Paramedic here.
Was driving with my partner and patient in the back. Patient was fine. Patient's skeezy boyfriend was riding in the front with me and apparently saw a golden opportunity to ask a question that had obviously been on his mind for some time.
Him: So when cats and dogs eat grass, that means they have cancer, right?
Me: Ummm. No. No it does not.
Made for an awkwardly silent ride the rest of the way.
Leohond15 ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 03:27:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, wtf? And really why did he even assume a paramedic would know whether or not animals have cancer?
Not a clue. I had no idea how to respond to that question. Maybe I should have given him my vet's number. Save your life? Sure, I got this. Does your cat have cancer? Way outta my pay grade.
strp ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 14:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe that's what his parents told him when they put the dog to sleep. :(
supapro ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:45:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's semi-common knowledge that dogs eat grass when they have worms, so I guess it's a pretty understandable logical jump to assume that worms means sick means cancer?
I think it's more generally that they do it when their stomach's upset, so they eat grass as a sort of emetic to purge whatever is making their stomach upset. Pretty neat instinct... except when it's the grass making their stomach upset in the first place... * stares at her own dog *
Mail540 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:12:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriends Bernese and jack Russell eat grass all the time but are perfectly healthy my puppy seems to be imitating them now
Honestly, I've never heard that...and I was a vet tech. Some dogs will eat grass because of an upset stomach, but also some animals just like eating grass even when they're fine. Animals are weird.
Not a fact. I have two very healthy dogs, ages 6 and 4.5. The younger one, I call her a cow on some walks. She just takes a few steps and grabs a mouthful of grass, few steps, grass. The older one does it occasionally, compared to her younger sister, but still like on 2-4 of their 7 weekly walks. They get poo and blood tested every year at their annuals and every result is in the normal range and they never throw up either! It's super weird, and we asked the vet about it the first few years. She just tells us now that we should keep an eye on them because it isn't great for them, but it doesn't seem to be indicating a bigger issue.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:48:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dog and my cat are the same way. They're healthy as can be but will not stop eating grass and other plants. I have to constantly keep an eye on them.
I know, that is what they told us the first couple years, so we kept trying to get them to stop. But we have a doggie door, so there is not controlling what they do when we're gone. And we eventually just gave up on trying to dissuading them on walks too.
I have a grazer, too! I usually try to keep her from eating grass from anyone's lawn but mine, since many of my neighbors either fertilize and/or treat their grass. It worries me that she might end up being poisoned by weed killer or whatever.
Sounds like my ex. Please don't tell me the patient's name was Rylee.
zangor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:01:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, barring the fact that there is already a very prominent porn star with this phonetic first name, this has got to be (spelled in this way) the most porn sounding name ever.
zangor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:43:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, sorry I somehow misread and thought you were the other person in the relationship. It's a good name, just in the context of porn it would be like "Oh yea, that's her name for sure."
For future reference, it's "bury the lede." Not trying to be a prick, but I had the same thought and was cheering for you as I read "bury the" and then "ahhh." Still a prick, though, eh? Sorry :/
dwjlien ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 12:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bury the lede
This is the US version, OP may be from the UK like me, we write bury the lead.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 12:21:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Whelpie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like a good idea?
PMunch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:06:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, you're right. I did this when I taught English in Germany too, penalized my students for misspellings or "at the weekend" like "errors" until one student politely suggested that maybe her version was the British version and maybe I wasn't as familiar with it as I am with the English version. Apparently I didn't learn all the US/UK differences, apologies!
her version was the British version and maybe I wasn't as familiar with it as I am with the English American version.
retepred ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:43:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? 'British' and 'English'?
That makes it look like you think American's speak 'English' whereas British speak 'British'?
Noooope.
'English' came from... England! And was around a long time before America raised their own flag.
TLDR; British speak English, Americans speak American English.
France speaks french (actually a few different types I think), French Canada speaks Canadian French!
I'm American and I use the term "British English". It would be silly to refer to my own language as American English, since 99% of the time, in the context of my conversations, that is already assumed.
I expect all English speaking countries follow suit. ;}
Bury the lede (US) and bury the lead (UK) mean to put the main point of the story somewhere other than the first paragraph (or sentence, for a story as short as this one).
It's used in journalism to describe when a writer mentions nonchalantly in the last paragraph that, for example, the person just nominated for Energy Secretary doesn't believe in renewable energy or global warming, or that the proposed commercial development that has been praised in the rest of the article will require an orphanage or school or historical site to be demolished and that City Council agreed to that.
"Lede" is an intentional respelling of "lead" to identify the use of the word as journalistic jargon. It's not particularly wrong for an American to spell it "lead."
Oglaf is a porn humor comic. If you'd clicked backwards in the archive instead of forward you'd quickly have found yourself in some very NSFW territory.
Milo359 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hooooooooly shit, thank you! I feel like an idiot. Good payoff though.
boom149 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 13:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousins have 3 cats, a brother and sister and their daughter. When we first found out that the sister cat was pregnant, my brother was like "what? Who could the father be? I thought they were indoor cats." I had to be like "well, there's an unfortunately eligible father indoors."
mardavi ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 12:27:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read veterinarian as vegetarian and was very confused for a while
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:03:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Inbreeding is actually only slightly statistically more likely to result in birth defects. It's really only when you have whole communities of creatures inbreeding or inbreeding for multiple generations that the genetic similarities in the parents start to really catch up with you. There's enough genetic differences between a brother and sister of genetically dissimilar parents to not make it too big of a problem even if it is really really gross.
She looks like a normal black cat. She is really weird, but I don't know if it's because of inbreeding or not. My husband said nobody was able to pet her for her first few years, and they only kept her because she was the last of the litter. She is very skittish, usually runs when you walk by her or stand over her. She has to come to you for pets or attention. Hates being picked up or held. She also has a habit of not using the litter box but it's been significantly better than it was.
This was the same conversation I had with my mom...this is also how I ended up with the inbred demon-spawn that is my maltese, Ted. Love him to death though; smartest small dog I've ever trained.
I read the last oart as vegetarian and was more confused than before i read it.
phobius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank god.
For a moment I thought you said "vegetarian"
"That really doesn't improve this.."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly off topic question, how hereditary is mental/emotional/hormonal/batshit crazy in cats?
I had, well technically my sister and bro in law had, but she chose me and I put in the effort to keep her alive, a very mentally unstable cat who eventually had to be put down because she utterly lost it when her kittens hit puberty and tried to kill me. My carer has fallen head over heals for her daughter. How likely is the daughter to have the same problems as her mother? We are saving to get her spayed, even the low income clinic is nearly beyond our means, but I'm insisting. We're also taking precautions to ensure her life and food supply are far more stable than my brother in law ever allowed for her mom. How worried do I need to be? Should I try to give away my (6 mo old, feral born orphan, bottle raised by me male) kitten to further decrease her stress?
marti141 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:07:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say most of a cats behavior is based on how they are raised. That being said they are cats and don't follow the book.
Not a doctor (yet) but an ER tec for ~2 years. Mom comes in with her baby plus two more older kids. Complains that the baby hasn't pooped in a while and wont stop crying. As I'm settling them in with one of the nurses, the baby is bawling, like opera singer lungs bawling. Suddenly mom whips out a white plastic shopping bag and sticks an end in the kids mouth, says "this is the only way she stops crying." Nurse and I share a look and immediately order and emergency x-ray on the kids stomach. Turns out she had ingested a good amount of these bags and it was blocking up in her stomach. Big deal, potentially life threatening. When we confront the mom about her baby feeding habits her only words of defense are "Well I checked all over the bag and I couldn't find anything that said 'non edible.'"
TLDR: Mom had been letting her baby teeth on plastic bags because she didn't know they weren't edible.
It's not exactly proving to be foolproof saying.. or is it!?
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:23:48 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My in-laws are foster parents and one of the kids they have is with them because his parents are dumber than a box of rocks. Rocks that are drunk. Drunk rocks that think it's a super idea to go swimming.
This sounds like something they would do. They were never abusive or malicious. Just ... unbelievably stupid, stupid people. So stupid that they consciously (as much as they can, maybe) decided to have another baby while the first two were already wards of the state.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:20:10 on February 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dumber than a box of rocks. Rocks that are drunk. Drunk rocks that think it's a super idea to go swimming.
I know I'm late, but I just wanted to tell you that I like your words. You have the best words.
UberUSB ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 13:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And, in the USA, that would lead to a successful lawsuit.
sharkbag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:18:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horrifying... Isn't there an unspoken rule that suggests eating plastic is a terrible idea?
Some people really should never EVER have kids or be responsible for a kids well-being - be it five seconds or 18+ years.
Dr_J_ND ยท 7498 points ยท Posted at 00:16:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That the 30+ cups of coffee he was drinking every day could possibly be the cause of his chief complaints of anxiety and insomnia. He said he was not willing to give this up or try decaf.
I used to weight over 450 lbs. To compensate for the constant lack of energy (because it all went to keeping me alive) I was drinking up to 6 sugar free Monsters a day (at the very least 3). And then I was scared when I started getting hard palpitations.
I'm down to 1 Monster a day now and weight 213 lbs so it's all good. But it was pretty sketchy for a while there. I'm also an ex heroin user.
I often ask myself the same thing. I recently had a very powerful epiphany when I realized I should be dead about 10 times over. I was pre-diabetic, had a 110 resting heart rate, drug use, drinking, the morbid obesity, atrocious diet, and on top of all that I smoked a pack a day (down to about 1 day-ish)
I always knew I was unhealthy, but my entire life - for some reason - I've always had an invincible mentality. Like shit happens to other people but that's not gonna happen to me because I'm special and unique (in a narcissistic, selfish way, not in the "I'm an indigo child", snowflake, safe space way), but I never realized until a few weeks just how close to death I really was. All it would have taken was one thing to go wrong and I truly believe I wouldn't have made it through. I was absolutely trashing my body and even years after the drugs I'm still suffering the consequences of it.
I stopped doing drugs. I no longer drink. I've lost about 245 pounds. Don't smoke anymore only thanks to vaping. Shit, I really have come a long way. haha.
Is there any evidence caffeine actually affects your heart?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:59:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Normal amounts? No real evidence of that. It momentarily raises blood pressure, but the claims that it stays high due to caffeine have been debunked AFAIK.
30+ cups a day? No way that amount of a substance causing hypertension pumping almost constantly through you wouldn't.
Can't belive it. I get liquid shits if I have more than 3 per day.
amrasmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for being muscular.
Menism ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 06:28:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle would make 2 pots of coffee before work and another pot at lunch. Every single day. On weekends depending on what he was doing would have 4-5 pots.
He recently had a heart attack and died on the spot.
Please be careful of caffeine consumption and watch your heart.
A friend of mine recently had a massive heart attack at the age of 41. He was amazed that the 15-20 cups of coffee he drank each day may have contributed to it. He was very, very lucky to survive. He gave up all caffeine during his recuperation. However, when I visited him over Christmas, he offered me (non decaf) coffee and poured himself one when I declined....
Urthor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:36 on February 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this health warning, I'll be decreasing my consumption from 1 a week to maybe a couple a year
I drink at most 6-7 cups in a day, but usually 2-3. But currently none because I haven't bothered buying more coffee. I'm impressed... worried? Yeah, worried.
puterTDI ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:56:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink 1 8 oz fully caffeinated and 2 8 oz 50/50 caffeinated and decaf.
I'm a healthy engineer (student)...I run off Ice Cream, Pizza, middle eastern/Indian food, and the idea in my head. Thus my kidneys are protected...just not my giant belly
As an engineer, I am sure you understand that the optimum situation is for every part of a machine to fail at precisely the same time. To die with healthy kidneys would simply be a waste.
Quite so good sir! Though, one could purpose the kidneys to work in a different human machine, though, since they are spares that have been salvaged, they don't come with a users manual (which we make comically difficult anyways), so I wouldn't offer a warranty on my kidneys.
But then again, it is the time-honored tradition of countless generations of engineers to stay up pulling all-nighters to finish some useless assignment that we procrastinated on. This would not be possible without the magical Arabic coffee bean, and thus, without coffee, we can deduce that the civilization built by engineers, called silicon valley and STEM departments at universities, would crumble to dust.
Yeah, the rather glaring lack of access panels for spare parts removal and installation is, in my mind, the single best argument against Intelligent Design. Design? Maybe. Intelligent? My ass.
flj7 ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 02:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, cutting caffeine was the first thing I considered when I started having sleep problems.
[deleted] ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 05:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, cutting caffeine was the first thing I considered when I started having sleep problems.
Well, if you use it right it can actually help with sleep problems. Simply stop your caffeine input after midday and your caffeine-dependant brain should issue a sleep command in time for the evening.
It's especially interesting when you stop the intake altogether. You basically can't stay awake for more than 14 hours or so, which means sooner or later you start waking up at 3 am. Wouldn't recommend cold turkey though. Headaches.
When I once tried quitting caffeine cold turkey and after less than 24 hours I was already in hell. It was the worst headache I had ever experienced in my life. It felt the way people with intense migraines sometimes describe.
After a while of sheer agony where I could barely move from this headache, I had to drag myself to the bathroom to vomit. I don't think I needed to vomit but more like my body had no idea what to do so it was trying everything it knew.
(and I'm not exaggerating on bit... my base line is that I never get headaches usually, am generally healthy... especially at the time I was very fit and healthy)
Luckily I had that day off, but unluckily there just so happened to be NO caffeine at all in the house. I had to beg my husband to bring me a soda (as in, come home from work to bring it to me). The soda stopped the headache pretty quickly but then I felt like I was in a vaguely disassociated from my own body/life moment where everything felt dampened and hazy.
My conclusion is that caffeine withdrawal is hell and I never want to do it again.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:00:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get headaches all the time. I'm used to it. I live off excedrin migraine.
The one I had from slamming the brakes on my coffee intake when we were out one morning after months straight of at least 8 cups before 3pm was far and above the worst headache I have ever experienced. Nothing worked. No amount of medicine. Nothing. There was a point I was laying there bedridden and the thought of shooting myself in the head went from a metaphorical thought to a possible real solution to the pain.
I don't know why you're getting so much flack for this. When I quit coffee I had the worst migraines in my life. Certain people are more sensitive to caffeine depending on their genes. Some people are insensitive so they don't get withdrawals while for others the withdrawals are brutal.
It was getting weird how irrational and aggressive some of these other commenters were getting about this... as if my having had a bad experience was somehow a grave offense to them. They must suffer greatly during cold and flu seasons when everyone around them is sick in different ways.
Hun... It sounds like you actually did have a migraine that time. Especially the throwing up and haze afterwards once it finally calmed down.
Lack of caffeine could have induced it with the soda caffine helping to relieve it.
Something to keep in mind for the future (say if the soda doesn't work next time , you know not to panic)
I'm not even sure what to say to this. I drink 5-10 cups of coffee every time I go to work and 2 or 3 when I wake up. Recently I went back home and didn't drink any coffee for 2 weeks, and didn't feel any different, maybe slightly more tired. I know everything varies from person to person but having such a intense withdrawal from caffeine is crazy, and makes me think something else might be going on.
I have no idea, but it never happened again (and nothing like it happened before then either). It was just a normal day, with the exception that I stopped drinking any coffee or soda.
I drink a lot of water and lift heavy ass weights if you want to call that exercise
afakefox ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:41:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you grossly over dramatized not having caffeine for less than 24 hours (or caffeine "withdrawal" entirely). Listen, I've been a heroin addict and would still go to the store to get my own medicine and shit. Calling your husband home from work to bring you a fucking soda, smdh
I didn't dramatize a thing about it, it was the most pain I've ever experienced, this happened to me. I get that reddit has a lot of people who like to tell tall tales for fun, but this is not one of them. It's a little disturbing how everyone is seemingly genuinely pissed off that they think I'm lying about a horrible experience I had that has nothing to do with them... as if not believing this happened to me is some massively important opinion they need to share. It doesn't change what happened.
Likewise, I'm not looking for pity, it was to serve as a warning that this happened and maybe be careful going cold turkey on caffeine. Also, no, I feel no shame in having had to ask for help relieving the pain I was in, it's called an emergency and that's why my spouse and I are married, because we would fucking pick up from work and go help if the other needed help. This was not a "oh, boo hoo, I feel parched~" princess situation, this was I laid in anguish for several hours and tried other things before calling for help. If the soda hadn't worked I would have been asking him to take me to the hospital.
My husband and I both get really bad headaches after 1/2 a day or so without caffeine. It's sort of like a band of pressure that's squeezing both inward and outward simultaneously. It's right up there, maybe just below a migraine. I get cranky, and lights hurt more too. There are what? 19 of us, at least, who understand your pain, if it's any comfort.
I had the same reaction to quitting cofee cold turkey. I was fainting, sleeping 17 hours and barely moved from headache.
It's nice that you quit heroin but that doesn't make you ultimate arbiter in what is and what is not valid withdrawal. Get over yourself and stop self-pitying.
Timeyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The soda stopped the headache pretty quickly but then I felt like I was in a vaguely disassociated from my own body/life moment where everything felt dampened and hazy.
Bruh did you actually manage to get high off soda?
Fuck you dude, just because your body react in a certain way to certain substances doesn't mean that everyone does. And if she reacts badly that doesn't mean she's weak.
Goddamit, how can people be so inconsiderate and pathethic in theirt attempts to be cool?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This story is straight bullshit. Caffeine withdrawals don't hit this hard, you're either a hypochondriac or a lying attention whore - probably the latter.
You're blatantly wrong, I slept 17 hours every night after going cold turkey from having 10 cups a day and barely moved from headache. Several years ago it was discovered that caffeine develops real physical addiction, if you drink enough cofee your body will fuck you up if it doesn't get its fix.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
huh. I just realized I ran out of coffee a few days ago and have been having the hardest time sleeping....
Haizan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I don't drink coffee. I'll fuck up my sleep schedule myself, tyvm.
Tommix11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink a lot of coffee but sometimes I don't feel like drinking more than one cup a day. I don't get headaches, in my teenage years though I got headaches when I did not drink coffee.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean "you can't stay awake for more than 14 hours" ??
That sounds terrible.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean "you can't stay awake for more than 14 hours" ?? That sounds terrible.
It's my personal reaction to caffeine withdrawal, so it may differ for other people and of course it may be partially a placebo effect, but when I stop my rather high caffeine input, that tends to screw up my sleep cycle. Normally humans have circadian cycle with with an average of 24.2 hours. (i.e. if there's no external clock/sunlight that's how long your days will be) and that also roughly what I experience. Hence when I don't have to get up at a set time, I'll to go to bed later and later. Without caffeine it's the opposite. 22 hours or so in my experience.
Given that the body adapts caffeine very quickly (within a week or so for me) isn't actually problematic. You just need to force yourself not go to be in the early afternoon for a few days. So you can stay awake longer. It just takes some effort.
Currently struggling staying awake more than 12-14 hours. Needing to nap for thirty minutes in the evening, waking up feeling like death and staying awake for another 2-4 to make sure I don't screw up my sleep.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to test your blood on any deficiencies.
Due for a blood test soon anyway, was going to bring up how tired I am ^
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually fighting in the other direction, my natural circadian cycle was measured when I was in my late teens and having behavioral and sleep issues and it was over 25 hours.
I wonder if drinking enough caffeine and quitting would give me some relief by shortening that to 24h instead of being eternally tired and fighting every morning as it feels I'm getting up earlier and earlier by just getting up at the same time.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually fighting in the other direction, my natural circadian cycle was measured when I was in my late teens and having behavioral and sleep issues and it was over 25 hours.
Well, as far as I've read it's normal for people in industrialized countries to have these kinds of problem. It's just that for most the symptoms are much weaker than for you. Abundance of artificial light messes with our brain. So on the off-chance that this hasn't been told to you a hundred times: try avoiding bright light, especially when it has a blue component (i.e. is cold) in the evening. Hence phones, computers are generally advised against and if you use them you might want to at least decrease brightness and chance the colour temperature (there are apps for that).
Apart from that I wouldn't recommend to seek out caffeine withdrawal. It tends to give you headaches. Caffeine might help with getting up, though. E.g. I sometimes take a pill while still in bed. Probably not healthy, but it's a rather good motivation to get up when it's physically impossible to continue sleeping.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I know, I meant it more tongue in cheek as I thought it was interesting your withdrawal had that effect on you. I keep myself to two large coffees a day to get through it and yes, I've got f.lux installed as well to make my screens a bit more reddish after sunset and I try not to use it in the evenings too much.
But still, the times I've been able to fall asleep before 1am last year I could probably count on 2 hands. The amount of times I was able to show up at work well before 9am instead of near the "almost too late" deadline, same :)
This 9 to 5 life isn't healthy for everyone I guess, it's an eternal jet laggy feeling with just abuot 5 to 6 hours of sleep in just because I'm always awake for about 18 hours after waking up as per standard. I've been getting it under control a little bit with prescribed melatonin tablets for the evenings to activate that night brain mode.
What do you mean 25h? As in you get tired, say 20 minutes earlier each progressive day?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, 1 hour later.
Basically it means I'm always struggling to fall asleep at a reasonable time and it feels like every morning the alarm for work is set one hour earlier, which leads to being exhausted by Friday due being forced to sleep before tired and getting up before well rested all week long.
Melatonin may help? Obviously with advice from your doctor and taken as instructed. But i believe its mechanism of action is via circadian rhythm interference.
After I quit cofee cold turkey, going from 10 cups a day to 0 nI slept 17 hours every night for a dew days and barely stood up. Caffeine can develop real, legit physical addiction.
flj7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully I didn't try to quit cold turkey. I'm not a coffee drinker, which I think helped, as I don't rely on caffeine to function in the mornings. It was more my soda consumption that was the issue. I just lowered my intake every few days. It's improved both my sleep and my general health, since soda is terrible for you.
olosh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. If you drink more coffee you will come up with better solutions to the sleeplessness problem.
I used to give decaf coffee so much crap. Like, why drink coffee at all if you aren't drinking it for the caffeine?
Well, 10 years later and enjoying the taste of coffee, I have 1 regular in the morning followed by 1-2 decafs throughout the day.
Even my in-laws look at me funny when I ask if they have decaf when I want a coffee after dinner.
Honestly, idk of its just because I haven't had good decaf, but how they get rid of the caffeine makes it taste way worse than a regular of the same standard in my experience. Especially with crap coffee, but even with better coffees is still true
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you're used to the bitter goodness of caffeine and your taste buds miss it when it's not there.
In my experience this will always be true, but less so for espresso drinks. If you really want regular coffee try a decaf americano, almost as good as the real thing.
I'm 27 and just made the switch to afternoon decaf about a week ago. Same thing, 1 cup of regular coffee (or a latte or w/e) in the AM, then the rest of the day it's decaf. It has been great so far, wish I would have done it sooner.
claryn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There have been studies that show just the smell and taste of coffee can give you a kick and wake you up even if it's decaf, if you've been a regular caffeinated coffee drinker. Like a Pavlov reaction.
Total Pavlov. Usually it's the warmth and taste that I need but the caffeine on top of my odd work hours help.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some do drink decaf for the caffiene because they're very sensitive to the tiny amount of caffeine that is in decaf.
Mupyeah ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 04:53:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way I can think of that made it possible for him to drink that much is with one of those cup holder hats that also brewed the coffee. How the fuck do you drink that much of anything?!
[deleted] ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 04:58:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah I see that you have never had a terrible office job with free coffee
Mupyeah ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 05:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So terrible customer service job with mediocre coffee?
Mupyeah ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 05:22:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The job is pretty good all things considered. It is by far the highest-paying costumer-service job I have had, the benefits are amazing for hourly employees, holiday pay, approved overtime if I need it (and I do). I am also the one running the shift, so I never do anything I don't want to. The annoying people that I had to deal with for hours on end while serving and praying they tipped me? I don't care anymore. I get paid either way, and if they are annoying, I don't deal with them for very long. All of that with free lunch and coffee and tuition reimbursement.
Wiztim ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:26:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto. Sweet benefits for service job and don't forget the free lb whole bean
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While that isn't anything to sneeze at since that is $14 a week in product for every employee, it just doesn't really matter to me.
Ive def thought of trying out Starbucks if only for the benefits.
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really easy. I filled out one application and it got sent to every Starbucks in a 25 mile radius.
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Well good then!
plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/starbucks <--- employee sub that anyone can see/comment in
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I thank you for the information, that sounds like a bad idea.
plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:39 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fair enough. take care
Dr_J_ND ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. That's what he said. He worked in a shop and just would brew pot after pot and drink it all for himself at work. Said he would do 4-5 full pots most days while working.
He could be Doctor Ooblek from RWBY. Just running around at high speeds with a perpetually full coffee thermos.
Kehndy12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought my ~10 cups of peppermint tea a day is a lot.
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it still is. I can barely get my 4 cups of tea down.
Arkanial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink about 1-2 gallons of tap water a day(so many bathroom breaks) just cause I love the taste and how refreshing it feels. I really doubt someone could do a similar amount of coffee. Although there is a chance I'm just being a huge bitch that can't handle caffeine.
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this isn't really making sense to me.. Assuming this guy was having an actual cup of coffee (as in the volume) and having 30+ that's two gallons of coffee. Caffeine-wise he's not even halfway to LD50, but how do you injest two gallons of anything?
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty close to the LD50 of water, but other things might be different since they have electrolytes.
"Of course I've been up all night! Not because of caffeine, it was insomnia. I couldn't stop thinking about coffee."
s__n ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:46:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow I've lost my tolerance for caffeine as I've gotten older[*]. In college I'd drink probably 48oz of very black tea each day, but by the time I was 30 I'd cut back to 32oz/day. I ended up going to my PCP because I was feeling jittery with occasional muscle twitches and some random anxiety.
After some lab work he finally told me to try cutting out the caffeine. Guess what... problem solved! I feel like an idiot wasting his time, especially since I've always had the occasional panic attack and thought I knew what they felt like (the caffeine ones are different, but not that much). I can still have the occasional heavy caffeine day, but just not too many days in a row.
* Apparently it runs in my family, b/c my aunt can't tolerate caffeine at all. My dad, however, still drinks a pot of coffee a day. ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
My mother was a ridiculous caffeine/coffee addict who would drink multiple pots of coffee every day. When she woke up after having brain surgery, she made a huge stink about how badly she needed coffee. After arguing with a nurse for a while, finally one of the aids just gives in and brings her a cup of coffee. My mom takes one sip, spits it out and announces that decaf just isn't real coffee. The nurse tried to explain she shouldn't have caffeine but my mother, who was laying in a hospital bed with a freshly stitched 8 inch incision on the back of her head, was insistent that she had a headache strictly because of caffeine withdrawals. They brought in her surgeon to try to talk sense into her, but eventually he caved.
Coffee addiction is a real and serious thing, it really is best to treat it like you would other addictive substances. Pick a set amount, have that amount, never go over. Otherwise you risk increasing your tolerance more and more. Sure I probably COULD drink 10 cups of coffee a day, but it'd just make me feel like shit, so why go over my normal amount.
let's round down and say 100 mg of caffeine per cup. that's a minimum of 3k mg of caffeine a day.
that is fucking insane. but i also wonder if that kind of consumption of a stimulant was masking an underlying condition. maybe this man beat mononucleosis.
Blurgas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mother of a friend is a doctor. She's had an unfathomable number of truckers that don't realize their heart problems/chest pains/etc are caused by the ungodly amount of RedBull/Monster and/or NoDoz they'd been taking.
Fuck, at this point 1 cup of coffee gives me panic attacks.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. You gotta have a stomach of steel for that as well. I think I hit 20 cups once pulling an all nighter in high school for science fair. Got to school to turn in my project before the vomiting and generalized feeling like death kicked in and I went home. Used to get crazy amounts of extra shots of espresso in drinks in college but similar gut issues generally occurred. And then there's the other end of the gut as well...
Kind of laughing that each of my examples involved drinking so much for the purpose of staying up and this guy is still like "Man I can't sleep but nope drinking my 30 cups still." Must piss forever as well.
Pretty sure a friend of mine can drink this much. He'll drink a large coffee from DD and then go straight to sleep afterwards. He is a fucking mutant and caffeine is the mutagen.
My dad use to measure his coffee consumption in pots per day. Started getting terrible migraines and for a couple years he thought it was an allergy to chocolate. My mother surreptitiously decaffeinated him. He wanted to be irritated, but the migraines had stopped, and then he found he could have chocolate again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since he was an insomniac, that'd mean he'd be up like 20-24 hours, probably 24, more like, drinking coffee. That's 1.25 cups of coffee per hour, every hour of the day. He'd probably have other things to do in life, as well, and perhaps he did get some sleep, so the density of cups of coffee goes up. That's a shit load of coffee.
If I drink more than 3 cups in 1 day I'll not only paint the toilet but my stomach will hurt and I'll never get to sleep without lots of alcohol or weed or both.
but THIRTY cups in one day?! that's almost impressive
30+ cups? Lets say you sleep 8 hours. Thats 16 hours of fresh pots and chuggin' - Two cups per hour and the occasional third after every meal. Will fuck you up physically and mentally. RIP guts. Whats the daily maximum you should drink, you ask? 4 (it is individual and some people should drink less)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you forced to do something like prescribe anti-anxiety (or whatever the class is called) drugs for somebody like this? I mean, how can you justify billing an insurance company for anything beyond counseling when the patient flat out refuses to attempt behavior modification in such a ridiculous situation?
BeastM8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just curious, isn't instantly switching to decaf detrimental to the patient as 'tis basically going cold turkey for an addiction? Won't there be withdrawal symptoms?
Yaaa. Think your exaggerating. Obviously. No one is drinking 30 cups a day. Your diagnosis is highly questionable to begin with. And now your throwing it all over bye internet. I think the questionable person here is you. And god forbid,if your still practicing medicine. Try to be a bit more attentive to real medical problems with your pattience. And try to be a tad more professional as well.
My brother has issues sleeping. I told him it's probably the 3-4 pots of coffee a day. He got pissed called me a control freak and walked off... Whatever. I'll make sure his tombstone is shaped like a coffee mug.
My dad drinks POTS of coffee, almost no water, has outrageous heartburn all the time, can't sleep at night without drinking a 6 pack of beer, and totally refuses to hear reason on the subject.
(And eats like garbage while complaining about how heavy he is, and generally annoys me, which I consider his greatest health risk.)
Voltaire was rumored to drink over 50 cups per day. But Voltaire also didn't hold down an office job so he prolly wasn't as worried sleeping at 5pm and waking up at 3 in the morning.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Went to see a urologist for a thing and we were talking and he told me about people coming in complaining about having to urinate a lot or even soiling themselves at times. He'd ask about their caffeine intake and that was 9/10 the problem. He tells them to cut it out or down by a fair bit to solve the problem but they are they need it and won't part with it...
My MIL is always trying to push caffeine on me past lunchtime, yet complains that she wakes up at night for hours. One day when she offered me a post supper coffee saying the caffeine is good for you, I just said maybe that's what's keeping you awake at night? No way! Not caffeine! At least she's stopped pushing it.
It always shocks me that people who do this don't drop dead from heart attacks before seeing a doctor. The heart is an amazing machine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought having 4+ a day was a serious problem. 30 is insane...I feel truly sorry for him, it's a drug addiction
savershin ยท 810 points ยท Posted at 03:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This will be a long story:
When I was an Internal Medicine resident I came across a very nice 50 year-old Dominican lady, she was well mannered but one could tell she was not the sharpest tool in the shed. As I was prepping her chart for our first visit, I noticed that she'd been seen by every single digestive disease MD in our hospital system. Not only that, she'd had EVERY SINGLE PROCEDURE IN THE BOOK. Ranging from endoscopies up both holes and culminating in an exploratory laparotomy (you're opened up to basically look inside you when we have no clue what's going on). All of this because for years she had one single complaint, she reported severe gnawing pain in her stomach. At this point I should mention that she was spanish speaking only. Not only that she had a very heavy dominican accent, and I was the first hispanic doctor to ever see her. My first language is spanish and even I had difficulty understanding her. So she comes in and after exchanging some first time pleasentries I politely ask her how she's doing. Sure enough although she was smiling and said she felt well she pointed at her belly and said "it" was biting again, and asked for the cream to kill "it". At this point I got intrigued. Her medication list only mentioned a cream used for herpes breakthroughs. The previous fellow only mentioned in his note that in every single visit she only asked for the cream and nithing else. When I asked what she meant by the biting and what she intended to do with the cream, she very calmly tells me she intended to stick the cream up her ass in order to kill the bird living inside her. After delving more deeply into her story, it turns out she didn't have a medical condition. Ever since she was a little girl, she believed tahat after eating whole quail egg, the bird had spawned inside her and gnawed away in her insides whenever she was very hungry. After a short visit to psych, she was diagnosed with a somatic type delusional disorder. No amount of medication or psychotherapy will cure her, but she was still a fully functional mother of 2 who payed her taxes and had to part-time jobs. I reached out to every digestive disease doctor in out hospital system once more, to make sure she never receives an inappropriate invasive intervention. I've been following her now for three years and she's happy as one can be, considering she has a bird living inside her..
tldr: lady complains of "pain" in her belly, worst case of lost in translation ensues, gets very invasive medical procedures, turns out she's just cuckoo
phearlez ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 17:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
turns out she's just cuckoo
If any of her appointments had been at the top of the hour this would have been diagnosed a lot quicker (though I guess if she's not yet in a gown the sound could be a little muffled)
Valdrax ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:10:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This will be a long story: When I was an Internal Medicine resident I came across a very nice 50 year-old Dominican lady, she was well mannered but one could tell she was not the sharpest tool in the shed.
As I was prepping her chart for our first visit, I noticed that she'd been seen by every single digestive disease MD in our hospital system. Not only that, she'd had EVERY SINGLE PROCEDURE IN THE BOOK, ranging from endoscopies up both holes and culminating in an exploratory laparotomy (you're opened up to basically look inside you when we have no clue what's going on). All of this because for years she had one single complaint, she reported severe gnawing pain in her stomach.
At this point I should mention that she was Spanish speaking only. Not only that she had a very heavy Dominican accent, and I was the first Hispanic doctor to ever see her. My first language is Spanish and even I had difficulty understanding her.
So she comes in and after exchanging some first time pleasantries, I politely ask her how she's doing. Sure enough, although she was smiling and said she felt well she pointed at her belly and said "it" was biting again, and asked for the cream to kill "it". At this point I got intrigued. Her medication list only mentioned a cream used for herpes breakthroughs. The previous fellow only mentioned in his note that in every single visit she only asked for the cream and nothing else. When I asked what she meant by the biting and what she intended to do with the cream, she very calmly tells me she intended to stick the cream up her ass in order to kill the bird living inside her.
After delving more deeply into her story, it turns out she didn't have a medical condition. Ever since she was a little girl, she believed that after eating whole quail egg, the bird had spawned inside her and gnawed away in her insides whenever she was very hungry. After a short visit to psych, she was diagnosed with a somatic type delusional disorder. No amount of medication or psychotherapy will cure her, but she was still a fully functional mother of 2 who payed her taxes and had two part-time jobs. I reached out to every digestive disease doctor in out hospital system once more, to make sure she never receives an inappropriate invasive intervention. I've been following her now for three years and she's happy as one can be, considering she has a bird living inside her...
TL;DR: lady complains of "pain" in her belly, worst case of lost in translation ensues, gets very invasive medical procedures, turns out she's just cuckoo
Delusional disorders are notorious among psychiatric illnesses as some of the diseases most resistant to treatment, whether via medication, therapy, or otherwise.
We had a psych patient at my hospital that had a similar delusion, except she inserted a chicken into her vagina so it would "bake" into a baby. They did this whole song-and-dance when they removed the chicken parts, and had a baby doll they said was her baby. They said she had to be given away, and that she can have no more babies. From what I understand, it worked for a while, but I haven't kept in touch with her condition.
Unfortunately, 50% of medicine comes from a patient's self-reporting or subjective findings. Even with a proper medical translator, I can see doctors performing invasive procedures.
While in dental school my friend pulled out several bombed out (technical term) teeth on a adult male. After the procedure was finished and post-op instructions we given, the man asked, "So when should I expect my new teeth to grow in?" He was serious.
Jatrap ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me three reads to realize that "bombed out" was a bad thing. I was picturing like solid gold teeth with little diamond studs.
Should only be a couple years after your reincarnation, sir.
ufonyx ยท 266 points ยท Posted at 03:58:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My S.O. is a med student. He helped to diagnose a 40 year old woman who finally sought out a doctor after having open, festering wounds on her entire torso for over a year. The open wounds only appeared after more than a year of painful, visible lumps on her breasts. She had never sought treatment prior to this.
S.O. had to inform her that her entire body was riddled with cancer, that there was no treatment to help her, and that she would be dead very soon.
Her sister, who was there the entire time, began loudly proclaiming what a shame it was that nothing could ever have been done, and that hopefully someday we would be able to detect cancer sooner. S.O. watched the doctor explain that pretty much any other woman in the country would have gotten effective treatment at the first sign of the lumps.
This was DURING breast cancer awareness month.
nemo_sum ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 14:21:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was a sad story up until "nothing could ever have been done" and then it's a hard left turn into passing WTF.
ufonyx ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 14:52:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think the sister probably discouraged her from going to the doctor in the first place, and was trying to assuage her own guilt...
Then again, there are groups of people that isolate themselves from the rest of society. Maybe she really didn't know anything about the state of medicine!
Surely the 40 year old woman had been told at some point in her life that lumps on breasts need to be checked out? I cannot believe that it never once crossed her mind. Damn.
ufonyx ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 14:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Despite what the sister said, I imagine they both knew about it, and were just in denial (and possibly uninsured). I had a neighbor who refused to go to doctors for anything at all - a persistent cough, throwing our her back, debilitating migraines - all out of fear that they'd say it was cancer. In her mind, if she didn't give anyone the opportunity to diagnose her, then she wouldn't get it.
That's really, really sad. I'm so glad I live in a country with free healthcare - it just boggles the mind that people are allowed to die in rich countries like America when they could be saved because they don't have insurance. Utter insanity.
balasurr ยท 261 points ยท Posted at 02:53:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a patient who was concerned because she was still lactating, despite the fact that she stopped breastfeeding her twins two years ago. She said: "sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and find my husband sucking on the breasts. He says he's trying to drain the milk for me"
I had to explain to her that breastfeeding her husband will lead to continued Lactation....
Rikolas ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 11:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Husband had been getting away with his weird kink for 2 years, impressive!
I worked at a vet clinic when I was in high school. One day a vet came out of an exam room and asked me how to tell whether a puppy was a girl or a boy. Thinking it was a joke or a trick question, I said "You flip them over and look, right?" The vet sighed and walked away.
Apparently this client who fancied herself a breeder (multiple litters at this point, expensive breed) had asked dead seriously how you tell if a puppy is a boy or a girl.
We thought our cat was a girl for over a year and when we took him to the vet to ask about sterilization the vet gave us a wierd look and told us that mrs. kitty was a mr. kitty even though he had nipples.
You would be surprised. My cat had the tiniest balls ever when he was little (6-8 months) I suspect they would have grown a bit more but he didn't had the chance. Chopped them off. Still there have been quite a number of cats who's balls are the size of a nut.
When we got our first (male) kitten, I was enamored with it and spent hours watching it, petting it, checking its little paws, ears etc.
As I was petting his belly, I felt a few bumps. I pushed the silky fur away to see what these are. Terrified, I screamed at bf: OMG, come here, Kitty has a rash! He got there, saw the pink bumps on his belly and started laughing: Those are nipples!
I never had cats growing up, this was my first. Somehow I never put the fact that humans, apes etc both sexes have nipples, in relation to other mammals.
Wait, really? I know male humans have nipples (obviously) but I didn't know male dogs had nipples. I've had 3 dogs, 2 of them male and I never noticed.
UnMajstr ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 09:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most male mammals have, but few don't.
Fun fact: Male horses don't have nipples. One of the reasons why some ancient tribes saw them as a super masculine animals and believed they represent masculinity.
Piorn ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 12:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, they are tiny, but they are there. Mammals, as a general rule, start development as female and sex is later determined and development of secondary sex characteristics end. All mammals have a mammary tract and both sexes will have nipples. If you've ever found a "skin tag" on your dog's belly, you found his nipple.
And to be vey fair, dog and cat nipples are small, even in females unless they've had a litter. My spayed female dog has tiny nipples but a bitch that has had a litter will usually have large, distended nipples.
A few years ago I adopted a cat from a rather shady rescue center. I got him home and put him in my bedroom and closed the door to keep my other cat out until I could start doing the introductions.
He's flopped out on my bed, looking around, and realized one eye is squinting slightly. Great, an eye infection, what else could possibly go wrong with this cat? I'm petting him and notice on his belly a red spot. Lovely, he has fleas or something. At this point I'm thinking of calling the shelter back and bitching that the cat is not healthy. I noticed he has a second red spot directly opposite of the first one. I looked at this for a moment, excused myself, went to Google, and typed in male cat nipples.
Now, I knew on some level that males have nipples. I'm male and I have a pair of my own. It never occurred to me that a male animal would have them. As it turns out, the fur on his lower belly was thin, so his nipples were visible.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 06:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have nipples? What type of helicopter did he identify as?
You can also tell when the dog wears a button up shirt or sweater. If the sweater's buttons are on the left, the dog is female. If the buttons are on the right, the dog is male.
Liberteez ยท 235 points ยท Posted at 05:53:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which side of the dog is left again?
inthyface ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 06:42:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very young (17-21 day old--young weaning age) white mice can be difficult to determine sex.
ccm596 ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 04:34:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems like you're not around dogs much? The primary way is the same as a human. Male dogs have visible penises, while female dogs--it's a little harder to see their vaginas, but they don't have penises. If someone had been around dogs as much as a breeder would, or even just a dog owner, it'd be as easy to tell what gender a dog is as it would if they had pulled down the vet's pants to see which they were.
Cats are actually rather difficult to tell for the average person! I didn't realize this until I took home a kitten off the street and had to look up how to tell. Then I took it to the vet and turns out I still had it wrong!
Actually with new born kittens, that are as big as mice, it is not that easy. They all have a furry bump, and that's it. Had a kitten litter of three, and needed to re - sex one of them after a week.
We caught a quartet of kittens out of our neighbors back yard (they were using a hollow metal pole that was lying on the ground as their hiding spot, a hand on each end solved the issue). Initially we thought they were all boys, but after a few weeks of raising them I was giving them all baths and went to inform mom that either Apollo and Keiran has a serious medical condition, or they were girls, cause unlike Kiho and Simon they didn't have balls.
My housemate brought home a kitten that everyone, even the vet, determined was female. As it grew though, I kept feeling like it was a boy. His face was somehow distinctly masculine. Sure enough when my housemate took him to get spayed, they stumbled upon his undescended testicles instead. Still kept the name Ophelia though. Even the vets get it wrong sometimes!
Cats are easy, especially as babies. Boy rear ends look like this :
Girl rear ends look like this ;
You can literally see the SLIT in a girl.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... even with a "fixed" one, either you'd see a little penis, or you wouldn't! Maybe it's that I've grown up with cats that like 360 cuddles, so you end up with their botties in your face, but I mean... how couldn't you?
It's just that it's very well hidden on a cat! It doesn't hang down like a male dog and it's not close to the belly like a dog either. As a kid I only had male cats and always wondered where it was hiding haha! Now I have female cats and I've since realized there is a difference but once again, it's very subtle. This is especially true for cats with medium or longer fur.
I adopted a pair of kittens out of my backyard. One of the brothers had very obvious testicles, so we assumed the other one was a girl. Took them to the vet, were told he was a boy, took him to a second vet later and that vet thought he was a girl for a minute before we told him it was a boy. The vet poked him in the nuts and they popped right out, but they can definitely be subtle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've looked it up, and it does look more complicated than I imagined. It's quite obvious on dogs, though.
I usually have good confidence about the gender of a cat or dog just by looking at it, seeing how it acts and moves, and just how it looks. I don't know. I feel like I'm often right about it. It's like I see a dimorphism as pronounced as the human one, but in these creatures, as well. I've always been aorund animals, though, so maybe that's it?
whittiez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:04:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes it's hard to tell with longhaired cats though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just brush it to the side? I mean, they have to be able to get it out for weeing and mating, purely biologically, so it shouldn't be too hard.
Cats have their penises tucked away and have a very minimal sheath. Which is fine, because the tom here was unused to being pet and I happened to find the spot on the back of his neck he really likes...and he took it as an indication that my arm was his to hump with his horrible little pointy dick.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read my replies to the other comments. I know. I've looked it up. Geez! Why so passionate about cat dick?!
Truth! Until I went to vet tech school, I had no idea how to figure out if a cat was a boy or girl, especially if they were wee babies. Now I judge by perianal length and can even spot testes in neonates. And even then, there are some kittens with ambiguous genitals.
ccm596 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just looked at my female Pomeranian, barely even a line. But no red rocket
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it seems cats are fairly subtle.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it's a female spotted hyena, which has a pseudo-penis which it also gives birth out of. Fe male for the win, yo!
Things aren't always as black and white as they seem :p
ccm596 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, fair enough. I think its safe to say that's not what the breeder in the top comment is breeding though :P
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prob'ly not, otherwise the questions would have been all kinds of hilarious hahaha
Did you know there is a master profession that sexes chickens? It's difficult to determine whether a chick is a boy or a girl due to the size of their corresponding parts, which is important because males are sent to be used for their meat and females are sent to eggs/breeding. Masters take on apprentices and set them up with two chutes. The apprentice looks at the chick's nether regions and sends it down either the boy or girl chute, then the master tells them whether they were correct. Slowly, they learn the ability to quickly and accurately determine which sex a chicken is.
I know some people that think that size determines if its a boy or girl. Had a girl puppy with some very...large privates. My mother insisted that she was a boy because 'it's too big to be a girl'. I've met more people than I can count on one hand that think that. It's sad.
Have a read on r/justnomil to see the number of people who believe they can tell the gender of a human baby from the sex position used or cravings the mum is having
Dekronos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife was the same with our dog
say592 ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 05:49:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dog breeder is a bullshit job. Anyone can leave two dogs alone together and let them fuck. Anyone who calls themselves a breeder and doesn't have other credentials (history showing dogs, recognition and reputation in their breed's club, access to desirable lineage, etc) is just that, someone who occasionally watches their dogs fuck.
I mean, while I do understand the sentiment, I think you're underestimating a bit how much it really takes to take proper care of multiple dogs at once. It's easy to let dogs fuck, but to have them fuck and still maintain them in a clean area, making sure each of them AND the resulting litter is well-fed and healthy? Seems like a bit of a different ballpark, especially with the larger breeds.
Then again, I say that as someone who has zero personal experience with breeding dogs, so take my comment for what you will.
~Blade
[deleted] ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 06:33:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's this old codger on /r/canada who signs all his posts. He signs them the same name as his username. It drives me fucking crazy everytime I see this. I hate him more than I've hated anybody ever.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I'm just trying to be polite, like I've been taught. I hoped it would help with the negativity on the internet. I'll try to do it less when you're around.
Regards,
LiquidSilver
PS: Some fora have an explicit rule against this. Posts aren't letters that take days to arrive. The speed of online communication is closer to that of a normal conversation and it should be treated as such.
In all seriousness, it's out of a lack of a reason to have separate accounts, really. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ No real reason in particular. We share a lot already.
Nah, those are just our screen names for online use, we like to stay relatively anonymous online. And we don't share a device, no, but the both of us see it as not that big a deal to sign our posts. And, hey, as a plus, it's a conversation starter for those who are curious, eh?
~Blade
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, not a troll, we've just got our own way of doing things. :P Everyone's different, I suppose. It's the internet, my chances of doing something that bothers someone is already pretty high even without the signature (and even without my tendency to joke and troll from time to time as well). And I apologize if it bugs you a bit, but, with the sheer size of reddit and how many users go on each day, it's fairly unlikely you'll see my comments overly often, to be entirely honest. We include small markings at the end of our messages, and we comment with the intent to discuss about the content of the message. Whether or not people pay attention to the content of our message and instead focus on the tiny signature at the bottom is a different matter, and I'd like to think that people who care enough about discussion will look at the content.
TL;DR
Sorry to have bothered you, but it's just the way we personally do things. And if we ever encounter each other again, hope it doesn't bug you that much.
Edit: slight formatting.
~Blade
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:31:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had second-hand experience with it. There is a lot to it. The paperwork, making sure the puppies and the big doggos are healthy, feeding them, making sure they're happy, getting them vaccinated... doggos are a lot of work.
Sure it's work to take care of living creatures. But that's all kind of the bare minimum of just living life. But doing all of that doesn't make up for 8 years of higher education. It may make you an expert at breed standards or something equally trivial, but not treating zoonotic disease, bacterial infections, or even vaccine schedules. Some of that stuff can certainly be learned on the internet, or at least the basics. But it's the attitude that comes with some breeders who think putting a boy dog and a girl dog together is a shortcut around an advanced degree. You know how Reddit is always rolling its collective eyes at, "As a mother..."? Vets do the same thing when someone says, "as a breeder..."
Preach!!!! I worked for this shitty private practice. The doctor and his girlfriend fancied themselves "breeders" of a beautiful Northern breed and they had a lot of "breeders" come to them for veterinary care. I heard so much bullshit about breeds not being tolerant to vaccines (Berners don't need to be vaccinated as often? And yet, bordetella ran rampant in their kennels and they had an outbreak of parvo AND lepto...) as well as other bullshit. All of this was influenced by their breeder friends. I started to hate breeders after working with them.
That's their point. Tons of people just buy two random (probably low-quality) purebreds and breed them/sell puppies for money with no sense of breeding ethics.
The term "breeder" should really imply someone who is very careful and selective about the lineages they are building so as to better define a particular breed. This usually goes in hand with showing, close ties to the breed association, high-quality animals etc like they said.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you have to watch them fuck to be a breeder? I'd probs give them some privacy for the bing bang
Edit: Before I sell their offspring.
Isoldael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a (hobbyist) snake breeder, I do watch until I see a succesful lock. After that I'll give them all the privacy they need, butknowing if they did the deed is quite important for breeding purposes. If the male doesn't feel like it for some reason, I might reintroduce them later, or perhaps use a different male.
And that's what this woman was. Purebred Pulis, just left them alone unfixed and called herself a breeder. I don't even know how the poor dogs even mated, because the idiot woman was too lazy to cord their hair properly so they were basically one giant tangle. They were fed and properly vaccinated, so there was nothing we could really do about it.
A coworker did exactly that: let the dogs fuck. I forget exactly what breed, but it was one of those annoying little rat dogs that was really popular about 15 years ago. She went to the pet store, bought two dogs, and let them fuck their yappy little brains out. I forgot how many litters she would up with before she realized she isn't selling as many as she thought she would, so she dropped them all off at the animal shelter.
My brother works as a vet tech. He told me they used to have a High Schooler working with them to since she was interested in being a vet.
She was on the phone with someone and as he walked into the room he heard the girl say "I don't know, let me ask". She then asked my brother "Is there any way we can make a girl dog into a boy dog?". My brother told her there wasn't. She then asked "what about the other way, boy into a girl?" Again he told her there wasn't.
The girl then got back on the phone and informed who ever she was talking to that she was sorry and unfortunately they didn't do animal gender reassignment.
Sovieto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i dont understand your story. why did the vet have to ask you for the question on behalf of the client? and why did they reply with a sigh?
They asked me because I was not a trained professional. They sighed because an idiot high school kid was instantly able to come up with the answer that a dog "breeder" couldn't.
Sovieto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
got it
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you give a food to a puppy if she eats it a girl if he eats it's a boy :)
I'm so baffled by how I cannot understand this story. The vet sighed and walk away, who is the client? why did the vet sighed?, why does it matter if the client is a breeder?
The vet asked me because I was not trained in anything (not a vet tech, not a vet) to make sure the question was, indeed, stupid.
The client being a breeder matters, because if you can't do so much as identify the sex of a puppy (which is easy, let's face it - penis if a boy, no penis if a girl) you have no business calling yourself a breeder. Breeding dogs means being able to take proper care of not only mom and dad, but the pups for the first little while. If you can't tell if a pup is a boy or a girl (common sense) then how the hell are you supposed to be able to tell if they're healthy or not?
Vet tech here. Had a nonclient bring Fluffy in for vomiting on emergency hours. The lady told me the cat was female, so I trusted her. Lifted the tail to get a temp...Fluffy had some pretty fluffy man bits. I tell the owner and she said "are you sure she's a boy? She doesn't have a penis hanging down!"
The asshole in question is very much making fun of transgender people, but if you want to be associated with that kind of behaviour just so you can take shots at some activists, that's your business.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He thinks that being transgender is a mental illness. He said so quite openly. I feel that people who make jokes like this are the ones trivializing and undermining the work we're doing just to survive, so you'll have to forgive me for thinking you're a jerk for doing so.
I'm guessing the little mound (For the girl) and the tiny penis looked the same for her. Well. They are both in completely different positions. But I guess she never made the connection.
For a moment I thought you had to tell the vet how to tell the difference. I'm so glad (an somehow not glad) it was the client.
imghurrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever one of my clients tells me about their breeders advice (which is a lot), I tell them that breeders make their living by watching dogs fuck and don't know anything about medicine. It normally gets through to them.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
male puppies have TWO tails...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fancied herself a breeder
You mean she was too cheap to get them spayed/neutered and just let them fuck like doggos do. Any good breeder has at least a highschooler's grasp on anatomy and evolutionary biology. This lady was just dumb and lazy.
I work at a pet store, we have customer's who after we show them a puppy, and tell them it's a girl will question us. Why? Because they see the dogs vagina and automatically think that's a penis and we are stupid.
Hate people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it. Why'd they sigh and walk away? You gave the correct answer.
I was a vet tech for 8 years. One of our clients who was probably one of the dumbest people I've ever met got a new cat, a female. We were about to give her her vaccinations, but the doc had to step out for a sec. The kitty rolled onto her back and the lady points to the cats nipples and asks what they are. And I tell her they are nipples. Then she asks, "Is that where the kittens come from?" I think the doc came back in shortly after that and i let him take it from there because honestly, I was so wtf lady?!
Much like the human baby, kittens appear as fruiting nipples. The Papa cat will fertilise the nipple with his cat juice and a few weeks later the nipples will swell into the shape of a kitten on each. After about a month it will dislodge and you'll have six new cat babies and a set of new nipples will start blooming upon the chest of the Mama cat.
As a tech, I had a 30 minute conversation about what an oral medication was. At the end, the best thing for the cat was a transdermal, but there was no way she was going to understand that. Cat died 8 months later, because she couldn't understand how to give any medication.
This makes me so sad. As someone with no medical training but who had a dog with both megaesophagus and cancer for three years I learned quite a bit about giving medications... because that's what you do.
Actually it meant her esophagus stretched out all of a sudden so that the muscles that push the food down don't work (cause unknown) She had to eat upright and use gravity to get food down and couldn't drink water.
Freiling ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:26:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. This old bitch was so ignorant and her kids, who were in their 20s, asked me questions that an 8 year old would ask. Seemed to me that they were all products of incest, the only way I could explain how unbelievably stupid they were
starkwar ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:26:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, when I first became a technician, I would roll my eyes when my doctors would write "Give 1 tablet by mouth twice a day for 7 days" because where else would that tablet go? Boy, did I have a nasty wake up call...
I straight up read that as a vegetarian and I couldn't figure out for the life of me why that had anything to do withit. Took me reading it 5 times to see what you really wrote.
Having it drag out for 10 minutes was really your fault to be honest. Just agree with them once you find out what side the issue is on and move on. This works in technical support as well.
Having fostered several kittens now, I still don't understand how my mum and step-dad thought the kitten we got when I was about 6 was a boy. Of the three males I've cared for, one had balls, one had a single ball and one had bumps at 8 weeks. Surely the lack of presence of any of these should have tipped them off.
Obviously, you should get male cats neutered as well and that would have solved the problem of finding out our kitten was a girl via her getting pregnant. I put their ignorance down to them not really thinking about it and the fact that the only vet nearby was just the worst human being, let alone vet. I don't really blaming them for not trusting a man who put on his records that my sister's rabbit was a guinea pig. I also had a very sick rabbit who was suffering from these big, oozing sores all over his body, this vet just grabbed him and started plucking huge chunks of fur out, leaving the poor wee guy bleeding profusely and clearly in shock. He never actually diagnosed the problem or addressed my rabbit's myriad of other health problems. Poor chap died a few weeks later. This wasn't even that long ago, 1996 or 1997.
Am I missing something? You had to explain left and right to a competent adult?
Orthonut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a vet student, I once had to explain to a client that when I said (and provided easy to follow written plan) to take Fluffy on walks 3x/day starting at 15 mins each and adding 1 min to each walk every other day that I intended, in fact, for their morbidly obese dog to walk not ride in a stroller whilst the owner pushed him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He still thinks you are the idiot.
Frickin Dr. Dolittle thinks dog knows left and right
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's parents adopted their first dog ever and picked the wrong one from the litter and brought it home thinking it was a boy until their daughter explained that it had no penis and was a girl. They though my the genitalia was hidden inside the body.
Isn't this weird? I'm a vet, too. It seems like narcissism to me.
"Put this in the left eye."
"Whose left?"
"Your dog's left! It's HIS eye, not yours."
If you fucking sleep in your contact lenses long enough, they will fuse to your eyes and will need surgery to have them removed. Yes, you can go blind from this. For the love of God, don't sleep in your contact lenses.
This happened to my brother... he slept with them for 9 weeks, never taking them out. He had to have them surgically removed and wear an eye patch for like ever.
I've never worn contact and have just realized what you described is a huge fear of mine
JustVan ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 05:21:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who once accidentally fell asleep with my contacts in and woke up feeling like my eyes were glued to plastic (which I guess they basically were), I can't comprehend how people can make a habit of this. It feels SO AWFUL and your eyes don't feel rested at all because they're so oxygen starved, ughsoiruhi4w5jrth.
Well, these days they have a lot of soft lenses that are way better/safer to sleep in. The kind I have now let more oxygen through supposedly, which helps prevent that kind of effect.
Anecdotally, the rare occasions where I've left them in on accident my eyes don't feel like death the next day. Usually just a little dry for a while, then they're fine. My old contacts felt like I was pulling off part of my eye if I slept in them, it was awful. And hell, maybe I was, from the sounds of things. O.o
Ditto, I just don't like putting things in my eyes. I've tried multiple times to get contacts and every time I left embarrassed because I couldn't get the contact in without help. I think I got one in, then I couldn't get it back out and had an anxiety attack. Fuck contacts.
zerbey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, unless you're actively trying or just plain stupid it's very hard to do this by accident.
serefina ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:24:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just thought they irritated your eyes. That was enough for me not to want to wear them. They fuse to your eyeballs?! =/
rodery ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 10:34:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you leave them in for a long-ish period of time.
I've only ever worn dailies, but believe me, after wearing them for 12-14 hours, you definitely wouldn't want to sleep in them. Don't understand how/why people do these kind of things.
Speaking form experience when I was young I would wear contacts for months without taking them out. Didn't hurt wasn't dry or anything. Yearly doctors appointments and every time eyes were perfectly healthy.
Finally maybe like 5-7 years of this my opto asked if I was wearing them more than I should as it looked like I was starting to get whatever "veiny eyeball" lack of oxygen w/e w/e. I told him that I never take them out and haven't ever and he was baffled how it hadn't started much earlier.
Anyway, I cut it out and it hasn't progressed at all in about 7 years..soo lucky me I guess?
I'm very much the same as you; have slept for years with them in and have always had healthy eyes at every appointment up until a few weeks ago when I noticed my left eye wasn't seeing so strongly anymore. When I went in for my second round of tests, they found that my right eye was dulling in strength now too. Long story short, they still don't know what's caused/causing it but next appt they're going to look at corneal oedemas (fluid trapped between layers of the cornea)
rodery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother occasionally does it because it's easier than putting them in again the next morning if we are camping/travelling or he isn't getting a lot of sleep and will have dry eyes from being tired.
I personally can't wait to get mine out at the end of a day so I don't understand this at all, but he really hates his glasses.
rodery ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:28:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know several people that leave them in 'accidentally' if they've been out for the night and regret it a lot in the morning. But still end up doing it.
I totally agree with you, I can't understand it. But I suppose if you get used to it, you'll keep doing it.
I had monthlies but since I would wear them at the least 12 hours a day because of my long daily schedule I got a double eye infection. Couldn't go anywhere for about a week because I couldn't see. Then she switched me to dailies and I love them! I love the fresh feeling every time instead of struggling with the monthly.
rodery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:09:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never tried monthlies (only wear contacts on very rare occassions) but I'm convinced I'd manage to fuck them up somehow haha. Sorry to hear about the double eye infection, but glad the dailies are working out for you!
Thanks! Don't even bother with monthlies they are a pain because you have to make sure they are always clean in a case. Buy solution for the contacts and what not. Just easier to have dailies.
rodery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:16 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My doctor always told me that if I don't then I have a huge risk of eye infection. I always took them out and I didn't understand why other people wouldn't either.
serefina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't trust myself not to accidentally fall asleep with them in, so I've never worn them.
When I was a teenager and in college, I left my monthlies in for months at a time. I always used eye drops in the morning (okay, it was saline solution), and I never had any problems. I told my optometrist after about 2 years of doing this and he was all doom and gloom, but:
I knew this was risky, because when I was oh maybe 12 or 13, my mom ripped a bit of her cornea off after leaving her contacts in during international travel and then trying to take them out without moisturizing them first. That was my take-away from my mom's experience: if you leave your contacts in too long, wet them first before you try to take them out, maybe even give the drops a few minutes to soak if my eyes feel extra dry. Served me well.
Now I pay for my own health insurance, so you can bet I take those puppies out every night, just in case I used up all my good eye luck already.
I used to overwear my contacts. I took them out at night, but I kept my monthlies around for several months, rather than replacing them, because I didn't feel anything wrong about them. My optometrist found that I had the beginnings of corneal neovascularization, which spooked me pretty badly, so I switched back to wearing glasses.
I had a roommate that used to sleep in hers for weeks at a time. She got 2 eye infections within the year that we lived together. No fusing though, so that's a plus!
my mom ripped a bit of her cornea off after leaving her contacts in during international travel and then trying to take them out without moisturizing them firs
The kind I have are supposed to be safe to sleep in for 14 days. It still feels bad to sleep even one night, even one NAP. That doesn't change the fact that I'm a serial offender though :( But never two days in a row
Not cataracts but you might know; my eyes are a -6.0 blind whats the most fucked up your eyes can be before lasik can't fix everything. Also, any tips on helping protect my eyesight? 18 and pretty fucking blind :(
sorakoi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had PRK in my late 20's, my eyes were -8.25. Like, hold a book up a hand-width from my face to read it blind. You'll have to wait until your prescription stabilizes before they'll do it, though, usually in your mid-20's.
jerk40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you :) it'll probably take me quite a few years to be able to put off the extra money but at least now i'm confident that once my prescription stabilizes I can get that done. btw were there any side effects or anyone had a bad experience?
Speaking from the main assistant for a LASIK surgeon's standpoint, the biggest side effects I've seen are being more prone to dry eyes (dryness tends to effect someone more when they have less cornea to work with) and prescription drift.
You're at a -6.00 approximately, so you're probably more likely to be a candidate for PRK (instead of the flap, they just remove the top layer so you can get the laser in to reshape). The recovery time is a little greater for PRK (a week for PRK vs a day for LASIK), and they'll put on a special bandage contact lens for a week while your cornea is healing. However, PRK's benefits over LASIK are that it's overall safer for the eyes, is good for people with underlying dry eye, and is less likely to drift afterwards.
I already have naturally drying eyes will it be a big issue and most importantly from your customers standpoints is it worth it? Also since no insurance what's the best/easiest way to get it cheap without going down south to get it haha.
Price around, see what you think, also ask what they provide with the procedure (some offices provide drops, some don't, some have a period of "enhancement" or touch up free of charge). I haven't heard a patient that's been disappointed that they've had it so far.
Personally, and I'm about a -5.25, I have considered the options and don't think it's the right choice for me. I've been in glasses since age 8, and I don't like how my face looks without glasses very well.
Some things to keep in mind, once you hit your 40s, your near vision is going to start going, so, to get the most out of it, you'll want to have it done younger. If you're in your 40s, you will probably want to discuss with your surgeon the option for blended vision or monovision (they're synonyms, but it can get confusing), or having one eye set at distance, one at near. It's not perfect, but it's a good middle ground, and the brain tends to adapt pretty well. A good surgeon, if you want to consider this option, will have you try it out first before you have surgery to avoid having the need for an enhancement later (basically, a touch-up of your LASIK/PRK).
Also, you will eventually get cataracts, it's inevitable. If you can get a copy of your topography readings and stow them away, that'll be helpful for your eventual cataract surgeon, unless future medicine finds a better way to deal with them.
jerk40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, when I'm driving at night, I completely regret it. The light halos are bad and it makes for difficult driving - lots of concentration which leads to headaches. Other than that, it's great!
jerk40 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:21:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not too bad. Went pretty quick, the next hour or two was hell. Felt like someone rubbing sandpaper on your eye balls but then the meds kicked in and it's been good. The only issue is seeing at night. The halos are bad.
There's many times of eye surgery, and there are laser surgeries that are not Lasik. Also, not all ophthalmologists are trained in the same surgeries. When was your last eye appointment?
Tips to help your eyes: If you wear glasses and contact lenses, rotate them so you're not always relying on one, don't watch TV or use a laptop in a dark room (have an overhead light on or a desk light pointed at what you're looking at), if you work at a computer station or a job where you "stare" at something for awhile, take eye breaks (look out the window at the scenery for a few minutes, look at the wall, the floor, turn and talk to a friend), use sunscreen around your eyes, use sunglasses or wear a hat in sunny weather, if you're female make sure to use soap and water every night to take off your eye makeup and never sleep in it.
It actually depends on the brand you are using. Some are okay for over night were. I can sleep in mine for up to 2 weeks (I can go longer if I feel lazy with no down sides).
The horror story is most likely caused from months of leaving them in past due, and not using any eye drops.
I had a friend (luckily who didn't wear contacts) actually genuinely though that the 24 hour disposable contacts were dissolvable and all you did is left them in, went to bed, then woke up the next day and put the next pair in...
Multiple people tried to convince him that this is insane, but he still went on believing it.
He was in his mid 20's at the time.
Slightly related, my mother used to wear old school hard (also possibly non permeable I think) contact lenses (she has worn contacts as long as I can remember). Over the years it actually changed the shape of her eyes.
Nubalox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And people ask me why I sill wear glasses.
joybuzz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean if they fuse to your eyes you get permanent 20/20 vision eh? Stupid doctors not thinkin outside the box.
I have a friend who brags and brags about how she never takes her contacts out and scoffs at me because I say I can't stand to sleep in them and take mine out nightly. Same friend suffers from migraines and never sleeps well. Coincidence??
Please beg your friend to get her eyes looked at. It's really not a joke and she can have life long bacterial issues from doing this. Get her to see an eye doctor ASAP.
So much of this (also a medical assistant for a cataract/LASIK surgeon, been exposed to ophthalmology pretty much all of my memorable life). I had an underclassman back in high school (normally bright guy) that I had the "No, no, stop that" talk with regarding sleeping in his contact lenses. He didn't listen. Nothing happened in high school as far as I know, but he probably got an acanthamoeba or something. I haven't heard from him in ages.
Sumeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once fell asleep while still wearing those soft contacts. The sensation of dried-up lens sticking to your eyeball and eyelid is painful enough to not do that again. Are there actually people who keep wearing lenses?
I just had a college age girl in the ER the other day with a massive eye infection. She had slept in them and went about her business in the same pair of lenses for about a month. Your eyes are not meant to have foreign bodies in them that long.
Sumeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:01 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes, the mere thought of having lenses in for more than 8 consecutive hours already makes me uncomfortable. Did she give a reason why she was wearing them so long?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh God I'm getting anxiety. Please please please calmly explain to her why she cannot do that (use Google images if you must), and have her see her eye doctor to make sure everything is okay.
Every ophthalmologist or cataract surgeon I work with bluntly says that's bullshit, and STILL maintains you should be rotating your glasses and contacts. Your eyes were never meant to have a foreign body in them like that. Do we all have emergencies occasionally? Yes. Do we sometimes get drunk and pass out in contacts? Yes. But a big thing is your eyes won't always signal pain if something is wrong. Major issues can be happening to your retina, cornea, etc without a "signal" of pain, blood or pus. I myself have astigmatism and use glasses and contacts. If I wear contacts on Monday and Tuesday (I take them out at night), I will wear glasses Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. I'm a female, and also a stickler about using soap and water to remove eye makeup, and recommend anyone with oily eyelids or who use extensive makeup to use diluted baby shampoo to clean their eyelids and under the eyes every night when they're washing up for bed.
If you have glasses, I recommend every other day (one day contacts, one day glasses). If you're on your last pair of contact lenses, please make an eye appointment (I know it takes forever to get one), and rotate your glasses as much as possible. I know contacts are expensive, I know most of us don't like wearing glasses, but please, this is your eyesight.
I learned this lesson the fun way. Kept my contacts in for far too long and didn't change them out for a few months at a time. Eventually broke down and went in for a long overdue exam because I kept feeling like I had dirt or something in my eye and had no more replacement contacts. Ended up having a scratched cornea that required medicated drops and no contacts for a week or so. I take them out every night or when I'm just hanging out at the house now.
Iy13n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I use Ortho-K lenses. :)
citoloco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like there was an article out there a little while ago where a girl didn't take hers out for six months and this happened to her.
Dotre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I used to wear them almost weekly even bi-weekly without even removing them. Makes sense that I can't wear my contacts longer than 10 hours nowadays.
I talked to my opthalmologist colleague, and no, they can't "fuse" to the eye. It's more like touching a tongue to a frozen pole: They can stick very easily, but saline will soften them, and yes, sometimes doctors will need to remove them. But "fusing?" He said absolutely not. But he did say non compliance can lead to blindness from this and many other reasons.
I read a story maybe a year ago, I think it was in Japan or China, where a woman left her contacts in for 6 months, just like, figured she could pop them in, and she'd be good from then on or something. Well, unsurprisingly this resulted in bacterial growth and she ended up with ulcerated corneas and is now blind.
We do a lot of what we type in as "EWF" (ER Follow Ups). You came to the normal ER, and we see the aftermath. So if you got in a car accident and got stitched up, we would check your eye socket, stuff like that. Corneal ulcers are common. Nurses freak out when people explain they stored their contacts in tap water and then put them in, because of the risk of bacterial growth.
-ili- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no I fall asleep with my glasses on all the time ๐๐๐
I have the air optix night and day ones. My eyes never feel dry, I take them out overnight once a week. Been sleeping in them for years. My prescription hasn't changed in a few years either. I used to hate the acuvue ones I was getting before because I could also "feel" them in, but with these I honestly have never felt a big difference from when I'm wearing them vs when I'm not.
just took mine out and gonna wear glasses for a while.
i go many months at a time wit them in all day all night. i mean many. like 3+, 6+, who knows, even 12 x_x. repeatedly. for many years.never had a problem.
6 months, sometimes longer. Sorry, I just saw this comment. Better late than never.
s_dot_p ยท 13037 points ยท Posted at 23:04:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got placed doing a rotation in the orthopedic floor of a big hospital in a rural area of Southern California. I was doing my rounds and saw a patient out of bed and walking around the floor following a knee replacement. She had a cane in her hand that she was carrying like as a solider would carry a rifle. I asked what she was doing and what she thought the cane was for. She replied she thought the cane was for pushing people out of her way since she's now "handicapped" and it wasn't to help her walk on her post op knee.
Awk_Ward1 ยท 4714 points ยท Posted at 23:58:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the first response that genuinely made me laugh out loud. I can just imagine some cranky old woman swatting people out of her way.
My Mom worked at a nursing home as a cook. They ended up having to take away the electric wheelchair of a resident that was 107 because she kept running people over when they made her mad.
I knew someone from primary school (uk) who had 1 arm and during his later years of secondary he actually got a prosthetic arm it was a pretty good one however he would sometimes remove it and hit people with it and broke it within the week.
My friend did the same with her leg. This little shit had been mercilessly calling her hopalong for weeks. She could normally deal with it (she was used to kids being horrible because she was different) but one day she lost it and took her leg off in the playground and twatted this kid round the head with it. He never did it again. My mum worked at the school and said all the teachers were secretly glad she did it because this kid needed knocking down a peg or two.
kinda except he was not as terrifing but he would he would still fuck you up in video games (i found out the old fashioned way 1V1 rust) as he had a small stump
There is a care home opposite my high school, there was one resident who would deliberately aim his wheelchair at groups of students and try to run us over.
It has been 8 years since I left school and I still panic a little bit every time I see him
Neutrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has no belligerent teenager ever tried to tip him over or something?
My brother worked at a nursing home as a "dietary aide". Basically he delivered lunch and dinner to the residents. There was an old lady that flashed him every time he delivered her meals.
Acute psych nurse story! Little old ladies are the ones who will time it out perfectly so that you're doing rounds while they're loudly and furiously masturbating.
My grandmother raised me. She was paralyzed from the waist down when she was 17 and by the time I was living with her she was in an electeic wheelchair that weighed about 300 pounds and if we got ran over it was, "well, why weren't you paying attention?" We learned to stay out of her way real quick.
I knew someone from primary school (uk) who had 1 arm and during his later years of secondary he actually got a prosthetic arm it was a pretty good one however he would sometimes remove it and hit people with it and broke it within the week.
YAY! I have a story (short) for you then. I live in NYC. Went to Chinatown one day a couple years ago with my hun and we saw this hunchbacked elderly Chinese lady making her way down Canal street by swinging her cane back and forth around her in a wide arc. Lady was taking no chances getting knocked over. It was totally working too, she had this little bubble of personal space about 3 feet on each side and everyone else was packed like sardines. It was a sight. I hope she's still swinging!
I drove a bus for awhile and once a car next to me at a stoplight, driven by a young dbag, stopped, blocking the crosswalk. An old gentleman with a cane was waiting to cross. He stared the guy down, raised his cane and brought it down HARD over the car's hood. He then walked around the car and went on his way. The guy in the car was slack jawed just sat there.
It sucks when the crossroad is blocked by a late braker, and you have to walk around it, specially if you have a handicap. But, scratching the paint of the car just to show the other guy was wrong, is way worse.
The dbag was inconvenient, or inconsiderate at best. The old gentleman(?) was a vandal who damaged private property on purpose.
bahzew ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure. Blind people need to actually touch the ground with their canes because they can't see tripping obstacles or judge steps down or up without it. She never touched the ground with her cane. She looked pretty darn frail so I really think she was using it to keep people from pushing into her. If she was blind, she was really new to being blind cause that was not the way to use a cane for navigation.
They don't need to touch the ground, I've seen at least one that didn't. Sometimes people just do what they feel is more natural to them. There was that blind kid, that could create a sort of sonar with his mouth, letting him even skate.
Different people will do it differently, but they can just swipe in front of the feet, to detect big obstacles (walls, people, boxes, etc), or maybe she just wasn't properly educated/trained on it's use.
That would also explain why everyone was giving her wide margin - people tend to actively avoid getting in the way of blindmen.
I didn't remember the cane color. BF says it was dark wood or black. We were across the street. I really think she would have fell at some point using the cane that way if she were blind. She was swinging it at her head height.
Seems kinda cunty to me, she probably hits people all the time (it's not nice being hit in the face with what is basically a thin club). I feel like if that story was about a grandpa rather than a old lady everyone would be up in arms.
I mean it's funny and probably not doing to much harm but still
Idk whatever I guess it doesn't really matter but I already typed this out so I'm going to post it anyway
Well, she didn't hit anyone while we were watching. I really do think everyone else was more dangerous to her than she was to them. She looked pretty frail. I think getting knocked over would've broken one or more of her bones.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd've loved my grandma.
In her 80s she was legally blind and had a white cane. Not one of those modern telescoping aluminium white sticks but a solid wooden cane, weighed more than a police baton.
Walking through town with me she'd just use it to point things out, without any consideration for anyone in the immediate vicinity. That cane was the original Street Sweeper. Whistling across horizontally at waist height it would clear the entire pavement for a 2 metre radius. I hated to think what it would've done if it'd connected with a kid's head.
When my mom was walking with a cane (horseback riding accident) and we were being unduly delayed coming through security at O'Hare on like leg three of a really long trip, I suggested she do just that.
Pretty much everyone who uses a mobility aid has considered it. Able bodied people tend to lack perception of where their feet are, and often are unwilling to move if they don't think they are in the way, or they move their body but not their feet. It's peculiar.
ReptiRo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CRACK "OUTTA MY WAY I'M DISABLED!!"
Dopana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My great grandmother was notorious for whacking male residents in her nursing home with her cane if she thought they were being fresh with her.
fojkrok ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 02:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad was on very harsh pain meds in the hospital for a tumor in his spinal chord so he was really out of it. One night, he was hunting lions and used his cane as a spear...
donutnz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet he made some cats day. It was finally treated with the fear and respect it deserved. The thought of your dad and some cat, both tripping balls, hunting each other through a hospital at midnight like they're on the African Savanah is quite entertaining. Though also kind of bad as I'm sure he was in significant pain.
fojkrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:46 on January 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well he was bed ridden so he only really scared the nurses and his "roommates". On the upside, he was treated to a free private room afterwards!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ubisoft are getting creating with Far Cry Primal VR.
This is exactly what my father-in-law did with his cane. At first he hated it because he thought it made him look old. When he realized it was a weapon of immense power, there was no leaving it behind.
Rural area of Southern California...was it in Hanford?
Watowdow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is either Bakersfield or Antelope Valley.
amesann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was my guess too. They said large hospital so I'm guessing a desert town. I work at a large one in Palm Springs, but I doubt people would call the area "rural" unless you're only used to large cities.
My grandmother passed away last month and this would so be her shuffling her way down to the food court swatting people away.. thank you for this :)
Neyabenz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not exactly wrong...
bhampson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an 80 year old man that wanted Viagra. Me, being a responsible physician, tried to inquire if his heart was healthy enough for sex. His response "my wife and I don't have sex any more. Masturabating daily makes it so I don't wake up in the middle of the night to pee."
I didn't know how how to respond so I wrote the prescription.
bhampson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an 80 year old man that wanted Viagra. Me, being a responsible physician, tried to inquire if his heart was healthy enough for sex. His response "my wife and I don't have sex any more. Masturabating daily makes it so I don't wake up in the middle of the night to pee."
I didn't know how how to respond so I wrote the prescription.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a wheelchair user I kinda like this idea. I have been slammed into so many times and just literally not seen (and I feel bad about the couple of time heavy powerchair ran over people's feet as a result but I mean, that's kinda what you get for not watching where you're going) and my favorite is when all the able-bodied people crowd onto an elevator even if I was waiting before everyone so there's no room for me to get on. Think it would be hilarious to stick out a cane and refuse to let the door shut until I was allowed on. (Also useful in general for rapidly closing elevator doors). And being smacked with a cane hurts less then the broken toes of being run over so...
I like her style! Now we just need to teach trump a lesson
zerbey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A knew an elderly lady who used to cross the road by the following method: One she would raise her walking stick up in the air, two she would step into oncoming traffic. People in the town got pretty adept at slowing down when they saw her coming. It's a miracle she was never hit, she wasn't and lived to 102.
Hahaha, she sounds amazing. I know several people who look look forward to the fact that when they are old they can be cranky and cantankerous and it will be somewhat more socially acceptable.
"Out of the way fuckers! Can't you see I'm handicapped?!""
[deleted] ยท 253 points ยท Posted at 01:14:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talking to the children/POAs of nursing home residents about vaccines. Most will just sign the flu shot form. Some believe it will give their 90-some grandpappy autism.
I would just start telling them that I have autism and I turned out fine, so don't worry about it.
EvilSJW ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:00:32 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually a pretty good example of how batshit insane misinformation about vaccines has gotten, tbh
freddybob ยท 254 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist, but comment still relates.
Had a lady call in complaining that their husbands viagra wasn't working. I then went on to explain to the patients wife that in order for the medication to work, the patient needed some sort of "stimulation"
The lady just screamed a loud "ME?!?!?!" and then hung up the phone.
Client brings in her dog for a tick she tried to burn off. Looking, I see it's a nipple and tell her this. She says "but he's a boy! How can he have nipples?" I say "ma'am, your husband has nipples." Blank stare. Then lightbulb moment for her.
How are you supposed to get them off then? I always heard you were supposed to light a match, blow it out, then hold the match end to them to make them drop off because if you pull with tweezers the head can break off. Are you just supposed to wait for them to drop off on their own?
Also, yech. This whole topic is grossing me. (Am not a doctor. Wouldn't last a day.)
The big ones (adult wood ticks and lone-stars) I've been able to pull out with my fingertips. The trick is to gently and steadily increase the force, rather than yanking on them. For nymphs, I usually slide the edge of a knife under the body, pin them against the blade with my thumb, and do the same steady-pull routine.
There's also such a thing as a "tick key," a flat piece of aluminum with a specially shaped hole in it, that they sell at some outdoor/camping stores. It doesn't work on ticks below a couple of millimeters wide, but for adult deer ticks and larger species, I can't recommend it highly enough.
Edit: I do sympathize. I'm an ecologist and tend to be pretty hardcore about conservation and not killing things without a reason, but I absolutely despise ticks.
My friend is a student doctor and is on placement at a small town doctor's office.
She had a 70-ish year old woman come in with complaints of a small but painless growth that was visible at the back of her throat.
Turns out it took her 70 years to notice her uvula.
Shendare ยท 3898 points ยท Posted at 02:28:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was so not a film for kids when you look at the whole movie and its contents. There were sexual and drug references, it was pretty scary for a kids movie and I just felt a more teenage vibe watching it.
I think that's its real weakness. It got marketed for kids so teens were uninterested, probably expecting a campy weak horror, but for kids it's not that interesting either and probably too scary for many.
LobeLardo ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 03:50:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh 4-9 year old me is terrified of that movie but watching them collapse and old cement lady still haunts me...
[deleted] ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 05:06:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 10. Was watching it with my parents and right before the cement* scene they got bored and left me alone in the dark. Edited because it was supposed to say cement. Not cemetery.
I fell in love with this movie when I was 15 and it is still one of my favorites! I used to smoke weed out of my apple pipe I made and watch it! Ohh that and Doogal!!
Oh no doubt there I just felt weird working at a movie theater during it's theatrical release as the audience was parents of late 20s to early 40s accompanying their 4 to 10 yr olds. I felt like the people it was marketed to weren't of appropriate age. I'm sure the parents enjoyed it though
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow I still haven't watched it despite being a Dan Harmon fanboy, I need to get on that.
It was a great film. I subbed for a middle school English teacher that showed it to his class every year around Halloween to show them the key elements to telling a cohesive story (exposition, rising action, climax, falling action and conclusion).
xprdc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember the sex one besides it being between the sister and stoner like bf. The drug one is the cold medicine as a sedative for the house ( the cops reinforce this in movie)
Kid's horror movies are not just toned down horror movies. Usually they end up being really fucking creepy rather than outright horrifying, and that's the part that gets me. Monster House really freaked me out for a while.
AmberNeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was a "Here take your younger sibling to a movie" movie.
I was a kid when it came out in theaters and watched it in 3D. It scared the shit out of me and gave me nightmares for weeks. Same thing for Courage the Cowardly Dog.
Wait, sexual and drug references?? How did I miss those? But in all seriousness, how is that different than any Disney movies (which are known for having subtle sex/adult themed references)?
My son was obsessed with that movie the first four years of his life.
It's actually quite good and yeah, so many older age level jokes in that movie.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids should watch scary movies, it forms a lot of great unrealistic fears for them to overcome. It's part of growing up. This notion that kids movies shouldn't be scary is ludicrous, especially coming from the generation that experienced scary movies as kids and came out the other side A-OK. Sterilizing a generation's media is how we end up with oversensitive whinebags who cannot contribute to the great machine.
I was afraid most wouldn't get the joke because they don't know that they call the "vagina" is actually a "vulva" (the vagina is ONLY the tunnel).
7MeUP ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:35:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know you don't care but I literally just watched Rogue One and was talking about how one of the generals from the empire (the one that was made using CGI) looked like the old man from Monster House and now I see this. Baader Meinhof Phenomenon never fails to amaze me when it appears.
iHokage ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:39:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: Dang it, wrong movie. Got all excited cuz I thought it said Monster Squad. You just don't see enough references from that movie
Poopyoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone with a dirty mind and 22 years old im just making sure- is it because it looks KIND OF like the word vulva? because i think i missed something
Shendare ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:48:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. The joke is that the blond kid managed to know enough about anatomy to mistake 'uvula' for the name of an exclusively female body part, the vulva.
IAmBabs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the end, kid wasn't wrong.
bossdogs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your format makes it look like a scriptural quotation from the gospel of Monster House
Shit. For my entire life until now I thought my uvula was my tonsils. My nurse wife just looked at me like I'm the biggest idiot in the world. I guess I don't blame her.
My boyfriend has incredible street smarts and a great knowledge of history but apparently not anatomy. He kept telling me his tonsil would make him gag when his throat was swollen. He showed me once and his throat looked fine. Turns out he was talking about his uvula. He thought it was a tonsil. Edit: word
[deleted] ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 01:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only learned as an adult that uvula and tonsils are different things
To be fair, kids usually hear about tonsils in terms of them being removed and being somewhere in the back of the throat. There's no reason to presume it's not the only thing you can see back there.
poiyurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't know why this doesn't come up in school.
If you didn't get a totally clear answer it has a lot to do with your sinuses. One of the things it does is keep food/liquid from going up into your nose all the time.
Doctor, I've got thing growth in between my legs that's been there for as long as I can remember and sometimes stuff comes out of it. What's wrong with me!
I once drank too much, slept with my mouth agape while snoring aggressively and my uvula swelled up to the point that I thought I had something stuck in my throat, it began choking me when I tried to swallow it until I puked. Had to keep my head forward to avoid choking until the Dr could give me some steroids.
I shadowed my GP when I was a senior and considering medical school. He was moonlighting at a free clinic in lower income area. His nurse received a call late one morning from an alderly lady who was speaking Spanish. Her Spanish wasn't very good so she passed her over to the doctor who was fluent. All she was saying was "I've got vines in my poot". He couldn't figure out what she was saying and attributed it to an odd local dialect where she was from, and just told her to come on into the clinic.
She came in a couple hours later, and upon examination; she indeed had vines growing out of her vagina.
Turns out her uterus had started to fall as can happen with older women who have not had a hysterectomy, and her solution was to place a potato up there to hold it in place.
The vines where the potato sprouting...and thriving.
jennap08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK what? I don't care if get down voted to infinity. I've never heard the word uvula before? I've never had my tonsils out or any sort of throat problem. I have a college degree and work in finance so I've never taken any sciences classes. Is it really that weird that I've just found out my tonsils aren't where I thought they were?
It's weird but at the same time I can kinda see how it happened. I mean, the uvula is not exactly a high-profile body part. I was reminded of the uvula existing by this comment.
I have a split uvula (kind of looks like balls in the back of my throat, a little like this picture) and I think I was a teenager before I realized that I was a bit unusual and most people only have one uvula. When I saw a uvula in cartoons I always thought it was weird that there was only one.
yeame3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my relatives around that age called the front desk at a hotel because of shock she felt from touching a windowsill. A worker came up and explained static electricity to her.
lucs86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of it, must be an American thing
kingswim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nursing lecturer told us a story about a women who came into ER with heavy bleeding from the throat. Her uvula had experienced a trauma and was almost entirely gone.
Doctors asked her what happened. She said she was in front of the mirror, looking inside her mouth. Saw her uvula, thought "oh that's weird", took a pair of scissors, and snipped it off.
Your friend should have a word with my dad's doctor who thought that 'that thing at the back of my throat that's making it hard to breath and talk sometimes', was down to this doddering old man confused by his uvula and not the polyp that another doctor finally spotted a year later.
chux4w ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was another story about this. Some girl brought her boyfriend into the ER because of a weird swelling that turned out to be his uvula. The reddit doctor told her that it was totally normal, and to blow their minds told the boyfriend to look in her mouth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had mine removed a few years ago. It's weird.
beeyonca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised she could see well enough at 70 to notice it.
rssmrry ยท 1687 points ยท Posted at 23:25:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I regularly have people come in for eye examinations because 'when I take my glasses of things are blurry'. Often these aren't passing comments during the exam, but the main reason for their visit to the clinic.
I have seen contacts that sort of do that. You sleep in them and then take them out in the morning. At night they shape your eyeball and then over the course of the day it slowly reverts to its natural shape.
Corneal Reshaping Contact Lenses
Well on the other hand, I was recently told that I can't get new glasses because, and the optician said this with a straight face in a casual way, We don't have the kind of frames you need because those were only popular a decade ago. They aren't fashionable anymore. So... you have 500 models that are all identical from the same company... but you don't keep a single fucking model with small round frames in case someone needs thick lenses for a high prescription? You know why else people buy glasses for, beside fashion? To FUCKING SEE STUFF. It's fine people, I'll take the thousand dollar you don't want and shove it up my ass.
Did ten places. All of them have the same inventory. Ended up going to a different town after tracking a guy who works for poor communities and skips the middleman of having a building and a staff to provide glasses to people who need them. Guy shows up around town on fixed hours, carries low-end frame models and deals directly with the lab. Thank god for this dude's amazing decisions because otherwise Id be bumbling around with 3 centimeter thick lenses instead of having a semi-functional pair of glasses. Oh, and I saved about 600 bucks too.
Are you aware of the monopoly on brick and mortar glasses stores? All under one company, Luxxotica, something like that. The answer is to buy online, or do as you did!
And if you want Made in America, Shuron still makes glasses the same way they have been for 30-40 years. Their prices are decent, too: about $100-150 for frames.
Lenses are expensive, though. There's no way around that unless you take your prescription to Asia.
It's sadly true though. It's really hard to find frames to hold smaller lenses currently. I had to replace mine this year after wearing them for 3 years, and even in that time, the size of the lenses has grown. Very annoying for those of us with large prescriptions who don't want to wear coke bottles.
Yes. People will tell you to just ''order online'' but when the spechs, thickness and size are so crucial its not that easy. You want to be able to call a lab guy who makes thickness calculations. You want to know the various options and what they mean in terms of price, weight and uglyness.
Vintage stores are often a good source for cheap frames too. The store I used to work at had boxes of them, unpriced sitting in the back, when people came looking for frames we'd let them rifle through. Usually charged $10-$20 for them.
beeyonca ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 01:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did they get glasses in the first place?
What do they think the purposes of glasses are?!
kryptn ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 01:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20 years ago where I live kids with diopter less than 100 were not fitted glasses "because their eyes would get used to it", eg parents would send kids to get glasses but actively encourage not to wear them. Wtf
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man but our profession did it to ourselves spreading misinformation to appease the almighty dollar, and not standing up for ourselves, reducing us to mere salespeople in a lot of people's eyes. That's why I went to the lab.
Also I am a recovering alcoholic so you might be on to something...
reducing us to mere salespeople in a lot of people's eyes.
This is so true. It's infuriating because you're so often dismissed as being a clueless used car salesman.
sviperll ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a short sighted person and I've alwsys wondered, why there is no research on treatment for short sighted people. I'm not a specialist, but I've always thought that some kind of contact lenses that will stimulate you eye musles with electric discharges sounds promising. But there is no research what so ever, just glasses and contact lenses...
It isn't about the muscles. There is an imperfection in the shape of the eye causing the light to stop short of focusing on the retina at the back of the eye. LASIK is really the only treatment.
Well lasic will cure it, so there's that. Plenty of research went into that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah LASIK lasts 10 years max. The shape of your cornea and / or eye causes your condition. The ciliary muscles failure is what causes presbyopia and gives rise to people needing bifocals. LASIK won't fix that at all, but there is tons of research into drug treatments for it actually.
I know it doesn't last, but it's still a lot more permanent than glasses. Due to the fact that it is known to not last a lot of places will give free "touch ups", so it's a one time investment monetarily.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This simply isn't true. LASIK can last as little as three in some cases and as much as ten, a good pair of glasses can last just as long if not longer, I personally have a pair that is well over 30 years old and still have the original lenses. You'd be surprised to see how many people are denied these "touchups" as well. I'm not saying it isn't without pros to it. And very myopic patients can benefit in that it will reduce their Rx to manageable levels. Plus better peripheral vision. But LASIK creates and artificial lens flare on the cornea, can't be done on everyone, and doesn't fix all vision problems. Only you and your doctor can decide if it's worth it but keep in mind that Lenscrafters will tell you it's bad and LASIK plus will say it's good, so be careful where you get your advice. And bottom line, LASIK does not fix presbyopia at all and if your fortunate to life to a certain age, I.e. 40, you will begin to slide down that road, leading to an inability to focus at varying focal lengths. So you WILL need glasses eventually anyway so LASIK is by no means a life long fix or one time investment.
I don't know how you can possibly say that 30 year old glasses are fine, but that your eyes change enough that LASIK isn't.
Glasses will hold up, but the lenses will not be the proper prescription in a few years, just like your argument with LASIK.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point was that the material can last. The lenses in all likelihood wouldn't be for the original owner, but are not discolored or scratched. My Rx is in them now. Any changes in your Rx within 10 years would require a new glasses Rx OR LASIK touch up. LASIK doesn't magically keep your eyes from changing. In LASIK they use a laser to change the shape of your cornea by removing small material. Your cornea is the part of your eye which does the most refracting, so it's like creating an artificial contact lenses out of your actual organ tissue. The shape of your cornea and in some cases the shape of your eye cause myopia or hyperopia but failure of the cilliary muscle and growing rigidity of the interocular lens cause presbyopia, which is why LASIK doesn't work for that, its laser can't magically tickle a muscle into working orake a lens pliable again. LASIK also cannot fix large astigmatisms.
If Sally needs corrective measures for her vision at an Rx of -3.50 -1.00 x 90 in both eyes she can spend $300 bucks for glasses that will give her an effective Rx of 0.00 or perfect vision. Or she can get LASIK, never deal with glasses possibly breaking or contacts, rxs or docs. But her Rx will be 0.00 -0.50 x 90. 20/20 vs 20/25. A decision people make all the time with contacts. The LASIK will roughly cost 1500 bucks. Five years later Sally with glasses notices vision changes and gets new lenses for 200 bucks. LASIK Sally notices them too and maybe they can be corrected with a touch up, free. Glasses are still cheaper. Or maybe the doctor can remove no more corneal material without risking corneal errosion to the patient. So Sally with LASIK gets glasses and pays 300 for them. If Sally's problem is presbyopia then her LASIK surgeon my try to fix it with a mono vision proceedure or do the right thing and tell her to get glasses. Or try monovision in contacts for a year anyway. LASIK Sally still spent more money and had riskier options.
Does that make more sense? I didn't mean to be unclear or disengenious and again only a doctor can make this decision with you. I just find people really don't understand LASIK. If looks and convienence are important to you then fire away. No judgement. LASIK is great. But glasses are far more practical.
I've had patients think that glasses actually make their vision worse and so they try not to wear them all the time.
ehabanks ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, yes. This one. All the damn time!
zer0nix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a very common belief among 1st generation Asians.
Even Michio Kaku had this belief as recently as a few years ago.
there must be something to not using the focusing muscles inside the eye, but at the same time ones life is so much improved by being able to see well that you'd think they would just wear the glasses and then perform eye exercises...
Explain this to me. If they don't make your eyes worse, why did my optometrist tell me not to wear mine all the time, rather only when I need them? She said it wasn't good for my eyes.
I wore them all the time out of convenience (before I got contacts), but was convinced that I was making my eyes worse. My eyes haven't changed in 10 years, so I obviously wasn't, but I don't understand why she would make it seem like it was damaging when it really isn't??
If you're only slightly myopic the more you wear your glasses, the more you enjoy your HD vision. During your next eye exam your might indicate you want more minus with your answers, artificially increasing your prescription and causing the axial length of the eye to change shape.
Also young patients with hyperopia have something called accomodation, meaning they're able to add power to their eyes. This 'runs out' as you age. So she may reccommend you only wear glasss for close work, for example, as your eyes may get strained during this period (as your eyes need more power anyway for close work, so combine that with a plus prescription anyway, and your eyes are going overtime!). So basically, in the distance young hyperopes are able to cope without needed their glasses as they can use their accomodation. Wearing glasses relaxes this, but it can be argued that this again, increases dependence and prescription power.
This is why I have to argue with my 9yo about whether or not she needs to wear her glasses sometimes. She tries to tell me she sees fine without them (I'm sure she does, as did I when I was young). I have to remind her about the months of being a pirate (patching) and that if she wants to see properly out of both eyes (one +2 and one +4), she needs to wear the glasses every day.
Yes it's very important to keep up with amblyopia prevention!!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also young patients with hyperopia have something called accomodation, meaning they're able to add power to their eyes.
I can confirm this from experience. I've got glasses but I've got no problems functioning without them, except for the banging headache I'll develop after a few hours of work.
Worth getting some specs to alleviate it! :) You'll need start to need glasses the older you get, as accommodation declines.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wear them permanently anyway, the last thing I want is to give myself a migraine. It just means that I don't have to deal with the problem of not being able to see where my glasses are when I wake up.
This is a great thing to have read. Makes a lot more sense out of what one of my eye doctors said to me. Was having headaches while focusing on things within two feet of my face with glasses on, he said something about the extra effort for close up focusing. Lenses just exacerbating that effort I suppose?
Not annoying to have them on and off all the time, but it is annoying that people who should know better don't pay attention to this and then try to show me things while they are across the room and I am only two-eyed.
Xinectyl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had my optometrist straight up tell me the same damn thing. Only to wear them when I needed to read something for a long period of time. I was like 12 at the time, so okay. Then in a year when I went back to get reexamined (by a different, competent doctor), when we mentioned that first visit, he was completely dumbfounded. Couldn't believe his colleague told someone who was getting their first pair of glasses and didn't know any different, something like that. First doctor also had done something to my prescription to make them more like reading glasses, and if I wore them while not reading, or looking at something up close, I had a very real chance of running into something. Big waste of $400. So got this new pair at 13, which worked well, then another pair at 16, and I've pretty much had the same prescription for the last 9 years. And I no longer run into furniture or walls.
That first doctor tries to get me in for a visit every year still. :/
I used to work in an opticians, and I found that a very large amount of people didn't understand how eyes or glasses work, even though they've been told numerous times. Glasses don't cure your eyesight issues, they just get the best out of what you have. Also lots of older people would come in and complain about not being able to see as well as they could 20 years ago, and apparently that's our fault. 20 years ago you probably didn't have grey hair and could still get erections. Your body deteriorates with age, and your eyes are no different.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid, "four eyes" was still a real insult in elementary school, so I refused to wear my glasses. My eyesight got better between that time and the next time, so kid me was convinced that glasses were damaging. Adult me isn't so stupid and doesn't do anything without glasses.
If I remember correctly I always got prescription for a tiny bit weaker glasses that I would need for "1080p" vision, so I'm not sure if it completely doesn't matteer
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:05:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must answer us, why do they think they wear glasses? I remember going back in a year after my first pair saying I need an exam because now things are still blurry with my glasses on.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:55:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad once had an elastic band installed around his eye (to aid in healing a detached retina), which squeezed his eye in a way that also meant he didn't need to use his glasses. That would be a little like braces for your eyes.
rssmrry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:20:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never called them out on it as such, I've always just explained that I expect their vision to improve with the specs and that finding the vision worse without specs would be considered normal. For people with low prescriptions (these tend to be the group most likely to comment on worse vision after removing specs) I tend to go into a bit more detail; that because their unaided vision is still functional (though suboptimal) they can leave their specs off long enough to get some degree of adaptation to blur (making them feel their vision is actually a bit better), but putting the glasses on negates the need for this adaptation to blur, so the next time they remove their specs, the adaptation is gone and they feel the vision is worse.
I have patients that come in because they're lonely and don't really have any problems, but none of them have ever commented on this issue. I truly believe that those highlighting it during their exam (or presenting as their main concern) are genuine and not malingering or taking the piss!
"These glasses don't work! Everything is blurry! ......wait, are they supposed to work if I still have my contacts in?"
rssmrry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also had someone rock up for a sight test wearing their contact lenses (bought online without any fitting of course) and not tell me. I tend to refract first then do the health checks after. Took me longer than I'd like to admit to figure out why they'd gone from being really short sighted to moderately longsighted.
I now specifically check my patients don't have any lenses in when I'm refracting them for glasses!!
Ten years as an optician(ABO/NCLE and state licensed) and I never ceased to be amazed at people who wanted to argue with me about these simple things. "Well I've been wearing glasses for 40 years!" Yeah? Well I did over 1,000 orders for glasses alone in just the last year. I've got a fucking clue.
"I wear my contacts over night for three months at a shot all the time!" Yeah? Enjoy having those lenses scraped out of your eyes.
Then there was the woman who complained that she couldn't believe " a simple retinal detachment could cause this much trouble".
I need to go find a wall to bang my head on.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jaw drops I... I can't even... regularly? What on earth do they think glasses are for?
My ex (together for 7-8 years at that moment) got glasses prescripted (she discovered she was shortsighted). I was in awe when she told me "Oh, everything looks SO SHARP!". She lived in a blurry world for years...
Maybe they mean it's more blurry when they take them off than right before they put them on? Could just be a perception thing and thinking wearing the glasses is making their vision more blurry.
5up3rj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:38 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no! I have it too
fhetw ยท 681 points ยท Posted at 23:46:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
During residency in an urban NE USA city, I was in clinic. A very pleasant 50s something lady came in for a physical. Everything was going fine when she casually asks if there are any new vaccines out. She was up to date with everything so I asked if she had any specific concerns. She was casually asking to see if she could vaccinate her gay adult son against homosexuality. Very nice, always had a smile on her face, even when I broke the "bad" news to her.
KDBA ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 01:58:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what it says about me that the thing that bothers me most is that vaccines are preventative, so even if one did exist you wouldn't give it to someone you already know is gay.
IcedJack ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 07:22:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It probably says you're not too surprised by examples of homophobia, and value factual information. So good on you, mate.
jhsorsma ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:06:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not homophobic, just desperate for grandbabies.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 03:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have given her an empty syringe and told her to inoculate herself intravenously.
iynque ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:58:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems at least as harsh as killing someone for being gay ๐
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being gay isn't a choice; being a piece of shit is.
iynque ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 05:24:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think a strong argument could be made that she never made a choice to think gay people could be somehow medically cured. At the very least, I wouldn't go for "kill her for her ignorance" as my first course of action. Maybeโฆ try to explain it to her first?
Nope. I'm gay, and that lady sounds like a decent person who unfortunately has misconception about homosexuality. If my own mother was like that, I'd be perfectly fine because 1) at least she understands that being gay is not by choice. 2) she's not desperately seeking the cure.
Patient comes to ER, 19 year old male, I'm getting his history. Why are you here today? "Every morning when I wake up my stomach hurts." How long has it been hurting? "All my life." Well what is different today that's made you come here? "My girlfriend doesn't think that is normal." More questions, exam by ER physician, lab tests. The abdominal pain always goes away after he eats. Always. He wakes up hungry. He thinks it is pain.
To be fair, I have had hunger pangs so strong I would call them painful, like a 6 on a scale of 10 painful. I can't figure out what makes my hungry stomach hurt so much on certain days. I fast 2-4 days occasionally, and it doesn't hurt as much during the fast as on these weird days. Maybe he has that sort of pain every day?
Friday9 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:20:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. And the pain causes nausea which kills my appetite.
...My body has some issues.
A_Drusas ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:16:52 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have acid reflux, which can cause nausea when my stomach's too empty. Vicious cycle! Solution: Don't get hungry.
At first, for health reasons. There are some studies that suggest eating fewer calories extends your life or some hooey like that. Then I saw that House of Cards ep where the gay Russian activist fasts for 10 days in protest, and I started wondering how long I could go. Turns out it's 4 days if I have to work and live a normal life (i.e. Move around and burn energy a lot). Now I do it for 2-3 days just to reset my overeating habits 2-3 times a year. I'm getting better slowly, and I think fasting to become comfortable with the hunger feeling is part of that progression.
My daughter was confused about stomach pain vs. hunger. I finally realized this when she was 5 and had stomach flu; she'd start begging and screaming for something to eat (which I refused), vomit a few minutes later, then feel better. That helped me realize she had frequent stomach pain and I eventually figured out she's sensitive to dairy and gluten. Cut those out and started a re-education campaign to help her learn hunger vs upset stomach.
This is funny to me because I think my dog confuses hunger for belly ache. She eats grass when she's hungry. It never makes her puke. I feed her after the walk and blammo. She's fine.
As someone who has lupus, fibro myalgia and is double jointed (leading to my joints, what's left of them, constantly dislocating or partially dislocating themselves from everyday activities) not to mention many old ballet injuries that never healed properly, the fact that they think hunger is pain is laughable. There are a lot of people who if they spent a day in my body they'd have a new perspective
My Uncle John (now 84) lived on a farm for 3/4 of his life. He never went to the doctor, all he ate is what he grew / slaughtered, drank well water (untreated for years), etc.
Eventually, he was taken to the doctors by my family, now that we don't live at the farm house anymore.
He was riddled with tapeworms. He had no idea. The dude could eat like 4 plates a meal. We always thought it was because he worked so hard. I'm sure that attributed to it, but still. It was the tapeworms.
Physically, he was ripped. Absolutely a pile of muscle on a skeleton, wrapped in leathery, sun-dried skin. Incredible shape for an aging man.
Now that the worms are gone, he's fat and has diabetes.
Poor Uncle John. :(
Edit: other than being fat and having diabetes, he's pretty healthy and lives a good life. He's being taken care of by my mother, who treats him well.
The one where Fry ate an egg salad sandwich that he got out of a vending machine at a truck stop and it gave him worms that fixed up his body and made him more intelligent. S3E2: Parasites Lost.
_Keldt_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I actually found it myself with a little googling. I do actually remember that episode now.
Mad_Mab ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone knows a good site to download/stream futurama episodes?
He probably could eat about 3 plates worth now, if we let him. Fortunately, his diet is controlled pretty well. My mother takes good care of him. She let's him get away with it on holidays and such, because food really makes him happy. Who are we to deny that from a man who busted his ass his whole life and just asks for a little bit of happiness?
He's such a great guy, and like I said, aside from the diabetes and weight gain, he's doing really well. Farm life is all he knows, so my mother got him a chicken coop with a dozen chickens. He takes care of them every day. He even mows the lawn still, sometimes. Of course, it's because he wants to, not because he "has" to. And my mother controls that stuff, too. His body is 84, but his mind is 40. He is always wanting to push himself too far. Haha, such a great guy.
Too many people try to do it the wrong way around, they don't take care of themselves when they are young and try in vain to get in shape when they see old age creeping up on them.
Beta1548 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. My goal is to take great care of myself until I make it to the national average life expectancy (which is what, about 78 for men?) then after I hit that point I am going to be the most gluttonous bastard there ever was.
From what I've learned on the internet, you are incorrect. The amount you eat and any exercise is irrelevant because your genetics determine your exact weight and any doctor that disagrees is oppressing you. /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
over eating is the leading cause of gaining weight.
Yeah right, next you're going to tell me that the Earth is round and that pineapples grow on the ground. Get out of here
There is more to gaining and losing weight than simple quantity of food eaten. Lets say you require 3000 calories of food to maintain your weight. I can make you gain, or lose weight depending on what sort of food you eat, it also depends on the person.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not so certian that it was actually the tapeworms that made him so fit, because I know how hard he worked. He could have done that all on his own. However, I do feel like the tapeworms are what made it so that he could eat so much, and still want dessert afterwards.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's still a superhero! If anything, he's certiantly my hero. Literally the most active elderly person I've ever known. And of course, theres tons of stories I have with him from growing up...Such a great guy.
I'll ask his permission, if you're serious. I really think that people would enjoy his story. He's had a really crazy life, and is pretty much the closest thing to a saint in real life.
So the takeaway lesson is, tapeworm tablets are my next naturopathic shield against diabetes and obesity. I just knew the "establishment" was keeping some golden nugget from me.
This always gives me a chuckle. At least they were sanitized!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:10:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Helminthic therapy could be a thing in the future. Basic thought is that, because parasites have been so ubiquitous evolutionarily, we've co-evolved with them to the point that improved hygiene and a lack of parasites makes our immune system confused. Same might be true with the systems in the body responsible for metabolic regulation, where it's been proven that gut bacterial flora affects it (one of the seminar leaders I had in an infection course said he basically considered the gut flora to be an endocrine organ). Evolution is fascinating stuff.
Fergom ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:43:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i got a crazy new treatment for him. How about we give him tapeworms
tavissd1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is serious research suggesting that some parasites are more symbiotes - that hookworms may help prevent autoimmune disease, and some other may aid in pregnancy. Both these ideas weird me out:
Nobody said he was incredibly unhealthy. He's 84. If the only health issues I have by the time I'm even 70 are just weight and diabetes, I'd be a happy, happy fat guy.
He leads a very active lifestyle for someone who is nearly a century old. He mows the lawn, tends to the chickens, walks the dogs, all kinds of stuff. He does it because he wants to, by the way. Not because he has to. These things are what really makes him happy. Farm life is all he knows, and damn it, he's good at it. It's a shame to watch him not be able to do the things he loves anymore.
But yeah. He's still healthy. Controlled diet, exercise, etc...he keeps his health problems as little of problems as possible.
Pretty sure if I told him you said he was "incredibly unhealthy", he'd punch you in the face. :D
After losing the tapeworms, he would have had to vastly restrict his diet, or getting fat would be inevitable.
arenalr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, sounds like it might have been best to let him live out the rest of his life with them in. But then again, I'm sure there's more to it than this
Damn, I find this hard to believe. Don't they know the whole back-country tapeworm cure? You get good & hungry, then fix a plate of collard greens but don't eat them! Hold them up to your mouth until the tape worm is lured by the smell of food & starts heading up your esophagus. As soon as possible grab that fucker by the head & yank it out!
(I honestly don't know if this is a rural urban legend or not but it was told to me in all seriousness.)
wouldn't the tapeworms also give him chronic diarrhea? you can't just eat a pile of food and not gain weight and it turns into sparkles in the sunlight or something. the mass of it has to go somewhere. and if you're not digesting it, out it goes.
Actually, yes, there's a sad story to go along with that.
The farmhouse was owned by my Uncle John and his Brother Jim, who I didn't really know before he passed away. Also, he's an uncle by marriage, not blood, so this doesn't get confusing. My grandmother was married to Jim. Jim passed away, and my grandmother effectively took over the house. My uncle John's unfortunate bathroom problems led to my grandmother essentially forcing him to use the bathroom outside. There was an outhouse about 300 feet from the main house that he would walk to, every time he had to do his business.
We love uncle john very much, but there is also a great deal of pain in our family history. My grandmother was incredibly abusive to Uncle John, because she believed he was mentally retarded. Having grown up on the farm, he was not literate. He couldn't read or write, and had a hard time speaking up for himself. He basically gave up and became her slave.
I know this all sounds super whacked out and difficult to believe, but none of it is fabricated. It's just really...unfortunate.
If the only side effect to having tapeworms was weightloss, the whole world would be doing it.
There are plenty of problems that come along with it, such as chronic diarheeah, bacterial and viral infections, and the possibility of worms getting into other parts of your body, such as your brain.
I wouldn't recommend it.
-zara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you grow to be late-60's full of tape worms it may actually be better to leave them in than try to change ones dietary and exercise habits at that age.
Renyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is an idea that because we have co-evolved with parasites, completely eradicating them can cause problems. There was a study done where sine patients with gastrointestinal problems were given parasites (pretty sure it was tapeworms) and most of them improved.
Organak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is the plot to a murderbilly song
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am simultaneously disgusted and amazed
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually an evolutionary theory called the Old Friends Hypothesis, that could explain your Uncle John.
The idea is that because humans evolved to deal with helminth parasites, our body expects them to be present in some form and freaks out when they are absent. Helminths have a huge influence on our immune system (it's how they prevent the immune system from killing them off). Without the helminths present to suppress the immune system (natural or expected state), you end up with a hyperactive immune system leading to autoimmune or immunomodulated diseases like asthma and diabetes. Of course, some helminths cause disease and are problematic. The idea is that (like gut bacteria) there are also some 'old friend' helminths out there that you don't want to get rid of. Or you end up like your Uncle John.
Cr3s3ndO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Body builders HATE him! Simple farmer discovers 1 weird tip to getting RIPPED!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure that attributed to it, but still.
Contributed. Just so you know!
The appetite can be attributed to his hearty lifestyle, so the lifestyle contributed to the appetite.
If you're eating a low amount of calories a day, and having weight issues and/or dealing with constant hunger, and not dealing with a medical condition (thyroid, ovarian cysts, etc.), eating healthy is the right option.
If you're eating a lot of calories, eating healthier can help you not feel so hungry, which helps you eat less. But you're right that unless you also eat less (or exercise more), you won't lose weight.
And the "exercise more" is an option. The most anyone is on record for eating over an extended period of time is Michael Phelps, leading up to his first Olympics. At the time, he was on a 10 000+ calorie diet, and literally spent weeks doing nothing but swimming, eating, and sleeping, with a little hygiene time in between.
Edit: added a point about medical conditions. Thank you /u/dynamojess.
I have friends who talk about how they're going to exercise more instead of eating less. That's only an option if you're already in peak physical condition, though. A regular person will drop from exhaustion before they burn 10,000 calories in a day. If you're plotting to lose weight by exercising instead of dieting, chances are good you can't maintain high impact aerobic exercise for half an hour, but even if you manage to do it without blowing out a knee or something, you've only burned around 300-400 calories, or about 1-2 cookies worth.
You would be surprised how much of a difference even a little exercise will provide.
Current estimates are that fat burns about 2 calories per day per pound, and muscle, 5. This means that if you add a once-a-week exercise routine that burns 350 calories (50/day, on average) and in the process add 2 pounds of muscle, you will eventually stabilize 28 pounds lighter: 30 pounds of fat lost. The only issue is the speed: 10 weeks for the first pound lost.
Probably the best way to lose weight (if all you care about is losing weight, and not the whole "living healthy" thing) and keep it off is a short-term diet to lose weight quickly, combined with an exercise routine to keep the weight off.
I think you're missing some units from your "current estimates." Also, the best way to lose weight and keep it off is to adopt healthier lifestyle habits, not a crash diet with an exercise routine.
I don't see how the math works out in your example still, even with the units. If you lost 28 pounds of fat and gained 2 pounds of muscle and were burning 350 (plus 10 from the muscle) calories more than you consume every week, you'd have a net calorie deficit of 304 per week, and you'd lose a pound every 3 months or so.
In real life though, it is trivially easy to eat an extra 350 (or 3500) calories if you're not paying attention to what you're eating. Exercise is extremely important for health, but it's not really an effective way to lose weight, and more importantly, people who want to exercise without dieting want to do that because their diet is bad and they don't want to change it, so they're likely to have much more than a 350 per week calorie excess, and they're also more likely to reward themselves for working out with food.
(edit) if you lose 30 lbs of fat, not 28, your calorie deficit using your numbers would be 300, not 304. Still losing about a pound every 3 months.
350 calories/week is 50 calories/day. Given the current approximation that 3500 calories is about 1 pound, that means it will take 70 days - 10 weeks - to lose 1 pound.
However, having lost that pound, you will now only be short 48 calories/day; meaning it will take about 73 days - 10.5 weeks - to lose the next pound. The one after that will take 76, then 80, and so on.
And those times are slightly optimistic: it's not like you magically lose the pound at the end of that time.
My apologies for switching between days and weeks there.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:40:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're actually consistently eating a low amount of calories, you cannot be having weight issues.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:59:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Kkaze882 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to jump in here.
That biggest loser study is a steaming pile of "Scientist wants to get famous so let's invent a conclusion"
They invented, and I'm not using hyperbole or anything, they literally invented a new way of predicting what these obese people's BMR should be using the biggest losers starting BMR as their only data input. Which, btw, is retarded. Calorie expenditure is way out of wack for morbidly obese people, they burn even more calories than there size would suggest and these people built a predictive model on the outliers of society whilst ignoring the 10+ other predictive models based on massive population studies??
There is so much more wrong with that study, and as a grad student it pisses me off to no end seeing a group butcher science to get theirs names published in a newspaper Excellent Blog that goes into more detail
zodar ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:44:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to the point that they were only burning about 800 calories a day
WTF? That's not even close to accurate.
The group as a whole on average burned 2,607 calories per day at rest before the competition, which dropped to about 2,000 calories per day at the end.
Six years later, calorie burning had slowed further to 1,900 per day, as reported in the journal Obesity, May 2.
1900-2000 calories per day is perfectly normal. That study was publicized to make fat people feel better about not trying to lose weight.
This. When I read the science on how drastic weight loss shifts metabolic rate, it made so much more sense.
I lost a large amount of weight about ten years ago. Ever since, my "maintenance" calorie needs (with moderate exercise, walking a few miles a day) are about 1200 a day. More than that I gain weight. Less than that, I lose weight, but it's VERY hard to cut calories when you're already only eating 1200 a day for maintenance. And I'm semi-OCD about food tracking - every thing that enters my mouth goes in the log.
Well, almost everything. ;)
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anyone here has been on the Biggest Loser and has a medical condition due to it.
There's the obvious problem with your statement: anorexia and low body weight are "weight issues", and are caused by eating a low amount of calories.
However, eating a proper mix of micronutrients can help metabolic rate, which can result in losing weight despite no change in exercise routine or caloric intake.
Now, a person with poor micronutrient intake and low caloric intake isn't going to be 300lbs, but that doesn't mean they won't have issues with weighing too much.
False. Many medical conditions do not allow you to lose weight even if you are on a low calorie diet and exercising. First one that comes to mind is PCOS. Source, am overweight female with ovarian cysts. Watched weight climb for the last decade despite regular hard exercise and a low cal diet full of fruits and veggies. Had softball sized cysts removed. Now eating more than ever and dropping weight.
it's hard to when trying to go to smaller portions and not snacking as much only for the lack of food to cause you severe stomach pains to the point of needing to vomit
twlscil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you need to eat food higher in fiber... I would also suppliment with psyllium husk powder or metamucil. Makes you feel full...
You may also have GERD if you are overweight, consult with your doctor or try taking some OTC acid reducers such as Pepcid AC.
FGHIK ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I could... but exercise is boring, and unhealthy food is tasty...
Because it's way easier to just consume a parasite that will consume all food for you which causes you to lose weight while you can just go about your normal Victorian or Edwardian era business without doing anything else?
I mean if you ignore the downsides or just aren't aware of them, it sounds really awesome. Just swallow this worm and you can eat all you want and the worm will take care of all the calories for you! You don't have to do anything except kill the tapeworm eventually, if you want!
Clarification: That's just the logic, I'm not actually defending the use of a tapeworm. Don't do it.
Etherius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Just stop taking heroin. How hard can it be?!"
That's what you sound like. To literally everyone who is or has ever been overweight and struggled with it for years.
I would never eat a tapeworm, but I DID take 2, 4-DNP
Hey I've been overweight too and now find myself overweight again after having a kid. I didn't mean to come off like that and I do know the troubles of struggling with weight. I've never ever even considered a parasite, I know the only way and to keep it off is a healthy balanced diet and some exercise and that can be a hard mentality and lifestyle to maintain or even start.
People have actually died from intentionally swallowing tape works for weight loss. I freaking hate the thought of neurocysticercosis... I mean... Worms in your brain... Ew.... But I still think burning to death would be worse.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:26:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it depends on which species of tapeworm. The most common species in the western world is Taenia saginata which doesn't cause cystercercosis in humans (it does in cows). Taenia solium does though.
I always heard the legend of the guy who had digestive troubles, so he swallowed the tapeworm, traveled to India, at spicy foods for a year, then came back and had the tapeworm removed. Supposedly cured his indigestion.
Yes you can. It can actually help in some situations, at least according to preliminary studies. For example, give people with Crohn diseases' immune system something useful to do instead of attacking their own intestines.
I used to work in a locked psych facility and one of the residents had psychosis because a tapeworm ate part of his brain.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is quite literally the thing that scares me the most. Like if I shat a segment of tapeworm I'd probably freakout so hard I'd give myself a heart attack. They'd have to sedate me. Scared out of my mind to the point that I will for sure have nightmares about it tonight just from reading this.
Etherius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well when they bridge the 100 lb gap between "healthy body weight" and "fat enough to be a candidate for lap band" there will probably be far fewer people seeking out parasites to lose weight.
If they swallowed the worm while it was a larva, it wouldn't go up to the brain, it would just sit in the gastrointestinal tract and munch on food and surrounding tissue. If the tapeworm was T. solium and was in egg form, then they would get neurocysticercosis.
Natolx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only the pork tapeworm causes those issues. The cow tapeworm is technically "safe" other than the malnutrition it causes, and the possible bowel obstruction if it gets large and tangled.
Honestly if they made tapeworms with no downsides id be fine with one hunkering down in me eating my spare food. Allow me to eat whatever I want in whatever quanitity and be skinny just to let some fellas hitch a ride? Sure
scolfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lost a good ten pounds those times I got giardia. At least I think I had giardia. I rode it out before I got around to getting tested, and the wedmd description sounded closer than other types of gastric distress/gastroenteritis.
mecaenas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People will go to any lengths to avoid having the self discipline to put the fork down and eat less.
Well, if you're worried about neurocysticercosis, you could always just swallow some beef tapeworms. It's still not a good idea though.
Rekayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that word! It means worms in the brain! I learned it from Grey's Anatomy. I'm a doctor now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can remove a leg or two to lose weight too. That does not mean it is a good idea.
Blurgas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been forced to watch Monsters Inside Me.
Nope. Nope. Fuck all those little bastards. I will bathe everything around me in thermite if I suspect one of those nasties is nearby
This actually was a thing a long time ago. They would sell diet pills that contained tapeworm or their eggs or something and people would take them to deliberately infect themselves and use them to lose weight. My grandmother told me about it years ago.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No idea wtf that is, but you'd have to be retarded to swallow worms to lose weight in the first place
SweelFor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told by a college professor (who was dean of the science school) that med students often gave themselves tapeworms as "pets" so they could learn the symptoms and treatments. It has the benefit of causing weight loss, and (as I was told, not saying you're wrong) was "mostly harmless". Is this simply untrue, outdated information, or what? If it was true, I've always wondered why they weren't used (at least more publicly) in a supervised manner for high risk bariatric patients.
Not a doctor, but I'm a former Special Forces medic and I treated indigenous populations in Iraq, Afghanistan and several other Middle Eastern countries. Some of the patients and their families asked incredible things of me, such as putting brains back inside after an explosion took half the head off, but I have never been as incredulous as when I had to explain "wrong hole" to a very old tribal elder who was wondering why he couldn't father any children.
Some of the patients and their families asked incredible things of me, such as putting brains back inside after an explosion took half the head off,
This sounds more like denial over the violent loss of a loved one than lack of understanding of how things work.
JustVan ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 04:49:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, if you're an uneducated 3rd world person where people regularly die from diarrhea and finger cuts, and you suddenly meet these people who can cut off infected legs and replace them with machines, or can restore eye-sight, etc. you probably honestly do not have any idea of what the limits of their power actually are. Sure, you know you can't fix it, but you also couldn't fix a blown-off arm or leg, either, and yet they can. So... why not at least ask. If they can take out an old damaged heart and replace it with a new one, who knows maybe they can fix brains, too.
That's a good point, I didn't consider that. But I think most people, once seeing something that horrifying have that knee jerk denial reaction of "You can fix it right?" I mean I have a friend who found her daughter dead (blue, cold and stiff) one morning and when the cops got there her first reaction was "We're going to the hospital right?"
JustVan ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:34:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... That's a sad case of denial and just... extreme hope.
The other thing is that this sounds absolutely crazy right now, but a couple hundred years ago and everything we're able to do now would've sounded just as crazy.
The brain is the last area we really need to work out, in 100 years it might not be as crazy to suggest we can simply repair parts of it.
Yes I believe it was more of what JustVan is talking about that denial. The denial came after we packaged her up and handed her back. That is when the classic displays of denial kicked in. Up until that moment, there was a look and feel of optimism in their eyes. They were excited to have gotten her into my clinic and to this day I truly believe they thought I could fix it.
What's really sad is how a border can mean the difference between a understanding of medicine and a complete lack of knowledge in the aspect of the human body. Iraq and Afganistan are both bordered by Iran, where my grandparents live...there there is modern medicine in the major cities (a year or three behind the US and Europe due to sanctions and no chemotherapy..[Iran does not have a good relation with nuclear tech...], but otherwise pretty modern stuff) and all but the most remote and religious have a good grasp on basic health and are within 3 hours drive of a hospital.
I am not an expert on Iranian medicine...American medicine, diffrent story, I can name the most popular manufacturer of MRI's and CT scanners; however, I'm not too sure about IRI. I believe some form of medicine regarding radioactive Isotopes are sanctioned
Another thing to consider, simply being associated with us was a dangerous proposition, much less coming onto our compound and receiving something valuable from us. This was the height of "the surge" in Iraq and things were pretty fired up.
This family put themselves at great risk by doing so. We didn't know them before it happened so they were sacrificing that level of disassociation by bringing their child into my clinic. If they didn't truly believe there was something we could do, it would have been much more likely for them to take her elsewhere, lash out, or exhibit denial in another way.
I was wondering if it wasn't just as a burial thing, many cultures want you to be intact when buried, I am not sure of the Islamic stance just a guess.
The only things I know about Islamic burial practice are that the funeral should happen as soon as practicable and that burial at sea is not recommended.
iznotiz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you do one of those super-duper one-hour DNA match things first.
You are correct, although I don't remember the age exactly but he was definitely 45+ with multiple wives. I won't say where, but I will say that it is common for young boys to be used as sexual pleasure and there simply isn't a taboo against anal intercourse there whatsoever. I believe he had grown up in a privileged environment, relatively speaking, and had been using people for sexual pleasure into adulthood and had neither had "the talk" nor any reason to receive it. It wasn't until his empire of influence grew to the point that he was concerned about handing it off that I think he started wondering why he didn't have children yet.
You're welcome. From our perspective, I agree with you. From theirs, it didn't surprise me at all.
mjt1105 ยท 3456 points ยท Posted at 00:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom tells it so much better, but here's a try:
My mom was the head nurse at a clinic here in Houston in the 80's. She worked for an old WWII doctor that had gone into private practice (old school GP) when he returned back to the states. Well one afternoon she told me that they had a patient come in that was running a high fever and was complaining of pain in her pelvic area. Mom also tells me that there was a stench coming from the woman's lap that could only be described as enough to Gag a maggot off a meat wagon. She begins to interview the patient who told her that her and her boyfriend had been sexually active and that she has been in pain since. She thought that the woman may have contracted an STD and asked her to undress and wait for the doctor to examine her. The doctor arrives and closes the door, only to re-open it a few seconds later mentioning about the need for fresh air.
The doctor noticed that there was a vaginal discharge began to question the patient about her sex life, was it protected, non-protected, etc... According to mom, the patient told her "No doc, we always use a rubber." The doctor looked down then noticed that there was a small rubber band extending from the woman's vagina. The doctor reached in with his gloved hand and pulled it out. What came next can only be described as a magician pulling the magic cloth out of someone's mouth... one rubber band after another came out over the course of the next 10 minutes. Finally once they were all removed, the Doctor had "the talk" with the woman about sex education and that rubber bands were not a successful contraceptive and not what they meant by "wearing a rubber" and then wrote her a presecription for Abx.
Tldr: Mom was a nurse who had a patient use rubber bands as a contraceptive device who ended up with a severe infection and required medical attention to get them removed.
Theral ยท 344 points ยท Posted at 06:38:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's disgusting as hell, but I wanted to comment mostly because you used the phrase "Gag a maggot off a meat wagon", which I've never heard anyone but my dad say. Funny to see it in the wild.
I watched part of that (Norwegian?) series that's up on YouTube and learned a great deal about women and I'm a very active 22 year old. It's amazing to me how much the American sex ed system failed me.
Great sex ed for children imho.
Maybe she should not touch the penis so much or dive under it to squeeze the "sperm" out of the bottle so much...
But I guess a 8 year old will laugh his ass off.
Malarooo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree education is important, but in today's Information Age there is no excuse for not doing a little bit of research to how things work. That's just ignorance. People need to take some responsibility in how their body works.
You're still relying on people having some amount of internet literacy and common sense.
Think of all the joke answers that occur in AskReddit, or how is babby formed. And think of all the people that still believe the shit written on fake news sites non-liburro meedia outlets.
I think that no matter how much sex education improves, somebody this stupid will continue to not get it. I was raised very conservatively, and even just through TV and movies, I picked this much up.
Did you notice that, that story took place in the 80s....
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:43 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christian here living in the Bible Belt. Please for the love of God teach the kids about proper sex Ed. Burying your head in you bible is not going to keep your kids from boinking each other till the cows come home.
I agree that proper sexual education is important, but in today's society with all the access to information, keeping yourself in such naivety is just stupid. At some point, people should want to do research to want to know whether or not their guesses are good ones or bad ones.
deltora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American sex ed is so prudish.
I learned almost nothing from it, then a few years ago I found like a German sex ed video that literally demonstrated masturbation.
I never got that lesson.
Do you think any education system exists that fixes this level of stupid? Some people are just incredibly dumb. The good news is that most of them are happy.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 07:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to make some snide remark and link to a picture of rubber bands chained together, but Toxic Shock Syndrome tends to suck the fun out of things.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:23:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...you can't get TSS from rubber. TSS is caused by not having sufficient mucus In your vaginal canal. This is why tampons are directly linked to TSS, however menstrual cups and diaphragms have 0 association.
TSS is caused when a bacterial infection migrates into the blood. It's essentially a specific type of sepsis. The source of the infection itself is irrelevant. It is most commonly associated with improper use of tampons because their use is fairly common. However, improper tampon use is not the sole cause of TSS.
At the "next 10 minutes" mark I had to put my phone down, cover my face with my hands, and slowly come to terms with the fact that this happened. God bless that doctor and your mother. Also H-town represent!
I...I don't understand. Rubber bands? What the fuck were they doing with rubber bands? I know I don't WANT to know what part of the visual I'm missing but...WHAT???
Rath12 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:36:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He put rubber bands on his dick cause he thought that's what "a rubber" was.
I know. @_@
whittiez ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 07:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like she just stuffed them in there to block the semen or something. I don't even know.
That reminds me of a story that a radiology tech friend told me. Short version is the patient needed to be told that mayonnaise is not a suitable substitute for lube.
craneguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is an ex-nurse and she tells of a patient with similar symptoms. In her case though she hadn't been taking her tampons out after use and had a number of them impacted... She also described the smell as second only to a dead body that came in after being submerged for a few weeks.
01-__-10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one left my mouth open..
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar story, a doctor friend of my mom's told us about a lady complaining of "roots growin' between mah legs". TL;DR she forgot she had shoved a whole unpeeled potato up there over two weeks prior...
24pepper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a hard time believing this.... he was pulling them out for 10 minutes one after another? A vagina isn't THAT big and if they were having sex, I'm sure the guy would have complained about feeling them and they would have gotten in the way after so many times.
marklish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was reading this while eating my breakfast and all I could think of was is this is going to be another swamps of dagobah.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Enough to gag a maggot off a meat wagon
vomits
But A+ for making me feel like I was right there in the room.
the Doctor had "the talk" with the woman about sex education and that rubber bands were not a successful contraceptive and not what they meant by "wearing a rubber"
I dunno, wrap one around his willie at the base a few times. If he can't pee, he's most likely not going to cause any other problems. I can't imagine taking THAT off would be much fun tho.
My mom was a CPS worker in the Ozarks part of oklahoma. We have Hill people in some areas and its pretty fucked up. She was called to hospital in the middle of night because a 13 or 14 year old girl with downs syndrome was in labor there and she was obviously dirty and neglected .plus she had no pre natal care. So mom was called to hospital to interview girl so the cops could arrest her abusers and to figure out where she and the baby were going to go after hospital. Moms close with local OBGYN since they have a lot of unfortunate interactions. Moms in hallway outside of girls room when doc arrives, doc heads in to room and mom hears him exclaim to nurses ''get her in the shower with soap and shaved now!you'd better get her scrubbed good!'he came out of room red faced mad and shaking.
Doc explains to mom later the girl was infested with crabs and STDs and they were probably going to c section girl because of her age and not knowing what baby could catch exitting, including syphilis. He then went home and showered because of the lice and came back to do her c section
Long story short, girl was never enrolled in school , just had birth cert, no dental care or prenatal care and was her family's fucktoy and had no idea what was going on. Baby was healthy and developmentally normal aside from being deaf and was adopted out of family and had a normal life . Mom is her facebook friend and the girl with down syndrome lived her life in a group home then nursing home, had a sheltered workshop job helping old church ladies make caps /quilts for preemies then as a greeter at the same hospital and a normal life for her situation. Her normal daughter kept in touch with her as an adult. Parents of girl with DS were meth cooks and got 46456466875 years in prison
As someone who only recently turned of age, but luckily had out-of-school sex-ed, I have a LOT of friends in the state who ask me questions about STIs and contraception because I know more than they do--- Naturally I remind the that I'm not a doctor and shouldn't be a main resource, but CHRIST Texas needs some help.
"Abstinence is the only way" is not sex ed. It's just not.
Had to explain that brushing your teeth with Comet ( the cleaner ) was not a good way to clean your teeth to a 40 year old woman.
Also had to tell a woman that painting her teeth with white finger nail polish was a bad idea
kt-bug17 ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 03:28:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw an episode of My Strange Addiction where a woman would eat a little bit of Comet a couple of times a day (this behavior arose due to sexual abuse during her childhood; eating Comet made her feel 'clean' inside). The show had her go see a dentist where she learned that she had to loose all of her upper teeth and most of her lower teeth due to the damage the Comet caused.
My friend's dental hygienist told her the bleeding in her gums was probably caused by her birth control. She asked the dentist and he was like, nooooo.....
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:34:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nail polish often does have formaldehyde and other stuff you shouldn't be ingesting. Its bad for you as well. If you swallow it it will fuck up your liver.
inucune ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*to the tune of bridge over the water kwai: "comet...it makes your teeth turn green!
Comet, it tastes like gasoline...."
MadAeric ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
vizard0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids song from elementary/middle school. Like Miss Susie or The Wheels on the Bus or I'm Bringing Home a Baby Bumble Bee. You probably learned different songs.
I truly believe a lot of men go through their own form of menopause -- they have hormones too, and when hormones change with age, the body and emotions change.
I had hot flashes not long after I turned 40. Turned out to be low testosterone. Andropause is real. The doc put me on meds and it drastically improved my life.
Did you run some (hormone) tests because obviously it concerned him?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:45:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I described my semi-conscious preseizures as "hot flashes" to my mom, that was kind of embarrassing. Consider in the future that someone describing mysterious hot flashes might be having seizures.
Not funny at all. Men can have high estrogen levels (usually 50+ age) and if estrogen levels drop, they can experience hot flashes. Btw, high estrogen is a primary cause of male breast cancer.
I had to explain to a grown man I still work with that tampons don't break down in a woman's urine after they were finished using them. He's been married 12 years. It was not his best day.
Every time I see these threads there is some hapless dude who doesn't know anything about periods/female anatomy and I have two feelings about it: on one hand it's genuinely exhausting that sex education is terrible and boys don't hear about this stuff from their female peers even though girls learn about male anatomy (prime example, young teen girls are shushed out of talking about periods even when young teen boys are happily cracking jokes about wet dreams and dick cheese); on the other hand it is fucking hilarious that any dude would think tampons dissolve inside women, Jesus Christ.
andybmcc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:05:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it would be nice if they broke down at some point, obviously longer than someone would be using one. I had a lady roommate that apparently thought it was OK to flush her twat cotton. I always had a lined trash can in my bathroom for such occasions. I'm not really grossed out by it, wrap it and toss it in. Fast forward to weird plumbing issues. The poor dude that ran the machine to unclog my main sewage pipes pulled out so much god damn cotton. We both kinda looked at each other when he hit gold, and he knew that I knew that he knew, but not a word was spoken.
Oh I dunno. I had a massive argument with a friend once about 24 hour disposable contact lenses.
He was adamant (which is why the massive argument ensued because it devolved into me calling him an utter bellend) that you just leave the contacts in your eyes and that they FUCKING DISSOLVE OVER NIGHT and then y0ou just pop in a new set...
Nothing would convince him otherwise, we had several people pointing out the many problems with dissolvable lenses, the least of which being leaving residue in your eyes, but he was having none of it.
In all other respects he was a perfectly intelligent guy in his early 20's. Apart from his steadfast belief in fucking magic disappearing contacts.
I had to explain to a male friend in college that women used more than one tampon per period. He thought we put one in at the beginning and took it out at the end. He never understood why we were always buying tampons if we only used around a dozen a year.
hoocares ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 05:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The truly worst/most disgusting/omg no whyyyyy part about this is that some women did used to do just that. There were even tampons marketed specifically for this purpose before they were linked to illness. Manufacturers didn't start putting warnings about Toxic Shock Syndrome on tampons until 1980. I don't understand why anyone would want to do that though, even if they didn't understand the infection risks.
I asked a co-worker once if she had some hygiene products I could steal, she said she only had overnight pads, she liked them because you could, "wear them all day without worrying about changing them all the time". Blorf.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:10:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this blorf? If you wear an enormous pad then you never have to worry about changing it. I mean you can change it if you have to pee at some point in your day, but you never have to specifically go to the bathroom just to deal with your period. Some people don't have to pee for a whole workday, in which case I think it makes lots of sense to just wear a big pad and not have to enter a bathroom for the day..
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:58 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Late but I do sometimes have to go to the bathroom just to deal with my period.
Atario ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Less maintenance = better, simple as that
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get physically ill if i use tampons. I mean throwing u p and skin looks greenish.
I will only use them under greatest of need for an hour tops.
Told my mom this recently and found out one of my much older 1/2 sisters had TSS from. A tampon left in overnight and nearly died. Im 34. I needed this info 20 years ago
Tzipity ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the boxes actually say 4-6. Though I'm sure we've all gone longer especially at night or while sick. I'd be careful going much longer than 8 though. They recommend using the smallest absorbency you can get by on so if you're fine going to hour 12, you could probably go lower (which decreases your TSS risk). I have fairly light periods (but really severe PCOS so I'm miserable anyway) a lot myself and my own anatomy works in a way I usually don't actually drip so at night if I'm laying down I often just skip tampons entirely.
I'm jealous, I have to get up in the middle of the night to change or the sheets look like a crime scene. That wasn't true before I got an IUD.
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:46:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes. Like I said though, as light as my periods are they're wildly disablingly painful. And I can't tolerate BC (really should look into an IUD but my luck I'd end up with what you described) so there's nothing they can do for my polycystic ovaries. I've been told my ovaries are about triple normal size. I can rupture cysts just bending over or once I was yelling at my cat. Also ended up with ovarian torsion (my ovary had twisted around twice on the Fallopian tube). Holy hell is that some pain! Had hospital repeatedly trying to insist I had just ruptured a cyst but I couldn't walk and was screaming in pain so bad that they'd come hit me with some IV pain meds to the point I was so looped I'd fall asleep instantly only to wake back up from the pain a little while later (this also fucked me over then when they finally operated because my pain med tolerance was so high that what they gave me in the recovery room was like injecting saline, didn't do a thing.
So yeah, I mean blood messes suck for sure, but I wouldn't envy me. People without ovaries, I envy them.
KinseyH ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:45:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They removed all my internal lady parts when my daughter was born 15 years ago. I don't miss any of them.
I didn't even know ovarian torsion was a thing! Sorry to hear about that, hope your situation improves.
tlamstm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:07 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got an iud a few months ago. I had debilitating cramps. Like, bedridden for at least 2 days with heating pads and such every time. Now my cramps are much more manageable and I barely bleed. I used to go through almost an entire box of super plus tampons every month. It totally depends on which iud you get and how your body handles the hormones/copper in them.
It feels like the thin mucus membranes of your rectum are adhered with their own spit to a large fuzzy cotton ball and you are trying to rip it out, with your membranes still insisting on clinging to every fiber of the plug, tugging your internal organs slightly and making you wonder if you should pull it harder and get it over with, or let go and risk it being stuck forever, and either way you might die, as you are awkwardly crouching over a very grimy rest-stop toilet with your pants soaking up a puddle on the floor
ben7337 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:59:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a gay male who doesn't know or really care much about female hydeinge for obvious reasons, this is actually a very interesting thing to know. I figured tampons were a daily thing over the 3-5 days (I'm guessing here) or so most women have a period, not something every 3 hours for that range of time, that would easily be 6 a day for 3-5 days or 18-30 a month, that's a crapton of tampons per female per month.
Before I got on birth control I'd use two boxes of about 20-30 every month for 7-8 days. $16 a month for tampons and had to use pads too because my life was dumb and tampons weren't enough.
Like you probably care to know ๐ but yes, Craptonnnnnn. But now I'm on BC and I only use half a box of 50 for a 4-5 days. And no pads.
Again, like you'd care ๐ but I figured id follow up with good news ๐
ben7337 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:00 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good to note, always good to learn new things. I'm glad men don't have to go through all that stuff though.
There were even tampons marketed specifically for this purpose
TIL... ewww.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:44:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The superabsorbent properties of Rely caused vaginal dryness by absorbing the natural humidity of the vagina. Often this led to ulcerations in the vaginal wall when the tampon was removed, offering pathways for bacteria to infect the bloodstream.[2] Further, the tampons' superabsorbency meant that the viscosity of vaginal fluids was enhanced, providing a good environment for bacteria growth.[3]" -Wikipedia on Rely Tampons
Why the Fuck would anyone put up with that? Only having to change your tampon once isn't worth cutting up your insides or increased risk of BV.
I had a long distance boyfriend once that I went to visit for a week and I had started my period and he had like half a roll of toilet paper. Total. In his whole apartment. And I told him that he needed to get more toilet paper. And he just did not understand why half a roll of toilet paper was not going to last me a week on my period. I was like this roll of toilet paper WILL BE GONE by the end of the day. Here is $5, go buy as much toilet paper as this will get you.
Oh and he also didn't have a trash can in his bathroom (which, of course, is essential equipment for women). So fine, we'll just leave a plastic bag in there to put the used period stuff in. He tried to tell me that was gross and I was to not leave that in his bathroom and to take it out and put it in the dumpster outside, or like wrap it up so he never had to see it. Told him that wasn't happening.
He also didn't realize quite how much shampoo would be needed for my hair either.
No! He definitely had at least one girlfriend before me (and he's had at least one after me). Can't remember how many now. He was way more worldly and experienced than me too (or at least he seemed that way to me at the time). It's just another one of those things about him that I am never going to understand. Of course the possibility remains that he was lying his ass off to me, which is entirely possible because he was very convincing and I really couldn't tell if he was lying or not if I actually heard him say it. Guy was an asshole, he wasn't lying about that.
Me too! I've already forgotten how many years it's been. 8 maybe? Maybe I'll forget his name one day too lol
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:57:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Understandable mistake, I guess. I learned most of what I know about tampon usage by reading the back of my mom's tampon box whilst sitting on the shitter. I also used to cut those little tampon insertion diagrams out of the pamphlet that comes in the box and leave them in people's textbooks, etc.
This makes me think of the scene in OITNB where Sophia has to give the ladies a mirror because they think they must pee from their vagina because "There's only one hole"
A cousin of mine legit thought you urinated from your clitoris. This was someone in their early to mid twenties . . . and NOT male. I blame shitty health ed.
For real though, I was 18 or 19 when I realized where the urethra was. I thought I was well educated too, took anatomy classes and saw plenty of diagrams (that never labeled the urethra because they were about "reproductive organs" only lol), but because I vaguely knew about things like males having nipples despite no use for them, I thought that the female urethra would be in roughly the same place downstairs... Because clit = dickhead :( I hate the lack of education.
I didn't realise that the urethra was so close to the vaginal opening to begin with. I knew it was there somewhere but I thought it was inside the inner labia, between the clitoris and vaginal opening.
I don't know, because pee feels like it comes from roughly the same area as the vagina and it definitely doesn't feel like it comes from the clitoris.
KinseyH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it does come from roughly the same area. They're quite close together.
I can see how, if you've never had to see a urologist and you receive sketchy sex ed, that you wouldn't discover this on your own. I've had bladder and kidney issues since I was a baby, and I've been putting my feet up in stirrups since I was 4, so I was always familiar with my downstairs architecture. But that's not something someone should be expected to just figure out on their own.
I was best friends with a woman who, when we were children (around 14 or so for me and around 16 for her), absolutely did not believe that women had urethras, only men. I was the source of most of her "sex ed", as my parents educated me on it very early and hers did not much at all. She wouldn't believe me until I showed her MULTIPLE - as in seriously, one was not enough - diagrams and images showing that yes, we have urethras. She thought we urinate from our vaginas. Really.
There's a horror story about some dude fucking his wife's urethra their entire marriage. Doctor was wondering why the wife was getting constant UTIs and then she started asking questions about why sex was always so painful...
Yeah but I've met women who don't know that, so... yeah. Basically we need to teach biology better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:11 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that's not a completely unreasonable assumption for a younger guy to make. For sex ed being as crappy as it is/has been, I mean... they've only got one hole.
I didn't know I had two until I was about 19, so no judgements.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:41:41 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think when I was around 12, my mom gave me a small series of sex ed books. A lot of it was wishy washy like "when a man and woman get married..." and "if they decide they want to start their own family..."
I think they redeemed themselves by following that with actual biology without being too graphically descriptive.
The only sex ed I got in school was "boys have penises and girls have vaginas. That's why you don't share bathrooms in school, but it's ok at home because many people don't have two bathrooms."
Dafuq?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:59:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was pretty common among young lads to talk about wet dreams, accuse each other of having them, and so on. tbh you probably went to a better school than I did; most people did!
Kamilny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:18:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was tons for dick cheese, but wet dreams I just learned about in sex ed but no one really talked about it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they had a girl before me, but I guess that's possible
newbris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an Australian bloke and I had to convince my adult Canadian sister-in-law that the urethra and vagina were different holes. She seems normal in every other way. Hope no Canadian dude learnt off her :)
That's so weird.
I remember being taught at 12 about the female anatomy and being explained what everything does.
The sideways drawing clearly shows the bladder isn't connected to the reproductive organs.
FikeMosh ยท 227 points ยท Posted at 01:50:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to reveal my male ignorance with a question:
You can leave a tampon in while you pee, right? Because it's in the vagina and not the urethra.. or does the pressure from its presesnce in the vagina press on the urethra and make it hard to pee? Or maybe you take it out so the little strings don't get wet? So mysterious.
Yeah you leave it in while you pee, if it's not pushed up far enough it can feel like you're going to push it out when you pee, but if it's in right you shouldn't feel it much if at all. And you can position the string so that it doesn't get wet.
I am 27, I'm definitely not an idiot. (Or, shit, maybe I am).I have had my period since 11 years old, I've have the Mirena IUD and have given birth. I have a chronic genetic bladder disease that requires regular trips to a uro-gynecologist. My point in saying all this is that I am familiar with my lady-bits. But, your comment blew my mind. I am aware the urethra is different from the vagina, of course. And, maybe it's just my lack of following up on menstrual advice my mom gave me at age 11. But, I always thought it was kind of unsafe to use the same tampon after peeing. I always change them after I pee. Also, I have to be careful about using tampons for too long because any disruption/bacteria near my urethra causes my bladder condition to flare up and this is especially so during my period; it's the worst during my cycle.
I had no idea it was totally fine to use the same tampon after peeing. This may be gross but does the tampon ever soak up urine when you do this? Surely urine will pass "through" it or around it when you pee. I am so confused and feel dumb! :(
Urine can't pass through a tampon or around it because, like you said, the vagina and urethra are literally different holes. The only way a tampon can soak up urine is if the string gets wet and the urine then absorbs into the tampon. Positioning the string away from the stream of urine makes removing the tampon totally unnecessary. So say you just changed your tampon an hour before, but you have to pee. Unless you have an ungodly heavy flow, there would be no reason to change your tampon in order to go to the bathroom. Just position the string so it doesn't fall into the stream.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:49:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine to leave it in there and go (as long as the string doesn't get wet.) However, you should NOT take it out then put it back in. Just in case that's what you're thinking.
Honestly you may be exacerbating your infections by changing your tampons so often. It's terrible to do that when it's not full and able to pull out pretty easily (take a look at my profile and see the very last comment I made before this one).
I've never heard anything about it being unsafe to use the same tampon after peeing and can't really think of any reason it would be... The only time I've ever gotten urine on a tampon was when I first started using them as a teenager and they weren't pushed up far enough, if they're in there properly, there shouldn't be any way for urine to be anywhere near the tampon.
The urethra sits above the vagina, so unless you somehow succeed in peeing up inside yourself it's completely safe to pee and keep on using the same tampon. If I were you I'd be sure to keep the string well to the side or back so it didn't get any urine on it if that makes your condition flare up though.
Have you Googled what the lady parts looks like? Because it kinda sounds like you have this image in your head that the urethra sits almost inside the entrance to the vagina, which it doesn't. I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to inform so you won't have to waste tampons. I use a cup and would highly recommend it, but to each her own amirite? :)
200Tabs ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:55:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I personally put my string til the side. I kinda tuck it between my outer labia and my leg so it gets held in place there, away from the steam
Diannika ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:10:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
here is another (gross tho it is) thought.
As long as you keep yourself clean, and barring it bothering your conditions (As i know you said you have issues anyway), Urine is sterile. As long as its just a tiny bit (and you change your tampons regularly anyway, which everyone should), if the strings do get slightly caught by your urine, its not a huge deal. So i wouldnt be to afraid of missing it and therefor changing your tampon every time anyway just in case. Still try to keep it out, not saying dont. Just saying dont be paranoid about it :)
however, IF you can, a cup is a better option. Nothing hanging out to get caught in the stream at all :D
Urine isn't actually sterile but it only has low levels of bacteria that wouldn't cause harm, (That's different in the case of someone with a UTI or other infection). Your comment is all great advice, I just thought I'd be that pedantic arse that corrects a minor point.
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'sall good :D
and i didnt know that, i thought it was completely sterile in and of itself (obviously, once its exposed to the world anything goes). So thanks for the info.
Changing the tampon is more likely to introduce infection and contaminants when you urinate than urine itself is to worsen your chronic infections.
Urine is, barring existing bacterial infiltration of the urethra or bladder, extremely sterile by comparison to your skin. Putting your fingers near your vagina at all introduces a disease vector that simply leaving the tampon alone would probably not introduce.
lmolayem ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:24:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just hold the string out of the way and go, I only change it if it needs changing. This shouldn't be a problem but if you are prone to infections it won't hurt to be extra safe.
I'm not a doctor, but I've noticed that taking out the tampon helps me void my bladder more completely. You can pee with it in, but if you're going to take it out anyway, do it before you pee. I always take it out before taking a crap, then take a shower, then put another one in. It's the only way to be sure.
Avoiding sex during menstruation helped my bladder problems too.
This blows my mind because I drink a ton of water and pee about 9 times a day. Tampons last 8 hours so I change them 3 times a day. I would be spending SO much money if I changed it every time I pee! Did you know you can sort of push the string up in your vag so that it doesn't stick out and absorb pee? Obviously don't push it in too far but just enough so it isn't sticking out. Unless you pee stream goes all over the place every direction, there is really no need to change your tamp every time you pee!
Thanks! Also, do you get the same "full" feeling you get when it's time to empty it like you would a tampon or do you time it out, and does it leak? Sorry for all the questions I've just been considering making the switch but don't know anyone that uses them.
I know it's time to change mine when I feel the suction start to give, it's like a little pop and slip feeling, but it's very very faint. I can't really comment on the "full" feeling because I hated using tampons hahah
Honestly whenever I feel that I at least adjust it. In saying that, a cup thats still got a bit of a fold in it from insertion will spring out when the muscles relax, which is not entirely unpleasant tbh.
I think it's something you learn as you go, your ladybits play by their own rules. I definitely recommend anyone new to cups wears a panty liner to start with, just in case though!
I don't feel it when mine's full, and I know the feeling you talk about in regards to tampons. I have only had it be full to the point of spilling over once though as I have a very light flow. I usually only empty mine twice a day when I'm on my period, as it's okay to have it in for up to 12h (I've had it in for longer without it causing a problem though, but it's not recommended).
If I were you I'd make the switch and be sure to get one that is pure silicone without any bright colour. If you have a heavy flow there are larger cups, and vice versa for lighter flows. It took me two periods to get used to the whole process of it and I very much recommend research if you're ever unsure of how to use it or store it and sterilise it and such. Google is awesome when you need more info on different types of folds for example.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just recently switched to cups and I admit, I know exactly when my cup feels full. It's almost like it's leaking, like a feeling when your pad is overflowing past capacity. I know that generally the average size can be enough for your entire cycle, but if you're like me, who has a very heavy flow during the first few days, I'd advise caution and get an L size.
Also, I get a weird gurgling noise and apparently I read this is a sign that it's full and needs to be emptied. Generally, a cup can last you 6 - 12 hours. I totally recommend it cause it's so freeing! I feel like so comfortable - except the bloating and cramps but I can't escape those.
Diannika ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:14:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just so you know, you can also get disposable cups. I still reuse them a few times, cleaning in between (usually no more then one day... 2 if im super super broke and only have a couple left) but you can empty them in the toilet and dispose of them like a pad and use a new one. Useful if you are going to be out all day or are on a trip and dont want to have to clean your cup in that/those locations (or when you just DONT have access to a sink in stall)
Thats awesome! I had no idea those existed, thanks!
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no problem. I use(d) Instead Softcup. (its been a long time, since i had 2 children in the last 3 years-ish and havent moved past pads yet since the last. tho double checking the name for you, i found out where near me carries them (my old store doesnt) so i may be back to those next month :) Can't WAIT. I hate pads :/
I go between pads and the cup, sometimes I just don't want to put the cup in :P
Diannika ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeh, its certainly not the EASIEST method to apply...or remove, for that matter. Which is why i havent gotten back to it yet. wasnt worth the hassle to find em when i wasnt sure i could use em yet. But its been a year since my last csection, i should be able to manage now :p
(to clarify, the csection before that, the drs messed up the incision. The most recent one, i actually felt better a week after the csection then i did when i had gotten pregnant a year after the one before, so whatever they did fixed it mostly. But i still have some issues in the area they messed up, so i tend to be SUPER careful with it)
I'm fairly certain you can find perfume free ones, or hypoallergenic/safe cleaning for things like this. Worth looking for at any rate, would be a damn good market for it.
Just don't touch the basin if you're that worried? Everything gets washed down the drain anyway (assuming they weren't raised by wolves). Tbh it would probably still be cleaner than the door handle.
I try to not let my dick touch the inside rim of the toilet too but it happens. When I'm washing my dick and hands after I shouldn't have to worry about blood diseases hanging around the sink.
I need to find a source, but you probably have more chance of catching something from the toilet rim than the sink.
Also keep in mind that blood borne diseases need direct blood-to-blood or blood-to-mucus-membrane contact to spread.
I promise you I'm not trying to be a dick nopunintended but I would honestly be more concerned about the faecal matter on your phone, the door handle, the towel dispenser, the rails on the trains and stairs, bodily fluids on train seats etc.
Edit: I'd also like to add that you're being unnecessarily aggressive
You're clearly not open to reasoning or have little idea about how viruses survive outside the host, or you would just rather ignore it. Perhaps you have an anxiety or other mental health issue, who knows?
I mean if we are throwing cups of blood around it should be open season right?
catby ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take it out, dump it then wipe the inside with toilet paper and pop it back in. I'm pretty efficient at using mine now, but it took a bit of practice when i first got it. My first cycle with it i hated the damn thing but i had spent near $40 on it under the premise that it would save me money in the long run, and goddammit, i was hell bent to get it to work. Went online and found some groups about menstrual cups (there are cup subreddits) and learned how to use them properly and some tips and tricks. Been using a cup for 7 years now and i absolutely would never go back.
This is my exact story, going on 10 years and about to final buy my second one. I use a Diva Cup, and need to move up a size.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:22:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a menstrual cup and quite honestly I've never been in the situation where I absolutely NEEDED to change it in a public restroom. You only need to change it once or twice a day. So you can usually just wait until you're home to do it anyways. That's why it's so convenient!
And in situations where you do have to change your cup in a public restroom-- say one that has stalls with separated sinks -- you can empty it out, use toilet paper to wipe the cup down, then reinsert it. Afterwards you can just use toilet paper to open the stall door and then proceed with wash your hands. Menstrual cups aren't as inhibiting as most ppl think they are. They're actually super convenient, plus they aren't time sensitive like tampons :)
You and I have ridiculously different experiences with menstrual cups. The only way I got around them being time sensitive was by finding underwear with a built in pad that holds multiple tampons worth of blood. Otherwise, the cup would fill up when I was out of the house, and act like I had nothing at all.
200Tabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a heavy flow and experience that on day 2 (fibroids and PCOS!). Must other days are the more common change rate. I'm liking the wipes idea now that I see it but what I've done in the past reputed a lot of prep if I was using a public restroom. I prepared by getting 2 large portions of the paper to dry hands and dampening 1 then folding both discreetly and entering stall. I put the dry paper on top of the metal or plastic casing for the toilet paper and put my cup on top of that. When I was ready for reinsertion, I wiped the cup with the dampened paper, reinserted the cup, and folded the damp paper into the dry paper. I'd check over the paper to make sure that no blood was showing and then discarding either in the pad receptacle in the stall or the main garbage in the restroom, depending on the grodiness of in-stall receptacle. But most often, I just use a private restroom at work
I normally just don't bother to wipe it out in public restrooms. I just dump the blood and put it back up there, then clean my fingers with toilet paper until I get to the sink. Not a long term answer, but good enough for "I'm still 6 hours away from a private restroom, and this is overflowing now.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just use toilet paper to clean it out when I'm in a public restroom.
siassias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The poster below explained it pretty well, but it's also worth bearing in mind that they don't need changing as often as tampons. Some people just empty their cup at home in the morning and evening. Obviously it depends on how heavy your periods are, but it's something to think about. I rarely empty mine more than once while I'm out the house in the day.
I bought these wines called Wysi Wipes. They start out as small dry tablet like things. Take up hardly any room in a bag. When you put water on them they expand to be a disposable towelette. So I take that into the restroom, put water on one before going into a stall, and use it to clean out my cup in the stall. I then just throw it away in the feminine product trash in the stall. No perfumes or dyes, no chemicals, and super simple.
If there's no sink in the toilet I sorta shove the bloody cup back in and pretty much cover my hands in toilet paper so I can pull my pants up, flush the toilet and open the door without it looking like a crime scene.
Oh my god that once happened to me! Luckily I was at home. It had filled up faster than I was expecting, so it was really heavy and sitting lower than usual. When I pushed to poop, the damn thing dropped into the toilet. So, what to do? Flush down the almost brand new $20 cup and destroy the plumbing, or reach into pissy, bloody toilet water? I feel like I washed my hands for days.
I've pushed so hard when I pooped that I pushed out my tampon too lol such a strange feeling.
AzriKel ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take em out cus I can't be bothered fussing with the strings to not soak them, but I know there are women who leave em in.
Tzipity ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intentional string tuck is way easier than removing it. Plus those things hurt if you pull them out before they're uh well saturated. Like dry cotton on dry vagina, ouch.
tehweave ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The important thing is that you were willing to admit ignorance.
And I'm not being condescending. I'm genuinely serious. I'm a man too and I honestly didn't know the answer to this either.
You definitely leave it in, you use different size tampons throughout your flow so you can remove when it gets full, but not have that take more than a certain number of hours (because that's when you're chances of infection increase. Also just being nasty, bloody rags up in there sitting around would just be nasty).
You want to wait till it's full because if you pull it out sooner, 1) it hurts, dry cotton doesn't really glide 2) because it's dragging you're more likely to open the skin up inside your vagina which exposes you to infection 3) once opened you're then leaving a bloody cotton rag next to an open (tiny, maybe, but still open) wound in a moist, dark, blood filled place (sound like a great way to incubate gram positive bacteria? Because that's how you get deadly bacterial infections that literally kill you within a day of symptoms) 4) the more you drag non-filled cotton swabs around your vag, the more tiny bits of cotton break off, and stay in your vagina, next to open wounds, collecting blood, sitting in a moist dark environment, you get where I'm going with this?
Anyway, that's why menstrual cups are a thing (and awesome if used properly), and why some women prefer pads or menstrual panties (both the squeamish factor and the potential irritation if you misjudge how long you need a tampon in four, or what size to use--and I hope you can get to the toilet in time once it's full because otherwise it's going to start getting bloody in your pants), and why if you say "period panties" to almost any woman she'll nod knowingly instead of cringe like you might expect her to (black are the way to go ladies, it can't stain what's already full of dark dye. Not visibly anyway).
The string is a definite problem though. Thankfully pee is sterile so if you get a bit on the string, wiping normally with toilet paper will get most of and the rest isn't a big deal unless you're an untreated diabetic, and then the sugar in that bloody moist environment...well, you get the idea.
But if you remember in time, you can also just grab the string and tuck or hold it forward and to one side (like pull forward and hold next the the skin, so it's parallel with where the clit is). And then the pee didn't really it it.
200Tabs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This post was both educational and frightening at the same time! I tried tampons only a few times in my youth and encountered both the dry, painful removals and the overfilled states and noped them out of my life. My discovery of cups were life changing.
I'm glad! I started finding out about this stuff after college and basically had a "my education has completely failed me" moment. Women literally die from this shit and it's not even mentioned in mandatory sex ed courses where we go over changes from puberty.
I'm 30 and I just now stopped flushing mine. Sometimes I still do it out of habit. My mom did get her period and I didn't have anyone to ask questions to, so I naturally assumed that they were meant to be flushed. Yes... I saw the signs in the public restrooms but just thought that they were for pads.
Dauchy ยท -45 points ยท Posted at 03:26:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flush them down the toilets, just like literally everyone else in a first world country?
Way back when, in the long, long ago I knew this chick on an online forum she regaled us with a story of how she stopped flushing her tampons.
Basically the tampons caught on the buildup inside the sewage pipe, one tampon led to two tampons which led to a clogged pipe. Her parents called a plumber out to fix the problem and it turned out that the plumber was from her family's church. She had a bit of a crush on his son who happened to be working with his dad on that particular day, so she decided to hang around and maybe flirt a little. Well they eventually found the problem and her crush pulls out this huge, stinking wad of wet rotten tampons right in front of her.
She said that church got really awkward after that. Oh and she stopped flushing her tampons. Actually I think she got a forum full of teenage girls to stop flushing their tampons that day.
Uh if you use so many tampons that you fill up four trash cans a day you have a problem. No seriously you should see a doctor because that is so not normal.
Also you should google what the inside of a residential sewer pipe looks like. Aaaaand maybe read up in what flushable wipes and tampons do to sewage processing facilities. Hint: the workers have to unclog the machinery and they HATE you.
Dude, you're not supposed to flush them! You're going to give someone a $1,000 plumbing bill when you wreck their ejector pump! Wrap in TP and throw away.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:04:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but "wreck their ejector pump" sounds like a really funny euphemism.
I agree with the plumbing part but can you explain the environment part? How is it sitting in a landfill different than it being flushed?
Edit: I'm honestly just wondering guys. No need to downvote for just asking a question.
meggggg ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 03:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally don't know anybody who does this. It's terrible for plumbing.
It is terrible for plumbing, but a lot of people do it anyway because they don't know. My mom taught me to flush my tampons, which I continued to do until I moved out.
Bullshit. I hardly doubt you don't know a single soul that doesn't flush their tampons. Considering almost every single woman menstruates, you surely do know someone.
While I get it isn't great on plumbing, it's utterly revolting to ME to see someone's dried, crusty, scabby-look tampon floating around in my trash can who didn't have the decency to wrap it up in toilet paper. I am more than happy to let my friends flush their tampons when they come over. As a matter of fact, absolutely do flush them.
I flush mine, too. But, I have Mirena and only have a period for, at the most, 2 days. I'll take the risk of "terrible plumbing" issues by flushing all 4-6 of the tampons I may use.
I understand trying to reduce the idea that periods are "gross". But, quite frankly, I really don't want to ever risk coming in contact or touching someone else's blood. Period, end of story. Especially if comes from someone's genitals. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to worship your menstrual cycle (not that you said this) and it's okay to think the sight of clumpy vagina blood is not really appeasing.
My mother and my school both taught me to wrap your pad/tampon in toilet paper before putting it in the bin. If somebody doesn't wrap their tampons or pads and puts them in your bin you should just call them out on it. They'll never do it again. You will regret not doing so when you have to pay thousands to fix the plumbing.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:24:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DeskRef ยท 3876 points ยท Posted at 01:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother helps the Amish get dental care. One Amish woman complained that she needed new dentures. When asked why she thought so, she replied, "Well, I've lost weight, and you know that when you lose weight, you lose it in your gums first."
Doctors and dentists: if you're looking for a community to serve, the Amish can truly use your help. I could write a book about the things I've seen.
drchase16 ยท 577 points ยท Posted at 04:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dentures
That's actually not as ridiculous as it sounds. Many elderly people deal with weight loss, due to a number of reasons. As a result they tend to lose muscle mass in their mouth/jaw and it often leads to dentures not fitting properly.
Dentures tend to be very expensive and are usually not covered under insurance, after receiving your first set. This can lead to further exacerbation of issues relating to eating and further weight loss. Kind of sad...
DeskRef ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 04:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea. This woman was about 30, but I'll have to share that with my mother.
movzx ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:26:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kind of imagine Amish people with perfect teeth due to the lack of acidic soda, heavy sugar diets, etc. What did this woman do to lose her teeth at 30?
Some still practise the "pull everything out around age 21 so you can make dentures of your own teeth and avoid expensive dental stuff later" tradition.
Folk medicine usually doesn't make much sense in the long run - but I guess it's better than buying teeth from FSM-knows-where, especially in the corpse-robbing days (aka the Resurrectionist era)
blammer ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:55:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jfc is this really a thing? That sounds horrible..
Timeyy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:26:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a thing until the Victorian era - once ether was invented it tapered off. But some (sub)cultures still practise it and that may be what happened here.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably would honestly recommend this.
Ferelar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... to your worst enemies?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:47:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. I'm from the south. Dental insurance is expensive. Having your teeth made into dentures sounds like a hassle free toothcare plan.
South doesn't have much to do with it, more like poverty and lack of anaesthetic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dental insurance is cancer level expensive too. It actually crossed my mind to do this simply because of the benefits of denchers being that I would save money on dental care.
It's about 20$ / month here (Florida) to sock enough away for when you have a crisis, and most doctors do discounts and payments if you're plain with them. It's better to keep your own teeth if you can. Hope it works out for you!
[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 07:25:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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movzx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured carbonation would be against the rules because it's a "pleasure that serves no purpose" (my basic understanding of why some technology is allowed but not others).
As others have said they pull them all. Idk what the real reason is but back in ye olden tymes where they get just about every other belief they have it was a sign of prosperity to have your teeth pulled at a young age and have dentures. It was even a wedding present for some.
It's because before modern dental care having your teeth pulled all at once was far easier and less painful than decades of your teeth rotting one at a time.
Kirboid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why everyone says George Washington had wooden teeth?
DeskRef ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neglect. Her children (in elementary school) were the first in their family to have dental care, and they taught the parents how to brush their teeth. Dentures were an inevitable part of life for many. Hopefully, things are improving.
diothar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:13:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually there is a diabetes epidemic in some of the communities up in Pennsylvania. Not enough farm land, so they take up other jobs and are a bit more sedentary than they used to be. Their rich foods are causing problems with decreased exercise.
DeskRef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her children (who are in elementary school) were the first in their family to get regular dental care, and they taught their parents how to brush their teeth. So, it has a positive (?) ending.
This! I've mostly seen this with elderly in hospice or those about to be at that stage. Eating often becomes painful at that point, partly due to denture problems. It then becomes really difficult to make sure the resident is getting the nutrition they need.
Absolutely. I've worked in nursing homes and in hospice and it's very common for dentures to stop fitting right. Also somewhat common was people falling asleep on their back and we would walk in to see them mouth breathing with their dentures loose and in (seeming) danger of choking them. Also x2, very common for people to fall asleep with dentures, have them fall out and get lost in the bedding. Nothing like shaking out the sheets and having teeth and glasses go flying across the room.
I've never experienced the sheet flying phenomenon. Most of the residents I've had on hospice start to refuse their dentures. I've always made a point of asking and making sure my trainees knew it was important to ask even if they refused the last time.
Yup, you're not wrong. It was always impressive how, when the state came in, we suddenly had proper staffing and everyone followed protocol. Soon as they were gone, it was back to a cna:patient ratio of 1:16 and the admins encouraged us to care more about speed than quality. Sigh. Believe me, I see where you're coming from. I'm not excusing it, merely remarking on it. That was years ago when I was more naive.
Oh trust me I know. I switched to working at private assisted livings a long time, generally the patient to care giver ratio was better and there was a better mix of people who needed little care to the level of people on hospice.
ImElkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah or maybe ya put people in a bubble with Jesus for 400 years and they come out fucking retarded
Rpizza ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 02:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So share some here ...
DeskRef ยท 267 points ยท Posted at 04:19:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Briefly (because I'm working), they love salves, and there's a salve I found at an Amish store that purports to "cure AIDS." Let that sink in. They don't educate their children beyond the eighth grade, but they have a cure for AIDS. (TBH, most of these stories are just sad. I have a cat because some Amish boys found her on the farm and wanted to see if she would land on her feet when thrown from a roof. I intervened and kept her. It's hard knowing they don't believe animals should be pets, so they don't know how to treat all of them properly. )
There's also a grisly, unlicensed roving "dentist" in Southwest Michigan who travels to Amish communities and pulls teeth. That's all he does. He gathers a group outside one of their houses, puts up a bed sheet, and pulls teeth. For any reason.
Are there black Amish people? Like I doubt they have a rule about it or anything, but it would be interesting to see how they handle that, given what I know about their philosophy
Yes, Amish are very accepting to other races and ethnicities and are sometimes adopted in. Not often married in though as people are not willing to convert.
Source: raised Mennonite and baby sat by Amish neighbors.
To be fair, the animal abuse is less of an Amish thing
I'm fairly certain OP wasn't saying "the Amish are solely/primarily the source of animal abuse" but rather that, as one culture among many in humanity, certain values in that community lead to a higher rate of animal abuse than others,
DeskRef ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:58:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate got her cat because she was behind someone in a major road in Houston who threw the poor cat out of a window while going like 45 miles per hour.
The cat is pretty beat up but he's the sweetest thing ever and he gets along great with my big gallup of a Labrador retriever.
I was driving down this windy and very busy highway in the foothills in a section where there was 20ft high rock on both sides a mere foot from the white lines. People were slowing down and when I got closer I realized why - somebody dropped a cat off in the road with a bag tied around it's head. Terrible.
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My understanding is not so long ago that sort of thing was common practice even outside of the Amish community. I mean I have a 95 year old grandmother who I think she dentures at an extremely young age (she was 21 when she had my mom and my mom says she never remembers her mother with her own teeth). Both my parents are in their 70s and have some early memories of just having teeth pulled (for my dad the dentist did it without anesthetic and BROKE HIS JAW, at least he was immediately sent to an oral surgeon but I imagine that kind of thing still is happening then in the Amish community).
But most cringeworthy story I ever heard is that my mom's father who was kind of a strange guy anyway used to pull his own damn teeth. He'd drink some alcohol, get a rag, yank em out in front of his traumatized children. Eep!
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, goodness, that made me shiver. Yikes! I can't imagine.
About the Amish, I suspect it's changing. As someone else mentioned, the younger generation knows more about health care and seeks it out. So, they probably have proper anesthetic, etc. But then, there's still the roving tooth puller, who doesn't have to avoid malpractice or follow procedures...
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad it's changing. But sheesh that roving tooth pulled guy sounds horrific. So glad though that the younger generation is learning and seeking better!
My aunt got her first cavity in her 20's, had all her teeth pulled and dentures made so should wouldn't have to deal with the dentist.
She Was molested by a dentist as a kid, but still.. teeth are pretty great.
My cousin actually did some work with an "Amish" doctor. The doctor himself wasn't Amish, but the Amish are a very tight knit community who only trust and seek the advice of a medical professional they have thoroughly vetted. My cousin was seen as an outsider until the doctor himself spoke with the village elders (idk if that's what they're called but I'm blanking on the proper term) and gave them his personal commendation of my cousin's character and credibility.
It was a really cool thing for him, he found it so interesting and still visits the families he worked with from time to time.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great to hear that he gained their support and is able to help them. They need more compassionate English (their term for non-Amish) people.
I'm an Audiologist and patients who lose a lot of weight often have trouble because their hearing aids don't fit properly any more. So the denture thing doesn't sound like such a far stretch to me.
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goodness, I didn't know that. I'm learning so much about weight loss from this thread alone.
My grandfather owns a dental lab where me makes dentures and other implants. This is a very common occurrence in the elderly, especially the sick. They lose mass in their gums causing their dentures to fall out. Resizing is something he has to do often
Can confirm this is true. Losing weight can affect the fit of dentures. You have to remember, these suction to the roof of your mouth. Something as small as a grain of sand can cause a sore the size of a quarter. Even the slightest change, like that from weight loss, can be aggonizing.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:14:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something as small as a grain of sand can cause a sore the size of a quarter
Please excuse me, I have to go brush my teeth forever. Eesh.
You'll have to help the men first, then the boy children, then the girl children. In that order. If there's any time left, help the women. That's how they roll in that particular cult.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A noble, yet highly uneducated people lol. All the Amish people I see around here are kind, quiet people. Sometimes I see the male teenagers doing cool shit like riding horse and farm equipment like a war chariot
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome! And it's true. People are people, and they vary like any community. But, there's a wry wit among them. And sometimes I forget certain things are foreign to them. When my family visits Amish friends, we tone down our clothing out of respect. But once, in the summer, my mother wore sandals and forgot about her bright pink pedicure. She wondered why the children kept watching her feet. Well, because toenails aren't normally pink! They had a laugh about that.
My husband and I live in Amish Country Pennsylvania. He used to work in a pharmacy and they served a woman who came in to buy for a couple of Amish families regularly. He told me each time she'd buy dozens of tubes of yeast infection cream. Every month, dozens and dozens of tubes that these women requested. There's a lot of basic wellness, especially sexual wellness, that their communities tend to be poorly educated on.
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly that. I'd be interested in knowing more about his experience as a pharmacist in that community. Did the Amish lady have any apprehension about ordering such a sensitive item, or was she very frank about it?
I'm not sure, it was an English lady (they refer to all non-Amish as English) who did shopping for Amish families. So basically these families would give her lists of what they needed and this woman would run out and get it on scheduled days, then charge a delivery fee. A lot of Amish purchase things you get from stores like pharmacies this way to save the time a buggy or scooter trip would take, but I do wonder if part of the reason for sending someone else could be to avoid the 'shame' associated with buying personal items. Especially those of the genital related variety.
I work with Amish folks sometimes. They are hilarious. Great sense of humor. Ruthless business folks and wacky as fuck. They all seem fairly intelligent in spite of not having much of an education.
Set part is since they don't grow up with phones their phone eticate is hilarious. They just hang up when done. No goodbyes most of the time.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! And you're right, there is a wacky sense of humor. I wish more people got to see the lighter side of their culture.
moxpox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How receptive are Amish people to getting treated by doctors and dentists?
DeskRef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, I'd say they are quite receptive to care, but don't always seek it out. And sometimes they don't know to. There have also been instances, in our case, when dental offices have been rude to them, which can be discouraging. It comes from lack of exposure on both sides. So, having an advocate to go with them to the doctor or dentist is very helpful. They don't know how to navigate the system and illiteracy is still a problem, so it helps if someone explains what the doctor has prescribed, for instance.
Also, they need reliable English drivers to take them to appointments, etc. They often take what they can get in rural areas and sometimes their drivers are unsafe. There's no Angie's List for drivers, say. We subscribe to the regional Amish newsletter, and there are stories of accidents caused by impaired (intoxicated) English drivers. It's so sad. Anyway, that was more than you'd asked, but I thought I'd share. Thanks for asking!
I live in Amish Country. As someone who grew up helping them in their fields for years, I agree they need so much help in the medical area. Most new age do go to doctors but the older sects are still in the house-call-only-if-you-are-on-your-death-bed stage.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly - - and I'm glad you mentioned that. Access to care is improving, but the need is still there. (Working and living with the Amish, I bet you've had some excellent food.)
I lived right over the hill and after picking whatever crop was done, or working in the stables, we'd get some delicious meals! My dad's step mother was amish from the northern part of our state and her dad broke away during Rumspringa, she passed on some amazing recipes to my mom and I'm still trying to get them down because most aren't supposed to be written, they're scensed.
Any idea if the Amish need a social worker/therapist? Sign me up.
DeskRef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like the kind of good person they need!
I'm very sure most Amish communities need both, particularly a social worker. They also need someone to help them apply for social services.
Many are unfamiliar with the process, and illiteracy is quite high. For instance, my mother helped a family apply for government assistance. It's hard to document income when they don't keep records of transactions. The family had sold a buggy, and they needed a record of those proceeds, which counted as income. Anyway, there's a way to determine the value of the buggy, but it was needlessly difficult. So, in summary, they need help getting help.
Edit: I also wanted to add that they need help avoiding child neglect. There's a knowledge gap, I think. The parents are largely very devoted to their families and aim to raise their children well. But, I don't think there's enough education about childcare and children's needs. A poultice will not cure everything. (And don't get me started on children's education.) I know terrible stories about accidents that didn't need to happen and injuries that went untreated. I know a little girl, for example, who didn't need to lose a finger the way she did. It's heartbreaking. They need more resources.
Thank you for your confidence! It definitely is heartbreaking to know that there are entire communities of people who are having these issues but there is so little said about it outside that culture. The only times I ever hear about the Amish is when someone wants a recipe or wants to talk about a culture they consider weird or other. Thank you for spreading information and having a good heart for these people, though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:34:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to read that book.
sebast13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather had brain damage that left him partially paralyzed. He initially lost ~120 pounds at the hospital and his dentures didn't fit anymore. I hear it can be due to change in jaw muscles.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. And I had no idea weight loss had this kind of impact.
I was a newly minted graduate with fresh and optimistic views on my life as a doctor. Second week in came this old lady and her very dysfunctional family.
They would argue and complain about everything, from the food, the nurses they didnt like and every single medical decision we made. She was very very sick so her management was just as complicated.
She had several children and they all didnt like one another and would not talk to one another. Each time we would have to explain a long update to every single one of them because they "are entitled to hear it from a doctor".
One of these stories being sitting down and explaining why you don't give gatorade as an IV drip. They did not understand why we were giving "salt water" to her.
Conversation with her son:
"Look she likes gatorade, she is drinking it so why cant you give it to her through her drip?"
We explain why.
Son frowns. "But its isotonic."
We explain again.
"Yes but gatorade has more electrolytes."
We explain again.
"Salt water just seems to be too cheap. Cant you give her something else closer to gatorade? That has electrolytes?"
Continues for two hours. Wash and repeat every day during her admission.
Afterwards I told my fiance. He opened up a scene from Idiocracy on youtube and I just sat there with my mouth open for a while.
ER nurse here...I was administering a bolus through a pump at 1200 ml/hr (fairly fast rate). The patient's 4 adult daughters stood around watching the drip chamber in awe. "It's going in good! her body is thirsty!"
No, that's not how IV pumps work. I realize it was a moment for patient education but I was just struck speechless, and so were my colleagues when I related this story.
Same family: I asked for a urine specimen, told them the specimen cups were in the bathroom. One of the daughters asked, "What if they're used?"
I really wanted to say, "Just keep diggin' till you find a clean one, lab will separate the pee out!" but I just looked at her and was like "They're new" in the most serious tone I could muster.
My GF had to spend a good amount of time explaining that IV fluid is clear and that just because you can't see fluid going in doesn't mean your IV isn't working.
I had a brief hospital stay a few months ago, and they had an IV in me for a few days. I could see the fluid moving because it had tiny little bubbles in it. I remember watching the IV tubes and spending a lot of time looking at the little bubbles in the tube thinking "Is my blood ok with having little bubbles in it? I hope they don't turn into a big bubble, I've heard that can lead to an embolism, which is supposed to be really bad, whatever it is. There's more bubbles... Why does it keep making bubbles? Stop making bubbles... Noooooooo, bubbles, why?"
I had surgery once as a kid, and they never told me ahead of time that the IV drug administrating thing would take up my blood first. I just assumed drugs would go DOWN into me. I started freaking out when my blood crept up like in some horror movie.
n3svaru ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 00:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its got what plants crave
daitoshi ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:55:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you've never seen plants grow out of a toilet
daitoshi ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:56:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ELECTROLITES POWERLITES MORE LIGHTS THAN YOUR BODY HAS ROOM FOOORRR
HL-21 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:08:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But brawndo has electrolytes
Arcian_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:58:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IT'LL MAKE YOU WONDER WHY YOU'VE NEVER CRUSHED A HUMAN SKULL WITH YOUR FISTS BEFORE!
daitoshi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:07:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SO MANY BABIES
Calander ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm baffled that he seemed to know the word "isotonic", but apparently not how that relates to electrolytes.
ciny ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 09:39:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm baffled that he seemed to know the word "isotonic", but apparently not how that relates to electrolytes.
"isotonic" and "electrolytes" were probably used in advertising. So he only knows the words exist but not necessarily their meaning.
tabatux7 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:57:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if reasonably indicated, you could order a banana bag or have the pharmacy add a multivitamin solution (which is typically yellow) to the IV bag. Something about that neon yellow color that sets certain people at ease. And looks like gatorade ๐
TIL lol. I work as registration in the ER and always wondered why some were yellow and some not.
I thought that maybe a patient was begging for medicine so they gave them a colored fluid so they would think its medicine.
Brawndo's got electrolytes. But do you even know what electrolytes are?? It's... What they use to make Brawndo!
Majus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:36:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have just switched to Hartmanns'/compound sodium lactate, cause its got more electrolytes. Problem being of course that they'll think they were right.
Sunlit5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should have told them that she wasn't a plant.
casparh ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never, and most likely will never, visited North America, but I get a distinct impression that this occurred in the southern states?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:00:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Add multivitamin to the bag - it'll make it look like Gatorade. :)
OK as I was reading this I was totally thinking Idiocracy!
tywren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:46 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brondo - It's got what plants crave.
jaZoo ยท 1340 points ยท Posted at 23:27:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While on dermatological rotation, a Middle Eastern patient saw me with what she described as some funny, itching growth in her butt crack. Some quick investigation revealed it to be a severe case of genital warts. I explained the diagnosis and that it was an STD until she shockingly assured that she was still a virgin. Now virginity is a big issue for young muslim women (or perhaps their families even more), but apparently that doesn't cover anal sex and therefore no birth control in the form of, say, condoms was needed.
EDIT: I thought I share another story but this time with a colleague being the one acting stupidly. This was when I finally made it to neuroradiology and in comes this mother whose maybe three, four months old son we would scan today because he had epileptic seizures after his birth. Apparently, the paediatricians didn't tell her about the fits nor the severe neurological birth defects they knew about for weeks so I had to explain her that her child had mental disabilities. That was probably the first time I flipped out on a colleague I didn't even know over the telephone and, in the heat of the moment, wanted to find this idiot and spit in his face. He was totally oblivious of how he fucked up, saying there was a language barrier while this hospital employs a whole department of translators just for such cases.
helm ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 09:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On bad information:
The only time I became pissed off at my local health care was when my then 3-year-old fell onto a stone tile by the fireplace and went out cold for ten minutes. We called an ambulance and got him checked. Nothing dangerous had happened, he was fine. We got no information or diagnosis on his injury. About a week later he vomits after an hour of watching a movie. We got to hear that "Oh, you let him watch a movie after a concussion? Don't do that.". Well, maybe the doctor should have informed us:
I got a bad concussion from being hit by a car and hitting the windshield of the car and then the ground. I was 17. They assumed that by telling my mom to just let me rest a lot and don't put screens in front of me that she wouldn't try to bring me to school. They thought I was way to out of it to even stay awake long enough to get there. They were wrong. When I saw the trauma specialist two weeks after I got out of the hospital they were horrified when my mom asked them for medicine that will help me not throw up every time I go to school because the school kept making her pick me up after a couple of periods due to my nausea, migraines, and falling asleep.
They freaked out that she was sending me to school and said I shouldn't even be getting out of bed. The worst two weeks of my life, no kidding.
I got a fractured skull from the same type of collision, and they advised my parents to make me stay in bed - and off school - for a month.
At the time, I was bored beyond belief, and just wanted to get back to my normal life. I never realised the alternative to bed rest would have been constant sickness and delayed healing. I was lying in my room all day - of course I felt fine!
Although I managed to get mono a few months later, and by that point, I was so sick of being 'sick' that I allowed myself a few days off, then forced myself to get on with life.
Muju2 ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 02:46:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the good old poophole loophole. Across culture and religion alike
Vaadwaur ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one thing Jesus and Muhammad agree on!
Klowned ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... Do Christians use "thighing" with their premenstrual wives?
I know Muslim practitioners do, but do Christians?
I've seen this reasoning in action in a few different bits of Texas
jaZoo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:25:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm not the one to blame them for their religious beliefs and customs. Unless they harm others it's their personal business. But it makes you wonder how bad their sexual education is at that point as if sexuality was a fairytale world full of simple rules and codes to follow. At least when it comes to STD, a little more information would be desirable.
God, that's a hard situation to be put into (the second story). A diagnosis like that can be hard to explain to someone when you're both speaking the same language. Sometimes people have to hear the same thing from multiple sources before they're ready to believe it. I was the third person to tell a patient that they had terminal cancer, but I was the first one that they even acknowledged having told them. It wasn't because the other docs were bad communicators or had beat around the bush too much, I don't think. Sometimes people just aren't equipped to understand a diagnosis like that the first time through. The other docs (in both of our cases) probably should have taken the time to be more certain that the patient understood the situation I guess.
jaZoo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:19:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's certainly often the case when patients don't understand the consequences of their diagnosis right away. But then again, it's my job to try everything so they understand. The moment they leave the hospital I don't know if they will take proper care so I should at least make sure that somebody else looks after them. However, I'm not typically the one anymore who has to deliver the diagnosis to the patient, so this is probably easier said then done.
How the hell did he decide to just not tell her because of a language barrier? This is just galling. Even if there wasn't a translator available, you call a local college or something and find someone. I would have flipped out too. What the fuck man?
jaZoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, exactly my reaction. This hospital goes great lengths to make sure that no matter what exotic language its patients may speak, there is either a translator at hand or it will call the respective embassy and get one.
Just to address the contacting a college point, HIPAA laws protect patient confidentiality so that's not an option. Still, this is why hospitals have translators, there was no excuse for this.
Would that be the case still if she agreed to it? I.e. "Are you alright with me translating what this doctor is saying for you so he can be sure that you understand fully?" I mean, what happens in emergency situations or when people don't speak a common language that would have a translator handy?
If the patient signs a release of information it's possible it could work, but it would be overly complicated to call a college or other business, ask to speak to someone that might speak a language (no way to know for sure), and then how do you explain to this 'translator' the situation without identifying the patient or their health problems? It is a very slippery slope to a very legally not-so-fun area and should really be avoided. This scenario would really never happen.
In a good hospital, they already have translators that people can call, so if you're using the phone to get a translator anyway, you may as well go with one that has been properly vetted and that is contracted with the hospital. If there is an emergency and you don't have this service available, as it seems it was with OP, you likely have larger problems that really need to be addressed. One alternative may be to have the patient bring in someone that can translate for them.
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 06:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting in another horrible way, as well - if a female-bodied person has vaginal sex for the first time, with no vaginismus or other condition, and is decently aroused/lubed, there will be no blood. Hell, the hymen doesn't usually cover the whole area in the first place, and is very stretchy, and can grow back if it's torn! So blood on the sheets is extremely unreliable and cruel, as it requires both pain and a dice roll on her part with no such investment on his.
I'm sure that plenty of gals in such situations are perfect virgins but don't bleed because they're naturally wet (or heaven forbid enjoying themselves with a gentle partner).
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:51:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Completely agreed. Personally I think the whole idea of virginity is antiquated and we need worldwide comprehensive sex ed. You'd think that would be evolutionarily supported... Guess not.
I've heard of them inserting, sometimes surgically, a small packet of oxblood that will tear on their wedding night. It seemed to be a somewhat lucrative but very secretive business based on the video I watched.
jaZoo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:30:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, that's also what I heard. To clarify, I'm in a major European city with a large, mostly well integrated Muslim community. So law is obviously way more liberal but you never know about implicit or explicit values within the family. I guess, once you acknowledge the (moral) system at play, the reasoning is rather understandable.
If you come from a backwards country and are living in a 1st world nation; then you must follow 1st world laws. Don't care what you believe back home. And if you don't like it? Well, there's the border.
I'm Indian myself living in India but if moved abroad I sure as hell not bringing the cultural baggage... ech!
Though to be fair I'm a liberal living in Delhi so not much punch there...
Apparently, the paediatricians didn't tell her about the fits nor the severe neurological birth defects they knew about for weeks so I had to explain her that her child had mental disabilities.
both your stories are so sad, but I feel even worse for the girl because like you rightly say, sex ed in the Middle Eastern culture is so lacking that I have heard worse stories than yours and I am not even a doctor. I think the worst of them all being the fact that the society vehemently denies that everyone, has extramarital affairs and/or has multiple sexual partners and that in addition to the religious teachings about sex, we need to talk about sex and STDs. Unfortunately, we get shut down every time before we are able to even talk about it.
I have a niece with severe disabilities including somewhat intractable seizures: her mother was constantly reassured by the pediatricians that everything was fine. My sister was at the point of questioning her own sanity when something occurred to her...She told the pediatrician that she was not going to sue, she just needed to understand her child's condition. At that point they leveled with her about the severity of my niece's condition.
Now virginity is a big issue for young muslim women (or perhaps their families even more), but apparently that doesn't cover anal sex
It does. She's a fucking moron. There's never even been the shadow of a ghost of the faintest hint of an argument for this. She deserves the STD's, that's pants on head stupid.
EMT here, I had a grown adult try to explain to ME that someone else shit his pants. Got toned out for finger pain at a homeless shelter at 0200, we get there and the guy jumps in the truck with very mild swelling to the tip of his right index finger. Here's how the conversation went:
Me: so what happened?
Patient: I smoked some meth and then I fell asleep in my bunk and I woke up next to my bunk and my finger hurt and there was poop!
Me: there was poop..? Did you fall in poop..?
Patient: no no, like in my pants!
Me: so... you pooped your pants?
Patient: no! It wasn't me!
Me: so let me get this straight... you smoked meth, took a nap, rolled out of bed in your sleep, hurt your finger, and someone ELSE came along and shit in your pants before you woke up...?
Patient: yeah! It wasn't me!
Thylatron ยท 187 points ยท Posted at 02:27:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once got really drunk on newyears awhile ago. Went to sleep and some homeless guy broke into my house and pissed in my bed while me and and my gf slept there.
True story.
This may of come from an old joke.
Guy is in a bar, drunk as could be and spills a beer on his shirt. He tells the bar tender that his wife will be mad as hell that he had spent money on booze and messed up his shirt.
Bartender tells him to put ten bucks in his shirt pocket and when wife starts to talk about his shirt to pull out the ten and tell her some other guy spilt the beer on him and gave him ten to get it cleaned.
He gets home and wife starts going off about the shirt and he pulls out the bill and says "Honey, another guy spilt this beer on me and he gave me ten bucks to get the shirt cleaned." Wife says "this is a 20." Oh, he shit in my pants too.
It's easy enough after 4-7 days of not sleeping. In fact sleep will hit you in the middle of whatever you happen to be doing when you get to the point where your body just says 'Nope, we're going to bed'.
I've seen people fall asleep at the table while eating, under a truck they're fixing, while playing video games, whatever. Damn near mid sentence, boom, asleep.
I've imagined the logistics of this situation thousands of times and I strongly feel that the shitter would pull down the back of the shitee's pants, squat above them, and then return their pants to their original position. It's even easier than fully removing their pants
ursois ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next time I find someone passed out this is exactly what I'm going to do.
KingKnee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL! I blamed my twin brother for shitting my pants as a child.
This reminds me of an older Iranian guy I used to hang out with. He'd fart real loud, look around all startled and declare, "Oh my! Somebody farted in my pants!"
My best friend, during our Iraq tour, actually had someone else shit his pants. There's a long, hilarious story, but here's the TL;DR:
He contracted ulcerative colitis while in Baghdad, so he was shitting like 20 times a day. His squad went to different base 30 minutes away and he immediately ran to the latrine. The Sri Lankan guy mopping the floor pointed at the toilet at the end and said some stuff in his language. My friend rushed to that stall and opened the door, dropped his pants, and landed on the toilet all in one motion. He used his elbow to give the Sri Lankan guy a courtesy flush and the water and shit overflowed into his pants, which were tucked into his boots. The Sri Lankan guy was telling him that toilet was broken. There was several days of other people's shit in that thing, and most of it filled up his pants.
EDIT: I guess that wasn't too much of an abbreviated version. Maybe TL;DR wasn't accurate.
Most likely, his finger hurt because he was cold, wet, and had a strange shit in his pants. It's very common to get a call for a BS complaint as a reason for a warm bed for the night
My brother is a general practitioner in rural Tennessee. Enough said, right?
He says most of his patient visits go about like this:
MD "Well, person, you're pre diabetic, have high blood pressure, and are complaining about joint pain. Have you been exercising and cutting out sugar and carbs?"
Person "yeah I have, doc, but it doesn't seem to help. Do you have any better meds you could prescribe?"
MD "well, let's talk about your diet. How much water do you drink a day?"
Person "I don't like water, so I get extra ice in my sweet tea every day to make sure I get enough water."
MD (explains how that's not enough water by a long shot) "how much sweet tea are you drinking every day? Those can have a lot of sugar in them."
Person "well I get a large one from Hardee's/McDonalds/ wherever on my way to work with my breakfast, and another one on my way home for dinner. Then I have a glass or two when I get home."
MD "well, that's a lot of sugar. And a lot of fast food if you are eating it twice a day. What do you eat at home?"
Person "I don't like to cook so I usually don't eat anything but little Debbie snack cakes at home."
MD "those have a lot of sugar too..."
Person "I thought that all I had to do was cut out Mountain Dew! Now you're saying I can't eat my food or my snacks?! What are you suggesting I do? Eat salads for every meal?! Why can't you just up my meds?!"
[deleted] ยท 386 points ยท Posted at 05:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once I worked with a guy who had some sort of blood thinning meds at lunch. For half an hour afterwards he couldn't stand bright light (ie just the normal overhead lights in the warehouse, a lot dimmer than sunlight).
He told me it was heart medication and the doctor had told him to fix his diet. His diet, at least at lunch at work, was like a full English breakfast - 2 eggs, bacon, sausages, all fried, plus toast. He also told me he wasn't about to change a damn' thing, that if he had to give up the food he liked he might as well be dead.
I thought then that he was a sad bastard if the only thing worth living for was greasy food. He was married too, to a very nice lady.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 13:08:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive known a few people like this and I just dont get it.
I'll do what I want and just die younger!
Really?! so you are going to die early for some pasties? Leave your daughter behind, your wife, your whole family. None of that is worth putting the fork down?
It's not an easy death, either. People don't seem to understand the damage diabetes can cause. I hope those pastries are worth the gangrene and foot amputation that are in your future.
I work with a guy who had a gangrenous leg and untreated diabetes. He has a can of soda at every break, starting with one coca-cola at 7 in the morning. The only thing I ever see him eat is carbohydrates, usually just eating a bag of Portuguese rolls at lunch, never get's any fiber. Guy refuses to go to the doctor because "They don't help him", all I have seen him do to treat his leg is some anti-biotics which I do not know how he scored. His leg smells like death, in a large room you can still smell the stench of decaying skin, it was enough for me to complain about him even being in the lunchroom with us. He disappeared from work a couple weeks ago, and I am not even sure if he is still alive, he literally couldn't walk on his leg anymore because the pain was unbearable. Most people felt bad for him, but he was a real asshole, he did nothing to better his situation, almost seemed like he wanted to die but was afraid to kill himself. If he really wanted to die though, there would be much better ways of doing it than letting your body go septic.
Yes, diabetes is very serious. I had a patient whose toes started to die and the doc recommended amputating the leg. She refused. By the time she died some months later... there's no describing it. The back of her leg from the knee down had literally rotted off, the meat was hanging in strands. Her toes were black and mummified-looking, shrivelled and dried out, and pulling away from the meat of her foot. I've never seen anything like it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:02:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or even just the pure weight of their body just destroys their knees, back etc.
I've seen people who can't even cope with standing up for long or a short walk because their body just gives in.
That's the attitude of pretty much everyone in my family with diabetes (which is like 70% of them). They normally don't have the money for meds or eating all that healthy, which I understand but they also hate each other and fried food is normally their one joy so they just eat it and don't care.
Most people can both eat healthier and save money. There's lots of foods that require no preparation that are better and cheaper than fast food, for instance.
The people in my family were below the poverty line, had virtually no money coming in, lived in food deserts, and realistically needed to be cared for by someone else. While that may be an option for some people, it wasn't for most of the people in my family which is honestly how most of them got to be that unhealthy in the first place.
Better is pretty subjective, maybe healthier but I really doubt they're tastier
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually eating healthier is really cheap: chicken, salmon, tuna, wheat bread, beans, rice, lean beef, turkey, etc.
These are all things you can buy in large quantities for relatively low prices in the US. Spices & sauces are recommended if you can afford them, but aren't necessary.
The whole "I can't afford to eat healthy" thing is born of ignorance as to what is actually healthy to eat - usually fruit or really expensive prep meals/snacks which may be healthy, but aren't necessary.
TL;DR: you can eat canned chicken, veggies, and rice for a month for like $20, fam.
Uh, well thanks for admitting you wildly exaggerated something you presented as fact.
I'm going off of the idea that the average human needs roughly 1200 calories to not begin starving (although most will still begin to drop weight).
So "to not begin starving" is your standard for food expenditure for the poor?
BTW, 1600 calories were allotted to people in concentration camps and they were not exactly healthy.
You clearly spout "info" with no backing and then enjoy sitting back and blaming the poor for their poorness.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:42:35 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people on concentration camps were a fair bit more active than the average worker in the developed world. So, yes, 1200 is still enough.
The reason I used "not begin starving" as the cut-off is because true poverty, someone who has twenty dollars to spend on groceries, can't exactly afford to eat much more.
I'm sorry that for some reason this offends you so much, but my point remains that it doesn't cost nearly as much as people think to eat healthy.
Lemme break it down:
Box of minute rice - 300 cals per 1/2 dry cup, around $7 for a 37 serving box
Canned tuna - 45 cals per pack, around $6 for an 8 pack, 16 servings of 18 per 8 pack
Water - $1 for a gallon
You may not be able to live well, but it's entirely possible to eat for a good bit on $20, and to have the basic carbs + protein down.
Furthermore, I never once said I "blame the poor for their poorness." If you look at my post history you'll note that I'm a working class American. In Other words: I am poor.
Zantre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:00:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get it if you have kids or a wife, then you have to be responsible.
But some of us actually just don't care, and would rather enjoy life the way we want and die early as a result.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anyone who doesn't love my steamed broccoli with a pinch of sea salt and a little cheese. ... on second thought, I'm not sure that's very healthy, haha. It tastes delicious though!
To be fair it's healthier then my normal Doritos. Baby steps
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that argument but it seems such a waste from my point of view.
To see someone walking around with constant back and knee problems, unable to sleep comfortably, constant health problems, all because they just want to eat crap constantly.
I would never want to tell someone the way to live their life, its their life to live and all that. But surely its an unhealthy (mentally and physically) way to live? Its like its just a socially acceptable form of alcoholism or substance abuse.
Yeah they enjoy it or depend on it at the time, but it wrecks their body afterwards.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the record that is actually a healthy meal if following a keto diet (if you leave out the toast). It's got lots of healthy fats, maybe a bit high on the protein, but if dinner had some vegetables, then bam. Good days food.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, TIL...
However, the guy was overweight and on heart medication so I don't think he was very healthy.
Yeah, it goes very wrong very quickly if you have anything with a GI over about 15 for breakfast or dinner. Say potatoes, or porridge, cereal or pasta.
eggs are great in moderation or not. I know people who eat a dozen eggs a day and are fit as fuck. I also know people who eat bacon and sausage a lot and are fine.
I'm with him.. in some ascpect.
I have neuropathy, and one very Interesting neurologist told me it was because I ate hot sauce. I would never move my arm correctly again until I stopped eating hotsauce.
This was not a plan I was alright with. I didn't think it would help, and my religion dictates a viking style funeral in a sea of hot sauce.
We did not meet again.
(I may have considered the hot sauce free diet if he didn't also say many of my pain issues came from lacking a husband)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:25 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reading this too late at night. Now I'll probably dream of Viking funerals, hot sauce and dickish doctors lacking husbands.
I know someone from Texas who grew up not realizing we get nutrition from food. Like most people around her thought you ate food for whatever reason and then took vitamins for nutrition. The lack of connection between food and what it does to/for the body is stunning.
I mean, if you were never told about nutrition would you know?
Given that it took (hundreds of) thousands of years for humans understand to what a balanced diet was, probably not.
sharkbag ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:39:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a lot of the problems in this thread would be solved by good and simple nutrition education rather than a lot of the moralistic attitude thats popping up
Health education, sex education, food education, education in general.... Nah, who needs that when we have the Bible! Everything we need to know is in there! Heehee...
That's basically true for the entire human race up until 200 years ago. Scurvy was rampant, but nobody reached for a lime.
Methee ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 06:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a friend who is diabetic who constantly complains about how he ended up in the ER over the weekend because his blood sugar was higher than his test kit could read.
I constantly have to tell him that, no, it's not because his doctor is prescribing bad medications, it's the crap he's eating (three to four sodas during a game of DnD along with various sugary snacks).
He legit doesn't believe his diet is effecting him because he eats gluten-free (he's gluten intolerant, as well).
It drives me batty to the point where I've stopped talking to him because all he does is complain about his diabetes and health problems.
I know a diabetic educator that I wish explained things like this. It's a brilliant way of putting it in the patient's terms. Unfortunately, you're usually not going to see a doctor who knows/shares your hobbies and can adequately explain your situation in your own terms. It would do wonders for medical explanation and treatment if you could.
Modorox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like its time to make an analagy repositorie where doctors explain diseases in terms of their hobbies (be it DnD, basketball, cars, etc.) so other health professionals can explain things in their patient's terms.
To be fair if he has to eat a gluten free diet and a low sugar diet his food choices are extremely limited. I guess an Atkins type diet. Meat and veggies only. But if you health depends on it I guess its worth it.
ooofest ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:16:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, same here. I mean, I've been on it for about five years, but I've been slacking off a bit recently and I got a couple warts all of a sudden. :( Now I gotta cut out sugar or something again.
But yeah, meat and veggies and fruits is good! Fruit for breakfast, rice n' chicken for lunch maybe, an amazing stew for dinner, it arguably tastes better than all the sickeningly sweet treats, especially after eating it for a while, your tastebuds become more sensitive to the slightly plainer food. Carrots are sweet! :P
Green beans and many peppers are practically candy. Perfectly ripe strawberries are some kind of sweet slice of heaven. Also been slacking but am afraid to cook so that's my problem. Fortunately raw veggies are still generally pretty good.
Oh yes. Once you aren't saturating your mouth with too much, everything else tastes better too.
Afraid to cook? Any particular reason? That's actually one reason why I enjoy this diet so much, I've learned to be better at cooking, making some great stews or potato/rice platters, green beans n sweet peas.
Hell yes! It's like exploring a new world with flavor.
Got really excited about cooking at some point, but whenever I went to do so my dad would scream at me to get out of the kitchen. If I was smart about it and did it while he was gone or passed out he would harass me later, always claiming I'd made a disaster even though I cleaned it spotless. Left me with a weird complex. I'm elsewhere now and the family is great and leaves me be and I still can't go in there and cook for myself. Microwave is fair game but there's only so much you can do with it.
That's awful, I'm sorry. :( Never been through that sort of thing, so I really don't have any advice or anything either. Cooking is fantastic though, if you can find some way to do it someday, I'm sure you won't regret it. Perhaps start small, with only cooking some beans in a small pan on the stove, or something? I dunno...
I'd love to hear about it someday if you do find a way to get cooking again! It's one of my favorite things, and it'd be great to know someone else is able to do this sort of thing for themselves :)
You just have to eat asian food, rice is gluten free
Luvagoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:04:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'i guess'. And oh no meat and veg how will humanity survive.
Toezap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a cousin who is a Type I diabetic and has celiac disease (gluten intolerance). There's more than just meat and veggies, but as u/RunningUpThtHill says, gluten-free food often has a lot of sugar. The people who make it often use sugar to accommodate for the missing gluten and make it taste more "right".
There was a commercial in the Netherlands where a minor celebrity prized chupa chups (lollypops) as a 'healthy' snack for kids because they don't contain any fat. She received a lot of flak over that one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Methee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
USA. Our education system actually does pretty well at teaching various health subjects (my eleven year old knows that diabetes means special diet thanks to his health classes). Sadly, as with every country, people become ignorant to what is right in front of them and refuse to change their shitty habits.
He has an addiction to bad food because that's what makes him happiest (don't get me started on his depression). The more I think about it, the more I figure he knows what he's doing to himself, it's just a matter that he doesn't care.
Bobcatluv ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 06:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get the "I don't like water" attitude. I used to teach and coach in an inner city high school, and I heard this all of the time. I'd have athletes complaining of headaches and muscle cramps all of the time. Our trainer worked to rehydrate them more than she ever handled injuries.
And no, this wasn't in Flint.
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[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
most impoverished families can't justify the expense.
All you would have to do is tally up the cost of buying something to drink for a month versus the cost of the filter. There is no possible way the filter cost more than buying two liters of soda/pop, sweet tea, juice etc.
Some of my students lived in newer (like 1990s-2000s) project housing, and I actually lived in their neighborhood, renting an older unit. Not to mention, the access they had to free bottles of water on campus. I get the point you're trying to make (especially in the era of Flint), but it is more of a social and cultural thing rather than plumbing issue. Some people were, in fact, raised to see water as just something with which you wash your ass.
Btw, "inner city" doesn't mean flat broke in all cases; whenever my students or their families wanted something badly enough, they got it.
samamp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:38:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i live in a first world country so i never even tought about that :)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me wrong, I totally love having a big bottle full of cold water next to me while I work, but I can kinda sorta see where people like this come from. On the uncommon case where I get a bottle of gatorade, I may fill it up with water afterward and drink that. It always tastes really off, like something is missing. If your palette is used to drinking only super extra sweet drinks all the time no matter what, it's probably unpleasant in a similar way.
I now drink at least 2 bottles a day (big 750ml-1L sports bottle I got in Wall Mart) and yeah it sucked for months. Now I can't remember the last time I had a Dr Pepper. And I fucking love Dr Pepper!
But seriously, if people fix most of their diet then they'll get the water they need. You don't need to DRINK 8 pints of water or whatever it is, that's overkill. But your food has a massive amount of water which is where you get a lot of it. Fast food and processed food doesn't which is part of the problem.
Edit: so yeah I get that a lot of water doesn't taste great (inner-city water is pretty damn horrible in places), but it doesn't need to be drank, it can be eaten
I grew up on juice, fresh lemonade and soda. I drank water but only while playing football or at karate. I really didnt like it. Just 2 years ago I had to FORCE myself to drink nothing but water for an entire week. Since then I have had trouble drinking anything elss. Other drinks are just so sweet I feel ill drinking them. I still like the way they taste better but I really can't make it more than half a glass or so before I just cant drink it.
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i literally cannot DRINK water. I can occasionally slowly sip water, but actually drinking it, or even sipping too much in too short of time, gives me bad nausea and sometimes actual pain in my stomach. and by too much in too short of time, im talking a few ounces over 5-10 mins.
i CAN handle some unsweetened iced teas, but not others (and its not a preference thing... there are some i hate i can drink like others drink water, and some i love that i cant drink any more then i can regular water.... and some somewhere in between)
most juices i can drink, that im willing to drink anyway (who knows about the ones i cant stand lol), coffee, milk (to an extent...i have a minor lactose problem, so i can only drink so much, but i can handle a single large glass and down it if i havent had too much other dairy), soda, probably some hot teas on a similar level as iced, except i dont drink hot tea anyway, i sip it slowly on the rare occasions i drink it, hot cocoa, etc.
But no water. even when thats ALL i want to drink. even if its my favorite brand of bottled water and we splurged to buy it... a single bottle will last me a few days most likely.
the only exception is if im actively exercising. then i can drink water, up to a point (about a single 20-soemthing oz bottle if my heartrate and breathing and sweat levels are up) before i have to switch to a sports drink like gatorade (which i hate. All of em. But better to drink them then get sick from drinking water or let myself dehydrate and get sick from that)
anyway, point is, sometimes that "I dont like water" is actually "i can't drink water but dont feel like trying to explain that"
This is kind of interesting to me because I've never heard someone say that drinking (pure/clean) water makes them sick. Have you ever talked to a doctor about it? The only time I've ever experienced being nauseous from drinking water is if I'm having a (rare) bout of water retention, and/or if I eat way too much salt.
In one of my old student digs the water made me feel ill, turns out my stomach was sensitive to something that was leaching into the water from the pipes. No problems in my much newer built home.
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think it was caused by the time i got a mild case of water OD. between a regularly (but not intentional) low sodium diet at the time due to cutting out soda (i generally dont eat extra salt on anything but fries, hard boiled eggs, and watermelon. None of which i was eating much of. most of my sodium was coming from my soda at that time) and an issue with my mouth (meaning i wasnt eating what sodium i did get thru food AND was using water to try to make it feel better), i was going thru ridiculous amounts of water quickly, throwing my body out of wack My body didnt like that, and now refuses to be put back in that position.
i have met other people online with similar issues, but i cant be positive if they were pregnant or not at the time and if it was a permanent or short term thing. (pregnancy throws everything about the body out of wack sometimes, but much of the time the changes go away after a while)
also, i find it interesting that you get sick from water when you have too MUCH salt. Usually, from what i know, it would be the other way around (too little sodium and other electrolytes + excess water = water OD (aka water poisoning/water intoxication) its so weird how in so many cases with our bodies, too much and too little of something can often cause similar symptoms
I am the furthest thing from a doctor, but I really think you should ask one about that.
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
probably, but that costs money. As i said above, just buying a decent bottle of water is a splurge sometimes.
but i think it was caused by the time i got a mild case of water OD. between a regularly (but not intentional) low sodium diet at the time due to cutting out soda (i generally dont eat extra salt on anything but fries, hard boiled eggs, and watermelon. None of which i was eating much of. most of my sodium was coming from my soda at that time) and an issue with my mouth (meaning i wasnt eating what sodium i did get thru food AND was using water to try to make it feel better), i was going thru ridiculous amounts of water quickly, throwing my body out of wack My body didnt like that, and now refuses to be put back in that position.
tdub2112 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 06:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A guy at my church was diabetic for many years and ever since I knew him, had weighed at least 350 lbs. Had some toes cut off, then his leg from the knee down. Still kept up the same diet. I'm amazed he died last year. He should have been dead a decade ago.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:41:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well the bright side is he probably wasn't 350lbs anymore.
tdub2112 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably lost a few pounds post amputation as one would expect having a limb cut off, but he just kept getting fatter and fatter.
Children who weren't taught how to eat healthy as kids :/ I mean, I brew and drink sweet iced tea, but I make it myself with only half a cup of sugar per gallon.
I drink iced tea with no sugar. I love hot tea and coffee too, but the tea you use for iced tea is different than what you usually use to make hot tea, it has a much milder taste usually so the resulting drink when ice is added is very diluted and refreshing. There's a reason it's drank a lot in the hot as balls south. When it's warm outside I drink like a gallon a day of the stuff, but i'm a caffeine addict so it's a good way to get caffeine all day without drinking a bunch of soda or hot drinks that make me feel even more warm.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but not sweet or anything, and a lot of people make their own. I hate sweet tea or the fruit flavored ones, but I don't like sugar in my coffee or anything either so maybe I'm just weird. Even unsweetened iced tea tastes way different from most hot tea you will drink, it's hard to describe the flavor really. Mcdonald's actually makes really good unsweetened iced tea, sometimes I stop there to get one just because it's a big plastic cup for only a dollar, sometimes they fuck up and give me sweet tea though, shit's so sweet I can't even drink the stuff.
As an American, so do I. I drink tea hot with just a teaspoon of honey.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweetened tea is just regular tea with sugar. Sweet tea is black tea sweetened with sugar until it won't hold any more sugar. It has to be sweetened hot and then cooled, because the cold tea doesn't hold enough sugar. It's delicious, but so so awful for you.
Then I'm going to be substituting every time you say "diabetes" with "the sugar" to make it even more accurate in my mind.
Vaadwaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:47:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tennesseeans are more hill people to my mind.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Vaadwaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:52:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a North Carolinian with family in Knoxville. I know well your ways, hillist, and shan't have your kind besmirching my genteel accent with your rocky rumblings and valley drawls!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Vaadwaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed! Now return to growing corn, brewing moonshine and violating bears!
"Basically, it's like you have a bucket. You've poked a few holes in the bucket, so the problem is that it's not staying full of water. You're asking me to turn the tap open more to keep the bucket full, but the tap can only open so far and you're refusing to stop poking more holes in the bucket."
Im a nutrition assistant at a hospital, which basically means i just have to make sure people order healthy items (like a waiter that is allowed to tell you that you cant have something) and this is the worst part. People complain with "well thats how i eat at home" "well that might be why you're in the hospital"
I had a former coworker diagnosed as diabetic. Doctors told her to exercise and change her diet. She didn't want to do it so she ate enough crap to go into a fucking coma and voila! The doctors gave her a pump. She'd constantly be eating skittles and slushies when I worked with her.
I had a conversation with a guy a while back they you just reminded me of.
I saw this guy I knew (sort of, we met briefly doing karaoke) at the grocery store. He asked me for a ride home. He lived near me so I agreed. I notice he has three grocery bags full of individual cans of different flavors of mountain dew.
He said to me, and I swear this is word for word, "I had to come down here to get more mountain dew. I'm out, and I just can't drink that water stuff."
He fucking called it, "That water stuff," like it was some stupid trendy drink the damn kids were all doing.
That should not be your feeling towards water. If you feel this way towards water, you need to get control of your life. Water should seem like a refreshing breath of air, especially if you've gone a while without a drink, or you've sweated a lot.
losian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar and carbs are a trap. Have fruit juice! Nope, sugar. Actual fruit? A lot of it is just carbs and sugar, garbage. Healthy frozen dinners? Carbs and sugar, with shit portions that guarantee you're starving and snacking.
What is relatively easily available to busy or even just mildly lazy people makes obvious the root cause of many diet related health issues.. And frankly should all fast, quick, and frozen food be so majorally shit? Even salads are garbage for nutrition, especially once you throw on the dressing.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Either you can eat salads or we can start cutting bits off of you. Take your pick."
Jake0157 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, Nice bit of snow and nobody moves, entire area is shutdown send help.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I do collaborate with my HR department on our wellness program and this kind of exchange sounds somewhat familiar... It's kind of sad and I don't even live in a rural area.
My boyfriends (now deceased) uncle had diabetes, ate whatever greasy, fatty, sugary and carby foods he wanted. Lost his leg. Had a horrible infection on the other leg and was in the process of losing it. Home nurse takes his sugar and it's almost 400. (Like 4x the normal amount) and asks if his dr was aware and he assured her he was (I highly doubt that).
jules083 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:24 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy at work becomes a diabetic at 30 years old. 425 pounds, drinks a 24 pack of Mountain Dew every 2 days. Has to quit drinking pop because of the sugar content. Still didn't cut out the sugar, he switched to bottled sweet tea and generic gatorade. I had to sit and explain to him how to real the labels on food and drinks, and where to find out how much sugar was in something. He had no idea.
I'm not a doctor, but my mom doesn't have a good grasp on the reproductive system so I had to be the one to explain that:
Getting my tubes removed did not remove my ability to get a period.
That we women have a urethra, a vagina, and an anus--babies do not come from the urethra. This one was strange because she had me and my sister so...
That when you neuter a dog, you just remove the balls, not the red rocket too.
China/Taiwan's sex ed was severely.... lacking. So my mom, until she was in her 20s believed that if you sat on a seat still warm on the bus that a guy sat in before you, you can get pregnant. If you kissed a guy, you could get pregnant.
I'm still finding out, years later, misconceptions that my poor mother has about reproduction and explaining things to her.
[deleted] ยท 1678 points ยท Posted at 20:57:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is partly true. In grade 7 I was heavily bullied and rumours ruined my reputation. All I thought to keep me sane was that life gets better, and if I make it to summer break I'll be okay. I made it to summer, and the years after weren't as bad.
However, my life is still pretty bad. I'm 11 years older and am pretty sure I will never feel euphoria or day to day happiness.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are some people I know that would still bring it up, as they literally brought it up Everytime they saw me, up til graduation. Most people let it go after grade 7, but the rumour resurfaced in highschool, which I was mad about because it was supposed to be a fresh start with new people, but they learned the rumour too.
I've been out of school for many years now, and I don't really fret about because I don't associate with the assholes, but I do still get nightmares about it.
I'm so sorry. If it makes you feel any better, I'm 30 and have never have a physical relationship with a guy. Part of me is absolutely mortified about it, and the other half is very stubborn. I have plenty of friends that would be happy to be FWB, but I decided a long time ago that when it happened, it had to be with someone that mattered to me. Now its like, omg I'm this old and I don't know how to kiss someone, no one is ever going to like me. Anxiety is so fucking stupid.
The problem is that I was bullied so harshly from like age 3-college, I have such low self esteem. Even though I have friends who tell me I'm gorgeous. I just look in the mirror and think wtf is wrong with you? Plus my social skills are pretty bad. I've dealt with so much in my life I tend to just sort of throw it out there, and end up scaring people. To me its something I deal with each day, and its a part of me. I'm not trying to dump a ton of info on anyone, but I feel they also have the right to know certain things. Guess its just figuring out the moderation. That and the last guy I tried to go on a date with stood me up completely.
I've never been good socially, a lot of reasons, verbal abuse, stuff like that. Last year I had to go into outpatient for depression, etc. Just, the past 5 years have been hell. Its not looking great for the future either, but I'm moving at least.
I may not know your exact pain, but I know how much it sucks, and how much in this world you can feel ashamed for stupid reasons. Honestly I'm terrified I'm never going to find the right person I want to. It's all so stupidly complicated.
If you're still having issues, you probably have a form of PTSD. It's actually very, very common and most don't know that. See if you can find a therapist who does EMDR. You have to relive the memory a whole bunch. But if it helps you, it will make it much, much better.
Good luck to you, feel free to inbox me if you want!
I understand (a little bit anyway) where you are coming from. I was offered sex once in highschool, but it was only because the other person was really desperate to have sex (I barely knew her, last time I talked to her was 5 years before). I declined because it didn't feel right.
Now I am almost 24 and haven't had a relationship of any kind. Oddly enough, grade 7 was the closest I came to having a relationship (we both really liked each other, she stole my agenda to get my phone number and whatnot), but when the rumour started it ended the relationship.
I'm alright socially, but relationship wise I suffer.
You may want to look into attachment disorders. I've done my own research on them and there are several types, but a lot of my quirks match exactly to one of the disorders. I don't have anything legit via a doctor, but my therapist found it very interesting. It may help find a bit of clarity where others have not.
othybear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, they just like to think their parents are virgins so they don't have to think about them ever having sex. I'm sure they have a healthy sex life. At least, I hope for their sake.
Big_TX ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:25:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well It's a very bad Physiological pain. Idk if that counts as a condition but it's a physical thing. When I googled the phrase to learn what I meant when I was a kid some claimed it gave their balls a blue tent as well. But I don't buy that part.
onedoor ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:00:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Blue" could be an analogy for bruises with how the testicles hurt when even slight pressure is applied. Like black and blue eyes after getting punched.
Big_TX ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:06:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it is definitely real. On first date with a girl, got this weird aching from testicles. Got home, they were swollen and did have a bit of discoloration. It was very subtle, not like a bruise or anything. But it definitely did give physical pain.
Lol happened to me once, had just heard stories of a kids testicles getting twisted and needing surgery, so that was my first thought, started twisting my nuts inside my balls to fix it, forgot where I started and how many twists I had done and panicked a bit, ended up working itself out tho and other than an hr or so of discomfort and some stress it was nothing other than blue balls
Big_TX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there you go. It's such a weird phenomenon
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Big_TX ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:09:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going weeks is unusually. For me, And what seams to be how it generally works for my research on forums, it's caused by not having cum for a whole ( like a day or two). Then getting very arowsed one or a few times. But I think it vetoes from person to person.
I.... never realized what that was. And didn't think to look it up (I tend to have random pains all over, so what's one more?). And here I thought I'd make it through this thread all smug. :(
I do too. Have you ever considered that you might have fibromyalgia? It's one of my conditions that I was recently FINALLY diagnosed with after wondering what the fuck is wrong with me for 15 years.
fuckitx ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not..it's just annoying because you're still horny. Blue walls
fuckitx ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard in my entire life of a woman being in pain because she didn't come. But if that's what happens to you then sure. I believe you due to your conviction on the matter.
Can confirm, there is definitely physical pain. After a weekend of feeling my gf's tits in hs with no time to jerk off, I sat at home in the worst pain imaginable
It's a very real condition, I can tell you that. Last night, I had it because I'm staying at some family's house in a separate room from my fiancรฉe, and we went out and got some handcuffs for when we get back to our place.
My swollen nuts felt like I had something between a UTI and an uppercut to the nads. It was so painful and uncomfortable, I had to have a shower and take matters into my own hands.
I'm sincerely sorry you were that uncomfortable. If you haven't already you should really get an appointment with a doctor, ideally with a specialist. That doesn't sound like something that should be written off as "blue balls."
You could just mention it to the doctor the next time you go, maybe. Although I probably wouldn't mention stuff either if it turns out to be a one time deal.
My husband has been on Basic Training for the Army since November. He was able to come back for the holidays. The first day he came back and we had sex, I can swear not just his balls, his dick too, was almost a faint bluish purple. He mentioned it hurt too. We laughed about it for the whole time he was here before he had to go back. Poor boy.
Nick700 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:56:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a figure of speech sometimes but mostly it refers to the real condition. The balls don't actually turn blue obviously, but it's real
I hope people are joking in here about blue balls being real. I'm a guy and have had balls for an extremely long time. The only time they ever hurt was when I got nailed in the balls by a baseball.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, sex ed, and The Fucking Internet! I learned what blue balls were on the internet (I am not a native English speaker, so we say it in a very different way in my language...).
Blue balls? Ooo I know this! It's the horribly painful thing assholes claim you are cursing them with if you refuse to fuck them or give them a BJ! I got no sympathy, ain't nothing stopping you from heading to the bathroom for some personal maintenance. Please feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong.
We had sex ed in 5th, 6th, and 8th grade plus some minor coverage from Health in 10th grade. Blue balls were not part of the curriculum. I learned the phrase online.
(And it was the you can ask anything sex ed. In 8th grade we got questions about the taste of cum ect answered.)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Knew a girl who came from an area like that, but it was worse because everyone in her small town were rich. Drug education was non-existent as well. She was addicted to coke at 12 and had a kid at 14. She's almost 30 now, still takes care of the kid, isn't addicted to coke anymore, but last I heard she cheated on another friend of mine for 3 years. They had been dating for 3 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So uh...did you tell her? I want to hear that story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever heard the term on reddit, and I'm still not exactly sure what it is.
Wish more women knew about this... gf always sleeps over during her period but doesn't want to partake in anything, and I can't just do it myself when she is there. After a few days it physically hurts to walk.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to work as a labor and delivery nurse and doesn't know what blue balls is. I don't really think that's something you learn in sex ed anywhere.
Doonvoat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair even a lot of 'in the know' people aren't aware of/don't believe in blue balls
Diablooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realize it's the exact same drug in the exact same quantity? Literally the only difference is the name. Generic doesn't mean they half-assed it or anything
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Diablooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're paying $20 because you prefer the name? I don't follow
jes0308 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So we're ignoring the fact that pharmacies aren't open at 1 am?
Exactly. They have the same quantity of the same active ingredient. Only thing different is what fillers (inactive) ingredients are used. They're required to be 97-103% as effective iirc by the FDA.
Looks like we're both right, you more so than I. FDA requires the generic to be within 10% (above or below) the blood concentration levels of the brand name, but the vast majority are within 3% (+ or -) as they are made by the same manufacturer but using a different filler.
Maybe if you don't understand what a generic is and feel like wasting your money on something that any pharmacist will tell you is the exact same goddamn medication down to the very dose.
I got a medical card from our state when I was still having a period, for just birth control and such through PP. They sent me my pills and a couple of the morning-after pills and condoms. For free.
Menopause is great once you get past the daily hot flashes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, you can get it for cheaper at planned parenthood though.
Funny enough, the actual abortion pill (or at least half of the regimen) only costs $30 for a bottle of 100 tablets. And you only need 3 tablets for the abortion. But yeah, that shit's not over the counter, for sure.
TheGabby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should be using more than three of the 200 mg tablets for a medical abortion. You definitely don't need mifepristone but I'm surprised at using on 600 mg!
And the Bahamas. My girlfriend and I ate there 95% of the time we were there cause we didn't have a guide to tell us where we should and shouldn't eat.
Edit: Food isn't that important to me. I don't live to eat, I eat to live. I hear stories all the time about people spending their vacation in the bathroom because they wanted to indulge in the local cuisine right away. No thanks. I'm there to see shit, not take shits. Sorry if this offends anyone idea of a good vacation, but I thought mine was wonderful.
yanroy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:37:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? It stops the shedding of the egg for a few days so that hopefully all the sperm dies while waiting for it.
If you already popped out an egg, it pretty much doesn't do much to prevent pregnancy. The whole "prevent implantation" is actually a myth that needs to be removed from emergency contraceptive ads.
Oops, thought you were talking about another topic.
Yeah, it's a common misconception. There is actually some evidence that suggest that it can even help maintain a pregnancy in someone who is lacking natural progesterone (progestin is used as one of the ingredients for Plan B). Makes sense as one of the only reasons why the body will not shed an egg is if it thinks its pregnant already--and Plan B gives a huge shot of it. Normal regular birth control pills has a smaller dose.
"Progesterone converts the endometrium to its secretory stage to prepare the uterus for implantation. At the same time progesterone affects the vaginal epithelium and cervical mucus, making it thick and impenetrable to sperm. Progesterone is anti-mitogenic in endometrial epithelial cells, and as such, mitigates the tropic effects of estrogen.[43] If pregnancy does not occur, progesterone levels will decrease, leading, in the human, to menstruation. Normal menstrual bleeding is progesterone-withdrawal bleeding. If ovulation does not occur and the corpus luteum does not develop, levels of progesterone may be low, leading to anovulatory dysfunctional uterine bleeding.
During implantation and gestation, progesterone appears to decrease the maternal immune response to allow for the acceptance of the pregnancy."
Had my first child even though I took Plan B within the window. But I ovulated before I took it so it had no effect on the pregnancy. Me and the hubby wanted kids but it was a bit soon--like 5 months into our marriage. Oh well, all's well that ends well.
Hope this clears up a lot of stuff about Plan B.
Moal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So condoms, spermicide, and all other forms of birth control are abortion too?
Ever heard of a little hospital called Saint Mercy? Or Saint Mary's? Saint Jude? There's about a million of them and a whole bunch of other Saint hospitals. And that's just the Saints.
It's cause churches got mooooney... And if the church made you well, then maybe you'll repay the favor and go to church. Mafias and gangsters use this technique too, but it's just a coincidence. It's a good strategy.
You joke, but there was a blogger who wrote about being turned down for Plan B and/or an inability to get an abortion, so she asked for guidance on an herbal abortion. This attracted a lot of attention, including some recipes that would kill her.
dotlurk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it is an abortion pill. It dislodges the fertilized egg which already contains new life with a ready new DNA. It may not feel like an abortion but technically it is one.
I have no idea why it's available over the counter in the US.
TheGabby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't. It prevents your body from ovulating and causes your vagina to create mucus to make it harder for sperm to reach the egg. If you're already ovulating there's a chance it won't work.
TheGabby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Huh. Interesting. Okay well hormones control the thickening and thinning of the lining in the uterus, which, once shed, is what periods are. The fallopian tubes are not part of that mechanism and is only what delivers the sperm to the egg (or egg to the sperm depending on how you look at it) and then the fertilized cells to the uterus.
This is why, even though I got my tubes removed (elective), if I wanted another kid (like I'd have to REALLY want it because at this point I'm done with two and would rather dig my eyes out with a spork) I could do IVF and still have kids.
Hope this clears it up!
bratzman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:35:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that makes sense. I don't know why, but I guess I assumed you needed to have an actual egg involved.
Actually, I can use my own eggs. They don't need my tubes to retrieve them. Basically they take a really long needle and stick them into my ovaries and extract mature eggs to mature outside.
Think of someone taking a needle and going directly into the testicles to retrieve sperm, rather than getting it the old fashioned way.
Ah, that bit was news to me. I didn't realize you could take out the tubes but leave the ovaries in. When you started the post saying you could use your own I figured that you had your eggs frozen or something like that.
For what it's worth, I'm a first year medical student and even I didn't know that. You always hear about tubal ligation, in which the fallopian tubes are either tied or cut to prevent an egg from reaching the uterus, which is the procedure everyone knows as "getting your tubes tied". I'm not sure why she had her entire fallopian tube removed rather than simply ligated, and I didn't have any idea that was even done. When I first read her comment saying that she had her fallopian tubes removed, I figured it was from a salpingo-oophorectomy which removes the ovaries and fallopian tubes and is typically done before ovarian cancer has a chance to develop in patients who are at high risk for it. Just FYI, if she had her ovaries removed that would stop her monthly period as you expected, which is why I also expected she wouldn't have regular periods anymore.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had my tubes removed as well (bilateral salpingecteomy). No chance of ligation failure this way. It's not any more risky or painful than ligation.
In my case too, I had Essure implants in my tubes that still caused me pain years later. (Those are a small coil of wire that blocks up your tubes, a ligation alternative). So I wanted those things out. Though I would have opted for removal either way. It did in fact fix the problems :)
Also, recent research shows many ovarian cancers may begin in the fallopian tubes, so this method may also help reduce risk.
Yep! My doctor just asked me right before my c-section if I'd rather just get them removed since it reduces the chances of ovarian cancer by 20%. He was like, although the chance of ovarian cancer is already low anyway, you still have this option.
Ligation fail was what I was scared of. I know two people who had that happen to them. Must have been one helluva sperm and egg.
kmturg ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:34:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once knew a sexually active 15 year old heterosexual male that thought girls had one hole. Pee, Poop and period all came out of the same place. He had taken health and sex ed classes and still didn't get it! I was the lucky one that got to explain it!
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kmturg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say assuming he is visually inspecting anything would be a mistake. He doesn't have to visually inspect a vagina to have sex. Coming from a small town, I know some of the chicks he had slept with and they were most definitely cis-gender females.
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Lyrle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:29:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know my early partners would generally jab their rod in the general area and then I would have pity on them and grab it to guide it in. Sadly there were no visual inspections whatsoever.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:09 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I know some of the 'chicks' he had slept with..."
That says it all...
macphile ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:21:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had he not heard of anal sex (with girls)? Did he think that women were at risk of shitting out their babies every time they went to the bathroom?
kmturg ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:43:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea. I was astonished that he thought there was 1. I figured he just didn't know that girls didn't pee out of their vaginas. Nope he thought it was all one. Guess he thought he had already done anal. Weird shit, cause his little brother knew it!
macphile ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can see confusing the vagina thing because guy's have one tube for urine and semen, but the rest? We're all the same species, so apart from sex and reproduction, it should all work the same--digestion, breathing, all that. What's next, women have gills? Or change color when threatened?
Hysterectomy. Removal of the uterus. But this isn't an elective procedure. Women aren't able to go to the Dr and just ask for it. There has to be medical reasons why before they will take parts out.
And sometimes, if you go for the laparoscopic surgery option, your surgeon goes a little wild with the morcellator and slices up your intestines, letting you bleed halfway to death before anyone notices!
Source: my mom, who still faces chronic health issues over a decade after her hysterectomy. Abdominal surgery is incredibly risky, folks. Ain't nobody should be looking for a surgical solution to those pesky periods.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:18:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hysterectomy would mean there is nothing to ablate.
Some gynos are willing to do it without already being sterilized, but they inform you that it has the possibility of making you sterile. And then there are some gynos that won't sterilize you until you've had a few kids first, 'just in case'.
I had an ablation just last Thursday. And since it doesn't guarantee sterilization, my doctor went ahead and removed my tubes as well. Getting pregnant after an ablation can be life threatening to the mother as there's no lining for the fertilized egg to attach to.
I had about a year of irregular periods, and we briefly tried medication, but that just made me bleed more, so I said to go ahead and shut it down, please. I'm childless, but I'm also 39, so he knew I was pretty certain I wasn't going to change my mind.
I had an ablation as well. It stopped my periods completely for about 2 years. They have come back now, but they are so slight that really the only time I realize it is when I use the bathroom.
vc-10 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:42:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A total hysterectomy. Removal of the uterus. But of course this leads to the inability to have children, and early menopause.
Some contraceptives (those based around progesterone, rather than oestrogen) can also prevent women from having periods, but it depends on the person. Some don't have any period, some have persistent spotting, it's tricky to know how you're going to react. It's certainly worth discussing those options with your doctor.
It only causes early menopause if the ovaries are removed too. My mother had a hysterectomy aged 32 due to cancer, but her ovaries were left in. She no longer had periods but could still feel symptoms around ovulation time each month.
Over 20 years later now she is just starting to get menopause symptoms.
vc-10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, absolutely, but while she wasn't bleeding she was still having periods. Some people also have oophorectomies, which is removal of just the ovaries (and normally the fallopian tubes) which would also stop periods completely.
Edit: still having periods as in still having the cramps, hormonal changes etc which from what I've heard are way more unpleasant than just the bleeding!
Removing just the uterus doesn't actually cause menopause. It's the removal of the ovaries that causes menopause. Many women choose to have their ovaries removed at the same time if they need a hysterectomy, to avoid the rare but pretty horrible chance of ovarian cancer in the future. That was nearly always done in the past.
However, you can also choose to leave your ovaries in (as I did)when you have a hysterectomy. You have no period, but you have no sudden menopause. For an unknown reason... Most likely related to the hormones - or lack thereof- produced by the uterus, post hysterectomy women tend to have early menopause. But it is gradual, not all at once as with surgery. I had my hysterectomy at 47 and now am almost 60 and never even knew when I went through menopause!
vc-10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup- but the ovaries and fallopian tubes are often removed too.
Interesting that a plain hysterectomy typically results in an early menopause- I never knew that!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 37 and I definitely know I'm going through it.
I'm a dude, but I can see why you thought otherwise because I asked.
Sam-Gunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a pansy, discuss the options like they said!
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vc-10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Total hysterectomy. Which includes the ovaries and fallopian tubes.
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vc-10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Normally termed as total hysterectomy, except in medical notes. This is Reddit, not a medical textbook- the common term is total hysterectomy (while not being completely correct).
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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vc-10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:32:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Endometrial Ablation. The lining of the uterus is irradiated to basically cauterize it. Sometimes it can grow back, especially if the patient is younger, but a lot of times it can stop periods permanently. Less invasive than a hysterectomy for women who qualify.
I was visiting my mom and we werr watching a show on TV. I had to explain what a happy ending is. She will be 60 this year. I am 30 and have two kids. Well, I guess it is good practice for explaining things to my kids. I think I traumatized my 4 year old when I explained they had to open me up to get her out. We were reading a box on how baby form and are born. She laughed when I explained most babies come out if the vagina and almoat cried when I explained she didn't. She was upset and saying she didn't do it to me. I told her no, she didn't. I knew it would happen and was okay with it and that her sisters were born that way too. I had to keep telling her it was okay. She calmed down after a few minutes. Hope I didn't scare her for life by trying to be proactive.
hawgear ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:49:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was skimming through and read "China/Taiwan" as "Shania Twain". I had to read the whole thing before I realized there was no country music sex ed video.
"if you sat on a seat still warm on the bus that a guy sat in before you, you can get pregnant" - Seriously? If that were the case, there'd be like a billion people in China. Some people..
Yeah - if you misread things like that on a daily basis it might be worth getting a test if it affects your work and communication. If not, just enjoy the misunderstandings :P
I was a vet tech that worked a Spay neuter clinic and I got asked about how the vet removed the penis... nope.... most horrible question was "do you guys use anesthetics?". Nope, we just hold them down and let em scream it out while we remove the necessary organs ๐
Ah so you can absorb it's power. Is the period more or less painful? Also, isn't it more common to get your tubes tied? Sorry, I don't know much about female vasectomy
It actually doesn't make a difference in terms of how painful or the quantity of the period, and yes it's more common to get it tied but my OBGYN's office leads a lot of research so they're always improving--they actually would cut a segment of the tube out and then cauterize the ends. This makes sure there are no "accidental" meetings because it has happened before that just tying was not enough.
Then before my C-section my doctor asked me if I just wanted to remove them since it decreases the chance of ovarian cancer by 20%--turns out ovarian cancer sometimes starts in the fallopian tubes.
I wasn't gonna use'em anymore and my insurance covers both so I said take'em.
Had to explain to an adult you have to brush all the sides of a teeth. Like... no, just the side that shows when you smile is not enough. And yes flossing is not just a thing for rich people.
When I was young my mother only said to "brush the teeth that show". Like front 6 top and bottom to save money (on toothpaste I assume?). I was well into childhood before a dentist made the connection that all my molars were full of cavities but my front teeth were peachy keen.
3 root canals and countless fillings to replace ones that have gotten bad over time. I think I'm good.
Maybe it's just what she learned from her parents and so on? I mean way back there were all kinds of myths and such about teeth and tooth decay was just seen as an inevitable thing because people didn't know how to prevent it adequately.
Actually, using more toothpaste diminishes the effectiveness because part of the mechanism it uses to clean your teeth is light abrasion, which will only work with a thin layer. The best example on a macro scale that I can come up with, is imagine that you want to clean a table, using a paste made of baking soda and water, and a brush. If you put a thin layer of the paste all over the table, and then scrub with the brush, you'll clean the surface of the table. If you put a three inch layer of paste on the table, and then brush, you'll never clean the surface of the table because you're just moving the paste around on top of itself.
So yeah. Basically you need a pea size amount of toothpaste, or smaller.
Raiquo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically you need a pea size amount of toothpaste, or smaller.
While your explanation was correct, this part is a bit of an exaggeration. It's supposed to be a dime-sized amount (a pea-sized amount for children under 6), which is a bit bigger than a pea. If you don't have enough, then you're just massaging spit around your teeth, and you'll miss out on any benefits to your enamel.
my dad's mom never told him to brush his teeth ever, so he didn't. all of his teeth fell out and at 21 he had to get full dentures. mom was shocked when he took out his dentures
_lemonem ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:16:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents did the same thing! It wasn't until I was older and my friend's mom (a dentist) visited the school when I found out you had to brush everywhere. It took me forever to get into somewhat of a routine to brushing my teeth, and I even have an app for it now.
No root canals, but my teeth are full of fillings and not attractive at all, despite me working very hard to get them looking okay again.
I've also had to have braces three times, so I'd like to have attractive teeth now that I can chew and talk right haha.
I know the feeling. Sometimes I'll be in the car on the way to work and I'll be like, darn it!! I keep mouthwash in my car just in case. Because even now like 7+ years later. I still sometimes forget.
Maybe she meant the ones that show when you open your mouth, which would be all of them. My dentist jokingly says "brush the ones you want to keep" meaning all of them.
Your kid brain just took it too literally/the wrong way.
Nope, literally the "smile teeth". She wasn't exactly the best mother (for a whole basket of reasons). But I distinctly remember being punished for actually putting the toothbrush in my mouth vs just -on the teeth- on the outside of the smile. I don't know if she thought I would gag myself? I have no idea the reasoning.
melance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The Social Six" as they are called
FGHIK ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 00:58:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so weird because when I don't floss I end up with severe plaque build-up and once nearly got gingivitis, but when I floss my gums are super healthy and my cleanings at the dentist go a lot more quickly. Maybe your dentist could be misinformed?
Really? Flossing removes food from between your teeth, in ways that brushing and mouthwash can't replicate. I have bad teeth with a lot of funny (too tight or too big) gaps and if I didn't floss I just wouldn't be able to clean them properly. Maybe the study you're referencing was on people who have had braces? (I hear braces help fix the gap size, making cleaning with a brush more effective.)
Get a pack of those little twigs with a bit of floss on them. But not the cheapest pack, the better ones last longer. I just keep them around in different places and use them when I notice them and have time.
The dentist told me "no, use real floss", but let's be real, I'm not perfect, it's this or nothing.
parsac58 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lifetime of floss is, like, one one-hundredth of the co-pay on a root canal. I don't know how much that translates to for people that can't afford dental insurance.
And yes flossing is not just a thing for rich people.
Of course it is! You poor people surely are getting uppity thinking you can use floss. Putting on airs like us purebloods, ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
Ooh, look at mister posh over here. "Oh, you haaahve to floss." Aren't we all hoity-toity? Listen, Richie Rich. If not flossing was good enough for Mr George Washington, it's good enough for me, sir!
We had a guy in our office say that when you have a wisdom tooth pulled, tooth number 2 became tooth number 1 and so on and so on. And we told him the wrong tooth had to be pulled. He screamed down the entire hallway to other patients that we were crackheads.
I actually got confused once when Tooth 3 (not sure what number) was being recommended for a root canal and I "knew" Tooth 1 was the problem.
I had my wisdom teeth and a set of molars removed as a teen because they didn't have room... I thought my dentist was gonna split her gut while she explained my misunderstanding to me. (I was meek and scared to point out the "mistake" and when I finally did she was kinda confused them realized the issue. I was laughing by the end despite being sore because she just seemed so tickled by figuring out why I thought she wrote down the wrong tooth.)
The bacteria and plaque tends to clump so it works. It dislodges and removes the clumps and lets saliva get in there to rinse out any leftovers.
velcamp ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flossing IS for rich people. Have you seen floss prices? I always ask for a couple extra packs at the dentist, because a $40 co-pay every six months and understanding doctors go a lot farther than dropping six bucks for a two-pack every month or so. Cheap, crappy floss by the inch, or fine as heck quality floss by the mile? No contest.
Book an appointment with your dental hygeinist (or add it onto your next check up) and they will demo it for you and instruct you in correct technique.
I once had to explain to a patient that he should be trying to brush his teeth at the gumline. He had only been brushing the biting edges and surfaces of the teeth, half the tooth basically. He'd been avoiding the rest because of the profuse bleeding that occurred if he touched his gums with a brush. Of course the gums were severely infected (gingivitis), which caused more bleeding, which led to less brushing, and so forth. Poor guy.
I had this misconception as a kid, quickly corrected by my parents. I think I got it from at least one popular kids' show that showed the characters brushing just their front teeth. No idea which one, I just remember feeling betrayed that the adults were telling me a different way of brushing my teeth than the tv show had.
Serious question: how the hell are you supposed to floss as smoothly as I've always seen it done in portrayals? Every time I've tried, it gets sort of stuck between my teeth and I end up having to (very uncomfortably) tug to get it back out.
I only found out a few years ago that you're supposed to brush the inside part of your teeth. I don't remember ever being formally taught how to brush my teeth, and maybe my parents missed that part too.
Flossing? I've never been told to floss. Not by parents, teachers, dentists or orthodontists. What's the benefit of flossing over just brushing well? I'm almost 25 and never had a cavity or any tooth problem at all.
The article isn't saying that flossing has no benefits. It's saying that the methods used to study flossing so far, are not reliable. That doesn't mean it has been proven that floss has no benefit.
You cite a media text that says it has done its research while citing no peer review source and even telling ADA is responding to them that they are wrong.
Simply put. Floss.
We also do some nice dentures
Tkerst ยท 4122 points ยท Posted at 23:26:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a patient in our high priority area for DKA. Sugar was in the 800s. Stomach pain, nausea, vomiting and the such. Pulled Burger King and gummy worms out of his backpack and proceeded to eat them. Like bro do you even know what diabetes is? Noncompliance and lack of medical knowledge is a big thing in Detroit
I did a patient's glucose the other day and it came back in the 500s. They were complaining of stomach pain and nausea; just really miserable. I reported the number to the nurse and, while we waited for insulin, the patient asked me to bring them ice cream.
WHY. Their reaction was very clear once I told them what their blood sugar was at -- they knew it was bad; heck, they started crying. But then immediately asked for ice cream. Because that'll totally solve the problem... I mean, I'm a bigish girl, and I'm no stranger to emotional eating, but when your blood sugar comes back so high that the nurse has to drop everything to come treat you, it's probably no bueno to reach for the sugar.
The nurse and I were able to convince them to throw away the pile of crap they had on their table (soda, candy, piece of pie, etc.) and that sugarfree applesauce was an improvement over eating ice cream. But man... The next day, they were right back to ordering pizza delivered to the facility and not checking a single fruit or vegetable on their menu.
My job is to support the patient, but damn is it hard sometimes. I can only "positively encourage them to select healthy options" so many times :\ If they don't want to eat their vegetables, I can't force them to.
Nope. I'm also technically not allowed to say no if they ask for ice cream. I can get the nurse to try to talk them out of it, but if they are oriented and informed and still explicitly ask me for ice cream, then I am required [facility policy] to go get it for them. There's this whole balancing act we do with autonomy vs. good decisions.
I hate those kinds of policies. I remember when I used to tutor, students would come in and say "Hey I got a 20 on all my last exams, what do I need on the final to make an A?" I couldn't tell them that they would fail the class. I could tell them that they needed a 370% though.
Lol reminds me of the future valedictorian I taught my first year teaching (her junior year). I gave her back her precalculus test with a grade of 52/50... at which point she started crying because "getting 52% will ruin her academic record!" Still face palming over that one.
Not sure how it works in your school district, but I was an advanced math student. This caused me to skip 2 years of math based on my standardised testing scores. Those 2 years were when we learned how to deal with fractions. So, in 11th grade I'm taking calc and our teacher can't figure out why we're all so scared of fractions. We explain to her we all either skipped grade 6, or 6 and 7 of math and never properly learned how to deal with them. Or calc teacher actually spent a few days going over basics and gave us worksheets for the multiplication and division of fractions.
If your school district is similar that might be the issue.
That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard! Curriculum should be made more rigorous, not skipped! You are not well educated, and it is a shame your school failed you in this way.
Yeah, I can understand where they're coming from because I wouldn't have been able to take calc as part of a normal high school experience (trig is required for it, which most people take senior year). There really should have been a year that included more topics, just compressed, because skipping things obviously didn't work out super well. I think fractions were the only real issue though, because I did still take pre-algebra.
What it likely meant is that she got all 50 of her questions right, then either nailed some bonus credit questions, or she turned in an extra credit project which was worth 2 points towards the test's grade. That is usually how these scenarios work.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has over 100%, it won't hurt her grade but leave a tiny amount of wiggle room
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, exactly, my assumption would be that i got 52% because you can't get 104%.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... 104% isn't a fake number, don't throw out all of fractions math just because mixed numbers exist.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but you can't get more than 100% on a test.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Besides, I don't grade with percentages, I grade on a point system. So you have the opportunity to earn, let's say, 500 points in a semester. This test was weighted ten percent of the semester grade (50 of the 500 points). Th amount of points you've accumulated toward your final grade at any point in the semester can be found by adding up all the points you've earned so far and dividing by 500.
Others have explained that it was extra credit, specifically a bonus question. Why would I be at fault for allowing my students the opportunity to show that they've gone the extra mile by answering a more difficult question? Bonus questions tend to be those that are above and beyond the scope of the course, not something I want to penalize the students for not knowing, but something I would want to reward them for going above and beyond.
helm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:04:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this the first time she wasn't graded out of a hundred?
Nah, the budget is only used to pay a scheduling guy and the tutors, and the tutors get paid by the appointment instead of sitting in all day for drop-in tutoring.
Sounds odd, but if people with anorexia can be sectioned for not eating enough to the point that it's a risk to their health, surely someone like this can be sectioned for it? They're obviously a risk to themselves?
This is a super muddy area, and the laws on this side of the pond are changing and evolving all the time. The TL;DR of MY situation (and this is with the laws of my state and policies of my facility) is that I have to uphold the patient bill of rights above all else. This includes the informed right to refuse treatment. Patient autonomy kind of trumps everything else. We are required to treat them, but if they refuse treatment, our hands are mostly tied.
Here is a resource that kind of outlines involuntary treatment - most sites I could find are aimed specifically at mental illness, but it spills over into the medical side as well. This longer essay goes over the subject in much more depth. Basically, as long as a person is considered competent, we cannot compel them to accept treatment. The only time we could forcibly treat them is in an emergency.
The definition of "mentally competent" in the context of refusing medical treatment means that the patient can understand the risks and benefits of the proposed treatment, and the patient is able to make an informed choice.
In other words, if my diabetic patient refuses their insulin, we would absolutely sit and try to talk them into it. We would explain why they need their insulin; we would try to work through why they are refusing it; we would explain the potential consequences of not taking their insulin. We would then document the refusal, likely contact the on-call MD, and later attempt to give it to them again. But if the patient is mentally capable of understanding this (aka we don't have a diagnosis that would indicate incompetency and they are alert & oriented) and firmly states that they are refusing their treatment, then we are required to comply. We can't strap them down and forcibly inject them. Now, I'm in a SNF, so there is the whole patient bill of rights Medicare/Medicaid compliance issue (which makes patient autonomy a Big Fucking Deal, vs. if we were in, say, an ER.) But, regardless, without it being an emergent situation, our hands are tied. A refusal is a refusal, and we could be mega sued, stripped of our licenses, etc. for violating it.
Now, people can be deemed incompetent. That's a whole separate process and issue. But if the person is considered competent, then we can't force them to take their insulin or eat a healthy diet. If they fall into ketoacidosis, we transfer them to the hospital where they are treated. And if they come right back and keep pigging out, then there's nothing we can do. The patient's bill of rights [which varies from facility to facility, but is generally pretty universal] prevents me from going in their room and throwing their junk food away without their consent, for example. We can urge them to put down the pie, but if they want to eat it, then they can. Same thing with refusing their breakfast - we can explain to them that they need to eat their regular meals in order to keep their blood sugar stable, but if they refuse to eat, we can't just stick a feeding tube in them because they're making a bad decision. Even if it's a risk to themselves - if they know that they're making a bad decision, and know that it might kill them, then we can't stop them.
I mean, seriously, I would welcome a lawyer or another medical practitioner with personal experience to weigh in in better detail. This is just MY understanding of it, as it applies to me.
daymcn ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Accepting a refusal is one thing, but enabling a destructive behavior is another. Refusing to assist them to not comply to medical advice should be allowed no? High blood sugar ND in a facility? You don't get to choose from the menu. You want a high sugar food? You go get it yourself, I won't stop you.
A nurse pointed it out elsewhere, but unfortunately, the current healthcare system -- particularly where CNAs are involved -- has a "the customer is always right" attitude. I could get written up, fired, and [if it's bad enough] even lose my license for refusing to do certain things that are in my job description. This includes telling the patient, "no - if you want ice cream, go get it yourself." There are some other people who will tell you that they do this all the time, and they might have the work environment where that is acceptable behavior, but mine is not. We are often told by management that we have to support peoples' decisions, even if they happen to be crappy ones. Autonomy, freedom, etc.
I discussed it with the dietitian the other day and we straight-up don't have a diabetic menu. We have a regular menu with options that they can choose from, and most of it is pretty healthy. It's not unusual for the diabetics to choose one entree, both desserts, and then go get more crap from the vending machines or have it delivered to them. And no, I'm not allowed to fill out their menu for them or add healthy selections on [when they didn't choose them.] I can prompt and suggest, but I'm not allowed to just do it behind their back.
iznotiz ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:00:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better details: my cousin had a kid, had every intention of breast-feeding. I was there while she explained this to three different nurses, each of them holding a shot and insisting that her milk just had to be dried up. Each of them had to be near-physically removed from the room, as they refused to leave until cousin had the shot.
In the middle of the night, a nurse injected her while she was half-asleep. And that is MY understanding of hospital ethics.
And she should have filed a complaint and/or sued. Unless there was a medical reason that her milk had to be dried up (??? why?), then the subject should never have even come up. The only thing I can think of is if she was on some kind of medication that made breastfeeding unsafe for the infant, in which case she likely would have been advised about the risks posed to the child. But even then, without an order or an emergent situation, injecting her against her consent is -- last time I checked -- considered assault.
I'm sorry that happened to your cousin. That's absolutely not in line with ethical policy.
iznotiz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as we could figure out, the hospital was pushing a particular manufacturer's formula -- other women were complaining that they were being bullied into the shot.
Wow that's almost Nestle level evil. Did anything come out of it? Seems like a story the media would go crazy for.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:16:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This behaviour and attitude is pretty common place. I think it is more institutional than individual (medicine knows best) and while there is def. marketing push it isn't quite as sinister as all that.
iznotiz ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:01:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why, because you're too young to know what pro bono cases are, but most of reddit is old enough to know about them?
iznotiz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:29:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I've worked in the legal field, yep. Pro bono isn't free to attorneys, who pick up the costs, and risk their future - as do we all - when they go against the corporate world. So pro bono cases are the simple ones, against people who don't have 1,000 attorneys and 10,000 laws that protect the institution against suits. You go right ahead and call around for a lawyer who will go against a car manufacturer or hospital for a promise of the costs of taking on a monolith. I'll just ... wait here. Well, no, but in principle I'll wait -- just as in principle you can take a hospital to court without paying an attorney. Reality? A little different.
EMNJ87 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:17:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did your cousin ever report the nurse/nurses? That's pretty messed up what they did to her. I had the opposite experience. When I had my son, the nurses were very helpful while I tried to breastfeed him. They even brought in a pump as well (he wouldn't latch). Sorry your cousin got stuck with some crappy nurses. :(
Where are you? Nursing care is typically very pro-breastfeeding and teaching/problem solving/encouraging new mothers to breast feed is pretty standard postpartum nursing care
iznotiz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SoCal, five years ago. Last year I spent six hours seizing in an ER, and was told I could either accept the 'nothing wrong' diagnosis or be psyched. Went home, spent 3 more days seizing, spent a year getting the use of my arm back using PT techniques I threw together. LOVE the medical community. Seriously helpful.
helmia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:56:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What an absolute horror story, dear god. I can't imagine how helpless she must have felt (especially after giving birth, she must have been mentally and physically exhausted, how dare they bully someone in that state??) those "nurses" should be fired and taken to court. Was she able to breastfeed after the shot at all?
Can I ask in what country this happened?
iznotiz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
purpleRN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:01:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was the practice a long time ago. Because why on earth would a woman want to breastfeed when there's perfectly good/easy formula?
Things have swung the other way now, where formula is demonized and breastfeeding is king.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish being deemed incompetent (medically speaking) was a thing in Australia.
My dad is THE guy. The 200kg T2 diabetic who has had MULTIPLE amputations, who is now in kidney failure, has nerve necrosis to his knees and above the wrists (ie: no feeling in extremities anymore), losing eye sight and basically constantly in pain/miserable/slowly dying...
He gets home from his latest stint in hospital (there's normally at least one week in 8 that he's there) and the first thing he does is order pizza or tuck into the ice cream.
I had to move out of home and to a different state because I refuse to live with/watch/be complicit in it anymore. I tried for years while helping him with day to day stuff to help him change - small changes to diet, I offered to cook meals, go for walks with him - he doesn't want to change and it's hearbreaking to know that I gave up some of my best years to try to help him and he doesn't care enough to try and stick around for me/my brother or to be able to do anything like walk me down the aisle, see his grandchildren born, etc etc.
You did all you could be gosh I can think of easier less painful ways of suicide. He does understand what he is doing doesn't he?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have said the exact same thing (re easier/less painful ways to commit suicide).
He seems to know what he's doing, but not really care. I don't understand why he just hasn't taken a handful of pills by now. It's be easier. Horrible for whoever finds him, but easier for him.
Anecdotal maybe, but very illuminating. Thanks for sharing. My gut says that maybe the bad blood sugar, give me icecreams situation should be treated like a lesser version of the patient refusing insulin. I'm not medical ethicist, but a guy can dream.
asdf2602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent summary
Vaadwaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds odd, but if people with anorexia can be sectioned for not eating enough to the point that it's a risk to their health, surely someone like this can be sectioned for it? They're obviously a risk to themselves?
The people with calorie deficient eating disorders are often considered mentally incompetent/unstable or voluntarily commit. For a diabetic it would need to be associated with that that. Further, if I recall, the food would have to be an immediate danger.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always wondered same!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:11:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the government sectioned people for eating too much, 70% of America would need to be sectioned.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that's what you have to do to become type 2 really
Jracx ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 03:53:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I started as a new nurse in the floor several years ago a similar issue happened to me. Patients glu levels in the 350's and he wants ice cream from me. I refuse his request and try to re educate. Her argues but I re direct him to appropriate food choices thinking it's over.
Next morning my manager calls me into her office and goes over a patient complaint with me. It was this guy complaining that I refused his request for ice cream. I explain the situation and that I felt it was appropriate to restrict him.
Manager in not so many words basically said. "The customer is always right." and I was written up. Years down the road I'and no longer now I just give in and let people make their shitty choices than treat them when the eventually got sicker.
I tell that story anyone people wonder why healthcare is fucked in America.
Precisely why I like watching the doctor on "My 600lb life". That guy takes no prisoners and is straight up with his patients. Sometimes I even feel a little bit bad about it, but they do need it. He tells them that they are going to die if they keep doing what they are doing, if they refuse to do their therapy after surgery he tells them that they are being babies, since this is a life or death situation.
daymcn ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:58:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love that little.old guy. He is awesome
asdf2602 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:26:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know the show but the term 'morbidly obese' has to give people a clue as to their state of health
you know chairs and general seats in every public place, right? there are on trains, on the metro, on the bus, at the doctor, at restaurants, everywhere
All pretty standard in size, based on the medium persons' dimensions. When their ass takes two seats, how come they don't start having some questions?
asdf2602 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure fat people know they are fat. But they may not know that it's a morbid condition.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:23:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obesity has become so commonplace in Western cultures that fat people think they're "normal" sized (because they see each other, all the same level of fat, every day) - the people who used to be seen as monstorously overweight - the 300lb "Fat Lady" in the Opera or at the Freak Shows, 50-10 years ago - are now "fat" (or, "chubby" "fluffy" "curvy" or whatever other euphemism they want to co-opt that doesn't say "has more fat rolls than a seal before hibernation") and people who are morbidly obese - those in scooters because they can't walk that far or those we see on shows like My 600lb Life - they're "I knew I was fat, I didn't know it was this bad"
Denial is a powerful coping mechanism.
asdf2602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure fat people know they are fat. But they may not know that it's a morbid condition.
I worked healthcare in a home for developmentally disabled adults. One of my residents was diabetic and had the mentality of a 4-ish year old, mom made all the decisions.
We made good dinners, usually healthy but not like extreme, but the mom would call every night and tell us to make her daughter eggs and toast or ice cream. Then she would call back about 30m later and ask her daughter if we gave her the snack.
She also made sure we took her daughter out for McDonalds every Saturday and she picked her up on Sundays and took her to Burger King for a snack, the Chinese buffet for lunch, and then to ice cream. Then she would bitch at us that whatever we made for breakfast made her kid's sugar 350. Not a damn thing we could do because mom was "mentally competent".
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can insurance companies refuse to reimburse for that patient? I mean, how can a facility justify billing for services rendered when it is actively working to counteract those services?
daymcn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fulfilling a patient request that will cause a medical intervention that can be billed for? That sounds a little fishy
supah_ ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 07:56:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
walk a mile in a type 1 diabetic's shoes - 350s are not crazy to us. i hope you never have to find out how normal that is.
Here's what the disease is like: eat two identical meals on two different days at the same time of day. Count the same carbs. Take the same insulin based on the scale the db educator or endocrinologist instructed you with. Boom - two totally different numbers.
Also - you can go too high or too low. The lower you are, you risk unconsciousness or brain damage. The higher you are, you risk long term complications which are crazy innumerable, AND a coma resulting in brain damage.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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supah_ ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 08:24:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh I am a type 1 diabetic who sees that number from time to time and just fucking deals with it. We know how to treat a number like 350 and we don't require input on our self-care unless we are seeking out an actual qualified expert. Thanks. No thanks. PCPs don't have any idea compared to endos and endos don't have any idea compared to type 1s.
Walk a DAY in our shoes. You'd see!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:26:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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supah_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:27:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends how often like if it's daily then it's uncontrolled
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, and the point is - a 350 is a number that is sometimes just part of life for many of us. Judging a diabetic on a single blood sugar reading is severely misguided. It only gives a momentary snapshot in someone's condition.
Yeah totally. There's so many things that can affect it. Stress, emotions, really cold or hot weather and much more and also insulin does not get absorbed the same. If you give yourself 10 units sometimes only 8 of can actually be absorbed while other days it's more
No, because as long as they are informed and are of sound mind, they can eat themselves to death.
Also skinny doesn't equal good health. My dad is about 30 lbs overweight and healthier than anyone else skinny or fat in the family. My uncle is 300lbs and watches his diabetes and blood sugar like a hawk. The other uncle is 180 lbs and doesn't watch his blood sugar at all. He'll probably have renal failure soon :(
I can also vouch on the size thing. I'm 5'7" and 122lbs, found out a few years ago I'm borderline Prediabetic. Doc said I was 1 point above normal but that most people now are probably above that range now. It's sad to know that this is "normal" now. Dr gave me some reading suggestions, I also researched and am more mindful and aware of what I ingest now. Feel loads better now. But I really hope things work out for your uncles and that uncle #2 will hopefully take a cue from uncle #1.
Well I was diagnosed with idiopathic gastroparesis about 4-5 years ago; it somehow managed to resolve with occasional mild flare ups. At my sickest, I was 105.
As far as prediabetes, it probably didn't help that school lunches weren't long enough, so I would chow on Doritos, Surge, and sour patch kids...setting up bad habits that carried into adulthood.
Ouch. Also with gastroparesis, so I feel you on that one. I haven't eaten in a few days because I can't cram anything in me. That sucks entirely.
daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not about being healthy at any weight. It's about having a chronic disease that certain restrictions for long term health. Activity aiding in destructive behavior shouldn't be allowed... not attacking you, just the mentality of protecting feeling more than health by the facilty
At that point it might be better for the world for someone that stupid to finally succumb to their own bad decisions.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuck that. I'm a CNA at a hospital, and I'll tell the patient flat out that they can take their diet complaints to the doctor. I'm not feeding into their bad life choices that extend their hospital stay.
Like, I don't particularly understand it all, but when you eat carbs, your body releases insulin, and processes those sugars into whatever your body needs sugars for, and then the waste is tossed out.
If your blood sugar is that high, that means your insulin is not working as intended, and thus your body is not getting what it needs from the sugar you ate, and is telling the brain "Hey yo, that sugar you ate, we can't find it, plz send more." And that's how you get to dangerous levels.
I only think this way, cause my dad doesn't have a sweet tooth, never has, but all of a sudden, he started craving sugary things like candy and soda, and shit, and not feeling well, and that's when he went to the doctor, and found out he had developed diabetes...
So, bear with me here, doesn't their response make sense?
You've got a patient, they are poorly educated, and have an obviously poor relationship with food/eating, as evidenced by their newfound condition.
Their body has not been getting the food/energy that it expects from what they have eaten, the body thinks it's starving.
The brain has just been told that the body is malfunctioning, but the body still is saying "Hey bro, where the hell are those cheetos you just ate an hour ago?"
So at this point the patient, unsatiated by the insulin drip (or whatever), who, since a child has associated food, with full, with energy, is now craving calorie dense food, because they don't feel full, and the brain knows something is amuck. They reach out for comfort, and calories, in ice cream.
The next day, the brain is still adjusting to this new life, it knows that yesterday it ate a ton, and didn't get the energy it expected, so again, it wants calorie dense food, in order to perhaps not allow that to happen again. Green beans don't taste good to this person and offer 30 calories/cup, but pizza has a ton of energy stored inside it's crust and grease, and it tastes amazing; let's get that.
You are asking an adult to change their entire relationship with food, literally overnight.
Yeah, for some people a simple wake up call is all they need, an alcoholic who's friend kills someone behind a wheel drunk driving might sober up immediately, and stay that way for life. But just as easily that alcoholic may just redrown their sorrows the very next night.
On top of all this, the patient may not even have a grasp of "good" and "bad" food, hell pizza has a vegetable sauce on it, and ice cream is a dairy, and both of those things are good for you, right?
You have to remember that food can hold the same power, and it will probably take a lot of work, will power and support to change an entire lifetime of habits, not just a stern talking to by a couple of educated strangers.
Good on you for trying, and starting the conversation, you just have to maybe lower your expectations a little, especially with food related disease.
Apologies if any of that came across as negative, it was not my intention at all.
daymcn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, the brain has been releasing endorphins, rewarding the behavior for years longer than insulin has dropped. The compulsion to eat and escape in food can be over whelming.
Everyone experiences symptoms differently, but for me, a bloodsugar between 180-230ish sometimes feels low and I'll want food. Interestingly, if for whatever reason I decide to "eyeball it" and not check my sugars, I can immediately tell I made the wrong decision. Juice or Coke or whatever tastes much less sweet when my bloodsugars are up.
If they are really high, like 300+ then I just feel icky and sluggish. I usually don't feel like eating at all.
Low bloodsugars can make you feel ravenous. It's not a feeling of an empty stomach or traditional hunger. You can feel your entire body absolutely need food.
Not true. I'm hypoglycemic (have been for years) and I rarely crave sugar. I'll buy a box of cookies, get through a couple over a few weeks, then text my sister to come eat them before the go stale. They usually have by that time.
Your story is n = 1, so just because you don't feel it doesn't mean it isn't true for others. Also, what medical condition are you referring to when you call yourself a "hypoglycemic"? It tends to be a consequence or symptom rather than a disease in itself.
For example, myself and my older sister are both type 1 diabetics and we both have sweet cravings when hypoglycemic. Also there's a medically accepted list of symptoms that can occur with diseases. Not everybody gets all of them every time.
I'm referring to hypoglycemia aka low blood sugar. I thought hypoglycemic made that obvious. Was diagnosed as hypoglycemic when I was 20 by my PCP. My blood glucose has been tested and below 70 while fasting, have done the five hour glucose tolerance test, have had episodes where my blood sugar has dropped to 50s.
Now, eating sugar does reverse the hypoglycemic state. When I have been hypoglycemic, sometimes I've been hungry, but when my blood sugar is low I usually get nauseated, dizzy, angry and combative, shaky and unable to walk or move around.
But craving sugar? No, I'm usually panicked when in a hypoglycemic state.
Edit: whatever to the downvoters. Sick of your crap. Get lost.
As a diabetic medical student I can assure you that I know what hypoglycemia means. What I was getting it was this:
There are 4 hormones that work independently to increase blood sugar, while there is only 1 that decreases it. If there is a diseases that causes all four hormones to get knocked out or dysregulated, I'd love to hear about it or go read more about it. What has your doctor diagnosed you with?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, I'm sorry you have to live with all that daily. I wanna say I'm impressed but feel like it's trivializing. However, I get a cold and I am a big baby, sulking. Glad to know your connecting with your new endo
Yup ...... just tested ..20's .. oh, that's 360+ .. I'm hungry, have to pee but must finish my beer first, then eat like no tomorrow .. no need to worry tho, been at it for 30 yrs. .. no complications to date. In my early 60's .. it's all behind me now ......... lol.
daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The probably knew it was bad for them, but they have a strong addiction, one very much like the addiction for a drug.
Reason and logic is hardly applicable when concerning physical addiction.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you familiar with drug addiction? I can understand food cravings and emotional fulfillment through food, but to compare the two....
Bloodish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:04:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar can definitely be addicting. Not to the point of say, a heroin addiction of course. It's closer to something like a nicotine addiction, but that can still be tough for people to beat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I don't think that makes sugar addiction comparable to drug addiction.
I don't think the only thing preventing people from selling all of their possessions for a hit of sugar is availability.
Actually there have been studies showing that, in certain people, eating can activate the same areas of the brain as cocaine, heroin and other drugs. I don't know if It activates as strongly, but for some people it isn't just an emotional reaction, it is a true physical addiction. In its own way it can be just as problematic. For example, the post above by u/elevensevenone about their father. It is possible that it isn't that he doesn't want to get better, but that he doesn't have the psychological ability to do so. Even after multiple amputations, knowing what he needs to do and why, he continues with the pizza. That sounds like much more than mere cravings.
Even someone who recognizes what they're doing is terrible is going to have trouble, because unlike an alcoholic or a heroin addict, they must continue using their "drug". It's really kind of awful.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen the studies done in rats, which are the only studies I'm aware of comparing cocaine to sugar. If some IRB approved of intentionally getting humans addicted to cocaine I'd love to see those studies, too. There's a big leap to go from "rats will choose sugar rewards over cocaine rewards" to "sugar is as addictive as cocaine in humans." That's just researchers making names for themselves so they can sell books.
If we take away somebody's sugar, are they going to go into full-fledged withdrawal? No way. I get that there is an addictive component to sugar, but there the research I've seen is far from conclusive and it lacks face validity. For the most part I think redditors nit-picking studies on reddit is just for confirmation bias, but I think the lack of face validity here makes this case a bit different.
I have no issue with acknowledging that cocaine is more addictive than sugar! As I said, it activates the same regions of the brain, but that doesn't mean that the effect is equal :) I certainly hope no reputable entities are getting anyone addicted to cocaine. As for withdrawl, it's nothing like what one goes through with cocaine or heroin, but there are symptoms. I think it's not as severe for 3 reasons
Sugar isn't as addictive
The body is more acclimated to processing sugar
It is literally impossible to go 100% without sugar. The body produced sugar naturally, so no one is ever 100% sugar free
My point was more that there is a physical component to some people's problems with food, and thus comparisons between drug addiction and food addiction are valid. After all, nicotine, caffine and alcohol are all acknowledged as addictive, but none of them are as bad as cocaine. I think that sugar would be on about the same level as caffeine or nicotine. Similar symptoms when quitting and such.
Thanks for the answer, always nice to talk to reasonable people :)
I studied under a dietician for about a week in culinary school. The girl I got put under partially worked the children's ward and legit had super similar ordeal... Except the patient was a roughly 300 lb pre-teen. The parents just kept giving him pizza and fatty fried foods and kept saying "oh no its just baby fat he'll grow out of it"
McWaddle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My job is to support the patient, but damn is it hard sometimes. I can only "positively encourage them to select healthy options" so many times :\ If they don't want to eat their vegetables, I can't force them to.
I'm a teacher. This sounds like my job.
QuickBow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quick question, is having headaches after eating a sign of diabetes. My father has been telling me for a while that it is a sign. The only other "sign" I think I have is drinking a lot of water but it's almost all I drink (besides milk) and I work out 1 1/2 hours a day. Even though my diet isn't great.
I would ask your doctor if you are concerned. Checking your blood sugar is quick and easy, and they can do formal testing to pin down the source of your headaches and/or test you for diabetes, which is generally just a blood draw (or series of draws, at intervals) after a period of fasting. It's very easy - I've done it probably a dozen times at this point. Annoying to not eat breakfast, sure, but very easy.
I AM NOT A DOCTOR: Headaches can be a symptom of diabetes. So can excessive thirst. That's not to say that you should read this, panic, and assume you're diabetic - there are lots of other things that it could be. If you drink a lot of water, for example, but don't feel constantly thirsty, then that's not a symptom, unless you're drinking like a truly excessive amount. Headaches have a large number of triggers; stress, noise, hormone fluctuations, and a long, long list of other conditions, including "we don't know." Now, I've personally figured out that one of my migraine triggers is hypoglycemia, but I'm not diabetic. So none of your symptoms are mutually exclusive, know what I'm saying? Working out also has no bearing on whether you becoming diabetic, aside from weight management - I know skinny T2s, and I know plenty of large people [myself included!] that aren't T2.
Anyways. If you're worried, like I said, it's super easy to test for. And if you start noticing worrying symptoms, it could definitely be worth your while to get some labs run. This page has a good rundown of signs and symptoms to watch for. Even if your insurance doesn't cover it, honestly, I'd get tested just for peace of mind. Your MD can order it if you have symptoms or risk factors, and generally speaking, most insurances will cover it in that situation. If you pass with flying colors, then you know you aren't diabetic. If you are, then you can start managing your condition. So yeah - I hate to give such a wishy-washy answer, but there's no hard and fast rule here as far as the soft symptoms go.
I swear, when I was diagnosed with t1d, they wouldn't let me eat and/or drink anything, and I might have been in the 500s at the highest, but when I say anything, I mean I was allowed to have ice chips once every hour or two, I still don't get it, just like I don't get the people who tried to put an IV in my arm while in the ambulance, while talking about how they weren't sure how to do it.
I actually went and looked for it. We were out :\ I called down to the kitchen and had them read off the nutritional information for both the ice cream we had on hand and the applesauce (which is not present on the individual servings) so that I could offer whichever was technically "better". My choices were a 31g (!!) serving of ice cream or an 11g serving of applesauce [in terms of sugar.] The no sugar added ice cream cups I think have 5g of sugar; we just didn't have any at that precise second.
So I got them to eat the applesauce and drink two [personal sized] pitchers of water. Their glucose levels had greatly improved when I checked again about four hours later.
I mean, I agree that there could have been other options. None of us were thrilled about providing applesauce to someone with that glucose level. They had refused everything else, and insisted that they needed something soft and cold. I offered sugar-free jello, but that was shot down too.
It's the sugar. It is just as addictive as cocaine. I'm trying to break myself of eating sugar every day (I grew up with a mom who constantly was baking cookies, brownies, or cinnamon rolls), and it's extremely difficult.
Being a diabetic (diagnosed with a blood sugar of 988) this is one of the safest things to read. For the most part, it's a very easy disease to control. Granted there are generational and other such differences that come into play with how we view it, but outside of having no access to insulin I truly can't fathom why someone would do this
There comes a time when I become so disillusioned with humanity that I begin to think "maybe we should let them kill themselves. Giving them medical treatment would be a waste."
I realize you deal with stupid people every day, so I respect that you can keep on going despite this. I wish you the best of luck in future endeavors.
Wythfyre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honest question: why isn't scolding them a thing? Is it because of free will and all?
As someone who has dealt with an eating disorder/food addiction, I believe that many people with diabetes would benefit from Overeaters Anonymous (OA). I think food addiction in any form is something that more people suffer from than they know- it's more than just anorexia and bulimia.
tl7lmt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as an RN I thank you for your help.
d2beto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my wife few years ago... rehab/hospice, some of these older people would spend hundreds a week on just food for them on top of the regular meals the place provides... she had to quit because her knee basically blew up trying to lift some one really big.
Treczoks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Changing eating habits is tough, especially when the people involved never thought about what they are/were eating.
As a person recently diagnosed with diabetes, I had to attend a course on diet and nutrition. No problem for me (I cook, I can read and understand food labeling, etc), but there were two other kinds of patients there: Two housewives, who have always cooked like they learned from their mom, and had real difficulties understanding food from the fat/protein/carbohydrate view (Why is flour bad? It is flour, not sugar!!!), and some elderly men, who had no clue about food at all apart from eating what their wife cooked and put on their plates.
These kind of people are why I could never go into medicine. I'm in the "harsh truth" camp, so me saying things like "if you keep up this behavior you WILL fucking die" would be likely. I'll leave it to you more tolerant people.
This is scary, but let me give you a different side to consider. If you are massively lacking in insulin, especially the basal rate, you are effectively starving your cells. Sugar won't get in.
Which is why newly discovered type 1 diabetics are most often ridiculously thin - they are starving and metabolizing all their available fat.
So ... at high blood sugar levels and without insulin most people CRAVE sugar in a way you cannot imagine. It's not going to help that they are half delirious - they only thing they can typically think of is drinking and then sugar (well .. or any carb source).
It takes knowledge and willpower to make sure the insulin resistance is overcome first, the blood acidity returns to normal and then eat some carbs with a sufficient amount of insulin to cover them.
Seriously? Our patients with diabetes are on carb restriction, so when they call to order their meals, they can be an idiot and order a hamburger for lunch, but you'd better believe dietary will say, "do you want a small garden salad with no dressing as your side or just nothing at all?" because they shut that shit down immediately. The computer won't even let them input their meal order if it goes over the carb count. And dietary has to check in with the nurse to make sure the five tic patients have already had their sugar checked before actually delivering the plates to the rooms.
Damn.
Like I've legitimately asked noncompliant diabetic patients how attached they are to their feet. Your hospital is whack.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then immediately asked for ice cream. Because that'll totally solve the problem
well...if you would've given that patient enough ice cream it would've solved the problem. Permanently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how much of this type of behaviour stems from childhood. My daughter is just under a year and we give her mostly plain assed veggies. I can't imagine how someone is going to like the taste of broccoil, etc. if they start out on chicken fingers, ketchup, and cupcakes.
ungov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know who is 50 has type 1 diabetes, and he still drinks a lot. Surely not the best idea?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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I fully understand you. I gave birth in hospital one week ago, and shared the room with a young woman, that was hospitalized for having pregnancy diabetes, obviously not giving a fuck about it and ending with high blood pressure and blood sugar that it was an immediate danger for the baby, and so she needed to be monitored in hospital. While being told several times about the danger, and that she is only supposed to eat the diabetic menu, she got from the hospital, she some how cheated in snacks, and denied to do so, even when the doctor told her that she cant lie to the sugar test. Additional managed to give the whole room the odor of a smokers lounge. You could see the desperation of the doctors and nurses, trying to help, while being sabotaged by the person they tried to help.
Klashus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad's was over 1200 when he finally went in. Got thirst and proceed to pound juice and such kept making it worse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure you've been asked but doesn't your ducking hospital have dietary restrictions? Diabetic patients in our hospital can't even order the shit. The cafeteria just says they can't have it.
losian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't a lot of fruit just lots of sugar anyways with little dietary benefit otherwise?
As a diabetic, one of the most annoying things is that when your sugar is high you get hungry. Like how is that supposed to help? But it never fails, if I am ravenous at a random time (say 2 pm) my sugar is high...
I am very close to someone who has an over eating disorder. It may sound like they just don't care and just want to make these bad decisions but, it can actually be an addiction that just as hard to quit as any drug. The person I know is someone I love very much and have known for a long time. I can tell as soon as they are triggered, and they cannot control their actions. It is literally all they can think about and the only thing in there mind. They could sit down and eat a whole cake while crying because something in them needs it but they know they need to stop but, stopping can be extremely difficult. So in the future, if you have another patient such as the one you described point them towards Over Eaters Anonymous. They are helping my friend to treat the addiction.
What's a normal blood sugar level? I remember my best friend discovered he had Type 1 Diabetes in high school when he came back from a field trip looking like a walking corpse, his parents took him to the doctor, and it turned out his blood sugar was over 700.
For a healthy adult without diabetes, it's between 70 and 99 mg/dl. Most people will test higher within a few hours of eating a meal; the goal is <140 two hours after a meal. <120 at bedtime (allowance for the fact that you're going to be asleep for a while.)
700 is go-to-the-ER high. A doctor would be able to give you better anecdotes. The diabetics I deal with frequently come back in the mid-200s; not good, but not immediately concerning for established diabetics; usually this means that they either haven't had their meds yet, have been eating poorly, or need a dosage adjustment. Anything over 350 and I run down the hall to the nurse (typically this is the point where people start having signs/symptoms.) 500-600+ is where serious damage is being done. We immediately transfer hospital if they get we can't bring it down from the 500-600 range or they have s/s that merit it (typically, if they're at 600+, they do.)
Personally, I've never seen higher than the 600s, but I also work with people who have nurses that keep them on top of their medication. I know a couple people who work in hospitals that have seen people with blood glucose levels in the 1000+ range; this is the point where people start falling into diabetic comas and straight-up dying. It's very dangerous. That's why uncontrolled diabetes is so scary - it's not just being thirsty and the neuropathy (which, btw, is a sign that things are not good); diabetes can literally kill you, just like that.
Man, the food service made fun of me after post op when I didn't want their chicken fingers and honey mustard, and requested the veggies and hummus instead. What's the middle ground?
Translation for non-medical people. DKA = Diabetic Ketoacidosis. DKA can occur in diabetics for a variety of reasons, but a common one seen in the emergency room is simple non-compliance with medication.
A type 1 diabetic is supposed to take insulin so that when the food they eat is turned into glucose the cells can actually use it. If they don't take their insulin their blood glucose level (aka blood sugar, normal is 80-120) builds up, eventually causing their kidneys to start trying to filter it out to keep things steady(dieresis is the medical term for frequent pissing. In this case it's called osmotic diuresis aka frequently pissing to try and dilute/remove an excess of something, in this case glucose).
At the same time the body also turns to burning fat cells to keep running. Burning fat produces ketones as a side effect and the increased ketones in your blood make it more acidic than normal (the "keto" and "acidosis" in diabetic ketoacidosis). Ketones are similar to acetone and have a sweet smell. The body will try and get rid of this byproduct by excreting it in urine, sweat, saliva, etc. The root of the term Diabetes Mellitus (the full name for the disease) comes from greek/latin and means sweet/honey frequent urination, referencing the fact that an untreated type 1 diabetic will likely be pissing out sweet smelling urine like crazy due to the above reasons.
There are a lot of other processes at work that make it worse, and all of this is about 10x more complex than what I've said, but a common theme when this is the problem is that the person seems blissfully unaware of how their current actions are only making them worse.
I'm just going to note here that DKA is not the same as dietary ketosis. You can be in ketosis and producing ketones with no problem. DKA is mostly a problem for diabetics and eating low or even no carbs will not induce it in a normal, healthy person. If anyone wants more info, check out the side bar in /r/keto
I actually looked at your username first and wondered if you were. I've been on keto for a little over 2 years now, but I often see people get it confused with DKA so thought I'd chime in :)
A diabetic making ketones isn't always bad, many diabetics follow a low carb or keto diet and are fat adapted. If blood glucose levels are kept in normal range and there is no dehydration, producing ketones is not a problem and will not lead to DKA.
I'm actually really proud of myself for picking up the meaning of DKA from context clues. Didn't really know anything about it, though, so I appreciate the in-depth comment!
The thing with people like the one in OP's story is that DKA isn't even that fucking hard to treat, all the treatment entails is dialing up a couple of extra units of insulin and pissing on a stick, but people let themselves turn it into a medical fucking emergency.
I'm not in the medical field but I did recently learn about DKA. My dad has been diabetic ever since he had pancratitis. He had it so bad that his organs started shutting down and it pretty much killed all viable tissue in his pancreas. He ended up with a pseudo syst (spelling) the size of a football. Anyway, DKA isn't always caused by non-compliance. My dad's case was actually brought about when his PCP decided to up and change his insulin even though he wasn't having issues with the insulin he was on. The new insulin didn't work nearly as well and we just could not get his sugar under control. We had no prior knowledge of DKA and he nearly died because of it. He's doing well now, though.
At least they didn't get that painful potassium IV (I've been DKA once and I never plan on it again, if not just to avoid that IV). Did fluid just go straight through?
I guess the body acclimates but I welcome death at 500, like literally everything is wrong. I can't imagine doubling that. Did their acidic blood eat through 3 decks of the ship?
The ph of his blood was becoming very acidic. All the crap you hear about eating certain diets to keep away the cancer because of your ph is bullshit. Normal blood glucose 60-99. Normal potassium is 3.5-4.5(or 5 depending on the reference). Bicarb is 22-28.
The last one is important because bicarb is the buffer (keeps acid levels low) and it was all gone. Potassium is A big deal because it regulates how muscles contact, especially the heart. You're heart is like goldilocks. Not too much potassium or too little the amount needs to be juuuust right. If it's not then your heart starts to beat funny and I get to break your ribs doing CPR.
All the crap you hear about eating certain diets to keep away the cancer because of your ph is bullshit.
I had to sit and hear a relative ramble about this for hours like it's going to magically cure my grandma of lung cancer. Kind of wanted to push him out of the car.
Could be poor education. Diabetics are taught 'sick day rules' involving monitoring their sugar more often, frequent snacks to keep you glucose from dropping, and drinking enough water. Pedialite may have been suggested as a way to keep hydrated and high enough glucose if a person doesn't feel like eating that day.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that sucks! i hope you're on the mend & feeling better.
chezmonue ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 01:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Detroit hospital vendor here. I once saw a family sitting around a table in the cardiology waiting area eating a box of fried chicken. Next visit "No food allowed" sign.
Oh, I was off by few magnitudes. Maple syrup is 14 grams per tablespoon, which is roughly 14 mL, ergo 1g/mL. But I didn't account for dL. So maple syrup is 100,000 mg/dL, because 1 g/mL is 1000 mg/mL, and then there are 100 mL per dL, so 100,000 mg/dL.
When my blood sugar is very high, it weirdly feels like my blood is solidifying.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
actually, when you're low and check your bg it's a lot more "runny" than when your numbers are high. you might have expected this might happen - it does!
There is something to be said about tolerance levels. A diabetic who has been just barely taking care of themselves can build up a crazy high tolerance to high BG while getting low BG symptoms in the 200s. It's not a good thing but that tolerance can move to make the "normal" non-symptomatic range move.
I had mine move from 90-140ish to the 150-200ish after diabetic burn out and a massively bad year caused a depressing spiral. To feel low at 100 is weird; To feel low at your target (120) is outright discouraging. I'm still working to beat it back down but it's a tough road.
Source: Personal experience and Endo at the Joslin clinic.
I used to feel low at around 6 (around 106 in your measurement). It's so weird and disheartening. PM me if you ever want to vent!
TmickyD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been a type one for nearly 20 years now and I've had a handful of times where my bloodsugar was over 600. Above that, your meter gives you a friendly "HI." Other than thirst and sometimes a headache, high bloodsugars generally don't give me too many symptoms. I've never felt faint from a high bloodsugar.
I've also been below 20 a few times. Those make me feel like passing out, but it still hasn't happened yet! Fingers crossed haha.
Also type 1 (10 years). Depending on how high my blood sugar is, I can have vicious symptoms - peeing constantly (like don't even bother to leave the bathroom), extreme migraine, vomiting, etc. Just goes to show how individual a disease it is.
If your body produces even just the smallest bit of insulin (which is basically everyone except bad type 1 DM) then it can keep you out of DKA for a long time.
I should know this for sure, but doesn't the brain have largely concentration independent uptake of blood glucose? Unlike for example the retinas where glucose can accumulate if blood glucose remains elevated for a long time.
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also seen a blood alcohol level of .69 bahaha
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like some serious eating disorder shit :[
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people with diabetes sometimes deal with denial :( also - there's a thing called "diabulemia" which is when ppl purposely don't take their insulin to lose weight. it's very sad to read when someone with only 10 years into the disease is going blind or having to have something amputated. it actually happens. :(
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed it is. It's very scary. I once saw a post by a young lady in a fb support group asking questions about amputation. She said she was diagnosed at age 11 and she was only like 19 and already dealing with an amputation because of diabulemia. :( Unfortunately - it's a "thing". :(
Or absolute lack of self control, which is often what gets people to that point. I love cakes, pies, eclairs- I could eat 5 lbs of them if I could. But will I? Probably not, cause I have some self control.
Kiwi-98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not having mental control over how much you eat is basically binge eating disorder, so they're right actually.
I could technically not have control of punching people in the face or shitting my pants in public if I want to, right? It's such a first world problem. I grew up in Soviet Russia and we had no food at all in the stores. People would laugh at this "disease". If you've got nothing in the fridge, are you gonna eat it? No. So stop buying damn food, problem solved.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna say, now I know how I want to die. I used to think I wanted to suffocate beneath a horde of horny Scandinavian girls, but just jacking my blood sugar out of the park (and what you have to do to get there) just sounds so ... epic.
PyroDesu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not both? Combining two of the greatest pleasures of mankind into one epic death!
Polar87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The day before admission to the hospital, he drank 12 liters of Coca-Cola, six cans of pineapple juice with sugar, several liters of orange juice, and sugared water. He attributed his thirst to hot weather.
Dear God
MandiSue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When your sugar is really high you get crazy thirsty (you also piss constantly). Your body is trying to dump the extra sugar, and one of the first ways is through the kidneys. So that volume of fluid doesn't shock me. Why he couldn't drink a glass of fucking water at all, however, I cannot explain.
Had something very similar. DM patient with a long history of noncompliance, in for foot pain. She was 3 weeks post metatarsal amputation. Upon removal of the bandage the smell of anaerobes hit you like a truck. She had osteo and an A1C of 12%. Her sugars had been >500 the entire stay despite being on U-500 for several days. She was later found with the biggest soda I've ever seen in my life, brought in by her 16 year old, eldest daughter of 7.
I've been a type one for almost ten years, diagnosed at almost 900. Fortunately I wasn't in DKA (I don't really know how?) and I can tell you with a blood sugar that high you are literally starving. I was so hungry all the time even though I would eat everything in sight.
When you have that much ketones your body isn't getting any nourishment. Your body is urinating it all out and then using your fat and muscle stores to try and keep you going.
At that point, I would think he'd be a little out of it and brought food because he assumed there'd be a wait and he was crazy hungry.
Yes logic tells you "I shouldn't eat" but your body says "I'm so hungry and weak I feel like I might die", so it can be hard to not eat.
Detroit story from one of my med school ED attendings who did his residency there. Pelvic exams in his ED were so common they'd line all the women up in a row of beds in the same room and just go from bed to bed assembly line style while the ladies were all just chit chatting with each other.
One lady complaining of pelvic pain was found to have a roll of cash and a crack pipe inside her vagina which she placed there to hide from her pimp, but forgot about. One of the female residents walked over to the lady and said "Ma'am, your vagina is not a purse" and handed the disgusting shit back to her.
Pretty sure noncompliance and lack of medical knowledge is a thing everywhere.
I'm an RN, not a doctor, but anyway...had a long-term patient once with a long list of chronic diseases, including wildly uncontrolled diabetes (and the most brittle diabetic I've seen to this day), chronic renal failure requiring dialysis, and sky high blood pressure. This is actually just the tip of the iceberg, but I want to keep this short. Anyway, she'd constantly complain of having nausea and refuse to eat the meals the hospital provided her. But then, I'd walk in later and find her eating potato chips and chocolate while washing it down with regular pop (not the diet kind). Oh, and she'd go through jars and jars of Cheeze Whiz even though she was lactose intolerant and C. diff positive (and no, she could not toilet herself).
Frustrating as fuck.
Biocidal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For those unaware, DKA stands for Diabetic Ketoacidosis, basically meaning the pH of the blood has become so acidic from hyperglycemia and chemicals called ketones. Basically results from non compliance with medication/treatment and is no joking matter.
Doing my residency here in Detroit. It's been a great experience but patient's compliance, access to health care and poor medical literacy has been extremely frustrating
Don't blame Detroit. I have a nephew in New Mexico, pushing 400 pounds, Type II diabetes; his mother had it also, I don't think he knows what the word exercise means, eats everything and soda is a food group to him.
Family has begged him to go to a weight specialist doctor. He went to some quack that told him to get a juicer machine.
I figure I will bury him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even 120 is high HOLY SHIT
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
800? And conscious?
PineHand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a T1 diabetic; what sort of test kits do y'all have?? My meter (and every one I've had) gives a "too high to read" answer above 600(?) mg/dL
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We can do a metabolic panel to check blood sugars also
fritopie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk what it's like to be nauseas from your sugar being sky high, buuuut the last thing I want to do when I feel like puking/am puking is eat... wtf. And I'm a big time emotional/stress eater. Something else has got to be wrong there...
I had an emaciated patient somewhat recently whose glucose was in the 1200s... 7 years old and weighed only 17 kg and had a diaper on. Poor kid has a rough life ahead.
To be fair Detroit has been on the receiving end of a multi decade ass fucking from hell.Rangeing from there jobs, to health, education and houseing.
bexylee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow
Just wow.
Being a diabetic myself the last thing I'd wanna do when vomiting from DKA would be to eat gummy worms.. happened once in my 20 years of having the disease. Wouldn't wish it upon anyone! Idiot male
RaceHard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me did you say their glucose was at 800? My sisters freaks out if she hits 160+ like how does a human even survive 800?
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would noncompliance and lack of medical knowledge be ok with you? Why are you on the internet ridiculing patients instead of volunteering to educate? You know our city has the short end of the stick in education. People in mortal peril because of lack of education: It's not funny.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't doubt for a second there are some just really dumb people out there. But, not so much you, but lots of replies you got... You know, no one criticizes the Elephant Man for sleeping laying down. The desire to be normal is a powerful one, and as with anything some struggle more than others.
I dunno if we can all agree that adults should be responsible for taking care of themselves, then maybe people killing themselves faster isn't something we should be trying to prevent. Of course that this might (does?) increase medical costs in countries with universal health care is a bad thing.
Jesus. I have had DKA exactly once (I was travelling and not taking proper care of myself, obviously) and I seriously felt like I was dying. I don't think I ate for three or four days. The idea of eating anything, let alone candy, would have been unfathomable.
I have no idea what my BSL was in comparison - Australians use a different unit of measurement, but I'd say it was around 50mmols.
When I was diagnosed with diabetes my blood sugar was 700. I had no symptoms (that I knew of at the time) and just felt a little tired. My doctor called me and told me to go to the hospital immediately after results from labs came back that we had only taken because I was loosing weight unexpectedly.
I had just drank a giant thing of sweet tea.
As someone who has had many pancreas failures in the family I've come to terms that it's probably going to happen to me and did my research about diabetes (through experiences family has had and online about other things) and reading this story just made me feel disgusted that people won't research and properly take care of a disease they have...
I don't know how your capitalist healthcare system works but is there any possibility that their insurance provider would refuse to fund treatment if they wilfully ignore medical advice?
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of our patients don't have insurance actually. Or they are on Medicare/Medicaid
Well, this is more about addiction than anything else. Wondering why some people won't stop eating bad food when it's clearly killing them is like wondering why an alcoholic won't stop drinking. How often does telling people the consequences of their actions actually help them break their addiction?
Had a diabetic patient tell me the only thing she could eat was donuts without getting nauseous. She was only 30 with ulcers eating at both feet and bedridden.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL America uses different units to measure blood sugar (800 mg/dl = 44.44444 mmol/l). I was confused.
Oh man I had a patient with diabetes, chf, hypertension, copd at 40 years old. Sugars were in the 300s, BP was 180/110, anemic. Just everything bad and when I go in to interview her she's eating take out Chinese, soy sauce all up in that bad boy, with an extra large coke
zerbey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lost a friend to this, the end results of untreated diabetes are very unpleasant. He lost his foot to it and the fingers of one hand. He couldn't walk because he was too weak. He was in so much pain he lived on morphine just to function. He died of heart failure waiting for a kidney transplant.
Listen to your Doctor when they tell you to treat your diabetes.
Nurse here. I had a pt in DKA once whose glucose was in the 900s. I started her insulin drip and she asked me for a Pepsi.
You can't make this shit up.
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funniest is when they're like "can I get a sandwich? Im diabetic"
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know that a protein with a carb is what a diabetic should be snacking on, right?
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of patients use the excuse of diabetes to get food as soon as they get in the room
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know it's an excuse?
Do you know their bg number?
If they have waited for hours for a room, it's likely low - and they are doing the right thing.
Or would you rather revive them?
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their bg is checked in triage if they're diabetic, no matter what. You can see in the computer how long they've been waiting. If they look lethargic, a repeat can be done. We generally don't feed patients until blood work is done.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could it be because the disease literally CAUSES THIRST!?!?!?!?
You are most likely thinking of diabetes insupidus rather than diabetes mellitus. Diabetes insipidus is the one that's known for causing insane thirstiness/peeing all the time. Not saying it can't happen in diabetes mellitus, but it's not known for it.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I should have clarified what I meant. If diabetes mellitus is well-controlled, it shouldn't cause the excessive thirstiness/urination. Obviously, this young woman's was not.
She had been seen for the same thing multiple times in our ER, however, and has been admitted to our hospital a bunch of times for the same. In her case, it's definitely not lack of education on the topic, as we (her nurses) discuss it with her every time, as well as case management. It's really one of those situations where they know better, but just don't care. :(
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok I see.
Listen - It isn't necessarily true that she doesn't care. It could be denial. People with diabetes go through it. It's an invisible disease and it's possible to skate for a while with it.
It could be depression. People with diabetes are more prone to it, I was never told this and suffered for years with daily panic attacks and avoiding tests. It's far more complicated than one might imagine.
I was diagnosed at age 23. I didn't test but once a day for about 10 years. I would flinch every time i did a blood test. I had to come to terms with self-care drop my apprehension and ask for better from myself with the help of a compassionate doctor and getting treatment for anxiety/depression.
It seems like anyone would follow instructions and be fine, but there's a human being in the mix -which means - it's just not that simple.
tuki ยท 8966 points ยท Posted at 22:46:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient comes in at 2am for insomnia, clearly tweaking her brains out, heart rate 200. Can't sit still, bouncing off the walls. I suggest maybe easing up on the cocaine. "But doctor, I LOVE cocaine." K.
Cjpinto47 ยท 2811 points ยท Posted at 23:51:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine her pulling out a shit load of cocaine at the spot and just ramming it to her nose.
Well they're amphetamines, thats exactly what they were made to do for decades before someone realized they had the opposite effect on naturally hyperactive people.
Edit: guys im using a gross oversimplification as an example, stop trying to explain to me how it "actually" works.
Z0di ยท 289 points ยท Posted at 01:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then explain why I'm a lazy sack of shit who is a focused lazy sack of shit when on adderall?
Medication giving you the ability to focus does not automatically also give you the will to do so productively. Medicine has yet to solve that one, barring application of one heavy boot, PR, PRN.
Z0di ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:52:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There needs to be a pill for that. maybe we can put cocaine in pill form?
madsci ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:22:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wellbutrin was awful. It was all "side effect of the day" and no upside.
Strattera worked great, for a while. It was the first thing my doctor put me on and I came in to work and spent probably a minute just starting at my hand on my desk because I could. I could sit there for a full minute without fidgeting or having my mind wander. It was like living next to a construction site and then all of the equipment shuts off at once and it's perfectly quiet.
ehco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My God. I would do anything for that. My family hates me because I'm constntly jiggling my legs (which mkes the floor/table/couch rock) and my friends hate watching anything with me because I have to get up and walk out of the room to smoke/get a drink of water/put my empty glass back/pat the dog etc etc. every 20 minutes without fail. I tell them not to pause the movie /show but they always do.
It's hell at work and I constantly have terrible imposter syndrome because I find it very hard to get into flow state - and computer programming has lots of stops and starts.
Yet I've never been diagnosed with ADHD because I'm worried my doctor will just think I'm drug-seeking if I ask about it.
madsci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See your doctor. There are non-stimulant options that really don't invite abuse. Strattera is one of them, and my doctor started me on that one because I already had a tic disorder and he didn't want to risk making it worse with stimulants. (Seems to actually be better now, or at least I don't notice it as much.) Wellbutrin is another but it didn't really work for me.
It was a pain to get my insurance company to approve it, because Ritalin is super cheap compared to Strattera. But as my doctor put it, it's a blunt instrument and it's not good for everyone. I hated it.
It's been so long that I can't remember all of the side effects I had with Strattera. Burning ejaculation was one of them. 'Decoupling of orgasm and ejaculation' was how the literature put another. When I went looking for support groups online, what I found was that the vast majority of the people there were not patients themselves - they were there about their juvenile children. I guarantee most teenagers aren't going to report side effects like that to their parents, so keep that in mind when researching options as an adult. I'd probably have stuck with it anyway if it had kept being as effective as it had at the start. As it turned out, my job situation changed and being self-employed full time gave me more ability to find other ways to manage my ADD.
Now it's changed again. I'm a programmer too, but my company has grown and there are days when I literally cannot go more than 10 minutes without an interruption for 8 hours or more. Adderall is sometimes counter-productive on those days. I can get into the flow state easier, but shifting gears is jarring and it can make me super irritable. My employees have come to expect a string of obscenities out of me every time my office phone rings.
So keep in mind that you'll still need to work on external factors, too. The drugs don't magically fix everything, but they can certainly help. When I can work after hours with no interruptions, I can get into the zone in a way I haven't since I was a teenager and programming on a C-128 or a 386 late into the night.
My family definitely notices the difference, too. The pen I carry in my pocket probably hasn't been disassembled and reassembled in months. When I first started Strattera, my girlfriend at the time kept thinking she had something on her face that I was staring at - because I was maintaining eye contact.
See if you can start on one of the non-stimulants. The stimulants don't have to be that bad, but I did have to switch to decaf.
ehco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks so much for the detailed reply - I think I'll take the leap and bring it up to my doctor. In im Australia so the cost factor of prescriptions is minimal ($6 for a month of my anti deps citalopram and $25 for my sleeping pills zopiclone which is the most expensive script I've ever had)
Sheesh 'Decoupling of orgasm and ejaculation' that sounds terrible lol! I'm a woman & I'll check out the side effects closely anyway - but if something works I'll probably put up with a fair few side effects because this affects my job so badly (and my perception of how competent (read: incompetent) I am at my job which causes me a massive amount of stress)
I've managed my 'hyperactivity' solely without drugs so far so I'm just hoping they might make things a bit easier sometimes, I know hoping for a silver bullet is just wishful thinking, but I did go until 30 years old before I 'gave in' and tried antidepressants (I was brought up in a family which frowns upon the 'non-wholesomeness' of medication - especially on-going medication) and now I kick myself that I didn't try them earlier since they do so well for me and I don't seem to have any side effects - all of a sudden it was like 'wow! so this is how everyone else feels all the time! No wonder it doesn't seem such a monumental effort for them like it feels for me!' and I no longer have frequent suicidal rumination. I went my entire 20s trying cognitive behavioural therapy etc etc to mange my depression, convinced it was just a matter of willpower and I was just a lazy, ungrateful sod...sheesh.
madsci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:47 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, don't underestimate what a minor variation in brain chemistry can do.
Strattera didn't cost me any more out of pocket than my usual copay, but the insurance company pays more for it and they like to steer doctors toward things like Ritalin that aren't covered by patents anymore and have cheap generics on the market. Not sure how it works down there.
I'll throw in one more warning, that hopefully won't matter so much if you're working for someone else - Adderall seems to extend my reach as much as my grasp. I found myself willing to tackle a new architecture and new development tools and I significantly expanded the scope of some of my projects.
Since there are no externally-imposed boundaries on what exactly my job is, it's easy for me to reach a point where there are just not enough hours in the day to do everything. I worked more than 80 hours over the week of Christmas and felt like I barely made any progress. I have to say 'no' to customers more and I have to very consciously narrow the scope of what I'm working on or I'll keep slipping delivery dates despite the increased productivity.
Nope. I am on Adderall and Wellbutrin. Still a lazy sack of shit. I have ADHD.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:34:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Focus has nothing to do with motivation. Taking the Adderall, you might be able to sit still through homework for example, but you still have to make the choice to get up and start on it.
You are naturally going to struggle with motivation. ADHD has prevented you from reliably being able to focus on necessary tasks. You're behind right now, but if you can just manage to start (even if you quit in 5 minutes) everyday, you'll find it easier to sit down. That 5 minutes will become ten minutes eventually, until you can just decide to do whatever you need to.
I take Adderall for ADHD as well, and considering talking to my psychiatrist about Wellbutrin (For some reason Depression hasn't killed my sex drive, and Wellbutrin should preserve that hehe).
Good luck with your sex drive when you first start taking Welbutrin. For the first three weeks to a month, the thought of sex barely even crossed my mind. It was an odd time for me then. I'm currently taking 30mg Adderall, 300mg Welbutrin. Depression is still there, but all of the negative thoughts and feelings have faded. I definitely recommend talking to your psychiatrist about it if you're depressed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely recommend talking to your psychiatrist about it if you're depressed.
I'm kinda in a weird spot, so I don't know really. I can't say I'm sad, because I'm generally emotionally numb except for circumstances I can count on two hands. My daily state is merely neutral, or I guess you could say binary between liking a thing or not.
I have to compare myself behaviorally, and that last sentence hints at my biggest "wtf is going on" for considering it. I've always procrastinated on things like work, but it's like I'm procrastinating with fun stuff too. I still enjoy hobbies if I can pull a miracle out of my ass and sit down to start. It's just that I'll wake up and think "I want to play some Disc Golf today, or go play some video games", except... I just won't. Internally I'm telling myself to go do something, but my hand just keeps scrolling through the same 10 websites or Youtube I browse everyday.
Depression affects people differently. I was like you for the majority of my life. Totally neutral about everything because I repressed all my emotions. Somewhere along the way my brain decided it was better to feel nothing than to feel sad.
A huge indication of depression is loss of interest in things that make you happy. I play video games all the time, but I knew when I replaced my gaming with sleeping and crying that I was depressed.
I broke up with my girlfriend because I thought she could do better. I lost my job because I wasn't really motivated to do well. Ended up in a psych ward for a little over a week. It was a bad time, but I also see it as necessary now. The experience I had there was a life changing experience. I met some really interesting people, and heard other people's stories.
I'm currently trying to rebuild my life, and welbutrin is definitely making it a lot easier for me. Sorry for the wall of text.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:10 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That really sucks man, I hope it gets better.
A huge indication of depression is loss of interest in things that make you happy. I play video games all the time, but I knew when I replaced my gaming with sleeping and crying that I was depressed.
It's hard to describe in my case. I'm still interested in playing video games or fun stuff, and still enjoy them. I just cant make myself do these things anymore, at an increasing rate. It's like my brain wants these things, but my body is avoiding them. I can't make myself click that icon for a game, even when I'm at the computer. Hell, I wanted to play Pathologic last night, but ended up spending 8 hours browsing the damn Final Fantasy wiki for whatever reason.
As for emotions, they're aren't something I've tried to suppress. They have just been extremely intermittent from day one. For example, we've both experienced the feeling of being inadequate towards a wife/girlfriend. My wife is right there, and with certainty she could do better than a lazy shit like me. Thinking that or "You're beve going to be successful if you don't do X" is the same as "I need to brush my teeth". If anything, I'm upset that I don't feel upset about negative internal thoughts.
sairyn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I already stutter, but quite a few ADHD meds make me silently echo my words. Like, I'd mouth the words I just said.
It got weird when I started mouthing my stutters
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that's echolalia. One of my friends had it naturally - he would say the last few words of your sentence a millisecond after you did - I never thought too much of it - I just figured it was his brain skipping to the end of what I said to more efficiently queue up what his response would be... I was a bit weird /over-analysing conversations etc too so it never worried me.
Yeah it's sorta crazy to me that it's used so much. It has a ton of abuse potential. And it's easy to OD on, especially with the sustained release dosage forms. If you're curious compare it's structure to that of methcathinone, tons of structure activity similarity.
I am confused are you trying to say that wellburtin is a cocaine analog? Like the snri anti depressant? Because a true cocaine analog is ritalin. If you google ritalin it comes up as a cocaine analog used to treat adhd bla bla bla.
Edit : well I'll be damned although a better bet is definitely ritalin/focalin for that cocaine like feel
Oh no, I had just pursued the tangent about it being similar to bath salts. As far as analogues go, it does have similarities to amphetamines, but it has a specific similarity to bath salts(the street name for the drugs). Wellbutrin is mainly used in depression for the most part.
Can I hire a dominatrix to help me get my homework done, and will Kaiser cover it?
madsci ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 04:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It helps a great deal with my focus, but it doesn't necessarily help me get started. Someone taught me a trick that works pretty well most days - don't set out to do hours of work. Just settle for 5 minutes of whatever it is. It's easier to get started when you're only committing to 5 minutes, but (at least for me) that's usually plenty of time for me to get focused on what I'm supposed to be doing. The next hour is easier than those first 30 seconds.
GenieBus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:53:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do this too. It is so helpful.
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hella yes. This is the ONLY way I get anything done. Even like, having a shower.
madsci ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I go a step beyond that, like when I kind of space out in the morning with my shoes half tied - I have to pretend like I'm a meat puppet and someone else is pulling the strings and making my body move. Only really works with mechanical stuff that doesn't require a lot of thought, but it still helps get me moving.
ehco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've found talking to myself as another person can help too - it's easier to tell someone else what to do than take your own advice (when you have no willpower like me) so I find talking to myself like a kid like "Now we're going to have breakfast" is stacks easier to follow kind of on autopilot, wheras left to my own devices I'll be distracted by some bullshit until i'm going to be late for work, then cursing myself cos I didn't even get my shit together enough to eat breakfast etc. Also great for talking myself down from panic-y states, breaking everything into baby steps and guiding myself though like I was helping someone else. Kind of fucked up I am happy to treat someone else nicely but can't treat myself nicely automatically/'as myself'
I was diagnosed with ADHD and then depression. Treated for it for over 12 years, never really helped me be less lazy or anything. A few months ago, new doctor was like "hey, so you actually just have bipolar II..." The inability to pay attention and periods of hyperactivity were really just hypomania, and the ADHD medications sometimes made it even worse.
So there's the possibility of misdiagnosis.
I had the opposite happen. Was diagnosed with BP but the meds were constantly making me feel terrible. Few years down the line I get a new therapist who digs a bit deeper. Now I've been on ADHD meds for almost a year and have been the most productive and happiest that I can remember since childhood.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:44:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm adhd and bipolar 2. Shits fun. Was diagnosed with bp first and the psychriatrist said they think I had adhd comorbid with BP blah blah blah.
Sometimes the meds work sometimes they dont.
one of my best friends has that diagnosis and he's one of the most beautiful, intelligent and genius creatures that graces this earth. The way he explains to me in how the emotional gravitas of everything is a constant cycle of happiness, excitement and depression. He calls it being beautifully tragic. Beats having ADHD and APD from his perspective so..
We fill for a LOT of amphetamines at my pharmacy, we run out almost every month. A lot of doctors are way too quick to label anything and everything ADHD nowadays.
Maybe really lax pharmacies, my manager is a huge stickler about that kind of thing and so we're kept pretty airtight. The bigger problem is that parents take their kids in for normal kid energy, the doc calls it ADHD, and they throw around stimulants like candy. I imagine most of our fills that end up abused are due to college students, not tweakers. Heroin is our drug of choice around here anyway, so people try to get opioids out of us with fake scripts,early fills, etc way more than stimulants. The problem is the doctors want to prescribe a lot more of them than the DEA allows us.
I'm not saying the tweakers are gaming the pharmacy directly. I'm saying they're gaming doctors to game the pharmacy. Because doctors don't talk to each other. Because the medical-records system for prescriptions is a bunch of scribbles on notepaper that get thrown away immediately. It's built to be abused.
It's not quite that simple. Even if doctors don't talk to eachother, pharmacies do. The government tracks every controlled substance fill via SSN. If I'm in Florida and you try to fill your Vyvanse with me, I'm going to run a report through the government that will tell me when and where you got any controlled substance. If you filled another Vyvanse in Alasks 3 days ago at a different chain and then flew over here to try to get another filled, we will see that and refuse or confiscate the script (and likely inform the doctor). The same thing happens multiple times every month. Pt is on one pain med from doctor A, and they get another pain med from doctor B. We call doctor B to see if he was aware that the pt was already getting another med from a different doctor. If he wasn't, they usually ask us to shred it and refer the pt back to doctor A. If they are aware and want it filled, then it's their call and we will fill it, although we will keep an eye on that doctor to make sure he isn't gaming the system (2 have, in my area in the last couple years) at which point we contact the boards of Pharmacy and Medicine and they revoke their DEA number or license to practice if they find it necessary.
That's more likely just the store. Our volume has been increasing but our corporate overlords think that more sales = fewer people needed for whatever reason, so they cut our hours. Then new people get hired but they rarely last more than a month or two because the job sucks and pays shit, so we're short again. It's a fucking mess. At my store 2 hour waits during the week and 3 hours on weekends are fairly common now.
The way Adderall, amphetamines and even caffeine work is that they raise your dopamine levels. If your dopamine level is too high or too low you become hyper, jittery, lose focus... . People with ADHD have naturally low dopamine levels so the amphetamine or whatever just raise the dopamine to a normal level so that they can focus and not bounce all over the place. I'm people without ADHD, it raises it above normal levels and they become hyper. The only difference really between caffeine and amphetamines is that the amphetamines are much stronger. I've got ADHD too and I can have like 4 cups of coffee and be the same or better than I was before.
One unexpectedly accurate ADHD/ADD 'marker' is that coffe/caffeine either makes no difference, or makes it easier to get to sleep. I was always so confused why people could not sleep after coffe, as I preferred a cup right before bed. Turned out I had ADHD-
PI, and even 10mg of Ritalin barely affects how easy it's to fall asleep. My doctor was a bit surprised by the fact I could oversleep after taking a Ritalin tablet in the morning, only believed it after I got my then wife to vouch for me. My brain is apparently a bit unusual.
Just an anecdote here...I was originally diagnosed with ADHD-C at age 30 but recently was diagnosed with idiopathic hypersomnia (sleep disorder). You would be surprised how many sleep disorder symptoms overlap with ADHD. (Check sleep apnea for instance). I am still unsure now whether I have ADHD or both ADHD and IH lol. If you have sleep habits that seem irregular or seem sleepier than those around you...it is definitely something to look into.
Seriously. When I started taking adderall for my ADHD my chronic insomnia/constant sleepiness/just general shit sleep I'd suffered with for decades just...magically stopped. It was the best thing that ever happened to me, half because I slept a normal amount and felt fucking fantastic, and half because I felt vindicated after years of people telling me my problems were because of my lack of "sleep hygiene."
Going to bed at the same time and waking up at the same time every day. No electronics before bed. That kind of stuff.
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any creative outlets? Do you paint or write or anything like that? My doctor thinks Adderall could help me - I'm like y'all, monster sleep issues, untested but strongly suspected ADD - but I've heard people say that while it helps with calm and sleep and focus, it dulls or inhibits creativity. My daughter, who's on Concerta, says the same. So I've been reluctant to try it.
I'm creative for a living. It's basically all I do. I didn't notice my creativity was dulled, but, to be completely honest, I wasn't on adderall for very long, because I lost my insurance soon after I started taking it.
I most likely have (additional?) sleep related issues. One I've just now figured out after a couple years on Ritalin is that my ideal sleep phase is from 10 in the evening to around 4 in the morning, which isn't always compatible with family life, or a normal social life for that matter.
The window of time in the where I could reliably fall asleep were also very short, before I started my medication through which I also learned to practice a kind of meditation the time window was simply too short. Practicing meditation without Ritalin was almost impossible, but after learning it I can use it to fall asleep unless I'm far too tired/stressed.
Thanks for the advice, mine is to practice a meditation 'light' where the only real goal is to be and feel without thinking too much. It helped me radically cut down on the hours laying in bed unable to sleep, and dreading the effects of it. Being able to just rest without having to sleep first cut down on the stress, and then it helped me start falling asleep much quicker.
I have used meditation to help. My sleep issue is quite the opposite of what you describe though. Even while on stimulants like Concerta or Adderall I am able to fall asleep very quickly (5.3 minutes was my Average during my sleep study). I felt the need to sleep so much that I was sleeping 14-18 hours every day. It wasn't always so severe but recently I got fed up and had the sleep test done. Very glad I did haha.
So ADHD runs super hard in my family but I'm a girl so naturally all of my symptoms were dismissed because girls display it differently. I grew up never being allowed to have dark pop or coffee so by the time I got to high school I was caffeine naive. In like a year, I went from a Coke Zero allowing me to focus, to trying to drink 3-4 monsters a day to be productive. When I finally got to see a psychiatrist she was like "well now you can save money by not buying all those energy drinks!"
My boyfriend is also ADHD. He drinks 9-10 coffees a day. He pours himself a large cup of coffee right before bedtime every night.
I was recently diagnosed with adhd officially and have started taking Adderall and I no longer need so much caffeine to feel normal. My younger brother, who is VERY much like me physically and mentally, also may have it (he exhibits behavior patterns that I share). We both used to drink a can of pop before bed. I would brush my teeth after. It would help him so much that he'd fall asleep with it on his hand. If he didn't do this bed be up til 4am.
Could this be why MDMA hardly has any impact on me at all?
meradorm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:08:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if I have ADHD (I was diagnosed with autism as a kid so I know my brain works a little funny in some way or another) but the one time I took ecstasy I locked myself in my room and spent a few hours doing physics homework. Didn't feel any emotion, didn't want to listen to music or be around people, I felt normal except my head was unusually clear. (I could tell it was working because I was flushed and sweaty, though.) I could concentrate so much better and I wanted to take advantage of it. I was weeks behind on my homework.
I brought it up with a couple of shrinks but it turns out that "I want to use you to get my insurance to pay for a controlled substance that works exactly like the recreational drug I just took" isn't a convincing way to ask to be screened for ADHD.
Yup, could be... Although MDMA also effects serotonin and norepinephrine. So while you may be resistant to the dopamine release, the other two can still overload you. I've got ADHD and MDD so I tend to be extremely resistant to the lows after a roll. Unlike most people, I don't plunge. I just return to my natural low levels.
himit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I'm ADHD too, and when I had ecstasy I got all the happy feelings and the emotional clarity but none of the FUCK YEAH LET'S DANCE that my friends did.
I'm the same way. I can take my 30mg Adderall and go right to bed. Sleep really well too, no mind wandering all over the place. =)
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That explains so much! I have ADHD and I usually get incredibly sleepy 30-45 minutes after drinking caffeinated soda, but I always figured it was a sugar crash.
(ELI5) You normally don't excrete enough dopamine. This makes it hard for your brain to motivate you, and reward you for staying on topic. Adderall makes your Dopamine Reuptake Transporters (DAT) work in reverse, spitting dopamine out of neurons instead of sucking it in. Now it's easier to keep you focused.
(ELI5 for an actual five year old) Your body normally doesn't make enough happiness. This makes it hard for your brain to motivate you, and reward you for staying on topic. Adderall makes your body make more happiness so instead of the happiness being used up in other parts now its in the brain. Now it's easier to keep you focused.
I considered happy drug but that woulda made it worse I think
NSNick ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:17:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water for the happy boats to travel in? When the lake's dry, the happy boats can't travel between neuron islands, but if there's too much water it floods.
Everyone's body makes its own little stickers that it gives your brain when it does a good job. Your body doesn't make enough stickers, so sometimes your brain doesn't pay attention because it knows it won't get a sticker anyway. This medicine makes your sticker factory work faster so your brain will keep doing what it's supposed to!
thought maybe it would help my friend. shes depressed and caffeine doesnt affect her so I thought maybe adderal would do something. the caffeine bothers me more. Caffeine immunity....
Am diagnosed with MDD as well, and I currently take Adderall (been on it for a year or so, and am just turning 19) and I honestly believe it does help with the depression.
There's a good chance you might have ADHD, then. I was depressed for years (still kind of am but not NEARLY as bad) and we couldn't figure out why meds weren't helping. Welbutrin helped. Welbutrin is also used to treat ADHD. Tried Ritalin and now magically I can do things other people can do and no longer feel worthless and stupid! Turns out I have severe ADHD. Treat the cause, not the symptom. Works a lot better.
Mhmm, I've been diagnosed with both and I take the medication strictly for ADHD, but I've come to notice it nullifies the crippling depression (at times), but then again, that's just my own personal input, friend! :)
Klowned ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:59:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, Adderall can help with depression. It causes the happy chemicals to be released and kept in rotation longer.
That's hard to say (also, IANAD of any kind, just did a lot of neuro research and courses in undergrad for... fun?). For what it's worth, many people love the feel regardless of neurotypicality.
I have ADHD and I don't necessarily love the feeling the meds give me. It's more that I like that I am able to focus on starting and completing tasks much easier. I don't really derive pleasure from the feeling of the drug itself. Hell, most the time I don't even notice the effects.
So, my guess is that you love the feeling because that's what amphetamines do; make you feel great and love them. Unless you have ADHD. Then they just make you feel normal.
Sounds like you have add - without the h.
You can have attention deficit without the hyperactivity. ADD is more commonly found in girls with attention issues. These kids tend to fall through the cracks more often, because their lack of focus (inattentive type)is a lot less noticeable.
KinseyH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Confirmed. Daughter started treatment for ADD in 3rd grade (6 years ago) and it changed her life for the better. Wish they'd had it in the 60s and 70s and 80s when my dad was yelling at me to "get my head in the game" and "stop daydreaming" and "pay attention goddammit." (Sweet man, really, but never had an issue with focus and attention and didn't understand it.)
My doctor thinks I should get tested and maybe get treated for it myself. But I already take so many bloody pills, thinking about it just exhausts me.
Z0di ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just meant it's more common for girls to have the inattentive type, not that it's impossible for a boy to. My own son has ADD, with zero hyperactivity.
furriosa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:44:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have ADHD. Laziness = unmotivated to do what other people want you to do. Meds give you concentration to focus on what you want to do.
Z0di ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because there's two different types, ADD and ADHD. ADD is the off-with-the-fairies type, and ADHD is the hyperactive type. Ritalin/Adderrall picks up the ADD types, but calms down the ADHD types. Source: am the ADD type.
Maybe you're just a lazy sack of shit. Sounds like a personal problem.
Z0di ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thanks
Crioca ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
before someone realized they had the opposite effect on naturally hyperactive people.
They don't though, I have ADHD and take amphetamines. The way it works for me (I realize my experience is not universal) is that the high is just enough that I don't get bored when focusing on stuff, so I'm not as fidgety/active.
If I take a stronger dose for recreational purposes, yeah I'll be bouncing around and stuff as well.
Zhang5 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:03:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
before someone realized they had the opposite effect on naturally hyperactive people.
The way it works for me ... is that the high is just enough that I don't get bored when focusing on stuff, so I'm not as fidgety/active.
That's exactly what he's describing. And yes, overdosing starts to make even ADHD people get fidgety - you're just making your body go into overdrive at a certain point. I know I've been there before when adjusting dosages.
Bonus info for all you ADHD kids out there: Be careful about taking your meds with food. Acidic food like OJ with your breakfast will make it's absorption less effective. I used to take mine with a tall glass of OJ before the doctor cleared that up.
Be careful man. When I say fucked up I mean you will feel like the world's stuck at 4x ffwd and your heart's about to bust out your chest and do a tap routine.
Zhang5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:24:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeaaah. Could you maybe edit your other post and recommend people not do that? It's not really a good idea yet there's a post built off of yours encouraging something that sounds really dumb to me.
Eh, at risk of sounding callous, anyone dumb enough to fuck around like that without proper research really deserves what they get. Amphetamines are safe enough that the chances of anyone causing themselves lasting harm are low, so folks of that bent are probably better off learning their lesson now by tweaking themselves into a panic attack rather than potentially doing this kind of stupid experimental horseshit with more dangerous drugs later on. And saying it's a bad time is hardly gonna stop em anyways if they've got it in their head to try.
Also I super hate editing comments so there's that too.
Zhang5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate it! I take it daily already. I just want to experiment and see if what you guys said is true!
Zhang5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd recommend against it dude. If you already take Adderall or some other amphetamine - you're already going to have experienced the best effects. Increasing the effect doesn't really get better. You'll likely feel sick, your muscles will twitch and ache, your heart will race and head will pound, and it is just generally no fun.
I don't wanna do it to get fucked up or anything, I just wanna see if it's true about the acidic and basic things altering the affects. Sometimes I notice I don't have the same affects as I did the day before. I'm wondering if it has to do with what I ate that morning! It's just a lil science experiment for me. Thank you for the advice though! I'll keep it in mind :)
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mhm, makes sense! Just play it safe; you'll see myself and others in the thread have described some of the more unpleasant effects of a too-heavy dosage.
And hey maybe try going the other direction with acidic food first? You can do it on a day you're not in class or need to be attentive.
I think I'll try that! I know how too heavy of a dose is, before I got my script and started taking it as prescribed I would take adderall out the wazoo. I remember one day I took some because I thought work would be too draining. Then I took another on my break. Then another. I had taken WAYY more than my body was used to, and I was up for almost 48 hours, the side effects werent too bad though. Thank you for your input though :)
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've definitely got more experience than I. Keep being you! Stay safe out there. :3
Zhang5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if 5 hour energy is acidic or basic but the one time I took my morning dose with one of those bad-boys due to pulling an all-nighter... hoo not fun not fun. Felt like my heart was gonna explode, trembling limbs, vision blurry. Had to go walk it off. 0/10 would not recommend playing with amphetamines, kids.
Learned that the hard way before I switched meds. Had a lovely Christmas eve twitching in bed all day unable to stop trying to use all my muscles simultaneously. Not fun.
Tea spoon of baking soda in 8 oz of warm water, mix well, drink, wait 5-10 mins and then take a pill. Warning: you'll fucking tweak your brains out and the crash is horrid. But you'll get fucked up alright
Yes. As I understand it, when they set the dosage for orally ingested medications they're usually accounting for a certain portion of active ingredient being lost to digestive processes. So if you fuck with the digestive process (in this case by altering the pH of your stomach) you'll end up absorbing way more drug into your blood than was meant to be possible. A 10 mg pill could end up having the relative effects of a tablet many times that dosage. The downside is it'll likely be a harsh, unstable, unpredictable effect that'll wear off with a crash like a brick wall.
Yup! Most people only have like 50ml of acid in there. Neutralization reaction between HCl and NaHCO3 means every acid molecule destroyed produces H2O and CO2 (plus NaCl) which further dilutes concentration of any HCl left over.
dbbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It actually has more to do with the pH of urine and the body's ability to excrete it than how much is absorbed by the GI tract.
AlphaAnt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you take Vyvanse; stomach acidity doesn't matter because it's absorbed in the intestines.
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe my stomach doesn't fully adjust the PH until the intestines, then? Because the reason we noticed the OJ thing in the first place - we were in the office to up my dosage once again because it wasn't proving to be very effective. After noticing the OJ problem and switching to a different drink (usually water, sometimes milk with a breakfast) we didn't need to keep upping my dosage. Could be placebo but that's what my experience was.
AlphaAnt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With Vyvanse or just Adderall? If it's Vyvanse, that's really odd. Typically the pH of the stomach is ~3, and the pH of the small intestine is ~7.8.
Vyvanse is dextroamphetamine that has been bonded with an L-lysine molecule. The acidity of the stomach can't affect or absorb the compound molecule due to the lysine, so the molecule is able to pass unabated to the small intestine. The enzymes in the intestines can shear off the lysine portion of the molecule, leaving just the dextroamphetamine, which is now easily absorbed by the intestinal lining.
TL;DR Orange juice should have no effect on lisdexamfetamine (aka Vyvanse), but it has a significant effect on amphetamine salts (aka Adderall).
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, well there's the confusion! I use Adderall and your original "Unless you take Vyvanse" comment made me think you were trying to say things the opposite way around. We're actually in agreement - Adderall is affected by stomach PH. :3
The non-fidgety high is more-or-less the normal for non-ADHD people, you probably only perceive it as a high because your normal is really a 'low'.
ADHD sufferers are actually measurably less positive about just about anything in life than the average person, essentially we're anti-high/'low' without our medication!
jonnyp11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To your experience not being normal, I'll add mine. I skipped a few days once, and had a test that day, so I doubled up my 30mg XR (which wasn't doing too much after years of that dosage). I felt like my mind couldn't wander even if I wanted to, and I felt kinda slow. It wasn't exactly a fun time, not to say it was bad either, it just happened.
Also, I've been off since April or May, and after the first week I felt like I didn't really need it any more. I'd like to not need it, but I'm going back to school on Wednesday (took a semester off), so I'll find out when I'm stuck listening to boring shit.
They don't have opposite effects it's just that the dose for a person with ADD (which is really just a category of symptoms not an actual specific disease) has to be higher to put them into that state. This is because whatever the real underlying cause of their ADD is, DRD2, DRD4 receptors, long chain VS short chain dopamine, VAL/VAL vs VAL/MET vs MET/MET genes that clear dopamine in the brain all cause a person to react to amphetamine less.
Think of it as a bell curve. Normal people can take very very small doses of amphetamines for increased focus just like people with ADD it's just that no one does that, they pop a pill meant for someone else's physiology.
Some anti-seizure/convulsant medications can cause seizures, "ticks", and drowsiness in unmedicated people. Like, hey, don't take them for some kind of high - you very well could die
dogen83 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't at normal doses. Stimulant medications help people focus whether they have ADHD or not, which is why medical students and law students abuse it while studying. They can study for hours on end. In large quantities, though, you'd be jacked.
himit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:47:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband occasionally takes one of my Ritalin (he works a night job) and when he does he says it feels like his mind is flying. It's fucking awesome, he's so smart, his body's really tired but his brain feels incredible, yada yada.
I take one and just feel like the white noise has stopped. I wish they made me feel awesome!
I was going to say, it might make you more energetic, but it definitely doesn't hurt your concentration. I feel so smart on Adderall, it's probably just false confidence but that alone makes you perform better.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I know a lot of doctors who use the hell out of Stavigile
dogen83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that depends on what you mean by easy. I'm a prescriber, but the majority of my patients are on Medicaid, and I've never been able to convince the state to cover the cost of modafinil. My peers in private practice may hand it out like breath mints, I don't know. :)
I have pretty severe ADHD, both inattentive and hyperactive, and I once had someone try to explain to me that it's "cheating" that people with ADHD can legally use these drugs while they're studying.
I asked him "didn't you ever wonder why they give stimulants to people who are hyperactive?"
"Oh yeah, that is kind of weird. Why would you want to make a hyper person more hyper?"
"IT'S ALMOST AS IF DRUGS ARE PRESCRIBED FOR REASONS MORE COMPLICATED THAN STIMULANTS = CHEATING."
That's exactly it. When I was in high school it was cool to take pills. So my friend and I bought a few and after a few hours of feeling nothing I went to bed. I woke up at 4 am to my friend who'd turned into fucking Picasso. Painted all over her bedroom walls. I was diagnosed with ADD, she was normal. She was brilliant without it, and a wonderful artist. But she had drawn fucking mandalas on all four of her walls with very intricate details. She passed away and we have those drawings as memories โค
They don't really work in the opposite way. It's just that both Amphetamine and Caffeine improves your concentration, which can make someone with ADHD calm down and actually be able to focus on things better.
So is this why I pass out whenever I have caffeine? I never have coffee, but at some LAN parties I would have one and pass out. Unfortunately my ADHD meds don't do anything. No side effects, no benefits, no differences. After taking Addy the first few times I felt potentially more tired, but after max Addy and max Concerta doses my doc wants to switch me to Strattera because of a "high tolerance".
Yeah, I used to work fkr a LAN and the only energy drink that gave me any sort kf energy was bawls . And jt was still about the same as just going and getting some food.
I was diagnosed with ADHD last year, which came as a big surprise, and once I learned what inattentive ADHD looks like I realized that my dad acts pretty much exactly the same way.
Anyway, my doctor was asking me about caffeine, which I do drink a lot of (I'm drinking some right now, at 11:22 at night). Interestingly, my dad also drinks a whole lot of caffeine while the rest of my family does not because it makes them jittery. My doctor said that my dad and I have probably been unknowingly self-medicating with caffeine.
I wasn't diagnosed with inattentive ADD until I was 27. Then it clicked. I used to joke with coworkers that caffeine had basically no effect on me. I used to drink a medium Starbucks coffee with three shots of espresso to try to wake up ... I wouldn't feel a thing.
That made a whole lot more sense after the diagnosis.
I exclusively drink caffeinated drinks ( mostly soda) And it does literally nothing for me as far as energy. Hell I coukd have 3 cans while laying in bed and go to bed.
People with ADHD produce less dopamine than non-affected people. The reason that we most of us are highly active is because activity produces dopamine. Amphetamines act like dopamine, giving our brains the reward it needs which makes us calm down.
Can confirm. Am prescribed Adderall for something other than ADHD and it makes me so incredibly twitchy and talkative, which is absolutely notttt enjoyable for someone who is an introvert. My body compulsively does the exact opposite of what my brain enjoys.
I have ADHD and when i was younger I put $15 into a pool to buy adderall and do group drugs and while everyone was having a great time I was just like wtf this sucks I don't know why you guys are freaking out.
I then realized after confessing to my mother that my ADHD pills contain adderall.
I have ADHD. When I was a freshman a friend brought up snorting adderal. So I gave it a go telling him I don't think it will do anything.
He got all hyper I went and chilled out I think playing video games
adale_50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always found this strange as well. The following is very basic but you get the picture. Since Adderall is basically the "best" speed man has ever created.
Yeah, friends and I had a couple packs when we were younger. We were wide awake, talking intent shit on one specific subject for hours, going on long walks without shoes...One friend who had a hugely obvious undiagnosed case of ADHD, always ranting and demanding attention and needing to go out and do something, can't sit through a film... read a book and got an early night.
Yeah seriously. I started taking it, and suddenly classes were bearable. It was the same old droll, but I was at least able to take notes without texting 4 friends, playing a game on my phone, getting up to go pee just so I can get up and move, draw all over my notes, and then leave class having no idea what mitosis is.
I'm interning with therapists in mental health and this has come up - kid is improperly diagnosed with ADHD, given medication which causes more problems than they were originally brought in with, no one knows what to do, and the kid never gets a firm diagnosis or proper treatment. I'm simplifying, but it's definitely something that happens and really sucks for everyone involved.
Well, for sure. For people with ADHD or other hyperactive disorders it has a calming effect. Similarly curious is how taking too many benzos can make people irrationally angry and alert. Pharmacology is weird and I'm not expert, just a fascinated casual observer.
It's hilarious. This is how I learned I have ADD. Finally was at my wits end, buy some fucking adderal to make it through midterms. Take the adderal. Proceed to have a totally normal day. Study for an hour, play some games, do some errands, study some more, play another round of games, study some more...
Most productive day ever, but no issues with over-concentration or jumpiness. At the end of it I'm like aren't I supposed to get hyper focused or jittery or... ohhhh. Oh. Shit.
daitoshi ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:25:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed the world was a bit quieter when I had caffeine in my system - it was like the six TVs constantly fizzing channels in the background just had the volume turned down from 50 to 10. The world seemed sharper, like cleaning your glasses for the first time in a while, and realizing with hindsight that they had been filthy. The overwhelming chatter of "everything" had just... faded.
I didn't realize "normal people" took caffeine to be awake and energetic - by the end of college I was chugging about a pot a day, relishing in the quiet existence of being alone with a steady train of thoughts.
And then I started getting heartburn from too much coffee and then horrible headaches and nausea from suddenly cutting caffeine cold turkey when I stopped drinking coffee. (I didn't switch to energy drinks because a kid in high school was pulled from classes for a month after drinking so many energy shots he started getting stomach ulcers and heart problems. Yikes.)
After the billionth time realizing my constantly racing, jittery, "every sensation in existence is equally important and time does not exist" was not normal, I went to the doctor.
Wheee~ isn't ADHD fun? /s
madsci ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:26:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Years ago someone gave me some bunk Ecstasy. Turned out to be a mix of other stimulants. Apparently lots of people are OK going out and dancing on that crap. I spent four hours reading about electromagnetism, Lorentz invariance, and Minkowski space. And puking.
Spot fucking on about the "time does not exist" part. When I started adderall, being late meant something for the first time.
daitoshi ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm losing less time now :)
I haven't stopped losing time, but it's down to "whoops there goes 3 minutes when I was distracted" instead of "holy shit I'm an hour late to work because the fish tank was beautiful this morning"
ForePony ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have set a lot of alarms on my phone to keep reminding me to do shit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Protip on the caffeine: If you have trouble sleeping, drink a diet soda before bed. The caffeine will calm your mind, without the sugar to give you the rush.
daitoshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really have trouble sleeping, but thanks for the advice!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:49:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Different chemical, but I discovered my ADHD similarly. I've always had insomnia (I'll literally lay in bed for 4+ hours). I drank alcohol for a while (what's a HS kid gonna do, when your parents won't take you to a doctor), until it was becoming an addiction, and I tried medical marijuana which thankfully isn't addictive to me.
When I first got my card, my wife and I both smoked. She giggled, got munchies, and generally acted like a stereotypical stoner. Well, I took my hits only to realize I need to get some homework. Fast forward a few hours and I turn the assignment in. Then it hits me, I literally just sat in one spot focusing on work.
I couldn't find a single person who's had this reaction, until one google result brought up a forum about an ADHD guy who responded the same way. Started doing research on ADHD and discovered strong traits (definitely confirmed by my wife), as well as it being 80% inheritable (my father is ADHD)
|Pharmacology is weird and I'm not expert, just a fascinated casual observer.
You are the Dan Carlin of Pharmacology.
scorinth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm at the point now where I'm not sure if I'm a bigger fan of Dan or George, and now I've started getting them confused. Took me a good minute to figure out which one you were talking about.
I just wish he would put out more Hardcore History.
It is also a bit dependent on the dose level, not just the diagnosis. At small doses, amphetamines do have a calming effect in most people, but if you're pumped up to a level you aren't tolerant to, almost anybody is going to be tweeking balls on adderall
ForePony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, I always bounce my legs and have to be moving in my seat. Should I be medicated?
scorinth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are other reasons you could be super-bouncy and moving around. If you don't want to go get tested by a psychiatrist just yet, you could take one of those online ADHD screening tests or just start paying attention to whether stimulants make you more energized or calmer.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:56:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's some early evidence suggesting a real, quick test for ADHD right now. Essentially, it has to do with mirrored psychomotor movements. If you fidget by tapping your fingers on your right hand, it's likely your left hand will very slightly mirror/twitch those same actions. With ADHD, the person will exhibit this mirroring far more than anyone else.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I do this normally.
I hope my professors didn't think I was on addy.
mousieee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:34:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I highly doubt that is the case more than maybe half of the time. I have a pretty severe anxiety disorder. I can't even drink half a cup of decaf coffee without having a panic attack. I have to bounce my legs, fidget, etc. through almost every lecture to keep my anxiety at bay enough to pay attention to what the professor is talking about. I feel like I look like I've taken a bunch of Adderall, but really I just have a fucked up brain that doesn't let me relax. I have several friends who have similar problems, as well...
Some of us just can't concentrate when we're sitting still. It takes more effort for me to make sure my arms and legs aren't tapping than it does to listen to a boring lecture.
Yes, great, thank you, now I'm worried that all my teachers thought I was on Adderall just because I was fidgety. I really needed another thing to be anxious about.
Ya know I can tell which of the doctors in our office took adderall in med school. It's the one that read a very early study that a diabetes medication could improve memory, then asked the pharmacist if she had any, and took the entire supply to use himself as a guinea pig.
Adderall isn't prescribed in my country, only ritalin, but one of my friend's boyfriends isn't from my country and was prescribed Adderall so he gives out that stuff to the people in our school like crazy. Others just buy ritalin from someone to study. I don't do either because my doctor prohibited it for me (I suffer from BAD anxiety)
Its always amazed me how other students who don't need adderall think it makes then focus better. It makes me stop fidgeting and focus because I have ADHD, but I know a few of my friends who react to it like cocaine
Idk, I'm not ADHD and when the two times I took Adderall I was really mellow. Like I didn't even want to move my hand to turn the page of the book I was reading. It is weird, its like you feel really relaxed and the world around you kind of slows down. But fidgeting was something I would not being doing while taking Adderall.
This is me on my (prescribed) meds though. I have inattentive not hyperactive type attention deficit. I worry bosses and professors will assume I'm abusing drugs because I popped a pill earlier and now I'm sweaty and loud
I fidget a lot naturally (I'm not hyperactive, just fidgety). I never thought about it before but now I wonder if people think I've been abusing Adderall!
Tmckye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tap my foot constantly, In any situation where the chairs are connected in a row people comment on it when I do it without thinking. I wonder how many people thing I'm high all the time.
ionlypwn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had teachers ask me if I'm on something and they say they wonder because I will literally bounce one of my legs for hour or 2 during a class. I just don't feel comfortable sitting still ever. I've done it since like 1st grade to and I just don't know, sometimes it gets really bad lol
Oh god, most of my professors probably think I'm on adderall, but I just have anxiety and constantly have to bounce my legs up and down to focus in class. One more thing to be anxious about!
raethen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has been using Ritalin for 27 years I can agree that if the meds are making you fidgety then you don't need them.
Taking that stuff is what stops the fidgets and wandering mind. The people I've met that take it when they shouldn't remind me of what I'm like without the meds.
Anecdotal I know, but I do have a ton of personal experience.
Ha! Reminds me a story one of my ER nurse relatives told me. Dude comes in on the ambulance overdosed on roofies & cocaine, to be clear he roofied himself intentionally then did a bunch of coke. Almost died multiple times while they are pulling out all the stops working their asses off to save his life. When he finally pulled through & was conscious again they gravely explained where he was & what had happened. His response? "Huh, guess I won't try that drug combination again."
I heard the startalk podcast recently with Bill nye and Chuck nice. they were taking about drugs and bill says "I'm not a huge fan of pot, I don't even like the smell of it" and chuck says "I'm not really a fan of the smell of pot either, but I LOVE the smell of cocaine" lol. I was dying laughing. seemed relevant.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to say I have a history of insomnia. I had a really bad reaction to Ambien, so that's a big no for me. One week with no warning, I just couldn't sleep. I didn't sleep for five days. On the third day I went to the doctors office in the hopes of anything else. My heart rate was pretty elevated and I was kind of emotional. I was kind of afraid he thought I was a tweaker. But after a certain length of time without sleep it almost feels like you're on drugs.
misyo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a reversal of fucked up adult/doctor stories, I once had a series of recurring sinus infections over a year long period. I had just gotten over a phase of Yay, and I decided to come clean, (so to speak) and tell my doctor why I felt I may have had this problem.
He was sympathetic and explained that coke can have a cauterizing effect, etc etc then asked, "How much?"
I replied, "Oh, I used to do maybe like, a G a month?"
To which he replied, "No, how much does it cost?" and winked at me.
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. I was a patient (yay chronic illness!) in an ER one time when this cracked out woman spent hours calling everyone she knew to complain LOUDLY of how security had taken her crack pipe. She would yell on and on about how she wanted it back and how she was going to sue. I've always wondered what it was the brought her in to begin with (and why she didn't think of said crack pipe before walking through the metal detector but what do I know) since smoking more crack sure seemed to be her only care in the world.
dpfw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
super_ag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I so want to tell these people, "You can love cocaine all you want. Just don't come to the hospital and waste our time when you have chest pain from all the coke you love to do."
Reminds me of a patient I once took care of. He was a heart transplant recipient who wouldn't stop doing cocaine. I told him he kept getting sicker because of all the cocaine he was using, he said 'but cocaine makes me feel great!'
Jacquezs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jpsi314 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:52:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is this not the top comment?
Crobeam ยท 829 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was working in GP and had a patient scheduled for an appointment. Looked through his notes to gain an idea of why he may be seeing me and saw he'd been seen a few times with knee pains/shoulder pains and the like. The guy is in his 70s so probably just arthritis. I'm thinking I'll do an examination of his sore joints and ask a few questions, prescribe some painkillers and it'll be a quick one.
Call him in and he walks in sits down and is cheery as anything.
"What seems to be the problem then, sir? I notice you've had some issues recently with sore joints" I ask.
He then proceeds to tell me about this sore knee. So I check his knee and take a history and it all seems fine. Ask anything else and he's like oh actually my neck is sore too. So I check his neck and nothing untoward to be found there either. At this point he's like ok well thanks doc I'll be off then.
I say to him oh good glad we could help. And you have no other pains at all before you go? He then sits back down and tells me he's been having central, crushing chest pain radiating down his left arm and into his jaw since last night and has been feeling breathless and when it happened he had an impending sense of doom.
I know a lot of you won't be doctors here but I'm sure you all recognise signs of an MI there. He had all the classic textbooks symptoms.
Called an ambulance and he was rushed to hospital for PCI. (Edit: Percutaneous coronary intervention - thread a catheter up the arteries into the coronary artery to find and then treat the blockage - sorry for the medical acronym haha)
Tl;Dr - man came in complaining of arthritis and when he was about to leave decided to tell me he'd had a heart attack the night before and thought nothing of it
This reminds me of my grandpa. He has had three heart attacks. The last one he had was about 7:30 on a Monday evening. He was in so much pain he couldn't get out of his chair all night. He waited until the next morning to drive himself to a doctor and tell them what was up.
We were absolutely furious! When asked if it felt like his previous heart attacks he smiled and said "yup, about the same."
nolo_me ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a lot of you won't be doctors here but I'm sure you all recognise signs of an MI there. He had all the classic textbooks symptoms.
Called an ambulance and he was rushed to hospital for PCI.
Not a doctor. I recognise MI but PCI has me stumped. Doesn't help that it's an acronym in my field too.
You can't aka a medical term with another medical term....
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:02:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sorator ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:35:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they're trying to say that if folks don't know the first term, they probably also won't know the second, so that's not a very helpful explanation.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dad's a doctor and I knew MI but not PCI. Coronary angioplasty meant more to me than... whatever the hell PCI stands for. Can't even remember because it doesn't mean much to me. Thanks :)
296milk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:42:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think his point is that I don't know what either of those words mean.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intervention just means any intervention, can be angio or stent, etc.
Looked through his notes to gain an idea of why he may be seeing me and saw he'd been seen a few times with knee pains/shoulder pains and the like.
Sounds like they guy complained about arthritis in the past so the doctor assumed that's why he was there that day.
Crobeam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I cut the story down a bit for reddit sake. Basically I looked at his last 5 visits to the doctor's or so and it was all arthritis type stuff. So when he came to me and I said what seems to be the problem? I notice you've been having issues with your joints lately. I also asked him was that why he was here or was he here for another reason to which he responded something along the lines of well I've got these pains doc. Thus I asked him where he has his pains and he proceeds to tell me about his knee and his neck etc before even mentioning his chest pains.
Sorry for the ambiguity :)
Treczoks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom was the same. She was on her way back home from the doctor (she just had had her annual checkup), and got a small infarct half way home. She fell, got back up, and went home instead back to the doctor.
When I came home in the evening, she was in bed and not feeling well. I called the doctor (not the ambulance, she said she did not feel that unwell), and when he arrived and looked after her, he immediately told me to call an ambulance...
Crobeam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hope your mom is ok now! And yeh its mental how many people will experience symptoms and just pass it off as something else. I think one person who replied to this hit the nail on the head and that its denial. I think many people recognise the symptoms of a heart attack but are too scared to do anything about it because everyone knows a heart attack is serious business.
My grandfather is still alive but he's diabetic and was recently having a work up at hospital and they noticed he had evidence of a previous heart attack based of his ecg findings. He'd probably had a "silent MI" though they theorised as he'd not had any symptoms and he's diabetic which can mess with your nerves and thus he wouldn't have felt it happen. Can't believe that man is still alive tbh
I like how you start the sentence with "I know a lot of you won't be doctors here.." and then proceed to use a doctors term. For those of us not in the know. Please explain what MI means.
Crobeam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry that's my bad - MI = Myocardial infarction so basically a heart attack.
Thanks for explaining what Myocardial infarction is, I would have lost my shit if your response was literally just telling me what MI stood for and no follow up.
Crobeam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. No I'm sorry. Its one of the things we all have to work on and usually when I'm with a patient I'm really good at cutting out jargon/medical lingo as it can confuse but when I'm at my PC its much harder to remember to do so. Sorry anyway :)
hang on, those symptoms (aside from the pain from left arm to jaw) are exactly what i get when i smoke a ton of dope. And dope being somewhat decent at covering up pain, just leaves crushing chest but not painful, have i had multiple heartattacks?
No, this is not from a cardiac event, I have had the same feeling before (I quit and then over did it as I was used to how much I used to be able to smoke) It is basically the result of a panic attack.
Smoking weed, not tobacco. The fact I'm still smoking it means there will be minor issues with lungs while i smoke, because regardless of what it is, it's still inhaling smoke, and for a short time after, but there's no tar or anything to cause long lasting issues.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:26:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, that just undoes most of my 'knowledge' about tabacco and marijuana, i thought they just added the tar and other shit, rather than the plants containing piles of it themselves, which does sound a tad counter-intuitive, but so many things are.
edit: More research shows that marijuana does in fact have considerably more tar than cigarettes, but it does less damage due to how people smoke cigarettes vs how people smoke marijuana (typically). Because people smoke a ton of cigarettes a day, or at least the people i know, and in the articles i found, there is more tar put into your lungs with typical use of cigarettes, but if you smoke marijuana and cigarettes the same way, the marijuana will be worse in the short term with the tar. Apparently however marijuana somehow avoids having a known link to lung cancer despite having a pile of carcinogens. Maybe the rumours of it slowing down cancer are true, and work to counteract the carcinogens, or something else is at work. I'm not a scientist, I don't know.
Apparently however marijuana somehow avoids having a known link to lung cancer despite having a pile of carcinogens
I think this is due to the fact that a lot of marijuana smokers also smoke tobacco. Marijuana smokers are getting cancer but it's hard to prove that it contributed to the cancer. Also people might be lying about marijuana use and say they smoke tobacco instead
Fenrils ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youre exactly right about the lying but a huge reason for our lack knowledge on marijuana comes from our lack of clinical research into it, mostly due to it being illegal in most areas resulting in it being borderline impossible to have good studies with large sample sizes. Once the legal restrictions inevitably lessen, I'm sure we'll start seeing just as many studies on it as we've had for alcohol and tobacco, for better or worse.
well, I'll wait and see if i get lung cancer, i've had 1 cigarette ever, and it isn't happening again because jesus fucking christ they taste awful
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Marijuana doesn't paralyze the cilia though like tobacco does. So comparing them isn't as simple as looking at the amount of tar, since your lungs start immediately cleaning marijuana tar if you don't also smoke cigarettes.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How slumped over are you when you smoke? Your posture affects how well your chest works. If you spend 5 hours almost stationary hunched like a hunchback, you are going to have all kinds of pains. We call these "relax accidents", you forget that moving is something our bodies like to do like shift positions a lot and hold our backs firmly upright. Sitting down can decrease your time on this plane by considerable amounts.
Also, your heartbeat will increase and your blood pressure will rise. Neither is good if we don't do some aerobic work; if you jig and get your heartrate up by 2x, it is exercises and will strengthen your heart. If you do it sitting down, you are basically revving your engine when stationary: the whole system is still on idle mode, nothing is moving fast enough, your heart will not get enough oxygen and nutrition since your body is not pumping oxygen and glucose thru your body and taking care of waste products at faster rate.. You can think of this as borrowed time that will decrease few weeks to years from the end part of your life and possibly make the whole journey much less enjoyable.
If you do some cardio everyday, you can toke for longer. All that exercise will improve ALL pathways, including nerves and all that sweet endocrine stuff, like all the fluids needed to give you good mix of stuff that actually makes you high... most drugs just increase production of one compound in our bodies so having good health actually for realsies means better and more enhanced highs and not just increased tolerance.. Exercising while toking heavily is not that good idea either, you need to attack it with carrot and stick; first you jog, the you toke.. 15 minutes a day will start it, 30 minutes is where we start to get actual benefits but ANY mild cardio works. Walk to the grocery store instead of taking a car is what you need to do, daily. Then toke. If you toke, you will not want to walk...
And yeah, what others said, weed has tar in it, about the same or more than cigarettes. There is very little difference between the two smokes and their ill effects. What makes it differ is that nicotine is nerve poison at high enough concentration where as THC is definitely not a poison. If you want to toke safe, use good vaporizers or edibles (bad vaporizers are almost or even worse than smoking, allowing often way too high temperatures and allow burning of material in quite low heat meaning incomplete combustion and very nasty stuff.. if we burn, we burn very hot and very fast, not slow and barely smoldering.. or we don't burn at all).
I do pretty much no cardio at all, because i typically cant really do much with ingrowns on both toes, although only 1 side is particularly bad. (seems like a pretty lame excuse, but unless youve had really bad ones, you dont understand the pain)
Also my posture slowly but surely gets worse the more i smoke. I normally use a pipe, so first pipe still sitting up fairly straight, second one, little bit slumped over, somewhere between the 3rd and 5th (depending on how much i pack it) is when i decide to go lie down because i dont feel confident not falling out of me seat.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of us have some issues, i'm sorry about yours and i'm not gonna start advising what you should do about it.. You figure it out :) I have some experience with this issue as well, toking and having adverse health effects from just relaxing wrong..
Mine is actually bad back, upper back is hereditary, lower back i broke doing too much work in my teens... I'm long time toker too, can say that the first 15 years it was a problem (either not getting any or being addicted to it, letting it run my life), last 5 it's been more under control. I'm not kidding myself as i'm totally addicted to the lifestyle, to the whole thing, inspiration it gives me but i am anyway going to be addicted for the test of my life to something, at least i could make a choice what my poisons it is going to be (coffee and THC). My dad's voice has been stronger in my head: "suck it up son, it takes same amount of energy to hold yourself straight".. of course, it doesn't but there is a kernel of truth, something is holding you up and that something is your internal organs and fluid pressure.. Your skin is keeping you up like a water balloon and that is not a good thing..
Try to figure out a good relaxation posture, get yourself a good comfy armchair or something, move around, change seats... It helps with a whole lot of other problems coming from "relaxation accidents": from you bowel movement to your breathing to your blood pressure to your alertness (the good kind, not the paranoid kind, it just means you are a little bit brighter, like faster at solving puzzles for ex). This is not a fact but i believe it has something to do with all those fluids in your body, the whole system is based on two things: either we walk or we lie down and we do a LOT more of walking that sleeping.. That is what it is designed to be, remember, human are the absolutely champions on Earth among all lifeforms on endurance. Theoretically, there is not a land based animal we can't outrun. So that is how our bodies have evolved, to be upright and all those internal organs, veins, cavities, everything jostling around as our bodies move. Sit for hours and stuff just piles up and concentrations raise and if there is something i've learned about humans is that concentration is super important (look at osmosis..)..
The chair im typically sitting in when smoking (before lying down) is probably the best solid chair you could get for $50, so it's decent, but i go lie down fairly quickly, because i cant play any of my games as i dont like to play them outside of ranked, and even when absolutely munted i know that playing a game in a competitive gamemode is just asking to lose my rank XD
Also when you say there isn't a land animal we cant outrun, thats only if we are the hunters, we can hunt something for days straight if we need to, but if we are running then we are totally screwed XD
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That last part is exactly where we excel, we can keep running the longest of any alnd animal. It is thought that it was one of the primary methods of hunting before we got clever about it; human can run any animal to exhaustino by keeping the sort of speed a marathon runner does.. When it comes to pure speed, we are quite rubbish but when it comes to one continuous distance, we are almost without comparison.. Most animal can run mile, two miles at that pace in any weather before they have to stop, just for few seconds, half a minute.. They do not have such cooling mechanism as we do and the efficiency of long distance runner far exceeds petty much anything at that speed.
One example that seems counterintuitive: Horses can run very far, at their own pace. The kind of galloping long distance running is just impossible, their brains literally cook from the inside out if we don't allow them to cool off every now and then. If we can keep them above this limit, we can outrun anything..
Look it up, not my invention and really, i thought that we actually don't excel in anything physical when it comes to animal kingdom but this is the second area where we can actually triumph (if intelligence is accounted as physical, it definitely makes things efficient when you can plan in better detail..). So when you think about, a hunting party running as a team on a flat ground.. There is very few animals who can escape that situation. Also, we can climb well so trees are not guaranteed safety either. Not even wolves have that kind of versatility, they do have the teamwork honed down and can outrun pretty much anything as a team but lack in other areas, where we just do not... Why humans as a species survived in the first place starts to make whole lot of sense; scare any animal and you can let it kill itself by just running behind it and clubbing it in the head when it is already cooking...
Crobeam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think someone else has already replied but if you're only getting that when you smoke weed, the chances are you're having a panic attack which tends to mimic symptoms of a heart attack unfortunately. This central crushing chest pain and sense of doom. As with anything though I would say if you feel worried about any symptoms you have, go get checked out - advice on the internet isn't worth a thing when it comes to medicine (even if its coming from a medical professional) I'd always recommend you seek your doctor if you think necessary. Also, maybe cut back on how much weed you're smoking if its causing you these symptoms! :D
I'm not worried, and i actively smoke enough to try and get that because for whatever strange reason, i enjoy it. Possibly because the crushing feeling isnt pain, just... crushing. But it is good to know i probably wont accidentally die. Also with weed illegal here, not really wanting to see a doctor and ask, i -shouldnt- get in trouble for it, but id rather not take the risk.
dejacoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That happens quite a lot in mental health. People come in and feel too vulnerable/frightened/untrusting to say the real problem right up front. It's like they know they need help, but then get there and can't quite say the feared problem aloud.
Fuck Saturday i managed to shoulder check a door frame and woke up Sunday wuth a sore shoulder and thought i was haveing a heart attack.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sense of impending doom is one of my biggest fears, the more i have read about it (not much, i'm not obsessed), it seems that "sense of impending doom" means you are about to drop dead. To top that, i have my self-named "nocebo" syndrome, being a sound engineer the time we spend on fighting placebo takes it's toll and you start doubting and second guessing everything your body tries to tell you.. And of course, when one has this kind of mentality for a long time, then comes "is this real or placebo or is it real but i'm counting it as placebo?" :)
Thankfully i'm healthy apart from mild arrhythmia that is hereditary from both sides of family; either i die at 60 or live to 100, seems to be the choices but only my grandad from mother's side had condition needing medication and had one heartattack, did not die from that, and was the only one to suffer from alzheimers and dementia.. all other have died after long life, 80 to 100 with nothing that says it has been specially healthy lifestyle, good habits but nothing special. But that arrhythmia is a bitch, doesn't happen on exercise but in rest, which is when you notice it, when you start looking for "sense of impeding doom".. well, our brains are not rational :) But it is remarkable how many times you start finding that sentence on "he was healthy and dead 15 minutes later" :)
We had a patient come into the office I used to work at complaining that her chest was cold. She was a frequent flyer so we kinda laughed it off but gave her an EKG to soothe her fears.
The doctor straight sprinted to the phones when he read it. She was in the middle of a STEMI. No symptoms other than a cold chest. She was conscious, conversing normally, and cheerful.
Both my parents are doctors. My dad told me about an extremely religious male patient who was concerned about his nocturnal emissions. He saw it as a offense to God and wanted to know what he could do to stop it. My dad's response: "Well, It's gotta go somewhere guy"
How common are these supposed to be? I can't say I've ever had one. I've woken up while on the verge of coming but that's the closest I can verify. Have I just been taking care of it in the daytime consistent enough to not deal with this?
I personally get them alot but its probably because i never masturbate (not for religious reasons just never got into it) and havent been sexually active for the majority of my life.
For neither in sleep also doth it take place through sin. [...] Or, if any think this also to be sin, thinking that it comes not to pass save from some lust of this kind, which without doubt is false; what? are the ordinary menses also of women sins?
Basically he's saying that it's not happening in sin when you're asleep. If any people think it is a sin because they think it happens due to sinful lust (which is not true), do they also think that women's periods are a sin?
Klowned ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 08:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, as it happens, origins of Abrahamic religions DO mark menstruation as a penalty for sins commited by Eve in the garden of Eden.
I like to think of it more like this. Birth in humans is generally more painful than with other mammals because 1) our heads are incredibly large from birth compared to the size of the pelvis and 2) our hips rotated differently from most other animals to help us walk upright further complication birth that uses basically the same structures.
I like to think of it more as Eve crying out in pain giving birth and god saying, "uhhh, I meant to do that..."
If you read the whole passage in the source link, he talks about that as well. He argues that ritual impurity under Jewish law is not the same thing as sin, since you can become "unclean" by doing things that God definitely likes (e.g. sex within marriage for the purposes of procreation).
The offering is not for normal menstrual flows, but for abnormally long bleeding ("if it run beyond the time of her separation") or bleeding out of sync with her menstrual cycle ("many days out of the time of her separation"), i.e. bleeding associated with disease.
EDIT: Also, some translations have it as "purification offering" rather than "sin offering", but my scholarship doesn't run deep enough to tell you who's right on that point.
ON3i11 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 08:07:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even for a native English speaker that quote is very hard to understand because it uses very old forms of grammar that can be confusing for any one who isn't used to reading very old English.
I usually don't have that much trouble understanding Shakespearian English though. Sure, it sounds funny compared to contemporary English, but the way he goes about expressing things is still relatively modern. It's the texts that are translated from ancient languages like Latin and Greek that get me.
vonlowe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shakespearean English is about as far back as modern speakers can understand
It's really old syntax. It's kind of hard for a native English speaker to understand what he's saying is this:
"It's not a sin for nocturnal emissions to happen. If anyone thinks that it's a sin because of sinful lust then they're wrong. What? Do we also consider women's periods to be sins?"
ngwoo ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 06:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pollution from factories at night. It's especially bad because the sunlight isn't there to push the carbon dioxide back down so more of it enters the atmosphere.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I somehow feel sorry for him. I've read about a lady the other day who does sex ed for immigrants in Ireland. Before the class, they have the chance to anonymously hand in questions they have via a letterbox and I feel that this might be a good thing for a priest to do as well with very religious parishes. It's all good and well to know the medical background (which could be explained by the local doctor) but sexual issues might also benefit from getting a green light out of the scripture.
I once heard an army chaplain say, and I quote, "Wet dreams are a gift from God." Because your body naturally seeks to mate, and builds up a pressure. As he explained it, a way dream is a divine release.
Technically couldn't you put a cock ring or something on at bedtime and have it go back up the urethra?
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:46:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cock rings delay orgasm but generally don't prevent ejaculation. Also, leaving one on for more than a half-hour can be dangerous and impair circulation.
I stand corrected by you and wonderfulwordofweed. I kinda remembered a place on my ex-husband's penis that if I pressed it when he came, it would not come out. It was oral sex, finished up with a handjob, so we both saw nothing come out. Never covered that in sex ed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you can induce retrograde ejaculation (into the bladder) by pressing the perineum (right behind the balls but in front of the taint) before and during ejaculation. But on his actual penis? I'm not sure how that would work unless you somehow clamped off the urethra.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_ejaculation
Oh, maybe that's what I was doing but attributed it to a different finger. I thought it was the pressure on the underside near the base where the penis meets the body. I did have other fingers around his sack and probably pressed upward right behind the sac for leverage. Again, not something we learned from sex ed. We were both surprised the first time and tried a few different things before we could make it happen when we wanted.
I didn't think they would stop a man from having an orgasm, just stop the semen from exiting the penis during orgasm. But as others have pointed out, it's a bad idea to leave anything restrictive on a penis for an extended period of time. They don't cover those type of things in sex ed.
markko79 ยท 6644 points ยท Posted at 22:25:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse here. Retired after 27 years on the job. The number of American 20-somethings that don't know if they're circumcised or not is surprisingly high. When one with urinary tract infection symptoms needs to give a specimen for testing, I ask, "Are you circumcised?" If not, I have to tell them to pull back the foreskin before peeing in the cup. The number of guys who have asked, "What's that?" is way too many. For the record, I can count the number who were uncircumcised on two hands.
wofo ยท 4308 points ยท Posted at 23:30:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a guy who I'm 99% sure was circumcised who thought that he was not because "circumcision is when you cut off the head of the penis." Yeah, no.
markko79 ยท 2778 points ยท Posted at 23:37:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked one patient who argued with me, "What do you think that brown ring around your dick is? A beauty mark? No. It's a scar."
My son is 5 and my wife left the decision totally up to me. I'm circumcised.
I asked my doctor and he said there wasn't much reason to. There is some new evidence it can help prevent AIDS transferrence (but not by a lot, and not necessary with proper protection) and if boys don't clean well enough it can require surgery later.
He said most guys do it so their son will look like them. He asked "isn't it more important for him to look like the boys in the change room?" and told me that in the mid-sized Ontario town I live in (Kingston) it is very rare for a boy to be circumcised.
I was already leaning pretty far toward not doing it because I agonise over the <2% chance of disaster.
I had just had our son, and was waking up in severe pain as the anesthesia wore off. I heard a blood curdling scream from the next room that went on and on - it was a baby crying. It was so nerve wracking hearing the poor thing. When the nurse came in to check me I asked her what that was- she said it was the baby next door getting circumcised. That did it for me. Our kids are uncut.
It was touted as an anti-masturbatory measure, that's what made it so prevalent among the general population in North America. Aside from the religious groups who practice it, I mean.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 09:12:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't it Mr Kellog, the cereal tycoon? He thought circumcision made masturbation less pleasurable.
Correction, it was a Dr Kellogg, the rest of what I have written is correct. Google Kellogg and circumcision.
Just to chuck in a thought. Is it possible that the American fixation with guns is because so many boys experienced genital mutilation at a very early age? After all the action of a semi-automatic pistol is awfully similar to that of an uncircumcised dick...
Come on you trolls, I can take it!
Children were originally circumcised for religious reasons, now most people in US do it because they've had it done to them, or so their child's penis will look "normal."
Just anathema to me. Don't understand at all how it is considered normal practice. You chop a bit of your sons dick off, just to appease your desire to conform. Completely fucked up IMO. Unless there is a medical reason for it, it is male genital mutilation.
The part that really bothers me too is the lack of anesthetics. Not only are you mutilating your kids genitals because it's more comfortable for you to do than teaching him how to wash it, but he has to feel every second of it.
So what of he won't remember it when he's older? What kind of a fucked up excuse is that to harm your child?
So what of he won't remember it when he's older? What kind of a fucked up excuse is that to harm your child?
I'm kinda torn on this part, myself. On the one hand, I absolutely see what you're saying. From a moral and logical standpoint, it's really hard to argue against hurting babies.
On the other hand, it's pretty hard to get outside my own viewpoint on the matter because I could not care less about my snipped dick. It's just a penis, and for all I care the doctor could have dropkicked me on my way out; the fact that I don't remember means it's something I spend zero percent of my day worrying about.
I mean, shit. If my mom decided to stamp me with a branding iron when I had come out, I'd probably consider that pretty weird but whatever, that was over a quarter-century ago.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Subjecting children to that pain likely leaves psychological marks, even if they can't remember it.
Sintek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any study showing the psychological differences between UC and C boys?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like in fact there was quite some work done on it and it was generally not favorable for circumcision. (Haven't looked for counter pieces though)
Sintek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you read through that article very well.
The "psychological effects on animal behavior"
Interpreting how a 3 year old feels after being circumcised. And how people "feel" about being circumcised when they are preselected from a "movement" as feeling they did not have a choice is not a good study.
And saying that pre-adolescent and adolescent boy that are circumcised experience PTSD are absolutely correct, but that is not the case in 99% of the circumcisions, Most are infant. if I was 8 years old and got circumcised you BET I would have PSTD
And the feeling of boys that HAD hypospadias then got surgery does not count, did they compare those finding again say children who had the same feeling when they had cleft lips? no, this study has sooo many holes in it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just linked the article to show that indeed, there has been studies done about it.
The problem is that finding a sufficently large amount of participants for such a study that accounts for all sorts other influence, while also manageing to account for locker room problems to weed that bias out propably leaves you with a required sample size in the millions.
However there are well established links between infants being subjected to pain and later psychological problems.
Sintek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could understand a constant and consistent severe pain for an infant causing psychological issue later on, but not a 20 minute minor surgical procedure. like say being crushed through a vagina is probably painful and traumatic for an infant, but no one is studying that and saying lets all get c-sections.
Im only playing devil advocate hear and trying to be unbiased. It seem like every study there is, is from some anti circumcision group or funded by one and is right off the bat against it and grabbing at anything that they can twist and manipulate people who don't read the full article into believing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The formation of scar tissue that exists for life strongly implies that the wound isn't healed immediately and wound healing often comes with more pain.
Saw a discussion about this on a UK Newspaper Article that the paper shared on Facebook. Someone made this point and I agreed in my head, the amount of people who shot that person down was unbelieveable. Mostly women too. All basically saying it's nothing like FGM because it's basically just a bit of skin compared to having your clitoris cut off entirely, being sewn shut and having to be cut open again to pee and later in life have sex. Regardless of the damage it can cause physically, it's still mutilating genitals so it's still Male Genital Mutilation in my eyes even if it's not as dangerous as FGM.
Yeah I couldn't agree more with what you just said. It's not a competition of mutilation or who experiences more pain top trumps. FGM may well be more horrific but male circumcision is still mutilation as you say. The difference is that male circumcision is a practice mainly performed by "civilised" nations.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:42:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Cutting off a member is absolutely horrible. So is cutting off the skin around the member. I don't understand why it gets turned into a pissing contest when we just need to push for people to stop mutilating babies.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:12:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sintek ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im sorry but NO.
Standard FGM is to partially or fully remove the clitoris, which is NOT the same or nearly the same as circumcision.
If males had the same level of GM the females had they would be chopping off the head of the penis and smoothing to the contour of the rest of the shaft.
MGM to a female would be like shortening Long Labia that stuck out too far.
agreed. People are like sheep. I never understood it.
[deleted] ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 09:16:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did it for my son because it's less likely he will get an infection or uti being circumcised. I'm glad I did it, he's almost ten and still can't wipe his ass right.
I don't understand though. Unless there is a pre existing medical condition, there shouldn't be any reason to remove it. That's like ripping your toenails off just in case they get fungal infections in the future. If you clean properly then infections shouldn't be any more likely.
Also, the head of the penis must get incredibly dry and lose some of the feeling over time. Although I wouldn't know, does it?
Ultimately - the foreskin is there for a reason. Why get rid of it if it's causing no discomfort or harm?
I agree to not circumcise but "the foreskin is there for a reason" is not a good argument. Many things in the human body are kinda useless or not really needed.
Not really, I assumed (probably incorrectly) that people were well aware of the benefits of having a foreskin. Hence my utter confusion as to why people feel the need to remove it.
Ooh, fun fact about this. I believe it's a nerve that has grown around an artery, so it makes a little detour in the human neck. It's not really an issue as it's just a small detour. In fact, it happened very early on in evolution, and this detour is present in many animals. Including the giraffe, which has a very long neck, in which the detour is no longer small, and is huge and completely and utterly useless.
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 13:44:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can down vote me all day long lol, couldn't care less. I'd do it again. I asked his dad and my current husband what they would prefer. They are both happy they got circumcised. I don't want my son to have to deal with having a penis that looks different then boys in his locker room. I don't want him having to 'prepare' his romantic lady friend before something happens, and I don't want him to have to take extra care of his parts his entire life.
I'm an escort, (see comment history) I absolutely hate when I get a client that hasn't been circumcised. 100% of the time when I pull back the skin it smells. It's GROSS. The man can be perfectly normal and clean otherwise, you can't help that shit from stinking.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:51:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and let's be honest the kind of guy going to an escort that's already been filled with 4 or 5 loads that day isn't the kind that bothers too much about washing his dick.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:00:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If course I have lol, what's that got to do with anything?
There are so many things that are wrong this post that I don't even know where to begin. So I'm not going to. Let's just agree to disagree.
EvilSJW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:31 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I don't want my son to have to deal with having a penis that looks different then boys in his locker room"
I mean...I'm no expert on teenage boys but do they really spend a ton of time examining the genitals of other boys around them?
"I don't want him having to 'prepare' his romantic lady friend before something happens"
lmfao this is such a stupid statement. If she's old enough to have sex she's old enough to hear "oh, that's just my foreskin".
"I absolutely hate when I get a client that hasn't been circumcised."
....Not to stereotype here, but I'd assume dudes who are hiring an escort don't give much thought into cleaning their genitals to make a positive impression. Cleaning your dick takes like a minute at the longest.
Not true; religious circumcision was never widespread in the US outside of the Jewish community. Circumcision was made popular as a means to reduce male masturbation. Today it is mainly done because it is a multi-billion dollar a year business.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:13:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heh.. here is the best part. The hospitals charge a biohazard disposal fee, keep the forskin, and then sell them to stem cell research facilities for a pretty steep price.
So when you see resistance in the US to stopping male ritual genital mutilation; now you know why. There are billions of dollars in play. The healthcare industry, which is mainly for profit corporations now, and medical research corporations (for profit), all make a ton of money off of the practice. It is a solid revenue stream to every hospital and pediatric doctor group in the county.
So sad, they could have made a pouch of the foreskin. Then you could have used it to store an engagement ring in the future or something. Or your first tooth or something.
that's untrue. The catholic community in North America, especially Canada practiced circumcision. Most Catholics would have celebrated The Feast of the Circumcision as well......
I'm pretty sure most people circumcise now because of misleading information, like it keeps your penis clean, and prevents diseases. Although I did forget about the anti-masturbation part of circumcision, thanks for mentioning that.
beltorak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:48:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
other's have answered, but I may as well add a cool video about it.
It's just Adam ruins everything. He usually gives a pretty good overview.
Here he is slightly wrong on the reduced HIV transmission for circumcised men (those studies are bogus) and he fails to mention that circumcision is now an extremely profitable industry.
Apparently it was widely thought to be more hygienic and (supposedly) makes it harder to contract AIDS. Most of the moms I've spoken to - in Canada at least - have said they aren't/have not had their sons circumcised, so I feel it's a dying trend from a less educated time.
There's a bunch of other stuff, but what it really comes down to is that Americans are especially ready to defend decisions that they have already made so they don't feel guilty about them, and American parents are just not ready to consider the idea that most of them have mutilated their newborn children for inadequate reasons.
Sinai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These replies about puritanism of various strains are not accurate. What happened was that the medical establishment adopted it as a prophylactic measure against disease. By the time they realized it had little to no science backing up the proposed disease reduction, it was ingrained in US culture and has been slow to decline.
It was not common in the generations before WWII. It became common afterwards, it was considered to be more hygienic (especially for the women, as there was some kind of disease women could get from men that didn't have good hygiene ( I forget what it was called). The boomer generation may have been the first to be routinely circumcised, and the trend continued. By the 90s the medical community were not routinely recommending it anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really sure, but when my son was born 3 years ago, the doc said they pretty much do it by default now due to hygeneic reasons.
Due to hygienic reasons. What a load of horse shit. What about just washing correctly and frequently?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:14:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans are lazy...?
Piteraaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents explained to me the importance of washing and cleaning the body at a young age. I think when I was little I asked about my foreskin and both my parents explained how I was to clean that part.
Just pull back and wash. After urination, fucking carefully wipe with toliet paper. It's not rocket science lol.
Over zealous christians in the early years of our country believed that it would stop kids from pleasuring themselves. (It didn't work) but it became such common practice that it just kinda stuck.
trex694 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A doctor said this to me when I asked "if you have ever cleaned cottage cheese out of an old mans dick, you wouldn't think twice about having your son circumcised"
EvilSJW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:40 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of logic is that? Some old people don't have the capacity to wash certain things so you should mutilate your child's genitals for something that might happen 80 years in the future??
I guess it's the porn industry and media what not, but circumcision is just seen as cleaner and more normal. Like I think a dick not circumcised is gross, however I am a guy with it done. So I am sure if I hadn't my opinion would be different. I have talked to some friends though who never got it done, and they regret it, because the way it looks. So idk
That's what the medical professionals believed, and told me. But that poor baby! I know you're being sarcastic... but I can still hear that baby in my mind. I can't believe that the drs are so out of touch with reality that they can perform those procedures and still believe they are not causing suffering.
It lowers pain tolerance for life, for one thing. Also many people who have been through severe trauma of some sort as an adult don't remember it- does that mean they didn't/don't suffer?
I'm not in favor of circumcisions myself, to be honest. But on the side of trauma not remembered, I wonder.
my circumcision was before I gained control of my mind, which happened when I was three. I suffered for not a second before, because I did not exist as a conciousness before I was three.
So from personal experience, I feel like there's a huge gap where the body's ringing the bell, but there's nobody in there to answer the door, to put it in the simplest terms for me. I would say suffering does not occur.
The first part we can throw out because few people wouldn't hurt a baby in order to make the baby's life "better".
The second part is where I'm intrigued though. Let's say that there's no evidence that circumcision makes anyone's life "quantifiably worse" or quantifiably better. Now where are we? What about pinky toes? What about ear lobes? And what about animals w/o self-awareness? What about people w/o self-awareness?
You're against circumcision so I'm not even trying to argue that with you. I'm just thrown by the logic you employ when questioning the moral limits of causing suffering in a living thing that can experience suffering with or without the experience of "self".
Note, I'm not some psychopath hellbent on torturing things. But I will explain for you, as much as I can without sounding like an asshole.
Without that sense of self, there's nothing storing the experience. There may be pain, as the nervous system exists, but there's no memory or anything.
If I were somehow magically pulled out of my body, and someone tazed my body a few times, would I be suffering? Well... No. Not whatsoever. I might when I'm put back in, throwing up and massaging my muscles, but for any time I am somehow not present...
Moral limits of causing suffering in a living thing that can experience suffering
I don't believe non-sentient creatures can suffer. They might have a sense of pain, but without memory or some kind of change in long-term brain activity, it's just pain. I don't want to hurt things anyway, but morally, I think it's more about how much society frowns upon inflicting pain.
now where are we? What about pinky toes? What about ear lobes?
I mean, if we could give earlobes a purpose or make pinky toes better for balancing, why not? I see nothing ethically wrong there. I also kind of don't understand the question, i might have to reread this thread.
what about animals w/o self-awareness?
There's a strange and invisible line I've been forgetting to note in my other comments, which is that any pain caused to something non-sentient creatures is an ethical issue if it causes brain chemistry to change. I'm kind of a hypocrite here because we can't tell how someone's brain is permanently affected by these things, so I can't (ethically, there's my line) make decisions based off of any of this argument.
what about humans w/o self-awareness?
Hmm. You know how we have the turing test, to determine if a machine has self-awareness? I wonder if we have something like that for humans that tells us if someone is not. I'd feel sorry for that person.
I think what you mean (I could be wrong) is that you don't think that animals that can't reason can suffer. I would define sentience as the ability to experience sensations which animals obviously can do. I'm wondering where you would draw that line then.
What if you were electrocuted and were completely aware of it but just forgot about it 5/10 minutes later? You listed memory as a capacity to suffer. We know animals have memories and many have a limited sense of "physical self".
Why exactly is it only an ethical question if it causes brain chemistry to change? Are you suggesting it has to be "permanently effected"? If so we've moved beyond just pain.
We're starting to think that some people in comas feel pain. They wouldn't be able to have any degree of self awareness however.
While I'm not a specialist in philosophy, isn't what you're referring to just self-awareness? I'm moderately sure I covered this in high-school philosophy lessons.
In that case, it would be fine to operate on most animals, including, say, the family dog, without anesthesia, because nobody's answering the door. However, there is also evidence that trauma like this can affect kids later in life. Apparently surgery was done on babies without anesthetic at one point, until they realised this.
Regardless, in this case, it's chopping off part of a dick for no real reason (due to past religious misconceptions). The kid's life is arguably worse because the parents can't be bothered to research why they're slicing parts off of the baby.
When I found out I was having a boy I did a good amount of Internet research and read enough sad stories of babies being tortured that i decided to leave him uncut... so many stories...
photenth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair the internet isn't the best place to do medical research unless you read papers.
There's a reason they typically don't do it in front of the parents. I think all parents should have to watch and hear what happens to a baby boy being circumsized.
Not saying anyone should or shouldn't have their son circumcised (I am, fwiw). My wife's nephew wasn't circumcised and kept getting infections downstairs due to lack of cleanliness, and had to be circumcised when he was 7. I am 36 and have memories back to being 5. That kid is going to remember that for the rest of his life. shudders
Lack of cleanliness would be due to the parents not monitoring the kid's hygiene; unless he had some sort of malfunction of the foreskin or something, which made it difficult to clean. I know a guy that had that, and he got circumcised in the Navy because of it.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:13:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son slept through circumcision at 2 weeks. I needed to locate a doctor that would numb the area before cutting though. A lot don't see the need to numb the area, which baffled me.
My ex husband thought I was being ridiculous, thankfully I have my own brain.
Unfortunately this is a myth, they usually enter shock from the pain. There is no other place one could cut a child that people would say they 'don't feel a thing'. What you do to your children in this regard is commonly considered your choice and I'm not criticizing that.
To be fair this myth is propagated by the ear piercing of small children as well. It's done because they "don't feel" it when mainly they just won't remember the pain.
Outside of religious circles, it developed when people were convinced that masturbating caused disease, so they removed the foreskin in the hope it would stop people masturbating. It's shocking we still allow it to continue today, when it's essentially the male equivalent of FGM.
[deleted] ยท -47 points ยท Posted at 05:47:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the baby doesn't remember it though.
edit: oh wow this was the wrong thread to be pragmatic(?) in
edit2: i am now getting nasty private messages from people that are saying mean things. i am just gonna delete this account and roll a new one. gg no re.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 06:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dont worry, beating your baby is 100% ok, the baby won't remember it!
They used to do surgery on babies without anesthesia following the same logic. Studies showed that this causes long term psychological trauma, even though they didn't remember. Unfortunately, general anesthesia for children under 5 causes developmental retardation; but we still find it's better than none at all
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you gald? Have you read up on it and fully understand what it entails?
As a woman, I equate it to someone skinning my clit, and there is no way I would be ok with that. It's even worse than that because it removes function as well as nerves.
I wouldn't even like it if someone pierced my ears as a baby and that doesn't even remove a functional body part. I feel it's my body and it's not ok for anyone to modify it. Circumcision is really physically harmful to body.
I was not circumcised as a baby, ended up having foreskin issues and got circumcised at 13, would have rather it been done at birth and saved me a few years of trying to figure out what was wrong...
A lot of the time foreskin issues come from the same misinformation that drives people to circumcise. Like the foreskin of a baby being retracted because parents think you need to clean under it. This will cause damage and issues later.
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:16:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct. A lot of parents are clueless...but many are wising up and leaving their son's alone...washing an intact penis on an infant is as simple as washing a fingertip.
You are the exception though, not the rule. If 100% of boys were circumcised, 95% would be needless. If you think your experience is a reason to circumcise all boys, I'd dare say that you would be being a bit solipsistic
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 07:49:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am circumsized. I am glad.
There are a few reasons for this.
1. Looks better
2. easier to clean, maintain
3. in my experience, from what I've heard, girls get more pleasure from circumsized penises.
That is absolute bullshit. Do you even know men with intact penises? What do you think a penis is like, a chinese puzzle box? You pull back the foreskin, you wash with warm water, done.
For smegma to build you'd have to not clean your dick for weeks. It's certainly not common.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems you have a really in depth opinion on circumcision, and are very passionate about it. That's fine, but you're too angry to discuss this with, and just flat out deny any possible deficiencies with not being circumsized. So yeah, goodnight.
I'm not angry. I'm annoyed. You clearly know nothing about how an intact penis works and yet you keep yapping. The only things you can cite are things you "heard", probably from people who haven't seen an intact penis in their entire life.
Actually talk to people who have a foreskin and/or have slept with people who have a foreskin. Then come back and maybe we can have a discussion based on facts and not on rumors that go around your circle of friends.
Bonus points if you do a trail and suck 10 intact and 10 circumcised dicks and report back your experience. :P
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, you don't really know if anything you're saying is true.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:29 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol. noted.
PLAAND ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:06:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm beginning to question your genital hygiene if you're this insistent you would have problems with smegma were you uncircumcised... Spoiler Alert: Your penis is still gross if you aren't washing regularly, circumcised or not.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you telling me you've never had smegma.
PLAAND ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that I can recall, so not since I was like 10 years old at least, and even then, it wouldn't have been a frequent thing.
Wow no I actually don't know anyone or through anecdotes who has had reoccurring smegma. It's to be completely ignorant towards personal hygiene (or medical conditions) to develop smegma.
PLAAND ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) Subjective. I'll allow that you think it looks better. I think circumcised penises look weird.
2) That's crazy talk, the cleaning and maintenance requirements of simply pulling back the foreskin and then washing as normal are vastly overstated.
3) In my limited experience no one has indicated to me a difference between the two. What is verifiably true is that masturbation is less pleasurable for you.
What is verifiably true is that masturbation is less pleasurable for you.
I chose to have it done at 18 for aesthetic reasons, I have not noticed a loss of pleasure. Feels about the same, just less... loose? Not really sure how to describe the change. Still, feelsgoodman.jpg
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 08:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for allowing it.
No, no matter what you say, it is easier to clean a circumsized penis. Also, smegma.
yeah, masturbation is worse for me. But it's still good, and again, girls seem to like circumsized dicks alot more.
PLAAND ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:56:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, no matter what you say, it is easier to clean a circumsized penis. Also, smegma.
Ever tried? Also, I can't remember the last time I even thought of the word smegma, let alone had to deal with it.
yeah, masturbation is worse for me. But it's still good, and again, girls seem to like circumsized dicks alot more.
In my experience that hasn't been the case, I haven't seen a preference for one or the other. But that may be cultural, or just my luck. But I guess my question is how are you so sure? Have you ever tried having sex using an uncircumcised penis?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I guess my question is how are you so sure
Well first off, I haven't once indicated that girls enjoy circumsized penises 100% more than uncircumsized. I said that this is what I have heard from all of my female friends who I've been in this discussion with.
And how are you so sure that it isn't better?
Honestly, this is all a bit ridiculous. I voiced my opinion and it seems all of you are way to insecure to just accept that mine is dofferent from yours.
PLAAND ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What you've indicated, repeatedly, and in multiple places is that your experience is valid, while other people's experiences are not.
Unfortunately, you don't really know if anything you're saying is true.
I'm afraid you have no right to make this claim.
Among others.
Read my comments again. All I've done is challenge the idea that your experience and opinion are universally true. You're the one who's treated their opinion and preconceptions as prescriptive fact. I don't think anyone here has said something like "In my experience girls get more pleasure from intact penises." just that in our experiences, both as receptive and insertive partners throughout this thread, there's not much difference.
Me: "I haven't seen a preference for one or the other."
/u/proweruser: "I for one like sucking intact cock more, than circumcised cock, but I guess it's a matter of taste." and "I have a lot of female friends and none of them have ever said anything like that."
/u/Alpacauno: "Another girl who had experience with condom-less intact sex, said she liked it because there was less friction, but she noticed a difference mostly when at first. Once she got wet enough there wasn't much difference."
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I, though I can't speak for others, am not attacking you or your penis. I'm sure it's a fine penis. All I'm doing trying to show that having an intact penis isn't deficient, "disgusting", or the devil.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm way over this but I have to say that when I said that those people "had no right to make that claim" or whatever, it was because they were making claims that warranted my response. Did you bother looking into that?
Also, not once did I say my opinion is universally true. This all started with me voicing my opinion and everybody getting very insecure about it.
You're serioulsy putting words into my mouth here.
PLAAND ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't explicitly say "My opinion is the only valid one!" What you did was aggressively shoot down every single person who presented an experience that didn't agree with yours. You insisted to people with intact foreskins that their penises were unhygienic and had smegma problems, even though those very same people were telling you that isn't the case.
You insisted that women in your experience had a preference for circumcised penises, and used that to disregard the experiences of others, including some women who have found that no such preference exists.
You did not have to "say" that your opinion is universally true. That's what you "indicated" through your behaviour.
Don't you think there's room here for circumcised vs. intact to be one of those issues where one is not better than the other? Can't all our penises just be nice on their own merits, rather than insisting that other people's bodies are "disgusting" because they aren't like yours?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need better reading comprehension skills. None of what you are saying is true, at all. And quite frankly I'm disgusted with all these accusations. How old are you? That may explain some things.
PLAAND ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to all the people who have to deal with smegma.
Unfortunately, you don't really know if anything you're saying is true.
Where I sit in Canada, foreskin is disgusting.
[Again], girls seem to like circumsized dicks alot more.
1 word. Smegma. Thank god I don't have to deal with that.
Foreskin is ugly bro.
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I'm inclined to believe that you're a troll, but based on your posting history this doesn't seem like a troll account. If you really think you're blameless in all this, and a victim of baseless accusations, I suggest you re-read what you've posted and do an honest self-assessment. You've been acting like a bully, and shaming people for how their bodies look. That's not to say that other people haven't been unfair to you, some of them have, but that's not what we're talking about right now.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the "foreskin is ugly bro" was me trolling. Because I thought it was quite funny how insecure all these people are. The "In Canada, foreskin is disgusting" was an exaggeration but it's still true to an extent.
Everything else is perfectly reasonable. They're just arguments for why I am glad I'm circumsized. Which was the reason I posted in the first place. But apparently I'm not allowed to be glad that I'm circumsized.
That's not to say that other people haven't been unfair to you
Yeah, you think? Everything I'm saying pales in comparison to what these people have been saying to me.
My only regret was having to suffer through the recovery. Hoo boy was that intense.
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 08:11:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You serious?
1. MY opinion (and literally everybody else's where I'm from). Don't try to invalidate it by projecting I have some deep lying insecurity about the look of my penis. Are you kidding? That's crazy talk, dude.
1 word. Smegma. Thank god I don't have to deal with that.
Like I said, absolutely ridiculous. You don't know anything about me, It boggles my mind to see you projecting your opinion on me and so adamantly believing that I agree with it deep down or some shit.
I for one like sucking intact cock more, than circumcised cock, but I guess it's a matter of taste.
easier to clean, maintain
Were both your hands amputated, too? How hard can it be to pull back your foreskin while you wash your dick?
in my experience, from what I've heard, girls get more pleasure from circumsized penises.
I have a lot of female friends and none of them have ever said anything like that. So I'd guess it was something a girl said to make a guy feel more special, but isn't even remotely true in reality.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:23:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard uncircumsized penises can leave a funny taste in the mouth.
Smegma. It seems alot of people have trouble washing their penis.
Looks scarred. Seeing the scaring of my BF's dick makes me feel bad that he had to go through that.
All you have to do is pull your foreskin back for a second in the shower.
No. Women don't really get much physical pleasure from actual intercourse anyway. Defiantly not saying it's bad or not enjoyable, but a woman's pleasure is really all about the clit. Sex with clitoral stimulation and without is worlds apart. The vaginal canal isn't similar to an inverted penis. With a dick a guy can feel the whole length and its covered in those special sex nerves. For women only the first couple inches have any sort of feeling that matters. Pretty much the only thing that matters to stimulate these nerves is girth. I've never been with an uncut guy, but I've talked to people who have. One girl said she didn't notice a difference, but they always used a condom. Another girl who had experience with condom-less intact sex, said she liked it because there was less friction, but she noticed a difference mostly when at first. Once she got wet enough there wasn't much difference. A gay guy who would go sans condom said the foreskin created a nice gliding motion and he had a strong preference for uncut.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The scar is just a line half way down my penis. Other than that, does not look scarred.
Smegma.
Matter of opinion. My experience says circumsized penises are better for pleasure. For women.
It's really not fair to compare a foreskin that works well with one that is too tight (I would guess that was the medical reason). The later will only hurt when you get an erection and not serve it's usual functions.
R-Guile ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:23:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer to decide which parts of my body to remove.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're mad simply because you didn't get to make the decision whether or not you were to be circumsized.
He never said he wasn't mad about those things as well, but fact of the matter is that a person should be upset about being mutilated at birth at someone else's discretion.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:17:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I "should" align my opinion with yours, eh? Bullshit. That's not a fact, dude. Please search up the definition of fact.
I'm glad my parents decided to have me circumsized, the fact that you think I should be absolutely livid does not change that.
How is that even remotely equal? That the North American culture has people thinking that a part of the male body is anything but perfectly normal quite frankly shouldn't have any bearing on the decision to literally cut the end of infant childrens pricks off. I mean seriously, how does that even remotely equate?
None of the penis is a particularly visually appealing organ but there's nothing innately wrong with the foreskin and it actualy has a decent amount of function that I wouldn't want to be without.
I just don't understand how this is the prevailing opinion across the pond. I simply do not understand.
Actually on "to each their own". I may be stepping out of line here but that works when discussing what flavour ice cream is best, not what you're chopping a part of a person's body off without even a hint of thought as to whether that might end up affecting them down the line.
PLAAND ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To chime in, I'm Canadian as well, and maybe I don't spend enough time with other people's penises, but he's definitely overstating the universal disdain for uncircumcised penises in Canada. My foreskin has been completely unremarkable for every person I've had sex with so far.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where in Canada.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've presented my arguements for why I enjoy being circumsized. And vice versa. It is clearly a matter of opinion... if you can't simply grasp that I'm not going to eventually agree with you... I'm sorry.
Believe it or not, there are arguments for both. Accept that and then move on.
R-Guile ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I had problems. I guess there's more than one way to be an insensitive prick.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in America, and that is because it's become some weird culture thing...
dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ancient Greeks thought small penises were better, who's to say who's got a weird dick and who doesn't? Maybe mushroom dicks will be in style next year. (hopefully not)
rhyspar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:29:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an unnecessary surgery on an infant, that causes them pain and has risks. Sure the baby doesn't remember the trauma but ergh, Google how circumcision actually works and the thought of signing up a baby for it will disturb you greatly.
Source: accidentally saw diagram of surgery and pictures of it. Never again.
Edven971 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The baby doesn't remember it, lol have to agree
turtlecb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure why you're being downvoted, it's a valid point. The long-term emotional toll from getting a curcumcision is next to none, unless the surgey went wrong somehow.
Edit: Just noticed the shitstorm of angry replies you got, they're pretty depressing to read. Get your shit together reddit, they weren't saying it's ok to kick babies because "lol they'll forget about it later".
Reading comprehension, people. You're making your 3rd grade English teacher cry.
PLAAND ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, how about this, would you poke a baby with a sewing needle, say, in the foot, just deep enough to draw blood? The baby won't remember, and unlike some other examples given here, it's effectively harmless in the long term. Arguably even less harmful than circumcision but medically, equally unjustified. Would you do it?
That's the point you seem to be missing, that there's no medical justification for most infant circumcision, it is a cosmetic procedure that causes pain to living creature that cannot consent. It's like stabbing a baby with a sewing needle, and baseless ideas about vanity, tradition and 'cleanliness' are used to mask its equivalent pointlessness.
I think everyone commenting in support of this comment is glossing over the whole, "unless the surgey went wrong somehow," line. Why roll the dice with your child's genitals?
In 2007 in Ontario a child died from sepsis from complications from a circumcision. It's extraordinarily rare but if a doctor at the hospital told you that he wanted to give your kid a pill that had a 1:1,000,000,000 chance of killing him but would make his hair healthy and thick I don't think you'd risk it.
Not to mention just other complications. They did 5 year survey at Massachusetts General Hospital (2010) and found that 7.4% of all pediatric urology visits were for circumcision complications.
If your son lost his penis I doubt he'd find much consolation in the fact that his father is weirdly picky about penises.
tpbvirus ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:19:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean is this not true. I was circumcised when I was an infant, and I dont remember shit about it. Nothing, nada, not even the pain. My dad on the other hand was circumcised when he was 10, and that shit to him was vivid. He recalls every detail of it.
So yes, if you want your baby circumcised, please do it when they're younger. Like ages 0-3. Sure it'll be hard to watch, but they really aren't going to remember jack shit about it.
Poopyoo ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:02:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as much as i wouldnt cut part of my kids dick off if i had a kid, you're still 100% correct unless the kid has some freak memory
[deleted] ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 05:15:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have a friend that bragged to me about getting her son circumcised. Like she had somehow cheated the system because "I just don't want to have to clean it for him".
What a shithead. I wanted to slap that smug look off her face. We aren't friends anymore.
Except by the age it actually needs anything doing with it different to any other dick I'd be pretty creeped out if she was cleaning her son's dick. Isn't it literally fused to the head until nearly puberty?;
kikellea ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people don't realize it's supposed to be fused, though. Like, even doctors use that excuse to circumcise instead of medical treatment first... If treatment is even needed at all.
A lot of women don't realize penises rarely get infections, either, which is ignorance of basic anatomy. (Go biology classes, you're doing great!) And/or they're too lazy or scared to teach their sons proper hygiene, I guess.
aonome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:23 on January 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes and a lot of American doctors don't know this so they tell parents to forcibly retract it, causing scar tissue to form. The child then gets phimosis because of this and the doctors and parents think "see, all these uncut kids have phimosis, circumcision should be routine!" Totally oblivious to the fact that they have induced phimosis in the child. It's fucking tragic.
Aftercare for a newborns circumcised penis is so much more work than left intact. Is it easier to care for a finger or an open wound.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say she was right. That was her reasoning. Unless it was actually medically needed, I couldn't care less why she thought it was a good idea. Unless it's a necessary procedure for whatever reason, it's just genital mutilation.
He said most guys do it so their son will look like them. He asked "isn't it more important for him to look like the boys in the change room?"
Never understood these arguments for circumcision.
I never knew my dad and I'm a woman, but I'm pretty sure it isn't normal for dads to show their sons their dick.
In the girls locker room it was keep your eyes to yourself and get in and out of clothes as quick as possible. Zero inspection of each others junk. Plus couldn't you just keep your underwear on? Why would another kid care about your dick anyway?
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:44:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a shame cause you missed out on some key moments with your dad, the weekly dick comparisons. Did everyone else whose circumcised do this too?
Kids are curious creatures & it is common for them to bathe with their parents. Kids are going to look & compare themselves. I know I did as a child. You probably did, too. It happens.
I was never addressing your issue with circumcision. I am personally against it in all cases barring a medical reason.
What I was addressing is the fact that children compare themselves with other people, both their peers & to their parental figures. Your original comment doesn't seem to acknowledge that children are curious creatures that are exploring their world.
Kids are inquisitive, and a dick is just another part of your body. How are you supposed to teach your son how to piss on his own if he can't look at your dick? It's part of growing up and a completely innocent and necessary one.
How are you supposed to teach your son how to piss on his own if he can't look at your dick?
Are you serious?
Women do this everyday. Generally you get them used to going on those little kid potties while sitting. When it comes to standing throw some fruit loops in the bowl and tell him to aim for them. If he can't handle that then start target practice in the tub. There are also cartoons and books to aid.
Ok, I accept there are many methods for teaching your son to piss. But if my son walks in the bathroom while I'm having a piss I wouldn't tell him to get out or act like there's anything wrong with that. Like I said, kids are inquisitive.
Also, the having a piss scenario was just an example. I have had many baths with my kids and see that as completely normal, I had baths with both my mum and dad when I was little and it did me no harm.
Edit: I would also like to say in response to your comment, that men also do this every day. I have two sons that I have successfully potty trained. It's not just women that do this shit you know.
There's a difference between showing your kids your dick and not hiding it from them. To be honest, if you think this is wrong then what the fuck is wrong with you?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not show it, but your kid is definitely going to see your genitals and ask questions at some point. I don't know how protective of their bodies parents are in the USA but it would be really weird if a kid had not seen their parents naked in Finland.
Ha first off, ya you have to show your son how to pee soo you kind of show by example. Unless you want a piss covered floor.
Second obviously you haven't been to an American highschool. Kids are mean, I remember one uncircumcised kid in our school got ridiculed for 4 years. Maybe it's selfish but I would never put my boy through that.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:20:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am glad things landed on the "natural" side but what kind of fucking medical doctor promotes a procedure (or lack of said procedure) on cosmetics. This dip shit logic is usually reserved for the doctors who push circumcision. The answer is easy...you can't un-circumcise so it is best to leave it alone and let the person decide to do it when they are able to (hint : No one does! ) :)
but what kind of fucking medical doctor promotes a procedure (or lack of said procedure) on cosmetics
Absolutely agreed, however;
t is best to leave it alone and let the person decide to do it when they are able to (hint : No one does! ) :)
Some people choose to do it later.
I chose to have mine done as a teen as I was having issues with retraction. It certainly wasn't a fun procedure and it'd be nice if it was done as a baby where I didn't remember it... Although I suppose my parents couldn't foresee the need when I was a baby so thats cool.
I had a choice to try alternative treatments (IIRC a topical steroid was suggested as an option) but lopping it off seemed better overall to me, so thats what we did.
so was I and I had a mix of the topical steroid and a frenuloplasty. easy surgery, easy recovery. Local anesthetic, walked out of the hospital 3h later with a few stitches, 3 week recovery with some beautiful oxytocin.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leave it to Reddit to find the ONE guy that actually needs it medically :)
You are the poster boy of how lots of Dr's sell it.
For the record, my doctor was actually against circumcision. He was stating that most guys want their son circumcised mainly because they are circumcised.
He thought that was a stupid argument, but his counter-stupid argument, was the thing about the locker room. It was his way of saying "don't circumcise" and give almost the same argument back to them that they use for pro circumcision.
To be honest, someone else said that and it sounded high, so I put the 'less then' sign in front, haha.
I'll go see if I can confirm a number....
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Well, http://nymag.com/health/features/60148/ says the percentage of complications seems to run from 0.01% all the way up to 10%, so I guess the actual number is hard to pin down.
It does say there are 2 deaths (DEATHS!) per million, which though super low, is really way way to high for me.
Yeah really. And even for complications, we're talking about messing up your junk for life. BFD if you ask me lol
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:30:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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catby ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:33:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, sometimes kids are just assholes that don't listen. My mom used to know a girl that when her mom told her to take a bath, she would go in the bathroom, turn on the water and fill up the tub, then read a book for a half hour or so. Kid went ages without actually bathing.
Also doctors tell parents not to retract the foreskin until later nowadays, you just wash around the area. My kid got an infection at age 4, he didn't require circumcision, but it was painful for the poor little guy, and even then the doctor said his foreskin wasn't ready to retract at that point.
Am I odd for thinking that it's fucking strange for people to want their kids' dicks to look similar to theirs? Why are people so concerned with the appearance of their children's genitals?
I don't think it's right, but it's not really odd in a way. Humans have a lot of fucked up things we do to make ourselves part of a group.
I think we've just accepted that this was done to our dads, and to us, and so should keep happening.
I bet my parents didn't even really debate it. We're finally now starting to go "wait, I want my child healthy, not given unnecessary surgery to look like me."
nugymmer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:39:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really can't think of any other explanation. Lazy parenting perhaps, because you have to clean it and teach the kid how to but it's not like this is difficult. It really irritates me that circumcision is still a thing. It's 2017! Stop cutting your babies' genitals!
Also, if you were to reverse it and say you gave your baby girl a labilaplasty (spelling?) so that she looked like you, people would be calling CPS. As they should.
The medical benefits of circumcision are made up bullshit to make Americans feel better about an arbitrary practice that took hold here as a way to combat masturbation. You made the right decision to not circumcise your son, but the fact that it was your decision to make is something that will be viewed as barbaric in future generations.
Beta1548 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are actual benefits to circumcision, both medical and hygienic. For me they didn't outweigh the pain and risk, but saying they don't exist isn't helping, saying they are mostly unimportant is more correct.
Here's the list from they Mayo Clinic website:
Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. Washing beneath the foreskin of an uncircumcised penis is generally easy, however.
Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The overall risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later on.
Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.
Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis.
Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.
Hygiene is a null point. It's easier to clean your hand if you don't have one too. Also, completely negligible effort to clean an intact penis, I can't imagine a person having an issue unless they were traumatized into thinking touching their penis was bad and actively avoided it.
UTI numbers are based on 1989 study of US army hospitals and only covered first month of life. It found 20 out of of 100,157 (0.02%) circumcised boys got UTIs, compared with 88 out of 35,929 (0.244%) intact boys. This study did not control for socioeconomic status, ethnicity, etc; you can use the same numbers and conclude that being Latino or Black increases your risk of getting a UTI. Subsequent studies have not achieved P-values of significance. Even taking the numbers at face value, you'd need to circumcise 444 boys to prevent one UTI. By comparison, roughly 1.25% of all girls get a UTI in the first month of life. Also by comparison, adding the circumcised complications to the circumcised UTI numbers vs just the intact UTI numbers reached parity (risk of UTI or complication: circumcised = risk of UTI: intact)
STI risks based on single study of men in Rakai, Uganda. It did show that 10ish% of intact vs 5ish% of circumcised contracted HVI, but sample size wasn't exactly huge. Fewer than 70 men got HVI meaning their sample size was under 500 and it's unclear if all participants were willing to be circumcised and they randomly selected half of them or if they had half volunteer, which would compound uncontrolled variables (religion, class, etc making one group more willing to seek circumcision). This is pretty murky water and WHO is divided on it. There have been other studies on HPV, but these didn't randomly circumcise people, they simply compared people that were and were not and there are clearly cultural differences since most circumcised people are Jewish and/or American and most intact people are not.
Phimosis is the natural state of the penis for the first years of life and the foreskin becomes retractable for most boys by age 10 and 95% by age 16-17. It's very rare for a trauma free penis to not naturally grow out of this phase at some point and exceedingly rare for it to cause complications. In about 1% of men, the frenulum naturally tears a little during their first intercourse, solving any issue. By comparison, a similar percentage of children of both sexes have upper lip and tongue frenulum (yes, same word for the same structure under your tongue and in front of upper teeth) issues that can effect speech or eating and have them clipped or wait for trauma to tear them (from inevitable toddler face-plant for instance).
This is the same as the UTI/STI argument. They're arguing that the cases of cancer caused by viruses like HPV are reduced because transmission of HPV is reduced. It has the same problems of questionable P-Values and lackluster randomization or control of outside variables.
photenth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not American here and circumcision has medical benefits (as well as drawbacks)
There is some new evidence it can help prevent AIDS transferrence (but not by a lot, and not necessary with proper protection)
It was HIV transferrence and the study was debunked.
if boys don't clean well enough it can require surgery later.
Umm.. No, it has nothing to do with keeping it clean. As a Boy grows up it is possible that his forskin will be too tight and require some treatment with some creams, and in very bad cases, surgery.
I didn't have him circumcised, btw.
You did the right thing, genital mutilation is never a good thing.
You're correct, I accidentally said AIDs when I meant HIV, however I believe it was debunked and later rebunked. According to the current Mayo Clinic webpage about circumcision:
Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.
It's not necessary in this age of safe sex practices, but it does help lower the risk.
I also confused easier hygiene with phimosis which is when the foreskin can't retract. I don't think that is caused by hygiene, but to be honest I said that because health care people I worked with had talked about this happening, but it was totally anecdotal, so maybe they were confused too.
Yeah, I know. So nice how all us Canadians are one a first name basis.
HiemJew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:01 on February 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm apple man's brother. Neither of us are cut. Let that wierd tradition die!!!!
diothar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:27:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents didn't have me circumcised and let me make the decision. At 10, I decided to because at camp and such, I was the oddball. So I did and it made high school and college a bit easier fitting in.. but at this point (I'm 34 now), I regret the decision... but I think it would have been a lot easier 15 years later to go uncircumcised than it would have been as I was growing up. My first two girlfriends told me they probably would have freaked and left if I uncut at the time. I now know I should have let them walk anyway, but at the time I would have preferred the whole sex thing with them. You probably made the right choice in his mind (later down the road).
My dad's reasoning was pretty simple: it should be the boy's choice. Dad was circumsized. I was not. I have toyed with the idea because of a number of personal factors - women can be brutal judgemental I have found - but have so far decided against getting it done.
Thanks for not mutilating your son. :) In a few decades circumcision is going to finally be viewed as outright barbarity on the same level as FGM, because it is the same. Cheers!! :)
I absolutely agree. It disgusts me that we see FGM as an unacceptable mutiliation and violation of a woman's rights, but we don't give the same respect to men. As a woman I would never allow my son to be circumcised (even if his father was), if as an adult he decides he wants it done then that is fine, it is his body and as an adult, it's his choice. but robbing him of that choice when he is incapable of voicing his wishes is an abusive violation of his personal rights.
nugymmer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even more disturbing is that those who believe in bodily autonomy (as in pro-choice on abortion) won't extend that same courtesy to their children and leave their son's private bits alone.
A lot of those people probably view children as property...which seems about right.
FGM is worse, but as you said, they're both unacceptable. It shouldn't be a contest on which genitalia gets the most fucked up - the practice itself is fucked up and that's all that really needs to be said.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, while they are both equally violating the childs rights, FGM is on another level of brutality.
Pretty sure it's not. It's not a fucking competition.
cdmedici ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:40:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely is though. FGM often involves stitching or cauterising the vagina shut entirely, after the complete removal of external genitalia such as labia and clitoris.
It's more akin to having your dick chopped off. I'm completely and utterly against circumcision, but the comparison to FGM holds zero water.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:52:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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cdmedici ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FGM is usually performed in shoddy conditions in poor countries.
Again, I'm not advocating for circumcision, but please stop conflating Western circumcision performed by trained physicians with the barbaric mutilation of little girls in the third world. Circumcision is horrible and unnecessary, I'm not saying it's not. But comparing the two is detrimental to your point more than it supports it.
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how people equate circumcision with fgm. Other than applying the term mutilation loosely to circumcision. In fgm a females genitals are literally mutilated and destroyed to prevent sexual gratification based on an evil religions gender equality issues, where as circumcision started with first Egypt, however most prevalent with Judaism for religious purposes as a way to honor a covenant and probably a way to make t easier to clean. Yes it does involve cutting and making a makes genitals look different. But a medical procedure that is mainly cosmetic, carries no ill effects other than temporary pain, and has a very low error rate is a far cry from some guy and a goat taking their favorite blade to their daughter vagina so she won't enjoy sex. Even medically done fgm is still changing the function of the females genitals. Removing entire parts in most cases. It's a truly terrible thing. My question is how can you say these two are the same thing. And why do you care if someone gets their kid snipped? It's similar to saying you shouldn't cut a child's hair because of their preference. If circumcision had any ill effects or a high rate of anything negative I'd be right with you. But it doesn't. Just let people do what they do. It's not your business. Take abortion, I am a male, I am a Christian, I believe it is wrong. Do I care if someone gets an abortion? No because it doesn't effect me or my family at all. No one has the right to tell anyone what they can and can't do based on their personal preference. I hope you don't take this as attacking you in anyway I'm genuinely interested in how one equates these two different practices. Because it makes no sense to me. Reading an interesting comment flow about circumcision turned into male genital mutilation and there's support for it.
Tl:dr - one can't equate fgm the forced and literally mutilation of a females genitals for the purpose of reducing or denying them sexual gratification with a purely cosmetic surgery to remove foreskin. One has ever lasting emotional and physical damaging effect while the other is merely cosmetic with extremely low complication rates.
1) It's not a cosmetic surgery. It's a surgery that destroys a lot of the function of the penis. Destroying the foreskin reduces a lot of the sexual pleasure a man can get, and also destroys the protective role the foreskin plays structurally and immunologicially. Circumcision can removed around 1/3 of a penis.
2) You're disgusting.
3) Foreskin isn't hair. And circumcision has many ill effects, which you'd know if you did five minutes of research.
4) I care that people are mutilating their boys without their consent, for non-medically necessary reasons. And you should, too.
5) I'm done talking to you. You need to have your moral compass checked.
See that's interested to me because there is literally no proof anywhere that it destroys the sexual pleasure a man can receive. As I mentioned there is literally zero scientifically proven negative effects. Show me a source. Link any reputable scientific study and I'll submit that I was wrong. 2nd you must be some liberal feminazi aren't you. I can tell by the way you immediately put down someone who has a different opinion than you. You have clearly underestimated my intelligence as apparently I am incapable of doing research and simply let things fall out of my head and into Reddit considering that I looked for any proof and found none before writing you politely to ask why you compared these two things, forgetting the fact that I have a penis and have had zero problems and receive sexual pleasure quite well, in fact the underside of my penis head where it was cut is actually the most sensitive part how can that be when my foreskin is gone? 3 you care only that someone doesn't see it your way and so you will shove your opinion down their throats until they give up talking to the miracle that is a brick wall speaking human words. And finally 4 you can be done talking to me all you want. All I did was politely ask why you compare the two, even saying I was not attacking you in case you turned out to be the cunt you have revealed yourself to be. I came at you with my reasoning asking for yours and in response you call me disgusting and stupid for having my own opinion instead of politely and intelligently arguing your case you were caught unprepared and lashed out like your type does putting another person down so your self image as a progressive maverick isn't compromised. Newsflash, your fatuity is showing. I'll wait while you look that up. You could have came back with sources and been respectful and we could have had an intelligent debate on this matter. However I find your interest in penis skin disturbing and you want me to check my moral compass. I only need to check it because it doesn't align with yours. I'm so sorry. Here's the truth buttercup: no one gives a shit about your opinion. No one gives a shit about my opinion. Grow the fuck up and respect others opinions or they'll never take you seriously. As a human you're a joke to me now, I will tell this tale to friends for a laugh. Had you be a respectable person that wouldn't be the case.
Tl:dr - [intelligently] go fuck yourself you're a joke of a human, I hope you don't reproduce and spread your cranial deficiency. Get off your high horse and grow up you're no better than anyone else, get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich. (Last part added just to piss off a feminazi irl I respect women that are respectable)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you! I left the decision up to my husband as well and he chose circumcision - here in the US it is still fairly common I think? - But when we had our second son I wished we hadn't done it at all :/
helm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The risks of circumcision are certainly not 0, either.
if boys don't clean well enough it can require surgery later
UK here, pretty much only Jewish people are circumcised here
and I've literally never heard of anyone needing circumcision later in life... and "holy crap I needed an operation on my dick" is the kind of things guys talk about
There were two people at my work who both knew boys that had to have surgery around age 10 to 12. I'm pretty sure they claimed it was hygiene related, but since looking it up more it seems to be just something that happens sometimes, the foreskin won't retract, I don't think it's related to washing actually.
Even if you haven't heard of it, it does happen, I just don't think it's all that common.
What's disaster? I got sniped, but then they did it again because it was growing back or something like that. Fast forward to my first erection and me in excruciating pain. Not enough skin down there so it was stretched to its limit and it took awhile before it normalized and stop hurting .
On the plus side though I can now say my dick is so fat it has strech marks.
According to one article I say, circumcision has a death rate of 2 per million. That's a pretty big disaster.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is some new evidence it can help prevent AIDS transferrence
I don't know why this is even considered an argument. So circumcision reduces risk of STDs by a small percentage. Does that mean you will not use a condom for non-exclusive sex because your chances are a little better?
Kudos to you for breaking the circle. I understand the psychological reasons for dads to have their sons circumcised so they themselves will not feel damaged, so nice to see that there are fathers who think this through and doctors who aren't after the money for a useless procedure (because Canada).
You made the right choice. Another downside is that it makes the tip less sensitive (since it doesn't have a sheath over it), which makes sex less enjoyable. With proper hygine and safe practices, there's really no reason to do it.
There is some new evidence it can help prevent AIDS transferrence (but not by a lot, and not necessary with proper protection) and if boys don't clean well enough it can require surgery later.
Well, we can also prevent breast cancer by forcing young women to have mastectomies, but we don't do that. Also, if boys don't brush their teeth, they'll need root canals later.
I would have had my son circumcized for that reason. I'm from the west coast and it's a more common thing. He was born in maritime Canada where apparently the hospitals don't even provide that service. So we'll have to talk about why dad is a little different eventually.
The hospitals here don't either, it's considered elective in Ontario. In all of Kingston there's only 1 doctor who does circumcisions, and it costs almost $400.
My doctor explained it costs so much... well, because there's only 1 doctor and so he can somewhat set the price.
r2u2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:33:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wanted to be a terrible parent, but the doctor wouldn't help me do it.
What I don't get is why people don't respect the opinions of those who were glad to be circumsised. I am circumsised, I'm happy about it, yet I brought it up on Imgur once, and I was insulted and downvoted.
Because when the time comes to be circumcised you can't communicate. It should be the penis owners choice, those who were circumcised and wish they weren't can't do anything about it.
I'm female, 36 and Canadian. It's been about 50/50 in my slightly limited experience.
--Shade-- ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 03:40:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canadian male here. I've had women think I was circumcised because they only saw my junk when it was hard, and they weren't looking too close after the deed was done-- One of them claimed they'd never go down on on uncut guy some time after she did the deed on me. Odd.
Not her. I've told the story before omitting her name in the case of mutual acquaintances. Her vehemence on the subject made it very hard not to say anything, but cough, at the time I was kind of hoping for future head, so I shut the hell up.
In most of the other cases where there were repeat encounters and the women figured it out on their own. Though in my 40ish years the fact that it's happened more than once is kind of funny. Now, I don't have a lot of first hand experience with other guys' junk, but there's still a little ridge there that I don't imagine would be there when guys are cut. (Though to be fair many of these encounters would be heat of the moment, in the darkish, with condoms involved for sex, and possibly in various states of inebriation, so women get a pass on this to a certain degree, IMHO.)
dsac ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:52:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean different for everyone tbf. When at attention mine doesn't fully retract. It's not incapable of it nor is it tight around the head, and obviously it rolls back and forth during use, but generally I guess I just have enough skin that it does need to roll back straight away.
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How didn't she know? You guys are much easier to blow.
When I'm up there's just a little speedbump a ways below the head-- Layer on starting hard when it comes out to play, dark, maybe intoxicated, and condoms involved for sex. It's happened more than once.
As an aside, I've been in a happy monogamous relationship for many years at this point. This is the most strangers have heard about my dick in a long time.
timm1blr ยท 327 points ยท Posted at 03:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
50 circumcised and 50 uncircumcised doesn't seem like limited experience.
cleeder ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 04:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
50 circumcised and 50 uncircumcised
In a ROW?!?!
dani_bar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 37!?
Jowobo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, a circle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're 50% circumcised?
puterTDI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About your demographic. I'd say my ratio is 20% uncut...
[deleted] ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 03:06:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female, 31, Canadian. Actually seen more uncut. Also now it's no longer encouraged to have it done on babies. Doctors won't bring it up unless you request it. When I had my son all that I was told was how to properly clean his penis and at what age to start teaching him to retract the foreskin. I think it's great that we are moving away from having it done automatically.
maully ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad that my boyfriend is uncircumcised and knows how to take care of his foreskin/cleaning. I've always considered not circumsizing, but I've read stories about boys and young men not knowing how to clean themselves. But now I feel more confident about raising a son with good hygiene.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:18:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But keeping a little baby clean is something else
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 10:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could just, I don't know, tell him how to clean himself?
maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but I would have to look it up! Having someone to give me hands on lessons would make it easier!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure your SO will be happy to help you with that.
maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he'll be a good dad. He's already a great uncle to my 4 niblings. I'm very lucky in more ways than one
akyrah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:51:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They gave you an age? In Australia they say don't pull it back until it happens itself.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was more of a guideline. They said by 3 he should be playing with it enough to retract it himself. Which was accurate haha
G8kpr ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:39:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In N. America, in the 70s and 80s (and maybe 90s?) it was common for doctors to automatically circumcise newborns.
My brothers and I were, and I don't think my parents even had a choice.
One of my highschool teachers said how when his second was born, the doctor came and told him (since he wasn't allowed in back then) "you have a boy, we went ahead and circumcised him"
and my teacher said "uh, you did what?"
Similarly, when my mom was little (born late 40s) they routinely took kids tonsils out, to avoid tonsillitis. So when she was about 12 or 13, she had her perfectly healthy tonsils removed.
Antibiotics didn't come into use for the American public until 1945. And even then it wasn't widespread use. They were very hard to aquire. People used to die from tonsillitis and other infections. People used to die from everything. I'm 50 yrs old and up until the 1990's, most people who had a stroke either died, were paralyzed on one side and/or had severe speech problems. People who had heart attacks died or weren't ever able to work again. Now people have heart attacks and strokes and be back at work a month later. Health care has changed 100% in the past 45 years
Davecasa ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:39:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never let them see you flaccid and they probably can't tell the difference. Just take viagra constantly, I'm sure everything will be fine.
Hmmm, self-reported data. I'm pretty sure it was actually routine in hospitals until about the 1980s. Certainly the medical people I've met have all said that was the case. Except in Quebec, as always.
Keina ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:53:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember many college conversations with other women about how uncircumcised penises felt better in bed and were more fun. I was pretty exited when I started dating someone who was intact. I wasn't disappointed.
Xamry14 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:40:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, so true.
Uncircumsized Doesn't feel like it's covered in sand paper when the guys get impatient with the foreplay lol.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I know it's probably not much consolation but your parents probably honestly believed they were acting in your best interests.
Keina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( honestly, part of my preference is probably because I feel sad for circumcised penises. I feel badly that this made you sad, and I really hope that maybe a few children out there will be able to skip over that for their parents reading things like this.
I can say though that I don't think what a penis is like has ever affected who I or anyone I know has dated, and that all sorts can be amazing
Xamry14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is exactly the reason my 1 year old is intact. I live in the south and caught so much shit for It. Ugh.
I also would never let someone's penis be the judge of if I stay with someone. The person at the controls matter more than the equipment.
Xamry14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel bad. Never feel bad about your body. Most women actually do prefer circumcised men.
And all you have to do to avoid the 'sandpaper' problem is pay attention to your partner and go for waterfall XD
Yeah, their head is always exposed, so the skin there (which normally would be like the skin of the vagina or the inside of the cheek) becomes keritanized, much like most of your skin.
icer816 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:28:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard many women (I'm a Canadian guy btw, just get into weird conversations ask the time (that I usually don't initiate)) and I've heard circumcised guys are better because they last longer since the head is less sensitive.
Xamry14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes too long.
Longer isn't always better. It sucks when what should be a pleasant moderate nature walk suddenly turns into a marathon and your unprepared if you catch my meaning.
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't encountered this problem yet but I do catch your drift.
I suppose it depends on how long each partner wants the sex to last.
Keina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mhm! I feel like they enjoy foreplay and being played with more too, from everything being more sensitive. Way easier to give handjobs too! Bjs seem about the same, but more fun when the guy reacts so much more
As a circumcised guy who really wishes he wasn't, this is what makes me feel sad and broken :(
(Not in any way trying to shit on your preference)
innle85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australian - all men I have been with have not been circumcised. But as someone who works in early childhood, I am surprised at how many boys are circumcised - about 40% I'd say.
Canadian Aboriginal... I feel your pain. Circumcision is not much of a thing in my culture lol I always find it astonishing how utterly curious women seem to be about an uncircumcised dick. It's almost uncomfortable for me when they want to "inspect" it to get a "closer look"
Not a come-on, but I would love to be in those women's shoes. Around here it's all circumcised all the time. I wish their parents didn't wade into their sons' sex lives. Circumcised sex is just not as good.
Also Canadain. I have a "Dorsal Slit" because I got an infection when I was about two and a half, and they had to make an incision in the foreskin like so: http://imgur.com/a/LHzPF
Before clicking, please note that it is not a picture of my ween, it's a medical drawing with a line drawn where the incision is. Click at own risk.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was afraid to ask my boyfriend for two weeks if he was uncircumcised. I mean, I assumed that's what it was, I just wasn't SURE.
I kind of love watching him masturbate. Much more satisfying to watch him pull the head back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? That's so weird... I'm Dutch and I've never seen a circumcised penis up close. It's just not done here, really, except maybe in some religions...
My SO I think had pretty tight foreskin when he hit puberty. Doctor told him to just 'train' it (pull it back to stretch it). Worked fine, it's normal now (and I can't imagine that being a bad thing to have to do as a guy :P)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also Canadian and uncircumcised - I've never mentioned it and never had a complaint, but one time I found out that a girl I'd been sleeping with had made her first post on Tumblr about hating uncircumcised dicks (about a year before we met). Sometimes I wonder if I changed her mind or if she just didn't know wtf she was talking about.
Either way, I got one more BJ then ghosted
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only guys i know who are cut had phimosis
catby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Canadian and where i live its uncommon for dudes to be circumcised. I've never had a partner that was cut, so It doesn't bother me in the slightest. If a chick can't deal with your natural body, nope the fuck outta there i say.
Most women I know haven't dealt with one either. I've only ever encountered 2 or 3 in sexual partners. Which sucks because then women have no idea what to do with the foreskin when it comes to the sexy fun times.
I love that my fiance is uncut cause it makes hand motions so much easier.
maybe you should have a retrospective circumcision. lol do they really need bracing? do they not just accept it and carry on doing whatever they are doing to it? its uncommon to be circumcised in straya
rannapup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canadian woman, 24, with an extensive history. Majority of my male partners have been cut, but a foreskin isn't a unicorn. About a 70/30 split I'd say.
I met a guy in college who though some way or another I found out he was uncircumcised. Some time later we were going to go out on a date and I called my friend from/in England to ask her if there was anything I had to do differently if I wound up sleeping with him because I had never seen an uncircumcised penis before... Eventually we did, the build up of it being that much different was more exciting then the actual difference. Sex was good, just not any different from my perspective.
I am in the same boat but have never had a single compliant. Most girls were more used to uncircumcised to be honest. What part of Canada are you from?
Ah the prairies, the kind of explains it. I have been in western Canada my whole life and find it is more the norm here as it is less religious and more liberal.
American here- all of my biology and health textbooks in school showed only circumcised penises, and nobody in sex ed ever told us how to deal with uncut ones, especially when it comes to putting on condoms. Plus the majority of porn coming out of CA means we're mostly seeing American dicks. So the first time you encounter an uncut one in the wild, it is a little surprising- I knew they existed, but I had no idea how to handle it, which was pretty intimidating. Getting a little warning beforehand, and being patient while explaining what to do would have been a huge help and could have avoided a lot of awkwardness for everyone involved.
Or in America. I love how we are super against "female genital mutilation" in other countries but cutting of part of a males penis is fine because it's normal and we've done it since forever right?
I mean, comparing circumsision to female genital mutilation, which generally refers to removing the clitoris, is unfair to say the least. To start with, female genital mutilation is rooted in the idea of controlling female sexuality and is clearly shown to negatively impact female health with no known health benefits.
Circumsision on the other hand has no major health detriments, and no major health orginization calls for it's ban, while WHO advocates it as a comprehensive HIv prevention step. On top of that, it has minor health benefits and is a legitimate treatment option for severe cases of things like phimosis or UTIs.
Long story short this is a complete bullshit comparison and people need to stop trying it.
Most of this is simply not true. Even if there are very very minor health benefits of which many studies flip flop on, the basic idea of circumcision is to reduce sexual sensitivity. I don't know about you but that sounds like trying to control sexuality to me. John Kellog also advocated it for health and helping reduce male desires. http://www.circumstitions.com/Kellogg.html
The case for phimosis is silly, there are better medical procedures out there now than just chopping of a bunch of skin. As for UTI the comparison for percentage of males that get them that are uncircumcised is such a small amount it's ridiculous to say we should mutilate, and let's be clear we are mutilating an natural part of the body, to lower that risk for an easily treatable condition. The only real possible reason would be the reduction in transmission in HIV and other STDS, I mean a 60% reduction is a lot you got me there. We should cut it off for that, I can't think of any other method that would easier and be as or more effective than that. *cou https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/docs/condoms_and_stds.pdfhttp://www.aidschicago.org/resources/legacy/condoms/ltoyw_fact.pdf gh*
But hey the WHO recommends it so who are we to go against them.
KBD20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also http://i.imgur.com/VRtkrO4.jpg
Looks like the female american version was almost nothing by comparison - which is still no reason for it to have been legal.
A quick note you misunderstood. I'm not saying you should circumcise someone to lower the risk of a UTI or phimosis, I'm saying it's a common treatment for severe cases of those things. If someone already has a severe UTI or phimosis and other techniques are proving ineffective, circumcision can be a quick and relatively low impact way to cure them.
The WHO, CDC, and American Academy of Pediatrics all recognize health benefits to circumcision, do not be flippant and act like this is an open and shut issue. It's not. The fact you use an emotionally loaded word like "mutilate" repeatedly just goes to show the intactivist position is based on emotion, not logic or science.
Also, in almost all double blind studies on sensitivity circumcised men report no perceptible loss of feeling.
There are small benefits, in exchange for very small risk of complication. It's a delicate issue and should always be up to the parent.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say i'm not against circumcision, nor cutting off the clitoris if that's what the adult person's decides to do to themselves. Getting part of themselves lopped off if they so choose is a delicate decision since there are both sides of the issues to consider. /u/Nyaaflame thought the comparison of the two issues was bad but man you are comparing a persons right to change their body for very little medical benefit to a parent choosing to make their kid get vaccinated, which has a lot of medical benefits, getting an education, and eating vegetables. wow. I think I'm going to get a tattoo put on my kid, only permanent for their life unless they want to pay a lot of money to try and remove it, lolz.
r2u2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry you're so insecure about your penis.
Organizations that bill for this service promote it. Amazing. Most of the world's physicians think it's ridiculous.
The HIV study was cut short, no pun intended, because it was of poor quality and run unethically.
A slight reduction in UTIs, which are easily treated with antibiotics, doesn't outweigh the significantly increased risk of comppications due to the procedure nor is it ethical to make such a choice without consent.
I'm not the one that's insecure mate, but nice projecting. There is nothing in my post that is factually incorrect, the WHO, CDC, and APA all claim medical benefit that outweigh it's risk. Sorry that fact bothers you. It's you people that freak out over this that are clearly the insecure ones, which is why you resort to ridiculous emotional pleas and claims of legit medical organizations being shills.
But believe what you want, whatever helps you sleep, LOL.
r2u2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The WHO, CDC, and APA all claim medical benefit that outweigh it's risk.
It's just not based in science. Their position is discredited and not accepted by the world's leading medical organizations.
They base it on a flawed study that has been lambasted in the medical community. The study was ended abruptly and has terrible controls. The small possible medical benefits do not outweigh the medical ethics of the practice and the risks of complication are prevalent.
Penile cancer is rarer than male breast cancer. The AAP Task Force found one credible study showed that there would need to be 322,000 infant circumcisions, and 644 circumcision complications, to prevent one case of penile cancer.
Here is the AAP being brought to task on the issue in the medical journal Pediatrics.
The AAP's review of literature stopped at 2010, leaving out the most important scientific piece of work ever conducted on the sexual impact of circumcision (indeed, one of the only ones ever conducted) -- a study of 5,000 couples by Frisch et al, published in late 2011, that found circumcised men and their partners were 3.5X more likely to have frequent orgasm problems, in addition to less sexual satisfaction and increased problems with vaginal pain.
The KNMG, representing 40,000 Dutch doctors, cited this study in a recent symposium on circumcision, following their 2010 report condemning infant circumcision as being risky and without medical benefit.
Moreover, a study was just published by Rodriguez et al that found a sample of men in Puerto Rico were more likely to have HIV if circumcised. This is in line with a 2009 USAID study that found, in 10 of 18 countries with data available, circumcised men were more likely to have HIV. This is important given several flawed studies in AFRICA were the primary basis for the AAP's updated stance more heavily favoring circumcision. No population level data has ever shown an HIV reduction from circumcision.
Taylor's studies discussing the "Ridged Band" of nerve endings are never mentioned, and Sorrells' findings on penile sensitivity are glossed over. The AAP admits that circumcision has been found to reduce masturbatory pleasure, but omits this from any of their conclusions.
Science, does not support infant circumcision. The AAP supports it because they are biased and defending their members, who are responsible for millions of infant circumcisions over the past 100 years.
Canadian Paediatric Society (CPS) (2015)
The CPS does not recommend the routine circumcision of every newborn male. It further states that when โmedical necessity is not established, โฆinterventions should be deferred until the individual concerned is able to make their own choices.โ
Royal Dutch Medical Association (KNMG) (2010)
The KNMG states โthere is no convincing evidence that circumcision is useful or necessary in terms of prevention or hygiene.โ It regards the non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors as a violation of physical integrity, and argues that boys should be able to make their own decisions about circumcision.
The Royal Australasian College of Physicians (RACP) (2010)
The RACP states that routine infant circumcision is not warranted in Australia and New Zealand. It argues that, since cutting children involves physical risks which are undertaken for the sake of merely psychosocial benefits or debatable medical benefits, it is ethically questionable whether parents ought to be able to make such a decision for a child.
British Medical Association (BMA) (2006)
The BMA considers that the evidence concerning health benefits from non-therapeutic circumcision is insufficient as a justification for doing it. It suggests that it is โunethical and inappropriateโ to circumcise for therapeutic reasons when effective and less invasive alternatives exist.
Expert statement from the German Association of Pediatricians (BVKJ) (2012)
In testimony to the German legislature, the President of the BVKJ has stated, โthere is no reason from a medical point of view to remove an intact foreskin from โฆboys unable to give their consent.โ It asserts that boys have the same right to physical integrity as girls in German law, and, regarding non-therapeutic circumcision, that parentsโ right to freedom of religion ends at the point where the childโs right to physical integrity is infringed upon.
Also female circumcision can make sex extremely painful, while make circumcision does not. And generally for women it is performed at puberty, when they remember it (which you don't at a few days old), causing trauma.
The majority of American men are circumcised. I know some American women who are repulsed by an uncut cock. I think they're sexy, but I also think it's because they're rare here.
It's probably because of the religious history of the US. All the oppressed weirdos from the Old World moved to the New World. Extreme things suddenly seem normal when you live on a continent filled with extremes.
kkira133 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:33:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty rare here in australia too, but not unheard of.
Even before the NHS was set up, it was no way near standard. Aside from for religious reasons, I believe it was only done for medical reasons, and not as a matter of course.
It was common in British high society in the late 19th and early 20th century. For one, the British Royal family practices circumcision (they allege they are descended from the Biblical David). However rumor has it Princess Di refused to have her sons circumcised, to the Queen's chagrin. Secondly, it was believed circumcision could inhibit masturbation, which is why it initially became popular in America too. The British inclination to circumcise faded away, while the American inclination did not (although presently in the US it's estimated the majority of newborn boys are not circumcised - a trend largely driven by demographic change, i.e. greater number of immigrant families)
Fair enough, but the circumcision craze began in force probably around 1880, which is why even American men whose ancestors are Italian or Irish (places that did not and still do not circumcise) are most likely to be circumcised. It's interesting to note that the rising accessibility to hospital births during this period greatly enabled the new fad - you're not going to be circumcised if you were born in a log cabin! WWII was another time period that circumcision rates rose, as GIs underwent the procedure (it was encouraged by the military).
I'll also admit that in contemporary times, the practice is highly regional, being more prevalent in the Midwest and Northeast than the West and South.
Why WOULD you voluntarily and unnecessarily chop a bit off your penis? Even if it was free?
Dr_McKay ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:56:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It started off as a supposed cure for masturbation, then it turned into a cycle of becoming the norm, so people don't want to be different. Both Men and Women will laugh at uncut dicks and call them "ugly" etc.
Parents will justify it with "he won't remember the agonising pain" or "Women will prefer it". That study only performed in Africa by the US Government claiming it reduces the risk of STDs gets cited a lot, yet these same people obviously wouldn't have unprotected sex just because the guy is circumcised, and will shave all of their pubic hair, which is supposed to increase the risk of STDs by around the same amount circumcision is supposed to prevent it.
Also - circumcision to reduce the risk of contracting HIV needs context. AIDS is epidemic in Africa, where in many countries the percentage of adults with the disease is in the double digits. I compare circumcision to mosquito netting - obviously sleeping under a net decreases the risk of contracting malaria. Bur for people living in Europe and North America, malaria is not a problem. Saying Americans should practice circumcision to reduce the risk of HIV is like saying Americans should sleep under mosquito nets to reduce the risk of contracting malaria.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 02:36:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They really aren't fine. You can't just chop off a functional part, containing tens of thousands of nerves, and be ok. They just don't know any different.
Aww man now you just reminded me of the time I saw a puppy at Walmart with like the most awful looking freshly cropped ears. The lady who had him was petting his head and he would flinch every time she got close to the ears... She was also trying to feed him grapes.
Seems to be much more common in America that most European countries, it's just something that a lot of parents had done. I'm circumcised, but there wasn't any reason for it. If I have a son I don't plan on mutilating his genitals, it just doesn't make any sense.
Seems to be much more common in America that most European countries
Correct. Just 2% of men in the Netherlands are circumcised. Those 2% are mostly men with an immigrant background. Circumcision among the native population is almost non-existent and usually only carried out if it is a medical necessity.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was just the normal thing to do for a while I guess, doctors would ask parents of newborns and they just would agree, without even considering the reasons not to do it which in my opinion, greatly outweigh the reasons to get circumcised.
Interestingly, US cultural influence is so strong that people here still draw dicks as circumcised, yet circumcision hasn't been standard here for decades.
Isoldael ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:42:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that because people generally draw erect penises, and you don't really see the foreskin then anyway?
I don't think that is from US influence, look back through the history of willies and they are almost always drawn with the foreskin back. It's easier.
zincH20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You ever see those inflatable bouncy guys at used car lots ?
I'm Indian and uncircumcised. Had never pulled back my foreskin till I was like 15. When I first started watching porn (which was before that), I was terrifyingly surprised because the dicks I saw looked nothing like my own!
Was too scared to ask anyone. I didn't even know foreskin could be pulled back! Mine was so stiff..researching on the internet and a lot of lube helped. Was so relieved!
it really is shocking how a first world country allows male genital mutilation, its been proven unhelpful and unhealthy but people still think its ok to do in every situation... it baffels me
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a period in North America where circumcision was a standard procedure for boys at birth. Basically a belief it would be more hygienic. So that's why we have so many adult men that are circumcised. The practice is no longer in effect, but it will take few decades until circumcised vs. uncircumcised numbers shift.
It's just general knowledge here. British men are generally uncut. Also I'm a woman and have female and gay friends and none of us has ever seen a circumcised penis. (Small sample size of course, but friends of friends have never seen one etc...)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US almost everyone is cause Kellogg (yes, the cereal guy- dude was a nut job, but I love cereals) was afraid of masturbation. He convinced everyone that circumcision was right and would prevent masturbation.
Adam Ruins Everything did a wonderful episode on Sex Ed.
It's am American thing that's been around for a while. I'm really not sure but I think it might have have something to do with old health suggestions. It's started to fall out of practice now though in the US.
Stateside, circumcision is only known to be done for religious or medical reasons; certain regions do it a lot more than others. I was uncircumcised at first, but in infancy I developed a life-threatening infection down there, and when it was treated, apparently my parents were told circumcision would put a permanent end to the problem. I kind of wish I still had my foreskin, but honestly, I'll always take not being dead over a bit of flesh I don't even remember.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm glad to know my son isn't the only one that has a "is it, or isn't it?" circumcised penis. I honestly didn't know other men out there had half way circumcised ...
L_SeeD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But first we need to introduce our lady (or man) companions to New Cock, which we introduce promising it would be better. When it doesn't, we reintroduce Cock as Cock Classic
gregpxc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:58:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What would you call it then? The word circumcised describes the end result so naturally when having a discussion about it you would say you are either circumcised or uncircumcised. Just like something is either broken or not broken in a context where you describing something that's broken. You don't normally describe something as not broken, though, unless specifically discussing it.
i feel like i have to walk on eggshells with this subject on reddit since its an american male dominated forum, but if we were to use breast augmentation as an example, we wouldnt call natural breasts unaugmented, we call them natural. 99% of the time circumcision is a completely unnecessary cosmetic surgery, one which has obvious negative affects and which the patient didnt even have a say in, which seems insane when you think of that way. yet we just accept it as the norm here in america.. for i dont even know what reason, honestly. tradition i guess. "his father was"
to me, it feels like putting UN at the beginning sort of implies that its "normal" to circumcise for no reason other than aesthetics, so the exceptions to the norm are UNcircumcised. it feels like the implication is that natural is not normal, while unnatural, or circumcised, is. in regards to that, its all backwards in america. it makes kids feel like theirs isnt "normal" because it wasnt cosmetically altered like all their friends. something as simple as calling one natural and the other circumcised would make a huge difference imo, because i mean really thats what they are.
the term uncircumcised just seems to have this implication tied to it that makes people (mainly kids) feel different or strange/not normal at a young age, for nothing other than having a natural functioning body part.
edit - i see "intact" was mentioned a few times, thats a good one too. the main point im trying to make (im shit with expressing ideas into words and im sorry) is that to use UN as the opposite to the "norm", carries an implication, that terms like intact or natural do not carry
The implication was that one was changed to make it better. Maybe I wasn't clear enough on that because I thought I would have had more downvotes by now.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bit of an cock expert are you?
Wrylix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the feeling that was what you meant - my point is that one isn't better than the other.
Though, if you restore your foreskin, then you are "uncircumcised".
Kered13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not how language works. It's very common that we use a word to describe an uncommon or unnatural state of affairs, and an "un-", "non-", "in-", or similar word to describe the natural or common state. This is because in the common state there is usually no need to specify at all, so there is no special word for it. The "un-" word is only used in explicit contrast to the unusual state.
macboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say because the "circumsized" adjective comes from having acted upon it? So we came up with the word for a dick that had been surgically altered. Then that got popular in the states so we had to ask people if they were or weren't. Though now that I think about it un- to me sounds like it could be replaced with de-, and a decircumsized dick just sounds super weird.
de would normally refer to something that's been undone.
"degassing" refers to letting the gas out of something, "deconstruct" refers to taking something apart after it's been constructed.
Both of these require the original action of "gassing" or "constructing" to take place before the "de" words can.
macboot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, that's what I meant. Decircumsizing something would be really weird...
[deleted] ยท 180 points ยท Posted at 00:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember, in Europe, we try to avoid genital mutilation in general (both boys and girls). You're not weird for your parents respecting your integrity enough to leave your dick alone.
The worst part is that they can't mutilate a normal body part, like a finger or something, they absolutely have to go for the sexual organs like it's some sort of obsession.
uniptf ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:56:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, in America we do plenty of orthodontic mutilation too.
nolo_me ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:27:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weirdest thing to me is the obsession with teeth being dazzling fluorescent white. I mean, you folks know that nothing natural is supposed to be that colour, right?
Super white teeth is really off putting. I find it distracting when someones teeth are really white and perfectly straight. It looks so unnatural it really sticks out to me.
pochemy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I could go back in time I'd tell my mom to get me circumcised, because being uncircumcised has many drawbacks in the US. The grass isn't always greener on the other side I guess.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:35:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What drawbacks may I ask? I'm a girl so I don't really understand completely. I've been with both circumcised and uncircumcised guys and I'm not bothered by either as long as it's kept clean.
With the circumcised ones I do feel bad because they've undergone genital mutilation.
_fups_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:21:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although I wish I was circumcised the fact is if I really wanted to I could still get it done as an adult. The fact I haven't might say something. I think it's a tough decision for any parent though, because it is genital mutilation if we're being honest. I think having parents who care enough to think about it critically is way more important than the decision to cut or not to cut.
r2u2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:57:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have issues then. Severe issues. Because unless yours was botched, there's no reason to be mad about it. Your dick works just like it would regardless.
I get the gesture, but that's such a weird passive aggressive way of almost shaming people who are cut. Like, I didn't choose to be circumcised, so why say my dick or any other cut guys was mutilated when it works perfectly fine?
I think the shaming is directed more at the parents than the person who was cut - like you said, you didn't choose to do it. If anyone actually blames the baby they're insane
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:25:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was mutilated because it was mutilated. That's not to say anything bad about cut men, it wasn't their choice (or, if it was their choice, then it wouldn't have been mutilation, just cosmetic surgery). I didn't say it didn't work the way it should. However, that's besides the point. It is cosmetic surgery, for no medical reason, on a child too young to consent.
It's the parents and medical professionals who should feel shame. Glad you can still enjoy it, but it really isn't fine. It's not just "extra skin", there is no extra. It removes a functional nerve rich part. It would be about half of the skin gone in full grown adults dick.
Maybe for the next 20 years or so anyways. With Europe's declining birthrate and the massive influx of immigrants/migrants with their spectacular birthrates, your statement is less than accurate. 2025 Brussels is a majority Muslim city---think on that before touting the so-called enlightenment of European morality.
Remember, in Europe, we try to avoid genital mutilation in general (both boys and girls).
Not true, male genital mutilation is legal almost everywhere in Europe. (Edit: unlike the female variant)
Denmark and Norway were thinking about making it illegal but I don't think they went through.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:15:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but culturally we don't do it. The US does because idiots convinced everyone it stopped masturbation. Literally; the only reason that it started was to cut masturbation. All it really did was make more guys depend on moisturiser for a satisfying wank.
Just like the rate is decreasing in merica due to "latino" immigration, the rate in europe will increase due to muslim immigration
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rate in Australia is apparently increasing due to immigrants and the children of immigrants.
15%...still way too high...and the procedure and whole idea of cutting someone else's dick, especially a baby's dick, makes me want to wring the necks of whoever would inflict that torture on an infant.
makes me want to wring the necks of whoever would inflict that torture on an infant
And yet neither you nor anyone else does it.
I've never read about a crime motivated by circumcision. If that happened you can bet your ass doctors would think twice before doing it.
nugymmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard of a crime motivated by circumcision either.
But never worry about that. As more and more people realise that this disgusting practice is only done for the benefit of certain doctors and those who sell foreskins for skin cell cultures and skin testing purposes, and realise what is actually being done to babies, they might suddenly decide that getting rid of these people is worth it, even if they only manage to save one baby.
Dr_McKay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time it gains momentum, people point out the Jewish faith and politicians quickly back down for fear of appearing anti-semetic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never said it wasn't legal, just that most people would never do it (except some religious minorities).
[deleted] ยท -30 points ยท Posted at 02:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shut up. It's not genital mutilation snowflake.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It literally is though, especially since it's done to babies who can't say no.
FloppY_ ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 00:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever want to flip the situation upside down, come to Europe. Here it is the opposite.
I think the U.S.North America is the only first world countries where genital mutilation of boys is the norm. Unless you count Israel as a first world country.
Don't for a second think I'm a proponent of cutting them off, as it's just a religious thing masked in a pseudo-science health reasoning. I'm a circumcised male who will not be subjecting that to his kids.
Don't for a second think I'm a proponent of cutting them off, as it's just a religious thing masked in a pseudo-science health reasoning.
I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other, but in what possible universe are the reduced chances of contracting an STI or getting a UTI "pseudo-science"? I'll even accept that you might (though I'd disagree) think the science conducted was flawed, or that it is not conclusive enough, or clinically significant enough to warrant what you see as the costs. But it's not "pseudo-science", it's science-science.
Have a good read of the extract of the paper you linked. Specifically, the percentage of the study focusing on what we're talking about:
male circumcision (5%)
That's five percent of the whole study. The other 95% does not focus on that. And the findings:
Male circumcision protected against viral STIs and possibly trichomoniasis.
This sounds rather conclusive, until you read the recommendations, again from the abstract.
Future STI prevention efforts should focus on enhancing adherence within interventions, integrating new technologies, ensuring sustainable behavior change, and conducting implementation research.
You would do better to look for specific research around circumcision.
Saying that, I could be wrong - I looked into this three or four years ago and had read enough to be convinced it was more risk than reward, which is the key here, in much the same way as having an appendectomy merely because of a chance of appendicitis.
I wasn't really arguing for the merits of circumcision, I was arguing for the proposed merits of circumcision not being based on pseudo-science. The specific study may not be a clear argument that circumcision is great and everyone should do it, but it is actually science, in about as legitimate a form as exists.
Pseudo-science is shit like homeopathy, chiropractic, "biofields". Things that sound sorta science-y but aren't based on the actual scientific method. You may not agree with the people who use the science available as reasoning, but there is science available about circumcision, and there are arguments to be made for it based on that. It is not pseudo-science.
That said, it's a systematic review, so it's fairly reasonable for it to be broad in scope. It does however refer to 4 randomized controlled trials specifically about circumcision, some of whose outcomes it lists thus:
Male circumcision appears to provide significant protection against viral STIs. In addition to the 50%โ60% reduction in HIV acquisition consistently demonstrated (108โ110), HPV prevalence was reduced by about one-third (61, 62), and HSV-2 incidence was reduced by 28% (62) in the trials that assessed these endpoints.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow...so a group of men suffering from cognitive dissonance want to desperately believe that their mutilations were rightful and that they wanted to find justification for what happened to them. So they concoct up all these largely irrelevant studies to make themselves feel better about their own mutilation - and then condemn millions of future baby boys to this disgusting and treacherous act of brutality.
There is something that helps reduce STDs in men. It's called a condom.
At last in my province. It's not offered at the hospital after birth, you have to go for private and pay for it. So the percentage of procedure is very, very low.
Rpizza ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:24:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am americans but my parents r European and I lived there as a kid. My husband and my son are as god made them. No genital mutilation for my American born son
It is becoming less common in the US. Although, I did have to fight with the hospital when they charged me for one for my son who didn't have it done.
Rpizza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:33:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god more Americans are getting it done. I wrestled for a minute with the thought that my son would be different. But that was a fleeting thought. That concept wasn't stronger then the concept of chopping skin off for vanity reasons.
I feel weird too, not because I'm uncircumcised (I'm not) but because apparently I was smart enough to deduce that since my penis didn't look like it had a hoodie on, that meant I was circumcised.
I am as well and lemme tell you, younger teenage me was very confused as to why his dick looked different from the people in porn and if I would "grow into" my dick looking like that
I'm a female in the US and born in 1981. Most parents nowadays regardless of religion are leaving their sons intact. When I was a kid, they weren't. Some hospitals would automatically circumcise because it was so normalized. The majority of women I'm friends with have never even seen an uncircumcised male IRL, and guy friends from Europe and Africa who are uncircumcised have attempted hook ups with some American girls who simply won't go near it. The myth that uncircumcised penises are dirty and smelly still persists even in sitcoms and movies.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come to Argentina and you'll feel like in home hahaha. I can't believe there are so many circumcised people in the US. Here it's a really uncommon thing.
I have a failed circumsion. The doctor removed too little foreskin, so I pretty much have a turtleneck for my penis. I feel like I have the best of both worlds. The skin is warm, stylish and tactical, but the retractable top means I'm streamlined when it's time for action.
Circumcision rates are falling drastically every year in the US. The rest of the world thinks we're idiots for still doing this barbaric nonsense - routinely- to baby boys.
Finie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why you don't fap? Get lightheaded?
NoFapMat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:59:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty funny :D
Nah, I don't fap because I actually lost all interest in women, and prefered pornography and masturbation to real sex. I couldn't explain it.
I tried going 100 days without masturbating or porn, and started enjoying sex again. Basically, masturbating and porn desensitized me to naked women, and I wasn't getting turned on.
So for me personally, not masturbating gives me a healthy sex life.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's called an average - but even if the average means most are roughly the same length it also means there are others that are not the same length. The human body has variations with almost every part bro.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dason37 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever...watched porn? There is certainly an average size, but to get that average, there's a lot close to the average and some a lot smaller, and some a lot larger. If the Batting average for the national league is .250, does that mean everyone's batting between .245 and .255 and there's no possible way anyone could hit .300? I don't know what you're trying to say, but it ain't a fact.
Last time I checked the average erect penis length was 5.5 inches (not sure what it is now), that means there's a lot that are between 5-6 inches and the rest are outside of that range, but even the ones within that range will vary and they are not all the same length.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"True facts: most men erect to the same size. It doesn't matter the size of your flacid peen"
Same is same. If you're speaking in less than accurate terms don't say they're the same, say something like they're roughly the same, something that implies a loose similarity and not an exact similarity. An easy example is colours - if I say something is sky blue I mean sky blue, if I say it is blue I could mean any number of different shades of blue.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you've just got the problem where you've stated an average - the point of which is unclear. Yes, there is an average length for the erect penis. Most men have an average length while the other men do not. Your statement completely ignores the men who are outside of the average range - they exist and they are a large number.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happens if one of those guys in the locker room has a 10 inch and another has a 2 inch? And all the guys are immature enough to think that it's an indication of they're overall worth?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dason37 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time you try to prove your point with "they're all the same, but some are different" what are you even trying to prove? No mammals can fly, except those that can. It's a fact.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:13:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I, uh... I didn't really think through the practicalities here. I wasn't really expecting a follow-up question.
krone6 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:41:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I read it can make the penis smaller as there's less callous material built up since the foreskin is covering it. Note I am not talking overall size but the size of the penis itself and is only what I've read.
That's interesting. My first partner was pretty big, and it took me a few months to even realize he was uncircumcised since he was my first. One day I just asked him straight out because I wasn't sure.
It reminds of these things we used to play with when we were kids. They were like Chinese finger locks, but filled with water. I used to love playing with those ridiculous things.
Why the hell is it so common in US? Here in Finland, and I bet the most of Europe the only reason would be medical, i.e. If the foreskin is so tight it won't move back. How is this any different from vagina mutilation that is being tried to stop all over the world?
I thought the PATIENT yelled that at you, I was confused...
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:37:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was a birth mark for way too long
SerCiddy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:21:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that brown ring... I thought it was darker below the ring because i masturbated so much, that ring was just the line where my hand ended while holding it. I was like 17 before I realized I was circumcised.
oh there was no reasoning involved. i was just so naive, a farmers tan was the only thing i could relate it to.
rls13 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to say that before this comment I didn't know if my husband was circumcised or not. He didn't either. He's a grower not a shower. The brown ring makes it evident that he is circumcised. Thank you
Literally how is this so difficult. Look at his penis, can you actually see the glans and head when he's not erect or doing anything with it. If yes, then he's circumcised. It's not a five page multiple choice test or something.
If there is skin hanging around the fore front of his penis, that means he has a foreskin. I can imagine if you hadn't yet seen your partner's penis flaccid not knowing, but flaccid penis is easy.
rls13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:37:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is difficult for someone who grew up sheltered and has little experience with penises in real life. You don't have to be so condescending.
Sorry, this was just at least the 20th comment I'd seen like this and really its more your husband not knowing either that I'm confused by. I just don't get how so many people act like this is such a revelation for them when the way to know is simply to look down.
rls13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't know because his parents never discuss things like that and did a horrible job of teaching their children anything that would enable them to be independent. And it's not like he's checking out other dude's dicks and asking if they are circumcised.
uhh, whoa. I'm in my twenties and I never noticed the 'ring' until you mentioned it just now.
In my defence, there's not really a scar. It's just a colour change
Spyger9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm convinced now that my circumcision was very conservative. There's no ring, the color change is gradual and natural looking, half of the head is covered when flaccid and with a little tugging there's enough foreskin to cover it even when erect.
I've seen a few that have no extra skin when erect, and some of those look like too much meat in too small a sleeve. They make me wince, but is that what normal circumcision is supposed to look like?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Spyger9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I checked out "restoring" a couple years ago; very intriguing. I'd be all over that if my erect dick looked like a drawn bow.
As I said though, I have plenty despite being circumcised. People argue that glans keratinization is a big deal, but there's no conclusive evidence on that. It's all about the O anyway, and that's internal.
Trevski ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I concur. It just looks like a natural seam between the shaft and the "neck"
i just had to whip mine out and look for this. HOLY SHIT ITS BEEN THERE ALL MY LIFE IVE SEEN IT SO MANY TIMES AND JUST NEVER KNEW WHAT IT WAS
Scipio11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhhhhh. I thought mine was just fucked up, dicks are weird.
Myrshall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I'm circumcised, and I of course know what that is, but I never once realized that that brown ring is a scar. I never even thought about it at all.
No one tells us what it is! For many years I thought it was because I was half black half white for some reason. Then around 16 or so I finally put the two together. To this day I'm not sure how I figured out that it was a circumcision scar, just clicked one day.
citoloco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit, I didn't know that ring was a scar. Never exactly came up in conversation I guess, heh.
markko79 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:10:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it depends on a couple of things. First, aftercare by the parent using Vaseline gauze and good cleaning after a dirty diaper is most important. Second, if it's a tight cut with little loose skin, an infantile erection prior to healing that opens the wound can make for a wider scar.
CSMom74 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen my share of circumcised penises in person, up close. Never saw a scar. Or a brown ring.
Not to mention the three circumcised sons I have.
Raknith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because you've never noticed the scar doesn't mean circumcision doesn't leave a scar. If you want I'll send you a picture of mine right now.
CSMom74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go for it. I'm wondering if the doc messed up. Surely I'd have noticed a scar on one of them.
Raknith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably just don't recognize what you're seeing as a scar. Before I knew it was a scar I thought it was just a normal color change.
It's impossible for there not to be a scar. A lot of people think it's removing extra skin, but there is no extra skin. During circumcision a lot of skin is removed. In an adult it would be about 15 square inches.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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wofo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most men in America are circumcised, and as far as many people know, it is a standard practice with many health benefits. Even for someone who suspects it's unnecessary, cirumcision is probably they only thing they are familiar with and they know it works fine and is normal (to them). For them, going without is the new thing with potential risks, so they decide that they want their kids to resemble the only normal they have ever seen.
I really don't get how people think there are health benefits. It's easier to clean? Brushing your teeth is harder.
CSMom74 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, whatever. I'm not here to debat circ v uncirc. My 23-year-old and 17-year-old don't seem to mind or be traumatized. I'll post back in 15 years and let you know how my 3-year-old feels about it. Point is, never seen a scar.
Also, I had the 17-year-old's tonsils removed, along with his adenoids when he was almost 3. How is that okay, and the other isn't?
I can confirm that my most sensitive is where guys are cut
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember being really young and not fully knowing what it was and watching that scene in Robinhood Men in Tights where Mel Brooks's character uses a miniature guillotine to cut off the tip of a carrot to demonstrate the new circumcision "fad". So that certainly fueled the confusion.
Widespread religious views made lots of people not want to clean their children's penises. This easily led them to believe rumors that it was cleaner and healthier to circumcise your child; it was basically a widely accepted "fact" in the US. I believe it started in the very late 1880-90s, and gained a lot of traction in the 1910s with syphillus, and solidified with the AIDs epidemic, circumcision was rumored to prevent/reduce the chance of AIDs infection, as well as many other infections.
Of course that is all bullocks.
Anyway, now we are here.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ZoDeFoo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:58:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or rather, eating breakfast cereal rathwr than steak and eggs would weaken men's sex drive .
Not a doctor but I believe it's because the foreskin kind of traps fluids and thus the virus, giving it a longer window of opportunity to make its way into your body.
Jijster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok that makes some sense. But... if we're talking unprotected sex with an HIV positive person... I'm assuming it's like a 1-2% difference or something like that
This study showed that it cut the risk by about half.
nugymmer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit study. In America there is a much higher rate of HIV than in Europe...yet in Europe the circumcision rate is a mere tiny fraction of what it is in the USA.
The study is a bunch of sophisticated bullshit that only really applies in 3rd world conditions, and even then it's a fucking crapshoot.
This "bullshit" study is from Baltimore, which last I checked is in the United States. I'm not saying Americans should circumcise their kids but peoples' ability to reject legit science that they just don't like really grinds my gears.
FYI - Europeans receive better safe sex education at school than Americans do, and as a result are much less likely to contract STIs writ large. When you're wearing a condom it doesn't matter whether or not you're circumcised.
...sex among adolescents (in Western Euorpe) is generally accepted, with little to no societal pressure to remain abstinent. But with that acceptance comes strong cultural norms that emphasize that young people who are having sex should take actions to protect themselves and their partners from pregnancy and STIs. In keeping with this view, government-supported schools in many Western European countries provideโand even requireโcomprehensive sexuality education and offer easy access to reproductive health services. (source)
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the consensus is that better sexual health education is far more important than circumcision in promoting sexual health.
Nobody should have any right to cut an infant's genitals unless there is an urgent medical justification. People already go to prison for cutting girl's vulvas, so why should cutting boy's penises for inappropriate reasons not also be punishable by law?
This is not an argument about whether circumcision should be promoted. The poster said that the idea of circumcision preventing aids was some wacky idea in the 80s. I replied that it is not a wacky theory, it is legit science, but that it is much easier to just wear a condom. I don't know why anyone who points out one single benefit to circumcision as a means of correcting a non-factual statement is somehow waging a pro-circumcision campaign. Calm the eff down.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:01 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why anyone who points out one single benefit to circumcision as a means of correcting a non-factual statement is somehow waging a pro-circumcision campaign. Calm the eff down.
The problem with this assumption is that those who are making up all this crap are very influential people in respected positions of trust. So people trust them implicitly even though they are promoting flawed arguments.
This study was conducted by a CDC physician based on data compiled in Baltimore in the mid 90s. It also found that circumcision was associated with reduced HIV risk.
Edit: emphasis
nugymmer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh huh, so that's why Europe has a lower rate of HIV, yet they refuse to mutilate their infant son's private parts.
Nah. Circumcision started because it was designed to reduce masturbation or at least reduce sexual sensitivity...well, there you go. Then the "scientists" who wanted to justify why the most sensitive part of their dicks were removed, conducted "studies" to prove that their mutilation was not a mutilation.
Cognitive dissonance in all its glorious colors.
Oh, and that CDC physician probably has a mutilated penis...well, that would go a long way to understanding why he wanted to prove that his terrible loss was in fact beneficial...when it wasn't.
It's called Stockholm Syndrome...just under another name. That is all.
Isoldael ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:06:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree with you, I have to point out that correlation != causation. We could have lower HIV rates here due to many other factors, even if circumcision did lower the risk of contracting HIV.
That kind of broad dismissal is no way to debunk an argument. Europe and America are apples and oranges. Perhaps (!) Europe has lower HIV rates because their schools actually provide comprehensive sex ed! If people are using condoms when they have sex, it doesn't matter whether or not they're circumcised.
...sex among adolescents (in Western Euorpe) is generally accepted, with little to no societal pressure to remain abstinent. But with that acceptance comes strong cultural norms that emphasize that young people who are having sex should take actions to protect themselves and their partners from pregnancy and STIs. In keeping with this view, government-supported schools in many Western European countries provideโand even requireโcomprehensive sexuality education and offer easy access to reproductive health services. (source)
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it doesn't matter whether or not they are circumcised, that using a condon is the most effective measure at preventing or curbing STDs then all that illustrates is the stupidity of cutting an infant's genitals outside of immediate medical justification.
This is not an argument about whether or not circumcision is a good idea. The poster said that the idea it prevents aids was some wacky idea from the 80s. That is untrue and I corrected him/her saying that there is actually legit science to back that up. Pointing out a single benefit to circumcision does not equate to promoting or condoning it. Take the time to read what I wrote without letting your own emotions about the issue take over and you will see that I have never said circumcision is a good idea or something worth promoting.
The CDC... only medical orginisation in the west that still recommends circumcision. All other medical orginisations strongly advice against it.
Could it possibly be because circumcision is a billion dollar a year industry in the US? Nah, I'm sure that's just a coincidence. When has lobbying money ever influenced anybody?
You can oppose circumcision all you want -- you're not wrong -- but when you reject legitimate science because it doesn't fit with your own world view you seriously undermine the argument you're trying to make.
Schnort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The HIV transmission thing is legit, but obviously it's much easier to just wear a condom like a rational human being.
I did so because I had phimosis and sexual enjoyment is near zero if I keep my glans up, or it's painful when I retract it. I haven't done the PIV deed post-op yet, but hand parties feel fucking amazing, like I can orgasm in the middle and cum twice in 30 seconds before I'm spent.
I tried it... Once it shrunk back down, it shrunk tighter than before, plus I didn't like the funk it produced, plus more vigorous thrusts made it slip back down and would often bring the condom with it... I hated having to doubt myself when sex started feeling too good, not to mention it takes away from the spontaneity of a quickie... "Hold on, I gotta retract" doesn't sound sexy at all when she's all over you.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All there in it's vile and disgusting form...should be banned and people thrown into prison for it...if it were up to me I'd probably execute them - painfully.
So when I was growing up, I knew that circumcision was when they cut off a bit of the end of your weenie. I didn't know if I was or not (I am),and felt it would be awkward to ask.
It just so happened that the first time I ever saw an uncircumcisedโ donger was in sixth grade. A friend of mine turned around at the urinal and swung his business at me for a laugh, and it looked like he'd had the head of his doodle cut off. It was just under the foreskin, but back then I didn't know what that was.
So from that moment until I was like... fifteen? I assumed I was uncircumcised because I still had the end of my rainbow.
I'm cracking up! My own step-son thought the same thing! I was in shock...like, he's a smart guy and yet had no idea what circumcision involved. We argued about it for like, ten minutes until his older sister showed him a picture of a joke lipstick and he was like "oh, yeah...I guess that's what it looks like."
Slightly related story. When my fiance was an infant and was getting circumcised, they cut his dick head off. But if that isnt bad enough, when they put it back on, it was backwards. They fixed it as soon as they could and his dick is fully operational but still.
When I was young, that's what I thought it meant, and I thought I was uncircumcised. Now, I was probably high school age or younger, so I don't know how old the guy you knew was.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who also thought this, and therefore thought he was not circumcised. I offered to show him my penis to see what actual non-circumcision looks like, but called his mom to ask if he was circumcised instead. He was, to his surprise. I however, was not surprised.
This was me until I was 13 and reading one of my female friends Girlfirend/Dolly magazines and it showed a drawing comparing circumcised vs uncircumcised penis. I genuinely believed "circumcision is when you cut off the head of the penis". It wasn't until like a year later that we'd be taught the same thing in Health/PE.
I thought this until I was like 16, when I finally saw hardcore porn. I'm a dude, and also circumcised. I had only seen an uncircumcised cock once in my life and it was my friend when we were young and taking a piss. He was from a different country so I was like "oh man. That must be what circumcision is. They cut the head of his dick off in his country!!" He just hadn't pulled back the foreskin to pee so I thought the head was gone.
Father33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That made me wince.
ela6532 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female here: Just laughed WAAAAY too hard at the image of a penis with no head. It was mostly a fear-laugh I think. Picturing the worm from spongebob...
That's what I used to think, for some reason. I'm American, maybe obviously...
mmpb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Just the tip"
Jatrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's Seinfeld's fault. Elaine had that one line, "off with their heads". This was pre-internet, so I had to ask my mother if I was circumcised.
Gg101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought when I was younger. Follow my logic:
I knew circumcision was cutting something off the end of your penis. I also knew it was a Jewish thing, hearing plenty of references/jokes about someone's bris on TV. I can think of a Seinfeld episode and a South Park episode off the top of my head. It's always portrayed as a Jewish thing, and I'm not Jewish, so why would I be circumcised? And if I'm not, what's there to cut off but the head?
So yeah, I eventually figure it out, and I'm like "if most Americans are circumcised, why the fuck is it always portrayed as a Jewish thing?"
I didn't realize I was circumcised until my late teens.
I thought it was something specific to Jewish people. Since I'm not Jewish, I figured I wasn't circumcised. So, when references were made to "foreskin", I thought that referred to what I later figured out was the glans.
(FYI, I do in fact have a mushroom, not an anteater.)
wofo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"When you were in the showers, did yours look like most of the others there?" "...yes." "Then I am pretty sure you are circumcised."
That being said, I didn't actually look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a pediatric resident, I've been tasked with getting the consent forms done for the newborns whose parents want them to be circumcised. I had my prepared schpiel about what the minor risks and benefits are and how it is completely optional and we don't recommend for or against, etc. The attending on that rotation told me that I needed to start out by asking the parents to tell me in their own words "what is a circumcision". So many of them thought that the tip of the penis would be cut off, and yet they still wanted to get it!
Schnort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, morons keep describing it as 'cutting off the tip'
I shit you not, I work with a 55 year old man who thinks a circumcision is exactly the head cut off.
wofo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a hard misconception to correct in a real-world relationship. "Boss,you don't understand how wrong you are. It is very important to me that you look at these pictures of penises."
My girlfriend d I. College thought the foreskin came out of your urethra like an umbrella. She wasn't a virgin at all and claimed to have been with an uncircumcised man before that.
Sadesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking cringed at the thought of that even though I don't own a penis.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who thought this until his junior year of college
Genuinely thought this for many years when I was a kid/early teen. Course, the Mormons weren't exactly fond of sex Ed. Hell they let me think babies were made by kissing/swapping saliva until I was in 7th grade. Then i had gym.
Reminds of when I was bored and went on Best of Craigslist one day a long time ago... Seems a bit too fake to be true, but I remember laughing for a good while at this:
Holy shit that's what I thought it was in 9th grade... I had read it from some weird circumcision indian tribal practice and I thought that is what it meant...
Aaronp6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(gotta thank my dad for that one, the doctor asked him if he wanted me circumcised and he just said, "no, why do you need to touch his dick at all"
Isredel ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 00:24:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something similar with my mom. They tried to assure her that the baby doesn't feel it anyway and even showed her how it was done. She told them she was pretty sure that the screaming baby felt it.
[deleted] ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 00:55:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it hurts. After I was circumsized, I couldn't walk for a year.
Supposedly (learned in school) that if you circumcise a newborn, it wouldn't remember the pain and it also stops crying after a few minutes. And continue eating, peeing, laughing, sleeping. So the medical community sort of justified it. But it's suppose to be extremely painful and slow healing if you do it as an adolescent, so physicians recommend doing it at birth, not delay it, if the parents are certain they want to do it.
I don't know, it felt pretty painful the first few days after for me, but it's probably different for every case. Anyway, I'm from a country that doesn't normally circumsize babies, but do those newborns get anesthetized? I imagine the pain is magnitudes greater if they aren't.
Luckily my parents didn't believe in it. When my sister was pregnant I told her if it's a boy, don't have him circumcised.
Gravesh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, same. I hate being uncircumcised in the US. It's so unusual and embarrassing because of it. If I had good insurance I'd get it removed but c'est la vie, I guess.
EDIT: Downvoted? It's an opinion. Not everyone likes having their foreskin.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:57:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, your ding dong feels less without the foreskin. Also it feels weird. I have a fucking phimosis and wouldnt chop it off
Gravesh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:03:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I also have phimosis and would definitely chop it off. I couldn't care less about feeling. Just sounds like I can last longer!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:17:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a frenuloplasty
Gravesh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I want to be circumcised then that is my decision. It's just that, but I find it to be more aesthetically pleasing.
Rakonas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just sounds like I can last longer
Actually the opposite is true in practice. You have less control to put it off
Gravesh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"look like everyone else in the locker room" is such a disgusting rationalization of a barbaric practice and creates a psychological catch-22 trap that perpetuates things for a laughably stupid reason.
The advantage to doing it as a newborn is that the patient doesn't have to go under general anesthesia (a major risk factor of surgery).
Yeah because they can't really complain that the local anesthesia isn't doing jack shit, on account that they can't talk yet. That's a great justification.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they experts like my dentist? Because for some reason he always has to ram 2-3 syringes in there before I actually can't feel the drill anymore. Luckily I'm an adault and can complain when it doesn't work. Babbies aren't that lucky. (and just fyi I've been through quite a few dentists and he's by far the best)
Also if it works so well why can't adults be circumcised with only local anesthesia?
[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 02:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:03:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, in some SE Asian countries they cut up baby girl's genitals too. They use a nerve block. It isn't that bad.
Or is it?
Really not that bad to deliberately slice off the most sensitive part of an infant's dick?
I'd say it's bad. Almost on the level of rape.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nugymmer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:07:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None of the arguments used to justify circumcision stand up to scrutiny. Arguments mean nothing when you're violating the rights of an infant - especially their sex organs.
I expect there to be a growing hatred against people who do this to infants in the future. I can see why too.
I dont give a shit about anesthetics. If they anesthetised baby girls before cutting off parts of their genitals, would you be happy with that? Nah.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Irrespective of our own personal viewpoints, it is still the deliberate destruction of an important sensory and mechanical function of the penis.
If people go to prison for cutting baby girl's genitals then they should also go to prison for doing similar things to baby boys.
Which is stupid because a dick is just like any other part of the human body and should be checked over by the doctor at birth to look for abnormalities.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:59:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Circumcision is so common in America because of Victorian era doctors wanting to curb masturbation. Corn Flakes (the breakfast cereal) was also created for this reason and was created by the same guy that pushed so hard for circumcision in America, John Harvey Kellogg.
John Harvey Kellogg is best known for the invention of the famous breakfast cereal, Corn Flakes, in 1878. Originally, he called this cereal Granula, which he later changed to Granola in 1881. However, due to patent rights, he had to once again change the name to Corn Flakes.[19] These Corn Flakes were invented as part of his health regimen to prevent masturbation. His belief was that bland foods, such as these, would decrease or prevent excitement and arousal.
Kellogg worked on the rehabilitation of masturbators, often employing extreme measures, even mutilation, on both sexes. He was an advocate of circumcising young boys to curb masturbation and applying phenol to a young woman's clitoris.
Also, the most predictable factor for a boy being circumcised is if his father is circumcised. This is why it has persisted.
Kelpsie ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:26:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes on them, I'm circumcised and literally never stop masturbating.
Idle hands are the Devil's workshop. I can see people taking that the wrong way.
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 01:49:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No matter what people might tell you when this question is asked ( many people like to stretch a lot of truths to feel less weird for being circumcised), there is no significant benefit to it unless your foreskin is too tight to function properly.
As long as you wash your dick like a normal human being you're no worse off. In fact, you have an advantage from your in tact nerve endings.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:00:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also when its too tight you can fix that by cutting some of it off in a diamond shape and stitching it back toghether so its not so tight anymore. But 2 of my doctors didnt mention that it could be done, they only said i cam cut it all off. I had to learn it on fckn reddit
There are also methods for stretching and expanding the foreskin to cure phimosis that many doctors are unaware of.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:20:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeab but you have keep doing it even after you stretched it enough. So ill be getting a frenuloplasty. I almost got it circumsised because 2 doctors didnt know it was a thing...
And phimosis (the medical condition of having an unretractable foreskin) can't be properly diagnosed until your mid to late teens (17-18) because of differences in development between boys. As in, you could be having problems retracting it at age 15, but it will resolve itself by age 18.
Well, the mericans will proceed to tell you that it prevents about 5,000 penis infections yearly all over the usa. Infections easily treated with topical antibiotics or antiseptics.
What they won't tell you is that "That's all" and that infant circumcision literally kills about a handful of infants in the usa every fucking year from complications.
Pretty much any surgical treatment has a risk of complications. Every time you get an IV placed in a vein there's a risk of infection, sepsis and thrombosis for instance - its minimal but there.
Given that each year about a million newborn circumcisions are performed in the usa i am certain that each year at least one infant dies from bleeding out through a medically unnecessary cut on its penis.
There's some evidence that circumcision can reduce the chances of transmitting/receiving the HIV virus by a very small amount. Of course the chances fall to nearly zero when wearing a condom so what's the point? It can also be used to treat very severe phimosis, but that's very rare. It's an outdated procedure that, in my opinion, blatantly violates basic bodily autonomy and should be phased out entirely.
Yeah. Apparently it used to be common in Australia among protestants for a couple of decades after WW2. (Catholics take the Council of Jerusalem as discouraging the practice.) Stopped in the 60's.
No one does it now unless they have a specific religious reason, and there's a push to restrict it further, it's just odd and slightly creepy that the US still does.
beeyonca ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:55:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea EVERYONE in the US does it. It's barbaric.
thtrf ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse, they don't use the metric system
beeyonca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which would be more accurate to use if you're snipping a baby's foreskin.
Believe me, I certainly didn't. My husband is uncut and there was no way in HELL I was going to let anyone do anything to my baby's penis that involved cutting off part of it.
There's no significant medical benefit. A few decades/century ago, people were certain that there are a ton of medical benefits like it's cleaner, reduces infections, et al. But it's been proven false.
Born in the US and only found out I was circumcised when I was sat in UK sex ed and got confused when they were talking about cleaning under the foreskin. Thanks mom and dad.
Sure there's a benefit: Getting to stare down millions of years of evolution predicated most blatantly on efficient reproductive abilities and saying "Fuck it, we can do better."
You can get phimosis. It happened to my kid. Poor fella had his circumcision at age 11 because if it. It's not a reason to circumcise everyone, but it can happen.
I'm sorry to give you bad news, but you can't diagnose phimosis in a prepubescent child. For many the foreskin does not retract until well into puberty. Even then, if you do have phimosis, there are treatments that involve stretching and expanding the foreskin or surgically expanding the foreskin that could be explored before circumcision.
I thought being circumcised is mandatory all over the world? Well, TIL.
Source: living in Philippines, where circumcision is like the test of your manhood. Now I am thinking maybe it's just our culture.
markko79 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's cultural and hygienic, according to the parents who have it done. We're to the point now where no one in their 20's has any living relatives who had a foreskin past one year of age.
markko79 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have worded that better. In most families, no one in their 20's have any living relatives with a foreskin. That is fact. If you kept up with my postings, you'd have read that Hispanic families tend not to circumcise and their increased birth rate has skewed the overall national and regional circ rates. Whites, blacks, and Asian-Americans tend to have circ rates in the 90% and higher area.
No matter though, 10% is still enough people that saying most families have no living relatives with a foreskin is not reasonable.
markko79 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:09:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grandpa was born in 1940 and is circumcised. Dad is circumcised. All the uncles are circumcised. All of the brothers are circumcised. Hence, all of the living relatives in the family is foreskin-free. I don't see the problem with my statement.
It's surprisingly like 60% in the US. There's plenty of debates about it online. I only needed to see a baby get circumcised to be pretty opposed to it.
Bacteria growing under the foreskin....? I am pretty ignorant about most things but that seems a bit gross. Is this normal? Is it something circumcised also have?
If the fact that bacteria is growing is what you consider "gross", note that bacteria grows on your skin, inside of you, pretty much all over. It's completely normal and natural, and indeed, often helps with things like digestion.
No idea if that particular type of bacteria helpful, but the majority of bacteria (I don't remember the exact number) is either helpful or has no effect on the human body.
markko79 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:26:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's normal. No, circumcised guys don't have that same bacteria growing on the heads of their penises.
I'm pretty sure they do. It's all the same bacteria weather you have a foreskin or not. Having one isn't an excuse to have any more bacteria growing on your dick than the next man, just that you're more likely to get a false positive UTI screening if you don't pull it back first.
When you count all the bacteria in your gut and on your skin you'll find you have 10x more bacterial cells than human cells (though they're much smaller). Many of these bacteria are really important for keeping you healthy.
Big_TX ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:55:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
If you are a kid it may. It may have not separated yet. But once you can pull it back it's fine to do so. And it is soposed to go back and forth. If you pee with it down you can't aim well.
Sulfate ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:25:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like putting your thumb over a garden hose.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the record, I can count the number who were uncircumcised on two hands.
Really? Is that a thing in certain states or is that nation wide?
markko79 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 00:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not many Hispanics here. That's the group that has lowered the circumcision average for the rest of the country. In California, for example, the stats say that only 33% of baby boys are circumcised. However, the number of white, black, and Asian baby boys that are circumcised in California is near 90%.
also_HIM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your numbers are way off. California is down to 22%. As hispanics aren't even 40% of the population, even if not a single hispanic baby in CA were circumcised, that would leave a circumcision rate of 35% for the rest of the populace. Texas has an equally large percentage of hispanic population and a circumcision rate more than 2x California's. Moreover, Washington state has a circumcision rate of only 14% and only 12% of the population is hispanic (much less than the US average).
This is so sad to me, especially considering that it's a procedure done with regularity to infants.
markko79 ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 23:48:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the locker room syndrome. Since everyone in the locker room is circumcised, young men and boys assume that's how a "normal" penis looks from day one. Circumcision is still common in the white, black, and Asian communities. It's still pretty uncommon in the Hispanic community. The numbers you hear... that only 6 in ten kids are circumcised in 2016... is deceiving. Since so many Hispanics are giving birth, the national figure is skewed. The circ rate in my hospital is 99%. The only kids that aren't circumcised are the Mennonites who are born here.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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markko79 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:26:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im in my early 30's now, but most of my male partners have been intact. There was no way i was cutting off part my sons penis. Im glad the trend is slowing fading in the US.
A circumcised dick is not nearly as sensitive as an uncircumcised one. As one of the minority of American men who is uncut, I can't even walk around nude, much less wear clothes, with my foreskin pulled back. It hurts a lot to have my head uncovered.
The head of an uncut penis is way more sensitive than that of a hoodless one.
Yeah I can't imagine the pain of having the head exposed to something rough textured like the material of my boxers all day. I think I would be sat perfectly still trying not to move at all.
:( Foreskin is supposed to stay and only be opened up if the tip is too tight. Foreskin is really fucking soft and silky and keeps the crown from getting weird and wrinkly. People who thinks it's gross and dirty only tell me about THEIR washing habits.
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why on earth is it so common in the US?
cC2Panda ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Kellogg brothers(of breakfast cereal fame) were 7th day Adventists. They were very religious and believed that masturbation was a grave sin. They also believed that they could prevent masturbation with circumcision. So they used there fame and money to run a pro-circumcision campaign, as well as promoting using carbolic acid on girl clitoris. He was at the time well respected and publish a few medical books and was considered a top expert on sexuality along with Sylvester Graham(maker of Graham crackers).
They literally thought that masturbation was worse than war and small pox, and so they campaigned until the majority of American boys were circumcised.
And now it's a billion dollar a year industry. Which might explain why nobody is really interested in stopping it, even though it clearly does more harm than good.
The skin graph industry uses foreskin as seed skin. There are millions if not billions of dollars a year in that Industry devoted to keeping the practice up.
Honestly though, for a fucked up idea like that ("cut your infant's penis! No, hear me out: it will make sure they hate sex!"), it really needs the society to be receptive to it.
lurgi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly for the reasons given above. Everyone does it. So new parents do it, because that's what everyone does.
I made this post in another part of the thread but I'll copy and paste it here:
Circumcision is so common in America because of Victorian era doctors wanting to curb masturbation. Corn Flakes (the breakfast cereal) was also created for this reason and was created by the same guy that pushed so hard for circumcision in America, John Harvey Kellogg.
John Harvey Kellogg is best known for the invention of the famous breakfast cereal, Corn Flakes, in 1878. Originally, he called this cereal Granula, which he later changed to Granola in 1881. However, due to patent rights, he had to once again change the name to Corn Flakes.[19] These Corn Flakes were invented as part of his health regimen to prevent masturbation. His belief was that bland foods, such as these, would decrease or prevent excitement and arousal.
Kellogg worked on the rehabilitation of masturbators, often employing extreme measures, even mutilation, on both sexes. He was an advocate of circumcising young boys to curb masturbation and applying phenol to a young woman's clitoris.
Also, the most predictable factor for a boy being circumcised is if his father is circumcised. This is why it has persisted.
nugymmer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:07:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, because some fathers are traumatised by their own mutilation and want to re-enact that trauma on their sons. That's why it's so predictable.
Either that or they're indifferent and buy into the bullshit about STDs, HIV, germs, hygiene, looks "prettier" or any other assorted crap they can come up with to justify it in their own minds.
markko79 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's false. The foreskins are sent to the pathology lab for examination. The reason it's done in infancy is that it costs $500 and the health insurance company pays for it in full. If done later, it costs $20,000, requires an operating room, and insurance won't pay for it unless there is a pathological reason for it being done.
markko79 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hospital circumcision foreskins go to pathology and are placed in poison (formaldehyde). No one is going to make eyelids out of them... or whatever you pretend to be the truth.
FloppY_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"oh it is cheaper to mutilate him now? Do it!"
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markko79 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Consider it: The parents are hedging their bets by getting it done now for free, rather than waiting for Junior to ask for it when he's ten years old when it'll cost a half-a-year's wages.
I do think the rate as a whole has gone down, though. A lot of parents are doing more of their own research before they have kids, and are reevaluating decisions that were set in stone for a long time. My mother had my brothers circumcised, but she says if she had the information she has now she wouldn't do it again. Several friends circumcised their first son, but they didn't with their other kids. I found that the information was so prevalent that it was easy for me to make a decision. Birth culture has swung far towards parents making independent, informed decisions rather than doing what everyone else has done or what doctors tell them to do.
Adariel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Circumcision is still common in the white, black, and Asian communities.
Where are you getting this info? Asians have one of the lowest rates of circumcision. Maybe Asians coming from Muslim countries (Indonesia, for example...but they also do some types of female circumcision there) do, but definitely not East Asians. Supposedly less than 1% of Japanese.
Edit: Korea appears to be an exception (high circumcision rate), but that is explained as due to American GI influence during the war...same with Filipinos.
markko79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Third generation Asians tend to have it done. Fresh-off-the-boat Asians... it takes a generation or two before it becomes routine.
Adariel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so you mean Asian Americans? Or overseas Asians in other countries? Either way, I don't see how you can say it's "still" common but claim that it's "still pretty uncommon" in the Hispanic community.
That the immigrants don't adopt it as routine until they're two or three generations proves that it's not part of their usual culture.
In any case, if you're talking about Asian Americans, please specify that. There's only like a billion Chinese to completely disprove your statement if you just leave it at "Asian." Also all the South Asians (Indians).
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm willing to bet that 80% of the third generation Asian-Americans in California are circumcised. Probably closer to 90%.
I wasn't aware that the most advanced nation in 2016 is circumcising people regularly. Got a source?
wicksa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Our circ rates are high (probably 80-90%), and you are right that most hispanics don't circ, but I have seen a rise in white people choosing not to circ. It's a mix of crunchy/hippy type people and seemingly average middle to upper class couples. Also European immigrants. I don't think I have had any black or asian couples choose not to circ though.
Circumcision is common in very specific Asian countries, many of which aren't well represented in the US. China, Japan, India, Vietnam and most of SE Asia other than Indonesia and countries in that region all have incredibly low rates of circumcision.
Where I am, upper middle class white people here pretty much stopped circumcising their kids. They all fall on the crunchy scale somewhere between home birth and C-section + formula but still baby wears.
also_HIM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I already replied to you elsewhere demonstrating your assumptions about hispanics skewing the numbers is wrong... I see here you mention Mennonites, so I can only assume you live somewhere in the eastern part of the US - somewhere like Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Ohio. The eastern states have far, far higher circumcision rates (80-90%) than the western states do (20-40%), so it's not too surprising you see rates like that at your hospital. But you can judge the entire US based on your local hospital. There are places where the circumcision rates have plummeted among all races.
It's fair enough to say you can't judge the entire country by a single average - there's a clear and large differentiation between geographic areas - but the national average is decreasing because the western states are dragging it there, not because hispanics are.
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in Wisconsin. I was the go-to person at work on the topic. I did a semester project on the topic... not by choice. We drew topics out of a hat in nursing school. I've kept up on the topic since then.
also_HIM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet your numbers are off, and your conclusions are not supported by the data. Washington state's 14% circumcision rate cannot be explained by the 12% of their population that is hispanic. (Wisconsin, by comparison, has a hispanic population half that - 6% - but a circumcision rate almost 7x Washington's at 82%.) You need to do better research and not extrapolate local effects across the entire country.
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And in a country that has federal criminal laws against female circumcision of any kind...oh, and in a country where abortion is protected by the constitution because of bodily autonomy (which is a VERY good argument for banning circumcision).
But the religious argument from Jews (and some Christians) is going to trump that for a long time. The Jewish practice is thousands of years old and outlawing that religious practice would be a huge blow to religious freedom.
nugymmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Religious freedom DOES NOT include the right to butcher a baby's dick.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would also be a blow to religious freedom to ban certain drugs. But hey, keep playing that line. Circumcision is all about the money being made from gullible parents with the foreskins being sold to biotech companies for making skin cell cultures and skin testing samples.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Zhuinden ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:57:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every single time circumcision gets mentioned on reddit there's a big fight. Why does everyone get up in arms about this of all things?
Simple.
People against circumcision value anatomic integrity.
People for circumcision want to validate either their past mutilation out of their control, or the mutilation they've inflicted on others so that they don't feel bad about it.
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:10:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's an issue of bodily integrity and bodily autonomy, and the right to have your sex organs left intact...every single part of them.
I bet in some countries that practice FGM, I'm sure there's bickering and shitfights as well. That's because it's a pretty serious issue, don't you think?
You realise that the right to a safe and legal abortion is under serious attack and may be outlawed in the USA at some future point? You can probably thank routine infant circumcision for that. 70% of all anti-abortionists who have any influence in politics are MEN...and I'd wager that most of them are circumcised.
I do not have a penis, so don't really have a dog in this fight, but as I understand it, removing foreskin often desensitizes the tip of the penis. So to me, the alternative to circumcizing infants in the hospital isn't circumcizing young boys, teens, or adults, but simply avoiding circumcizing at all.
GodleyX ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 23:57:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. I prefer it this way. My girlfriend prefers it this. And if that's true, then it makes me last longer in bed. Win win I suppose?
It doesn't have any negative impact on me at all. So I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
TammyK ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:12:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See the way I think of it is...
Imagine if you had no idea what circumcision is and you had a baby boy and the doctor asks if you want to cut his foreskin off, and you ask why and the only legitimate reason he can list is cosmetically it looks better, and that there are in fact a lot of risks in getting the procedure done--would you do that to your baby?
GodleyX ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:21:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say am I circumcised? Well look at that I am. And it had absolutely zero impact on my life. So I don't care, flip a coin.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:35:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have no way of knowing the impact it had, because you had it done when you were young.
Just because you aren't aware of what you're missing, doesn't mean you aren't missing anything.
Can your foreskin do your taxes? Does it magically make you more likely to win the lottery?
The only possible thing having an intact foreskin can change is how sex feels or how willing people are to have sex with you. In my area of the world, being uncut is often seen as less attractive, so being cut slightly increases your chances of having sex.
As for the feeling, I may not have any way to compare between the two but I know that putting my circumcised penis inside a girl is amazing. So amazing that I sometimes have to distract myself from how amazing it feels to keep going longer.
So from my perspective, it had zero negative impact on my life, and in fact had quite a bit of positive impact.
It's a medically unnecessary procedure that is carried out by rote. That alone skeeves me out a ton. I don't think it's good for doctors to decide how a baby's going to want his dick to look when he's an adult.
A lot of people in the U.S. do prefer circumcised in appearance, but I think part of that is just the circle of culture: everyone is circumcised so no one even sees uncircumcised dicks, and everyone just gets used to what they're seeing, so they keep letting the doctors lop off a part of their babies' dicks.
As for sensitivity, there have been some studies showing that uncircumcised men may be less susceptible to STI's, but that may also be related to their greater willingness to (and enjoyment from) wear/ing condoms. It's probably not the biggest deal, and obviously you shouldn't feel inadequate, but I just think everyone needs to think more carefully about this stuff when it comes to the kids getting born (and snipped) every day.
Isn't it debatable whether there are health benefits? American Academy of Pediatrics (obviously biased) suggests that it reduces UTIs, risk of cancer, and STDs.
Source by any chance? Not a subject I have much knowledge on.
wylderk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:06:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a medically unnecessary procedure that is carried out by rote.
It can be medically necessary at times though. I got an infection when I was like 8-9 and had to get it circumcised then. Trust me, I would have MUCH preferred they had done it when I was born.
That's not to say I think it should always be done, but I don't understand the people that are totally against it 100%.
I think he was implying that doing it to infants, which is routine, is medically unnecessary.
Cosey28 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:17:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's medically necessary, then I'm all for it. But if not, there isn't a doctor in the world who will be cutting up my baby's penis.
I don't think there are many people who are actually 100% against it, really. I just think that it should be a decision that is made by the person the penis belongs to.
The procedure should be done later in life when they're old enough to decide for themselves
markko79 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It costs $500 to have it done to newborn and insurance pays for it. Having it done later costs $20,000, requires an operating room, and insurance won't pay for it.
I should have been specific: immediately after a baby is born, it is almost certainly medically unnecessary. The medical necessity of it also doesn't factor into the decisionmaking by most doctors on behalf of infants. I'm sorry you had to remember yours nonetheless.
TammyK ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the risks of having the procedure done well outweigh the chances of you getting an infection later on and having to do so. I'm sorry you had to go through that though, sounds awful :/
It's nice seeing another guy with this mindset. It was done long before I developed memories, so it's not like I have any context for what I'm missing. Supposedly sex would feel better, but that means nothing to me. Sex feels great and I know enough girls that have admitted they find uncircumcised penises unattractive to feel that my chances at sex are much higher circumcised. I'm quite happy with my penis and really wish people would quit acting like I'm a victim and I should be ashamed of my dick.
It really doesn't bother you that normal body parts of babies are routinely removed for zero reason and without the consent of the person having it done?
But there is a reason. Aesthetics. I've spoke with plenty of women who find circumcised penises unattractive, to the point of losing interest in someone who wasn't circumcised and (in their teen years) even speaking negatively about it among friends. Personally I'm extremely happy I've never had to hear a girl say my penis looks disgusting. As I said I'm extremely happy with my penis.
On the flip side I suffer zero consequences from my parents decision. Hell, my life is ever so slightly easier since it's less hassle to clean. One could argue I have relatively less sensation, but since I have nothing to compare that to it means nothing to me.
And on the point of consent, who cares? Everyone's parents make millions of decisions on their behalf before they're old enough to make their own. No one complains about the parent deciding to put their kid in a sport which could cause them serious bodily harm and lasting brain injury. Getting me circumcised has had near zero effect on my life. Compare that to something like deciding which school I would go to which has greatly shaped my entire life and the consent argument is laughable.
Less hassle to clean? Cleaning a penis isn't rocket science, but you seem to think it is. Like I said to another guy in the thread it takes me no more than five seconds in the shower and my dick is clean as a whistle. And aesthetics? You wouldn't find it creepy at all if parents decided to get their baby daughter's labia surgically adjusted for aesthetic purposes? Exactly, doing to a dick is just as creepy and pedophilic. Finally, in terms of consent, yeah, parents make loads of decisions for their children, that's their jobs as parents. None of those require having a normal body part surgically removed for no reason.
Less hassle to clean? Cleaning a penis isn't rocket science, but you seem to think it is. Like I said to another guy in the thread it takes me no more than five seconds in the shower and my dick is clean as a whistle.
If you reread my previous post you can see I said "ever so slightly easier", as in effectively no difference at all. I fully realize how ridiculous people are who complain about the terrible burden of cleaning a couple square centimeters of skin.
And aesthetics? You wouldn't find it creepy at all if parents decided to get their baby daughter's labia surgically adjusted for aesthetic purposes?
Of course I would, aesthetics are dependent on the culture around you, and mine is against that. I'm all for changing cultures, and can acknowledge it's not the best of practices but I can't begin to care enough about this issue to see it as anything other than a personal decision, and in my life I'm very happy with my circumcised penis and am glad my parents made this choice.
Finally, in terms of consent, yeah, parents make loads of decisions for their children, that's their jobs as parents. None of those require having a normal body part surgically removed for no reason.
Maybe there aren't many cases of normal body parts being removed but lets compare it to braces. In circumcision there is a quick surgery to remove a piece of skin that does essentially nothing. With braces there's a fairly long surgery to glue a bunch of metal into a child's mouth to slowly maneuver their teeth into a slightly more aesthetically pleasing configuration, all the while opening them up to years of having to be careful of what they eat, possible low self esteem and bullying, and potentially missing out on making out with their first crush. All in all, braces look way more evil to me than circumcision.
As I said, I don't have strong feelings one way or another about the issue, but I'd be much happier if I never had to hear another holier-than-thou asshole call my parents "creepy and pedophilic" while implying I should be ashamed of my genitals. I don't plan on having children, but if I ever do have a boy I kinda hope the mother would want to have the kid circumcised just so they can have one less thing in common with you. Kindly fuck off and have a nice day.
By most accounts I've seen, foreskin is a kind of built-in masturbation sleeve. The practice of its routine medical removal actually began in the U.S. as part of a crusade/attempt to keep boys from masturbating. You shouldn't feel burdened by being circumcised, it's not a huge deal. But that doesn't mean that circumcision should be the default forever. All I want is for people to think about it before they let it happen.
It was obviously a really poorly executed crusade since I masterbate at least once a day and have yet to feel that my smaller foreskin has made this even slightly inconvenient. (I'm now wondering if it makes clean up relatively easier, it might actually have saved me a box or two of kleenex in the past decade or so if that is the case.)
As I said above, I see this as a personal choice that parents have to make. I think it's a ridiculously unimportant choice when compared to most decisions a parent makes for their child, but I do hope they put serious thought into every decision they make regarding their child.
I see this as a personal choice that parents have to make.
But it's not one that they're actively making, and, frankly, I don't think their child's genital appearance is a decision that should be theirs to make in the first place. (caveat: I don't see any problem with religious circumcision). U.S. Doctors do it to babies as a default, which is an extreme thing to be a default. Doctors (in most states) have to be told not to go snipping off pieces of babies' penises! Going around saying "it's not that big of a deal" doesn't exactly encourage any new parents to think hard about the decision, either, so I'm really not sure why you think it's so important to say. I haven't seen anyone take an extremist anti-circumcision tack in this thread, so why chime in just to say "don't worry about it"?
I haven't seen anyone take an extremist anti-circumcision tack in this thread.
You must have missed the part a bit above where the one guy implied my parents were creepy and pedophilic for choosing to have me circumcised.
I didn't know about it being a default decision in the states, and find that really weird. In Canada there is no default and the parent has to make a decision, though it's recommended against by the Canadian Paediatric Society.
And if you look above you'll see I started into this conversation by agreeing with another guy who's happy with his circumcision only to be asked if I'm okay with removing body parts of newborns for "zero reason and without the consent of the person having it done."
As for your caveat, I think it's hypocritical to complain about parents not giving it thought, while defending parents blindly doing what their religion tells them to. I'm also really really hoping you're not okay with the whole rabbi-sucking-blood-from-a-newborn's-penis kind of religious circumcision.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The aesthetic preference thing only depends on what is the norm in the country, and that norm can easily be changed. I'm sure some people think this looks great, but it doesn't mean the tradition should be continued in 2017 http://media.medicalbag.com/images/2016/02/09/lip-plating.jpg
Also the only people who can really say circumcision made a difference in their life are people who had it done after sexual maturity. You don't know if you suffered zero consequences from it. Imagine if you had your tongue out all the time every day and it dried out and lost sensitivity, you probably wouldn't die but there's definitely a difference.
The aesthetic preference thing only depends on what is the norm in the country, and that norm can easily be changed. I'm sure some people think this looks great, but it doesn't mean the tradition should be continued in 2017 http://media.medicalbag.com/images/2016/02/09/lip-plating.jpg
I fully realize that aesthetics are culture driven, but I happen to live in a culture that is pro-circumcision and so it's been in my best interest to have been circumcised. I bet the dude-in-your-picture's wife thinks his lip plate is sexy as fuck. He probably can't wait to put a bigger one in. They probably get freaky to celebrate.
Also the only people who can really say circumcision made a difference in their life are people who had it done after sexual maturity. You don't know if you suffered zero consequences from it. Imagine if you had your tongue out all the time every day and it dried out and lost sensitivity, you probably wouldn't die but there's definitely a difference.
So your argument is I should be sad because I could maybe have enjoyed sex even more if I wasn't cut. This means nothing to me. Sex feels amazing to the point where I often have to distract myself from how incredible it is so I can last longer. I wouldn't even particularly mind loosing a few more nerves. So the argument that I can't know what I'm missing out on is ridiculous. Massive amounts of dopamine are flooding into my system whether I have those nerves or not. I love every part of my dick and no amount of what-ifs are ever going to convince me that circumcision has in any way been less than a positive in my life.
I understand the arguments people have against circumcision and I'd never fault someone for choosing to not give their child one, but I'll never be able to see it as more than one of a million choices a parent has to make for their child. I do realize that by choosing to circumcise a child they "rob him of his choice", but I couldn't care less. My parents chose to put me in a French school. I had no say in this yet it's shaped my entire life in a way that so overshadows the "loss of choice over my body" that I can't help but laugh at that argument. Deciding whether or not a kid will grow up with a dog, which sport they go into, where you'll live, how often they see their grandparents, what their bed time is, do they get an allowance, which chores are their responsibility and when to give them what other responsibilities are all choices that are going to have astronomically larger effects on their life than whether or not they're circumcised.
GodleyX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:30:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. Guess this means I'm not the only one. Honestly I think peoples time and energy is better spent on more productive things. Things that have a much larger impact than the circumcision procedure which has zero effect on me at all.
Every time I see these threads there's millions of people going on about the evils of circumcision like every guy that's been cut is carrying around this great scar on their psyche. Meanwhile when my first girlfriend asked me if I was I had to mentally think about it. It was such a completely unremarkable bit of knowledge about myself that I had to remind myself what the word meant and then picture my penis in my head.
I'm pretty damn happy with my penis and all the pleasure it's given me and am looking forward to the rest of my life with it.
Asking who is more sensitive, cut or uncut, is like asking which hurts more, a kick in the balls or childbirth. You can never know for sure because it never can happen both to the same person. Nobody (to my awareness) gets circumcised as an adult, and infants don't have sex or the ability to speak, so they can't describe how they feel compared to each other. Guesses can be made, but nothing is provable.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not ask them is there's a difference then? Every anti-cutting thing I've run across seems to just base their argument on speculation.
Besides, even if you do lose a little sensation, so what? It's probably a negligible amount, and if you're less sensitive, wouldn't you last longer? That's supposed to be a good thing, isn't it?
but as I understand it, removing foreskin often desensitizes the tip of the penis.
Eeehhhh, case by case basis.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you had your tongue out 24/7 and let it dry and rub against clothing what do you think happens?
TammyK ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 00:14:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's completely unnecessary and simply a cosmetic procedure. Why are we giving infant baby boys cosmetic surgery on their sexual organs? Is that seriously not bizarre to you?
GodleyX ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People like to make a big deal out of stuff. Like i said, it has absolutely no impact on me. So I couldn't care if it was or wasn't done.
TammyK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad it hasn't affected your life, but your personal experience isn't everyone's. Some men have been psychologically hurt by this procedure, some physically. If it makes no difference don't give your baby surgery..
Zhuinden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because the baby can't remember it doesn't mean it's not wrong. Just like how it's still wrong to give a girl the date rape drug even if she doesn't remember it.
GodleyX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:25:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a terrible comparison. That has a huge impact on somebody's life. Regardless if him or her remembers anything after they took the date rape drug. That changes a person. I know somebody who was given the date rape drug, they are not the same person. It is wildly different than circumcision, the two just don't compare at all.
I really hate when this happens, when people completely fucking miss the point of a comparison. Yeah the other person compared two unlike things because if they were the same thing, then what's the point of even comparing it? The other person is showing you their thought process and rational for something via the tool of comparison; it's not going to be completely appropriate all the time but then again that's not really the point and you're missing it
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a very appropriate comparison.
Torturing an infant's genitals is tantamount to rape in my mind...and woe betide anyone I ever actually see doing that to an infant. My blood pressure would go to the moon and I'd probably end up killing them, if I didn't die from a stroke or a heart attack first.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:55:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im pretty sure I wouldnt remember if they had amputated my arm 5min after I was born and I would still have nothing to be thankful for
GodleyX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, sure. You wouldn't remember anything done to you as a baby.
But how is a life long struggle of living with only a single arm and hand the same as a small flap of skin that does not impact your life at all regardless of being there or not?
The argument is why circumcise at all? Would you have been fine if they just lopped off a small chunk of your forearm right after birth as well? By all accounts, it wouldn't grossly affect your life and you wouldn't remember it at all. It just makes no sense to defend a practice that basically has no medical purpose considering over half the world doesn't go through the procedure and they're basically fine. It's not like circumcision reduces your risk for cancer or something.
I didn't find out until college. Overheard some girl complaining about some guy being uncircumcised and nit needing a condom (she was dumb, I don't remember what her reasoning was, but she was definitely dumb) and my best friend was calling her out that foreskin wasn't a natural catch for semen. Somehow that lead to me asking what circumcision qualified as and learned that I was circumsized. Until then I didn't know it was common or done for nonreligious reasons.
Tldr:small town sex ed is a waste of everyone's time.
i'm circumcised, i was at the age of 10. im british. im sat here at 19 years old like 'really?' when i hear shit like this
SquidCap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to top if off, there are no medical or other rational reasons for cutting a piece of nerve laden skin off because of "reasons". Horrid tradition that a lot of people are willing to defend, because of "reasons".. I have never understood the whole thing, i know of only one person in my 43 of existence with circumcised penis (didn't ask, we have Saunas here so we see a lot of dudes naked in our lifetime, he is a good friend but really, none of my business what is happening in his).
But we dont need comprehensive sex ed...no....everything is fine. People dont need to know about their bodies...ugh
rfreitaz ยท 1977 points ยท Posted at 23:22:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how much of this is true, it was my cousin (who is a doctor) who told me. He was in his first year in a clinic and people went there to have an appointment because he was good looking. Elder ladies loved him particularly. But this is totally unrelated, and the worst case was when this elder lady goes in with her granddaughter, around 8 yo. She had a severely infected wound in her head. Upon close inspection, he saw the wound crawling with small maggots and the smell was terrible. He was pissed, of course, and asked why didn't she washed the wound and brought her earlier. She said she thought it would heal with time and was afraid to wash it, lest water enters her brain and kills her. There was also this woman that took her 6 yo daughter there to check why she still didn't have pubes.
The episode of South Park where the boys lure a while bunch of pedophiles to a taping of a show with Chris Hansen to prevent Cartman from saying horrible things about Jews. They end up walking into the studio and exclaiming "oh no Chris Hansen!" and shooting themselves in the head.
I'm waiting for the pube-a-roo so i can "hold my puberty, I'm going in!"
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I didn't try to continue the thread.
rfreitaz ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 05:04:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. The wound was cleaned the bery same day, she was treated with antibiotics and went back to the clinic every day to get new bandages (I don't know if it's the right word but you get it).
Cheksout ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:56:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately she died when they tried to wash her head. Granny tried to warn them. :(
[deleted] ยท 180 points ยท Posted at 02:19:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom didn't hit puberty or get her period until she was 19. I, however, started my period when I was 7 - almost 8 -and I was mortified. I went to the nurse screaming and crying, demanding they call 911. Quite a traumatic day.
[deleted] ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 05:46:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had overheard an adult conversation at 10 years old about how someone found out they had cancer by bleeding from their rectum. I got my period a few days later and broke the news to my mom that I had cancer because I too was bleeding from my butt.
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:29:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the best thing I've heard all day.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:38:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad the emotional rollercoaster that was my first period brought you joy.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This complements my breast experience. I was newly 9 and had recently watched an episode of Family Guy where Peter has a breast lump. A few days later, I leaned against my desk at school and it hurt. I examined myself, found my own lump, and cried to my mom that I had "cancer." MRW she told me I was just "getting boobies."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you imagine if they had webmd when we were children? We'd be convinced of our untimely demise non-stop.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:55:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not at all. Very healthy family and well being. Reproductive and hormone problems. One of her Fallopian tubes is not fully connected, ovary problems, odd shaped uterus. She had 6 miscarriages before I was her first successful pregnancy.
Klowned ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:14:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamn, that's dedication. She continued to try through 6 miscarriages?
Kigarta ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dedication or a stone cold psycho. I don't think I could deal with that much emotional trauma.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she came from a huge catholic family with 11 siblings of her own so probably really felt the pressure to also have her own kids. Honestly, I don't know. I think she did at one point give up because she didn't have me until she was 30.
If she is hardcore Catholic she can't use birth control. So the only giving up is no fucking, or I watching biorythms...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she isn't a practicing Catholic, just raised. Still felt the expectancy to reproduce and have lots of kids from her catholic parents I'm sure (they died when I was 6 months old, can't say for myself).
one of them had been on it since she was 4 and the other still hasnt started at 22. i... dont really know what to say on it being a gay guy, but like... i feel we're a little bit more consistent with it
That's also young. But 6 is a really little child.
tjeulink ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:04:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i believe there is this weird phenomena going on where girls are getting menstruation younger and younger, the age is shifting in that regard. its weird.
My sister had a teacher that said it was because of the hormones they gave chickens to fatten them.
msiri ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:30:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard its because were eating too many fat chickens and getting fat. Childhood obesity triggering puberty because it tricks the endocrine system into thinking the body is mature enough for childbearing.
I did a report on this for one of my university classes. After my research i feel pretty confident it's not true, but science is always changing and improving, so who knows?
bexelle ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more related to increased energy stores (adipose) I believe. People used to be much less nourished and now we over-eat.
The closer a girl gets to 100 lbs, the more likely she is to begin cycling. Obesity is the issue and girls are becoming obese at younger and youngers ages and nearing the magical 100 lbs. mark
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I've never heard of that '100 lbs marks the period spot'. Where'd you learn that?
rfreitaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it was a pretty small town. People were not very well educated and I guess they just wanted an excuse to go to the doctor. It was a public health clinic by the way, people wouldn't pay for it.
Yeah but there's a difference not being well educated and not even reflecting on your own life experience and sexual development.
rfreitaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I don't remember when my pubes showed up. I'd guess it was after 8 or 9. But you know, older people who live in small towns have this kind of behavior and love going to the doctor. My grandma used to love going to a clinic.
I guess that's possible. And wow, 8 or 9? Are you a guy or girl? I don't think that happened to me until I was...maybe 11.
rfreitaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a guy, and I'm not sure about that age. Thinking about it now I have a picture of me when I was 9 and I have no leg hair. Guess it was after 10 then.
Well, that concludes my nightly browsing of reddit.
Kigarta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My nurse of a mother explained to me years ago about the homeless and maggots. While it is considered very unsanitary, because the maggots eat dead flesh the wound is often pretty clean. Outside of bacterial growth and the maggots themselves of course.
My mom lost her shit when she found out my grandma didn't change her needle between blood sugar tests. My mom lectured her, I lectured her, and she still wont change it. It's like two years old. Grandma's gonna die of an infection one day but that's her problem. Also she had a friend who didn't know how to use the needle right, so instead of poking herself with it, she'd scratch her skin till she bled. I cringed when I heard that.
When i first got diagnosed they sent me home with lancets and test strips, but no lancet gun. I seriously thought i had to manually stab myself with the lancet. Went out two days later and bought a lancet gun.
I change lancets for every single test. Most diabetics apparently think this is hilarious.
TIL these exist... apparently I'm also an idiot - but I'm not a diabetic.
OpalFae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:28 on February 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, I only new about the lancet guns from my great grandmother until I had to start giving blood regularly and came across the manual lancets that just deploy with pressure (for anyone who hasn't done it, they check bloody sugar first). That hurts almost more than the next bit :(
It's funny, I get to poke people all the time without a lancet gun. However when it comes time to poke my own finger, I turn into a big baby and NEED a gun
Yea, I change mine like every couple of months. No infections here. I always change my insulin needles though... except for a couple times when I ran out...
I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure that is the kind of needle you use to inject insulin, not to test your blood sugar. I can 100% feel the difference if I reuse a needle for insulin, but have never been able to tell with a lancet to test my blood sugar. Literally all the diabetics I know rarely change the lancet.
Yeah I don't know a single diabetic who frequently changes Lancet. Even changing injection needles every single time is difficult. Carrying around an injection pen is easy, but making sure you've always got a pocket of spare needles is less so.
lolghurt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the hollow needle for injecting deforms more than (what I assume is) a solid lancet.
My grandmother was the same, also never washed her hands or wiped her fingers before testing. And she just stabbed her injectors through her clothes (the pen-like things with actual adjustable insulin). She lived to be 90, never had an infection and died of breast cancer. Meanwhile, my dad who is OCD as fuck and cleans himself and his house like it's a sterile laboratory has had MRSA twice. Go figure.
Other than recently when I changed it because I found one in the zipper pocket of my meter, I cannot remember the last time I changed my lancet. I don't ever notice the difference.
You don't really have to change the needle that often. Change it if it gets dull or if you let a family member use it. Sharing with a family member sounds weird but it happens sometimes. When I was taking care of my dad who has Alzheimer's, my mom never sent his kit so I would test him with mine. He was on insulin and actually needed to be tested after meals.
There's a joke among diabetics about changing out the lancet on St. Dismas day...a made up saint so there's not actually a St Dismas day. In other words, nobody's changing it. Pen needles are a different story though, they have to be changed.
Ehhh, most people don't change the lancets frequently. Or ever.
Personally, I find that they hurt way more when they're new, so I hate changing mine.
From what I've read, the risk of infection is extremely low, as it's just your own body fluids on the lancet, and there isn't much likelihood of exposure to external pathogens, unless you share the lancet with other people.
My dad and his wife are both diabetic. I didn't meet my dad until I was 19 and when I went to his house he had a box on the floor full of used needles. I honestly thought he was an addict!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in medical claims reimbursement for a group of retirees that used to work for a large Midwest employer. Medical shit is goddamn expensive for old folks..it's practically elder abuse and makes me sick. ๐
Fionaxoxo ยท 5155 points ยท Posted at 21:33:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I suppose this is related, my mother (before she had kids) grew up not even knowing that you could breastfeed a baby. She was never told anything about what breasts were for, sex and even about homosexuality.
Her parents never talked about any topic that was considered taboo, my mother learnt about that once she had her first baby subsequently at 16.
[deleted] ยท 1121 points ยท Posted at 02:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in the 90s, and every sitcom during that time taught me that I'd one day have the "sex talk" with my dad. I dreaded it for years... and it never happened. My parents didn't tell me jack shit about sex. Thankfully it was the 90s, so I learned enough from television.
whambat ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 04:05:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sex talk I got from my mom was 'Nice girls wait until they're married.' I was 17 and we were sitting at a stoplight in the car, she just decided that was the right moment I guess.
Both my parents confronted me (at different times) in the car about me having sex with my boyfriend. I was 17. My dad just asked, no judgement. Mom was all accusatory. She didn't agree with it at the time.
let's see here. my mom told me some basic stuff about sex when I was about 9 (she was telling my sister at the time and didn't mind me listening in (sister is 3 years older)). then at 11 I got taught some more about sex and masturbation in school (jokes on them I had already been jerking off for a while by then). and then at 12 I got reproduction in biology (9.4/10 bitch) where we had to learn about STIs, the various parts of both male and female genitals and the like. after this, I studied up on it online cause I find it super interesting and when I was 15-16 me and my friends would openly discuss these things in an academic manner. sooooooo go dutch education system?
There was a TV programme in the UK about ten years ago that compared our standard sex ed classes to Dutch sex ed classes, 16 year old me was impressed and weirded out by how in-depth it got in some of the Dutch classes.
yeeeaahhh............... maybe some stuff was a little too in depth but most people know the basics (not my ex girlfriend though she felt too awkward to pay attention)
My sex talk consisted of my mom saying ''You don't ever have to do anything you don't want to''. Which I guess is better, but still not very informative. On the other hand we had pretty good sex ed in school so...
whambat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad tried to give me the talk when we were on the way to my wedding. I told him he had 23 years to bring it up and it was too late now. He looked mad but kept it to himself.
Summerie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents waited until I was 15 to give me the sex talk. My dad took me to a nice coffee shop, looked nervous as fuck, told me he had something to tell me, and started talking. Having had access to the internet for years at that point, I just cut him off and told him "I know." He just yelled "thank God!" and ordered us some cake.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fell for a closet case, spent the next three years fucking him on the sly whilst he maintained his 'surfer with blonde girlfriend' image. I think hes married now, it was just a phase...
Tzipity ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:49:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just curious, were you out to your dad when he gave you that sex talk? Because I can imagine giving a sex talk to your gay child when you're a heterosexual isn't easy. Then again I came out to my mom as a lesbian when I was all of 10 or 11 and some of the first words out of her mouth were "How do lesbians have sex?" I still tease her about it but oh my gosh, I was 10!
lol, actually totally not, he was a conservative catholic, he was giving me his version of 'sage advice for a straight son', little did he know Id been fucking random men since 13.
Wow 10, go you. I wasnt offically out till 17 when my Mum asked
'why are you so depressed, is it because you are gay?'
'No Mum that has nothing to do with it, Im just a goth'
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:40:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad: Just know what the fuck you're doing.
His stack of skin mags had done the job like a year earlier, so this was actually sufficient.
Tzipity ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:52:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. So I'm female and as a kid my dads playboys and hustlers and whatever we're kept in a magazine rack beside the toilet. I would sit there flipping through them from a very young age and even remember my mom asking what I was doing and me responding with "Reading daddy's sex magazines."
Meanwhile the mags all disappeared around the time my brother was being potty trained. I asked my mom about that not too long ago. She said "well, he was a boy. It was different."
Jokes on them anyhow, I turned out lesbian so... ;)
Im gay so whenever I found one I would literally only read the articles, it used to be full of great writers, Margaret Atwood, Norman Mailer, Roald Dahl, Kerouack. Vonnegut off the top of my head...
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it's a thing like newspapers are a thing...
I hope you can imagine the look on my father's face when I told him I was pregnant at 14. He works for the Southern Baptist Convention as an Interim Pastor who "fixes" broken churches. He disowned me when I didn't marry the sperm donor lol.
My mom just bought me a ton of books when I was 12 and told me to ask if I had any questions.
Tzipity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:55:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol my mom did the same but she was a teacher so just checked the books out from the school library where she taught. My favorite part is that she specifically told me to only read the first several chapters (so the basic puberty stuff. I'm female and I did get a period talk at least so not sure what the books were even for then). But yeah, obviously when you get handed a book like that and restricted on what to read, you know I flipped to the back first.
This is also why I was certain pubic hair was called public hair for years. Granted it never made sense why hair in a place you tended to keep private was called public but eh... that's what happens when you learn from books.
Oh, and I also remember when a friend found a copy of The Joy Of Sex under her mom's bed. We used to sneak peaks. That whole thing had all those hilarious 70s illustrations. I've never forgotten the bizarre illustration of a man penetrating a woman with his toe.
BAMspek ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:23:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't have sex ed at school? I started in like 5th grade
Cathach2 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did in my school, but it was mostly that girls can get pregnant and here's some pics of diseased dicks. Basically were a condom or your dick will melt off.
fribbas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I recall of 5th grade sex ed was "It's not the first hole, it's not the third hole, it's the second hole". I'm not so sure I knew what "it" was referring to, at the time.
Now that I think about it, this might have been why I was convinced I was dying and even wrote a will when I started my period the next year. Good times.
We had something like puberty ed in 5th grade, mostly it was just about periods and wet dreams (we had to watch both videos; on the second day when they told us we'd bee learning about puberty for boys, you could tell the horror setting in as we all realized that meant the boys had seen the menstruation video the day before; they put us in separate rooms to watch the videos, I think fairly assuming it would be awkward for a mixed group of 10 year olds to be learning about puberty together).
I think we got actual sex ed in 7th grade and then I was in a weird mixed grade group for gym/health class in 12th grade and got sex ed again, and I've since learned that a lot of stuff we learned in that was wrong anyway.
Philippines, all girls school (that was situated right next to an all boys school, how convenient). We had our first sex education at the 5th grade, but girls were already talking about rape in the 4th grade. I was a bit shocked hearing about rape that young cause I had just migrated back from the US.
I lived in Georgia and Alabama through the school, Alabama sex Ed was, don't have sex until your married or you could get an STD.
Georgia said that condoms are not very effective and the only way to not get pregnant or get an std was to not have sex.
Neither explained anything about sex Ed.
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did too. All the kids who were younger than 5th would talk about the 5th grade "family life" unit like it was some kind of cryptid, so my parents never had to give me the talk since they knew I would learn about it in school.
Honestly, for all my elementary school's problems, their sex ed unit was pretty good. We learned about puberty, about genitals, about protection, and about the basics of how (hetero) sex works. No "wait til you're married!" preaching to kids who don't have any intention of having sex or getting married anytime soon anyway. In contrast, we very briefly touched the subject in high school health class, and our teacher basically just said "I figure you all know what sex is at this point. Don't do sex." Which is a fair assumption, but still knowing what sex is =/= knowing what safe sex is and how to practice it.
Haha same... waited and dreaded it... learned from the TV and internet... talk never happened. Almost started at one point but I shut it down.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:11:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we had a group thing at all school with all the kids and parents, but it wasn't really in depth or anything (we were quite young, like maybe 10).
my parents have never had a proper sex talk with me, but I'm sure they know that I can find out anything on the internet that I want to.
((also with me being a queer, trans guy, they probably have no idea what sex would even entail for me and figure it's best for me to work it out myself))
My talk just consisted of my dad coming into my room and telling me that if I was having sex, I should stop. I was 17 and didn't really have sex all that often. If anything, that talk just made me want to do it more.
I got it at 10 from my mom. She locked the two of us in my parents bedroom and sat me down and explained everything over the course of 3 hours.
Good god I was so embarrassed. But I'm glad she gave me all that information.
fribbas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm nearing 30 and I'm still waiting for that talk...All I've gotten so far is literally "These are pads, they go on your underwear" months after needing them.
Luckily, like you, I had TV (the learning channel, indeed) and the internet to help me for most of my educational needs. Ohhh, the can of worms that opened.
LeodFitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my mother one question about sex. She turned bright red, explained it as quickly as possible, and we didn't talk for the rest of the day. AFter that, I just learned everything from the internet.
To this day, half of what I know is probably wrong.
aukondk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I had "the talk" with my parents, I don't remember anything specific anyway. I do however remember learning a lot from a book I found in the house called "Questions about Sex" which, I realize now, they must have left for me to find as I was the eldest.
Sinakus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad tried to do it with me and I just reiterated stuff I knew from the Internet. He was visibly relieved, but now that I'm in my first relationship I kinda wish we had a guy to guy talk about it.
The 90's seemed to be the age of "Let's suppress the sexual revolution that we just lived through."
Like you, most of my sexual education came from TV and a few R rated movies. The famous "Talk" came at church group and school but many of my questions went unanswered because no-one seemed to have an answer for them.
Honestly, it's a wonder I didn't have a sexual harrasment charge before I graduated high school.
The sex talk came in while in my car with my father.
I already lost my virginity at that point and I already knew that condoms were important for disease and birth control, so it went like:
Dad: "Hey, you know, you have an age where you start approaching females-"
V: "I know, condoms and caution."
Dad: "How do you know that?"
V: "Euuhhh... sex ed."
Dad: "Ok, good talk. Good one."
And we never spoke of it again.
amgin3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. In my case though, I could not even learn from television. My mom grounded me when I was 16 when she caught me watching a PG-rated TV show in the middle of the afternoon because some of the characters were sitting in a sauna wrapped in towels (with nothing showing); Note that I already had a girlfriend at the time. I also quit drawing because my mom would ground me if I drew any gender specific features, even just the outline of boobs under clothes.. everything had to be straight lines. I was drawing a video game character at one time who wore a big necklace made from big round beads, and got yelled at because my mom thought they were boobs.
My parents did the same, I also grew up in the 90s (born in 87). At one point my dad asked me about what I was curious about during puberty and when I told him he scolded me. So I learned pretty much all I know from porn, google, and various YouTube videos which ended up being a lot thankfully.
Yeah it was the 90's and I had a "black box" in my room. :-)
f_leaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, I remember my dad giving me the talk when I was a teenager - I already knew more than he did about the subject, but it was so embarrassing for him (and me) I just didn't have the heart to tell him.
Imanobv2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully no parents will have to do that in the first world anymore... future kids'll have learned everything by the age of 10
I don't remember learning shit from my parents or school.
I think I had a pretty good grasp of how things worked (if not how to convince girls to try them with me)
This was pre internet.
I suspect today's kids know more than their parents (assuming qtheir parents aren't gynecologists)
I love when people think not telling teens about sex is the way to keep them from having sex. I mean, they're going to figure it out. If for no other reason than teenage boys rub their dick on/in anything that will let them. Eventually that is bound to be a vagina.
At 16 when you're too ignorant to make the choice for yourself? Yeah, it is.
Raknith ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:26:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no way a 16 year old can make anywhere near enough money to support a child, much less being mature enough. Most young people I see having babies nowadays, the baby ends up being taken care of by the grandparents.
how do you go 8 months without knowing tbh? Didn't your grandma, Great aunts, or any female figure in your family not notice anything for that long? Or was it one of those cases where symptoms weren't really clear?
My mother was 7 months gone with my sister before she found out. She was still in her uk size 8 jeans, still had periods. My auntie was born when my grandmother went to the loo for a shit and caught a baby. Same story.
radmelon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:30:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
British for toilet, and comes from the french "garde ร l'eau" (literally watch out for the water, l'eau is pronounced like low), traditionally called when emptying a chamber pot out of the window (thank goodness for plumbing).
This makes me so mad I don't have the words. I want to hit these parents. They should be locked up for destroying their child's life because of the discomfort of a conversation.
TheBoni ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 00:06:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know what it was until I was a teen myself. Grew up in an more conservative area where kids would joke about marrying someone of the same sex but we didn't know it actually happened. I was a 90s kid.
Yeah my mum used to say that the topic was not allowed to be spoken of, any song that came on the radio that may have been seen sexual or in a way had homosexual tendencies was to be switched off straight away by her father.
She didn't even know George Micheal was gay back in the day.
I suppose its the way people are brought up and it takes someone to break the chain of what is considered taboo, my mum has brought us all up to be open about sex which is good.
W9CR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:05:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up always thinking homosexuality was normal. I grew up in the suburbs of New York City. It wasn't until I was a teen did I learn homophobia was a thing. I was a 90s kid.
That was me too. I remember learning that gay marriage wasn't legal and assuming it was just some legal leftover no one thought to correct yet. I was REALLY surprised to learn that there are people out there actively fighting against gay marriage. I was like 9 and all I could think was "wtf that doesn't even affect you."
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:11:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle is gay and has been with his partner as long as my parents have been together and two of my childhood friends had lesbian parents. It's always seemed normal.
i think it's interesting that there's a lot of conservative christian kids on reddit. I never met any christians growing up and wow these lifestyles are so different
i knew about gays as a kid but didn't know about christians
If you live in the US then odds are you're a Christian or had a Christian upbringing. A full 70% of Americans are Christian; over 40% of the population subscribes to some type of Protestant denomination while 20% is Catholic.
I always thought Confucianism was a school of philosophy, not a religion, but I certainly knew what Buddhism was as a kid. I even had some vague idea what Shintoism was (although I didn't know it was called that).
the thing about chinese religions is that they don't rule each out like how if you're christian you can't also be muslim. shintoism is also just japanese buddhism, zen buddhism is a chinese combination of original buddhism and taoism, confucianism is more separate as it believes that life after death is not reincarnation and you instead watch over your descendants. Many people I know believe in the feng shui and 'respect your elders' portion of confucianism but does not believe in heaven and follow buddhist meditation methods
Well, now you've got me curious about a few things as eastern religions have always interested me.
shintoism is also just japanese buddhism
I thought Shintoism had its own pantheon and a concept of an afterlife, as opposed to reincarnation, neither of which (correct me if I'm wrong) Buddhism has. I was also under the impression that taoism is a sect of Buddhism. Is that accurate or is it something separate?
taoism is older than buddhism and is a set of philosophies created by lao zi. buddhism was introduced to china much later. one of the main points is that there's no need to force anything to happen to to just let nature take its course. usually, i'd suggest reading the daodejing but i've yet to find an english translation with the same meaning as the original text.
Shintoism, based on what I remember, used to be the original japanese religion with thunder gods and rain gods etc but when buddhism spread to japan there were parts of shitoism that stayed its own religion and other parts that combined with buddhism. I don't think there's a lot of traditional shinto followers anymore.
Very interesting stuff. I'll have to look up taoism some time. I'm messianic Jewish myself, but I like to read up on other faiths so that I can understand where other people are coming from if I end up discussing religion with someone.
I don't think there's a lot of traditional shinto followers anymore.
From what I understand, it's a mostly dead religion now, but it's influences on Japanese culture are still plain to see and it was thriving as recently as WWII.
This kind of thing just baffles me. I grew up southern baptist and still asked my mom pre-middle school who was the bride/groom if two men married each other. I just figured people could marry each other. My mom(she's the most liberal member of that age group and older, but still has her issues) just told me "neither, they'd both be grooms". How can you ever even not think it was a thing?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just thought it wasn't done, not that I thought there was anything wrong with it, I simply thought that just wasn't how it worked. I also didn't know what sex was until I was 12, I thought it was just naked kissing and it was something you HAD to do if you wanted kids. Didnt understand sexual attraction at that age either.
I grew up in a liberal part of SoCal and didn't know it was a thing until I learned about it on the internet as a teenager. It just never came up in conversation. Was born in the late 90s.
Kered13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids didn't call each other gay where you grew up?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it was a bad word but didn't know what it meant. Same with fuck.
Lington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's less unusual than not understanding breast feeding. If you grow up in a conservative family like hers, the thought of homosexuality probably just never crosses your mind because it doesn't come up at all in your life.
Another weird thing was that my mother (born in the 50s) thought oral sex was only something gay men and lesbians did. When her first husband tried to go down on her she kicked him in the face and called him a queer.
Me too honestly, it came up because she insisted that was how I got strep throat (I didn't even have strep, it was tonsillitis)
ethlian ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:55:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't until I was like 14 too bad mom I still bang girls
LGBLTBBQ ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:32:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, I had no clue about it until at some point someone pretty much accused me of being gay.
I'd never thought about girls in any kind of romantic or sexual way before that point. But after being like what the fuck, why would someone think that about me, I started to think about it a bit.
Well whattaya know, turns out I was gay as shit. The fact that I started puberty later than most (around 14-15 which was a bit after the "you're a total dyke" situation occurred) probably had to do with it too. I had "crushes" on guys before because I thought I was supposed to. I was definitely never nearly as into them as all my friends seemed to be into theirs... then suddenly a little into high school all these girls were making me mighty uncomfortable.
You realize that someone who's raised under a rock (ie lots of super churchy parents do this) will have no clue about sexuality and reproduction. All she knew was sex felt good. If you didn't know that you'd get pregnant (or get someone pregnant) you'd probably end up in the same boat.
My parents grew up in a small Mexican community. When I first brought home my Vietnamese friend they told me not to date hee because then I won't be able to have babies...
Probably. That and my mother isn't used to having non Mexicans around. She critisized me when I brought my friends (I tend to get along very well with the Asian community in my high school) over to hangout
That reminds me of a guy I worked with once. I was in college working a full time job in a mailroom and there was a kid about the same age as me working there too (we were probably 21 or 22). He was so sheltered. In fact, I had never met anyone so unknowingly dumb in my life. At one point, he asked me what breed of chicken lives under water. I was so confused until I realized he thought there was a breed of underwater chicken because of the Starkist Tuna "Chicken of the Sea" slogan.
Anyway, one day at lunch he sheepishly asks me if I can answer a question. I said sure and he asked "what do boobs look like?". I wasn't super shocked (like I said, he was very sheltered) until I realized he had no idea women had nipples. After asking him what he thought they looked like and having him describe basically a mound of flesh, I had to teach him about nipples.
I sometimes wonder what happened to him. He was so naive and knew very little about anything. He got the job because his family went to church with the owners of the business. Poor kid.
drivec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone in my neighborhood got married without understanding "sleeping with someone" didn't literally mean falling asleep next to them. Groom gets undressed and ready for the act, but she goes into shock. She locked herself in the bathroom while crying until her dad came to calm her down.
Another person I knew from high school had no idea the sex is how babies are formed, let alone had any idea that condoms existed. Yeah, she got pregnant right out of high school.
We really need to do comprehensive sex-ed in Utah instead of simply saying "don't have sex until you are married." It blows my mind that so many people don't understand how their bodies work.
My mother-in-law also had this belief; however, it was due to her being the oldest and her mother not breastfeeding due to injury. As a child, my wife's grandmother was severely burned and lost the ability to do so as a result.
If you don't teach your daughter about sex, some boy will.
Fwish11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother was never told about menstruation before getting her period for the first time. The worst part is that she was Jewish, so when she told her mom, she got slapped. (The tradition is that your mother is supposed to slap you across the face after you get your first period.)
My sister tells the story of a co-worker's batchelorette party in Houston in the 1980's. These gatherings can get pretty ribald and at this one they were playing a variation of Pin the Tail on the Donkey that involved Pinning the D*** on the Hunk. One of the attendees, another co-worker of the bride-to-be, was a Pakistani girl aged about 19....and she had no idea what the game was about.
I think it isn't uncommon for parents to not talk about sex with their kids but I mean, school? Friends? Did she never ask questions? Was everyone just as clueless as each other?
It baffles me that she didn't find out one way or another. I found out from reading library books because puberty made me interested. Parents didn't talk about it and the school did an okay job albeit late, but didn't satisfy me.
Went to Catholic school most of my life. Was sheltered and lied to which caused incredible disillusionment about the reality around me. Learned pretty much everything I know from watching massive quantities of porn and asking my partners where they want me to put my hands. I'm still not entirely sure how girls pee.
Apparently breastfeeding was not very popular from the 1930s to about the 1970s due to the invention of baby formula. It was considered superior to breast milk. You know. Cuz a dude made it.
I'm not a doctor either... one day I was talking to my SIL telling her that the night before I had the private body part talk with my 4-5 yr old daughter. She chastised me telling me my daughter was too young for that talk and I should wait until she was my nieces age... my niece was 16 and pregnant and later when I talked to her she told me her mom told her babies come out of your rectum.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my Mum had a friend that went through this same thing. She was pregnant at 15 or 16 (1960's) and had absolutely no idea about what would happen, apparently she didn't even know where the baby comes out. She thought that it came out her belly-button.
There was one or two more things but I can't remember what they were, just minor misconceptions that she had.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a Christian school without sex Ed. Didn't have "the talk" and still figured out what everything was meant for. I guess common knowledge isn't common.
My first husband didn't want me to breastfeed because he thought the breast mass was just milk and once the baby drank that, I'd have no boobs left. He also thought I would have to have a hole poked into them to let the milk out:(
Lady had a broken jaw. She comes in after 2 weeks with an open mandible fracture. Referred her to the hospital for immediate surgery. She never went bc it "doesn't bother her and she'll see if it gets better".
[deleted] ยท 5214 points ยท Posted at 21:23:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2392 points ยท Posted at 21:40:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah without the shitty state of the United States Healthcare system the world would never have breaking bad!
HEALTH BANKRUPTCY! If you get sick you could lose everything. People will ignore a minor health issue until it gets really bad and expensive.
The US needs Medicare for all. There's literally no good reason for the health care industry to be for profit. Not Amy reason other than all the profit
Or your dying. I've lost 4 friends in 2 years to cancer. No health insurance. They went to the ER when the pain got bad enough. Stage 4. Dead in a month.
[deleted] ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 04:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The healthcare system doesn't treat you any better if you have insurance.
I do believe people with insurance (which should be most people) tend to visit a doctor more regularly, or at least don't forgo treatment as much. This is why having everyone automatically covered with universal healthcare prevents certain things go from "eh, it kinda hurts but its probably not serious" to "I'm gonig to die because that little thing was actually fatal if it wasn't caught within a month".
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:52:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the VA was supposed to be pretty bad and the US is always talking about how the veterans are getting screwed over?
Though looking it up, it seems like the VA is somehow simultaneously mismanaged and underfunded and still providing just as good care as private providers, according to a recent review
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having said that, patient education goes a long way towards understanding of what is an emergency or not. Having no health care expenses to worry about, I have no hesitance to seek help when I am troubled by something that seems significant to me.
This. This is why the NHS is so good, not because it's free, but because it gives you great advice on what requires home medication, a call to 111 (non-emergency), or 999.
The website is full of info on symptoms, medication, diagnosis process, all of it. I work with a lot of people with various disabilities and when I have to research it's the go-to reference
Not anymore. I haven't been since my insurance was raped by O'care. I own a small biz and I buy my own coverage and I have NO SUBSIDY. It went from $186/month to $314, my deductible went through the roof (and everything else dropped, but not in a good way), and if I actually GO to the Dr., I just have to have the insurance co's "negotiated rate". So it's like getting a discount, but copay visits are a thing of the past.
I realized how much cheaper it is to keep a few Z-paks bought from the web for the once every 12-24 month cold that might become an upper-resp. infection than to actually "use" my insurance.
I believe Virginia is one of the states that rejected the medicaid expansion with the ACA and subsidies. So you may have qualified for financial help, but your state's leaders decided to forgo that help.
As I mentioned earlier, VA and most red states rejected this federal help even though it wouldn't cost them more than 10% of the cost, max (and that's in a few years from now). So if you qualified for it, it is not the ACA that is to blame, but the Republicans running your state.
Va isn't a red state. I work all day and my wife does. There is no state currently where we would qualify for help but really need it (to just fkn cost less). Middle class enough to "just take it".
I say "we" because, as topical as this is for me.... adding my wife to the ticket and jumping from Anthem to Aetna. As I canceled their policy last week, they asked the normal "why's" that you may expect. Then, they told me that what I was moving to (plan wise) was not apples-to-apples with their plan (though it was), or I was lying about a subsidy. I didn't even know what to tell the Anthem rep. Yeah buddy, you got me.... going through the painful process of switching providers to pay more/get less, that's what I'm after...
I'm not a "red or blue" guy period. My insurance cost has soared while becoming unusable for anything non-life threatening. There is no reason for me to support this system or to have-supported it.
I feel ya. This is why we need universal healthcare in the USA. Cut out the people skimming of the top, charging outrageous prices and providing poor services. Insurance companies exist to make a profit . . . if everyone had medicaid it would be cheaper and instead of paying what you pay for insurance now, you'd pay a bit less than that but in taxes instead. Or significantly less depending on how the costs are worked out.
Hey, I'm so sorry that you got hit so hard by Obama Care - that fucking sucks! But I just wanted to chip in that there are so many people who benefit greatly from the package. The extra money you spend every month may very well be saving someone's life
I haven't tested it out (not seriously ill or dying) but ACA/Obamacare should have no limit once the out-of-pocket maximum is met. Don't know how much that is the case. Doesn't matter once it's repealed. High premiums I know but that along with no pre-existing disappearing will be a huge backwards step.
On the other hand, I caught mine early and have been cancer-free for 2 years because I get regular checkups. Hardly any treatment needed either (2 surgeries). It makes a huge difference, as I'm sure you know.
I always got regular checks living in Canada, because why not? Kept the habit when I moved down to the states, but it's such a pain in the ass even with company healthcare. Fuck this stupid system.
newbris ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:34:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow...that really is bad. That must be so awful.
I will explain my experience but hopefully this doesn't sound like a gloat because just want to show other ways are possible.
I had symptoms a few weeks ago that could be caused by cancer or something trivial.
To be sure I went to the GP and she got my blood test organised immediately after the appointment...checking for worst case cancer right through to the trivial cause. Blood test clinic was professional, friendly, and no waiting.
After the blood test I had to cross the road and get an X-ray...professional, no waiting, friendly, all 5 mins walk from home....couldn't have asked for better.
The tests and scans were analysed by lunch time same day and the GP rang me just after lunch and told me all was good. All from me booking online the night before and visiting that morning.
Total cost $37 thanks to public health system. Australia. No claims, no insurance involved, almost no paperwork, just showed my public health care card.
When I was growing up the media always needled into your head "the earlier you catch cancer the better your odds." As I've gotten older I realize it's not that simple. Maybe healthcare was cheaper in the 90's. Also I don't get doctors who act like patients are wasting their time while charging 150 bucks for a 10 minute visit. It's the insurance but it's also the high costs. They're 50% of the problem people face.
Can confirm, medical bankruptcy is a thing. I was in an accident out of nowhere while working for a university - nine broken bones and a brain injury. Hospital bills, medical loans for rehabilitation and further surgeries has left me out of work and financially fucked. The US healthcare system is so fucking shitty I don't even know where to start.
Hell, I just saw on imgur today, one guy said a friend of his was all for getting rid of Obamacare, because he gets his health insurance from Affordable Care...
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:03:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all for universal healthcare, but I'm not for paying an extra penalty if I'm not signed up for it. Right now it is required that you purchase health insurance to be a student at my university. Tuition runs you about 4k each semester, and then the health insurance runs you another 2k... each semester. The health insurance, by itself is half as expensive as going to school at all.
The AFA did less to actually get people insurance, and more to fuck over those people who already had trouble affording it.
[those are in-state costs at a rural school, i know the prices are low]
They can make those decisions and suffer for them. I only feel bad for those struggling to get it but can't. I get wrecked by insurance every month but i'll be damned if a croak from some horseshit that could have been addressed early.
paganize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A factoid for you.
In the flyover states, there is very little, if any, competition between offerings. so the basic costs in rural areas is higher than in Urban areas. And while the Cost of living in rural areas is much lower, so is the average income.
For the rural people who make too much money to get it free but aren't middle-middle class+, Obamacare is a curse.
No, Obamacare is bad because it has more than doubled my premiums, given me a deductible in the thousands and higher copays while I get literally nothing for the extra cost.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:07:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone I know who couldn't afford insurance before ACA still doesn't have it because it's still very expensive.
The only difference for me is that I now pay literally thousands of additional dollars I can't afford to get nothing in return. I'm getting the same coverage I had 5 years ago but it used to cost me hundreds of dollars, I'm paying roughly 10 x as much overall but not getting any additional benefit for my additional payments.
I don't give a duck about data points, I just know my coverage is ruined and I can no longer afford the treatment I need that I could afford pre ACA. And that's why this short sighted, ill advised law sucks, it has nothing to do with anyone being black & only a complete idiot would bring race into it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you thought about moving to a state where there's better laws? Like a nice blue one?
My state's pretty blue but I'm not sure how that would reverse the effects of an ill-advised, poorly planned federal law that ruined my healthcare.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VT has all sorts of stuff to help with it. Without the state rebates my monthly bill would be like $500, but with it it's $80. Doesn't help much with the price of prescriptions--I hit my $2k deductible every year.
Diannika ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:06:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, obamacare is bad because 1) its not actually affordable and 2) how does it deal with people who cant afford insurance but cant get on state insurance for some reason? Ooooh they are too poor for healthcare, lets FINE THEM
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pay 80 bucks and I make a decent living. Do these people just live in bad states?
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
80 bucks for how many people how often?
also, 80 bucks is a lot of money sometimes. you make a decent living (not sure what that means to you, but from context it means 80 bucks isnt much to you) but some people survive paycheck to paycheck. Adding another monthly (or biweekly, or whatever it ends up being) bill on top of that means that maybe their kids cant have fresh vegetables anymore, or has to substitute part of the milk/soymilk/whatever that their kids drink for nesquick (since its much cheaper if you make it with water and is fortified with nutrients). or if the kid is older, maybe now they only get to drink water most of the time, so that their food doesnt have to change too much. Maybe the parents one (or if they are lucky, 2) meals a day get skimpier.
National Health Service... the British health system. I'm surprised you havent heard about it, most of us Brits in Reddit (rightfully!) Have a bit of a boner for it.
Haaaarry ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:09:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
most of us Brits (rightfully!) Have a bit of a boner for it.
FTFY. Vast majority of people are very passionate about the NHS, don't think I know anyone against it.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:52:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:55:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also wasted my vote on a third party.
Ah well, in Australia, I think our systems better than the NHS. We're getting a bunch of ex-pat UK doctors as you can just go straight to working in our hospitals.
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:14:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, ours could be better, but everyone, rich or poor, in a life threatening situation, when the really need the care, will go to our public system. You only pay for convenience in private. You pay for the free cost by waiting in public (nowhere near as long as you wait in the UK).
They don't. The government makes the cuts without us voting for them to happen. Majority of the public, if not all, are in favour of more funding to the NHS. One of the main arguments for Brexit (falsely) was that were would be ยฃ300 million more a week to spend on the NHS.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There has been strikes but the issue is that being a national health service, unfortunately the doctors and nurses are demonised for not bowing to the governments pressures. The biggest strike last year was the Junior doctors strikes and although there was zero risk to patients being seen the media somehow made it that way. This was due to increasing hours and cutting junior doctors pay (even though they had not asked for a raise.. just cutting the agreed contract). I feel like most of the UK agree that Jeremy Hunt is the definition of his rhyming slang.
It varies depending on urgency, availability of staff (for operations) and you get prioritised. The area you live in can also play a part because of the doctor - patient ratio.
I've only ever had minor procedures (related to kidney stones) and the emergency one was done and dusted within a few hours of presenting at A&E and the actual kidney stone removal was scheduled for a few weeks later (and happened on time). The hospital was also very accommodating and gave me the earliest possible op time so I would spend the least amount of time separated from my breastfed baby.
GP appointments can be tricky sometimes but, again, it varies. Sometimes they won't have an available appointment for a week or so, sometimes you can get one the next day. Children tend to be seen pretty quickly and anyone can ask for an urgent appointment if something serious crops up.
National Health Service. As an American I can only look on with envy.
In most other first world nations there's literally zero reason to go without healthcare. Most things are paid for by your taxes, no need to go bankrupt in order to put a cast on.
LeftZer0 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reporting from Brazil, we have free healthcare for those who need it and relatively cheap health plans for those who can afford it (full coverage, no copay, anything that can be medically backed is done no questions).
Yes, but NOT unlimited profits for corporations. This is what drives decision, policy and propaganda in the USA. You can see it here in comments, misinformation and falsehoods that have created a delusion in the American mindset about even considering the possibility that the United States could have a kick ass system for everyone IF it was prioritized over profits. Fuck it is disheartening hearing people argue and vote against their own best interests. But I have to give the ruling class credit for pulling it off. Impressive the scale and depth of the delusional mindset can be with misinformation and single issue politics combined with this new shift of post-truth politics. Wtf. That is just lying!
Our current goverment is trying to kill the NHS. Threads like this terrify me.
[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 22:25:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trade off is that the NHS is stretched to absolute breaking point. I think it was just yesterday or even today that I was reading some (unsurprising at this point) article about patients starving to death or dying in corridors having been forgotten about for 48 hours or whatever. It's possibly the largest slice of the government spending pie chart too, total money pit.
AmyXBlue ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:39:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only hear those stories from Americans about why we shouldn't have universal health care and never from countries that have it. Besides its not like people aren't dying over here all the time for lack of health care.
WolfMack ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:00:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you are wrong. stop spreading your right wing propaganda.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explain why I'm wrong or what is 'right wing' about what I said. Note that one of the two articles I linked is from that notorious right-wing rag called The Guardian.
WolfMack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a lot more people die every year because of untreated conditions than deaths caused by poor care/understaffed hospitals. I
work for a US insurance company... the health system is garbage
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why that falsifies anything I've said.
WolfMack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
youre just wrong about your opinions regarding universal healthcare. that's all
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you imagine my opinion is? I haven't actually given one. I may not even have a well-defined one. Just saying, it's not all roses.
I would be interested to see the article stating "patients starving to death or dying in the corridors in corridors". I can't believe this is true in the slightest. The NHS is stretched pretty thin by first world standards but this is the UK not rural Afghanistan.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not shocked if it's true, there's been similar articles coming out for years now. Another thing is that my mother is a nurse and recently she went to hand in her notice for retirement because her already tough hours were about to be increased. She said this brought her manager to the verge of tears because of other staff doing the same and not knowing how they would find the staff to replace her. So after her manager beggin her, she's ended up staying for a few more months. It sounds like a right shitstorm in our hospitals at the moment.
Haaaarry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is, the problem is the government is refusing to give good enough incentive for Doctors to stay here. One of my friends is training to become a Doctor and plans to move to another country when he's finished, largely because of pay etc. It's a shame, but honestly the NHS seems like it needs massive reforms and rebuilding top to bottom, supposedly it is massively inefficient.
This is by design. The UK government is systematically defunding it, stretching it to the breaking point in order to propose the corporate privatization of healthcare like the American system, where insurance companies are racketeers charging exorbitant fees for basic treatment and healthcare becomes a matter of individual competitiveness rather than a government-managed, mandated right.
I read something similar to this recently. The Tories are purposefully pushing the NHS to the brink of self destruction for the purpose of creating an attitude towards universal healthcare in the UK as unattainable and unrealistic.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does need either reforming or scrapping but I point the finger partly at us (ordinary citizens) too for a lifetime of stupid choices that end up needing hospital treatment in the first place. We're obese, we smoke, we drink, and we're sedentary, which sounds like a recipe for a stretched NHS to me.
Although, poor care can't be ruled out a lot of these deaths are apparently due the illness they are suffering from or pre-existing conditions as opposed to poor care.
"The ONS says that the figures donโt โprovide enough information to link the deaths to poor care, either in the hospital or in the care home. It is not possible to determine from these figures how or where the condition originated.
It also points out that the malnourishment or dehydration might be linked to a condition that affected the patientโs digestion, such as cancer in the digestive system; or โthe deceased may have been malnourished before they went into hospital".
Saying that, the NHS is still under a great deal of strain and poor care is definitely a rising issue as the doctors and nurses are spread increasingly thin. The NHS simply does't have the budget.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes that site does make sense. Maybe the starvation thing is media bullshit. Although if patients are being forgotten about due to the staff's attention having to be spread too thin (which sounds accurate at this point), some avoidable dehydration deaths in particular sound like a likely consequence.
It's just underfunded - it's what happens when you vote in a right-wing government.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't look very under-funded to me, there's only one thing that gets funded more (pensions) and that's not funded by very much more (20% vs. 18%). I reckon the real problem is that as a nation we live like pigs, which means endless billions having to be spent on treating avoidable illnesses.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS Healthcare as a % of GDP is well below countries with a similar standard and breadth of care. You'll also note that the proportion is going up for most developed countries as past population growth catches up to us and it is going up for less developed countries as healthcare improves. Since we have had a conservative government this percentage is trending down in the UK. This article is out of date and doesn't fully show the trend I was looking for but I'm feeling lazy and it gives the general picture of what the conservatives have planned. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34586871.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not understanding something here then...
The % of GDP spent on healthcare in 2014 was 17.1% in the US, 9.1% in the UK. The GDP in 2014 was $17,393 bn in the US, and $2,998 bn in the UK. The population in 2014 was 318.9 million in the US, and 64.1 million in the UK.
This works out to an amount spent per person of about $9,326 in the US and $4,256 in the UK.
Why are so many Americans envious of the UK system? It sounds like they're cared for better based on those calculations.
I'm going to put a disclaimer here that the following is based on the situation a couple of years ago and I don't have time to check if it is still true or give you sources so feel free to fact-check me.
In the US the standard of care (more time spent with patients, shorter waiting lists, high-tech equipment and that type of thing) is better, for those with the money to access the system. However, the way that insurance normally works means you will pay individually for everything (up to a cap each year), in addition to paying more than UK citizens, on average, just for the insurance itself. Better jobs mean better insurance so typically the richest people with the best jobs (who could actually best afford to pay for their healthcare) are the ones who don't pay anything extra when they need treatment and the minimum wage workers will have to pay a large chunk themselves if they have an emergency. (It is also inflated a bit by the prevalence of lawsuits in the US.) The US is one of the world leaders in healthcare, but it's not readily available for a big chunk of the population.
Outcomes are actually better in the UK when looking at the overall population because it is free to the individual so people do not put off going to the doctor and allow injury/disease/illness to develop to the stage where treatment is difficult and expensive. Things like collective bargaining in the NHS and NICE (or whatever the new name is) are also important in making the UK system much more efficient. The US is a bit of a special case though due to the massive inequality in access to the top-tier treatment. Better comparisons are Western European countries with a national insurance system - generally the NHS performs worse but is massively cheaper so if we decide we want it to be better then giving them more money would seem to be a better option than rearranging what is objectively a very efficient system.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. OK. That does sound plausible, however... then I went googling and found this 'worldlifeexpectancy.com' webpage that claims to be comparing WHO data from 2014 on the top 10 causes of death in the UK and the US. They have calculated that, if the UK population was scaled up to match the larger US population, then 1.52 million people would've died from these illnesses in the UK, compared to 1.32 million that died in the US (which for context were 75% of overall US deaths that year).
So... the death rate from the top 10 causes, all of which are illnesses, was roughly 15% higher in the UK in 2014... meaning that for all its inequality, outcomes in the US are actually better when looking at the overall population?
The source you have looked at is not looking at medical outcomes but at causes of death. What you really need is a comparison from after someone has already got a specific injury or illness what happens in each country. I found the following from 2011 but it is based on overall mortality https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3147241/.
The statistics you have there are interesting as a comparison of causes of death, but the different total only shows that a higher proportion of the deaths in the UK are related to the top 10 causes than in the US. A good example of why this is not really relevant is looking at flu and pneumonia. The UK is a cold and wet country with a lot of old houses, a high population density and a high proportion of people living in urban areas. This means a much higher proportion of people die due to this sort of illness. It is not related to the standard of medical care.
I don't care. I like what I have and I want to keep it. If we can do the single payer thing and I can keep my private insurance I'm down.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't act like people don't have to wait for specialists in America. There are only so many of them. In my large city, I had to wait months to see a neurologist for constant headaches because there are only 3 of them here. My friend had to wait 6 weeks for a gastro consult. The wait times depend on the number of available doctors regardless of where you live.
It's fine for me. I'm down to make shit better for others but not at my expense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh by all means. I mean, who would want to be slightly inconvenienced so that everyone else could have their lives improve? That's not the American way.
I'll pay more in taxes so they don't die in the street but I'm not going to fucking decrease my quality of care so we all have to wait a month to see a specialist.
Yeah and I don't mind paying for that. But I do not want to be forced onto a government plan. Let me keep my private insurance so I can see a specialist whenever I damn well please because I can afford it.
Not everyone has that $50. That's something I didn't understand until circumstances forced me to leave the work force and saddled me with thousands of dollars of medical bills.
The general system in Canada is called Medicare. You access it and are covered with Provincial health insurance. In Ontario we have OHIP, which is funded in part Federally and part * payroll deductions income tax and payroll tax on employers.
jb32647 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:15:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not Free, universal. If it was free you wouldn't have to pay taxes if you weren't sick.
ImAzura ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except you would have to pay taxes if you're not sick and you didn't have universal health care.
Some countries put their money towards bettering their country, some put it towards their defense, end of the day you're still paying taxes.
If we didn't have Universal Health Care in Canada, I'd still be paying taxes, the few dollars a year I'd contribute to universal health care would just end up going towards other things.
LeftZer0 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There isn't a cost associated with using the Healthcare provided, so "free" isn't wrong.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ImAzura ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:04:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you actually read what he wrote rather than take a part of what he said out of control text, you'd see he meant there's no reason to have anything not treated while under the NHS.
What do you mean worse private health care? I had work insurance for 5 years and used it a couple times, it was amazing! Treated so quickly and efficiently after being referred by the NHS.
I have BUPA too and it's pretty limited compared to private healthcare in other countries. Here it's complimentary for specialist treatments, other places it's for your whole medical care, GP & emergency.
I've had care with both BUPA and the NHS and the quality of care was comparable for me, BUPA just happened quicker and the hospitals were decorated all fancy. I kinda prefer the informal care of NHS staff though, they'll get more emotionally involved, whereas bupa/spire/Nuffield people always seem a bit more emotionally at arms length.
I don't really think it is pretty shit. I mean, I've had multiple surgeries on the NHS that were done well, they've saved my life, they tried their best to save my mother's life.
I think we're just told the NHS is shit, when really doctors are just human, supply never perfectly meets demand and tabloids lap that shit up.
It's underfunded for sure, and I really feel for those on the frontline, It could be better, but "pretty shit" is a huge disservice for an utterly amazing service that we all owe so much to.
I didnt have insurance for most of my adult life; I always took the "I'll just see if it gets better" route.
Now I have great insurance, but I still never go to the doctor because I don't understand when its appropriate to see a doctor and when its not.
rumborak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I moved to the US, I was always amazed at the number of people with "bad knees" at young age (like, in the 30s). I have been wondering whether the reluctance to go to a doctor is one of the reasons.
Yep. I've broken every finger on both hands, held wounds together with superglue, used a sheet as a sling, and burned warts off with a bolt heated up with a blowtorch. Being poor fucking sucked haha.
Gwuc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The American system is full of people who are financially forced to be cheap, which ends up costing everyone more money in the long run.
Not myself but my brother was in the same boat when we were living in the USA. He was sick all the time and it was either $100 at urgent care + the prescription price, or food at one point. :(
I got arthritis in my teens, some weird rare medical condition i cant spell and i spent 10 years destroying my joints. Now i need surgery but the local doctor is a hillbilly.
Look at Mr./Ms. Fancy over here with their stitching. Lol. Gauze and Superglue were my friends. I have some scars that are probably a lot bigger than necessary.
If healthcare treatment is gunna stay this expensive and out of reach for most Americans I'd say this should be taught in schools (along with how to do taxes and shit cause fuck having to learn that when I became an adult that should be taught to us before we're an adult! Especially one that doesn't like asking for help)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't afford insurance before and now I'm just forced to pay for insurance I still can't afford to use. With a $6000 deductible I sure as shit won't be going to the doctor anytime soon.
My teeth are bad and my head hurts. Being poor sucks when you are young in the long run.
Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a car accident a couple months back in a company vehicle. My dad owns the company and I was borrowing a truck while mine was out of commission. I had some minor injuries in the accident at the time. Bruising, my knee got jammed into the trailer brake booster real good, and a dull ache from something right down the center of my right leg. I declined treatment at the scene, figuring I had just gotten myself into enough debt without the ambulance ride, and with the adrenaline I didn't think anything was wrong anyway. Woke up the next morning feeling like hell. Seatbelt bruise, random pain, etc. Knee bruise appeared in a couple days. I had a limp, I just figured it was my knee. About a week later I realized there was a pain in my right leg every time I sat for an extended period, like longer car rides or playing video games. I also now need to pop my hip fairly regularly to keep it from hurting. The real kicker is I found out today I was covered under the commercial policy as the business is liable for injury to occupants of the vehicle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I'm currently juggling legal fees, other accident related debt, all the while trying to maintain my existence as a college student. As I'm laying on my stomach my hip hurts a little bit right now. It's on the list of stuff I got to do, but it's a decent way down. I gotta get to the eye doctor at some point because these contacts are way overdue for replacement. My financial situation is entirely ruined for the time being. I know this isn't something that should be pushed off, but I don't exactly have another option right now. Also I'm not entirely sure how to explain to my GP that I was injured in an accident in November and am just now seeking treatment.
glberns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this before the ACA (Obamacare)? If so, you're lucky it was covered. Insurance usually wouldn't cover preexisting conditions pre-ACA.
ready999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand that you were poor but how did you kept getting hurt like that?
fennesz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I taught myself to (poorly) cauterize wounds when I was young because I knew I would never get insurance. And with Trump in office maybe I'll need to dust off all of those old skills again.
I read stuff like this and thank GOD im Canadian. It's so so so terrible and not fair... like what country does this? It's sick
Figms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha, this reminds me of bringing a note to my PE teacher in middle school after I'd broken my finger failing to catch a basketball. He asked me, well, did I have a doctor's note saying it was broken? I was flabbergasted, like man who goes to a doctor for a broken finger? We wrapped it up in popsicle sticks and medical tape, and now I can bend it really far backward. No harm done.
This is why I love the NHS. No, it's not perfect, but you will be treated no matter what your financial situation. If you're under a certain income threshold or under 19 and in full time education you get your prescriptions for free. If you have to pay for your prescriptions, it's something like ยฃ8.25, no matter what you need.
I see shows like Scrubs and House where you get all these "time-wasters" in, but I tell you what, if I was paying for it, I would have to be on the brink of death to want to go.
Admittedly, I try not to go see a doctor unless I'm in genuinely bad pain/discomfort/whatever. But I can imagine a lot of time wasters ending up in A&E just because it's free.
LadyNemo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here growing up with no insurance and a single income! My mom was basically our nurse for everything - including treating broken bones. She had this giant book that had "Mayo Clinic" written on the cover that she would consult for any illness. I still call her over my PCP whenever I have a medical related question even though I have insurance now.
I feel you there. As a foster kid, the foster parents sometimes would be pretty cavalier about health issues because of the cost. My teeth were all sorts of fucked up due to not going the the dentist for years on end. The one family that finally took me worked out a deal to save money with the dentist that, if there were cavities, instead of drilling and filling they would just pull the tooth with no anesthesia other than Oragel. Other than the times they took me, I hadn't gone to a dentist before so I had nothing to base my experiences against.
I was outright frightened of dentists as I got older, and avoided them like the plague. Reading stories about painful procedures just solidified my views on the subject. It wasn't until I was in my mid 20s that I worked up the courage to go back and found out gas and Novocain were absolute wonder drugs. Unfortunately by that time, my teeth were in such bad shape that I required a ton of expensive reconstructive oral surgery.
Over time with implants and all that, you wouldn't even know that I had any work done at all. I still have nightmares about the pain, and especially the cracking noise as the teeth were pulled, but my views on dentistry have completely changed and I made sure that my two sons have always had the best possible dental care.
You only get one body and putting off a lot of these issues are only costs more in the long run.
[deleted] ยท 2708 points ยท Posted at 22:11:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, as a Canadian this is such a fucked up thought. The health of a citizen should not be a luxury.
Several years ago I went in for appendicitis, came out of no where, and had to get it immediately taken out. The only bill my family paid was for parking.
I live in the US. I was told three years ago that my appendix "looked angry" by a doctor that was treating me for another issue. I guess maybe inflamed or enlarged? Not sure, because my insurance ended with the job I had at the time and I haven't had insurance since then because I can't afford it. I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping it doesn't get angrier.
And to piggyback off of the first comment regarding the woman who left her broken jaw - I currently have a now very incorrectly healed left foot that I broke a few years ago. I didn't have insurance at the time and just left it. It's healed back now but still gives me a lot of pain at times... although the pain of having almost $20,000 in medical debt (which is low compared to a lot of other people I know) from other issues that I had no other choice but to get taken care of is much worse.
I agree, fucking love my bulk billing doctor. Even seeing a pay first specialist I got most the money back in my account the day after. A $400 visit had $340 put back in my account the next day. I could have saved that $60 if I wanted to wait and see a bulk billing specialist.
Yeah, I don't think many other countries use the specific term 'medicare', so I think it was assumed.
Edit: Apparently it's also the pensioner healthcare in the US.
mtled ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's the official name, but "Medicare" is used in English in Quebec to refer to the provincial health insurance plan. It may have once been the name, or it's borrowed from the USA.
In the US, Medicare is the government funded healthcare coverage for people 65 & over (also younger disabled people). People who have it aren't super fond of it, but it's the best coverage available (aside from the Part D coverage gap aka the donut hole).
Obamacare for the most part is terrible. One thing that is awesome about it is that you can get health insurance no matter what state you are in physically, so people with pre-existing conditions can get insured much easier. The problem with Obamacare is that unless you make minimum wage or don't work, it tends to be significantly more expensive to get insured than it was before Obamacare. Basically everyone who is not completely broke has to pick up the slack of those who are. Also, if you don't have insurance you get fined by the IRS for every month you're uninsured unless you are a complete bum and make no money at all, then you're exempt from the fine. I'm all for universal health care but Obamacare is not the answer unless it goes through some changes.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:10:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me know if you still want to pay that 87โฌ/month when your healthcare costs an average closer to 850โฌ/month. We spend around $10k/year on Healthcare per person and that isn't magically going to go down because our corrupt government is negotiating rather than morally corrupt businesses owners. If you are a family of 3 and making $55k/year before taxes would you really think that a new US insurance system is going to take or add to your take home pay. We are hardly the most progressive country as it stands. Maybe after 20 years of a shit system it will get better but there are no guarantees.
alphager ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm paying the maximum amount allowed for health-insurance (8.352โฌ/year) and insure myself, my wife and any amount of kids I have. Included in this health insurance is continued pay in case of illness and preventative care.
I'm very happy with the system. A few years ago, right after the birth of my second child, my 2yo became very sick and needed to spend some time in intensive care and after that some stationary care in the hospital. All in all about a week. I stayed by her side the whole time.
The largest thing I had to worry about was how to get clothes to the hospital. I didn't lose my job (taking care of sick children counts as illness), I didn't lose vacation days (sick days as a concept don't exist in Germany; when you are sick you stay home), I didn't lose money (health insurance paid my salary) and I only had to pay some extras in the hospital (a small charge for my food, parking).
I'm paying the maximum amount allowed for health-insurance (8.352โฌ/year) and insure myself, my wife and any amount of kids I have. Included in this health insurance is continued pay in case of illness and preventative care.
Right but just copy pasting your system over the US healthcare system doesn't make $8847.27/year per family feasible. Especially when it currently costs 2x-3x that much right now. A large reason we spend more as a country is that we utilize cheaper care less(doctors offices, preventative care) and we use expensive care more often(MRIs, x-rays, ER). A US System won't get the cost savings by market utilization shifts on day 1 and we will still have the health costs we have always had but the taxpayers will be covering all of it though a single payer system rather than our existing healthcare system.
I pay closer to $1000 because of my income, but I walked my friend through the sign up process. He has been unemployed for a while and the minimum monthly payment for the lowest tier insurance plan was something like $230.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing the other guys is talking about Germany and not the US
Yeah, the fact that he said he was a student in germany gave it away. I was talking about Obamacare and he responded with what he pays relative to his income and I was pointing out that if he were in the US, he'd be paying more than double what he pays there.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except at no point before saying "$" did you make that clear. Leading the reader to believe you are disagreeing with his particular situation.
Sad thing is its honestly the best we've got and the best we will have for a good long while. With half the Democrats thinking single-payer is too much, and almost the entirety of the Republicans thinking the mere idea comes straight from Satan himself, it's not happening for a long ass time. Not to even mention the tons of people who think "why should I support some injured bum, he can pay his own damn way".
it tends to be significantly more expensive to get insured than it was before Obamacare
I work in market research, primarily for health insurance companies. I have news for you, this has little to do with Obamacare. Prices were increasing like crazy before the ACA existed. As far as the mandate goes, the UK has a mandate too. You can't opt out of paying for the NHS through your taxes there either...
You're so badly informed, and the fact that you're getting upvoted is borderline upsetting. Here's why:
The problem with Obamacare is that unless you make minimum wage or don't work, it tends to be significantly more expensive to get insured than it was before Obamacare
Premium was going up before Obama even took office, much less Obamacare went into effect. Increase in health insurance premium actually slowed down under Obamacare. So no, Obamacare didn't make it "significantly more expensive to get insured." Other factors in the healthcare industry did.
Basically everyone who is not completely broke has to pick up the slack of those who are.
No shit. How do you think insurance, any kind of insurance, actually works? How do you expect insurance companies to make money if they are expected to pay more money than they take in from each insuree? Even under a single-payer system, the tax payers who aren't sick have to cover for tax payers who do get sick.
Also, if you don't have insurance you get fined by the IRS for every month you're uninsured unless you are a complete bum and make no money at all, then you're exempt from the fine.
Listen, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You like people with pre-exisiting conditions getting insured? Then you need individual mandate, otherwise nobody would get insurance until they get sick, and the whole system would fall apart (again, this is how insurance, of any kind, works). You can't just mandate everyone to pay for health insurance, because not everyone can afford it, and unlike car insurance (where you can just ditch your car to avoid paying for insurance), you can't really just stop having health unless you, well, die. So you need reimbursement for the poor.
Keep in mind that a lot of smart people worked on Obamacare, before congress stripped it down to the bare-bone version it is today. It's not perfect, but absolutely not for the reasons you listed.
You can understand my confusion considering my insurance payments sky rocketed shortly after the ACA went into effect. I'm not saying your wrong I'm just hoping you can see why I'd think the ACA had a hand in it. No need to be rude.
suparokr ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't write that much more informative response to your comment, but I've always been confused by people that speak so confidently about something they know nothing about. I mean, if you know that you don't know something, why not preface your comment by saying, "I'm not sure" or "I think"?
The commenter that responded to you might've been "rude", but every you've stated, at worst, convinced 20+ people that Obamacare is "for the most part terrible". I'd feel a bit bad for someone being rude to you, but your comment still stands, meaning you haven't recognized/apologized or stated, to everyone reading your comment, that you're lying, or put lightly, that you are ignorant of any facts or nuances, and that you're simply providing your own anecdote/experience.
This eight here, is why, in Trump's words, "nobody knows exactly what's going on."
The only statement I said that was wrong was that insurance became more expensive because of Obamacare. As the commenter above me pointed out insurance prices rose due to "other factors in the healthcare industry." Everything else that I said is true. My sentiment about Obamacare still stands as it is still not a good system. I'm not worried about someone reading my comment and taking it as fact, because there are a ton of other comments just below mine that correct any falsities and continue the dialogue. I'm getting upvoted because I wasn't completely wrong and a lot of Americans, like myself, are not happy with the system. Some would prefer it to go back to before the ACA, others, like myself, would prefer if the US adopted a system closer to some of the more progressive countries. Really I just don't want my medical insurance to be my most expensive bill each month.
obamacare is a step towards universal care. if we had a progressive president the next step would be a public option which, being cheapest, would drive the economic parasites out of business, getting us universal single payer de facto
but now we are going to repeal obamacare and replace it with nothing, leaving us worse off financially and healthwise
because so many americans are so ignorant about this topic and dont even try to educate themselves
No I can't understand your confusion, because apparently you're tech-competent enough to use reddit, but couldn't be bother to do the 2 minutes of googling it takes to find tens of reputable news sources that all dispute what you were purporting to be everyone's experience with Obamacare, despite the fact that you know you're just extrapolating your own story.
The goal is to get medical coverage for the uninsurable. So to do that, the law forces insurance companies to cover everyone.
This drives up premiums. So to keep them down, you force everyone, healthy or not, wealthy or not, to get insurance.
This is impossible for some people. So as to not exclude them, you expand Medicare coverage.
Why it sucks:
You still have a bunch of private insurance companies skimming 20-50% off the top of all medical expenses, and putting this money in their shareholders' pockets.
You have an obstructionist GOP who blocked medicare expansion in some states, and made sure the media told everyone how "horrible" Obamacare was.
If Clinton had won:
Obamacare would have continued, and gradually people would have gotten used to it, grown to accept it, then started grumbling "Hey, why don't we have a govt funded insurance option, that doesn't skim all that extra money off my health dollar?
Instead:
The GOP has voted to scrap Obamacare. Your newly elected penguin of doom will do something random which will kill the law. Starting this spring, millions of people will find themselves in the pre-Obamacare situation of having no access to affordable healthcare.
TL;DR: Your system sucks, but Obamacare is the best you've ever had. Move to Canada or Australia or anywhere else, really.
Starting this spring, millions of people will find themselves in the pre-Obamacare situation of having no access to affordable healthcare.
And hilariously, people (republicans) that claim ACA made insurance rates go up will be absolutely fucking floored when insurance rates do not go down after repealing ACA.
Here is at least part of the problem (I'm American)
There are a ton of people that like to complain that they cant afford medical insurance and that it is a rip off. However they also like their leases on their brand new cars every three years, their current model I-phone, and eating out 6 days a week. I personally know many people that fall into this category.
Now I will agree with you that there is obviously countless people that cannot actually afford insurance for whatever reason and those people do need help (many states had systems in place even before Obamacare). I would say a large portion of people however don't find the money for insurance simply because they know there is an out and they can just go to the ER and even if they cant afford the treatment they will get it.
Now here is where the real fun happens in our system. If you don't have available money and pretty much live paycheck to paycheck regardless of all your toys then the hospitals will take a settlement for small fractions of what they would hit anyone with insurance for, just so they can get some money out of the deal.
I'm sure people will tell me I'm insensitive among other things however I have a really hard time seeing so many people that make decent money, and even have jobs that have health care refuse to take it just because they cant "afford" it.
There's many things the ER can't do- refill and subsidise ongoing prescriptions for one example. Diagnosing and treating mental health disorders. Perform routine physicals for children and the elderly. Do gynecological exams and STD testing.
There are SO MANY quality of life issues that, left untreated en masse, translate to a less healthy, less productive society. Which is why countries like Canada and the UK are willing to allocate vast swaths of resources to ensuring that it remains a stable institution, no matter how many other awesome things that time and money could be put to work doing.
Sabin10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obamacare would be a great thing if your hospitals weren't marking up every medication, procedure and administrative cost by between 2000 and 10000 percent. If America copied the healthcare system of almost any other country they would be able to provide universal care for everyone at the same cost that they currently spend on Medicare/Medicaid. They might have to give up the hospital boards staffed by several dozen people earning 7 and 8 figure salaries though.
I'm not sure you can buy health insurance outside of the state you physically live in. Even if you could, your network may be unusable (unless you wanted to travel to whatever region your insurance operated in).
Insurance has consistently been more expensive today than in previous years, long before the ACA was passed. It is why we were talking for decades about fixing the system, somehow (though every major effort before the ACA failed).
Subsidies for lower income folks (that aren't covered by Medicare but are buying on the exchanges) come from taxes elsewhere, not from folks paying full price to private health insurance companies, though increased expenses to hospitals are surely passed down as higher prices to insurance companies, which are handed down as higher premiums for insurance buyers.
If you choose not to have insurance, you are generally asking all of those buying insurance to subsidize your choice (unless you have the cash on hand to pay for whatever unforeseen medical emergency may come your way in the future).
What should we do instead? Single Payer system? Medicare for all?
It created a cartel system, and gutted Medicare to pay for Obamacare which left the working poor with nothing. Then they added the penalty, so the veteran hospitals got swarmed with veterans+esp their families and exes trying to get into an already overloaded and backlogged system. I had my own insurance until it cost 6x more for a worse version!
EDIT: Using the blue arrow to disagree, and without contributing anything by commenting. Seriously, call a veteran service officer and ask how the ACA worked against veterans.
To be fair, Obamacare is a shitty fucking solution. It's not universal health-care, it's just a bullshit 'cheaper' insurance provider. The whole system of overcharging for basic shit based on who your insurer is and how much they can squeeze them for continues.
Should've been an Australian-style solution to make the insurers irrelevant... but that would've been fucking impossible. The kind of cunts who hold public health to ransom would've been hiring fucking hitmen if they couldn't buy their way out of that.
But what about the ACA though?! Can we not just get rid of Obamacare and focus on the ACA? Obamacare is anti American since it takes our freedom and liberty, while the ACA gives back to the people.
Yes, I know, same thing. I'm just rephrasing what I've learned on the frontpage today lmao
embigger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, the efforts to repeal it probably won't help things, at least given the costs of doing so, but it's not hard to find dumb shit lying around.
There a lot of problems with it that a layperson should be able to see.
The of idea of having your insurance through your employer as a mandate is totally fucking weird. Is that what we should have on our minds when getting jobs? Is that what employers should have on their minds? It's bizarre.
There are now new taxes on medical devices, pharmaceutical companies (based on market share), and on FSA plans. This will continue to elevate costs of healthcare.
We should not be offering gov't discounts on name brand drugs. Off-Brand only. It's pissing away money and jacking up costs.
We need to stop pussy-footing it and passing weird and arbitrary laws. We should have single payer healthcare. It's shown consistency to be cheaper in other countries, and cover everyone. The only established expense is reducing the quality somewhat. Failing to cover medical expenses is the epitome of creating negative externalities.
Lol, the Trump supporters literally want to drop a trillion dollars on a fucking wall. Probably thinking to line it with archers to defend the evil rapist Mexican invaders.
I hate countrymen sometimes
ywu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:40:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And themselves have no insurance, just leave their broken jaws to heal themselves. We would have Bernie. I am so sad and loosing hope.
A couple billion dollars? That still sounds like a fucking waste of money for a stupid ass idea that won't even be effective. If you really want to get them "not their best, rapists, murders, blah blah yada yuge wall" have the fucking military patrol the border with all the toys they have. Not that I support using the military in the fashion as it's fucking insane, but it'll be leagues more effective than that goddamn wall.
People are already outraged by a wall. First off I don't agree with the wall so lets start there. However the military isn't free and even with their toys I'm sure what you are proposing is a massive undertaking.
The other thing about the military "patrolling" the border is what exactly are they supposed to do if they catch someone trying to sneak in? Shoot them? Send people to try and catch them and send them back? Imprison them? All those things sound a lot more expensive then the wall in the long run.
Seeing interviews with the folks who are already doing border patrol, they desperately want to be allowed to shoot. "Let us do our jobs," is Border Patrol code for, "Let us shoot them."
I see people say this all the time, but I don't believe it. There are parts of the border where there's not even a barbed wire fence. There are areas 30 miles on our side of the line where the cartels operate without fear of law enforcement. A wall isn't a perfect solution, but you can't deny that a well-patrolled barrier of some sort wouldn't cut down on the amount of foot traffic back and forth. A leaky roof is still better than a roof with massive holes in it.
Well maintained barricades are pretty effective. The U.S. has increasingly spent large amounts of money implementing such barricades for the southern border. Although that fact is usually ignored by both sides.
Due to the increased border security and a weaker economy the number of illegal immigrants in this country has actually stabilized.
Which is why the wall is such a colossally stupid proposal. Not only would cheaper barriers be nearly as effective, it's no longer a large enough problem to warrant anything close to the cost.
Mr44Red ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Than they'll just use fucking tunnels
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you honestly think that you just build a wall and forget about it? No, you have the Border Patrol patrol it. Tunnels aren't invisible, they don't go undetected, but the Border Patrol needs some sort of barrier between them and the cartels to patrol safely.
jeez, 100 trillion dollars? who can afford this crap
guto8797 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the media sponsored by the health insurances tells me everywhere where people get basic health needs becomes a communist hell-hole with waiting lines of 100 trillion years and doctors that are really nazi werewolves! And I paid more money with Obamacare even tho the blame is of the insurance companies who saw a perfect opportunity to jack up prices!
And I thought it was bad having to pay for this crazy deductible insurance I have. But a few years back I had hand surgery to repair some tendons I cut after putting my hand through a glass table and the bill came to $40,000, but I only had to pay $5000 which is my deductible. Then to make it even better my son had to have an emergency appendectomy which came to a total of $65,000, but because I already met my deductible I didn't have to pay a dime for that one thankfully.
$5,000 does seem low when you put it into terms like that, but honestly, even $5,000 (along with what you presumably pay per month for insurance) is still pretty shitty to have to pay for an accident or an organ randomly failing.
I am simultaneously incredibly jealous of other countries who have better health systems than the US but also just happy that at least their citizens do get the benefit of simply living a healthy life.
In the grand scheme, especially compared to the full bill of a hospital visit, $5k is pretty minor.
But, for example, I have access to a plan at $250 a month, $6.5k deductible. It's because I'm young, working, and don't get subsidies. Trouble is, if I paid that monthly premium I wouldn't have $6.5k to spend toward anything. The premium + deductible is more than 20% of my annual income. My total net worth liquidated in cash is about what my deductible would be. Literally either choice (insured/uninsured) will probably eventually bankrupt me.
So what's the plan? Go uninsured, of course. At least I get to keep my car to get to work and some money for, ya know, rent and food.
For the record, I like some of the changes the ACA brought, but it fell far short of the single payer system that I want. Health insurance is immoral in my opinion. Healthcare is a right, not a privilege.
I agree with you one hundred and fifty percent. Seriously. That's the reason I go uninsured. I have to eat to live or my health insurance would be pretty useless anyway, so I'll choose groceries over insurance. What else can you do?
The thing is regardless of how you look at it, its not free. Even if the government suddenly became like other countries and the government completely took over healthcare. Do you think your taxes would remain the same?
Doctors aren't going to take paycuts so that everyone can get health insurance and the cost will go down just because the government takes over insurance. The hospitals aren't suddenly going to want less profit either.
So like I said earlier here this is the problem and how people look at it. You will go uninsured because you know that if something happens to you then the hospital has to help you. And since you wont be able to afford it they will either reduce, forgive, or put the bill on payments. You know they wont be able to take your car or any of your possessions (not that I want them to just stating the scenario) so there really isn't a major risk to go uninsured.
However this same factor is what causes the cost of all health insurance plans to be so high. Because everyone is not pitching in their part of the equation, the people that do have health insurance end up paying higher bills and insurance premiums to cover the amount of debt that is forgiven or reduced.
So a few things people often overlook when talking about medical. First off your payments are all tax deductible so that 250$ a month that you would pay isn't actually going to lose you $250 a month probably closer to 150-170 since it is taken out pre-tax. The same would also go for any amount you have to pay in actual medical bills.
Now ill use you as an example here and say since you stated $9500 is over 20% of your income that you likely make around 45k a year. I agree that is an insane amount of money to pay, however you aren't likely to have $9500 every year. In fact more likely is that you will pay your 3k in fees and maybe 1k (which is maybe 2.5k in post-tax money) in visits if you are young and be fine for years. However if something awful was to happen one year and suddenly put you in the hospital with a 130k bill you would still only owe your $9500 max.
Problem is you cant bleed a stone so that 130k bill even if it bankrupted you the hospital would still never see that money and would just pass along the cost to someone's insurance that can afford it. On and on it goes, until there is some risk to people that are uninsured it will just never change. Thing that's awful to think about is what risk could there be? I don't agree with not treating people either.
Of course it's not free. Of course taxes would go up under single payer.
But it addresses the exact problem that you so eloquently wrote about. In a single payer system everyone is covered, everyone is in the pool. It's the ideal health insurance, because the risk is spread as far as possible.
And at that point, taking actual insurance companies out of the middle, there are less shareholders to take a piece of the pie. Hospitals and healthcare providers could actually get paid what they're owed instead of having to forgive debts.
And if we took profit out of healthcare entirely, it only further reduces costs, and money magically appears where once it went into someone's pocket. Of course I realize that's that idea is a bit far out there, but it makes sense to me.
Well lets at least be fair here. I am 100% positive the government can mismanage and misappropriate funds at least as much as the profits that insurance companies make.
However don't you think your taxes would go up at least as much as a couple hundred dollars a month for something like "free" health care? That is of course some of the problem with government run systems they like to borrow the money for other purposes. There is plenty of proof of that.
Besides everyone being in the pool still hardly means that everyone will be paying their fair share.
Ill admit though I wish it was the type of thing government didn't have to get involved in and people just had an amount they could afford for insurance and paid it. I already cringe pretty much every time I look at my taxes and how much I pay, I really am in no hurry to pay more taxes. I am also not a huge fan of our government overseeing our health records. Although this may be a bit tin foil hat type talk.
I really believe in no way will government ever be more efficient at anything then a private business will be. Buisness will always strive to be more efficient for more profits, where government doesn't have to care it can always just tax more to pay the bill. However it may be the only way to make people pay their part.
Even if I agreed that the government could mismanage as much money as an insurance company profits, that doesn't mean it would. Any non-mismanagement is already a win right there.
I started my last post saying of course I know it's not 'free', and yes, I understand taxes would go up. But at the same time, your out of pocket costs go to zero. And this tax would likely be adjusted for income to make it fair. And once again, with every citizen in the pool, costs of the 'insurance' would go down over all. Thus, nationally a net decrease in household healthcare spending.
Finally, I think this is the real difference between our points of view... I trust that the people who make up our government are decent Americans like us, and that the government exists to serve the needs of everyone in the country beyond just keeping an army around. You'd really rather some underpaid 20 something desk jockey at an insurance company see your health records than a bureaucrat in a government office? You trust corporate profit motives to look out for your best interests?
Government does the things that companies won't because they can't make a buck off of it. If we become overtaxed and leave or die young, the government has a serious issue and will fix it, because without us it's nothing. Companies will just move, because they don't need us they just need someone.
JadedCop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:37 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If my taxes went up a couple hundred dollars a month (e.g. the cost of healthcare [$275/mo]) and I didn't have to pay a doctor when I went in I could finally be doing something about this fucking crippling pain I deal with daily. But because ever single procedure requires money I can't afford it. So I sit here, daily, after working 8-10 hours and two hours of travel because I make fuckall money anyway and can't afford to live near where I work.. in pain..
No doubt you'll have an explanation or argument contrary my view point and once upon a time ago I'd banter back but really I just don't have the interest anymore. I'm tired of people arguing back and forth with little reward. Be well.
Sorry to hear you having to suffer because of healthcare costs. And I know there are a lot of people that work their ass off and cant afford healthcare and it is definitely not right.
The older I have got the more jaded I've likely become. I would love for healthcare to cost even $500 a month in taxes if it meant no other bills were needed afterwards. That sounds great and id say sign me up for that.
My thinking of the way it would really go down I guess is more of the same as usual. Working class people get pounded on taxes to pay medical for those who cant bother getting a job, or are complacent doing as little work as possible just to skate by.
Its sad to say this because I really want a world where everyone has access to the best healthcare, however I am also sick of seeing people that make life choices to not improve themselves but still want what everyone else has at the expense of those that do the right thing. I really am so tired of seeing people get 10k tax returns at the end of every year, when they didn't even pay 5k into taxes. When did taxes become income for some people because they have more write offs then they have income?Meanwhile someone with no kids, and a decent middle class job pays 15k in taxes and gets no returns.
I really think we have to either go ahead with government healthcare, or scrap it though. I'm honestly ok with it either way, but we have to go all in or get out. Obamacare far too gutted by the time it became law. I think if we could set up a fair system and require everyone to pay their fair share, we have a chance at it working. But republicans had stripped so many parts of it out for it to pass through that it never really had a chance.
al- ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:51:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The mandatory health insurance in European countries often costs between 15 and 25 % of the income. European salaries are significantly lower than US both compared directly as well as measured relative to cost of living.
In all likeliness you simply don't have your priorities straight.
I never said I was perfect with my expenses, but that doesn't detract from my point.
I would gladly take home less salary if we had universal healthcare. Catastrophic healthcare situations happen, and in Europe it probably won't bankrupt you like it would here.
If I get hurt, I'd pay out of pocket either way up to $6500. My point was that it doesn't matter at that point whether the bill was $6500 or $650000, either way I'm screwed. I'll lose my assets, my home, my car, and subsequently my job. Homeless. So then what good does health insurance in the current market do me? I'd rather keep the $250 a month to stay (relatively) healthy and happy.
thebbman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:00:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We probably have either the same insurance or something very similar. My out of pocket for my appendectomy was also $5000 or so.
I agree! Shattered my collarbone last January - paid 6k out of pocket, for a 3k emergency room visit, and 12k operation. Decided it was a good year for operations, and had another this past December. Would've cost me 22k.FREE
Stuff like this makes me really sad. We live in literally the richest country in the world, how can we be content to let our citizens suffer from easily treatable medical maladies just because of some bullshit system and politics?
I hope your foot gets better and that you get insurance soon.
Unfortunately, there's a very small percentage of folks with vast wealth, and then there's everyone else. The super-wealthy end up with all the power, and sometimes confuse poverty as laziness/stupidity - hence, no empathy for those who suffer.
Thanks! I have a good SO who offers foot massages when it acts up and I'm currently looking for a second job that offers health insurance through the company, so maybe soon!
duraiden ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:58:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told three years ago that my appendix "looked angry"
I really don't understand why some people were/are so against Obama Care, to the point that the Republicans totally ruined it.
I chopped myself in the hand with a very sharp axe a couple of years ago, right in the third knuckle of my indexfinger of my left hand. I completely severed the first interosseous muscle and severely damaged the ligaments and the tendon that straightens the index finger.
All and all it cost me about $150 to fix it, including the pain medication. Healthcare paid by taxes isn't such a bad idea, at least not when you need it. Which is kind of the point I guess. Live as a true society where the weak/poor receives benefits from the strong/rich, or leave everyone fending for themselves.
Obamacare (ACA) in its form now is not perfect...or even great for a lot of people. I was a supporter of it because I do know that even though I don't benefit from it, a lot of other people do.
Single payer is what we really need in this country but we have a lot people with a "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality in this country who have either always had insurance/made enough money to have coverage/simply have not experienced a lot of sickness to the point that they don't really understand (or seem to care to understand) the other side of things.
Unfortunately, a lot of those people are in charge of making the decisions in this country so it leaves the rest of us fending for ourselves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, which is why I said that there are a lot of Americans that have a "pull yourself up by your bootstrap" mentality. I definitely know that we've elected who we have in charge, and I stress to my friends and family every midterm election that that is when they REALLY need to go vote.
Unfortunately, NC has some issues with gerrymandering so it's not quite just on the citizens here responsible for some of the govt. issues we've faced over the past few years, but overall I agree.
And I agree. I'm not anti-ACA. It's helped a lot of people which is great!
My super conservative BIL just recently had a colonoscopy. He waited until he turned 50 (a few weeks after he found out he needed one) because if you're over 50 it doesn't cost you anything thanks to the ACA. He was pretty pissed about getting something for free because of the ACA, but he waited and did it anyway.
If the net result of Obamacare was that an ER visit, including pain meds, resulted in a $150 bill, I'm sure people would be on board.
However, the reality of Obamacare is that for most of us, our premiums have gone up and the cost of services has as well. And ER visit will cost me $500, and that doesn't include... anything. I got a concussion about a year ago and went to the local clinic. They referred me to the ER and while I was driving over, I called my insurance company. Found out that $500 doesn't really cover anything - I would need to pay for imaging and other stuff I don't remember on top of that, so I just turned around and went home.
Part of the problem is that since the Republicans had majority in the House of Representatives, they basically slaughtered the ACA. It didn't become what it was supposed to be.
But even the way it was originally written it wouldn't really be like here in Sweden. But we're such different countries with such different values, so how could it be?
But even the way it was originally written it wouldn't really be like here in Sweden. But we're such different countries with such different values, so how could it be?
Even within the US, there is a huge amount of variance in core values that causes the huge rift we have here. The New York Times did an excellent piece on the urban vs rural divide that explored why Trump won the "flyover states". It's definitely worth a read if you're interested, and as a moderate who has spent most of his life is rural areas and smaller towns, this really struck a chord. I didn't vote Trump, but I can understand why people did, and why they will continue to vote Republican.
By being in majority in the House of Representatives, the Republicans was in a position to block the bill, a position they used to basically extort changes to be made to the proposed bill. Then after ACA was passed in its crippled form, the Republicans keep attacking it in court. This is of course a gross oversimplification, bit that's the jist of it.
Well part of the problem with healthcare paid by taxes is that the government is never as efficient or as competitive as businesses are. So inevitably it will end up costing people more then it would to insure themselves.
The plus side however would be that it would force people to actually have healthcare. Would it really change our situation though? I really am not sure. See the people that cant afford health insurance now are likely already receiving tax breaks due to low income so they wouldn't pay much to get health care.
The middle class however who mostly would already have health insurance would still be paying a majority of the bill. While the upper class would be paying their share as well. This really doesn't sound much different then it does now.
My job ended last month and I'm still between insurance plans. Not having insurance scares the shit outta me, especially last week when I thought I might have strep.
The thing I envy about Canadian healthcare isn't that it's "free," it's that you don't have to opt-in, you just always have it, and it doesn't change based on your job situation or what your employer decides to offer. You never have to worry about picking your own plan when you're unemployed or underemployed, you don't have to worry about coverage dates, you can always go to the doctor or hospital and not worry that's gonna cost an arm and a leg because you don't have a job.
I'm so sorry. It really is a scary thing. I remember losing the job I had insurance through (because of medical issues at the time ironically enough) and I remember not knowing what I was going to do. I've been without it for a few years now and it's gotten less scary. You learn to live with a lot of pain/issues and while I'm not proud of it, I have found myself asking famiy and friends if they have left over antibiotics - I know, I know, you're never supposed to have left overs nor is anyone supposed to take prescription meds from anyone - if I'm afraid I'm getting strep or another illness that they cure.
Fingers crossed though, you'll find a job that will offer it or you can sign up for ACA or medicaid in your state. :)
thankfully, I can still message my doctor and send her pictures when I'm worried about something, and generic medicines aren't that expensive. But if I have a medical emergency, I'm fucked.
Or socialism. Which is apparently somehow worse than having the uninsured experience third world health conditions or face bankruptcy. There's something just fucking wrong with America.
Yup, it's a luxury. I got really sick, (severe iron deficit anemia) and only sought treatment when I turned yellow :/ it got so bad that they sent me to a cancer place to make sure I didn't have leukemia*
To elaborate - I would like coverage through the ACA but I'm in a sweet spot where I can't afford the monthly premiums that they can offer and my state's previous governor cut access to our medicare/medicaid so I'm not in the poverty range to qualify for that either.
It's ultimately cheaper to pay it all at the end of the year through taxes so that's what I do.
For me, yes. I live pretty well within my means already (obviously I have internet but I have the cheapest package available with no cable or phone - roughly 30$ a month in my area). I eat cheap, make my meals at home, my rent is below average for the area I'm in, I own my own car that's really old and price check car insurance every year so I can make sure I get the best deal. I have literally not purchased any clothing item for myself from any big box store off the rack in at least 3 years (unless I had a gift card for a birthday or holiday) - everything I purchase is used from thrift stores or handed down from family or friends who are upgrading.
I already live paycheck to paycheck with very little left over at the end of the month and I get paid once per month from my job so I've become a pro at stretching it. The cheapest plan I qualify for is around 137.00 per month and for someone who is usually left with around 50-90 per month before my next paycheck...yeah. They are.
Last year I paid around 600$ in penalties at tax time for not having insurance (after qualifying tax breaks/work related write offs)That's ultimately a lot cheaper for me.
The medicare expansion was supposed to catch people like him. His state governor decided leaving folks like MythologicalSimian without any coverage was more important than undermining their ideological positions.
Not sure, but in a prior post he/she said, "to elaborate - I would like coverage through the ACA but I'm in a sweet spot where I can't afford the monthly premiums that they can offer and my state's previous governor cut access to our medicare/medicaid so I'm not in the poverty range to qualify for that either."
Not really. Obviously I'd like to have the extra money in my pocket at tax time, but if it's repealed then a lot of good friends and family that have it now will be back to square one.
A lot of those people had pre-existing conditions so even if they can afford insurance on their own, they're going to have a hard time finding a company that will take them.
My mom had a job saving surgery to fix her rotator cuff (she does manual labor so it was very needed in order for her to keep working) that she wouldn't have been able to get done had it not been for her ACA covered insurance.
So, it's really going to suck for a lot of people either way. I'd rather pay the penalty each year just to know that thousands or millions of other people will get the care that they need.
I was under the impression that the ACA was more to help people with preexisting conditions or life threatening conditions who, prior to ACA, couldn't afford insurance. Not relatively healthy Joe blo.
Not sure though, I have mine through my husband's job. That was just what I remember originally thinking.
guto8797 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ACA was also gutted in order to pass the Republican congress. It should've been single payer
I just got done doing a two year saving spree for a sorely needed new wheelchair. You know, something pretty basic for living that basically any other country gives their people for free. We shouldn't have to do shit like this but insurance companies are just too ingrained in our system. It really makes me angry when I think about it, especially because it won't get fixed as long as we have the government that we have.
I am so sorry. My friend who is also without insurance got into a car accident last year and he was calling around asking anyone he knew if they had a relative or simply had a wheelchair they weren't using. When he asked me (even though I know how shitty the US healthcare system is) I was really surprised they hadn't given him one from the hospital. It was like..."okay, you broke your hips and legs...you need to get around...that doesn't come standard??"
I feel you. Went in to the dentist for a cracked cap. Was told I had three other cavities that would probably need root canals. Noped the fuck out because repairing that cap maxed out my insurance. I feel like my mouth is a ticking time bomb now.
Oh god, dental work is atrocious to pay for out of pocket. I haven't been to the dentist in years so I feel ya. I'm sure that's really scary though, knowing you need to get that stuff done. I'm sorry, man. :(
oz6702 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should never happen in a country as wealthy and advanced as the US. This is why we need universal health care.
Had appendicitis back in May. Woke up in excruciating pain, went to quick care first (cause co pay is only $80 there and $150 at the ER), and they forced me to go to the ER. $32,000 bill for the surgery later, I also had a hernia (that I had guessed but was ignoring) that they fixed. But if I hadn't gotten the appendectomy, the damn thing would've killed me. Now it's just the co pay, that I don't pay when I can get away with it, that are killing me.
But if I hadn't had insurance to eat that cost, I don't know that I would've gone. Right now I'm out of work for a herniated disk in my neck, and I'm pretty sure I also have a broken heel, that I'm ignoring.
That's a great thing though! I really wish America didn't have such an outdated view on healthcare. Luckily, where I live there is actually psychiatric and psychology facilities that are local and serve the community on a sliding scale. That's the only way I've been able to get psych treatment I've needed. I'm almost afraid to move because I never know if the city I live in is going to have a similar program.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry. It really does suck when you look at your itemized bill and start seeing "23.00 - acetomenophen" and you're like "cool, at least two hours worth of work for a tylenol."
ehco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddam I don't know how you USAians live like this.
As a Canadian I seriously don't get many Americans feverish approach to socialized health care. You all pay taxes so that infrastructure gets built and government employees get paid. What's another 1 or 2% off of your paycheck to make sure everyone gets to live their life without worrying about going into debt when they have cancer or break a bone. Then again I guess we couldn't have gotten Breaking Bad if you guys had already come around to the idea.
Haha, at least we got Breaking Bad! But seriously, I agree. I'd happily shell out a bit more in taxes just to know that I wouldn't go bankrupt when my angry appendix decides to throw a fit.
On the flip side, I get to pay over $12,000 in annual insurance premiums for a policy that doesn't kick in until we reach $13,000 out of pocket. So I don't have coverage UNTIL I reach $25,000 in medical costs. Lol.
I broke my arm earlier this year. Without insurance it would have been $37,000 to get it treated. Unless you are independently wealthy, what are you supposed to do? People who think health care is not a requirement for a stable society worry me.
I broke my left foot a year ago coming up next month. Same thing, no insurance so left it to heal. Hasn't bothered me in a month or two. Snowed over the weekend, so today I was walking through alot of hard crunchy ice and when I got home this evening, it was swollen and throbbing again sigh
Ugh, I'm dealing with some snow here too now. About 8 inches overnight as of a couple of days ago with a nice crunchy ice layer underneath. My foot is the worst it's been in months because of this.
Broken foot humans unite. :)
iekiko89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dropped a 100 lb Dumbbell on my foot, no insurance. walked it off for 10 week ish. still no idea how bad I fucked it up.
I dropped something on mine as well. I walked it off too and only a couple years later did it start flaring up with pain. I have intermittent pain now, some swelling and it cracks like a bitch when I walk but since it's healed (albeit very badly) it's not too much to deal with.
Good luck with yours and if you ever do get insurance at least try to go and get it imaged. I got mine done during the time I had insurance (Aetna was amazing and paid for not only imaging but for some physical therapy as well) and the doctor just kind of gave me a blank look when he saw the x-ray. He used the word "mangled" a few times and I just said "Well, I didn't have insurance..".
So I feel like I am risking a severe Reddit lashing as I'm not 100% sure of every state, but my understanding of The Affordable Care Act (and my firsthand experience as an unemployed adult who returned to college) is that every state has to either point you in the direction of Insurance scaled to your income or has to have an inbuilt system to help you. For Example, Connecticut has (wait for it)... Connecticare!
Again: I am not certain. However, I strongly suspect that there is insurance you can afford in your state right now, even if you are earning no money. I believe that was one of the things the left went nuts over); social healthcare...
But seriously: before I was able to secure employment that worked around my education my monthly cost was $50, and that was because of the income my wife earned. Had I not been married or had we been a lower income family my cost would have been lower. Please check out your state's version of Obamacare.
And at the risk of overstaying my welcome: please also spend some time over at /r/personalfinance if you're stuck at a low income level. They're not going to point you to mana from heaven, but there is a chance that the folks in that sub can help you get the most mileage out of your money.
Yeah, my last state offered something like that. I think it was called Peachcare in GA. But I'm in NC now and I'm not even close to meeting the income requirements for any assistance here. I make between $300-$500 per month more than the "poverty" requirement for this state. It varies because I'm a contracted worker so I get paid per day that I work and if I miss work, I don't make as much. Some months I might qualify, but I'm not consistently falling within that range so I don't even apply as the paperwork involved and approval time needed for someone to look over my income requirements would likely not be met the very next month if I did get all of my days in.
I'm kind of in a unique position because of that, although I do tend to stay above it even if I miss an entire week or so of work.
Also, thank you for the advice. I do like /r/personalfinance and I've perused some of the topics there that tend to match my own without actually making a post. I've cut down on spending in a lot of ways because of that subreddit, which is awesome!
I'm fairly comfortable living within my means now. I don't miss a lot of the luxuries I used to have when I had insurance through my job, like cable, etc. I'm pretty happy with where I'm living and spend a lot of time doing free things to preoccupy my time. I live in a good place for hiking and biking so I do a lot of that.
I have a house. I have a new car. I had a lapse in insurance for a year from coming off my parents and getting on my wife's work insurance. Didn't get my own because I hadn't been to the doctor in 8 years.
No joke, the day before my insurance through my wife went into effect I had to be rushed to the hospital. $8000 visit. I paid the $150 copay and that's it. I've been getting monthly letters from collection agency's the past 2 years. I have no intention on paying it.
I kind of don't blame you. I mean, I try to pay mine when I can and as much as I can, but I also sometimes get this indignant attitude that I really don't want to pay it. Granted, there is one hospital bill that I have no intention of paying. They aren't working with me on monthly payments at all, and I waited 9 hours for treatment in the ER, nauseous and vomiting profusely the entire time (worried it was my appendix at the time because that was a year after I had been told it was bad) all to leave with a misdiagnosis and literally a single 900 MG tylenol. In my opinion they don't deserve almost $1,600 for that.
Kind of the same reasoning why I'm not paying this one. I'm not some dick who expects free stuff. I called the hospital numerous times trying to workout a payment plan and to get the bill lowered and they showed no interest at all.
Also, I have no idea why they were billing me $8000. It ended up being an anxiety attack. (I never had problems with stress, anxiety, or anything like that - I was just driving to work listening to the radio when it hit, I honestly thought I was having a heart attack.)
So, you know...$8000 for some ativan and probably one test, I have no idea what, I don't remember much of anything that happened once I was at the hospital.
ANXIETY ATTACKS ARE NO JOKE! ...especially when you have no idea that's what's going on. Much more manageable after you know wtf is going on.
That is horrible. Yeah, everyone I know has told me "they have to work with you. THEY HAVE TO!" but the phone calls that I've made to try to work out a payment arrangement with this particular hospital have gotten me nowhere.
The last time I spoke with a rep there he hung up on me after telling him I was currently paying about $300.00 out of pocket per month for other medical bills (I especially love it when there are multiple bills out of the same hospital/care unit for each individual practitioner or department you were treated by... /s) so there's no way I can afford ~$1,500 all at once, but that I would try to do an additional $50.00 per month to them until it was paid. He literally said, "If you don't pay it all upfront we will report this to your credit."
I sighed and said "do it then" and he hung up. They never called back and now it is on my credit. Oh well. What can you do, I guess?
Also, anxiety attacks are horrible. They really can feel like a heart attack and the first one is always the worst for that very reason. I'm so sorry, man. :(
Nozirap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had insurance and I've broken both hands repeatedly for years (sometimes at the same time). Now, I've lost about 20% of the motion I once had, am constantly in pain and can see how badly they've healed now with all the scar tissue. Oh well.
That's horrible. My mom would have been in the same situation with her rotator cuff, in fact she's pretty sure she's torn it again since her surgery. She's trying to get in as quickly as she can to get it fixed a second time in case they do repeal the ACA.
A Doctor once told me that they will remove a completely healthy appendix just for the experience/training. With just a minor suspicion they'll jump on that. He might not wanted to do that per se, but rather that he was indoctrinated with the idea in his training to remove the appendix even with a minor suspicion.
That sounds awful then. I still understand it if you're worried about the bill to be honest, but that definitely sounds like something where I would have bit the bullet and taken the cost.
Americans (*and other countries that do not have nation-wide health coverage) have a strange relationship with healthcare.
I've heard a few people say "Why should I pay for someone else's healthcare? I look after myself."
Then they use their group coverage to pay some bills... sometimes they even get the low deductible plan that's heavily subsidized by their employer. I don't think they know how insurance underwriting works.
They usually then think" I'll get to that when I have to, no sense in me paying taxes now to help that guy with a heart problems so he can help me later". It's a real, fuck you, I'll get/got mine problem.
Kizka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a problem of the american culture of....hyper-individualism if you will. Communism is one extreme but the US is just as extreme, just on the other end. Individualism is good, don't get me wrong. It is good to acknowledge the worth of an individual, not to think only in masses, because in masses people become just numbers. But there is a middle way and the US haven't found it yet.
In my personal opinion, such concentration on the individual can also lead to mental health issues. It is really just my theory and I have no proof of that but I think there could be a relationship between this hyper-individualism and the high number of people shooting up places. If one is brought up in a culture that teaches you that everyone has to look for themselves, that there is basically no structure to rely on, I think that can make one feel very lonely and isolated.
Because the US are a cultural melting pot there is no naturally developed bond between the people. Thus the need for extreme patriotism because there is no natural glue that holds the people together.
Helping other people is seen as charity rather than a duty of everyone in the community (the community being be country).
You pay for someone else's health care because when you need it, they help you pay for yours.
Voluntarily.
Most people who are against nationalized, single payer health care aren't against it because they disagree with the idea of health insurance; they're against it because it's more power and money in the hands of the government (which is not exactly known for using either of those things in desirable ways) and the freedom of choice is taken away from you.
In addition to that, you're forced to pay for things you may not support (non-medically necessary abortions, for example).
Because it's an unfair tax on the sick. I get that. Pretty substancial bill after a month
ALL YOU PAY FOR IS PARKING!!! BE THANKFUL FOR THAT!!! "Unfair tax"... I couldnt shake my head any harder if I tried. I would try, but I don't have insurance.
Well yeah that is because you live under a screwed up system. Here we already pay for healthcare but now we also have to pay for parking, which is a pain in the arse.
the-nub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm sure you never complain about being hungry or thirsty, either. Or about being stuck in traffic. Or about your house, your financial situation, your group of friends, job, relationship, clothes, etc. etc.
Because you know, other people have it worse. You shouldn't complain about what you have.
No, not really... As soon as I start to I realize that yes, many people do have it way worse than I do in just about every aspect of my life. So complaining about it doesn't do anyone any good. And it makes me look like a jackass.
the-nub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you honestly expect me to believe that you never complain? My gosh, you're just the most perfect and humble person ever. I hope we can all one day aspire to be as pure and true as you.
Ever heard the term "happy-go-lucky"? When I first heard it as a kid I asked my mom what it meant. When she told me I aspired to be just that. It's worked out pretty well for me. Maybe you should give it a shot?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a grip caps lock. FYI I've never had to pay because I've never been sick. If I ever did I have more than enough money to pay for it. I'm more concerned for other people who can't afford it but have to pay. I hope you can use your massive imagination and gigantic stores of empathy to figure out whom I'm concerned about.
FYI I've never had to pay because I've never been sick.
Humblebrag
If I ever did I have more than enough money to pay for it.
Wow humblebrag
I'm more concerned for other people who can't afford it but have to pay. I hope you can use your massive imagination and gigantic stores of empathy to figure out whom I'm concerned about.
Yeah, that would be me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry the material you gave me to work with wasn't the best definition of a humblebrag... I certainly wouldn't put it in the dictionary next to it. But there's no reason to say something like that other than to brag about it.
mikeash ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 23:16:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trouble is that half of our voting population is convinced that your story could never have happened, because socialized medicine is horrible, leads to drastic shortages, and the victims citizens who live in such places have to wait months or years for the simplest medical procedures. They may be bankrupted by appendicitis, but they still think they're better off.
Its not as simple as that. The nature of our medical system does provide a marginally better service for those who can afford it. There is more incentive for doctors to succeed in privatized medicine.
I just don't personally think that slightly better medical quality justifies telling a whole bunch of people to go fuck themselves.
mikeash ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:40:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but much of the opposition to socialized medicine isn't based on such careful analysis. A frightening number of people think that our Canadian friend up there would have been told to come back in six months for his emergency appendectomy.
I'm a Canadian living in the U.S. whose life was saved by Canada's healthcare system as a child. If I had a dollar for every idiot who's lectured me about Socialized medical care, I could afford my ACA premiums.
Yeah. When I had to have my appendix out a little under a decade ago, I left the house at 9pm or so and still had it out before the end of the night. Even when long wait times in the emergency room were a pretty common joke in my hometown.
My opposition comes from the fact that I don't want to be forced onto a government system. I don't mind paying for people to have it, but let me keep my private care. I want to pay to see a specialist tomorrow, not in 6 weeks after a referral.
I constantly say this is my issue, and it always gets ignored. Why? I feel like my stance on this is 100% reasonable.
mikeash ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps you're getting ignored because many (most? all?) socialized systems allow people to pay for private care if they wish, and there's no reason our system couldn't include this feature as well, so it's not really a well-founded objection.
No one has told me that. I'm totally down with a public system if I can keep my private care.
mikeash ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool! I totally agree that should remain an option, and there's no reason it can't. Unfortunately, it sometimes seems like there's more misinformation than information out there about how other countries' systems work.
If anyone replies, it's usually some platitude about how no one deserves better care just because they can pay more. I see it like this: if you're getting free care and you aren't dying and all is well, don't worry about the rich guy who can pay and see a specialist tomorrow.
mikeash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess not knowing how other countries actually do things goes both ways here.
Wait, does the ACA prohibit private care? Here in Germany there's both. I've always been on private insurance and I must've cost a fortune to the gov! I'm not yet 20 and I've had 4 operations done, maybe it was even more than that. I wonder how costly that was. All the gear to rehabiliitate is expensive as hell already. Like 1000โฌ for crutches and leg braces expensive.
I don't know how your system works but I've always heard it's better than the NHS and Canadian systems. You people are great at everything; medicine, cars, genocide, you name it.
Yeah, it seems pretty great, but you often hear about social divide making a huge difference in education. I never noticed it myself, but of 28 students in our class in Gymnaium 6-8 had parents without higher education.
I wouldn't blame the government for it though, that's probably due to the parents/environment.
Gymnasium is a type if school. After elementary you go to Haupt, Real or Gymnasium (worst, in between, best). I finished Gymnasium and am thus eligible to study. Due to my indicisiveness I didn't apply for any university.
Fucking awful mistake. If I went to any university which wouldn't be difficult, the gov would give me huge sums of money that I can repay in a span of 35 years. Instead I applied to simple jobs without success and get no money. Fuck man, if I knew earlier how that'd turn out... I could get paid for studying. Now I'm making debt not studying.
Smangler ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:35:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your complaint is definitely valid but I think that's a trade off most of us are willing to make. I'm happy to wait for a while being uncomfortable but I'm not going to die. A few years ago I went to the ER with a very serous asthma attack (77% blood oxygen). The nurse took one look at me and I was rushed in. A few months later I broke my ankle and had to wait for 7 hours before it could even get plastered. I was miserable and in pain (9 screws and 2 plates) but I wasn't going to die.
The asthma attack was 4 days in ACU with around the clock monitoring. The ankle was a day in the ER, surgery, several follow ups. In that year I spent $125 for the crutches and I think $75 on meds. Even the boot was free.
Sure it sucks having to wait to see a specialist - our system isn't perfect. After my 2nd asthma attack (before the big one mentioned above) I was referred to a respirologist and saw him within a couple weeks. So it doesn't always take forever to see one.
I've got a friend who was injured on the job. He got fired after he got hurt because he couldn't work. He's fighting for compensation, but he sees a physiotherapist regularly because he doesn't have to pay out of pocket. I've had to buy him groceries, but his shoulder is fine.
My sister was born with cerebral palsy. Mild case - she's not in a wheelchair or anything. She had 9 surgeries before she was 10. She probably wouldn't be able to walk today if it weren't for our health care. There's no way our parents could have afforded them, let alone the decade or more of physio.
So yeah, I'm willing to wait an extra couple of weeks if necessary to see a specialist. Those stories make the news because they're, well, newsworthy. They're certainly not the norm. Shit happens, but nobody goes bankrupt by getting sick.
But why can't I just pay to see a specialist sooner? I don't want to sacrifice my current level of care.
Smangler ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because if people who can afford to merely pay to bump themselves up the list, those who can't are forced to wait even longer, regardless of the severity of their condition.
That's how it's fair - the people who objectively need it most go first. That's the thing about fairness - when it works it never seems fair to those involved.
Smangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you said no one ever responded to your question, so I did. I believe it's reasonable to care for and have empathy for other people, even if it costs me by doing so. I understand, by your response, that you disagree. That's cool, and you go ahead and pursue your own individual self interest. I'll stay up here and help to ensure that everyone in my country has access to quality care.
The way I see it is with single payer, people do have access to quality care. And if I can pay a bit more to get private care that's faster in non-life threatening situations, then so be it.
Smangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your ability to bypass the line is exactly what is negated in a single payer system. Saying you're OK with a single payer system while being able to bypass it completely negates a single payer system. It doesn't work that way.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except france and germany have public and private insurance and have the best systems in the world.
Agruk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you also against organ transplant lists? Do you believe that people should be allowed to pay in order to get bumped to the top of the list?
wrxygirl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still can, so it's not an issue. There are still private doctors here, so if you don't feel like waiting for whatever procedure you can pay to get in somewhere else.
dryj ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gets ignored because it's not based on any research, and it's a reminder that people vote without knowing the details. Depending on the system you can pay for separate private insurance or for addon care. The point is getting people with nothing enough that they don't die.
It brings up an info card and shows you a result with all the information. Read about a page of info and you see that your plan has to comply with the ACA. You don't have time to read one page?
This is something I (Canadian as well) learned recently.
Over the summer of 2016 I was diagnosed with a condition that I'm still trying to treat. Before I finally found out what it was I went to the hospital 3 times (once in an ambulance), my GP 4 times, and a specialist twice. The only bills I paid were $50 for the ambulance and parking.
I looked it up part-way through all of this and found out that if I were in the US I would likely be tens of thousands of dollars in debt, possible over $100,000. I honestly can't imagine having that kind of debt over me at any point.
Ramorous ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:32:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my son was born 13 weeks premature. Was told his care averaged 200k/week. So glad I live in Canada. Not sure what would have happened for him elsewhere.
Well to be honest, here in the US it would probably be mostly paid for, as most people do have insurance. The issue is that said insurance costs $200+ per month, plus $30 to see a doctor, $30 to get a prescription filled, $5000 deductible (largely for major expenses excluding regular visits, but it would likely apply in this situation).
So really it's just that we get to spend 20+ % of our income on health insurance.
That said, medical expenses are the #1 cause of bankruptcy here.
Rotanev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So really it's just that we get to spend 20+ % of our income on health insurance.
Well the money has to come from somewhere, so if it becomes a federally provided service ("for free"), it's just going to come from your taxes instead.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a proponent of more accessible healthcare, but it's a little misleading to claim that it can magically appear for free. You can make cuts to doctors' pay, disproportionately tax wealthy people, etc., but at the end of the day it is still expensive.
Well this is part of the problem with the debate. There are a lot of people in the US that don't look at it this way and just say it should be free. The money to pay for the service has to come from somewhere.
Medical really does make me wonder in the US. There is really no right way to do it. I mean its not like people die here because they cant afford something and don't have insurance. They are taken care of its just it may bankrupt them with no insurance if it is a major procedure.
On the flip side there are many people that say that they cant afford insurance even though they could if they wanted to but don't want to interfere with their lifestyle to pay for said insurance. They will say "Ill just gamble, I'm young I should be fine" or some other equivalent to that. However its really not a gamble as the worst that can happen is that owe money, no hospital is going to turn them away or leave them dying in the parking lot because they don't have insurance. So there really is no incentive to change the way you live to be able to afford health insurance.
I know a decent amount of people that make 40k ish that are single that claim they cant afford $70 pre tax a week for health care but don't bat an eye at a 30k+ vehicle that costs 350+ a month.
Had my son this year and reading threads on how much American moms have to pay to give birth to their child is crazy! That and the no paid leave is shitty. I feel for them.
iSWINE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:19:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading that someone got charged 10grand for a single ambulance ride to a hospital merely 15mins away
chassics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to me. Granted, I was badly injured, but nothing life threatening. Also, just to increase the FUN STORY quotient, ambulance rides are excluded in a many health insurance plans. Wheeee!
Xenu2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to look hard for those kind of stories. Anytime an ambulance ride is involved at all, the bill will be 4 figures just for the trip to the hospital. If there is any care beyond strapping you to the gurney, then you can hit 5 figures pretty quickly.
You've mocked me, but haven't raised a convincing argument. Besides, the original comment was vague. His condition could have been anything. A missing leg is much harder to keep stable then someone recovering from a seizure and is subsequently more expensive.
t-dar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:38:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Average is about $500 where I am. And ambulance drivers will do anything to get you in there, and if you don't refuse their service, you're stuck with the bill, whether you were conscious or not.
t-dar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$500 billed to your insurance or is that what you pay?
As the other guy said, I'll confirm: ambulance rides are rarely covered by insurance.
I got in a wreck in 2007 (drunk driver ran a red light going 50 in a 35 and hit me) and three ambulances came. They asked me if I was alright, and I told them I was "a bit woozy". Then they strapped me into a stretcher (though I didn't want it) and carried me to the hospital. The hospital kept me overnight citing a possible concussion (though they didn't actually do any tests). The hospital bill was partially paid for, but the ambulance was not.
Under Trumpcare, you need to save the money in your health savings account before they cut it out.
Rotanev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of Americans have HSAs; it's nothing new and it works great for certain groups of people. It's not a good solution to generally make healthcare affordable for everyone, but you're being a little silly by implying HSAs are dumb. They can be a great option for healthy people with the income to fill it. Again...doesn't do anything to help poor people or the average working-class person, but it does have a purpose.
jdrc07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah ha. Parking, that's where they getcha.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:41:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but....Canada is cold. And you have Tim Hortons instead of Krispy Kremes. Also-Mooses. Advantage? AMERICA!!!!!(cough cough...oh God...why is there blood again???)
lolsup1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia too. Best thing ever. My heart was in some bad rhythm. Went to see my GP. Got referred to a cardiologist and went through a whole bunch of appointments, tests, and two separate days in hospital for imaging and then resetting and follow up appointments. Had to pay half of the initial GP visit.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:46:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Australia had us pretty well covered until I went to NZ.
I injured myself pretty seriously, hospital visits, physio, morphine, etc. At one point a nurse came in and was incredibly apologetic because while I was on heavy painkillers, the doctor had also said that I should have some weaker ones available for when I didn't need the heavy stuff and so she was going to bring me a hundred paracetamol tablets, but they weren't on the prescribed drug list or something so I would have to pay for them. I think she expected me to freak out and start throwing things, she looked so concerned that I was going to have an out of pocket expense. They cost $3.
The services when you have a kid are amazing. We had nurses visit out house every 2 or 3 days for about two weeks after we returned home. There were no big complications, just part of the system. Much better than when we paid for a private hospital with the first kiddo.
lolsup1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even so.. I'm only saying this because I have like $200 to my name.
I broke my foot a couple months ago and I have over $2000 in debt. At the hospital they told me they're going to use a separate company for the crutches, I haven't been able to pay the bill since it happened, (about two months ago) and they then randomly added a 40% interest charge... Now the bill is over $200 for fucking crutches, and insurance won't touch it.
I take it that means it's considered dental and not medically necessary?
That is something I think Canada could improve. Pharmacy and dental care should be part of our universal healthcare, but it's not.
Voidg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The parking bill is silly here in Canada. Our casinos are free to park at but not the hospitals which at my work costs 15 dollars for a day pass.
Torvaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last year, I had appendicitis. The doctors were very understanding of my financial situation, and were willing to do a blood panel to check for signs of infection first so that I wouldn't necessarily have to pay for a more immediately conclusive imaging. If the blood panel hadn't come back with a clearly elevated white count that combined with my other symptoms for an obvious appendicitis diagnosis, I probably would have taken the option of going home and hoping it went away. It's only because of horror stories about untreated appendicitis relatively quickly going from pain to killing people that I went in.
I was temporarily without health insurance between jobs last October and also had unexpected appendicitis. I now have more medical bills than I do student loans from my undergraduate degree. It stinks but I'm happy to be alive.
Medical storied from the US are always horrifying to me. Worst thing to be said about my healthcare system is the high demand/long wait for non-urgent treatment.
just another failing of american liberalism. we may as well be a third world country.
sijsk89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be frank, I've barely gone a few months without health insurance since I was 18 because I've always had a job that offered it and have always taken the opportunity, but there are probably a lot of little problems I have that I have not addressed because I have about a 50/50 shot of getting a shit head doctor. It's just bad luck and it has put me off seeing doctors for little aches and pains. Like I've had a pain in the balls of my feet (hurhur) for over a year, went to a podiatrist and he had me try some pills then some stretches, then got x-rays done to find that I have bone spurs in both heels, although that's not where the pain is located at all, he chocked it up to that and pretty much said to stick to stretches. Now I have a foot brace I don't need, some random 300 dollar bill, time wasted and no relief to the pain. Dude was a prick and rushed through every appointment. Not to mention doctors aren't open on weekends and that's my only days off, taking off in the week is a pain because it requires rescheduling a bunch of shit for work. Just started getting insurance for a new job with more flexible hours so maybe it'll make getting a doctor visit easier.
Sorry for the blog post.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here here. Reading threads like this blows my mind.
My brother in law has brain cancer. He has had two brain surgeries, a round of chemo, dozens of CAT scans and other testing, follow up appointments, etc.
What the hell would he do if he had to pay for it? He has racked up easily a million dollars in medical care.
I'm still pissed about how much they charge for parking though
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
health of a citizen
I have private insurance and can't afford my deductible. Undocumented immigrants, however, get state-subsidized healthcare, which inadvertantly makes mine more expensive. Fuck citizens, this is America. We care about other people more than our actual citizens, here.
My family pays $10k a year for health costs....that's just insurance! We still have out of pocket costs. I am self-employed, wife will be looking for a new job soon.
I'm currently waiting to save the money to pay for a mammogram to find out if the lumps in my breast are cancer. Also an ultrasound to make sure it's not blood clots that are making my legs go numb. I'm 26 and I have insurance. Land of the free.
JunahCg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a human being it's a fucked up thought.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American here. I cut my hand when I didn't have insurance and it was $4,000 to get stitched up in the ER.
As a Canadian, the United States health care system makes me physically angry when I think about it.
kalabash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan said that with a single payer system that doctors will be literal slaves, so you know, maybe we don't want our doctors in manacles like yours are, OK?!? Gosh. Have some cultural sensitivity.
British here and suffered severe complications of ulcerative colitis out of nowhere, leading to an emergency sub total colectomy back in November 2015.
I shudder to think the medical bills I'd have incurred without the NHS. Being off work for three months was bad enough financially.
scolfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure a lot of thoroughly insured Americans still avoid medical care so as not to take up time physicians could be using on someone else or piss away the insurer's money (taxpayer money in Canada). Also, care still means time, a problem for hourly workers.
I broke my hand when I was 20. I had insurance but the deductible was too high and I would've had to pay for everything out of pocket. Instead of going to the doctor I just let it heal naturally. Still hurts if I hit it at a bad angle.
Nice, I'm in the US and haven't been to the doctor in probably 5-10 years, and that was just for a physical/check up that my mom set up. It would be awesome to get to go and not worry about money. I don't know what it would take right now for me to go, but I would have to be pretty fucked up
I had the same thing happen, but I received over 15 bills totaling $57,000. One I distinctly remember was $1200 for a woman who I saw all of 20 seconds who delivered me 3 $600 tylenol pills. They didn't even ask, she just brought them in to me while I was still doped the fuck up post surgery, and said "take these" to me.
Fuck the united states. Worst part was, it was literally the day before the ACA would have forced my parent's insurance to cover me.
Serfalon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 years ago I faceplanted with my Scooter and had some Broken Bones, and stuff.. The only thing I had to pay for was the Tax for the Ambulance Ride aswell as parking. which came up to be around 20 Euros.
For now I am happy with the Australian Healthcare System (which some politicians are trying to push towards the american system yuck!!!)
Last year I had a cyst which turned out being 2 cysts in my neck which had been there fro 6 years but finally started to stink and it was large so it turned out I needed surgery after the rebates I think I was out of pocket maybe under $200 and this was including the initial consult with my G.P, getting an ultrasound, follow up appointment, appointment with the surgeon, the actual surgery which meant I needed to be knocked out during and follow up appointment and removal of stitches after a few weeks.
If I was in America I can't even comprehend how much that would have set me back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really wish this was the case here in the US. I have put off so many things because of the bill. I even have insurance but it doesn't cover everything. I'm still paying off bills from when my son was in the hospital.
Jdrawer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You pay essentially the same as in America, but instead of it being a choice you have to do it through taxes.
As well, if you live in a more rural province have fun getting a plastic surgeon to fix the scar left from a tumor in the face that had to be removed. My grandma was waiting for around a year, trying to get the right signatures and oks by doctors so she could go to a plastic surgeon that would keep her looking the way she did before the tumor was found.
Just saying, shit is complicated. Only on Reddit do people paint healthcare in such a binary way.
But for real, I moved to France from the USA for work and went to the doctor for terrible neck pain that I'd been having for a few weeks. I would have gone in the USA but leaving my job there had left me insurance-less. So I just dealt with the pain and figured I'd pulled a muscle.
Turns out I had a hemorrhaged disc in my neck.
It was treated with some great physiotherapy and I was given preventative exercises to do forever. But shit works and it causes me little to no pain. My friend in the USA who had the same condition? Heavily addicted to opioids now as physio wasn't properly covered by her insurance plan.
So yeah, the USA healthcare system can suck a bag of dusty balls.
kvlxm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Truth, id honestly hate to be American, having to pay for my well being and I wouldn't be comfortable with pretty much anyone being able to own a gun, as somebody who's never been to America that's so fucked up to me.
It's still bad even with Obamacare. I don't have the best job, kind of in between them while looking but still working reduced hours. It would cost me over half of what I take home a month to get insurance and I'd still have something ridiculous like a $7500 deductible. It really is a luxury to have health insurance in the US.
I'm Canadian as well and i totally agree. My grandpa had to get emergency open heart surgery in November out of nowhere. He had to pay for his medications for his recovery and that was it.
My favorite part is when you realize that the Senate just voted to repeal Obamacare.
GWS2004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people in the US talk about universal health care the same thing gets repeated "well do to want to wait six months to get the surgery you need like they do in Canada?"
Americans are dumb, they just keep shooting themselves in the feet.
I'm kind of upset about this comment. It really fucking sucks that I can't afford insurance...
cucufag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If government healthcare became a thing in america, the first year would be horrible for everyone. The queue would back up to months and months... Maybe even years for some nonurgent issues. And opponents of this care would use it as an example of why we should reppeal it.
Source: am one of those many Americans with various health issues that won't see a doctor about it because of the cost. I imagine a ton of people are actually making their situations worse by just sitting on whatever ails them because they can't afford treatment.
Usurer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our system is nothing to brag about. I know it varies by province (it shouldn't) but in BC in my perspective if it's not an emergency it's all pretty shit:
We're too reliant on clinics. Not enough family doctors (or clinics, for that matter). Clinics tend not to care, they seem to just want to meet quota for the day and get out of there. This leads to band-aid solutions, which leads to repeat visits, which just exacerbates the problem.
There are no 24-hour clinics. If you can't make it to a clinic before they hit quota and shut for the day, your only other option is the ER. If you actually need to see a doctor but aren't dying it means you're going to have to go contribute to the plugging up of the hospitals. Add to that the baseline of idiots who go when they have absolutely no reason to (I've hard of people taking their kids because of Mosquito bites) and our ER's are permanently snarled messes. Clinics at the hospital would make sense to me but nope.
As a "fuck you" to add to the above, 24-hour vets are no problem.
If you have an issue that requires specialist care, God help you. This is the one that probably grinds me the most and I've seen it time and time again. If a clinic can't help you, they'll refer you to a specialist. You may have to wait months to see this specialist. Once your appointment is up it's entirely likely that they'll just refer you to another specialist. If you've got an issue that's abnormal or difficult to diagnose/treat, I've seen this go on for a year+ before.
Because it's such a snarled mess of not-my-problem-next-one-please preventative health goes out the window.
Mental health services are a disgrace. Good fucking luck to you on this one.
We need an overhaul. Either a proper national health service or we need to just properly privatize the whole thing and require everyone be insured (see: Germany).
My son had foot surgery last year, here in the US. The bill was $190,000. My health insurance paid $78,000, I had to pay $6000, and the rest was "written" off. If I had no insurance, I would have had to have $190K up front in order to do the surgery. A 3 hour surgery on a foot, that kept him from being lame.
It's an entirely crazy and messed up system. Unrestrained capitalism, with lives hanging in the balance.
ademnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US the health and life of the citizen is in the citizen's hands because their tax dollars are spent instead on billionaires. And apparently they like it that way.
simonsb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife had this happen out of nowhere. She was on the cheapest ($400 a god damn month) Obamacare plan the hospital tried sticking her with 29k in bills. Bunch of fucking bullshit. I am insanely jealous of your healthcare system.
Its so common here, I'm a fairly young female and haven't had menstrual cycle in about 7 years, something that very well could mean cancer especially the same cancer my grandmother actually died from (ovarian) when I've had to go to the ER for various things the doctors always ask me why I haven't seen anyone about it and when I tell them its because I don't have insurance they completely understand and brush it off like its just normal to be sick for so long. They're just like "Oh okay, onto the next thing then"
Don't be fooled, your parent's pay tons of tax money to the province's health care system and you will for your entire life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, the parking is astronomical though for real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We found out recently via my mother's new doctor that her previous doc had diagnosed her with severe osteoporosis 4 years ago.. and never told her and thus, never treated her. She now has 7 fractures in her back, five of which are too healed (incorrectly, weren't found in time) to ever be corrected, and she goes in for kyphoplasty on Wednesday for the other two. There is a daily shot called Forteo that she can take that will immediately begin building up the bone so these fractures stop.. but the cost is $1100 a month, and neither Medicare (the "old people" insurance everyone eventually gets in the US) nor their secondary insurance will cover it. We decided yesterday, after struggling for months about how to pay for this, that we're just going to have to bite the bullet and do it and hope it works out.
And before anyone mentions it, no, there's nothing we can legally do to the doctor who failed to tell her. Said doctor has a history of terrible misdiagnoses in my family [I bailed on him years ago, parents wouldn't until mom almost died], but almost none of it is documented. There is no doubt he's done this to others, but he was a prominent local physician and we suspect he buried most of his mistakes.
Broke my arm and was only charged a few bucks for the splint. $20 or something. Canada rocks
Ethost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to America. Where life is a fundamental right, but universal healthcare isn't.
Vengrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Five or so years ago, I had to have my gall bladder taken out. I've worked some job or another my whole life, even had various jobs as a kid. From age 18 to now, I've always had a job that offered health insurance EXCEPT for one 9 month period where I was laid off. Guess when my gall bladder decided to go kaput? Yep, $30,000 dollars later and I'm still paying on it.
To be fair, it was not routine. I had to have a stent inserted and then removed to get proper healing. Luckily the state picked up the tab on the 3 separate hospital visits but I was still on the hook for the anestheologist, the surgeon and the gastroenterologist that put in/removed the stent and numerous other smaller costs. All in, I think I still had to pay about 8k+ of that whole ordeal.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At what point is a treatment necessary then? Who is willing to draw those lines? Are you happy leaving that up to a bureaucrat?
Reconstruction? How bad would it have to be?
Scarring?
Lasik surgery?
Knee implants/replacement? What if one option is titanium and technically higher performing but costs more?
There are documentaries on hospitals that have better versions of some surgeries with reduced recovery times. How does the market choose better healthcare if the costs are removed from the consumer? Who is incentivized to develop better treatments?
Socialist medicine benefits from the existence of capitalist medical economies through the rest of the world.
It's a fucked up thought for literally everyone, even African tribes using herbal remedies have a better health care system because at the very least they won't be suffering in debt for 35 more years regardless of success rate.
If you know your way around the American system then there are options. Unfortunately, you have to know where and how to push for the free treatment, and some people just never learnt any research skills or never stick up for themselves or they feel ashamed of help... so if you wait til your jaw's broken wide open, you're likely to head for the ER.
Hopefully some kind soul at the finance office got her waivered - any hospital that takes tax money has to do some pro bono - or a charity covered her bill, since most Catholic hospitals will write off bills for patients - the Red Cross helps too.
I'm Canadian originally, you're lucky you had a good run with your treatment. The 90s were a very bad time and it's worse now outside Toronto.
Oh here we fucken go again. Can we have one medical thread without some socialised healthcare retard with their head up their taxpayer-funded arse parroting mindless rhetoric about "healthcare is a human right"!?
And I'm an Aussie who has socialised healthcare yet understands the very valid argument against it. You really should try that.
I broke my tailbone in multiple places when I was younger and my fam opted out of having it treated because they knew that a) it'd cost too much to fix and b) if they managed to pay for it but there was a complication, then they'd have to pay even more and that wasn't possible. So now I have a severely deformed lower back that needs a spinal fusion to improve support, and more importantly need my entire tailbone removed and replaced (with something?) because it's basically a little alligator mouth pinching my intestines and uterus in its little gator jaws, and causing paralysis in my lower body and abdominal organs. Basically, I have to sign up to have part of my spine pulled out if I ever want babies, so I get to decide if I think I'll be able to a) afford the surgery at all, b) be able to even afford a kid after the surgery, or c) eventually have even more expensive issues if I choose to forgo the surgery and hope my lower spine stops trying to hatch itself out of my butt crack. America is just so fun.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They choose not to buy insurance.
Whoosk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really sucks man. The last time I went to the doctor was about 10 years ago when I was 17. I have had a few close calls over the years where looking back I probably should have gone to the hospital for certain things but when your broke, uninsured, and an ambulance ride alone is around $1000 professional medical treatment is avoided at all costs. I'm 27 now and try to take care of myself but getting seriously sick or injured is a constant worry because I know I would not be able to pay for treatment.
You also have about 10% of our population and more high-paying jobs available (edit: in comparison to how many people live there).
Look, I get that universal health care is nice, and I would love to have it, but there's a reason we haven't had it and why so many people are against it -- and the reason being it just costs a lot of money to insure that many people and especially that many people living under the poverty line.
Also, if you have appendicitis in the States, you will get treatment and quickly. A better example would be a mores specialized treatment like a kidney transplant. Long lines for that and lots of red tape to cut through with insurance/hospitals/etc.
GDP per person in U.S.: $53,000
Canada: $52,000
Larger population means our "much higher" GDP gets spread thinner.
And yes, America can afford it, but a lot of Americans don't want to because they don't like being taxed. The average Canadian family loses 42% of income to taxes. Americans are paying 27% per family.
And it's even higher in places like California where they're paying almost 40% of their income to taxes, and California is already one of the most expensive place to live on the planet.
Americans don't want to pay more taxes. That's why America elected a rich guy who doesn't like to pay taxes too.
As I said in another comment, the system is broken and we need reform because what we have now sucks. It needs to be either single-payer or back to the way it was because this in-between BS is sinking the wallets of middle-class families.
Yes, but my original comment was aimed at the Canadian comment. I wasn't sure why you were bringing up the UK, since I never mentioned the UK and neither did he/she...
Which part? The part that lets me get an MRI without waiting months or the part that subsidizes (for the rest of the world) the R&D for so many of the new and improving, lifesaving and quality-of-life improving drugs on the market?
Oh right, you mean the part where people are expected to PAY for these things. Sadly, the pilgrims didn't bring any of those European money tree seeds over on the Mayflower.
You didn't address any of the problems we face, our healthcare system is still absolute shit. I mean I'm sure we do great private cancer care, for those few of us that can afford it. And specialized care waiting times? Really? As if that means fuck all for the problems lower class face. (Hint, it's not waiting times, it's trying to afford our ridiculous healthcare in the first place.)
There's a reason that our life expectancy is embarrassing compared to other first world countries, just as you linked.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you measuring all stats to be the same? Why would waiting times and life expectancy be equal? You're over exaggerating "top of everything." Especially when healthcare is a delicate system. One weak link in the chain ruins everything- the example would be great cancer treatment means nothing when nobody can afford it.
And that's because half-assing regulation gives us half-assed healthcare. You can blame republicans for that one, hence ACA being severely neutered. But you know what has tons of data and practice? Socialized health care, working literally all across the world. Sounds like my data is a bit better than yours.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Socialized healthcare isn't the best way to insure people.
You could just give people the money that would go towards their healthcare benefits. It removes the administrative costs and allows individuals to pick the insurance that's right for them.
I would willingly pay a fair amount in taxes to ensure that all Americans have access to complete health care.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In America, we prefer to pay willingly for our services rather than have the government forcibly take our money and tell us what we must buy.
You do know, that this occurs already?
Firefighters, police men, K-12 education, postal service, public roads, traffic lights, and all that infrastructure wasn't paid for willingly as a "service".
Before firefighters, know what happened if your house caught on fire? If you couldn't put it out yourself, it would burn down.
Before universal healthcare, know what happened if you got sick? If you couldn't pay for the treatment, you died. But it's not before universal healthcare.
Socializing everything is wrong, I'll be the first to agree. But healthcare? Is it really that bad to pay extra taxes for someone else to be able to live?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:17:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All public services. Health care is private. Key, key difference.
Yes. Key difference being, those services used to be private, and are now public. While healthcare is still private.
That's not accurate. Hell, Ben Franklin set up one of the first volunteer fire departments. It was a volunteer charity.
And I'm assuming that before Ben Franklin, there were no fires? And that first fire department was able to serve all of America?
Also not accurate. Up until the mid-1970s, doctors and hospitals routinely gave out free health care to those who would not afford it. Until Medicaid and Medicare became the standard, local communities took care of their own through charity. And it worked.
If you exclude everyone who it didn't work for and exclude the communities that didn't take care of their own, then yes, it worked well for those that the charities reached.
You're intentionally oversimplifying this to make it look like a ridiculous choice. That's not the choice and you know it.
That's actually the choice. I, you, everyone in the country, pays 20% more in taxes and everyone gets fully subsidizes healthcare. Which part am I missing? Implementation details? Of course that's complex, but also not the crux of the choice.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As long as we're going all in on the ad hominems, I might as well not hold back.
In my system, we return to communal charity that was common throughout the country until the latter half of the 20th century. In addition, costs plummet and "not being able to afford services" no longer exists.
What. The. Actual. Fuck. I won't say this is retarded, but it has the naivety/wishful thinking of a 6 year old. The only dialogue I can contribute to this idea is that, no, it's not an adoptable, feasible solution. It's not adoptable because, seriously, nobody will adopt it. It's not feasible because, nobody will adopt it, but ignoring that, any public health crisis that hits the entire community and the whole thing goes boom. The best "community" healthcare is if the community is the entire country because the government can force the adoption and no singular health crisis event can bankrupt the community.
I'm exaggerating slightly, but you did literally say we should "pay extra taxes for someone else to be able to live." That's absolutely ridiculous.
This is in no way ridiculous. If we had universal healthcare right now, we'd be paying higher taxes, and less people would die. But we don't have it. So the question is, should we do it? Because your original quote was: "In America, we prefer to pay willingly for our services rather than have the government forcibly take our money and tell us what we must buy." which is universal healthcare (government forcibly taking our money and telling us what to buy) or not.
In these sorts of debates, there is typically the Sarah "death panels" Palin fanatic on the right
That's stupid.
and the "everyone will die without socialized health care" liberal on the left.
That's even more stupid.
And then you turned this into an emotional and outlandishly fallacious "will they live or will they die" diatribe.
Because it is an emotional argument. In my current position, I would lose money if we implemented universal healthcare. It's a net negative for me to want universal healthcare. Is that logical? Yes, because I want universal healthcare for emotional reasons. Less people die. More people have higher quality of life.
And how the fuck is it fallacious? Do I have to prove that if you get healthcare, you live longer?
People don't say, "oh health care is expensive in America so I'll just fucking die instead." Huge swaths of people aren't dying because health care is too expensive.
Way to bring in the hyperbole. Huge swaths of people have no health insurance or high deductible health plans. No, they don't die immediately. They die faster. If they get treatment, they live longer. In other words, the life expectancy of Americans is going down.
They're offset by the thousands that die in Europe because the waiting times are insanely long for specialized care.
So. Your source is American Liberty Report. Lets go to the front page of this website shall we? Oh? Megyn Kelly Is Leaving Fox! Obama Antagonizes Russia over Partisan Politics! In the web page's About Us section, "At the American Liberty Report we strive to enlighten and educate people about the benefits of traditional conservative values. We believe in limited governments and Americans rights to freedom and privacy."
Totally not biased. Nope.
And the actual article you linked? I'm seeing a lot of words and a lot of numbers and yet ZERO fucking sources. Anyone can write bullshit, sprinkle numbers on top and call it "truth".
I had some great conversations and learned a lot tonight.
I find this very very hard to believe. From comment #1, I could tell you were a far right conservative. Limited government, all freedom. Guys like you don't learn because it goes against your staunch stance of limited government.
The worst part is that you don't even see the ridiculousness.
Seriously?
You've said some Grade A Bullshit.
Totally ignoring how currently socialized systems used to be private. In fact calling it the difference. No. Fucking. Shit. That's why I fucking pointed it out. I pointed at the duck and you proudly called it a duck as if that was your counter argument.
In my system... The fuck? Are you Donald?
I'll continue to have good, logical conversation.
If you want good logical conversation, throw your weird unsubstantiated ideas away and speak with reason. Don't say shit like this:
You're intentionally oversimplifying this to make it look like a ridiculous choice. That's not the choice and you know it.
and act like you've disproven something. Because no, I don't fucking know it, I can't read your mind.
Agruk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, the pilgrims didn't bring any of those European money tree seeds over on the Mayflower.
No, my point is that money doesn't grow on trees, ffs.
Doctors don't work for nothing either, and to presume that a doctor may be conscripted to provide you free health care under your socialized model is akin to saying slavery is ok.
Agruk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:39:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to presume that a doctor may be conscripted to provide you free health care under your socialized model is akin to saying slavery is ok.
We have the right to a fair trial, supervised by a judge, if we're charged with a crime. Do you think that right means that judges may be conscripted to provide us with free trial supervision? Are U.S. judges enslaved?
Bad analogy. Unlike judges, medical doctors aren't government employees (or very few are).
Also, health care isn't a right. Where is that written?
Agruk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:03:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're changing the topic. You assumed that socialized health care models are akin to saying slavery is okay, since they would require doctors to be conscripted. I pointed out that that assumption is baseless. Instead of defending your assumption, you changed to the topics of whether health care rights are written anywhere, and whether doctors are government employees.
Ok. The judge in your scenario is not a slave. You just might have to wait for your trial for a few days or weeks (speedy). And when you do get to see him you might get 5 minutes. Depends on why you're in front of the judge.
Now, what if there's only one judge? As there are minimum qualifications to become a judge, not least among them years of intense legal schooling followed by actually practicing law, it's not a trivial matter to just make more.
Judges are in finite supply.
So, if there are more cases than a judge can see, you can offer higher compensation for longer hours on the bench, or you can lower the threshold for what constitutes a crime. There is a political solution there.
You could also lower the requirements to becoming a judge. But then, if you find yourself in front of the B-squad, knowing you're innocent, wouldn't you rather have the best? Too bad, this is a government function and you get what you get.
Health care is not a government function. It is a service provided by highly skilled individuals that everybody needs. This makes it quite lucrative for the individual who chooses to pursue the education and training necessary. And the result is that health care costs.
So how does the government respond? It says that they'll only pay 50% of what the doctor says service X costs. Doctors respond by saying they won't take government paid plans. So now the government makes it illegal for doctors to charge more than the rate the government will pay. If that rate is lower than the doctor's costs, the doctor cannot practice. It doesn't pay the bills.
So now there are no doctors.
This is where the slavery analogy occurs. People still get sick, but no doctor will work for free, so how will you make him work if not by force?
I know this won't convince you and I wish you all the best with your efforts to overthrow our capitalist system. Not everyone has equal abilities and so you'll never achieve equality of outcome for all. Why don't you move to Venezuela to see how great socialism really is. I'll even send you a roll of toilet paper if you PM your address when you get there.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:33:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. How can you be so misinformed on how healthcare works for the rest of the world.
As a brit I still find it fascinating that in America you have to pay for health care. And even more so that everyone seems to just be okay with that.
Agruk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is fascinating. The population here in the U.S. is, mostly, terrified and demoralized. Some favor socialized health care. But most are afraid, due to propaganda efforts going back to Reagan in the 1960s and McCarthy in the 1950s, that 'socialism' will be even worse than the status quo. And labor is utterly defeated here, so those who want the British model see no realistic political avenue for accomplishing it.
Mainstream Democrats too, including Hilary Clinton, mock the idea of socialized healthcare and higher education. Here is one of the saddest displays of 2016, from civil-rights-hero-turned-mainstream-Democrat John Lewis:
Honestly, I did not realise until I was maybe 16? That healthcare wasn't free throughout the world. I mean I understand in LEDC that it wouldn't be the case, but it really didn't cross my mind before then that people in countries like the US would have to pay for their health or go without.
None of us are ok with it. But none of us will do anything. Part indifference, part feeling like you have no power as a citizen of your country, and part worrying that universal healthcare is too "socialist" or to "liberal" regardless of the fact that private healthcare is clearly failing badly.
And considering were a two party system that is split roughly down the middle a lot of the time, your generally pissing off half the country by trying to do anything.
My fiancรฉ spent new year's morning sleeping on the floor of a hospital for a bridesmaid who had too much. Ended up pinching a nerve in his back somewhere, lost feeling below his knee. His family is prone to neuropathy.
The $20 cane is tall enough, and he's got SOME of the feeling back. That's all I can ask for.
exiestjw ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You pay for healthcare too, just via taxes. About $6,000 / year.
NHS patients wait an average of about eight weeks for treatments that require admission to a hospital, four weeks for out-patient treatments and two weeks for diagnostic tests. While NHS patients have a choice of hospitals, they cannot always choose their specialist.
These reasons are why I and other people are okay with taking care of insurance myself.
izozyr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You pay for healthcare too, just via taxes. About $6,000 / year.
That's simply wrong. The article states that National Insurance "is specifically for Healthcare and your state-pension", but all of it is actually used to pay for pensions, widow allowances, unemployment benefits, and similar support systems. The TIME article you linked specifically says that healthcare costs the UK about $2.5k/capita/year, compared to $6k/c/y for the US. It's almost as if the American system was highly cost inefficient...
Like most developed countries, Britain ranks above the U.S. in most health measurements. Its citizens have a longer life expectancy and lower infant mortality, and the country has more acute-care hospital beds per capita and fewer deaths related to surgical or medical mishaps. Britain achieves these results while spending proportionally less on health care than the U.S. โ about $2,500 per person in Britain, compared with $6,000 in the U.S.
exiestjw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. Any response to what I posted about the shit service?
If they told me I had to wait two months for inpatient service, I'd be like "fuck it, I'm moving to America".
As an American, it is also fucking insane, but we have retarded people everywhere in our government purposefully keeping the populace uneducated and fighting against their own interests.
It's not insane, considering that our health care industry is bloated and over-charges for everything because we didn't have universal health care soon enough (they were paying for a lot of treatments out of pocket because they are morally obligated to perform treatments on people who go to the E.R.).
Obama tried to erase years of damage by starting the Affordable Care Act, but it was too late. Now, our premiums are sky-rocketing and most Americans are paying too much for health insurance because Congress wouldn't let Obama move to a single-payer system. The reason? They feared the tax hikes would sink middle-class families.
Really, I can see both sides of the argument, and all I can say is that we have a terrible system and we need reform (again).
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America wouldn't even need a tax hike. Just stop spending so dam much on the military and look after your own people.
Xervicx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, I still haven't gone to a doctor about issues that have existed for most of my life. My parents wouldn't take me to the doctor or keep me home from school even with a fever of 103F, so I didn't exactly grow up in a household that was all for trying to get medical attention for anything.
the-mbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time for you to hit your Parents with a stick. This is absolutely unresponsible behaviour
Xervicx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah I'm aware. And my Mother wonders why I don't like listening to her advice even more than when I was little.
-Pelvis- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have suffered for five months with a broken wisdom tooth while I was looking for work; really bad cavity. Hurt like a bitch. Finally had work dental insurance kick in last month, went to the dentist and got antibiotics for the infection. Now the pain is gone. Getting it extracted in a few days!
[deleted] ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 21:27:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't surprise me much, particularly if it's in the US. If it's not bothering her, I imagine concerns about the cost as well as any time out of work would be major deciding factors in that decision.
Obviously, though, not great to leave it untreated.
Edit: Responded further down because brain did not process the "open" part of that injury. Yikes.
We already spend $10k/year per person. Maybe it is just me but I don't see that going down when people like big bank Hillary or loud mouth big wig Trump are handling the negotiations between their friends and the general public.
Insurance companies are fighting like mad to keep us away from the single payer plan. Pretending that the single payer plan would cost more because everyone is corrupt is absurd--the corrupt practices are what are keeping us paying huge amounts to private insurance.
I'm not saying it will cost more. I'm just saying it won't cost any less in the short or medium term because Trump and any future president can't just wave a magic wand and get things to cost less day 1. It takes years of consistent non-stop negotiation downward to get prices down and I don't trust my politicians to be able to do that. If we had passed a single payer system under Obama we would be repealing it during Trump. In the meantime we would have a ton of layoffs and rehire booms and bust cycles. I would rather just skip out on that market instability.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know. European currently living in the US. Dentist told me to get my wisdom teeth removed. Cost: $4000. Decided to see if I can wait to get this done when I move back home in a year or so. I mean, who has $4000 laying around??? Friend of mine needed a couple stitches. They charged him about $500 per stitch. He kind of regretted not buying some superglue and doing it himself..
mvtheg ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im moving to Hong Kong soon (from the UK). If something happens to me over there I'm just gonna fly back to the UK and get it sorted here.
If that means a 12 hour flight with a broken leg then so be it!
I've actually had similar things happen with friends of mine--English and Argentinian, respectively. It was cheaper/easier for them to fly from Los Angeles to their home countries for root canals than it was to get them done in America. So fucking sad.
ayjak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A TA of mine missed a couple of days of class one time, and we were curious as to why. Turns out, he needed a root canal, and it was cheaper to fly back to fucking Romania rather than just get the exact same procedure done here.
Ex_iledd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
4 grand? In Canada where I live I had all 4 removed for $1800. 500 of which was the drugs that knock you out/pain/swelling. At a place where the surgeon had been doing it for 40 years and was done in 45 minutes. As they say 'greed is good'.. I guess.
Heroicis ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 23:42:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually don't like to take political sides, but for some reason it's such a Republican/Conservative thing.
"Socialized healthcare doesn't work."
"But it works literally everywhere it's been do-"
"Hush! My taxes!"
Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of conservative viewpoints, but still can't believe so many right-wing people refuse to accept the fact that socialized healthcare works.
Shut it you filthy commie, we need those taxes to pay Raytheon to build bombs to send stone age brown people further back into the stone age! So that we can hire our contractor friends and pay them Billions to rebuild their shit.
Americans are the only people in the world that will give $100 to a corporation to save $50 in taxes.
FloppY_ ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:21:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'muricans don't want to pay taxes even if it saves them money and improves their quality of life.
ptrst ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:50:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America's culture is based a lot on individualism - especially the concept that, if you're smart and work hard, you'll be successful (rich). Since everyone thinks they're smart and a hard worker, it's only a matter of time until they're rich! And when that inevitably happens, they don't want their money taxed to pay for all the poor, unsuccessful, lazy people who could be rich if only they worked hard and deserved it.
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 22:18:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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GamerKey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not spending that kind of money until it has been [some time with severe symptoms]
That's how people end up in the hospital, get their very progressed stage 4 cancer discovered, and die a few weeks later.
Hopefully over a weekend too so I don't miss any work being sick and lose money there too.
No sick-days/being sick getting deducted from vacation is an atrocity, too.
Hey, me too! Well, with the few weeks ago and the need for zofran - it was the only thing I paid for - not the 7 hours in hospital, not the food, not the CT, not the 3 shots of ondansetron in the IV port which did nothing anyway :(
I'm unsure of max dosage on ondansetron nor the pharmacology behind why it has one, though "three injections" could mean virtually any amount of substance.
Glad to hear that you did find relief in the end.
AgentJin ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 23:05:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITS ACCEPTABKE BECAUSE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE IS TOO MUCH LIKE COMMUNISM AND COMMUNISM IS FUCKING BAD!!! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!!1!1!
It isn't an acceptable way to live in a developed country. Broken healthcare system + no effort being put in to mediate this problem AFAIK = people not wanting to pay 300,000+ dollar hospital bills.
You're joking but as a child I remember thinking that communist countries literally had a Battle Royale fight to the death between candidates to choose a new leader. That is how absurdly demonized communism is in this country. This was the 90s in Massachusetts.
Obviously communism has sucked just about everywhere it's been, but the logic of
communism is bad
social programs are communism
therefore social programs are bad
is freakin' rampant in this country and it's disgusting and sad.
Almost half the country was smart enough to vote for trump... And we are hoping for universal Healthcare soon. We can keep hoping. People don't care about facts. They know more than them fancy books.
PiLamdOd ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know Trump is in favor or medical insurance and ending the ACA, right?
Also makes people not want jobs in healthcare, which perpetuates making the jobs of the currently employed grueling, less efficient, and far more difficult, contributing to a further decline in health care quality (which perpetuates patients being unhappy with their care which perpetuates reduced funding to health care systems which perpetuates the issue of constantly being understaffed).
It's a pretty vicious cycle that goes on and on because politicians are making the decisions on matters they know jack shit about and often can't be bothered to try to understand. As long as their pockets keep getting lined by Big Pharma and insurance companies (who have pretty much endless resources because of the power given to them by politicians) the cycle continues and grows more vicious.
Don't forget the millions of people who finally got coverage and went to the doctor with lists of problems because they finally had healthcare. Now they have pre-existing conditions and many are pretty much uninsurable. Pre-diabetic? You're screwed. Hypertension? You won't get another policy. Female? Forget it.
This scares me more than anything else about the GOP. People are going to die.
Agruk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And those of us who agree with you are too damn lazy to protest, to call our political representatives, or even to vote--let alone help to fund organizations that lobby for universal health care.
We'll see if anyone even shows up for Bernie's January 15th rallies around the country. I doubt it.
Kittyk4y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily too lazy. Not enough resources or energy to protest or call representatives or vote. I know a lot of people who didn't vote because they couldn't afford to miss the day of work - too few polling places so the lines are excessively long, even if you get there early (because everyone gets there early to try to avoid the long lines).
Torvaun ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's acceptable, and I vote to say so every time I can. After years of this, here we are.
It's not. The US is effectively a failed state; they're really just a bunch of folk who all live in the same geographic area and share a delusion they live in a nation state.
It's not. Unfortunately we have too many citizens who are fucking morons who insist that it's more important for them to never possibly contribute for their neighbor than to care for themselves or their families. Ironically, it's typically the poorest and least educated who feel this way and would serve to benefit the most. Truly a sad state of affairs.
Well OBVIOUSLY if you have medical problems you just pull yourself up by your bootstraps & get a nice upper middle class career with full benefits! Duh!
No worries, we won't be a first would country for long.
Ethost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Implying America is a first world country.
ccm596 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't.
yaosio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The GOP want the poor to die so it's acceptable to them.
ahchava ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. That's why healthcare is a major debate here. The problem is that some people that are part of the decision process value money more than people, so as capitalists, those people tend to be able to over ride the rest because it tends to be their products and services in question.
because americans are stubborn and create an uproar at the mere mention of increasing taxes or anything to pay for the nations medical care like the UK or a lot of other countries do.
I have fantastic insurance, can easily afford copay, and don't lose any money for taking sick days. Going to the dr is a pain! Takes hours out of my day, the place is uncomfortable, the receptionist and nurses are rude, and they usually don't make me any better.
Got a nasty virus? That sucks. Take this antibiotic that won't help.
Rest and fluids.
Joint hurts? try not to do that. Take painkillers. But not too much.
It makes absolutely no sense that we are ok with cost transfers for some segments of the population, but not others, in my opinion.
I agree, though we have very different opinions on which direction to go with it (assuming that you agree with socialized health care). I don't believe in cost transfers to begin with (Medicaid, -care, SS, etc.), but I understand that puts me outside of the mainstream of Americans.
I think I should stop before this gets too deep though, haha!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a libertarian and a pretty strong one, which is outside the American mainstream. In reality, I'm pragmatic (I don't push for changes that will obviously never be possible, like the below example). But in my ideal worldview...
SS/Medicaid/Medicare wouldn't exist. The federal government has powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution. Providing health care (or funding for it) is not one of them. On a basic level, I don't believe the government should be able to force you to pay into a retirement funding system (SS), nor do I believe it is their place to provide service/funding for health care services.
To many, that's "heartless" (and I understand on an emotional level why people would think that). To me, it's philosophically consistent. Like everything else, health care is a product/service. If you want it, pay for it. If you don't, don't. Government shouldn't hinder or assist you in your decision-making. It should fight to uphold your right to make that choice, but not try to influence it in either direction.
Simply put, as required by the Constitution, the government doesn't have the explicit right to do it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One, you can live without a new TV, but you die without proper health care in some situations.
In certain cases, true. You also die without food and (in many cases) shelter. Should government should provide free food or housing? I'm genuinely curious, following your logic. You might support free housing (some do), but I've never heard an argument for free government-provided food. Following that logic, it should be provided.
Basically because we are human, and we care about the people around us, we can't and never will treat health care like another service.
I disagree. Up until this century, it was treated as a service throughout human history. And it worked quite well in conjunction with charity. That's another thing that gets ignored: when the government doesn't step in, charity does. There are countless examples of this, including health care.
This is why health care doesn't work according to capitalist theory
Getting into that would get way too complicated to discuss on reddit, but I disagree completely. Health care can and has worked in capitalist systems.
It doesn't respond to prices in the same way other goods do because people will pay anything to get treatment fot their family members and friends to live.
This is true in theory, but not reality. This also ignores competition. When products are priced too expensively, competitors enter the market to provide cheaper (and still profitable) services. That's something that is very hindered by the government in our current system. It also again ignores charity, which was very common prior to the Medicaid/Medicare systems were created. Ron Paul, for example, spoke about how he would often provide free health care to those who couldn't afford it. I can't find that interview, but here's at least one testimonial of him doing it (warning: it is a political TV ad).
We can get so deep here, but I don't think it's worth the effort for either of us. If you're very interested, I recommend you read The Cure: How Capitalism Can Save American Health Care to get a better idea of my stance (generally - I disagree with some points).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way too massive. Again, as wasn't addressed, the federal government on a very basic level has no legal authority to provide such services to begin with. It is not constitutional.
Health care was different a century ago. It wasn't as good.
That's because of advances in technology, not the system. A fallacious comparison.
The problem with charity in health care is again how ineffective it is when the systems aren't coordinated.
You're assuming charities are these super-specific situations, though. Half a century ago, each individual doctor and hospital functioned as quasi-charities, charging those who could afford it and providing free care to those who couldn't. When I say "charity" I don't necessarily mean funding for alzheimer's or cancer, but the community doctors and medical communities pitching in. That existed in abundance previous to our current system (ask your parents or grandparents, depending on your age). With government involvement, it no longer does.
How do you compete for emergency care. So you get in a car accident and you shop around while you're bleeding out for the cheapest place to get treatment.
You don't "shop around," the business has already set competitive prices. If I want a burger, I don't compare McDonald's or Burger King prices. I go to whatever one is closer because I know their massive competition has forced them to lower prices. Sure, one is cheaper, but they're both relatively the same. I don't "shop" for my emergency care, I go to the closest hospital already knowing their care is competitively priced. If it wasn't competitively priced, they wouldn't be in business.
Basically, I want to do what is cost effective when it comes to health care. Our current system completely sucks in that regard.
I agree. Everyone wants that. We just disagree on the way to achieve it.
There are models that work much much better in other countries that get a lot more bang for their buck.
That depends on who you are. Are you the guy in the hospital once a month? Socialized health care is great for you. Are you healthy and almost never in the hospital? Socialized health care is very expensive and unnecessary for you.
And when we look at the "average American" or "average European," who is somewhere between always and never in the hospital, health care is actually cheaper in the USA.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are food programs still around if they are unconstitutional? Has no one challenged them?
I have no idea if they've been challenged. What I will say is that the courts have given extreme leeway in other relatively similar situations. Social Security has been upheld because of the Constitution's "Commerce Clause," which gives the federal government the power to "regulate commerce between the states." Because people sometimes move states, say the courts, their personal retirement decisions are "commerce." Therefore, forcing people to pay into Social Security is "constitutional." I think it's an abuse of the Constitution.
Long answer short: many unconstitutional things are ruled "constitutional." It's unsurprisingly hard to get the government to restrain itself.
But, I'm saying, the distribution system from a century ago isn't going to necessarily be a good model for today because they were distributing a different product back then (ineffective healthcare) compared to today (more effective healthcare).
Not true at all. Health care distribution was much, much more efficient a century ago. The care itself was bad (because of the technology and knowledge), but the distribution and costs were a million times better. Only when the government got involved did costs skyrocket.
The issue is, there are no guarantees on that and I don't want to be stuck holding the bill because too many people thought they would be the never in the hospital guy
That's why people voluntarily buy insurance.
so they refused to pay into a more cost effective system for everybody
But it's not more cost effective. It's only cost effective for the "always in the hospital" guy and those with emergencies - far less than a quarter of the population. For most people, it's a financial detriment.
It's simply a difference in preferences. I would rather keep more of my own money and chose to spend it how I wish, with a health care system that is open to competition and cheaper. You prefer a system in which you pay higher taxes to never have to worry about future medical emergency costs. Neither is "right" or "wrong," it's just what we'd prefer to do with our money.
On a principled level, I just think government should give us that choice. We disagree on this and that's fine. The difference is, in your case, the government uses force to require me to do something. That's what I hate the most, that I have no say. That personal liberty is critical to me.
With that said, I am happy I was able to have this discussion. Health care debates rarely exist without hate, so I appreciate that this was civil and informative. When you have time, I implore you to read this. It might help you understand my side a bit more.
I think this is a 100% bullshit argument but I'll give you an upvote anyway for providing a well-researched and civil summary of a massively divisive topic.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rand's argument at the very least is pretty illogical unless he's also willing to claim that our right to a trial demonstrably equates to conscription for judges, lawyers and varying other professionals in the legal field right now in the present day.
myhipsi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's a bullshit argument at all. You might disagree with the argument, but it's a thoughtful and principled argument nonetheless.
That's why I said I think it's a bullshit argument instead of it is. I know there are perfectly reasonable people who subscribe to it even though they tend not to be the vocal ones. The people who I actually see opposing socialized medical care, though, either suffer from a fundamental misunderstanding of the proposed system (the "you just want everything for free" crowd - also, "free medical care=slave labor" is just delusional) or it's rich people thinking "the lazy poor people want my money!" (e.g., "Those who often need health care benefit from such a system, while those who rarely use it are financially harmed"), both of which I find intolerable. I wish more of them thought it through like /u/Zeralonde.
I understand the rationale that people are "responsible for their own choices and their own health", but how does that apply to people with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt for, say, lifesaving cancer treatments? Or any number of other treatments for conditions not caused by negligence? Or people who forego medical treatments entirely because of the potential cost? Don't I have a right to not suffer from a condition I have no control over?
Perhaps I'd feel differently if the cost of quality medical care was less egregious - and if it was more available - but that ties into wealth inequality, the fuckery of the insurance industry, and all sorts of other things. But what it comes down to for me is there are people suffering, and ensuring people's well being with slightly higher taxes rather than waiting - while they continue to suffer - to address more deeply entrenched social issues first seems well worth it to me. I can't sympathize with people who prioritize marginally lower personal financial costs over the well-being of their fellow Americans.
I don't want things to get heated, but I'll jump in just a little to provide my thoughts.
but how does that apply to people with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt for, say, lifesaving cancer treatments?
Your assumption is that costs remain the same if the system changes, but that's untrue. The extreme cost of health care is a result of the system we currently have, as the government has hindered competition and drastically increased costs. In a true free-market health care system, such procedures wouldn't cost that much to begin with and those who charged them would quickly go out of business.
And we have solid evidence of that. Costs rise at nearly identical rates of government intervention (i.e., costs rise the more government gets involved in American health care). When government (rarely) backs off, costs fall. That's not economic theory - we have proof of it.
So the argument isn't just "pay for what you want/need," it's also the belief that costs will organically fall with free-market health care. So then it's "pay for what you want/need," but it's a ton cheaper.
But really, your comment just points out another way to achieve the same goal I want: get rid of the stupid cost and generally make things better for actual Americans. (I happen to disagree that a "true free market" is the best way to go about that - I put zero faith in corporations' ability to stay honest, and the fact that socialized medical care works just fine in other countries points to a failure in implementation in America rather than an inherent flaw in the concept.) But my point is, we have a mutual goal; if there were a widespread understanding of that mutual goal throughout the US, instead of between two commenters on Reddit, we'd be miles closer to actually solving the problem. But that doesn't seem terribly likely to me, unfortunately.
I'm just happy we can have a legitimate discussion. Most of these debates involve too much hate on both sides.
I happen to think that opening up competition would lower costs to a point where the uninsured wouldn't have to worry about getting procedures (and I have evidence behind it). You happen to think that paying higher taxes to provide government-run health care is more than worth the cost. It's an important debate to have, but healthy debate like this is a must.
Yeah I could buy into that. Now explain to me how insurance companies can charge you for years then refuse your claim due to updates in policy coverage.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand devil's advocate that's why it is fun.
From GA originally currently in VA a insurance company can send a silly email and gain your signature. Does not change the fact that these companies are after the bottom dollar. They will do what is needed to improve their Brand. The US government is interested in keeping healthcare costs down, but care little for targeting the actual contributor of cost.
I live in the UK. I'm fine with waiting in line for treatment. I have been quite unlucky in health in my life. I had an obstruction of the intestines when I was a child, hyperthyroidism as a young adult, have had my tonsils and gallbladder removed, broken my leg twice, arm once and fingers once, and I have depression and anxiety which I get counselling for every week for free. The Nhs and socialist healthcare means I am not bankrupt. If you have a life threatening injury, you will be seen to right away. If you don't, you wait. And that is fine. I would much rather pay my taxes and be well and healthy in mind and body than save money and have to worry about my body breaking down.
And that's perfectly okay. I just wanted to explain the logic to the non-Americans. We would generally rather chose to pay only for what we need, while Europeans generally prefer to pay more in taxes up-front to receive "free" care. There's nothing inherently wrong about either, it's just differences in societal preferences.
Torvaun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your final point indicates that so-called free health care isn't, rather the costs are applied to all of society via taxation. Doesn't that conflict with your initial point, that requiring someone to work for free is literally slavery? No one is being asked to work for free.
Now, given that Medicare is funded from taxes and under government administration, would expanding that system to cover all Americans really represent a massive violation of rights?
I recommend looking at Singapore's healthcare system. Each person pays into a required health savings account, then pays for services on the free market. Government and employers may contribute to this account for the poor. Everyone has a "catastrophic" insurance that covers incidents over some amount (maybe $7k). The insurance is cheap since most never use it.
This system lets the free market dictate costs, subsidizes the poor, and stops people from going into debt over medical costs.
On a separate note, medical boards artificially restrict the number of individuals who become doctors, and one legally has to be a doctor to perform most procedures. Insurance paperwork and malpractice insurance discourage small practices further increasing costs due to decreased competition.
I'm opposed to it on a principled level (in my mind, government shouldn't force you to pay into, well, anything), but it's a very interesting system by the sound of it. Better than what we currently have, so a "step in the right direction" in my mind. Catastrophic insurance to prevent huge debts, but otherwise a free market. Sounds good.
It's never been attempted on a country the size of the USA. 320 million people to insure is a lot more than Japan's 126m (the largest single payer system).
You non-americans always say that, like leaving an injury that's not actively hurting you is THAT bad. I don't know about a jaw fracture, but I mean, if you're not actively bleeding out and about to die, is there really an urgent need to get to the hospital?
Politicians have managed to convince a substantial portion of the voting base to vote against their own self interest through gratuitous use of propaganda.
Essentially to piggy back off of this thought- in the United States people are told that by having socialized healthcare- their taxes will be so high that they won't be able to pay for anything else and that the health care system would be so overwhelmed that they wouldn't be able to get care. The ironic part of all of this is that the majority of Americans who have insurance already pay an ungodly amount in deductibles and monthly fees that come directly out of their pay checks. And with a bit of research would figure out that Canadians don't pay anywhere near in taxes the total that the majority of Americans pay for their insurance that they still have to pay bills even after paying into it monthly. Also the systems are no more overwhelmed then the American health care systems. But people hear what they want to hear.
Edit- words on mobile. Hope it makes sense
PigDog4 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pay 20% of your income for health care? Sure, whatever, I guess.
Have the very rich pay 10% more in taxes to help subsidize health care for everyone ? Fuck no, that's godless social communism!
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:35:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck the media that employs 90% of all journalists is owned by the best buddies of people writing legislation or executives. It's all loosely connected but in aggregate leads to what you see now. Soap boxes for the elites in everyone's home.
Human nature can be blamed to a degree, as it seems people actually like it this way. Who watches CSPAN? No they watch Fox News, CNN, etc. to get some opinions and entertainment with their "news".
I am not sure why it's that way when we can look back to some retired or dead journalists that actually had ethics and integrity, but my operating theory is that more people don't respect knowledge or intelligence than ever. I think it might have something to do with the baby boomers being successful without needing any sort of education. They get the false sense that knowledge or intelligence aren't important, or just another way of viewing the world, rather than an actual information or problem-solving advantage.
Before people could get a middle class wage for doing relatively unskilled work you'd more often see average people living in poverty conditions, and the educated professionals were making bank by comparison. So they look up and respect those people because they have a yard stick to measure them with that they understand.
Nowadays it's like "Well my dad runs a successful small town business so clearly he knows what he's talking about when it comes to macroeconomics!" and people are actually interested in hearing his opinion on a topic he likely has very limited understanding of. What does he actually know about what tariffs do? Not much, likely.
I don't mean to sound elitist, as I am not advocating we fix it by making anyone poor or have less opportunity. It's just an observation.
Just wait, you'll see idiotic extremist conservatives or libertarians come rushing in to defend the system. They think it's unfair that the middle class and upper class have to pay for the healthcare of people who don't pay taxes. They're more concerned about fairness than they are about the fact that people would rather leave illnesses and injuries untreated than go to a doctor. They, along with the Republican party, give the rest of America a bad reputation.
Seicair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait, you'll see idiotic extremist conservatives or libertarians come rushing in to defend the system.
I don't think anyone thinks our current system is good. People just have different views on how to best fix it.
yaosio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Conservatives want to fix it by doing nothing. Just let the poor die and it will fix itself.
Emergency Room takes between an hour or instant, depending on urgency. Doctor costs 20 euros, 15 of which are paid back. Same for most meds. Same for ambulances, if not entirely free.
Expand those horizons of yours past one viewpoint.
I assume Laura died because of lack of care? One person versus hundreds/thousands yearly in the us?
Also, yes, obviously people die in hospitals, it's the people that cannot pay for hospitals I worry about.
Source me up then, I'm willing to learn.
I do need to say, I feel like this isn't explicitly stated anywhere. Personal isurance and social security are the same for an insured person and still cheaper for every party involved. The idea being that anyone above the national minimum living-limit will chip in a few dollars for themselves via the streamlined national insurance. I personally fail to see any downside for you as a party.
Also, looking into the Laura case real quicklike, she died because doctors deemed 5 transplants per month the maximum safe limit, which she did reach under said social security, monthly.
You're paying for a healthcare system that benefits everyone, so it's cutting off your nose to spite your face to deny this system on the grounds of fairness. It also saves you a huge amount of money, and helps the economy. People who couldn't spend as much money before because of medical costs would start spending more, which is good for the overall economy.
This might be a crazy concept for you, but maybe the government should be caring for the people without using other people's tax dollars.
Wait, what? How can a government pay for anything without using everyone's tax dollars? This makes no sense. Unless you think we should be able to pick and choose what the government spends EACH CONTRIBUTOR'S tax money on? So, I hate military spending, so I think none of my money should go there, but I love things like Medicare and the EPA, so I want all of my taxes to support those. That is just not efficient, honestly! I pay my taxes and am fine with some of my dollars going to support the military, even though I personally want it to be a lot less. I am not sure why people who generally pay less taxes than I do begrudge the tiny pittance that pay for things I support.
Individual persons taxes don't make up all money the government has at it's disposal.
You want people to bitch less about welfare and social aid? Show them exactly who their money is supporting. Even then some people aren't going to care.
"Its my money, why should the government get to decide what it pays for."
One problem being that many person oriented needs are profit based. The fact that you can haggle with a hospital is evidence enough.
You would be surprised at the negative kickback you would get from cutting military funding. The military will cut personnel, this causes more people to be unemployed. They cut production contracts, this causes companies to cut personnel, more unemployment. The military also has more unavoidable expenses than you know. But I do approve of a more isolationist government.
My tax "pittance" I look at, and think about what I could be doing with that money.
So they should only build roads that you personally use with your tax dollars? And if you have no kids the schools shouldn't get your money? And you should only get a seniors pension that comes out of your taxes once you're a senior?
This is ridiculous.
It benefits all of society to have the healthiest, best educated society possible - that is how you get a successful, happy, and productive country/economy. Or at least one factor. If a big chunk of your work force can't do the jobs they were trained to do because they can't afford health care (because their shitty job paid them no where near enough and they had to go to work when they were only sort of injured, so they got hurt worse, and now are completely incapable...or something)....
The whole idea of "I'll pay for my own" presumes you live off of luck. Sure, it seems great until you're too sick to work (sometimes through no fault of your own), or you have a kid who's sick so one parent has to stay home AND you still have to pay bills, or you assume you'll never be in any sort of accident...
Do you really, honestly, think you'll live a completely healthy life and suddenly die in your sleep one day? Or are you a 'only rich people deserve to be healthy' person?
I believe in using my tax dollars to fund things that directly affect and assist me. Infrastructure benefits me directly without it goods wouldn't be transported.
My taxes dollars paying for someone's healthcare does not directly affect and assist me.
Im sure you can think up scenarios that show this idea is flawed but you get the point.
Considering how expensive school and property taxes are in my area, so much so that it effects my housing, yet how little they get used efficently gives me a right to complain about how expensive they are.
You describe basic economic hardship, head over to r/personalfinance, and see what they recommend.
The health industry is based around for profit, this is quite a problem I agree, it should be cheaper for a person to stay healthy.
I don't even understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying taxes that go to healthcare would not benefit you? Healthcare that you will and have used. That your family will and have used?
You realize that the US pays more for healthcare in insurance and deductibles, than the majority of first world countries do for full medical coverage? You could literally pay the same amount of money you already do, or less, or slightly more. To get better care for you and your family, while also supporting the rest of the fucking country. But you won't do that, because you think that people who can't afford exorbitant insurance prices in a for-profit healthcare system are leeches? What a joke.
My parents always had job offered healthcare, I've always had job offered healthcare. I've never relied on the system. Therfor they do not directly benefit me.
I'm paying for someone else and myself. Its like me knocking on your door and asking you for money, are you gonna give it to me, or are you gonna want a reason?
Again the government is responsible for its citizens. I don't care how they pay for it, unless it comes out of my taxes when it doesn't benefit me. It's like you don't realize what society we live in. I'm trying to make it, I need all the money I can get, any money I get taxed for better god damn well be used to benefit me.
My parents always had job offered healthcare, I've always had job offered healthcare. I've never relied on the system. Therfor they do not directly benefit me.
Oh so it's free? Oh wait, I'll bet they take it out of what they would normally pay you to get these benefits! Almost like you're inadvertently paying for healthcare!
Employer: "I want an employee that costs me 60k dollars a year. I know, I'll offer him a job for 55k dollars a year, and give him shitty job offered healthcare for free! We'll call it a benefit! Plus I'll make a profit on him, because this healthcare only costs me 4k a year. And he'll think he's getting out ahead!"
I'm paying for someone else and myself. Its like me knocking on your door and asking you for money, are you gonna give it to me, or are you gonna want a reason?
"Excuse me sir, we're here to collect the money that would normally go to your healthcare for you and your wife. But instead it's going to go to a socialized healthcare where you help pay for the entire country, and all of those in need! Don't worry you will have the same coverage, and absolutely nothing will change about your level of care!"
You: "Absolutely not! I will not pay for to help someone else under any circumstance unless it directly benefits me! Take my money but only if it only goes for my care. Somebody who really needs help could use that, but they don't deserve it because they obviously don't work hard enough. I don't support leeches on my dime!"
I'm trying to make it, I need all the money I can get, any money I get taxed for better god damn well be used to benefit me.
"I'm a money-whoring selfish prick who will shoot himself in the foot as long as it will affect those who are worse off than me."
You think we all don't work to survive? There's a difference between caring where your money goes and being intentionally ignorant and selfish. Of course I'm mad it's people with these beliefs that can literally ruin people's livelihoods because of their selfishness. It's so pointless, you're literally fighting against your own self-interest and the self-interest of your entire country. And you think you're doing the right thing.
There is no right or wrong in this situation it's entirely subjective. You're speaking of morality.
It's not selfish to worry about your own personal needs before others when you can only care for yourself. I can afford my needs and a few of my wants. I should not by any means be resonsible for other people unless I decide upon it or am obligated, it's not right for a person to be made to shoulder the burdens of others without a choice.
That's literally the purpose of taxes. You are giving part of your money to the government so they can help the whole country. Your taxes are literally paid to help everyone.
If you're worried about buying the news game system, updating your TV, eating out all the time, etc...then it is about selfishness.
I am lucky enough to live in Canada. A close find of mine is 30 and has had cancer 7 times. If he lived in the states he'd be dead because there's no way to predict this shit and who has the savings to deal with all those treatments at 22 (when he got diagnosed the first time). Oh, and he can't work because of still being sick, nerve damage, intestinal issues, chrones disease, and lupus - which are a result of the cancer treatments.
But fuck him, right? You're healthy, so tough shit to everyone else who got the shitty end of the genetic lottery.
And yes, this pisses me off because I am talking about real human people. You are talking about some abstract and non-existant asshole, not realizing that it could easily be you tomorrow, or next year, or in 10 years.
I don't believe in wishing people ill. I hope you never have to experience why your Healthcare system is so fucked up...but maybe consider that every other country in the first world has a point and maybe it's you (personally, and the US as a whole) who has this wrong.
Your system lets people die as well, Laura Hillier.
I don't wish people ill.
He wouldn't be dead, I was on my parents insurance until I turned 25. Our system also looks out for people such as he.
I don't even want to argue with you anymore, you shouldn't have anything to say about a system you don't live under. Stay in Canada and enjoy your system that works for your country. When it works for the United States then your opinion will matter.
If it's any consolation I worry about affording a house and getting married, not innane shit.
Yes, but not because they were unlucky enough to be broke. No Healthcare system is perfect, but my opinion is that we've got a more humane one. Comparatively.
You're assuming his parents would have had insurance. They wouldn't have been able to afford it and his dad's job wasn't the kind that would have had insurance.
I do enjoy our system, there are flaws for sure, but it's better. My point is that 'your way' isn't better, it's more expensive, has poorer outcomes statistically, and leaves the most vulnerable out to dry.
On a funny note, I have similar personal concerns. Although it's keeping our house and getting married. Not so different. But my SO has type 1 diabetes, so we'd be much worse off if we were in the US.
yaosio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The interstate system is funded by the federal government. This means any highways you don't personally use should be defunded, right?
Everyone in the thread that's wondering what makes American so fucking backward... THIS right here. This is the shit we're dealing with. Vast percentages of the population have these incredibly complex reasoning skills. Vast percentages of the population have this profound lack of empathy. Look no further if you're still wondering how someone like Trump could get elected to be the POTUS. People like this are out there voting in droves. It's just really fuckin sad.
Why should I pay for someone else? Because it's the empathetic thing to do? I already have to care for myself and my family, so I should be responsible for other people because reasons?
The government is responsible for disadvantaged people, not me. The government should foot the bill without my money. My family has worked for everything they have, back when they got off the boat there were none of these programs. I could relate to you a number of anecdotes of my family growing up poor and with want. But you already have an idea of the person I am, so believe whatever you want.
...but how do you propose the specific use of your taxes? How much taxes do you pay that you alone could make a specific economic dent ? Is this special tax thing just for you or does everyone get to do it? f taxes are being paid then where else would the government get money to pay for it if everyone picked?
I think the point everyone's trying to make here is that in terms of healthcare, you would be better off. With more money left in your pocket at the end of the day if America had universal healthcare. Not that it's the "right" thing to do or as some socialist dream. You and most other Americans would be financially better off under a universal healthcare system because you would personally pay less for the same level of care. It's a business decision at this point, not a declaration for your love of socialism.
You don't give a shit about fairness. All you care about is to get as much as possible with no regard to the suffering of others.
You are just trying to somehow justify being a selfish asshole. Trying to convince us that it is perfectly fine to not give a shit about others. That you haveing a few dollars more in your pocket is absolutely more important then people dying because they can't afford medical care.
So yes, you are a selfish asshole who doesn't give a shit about fairness.
So basically, you are even worse. Not only are you unwilling to contribute anything. You are even taking the position, that the government should just magic money into existence to pay for things.
You are not only a selfish asshole. You are an idiot on top of it.
Yes, yes. As I said. You totally want them to pay, just as long as you don't have to contribute anything. It's all about someone else who should pay. You simply are unwilling to contribute to society. But naturally, you happily take all the advantages.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:40:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our socio-economic-ethnic-racial-political history makes us more susceptible to believe in scapegoats instead of fixing broken systems. The 1% takes advantage of said anxieties and makes huge profits.
This is why medical bankruptcy, private prisons, contracted prison labor, the war on drugs, Prohibition, Jim Crow, mistrust of police, etc have been things in our history.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:31:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are people out there who care, and you might be able to qualify for some lower cost therapy. Consider asking your local social services department? Or free support lines?
sjhaines ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it's only going to get worse!
Cajim92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:10:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the UK ye sure we have to wait a few months for a knee replacement or what not but it is completely free
I would buy this, except he said it was an OPEN fracture. that means the skin is broken and the bones are sticking out. there is no way that isn't bothering her/freaking her the fuck out
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes, good point. Yeah, that definitely changes things and she had to have been in some serious pain (unless there's enough nerve damage that she couldn't feel it? I don't know enough about this).
. Someone out there was claiming an injury this serious wasn't bothering her. It sounds like the potential costs for care bothered her more. :(
Besides, would you rather be someone doctors take seriously, or that hypochondriac who comes in for a tiny cut? I wait a few days to see if something gets better too.
Forgot to mention both pieces were clearly moveable. I could easily move both sides of her jaw independent of each other. Kinda like those vampires in Blade.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've never been without insurance or reasonable means to pay for medical expenses, huh? This isn't something new among those either without insurance or without the means to afford the expenses after insurance is applied. Even a few thousand can cripple a family. It's less that she lacks the understanding that she needed medical care, and more that she had the hope she wouldn't need it.
You're a presumptuous one aren't ya? I have been without medical coverage before starting working. She was a victim of assault. Many states including mine pay for assault victims medical care. She also has Medicaid which covers some of the costs too. She would have been mostly if not fully covered. This was not a chronic illness. This is equal to having a compound fracture leg or being shot. It's not something anyone with half a brain would put off. Also she could sell her iPhone she was using to help if all else fails. Please think before you speak.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your first post did not mention the possibility of assault. In fact, it wasn't until another redditor brought up the possibility that you were like "oh yeah that was probably it".
Your first post was "WTF why didn't this lady get medical attention right away?", which obviously demonstrated how little you understood what it is like to have medical care out of reach.
Medical care was not out of reach for her. Do you know how to read? Her procedure would have been covered. She stated she was punched. It was assault. Also I'm not sure what comment you're talking about. The one you're referencing is prob the one about fear of retaliation from her attacker. I'd advise reading some dr seuss. It's more your level.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That you resort to childish insults shows how immature you are. And it seems you are the one in need of reading comprehension lessons, since your first comment:
Lady had a broken jaw. She comes in after 2 weeks with an open mandible fracture. Referred her to the hospital for immediate surgery. She never went bc it "doesn't bother her and she'll see if it gets better".
has nothing about the assault or any other "facts" you are citing. Not to mention you made that top comment, in the context of a medical professional having to explain basic common sense or knowledge to an adult. Hence, your top comment is interpreted as "I can't believe this lady didn't understand she needed immediate medical attention!"
However, you are arguing that facts later discussed (and not mentioned in your top comment and not even originating from you) are relevant to your top comment. But if that is the case, then the context of your top comment is completely opposite of the AskReddit question, as the context now reads as "This patient was experiencing domestic violence and was afraid to seek medical attention for her broken jaw." That is not a "WTF what is this adult thinking!?" that is "This is a sad example of the effects of Domestic Violence."
Do try to refrain from childish insults in the future, if you cannot even keep track of the substance and meaning of your own words.
Oh man sorry I seemed to have triggered you. No one said this was definitely domestic violence. You do alot of inferring and seem to think that qualifies as facts. Typical lack of critical thinking. And to assume someone doesn't know what it's like to not have health care when you don't know them is foolish. Anyway have a nice day. I'm done. I have to get back to work. You prob don't
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment now:
no one said this was definitely domestic violence
A couple comments above:
She stated she was punched. It was assault.
The one you're referencing is prob the one about fear of retaliation from her attacker.
Again, you will want to keep track of the substance and meaning of what you write. You will also want to look up the definition of "triggered", as I am not the one freaking out and getting angry, or making childish comments about the status of my employment and work.
Geez man. Do I have to spoon feed everything to you? Assault is not the same as domestic violence. Yes the other comment we were talking about possibility of her being afraid of her attacker. Again.. Possibility. Possibility does not mean definitely.
I broke bones in my hand and cracked a vertebrate as a teenager. Never did anything about them at the time, they just hurt for awhile and eventually it went a way.
Same case as mine. Took a fall a couple of years ago. I suspected my right knee took a big hit, but didn't really pay much attention to it since I don't have insurance, and not really earning much. Now, I can feel my knee creaking every now and then (though no pain yet)
Yeah...to be fair, some of us are just dumb when it comes to pain. I've broken my leg twice, fractured my ankle, broken my wrist and most of my fingers and toes in various sports and dumbass related events. Not once have I immediately sought medical care. I usually laugh, try to limp it off, feel really sick and sit back down and then the feeling passes and forget about it for a few days. I only really wind up going when the massive bruise and swelling won't go away. After the initial queasiness, I've never experienced that much pain from a break and...also I'm dumb.
moration ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in cancer and regularly have patients that treat their cancer with "diet and nutrition". They come to us after that doesn't work.
As a poor college student with no insurance who has been sick for 4 consecutive months, I can understand the "I'll get better" mindset.
I know.
It's time to take out the insurance loan.
I'm pretty sure I broke my toe during a party considering how much it hurt and the condition it's in now but I just don't like to bother people when it comes to ailments
I once had to explain to a friend of mine that sex doesn't "give women curves," referring to breasts, ass, and the curve of their sides. He literally thought that was the only way. This was after he called this little 10 year old girl a slut because she was already starting to develop.
That thinking could have come from his parents or grandparents. I was once told that when a girl starts to develop a belly that it meant she was sexually active. It was called "peter belly". This was something my mom learned in the fifties and girls were judged by the fact that their belly's were no longer flat. (I laughed at her in disbelief)
Lol idk! The amount of guys that I have talked to that think their dicks have like magical powers is incredible.
I'm gay and you could not even begin to imagine how many times guys have said to me, "well I bet if you let me fuck you you would be straight!" Like.. no dude, that's not how any of this works.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL TRYING TO BADLY HIT ON YOU AND YOU WERE OBLIVIOUS. (I mean they were, but it's a lot funnier to me imagining a gay guy turn down a slew of curious straight men because he was so oblivious)
So, not a doctor but I work at a hospital.
We had someone come into A&E because they needed their nails redoing...
They genuinely thought it was a good idea to go to accident and emergency to have their fake nails taken off and redone because they had gotten too long and become uncomfortable.
ED nurse here. I looked after a lady who came in because her false lashes were causing her pain. No infections or anything. She just couldn't get them off.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 00:59:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We didn't actually know what to do, because nobody working that day had ever had individual lashes! We were basically like... "maybe go back to the beautician and ask them how to get them off?"
That's kind of scary. I figured a hospital would at least maybe google that to see if they could help. Eye infections are a real threat. If someone gets their arm stuck in a tailpipe, do you send them to a mechanic?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:36:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Your son needs open heart surgery."
But he only had his arm caught in a tailpipe!
"It's a good thing we caught this trouble early, ma'am."
I had them once and I DID pull some of my lashes out because the coconut oil I kept applying to them wasn't doing a god damn thing. They were bothering me so much I was beyond reason at that point.
Never doing that again.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oils or Vaseline are really good for removing makeup, they may work for lashes I'd imagine :)
Hell, I have to go down to the ED recently because I got a body fluid in my eye at work recently (hospital policy). I felt bad being there when a man was telling that his wife was in pain (she kept weakly motioning for him to calm down) and I went in front of them.
I can't imagine the sort of people that treat the ED like some sort of grocery store or whatever.
Right, but someone with fake nails isn't a patient, they're a burden on the whole system. I get what you're saying, but you're defending the parasites thinking you're helping the host.
I'm actually precisely 30, and I'm perfectly aware of my assholery, it's not an accident. I'm also correct in this case - try offering a counter argument, or explain why I'm wrong, instead of making wild assumptions that are irrelevant to the situation at hand.
I'm 32 and I took a guy to the hospital for a "seizure" because he got caught breaking into a car. He was so sick that during one of his "seizures" on the way to the hospital he helped us move him into a more comfortable position on the gurney. Also, a miracle happened! After "seizing" for several minutes, upon arrival at the emergency room he said "I'm leaving" and got up and left. No postictal shit or anything! WE SAVED HIM!
Parasites, breh. They exist and live among us.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 07:35:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I have 2 of these stories. First, I had to explain to my 70-year-old grandmother that women's bellybuttons have nothing to do with conception. She thought if you didn't have a bellybutton you couldn't have a baby.
Second. When I was in my 20s, a coworker about the same age came into the office looking distraught. I asked if she was ok. She told me that she thought she might need to see a doctor. After a few more questions she tells me that she and her boyfriend were messing around. He was fingering her when suddenly she couldn't breathe, lost control of her muscles, her heart was pounding so fast, etc. and when it was over she was kind of weak and flushed. She thought it might have been a seizure. I got to inform her that she had an orgasm.
cbcfan ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 12:26:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My goodness, your poor coworker. I bet you really improved her life with that information!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:31:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was certainly a relief that she didn't have some health crisis going on - although I wanted to go bleach my brain after hearing more details than I wrote here
UberUSB ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She thought if you didn't have a bellybutton you couldn't have a baby.
She's not wrong. If you don't have a belly button, you don't exist, hence, no kids.
Not a Doctor but when I was in Afghanistan a local man came up to us on patrol with his hand wrapped in a sheet. He was in visible pain and was asking for a doctor, so we got the medic to go see him and I helped unwrap his hand and it was just fucking huge. He'd cut his hand very badly and, for whatever reason, kept it submerged in diesel for three days before seeking help. His hand appeared to have soaked up a shit load of diesel, or it was just infected to fuck but it resembled a water balloon and lightly touching it caused it to piss liquid. It was naaaasty.
yup, that's basically what happened with my dad - the lube oil that got into a puncture wound on his hand had some passengers along for the ride and a couple of them were fucking wicked nasty. he was legitimately concerned that they were going to float the option of just amputating to save him, because the infection he developed was insane and nothing they had could do more than slow it down - they had to create a custom antibiotics cocktail for him.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:27:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean WD in WD-40 stands for Water Displacement. The majority of the human body is made up of water so it's obviously not a good idea to get that stuff in an orifice.
Dirus ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:16:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, now I know how fucking dangerous it is to get this shit into a wound and an eye or whatever. Is there a way to handle it if it happens by accident?
Well there's a couple things you should do. If you get something in your eye that shouldn't be in your eye you should flush it out/hold a water soaked cloth on it for 15 minutes to help get foreign matter out. Should also call poison control immediately if swallowed. And I'm not sure of the reasoning but you're typically never supposed to induce vomiting to try to get rid of it if you did swallow it (liquids anyways). Learned that from a very young age growing up on a farm with liquids like pesticides, herbicides, WD-40, anhydrous, etc.. being common. And be cautious around acids, that shit can burn your skin. And also if you're in an environment with a lot of fumes with little airflow you need to get fresh air obviously. Some farmers have died because of working in silos or bunker silos with silage that's fermenting. The silage puts out a ton of gas fairly quickly and it's heavier than air, so it displaces the air and asphyxiates you. Same thing goes for being in a garage with a running car with the garage doors closed or using aerosol cans indoors. A lot of shit can kill you or harm you if you don't know what you're doing. Some gases are odorless while some like anhydrous and gasoline vapors have a very strong smell btw.
Pretty much everything has a warning label on it with instructions of what to do if something that shouldn't happen does occur. But yeah, if something gets in your eye, flush that shit out. You only get 2 eyes and you can cause permanent damage to them pretty easily if not taken care of
It's because of what vomiting up those substances can do to your esophagus. If it's in your stomach you can get some neutralizing agents in there or get it pumped, but just vomiting it up is going to burn your throat to hell.
Tini_531 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medstudent here, it's true. It can cause some serious damage to your esophagus/mouth/teeth to vomit up certain substances. That and usually the induced vomiting doesn't clear out the stomach entirely anyway, so you have to have your stomach pumped either way. Better to pump it out without extra damage or give a neutralizing substance.
Ugh that freaks me out!! A while ago I accidentally sprayed WD-40 in my eye and I called poison control and they just said rinse thoroughly, and thankfully it didn't get infected. Makes me appreciate my eyesight more!
And we are rapidly approaching a time where no custom antibiotic cocktail would have saved the arm.
Simba7 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:42:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Antibiotic resistance of rare strains of bacteria are not a huge concern. It's the common stuff that's developing resistance.
PHealthy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rare? Most likely it was C. perfringens or P. aeruginosa both extremely common and easily acquire resistance.
heiferly ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just seeing the names of these little buggers makes all the hair on my arms and neck stand on end.
ciny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kind of afraid to ask but - what do the little buggers do?
heiferly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't have those two in particular. I just had the intensely bad fortune to have bacteremia (blood infection) with sepsis three times in 2016. Once complicated with a totally unrelated PE, and once complicated by (related) septic eboli in my lungs. So when I see those bacterial or fungal creepy little names, it really strikes fear into my heart at this point. I'm really hoping to have a better track record this year. Having sepsis feels more awful than it sounds (if that's possible); I don't recommend it.
ETA: My culprits were yeast, serratia marcescens, MSSA (the "good" kind of staph), and something I'm forgetting at the moment (I had a two-fer one of the times I was septic).
So I couldn't find any one paper that spells it out exactly, but this passage from Davies and Davies, 2010 sums up nicely what I found:
Different genera, species, strains, etc., exhibit ranges of antibiotic response phenotypes. Since the beginning of this millennium, the availability of genomewide mutagenesis techniques and rapid bacterial genome sequencing has revealed many potential/intrinsic gene functions in bacteria that may lead to resistance phenotypes in clinical situations.
Sorry if that link is behind a paywall. One caveat that I thought of is that a lot of our genome sequencing has only been done decades after widespread antibiotics use started. It seems to me that it would take some serious bioinformatics research to determine that these genes are truly endogenous and not due to some horizontal gene transfer event that happened between the introduction of antibiotics and the advent of genome sequencing. Another confounding issue is that some antibiotics are produced naturally by microbes in the environment and these environmentally derived molecules could give rise to resistance independent of any anthropogenic antibiotics induced resistance.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:22:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But we are approaching (albeit not as rapidly) the future of robotic prosthetics comparable to real arms :/
For possible future reference what was the cocktail and how did they decide what the mix would be?
wztnaes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:34:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but I'm a doctor. It would basically be just 2 or 3 different antibiotics (likely given intravenously) with different spectrums of action. Probably informed by microbiology tests of the wound site - the lab grows a bacterial culture of samples taken from the infected area and tests available antibiotics to find which ones the bacteria are resistant or sensitive to.
Thanks for the info. I was treated with a anti biotic cocktail 6 years ago and that was how it was administered. It took a month and was so aggressive my veins collapsed... amongst other delights but I haven't needed antibiotics since, used them all๐. I๐N.H.S
Not the commenter you're replying to but my gut reaction to custom cocktail was "sounds expensive" Idk how much I'd pay to save a hand, particularly a non-dominant hand - so I'm gonna keep away from diesel and hope I never find out.
Air can kill you, but you're not going to stay away from that either
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Howe expensive do you think it would be? The only way it would cost more than a few hundred would be if you don't have insurance, and even then it wouldn't be in the 10s of thousands. You wouldn't spend 8K (a randomly high number) to keep one of your hands? Wtf.
I mean, the side effects of antibiotics can be quite unpleasant, but compared to losing a limb... It's not like the one where your skin falls off is even very common.
heiferly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And really, when it's necrotizing fasciitis vs. Stephens-Johnson ... six of one, half dozen of the other?
I know a guy named Steven Johnson, and I said to him once, "Steve, whenever I see your full name somewhere, I picture your skin falling off." He thinks I'm weird now.
Would you like some ibuprofen to deal with the pain of the hand? Or better yet, how about some legit barbituates to actually make you not suffer, since you're in a hospital and that's one of the rare times you can actually enjoy them (are barbituates still used? I think so)
But if all this modern medicine has you worried, there's always penicillin!
Oh my god you may have just shed light on why I caught C. Difficile out of nowhere at age 19.
Thank.
You.
Seriously.
heiferly ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is SUPREMELY contagious and the spores hang out all over the place after an infected person uses the bathroom ... which is about all they get done doing the whole time they're infected ... which can last months. Most likely you caught it from using a bathroom that had been used previously by a person infected with CDiff and not properly quarantined and sterilized with chlorine bleach. (Alcohol hand sanitizer isn't effective against CDiff, so people who use that instead of soap and water are more likely to spread the infection if they have it, but even the most careful person can end up infecting others inadvertently.)
wait so are you saying that i can contract this from someone else after using the toilet? god dammit
heiferly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if you're at the hospital, they literally put up a sign and "decommission" a bathroom the second you're done using it if you have CDiff, until they can get someone to go in and specially clean and sterilize the bathroom. But people with CDiff don't live in hospitals the whole time they're sick; in fact, people with healthy immune systems may never step foot in a hospital the whole time they're infected with it. So they're out and about in the regular world, using toilets in bathrooms that aren't getting immediately shut down and may literally NEVER get a cleaning thorough enough to kill CDiff (worst case scenario, obv). I had it for six months, and held my diarrhea on 2 hour car rides to avoid using public restrooms and potentially infecting others, but I doubt most people are so considerate.
smanta02 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:14 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had C. Difficile. Toronto hospitals made me use the public ER bathrooms, KNOWING I tested positive. No one would give me a commode. I asked them to put a sign on the bathroom at the very least, and make sure no one used it. None of the nurses cared. It was disturbing... they were educated about the infectious bacteria.. I had to plead repeatedly to use an isolated toilet.
My C. Difficile infection showed up after I took antibiotics. I was told that everyone has the bacteria in them, but it's kept in check from over-colonizing by "good" bacteria.
I had the infection for over 1 month before anyone took me seriously enough to do tests, because of my age & stature. I was 19 at the time. I had to go to the ER every other day for IV fluids because of endless bowel movements. By the time they caught it, I was going to the bathroom 42 times per day.
Since the infection, although my stools no longer test positive, my immune system has been destroying my nerves and organs, 5 years later. Severely disabled with a low quality of life.
Who knows how many people could have been infected from using the same bathroom.
As a side note though, I do NOT understand how the people I live with did NOT get sick.
Very interesting! Thank you kindly for sharing those details with me/us all.
Unfortunately, as much as I hate to say it, I do not recall any procedures of putting a Bathroom in quarantine even though they had me in the Maternity Ward as an Overflow patient. (Quite common in this area of Canada, at least)
What I do find even more odd, is that I was never told, "C. Difficile is still living and contagious in your system," let alone, "This is what C. Diff is or does," except the vague explanation of transferring from person to person in Nursing Homes and Paliative Care, if at all. Google helped me learn further about the virus about 4mos ago when I began seeing a Chyropractor and he read it in my previous medical documents. Only then had I actually learned I caught the virus..
Nursing staff and Docs were puzzled someone my age and stature caught the virus in the first place, although at the same time, it didn't sound it was worth trying to figure out where I caught it from, either. I don't visit nursing homes, because many family members work as Home Care Assistants and refuse to put their own loved ones through such a thing. Since that's all I could ever come up with, even with a .ca version of Google, I didn't learn much on avoidance until this thread of comments.
Now that you mention it being this contagious, I'm definitely going full Howie Mandel when I need a public washroom. Mega Merci.
I have no clue to this date how it was contracted, but the likelihood of it being through diesel fuel would be quite plausible if it's so common to be tainted. Especially considering I used to help my best friend work her gas station shift, since her boss was her grandfather didn't the mind extra free help. We've shared smokes and everything; probably just as bad as a contaminated toilet-- if, like I said-- tainted diesel truly is so common.
The whole topic just set off a major curiosity bell in my mind, that's all. Unfortunately, the whole ordeal doesn't seem the easiest to avoid contracting once again.. Although, I'm sure a compromised immune system probably didn't help avoiding it in the first place. After this past year, my immune system's strength has been my top priority. That shit was scary, no pun intended.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:52:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happens to jet fuel. We have to test for that shit at certain intervals.
I mean, jet fuel (Jet-A and Jet-A1) is essentially diesel. All flight mechanics I know (I know a few seeing as I went to school to be one myself) drive diesel cars, because before they start major work on a plane they have to drain the tanks. That goes straight into their cars...
You can always add a lubricant. With ULSD and an injection pump that wasn't designed for it I add a small bottle of 2-stroke oil at every fill up. I would imagine something like that would be a good idea if your using jet fuel in a diesel engine.
Kinda-sorta. This is what happens when a small amount of water gets in the fuel system of a bio-diesel truck. Bound to happen in Florida, and if that truck sits in the heat for a long time (see: Florida) the bio part (living stuff ~sort of~) starts to grow. Eventually it clogs all the filters and you have to remove the tank, drain it and purge all the lines. Real headache. Happens every summer to about 5-10 of our trucks.
You can get a special additive called Biocide that kills this stuff but we don't use it.
There was a thread recently over in /r/hydro about using UV light to kill off algae blooms. Wonder if diesel tanks should come with a 12V UV light these days.
You should see the slurry I drain out of my tanks in my boat sometimes. It's a dark gray gooey slurry that barely even smells like diesel. However, since I started using Grotamar 82 there has been a significant difference.
As a side note, the bacteria doesn't actually grow in the diesel itself, they grow in water suspended in the diesel.
where the fuck would anyone get the idea to use diesel fuel as a cleaning agent or whatever? Like what the hell was he trying to accomplish submerging his hand in FUEL? Is that like some misunderstood battlefield medic technique?
I mean gasoline probably would have worked OK as a disinfectant. It's not a great choice, and you definitely don't want to dunk your whole hand in it, but swabbing a bit on if you don't have any alcohol, peroxide, or iodine isn't a terrible choice. Hell, even the diesel likely wouldn't have been a terrible idea if he'd lit it first and let most of it burn before swabbing it; the heat would probably have destroyed anything growing in it.
Soaking a wound in the stuff, on the other amputated hand, was a terrible idea. Besides the shit growing in it, there's a LOT of benzene in diesel (and gasoline), which gets into the blood, seeps into the bone marrow, and fucks up the tissue permanently, causing anemia.
so the idea is that gasoline is so caustic that it can kill bacteria, so better than nothing in an absolute emergency, i.e. stranded in the mountains days away from medical resources?
Well that's how we got the Lambent in Gears of War.
teuchuno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aye we had diesel bug on a ship I was working on. Coated all the filters etc, was an absolute bastard to get rid of.
A lot more common these days as during the refining process a lot more sulphur is removed. So the products of combustion no longer cause quite as much acid rain, but the sulphur had an anti bacterial action which is now absent from the fuel. Ergo, more diesel bug.
This is why the military trains fuel specialists, which everyone makes fun of until their generator is empty at 0300.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A couple worker of mine got flesh eating bacteria after working in an oil well in dubai for Haliburton. His whole crew had to strip down asked and burn their clothes while a hazmat team came and costed them in a blue substance
They were quarantined for at least 3 days.
The bacteria is used to keep an oil well from deteriorating.
I am a biologist, and I should know, but the truth is that I would have never imagined something like this... diesel fuel becoming infectious... live to learn!
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 1823 points ยท Posted at 21:35:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. I know the chances had to have been miniscule, but did he keep the hand?
I honestly don't know. There wasn't much we could do on the ground, so we called in a helicopter and sent him back to Bastion, to the Role 3 Hospital. I can't imagine he managed to keep it.
[deleted] ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 23:55:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the...pleasure...of going to the Role 3 on Kandahar, and it was a super nice hospital. The Ophthalmologist (Navy Captain) I saw was awesome, but Kandahar is the absolute worst. I spent ~2 years on Dwyer and liked it, but heard Leatherneck was shitty.
Other comments seem to indicate they're talking about a "Camp Bastion" which apparently has an insanely good hospital. I'm not sure how that fits with the tone of that comment though.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:17:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was 3 camps combined, bastion was the British site, leatherneck was the US site and shoraback (I think that's how you spell it) was the Afghan site. BLS
The surgery team at the Role 3 were some of the best Surgeons in the world, so he very well may have.
Sam-Gunn ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 23:08:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he was thinking of "meatball surgery" in the field to triage and stop the immediate issues from the battlefield as opposed to real, full blown, back in the base w/ time and a lot of supplies, surgeons.
taws34 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even primary care. Our docs are good.
jpallan ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them. I'd sooner pull out my own teeth with pliers than see an army dentist, and I'd rather treat my yeast infection with kerosene lit on fire than see an army gynecologist.
I served in the army reserves as a medic and I loved my training and the no-bullshit attitude I get from military doctors, but there are a couple of types of military medical providers that are just dreadful.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Non military here. Tons of respect for you though. Can you guys go to like an urgent care or redi med? I have really good insurance through work and I rarely go see my PCP. Almost always see urgent care.
mss5333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Medics and corpsmen can do very little outside of the military. Urgent care centers are usually staffed by what are known as "mid-level" providers in the US: PA's and NP's.
Don't get me wrong- military medics get some great training, but as someone who has worked with them in military hospitals and clinics, and someone who is pursuing medical school while married to a PA, the difference in training is vast.
I would trust a PA/NP over a medic or corpsman almost any day of the week... Unless I was just shot or on my way outb of this world outside of a clinical setting. Of course, a PA/NP trained in emergency medicine or surgery is a whole different story.
I have mad respect for my medic and corpsmen friends. They do some amazing things with very little resources under extreme conditions. Still, there is an undeniable difference in earning a master's or doctorate in medicine vs. even the most intense military medic program. In the end, they're simply different roles.
mss5333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"E4 tries to kill me with a pick"
Sooooooo true. You didn't want that enamel, did you???
My FIL was an air force dentist, trained initially in the Vietnam era so he's near retirement these days. Best, most gentle, and most pragmatic dentist I've ever seen. His approach is like if a civil engineer decided to build shit in your mouth.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all of them. Walked into the clinic once during regular sick call with a lymph node in my neck swollen to the size of an egg. The nurses assistant (?) asked me what was wrong, so I just tilted my head back a bit and pointed. Several other people came to look, then told me all they could do was check for strep or schedule an appointment. Soonest was in two weeks. Figured I'd be dead or okay by then, said fuck it.
Went in and actually saw a doc for back pain. Doc was in the room for about 20 seconds, wrote a scrip for Vitamin M and sent me to physical therapy. Physical therapy hurt like hell. Stuck it out for a month or so, went back and saw a different doctor. Second doc says "Ohh, I have the same problem! Here's what you do." Went on to tell me to take 3 tennis balls, put them in a sock, tie it shut, and put it between a wall and my back and rub around on it every so often to alleviate pain... Talked to a few friends who said I needed a good chiropractor, go to such and such, he does military discount. (Medicare apparently doesn't believe in chiropractors). Kept going to physical therapy. Asked about chiropractic care. Said it's a farce, doesn't really help in the long run. Went anyway, told me exactly what was wrong before xray confirmed it, gave me an adjustment. Hadn't felt that pain free in years. Had to keep going to physical therapy (got in trouble for not going for a week). Realized PT was giving me EXACT same adjustments as my chiropractor. He just sucked at it.
TL;DR - Military experiences (and doctors) vary. Most doctors I met gave no fucks about you.
Yeah man. I burst a disk in my lumbar, went through months of PT, 2 steroid injections into the spine, and spent the better part of a year in awful pain. Then I went to a chiropractor, and in a week I felt 90% better. I understand some chiropractors are into the voodoo shit, but a lot of them treat it as a form of PT, and fuck anyone who says it doesn't work.
My friend hurt his back during an airborne jump. He went to the hospital and they put him on limited duty, no PT and gave him some pain medication. After about 4 months of him going to army hospital asking for X-rays he said fuck it and went to his home town hospital got it Xrayed. Turns out he broke his spine and required emergency surgery. I was had to drive him to hospital because his boss thought he was faking and one of the medics asked me ASKED ME how he wasn't dead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most I've been to charge a $100 fee the first time around. That's consultation, xray, and adjustment. After that its between $25-40, most common price is usually 35. Adjustment and therapy. I know its a little pricey especially when you're dead broke, but ultimately worth it.
riptaway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:55:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hit or miss. The good ones are very good because they're the people who couldn't have afforded to be a doctor unless they did it through the military. So they're the ones who really want it.
The bad ones hate the military, hate soldiers, hate the conditions, etc, because they could have just gone to school and straight to a civilian job, but couldn't hack it and had to take a spot in the military. They're not great doctors, never will be, and resent having to service a bunch of dumb military grunts
Yeah dude, not in my experience. Some are wonderful, others accuse you of malingering even though your OIC, Company Gunnery Sergeant, and 1st Sergeant all saw you twist your ankle and vouch for you. And your injured ankle is half again as large as the normal one.
Thank God for Independent Duty Corpsmen.
casparh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. He's medevaced in as a civilian, probably listed as urgent surgical. He's likely high priority from a civil affairs perspective as well (but that doesn't matter officially, it's all about the 9-line and then how he presents during triage)
I am not a care provider but to the best of my knowledge "submerged in diesel for three days" plus the description of "pissing liquid to the lightest touch" sounds like the entire hand went necrotic. Tissues don't come back from the dead.
I'm sure his almost guaranteed amputation went without complication.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:34:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't really that bad
taws34 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:04:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you. US Army limb salvage is some of the best on the planet.
You'd be amazed at some of the shit our medical providers can do.
taws34 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. I'm an Army Physical Therapy Assistant. I've done three clinical rotations there, and I am currently stationed at BAMC. The service I work for own the rehab portion of the facility.
Keep doing an outstanding job. I'm at a loss with what to say, I've only ever walked through there and wished for the opportunity to serve in a capacity at BAMC. Between the center for the intrepid and the burn clinic, that campus stands as a monument to the resiliency of the human mind body and soul.
I got really goosebumped and a little choked up at points. Especially when we learned from the firing range instructors about rehabilitation of marksmanship skills and the idea of not just restoring someone from a disabled state but bringing them back to total war fighting capabilities. I mean the tenacity to relearn to walk with prosthesis from a double amp is one thing, but to stride back and fight alongside your battle buddies again. I'm proud that we have people like you who are part of that unimaginable process. Gods don't perform miracles, groups of committed professionals like the people at BAMC do.
Hyperc3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamn Bastions always stealing my POTGs.
Dsplee ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would bet my paycheck he did not keep it. I work in mining and we routinely go over the dangers of petroleum products getting inside the skin. If you get a couple of ounces inside your hand chances are there is permanent damage or partial amputation minimum. That's if you get to the hospital immediately. There's just not a good way to get it out without causing damage.
Oof. I'd like to know what ended up happening to that guy, but I can't imagine it was good. Seems unlikely that he kept the hand, and if it was infected than leaving it untreated could have killed him.
SamediB ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely rhetorical, but if when you touch it is sprays liquid, how do you dress it (without making it worse/completely draining it).
I almost have my eyes shut at this point; please don't answer! >_<
Finie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:49:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You drain it, at least in part. Then you wrap it up and ship them out, I believe (from the non-deployed, only have worked in the hospital thus far perspective).
Not a doctor, but I'd presume someone told him to disinfect the wound with alcohol, and since it's Afghanistan and alcohol is prohibited, he'd found the next best thing and used diesel.
They're both flammable, right?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:12:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaand that's like the only thing I can think of that the two substances have in common as well. Honestly, the only reaction to this post is first of all WTF WHY DID HE DRENCH HIS HAND IN DIESEL?! And second of all, poor education kills.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:34:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think so. Diesel is organic, toxic and harbours bacteria. Maybe you were thinking of petrol, I think petrol has some disinfectant properties but is still not nearly safe or effective enough to be used on any part of the body, let alone open wounds. And yeah, rarely should you ever soak any living part of your body in anything for three days...I can't imagine what the man was thinking, and why he didn't remove his hand from the diesel even though it should've been obvious within a few hours that it wasn't helping!
Yeah, intelligence was the wrong word to use. My bad.
leyebrow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:53:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Odds are with lack of pre-natal care, proper nutrition, and education, they're probably not as intelligent as the average first worlder. We can be PC, but also accept reality.
yanroy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:48:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate this argument. It doesn't matter what potential you have, you will not be very intelligent without an education. Education unlocks the potential intelligence to a huge extent. But IMHO education can't do much for someone without potential intelligence, they'll always be stupid no matter what.
Then rephrase it to "they're potentially just as intelligent" if you want, and process that. Saying someone is simply unintelligent obscures the line between biologically derived unintelligence and unintelligence through neglect or lack of opportunity. It then becomes very easy to say "all them fellows yonder are unintelligent. There's no point in allocating resources to educating them because they're a lost cause anyway." This is just one of the reasons why this distinction is important.
yanroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't reach them in childhood, a great many are a lost cause. It's nearly impossible to teach an adult who doesn't see the need to learn.
Avalire ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:11:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't a conference on education spending in Afghanistan, it's a reddit thread.
Yep, it's a reddit thread. Precisely the place for conversation.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As anyone else? You mean the normal massive bell curve of IQs? Yes, but actually no, because the brightest self-select to better environments, just like in neighboring Pakistan, India, etc.
It self-selects the rural areas to have necessarily lower IQs on average. It's just statistics.
LvLupXD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IQ is was designed as an aptitude test for testing how well a child would do in school, and you can do better on an IQ test if you practice. It naturally follows that places with better education will result in people scoring better on IQ tests, as the skills that IQ tests examine are trained in the classroom. Using IQ tests as some blanket statement on intelligence is foolish.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fine, I will state it in the terms you prefer. Highly productive people gravitate towards areas they can be highly productive... a tautology basically. This necessarily means that areas of low productivity steadily lose their top producers.
If you want to state that there is no link between intelligence and productivity by all means...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:14:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a hard time believing this. An intelligent person would seek out someone more knowledgeable then themselves before acting.
Perhaps that person assumed to be more knowledgeable told the man to stick his hand in petrol based on misinformed yet internally logical belief.
vc-10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly! I'm just amazed that someone came up with that idea...
Big_TX ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:40:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I bet his train of thought was: alcohol kills germs. it's a smelly chemical that burns. diesel is a smelly chemical that burns. probably kills germs.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can't imagine why he thought it was a good idea. Even if he genuinely thought it was going to help, he probably should have realised before three days had passed that the diesel wasn't making things better...
Atario ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gas and Diesel are different. Petrol (or gas for americans) can work as a sterilizing agent but it's still very bad to use, like so bad that it's last resort territory.
I saw a guy in Iraq with some kind of hernia where fluid was for lack of a better explanation, was pooling in his scrotum. It had gone on quite some time, and he looked like he was smuggling a pair of large sweet potatoes in a sack. It showed through his dishdasha (loose arab garment) and swung pendulously back and forth as he walked, not quite down to his knees. Fuck, my balls hurt just seeing it in my memory.
You'd think putting your badly cut hand in Diesel would be a bad idea in the first place. But there I was. Draining a mans hand of fucking Diesel whilst he sobbed quietly.
that happened to my dad because he had some sort of weird reaction to lube oil that got into a cut on his hand when a bolt flew out of some machinery and nailed him. he went to the doctor right away, but within hours he'd swelled up and it had gone all sorts of sideways on him. he had a pretty severe infection that they battled for a couple weeks. i think in the end the medical team at the hospital basically created a custom antibiotic cocktail just for him.
but his hand basically went just like that, and after exposure to petrolieum product.
the guy i work with insists that dipping a cut into anything oil based with keep it from hurting while it heals. he does at least not keep it dipped for three days.
He probably thought that because diesel is stinky and it stings when it gets in a wound, that it acts as an antiseptic.
My grandfather's brother (my great-uncle), who lived in the Midwest all his life, used to put turpentine in the cuts he got from working at the hardware store he ran with my grandfather. Great-Uncle figured that the turpentine was doing something because it stung. He also lived to be 91 and died of brain cancer.
Pyro9966 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds about right. I had a woman bring their kid to us while out on patrol because "her head hurt."
Our medic looked at the kid's head to find FUCKING MAGGOTS. The kid had a minor scrape or cut and it got infected. There were maggots crawling around INSIDE A GODDAMN HEAD WOUND.
The ANA insisted on doing a clearance op on their own. We told them it was a bad idea but stood by to crash out if the call came. 150 went out and over the ensuing hours they took 27 casualties. One of which was the Commanders son. They rushed him into our PB and insisted we treat him first, the other wounded soldiers didn't matter apparently. The Commander was getting very angry at us and suddenly we had 8 ANA soldiers pointing AKs at us. We went over to the wounded son and found him fucking dead. He'd been hit in the mouth by a riubd which bounced up and came out the top of his head. None of this seemed to matter and they told us to do CPR. So we half assed a bit of CPR and put him on the next helicopter out. Thing is, you could hear the air whistle out of his head wound and they still thought we could save him...
I have a fear of fuel getting in open wounds so this triggered me
rouge87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of using kerosene as a coagulant and I imagine diesel would work the same. Though why he would have kept it submerged for three days beats me.
poopf4rt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean before anyone tells me I'm disgusting, did anyone record that?
Fun fact, apparently it's good for minor burns! I have never tried it, because that just sounds God awful, but I've heard from many people that gasoline and/or diesel is good for burns.
Do you know if there is some notion of diesel/gas being some sort of disinfectant in that region? I can't imagine why he would think that would be the thing that would save his hand.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's no way he had an infection. But he definitely lost the hand.
daitoshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't see me but I inhaled sharply through the noise, followed by a low, distressed moan like a very unhappy dog
I smashed my thumb like a banana when a tombstone fell on me (work related) never lost the nail but there was bone sticking out and it was peeled half back, some hispanic dude told me to do this to keep the nail from falling off. I opted against the advice, but interesting to hear something like this pop up again
kristenp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roach Crystals?
Goof245 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oils, including diesel, destroy flesh if they get under the skin. It's why you never, ever run your hand along a hydraulic hose to feel for leaks. If a pinhole leak exists and oil comes out it'll pierce the skin and run along the flesh in your arm and slowly break it down. Doctors can only open your arm up and manually sponge the oil out to limit the damage. :(
This reminds me of the girl who survived a plane crash in the Amazon or something. Then made her way down the river, but had to disinfect her wound with what I thought was gasoline. It was on the front page a while back. I'm sure I have it wrong, but it was fascinating. Note to self: diesel is not an antiseptic.
Kind of similar to this, my father grew up in Mexico and was working in the sugar cane fields one day. During his work, he accidentally cut his hand with the machete he was using to cut down canes. Not knowing what to do since he was around 3-4th grade he doused his hand in gasoline. He's lucky it didn't get infected since there weren't any doctors around his village, he would have had to lose his hand I'm guessing. but in the end it worked, he learned a lesson.
My grandfather was a farmer in rural northern Montana... he was quite the badass, he sewed his own cuts with needle and thread instead of getting actual stitches, he brushed his teeth with comet powder... anyway, when he got a particularly bad cut once he dipped his hand into diesel to sterilize it. Didn't leave it in there for three days though and everything seemed to work out ok...
Pbpro13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As outrageous as this sounds, i swear im not even joking. I was in TQ, iraq last summer and we had some iraqis bring us a cooler to our ecp in an ambulance. Inside was a gory, post ied soup, formerly know as one of their soldiers. They asked if we could put him back together....
I think most people consider it worse than Alien blue because while scrolling through threads, each one takes up a massive amount of screen space. You can only see the previews of 2-3 threads at a time instead of ~8 like with Alien Blue.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Additionally, the official reddit app is slow and stupid.
JasTHook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid because it does not remember your place if the system close it down to save memory
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's what I don't like about it. I just switched from android to IPhone and I REALLY miss Relay... it's not bad though just different than I'm used to.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the off-chance you still have the same iPhone it was previously installed on you can go to the App Store > Updates > Purchased > Not on the iPhone. You should be able to reinstall it from that list.
Adding to this as long as it's still registered to your apple store account (ie you did not delete it from your ACCOUNT which you have to do via itunes because Apple hates all of us) you can most likely still download it because it's saved in your account info. Same if you have a backup save of a device with it on itunes or icloud.
I switched ipads a month ago, transferred the icloud backup of my old ipad to my new one and didn't have a single issue.
reddit mobile app. It's the one I use on my phone. It crashes all the time but I don't know what ones out there are better and frankly I'm rather lazy.
The reddit official app is an okay alternative. It's not better by a long shot, but it's serviceable. My biggest complaint about it at the moment is that it collapses a thread if you tap anywhere inside a comment that isn't a link. So if I'm trying to tap a link and I miss, the whole thread collapses. It's mildly infuriating.
Oh hell no that sounds horrible. I don't follow links very far in alien blue to save on data usage, and therefore only use it for subs like /r/askreddit so that's a big nono for me and my big stupid hands
Just making sure. It is indeed incredibly annoying.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh agree. And it's stupidly hard to land your finger on the links some days so I'm swearing at the phone as the posts keep collapsing all for like a Rick roll or something.
Utecitec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It still works fine if you never want uninstalled it, and I think you can still download it if it's in your library. It's just not supported any more, so it'll stop working eventually.
Quastors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Reddit bought it and replaced it with the official app. It's not in the App Store anymore. I was AWOL from Reddit for a couple years though, so I'm not sure what exactly went down.
Well shit, shows what I know (nothing). Here I am using "reddit is fun" and loving it. Sort of seems too bad that iOS users can't download legacy apps they want without voiding their warranties, but that's neither here nor there.
I'm just glad people are using the word "scro." Idiocracy is an awesome movie. And on the plus side, that's soon to become our actual reality in the US.
I'm unsure which one would be the most disturbing to have sex with though, also for the second picture you should thank me because there are waaay more gross pictures out there
Sqin ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:00:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish all my patients had stomas looking like that. :(
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:30:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even want to know how it could be worse
Sqin ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:32:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its completely vain, il be honest. It made me special. I was 21 when i got it. And i travelled and did a lot of things and never let it stop me doing anything and it felt good. Now im nothing
Igotlost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:37:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't fully understand, was your medical condition what you defined yourself by? If someone were to have asked you to describe yourself, would you have just written "a person with a stoma."? Surely there are other qualities you see in yourself. What's stopping you from still defining yourself as a strong person for living with a stoma, even if you don't have it anymore?
Of course i defined myself by that, it was the only thing that had happened in my life. I should have died and it gave me something to prove. I struggle to convey my thoughts a lot of the time. But now i see myself as nothing but a scarred wreck of a person who will never be remembered. It all seems rather pointless, and frankly im ok with that
Don't let that opinion of yourself stop you from doing any of the things you did and enjoyed before, that would be worse than letting a medical condition stop you.
say592 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:53:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neck. You could probably kill someone that way, which changes the dynamic significantly. Stomach is like anal, just messier.
Drazen44 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:41:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Portland chimney sweep or a Philly sidecar. The choice is yours.
It's a fake pooper a doctor cut into someone's tum-tum
heiferly ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 05:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily, it can be any new connection between your insides and outsides. Tracheostomy, colostomy, gastrostomy (through which is placed a "G tube" for tube feeding into the stomach), jejunostomy (for a "J tube" for post-pyloric tube feeding), urostomy (e.g., for placement of a supra-pubic catheter), and many others. I have two of those above, and there is NO WAY I would ever use them for sexual purposes. They're not stretchy, they're delicate and form painful/bloody granulation tissue from even minor irritation at the site, and acid/bile from my digestive tract tends to leak out of them little by little, which can be extremely caustic to skin that it comes in contact with.
I skipped a line and read: "I have two of them for sexual purposes". If you had not capitalized the not, which made me re-read, I would have uninstalled reddit. Thanks.
heiferly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, yeah. That's fucking creepy. High five to all the other line-skipping readers out there, I do it all the time!
Nyrb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep...
Nyrb ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Any of the minute pores in the epidermis of the leaf or stem of a plant, forming a slit of variable width that allows movement of gases in and out of the intercellular spaces."
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dog-boy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:10:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm thinking Sam means the other kind of stoma. "an artificial opening made into a hollow organ, especially one on the surface of the body leading to the gut or trachea." So the opening to a colostomy or urostomy.
Stoma = "mouth" in Greek. Humans are deuterostomes, meaning "second mouth." AKA when we are a teeny tiny conglomerate of cells, we make our b-holes first and mouths second! Fun fact of the day.
But WHY? There are a lot of places in the human body that are sensitive enough for certain activities to be worthwhile, but surely that would just be incredibly painful?
Friends work at 911. They had a regular caller who was a hooker. I guess desperate times and a one-time strange offer led her to discovering a... niche market. She was getting her stoma fucked for money is what Im saying here. It eventually got infected. She died.
macphile ยท 893 points ยท Posted at 22:27:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The how I get, but does it happen often? I've never heard of anyone having oral chlamydia, say. Maybe I don't hang around the right/wrong circles. (Of course, there's oral herpes, but that's a different kettle of...herpes. And I know from being on the internet that you can get STDs of the stoma from a colostomy.)
Holy gawd I had never read this before. I was very nearly revisited by the burrito I consumed only a moment ago.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever read this one? There's quite a few legendary reddit threads, but when I first came to this site, this is the one that fucked me up enough that I keep coming back here to this day, just hoping to get that level of WTF again. Kind of like any hard drug.
Most STDs are basically a cold for your junk. People's weirdness abt sexual topics is all that makes STDs especially taboo or disgusting.
Remove the stigma, folks can be educated more easily & will be more willing to get checked & treated when they aren't burdened by the shame of being 'tainted' or 'dirty'.
Assuming the dude was straight, I don't think condoms would have helped him at all in that situation. Condoms are hard to wear on our tongue when going down on a girl.
Haha! Those actually exist :) But it's not what I was referring to. I was replying in that sideways conversation context about std's being tabboo, if that makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this case open means he would openly talk about it and make jokes. Not open in the sense of knowing prior to sex and properly disclosing to partners. I don't know about his disclosure to partners and treatment.
Not everyone. And STIs are more preventable than the flu by a huge margin. The fact that he kept getting it doesn't speak well of his ability to practice safe sex. STIs are a big deal because of the increasing antibiotic resistance (especially in gonorrhea and chlamydia), and that if untreated they can cause permanent damage. And unlike the flu, your body doesn't fight them off naturally.
[deleted] ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 00:26:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chlamydia and gonorrhea can both happen orally, but the transmission rates or lower than for other "traditional" types of sex. Oral gonorrhea is more common than oral chlamydia. Not a lot of places do an oral swab, and it's not as serious as genital chlamydia and gonorrhea so that's probably why you don't hear about it as often. You can get chlamydia and gonorrhea in your eyes, too.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:24:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the frequency rate of genital STDs compared to oral STDs?
I'd almost expect oral STDs to be more frequent, because I'd imagine that it never even occurs to a lot of people that they should use protection during oral.
Genital rates are much higher than oral. Risk of transmission for oral STDs (really just chlamydia and gonorrhea) is much lower. Oral-vaginal sex is the lowest risk because the bacteria live in the back of the throat, oral-penile is slightly higher risk, but still much lower risk than vaginal or anal sex. Guidelines basically only recommend oral screening for people who are symptomatic or members of high risk populations (e.g. MSM) who have oral sex.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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heiferly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Child abuse?
TC01017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
STDs on your eyes.
That sounds painful.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:37:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trachoma, infection of the eye by Chlamydia trachomatis, remains a major cause of blindness in some parts of the world. The WHO has labeled it a neglected tropical disease.
Big_TX ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 23:31:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of them is most commonly spread that way.
But yah oral sex is unsafe sex.
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[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:46:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Elfer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wyvernz ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 23:43:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The how I get, but does it happen often? I've never heard of anyone having oral chlamydia, say. Maybe I don't hang around the right/wrong circles. (Of course, there's oral herpes, but that's a different kettle of...herpes. And I know from being on the internet that you can get STDs of the stoma from a colostomy.)
HPV can cause throat cancer, for example. Also, you can get HSV-2 on your mouth and HSV-1 on your genitals, though it's less common than the usual locations.
Actually HSV-1 is pretty easy to get genitally if you don't already have oral HSV1. They think the occurance rate could be way more than reported since it's usually a lot more mild if it shows up genitally (usually...it can be just as bad as hsv2 though, esp the first outbreak). Unless they're showing obvious lesions, people confuse it for benign skin irritation, and then the only way it gets tested for is blood tests. But blood tests can only tell you that you have HSV1 antibodies in your system ... Not where it shows up. And since pretty much everyone has HSV1 in their blood, that's not very helpful.
But it's really easy to get oral herpes from someone with genital HSV1. That being said, luckily since pretty much everyone already has HSV in their system its harder to get in other locations.
Gonorrhea can infect the throat. It's bacterial, and I've read that it's somewhat common for other bacterial STI's like chlamydia and syphilis to be present, and that people are often treated for getting rid of all 3, if 1 is found. Dunno how true that last statement is, it's anecdotal. Also, it's unwise to trust someone who can accurately type out gonorrhea without having to look it up.
I had a patient in my adolescent med clinic who had a sore throat. I asked him what it felt like, and he said "Like the last time I had gonorrhea." Needless to say, he was correct.
You should do it even more frequently than that! Every time you have a new sexual partner, if you forgo condoms PLEASE test. Us porn performers test every two weeks and stuff STILL slips through the cracks. Fun fact: cutting edge testing, which uses locations all over the US will do a full STD panel with results the next day for $165 and it takes like ten minutes. You'll have to fill out a questionnaire asking if you have an "agent" or if you want to be a member of the PASS system, which are porn performer-related questions but just leave them blank.
You probably don't need to spend $165, check for free clinics in your area first.
daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for a result the next day and a full panel. My local health clinic will test for things using a swab, but HIV, herpes, and hpv need a blood draw and you have to ask for it and pay extra.
cornicat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look, I don't know that much about this but wouldn't it be easier (and a fuckload safer) just to wear condoms and then get tested every 3-6 months instead of every time you have a new partner? Plus $165??? That's pretty insane, especially if you're testing yourself 3-10 times a year (using OP's numbers and your logic).
No arguments there, condoms are the way to go! But we should be realistic and acknowledge that when we sample the wider populace that they are often lazy about condom use. I only mention the option above because when I was uninsured and had to go get an std panel (at my university clinic no less!) the lab bills that came back to me were well over $500. Cheers!
daymcn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention that condoms don't protect 100% for pregnancy or std s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol asshole, it's been mandatory every two weeks since the last HIV outbreak in California in 2013. Damn near all reputable companies won't even bend the rules for you on an expired test. I lost out on a girl/girl shoot (way less risky) because my test was fifteen days old last month. And clearly you didn't read my post history carefully enough because I've posted proof of who I am on here before but since you're being a smug upstart here's further proof: https://twitter.com/lenaisapeach/status/818745164256526336
daymcn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:43:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can any woman be unaware of BV? Or another woman even think to go down there? It was the most awful thing I have experienced, literally felt like I had a stink cloud surround me and everyone knew. Thank God it's easily treatable
My ex got oral Chlamydia while cheating on me. Good times.
vreddy92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive seen oral HPV. Not pretty.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see oral gonorrhea far more often then oral chlamydia. In my lab, I'd estimate probably 1-2 oral gonorrhea cases/week. Maybe only 1-2 oral chlamydia cases per month.
We see a lot of "oral" herpes on genitalia, but not so much "genital" herpes in the mouth.
asek13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I worked at Petco someone dropped off a bird he didn't want anymore that had chlamydia in its eye
JayRekka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Former Navy. Worked with a guy who went down on a Thai hooker.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can absolulty get genetal herpes on your face, and oral herpes on your genetals. It's HSV1 and HSV2. We have labeled them oral and genetal do to where they most often infect. But they can easily infect either area. Fun fact, 68% of Americans are infected with HSV1, and 25% with HSV2. Guess what... you know somone with herpes. Because half of America has it.
Only 20% of people manifest symptoms in the form of cold sores on the face or genetals. So more likely then not if you are infected, you don't know it. And you think you know it because you get tested for STDs? Wrongo. They only swab your genetal sore and test that for herpes confirmation IF you have a sore. But if you are a symptomless carrier they never test for that. You have to specifically request and insist they do the HSV1/HSV2 antibody test. It's expensive, and not in the normal STD panel. But is a sure way of knowing (with a 2 month lag-time in accuracy, i.e. If we're infected more then 2 months ago your titer should be high enough to pick up in the test).
You know why they normally don't test for Herpes? Because it's largely a social stigma and isn't actually a serious STD. Have fun at the doctor next time. :0
1jl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I though thought you just had Chlamydia. Like it was in your entire body.
Bacterial infections (like chlamydia, gonorrhea, or strep) often start out as localized infections. If left untreated, the infection can go 'systemic,' in which case it is in your blood stream and can have more serious effects.
sjb285 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes you can get stds eventually all over your body if untreated.
terynce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there's oral herpes, but that's a different kettle of...herpes.
Keep in mind you can transfer oral to genital herpes and vice versa.
So, the hospital I'm an ER medic in recently switched our STD sample taking to kits that test it from the urine.
If you didn't know, the test used to be a urethral swab. Management made the switch due to an... incident, to put it lightly.
So, this lady, a tech (90% the same job, an EMT or CNA instead of a paramedic), was taking a sample from this guy. She's having him hold his own Johnson while she sticks the swab in there, because you try and get through your shift touching as few dicks as possible. I guess you can say that for almost any job, really.
Anyways, she's pulling the swab out and I don't know if she hits a sore spot or what. But something happens, the guys adjusts, and it puts tension on the swab. Shes still pulling it out, because this happens quickly, but with the sudden tension in it, now it flings dick pus at her, and she gets it in her eye. Occupational health is now paying to treat her ocular chlamydia and herpes, or so the story goes. How she didn't just steal some narcs and kill herself in the bathroom after that I have no idea.
But that's the reason I was told as to why we take the samples from the urine now.
You can get gonorrhoea of the mouth and eye, oral thrush, even hpv can affect that area. Plus oral herpes and genital herpes being two distinct strains is not exactly correct anymore. Either hsv1 or hsv2 can cause herpes sores pretty much anywhere on your body. As peoples sexual behaviour has changed in the last little while its more common to be exposed to the "oral" strain (hsv1) in the genital area and thus get genital herpes caused by the oral strain and vice versa. You get the sores where you were exposed to them therefore you can get herpes anywhere on your body pretty much. Genitals and mouths are common areas because the tissue there is thin and more likely to allow to virus in.
You know the HPV that they vaccinate girls against so they don't get cervical cancer? In Canada, they want to vaccinate the boys too because there's an increase in HPV related throat cancer in Canadian men. So... often enough that it's a public health issue.
I'm doing research on oral HPV and one of the highest risk factors is oral sex. Oral hpv is also one of the leading causes of oropharyngeal cancer now.
What you are refrencing is Hepres Gingivostomaitis. It is essentially an oral herpes infection of inner oral cavity including gums, lips, and cheecks. Very painful in most cases. The part about a stomach colostomy stoma is different, stoma is a multi function word in medicine.
HSV-1 causes "cold sores" on the mouth, and up to 80% of the population has this virus. However, HSV-1 may also be transmitted to the genitals through oral/genital sex and about 40% of genital herpes is caused by HSV-1. Up to 22% of sexually active adults have genital herpes caused by HSV-2.
It's not all bad though. You can still fuck. There's an app for that. It's called Tinder.
A friend of mine got chlamydia in her mouth, the side effects were horreeendous bronchitis, she said it felt like a fucking wooden spike was lodged in her throat. It was cleared and cured by anti-biotics.
Idk how often it happens, but I do know of a guy (from medical literature) who got syphilis in his throat/mouth after going down on a girl, he had continuous medical complications over the years. So yeah, not something to treat that lightly.
I have this co-worker whose wife cheated on him with a cam girl. He found out cause she got clamydia in her mouth. She has the mouth clap. It's in her mouth! We laugh and laugh at him.
In case no one has told you yet you can get oral herpes in your genitals and genital herpes in your mouth,". The viruses are just specialized for their particular neurons and don't spread to the new areas as easily, but still can.
Oral STD's happen a lot (given the right exposure!), but mostly don't cause any symptoms so you'll hear less about them. We see a lot of oral gonhorrea in particular, but mostly have to test people routinely to find it - people mostly won't know otherwise.
The last time I got a routine STD test, part of it was throat swabs, so I asked my doctor what the symptoms would be for oral STDs. He said a lot of the time, most oral STDs aren't even going to have any symptoms and if they do, they're usually relatively minor, resembling something like a mild case of strep throat. So if someone contracts one of the bacterial STDs orally and they don't get tested regularly, it will either lay dormant until it gets wiped out the next time the person is prescribed antibiotics, or it will have sore throat symptoms which will probably end up being treated by antibiotics anyway.
I know it's late, but you technically can get oral clamydia. There's no FDA approved test for it though, so you really can't know 100% but if you go down on a girl/guy who has chlamydia, then you can contract oral chlamydia
Almost got oral chlamydia from a girl who I thought didn't have an STI because I went to go down on her and then her dogs ran into the room and it was a bit too awkward.
On Okinawa, there is a strip club outside of one of the military bases that used to be famous for the banana show. Generations of US military witnessed the majesty of the banana show. A stripper, the same stripper for something like 30-40 years, would birth a banana and cut slices off as it came out of her. These fell into the waiting mouth of whomever was too new to understand the consequences of sexual contact with a stripper on an island full of military.
Oral chlamydia and oral gonorrhea were frequent staples of Monday sick call for decades.
it was on an ask reddit thread a while back but some kid had his wisdom teeth taken out then munched questionable box, he got chlamydia or syphilis I forget which in the empty tooth holes. his parents thought it was dry socket. nope. STDS.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oral herpes and genital herpes is the same kind of herpes.
stackered ยท 1695 points ยท Posted at 22:15:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A doctor friend of mine did pretty much the same thing during his residency. Asked how a patient got some STI or another in the throat. Laughter was had and he figured it out in a matter of seconds. The guy is very smart, just very... traditional. That situation had never occurred to him as possible before that moment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oral herpes and pharyngeal gonorrhea are really common.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:25:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A baby born to a mother with an STD can get it all over.
JustVern ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:41:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something I can talk about!
I'm a retired jailer. Some years ago, while working in a women's dormitory styled jail, I discovered one of the inmates face deep in a new girl's crotch.
Three days after splitting the giver and receiver up, nearly half of the dorm began complaining about vaginal problems.
Then the 'giver' started complaining that she may have Strep throat.
Turns out the new girl had a case of gonorrhea, the 'eater' contracted it then spread it around via pleasuring nearly half of the lonely girls in the dorm for a small fee of commissary items (i.e. pastries, chips, candy, etc.)
There was much medication being slung around that unit for the next several days.
Last semester I was studying for finals next to a group of nursing major who were engaged in a lively debate about whether any STD could be transmitted sexually. After ten minutes of back and forth they decided they would ask their professor during the review session.
Lington ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A nursing student? Shouldn't they have some prior knowledge of things in general related to health?
In a college biology class, the teacher was describing what semen was made of, and a girl asked if it was true that eating semen is good for you.
What I found most funny about this was not that she asked it, but the notion that some guy had probably told her that and the implications of her believing it.
baialsk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a nursing student? wtf lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you answered her in great detail with hand puppets and other visual aids.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair there's a reason UTIs are more common among women and that's because female anatomy makes that very issue more likely to happen. (Of course for women and their anatomy PinV sex is another big cause). So I mean not the stupidest question though I assume you got some snickers.
Zamharos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember correctly she said for girls it could be if they wipe back to front or something and for guys if you're a baby and you poop you're diaper as a baby it could happen.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.... You can get STD's in your mouth? How do you avoid that?
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abstinence. Kidding, though that's the only 100% way. Using condoms and dental dams during oral sex. As well as being tested and making sure your partner was as well.
Biology class in high school I think junior sophomore year. We are talking about parts of the brain. Kid raises his hand and says but I thought the scrutiny was a part of your brain and it did that. Every starts dying of laughter and then says you can't get mad if someone calls you a dickhead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the family residents was talking to us a pleasant old man who had herpes on his forehead, but she couldn't possibly imagine how it had gotten there. Needless to say, there was much laughter in the background.
A nursing student was really upset once in the bio study hall because she heard that heavy exercise caused a lactic acid build up. "I've got to tell my sister to stop running! She's lactose intolerant and could get really sick!"
Heard about a high school biology class where they looked at their own cheek swabs. One girl saw a moving cell and called over her teacher to check it out, and before he could think it through, the nerd yelled "Wow, that's a sperm cell!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"well suszy, when a mommy and daddy love each other, they have sex. Then, daddy asks mommy if she 'especially loves him' and she proceeds to 'show her affections'...
"...Little does mommy know, daddy's been screwing the ass off their hot neighbor, a smokin little blonde from philly with a mouth full of gohnaherpasyphilitus (literally). Daddy also doesn't know of his second partners "bumplius uglius" and is asymptomatic..."
"...3 weeks later, both of them come to us complaining of their symptoms: we diagnose them, a marriage is ruined and life goes on."
-spam- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked at a communicable diseases lab, we got a lot of eye swabs for ghono.
This reminds me of a story my mother told me back in the day. She went to a Christian college (where in the 1980's you could get kicked out for getting pregnant) and her nursing teachers taught the class about pregnancy tests by having the students take them. Two girls in her class got positive ones.
splein23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry not totally medical but I once had an entire class of EMT students laugh at me when I asked if ambulance vehicles had automatic chains. We were talking about responding to calls in bad weather. It was so awesome when the teacher told the class that they existed they all looked like assholes for laughing at me. He didn't say the asshole part but the way he responded was pretty awesome still. Sorry, that's like my one story where I look cool at the end and not like an idiot.
ATLEMT ยท 334 points ยท Posted at 02:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a paramedic. I delivered a baby in the back of the ambulance and placed it on the mothers chest. I asked her what it's name was (can't remember if the was a boy or girl) and she looked at me and said "I thought you named it"
I really should have ran with it but I was too surprised that she actually thought that.
Either she was a single mother, or she's had at least one discussion with the baby's father where they both agreed that they're pretty sure baby names come from the doctor. And did no one ever ask her what she was going to name it? "Oh, I don't know, whatever the doctor names it of course." "Yeah that makes sense. Hope you get a good one!"
Could be they were asked "what's it's name" which would get a "we dunno yet"
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who was an EMT, he said one of the things that was most annoying to him was that poor Hispanic immigrants would wait until labor was well under way, then call an ambulance to deliver the baby. Whenever he delivered a baby, the parents would often ask what his name was, they would always name the baby after him. He started saying his name was "Placenta" and he has children named after him.
I saw a patient for a follow up after three ER visits in as many days for asthma. He was from another country, so this was the first time I ever met him. His lungs sound absolutely terrible, but he swears he is taking the inhaler every 2-4 hours with no relief. This raises suspicion to me, as the same meds are working in the ER. I ask him to show me how he is using it. He holds it about a foot away from his mouth and does two puffs like Binaca and swallows. I felt really bad, he had never received any education about his illness or medications.
My great grandmother used to do this. She was stubborn and wouldn't take any advice. So instead my family asked me to use mine when I was with her so she could see the proper way. I don't remember if she ever caught on.
Btw, my grandma used to say there were two ways of smoking:
The one where you only inhale to your mouth
And the one that you inhale into your lungs.
She would only inhale into her mouth. She smoked unfiltered cigarettes and lived to 85, outliving grandpa by 10 years.
I don't know if maybe your grandma had a similar view of inhalation as mine did.
Also, standing by for the jokes about my grandma.
Edit:
Apologies for grammar. In the rush of response euphoria, I butchered my native language.
Thank you OP and parent OP for allowing us to derail this thread into smoking.
*My highest comment thread is about my gramma's smoking style. Has to be Reddit. It does seem that it could make it's own post: Reddit, which style of smoking....
I have only occasionally smoked, but not daily or even weekly. I have only tried inhaling into the mouth. I've read somewhere that you get some effects and it's still bad for your teeth.
Btw, cuban cigars was why I would smoke.
Adamsoski ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 01:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just so you know you smoke cigarettes and cigars differently - cigars you inhale only into your mouth. Gives you mouth cancer instead of lung cancer :)
I worked with a guy that dipped. He always had a can in his car for this. [you know what's coming, but you're gonna keep reading anyway cuz it's our nature}. On hot day while she was waiting for him to get out of work, she took a sip. Yes, a sip of his dip juice from lord knows how long. They broke-up shortly after.
Really? I smoked for years and smoked several cigars over the period and always pulled the smoke into lungs. Never knew you weren't supposed to do that.
Boukish ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:06:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd wager you were smoking cigarillos, not cigars. Trying to inhale an entire cigar is just asking for a headache.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:41:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who buys cigarillos without intending to cut it open and remove all the tobacco needs to reevaluate their life
Actual nice ciggarillos exist, they aren't all Swishers and White Owls. The concept of a cigar being thin doesn't automatically mean it has throwaway filler and is only for pot.
totally; "cigarillo" to most doesn't mean "a (possibly exquisite) small cigar", but rather exclusively "a cheap blunt wrap in a foil baggy"
Raknith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wanted to magically see a number of how many cigarillos sold are actually used for blunts vs how many are smoked. And similarly I've wondered what the cigarillo companies think of this.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say it's over 50%
Raknith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit probably well over 50. I've seen someone smoking a cigarillo like one time in my life.
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have literally never heard of this but every store that feels cigarettes/cigarillos also sells zigzags so everyone just buys that (or carries a pipe).
Ryaman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a headache for most people. More common is nausea and vomiting.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people inhale it, it's just way harsher so people who's lungs aren't used to it have a coughing fit and puke from that plus the nicotine rush
I mean yeah you're supposed to only inhale into your mouth with cigars. However I never smoke them that way on the extremely rare occasion I buy one. I don't really get much effect if I only inhale into the mouth.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 02:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theres actually no solid proof of any cancer resulting from proper cigars(proper hand rolled cigars from cured and aged tobacco)
The interesting thing is there is multiple documented health benefits from moderate cigar smoking.
Yeah, I'm gonna call bullshit on that one. Do you have a source? I'm sure that a hand rolled cigar with tobacco that hasn't been treated with chemicals like the kind in cigarettes is less likely to cause cancer, but it definitely still increases your chance of getting it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google it, youll find conflicting information, but my point is valid, there hasnt been solid proof linking cigars to it. Theres a few reasons, one is that almost all tobacco studies have been done with cigarettes. Im not saying cigars are 100% harmless, just that there is no solid proof and that they are much better than cigarettes
Part of the reason why they are so much better is the aging and curing process of the tobacco(which can be as long as 50 years, i think the minimum is around 10) gets rid of a lot of the harmful things.
But yeah almost everything about cigars just lumps them in with cigarettes and basically says they are just bigger worse cigarettes, which just isnt true.
If all you ever did was inhale into the mouth you would get the effects, but your tolerance for nicotine and other chemicals goes way up very quickly and you start having to lung inhale just to feel anything. Eventually that stops doing anything too.
Apparently there's a gene in some people that causes nicotine to not give them a buzz at all which is interesting
Never smoked a cigar and I've been off smoking for a year or so now so I may never get to try :( from what I've read you aren't meant to lung inhale cigars anyways but someone else may be able to speak to that better than me
Kheyman ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:32:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only ever feel anything if I've stopped for months. Otherwise, I'm not smoking to feel good, but smoking to not feel bad. There's this hunger you need to sate.
I didn't smoke for very long. Started at 16/17 and I'd smoke two or three cigarettes a day till I was 18, started getting anxious from the nicotine and slowed down until I just didn't do it anymore (19 now). I always got the nicotine buzz though.
I can't handle any stimulants anymore so no caffeine, nicotine, Ritalin etc. Any drug that that effects the way I feel makes me anxious/gives me panic attacks so no alcohol or benzos either really. Stimulants are especially bad. It kinda blows, even though I'm way healthier I'd go back if I had the choice. Not really sure why I wrote this out but fuck it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like your brain is helping you not be addicted.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still just a pharmacy student so don't take my word as law or anything, but I've always been interested in anxiety disorders since my family has a pretty significant history with them. There are a wide range of drug classes that have been effectively used to treat anxiety. Anti-depressants, anti-convulsants, antihistamines, and even beta-blockers (normally used for heart conditions) could potentially help. If you're worried about changing your mental state I've heard that hydroxizine (antihistamine, normally used for itching) has been used as a reactionary therapy to treat symptoms whenever the patient can feel an attack coming on without trying to completely suppress whatever is causing the anxiety in the first place.
So if you feel like you're going to lose control, there are some options out there that won't cause stimulation and may not cause the mind-altering effects some common treatments have. Your doctor might have to do some digging, but there's stuff out there.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. I hope you get better then. It sounds like your brain is keeping you from getting addicted to life.
I'm sorry to hear that, processing these experiences, perhaps traumas, is something we just are not taught or prepared for. The things that are hardest to talk about are often the keys to recovery. You have invisible, open wounds that are in need of healing. These are the sources where anxiety flows out of.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never found quitting hard. I quit smoking(sober and daily) cold turkey from like 12 a day. Now I smoke when I'm hammered which is like maybe 3 times a month. That's weird that alcohol gives you anxiety.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking weed gave me anxiety, alcohol would cause panic attacks for quite a long time after but it went away eventually once I made myself get used to it. Any sort of stimulant would also give me a panic attack but yet again slowly exposing myself to it helped me deal with it. Maybe that could work for you?
Yeah, it was pretty fucking awful for me too at first. Don't worry too much, even though it sometimes feels like it's getting worse it does get better over time once you learn how you cope with it, but just remember that you will learn to cope with it and it does get better.
I've worked with people suffering from some addictions and they seem to all tell me the same : " the thoughts about it (drug of choice) never go away"
It's what has kept me from doing it often. It didn't give me a buzz, but since they were expensive cigars, I tried them a few times. I hope you keep staying strong about quitting.
_t00l_ ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:33:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the exact same with people who have food addictions. It's amazing to me that there is so much more understanding for people with drug addictions, but not so with food addictions (and they have to eat to live).
It does appear that food can be highly habit-forming if not addictive. It also seems that there are far more variables involved with food. I've seen studies where sleep style and the bacteria in your stomach contribute to overeating.
The movies make pipe smoking look fun and the smells from the tobacco used is enticing. I feel like I would buy a deer-stalker hat if I got into it, though wouldn't do it in public.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:33:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard people that can do this. I don't think I am one, so I try hard not to do addictive drugs. If I remember correctly, it has a great amount to do with genetics. You may have been blessed with your ability by your family. Look into your ancestor's history and see if there's any correlation.
I do know of at least one friend who never felt anything from smoking until one day he bummed a cigarette from me out of boredom and just about fell over (and now smokes on and off at parties).
Nicotine hits me really hard, I'd get borderline high whenever I would smoke
You're probably not giving it enough of a chance. If you can just power through those first few packs, addiction will kick in and you'll be amazed you ever went without them.
I love smoking. Never made it into a habit though, so I'll probably smoke a few cigarettes for like one week about once a year or so. I get guilty and anxious about the smoking though, so I never smoke more than a pack in any one year.
VoltGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think growing up in the 90s/00s when we were bombarded with anti-smoking PSAs helped out a lot. Smoking cigarettes is very enjoyable for me, but I get pretty paranoid about it. Then again, I don't have a very addictive personality anyway.
Yeah, cigars are mainly about the taste. I smoke cigars sometimes and I don't even care about any effects. Still, one does get the nicotine though, as a cigar usually has from 10 to 20 times the nicotine of a cigarette, luckily my tolerance is better now so I can enjoy a tasty cigar without getting dizzy (or like after my first cigar, a nicotine shock).
Anyways, you could still get addicted, and cigars can cause damage to one's mouth, throat, teeth, etc but at least you don't end up with tar in your lounges (I even smoke joints with my mouth for that reason). The reason cigars aren't known to be that damaging though, is because most cigar smokers smoke for pleasure and don't end up chain smoking like cigarette smokers do. In fact, cigarette smoking is even considered disgusting by lots of cigar smokers.
Poeple know the difference too... This one new smoker kept smoking like that and i could tell because the smoke was the same colors and his cheeks puffed up..
Cut him off when i brought up and he was likr im totally inhaling
TahnGee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't just smoke joint without lung inhaling, that's just a waste of weed. You need to inhale into your lungs if you wanna get high
Yeah hope he doesn't ask me for a session. Dry season down here, can't afford to bum-puff my dope bro!
I live in Spain. Weed is dirt cheap, I can go to a store, buy some seeds, and have 5 pickle jars of weed 6 months later. It might take me more joints but I do absorb THC through my mouth, and I get to enjoy the taste, unlike those poor bastards who smoke a joint like it's the last joint they'll ever smoke, keeping smoke in their lounges until there's almost nothing left.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:26:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's good that those people keep all of their smoking in their lounges. There's no need to smoke in every room of the house. It's nice to have it all confined to a single room so you can escape the smoke when you're done, and the lounge is probably the most appropriate room in the house for smoking.
TahnGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ty for that inb4
Jake_56 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a fucking amateur with that weed comment...
usaprc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as if being a weed master is something to be proud of??
Jake_56 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:49:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but saying you smoke weed by inhaling and holding in your mouth sounds like you trying to get drunk by pouring alcohol on your for arm hoping it will absorb into your skin I mean it could happen but you look like a fucking tool either way.
Jake_56 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also why not snoop Dogg, Willie nelson, trailer park boys, Doug Benson and tons more would disagree with you.
I can go to a store and buy some seeds and end up with a 1.5 meter tall marijuana plant, I can enjoy several joints a sitting, instead of rolling half a gram and get as high as possible on it just for the effect.
I smoke cigars periodically and just taste the smoke. But I don't do it often cos of the risk of mouth cancers. My brother used to smoke a pipe from time to time. Dunno if he still does.
That's correct, you don't inhale cigars to your lungs. Just draw the smoke to your mouth. It's about the flavor and relaxation. When I quit cigarettes in 2012 I never stopped smoking cigars. I'm a happier person for it.
OhiENT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a reason you inhale when you smoke weed. There's a reason you inhale when you smoke cigs.
There's a reason you do not inhale when you smoke cigars.
When smoking Marijuana or tobacco, you transport the chemical (in this case thc/nicotine) into your body by burning the product. To get the full effects of the drug, you inhale the smoke into your lungs. Your lungs absorb the chemical. Then the chemical is absorbed into the bloodstream and is transported to your brain via the cardiovascular system.
Along with the chemical of choice, your lungs are also absorbing different chemicals that are coming off what you're burning. Those chemicals can be harmful. You are also putting tar into your lungs when you inhale.
If you only bring the smoke into your mouth, it is scientifically less harmful. When you smoke cigars the tobacco is so strong you aren't supposed to inhale. You enjoy the taste and smell of it. If you would inhale, most people get very nauseated, vomit, or pass out. Cigars will put you on your ass if you inhale.
Small amounts of nicotine are absorbed through your gums and enter your bloodstream if you only "mouth it". I'm not sure about thc but I've definitley never gotten high by not inhaling it.
Anyways..mouthing smoke is nowhere near as bad as inhaling smoke.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I smoke I don't get a buzz unless I'm VERY drunk. Don't know if that's related.
Not a regular smoker, I don't think it's just tolerance.
I have extremely high tolerance to cannabis too, coincidentally.
I also am very resistant to addictive effects.
Guess I lucked out.
romjpn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have smoked very infrequently cigarettes while I was younger. Never got addicted for some reason.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
never thought of it as a gene thing, always thought the reason I never got nicotine rush was because of all the other stimulants Ive used (nothing illegal just lots of the legal stuff i was up to 2g of caffeine at one point to even feel a buzz )
As a former smoker (twenty years ago) I recently had a brilliant idea to buy some Nicorette gum since nicotine is supposely a stimulant and I wanted a break from coffee to keep me away on a road trip. Suspected I'd get something of a little buzz or rush or something.
I chewed one piece and it made me nothing but nauseated. No buzz. No rush or even calm or relaxation. Just nausea.
That is how you are supposed to smoke cigars - you do not inhale them. It is not that there are two ways to inhale, you either inhale or you don't. Inhaling means breathing into your lungs, smoking and not inhaling is just breathing into your mouth. Cigarettes and drugs you inhale - everything else is just into the mouth.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could someone explain to me why you would ever not inale into your lungs? I mean, what's the point? Do people just enjoy mouth/throat/gum/everything cancer and smelling like a bum?
You physically can't inhale cigar smoke due to the alkalinity of the smoke (cigarettes are acidic and aren't absorbed into mouth membranes) anyways unless you have some sort of extremely fucked up lungs or super lungs.
I'll buy you gold if you take a video of you smoking an entire cigar while inhaling to your lungs and blowing out your nose. I'll laugh when you cough until you puke.
That's not what you said at all, you said it was physically impossible to inhale cigar smoke, and it isn't. Of course you'll get fucking sick and throw up from inhaling a full cigar, it's fucking loaded with nicotine. Cigars have enough nicotine that you get buzzed just from keeping the smoke in your mouth. Also I'm not sure why you randomly added that conditional that I'd have to exhale through my nose, that seems extremely random.
I've inhaled cigar smoke before though and it's really not THAT bad, it's just not very pleasant.
Also lots of crazy cigar smokers do actually inhale them AND exhale through their nose (some don't even inhale the smoke but still exhale through their nose as well)
Sublingually, but yeah the entire mouth can absorb nicotine and other drugs. Those terms (buccal and sublingual) are usually just referring to a specific delivery method (like suboxone strips for sublingual use) as opposed to identifying the only places drugs can be absorbed (though there are differences in how readily certain areas let in drugs)
Never tried those, they're impossible to find unless you seek em out in my experience. Pretty sure I wouldn't like Fent though, I'm all about that slow burn
Have you ever smoked cigarettes or a vape? You actually do build an immunity of sorts, you get desensitized to the harsh feeling in your throat and lungs and I think your cilia getting fucked from smoking a lot actually makes the reflex to cough diminish as well. This is why when smokers quit they start coughing up fucking gallons of nasty shit, the cilia recover and start pushing out all the stuff that they couldn't before.
I started smoking my sub-ohm vape with 18mg nicotine juice until I could get new juice (traditionally 1.5-6mg is used on these) and it's really harsh and makes most people cough and/or sick at first but after I used it for a few days it was nothing.
Just be careful with use. Adam Carolla said something that made sense to me: " I only do it a little so that I can keep doing it forever. If I were to do it all of the time, I'd get sick and would have to stop." (Paraphrased)
I'm a little surprised at how many people I know who have smoked all their lives(I'm talking since early teens), and make it into their 70s, 80s without any obvious problems.
Probably the difference between lung cancer and mouth cancer.
Philias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. People always have an anecdote like 'but my nana smoked all her life, she lived to 130!' as if that somehow means that smoking is healthy or something.
Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke cigars every so occasionally that way. I like the taste, but if you inhale that shit it feels like you got kicked in the chest by a mule.
It's hell on your gums and throat. Throat cancer is actually very rare without provocation. Smoking is one of the few things that can reliably cause it.
Of course it's better. Inhaling means the smoke contacts your lungs and your mouth. The other way you skip contact with the lungs. Even ignoring how much more deadly lung diseases are than oral ones, it's obvious to see that one is better.
I had a great aunt who smoked like a freight train. Like 2-3 packs a day until she died in her 90s. She finally died of old age. Never had any lung problems. But she never actually inhaled the smoke into her lungs. She would always just draw it into her mouth, and then blow it out.
As a former smoker myself I never understood the point if you weren't going to inhale. The cost and smell alone are cons enough to just not smoke at all if you're not going to inhale. But she always talked about loving the taste and then bragged about how the doctor told her he couldn't believe she was a smoker. I think as a young girl no one ever taught her to actually inhale, and later none of us ever had the heart to tell her she wasn't actually "smoking."
I was thinking your last phrase... she was not really a smoker, and all she ever tasted was the worst part of smoking a cigarette, which is already bad in itself.
Faerhun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If anything its only better for your lungs and either the same or worse for your mouth.
It's a lot better, actually. Cigar and pipe smokers don't (unless they're uninformed or are doing it to replace cigarette addiction) inhale into the lungs. Sure, it's not healthy(though some studies have shown that the stress relief benefits can apparently outweigh the health negatives in overall health), but it won't do anywhere near the damage that inhaling into the lungs will. The only major health concern is gum infection, but proper dental hygiene essentially nullifies that. You can't really scrub/floss/rinse your lungs, but you can your mouth. I looked into the potentials of mouth cancer as a result of smoking cigars/pipes before I got into the hobby, and I couldn't find much of anything that suggested that there was any real risk. Sure, it's possible, but just as severely cutting your finger and getting an infection while preparing food is a risk, and it's probably a higher risk too.
Dip, on the other hand, will put you at much, much larger risk for mouth cancer.
Generally, if you're smoking for a hobby and the flavors, no matter what you're smoking, you won't inhale into the lungs.
true 2 types, this was common when i gre up. smoking, but not sucking it into your lungs, ws called not inhaling in my neighberhood.
taking a puff and sucking it only into your mouth was called not-inhaling, and you were not a real smoker/man/ etc and would be called out for "not inhaling". in reality the effect of nicotine only happens when you inhale, same as with reefer,crack,meth or any drug that works by using th lungs to get the medication into the bloodstream
My grandma smoked two packs a day unfiltered, and her mother, and her father (tobacco farmers) smoked a pipe quite a lot. All three lived to be so old their minds went. The grandma is still alive, quit about 20 years ago.
Btw, my grandma used to say there were two ways of smoking
Your grandma was correct.
To be specific, the method you describe is the standard way of smoking cigars.
The lining of your mouth is not all that dissimilar to the lining of your lungs, as far as absorbing chemicals from the air. The lungs are mostly just different because they have a MUCH higher surface area thanks to all sorts of specialized structures.
Nicotine is absorbed by holding smoke in your mouth in exactly the same way as if you inhaled, it's just only absorbing a fraction as much.
It depends. Smoking a cigar a day won't put you at much higher risk of getting mouth cancer than your average risk of contracting it just from existing, so long as you practice proper dental/mouth hygiene.
Dip is the only real culprit of tobacco-based mouth cancer.
Cigars you hold the smoke in your mouth, cigs youre supposed to inhale to your lungs. Im not saying she smoke cigars, but she was probably using the same cigar smoking method to get her nicotine fix.
Increases the chances of lung cancer. Mouth-smokers will just get mouth cancer. That genetic marker thing is really interesting though, I wonder if people with the "deep inhale" marker are more likely to become long-term smokers โ since I'd say 90% of smokers do deep inhale. If nothing else, it probably helps us get addicted.
I would never joke about her like that. She was a lovely woman and the world is a worse place without her.
RIP Grandma, you were the best suck for a buck I ever met.
Well she's right. She smoked cigarettes like cigars (to your mouth for flavor) instead of to your lungs, for that sweet hug of death. God how I miss that hug. . .
The internet: the great source for misinformation.
What you say is intuitive, i wonder if anyone has done a study like this. I would hypothesize that strict oral inhilation might lead to oral cancer sooner as one would hold the smoke in longer inside the mouth versus taking it into the lungs.
*had to look up Hypothesize to be sure I used it correctly. Webster says: "to make a hypothesis" thanks dictionary. Now I know /s/
Dang, a vivisection of joke always ends up in its death. I'm sorry I made you explain it. Now I became the guy that's always on /r/jokes saying :"I don't get it?"
My grandmother used to say, "If you can't believe in anything, believe in love. Two people meet and decide to share their lives together, and bring another life into this world. A child that can one day share the same love as their parents, who are ideally of the same ethnicity because if there's one thing I don't believe in, it's mixed race couples."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I raaaaaarely smoke, and when I do I inhale only in my mouth. For the longest time I thought that was the right way. Now I just do it so I can still enjoy the action of smoking, without the nasty inhalation or the ridiculous vape.
Not supposed to lung inhale cigars according to a lot of old people I talk to.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is evidence your grandma was right. They found smokers that switched to a "light" cigarette had their cancers develop in the deepest part of the lung. This was found out that these smokers inhaled deeper and held the smoke longer to compensate for the now lighter levels of nicotine etc.
My grandma just died at 84 from COPD (from lung cancer she had at 41. She continued to smoke into her 60s. I did some research on smoking and COPD and it's estimated that smoking only takes 3.5 years off your life while COPD (beyond stage one) takes 9.5 years. It's hard thinking about what I would have done with that extra time with my Grammy (or even if she had that 3.5 years where she wasn't sick). She was also a stubborn one and refused medicines until she really couldn't anymore.
When I was in college, my friend, Billy, showed me how to smoke pot without inhaling. Later, I heard he attempted to help a coworker smoke a cigar using only her vagina. It's definitely possible to smoke without inhaling.
She was right, and I continue to smoke her way when I do. Inhaling into your mouth is how most people smoke cigars and pipe, because the raw tobacco is alot more harsh then what's normally in cigarettes, but I started with cigars and the habit passed over when I started with cigarettes
It takes a bit to get the technique down with tamping down the tobacco, but I enjoyed it while I did smoke. I went to cigarettes after I stopped drinking outside and had to cut smoking into short bursts
With the new laws about smoking, it's as if you're a criminal. Some places you have to be a certain distance away from the bar. Like you're in a horrible time-out. I know smoking can be bad and has very harmful effects, but there should be a better attempt to control the smoke from it. Vaping seems to be a step in the right direction.
I don't like second-hand smoke, but the people I know that smoke often, are not bad people.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I am sure hundreds have said, that's how you smoke a cigar. Mouth only. You'll puke if you inhale into your lungs more than a couple of times. (No stories of badass grampas inhaling cigars. Idgaf. Seen it.)
How I love this movie. Also, the way I felt when I first tried eating a cigarette because it smelled nice. For anyone that has not done this, it's a very sharp flavor on the sides of your tongue, the flakes get stuck to your mouth like a peanut butter tick (if those existed).
I hope to be that fucking or lucky to live that age. It did seem my gramma got something out of it since she would smoke hourly and it always had to be unfiltered.
My grandmother was a life long smoker that lived to be 94. She had me take to the ER for emphazema and a young doctor asked her about smoking. At the time she was 87,she told the doctor she was not going to quit. He told her," you're 87, if you want to smoke,smoke as much as you want to!"
I've heard that with people that have been drinking daily for years that stopping or quitting is more detrimental because the body cannot function as well without it. Anyone heard of this?
She's not wrong. The mouth way is how people smoke cigars. Don't get me wrong, it's still really bad for you and cigar smokers have higher rates of throat and mouth cancer.
I'm allergic to smoke, and I have friends that love Hooka and the vape stuff. Yes hooka bothers me and I can only be around it for a short bit before I start coughing. Vapes don't bother me one bit.
So occasionally I'll be with them and they'll be smoking something that smells good and offer to let me try it. I've never tried breathing into my lungs with a vape or anything, sure I would choke badly.
But what I do is hold my breath, then just suck a bit of air into my mouth via the vape until I taste it. I take a moment to enjoy the taste, then blow it back out and breathe.
I actually started doing this to help with weight control at one point because I use the vape flavors with 0 tobacco. I just like the flavors. Favorite is a caramel apple one.
Yes there are! Most vape liquid comes in various dosages of nicotine. So if someone is trying to quit they can start on a high dose and go lower. Most flavors have a 0 nicotine kind. :) The more you know, right?
I read this as your great-grandmother was stillborn.
That'll mess up a weekend.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in high school, there was a very scrawny, not athletic kid on the wrestling team with me. He had a portable nebulizer that he would carry around with him. Why you would try to wrestle if you carry around a fucking nebulizer is beyond me.
Side note- I had contracted pneumonia a year prior and used an Albuterol inhaler following that whenever I was doing athletic things.
Anyway, I saw this kid take his inhaler once. He would breatheout completely, inhale a deep breath, put the inhaler in his mouth, seal his lips around it, and then puff the inhaler into his mouth, remove the inhaler and close his lips. He would hold his breath for about 5 seconds, and then exhale.
I tried to tell him what was going on and why his inhalers didn't work for him but the nebulizer did work- it's because of his inability to think. He assured me he was doing it right.
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. You mean he'd puff out, into the inhaler? Like, totally opposite of the point?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
almost. he'd puff it into his mouth, but not into his lungs, since they were already full. And just hold it in his mouth for a few seconds, like you do with a cigar. Then exhale.
We had a diabetic patient who kept coming back with extremely high sugars. We asked him if he was following the regiment we taught him...testing his blood sugar, using the sliding scale, measuring the correct dose of insulin in the syringe etc. He went through all the steps and it sounded like he was doing everything right.
We asked him to demonstrate the steps he took so we could observe and correct any mistakes he may have been making. He did everything write until the very last step. He drew up the insulin in his syringe, pulled an orange out if his bag, injected the insulin into the orange, then ate it.
Turns out when he was taught to practice how to give himself subcutaneous injections with oranges he didn't realize he actually needed to inject himself for the insulin to do its job.
perscitia ยท 2037 points ยท Posted at 23:01:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you repost this from that "what's the stupidest thing a patient has ever done" thread from a while ago or does this same guy just keep turning up in hospitals?
(I mention because it's my favourite stupid person story to quote at people.)
[deleted] ยท 606 points ยท Posted at 23:08:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say what gives it away as untrue is that he proceeded to eat the orange. If he was simply demonstrating the steps he wouldn't do that. Unless he was really stupi..wait
DFWV ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 00:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Type 1 diabetic checking in. If the dude was eating an insulin-infused orange...props to that guy.
Insulin is nasty.
firstoff ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:39:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lack of insulin is nastier...
DFWV ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes, of course. I meant it tastes nasty. I'd be fucked without my injections.
When you were being taught how get your rig set up, would you actually use insulin or would it be water (or something)? I can't imagine insulin is cheap.
I just went through training for my 19 month old diabetic daughter, they used real insulin for my training. It is very expensive but it expires quickly so it may be old or something?
Sorry to hear about your daughter. I really wish you strength.
That kind of makes OPs story make a more little sense. As a kid, medicine tastes bad. So putting it into an orange to try and "mask" the flavor wouldn't seem too weird.
Thank you i appreciate it! And well I was instructed not to give her carb/sugary stuff after insulin as a snack, it's only with meal time but who knows what kind of training they had, mine was very intensive because she is so young.
I really wanted to give that poor guy the benefit of the doubt. That's a scary mistake because it's literally life and death.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably was old. Not diabetic but have really bad gut issues and get it nutrition and other meds. I've nutrition is absolutely insane but I know I was taught set up with actual bags and such. (Hell needles and syringes alone are expensive, for that matter). Anyway some nurses I knew would take expired bags and stuff to use for teaching. So more than likely you're probably right.
Sorry to hear about your child. My son was diagnosed at 22 months. He's almost 20 now. If you ever have any questions or just want someone to chat with, I'm always available. If you send me a pm I can send you my email address. I used to deliver goody bags from jdrf to newly diagnosed families in my area and be the leader of a support group. Best of luck and I'm here if you just need a friend that has been there before.
Medical staff here, not a doc. Everytime we start someone on insulin or similar injectable meds, we always walk and talk them through injecting their first dose while injecting it themselves. If they do it correctly the first time, they get the "scary needles" phobia out of the way sooner and are more likely to follow the treatment plan. If they mess up, we can correct it at the start.
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:39:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha I'm laughing that you clarified not being a doctor because doctor's are generally pretty clueless about injectable meds anyhow. Nothing like landing on long term IV nutrition (TPN) and while a nurse is teaching me the doctor walked in, took one look at what we were doing, literally threw her hands in the air as her eyes bulged out of her head and said something along the lines of "Woah! That's way to complicated!" And well, I don't know what you do or how familiar if at all you are with TPN but sure it's more complex than a lot of things but sheesh, that doctor sure didn't help my nerves about learning!!!
Haha. I think its because most docs get training and expertise in specialization, and forget some of the lesser things along the way, which is where staff with their expertise comes in to put all the pieces of the healthcare puzzle together. I've no experience with IV nutrition, but watching smart competent docs try to do something they're unfamiliar with is entertaining (when its not life threatening, side note). However, I'm grateful when they know what they're doing and save lives.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh definitely. I agree. Nurses never get enough credit for how much they do either in terms of dispensing meds, patient education, taking care of some down right miserable folks.
It's pretty problematic though the way the US health care system is so highly specialized when so many illnesses cause a broad array of symptoms or lead to secondary health issues so care gets so fractured up (and doctors themselves even complain of this) and I had a PCP once who I genuinely began to wonder what her purpose was since even with the most basic stuff (I mean having the issues I do I don't expect my primary care doc to have the answers for the rare disease stuff, you know?) she'd hand me a sheet of paper with a list of different specialists and circle the phone number for whoever she wanted me to call. The one and only thing she wouldn't outsource for that probably should've been was intractable migraines. I couldn't tolerate the conventional meds but when asked her response was literally "Well, I have migraines." Ugh. But no doubt I owe my life to some great doctors. The IV nutrition stuff though is almost entirely managed by some badass well trained speciality pharmacists, dietician, and infusion nurses though so even give my fractured care rant, it's a really fine example of how well different care providers can work together to take care of people.
When my son was diagnosed we used little vials of saline. We injected into oranges first. Then we made a circle and everyone injected into the person next to them so we could get the feel of real skin before having to do it on a little kid. It might just depend on what the hospital has available. We were at the largest children's hospital in our state. They probably have a lot more available than a small, rural, general Hospital.
DFWV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow, damn...uh...that was awhile back (like...18 or so years ago?)
I'm almost positive it was saline, though. I don't see any point in them having you use actual insulin when learning how to administer injections (into something other than yourself.)
Thanks! That seemed kind of off to me. Another poster above said they'd just gone through training with their infant and used actual insulin. If it was the latter, OPs story made a little sense.
When I was a kid, I hated taking "yucky medicine". So my parents would mix it into juice or something. So if insulin is gross, I could see how a kid could make the leap to why they put it in an orange and then eat it.
DFWV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see that logic, yeah. But unfortunately, that's just not how insulin works. Ingesting it won't actually do much, if anything.
Also, as far as insulin being yucky is, I can really only comment on the smell of it...and...an indirect taste, if that makes sense. It's odd, because sometimes when you get an injection, you can sort of "taste" it...but like...you're not actually tasting it? It's hard to explain. It's not like overwhelmingly gross...it's just a smell that makes me not want to have actual insulin in my mouth.
I actually know exactly what you mean! I had to take a lot of medicines for a long time. There was one (I can't remember the name) that was like that.
Thanks for the info. I am glad to hear it sounds like you are doing well and I wish you strength into the future. Thanks for teaching me something I didn't know!
DFWV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DFWV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't eat it. It's a smell/taste you get in your mouth when you inject it sometimes.
horus7 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't make any sense to imagine this actually happening. Did he peel the orange first? Or did he start cutting it into quarters while the doctor looked on in interest?
In reality as soon as he started injecting the orange would be the point where you say "ok, here's your problem".
I just had an eight hour nightmare where I was in a room with goatse and I'd scream and turn to look away only to look right into Sauron's eye again. I finally just gave up and climbed inside like a dead tauntaun to stay warm through the night.
namedan ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:07:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the post where an ACA beneficiary celebrated Obamacare defeat, it's really not too far fetched.
ademnus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:05:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the computer repair story of the man who wanted his automatic cupholder fixed.
devoidz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:49:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually had that happen as a tech at best buy. He was upset, but calmed down when we told him we could install a new one. The old one wouldn't move anymore because coffee gunk was all over the cd tray. He was mad because someone laughed at him when he was describing the problem over the phone. This was about 1998.
My mother worked in IT for a large hospital, and will comfortably attest to the fact that this isn't an often repeated myth, but in fact just an insanely common misconception.
It's likely an urban myth...however, I work at a library and we regularly have a lot of mentally handicapped adults who come in and they take instructions absolutely literally. I have to always remind myself to not use any type of idiom or anything with them, because they don't understand. Like, if you say "hop on the computer," most people know that means you're logging on, but several of these adults will take it to literally mean jump up and down on a computer... In these cases, if a nurse or aide just did a quick demonstration and didn't take into account any other issues, it's not that farfetched to think a patient would follow step by step what he'd seen...
I feel like someone reciting an urban myth wouldn't use the word "subcutaneous." It's a pretty specific word that I've never heard outside of the context of injections.
I'll give you a real diabetes story. My grandma was pissed and frustrated that the social worker who came to visit kept insisting she shouldn't be eating a slice of bread with jam on it for breakfast everyday because it's high in sugar.
"There ain't hardly any sugar in that bread and none in the jam! I made it myself! I even picked the berries!"
My mom was having tea with her one day. She checked her sugar and it was high so she went to the freezer and took out some dog berries because they're tart and tart is the opposite of sweet.
I loved my grandma like no other. I aspire to be as strong and compassionate as her. But damn did her lack of access to education put her at a disadvantage.
Besides the use of "write" instead of "right," the other thing that makes me question the veracity of this post is the use of "regiment." I do medical transcriptions and I've heard doctors mistakenly use "regime," but never "regiment." The correct word is regimen.
2059FF ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seen all three, but it seems regiment and regime are equally common, while regimen is less commonly used. Small sample size and all the usual disclaimer apply.
Edit correction.
KinseyH ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:12:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Regiment is an army unit; regime is a government; regimen is a plan or a process or a series of rules. English speaking medical pros wouldn't confuse them, but non native English speakers might.
Regime and regimen are both correct. Regimen feels somewhat archaic though.
hackel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL. Sounds like this use of regime has a slight British bias, so now I'm curious where you're from. To this US American, regimen seems much more natural.
Singapore. Pretty much British English although it's become a lot more international in recent years. Not a language expert nor a native speaker, I just use what feels like the right word and check stuff out when in doubt.
I honestly never realized that regiment and regimen are different words until just now; I only knew "regiment" was a word. But in my dialect, I tend to drop obstruents following nasals (e.g. a /t/ following an /n/), so I pronounce "regiment" as /หษนษ.dอกสษช.mษชnห/ "regimen" anyway.
It sounds like a version of the condom-on-the broomstick story. Sex ed workers in India were teaching women to use condoms, so they put them over the end of a broomstick to demonstrate. When the village women showed no change in teen pregnancies, they went to investigate, and found the Indian women were putting the condoms on their broomsticks. That's a famous apocryphal story from health aid workers. I bet there are versions in every field.
CaptRory ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:01:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read a similar story in a Medical Stories Calendar I had.
Nah, it's pretty stupid to think that we can take insulin orally (we can by the way but obviously not the kind he had prescribed) but that it first needs to be injected in an orange.
And how did he explain the needles? Why the fuck would you need a needle just to inject some shit into an orange? And why would they get tossed into a biohazard container if all he did with them was stick them in an orange?
So if you were never explained anything about insulin or waste products you'd know exactly what to do and wouldn't just copy what you saw? (Which is exactly what we're hard wired to do)
That's exactly what I did: when I was diagnosed I had never used a needle before in my life, nor had I attended the seminar they wanted me to (it was too much), and yet, I new to find a spot on my body that would hurt the least and go for it.
We had a diabetic girl enrol in my high school. The father provided to
1) fail to inform us she was insulin dependant diabetic.
2) provide us with her insulin.
3) take 30 minutes to come when we called him.
4) was offended when the Principal yelled at him for 20 minutes and refused to allow the girl back into school until we had the doctor note, her insulin, her snacks and her emergency plan.
auraseer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's very frequently posted by many people in many places. I've been hearing the same story since I went to nursing school. So either there are enormous numbers of really terrible diabetes educators out there, or else some people are just reposting for karma.
FTR, when we teach someone how to use insulin, we have them really inject themselves. Oranges are used for teaching sutures, not injections.
T1 diabetic here. When they sent me home from the hospital, they gave us saline in vials for me to practice injecting fruit and drawing up the syringe.
My mom was apparently drawing up saline for my injections for at least two weeks before we caught on thankfully it was only for one meal.
I used to work for a company that sold diabetes supplies. one time I talked to a nurse who was trying to help a man that had been rubbing the insulin on his skin instead of injecting it!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would that work if you put the insulin in something that can carry it through the skin, like DMSO? Or would the dose be all wrong?
Are you freaking serious?? As a diabetic...this blows my mind. On a slightly related topic, my very first prescription fill for insulin after I was diagnosed (I was 12), had the wrong instructions printed on it. It read, "Inject into left ear". Thankfully my father and I are not dumb as rocks, so we called the pharmacy that filled our order, they nearly had a heart attack, and told us to proceed with normal injection sites. 19 years later, my control has never been better.
This is why I have to say "unwrap and insert this suppository. The suppository is smooth. The wrapper had rough foil corners that hurt. Peel where it says 'peel here' and then unwrap the whole thing before inserting it rectally, which means this goes where poop comes out, meaning your anus, not your vagina or urethra. Can you now explain to me how to use this rectal suppository so that I know you understand?"
That's an exaggeration of how much I talk down to people, but people will literally cut their buttholes by not reading directions. They're so stupid sometimes.
How do you know how to spell subcutaneous and use it correctly in context, yet don't know how to use "regimen" instead of "regiment" and "right" instead of "write?" I'm baffled.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this guy's defense, this seems pretty reasonable. He was just doing what he was shown. What other time would it be proper to do something painful to yourself when what was demonstrated was totally painless?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow. When I was diagnosed at 3 YO. They wouldn't let me go until my mom followed the correct steps and measurements on her own and injected it into my arm. She cried a lot but did it after a couple of hours. Glad I didn't remember that and just learned how to do it since I was young.
081890 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle was a paramedic before he became a firefighter. His truck responded to a call of an unconscious guy. They get there and there is white powder everywhere and white little granuals. He asked the people around the unconscious guy "wtf is this shit" they responded with "he's got the suggas". So again my uncle very confused said "what the fuck is suggas" they responded "he needs sugar to feel better." These people were pouring sugar in his nose and ears to help this diabetic guy that passed out because he blood sugar was too low. People if you have diabetes please fucking educate the people around you! They can save your life!!
Why the fuck did they not at least get him to inject himself in front of them to begin with to make sure he wasn't going to faint or stab the wrong bits full of holes.
He was likely prescribed it in the hospital before having it at home. They were giving it to him in the hospital as an injection. Either he was extremely slow or this is a myth.
The fact that you refer to his regimen as a regiment and say that he did everything "write" makes me seriously question your level pf education and medical training.
question, does insulin have to be IV'd to be useful, does it have at least some oral bioavailability? Would he still have been getting SOME insulin in his system with this method? Sorry if that's a dumb question, obviously the bioavailability wasn't good enough to keep him out of the hospital but I'm just curious if it has any affect whatsoever taken orally
Beanzii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would eating the orange filled with insulin not help his blood sugar?
Reminds me of a girl I knew a few years ago. Her dog had extremely dry skin and her vet recommended a high regular dose of fish oil. We got by her house about a week later and the place reeks of fish oil. She comes out and said the oil is working but her dog is so gross she can't pet her or anything. Of course, she'd been just rubbing it on the dogs coat every day instead of putting it her food. She literally stopped being friends with us after we pointed it out because it made her feel so stupid
Actually this happened to me with a patient once, we need to stop teaching people how to inject themselves with fruit. I refuse to use fruit and use a teddy bear or a pillow instead. Source:Diabetes Educator
Edit: another Educator used fruit to teach the patient, did the same thing you did to investigate and found the insulin in the orange.
I'm sure the House episode was based off of real life. I have heard lots of inhaler stories from respiratory therapists having to educate people on how to use inhalers. Quite a lot of people don't understand how to breathe in.
oak11 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:39:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. I seem to recall, not sure where I got this information, that a lot of the medical cases shown on shows such as House take from real life stories from physicians.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:56:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I tried weed I did this to myself by breathing through my nose. Totally by reflex because it was so weird to deliberately inhale particles/vapor. (I've obviously never smoked cigarettes or used an inhaler or anything.)
Since I really did want to try it, I held my nose shut and only let myself breathe in through my mouth, fully sealed on the mouthpiece. Worked like a charm. Got high.
Lucky for me I've read enough posts from stoners on reddit to know you should keep it down longer to get high before my first (and currently only) time. Apparently I had a lot, but I still didn't even really feel it. Idk if it was because I was drunk or because I'm heavy weight like I am with alcohol, but I ate a lot of coolie dough so that was fun.
oak11 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 12:04:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If smoking weed you shouldn't hold it in for too long. The coughing is actually what's activating the thc in your system.
No, he's wrong. The THC is absorbed by the tissues in your lungs and then sent into the bloodstream. People say that coughing gets you higher but I think that's because your lungs are opening up to try to get more oxygen so it absorbs more.
You are definitely supposed to be holding it down as long as you can. It doesn't matter if you cough or not.
It took me foreeeeever to get one of my friends to breathe in correctly. For some reason it was a really difficult task for him. But for some reason he was just fine with a vaporizer. He's a special one that one.
I read the instructions for my inhaler 3 or 4 times and I learned something new every time.
Those things just don't make any sense. It's lucky they have a dose built in or I'd probably drain the whole bottle by holding it down a millisecond too long or something.
I had a dry powder emergency inhaler (the one you take when you start getting chesty). The people who designed it don't seem to understand how breathing works. I start feeling chesty and I'm expected to draw a sharp deep breath on through it. If I could do that I wouldn't need it. Changed to a spacer and "spray" inhaler soon after my first and last big attack.
Alix1723 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the spacer was the default way to use it, I think people would get the idea a lot quicker - puff some medicine into the spacer, then breathe in from the mouthpiece at the other end. The whole breathe-and-puff-at-the-same-time motion isn't as intuitive as it seems
Yeh my mate is a doctor and says if he had his way they'd all come with spacers. I agree. Spacer just makes it foolproof and I think (although could be placebo effect) it works better.
Pharmacist checking in. I've not been a pharmacist for long (almost 2 years), but, I've encountered at LEAST 3 people who use their inhalers by holding it 6-8 inches from their mouth. I've also had diabetics that didn't realize they needed the pen needles to put on the tip of the insulin pens, so they were just leaking insulin in their tummy thinking they were getting medication.
I mean, you should be able to tell if it worked correctly in a few hours, less for most cases if you were to actually check frequently when you're worried it didn't work. Those pens are amazing for someone who has to take shots. They're much easier to use than syringes (better dose consistency, more accurate and less room for error) and they're less painful because you don't have to dull the needle by sticking it into a vial first.
I've actually been advised by a pharmacist to hold it 2-3 inches away -- in order for the particles to space out and be inhaled more fully. Same principle as a spacer, which is what I use instead. I have no idea if this is accurate, though.
CX316 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're using some weird-ass inhaler, no, your pharmacist is an idiot. That sort of distance you're losing the vast majority of the dose into the air, at least with the spacer (I'm assuming that's the same thing as a nebuliser) you're still inhaling the entire dose because it's an enclosed space and the drug has nowhere to go.
Any pharmacist who told you that is wrong. As another person said, you wouldn't be getting the full dose since its not in an inclosed space.
I've also had one person spray it on their neck like perfume/cologne, thinking it would "soak in".
Instances like this is why I never fear my job as a pharmacist can be done by robots.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instances like this is why I never fear my job as a pharmacist can be done by robots.
Oh, don't you worry. If other service jobs are anything to go by you're going to get replaced by an automated answering machine and 10 years down the road people will be wondering why there is a sudden spike in asthma problems.
Why are dry powder relievers a thing? They require a deep sharp breath which is something I can't do by the time I need one. I now have my asthma much better managed but was I using that type of inhaler wrong or did they just suck?
Katyafan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, they sucked, can confirm.
CX316 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends, really. Over the years I had a bunch of different inhalers. Nowadays I skip the doctor and just go to the pharmacy and convince them I need an emergency replacement ventalin inhaler because the doctors seem to like getting creative with what they make me use.
Worst one I remember was the rotorhaler. It was a small pair of interlocking plastic pieces, one side had a mouth hole and the other had a small round hole in it. You were then prescribed the asthma meds (bryccinyl? Something like that) in the form of a plastic capsule resembling a normal pill. You inserted the capsule into the round hole, twisted the two parts of the inhaler opposite directions to break it open, then took a sharp breath through the mouthpiece. That thing was awful.
Then I got upgraded to needing two tubuhalers, those ones were a similar concept but had the powder in an internal reservoir that twisting the bottom of the inhaler would dose out the right amount for you.
Then I switched to the aerosol ones using salbutamol/ventalin, and by far the best is the normal "puffer". It's cheap, it's effective, but you still gotta take deep hard breaths if you want it to work because you need the drugs to get into the lungs nice and deep. A lot of people have trouble with the timing or the breathing, and my doctor the last time I got a script for an inhaler just assumed I was an idiot despite me never having an issue with timing the breath, and prescribed me an autohaler. Now, firstly the autohaler cost about three times as much as the puffer, at least. Same dosage, same number of doses per inhaler, so way more expensive overall. It was also bulkier because it was a puffer canister inside a chunky device with a trigger. What you did was cock back the hammer like a revolver to activate the mechanism, then you put it in your mouth and inhale sharply. The air movement from the inhalation would set off the spring mechanism and fire the puffer. Great for people who can't work out when to breathe, but by golly that thing was the bane of my existence because you looked like a right wander using it, it was bulky, it took more time to use, and it was expensive.
In fairness, how to use an inhaler is something that goes through fads. In forty years with asthma I have been taught several contradictory methods by doctors and nurses, and been chastised for using the last method with the new guy. (Eg - at one time several puffs in quick succession inhaled with a single breath hold used to be okay, now it's not, you have to do it singly). Doctors forget that we live with this illness over many decades, and in many cases stayed alive just fine doing the once-accepted thing that the latest study considers less effective than the current preferred thing. So you do start to take the finger wagging with a grain of salt.
I'm a patient with asthma and every single asthma/allergy doctor I have ever seen has made me show them how I take my inhaler to make sure I'm doing it right (I am).
It's amazing to me how many times I've heard from them that most of their patients don't get any medicine from their inhaler.
I play the trumpet. I've spent years taking lessons on how to breathe.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For sure. Honestly even when people aren't doing anything as strange as soap mentioned, it's still very easy to use an inhaler wrong. My asthmatic mother taught me wrong in childhood. Then I finally had a doc who was big on education teach me the right way so I taught my mom. Thankfully my asthma has always been pretty mild but my moms wasn't so sheesh. She was doing two rapid puffs and not breathing in with it. Hard to explain and honestly easy to overlook because it "looks like" taking an inhaler fine.
They also make something called a "spacer" that goes between the end of the inhaler and your mouth for this exact reason. They're pretty commonly given to kids (think I had one). So then you don't have to worry about timing your inhale with the puff of medicine.
There's also the guy (in House) who has a cockroach/some bug in his ear and freaks out in the waiting room. Saw that same thing on Untold Stories of the ER years prior. Except in the Untold Stories version the guy was so terrified of cockroaches he was basically catatonic and couldn't speak, only scream when the roach moved around or bit him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. I just made a comment about that. But That lady sparyed it on her neck like perfume.
Anodynic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin gave me his electric cigarette once. I blew on it and didn't know why it didn't work. People don't inherently have knowledge on all things. It might seem simple that you breathe in what you get from an inhaler, but if you have never seen one used and are used to other medicines such as cold medicines being spray relief on the tongue or nasal relief, how would you know automatically to puff then breathe in the airpuff without being taught?
fuidiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geez, just said the same before I saw this, that show covers everything indeed.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:56:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relatively new(er). Dry powder inhalers -vs- metered dose inhalers. When I say "newer", people seem to know the style I am talking about. When I say dry powder inhaler or MDI, they look at me stupid. They have been around for quite some time.
As a PA student who is also in an urban underserved area it's a sad reality. Though I must say I respect medical professionals who take the time with these individuals to make sure they're getting the proper care. To me it illustrates those who actually care about their patients.
Damn. I feel pissed off every time I have to pick up an inhaler that they give me a 10 minute play about how it should be done. Perhaps I should just chill out
My husband was given an inhaler for bronchitis last fall, and that's how he was using it. I told him that didn't make sense or look right (never seen anyone use one that way) and he swore up and down that's how the doctor told him to use it. Spray it about 8 inches in front of his face and then breathe in.
Yeah no. They tell you not to stick it in your mouth unless you have a spacer, but it should be about two finger widths away and you need to breath in deeply as you push the puffer.
I could see the two finger widths being misinterpreted, but you can tell your husband he's hilariously wrong. 8 inches in front of your face will do nothing.
leinyann ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for my annual asthma review appointments, I always hear stories like this. idk how somebody can be prescribed a medication and not given a five minute talk on how to use it :/
xina08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:51:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that Binanca thing just a joke from Dumb and Dumber? Its implying that the guy is dumb for not just spraying it in his mouth, right? Here I've been spraying it directly into my mouth, am I going to survive doc?
Zidlijan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminded me of doctor house
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet we he finally hit it right, his eyes opened wide with instant relief. I feel really bad for him, because I'll go and refill my inhaler halfway before all the puffs are used, because a new one inhaler hits harder.
Well, inhalers don't actually help with asthma attacks in the first place. They just make you feel better. If he was actually having hospital worthy asthma attacks, it's probably a good thing he didn't know how to use it.
Stroker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked in a peds ED. We regularly had to tell parents that the kids are supposed to inhale the albuterol through the neb and not drink it.
This story is very similar to the episode in house where this one patient comes into the clinic for asthma too and an inhaler. When House asks how she uses it, she sprays it like perfume on the sides of her neck
This reminds me of an episode of House where he asks an angry old lady to show him how she uses her inhaler. She sprays it on her neck like it's perfume .. his expression was priceless lol
SilasX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that the whole purpose of the pointless dance at the pharmacy?
legrac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was diagnosed with asthma around 1.5 years old, so I never received any sort of education about it either.. I usually just calm myself down w/o an inhaler.
Wouldn't this cause a terrible yeast infection in the patient's mouth?
hiploser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom also has asthma and has an inhaler for it. She was using it the way I assume most people think to use an inhaler (lips around the mouthpiece, spray, and inhale). At one of her most recent trips to the doctor, however, the doctor apparently told her to use it the way you describe the patient doing so (i.e. hold it a few inches away from your mouth, spray, and then breathe in with your mouth).
It seemed counterintuitive to me and now I'm here wondering which way is actually correct.
This is why everyone should use a spacer with their inhaler. If you don't, you have people putting in their mouth, which is incorrect. Or you have someone holding a foot from their mouth. It should be around 3 inches from the mouth.
You probably changed his life...educating him on how to use an inhaler.
Schnooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient who would turn their head and puff twice over their shoulder. I asked them why they did bag, they said they did it exactly as demonstrated to them by the doctor.
I presume it was how the doctor demonstrated without actually putting their mouth on the patients inhaler.
To be fair, that's how I was taught to use mine by a doctor. The old ones came with a spacer tube to help you get the distance right, but I still spray mine similarly out of habit.
I work with people who are cognitively impaired. You don't know how many inhaler lessons I have given for basically this same thing. I'm going to take up calling it the binaca method!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of that episode of House, where that lady would spray the inhaler around her neck as if it were perfume. HA. That was great.
I tried to get my father to use his Flovent inhaler properly, and he just could not get the coordination right. He would always get his breath wrong somehow and try to swallow the med in his mouth. He understood perfectly that the med had to go into his airways, but he just couldn't do it. Thought about getting inhaler chamber, but he didn't develop asthma and his seasonal allergy became less severe, so never occurred.
ravia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When she used an inhaler, my mother drove me crazy. She would very carefully concentrate as she opened her mouth, would aim a puff into her mouth, then draw in a long breath through her nose, without opening her mouth at all.
Don't pharmacies usually prompt the patients to talk with another hospital rep at the counter for guidance on their prescription? They do where I live.
I have seen this several times when asking people to demonstrate how they use their inhaler, most often when they are complaining that it doesn't work: Two sprays into the air, then take a deep breath. Probably got more drug on their shirt than in their lungs.
P.S. if you or someone you know has trouble coordinating inhaler actuation with breathing in, ask the prescriber if that specific inhaler can be used with a spacer. And no, they are not just for kids!
Bad nurse syndrome, and before anyone rips my head off, I'm a nurse, and I've been the bad one. Never on purpose, but sometimes when trying to help as many people as possible, we may assume things are understood, but the message wasn't received. My bad nurse story happened when I was in Cuba. A patient came in with his mother. Three year old with an ear infection. Reconstituted a bottle of bactrim, gave it to mom with instructions to give it to him three times a day at the marked dosage. Everything seemed fine. Smart lady. Two days later baby comes in with 104 fever. I look in his ear, PINK! Mom had been instilling the medication with the provided dropper into the affected ear. Started an IV, got antibiotics started, and spent 30 minutes cleaning dried bactrim out of that poor baby's ear. All my fault, I was a bad nurse.
When I was working in a LTC facility, there was a hospice patient that would use their inhaler as if it was perfume. Just spraying it over his head and moving into the mist. It took me a little over a week to convince him it was meant to be INHALED. Poor fellow had been using it like that for months after being prescribed and no other CNA or LPN had told him how to properly use it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you watch House too.
heiferly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The respiratory therapists at your hospital don't use spacers? At the hospital I frequent, we're encouraged to use spacers. I prefer it because it takes some of the guesswork out of using the inhaler. Having that auditory signal if you inhale too quickly is a big help; when you feel like you can't breathe, the desperation can make you lose sight of proper technique.
There was recently (maybe 1/2 years ago) a big thing about this in the UK because a lot more people were dying from asthma than should have been considering it's mostly treatable. I actually have athsma and my symptoms were getting worse at the time, so I went to see the athsma nurse. Turns out I was taking my inhaler wrong (not to the extent mentioned in your comment), but this was because they had changed the type of inhaler and never told me how to use the new one.
Ngr101 ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Working in a rural OBGYN clinic, I told a pt to try Vitamin B6 to help with her nausea and morning sickness. She called back a few weeks later and told me that Walmart did not have Vitamin B6 so she bought B12 and has just been cutting them in half
Well... I could maybe understand thinking the number is a dosage if you're unfamiliar. At least she can do basic arithmetic. Based on the other stories in this thread that's a solid milestone.
I giggled. Poor lady, but at least her mistake wasn't likely to kill her.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a blonde joke. :)
ffxivfunk ยท 10064 points ยท Posted at 20:38:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That coming to the ER for a pregnancy test is a very very expensive way to do it. Apparently she didn't know you could buy one at the Rite-Aid down the block. Seriously, don't come to the ER for a pregnancy test, cause the test results won't be the only surprise you'll be getting.
Also, if you have diabetes, that you need to take your medication. No, 'getting fatter' isn't the worst that can happen. The worst that can happen is that you'll die. That's why you're in the ER with diabetic ketoacidosis and suffering organ damage. It's why you're gonna lose your toes. Take your goddamn meds.
[deleted] ยท 4302 points ยท Posted at 21:52:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This hits hard for me. I had an uncle who I was very close to who was very sick the entire time I knew him. I know he had very, very severe diabetes but I don't remember what else he suffered from.
I have these distinct memories of him taking me to McDonald's so we could throw the fries to the seagulls that hung out in the parking lot and he'd always have the heat on full blast because the circulation to his extremities was so poor.
By the time he died, he lost both of his legs and 4 of his fingers. Irony was he loved basketball so much. He used to chase me around with his leg "nubs" and race me down the street in his electric wheelchair. He was really amazing, he never let me be afraid of his amputations or his condition. I even used to give him insulin shots even though needles scare the shit out of me as an adult. He was a remarkable human being. I miss him and I wish he could've known me as a real developed person. Unfortunately I was 6 when he died. I hope he'd be proud.
EDIT: Fuck guys, you're all so nice. Thanks to all of you who reached out and said nice shit to me, it made my night. I'm in a place in my life where I could really use the positivity, so I really appreciate it.
I worked for a while at a fast food place that did delivery. We had a customer who would order every. Single. Night. Lived in a nice condo towards the edge of our delivery zone. When I started he had both legs, but clearly they were not in great shape. Within two months, his left leg was amputated. By the time I was fired (~ 2 months later) he had lost both.
He had an adult daughter who would occasionally call in begging us to not take his order, that he was diabetic and refused treatment and that we were a crutch to this serious issues. But he always paid, tipped well, so everyone just ignored her. His order was 3 of one of our most unhealthy options and four chocolate chip cookies.
The only time I took her call was the night before I was fired. I was the 'supervisor on duty' and so I got the call. And when he calls in to order I politely tell him that we would not be taking his order. His daughter had some form of power of attorney, and we were told not to accept his orders anymore. I apologize and tell him to have a good day.
Granted, I overstepped my authority, but I was tired of feeding what was clearly an addiction and didn't want any part of it, good tip or no. The next morning he called in to complain, and I was (as expected) fired. I don't count that as a bad thing.
Totally agree, don't regret it at all, the place was run poorly as well so I was happy to leave it.
Atario ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:57:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have a boss who had previously started and built up a successful beer brewery. But then one day he realized his best customers were raging alcoholics. He sold it and never looked back.
So sorry, thats really hard. I had an unwell diabetic uncle as well who passed recently and I'm a diabetic myself. Its a nasty disorder, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It sounds like you brought your uncle a lot of joy, though. I hope you find comfort in those memories.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not sure about type 1 but aren't type 2 very easy to reverse? i've heard of fasting clinics that have 100% success rate on reversing diabetes just after a month.
There is no cure for type 1 or type 2 diabetes. If you are a type 1 diabetic, you have to take insulin for the rest of your life- there is no amount of fasting or dietary changes that will make your pancreas create enough insulin again. For type 2, some are able to control it with changes in diet, but most have to take at least a pill to make their bodies more sensitive to the insulin their pancreas is creating while others have to inject insulin, like type 1s. There is no 'reversing' type 2, but some are able to minimize their medication intake. And I would not call it easy- I imagine it takes a herculean effort to restrict your diet to the point where no medication is necessary. Think VERY low carb- no sweets, no bread, no pasta, etc. and VERY routine. I do not know enough about these fasting clinics to make a very informed claim about them- but if a rep told me their clinic 'reversed' type 2 diabetes with only fasting after a month, I'd tell them they were full of shit.
Isoldael ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:50:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It highly depends on the case. If type 2 were so easy to reverse, it wouldn't be one of the biggest health issues in the western world today.
GmbHLaw ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something tells me I think he would be ;)
Glad you got to know him and carry his memory with you. For as young as you were, sounds like he made a good impression.
LnGrrrR ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, my son is 7. I hope I'm creating some awesome memories for him that are as good as your memories of your uncle. Good story man.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My papa had severe diabetes. He had lost most of his toes and fingers and then both his legs to his knees. He was on dialysis 3 days a week for years. He was one of the most amazing people I knew. We lost him when I was 14. He never complained a day in his life. I miss him everyday. It is an awful disease to watch someone go through. Sorry for your loss.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:07:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He sounds like he was a strong and special person. I'm sorry for your loss as well. Thank you for your kind words
I just read through your post history for a minute and I'm sure he'd be proud. Good on ya for taking that day off for your family. Life has it's ups and downs, material things seem to matter but we know they don't. it's your family that you were born into, and will have until death. but you've known that, even at 6.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:30:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats very kind of you to say, thank you. I like to think I did the right thing.
You are a wonderful person to have loved your uncle so much. You are also a very good writer. (And I can relate to needing some positives. Take care, internet stranger.)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. So are you!
YimYam1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:04 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
christ my man, you got soul. You seem to have a way with words too, a very pleasant read indeed! x
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed it! If my memories bring joy to one person, that means a lot to me. I'm a writer by trade, so I guess that makes sense, but thank you for the compliment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad died from a stroke when I was 6. He had type 1 diabetes. He was diagnosed later in life, he wasn't born with it. My mom said he never took care of himself. By the time he died he'd had both legs amputated below the knee. When I was 15, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.
Diabetes and related conditions have taken away my favorite family members, too. I wish they could have been around to see me and the family I have now.
What I've decided to do is to try hard to be like those guys, but without the diabetes, so the young people of my family can have me for a long time.
My uncle recently passed away due to the severe diabetes he had. He struggled A LOT with dialysis, he would have it done I believe every third day, so he would constantly be in and out of the hospital. I wasn't particularly close with him, but he would visit my dad often and they would watch soccer games every Sunday together. (I still miss having his company.) Even though we weren't close, his passing was extremely difficult on me because my dad is also a diabetic. Every single thing I saw with my uncle, I know is what Im going to expect with my dad, it's what my cousins have been advising me for. All they did during the time before my uncle passed was remind me to take care of my dad, and appreciate him, because I really won't know what diabetes can do to him, and it really breaks my heart to think I've now had a glimpse to what will happen.
BUT Be happy that you guys created memories together, it's the best thing in the world to cherish :) It's something that I know I will do!
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just so you know, thats probably WHY you are scared of needles. Not saying anything against it. even if it did cause later fear of needles, it obviously helped you a lot as a child, and that is the important part, as well as him caring enough to try to help you understand and deal with it.
But i KNOW that my families history of insulin dependent Diabetes coupled with learning how to and giving my mother her shots as a child is 100% the reason i am completely terrified of needles. (tho later incidents after i already had the phobia are why it is so much worse now then it was 10 years ago)
its just something ive noticed, and thought i would point it out.
Your Uncle sounds like a wonderful man <3
Luvagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why the 'why should I pay for dumb fat people who are leading bad lifestyles' attitude when it comes to the healthcare debate is so horrid to me.
Because they're fucking people that's why, they have more to offer the world than their shitty uneducated health decisions.
I think (almost) everyone has throw fries at seagulls at one point or another in their lives.
My dad used to like to put hot sauce on the fries then throw them. I always felt so bad for them but at the same time it was pretty funny. Don't worry, I'd feed them normal fries afterwards.
Lol, I used to work with a girl who had a faint positive on a home pregnancy test. She came into work very excited about it one day. She's in her early twenties, known her boyfriend for less than six months, and they are trying to get pregnant. Needless to say, my other co-workers and I were a little perplexed. She was so excited that if she couldn't get an appointment with her gyno the next day she said she was just going to go to the ER. What a waste of her money and, more importantly, the ER doctors' time and resources.
gdxn5301 ยท 2066 points ยท Posted at 21:40:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And she's in for a disappointing ER visit. The ER is for ruling out or treating life-threatening conditions. The ER isn't a magical place where you expedite whatever medical treatment you want.
PRMan99 ยท 1398 points ยท Posted at 22:22:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is if you have no medical insurance in the USA.
This is depressingly true. It's been more than a few times where my mother has gone to the ER simply because there is NO OTHER WAY for her to get treated. They can't legally turn her down, so it's the only option she has when things go wrong.
And this is one of the many sad reasons why US healthcare costs the US taxpayer twice as much as nationalised UK healthcare, while being less effective. It's absolutely crucial for both cost and effectiveness in healthcare systems to send people to the right place.
That's what I've never grasped as an American. Like people happily buy insurance that costs 20% of their income (if i max out my policy usage, it would be about 25% of my salary) because it's the free market, but if there was a 10% income tax to pay for better and free healthcare, they flip a dick and a half because it's socialism.
I make $78,000/yr. my insurance premiums are $17,520, $13,200 of which are paid by my employer.
I pay $17,520 for my insurance to pay 40% of my medical bills, at participating locations, many restrictions apply, please read the rest of the fine print for no details.
[deleted] ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 23:43:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people happily buy insurance that costs 20% of their income
What? No they don't. What on earth makes you think people are happy about that?
Omniseed ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 01:46:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many Americans are clearly happier to pay 20% for 'their' insurance than they are to have the same healthcare as those people.
I don't think anyone who has ever lived in America could deny that this emotionally reactive, bitterly oppositional, completely self-destructive dynamic does exist and does play a major role in American public policy making.
No American is happy paying this. And the reason Obamacare is failing is because they refused to require insurers and health care providers to level the playing field, which would have seen decreased profit margins. Fat cats pushed for less competition, state level tie-ins, regional monopolies (similar to our ISP situation), etc.
Yeah I'm pretty sure eveyone is prettt pissed about how much health insurance costs and what a convoluted bureaucratic cluster fuck the whole industry has become. Except Congress apparently.
[deleted] ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 00:34:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, they are certainly sitting pretty, but they should be pissed on behalf of their constituents. Every person who loses health jnsurance this year should be calling their local congressmen EVERY FUCKING DAY and telling how much their families have been hurt by the increased financial burden. To be fair though, the maybe the GOP has a plan that they've been playing reeeeeeaaallllyyy close to their chest that will help everyone get health care that prevents medical procedures from being financially driven decisions.
cder317 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:51:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's 100% subsidized by taxpayer dollars if you count the fact that they're paid with taxpayer dollars but they don't get any employer contribution, like any other person who gets insurance through their job. The ACA mandated that they have to buy their insurance through the exchange and they are ineligible for the individual subsidy.
Even if they did, health insurance would make up a much much smaller fraction of their income than the average family. It's not like taxes, where the more you make the more you pay in proportion to your income.
What on earth makes you think people are happy about that?
The commenter was drawing an implicit comparison with paying taxes. I.e., it's not that people are happy with paying 20% of their income, it's that they're less unhappy than they would be at the prospect of paying a 10% income tax. Of course, direct taxation wouldn't solve the problem. The entire American healthcare system needs rebuilding from the ground up. The American system doesn't just cost vastly more overall than any other nation on earth, but it is actually already mostly taxpayer funded - in fact, per capita, Americans already pay (a lot) more tax towards healthcare than any other country. What you guys need is properly organised nationalised healthcare.
Yup. I went to Denmark on vacation and got super sick, ended up going to the doctor and they were really concerned it was going to cost me a ton because I didn't have Danish insurance. It cost $40 including the medication. Which is basically less than my copay would be for those.
But even that isn't true. They aren't convinced that those two systems would be the same thing - in their mind, one involves rationing and death panels and long waits and infinite beauracracy, and the other doesn't.
It's not that they would rather pay 20% than 10% for the same health care system - that would indeed be stupid. Rather, they think that the system in which those who can afford it pay 20% is a very different, and superior system (no rationing, no death panels, etc.) from the one in which everyone gets it for 10% (rationing, death panels, etc.) Of course, the numbers need to be tweaked, but the basic worry is the same.
I'm not sure it's that worked out. On one level, the idea you describe is objectively untrue, in that countries with nationalised healthcare need far less money (in taxation) to pay for services that are, in reality, better than in the USA. (There are lots of reasons for this.) But we're not talking about reality, we're talking about the way people think. And you're right that a lot of people would probably think this. But I don't think it's so worked out. I think there's just an aversion to socialised healthcare of any kind as 'bad', just as there's a learned aversion to direct taxation as 'bad'. I'm not sure it's very consciously developed as an idea, partly because that seems to unlikely to be a commonly held belief as it's trivial to falsify in the information age.
I don't make a huge amount of money (just above middle class, but not by much) and I only pay... 7% of my income for healthcare. And I have an extremely expensive plan, the sticker price of which before my employer contribution would barely be 20% of my income.
It actually got us quite far but it was a restrained capitalism. Government stepping in and stopping unfair practices. Unions fighting for workers rights. Now we have nearly unfettered capitalism and we are going down the tubes fast because for some reason we think the idea of profit over all is a good one.
No you don't. You have statist capitalism, that is actually overregulated. It's over-regulated against the consumer, to prop up and support corporations. It's not a lack of regulation that's the problem, it's that the corporations have created a state that specifically regulates on their behalf.
We actually have some similar issues here in the UK. The problem with our trains, for instance, is not that they're 'privatised'. I mean, as a socialist I'm sort of obliged to say that privatisation is bad, mmkay, but that's really not the problem. The problem is that we have state-sanctioned monopolies. We have companies that own a market, and have no competitors, while being allowed to charge both the government and the customer as much as they want and effectively deliver whatever level of service that they like. So as I said the problem isn't privatisation per se, it's state sanctioned anti-competitive measures.
It's not a lack of regulation that's the problem, it's that the corporations have created a state that specifically regulates on their behalf.
Really, this has always been the case. The National Guard in the US used to come in and break strikes when private security firms couldn't do it themselves. Corporations have always bought elections and had their interests represented by the state. The state has existed in America to protect property rights first and foremost.
If there is such a thing as "genuine" free capitalism though, it would be an anarchistic society that is vastly worse for the average working person than today's statist capitalism with a corrupt representative democracy. Again, even in American history, there were company towns that would pay their employees in company scrip that could only be spent at company stores, and whose wages would be deducted for living in company housing and using company equipment. That's equivalent to slavery, or even worse because at least if you are a slave, there is some incentive to protect the investment and keep you alive. I think the kind of anarchistic capitalism people represent as an ideal would just self-organize into what are, in effect, small totalitarian states.
Again, as a socialist, I tend to agree. But I find that we can all - socialists and capitalists (or whatever people like to call themselves) - agree on the fact that the current status quo is wrong. And it's wrong because the state currently favours the corporations. We can all agree that the first step is to get rid of that. It's useful to have agreement across different ideologies and parties, even if it only stretches so far.
But I find that we can all - socialists and capitalists (or whatever people like to call themselves) - agree on the fact that the current status quo is wrong. And it's wrong because the state currently favours the corporations. We can all agree that the first step is to get rid of that.
That might be the first step, the tricky part is the second step. It's difficult to unite two polar opposite ideologies simply because they share the belief that the current system is deeply flawed. I might share that opinion with genuine fascists or neo-nazis but it doesn't mean I want to march shoulder to shoulder with them.
I agree. On the other hand, in my (obviously limited) experience, the main political differences between the philosophically minded Right and the Left is that right-leaning people believe left-wing politics is neat but completely unrealistic. A united front based on agreed policies - and I believe you probably could sell the American people socialised healthcare (and probably a few select other things) under any different name - might swing a lot of people over. And even if that isn't the case I'm inclined to say that getting half way there is still better than the situation right now.
, the main political differences between the philosophically minded Right and the Left is that right-leaning people believe left-wing politics is neat but completely unrealistic.
I think that's an overly optimistic view of the actual differences of opinion. People are viciously and vociferously anti-socialist... it's not that people simply think the ideas are "neat" but can't be implemented. It's relatively common that people equate social spending with communist China and the USSR. Under no circumstance would I want to be in a united front with people who want to dismantle social services simply because we happen to share the opinion that the status quo is flawed (again, for vastly different reasons).
Well, that's why I said 'philosophically minded', but yeah, you're right, it's optimistic. I like to think that, in spite of recent events, most people are essentially able to be reasoned with, if you take the time, patience, and understanding. Optimistic, but I'm OK with being optimistic.
You're from the UK, you guys have a labour party for fuck sake, even a lot of your right wingers aren't totally against things like the NHS, over here even some people on the "left" don't think a national healthcare system would work, good luck convincing anyone on the right, they literally think it would be the beginning of an authoritarian nationalization of all industry. The right acts like the bolsheviks are storming the gates and the Democratic Party is trying to turn the country into a communist hell-hole, and the left is sitting there thinking, where are all these socialists the right keeps yelling about? Fuck it, the Democrats keep getting accused of being socialists, maybe we should actually elect some socialists and see what the right thinks then.
Plenty of markets are pretty darn anti-competitive all by themselves, though. And a lot of the regulations, usually the ones Republicans most want to get rid of, are actually in place to protect customers and workers. The top of the hit list are always the environmental laws, you don't have to look around for long to see how badly we need those. Next up, protections for labor unions, then the minimum wage. They also work quietly to erode food safety, for a recent example, regulations on chicken slaughtering were changed to allow a higher line speed and let companies hire private inspectors rather than the government ones, if anything that's actually an anti-competitive change, and will lead to even worse safety and humanitarian issues than already exist.
Don't tell anyone, but as a socialist I believe that Capitalism naturally leads to a system dominated by these sort of degraded state-sanctioned fuedelistic monopolies. ;-)
You're right about the natural differences in markets. Some markets are just much more prone to them. Utilities, like energy or water, for instance, in which there's only one set of cables, or public transport, like trains, or even healthcare, are just more prone to these sorts of issues because they really only have limited room for multiple entities. That's one of the key reasons why socialist states nationalise healthcare, postage, railways, utilities, and so on. IMO, this seems fairly obvious, and like something about which everyone should agree - that areas in which an open and competitive market is an impossibility should be nationalised - but alas, it's not to be.
You're also right about entities trying to get rid of worker's rights. You have to understand, though, that most developed countries view the USA as in a deficit of worker's rights. While a lot of Americans seem to have the attitude that 0* C in terms of rights is literally 0 regulation on their behalf, most developed countries don't share that view. Most people from these places see the basic 0*C of worker's rights as a decent minimum wage, mandatory sick pay and maternity pay, protections from being unfairly dismissed, etc. So, you see, by this view the USA is actually in the negatives for worker's rights. The fact that these big corporations haven't managed to wipe out literally every scrap of protection is the difference between terrible and absolutely abominable, not the difference between slightly positive and neutral. Do you see what I mean? I'm not quite sure where I'm going with that but I'm positive that when I started this comment I believed it was relevant...
Capitalism naturally leads to a system dominated by these sort of degraded state-sanctioned fuedelistic monopolies.
It's kind of an inescapable conclusion, isn't it? I mean, the theory just plain doesn't work in the real world, so it would be very surprising if we got the same results. You need a barrier to entry of $0 and perfect information for capitalism to work properly, so with barriers in the millions or billions (plus market recognition) and humans only being able to learn so much we pretty much have to get immoral oligopolies, which then collude against the general population. The only alternative is to designate and pay people as watchdogs with the power to punish misdeeds, which is to say, have strong regulatory agencies, or else abandon the system entirely.
I'm not quite sure where you were going with the rest of it, but maybe I didn't make my point clearly enough. That was that discussing over-regulation (at least in my experience) usually comes with a set of assumptions and desires that are at odds with the goal of, to quote our Constitution, promoting the general welfare. It's never patents or, in some areas, the laws explicitly enforcing a cable monopoly that end up on the chopping block. So, heck, maybe I was off topic and just going off on my associations with the term. And yes, I am aware that the US is depressingly backward. I voted Sanders, and then Stein after checking that Clinton would be in the double digits in my state (Electoral College nonsense), but it doesn't seem to have mattered much.
Mmm, I agree with all of that. (Who knows where I was going with the end of that comment.) One of the reasons I framed my comment as I did - by accepting the problem was overregulation - is precisely because the right traditionally do the same. It seems to me that the way to combat that narrative - which in the hands of the right would result in the demolition of welfare, worker's rights, and so on - is to embrace and subvert that narrative. So the problem is overregulation, but only overregulation of the opposite type to the type the right is always arguing against.
ludsmile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wardrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good point. I guess the issue is that the capitalism that I've witnessed first hand has been an absolute shitshow to make as much money as you can regardless of the damage and bullshit.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we have nearly unfettered capitalism
No. Our country keeps getting more and more socialist. 100+ or so years ago is when we had laissez-faire capitalism.
Laissez-faire capitalism doesn't normally involve government sanctioned mass murder, effective slavery, or massive monopolies. Our strongest socialist policies were established in the '30s and '70s, and most have eroded since then.
Quiet you. This is the 'bash America no matter how objectively wrong you are' portion of the thread.
wardrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not American, but I understand what they are and what they do. The thing is, it seems like a whole lot of people think that Socialism is a bad thing. I think anything to get away from the corporate steamroller that's currently happening is a good idea.
jihiggs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
every one who is from a country that not only put 1 man on the moon, but put 12 men on the moon, raise your hand.
I think a single payer system would probably be a good thing for me and everyone I know.
But among the thought processes of those who consider government influence over healthcare bad is a fear of corruption. You could imagine a government so corrupt that only the powerful would have access to quality healthcare. But under the current system, if you work hard and earn a lot of money you have the option to spend it on healthcare. (Yes, I realize that under the current system, the wealthy has access to more and better care than the rest of us.)
Also, the government now has significantly more incentive to pass laws to inhibit vices that have health impact. If resources become so scarce they could do perverse things like, e.g. a total prohibition on sugar consumption.
Keep in mind that I'm supportive but trying to consider some potential bad outcomes.
OKImHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HMOs are single payer. Switch to Kaiser Permanente, for instance. You'll have what you've been asking for.
I don't even think it's necessarily just the poor. It seems to be pretty much everybody across the board. In the city where I used to live, they did a public opinion poll to see if people wanted a new water park. The results were overwhelmingly in favor of building the park.
But then reality set in, and the next poll question asked if people would support a 0.1% increase in sales tax to pay for said water park. You could practically hear the collective "HELL NO!" on that one.
Same in my hometown. Everyone in Michigan hates the roads. They're fucking horrible, possibly worst in the country. Then the state came forward and gave us great news, a 1% increase in sales tax would be more than enough to fund road and bridge repairs and replacements. Great right! Except nobody wants to shell out the extra buck or two it would cost them. So now they're all just complaining about the roads again, even after they had an opertunity to fix the issue.
Because it's true. How much do you pay from your income for insurance? I have very very inexpensive insurance right now and it's still about 10% of my pre-tax income. My last positions it was about 20%. And I have almost always had good coverage for low premiums.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mine is about 4%. before obama care my insurance cost the same and covered everything. now its shit, i pay out of pocket up to 4 grand a year. so basically, unless i need surgery or get hit by a truck, i have no insurance. and if i do, they only cover 80% up to some ungodly number i cant remember.
That's completely on your company and the insurance company, not Obamacare. I can't remember which one but even one of the big insurance companies told off another one publicly that they were essentially screwing people/bad business practices. It was an excuse.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea sure, Obama care had nothing to do with it, uh huh
all of our capitalist economic peers spend 2x-5x less than us for equal or higher quality healthcare. because they have universal care. its the only way to get price discipline
If you think that is literally the only reason, then you're part of the problem. Everyone who pushes for universal care seems to think it's this ridiculously simple situation where A+B=C, and there are no other confounding factors.
If it was that simple, we would have done it by now. But one side trying to make the other side look bad or sound stupid by boiling it down to 'IT'S SO SIMPLE, DUH' is not helping.
its the only way to get price discipline
And yet, plenty of other industries have accomplished this without being 100% controlled and operated by the government, so I'm not sure why you think it's the 'only' way.
Hey hey now. At least we have some freedom amirite
pochemy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because for a lot of wealthy people, insurance isn't 20% of their income or even 10%. They would be paying much more for health insurance to subsidize other people's and obviously, health insurance companies would go out of business. Both those groups will spend huge amount of money to elect people who won't implement free healthcare.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it makes you feel better, the rest of the world share your befuddlement.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:02:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just instituted the ACA (Obamacare) and my premiums increased and my coverage decreased over what it was. Tell me again how government controlled healthcare worked in the states.
Most of the issues with the ACA are thanks to compromises that the GOP demanded. Government controlled healthcare works in plenty of countries, we just happen to live in one where one of our two controlling parties is determined to make sure that the government doesn't work.
Doctors and nurses make about 3x what they do in the EU and UK, also. Insurance only pays what bills the doctors send them. It's a big cartel against the public.
afkas17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors also pay almost 400K more in education costs than they do in the UK. Nurses are quite that bad but it's still a hell of a lot more. Also doctors payments only make up 10% of the total cost of healthcare as it is, try again.
If the average salary for nurses was 20k a year in the US, guess what? The shortage of nurses we have now would look like nothing in comparison. Who the fuck would get a bachelors degree to make less money than you would working at wal-mart?
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:32:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obama. Bombed even more countries. Republicans had the house. Nothing got done.
And the GOP is quite proud of that. They've made it their job to obstruct Obama as much as possible for the last 8 years. They're the reason we only have 8 Supreme Court justices right now even though Obama nominated an extremely non-partisan judge nearly a year ago.
Ok, then explain how here in the UK we have (or at least, we had) nationalised healthcare that offers much more effective care and costs both the country and the taxpayer vastly less than in the USA?
These things are always worked out absolutely and per capita, friend. In the USA you pay vastly more overall per capita, and you pay more tax for it, per capita.
It's because people like you are fighting tooth and nail to get rid of it! Jesus Christ.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guarantee that if my coverage went up and my premiums went down I wouldn't "fight tooth and nail" to get rid of anything.
Sorry buddy but I deal with silly things called facts. Fact is, the ACA is, was, and always will be a collossal failure.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:21:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It saved my life so fuck you. It's not perfect but it's better than what I had before which was either piss poor coverage with a high deductible depending on employer or absolutely nothing. It's not perfect but it can be helped. And it's better than what was before.
OKImHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold the hostility kid. Oh my bad, I mean "FatJesusMoney666". I didn't realize that I should be happy that food was taken off of my families table, because it was being sent to yours.
Cool that it works for you. But it doesn't work for me, so it clearly, unequivocally not the answer.
Unless of course you're a generic liberal, where you only care if it helps other liberals. If it hurts republicans then fuck them right?
Everyone would be on one plan that the government organizes. To you, it would work the same as your insurance does now, we just all would have the same card. Which hopefully also means that you can see any doctor you want, because they only have one option on which insurance they take.
Which is why the ACA was doomed to fail. The whole point of any insurance is that the people paying into the premiums that don't need it will offset the cost of those that do. Which is why house insurance and car insurance don't really raise much every year. It's basically just adjusted for shop work costs raising.
But on a state level where there's a couple options, there's not enough healthy people paying into it to cover the costs of the sick (not to mention that a lot of healthy and employed people have private insurance through work, so double worse for the public options on how many healthy people are paying into it)
You're seeing a higher premium and lower coverage because your provider has to do that to stay in business. Hence why a government backed system would worked better, since they won't go out of business.. or really worry about profits (hopefully)
I'm happy for the ACA, but it was only a stepping stone to push the discussion. Meanwhile a lot of other 1st world countries have switched over and shown it can be done. We just need to get government officials in power to be willing to upend the free market for the good of nation.
(I imagine a lot of people were unhappy about social security when it was first introduced, but a lot of the elderly generation now can't live without it)
That's hardly government controlled healthcare. That's government mandated healthcare with some regulations or something on private corporations. People are still paying taxes+premiums instead of just increased taxes. The increase in taxes will likely be less than what most people pay for taxes.
Obamacare is a step in the right direction but so poorly executed that it's a step back. I especially like that I'm forced to sign up for Medicaid to avoid paying the fee. I can't afford insurance or the fee, so let me just leech off the government instead. Brilliant.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:36:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't afford insurance or the fee, so let me just leech off the government instead.
Actually, as long as you're not committing Medicaid fraud, it is cheaper to charge you taxes and enroll you in Medicaid because the government can bargain the costs down the larger the program.
The ones who are fucked are states that did not extend their Medicaid because now you have poor people who can't afford the fee, the plan and make too much money for Medicaid.
Oh, I know that. I mean it's hypocritical to invent a system where you scorn dependence on the government for healthcare then increase the chance that the lower classes will have to depend on the government for healthcare. And in some states, government healthcare sucks. Doesn't bother me on bit but seems kinda ridiculous.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you scorn dependence on the government for healthcare
Republican Plan: Privatize instead of Socialize.
increase the chance that the lower classes will have to depend on the government for healthcare.
Democrat Plan: Socialize instead of Privatize.
The Two Party System in Two Sentences.
The biggest thing is that this whole thing, the whole ACA thing is RomneyCare(a Republican plan in the first place) without the public option (IE, you can't buy into Medicaid), so they (Reps) fought hard to remove the option that the poor people now fall into by default and followed it up by not incrementing Medicaid spending in their state to accomodate. I like both sides but sabotage just to make Democrats look bad is pretty fucky when you're playing with other people's lifes.
I think that's a fair point. I personally find socializing better. Each have their pros/cons, though.
The Republicans have been sabotaging government on purpose, especially since that black african muslim guy took office, on all levels and it's fucking everything up for poor people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I personally find socializing better.
There's flip sides to each. Think education, if you socialize, every students get the same chance, but what happens if you have a child who isn't learning at the same rate or one that is exceeding the learning expectation; in a "privatized" model, you focus on those who do best/have more cash and train up a powerful workforce while leaving the ones who are less intelligent behind but you can always say "Our top students are smarter than the top students from a socialized educational system" while forgetting about the less intelligent children/less well-off children.
Think about private versus public schools and realize that's what happens when you have dough to send your kids to private schools. Those kids are less likely to do hard drugs, less likely to be involved in crime, less likely to be a teenage pregnancy statistic and more likely to excel in the workplace.
zaphas86 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, no we don't. I'm goddamn thrilled that I only pay about $20 every paycheck for shitty insurance that I never use, and I only have it for emergency's sake. I would ditch it if I didn't have to pay the goddamn Obamacare fine.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:17:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a very complex problem and my comment was very short - I agree that those are some of the problems. As I said in other comments, even direct taxation instead of insurance etc wouldn't solve the problem. The entire system needs rebuilding from the ground up on a nationalised basis. The ACA is not nationalisation by any stretch of the imagination.
They may not be death panels individually putting people to death but a lot of socialized health care countries do restrict treatment that they deem as not being worthwhile due to budget costs.
The worst part is most without insurance call 911 for headaches, cramps, feeling sick, etc. and hop on a ambulance free of charge - only costing the tax payers an additional $2,000 for their taxi.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:44:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason people that are against it can never grasp this concept. They just look at the word taxes and freak out. I argued with a guy for hours about how it would be cheaper for the government to provide free birth control pills to girls than pay for all the unwanted pregnancies and childhoods of said babies. All he would say is how he didn't wanna pay for people to have sex
We pay more on both sides. Our government spend more tax money per capita compared to every other country and each taxpayer pays more than every other country
Well, not entirely - my comment was broad. But about 65% of healthcare costs are tax-funded in the US, which is indeed more than any other country. It's just hidden taxes.
Yep, I had to waste a visit to the ER because I had recently moved and couldn't get an appointment with my new PCP until long after I ran out of my prescription medications. As I need them to function, I went to the ER after the urgent care I tried first a) wouldn't prescribe most of them and b) they actually wouldn't take my insurance and I didn't want to be out a hundred bucks for only half of the meds that they would prescribe. I was very apologetic.
In Canada the pharmacy would Fax a refill request to your doctor and then once they got an OK back from the dr they would fill them. They even have back up doctors who will prescribe meds to patients that they have never seen if the pharmacist says its a regular med. At the very least giving you enough to last until your scheduled appointment. Unless you are on fentanyl patches or similar. This is to cut down on unnecessary ER visits. However I once waited behind an old lady who wanted a sandwich.
kikellea ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:04:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's usually how my (USA) pharmacy does it, too, but there's several reasons they might not. Moving out of state, it being an awkward refill time, it being a high scheduled drug, and so on. Most of the time if you have a high rapport it's no big deal, they'll get you through, but sometimes it's no dice.
I've never had an issue doing that except for controls. The only time I've ever seen it happen was when a lady was trying to get her son's klonopin refilled from a doctor halfway across the country over the phone when we had never filled anything for him.
I had forgotten my multiple medications while visiting family across the province, and was able to get a week's worth from a local pharmacy. They called my pharmacy to check what my active medications were + dosage and filled it within half an hour.
Yeah, when I say I recently moved, I mean I moved from the UK to the US, so I couldn't get refills on my UK-issued prescriptions (I tried). One of the prescriptions is Tylenol 3 (cocodamol), so I couldn't get that from urgent care (it allows me to work full time with fibromyalgia).
We have to have our scripts faxed now by State law, but the backup doctor is a big no no. In my Specialist office, a doctor who has been with the practice for years, would write scripts when the Doctor/Owner of the practice was out of town for patients of the doctor/owner and now because they did that the Owner of the practice is up on federal charges. It can be a very screwed system. I am very lucky in that we have great insurance.
jpkotor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:24:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American pharmacies do this too. A lot of places even communicate with my clinic's EMR system and we get refill authorization requests in our inboxes that we can electronically sign off in our downtime for our patients. That, or the patient simply calls in and tells our admin staff that they need refills on certain meds and then the staff put the messages in our inbox. Plenty of people get their refills without an appointment.
In my experience in the ER, most people coming in for refills that they couldn't get because they "changed doctors", couldn't "see their PCP", and other doctors that don't know them "refuse to prescribe" are looking to get narcotic prescriptions refilled.
I really hate to tell you this (that's a lie) but you are what is wrong with the medical field at large. Most of the people that I've ever seen are coming through the ER because they need med refills for their mental health issues and the clinics are so backed up that they could not see their psychiatrist for a refill before they ran out. Most psychs will not refill psych meds without a visit.
You are what is wrong for furthering the sigma that everyone in pain or in need of a pain script refill at the ER is a drug seeker.
The last time I was in the ER I passed out right outside of triage beside a solo cup full of blood that I had just vomited up and I had to wait to be seen behind 6 hours' worth of people who just felt icky or something.
So don't go to the ER and take up a bed that somebody really, really needs if it isn't an emergency. Laying in the floor didn't help.
sg92i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thing is, the triage nurse stepped over me every few minutes for an hour until her shift ended and then a cop that apparently wasn't a cop (I remember a police officer) put me in a wheelchair. Everybody that went for care ahead of me was ambulatory, able to consume fluids and form coherent sentences. I was in the floor with blood coming out my mouth. I could go on about it, but yeah man. Don't go to the hospital if it can be fixed by the Urgent Care or especially by the general physician.
Does she pay her ER bills? If so, she's being an idiot to do it this way. You can negotiate uninsured care costs with a doctor's office for a lot less than an ER visit runs.
If she's not paying the ER bills, then she's milking the system and I am gonna judge that like crazy.
sg92i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can negotiate uninsured care costs with a doctor's office for a lot less than an ER visit runs.
This is true for GPs but its not true for specialists. IME if you call a specialist trying to negotiate a cash-price for a visit they just turn you away or throw out some obscene dollar amount to make you go away.
I have never been able to have a specialist see me while uninsured.
Also used to be the default on weekends before urgent care clinics. More than once my kids got sick and looked like waiting until the doctor's office was open on Monday wasn't going to work.
Yeah, when I was working at a group home I had to take one of our kids to the ER to get a rash looked at. Not an emergency just we needed a doctor to tell us what it was/if it was okay. The agency was getting him insurance but it hadn't come through yet apparently. (And I guess wherever he was before hadn't bothered??)
Jbrahhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's literally how I had a doctor at all as a kid.
Saque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they legally CAN turn her down if she isn't having an emergency. Most er's don't because $$$, but they can. They must triage you, and if it's not an emergency, meaning if you wait until morning to go to an urgent care or your pcp, there won't be any loss of life or limb.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the "solution" that my mom proposes for eliminating the ACA. It is so frustrating to have to continuously explain that having people who can't afford insurance overload the ER isn't a solution.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I live the 2 urgent cares close at 5 and one is closed on the weekend.
It's not always that people are lazy. Sorry we can't schedule our injuries or emergencies better.
Kinolee ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:28:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only for actual problems, though. The ER is required only to stabilize patients to the point where they can be safely discharged (or admitted), regardless of whether or not they have insurance or the ability to pay. Someone coming in solely for a pregnancy test will be turned away if they have no insurance, and even if they do have insurance they will be sitting in the waiting room for hours as they are at the bottom of the triage list.
There's an entire part of the ER devoted to stuff like this where I work. It's "express care" and it's not uncommon to do a blood draw on someone just for a hormone level. People with less serious issues also go through there instead of the actual mods. They don't get turned away if they don't have insurance.
The last ER I worked in, if it wasn't covered by EMTALA your ass was out the door. Also went to a zero narcs filled in the hospital or ED policy.
Anderj12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or if you just don't feel like waiting to see your doctor, or if your friend is there for something and you just want to get something "checked out" ...
I am an ER nurse and very few ER visits are actually emergencies.
My wife works in the ER... it's 99% people with the sniffles, people seeking opiates, and parents freaking out over bullshit.
Literal words that came out of a parent's mouth: "Well he was playing with a toy sword and swinging it around all, like, violent. He's never been a violent kid. Something is wrong with him".
Lady your kid is playing with a toy fucking sword. Go home.
athaliah ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:42:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to know what's parental bullshit and what's not. Like my son was in a car accident today and I just wanted his doctor to look at him and tell me he was fine and answer some questions I had (ie., will he get whiplash, should I give him pain meds), but she told me to take him to the ER instead, so I did. Half of me wanted confirmation he was okay, and the other half knew he was probably okay and that I was wasting the ER's time.
To be fair, with car accidents you can be perfectly fine for a few days and then suddenly you're in excruciating pain seemingly out of nowhere if you don't do anything to get checked out. I've got a couple friends working in the ER at a hospital near me and they always take car accidents seriously, because you have no idea what kind of internal damage is present but waiting before it shows itself. It was definitely the right decision.
athaliah ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You made feel so much better with this explanation, thanks.
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People have been internally decapitated in an MVA. Walk around fine until they shift their head the wrong way and drop dead.
Your situation is not a waste of the ER's time. Your child was in a legitimate accident, and needed to be checked for possible internal injuries, etc. That's not parental bullshit, that was you being a good mom. The aforementioned mother, however, was being ridiculous.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds to me like your head is right where it should be. Certain things like car accidents and near drownings (probably any potential head trauma) should always get checked out.
The ER I work in has an admission rate of 25%- so they're are some sick people who visit, but you're wife is correct, a lot of these people show up for who knows why.
I've been in recently for rabies shots, only place that had them available. And migraine cocktails. And an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured. And my kid dislocating her shoulder at 7pm. Happy to keep that 1% going strong, wish I got a loyalty discount. Sigh.
What's really lame is my wife, an ER nurse, literally will not use the ER for anything. If she cut her damn arm off she'd say "bah, I'll just duct tape it back on and go see my regular doctor on Monday".
There is a little bit of Justice when someone calls EMS for a bullshit complaint like that and the charge nurse just says "drop them in the waiting room, have them sign in"... Most expensive cab ride they'll ever take
AllieC12 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then having to call someone for a ride home at 3am after 6 hours in the waiting room and 30 minutes in the back.
heiferly ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are ERs in the US that are so busy, that people who are triaged at the highest acuity level still get dumped in the waiting room, because there are no more rooms and there's no more room in the hallway and they simply cannot accommodate even one more patient. As someone in the field of patient advocacy, I want to point this out because people need to know that the fact that you've been dumped by the ambulance in the waiting room instead of taken directly back for treatment in the ER, does not necessarily mean that your issue is not serious. Do not leave the ER just because there's a wait; if you feel you have an honest emergency (chest pain, shortness of breath, fainting, uncontrollable vomiting and/or diarrhea that has gone on for days, abnormal bleeding, head injury, possible internal injuries, high fever, symptoms of infection like heat/redness or foul smelling pus, etc.) stay and wait to be checked out.
There's different types of poor. There's those who we're talking about above, and then there are those that wont let you drag them into the rig even if their guts are hanging out of their stomach. "No I'm fine, I'll make an appointment with my doctor when i get home from work". "Sir you literally might die"
I'm the second one, only I was trying to treat shit myself rather than call a doctor since I was totallly uninsured and have the worst medical luck.
The one time I gave in was when I sliced a chunk off my finger while working a part time job. First I finished my shift because I didn't want to lose any money. Tried to fix it up myself when I got home and blacked out in the process.
Finally gave up and went to the ER, had to haggle with them when the bill came. That's one of those things only poor people know: you can haggle hospital bills in America.
On the flip side, when I bring a patient in who is in real pain and requires immediate attention but they send us to the waiting room because the beds are full it's more than a little frustrating.
To where? The non-existent other hospital? No one has ever been diverted from this hospital except during an MCI. The next closest hospitals are 30, 45, and 60 minutes away and ship everyone here. It's the only level one trauma center in the state and it's the only hospital in the most populated county in the state.
Doesn't get you admitted any faster around here... Unless you're talking about getting sent from a psych facility to the ED for medical screening.
If you show up to the ED in crisis, we (depending on the issue) take your belongings, put you on supervision, and IF there is a case worker we start making calls, if not then sometimes we give you a list of facilities and a phone and have you make the calls... Inpatient beds are EXTREEMLY limited some times, especially if you are under age
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm basically drooling thinking about having access to that for my patients it feels like we barely have that in all of Pennsylvania with how hard it is to place patents most of the time, and how far we end up shipping them
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:17:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER nurse here. This is one of the most frustrating things I have to explain to my patients when I discharge them. "Yes, I DO believe that you have chest pain ... however, it's not a heart attack, pneumonia, pulmonary embolism, or a pneumothorax, so go see your primary care doctor tomorrow."
People act pissed when I give them this news. YOU'RE NOT HAVING A HEART ATTACK, ACT HAPPY.
People will go there in the US for little things. A lot of people without insurance or with state insurance will go to the ER because its hard to find a doctor that will take your state insurance.
Too true. I was on state insurance as a kid cause we were poor. There were two dentists and one pediatrician that took it. I was going to a pediatrician until I was out of high school because no other places that would take it had any openings.
I work in a doctor's office. At least with my state, doctors have to operate at a loss most of the time when they accept new patients with state insurance. It's sad to see people being turned away, but at the same time, I know these doctors can't see people for free.
DPleskin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
canadian here. people go to ER for the flu and shit.
ch1llboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Second that. I've lived in 2 remote communities and 1 small city with ZERO doctors taking patients. In conditions like that you are asked "If you are here to see a doctor"
Yeah, if you walk into A&E here in the UK and just tell them you're pregnant, I'm pretty sure they'd tell you to fuck off and buy a pregnancy test from a store.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ER isn't a magical place where you expedite whatever medical treatment you want.
Ha I waited 8 hours in the ER with a burst appendix (or at least it burst sometime while I was there), almost died. This was in Toronto.
It sure seems that way, imagine how bad it is when you live in a country with free healthcare. I want to slap the shit out of most people.
Looking through the lists now we have a few generally unwell, D&V (stop coming to hospital and spreading your shit), a baby with a temp of 38. These are the same people who will sit complaining of waiting times.
nubsuo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in Canada it is. I waited 4 hours with a smashed up foot, but I had to take a number because 40 other people had a cough or their finger hurt.
QuinZ33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ER is for ruling out or treating life-threatening conditions.
I think this is far too limiting.
For example, when I had a sharp pain in my testicle, I was told to go to the emergency room to rule out testicular torsion.
Losing a testicle isn't a life or death situation, but it's something that needs urgent treatment.
Waiting around for a urologist appointment just isn't feasible.
That's the whole reason hospitals generally have urgent care facilities attached.
It's for acute care as well. There's a big difference between potentially losing an organ and deciding that after 2 months I coughing, today's the day to see a doctor.
rosatter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I went in when my IUD decided to half expel itself. It wasn't life threatening but it was extremely painful and bloody and I sure as hell wasn't waiting 2 days to get into my gynecologists office.
One of the surgeons I worked with made the complaint "We have people with the flu coming into the E.R. and people with broken bones going to Immediate Care clinics, one of the reasons we have expensive health care"
He is very right.
A_Drusas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's true. Went to the ER for chest pain, was told I wasn't having a heart attack. No help at all in determining actual source of chest pain.
Ariboo02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in college, I was still on my parents insurance so it was either go to the ER for $100 or take a bus home for the week. That was some expensive strep throat ๐ญ
I like your optimism but I'm going to have to prescribe your a daily dose of reality so things don't get out of hand. Side effects may include a healthy distrust of humanity or temporary insanity.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And woe to those who are in for legit medical emergencies and have trouble getting the attention need. Sheesh. I'm just on the patient side of things and gd do I hate hospitals though I've spent far more than my fair share in them. If it pissss me off when those types of people come in I can't imagine what it feels like for the staff.
Also sucks because I have a rare disease and can be reasonably functional even in some varieties of serious emergencies and while I don't blame anyone for making me wait and it's probably beyond their control to some extent. Suuucks. Or I can get back fast at the good hospital with a lot of knowledge about my disease but still waiting to see a doctor because some bozo two rooms down is drunk and screaming is not fun. Or I have a central IV line which means I can't fuck around with fevers because it could very well be sepsis. I still do my damnedest not to go in, or I used to until until ending up rapidly going into septic shock because I wanted to wait until morning. So it sucks how many times I've not been taken as seriously as I should've been because every Tom, Dick, or Harry with a slight fever shows up to the ER every day.
*Used to be. It seems that many of the hospitals near me are setting up their ERs as competition to walk-in clinics, even opening stand alone ERs in strip malls. And it sucks when you have a real emergency. A few years ago I went to the walk-in clinic with an excruciating headache that had lasted for a week, along with some other symptoms. The doctor there, after examining me, said I needed to go straight to the ER with orders for a CT scan. She said that I really should go in an ambulance, but since I had someone else drive me, it had already been going for a week, and we were less than five minutes from the hospital, that we could forgo that expense if we went straight there. Walked into the ER, gave the attendant my write up from the doctor, then waited close to an hour to be seen. Only person ahead of me in the waiting room was a guy whose kid had the freaking flu. Turns out I had a brain tumor the size of a plum and had surgery a few days later to remove it. The flu is not an emergency, and this during normal business hours where the ER is not your only option.
heck a walk in clinic can do that. or just take more home pregnancy tests. You are waaaaayyyy more likely to get a false negative on them than a false positive.
Whizzzel ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:21:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was so excited that if she couldn't get an appointment with her gyno the next day she said she was just going to go to the ER.
I'm an EM resident that sees this every couple weeks. Basically the answer is "I want an ultrasound." Or double prove they are pregnant with the same urine pregnancy test they used at home.
Whizzzel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so silly. There's really nothing to see until you're a couple months in at least.
It saddens me that someone who is that stupid is procreating.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:35:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:38:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kinda agree- I mean, if you've been dating for years and just can't get legally married for money reasons, etc. it's fine with me. But don't have a baby with some dude you barely know thinking he's your ~true love.~ It's not gonna work.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:42:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, weddings tend to be one big lump sum of money, whereas babies are expensive, but in more of a steady drip spread out over years. Which is a easier thing to manage for most people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
absolutely not. but unless you are going down the line of you, partner and two witnesses, costs climb really fast (I had a really shoe string wedding, and it still ended up costing ยฃ5000). You can also make having a baby really cheap with second hand clothes, washable nappies and such. it just comes down to personal choice. if you want a wedding that's going to have 12 bridesmaids and a designer wedding dress at a castle, then having a baby is much cheaper.
Not everyone would make the decision of abortion for themselves even if they support other's decisions. Or the don't know they are pregnant until past the cut off line.
Plenty of couples are stable without being married. Plenty of married couples are not remotely stable. Plenty of single people are stable enough by themselves.
Very true! Typical linking of marriage and wedding. God my family would kill me if I eloped.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know! My family is quite religious, I am not and neither is my boyfriend but holy hell I mentioned once that I wanted either a small "red neck" backyard wedding and SHIT HIT THE FAN. I'm like OKAAAAY mom and dad, then you pay. They said they would.
I didn't say couldn't afford it. I said would rather spend. Personally, there are many things I would love to spend $50 and would totally be worth the time and purchase. To some that may be a marriage license. To others perhaps not.
Anyone who has a baby "just for the heck of it" is already making a poor choice. Ideally, a child should be a welcomed and loved addition to a family. Which isn't always the case since there is rape, incest, accidents, people who don't know they're pregnant, etc. However, having a child, but not being married doesn't mean someone is having a child "just for the heck of it."
Not everyone believes a piece of paper is a magical thing that crates a stable home. Plenty of married people have rocky (or just straight up bad) relationships. Walking down an isle and saying some stuff doesn't f ix that.
I know people who went about things the 'baby first' way, and quick - who ended up in wonderful relationships by working hard to be together and make a good home. But the logistics of getting married first were less important to them.
Unless you're IN the relationship it's not your decision.
But I've met plenty of people (married, or long term relationships) where the phrase "We're trying for a baby" has made me wince.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:39:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of reasons - personal beliefs (not wanting the government in your relationship, disliking the historical context of 'property' of women, etc.), cost, distance, situations in life, etc.
Why does the status of other people's relationships bother you so much? That's the real question.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:07:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't. I was asking a question out of curiosity. I wouldn't have a baby with someone unwilling to marry me or with someone I wasn't so sure about. In that case, I'd rather stay single.
Indeed. I've been with my So for 10 years. In our case it's a fair few number of reasons, but it boils down to the fact that we both know and trust we're committed.
We will get married at some point, and I personally want to do that before we have kids, but it's just not that big a deal to us. I know a fair number of people who just aren't interested in the official marriage thing at all. Wide varieties of reasons, but it doesn't make their relationship any 'less' meaningful or real.
Percinho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone cares about marriage or sees it as this huge and important thing that has great significance to your relationship. If your Mum has been married three times then the whole concept of it being an everlasting commitment to the other person kind of gets blown apart.
To many people it isn't about money, it's about not needing external validation of their relationship, which is how they see marriage.
Now I'm like you, I knew I wanted to get married before we bought a house together and had kids, but that doesn't make it the 'right thing to do', it just makes it what I wanted to do. Marriage only has significance in the people involved believe it does, and plenty of people have perfectly valid reasons for thinking it's irrelevant.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never said everyone has to get married. I only asked why wouldn't someone who was committed to another person marry them? If you can't commit, you obviously shouldn't get married.
Percinho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because not everybody believes in the significance of marriage. To some people it is a complete irrelevance that has no significance to themselves, their relationship, or their level of commitment. To them the question is why would they get married. Marriage is only important if you believe in its significance, and lots of people don't for a variety of perfectly valid reasons.
Maybe to you, but if you want any say in you SOs life, the you do it. The fact that gay people fought tooth and nail for it for years to have it and get everyone here says it's useless shows a lot. It's like antivaxxers in a world that's safe from disease because of vaccines.
It goes both ways, your SO shouldn't push you to marriage to stay in her/his life. If you are not compatible then move along.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, agreed!
legumey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A faint positive might indicate an ectopic pregnancy. Obviously your coworker was most likely acting like a twit, but faint positive+severe pain could mean life threatening condition.
You can literally walk into planned parenthood and do a pregnancy test, for free. They give you a cup, you piss in it and put it in a little dumbwaiter in the bathroom and press the button. You go chill in the waiting room for ~1 hour, get your results. Then, depending on what you get, you go home or schedule your prenatal visits/abortion. So, so easy, and they can test you for a couple STDs they can see in pee too if you want.
Not trying to justify their behaviour, its a shitty thing to do, but I have a feeling she may be in a better financial situation than most. Often people stop being bothered by overpaying for services when referring to something important to them if they have more money than they need.
She's in her early twenties, known her boyfriend for less than six months, and they are trying to get pregnant.
An idiot.
raivahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBH our urine hcg tests are essentially identical to over the counter ones. Her serum hcg would be so low at that point that even drawing the blood is pointless. Ugh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry these people always make the most dedicated parents...to the puppy they get after they are sick of their kids...and the kitty they get after they are sick of the dog that used to be a puppy who the kid who used to be a baby won't take for a walk.
Galevav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Women in the area used to spread โthis one little trick that doctors hate!โ, And yeah, we all hate it. Instead of going to their prenatal appointments, expectant mothers would go to the ER and tell us they had abdominal pain just to get a โpicture of the babyโ (the sonogram). We suspected that was the case, but didn't say anything until a mother was open about why she was really there.
New policy: we don't give out baby sonograms in the ER. Go to your OB.
Aiurar ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:10:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, Diabetic Ketoacidosis can kill people in a matter of hours, and often causes excruciating abdominal pain as your organs eat themselves thinking they are starving.
Euhn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:40:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, almost died from that. Usually what kills you is that your blood becomes too acidic, and overwhelms your body's natural ability to compensate for that. Bad things start happening, like having real low levels of potassium in your blood. Your muscles NEED potassium to work right... including your heart.
True and you always correct for potassium first before supplying insulin. Many med students don't realize this and suggest to give insulin right away, not realizing you must correct potassium levels first.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I thought you had low total body K, but actually had hyperkalaemia because K wasn't able to get into the cells, so you have low intracellular K. Then when you give insulin the K moves back into the cells, and then you end up with hypokalaemia if you don't correct for K.
I think I need to revise that again (med student btw, preclinical years).
OK sorry so this applies for sure if you have hypokalemia, copied form uptodate:
Low-dose intravenous (IV) insulin should be administered to all patients with moderate to severe DKA who have a serum potassium โฅ3.3 mEq/L. If the serum potassium is less than 3.3 mEq/L, insulin therapy should be delayed until potassium replacement has begun and the serum potassium concentration has increased. The delay is necessary because insulin will worsen the hypokalemia by driving potassium into the cells, and this could trigger cardiac arrhythmias.
So if hyper or your potassium is normal then sure its fluids + insulin, but if your hypokalemic you must correct that first.
Another way to think of it: Ketones are released as the body burns fat for energy source. If there are no carbs or sugars in the blood for a person to consume, your body turns to it's fat supply next and that results in high amounts of acidic ketones entering your bloodstream. The issue is not that your organs actually eat themselves, its the fact that your pH levels goes way way down, becoming quite acidic, causing damage to all your organs as that acidic blood is moved throughout the body.
Death rates from diabetic ketoacidos are <2% in first world nations. It's easily managed assuming you go to a doctor, albeit not particularly pleasant. If untreated, it will kill you, but it's very rare to die from it when treated. We've saved people with blood pH of 6.9, which is quite frankly ridiculous.
Aiurar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Note that I said "can". I've treated my share of DKA, I know what's up.
Yeah, it's not nice. It's amazing the number of diabetics we get who just don't comply with medication, diet, etc. AT ALL. Diabetes is a serious condition, you can't just ignore it.
This fucking rages me. My uncle has diabetes and still drinks like 2L of coke per day. Then wonders why his opticians say he's going blijd and his feet are purple. Who the fuck cares if you don't like diet coke?
Sun_drop ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:23:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not exactly in shape but I cannot imagine drinking a 2-liter bottle of pop per day. I get queasy just thinking about it.
I lived with someone who did this. She "didn't like water." So she guzzled soft drink (pop, soda, whatever) all day instead. And wondered why she couldn't lose weight.
Some people really don't like water, it's too plain for them. Eventually she weaned off the soft drink and started drinking water, and is doing much better health wise. Not sure what made her stop, she definitely never listened to me. Maybe a scary doctors visit...
mirshe ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:47:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really like water, but I got around that with those drink mix packets (the sugar free Crystal Light stuff usually).
I don't like water either unless it's from my Britta filter and I'm really thirsty. The stuff goes through me in seconds anyway, so it seems pointless.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:15:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be so hard on yourself. You did correctly use a two syllable word.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, don't get me wrong I wasn't referring to your grammar. My comment was in regards to your seemingly gross misunderstanding of the health benefits of drinking water as opposed to other beverages.
Oh, I know. You just thought I was stupid, so you decided it was your job to insult me for it. Truth is I don't drink a lot of fluids of any kind because I don't seem to need it, given my Middle Eastern genetics. But don't let me stop you from drinking one community's tap water bottled and disguised as glacial water, shipped and sold for more than what you pay for gasoline.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, nowhere in my comment did I insinuate that I purchased bottled water but you can feel free to assume that. Also, while I have no idea what your individual water consumption requirements are, people, regardless of heritage do need to consume a minimum amount of water daily and the best way to achieve that is just straight water, not soda, milk, juice, or etc.
It doesn't have to do with your middle eastern genetics, people really don't need as much water as what I like to call "big beverage" makes it out to be. Humans get pretty much all the water we need from food.
More like "big toilet paper", because there's long been this idea in America that people should drink 8 glasses of water a day. Or as Homer Simpson recalls it, 8 glasses of gravy.
I loooooove me some Diet Coke and can't down that much. I mean, I could probably do it if I worked at it, but I'd be a belching machine and my co-workers would complain.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry for my ignorance. Diabetes means your body doesn't produce enough insulin to deal with all the excess glucose in your blood. Doesn't this mean that you'd just need to inject more of it in order to be able to drink a lot of soda?
Not really. Type 1 is an autoimmune disorder where the body does not produce any insulin and there are specific antibodies that are present. Type 2 is more often than not brought on by lifestyle choices and is usually preventable and gives lots and lots of warning that it's coming on.
As a management tactic, though, it's more than just injecting more insulin to counteract the sugars. Your body does not want sugar in the blood stream. In a normally functioning body, when you eat something that is high in sugar, your body produces the insulin to immediately move that sugar to your cells for storage and/or use as energy. In a diabetic who doesn't produce enough insulin or who doesn't produce any insulin, that sugar can linger in the blood stream until you get around to checking your sugars and dosing up and it's dependent on you dosing correctly. Sugar lingering in the blood stream over time can cause damage to capillaries which leads to diabetic neuropathy and diabetic retinopathy and if left untreated, can lead to sores that don't heal and gangrene and loss of limb or eyesight.
Sugar, processed carbohydrates, etc., all produce a high blood glucose response. so there are extreme highs and then lows as insulin is given to counteract the high. As a matter of control, a diabetic needs to maintain level blood sugars as much as possible. For a type 2 diabetic, that means no added sugar like soda pop, restricting processed carbohydrates like pasta, bread, crackers, etc.
Various groups are working on them. Sometimes some advances get posted to r/diabetes. This seems to give a fairly good comprehensive current overview.
It bugs me though, that they're called artificial pancreases. They generally only inject insulin, or insulin plus glucagon or some other glycemia raising solution, which approximates the functions of the pancreatic alpha and beta cells. The pancreas produces several other hormones and pancreatic enzymes which these so-called artificial pancreases do not.
That all sounds very positive to me, thanks. Really glad to see increasing progress. Seems like all it needs to do initially is be as good as a perfectly self-injecting patient, and the sophistication of the additional hormones and enzymes will quickly follow. Also had no idea that DIY solutions were happening. Very cool.
Its actually best for T2 diabetics to avoid all carbohydrates that effect blood sugar. The body does not know the difference between "process carbs" and 'natural' carbs they all raise blood sugar levels, except for fiber and some sugar alcohols.
A diet for prediabetic and T2 diabetic should be lowest in net carbs (total carbs - fiber). These diets can even reverse pre & T2 diabetes
It's not really feasible to keep up with massive sugar spikes as a T1 diabetic. Only the pancreas is tuned enough to handle that sort of thing. With a pump/injections, you'll bounce between way too high and way too low.
I speak as a Type I diabetic here, and you are probably thinking of Type IIs. But the experience and the fall out is very similar for both diseases even if the treatment sometimes differs. Diabetes is not a disease where your doctor says, "Here is your treatment plan. Follow this and everything will be fine!" You are not just expected to watch what you eat. You have to calculate the nutritional values of every single thing entering your body. And guess what! Your body doesn't necessarily react the same way as everyone else's. It's a guessing game where you use trial and error to learn what you can handle and what you can't. And then, maybe you had a stressful day at work and your bloodsugar won't come down. Maybe your menstrual cycle is messing with your hormones and your bloodsugar doesn't react in the usual way. Maybe you have no idea why it's not responding as expected. I have had days where I go low for hours at a time, despite eating everything in sight to bring it up. I had a stressful living situation in college that was affecting me so much that I developed insulin resistance. And doctors aren't necessarily helpful or willing to work with you. Sometimes they respond not unlike you are responding now. "Well this is the hand you've been dealt and you just have to deal with it."
Sometimes I'm shocked at how little some diabetics seem to care about informing themselves about their own disease. But for the majority of us, we are trying. We are struggling with depression and chronic disease fatigue and an extremely demanding disease from which there is no relief. Don't sit there on your high horse and judge us for slipping up. In a way, I'm happy that I have Type I and not Type II. As a Type I, I have no insulin function left to preserve. My body destroyed it all as part of an autoimmune reaction. If I'm having a craving and want to indulge in something (like a donut), I can adjust my insulin dose and eat the damn donut. Type IIs don't have that option, because they are trying to prevent the further deterioration of their metabolism. It's exhausting in either case, but I have a lot of sympathy for my Type II friends.
As a fellow T1, thank you for this post. I hate when people post judgy comments about diabetics without knowing the full details or really anything about diabetes.
Thank you for your insight. I know more about type II than type I, but from my discussions with doctors, they seem to do a paint by numbers type of thing, prescribe metformin, aspirin, a statin, etc. and try and ignore symptoms that may say there is more going on then a textbook case.
And, as you say, if type IIs get too high, they can't just take insulin if they are not insulin dependant. Their options are exercise (which raises it as well initially, but uses a lot up), reduce stress if they can, and not eat until it lowers.
Either or, type 1 or 2 diabetes is quite serious, many Aboriginal people in Canada suffer from type 2 and I deal with it at work all the time - very poor med compliance + bad dieting etc
I'm not saying it's not serious. We are bombarded from the moment we are diagnosed with all of the terrible consequences we face. And frankly, Type II in particular has a much higher occurrence in minority populations such as blacks and hispanics. I am not familiar with statistics of the Aboriginal population of Canada, but my larger point is that a lot of medical professionals treat diabetes as a paint by numbers situation. I have been a Type I for 23 years and I can tell you that sometimes it feels more like throwing darts blindfolded.
JE3146 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is a lifelong Type I diabetic and struggles with this. She says menopause is a bitch to deal with.
It's my stepbrother (also Type I) that I worry about. He does not take care of himself at all and I don't want him to end up with amputated limbs like other people mentioned in this thread :/
How old is your stepbrother? I feel like almost every single one of us has at least one phase where we go through this. I had mine in high school where I just didn't do everything I was supposed to and because I was on multiple daily injections, I didn't have consequences for a long time. Then I ended up in the hospital for 5 days with my first bout of DKA - not fun. Sadly, it was not the wake up call it should have been and I continued the behavior (somewhat modified) for a couple more years until I finally got my act together. As I mentioned, diabetes (either type) is exhausting to deal with. You can try to send him over to r/diabetes which has been the support community I really needed - I hated the local support groups. But honestly, if he's just not ready to help himself, there isn't much that anyone can do to force him. I hope he figures it out!
If they are ignoring it, then evidently you can ignore it. I expect at some point an unhealthy lifestyle just becomes a habit you're unwilling to break. You'll die after having parts chopped off over the years, but at least you got to enjoy a glass of soda with every dinner, or something like that.
The real horror isn't that people are willing to kill themselves in stupidity. If they want to do that, let them. It's the enormous strain they put on the taxpayer. All the treatments and therapy they get is very expensive, and they evidently don't care. Just give them an ultimatum, either follow the instructions the medical professionals are giving you, or don't get any more treatment.
I'm not trying to demean your comment, plenty of people fall into the description you've given. But there are also plenty of people who are just burnt out. Being diabetic is tiring. You feel like you do everything right but your numbers are still bad. One day you're great, the next day you do the same thing but some small change happens and you're having a shit day. Doing that for years gets old and some people just give up. I haven't given up yet. But I see why people do.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a type one, nothing bums me out more than going to bed with a sugar of 150, waking up with one at 300, taking insulin and drinking water, checking again and finding out it's still 300 with no explanation.
It's a disease where you can do everything right and you will still have bad blood sugar days. The good news is, you're generally not gonna die from one day of bad blood sugars unless you're like 600 all day.
Really, whether type I or type II, when diagnosed, diabetics should be at least offered counseling and support and that should be available throughout treatment. Just telling them that the test results came back, you're diabetic, here are your prescriptions, please lose weight (if obese), eat less carbs, cook with coconut oil, exercise more, and come back in 3 months isn't enough for most.
The diabetics go home, research some on the internet, repeatedly see that there is no real effective cure, that the disease is progressive, etc.. I really think many go through the whole several stages of denial thing - denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. I think that initial week or two would be a great time to guide/counsel the person into the lifestyle changes needed while dealing with the issues mentally.
And it is hard for them when the live with others who are healthy and refuse to accommodate to the lifestyle the diabetic needs. I am not saying nondiabetics should have to change in any way, but it is a tempting thing for a diabetic, who likely should not be overeating, should not be eating unhealthy, should be exercising, etc. when they continue to be surrounded by people who do causing the diabetic difficulty complying, especially when depressed.
And some diabetics don't get all the tools to treat themselves as best as they could. For example, some type IIs may be prescribed only 1 test strip per day. Type IIs, especially new ones, need a bunch per day to learn what to do. E.g. they can fast, take a reading, eat some food, and test again in 1 hour to determine how their body reacts. Some may be ok eating a few peanuts a day but for others a few may send glucose skyrocketing. Some may want to keep their numbers as low as they can and without insulin they may want to eat less if their glucose is higher just before than they like. They have to be able to test to know how they are doing.
I've noticed that type 1s (which I am) adhere so much more strictly to regimens/medicine than type 2s - any insight as to why?
MrLeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A type 2 diabetic can get away with bad control and suffer comparatively more minor immediate consequences than a type 1, as a type 1 can either run very very high if they don't take insulin, or go dangerously low if they don't balance insulin with carbs. Type 2 needs good control of course, but I feel type 1 has more dangerous immediate consequences given that you have little to no insulin in your body as opposed to insulin resistance.
Also, many type 1s get diagnosed as children and develop good habits managing it early in life.
Welfare requires proof of pregnancy to get benefits. They do not want a photo of your pee stick, they want something from a doctor. If you don't have a regular doctor, and you go to the ER when something's wrong with you, you're gonna end up asking them for proof of pregnancy.
opeesan ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:00:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not expensive when you don't have any intention of paying for it.
I never got this. I know the "do it at home" pregnancy tests aren't always accurate, but when my wife was pregnant both times, we just went to the local health clinic to get a 100% sure test, and it was only like $10 or something.
lowdiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They use the same test at the health clinic as you did at home... it's the same pee stick test.
Well yea, but when doing it at the health clinic (at least around here) it is usually done alongside a blood test and pelvic exam for more accurate results.
Even with the medicaid expansion I've been denied 5 times. Once they approved it and then took it away again. My husband and kids are covered but not me. It doesn't make any sense to anybody but no one can tell me how to fix it. Obamacare will let me pay more than I can afford for a shit plan (covers 60%, which helps me not at all) and says I'm not eligible for financial assistance because I should have medicaid. It is beyond frustrating.
I've had to do this, and it SUCKS! We are military on TRICARE and at the time they didn't cover urgent care. So, kid has a rash and can't go to daycare without a note from the doctor. You know there isn't anything wrong, just from the cold. No same day appts, like EVER, on base with their ped, only option, if you want them to go to daycare so you can go to work and not get crap for not being there ( and who knows when the rash will clear up b/c it isn't really a rash but just from a virus), is going to the on-base ER so they can give you a not. I HATED it EVERY time, but really there was no other option....Thankfully, they have started to cover urgent care if you can't get a same day appt.
In states with Medicaid expansion there's no excuse but it still happens.
Tjodleik ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The worst that can happen is that you'll die.
But first, kidney failure, diabetic neuropathy, retinapathy and twice the risk of dying from cardiovascular diseases, with coronary artery disease being the biggest killer. Not to mention that ketoacidosis is seriously uncomfortable and should be reason enough to take one's medication.
Wait lose your toes? How does this work if you don't mind explaining?
ima_mo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diabetics are at higher risk for peripheral vascular disease (in this case, narrowing of the blood vessels, especially in legs and feet), which leads to poor circulation. Prolonged, excess blood sugar also leads to nerve damage, impairing a diabetic's ability to feel pain (also especially in the hands and feet).
Poor circulation in the toes means that less nutrients go to the toe, which may lead to damaged tissue from nutrient/oxygen deprivation. Also, any outside damage to the toe (eg if the person stubs his/her toe) won't be felt as strongly as it should, and won't heal as quickly as it should anyway. Damaged tissue eventually dies and then needs to be cut off.
Jedecon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:57:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diabetes is a son of a bitch. One of the most common symptoms is peripheral neuropathy, which is basically nerve damage in the extremities. Diabetic people commonly lose feeling in their toes and feet.
Diabetes also leads to poor circulation, so when you have an injury it can take a long time to heal.
So, let's say you have diabetes and you buy a new pair of comfortable shoes. Problem is, you can't feel your toes very well, so you can't feel it when your big toes rubs the end of the shoe. It starts as a blister. You can't feel the blister though, and your eyes aren't as good as they used to be, so you don't notice it. It keeps rubbing. You keep not feeling it. A couple days later, you take your sock off and notice a red spot. Fuck. You go to the doctor. He tells you it isn't bad, but reminds you how easily these things can get out of hand, and asks you to come back so he can check on it. The doctor cleans it, bandages it, and sends you on your way. The sore just doesn't heal. After a couple weeks it gets infected. Your doctor does what he can, but without good blood flow the soar is growing. Every time the doctor thinks he has gotten the infection beaten, it comes back. Eventually, the doctor comes to you with some bad news. The infection is spreading. You can either cut the toe off and have a smaller clean cut to worry about, or you can risk the infection spreading further and losing the entire foot. You schedule the surgery, and throw your big toe a small sad going away party.
Can you at least keep it in a jar to show your grandchildren? Kidding, but damn that's horrid. I don't wanna lose my toe.. Thanks for the explanation! Also probably stupid question can you run without your big toe?
You could donate it to the Sourdough Saloon in Dawson City. The sour toe cocktail is pretty popular there.
Jedecon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can run without a big toe, but it wouldn't be ideal. Your big toe takes the most strain when you walk and run, so without it your other toes will be unhappy. Your gait and balance will also be screwed up.
You can replace a lot of the function by placing a curved rigid plate in the bottom of your shoe.
ngwoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why's it usually toes and not fingers? Is it just that people see cuts/sores on their fingers earlier and deal with them before they get infected?
My dad isn't diabetic, but his doctor said (from what I heard) that by all means he should, the 'numbers' don't add up as to why he is not. I'm really afraid for his health, considering he also has gout. How can I persuade him effectively to listen to his doctor and not go to a seafood restaurant after being told to not eat foods that are high in protein?
tell him he gets diabetes his boner won't work. people glaze over at blindness and missing toes, but they perk up when they find out that diabetes is boner poison
You see those diabetic feet when they come off and they are some shit. Good luck, remember that as The Architect says, "denial is the most predictable of human responses" and you gotta let people make their own choices.
Tell him that some people, like me, have watched their dad go blind and suffer with this disease for their whole life. Tell him that even though people like to joke about "the 'beetus'" it's a horrendous thing to live with and affects my father every single day. Tell him to grow the hell up. Some people didn't get a warning before being diagnosed with diabetes. If you get a heads up, you better freaking listen to it.
I have a friend who buys her pregnancy tests at dollar stores. They haven't failed her; they've been accurate for her three pregnancies since I've known her.
I hear the ones from the dollar stores are generally just as accurate as the name-brand ones from the pharmacy... I'm thinking of getting mine there, now (I like to have a couple around just in case... never know when you or a friend might want to check), as the fancy ones can get pricey! You can always double-check with a more reputable brand, and you'd only be down a buck...
I'm studying to be a pharmacist right now and work as a student pharmacist at Walgreens. It's aggravating dealing with some people and their meds. "Well I feel fine so why should I pick up my metoprolol?" Half the time it's not even a money issue since they're on medicare and their copays are so low. They just don't want to take their meds and then wonder why they have emergencies and need ambulances.
Ketoacidosis is a condition that occurs when you have an excess of sugar/glucose in your bloodstream and not enough insulin. Insulin is a hormone that allows glucose to enter your cells to be used as fuel, so if you don't have enough insulin your body breaks down fat to be used as fuel instead. This causes your liver to produce acids called ketones into the bloodstream that changes the body's ph and really messes with your system. I'm a type 1 and luckily have never been in DKA, but a friend of mine has been hospitalized for it several times, and it's not pleasant. It causes vomiting, dehydration, and makes it hard to breathe among other things, and left untreated can lead to a coma and eventually death.
A Keto diet basically is a low carb diet that encourages your body to use fat as energy and to produce ketones. A non-diabetic person's body can burn ketones and it is not typically dangerous if you're careful, but can cause some imbalances if there is an excess (I don't know much about keto diets, this is just what a quick google search told me). Ketones in a non-diabetic person are basically caused by the body's response to starvation or to what it thinks is starvation (lack of carbs). I can't imagine it would be good for the long term, but that's just my opinion!
Funny thing I actually found out I was pregnant at urgent care. I went in to get my finger xrayed and standard procedure they ask if you could be. I said maybe but probably not since we were doing fertility treatments. Peed in a cup and what do you know. Pregnant. The doctor was so excited to tell me since it was the first time she got to tell someone and they were happy about it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why so many people with diabetes choose to ignore or simply don't understand the severity of their condition. I had an old co-worker get sent to the ER with diabetic ketoacidosis because he was up drinking all night, was so drunk he didn't take his insulin (not to mention whatever spikes happen while consuming mass amounts of booze).
I stopped by the party and I kept asking him if he was OK, looked super pale and somewhat incoherent, his GF pushed it off as "he's just drunk." I told her he needs to go to the hospital.
2 hours later he's in the ER. I wanted to say "I told you so" so badly but decided to hold off since he was in bad shape and that would be a dick move.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, don't come to the ER for a pregnancy test, cause the test results won't be the only surprise you'll be getting.
Years ago one of the cleaners at work came to my office and was furious, banging her broom into everything. I asked her what was wrong and she told me that they were forcing her to have health insurance and were deducting it from her pay. She said it was costing her a lot of money. I explained that the cost of not having insurance was much higher. She explained that she'd just go to the emergency room like she's always done. After a few more questions it was apparent she would go to the emergency room for treatment and just never pay the bills.
I'm in my 40's and it never occurred to me that you could go to the ER for a pregnancy test.
IdSuge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last year, during my M1 year I was shadowing an Endocrinologist and saw a patient with uncontrolled Type II DM. She had bad neuropathy, nephropathy, retinopathy, and moderate heart failure. All of these things happened because she has repeatedly and vehemently refused to take insulin. Her reasoning was that she knew someone in the past with diabetes who died that was on insulin and didn't want to take it. When the doc urged her for probably going on his 100th time to please take insulin or she was going to die, her response was, "When the good lord wants to take me, he can just take me then. I'm not doing it."
I just cannot understand this type of logic. It makes no sense to me. Like why even go to the doctor if you are not going to listen to what they have to say and would rather just die? It was so sad to watch this happen to someone, knowing the treatment is so simple. My job is to help people, but when that person doesn't want help, what else are you supposed to do?
Type 1 Diabetic here, so much cringe. Really you need the medication (obvious) in ADDITION to a more healthy lifestyle overall. You don't pick one, you need both. Take your insulin, see your Endocrinologist every few months, take care of yourself or you WILL have complications. If you think it won't, IT WILL. The best (and only) way to treat it in some cases is to prevent it. Also, check out /r/Diabetes
If you don't have insurance, pregnancy qualifies you for medicaid in the US. But to apply you need a paper from a medical professional confirming the pregnancy, you can't just pee on a stick at home and bring it in. Medicaid is effective back to the date on that paper. This is why poor women with no doctor or medical coverage go to the er for a pregnancy test.
Being on a no carb or very very low carb diet (I.e. < 20 grams per day) will put a person in a state of ketosis. I think this means that the body is taking its energy from fat stores specifically.
Being diabetic with incorrect insulin levels and getting to a state of ketoacidosis means that the organs start to fail and most probably death. (Had to watch someone go through this first hand. Very very sad because it was preventable)
Ketosis โ Ketoacidosis. Very different meanings/states for each word.
My friend from work always goes to the ER if she thinks she's pregnant. Like damn girl, that's a $450 copay. Go buy a pee stick or go to an actual clinic if you want blood drawn. The ER always gives her a pee test, never blood. She said "if you tell them you have a UTI, they'll see you faster and test you for pregnancy anyway".
She also goes there if she gets a really bad cold. I'm actually hoping she uses the term "ER" as all-encompassing and she's actually going to an urgent care clinic.
I do love her to bits, but cmon girl. Get it together.
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER is free in australia
Pythias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most dollar stores have them too.
JimmyR42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry you have to deal with our snowbirds from Canada who are so used to having the public system take charge for them that they don't know shit about their own health because someone else has the ungrateful job of keeping an eye on them while they thank god for "his caring eye"...
Even better you can get them online on amazon in a box of 25-50 for about 10-15 bucks. As opposed to going to CVS/Wallgreens and buying a single one for 16 freaking dollars. This PSA has been brought to you by a woman with incredibly irregular cycles.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once went to the ER for a nosebleed, I really shouldn't have gotten an ambulance, that was stupid.
eninety2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The second item is why my step son has been doing his own shots and helping with calculations for over 2 years. He's 10, and we want him to be confident and competent in taking care of it. Confident that he's taking the right amount, and competent that he can do it without help. It amazes adults he does his own shots, but it's better to get him used to it now instead of when he's in high school.
I honestly don't get why more people don't understand that this is the "worst that can happen" for practically any disease or medical intervention. Are people so alienated from death?
Worked in an ER full of white trash. This happened all the goddamn time, and when the doctors pointed out it was costly as fuck, the literally would laugh and say they got medicaid so it didn't matter, but if they were pregnant they could get food stamps AND WIC.
fetchit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People go to the er for minor stuff in New Zealand because it's free. But the local Dr is $60. They learn fast though, if you're not serious you wait hours.
Speaking as a young type 1 diabetic, I don't understand how people can not understand the consequences of not taking your insulin properly. As well I don't understand how people can stand high blood sugar for so long, it's awful especially diabetic ketoacidosis, I experienced dka when I was diagnosed 7 years ago and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. Take your meds people.
I'm a type 1 diabetic and it's really disheartening to see people who just will not take their medications. My sister put me in contact with an older woman who was recently diagnosed as type 2 insulin dependent and I talked with her for a long time about all the different options and what might be easier and how its hard but she could do it. She didn't take her meds, her health declined, and she's since passed away. So sad. It's super scary to confront diabetes and take the reigns and handle it, I know that first hand, but you just have to do it... I wish people could figure that out and find the will and courage to take ownership of it.
Why is it that the toes/feet are first to go? Can it progress to other parts of the body like hands too?
Zanuan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice name bro ;)
drkztan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if you have diabetes, that you need to take your medication. No, 'getting fatter' isn't the worst that can happen. The worst that can happen is that you'll die. That's why you're in the ER with diabetic ketoacidosis and suffering organ damage. It's why you're gonna lose your toes. Take your goddamn meds
My dad is an ophthalmologist, you would not believe the amount of people that lose their eyesight over being a bitch about diabetes medication. It's not even something common with less educated people, executives, engineers, biologists (the hospital is near a college campus & research "town") it doesn't matter, there is always one imbecile who refuses to follow medical instruction and fucks it up.
The doctor says if I put anymore of your baby in my coffee he's gonna have to take my foot...
Anderj12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, in most states, it's he cheapest pregnancy test you can get as long as you're on a state or federally funded insurance program like Medicaid or Medical because there is no ER co-pay For most plans.
Source: ER nurse in multiple states, have had this conversation too many times to count.
As a type 1, ketoacidosis is the scariest thing ever. I have only suffered from it once and it wasn't bad enough to be hospitalized. My pump stopped working while I was at school once and by the time I caught on (I was only 10 at the time and my parents weren't informed by the doctors of ketoacidosis) it was too late. My BG was higher then my meter could read. Now a days I am very good at keeping control of it and my A1C is down to a 7 :)
Well actually DKA is usually the first "scare" or event a Type 1 diabetic will have, that brings them to the ER then from there the diabetes is discovered. They would rarely know ahead of time they have diabetes, and then not take insulin and get DKA. Furthermore, type 1 diabetics are usually quite skinny, they don't produce any insulin so their adipose cells don't even take fat in.
Every time I've gone to the ER they've made me piss in a cup to see if I was pregnant. Check the bill - $700 pregnancy test I kept insisting I didn't need.
5p33di3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who went to the hospital for a prescription refill.
Have a father in law with diabetes. He's basically stuck going through the revolving door of health due to heavy drinking (he believes Guinness and wine are sugar free), terrible eating habits, and choosing not to take his medication. He refuses to follow doctor's orders, and even goes as far to lie to his wife.
He is retired, but volunteers to taxi people around places, and is very dangerous.
What's terrifying is the fact that he will be so unhealthy while driving that he has even passed out/blacked out.
He "fell asleep" mid-sentence, while driving my newborn daughter and husband home. He was "asleep" long enough to drive up onto a footpath for approximately 3 meters.
The man literally loses motor functions and has even fallen over his own feet.
I was sitting in an ER waiting room after a minor car accident. I overheard the nurses in the hallway talking about a diabetic lady that had come in earlier. It turns out she woke up to her dog eating her foot. I don't want my dog eating my foot.
Your whole damn feet depending on the severity. Being lazy isn't an excuse for needing surgery amputations and expensive prosthetic and pt to be at max 80% of your original self.
PyrZern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you explain the link between diabetes and losing one's toes ?
I go to dialysis three times a week and everyone there is in an electric wheel chair with no legs below the knee. They bring Mcdonalds and big size sodas for their sessions.
Also they are dick heads because they do that shit where they talk at their smart phones on speaker instead of putting it against their heads like a normal person.
They treat the staff like shit.
alexouxou ยท 1964 points ยท Posted at 21:15:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That taking that weird plant they bought from a "pharmacy" online isn't 14.324 times better than chemo and doesn't only attack cancer cells because it likes the acid environment in it.
This type of snake oil pisses me off. How did they respond?
alexouxou ยท 1296 points ยท Posted at 23:00:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With so many fallacious stupid arguments.. like "yes, but they drink that in a small remote village in the Amazonian forest, and they don't have any case of lung cancer"
Maybe it's because they don't smoke and don't have CT scans or biopsies.
manachar ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 00:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See! CT scans and biopsies cause cancers! There's another remote village with NO doctors and nobody gets cancer. /s
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been keeping all of the souls of the netherworlds from possessing humans and wreaking havoc in this dimension.
Have you seen any humans with the ability to walk on ceilings, spit fire, and vomit swarms of angry bees?
thank you for genuinely caring, it's a great movie that shouldn't be spoiled
dansdata ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:24:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also love this version:
"This compound we've isolated from a plant used medicinally by a tribe in the Amazon is starting to show quite promising anti-cancer properties, in vitro."
"Aha, once again, the wisdom of the ancients!"
"Well..."
"What?"
"They were using it as incense to protect them from all of the diseases that are caused by witchcraft. Oh, and they also thought it was a laxative."
"Is it?"
"No."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my dad had cancer some asshat sold him a bunch of amazonian chocolate saying it's a magic cancer cure. Not only that but it was a MLM thing where my dad was supposed to sell this cancer cure chocolate to other cancer patients. He ended up with like 8 boxes of crazily expensive chocolate bars in his kitchen.
People selling 'cures' to cancer patients are horrible but getting cancer patients into a fake cure MLM is even worse.
Fun that you mention snakes, I had the chance to speak about chemos to a lady who was a herbalist/shaman specifically regarding the myth that snake meat/viscera could cure cรกncer, she said it was a rather absurd misunderstanding, according to her, it could help people to endure cancer treatment, but it was not in it self a treatment.
IN December of 2015 I got diagnosed with Sage 4b hodgkins lymphoma and while I was in the room recovering from the bone marrow biopsy they did at the beginning of my treatment, the fucking oncology nurse there was telling me that I didn't even need chemo but only needed to stop eating red meat and start eating more "hot" foods like ginger and kale. I was like, ummm, yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the chemo and maybe not die?
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:56:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a nurse tell me to "just chop them off" when she learned I had breast cancer. I told her that wasn't sound medical advice and she apologized for blurting it out.
eesh, that's kind of insensitive, don't you think?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:37:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She probably thought, as many women mistakenly do, that no breasts=no return of cancer. This was at the plastic surgeon's office so I cut her some slack.
I know, I thought the same thing! I was like, wtf is this, fuckin oncology department nurse telling me to do yoga, drink ginger tea, and start acupuncture to cure my stg4 cancer.
ya, it was super fun. Started treatment on December 3, 2015 and finished on May 4th. Lost all my hair, most of my toenails, most of the feeling of hot/cold in my left hand, and a big chunk of my left lung due to a pulmonary embolism that happened on May 3rd right before my last treatment. Got the all clear back in July :)
This is my mom:( She tried to juice away a brain tumor. It got huge (was a menigioma so it didn't kill her). Finally had it removed, but she is pretty brain damaged now. Still swears juicing cures everything!
aman4456 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:27:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just dont understand this stuff. Your doctor has gone to school for atleast twice as long as you and is specially trained to take care of patients. If some random stuff on the internet could help your condition dont you think he would reccomend it. Or if you say they dont know about it THEN ASK THEM. I dont usually question my doctor because hes a hell of alot smarter than i am.
Literally all people need to hear is, "So the Big Pharma companies make more money of uncured cancer patients" and they nod their head in agreement. People are super gullible.
Well, I mean for people who remember stuff like the thalidomide scandal it probably isn't totally far-fetched to believe that pharma companies aren't always looking out for the best interests of patients.
Re-patenting albuterol after changing nothing but the aerosol propellant is another example.
You're not wrong, but there are things that can lead to those kind of leaps of logic that are semi-understandable.
mtled ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:27:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean for people who remember stuff like the thalidomide scandal it probably isn't totally far-fetched to believe that pharma companies aren't always looking out for the best interests of patients.
Fun fact about thalidomide: it's a racemic molecule, which means it can come as one of two forms (R and S) that are mirror images of one another and which can flip back and forth. If I recall correctly, the R form is a decent antinausea drug, and is still used in a variety of ways, actually, while the S causes birth defects. It's the racemic nature of the drug - the ability to flip which cannot be prevented inside the body, regardless of how pure your R form was - that caused the problems. Pregnancy is heavily contraindicated for all treatment plans involving thalidomide today.
Re-patenting albuterol after changing nothing but the aerosol propellant is another example.
This is actually a pretty big change to a drug product. You have to show (demonstrate through forced degradation studies) that the new propellant won't react with the drug, that it is stable (3+ years of testing, per lot manufactured for several lots prior to validation, and then ongoing for the lifetime of the drug), that it can be dispensed at adequate dosage (a more viscous fluid, for example, might undermedicate), that the drug is absorbed into the body as well as it was before, that no increases in side effects occur due to the change, and that it treats the indicated illnesses as effectively as the previous formula.
It's NOT a trivial change by any means, and anyone claiming otherwise knows very little about pharmaceutical drug development and validation. Heck, I know very little from only a few years experience in the industry, 10+ years ago, but I know it's a ton of work and $$$. It is absolutely a new drug product (though not new active ingredient).
You're not wrong, but there are things that can lead to those kind of leaps of logic that are semi-understandable.
I don't disagree with you, really, but it's frustrating what people choose to believe. You're just the recipient of my insomniac rant. Sorry!
But at the same time, is it a change significant enough to justify quadrupling or more the price of potentially life saving medication for asthmatics?
MrCar1os ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He did mention is was a ton of work and a lot more money
mtled ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:32:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. What was the market entry price of the previous version before it lost patent? Is it proportional, considering inflation and perhaps more expensive r&d costs today? Then it's a fair price, perhaps. You can't really compare a drug product that's out of patent with several competitors with a completely new formulation - they are in different regulatory, cost recuperation and market/competition environments.
I'm not a finance person and I don't know this case specifically (fuck, I work on airplanes now). It is quite possible, though, that a new, patent protected drug product costs four times what a previous, non patent protected one does. It is also possible that it's a massive money grab, but it is certainly the case that the new formulation SHOULD be more expensive. I just don't know by how much...and neither do you.
I understand the moral questions here - I'm in Canada, with better pricing controls and medication costs can still be crippling - but I've also seen the other side of it and someone has to pay for all the testing and work that goes into a drug validation program. Companies aren't investing years and millions of dollars altruistically.
What was the market entry price of the previous version before it lost patent? Is it proportional, considering inflation and perhaps more expensive r&d costs today? Then it's a fair price, perhaps. You can't really compare a drug product that's out of patent with several competitors with a completely new formulation - they are in different regulatory, cost recuperation and market/competition environments.
At the risk of getting beyond my depth, generics of the version that used a CFC propellant ran about 5 bucks. With the new propellant, the new patent versions are something like 40 or 60 if you don't have insurance I think? Part of what burns my biscuits about the whole thing is that the way I understand it, these drugs were originally going to get a pass on the CFC ban, given the relative insignificance of their contribution to the problem and the importance of the drug, but the name-brand companies lobbied for the propellant ban for the express purpose of being able to re-patent and price gouge patients.
I would also call it overly generous to call a propellant change a new formulation of the drug. It's still an albuterol/salbutamol inhaler, it just has a different propellant.
You are correct that I don't know how much more a change like that should cost, but I do think the justification is shaky and that the daraprim and epi-pen hikes are adequate evidence that pharmaceutical companies don't really have any qualms about putting the screws to consumers til it literally hurts.
mtled ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:37:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another thing: ANY change to the recipe (formulation) of a drug is significant. All you get to do is skip the early work on the effectiveness and toxicology of the active ingredient but changing a formulation - even changing inactive ingredients proportions by a few percent - is a scientifically significant change that needs full validation. That's the only way you can trust the final product and that it is proven to be consistent for every dose. It might seem minor to you, but as my old VP used to say, "chemistry happens, whether you like it or not". You always have to show that your chemistry is stable, and safe, especially after a change.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:09:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd argue that a lot of Big Pharma companies really aren't looking out for their customers (cough cough Epi-pen cough cough), but there would be many easier, less costly ways to make money than profiteering off of cancer patients. That whole theory is wacked.
No they are not "semi-understandable". Yes there can be corruption in Pharamcy... but, there is also corruption in every other occupation ever and to judge a whole industry based of the small corruption is illogical.
I don't mean the conclusion it leads to is understandable, simply that it's possible to understand the thought process that leads them to that conclusion.
I can understand peoples train of thought, but those people can't understand others train of thought. I can't have a reasonable conversation telling them the world isn't out to get them.
I work in cancer research and whenever someone asks 'is there a cure that we aren't being told about?', I immediately lose all respect and will mostly likely stop talking with them.
EmilyVS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:12 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS. I work as a caregiver in an assisted living facility and sometimes a resident won't want to take a pill or follow a dietary restriction and my response is always, "well they did go to medical school for a bunch of years, so......" I usually can convince them to take the pill/follow the restriction. Like, I get it. You are 80-something and know a lot, but in this case, follow the doctor's orders!
You know funnily enough, a lot of new cancer drug delivery research revolves around using the tumor microenvironment's acidity as a means of targeted therapy. For example, some nanoparticles containing chemo drugs break apart in the more acidic tumor microenvironment in order to selectively release there. Probably not what they're referring to though!
I've also heard things like taking baking soda and lemon juice, tumeric, and vitamin C..... sometimes as a cancer researcher this type of shit makes me wonder why I'm trying to find a cure for these people... then I remember it's not for them, they just get lucky if I ever find something of use because then they benefit too.
I mean I know, I really do know that chemo is better.
But my dad was given a year or two to live, said no to chemo, took those weird herbal cure alls. Changed his diet. Had remission. Lived 7 more years. Last 2 were rough, his tumours would grow then shrink, then grow.
Just anecdotal. This was like 10-15 years ago, the odds given to him by the chemo were pretty garbage (which is why he declined), chemo now is literally light years ahead of where it is now.
But for every story of pure coincidence like this one, there's 10 more of people dying needlessly listening to idiots spout nonsense
I was in the ER waiting room overnight and an infomercial by David Wolfe (famed nut job who believes you can cure your cancer with diet) came on and I was actually somewhat outraged that anything he did would be broadcast in a hospital of all places. But they just had the same channel on all night so I'm probably the only person who even noticed, much less cared.
Bob002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my fucking lord, if I had a dollar for every damn time I heard something related to cancer treatment.
There's always weed.
pH level.
Other herbal remedies.
Sorry, but I believe in good, old fashioned science. And while I might give most other snake oil hoodoo a go, I'm still going to use fucking PROVEN SCIENCE.
I work in a hospital, phlebotomist, in a very crunchy city. I remember one patient on oncology who was crying and very upset he had cancer because "I'm a vegetarian and I meditate and do yoga! How did this happen to me?"
Another time I had a patient who put crystals all around her room. These things were on the floor even and if you bumped one, you know like with a phlebotomy cart, she would freak out over me messing the energy up and that's why she wasn't getting better.
My neighbors mom has cancer (it's in remission), she, on the daily, smoked about 3 or 4 packs. When the cancer hit she stopped smoking mostly because she kept getting sick, having strokes(which she fully recovered from), and inability to walk without assistance. Her son, really cool and nice guy, wasn't ready to say goodbye to his mom so he did exactly what you're talking about. He bought some "Sea cucumber" from the Netherlands or some shit. Spent 5k on it. He was hoping she would take it in addition to chemo. I knew it was bullshit and I wanted to ask him what the fuck was wrong with him. Eventually she got better and that's when the cancer went into remission.
So a quick recap: Smokes all day every day for some 25+ years, Gets cancer, has multiple strokes, recovers mostly fully from strokes (small ticks), gets really sick really easily, sick all the time, recovers from illnesses, cancer goes into remission... Goes back to smoking 2-3 packs a day.
She literally won the lottery in surviving cancer, illnesses, and strokes but decides she can't quit smoking because thats just ridiculous.
I was living in China and taught English on the side to a student whose mother was a physician. This was in 2012 just prior to the London Olympics, the mother wanted to send her daughter to London with a school group to watch the Olympics but has reservations about it. I asked why, she said she was worried that her daughter would catch AIDS from using the public toilets. Yes, a doctor.
RQZ ยท 7197 points ยท Posted at 22:45:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV education and awareness in China is severely lacking, even for educated doctors.
Source: Was Chinese
Edit: Chinese as in Nationality, not ethnicity.
[deleted] ยท 2575 points ยท Posted at 22:59:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was?
KOWLich ยท 6164 points ยท Posted at 23:32:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
benchley ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 04:53:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm having a weird reaction, which is equal parts "I totally would have said that," and "Oh man, I hope I can remember never to say something like this." Like a sort of instructive-hope-cringe.
I've been trying, as I get older, not to always go for the laugh. It's hard.
Yeah that's me as well. Some of the things that come out or almost come out of my mouth - albeit witty - are NOT socially acceptable. That's a danger that comes with always being "on"
benchley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's got to be a word for this - either German, or fabricated for the internet with an artsy photo.
I told her I was very sorry and I was just trying to be funny but I should have thought a little bit harder before I opened my dumb mouth. She was totally cool about it which was nice but then a felt like a bigger piece of shit. So yeah... No I'm an idiot
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could have happened to anyone, best not to dwell on it too much.
kumiosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:14:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's those little stupid utterances or reactions that are hardest not to dwell on. It's strange.
Poopyoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair my first actual assumption was they just werent friends anymore. either way if you ask you lose
JoXand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he's not Mexican - he's dead!
Bolcik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cured
Boi.
DiggerW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's great to hear! I've had acquaintances who never got over it, and they died Chinese. It truly deserves more attention from the medical community.
TheyToHe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. Isn't that exactly what that means? Are you trolling?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was taught that nationality is about where you are born and/or spent your formative years. Citizenship can totally change, but nationality doesn't. Wayne Gretzky has lived in the USA since 1988, but no one is going to claim he's not a Canadian.
Really? I think of him as an American. I actually think you're wrong about nationality. If I'm a citizen of a country, I claim that nationality.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:06:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What counts the upper limit on "formative years"?
And what about the proverbial army brat who is born on a base outside of their country of citizenship?
Henry Kissinger was 15 when his family moved to the United States. Madeleine Albright was 11. Both served as Secretary if State, and one would be hard pressed to not consider them American.
IIRC American law, for example, distinguishes between nationals and citizens. You can be a US national and not a citizen (but not the other way around). E.g., if you abandon your US citizenship you're still a US national, but no longer a US citizen.
Born in Sweden, to Swedish parents with a long lineage of being Swedish (two different relatives, one on my mothers side and one on my fathers side, have done extensive genealogy. There's literally no immigrants on either side as far back as they went (on my mothers side back to early 1700s, on my fathers side all the way back to the 1500s).
I'm blonde with blue eyes, over 6ft tall and have a large blonde beard. I'm as Swedish as it gets. And as white as it gets.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:37:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chinese is a bit different. The people you are referring to are not ไธญๅไบบ, meaning citizens of China, but they are ไธญ่ฏไบบ, culturally and ethnically Chinese. I'm not sure if all Uyghurs would consider themselves ไธญ่ฏไบบ, but they are definitely ไธญๅไบบ if they are from Xinjiang. In English, we just say "Chinese" for both concepts.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
qroga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One can quit a nationality. By the way, China doesn't allow people to have dual citizenship. My guess is that OP quit being Chinese in favour of another nationality. Their parents', probably.
Also was Chinese. Parents told me to never buy thrift store clothing because what if the previous owner had HIV and their body fluids are on the clothing??
It's the poor HIV education compounded with the very real threat of body-fluid-transmitted diseases in China. Over 90 million people in the country have Hepatitis B, for example (WPRO source here)
I'm a Canadian currently living and working in marketing in China. I love this place and I try to learn as much as I can about it and appreciate the positives. However, they are goddamn terrified of tuberculosis, yet haven't made a reeducation campaign to encourage people to stop hacking up loogies and spitting them everywhere. You know a great way to spread tb? Covering public spaces with mucus. Ugh. Medicine in general is a bit of a cluster fuck here.
I see, that makes sense. No, I didn't go to any markets with live animals. It was really weird though, I went to places definitely more rural than a city, and I didn't see any livestock period. I saw a working donkey, 2 stray cats and 1 pet dog in my main city and those were the only animals I encountered in "the wild." It was so bizarre to me. But I didn't see any bugs either so it was cool.
Yeah, the list of reasons to stay the fuck away from China grows every day, since I don't like dog, or disappearing, or bird flu, or TB, or Internet censorship, or forced organ donations, or no free speech, or a whole host of things, I'm gonna stay in the USA, where I only have to worry about kids who have measles.
There is one big difference. The level of personal violence is much, much lower in China. I wouldn't worry much if my girlfriend bounced around a bunch of Shanghai clubs with her gf's... but the US? She'd be at a much higher risk of rape, beatings or worse.
It's not like everyone gets them. It is more common than in the west. But none of my Chinese friends have done that I think. A lot of things get blown out of proportion here. If 1% of the population does something, it's like the same population as a small country doing something.
I had a small case of the shits, of course since they use sewer oil in their restaurants, and my work insisted that I go to the hospital where they hooked me up to an IV for 8 hours, instead of letting me go home and sit by the toilet.
This is all coming as a great shock to me, because wasn't it the Chinese who were the first to understand and practice medicine at all? How did they go from super-intelligent innovative world leaders to dumbed-down ignoramuses seemingly living in the Dark Ages?
Also, keeping in mind that particular practice, then go to the grocery store and touch the uncovered meat directly with your bare unwashed hands to make sure it feels right.
My brother lived 5 years in China and never once tried cooking while he was there.
He didn't not cook because of safety. He avoided cooking because being a foreigner in China allows you to avoid taking care of yourself because you can pay other people to do it. What did he eat? That food came from the same grocery store he was avoiding. Even the fancy restaurants. Did he have a full time ayi too? Lol. My bf and I cook 5 times a week and have not yet had an ayi come clean (probably will when we move just to make it super nice for the next people) because we're grownups and we don't want to forget how to function in the west. Christ, I know a woman (who is not rich) who doesn't even raise her own child because her nanny costs less than $800 full time per month.
Over 90 million people in the country have Hepatitis B
I did the maths. China had nowadays a fifth of the world's population, and a third of HBV carriers. This means that per capita, there are 50% more carriers in China than in the world.
Not good, but that shocking either.
Finie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the math. I was just starting up my Google-Fu.
When I lived in China, one of my colleagues' boyfriend was a hairdresser so he offered to cut our hair for free if we needed a trim. He refused to do this for the one black guy because he assumed all black people have HIV and that he would somehow contract it while cutting his hair.
You can change your paperwork, you can change your views, and among other things. You can never change how others see you unless you do a full plastic surgery and change your skin. There are also fundamental things that makes you inherently different than others based up upbringing etc.
I never understood why some Asians born in NA would think this way. I think it's just immaturity and inability to accept yourself for being who you are. You are born as X, accept X, and make what you can out of life.
Kelpsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*am
If you're going to make a point, at least do it properly.
Is that the reason why we have so many stories of Chinese nationals squatting on sit-down toilet seats? Or is that just a habit from the squatting type?
himit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Partially maybe. People tend to think that squatting is cleaner because your skin doesn't come into contact with the seat
How can you be a Chinese nationality but not ethnicity? I mean, I am because my parents worked in HK before it was return to China and they got HK passport, but I don't think there's anyway of getting Chinese nationality unless your parents/ one of the parents is/are Chinese
I think you misunderstood what they said, but to address your question, there are over fifty minority ethnic groups in China, accounting for tens of millions of people. Many of them aren't considered or don't consider themselves ethnically Chinese, even while holding Chinese citizenship.
Oh, if that's the case, I totally understand, though I have to correct you a bit here, ethnically, most are considered Han people, not Chinese, if he said Han I would have understood right away, but as he used Chinese as a whole, most ethnics in China is still Chinese except some living in the border provinces such as HeilongJiang, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang etc. But I guess it somehow makes sense now.
No correction necessary. In my experience, if someone refers to 'Chinese' as an ethnic category they are generally talking about Han people, and possibly a few very closely related minorities like the Hui. I wasn't interested in snowballing this into an entire tangent about interethnic relations in modern China, so I just went with the language that was already being used.
The real takeaway here is that English speakers as a whole have never found China important enough to sort out the many ambiguities there are in English for talking about China. At least, not in an informal register.
Totally agree with your last statement, I wouldn't have known so much about China if I wasn't born and raised there, it's Avery fascinating country with a very very interesting history.
As a wife of a geographer, your edit made my husband smile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In general doctors in the recent decade or after 2000s are fine. But going back theres some serious lack of training. Im talking about people who probably didn't go to a university or collage even. Their hospitals have some pretty bad policies like giving antibiotics for 2 days only or dumping people to IV for things like an occasional fever. The process is more orientated towards mass health care
Source: Have some family in China that are doctors, some things they do would be considered pretty insane like nerosurgery on 10 people a day or the GP that has hardly any training from Mao's era.
Senray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if HIV isn't specifically well known, shouldn't a doctor have the basic virology knowledge to know that it isn't easily transmitted?
So you, Japanese and Koreans differ by nationality only?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's seriously lacking in the states as well! My sex Ed teacher sophomore year told us we could contract HIV/AIDS and many other illnesses and diseases just from shaking hands or from public toilets!
Luckily I'm a germ freak and actually did real research. Scare tactics are not an effective sex Ed technique.
I suspect (depending on your location), general medical knowledge may also be lacking, not just HIV. You'll probably be okay in Shanghai or Beijing, but get a bit more provincial and standards fall.
It's certainly like that in India.
A school friend's parents spent a few years in Delhi for her Dad's work. So, western company, top end health insurance in India's capital city. One day her mum got bitten by a cat so she goes to the hospital in case of rabies.
The physician takes a look , frowns and says:
"I don't think you can get Rabies from cats"
This was basically the top hospital in Delhi where westerners with all-singing health insurance from their companies go.
She got a second opinion and a rabies shot.
In case you don't know: pretty much any mammal can carry rabies - cats, dogs, bats. You name it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
China does not allow dual citizenship, so it would have been when they received citizenship of another country and renounced their Chinese citizenship.
caesar15 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:00:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No...? Then you would say was a country's citizen.
Maybe you should brush up on your English before switching your documentations.
Even if you are born in US and your parents are Chinese, you'd still be Chinese.
I hate this line of thinking. Did you really think a paper defined who you are as a person? Do you think that other people in your country all consider you to be their race and ethnicity? No.
Grow up, you are what you are. Accept who you are. There is different type of people in every race. You don't have to do what other people in your race do, nor do you have to believe what they believe in. If you can't accept the fact that you are Chinese, and always will be one. I feel sorry for you.
Source: work in IT with lots of Chinese and Indian people.
Some places "doctor" can mean "relatively rich family that bought diploma" and has nothing to do with experience or education.
Want to watch someone lose their shit? Ask an actually qualified, high performing, Chinese or Indian person about this system.
Double points if this person is female, the bullshit they have to put up with is literally unbelievable if you haven't seen it first hand.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:44:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I guess technically that is possible if you sit on a toilet seat that's covered in blood, right? Maybe the daughter was actually just that stupid?
VannaTLC ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. You'd have to rub that blood into an open wound, and that blood would have to be single-digit minutes old.
Most public hospitals also contain doctors of traditional Chinese medicine.
Arguss ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:35:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medicine with Chinese Characteristics.
(Idk how obvious this joke will be, but when China started becoming more Capitalist, the ruling Communist Party couldn't say they were turning away from Socialism, so in a speech the leader said they weren't turning away from Socialism, they were just adopting Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.
This is combined in the joke with the fact that China is known for having 'alternative' Chinese herbal medicine that people often prefer to so-called 'Western' medicine.)
Donโt be daft. If she were a Chinese Medicine doctor she wouldnโt have been concerned because a little snake oil in your tea will clear that kind of infection right up.
User name checks out. Also there's a damn good reason I fly to Hong Kong for anything other than a papercut. 'Good for the healthy' is my most despised phrase.
There were a few private western hospitals that I would go to if necessary. They had a mix of international and local staff that were trained to Western standards. I never went to a public hospital, I had a friend get misdiagnosed in Qingdao and it almost cost him his life.
It's a problem when the rich students start going to other countries. They assume they're still in a system where they can just bribe and cheat their way through. Unfortunately some unis do let them get away with bullshit no poorer student would get away with but often faculty members can be pretty clear about their feelings on these students.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, at least until recently, the brightest Chinese students don't actually go into medicine. As a huge developing country, I bet the training in different institutions can be very inconsistent.
FIFY, you left out information that should have been reemphasized.
My mother was a med school professor in the U.S. Late in her career, she basically just ran a lab. Most of her lab techs were "doctors" from various random countries before they emigrated to the U.S. Their education was severely lacking compared even to your basic American pre-med bio major.
I had a Malagasy guy with a PhD in biology try to convince me that if you get a spider bite, you have to inject scorpion venom into the area to treat it. Because scorpions kill spiders. So the scorpion venom kills the spider venom as wells. Other option was to soak a scorpion in the local rum and drink all of it to cure a scorpion sting. Because the scorpion obviously has the anti-venom to its own venom.
Chances are high this was all just an excuse to drink an insane amount of rum. Not that an excuse was ever necessary.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You only need the most basic of educations to be a doctor here in China. I've had arguments with doctors claiming that there was no such thing as a penicillin allergy. Competency is not a common commodity here.
Not always. The US just doesn't except anyone else's degrees and diplomas (yes there are exceptions but not many and usually there are very specific situations, that's why the testing of foreign students gets so weird).
I work in a chemistry department at a university with a lot of foreign students, it happens a lot. Especially with visiting PhDs. Our department rejected a Russian guy for a research position. He ended up winning a few awards this year internationally.
Well it is possible since aids acctually mostly resides in fluids so perhaps some non-piss fluids of aids infected people made it onto the seat and dunno what happens next but it is possible however tiny the chance is
I know someone in the IS that still firmly believes that the only way for a man to get AIDS is through an affected woman, who is on her period, and he has an open wound on his junk. That or taking dick up the ol' stinky dropper.
I've met / talked with a lot of native Chinese people. They are scared to death of AIDS and feel they could catch it at any moment if the proper precautions are not in place.
I still get told by my Chinese friends that only 'girls who like to have lots of sex' use tampons, because i live in China and often bemoan how the lack of options for tampons is ridiculous. And i guess that's why, tampons are for sluts!
There is a huge poster about AIDS though right outside my compound at the bus stop, encouraging people to talk about it and change attitudes, but people still think sitting on a public toilet will kill them.
Is it possible that she's one of the "tiger bone" doctors? If so then it makes complete sense.
dmac0331 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother does janitorial service for Boeing in the Seattle area, she constantly freaks out about STDs and bacteria etc. I argue with her nearly every visit because she is confident that you can get aids from a toilet seat. At first I thought it was funny, now I find it concerning that she hasn't been educated well in the subject.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having been in public restrooms in both England and China I'll tell you that one is grosser than the other. Take a guess which one.
I had a housekeeper in Beijing who by chance met my gay friend (F) one day. She proceeded to do me the "favour" of confiding in me later that it was just not safe for me to be friends with a gay woman, "because lesbians get AIDS more than anyone else."
I used to be friends with an older woman from Taiwan (in her 50s at the time, probably in her 60s now).
She told me how when she was in high school, there was a sex education component of her biology class. Her teacher skipped over this. He told the students that they could read it on their own. However, there was a test later on and if you answered the sex education questions correctly (indicating you had read the material) you would be considered a 'bad student' and have your overall grade reduced. Apparently this was customary at the school.
She went on to tell me how when she was in college, she sincerely believed she could become pregnant if she sat next to a male student.
It doesn't take much insight to see that that woman has a reasonable concern.
I remember witnessing this same conversation between a teacher and a kid in grade two. After a lot of naysaying, the teacher was forced to admit that certain kinds of medications will indeed cause a patient to pass blood in their stool. Let's say an AIDS patient is a user of illegal drugs like marijuana, and they pass blood in their stool. Are you going to send your son or daughter into that stall?
To be fair, I don't trust public toilets to the point where I might as well pretend they'll give me super AIDS. I don't know who's been sitting on those and half the time they have urine on them.
rogicar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you expect when her education was made in China.
Somehow I doubt that she was taught traditional modern medicine. I've worked with Chinese doctors and they know just as much as any of us American doctors. Maybe this was a "natural doctor" or some such thing?
Not sure of the extent of her education. She was a doc with the PLA and working at a military hospital in Beijing. In China, a military hospital is not like a military hospital in the US where only active duty military can go; there, it is only administratively run by the military for public use.
Bjw2nf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get AIDS from a toilet seat.....if you sit down before the guy before you gets up :)
So this is unrelated but would you be able to point me in the direction of a good organization to teach English in China ? I'm a native US citizen with a BA in English
My purpose for going to China was not to teach. I know there are dozens upon dozens of companies that will sponsor you to go there and teach, but EVERYONE at some point WILL get ripped off in some sort or another. There are tons of forums that discuss moving there to teach. Also check out thebeijinger.com for advice about Beijing specific.
No, we were speaking Chinese and I remember clearly because it took me a min to figure out she was saying "AIDS" in Chinese "่พๆป็ โ; which happens to sounds similar to the English pronunciation.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A legitimate question : what makes it absolutely impossible?
I mean, AFAIK, HIV virus can be transmitted through bodily fluids and can enter your body through open wounds or through blood transfusion. Hence, keeping the Chinese doctor situation aside, doesn't public toilets ( which usually are not cleaned regularly ) pose a chance?
amyfus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:33:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An extremely slim one. Maybe if you sat on a toilet seat covered in AIDS blood with open hemorrhoids?
The only scenario I can reasonably see would be if someone with HIV bled on some toilet paper and then you immediately used it for an extra deep wipe, even then transmission isn't very likely. Just don't rub any fresh blood or semen into your orifices or open wounds and you should be okay.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV will almost always die within minutes of being outside a host body. If you watch someone bleed all over a toilet and then rub the fresh blood in your open wounds, then you might catch it that way. (But you also might not.)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice. Interesting article. I will try to read more since I am still unaware of a lot of things related to HIV. HIV can not live outside a host body = news to me !!!
That's why it has to be transferred physically from inside one body to inside another -- sex, blood transfusions, fresh blood inside open wounds or, occasionally, in the eyes. Blood, semen, vaginal secretions, saliva, and breastmilk can transmit HIV. You're even mostly safe swallowing it because your stomach acid will kill it -- unless it finds another way in, and are you CERTAIN you don't have any esophageal erosions? Don't fuck around, but don't be terrified for no reason, either. :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I have always understood there is no reason to be terrified. And honestly, I also found some media portrayals bending the facts.
That said, improving awareness I guess, is the best way to contain the spread.
xxxsur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a chance? yes. but chances aren't higher in the UK, same chance of contracting HIV from toilet seats (if toilet seats prevail in their city)
Rhufus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once the HIV virus is out of the body, it's dead. Even if someone with HIV left loads of blood or semen on a toilet seat and you sat on it with an open sore, transmission would still be near impossible.
ywu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV virus counts need to be considered too. Also, you need to have an opening for the virus to get into you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was that patient once. In my late 20s I was fortunate enough to have never had a boil.
Nor did I know anyone who had ever had one so when I got one under my arm I just assumed it was some sort of sore that would go away. When it grew to the size of a weeping golf ball and became super painful I figured out it was a boil and knew that you fix boils by lancing them. Tried to stab it with my rusty penknife but chickened out and went to the doctor instead.
I took my soggy tissue away from the mess in my armpit and the doctor literally jumped back in horror.
I now know that boils do not fix themselves and should be immediately treated with antibiotics. Married a Pharmacy Assistant just to be on the safe side.
I got a nasty ingrown hair on the side of my dick once. Started normal, no biggie. A month later started getting bigger but wouldn't get a head. Out of frustration, I squeezed it to try and pop it. It popped alright. Only not outside my shaft. It popped internally and now I had fucking TWO massive boils side by side on my meat tube. About the size of half a golf ball together.
I tried Lancing it. Don't do that. Finally went to a doctor. His face was priceless haha. Oh well antibiotics and a week later it looked like my dick murdered someone with its bare pubes because the thing popped over night. Long two months.
My boyfriend got a ingrown hair on his, and finally asked for help -_- nastiest thing I've ever had to help with ๐ but once the hair was out it healed on its own at least ๐
Am GP in small town British medical centre. Older lady came into one of the day clinics with a large shopping bag emitting a foul smell, so much so we gave her the 'special treat' reserved for smelly patients of waiting in the doctor's corridor instead of the waiting room, having received complaints from other patients.
Said older lady comes into my office for her appointment and sits down, asks me how big the largest 'poo' I've ever seen - "as a doctor" - was. I demur and explain I don't actually see as much poo as one might imagine, and she proceeds to tell me an epic tale:
For the week before her appointment, she'd had the worst case of constipation she'd ever had. She tried and tried, but could not go to the toilet no matter how much olive oil or liquorice she consumed. Then, the day before the clinic, she felt "the urge" and found herself doing "the longest poo I've ever seen - it just kept coming, and coming, and coming".
So fascinated was she by her enormous poo that she couldn't bring herself to flush it, but picked it out of the toilet, put it in a waterproof shopping bag, and showed her friends, who - she says - told her she must show it to a medical professional, because we'd just be fascinated to see such a large, unusual stool.
And then she opened the bag, and showed me her poo. Which filled it. It filled the entire bag.
TL;DR: Full grown adult woman brought in a big bag of her poo because she thought I'd find it interesting.
I can't help but feel that if I, a 29 yo man did this you would not be as understanding and Ill be honest, im feeling slightly triggered here. I want to show people my big poo's :(
My little bro did this once on a family vacation. He was so proud, he escorted the rest of us into the bathroom to show it off before flushing his accomplishment down the toilet. Though my brother was probably 8, the woman from your story definitely had more to brag about. Thank you for reminding me of that silly memory.
Cochupo ยท 790 points ยท Posted at 01:27:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMFG, finally something I can comment on. Well, here in Mรฉxico we have something called social service (Our college education is free in some institutions, so we have to pay for it with one year of free work in a rural area).
So the first month a woman in her 30s came to consult because she was feeling weird in the mornings since forever. I asked what her symptoms were and she told me that every day she wakes up feeling her mouth dry, and that feeling disappears in about one or two hours. "well lady, how many water do you drink?" "Hmm, one or maybe two glasses, one at breakfast, and one middleday"
"Do you know what thirst is?"
"Yeah, when you drink water so you can piss"
So I had a conversation that took one hour long about what thirst is and how it feels, also I had to told her that she needed to drink more water.
I don't now what blows my mind more, the idea that someone can't determine that they're thirsty, or that someone can make it through a day on only 2 glasses of water.
Really? This could explain so much... For the majority of my life, I honestly can't/couldn't express if I was hungry or thirsty. I still can't. I'll think I'm hungry and then after half a bottle of water or a can of soda I'm not 'hungry' anymore. Only at that point do I think maybe I was just thirsty after all.
How would I find out? For reference, I'm 27 years old. I have always had sensory issues for as long as I can remember; whether it is the feel of clothing or bedding, or the texture of food, I've had difficulty being comfortable because of all these problems.
Gotta get tested for autism at your nearest mental health facility. Fair warning though, depending on where you live it might be a bit of a fight to get looked at because of your age. I'm in Canada and it took me forever to get looked at because I was being tested at 14.
Older people usually adjust for their odder habits, I'm still not entirely sold on being autistic because I grew up on a farm and didn't have a friend until high school.
Important thing though, if you do get assessed don't try to act normal or polite, my assessment was difficult because I had been taught basic manners. Those kinds of things will make it more difficult to get a real read, don't be a dick on purpose though.
If you tell them that sensory issues are what tipped you off it should make it easier. I don't have much for sensory issues, except I can't stand wool or even moderately tight clothing (the light sensitivity is because I drew all the short sticks with my eyes) but I know the "padded room" autists had a hundred sensory issues.
PM me if something comes out of this. And I got a little better at differentiating the two sensations through sports, thirst always came up first so it helped. When in doubt I reach for the water though, I leak like a sieve sometimes because of that though but it beats gaining more fucking weight.
Wow, I totally will! I'm in the US, with pretty decent insurance, so I hope I won't have too many problems getting tested. Although not being normal/polite will be difficult! I've had to correct for what is considered socially normal for so long, I tell my fiancรฉ that I really don't know what my true personality would be like without the 'correction.'
I'll definitely let you know if something comes up! Thanks ๐
yeah, it's hard to drop those "corrections." I turned into a massive twat for a while when I did. I realized I was doing half the stuff I did because I was "supposed to" and didn't know why, so I stopped . Helped me figure out who I was and what was an act, made me pretty unpleasant though.
Hmm, this is interesting. I don't think I'm autistic but I HAVE been diagnosed with several mental illnesses that have overlapping symptoms with autism and I didn't understand thirst until I was in my twenties. When I became more health conscious, I started trying to chug a large bottle of water several times a day but it was so hard most of the time I would end up swallowing air bubbles; it was like my body had forgotten how swallowing worked and it gave me terrible tummy aches. I got so dehydrated one time that I needed several liters of IV fluid, though I never felt thirsty throughout the whole thing, only nauseous and shaky. And I've always had a hard time telling when I'm hungry. I've always attributed that to being an emotional eater. I overeat when I'm anxious but otherwise I don't know I'm hungry until suddenly I start to feel queasy because my blood sugar has dropped and I realize I haven't eaten all day. I never drank water growing up. I would drink maybe two glasses of Kool-aid a day and that was it but it didn't seem to negatively impact me until recently. Interesting to hear from people who have a similar story.
For most of my life I've been unable to tell when I'm thirsty. My throat rarely feels dry; sometimes it feels sticky but it's easy to ignore. If I'm concentrating intensively like coding or playing an immersive game, even more so. I was chronically dehydrated and completely unaware of it until I started realizing that lack of water was the cause of a number of physical problems. So for the past 10, 12 years I have a large carafe or, these days, a 1.5l nalgene bottle on my desk where I cannot miss seeing it. I try to make sure I drink it all each day, and refill whenever empty.
Edit: a word
Are you on the spectrum? I used to be the same way until I got diagnosed and found out that hunger and thirst were supposed to feel different. I found out a lot of people on it very different sensory feedback on hunger/thirst
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:47:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with me, and I'm on the spectrum also.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Granted, this was once suggested to me by a high functioning autism person. (Sorry, I don't know if 'autism' is considered an unacceptable term these days.) We were having a discussion about not being able to hear who you're talking with in noisy restaurants and whether that was due to attention, or a physical thing. I said "attention," and this suggested to him I might be high functioning.
But TBH I don't feel like it's something I need to know. I've lived 50 years not knowing and don't think knowing will change my life.
I've found it can run in the family, it might not do much more for you but I kinda consider it like other hereditary conditions - you want it on the list if its there
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:50:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with me. I like the Nalgene idea but (like the commenter below pointed out) I'm on the autism spectrum and one thing is I have a big preoccupation with standing water. Like you know when it sits for a while and it starts getting the little bubbles? lol. Freaks me out. I do not drink bubble water. Also, reusing plastic, especially the bottles with narrow mouths that are difficult to clean, freaks me THE HELL out. I have a thing about bacteria and germs and plastic. :c
But you have given me an idea to perhaps buy a large glass jar....! :)
The thing that is so crazy is that she has a normal feeling of thirst, she just had no idea what it meant. I can't believe she never was able to connect feeling thirsty and drinking water relieving that feeling. If you don't feel thirst much, that is a different thing.
I think I also missed making the connection. It's just that I had to be extremely thirsty in order to notice it. Now I am a little more attentive to the signals, but it still takes a conscious effort.
I think Americans get by on less. I can't tell you how many people I know who think it's weird that I only drink water. They hate the taste of water, all they drink is coffee or soda
I used to be that way until I went into the military. Ever since then it can be a battle finishing a can of soda. Even sweet tea/lemonade I just give up part way through because I'm satisfied with the drink I had. It drives my room mate crazy that I only buy the 16 oz bottles of soda/tea when I do buy it and that there are always at least 1-2 open bottles of different types in the fridge. He thinks that since I go through 4-5 of my 32oz container worth of water a day I'm just being wasteful.
snoharm ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That clutter would annoy me too. Why don't you just buy normal sized bottles and use a glass to portion as needed?
Well I usually drink about 1/2 of them before the sugar gets to be too much for me. I only have 2-3 bottles 1/2 at the time and the rest are in drawers. I just can't do more really, most drinks in the US are way too sugary and just turn me off about 1/2 through.
snoharm ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:31:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why do you have three separate bottles of sugary drinks in there at the same time? Honestly seems a little inconsiderate.
I don't like incredibly sweet drinks, either, so I don't drink them much. Easy solution.
Well it's not 3 of the same kind, I buy bottles of mostly non carbonated ones and leave them till I get them the next day or day after. I figure it's better to keep a couple sugary drinks around than a few pints if ice cream when I have a sweet tooth.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
buy the mini cans! THEY'RE SO CUTE.
orkdoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how a sugary drink like soda or tea is better than ice cream.
Well if you compare one can of a soda to an entire pint of ice cream, which is how I eat it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:44:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad banned me from opening cans of soda at his house, because every time I leave there's still 3/4 can left. I like the taste for a few sips, but a whole can?? That's HUGE! Especially when I think that it's just sugar syrup mixed with fizzy water and acid. MMM APPETIZING. lol.
This is not blood sugar related diabetes, although they have a common name, diabetes mellitus and diabetes insipidus are two entirely separate conditions with unrelated mechanisms.
Just a little known condition that people can go their whole lives not recognising. I thought you may be interested as your water consumption is consistently above average. If not, carry on!
honestly, I think out of all drinks, water tastes the best. It's refreshing-tasting, Imo.
JustVan ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend like this... And it just baffles me, because water is just so nice. I mean, I like a good flavorful drink sometimes too, but most of the time I just want water.
Actually, to be fair, some people don't drink water because it actually tastes nasty. Where I grew up, we had great city water, and I drank water all the time. Where I live now, it's gross to get through a glass of straight tap water, and even filtered water has a lingering stale taste.
boom149 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird as hell. I'm American and the only time I drink soda is when I get a combo meal at a fast food place. At home or at a nicer restaurant, water is cheaper and therefore the objectively better option.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:38:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:43:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In every state? Huh.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:12:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all. Tap water in the Pacific Northwest is like suckling from the teat of mother nature herself
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:17:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn straight! Happen to live there myself. Was just amazed that someone had tasted water in every city in all 50 states. Maybe Puerto Rico too. Never know. /s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in California.
Before the drought, it tasted like the ass-crack of the swamp man.
During the drought, it now tastes like the ass-crack of the swamp man except he's severely dehydrated from uncontrollable liquid shits.
My cousin lives somewhere in California. I have no clue where. Maybe she is your next door neighbor maybe she lives 200 miles from you. My point is, her house has hard water. It tastes bad and after showering you never feel fully clean. I couldn't live a life like that. I just couldn't.
That's incredibly dependent on where in America you are. I can drive 15 minutes and the tap water will taste completely different. Depends on where it's coming from and what the country is treating it with.
cornicat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok yeah, that makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if it went so far as different water treatment regulations in each state. I wouldn't know about the bottled water brands though - except for Evian which is crap worldwide and 7/11 brand which tastes really good.
American here, who loves tap water. I've NEVER understood this... water has no taste; what is there not to like? Am I just lucky to have grown up in a city with proper/balanced water and treatment??
bakawolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on where you are. I grew up drinking well-water and that stuff was great. Moved to a city? the stuff tastes horrible and was basically undrinkable.
So the first thing I did was buy a a filter-pitcher.
I've always drank city water. I have been places where ya just don't do that, because you can smell the sulfur or chlorine as it comes out of the tap. I know our city water is chlorinated where I live now, but you can't taste or smell it.
I'm American and I have a 40 oz. bottle that I refill 5-6 times a day. And that's all I drink except for a cup of hot tea now and then. Soooo.... who's wrong?
I am the same way. Good thing my husband caught on the water drinking instead of always drinking soda. It's healthier.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:42:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hardly drink water ever. I'll drink tea, coffee. Sometimes that's the only liquids I drink in a day. I downloaded an app to remind me to drink water. I cannot believe 1. how often it wants me to slug water and 2. how much water it wants me to drink in a day.
I pee SO MUCH if I get anywhere near its recommended dosage. It sucks. I hate drinking water.
*Yes I know this is stupid. But it's the truth. I'm healthy in every other aspect of what I eat (no red meat, fried foods, fast food about 1x a month, lots of fruit and veg. I almost never drink soda or anything with added sugar.). Water just bores and inconveniences me.
Research has shown that many of those "drink x of water a day" are not necessary and that your body is usually pretty good at letting you know when to drink. You may be unnecessarily subjecting yourself to water torture.
I pee constantly too, which I guess is obvious with the amount of water I drink. But now I'm pregnant, so it's even worse!
apcSouza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, until I was 24 and had a kidney issue which brought me to hospital I do not recall myself drinking water.
I remember thinking: "it's been probably 4 days since my last glass of water".
I was never thought from my parents the culture of drinking water, if there is such a thing. But even how important it is.
How I made until 24 without problems? hard to say, I dont take a lot of salt or sugar in my diet, rarely drink soda (once every 3 or 4 months). Eat loads of fruits and vegetables, where my body probably got the liquid.
Ever since my scared hospital situation, I have been drinking a lot, there is not a day that I dont drink.
I have pints of water everywhere I go in my house and some days I drink up to 5L.
I only drink 1 oz of water a day and that's bc the nurses at my dispensary have to put it in my methadone to turn it from syrup to liquid otherwise I wouldn't drink any. So unhealthy but I hate water.
I'm bad like this. But in my case, I don't like the feeling of drinking sometimes. Any liquid. It's just...uncomfortable. And if I drink too fast it feels all weird going down. And then it feels like someone punched me in the stomach, or I have a big rock in there. It's just...uncomfortable. But I've recently discovered that's just my reaction to cold water...lukewarm water is still unpleasant, but it's easier to manage.
Wow, I can understand stuff like not understanding sex related things or something, but something as basic as thirst is shocking
Kriegrr ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I was far less thirsty before I started drinking more water regularly...it's like it gets suppressed if you're chronically dehydrated.
SquidCap ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:10:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off-topic but that system of free education sounds really good and pragmatic solution. Having something like this, youth spending a year in the country and then going to school is just marvelous idea. I'm from Finland so we don't need to do anything but we do have conscription (but that is not the same as it is only mandatory service for males, i'm quite serious that the good part in your system is the mixing of females and males coming from different areas is good boost for economy...) that basically forces people to move out from home, get a taste of different lifestyle that does NOT revolve around your wants and needs. I would like to give everyone a year off and spend that time travelling the earth but that is utopia.. I spent my time of service taking care and living with handicapped kids in the countryside (in a large commune, 80 adults, 120 kids), amazing and very difficult experience that reshaped my life.
Cochupo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it is indeed a really nice system in theory. Unfortunately the situation in my country is really bad. I did my internship far away from my home and that was one of the best/worst things in my life, from one hand, I learned a LOT, and from the other hand, no one takes care for you. This year, a lot of my friends who are doing their social service had to be relocated one or many times because the people threatened to kill them or injure them (last year 10 students were killed doing their social services) . This is even worse for the women, a lot of rapes in medical students doing their social service is happening all across the country. I'm fortunate to have a nice economic situation and my family is very supportive, other people had to abandon the career or do other things (like investigation or office work instead of clinical work).
My sister (who is a new redditor and hope sees this) is a doctor and 25 years ago when she had her very very first patient out of residency and this patient refused to allow her to see her breasts (which were sore and needed a mammogram to check out a lump). So sister asks why and this girl who is about 30 and single said matter of factly "oh. That's lesbian. We can't do that. It's against the lord's wishes." She loves telling this story at the dinner table on family gatherings. Especially to our religious side.
Leohond15 ยท 501 points ยท Posted at 02:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then why didn't she ask for a male doctor? Oh right because that's sinful too. I guess God just wants you to have breast cancer
The way I imagined it really went down is that the woman didn't know why my sister had to physically check the lump. She just thought "I'm gonna get a mammogram" and no need to get all feely.
Okay you need to put this blindfold on to protect your eyes for when I wheel in the mammogram machine. Very harmfull to the eyes these mammogram machines.
I would either be the best doctor or the worst doctor....
[deleted] ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 03:12:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, you're not dumb. You're just misinformed. To simplify, if God is good, he does not do bad things, correct? Remember Eden? Because humanity disobeyed and rejected God, we live in a fallen, imperfect Earth.
So, it follows that this is clearly not heaven. We are, then, separated from God because of the events in the garden.
Continuing, if God is good and this world has fallen, then it's sort of a battleground, correct? Obviously extremely simplifying it, but that's the gist. God does not do evil, so it's something of our own creation--or some would say Satan.
StGerGer ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, most - not all - Christian sects (or at least Christians) say that everything happens as a part of God's plan. And to be fair, from a Christian perspective it might make sense, since God knows everything and knows what will happen in the future and is capable of changing the future since he is omnipotent, so clearly everything must be part of his plan.
That's just what I learned as a Christian though. It's definitely different in other branches
[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 05:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christian here: It's strange. My view is that God has the power to stop bad things from happening but allows them to happen for an ultimate result that could be hundreds or thousands of years down the line. But we as humans are his tools and since he gave us intelligence, WE NEED TO USE IT FOR FUCKS SAKE. He wants us to get stuff checked and deal with problems USING OUR HEADS and have the faith that he will AID us through crisis. Keyword: AID.
tangent: I have no idea where the whole "inappropriate language is a sin" teaching came from. I've never run into it in the Bible and i'm almost positive it's a weird extrapolation from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount where he taught not to use the Lord's name in vain but I have no idea where that leap of logic came from.
Could not agree more. We were given the ability to reason and to learn! I say this all the time. God has more important shit to do than to cure you of your headache. Just take a fucking Tylenol!
Preface: no judgement, just an answer to your question.
Pretty sure it's from one possible interpretation of Eph 5:4. But linguistically, it's talking more about making jokes about sexual matters, not bad language. In some of his letters, Paul actually uses expletives to drive his point home. I think a decent argument would be that using bad language isn't necessarily the most flattering or wise choice (i.e pay attention to who you are doing it in front of, or in what context). But I also don't think it's necessarily "wrong".
If we're gonna go very far down the bib interp road, another argument could be made that doing anything in front of someone who would be offended is wrong as is described in Romans 14:13-15. But I understand if you got off this particular train before getting this far. I just happened to be revisiting the interpretation papers I wrote in grad school recently and it was on my mind haha.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:45:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fully agree, and I think I can answer the second bit.
When you swear, it is usually just an adjective, adverb, whatever. When you're cursing something or someone--wishing horrible things on them--I think you can probably see why people discouraged that and got overeager with the extent of enforcement.
TL;DR: not healthy to hold hate in your heart. Context fucking matters :P
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see, that makes some sense. Thank you.
Andy0132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed - God gave us minds that we may use them. Otherwise, why would we have them to begin with? We need to use our own heads, and fix our own shit.
nemo_sum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calvinism in particular holds with predestination: that the course for everything is set, and we're living through a movie that's already been storyboarded, to use a rough analogy. A lot of Evangelical Protestant Churches are in the Calvinistic tradition, and they also (see the name) tend to be very outspoken. But more liturgical Christian sects, such as Lutheranism, Anglicanism, Catholicism, Methodism, and Presbyterianism have more nuanced views on theodicy (the question at hand, why evil is tolerated by a loving God).
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dankvtec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you believe the bible is the divinely inspired word of God, written as he intended
Easily one of the biggest problems with Christianity, I feel like we would have a much better understanding of the Bible and God if we realized that the Bible wasn't written by God or divinely inspired by him. Also we have to take into account historical context and language.
I think the most important thing about this though is that when we look at verses like this we have to compare and contrast it to what Jesus himself said. "Love your neighbour as yourself" and "Turn the other cheek" are two statements that Jesus made that contradict so much of the stuff found in the OT. No wonder the Jews wanted to kill him.
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it funny that you've only been to churches where they don't teach about exegesis. I've only been to a few churches in my life, most of them on the conservative Protestant side. Even the conservative ones had some form of exegesis, although it didn't go to deep, one very "liberal" theologian I met was definitely against the idea of the Bible being divinely inspired. Said it was a crock of shit to believe that, he still treated the Bible as sacred, but he didn't believe it was divinely inspired.
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt you would find anything enlightening at a megachurch lol... and wtf is "wealth ministry"? Is that some modern equivalent of the Protestant work ethic?
I've actually considered switching to a more traditional church for some of these reasons, although I don't really agree with all the things they may preach (such as the Catholic church) I think there's some strength in tradition that you don't find in the thousands of small, relatively new Protestant denominations.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:27 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Church was basically self resassurance for rich people? Damn that sounds shitty. For the record, I don't think it's impossible for a rich guy to get into heaven, I'm a universalist and I believe errybody gets to go to heaven but I do believe being rich can have its own difficulties when you're trying to emulate the life of Christ. Jesus wasn't just poor he was an outcast of society, something that the members of that church you're talking about were neither of.
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:57 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me right now I'm having trouble reconciling Jesus' nonviolent beliefs with the rest of the religion and real life. The world has just stopped making sense to me. Jesus is this guy who created the earth, came down to save us by showing us there is a better way (nonviolence and love apparently) and then fucking back off to heaven. First of all, (I know it's a tired question) but why create such a world full of evil? And second, how is nonviolence going to help me when I'm in danger or worse yet, my family is? Imagine all the Christian lands were invaded by extremist Muslims and they were committing genocide left and right, raping every woman they find and laying waste to our buildings, our culture, our institutions and every single thing about our world? What the hell would nonviolence do in that situation when your sons are being murdered and your daughters are being raped by strangers?
Then again, as far as I can tell this world has little purpose anyways, if I want a perfect God then I simply can't have a logical world, as if anyone could pretend it's logical to begin with.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:45 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:09:25 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The super liberal (idk what other word to describe him as) theologian I mentioned taught me what he thought was the reason Jesus decided to come and die on earth. Jesus basically wanted to show us the better way of living by living it himself and ultimately die by it. The crucifixion wasn't atonement for our sins, rather it was an example for us. Despite the power Jesus held (coulda called legions of angels to fuck up the Romans) he said "I forgive you". From this starting point, the theologian bases all of his other beliefs on that. In his viewpoint everyone goes to Heaven because God forgives all of us, God's nonviolence becomes central to pretty much everything about this guys theology.
Therefore, God doesn't really need to test us, he doesn't need to make our lives hard for the sake of who gets to go to heaven for two reasons. The first reason is that we're already going to heaven. The second is that God wouldn't purposely harm anyone because he's nonviolent.
What you said about Jesus preaching meekness so as to avoid persecution by the Romans is interesting. I've never really thought of him as shrewd like that. It's extra difficult when there's really no way to be certain. Sometimes I feel like it would have been easier to have been one of Jesus disciples despite the persecution because at least you would have seen the miracles and have been sure he was legit.
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:45 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been to Alliance churches my whole life (save for my few experiences with the theologian I mentioned) and the word theology was hardly mentioned. I went to a Christian school that was partially funded by the Alliance church the school was attached to kindergarten through grade 12. Pretty standard Protestant evangelical stuff such as quoting Bible verses and interpreting them however you want to, bad worship songs and bad worship bands.
What stood out to me in my religious life much more were the Bible camps I attended as a kid. There were two chapels a day, one in the morning and one at night. Occasionally the night chapel was held outodoors by a bonfire with amphitheatre like seating (reading about the Nuremberg rallies reminded me of this lol) and the pastor/speaker was this very energetic and emotional guy. He only preached doom and gloom, said we were all destined for hell. Said it wasn't enough to just accept Christ into your heart and have faith, because faith without deeds was dead. So here was this young guy who was able to relate to all the young campers because he was a cool dude, jumping around yelling and almost crying about how we were all going to hell because even the love of God wasn't enough to get us in. It kept me questioning for a long long time whether or not my faith was "alive" because I had no idea if my "deeds" were enough.
Then I learned all about that stuff that theologian told me. I'm still split as to what I should believe.
Cryzgnik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:28:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if he is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, then, why did he allow the events to happen in the garden of eden? How is there conflict? Clearly the christian god can't be omnipotent and omnibenevolent if there's conflict between him and satan.
Do most Christians believe that God has a plan? Of course. Does it extend to what you're going to cook for dinner, or whether or not you should seek valid medical treatment? Of course not.
It's like the old joke:
A great flood comes, and a devout man climbs on to the roof of his house. He prays fervently to God to rescue him.
Along comes a man in a rowboat, who offers the believer a ride, but the believer declines, citing his faith on God. The rain continues, and the flood continues to rise.
Then comes a man in a fishing boat, who offers to save the believer. The water is higher now, nearly covering the roof of the house, but again the believer declines, assured that God will save him.
The water continues to rise, leaving only the very crest of the roof above the surface. The man prays with all of his might, and a helicopter appears overhead. They throw down a rope ladder, but the man refuses to board. Soon after, the water rises too high, and he is swept away and drowns.
When judgment comes, the man is quite perturbed. "Lord," he cries, "I prayed to you to deliver me from the flood, and I truly believed that you would. Was my faith not string enough? Why did you forsake me?"
God shakes his head. "My son," he speaks solemnly, "I sent you two boats and a helicopter. What else would you have me do?"
Most people mellow out after busting a nut, no big revelation there.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of letting that idea "open up the notion" that prior to Christ God wasn't all good, perhaps it's an indication that the Bible isn't "correct" all the time. Not saying either of us are right or wrong but whenever I see someone quote a verse from the OT I think theres a 90% chance they have no clue what they're talking about.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is open to interpretation, but the more information you have the better your interpretation will be. Also you need a backbone to fall back on in your ideology. For me, this is what Jesus says himself specfically, such as "Love your neighbor as yourself". If I find someone teaching something that doesn't fall in line with that, I tend to disagree with them.
just out of curiosity, how would quoting the actual book, just as its done in sermons throughout all Christian denominations each week, imply that someone doesn't know what they are talking about.
dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I were to pull a quote out of Mein Kampf, with no context about it's historical significance or who wrote it and only gave half the sentence and then tried to argue that Mein Kampf is about racial tolerance, I would be completely stupid. A lot of sermons I've listened to, pastors tend to quote verses without giving any context as to what it means in the specific book it's written in, let alone the historical context or anything that could give us a clue about what that specific passage is actually trying to say.
trey3rd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:39:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But doesn't god kill shitloads of people in the bible?
I was not raised Christian and was just under this impression because it's the belief of the prevailing denomination near me. Thank you for the reasonable and informative response.
This explains so much! I used to live in the Southern US. During that time I have some medical issues and needed a surgery on my cervix. My female coworkers we're shocked that I went to a female OBGYN, which really confused me.
WifeyP ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Southerner, born and raised, I have serious trouble believing you.
I've never heard anyone as much as insinuate going to a doctor the same sex as you for gynological care was anything close to gay. In fact, I've had a couple friends ask me about who I go to because she's female and they thought their teenage daughters might be more comfortable with another woman for their first check up and they've heard me mention my gyno and how awesome she is.
Maybe they were just shocked you found a female gyno? In my area, most are male. I had to specifically search for a female one. (Just a personal preference, nothing against male gynos)
If that wasn't the case then I daresay you probably misunderstood them. Not saying there's not someone back-water enough to believe it, just saying it's totally NOT a Southern thing like you seem to be implying.
You're right, I should have clarified more, because in no way did I think this was a "southern" thing. It was just me living in a new part of the country. Also, I mention that these were my coworkers (not friends), but they were very religious. This is why it was also like "aha!" I grew up in the northeast, and honestly, people aren't very religious up here.
Thank you for saying this! I read that comment and thought, holy hell, is this what people generalize and think about the "Southern US"?? Which, in itself, is a pretty ridiculously broad term
WifeyP ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, Reddit loves to shit on the South. Half the time the stuff I read isn't even true, or isn't true anymore and it's painfully obvious that the person that typed it hasn't set foot down here in decades for more than the Christmas holidays or something. I fight that kinda thing when and where I find it.
Edit: Story Time: I got banned from /r/offmychest last year for debating the statement that "the entire South," is still full of racist pricks. And by "debating" I mean I made one comment where I pointed out that not all of us are and that blanket statements like that are never accurate and are really harmful. Then, the moderator whose comment I was replying to (and who made that ridiculous blanket statement) banned me. I messaged him asking why I was banned as I was neither in violation of their rules nor being hateful and I recieved a mute.
I think it's safe to say he was butt hurt that someone stood up to him about it.
Okay, u/WifeyP and u/dal_segno, I had never heard of r/offmychest until this post, and decided to check it out. Anyway, I stumbled across this gem.
I read it, and was kinda shocked because from the OPs story, I inferred that the OP was being really possessive and controlling of their friend. That's why they were being ghosted. They mention how in the last month of the friendship they asked everyday what was wrong, but OPs friend never told OP. If I had a friend asking me everyday what was wrong with our friendship, I would be a little creeped out/feel suffocated. OP says "I'm not in love with you" and even wonders if the ghosting is because of OPs "obsessive" personality. And then all the comments were supportive of OP!
This just creeped me out, and I wanted to share, cause when I read this post and the follow-up comments I felt like I was in an alternate universe.
WifeyP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:40 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think it's just a whole bunch of special snowflake types...
I had never looked at TiA until you posted this. Mind you, I am left leaning and am pro social justice. But looking at this sub made me cringe. And the irony is that this word shit is written by people privileged enough to afford fancy liberal arts schools where they can study some obscure major because mom and dad just wants their brilliant child to follow their heart and not worry about future employment so they set the kid up with a trust fund and all this education does is teach them big academic words that they can string together to make a rather incoherent statement. That's my rant.
I agree - I lean pretty left socially, but a lot of the things TiA highlights really just make a mockery of any actual social justice movement. You start preaching equality of social/fiscal opportunity and mobility, and 'outsiders' immediately lump you in with the people who insist that they're mayonnaise-gendered transdisabled astral polecats.
It's frustrating - I feel like some or even a lot of them have their hearts in the right place, but they make it hard for people to take anyone more level-headed seriously. A group is judged by its loudest, most extreme members, after all.
Heh. Well. I think the issue was my sister actually touching boobies. It was probably deemed unecissary by this genius who thought it could all be taken care of with a mammogram.
Wasn't that an m night shamilan movie? "Crazy woman gives birth in the woods?"
I'm a paramedic and recently transported an idiot who self presented to the local hospital, who found he was having a heart attack (stemi) and needed him sent to a bigger hospital for treatment.
During my assessment I asked him how long he'd been having chest pain. On and off for twelve months, he tells me.
Any family history? (One of the biggest indicators). Oh, yes. Dad died of a heart attack. Brother died of a heart attack. Both of them first presentation, stone dead on the spot, no fucking about.
So... you have a 12 month history of intermittent chest pain, and a family history of your closest male relatives spontaneously chucking hearties and dying, and you've never got it investigated. Further more, the only reason you came to the hospital tonight is because your family badgered you into it.
I told him he needed a solid kick in the arse. To his credit, he agreed.
Dexxt ยท 438 points ยท Posted at 23:08:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loads of people are like this though as they tell themselves it's nothing and get on with their lives in the hope it goes away.
Instead of hypo-chondria you get hyper-chondriacs who despite evidence to the contrary think they're healthy.
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 23:33:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if I've already had my chest pains examined and I've been told they're fine but sometimes I get concerned by the fact that I'm ignoring persistent chest pains.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:54:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a second opinion. I got my heart checked out because I experience severe nausea and dizziness when I work out, but I didn't get it on that particular day i was checked.
Then I had a heart monitor for a day but I didn't work out with it.
I don't believe them when they say I'm fine. My grandfather had a heart condition and my uncle recently had complications.
Precordial catch probably. There are horror stories yes, but if you're prone to hypochondria, go with the experts every time. Especially if you had a second opinion already because the moment you doubt your doctor is the moment you go down a rabbit hole you'll never get out of. Society is based on trust. From the bridges we drive over to the painted toys we give to our children.
Holy shit, I have been trying to figure out what it is for years.
blotto5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:39:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I found out about it through reddit a couple years ago too. It's very hard to search for because literally everywhere you go, chest pain = heart attack.
Taedirk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Precordial catch
Fuck those things.
rouxdane ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:00:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people have angina, which is chest pains that resolve with rest. Some people live their entire life with these pains. If your cardiologist hasn't done a stress test I would consider asking for one. Not always a definite indicator but it is a great resource.
Source: I'm a Clinical Exercise Physiologist in cardiac rehab.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The diagnosis was costochondritis. I'm 30 year old female.
rouxdane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the heck did you do that? Do you do repetitive movements with your upper extremities? Last time I saw costocondritis was in a butcher.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't afford to pay for it, the only option you have left is hope it's nothing.
Apkoha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or you know.. People just don't like going to the doctor and that's not going to change because you decide to give it away. I know many people who just hate going to the doctor even fully covered, myself included.
AVVIT ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only this but... I have been to the hospital and ER more than my fair share of times. Accident prone and a general idiot. But the number of times I have been and been given the o'l "you are wasting our time look" is ridiculous. Had to argue with a DR that I had issues with my heart untill she took my blood pressure and she went pale and admitteded "there might be an issue" another time was for a broken hand. I was asked when the accident happend, "yesterday" DR: oh well if it was really broken you would have already come in, it won't be broken but I guess we will have to x ray you while you here SIGH que shocked dr when my hand is smashed to bits. The reason I don't go to the hospital much for issues with my health is the attitude I get from drs and nurses here in the UK it's all get um in and out as fast as possible and choose the easiest thing to fix quick to get rid of them. The NHS is free but damn it's flawed. If I could afford I would go private everyday of the week !!!
Dexxt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:14:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I agree! The NHS is great in principle but in practice it's a different t matter.
Last Christmas I fell on my arm and genuinely thought I'd dislocated my elbow I was in that much pain. I went to A&E, had an x-ray and got told nothing was wrong and to go home and sleep on it even though I was nearly passing out every time I moved my arm. Went the following morning to a different A&E and an MRI showed I had completely ruptured the ligaments and required surgery. Still waiting on a surgery date 12 months later...
I also find the docs are really condescending when it's a sports injury. Like it's somehow worse that I (nearly) snapped my ankle running but it's OK if someone has a heart attack from spending the last decade sat on the sofa in front of the TV.
My Mother is the Queen of self diagnosing. She has a book from 1987-95, somewhere in that range. Has used the internet twice in her life, with my guidance. So basically she's never used the internet. Refuses to believe anything written online, it's "evil," all lies, fake stories. Instead relies on outdated text, and has a new disease, sometimes two a day. I have the disease rotation down pretty good. She also has some sort of knee problem, causing her to walk with an extremely over-done limp. Depending on her mood, it changes. She's terrified of MRI's for absolutely no reason, I've yet to hear why. Has said for the last 7 years she's going to schedule an appointment, but never does. Works 1-2 hours a day, so obviously she doesn't have the time to go in, (according to her.) If she gets a light scratch, she monitors it 24/7, and is convinced she has some sort of flesh eating bacteria. I work with sharp metal, and get nasty cuts all the time, but they'll never compare with her barely noticeable microscopic scratches. The biggest problem is we've gotten so used to this, we really can't gauge just how serious something is, due to the fact she apparently always has something. So if something severe were to happen, we'd take it the same way we take everything else. But, hands down, by far the biggest problem, (my self diagnosis for her,) she no doubt is bi-polar. I love her, and always will, she's my mother. But it's borderline impossible to have a normal day. I feel as if I'm walking on eggshells, all day long. My father wont admit it, but i know he feels the same. A small example, to get a little idea. She has a tea-cup, placed upside down on the counter-top. If any object from the kitchen, (that my father or I,) place within a foot of her cup, ohh boy. Better leave the house for the next 4 hours. She will rant/cry/yell, for hours on end. Bringing up unrelated thing from the past, just to continue yelling. A carton of Milk can be 1 foot away from her cup, but no. To her, a dirty disgusting carton of milk is touching her tea-cup, her day is completely ruined. This is one of the minor examples, one of hundreds. Simply put, her mood swings are insane. People say, have her go to the doctor, get help for it. I just laugh. She refuses to go to the doctor for almost everything. And you know how you just know somebody, in a way nobody else could understand? There is absolutely no way, noooo way, you could ever get my mother to a doctor, to check her mental health. And even if I did, she is completely against any type of pill. Even over-the-counter medicine. Overall, it's a tough situation.
Wow, this is unreal. I'd call this an edit, but it's not a true, "go back and edit." As I was at the tail end of my paragraph, I hear an, "OHH MY GOD, OHHH MYYY GOD," coming from the kitchen. I finished off the last of a half gallon of milk an hour ago, rinsed the carton, and placed it at the end of the counter. (We take recyclables out in the morning, or daylight you could say.) She literally did the exact thing I used as my example, I knew right away what she was yelling about. Somehow, in some miraculous miracle, after my 9th apology, she actually accepted, for the first time in as long as I can remember, and returned to bed. I'm beyond shocked.
clankton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap. This sounds heavy. Are you able to talk to anyone about this? It sounds like you live with her still and that can't be easy.
Thanks for the response! Yes, I do live with her. She holds me back a good amount. Not physically obviously, but in her manipultive* (spelled wrong i know haha,) ways. I've talked with friends about it here and there, but it goes nowhere. It causes an extreme amount of stress though, that's for sure. It's sad, I'm so used to it, but it's gotten worse year after year.
vizard0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird because I am kind of both of these things. I think I might have a lot of different stuff, however I gate going to the doctors so I would never go. I mostly just let things resolve themselves, but if anything was ever really wrong I'd like to think I would suck it up and go.
296milk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone avoids the doctor cause no one wants to foot a $500 bill if they're just going to be given some OTCs.
Dexxt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure that's a big factor for a lot of people. But even in my country where we have universal healthcare in the NHS, people still out off going.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE FOR FUCKS SAKE
You feel strange you go to someone who has studied at least 10 years to get that white robe, fucking hell. You go in there and they do the fuck they want and then you go back home, see ya.
How can you not want this, America?
Dexxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even with free health care some people avoid going. Some people are just mentally not accepting that there could be something wrong with them.
MedicGirl ยท 2296 points ยท Posted at 22:16:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It just needed the phrase 'ya fackin drongo' to be 100%.
umatik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"After a night of skulling VB, pt chucked a heartie"
himym101 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the guy not getting treatment sounds so aussie too. old aussie men just like to pretend to be macho and refuse to get help for anything. My grandfather said she'll be right to literally everything until one day my grandmother drove him to the doctor and kicked him out of the car.
Heart Attacks are known as ST-Elevation Myocardial Infarctions or Non ST-Elevation Myocardial Infarctions or just Myocardial Infarctions. We abbreviate them to STEMI, NonSTEMI, or MI.
We create a Tripsheet which is just documentation of our call: Procedures we did, medication we gave, vital signs, ect.
It's just the EMS version of a chart in a hospital.
Dr_Wong ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:07:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck man this feels like me to a tee. Both grandparents died from heart related issues, my dad has already had a heart attack and has 3 stents in, and my aunt also had a heart attack. I get mild chest pain from time to time and it makes me afraid I'm headed down the same path. And I'm also stubborn as fuck when it comes to seeing a doctor.
It's your health, matey, so you do what you like. No one is going to look after it for you though. I'd say you're better off being proactive now and managing your very legitimate concerns by talking to a doctor and having regular check ups. That way, if a problem does develop you can address it early. You'll also have a good history showing the trend of your health which will be of great benefit for your health care providers to give you the appropriate treatment.
But no one is going to make you do it. You decide if your ongoing health and wellbeing is worth the hassle of going to the doctor.
See your doctor - hopefully they'll refer you to a cardiologist if they think it sounds like cardiac pain. A heart attack is effectively a blockage of one of the arteries in your heart. The muscle doesn't get blood, so you get the pain and the muscle starts to die.
Based on your family history, it could be that you're having what's called angina. This is where one of the arteries is partially blocked, so sometimes, especially during exercise, you can have the pain because that area of muscle isn't getting enough blood and is struggling a bit.
Often, if a cardiologist finds that you've got a partial blockage then they can do things to stop it becoming a full blown heart attack. That could be stents, or more substantial surgery, but it means you get the benefit of the treatment without the muscle damage (and risk of death) of a full heart attack.
If you have the pain for more than 20mins at rest, or it's very severe, and/or you feel breathless with it, call an ambulance. If you don't want to, do not drive yourself, but go to the ED.
It's seriously better to address these things early, and hey, best case scenario is that there's nothing wrong and you have peace of mind.
tibtibs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please just go see a cardiologist. Caths are pretty routine and easy when you're having intermittent chest pain, not so easy when you have a chronic obstruction or are in the middle of a heart attack.
This kills me because I'm a medical student who has an exam tomorrow that covers something called 'zola's triggers' that describes almost exactly this - things like severity and duration of symptoms don't make people go to the doctors, but 'zola's triggers' do - one of which is being pressured by family!
I work in a cardiac cath lab that performs interventions on stemi's. This occurs way too often. It really makes your day when you start the procedure by coding the patient on the table because they decided to finish out their workday rather than immediately come to the hospital.
tibtibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree. Or being called in on there weekend for an nstemi where the prox circ is shut down and after the procedure the patient asks "on a scale of 1-10 how bad was this?" "Well sir, if you hadn't have come in when you did, you most definitely would have been in here in a couple hours ruining our day by possibly dying on the table."
drdenjef ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:37:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i had panic attacks as a child...quite frequently. It got better as i grew older but i didn't know what it was back then. Apparently my das hade a few when he was young and so did my grandpa. Anyways i had them much more, and when i came out of bed and complained about it i got yelled at to go back to bed or else they would bind me to the bed (pretty sure he didn't mean that part). So now i have the tendency that everytime i feel pain somewhere or something feels wrong, to just shut up and hope it goes away.
Oh, I had very similar experience growing up. Being told I couldn't have a panic attack until after I finished my homework... because I was curled up on the floor in the basement for fun.
About 2 years ago, I started having chest pain and trouble breathing. Heart problems, high blood pressure on both sides of family. My uncle had a heart attack at the start of the year (drove himself to the hospital, thought he was getting better and almost drove back home), even. This pain went on for a few days for me, difficulty breathing getting worse when lying down by the end of it, before finding a doctor and scheduling an appointment (idiot, I know).
Turned out I was the healthiest I had ever been, on any test they ran. Best explanation they could give is that panic attacks were giving me heart attack symptoms. They couldn't do anything to help. Such a relief (except very much not).
I definitely hope those heart issues skipped a generation, because there's no chance I won't just think the pain is imagined and ignore it.
drdenjef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ow damn...feelsbadman :/ weirdly enough, i also often have chest pain en pain when i breath, or my heart skips a beat and stuff... But i don't know of any hearth problems in my family, so i hope i am having the same as you. Anyways, i wish you all the best.
Oh, man. Can you read that outloud to me? As Jeremy Irons?
Noah-R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get how people with a history of heart disease always happen to be the same people with the stick-it-out-and-don't-bother-anyone-else-with-your-pain attitude. Natural selection just doesn't explain it...
FGHIK ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:49:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the majority of human history, it really didn't matter. Even if they somehow knew it was an issue, there wasn't shit you could do about it.
Self presented, attend the hospital themselves rather than being brought in by ambulance.
First presentation of any illness is the first time it becomes symptomatic. In this case, the first time his father and brother had chest pain it was a heart attack serious enough to kill them quickly. They had no opportunity to have it investigated and receive treatment. This guy's first presentation of chest pain was 12 months ago and he did nothing about it. I suspect, based on his description of it, that he was having angina, which is a bit of a warning sign and so because of his family history he's lucky he didn't just drop dead like the others.
My grandpa had chest pain for 3 days before finally going to the hospital (and subsequently dying). His dad had died in a hospital so I'm told he was basically associating a hospital with the place you go to die. I also think that he thought if he was dying, he wanted it to be in his own bed.
dbelow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad had a heart attack 16 years ago while trying to ski with all of his brothers. All the signs, loss of strength, going pale, chest pains etc. He just goes and sits on the shore for the res of the day and we go out to red lobster(now known in our family as dead lobster) for dinner and he was feeling sick to his stomach afterwards.
The next morning we were all worried when my dad ask my mom to drive his brand new truck all the way back to Ohio from Louisiana. He went back to work where he had another minor heart attack we think, and two weeks later my mom badgered him in to going to see the doctor. For reference my dad doesn't smoke,rarely drinks, eats healthy, and had no fat on his body. The docs and nurses were joking with him thinking it was just a minor blockage. I forget the name of the test that determines the blockages in his arteries, but when the Indian doc came out, my mom said he was paler than she was. My dad had 4 blockages that ranged from 80-95% and the worse one was in the left-main known as the widow maker. He recovered fine and my mom still jokes that the only reason he is still alive is because he is dumb to have died.
When my grandfather had a stroke it took my grandma, one of daughters, and my dad to finally convince him to go to the hospital. He was slurring words and everything and didn't want to go. My dad had to threaten to call an ambulance and have the paramedics take him by force before he finally let my dad drive him there.
He lived many years after that stroke and thankfully suffered little damage. But old people can be so stubborn sometimes.
My crew was called to a clinic for man with chest pain, it was my barber, I knew he smoked.
In asking, what meds are you on? None, Nothing?, nope. Ever have a heart attack? no.
Five minutes later, Ever have chest pains before? Yes. When? When I had my heart attack. You said you never had one, when did you have it. A few years back. Do you have high blood pressure? Yes. Take anything for it? Yes, some BP medicine.
Few days later ran into him coming out of a pharmacy, where he was getting Viagra.
To be fair, if you don't have medical insurance, it's easy to get into the mindset of, "Medical care would be nice, but I just can't afford it.". You wait and hope it gets better, period. Unless you're actively bleeding to death or in so much pain you can't function, you tough it out.
I'm an EMT... this reminds me of when I got called to the local Port of Entry for a semi-truck driver who collapsed while he was walking out of the door from having his log books checked. He was a large african-american man who had a family history of heart disease and diabetes... He was more concerned about getting back in his truck than going to the hospital and not dying... SMH
jhn107 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of my late husband. He was in CICU after a heart attack. Every time the chest pain returned, he asked for Maalox before he would take the nitro, even when the monitors were lighting up like pinball machines. The nurse complained to the cardiologist who I am certain has seen more than his far share of patients in denial. But he was kind enough to blame the morphine drip. And he changed the standing orders so she could give him Maalox every time she gave him nitro without having to call and ask.
ericchen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a similar vein, I once saw a guy with a known history of heart disease and positive for nearly every risk factor and he walked to the hospital at 3AM in the cold for 2+ hours with chest pain. His reason for not calling the ambulance? His cardiologist said exercise was good for the heart, so he figured he'd take that advice for the first time in years while having a STEMI.
fritopie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I told him he needed a solid kick in the arse. To his credit, he agreed.
My grandpa was pretty stubborn about going to the doctor. Then in his 50's he had a heart attack. After that, he stopped smoking. Cold turkey. Had smoked a pipe for decades. He went to regular appointments and any time he thought he was having chest pains, he was at the hospital. So hopefully your guy will take note like my grandpa (although he didn't have quite the warning your dude did, but still).
Lachwen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My pediatrician had to be badgered into seeing a doctor about his chest pains by his wife. Ended up needing a quadruple bypass.
He was a fantastic pediatrician. But I've heard many times that doctors, even the really good ones, have a tendency to not get their own health issues checked out like they should.
Shinkaru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:26:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends all poke fun at me for being 32 and seeing a cardiologist for no "good" reason at all. I have a family history of heart attacks going back 4 generations, not all of which were due to poor diet/weight/exercise (arguably only 1). After my dad had his, his doc told me I needed to see a cardiologist when I turned 30.
I give no shits what my stupid friends say. I go once a year anyway, my cardiologist was really stoked he got to work with someone on prevention. He told me he could count on one hand the number of times someone has come to him before there was a problem.
This will be me. The men in my family kick off in late 50s early 60s. We have a running joke that one of us has to live long enough to get our money back from Uncle Sam.
I actually know what they die of, genetic condition. Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. My brother has it, got a pacemaker in mid 30s. I have some symptoms but haven't gotten it checked out yet. Despite knowing the risk/history, somehow I just don't worry about it all that much? Hard to explain.
Echo tech here. I really wish this was less common than it is. Especially when I'm doing their echo and they have an EF of 20% complaining about how their old lady hounded him enough to come in. Yeah, thank your lucky stars for your "old lady", dude.
You don't sound like you have good bedside manner. You probably come off as intimidating to most of your patients. Have a good think about your approach and how it could be perceived. Particularly think about your own judgment of patients (e.g. "idiots") and how that's impacting on your ability to provide care. There are ways to even out the apparent discrepancy of power in hospital systems, but taking it out on patients is not one.
Come on mate. There's a big difference between actually interacting with a patient and writing up the anecdote in an amusing manner.
The guy's an idiot because he did an idiotic thing. That doesn't make him a bad person, but it was bloody silly to ignore it and he acknowledged it himself by the time he was in my truck.
Yes, I actually told him he needed his arse kicked. In Australia that's a common and mild reprimand, and it is absolutely possible to say that when you establish a good rapport with the patient and they understand where you're coming from. With an hour and a half transport time I was joking around with him the whole time. You don't really have enough information to judge my bedside manner from one story.
I judged based on the facts presented. It would be foolish to make assumptions and base a judgment off of that. The extra information shows it was just a bit of banter between you two, which is actually very good. Patients are people, and you acknowledged that. You're a good paramedic.
Thanks! I'm totally gonna start using this. Gotta work on my Aussie accent tho.
Mygaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone to the doctor maybe 3 times in the last 15 years...
Joint pain, full body pain in general, depression, weight gain, etc all the things that would say thyroid issue (which also runs in the family.. which I found out after)
Panic attack so severe I called 911.... Since the panic attack constant heart palpitations "lose of breath", etc.
I forget the 3rd one... had to do with those 2 issues I think for a checkup.
I'm 100% completely healthy, blood tests, xrays, heart tests, or whatever all perfect. I need to lose 80 lbs, but I'm allegedly perfectly healthy otherwise... P E R F E C T L Y fine.
I just don't bother going to doctors anymore.
Hopko682 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people are just happy to remain ignorant, he probably didn't want to deal with the reality of what was happening to him.
That being said, he's a damn fool.
Moara7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, that sounds more like a coping mechanism for deep fear, than it does being ill informed.
He probably knows all he needs to know logically about heart attacks, buy he's had two loved ones go to the hospital and not come back, so emotionally he cant go to the er until he's ready to die.
udenizc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-So, you have a history of unstable angina, several family members dead from IHD, a history of DM and hypertension for which you stubbornly refuse to take your medication and you've been smoking a pack a day for 20 years?
I once saved my roommate's girlfriend's idiot life who should also have known better.
One morning, I was at the table on the computer and my roommate was on the couch in the living room. She wandered in and mentioned offhand to my roommate that she'd woken up that morning with one leg like swollen and purple.
I immediately looked up from my computer. "You mean like deep vein thrombosis?"
She was like, no, she didn't think so. I asked her to show me, but the leg was so swollen by this point she couldnt get her pants off, so she showed me a photo she'd taken in the bathroom mirror right after she woke up instead. Yep, one leg is VISIBLY larger than the other and nearing eggplant purple.
Me and my roommate immediately insist that she go to the ER. She keeps waving it off and is like no, it's fine, I made an appointment at the acupuncturist this afternoon. Now, I do believe acupuncture works for certain conditions, but usually chronic neurological ones, not IMMEDIATELY LIFE THREATENING CIRCULATORY THREATS!!
In trying to convince her to do something about it, I start taking an impromptu medical history. I ask her if theres any history of clotting disorders in her family. She thinks for a moment and is like, "No, my family tends to have really low blood pressure actually. Although my grandma died of a stroke. And my mom had a minor stroke a few years ago. And then she also had a leg clot sometime last year...."
Thank god I'm not a doctor cause I was this close to punching the idiot woman. Kicker in all this? She has an MBA from Harvard Business School. HARVARD. But then, as I've gotten older, I've learned there's a special class of intelligent people who think that just because they're intelligent in one area of life, then their limited knowledge and opinions in all other areas of life must be equally as valid.
Anyway, conclusion of the story is we finally convinced her to go to urgent care at least, who took one look at her and sent her to a damn ER. She was admitted, and after some scans and exploratory surgery they found a blood clot in her leg seventeen inches long. The doctors apparently described it as a, quote, "blood sausage."
People are way too good at deluding themselves. I lost an elderly friend to cervical cancer - she'd had symptoms for years that she convinced herself were arthritis.
Despite six of her seven siblings dying of some reproductive cancer or another, she'd never had a pap smear in her life and only went to the doctor at her daughter's insistence. Once she got the diagnosis she just curled up and refused to acknowledge it. Stubborned herself to death, the old mare :(
Thing is, there's a lot of stigma about hypochondriacs, so it sometimes feels like we're supposed to just ignore little niggling things. Regarding a bizarre growth on my skin I was told it was harmless and the tone was as if I was wasting their time. That's great to know, and I'm sorry I didn't come with a life-threatening disease.
Regarding my twisted finger I was literally told that "with age you get deformities normally". Yeah, well I'm in my early 30s and that twist didn't happen with age, it happened rock climbing. I'm pretty sure I'm stuck with a deformed finger now because on further research it seems like the short period after injury is critical if you want to fix it.
It really makes it easy to get burnt out on medical practitioners and wonder if it's even worth it. Honestly, I see the same attitude in a lot of doctors that I see in your typical lazy office worker, just trying to pass the day with minimum effort. Despite the fact they're dealing with peoples lives.
I have panic attacks. But I also have a family history of people dying young of heart attacks. It makes it annoying whenever I have chest pain and shortness of breath. I always go to the hospital because of my family history, but it's been panic attacks each time so far :/
zop_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this in Napa, CA by chance? This sounds like a friend of mine...
I'm an overweight male in his late 20's who smokes and has a family history of heart attacks. I worry every time I have pains in and around my chest due to this. Doctors have said it's probably just muscle aches since my BP is on the low end of elevated when I'm at their office, and because I've never had any other symptoms simultaneously.
Coincidentally, chest pains only occur when I overwork my arms.
Funnily enough, this is remarkably similar to my own family history. Looking forward to my next 50 years.
tibtibs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a cath lab nurse, this is too common. People putting off coming in for months or weeks and just letting the damage get worse. Or, they wait until it's too late and end up coding on our table because their entire left system is shut down.
Probably out of fear. My old roommate had to move out to have surgery for a congenital cardiomyopathy due to a connective tissue disorder. He told me his brother refuses to get checked out even though most of the men in his family have died of heart attacks fairly young.
RL24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How small does a hospital have to be in order to not treat heart attacks? Isn't that one of the most common legit reasons to go to the ER? It's a serious question.
A small regional hospital can treat a heart attack. If you walk in off the street you'll get treatment to stabilise you and slow the progression of the illness. However, you'll probably need surgery to fix the problem and stop it once and for all.
For that you need a cath lab. Cath labs are expensive with lots of specialist staff and equipment. Therefor they're only going to be built in larger population areas.
The small regional hospital does what it can to prevent the patient dying there and then, and then ships them off for definitive treatment.
RL24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aha! Thanks for the explaination!
tibtibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that they don't treat them. They have typical protocol that have to follow to stabilize and get them to a hospital that has a cath lab. They have a door to balloon time to still hit of 90 minutes. Meaning that once they recognize that the patient is having a heart attack, they have 90 minutes to transfer the patient to a hospital with a cath lab and the cath lab to balloon the artery causing the issue.
RL24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got it. Thanks!
wolfej4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See now I can sympathize with the idiot, and by proxy makes me an idiot and I'm willing to accept that.
My dad's brother died in 2010 to a heart attack. My grandpa, my dad's dad, died in 2011 to a heart attack. And my dad, again due to a heart attack, died in 2013.
There was one time before my dad passed where I had some discomfort on my left side of my chest and I thought it was heart problems and I got worried. My dad offered to take me to the ER on base (dad was Air Force) to have it checked but I said no.
This year, now that I'm 24 and now that I have insurance (thank you Florida Blue), I'm taking it way more seriously than I should have.
adhdnd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Half the people on my dad's side of the family, both his parents families, have died of brain aneurysms. Nobody told me and my brother this until I was 28 and he was 23. To put it kindly, some people just don't think about it.
To be fair a lot of people are raised to not go to the doctor unless its super clear that they have to go. Its just too fucking expensive to go and find out its gas.
Patients can not know whether something is serious or not. That's your job. It's a dilemma. If you visit a doctor with something benign you'll be laughed at and "waste" money. If you google your symptoms they'll laugh at you too or worse. People who don't like that will just wait until something becomes and immediate emergency. You should never mistreat a patient no matter what your opinion on the patient is. It causes damage. You should also never send patients home without a plan. If you ignore a patient's symptoms two things will happen in the long run: 1) patient starts to self-medicate 2) patient switches doctors. Everybody has chest pain from time to time. What's the limit that makes it okay to visit a doctor? 2ร a month, 4ร, 8ร? How is a patient supposed to know that? Also with too vague symptoms GPs send you home and tell you to come back if it perists which to a patient feels like wasted money and the patient is now likely to wait until it becomes and immediate emergency.
Jrsplays ยท 2042 points ยท Posted at 23:37:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad's answer(I am not a doctor): My dad had to tell a patient that they were not pregnant. The patient was male.
I filled out 17 pages of symptom questions on WebMD once, trying to diagnose this odd pain I had. The results came back ectopic pregnancy, which I hear is especially dangerous for men. Thank god for WebMD.
I-seddit ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 04:51:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hold on...
give me a sec.
got it.
you've got "network connectivity issues"
Why does everybody think that? In my experience it pretty much always has cancer and really unusual stuff as the least likely diagnosis, and the most likely diagnosis is almost always hay fever or something that just needs a heating pad and rest to treat. One time I was convinced I was dying because of my symptoms, and WebMD helped me figure out it wasn't anything serious, it was most likely just seasonal allergies or something. "Well, I guess my throat isn't red with white blotches, so I guess it's just a regular sore throat and not strep."
I've just never had it suggest anything like cancer as the top diagnosis except one time I was trying to put together some symptoms that indicated cancer, and even then, cancer wasn't even in the top 3 diagnoses.
I'll contact the make-a-wish foundation, and maybe start a gofundme page. I won't be beaten by this, I'm not giving up yet, not by a long shot!
Blaargg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WebMD also told me that panic attacks were very dangerous and could kill if not treated quickly. You know, the exact opposite of what someone having them should have read.
Once looked up my symptoms. First result, strep throat. Second result, anthrax. Within a few days it became very clear that I actually had hand, foot and mouth disease
I actually know of someone who made that complaint.
Actual story is less funny and more sad though. Guy is borderline mentally disabled and in prison.. other inmates would give him things in exchange for anal sex, one day they went with cheese. Like.. a lot of cheese. And for some reason they convinced him that he needed to eat it all right then and there.
So what does lots of cheese give you? One hell of a gut ache. Which he got, but didn't know from what. So the other inmates told him that after all the sex he'd had, he must be pregnant.
Poor guy had to go to a guard and ask to see the doctor.. now if you ask to see the doctor, they have to take you. But they also ask why. So when the guy said, conpletely seriously, that he was pregnant? Well... he got taken to the doctor, just not the one you'd expect.
I believe the guy was removed from prison and placed somewhere more suitable after that.
Remasa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side to that, I had a patient during rotations that wanted to ask the doctor about her prostate and if a certain medication she had seen on TV was right for her.
I hate direct-to-consumer advertising.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly related: I had some teeth removed from my face recently on two separate visits (had an extra tooth growing in my gums under my teeth so that was one, the other was my last 2 wisdom teeth (that, when the first 2 were removed I was told I would never need to get rid of them)) and even I filled out the form asking about medication changes or health changes and checked the "no" in the "breastfeeding (women only)" section to see if anyone said anything. They didn't notice until I asked if they noticed after they were done with the sheet.
Jrsplays ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another story is my Dad once had a woman come in with her son exclaiming "Them bugs got him!". The bugs in question were just little stickers of ladybugs that the boy had cut out and stuck to his legs.
Jrsplays ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I agreed to pick up my good friend's wife from her pregnancy sonogram. Driving home, the wife tells me she's surprised it's a girl because the last kid was a girl and "it's supposed to go 'boy-girl-boy-girl', right?"
ZoDeFoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:59 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personalities too.
1 and 2 were little guys.
3 was like an older sister to them.
4 was an older brother.
5 was a semi-managerial position
6 was also like an older sister, only older
7 was an alpha male
8 was more of a lone wolf but a role model for 4
9 was kinda like the older sibling off at college
I have two daughters, and I constantly have to fight my inclination to refer to badass animals as "he." It even feels weird when I make myself do it, like calling a T Rex or a shark or a bear"she."
Is she...special? I would be definitely turned off by someone stupid. Your friend must have some low standards...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a common misconception. Some people think that because you have a roughly 50% chance of having a baby of either sex, that it'll switch every time. People are silly.
My Aunty got as far as actually being in labour before she realised that having a baby hurts.
At age 32.
She kept arguing with the doctors and even made them call my mum cause she was convinced there was something wrong as "it shouldn't hurt THIS much!". There was nothing wrong at all. Everyone had to explain to her that yes, pushing a watermelon through a keyhole does hurt like a b!
As a paramedic, had a patient barricade his elderly mother and grandmother in the house, threatening to kill himself and them. Eventually he let them out, but still threatened to kill himself. We're all waiting outside, we actually have to park the ambulance a few blocks away until police declare the scene safe. PD calls us on the radio and tells us that they have the patient and we need to take him to the hospital. We drive up and hip out, and here's this 40 year old man in a bathrobe, with what looks like a papercut one the inside of one forearm. While calling the hospital to tell them we're on our way, I say "Patient has a very superficial cut on his left forearm." The patient hears me, and goes "What do you mean 'superficial'?" So I explained that it was a very shallow cut on his arm and that he'll be just fine. He says, "I'll be just fine?! I tried to kill myself! I cut my arm and then stopped when it started hurting, that's how I figured I did some damage!"
I'm bipolar and cut myself out of anger during an episode (brought on by my ex) and out of spite he called the police. I insisted I was not trying to kill myself (it was deep and definitely needed stitches bit obv not a suicide attempt) so they took me to the psych er in handcuffs and you have to stay in handcuffs in the waiting room until your processed. The nurse that came to look at me said it looked really bad, yet I didn't even get a bandage. And based on how it healed I should have definitely gotten stitches. Or at least anticeptic and a bandage. It didn't stop bleeding for hours.
So I'm only an EMT, but I want to weigh in here to this conversation.
I had to tell a patient with severe pneumonia (and the patient's family) that you don't get sick (i.e. catch a cold) by leaving your skin exposed. The family was vehemently debating me on the fact claiming that I had no idea what I was talking about because I'm not a doctor.
Attempting to explain to them the necessity for a foreign body to enter your system was the most preposterous thing to them.
Edit: I just want to say to everyone who flooded my inbox with wonderful sentiments regarding the work of EMTs and paramedics. That appreciation makes dealing with the seemingly inexorable chorus of professionals telling us (me) otherwise much easier.
waterRK9 ยท 2964 points ยท Posted at 20:02:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents always told me that the reason I got sick was because I wore t shirts to bed. Yes, mother, I got the flu because I exposed my forearms and hands as I slept, not because half the kids at my school were probably off dying from it.
imagine you have a brand new piece of paper, now imagine that your are holding it so the edge is taut, now imagine that edge is sliding through your peehole.
It's not for severely disabled kids, but IS called a papoose, and are carried on ambulances. Used to restrain kids that need treatment and are combative. Or to keep them from masturbating the way to the ER.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The photo is labeled wrong, but the device and similar ones are used for disabled children who actively try to hurt themselves or other people. Like the picture of the boy strapped to a toilet via a plastic chair that floats around the internet. By no means should any kid be left in either for an extended period of time, but if you have a sick kid in hospital who wants to yank out his IV/stiches/GI tube/etc, and you cannot communicate with each other, that's when these devices are used.
My dad used to lecture me about stuff like that as well. He says going to bed past nighttime cause health problems. I had a cough? It's because I don't sleep early. My wife's thyroid got trashed by her pregnancy? It's because we don't sleep early.
My dad's Asian (Pakistani), so he's also adamant about never, ever, ever, sleeping with your socks on. Apparently it gives you cancer or aids or whatever Asians believe socks do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know some people won't sleep with fans on for reason s like that
Dude my daughter is in 1st grade and every single time she gets a cold (or even just coughs once or twice within an hour), my grandma flies off the fucking handle and insists that I must have mold in my walls.
No, grandma. Kids get sick when they're in school, because they are surrounded by hundreds of other children and I guarantee you that at any given time a dozen of them are sick.
JustVern ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Grandmother would insist that if your head was wet, you catch your death of cold.
Anytime she saw me with fresh washed hair, straight out of the shower, she would run to me and immediately cover my head in underwear.
Yes. I'm alive today because my Gram had me spend half my childhood with underwear on my head.
Lucky me.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma lived in Hawaii, and every time I took a shower she made me blow-dry my hair because I would "catch a cold" in 80 degree weather, but we would go to the beach and/or pool every day and then walk around with wet hair and that was fine?
My mom makes up the craziest shit. The other day my sister asked to get an appointment about her dandruff since she had it since she was 12 and it still hasn't gone away. She's 16 now and my mom told her she doesn't need an appoint, she just needs to stop sleeping with her hair damp.
waterRK9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom said that I was gonna get sick and die from brain rot or something if I slept with my hair wet.
Seraphus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:47:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always slept in boxers. Since I was like 8. I literally cannot sleep with clothes on, it bugs the hell outta me. I rarely get sick. I'm talking once every couple of years, if that.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know this wasn't the norm growing up. If I wear anything more than boxers to bed it's far too uncomfortable.
Seraphus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! The reason I got sick was cause I played video games.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:02 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother told me the reason I got sick a lot was because I had long hair. Not because it was sweeping around picking up germs. No, because it was draining my life force to keep itself healthy.
She was a medical secretary for a little while in the 90s and thinks she knows more than doctors.
I like being able to study my ass off and apply what I learn to help people get well. As an anesthesiologist, I like being able to get people through a very traumatic time in their lives.
I really focus on the good stuff (patient seeing me in the grocery store and giving me a huge hug, handing someone's kid back to them safe and sound after a complex surgery etc.).
One of these moments easily trumps 10 of the interactions I mentioned earlier. To me it was completely worth it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:25 on January 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks :) Thinking about taking that path, or going for nursing. It's a tough choice, but that helps a little.
I'm not a doctor, but I think you get what you put into it. I'm currently dealing with a lot of medical professionals because my mom is sick, and I can at least tell you from my family that we value and appreciate the people we've had. It's easy to tell when someone cares for their patients and when they figure out how to speak at whatever level you need.
It's probably silly, but I'm sending thank you cards with some cookies to the people who took such good care of her (especially her ICU nurse who was amazing). So anyway... don't be cynical! I'm sure there are people who are misinformed and maybe not the kindest, but many more appreciate the great service you provide :).
Good luck with your future career path, and I hope you find happiness in it.
That's not true. They'll totally respect your opinion if it's what they want to hear. It's when there's dissonance between their opinion and yours that suddenly the late-night as-seen-on-tv "all-natural" remedies are much better than what you have to offer.
They'll also respect your opinion of their pain when you give them dilaudid. Because, you know, allergy to percocet and it's the only thing that works.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:11:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, every profession has to deal with know-it-alls who write incorrect/misleading information online. If you want to be a doctor, go for it!
trampus1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:04:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Finie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By the time you pay off your $250k student loans and work your 70 hour weeks, you don't make that much money.
thebrod ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True about the loans, but not making that much money is incorrect. Completely depends on what field/ type of doctor you are, and your practice. After residency and maybe fellowship, hours are normal 35-45ish and pay can be very high, depending on where you live.
What the fuck kind of doctor is working 35-45? The only specialty you'll get hours like that is derm, everything else get ready for ridiculous hours, and when you get home from the hospital, guess what? Now you have to spend more time dealing with paperwork regarding the patients that you didn't get to do during the day. There's a reason many doctors' marriages fail.
thebrod ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:17:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of Orthopaedic surgeons for one, 2 days in surgery and 2 in consults. AND Fridays (or another day) off is typical. This of course depends on their specialty. Derm is another, urologist is another. There are many specialties that have great hours and quality of life. If you knew how to read before getting all pissy, I said DEPENDS on field and type of doctor. Also on location.
stevrock ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't write for shit either - Pharmacists
Byizo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:29:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But doctor, I read on the internet that (insert asshat comment).
Here are 2 recent patient interactions for your enjoyment(what I wanted to say in italics):
Z 'My medications aren't gluten free. I would have liked to know that when you prescribed them.' 'I promise you that your medications don't have gluten in them.' 'Well that's not what I read.' 'I'll print you out the manufacturer's drug info. Either way, you need to get that blood sugar down.'
Well you don't have Celiac disease so whether or not your diabetes meds have gluten is irrelevant. Maybe if you put down your gluten-free muffin for a minute and got your ass to a gym, you wouldn't need to be on all these meds.
'What do you think of homeopathy?' 'It's a pseudoscience created in the 1700s that is based on the 100% rejected theory that small amounts of things that cause disease can be a treatment. It has no evidence behind it and many countries require homeopathy to have labels stating it is clinically worthless.' 'Well that's not what I read. Also, my cousin used homeopathy when she had a cold and she got better.' 'Well most homeopathic drugs aren't harmful at least.'
I had a cold a few weeks ago and I got better. I also have some organic cage-free rocks in my front yard. Wanna by some of my cold-fighting miracle rocks?
Edit: fixed typo
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is this drivel about modern medicine? Next you'll tell me a batch of leeches isn't a universal vaccine. HUMBUG I SAY!
moofins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a coworker who says she developed a gluten intolerance after contracting malaria. Is that bunk? Sounds a little bunk to me, but I honestly don't know enough about gluten and malaria to dispute that.
The short version is, flu shots work because your body creates specific antibodies to viruses when exposed to them. It's part of your natural immune response that we take advantage of with vaccinations. Homeopathy isn't medicine because (1) it uses impossibly small concentrations of the supposed active ingredient, which is why posters above refer to "homeopathic remedies" as just water, and (2) if our bodies created specific antibodies to everything that can be used in a "homeopathic remedy", we would all have the WORST autoimmune diseases.
Excuse my ignorance, but aren't flu shots small doses of the flu virus? What's the difference between that and homeopathy?
I think you just gave me a way to get my patients to get the flu shot. I'll tell them it's homeopathy!
To answer your question, I don't think I explained homeopathy very well. They believe that experiencing symptoms similar to the symptoms of a disease can cure it. They also diluted these meds. Wikipedia actually has a good article on homeopathy.
In a flu vaccine, we mapped out the influenza virus and cut out the part that causes illness. Then we expose the immune system to the weakened virus and our body remembers it.
Groggyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have heard reports by some medical professionals that flu shots don't work half the time. Is getting a Flu shot worth it?
I think it's the information age. I've met some really stupid doctors and now because of the Internet, everyone reading this gets to hear about it. And it's not like I'll talk about the awesome doctors or the one who saved my life when the stupid one let me go home with pneumonia, because people like to complain.
It's not the info on WebMD that's dangerous. It's getting through the crap that's the challenge. Since I know how to look, I can find medical info on Wikipedia. I don't though since there are much better sources out there ๐
Freiling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We be MD
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin is a fitness instructor for stay at home mom's and I always feel like I'm having mini aneurysms when they all get together and I hear them talk about how dumb their doctors are because they said something different than what they heard from some celebrity or Dr. Oz type show
Karavusk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair there are some doctors that I dont believe as much as Google. For example one told my mum that we shouldnt drink as much milk because it increases our risc of cancer... 10 minutes of google later and a alot of studies... no real observable difference if you drink or dont drink milk.
Ofcourse normally I believe them and take whatever they tell me to take (well and I only really visit doctors I trust but that is not the point).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just doctors. I work in IT. I can't tell you how many people present to me their broken shit, and I give them a rough estimate to what the problem might be and they tell me "I don't think it's that."
"My computer doesn't get to the desktop. It sits with the pinwheel and just sits forever. It also has been getting slower over time."
"Sounds like the Hard Drive is dying."
"No I don't think it's that."
"Whelp, give us two days and we'll tell you it's the Hard Drive because that's 100% the symptoms of a dying Hard Drive, pal."
That may have to do with being wrong more often than you think. If I had continued doing what this or that doctor suggested I would never have amazed the endocrinologist who was so amazed he repeated the ultrasound before he believed what he saw, that my right thyroid was back to normal and the 5 mm cold nodule in it seen and confirmed twice over a 25 year period by ultrasound and scintigraphy had just disappeared during my (DMPS, DMSA) chelation therapy of the purely imaginative and "it's all in the patient's head" amalgam-related mercury poisoning. The (university clinic researcher) doctor who treated me (with the chelators) used my email with the news to send it to colleagues "this is from a patient I treat for 'anxiety disorders'". There are too many stories of doctors who got it completely wrong, oh and the famous "it's all psychological" whenever they don't know what's going on. A professor of gastroenterology had predicted I would require PPIs for the rest of my live, fuck that guy - and he completely missed the obvious huge candida outbreak that even a freshman doctor diagnosed with one look at my tongue, for which I even got fluconazole-based drugs for three weeks (and the cause for all of it: that imaginative mercury from the totally-safe amalgam fillings). The bone in the upper jaw where amalgam fillings had been also was in dire straits (several places, an injection meant for the mucosa went right into the bone itself with no effort. It all healed under chelation therapy (DMPS injected right there), the bone is impenetrable again. None of that had shown up on OPGs that I had had.
I still go to doctors and have a good time, but I most certainly don't take your word for gospel any more. A dedicated patient doing some research - yes, even in "esoteric" forums every hundredth comment may actually have valuable information pertaining to ones case - can out-succeed a doctor who tries to match a patient to the narrow range of stuff he/she knows and whose waiting room is full with the next patients.
Thanks for sharing. That's quite a story. It doesn't take a physician to know that mercury can be dangerous. I know that badness can happen when people swallow those fillings. Thankfully my dentist gave me a choice between mercury and porcelain. My generation of doctors (I'm in my mid 30s) was taught from day one about the limitations of our knowledge. That said, we are as susceptible to biases as other people. I would no sooner take a doctor's word to be gospel than that of any other expert. One thing a good doctor knows how to do us evaluate evidence and info. When people ask me questions, I think I can find reliable answers. After reading your post, I'm definitely going to have another look at the evidence behind chelation!
I'm definitely going to have another look at the evidence behind chelation!
Unfortunately the waters are very muddy because the vast majority of posts on websites and in forums are really ridiculous. Also, I have found people writing detailed and lengthy descriptions of symptoms that I felt I recognized - but they never had any amalgam fillings. So I know I can't easily extrapolate my experience to other people.
I can tell you if I was a doctor - and while I'm not, I have studied hundreds of hours of university courses of org. chemistry, biochemistry, medicinal chemistry/drug development, physiology, anatomy, neuroscience, statistics (with focus on health topics) - would not want to treat this condition. Success is uncertain, diagnosis almost impossible except by trying chelation, it is possible for things to get much worse during and through chelation (especially since when somebody finds they have that problem they already feel pretty bad), it takes a loooong time, patients need money, time, patience and a lot of commitment that almost nobody has.
to be fair i went to a doctor about pain in my thumb and got misdiagnosed, i went to another and got the correct diagnosis and am on the mend with a lot less pain now!
i didn't believe the first doctor and it was a good thing.
BlueBrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:38:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Name checks out.
paganize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:45:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exception 1, pediatrician: "you can give him all the Tylenol you want, it won't hurt him"
Exception 2: "I've never heard of post-traumatic arthritis, I think you were misdiagnosed"
Exception 3: "I don't agree with the Pain Specialist; Tramadol shouldn't be given for over a week, except with terminal patients"
The last two WERE VA docs, so I'm not sure if they count. But in every field you will find people who shouldn't be there. The vast majority of my doctors have been flipping wizards, and I thank you for your dedication.
Why would they? It's not like you learned anything in that fancy school that they can't google and understand better in 5minutes than you did in 5 years...
Smart person being the operative phrase here. The internet has a staggering volume of info. Getting through the junk is a huge issue. Your math background sets you up nicely to deal with it.
TBF, doctors are peddling opiates like crack dealers. You're losing respect by yourselves. Sincerely, someone who does not take pain medication due to the amount of friends that have died from Doctors peddling drugs on them.
As a young doctor, I was trained to be very wary of narcotics. I think the doctors fueling this epidemic are violating the oath they took to make a profit. Disgusting. That said, the situation is complicated . Back before I went to medical school, medical administrators decided that pain was a vital sign and a lot of pressure was put on doctors to treat all pain. At the same time, pharmaceutical companies came out with powerful narcotics and aggressively marketed them. Add that to the fact that patient put immense pressure on providers. Kind of a perfect storm.
At my hospital, we have responded to the opioid epidemic by titrating people off of their massive opioid doses and by using non-narcotic adjuncts. We also run every patient's CURES report (national prescription database). We report suspicious patients AND prescribers
When patients pressure me for narcotics, I remind them that my oath says to do no harm, not to cause no pain. Sadly they just find someone else. But this is changing. Anesthesiologists are leading a taskforce to change how narcotics are prescribed. I think we can win this fight.
Yeah I'm sure its tough. I'm just pointing out that people may not believe your profession because some of you guys have become the car salesmen of prescriptions. Currently it appears the ethics board for your profession is like accountants pre-enron. There is a new drug for a new unknown condition every month. You guys have effectively turned yourself into the "holistic, herb peddlers" and made these eastern medicine approach seem more legit. But in general, I think most people just view you as another salesman opposed to a doctor first. I'm sure its tough for you and you're young and what not, but the baby boomer doctors really fucked up the image of your profession. Same as mine, accountants/finance. They're really a terrible, selfish generation with shitty ethics and need to die off.
tomjarvis ยท 1849 points ยท Posted at 18:19:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still get a number of people telling me to put on a hat because I'll catch a cold.
Trying to explain the biology of it just makes them more adamant.
But why is it called a "cold" then?
TimmyIo ยท 568 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this argument with my grandma once we were in Australia (I'm from Canada) I went to sleep with no shirt on and she scolded me saying I can get sick and die. I kind of just agreed with her when she started yelling at me in Chinese.
I need timed windows. Open when I go to bed, closed an hour before i wake up. Usually the heat is enough to make me leave my room as quickly as possible.
Sinakus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could be like you guys, when my room gets like that I can feel the cold right into my bones, pyjamas and socks be damned.
I used to go camping a lot with my family, and while the climate where I am is very mild, we would have nights out that were just above zero fairly frequently. My sister was the polar opposite to me, having multiple sleeping bags, a couple of blankets and several layers of clothes, and complained of the cold. I would lie in the compartment over sweating in my boxers and a thin sleeping bag.
guto8797 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:06:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This might be one of the most Canadian things I have ever heard.
IS what 5ยบ here in Portugal and I shut everything, sleep with a thick pyjama under 6 blankets
It's so true though. Cold, crisp air whilst under a good thick duvet and I'm out like a light. Or camping in late fall and early spring, bundled in my down sleeping bag with a wool toque on so only my nose sticks out in the cold air and there's a small frost ghosting the grass outside the tent, hell yes. Cosy cuccoon.
Oh dude. I'm from the middle east and the moment it drops below 15C is when I'm sleeping with two or three shirts, 2 pairs of pants and a jacket with a blanket over me, with the heater on. On the upside I can still go outside and not die when it's 40C.
1-iota ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:09:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. I'm a side sleeper so at some point of the night each side of my nose is against my pillow, and that seems to do the trick to keep it warm enough.
[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 23:51:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Zyphyro ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:17:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes. Once I got a summer cold and they took away my AC remote (am American, study abroad in China). Friend wouldn't let me sit under the AC at his house. This was all in hot and humid Shanghai.
Another trip, I was amazed how long into spring people wore their coats. It was like 80 degrees. I'm sweating just from looking at all of you in your sweaters!
Yeah, when I was visiting my home town I had found out there was a death. It took a few hours for the news to spread, but apparently the valedictorian had been cleaning his rifle when he accidentally shot his face off. I knew his home life, he was miserable.
My friend's mom got on my shit once for wearing sandals in cold weather, except she didn't outright say anything about my feet. She just ranted about how I was going to get sick and threatened to call my mom. It took me like five minutes to figure out what the fuck she was even talking about. The kicker? I was a grown-ass man at the time.
That reminds me, apparently it's a common belief in Korea that sleeping with a fan on can kill you.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it is. i live in korea and before I was married and was dating, I would ask men if they believed in fan death. More often than not, they would believe in it, even when I stated in the US many people sleep with a fan on and no one dies from it. I never went on a second date if they said "yes"
TimmyIo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:02:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
China too apparently she said she knew someone who died like that or something "back home"
My mother(chinese) told me to go gargle salt water to get rid of swollen lymph nodes around my neck. And then she told me not to cook with onions and garlic because it causes heartburn. I told her that doesn't do anything and she wouldn't stop trying to argue with me about it so I just stopped talking.
Lol once I read Chinese I got it. My ex girlfriend was from China. She told me simar things.
x_stei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's when they start yelling in their native tongue that you know you've lost the argument eh?
olnr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might be an Asian thing. Having watched a lot of anime and live action Japanese movies, there seems to be an extremely common misconception that sleeping without covers or in cold conditions inexorably causes colds. For the longest time, I thought the Japanese were just frail, because they so commonly portrayed their fictional characters getting the sniffles after a few hours in a cold room.
Your nose running in cold weather also makes you more likely to put your hands in the perfect position to transfer someone else's contact germs into a nice warm cavern where they can freely breed.
MobinoMe ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heated air indoors = dry air. Humidity below 30% allows bacteria and viruses to multiply. Increase it to 40 - 45% and you could get through winter without a cold or the flu.
That would do nothing to affect viruses. They only reproduce inside cells. Most infectious bacteria also require bodies to reproduce.
Ghitit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:33:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in high school and occasionally rode the public bus to school.
Once, during a rainstorm I got on a bus that had the heat on high. It was so hot I had to take of my raincoat and still I was roasting. I took a window seat and promptly opened the window for some fresh air. The person behind me poked me and told me to shut the window because she'd catch a cold from the cold air. I told her that she was more likely to catch a cold with the window closed than open. Well, she got all mad and shoved the window closed. (They were horizontally sliding windows so she could push it closed from her side.) I pushed it back open and put a pencil in the gap so she couldn't close it again.
She was pretty pissed but I got a chance to cool off.
Just because it's raining doesn't mean the heat has to be on high. I find people doing this all the time.
I saw someone sneeze in -20F weather the other day. Just sneezed straight into the air, no hand, no arm, just out into the fresh air. The resulting mist froze and was visible as it spread. You could literally see this guys mist spread and travel down the train station, it was fucking alarming.
Tini_531 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when riding my bike to school in high school in large groups, you could see the breath of the person in front of you going around them and hitting you right in the face. I used to hold my breath if this happened and either try to bike past them or slow down enough to not be in their 'danger zone'.
I tried not to think about the fact that it also happened in warmer weather, I just couldn't see it.
I had surgery on December 15th last year. They explained to me the reason the place was like a walk in refrigerator (to me it was) was to to impede the spread of virus', bugs, cooties, whatever.
All I know is I weigh 100 pounds and froze my ass off. It was at an outpatient place, but hospitals are cold too.
I had dental surgery when I was about 12. I was too shy to tell anyone how cold I was because I didn't want to be a pain in the ass to the nurses. Last year I had my gallbladder out. This time, I went in knowing about heated blankets and probably ended up covered in 10 of them during recovery. Heated blankets and nurses rock!
werelock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A blanket heater box is on my to-build list for 2017. I spent a lot of time in the hospital from 2015-16 for a bone marrow transplant. Heated blankets are juuuust shy of being as good as spooning/being spooned by a beautiful woman. I probably had a hot blanket at least once a day for 45 days at one point.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've solved a years old misconception tor me. I was wheeled in for surgery and I could not help shivering uncontrollably while I waited for them to anaesthesise me. I always thought that I was shaking with fear but it must have been the cold.
Also because it's hot as fuck wrapped up in impervious gowns. But mostly because there are temperature and humidity parameters in place in an OR for various reasosn. Too much humidity and condensation may form on sterile packaging rendering it non-sterile. Also: surgical fires. The humidity and temperature are set to levels that reduce the risk of spark from static shock.
ToolFO ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI you "lose" consciousness and have "loose" bowels after taco bell
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Taedirk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called the Taco Bell logo.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, for pointing it out! I've learned english, so I'm usually not the one to make these kind of mistakes, I swear! Maybe it was a typo, maybe I didn't pay attention.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a nice graph in my textbook with time on the x axis and felt pleasure on the y axis in relation to the types of female orgasms and the male orgasm.
But our teacher didn't even mention it, which really surprised me.
Seraphus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:38:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know it's not too late right? It's on Netflix.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ain't nobody got time for that! (Also, we don't have Netflix.)
Internal body temperature, yes. Even when it's very cold outside, your body maintains homeostasis very effectively, keeping you at 'body temperature' (~37ยฐC or ~98ยฐF)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, thank you, I forgot to point out it's the core's temperature.
Also, they were just making fun of my spelling mistake.
I recently read this fascinating article in National Geographical about people who have survived impossible circumstances-- like being trapped under water for a very long time -- because they were very cold. It's something like the cold slows the metabolism and everything else way down to a crawl, so the lack of oxygen doesn't kill you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really interesting! You can also hear about people in the news dyng in ice cold rivers and than getting resuscitated hours later because of this. Even little children.
There is a law, van't Hoff's law, stating that a change of 10 ยฐC in heat slows down or speeds up biochemical reactions by 200%-300%.
It seems kinda bullshit, and doesn't apply half of the time in biology. I think it's supposed to be more about in vitro reactions, but I see it used in this context too...
The cool air impedes germs microbes mostly by keeping the surgeons from sweating as they work and thus dripping sweat into the open incision/body cavity.
Well, if youre in a sterile environment then you should have an extremely low chance of getting sick, so the decreased immune system that comes with it wont matter much.
The issue comes in when people are in much colder environments like sub 40 degree that are not sterile for long periods.
approx- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the 100 pounds before or after you lost your ass?
stkchk4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
probably before -- there's not too much ass matter on my 115 lb. frame - od'd on noassitol 10 or so years ago
Often temp is set in hospitals a little low because staff are often there on double shifts and it helps with keeping people who are very tired more aware and less sleepy.
Well yeah, in general that's true. You don't incubate human pathogens at 23 Celsius, you do it at 37C (body temp). So keeping the place cool would generally be expected to slow the growth of bugs like Staph. aureus that will grow on any surface and kill lots of people in hospitals.
Viruses bacteria etc don't like extreme heat or cold. That's why we have fevers when we get sick. So it isn't only the cold that keeps bugs at bay, it's the hot too.
terrymr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was freezing my ass off in the ICU after surgery about a year ago. When I asked about it they assured me that management was just trying to save a buck or two.
It's also because sterile gowns/gloves/hat/face mask/and mask combined with OR lights makes the surgeons and everyone else working very hot. It's easier to just chill the room than work with a hot surgeon.
I saw someone mentioned heated blankets. They've never been stingy with those, so it's all good. Feeling like crap makes the cold worse than it (probably) is.
I also read that Trent Reznor was a fireman who helped on 10/11. Also that when Johnny Cash heard Steve Buscemi's rendition of 'Hurt' he told him to go fuck himself.
Cold helps keep some viruses viable for longer periods in the environment. One survival strategy, for flu viruses for example, is that upon cooling below freezing the lipids in the virus envelope enter a 'hardened' gel phase (think cooling fat from foods) that protects the virus. Fun stuff, and what makes some viruses so bad. Not typically discussed because most people don't know what makes up a virus.
Immunologist here-- when you're cold you make more mucus and anti-microbial peptides. So unless you're in the cold for a week straight, you're better off a little cold sometimes.
Seraphus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, quick question if you don't mind. I'm always wearing a sleeveless tank and basketball shorts (no socks) despite it being in the 40's here. I've done this my whole life, don't even feel cold. I also rarely get sick, maybe 1 time every couple of years (and I recover real quick).
At the same time, cold (and dry) conditions improve transmission of influenza and rhinovirus
madamz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:37:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couple that with people's tendency to stay bundled up inside with other people during the cold seasons and it's pretty easy to see how it spreads so easily in the winter.
DCromo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:44:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
coupled with, how often do you wash your hat or jacket or gloves or scarf?
I mean think about that. A lot of hospitals don't have doctors wear ties for this very reason.
Exactly. I spent every summer of my life till I was 19 fishing remotely with my parents, brother, and 2-3 crew. Because we were only exposed to each other for 3 months with only a small influx of people from town and the sites around us, no one ever got sick with viral and respiratory illnesses in the summer. I literally thought people didn't get sick in the summer, and was astounded when I was 20 to meet people in the summer months at the hotel I worked at that were sick. It was mind boggling to me. It's just that I lived in such a homogenous germ pool with tons of fresh air and maritime moisture in the summers that was the reason nobody got sick. Traveling people with new/foreign germs in tight spaces are a germ cesspool. I am a germ phobe at our office for that reason. -med office staff person
i'm fairly certain that the majority of people who say being out in the cold will get you sick actually mean that being in the cold will lower your immune system. it's like saying binge drinking can make you catch a cold. no, the copious amounts of alcohol do not directly infect you with a virus, but they do lower your immune system, which effectively means that binge drinking can get you sick.
Zarokima ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone that I've ever heard say that I am completely certain actually thought that sickness magically came into being because you are cold.
Jerithil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also just being a bit cold doesn't cut it, you need to pretty much have hypothermia for it to have a real impact.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a track record of heavy drinking and never getting sick. I've always assumed it's like keeping a house shitty so robbers won't look into it. Viruses come in, see that the place should be condemned and move on to the next spot without settling down.
You give the majority of people too much credit. Especially in immigrant/minority families, people will attribute illness to a great deal of things before they point to scientific evidence.
Graz13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also... You are much warmer than the ambient environment. Even single cell germs can be attracted by heat.
yes if you are physically colder than 97 degrees. 97 to 100 and your body should be functioning mostly normal, the immune system really doesn't begin to slow down till you are hypothermic.
I have wondered this before but I think it's highly unlikely if it's just for a short while. (like most situations where you don't put on warm clothes even if people tell you to) You just enter an environment that is more likely to have foreign bodies because they survive longer.
I am personally infamous for getting sick every time the season changes. Every time there's a drop in temperature my body takes some time to adjust. During that time my immune system is down.
Happens when it gets warm too
And when I go on vacation and eat different food
Or when I go on vacation and hang out at home but my daily schedule is different
I know a few people who are convinced that the cold virus thrives in your nose because the temperature in your nose is lower than elsewhere in your body. And they're also convinced that eating spicy food raises the temperature in your nose and kills the virus there.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first part is true. Rhinovirus replicates best at 33ยฐC (91ยฐF). I've never heard of the second part, but I've never looked it up, either.
i read that study too. everybody seemed to miss the fact that the temperatures and times needed to lower immune function was equivalent to sitting in a meat locker for a day.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've found it's somewhat from being indoors with other sick people, but mostly the fact that infectious droplets that are aerosolized tend to float better in cold dry air that in warm humid air. In warm humid air they bind with the water droplets and fall to the ground more readily.
In addition, cold temperatures are also usually dryer either from the environment or from use of heaters. There is a mucosal lining in your respiratory tract from your nose to your lungs that is protective. When there is dryness, the mucosal layer gets thinner and pathogens like bacteria and viruses can penetrate to your cell layers easier.
But still its not the temperature that causes you to get sick.
Elivey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always thought that's want people meant when telling you to put more clothes on when it's cold out, I had no idea people thought otherwise. That's so weird.
They experimented. Half of participants wore damp socks to bed, and all were literally objected w/viruses.
People wearing wet socks were less likely to get sick.
The danger with winter isn't the cold but the dryness, which causes mucus to build up in your throat (b/c you can only breath damp air), and that thickened mucus allows bacteria to grow. Also, hoarseness and hard to breathe generally and sinus headaches from the thickened mucus, which feels "sick"-ish.
Don't want to get sick? Use a (regularly cleaned) humidifier, cover your nose and mouth while outside (scarf or gater), and try mucinex/saline sprays each night if you tend to get sinus stuffiness. Be amazed.
Shivadxb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except increasingly the actual evidence shows it may actually be beneficial to the immune system for the body to experience severe cold at times.
What it's probably going to show us is that living constantly in temperature controlled environments with little variation is really shit for our immune systems.
Yeah that is true. But the difference isnt drastic whether you where a hat or not. It's still cold outside. Another explanation I've heard is that when it's cold outside people are inside together more which increases the chances of passing something to someone.
True but that's also the case any time your body has to do anything. Too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, not getting enough sleep, getting too much sleep.
Pretty much any time your body is not in a state of perfect homeostasis compromises you in some way. Plus you still actually have to come in contact with the disease in some way even with a weak immune system.
In Japan they call it Kaze, which means "wind". Just as silly. It's cute if a Japanese person translates badly and says "I have wind" and mean a cold. Funny to explain that having wind actually means being farty.
Scarrzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being cold for long enough to lower your core temperature will have an effect on your immunity.
We are constantly bombarded with viruses and bacteria, but shrug most off, so the issue isn't all that cut and dried.
fraxert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cold weakens your immune system and people are often huddled inside when it's cold out, leading to cold and flu season in the chilly months. Over time, people observed the pattern that people who were frequently out in the cold often got sick. It's right for the wrong reason-- people huddled together inside are more likely to pass on germs-- but but they are right and cold does play a part in it.
My mom still gets on me about this. I'm 28 and she's in her 50s now. No use even attempting to explain, tried before and she was like "ohhh" but brought it up again months later as if I hadn't explained a thing.
Actually, you are more likely to catch a cold if you're in cold weather without adequate clothing, because your body is busy producing heat and the immune system is a bit weaker. Not wearing a hat in winter, for example, is kinda stupid since your head looses heat very effectively and it takes your body a lot of effort to keep you warm.
That's funny, I never knew it was a myth. You should probably wear a hat anyway, I mean, you you wouldn't walk around in winter with any other body part exposed except your face.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rubbish. Your immunity doesn't get worse because you're putting energy into staying warm. It gets worse because it must work harder to deal with the increase in pathogens that come with an increase in available water. Moist air lets pathogens live outside the body longer, giving them more chance to infect you.
scolfin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, the cold virus being a necessary factor in no way rules out contributing factors. You were arguing that speeding isn't a problem because you only crash when you hit something.
ryegye24 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:53:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Why's it called a cold, then?"
Why do you drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?
In my personal reasoning, before we understood how sickness worked, we observed that people get sick when its cold outside, and so people just made a connection and called it that.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it was named well before bacteria and such were common knowledge outside of medical circles?
mikeash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is one of these people. Drives me batty. We get along great for the most part, but every time she says I'm going to get sick because I'm not wearing enough (or worse, that I'm going to make our daughter sick if I don't force her to wear a coat she doesn't want) I go a bit crosseyed.
My husband and I were talking about this just last week. Our families (his in Arkansas, mine in Texas) both swore up and down that if you go outside in cold weather with your hair wet, you'll catch a cold.
The complete illogic of that eluded both our small selves, of course, and we never thought to argue until last week, and frankly our moms aren't policing us as hard anymore so it's not an issue.
Grieie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah try being a swimmer and people of the public try to stop you leaving with wet hair..... If I used the hair dryer every time my hair was wet I would be wasting so much time.
Yurei2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because people living in the past, the inherently ignorant savages that they are, noticed these illnesses occurring just before and during the beginning of winter. Because they lacked science, and instead believed in superstition decided that the cold itself caused the issue. Hence "he caught a cold".
TLDR; Past people are idiots. And so will we be when we are also past people.
Next time turn it around on them: "Well if someone gets sick in the summer why isn't it called a hot?"
OldDarte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend told me that, and while I believe her (since her father is a doctor), I still can't help like my whole world is turning upside down every time that topic is brought up. I mean, what does a cold temperature do, lower your immune system or there's no correlation whatsoever?
I thought it was called "the cold" because that particular family of viruses still functions and spreads well in cold temperatures/environments, where as most viruses need a temperate environment to spread.
Technically, it is true that being cold decreases your ability to fight off the cold virus (same reason we get fevers to fight sickness), thus increasing your chances of any viruses you do have incubating and giving you symptoms.
All that said, it is WAY more important to avoid contact with the virus in the first place. And if you're home alone with everyone healthy, just being cold absolutely will not give you the flu.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair, I tend to only get sick after being outside in the cold. And/or really, really drunk.
I always assumed my body / immune system took a hit and in the time it was dealing with the shit I put it through, it wasn't able to deal with the cold.
I don't know, man, why is it called a guinea pig if it's a rodent from Peru? Retarded people name things and the names stick, it doesn't have to mean shit.
mjms6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminded me of one July night I was visiting my mom with my 5 month old daughter. I had been napping awhile and woke up around 11pm and started getting ready to go home. My mom wanted me to start the car so the baby wouldn't be cold. I said are you crazy, it's still hot out. She tried to argue with me but I just left. In the car the temp was 22 degrees Celsius. It was a hot summer.
The next evening I had to sleep at her place (my house was being renovated). Again it was sweltering hot out and she doesn't have a/c. Around 3am both myself and my daughter were woken up by my mother pretty much crawling over us to close the open window above our bed... she didn't want us to get a cold. I was so frustrated. By early morning it was sweltering hot and I could barely breathe. I know my mom meant well, but common sense has never been her strong point.
I don't give a fuck what doctors say, every fucking time I get fairly cold I have cold symptoms for a couple days. I'm going to stay bundled up and I'm going to suggest for other people to bundle up. This whole fucking thing about "the cold doesn't give you the cold" is stupid. Even if it doesn't, it fucking sucks to be cold. Wear a hat.
This isn't like herbal healing or anti-vax, this is telling people "ay you might be a bit more comfy if you don't wear a T shirt while it's 50 degrees outside"
To be fair the amount of idiots I see who dont wear a hat when its freezing is ridiculous. Keep warm, keep comfy. And if you get stranded in your car guess what? If youre dressed warm( along with other provisions for cold weather driving) you wont freeze to death ( its 5 degrees outside now)
People in my city believe you catch the cold through your ears so they will stuff cotton balls in their ears when it's cold. Also considering I live in Bangalore, it's never cold.
bouco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you are a kid and playing in the cold you start to sweat. Then you get tired and stop and get cold because of the sweat. Can't that make you sick or feverish from going from hot to cold in a few minutes?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called a cold because cold increases your chances of getting sick, because your bloodstream is slower and you're inside a lot more often, near other people.
But it's really dumb to think being cold will make you sick.
People also assume the cold makes them sick because sometimes after being in the cold you'll have a runny nose.
zaery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because people in the 16th century thought it was caused by being cold.
kaleb42 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:33:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too be fair tho whn it is cold outside your immune system does get a bit weaker and you're more susceptible to getting sick. So there is some truth to it
Being out in the cold does suppress the immune system however: http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/out-in-the-cold which means anything you do come into contact with is more likely to get you sick. Also cold weather makes for runny noses and an increased spread of germs to surfaces (and sneezing). It isn't the cold itself, but what the cold does to you and everything around you.
Had an Asian roommate in dorm. One winter day I come back from lectures and as soon as I open the door a wave of cold hits me. Both windows in the tiny dorm room open. The guy was sitting in front of PC with only towel wrapped around his waist and feet in bowl of water.
When I asked WTF? he said it's his friends advice to get cure cold. Ok...
That day I played till like 2am on PC, later around 4am I got woken up by EMTs. Apparently my roommate had some serious pain in chest and called his friends (couldn't wake me up I guess). They managed to get the dorm guard to call the ambulance. From the symptoms EMTs thought he was beaten by someone, so they needed me to translate the questions and answers. After they got him to a hospital they've found out it was pneumonia.
kjata ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, there's a reason people have made that connection for millennia.
What's strange though is that cold (and heat) exposure produces a bunch of positive stress adaptations/gene activations. Yet it transiently makes you more vulnerable to foreign invaders.
Don't have the citation, but I also heard that the stress of dramatically changing temperature and humidity (i.e. going from indoors to outdoors and back with heat or ac on) is also a big factor.
Cold dry air irritates the mucous membranes in your nose, which produce mucous to protect themselves. Your nose evolved to help protect the lung tissue, so clean(er) warm moist air is what the lung tissue "needs". Dry cold air making it into your lungs will irritate your lungs/throat and can trigger coughing (which also spreads more germs). Even in more "normal" weather your nose humidifies the air going into your lungs, it is just the more extreme weather makes for a more extreme (over)reaction.
Edit: Also, anything that makes your eyes water (such as... irritation from a cold wind) can make your nose run as well, since the excess fluid drains into your nose :)
People have been saying that being cold can give you a cold or pneumonia for centuries. Seems to make sense since more people get sick in winter time. Now the whys of my latter statement are hotly debated but I would hardly think someone was an idiot for believing that coldness gives you the cold when that idea is so entrenched in our culture.
How many people here have had their mom tell them to wear a jacket so they don't get a cold?
This is my mother in law. She comes from a teeny tiny town in rural Mexico and has a third grade education so I don't really hold it against her but it gets tiring having to explain in to her all the time.
I once brought my then six month old son over for her to babysit. It was a cloudy morning, maybe 60ยฐF and I had my son in fleece footy pajamas, a knitted beanie hat and a blanket on top strapped into an infant car seat which I carried him in to the house. She took one look at him and lectured me because his back wasn't covered and he was going to get ill from the cold....
1 60ยฐF is not cold, she has lived in Oregon for almost 30 years, that is normal temperature here. #2 His back was covered by his fleece pajamas and the huge carseat he was laying in, you couldn't get more covered if you tried. #3...and I have to explain this to her a lot, you CAN'T get sick from your skin touching cold air.
people will always believe you get a cold from being cold, they really fucked up with the name. With all the fancy medical terms they come up with cold..
afrodoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER doc here and I love good EMT and Paramedics. Keep up the good work!
It's so funny as an acupuncturist a big part of our schooling is about how if your exposed to the elements you'll get sick. I always thought it was bullshit.
But as I've grown older I see it differently. If a person is vulnerable by being cold or tired and they are exposed to germs they are more likely to get sick.
So I think there is truth there you just need to see the whole picture.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once I went to the doctor with a very bad flu and my father, my father wanted the doctor to tell me that my flu was because I camped in cold weather and I hiked in snow, and I wanted the doctor to tell my father that it was a virus which has nothing to do with the cold.
The poor doctor explained to us that the virus causes a flu but the cold is bad for the inmunological system. So my father and me returned home telling each other "I told you"
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:22:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because winter is cold, and people are typically in more confined spaces more often.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That and the cold weather affecting your immune system.
You go outside to travel where you need to go -> Your body has to work harder in the cold to maintain body temp thus lowering your immune system -> You arrive at the destination that has people in it and make contact with someone carrying a virus or what have you. They may not even be "sick" as their body's immune system is fighting it off -> Your weakened immune system can't hold up to it and you get "sick".
I've read that it has a lot to do with two main things.
Enclosed spaces: Cold weather brings more people inside breathing and recycling the same air in smaller spaces.
Winter jackets/clothes: Doesn't get washed as often, worn many times before washing. Sometimes not even washed from season to season, depending on variables.
Yep exactly. I'm not just talking about large over coats either, things like hoodies and sweatshirts people tend to gloss over washing for longer periods of time.
But with woollen coats it should be enough if you hang them outside on freezing weather, the colder the better. Real wool is practically self cleaning.
I've also heard that cold air is also less humid, and airborne pathogens travel through more quickly. So, when someone sneezes/coughs, the germs travel a farther distance, effectively increasing the infection zone
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dry air->dry mucus membranes->cracks->you scrath->much easier for germ to get hold. If I remeber correctly, if someone with a cold sneezes on you, the risk of you cathing it is about 25%, whereas if you shake hands and scratch you eyes, ears or nose, it's about 75%.
When I was very small, my school had a rule that if it was under 60ยฐ F outside, you were required to wear a coat. Because you might get sick otherwise.
I didn't stay there long. But at my second school, years later, a kid I knew from there came and was thoroughly convinced of this. Like WTF, you're in 5th grade now, you should know better...
Unuhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the family were from Italy, they'd have insisted he got the pneumonia omly because he didn't use a hairdryer after washing his hair.
Because apparently if you skip the hairdryer you'll always get pneumonia. ๐
Only an EMT. Donโt kid yourself, you and all other first responders deserve mad kudos for what you do and the danger you sometimes put yourselves into. As Iโm sure you know, EMTs can mean the difference between survival and DOA at the emergency room. Thatโs no small thing, friend. :)
My understanding is that being out in the cold increases the chances of a virus already dormant in your system of getting a foothold. There has to be something there to begin with.
This is "folk wisdom" all over the world. I specifically encountered someone from Morocco that believed this. I wouldn't be surprised if was folk wisdom in the US too.
Enolator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only. You are. Don't belittle your contributions to society :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Only" and EMT? You are still more qualified than 99% of Reddit to answer this question.
True enough you need the cold to attack you. But being cold sure as he'll helps it grab hold.
I cannot sleep in a room less than 21' minimum, or chances are whatever I've been around recently will get me. I'm pretty good at keeping my room 22-23.
This weekend a friend and I stayed in a hotel, he has had a cold for nearly two weeks, we've been sharing drinks, etc the whole time, no problem.
Our hotel was very cold, I would say 17', I normally sleep naked, but I had to wear a jumper. Low and behold woke up with a banging cold.
So although it's maybe obvious that you need the virus to get in your system, I can see why people believe that being cold is what makes you sick, as at the very least for me, it's when I get cold that a cold is able to get me.
Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've told this many times to my dad and he look at me like im a crazy person...
Cahootie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a really bad case of pneumonia a few months ago (we're talking 17 days of 40 degrees fever, multiple visits to the ER, 3 days in the hospital, 5 different antibiotics including alleric reactions), and I do think the fact that I was drinking for 21 hours straight to end a three day bender hight have made me more susceptible to it. 5-6 people got pneumonia that weekend.
This is true (can't get sick by exposed skin) by beliefs of Western medicine. But Chinese medicine certainly does believe this. I think both medicines have merit. While Western medicine is very good at some things, it's a very young medicine. Chinese medicine is recorded as 2200 years old and legends claim 5000-9000 years of oral tradition.
This may also be a cultural thing. Chinese people (or at least my parents) believe that if you go out in the cold without clothing, you'll catch a cold.
"Only an EMT"? You save lives! Give yourself more credit. Thanks for what you do.
Pythias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously thought that you could get pneumonia if you went out with wet hair because my mother told me this. Turns out she meant hypothermia. And that it wasn't a for sure thing only that you were more susceptible to getting it. Thanks for making look like an idiot mom.
Can I please just say that you are not "only an EMT". You are important in the grand scheme of things, and to do what you do every day takes guts. You see things I can't imagine and deal with some of societies most difficult people. You save lives every day, and you keep your cool while doing it.
I wish I was half the person you and your fellow EMTs are.
My mother still holds on to the belief that going to bed with wet hair is what causes pneumonia. I was hospitalized with it as an infant, but she, to this day, has no clue how I got it, because that night I didn't have a bath. Now, every year, I always get bronchitis in the winter, and she scolds me for going to bed with wet hair.
iUptvote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rememeber learning this in school and nobody I tell seems to understand or believe me.
eskaza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine being Louis Pasteur
dakuth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All these people wearing things to bed is weirding me out. I haven't worn anything other than boxers or underpants to bed in like 20 years.
I explained this to someone who works for a healthcare company yesterday, granted, she was an admin, you would expect that they would atleast know that much
My mother in law is a head surgical nurse at a small hospital and has argued with me about this topic. She got defensive because I laughed when she first said it, thinking there was no possible way she could actually believe that. This was years ago, and she still tells my kids to bundle up so they don't get sick. And tells me/my wife we got colds because we don't wear hats when it's cold.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old boss of mine once told me she was sure that most diseases were caused by possession.
Omg, my husband and his family are from this ideological camp, it drives me crazy.
anonomie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still say this very regularly. Like I don't think the general public understands that you can't "catch a cold" from things like wet hair, or it being cold outside.
This week I had the son of a rehab patient tell me that his elderly mom caught a cold because she'd had a shower. This guy thinks all African-Americans get cold after taking a shower and it makes them sick. I tried to explain that that's not how the immune system or pathogenic illnesses work, but he was adamant. He's actually quite a bit of a pain in the ass. Meddles with our care and makes very unreasonable demands.
mms09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the patient and their family Eastern European? It's beaten into us Eastern Europeans that you can catch a cold and a myriad of life threatening diseases if your skin is exposed to cold (your back or head especially), if your hair is wet and you go outside (god forbid if it's windy) etc. etc. Thankfully moving to Canada cured my family of these perceptions :P
I don't even argue anymore when I'm told that going outside in the cold with your hair wet gives you pneumonia. Like, believing this shows a major misunderstanding of both how your body works, and how illness works.
I hate that I've gotten so jaded about it, but ever since moving out to an extremely rural area, just about every single person lives their lives according to old wives tales. And of course doctors just want your money and big pharma and all that, so the go-to cure for everything from a common cold to fucking cancer is essential oils.
This one annoys the hell out of me, I know several very intelligent people who believe that being barefoot on a cold floor makes you more likely to catch a cold. One of them is my bf, very smart guy, thinks wearing a scarf in bed in winter makes him less likely to get colds flu etc. It's goddamn viruses people! I don't need to put slippers on to appease some nonsense your mother taught you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha When I was growing up my mother swore you'd catch pneumonia if you went into the cold with wet hair.
I hate when people swear up and down they got sick from the kid they hugged that morning. Colds come from germs. Gems take several days to actually make you sick. If you're getting sick from that kid it'll be in 3 days not 3 hours. And going out in the rain. Maybe there are more germs being kicked up but being out in the rain isn't going to make you sick. /rant
My 5 yr old caught a case of viral pneumonia once. My family blamed me for letting him go out side in the spring. They believe the ground and air in the spring makes people sick.
Serious question. Why is it when i go out and it's damp and I'm not well covered I'm almost guaranteed to catch a cold then? This happens to me even if i don't even see another human while I'm out
That has to do with the common theme of this thread, in that the adverse climate suppresses your immune system. On the sane note, everyone's different, and you may have an innately weaker immune system that can't handle environmental factors as well as others.
The season of your immune system doesn't always have to let something from the outside in, to boot. That suppression could theoretically allow some organism already inside you the perfect moment to gain a foothold in your body.
this actually makes perfect sense. so any virus that may have been small enough to not notice and that my body was currently fighting gets a good foothold and kicks my ass cause my body was too busy trying not to freeze.
The way it was explained to me was that rhinovirus actually fairs better in an environment colder than what most viruses prefer (around 50ยฐF) so an extended amount of time breathing in cold air will lower the temperature of the mucosal linings in your nose and throat enough that a minor rhinovirus infection that your immune system could have handled without any outward sign of sickness will multiply fast enough to overpower the immune systems first attempts and turn into a full blown cold.
If that's bogus, I need to nominate my mom for a bullshit-artist award.
This just makes me pissed. Tf you coming to a doctor for if you're just diagnosing yourself you shlong.
[deleted] ยท 3433 points ยท Posted at 20:51:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a dental hygienist and once was telling a patient after a cleaning that she had gingivitis. She replies with "I must have caught it from my boyfriend". Had to explain to her that it's because she doesn't brush/floss enough. She was 36.
Not what she meant, but it can be transmitted. The bacteria that causes most periodontitis along with the one that causes caries is transmitted person to person. It's just that most people have those bacteria by adulthood so they need good hygiene to prevent disease
SnakeJG ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:52:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I wish I had heard about this earlier. I wouldn't have shared food with my kids as I have had tough battles with the bacteria in my mouth.
I tried my best to bend the ear of all my pregnant patients and brand-new parents about this very thing. Don't take stuff from your mouth and put them in your baby's/kid's mouth. Don't share food or drinks with them. Don't pick up a pacifier that fell on the floor then "clean it off" in your mouth and give it back to your baby. And, yes, I tried to convince parents to kiss cheeks and foreheads but not lips because that transmits germs and junk just as easily as sharing cups and silverware.
This is all especially important for parents with gum disease and/or a history of lots of cavities and dental work. People don't treat the big two oral health problems as what they really are: infectious diseases.
Wait. So since I have crappy crappy teeth (33 cavities, 1 root canal) I could avoid giving it to my kids if I just don't swap saliva? It's not genetic?
Swapping saliva is a huge part of it, but it's not just you. It's everyone your kids interact with closely socially (grandparents, other kids, etc). They can get the bugs from lots of places, but parents are far and away the largest source. If the kid never gets the bug, they never get the disease.
Having said that, raising a kid from birth to adulthood without them ever getting exposed to pathologic oral bacteria is pretty much impossible. Once they are exposed/infected, other factors come into play: genetics is a big one, home care regimen (frequency and quality of technique) is another big one, the third biggest is how often they are seen by a dental professional for preventive care/education.
You can't control your kids' genes, but you can control the other environmental factors. Step one: don't expose them to the bad bugs. Step two: treat them like they are already exposed. Step three: be sure you have help (find a dentist who's great with kids).
Avoiding transmitting bad bugs to your kids, is one way to help them prevent cavities and gum disease. However, the best way is to find them a dental home and take them to regular appointments. Also make sure you ask their hygienist to show you how to properly care for your child's teeth while at home. Cavities and gum disease is not genetic and they are pretty much completely preventable.
Gum disease has genetic predisposition but cavities don't or at least not as strongly. It may seem genetic but it's really the passing of bacteria from parent to child.
Can tonsilith-causing bacteria also be transmitted?
I had great dental health until college. I'm wondering if I can blame my exes for the sudden onslaught of cavities.
Interesting to read the dental stance on this. I've only ever heard doctors say that sharing saliva with kiddos is good for their immune system and microbiome.
So tonsoliths aren't necessarily caused directly by bacteria, though there are bacteria in them. They are formed when debris like mucous and dead cells accumulate and mix with saliva and minerals so that the debris starts to harden. I'm not aware of tonsil stones being a transmissible condition.
As for the onslaught of cavities during college, it's possible! But you'd have to control for all the other environmental factors. Did your home care stay exactly the same? Did your diet and sugar intake stay the same? Did you go to the dentist at the same intervals? Consider stuff like that, too.
I'd have to chat with some doctors about their stance on sharing saliva. Most I know are OK following the guidelines put out by the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry. Also, here in Colorado we have a campaign called Cavity Free at Three, which is targeted to pregnant women and very young children.
scroom38 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:07:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So this explains how my teeth are in great condition despite my fairly poor hygene. I'm gonna go ahead and pick it up before I ruin my teeth....
I have the opposite problem. Now I feel bad about letting friends try my drink haha
scroom38 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:17:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's not like they're going to catch bacteria from your drink unless they've got shit hygiene. It's not your fault if they don't properly care for their teeth :D
They will certainly catch bacteria from his/her drink. You've got a whole boatload of shit in your mouth at pretty much all times. Hygiene is to prevent damage from the bacteria, not clean it out.
Are there people that don't have this bacteria in their mouths? Idk why but I assumed it was something that our digestive systems needed to work properly
Impossible. You're made up of bacteria. You usually have more bacteria living on and inside you than the number of cells that make up your body. Most bacteria is in our digestive systems, particularly in the lower end of the system which goes without saying.
It seems that I have misread your comment and didn't read the "this" in your question. I read it asking if there were people who didn't have bacteria in their mouths. I agree, we don't have all forms of bacteria inside us or we'd be dead.
Afaik, we have good and bad bacteria normally found in our mouths and periodontitis is that bacteria combined with debris and plaque (which becomes tartar) which are a bad combo that irritates and inflames your gums and teeth which cause infection.
The bad bacteria from said infection wouldn't normally be found in the mouth of someone who doesn't have gum disease. So in essence, yes there would be many people without that bacteria in their mouths.
The bacteria that causes periodontal disease (usually treponema denticola and porphyromonas gingival) and the bacteria that causes tooth decay (strep mutans) are not part of the healthy flora of bacteria, meaning there is no positive function for them. Most of the good bacteria of the mouth (upwards of 600 strains iirc) function to prevent other disease causing bacteria and fungi from coming in. There isn't a major role of the bacteria in the mouth for digestion, that's going to mainly be in your gallbladder and intestine
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I've read in multiple places that if you have gum disease, you can spread the bacteria to others by kissing, which would increase their need to floss and brush even better than before.
Kissing, sharing food and drinks, sharing utensils, yep, pretty much anything that moves stuff from one mouth to another can transmit the germs that cause cavities and gum disease.
You're on the right track but a little off the mark. No matter who you are or what oral disease you do or do not have, everyone needs to brush twice and floss at least once a day AND IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY. The difference would be if the infectious bacteria in the patient's mouth has led to gum disease (whether gingivitis or periodontitis) they will need to go to the dentist a little more frequently to maintain a healthy oral environment.
Once while I was at the dentist, the hygienist picked a popcorn hull out of my gums. I had been to the movies two weeks before. Those things need to be scrubbed out.
So I broke half my wisdom tooth off and now it stores food so whenever I sneeze random food bits appear out of nowhere. Yeah.
And yes, I am getting it taken care of. I have a dentist appointment on Thursday.
ms211064 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just went through this except I had a cavity that was improperly cleaned out and continued to decay under the cap. Eventually the tooth broke (a molar) and the amount of food that I would randomly feel just while talking was disgusting, not to mention the absolutely putrid smell๐คข
I broke a molar and didn't have that issue. Possibly because it was one of the upper molars? I don't know. Have fun getting it fixed! Sucks you have to wait until Thursday. I don't know how your tooth is broken and what they'll do for it, but they essentially put a patch over mine. I mean it broke in half diagonally and vertically, the nerve was exposed, but all four sides are still there right along the gumline, so I guess that's how there's a patch on the tooth.
Although since yours is a wisdom tooth they'll probably just extract it. Mine wasn't, it's just a regular tooth. And I still have all my wisdom teeth because my mom didn't have dental insurance when 3 of them came in at the same time. Awful pain. About the only thing worse was the pain I felt the day after I got that broken molar fixed. I understand why the dentist gave me a prescription for one pill of Vicodin. Ugh.
I don't need to tell my self anything. I am going off experience. If I floss before every brushing it doesn't stink. If I go a few days without flossing it does.
You will start to develop periodontal disease. That's when the attachment apparatus that holds your tooth in place (gums, bone, periodontal ligaments), starts to deteriorate. This leads to periodontal pockets in your gums. In healthy gums the pocket (we call it a sulcus in healthy gums) should be between 1-3mm(millimeters) in depth. Perio pockets form starting at 4mm. I've seen as deep as 11mm. These pockets are impossible to clean out with a tooth brush/floss/oil pulling/ and anything you can do at home but they are absolute plaque and tartar traps. You now have to make more frequent visits to the dentist (coupled with adequate home care meaning you floss and brush as you should) to get the plaque and tartar cleaned out and to arrest the disease process. If you don't arrest the disease process, it will progress until you don't have any teeth left.
You'd probably have so much plaque that you wouldn't be able to see the difference between your own teeth and the buildup. It would be like having one large, u-shaped tooth on the top, and another one on the bottom. Honestly, I have no idea, but it would probably take some serious chiseling to remove the plaque, if you still had any teeth left.
What you're referring to is tartar/ calculus. Plaque is soft and will come off with a toothbrush. Calculus is what forms when plaque is not effectively removed and after a while it calcifies and cements itself to the tooth, becoming calculus. Calculus will not come off with a toothbrush.
lmtdis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bro, do you even floss?
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was his point. People who don't floss should smell it. It's a "that'll show ya" moment.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:21:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:48:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're busy
Year3030 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Three times is a little excessive. You might have OCD. I think it's ok if you do I have my regular little routines that I have to do but they also make sense to me.
Honestly? My main excuse is that my teeth are packed in extremely tightly and it's rather difficult to floss between them. Even my dental hygienist has told me that she has to take more time flossing my teeth than with other people lol
Yessss! And now that I floss nightly, I have become more sensitive to it. In a meeting the other day, a co-workers walks in and I immediately know she doesn't floss. Ughhhhhh!
kel-c ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once was in the hospital for 7 days. They brought me a tooth brush so I could brush while bed-bound but no one brought me floss. I didn't think anything of it, but once I got home and was finally able to floss again... oh god. Anytime I'm feeling lazy and think "meh, I can skip tonight," I remember what it was like to floss after getting home from the hospital.
You don't even have to wait. If you haven't flossed in ages, you should already be able to smell the shit that's accumulating in between your teeth when flossing.
Me. Every night as part of my regular routine. And my SO because he wants smooches.
If you ever get round to flossing, floss your back teeth - the smell of molar gunk is the devil's ass. I never neglect my back teeth when I floss anymore.
I had them for years before I realized, and I just assumed it was normal to have ass-breath if you hadn't just brushed your teeth.
For anyone reading this who has the same problem: try Therabreath products, particularly the mouth rinse. I still get the stones, but the stink is GONE. It's been life-changing.
j__h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your breath tends to smell like dog shit, that's a good indication. To know for sure, you can take a look at your tonsils. Point a light at them, open wide, and use a qtip or very clean fingertip to prod at them. If you see any white spots or gunk, and you're not currently battling a cold/flu, you probably have tonsil stones.
Watch youtube on their removal. Or grab a flashlight and have a look at your tonsils for any white spots. If you see any give them a poke with your finger and see if any hard white stones come out. It's fucked up.
That's a hard question - I didn't know I had them for a while. Then one day I felt what felt like a piece of popcorn (like, the smooth casing) kind of stuck to the back of my throat. And I tried and tried to dislodge it but couldn't. I looked in the mirror in the bathroom with a flashlight and tongue depressor, and saw a glimpse of white in where my tonsils were. So I knew there was something back there. And I just kind of kept massaging it and working at it, and eventually worked out a tonsil stone. After that, when I felt that...odd feeling of "There's something in the back of my throat", I knew what it was. They are gross.
Difficult but not impossible. Gets easier with practice. I use my tongue to help hook the floss back there.
magpie15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't worry, it gets easier when your teeth fall out
crono09 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:53:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only flossed about once a month until my late 20s. Then I got such a severe case of gingivitis that my dentist had to do a procedure where he scraped my teeth underneath my gums and injected an antibiotic between my teeth. Now I floss every night.
False798 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine a dentist separating your gums from your tooth with his needly hook, scraping, glueing, and then moving on to the next. You think it's over but then out comes the syringe with antibiotics.
I hope you had an anaesthetic.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also had it done. They use like a drill type thing underneath. They definitely give you anesthetic but unless you ask they won't use it on every part of the puth to avoid overdoing it. The inside and towards the front hurt like hell. But it really showed me how bad it can be if you neglet flossing too much. I still have to go for checkups more times than normal and have to get my gums scraped every two years because I can't afford the laser.
I've had it done, by student hygienists and it took 3 four hour sessions (3 days in a row) and 15 shots later it was all done. I now brush 3 times a day and floss and use a water pik,i never ever want to go threw that again. Oh and i got TMJ from having to keep my mouth open for so long. So yay......not.
u38cg2 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a Waterpik. The little device blasts a thin stream of water in between your teeth, and is much faster and more thorough than just dental floss. Floss is still necessary once in a while to get more stubborn debris out from between your teeth, though.
So I compare Waterpik to flossing like washing a car. Sure, you can hose the car down pretty good (Waterpik) and it will look pretty clean, but to get the really caked-on stuff off, you need to scrub it by hand (floss).
Use your Waterpik daily, by all means, but don't skimp on flossing.
I'm 28 and I sometimes think I'm the only person my age who flosses regularly. I've been doing it for a decade because I lost my insurance at 18 and I take pride in my teeth. I finally went for a cleaning this past year and surprisingly it only took about 45 minutes. The dental tech was surprised it had been a over decade since I'd had it done, she said it was only noticeable at my wisdom teeth, but I had those pulled shortly after, so no big deal.
Oh, maybe that's normal, then? Like I said, it had been a decade so I assumed it would take longer.
Year3030 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't go for 15 years (only one cavity when I went back). They cleaned me but there was also some stuff they couldn't get all in one pass, there might be some leftovers. Congrats though on proper dental hygiene (first-bump).
Sometimes it's genetics. Mine are discolored due to the vitamins my mom took while pregnant. (At least that's what I was told.) I had braces for 2 years when I was younger to straighten them, but they didn't pull my wisdom teeth so my bottom teeth started getting fucked up, so they're not perfect, but they're clean now at least.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:10:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably diet though. I mostly stopped eating sugar and my teeth improved like crazy.
I brush and floss daily and actively dislike and avoid sweets and didn't go to the dentist for 5 years. I had 5 cavities despite the tech saying that my teeth looked like they were in great shape. They were all between my teeth. I guess the shape of your teeth can play a role in your propensity for food sticking and making cavities.
enduhroo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:19:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fucking gross
kanated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Europe and don't know anyone who flosses. Everyone knows you should do it, no one actually does it. I've heard it's a lot more common to floss in America?
Don't know anyone with bad breath that isn't a hobo, so I'm not so sure what's so gross about not flossing.
enduhroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't u get bits of food stuck in the crevices between your teeth?
People who don't want to, don't feel like they need to or have never been told to.
lfairy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:12:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do โ I have sensitive gums, and they start to flare up if I don't.
Mylaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:00:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until coming to reddit I literally never heard of it. Never. English is not my native language too, but I don't even know that we're supposed to do this.
European country? Here in France, you'll find floss... but it's the shitty, super thin kind that breaks in between a floss. Strings get caught between teeth. Ugh. I get "glide" floss mailed here.
Mylaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because brushing twice a day and some mouthwash clears out your teeth completely and there's no medicinal benefit to flossing.
WgXcQ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because brushing twice a day and some mouthwash clears out your teeth completely and there's no medicinal benefit to flossing.
No, it doesn't; yes, there is.
If your teeth are standing close together, there are areas the bristles can't reach. Mouth water can only disinfect areas, but if there is any food substance stuck, even minimal amounts, it just stays there and becomes a breeding ground for bacteria.
I know that because there were recently found four areas in my mouth where cavities are starting to build from between the teeth, invisible from the sides/top. Found via x-ray. Is going to be fun to get eight teeth drilled, and could've been prevented by flossing. My teeth are extremely close together, so close that I can only use certain kinds of floss because others catch and rip I have to deal with trying to get the fibers out.
What you say may be true for someone who has enough of a gap between their teeth and is also a very thorough brusher even between the very back teeth. But it only works if all teeth surfaces are truly reached cleaned by the bristles, and I'm doubtful even then.
Basically, mouth water can't physically remove things any more than swishing water in your mouth could, it can only lower bacteria count and take away whatever the brushing loosened.
I can't imagine never flossing, sickening. There is physical material between your teeth you cant reach without flossing. Regardless of any proven benefit. Anyway, just because something isn't proven, doesn't mean it isn't true. Not like its been proven not to help.
It's been proven that it's pointless dude lol. Brush your teeth better and swish the mouthwash around well. If you have food in your teeth still, eat easier to break down food, your teeth aren't too strong.
Quick Google search. Pick your source. Second link for me had this choice quote
"Weak evidence for flossing doesnโt necessarily mean that flossing is ineffective, it just means there isn't positive evidence for flossing."
No positive. Which means it's pointless. Sure it doesn't hurt, what idiot would claim that, but to say it has benefits is just lying.
Also, I have bad teeth because of a family history of gum disease Smart Guy. Not because I don't floss.
I'm arguing against is because it's pointless. Even the dentists quoted in the article say it has no health benefits but why not do it? Well, why do it if it has no health beneifts? Btw, oral health includes bad breathe and plaque bud up.
That.. that's not what that means at all. You skipped over the part where you wrote "doesn't necessarily mean that flossing is ineffective". The studies are weak but it is because of the method of the study... not because flossing is weak... gum disease is not genetic. It is 100% preventable. Family members can transmit the bacteria that leads to gum disease to other family members. But through adequate brushing and flossing, you can prevent from obtaining the disease through a bacterial infection. You prevent it with brushing AND flossing. If you took time to read the studies on flossing, you would see how though they were proven to be weak in preventing TOOTH DECAY they were effective in decreasing bacteria. Bacteria is what is effecting your gums. Gingivitis is something different from tooth decay. Please please please go to the dentist and ask the hygienist to educate you a bit. Read some scholarly, peer reviewed articles on gum disease because you are seriously misinformed and/or seriously misunderstanding what you're reading.
Aksfsc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss every other night. I like feeling that there's space between my teeth and that feeling of cold water or mouthwash hitting those cleaned out areas of gum between your teeth. It's like an ice breakers commercial but real. Plus if you've ever smelt the gunk between your teeth, it's horrible.
Twice a day flosser checking in. Took years but finally forced it into a routine last year. Gone are the days of bad breath and bleeding gums when I brush. Flossing is the best.
zodar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped flossing because depressed, then got told what a good job I did at flossing- then got told that flossing is only really a thing in the US- I'm half convinced that flossing is a racket.
Daamus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i recently quit smoking and am trying to start flossing, guess which is harder to do?
081890 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do. Twice a day.
the-nub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do, twice a day. Because the stuff that sits in your mouth is fucking gross, and mouths are fucking gross, and if anyone wants to get up on my mouth they'd better take care of their shit-mouth.
GuiSim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you ask everyone you know about their oral hygiene habits? While I can't remember any instances of seeing my friends and a large number of my relatives floss (obviously relatives I lived with I saw floss at some point), it's because we do oral hygiene stuff at home in private. I'm wondering if you perhaps just assumed they don't because you've never seen them doing it?
Twice a day flossed here. Hadn't had dental insurance for 10+ years, just recently got it and my husband was betting me I'd have sooooo many cavities. Didn't have a single one, and it took half the time for them to clean mine than it did for them to clean his, and he goes every 6 months. Flossing is key!
I'm a chronic flosser. Keep those little dental floss pics with me all the time. One session of root planing was enough for a life time.
Pro tip: no matter how emphatic your shitty dentist is about not using anesthetic for that shit, it's a lie. Did one quadrant without before getting injections, the other three still hurt.
kosif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get those little disposable floss/pick things and keep them by the computer.
I do everyday, and I try to make my husband, who has gotten much better at it. It's hard not to feel like you have to step up your game, knowing the other person is inevitably going to notice your less rigorous routine. Two really great things about flossing regularly I've noticed: 1. After a while, you feel the need to do it because you become more sensitive to the feeling of having even the smallest bits of debris in your teeth. I even carry little flossers in my purse and lunch box just in case. 2. In a matter of a couple of weeks, it goes from a painful bloodbath to feeling like a little spa treatment/gum massage. The relief is amazing and I love feeling like I can swish water between every tooth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't until i got a bad case of gum disease. Not like those pictures on the wall of the dentist bad, just couldn't remember a time when my gums DIDN'T bleed randomly throughout the day. Thing is I talked to plenty of dentists and they blew it off. Some would just tell me to floss more but because they didn't tell me "YOU HAVE GUM DISEASE" I didn't take it seriously.
Welp two root canals and lots of gum treatments later, I take dental health a lot seriously. You don't understand how plesant it is to finally brush my teeth and not spit out blood. I floss every singly night and the glide brand of floss is my favorite. I don't really get anything out anymore but I'd rather be safe than sorry . (Or paying another few grand on dental care...)
I've always hated flossing. It makes my gums sting, and it never seems to get anything out. And I've never understood why it doesn't just shove stuff up towards the gums. Or how you floss anything besides your front teeth. And then people started saying that flossing actually isn't necessary anyway so now I don't even know.
I have a tiny gap in between two molars, so every single time I eat something with a little consistency (bread, meat, seeds, nuts et.) I get it stuck between my molars, so yeah I floss multiple times a day. Only floss over there though.
Zhuinden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anyone who flosses. Not even kidding. Who the hell flosses? Seriously though...
Sometimes I stop doing it but then I get a cavity that could have obviously been prevented by flossing and then I feel like an idiot.
NoDoThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Myself and my friends and family all floss.
Where are you from?
benhc911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i can't speak for them, and I floss daily because I care about my teeth, but perhaps they are referring to the transient bacteremia that occurs after flossing (but also after brushing)?
Not really sure of any other concern...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you read the article, numbnuts, you'd see that in the UK where floss is neither reccomended nor widely used there is no greater instance of tooth decay or gingivitis. Claiming "common sense" isn't a substitute for factual proof and there's plenty to suggest its totally unnecessary.
Isn't there some ADA thing going on right now where they're deciding that flossing does nothing extra if you brush well?
WgXcQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No need to discuss, can't be true. Source: my mouth.
My teeth are so close together that even floss sometimes gets stuck there, due to having a small mouth/short jaw and wearing a retainer as a pre-teen. So everything was pushed together to give a quite nice and straight visual impression, but there are areas the bristles simply can't reach between.
I'm actually looking at having four areas that need to be drilled out and filled in that are the sides of my teeth where they touch (so, eight fillings, because each case affects two teeth), because I used to only brush (thoroughly), but not floss, and in those areas a bacterial film could build.
It's invisible from the sides and top and was only caught before causing pain and possibly needing a root canal because my old dentist retired and her successor basically started out by x-raying each patient's teeth to get a baseline, and it is visible there. Flossing would've prevented it.
I had a patient drive himself to the neurology clinic who ended up being completely deaf, cortically blind in half his visual field, and demented to the point where he didn't know what decade it was.
JZPotter ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 01:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's honestly impressive
Sam-Gunn ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 14:33:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pedestrian wedged into his grill wasn't as impressed...
OhSolios ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 03:43:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you had someone go around to his place and find out what the hell was going on with his family. I mean why hadn't someone brought him in earlier.
Always with the hearing loss. When my grandpa was alive, I'd go visit him with my dad. I'd really have to weigh the importance of what I said before I said it, because between the 2 of them and their lack of hearing aids, I'd have to repeat myself 4 times.
Luckily one of my grandpas was a career military medic, so he knew when shit was wrong. My other one, though..he was like this. Sigh.
Treczoks ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:24:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Demented drivers are a real danger. And you cannot real help it.
Luckily, my father-in-law was taken out of the game early: He drove the car from the parking lot behind the house to the front, stopped, and then he just forgot how to drive a car. His wife then hid the keys until my wives brother came to take the car away.
I find this awfully ironic seeing as how we have multiple people WALKING in off of ambulances into our ER. Wishing your patient the best of luck moving forward, and not in a car, ever again.
From when I was a resident, working in the living hell that is the GYN-ER at a major Florida hospital.
Woman comes in complaining of missed periods. Hasn't had one in two months.
Me: Do you think there is any chance you may be pregnant?
Patient: No! That's impossible.
Me: Are you sexually active?
Patient: Yes, of course
Me: Do you use protection?
Patient: No.
Me: Do you think you might be pregnant??
Repeat for 15 minutes.
Edit: I swear, we could have reduced the number of visits to that ER by stapling a bag of pregnancy tests to the door with a sign saying "Think you're pregnant? Take one" and tacking a vaginal ultrasound probe to the door with a sign saying "Want a picture of the baby? We use this to take the ultrasound."
I think you're forgetting how ignorant the patients that you just described are.
If you stapled a bag of pregnancy tests to the door, your patients would take the tests, but inevitably try to use them by spitting into the tests or shoving the tests into the rectum.
There's always infertility.... :/ I love arguing with doctors who insist I could still be pregnant, even when I was actively under the care of a very attentive fertility doctor and obviously NOT pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 11:59:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My go to response is "Well, between being lesbian and with my lack of uterus I find the posibility quite low"
I understand why they ask, but that even after that I get the "are you sure?" is like, too much
They probably just don't believe that you were male. Flawless transition? or ignorant doctors/nurses?
You'll be surprised how many females that lie about being pregnant.
Siletzia ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 06:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry. I broke my ankle this past summer, and I was asked about 3 different times by 3 different nurses if I could possibly be pregnant before the x-ray. The last one asked twice, once to make sure I wasn't pregnant and then again when the date of my last period was. Her eyes nearly popped out when I said April (I then explained I had an IUD installed that month and she calmed down).
I'm currently studying radiography and I have to ask every female patient from ages 12-53 if they could be pregnant. If they're 11 I have to ask them if they've started having periods yet, and if they're just over 52 I have to ask if they've reached menopause yet. If we don't get a definite "yes" or "no", we won't do the x-ray until they've had a blood test (unless it's an emergency situation in which case we have to make them aware of the risks).
It can be really awkward (especially if it's a 14 year old girl whose mother is in the room), but it is drilled into us how serious it is that we're using ionising radiation on people. Plus people lie. All the damn time.
Siletzia ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 09:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, I understand. I'd rather be asked 3x than you miss someone's baby and fry it :( it's just a bit annoying for normal folk who know what's up. Like going through TSA or border stations. No I don't have weapons. No I don't have a gun or knife. No I don't have anything that could be used to stab and or shoot someone.
I'm not mad at people ensuring the health and safety of others, ot can just be a bit annoying. I'd never take it out on a tech but everytime I'm asked I start to wonder WTF was wrong with the person who was the reason for the rule. There's always someone, like the person in the thread OPs post.
catonic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, it's a lower dose than the backscatter X-ray machines at the airport...
I don't understand why people lie to medical staff... They're there to help you, not judge you, and they need all the information you could possibly give them in order to hopefully make their jobs easier.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:01:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello sister, I know the feel
pesh527 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:52:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cycle is super screwed up (anywhere from 29 to 53 days). So if I'm on day 40 I'm not worried. I went for an MRI and was asked if I was pregnant. I said no. Asked when my period ended. Told him when. His eyes bugged out. "Are you sure you're not pregnant?" "Yes, my cycle is messed up. " He made me sign some form acknowledging that I much be pregnant. He was an ass about it and I just wanted to get it over with so I signed. I guess it's not enough to insist that you know your body and know what is and isn't normal for it, as is evident in this thread.
Siletzia ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:15:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry that happened. Whenever I'm about to lose my patience with something like that I think of people like the OP of this thread was discussing. For every woman like you or me there is little Janey who thinks the first time doesn't count and douching with coke works to prevent pregnancy because all the sex ed she's gotten came from youtube comments. I'd rather they ask me three times than fry some poor fetus :/
My cycle has never been normal, and I've been on hormonal BC for a couple years. At one point it had been nearly a year since my period, and I'm an asshole, so when I went in for something unrelated - flu shot maybe? - and they asked for date of last menses I gave them the month and day... and then year. Poor fella went crosseyed at my lack of belly (I'm a fit petite lady) and said something like "you're not regular then?"
I apologized for scaring him and we had a good laugh about it. He did say not to worry, he was just caught off guard, but I still felt a little mean.
Jesus, you gals are giving me flashbacks to the time my ex went to the ER for abdominal pain. It went much like /u/narcolepticdoc's post, except she was BPD, so she had an episode and had to be sedated before she would take a pregnancy test. It turned out to be benign ovarian cysts of some kind, but I don't know what the big deal is about being damn sure you aren't pregnant before going further.
The doctor is not trying to insult you, or call you stupid, its called doing the due diligence. They know what they are doing and the order things should be done, for accuracy of diagnosis and safety. You signed that paper in the off chance you were pregnant, so you couldn't sue if following procedures created complications.
Shit, my parents tried for years to have kids, adopted, then ~ ten years later, my sister and I were born, long after they thought they were infertile. So who knows without confirming it.
TL;DR, just let the doctor do their thing, they aren't trying to insult you, they are doing their job.
SnArL817 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:46:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife always stuns doctors. "When was your last period?"
"2012"
Before that, it was 2005. Apparently, an endometrial ablation can heal.
A_Drusas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:36 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, pregnancy is pretty irrelevant for some women. Like myself. Even if I was and needed a test, I get the test. Not like the fetus is staying long.
In the U.K., if you were, you'd have to wait until you were no longer pregnant. People can change their minds about keeping a pregnancy and ionising radiation can cause birth defects. Obviously, emergency situations are different, but routine stuff that can wait would have to be put off.
Why didn't you say that in the first place instead of making a big deal about it? They aren't insulting your intelligence, they are doing their job.
Siletzia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:21:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did. Multiple times. Never assumed they were insulting my intelligence, just something they have to check because of people like the thread OP talked about. It's frustrating though sometimes. As I wrote in reply to another commenter below, I'd rather they ask me three times than fry someone's fetus. It's just kinda annoying at the time. Like if you cross a border and they ask 10x if you have anything illegal, any weapons, any knives or guns, etc etc.
quenishi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on the mini-pill. It's been nearly a year since I've had a period. Wonder how she'd take that.
lowdiver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And long term birth control methods... I have nexplanon. And until recently no sex for over a year. Still get panicked looks from nurses when the answer to "when was your last period" is 2 years...
Could a ER do that? Have someone at the front desk essentially hand out pregnancy tests? I know it would encourage people to come to get them but it might also save the doctors time for the Emergencies in the Room.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But seriously now that you reminded me we (for now) essentially already have this service there just needs to be better advertising for women going there instead of the ER.
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:16:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it's something helpful for women so god knows they won't shell the money out. But all the free condoms in the world.
It is just the spin you put on it! It isn't about helping women, it is about reducing hospital wait times. ;)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:18:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The idea of handing out free pregnancy tests just seems like a huge liability for a hospital. If somebody gets a false positive or negative, they would probably go after the hospital.
Now, within the context of a free clinic, that might fly. I dunno. IANAL.
catonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easily avoided by a plurality of tests. "You came up positive? Here, have four more. If they all come up positive, you're probably pregnant."
He wasn't wrong. It's extraordinarily unlikely, but still possible. Would require one of the vaginas in question to have recently been used on a penis, but it is possible.
quenishi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:12:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I was in that situation (very highly unlikely) I would totally ask which one of the two would be producing the sperm...
You know, I now feel better about the time a nurse did this with me back in high school.
Her: Do you think there is any chance you may be pregnant?
Me: No! I'm definitely not pregnant.
Her: Are you sure? If you want we can do a pregnancy test here.
Me: I'm sure. There's no way I could be.
Her: We don't have to tell your parents. The results can be private.
Me: I've never had sex.
Her: You do know there doesn't have to be any penetration to get pregnant, correct?
Me: . . .I've never even seen a penis in person.
At the time I was pretty uncomfortable with how she kept pressing, but now I realize she probably saw a lot of stupid pregnant teenagers.
femmerat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:38:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this line of questioning when I go to the doctor because my partner of 6 years is a trans guy. So, yes I'm sexually active with a man. I don't use birth control and no, I'm not gonna get pregnant. I'm like a riddle!
I think you met my sister-in-law. She was ~35, was gaining weight for "no reason", went to her Dr. and she asks "have you been having intercourse?" Nope. So tests, more tests... Finally they give up and do a pregnancy test - positive of course.
Dr - I thought you didn't have intercourse? Do you have sex? Oh, yes, I have lots of sex.
She thought she wasn't having periods because she thought she was in menopause @ 35 and didn't mention it.
I mean, to be fair, a lesbian couple could have unprotected sex without any concern for pregnancy, so her responses aren't necessarily ridiculous by default.
edit: none of the other replies to your comment showed up on mobile for me. my bad for being redundant :')
As an aside, it was policy at the hospital I worked at to never give ultrasound pics of the baby to the patient. There were so many times I enjoyed denying a mother a picture. It was my only form of revenge on the idiots who would sometimes roll into the ER. :(
That reminds me of some article I read about a woman suing a lab because she felt raped by the ultrasound tech. I guess she just didn't realize what she was in for when she went to get a transvaginal ultrasound.
It didn't help the situation that in my ER we couldn't afford to get proper ultrasound covers for the transvaginal probes, but had no shortage of the black "tuxedo" condoms with ribs and reservoir tips.
Oh. And the transvaginal probes these days are dainty little fairy wands with a little flare at the tip. Back then they looked like big thick cylinders with a rounded tip and a handle. We're talking thicker than a large banana here. I used to cringe just looking at them. Felt so sorry for the women who thought they'd come into the ER for a picture of the baby only to find that we didn't do transabdominal scans.
Look I gotta ask, how would of you felt if a woman came in and after the hellos just said out right "I'm positive I'm not pregnant cause I haven't had sex for months"?
Cause I understand why it's an important question but when I was in hospital I got very annoyed at the constant double asking and really wanted to say it from the get go.
No. She was an adult, straight, sexually active, pregnant, and ignorant of the basic link between unprotected sex and pregnancy. Or in denial of said link.
sevjac ยท 2795 points ยท Posted at 01:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient made an appointment and brought in his shit in a box. He was concerned about the size of his turd, and if it's normal. All he got from the visit was, "Normal turd. Yes, it's pretty wide."
Turd box was set out with biohazard waste. Waste guy thought it was a misplaced package and put it on the front desk. Secretary got quite the surprise that day..
What concerns me is that a waste guy found a box in the biohazard bin and decided to put it on the front desk. That has to be against some kind of protocol, right?
skooched ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 06:45:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was exactly my first thought, to me that seems like it could even be a firing offense. What if that had been infected with HIV? Or some other extremely dangerous biohazard
Edit: I am one of those ridiculous people, it couldn't have been HIV
President Elect Trump agrees with this statements a lot more than you do, sadly.
Whelpie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:24:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"If what I read on the internet is always true, and I can write anything I want on the internet, and then read it, then that means that anything I think is true!"
Forum_ ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 08:05:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV cannot survive outside the Human Body for more than a few seconds.
You still have a point, though. It could have been lots of dangerous things.
entenkin ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 08:24:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV can survive outside of the human body, for example in a vial of blood, for longer than a few minutes.
sevjac ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story is true, but to be honest I did not actually witness the taking of the turd box to the secretary's desk. But I definitely heard and then witnessed the shock of the package once reopened. Our best speculation was that the delivery/waste/custodial/etc personnel was the responsible party for moving it. ...but it certainly could be intra-office revenge and someone won't confess ..
Jack92 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:12:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Protocols are like experience, and to quote a Steven Wright joke "Experience is what you get right after when you needed it."
Protocols have to be put in place when common sense fails.
Man, I've never worked anywhere close to the medical profession, but I was briefly a personal trainer, and I had one client who kept trying to get me to look at her poop. I never managed to convince her that even if I were a nutritionist, I could not read her poop like tea leaves.
shelbeam ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:27:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is actually a thing though. In fact there are toilets that are designed to catch you poop on a shelf so you can examine it for signs of disease before you flush it.
ER nurse here. One time I had a young woman come in who was concerned for vaginal bleeding/abdominal pain. She thought she might have had a miscarriage, so she collected some of the "specimen" and brought it with her, unbeknownst to me.
I walked into her room to introduce myself and she handed me the bag, and said, "Here. This came out of me."
I wish there was an appropriate gif for my reaction (I wasn't wearing gloves or anything).
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gosh. I am cracking up imagining a deadpanned "Oh, here. This came out of me." And the look on your face.
sevjac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:24:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, don't vomit in a box. Even if it's the closest think to you when the urge suddenly strikes. You can ask me how I know but that should be obvious.
You got quite a story for your children there, mate, I'll give you that.
Pyperina ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:25:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The complete lack of first person perspective in this comment makes me doubt its veracity.
sevjac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story is true, but to be honest I did not actually witness the taking of the turd box to the secretary's desk. But I definitely heard and then witnessed the shock of the package once reopened. Our best speculation was that the delivery/waste/custodial/etc personnel was the responsible party for moving it. ...but it certainly could be intra-office revenge and someone won't confess ..
Cwmcwm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He just wanted to know if he could take a dick that wide.
arenalr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously underrated story
tl7lmt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that's great. Made me laugh out loud, mostly because I know a cranky gossipy old hag of a sec't I'd like to see that happen to.
betcha waste guy was that guy and was getting back at you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did the newspapers think it was a hate crime or something?
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Biohazard waste guy didn't consider checking whether potential biohazard was in fact a biohazard before setting it on the front desk in the middle of a hospital?
The part about the package is fabricated. Otherwise that man would have lost his job immediately. Additionally, wouldn't a box with a huge turd in it smell horrendous?? Not to mention the fact that the box itself had been in contact with other biohazardous materials and if he had set it on a desk he would be contaminating said desk and putting persons at risk. I call bullshit.
freym ยท 4746 points ยท Posted at 22:30:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sex can lead to pregnancy and STDs so always wear protection. But oral won't at all, so suck as many dicks as you want! Just go crazy!"
Edit: I am completely aware you can get STDs from oral sex, you're not the first to reply with "actually..."
Edit2: Sweet, of course my highest rated comment is about sucking all of the dicks...
shizzamX ยท 889 points ยท Posted at 22:52:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I took sex ed they went over the types of sex like oral sex and just said that you can't get pregnant that way. They of course still warned that you can get STIs that way.
DrBBQ ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 00:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They of course warned that you can get STIs thatway.
Yeah right? I didn't learn anything about sex either, I had to learn on my own as an adult. Stuff like, if you insert a finger and touch the girl's G-spot while you're licking her clitoris, she'll probably enjoy it more. None of my teacher's ever told me any of this.
I honestly don't think they even mentioned that a penis goes in a vagina during my sex Ed course.
shizzamX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We actually took a trip to some amphitheater where some lady told us stuff and answered questions. I think they did this to get through it more quickly, about 1/3 of the whole grade/age group could go at a time.
Seralth ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Twyxxi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when I was working with this girl that was about a year younger than me (I was 20 at the time), and it was slow at work so we were just gossiping about whatever, when the topic of "flavored condoms" came up, and her response was,
"I just don't understand why they exist." I, of course, just shrugged it off and said "for oral, duh". She then gave me this super patronizing look and went,
"Ooooh, sweetie. You don't get pregnant from oral." It was then that I got the joy of explaining to her what an STD was.
shizzamX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, what? Can u really? I had oral sex (getting a bj) without condom a ton of times and it never happened? Like, saliva doesn't carry hiv, does it?
shizzamX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:32:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From wiki "Infection with HIV occurs by the transfer ofย blood,ย semen,ย vaginal fluid,ย pre-ejaculate, orย breast milk." it's not carried by saliva so unless you have an abrasion of some sort on your dick I don't think you can get it, but if you have it, your partner will be infected.
That was NOT why it was illegal. The link to throat cancer wasn't discovered until way into the 20th century.
Anyone that believes that that was why sodomy was illegal has been sold a bill of goods.
BTW Pretty much all abstinence-only sex education was filled with pseudoscience designed to keep kids from having sex. I hope that's not how you got the impression you have about sodomy.
Have you ever considered that perhaps you have been sold the bill of goods? People weren't total nimrods prior to the 20th century, you know. And abstinence obviously doesn't work perfectly or there would be no bastards born out of wedlock. It exists to discourage it. Everyone knows that, but it's definitely a good thing for people to wait until they are married.
but it's definitely a good thing for people to wait until they are married.
That's just your opinion though. I don't think you can prove for a fact that it's better for people to wait until they are married. Abstinence doesn't work because fucking is literally one of the most pleasurable experiences to have with someone else; we're genetically programmed to want to bang. A strategy that depends on everyone arresting their natural urges until they are married seems a lot weaker than one in which people can still have sex but have the tools to avoid "bastards out of wedlock".
Tools which are not guaranteed to work 100% of the time and which many consider to be immoral due to their religious beliefs. And people solve that problem by not waiting until they're well into their thirties to get married. Marriage isn't something that anyone should fear if you marry the right spouse.
Xamry14 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:01:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you want people to be in a rush to get married so they can finally get laid but expect them to still find 'the right one'?
Maybe stop making everything about getting laid? There's much more to life than sex, and I'd personally prefer a woman I love that I talk to and share my life with over an easy STD-ridden fucktoy personally, but maybe that's just me.
Xamry14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:32:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting laid isn't everything but it's still a strong drive. Plus how can you know if your compatible with someone sexually if you've never done it?
Its human nature. Just because you want sex doesn't mean that's all your after. You can love someone and still want to hop in the sack with them. Actually love would escalate those feelings. Problem is just because you love someone doesn't mean you can love with them forever.
Love isn't always enough. And it takes years to really learn a person sometimes. That's way too long to wait for most. So if they HAD to wait till marriage I guarantee people would rush the process. Maybe even without knowing the real reason but it would happen.
Abstinence isn't effective either cause of the virgin Mary and people still have sex despite abstinence cause their fucking teenagers so teach proper sex ed because abstinence doesn't work
As a teenager, back in the 90s I worked in a video store. Co-workers were mostly teenage girls with a few 20-something managers.
One of the girls, 16, had just been to her first big party and after imbibing a few too many coolers, decided that she'd just suck dicks the rest of the night. She got through three and was chasing her fourth when her friends carted her away.
A bunch of my co-workers sat her down to have a talk about (as my gf put it) the importance of "being a lady".
Right at the end, one manager (25 or so) goes on to tell her, in complete seriousness, that she should also get a pregnancy test.
Two people learned something that day.
AndyGHK ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:29:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Five dicks, ten dicks, twenty dicks, as many as you want at a time!
WJ90 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:42:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call it "middle out."
lllamma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, think again. Lots of school districts have effectively been barred from requiring HPV vaccines because kids' parents are afraid it'll make them think it's ok to have sex.
What's sad is this reminds me of a girl I knew who's mom told her to only have anal sex before marriage so she would still be a virgin...religious people can make up some crazy stuff.
This is what drives me absofuckinglutly insane whenever I watch umm, er... sex videos and the guy is wearing a condom while he's penetrating the beautiful lass but as soon as he is ready to cum, condom gets removed, girl will graze the dick with her tongue while the guy jerks off, then guy ejaculates in girls mouth and she swallows the load whole...
Why was there ever a condom?!?!?!
Handburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the lack of sex ed? I took 3 sex ed classes by the time I was 16. How is this still not a thing everywhere? Lots of parents will never talk to their children about this. that makes it easy to blame the parents for not educating children, but it's a perpetual cycle of uneducated kids having kids they cannot educate. When they become a public problem, isn't it something that needs to be available publicly?
I had a friend convinced of this as well. She was sure that the semen could enter the bloodstream from the stomach and get a person pregnant. We were in college.
KinseyH ยท 2265 points ยท Posted at 20:59:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While in college (early 80s) I had a roommate - brilliant, shy and sheltered Catholic girl who spent 12 years with nuns - who was horrified and appalled at the urban legends/stories about frat initiations involving sex with donkeys or goats or whatever animal would be involved depending on who told the story.
Not just because the animal might be injured but what if the poor thing got pregnant???
Note - this girl spoke 3 or 4 languages, had a ridiculously hight SAT score, and entered LSU as a junior.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1228 points ยท Posted at 22:41:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not just because the animal might be injured but what if the poor thing got pregnant???
All those poor poor abandoned donkey-men! You see them everywhere! STOP THE HAZING!
tpwwp1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:40:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He has an official document stating he doesn't have donkey brains
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He could still have donkey lungs or something, he never got a certificate for that.
tpwwp1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true, although that would almost certainly have come up, as they were already discussing Frank being part donkey
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:58:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This could also explain the Pig Man Kramer spotted in the hospital on Seinfeld.
Shikra ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:54:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Sheep-Child
Farm boys wild to couple
With anything with soft-wooded trees
With mounds of earth mounds
Of pine straw will keep themselves off
Animals by legends of their own:
In the hay-tunnel dark
And dung of barns, they will
Say I have heard tell
That in a museum in Atlanta
Way back in a corner somewhere
There's this thing that's only half
Sheep like a woolly baby
Pickled in alcohol because
Those things can't live his eyes
Are open but you can't stand to look
I heard from somebody who ...
But this is now almost all
Gone. The boys have taken
Their own true wives in the city,
The sheep are safe in the west hill
Pasture but we who were born there
Still are not sure. Are we,
Because we remember, remembered
In the terrible dust of museums?
Merely with his eyes, the sheep-child may
Be saying saying
I am here, in my father's house.
I who am half of your world, came deeply
To my mother in the long grass
Of the west pasture, where she stood like moonlight
Listening for foxes. It was something like love
From another world that seized her
From behind, and she gave, not lifting her head
Out of dew, without ever looking, her best
Self to that great need. Turned loose, she dipped her face
Farther into the chill of the earth, and in a sound
Of sobbing of something stumbling
Away, began, as she must do,
To carry me. I woke, dying,
In the summer sun of the hillside, with my eyes
Far more than human. I saw for a blazing moment
The great grassy world from both sides,
Man and beast in the round of their need,
And the hill wind stirred in my wool,
My hoof and my hand clasped each other,
I ate my one meal
Of milk, and died
Staring. From dark grass I came straight
To my father's house, whose dust
Whirls up in the halls for no reason
When no one comes piling deep in a hellish mild corner,
And, through my immortal waters,
I meet the sun's grains eye
To eye, and they fail at my closet of glass.
Dead, I am most surely living
In the minds of farm boys: I am he who drives
Them like wolves from the hound bitch and calf
And from the chaste ewe in the wind.
They go into woods into bean fields they go
Deep into their known right hands. Dreaming of me,
They groan they wait they suffer
Themselves, they marry, they raise their kind.
salbris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not so sure about that. While they are certainly not equal someone with greater intelligence will be quicker to turn experiences into wisdom and in some cases circumvent the need for wisdom.
Intelligence is knowing its a one way street. Wisdom is looking both ways anyway.
JtheE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:09:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favourite is (slightly paraphrased) from Miles Kington: intelligenceย is knowing that aย tomatoย is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in aย fruit salad. :)
Intelligence is knowing that the monster isn't Frankenstein. Wisdom is knowing that Frankenstein is the monster.
salbris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a nice cute phrase but it's just black and white. When I hear these phrases I get worried because people start to have this idea that intelligence is about knowing things where in reality it's about problem solving and being able to think logically rather than with your instinct or experience.
Nah. Knowledge is knowing it's a one way street. Intelligence is the ability to figure that out without being told. Wisdom is looking both ways anyway.
God can't see where the sun don't shine, so it's not a sin!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Years back at my work, I was in the employee cafeteria and just mindlessly watching TV while eating. There was a show on with a short bit about a dog and a deer that had made friends and wee frolicking together. This was not Disney, this was someone's actual dog that was being showcased.
Anyway, about two minutes into this, my boss-at-the-time pipes up that (all paraphrasing since I don't remember exact words) "It's all fun and games until they have a half-dog-half-deer baby."
Me - "what?"
Her - "You know if they have sex and make a baby."
Me - (giving the incredulous stare) "Dogs and Deer can't have babies together. They're entirely different animals."
Her - "Then why can Llamas and Alpacas? I saw a show where they had a baby."
Me - "Those are closely related animals. Dogs and Deer are nowhere near closely related enough!"
Something to that effect. Even when another coworker backed me up, she still wasn't fully convinced. Of course, this was the same person who once told me that she thought that most diseases were because of demon possession; I was really questioning how she got to her position with thoughts like that.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here for religious people things, wasn't disappointed.
onedoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you think Kick-Start got their PuppyMonkeyBaby from??
phil8248 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised. It is a common tale for Catholic girls to do anal to remain virgins till they marry. Must have attended a school where that wasn't a thing. Or no one told her.
You know how when you first start your period it isn't very regular? Well, my mom took to my first period much like the mom in Carrie, so I didn't get much info, but she did give me a book that basically explained in 4 weeks you'll get it again or you may be pregnant.
4 weeks comes and goes and nothing happens. I keep waiting. Two months go by. I don't understand how I can be pregnant because I'm like 11 and have never had sex, but I assume that can still happen since it happened to the Virgin Mary soo...
I spent another few weeks praying to figure out how to tell my parents. I knew they'd be mad and I didn't know how to prove I hadn't done anything wrong. Thankfully in that time my period started. Because can you imagine me finally sucking it up and actually having a sit down to tell my parents I was pregnant like Mary? Holy shit balls.
Long story short, they need to explain more shit to Catholic kids about how this stuff works.
I recall reading an article about how they gave various groups of people a sex education test.
It was a bit surprising how some of the best educated people and even had kids were kind of ignorant on a lot of sex issues.
Including nurses, doctors, etc.
If I recall correctly, there was one documented case of a pregnancy after a blow job. Shorty after swallowing she had been stabbed with a knife that perforated her stomach, and the sperm were able to enter the peritoneal cavity and swim down a Fallopian tube.
Edit: Should have scrolled down further...
Knofbath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in that one weird case where the girl got stabbed in the stomach.
Some straight A students I know are very unfamiliar with all sexual-related things. Being ignorant about sex doesn't mean that they are stupid/boring/not supposed to enter college.
That reminds me, one of my suitemates last year had a girl over and asked her for a blowjob. She agreed, but only if he put on a condom first
Of course, being the typical horndog you'd expect as a freshman fratboy. He got his dick sucked with a condom on. No way either party enjoyed it but he bragged about it the next morning
This is why a Bachelor's is worthless in the job market
dblthnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think that would work if she was a bedbug, and they get stab raped.
oj449 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a case of someone getting pregnant through oral, but it was due to being stabbed some time after in such a way her stomach lining was punctured and leaked into her uterus
fewdea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but what did happen once, was right after the blowjob her pissed boyfriend came in and saw her with the other guy and stabbed her, and the semen made its way through the stab wounds
and to top it off, she had to have a c-section because she didn't have a vagina due to some kind of birth defect.
I promise I'm not a troll, but this is "technically" possible.
I was reading about this rare occurrence where a woman was born with a defect where she didn't have a vagina (but had all the stuff inside) and she became pregnant from oral sex. How the doctor's talked about it, they think there was an opening in some lining or something where the sperm travelled through.
Anyway yeah...there's that antidote! lol
Yurei2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:43:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why democracy is a terrible idea. People that dumb and uninformed get to vote...
Slightly off topic, but there is at least one case of a girl getting pregnant from sucking dick...but before you think I'm bat shit, just read the article. Basically, the girl gave oral sex, was subsequently stabbed, and the stab wound allowed the semen to go from her GI tract into the uterus. I was only able to find a Discover Magazine blog post, but I recall reading the medical journal article when this story first hit reddit.
EDIT: I forgot the best part; the girl didn't have a vaginal opening.
Okay, I understand it dripping down there, but isn't it really hard for semen to climb that high up without assistance?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:05:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a pregnancy scare, but my boyfriend refused to believe that his semen could have dripped on down. I immediately felt when it happened and told him that I was worried....2 months later, no period. I told him I was worried, and he was all "nope, not possible"
I, thankfully, did not get pregnant, but it's good to know that someone can validate those damn worries.
I remember reading the article. The pregnancy went undiagnosed for a long time because of this fact. Simple birth defect, happens more often than you would think. But because she couldn't have intercourse the doctors thought it was complications from the stabbing.
Have you considered a career as a new Dr. Seuss for our dark, horrible age?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you stab someone enough times and hard enough to puncture their gut and their uterus, you did a little more than "prick them" (in the non-Shakespearian sense of that word).
Of course it could have been anal sex and a single hard stab to the lower abdomen that did the trick. In fact, that's what I would suspect given the digestive nature of the upper GI tract (I have a really hard time believing that viable sperm could make it half way through the upper gut.
guto8797 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Langly- ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stabber should be the one to pay child support then.
Siphon1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:48:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So she got pregnant without a vag opening. I wonder would happen when the baby was ready to be born and they never knew it was a pregnancy. Like what if a c section wasn't a thing all we knew were vagibal births.
Having a period, ovulating, and maintaining a pregnancy is controlled by hormones that our bodies produce--certain pieces are less important than others.
I got my fallopian tubes removed after our second child. They only deliver the sperm to the egg and then the fertilized cells to the uterus. If I really want another one, I can still get pregnant through IVF because they don't need my tubes (they would take a needle and retrieve the eggs from the mature follicles in my ovaries, fertilize them, then stick them into my uterus.) So just think of the vagina like a big fallopian tube. As long as you have pieces needed for incubation, you technically don't need anything else as long as you can deliver the fertilized cells into the incubator (uterus.)
swohio ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:11:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he was asking because he is under the impression that a woman's cycle is the uterus creating the necessary environment for implantation, then cleaning itself out and recreating the proper environment again. If she didn't have a cycle, wouldn't that lend to an environment that would be less suitable for pregnancy?
"It is likely that the patient became pregnant with her first or nearly first ovulation otherwise one would expect that inspissated blood in the uterus and salpinges would have made fertilization difficult."
trilobot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:23:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I wanna know is how on fucking Earth a uterus with a severe stab wound is going to successfully implant an ovum.
Your question is a really good one (and part of the reason I'm convinced this is a made up story and I mention it all in this comment), but I think the overlooking of a stab wound that horrendously severe is the bigger problem.
Female anatomy is quite complicated down there, there's various different bits and pieces that go together to form a set. One piece can be missing or defective or something like that, but the other parts still work fine. Think of the vagina as like an access shaft for the penis to get closer to where the magic happens. Sometimes you can't get a penis in there, but other processes can still occur (like periods).
(Note that the penis itself is like a cannon that shoots the useful stuff from somewhere else into the useful place, so the vagina is like the inverse of that)
Imagine a penile defect where you can't get an erection, but everything else still works. This is not that, but does the analogy help at least?
It was the idea that was important, not the anatomical accuracy of the analogy. The impediment to reproduction was not in the back-end, it was in the interface mechanism. I suppose if you wanted to get more accurate you could have a narrow urethra, but I wanted something that prevented vaginal intercourse.
Oh. The way I was looking at it was no vaginal opening=no penis getting in/period getting out. No urethral opening=no ejaculate getting out.
Well. This has been a discussion I never thought I'd have...
falble ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:38:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No? She would still have a urethral opening. I'm not really sure how she would shed uterine lining though, since the article said she just had a dimple there.
There was something similar during the American Civil War; female bystander was hit by shrapnel, became pregnant. Since there were no men/proven(?)virgin, nun, or whatever, doctors realized that the bullet that had struck her abdomen had first struck a soldier's testicle. Bullet had sperm, sperm hit female, 9 months later Sadie's got a lot of 'splainin' to do. I read this in some historical Civil War magazine decades ago so I don't know if this was a fable or an actual occurrence.
"Dave, you ready? Got the magazines, lotion, and bullets? Need some privacy? Terrell, you got the gun ready? Okay, Dave, Terrell, let us know when you guys are uh, ready..."
Luvagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep it sounds like Sadie's very creative 'virgin mary' story.
I'm not a doctor and it was months of not years ago this article was in the news, but, from memory, she had all the other parts. Either she was young and this was literally her first cycle, or the body was reabsorbing the mensus. I think it was the latter
Gonna say she must have been living under a tremendous umbrella of happenstance. Swallows. Stabbed. No Uterine Opening. I mean each of those is 1 in a million.
Wait, wait, wait. She didn't have a vaginal opening, but was also able to become pregnant. Would she still menstruate if she was able to have a baby? Where would it go though? I'm sure it's obvious, but I'm not exactly an expert on the female body, so can someone explain this to me?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:01 on June 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thiney49 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess we solved the case of the Virgin birth?
mzyos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like an imperforate hymen. Every so often I get patients (young teenagers) in severe abdominal pain, which gets worse with each month but with no periods. In these cases they have a hymen (membrane of skin around the opening of the vagina that is tightly shut, and usually bulging from the pressure of all the menstrual blood contained. You take them to theatre and open it up releasing all the blood and letting the menstruate normally.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
life, uh, finds a way
LukaCola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't they like... Surgically add one? I feel like most women would want that, but I dunno I guess.
He/she said, "I forgot the best part; the girl didn't have a vaginal opening."
mlmd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually create an opening so a woman can have her period. So if there was no opening and one wasn't created she for some reason wasn't having her period to begin with and thus would not be able to conceive
Yeah, that's not really an "oops, forgot to mention" fact. Wtf.
Islero47 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that you know this story you'll be amazed how often you relate it (btw, find a source to link). Eventually you'll be in disbelief that you're the only person to know the story, you've told it so many times, and you'll forget that she had no vaginal opening.
I can live without googling that, but I really wanna know, is it like when a hymen is too strong, or are there no lady parts on the outside?
What I'm trying to say, is it correctable for them?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, it's just like having your taint go all the way up with nothing Inbetween, they piss out their belly button
DrSuviel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw the "hauser" in there and thought of Doogie Howser, figuring maybe they were all fictional doctors. But nope, that's really what the condition is called.
jjy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, this was most likely due to female genital mutilation, considering that the report is from Lesotho in 1987. It's probably not MayerโRokitanskyโKรผsterโHauser syndrome because the report states that the uterus is normal, whereas in MRKH, the uterus would be missing if the vagina didn't develop.
"rather than healing your stab wound, we attached a zipper... you'll thank us later... don't look at me like that, if it were up to Bill over there, you'd have got velcro!"
What's concerning me here is that you have to be able to menstruate to have a baby, right? If she had no opening, where was all her unused uterine lining going?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:47:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe people with this condition may sometimes have a very small opening that allows for passage of the uterine lining.
I'm also not sure about this girl's exact diagnosis, but here is a page on Mayer-Rokitansky-Kuster-Hauser Syndrome (what a name!) which causes missing or malformed female reproductive organs.
Well, right. I actually have a similar problem, so my condolences (if it's something affecting you as well). My point was that in order to have a baby, at least one factor is a fresh lining in the uterus. So I was wondering, well, basically how that would work...?
I ... am too afraid to ask doc questions about my fertility (am only 24, not ready for babies) - but I was having hella pms and have the orangutan gene :(
Perhaps the fresh lining isn't being shed, but re-absorbed? sounds nice, actually.
This sometimes happens in farm animals--I read a case study of a vet going to check a female pig's temperature, and after rummaging around in the dark, found that the pig had no anus. Turns out the anus was located in the vagina and it was passing poo in that way.
It can happen the other way around (vagina inside anus) as well.
Raknarg ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I go through my life and die without raising a child I will be quite sad
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dantonn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:56:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your cars are shitting anywhere, I think you should call your mechanic.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐WHAT ๐๐ฟIF MY MECHANIC๐ฉ๐ฟโ๐๐ฉ๐ฟโ๐BE SHITTIN๐ ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐กALL OVER FAM?๐ค๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฆ
Raknarg ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:02:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to raise a human that has my genetics and try to make it better than I ever was, and see where this ridiculous thing called life takes them, to see their mistakes and their achievements, see how they're like me and how they become their own individual. That will offer more satisfaction than any number of cars could ever offer.
I grew up poor, and I've experienced wealthy. Money is the least important thing in this world.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Raknarg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious if this was the first time this happened - or if it happened before, but with a functional vagina, so no one noticed or believed the woman.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:07:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Joseph you just stabbed me!"
"Oh sorry babe, got a bit caught up in the moment."
"Heck, I'm bleeding everywhere. Ow ow ow... OMG can you see that anGEl!?ยฟยก!?ยฟ!?"
"Mary, you're hallucinating, it's the pain. Hold this against the wound..."
"HELLO ANGEL"
"Mary, hold still,"
"Jo! Did you hear the angel? He said I'm going to have a BAbY!"
"I doubt that..."
"I'm going to call it JESuS!"
"Okay love... careful, CAREFUL of the cut;; you're going to get -- too late."
I mean, first you have to look likely it is for a torso stab wound to be angled in that way - which has to be obscenely low. Then you have to look at the chance that it would occur, in that scenario - which is probably not high. Then you have to look at the frequency of a woman giving a guy a blowjob, swallowing, and then being stabbed in the torso pretty much immediately - which I can't imagine is anything more than ridiculously uncommon.
Multiply that all out, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was the first time. At the very least, it must be just incredibly rare.
Human bodies are incredibly varied even when not "deformed". Abnormalities like that, whilst rare, are to be expected in a population as vast as that of Homo sapiens sapiens.
The condition of the patient improved rapidly following routine postoperative care and she was discharged home after 10 days.
I'm honestly impressed that nowadays someone can take a gut wound with stomach perforation, a fatal injury in pre-modern times, and get discharged in 10 days.
This is just too absurd. A fertilization through stabbing wasn't improbable enough, it had to happen to someone who couldn't have gotten pregnant normally, and to coincide with her very first ovulation... I'm torn between "this can't be real" and "you can't make this up".
Thought your comment was going to be about this story at first.
Tl;dr: Female doctor has oral sex with male doctor then proceeds to store his sperm in her mouth and later inseminates herself with it. Two years later she sues the male doctor for child support and actually wins. Crazy story.
trilobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My science senses were tingling about this. A lot of it seems fishy to me.
For one, Muellerian agensis (a member of my family has that condition!) is not something that easily goes by undiagonsed, and often results in a lack of a uterus as well. It is not the only way to have a "sealed shut vagina" however.
But if the uterus is ticking away as per normal, it'll result in having periods. All that uterine fun has to go somewhere, and if it doesn't, it can <A> be a hazard to the girl or <B> prevent pregnancy from happening at all.
Now it was mentioned that the patient may have been on her first or close to first ever period.
So here's the lineup of events that gotta happen. A young girl (probably, some girls get their periods quite late but that's not enormously common either so I'm trying to be generous with my sequence of improbably events!)
As I said, a young girl who's not yet had her period is busy blowing guys. Or at least one. This is possible, but a tad unlikely as she's probably quite young.
Then, said girl, has to get stabbed. With a knife. Who stabs little girls? Some people do, but the vast majority of stabbing victims are not hapless children. No real need to stab a child for any reason other than crazy person murder time (you don't kill a child for their wallet, you kill them because you've got PTSD or something and you know them personally). This again is an unlikely situation.
Then the jizz in her gullet has to survive the GI tract. Not just the stomach, but all the blood as well. It doesn't take much pH imbalance to kill sperm, and saliva dissolves quickly in chyme and blood, so ... them spermies are all gonna die. Nevermind the temperature change. Sperm would not last alive inside the stomach for long. especially if you drank water after, and who doesn't get a sip of water after a load is blown in their mouth?
Then they have to find their way into the uterus, which must also have been stabbed. Either the wound is severe enough to open the stomach and the uterus, or the wound is low enough that it penetrated the intestine and the uterus, or the weapon was a sword and not a knife and the wound, at the right angle, was deep enough to penetrate the stomach and the uterus. Good fucking luck surviving that in ... where was this? Lesotho in the 70s?! HA! Good fucking luck indeed!
Then those acid attacked spermies gotta book it from one wound to the next, through the vast chasm of the abdominal cavity, without getting lost (remind you they have no brains and cannot tell they're lost).
Then they gotta hit an intact and not damaged in any way uterus that's ovulating for the first time ever and fertilize the egg (an no, it does not "just take one" it takes a whole fucking lot of them because they gotta break through the egg's barrier by suicide bombing it until one finally makes it through).
So recap.
Young girl, still playing hopscotch.
Blows a dude (may not be consensually but for the sake of my sanity I'll hope it was).
Within the hour gets stabbed with a wound severe enough to penetrate gut and womb yet not severe enough to kill her.
Her uterus must be penetrated by a bladed object, but heal so rapidly it allows almost instant impregnation. Remember, uteruses are an organ, and organs fucking bleed like mad when stabbed.
Sperm in her GI tract must survive the varying pH levels and temperatures.
Then make the Leap of Faith from the gut to the uterus (nevermind the current of blood flowing about and knocking them all off course).
All on her first period ever.
In fucking Lesotho. In the 70s (all the papers I can find, including the one on the DiscoBlog are comments about the original publication). Lesotho is not known for being a place of wondrous healthcare. A country where most of its serious injuries are sent to another country to be dealt with, and where many people still live in poverty or rural areas.
I'm not buying this story at all. It sounds way to apocryphal to me.
I really hate to say this, because this seems like a reputable site that may be quoting from a less than reputable source. I have absolutely no reason to feel this other than every fibre of my being is screaming bullshit to this story.
phil8248 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girls can become pregnant from semen ejaculated at the mouth of the vagina. So technically a virgin could conceive if her boyfriend rubbed one out against her belly or legs or just shot his load near her cooch.
My ex thought that, but kept doing it and never questioned why she didn't get pregnant until somehow it came up in a conversation like a year into the relationship.
You should have told her that it could that that's the only way you were willing to inseminate her, you could have gotten a blowey every day for a few months but you missed out!!!
I've mentioned this on here before, but my boyfriend once told me men could get pregnant. Alone. A man born as a man.
He really likes fucking with people for fun, so I am still not sure if this was some one of those instances. I certainly hope so.
I recall saying to him, "Our sewers would be rife with discarded infants," which, unsurprisingly, seemed to hold no weight in one of the stupidest conversations I've ever had with an adult. Or human. Or living being. Or dirt, whatever.
In her defense, almost every woman I know who has been pregnant did suck dick at some point.
rzNicad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually taught this in Sex Ed in middle school. Fortunately, common sense (and changing schools) prevailed, but still. What the balls is wrong with people?
That's nothing,when my grandmother was 15 she thought you could get pregnant from a kiss. It's all because her parents always said to her the path to parenthood starts with a kiss.
I had the sex talk with my younger sister and about 8 of her friends one day.
It started out as a joke. She was on the phone with one friend and they asked me a silly question that they thought they knew the answer to. I realized that they were idiots and before I knew it, I was answering questions for all their friends.
Anyway, not a single one got pregnant in high school. I'm taking partial credit for that because they were some hoes.
Like, even if they had some uber religious-motivation sex ed that had a nun at the top of the class saying "you can even get pregnant from sucking dick" was there no thought to this when learning about human digestion and respiration? No bells rung when talking about the oesophagus being a one street trip from mouth to stomach? No consideration about the hydrochloric acid in the stomach and the enzymes that break down virtually everything biological?
JayRulo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hidano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex gfs best friend told us she wouldn't swallow during oral sex because she thought you would get pregnant from the sperm going into her stomach. Guess she didn't pay attention in sex ed class.
Seralth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to be that guy... But there was that one case where a girl sucking dick got walked in on by her boyfriend and found her cheating. A knife fight ensued and she was stabbed in the gut. Seamen found theit way into her gut and then to an egg. She ended up pregnant.
I should also mention she had "no vagina". So your sister should just make sure to not get into knife fights right after giving head.
Life is stranger then fiction never doubt the stupid that is the world.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Blairbitch: Where did you get you MD? Blair Witch College?
Tranger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she can if she has coitus before or after the sucking.
I was 17 when I found out that you couldn't. I was raised by my father so my sex talk was "don't do it," and we moved when I was in sixth grade so I missed sex education at school because it was coming up in the next semester where I was and finished in my new health class.
Sex Ed at my school taught me that you damn well COULD.
Their reasoning was that if a girl is around sperm, then you can't 100% guarantee she won't get pregnant. They never came out and said it but I'm assuming they meant it might land on or near the vulva and swim upstream from there.
Abstinence- only ed was a blast.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she's looking for a sperm donor, I suppose I could volunteer.
In high school one of my friends was in a relationship with a chick. They were pretty serious at the time, one of those high school couples that act like they are married. They didn't have sex because of the risk of pregnancy (which was responsible and noble and all that) but they DID do oral. That is, until, we told the girl that there was a small chance of pregnancy if the sperm manages to swim through her and into her uterus. We convinced her that it rarely happens because of how difficult it would be to swim through a person before the body got rid of it as waste. Anyways we convinced her this was a possibility and that her boyfriend (our friend) was lying to her so he could get oral. We also convinced her that telling him where she got this information wouldn't be good because then our friend would be mad at us for "spilling the beans to her" and that we were having her back by telling her and that we were only doing it because our friend was being selfish and risking her getting pregnant. Needless to say our friend went from bragging constantly about getting more action then us to constantly bitching that his girlfriend wouldn't put out anymore.
My 10-year-old recently asked that exact question, and I thought it was a not-so-bright question from even her at first. Then she explained that she didn't know if things you swallow might pass through the same passages as things that go in other orifices (which actually made some sense, if you don't have a great hanle on anatomy), and then I remembered that she's 10, and realized that the question was just fine for her age.
My ex girlfriend thought the same thing, it was her nurse mum that had told her that (I think as a scare tactic tbh, unless she actually thought that with her nursing background) my ex freaked out after getting food poisoning (a day after we had messed around which meant her telling her parents to my parents.
Oh btw we were both in college
And that's part of how my extremely religious parents almost killed me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Possible, maybe tell her not to be such a messy eater.
I got my period before sex ed was taught at our school. I thought it meant I was pregnant, and since I was a virgin, someone must have broken in and raped me. When I told my mom, at 11, that I was pregnant, she figured I was a slut from then on. I didn't lose my virginity until College.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mouth babies
ZDH266 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something my teacher in grade 10 tried to tell me.
If you can't get pregnant from oral sex, then why are there oral contraceptives?!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was playing dumb
yaxamie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a bad idea to risk that with your sister even if the odds are low.
MelloD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex who was 20 at the time thought this too. I could not convince him that pregnancy only happened if you had penetrative (IN THE VAGINA) sex. He refused to have blow jobs or sex.
....its actually true. Very low fucking chance though; one instance (swallowed first note) a woman got stabbed in an alleyway, hospitalized and found she was pregnant
"At your age, you're going to have a lot of urges. You're going to want to take off your clothes, and touch each other. But if you do touch each other, you will get chlamydia... and die." I love coach carr
I mean theoretically, a girl going down on a guy, making out with him and then him returning the favor could result in a pregnancy, but the stars would need to alone twice for that to happen
My little sister (who was 14 or 15 at the time) would masterbate with a condom on her vibrator because "in sex ed they tell you to use a condom every time'
Well to be fair the more dick you suck, the more likely you are to get pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother once told a female friend of his that she could get pregnant from oral sex if there was a hole in the lining of her stomach and it was absorbed into her through other means.
JimDixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the HBO movie "Wishful Drinking" (which is actually a monologue performed before a live audience) Carrie Fisher reported that her mother, Debbie Reynolds, actually believed that artificial insemination happens by getting an injection into your arm, like a flu shot. Fisher had to tell her own mother that you can't get pregnant that way. (There's more to the story that's even more bizarre, but it's not relevant to this thread.)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My bestfriend was a registered nurse when she had me go with her to buy a pregnancy test because she was just sure she was knocked up....... From being fingered.
wee_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girl I dated from high school was scared she would get pregnant from anal sex. She literally thought the sperm would leak out of her butt, swim up into her vag, and impregnate her.
Not a doctor, but a coworker asked about a surgery we had just finished at the animal hospital I work at. The dog had a pyometra (pus filed uterus) we removed. When I told her this, she looked at me in horror and asked how the dog was going to be able to pee without a uterus.
I (a vet tech) used to work at a shelter that does low cost spay/neuter surgeries for the public and was doing the morning intake when a client asked if her dog's testicles would grow back after we removed them.
I don't know what's worse, questions like those, or all the people who agonize over spaying/neutering their pets because "won't they miss having a uterus/testicles/having babies/etc.?" Trust me people, having sex/litters is not essential to your pet's health or happiness.
My mom's dog almost died of that. You'd think she would have noticed her dog had been in heat for over a month and she was leaving black blood all over the floor, furniture and their bed. Nope, I had to tell her to take the vet and call her a fucking moron!
My rat also almost died of this. It's the opposite in rats though; rats don't menstruate so if you have a lady rat with bleeding or discharge from her lady rat bits, it's time for a vet.
Maybe she got temporarily confused with "urethra?" I'm a nurse who floats to OBGYN sometimes, and I've lost track of how many times I've accidentally said "urethral sound" instead of "uterine sound." Throw in the fact that there are other body parts in the lower abdomen called "ureters" and it's easy to see why some may get the names mixed up.
Wtf is that idiot doing working in an animal hospital? And seriously procedures on animals' genitals and reproductive organs are the most common/standard thing IN veterinary medicine.
4am Redditing is great Redditing, but I try not to post that late for similar reasons.
cmcewen ยท 1568 points ยท Posted at 00:29:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor here.
I think the most frustrating I've seen since I was a resident was a very pretty (like stunningly pretty) 17 year old with what appeared to be normal, loving, affluent parents. She had a tumor in her pelvis (rhabdomyosarcoma) that we could resect to potentially cure her. The parents declined, also declined chemo and said they want to try holistic medicine because that made more sense to them.
I last saw her 3 years ago, she was getting huge lymph nodes removed from her groin because they were unsightly. Obviously metastatic disease. Parents did not want primary tumor removed and again declined chemo.
I see 100 patients/week probably, lots of devastatingly sad cases. But I still think about that girl, listening to her parents, costing her life. I bet she's dead now.
I can assure people, doctors are not trying to swindle you, give you unnecessary care, or have some ulterior motive in this sort of setting. 99.99% of doctors are treating patients the same way they'd treat family, so try not to be dense, we want to help.
[deleted] ยท 193 points ยท Posted at 01:12:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 02:58:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The girl was 17. I imagine by the time it became life threatening and eligible for a court order, she was 18.
Kaylya ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 03:15:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are cases where that's done; however, I don't think you'd be likely to get one for a 17 year old who is also on board the woo train. I'm sure it varies by jurisdiction but it's not like a switch magically flips the day someone turns 18 to go from 0 input to 100% control on medical matters, a teenager's wishes are going to be taken into account much more than a 6 year old.
It gets really tricky in a lot of these cases, where it's not that the parents don't love or otherwise care for the child, it's that they and often the child have become completely convinced that wheatgrass enemas or whatever other BS are going to cure their child. And chemo has all kinds of nasty side effects in the short term, it can't be fun seeing your kid go through it (there's cases along these lines where chemo was started, perhaps long enough to initially knock back the tumor, but stopped early so risk of it coming back is high)
losian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Frankly willful ignorance in the face of knowledge to the point of letting a family member die absolutely means you don't love them; your preconceived notions are more important than their health. Your arrogance and pride more valuable than another's life. There's no love there except for oneself, shameful and selfish.
Maybe if the girl was all "I want the surgery" but her parents refused you could. But what are you going to do, tie up and perform surgery on a 17 year old who doesn't want it?
cmcewen ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:44:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To override the patient and the patients parents? Can't make people receive treatment
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 02:13:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical neglect is a reason for cps removal so it's not outside the realm of possibility, but you're right, it's ethically sticky.
kama_s ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 02:55:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the saddest thing I've read on this thread. I, too, have come across many such patients. Except I'm in big bad pharma/biotech and we are apparently intentionally holding the cure to cancer in order to make $$$. As a clinical pharmacologist, listening to these patients makes me livid and breaks my heart simultaneously.
People don't want to thank that bad things happen to goo people for no damn good reason. It is more comforting to believe that it is greed that kills little girls and school teachers with cancer than just shitty luck.
You have to ask yourself if your industry's documented, verified practices are doing anything to legitimize these conspiracy theories. I'd say they are - to a staggering and unconscionable extent, actually.
Dekronos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:35:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See epipen and aids medicine cocktail price hikes
kama_s ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:02:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just as an FYI: these are small companies that take on legacy products for the sole purpose of profit. I am talking about biotechs that invest billions of dollars into core research. The ones doing cutting edge work to discover new genes, new targets etc. Huge difference. As someone with ridiculously strong ethics and a very clinical background, there is a reason why I will work at a biotech and not a generic manufacturing company - even if offered higher pay/title - and there are many many like me who I work with who are extremely passionate about what they do and really into the science and want to see the best outcomes for patients.
Not a doctor, but worked in oncology research for a couple of years. Woman had an abnormal mammo finding and was told they were pretty certain it was cancer, but caught way soon enough to have a decent chance of being cured. She opted to "wait and see" what happened. The problem is she waited almost 5 years until the tumor grew to the point it was causing her "discomfort" and her breast was double the size of the other breast. She would only consent to surgical removal, which our doctors strongly disagreed with but she got someone to perform the surgery. Denied chemo in favor of homeopathic treatment in Jamaica, and fell off the radar. Returned about 6 month later with a fungating wound that she wanted "cleaned up." She was told by the "healer" she was seeing that this was perfectly normal as it was just the cancer being pulled out by her "treatments" - needless to say she died a pretty awful death. She continued to fly monthly to see said healer until her bone mets made it too painful to fly.
Had she been treated when the cancer was first discovered on the mammogram her 5 year survival likely would have been almost 100%. She never even had a biopsy. Clearly the fact that she went 5 years with zero treatment - she didn't start alternative medicine - indicates she likely would have had a very favorable response with minimal actual medically sound treatment.
Can't currently find it, but there was a Reddit post linking a video of a 20ish woman who decided to treat her breast cancer like that. By the end it's obvious she's in tremendous pain and dying - she shows her affects breast and is like "why did I risk it" - very educational but sad.
Yes, sadly this isn't an isolated case. I've seen it happen several times and the sad thing is these are usually highly educated people. I sat in while one of my doctors counseled a fellow physician on the importance of timely treatment for his prostate cancer while a board certified physician tried to argue against treatment because of the potential erectile dysfunction and urinary incontinence effects of treatment.
One of the most recent patients I had was a 30 y/o female who got breast cancer while pregnant. She had a fairly advanced and moderately aggressive cancer but had an excellent response to treatment. As soon as she was told she was in remission she became non compliant with maintenance therapy. She had osteopenia, bordering on osteoporosis, and refused any sort of intervention stating she'd rather "just try some algae." She was given data on improved survival with 5 years of hormonal treatment. She stayed on for about 8 months and showed up to inform (not ask) the physician that she'd stopped taking Tamoxifen and was actively trying to conceive.
So many face palm moments. It's hard when you know the data and you know that things aren't going to end well but patients have the right to choose.
Darwin award, but she already reproduced once :( If it were as easy as picking up some algae then why bother seeing a doctor? What an idiot. Sorry you had to deal with that - suicide by arrogance.
Pretty much. For every patient like those few that don't take treatment seriously, there are a dozen others who are super compliant and take their treatment seriously because they want to be there for family and friends for many years to come. That helps a bit but it's still difficult to watch someone shun a treatment that could have a major benefit for them.
The one with the kid who was trying to get pregnant again at the cost of discontinuing maintenance therapy was probably the most difficult for me. I have a few friends who lost their parents when they were young. It's so heartbreaking because it's the child who suffers most. She may be fine and live a long, full healthy life but odds aren't in favor of that outcome especially without to potential benefit of Tamoxifen and the fact that she developed breast cancer during her first pregnancy. I wanted to scream at her to think about her kid and not herself for 5 minutes. Her kid isn't even 2 years old yet. I can't fathom a parent NOT doing everything they can to live for their child.
To be fair Steve Jobs had pancreatic cancer. Even with top of the line cutting edge treatment the survival rate to put it mildly is incredibly bleak. The general survival across all cytologies and stages is poor. 80% of patients will be dead within a year. If the cancer is caught early enough and can be treated surgically odds are slightly better but it's still one of the most lethal cancers out there.
Friend of mine went for a regular checkup with her doctor, she mentioned that she had recently had some slight abdominal discomfort, doctor feels her abdomen and sends her to the hospital for further testing. That was on Friday, by Monday they confirmed that it was pancreatic cancer, gave her a prognosis of 3 months. She passed that Wednesday. Very sad.
At least you can't smell through the Internet. Nothing quite like it.
Stark1y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my grandmother had one- chest wall tumour that went feral through the biopsy site and began fungating; ultimately it killed her, but jesus. i can still smell her hospital room even now, three years later.
Stark1y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:42 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite the smell of death, but getting there. There's an fungal element to it, there's something almost farty about it. It's one of those smells that triggers something instinctive in you like, "This is bad, get away, NOW".
My mother's a nurse and she handled it a lot better than me, as did my aunt who had been caring for my nana so that about the instinct thing might be more of, "Maybe someone should have forewarned Stark1y about this".
Khayeth ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 03:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grrrrr. My ex (with whom i'm still good friends) had rhabdomyosarcoma at age 32. I'm surprised she lasted 3 years with no treatment. He got aggressive chemo and radiation for a year before he was declared in remission, and it was a close thing for quite a while.
Though, his would have been fatal much sooner since the primary tumor was in his sinus cavity, behind his right eye. In the course of a month he went from "i think i have a sinus infection" to "my eye is facing 45 degrees away from the plane of my face because of a grapefruit sized mass in my head".
And in case people don't say this enough to you, thank you so much for all you do. That was easily the worst year of both of our lives so far.
MrjB0ty ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:18:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me so angry and sad.
eazolan ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It shouldn't. This is how evolution works. It's not pretty, and those who do or think the wrong things die before they reproduce.
Ashiiiee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it should make us feel sad. Senseless waste of a life is always sad. Yes, that's how it works. Death is the result of all life, that's how life works, doesn't make a person any less sad when a loved one passes.
eazolan ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not your loved one. She's is one of the many, many lives that end every single day.
Children like that should just be removed from their parents unless they get the treatment. I'm sorry, your children shouldn't suffer because you're a fucking idiot.
Aayin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:25:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't apologize, you're absolutely right.
Dekronos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't there a case of a family with several kids, had some (as in multiple) die to preventable diseases because they were firm believers in faith healing?
Probably. I do remember recently hearing about some crazy family trying to cure their son's illness with maple syrup or some bullshit and he died.
tsume24 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:51:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's so sad :/
carBoard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:16:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rhabdomyosarcoma
but that's so easily treatable with resection! damn people..
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:56:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely dead at that stage of metastasis.
Homeopathy is like a religion...even if she could make her own decision she probably wouldn't.
Ultimately it's better that these people and their archaic beliefs die off.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:01:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just a note, but homeopathy is a particular type of medical woo that involves diluting substances until there's nothing left and calling it a cure. The post above only said "holistic medicine" which could be any kind of medical nonsense.
I always say if you disagree with your doctor, get a second and third opinion if the second opinion also disagrees with your doctor.
It helps that I have a college degree, because I know that I know more than most about my field of study, and doctors spent twice as long, sometimes more learning that.
Since she was 17, could you have told her that it would be in her best interest/health to come back and have it properly taken care of when she turned 18? Or is that frowned apon to do in front of the parent/guardian.
cmcewen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She didn't want treatment either. People keep missing that point
Related to that, a friend of mine doesn't use antibiotics, because she tried them once and they didn't help. Why is it so hard for people to understand probabilities?
EyeGifUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there were child protective laws that would prevent dumbass parents from making these types of decisions. Children shouldn't have to suffer because of ignorant parents.
I'm going to disagree on the "we won't suggest unnecessary procedures" part of that. Suffered two severely herniated discs in my cervical spine. Orthopedist that I went to stated surgery was the only option....at 28. I asked about PT, his response was that it would be a waste of time but he would write me a script if I insisted. I insisted and 3-4 months of PT later I was right as rain. Surgeons will suggest surgery because surgeons like to cut...especially if you have good insurance. On the other hand, the internet is no substitute for a good second opinion.
I have a couple of friends who had family members treated by Dr. Fata. Just to be contrary.
grayle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I tell my non-doctor relatives, that we can't keep assuming doctors are prescribing nonsense to us to make money like some unscrupulous businessman. They sometimes "don't tell the doctors everything" thinking they're smarter. Going to the hospital, telling the doctor specific symptoms and asking for certain medications. Ridiculous.
I'm a medical assistant. I had a patient come in for high blood pressure (she walks to Walgreens every day to check it) we're going over her history and she tell me she used to have breast cancer but she took some herbs prescribed by a holistic doctor and she was now cured. She also needed a yearly mammogram so my doctor wrote her an order, the next day we get a phone call that she had a black mass protruding out of her breast. She normally called me daily to tell me of her high blood pressure, within days she stopped calling. I'm pretty sure she died.
stygger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Sweden they would have been found unfit as guardians of the child, and replaced with a less crazy relative or the state. Heregovernment protects children from crazy/addicted parents, not the other way around!
kiki1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should be illegal! Did this happen in the US?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can assure people, doctors are not trying to swindle you, give you unnecessary care, or have some ulterior motive in this sort of setting
Stunningly pretty means what to you? She's being wasted for some loser? If she was ugly would you have posted?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who is a judge in my country and he told me that if you are a minor the state can force life saving treatments on you. He has had a few cases about blood transfussions with Jehova's Witnesses and he says that there is no problem as long as the patient is a minor.
This is awful. My stepson had rhabdo at 4. It's a scary disease, but he had good treatment, and he's 34 now. We have lunch all the time, and I'm really glad.
โOver 75% of the oncologists polled said that if they had cancer they would never use the same chemotherapy
they prescribe for their patients on themselves because of the ineffectiveness of chemotherapy
and its unacceptable degree of toxicity.โ
- Los Angeles Times
cmcewen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors always choose to die with less interventions than patients. But in this scenario, every doctor would choose surgery. This was curable
There is also a difference in choosing to die because you have a deep understanding of the odds with treatment, and believing incorrectly that something that has a 0% chance of being effective is better than surgery and chemo.
When I was a kid my doctor wanted me on whatever medicine at the time was for hyper activity or ADHD. I don't know what the medicine was, and I don't care. My parents wisely didn't put me on it.
[deleted] ยท 592 points ยท Posted at 00:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really late to this one but maybe someone will get a kick out of it.
A few years ago, the subject of human anatomy came up between a friend and I. He went on this whole tangent about how all men have uteruses because his college professor said so. I don't know if his professor was trying to explain transmen and some wires got crossed or what. But I had to explain to this fully grown man that he did not, nor did any natural born male, have a uterus. I sent him diagrams and told him to google for himself if he didn't believe me. He said those were fake, "Professor so and so said!" I asked him where he thought his uterus was and he said "the same place yours is". When I countered with "oh you have a vagina?" He got quite angry and said men don't have vaginas. I explained that not having a vagina means not having a uterus. He laughed at me and said "okay, just go ahead and believe that." Why yes I will go ahead and believe anatomical facts ๐.
We weren't really friends anymore after that, especially since I asked about 20 times wether or not he was joking.
He laughed at me and said "okay, just go ahead and believe that." Why yes I will go ahead and believe anatomical facts ๐.
Ah the joys of a jackass realizing they're wrong but refusing to admit it.
-UndeadKitten, who honestly believed that men's testicles don't grow until they hit puberty until she was 12 and had to care for a baby boy whose balls were exactly where they should've been.
Honestly, because of the phrase "balls dropping" during puberty, I thought the testes were internal until then. Where else would they be dropping from?!
I thought they were external, just up so they were touching the body (the pelvis/crotch area), and then one day they'd just fall down like 5 inches and at the same time the guy's voice was now an octave deeper. Apparently that's not quite how it works.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:01:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But yeah, as a kid I thought it was a puberty thing.
[deleted] ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 04:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Beviah ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm hoping that's what he meant, I don't want to believe someone could be that ignorant
Strix780 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend's professor was probably talking about the prostatic utricle, a little indentation which was formerly believed to be the male homologue of the uterus. That idea has been discredited, although it lives on in places like Wikipedia.
He might've gotten it confused with urethra. I thought us guys had uteruses too for a while because I got the two mixed up.
ruinevil ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:25:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Embryologically, males fetuses do have Mullerian ducts at one point of their development. The Mullerian duct in women becomes the Fallopian tubes, uterus, cervix, and the part of the vaginal directly adjacent to the cervix.
In males, the testes start to produce anti-mullerian hormone around 8 weeks, which tells the Mullerian duct cells to die. Testosterone, which is also produced in the testes, promotes the growth of the Wolffian ducts, which eventually becomes epididymis, vas deferens, and seminal vesicles.
The granulosa cells in your ovaries also produce anti-mullerian hormone. When you run out of viable eggs, your anti-mullerian hormone levels will drop.
euphorie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:14 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy that kept insisting his driving instructor said he had to brake hard if he didn't have ABS, and he had to brake intermittent if he had.
I told him he got it the wrong way around, and the instructor was either flat out wrong, or he misunderstood. He said he trusted his very studied and smart instructor more than me. I explained to him what the ABS does, that it locks the wheels intermittently, and you can even feel it. He had felt it too. But nope, the dumb guy trusted his very studied and smart instructor over me. Obviously I wouldn't be caught dead in his car, moron doesn't know how to brake.
(The very same night, he manages to skid in a wet turnabout and end up facing the wrong way - although I don't think this was due to his braking, just accelerating at the wrong time and not understanding grip - 5 cars and myself in a bike did the turnabout just fine)
A month later, he was driving his brother's FIAT Punto with no ABS and 5 people in it, at how fast it'd go in the highway in the summer. "Oh shit, the tool is right ahead". Heavy single brake, that causes the car to skid for like 100 meters straight. The wheels got squared off, and one of the threads jumped off the wheel. For the rest of the trip everyone felt the huge bump when the wheels completed a rotation.
Fucking idiot still trusts his very studied and smart instructor, it's normal to ruin the 4 tires when emergency braking...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe someone was trying to explain the embryological development to him, and thoroughly confused him? Since fetuses default to female phenotype until they get hit with androgens?
Siz27 ยท 591 points ยท Posted at 01:03:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Step mom is an ER nurse, she used to tell stories about her fun patients she had. My favorite was always this:
Severely drunk guy came in with signs of alcohol poisoning. They put a urethral catheter in him so he didn't piss himself. He didn't quite understand what it was and why he had it in his dick and kept on messing with it.
At one point he tried pulling it out and my step mom (she's not the very best at subtlety mind you) leans over and said in his ear: "If you pull that out now, your dick will never work again". Well wouldn't you know it? He stopped trying to pull it out after that.
dred1367 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:37:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do patient transfers from outlying standalone ERs to inpatient facilities. A guy had a balloon catheter and he cut the tube... it receded inside him and a urinologist had to admit him to remove it.
akambe ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:48:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My doc told me that to remove the catheter after the three days, to attach the syringe to the inflation tube and use it to suck out the fluid from the balloon. He also said that, if I lost the syringe or it didn't work for some reason, I could just cut off the end of the inflation tube, and the balloon would naturally drain and out it'd come. I could see how a patient could confuse some of that info in his brain and think that snipping the tube off close to the head of the penis would work.
dred1367 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Different kind of catheter. This one was not dissolvable. Also, I didn't talk with patients, I would sit in on doctor to doctor conferences and got to hear all the details.
I was admired to the ER for passing out and low oxygen/low blood pressure. My nurse did not fuck around. She asked me one question, realized I was barely lucid and just stuck a needle in my arm to get blood to make sure I wasn't pregnant. No sitting there and yelling at me until I understood what was going on and what she was asking.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is an ER nurse. It carries on into their personal lives as well. Love you mom! :)
akambe ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG, I just had prostate surgery so had a Foley catheter in for three days. YES it's the most uncomfortable thing ever. It feels SO good when it's finally out. BUT pulling on it while it's in...just makes no sense.
I don't want my baby to get a vaccine because Jenny McCarthy's book says her son got Autism from the Thimerosal in his MMR vaccine.
Jenny McCarthy is a one time playboy model who wants to sell you her books.
MMR is a live vaccine and does not contain Thimerosal.
Thimerosal contains Ethylmercury which clears from your body in a ~10 days unlike methylmercury which stays for months and actually causes damage.
Measles killed 135,000 people in the world THIS LAST YEAR
Autism has a strong genetic component. If one identical twin has it, there is a 75% chance the other will as well. with 75% of identical twins both having autism.
Andrew Wakefield faked the research linking autism to MMR vaccine, lost his license to practice medicine, and made millions helping lawyers sue and selling books. He lives in a mansion in England.
I went to school for 11 years, spent 10,000 hours studying and just want to make sure your child stays healthy. Quit thinking your 5 minutes of internet research means anything, get over yourself, and vaccinate your damn baby.
TheBoni ยท 2165 points ยท Posted at 02:11:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son suffered intussusception and very nearly died from blood loss, and it was possibly a side effect of the rotavirus vaccine he'd had a few days before. I'm not exaggerating when I say he very nearly died. He was touch and go for a few hours. It was the single worst day of my entire life and there's not even a close second, including the death of my father.
Vaccinate your damn baby. It's a miniscule risk, but our number nearly came up. I still agree. Vaccinate your damn baby.
EDIT: I'm happy to report that a year later, my son is just fine except for his need to climb on things and subsequently fall off of them. He actually had another intussusception in August and needed a bowel resection this time around, but he was bouncing off the walls again within days.
[deleted] ยท 332 points ยท Posted at 02:38:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter nearly died from rotavirus before the vaccine was available. Similarly to you, it was one of the worst most frightening events in my life. I was so relieved for others when I learnt of the vaccine. Thankfully your son is ok now, but sorry you all had to experience that.
Nezzi ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 04:17:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People vaccinating their kids and getting vaccinated for things your kids can catch from you is my soapbox, as I have worked with many sick children. I want to hug you right now.
Fun fact: Jenny later discovered her child doesn't have autism at all, but a rare neurological disorder instead. I am an autism mommy and I think what her words did to the public views on vaccine/ autism is almost criminal.
Didn't she claim that she "cured her son's autism" through some weird diet?
icer816 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FUCK JENNY!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At first she believed that his kid was an Indigo child, I wouldn't believe her about the rare neurological disorder of his child either. Unless it's diagnosed by actual doctors.
ala1985 ยท 176 points ยท Posted at 03:43:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first rotavirus vaccine was withdrawn by the manufacturer because it did cause intussusception. The two vaccines currently approved do not cause intussusception. This is proof that if a problem is discovered with a vaccine.. it isn't covered up! Instead the scientists and doctors who want to SAVE LIVES go back to the drawing board and reformulate the vaccine to make it safe. Same thing with pertussis vaccine, however it wasn't pulled from the market. They just came up with an acellular version that has a far better safety profile.
Oh yes. The old DTwP vaccine was nasty. Tomorrow marks exactly 42 years since I got that one, and there's a spot on my arm right there that's still sore/tender to the touch. This is not a joke, 42 damn years later and it still hurts.
On the other hand, as a pharmacist I am all for people getting vaccinated. Had some one come to one of the stores where I work and tried to get me to notarized a document stating that she wanted a religious exemption to getting her children vaccinated. Problem: I'm the same religion as her, and I know damn well that her arguments were bogus, as we don't have any such objection, and in fact exactly the opposite, we actively encourage it. I refused to notarize the document. A few weeks later her husband shows up at the other store where I also work with the same damn document... told him the same thing I told his wife, that he'd have to find a different notary because I wasn't touching that one. What kind of chutzpah does it take to try and get an actual health professional to certify something like that?
I'm surprised there are Jews that buy into that hysteria
For the most part, there aren't. The very reason they needed this document was because the Yeshiva (Jewish religious school) wouldn't admit their child without a vaccination record. There's always a few nuts, though. (Like my cousin, an Orthodox Jew like myself, but who picked up some seriously weird ideas while in chiropractic school.)
Wait... they wanted to claim that their religion exempts them from vaccines to a school based on those very same religious beliefs yet also requiring vaccines?
That might be the rotavirus. Better get vaccinated.
Tzipity ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:23:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially funny because most yeshivas (which are orthodox like 99% of the time when that's what they call their school versus say the "Jewish Day schools" that are popular amongst a wider variety of Jews and not as strict) really require you to be Jewish to attend. I know of a couple who sent their daughters to one for awhile and were one of few nonorthodox families (mother later became a rabbi in fact) at that school and it was really hard for them and eventually they placed their kids into public schools because they would come home and tell their mother she wasn't dressed modesty enough or why isn't dad going to daily minyin (prayer service) with the other dads, etc.
Boggles the mind.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:17:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use chuztpah and I'm not Jewish? Is that allowed?
Sure it's allowed. The word made its way into English decades ago.
I remember Theodore Bikel defining the word on a record from about 1960 or so. He was about to play and sing a Spanish Gypsy song ("Gypsy" wasn't a slur that long ago) and introduced it as follows:
If you're familiar with this milieu, you cannot play this stuff unless you're a Spaniard, and you can't sing it unless you're a Gypsy. . . I, however, am possessed of that famous Spanish Gypsy ingredient called chutzpah... [Most of the audience laughs.] You don't understand what it means? . . . No, it's not "gall". It's not "cheek" either. It's, uh, it's worse. The only way you can illustrate it, and you have to illustrate it, is if you kill your father and mother, and then you throw yourself on the mercy of the court on the grounds that you're an orphan.
(This was 35 years before the Menendez brothers did exactly that, of course.)
Tzipity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not (another Jew on Reddit here). Some of the flipping craziest dietary and health nonsense I've ever heard has come from other Jews. Seems to be a big trend, at least in my community, towards alternative medicine and dear gosh the things people say.
And it was a Jew on the internet who tried to tell me to go off the "crap" that is basically a form of life support that is literally keeping me alive and to try some bullshit diet he claims cured his mom's cancer. Irony is the guy himself has a lot of health issues so clearly his mom's miraculous cure isn't working for him.
As a notary, isn't your job (over simplified) just to check that the identity of the people signing documents are who they claim they are? It doesn't matter if you signed it, you are neither a medical professional, nor a religious leader, so just your notarization couldn't possibly mean anything.
TheBoni ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:00:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CDC still lists it as a risk and that's what the ER doc and the pediatrician both suspected but couldn't confirm. I'm not an expert, I just know what I was told. I still think it's a worthwhile risk.
You are correct that it is still a risk. The risk has been reduced with newer versions of the vaccine. All medical interventions have risks, from acetaminophen to brain surgery, so read up, ask a professional, and then get your kids vaccinated!
I think the problem is that people are unable to gauge and asses risk.
On a purely selfish level, the risk of your kid having a serious reaction to a vaccine, especially if you have a family history of such reactions versus your kid getting the underlying disease in an otherwise vaccinated world are not all that far off. It's a hard decision.
My family has a genetic predisposition to severe reactions to neomycin, which is used in a lot of vaccines, and even when not used in a particular vaccine, has been found as containment in many others.
So when it's time to vaccinate my kids, it's a real question. Pick your poison, literally.
What was frustrating is that I had to really force the doctors to lookup and disclose the various risks, write them down, and then investigate those risk levels to come up with the answer. The doctors didn't want to engage past "of course you should get them the shots".
Maybe it's different country to country, but if you have a family history of bad reactions doctors here will recommend postponing childhood vaccinations.
I talked to a family that said their child was diagnosed after a really bad reaction (they didn't think there was a link), and I said "well unless you have a family history of bad reactions you were going on the best information"
Every single person in their family had nearly died getting vaccinated and they never mentioned anything to the doctors.
The epidemiology of intussusception is weird - it's listed as a risk in the new vaccines, but it's a vanishingly small one, and there's actually some question as to whether or not there was actually a problem in the original vaccine, or if it was the result of being more vigilant for GI complications in infants.
Regardless, it's utterly terrifying, and I'm glad your child is okay.
My baby cousin died (about 6-months) died a few hours after getting the MMR vaccine, and it's believed she had an adverse reaction to the vaccine.
I too still believe in vaccinating your children. It may sound callous, but vaccines have had a tremendous (and positive) impact on our world. They are a game changer that protects our community.
TheBoni ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:56:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to hold on to convictions when you're watching your son getting intubated, you question everything.
I'm so sorry for your little cousin and her poor parents. I came close, and yet I can't even imagine what they must have gone through and must still go through.
MMR can be given from the age of 6 months if they may have been exposed to the measles virus, or during a measles outbreak
Xinectyl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or someone messed up and gave it to her [early] instead of what she was supposed to get, and that may be why she had a reaction. It probably was a different one like you said, but you never know, people make mistakes.
Very sad though. It's always heartbreaking when children die. ):
SweMoose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:17:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is given from the age of 6 months but only in special cases. If given before the age of 1 year you can't be certain of a full protection. Because of this any MMR given before the age of 1 are considered an extra shot and does not officially count towards your lifelong immunisation.
Xinectyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:34 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not know that, very interesting. I do not have any offspring as of yet, so I'm not well versed in their immunizations. All I really know is that I had chicken pox in uteri, and while I tested positive for the antibodies, they gave me the vaccination anyway as a baby. And got the whole set AGAIN a little later. My now (adult medicine) doctors think that may cause problems down the road, but since it doesn't normally happen to people, they aren't sure. So I have had experience with medical 'oopsies', and just know that people can make mistakes, and it isn't always clear what the outcome would be. Although I've had medical 'oopsies' that ended up fixing big health problems, so you never really know.
Thanks for this story. I'm a new dad and am terrified of things like this, but it's nice to hear someone that had something bad happen reiterate that it's the right decision. I've never questioned it, but I've questioned things about myself that I've never considered before since my son was born.
TheBoni ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:49:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the club. DadProTip: Anxiety and second guessing every parenting decision you make are both parts of the job. Some might even say they're essential parts of doing it right.
My son is almost ten months old, and we've given him every vaccine available up until this point.
Zero adverse effects.
You know how they talk about life expectancy was really short even just a few hundred years ago? It's in the mid-70s now but it used to be 45-50. That number is reached by averaging out the age at which people die, so it doesn't mean that people croak spontaneously when they hit 50, it means that infant and child mortality was out of control to such an extent that it brought average life expectancy down. At some points in history, you didn't even have a 50% chance of living past your first birthday.
These days we've nearly eradicated that, and a major part of that is vaccines. Kids used to die left and right from whooping cough and measles, but they don't any more.
Death resulting from vaccination is nearly unheard of. Complications are rare, and in any case, the complications are all less severe than the death of your child.
So, you know, vaccinate them.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. SO MUCH THIS. Yes, there's a MINUSCULE chance your kid will have complications and possibly die due to a vaccination, but the chances they'll catch something horrible and/or die from something if they're not vaccinated are exponentially higher.
And the probability would increase significantly if there weren't strict vaccination policies in place because the overall number of vaccinated people would be much less. It's infuriating.
phearlez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully I don't much encounter chumps like this, but on the few occasions I have my question to them was "do you wear your seatbelt? Do you put your child in a car seat?" Because you can find those one in a billion cases where someone survived because they weren't wearing their seatbelt but only a moron thinks that's a reason to not wear one.
Though I have worried, when I have used this appeal to statistics, whether I'm going to give them an idea for another stupid way to live rather than convince them to get the fucking shot.
In the prevaccine era an estimated 3 million rotavirus infections occurred every year in the United States and 95% of children experienced at least one rotavirus infection by age 5 years. Rotavirus infection was responsible for more than 400,000 physician visits, more than 200,000 emergency department (ED) visits, 55,000 to 70,000 hospitalizations, and 20 to 60 deaths each year in children younger than 5 years.
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Rotavirus activity in the United States decreased significantly after introduction of rotavirus vaccine in 2006. The 2010-2011 rotavirus season was 8 weeks shorter in duration than the prevaccine baseline. The threshold for the start of the rotavirus season was never achieved nationally during the 2011-2012 season. During these seasons, nationally, the number of positive rotavirus tests declined 74-90% compared with the prevaccine baseline and the total number of tests performed annually declined 28%-36%. The annual proportion positive at the 25 consistently reporting laboratories remained below 10% in both seasons compared with a prevaccine baseline median of 26%. A pattern of biennial increases in rotavirus activity emerged during the 5 postvaccine seasons from 2007-2012, but activity remained substantially below prevaccine levels.
Yes, there's a MINUSCULE chance your kid will have complications and possibly die due to a vaccination, but the chances they'll catch something horrible and/or die from something if they're not vaccinated are exponentially higher.
That you have an exponentially higher chance of dying/suffering serious illness from disease than dying/suffering serious injury from a vaccine.
Your link or quote does nothing to address that. The base line seems to be 20-60 deaths in kids 5 and under for rotavirus. For the claim to be true, there essentially could be no serious injury related to this vaccine. Is that the case?
You're equating complications with death. The key here is the 55,000 hospitalizations each year, or the 200,000 ED visits each year - and yeah, I'd say that a few hospitalizations each year are exponentially less than 55,000 (or 200,000).
And this is just rotavirus. There are many more diseases, some of which can have much more serious consequences than rotavirus.
Right, but you don't have to take every vaccine and treat them equally.
Do you support the claim:
Yes, there's a MINUSCULE chance your kid will have complications and possibly die due to a vaccination, but the chances they'll catch something horrible and/or die from something if they're not vaccinated are exponentially higher.
I think to address this we would need the number of "serious" cases of rota-virus, which includes hospitalizations and deaths, and compare that to the number of similarly serious reactions to vaccine, correct?
There is also a small risk of intussusception from rotavirus vaccination, usually within a week after the 1stย or 2ndย vaccine dose. This additional risk is estimated to range from about 1 in 20,000 to 1 in 100,000 US infants who get rotavirus vaccine. Your doctor can give you more information
So worst case, 1 in 20,000 vaccines result in serious complications (other than allergic reactions). Intussusception is also the only serious side effect I could find, and it's less serious than rotavirus gastroenteritis.
Also, this means that in order to arrive at the same worst-case number of complications per year (55,000) you'd need to vaccinate 1.1 billion infants each year in the US alone. Good luck with that.
Well the point of the question is that I have any my kids have a predisposition to severe allergic reactions to an ingredient that is a common containment is most vaccines and is definitely present in anything that involves using chickens to produce.
Excluding allergic reactions is sort of hand waiving saying don't look at that over there.
If the number (5 per 100,000) result in serious non-allergic side-effects, that's not minuscule risk. It's a small risk for sure.
The problem is the quote will say "your doctor can give you more information", but that is almost always never the case.
Ignoring allergic reactions has nothing to do with hand waving and saying "don't look at that over there", and has everything to do with the fact that people can have allergic reactions to just about anything.
If you're predisposed to allergic reactions, and you're worried your kids might be, consult a medical professional. If they can't help you, consult a different medical professional. Someone will be able to tell you what you and your kids are allergic to and whether or not it'll be in the vaccine.
If your kids are allergic to the vaccines, then don't vaccinate, obviously. But keep in mind that the small possibility for side effects, including allergic reactions, is not a reason not to vaccinate if you have no prior indication that there might be an issue. If anything, it's another reason to vaccinate - you, being allergic to some vaccines, rely on others around you to be vaccinated for your protection.
Right, the point is, the numbers are not available. You, like all doctors, hand waived away what the risks, specifically, of an allergic reaction are. Cross contamination of vaccines is very common so that even doses that shouldn't have components in them do.
But excluding allergies, the question is a good one which is what are the relative risks for an individual.
Doctors and the public health community rarely want to discuss the relative individual risks.
I've been looking, and it is indeed very hard to find numbers on allergy rates for vaccines. The other risks, however, are pretty well documented and easily accessible, and the possibility of an allergic reaction really shouldn't be a concern without any indication that you specifically have to worry about it - as with all things, the absence of an allergic reaction in the past is no guarantee for the absence of an allergic reaction now, and yet we still happily eat peanuts.
That said, if you are truly predisposed to allergic reactions to components in vaccines, you tell your doctor that, and your doctor just kind of waves and tells you there's nothing to worry about, find a new doctor. This one is shit.
I had a neighbour whose child was severely handicapped, which resulted from brain damage after a very high fever when he was an infant, after getting a vaccine shot.
It's not the chemicals inside the vaccine that hurts, it's that sometimes, one in a couple billion times, the baby's body will react bad to the vaccine and the fever that generates damages their brains.
Yeah vaccinations require an immune response or they won't work. Occasionally people will have an anaphylactic reaction too, that's why you have to wait 10 minutes afterwards - or longer if you have a history.
In the 80s an estimated 2.5 million deaths per year in the US were attributed to the measles virus, in 2016 the disease was considered to be eradicated.
It didn't just pack up and leave. We vaccinated it out of existence.
Even if that was right, that was then and this now. What is the individual risk today, compared between a given vaccine and the underlying condition?
As a group, it's a slam dunk decision. One on one, it's a very different story.
I've never found a medical doctor who will work with you to get those numbers. 2016 looks like maybe about 62 cases of measles. Were there more adverse reactions than that per 100,000?
As a group, it's a slam dunk decision. One on one, it's a very different story.
You are part of the problem. Because one person says "I'm just one person, if I don't get my kid vaccinated, all the other vaccinated people will protect them through herd immunity". But then another person says that.... and another.... and another.... Then we lose herd immunity entirely and we get measles outbreaks at Disneyland.
2016 looks like maybe about 62 cases of measles.
Obviously there's very few cases of measles now! BECAUSE WE FUCKING VACCINATE. What even is your argument?
Right, I get it, as a herd, it's a clear decision. As an individual, it's not a very a good decision, especially if you have an allergy to the ingredients used to stabilize and prepare the vaccine's themselves.
There is barely enough data available to be able to make a rational decision, and for the most part, doctors are unwilling to help you make an informed decision that is not "we fucking vaccinate", just like you did.
My daughter had an intussusception as well... That shit is scary. It took us 3 days to get any doctors to take us seriously though :( While she didn't have any blood loss she almost lost a part of her bowel because she had it for so long. The theory was that her's happened spontaneously. May I ask what the time frame was between the two? We live in constant paranoia that her's will relapse (due to the length of time her's went untreated.)
I am happy to hear your son made it through both times!
TheBoni ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First was in January, second was in August. I'm glad to hear your daughter came through as well. I wish I had some advice or encouragement about a relapse. I'll just hope along with you. The good news is, those little critters are pretty tough.
Copy-pasting so you can have the info, too, even though the thread is several days old. Also, I REALLY hope this doesn't scare you, but it's important to know!
My brother had an intussuseption as an infant. One thing to look out for as your child grows is the possibility of the small intestine kinking up because of adhesions to the abdominal scar tissue, causing a blockage. If it happens there will be intense abdominal pain and no stool will pass. The doctors may very well have gone over this with you, but they didn't with my parents and my brother nearly died when he was 16 as a result. If we knew what was up immediately it wouldn't have been a close call like that. Hence why I pass the knowledge on, not to worry, just to inform.
Thanks for the info! The doctors actually did not go over that bit of information with us (or at least if they did I don't remember, I barely slept due to sick baby/surgery/extended hospital stay for 2 weeks, it was a rough time).
Wish I could give gold. As a childhood leukemia survivor, my immune system was too weak to have some vaccines. I'm so thankful that even after such a near brush with tragedy, you engage in and advocate for rational behavior. Your kids, and every kid who CAN'T get a vaccine, thank you.
It comes down to a pretty simple math problem. Between 1 in 20,000 and 1 in 100,000 infants will develop intussusception after getting the vaccine, meaning between 40 and 120 infants will develop the condition each year. On the other hand, 1 in 50 kids who contract rotavirus will end up needing hospitalization, for a grand total of 200,000 emergency room visits each year (before the vaccine was introduced). I'd much rather have a 1 in 20,000 chance of contracting a serious condition than a 1 in 100 chance.
I had intussusception when I was about 5 years old. Normal kid. Nothing weird caused it, it just happened. I thought it was because I ate too many pizza crusts.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you eating all the crusts others left behind? The "bones" of the pizza, as it were?
Did you have to have enemas and all? Surgery? I can't imagine that's a pleasant memory. It looks like it hurts a lot.
This is so fucking weird. I called them pizza bones, yes. Do I know you? This happened about 20 years ago, fyi. And I still call them pizza bones.
My parents were out of town the day it started. We had pizza the night before, I ate a bunch of pizza and the left over crusts. Couple hours later started feeling sick. Spent the night next to the toilet. It started out with the symptoms of a stomach bug. Vomiting and fever.
Parents came home sometime that next morning. Shortly after I started vomiting blood. Then there was blood in my stool. I don't remember much, but I do remember the gut pain. Second worst pain I can remember. This is when I went to the ER.
I don't remember much after being taken the to ER. My parents said the doctors in the ER had trouble figuring it out. Then a pediatric doctor was leaving his shift at the hospital to go to his second shift at the Children's Hospital. He said he knew what this was and to get me up there ASAP.
Supposedly they tried some enemas and other things and it didn't help. Finally went into surgery and the pulled apart the blockage and everything was A-OK. Didn't have to cut any parts out or reattach anything. They took my appendix out while they were in there.
I spent about a month in the hospital post-op. I remember a lot of that. My cousin brought his gameboy for me to keep myself occupied. I played with other kids in the game room. (this is my first memory of playing jenga.) I remember wheeling around my IV stand. I also remember being asked what flavor gas I wanted in the operating room before going under. I also remember counting backward and cold hand on my stomach and coming to with what looked like scotch tape on my stomach. I also remember them pulling the feeding tube out and getting the first taste of real food. It was french toast and eggs.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They took my boy's appendix too. Might as well, mine damn near killed me.
A month in the hospital...yeeshk. Gives me the heebies just thinking about it.
Let him run and play and climb and jump and fall and get hurt. It's just a natural part of growth. He'll learn his limits, and his youth gives him indane recovery skills and limitless energy. Watch him laugh, and let him be free, because childhood is the only time to truly be free. I rarely that chance because my parents didn't want me to get hurt, and it kind of sucks.
May god stand between your son and harm in all the empty places he walks.
TheBoni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He gets plenty of free reign, not to worry. I have tendencies toward helicopter parenting, but I'm also really lazy, so it evens out.
My sister had intussusception as a baby. She was in a coma for several hours while they waited for a pediatric GI specialist before having emergency surgery. She's almost 26 now. She's got intestinal malrotation, all her organs are on the wrong sides, and a gnarly scar pretty much from her sternum to her pelvis, but other than that she's perfectly fine now.
Just figured it might be nice to know that there can be light at the end of that shitty, scary tunnel (:
You are the real MVP. You understand that even though you were one of the unlucky few, vaccination does more good than harm. Glad to hear your son is healthy now!
My brother had an intussuseption as an infant. I'm so glad your kiddo is healthy and well, even though he had a second one!
One thing to look out for as he grows is the possibility of the small intestine kinking up because of adhesions to the abdominal scar tissue, causing a blockage. If it happens there will be intense abdominal pain and no stool will pass. The doctors may very well have gone over this with you, but they didn't with my parents and my brother nearly died when he was 16 as a result. If we knew what was up immediately it wouldn't have been a close call like that. Hence why I pass the knowledge on, not to worry, just to inform.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:47 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We watch his poops pretty closely. Now, I can look forward to having to have the "Son, your poops are more perilous than other people's..." chat.
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm happy to report that a year later, my son is just fine except for his need to climb on things and subsequently fall off of them. He actually had another intussusception in August and needed a bowel resection this time around, but he was bouncing off the walls again within days.
To be fair, his need to fall off things may not be related. You could just have bad coordination from the genetic side of it.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, he's just climbing well beyond his skill level to successfully descend.
Vaadwaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, normal?
TheBoni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rotavirus vaccine wasn't around when I had my kids. My God, I was in hospital with #1 at 3 months of age, she wasn't a good breather (SIDS nearly got the turd) and a little boy (maybe 6 months old) had Rotavirus in a containment room next door. That poor child smelled like he was decaying and decomposing - he nearly died. My daughter got it also, but nowhere near as severe.
I can't believe stupid people would risk their kid getting Rotavirus over fear of an immunisation.
I'm really glad you can still advocate the need for vaccination despite what happened to your little boy, which is an horrific extreme outlier.
Luvagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Secure things like forniture to the wall with nails or screws. I know it looks mental, but I used to climb on things too and my parents had to secure everything after a heavy shoe rack fell on me. Half of my body was covered in bruises.
imghurrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If he had a second one does that mean it's less likely it's from the vaccine? Any evidence linking the rotavirus vaccine with intussusception?
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. The CDC lists it as a side effect and both doctors agreed that was the likely cause the first time. I honestly don't know what if any effect it had on the second time. Intussusception can be caused by a few different things. We know the second one was virus related because they removed the troubling patch of growths which the intestine grabbed on to.
I have never had the flu before.... Until a few weeks ago.
I never thought it was a big deal to get the shot because I've never dealt with it, even with all the recommendations.
Que to me laying in this ER on Christmas with a 103* fever, and the rest of the symptoms. Doctor proceeds to spend 20 minutes lecturing me on how the shot could have prevented this.
I'm waiting on two ER bills, one for me and one for my girlfriend. We both caught it. Spent Christmas week in bed and miserable.
Gorfob ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 02:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Proper flu is incredibly taxing on your body. There is a reason certain strains kill millions of people.
Flinkle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:09:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and people love to call a bad cold "the flu." I've had friends ask me what the flu is like. My answer is always, "Unless you literally think you may be dying, you don't have the flu."
And then you have me, who had the flu back in high school (caused a three month? chest infection) and was when we discovered I had infection induced asthma. But had never had a cold until 2012 (I was... 23?) and was sent from a convention to hospital via an ambulance due to a fever of 39.6? asthma attack wouldn't quit and was tachy.
And was stuck in quarantine for 3 days. (did get moved to a lovely room on the second day though) And what was the verdict? Oh... you had a really bad cold. XD even the nurse thought it was funny. It doesn't help that I arrived in full costume and thats all I had to wear for those three days.
The only thing that came out of that was finally someone giving me an asthma plan and learning I dehydrate easily. (due to over medical reasons)
But I'm probably an outlier and should not be counted lol.
Or rather furry hobbit feet in my case, lol. I do feel sorry for the person who cleaned the quarantine area after, seeing the remains in the bed or the floor. (they mysteriously disappeared)
My bout happened in college. I woke up, got out of bed, and immediately crashed to the floor. Spent the next week living on a futon mattress next to the bathroom because standing and walking was beyond my ability. It's the only time I've ever had a doctor make a house call.
Proper flu. Was tested for it and confirmed. I've usually dealt with colds and been able to work through them. This one had me in bed for two days and I decided I had, had enough of this shit. Took me 3 hours to force myself out of bed and drive to the doctor. Putting on pants had never been so tiring. Lol
Flinkle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Putting on pants had never been so tiring.
Heh, so true. "Oh my god please don't make me get up and go to the bathroom AGAIN!"
Gorfob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse and I have used pretty much that exact phrase with a patient before.
They then demanded antibiotics and I'm like "kill me now"
Even weeks later, I still have limited capacity of what I can do. I have a job that is very physical/labor intensive. Diesel mechanic. I've only recently started making my complete work day without feeling completely burnt out mid day. I'm still going home and sleeping more than usual. It's getting better though.
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 02:49:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair the flu shot might not have helped you. The influenza virus likes to play around with its genetics constantly, the virus infects using 8 strands of RNA. The best hosts with little to no symptoms are birds, and when infected with multiple strains you get recombination, the RNAs get mixed up basically.
With that knowledge in tow, each year the flu strains are predicted. If they predict them wrong, most people won't be protected despite getting the shot and even if you predict them right you can't vaccinate for them all. If you're the unlucky person that gets a fancy different strain it also sucks to be you. That's why its most often recommended for those in hospitals or the ones most at risk of dying, the average person is kinda hit or miss with the flu shot either way.
To be fair the flu shot might not have helped you.
This is correct, I got a flu shot in November (a week before Thanksgiving) and still got the flu a couple days after Christmas. Just as you said, it seems a new strain evolved this year and beat the vaccine. My whole family got it this year. We probably all gave it to each other over Christmas dinner :-P
Off-topic soapbox moment: It is a source of deep disappointment and sadness to me that we see an organism demonstrating evolution to us every single year right before our eyes and still half the US population believes evolution is a hoax
Nitpick: a virus can't conclusively be referred to as an organism, or a living thing at all. They're more akin to naturally occurring nanites than anything.
The Flu is created by the government to limit the population and kill off the sick!!!
Note: It's a joke...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeahhhhh, I personally only met a creationist once, it was...interesting. Mind you, its not always evolution, its just the circulating strains change from year to year too evolution or not. We can't vaccinate against them all so scientists pick a few and pray they didn't fuck up their guess. "SWAG. (Scientific Wild Assed Guess)." as aduuuuumb posted.
Unfortunately plenty of doctors don't exactly need to take virology classes or just don't remember them and become flabbergasted when a patient who had the flu shot gets the flu. It ain't the same flu as what the shot protects you against, nothing more.
As an aside, I personally avoid the shot. I generally don't get the flu to begin with since I start quarantining myself away from people more should they show any sign of being sick and I rather not deal with the flu shot side effects Ill get whether or not I get the illness I'm supposed to be protected against. Me and vaccines don't get along too well now for whatever reason, age related vaccine side effect crappiness? Blah.
I get a flu shot every year. I ended up with the worst case of the flu that I've every experienced about two years ago. I ended up at the doctors twice and I told the doctor that I couldn't believe how sick I was,with having had a flu shot. He basically said the same, that there are different strains evolving all the time.
Aka, you could have protection for every possible ailment, but every once in a while, mother nature delivers a very special brand of "fuck you." This time, you're the lucky one...
I would love (yet hate) to hear a medical professional explain that to someone.
amp_it ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:19:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, a few years ago I got the flu about a week after getting the flu shot. My immune system was shitty to begin with after a round of steroids and I managed to catch a rarer influenza B that hadn't been in the shot that year. It was just shitty luck and I still think flu shots are a good idea. What was even shittier luck was that I actually managed to catch mono and Lyme disease at the same time too. I was taking a medical microbiology class and my professor didn't even believe my doctor's note at first hah That was a miserable month.
The shot is just someone's prediction that they were able to determine what's going to be around.
It's a risk, gamble, probability or SWAG. (Scientific Wild Assed Guess). We can't market it as an educated guess because nobody would believe it's worthwhile.
Similar to the meteorologists in South Florida.
"Welcome to sunny south Florida! If you look at the weather map here, we won't be getting hit by Hurricane Derpette." All while their studio is being blown to bits by hurricane force winds...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the flu once when I was 16 and I have not missed getting a flu shot a single year since then (13 years now). That is easily the worse I have every felt in my entire life. Even if the flu shot doesn't completely immunize me from the strain that is going around that year, it could still at least lessen the severity of the illness. The same year that I got the flu, my parents had both gotten their flu shots about a week and a half before I got sick. They both developed some low grade fevers and body aches a few days after I started showing symptoms, but they were clearly dealing with a much wimpier version of the illness, while it was totally kicking my unimmunized ass.
I have been hospitalized with pneumonia before. The flu is worse. For me, it's probably the fever that had me down the worst. With pneumonia, I felt "normal," but the fluid on my lungs just made it very uncomfortable. I was up and about (in the hospital, of course) just had a severely limited lung capacity.
dell_55 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:59:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a hospital and am required to get it. I would anyway, really. We had a flu outbreak in our office. 4 ended up with pneumonia and 3 with bronchitis on top of it. I wore an N95 mask and washed/sanitized my hands all day.
I still got the flu.whatever strand this is/was, it's crazy. There's also an outbreak of mumps in this state right now.
I honestly assumed I had had the flu before. I've been sick. I've had fever and nausea and other such symptoms...and then I got the flu and understood how people die from it and knew I had never actually had it before.
There are many diseases that have killed thousands/millions. After catching the flu, I can see how one's condition can rapidly deteriorate if not treated properly.
I'll take a look into it.
Edit: killed, not liked...
eazolan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had more than a 24 hour flu, never got a shot. When I was a kid my family never got the shots because it wasn't (and honestly, still isn't) a big deal but one of my mother's excuses, if asked, was that some family friends who got their flu shots every year each got a week long flu almost every year anyway whereas we never had more than just a day long virus.
Edit: 24 hour flu is just the best name I have for it since I have my clue what it actually was. Also, I know my mother's reasoning there was wrong but I was like 10-11 when she said that.
avrenak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:51:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"24 hour flu" is not influenza. You're talking about completely different viruses. And no, the flu shot does not give you the flu.
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:16:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know it doesn't that was just my mother's excuse and I was too young to know any better at the time. And I've always been told the 24 hour virus like that was the flu but have never actually found out for sure so that's just me running off the only name I have for it.
24 hour flu is not a thing(at least that I know of). I wish it were. There may have been something else that had you sick.
You'll know when the flu hits as the doctor will have you tested for it.
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I said in the edit, I don't know what it actually is but that's what my family always called it so it's the only name I have for it. You are right though, flu could be much better if it was only 24 hours instead of a week.
My Microbiology professor doesn't even get flu shots. She's super pro-vax (except she thinks MMR should be three separate doses) but she doesn't think the vaccine is worth her time. And she's had the flu before.
legone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:29:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For most people it's gonna be free. You can get it at CVS or Walgreens and it takes maybe half an hour. I got a 20% off coupon at CVS. If they predict the strain correctly it could save you the time and hassel of a meh flu illness, or save you from a life threatening bout. If you work hourly, you're gonna lose money. You might have to use sick days.
There's really no reason to not swing by on a Saturday morning when it's probably free or really cheap.
Flu, as in Influenza "A." At least that's how they referred to it once they swabbed and tested for it.
I know the A is probably the definition of a specific strand, but it's still flu.
raezefie ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 02:05:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a pharmacist, people not taking my advice gets to me just for this reason. I just wanna shake a person sometimes and say 'Look, I have a doctorate in this, okay? I think you should listen to me.' I feel your pain.
How do you feel about splitting the MMR? (Aka, three shots instead of the one combo) The pediatrician who did my cousins' vaccines did that for one of them because she was "frail" (his exact words "I think we should spread this out and split the MMR because she's a frail little girl.") but since I was 12 I never really got why that mattered.
And before you think I'm arguing with you, I'm not. I am very pro-vaccines, our family lost a baby to whooping cough when his 9 year old, unvaccinated aunt passed it along to him. You just sound like you know things and why my cousin ended up with 3 shots over a couple months instead of one like her brother has bugged me for 10+ years.
Live vaccines can actually make you quite sick since the virus has not been inactivated. Doc just wanted to let the kid deal with one weakened virus at a time and not all 3.
I think I'm secretly convinced medicine is magical. I mean I understand a lot of things about medical science, but deep, deep down I kinda think vaccines and antibiotics are magic so it doesn't occur to me to really think about it. When I do I realize I have big gaps in my understanding.
Thanks! I knew most of the 3 episodes but great detail and presentation.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please no, calling it alive or dead is a gross oversimplification.
Viruses arguably don't have the components to ever be considered alive. If you think they are alive, then let's talk about prions and everything is out the window. The question is whether their capsule is still intact so to speak. You could even think of viruses as syringes, they are little more than a capsule of genetic material that tries to inject itself by chemical means into your cells. By try I just mean random chance it happens to get stuck.
Now you'll get mixed answers from doctors and medical students because the line between what qualifies as life or a simple chemical reaction is straddled by viruses and prions.
The flu injected vaccine is dead, unlike the nasal spray vaccine (which is weakened and live). Fun fact: the nasal spray is not effective this year, thus why it should not have been available to people.
I get the needle every year because while I hate needles, I hate things in my nose worse. So not sure if they were available this year or not. I got into the habit because of "frail" cousin, then continued because I worked with elderly folks. Now I guess I could skip it, but its a habit, ya know?
I think Subunit Vaccines are the ones I thought were dead and "blended" because it says they are just part of a microbe instead of the whole thing so that might be why I thought they got cut up. That's an interesting page...
And I should probably get a tetanus shot at some point soon. I'm 10 years from my last one.
I get the shot every year, in part because my job/employer mandate it, but in part because it's a simple intervention to stave off potentially cruddy consequences. I've never tried the nasal mist.
I'd recommend getting your tetanus shot for sure. :)
A dead vaccine is properly called attenuated, and that virus lost its damage causing portion but its DNA can still be recognized by your white blood cells, making future presentations of that virus be destroyed quickly.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a dead vaccine is better called inactivated. Attenuated means weakened, hence the word live attenuated vaccine. You do not want your vaccine particles to cause the disease.
Furthermore, the genetic portion depends on the virus, just adding because I'm a student for this stuff. They go by Baltimore classification: http://www.virology.ws/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/baltimore-classification.jpg The link is an image for it. There exist a large number of RNA viruses, only retroviruses make DNA from the initial RNA. Just for future knowledge.
EDIT: The Baltimore classification might seem redundant because it outlines the path to mRNA(so it can make all its proteins) and not necessarily replication.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They specifically make a distinction between live and attenuated, live, and dead (inactivated). I claim the words live and dead are only used as an oversimplification in communicating to normal people.
For people that really want to understand, what attenuation vs inactivation actually does is really, really important.
attenuated is a weakened form. basically they teach it to not grow by growing the bacteria in a very hostile environement for a long term untill it basically replecates very slowly. This is the least ideal form of vaccine as it can get you sick and requires you to be growing these weakened vaccines and transporting it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well some vaccines ARE parts of viruses or germs that contain a specific part of it that the body will form antibodies against, like a specific protein or carbohydrate of that virus. These are called subunit vaccines or conjugate vaccines.
Examples of this type of vaccine include:
Hepatitis B
Influenza
Haemophilus Influenzae
Pertussis (part of DTaP combined immunization)
Pneumococcal
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Meningococcal
There are some vaccines that are the dead germ killed With heat treatment or chemicals. These are called inactivated vaccines.
Like the other poster whose name I can't be bothered to type out said, it's because vaccines can make you ill initially and so for a frail person it makes some sense to space them out/lessen the blow. I'm a healthy 24 year-old, recently had to have a Meningitis top-up and my body ached for a week. It was worth it (the third person this year on my campus was recently diagnosed with bacterial meningitis) but just one of those things.
Makes sense to me. She was pretty darn sickly, I used to sleep in a rocking chair with her against my chest so she could breathe. (Laying down she struggled sometimes, being propped up helped and the doctor told us we should do it. But I was relieved when she was able to sleep in the crib.)
sedaak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hugely beneficial to limit the components that anti-vaxxers complain about. If you split up the dosing all the valid complaints I've ever heard go away.
However, it also reveals how stupid it is to go to a doctors office for a single injection. Do we really need a doctor to look at the CDC chart for you? All we need is an accurate chronology.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you split up the vaccines, then you actually end up giving the kids more of many of the things that antivaxxers worry about. Preservatives and adjuvents are in each vaccine, and if you give them one shot that vaccinates against three different bugs, they only get one dose of the preservatives and adjuvents. If you split that up in the three shots, then they will get three doses of those extra ingredients. Splitting up vaccines means more of the scary sounding chemicals being injected into kids.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you back that up with numbers? That is completely contrary to everything I've read from the CDC. I've linked a citation below. If you do a search for adjuvant, like you cited, it is always listed per vaccine, with the combination vaccines containing significantly more.
Many vaccines don't contain thimerosal at all. Is there another preservative that we can look at to validate your claim?
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some children actually can't be vaccinated at all due to having immune system issues and otherwise being very sick. One of the most heartbreaking things ever was when a close friend had a family member with a small child who had beat some incredible odds and was finally out of the NICU and got to come home and was just starting to thrive when she caught whooping cough and it was months of touch and go and in and out of hospitals and off to more specialized hospitals. Terrifying stuff.
That's also why the whole herd immunity thing is so important. There will always be some who are unable to be vaccinated but if a high enough percentage of the rest of community is that's okay, these diseases won't spread. With so many folks opting out for these bullshit reasons it's extremely dangerous for the most fragile of children who have no choice on whether to be vaccinated or not.
I know nothing as far as splitting vaccines up and if it truly makes much difference but definitely a thing to be cautious with sicker children.
And the vaccine is nothing, I have some of the worst lungs ever (I used to think pneumonia was like a cold, totally harmless and common. Because I got it 2-9 times a year so it must be! Ha. Nope, I just have shitty lungs.) and the whooping cough vaccine didn't affect me at all. No fever, no cough, just a prick in the hip and X days later it was safe for me to care for my immune suppressed granddad.
I give side eye to people who won't vaccinate their healthy kids. I've been around too many who weren't healthy and we had to go through hoops to get them vaxxed and safe. (Its genetic too, my granddad when he found out there was a polio vaccine borrowed a van and as much money as he could and drove with his brother and all their kids to get them vaccinated a couple states over. They'd already had one child, my mom's cousin, get polio and damned if they were gonna let it happen again.)
I had no idea they could do this. My son reacted badly to this vaccine and almost went into febrile fever territory. We took him to the ER because he was delirious and we couldn't get the fever to break. Rotating meds every three hours finally did it but God, it was awful and scary.
No amount of your amateur "research" is going to be better than a proper medical/scientific education.
Flinkle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:29:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, I really want to agree with you in the context of this conversation, but after seven years of being sick, and seeing multiple doctors who would not listen to me when I kept telling them the things that were wrong with me, and was FINALLY vindicated by a head nurse and a doctor who actually knew their asses from holes in the ground...I can't. The only reason I have recovered as much as I have--from an undetected magnesium deficiency which caused a system-wide crash and all sorts of debilitating health problems--is due to my own unending hours of research. Why is it that I can use Google to find out that magnesium is tightly controlled by the body and deficiencies don't show up in serum blood tests unless you're literally about to die, but doctors who went to med school and have practiced for years don't seem to know, care or listen? All of this, due to years PPI meds for reflux. "Oh they're safe," I kept being told. Right.
I am not justifying anti-vaxxers here. At all. They are relying on a single false study and a washed-up TV bimbo for "evidence." But I will be the first to tell you that doctors can be clueless and stubborn when presented with things they don't see very often--including the uveitis that I was told was pinkeye. Good thing I knew better and went to an ophthalmologist or I could've gone blind. The number of things I have properly diagnosed myself with that multiple doctors completely ignored when I handed them the fucking diagnoses is embarrassing--hypothyroidism, the mag deficiency, idiopathic postprandial syndrome, gallstones, urticarial vasculitis...the ONLY reason I'm not bedridden like I was a few years ago is all because of my own research. I finally have a decent doctor now who actually listens and doesn't shrug shit off like the rest of them did, isn't afraid to say "I don't know," and isn't threatened when I come in with my own research. He says that even if I'm wrong, it gives him a starting point to work with.
I have no doubt that if I had listened to my previous doctors, I'd be dead now.
sedaak ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 04:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No amount of education is going to be better than a proper peer-reviewed study distributed, discussed, and accepted by the scientific community. Bashing people who question science is bashing the scientific process itself. The proper response is, "Why do you feel that way?"
If I said I was pro-science and pro-health, then went about arguing that sterilization of surgical tools prior to an operation was not only unnecessary, but dangerous, you would call me an idiot too.
It's like someone saying they're "Pro-mathematics" but also "Pro- 1+1=4," they're contradictory statements and you look like an idiot when you say them.
sedaak ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 08:19:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If someone whom I respected told me 1+1=4 I'd first ask why they would bother with something seemingly contradictory, and then the mathematical proof.
Instead it seems the reddit masses automatically attack any deviance from group think.
Take the EM drive for example. That scientist/engineer has had to really struggle to get it accepted even though he has a functioning prototype. It seems to defy conservation principles, but it is true and it works. It required a lot of open minds to finally get it to NASA and officially tested.
I'll gladly take the insults knowing that I'm standing up for science against group think.
The issue with that is by your logic, there are no stupid claims. Pigs can fly, evolution doesn't exist, the US government brought down the WTC with a controlled demolition. You claim that one has to respect those claims even though they're made with no scientific evidence or proof, yet the very nature of these statements implies that these people continue to believe in phony evidence or insane conspiracies that have already thoroughly been debunked multiple times.
The only controversy regarding the MMR vaccine, for example, is a purported link to autism. Despite the fact that this has been thoroughly proven to be false, people continue to believe it. Are you saying that these ignorant fools who will happily risk their children's health in order to maintain their egos should command respect? You're claiming that we have to assume that they're knowledgable in the scientific method, that they somehow have new evidence that the scientific world hasn't grasped yet, and they're posting the results on the bumper of their car and not contacting various journals?
You are trying to say that you need scientific evidence to prove somebody is or is not an idiot. You're not a martyr, you're just wrong.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only controversy regarding the MMR vaccine, for example, is a purported link to autism.
Well, not necessarily, as there is controversy separately about mercury. There is also controversy separately about aluminum. There is a lot of discussion why there is not more in depth studies of aluminum, but nothing particularly compelling on either side.
One of the proposed effects, autism, probably has never even been compensated by HRSA. But that data isn't published so it is rather hard to prove either way.
There are a bunch of other confirmed side effects, and proposed side effects. They are just rare enough that HRSA covers them and we go on with our lives.
The MMR vaccine does not contain mercury. People commonly believe that it contains thimerosal but there has never been thimerosal in the MMR vaccine as it is a live culture. Thimerosal hasn't been used in vaccines since the early 1990's. Of all the routinely recommended vaccines in the US, only one has mercury and that's the inactivated influenza vaccine. This has been one of the leading reasons why people believe the MMR-Autism link but once again, it is based entirely in fantasy.
In regards to aluminum, no live, viral vaccine contains aluminum including the MMR vaccine so it is also irrelevant to the point I was making.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so your claims are valid for MMR... it has no controversy that I am aware of. I think it is awesome that you are willing to discuss individual vaccines. Just being able to explore that gets the crowd back to science.
When that "scientific evidence" is one falsified study by a sue happy doctor who lost his medical license and had all his credentials revoked, yeah I have no problem dismissing that.
sedaak ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 05:11:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you sure that is what they would cite if you asked them? That seems awfully convenient.
Because I wrote a paper on this and that is the only scientific study done that finds evidence that vaccines cause autism (and it has since been redacted because he lied). Literally every other study done says otherwise. So they're either citing that study or Jenny McCarthy, not sure which is worse tbh.
Almost akin to 'I didn't call your Mum a whore, I merely spoke to everyone down the pub who all say she is, and it warrants further investigation'. Deserves the same reaction.
He also did assert it multiple times (saw him do it on live TV), it's a big reason why he lost his license to practice in the U.K. I sincerely hope he gets necrotising fasciitis of his scrotum for all the damage caused and how far he put back both vaccination and autism research (funnily enough one lying bastard wasting research money makes them less generous when genuine research opportunities come up).
Note: father of an autistic son. Repeatedly have been asked why I vaccinated my son and that it probably caused it (no, really. No idea why they expect to survive those words passing their lips...)
That really is unfortunate. I watch very little TV and wasn't paying attention to this issue when it initially occured as I didn't expect anybody would truly believe it at the time.
it's a big reason why he lost his license to practice in the U.K.
This is what Wakefield said but it was never an official charge. The main issue was fairly severe ethical issues in the research method, including giving autistic kids invasive procedures (spinal taps and colonoscopies) without proper justification.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Molefields? Or molehills? It is a pretty big difference and you could mean either. Molehills are the normal choice.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but there is a strong visual of an entire prairie wiped of edible plant life.
If I didn't know any better, I would think Jenny McCarthy works for the CIA and this is a population control method. Only the lowest of the gene pool would take major health tips from a washed up model.
legone ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish it only hurt those who voluntarily didn't vaccinate. :(
Hmmmm, I wonder if we could get 4Chan to take this up and have them go crazy with it. Maybe have those ratfucks actually do a good thing for once in their useless lives....
Are these the same people who voted this year, quite possibly for the first time.
tuga2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually they are usually upper middle class or upper class. Look at where outbreaks of preventable illnesses like measels break out and it very common in Portland and California.
sedaak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:57:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you looked into it? They do cite studies, which have then been debunked. It is bad science, not mysticism, that led them down that path.
Measles killed 135,000 people in the world THIS YEAR
I'm going to have to assume you mean 2016...
Dason37 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:47:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, 2017. This year said "oh, you're gonna bitch about losing a couple hundred famous people? How about some measles for everyone! Still glad 2016 is over?"
Didn't you hear? Florida just had a huge population drop.
tuga2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most outbreaks are in California if I'm not mistaken. Everyone assumes it's stupid rednecks who think Jesus told them not take their vaccines but it's generally upermiddle class people with an above average education.
You know, I'm a relatively new mom(little miss is 16 months old) and every single doctors appointment we've had to take her to you could tell that the doctor was gearing up for an argument when it came to vaccinations. The visible relief that came over thier face when both me and my husband were like we know thats all a bunch of bullshit and that modern medicine is around for a reason, you go ahead and give her any shot you want. We're big fans of her being alive.
One of my good friends from high school became a registered nurse. At some point, she bought into the anti-vax movement. She's not as vocal about it now as she is about being anti-circumcision, but I desperately want a way to get it through to her the potential for harm she has presented to her children - potential harm that grows with every other misinformed parent that denies their child the protections granted by immunization.
I don't get it. She's a smart girl. But the impact misinformation-via-Internet has presented to our otherwise well-educated public is mind-boggling.
I honestly believe the medical community should take a hard stance on the subject. Her professional position puts her in a spot to have a strong impact on impressionable minds. If only I could get her to understand her lack of critical thinking without potentially sacrificing our friendship. :(
I went to school for 11 years, spent 10,000 hours studying and just want to make sure your child stays healthy. Quit thinking your 5 minutes of internet research means anything
I'm not from the US, but my pediatrician was convinced that colds were caused by not putting a hat on in cold weather. If it wasn't for my internet research, I wouldn't know better either. The problem is not people doing internet research, it's people doing internet research badly and coming to the wrong conclusion.
Aussie here: tell me, what should I do if I meet a practicing medical doctor who believes vaccines are harmful? At least, she alleges she's a medical doctor. The cognitive dissonance makes this hard for me to believe.
Not only that but wakefield himself has said that he hadn't intended for the vaccine to be lead to autism just that further research would have needed to be done to even draw a conclusion. On the otherhand he deserved to lose his license with the treatment of the study anyways.
I had somebody on my page link the growing number of vaccines to the growing number of autism diagnoses. I replied "I don't want to debate you on this, but is it possible that there are just more people getting kids diagnosed now that they don't need to worry about threats of their child being institutionalized? Because I know for sure, if my son displayed the symptoms now and the way to deal with it is to put him in an institution, I wouldn't have had him diagnosed. Correlation does not equal causation"
Yes. Yes. Seriously people. Get it through your damn heads. Every journal article saying vaccines and autism are linked references Wakefield's work, which was complete crap.
ArrrOne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This grinds my gears. I know an otherwise very intelligent woman with numerous kids who won't vaccinate any of them. She's convinced that there is a link between autism and vaccines. When I told her I thought the research was dodgy and couldn't possible be credible based on such a small sample size, she insisted on anecdotal evidence about a family she knows with a severely autistic child.
I'm not vaccinated but I'm 17 now and have still never received any type of vaccination. Is there anything I should get or is it something I should just let be?
My kid was a week shy of his final booster for strep pneumonia and got a rare case of it in his right kidney. By the time they figured out the problem, he was going septic. Then an IV accident in hospital almost caused him to lose his arm -- as it is, he's still scarred and it's been over a decade.
Two weeks later, with his final booster complete, he might not have caught that and we would have been saved hospital visits, accidents, and literally months of follow up.
It wasn't our fault, we were on schedule with vaccines. We just hadn't finished the regime because of his age.
We were pro vaccine before and now I tell this horror story to anyone who even considers not vaccinating. It was one of the worst experiences of my life, and my kid is fine now. It could have been so much worse.
A family friend had 4 kids. Apparently all of them were born without autism but after the last kid got a vaccination (I don't recall which one) at 4 months old, "signs of autism" started showing i.e. "he was acting weird" and she believes the vaccine gave her son autism. Mum believes it.
I just... Do you ever think that he started showing signs around that age? Kids don't usually start showing signs until 6 months to a year or so. I was a child when that happened but my mum brings it up every now and again and I just sigh. I really hope that child got all his vaccinations.
There were doctors and medical researchers who swore (while on Big Tobacco's payroll) that there was no link between cigarette smoking and cigarettes.
There have been tens of thousands of medical researchers and doctors who have testified in a court of law that "there is no conclusive evidence that x is harmful" where x = lead paint, asbestos, DDT, thalidomide, saccharine, corn syrup, and on and on. And a much larger number of doctors stood on the sidelines, because the evidence was "conflicting."
People know that the medical profession is corruptible because it has repeatedly been corrupted.
So, while the anti-vaxxers are nutjobs (I think), they are tapping into some terrifyingly real fears.
Which is in no way your fault! But it makes it less incomprehensible.
My aunt claims to have done 17 years of research on the subject. She claims that there isn't a single independent study that isn't government influenced (because of corruption, because doctors get paid to do their jobs, apparently).
It took me all of 15 seconds to google scholar about 100 papers. I told her that I bet my ass she won't read a single one.
I wish this post was permanently displayed in huge letters on every billboard, bus, advertising screen, etc in the world. We are killing each other by bringing back long gone diseases due to one FALSE claim. Makes me so scared and angry.
stacyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to clarify: Andrew Wakefield didn't produce any research linking autism to MMR vaccine. The conclusion of his paper was "we have NOT proved any link between the MMR vaccine and autism (or the GI tract symptom complex.)" That being said, that was the general message spread after publication.
I know a girl who is a nurse, that refuses to vaccinate her other children because she thinks vaccines caused her 1st born to have asthma. It couldn't be the fact that she smoked throughout her entire pregnancy and thereafter. To top it off, she's 8 months pregnant and just announced she hasn't smoked in 4 months. Smh.
Dason37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is allergic to the pertussis part of the TDaP or whatever it's called, it almost killed her as a child. When it came time for our daughters first rounds (she was so tiny, like 3 months, at the most 6, I don't remember the scheduling), my wife brought this up with the pediatrician, and asked if there were separated versions where we could skip the one part she might be allergic to. The doctor was extremely nonchalant about it, said sure there were, but let's just give her the normal one. We can watch her for a minute to make sure she's ok. Made me angry. Nothing happened, and I'm not anti-vax, I just think maybe she could have been a little safer...if the kid had a reaction I don't think they were equipped to save her life at the pediatrician s office
I wonder sometimes if it would be more effective to just start a rumor that Jenny McCarthy is part of some sick death cult or is profiting off of dead babies or something.
So if I were to have identical twins, there's a 75% chance they'll have autism?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i have a cousin who's a major anti-vaxxer and it kills my mother, who has a bachelors in health technology.
i don't think she takes the 'vaccines cause autism' (i've never cared to start the fight about it) route but she's very much a 'clean living' type and anything with 'chemicals' is bad for the body. like i guess if you can't pronounce it it's not good for you?
You're not the hero we deserve but the hero we need.
zim3019 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love my pediatrician office for so many reasons. One of which is the sign in every office and out front that basically says if you don't vaccinate your kids they won't keep you as a patient. Unless you have a medically valid reason not to vaccinate.
People see a scientific name and flip their shit. I've had patients freaking out over the drug name on their prescriptions, asking what kind of "chemicals" their doctors are "forcing on them."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you print that last paragraph into a poster for every pediatricians office in the country please?
Why has no one sued Jenny McCarthy for endangerment to children or for giving medical advice without a fucking PhD? When will I get to see a celebrity get their ass kicked in court for using their platforms to endanger the public for money? All the doctors in the world are pissed about this and I haven't seen ONE class Action suit? Edit: spelling from my phone
I need to vent god dammit. My aunt is super controlling of my cousin and wont let my cousin get her daughter vaccinated. She believes that she'll get autism and she didn't even let her get the fucking vitamin K shot. Yknow. The one for clotting.
Instead she orders all of these shit supplements online from fucking Tennessee or some shit. Her and all of my cousin's are fully vaccinated and nothing happened to them. Why is she risking this baby's life???
This. Mumps are COMING BACK and are spreading rapidly all over my state - Arkansas. Because people quit fucking vaccinating and then send their child to school. Its all downhill from there. I cannot comprehend the DUMBASSERY.
mdds2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree 100% on the MMR vaccine. Do medical professionals feel the same way about parents who decline a flu shot for their kids?
Not all heroes wear capes and spandex. You, are awesome.
kaiten408 ยท 9000 points ยท Posted at 20:38:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A mother came in with her son to discuss treating his acne. Son was about 15 years old and didn't really care about the acne but mom did. After going over treatment options she asked if he just needed to "do it" to get rid of the acne. A grown woman with a child thought that by him having sex his acne would magically go away...smh
EDIT: It seems that many people think that having being a teenager = acne, thus having sex makes you a man and you would no longer have acne. Odd thought process IMO. Also, WTF is up with the whole broken arms thing?
EDIT 2: RIP my inbox. Thank you for all the responses and clarification on the broken arm/incest saga, I feel like I've officially become a redditor and learned one of it's darkest secrets
Mountfang ยท 3015 points ยท Posted at 21:07:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father still thinks this will work for me, and points it out during every conversation, even though I am not a virgin. I am also 25 years old.
kaiten408 ยท 1591 points ยท Posted at 21:11:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of all the crazy 'home remedies' I've heard, this one is by far the most confusing to me. I just don't understand the correlation between the two
My assumption is that it's a convoluted understanding of "hormones" and how they work. Like the acne is caused by an overabundance of "male hormones" built up due to sexual frustration, which would somehow be released when they "do it".
We can't change their age, but I f we change the masturbate to copulate then maybe the acne will also change.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah this sounds ridiculous but i can confirm, when i masturbate less i have less acne, like basically zero breakouts. and yeah, an orgasm from sex is different than orgasm from masturbating, there've been some studies on it.
Maybe there's a psychosomatic reason for your acne then.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:42:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh no. try it out youll see, if you have acne and are a dude. im aware of psychosomatic stuff, this is not that i guarantee it. ive tried it a bunch of times.
That's...not how proof works. You can't double-blind yourself. The mere fact that you were actively trying to influence your acne with a certain behaviour might be triggering the psychosomatic response, too.
What would in your opinion be the biological non-psychosomatic mechanism behind it? I'm curious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to hang out with a guy who thought that people got fat after marriage because during sex men gave women testosterone, thus making them manly, and woman gave estrogen to men, making them womanly. He wouldn't take the far simpler explanation that newlyweds in our culture cook to impress, have an unprecedented income freedom and haven't ever lived alone before, letting them eat whatever they want. He also couldn't explain why hot people who fuck around a lot don't also get fatter.
That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard of...unless I was back to being 15 years old and trying to convince my girlfriend to have sex with me. Then it would be an excellent point!
That is not true. I've seen men and women have acne from the time they were 11 all the way up to their 40s. Everyone is different and their acne responds different. You don't just turn 18 and your acne clears up.
Figms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL ejaculation releases "hormones" from the body.
I probably could have picked up this information back in college if only my uterus had quit flying around and bumping into my other organs all the time.
rondeb22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that were true, I'd have major acne since I'm still a virgin at 18. But I've always had a clean face.
I agree, stress can make any problems worse including acne, but I got the feeling that these people think that having sex is not just a treatment but a full blown cure for it. I could be wrong.
My guess is the completely unscientific correlation that teenager = acne and teenager = virgin, therefore if you have sex you become an "adult" and the acne will therefore go away.
Acne is associated with 'boyhood', when you have sex for the first time you're no longer a 'boy', you're 'a man', so you don't have acne anymore. Same reason people claim whiskey will make hair grow on your chest.
I think it's like "Teenagers have acne... adults don't... HEY!! If my son/daughter has sex, it'll make him/her an adult and (s)he won't have acne anymore!!"
EDIT: I just assumed a half the worlds gender. Oopsies.
GazzP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:33:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All that acne is just really backed up jizz seeping out of any hole it can find in the skin...
It's just association from their experience I guess.
People that take care of themselves = get laid
People that don't groom themselves = virgin
but that's naive to actually believe in
They probably have those associations flipped where
Get laid = no acne (effects of taking care of yourself magically appear)
Virgin = will still have acne
And they probably have it explained to themselves through some convoluted theory of hormones.
emrau ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:28:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not actually that crazy. Testosterone can cause acne. For example, I'm a lady but I'm on an acne medication that, when my body releases testosterone, it doesn't become absorbed in my body. So maybe they thought if you had sex that you wouldn't have as much extra testosterone in your body? I have no idea. I don't even know if there's a relationship between sex and testosterone that way...
Testosterone by itself did not cause acne. It causes an increased in sebum (oil) production and secretion which leads to increased bacterial growth on/in the skin which causes acne. Having sex does change your hormones but not permanently and should have no real effect on your skin.
Acne is what happens when the oils in your unused semen is dissolved into your blood stream and then escapes your body through your face and back. These oils are much lighter than your blood, so the fluids separate and the oils collect in the top of your body. This is why most people do not get acne on their feet. Sometimes people will get it on their knees if they have a habit of sleeping with their legs bent and their knees elevated.
There are two way to fix the problem of acne:
You can deal with the oils as they are released through the skin. This is how most modern treatments handle the issue. You can apply creams and lotions and diffuse the oil as it reaches the surface so that it's impact to your skin is less noticeable.
The more direct, yet less Politically Correct way to handle the problem, is by removing the oils from the system entirely through wholesome intercourse. I say "wholesome" intercourse because something like masturbation or casual sex will not solve the problem; the emotions of shame and guilt during unlawful sexual acts release adrenaline into your system that makes the semen release their oils early, prior to ejaculation. In fact, this toxic release of oils is more complete and creates more potent oils that actually exacerbate the acne. Which is obvious if you walk through a high school and look at the young boys that are obviously chronic masturbators.
There is the idea that semen is good for the skin? Though I generally see that being put towards ladies as an excuse to give them facials. So not sure how accurate it is.
Easy, he'll have sex and as a result, he will want more sex. Only to get more sex, he will have to look better and will start focusing more on personal hygiene.
That's a common one, along with eating greasy foods, red meat, dairy products, etc. While certain foods, in certain people, will cause their acne and/or rosacea to flare, NOT eating certain foods does not guarantee that you won't have acne
u4iak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kept a food journal for many years. It helped me eliminate the migraines that I would get frequently in my 20s.
Migraines are definitely affected by your diet, but it's hard to pinpoint exactly what triggers it, but obviously you documented it and it helped you figure out what it was
If you have sex, you must be pretty confident. If you're confident, you have a social presence. If you're social, you care about how you look. If you care about how you look, that means showering/cleaning your face all the time, maybe even your room/pillow cases. Reduces acne.
"Knowing" that acne is a result of hormonal changes and ignoring that it can also be caused by other factors, there is the belief that those raging hormones calm down when someone has sex and the acne is reduced.
When I was growing up this was a fairly commonly believed one. My mom explained that it was because having sex would ease the stress of all the hormones, and then your skin would start clearing up. To clarify she never even remotely suggested that it was a smart thing to do. It was something I heard someone else say and asked her about it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is better than thinking that fucking a virgin will cure you of your AIDS. That leads to degenerates in Africa raping infants.
Education. Get Education. But make sure the facts are right.
Next time I get a pimple I'm telling my wife that this works.
ethlian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bring an ex to the house and just have her say I've banged him to your dad than just have her leave, literally just that, he wants to be upfront and weird well he can get a hell of a lot of the same back
Obligatory mention of /r/asianbeauty. If you're interested in trying something that helps many people with persistent skin problems, come check it out. There's a lot about the science behind healthy skin including why it's important to know the pH of your cleanser.
"I am not a virgin. I have had sex. No stop, don't say anything, I had more than one sex. I had all the sex. Yes really. I've been with eight girls the past two years, two of them you introduced me during that family reunion last month and sadly one of them I fucked right after we got to know each other. I've penetrated literally every hole I could put my dick in. I have unvirginized myself in every way. I have even hooked up with guys, given and taken. Yesterday I didn't come home late, I snuck back in the morning after I participated in my first orgy. So please dad,
sex doesn't cure acne. But if you know someone then I'm sure to give it a shot again."
43 and I still struggle with acne, despite being sexually active. I would kill to have clear skin, something I haven't had in 30 years regardless of what I've tried.
Gravesh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just a manga about a man with a face full of pimples who pins a small girl down and proceeds to squeeze his face so the pus slowly oozes down onto her face. For some reason the pus has a consistency of semen, it seems.
Japan and manga is fucking weird.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. People are weird. Japan just has the market cornered on manga.
What if you you had a rare disease that everytime you jerked off you came out of all your pimples instead of the regular way when it came to orgasm time.
Thats terrifying and also sounds like a really shitty x-files episode.
I saw a short film in a Florida film festival, where the boy had huge, lemon sized pimples over his body, and the girl had a compulsive obscesion with popping bubble wrap. They hooked up, and at the end it looked like a food fight with strawberry cheese cake. (probably what they used for props)
Ryaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds so good. I've never had acne, but I've had a couple pimples and if I could masturbate and have it pop all of them I would literally orgasm a second time from that.
Sevinex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You monster. My Chipotle burrito is now going unfinished and into the fridge for the rest of tonight.
It's really absurdly fucked up, because it leads not just to further infections but also rape (for obvious reasons) and child abuse (... ... more likely to be a virgin).
:(
ludsmile ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Djibouti and Kenya have been doing a pretty good job of sex ed since that disgusting myth became public. Not often you see rural Muslim communities with big billboards about using condoms.
Unfortunately we still saw it, we also did humanitarian work (medical exercises) and I had to very carefully explain to a "bought bride" (all of 14yrs old) that her 52yo husband was not avoiding her because he "felt sick" (we knew from seeing him around the city that he was gay, pedo, prolific, and wore no protection in a country where child prostitutes run about 60% infection rates) so that she needed visit the city doctor asap.
Fortunately one of the village's women elders was mothering this child-bride (since she spoke a different dialect of Arabic, no Somali and no French and she was auctioned off at 13-14 ffs). Maman was very worldly, so she was a big help in giving this girl the pieces of the puzzle in small doses. I found out via the grapevine that the local imam was about as open as you could hope for around there, Maman wrangled a promise from him to make sure the girl was kept safe with all this going on. "Bought brides" turn up dead fairly often.
That's not something you can sort out in a day, especially with cultural barriers that big... I'd never even met a "bought bride" before then, let alone knowing how to tell a Muslim teenager that her husband's gay, pedo, cheating, and likely moving past HIV into fullblown AIDS... like where do you even start with that? I hope I did the right thing by organizing Maman and the Imam to help her out... I often wonder if she's alright.
I'm brushing up on my Arabic so I can go back to some of the places I worked and see how everyone is doing.
qaisjp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
phil8248 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:41:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why they have cases of HIV positive men gang raping baby girls. Also, this was believed in England in the 1800's except it was syphilis not HIV.
jmat83 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:32:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that this isn't the point, because horrific child sex abuse... but... even if it were true that you could cure HIV by having sex with a virgin, how would gang rape help? Only the first guy would be cured, because once he entered her, she wouldn't be a virgin, and the HIV-curing virgin sex magic would be all used up.
phil8248 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:37:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not exactly sure what their thinking might be. What you say makes sense but superstition could make for warped reasoning. In 2014 I went to work in an Ebola clinic in Monrovia Liberia. We required 24 hour armed guards because there were some locals who thought we were deliberately infecting patients to test vaccines, or we were stealing blood and organs or we were practicing witchcraft. Clearly lots of illogical, superstitious or suspicious thinking. There were also politically motivated groups that hate any white person. That I can actually grasp since whites have traditionally exploited much more than helped Africans. The guards were needed too. Both our secure housing complex and our secure treatment facility were assaulted by small armed groups.
I think "History Cold Case" on BBC figured out that one of their skeletons had been an impoverished girl infected with syphilis about age 6 or 8 :'(
phil8248 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:31:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Michael Crichton discusses it in his book The Great Train Robbery. That's where I learned it. I think if we knew of all the sadness and brutal suffering in the world it would destroy us. Just hearing snippets can make you physically ill. There was a guy arrested in the Philippines who was from Thailand. He specialized in child porn that featured really young girls, 4, 5 years old. He'd video tape them being repeatedly raped while they were forced to dig their own graves. He sold this on the dark web all over the earth. I cannot even wrap my brain around how sick that is. And that's just a tiny glimpse. There are literally millions of stories like that. I'm a disciple of Tom Waits. We're just monkeys with guns and money.
I'm more of a "human is a popular look on this planet, but sometimes yoy get the human look without any human inside" sort of person. Don't look up the rape of Nanking or some of the illustrations people made of the British putting down the various Scottish rebellions, or the Inquisition for that matter.
phil8248 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These examples involve a nationalistic rationalization. Each of the offending groups found a way to dehumanize their victims. Individual acts of violence do fit your idea of looking human without being human inside. Socialization is part of it too though. A child raised in a way to make him violent and amoral may have been capable of being human but lost the chance.
In my view, it's possible to overcome a bad start, but plenty of people have a great start and become terrorists anyway. /my old line of work was that general area
phil8248 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in a prison for 9 years and saw plenty of people who you would think had a great start in life end up doing some very evil things. There were also some who you realized didn't get much of a chance at all.
The even nastier follow-up is that many people in these communities reason that the only way you can be sure its a virgin is to make sure it's an infant. :(
cornicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In South Africa specifically it's a white virgin. In order to keep safe as a kid I had to learn all of the terrible things that happens to little white girls and I'm very very glad we left.
Beckella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also that men build up a "heat" if they only have sex with condoms or abstain entirely. The "heat" is bad for your health and the only way you can release it is through unprotected sex. Maybe with virgins... I don't remember. But there is a thing about heat. There are a lot of education campaigns though that are working to balance the public health message with respecting cultural beliefs. Tough to balance that I think though...
Peidae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get how this belief spreads. Like okay, you as a generation might come up with it and try it but future generations would absolutely know it doesn't work. How does the idea keep spreading?
actually come to think about it if that's the way their minds think they probably scold the virgin saying they weren't a virgin and that getting infected is their punishment
When I was around 22, my friend asked me how much sex I was having cause my boobs were so big. She thought that having sex gave you bigger boobs. We both went to an all-girls school that was pretty thorough with sex ed cause when there's 1000 girls, I guess you have to...but she legitimately believed that, and I had to tell her it was not true and she thought I was lying about all my sexcapades.
I can only assume that idea originated from some misunderstanding or joke about chicken breasts? Do you know what turkey or duck would do to a girl's chest?
I also went to an all women's college that was thorough with sex-ed. Many girls were quite upset when a panelist at one event said that if you're truly ready then your first time won't hurt. I was a virgin at the time, but I found out later that some of us just have really really stubborn hymens.
Guys like boobs, and having sex with women who have boobs. Losing your virginity makes you a woman, and having boobs are part of becoming a woman. Therefore, the more sex you have, the more of a woman you are and the bigger your boobs get. What's so hard to understand? /s
Well if the sex leads to pregnancy and the pregnancy leads to childbirth and childbirth leads to breastfeeding, then yes, sex can make your boobs bigger. Maybe your friend just thought you were leaving all your infants at home.
She told me she'd been having sex a bunch and her boobs just aren't getting bigger and how long was I having sex cause maybe in a few years hers would be bigger? It's been a few years, no kids and I think her boobs are likely the same.
I'm pretty sure this is a lie a guy told her, she was kind of gullible when guys were involved.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. In high school my best friend had a Japanese exchange student living with her for a full year. I'm sure you've seen how Japanese folks have some strange beauty superstitions. This girl was obsessed with getting larger breasts and I just happened to be the one with the biggest bust of the people she hung around with so she was always asking me if her latest crazy busy enlarging idea was the key. Was pretty funny the day she hooked on soy milk (and yes I know there's some things about soy mimicking estrogen and what not but still) and then discovered I'd been lactose intolerant since birth.
Apparently they sell candy bars and things in Japan that purport to increase your bust size. I suppose if you gain enough weight that could sort of work...
Thank gosh no one has ever assumed I just got a lot of sex in my formidable years. Lol.
I'm not saying they don't know stuff, obviously they need to know many things work in their most basic forms to at least be able to write a story about it. But they are not trained medical personnel and are not up to date on the most recent information available, so people taking medical advice from them is ridiculous IMO.
His acne was not that bad, I'm sure he won't have a problem once he decides that he wants to but I'm not going to add to his mother's false beliefs and have her go home and try to force her son to have sex with someone to "cure" his acne. Plus the crazy woman would be back when it didn't work which I DEFINITELY do not want to deal with
Deray22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this guy managed to fuck up the most easy joke around here
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I put it there because I found it quite odd that she really wanted him to get laid. You can infer the rest. Otherwise, she is just a fuckin moron for believing sex would get rid of acne.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:04:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the joke. I was just saying it was badly crafted.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geez mom, how the hell am I supposed to get laid with 2 broken arms
lilvon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WTF is up with the whole broken arms thing?
Couple years back their was an AMA of a kid who had an incestuous relationship with is mother. It came about from his becoming "backed up" as he had broken both of his arms. Really interesting AMA but its become a reddit meme now whenever it can be slightly applied.
gronke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if anyone has answered your question about the broken arms. It's a classic reddit post about a guy who claimed he was in an accident and had both arms in a cast. This meant he was depressed and couldn't masturbate. So his mom jerked him off out of love/pity. It's been a ongoing joke for years since.
Okay since no one has explained the broken arms thing as far as I can tell I'll help out. It's a meta reference that gets crammed into every fucking thread even remotely about sex.
Long story short, dude came in and did an AMA, one of the bigger ones in Reddit history - especially because it was verified. His unique thing that made him worth an AMA? He had been fucking his mom for years. His dad was aware. As for the broken arms, his explanation for why it started was one summer he broke both arms, and his mom was kind (to put it nicely) enough to offer to jerk him off. Handjobs turned to blowjobs turned to healed arms and fucking. Reddit did not think this reason was as logical as this young man did, and a meme was born.
Eshido ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The whole broken arms thing is a reference to a very infamous incest story that appeared on Reddit, which included a boy with broken arms and casts. I think you can see where it led...
c3534l ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Odd thought process IMO
Dude, it's actually quite common and even you probably do it about stuff you don't know. It's basically just inferring causation from correlation without any plausible mechanism for causation. When I was much younger I asked my doctor if in order to get my heart rate up at the gym if I couldn't just drink some coffee.
I get what you are saying and I'm sure I've done it numerous times in my life, but I guess I'm just to analytical. The idea that when you have sex you become a "man" and just like that you are no longer prone to developing acne makes no sense in terms of science/physiology, at least to me.
c3534l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me wrong, that person must have been eating some paint chips as a kid or grew up Mormon or something. But the IT staff at your hospital probably also thinks you're a moron.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WTF is up with the whole broken arms thing?
I'd be happy to explain but it is rather gross......
Kid had two broken arms and got super horny so his mom jacked him off. Some moms are really there for their kids.
It has become a really stale meme. The short version is that a Redditor told a story about how he broke his arms and his mother jacked him off because he was unable to and sexually frustrated. Now every time a mother or young male child and something sexual gets brought up in a comment people race to respond with "broken arms hur dur."
Trey5169 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In terms of "broken arms..." I can't find the original link, but this is a nice and simple outline.
"Basically there was an AMA about a guy who had a sexual relationship with his mother when he was younger. It happened when he had broken his arms and became frustrated because he couldn't masturbate. So his mom gave him a hand job and then it went off from there.
So now and then you'll see someone say "broken arms" which is usually responded with "every fucking thread" or something like that." -some redditor
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems that many people think that having being a teenager = acne, thus having sex makes you a man and you would no longer have acne. Odd thought process IMO.
Indeed. Everyone knows that he would have to steal livestock from his neighbor's fields before the acne magically disappears. He has to prove himself a warrior to be a man, not just hump some girl's leg for a few seconds!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:22:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You and another person commented about arms breaking, I don't get it though
Ferl74 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say something about this too, it's about a mom that jerked her son off because he had two broken arms and was in a bad mood and mom thought it would help him "relax". There's a reddit post about it around here somewhere. But I like to pretend the guy was trolling and everyone was fooled by his post.
Ferl74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god I was going to link you to the post, but as I was going though it, it turns out it was more than masturbation... And it is 100% real as the guy and his mom talked to a doctor about it and reddit mods were able to verify it with said doctor. I won't subject you to what I just read. But just know it truly is WTF??
Yeah, poor kid was pretty embarrassed when she asked that question. Ironically many times when kids come in with their parents for acne it's the parents that are more concerned with it and always push for more treatment options
Emptamar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel weird asking this, but I'm a girl and orgasms typically clear up my light acne? I assumed it was due to stress relief.
Stress affects everything in our body, so any form of stress relief usually helps with problems that you may have. Women have pretty strong hormonally induced acne which usually fluctuates around their period, so I'm not surprised that it helps to reduce your acne flares.
My doctor actually told me this when I was around the same age. My mum had taken me for some other reason, and she asked incidentally what we could do about my acne. The doctor responded, "Get a girlfriend." I didn't get it at the time but my mum was highly amused.
Perhaps he was implying that by getting a girlfriend you would make more attempts at cleaning your face and trying to treat the acne? Honestly for most people, OTC products work great but require consistency and many adolescent boys are not consistent with the treatment
As I remember it, he sort of muttered it to my mother rather than directly to me. It seemed pretty clear he was trying to be subtle about it. He was pretty old school. Years later when I went to him because I thought I was depressed, he told me "Depression doesn't just come down from the heavens, something must be making you depressed." For a doctor to have such a wrong understanding of such a common complaint was baffling to me.
It's also really frustrating when parents force their kids through things that aren't very necessary. I'm hoping my in-laws don't try to make me act that same way when I have a kid with their son. This is going to be fun...
This. So many times parents drag their kids in to have their acne treated when the kids themselves could care less. It's especially bad when the parents start demanding accutane and trying to force the child to request it.
I think some of the parents are living vicariously through their children. Others are just extremely vain and don't want their children to be "that kid with the bad acne"
btruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, my wife had a lifelong acne problem that went away after she had our son. I would not recommend this as a treatment though.
AXISMGT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, he does need to.
Any chance we can break both his arms for convenience?
joomper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way I can even remotely try to justify this is that maybe when the mother started having sex, she also started using birth control pills, which often clear up your skin, but she thought it was just due to the sex?
Where the penis goes in the female reproductive system during sex.
I had to explain this to a first-year female medical student. So someone with presumably 4 years of a pre-med/biology education.
To her credit, she understood that the vagina was involved somehow. She just also thought the penis kept going through the cervix and uterus to the uterine tubes....and maybe further?
There's a very, very old GIF of an anime girl getting banged from behind and on each thrust, the head emerges first from her right nostril, then her left nostril, then her mouth. I'm sifting through old hard drives and I can't find it. Google has no idea what I'm talking about.
[deleted] ยท 371 points ยท Posted at 00:52:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm concerned that a small corner of the internet might now think that the vagina is connected to the nose and there are sphincters to go through. The female reproductive organs are in no way connected to the GI tract or the airways, at all. No sphincters
diothar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's gone. Can you point me in the right direction? Not even going to try to come up with a b.s. "For a friend excuse." I'm freaking curious as shit about it.
Incidentally, the search uncovered my old demo CD and cover art, an app I wrote for running a D&D game, my weightlifting logs, college writing homework, and my MUGEN characters.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, how desperately one searches for one's old, weird porn gifs, i feel you!
On the other hand, you sound like a pretty talented kind of guy (or girl). Nice and keep up the good work!
MUGEN was a sort-of open source game engine like ten years ago, where you dropped in your own art assets and did a little light programming and you could make your own fighting game.
My favorite character I made was Zelda 2 Link. I set it up so that there was a small chance that his basic stab attack would drop a magic jar that he could pick up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice! Thanks
Ben_zyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm getting spammed with that one a lot at the moment as part of a 'dating' site, a deeply unconvincing porn decorated one at that, they seem to want my credit card details to 'verify' my age as well!
Which is frustrating because I can almost 100% guarantee that at some point in those three years, her coursework included a 1 hour lecture on implantation and uterine anatomy.
You can lead them to water, but you can't make them drink.
Almost as if we're a product of a messy, messy and not at all logical process called evolution through natural selection. Nature has no plans, just results.
You know, in all my time as a radiographer, I never once thought about the fact that our arms are only connected skeletally by the collar bones! Ironically, I currently have a broken clavicle! Still didn't cross my mind.
If you had used a word that starts with B for the second word instead of dick, you'd have the alter ego of Lyndon Johnson, who used to whip it out on the regular, apropos of absolutely nothing.
At the height of his career, Holmes had his penis insured by Lloyd's of London for $14 million. Holmes reveled in claiming he was insured "for $1 million an inch."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, man. Jon Lajoe claims to have a dick that's 25 inches long, and 12 inches thick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She just also thought the penis kept going through the cervix and uterus to the uterine tubes....and maybe further?
Maybe she's an avid reader of John K. Pe-ta? Don't google that.
kapu_koa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:20:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I googled it. Among the first things i saw was a man, saying "I have three size D batteries lodged in my asshole as a defense measure. I call it 'the shining dragon'".
What have I done? I'm going deeper.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is some horrifying erotica out there that makes me wonder if people are at all familiar with anatomy. "She moaned as he pushed and penetrated past her cervix and into her womb..."
No. Nope. Nooooooo.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the magically self-lubricanting anus/rectum!
Lesbian erotica is the worst. Always blatantly clear when it was written by some clueless probably young guy who's never apparently seen a woman's anatomy.
Also love the ridiculous euphemisms. He pushed his meat stick deep into my baby maker.
A guy in freshman health raised his hand and asked if a guy had sex with a pregnant woman would his penis hit the baby. Health teacher assured him the baby would be fine.
One time I lost a tampon in myself and I'm not a big fan of sticking my hands down there, so I had my boyfriend help me. While he was feeling around he goes, "I think I can feel your fallopian tubes!"
I also never figured out what happened to the tampon. I think it feel out when I jumped in the lake...
maybe all her sexual experiences had been with ducks
whittiez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a boyfriend who thought it would be most pleasing sexually for a girl to have her cervix penetrated. I'm very glad he didn't try too hard to make that happen.
The question mark at the end is what really sells it for me.
NightMgr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend used to work in a very large famous teaching hospital back in the 70s prior to internet porn.
Once a year, the most well attended lecture of the year because non-students attended, would be porn films.
They would demonstrate various sexual practices, positions, slang terms.
Many of the students there were virgins, had never dated, and never even kissed. They were overachievers who didn't listen to schoolyard talk and their parents were too uptight to tell them anything about sex.
Not a doctor, but a nursing student. I was checking the carseat and walking a postpartum mom out of the hospital. Mind you, this was her fifth child. Five. She had raised 4 other children to adolescence. But for this one, on the way outside, she took a blanket and tucked it around the baby's head and face, nice and taut.
While riding a car with a baby in your lap is not the safest option for the baby, it will still work out fine most of the time. I'm 37 years old and have never been in a car accident.
What? I'm not even allowed to leave my hospital after I give birth unless I have a car seat. Regardless of my method of transportation they're not allowed to let me leave with my baby unless I have a car seat.
Hell, just throw the little fucker in a side car on the Harley. I'll take the turns easy on the way home after I stop for a tall boy and a pack of smokes.
Is this in the United States? We're not allowed to leave the hospital in my state without a nurse checking that you have a properly installed car seat. Which is amusing to me because my husband is a certified car seat technician and knows way more about it than the nurse.
w00t9lol ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 07:04:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not questioning you but "certified carseat technician" sounds made up xD
This sounds similar to a complaint my dad had when building his house. As an Electronic Engineer he is far more qualified to judge, but it is still a legal requirement for an Electrician to come check everything is working.
Honestly I think it's a good idea, 2 eyes better than one and all that.
Our hospital literally wont discharge your baby unless you take her out in a car seat. It extra ridiculous because I'm in NYC and most people dont even own cars...
[deleted] ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 21:13:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What. What the... Was she highly medicated? I don't... what?
It's not necessarily true that all women leave on meds that would impair functioning. Lots of women, myself included, leave on nothing but ibuprofen and stool softener. Obviously if you have a c-section, a major abdominal surgery, you're more likely to be on stronger painkillers.
There are multiple kinds of midwives, just like there are different kinds of nurses. Midwives also have different permissions in different countries. There are definitely some who can't prescribe, and some who can.
I had a c section in the UK and got paracetamol and ibuprofen as my pain killers. However you're not supposed to drive for 6 weeks afterwards and the first few day any car travel was total agony.
She was a vag. The most we give them is ibuprofen. Our sections usually get sent home with percocet, but that's not the only reason we tell them to refrain from driving
Emro08 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a vaginal birth with all 3 and the first two I left on hydrocodone. Tears up the labia and in the vaginal wall are no joke!
Jennasie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have had two sections. I left the hospital on Motrin. But it's more likely that you just had MAJOR ABDOMINAL SURGERY than the meds that they restrict driving and other things. I couldn't drive after my first section for almost 6 months because of the pain when pushing the petals. I cannot imagine attempting to drive after only a few weeks, even completely sober.
Trexy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I left on Percocet and ibuprofen. I had a C-section that got infected. I was not cleared to drive for well over six weeks, because I had to stay on the meds due to an open wound. Making a blanket "Oh she left therefore she is OK" is utter and complete bullshit. And that's why moms go home and husbands figure they can resume normal activities like vacuuming (which you are forbade to do with a section).
FaithCPR ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:51:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vacuuming? They gave me a list of many things I couldn't do after my cesarian, but vacuuming was not one of them. Unless it was a very heavy vaccum maybe?
I too had a vaginal delivery, with stitching on 2nd degree tears, and they gave me Tylenol with codedine for the additional pain. Honestly, I only took it for 2.5 days (still took the high dose of ibuprofen for a week), but I was still on the codeine when I left the hospital and wasn't allowed to drive.
No one ever offered to give me any for either of my two :( I wouldn't have minded. I had an epidural but still, it was quite tender for days afterwards !
Back in the day, they did recommend using mufflers on babies. There's a photo of one of my Grampy's sisters all bundled up in the snow with a big muffler on, you can barely see her eyes.
No, especially not a newborn. According to our pediatrician, the reason that using ceiling fans reduces the likelihood of SIDS is that newborns don't breathe hard enough to circulate the air around their noses and mouths, so they keep breathing and re-breathing the same air. Having the baby's face covered with a linen blanket could only make that worse.
And people got very upset, but all his kids are alive and kicking still. That stereotype that people treat each child a bit more laxly is kinda true ime.
I know this is gonna sound stupid, but I don't think I understand what she did wrong... it sounds like she was trying to keep the babies head warm? Don't babies lose a ton of body heat through their heads? By tucked do you mean WRAPPED? As in she tied it around the head tightly? Even so, I'm not entirely sure what she did wrong...
And for those of you concerned, since I'm sure whatever I'm missing is gonna start a lot of "Please tell me you don't have children"... no I do not.
You shouldn't tuck anything over the baby's face. That's where the baby breathes from. You can put a hat on the baby, but don't put a cloth directly on its face.
Why aren't these resources available where I live? Ugh. I'm low income and would LOVE free/low cost birth control but don't live in an area where that's possible.
What's the nearest city to you? You can pm me if you want. There are other services available such as Title X (ten) clinics that can provide low or no cost contraception. I work in one so have access to some good search tools that are not publicly available.
This reply really misses the point. Of course everyone should be responsible, but it is absurd when a wealthy country cannot mobilize the communal spirit to support collective action to provide basic medical care, such as contraception.
Also, people who give answers like yours seem to imagine that the extreme individualism they are promoting will lead to some kind of social Darwinist eugenic pay off. Quite the contrary, people fuck anyway, and poor people fuck like fuck. Your libertarian idealism has just created a world full of stupid poor people with infectious diseases and guns. Well done!
You'd probably find a better solution to this by telling them they have to put the condoms completely over their heads and not take them off no matter how sleepy they get.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:51:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Emergency contraception is anything that can be used after sex to prevent pregnancy. The morning after pill is the generic term for any pill that will do this, of which Plan B is one of the more commonly available brands. The Paragard (copper) IUD is the most effective emergency contraception, and can be used for up to 10-12 years of extremely effective pregnancy prevention after it is placed.
Thank you for clarifying. My OB-GYN suggested an IUD to me, then did my pelvic exam and said she would not administer it to me under any circumstance because I haven't had children and my cervix is at a weird angle and it would be too painful. :/ My best friend had one "installed" pre-children and was given narcotics for the pain and said she never needed them. Kinda upset that I can't get one. Maybe I need a second opinion...
I can go on quite a rant about this, I will do my best to contain myself.
Her claim that you have to have had a child before getting an IUD is incorrect. The Mirena, which is the most common hormonal IUD, is FDA approved only for women who have had children, but is commonly and safely used by women who have not had children. Basically it was a short cut Bayer took during the approval process to get it to the US market faster.
"Anatomic abnormalities" however, which is ambiguous, but generally means a uterus positioned or shaped in a way that an IUD would not fit, is an absolute contraindication to getting an IUD.
Regarding the pain during insertion: I did a meta-analysis on this, which I am hoping to get published soon, and have presented on. Basically nothing helps with the insertion pain short of getting an epidural or general anesthesia. Cytotec (misoprostol), ibuprofen, and lidocaine have no effect on pain during insertion and in the case of Cytotec, can significantly increase the pain, which I can go into more detail on if you're curious. Narcotics are not recommended at all. The pain can range significantly from barely noticeable to quite intense, but universally it subsides within 5-10 minutes. Ibuprofen or similar can help for the cramping that some women experience for the first ~2 weeks after placement.
Hope this helped and happy to answer any questions!
edit: tl;dr your ob/gyn is at least partly wrong. get a second opinion and/or tell her she's full of it and to check out the guidelines by the American Academy of Pediatrics and American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.
yosol ยท 10679 points ยท Posted at 18:24:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That having sex gets you pregnant. It was a 20+ year old woman that couldn't grasp the idea that sex leads to pregnancy. She thought that in order for a man and a woman to have children, they needed to be married first and then have a baby. That sex was just an act unrelated to it.
Then again, we are talking about a small rural community in the middle of fucking-nowhere, Mexico.
EDIT: My highest rated comment. Awesome, thank you. Also, it's amazing how common this misconception is all around the world.
I worked with a woman (27) who claimed she was a nurse before. She thought HIV magically manifested if blood was involved in sex. I made a joke about having sex while on my period and she was genuinely concerned about HIV. I explained one of the two would have to be infected for that to be an issue. I ended with telling her to google it.
yosol ยท 2006 points ยท Posted at 20:24:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me see if I understood. 2 non-infected people + blood during sex = HIV infection?
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sephresx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I expected the down votes. Thanks for the sympathy though.
sephresx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:59:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on mobile. Constantly refreshing the screen changes the amount of down votes I get. Sometimes it hits -30, at times it goes as high as -24. Back and forth.
Nah man that's now how comment score is displayed. It does that for nearly all my comments (even if they haven't been seen by anyone yet, i.e. They are 2 min old).
Also RHCP is the bomb diggity yo
sephresx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww damn. Lol just when I had some hope.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sephresx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just glanced at your comment while scrolling.... didnโt really register that I heard it in Anthony Kiedisโ voice until a moment later. Brains are weird.
This is extremely trivial and I'm wasting people's time who are reading this but HIV = Human immunodeficiency virus, so if you say HIV virus it's kind of repetitive.
I think we take for granted our understanding of the germ theory of disease. For pretty much all of human history, and apparently in rural communities all over the world today, it is not universally known.
JuRoJa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in second grade my school did a presentation on HIV/AIDS in each classroom. Being 7 they didn't really go into the details of how most people got sick (sex or sharing needles for example. All they said was if you come in contact with someone's blood, it's possible to get aids and that it kills you.
I shit you not, 3 days beforehand this little attention whore kid claimed to have cut himself. We all called bullshit and said it was ketchup, I tested wether or not it was by tasting it. He had in fact cut himself. I was terrified for a week before I just kind of forgot about it until we had sex ed.
Caiur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the prevailing theory among my fellow students and I in primary school - that just touching someone else's (non-infected) blood results in HIV infection. Also the result of teachers being vague about the transmission methods.
It seems very silly to teach kids about HIV/AIDS at an age when you're unwilling to go into details with them about sex and needle sharing. Surely it can wait until then.
It was the 90s, and we heard about AIDS quite a bit. They would mention "sexual contact", but interestingly I had utterly no interest in that at the time, and would in fact be quite the late bloomer. I wondered why anyone would bother to do a thing like that...
serfrock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah-- two HIV negatives make a positive, of course.
Let me see if I understood. 2 non-infected people + blood during sex = HIV infection?
You've never had to deal with slower people, have you. Never met a slightly less sharp tool in the shed?
This kind of half-way "understanding" is typical for some people. Things weren't explained to them on their level, so they obviously didn't get everything. Instead of asking, they attempted to fill the gaps with reasoning.
That's what you get when slower people use reason.
vatsan16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a lot of misconceptions about sex it stems from a biblical thing. Before the modern tampon and feminine hygiene being on ones period was seen as "unclean." In a lot of places they hear that HIV/AIDS is transmitted through the blood, so they assume blood and doing "unclean" acts means that they get it. I worked with a few women and men from Africa and the women would refuse to work around anyone or in contact with anyone not a woman for fear of something around them being tainted by coming into contact with them during their period. Not even them getting period blood on something but that their presence would make things forever tainted.
Treczoks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I taught many Saudis and had a couple men tell me that if a woman has sex with multiple men in her life, she can get AIDS. No word about men getting it at all, only women with many partners. After much questioning, come to find out that they literally think the woman just "gets" AIDS from having multiple partners; none of the men needs to be infected for this to happen.
It doesn't make no sense. There's tons of bacteria and stuff that are beneficial to you but if they go to the wrong place in your body, they will fuck shit up. But she probably didn't understand that HIV was a virus.
Cwmcwm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other words: Blood sugar, Sex, Magik.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well hey, this isn't all that strange to think if you're completely uneducated. Centuries ago we didn't know of the existence of microorganisms or viruses, let alone understand how they manifested themselves. And not just your regular average person, we're talking about every 'scientist' on the planet at the time.
If you're completely uneducated by outside sources, what are the chances you are some kind of mega genius who understands this concept long unknown to the entirety of mankind?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've talked to people that thought intravenous drug use (without sharing needles) would spontaneously give you HIV. Just you by yourself injecting a drug and wham! you've got HIV.
Interesting this comes up. In 1980 when I was in high school we didn't even have a clue AIDS/HIV was on the horizon. In 1982 AIDs was on the news, but no one had a clue what caused it. Some suggested it was caused by reactions to semen being directly introduced into the bloodstream (homosexual intercourse) so you could have two non infected individuals that could generate AIDS. As far as we knew if you didn't have sex with gay people, you were golden (except for every other STD under the sun). It wasn't until a year or two later it was actually found to be a blood borne virus anyone could transmit, and then everything changed. By 1986 it was a different world.
yatsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even need two people, when you think about it.
I guess I can see why someone may think that. Non-pregnant woman + non-pregnant man + semen = baby. So... I can see how a miseducated person could come to that conclusion.
Oh I love people who claim to be medical professionals. Sure your husband is a doctor. Maybe a doctor of English literature, because you two sure as shit have no idea what's going on here.
My friend Ross studied paleontology in college, got a PhD and now calls himself a doctor. We all laugh at him though, he still has toy dinosaurs for crying out loud.
That's it, it was in one of the early episodes of Firefly. Thank you kind sir!
ascends
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Remasa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist here, can confirm. I can count on one hand the number of times I've been called "doctor".
Syfildin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:39:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a Friend's reference? I mean he us a doctor, and has a high level of education. I dunno it feels wierd to laugh at the fact that he enjoys what he does.
Sam-Gunn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:51:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, his neurotic behavior is why we laugh.
Syfildin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, makes sense. I dunno why I thought it was a friend's reference, I've never even seen that show
Sam-Gunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, Ross's humor comes in how seriously he takes geology, his neuroses, he sometimes acts like the "straight man" of the group when other people in the group are joking with him, etc.
Thats the biggest coincidence, I think ive heard about this Ross guy. When I was backpacking in Eastern Europe, there was this guy called Ken Adams and he told me that exact story!
Pumcy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is a doctor.
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I have a neighbour who claimed she'd been a nurse. There was a car vs motorcycle crash out the front and she flipped the fuck out and was running around shrieking. She was about to yank the unconcious motorcycle riders helmet off until everybody else told her to stop, shut up and go away because he could have a neck injury. We could see he was breathing well and hadn't filled the helmet with vomit, so removing it was an unnecessary risk.
To be fair, she could very well have been a nurse, but perhaps a nurse who wasn't accustomed to that sort of situation. I'm an RN and my experience is primarily limited to general medicine, oncology, cardiology, and some critical care (I work in a step-down unit, so not a full ICU that takes on ventilators and stuff like that). If you sent me to a trauma, I wouldn't be sure what to do, either, and would feel quite anxious. Someone having a baby? Wouldn't have a clue, either.
Nurses work in a variety of roles, including some who have never worked in a hospital or in acute situations. Examples of settings they could work in: long-term care (like nursing homes), research, education, community nursing, and public health.
Technically, the medical professional would not be a Doctor, but someone holding a Doctorate in English would be a Doctor. The medical professional was originally a 'physician', and took the title of Doctor as it was, at the time, considered the much more prestigious title.
I know this because I have a degree in English literature.
I've also seen very good medical doctors be so absurdly specialized that they can diagnose cancer from a mile away, but would look like deer in headlights when presented with a common cold or a broken arm
I've noticed "nurses" tend to be the worst offenders in these situations. I've seen several people giving awful medical advice (I'm a grad student in biomedical engineering, so while I'm not an expert in everything medical I know enough to spot when something is pretty badly inaccurate) and they usually claim to be nurses, rather than go the full mile and pretend to be a physician or surgeon (their comments, btw, are very often upvoted by people who don't know any better; so watch out and check what you read). I almost wonder if it's something personal that makes them identify as a nurse, or if they just think people are less likely to call them out or try to verify if they're a medical doctor.
crono09 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:29:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine in college thought that anytime two men had sex, one of them could magically contract HIV. She didn't understand that one of them had to be already infected in order to give it to the other. This could be put off as ordinary ignorance except that she was a junior biology major and should have had enough classes by then to know how viruses spread.
This is part of why it's not called GRID (Gay-related immune deficiency) anymore.
WhimsyUU ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a surprising amount of people who still think this about gay men. They think that gay men can get HIV from each other's bodily fluids even if neither of them have it. They're under the impression that only gay men have anal sex and that anal sex creates HIV.
Not really surprising. I'm sure people used this as ammo to hate on LGBQ people.
"Don't even go near a gay, Jimmy! You could get AIDS just from them breathin on ya!"
DCromo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's actually fascinating. if she did take to and understood the advice to google it. like googling it is its own magical explainer of things.
also, are you an ob/gyn? and why do you guys always have the oddest sense of humor? not that there's anything wrong with doing that but making a joke of it...whyyyy?
I am not an obgyn. I am an optician. Basically a pharmacy tech for glasses but I can't kill you but I do have to decipher your prescription and explain everything to you, help you pick out glasses that work, help you choose through lens options because the same lens does not work as well for every rx.
DCromo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well you have an awesome sense of humor.
i feel like my optician is never that helpful and just tied to sell me on what gives them the most commission. if they're even actually trained opticians and not jsut hired sales in lab coats.
anyway, pretty funny. and glasses that don't fit will kill you from the regular headaches and constant pushing up your nose you need to do :P.
Ah yeah I don't make commission at my job. I also don't get paid as much as I'm worth but I'll have maternity leave in five months so I'm stuck.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend when I was about ten who, when I accidentally scratched myself and started bleeding, told me to stay away from her because she might get AIDS.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you said "worked" did you mean "I worked at an outpatient facility, and we had this patient who"?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing the amount of boys who think you can only get aids if you have sex with a girl while she's on her period and the rest of the time you are safe.
My girlfriend in high school thought the same thing but without the blood part. She was genuinely concerned that one of us could contract an STD through intercourse, even though neither of us had one to begin with.
That sounds like the gay community some of them genuinely think that if you blow a load in another guys ass that both of them will magically get aids.
greatm31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I was pretty convinced of the same thing when I was in middle school. Everyone kept warning about how sex would lead to AIDS that I guessed I missed the part about how at least one of them has to be infected for it to happen!
Also I remember thinking there were two levels of HIV infection, "negative" and "positive". I think I saw some health video where they were like "just because you're negative doesn't mean you're in the clear!"
In her defense, I was taught that exact thing in my 7th grade health class. It wasn't until about 6 months later after freaking the fuck out about touching my sisters cut hand that I was taught how you ACTUALLY get HIV.
It was a joke. Of course most bondage doesn't draw blood. Maybe some minor scrapes, but plenty of couples don't even do that
umaijcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dated a girl who was an optometrist (degreed, prescription writing, US Doctor) in her early 30s. I do not remember how it came up, but she thought men had a special tube for urine, separate from the one for cum. No, I told her. One tube. the urethra handles both.
This was funny because we had dated a few weeks, but at that instant we both lost all interest in sex. She because she was so grossed out by the fact that my penis also touched urine, and me because I could not believe I was dating an idiot.
After a couple more encounters where she examined my penis very carefully trying to wrap her head around it all, (unfortunately, not literally) we broke up.
That reminds me a co-worker I used to have thought AIDS manifested from anal sex.
He found out I engage in anal sex and asked me if I was worried about aids. And I eventually figured out that he thought that anal sex CAUSED aids. This man was in his late 40s.
A friend of a friend on Facebook said that the reason gay men have a higher risk of HIV is because of butt sex. He was convinced that butt sex caused HIV even if neither of the people having sex actually had HIV.
Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a very smart guy who once told me it wasnt until college when he figured out the whole TRANSMITTED part of STDs, that theyre not some spontaneous autoimmune condition that sometimes happens when you have sex. Way to go sex ed!
That actually sounds like she might have been listening to some far right, evangelical sermons. A lot of far right preachers really stress the idea that homosexual sex is dangerous (involves blood play) and that that is why AIDS is rampant (I know it's not) among homosexuals, and people who are sexually perverted. To the extent that they never mention the virus. Evangelicals who took this message to Uganda and influenced legislation there are all about this.
Reminds me of something I saw iv drug users concerned about on the internet. A guy was asking how to best prevent himself getting hepatitis c and believed you get hep c from old blood and that if you left your own old blood in a syringe then used that syringe again you could give yourself hep c from your own blood.
LeiLeiVB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex thought this. He would be so worried if I had my period and we badoinked. I had to explain it to him. I stayed with him too long >_<
I have distinct memories of middle school, when we were being fed some propaganda about abstinence, the health teacher said something toeing the line of "if you have sex, you WILL contract an irreversible disease." quiet little logical and confused me raised my hand.
"what if both people don't have a disease?"
We then had an extended back-and-forth where I tried to get an answer, he refused to confirm the logic of how diseases spread, and ultimately most of the class by the end had caught on that we weren't being informed honestly.
Meanwhile, I just needed to know if my understanding of how diseases spread was wrong or something.
We told my 5 year old that daddy gave mommy a seed and put it in her belly. He insists we got the wrong seed for his little brother that we should have a baby girl. Even offered to find a seed for me.
The English for "seed" is occasionally used that way, too. It's pretty archaic, though. Pretty much only turns up in bibles and fantasy novels these days. Probably only in older translations of the bible, at that.
They'd know, but they'd probably think you were a little weird for saying it. Just because something is archaic doesn't mean its meaning isn't understood.
Pretty much. Written erotica in general uses weird euphemisms that you don't see much elsewhere. Things like referring to a woman's vagina as "her sex." I'd imagine it's even worse when it's written by amateurs. I guess up to a point it makes sense, when writing you usually don't want to use the same word over and over if you can avoid it.
I always used to believe that, to get the baby out, you just unbuttoned the belly button and plucked it out. Why else would it be called a button if it didn't open things?
cl4ire_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sex education: C-
Logic and critical thinking: A+
[deleted] ยท 1014 points ยท Posted at 21:25:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my grandpa when I was a kid and he told me that the semen from the penis goes into the vagina or something of the sort, but he never mentioned sex, so I always thought that the semen came out of the penis on its own and then walked on the floor and found its way in the vagina.
Whizzzel ยท 469 points ยท Posted at 22:12:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would lead to some awkward dinner parties. "Uh Greg, you want to get a towel or something?"
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:28:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:21:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar to what I was told...
I used to read a lot as a kid, and found out the whole "sperm+egg = baby" business myself, but not how the sperm gets there in the first place. Was just told "it swims there" and left it at that.
This was roughly my understanding. I thought that sleeping together meant just that: a man and a woman sleep in the same bed. At some point during the night, the pee comes out of the penis and is absorbed by the vagina. This is how I rationalised wetting the bed too.
Same here, except I figured that you had to sleep next to someone of the opposite sex. Sleep and close proximity = baby. But only if you aren't related. Because it knows the difference apparently.
yeah i thought the male and female get naked and side on opposite sides of a room, and then the male shot at the female and it magically went into her vag :\
I think when I found out about sex, I thought the guy just put it in and then it would go in and out by itself, without any work from either partner--like a hydraulic lift or something.
I got a very through sex education from my mother over the course of several conversations. When she asked me if I knew how penises "worked" I said yes because I hoped to speed along an embarrassing conversation. So I thought penises only got hard once a month. Women have periods once a month so that's how it must be for men too.
77ate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ALIEN: Covenant plot spoiler!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents told me the same thing but with Sperm and Eggs. They didn't clarify what they were so I imagined two colored orbs with faces walking around until they found each other then going into the womb.
When I was a little kid and my mom was pregnant with my sister my dad told me she ate a watermelon seed and had a watermelon growing in her stomach
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not related to babies, but when I was little, my mom told me that if I ate the black seeds, I would grow a watermelon in my stomach. I accidentally ate one once and thought I was gonna straight up die.
I used to think the number of kids you could have was determined by your testicles. I thought a man and woman would simply be sleeping one night and one of your balls would magically get out and enter the woman and bam, she be preggers. My neighbor had 4 kids so I guess I assumed he had 4 balls when he was younger and none now that he was older?
Cypraea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:51:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought, for whatever reason, that you got yourself pregnant by eating a certain particular variety of sandwich that was unlikely to be chosen for enjoyability. Something like peanut-butter-tuna-with-pickles, on a certain kind of bread.
Like, the real-life equivalent of those videogame cheat codes where you have Lara Croft turn different ways and take her guns out and jump and you level skip or get all the weapons, this was the way of summoning a pregnancy.
I was convinced that there was a baby in my belly button that would grow as I grew and it would be born once I was old enough. I was about 6 or 7 at this point. As the youngest child, I'd never had the opportunity to ask how babies are made. Thank goodness school taught me that.
JasonDJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just cause youre dad said your mom should've swallowed you.
When I was little, my mom got pregnant with my little sister. She explained to me that the baby was growing in her tummy, and when it was time for the baby to be born she had to go to the hospital to get it taken out. So of course 3-year-old me was convinced that my mom had an operation where they unscrewed her head, took the baby out, and put her head back on.
I'm assuming your father beat you with jumper cables?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was 11 or 12 I thought two people only had to sleep on the same bed one night (but exclusively on a single bed at a resort or hotel) to have a baby XD my guy cuz' who was the same age as me told me about the two people sleeping together. I literally took it to mean sleep as in snore snore together. AHHH I was sooo naive xD
Edit:parents never told us anything even up till now. Well I am asian ahahhaha.
I thought that 2 people would lay in a bed in their underwear, and the woman would get pregnant. I also thought that the big belly was like a swimming pool, with the baby swimming around inside to build up muscle, and once it built up enough muscle it would be strong enough to leave.
In my developmental psychology course, we talked about how among many cultures kids will usually assume something had to be "swallowed" in order for there to be a baby. I always thought it was just a cute thing or that parents fed their kids a story similar to that, but hey... you can see where they'd get that idea!
When I was little, I thought my testicles were my babies that I'd somehow plant in my future wife. Since I was six years old, I knew i'd end up with two kids.
When I was a kid I saw my mom take her birth control pill. I asked her what it was because I was curious. Her response (said in a clipped and defensive tone) was, "Well, if I don't want to have babies every year I need to take this pill". So I thought women automatically had babies every year unless they took medicine and then I worried at what age that would magically start happening to me.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that a baby just ripped it out of the mother's stomach Alien style.
I mean, I had a somewhat similar way of thinking because both my brother and I were c-section babies (we both tried to hang ourselves with the umbilical cord).
Oh lord. Over thanksgiving my dad was telling a story about my oldest brother asking where babies come from. So not only does my dad use the word "seed" in his description (ew, dad), but immediately follows it with the innocent question my brother asked: "how does it go to her belly? does the mommy swallow the daddy's seed?"
Oh, I'm the same way. Dad has properly instilled that on me.
Dustystt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I told my kids that moms and dads go to a seed store and pick a special seed that will grow the boy or girl you want. Then the dad puts the seed in the moms belly button and when it's time for the baby to come mom poops it out lol. They were 3&4 and I'm not ready to tell the truth yet. My 9 year old knows the truth.
nutseed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just wondering why age means they're not ready to learn about biology?
Dustystt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told at 6 the whole how babies are made. It seriously messed me up and my younger brother too. I feel like a child should get to be a child before learning that information. I think pre puberty (9 or up) is a better time to receive this information.
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
interesting, i wonder if it was how your were told? like it was awkward or something? i was told earlier than i can remember (folks honestly answered all my questions, even about violence and drugs and stuff) ..messed me up just right
Dustystt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom bought a book called "So That's How I Was Born". It was weird at the time to us we were 4&6. We became little perverts after that. Everything was a sex joke or our dolls would have sex, I remember our friends and cousins thought we were strange for it. We became sexually active young me at 13 him around the same age maybe younger. I don't think it was my mom's fault, maybe we were just odd children.
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that girls came preprogrammed with babies inside them. Basically just remaining dormant until it was time for them to hatch from my girly bits.
What? I remembered hearing something about an egg so that's when the 'hatch' part got added.
Haha reminds me of my own young beliefs. When I was little, people used to refer to married couples planning on having a baby as "placing an order" for it (closest translation from Spanish). So I obviously thought (because I was brought up as a Catholic) that once married there was a special magical prayer you were given by the priest that you had to say together to "order" your baby from God.
bnhjug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think they took something from the mom and something from the dad and mixed everything together in a vat. Then later, you'd go to this big water tower looking thing full of half formed babies and a hydraulic tube type thing would come out, latch onto the mom's bellybutton, and propel the corresponding not quite baby into her belly.
I saw my mom taking these pills from a bottle with a baby on it (probably prenatal vitamins) and then she had my younger brother. I thought for the longest time that you just had to take those pills for 9 months and then you got a baby. I mentioned to my dad when my mom was pregnant with my youngest brother and he decided to have "the talk" with us older 3 kids that night. 4th grade me was horrified.
Reasonable assumption. A lot of girls do eat the baby seed.
Jazigrrl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents told me babies came from sex which is when a man puts his penis in a woman's vagina and tadpoles shootout and meet an egg inside the woman and combine into a baby.
I didn't know females had vaginas until 6th grade 2006. Just thought they pissed and shit and had babies through their assholes. Mobb Deep produced a soundtrack for a movie called Waist Deep staring Tyrese Gibson, Megan Good, The Game, the cast was stacked! I downloaded Waist Deep from Limewire and this movie turned out to be a POV porn. When I saw that monkey for the first time I thought, "GOOD GOD. That thing is eating his penis."
I've been told that my grandmother, when she had her first child, asked the midwife what part of her body the baby came from.
Apparently it was a medical fad back then to put a person under general anesthetic heavy sedative when they're giving birth, a person will continue to give birth even if they're unconscious. So because she was unconscious, she didn't get to see the baby being born and had been worrying throughout her entire pregnancy how the baby was going to get out.
That was how little awareness she had, it wasn't really her fault, but she had absolutley no understanding of how sex works.
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I've heard her talk about this a couple of times and she's said "people just didn't talk about dirty stuff back then, and that's not a good thing"
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Now, my dad has a different story.
He grew up on a farm, how babies are made is really common stuff when breeding animals.
Not general anesthesia, that would have resulted in a lot of dead and floppy babies. They did what was called Twilight Sedation which is where they give you enough benzo's/barbiturates that you are basically in a black out. You are conscious and can participate but you will remember nothing.
When babies come out their heads are all fucked up and they are covered in blood, wierd yellow slimy stuff called vernix, and frequently their own shit. They also look like wierd space aliens with heads that are way too big for their bodies and really long torsos compared to their arms and legs. After a day of Labor, both parents usually zonk out while the nurses clean the baby up. I bet they could swap 90% of those babies and nobody would be the wiser, regardless of how conscious you were during delivery.
In my hospital they typically send the father or a grandparent with the baby to NICU. My son was a C-Section baby. After he was born my husband went with our son to NICU while they stitched me up and sent me to recovery.
After they cleaned my daughter up they brought her to the nursery so my midwife could sew up my tear, and you bet your ass my dad followed my daughter and the nurse all the way to the nursery.
If anyone took my kids to clean them or whatever, I would have lost it. Each came right to my chest. Third one had to have suction from nicu staff , and even then they only took him 10 feet away in the same room. Was I exhausted? Yup. Was hubs exhausted? Hell ya. Would either of us let that baby leave the room without one of us? Not a chance, there would be broken nurses/doctors.
I just said "go with him!" to my husband when they took my son to be checked when he was born. The baby never even really left the room, but I couldn't see him, so I did lose it when they took him away.
kjata ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:39:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
vernier
Isn't that also a French surname? Dang. That's unlucky.
My mom has a completely random middle name since they let my grandma name her while she was still loopy. My grandpa was at home with their 2 older kids, so no one was there to stop her.
It's not a bad middle name or anything. A bit unisex though and not what her middle name was intended to be.
wyvernwy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother had it too and made the same joke! Apparently it was also common back then for the husband to not be in the delivery room, so just the unconsciousish mother, hospital staff, and eventual baby.
Same with my grandmother, she just woke up with a baby. When I was born she skies me through the hospital line a hark to insure I want swapped.
Bunlapin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There were numerous cases in Spain, decades ago, of nuns stealing babies as they were born. They then would report to the parents that the baby died, while giving the baby into "adoption" to rich people who would pay. As those babies grew, things started to come to light.
Actually they used a mixture of morphine and scopolamine. You felt all the pain (no natural childbirth) but supposedly you had retroactive-memory loss of the experience. I say supposedly because that is what they used for my first delivery. I have nightmare memories of screaming while pushing. Awful, barbaric experience. Google says it was no longer used in the 1960's but I had my baby in the mid-1970's. Yeah, aging myself here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But morphine is a painkiller?
Monimoe ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:45:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is twilight sedation still used? 18 years ago I had a planned pregnancy, but in a routine ultrasound they found out the fetus had no heartbeat. I had a D&C that day and woke up with a pile of wet tissues in my hand. A nurse told me I sobbed through the whole thing, and that I relayed to everyone there my entire infertility struggle.
I was appreciative that never felt any pain, but I was mortified...and worried for years that the memory would "come back."
I've seen it used for knee arthroscopy. Muscle disease with dysphagia and aspiration was a factor there. Had to intubate regardless so went with a really deep twilight.
Day 1: I'm in the chair, they inject me with something and (if I recall correctly) also give me gas.
Day 2: Roughly 24 hours later I "wake up" which is to say I start having memories again. That entire day is just gone, which is kinda mind blowing to me. Apparently I was conscious the entire procedure. My dad drove me home.
LolaZe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf did they give you!? I was out for 45 min for mine and totally awake 5 min after the procedure was done. Was walking around, texting friends, and no memory loss except the actual procedure.
This was my experience! But I don't think they gave me anything unusual--I probably fainted. I vaguely remembered walking to the car and then I woke up in bed at home the next day.
maquila ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where the fuck was that when I was giving birth? Jesus, I would have done a lot of things I wouldn't be proud of for that type of sedation...
Just kidding, I had twilight sedation when I got my wisdom teeth out, but they wouldn't give me anything (including Tylenol) until I started heaving with every contraction.
That can't be right - they had to put my wife under general to have our son because of an issue where she couldn't get and epidural and had to have a c-section. He came out just fine. This was in 2015 btw.
The General Anesthesia gets to the baby and can cause them to be born floppy. It can make it take longer for them to take their first gasp which can be dangerous when seconds = brain cells. I have been at c-section where the mom has to go under general for one reason or the other. The OB/GYN does the procedure much faster and their is almost always a pediatrician present for a resuscitation. Vaginal birth takes too long. The general anesthesia would most likely kill the baby.
OB's go into beast mode as soon as the general anesthesia takes effect. They can get from skin to baby out in seconds when they need to.
LolaZe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With general they have 90 seconds after it's administered to cut the cord before it impacts the baby. Friend had to go under general for her c-section and this is the info we were told pre surgery.
Ever watched the documentary The Business of Being Born? It briefly mentions twilight sedation and that shits crazy. They strap the women down with wool so that it doesn't leave marks on the skin in order to not raise any suspicion but the women are conscious and screaming and thrashing around during birth but you wake up not remembering any of it.
My mom had my older sister and brother in 1968 and 1970 respectively. She had Twilight sedation with both deliveries and could not remember anything about either of them. All she remembered was being handed her newborns at the end.
Do doctors still do that? I was put under twilight sedation for my last surgery. I don't remember any of it and My doctor said I was nice and calm waking up. The last thing I remember was being wheeled into a room and asking "why the fuck are there so many people?" If I was still "there" but unable to remember it, is there a chance I just kept talking? I like to talk.
Oh it wasn't a traumatizing relationship, and in fact I think that's what my grandma is getting at when she talks about it - back then it was entirely normal for a woman to learn how babies are made after one has been made.
And not in some deliberate manner, but because it was just dirty to talk about sex back then.
Eh, guess I'm not exactly the right person to ask about it, but I think there's some sentiment that this denies a person one of the most basic and universal human experiences of childbirth. Perhaps something wrong with making the most human thing there could be into something artificial.
Philosophical reasons aside, it isn't safe for the mother or the baby.
meglet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queen Victoria gave birth knocked out on chloroform.
My Grandmother was given ETHER during her first childbirth in the late 1940's in Oregon. She was also prescribed weight loss pills during her fifth pregnancy in the mid 1950's. It was essentially meth.
My grandmother was like that too. I was told she only found out where babies come from when she was pregnant with her first child. People just didn't talk about it back then, and my grandmother didn't really have a healthy childhood so that didn't help either.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Used to be called "twilight birth."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A person definitely does not continue to give birth while they are unconscious. Did you think the fetus punched its way out of the cervix and vagina?
yeah same, my mom had NO IDEA where the baby will get out, she thought she would throw it up or something, her parents were really strict and never even mentioned it. My dad on the other hand...well, his mom was really trashy so I imagine he saw it from an early age. :\
This reminds me of one of them bathroom fact books, where a rural couple were having a hard time conceiving a child, and after several visits, the GP realized they were having anal sex..........once they educated the couple, they were able to have a child.....
Haha, I read a similar one where they thought the penis went in the belly button...
ChrysW ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 23:21:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard about this irl. Girl was a nursing student and had to get a physical and blood work before going into clinical work. She turns up pregnant and told the program people it was a mistake because "he never touched my belly button." Nursing teachers had to give her The Talk. I'm hoping she didn't make it through the program unless she proved herself worthy because wow...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where was this?
ChrysW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Georgia is all I can give you now that I work here too. I was young then but I'm going to say maybe 10 years ago now? My mom would remember better since she was the program's secretary handling the paperwork for the tests and was probably there when this happened.
My mom has horses and they definitely don't know how right away. Lots of humping the side of the leg and whatnot. And by side of the leg, I mean they're perpendicular to the other horse.
Tzipity ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:43:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch some zebras at the zoo getting frisky in the rain. Witnessed the perpendicular thing you mention. Then the male zebra decided to give it another go, mounted another male. No babies were made in the zebra exhibit that day. Or any other.
Or the one where the husband's tiny penis had been pentrating his wife's urethra for several decades until she finally went to the doctors in her 80s and discovered she's still a virgin.
This just has to be a made up story. It's hard enough to find the urethra to put in a foley, let alone shove a dick in there. Besides, when you're lining everything up I find it highly unlikely that the dick wouldn't just slip into the obviously much bigger and more forgiving opening.
Certain congenital malformations (such as Mรผllerian agenesis) result in there not being a vaginal opening, combine that with poor sex education and persistence, and this happens. 26 documented cases of people unknowingly engaging in urethral intercourse as of 2014, according to wiki.
Hmmm, interesting. Thank you for the information! I will amend my statement then. I am willing to bet that the version most people have heard is not true, because it usually ends with the couple happily going on to have normal sex and successfully making babies.
Or the couple that weren't having sex at all. They just thought you had to be married and sleep in the same bed.
Sam-Gunn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that was a dumb blonde joke...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
read 1 where they were using the urethra
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard from one of my teachers in high school about an old couple that had been having sex through the woman's urethra for their entire 40+ year relationship. They just thought it was supposed to hurt the first few times, and that she was infertile.
My brother was a medic for the Army in Afghanistan, and they had a clinic where the locals could come in for basic medicine. A couple came in unable to conceive. Husband really wanted kids, and being rural Afghanistan, it was clearly the wife's fault. She had evidence of severe beatings over the years of marriage; multiple broken ribs, multiple broken bones, broken nose, permanent bruising around the eyes, obviously because she refused to procreate. A quick gyno exam revealed intact hymen, then a rundown of marital coitus revealed years of anal sex. After a brief sex-ed primer, the husband, through the interpreter, said "but that's where the pee comes out!" with a disgusted look on his face. My brother never saw them again.
That makes me so sad. I bet the poor woman didn't get so much as an apology for those beatings. Hopefully he didn't take his subsequent embarrassment out on her as well.
And, of course, he's still wrong. Women don't urinate through their vagina
Even leaving aside the fact that pee doesn't come out of the vagina.... Pee does come out of the penis. I just... jesus.
yosol ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 20:25:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my years of experience, I have never heard anything similar to that story. This made me laugh, hard. Thank you for starting my Monday off with a laugh.
Btsyd97 ยท 176 points ยท Posted at 22:32:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worse, a Chinese couple weren't getting pregnant after 7 years of marriage so their concerned parents sent them to a doctor and it turns out the wife was still a virgin. They were just hugging each other to sleep (how magical). The doctor prescribed them porn.
I read an account years back in a sex ed book from the fifties where the couple had managed to use the wife's urethra instead of the actual vagina for sex. Evidently it hurt at first, but it stretched enough. After some instruction, they were able to have a kid.
This reminds me of a news story a few years ago where they were accidentally having sex in here urethra for the entirety of their marriage at least like ten years. They only found out when they went to a fertility doctor and they looked at the woman. "Yeah your urethra is stretched to an ungodly point." Oops.
Sam-Gunn ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:52:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It burns and I keep getting all these yeast infections..."
I mean, either her husband was one of the smallest people in the world, or that poor poor woman....
You're not the first to point out, (i'm old I guess) some even stated they read it as someone being"out of breath", and why do I not use commas instead. Best way to describe it, I'm typing how it's flowing to my fingers, if I am using time to collect a thought, I tend to hit the "." , while I type. :( It can also work as a dramatic pause? Call it a signature?
My grandmother told me of someone she met that once they got married they could not conceive a child for 5 years, turns out that the male had not even touched the female since she was still a virgin.
This reminds me of the doctor who figured out that the elderly woman with a UTI had been having sex through her urethra all her life, which is why she constantly had UTI's and never had children.
I can't find it right now, but I heard about a Dr that has an elderly couple that never was able to conceive. She also had a history of bladder infections and UTIs. Come to find out, after a thorough screening, which apparently had never been done correctly, they were having sex - in her urethra! She was still technically a virgin bc she had an intact hymen. My guess is she never used tampons.
I heard a similar one where the man was penetrating her urethra instead of her vagina. Neither knew that a woman has two holes in the front. Because of that sex was always painful for her and she had UTIs her whole life.
My ex-husband and I lost our virginity together. The asshole once accused me of having had an abortion because 'of that line on your vagina'. He was referring to the top of my clitoris.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:50:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't. Every fucking time I told him about what a clot was and where it was and how it worked, he refused to listen and I would have to tell him again and again and again. The few times he actually touched me in the beginning, he was always off to the side. Like in my leg crease. I would sometimes gently guide his hand to the right place but... He always drifted back to the wrong spot. Tore my skin a lot doing that. Then stopped touching me altogether.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was a fucking moron, that's why. He completely didn't give a shit about me one iota. He still wanted to have sex occasionally but only when I was asleep and completely closed and he would jam himself into me painfully and tore me open. I was so starved for sex I never said no but he knew it was the only time I wasn't ready or in the mood, so that's when he chose, because it was the closest he could get to forcing me. I would beg him for it and he would refuse, and then make me in the middle of my much needed sleep. He was a narcissistic sociopath who beat me and verbally abused me nonstop. The last time he got me off was in February of 2009. We were together for another 3 ยฝ years before I left his hole.
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm truly sorry this happened to you. Guy is scum of the earth from all you've said. I'm glad you're now free of him.
OMG this just reminded me - back when I was in high school (mid-late 90s) someone asked this during the sex education portion of the Parenting class i took..."If you have sex with a girl who is pregnant, will you, like, poke the baby's head?". And he wasn't being a smart ass either, it was a genuine question. It was kind of sad, the rest of the class laughed at him, but I just felt bad that he truly didn't know.
nutseed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not an unreasonable question at all
Toezap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone asked that in my little sister's class too, only they asked if it would "puncture" the baby. lol
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it was pronounced just the way it's spelled. Though wee is kinda how oui is pronounced I uh.. guess.
kjata ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:40:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been pronouncing it "wee jah" too, but I hear "weegee" a lot. I don't know what it is about some words that just plain shuts down people's ability to process phonetic pronunciation, but that seems to be one of them.
Youtube has a young audience and an international audience. Obviously there are going to be a lot of kids who don't have English as a first language and in my opinion they shouldn't be mocked for it. I mean sure there's probably a couple of dumb English speakers with bad spelling in there too but you can't know for sure.
Let's be fair, English spelling doesn't make a lot of sense.
Have you seen YouTube's comments? It's not like they're spelling words phonetically. The comments are riddled with incomprehensible errors that make me wonder how their fingers even ended up on those keys, and most of them are from Americans or other English speaking nations! And it's not just the grammar, it's also the content. Half of all YouTube comments are bashing any given minority and the other half are "like this if yoeur wachting in 20XX." It's just baffling to me.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BICHES
MikoSqz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Texas that is abstinence only. Then they wonder why there was a hug STD out break at one of the high schools and Texas Tech is known for having a unique strain of a certain STD.
This girl I used to babysit got pregnant when she started college, but didn't know she was pregnant until 30 minutes before the baby came. She came from a pretty strict, religious household and went to private school
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was she rather large? A 9 month pregnancy would make her gut massive.
The only sex education I receive in my public high school in Oklahoma was a PowerPoint presentation on STDs/STIs. After showing 20 pictures of mangled dicks dripping with weird liquids and wart covered vaginas it ended with a slide that said "how do you prevent these diseases? ABSTINENCE" like yeah, abstinence is 100% effective at avoiding STDs but you just showed a bunch of children pictures of fucked up genitalia and it's against to school policy to even mention condoms??
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:14:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rule-30 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sad upvote, my parent's plan was to wait to give me "the talk" when I got married. They also didn't warn me I'd start bleeding from my vagina once every month, I had to ask my best friend's mom about it.
I never got the talk from my mother . She had a subscription to a parenting and pregnancy magazine that (at the time , not sure if that's still the case ) had pretty graphic pictures of women giving birth , a Q and A section and a child development at different ages part . I learnt to read with these magazines . I guess my mother figured I could handle colour picture of babies being born ( I did just fine , no trauma to 5 year old me )
IcedJack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man. There's plenty of blame to spread around, so I petition that it'd both educational and parental negligence.
yeah..... when you find it go to 176 in the stacks.
Solkre ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 21:16:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does she think when cats have kittens the parents are married? Dogs? Birds? Bees?
yosol ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:19:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It never occurred to me to ask that. That's actually a really good example. What I do remember is that, in that community, when they saw dogs having sex they would say something like: "they're stuck together" and I never asked if it occurred to them that they were having sex.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:55:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are to small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee however, flies anyway, because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
Old Soldier here. Worked on a joint mission with a reservist. She was 17ish, from a real conservative family. She really didn't know how a man gets a woman pregnant. She understood the basics-man penetrates woman-egg gets fertilized. But how could something so floppy penetrate such a tight orifice? Did the sperm come out by itself or did a man have to pee a bit while inside her. If she was trolling me she deserves an academy award. She was quiet during duty hours and didn't hang out with anyone after hours. When she brought the subject up, she appeared legit embarrassed and displayed anxiety about it. For those wondering-no, I did not explain or demonstrate anything to her. I brought her to a female senior NCO I knew, figured it was more appropriate if she explained it.
yosol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Castun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also worked with quite a few people that are young and incredibly sheltered. Home-schooled and from a rural area and all. It's almost sad how much is hidden from them with the intent that they can't hurt themselves, meanwhile it is often that fact which causes problems.
In a very small town I spent a year of my childhood in (we moved a lot) there was a similar case where a 12 or 13yo was astounded she was pregnant because she wasn't even married! You grow up, you get married, you have babies, right?
When sex and its relationship to babies was explained to her she said, "That!? All my uncles and cousins have been doing THAT to me for years!".
yosol ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:45:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok I thought that when I was 5, but ya know, kindergarten logic.
Backstory: I asked my then pregnant mom how you knew how many kids you would have and she told me that you just decide. From there my kinder brain deduced that to have a baby you got married, went to a doctor and had a baby put in you.
And now I'm cracking up because at 35, I never made that connection either. I've only known multiple people who have gone through rounds of IVF, but it never occurred to me that my 5 year old self had a point.
Though to be fair, the baby I envisioned being placed inside my mother was more of a Barbie sized version of a full term fetus and I had no concept what so ever of my dad having anything to do with it. Except maybe sign some paperwork. Otherwise he was largely superfluous in my mind.
But wouldn't the generations kind of learn after time that, you know, it causes children? Or would they just not pass on the information?
yosol ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 20:21:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one of the problems of education in the rural parts of Mexico. It's considered taboo. Talking with friends or family about sex/menstruation/masturbation is considered offensive. I once had to explain to a 60+ year old patient that the "love-making feeling" she had when she touched herself is called masturbation. She never heard of it.
DLee_317 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:05:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes u wonder how they even knew what sex was to have it in the first place. If its never discussed
Big_TX ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:19:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I Read this on another thread.
This girl in college had a friend who received no sex education so she taught her what sex was. Then her friend felt sick because she thought she was a virgin but she had been having sex for a long time with her BF. She just thought that what they were doing was called "making out."
DLee_317 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Ik tht fucked with her head. BF probably took advantage of tht fact.
Big_TX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe or maybe he didn't know what it was either. Reguardless, not telling her was a detrimental move.
yosol ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:18:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I understood correctly from the community, the man would have to be in charge of "making the baby". The girl (usually, they were under age marriages) would be told that let the man do the work because he knows what he's doing. So, in reality, the men were the only ones with the knowledge, while women just did what the men told them to.
I never looked any further into it because communities would see it as a foreigner being nosy.
AMViquel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
is called masturbation. She never heard of it.
Did you try using the Mexican word for masturbation? /s
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe it or not, she was unfamiliar with "spanking my Mexican monkey" in spanish.
You don't need to be smart to make babies. It happens by accident all the time to people completely unaware of how it works. Naturally once they accidentally get pregnant, myths can persist because they magically did not learn about ovaries and sperm just by banging for fun one night. So no, they still wouldn't learn and would not be able to pass down such information until they opened a book or googled how it really works. Just guessing how it happens is how the myths persist, they never figure it out on their own.
"Sex = Pregnancy" actually isn't an intuitive thing since a person can go for a while without realizing they're pregnant.
cornicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of reminds me of how in clan of the cavemen, the main character got pregnant after being raped and noticed that the baby has some similar feature to the father. In the book, no one in the tribe thought sex=babies and she was the first to realise. I imagine it's like that, some may question it but if you don't have incentive to find out then you just don't.
I worked with Mexican women and they were all calling a former employee stupid because she got pregnant, but then I realized it wasn't the sex they blamed, it was her loving him. "She shouldn't have had sex if she loved him."
When I said a woman can get pregnant without being in love they looked at me the way conspiracy kids look at you when you say 9/11 was carried out by 19 pissed off Muslims. "Sure bro, whatever you say"
When I was in Guadalajara in the 2000s a bookstore had a table full of free sex ed mini books apparently produced by the central government about how babies are made and types of birth control. I didn't know at the time what a contentious relationship there was historically between the government and the Catholic Church to make public health info like this possible and felt jealous as an American that Mexico was more advanced. I suppose teenagers can now go to the Planned Parenthood website for facts like those if they don't think the organization is the Devil.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair there are whole cultures which believe this.
My mom had a similar conversation with her roommate when she was about 18. My mom had no idea how pregnancy happened. She's not dumb, but she was raised by Presbyterian farmers who were pathologically averse to acknowledging that sex even exists, and figured that she'd find out on her wedding night anyway.
Fortunately, her roommate set her straight before it became important.
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her roommate is a MVP.
skylarmt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong. Not just for religious reasons, but because many young people are stupid.
Castun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:25:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's amazing how common this misconception is
I see what you fucking did here.
yosol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They may be now, but they weren't always! My whole family is from there, born and raised. But they were nearer to Chihuahua so maybe it was more so common in a particular region. Thanks Mexico!
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure Mennonite communities are scatter around the country. I've seen some people from that community either on rural or urban regions. Unfortunately, I've never entered one of their communities, they tend to be pretty selective on the doctors they want.
Mexico? The fundies taught this to their high school age children in North Louisiana back in the 90s, and almost certainly still do. It was incredibly common for the parents to teach the kids that once they get married, pray to god for a baby, and then they'll automagically get one. Sex didn't even factor into it except for "it's bad, don't do it".
They also taught things like men kissing = where HIV comes from, it's transmissible through touch, and homosexuality is what happens when you don't live in fear of divine retribution.
Many times this are indigenous people from very closed societies, and there are no words in their languages for genitalia and sex organs, so it's very hard to explain them anything.
What some people have begun to do is to invent those words, calling uterus "baby house" testicles "baby seeds" and so on, so that the name is a metaphor for the function
yosol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These were indigenous people. And if I had known I could use the tip you just gave me, everything would have been easier.
dabisnit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is what my momma told my sister when asked why our cat didn't have kittens. Our cat wasn't married!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I legitimately thought that was how it worked until high school, since babies born out of wedlock were just about unheard of (no one would admit it, or they'd get married real quick when they found out they were pregnant) but sex before marriage was more-or-less okay. I thought that God only gave babies to married couples who had sex.
My then fiancรฉ and I were living in an apartment while engaged. I ran into a new neighbor and and through small talk I told her about my upcoming nuptials. She got this look on her face and said, "You don't look pregnant." I was confused and told her I wasn't. "Then why are you getting married?" I told her I didn't understand what she was asking. "People get married when the woman is pregnant." I was stunned for a minute and told her that not everyone does that. She didn't believe me.
I grew up in the US in a school system that didn't cover health or human biology and many families were very religious and did not discuss anything body or sex related with their kids. Poor education and ignorance can happen anywhere.
Fucking Mexico man! I grew up there and too many years I was taught that marriage is what lead to babies. My priest told me this repeatedly and I was so blown away when I learned the truth.
I met a woman near the place you mentioned who claimed that a "Michelada" (brew involving beer and tomato with clam juice) after sex avoided pregnancy, oddly enough, she had just two kids, both planned, and an active sex life, tough to argue with that!
This is a common misperception among Thai women too. As far as a lot of them know, pregnancies start occurring randomly after you have a marriage ceremony to a man.
RonPolyp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like Middle-of-Fucking-Somewhere to me.
rob7030 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gah, I just read Wise Man's Fear for the first time and there's an entire chapter where the main character argues with a foreigner about this. Their entire culture didn't believe men had anything to do with babies. It was the most aggravating chapter to get through.
This happened to my mom. Apparently my grandparents never had "the talk" with her or she never once had a sex ed class in the 70s, maybe all the girls that got pregnant in high school were sent to special homes before she found it, idk. She always heard "When you get married and start a family," so logically marriage flipped the conception switch. That's how she (shockingly) got pregnant at 17. She was also raised Catholic and never bothered thinking about that whole "But Mary wasn't married to God" thing.
I always heard the same thing, too, but associated you start a family after marriage. Sex ed in Catholic school was actually extremely thorough. She still felt the need to gently explain to me that you CAN in fact get pregnant through having sex without being married when I was 18. She was absolutely shocked by the fact that I knew this. She just couldn't grasp that though we're mother/ daughter, that I'm not identical to her in the way we process information. She's not just a Narc, but a really, really dumb one.
This is my favorite method of trolling. Like if someone has an accident baby, I always say "if they didn't want to have a baby together, why'd they get married?". It makes people mad.
This is almost as bad as those cows on "I Didn't Know I was Pregnant" who somehow, after nine months of carrying a baby inside them and exhibiting all the symptoms of pregnancy, wind up on their dirty bathroom floor with a hand mirror trying to figure out what's coming out of their hoo hah.
They really should rename that show "I'm fat and clueless." I've seriously only seen like two episodes where the woman was not so overweight that her fat obscured her baby bump.
I saw an episode of that with an EMT/firefighter. She was more built-fat than overweight, a little chunkier but with plenty of muscle. She thought it was something else wrong with her and she was used to not getting a period due to her athleticism.
There was also the endurance athlete or weightlifter whose abs were too strong for the bump to get past them so her internal organs got squished around instead. She also had irregular periods due to all the working out then bam a baby
In fairness, it happened to my cousin and she is one of the tiniest people I've ever met. My uncle called one day and said "Brace yourself, because guess what you're an auntie." (Cousin and I are very close, more like sisters.)
I asked, because come on, girl. I couldn't believe it. She's about 100 pounds soaking wet and only five feet tall. She's not athletic or anything. But I guess always had irregular periods and the baby squished her organs and grew more around the back and only the day before she got "appendicitis" was she showing enough for her mom to go "I wonder if she's pregnant. Hm."
So it happens. And if it would happen to anyone it would happen to my cousin, who is allergic to planning anything more complicated than where to grab lunch. It's not always about being fat. I call the little guy our ninja baby. Never saw him coming.
The concept of the show itself is interesting. One of the thin girls who didn't know she was pregnant actually had a strangely located uterus and her baby basically developed inside her rib cage. If the show was always like that, it'd be super interesting to watch. But for the most part the show is always the same. It's a retelling of a story from an extremely overweight women about her harrowing toilet birth. And they always say "well my period has always been irregular so I didn't think anything of not getting it" and totally don't mention the fact that being at an unhealthy weight totally screws up your period. They also gloss over the fact that the person wasn't showing because they're already enormous.
izzidora ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 20:44:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got downvoted to hell for criticizing women like that lol. Yeah, I don't get it either.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All sex ed classes (even the idiotic ones that say abstinence only) need to include a banner, in big eye catching letters, with the words "Sex Makes Babies!"
No matter what else is covered, that banner hangs in the room. Kids start tuning out, the banner is there. That constant reminder will do more to incentivize safe sex (and even abstinence if that's your bag) than whatever the teacher tells them.
Then again, we are talking about a small rural community in the middle of fucking-nowhere, Mexico.
What was the name of the town?
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She belongs to one of the various communities known as huicholes/coras/wixรกrikas (honestly, I can't remember to which group she belongs to) that live in a part of Nayarit known as Sierra Madre Occidental. She was either from the town of Chimaltitan, Atonalisco or Guajimico.
I'm in a somewhat remote area in Mexico right now so I was wondering if it was near here but it's on the other side of the country. Were you ever able to convince her?
cited ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the plot of Spring Awakening
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Am descendent of small rural community in the middle of fucking nowhere mexico.
80+ year old grandma didn't know sex lead to babies. She thought the grace of God by sleeping in the same bed as man and wife. No wonder she had 20 kids...
FloppY_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a childhood friend who explained to me he attended his parents' wedding. As a catholic kid, this blew my fuckin mind. It wasn't til I was like 15 that I figured out you can have sex outside of marriage and have kids.
Juanhdz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Que viva el servicio social!!!!
bennitq ยท 1507 points ยท Posted at 23:05:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one is a little different.
My dad is a pediatrician. He told me the story of a teenage boy (around 13 y/o) who was referred to him (something unrelated, can't remember what). When he asked him if he was on medications, the boy's mom pulled out some birth control pills. Apparently his family physician suggested birth control as a way to treat his acne.
Yes, you read that correctly. A licensed doctor told a teenage BOY that was just going through puberty to take female hormones as acne treatment.
I think he had been taking them regularly for the past year...
I really don't think so, even combination BC pills are mostly progesterone. HRT pills are much higher doses of hormones and much more centered around estrogen.
Yes, you can. using BC is how many young trans women who are unable to access real HRT 'start' their transition and it can absolutely lead to breast tissue growth.
Source: Trans person, very active in the trans community, know multiple people personally who have done exactly this.
My ex husband started taking these "beauty suppliments" because he was trying to slow down the aging process and I think they had pueraria or some other phytoestrogen in them. He started growing tits. Yes I am dead serious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might have had some prior underlying condition, or maybe not. Most docs seem to say phytoestrogens are not potent enough for that.
However, this doesn't mean you can have all the soya and phytoestrogen you want, as your ex husband, this other case I read, and my dad (doctor himself) say.
If you're a cisgendered male, keep off that stuff.
I think my ex-husband's underlying condition was an affliction called "dumbass".
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumping a Redditor girl? Obviously a "Dumbass"
I shall now quote medical literature
Dumbass disease
Specialty- psychiatry/neurology
Affected part- Frontal cortex of brain
Symptoms- 1) A general not very smart behaviour.
2)Dumps Redditor wives.
3) Walks funny
4) Writes stupid medical literature on Reddit comments.
This is a chronic condition, generally not treatable. The condition is highly stigmatised and generally not covered by insurance or the DSM-V, resulting in a majority of practitioners denying the disease and recommending r/TIFU
sedaak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:31:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Starting the hormone cascade to begin developing mammaries is far easier than it should be.
Source: Knew a guy that naturally started developing tits due to a hormone imbalance, maybe a genetic defect. His levels weren't that out of wack, but he became obese and had little woman tits. It was weird, but I was at least informed about how common it is after that.
I think the effects would be pretty negligible(though it's not entirely without risk)....trans women have to take medication to block T as well as E pills while trans men usually get T injections.
The hormones in birth control pills are also at vastly lower doses then used in HRT.
However there are a lot of much more effective and less potentially dangerous solutions to acne
I'm a trans woman and you're completely right. If I stopped taking Spironolactone and continued taking my estrogen it would barely work if not at all completely. This kid would have the same effects pretty much as the placebos would give you that come with birth control.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have a gender neutral name like Sam or Morgan or something? I could see a doctor not checking gender and just suggesting it and calling it in on the phone.
My name's gender-neutral but usually male. Couldn't get a pap smear or mammo or anything for awhile until I threatened to show up to the office and drop trousers.
/yes, the veterans hospital
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hand't thought of that... eventually I got fed up and I go to Planned Parenthood til the VA fixes themselves. All my mail comes addressed to "Mister" despite big signs all over the VA hospitals saying "Please don't call me Mister - women are veterans too." Fuckwits the lot of them.
PP is pretty judgement-free and has lots of fee waivers, is that an option for FtM?
Azertys ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how it could happends... If I was the one taking the appointment and a semingly male name asked for a pap smear, I'd just ask their gender, and just write it down if they tell me they're indeed a woman.
yes but telling parents birth control fixs acne is a good way to get parents who are in denial about their teen having sex to get their teens birth control.
When my (now) wife was on birth control I freaked random people out a couple of times by taking a few of her sugar pills. They're just there to keep people in the habbit (and yes I made damn sure that's what they are first)
I've heard of a number of people receiving birth control earlier than they would normally need it because it worked well for them against acne.
Jacqques ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 02:15:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When does one "need" birth control pills?
Edit: Apparently no one can tell me when one need to take it, but atleast I know every women should definetly take it. Thanks Reddit.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:25:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Severe acne, severe cramps, uncontrollable PMS/PMDD, nausea, vomiting and other symptoms associated with your period, PCOS and related hormone disorders, pregnancy prevention, a million other things.
Well for me I need it to balance out my hormones for my PCOS or else my body wouldn't expel my period ever. It also allowed me to feel more feminine, and after I started taking it I realized that I was attracted to people for the first time.
Well... it's exactly what it says on the tin. Birth control pills are pills that are needed to control birth. Plus it can help with acne and other medical issues that are affected by hormones.
Birth control pills/injections don't have FSH in them. They usually have estrogen, progesterone, and/or other similar chemicals like cyproterone acetate, drospirenone, or norethindrone. In addition to increasing the amount of progesterone and estrogen in the body, some of these chemicals (particularly cyp and drospirenone) also have anti-androgenic affects (further reducing the amount of testosterone).
Yeah, there's a lot of stupid doctors out there too. Sometimes, the 12 years you spend in school just wasn't enough.
My doctor told me benzodiazepine withdrawal and alcohol withdrawal couldn't exist once the drug leaves your system. So all those DT's and seizures are just a person being dramatic, apparently.
Well, a licensed doctor gave my sister's ex husband a medication that is used for menopausal women, I can't remember the name but I'd know it if I heard it, when he was a young teen...like 12 or so...to control mood swings. He has breasts. Not big ones, but I have seen him shirtless and he has a large A small B cup breasts.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:07:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u4iak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually this is very common. I was given two different forms of women's bc before I was given acutane.
Not sure if you know how horrible acutane is, but it's effective on fixing some horrible acne. My acne was so bad that people at walmart would stop and stare at me or even approach me and tell me to wash my face and stop eating chocolate... Not sure what happened to the pic of me before I started the meds, but told the parents to burn it.
Taking female birth control as a male is mostly harmless. It didn't fix my acne and I still masterbated firiously to whatever women fashion catalog I could find.
There are actually acne treatment tablets that have the side effect of acting as birth control (eg brenda/diane/estelle-35) which are commonly prescribed as birth control to women. That isn't their purpose, they are just misused. This could be what he was taking. They dont contain oestrogen
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this in the US? I'm a pharmacist and birth control for a guy would raise a parade of red flags.
Oh gosh, a guy I knew in high school took birth control all four years for acne. He thought it was hilarious and would joke that at least he knew he wasn't pregnant. Still had tons of acne and was weird to boot.
This is especially weird because at some point pharmacists had to FILL that prescription and should have picked up on the mistake. That's (one of the reasons) why they're there.
To be fair, for some women being on regular (as in on a regular basis) hormonal birth control can have an awesome side effect of reducing the severity of one's acne.
Don't put your kids to bed with a bottle with Coke in it. (They then switched to Diet Coke).. facepalm
Don't wiggle out your permanent teeth just because the tooth fairy will give you money.
You can't brush cavities away with toothpaste or any of these new Internet fads (oil pulling, honey, chocolate) once your cavity is deep enough it needs to be fixed by a dentist.
Fluoride isn't poison any more than table salt is poison. Small quantities are good for you. Anyone who tells you otherwise has been lied to and believed it.
I have plenty more, but I'd have to think harder.
Edit: Had a few questions about #3.. there was a little guy probably 8 years old or so that had wiggled out his 4 lower PERMANENT incisors (front teeth) after wiggling out his 4 baby teeth in the corresponding spots because his family made such a big deal about giving him money from the tooth fairy. They were in my office asking when the new teeth would be coming in.... had to tell them NEVER.
Edit#2: incisors only have 1 root typically and when it first erupts it is not completely developed and the tooth is still moving through bone so it isn't really firm in place yet.. this kid capitalized on a single-rooted, undeveloped, erupting tooth, and with a little elbow grease and the promise of riches was able to tough it out.
my partner is an MD and has told me stories about patients who ONLY drink soda/pop, period. Theses teens have crippling headaches and sleep 4 hours or less a night. No water. ever. it's like idocracy out there.
My 82 year old grandma is like this. All she drinks is coffee and wine and Diet Coke, and all she ever eats are donuts and potato chips and toast. I have no idea how she hasn't died yet.
I was that as a teen. Diet pepsi only, our water tasted gross and sometimes came out of the tap brown so we didn't drink that. Mom (who worked as a nurse's aid or something like, 30 years prior) never bought us water or anything.
This woman also freaked out, cried and pinned me down to shove forkfuls of hamburger helper into my mouth (back of my throat, tasted blood for awhile) when I started eating veggies without meat once in a while.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:39:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is similar, never drinks more than a few sips of water at a time. Buys water for the house, but is always amazed when I drink a full bottle in one sitting.
Literally cried when I went vegetarian in high school, then went full blown anger mode for a month before I stopped to appease her and ate meat again.
Not here, the whole town had it for years. They finally got pipes run to a different water source and that cleared it up. It was so bad, even our pastor still comments on it in his sermons because he was shocked when he moved here.
ETA- The company that was redoing the pipes were digging up some of them in town to replace them at the same time, and they broke one on my street. They thought they'd hit a sewer line.
Jesus. I dated a 38 year old for awhile, and while it is normal to have a soda while out, I eventually found out he was drinking 12+ per day but it was okay because he thought water gave him heartburn and he switched to caffeine free after 8. He popped Tums constantly.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I was raised. It was an awesome day if I got suuuper sweet tea instead of soda.
I understand my grandma couldn't drink water after chemo because it messed up her taste buds, but my mother had no excuse for drinking four+ 2 liters of Mellow Yellow daily.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She said it tasted metallic, and like bile. I'm sure your results would very on the individual, but water made her feel ill to drink because of it. Told me plain Coke was the only thing that was palatable.
She was probably sensitive to the minerals in the water that were reacting with her tastebuds. My dad had problems like that when he was going through chemo. I can't imagine coke would be better though.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought so too, but she was stubborn if nothing else, lol. Always cold Coke in a glass chilled in the fridge. Honestly, we were on well water so god knows what was in it.
Omg I offered my ex's niece water once and she goes 'I hate water'. Like, really? How tf do you hate water? She also said she hated the 'little green things' on a pot roast once. It was basil. She said she hated something just because it looked like it might be healthy for you.
It sounds like she's just looking for ways to be negative, but I have to say that I DO actually hate water and I have heard a couple other people say the same thing. It tastes terrible to me, just as any other food I don't like does. The only time I can drink it is if I'm feeling extremely hot and it's the only cold drink available, or if it's flavored - and I don't mean putting lemon in it or something (because that still tastes too watery), but those carbonated flavored store-bought bottles.
Jacqques ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:02:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have read that water doesn't have a taste. I am not entirely convinced this is true, but I do know that some water tastes horrible.
Maybe you just havne't tasted "good" water yet?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:57:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a person who only drinks water, it definitely has a taste, but as your other reply said its because of what's in it, how it was stored and its temperature. You also get very sensitive to the taste of water once you phase out all other drinks.
Don't drink distilled water though, you do need those minerals in the water.
Caleb323 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:02:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can actually drink distilled water... It's just too much that will mess you up
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair, but once you start you might make a habit out of it and believe me when I say that some health nuts will switch out their drinks for only distilled thinking its healthy because its "pure".
Much more convenient and smart to drink tap, bottled or any other non-distilled :)
Caleb323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a kid, I hated water too. Tap water was nasty, and filtered wasn't much better. My husband grew up in a mountain town. Glacial aquifer pumped directly into their town's water supply. Even in the summer, came out ice cold and delicious. That water was good. Now... We have reverse osmosis, we drink it quite often. Still hate tap water.
Caleb323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most tap water tastes off for me... I love water so I can really tell the tastes of different waters through different filters and pipes and what not
Tap water is super metallic in taste, especially in cities. My SO doesn't notice it, but I grew up on mountain water and then lived on a property with its own well. Good water should be damn near flavourless.
Definitely get from my comment that there was not enough information for people to see how terrible this little girl truly is. The water was a direct result of her parents exclusively giving her juice and soda straight after breast milk and, upon her throwing a fit after trying water, gave up and continued to give the 2 year old Mountain Dew. This is only one example.
My neice loved to drink water when she was little until my mom (grandma) started putting Pepsi in her sippy cup against my sisters wishes. Then if you gave her water she would scream and throw the cup. Now 10 years later she's fat and lives off soda :(
I about flipped out on my stepmom when I saw her letting my niece, who was around 1 at the time, drink soda out of her Sonic cup. But it was okay because it was diet?
My parents let me drink soda from a young age and I have a really hard time drinking enough water now. I don't want that to happen with her.
I guess I'm kinda lucky we were too poor to have soda growing up but drank sweet tea and water. Drank mostly water as my dad was an ass hole and decreed there always be at least 1 full gallon of cold tea for him in the fridge :(
From this girls diet she is clearly going to be overweight and have a very hard time eating healthy/losing weight/etc. Her parents also treat her like a little princess and give her whatever she wants so she's just shitty to be around in general. She's in for a seriously rude awakening when she gets older and people don't bow down to her just for being a girl.
Those are loaded with no calorie sweetener, usually aspartame, no better than diet soda unfortunately.
I say that as someone who loved to drink black cherry carbonated water for years before I bothered to actually read the ingredients. Really bummed me out.
Had a guy who lived in my dorm in college who drank 10+ cans of soda a day. He passed out on the floor in front of my room one day, so naturally I called 911 and pulled up a chair. I then got to listen to the paramedics explain that water is necessary to continue living before they took him to the hospital so he could be pumped full fluids.
Naturally he came back from the experience and switched to diet because, "its more watery, so its good for hydrating"
Yeah, it's not healthy but carbonated water is the main ingredient in soda so you won't die of thirst exclusively drinking it. That story doesn't make sense.
It wasn't that he was dying of thirst, it was that he was not properly feeding his body. He convinced himself that it was merely a hydration issue because they gave him fluid at the hospital. Ultimately he dropped out and enlisted with the Air Force.
I've moved on since my adolescence to spring and most tap water, but I still can't stand the overly chlorinated water some cities provide.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sadly enough, bottled water can be more expensive than soft drinks. and if the tap water isn't safe to drink (often in poorer communities) people sometimes have to survive on soft drinks.
My friend does this. After enough nagging I've managed to convince him to at least drink juice instead of soda all the time. Not sure how much better that is, but I tried.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up like that for a bit. My dad bought tons of soda, and never felt like paying the small bit of money to get our water filter fixed/replaced, so our water tasted nasty.
Now that I'm an adult I realize how fucked up only drinking soda, and juice and whatnot is.
Everywhere in China, Vietnam, and Japan, I constantly encounter a lack of water at restaurants. Most people rarely drink pure water. I honestly do not understand how all these people are not severely dehydrated.
Had a co-worker (late 20s, maybe) who believed drinking soda was the same as drinking water. She also hated eating alone because she was afraid she would choke and no one would be around to help her. She also had 5 cats and wore shoes that were at least 2 sizes too big. She was an odd duck.
My aunt only drinks diet coke and coffee. No water ever. She's getting botox now to try to help her migraine headaches. And she has trouble sleeping. I wonder why..... sigh
Honestly most of my drinks are soda if I drink at all. (I drink less than 3-4 cups of liquid a day regardless I don't know why but I hate hydrating myself). I still drink some water and tea and I know its a problem for sugar and all but at very least my enamel is great and I have never had any dental issues.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how that is even possible. Sometimes a cold glass of water is the most satisfying taste ever.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex-girlfriend was like that.
She wouldn't drink anything that wasn't carbonated. She always bitched to be about her constant headaches and lack of sleep. After a while her family was able to convince her to switch over to seltzer water. Still a bitch, but doesn't whine about the results of her idiocy anymore, at least.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
had a friend/coworker who was totally distraught that her boyfriend was in the hospital for drinking nothing but energy drinks in the middle of one of the worst summers in Oklahoma (100+ degrees daily) and that the doctors and nurses were acting like it was 'his fault' he's in the hospital. Like kid I'm sorry but your boyfriend is 18 and should know by now that what he did could've killed him.
My niece is 7 and my nephew is 4 and we've never seen them drink water, however lots and lots of juice and soda. My almost 5 year old won't drink anything but milk and water. If you offer him juice he will politely decline and ask for water.
I grew up in a lower class family. We never drank water, drank soda, mainly Mountain Dew, ate TV dinners most nights and each got a full bag of chips to snack on for a few nights. Unhealthy as fuck. I married into a really healthy family and they taught me how to eat right and take better care of myself. I never knew any better, I just ate how my family did. I lucked out with an extremely high metabolism and was super skinny.
ahchava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My co worker us this way. She's 30. She says water makes her sick. It's much worse now that she's pregnant. For a while she wasn't drinking anything, we broke her of it quickly at work, and I eventually made a punch that surprisingly worked for her morning sickness. Unfortunately it's still super high in sugar, but at least shes drinking Something.
jimanri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 29, and I started drinking water less than two years ago. It's better than I thought it would be.
Yes, I grew up with crippling headaches. And yes, I slept very little as a teen. I no longer really drink soda, and although I still drink 7-8 cups of coffee per day, I also drink a glass or two of water. Yay me!
My grandma in law is like that, she literally brags about never drinking water and only drinking diet coke. It just makes me cringe, she's like 60 and can barely move and can't breathe without an oxygen tank while my grandma is the same age and is still running her janitorial business. Smoking and diet coke isn't something to be proud of meemaw.
mdds2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did that for probably 10 or 12 years. Giving up pop was the second best thing I ever did. Best was removing the tv from the bedroom.
This is my step mom, except she drinks almost as much water as she does soda. I have explained to her that 100 oz of water a day doesn't meam much when she also has 128 oz of Diet Coke, 1 to 3 extra large Monsters, and then ~10 margaritas at the end of the day.
She is BLOWN AWAY that she gets no sleep when she drinks like this EVERY SINGLE DAY. Oh, and she takes Tylenol PM at the end of the night.
She is going to die some horrid explosive death, I'm sure.
Pipes32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
16 cavities when I was a teenager due to this and a very lax brushing regime. That fixed me for sure. I very specifically remember being falling down drunk in college but crawling into the bathroom to brush my teeth before bed. GOTTA BRUSH...NO MORE CAVITIES.
My aunt is a psychologist and runs a clinic that helps all sorts of people. Not sure if someone in the family was a patient or something but she was telling us about these parents who always let their kids drink pop or juice, it's all they seemed to drink. A 3-4 pretty young kids with rotten teeth. It just baffles me parents can do this to their kids.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I may sleep 2 hours a night and work/procrastinate myself to death for the other 22, but I drink a fuckload of water. Thank you for giving me something to be proud of
I once told my mom that she needed to drink more water. She looked right at me and said, "Jessie, my Dr. Pepper is just as wet as your water."
Alrighty then.
meowqct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a (dumb) teen, I rarely drank water and would only drink milk, juice, eggnog (when available), and pop. I rarely drank water and of course, had a lot of headaches. Sooooo much regret. I drink more water now.
I worked in a kitchen that was tiny and hot as shit and there were guys over 30 only drinking soda all day everyday. They were all diabetic with their insulin stored in the fucking low boys and they wouldn't stop. I gave them all the literature after yelling at them for months. Never helped. No idea how they are, restaurant Co workers aren't always friends. The rest was great but I abhorred every tuesday/wednesday with those two idiots
losian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair it's the parents. Growing up we had sweet tea or soda in the fridge, period. Maybe fruit juice or gatorade, which has near as much sugar as soda anyways. You can't expect a kid raised in that to understand the damage and risk.
Some day idiocracy will turn into a documentary... I hope that I am already dead when that happens
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my theory is this is a reason mental illness "mainly develops in adults in their early 20s." As teens we eat garbage, then in our early 20s we don't feel so right. Then magically many people "grow out of their mental illness," as they get older. I attribute all of this to poor diet, malnutrition, and lack of self-control regarding what we eat.
My step-grandma is like that. Then she'll complain because she gets UTIs, and then complain that the antibiotics make her mouth dry, so she drinks more soda.
Sharad17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait this is bad, why do you need non sugary water too?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come to the south, it's like it's one of the ten commandments or something.
A friend of my sister's only drank soda/pop. Never water or juice or anything else. She was 13 when rushed to the hospital for breathing problems and a massive migraine. My sister went with her, and what I learned is that the girl's blood pressure was so high they couldn't risk taking a blood sample. Testing her blood sugar was MESSY because of said blood pressure. She had to stay at the hospital for a week because of other complications, and her parents were given a VERY stern lecture about soda/pop. It's been over a decade and even though she's cut that crap out of her diet her heart has permanent damage, and she still has blood pressure problems.
The only thing I have ever drank was soda. I rarely drink anything else, and I don't get crippling headaches. I also sleep more than four hours. I guess I'm just in the minority.
Xenu2112 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:14:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How old are you? Asking because I'm now in my mid-40s; my mom used to give me Coke in my bottle when I was a baby and soda was basically all I drank until my early 20s.
Had dental problems all my life, starting in my late teens, had lost all my molars before I turned 30, and every single tooth left in my mouth has been root canaled. I'm about to pay another 5 grand for my 4th titanium tooth implant. All this could have been avoided had I just layed off the sodas.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's terrible. Unfortunately, I was somewhat in the same boat. I've had lots of soda throughout my entire life, but especially from the beginning of high school until now. I have tried to quit multiple times but never succeeded, until now.
One of my new year's resolutions was to stop drinking pop, and I am so far 9 days without a soda (edit: I was drinking soda almost daily prior) . The only issue is now I am more drawn to drinking other drinks, especially if they are sweet.
I have been drinking more beer, milk, and ESPECIALLY coffee. But I consider a small price to pay to stop drinking soda entirely.
I have been drinking more water as well, and I think I am going to buy myself a water bottle to bring around so I am no tempted to buy coffee, and when I do have coffee (for the caffeine, mornings are hard) I am going to get it with 2 milks instead of the classic double double (2 cream, 2 sugar).
I am 20 right now, and it is starting to dawn on me that I need to start taking good care of my body. My teenage body and high metabolism have helped soften the blow of drinking so much soda. I only hope that by stopping now I can prevent myself from having future health issues.
The goal for me this year is self improvement. Stopping soda is part of that.
That's great! Do be careful of juices; they have a ton of sugar in them too, and can be as bad as soda in many cases. But you can start watering down juices, over the course of a couple weeks. Also, lemon juice in water is satisfying to me, especially when I haven't had a lot of sweet stuff recently but water isn't cutting it. And green tea (among other teas) has a lot of flavor without needing sugar. Anyway, good luck! It's super impressive!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 15. I know that it's bad for me, but I can't stop drinking it.
I remember that my mom told me that when I was around 1 or 2 years old, I grabbed a soda from the fridge and drank it. I think that's what made me love it so much.
It's delicious, and I know it's bad for me. I just can't stop drinking it. I haven't been to the dentist in close to three or four years now because none of the dentists around me accept the insurance that I got switched to from CHIP.
The only dentist that I went to go see never washed his hands before putting his hands in my mouth, nor did he clean the mouth piece. He also took fake x-rays, and refused to let me see them. The dentist I had before him always let me see the x-rays that was taken immediately after even without me having to ask.
So, I'm sure that doesn't help make my teeth any better.
So at 11 or 12, you were asking to see x-rays, then determining they were fake because the dentist refused?
You mention chip insurance, so I'm assuming US. So around 2013, a dentist had such poor hygiene as to jeopardize his entire livelihood and savings? Because what you described are numerous and serious violations.
Well, more or less, my parents asked. I usually say "I asked", or "I went", ect. When it involves them. So, they were the ones who asked.
But, yeah. With the bad dentist, my parents actually called them up to talk. I'm not too sure what was all said, but I know that my mom did most of the talking.
I'm not too sure if that dentist is still around anymore. If you don't believe me, then I can see why. It really did happen though.
Also, the best way I could describe the x-ray thing was fake x-rays. All they had me do was bite on something for no less than about a few seconds. They didn't lower anything onto my head. They just had me bite down, and that was that.
You're either committed to this lie, or it's a disturbing truth.
I appreciate the response either way.
That being said...Drinking less soda will cause you to crave less soda and replacing with water will make, literally, EVERYTHING taste better because you're taste buds won't be so constantly overstimulated.
I know that it's bad for me, but I can't stop drinking it.
No, you don't. You're thinking 'slightly unhealthy' and 'increased risk'. We're talking diabetes, severe tooth decay (which, yes, can kill you via infection if its untreated), risk of heart disease, and all manner of other risks.
You don't need to cut it out entirely, but you need to at least force yourself to learn to tolerate drinking water.
I understand the risks, and I am trying my best to cut back on soda. I used to drink around four or five a day, now it's slowly dwindling down to two or three a day.
My deceased grandpa had diabetes, so I know what it can do to a person. I'm not too sure what he died from, but I'm certain it was from his diabetes.
For the decaying teeth, I understand that as a risk aswell. If it ever gets to that point, and if I can't see a dentist, then I really have clue what to do then.
My number one concern is the heart diseases that can come about. I don't want to be twenty five, and suddenly have an heart attack or something. I know that it probably doesn't work like that, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
Like I said, I'm trying my best to cut down on the soda. It may not be a huge difference, but it's a start.
That's better at least. Just seemed like you were taking the "oh well" path of not trying to change from your other comments, which would truly be dangerous.
Jesus fuck get some bottled water in your diet at least. Not to be fear mongering, but drinking exclusively soda really is in "you probably shouldn't be functioning" territory. Even if it is just sparkling water you're drinking that carbonation isn't great for your teeth (think how OxyClean works by cleaning with bubbles) and likely causes a lot more gas.
Have a friend who refuses to drink tap because it has "fluorine" in it. I tried to explain fluoride but he wasn't buying it. He just pointed me to a blog and told me to read the truth....
I've been guzzling tap water my entire life, so either I'm superhum or fluoride isn't bad for you. It's the latter of course, the former is still up in the air.
Well the confusion for my friend is flouriNE vs fluoriDE. They believe they are the same. One is in fact poisonous and the other is only in large amounts but I guess basic chemistry is a bit complicated for people.
Yeah...do something millions do and have done for as long as flouride has been used. So probably 50 years. "It's a slow poison. It's just another chemical that causes cancer or something."
Nothing will change a skeptics mind except for something that includes a conspiracy and a way to make you feel smart for not being "gullible".
In that case, convince him that claims of fluoride in water being bad for you are just propaganda financed by Big Dental to prevent people from keep their teeth as healthy as they could.
Like most poison, a little won't kill you but a lot will. You know just like Lead, Mercury or PCB's. In high amounts Fluoride is toxic and can cause brain damage. Your water only has a tiny amount of it in it.
When I was a Nursing student I had to tell parents that Gatorade was full on sugar.
adcas ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 23:34:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I... wow. It's literally salt and sugar, we make a solution just like it for our chickens and drink the same solution if we're dumb enough to get dehydrated.
Marketing, I guess.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And compared to your sweat there's hardly any salt in Gatorade at all. Drinking gatorade actually depletes you of electrolytes. It just happens to be ever so slightly more electrolyte-dense than water and electrolytes=good athleticism amirite that they market it that way.
Not sure what you use for your chickens, but Gatorade is basically sugar water.
They both have comparable amounts of sugar per serving to soda. All of the products in my post have comparable amounts and none are particularly "good for you."
I'm a dentist. I had to have this conversation with parents way more times than I liked because "Little Jimmy just had three cavities filled after his last checkup! How can he have more already?!"
Smarag ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:06:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It probably depends on the country? I just looked up the sugar content of our powerade here in Germany and it's 14.76g per 12 oz/ 4.1g per 100 ml. Still a lot of sugar in Gatorade wouldn't have expected that.
That's great! An important factor people tend to overlook is not just how much of a sugary liquid is ingested, but the time interval over which it is consumed.
Imagine you drink a glass of juice with a meal, but it's gone by the time your food is gone. Your teeth were exposed to the sugar (and all the acids that bacteria turn that sugar into) over the course of the meal, but then it stopped. Your mouth, over a short time, returns to a normal pH and the danger of hurting your enamel is minimized.
Now imagine you have a glass of juice at the same time as your meal, but you finish your meal and keep the glass of juice, sipping it bit by bit over the course of an hour. In this scenario, your mouth is constantly being exposed to small doses of sugar over the course of the hour. This means the pH of your mouth is constantly being kept acidic, which is when enamel breaks down and you can end up with cavities.
Same amount of sugar, different exposure intervals, much different impact on your teeth. Coffee and tea drinkers who put milk and sugar in their drinks are notorious for sipping their drinks over long time periods. Food for thought!
Don't put your kids to bed with a bottle with CokeAny sugary liquid in it. (They then switched to Diet Coke).. facepalm
FTFY.
I had apple juice bottles as a baby. I had cavities. My younger siblings didn't have apple juice bottles as babies. They didn't get cavities. Proof my parents are capable of learning.
My buddy had a baby and he was taking care of her alone, so his mom was helping. Grandma kept giving the baby milk in the bottle as she went off to sleep, despite my friend asking her not to. Kid's front teeth rotted away by age 2, she actually needed implants until she got her permanent teeth. A few thousand dollars out of pocket.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
w_p ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:41:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had apple juice bottles as a baby. I had cavities. My younger siblings didn't have apple juice bottles as babies. They didn't get cavities. Proof my parents are capable of learning.
I have no cavities while being lackluster with cleaning my teeth (as a teen). My brother cleaned his 3 times a day, avoided sugar and went to the dentist every 3 month and every time he had to have something done. Genetics play a pretty big part too.
It's also what set of mouth bacteria you have, and whether your spit is slightly basic (more prone to gum disease) or slightly acidic (more prone to tooth decay). My teeth are rotting away despite brushing twice a day and cutting waaaaay back on sugar, but damn if my gums aren't the healthiest thing.
I'm the exact opposite: I've abused and ignored the fuck out of my teeth and they're perfectly fine with no cavities, but my gums got pretty fucked up and inflamed for a period of time before I took it more seriously.
Zoethor2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I had pretty meh oral hygiene as a teenager, only had one very minor cavity in my life. But my gums receded to such an extreme degree on my lower front teeth that I had to have a graft placed from tissue on the roof of my mouth. Thankfully the problem hasn't recurred, that surgery sucked.
Breast milk can cause cavities?? Is it sugary? Is this a problem for babies that are just getting their teeth or for kids who are breastfed for longer?
Yes. Breast milk has sugars in it because that is what the baby needs to survive. Formula milks have sugars too. Babies tend to like sweet stuff because sugars are the easiest form of energy a human can break down and get babies need a lot of energy for growth. It's a problem that can't be avoided because it issues for all babies.
Only if the baby/toddler goes to sleep after a feed and doesn't have his/her teeth brushed.
Its the same for any sweet drink.
spadgirl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:38:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think maybe saying "breastmilk causes cavities" is kind of innacurate/maybe not what you think! The consensus seems to be that it causes less than formula (when direct from the source), and other factors such as bacteria from mum and dad, other foods, and genetic issues can play a role.
You might find this article interesting:
http://www.llli.org/nb/nbsepoct02p164.html
Thank you for the link. I'm a breastfeeding mom of a baby with 8 teeth and in the process of getting 8 more.
Valscorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People theorize that's why humans like sugar so much is that we got it when we were babies, thus why it becomes addicting.
Figms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:50:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am NOT a doctor, but isn't that literally what lactose is? I remember it as being a milk sugar that most people can only digest as infants because that's when it's vital to survival.
So not really a bad thing, just worth noting.
Edit: I don't "render" stuff so much as remember it. Thanks, Swype.
phearlez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Breast milk can cause cavities?? Is it sugary?
It is sweet, but any fermentable carb can contribute to cavities. Candies or bread, doesn't matter.
Gsusruls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, a pacifier exacerbates the problem. Kids who are on the pacifier longer are significantly more likely to develop cavities. At one year, they should be nearly weaned off of it.
Panguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering it's supposed to contain all the nutrition for your baby, it makes sense that there would be sugar. I've heard breast milk has a sweet taste, also. Though I suppose anything you take in other than water or celery has the potential to give you cavities.
I'll admit the fifth one was a surprise to me when I found out. My dentist here gave me fluoride tablets for my kids because the water here doesn't have enough. Learned something new that day.
Sam-Gunn ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:13:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While deadly amounts exist naturally in certain water supplies (not municipalities in most areas, otherwise you'd be told not to drink the water), but when added and monitored it's perfectly fine. If someone says "oh, well then why do they tell you not to eat toothpaste" it's because flouride in toothpaste is at an EXTREMELY high amount compared to artificially adding it to water.
Fluoride and I dont like each other. My skin blisters, peels and goes nuts and I try to itch myself to death when its in my water. My teeth mottle badly as well and my digestive system gets very upset. If it was just an additive option in toothpaste I would be a happy camper, I would be much less sick. Yes, My Doctor checked me out and it is the fluoride. It may be needed but I really dont want it in my water. In toothpaste should be enough in this day and age.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet that's not a normal reaction in any way shape or form. On the whole, fluoride helps. If you're in the very small minority that has such a severe reaction to it, you should drink bottled water to better control your intake and prevent such exposure.
Ideally I need all my water not to have fluoride in it. Cleaning, bathing, drinking and so on. I did look into it but switching the whole house water and running costs is too prohibitive. Yes I know its for health but I make 22k a year and this would cost 8-10k to set up then 250-500 per month. Its not life threatening so Ill just have to live with it. I rent and the system isnt portable, its a permanent fixture. I do have an osmosis filter for drinking water but its not enough sadly. Oh well.
It is literally phosphate fertilizer plant chemical waste.
Sam-Gunn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fluoride? No, it is not. Fluoride is a natural element. Perhaps it can also be created by such waste, but for most quantities it's found naturally.
If you find any one of those people who believe flouride is dangerous inherently, and you talk with them long enough, they will provide you with a link to deaths in China related to Fluoride.
The articles are usually true, but it's not inherently dangerous except for those sorts of natural deposits that reside within certain water supplies, though are not often found in most areas. The danger with those water supplies in china were due to large natural deposits contaminating the water supply without any form of regulation. A LOT more contamination.
Added fluoride, which most municipal water supplies add to the water supply, are extremely low amounts that provide mild health benefits, especially in terms of keeping teeth healthy alongside brushing your teeth (toothpaste and mouthwash, in addition to what they do when cleaning your teeth at the dentists, contain much larger quantities of it, hence why the toothpaste is so good for you, and why it's bad to make a habit of swallowing it).
Municipalities do get their sodium fluoride from smoke stack scrubbers. Do not pretend that it is mined out of the earth. I live in a borough that gets it's fluoride just from that. Fuck your mass medication BS. I believe in choice.
I notice you didn't reply to the dental fluorosis comment.
Answer this and I will yield: What causes dental fluorosis?
Do you also believe that people should be able to develop goiters and cretinism through iodine deficiency? How about vaccination, e.g. for smallpox or measles? These public health campaigns completely eliminated their epidemiological targets. Sure, people aren't educated in detail about the mechanism of action of either, but there's no point because no knowing person should refuse. Similar applies to publicly funded fire departments and pollution controls. They are a problem if you want to have a rubbish heap by your front door or get rid of your ton of used motor oil, but for most people they are very good ideas.
The comment about dental fluorosis is in my opinion irrelevant at best and disingenuous at worst. It is only a cosmetic discoloration of teeth. Medically, the teeth are stronger and healthier. I hold that in balance it is like the sore arm after a flu shot - so what?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:45:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't actually believe that they are arguing against this.
Ah, yes... 'healthy-holistic-living' is most definitely not going to be at all biased against fluoride... and neither are the sites they reference, such as the highly-renowned and totally unbiased 'fluoridealert.org', or the Lancet Report, which is known to have endorsed shitty/outright false studies before.
(on a side note: anyone else think that this entire page looks kinda like one big advertisement for the 'free cookbook' offered at the end of the article?)
TargetAq ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:18:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, and at the same time a source of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is in the fumes of coal power plants, and citric acid, a commonly used food preservative, is produced industrially by black mold. The unappetizing source of these substances is no substantive argument against their use. I will not contend either way that fluoride is or is not derived from an industrial waste, but I argue it doesn't matter anyway.
Meanwhile, the epidemiological arguments for its inclusion are well-established, especially for the poor. The marginal benefits of its inclusion seem to drop with additional dental care, but the only established negative effect is a chance of tooth browning, which doesn't change the risk-reward balance.
Realistically it's probably because your municipality simply doesn't add flouride to their water. It's actually a social issue that no one really knows/talks about these days other than Dentists and conspiracy theorist types.
You ever watch Dr Strangelove? The classic black comedy film about an insane US General who tries to start a Nuclear holocaust against the Soviets. Has rants how maintaining the purity of his bodily fluids and believes adding flouride to the water was a conspiracy to drug the people by the Ruskies.
That's not a joke. That was a real controversy / belief that led opposition groups to lobby against the practice back in the 50s and 60s when the practice started to gain usage. Thus you'll see how a lot of places today have never adopted the practice. Admittedly there's some actual research and real opinions that the practice isn't as effective as once thought, but today most of that just stems from groups who philosophically oppose it, and limited govt Libertarian types.
These days people just assume, oh there's flouride in the water. They did that back in the day to help prevent tooth decay, right? Good chance in many areas if you live where that type of thinking was prevalent your tap water doesn't have it.
moldboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the last time I was at the dentist I was told my city doesn't fluoridate the water in the summer because it costs too much to just water grass with it. There is a natural amount of fluoride in the water but not "enough", so they do add in the winter
It's definitely ridiculous as a substitute for any dental hygiene. Not to mention irresponsible to advocate for anyone to stop brushing their teeth.
However I begrudgingly admit that I tried it (followed up by a thorough toothbrushing) and my teeth have never felt so clean. I think the oil saponifies when you froth it with the water in your mouth and it's like gargling with yummy coconut soap.
I do it once in a while if I want to feel extra clean.
I may regret asking, but I'm kind of curious about number 1. Were they drinking it themselves thinking it would make them impervious to all other tooth decaying substances?
Breastmilk is pretty sugary and if you have a baby that falls asleep at the boob like I did then that milk sits in their mouth. And if they get teeth especially early or nurse for a long time then they could get a cavity from it.
Zarana85 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:36:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a first time mom with a 6 month old baby, I'm glad you mentioned this. Little man has had 4 teeth since he was 3 months old and he falls asleep like this all the time. Thanks for this comment!
Jennasie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it's more genetics than the breast milk. My first child had to have his four front teeth capped at 18 months. But my daughter is 14 months and shows no signs of tooth decay. Both breasted exclusively and both had teeth fairly early.
I had all four of my front teeth pulled when I was two. I was never breast fed.
Falling asleep at the breast is much different than falling asleep with a bottle. It takes effort to pull milk from the breast but it will drip from a bottle. I wouldn't worry too much about it mama.
My daughter still nurses and sleeps at the boob at 18 months old and got her first teeth at five months so I'm kind of nervous that her teeth will need caps in the future, just like my husband.
My 3 year old nurses to sleep still but he brushes and flosses well and no cavities yet!
Jennasie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are called milk teeth for a reason.
spadgirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might find this article interesting! I've heard Dr Brian Palmer speak on this before, a dentist who specifically looked at the relationship between dental caries and breastmilk.
http://kellymom.com/ages/older-infant/tooth-decay/
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:46:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If those teeth fall out early then the adult teeth aren't going to come in right. Also just because they're baby teeth, they still have roots and cavities cause pain.
Jennasie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:30:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you would choose to have a growing toddler to go through the pain of having cavities for their whole childhood then sure.
You loose teeth starting around age 6-7 but they don't just all fall out at once. It could take YEARS for a tooth with a cavity to fall out.
That being said I have no fucking idea why insurance companies refuse to cover preventative care on baby teeth.
A couple people in my family have been hyping oil pulling like crazy. But they realize it isn't a cure all (we had a dentist in the family, she kept out teeth healthy). What merit would you say oil pulling does have?
Kanzar ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:39:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen or heard of any negative effects other than cost and time invested, but I haven't seen any scientific evidence promoting it either. It's just a fad near as I can tell.
My university town, touted as one of the smartest in the country, voted to remove fluoride from the tap water because of a stupid fear campaign/chain email. sigh
Growing up there was no fluoride in our tap water so our mum gave us fluoride tablets. Every time I went to see a dental nurse they would remark "oh you must have had fluoride tablets growing up" because of the noticeable positive difference it makes.
I have a friend who honest to god believes that the floruide in tap water can cause your pituitary gland to calcify and become a rock. I gave up trying to explain to her that isnt how it works.
Gwuc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't wiggle out your permanent teeth just because the tooth fairy will give you money.
Wasn't a permanent one, but when I lost a tooth, my younger sister remembered that last time it happened I got money, so she decided to cash in by pulling a baby tooth that wasn't actually loose. The bathroom was the worst bloodbath ever that hasn't actually accompanied a murder. I have no idea how a child her size (she was four or five) got blood so far up the walls and mirror.
Question for the dentist: how can you tell if someone grew up drinking fluoride in their water? Dentists always know I'm not local within seconds of me opening my mouth because of the "fluoride signs".
They often have something of a glow to them that "unfluoridated teeth" don't have.. they usually seem a bit more opaque, with a slight pearlescent quality... it's hard to describe until you stare at teeth all day, and even then, we can't always tell.
I had a dentist tell me using fluoride was a scam and he did not use any. He also told me there was none in the cities water , there is. Because it does not help anything. Hoped right out of there. He also said I had a cavity after never having one in my life.
I worked retail pharmacy. We had a family that would come in and the youngest (I would say under age 2) would have Mt Dew in a baby bottle.
eggpl4nt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't brush cavities away with toothpaste
When I was a kid up until I was in high school I believed this. Because the only education I had on the matter was some stupid "sugar bugs" pamphlet I got from the dentist when I was maybe eight, and I thought the sugar bugs were cavities (they actually were supposed to be plaque.)
I asked the hygienist "So if I brush my teeth, the sugar bugs will go away?"
"Yep!"
"Okay!"
Cue thought process that I only have to brush my teeth when there's cavities, low income family not going to the dentist for years, then finally going, and bam - I had ten cavities. Fun.
When I was 7, my dentist convinced me that if I swallowed the mouth wash he gave me, the fluoride would kill me in a very painful death. After accidently swallowing some of it, I spent the next ten minutes freaking out my impending doom. I ended up fainting for the panic. When I woke up, my mom consoled me and told me the truth. Needless to say, we didn't go back to that dentist.
Don't put your kids to bed with a bottle with Coke in it.
Or apple juice.
Source: my front baby teeth literally grew in rotten, I got them pulled when I was a toddler, grew up without front teeth, then had braces for 3 years trying to fix how insanely crooked they were since they didn't have any "guidance."
sdzw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does oil pulling actually do anything? Products like cocowhite usually get high marks for whitening but it comes off as homeopathic garbage.
nereik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of my kids have nursed to sleep for the first year. The first ones, no problems. My last little guy, I took him to the dentist to inquire about the brown rings on his two front teeth. I was super sad to hear that it was a form of decay that will be visible until the teeth fall out. :( I'm very pro-breastfeeding for the first year, but now I'm kinda annoyed that I never read or heard about it (potentially) causing tooth decay. I knew going to bed with a bottle of sugary stuff was bad, but for some reason it never clicked that nursing to sleep was the same thing!
Jolsen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a reoccurring nightmare that my teeth wiggle and fall out. It's absolutely terrifying.
5. Some group in my town wanted the city to stop putting fluoride in the drinking water. Talk radio station had a dentist come on to talk about it and answer questions. People calling in talking about the Gov used fluoride for mind control, it was a sedative the Gov was using it keep us in line, and it caused cancer or illness.
The Dentist went over and over that it wasn't true as a sedative or mind control. That taken in the very small amounts that it was put in drinking water it was safe. People kept calling and going on and on about it causing cancer and he went over it again and again about it was safe and people don't drink it by the gallon.
He couldn't seem to get that across to them. You could almost hear him slapping his hand on his forehead.
fritopie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't put your kids to bed with a bottle with Coke in it. (They then switched to Diet Coke).. facepalm
Yeesh. That's third world country shit right there. I've been along on a couple of medical mission trips and that was a common thing there for people to put their babies to bed with a bottle full of Fanta. But usually once it was explained to them what it was doing or could do to their baby, they seemed very serious about making a change and kicking that habit to the curb or filling it with water instead.
Interestingly enough, they were foreigners.. good call.
medinerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My biggest fear is losing my permanent teeth. I think when that happens I'm going to have to check myself into a mental institution. I don't count wisdom teeth though. Fuck them bitches.
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened when you told them he would never have those permanent teeth ever again? I am having a complete processing failure over this one, as it seems.
He lost his baby teeth, then he pulled his permanent teeth.... you don't get a third set of teeth.
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I totally get that part of course. But if I knew I lost permanent ones I would freak out and lose my cool. So I was curious how they reacted when you told them how bad it was going to be.
The part about putting kids to bed with a bottle of coke hurts my soul. Like. WHY.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't brush cavities away with toothpaste or any of these new Internet fads (oil pulling, honey, chocolate) once your cavity is deep enough it needs to be fixed by a dentist.
I'm an avid reader of r/justnomil and one grandma destroyed a toddler's teeth because she let him nap with a bottle of juice. They got lucky they could cap everything instead of having to get tiny dentures.
You've seen parents that believe in the tooth fairy?
Nixie9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fluoride isn't poison any more than table salt is poison. Small quantities are good for you. Anyone who tells you otherwise has been lied to and believed it.
I have Fluorosis from a normal exposure of fluoride, apparently some of us are a lot more sensitive to it than others.
PERMANENT teeth should stay in permanently.. with a few exceptions (wisdom teeth, supernumerary teeth, orthodontic extractions).. this little guy (8years old) had wiggled out 4 permanent lower incisors because his stupid family gave him so much money per tooth.
Fluoride isn't poison any more than table salt is poison. Small quantities are good for you.
Yeah but my Midwestern raised baby boomer in-laws believe that salt is extraordinarily unhealthy. I don't even want to know what they think about water supply fluoridation.
To people's credit, most people will struggle to tell the difference between Fluorine and Fluoride. One letter makes the change from deadly dangerous to completely harmless.
myhipsi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fluoride isn't poison any more than table salt is poison. Small quantities are good for you. Anyone who tells you otherwise has been lied to and believed it.
Sodium fluoride is, in fact, poisonous in doses much lower than table salt. Also fluoride is good for your teeth but is not really meant to be ingested. Brushing your teeth frequently and properly with fluoride toothpaste is much more efficient and healthy than just swallowing fluoride dissolved in water.
No5 might be due to that one episode of csi where the lady poisons herself by eating two tubes of high fluoride toothpaste
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with the fluoride is when you live in the country and have well water that lacks fluoride, so as a kid, your parents give you these little pink tablets that taste good and at some point, you get just tall enough to climb up on the counter to get to the medicine cabinet without understanding that eating a lot of the tablets is bad.
wagashi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are your thoughts on NovaMin?
DctrTnT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly never knew breast milk gives you cavities, never really thought about it. But then again maybe because I didn't need breastmilk by the time I was teething
I had a 20-something-year-old patient that came into the community OB-GYN clinic and was found to have chlamydia and gonorrhea infection. I looked in her chart, and she had been treated already for both in the past numerous times. And, looks like she had gotten pregnant and had a kid. I had the "condom's prevent PREGNANCY AND STDS talk" with her. Apparently no one had ever told her that before, she had no idea. Made me realize community health is a huge problem, especially in low socioeconomic areas.
Yes, but there comes a point most people can't get past without help. For example if you were to take antibiotics 100 years into the past, the doctors then would be able to appreciate and learn from them. If you were 1000 years ago, they wouldn't even know what bacteria were. There is a certain level of base knowledge that far too many people are missing
My mother is a doctor. She once told me this story about a patient she had (she serves low income people, so typically immigrants/minorities, usually without health insurance). The man is from Central America and is there for a normal check up. Typical of most patients, he has fairly high blood pressure. However, this man is also having bowel problems. So my mother asks, "What color and consistency is your feces when you need to use the bathroom?" The man has no idea what she's talking about. My mom tries again: "Your poop. What color and/or consistency is it typically?" The man still has no clue what she's saying (he understands a bit of english). She tries again. "Your doo doo." Nothing. "Your fecal matter." Nothing. "Your poo." Nothing. "Not number one, but number two." Nothing. Finally she asks, "It's not liquid when it comes out, but its more solid, you know?" The man has an epiphany. "Ohh, you mean shit!" he says. "Yes, your shit." So my highly educated, professional mother has to continue the rest of the checkup asking about his shit. "What color is your shit?" "Is it more wet?" "Does it hurt when you take a shit?"
This went on for a fair amount of time. My mom nearly burst out laughing by the end of it. Absolutely amazing what a minor language barrier can do ...
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 1969 points ยท Posted at 22:08:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to imagine she ended the visit by saying "Well, your shit's all fucked up, I recommend such and such."
[deleted] ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 22:41:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have been on the other end of that. When I was living in Kuwait a few years ago I cam down with a severe case of testicle pain. I went to the hospital and found a urologist who explained it was probably epididymitis (it was). He scribbled something out on a piece of paper and told me he wants an ultrasound of my junk just to make sure.
So I take the paper and go down to the basement where the ultrasound is, run by an elderly Arabic man who didn't appear to speak any English. I gave him the papers and through hand gestures he directed me to drop trou and hop up on the table. He smeared some gel on my sac and started doing the ultrasound.
I thought everything was going fine until a few seconds in when he said something to me an Arabic. I told him I didn't understand. He repeated it, I shook my head. He started poking my stomach and repeating the word over and over. Finally, when he saw that wasn't making progress, he sighed and said, "Like poop, but no poop."
That's when I understood he wanted me to clench my abdominal muscles so he could check for a hernia.
Not even remotely medical, but I burst out laughing in a similar situation. I was testifying in a criminal case in a court.
The judge made me remember and repeat all the vulgarities the perpetrator had said to me in order to extort me. She thereafter repeated everything to the protocol.
Imagine a forty-something woman, dressed in traditional judge garments, repeating very offensive language to the very young female intern taking the notes. I almost broke there.
OkieVT ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:25:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a veterinary clinic and we had a patient with some dermatitis around her vulva. So we sent home some wipes with a drug label that said to wipe around the vulva x times a day. The owner came back in a few days later amd said she didn't understand where she was supposed to wipe. The doctor explains it and she says Oh! The twat! I would have known if you said that!
So he makes a new prescription label that says twat....
My grandfather used to tell a story about this Polish immigrant that he worked with. The guy learned English on a loading dock, and one day my grandfather invited him over for dinner with his family. He was sitting at the table with my 8 year old dad and his 5 year old brother interspersing "fuck" every third word or so, because that's how it's done on the docks.
I'm a doctor and this isn't that unusual. Especially for things related to bodily functions and genitalia the start of your visit is usually defining terms and figuring out which words the patient uses.
I would've thought "poo poo" was a universal term!
chanaleh ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:35:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, but caca is. Eeeeverybody knows caca. Except English speakers.
Konosa ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:29:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a similar situation in China. I was visiting the panda center in Chengdu with a bunch of other students. We were getting a lecture from the head researcher, a Chinese woman who spoke impeccable English. She had a wide vocabulary for scientific terms, but forgot some basic body words like "butt". So, she described in explicit detail how to massage a panda's "ass" for reproductive purposes.
Profanity is some of the easiest words to learn in day to day conversation. They are short words that don't normally change with different parts of speech and are said all the time
Reminds me of my German (Mennonite, i.e. immigrated through Russia) grandparents. I'm told that shit was their word for shit. The were farmers, cows shit, chickens shit, and people do too. German doesn't have low/high terms for shit: scheisse is their word for it, and it comes from the same word shit does. It only makes sense to use the familiar and literal translation for it. This is especially true since Germany doesn't have the (I would argue unnatural) stigma against poop that Americans do. (Citation needed?)
English is fucking weird. We have scales of "decorum" and properness than come from the devide the Normans forced on the Angles. French was high class and proper. English was low and vulgar (c.f. read the definition of vulgar in the sense of the vulgate Bible.)
Reminds me of my German (Mennonite, i.e. immigrated through Russia) grandparents. I'm told that shit was their word for shit. The were farmers, cows shit, chickens shit, and people do too. German doesn't have low/high terms for shit: scheisse is their word for it, and it comes from the same word shit does. It only makes sense to use the familiar and literal translation for it. This is especially true since Germany doesn't have the (I would argue unnatural) stigma against poop that Americans do. (Citation needed?)
nomad_kk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:08:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's cool your mother finds the language barrier problems amusing and not annoying. Most people would get irritated at someone who doesn't speak their language in their country.
We are very tolerant in my area, and the simple fact of the matter is that these people are coming from places MUCH worse than we are now. The least we can do is show a bit of kindness.
I've noticed a lot of people who don't speak much English seem to think the word "shit" is more acceptable than it is. I've often wondered if it's taught more as slang than a curse word.
I'm an American living in Singapore and here "shit" is a pretty innocent word... I've heard 5 year old kids say it as if it's the same as saying poo or poop....
Where my relative lives in Africa, "shit" is the term that they use as both the verb and the noun. It is not considered an expletive. School children use it when talking to parents/teachers. It's funny to our ears to hear coming from a small child though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother gave birth to my brother and I using a local midwife/doctor in Hameln, Germany. My father was stationed there (originally from US). The doctor spoke English decently, but apparently he only knew the curse words for some important words. For example, he once told her to scoot her ass toward him for an exam, and once referred to her vagina as a pussy. He was a good doctor otherwise.
nolo_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must say things
Like "micturate", "defecate", "intercourse"
You can't say things
Like "pissing" and "shitting" and "fuck"
Although they're the same
Although it's a pain
You've got to use the Latin name
I worked as a corrections officer for 26 years. I once had a Mexican inmate come up and ask me for "soup". I was confused because we don't hand out soup on the housing units so, I replied, "Soup?". "Si! Soup!" I shake my head because I'm still confused trying to figure out what he was wanting. "Soup???". "Si! Soup!!!" and he makes a washing motion with his right hand under his left armpit. "Soup!" Then it dawns on me, "SOAP!!!". "SI!!! SOAP!!!". So, I hand him a bar of soap so he can take a shower.
My dad saw this happen in reverse. It was at a hospital too & he knew this worker was going about to laid off. So after they came out of the meeting dad asked what happened & the worker got a raise. The worker said they got a raise. This made my dad even more curious.
What did you & the supervisors talk about he asked?
Well, they discussed something about termination, but the worker didn't know what that was, so instead asked for a raise. My dad then finally explained to the worker that termination meant fired, they finally understood!
This is actually really common! Reproductive anatomy isn't one of the first things that non-native speakers pick up on... I remember being really surprised while helping out at a clinic in Afghanistan and hearing the interpreters always say "cock" instead of penis.
Reminds me of when I was an intern at the VA. I needed to do a rectal exam on a patient. I told him I needed to examine his "bottom" and he had no idea what I meant. Kept using different terms, including rectum, when finally the lightbulb goes on and he asks, "Oh, you mean my asshole?"
Obligatory not me but my wife. She's a nurse practitioner and had to explain to a 40 year old man that brown sugar did, in fact, contain sugar and that is most likely the reason why he now has diabetes. The same man also adamantly insisted his wine consumption was not an issue because he "only drank the dry stuff like chianti so it doesn't have any sugar."
When my FIL was diagnosed with prostate cancer, he decided to deal with it by going vegan instead of getting actual treatment. He also "cut out all sugar" going as far as refusing to eat corn because of the high sugar content as "the cancer feeds off of sugar".
The kicker was that he was a raging alcoholic and would drink 2-3 1.5liter bottles of white wine a day.
Refused to believe that white wine is full of sugar because "it doesn't taste sweet".
Smdh
SanshaXII ยท 1437 points ยท Posted at 20:55:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A conversation I recently had with my oncologist:
"Is it true that cancer cells feed on sugar?"
"... all cells feed on sugar."
"But is it going to affect my relapse chance?"
"Oh, goodness no. A normal amount of sugar or fat in your diet isn't going to give any residual cancer cells the 'boost' they need to reestablish, nor is any tumor going to grow, or not grow from lack of sugar."
I distinctly remember reading a medical journal post on reddit saying that they found that a high sugar/fat diet does show some increase in the cancer spreading.
Right, but ketosis is not a consideration here, because the diet that showed some incidence of cancer spreading is a high SUGAR, high fat. So your body would never even begin to attempt to enter ketosis, because there's plenty of sugar to convert om nom nom.
To be fair, "high sugar high fat" is not a commonly used phrase in the diet world, because it's a fucking horrible idea. Half awake browsing will get you everytime! :)
I read the above backwards... Thought it said low sugar inhibits cancer.
Leftberg ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:29:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See, this is why the Internet is dumb.
See that "IIRC?" He doesn't recall correctly.
The keto diet does not cause cancer. As always, talk to your doctor when you have medical questions.
Rpizza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the above backwards... Thought it said low sugar inhibits cancer.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should edit your comment, a ton of people are thinking you mean ketosis causes cancer (it's actually the other way around, it lowers risk of cancer)
I've definitely seen articles that link diet to cancer. I heard recently (in a new scientist article) that cancer cells mainly metabolise sugar and not much else, so it would seem there's perhaps a link there.
As u/SanshaXII said though, I suppose a "normal" amount wouldn't have much of an impact.
[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:24:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The brain and heart can use ketones for fuel. And the liver will just straight out make the glucose the other organs need. Ketogenic diets are still being studied in relationship to their affect on cancer.
Oh, and some cancers can metabolize ketones and lactate like the brain does.
Those organs can function through glucose produced by gluconeogenesis. However I have no idea if the cancerous tumour would take priority, however evidence suggests that cutting all goods with a medium/high GI can reduce incidences of cancer.
Cancer is, by definition, uncontrolled cell growth. Cells need energy to grow. Those growing faster need more energy, and any easily available excess energy (like sugar) is going to "benefit" them disproportionately. This is part of why cancer and diabetes have a significant correlation.
So yeah, if you get cancer you'd better eat healthy.
If I remember correctly, cancer cells generally have a higher metabolic rate? And that's why this notion about "feeding it sugar" exists. Shutting down your sugar intake when you have cancer could maybe slow down the cancer's growth rate.
Just because cancer cells have a higher metabolic rate doesn't mean that the cells grow faster on sugar.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
May be from just a general worse health than people with a normal-to-lower sugar/fat diet, which leads to a worse immune response.
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comes down, if it's true, to what the word "statistically significant " means. It's very common for articles to find measurable differences that have almost no practical impact. And to find things that have practical impact you can't prove. So when reading articles you have to very carefully validate that the described impact of something is actually meaningful or not on a practical level. Staying well fed and at a healthy weight with some exercise will have exponentially more impact on survival of diseases than some magical specific wonder diet. Unless you've got something like diabetes which is triggered by very specific metabolic factors.
But most diseases with such obvious causes have already been figured out and documented in the 1700s through the 1950s because the causes and effects are much simpler and more directly connected.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 23:57:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS. One of my oldest friends has cancer and the last time I hung out with her, she told me she had recently seen a documentary saying that cancer likes sugar. She has a sweet tooth and enjoys donuts, but is not obese and has always had a generally good diet and been very fit. I wanted to hunt down whoever made that goddamn documentary and punch them in both eyes and the mouth for making her feel like it was her fault she had fucking CANCER for eating a goddamn cookie once in a while.
Eating sugar can have strange effects on the body. For example it can make you age slightly faster through production of AGE molecules (these make you feel stiff as you age and are a by product of glucose metabolism), it can also cause an increase in Reactive Oxygen Species which CAN (albeit very unlikely) cause cancer due to mutations, on top of that sugar directly fuels cancer cells, other cells can use different fuels if you don't eat any sugar (including sugars from bread, pasta, rice, grains, etc.) at all.
The odds of anything she ate having caused the cancer are astronomical, especially if she is young, however by cutting all sugars (including carbs) there is evidence to show it can slow down the advance of some cancers.
Watches a documentary that informs you cancer uses sugar.
I WANT TO HURT THE MAKER OF THE DOCUMENTARY BECAUSE THEY MADE MY FRIEND FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR HER CANCER!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:32:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) I didn't watch the documentary, my friend did.
2) Your characterization of it makes it sound like objective, dry scientific information. As the poster said above, ALL cells use sugar. Making a film saying that cancer, specifically, likes sugar is trying to give the impression that eating sweets causes cancer.
3) My friend has had cancer several times beginning in childhood. She is most definitely not responsible.
So yeah, it pissed me off when someone tries to make her feel as if it's her fault.
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and that now a simple pleasure she has is taken from her by fear
Well if you eliminate all sugars from the diet and everything that the body and readily process into sugars you will never get cancer for as long as you live. So like a month or two tops.
The problem is that bullshit pseudoscience alternative healing sites like Mercola often tout the "cancer uses sugar" claim without any context.
Gravesh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best of luck to you, stranger! Glad to hear that you kicked cancer's ass! Hopefully it'll continue to fuck right off and stay that way. Horrible illness.
My MIL has terminal colon, bone marrow, and breast cancer (yes, all at once). My FIL passed away in 2015 from a very aggressive form of leukemia.
She refuses to accept that she's terminal or that she needs treatment, and has instead decided that she'll go organic and vegan everything.
Yep. That'll cure ya. Flaxseed oil. Uh huh, that's why Dad died. Because he didn't drink enough. (No, really. This is what comes out of her mouth.)
No, I'm not going to mix paprika, cinnamon, and coconut oil to "cure" my epilepsy. There is no cure. Yes, you're right. It's the sugar in my creamer that's making it worse. Not the screwy neurological system or anything. NOOOPE.
It's a bit more complex. The issue is that many cancer cells have damaged/dysfunctional mitochondria. Without functional mitochondria, a cell does not have the ability to burn fat as a fuel, but can still burn sugar via glycolysis. This is the Warburg effect, whereby many cancer cells thus primarily rely on carbs as a fuel. There are many clinical trials currently underway that employ this low carb, high fat, ketogenic approach. Data at this time seems to indicate that it is effective as an adjunct to chemo. Some of the major data is coming out of Phoenix Arizona at this time.
So yes, there is truth to this notion that "cancer runs on sugar", but a really low carb approach still needs to be combined with other modern treatments at this time.
Western medical doctors recieve about an hour of training in nutrition. Wealthy interests (Rockefellers and Rothschilds) systematically bought control of nearly all the American medical schools and medical journals to ensure that 'patent medicine' (i.e., that made in a chemistry lab) was the only type used in America. (because they owned the chemistry labs)
When I was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago my Dad started "researching" and had a list of various things he had seen on the internet. One of them was cancer cells feeding on sugar, to which I explained that ALL cells need sugar and it doesn't matter what type of sugar you eat it all gets converted into glucose.
He also seemed to think that cancer liked acidic blood and that I needed to alkalise it by eating certain food. I then explained that the body's pH levels should not be messed with and that if you changed the pH of your stomach fluid you'd die.
if you changed the pH of your stomach fluid you'd die
So in order to live, I need to only consume hydrochloric acid?
Costco1L ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:54:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wine really doesn't have much sugar in it. One glass contains on 2 to 4 grams of carbs. Alcohol itself is not a carbohydrate, though it is made from carbohydrates.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:51:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. It's even relatively safe for someone on keto. To screw it up you'd have to be drinking like... 2-3 1.5liter bottles a day.
shaggy99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch "sugar, the bitter truth" warning, IIRC it runs over an hour, and is pretty dense technically. TL:DW sugar and alcohol, any type sugar or alcohol, has the same affect when you eat or drink too much of it, it forms fatty deposits around the mid section, and is bad from a health point of view.
I mean, isn't eating or drinking too much of anything bad from a health point of view? I think that's the definition of "too much" when it comes to food and drink...
shaggy99 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:11:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but the mechanism that deals with fructose and ethanol are very similar, and has a worse result that other forms of calories. The general direction of his argument is that the low fat craze was started by some bad studies, and following that low fat dictum has resulted in a high sugar movement instead. You take the fat out, a lot of processed foods taste like crap, so you put sugars in instead, and end up with an even more unhealthy product. I think his general recommendation is to watch total calorie consumption, and to avoid processed foods where you can.
Too much of anything is bad, yes. But when the experts tell you that should have more than half a pound of sugar a day (454g in a pound, 300g is the recommended daily intake), something might be a bit fucky.
Costco1L ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:25:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look, that's just not true. Alcohol is fundamentally different in how your body reacts to it and processes it. For instance, carbs contain 4 calories per gram, alcohol has 7. They also have completely different effects on insulin.
shaggy99 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:41:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did I say anything about that? Watch the video, I don't have the education this guy has. My take away from it was that eating too much sugar, or drinking too much alcohol, deposits fat through the same mechanism. It's been a while, but my memory of it is that it is the excess caloric content when you eat or drink too much booze or sugars, that brings in this pathway. For myself, it was the fact that fat is not the evil that most people think it is that stuck with me.
I may be misremembering the details, still think it is an educational video.
Well of course alcohol has calories, but that is immaterial as it's not metabolised through a pathway tumourous cells can use. In that, it's just like fat.
shaggy99 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I was specifically responding to the post immediately above mine, which may not have made my point terribly relevant to the general discussion going on here. I was not really thinking about cancer cells, more about the end result of eating too much sugar, or drinking too much alcohol being the same, i.e. fat around your middle.
It must be assumed that /u/Costco1L was talking about cancer because that's what their parent, /u/1nquiringMindswas talking about. No one wrote anything about the caloric value of alcohol the entire comment tree up from you.
shaggy99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that's what I meant when I said my point was not that relevant to the general discussion. Sorry for going off at a tangent.
At a grocery store/department store I worked at in high school, every Tuesday old folks from assisted living would come into buy their groceries. There was one guy on a scooter who's feet were basically falling off because of diabetes (some of the ladies liked to chat with us). They would normally get like 2 hours, so in that time he would eat a box or two donuts from the bakery. We would see him driving around hoovering them down. Eventually a nurse would come in with him because it got so bad.
Oh man. Vegetarian here who would go vegan if I got cancer. You don't do that instead of treatment but alongside it.
I don't understand why you would refuse treatment.
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair modest drinking of very dry wine has very very little sugar compared to corn or sweeter wine
griffton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "cutting out all sugar" part's not a bad idea. If you manage to shift away from carbs enough to kick yourself into ketogenic metabolism, it has been shown to have some effect on cancer.
I have no idea about prostate cancer, but brain tumours HAVE been shown to stop growing and in some cases even recede simply by cutting out all carbs from your diet. This is because the tumours need glucose to grow, and cutting out carbs switches your body from using glucose to ketone bodies as fuel.
Obviously though doctor first, and get some real treatment.
Right, but that's not the problem with his logic, is it? The problem is "no I absolutely can't eat that salsa that has some corn in it, but lemme drink ~3-5 liters of wine a day."
A family friend had breast cancer and actually a good prognosis but she insisted that she would not follow "orthodox medicine" but rather trust some kind of esoteric faith healer and change her diet. She died from this shit in the end.
It was a main reason why I became a sceptic and have zero tolerance for esoteric bullshit.
Not so her husband. He married an even bigger esoteric, who is much into crystal healing.
Wow. Just yesterday my dad and I were laughing at an article in a magazine which listed some of the names sugars in food could be 'hiding' behind. I was expecting a list like dextrose, fructose, etc. The list was actually: brown sugar, raw sugar, coconut sugar... Essentially everything had the word sugar in it.
Turns out some people do actually need this pointed out to them...Go figure.
McStaken ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:26:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tell me again sir why your toes can't possibly be rotting off?"
generally you can avoid being redundant by reading beyond the first line of a comment.
you can avoid repeating a point someone made by reading the entire comment.
and because i'm saucy: alcohol doesn't give you diabetes. it gets you intoxicated. long-term exposure to alcohol, however, has a lot of health consequences, one of which can be diabetes(if you're at risk), due to the long-term blood chemical imbalances.
Wine does have a surprisingly low sugar content though. It's something like 4g of carbs/glass. With ~1g of that being actual sugar. I don't know how much diabetics are allowed, but he was at least partially right about that one.
I had to explain to my boss at subway that the white bread sub buns DO have wheat in them. he told a customer that was gluten intolerant that the bread wasn't made with wheat. I asked him what he thought it was made of then. he just kind of sheepishly said 'I dunno'. still, the lady with celiac should have known.
Diabetic patients are the most stubborn. We treat a lot of diabetics, and many of them just don't care about changing their diet at all. Then, one of them has have a leg amputated and he complains that his home nurse didn't change the bandages properly ... it was definitely not because he drinks too much and eats horribly
Rpizza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well dry red wine has very little sugar 2-3 grams as opposed to other sweeter wines that have 12-19 grams of sugar
tipsana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister just spent her holidays with her SIL who required her to cook all meals without sugar, because she's trying to live sugar-free, but went through 2 bottles of wine each night.
There are Registered Nurses and Nurse Practitioners. Both administer care to patients, but nurse practitioners (NPs) are required to have more technical education, and therefore can perform some medical procedures.
Well, in his defense, consuming sugar doesn't directly cause type 2 diabetes. Genetics, coupled with environmental factors and poor lifestyle(such as obesity) combine to cause insulin resistance, which can lead to type 2 diabetes.
Of course, weight gain is caused by over consumption of carbohydrates...
I'm not a doctor but I remember my friend telling me about this woman, in college, who could not grasp the fact that having unprotected sex while pregnant does not get the fetus pregnant.
Aaaaaactually.... As unlikely as it seems, pregnant babies have happened before. How it happens, is a mystery to medicine by the articles I've read however the theory is that within 13 weeks, after gender is decided, ovaries are already capable of taking on sperm and becoming fertilized.
A baby born in Hong Kong was pregnant with her own siblings at the time of her birth, according to a new report of the infant's case.
The baby's condition, known as fetus-in-fetu, is incredibly rare, occurring in only about 1 in every 500,000 births. It's not clear exactly why it happens.
This is far more likely to be a case of a dermoid cyst or a twin pregnancy gone wrong than an actual pregnant fetus. Eggs don't develop and release from ovaries until puberty. Among other problems with this idea.
I thought you might be one of the nitwits who use that excuse when Wikipedia disagrees with you, which is why I didn't link to it and included 'or something' in there. The scientific article that is the second result there talking about it being when one twin is inside the other is probably more reliable though, if you had taken 3 seconds to try not being wrong.
Also, I encourage you to read this article about a study by Nature, a peer reviewed scientific journal, on the reliability of Wikipedia vs The Encyclopedia Britannica that concluded, through peer review, that they are approximately equal. While you can dispute the reliability of any individual source, all sources are fallible and it's unreliability all the way down.
Edit: Although, based on you actually referencing it yourself I'm guessing you know that already and you are just a troll.
Fetus-in-fetu is a thing, but it's not the baby getting pregnant! What happens is, there was supposed to be identical twins, but one was wrapped up in the other. It's more of an internal parasitic twin. It's not a pregnancy. For heaven's sake, boys have been found to have fetus-in-fetu.
Not a doctor, but a pre-pharm student. But I once had a really bad stomachache, so my dad grab that Asian green oil stuff that smells like menthol and start rubbing my abdomen violently with the stuff. I adamantly suggested that we should hit the ER because I might have appendicitis, then I finally found out that neither mom or dad knows what an appendix is. Then they argue with me that no such thing exist and insisted on using their method. Obviously it didn't worked and my appendix exploded. Fun times.
Lequanta ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arg feels bad when you have the knowledge but nobody believes you
norsish ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, man...you really don't want your appendix to explode. You should try to avoid that in the future. I mean, assuming they exist. I still think you might be making it all up.
Siannath ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened when your appendix exploded? How old were you?
Not a doctor but still this gem from a client: "cancer and HIV are caused by allergic reactions to things around you, so drink bentonite clay everyday and your body will purge itself of the allergens and you'll be cured".
I've never been more stunned. This woman was about 35 and has two kids. Yikes.
Correct. She also told me in detail about how vaccines pump aluminum and flouride into the blood stream which would lead to autism and seizures. She said as well that she won't vax because doctors can treat any disease anyway.
[deleted] ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 04:23:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors tried. It was called eugenics. We don't talk about that anymore.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:31:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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icer816 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 09:06:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like the percentage of vaccinated people with autism is about the same as the percentage of unvaccinated people with autism! People seem to not get that and, even if it was causation (not even correlation, let's say vaccines could cause autism), I'd rather have an autistic child who is alive than a dead child that died from not being vaccinated.
THANK YOU. A lot of people point out how fucked up it is that parents would literally rstwhr their kids die from something completely preventable than POSSIBLY have an autistic kid. There's just so many levels of WTF with anti Vaxers.
Does it not occur to people like her that, if vaccines are so harmful, it sure is weird that the vast majority of the vaccinated public do not have autism or seizures?
SquidCap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:10:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. There are several things in action at the same time. One of the largest is our fear of making an active decision, instead of passive one.. Meaning, not doing something means you will not fail at that task; doing something means you take the responsibility of your actions also if they fail. On passive decision, you don't literally do anything and if something happens, it happened regardless of your actions... Notice how close this line of thinking goes with this kind of people who don't believe in other active decisions like climate change, where activity means taking economical risk, changing your own habits in on an off chance we may be able to carry on as a species.
Add misinformation, poor education and general conspiracy mentality (where almost everything is out of your hands, there is some secret all powerful thing you have no power to fight them as they are literally all around you..).. It is a swamp of denial, fallacies, complex mental issues, faith and circular logic rolled into one neat ball. Facts that contradict, such as the percentage of people with and without that treatment only makes them believe more (also, frankly, these people do not understand that 3 out 100 is more than 10 out of 1000, percentages mean nothing to them. They've read dozens of cherry picked statistics along with credible ones and see no difference; they simply do not understand but pretend they do and will NOT admit they have no clue about it.. By large majority, just really, really dumb and do not want to get any wiser. That last part makes me steam out of my ears, it is ok to not know but it is not ok to refuse to learn.
I have met a few people like this. Some people just seem to lack certain neuronal wirings in the brain that make them eat any conspiracy theory like candy. "Evil doctors and big pharma have an interest in keeping you sick, but check out this quackery I discovered."
"They take alex jones dna supplements everyday so im sure its just as good" /s
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:58:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told by someone at work that cancer is caused by thinking about cancer too much, which is why, for instance, you shouldn't get cancer screenings (this person had just read The Secret).
This was about two months after I'd finished chemo, and I'd been wearing a very expensive wig to hide treatment from a lot of people. 1) that wig was worth every penny and 2) I have a darn good poker face
I was raised on that kind of bullshit man, I can't tell you how much hate I have towards that kind of stuff. But it's good to see normal people calling it out for exactly what it is.
lol I see what you did there haha. And no, she gets her info from those click bait conspiracy websites about medical stuff so she told me that everything I know is a lie
I put that shit on my face for Patrick Bateman level skincare reasons. Who in their right mind would willingly ingest something that basic? That shit has a PH level SATP of 9, you should not ingest something that is so alkaline everyday. Drinking bentonite clay is like drinking a baking soda smoothie. What the hell is she thinking?
One of my university tutors had to explain how sex worked to a married couple.
They had come into the clinic wondering why they hadn't fallen pregnant after like 12 months of marriage. The doctor asked the usual questions about menstruation, erections, etc, and the patients' responses were a bit weird. Finally she was like, "you are having vaginal sex, yeah?"
The couple were really confused. The doctor literally had to explain that one partner needs to put their penis in the other's vagina and ejaculate, in order to even try at getting pregnant. Apparently they were so shocked! They thought pregnancy just happened by itself after marriage.
Well to be fair we wouldn't ever hear about the ones where one partner knows and is able to explain it to the confused one. I bet there are a lot more of those out there.
Seriously. It's programmed in our DNA how to fuck. As soon as I knew women had vaginas I figured out that sex was the penis going into the vagina. When I finally masturbated and ejaculated I quickly put the math together on how sex works.
You have to be FORCED to not know what sex is to be THAT ignorant.
And you do that by convincing people that sex is bad, dirty, dangerous, and if you do it, you will never be forgiven, you won't go to heaven, and nobody decent will ever want you. You jack up the shame and guilt to 11 and collect the tithing. $$ Profit!
On the flip side - I feel like they both would have been in for lovely surprise when they finally got around to completing that strange alien voodoo ritual.
dragon34 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:43:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe eventually, but if they hadn't figured it out in a year, they were probably not even making out and I bet it was TERRIBLE, and probably super painful for the wife.
Lack of sex ed is so depressing. Don't blame this couple for their ignorance, it is completely on their parents. And most likely a very conservatively religious upbringing.
I completely agree. I can't imagine how embarrassed they must have been, not to know something so simple and important. I hope they learn from their parents' mistakes, and give their kids comprehensive education about sex.
Our bodies are God's Miracle. If you are a good person, everything will be fine. If you do evil, or have evil thoughts, God will punish you. God will reveal his mystery to you if and when He feels you are ready. That's all you need to know.
Some people actually believe that. And they aren't bad people, they just don't know better. I'm sure /u/nipplequeen69 will have children well versed in sex ed. ;)
I love how the two greatest stereotypes for Mormons are that
they are such prudes that they don't know about sex
have as many children as they possibly can and many Mormon families rent a hotel room for newlyweds to use between the ceremony and reception so they can get started on procreating ASAP.
It's like the "All Mexicans are hard workers" and "All Mexicans are lazy" dichotomy. Fucking pick one
Delanium ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 00:02:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same stereotype for any incredibly religious group, I think. My cousins are Catholic, and I had to give my oldest cousin The Talk when she was 14 because her parents refused to talk about it. She even asked because she at least had a vague idea of the concept, and they told her to never talk about that again.
A year later, I had to expand on it when I realized she thought you only had sex once, on your wedding night, and that was that.
And then I had to expand on it more because she thought that birth control and abortion were the same thing. (Though that one was taught by her parents). I made sure to go over all aspects of the reproductive system that time.
In hindsight I should probably have been more thorough the first time, but I was only 15.
A lot of the same comments in your two points are also made about ultra-Orthodox Jews. Extreme prudes, keep the sexes separated in public, etc, etc, yet average family size is something like 7 or 9 kids.
Mormons in general are MORE educated than average for the country they live in. I have never met one, not even in HS, who didn't know at least that sex involved intercourse. Those that I have met come from places like boondocks-Central Mexico. The closest I ever came was an 18 year old girl who had never seen a penis, or even a picture and we had to draw for her the difference between circumcised and not.
There is a HELL of a lot of talk, within the church, about sex, what it is and isn't, when and where is appropriate, why it's so important to marriage, etc.....Mormons believe that sex is a reflection of God's power to create life, and that USING that ability appropriately (within marriage) brings us closer to God, and makes us more like God, which is the goal. It's not because they don't understand how it happens. They have so many kids literally because they do know, and think it's the right thing to do, and want to.
I'm sure exceptions exist, but Mormons are actually a little hung up on sex, they just believe that their version of "it" is the right one.
IronDBZ ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:38:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an inverse relationship between respect and sects
I'm talking 'bout religious sects like a Mormon sect
That says you can't have sex with members of different sects
But you can't have sex with members of the same sex
So if the sects can't be different, the sex can't be same
land8844 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 01:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You assume wrong. I am Mormon and was raised in UT (I sorely miss the mountains in my backyard. Here in NY, while nice, the Adirondacks barely count in my opinion), but my parents taught all 4 of us kids about sex early-on in a very practical manner. Including porn and masturbation. My dad even gave me the "she will bleed a little bit the first time" talk, and then went on to talk about his first time with my mom and how they had to call her mom because she bled... Yeah, not the kind of imagery that I wanted from my parents, but they were very loving and relatively open about this kind of stuff.
You should watch some of the talks by Jeffery R. Holland (one of the 12 Apostles in our church). He is also very open about this kind of stuff.
What nonsense. Bleeding is not something that happens to everyone. Or even most women who were active.
Hymens stretch. The can rip and tear, but for the most part it's a stretchy membrane.
GrumbIRK ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really nonsense though. It isn't uncommon for a virgin to bleed the first time, and I think that is good advice to give a child. Expecting that it could occur is way more comforting than not, and freaking out during sex when you pull out and there's blood.
iznotiz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't seem to realize that you're describing the very issue you're attempting to debunk.
You're right, but I'm not talking about abstinence-only, I'm talking about not teaching a kid about sex at all and actively sheltering them from learning anything about sex
Since your original comment was about stereotypes and NOT a particular situation, you shouldn't be surprised that people are giving board remarks about it.
Literally did not get the sex talk from my mom until I was 18 (a little too late, lost it at 16), but A for effort? Haha. I just don't think she knew how to approach the situation.
Edit: learned everything long before "the talk" from my friends. Thank goodness for helpful friends hahaha.
Married to a Mexican, they are both! He works hard at work, but at home I can't get him to do a damn thing! Been begging for him to clean the garage for weeks.
Most husbands know that work work needs to get done or they'll lose pay or get fired, but if wife work gets delayed... maybe we'll sleep on the couch or you'll burn dinner on purpose, but men like the couch and burned food.
You can have plenty of sex without knowing anything more than the absolute basics about it. The couple who thought "rubbers" meant rubber bands, for instance.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mormon here. I can see your point about Utah mormons, Utah culture is...different. But generally speaking, outside of Utah mormons are not like that. Aure, you'll see it here and there, but we're exposed to the same stuff at school, and in life, as anyone else. And educating your children properly is definitely important to Mormons.
I agree it happens but numerous guys I met who was not Mormon and found out that I was checking out the Lds Church made comments about how freaky Mormon girls are.
Crechum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mormon here. I was raised in a near 100% mormon town. We got taught sex ed in class like everyone else. Even got taught about sex by my mother, including birth control. It's not something we hide from our children. It's something we teach them to use responsibly.
Maybe! Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that there are just heaps of uninformed people out there.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:30:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a thing I was told when I was very, very young. How the fuck does someone go beyond the age of 12 or 13 without learning that ya gotta fuck to have a kid?
pretty sure this is the second mention of (hopefully the same incident) in this thread
pogra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so sad that this same story has come up multiple times in this thread. I don't know if I'm mad at the society that raised them or think they just aren't very bright. You HAVE to have picked up on sex at some point. Watch any movie or book or anything!
FWIW, Snopes claims that this is an urban legend, and cites a 2004 case that was incorrectly reported in the mainstream press.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read these stories and think "One person, I can understand, but the couple..."
ahchava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is way more common than it should be. I also have women of mariable age who think that once you have sex the one time, you can continue to get pregnant for years after, even if let's say your husband is deployed, or he died or you got divorced and haven't slept with anyone, ect. Basically that once his "seed" is in you, you can (and will) just spontaneously get pregnant with his children until you're too old to have kids.
Reminds me of that one couple in the TV show Masters of sex who were like "doctor, we must have some sort of infertility problems" and he was like "ok, what positions have you tried?" And they were like "we lie together every night, just like the bible says!" And he eventually got down to the fact that they would literally just lie down next to each other in bed and hope to get pregnant lol
Everyone has the right to be informed about their sexual/reproductive health. This couple were victims of a system which stigmatises sex to the point where basic education is considered controversial or "dirty". They did the right thing, by seeing a doctor to ask about their reproductive health.
Edgy comments like yours aren't very funny or helpful.
I heard about a woman who came into the ER with vaginal bleeding. When they took a peek up there, they found a number of small round white pills. She learned two things that day:
1) She was pregnant
2) Birth control works best when taken orally
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:25:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but worked in urgent care for a long time as a tech. Had a woman in her 30's come in for vaginal bleeding and and abd pain. She was afraid she was pregnant and having a miscarriage due to a single missed dosage of birth control. Bleeding x 2 days; cramping; negative HCG; no recent sexual activity. Last menstrual period approximately 4 weeks ago... it was her period.
Edit: spelling
A_Drusas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:51 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's sad for her ignorance and also because she probably had dysmenorrhea, which can be incredibly painful. Definitely painful enough for a person to think something's seriously wrong.
Not a doctor, but my human sexuality professor in grad school had some interesting stories. He worked a lot in very conservative Christian communities and so a lot of times people got married with no sex education. He had one couple who couldn't get pregnant. Turns out they thought sleeping together literally meant sleeping in the same bed. Another couple was in therapy because neither one of them enjoyed sex or ever had an orgasm. After having them talk through step by step what they did in bed, he learned the guy was just sticking it in and nothing else. He told the guy to move back and forth next time and see what happened. They couple came back one more time to say "THANK YOU!!!!!" and didn't need any more sessions.
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 7324 points ยท Posted at 21:32:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That second story is probably my favorite in the thread, thank you.
WJ90 ยท 1666 points ยท Posted at 23:56:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's kind of cute in a way. I could get down with just being inside my partner and holding them close.
Is this a thing? I am a former catholic and was taught that basically anything that was sexy was bad unless you are married, and then only baby making practices were allowed.
Not really, no; anal, oral, vaginal, handjobs, fingering, all of that's considered adultery. Basically if what you're doing is meant to give one or both of you an orgasm, it counts as sex.
This is also why masturbation, iirc, is considered adultery. That one never made sense to me.
I have a buddy at one of the big Mormon colleges in the US, and apparently it's something that kids talk about doing a lot. He said he's never done it but he knows a few people that claim to have done it.
I went to BYU. It was one of those things that people joked about, but nobody really believed it.
Castun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with joking about this shit, is that some too-sheltered person is guaranteed to come along and not realize it's a joke. The problem multiplies when more than 1 said person falls for it.
lenaro ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can't imagine any Mormons really think T-Rexes can only see movement. That would just be stupid.
My parents have friends from their Mormon church who legitimately believe that Jewish people place dinosaur bones as part of a satanic conspiracy. They say that because noone knows how to put the bones together you know it's all a hoax
The church still recognize it as sex and treats it as sex outside of marriage, this is just a common excuse a lot of the youth use to justify having sex with each other. I guess it's supposed to ease their conscience?
Definitely done this a few times. He once put his head on my shoulder to cuddle and we fell asleep that way without actually getting to the sex bit that night - one of my favorite memories.
Indosay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my fiancรฉe and I first started sleeping over, we'd do this sometimes. Well, sorta. We'd spoon with me behind her and inside her with totally just intending on staying that way (why? I dunno, because?) but of course that didn't last longer than a couple minutes ever.
Yeah, but what I don't really get about this is that people have been having sex for thousands and thousands of years without having to be educated about what it is. Hell, my cat never took a class, but when she went into heat she followed my roommate around for weeks with her butt in the air...
You think that's cute? To me, it's really sad people are becoming adults and not knowing basic functions of their bodies because their religion is restrictive.
istara ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 01:08:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember being quite mystified when I read the "Human Reproduction" chapter in Biology 11-13 that "the man moves his penis rhythmically in and out of the vagina".
WHY?!
I thought I knew everything about sex - we had all surreptitiously read Judy Blume's Forever and my mother was very open with me about sex and puberty - but somehow the guy actually moving it about had passed me by.
I was like 15 and a half when I found out girls can get pleasure from sex, and my mom has given me the sex talk like 5 different times, she had just assumed that I knew girls could orgasm. But nope I found that out by watching Laci Green videos when I was almost 16, after googling of girls could have orgasms, because a couple of my guy friends were bragging about how good they were at oral and I didn't believe them when they said girls could have orgasms (I'm female btw)...
I mean, not all churches are like that. The church I went to in late elementary school (living in North Carolina) specifically set aside two Sunday school sessions to teach us sex ed. And it wasn't from a biblical perspective. It was a real discussion where the boys could ask the male teacher anything we wanted and the girls asked the female teacher (his wife) anything they wanted.
The funniest question was when one of the kids asked him how many times he'd had sex. He looked like he thought about taking a guess and said, "I can't remember. At least three," the joke being that they had four kids and no twins.
jyetie ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:19:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome, props to that church. How old did Sunday School go up to?
That's like putting your hand on a hot stove and being too embarassed to lift it back up.
Rootner ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 01:28:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I let my foot get run over by a tractor after my grandpa said not to let it happen. He was parked on it for a good ten seconds. I didn't say anything to avoid the shame.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma stopped on my toe with her car once too. It didn't hurt at all except a little pressure, oddly, but my toe still aches in the cold to this day.
jyetie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:19:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and chances are there was no foreplay or anything, and without getting the woman aroused she might be pretty dry so it would be uncomfortable for both people.
Not sleeping until we die (normally attributed to gaming marathons)
Setting ourselves on fire, and making no effort to put it out (protests in some areas of the world; some funeral ceremonies where slaves/wives/other human possessions would follow an owner/husband into the afterlife).
[deleted] ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:43:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drive to reproduce isn't as strong as the drive to survive.
Religion controls sex by making spiritual survival as important or more important than physical survival. Then all you need to do is lay down some sex ground rules in which violation causes great or fatal spiritual harm. Add in some stoning or whatever to reinforce the idea, indoctrination from birth, plus exclusion or demonizing of opposing ideas, and voila, you have people ashamed of one of the most natural bodily functions.
Funny how God sends everyone who has sex to Hell, yet specifically made it so that having sex is the only natural way to reproduce.
Also convenient how artificial insemination is sinful because it's "playing God." It's like the church is determined to see the human race go extinct by reducing the birth rate down to 0.
There's a genetic disorder that kills people by not letting them sleep. I'm too lazy to google, so have at it. It was on a Real Stories YouTube video I watched.
This is quite different from what the OP mentioned:
Not sleeping until we die (normally attributed to gaming marathons)
It takes months for FFI to kill, apparently, and the victim is not continuously awake over that time -- they have some occasional brief sleep, it seems.
They also have something that looks sort of like dementia or psychosis as time goes on, which makes sense if you think about the tiredest you've ever felt and then try to imagine what it would be like to stretch that by (effectively) not sleeping for the rest of your life.
It's not the lack of sleep that kills those people. It's just a symptom. The disorder slowly eats your brain and eventually destroys the areas responsible for sleeping.
I am pretty sure the thing is that the reason of death never was the lack of sleep itself, but like organ failure and similar stuff. The body actually can't work 24/7 like that for a long time. So it can happens that is just... collapses. And then you are dead.
Now it's discussable if that's because the lack of sleep, or not. I see it as the actual reason, cause it is what triggered the things that lead to death.
Sadly can't provide sources right now, I am on mobile. That's just what I remember.
Jerithil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most cases I've heard of has the people dying from a heart attack or stroke from the increased stress on their systems, often helped by stimulants. Also some have died from blood clots caused by not moving enough which is the same thing they warn you about on long flights.
If you're healthy otherwise and you don't sleep for an extended period of time and your body can't handle it anymore then your brain simply shuts off if I remember correctly (as in you fall asleep). Even if you're standing up.
Yeah! Don't be free will's puppet, think for yourself! Wait-no, don't think for yourself, that's what it wants you to do! I...ughh...umm. My head hurts.
Castun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a chance we could make it now
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just think that the freewill v. determinism dichotomy isn't useful to us anymore.
Ideas are technologies. Those are obsolete.
We need new words that leave room for the nuances of the way human's choices are influenced by outside factors.
I believe that many times (if not most) when someone is explaining why they did something that they are simply reverse engineering their own behavior. "Why would I have done that?"
There is a large difference between a reaction and a determined action. Our ideas of freewill v determinism dont really leave room to talk about that space very well.
FGHIK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think about determinism vs free will all the time, but the only conclusion I can reach is that there's just no way to determine which is real... or if it makes a difference.
poiu45 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:57:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't make a difference, but I am firmly in the camp of no free will. The brain is made entirely of molecules, and we know entirely how molecules interact with eachother. Therefore, there is no way that any non-deterministic actions could arise from the brain, excluding quantum randomness.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look into compatibiliism. The field as responses for your type of argument.
poiu45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From some (fairly brief but what seemed sufficient) reading, the main issue I have is that it seems that compatibilism primarily redefines free will not to be the freedom of will, but actually freedom of action. Everyone is free to act as they want, but they will only ever want one action based on their deterministic history, so the commonly accepted definition of free will is not really satisfied.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The commonly accepted definitions of terms are not really what we should be after. If "freedom of action" gets you everything you want out of free will and is actually coherent, then you have your free will. People like Dan Dennet argue that the only types of free will even worth having are compatibilist ones!
poiu45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pretty much agree with this comment, but most of the time when people bring up the argument of "free will vs determinism" they are referring specifically to the free will that allows more than one possible outcome from the current situation. This doesn't really come from "freedom of action", though most other impacts do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there are more than one possible outcomes and we have nowhere near the ability to predict future brain states from past brain states. I'd be hesitant to say that compatibilists would allow for multiple outcomes from a single set of input given their theories of free will, but we certainly can't know what the outcome will be.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(Copied my reply from another place in this downthread)
I just think that the freewill v. determinism dichotomy isn't useful to us anymore.
Ideas are technologies. Those are obsolete.
We need new words that leave room for the nuances of the way human's choices are influenced by outside factors.
I believe that many times (if not most) when someone is explaining why they did something that they are simply reverse engineering their own behavior. "Why would I have done that?"
There is a large difference between a reaction and a determined action. Our ideas of freewill v determinism dont really leave room to talk about that space very well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have, that isn't what I define as free will. I define free will as the ability to influence your own thoughts and actions, which is most likely not possible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how exactly do you mean that? "I" most certainly am the only one who decides my actions and "I" can take steps to influence my thoughts. What is "I?" If we just mean the neuro-chemical processes in the brain then free will is trivial and we have it almost by definition. I think you aren't seeing the nuance of modern thinking on free will.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So who would be doing the influencing given your previous definition? Again, it's certain that my actions are influenced the processes in my brain, so we haven't really defined much.
My thinking is that everything that has ever happened since the Big Bang is an inalterable chain reaction.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That can't be the case in total due to the inherent randomness of some quantum phenomena. At the macro level I would say I want to agree, but I'm not fully convinced when it comes to minds. The ability to have intentions, make observations, have wants and moral positions is possibly different than just particles doing particle-y things.
It's still your brain countering it's biological need to eat enough to survive, regardless of whether that's a conscious decision or not.
Fozee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehhh yes but that is a highly simplified version of what happens. In anorexia nervosa that is the case, but in anorexia as a symptom, it can be from the brain being tricked in a large variety of ways. And sometimes the brain is simply too busy to fuck around with signaling hunger.
Even in anorexia nervosa it's questionable to say that it's a case of humans overcoming biological needs. That's an atypical human. It's almost like saying humans have overcome the need to have arms. While some people don't have arms, we do really need arms. Especially if ours are broken, then we need others to have arms.
Well yeah, but we're talking about people who are raised with psychologically-traumatizing shameful views about sex, so I'd say the comparison is fairly apt.
Suicide is actually, remarkably common in animals, especially through starvation. Lots of social mammals will do it if their partner is lost, birds too.
However, not sleeping for extended periods of time puts stress on the body, which can lead to other things which will kill you: mostly circulatory problems (blood pressure, heart attacks, etc.)
icarus14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You done any of that with your dick in someone else?
Joking aside, the point was that humans can overcome any biological need and reaction given time and training. And I'm not surprised that there are sexually repressed communities in which sexual reactions are suppressed.
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget forcing your kids to kill themselves!
ZoomJet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, fasting once in a while is apparently good for you. Don't know where I saw this, but it was on a documentary
I get your point, but there is no documented case of this that was not related to a serious disease... i.e. the only times it's happened is if someone couldn't sleep (not because they decided not to).
I'm always amazed by this. By how suicide is such an act of weird... counterproductive free will in its own right. We are deep down made of particles obeying the purest laws of physics. Those particles created atoms and molecules bounding together to better find energetic equilibrium. Molecules become macromolecules and eventually cellular creatures, an unbelievably complex synergy of elements working and bounding together to meet those needs on a level that simpler components could not achieve. Elements form molecules that form cells that eventually specialize and create advanced organisms, all in the interest of aquiring energy for the parties involved.
Creatures evolve and become so vastly complex that the sum of its part losrs focus of why it was allowed to exist. Electrons just wanted a stable orbit, molecules wanted electrons. Macromolecules wanted a more complex and rich form to bound their components. Cells were just a common project to get acces to more stuff more easily. Animals are a way these cells reached to travel around and optimize all those processes. Your body wants food and nutriments and a healthy and safe place to accomplish that to minimize risk and losses. But organisms are so convoluted that somehow, the neuron assembly decided that this ongoing project is getting cut short, because Cindy doesnt love me and fuck the world.
It seriously blows my mind reading about those self-immolations. I mean, it's incredibly depressing first of all, but also, just...how? It seems like it'd be an utterly primal and instinctual reaction, maybe even just physical, to freak out and panic. Not sit...calmly...
I was having a conversation about this with a coworker the other day. She's Jewish and said her religion was all about self-control, i.e. fasting a lot. She made this comment, "I found out my will was greater than my body."
I couldn't stop thinking about it. The idea that the human brain can manifest a thought pattern which disregards its own survival was mind-blowing. I have participated in religious fasts, but had never thought of it that way. It's so apparent where the idea of mind-body dualism emerges. It's also interesting that humans have evolved the ability to purposefully disregard their own health/survival.
Hardly. It takes a huge amount of brainpower to completely overcome the urges that have built up over the ages.
Yes, it removes these people from the gene pool; but I think that suicide is a natural consequence of having enough brainpower to completely reshape the world.
They may be deficient relative other humans; but few species of animals have the brains required to deliberately overcome biological urges.
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Humped into stuffed animal therapy" make me shoot a piece of the macaroni out my nose...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is apparently a medical record of the parents and attending witnessing a fetus pleasuring itself and reaching orgasm. Multiple times.
So yeah, it is that instinctual. Also, parents discovering their toddler or young children unwittingly masturbating happens a hell of a lot more than parents want to admit. I remember there was an ask reddit thread, the parent said their young son (5-7 i think) came up to them and said "Look what I can do!" and proceeded to hump the couch or cushions.
Dorp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine telling that to your kid when he was 18: "Yeah, you were totally jacking/jilling off inside your mother before you were born. We have pictures!"
Just beautiful figurative language here. And I think most parents will admit their toddlers go through the happy-hand-in-the-pants phase. My grandmother brushed it off with a "Oh so-and-so just discovered themselves."
jyetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, my sister stopped by the time she was 6. And then started back up a few years later, but in her room.
Hey, that's how some of us have it. I remember I never quite understood how masturbation worked until a friend literally came to my house and did it in front of me. Kinda funny how you thought dicks worked like a drill though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is for the ones that make it to the next generation.
Yes but people who grow up in those environments are taught to be ashamed of sexual desires and even the act itself. Its funny that these wait till marriage towns also have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and STDs. They tell them not to do it, and they do it with no knowledge.
Plus you have to move it back and fourth to get it in and out. I don't 100% believe that one. Also every guy knows to jack off you don't just grab your dick and hold it still
B0sz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm. I find myself dryhumping my girlfriend as soon as I touch her ass.
Seriously. I start grinding my pelvis into whatever body part is in front of it pretty much as soon as vigorous kissing starts. I don't understand how you could get that far into the process without knowing what comes next.
It is, as is evidenced by pretty much every animal ever. They don't have sex-ed classes yet they manage to figure it out. But somehow we advanced humans have trouble with it. Irony at its finest.
biology isn't a force in itself. we talk about it like it is but it isnt. there is no such thing as a biological imperative.
the "need/reaction" to move during sex is to feel good in your junk. that's the driver- feel good not biology. when you think sex is sinful unless done for procreation after marriage, feeling good isnt a priority. so they had no drive to do anything.
If you'd never seen porn, never had anyone tell you, I dunno, I guess the people who can't figure it out by themselves would just get selected out of the gene pool.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, maybe not. I mean I cant tell for sure I would 've known if I had never seen any porn, sex in movies, even animals doing it.
acelister ยท 1726 points ยท Posted at 22:05:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It felt so good when I put it in..."
"It did."
"So what's for dinner tomorrow?"
"I'm thinking pork chops."
"Yeah, sounds good. I'll need to pick up some potatoes."
"Oh, I've got to call my mom."
"Do you want to stop?"
"Nah, just tell me if you finish."
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:25:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ow my ballerinos
Maur2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear about your arms.
l-Came ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What gender was the deadfuck
TuxFuk ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously a girl, they have a vagina.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:51:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...? Do gays not have sex?
TuxFuk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:03:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That completely passed me for some reason
phearlez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The average straight dude probably cannot imagine staying still if someone was putting a penis in their butt, so understandable it didn't occur to him.
I had a boyfriend once many years ago, complete druggie/alcoholic, who once said during sex 'I must have come because I'm not hard anymore' I told him if that's the only way he knew why even bother? we broke up not long after that.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:51:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it involves more tea and crumpets as well as a quick phonecall with the Queen to ask for permission.
Cruxion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if
So are they just gonna lay forever?
jusjerm ยท 638 points ยท Posted at 22:03:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is baffling. How does no one just rock their hips a bit to see what happens
Sam-Gunn ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 23:04:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can someone jam a usb plug into an RJ-45 jack (ethernet) and not see the issue as to why they cannot access their pictures? And these people are sober...
You laugh, but it actually slides in pretty well, it's actually the kind of a mistake a reasonable person could make who didn't know what port was what, it's close enough that it feels like a real socket connection, try it.
I managed to put a usb in the port myself when trying to hook up a computer by reaching around to plug in cables without looking, I was amused when I saw what I'd done.
I've done this accidentally numerous times. You'd think that having owned my laptop for over 4 years would mean that I'd have memorised where the ports are.
It's a well documented fact that USB ports extend beyond our simple 3 dimensional understanding.
It can take 3 or more rotations of the usb plug before it will orient, as we all know. Furthermore, the odds of successfully plugging a usb port on the first try is an abysmal 33%, while anyone can plainly see it should be 50/50 for a plug with only 2 orientations.
The answer is clear. In their maddening rush to get ever faster port speeds, they have done so by tethering the port to a 4th dimension, likely some sort of hell dimention.
They use clever means to hide this from us and pretend it's all down to customer stupidity. Chief among them, the orientation mark on a usb plug. To this day, some use the marking to denote the top of the plug, some the bottom.
Let's dispel once and for all with the fiction that the USB industry doesn't know what they are doing, they know exactly what they are doing.
TuxFuk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:42:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm; am electrical engineer familiar with the USB Type A Spec.
Edit: Err I know nothing that you speak of. The port only has two positions.
jyetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chief among them, the orientation mark on a usb plug. To this day, some use the marking to denote the top of the plug, some the bottom.
wyvernwy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've done this. Know better. Have decades of experience as an IT professional. Some network ports are poorly located and I have been known to be lazy enough to not look at what I'm doing.
What are the odds that two people both of whom have never masturbated before but still enjoy sex find each other?
I knew a guy back in high school who claimed he never masturbated (I didn't believe him at the time). He was super religious, though not to the point that everything carnal was a sin, just most of it.
He married another extremely religious girl when they were both fairly young but they waited until marriage for sex. They got divorced ~3 years later and according to him lack of sex/babies on his part was the main cause. He said he tried, and they did it a few times, it was just difficult for him and he didn't cum.
I'm not sure if he's gay and the religious part is keeping him in the closet or if he is asexual, but multiple doctors visits gave him a clean bill of sexual health he claimed.
Grew up in a super conservative community and went to a private Christian school where we didn't have sex ed at all. I learned about sex/reproduction literally from the one encyclopedia we had at our house.
Married a guy from the same community. We actually didn't wait to have sex until we were married because we both went away to college and basically we were left unsupervised and went a little crazy. We felt wracked by guilt and confessed to our pastor who, while not thrilled, was very loving and understanding and encouraged us to reject the shame and guilt, but to still at least try to wait.
We tried to wait, but hell we were repressed 20 year olds that had just been let loose from a very stifling place and yeah no waiting took place.
Anyway, we have an amazing sex life now and no guilt. We are even pretty kinky at times and love to try new things. We love to shock our Christian friends by being frank and open about sex.
All it takes is one person to be honest and give permission to let go of guilt and shame. That is one reason why Jesus died in the first place -- to remove guilt and shame for sin. As a Christian, this can be done just like our pastor did by telling us that we don't need to feel ashamed for our sexualities.
I try to talk to as many of my Christian friends about sex as I can. I know it sounds weird, but this thread is such a good example of why Christians need to be talking to each other about this stuff more.
Your pastor mistook the bible, which condemns fornication in extreme terms. People should read their bibles and not rely on the interpretations of others, even those in authority within the church.
Actually I think you are mistaking the Bible and my story. My pastor didn't tell us that what we were doing was okay. In fact, he did tell us we were wrong to be having sex outside of marriage. The difference was that he specifically told us that our struggle was normal and not to be ashamed or to feel guilty because in Jesus we don't have to. He asked us to try to wait until we were married to have sex. We tried out best, but damn have you ever had sex?
Same. Some real sad stuff too. Like people turning the lights off and making it as quick as possible. (Totally not my sex life). But some people think enjoying sex is a sin and the only thing it's there for is procreation.
Big_TX ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:36:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably logically thought that that was the proper way to do it otherwise I don't see how you want to play that. What if it feels good when you stick it in and it feels good when you take it out I don't see how you think "oh gee maybe how to repeat this motion" and animals know how to do it so that leads me to believe that a false understanding of the proper way to do it
kapxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no kidding.. even just..accidentally moving a little would cause this realization..unless they were too afraid the other one would judge them or something.
Wanna hear something crazy. I didn't know what jerking off was or how it worked when I was younger. I had an epiphany moment eventually after growing up in a catholic household and occasionally guiltily watching videos on youtube that made me feel "warm". I would beat myself up about it for days(figuratively speaking people I was not a young masochist).
Eventually just watching turned into rubbing which turned into pants off rubbing which turned into naked rubbing until one day stuff came out and it fucking blew my mind. You cannot imagine how mind blowing that experience was.
Did no one involve fap? Or hear vaguely of sex? Or feel any urge? So thats the vagina huh. Imma stay there. I mean hell, put two retarded children in a room together long enough and they'll figure it out, and those guys havent mastered speech.
My dog hasnt received sexual education. He can figure out how to hump shit by himself.
I thought the same thing. It feels so awesome to slide it in you wouldn't just... leave it there. You'd be like oh sliding it in was awesome let's do that a few times for funsies... ohhhhhh I see...
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:21:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahaha. Until I was 20 I thought sleeping together literally meant sleeping in the same bed. People would gossip like "oh she slept with him" or "yo I slept with someone last night" and I was just sitting there like "...what's the big deal?"
That was a big epiphany for me.
Gaardc ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:08:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember watching a documentary about someone mentioning an orgasm (brought on by seeing their fave celeb at a concert or some crap like that). Didn't know what it was and smart kid I was I searched in a dictionary.
I still remember the words "sexual collapse" and for the longest time I thought it was something like passing out, thus "sleeping together" made sense... close enough I guess
I remember a story about some kid that had a similar misunderstanding; his gay uncle got AIDS from "sleeping with another guy" as his parents explained it, and the kid was terrified that he (the kid) would somehow make his little brother sick because they shared a bed. He watched his uncle wither away--this was before the meds for it--and didn't want the same thing to happen to his little brother so he slept on the floor in the hallway for a week before the parents finally got him to tell them why he was doing that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww that's adorable!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to imagine that a couple would not try and rub uglies naturally. One thing about sexuality is it comes naturally, animals get zero training or sex ed.
I mean that would require being in a sexual situation...
GrokThis ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 23:18:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a Christian co-worker who was pregnant, went to an ultrasound appointment with her husband. The husband, who was also Christian and had been home-schooled, asked the doctor if it was ok to "start another baby in there" before this one was born, or if that would be dangerous in some way.
The pregnant co-worker told me this while giggling, like it was so cute. I cringed so hard. Still cringing.
When my dad sat me down to give me "the talk," this was one detail he left out. For the longest time, I thought the same. Stick it in and leave it there. Wasn't until I discovered porn did I know any better.
Having grown up at the edge of radical Christian conservative culture, the ideas surrounding sex before marriage and the level of taboo it represents in that culture makes it so that even explaining the very basic mechanics of sex is seen as potentially ruining a pure mind.
And then you get married and all anyone talks about is when you're going to have children. Because apparently talking about sex becomes just fine when it involves babies.
Da_Boom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which is ridiculous.. if you actually look at all the sex stuff in the bible - i mean there was alot of it.
Xervicx ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:06:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused about both stories. Isn't sex something that almost all humans have this instinctual drive to pursue, and have some amount of instinctual understanding of how it works? I knew what sex was before I even heard the word, and I wasn't one of those kids that saw things I wasn't supposed to see when I was little.
Until you're raised to be completely ashamed of it and any thoughts of sexuality are embarrassing. Then you try to avoid all that stuff, and, as somebody mentioned above, either you're so ashamed or embarrassed that all of the instinct is overshadowed by being confused/ashamed/embarassed/awkward.
Xervicx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents never had "the talk" with me. With my father, it was too awkward a subject and the only thing he told me was in high school. And that thing was that I needed to stay away from women because I'd get them pregnant. My mother tried everything she could to make it so I didn't know what sex was. She tried to convince me that Santa still existed when I was twenty one. So you can imagine how she treated the topic of sex.
I knew what sex was at least as early as 4th grade. No one told me what it was, how it worked, or anything like that, and I didn't start watching porn until high school (didn't have access to it).
So the fact that my parents did everything they could to avoid telling me sex existed and the fact that they never spoke to me about puberty or anything else is the exact reason why I find it so strange that some people don't know how sex works just by instinct.
Maybe it's genetic memory, or "instinctual memory" if that exists. But I thought it was just something everyone knew since it's the one thing almost every human is naturally driven towards.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it had something to do with Saint Anthony?
Koker93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:40:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, that second story is awesome. Not moving at all is fun for a minute to cool down, but that's all they thought sex was?? When they both started moving it must have been mind blowing!
King Louis XVI of France needed that advice. When he married Marie Antoinette and they didn't bear any children for a bit after first living together, Marie's brother Joseph sat him down and asked what was up.
Turns out, old Louis never got a proper birds and the bees, and he thought you just stuck it in, left it for a few minutes, withdrew and bid good evening. Joseph set him straight and after that they produced 4 children.
Joseph later wrote to his brother Leopold about the situation:
"In the conjugal bed, here is the secret. He has excellent erections, inserts his organ, remains there without stirring for perhaps two minutes, and then withdraws without ever discharging and, still erect, he bids his wife goodnight. It is incomprehensible ... as for my sister, she is not amorously inclined, and they are a couple of incompetents together."
When I was 12, I thought that was how sex worked. I also thought that lesbians were the only case of female oral sex and that it involved cuctioning ones mouth to the vulva and suching hard enough to turn the vagina inside out, with the cervix still inside of the body. The truth is a lot less frightening than that.
goblueM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:40:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that seems so insane to me, I mean, yeah, on the one hand we definitely need sex education, there's no doubt about that, but the biggest benefits of sex ed is teaching kids how NOT TO GET PREGNANT - most of them would figure out how to do it even if no one gave them a diagram. How are there people out there with 0 instincts whatsoever? Dogs don't need to be taught how to have sex, in fact, no other animal in the entire kingdom goes to sex ed classes to learn how to do it.. Has evolution just slowly failed our species? maybe if you can't figure out where to put it you shouldn't be procreating and carrying on your genes in the first place?
A college friend was going back to Pakistan for a wedding. She wasn't sure what to do since the sex ed there was lacking. I advised a book with pictures.
WiredEgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend is like this. She's very reserved and was too shy to pay attention in health class. She's about to get married and I had to explain to her what a clit is and how it can make her enjoy the sex she currently dreads.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are cute to be honest... It must have exciting for those people to finally explore sexuality a little more. Aw.
WhimsyUU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read multiple sad stories from therapists about radically conservative female clients who were upset that their husbands wanted them to do "nasty things" and so on...after enough prompting, the therapists discover that the husbands just want to have intercourse. The women have it drilled into their brains that anything involving sex or pleasure is bad, and they hardly know anything about physical intimacy.
That's funny, when I swiped my v card, I literally stuck it in, tried to pull it back out, but was overcome by the pressure and the warmth - oh my god the warmth - that I came immediately. Idk i think something's wrong with them
fiqar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the-mbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it already sticks where it belongs how can you possibly NOT realize that you are supposed to move? This is even next level to the typical user I support in IT...
Unreal. How can that even happen? I mean the Bible even has sex in it, do they never read those parts and think "hmmm, wonder how that works exactly" and ask a friend or something?
scolfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand that Christians don't have the Talmud (in which there are multiple discussions on anal, with the conclusion that it's not a replacement for natural sex but should be practiced if it's necessary to fulfill your wife's needs), but doesn't procreation show up in religious literature a lot?
OldDarte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was your human sexuality professor named Bill Masters by any chance?
kopkiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he learned the guy was just sticking it in and nothing else. He told the guy to move back and forth next time and see what happened
Cagi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard of an elderly couple that went their whole lives thinking sex is when a woman closes her thighs around his penis. No penetration, just fucking legs. Obviously they had no kids.
Am I the only one thinking that if you're that stupid, then you shouldn't be reproducing? Either their kids will be the most sheltered kids ever or they will be able to get away with anything they want because their parents are idiots.
Father33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"So this is sex? I didn't get what all the fuss is about."
I know a guy who didn't know you needed to thrust. He got married to his high school sweetheart at 19 and apparently their wedding night was pretty uneventful. That marriage didn't last long.
Not a physician but I've had nurses tell me about their having to instruct where to, er, put it when you're doing it. Apparently there isn't a lot of distinction and/or very bad aim between the urethra and the vagina in some populations.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Appropriate Catch-22 quote:
Thatโs the virgin Iโm telling you about. They were just a couple of young kids, and theyโd been married, oh, a little over a year when they came walking into my office without an appointment. You should have seen her. She was so sweet and young and pretty. She even blushed when I asked about her periods. I donโt think Iโll ever stop loving that girl. She was built like a dream and wore a chain around her neck with a medal of Saint Anthony hanging down inside the most beautiful bosom I never saw. โIt must be a terrible temptation for Saint Anthony,โ I joked-just to put her at ease, you know. โSaint Anthony?โ her husband said. โWhoโs Saint Anthony?โ โAsk your wife,โ I told him. โShe can tell you who Saint Anthony is.โ โWho is Saint Anthony?โ he asked her. โWho?โ she wanted to know. โSaint Anthony,โ he told her. โSaint Anthony?โ she said. โWhoโs Saint Anthony?โ When I got a good look at her inside my examination room I found she was still a virgin. I spoke to her husband alone while she was pulling her girdle back on and hooking it onto her stockings. โEvery night,โ he boasted. A real wise guy, you know. โI never miss a night,โ he boasted. He meant it, too. โI even been puttinโ it to her mornings before the breakfasts she makes me before we go to work,โ he boasted. There was only one explanation. When I had them both together again I gave them a demonstration of intercourse with the rubber models Iโve got in my office. Iโve got these rubber models in my office with all the reproductive organs of both sexes that I keep locked up in separate cabinets to avoid a scandal. I mean I used to have them. I donโt have anything any more, not even a practice. The only thing I have now is this low temperature that Iโm really starting to worry about. Those two kids Iโve got working for me in the medical tent arenโt worth a damn as diagnosticians. All they know how to do is complain. They think theyโve got troubles? What about me? They should have been in my office that day with those two newlyweds looking at me as though I were telling them something nobodyโd ever heard of before. You never saw anybody so interested. โYou mean like this?โ he asked me, and worked the models for himself awhile. You know, I can see where a certain type of person might get a big kick out of doing just that. โThatโs it,โ I told him. โNow, you go home and try it my way for a few months and see what happens. Okay?โ โOkay,โ they said, and paid me in cash without any argument. โHave a good time,โ I told them, and they thanked me and walked out together. He had his arm around her waist as though he couldnโt wait to get her home and put it to her again. A few days later he came back all by himself and told my nurse he had to see me right away. As soon as we were alone, he punched me in the nose.โ
โHe did what?โ
โHe called me a wise guy and punched me in the nose. โWhat are you, a wise guy?โ he said, and knocked me flat on my ass. Pow! Just like that. Iโm not kidding.โ
Oh lordy, my human sexuality professor was a 5'4 Italian guy who spoke in a monotone, never paused his speech, would ask a question ask it again and then answer it himself, and yet was still a good professor with a pretty subtle sense of humor.
He mentions that scientists had recorded a video of a lady squirting during orgasm. The second he stops his lecture a kid from the back dashes up to the front and is all 'I NEED that video!!!! pant pant
This being well past the year 2000, the professor dryly snipes that he should search on the internet. And thus, little Jimmie's knowledge of porn grew three sizes that day
Your professor helped that couple out, but not the gene pool.
xandora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend at school who had a similar story from her mum. Apparently the guy was ramming her in the belly button and they couldn't figure out why they weren't getting pregnant.
Yep this is how a the parents of a friend of mine ended up with a third child. They were were broke grad students and wanted to stop at the two kids they already had. So they reused condoms to save money (I presume washing them but I didn't get that level of detail from my friend) and my friend wound up with a baby brother.
SickZX6R ยท 4437 points ยท Posted at 23:31:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn...Planned Parenthood gives condoms away for free!
How nice that you want to hold part of people's healthcare hostage until you get your way politically.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 02:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"People's healthcare" would include the people waiting to be born, yes? Are you supportive of providing healthcare for them? This is why all the liberals lost the election...you talk out of both sides of your mouth. You people are just not honest, and the American people have found you out. PP will be shut down in the near future, and when it does, you will remember reading my words.
You do know taking away their funding for a few years doesn't actually shut them down, eh?
Yes, I'm all for prenatal care! Thanks for asking.
Let's try not to resort to "you people" statements. It's ridiculous and divisive.
ohpee8 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:56:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who isn't for providing healthcare to unborn children? The republicans trying to repeal the ACA?
Stewba ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Democrats lost the election because too many people like you continued to have kids when they can't provide/nuture them creating a generation of people who can't tell the difference between news and Facebook posts.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary lost and Trump won. how do you feel about that?
Stewba ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:53:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like I am glad I don't live in your country but sad for the world at large.
Thanks for making the world a shittier place. Hillary wasn't ideal either but at least she's not a climate change denier.
Your whole country is fucked and it's dumdums like you who are to blame.
How do you feel about trump backing down on basically all of his promises and bringing in the wealthiest, "swampiest" group of corporate insiders into his cabinet in history and that he never intended to prosecute Hilary for her "crimes"? Because it should make you feel betrayed and infuriated.
Not that I expected you to listen to facts since you clearly voted for feelings, way to let down the whole of human history. Please drag us back into the dark ages and grasp that bible real tight till the rapture comes.
Stewba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Isn't it convenient that you were born into the "right" religion. I wouldn't let critical thinking get in your way of getting to heaven.
it's called viability and it's simple concept. if it cannot live outside of the womb without the use of machines and similar products of medicine, it's not a person.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Viability" does not determine personhood. Follow the logic. If you cannot "live" i.e. Feed yourself, the you aren't a person. This would include all children under the age of 5. You are clearly repeating something you overheard some SJW shouting at a march. My suggestion for you is to go read a book and learn to start thinking for yourself.
jyetie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:56:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why all the liberals lost the election
No, that would be a combination of the worst presidential election ever (even without the hack) and the ignorance people like you continue to spew. Maybe you should make use of PP services while they're still around for the sake of our country.
glassuser ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 02:54:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, because that's what PP is doing.
Stewba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha you are so fucked it's awesome. Except if you have kids then it's a crime against humanity.
Pretty sure any good uni just needs a student body to write durex and they'll supply condoms to said student body for promotional reasons.
I know a guy who did this and ended up with bags of condoms more than he here needed. Being that he was the head of two clubs he took those condoms that would never be used up in his social club till they expired and he decided 'fuck it, let's give em away free'.
The Labor party political club that day gave out condoms to all new members, I told people it was to stop women going into labor.
So yeah, if you need free condoms there are ways and means.
In Africa, well, the urban parts, you're never far from a free condom dispenser. Of course some idiots take a hundred of them and never use a single one but still, you're never far from the emptied out container.
That said, you should look into getting aid organizations to condom you guys.
Right. I'm extremely lucky to not need to pay for child care for my infant (yay split shifts with the husband!) and I know that ish is expensive. I don't know how people afford it. I looked into a licensed daycare and for just my one child, it was my salary. No wonder people rely on family so much.
But yeah I'm saving a decent salaries' worth every year by not having daycare so that's a big chunk gone
AdammabA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:59:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That can't be right. If I make $50k/yr, I would have to spend literally all of my pay on the kid without paying any other bills, and that would only be $900k. Single parents would never be able to afford that, and we obviously have people who do it all the time.
That's bad math. At 50k a year you'd only make 900,000. So that person would have to raise any children, multiple children even, at much less than a million. There still many finances outside of having a child to be taken into account. Obviously if someone has a higher income they can afford more but the myth that it takes a million dollars to raise a child is just that, a myth. Sorry, I just read this often and as someone with plenty of friends raising kids while making below 50k a year it always make me exasperated to hear.
Maybe if you include all the money you spend WHILE having the child under 18, but no way it's that high as far as "need" goes, or even close, if you just compare "money spent alone" to "money spent with child".
Someone making $50k a year only hits 900k after 18 years. And we still haven't gotten to things other than the kid that you have to spend money on.
Probably true, but I'm trying to be a little conservative fiscally and let's just say you're paying JUST for food, and clothing, and public schooling. No college or anything else.
You shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion if it isn't going to kill you, the kid, or be caused of rape. You know the consequences of your fucking, if you don't want the kid put it up for adoption and let someone, who can't have kids, but wants them, to have it.
Ceremor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know you can take a pill and get rid of that clump of cells without an invasive medical procedure if you catch it early too, right? It's not a big deal. In The Year of Our Lord 2017 abortions are a choice, it's not going to change, bruh.
In the eyes of the law, defiantly not. Socially? Maybe someday it will. But answer this, why do you not want people who are sterile to have kids?
Ceremor ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:40:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guess what dude, there's a ton of kids in the system who still don't have parents. The problem is kind of that there are too many, not that there's not enough.
Another issue; as I can tell from my friend who is going through the adoption route now, is he's on a 4 year waiting list to even get approved to start the work to be able to adopt.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:36:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess: he wants a white infant without any kind of special needs? Most states will pay you to take kids that are older, a minority or special needs.
Wah everyone who doesn't think like me is racist!! /s
Ceremor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:00:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your post history tells us that you literally are racist, so your friends probably are too.
Even your chums down at the_donald reacted by saying what the fuck is wrong with you when you made that "BROTHERS, GIVE THREE CHEERS. WE MADE THE WHITE HOUSE WHITE AGAIN" post.
I really don't understand why literal racists always seem to hate being called racist.
No, if you get the "tubes tied " surgery, it's still malpractice. Why not go the full route so you don't also have to worry about cancer, if you wanna be sterile, and get your ovaries removed? 2 birds, 1 stone.
Nope. Malpractice is about something having been done incorrectly. You can't sue for malpractice if everything was done correctly and you still don't have the intended outcome.
As for why someone wouldn't remove their gonads; they are hormonally active. Removing them does much more than eliminate fertility. To the point that no doctor would ever do such a thing just for the purpose of sterilization. It would be unethical.
Also, for the cancer thing, removing them eliminates the risk of one type of cancer and raises your risk of other cancers.
So again, at what efficacy rate are you comfortable with people risking a pregnancy they won't keep?
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know nothing about the human body? That's not just a simple procedure, it's a major surgery that has a ton of effects on a person. So everyone who wants to have sex needs to have major surgery in your world? Get the fuck out dude
If you didn't want the act that causes the kid, it shouldn't be held accountable to the mother or the rape baby.
Edit: to add, if you get raped, go to the hospital/police to get tested first, they'll ask do you want/need that one drug people used in areas when abortion was banned. (Not plan b but something else).
Did I even say it's murder? No. I'm saying it's unreasonable and unfair that you can abort the kid out of you don't want it, when there are thousands of families out there who can't have kids, but want them. And need years and years of time on lists and inspections before they can adopt.
there are thousands of families out there who can't have kids, but want them
You do realize that carrying a fetus to term and then giving birth to it is very expensive and also dangerous? My cousin almost died last year giving birth, and hers was an uncomplicated pregnancy up til then.
Sucks to be your cousin, did she have it naturally or csection? If the former, sounds like she had a shit Doctor who should be sued for malpractice.
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit even your logic is fucking terrible. I can at least understand the ethos behind obnoxious bible thumpers and their anti-abortion spiel as much as I disagree with it but you're actually going to stand on a platform of 'Women shouldn't have agency over their own body and should be forced to carry out a pregnancy because other people want their children'?
Really? Fucking really? God damn dude, not only is that incredibly stupid because there's already more than enough unadopted kids out there, but it's also just horrible and cruel. So you're not even operating under the assumption that abortion is murder, you just want a woman to have to go through the whole uncomfortable, sometimes dangerous ordeal of pregnancy for the sake of strangers that want her kid? What the fuck does she owe to some rando that she has to carry a pregnancy to term? Why do the rights to her own bodily autonomy go to some asshole parents who are probably just waiting on her because they don't want to adopt a black kid?
This is the stupidest logic I've ever seen holy shit what is wrong with you? How do you have a kid? I hope you're lying about that, you shouldn't have children, not only are you a terrible moralizing asshole, you're also dumb as hell. Christ.
Everyone thinks your opinions on this subject are terrible and stupid. Everyone. Consider that maybe you're the one that's wrong here.
I don't get this obsession with abortions as a measure of convenience. That's monstrous. Bill Clinton said : safe, legal, rare. The argument now is free, convenient, common. Imagine how people who think it's a life feel, they've been takem for a ride
You're saying abortions should be rare. Statistically, proper contraceptive failure is still rare, so that's not really an argument against abortion in the case of contraceptive failure.
I don't think you're getting the point here. Abortions are a surgery, they're a massive procedure which potentially ends a life. Not only is it callous it's also needlessly disrespectful. If you want to gamble with having a kid, just a condom isn't and shouldn't be enough. Use pills, etc. I guess I'm. Just bothered by the callousness of it all.
I absolutely agree that people should use more than condoms. It's crazy to me when people only use condoms.
Abortions aren't always a surgery or a massive procedure though. Early chemical abortions are functionally the same as a miscarriage.
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abortions are only a surgery in later stages of pregnancy. You don't even know how abortions work dude, don't argue about it when you don't even know what you're talking about.
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if you deleted your other post detailing a surgical abortion or if the reddit servers just glitched out and can't fidn it, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_abortion is something you don't seem to know about or are at least very, very confused about.
Sure I'm for the more billy mindset, especially the rare part. Rape babies happen, he'll even some women elect to keep them. More power to them. Women/babies get fiseases that may or may not kill them in childbirth. Which sucks. Now a newer argument for incest? Sorry, if bro and sis/mom and sond/dad and daughter/cousin on cousin, etc were fucking, protected or not, well what did you expect would happen.
Edit: would like to add I personally only know one person who had an abortion because she didn't want the kid. And she's a shitty person cause she didn't want to be pregnant cause she would have to stop drinking.
If you're that worried about pregnancy, to the point of having multiple redundancies like that, sure, go ahead and abstain. The rest of us will continue to be normal humans and realize that you can have safe fun without being an overwrought prude.
No no no I'm serious. More abortions for unwanted kids means less avaliable for adoption means less people can adopt means eventually gays can't adopt kids. And artificial insemination has its own issues under the law, which needs reform. (I.e. Two daddy's have an insemination, the real dad gets the legal rights in case of divorce, the other father, even tho it's their kid, can get fucked and not get visitation and other rights) also it's cost is astronomical.
i actually just happened to hear this stat on the radio today. $230k to raise a person from infant to eighteen years old (im thinking this is a minimum figure, i've heard closer to $1 mil, like a few others said).
Because those numbers usually involve the kid loving a pretty nice life and if the parents use zero financial aid or insurance. Like if I had to have medical procedure that cost 10k but because of my insurance I only pay 800 but I went around telling everyone it costs 10k
My dad raised 8 on an average of about 60k annually - 10k of which went to health nsurance costs.
p_iynx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. But poor people are going to have sex. That's why we need places like Planned Parenthood and affordable birth control, as well as comprehensive sex ed. Obviously it's cheaper to use condoms. But some people still can't afford them.
Now there's a better argument, go after the pharma companies about making the pill cheaper. But they also need to work on it better till its 100% no if/and/or/buts effective first. Planned parenthood does do some good, but we shouldn't be funding them still. Same as charities and churches shouldn't get off on having to pay taxes either.
p_iynx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Planned Parenthood provides multiple services to low income people. They are funded because they provide cancer screenings, counseling, health care, Pap smears, STI testing, etc, in addition to providing birth control and abortions. Their abortion care is not funded by the government.
Yeah I know, but I don't care, does the government fund all hospitals, doctors, therapists, etc? No. Fuck the good they do, they'll get better help for the public, since they'll be able to see then" good " their money does. We shouldn't be supporting any institutions
HOW CAN YOU AFFORD TO LEAVE YOUR HOUSE?! IF YOU SLIP AND BREAK YOUR COLLAR BONE YOU'LL MISS WORK AND ACCRUE THOUSANDS IN MEDICAL BILLS!!
That's you. That's what you sound like.
Poor people get to fuck too. If it costs society significantly less to provide contraception than pay for the child (which the government will be on the hook for if they can't afford it), how can you possibly argue against it?
AdammabA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor people could walk into any fucking college campus and get condoms for free if jerking it isn't cutting it for them. How about they practice some personal fucking responsibility? And you're telling me they're so poor they can't afford a $4 pack of 3 condoms? Fuck off with your bullshit. Unless you're arguing that poor people are just inherently lazy or irresponsible, and that's why it's cheaper for society to just provide condoms, you're not making very good points.
It's been proven to help and save money. That's all that matters. Unless your need to wank to your ideology is more important than saving money, increasing overall societal health, reducing abortions and reducing children born out of wedlock and to unprepared homes.
If you place ideology before facts, then I can't help you.
AdammabA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because we give people access doesn't mean they will use it responsibly. People can workout for free at home or outside, yet we have obese people getting diabetes all the time. Should we give them free gym memberships? Maybe all the food they need for a healthy diet for free? After all, it increases overall societal health and saves money right?
If it was proven to save our country money, make people healthier and ultimately create a better society, why the fuck wouldn't you? You want to pay more in taxes just so you can watch other people suffer just because you think they deserve it?
AdammabA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it sounds like communism, and I don't think I should have to tell you how that turns out. The government doesn't know me, my life, my wants, my needs. Why the fuck would I want them telling me what I can and can't eat?
You have absolutely no idea what communism is, then.
That's like saying building a nationwide road network is like telling you where you can and cannot drive. It makes no sense. You're just having a kneejerk conservative reaction.
The food thing is stupid and I was only humoring it for the sake of argument. But if gym memberships were proven to help the country and save billions, that doesn't mean the government is forcing you to do anything. Why would you ever oppose that? What possible negative effects would offering fitness to the country have?
Unfortunately, a lot of people are too ignorant (due to crappy/absent sex ed), inebriated, and so on to use condoms correctly, let alone know that combining condoms with withdrawal is nearly foolproof. Also, many women and girls are unfortunately in circumstances where they cannot safely refuse sex, nor convince their partners to use condoms.
In any case, subsidizing LARCs (IUDs and implants, "set and forget") collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
So there better be a way for people who cant afford contraceptives to access them. How are they gonna raise a kid if they can't even afford the contraceptives to prevent the pregnancy??
That's not the most effective form of contraception, the cost adds up over the long run, many people don't know to combine them with withdrawal, and many women are in situations where they cannot safely refuse sex or demand that their partners use condoms. Subsidizing LARCs collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
Condoms are not the most effective form of contraception, the cost adds up over the long run, many people don't know to combine them with withdrawal, and many women are in situations where they cannot safely refuse sex or demand that their partners use condoms. Subsidizing LARCs collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
First I used condom as an example, second get an Amazon account or Costco membership, third: simple fix, better sex Ed in public school. Fourth that's an fallicy, or they just need to refuse anyway, or threaten not to have sec if not used, if sex happens it's rape and they need to press charges. Lastly it's not the cost of abortions. It's the fact they happen as an option of birth control.
People usually go to condoms as the example because they seem to be inexpensive, and yes there are sources of them for free. Even assuming that people all have the transportation to get to Costco (they don't) or can order things through Amazon (imagine being a teen, or otherwise living with someone who might take an interest in your mail), the costs still do add up over time... but it's the next two points that are most important.
Improving sex ed in much of the US is, sadly, not an easy fix. You can probably see that in other conversations in this very thread, as conservative religious groups keep people ignorant; worse, they can be very powerful politically and wield a lot of influence on school boards, state legislatures, etc.
Lastly, and most important, women in all too many communities can and will be beaten if they try to refuse sex. Do you know how difficult it can be to get a successful rape prosecution, and do you have any idea how often the victim/survivor is blamed for what was done to them? I'm a bit flabbergasted that I have to tell you this.
I wasn't referring to the cost of abortions. Sometimes people do acknowledge that subsidizing/providing LARCs does crash the abortion rate (see the Contraceptive Choice Project, Colorado's similar program, another in Iowa, etc.), but they say they don't want to pay for it. It pays for itself. They're being penny-wise and pound-foolish, which is so common these days.
If you're a teen, you especially shouldn't have sex. If not for the whole teenage dropout shit, let's say my state (age of Consent is 16) if a 17 yr old has sex with his 16 yr old , the elder can still have charged pressed on them from the younger a parents for statutory rape and or corruption of a minor, laws fucked. It is a easy fix, don't do it as late, but treat sex Ed like drivers Ed. Full semester of that shit. Ok, are these American communities or a different countries? Cause that would actually make news if it were in America. Sorry i must have been misinterpreted or mobile screwed me, it's not about the cost of abortions, it's the birth control shit. I personally feel we shouldn't find shot and should tax charities and churches. lets have our money go to something better, like the debt.
OK dingbat but people are going to have sex. Why not make it as safe as possible instead of adding one more potentially devastating ring to the cycle of poverty.
The onus is upon them to make sure they don't wind up with a kid. It's not cheap and I've always been poor as fuck but I definitely could have sprung for rubbers. Anybody who says a dongbag is too expensive is too lazy to pick up fucking change. Literally less than a dollar.
That's not the most effective form of contraception, the cost adds up over the long run, many people don't know to combine them with withdrawal, and many women are in situations where they cannot safely refuse sex or demand that their partners use condoms. Subsidizing LARCs collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
Ok what sounds more reasonable, holding off on gratification until you are fiscally responsible enough to support the life, or take the 4% chance you might have a kid, with the use of contraceptions and add another life to the poverty cycle?
Ceremor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:04:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah let's just risk something going wrong and dying because we can't afford a hospital birth and abortion isn't an option under the strict moral guidance of reddit user ICUMTARANTULAS. Great idea! Wow!
As I said, I am being fiscally conservative and saying the absolute lowest it would take.
Ceremor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes. The fiscal conservative's outlook that the poor ought to live their lives like they're in a 3rd world wasteland with absolutely no infrastructure because they can't afford it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:11:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost every school does this, even most of the religious ones do. The local public health unit has programs that give them out. There are lots of ways to get free condoms. If this story was true then it had more to do with some sort of fear of one of their parent's cutting off funding for having a relationship with someone they disproved of.
The doctors office I go to has free condoms. In a jar, no judgement, I took a few once and the clerk smiled and told me to take more.
Hell, I'm sure if I go up to 5 strangers and ask if they're willing to chip-in to my birth control / safe sex fund, I wouldn't be surprised if I get enough money to buy a pack of rubbers.
Well, the doctor had his finger in my butt before so yeah they're awfully personal over there.
I was kinda being awkward taking condom from the jar, she was just letting me know it's not like there is a limit or anything, just help yourself to the cheep cheep condoms.
In Ohio there is a site you can get a 30 pack delivered to your mailbox for free. Ohiv.org . Always post it to help someone out. Other states might do something similar. I only use ten or so a month so I've got a huge drawer of them I'll prob do something immature with in the future
Back in my punk rock days I knew a guy and girl who were habitually broke, and used plastic grocery bags in lieu of condoms. Boy were they happy when I told them about planned parenthood. But they still did it sometimes because planned parenthood was a ways away and they didn't have a car. As far as I know she never got pregnant.
Mr44Red ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:45:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hefty Hefty Hefty
Pelley42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a story that goes around in my town about a lovely young couple who used a discarded bag of Doritos for a condom.
But you can't afford to have moved to a place with better education either so now you think rewashing condoms can save you money because you can't get pregnant.
Not trying to rock the boat or anything, but I wonder how many anti-abortionists have invested in making condoms free to needy people. If you think about it, it's a win for everyone.
calcium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not just PP but many school's public health offices do too! I know my high school and college did.
juicius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The school clinic had free condoms. It's funded in part by the tuitions so there's no reason not to use it.
Hah. That's easy to say if you live in a city. In the rural midwest, where education is worst, you might not find one for hours in any direction.
Back when I was in high school, before tons of self-checkout at walmart, it was hilarious to try and get condoms. Guys bought them from gas stations and bought ginormous boxes to share with friends. It was really stupid.
the_jak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nitefang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do most universities.
aburp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for long! The new administration will pull all their cash & push ridiculous legislation and requirements for them to stay open to where they will just shut down (like they did in my home town).
nnklove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh no they definitely do not. Not at all the ones in this area. They're sold separately out of a big jar, and not cheap or anything.
And ironically they are the only condoms I've had break on me! I guess it's better than no condom but they're cheap condoms (or at least they were in 2008)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only they would drop the side business of murdering babies...
dubman42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My college campus has take 3 cents in student fees from every student to pay for free condoms as well as keep a small paid student staff to provide education mostly to freshman. It baffles me that people even pay for condoms in some places.
Off topic but I knew a lady once who'd keep diluting her dishsoap with water. To the point it was obviously just water in the bottle and she'd insist "it's just as good", I think in a year she literally only goes through 2 medium sized bottles. Needless to say, I never ate off her dishes/silverware.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A grad program though? Like I can imagine a retarded potato getting into a lot of colleges (even non-community colleges), but two people this dumb making it into grad school?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they needed money, they may have just been in cash cow programs. There are a lot of grad programs designed to take money from dummies.
[deleted] ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 23:22:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, the safest thing you can do for your sex life is to get a bunch of free condoms, take a few safety pins, and make sure to pin a condom to the inside of your coat before you head out.
I miss NY pizza so much :(, but at least Arizona has wayy better mexican food. 2.00 breakfast burrito that'll feed you two meals on the side of the road = life.
pretty sure it's actually more expensive than that. Dunno though haven't banged in awhile and my last gf despised of condoms and I was too much of a schmuck to disagree with her
Then stop having sex. If you don't have the self discipline to do that in order to avoid other things you can't afford (like STDs and babies), then that's probably why you can't afford a box of condoms.
Not with condoms that's for sure ! After the little furore in the papers the other day about Scotland trying to help NornIron with abortions they can't have there I was expecting the opposite if anything.
who knows what could change soon, hell.. the last time I was speaking to you we had a government, our government just collapsed there a wee while ago haha.
$15 a box for like 10 condoms which is going to last you 2 weeks is $30/month. I guess that doesn't seem like too much to me now, but when I was living paycheck to paycheck, it was a pretty big deal
Someone should have told them that Planned Parenthood gives out free condoms....
Voidg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well do the pull out method at that point.
u38cg2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, did they turn them inside out?
Xian9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember being really determined to get the free condoms from the toilets in the medical centre on campus (there's other places but I set on this location). The toilets were between the doctors offices, past the waiting room and past the front desk. The receptionist said "can I help you" and I just ignored her and paced right though. Not a great story but it felt awkward to me. Oh and I made sure to get half the box.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's literally a box of hundreds here at Costco for like 18 dollars.
sucks that it ended up costing them about a million times more than what a condom would've cost. That's not including the cost of their time, lives, and sanity.
How much could a condom possibly cost vs the entire pregnancy and raising a child? How fucking stupid are those people? You could even steal them if youre desperate enough to wash and reuse a condom. Jesus Christ.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how did the child find out he was the result of an overused condom...?
Elsrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is, I've never been to a university where free rubbers aren't free. Seriously, go down to the clinic and pack up, they also had female birth control but as a man, I couldn't get a box.
...proof that you can learn all you want, and still be a fucking idiot at the same time.
Seriously, between the two of them, how'd they not know that you use a condom once not because they want you to buy more of them, but because they become less effective and also what the fuck that's super gross.
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't afford condoms, you really need to buy condoms.
A former facebook friend of mine (I defriended him after he started posting actual porn) once posted a picture of a designer condom -- I want to say it was Chanel -- and said he was going to be using it twice for his girlfriend's birthday that night.
That's when I learned that some people actually think it's okay to reuse condoms.
SickZX6R ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea designer condoms existed. Now I want one. Not to use, just to display.
I just saved up my money and bought a lifetime supply of the good ones. I just needed to keep a lentil in my mouth and hibernate on the sidewalk with a cup to put money in. No need for begging. The fat cats just gave it to me.
Just one. Sex takes up too many calories. I just use them to gather rainwater.
aspa07 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:14:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to pick off the "used" stickers off CD's in FYE and then would stick them on boxes of condoms in the gas station across the street from high school. Thought it was hilarious.
westc2 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:07:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live in Eastern Europe and Second Hand stores and Sex Shops were pretty prevalent there. In fact they were often combined. It's very disturbing to look out the window of a bus and see the sign for "Second Hand Sex Shop".
Infobomb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:46:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That last one. Sheik, as in Durex Sheik that's still very much around. Damn that's crazy though, reusable. I thought Craig's uncle in Next Friday was just some crazy, stupid, old dude when he offered Craig to use his washed condom. Apparently it had a real life, historical basis.
Sam-Gunn ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:01:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โbecause he uses a condom every time and he makes sure to wash it thoroughly after every use.โ
Aren't most condoms... petroleum based? And don't most dish soaps have degreaser and stuff that'd easily compromise the integrity if not dry it up? And was he using it with EVERY person he was with? ...so many horrible questions.
No, most modern condoms (in the US at least) are largely latex-based. That's tree sap, not petroleum. There are condoms made of polyurethane and other petroleum-based materials, but they're more expensive and less flexible; they are hypoallergenic, however, and latex allergies are very common. You can also still find lambskin condoms, but they're difficult to find.
Historically, reusable condoms used to be made from lambskin.
They're more expensive, thicker, smell strange (though the smell doesn't last, it's really just the packaging), and aren't rated for prevention of STIs.
Also, they have synthetic condoms for latex allergies now so there's no real need to buy them. I wager some people still prefer them though.
xxxsur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tedivm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who is allergic to latex I want to point out that there are a lot of better options than sheepskin. Sheepskin doesn't offer anywhere near the protection that other non-latex condoms do.
In fact they're useless for STD protection-
Because the lambskin material has tiny pores--though they are not large enough to allow the passage of sperm--it is not considered to prevent the passage of certain STDs, particularly viruses like HIV and herpes. They should not be used as protection against diseases.
Do you figure it was passed down to him like a family heirloom?
3literz3 ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 00:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an optometrist, I've had several patients come to me for an exam because "the medicine ran out of my glasses". I still wonder if it's just an expression they have, or if they really believe there is medicine in the glasses that runs out.
crlast86 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the phrase "I need a new prescription" when my eyes are getting worse and I need something stronger. Maybe she heard something like that and misunderstood?
tsume24 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:46:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone who wears glasses and actually knows how they work... i'm so sorry. ๐ญ
This was back in paper days. I wrote the date and time, then:
NEUROLOGY
120/80, 125, 37
ATAXIC
BAL 223
A: ACUTE ALCOHOL INTOXICATION
P: TIME
....SIGNATURE
The signature had a little more flourish than my usual, which is probably why I got written up for it and had to explain myself to the chief. Not that that was unusual, this was one of those old school hospitals where shit flowed downhill unimpeded by any obstruction.
...she could just be, I don't know, like, really sheltered? Like, every single family member she's had was a teetotaler or drank very little, and she only hung out with the library crowd school, and watched very little tv, movies and popular music, and thus, had just never been exposed to drunk people before? I don't know. I got nothing.
Not sure if this fits here but my uncle was a doctor and had a patient come in with his fingers cut off on one hand (minus thumb). My uncle asked him how that had happened and the man replied that he was mowing his lawn and he wasn't sure if the mower was on or not so he put his hand under it to check and got his fingers cut off.
A grown ass man didn't understand that putting your hand in front of a blade was not in fact a good way to check if it was on or not.
Literally happened to my grandfather. To make it worse, our family's dog came and ate his fingers before they could get them on ice to re-attach at the hospital...
Hell, I AM deaf and I can tell the lawnmower is running without sticking my hand under it.
That brought up a memory. This guy was using a riding lawnmower to mow his big lawn and the kids were out playing with the dog. He managed to run over the dog's front legs, and he carried that poor bloody dog to the ER vet where we also were. Dog was put down, and I am traumatized for life. Every time my husband mows the lawn I have to double check that the dogs are inside, even though he knows about the trauma. He takes the dogs out to pee and then he mows, just so there's no chance we'd need to take the dogs out while he was mowing.
Freddie3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:26:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually more common than you think and there was a huge litigation battle in the mid-80s between lawn care companies and federal government attempting to make changes to lawn care safety because people were getting killed by their mowers and stuff.
One change that the government wanted was to put an image of a mutilated bleeding hand on the mower to remind people that hands can get cut off down there but lawn companies didn't want people to know that their mowers were dangerous so they negotiated the image down to just a stick figure hand almost getting cut by the blade that is much less striking and noticeable.
There's a fun book on lawn care called American Green that discusses the history of the idealistic American lawn and how society has changed around it. I highly recommend it.
God my grandfather did that. All of his fingers were the same length. Then when I was about 20 my mother wasn't sure if the blender was on or not so she stuck her hand it. It was on. She could see all sorts of stuff like bones and tendons. This same lady got a papercut on her eye from a popcorn bag. The fact that she is still alive astounds me.
Sometimes, when it looks dumb but it works - it's still fucking retarded.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sort of reminds me of my grandfather. He lost a few finger tips on one hand because of a lawnmower accident. As far as I can tell he didn't actually reach down while the lawnmower was on though but he did try to fix it in a not very smart way.
Yeah, but you can easily squat down, hold that with one hand, and check the blade with the other. This is why a lot of factory machines in places I've worked are triggered simultaneously in two places. Then you don't get to cheat (unless you get creative)
When I scribed, we had a patient in the ER with two bloody, missing fingers which came to be after he also put his hand under a lawn mower to check if it was still working.
valueape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad mangled three fingers and eventually lost part of one because he stuck his hand in the snowblower to clear an icy blockage. To be fair, he said he thought the kill switch was engaged, but it wasn't completely. It was like halfway so it looked safe to him.
Never mind, I don't have a sister. Just my brother.
gino188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well actually when I was in Grd10 business class, we learned about how the lawn mower companies had to put a sticker not to put your hand under it, or to lift it up while it was in operation...apparently some people thought it was a good idea to lift it up and use it to trim hedges...they trimmed their fingers and sued the lawn mower company. so then now they put stickers and warnings on that shit.
[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 02:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I had a doctor sort of have this reaction with me. I like to use those ear buds with the interchangeable rubber parts. Well, one day I noticed my hearing was super off after listening to music on the bus, and I was missing a rubber ear bud. After a while of the problem not going away I went to the ER to see if I had actually gotten it stuck in there. Sure enough, the doctor looked into my ear, gave me a rather astonished look and confirmed I had gotten the rubber in my ear. I attempted to laugh it off as he was removing it (which he was quite proficient at) and ask if he deals with this often. "Well yes, but never someone as old as you...normally with 5 year olds..."
When I was in high school I got a pencil eraser stuck in my ear. The high school nurse sent me to the elementary school to have their nurse take it out. That was embarrassing.
My brother in law has had this happen to him twice in the last year and he's 28. First time he got it removed by a dr. Second time he was so embarrassed he made my sister (his wife) do it.
rigsta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever you do, don't tell him about the internet. I don't think he could handle the shock.
OMG. Your not alone. I used ear plugs while living with a noisy roommate. A year after I moved out of that place i was board at work and while prodding the outer cartilage of my ear i feel something slid part way out of my ear. I touch it while very alarmed, and feel a familiar plastic nub. I pull it and out pops one of the ear buds I hadn't used since living with that roommate.
I had a pregnant patient who SWORE she took her birth control pills as prescribed, faithfully. Doubting, I asked her to show me (to make sure she was taking one at a time etc). She then carefully placed the pill in her vagina. Sheesh
Nekketh ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had someone like that when I was working at a pharmacy - a lady came in wanting six Ventolin (Salbutamol if America doesn't have Ventolin) at once because apparently it wasn't working (in Australia you can get it over the counter). We're only allowed to give two. I asked her why she thought that it wasn't working, and how she administered it to herself.
She then proceeds to spray the inhaler twice on her neck, holding her breath and all. Every staff member in line of sight was trying so hard not to collapse onto the floor laughing.
How does someone get given an inhaler and then think they need to hold their breath to administer it? Not only is she administering it incorrectly, but she is actively preventing the medication from working! FFS
Nekketh ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The breath holding is correct - you're supposed to hold your breath after inhaling the medication for 5-10 seconds, but the fact that she was spraying it on her neck while holding her breath made it funnier.
Something tells me that she only got half the story on how to take the medication.
In Brazil you can go to a health center and get free birth control. A friend who is a medic works at one told me this one.
He gives instruction to the woman on how to use and tells her that when it's finished she must come again to get more.
2-3 months later she turns up pregnant. He asks her why she didn't come back to get more. She said that the pills weren't over yet. Even though she was correctly instructed she thought she only had to take it on the days she had sex.
Fwanc ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it makes her feel better my ex boyfriend thought the same and he grew up in Australia where we have sex ed and healthcare and TV.
kashalot ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually works. That's what OBGYN's recommend when the patient is nauseated/vomiting. Sex hormones are lipophillic (fat soluble) and can be absorbed through a mucous membrane (even skin if prepared right, they make patches). So she was either lying or she didn't put the pills far up enough and they fell out.
Seicair ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:40:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, as soon as I read this I was thinking "...wait... A little unconventional, but that should work, right?"
kashalot ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:02:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep sure does. A little unconventional but if you're nauseated for whatever reason (some women become nauseated from taking the pill itself) it works. Some of these women don't want an implant or an IUD so it is a smart alternative to prevent unwanted pregnancies in this patient population.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In her defense, I read the full instruction sheet that came with my BC pills one day becasue, eh, why not, and it does say that if the pills make you sick and you can't keep them down orally, you should put it in your vagina...
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:32 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma did the opposite for a yeast infection. She swallowed the tablet that's supposed to go in your vagina and who knows what she did with the cream.
I'm pretty sure my grandmother is the person in all these stories.
She fainted the other day. She's on dialysis and is supposed to stay away from red meats and sodium.
When my mom asked what she ate she said a ham sandwich.
It's only now that it's actually threatening her life, but this is what she's been doing for years, even with insurance and a very well paying job at a hospital.
My grandmother and yours should get together. About 9 years ago, my grandmother was admitted to the hospital because she had extremely high blood pressure and a slow heart beat. The doctors told her she couldn't have any salt. A week later, we were all eating dinner and my brother sat in what was usually Grandma's seat. As soon as he took a bite of his food, he made such a face that those facing him knew something was wrong. Being a weirdo, he kept eating despite the taste and after dinner he told us that the dish was coated with salt. Apparently, Grandma figured if we didn't see her put the salt in her food, no one would know the difference. From that point ok, we'd wait for her to sneakily pour salt all over her dish and then dump the salt on the floor.
When I worked as a nurse in urgent care, we had a guy with a bad abrasion on his leg stemming from a fall down a flight of steps. He was prescribed a topical cream, among other things. Directions on the tube: apply to the affected area. Sounds simple enough, right?
Follow-ups, we notice the wound was gross and not healing at all. He insisted he put the cream on the affected area and it just wasn't working for him!
The doctor suspected something, so he had the patient demonstrate how he applied the cream so we can maybe offer some further help. The patient says he can't, because we're not at his house.
And that's where the stairs are.
This man was rubbing the cream on the stairs he fell down because the instructions said to "rub on affected area."
I don't blame you. I wanted to leave the room when he said that.
hicow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:53:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this dude wasn't otherwise evidently DD? I mean, most of these I can understand, people are poorly educated and whatnot, but WTF was going through this guy's head as to how rubbing cream on his stairs was going to heal a wound on his body?
To be fair, sebaceous cysts can look like potential nasty sores to lay people.
As far as the STI part, the pt may have been having activity, or may have just been so shocked/lectured by the "don't get STIs" speeches that he forgot where STIs typically show symptoms.
adalida ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was like 12, before I had ever so much as kissed anyone, I got an ingrown pubic hair. Definitely had a moment of panic: "but how could it have...is that toilet seat thing possible?!"
sevjac ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:01:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is quite possible to get HSV-1 on skin throughout the body. While HSV-2 is generally the genital form that people think of in relation to STDs it could be what he was referring to.
Not a doctor but a veterinary nurse: During the first Gulf War a soldier came in with his cat. It was still as board--as if the cat was made of plastic. He was a military intelligence officer, yet he still did not know his cat was dead. I hope he did not get PTSD considering how unfamiliar with death he was.
[deleted] ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 00:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope he did not get PTSD
I think the possibility he was already way beyond that line could exist here.
At 18 a vet nurse (and a brand spanking new one to our area, she and the vet were related somehow and used to dogs and cats, not livestock. They learned fast though) had to physically take my pet goose away from me. On some level I think I knew she was dead (She was cold and limp) but I just couldn't face it. I'd lost my stepdad, my childhood dog and an entire litter of kittens in the span of the last two months and then my goose got savaged by a dog and died on the way to the vet.
I wasn't handling things well, the nurse was so nice and the vet was amazing too. I know they thought I was an insane person, but they still helped me. (They even helped me get my damn cat fixed. Every time I took the cat in to be spayed she was pregnant again and the other vet wouldn't do it while she was even the slightest bit pregnant or in heat. The new folks did her a week after a litter was born and sent me home with bottles to rear the kittens and a discount flyer to get them fixed when the time came. I bottle fed them for about a week, then my cat took back over. No more kittens came of their family line, I got five kittens fixed for $200.)
Re: The Goose, I got the sweetest card with geese on it wishing me peace for my lost girl and a Xmas ornament of webbed footprints from them when I took my cat in.
Come to think of it, other than the jackass who told me my little dog could NOT get heartworms because little dogs are immune so he would not sell me the preventives or do a test(spoiler alert, she got heartworms, it was awful, she is cured now thanks to an awesome clinic and as soon as the snow melts enough to drive she is getting her preventive for January) and the one who wouldn't fix my cat, I have always had awesome vets and vet staff tend my animals. And the guy who wouldn't fix my cat wasn't bad as much as he was kinda weird, super pro-life and handed out pamphlets on abortion in his office. Good for vaccines though and was great for fixing our male animals but my damn cat was his hill to die on.
I choose to believe this is due to people in that line of work naturally being better people in general because I'm fairly sure its not luck. So thanks.
Seicair ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't really expect to cry in this thread.
hicow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We took our dog in to get spayed when I was a kid a while after she'd had a litter of puppies. The vet said he thought she might be pregant again, but no worries, they'd take care of it while they were spaying her.
Sorry for all your losses. The goose hit me hardest, I think, as I didn't think geese got friendly with people :(
I miss my geese, they absolutely get friendly. But only with their own people, there's no dog I have ever met as determined as a goose to remove someone who "does not belong". Mine really liked to attack my meth head cousin.
We have no idea, they lived about four days then all were dead one morning. The mother was frantic, some idiot told me animal don't have emotions. Bullshit, she grieved her kittens.
I was 5 years old and I would often bring in the neighbor's cat in the morning. One day I go to pick him up, he's dead. Someone shot him. I told the neighbor the cat's dead. She didn't believe me. Told me to get him. I said he's stiff as a board. She again didn't believe me. So I pick him up, stuffed under my arm and walk up to her. Luckily she wasn't like this guy, when she saw how I was carrying him she started bawling.
"Sir, this cat is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late cat. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just started singing the count of monte Christo simply because of that furrrst sentence. Actually follows the cadence well.
riptaway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:41:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intel officers aren't on the front line
rigred ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In medical school, I did a forensic psychiatry rotation. Part of this rotation involved working at the courthouse trying to do assessments of people accused of crimes in an attempt to see if they were competent to stand trial. Sometimes those with severe mental health issues obviously aren't competent to stand trial. Sometimes, those accused were obviously trying to fake being mentally ill to try to get out of the trial. But in a few cases, there were people with some issues, but they weren't really bad issues, they just needed a little education on the US judicial system and how it works. So they put together a class on the judicial system for the prostitutes of DC with no mental health issues, but just no education on how a trial works.
And who would be the best person to lead these classes? The rotating medical student of course.
"So, my name is medical student Knight_in_gale, and we are here today to talk about how the trial system works. Let's start with going through the courtroom and talking about who is who. For instance, who is the person who sits behind the big bench at the head of the room?"
"The judge!"
"That's right! And what does the judge do?"
"He says 'ORDER IN THE COURT!'"
"Yes...he does. But he also is the person in charge of the trial, and in many cases he is the person who you need to convince that you are innocent of a crime. Who is the lawyer that sits next to you."
"He's the fucking man!"
"Yes, he is. He's your defense attorney. He is there to help you plead your case about why you are innocent or why you don't deserve a harsh punishment. Who is the other lawyer in the room?"
"The prostitution!"
"No, actually, you are the prostitution in this case. He is the 'prosecution', though to be fair some people don't see much of a difference."
That was a long rotation. I learned a lot about the difference between doctors and lawyers, and how being uneducated leads not only to poor medical care, but also to not being able to defend yourself in court.
"No, actually, you are the prostitution in this case. He is the 'prosecution', though to be fair some people don't see much of a difference."
Haha nice. I'm an attorney who stole a friend's job after she moved over to the prosecutor's office for some inexplicable reason. I'll have to link this post to her.
Surprising number of people that don't know that a broken bone and a fractured bone are the same thing. You try to tell them in layman's terms that a bone is broken. Immediate response is , "well, at least it's not fractured." Other times, you say, " yes, your bone is fractured." In a relieved tone, they reply, " at least it's not broken." There is no winning here.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:59:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, hold up.
I was under the impression that they where were different.
I fracture is when the bone is fractured, but not displaced.
A break is when a a bone is broken through and/or displaced.
I have never seen the work "break" used to describe a fracture by any medical professional, and I work in an operating room doing orthopedics all the time. Break is a layman's term.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:06:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Break is a layman's term.
I get it now.
So it is โ
fractured and displaced = fractured.
fractured but not displaced = fractured.
I guess break or broken, as I understand it, is just a simpler way of describing the type of fracture.
Yeah. We have lots of adjectives we use to describe fractures, like displaced, non displaced, comminuted, etc.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got it. A dusty cog wheel in my brain turned at your use of the phrase 'layman's term'.
Break or broken in layman's terms would describe certain types of fractures which would not include greenstick or fissure in which are not bones that have broken all the way through.
Patient's brain.
Fracture = Greenstick or fissure: Oh yeah, that'll buff out.
Break = Oblique: Gonna need a new driveshaft.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think what you may be looking for is compound fracture. That's when the bone breaks so bad it tears through and pokes out of the skin, and is likely broken in more than one place. Hairline fracture<spiral fracture<fracture<compound fracture. I didn't learn them all, 'cause I'm lowly on the food chain, but these always got me by. Also, I'm an old fuck, and terms change with time and place.
Don't worry, though. We've all been wrong all our lives. The only hope we have is that we are less wrong with time.
EDIT: after reading the rest of the thread I'm starting to think that displaced fracture is maybe the better term. Like I said - less wrong over time.
I watched an old rerun of a show that follows doctors in an ER. This girl had a lacerated liver, and her parents were asking a doctor what happened. They got there after their kid was in surgery. What they got out of it was "So now that she had the surgery done, we'll find out if the liver is lacerated or if it's torn" and they just patiently explained again what was going on.
The same doc had to explain to someone that their daughter had a massive brain injury. Two doctors had explained it to them, but they still didn't understand what was going on until the guy broke it down into very simple terms. You could see on his face, very briefly, that he's thinking "what, 2 doctors already explained this already!" then his compassion kicked in and he was very nice to the people. I don't even think the people realized he had that second of thought.
I think the majority of people don't understand most of the terms used in medicine.
iznotiz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:15:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You came to this conclusion by watching a TV show.
Any bone that is broken is a fracture. Fractures can be further classified, stress, non displaced or stable, displaced, transverse, oblique, compound, comminuted, lateral, spiral, green stick, etc.
Lurlur ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:40:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(Hey Hatefully!)
I always demonstrate this point by asking people which is worse, a break or a fracture?
Break? OK, so I'll just walk off this compound fracture!
Fracture? This green-stick fracture doesn't seem as bad as a broken femur, but OK!
Someone told me they broke their collarbone in two places and fractured it in one place. The rest of our 8 hour shift was dedicated to her trying to prove me wrong...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lurlur :-)
I figured you would know this.
I've conceded that that a break is just a way of explaining certain types of fractures.
I wish medical professionals every where the best of wishes on converting the masses :-)
Lurlur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:50:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The masses often prefer their ignorance. I just don't like when I have to convince a medical professional!
(hugs, Hatefully)
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The masses often prefer their ignorance.
Damned if this ain't true. Complicating the lives professionals everywhere.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will stand in awe of the person who walks off a compound fracture. (Or is there some less severe version of technically compound fracture I don't know about?)
Lurlur ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:00:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've skipped the meaning of my comment.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:31 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, not intentional. Although, I admit I do it intentionally sometimes, too.
venlaren ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was always my understanding as well..... but now that I think about it compound fracture is definitely a displaced break.... But Yeah I always took fracture to be more like stress fracture or partial break.
I thought a fracture was when the bone had a break in it that didn't go all the way through (Like a hairline fracture). And a broken bone was when the break went all the way through. I figured since there were two different words that there was a difference... Am I wrong?
Edit: after a bit of googling I am indeed wrong. Well TIL.
When I was 6 I broke my arm pretty badly. While it didn't break my skin, you could see it was broken even before I had an x-ray. When I was 7, I "fractured" my other arm. When I mentioned my broken arm, my parents would tell me "it's not broken, it's fractured."
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair: If it's fractured, it is most definitely broken.
i thought fractured = broken but not all the way through
tuki ยท 1432 points ยท Posted at 22:33:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christ, the number of times I have to explain colds to adults. You're 40 years old, you've probably had 100 of these, how have you not figured this out yet?? Do you come to the doctor every time??? Antibiotics won't help, drink fluids, sudafed, and write this shit down for next time
also, I need a doctor's note for missing work. Yes, I'm an adult. Yes, I know its ridiculous.
LazyWings ยท 512 points ยท Posted at 00:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. It's naive to think that people are so stupid they go to the doctor for a cold but the truth is it's just bureaucracy making you go. If you're too ill to work due to a virus you still have to go to the doctor to "prove" you're ill.
I love this logic. "You're too sick to leave your house to come to work." "You'd better leave your house to go to the doctor to prove it, or you're getting written up!"
My boss/work thought I called in too many times, so then I had to have a note every time I called in sick. Oh, I was full time so I got sick pay but you know that doctor you made me see yeah it cost a days wages to pay him for that doctors note/office visit. Super fun to sit there for an hour or so and wonder what what else I was getting exposed too/ exposing other people to my cold/flu/what have you. Then I pay for medicine on top of it but I'm having lots of fun not being at work......
fritopie ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$25 copay for me. Plus the doctor will prescribe me the good shit that actually works when it comes to shutting down the snot factory enough so I can sleep. If they'd sell that shit OTC or if I could just call up my Dr and be like "Yo, I've got a fuckin cold. I know it. You know it. Your receptionist knows it. None of y'all want it so I'm not going bother showing up. Here's my $25, call in that script plz. Kthanxbye."
Look into something called Teladoc. We have this on our plan. You don't have to go anywhere to get a prescription done.
vizard0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My insurance pushes using something like this. It costs them less and thus costs me less. (I think it's $8 or so through them.)
fritopie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like it's something you have a paid subscription to? If my insurance doesn't cover it, I'm not willing to pay for it really. Not for something as minor as this. I'm young, healthy, and I get sick maybe once every 2-3 years.
Oh wait... I found this on google "At $40 or less per consultation, Teladoc costs significantly less than urgent care and emergency room visits. Plus, you can use Teladoc from the convenience of home or work, allowing you to avoid the hassle of sitting in a waiting room." Eh... sorry my copay is only $25 and my doctor is pretty good about his scheduling so there's rarely more than a 5 minute wait in his office. And if I'm feeling bad enough to go to the emergency room... then I probably belong in the emergency room. Now if my psychologist could do something like this... I'd be game. I have to go look at that fucker every 4 months for him to tell me "alright, well... we will just stick with this as long as it's working. here's your crazy pills."
Also, employers can only require a sick note after 7 days of absence:
Employees must give their employer a doctorโs โfit noteโ (sometimes called a โsick noteโ) if theyโre off sick for more than 7 days in a row (including non-working days).
Anything less than 7 days is self certified.
Ahundred ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like any time a discussion around employment matters comes up on reddit, people affected by bullshit policies and borderline illegal rules won't be working high paying jobs with plenty in savings, they'll be people on low income working paycheck to paycheck. And those asshole employers know it.
It's all well and good having the law on your side or a solid case to sue, but who pays the bills when you're suspend/fired pending litigation that will take YEARS, then blackballed in that industry in that area for causing trouble?
I used to have to do this tons for common colds or gastro it got the point where my family doctor would simply say ring me at the clinic and I'll email you a sick certificate
You can print and if they have issues your boss can call me directly where i'll tell him to get fucked because I can't talk about your sickness.
i think it was more because a) they bulk billed so they could charge me without charging me personally the the government pays them and b) theyd rather i not waste their time with a 20 minute visit for something they cant really do anything about e.g. the flu were you need bed rest.
We knew this doctor pretty well. He saw my mum when she first found the limo that developed into Breast cancer, and was there after the removal for follow up appointments so we saw him
Pretty regularly.
This was one of the few good things about my mother growing up. She was a nurse so she had access to doctors to write me notes for school so that my absences wouldn't count.
Missed a ton of school without it holding me back (still graduated with honors and did all of my missed work I just hated waking up early).
No because we had notes so why would they invoke a note rule to stop me?
The note rule was for kids playing hookie without notes. That rule existed when I went into school already. So I followed the rule and got a bunch of notes which meant technically I never missed a day of school according to their system.
My point is that you gamed the system in the way the note rule is meant to prevent. You played sick so you could get out of school and your parents were enablers.
I'm all for people taking a mental day off work or school every once in a while, but people like you who don't go because you "don't feel like getting up early" is the reason the dumb rule exists in the first place.
Punish the masses for the sins of the few... I hate those kinds of fucking policies. Grow some balls and punish the ones you know are breaking the rules!
whats worse is when its impossible to get an appointment soon enough, so you go to work while you're sick, and then by the time you get to the doctor you're better.
housecall time!
the system where I am you just say you need a work note when you book the housecall then they basically just stop by to drop it off and make sure you're not dehydrated. Max 5 minutes and I don't pay!
This is a sad reality. Instead of letting them stay home and recuperate, employers will make sick people haul themselves to a clinic and expose other people to their nastiness. I know doctors that will send harshly-worded sick notes to employers with their patients with words to that effect.
Who cares about the rest and recuperate part, from an employers point of view? I'd be way more concerned about somebody coming to work and infecting my entire workplace. Now you have 20+ employees half assing everything because they can't breathe and can't see properly.
At the worst of my food service career, I had a good coughing-fit respiratory bug but was forced to come into work under the threat of being fired. I came in with a cold another time and was scolded for ducking into the backroom to blow my nose and wash my hands.
On other occasions, I was scolded for taking time to remove my apron to take the (often dripping) trash out and to go to the bathroom, and taking time to wash my hands whenever I came back on the floor from these tasks.
The reason? "My ass is on the line for every transaction you don't make." Ah, food service.
willputh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't say how many days I went to work absolutely sick as a manager completely hopped upon meds because there is no such thing as "days off." I don't miss it in the slightest, except for human interaction. It turns out Siri is not as fun to talk with as real humans.
Egh I was at work one day and started throwing up, luckily I managed to get to the bathroom in time each time I was ill. So I mentioned to my boss that I was ill and should probably go home and see a doctor. I got asked if I could just "suck it up"
I had a boss once who said that if you can drag yourself to the doctor, you can drag yourself to work. No sick days were allowed, period... unless you were literally hospitalized.
In that case, you could take unpaid time.
(Before the storm ensues, this was about 6 or 7 years ago, and since then, my state mandates 3 days of paid sick leave for all employees. No clue on jerk boss's stance since then, it was a short-term gig for me and I never looked back.)
treycook ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:45:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you can drag yourself to the doctor, you can drag yourself to work
He's absolutely right though. You can drag yourself to work.
Bad news for him is that you can also get him sick, your coworkers sick, you productivity and concentration suffers, you're more prone to making costly errors that have to be fixed, or if it's a physical job you're more prone to getting yourself injured and then he has to pay workman's comp.
But hey, you know, you can physically transport yourself to work!
NoDoThis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:31:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man I wish my doctor would. I had to ask my dad to drive me to the doctor because I was so sick a few weeks ago. I'm in my early 30's.
I told my boss, "I can't come in, I can't really be more than 10 feet from a toilet right now."
"We'll need a note."
I almost wish I had thrown up or shat all over my dad's car, I absolutely would have brought them a bill for the cleaning.
I really like my workplace - you only need a doctor's certificate for >3 consecutive days or if you already spent ~7 sick days in the current year without a cert.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:39:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to do this once and just told the doctor right away, yes I know antibiotics won't fix this but I'll be facing a shitshow at work if I don't have a doctors note for the absence, yes it's stupid.
I think the doctor just felt kinda bad for me so she gave me a note for like 2 more days off than what was really necessary for a cold.
I've asked for doctors notes, but only with people that claim they are going to the er and those who are habitually sick. Either they have some serious health issues and need to see a doctor, or they are lying.
I hated this from work that required it. One doctor just wrote the note on a prescription pad. My boss didn't believe it because it didn't have an official letterhead, so he called my doctor and they refused to speak to him (HIPAA and all). He counted this as me making it up, I got fired.
rigsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what. Can't you self-certify for the first three days?
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one thing I really like about the practice I go to is that if you let them know beforehand that you need a note the doctor doesn't give you shit about it.
meowqct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28 and will be attending a private college in March in Canada. They advised me that a doctor's note is required....
I need a doctors note for anything and everything at my work. I swear it's like they like paperwork.
smidgit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At my place its self certification for 1-2 days (basically a note saying yes I have the illness) and any longer its a doctors note (because then we get statutory sick pay from the government)
When I was partway through my nursing school program, the administration tried to change the rule so the students had to get a provider's note for even ONE day missed of clinicals. Most of the professors were nurse practitioners so it didn't fly. Most of them were not just professors and researchers but were still seeing patients in the community. They thought the work-note thing for ONE day of missed time was asinine (it was a pet-peeve for them at their practices) so there was a big fight. Also, duh, we were in clinicals with vulnerable patients and our clinical sites didn't want us coming in sick. And the school insurance was so horrible that we only got one free Dr.'s appt a year. So, yeah, we didn't want to waste it on getting a stupid note for a cold. The email we got telling us nursing students about the new rule was followed up in two days with a contrite "never mind" email.
My old job required a doctor's note for a single day absence. It was fucking ridiculous. I'm an adult, I know when I'm fucking sick and mostly I'm taking a day off so I don't infect everyone else.
My employer has a "no-fault" attendance policy. Meaning they don't care why you aren't coming in but you can only miss 6 days in a year. Even a doctor's note won't save you if you miss more than that. Also, I live in an "at-will" employment state so you can and will get fired for missing more than the allotted 6 days a year.
That is just infuriating. My mother and grandmother will also share each other's antibiotics "just in case". I've tried to reason with them. They are NOT capable of understanding that not all infections require diabetics, and that just taking antibiotics profilactically is not effective.
I have the same argument with my boyfriend's mom every time!
ME: "Oh I'm not feeling all that great, I think I'm just getting a little cold."
HER: "Do you want some antibiotics? I still have some somewhere around here from the last time I was sick."
(BTW This means she either A.) Didn't finish her prescription, which is a no-no or B.) Got the prescription called in and was felling better by the time she picked it up because she had, you know, a cold.)
ME: "Well, no, thanks. Antibiotics won't do anything because it's a virus not bacteria. You don't take antibiotics for a cold, you just have to wait it out."
HER: (gives me this look like I'm just a sweet dummy that doesn't know what I'm talking about. Why would her doctor give her a prescription she didn't need??)
It's so aggravating. I understand that it sucks to have a cold and you want something to make you feel better but antibiotics aren't the answer. Doctors that write prescriptions for them for every illness are doing their patients a disservice by not explaining how they work.
Oh man, I'm using that pigeon thing later. That is great.
I don't think anything is more infuriating than trying to educate somebody who thinks you have no clue. It's worse when it's something you're very familiar with and the absolute worst when it's something you are formally educated about and/or related to your career. I paid thousands of dollars for people to teach me this now I get paid to know about it, but yeah sure my aunt's weird friend. You're totally right, I'm obviously wrong, and you should keep looking at me with that stupid patronizing expression.
Yes! I have a coworker like this. He will be totally 100% wrong and argue with me until the bitter end. I haven't figured out who is the bigger idiot- him for being wrong or me for not learning not to argue with him.
So my first semester of college my roommate was diagnosed with a sinus infection by the campus doctor. He gave her an antibiotic. She takes it and then an hour later starts complaining that it's not working. I tried to explain to her that's not how an antibiotic works and maybe she should rest. She scoffed at me like she couldn't understand how I even got into college. A few hours later she's on the phone to her doctor at home because she's still not feeling any better even though she took ONE antibiotic. So I'm thinking, good, the doctor will tell her these things take time and it needs to run it's course. But NO. He tells her the campus doctor is a quack and prescribes her a different antibiotic. Next day she gets that filled and takes one and proclaims that she's already feeling better. All I could do was nod my head and say "Of course you are!"
You're right, you can't always tell, but we've all had colds and generally know what they feel like. The general rule I've heard (don't quote me but it's something like) if you're not feeling better/start feeling worse after 3-4 days and/or you have a fever over 102F, go see your doctor. I'm not saying no one should ever go to the doctor if they have the symptoms of a cold, but rather really assess if you need medical intervention and give it a chance a chance to go away on its own first.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:15:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:25:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom's friend used to take cruises to Mexico every year and would bring back boxes (like 50-100 10 dose packs) of amoxicillin. We got that shit for every sniffle sneeze or cough. Mom knows better now but looking back makes me cringe.
Some doctors just want to get the patient out of there and move on, that's the fastest way. Some doctors' reimbursement is based on patient satisfaction, so they feel like they have to do whatever they can to make the patient happy so that they can get paid for their services.
I recently had a prescription for antibiotics (for something that actually needed them). I needed to take 450mg, so the doc prescribed X number of 300mg pill and X number of 150mg pills. Apparently they came through to the pharmacy as two separate prescriptions.
The pharmacist gave me the 150mg prescription, but wouldn't fill the 300mg prescription because they were out of 300mg pills. It took me close to 30 minutes to convince them that a) it was unsafe to give me only a portion of my prescribed antibiotics and b) they could just give me double the amount of the 150mg pills for the 300mg pill prescription. smdh.
In most cases the pharmacist would legally need to consult the doctor before changing the dosage form from the way way it's written. That's what the pharmacist should have done. It came in as two separate prescriptions, because it's two different strengths. The doc could have written something like take 1 every day in addition to 1 150mg capsule every day.
I get that, but they tried to just sell me the one prescription and send me away without any counseling on not starting it until I had enough or making sure that I got more in time to continue the dosing. I think, as a healthcare provider, that's super dangerous and unprofessional. If they had just said "hey we can't fill both right now, so you're not going to be able to start the course because you can't stop antibiotics early" so be it. To just give me 1/3 of my prescription and try to send me away... if I hadn't been clever enough to understand the issue that could have been problematic. (Not that I think I'm particularly clever but in my city especially, and really in general, they should be assuming people are dumb.)
My uncle is a hypochondriac. He's had "sinus infections" off and on for years and takes pseudophedrine so often he maxes out the legal amount you're allowed to buy every month (or whatever the time limit is). I am not a medical professional but surmise he may have allergies, because he gets pretty congested. He is a life long smoker and now vapes, which is, in his mind, practically a health treatment. He is not a person who takes personal responsibility at all for his problems.
He is on Medicaid and his doctors dole out antibiotics to him like it's candy. Yesterday, he was sick again and told me over the phone he got a Zpack. I rolled my eyes but figured, whatever it's done.
Today he texts me and says he's going back to the doctor because he doesn't feel better. I was thinking, yeah, no shit; it's been less than 24 hrs since you saw the doc AND you likely have a problem that can't be cured by antibiotics!
Anyhow, I know my uncle is probably just a pain in the ass to the point that whoever he sees just gives him the meds to get him out of their face, but I wish someone would stand up to him.
I feel like as a grown up I can't get a cold that doesn't wind up with me going to the doctors. It's 10 days later and I still have a fever over 102 and my throat is raw and bleeding from coughing, but still no bacterial infection. It happens once every year or two, and I know all that the only thing that can be done is steroids if it gets bad enough but... It's like...well..what else do you do?
Same here. I have a lot of allergies and sinus trouble. When I get the "common cold" I'm down for at least two weeks, closer to a month. If I'm still sick at the three week mark I'll go to the doctor. Usually still no infection but they do give me super cough meds and a decongestant.
You know they teach us how to not get sick (wash your hands, etc.) and what to do when you are sick (drink fluids, etc.) but aren't there any instructions for how to get LESS sick???
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would, but my shitty job requires a doctor's note for medical absences.
Might as well have you repeat it to me since I've gotta pay just the same.
Cymelion ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:12:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Australia we need medical certificates to get covered by sick leave.
So we have to trudge to the doctor out in public hacking and sneazing all to get a piece of paper that a doctor agrees we're contagious and should not be around other people to go home collapse and then bring the certificate into work when we're better.
OhSolios ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:10:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - and for asthma attacks. You can't get to the doctor until you're through it and you're so exhausted afterwards you just need to sleep for a day. So you get to the doctor once you're ok again. And yes, I know people will say 'call an ambulance ' but then you end up in hospital for a week.
archomps ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:37:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ha, jokes on you Mister Smart Doctor Man! It's called a cold - it's literally in the name. It's not your fancy "viruses" and "phages" and "twitterbooks," it's strictly about being in outside temperatures which weakens your immune system which allows the devil to infect your respiratory tract and make you cold. I bet you don't even know how to balance someone's humors. I could do more with a leech and a hammer than you could with all your fancy lab coats and noses stuffed with herbs.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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archomps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pfft, more fancy doctors and med students want you to believe this crap so they can get you to pay for fewer leeches and hammers.
The amount of people who think antibiotics will cure their cold is pathetic. Furthermore, the amount of doctors that prescribe antibiotics for colds is also pathetic, although I'm sure there reason is for greed rather than stupidity.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:26:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's greed as I don't believe doctors make much from writing a script for zpac. I think it's more like a person is following you around poking you repeatedly in the back with their finger. Finally you give them whatever it is to make them stop. Only to have someone else walk in and start poking you again. I think theyre tired of trying to explain and are just giving in.
Equally annoying are the ones that tell you to eat more vitamin C because it'll cure your cold. It may help your immune system a tiny bit but the only real cure for a cold is time and we are locked in at 1 second per second so ya gotta be patient.
My grandmother once bought me allergy medication when I asked her to pick up something for a runny nose. I have one obscure allergy to a bubble bath ingredient that no one uses anymore don't have allergies. I had to tell her that allergy medication is not recommended to treat cold symptoms, and that I don't even have allergies in the first place. She then tried to argue that I could be having an allergic reaction to my turtle.
Who is allergic to turtles?! And why would my only symptom be a runny nose?!
Antihistamines are in both cold medicines and allergy medicines that treat runny noses, so there is overlap, but your grandmother was still being ridiculous. (...allergic to your turtle. Seriously? It could happen, but as an argument that she'd bought the correct thing after all, that's a bit of a reach.)
I see people come to the ED all the time for this. "Chicken soup...sit on the couch...you know" "Yeah but I don't feel well" "Yeah...shrug you are sick"
Fever + Sore Throat - stuffy nose is a good indicator you have strep. Source: I had strep a few years ago and I had a high fever and a terrible sore throat and that's it.
Not a doctor, but a salesmen. I get incentivised to sell as much as possible, I lose my career otherwise. There are so many misconceptions about what liquids are good for you when you're sick and what liquids are not, and companies just take that and roll with it.
No, the Dole pineapple juice with 3 cups of sugar per liter will not hydrate you because the graphic looks fresh and says "Now with 25% more vitamin C". No, 6L of Ginger Ale will not hydrate you because it "Contains real ginger."
Water hydrates you. H2O. No, it dosen't taste like sugar, but it will stop you from passing out.
Unfortunately, the average person spends a lot more time with me then you.
I hate going to the doctor because I know they're going to say, "it's viral there isn't anything we can do,"
But I need a sick note, so I have no other choice.
Lachwen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had a cold that lasted almost two weeks. I went to the doctor because I needed something stronger than off-the-shelf cough syrup so I could actually sleep at night instead of staying up coughing.
He prescribed Tessalon. It worked wonders.
Also, I needed a doctor's note so I wouldn't get written up for not taking my sick self to work and spreading my viral bullshit to the rest of the office.
I used to get these! Some people seem to grow out of them (I think that's what happened to me?) but using a neti-pot nasal rinse thing also helped a lot, more than the antibiotics seemed to. Also humidifier, sudafed, and mucinex when it gets bad.
If you have allergies, nasal steriods like nasacort are kind of awesome and work better for me than the other products. But it seems like it's sort of a "try something till you find what works" kind of problem.
They usually get prescribed antibiotics so there's an expectation.
Mr_Fuzzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the worst cold/stomach flu combination right now. I've gone from being dizzy to nauseated to diarrhea for day and now have a racking cough and headache to boot.
Every. Single. Person. In my family has begged me to go to the doctor so they could give me something for it. Give me what? Antibiotics for what's probably a couple of viruses playing nasty with my immune system? Nope. Not wasting time or money on it.
To be fair, sometimes people who most likely have a cold and go to a doctor anyway is for the benefit of someone they are close to who has a weakened/compromised immune system
I work at a rehab/nursing home. The adult (African-American) son of a newish elderly resident got mad at me because his mom caught a head cold because "You gave her a shower and all African-Americans get chilly after a shower and that's why she got sick!" I tried to explain that that's not how the immune system works, or pathogenic illnesses, but he wouldn't listen to me. When her next shower day arrived, he wouldn't let me bathe her. :(
I always go in because I get bacterial sinus infections. I know exactly how they feel. I know the stages. I know the minute I get them. I go in because the doctor says come back in a week. Now I just say I had this for five days. Get my script and run the antibiotics. I get better near the end of the script. The few times I don't go I get extremely sick for a month. Then I end up getting a script.
In my defense, It was lasting longer then usual, and I was temporarily paranoid about medical issues as one co-worker had gotten a rediculous case of pink-eye in both eyes after refusing to go to the doctor for a week, and another was away for a while with some sort of bacterial respiratory thing for similar reasons.
They gave me a chest x-ray then sent me home and told me to take some advil
I go if I can't shake my cold. Sometimes I need RX scripts and sometimes it turns into a sinus infection. I have a lovely deveated septum that causes me migraines and sinus problems.
My husband wanted me to go to a doctor for a cold a couple weeks ago and got upset when I said that it would be ridiculous to go to a doctor for a cold.
monirod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom, who grew up in another country, believes that if you get a flu shot, you will not get any kind of sickness. Just last month, I called her and said she was sick and she said "but I got vaccinated, why do I always get sick after my flu shot?" I'm assuming she lets her guard down and thinks this time she won't get sick. I explain to her every year that it just protects from getting the flu, not always, but you can still catch a cold or other sickness.
Edit: forgot to mention my mom is in her 60's and has lived in the US for 40+ years.
Teomalan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, in order to take a sick day from work and stay home to get the rest the doctors want, I have to go to the doctors and get a sick note to excuse me from work for the day... my take home pay is a little over $60 a day and the doctor copay is $45...
What are signs that it isn't just a cold? Asking because my whole life I've been plagued with pneumonia and various chest/lung infections, so when I see my doctor for what I think is a bad cold, i usually end up on antibiotics. But sometimes it is just a bad cold and I feel awful for wasting everyone's time :(
Gravesh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. My family is always telling me to go to the doctor when I'm sick. I say every time "What are they going to do?". What do they expect? They aren't miracle workers and taking antibiotics for every sniffle is a good way to make sure they'll never work again for you as medicine in 20 years time.
I just had a coworker call out of work because she had "the full blown FLU."
Was she sick? Yes. Was she justified in calling out of work (we are travel consultants - our voice is needed to work)? Yes.
But she came back to work 1-2 days later.... She did not have the flu
I had the flu last year and I was sick for about 2 weeks. I couldn't think straight, much less take a cough drop and come back to work after a day or two. When you have the flu, trust me, you fucking know
Here in Korea, people go to the doctor for EVERYTHING. My coworker had a stomach ache and the boss thought it was crazy that he hadn't been to the doctor. The stomach ache passed in a few hours and he was fine.
Last semester I had class with an older guy who had to be 60 or so and was getting his fourth degree basically for fun. He was a nice guy and I was friendly with him, and during the semester colds were going around. I missed class and he asked where I was, and I told him I had a cold. He told me he also got a cold and went to the doctor for antibiotics which seemed to clear him up. I didn't have the heart to tell him that antibiotics don't do shit for colds and you really shouldn't take them unless you need them.
I spent a lot of time in and out of the hospital in 2015 and on a lot of antibiotics for numerous infections. If I didn't have antibiotics I would probably be dead right now. I don't understand why doctors prescribe them to people for a fucking cold.
I'm 18 and coming down with my first ever cold right now. Please kill me. This is pain.
kucky94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In New Zealand they have this things called ACC so if you have an accident and go to a private healthcare provider ACC will cover the cost. My mum is a nurse and said people would bring their children in for quite literally a grazed knee. She would very patronisingly talk the parent through what she was doing...."I'm going to wash the graze with an antibacterial wash then I'm going to put a plaster (band aid) on it and it's done".
When I was working I had to go see a doctor if I missed any time for even a cold or I'd be fired. Yes we had frequent absence because it was a call center with us tightly packed in so colds would rip through the place like crazy all the time, and yes we had a crazy high turnover rate and no I can't have time off to go see a doctor for preventative care...
Dude. Yes. I am not allowed to call in sick, I have to show up, 'prove' i need to go to sick call, drive across base to medical, wait for over an hr, maybe be able convince some LT that's 7 years younger than me and says I'm faking it that yes I'm sick, then go down to pharmacy and wait another 1.5 hrs, then if im lucky my command will honor the sick in quarters (sick day) recommendation from the doc. Drop off medical form to boss man, hope he says go home (yes they can deny), then go home and pray motrin and Sudafed works for whatever unearthly sickness got me this time.
fanamana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In many parts of america now you can't get any kind of sudafed without a prescription.
Now they use pseudo-Pseudoephedrine in all the OTC mixes and it is a fucking placebo.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think some people just psychologically feel better thinking someone is taking care of them.
I don't know about most people, but for my job I am required to get a note from a doctor if I call out sick. Mind you it is a retail job, but it is vaguely insulting to be treated like a child who needs a note to prove I was sick, but I can get denied my raise come review time if I don't get the notes, so there I am in the waiting room knowing all I really need is rest and fluids, but unable to just stay at home in bed cause my job treats me like a child.
Not a doctor, but my aunt is an RN (registered nurse) and she still swears to this day that women pee out of their clitoris. A mutual friend (who was studying to be an RN along with my aunt) got into a huge fight with her about it.
Just to say this apparently there is some lee way where your urethra actually is. I was helping a nurse install a catheter in a grown mentally retarded woman and the nurse said her urethra was actually at the front of that patients vagina.
Interesting. It's amazing how bodies differ between people. Also, please don't use the word "retarded" . It hasn't been an acceptable term for many years. A more appropriate term would be "learning disabled/delayed" or "developmentally disabled /delayed.
SnArL817 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:44:27 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reยทtard
verb
verb: retard; 3rd person present: retards; past tense: retarded; past participle: retarded; gerund or present participle: retarding
riหtรคrd/
1.
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
In this context, "mentally retarded" is absolutely correct. "Learning or developmentally disabled/delayed" is LITERALLY the same thing.
"Don't call that color red, it's offensive. Magenta is more appropriate."
THANK YOU for actually explaining your acronyms before using them. I hate it when people randomly throw a three letter thing into their post and expect everyone to know what that is.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:47:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mazon_Del ยท 1102 points ยท Posted at 22:27:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my favorite story from the last time this topic came up.
A woman came to her obgyn for an exam as she had an infection of some sort. The doctor did the exam and asked the usual questions "Are you sexually active, etc." and nothing seemed to obviously be the case. At some point though, the woman lets slip that she's sick and tired of dealing with this infection that she's had her whole life. That perks up the doctors antennae and so the doctor tentatively asked her which direction she wiped when she uses the toilet. This 30-something year old woman had been wiping back to front her whole life and didn't have any idea of the problems that could, and was, leading to.
This is not even as wild as some others but my entire vagina just clenched in sympathy. She spent her entire damn life in pain down there for something that could have been solved for a simple explanation? I'm mad on her behalf that nobody ever fucking said anything to her before you. Jesus fucking Christ. No more internet for me today.
Nackles ยท 242 points ยท Posted at 00:16:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I had ingrown toenails for YEARS and it was agonizing, and then someone was like "Don't cut your nails down into the corners." From that moment on, I've never had another one--like SERIOUSLY, some things you really should tell us!
Youthro ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you cut your nails, don't follow the profile of your toe so much. Make the end cut straighter than your toe, so the edges don't dig into your skin as they grow.
Youthro ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:35:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at my nails now, the sides curve pretty far down but it's not at all painful. I'll start cutting them correctly but do you think I should see a doctor? Common sense isn't helping me answer this question by myself. I'll definitely ask on my next appointment though, regardless.
the sides curve pretty far down but it's not at all painful.
Trust me, if your toenails were ingrown, you'd fucking know it. It's some of the most excruciating pain I've ever had. So bad that I dug it out myself because I couldn't wait the 2 days to see my doc. And then within 24 hours it was back to normal.
Yup. I performed surgery on myself using a heated steak knife because that was less painful than continuing with the damned thing. (It got infected and the doc would only give me antibiotics, and they didn't work.)
The antibiotics were probably for the infection, not the ingrown nail.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Zoethor2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most podiatrists I've seen won't do any removal procedures while there's an active infection, because the injections of the numbing agent can risk spreading the infection to the bone, which in turn carries the very real risk of amputation. So if you have an infection, you have to go on the antibiotics, wait till they work, then go back for the procedure.
Zoethor2 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:05:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, a severely ingrown toenail is some of the worst pain ever. It sort of has to be, because getting the numbing agent injected hurts pretty fucking terribly, too, so you really have to be at a point of desperation before that sounds worthwhile.
I've had 6 ingrown toenail removals, really hoping never to do it again.
Stubbing an ingrown toe is easily worse then getting hit in the balls.
Karranor ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:15:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hm... ingrown toenail, heavily infected: 4/10
Numbing agent injected: 5/10
Numbing agent failing to numb, proceeding with removal anyway: 10/10
I was pretty used to pain (my old friend), but that's an experience I never want to repeat. At least I learned from that during my next visit that I'm resistant to those standard numbing agents/painkillers and I need an extra large dose for it to work. Tying it back to the thread, I pretty much was the idiot who needed to be told that no, experiencing significant pain even with local pain block is not normal.
hicow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could get the nailbeds killed. Doc mentioned it to me when I had an ingrown toenail cut out. I leave them long now and I haven't had one since, but you should probably either grow your nails out (and I mean like just shy of Howard Hughes long) or just get the beds killed so the nails don't come back.
Zoethor2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully, the third guy I saw, who did all four sides of my big toes (some for the second time), was considerably better/more aggressive. My toenails look a little funny now, because there's an odd gap between the nail and the side of my toe, but the ingrown toenails haven't come back for about a decade.
Most of my little toes are some degree of ingrown, those I let grow out really long, and occasionally perform some home surgery to yoink out pieces if it hurts.
My dad made sure to specifically tell me that when I was old enough to cut my own toenails.
Here's another one: water hot enough to hurt is giving you a burn. Is a minor one, but still causing tissue damage to the horny layer of skin that holds your skin together elastically. That's why your hands are cracking: you burn them every time you wash them. Use lukewarm water. That's why your bacne (back-acne) never clears up: you're micro-cracking the skin that should be protecting its underlying layers from bacteria. Bathe in water that isn't painful, and when it warms up later in the shower, adjust it a bit cooler.
Seriously? I've had bacne (actually call it that too) for years and never would have attributed it to my shower being too hot. I mean.. I love a hot shower, but never hot enough to hurt.
Hot enough to make you wince when you first get in? I had bacne for two freakin' decades until I found this tip elsewhere, cleared up within days like magic.
I've also stopped putting my hands in front of the car heater vents, Instead switching just to ski gloves while driving. My hands used to crack along the fingerprint: painful and difficult to heal.
Same. I had three toe surgeries. THREE. Before I googled how to prevent them.
Also, for those who don't know: you can stick cotton wool under the edge of your toe nail (replace every day) to lift the toe nail and help it grow straight instead of into your skin. Saved myself from getting yet another ingrown toe with that info.
KaraWolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep trying to tell my husband this. He hasn't had a surgery yet, but keeps saying if he gets another he'll get a doctor to rip it off. DUDE. Just use cotton, I've even do it FOR you and quit mangling your nails. Though in his favor it's been a while since he's had a problem.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooo good one!! That sucks about them normally being painful though :(
TeniBear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:18:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, I'm going to try this one. My toenails aren't properly ingrown (except the fourth on both feet, but I was born with them like that and it's never bothered me) but they get a bit achy at times because they're curved.
I get pretty frequent ingrown toenails. I tried that advice and all I got was 4 really awfully infected ingrown nails. For years I've just been cutting the corners of the big toes really deep and if I ever feel any kind of pressure I cut the nail corner out before anything happens.
I know that cutting straight across is supposed to stop it from happening, but I've never had success when I tried it. It might really depend on the person.
Nackles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just straight across, it's also "don't cut too short." You get an ingrown toenail when the edge of the nail grows and pushes into the flesh next to it, so the real thing is to leave it long enough that when it does grow, it can't do that.
There are variations, I think it's mainly in how fleshy the part around the nail is.
Ivysub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has this problems and for a while I did too. He was told by a podiatrist to cut a triangle shaped notch in the middle of the nail, and it the nail would grow inwards enough to retract the sides a little.
I wasn't convinced but tried it because there was no harm in it. It seemed to work for me,. It needed to be done when I noticed it beginning, rather than when it had gotten to the point of being painful to the touch.
I tried that, and it did seem to help. Not 100%, but it definitely took some of the pressure off the corners. The main problem was that it was sharp and I kept snagging my sheets and clothes. Lol
I only figured this out recently after fixing a large toenail that kept getting ingrown to the point of causing a half inch split of pure callous. It's cut properly now and the callous is healing.
Hahaha I had one in college and I was an athlete. The trainer asked me if I cut square corners instead of round and I was like, "wat?" She looked at me like I was a dope but it was a top ten public university. I really just hadn't been told and went 22 years without one.
Nackles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and it's SO SIMPLE. Hell, teach your kids when you're teaching them to cut their nails in the first place--it's a small thing but it would save lots of worthless pain.
I figured that out through trial and error, for a year it was like having a period for my feet exacerbated by me cutting my toenails shorter and shorter every couple of weeks.
You can cut into the corners, you just need to be on that shit. I'm a compulsive clipper, and I haven't had an ingrown nail since I was a kid (back when I chewed them). Gotta check every other day or so.
It feels so good to cut it all the way down and pull off the side bits, but then it hurts so much when they grow back. ;-; I'm finally now in the habit of just cutting them straight across and not getting the side bits as well. The good feeling of pulling out the corners of the toenail isn't worth the weeks of pain when the nail grows back in.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to get one cut out when I was a kid. Shit was nasty. Since then, I leave the nails on my big toes long, because ingrown toenails suck ass.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:26:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think about it, we're taught at a very young age by, maybe one or two people over a very brief period of time how to wipe ourselves after using the toilet. After that it's never talked about or revisited again. If a child is taught incorrectly, or worse, not taught at all and forced to figure it out themselves, it will often take an event like the above to find out they've been doing it wrong all along.
If you think about it, we're taught at a very young age by, maybe one or two people over a very brief period of time how to wipe ourselves after using the toilet. After that it's never talked about or revisited again.
This is the reason for the whole "sitters vs standers" debate and the fact that neither side knows the other side exists.
You learn how to wipe yourself at one specific age when you're very young, and then you never revisit it again.
detourxp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, wasn't until my girlfriend (now wife) saw me wiping after taking a shit did I realize I was weird for sitting up from the toilet to wipe. I thought it was disgusting to learn people put their hands basically inside the bowl to wipe.
borygoya ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No front to back or viceversa. Side to side is the way to go.
qwints ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wipe front to back because I don't want shit on my balls. Sure, people repeat what they're taught, but god damn, I don't think it's too much to ask for people to apply even the tiniest bit of thought to such a basic process.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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iznotiz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:52:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please for the sake of baby jesus wipe the dangly bits.
I once came across something about the "most efficient way of wiping" or something like that, written by a man, that said it was better to start in the back and come forward. I was like, "this only works for half of the population; DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU HAVE A VAGINA."
I feel honored. This is, I do believe, the first time in my history here on Reddit that something I have said has brought forth the coveted "No more internet for me today." response. I feel accomplished and humbled by this event.
There was a plan to then post some sort of link to something far more disturbing, but honestly at this point in the day my mind is a pretty decent blank.
lddake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I have 2 daughters and when the older was potty training I hear my wife telling her, "always front to back, otherwise you get owies." Never entered my head until that point, but damn right!
I dunno I don't normally ask random women which way they wipe, but you're right. Tomorrow at the coffee shop, I'll ask everybody just to make sure they're doing it right.
Tbh, I don't either. I know the reasons why, it's just never been a problem for me. 30 year old, never had a yeast infection or UTI...
BTW, can we clarify that back to front is only vagina to urethra and not asshole to vagina to urethra? Because whenever someone brings up this topic I wonder if some people are seriously doing the latter...
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 01:17:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering the examples in this entire post, it's completely valid to ask if some people are actually wiping shit into their urethra. You can have your downvote back.
Furthermore, it's suggested in general that women wipe front to back to keep vaginal bacteria from causing a UTI (and to not push small amounts of urine back up the urethra). I've never heard the front to back conversation used to describe ass wiping. Ever.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:58:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first one you quoted says nearer to the rectum. As in maybe the paper is accidentally touching ass bacteria when wiping from vag to urethra. This is not talking about wiping your ass.
At this point, I'm getting the distinct impression no one is talking about the same thing on this topic, including doctors.
The direction being unimportant was for just urination wiping. The articles not behind a paywall in the lifehacker post both said wiping after urination.
I was thinking that she had a UTI, which are often from e.coli It definitely wouldn't have been a yeast infection or bacterial vaginosis. BV is from bacteria also already in the vagina.
I'm aware there is already candida in the vagina, but I've never had a yeast infection, so I assumed it was not just from an overgrowth if yeast, but said bacteria getting into the semi sterile urethra and multiplying in that environment. I was incorrect on that account.
alexr09 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:25:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
asshole to vagina to urethra
Umm... I'm pretty sure people know not to hit all of those stops in one wipe
Patients in this thread apparently don't know you have to put a penis in a vagina to get a baby. I'm now just waiting for the reddit museum of filth story about the unlucky man who finds the woman who wipes waaaaay back to front.
A Urologist posted and said that there'd been no conclusive studies supporting this. So it could just be lies. Certainly sounds plausible when you think about it.
OhioMegi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been told not too. You'd have to be doing a poor job of wiping to have issues anyway I would think.
NemoSum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually am a doctor, and a Urologist specifically. There is actually no good evidence that the direction that one wipes makes a difference in the frequency of urinary tract infections.
Reach your arm behind you and reach up to the "front" and then wipe back. I had a friend walk in on me taking a shit and wiping and laughed at me because I didn't reach down to my crotch to wipe. I finished pooping, came out of the bathroom and upon further questioning found that he wipes his ass incorrectly
Oh okay right, I read it wrong. I was seriously concerned. It's weird tho, that your friend notices how you wipe your ass lmao. Thanks for the clarification.
My Dad was around more when I was a little girl, Mom worked long hours. Thank God he's a doctor (even if it's in medical ethics and not actual medicine) because he was the one to tell me how to wipe (I was doing it wrong up until age 5 or so) and then showed me where to buy pads and tampons in the grocery store and pointed out the instructions and told me to read them word for word as a 13yo. I'd seriously be lost if he didn't have the guts to tell me that shit. I'm sure some Dad's would be too mortified.
Probably a single dad. My roommate is expecting and when I quizzed him, he said back to front. I made his fiancรฉ have a long talk with him about a lot of stuff about girls he never knew.
myBisL2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't recall ever specifically being taught this but it made sense to me. I can't remember why exactly but I was in the bathroom with my mom and out of the corner of my eye I saw her wipe back to front. I said something about it and she said that made no sense and it's just the way she does it. Well, alright...
This also seems like the kind of thing that, if true, would have been weeded out by natural selection, since its such a direct cause and effect between a simple action and a possibly fatal consequence. You'd think if this was an actual problem that women would have an instinct to wipe front to back built up through evolution.
My theories is that - millions of years ago - when humans were evolving on the veldt, we never encountered any shitty evolutionary psychology arguments. That is why we never evolved defenses against them.
Welcome to our strange...so terribly strange world, where those supposed to teach you say nothing, and you learn life's most important lessons from people with names like WeasleDickFace.
On the other side, there was an Army OBGYN who was convinced you could get chlamydia when you hadn't been sexually active for years, or even at all. Soon as I found out he said that to a few of my friends, I nope'd out and got the other doctor at the base clinic who had a clue. And they wonder why military hospitals have a high incident of birth complications with these morons doing the deliveries...
Up until maybe a year ago I wiped from the opening of the vagina up towards the clitoris because that's how I always saw my mom do it. It wasn't until I was commenting in a thread on Trollx that other women pointed out that might be an issue. It never even occured to me. I try to wipe differently now.
And I wondered why my gyn told me that when I had an infection one time. I was like, dude - no shit!! Of course I know that. Well, now I feel stupid that not everyone knows that.
I'm having a hard time finding sympathy for someone who thought smearing shit in your own vagina is common practice.
Hischoll ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 22:29:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor yet, but a friend told me once that pasta and tomatoes cause gastric cancer. Because she read it on a "healthy life-style" type magazine. She's 21.
lllola ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:12:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly what the bullshit reasoning behind that one is. A bunch of those weird health fads include not eating anything from the night shade family like tomatoes. Paltrow is one.
sbutac ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 01:18:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was consulted on a patient in the ER who had eye pain (I am an ophthalmologist, different than an optometrist). It ends up that he had worn a contact in his eye for 8 months without removing it. As if that wasn't bad enough, he had found this contact on the bathroom floor of a club...popped it in and it helped him see better. I didn't ask a lot more questions about the specifics. He had a rip roaring corneal ulcer. I gave him some antibiotic drops and set up a follow up. Didn't see him again until about 7 months later, when he showed up in the ER again after wearing a new set of contacts for 6 months. These ones he had found in a dumpster behind a drugstore, albeit they were unopened this time... We had another conversation about sleeping in contacts indefinitely.
adalida ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how people even do this. Mine start to actively hurt after about 12 hours of wear.
I honestly think idiots like this deserve to lose their vision. There's only do many times you can explain this shit. Do you wear your underwear for 8 months? No? Same concept.
When I was much younger (in college) and only slightly stupider than I am now, I pulled the "wearing contacts indefinitely" thing. It wasn't for lack of education regarding proper care, as much as laziness.
I got myself a lovely infection that felt like I had a shard of glass in my eye. I went to the ophthalmologist as soon as it started hurting, so it was caught relatively quickly, and combined with I'm sure a lot of luck, there were no lasting effects.
Never again. I make sure I never sleep with them, and if I'm in doubt, I toss them out. I always have my glasses as back up in case I have to do this while out and about. It was one of the most excruciating pains I've ever experienced. I like to think I learned a lesson that day.
I've had to see one of you before. For the same reason. Left my contacts in, went swimming in a polluted lake (didn't know that), and ended up getting an ulcer. Worse thing ever.
I had severe asthma as a kid. I was intubated for a sever attack a few times. My parents were instructed to take better precautions in our home and went through instructions, more dusting, washing bedsheets etc.. and the big one NO SMOKING inside the house. So my parents agree to all of this.
Few weeks later I'm back in the hospital. A doctor recognized me and came over to talk. Then he bent over and smelled my head (I'll never forget that. I thought it was so weird). He told a nurse to sit there and not let me leave with my parents. When my parents showed up he asked point blank:
"Did you not understand what I told you last time? Do you understand these attacks could be fatal?"
"But we open windows and have stopped smoking in her room when we put her to bed" :/
[deleted] ยท 1591 points ยท Posted at 20:52:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that that sub is reddit's go to for bad parenting.
I commented once about how when I managed restaurants I had a regular customer that would fill her toddlers sippy cup with Coke or orange soda. People responded by linking that sub.
A friend's brother ended up with a girl who had a kid (may or may not be his), and we're pretty sure the kid has fetal alcohol syndrome. At four years old, his teeth were rotted out from getting soda instead of milk, and he had massive behavior and developmental issues.
And the mom was actually a nice person, and loved her kid. It's just that she was a fundamentally very stupid and very ignorant person.
Sylfaein ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time we visit my husband's mother's side of the family, I have to watch VERY small toddlers--and last time, even an infant--drinking soda. This damn fool cousin of his had Big Red in a bottle for a baby. I wanted to scream.
Couple of his aunts tried to convince me to let our daughter have some, when she was about 18 months. Same day, one of them commented on said daughter having more teeth than she did...gee, I wonder why...
helm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, kids are supposed to get 20 teeth, goddammit.
i remember being 8 visiting my ghetto Buena Park cousins and see my little <2 year old cousin in a high chair eating fruit loops with pepsi...he lives in Ohio now.
jeggo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a second. Like fruit loops and pepsi in a cup.... Or was the... Pepsi replacing.... the milk?
replaced the milk and a cup of it...
that kid's mother, last i saw a year ago, claimed she was on a diet and can have only one pepsi per day
jeggo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I saw any of my cousins doing that they'd get a swift foot in the ass. Reminds me of a guest dentist speaker back in high school health telling us about "Mountain Dew Mouth" and how he'd see toddlers with Mountain Dew in sippy cups... Some people....
I mean growing up (like toddler + and out of diapers and walking and what not) rarely as a treat I'd get like... Sprite. Then again I also do recall going to a BBQ when I was like 5 and I had like 4 cans of Surge XD
That was one of the hardest things to do as a server, putting soda (in my case Mountain Dew) into a toddlers sippy cup. Like, he isn't old enough for a straw but he is old enough for that sugar caffeine high? I don't understand why anyone would EVER intentionally do that. It sounds horrible for the parents as well, why amp him up??
The "sugar high" is a myth. Consuming huge amounts of sugar being bad for you is emphatically not, but it's not because it gets you high, it's because our evolution didn't prepare us for such a diet.
edit: I notice you also mentioned caffeine and may have even been mostly condemning feeding that to a child, but I really want to *quash that sugar myth.
You come and give my 3 yr old a cup of soda or bag of candy/lollies/sweets, and then he can squash your no sugar high myth!
Sugar seriously messes with my son, never has with my daughters, but it sends my son loopy.
I was once on a flight and watched a sky waitress give the kid next to me 4 cans of soda over a couple of hours.
A little while later, I'm in line for the bathroom, and there is the sky waitress with the kid, who is jumping up and down, and she asks me to let the kid into the bathroom ahead because it was an emergency. I told the sky waitress that maybe if she hadn't given the kid 4 cans of soda......
The sky waitress responded with "well she kept asking for them!"
geez......
edit: It's not the sky waitresses job to give the kid soda, she should only serve the mom. The mom really needed to be responsible for her child.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:06:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck do you want her to do? It's her goddamn job to give sodas to people who ask for them.
To the parents, no the children themselves. The parents should be the only ones ordering or delivering drinks to their children.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:31:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's probably not how the airline's rules work.
LeJoker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it was: it is not the general population's job to parent all nearby children.
It's shitty that the kid is going to grow up fat and unhealthy because the parents don't understand how basic nutrition works, but it isn't the flight attendant's (to show some goddamned respect to a service profession by using its name, for Pete's sake.) job or anyone elses to stop that parent from being a shitty parent.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not the one saying it is. The guy I'm talking to seems to think it's the flight attendant's fault that the kid had four cokes. I don't.
LeJoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, sorry. I'm aware it wasn't you. Just adding onto what you're saying :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I misunderstood. Sorry if my reply was a bit testy.
One of my cousins (by marriage, thankfully) fed her baby jalapenos and serrano peppers because the dad is Mexican-American. She seemed to think that the kid was born tolerant of spicy food because of her heritage. That was one of the first times CPS was involved.
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:30 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time my wife gave her youngest some jalapeno slices, he shuddered and shook, so they ran him to the bathroom thinking he was going to vomit. He squealed with happiness and said, "MORE!" I think he was 18 months old at the time.
that sub is sort of a place where we all share our abusive parents, N or not
Boden ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it just me or do they define "narcissist" as "all shitty parenting things ever"?
Smarag ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:29:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be surprised how connected these two things are.
Also you people never read the sidebar, we use "narcissist" as a catch all term:
in this space, "narcissist" is a term used loosely to refer to a variety of conditions, and is not used in a clinical sense.
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 00:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why use it as a catch all term? I get that narcissism does not necessarily equate to full-blown NPD, but it's still a very specific type of assholery. Wouldn't something like r/emotionalabuse make a lot more sense for some of these cases?
Smarag ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why is trees a weed subreddit? because its catchy and easy to remember.. Really nothing more to it. The important thing is the support and the people. Would I like a more accurate name? sure why not. but do I really care how I call the assholes we hate? Naaah there are way more important things to think about.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:28:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would agree that it's catchy, and it's great that people are finding support in that sub. But unlike r/trees, they're misusing a clinical term, which seems potentially harmful.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is really stupid because the sidebar also has a list of narcissistic traits, as well as a "Please assume a context of abuse" rule which is absolutely wrong when people go and post in there "My Mum made me eat my broccoli before my cheesecake and god it ruined me!"
iznotiz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do not EVER suggest that a JNM poster is causing their own drama/problems. No matter how nicely you word it, you WILL be banned. :)
Ya, I know. I had a comment deleted because I pointed out that a 90 year old man in a retirement home telling his daughter he didn't like the food there and asking her to bring a sandwich was less narcissistic than he was maybe hoping for a daughter who gave a fuck about him in his old age.
iznotiz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also throw out /r/justnomil like it's nothing. No, your Mother-in-law doesn't deserve to be excommunicated because she didn't read your mind and buy you the right style of ugg, jackass.
Right, I don't think Reddit knows what 'narcissist' means
98785258 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol right? That sub is so quick to diagnose narcissism. Like oh you're 28 and live at home and your parents have the nerve to charge you rent? They're narcissists, you should cut all ties and forget they exist. This is the crux of "support" subs. They all eventually turn into a circlejerky echo chamber where you only hear 1 side of an obviously embellished story where people are looking for others to confirm their beliefs. Spend 10 minutes on r/childfree and you'll see what I mean.
Well it's more that it started as narcissism and now covers much more.
98785258 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My main issue with it is that people post there with the sole intention of confirming their beliefs. You only ever get to hear one side of the story. And although there are some horrible parents out there, I'd say a majority of the stories there are exaggerated for the purpose of reinforcing their sense of victimhood.
It's worth pointing out that the sub uses the "narcissist" term as a catch all to describe all kinds of things. They note it in the sidebar.
Zidlijan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:37:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah i know, but people with BPD, NPD, ASPD and DPD have gotten real life consequences thanks to these subs, and by that i mean huge generalizations, having their illness equated to automatically being abusive and even being abused further by the people they post about in those subs.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:31:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/raisedbynarcissists is 50% people with simply terrible parents, and 50% people who inherited their parents neurotic and abrasive personalities and are trying to blame themselves becoming assholes on their parents.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:34:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's also the people who are narcissists and are trying to pin their own bad behavior on their normal parents
Pretty much, they could've been like my mom and smoked with me, at 2 months old with severe asthma, in the same room with nothing open. And to add insult to injury, spent the money she got from the government and the child support from my dad she was getting to buy all kinds of useless for herself like a large screen tv, (it was only a 40" but in 1994 that wasn't cheap) super expensive clothes and other stuff for herself. Meanwhile, the air conditioner for the house was broken and it was mid summer in Oklahoma.
namesrue ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 23:16:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people talk about taking away certain kinds of government benefits because of cases of fraud, I think they forget that those people have children. I know drug addicts whose children only ate because of those programs.
elbenji ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people who are most on welfare are children
gsfgf ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 00:30:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea other than SNAP and ACA Medicaid that may not exist in a year, pretty much all "welfare" dollars only go to families with children. (And SNAP is still heavily weighted toward families) Even if the parents are fuckups, the kids still need to eat. That's the whole point.
Yep, it IS heavily weighted towards families, so if you're smart enough to not breed, and lose your job, you have to be REALLY FUCKED before the system that you'd paid into for years gives a fuck. But if you spread your legs and keep having babies? At least in my county? Government makes it rain. And the kids are still, often, underfed and not well cared for.
I'm gonna assume you don't know any of those families for whom the "Government makes it rain."
Copied/pasted from something I posted elsewhere, earlier
"In most parts of the US, you don't get a stipend for housing; if anything you'll get section 8 digs in the projects. Food stamps are insufficient to live on, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) has a six month maximum, and is basically a loan against future child support payments.
Unemployment/disability notwithstanding, nobody gets free cash from the government, and even those are supposed to come from payroll taxes and the like.
Medicaid is the main expense in most states and is for newborns and new mothers, the disabled and a few other categories. Any reasonable level of income will disqualify a person from medicaid, food stamps and TANF or their state-named equivalents.
The real kicker is when a person who is receiving assistance gets a raise, a job or a better job, and loses benefits and wind up getting less per month because they made what would be good life decisions in any other situation.
But sure. $8000 tax refunds for welfare queens. Whatever helps grandma sleep at night."
I remember my mom not having a job when I was younger because we would have ended up with less money coming in than we already had. It makes it hard to make your life better when it feels like you're getting punished for it.
I've known several, and worked with many more. Section 8 here can, and often is, accepted by any landlords if they adhere to some basic criteria, and a lot of them go for it because it's almost guaranteed to always have a tennant. Three have moved in in the last year where we live now, and they've turned the neighborhood to shit. I mostly feel sorry for all the retirees who live here dealing with their shit. Section 8 people are why gentrification happens. We don't hate you because you're poor, we hate you because you act like trash and cry victim when people call you on it.
DiceDemi ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 03:11:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TANF lasts forever if you can prove 'hardship'. Or just keep having kids. That six month limit is the biggest joke to ever exist in bureaucratic government.
gehnrahl ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 00:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh you are forgetting what I feel is abuse of the SSI program. I used to work a credit union in a low income area and those people abused the fuck out of the SSI program.
jyetie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever tried to get on SSI?
It's hard. It can take a year. Just because someone doesn't look disabled doesn't mean they aren't.
teefour ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:17:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea other than SNAP and ACA Medicaid that may not exist in a year,
Wut? Are you referring to the proposed budget from March that would decrease snap funding by 20% over 10 years? Because that's 20% over ten years. Not 100% over one year.
Shit, clone hybrids of Scrooge McDuck and Ayn Rand could be elected to every single seat in congress and that still couldn't get done in a year.
gsfgf ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:58:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking about ACA Medicaid for adults
teefour ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So then why mention snap?
And furthermore, it's looking more and more like the republicans don't have the political capital to outright repeal the ACA. Which they never really had anyway, it's just been a talking point to rile up their base. If it's as unsustainable as they argue (which rising premiums are pointing to yes, it likely is due to poor design not actually forcing competition into insurance markets), then it will die on its own either way, and both sides will be forced to come up with an alternative.
Ugh, this is why we should have public schools act as boarding schools run as a combination standard school and military school. Take those kids away from the fuck-ups who will only endanger their children through neglect or malice, teach them bad life lessons that will ensure they grow up to become just another fuck up as well, and give them a safe, structured environment that teaches discipline, self-reliance, academic excellence and teamwork.
Everyone gets a level playing field, and everyone has no excuse for becoming a fuck up.
vizard0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And while we're at it, we'll teach those savagesto be good white people! (Read the wiki article, and then if you can stand it, read some testimonies of kids who were forced into those schools. These were started by people with the best of intentions to "civilize" (or "civilise") these poor children from their savage parents. They destroyed families, culture, languages, etc., not to mention all the documented cases of abuse and assault.)
graygrif ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:43:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I know when Florida decided to drug test everyone on welfare (it didn't last long), if a parent/guardian failed the test twice (one test every 3 to 6 months) they had to nominate someone to receive their welfare benefits for them (just in case they had any children). Of course, the nominated person would also have to be drug tested.
yep, I actually really like Florida's law. It doesn't save any money but it makes sure that the children are provided for. Unfortunately many use Florida as an example to say we shouldn't drug test, saying that it costs more than it saves, when it isn't meant to save money.
graygrif ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:06:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was framed in saving the state money. Governor Rick Scott (and others high ranking Republicans) believed that there was a large number of welfare recipients that were on drugs. By revoking their welfare, the state would save money because the state wouldn't have to pay out welfare benefits to drug addicts, even with factoring the multiple drug tests each adult would have to take.
The problem with Florida's program is that the clinic that got the contract for most of the drug tests was owned primarily by Governor Rick Scott. Also the program didn't really catch that many drug users. Of the 4046 individuals tested, only 108 failed the test (about 2.6%). This is much lower than the estimated number of Americans with substance abuse problems (around 9%). Florida's results closely match other states who have mandated drug tests for welfare recipients.
The funny thing (to me) is that all these politicians believe that those who "live on the government's dime should have to submit to a drug test, but these same politicians (who again live on the government's dime) refuse to take drug tests when asked.
himit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, I think it's a good idea if for nothing but drug addicts tend to make shit parenting choices. Putting the welfare of the child in someone else's hands - even to a very minimal extent - is helping. And I say this as a child of 'successful' pot heads... It would have been nice just to have someone who cared what school year I was in.
That law was not created to help kids. That's a good provision, but the law was just another bashing of the welfare queen stereotype for votes.
gsfgf ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 00:34:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it isn't meant to save money
Right. It's meant to score political points for Republicans by demeaning the poor by subjecting them to a warrantless search in order to claim benefits they already have a property interest in. Also to benefit Rick Scott's company that does drug testing.
In most states with that law (all but one), literally 99% of welfare recipients pass those tests. Forget about saving money, how is that worth the time and effort of everyone involved in facilitating those tests???
Either literally 1% or less of welfare recipients use drugs, or they have the same drug use as the rest of the population (less than ten percent) and just manage to not get caught. Either way, totally not worth it in my book, especially when you factor in how it justifies so many people's belief that poor people are way more likely to be druggies.
This is the exact point I make when I hear people argue that welfare only encourages laziness and should therefore be reduced. Even assuming this is true, a lot of the people receiving assistance have dependent children. Do we really want to punish those children, who have done nothing wrong, and take the risk that their welfare receiving parents might cut back on food or care for their children if we reduce assistance?
This is my conversation with my father every time welfare comes up:
"Goddammit, I'm tired of spending my hard-earned tax dollars on some fuckin' knucklehead who uses his food stamps on Oreos and his welfare benefits on fuckin' drugs.. I bet if you took those benefits away they'd get themselves a job! How about we drug test these people? Why would that be so hard? If you use drugs why should you get benefits?
"Yeah, Dad, it's frustrating, but most of these people have kids who would go without otherwise."
"PSH. Well they should STOP having kids."
".... Okay, well, they had kids so..."
"Or take the kids away from 'em! Put them in a better home!"
"That sounds great, Dad, but do you know how expensive that is? That would be WAY more tax dollars out of your pocket. I agree we need more robust child protective services, but the reality is it's expensive and voters will never approve of the tax hikes."
"... I just think stupid people shouldn't be allowed to breed."
"Okay, Dad."
That's how his brain works on the subject. Rant and rave about it, talk himself into a corner, realize he can't think of a better alternative, and then resort to grumbling under his breath.
namesrue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had this exact conversation before, I think. It is irritating to me because some of the subsidies and tax breaks corporation as get are absolutely ridiculous, and adds almost no one would support them on paper, but it's the "welfare queens" that are sold to us as the real parasites on our tax money.
It's so evil and conniving on a grand scale, that it's almost impressive.
Ronald Reagan and his Christian Coalition pulled the greatest bait-and-switch on the American people that this country has ever seen. They made a conscious decision to bleed the middle class in order to make nice with rich corporate donors. So to sell the whole idea to the middle class, they built this character. The welfare queen. The worthless, fat, good-for-nothing mom with five kids and a drug problem, leaching off the system with her feet up. And the idea of that enraged voters. "Yes please. Cut taxes for the corporations. Make America business friendly, take the teet of the government out of the mouths of the useless, and restore PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY!"
The end result? An evaporating middle class and a system where corporations quite literally own our politicians.
Incredibly, the conservatives managed to not only screw the middle class, but make them bend over, spread their cheeks, and say "please" before they did so.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:27:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they forget that those people have children
No, they probably don't. It's just that often the children serve primarily as a source of income.
mjrohs ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:26:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, but why punish the kid for that?
rg90184 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's where it gets tricky. You dont want to punish the kids, but at the same time, "rewarding" the parents shitty behavior with more support that they will spend on themselves also isn't the ideal solution.
This is a problem without an easy answer.
mjrohs ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 00:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would rather err on rewarding an asshole over punishing an innocent.
And a good number of times the parents have drug problems and don't use the extra benefits for the children. It is surprisingly easy and common to sell food stamps for cash.
The last time an investigation was done, such incidents were found to be only 1% of all food stamp dollars. What do you define as "common"?
Like, sure, a lot of people on food stamps would sell their stamps for cash if they could, the idea has seemed tempting to me when I get hit by an unexpected bill, but how many people are willing to buy food stamp dollars instead of just buying the food themself???
R3D1AL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're supposed to sell them at a discount to incentivize the buyer. Like $50 cash for $100 food stamps.
Well, from my informal survey of people in North Vegas, I would say about 10-20%. And a lot of people will buy food stamps, the going rate around here is about 50% ($100 of EBT for $50 cash/drugs). Also, most of the people who do it, don't do it every time.
Depends on how well their survey was conducted. It could be that both are meaningless.
rg90184 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then there is nothing stopping them from popping out another kid every few years to keep the benefits coming.
Anecdote time: In my hometown there was a family that had 14 kids (and another on the way at the time) Neither of the parents worked, they just subsided off of state assistance and opening credit cards using their kid's SSNs. I know because I was friends with two of the kids in school. They knew full well they were nothing but a paycheck to their parents. It was depressing to say the least.
mjrohs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not disputing that there are people out there who do that. But there are more people who do use their benefits on their children. Isn't it better to eat the cost of the people gaming the system rather than punish everyone, including people who have done nothing wrong?
rg90184 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:14:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Again, this is why it is not an easy answer. What about those 14 kids? Don't they deserve better? Shouldn't something be done to change their situation for the better so that their parents aren't having children and likening them to livestock?
It is a very common occurrence, despite being the minority of welfare cases.
Isn't it better to eat the cost of the people gaming the system rather than punish everyone, including people who have done nothing wrong?
I'm not saying we should abolish welfare all together. Merely that it shouldn't be so easy for shitheads to game the system while using their own children as livestock.
Some people actually do need the help and shitheels like the Rollins' are taking advantage of what should be helping those that actually need it.
The amount of money we spend on those people is like, so shockingly small compared to what we spend on corporate subsidies and the military. I don't understand why people even worry about it when there are bigger fish to fry. The only reason you should look into your neighbors bowl is to see if they have enough to eat, or whatever. We've all been trained so well to fight over the crumb we forgot who took the cookie.
rg90184 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm looking at my neighbors bowl because they have 14 kids they don't love just to get money and not have to work. I care because they destroy their kid's credit by opening credit lines in their names before the kid has any means of defying. I care because these people ruin the perception of a program that should help people who actually need it.
Deflecting to "oh but the military" does fucking nothing and is irrelevant to the conversation. Do I think the military is overspending? Of fucking course I do. But it has nothing to do with how broken, easily exploitable, and shitty the current welfare system is in this country.
I care about those 14 fucking kids because 2 of them are friends of mine. I care about what is in front of me and the people in my life. Go ahead and call me short sighted for not railing against the military spending trillions on bullshit, but the system that allowed my friends to be born only as livestock to their shitheel parents needs to be reformed. And anytime somebody brings it up it's met with either deflection or accusations of hating the poor.
I admire your conviction and passion. The people who blather on about "bigger problems" never seem to have solutions. They just throw up their hands and say it's too much. They're so busy looking at the forest they forget about the trees.
Keep that passion but don't let frustration turn it into anger. Use that energy to make a difference for the people around you.
I've never understood how you can open a credit card in a child's name.. :(
rg90184 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its easy to lie on a credit card application. And they had no qualms about destroying their children's credit so long as the parents could buy new electronics and other bullshit (meanwhile they wouldn't pay their gas bills in the middle of winter.)
It's almost like there should be a cutoff at some point. Like, we'll help you with two, or if you don't claim any benefits under any of your children until they're at least 3 (so, okay, legit hard times like dad got cancer or mom lost her job, etc), and you can't claim ANY benefits - WIC, food stamps, section 8, medicaid, etc - for more than 3 years without a disability.
But when you suggest limits people call you bad names.
rg90184 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But when you suggest limits people call you bad names.
It's a real shame too. Welfare is not supposed to be a permanent lifestyle. It's supposed to be a helping hand up when life kicks you down until you can stand on your own.
Right?! And I have NO PROBLEM with it for that purpose. But unless you have a bazillion and a half kids, when life kicks you down you're screwed. Better hope there's family or private charity for you!
Punishing isn't the same as letting the consequences happen? And when we continue to reward shitty people milking the system and using their kids as income from the government, the cycle continues, and then you have a 31 year old woman bringing her 15 year old 6 month pregnant daughter to the hospital talking about all hte extra benefits they were gonna get now, and how she hoped the baby's dad didn't want his name on the birth certificate.
At some point the cycle has to end, so the PITA question is, how do you do that? Because the answer, clearly, is not always giving more and more and more.
When you're talking about innocent kids who are going to suffer the most, yeah, thats punishing them. Their actions are not the thing causing this to happen, these aren't THEIR consequences to deal with. You are absolutely just punishing children for their already shitty lot in life.
The only possible solution seems to be to resource social services so they can actually take kids away from parents who use them for money, as those parents are most assuredly neglecting them to the point they'd be far better off somewhere else. Or at least that WOULD be the answer if so many foster parents didn't also literally just do it for the cash.
But just btw, SNAP benefits have a 1% fraud rate. Do you have any idea how GOOD that is?????
Yeah you don't understand the basic concept of punishment, then. Or that the government isn't their mother.
SNAP benefits probably have a 1% fraud rate because they don't ever take whores who breed like rabbits and don't work off of them. Zero respect for anyone who's on SNAP for years without a disability.
We could, also, you know, stop rewarding people for YEARS for having multiple children with no spouse or career to care for them. Also an option.
Yeah, feelings don't create long term cross generational solutions or end the cycle of poverty.
You can call me a piece of shit all you want, but you're the one who's giving out other people's fish and refusing to teach anyone else to fish for themselves because it might be hard. You're allowing people who treat their kids like shit to continue to do so, and advertising it as an option to those who don't yet, like said children you claim to be for. Your "compassion"? It's crippling. But hey, you get that virtue signaling in and get to tell yourself you're a better person, so, I'm sure it doesn't bother you.
Do you seriously lack the part of your brain that lets you look past the intimidate "Sad" to a long term solution and what's better for everyone and society in a decade ? In three?
I am a better person not just because I give a shit but because i havent been brainwashed into thinking hat there are actually enough "whores using children as paychecks" to warrant fucking everyone else over. Youre not just a piece of shit youre a fucking stupid piece of shit. What part of 1% fraud is crippling???? Do you have the same feelings about our military budget, which could feed the country ten times over, and destroy the world five times over? Do you have the same feelings about the millions of dollars in subsidies and tax breaks and loopholes we give to corporations who don't need it?
Fuck right off with your crippling bullshit. You just hate poor people because you're a worthless shitbag for brains
But hey, you seem to have all the grace of Ana Kasparian, so there's no reasoning with you.
Also, arguing that welfare spending is okay because military and corporate tax breaks exist is known as "not an argument".
And yes, I do resent some poor, because (and this is something progressives will never admit) - they often make their own problems, then act like a victim at the expenses of others. Life happens. I resent no one being poor for that reason. But you having a baby at 15? That's not "life happening" that you being stupid and making poor choices. Not having a good work ethic, good soft skills, not starting working while you're in HS, not presenting yourself in a respectable manner and having respect for those around you? That's not being poor, that's making poor choices. Poor choices that often hold you back in a career. It's pretty simple - Don't have a kid before you're 20, don't have a kid outside of marriage, finish high school, start working when you finish high school, even if you go to college. These aren't difficult things, and the overwhelming majority of the time they'll keep someone out of a cycle of poverty. But we can't even expect that level of personal responsibility out of people.
This kind of thing make me so mad. It's just so unbelievably selfish. I used to work as an A/V Tech mostly doing tv installs in people's homes. We had one client that paid us to come in and mount tvs (plural) and install speakers. >$800 worth of work. There were literally cigarette butts on the carpet upstairs. I wore a respirator the whole time I was in there. She had two kids growing up in that house. It absolutely disgusted me. Bitched out my boss for taking the job and refused to contribute to such despicable decisions. No one should be wasting money on such stupid shit while the whole family and house crumple around them. I'm sorry you had to grow up that way.
Gryff99 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:47:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to one up you, but I found out recently that my mom smoked when she was pregnant with me.
And she acted all baffled when she found out I had asthma.
himit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom said she smoked one a day while pregnant and felt terribly guilty the whole time. I have ADHD, but that's likely genetic and, in the scheme of things, she was young and dumb and could have done much worse.
Does smoking while pregnant cause asthma? Or is it just the smoking around you after you were born that caused it?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:28:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 1994 a 40" TV would have cost a fuck ton of money. IIRC I bought a 32" in about 2000 and it cost me over ยฃ1000, which was probably about $1500 at that time.
Mr_Times ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:11:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh Oklahoma, what a marvelous place I will never forget.
I literally read that post and went, "Huh. I completely forgot Oklahoma is a state." I'm not even sure the last time it was referenced to me, minus the musical.
Mr_Times ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could forget Oklahoma, but when you live here it's a little harder
Yavin7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ita not so bad, especially if you like farm fresh meat 0roduce. We raise cattle and pigs and they are so tasty
Boden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only kid who had shit parents and wasn't cursed with a multitude of respiratory problems? I remember being about 6-7 in the mid 1980s going to my first pro BMX race, both parents smoking out in a 1976 Trans Am, I placed second huffing non-filter Camels, surely I'm not the only kid?
My mother: "Nobody's going to tell me that I can't smoke in my own house!" and simultaneously, "Why do you three kids keep getting these ear infections!?".
I hope you're not offended but I want to go back in time and hit your mother over the head with a stick. My family was solidly middle class and yet my mom felt guilty buying anything for herself until I was 25.
I feel ya. Barely hotdogs in the fridge but my bio-mom always had nice things and a new bed. More perspective: I got kicked out at 16 for doing homework. Crazy bitch
You might want to check out /r/raisedbynarcissists. What you are describing sounds a lot like narcissistic (in the sense of the personality disorder) behavior.
Meanwhile, my dad went and did the responsible thing.
I still remember watching my dad in awe as he blew smoke rings in the living room. Then, my sisters were born and he stopped smoking. Years later, he told me how and why he had stopped.
My sisters were preemies, born too early. One of them had underdeveloped lungs, and the doc told Dad point-blank that she would die if he kept smoking. So he went to aversion therapy. They had him sit in a tiny room on a stool and smoke, and the only position he could hold his head was facing down. The smoke came up right into his eyes. He couldn't swallow right, and the drool was dripping down the cigarette.
My dad is the bravest man I know.
kazmtron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's depressingly common. My dad has severe asthma too, and he has permanent neurological damage because his dad just straight up refused to stop smoking inside, and wouldn't take my dad to the hospital when he had attacks.
Quite sad that many of the politicians who want to revoke welfare benefits also believe in cutting federal funding for services like CPS.
Aiurar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, they probably did call CPS, since physicians are required to if they even suspect that a parent is through intent or negligence endangering their child's health. Unfortunately, CPS is usually over worked, and they do not routinely investigate issues like the one you described until multiple complaints have been filed.
Social workers are always overworked and have next to no resources. There simply aren't enough places to put these kids in a different home so they have to triage and prioritize based upon how threaten the kids are.
Mwclark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's some of the other bad decisions they made?
centech ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:18:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear god they didn't even teach you "there" versus "their".
DokFiSH ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:49:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, you made fun of a person with english as their second language. Here's your douchebag award; oh wait, douchebags don't get awards
centech ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( Well, at least I can definitely still be president of the United States.
DokFiSH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom scared them away all 5 times they were called.
snackies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah honestly if parents are smoking in a seperate room with the windows open. That's prettttty fucking severe athsma if she's having an attack due to that. Though granted it sounds like if she smelled like cigarette smoke then clearly they were smoking elsewhere. But yeah, still doesn't rank THAT poorly in terms of parenting.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna jump all over your ass for the missing comma, but I'm gonna let it slide in view of the substandard parenting. ;)
dbbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:11 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The doctor definitely should have reported it. Speaking from the medical side, not the legal side- health care providers have been mandated reporters in most of the western world for the last 40+ years, meaning they are legally required to report suspected cases of abuse and neglect in vulnerable populations, such as children and adults with diminished capacity. According to the US federal government, smoking around a child (especially one known to have acute asthma attacks) is a form of neglect in the same category as leaving a hand gun, crack pipe, or a piles of shit out in the open.
raknor88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They clearly failed to educate OP on they're/their/there. Someone call CPS!
Etherius ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:28:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think CPS would even file paperwork on parents smoking in the same room as their asthmatic kid, then you either severely overestimate their resources or severely underestimate how many truly bad parents are out there.
Caelinus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:02:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The underestimate is the big thing. This is life threatening, but since they was not actively trying to kill their kids it is relatively low risk compared to most of what CPS has to deal with.
It doesn't work that way. I know a kid who has asthma and his dad smokes around him all the time. Comes home smelling like smoke, etc. His mom even got the kid tested for nicotine metabolites and it showed up. None of that stuff is admissible in court so it doesn't matter.
Pfffft. You'd have a better reaction from the Border Patrol.
CPS is the mall cop of the law enforcement world.
Noah-R ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:48:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psh, CPS won't do shit. You'd have a better shot of getting the animal rights folk to remove the pets than for CPS to remove the child.
Caelinus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is because they have too many children (and no where near enough foster parents) in the system already. They end up having to make choices about which children are most urgently in need of it. So parents being idiots is usually not enough.
My parents became foster parents when I was in high school, and the kids that came to us had often been literally tortured and abused to degrees that make me want to throw up.
smc5230 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:11:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um most likely not as second-hand smoke has only recently been taken seriously.
People need to stop thinking that child protective services can help with any little bit of neglect. I know of a father who stabbed his wife in the ear, puncturing her ear drum who then waved around a gun threatening to kill himself. All in front of his 3 and 5 year old son. My friend (who was their social worker) could not do anything about it, as the government did not deem the situation as "severe risk of harm" to the child. Sure as fuck wouldn't do anything about parents smoking inside. It's pitiful.
Caelinus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What state is that? Because that certainly would be enough in Washington unless you got a terrible horrible judge who hates kids.
NSW, Australia. I've had mates work in the US, similar stories, though I'm not sure to this extent.
Caelinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yeah. It really comes down to where you live. I have heard some bad things about Austrailia when it comes to a few things like that.
Here the stabbing on its own would constitute a risk of harm, the waving a gun around would just cement it. Depending on circumstances (like mental illness) alternatives might be looked into, but I am pretty sure CPS would get involved.
Yeah, it's pretty dire here. Our version of CPS (FACS) does get involved, for example in the situation I gave, the family is receiving counselling, the govt just won't remove the children from the situation. All under the guise of "early intervention" and trying to "keep families together". It's so sad. Glad to hear CPS is more responsive.
Caelinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with the US is that I can only really speak for Washington State, because CPS is managed at a state level. So it could be vastly different other places.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:20:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As shitty as it is, this kind of neglect barely moves the alarm needle for a CPS worker.
My parents both smoked when I was growing up. In the house, car, while giving me a bath, tucking me in, making me breakfast, etc... I swear I remember ashtrays on shopping carts...
It was normal even in the late 90s. To my understanding CPS still can't do anything about that legally unless it overtly poses an immediate threat to a child, which I can't even think of a situation short of after some sort of fire.
While I'm talking about it. My parents raised me wonderfully and to the best of their abilities. Their smoking literally had no impact on my development to my knowledge short of my friends at school smelling smoke on me and being embarrassed. I will say that I did start smoking myself when I was younger but so did a lot of my friends who's parents never smoked so I see a slim correlation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
different time back then, smoking was much more accepted than it is today. I used to wheeze when my mom smoked in the car and I would beg her to roll down the windows. She'd say, "No, I don't like it when the window warbles my eardrums." And would crack it less than an 1/8 of an inch. When I was younger, I'd come to school smelling like an oilman fresh off a 12 hour day pumping tar. It's ard to hide.
Child protection should be the LAST thing to get involved. Government homes for children are far from happy and stable.
If the worst my mom did was accidentally give me asthma because she was smoking a cigarette, I wouldn't complain
Hillyb13 ยท 1819 points ยท Posted at 20:57:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohh I know these feels.
'but I smoke outside now'.... Yeah, right near my bedroom window that has to be open because my rooms a hotbox... Love waking up to the smell of smoke followed by not being able to breathe.
brecka ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 00:44:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always loved going to school smelling like a fucking ashtray, getting accused of smoking even in elementary school, and other kids tended to stay away from me because of how bad I smelled, and nothing I could do about it.
My mum wouldn't let me stay round friends houses if their parents smoked. I can see why, because I remember even after an hour of being at my closest friends house I'd go home and could smell the smoke on my clothes.
My grandma smoked like... I'd say a chimney but that's insulting to chimneys. When she still lived at home my parents would go down to her house to visit/do chores and I'd always have to go. I hated it. She was cold, didn't want much to do with a 2-4 year old kid (she was only in her early 70s, a lifetime of alcohol and nicotine abuse had aged her considerably, though) and her and my mother would basically just sit at the table chain smoking while I stuck to my dad for a few hours.
I have several VIVID memories of getting in the car and promptly stripping down into my underwear and throwing it as far away from me as I could manage in an old GM vehicle (so pretty far). I'd then roll down the windows and try and get the smell out of my hair using the wind even though it never worked. As soon as I got home I'd demand a bath and a change of clothes.
Now whenever someone says "you'd never know that I smoke because I am SO careful. I wash my hands, blow the smoke away from me and always smoke outside!!" I just laugh and tell them that everyone can smell the smoke wafting off of them from a mile away.
Hair, fingers and mouths always stink like a rotten old ashtray and it makes me feel sick to my stomach to smell it, it always has. Even my mom, who quit almost two years ago, can suddenly smell how her sister really smells and she even wondered if she smelled too (yes, yes she did).
thekream ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thanks for the quality reply, sorry you had to go through that
clankton ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I quit smoking, it was how strongly the smell of tobacco would hit me that was a huge shocker. Huge sense of shame - good god did I really do that to my roommates/boyfriend/family members etc? There's no good way for a smoker to realize this without them trying to quit first, unfortunately. Luckily it seems like fewer people are taking it up than they used to...?
I have received hateful comments on Reddit from smokers because apparently they're so oppressed because people get angry at them. You know, for stinking up everywhere they go for no good reason. "But you can smell cars!" Cars do shit!
UrethraX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dawn near broke a window in the office after being accused of smoking at school, fucking cunts.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG I know these feels!
On my first day of high school at a less than 'ideal' school, one kid ransacked me for ciggies because 'he could smell them on me and I should stop being a stuck up bitch and hand one over '
My neighbor had a super smelly dog. I have allergies and am stuffed up most of the time, I could smell the stinky dog but I'm sure I didn't get the full effect normal people got. Anyway She was some kind of "chemical" hating hippy and she didn't shower or use real soap with any frequency and she had a young daughter who was getting bullied at school. Probably because huh the dog stinks real bad and sleeps with you and sleeps on your bed and makes everything in your house reeks. She said she knew what the problem was with the dog but didn't actually do anything or treat the dog.
I'm an adult with an immune disease, won't go into it but I get sick easier than others.
My SOs side of the family chain smokes and smokes inside. We take every precaution but I end up with a sinus infection for a month every time I visit. I love them so much, but I am dreading our visit because of how sick I will get. This time, my doctors advised me to start a medication before we even get there to try and keep it from happening. It is awful.
Maybe sleep at a hotel or other sleeping arrangement and keep the visit short and sweet? Frankly, it seems like if they are family would give more consideration to your health issue. Good luck
My relatives never listened. It was their house and by god they were going to smoke in it. One long evening visit and I might wake up with a sinus infection, chest congestion, bronchitis, who knows. But at least they got their smoke on
They try and smoke outside, but it's not enough. We jump around to other relatives houses so it's never too long in one place but yeah it sucks. They are old and set in their ways. I love them and enjoy visiting regardless, it's just something we have to plan for now.
Seriously. My parents would smoke with the windows up in the car because it would be freezing out. The heat would be cranked. The only fresh air I could get would be from stuffing my face between the crack on the edge of the backseat and the trunk. Like breathing through a straw.
And the alternative: they crack the window a bit. So now you've got cold air coming straight at your face, as well as the ashes that don't make it out the window, and of course, the smoke. You curl into yourself to escape as much of the cold and ashes as you can. The cold hurts and the ashes are a nuisance. You count the number of puffs you hear them take, but to no avail. For as soon as you hear one parent flick their cigarette butt out the window, the other parent lights up. Will it ever end? How far away does Aunt Becky live, anyway? Surely you're nearly there; surely your suffering will end soon.
It's been hours now, and you're certain this has to be the last cigarette in the car. It must be. You've been keeping track. You've been counting. You've crunched the numbers in your head multiple times. You're certain. This is the last cigarette and soon you will be able to emerge from your smoke-covered cocoon of pain and torture! B-b-but wait--what's that new sound? You pray it isn't what you think it is. Against all hope, you strain your ears and hear it: one of your parents is rummaging around under the seat. They stop. A short, annoyed sigh breaks the silence. You breath a sigh of relief and then--RRRRRIIIPP--a single tear rolls down your face as you hear a carton being opened. There is no escape. You resign yourself to your fate. You will die a frozen, ash-covered ball of despair and misery, never again tasting the sweet, sweet taste of clean air.
This honestly makes me so sad. I always knew it affected kids, but wow this perspective is unbelievably sad. This whole thread is making me hate cigs even more.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've changed the laws now, it's illegal to smoke in a car with a person under 18 in it.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:59 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, sorry you had to go through that.
MinagiV ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:45:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG, this is my MiL. She sits right underneath my living room window. Open or closed, the smell still creeps in... I have 2 kids and another on the way. My 9 year old is constantly on her case to quit.
We had to have this convo with my MIL. Otherwise, she's great, but when we visit, she can't smoke in the house with my asthmatic kid. She went outside at first, but then eventually she started sneaking into the basement. I was not happy.
MJTree ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:33:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she's going to bother to go to the basement to smoke she might as well just go outside lol
Pipes32 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents thought they were being sneaky by popping into the (attached) garage...and keeping the garage door closed of course, because it's winter out, and they were visiting for Christmas.
Nope. I compromised by parking their car in my garage and they could smoke in their car. All car doors closed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is an MiL? Wait now I'm thinking mother in law
TeniBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have it right.
Jajoo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU need to tell her to quit
MinagiV ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:30:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have. Multiple times. She literally has 3 people on her to quit.
"Its good for your cholesterol"
Quote from Mike Nolen.
Source Big Lez Show.
marx1st ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been dealing with this from my 1st floor neighbor (I'm on 3rd floor). He sits outside in his wheelchair on his patio all day smoking while hacking coughing. We love having our balcony door open for fresh air, but can't open it at all anymore because his smoke comes in and it's so strong you'd think someone was smoking inside our apt. Not to mention the nasty choking sounds he makes while coughing.
When it first started, we'd slam our door shut when he was out there to let him know we could smell the smoke. Our 2nd floor neighbors have done the same thing too. We've also tried telling the office people since it says there's no smoking allowed on patios. They spoke with him, but nothing has changed. We've even poured water on him while he was out there.
Have you guys tried talking to him instead of pouring water on him? Seems kind of childish to resort to petty and spiteful tactics even if he's in the wrong and all else failed.
marx1st ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:51:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We resorted to the water after apartment management brought it to his attention and he didn't stop.
Basscsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's still a dick move. The guys in a wheelchair and he's two floors down you can close your fucking door when you hear him politely cough loud enough for everybody to know he is outside. Or demand he be evicted and stop pretending like HE'S the asshole. Slamming your door is a piss poor communication method.
I have downstairs neighbours who scream. When they do so, I go downstairs and tell them to chill out, or if I'm feeling angsty, chill the fuck out. This always works. Talking to people face to face about issues you have with them is generally a good place to start.
Also what so you want wheelchair guy to quit smoking so you can have your window open all the time?
marx1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guys in a wheelchair and he's two floors down you can close your fucking door when you hear him politely cough loud enough for everybody to know he is outside.
See above:
all day smoking while hacking coughing
smoke comes in and it's so strong you'd think someone was smoking inside our apt
I don't think you understand the situation.
himit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
5' tall white girl here. Talking to people nicely has always worked for me, too. 'I'm sorry, could you be a bit more quiet please? We can't sleep!' is generally met by a yelled 'Sorry!' and a lower volume.
Granted I don't live in the US and I don't live in a ghetto, where I guess people might be a bit more aggro
Basscsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Yeah people will probably get upset if you go down to START A CONFRONTATION but if you speak your piece and don't really give people a reason to respond when there isn't one, things can sometimes be alright.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:44 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'white girl '
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a no smoking apartment, so he's breaking rules anyway
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if he wanys the luxury of smoking then he needs to go to designated places for smoking in and around houses.
Like having a pet, some places don't let pets, others are okay with it.
iznotiz ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:29:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess: You're a white male. I can smell the entitlement. You know what happens when a minority woman politely asks the upstairs neighbors to chill? Beaten up. Raped. A white woman speaks to her neighbor about controlling his dog? The dog is turned on her right there.
When you're white and male, you have a lot of options most people don't have.
You know what happens when a minority woman politely asks the upstairs neighbors to chill? Beaten up. Raped.
That sounds a little extreme...
r2u2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:39:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the most pathetic things I have ever read.
You need to see a therapist.
iznotiz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't like stories from my apartment complex? Gosh.
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:41:15 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, we don't like your stupidity. Go somewhere else and don't breed.
Please.
Sincerely, everyone.
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. What the fuck? I can't actually comprehend this. Someone please translate from cunt to civilised human.
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:29 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been in a similar situation where I've had to confront neighbours (dog kept trying to eat my dog when we went on walks cuz the dog was never contained properly), what I've learnt is that unless there is currency that the other person values or wants (like peace between two neighbours) then the other person doesn't give a crap. They'll continue what they're doing because there is no benefit from them stopping.
Not everyone cares about other people's health, feelings, whatever. So there is no currency. So it'll more than likely keep happening.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep spamming the real estate or whoever owns the place. My sister had the same problem and literally sent the same email everyday for a few weeks. Also, IDK if you cab do this where you are, but in Australia, there's laws and ombudsman that you can contact of the real estate won't do anything.
buy him a vape and vape juice, then supply him with lower and lower concentrations of nicotine until he's sober and doesn't know it.
marx1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that, that shit's expensive!
wayfar3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you sent your apartment manager to talk to your neighbor instead of (politely) talking to him yourself. Then you poured water on the guy. He's outside. If you ask him nicely, maybe he'd trouble himself to find a spot that would bother you less, but he's under no obligation to. Fat chance of that now that you've poured water on him though. Maybe he's done some stuff your not talking about here, but if smoking is his only vice, you're the asshole dude.
marx1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you sent your apartment manager to talk to your neighbor instead of (politely) talking to him yourself
he's under no obligation to
Smoking on patios/balconies is prohibited according to our lease. That's why we involved apartment management instead of confronting him ourselves.
Sojoez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or how about people smoking right outside the hospital doors? "But I'm outside!" "Yes, you fuckhead, but I still have to walk through your smoke!!"
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:32 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yes!
My favourite thing to do at work is shoo people away from the doors and make them walk 50m away from the entrance. They get sooooooo cranky.
Jeffde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This hits the bullseye
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:22:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, if you have a problem with it maybe you should ask them to leave your house.
To be fair, nature should have taken care of you a long time ago. You're making the species weak, Timmy.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:30 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure you know how natural selection and 'weak species ' work.
Pollution from cigarette smoke it a man made thing, human bodies were not initially equipped to deal with it like they do with adapting to temperature.
I don't know why anybody smokes in their house. I'm a smoker, and while I understand the convenience of smoking in your living space, it's not worth the near-permanent smell, extra dust and ash, and yellowing of your walls.
Although I do think about it when it's freezing cold outside.
Drail ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:41:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoker as well, don't smoke indoors even though it's allowed in the place I rent. Another thing some smokers need to understand is that not everyone enjoys the smell of smoke. I've washed my hands, chewed a piece of gum, and walked a few yards from the crowd waiting for a light on the street corner plenty of times. Smoking indoors just makes your place less welcoming for company.
tottottt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:50:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Every time I visit my FIL all my clothes smell like cigarettes. And I was a smoker and don't really mind the smell but the stink in his house is something nasty and every surface that used to be white is bright yellow.
I kind of miss that about smoking. In a conversation that you don't want to be in? Light a cigarette, show no concern for where smoke is wafting. Conversation over. Definitely a dick move, but effective.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine had an apartment where the previous tenant was a smoker, and the walls were an odd shade of yellow-tan.
One day, the shower broke and basically steamed the house. The walls were actually a stark white, and the old smoke residue was running down them.
[deleted] ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sam-Gunn ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 22:39:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those videos of cleaning smokers houses are incredible. After only a few years it leaves a FILM that you can actually scrape off from things like blinds.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:54:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember watching some TV show or something a while ago where the people were smoking so much in their living room that it fucked their TV
NeedRez ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:40:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anything with fans pulling in that air are going to be saturated. I've had to work on computers and laptops outside because they would stink so bad.
I used to think computers would just naturally grow a layer of dust inside like mould grows on cheese, wasn't until about a year after I'd quit smoking and got a new PC that I realized gosh that old PC was just nasty and coated in tar inside
If some of your fans have filters and some don't, make sure the filtered ones are intakes - try not to have any intakes that aren't filtered. Radiators count as filters for this and it also helps if you have slightly positive pressure inside the case, so dust won't be drawn in through panel gaps. This will help against the dust, but won't do anything about smoke.
dyldog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I helped clean my ex's great grandmothers house once. She smoked everyday and all her windows were covered in a yellow film. It was pretty gross.
My husband and I bought our house from two chain smokers. Before we could even think about moving in, we had to scrub down every inch of wall and ceiling with heavy-duty cleaner 3 times. Buckets had to be dumped every few feet because the water kept turning dark brown. It was horrifying. We wore respirator masks and I had to keep sucking on peppermints and drinking ginger ale to keep from throwing up. Then we could finally prime and paint the walls and ceilings.
...I won't even go into the saga of the carpeting and scraping/sealing subflooring due to pet urine.
When my aunt who was an indoor smoker moved house we moved the paintings off the wall. Much to our surprise the wall colour behind the painting was white, we thought the lounge walls were painted deep yellow.
Cig smoke can gunk shit up. All that tar has to settle somewhere
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 22:51:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I'm a smoker and I can smell the residual smoke odor on myself incredibly strongly and I know that it's even more strong to everyone around me.
I know a guy who smokes in his house and whenever I go in I notice the smoke smell too. After I've been there long enough I stop really noticing it but as soon as I go outside and come back in I can immediately smell it again. Same goes for my old car that I used to smoke in.
One thing I've learned, not even for resale value (I've only owned shit old cars) but FUCK smoking in cars. You smoke one cigarette and that smell is there, it may fade some but even one cigarette and you'll always faintly smell it from the fabric.
I smoke but outdoors and if I felt like smoking on a road trip I'd pull over at a rest stop. I don't smoke much though, so one cig on a five hour trip is fine for me.
Will never let anyone smoke in my car. I've explained it to people and they've said "oh it's cool, I'll roll the window down."
Fuck no. I don't mind waiting if you want to smoke before we go or take a stop along the way.
And then they want to take three stops along an hour trip. No to that either, I won't mind one stop but you're not smoking in my car and we're not stopping every fifteen minutes.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:49:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I used to smoke in my old junker but now that I actually have a nice, relatively new car that should last me for many years to come, I will absolutely not be smoking in it.
Used to smoke daily in my Acura TSX and ten years later my brother in law drives it. It's never smelled at all. Floor vents on full blast to create air pressure, crack the window (don't open it too far, just a crack).
My brother smoked in my car while I was overseas for 2 years. I made him buy like an industrial strength car air freshener, and I had that smell to drive me crazy until the smoke smell was gone. It took months.
Heh. If it's your car I wouldn't care, smoke em up as long as the windows are cracked, I'd join you for one or two (though I do feel weird smoking in a car as I never do). But your car? Road trip no problem.
Edit.. Relevant username, heh
Dthibzz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. My parents are both 2 pack a day smokers who give zero fucks what anyone else has to say about where the smoke. It was just normal to me, then I had to start smoking outside when I moved in with my husband. His sinuses can't handle much fucking with, so it's just not an option. Now I'll never go back and I'll never make my kid live like I had to.
Same! My parents and my brother smoked my entire life, and when I came home from university the first time the smell hit me so bad I had a coughing fit.
carenl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. I'm a smoker and can definitely smell it. I also dislike the smell of anyone else smoking near me.
Also in the last few years there's been research into so-called third hand smoke, i.e. residual chemicals that are practically impossible to get rid of, which are harmful to kids. Also yeah I don't want my house to smell like ass.
Shijin83 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:00:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend whose parents smoke in their house. If you spend more than 5 minutes in there you'll smell like ash the rest of the day.
I smoke in my house and literally everyone I know that smokes does as well. I'm not sure where all of you live because it's incredibly common here.
jkman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:44:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how addicted they are. My mom is a 2 pack a day smoker. She lights one up almost every 10 minutes when shes in her zone (work from home). If she went outside every time she lit a cigarette, she'd be out there for a long time.
So one night, I ordered Chinese takeout, but when I picked up the the food bag and brought it to my apartment, there wasn't any sweet'n'sour sauce. I looked around in the kitchen and wasn't able to find any sauce that would deem a proper substitute.
My neighbors always left their door unlocked and I knew they were gone for the night as they told me they were visiting or going somewhere. I checked their kitchen and wasn't able to find much, but curiosity got the better of me and I decided to check their bathroom, you know, for seeing how they do the nasty. I saw some rolled up toilet paper in the trash and I never really saw how pads and feminine products were disposed of -- it was pretty sour tasting, but nonetheless, I took it back to my place and squeezed the pads out, added some sugar, and blended my rice.
It was finger-licking good.
ekilz ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why the fuck did you start then? I can't understand why people still do it.
Not that I think we should be telling kids this, but people often overlook the fact that smoking tobacco is enjoyable (to some people). It comes with serious risks, but so does high calorie food and alcohol. Still doesn't add up to a "good idea" admittedly, but that's why people do it.
adcas ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:06:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I quit a few years ago. I got Norovirus and when I started coughing up tar... ugh. That shit was nasty.
When I get sick now (it's not half as often) it's nice to just cough like a normal person!
I quit when I started getting sharp pains in my side when I inhaled. It's been 2yrs!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funnily enough, that may not have been directly related to smoking. I get em too, doctor says it happens and is nothing to worry about unless it get actually debilitating rather than just a sharp pain.
I bought the house, I smoke inside it because it's mine and I can. I realize it's petty but after years of renting (where I 100% am in favour of smoking outside) it is satisfying to light one up in my living room.
Oh don't get me wrong, I understand the mindset. My parents smoked inside until recently, and it was nice to just chill and smoke one while watching TV. And I love going to bars that allow indoor smoking (getting more and more rare in my area). It's just that grossness I can't stand that sends me over to the other camp. The only time your clothes smell good is immediately out of the dryer. Ash all over, dust becomes almost sticky, everything is yellow. Friends notice your place smells. Etc. I'd rather just go outside.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that you can but do you mind that everyone that visits is just put off by the terrible smell? Why not ecig inside and cigarettes outside?
You destroy the value of the home or it needs lots of work to get it not smell to sell and people visiting will just view your home like a leper colony.
I smoke, but I go outside.
I mean, you can, I just see so many drawbacks. And more power to you for doing what you want, I'm totally cool with you doing what you want on your own property, I'm just saying there seems to be a lot of eh results.
Meh, your house your rules. Just be aware it may be a bitch to repaint as cig tar can bleed through new paint. Been there done that. You may need to put a really good sealing base coat/specific base coat on to stop the bleed through. Otherwise a good scrub,steam and elbow grease should get it out of everything else so should be good for resale.
I rented an apartment that allowed smoking so I smoked inside. I bought a house and all new furniture along with it. The first morning I woke up in my new house I opened my closet door and OMG did my clothes stink. They were clean in the sence that I had washed, dried, and hung them up, but I smoked in my old apartment. So I had to wash all my clothes again and never smoked inside a house again.
My parents smoked inside the house. I didnt smell smoke at all on anything. When i moved out and eventually unpacked some of my clothes boxes everything fucking reeked of smoke. it makes me so embarrassed to know how badly i mustve smelled in school to other kids when i was younger and i didnt even know because i was so nose blind to it.
Not in my experience but I'm sure it happens depending on the size of the room, how many people are smoking, and the sensitivity of the detector. But I grew up in a smoking house and it's never happened.
And I know the smoke detectors worked because nearly every other time my mom or sister cooked something in the oven, more than one alarm would start screaming.
I know a lady that smokes inside and you almost can't tell, but she literally deep cleans and washes the walls regularly and shampoos carpets.
Another guy only smokes inside under the oven vent when it's on when it gets super cold. I smell the dog before the cigarettes.
Not saying you should smoke inside, especially if you have kids, but once in a while with proper ventilation on story cold days and you should be good to go.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I vape, but smoke weed indoors (joints mixed with tobacco). Coming home, having dinner and a joint is the best part of my day. Standing out on the freezing veranda ruins the joint and I'd rather not have one than go outside.
My mom smokes in the house, and my dad has asthma. I'm pretty sure it's the reason I had so many breathing problems as a kid. I had bronchitis twice in the space of about six months once, and I asked my mom to temporarily stop smoking so I could breathe, and she was like "Nope."
moratnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yellowing of your walls.
Some friends bought a house off some heavy smokers.
They quite liked the beige/lemon the walks and ceiling were painted. Until they washed a bit of wall and discovered they were actually painted white.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At one of my old houses (a no smoking rental) I had my desk set up right next to a window. I would set a fan right up against the window facing outwards and some nights chain smoke while playing computer games if they Vyvanse still had me going after all my HW and studying was done.
Apparently it worked, because my neighbor who rented from the same management company (identical floorplan, same bedroom) had to pay smoke cleaning fines at the end of her lease when she had probably only smoked a handful of cigarettes inside across the year, whereas I'd go through half a pack some nights and never heard a thing about it.
My friends and I who all smoked at the time went on vacation and requested a smoking room for our hotel stay, all excited to try it. When we did it just felt gross so we smoked outside anyway.
EmEffBee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The walls in my bathroom still sweat yellow drips from the previous tenants. They would smoke in the bath and use the built in soap dish as an ash tray..
I live in a two family house, and the other tenants smoke in our communal basement now that it's cold. Really annoying because our laundry is down there and the smoke has somehow disturbed some sugar ants that were down there. They came through the floor of our first floor apartment, as does the smoke smell occasionally.
glisp42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funnily enough, that's the only thing I miss about smoking. Those freeze your balls off mornings and the first cigarette.
I used to buy sets of consoles and games and then sell them off individually for a profit. Electronics that have been in a house where people smoke are absolutely disgusting.
I've always wondered why people don't just use cold weather as an easy motivator to quit. Fuck standing outside doing nothing just to increase my risk of lung cancer.
Jdrawer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother smokes inside, and that convenience is very important to her. Also, there's the whole "nose-blind" thing.
Apathy. Especially middle-aged, elder people, they just don't care. "It's my home, I worked, I earned it" etc. which is true and great and valid and all but I live here too, and you're kind of fucking things up.
It's also horrible for you; the carcinogens stay in the walls so whenever you breathe inside your home you're breathing that in again. It's one of the biggest reasons for lung cancer too.
When we first moved into our apartment I didn't want to smoke in there even though we were allowed to. However, once winter hit we gave up on that. That's the nice thing about renting though. I don't have to worry about that shit.
legone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't understand smoking in cars either. Maybe if you have an old beater, but cars depreciate soo much when they're smoked in. It never goes away.
I just moved out of a house on a military base that clearly had a smoker (or 500) living in it previously. I had to wash that yellow dripping shit off certain walls in the house. The house also had a constant smoker smell I couldn't get rid of. It was awful.
I smoke indoors, but only in this one giant frat-type house that's basically a hippie commune. It's got weed in the walls for years. It's just how it is there.
shane201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've done it a couple times, but I usually do it near an open window with the ashtray on the outside ledge.
SnArL817 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:41 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I never smoked in the house. Mostly because of the kids, but also because it was brand new. We mostly smoked in the garage. Quit smoking in September 2014. 6 months later, the battery backup unit for the fibre-interconnect failed and AT&T sent out a tech with a replacement. I figured he was just going to replace the battery, but instead he replaced the whole unit.
The difference between the old one and the new one was disgusting. The old one (which had been exposed to cigarette smoke for only 2 years) was yellow. The new one was gleaming white. The power strip it's plugged into is also yellow. Whenever I find myself craving a cigarette, I go in the garage and compare the color of the power strip to the battery backup unit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my wife only ever do when it's cold or raining outside, and only in our bedroom, the basement or the garage. I grew up in a house with 3 heavy smokers, so I didn't really see the problem with the whole second-hand smoke thing until my son kept getting pneumonia.
I almost wonder if humans are somehow de-evolving to adapt to an environment with fewer smokers. I was never sick as a kid, and I had relatives who lived into their late 90's smoking a pack or two a day for 80 years and never set foot in a hospital. Now it seems like anyone who is regularly exposed to smoke gets sick.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:03:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some adults do not seem to care. In my extended family, one woman smoked while pregnant. Her first child was born very small, and she has had asthma all her life. Because this young woman constantly saw her mother smoking, she now has a smoker live in boyfriend (!). The second child of this smoking lady has learning disabilities. She hid her smoking while pregnant for the second time. Also, her husband just passed away due to pancreatic cancer . He was not even 60, and as a devoted husband, allowed his wife to smoke around him and his kids. He never smoked himself. This woman would never admit any wrong doing. She used to claim her daughter's asthma attacks were due to the city's pollution.
BICHNEGA ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 20:39:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If not I would severly recommend it
edit: fuck I messed up while making fun of someone else for messing up.
haha, i had the same thing happen to me, except the doctor didnt smell my head he told my mother to "stop smoking in enclosed spaces." ten minutes later in the car she lights one up, thanks ma.
I did not have asthma but a person at my daycare told my mom to stop smoking in the house because I smelled like an ashtray. A couple weeks later the same person realized that I smelled of some. She question my mother in her answer was "Well, I did stop smoking in the house but he smells like that because I smoke wehen I am in the car with him"
My mother used to hold me down while I kicked and screamed and dosed me with a huge mask and really gross tasting asthma meds... then chain smoke as usual. When I was older we were having forest fire issues in our town and I got so bad that I couldn't get off the living room couch and my lips were turning blue. They took me to the hospital, I spent the night with meds and oxygen and when they too me home... yep back chain smoking.
And people call me insane when I think tobacco should be treated like any other dangerously addictive substance and not be something you can just by at a store.
kaeroku ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, though I think dangerously addictive substances shouldn't be controlled. Even though I don't use them myself, I think as long as it's only impacting yourself, it shouldn't be something the state has any say over.
Now, that said, I think that smoking around other people should qualify as assault with a chemical weapon and be charged and penalized accordingly.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That should be child abuse. I'm glad you lived! I have severe asthma too.
tyjet ยท 446 points ยท Posted at 20:57:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dealt with this too. Severe asthma. Hospitalized as a child because of a severe attack. My family continued to smoke. Looking back, my mom had a strong addiction to nicotine. I don't resent her for it. I don't think she fully understood what it did to me.
My mother also had and continues to have a strong addiction to cigarettes. She has never once smoked inside any of our homes. Not even the cats are allowed near her when she smokes. She shoos them off the balcony, shuts the door, and waits until the smoke clears before they're allowed out again. Because she cares that the cats don't get sick.
Your mom is cool. Most people don't realise that smoke is hugely bad for pets. They have tiny lungs yo.
junepath ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 23:48:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom smoked inside this itty bitty tiny house. Never opened her Windows. She would smoke one right after another. If she was awake there was a cigarette in her hands.
She would call me sobbing every few months because one of her cats had just dropped dead. It happened frequently. She refused to believe smoking was the cause. It killed her too. I love her and I miss her every day and aside from the smoking she was amazing. But I struggle to forgive her for killing herself by smoking the way she did.
My mom is doing this currently. I don't know what to do.
junepath ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:18:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly there's nothing you can do. I even tried to tell my mom that I didn't want my daughter, who adored her (and who my mom loved beyond words) in her brand new apartment if she was going to smoke inside. She did it anyway. I've discovered that with an addiction like that, the smoking will always win. It just matters more.
It's hard losing your mom like that. But back when they started smoking, it wasn't known (or perhaps made public) how bad smoking was for you. So I give my mom the benefit of the doubt. I don't think if she had known she would die so young and leave me at such young that she would have ever started.
hugs it's rough.
junepath ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:42:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I agree, she probably started smoking in the late 70s, and had been (other than quitting when she was pregnant with me, but not with my brother) up until she died at 53. It's been almost 4 months since she died which feels like it can't even be real. Feels like just last week.
It's ten years and it still hurts like it was last week. hugs mine started smoking in the late 50s and never stopped. My dad did and is as healthy as can be.
It's a hard road and it's okay to cry. I really wished
I had cried more.
junepath ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The weird thing is, it almost hurts more now than it did when she died. The more time that passes, the more obvious her absence is. The shock wore off as the holidays approached and I kept busy but between that and general winter blahs, it's a little tough. Just trying to bury myself into hobbies and parenting. Which is exactly what she would have wanted, were she still here.
The shock is what keeps you going for a bit. It was a good six months before I started to feel anything and unfortunately I got sick and didn't take care of myself well. The infection I got wouldn't go away and set off a chain reaction that led to lupus.
I threw myself into my business and new marriage, which is what my mom would have wanted. Lol! Seems like we're the same in that regard.
I wish I had gone to a counselor and worked out my grief. I kept it very bottled up to be strong for my mom's father and my own dad. That was overrated. My dad grieved in a healthy way and while he'll never get fully over losing his partner and bff, he has built a new life with a lovely new wife. My grandfather never recovered and passed away a couple years later. I really miss him.
Be sure to look after yourself. If you feel yourself slipping, don't be afraid to talk it out. All of your emotions are valid. I wish I had more wisdom to give you. :)
I used to smoke inside, then I noticed one day my white cat turning yellowish (reference was kitten him, all white on the fridge). I stopped smoking inside that day. I'm still stupid and smoke, but never around my cats anymore. Sorry creatures.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldnt say so. In an outdoor setting like that, the dog is getting very little-to no actual smoke inhalation. The problems are when 1) they are young, 2) the smoke is inside or confined, and 3) when the owner frequently smokes. Taking the dog out while you have a smoke isn't going to hurt the dog anymore than if you were to just take him for a walk anyways.
Yep my parents are both the same way. On one hand, it's a super gross addiction and it would still make us smell slightly like smoke (something I was super self conscious of when I was little) but they would only ever smoke in the garage. Even in sub zero weather. We were under no circumstances allowed in the garage anyways (dads tools) so I basically kept 99% of the smoke away from us which I am very grateful for.
My dad couldn't quit smoking until he had a heart attack. He tried so many times with gum and patches, but it took him having a heart attack, which luckily was mild, for it to finally stick.
I just quit (again), but, before I did, I always smoked outside, and would wash my face and hands beefier touching my cats.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wash my face and hands beefier
Lol, what's a hands beefier?
But, yeah. I was a religious hand-washer after smoking. It just sticks to everything.
MinagiV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:51:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother would bleach bomb our house nearly every day. You could not tell she was a smoker/smoked in the house. She started smoking when she was 13, smoked off and on when we were little (she quit for the nearly 3 years she was pregnant in the mid-80s), then when she had her last baby 16 years ago, quit once and for all. Us 3 older ones tried to get her to quit for about a decade, and were so happy when she was all done.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom was the same way. Never ever smoked inside her house or apartment, always waved it away from us if we passed by, or she'd stand as far away from us as possible.
If it's on her clothes and even on walls of the house it's honestly still fucking horrible for you.
shikax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell her to try vaping. It's different, but the nicotine hits are still there. I sure as hell feel a lot better after having made the change.
Kimber85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to my Father-in-Law, who smokes inside the house constantly while his wife's cat has asthma so severe she sounds like Darth fucking Vader. I've tried telling my husband we won't be staying with them when we have a baby, but he got upset. My Sister-in-Law smoked while she was pregnant and "my nephew turned it fine!".
There was this dope chick at a festival who would ask everyone around if they were okay with her smoking before she lit up, and she would always blow the smoke away from us. Judging by her usage she was a pretty serious smoker, but she was very considerate about it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish that every parent who smoked was like your mom
At least your mother has an excuse. Mine knows that her perfume triggers asthma attacks in me (been hospitalised for that exact reason before) yet she still wears it every day and wanders into my house without a care in the world. She even gets pissed off when I tell her to leave so that I don't die...
Thankfully my family was the opposite. Had to be taken to the hospital, that day my grandpa said he was done. A few months later my nana stopped. My mom took longer, but she did eventually stop for my sake, and she started smoking outside if she HAD to.
tyjet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom tried her best to quit smoking/smoke outside but the addiction was really bad for her.
mullerwt ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:17:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, neither of my parents cared until I moved out. While I was in their house they said it's my house, I pay the mortgage I'll smoke if I want.
Sad thing is that both my sister and I have had to get glasses and both doctors attributed our poor eye sight to the amount of smoke in our house.
Side note: they don't smoke in my house, it's not out of respect though... it's because I've told them they can leave if they decide to do it.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:41:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:11:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't surprise me. If your eyes are stinging and straining all day it's not going to be good for them. It's amazing now how many kids simply don't know what that's like.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:03:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter if it would surprise you. It's simply not a known phenomenon.
OK, I looked this up because it just seemed silly to me. The only thing that can happen to eyes through second hand smoke is dry eyes. There's some stuff that regular smokers have a higher chance for, but none for second hand smoke.
You and your sibling needed glasses because of genes, not because of smoke.
I have no idea how one develops this skill. How do you forgive somebody like that? How are you able to get past the ignorance part? I'm not being facetious. I want to be more like you.
tyjet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other than the smoking, my mom did everything to give me the best childhood she possibly could. She was not selfish. Often sacrificed to make sure I was provided for.
Syfildin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:37:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, at the end of the day, it's your mom. There are very few instances where they literally don't care for you, and it's hard not to love your mom, no matter what. I know there are exceptions, but everyone makes mistakes.
Not the OP, but addiction is a powerful thing and nicotine addiction is one of the most common and hardest to kick. Addiction clouds a person's judgement (to the people who say nicotine doesn't count in that because it's not an intoxicant, ever see a smoker choose between cigs and food? I have.) and the habit is so heavily ingrained that a lot of them can't imagine a routine without a cigarette in hand. My mother began everyday with a cigarette, every meal was followed by one. She smoked literally during every single event of her day. In my case, my mother was also abusive/neglectful and I don't forgive her for any of that. I could look past the smoking, if everything else wasn't there. Even the best people have flaws.
Same here, my mum smoked around me but it was never too bad, now that I'm living with my grand parents I cant stand it, they chainsmoke constantly downstairs and in the car, no wonder I hide in my room. Worst part is the smell of smoke makes my travel sickness worse.. ugh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she ever consider switching to dip/chew? No smoke, no smell, way more nicotine, half the price and about half the cancer risk. I've mostly switched but I still have a cigar every now and then.
tyjet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She stuck with cigarettes until the day she passed away from other health problems.
My boyfriend has asthma, both of his parents have smoked his whole life and I believe his mother smoked while she was pregnant. He started smoking around 14 and quit about 8 months ago at 23. I'm very proud of him. The culture here (US south) is heavily biased toward tobacco use. He told me he quit so he'd have a better chance of being there for me and our kids.
My mother smoked constantly in the house and in the car with the windows rolled up. If we coughed, we were punished for "whining" and "trying to make her feel bad". I lost part of my hearing due to an ear infection, of which I had many as a child. I believe I may have asthma, but only realized recently that that might be the case. If I do, I've had it all my life. I am not a smoker, never have been. I love that my boyfriend doesn't smell like cigarettes anymore. It was very hard for him to quit, I don't believe that it's possible for everyone to do so, but there's no excuse for smoking indoors/around non-smokers.
tyjet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the US South, too. It's heavily ingrained into the culture here. My asthma has improved but I still have the occasional day when it gives me trouble. I think just getting away from it has helped. I absolutely don't allow it in my home. I make my guests smoke outside.
I never had asthma but when I was a kid my mom would always smoke in the car with me and my sister also in the car and it used to make me so sick, years later I started smoking and she had quit and I lit a cigarette in my own car with her in the passenger seat she bitched endlessly about how rude it was to smoke in the car with non smokers in the car.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:07:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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JasonDJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense. AAP says second- and third-hand smoke is a SIDS risk. I wouldn't chance it.
My mom smoked when she was pregnant with me. I was born 9 weeks early and I have Asperger's and ADHD. I would be so happy if all tobacco simply disappeared, as far as I'm concerned it's evil, nasty shit on the same level as meth.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can relate. I had surgery on my left lung when I was 7, and had to use a drain tube for days. One day, the nurse entered the room and caught my dad smoking.
I'd agree if they hadn't been told specifically not to smoke in the house. It's one thing to no know, but they blatantly ignored medical advice to the detriment of their child. That absolutely qualifies, I'd think.
You can't plead ignorance to someone who gave you explicit instructions so that's out. Knowingly hurting your child out of stubbornness isn't mitigating so that's out too. 0/2.
D0nil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Easy there SJWs" BWAHAHA
Nowadays if someone doesn't like ANITHING he's a "SJW".
This term reminds when as kid there was this stupid word everyone repeated just to sound cool, but then you realized you sounded like an idiot.
people forget that smoking is just like any other drug addiction and smokers will rationalize their drug use abd make excuses like any other addict will.
I got ear infections constantly as a kid because of my parents smoking and I blame that for my tinnitus now.
I'm not a doctor, but my husband was an in patient at emergency when I overheard the doctor next to us. The doctor was German and the patient was Aboriginal, both with thick accents possibly making it harder to understand each other.
Doctor: You need to stop drinking, your liver isn't working.
Patient: I don't drink.
Doctor: You have cirrhosis of the liver, you need to stop drinking.
Patients Wife / Daughter: He doesn't drink.
Doctor: No more alcohol.
Patient: Okay, I'll only have two a day.
My mother is very naive, some of that was fixed by having teenagers and explaining sexual slang and jokes to her. But when she first donated blood she was much younger. They asked if she drank. She said "Of course I drink, who doesn't?" They eventually explained to her that when asked that in a medical setting, it means alcohol.
Hey, I was that guy, once.
Admittedly, it was after a pretty vicious motorcycle crash, and I was only about half-aware of what was going on in that ER station. When the nurse asked if I'd had anything to drink, I went with the literal interpretation.
I have no idea what was crossing his mind, there could be an underlying medical issues. But I was shocked myself.
fizzunk ยท 258 points ยท Posted at 01:12:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in Japan teaching English. One of my students is a 2nd year nursing student.
When talking about our weekend I told her I donated blood and she freaked out. As in "you can't give foreign blood to Japanese people or they'll die" freak out.
Actually RE is exactly where I remember it from... and I'm pretty sure I remember the FF7 Character bios including this too... Here's hoping RE7 doesn't suck.
Eh, I live here and I wouldn't say they are biased in a negative way towards Americans at least. People usually react positively or not at all to me and the foreigners we all know.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. Japan was a wonderful place for me to learn tone. It's not what they say, it's how they say it. I heard a few use a tone that clearly meant gaijin = n-word. Mostly, though, just being American made me a rock star. That was a while ago, though, everything changes. Would love to go back, but have no idea how things are now.
Their word for foreigner, gaikokujin (ๅคๅฝไบบ) literally translates to 'outside country person'. It's a literal description of what a foreigner is. The assertion that this word is equivalent to the 'n word' probably depends largely on who is saying it and what their tone is.
Yeah, well doctionary facts do not sum up the culture for sure. Do some reading up on it ;)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:09:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When one word is so bad that you won't even type it, but the other you freely type with no remorse....you know the n word is not comparable to any other word in its level of offensiveness.
I have no problem with any racist terminology in any language. However, reddit mods sometimes get finnicky about it ;)
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, it's easier to slip the foreign language slurs by, because reddit is mostly English speaking. People wouldn't take offense at some of the things I could say, just because they wouldn't know to take offense.
And you better believe some of the old-school countryside Japanese definitely mean "nigger", and worse, when they say"gaijin". Kurojin is maybe even worse, when used by certain folks in a certain way. It may be different now, but when I was there kurojin were at the very bottom of the totem pole.
it's mildly insensitive/not-PC, unless you're aggressively slurring it at people and adding derogatory tone markers to your speech (in which case the tone is the problem more than the word itself- kind of like how "Mexican" is not inherently offensive, but if you hear someone talking about "the mexicans" in a shitty tone you can probably assume racism)
Besides the obvious racism... Back then they may have had a point. If someone is chronically underemployed then they are probably are not going to be eating as well as they could so their blood could be lacking in certain nutrients or just in iron levels. The American red cross will not take your blood if it doesn't have enough iron in it now. Red Cross Guidelines for blood donors
Then there is sickle cell anemia which is more common in African American populations.
There has been tests with "tired blood" blood from tired dogs (I believe) and "young blood" blood from young mice injected into old mice and vice versa.
Edit: when I say tests on the last part I mean scientific studies where definite changes were shown soon after transfusions in test subjects.
Also in Japan as a navy corpsman. I've heard this multiple times from patients and from their workers when I tried to donate blood outside the clinic I work at, I was very confused
Isn't there a thing where if you go to another country, you can get sick easily because your immune system isn't used to all the things there? (SUPER professional technical lingo, I know) So maybe they thought their blood could carry everyday things they weren't adjusted to?
Ah I'm probably making an ass of myself...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tourist diarrhoea? Specifically, from food contaminated with various bacteria
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:23 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... sort of true. If you went to say, a first world country that you haven't been to, like going from America to Europe, you're probably okay because hygenine is just as good there. Just avoid raw food. But a country like India or many others around that region have
VERY different flora and fauna, and very different microbes. Your immune system hasn't been exposed to these microbes so it doesn't know how to respond at first.
However, it wouldn't matter if blood was from a foreign country and infected or not anyway. All donated blood goes through a rigorous testing process to make sure it doesn't have anything that can make you ill in it. Remember, a lot of these people receiving transfusions are already immunocompromised- they could be transplant patients, for example, or undergoing chemotheraphy, so you'd want to take extra precautions to ensure they're completely safe. So all the germs are weeded out anyway.
Eiethr way, you are right that someone will probably react less severely to a pathogen they've grown up surrounded by. For example, when the conquistadors moved into the Aztec and Maya Empires, their ships and soldiers were infected with smallpox. Even though smallpox is bad for everyone, duh, it had less of an effect on the conquistadors because they had been exposed to it from a young age, allowing their immune system to adapt. The locals died out because their bodies hadn't ever experienced something like that.
Rikolas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:55:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to come off as racist, no doubt i will. But, I can assure you, and anyone else who sees this, I'm far from it. But, an observation, that I'm fascinated with, I've been searching for an answer on and off, for years. How come it seems as if most people from foreign countries, don't understand the most simple concepts? I can understand, not understanding certain types of humor, but if i had a fairly decent grasp of another language, I don't see myself being confused on something like you mentioned in your post. I work with a Hmong women who for the life of her, doesn't understand what snow is. She also doesn't know you cannot drive normal when it's all over the road. She's been here over 20 years, and still doesn't get it. And simply put, I don't get it. If I went to where she was born, and lets say it rained glass. I'd most likely go, okay, that's odd, but let me think about what could be causing this first. Next, I'll ask someone. Then I'll research, and know exactly why it rains glass, and I will forever know why it exists, and how to handle it. I sound terrible, I really do, but it's almost frustrating.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:37:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly? Independence and self reliance aren't a thing in some countries. You rely on a code, a set of guidelines set by your ancestors and everyone is expected to follow them and not question it. Anyone who does so is labeled a weirdo and an outcast. While that sounds extreme, it's kind what happens.
That's because you had an education that at the very least, introduced you to the scientific method and told you you were a bad/stupid person for not being able to adjust to change in the pursuit of solving a problem. That, if you have a square hole and a round peg, you cannot, in fact, try to put the round peg in the square hole, but that you must pick up a square block instead and use that. Unfortunatley, many countries don't teach people, either in school or out of it, to be flexible and think with their heads, but rather, "monkey see monkey do", and "don't ask questions, it's seditious and rude". So, yeah. Blame culture. It's not a racial thing, it's a "this is why certain countries own all the wealth and another countries do not" thing. There's a reason the Hmong were the ones paying tribute to the Han and their emperors and not the other way around.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tw231116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not too surprised by this. Japan used to teach as scientific fact that Japanese people are biologically different (i.e. superior) to other humans. Not anymore, but there is still a pervading xenophobia.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you fuckin gaijin - get your filthy blood out of here.
Turns out some places do have odd blood types, like Bombay blood, and foreign blood isn't always quite as useful.
wilusa ยท 993 points ยท Posted at 21:46:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is kind of the opposite. I'm a patient and went to a doc in the box because i hurt my foot and i have diabetes. (foot injuries should always be checked when you have diabetes) the Doc at the urgent care pricked my finger and saw that my sugar was 150. I just had lunch and my "normal" is between 120 and 150. He told me i had to lower it and said i should drink a coke because coke always regulates peoples sugar for some reason and he doesn't know why. I say no thanks and and he gets all mad cause he's the Dr and doesn't want me to leave until my sugar goes down. I called my real Dr while he was out of the room and after getting yelled at for going to a doc in the box he said he'll take care of it. 2 mins later the nurse came in and i was free to go. I didn't see the Dr. on the way out. Either with a different patient or avoiding me. Ill never go there again.
Edit: A "doc in a box" is any urgent care facility acting as a primary/ER but not quite either.
upon hearing the question most people think of the beverage by that brand name. The answer reveals that Doctor Pepper is the name of a man. His wife being dead, he has found a new place to come.
mecaenas ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:16:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. It's a drink. Huh. I thought it was some reference to a Beatles album.
Maur2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:52:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, that is Sergeant Pepper. Dr. Pepper's less popular younger brother.
nmpibb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think of the can as being shaped like a box. A stained, bad smelling box.
Tjodleik ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 23:07:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He told me i had to lower it and said i should drink a coke because coke always regulates peoples sugar for some reason and he doesn't know why.
What ... How ... I can't even ...
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I'm a diabetic myself, and I struggle to find the words necessary to express exactly how stupid that is. Coke has sugar in it. Large amounts of sugar. And this is supposed to lower blood sugar how, exactly? Jesus fucking Christ, what a moron.
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[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 23:35:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tjodleik ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:56:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I can sort of understand the logic, but since the doc had a tester and OPs blood sugar was perfectly fine, it kind of bugs me anyway.
Edit: Missing words.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me wrong, the doc was completely 100% wrong. They should have known better. For a first aid situation he would have been right, but at his level of training wrong. I shouldn't post crap on Reddit when it is past my bed time.
The point i was trying to make is that the average person should not be afraid to give a person sugar in a diabetic crisis. It can save lives. I am guessing the doc fell back on that training because he had no clue.
dfn85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Ritalin is essentially meth and treats hyperactivity.
/exaggerated sarcasm
Seicair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Adderall*. Ritalin is a different chemical class, adderall's just a methyl group shy of meth.
abhikavi ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:19:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you call the guy who graduated lowest in med school? Doctor.
I had a doctor tell me that there were no risks with anesthesia. I asked her to clarify (what about... everything from chipped teeth to death) and she assured me that those were myths.
The anesthesia thing is really interesting, actually. Thirty years ago, anesthesiologists had the highest rate of malpractice suits and caused a ridiculously outsized number of deaths and serious injuries. Malpractice insurance was ridiculously expensive, and it was becoming a serious problem.
So their trade organization did a bunch of research and figured out how to safely sedate and anesthetize people.
Now they have among the lowest rates of medical malpractice, and the risks are extremely minimal.
What's funny is, when the free market actually DOES work for the consumer, that's when the Republicans seem to want to step in (tort reform etc) to prevent it from working.
Uh...can you specifically tell me which part you disagree with?
'Cause my niece is doing most of them just 2 months after graduation at the cardiologist's office she now works at. The cardiologists are not even in the same physical location....
To open an office, they have to have a charting physician, but there are now "charting physician services" and PAs use them to legally open offices and work on their own.
Well, I simply don't agree with the fact that PAs are "full doctors" because they are not, they did not attend medical school. Completely different scales of education, in case you weren't aware. PA is a year of didactic and then one year of clinicals (1+1=2). MD is 2 didactic years, 2 clinical years, 3-4 years of residency, subsequent 3-5 years of fellowship to specialize, like a cardiologist for example (4+3+3= 7 minimum)
PAs cannot function or exist without physicians. :)
They did not take medical school. But this is a division perpetuated and supported by the AMA to keep medical care at a premium. They go to a school, after earning an undergraduate pre-med degree. The school teaches medicine, in both theoretical and clinical settings. There are frequent and grueling tests covering all systems of the body. They use the same textbooks at medical schools. They do clinical rotations, then go for a residency.
But yea...they're not medical schools.
PA is more like 2 years didactic + 1 year clinical + 1 year residency. (my niece just finished her 1 year residency in an underserved community in GA) Not talking about specialties so let's drop that off to pad the ol' resume.
As I explained in another response: I think MDs are helpful, but perpetuating the stereotype that PAs aren't "real doctors" in the meaningful (not titled, obviously) sense of the word is unhelpful. In most practices that are using them now, PAs are likely to be the ONLY person in direct contact with the patient...for years at a time.
The more common term for PAs & NPs is "advanced practice providers." You'll hear "mid-level provider" every so often too, but we (I'm an NP) don't like that one very much. It implies you'll get a lesser level of care from us, and even less from an RN, so meh.
I do have a question for you: is there a doctoral level degree for physician assistants? I am a nurse practitioner with a doctorate (a DNP), which makes me a "doctor," but not a physician, MD, or DO.
PAs can't write prescriptions for certain meds. They can recommend the plan of treatment to the doctor but a doctor will have to sign off on the meds (usually Schedule II meds, I believe) At my pain management doctor, I mainly see the PA unless the doc is bored or my pain isn't stable. But the doctor always signs off on the prescription.
PAs are great and I mostly see them these days, except at my new rheumatologist. She doesn't have one yet. My old rheumatologist had a great PA. I've only had one bad NP at my endo and we just couldn't see eye to eye on anything.
FYI, from the DEA ( checked both AZ and CA, the 2 states where my niece has worked)
For PAs-
Drug Schedule: 2, 2N, 3, 3N, 4, 5
Action: Prescribe, Administer, Dispense & Procure
Interesting. Here's the table I used. Says they can do it in FL, but "in accordance with law" Like there's someplace that they're allowed to do it however they like?
No, it looks like there is a very complicated contract with a physician for five years and you have to pay a fee. So it's still under physician review. I know that the pain management clinic I visit doesn't provide that. Neither does my PCP. All Schedule II meds are signed off on by him.
Right. As I mentioned early on, there are now "charting physician services" that PAs can pay so they can operate on their own.
Not sure how many want/are doing that...but it's a real world thing.
We're talking a few different things. I was remarking about what was legal/possible. Different medical providers/organizations/networks can each have their own rules/practices that they like, as long as they're within the law.
For instance, my niece tells me that in many parts of the country, nurse practitioners are the rule and PAs are essentially unemployable. Inothers, the reverse is true.
I should clarify. OP seemed to imply that a PA couldn't render "doctor" type care, but rather only give shots, etc like at a minute clinic.
But they can, and do and under very little supervision. Little supervision as in my wife and I have had PAs as our primary care physicians for dozens of years and never even seen or met the charting physician.
So...I get your perspective as a medical professional. But having people not trust a PA as a part of normal care isn't helpful.
Sure, no worries. I think the OP was expressing surprise that the story from an even more OP related that there was a physician working at the minute clinic, when in OPs experience that is almost never the case (instead, that they are staffed by PAs). Probably varies by region and by chain of clinic.
Not always under-qualified, just over-worked. It's usually like 1 doctor and 8 nurses, so the nurses run the gambit and the doctor comes by to say 'yep, it's a patient!'
RavNavi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see that. I'm an EMT and work in an area with a lot of urgent cares. We've been called for silly things like "I THINK I have a UTI" and the doctor did not even perform the testing for it, just immediately called us to take them to the hospital. We've had doctors not able to read EKGs (they were fine) or just hear what the patient has to say instead of performing their own examination and taking their word for it.
Sorry for that, I have interstitial cystitis and sometimes it is hard to tell if I have a UTI or just a flare. I went to the urgent clinic one time thinking they could just do a test and call antibiotics in for me if necessary. Nope, made me take an ambulance to the real hospital. Fucking useless.
RavNavi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:04:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh never apologize for if a doctor calls and ambulance for you, you have no control over that. It's the doctors we get annoyed with, not the patients if it's not legit.
"x" in a box just means someone went to a place that isn't the place they usually go to. For example, barber in a box...
Levi182 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:56:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a doctor tell me that I should probably consume a little lactose even though I'm lactose intolerant because it will slow down my digestive track and help my diarrhea.
I went to two separate doc in the boxes in two separate counties with pneumonia symptoms. Both told me that I had the flu, that ibwas too young and too healthy to get pneumonia (I had had it twice before mind you, and had lost aboit 7 pounds in 4 days), and one even told me that I had never had the flu before. I refused to leave the second guys office until he ordered me a chest a x ray. Turns out I was right. I had pneumonia. The hospital called me directly to tell me my results.
mugsoh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pneumonia can be caused by the flu, they are not mutually exclusive. You may have been right about the pneumonia, but that doesn't make them wrong about the flu.
I didn't go to a doctor until about a week after I felt sick. Plus both the nasal swabs for the flu came back negative. Neither wanted to give me a chest a x ray because they said me having pneumonia was impossible. (Yes, they said impossible). It wasn't until I refused to leave at the second one that one was even ordered.
mugsoh ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:48:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The tests came back negative but they told you that you had the flu anyway? Something's not right about your story.
Nope, this has happened to me at least five times. (Being told I had the flue when tests were neg. It's happened both when I had pneumonia and when I didn't.)
Its 100 percent true. I'm not lying. The second guy said some bullshit about the tests being only 60 percent accurate or some shit. Still told me I had the flu. Told him, I know what the flu is and it has never once lasted more than a few days. He turns back and says that I havent had the flu before then.
They refused to believe that a 26 year (this was 3 years ago) woman in scent health had pneumonia. That it was impossible. Thats why I wanted the chest x ray. To prove that I was right.
And they were PA s too so not sure if that changes anything. The first one only swabbed one nostril the second guy did both. Both came back negative. Still refused to believe me when I told them I didnt have the flu.
Because apparently I don't know the differnece, despite ending up in the hospital when I was 6 with pneumonia (but that time it had been diagnosed as a cold bya nurse).
Finie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The majority of the flu tests given at doctors offices are 60% sensitive at best during flu season, which means it'll miss 4 out of 10 positive results, even with a good sample. Those tests have to be followed up by culture (or PCR) for a true negative diagnosis. There are now rapid PCR tests that are >99% sensitive but they aren't widely used yet.
"Flu" is also a catchall term for several respiratory viruses. Typically, the lower respiratory viruses (Influenza, RSV, MPV, Adenovirus, Parainfluenza, and Enterovirus) cause illness lasting a minimum of 2 weeks to 2 months. Coronaviruses and Rhinoviruses usually last 1 week, with just a few days of misery.
Still doesn't change the fact that I did not have the flu. I had bacterial pneumonia. Which in this case they were telling me was impossible that I could have.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:23 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They refused to believe that a 26 year (this was 3 years ago) woman in scent health had pneumonia. That it was impossible.
this is kind of funny to me because one of my cousins is a really healthy, outdoorsy type guy, loves to go hiking in the mountains and stuff, has a physical job, works out, plays sports in his free time, basically is just a really healthy dude. except that he seems to be really prone to pneumonia. the last time i heard he had it, he had viral pneumonia which he said was the worst because he just had to ride it out. i don't understand doctors being so unwilling to trust a patient, especially if the patient, like you, has a history of what they're saying they have?? like come on, it's not like you get a high from a chest x-ray and possible antibiotics
I won't even go to the doctor when I have a cold (because its a virus what are they foinf to do), or the flu. Like why would you deny me a chest x ray? I hope they realize I had ended up in the hospital I woild have sued the both of them for my medical bills.
That's happened to me a few times, too. I've had two specialists tell me that a lot of GPs and ER docs just call anything that has flu symptoms and is reasonably believed to be viral the flu.
Eg. I went in for severe, full body pain, had vomiting (from pain), high fever... Got tons of tests done, including a spinal tap. Everything came back clean (including flu test), was told it was the flu.
The entire time I'm thinking (as best I could with a 103 temp), "do you really think I'm going to come in requesting a chest x ray for the damned flu? If it was the flu I wouldnt have come to see a doctor."
I was incoherent from pain until I was on IV pain killers of some sort, at which point I was screaming in agony until I threw up and then writhing and moaning, at which point I was told to cut the hysterics because my heart would stop if I got any more pain killers.
Blah blah, battery of tests, 100+ fever, spinal tap (worst test), definitely not meningitis. Sent home with opiates and a slap on the ass saying "It's just the flu, but now you need pills because of the spinal tap that you didn't ask for and didn't even present the symptoms for needing."
I'm sorry, does their coke contain insulin or something? What the actual?
wilusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people drink coke to raise their levels when their meds drop their sugar too low (low sugar can be way worse than high sugar) because coke is liquid and concentrated sugar so it acts quickly. I once had my sugar drop below 60. i drank a can of coke and 15 mins later i felt fine. But at 150, i shouldn't be anywhere near a coke.
The thing with that is it's not an all in one solution. You need to promptly follow it up with carbohydrate to prevent a secondary hypo - otherwise the coke will send your sugars up then crashing back down again.
wilusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah its not a great solution for sure but is sometimes the only option you have. its a shitty life for sure.
Question: where do you live? Whenever I see people talking about their sugar levels online they're always using much higher numbers than the people I see IRL.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:04:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US the units are different, so a good fasting sugar would be something like 88, and a normal after-meal sugar might be 114. I understand that in other countries you're looking at a one-digit number usually.
In the US it's usually expressed as mg/dL, but a lot of other places use mmol/L. Assuming I'm remembering my intro chemistry and can do math today, the difference between these is a factor of 18.
Went to an urgent care clinic last year for the first and only time. I had gone to a concert 2 days before, it was absurdly hot and I got dehydrated. I couldn't rehydrate myself and didn't want to pay the ED co-pay so I went to the UCC. Doctor missed my vein several times while lecturing me on the consequences of using drugs at concerts. I didn't use any drugs. He refused to listen because "everyone who comes in dehydrated after a concert did drugs."
Never trust those guys - I once went to a doc in the box for suspected bronchitis. Guy looked in my throat and said "Your tonsils look fine," to which I replied, "That's good, since I had them taken out when I was seven." :/
UrethraX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"for some reason and he doesn't know why" Was this an actual doctor or a patient who stole a lab coat?
"drink a coke" ? There was a scene from that Michael J Fox movie where he was a fill-in doctor in a small town, and wanted to operate on some patient. The regular doctor phoned in and told him all his patient needed was a Coke. Turns out that's what the patient needed (I don't remember why). Was the doctor making a joke reference?
JustVan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:18:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the doctor making a joke reference?
When you're diabetic, two things can happen. One, your blood sugar can be too low. The other is that your blood sugar can be too high. When it's too high, you need insulin to lower it. When it's too low, you need sugar to raise it. The doctor clearly didn't know enough about diabetes to really understand the difference. The patient had a high-but-normal level of sugar, and the doctor wanted him to have a Coke to lower the sugar, but the Coke thing is only meant to be used when the blood sugar is low.
Though generally you should use medicine instead of Coke, and according to some other replies in this thread having a too-high blood sugar is better than a too-low blood sugar, so if in doubt whether a patient is too low or too high, giving extra sugar is the better choice.. But the doctor knew it was 150 which was within normal, so nothing should've been done.
gino188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Your blood sugar is too high. I recommend a massive intake of sugar." I'm shocked that this makes sense to anyone, let alone a doctor...
wilusa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What really bothered me later is i told several people at work this story and about half the people knew this as a normal thing to do. Even co-workers that are diabetic. I pleaded with them not to drink coke when their sugar is high but people just don't change their minds. Like it's what my daddy told me so it must be true kind of thing. And yes, i live in the south.
Well I'm not a doctor but I'm a postpartum nurse. Let's see, that pee comes out a difference hole than the baby does. We don't allow female circumcision in our hospitals and male circumcision ISN'T mandatory. That newborns can't be potty trained.
Why not the ones asking for male genital mutilation?
merouch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:32:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't see the difference, I don't really have words for you. Not saying I agree with either but acting like there is no difference is kind of ludicrous.
There are several types of FGM, some resemble foreskin amputation more closely. Also, it is a permanent, irreversible and cosmetic surgery performed on a newborn. And to top it off, it hurts like hell.
Of course there are differences, but that doesn't make one more acceptable than the other. Both are irreversible and unnecessary surgery performed without any sort of informed consent. In other words, unacceptable.
merouch ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:00:02 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love that you make it seem like the differences are extremely casual and not that bad. For anyone interested, here's a nice list of differences.
Also, I've had friends who's sons have had to get circumcised due to issues with the foreskin later in their childhood. Women will never require a circumcision. Please imagine a giant eye roll from me here.
So you equate actual medical issues occurring later in life with completely unnecessary and irreversible surgery performed without informed consent?
Of course there are differences and female genital mutilation is obviously even worse, but that doesn't in any shape way or form make male genital mutilation acceptable.
It's rather telling that people are going "Well it's not that bad!" about genital mutilation as long as it's a guy getting the knife.
merouch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:07:54 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people I've known that have had to get their children circumcised for medical reasons have still had children at an age that they cannot consent.
The "for medical reasons" should probably be the bit to focus on there. That sort of negates the whole unnecessary and irreversible surgery bit, don't you think?
Why is this so acceptable when the same people would have a fit the moment someone got the bright idea to have their toddler receive unnecessary cosmetic plastic surgery?
Seicair ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read that infants can be potty-trained before. It does involve watching them closely to recognize the signs that they need to go, considering they can't walk or even crawl yet, but apparently there are people that don't use diapers except at night if at all.
My mother-in-law's doctor has had to tell her multiple times that Dr. Oz is not her doctor and to stop doing everything he says. She still believes that Dr. Oz is more qualified than her actual doctor to manage her diabetes.
I used to work in an organic grocery store. We sold a lot of vitamin supplements and whatnot as well. A lot of it was crap, but most of it was just the usual multivitamins and whatnot, but without gelatin, or other additives for shelf life or taste.
We had people come in constantly, telling us that they needed some random fucking extract, because oz said it was going to cure their cancer.
EVERY FUCKING TIME "DR." OZ SHOWED UP ON TV, FOR DAYS AFTERWARD.
I must have explained to over 100 customers that goji berries are just a novelty snack. No extra antioxidants (no more than any other fruit really), no "amazing" benefits, and certainly NO FUCKING CANCER FIGHTING ABILITY.
Blows my mind that people don't understand that oz is out to make money, and he can't diagnose you from the set of Oprah while you read up on the dangers of vaccination. (That's another story.)
In my organic market days, I often found myself shooting an email to the buyers' office to ask if they really meant to buy 11 flats of some shit or had just pressed '1' twice.
Half the time the email just came back saying 'Dr. Oz.'
Oh god I know right? I remember receiving massive skids of that reishi mushroom supplement he plugged. I was worried about having room for it until my manager walked by and said "Oz plugged it last week."
We all just rolled our eyes and shoved it into the corner. It was gone in 2 days.
We were a smaller outfit and only got three UNFI shipments a week, so we had a constant problem of not being able to get that shit in the second he plugged it, so people had already hit up the Whole Foods by the time ours arrived. Lots of waste mouldering in the corners because of that man.
I work on a medical helpline in the UK, I have a number of these.
1, an ambulance isn't a taxi service to take your lazy ass to a hospital appointment, you need to get there yourself.
2, you will not have caught Ebola from touching the black taxi drivers hand when he gave you your change
3, you can get pregnant even if he pulls out, he is 50 and you are 25 you should both know this
4, putting a deodorant can up your arse is never going to end well, off to A&E you go
These are just some of the ones I can think of right now
It was for me on the phone, it was the second time it has happened to the man who called up though. Had a few calls come through about vibrators being stuck up there but I can understand how that would happen more
Why do some people think black people carry ebola? Like, not even just Africans specifically, which is still a stupid and bugfuck racist assumption, but almost understandable in its stupidity, but black people in general?
The darkness of their skin is not a thin layer of ebola-laced feces, people, it's melanin!
It was an elderly lady, no excuse for being racist but I think she was uneducated about the virus and presumably thought anybody black would have it
norsish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, I'm gonna need a citation or reference of some kind to support your statement. Melanin you say? Maybe it's just better to be safe than sorry. I mean, this melanin thing could be right, but they must look different for a reason. Could be a dangerous reason and my neighbor down the street says that shit comes form Africa, so...
EDIT: I appreciate your use of the word "bugfuck".
EDIT again: ANd I just realized you added feces to my list of fears that already included ebola and black people. Which means I should proabably be afraid of melanin, too.
I saw this before in another thread. In the UK there are taxis that are black and referred to as black taxis. It's not about skin color so much as skin contact with someone that has a lot of exposure to the public.
Ah yes, 111... I feel like you may get the dumbest of the questions because its the sort of 'least time taken'/first point of contact service. I've sometimes felt a little silly explaining my problem there, but then I remember there's probably far worse and I wouldn't have been sent to A&E of I was actually being silly.
Yes we do get the dumbest of the dumb, it angers me that people cannot cope with a cough and a cold. I've had people not be happy to wait so said they will go to A&E, one person was because of a paper cut and they actually went to A&E. People complain about the NHS but it's the people who abuse it like this that have ruined it
I'm not a medical professional, but if you're an idiot and have a cold, I'd be much happier they phone 111 and spend 5 minutes of someone's time to find out its ok than go to A&E or something haha
If they just wanted to know it would be okay that would be fine, but they ring up acting like they are on their last legs, exaggerate everything, demand antibiotics that won't work for a viral infection then get all arsey when you give them advice to cope at home and not a drs appointment at the out of hours drs because their own Dr would refuse to see something so menial as an emergency and they would have to wait a week or longer for said appointment with their own gp.
To be fair, I called 111 the other day and they straight up sent me an ambulance after hearing my symptoms even though my friend could have driven me quicker, if you don't hear the call I wouldn't just assume it's just entitled folk who want an ambulance ride
It's like a vacuum, sucks it up and the sphincter closes and the deodorant can twisted so couldn't get it out, was the second time for this person aswell
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not like a vacuum. It is a vacuum. (Physical vacuum, not vacuum cleaner.) Sorry, I've devolved into the pedantic. I should probably get off reddit, now, but I don't have enough sense.
I once sat in a bus station in the southern U.S. with a kind but obviously developmentally disabled man who was waiting for an ambulance to bring him to the hospital, because the TV got good channels there.
This is hilarious but sad at the same time. Somewhere along the line people like this have been let down by people who should have been supporting and helping them
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:50 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you in 111? In which case, please stop telling me to go to the ER every time I call. I'm trying to avoid that
Yes I am with 111. It's pathways based so from the answers you give it ways up clinically what the best care for you would be, if you feel it has been too cautious with your assessment then you can refuse what you are told and speak to one of the nurses or paramedics who can assess you in more clinical detail to get you better care? Hope this helps at all
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:09 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh we just have a joke and I politely decline. I know enough about my condition that 99% of the time I just want to know if I should go bother the GP the next day.
Last time I was hopped up on codiene when my shoulder subluxated so bad I was crying but it was wait it out or spend 4 hours in the ER, where all it would do is keep hurting, to get even more drugs and screw that noise.
Y'all do great work though and thank you for being good sports about everything.
You sound like one of the people who actually need the service! It's a pleasure to help people who need it, not people who can't think for themselves and demand help they don't need.
My professor who's a doctor told us a story of how she was too shy to explain to a patient how to take vaginal suppository. She told the nurse to give the patient the instructions. A week after, the patient came back asking why the vaginal suppository tasted like that. Apparently the patient took the vaginal suppository orally because the nurse was also too shy to tell the patient that it has to be inserted in the vagina. Taboo is extreme in our country.
Jesus, I just counted the holes. What is wrong with me?
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yer either missing some or got some extra?
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:44:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a patient came in complaining her pills for her constipation were so big she had to bite them on half, and wanted to know if we could prescribe her something smaller.
She was eating her suppositories. She didn't know what suppository meant and thought it was the name of a type of medication like Tylenol or motrin.
Actually, that may explain why their birth rate is so stubbornly high. As in, so high, the Pope gently suggested they try to be less like rabbits. (His words, not mine.)
Kodix ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:06:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The country eccentrish is talking about is Phillipines. It's a bit unsurprising, pretty much every interaction I've had with someone from there has been bizzare in one aspect or another.
(I stalked like 4 posts down within their post history.)
iznotiz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So extreme that the doctors don't doctor. Useful.
Spazmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:32 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma did this. She had a yeast infection and I guess either my mom or the pharmacist assumed she knew/would read the instructions.
How do women have pap smears in your country? Or breast exams?
alte3 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 03:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a physical therapist who was on a clinical rotation in a hospital on the ortho floor. There was a patient who left the hospital following a total hip replacement and dislocated the hip in a fall at home. She was brought back to the hospital and I saw her in her room to walk her around the floor. She was convinced she was kidnapped from her home and brought to a fake hospital where she was being held hostage. I had to sit there for a half hour and try to convince her of what actually happened, and that she was in a real hospital with real people that weren't all actors. She had some really good points though, made me really question my reality.
alte3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:36:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked her why she thought we were all actors. She responded by saying the entire staff had predictable actions, predictable responses, predictable cyclic routines. Nobody would stop to talk to her for more than five minutes, and she wasn't allowed to get up from her chair by herself. Which, if you were confused, I'd understand why you'd think you were being held hostage and we were actors, although, it sais more about the state of our hospitals than anything.
Then the kicker. She told me that I might be being held hostage too and that we were the only two real people. I was forced to come in day in and day out and adhere to a busy routine, treating actors just to keep me occupied. I asked what I was being occupied from finding out. She responded with, "The Truth".
nemo_sum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:32:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse practitioner here. I had to explain to parents they needed to feed their baby. The baby was in our NICU for low sugars, and the Mom wouldn't let us give formula, or start an IV and wouldn't come to breast feed. I explained how low blood sugars can lead to brain damage, and that didn't phase them.. they wouldn't come or consent to anything. I then launched into how they were putting their child at risk and my next call was to child protective services.
I didn't. After birth people can get a little stupid..they're tired, exhausted, and have been put through this incredibly stressful situation and then a lot of people get caught up on their birth plan and try to regain some control. It's always this when there's difficulties with feeding babies after birth.. and so it takes a good amount of patience to allow people to come to terms that it's not going the way things had intended.
This case was over and above, but we eventually got through to them. They turned out to be lovely and caring.
It was breastfeeding at any cost, complicated by the baby's being admitted to the NICU, so the parents couldn't see the baby hungry, and all they felt was tired so wouldn't come. Still dumb and then they became obstructive when we kept at them.
rigsta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I was driving for a Chinese family in the middle of July in California. Their kids got carsick and started throwing up everywhere. They put jackets on the kids and asked me to roll up the windows and turn the air conditioner off (I refused, and made them choose either windows open or AC full blast), because they were 100% convinced that being cold causes stomach problems. It was like 103 degrees outside. I couldn't convince them that no, cold temperatures do not in fact cause nausea but overheating does. They only listened after we had a tire blow out, and while we were pulled over a trooper told us to get in the vehicle, crank up the AC and take the kids' jackets off because the heat is dangerous. The mom is one of the smartest people I know otherwise. She's a professor, and is really quick and sharp at understanding concepts that are way above my head in our field.
Read it all then looked back at the top and saw Chinese again. Apparently their culture is very hot/cold yin/yang focused. You just can't shake it out of them. If you have a very yang personality you shouldn't eat hot foods because it'll make your personality quirks worse. Yin people should equally avoid cold foods. Even well educated people can find the notion hard to drop.
I had a world-renowned climate scientist from Korea tell me that tea is a "hot" drink (as in yin/yang kind of hot) and should never be drunk cold or it's bad for you. I asked him what in the tea made it a hot drink and he had no idea. I asked him what in any food made it a hot or cold food and again, no idea. I found it quaint that he perpetuated such a non-scientific idea.
I've had many asian children brought into the ED with a raging temperature and about 5 layers on! Ever heard of febrile convulsions mum? I know its a cultural thing, but come on. Your child has a temp of 40C, it's 36C outside and they have a parka on over 3 jumpers!
rigred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:09:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends and I actually were talking today about how many professors are academically geniuses. They can be top in their field but somehow not have even the slightest bit of common sense. I go to a top rated university (not to brag, I could care less about the rating, but basically all the professors are genius), some of these professors write textbooks and do groundbreaking research. However, it's more often then not that they are completely lost in situations that need common sense. It's weird to me but have seen it way too much.
The AC was on and windows up at first. I cracked the back windows then the kids threw up, because wind blowing in my face helps me when I am carsick. Then they asked me to turn it off and roll it up. I figured my story was long enough and y'all didn't need to hear every detail, or else I'd need a tl;dr
But not really, though. IMO it's more about the government building shitty power plants that can't handle the load of a fan and an aircon unit in each apartment (so many apartments), so they spread the rumor of fan death to avoid talking about the power outages that leave older or weaker people without any air-conditioning in the blistering hot summer (death by heat exhaustion) and to scare people into reducing the load on the shitty power plants (by not running fans).
Even if I'm wrong about this, it's not to cover up ceiling fan suicides, because ceiling fans are almost non-existent in Korea. Occasionally, I see some in restaurants, but even those are extremely rare.
IIRC, the suicides don't refer to hanging from ceiling fans, but are more commonly from carbon monoxide poisoning via charcoal / heating mini stove.
So when the authorities investigate a death in a closed room that has a burning charcoal stove & table fan, they can help the family of the deceased 'save face' by blaming it on fan death rather than declare it suicide.
This kind of makes sense, but at the same time, if they're covering up a lot of the suicides this way, wouldn't the suicide rates be artificially low? Everyone knows about the high suicide rate in Korea. It's a talking point for that country.
That a vegan diet is not a substitute for dialysis.
Had a patient come into the hospital, pale as a ghost, in a wheelchair, looking 40 years older than he was. I can't remember what was wrong with his kidneys, but two years before, his nephrologist had told him that it was time to start dialysis. He was upset about this, so he went to another nephrologist who told him the same. So he decided to stop seeing doctors altogether and went on a vegan diet instead. That wheelchair? Oh yeah, he bought it half a year ago when he couldn't walk anymore for some reason.
I wish I had taken a picture of his lab results. The only one I can still remember is Creatinine, which was above 5000 ยตmol/l. Potassium was somewhere in the "certain death" range, hemoglobin ridiculously low. He was taken to the ICU and finally got his dialysis, but his body was pretty damaged at this point. Don't know what became of him (it was during my training and I left soon after), but he didn't look like he could ever recover.
Conservative religious folk who think it's taboo to talk about sex raise conservative religious children who are never taught about sex and subsequently grow up to be relatively normal looking adults who are completely clueless about sex.
Sex education in the United States, especially in rural or religious.conservative areas, is absolute trash. There are 10 minute youtube videos that teacher better sex ed than what is required in most states.
I go to a Christian private school in the southern US. Th school are certainly not lacking the funds, but we still have exactly 0 sex ed at our school, leaving me to learn everything from you fine people on the interwebs.
divajedi ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:51:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus your parents can tell the school to pull you from sex ed classes if they're offered.
sonicFU ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:53:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's thanks Bush actually. Schools lost federal finding if they did not teach approved abstinence only Sex Ed. Not surprisingly teenage pregnancy went up along with STD and clueless adults.
ccm596 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I forgot the question wasn't just about sex misconceptions
It's also a popular fake story to apply to groups you think are wrongheaded. It used to be the Chinese primarily.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to assume there are entire communities that are pig-ignorant about sex. I mean, I literally don't remember a time when I didn't know what sex was, and that's likely because I had older brothers and I was sort of the mascot of the group when I was little. Older kids talked about "dirty things" and I was around to hear it.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is in the big three in these threads: Sex, sugar and gangrene, latter usually a directly related to the first two. Diabetes is high on these lists as is the hobos/homeless/redneck "oh, i do have this thing" and toes are dropping from the shoe.. A lot of poverty, poor education and human stubbornness.
Also, after reading these, i feel like i am monitoring my health really well.. and it makes me feel grateful having free healthcare and education that prevents two of the major three (we have stupid here as well, just that the stupidity is inexcusable and thus, socially shunned.... if you have poor education you can always blame that instead of people just being fucking lazy when it comes to learning.)
18 here. Know all about the existence of pain meds, just never which ones to take for the different kinds of pain. I really don't know the difference (if there is one) when it comes to naproxen sodium/acetaminophen/ibuprofen.
On mobile so sorry for messy links. 21 here and deal with pain related to scoliosis, tendinitis, menstrual cramps, and the occasional headache. I can tell you that naproxen sodium does diddly squat for me, but ibuprofen is my lord and savior.
Thank you!! My mom's a nurse, but every time she explains meds to me she talks more about the side effects than what you actually take them for. I've got the cramps (although they're better with my birth control) and headaches too, and I ache a lot because I get hurt by pulling muscles/sleeping weird/falling everywhere all the time.
For muscle pain/cramps I recommend ibuprofen, but try out acetaminophen if it doesn't work. Just make you don't double up/go over the dose. If the pain is long lasting, you can try alternating ibuprofen and acetaminophen. You never want to take these guys on an empty stomach, and besides I've found that munching on some crackers at the same time makes the pain go away faster. Bonus because you satisfy the salt cravings too! Oh, and whenever you take a pill make sure you drink the whole glass of water. Don't need dehydration headaches as well!
Salt makes my cramps a lot worse, so I'll stick to some other stuff. I drink a lot of flavored and sparkling water, so it helps a little too.
I just hate how much school it's made me miss. Our school has been weird with the rules on giving out medicine, and they obviously flip out if you bring it and take it on your own, so the pain usually just sends me home. I'd take stuff on the day it was going to happen, but it's always give or take a few days, and I don't want to take meds for no reason for that long. Thanks for the advice, though. I've been dealing with this since fourth grade, and stuff is just now getting a little bit better.
i once missed 66 days of school one year because I got pneumonia on top of missing nearly a week every month from cramps, they were that bad. I wasn't able to do college without narcotics for them.
Somehow, since I haven't gotten a cold yet, I've only missed 11.5 days this year. But since I usually leave school about halfway through when I feel bad, some of my teachers at the end of the day like to act like they never see me.
Calander ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:16:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pill can actually help tremendously on cramps and severity of period. Some may even completely stop menstruating, depending on the type. Sadly, many places it's got a bad rep of "being something you take because you want to have promiscuous sex".
Oh god, I know. Thankfully, it's pretty obvious that I'm not taking them for that. They've worked really well for me, with only a couple side effects. I'm just way too worried about taking one later than I normally do, since I got really sick from having two pills less than twelve hours apart.
Unfortunately I tend to drink caffinated beverages when I'm thirsty. I'm a fiend for coffee, tea, soda, and alcohol (finally 21 woooo!!!). Also I forget to bring water bottles to class so I'm stuck at school all day with only the wee drinking fountain. There was a while where I didn't drink any straight water at all! That is very unhealthy and I'm wondering how much more comfortable I would be if I drank the recommended 64 ounces.
The recommended 64 ounces refers to total H2O intake. You can actually get most of this through the food you eat, so you do not really need 64 ounces in glasses of water. Also, how much water you need depends on several factors, such as you weight, ambient temperature, and level of physical activity. Drinking caffeinated beverages and alcohol as you mention also increases the amount of water you need.
For me, acetaminophen or aspirin takes about 15 minutes ... naproxen takes a good hour to take effect, but then it works better and lasts longer ... and ibuprofen pretty much does nothing. But you know, everyone is different.
I was gonna type the same sort of comment. I recently turned 19, no idea. If I'm seriously ill/ill for more than a few days I'll go to my local doctor, why you'd go to Accident & Emergency is beyond me.
Exactly. I've only gone to the emergency room for doing stupid stuff as a kid (swallowing oxi-clean on accident, fingers in the car door, etc.). Thankfully I haven't broken anything yet, just bruised the hell out of myself. But yeah, the ER/A&E for an ache when you move your arm is pretty stupid.
sorator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why you'd go to Accident & Emergency is beyond me.
Well, that's for when you can't wait to get in to see a doctor; you have an issue that needs to be taken care of now.
Or if you know you can't afford a doctor, then you can go the emergency room and they have to take care of you whether or not you can pay, but that's a whole other can of worms.
To be fair, if I don't have an obvious reason for a pain I sometimes don't take anything so that I have an accurate read on whether the pain is getting worse or not. That way I know whether to seek medical attention
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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fardok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're never going to mask a surgical abdomen with just Tylenol or advil.
On the flip side of this, docs really need to stop discounting young people saying they have aches and pains. Went to the doc for a pain in my neck that I'd had for about 6 weeks. I knew how this was going to play out and didn't want to go. But I did. If I turned my head to far/too quickly pain would shoot down my neck and back and my knees would start to buckle. Was told it was "muscle soreness". No the fuck it wasn't. As someone who has held manual labor jobs and lifted weights on and off (regularly having DOMS) this wasn't muscle soreness. More than likely a pinched nerve but I wanted to make sure it wasn't something worse. Nope just brushed off. Took another 3.5weeks to go away.
I agree so much. Doctors and nurses, especially, who think they are the guardians of who to admit at hospitals are terrible. I went to a dead empty hospital and they were giving me tons of shit for walking in. Nurses were definitely not busy and doctors probably had few/none patients to tend to.
I go to school out of my home city and was scared and in pain with severe neck pain. Stayed up all night with the most painful neck cramp I've experienced, unable to sleep or turn my head even 5 degrees to the left and literally 0 degrees to the right. Living alone in an empty house with no family or friends around is scary.
I tough it out and can walk fine but am extremely light-headed. Genuinely scared that if I fell asleep the wrong way, my neck would be messed up for life, I call a taxi and go to the hospital...
Turns out it actually wasn't a big deal but damn, I took a couple pills and a big shot to the buttocks/thigh and was feeling better later that day (in your face asshole nurse who said the doc would just prescribe some Advil and poof).
If you aren't busy you could just give a kid some reassurance with a quick check-up during off-hours... If there was something severe, you could really mess up a young student's future/life.
Also, I strongly agree that having a check-up, if urgent, is not a waste of time. Taking meds to numb the pain won't help your body heal the way it needs to.
edit: The nurse had scolded me on how writing up a new patient costs taxpayer's money blah blah blah, ruining Canada's free healthcare blah blah blah. I understand that, but I also understand the pain I was in and that perhaps some over the counter meds may or may not have helped. I don't fully understand how hospitals make money off federal healthcare but either 1. The government isn't paying you to do nothing OR 2. My check-up may be paying for your salary.
^ fully aware that I may be stating naive things but you get the point. Parent parent "paladin" comment was pretty funny btw.
Fun fact: saying things like "my (whatever) pays your salary!" likely won't have the positive effect you think it'll have. Everyone will just think you're being a douche.
I agree. I have moderate-severe back pain, and it started around age 9. My doctor felt my spine, told me it was fine, and to take Advil when it happened.
6 years later I went to a chiropractor because the pain was so bad, and he sent me to get an X-ray. I have an extra vertebra that's half cartilage, and scoliosis. I would cry for hours sometimes, the pain was so bad, and it still happens! Twice a year (on average) it gets so bad that I can't move, and nothing I take will get rid of the pain. I really wonder if a brace or something when I was young could have prevented it from being so bad.
Rebelo86 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once crashed my bike and flipped it. After two days (crash happened on a Saturday), I was still in a ton of pain, so I called my doctor and they got me in that afternoon. After an x-ray to confirm I hadn't cracked any of the bones in my arm, he wrote me a prescription for 50 tabs of 500mg antiinflamitories. Because "I was going to need it." He wasn't wrong. I fell in a trail race a few months later and got banged up pretty bad.
I've been this patient. Turns out I probably pulled an abdominal muscle despite not exercising, but I went to the doctors thinking it could be an internal problem. I was pretty embarrassed when I realized I hadn't tried any pain meds. But my mom who is an rn had looked at my stomach and never suggested I try taking anything for the pain.
Despite my stupidity, that was the most valuable doctors appointment Ive ever had because that doctor decided to prescribe treatment for an unrelated condition I had likely had for years. Yay second opinions!!
Heh. I went to my GYN because of pain. Turned out I just pulled a groin muscle while boogie boarding. Freaking uncomfortable examination for nothing. But at least I'm glad it was nothing.
I'm a C. Mostly because I have an extremely high pain threshold, pain is the only red flag that tells me something is wrong and I need to see the doc. Just to make sure somethings major isn't going on. Typically the pain goes away after a good nights sleep. I will take a med if it's perscribed though!
"I think I might be hurt and want to find out the actual cause rather than conceal the pain until it turns out I have metastatic bone cancer and am dieing tomorrow".
Also, all medicine has side effects right? Why would I take pain pills that aren't necessary?
I generally skip pain meds unless it is interfering with my day, I'll take them for a headache without a second thought but if I have a sore neck or something I generally just ignore it. This comes in large part from feeling like my body has mechanisms to deal with pain and injuries which I am better off not interfering with. I figure inflammation has purpose so taking an anti-inflammatory isn't worth it unless I am inconvenienced with the symptoms.
I know handing out medical advice via reddit is frowned upon but if I could get a personal opinion disclaimed recommendation.
Is it actually better for me to take something when I have minor aches and pains than not?
I think you would need to be a cleric or wizard....
nkdeck07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm married to this guy.
Him: X hurts
Me: Did you take a pain killer and ice it?
Him: No
That's why it still hurts then
ItsMeTK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, but sometimes taking pills creates its own problems. I had an infected tooth and was in agony. Pain meds didn't touch it. Was wat up in the front of my head so I didn't know whethercthe unfection was dental or sinus or what. Anyway, I go to the ER (yeah yeah, don't if it's not an emergency) and they don't know what it is but since I don't have a fever they send me home. Of course Ionor presenting with a fever: I'm pumped full of ibuprofen which suppresses fever. So I ho home and swear off the pills for a day and boom, fever.
TL;DR- Couldn't get necessary meds for infection because pain pills suppressed my fever symptoms.
QuickBow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In relation to C I can't swallow pills that aren't tiny and it needs enteric coating, my gag reflex is so strong I start to choke.
I don't want to just take pain meds all the time for my sore elbow though, its been bothering me for months that would get expensive ><. I want to know if there is something else I can do to fix it. my job requires I lift heavy boxes all day ><
But Hospitaler is a prestige class that requires a few levels of Cleric or a bunch of levels of Paladin to get into. What do you mean you can't just invoke the God of the Sun?
I think people get "take the minimum effective amount of pain Meds" and "don't take pain medicine ever" mixed up. Minimum effective amount works wonders!
I'm definitely one of Those People who doesn't take otc pain meds until it's gotten very very bad. Now that I think of it, I think it comes from: 1) having undiagnosed eye issues growing up which resulted in migraines, which resulted in me taking otc pain meds every other day. My mom would always yell at me that I was taking too many and that it would damage my organs. 2) i got it into my head that if I take otc pain meds, I'm only masking the pain and not fixing the problem, and I could be covering up something BIG. None of this makes sense, i know.
RollAd20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C: I don't like taking pills (the fuck do you think I'm going to do, lay hands and make it better I'm not a fucking paladin!!!
I'm reminded of an episode of scrubs from this. It's where Dr. Cox tells a intern that the correct dosage of ibuprofen for a patient is the amount that's goes in there mouth when you throw the pills at them.
Seicair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me: Did you take any thing for the pain
Patient: no I didn't
Me: why
Personally, it's because NSAIDs are ototoxic and they give me tinnitus even after one dose. I'm worried that because they give me tinnitus so quickly that I'm more susceptible to the ototoxicity and don't want to lose my hearing.
I don't know if this is true? But the doctors I've asked about it have agreed with me.
Drews232 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They came to find out why they have the pain and for you to do medical testing to determine if there's an underlying problem that needs medical treatment that is causing the pain. They are looking for a diagnosis.
You telling them to take Tylenol is like the joke where a man goes to the doctor and says "my arm hurts when I lift it like this", and the doctor says "well don't lift it like that anymore!"
Okay, devils advocate here: I don't take pain medications for potential injuries - I'm barely willing to take them for headaches. I'm a firm believer that pain is your body's way of telling you "Hey fucker, don't do this!", and pain meds mask that and make you more likely to do more damage. I will only take them if the pain is too bad to sleep and I'm not going to be moving from the bed, or for the 10+ year old knee injury I have that still hurts, but they're as confident as they can possibly be without knowing what's wrong that I'm not able to do any damage to it. So maybe don't judge them for not immediately popping pills.
My other devils advocate for this topic: just because it sounds like something minor and stupid doesn't mean it is. I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, and the amount of times I've dislocated something and don't want pain meds but rather an X-ray or a reset... So they could be wanting it checked out, rather than the pain meds. Actually, let's take a moment here to acknowledge the amount of times I've had to fight for testing and/or imaging to be done on me because doctors wanted to give me opiates and send me on my way, rather than investigate the issue - often outright stating they don't know what's wrong - and then acting like I'm faking problems because I don't want drugs. I fall into the highest risk group for drug seeking - why am I getting opiates damn near forced on me?!
That being said, I'm also not going to go to the ER for something minor. I'm much more likely to wait around until my orthopedist can see me, with the noticeable exception of having a bone through the skin or something. I've gone to an urgent care once due to a dislocated collarbone, because I was in enough residual pain that I couldn't tell on my own if it was back in place and wanted an X-ray, and my orthopedist at the time was incompetent. Other than that, I've suffered through many dislocated ribs waiting on them to shift back in place rather than go into the ER, and I just spent three weeks with a torn labrum because I know my own body well enough to self-diagnose it, and my orthopedist was taking the holidays off. (That being said, I had an appointment the first day he was back in the office and his plan is PT and wait to see if it heals on its own before we intervene, so that wasn't as moronic to do as it sounds.)
That's why I like seeing specialists. I went to a regular doctor for random sharp shoulder pain. It would happen in different parts of my shoulder sometimes. She told me to take a couple Advil and come back if it still hurt in a couple weeks.
Next thing I did was ask if they have a sports medicine specialist. That doc manipulated my shoulder, found out I had problems with my rotator cuff, and started me on physical therapy.
As a guy who trys to avoid takeing pills, I do it because i seem to have a high tolerance for pain meds so i would rather not build it up my tolerance because i stubbed my toe or something. How i found this out was when i had my wisdom teeth removed and the doctor put me on 500mg Vicodin, i proceded to take 2 thrying to either pyt me on the moon or knock my ass out, they did nothing for me
tenjuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mojx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean I would be patient A, because I'm always paranoid that this random pain I'm having can actually be something worse, so I want a professional to assure me that it is just only a pain. ALso B, because I dont want to fuck up wich and how much meds I take and make it worse. I dont see why waiting for hours is a bad thing. To me it shows that you care about your health, really.
Honestly I would be this patient. I know I can take pain meds and it will go away, but I don't want that, I want to know why it hurts so I can fix it instead of just render it ignoreable.
This is what pisses me off every single time I search by symptom on the internet. I don't fucking care about stopping the symptoms, I want to fix the problem.
Slime0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why it baffles you that someone would want to find the source of a problem in their body before they mask it with pain medication and pretend it's not a problem.
A: they cant answer your questions if they can't feel what is going on.
B: really? They have different names. In life, things with different names do different things, and most people know that taking the wrong thing can mess you up.
C: refer to a physical therapist. They clearly have more of a clue than your 'educated' ass.
I'm not circumcised (which my mom had to specifically remind the doctors not to do since I was born in a Jewish hospital), and I never understood why using lotion was such a huge stereotype for jacking off. It's in movies, TV shows etc. I tried it once and didn't understand the big deal about it. I guess it makes a lot more sense now.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has nothing to do with it. I'm circumcised and masturbate freely. Whenever, wherever, multiple times a day even. If you're rubbing yourself raw masturbating, you have a technique problem, not a circumcision problem.
i mean... is this.. really true? like maybe my experience is different to every other non circumcised dude but it's sensitive in the same way your eyelids are, ie. not sexual at all but hurts like fuck if you jam it in a zipper
zipping up my chastity mask (like a gimp mask but i wear it because i'm saving my first kiss for after marriage)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, forgive me for being uninformed but what's a chastity mask? (Picture please?) I googled it and I'm only seeing dust masks and gimpmasks. Or are you joking?
My sister's classmate had a jacket pulled up over his head and was zipping it open and closed really fast and somehow got his eyelid caught in it. I remember seeing the ambulance arrive at the school.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, now I'm curious. My uncovered tip is far, FAR more sensitive than any other bit of skin in my body (and the inside of the foreskin is equally sensitive). The only way I can think to explain it is that if you were to flick it hard I'd probably cry.
No, you have misunderstood. The HEAD is where most of the nerves are and having a foreskin protects the extra nerves. Rubbing on your underwear/not having a foreskin to alow it to heal reduces the sensitivity.
Pasting here as well, I am circumcised, didn't get a choice in the matter (would have opted out if I could have) so I can't really say other than I have seen studies before.
I mean it is a legitimate question, given the circumstances. You seem to be reporting something that goes completely against medical evidence, and I find that just a little suspect. Another possibility is your foreskin rubs on your glans and you're confusing where the sensation is coming from.
NoFapMat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I have sex it's hard to identify which part gives me the most pleasure. From blowjobs or masturbating, when the foreskin is pulled back, i get the most pleasure from contract with the stretched foreskin, under the head, along the shaft.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:50:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is little change in the sensitivity of the penis from circumcision,
Okay, so the sensitivity of the part that's cut off is reduced 100%. We can agree on that, right? Also, about 40% to 50% of the fine-touch nerve endings are on the part that's cut off.
To say "there's little change to the sensitivity of the penis by cutting off the foreskin" is like saying "there's little change in the sensitivity of the hand by removing the index and middle fingers". The only way that can be right is if you don't consider those fingers to be part of the hand.
I am not supporting circumcision at all by the way, If I have a son I will certainly not do it to him.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:37:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw in your prior comment that you're not in favor of it. But this is apologist crap.
Investigators examined two hypotheses that might support decreased penile sensitivity: whether the exposed glans penis of circumcised men is less sensitive than that of intact men (where keratinization is hypothesized to take place), and if the highly innervated foreskin is more sensitive than other sites of the penis.
Okay, so they're seeing if the foreskin is more sensitive than other parts. That means they already very much acknowledge that it is quite sensitive.
provides preliminary evidence to suggest that the foreskin is not the most sensitive part of the penis.
Okay, so if it if only preliminary evidence, it doesn't seem like it was probably somewhat close in terms of glans vs foreskin sensitivity.
The next thing to consider is that there's about 2 or 3 square inches of glans. There's WAY more foreskin than that. It varies, but an average foreskin length is about 6 inches, and an average circumference is about 5 inches. That's 30 square inches, or around 10 times more of it than there is of the glans. And that 30 square inches gets its sensitivity completely removed.
But why I call it "apologist crap" is this: Let's say that you have a population of people who all had their right pinkie fingers cut off at birth, and another population who hadn't. You can test the dexterity of their hand in multiple ways- how neat is the handwriting, typing speed, ability to interface with a touchscreen, etc. And you won't find a noticeable difference between the two, because someone who grows up without a pinkie learns to do daily tasks without it.
Let's say that you then commission a study to find out if the presence of the right pinkie finger makes a difference to the hand. If you study this using tasks where the pinkie is not an integral part, then you'll find that it isn't important. If instead you look to see what the pinkie does that other fingers can't do, then you'll see that it is important.
Thus, the answer you get is very much dependent on the question you ask, and the question you ask is very dependent on which answer you WANT. Saying that the sensitivity isn't diminished ignores firstly that the sensitivity from the foreskin is valuable in its own right, and that is reduced 100%. It also doesn't study the things that the foreskin is known to do that the other parts of the penis don't do, such as provide friction reduction through mechanical gliding and keeping the glans moist. There are other functions as well.
So please, recognize this study for what it is- a defense of barbarity clad in the finest scientific suit that it can find, but a farce. Instead of going out to disprove its general thesis (circumcision doesn't change the penis functionality) it tries to prove its biases. This is the opposite of science.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:27:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. Never asked why they did it though.
Rpizza ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:46:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats why I didn't have my son cut. That's barbaric.
[deleted] ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 00:45:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The I got grounded....
Because you made her realize that it wasn't her decision to make, and she got angry, because you're not supposed to make her mad at herself.
edit: for any men interested in regaining much of the function that was lost due to circumcision, check out
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:04:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's rough. Also, YES. She should totally teach you when you're 5 or 6 and she's still bathing you. That's part of the job of a parent. They go from wiping your ass to showing you how, and then they get out of the way as soon as they can usually.
It is a shame that she thinks there's shame involved in talking about your penis. It's not like she's a pedophile. Too bad she got programmed to think dicks are taboo.
I just remembered something I haven't thought about in years. A friend of mine has a couple of boys and they aren't circumcised. How do I know?
Because during a visit one of them happily climbed into my lap and decided we needed to have a heart to heart. About our genitals.
This cherub of a child, curly blonde hair, bright green eyes and the cutest smile sits on my lap and announces "Auntie Kitten, I can wash my own penis! My foreskin moves now so I gotta move it back and wash it when I take a bath."
I do not have kids, but I did at the time have a male cousin who WAS circumcised. Still, nothing had prepared me for a little boy making that announcement during lemonade and cookie time. So I managed something along the lines of "You're getting to be a big boy." and "That's very smart, being clean will keep you healthy."
He happily informed me that boys have penises and girls have vulvas. I was previously aware but thanked him for sharing this important bit of wisdom. Then he had to tell me that he had testicles too. I was glad to hear it, those typically are important organs to own as a boy. And then he told me "I'd show you but Mom says I shouldn't show people or ask to see theirs."
And he told me a bit more about his junk, asked me if I had a vulva (yup) and then informed me I was a girl then. (good to know buddy.)
My friend the whole time was refraining from laughing but when he went to play in his room she cracked up and thanked me for reinforcing the "yes clean that, yes boys and girls have different equipment, yes I have that equipment too" lessons.
Kids... They're fun as hell but sometimes you gotta discuss their junk.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:41:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep. if you're going to procreate, yet be afraid of talking about things (like genitals) with your own children, you certainly shouldn't be making permanent decisions about their genitals, much less cutting them off in order to avoid a conversation.
That's like murdering your friend to avoid the embarrassment of telling them that you slept with their partner. It is supremely cowardly.
Gotta admit, after the embarrassment it was almost adorable how utterly shameless he was. His mind did not have a "this is dirty" filter for his junk, he was pleased as punch to tell me all about it.
I might've been a bit embarrassed had he SHOWED me (maybe i'm a little cowardly, but I prefer not to see the genitals of any kid I am not in the process of bathing, bathrooming or dressing) but as it was, it came across as super cute.
KnowKnee ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He must have been 4 or 5, because 2-3 year old boys almost always LOVE flaunting their bipper/pee pee/penis/winky, whatever they call it.
I raised a son, have a teenaged grandson and a 3 year old great grandson. Penis Pride is a thing with toddlers and pre-schoolers. Near as I can tell, it starts when they discover half the people they know didn't come with that uber-nifty thing, then becomes even more interesting when they can start & stop the flow of urine and watch it happening!
It's so purely innocent, like discovering what their nose does or how their ears work. They're very new at the whole being a person thing. Everything is genuinely fascinating.
My little cousin is 4 now, and she is the biggest exhibitionist I have ever met. She likes to do this thing after bathtime where she runs around the house in her hooded princess towel casually flashing the whoooooole room. She does non-nudist exhibitiony stuff too, so I guess I could just say she's performative? but... there it is.
Little kids are weird, man.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:50:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, we have to teach them that their body is inherently naughty.
That is the single worst christian message- and unfortunately THE central one: that there's a part of you that was broken from the moment you were conceived, and you can't fix it. Without believing you're broken, they can't convince you that you need to be fixed, and that you can be fixed for the low low price of 10% right off the top.
Oddly his parents are fairly pious Catholics. Apparently he also informed the priest of his new talent and the man nearly busted something trying not to laugh. Having met their priest, I believe it.
He's an old man who married, had kids, was widowed and felt he should become a priest because he was never going to love any woman the way he loved his wife. So he did. And his daughters and their kids often attend his church and make people do a double take by calling him Grandpa. (I'm told his advice on premarital sex is "You know, Onan's crime was disobedience, not masturbating. Just saying.... not an actual sin....")
He also visited me during my hospitalization. I was borderline atheist at the time due to some shitty religious authorities in my family's churches, but that didn't matter to him. He knew me and knew a mentally ill teenager under hospitalization for the first time probably could use a friendly face, so he brought me some fantasy novels (sword and sorcery, not winkwink FAAAANTASY) a composition book and a package of markers to write with.
It meant a lot at the time. And I can see him now trying not to laugh at that earnest little boy informing him of his foreskin and its cleaning regimen.
Yup, he and his brother can even explain to you the difference between vagina and vulva because their sister was taught it and apparently among small children knowledge passes by osmosis.
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is great. But i gotta say, I finally found the real barbarity in this thread. Lemonade and cookies?! Together?! WTF? That ain't right. Next you'll be telling me about OJ and cake time.
Probably because he was fifteen and yelling at his mom about his dick.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:05:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
relevant username?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a hospital and see tons of patients from 8 to 80 that are being circumcised because their phimosis is so bad that circumcision is the best treatment.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting.
If you're 80 and you have bad phimosis, you've probably lived your entire life with it. Why the fuck would a doctor perform that surgery? Why would the patient request it?
In Europe, circumcision is almost never performed for medical reasons because they've spent the time and found better ways to make that part of the body function than to simply cut it off. There's manual stretching and steroid creams that make it work like normal.
Also, are you intending to say that because some tiny percentage of a percentage of people come in and are treated with an amputative procedure, that we should just perform that on everybody at birth to save them the trouble of a much less than 1% chance of it being beneficial later?
Should we cut out the breast buds from baby girls so that they can't develop breast cancer? Breast cancer strikes almost 1 in 6 women, it is a real killer, you know! Doing this could bring that number from 1 in 6 to less than 1 in 100. Yay! End breast cancer! Cut off ALL the boobies!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I also live in a heavily Hispanic dominated area, and many of the people of Hispanic heritage are Mexican immigrants or children of immigrants. The phimosis problems that span a lifetime may stem from the Mexican culture where it's heavily taboo. Many Mexican women don't even talk to their husbands about their menstrual cycles. It's possible that many Mexican men would never bring up the subject because they didn't know it wasn't normal.
I'm definitely not trying to start a debate, I'm just telling you that circumcisions are one of the most common urology procedures I see. I'm a female, so it's not really something I feel like I get an opinion on.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a totally reasonable thing to have an opinion on. And it is ready to have an informed opinion. If a person consents to having his penis cut, then he consented, whether the medical advice was sound or not.
If he didn't consent (or can't consent due to being an infant) then I liken it to performing the same act on a captured enemy soldier- it would be considered a war crime.
Why hasn't anyone given you gold?! you are missing part of your penis!!
Rpizza ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:46:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats why I didn't have my son cut. That's barbaric.
TR3Y_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 16 1/2(male) and I still don't know what it is...
stygger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to fix some misstakes of our parents, but as long as you don't brainwash or mutilate your children for religious reasons you're giving them a better start in life!
Walugii ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:29:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't look like much of a scar if they did a half decent job. And you'd probably never think of it as one if it was like that for as long as you can remember
Reasonable about what? All I said was that as long as they didn't use a rusty spork, the scar doesn't necessarily look like something that would be a clue something was removed (it's not particularly noticeable if you've never not had it, and looks nothing like other scars). I made no comments about whether or not circumcision that should be done or should be banned. But I will say this - if it is going to be done, I'd at least hope it's going to be done well.
If it wasn't for porn I don't know for sure I would know what a circumcision is. It's not like men had a say in the matter or its brought up in conversation.
Tridian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:50:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, when most people get circumcised they aren't really in a position to have the doctor explain the procedure to them, and then their parents have no reason to mention it to them again.
aveidel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:17:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have also had to do this with several men (and women).
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:48:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In his defense, guys don't see a lot of dicks, the same ways most girls don't see a lot of snatch. And there's not much discussion. I'm in my 30's and I don't think I saw an intact penis until I was in my late 20's watching porn on the interwebz. And nobody in America talks about it.
So if nobody talks about it and there's no counterexamples available, how are you going to find out that you've been mutilated?
NDaveT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember when I learned about, but I figure like a lot of things I came across a word I didn't know while reading and either asked my parents what it meant or looked it up in a dictionary.
Trexy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:00:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the "we circumcised so he won't be made fun in the locker room" is bullshit?
Boys don't typically shower at school anymore, so yeah, not relevant anymore. 2. As of a couple of years ago the infant US circumcision rate was only about 52%. About half of kids born in the US today will be cut and half will not.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it makes me think about the Dr. Suess story about the Sneeches.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
let's put it this way, if you were, for some reason, going to move to Saudi Arabia and take you hypothetical daughter with you, would you have her clit and hood cut off so that she would look like the other girls?
Of course it is bullshit. If a teenage boy has a problem with NOT having had part of his dick cut off, he can probably find someone to do something about that. In South Africa, there's a coming of age ceremony where groups of boys go through some ordeal, which ends with their foreskin being removed. They can choose not to. Some make that choice, and are made fun of for it.
But those boys consented (through great peer pressure, but that's the how most of life goes anyway).
Also, there was very little if any parading around naked in the locker rooms I was in, which include junior high boys' lockers for gym class and for football and wrestling, high school boys' locker rooms for football and wrestling, and an NCAA division 1 Track and Field locker room for 4 years.
There's a reason young men bitch about old men walking about the locker room with their junk hanging out, and it isn't because the old men's junk is particularly ugly. It is because the younger men keep their towel on.
Zoronii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, if I weren't on the internet as often as I am, I wouldn't know, either. I had to explain circumcision to my girlfriend who was 19 at the time.
carbdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
trigger warning for Americans
anonomie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I could see easily slipping through the cracks...I mean, it's not really an important part of sex ed and unless he was frequently exposed to other penises how would he know? It's not like parents tell their children, "oh by the way, your dick was cut when you were a baby!"
Treczoks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, usually this circumcision is made at an age where they cannot remember it, and those people have usually no way to compare their condition to "normal".
Did he all of a sudden get upset and act like he was missing something super important in life?
Drives me up the wall how some males will act like they had a legacy waiting for them from their family members of $10mil+ and it was taking away when they react about being circumsised. Like calm down. I am sure you don't have a micropenis, so stfu.
Some people have very strong feelings about permanently altering someone else's body without their consent. There's a reason we aren't allowed to tattoo young children, but somehow cutting pieces of the dicks off is OK.
It's more about bodily autonomy than anything else for most people. Sure, circumcision isn't probably all that life-changing for most men in Western cultures (I can't really speak for them because I have female anatomy), but I would feel pretty violated if my parents elected to have my genitals painfully and permanently altered when I'd be incapable of giving consent.
Also, there's a double standard when FGM (female genital mutilation) is compared to male circumcision. The former is universally seen as barbaric and dangerous with no medical benefit by anyone outside of practicing cultures, but the latter is far more socially acceptable. I personally think both are wrong and an absolutely unnecessary violation of the child's bodily autonomy. I think that's why a lot of circumcised men react negatively upon discovering what happened.
[deleted] ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 02:57:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You need to make sure you keep the hearing aids on your child while they are passing through the critical period for language development."
I have this conversation weekly. WEEKLY.
RDF50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weakly?
nemo_sum ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I can't hear you, I have EARS OF CORN!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a dentist, I examined a 1 year old child that had cavities on all 4 of his teeth. (He's only had teeth for a grand total of 6 months). I ask mom what in the diet could be the cause and she replies that she "just can't keep him away from that Coca-cola, if he sees a can or a bottle or the fountain he'll just scream till I give it to him." Also, she wasn't brushing his teeth.
So, I had tell mom that 1 year olds shouldn't be drinking soda and that parents are supposed to brush their children's teeth.
Med school was full of these. Especially from rotation in pediatric ER.
A mother brought her 16 y/o daughter to the ER because the calluses on her feet were getting annoying. My attending was seething as she tried to explain to the mom that the little girl dying of asthma exacerbation was an emergency. Asking for a podiatry consult was not.
Another mom brought her infant in to the ER for constipation. The child had a massive bowel movement while in the waiting room. Mom figured since she was here, may as well get a checkup for the baby anyway. Then I get to present the patient during rounds later. Imagine how much fun it is to explain to the senior resident that your emergency constipation patient hasn't had a BM in the last hour.
In pediatric clinicals, we had to threaten to call child protective services on a young hipster couple that were trying to enforce their own mega-vegan diet on their toddler. The poor kid had completely fallen off the growth chart, and was missing every developmental milestone. Apparently, they'd had the kid on 100% soy diet since the day he was born, viewing even breastmilk as inhumane.
"Vegans" like this give the rest of us a bad name. Jesus christ people, just because you're vegan doesn't mean that you get to skip out on taking in actual nutrients. Fuck me. If you want to raise your kid vegan go to a nutritionist and get a meal plan or something. Fuck.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! I don't see how breast milk would not be vegan either - unless you steal it from another woman, I guess?
I hate when these stories get into the news and they just call it a "vegan diet" with no specifics, when what it really is is an insane diet that happens to be vegan.
There's an argument to be made for letting that last kid die.
JimmyRat ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 06:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hospice nurse here:
"No, Sir, it is not better for your liver transplant to drink Jack Daniels than it is to drink Budweiser."
"Yes, Sir, I understand that there is less liquid involved in drinking Jack Daniels, but the alcohol content is metabolized by your liver regardless of the volume."
"Yes, I am sure"
"Yes, they did teach us that in nursing school."
"Yes, it was in a real college."
"No, I'm quite sure that is not what the doctor in the hallway at the transplant place meant."
"Well, Sir, I'm sorry you don't believe me, but the Jack Daniels is why you've now destroyed two livers."
"No, I don't think they'll do a second transplant."
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe a person who destroys their organs through substance abuse is even eligible for a transplant to begin with.
JimmyRat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I try to be a compassionate person and certainly never allow negative feelings show at work, But I 100% agree with you.
This particular patient was in his early 60s and destroyed his original liver through long-term alcoholism. Then, after getting a transplant, he sat around drinking a case of Budweiser a day and chewing Tylenol like it was going out of style.
I think everybody knows that Tylenol is bad for your liver. I think everybody knows that alcohol is bad for your liver. I think everyone knows that Tylenol and alcohol together is especially bad for your liver. And I know that anybody who's received a liver transplant definitely would've been told all that information.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately a lot of people don't know about Tylenol. I teach it to my students whenever I get a chance, but other than a small print warning in the label they don't think much about it much less understand why.
JimmyRat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had a liver transplant, but I find it very hard to believe a person wouldn't be told.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course if they've had a liver transplant. I'm talking about the general population.
JimmyRat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a woman come in with her family for a gangrenous toe. It was dry gangrene, and the toe was basically mummified (she lost circulation to that toe). It was cold, black and hard, and it basically looked like a black twig. I told her that the toe was lost, and we probably should amputate to prevent the chance of an infection down the road. She insisted that the toe looked that way because of the gentian violet (a purple antiseptic, common in South America), and that the toe would heal. Needless to say, it snapped off as she put on her sock.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me: "Sir, seeing as I am the end of the line type doctor for kids with Autism, you should know enough about it by now since your son has had 18 months worth of professional medical evaluation to reach said diagnosis. I can't perform my job unless the diagnosis is confirmed. Are you meaning to tell me, that for 18 months, not one of the 8 doctors you have seen has explained autism to you?"
Idiot dad: "so, it's like an infection? I'll get that prescription and be on my way."
If I was one of the first people consulted on his son's case then I would understand his lack of knowledge on autism, but this dude was a single dad and had been at every single appointment with his kid for a year and a freakin' half before it was confirmed he is autistic! Blew my fucking mind. Working with him for the next 2 years was worse than working with his son who was high dependancy. I think even he knew his dad was a moron.
Corey307 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:24:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$5 says there was a huge amount of denial as well, might be causing more problems than the stupidity.
Dealing with parent denial or guilt is about 80% of my job. This guy was grade A dumb dumb. He undid all the work I did with his sweet son with his idiocy. I hope he is thriving wherever he is now... poor kid had no chance.
Corey307 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:52:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate people. They'd rather feel better than actually do something to help their children.
And ใใใใใใใซใใใใใใใใใใใใใกใคใฆใจใใชใซใฌใญใฎใใฏใฒใตใธใปใใพใฟใใใใใใใใใใใใใใใใใand ใ. But those are more creative.
kjata ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are those Welsh letters, or are they just consonant clusters that produce sounds only tangentially related to those produced by the separate consonants? I honestly don't know, but I assume the latter. Then again, W exists and that evolved from a literal double U, so I don't really know what to think.
There's a joke in here somewhere. Mario consulting a Luigi board to find out where the princess is... I don't know. It's going to keep popping up into my thoughts for the next week until I laugh at it even briefly.
True, but populations and ethnicities are. Sickle cell anemia has a high incidence in populations originating in sub-Saharan Africa, the Arabian peninsula, and parts of India
One of my friends was a stripper at the time of the big Ebola scare. One of her fellow dancers was really afraid that she might catch Ebola because she gave a lap dance to a British man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
During that last Ebola outbreak We actually had to have signs printed up for our back room that said nobody in our state was infected with Ebola and that it was quarantined, and that we would not contract Ebola at work.
People were actually going to HR and telling them they can't come into work because they were afraid if they left their house they would get Ebola. Couple people actually freaked out when they saw someone coughing.
AHAHAHA raid on a maggot-filled wound actually makes sense if you have no medical knowledge - it kill bugs right?!?!
LSUDoc ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really sad. Family with a older mom that is chair bound with bad lower extremity wounds. maggots set in. They sprayed raid on her legs foe a few days. Finally brought her in. She died. Just sad family was confused as they thought they where helping. Why I glossed over.
Rebelo86 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:53:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's pool shock?
Arcsis ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I understand it, they're high concentration chlorine tablets for pools. My dad used them when the pool was green in the spring to clear up the algae.
Rebelo86 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ARE YOU SERIOUS?! What on earth could they be thinking?!
Edit: obviously they weren't. Stupid question.
LSUDoc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually calcium hypochlorite. Essentially powdered bleach.
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's 2 kinds of chlorine for pools: "normal" chlorine and "shock".
"Normal" chlorine is either liquid or tablet sodium hypochlorite that contains a UV stabilizer to prevent sunlight from breaking it down too quickly. It raises the Cl level in the water enough to prevent bacteria and algae from growing.
Shock is hyper concentrated and is designed to drastically raise the Cl levels in the water (usually to treat an algae bloom, but can be used every few weeks to kill off algae that start becoming resistant to normal chlorine treatment). Because it raises the Cl levels so much in so short a period of time it is made without the UV stabilizers present in "normal" chlorine, so that it breaks down after a day or so.
DeskRef ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:46:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking the same. Maybe it's pool chalk, that blue powder used for pool cues?
LSUDoc ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:35:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
without reading this article i am going to assume it is the delivery device or how it is compounded not the insulin per se. It is like my pt's are allergic to steroids. No you are not, you are allergic to part of something else. Now, I am sure in the history of medicine there is the 0.000000000000001% that may have this. Probably like people that turn carbs into Etoh. But I am sorry. There are not >50 of these people living in the city I do with some rare disease.
The frustration in my posting, is that they feel insulin increases their blood glucose. God and before you go and google something else, I am aware of the somogyi effect. This is not this. These are people that just don't want to be compliant. Yes, we work with them. Yes we talk and talk and talk to them. I sit down I try to educate. But there are some people who will just never learn and or care. It is a multifaceted problem that makes us sad and frustrated at the same time. All you can do is joke with your partners as catharsis before you try again to sit and talk to people because you really do care.
I'm just a type 1 diabetic that got hives with Apidra but do great with Novolog. That's all I am saying.
Callyopi ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:58:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These people aren't saying they have an allergic reaction to the insulin. They don't break out in hives or get anaphylaxis. They say they can't take the insulin because it raises their blood sugar instead of lowering it. They are just calling it an allergy because they are idiots.
right, I get that, but in my case I also did not respond well to it, and my glucose went up dramatically as well.
LSUDoc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:55:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, not here to disagree. We are on the same page as you are not telling me that McDonalds better for you than Launts and/or Novolog. I could have elaborated better I guess.
ccatlr ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:35:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm going to trust any doc about diabetes, it's going to be one who was trained in New Orleans (LSU med is out of NOLA). Our diabetes rates were (probably still are) horrendous. Hey /u/LSUdoc, did you ever work at Charity?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so interesting (I know it's not fun being a medical mystery).
Have they tried to target it from the allergy side with medications like xolair that bind to free IgE? Brigham and young women's hospital has a mast cell specialist that may be about to help.
I'm sorry you have to juggle all of this. Best of luck to you.
My wife is a physician and just shared this story with me. A new patient of hers said he took about 9-10 different medications. At the beginning of each week, he would just throw seven of each pill into a bowl, and would then grab a random handful each morning when walking out the door. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
My mom is a nurse so I asked her to weigh in. She said the number of people who deny having a medical issue, because they're on medication, is insane.
Nurse: Ok so you have [medical issue A] and you've been taking [medication A]?
Patient: I do take [medication A] but I don't have [medical issue A].
Nurse: You don't? It says here on our chart that you do. You're definitely taking [medication A] though, right?
Patient: No, I don't have that. I just have to keep taking [medication A] and I'll be fine.
Nurse: Ok, so you have [medical issue A] which is being managed by [medication A].
Patient: No, that's incorrect. I just have to keep taking [medication A] and my [medical issue A] will be fine.
I guess this is a big one when it comes to people with high blood-pressure or diabetes.
A more specific one would be a diabetic woman came in with blood sugar "off the charts," had to be rushed to the ER, the whole shebang. Turns out she was a Diabetic Educator who helped people with diabetes learn about the disease, check blood sugar levels, etc.
Rikolas ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:49:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad kind of fits into this category. He has Parkinson's, but doesn't believe he does. He takes medication for it, the doctors have prescribed it to him. I have conversations with him along the lines of "Yes but you have Parkinson's dad" "Well I don't think I do" "Yes but the doctor prescribed you Parkinson's medication, which you are taking, correct?" "Yes I am, but I don't think I have it..."
This goes round and round in circles... To be fair to him though, he barely takes the medication, so maybe that's why as he doesn't believe he needs to?
I have the different view of this. I'm 23 years old and I've had high blood pressure since I was 19 (140/115 was my resting lol). I've had quite a few doctors not believe that I have high blood pressure because my resting is now 120/93 or something like that. Yeah, my blood pressure is good because I'm on medication and try to work out.
I'm not a doctor, but I bring my puppy to work with me and am in the process of training her to do tricks etc. One day a work colleague comes up to me amazed and says;
'but how does it know what to do?
'Because I'm training her with treats so she remembers that it's a fun thing to do when I say the command word'
The work colleague looks utterly confused and then says,
'so ... so do dogs have brains? Like us?'
Silence followed.
'But it's so weird, how can they have brains? Do all animals have brains?'
Stunned silence.
This is one of many mental things this person has said since I've worked there.
Grogeba ยท 615 points ยท Posted at 22:40:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Son of a physician here. Was told an interesting one a while back.
Basically, there were some patients who would have rings put around the top of the stomach in an attempt to make it so they couldn't eat as much food (they'd get sick if they had more than could pass through the ring, if I recall correctly). The idea was that this would help in reducing weight in patients who drastically needed it down so as to help with their health issues.
Well, some of them would learn that if you ate only a little over what the ring would allow at a time, you'd eventually be able to eat ridiculously large servings again. This was because the ring would stretch out over time.
You can imagine what the conversation between doctor and patient was like when the doctor found out what the patient had been doing.
I know someone who had weight loss surgery and initially lost 5 stone through it.
A few months later they were telling me about the whole pizza, chips (or fries if you're not in the UK), ice cream and full bottle of wine they had had the night before.
I was quite surprised and mentioned that I thought they were supposed to be eating small amounts of proper food, not junk food since the operation.
Her response was "The band will make me sick if I eat too much, so I don't need to worry about it anymore."
Unsurprisingly they have regained all of the weight they lost. :(
This story makes no sense... She ate a whole shit load of food, then said "if I eat a shit load of food, it makes me sick so I don't have to worry about it anymore"... Huh?
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mrcatboy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One lady who had bariatric surgery died because she'd stuffed her fat gob to the point that her esophagus had stretched to become a sort of accessory stomach, and she'd filled her esophagus up to the point that she choked to death when the column of masticated food reached her larynx.
One of the reasons this is happening, is people who handle stress or whatever by eating, either keep doing it or find another unhealthy vice to help them cope with stress. You can google people talking about it. This is probably the reason people yoyo with their diet and weight.
They need counseling and to find a different way to relieve stress.
I'm trying to find a healthier way to relieve stress and its hard. The best way I have found so far is to take long drives in the country. I'd rather have a more productive way but until I find one....
jinkside ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:39:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gastric bypass and a lap band are not even kind of the same thing.
That's actually the wrong information for gastric weight loss patients water,or any type of fluid,will force food through our pouches quicker, meaning we can eat more. It's recommended that we don't drink 30 minutes before or after eating a meal.
I think she managed to eventually stretch past what the ring would allow, but assumed that she still wasn't eating "that much" because it hadn't made her feel sick. She was eating a shit ton of food, but because that was her habit she didn't perceive it as being that much food.
Yup, that's her answer to it. She had the operation, and has slowly trained her ring thingy to allow her to eat more and more, by slowly working up to eating as she did before the op. She genuinely believes that if she eats too much, or the wrong type of food, the ring will magically make her sick so she doesn't need to watch what she eats any more. It's sad.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grogeba ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:55:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mom, actually. =D
And yeah, sorry to hear that your aunt had to go through that. From what I've been told, it's something most people wouldn't need if they simply had better control of their caloric intake.
Dammit, unconscious sexism got me. Thanks for your concern for my aunt- she ended up having the band removed and getting gastric bypass instead, which seems to be working better since she can't cheat it.
Grogeba ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lulz, no worries. Probably would've made a similar assumption myself.
These surgeries always seem a little oddball to me, but I do believe that there are those who can benefit from them, depending. Happy to hear she's doing better. :)
Hi there, person with a Lapband here. (Since 2006)
Basically I think of it as having two stomach's. Top and bottom. When I eat, I have to chew thoroughly or the food can't pass through the band. Initially, it will stay in the top part for a bit and hit the "full" signal sooner. If I don't chew well enough or something doesn't sit right, I WILL get sick.
From my experience, most people that have had the band will push the did limits too much. I think it's because you never really learned how to control the eating impulses and frankly most of the time you aren't even eating 1200 calories a day. Most people I know who had the band have had it removed at this point. Most have had complications of some sort. I haven't really had any aside from my first pregnancy stretching the top part of my stomach.
The woman you were speaking of either stretched her pouch, or didn't continue maintenance on keeping the band tight. Mine isn't functioning 100% because of that pregnancy (long story, but short form is that my belly never popped out so everything on the inside got crushed), but it is functioning enough to at least help me be able to maintain a weight, and when I work hard like normal people I will slowly lose again. It still keeps it under control.
Eventually I plan on having it removed and possibly having the sleeve done, but that'll be more for a preventive measure. It seems far too many people are having complications with it, some very serious and frankly I'd rather just be done with it at some point. I'm not even sure most drs are doing the surgery anymore. I think the last thing I read was something of a 76% failure rate. ๐
How does the lapband handle liquid? Does it go right through or can you get full from drinking a lot?
I doubt I'll ever get one (I don't have health issues caused by my weight, my doctor vetoed any weight loss surgery on those grounds) but I've always been kinda curious because when I'm anxious I drink glasses of water until it passes and wondered what a lap band would do in that case.
If you drink too fast it'll come up on you, but otherwise it'll go down. But some kinds of drinks can mess you up. Sugary drinks can sludge up, and sodas with the carbonation can feel like tiny knives.
kc-fan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had the sleeve done a couple of years ago. My weight loss is slower than the bypass, but it feels more natural now. I can tell when I eat 1 bite too much because I feel a little nauseous for a bit.
Overall, having the sleeve has been a positive for me. I was able to get off my diabetes meds and get some control over my weight. It wasn't a magic surgery that made the weight disappear, but it did give me a jump start that made it easier for me to get back in control of my weight.
NoFapMat ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:51:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just moderate how much you eat, or get on a keto diet.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lap bands! Ugh, my friend almost died from hers after it slipped and cut off too much of her stomach.
I had a lap band for 5 years, and almost died from it because it twisted and I had very little room for anything to go down. I couldn't drink and eat at the same sitting, because it would basically not fit and I would immediately regurgitate. Even since having it removed 2 years ago, I have suffered severe anemia due to malnutrition, and I have been hospitalized 3 times for emergency transfusions because my body simply will not absorb iron anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry to hear you've continued to suffer, even after removing it. Insanely, although my friend was quite literally dying, her insurance refused to cover its removal. She had to go to Tijuana for the removal. She said it was good healthcare. Anyway, the doctor said she was two weeks from death when she came in for the removal. Fortunately, she's been doing very since.
I knew someone who got lap band surgery. Immediately after the surgery she was eating incorrect foods and in larger amounts than she should. She didn't care that it hurt like a bitch to eat more than she was supposed to. Her eating was so disordered she was compelled to overeat before she had even healed from surgery. No surprise that even though she initially lost weight she gained it all back and then some. I don't know if her doctor didn't see the need for her to go to therapy, if she went and lied in order to get the surgery, or what.
That's run of the mill non compliance of a bariatric patient. Whether it's a gastric band or otherwise ... not that uncommon.
myBisL2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:04:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is shockingly common. I know a number of people who had weight loss surgery, including stomach stapling and all that, who gained it all back by slowly stretching out there stomachs again. The stomach is not a plastic box, it does stretch to accommodate the food.
It's food addiction, which is very much like any other substance addiction, except you obviously need some food to live. To be honest, it pisses me off when people make fun of the weight loss surgery/gastric lot (which I don't think you're doing, by the way.) For many, the weight has gotten to a point that it's interfering in having a normal life.
If someone is willing to get surgery to stop stuffing their gullet, that is very concerning-even if our society has normalized it. Wouldn't you think it was strange if smokers started getting their hands sewn together to stop them from smoking cigarettes?
myBisL2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't make any judgments on it but I always think your chance of long term success is significantly lower if you think it will solve all your problems without any work to change your habits.
I know people who had surgery and it was just an aid to help them make life changes and they were successful, and good for them for committing to changing their habits. But yeah, when you really think about it the entire concept of weight loss surgery is kind of fucked up.
As someone really trying to get accepted for gastric surgery this shit pisses me off so much...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, my sister had someone in her class who had had four lap band surgeries. The woman kept going on about how "they never work" but would scoff down so much food during breaks. What a waste of the surgeon's and the doctor's time.
That's the lap band operation and one of the reasons why it isn't a very good choice for Bariatric surgery.
UberUSB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who did this. We stopped eating with him, mostly because he'd take ages eating. A 20 minutes meal turned to almost 2 hours, till he was able to stuff it monstrously again.
And he had a heart attack and is dead. No wonder why.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There really is no substitute for willpower, no matter what they tell you.
This is called a lap band. And it's a terrible idea all around. It's basically forced anorexia and the health ramifications even when people don't do the horrible idiocy you described are just so not worth it.
Grogeba ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:00:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you choose to use a device that MAKES you not eat just to lose weight, that's anorexia. Just because you aren't not eating simply with willpower doesn't mean it's not anorexia.
You're making it seem like the procedure sews your mouth shut so you literally cannot eat.
It's designed to make you feel full faster. Some people's stomachs are stretched out so big that they aren't satisfied unless they eat huge portions. So, if someone is used to eating 3 burgers, fries, nuggets and a large coke in one sitting, they'll now feel that 1 burger, fries and a medium coke is enough. If they want to continue to eat past that point, they can- but they'll feel like crap trying to stuff more food in themselves.
Sure! Lapbands are a surgical procedure. Anorexia nervosa is a mental illness that presents by primarily restricted caloric intake, urges for control, & a BMI under 18 (underweight). Typically, mental illnesses are not surgically implanted.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Grogeba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..........wut.
mdp300 ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 00:57:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dentist here. I have a couple.
One lady came in with a rubber band stuck between her back teeth. She had a piece of food or something that she couldn't get out with floss, so she thought a rubber band would work better.
Another time, a kid came in with a toothache. Everything seemed ok, couldn't find any source of pain. I ask if anything hot or cold makes it hurt, and he said "it hurts a little if I rinse out with Coke."
I turned to his dad and said NEVER DO THAT EVER AGAIN! it's the only time I actually shouted at someone. His dad also asked for vicodin for his son. Who was 4 years old. I told him no. He's 4. Give him advil. I'm pretty sure he wanted the pain meds for himself.
rigred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"it hurts a little if I rinse out with Coke."
And here I was thinking it was Coca Cola....
mdp300 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:18:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No actually it was coca cola.
Which will literally dissolve your teeth if you soak your mouth with it all day.
glim10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... that's what I was assuming... Please tell me he didn't wash a 4 year olds mouth with drugs..
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:42 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't Mike Myers do a similar bit on SNL?
"We're British. We brush our teeth with sugar!"
bobyd ยท 381 points ยท Posted at 21:41:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend nurse told me that an old man was prescribed suppositories for something he had. Couple of days later he came back feeling worse and said the tablets were not doing anything, yep, he was eating them. He had to be explained that suppositories are PR.
This is why labels need to spell it out nice and clear.
Gave an old guy antibiotics for his dog's ear infection a few years back. He rang us a week later to ask what to do when you couldn't fit any more tablets down the ear...
Fuck yeah, suppositories should have labels with big block letters saying "UNWRAP AND SHOVE UP ASS TWICE DAILY"
No but seriously, better labeling would go a long way in medicine.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doggo no :( Why are people so fucking stupid?
Sam-Gunn ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:20:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couple of days later he came back feeling worse and said the tablets were not doing anything, yep, he was eating them.
I can just imagine the instructions. "Ok, you have TWO holes for your digestive tract. Put them into the one without teeth... Not your nose, I mean your asshole!"
Gonzobot ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:09:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pr?
neonbeef ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:22:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Per rectum
bobyd ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:41:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
per rectum, you are supposed to put suppositories up your bum
alficles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So far, so good. The homeless guy is mad, though, so what's next?
Is not being safe meant as in you can't know if your partner is doing this with others, or as in there are risks people don't realize exist that aren't limited to diseases?
RJB5584 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both, actually.
If you're reusing syringes, it increases your risk of abscesses--which, by the way, can be fatal if left untreated or treated improperly. Syringes are meant to be used once, then thrown away. Thrown away, by the way, in a hard plastic container (ie, sharps, bleach bottle, hell--even a soda bottle), not a soda can or just breaking the tip off.
Interesting, I never even knew abscesses existed until now, and what they were until my subsequent googling and reading, haha.
It seems like there's always more to something than what movies and shows will show you! (Because quite frankly, it's not like I'm learning this sort of thing from school.)
RJB5584 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad it proved useful! Stay sharp! ๐
trwwyco ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:53:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to reuse her insulin syringes. (She never shared them, she just reused the same one for a week or so)
I hated it, I was convinced she would end up with infections but she managed to avoid them. And six months was all she was on insulin, she got her diabetes back under control after that.
RJB5584 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Increasing the risk of abscesses != will get abscesses
Some people have stronger immune systems than others, and abscesses can occur for any number of reasons.
Well... she's dead now. But yeah, she got into pretty good health until the sneaky colon cancer. Clean colonoscopy, then 5 months later stage 4.
She died on the table having the tumor removed. Fuck cancer.
I got abscesses in my jaw sometimes, although knock on wood I haven't had one since I got a root canal done on my worst tooth. I swear those were the worst pain I ever endured. Taught me what the 10 on the scale was, and made me realize why some people commit suicide over chronic pain. I considered it until someone turned me on to a low income dental clinic.
RJB5584 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:13:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had someone come to our clinic who said "I've been shot, stabbed, blown up, set on fire, and electrocuted. Nothing compares to an abscess."
I can believe it. I'd been stabbed and broken bones and it didn't compare to my jaw abscesses.
And the fucked up thing was, I got turned away from the UC twice because I was "obviously drug seeking" and finally a doctor gave me like six narcotic pills and some antibiotics.
I took two pills, and by then the antibiotics had kicked in enough that I could just have ibuprofen and it was enough. Antibiotics are an amazing discovery, and I never quite appreciated them to the extent they deserve until that experience.
eta: I went in asking for them to do something for me and got treated like shit. I didn't go asking for the pain pills, I wanted something that would fix it, not just mask it. Shocked I have a liver tbh, stepmom pretty much force fed me alcohol until I got the decent doctor because it actually gave some relief and when drunk all I could do was cry, I couldn't try harming myself.
Took me to age 27 to realize that alcohol has pain relieving properties though. Is that a "I can't believe an adult doesn't know this?" fact?
I probably only downvote someone six times a year or so but this is so patently stupid you earned the first one of 2017. Mostly because you tried to call upon the powers of microbiology to reinforce your doctrine of Spontaneous Generation, which hasn't been a thing since the microscope and possibly before.
KyExodus ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 03:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spontaneous generation is a myth. But the fact that EBV causing hepatitis renders your point moot. Would hate to see the discount university your degree comes from.
EBV doesn't cause hep c, and neither does reusing old rigs, which is the same thing as spontaneous generation. i admire you for sticking to your guns though, even if it is a blunderbuss.
RJB5584 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise. You can't contract a virus without exposure to the virus.
baropen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:36:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope u/KyExodus is just trolling. But if not, at least you have a good story next time someone asks this question. facepalm
KyExodus ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 02:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
KyExodus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reread it. It says most. I'm not arguing spontaneous infection, yes you have to be exposed to HVC to contract the disease but it doesn't have to come from other people the virus can live outside of the body incapuslated for long peoids of time. It is not necessarily from other people
you're literally arguing spontaneous infection if you're saying it doesn't come from other people.
RJB5584 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That part is true. Unlike HIV, HCV can last a very long time outside the body.
Still, HCV doesn't simply appear. Someone needs to have left contaminated material, and then introduce that to their own blood. That's not the same thing as "giving yourself HCV". That's more like someone's actions leading to an HCV infection.
KyExodus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EBV can also lead to hepatitis. It's fairly common too
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The CDC clearly calls it a CONTAGIOUS virus under the "what is Hep C" section. Meaning it requires transmission.
Not a doctor yet, but I've had to explain to my 33-year-old roommate that she needs to wash her hands with soap every single time after she uses the bathroom. She'd turn on the faucet for about 1 second to "wash". Her wonderful methods have led to a light switch with blood stains on it, after she was changing her pad.
lllola ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:32:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is absolutely horrifyingly disgusting. I hope you have separate bathrooms.
She's kind enough to offer me food she cooks, but I politely decline every time. She's not a great cook. I recently taught her how to avoid your pot from boiling over. Hints: don't put a lid on it if you don't need to. Don't have the temp @ high. Don't mess around on your computer & forget that you have something on the stove.
I had to call her out on not washing her hands after she took out the trash. She just doesn't believe it's necessary to use soap all the time. Thinks it's American culture vs. Chinese culture. NO SWEETIE, IT'S SCIENCE VS. SAVAGERY.
cornicat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:54:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you offered hand sanitiser? Maybe she won't have quite as much trouble grasping the need, plus it's not nearly as much effort as washing your hands.
I haven't, but I have given her a pamphlet from the hospital on the importance of hand washing. Confronted her about it too. Its my belief that despite her degree in chemical engineering, she doesn't understand the basic mechanics of germs i.e. they're everywhere. The period thing was bad, but in second place, we've got her daily morning routine: urinate, flush, no hand washing, puts makeup on face in bathroom. DIRECT FINGERS TOUCHING FACE. AHH the horror.
I did the host mom to an international student thing for a semester. Well, it was a Chinese student, and the experience was exactly as you described - no understanding of germs and a limited understanding of personal hygiene. I am very germ-conscious, so it was a miserable experience. When he left I sanitized everything, and burned sage, for my own mental comfort! (Good kid, but couldn't understand germs).
Edit: NEVER AGAIN!
Did you talk to him about washing his hands?? Or personal hygiene? The stories I have on my roommate are endless. They're a mixture of hilarity & appalling behavior.
I did, many times. But I was, I believe, dealing with an additional issue - I think he is high-functioning autistic. That would fly under the radar in China. He just had a really hard time learning new skills, even when he wanted to.
I mean, it's way better to rinse than to not wash at all. (The death rate of new mothers went waaaay down when the doctors delivering babies started washing their hands with only water vs not washing between patients.) But 1 second isn't even a rinse.
I concur, but no exaggeration, she used to rinse her hands for exactly 1 second & I'm not even sure she fully submerged both hands. The faucet would turn on as fast as it turned off. Since having a talk with her, it's much longer, but I'm convinced she only washes her hands with soap when she knows I'm home.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One patient said she didn't know if she was taking the birth control pills right. She would take one in a day for her, then the next day her boyfriend would take one, then the next day she would take one, and so on..
Better teach her how to take them properly. God forbid those two reproduce.
TheFett ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:15:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see this a lot in nursing:
Patient is overeating--> "Please stop overeating!" --> No.
Patient is now obese--> "Stop overeating, lose weight!"--> No.
Patient now has Type II Diabetes--> "Follow a diabetic diet!"--> No.
Patient now requires painful saphenous vein bypass surgery--> "Stop smoking and eating sugar!"--> No.
Patient now has End Stage Renal Disease and requires dialysis 3x a week.--> (If she wants to kill herself, let her)--> Patient blames nursing staff for incompetence.
kddem ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:47:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an EMT in the ER, had a patient who's mom dropped him off while he was overdosed on heroin. He detoxed and was fine and ready to be sent home but his mom couldn't come get him and he didn't have any money to get a cab home. So his mom told him to tell the ER staff that he was suicidal and that we would have to let him stay the night and then he could go to an inpatient rehab in the morning. Cliff hanger is if you are detoxed and sober and say you're suicidal we have to keep you on a mandatory 3 day hold
When i was in Ob/Gyn training one of our attendings told this story: new patient to his practice came in complaining of a vaginal discharge. She wouldn't tell the admitting nurse any other details. When the doc performed the exam he found that her labia were sewn closed with black thread. When he removed the thread to perform an internal exam he found a shredded dishcloth. The patient refused to answer any questions.
[deleted] ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 23:26:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacy here - we have to ask very specific questions to patients' parents about how they are storing the meds. One time a family told us they keep the liquid amoxicillin in the freezer and then every time it is needed, they microwave it. Liquid Amoxicillin should just be stored in the fridge without the need to reheat. I always wonder if they saw the Celsius on the bottle and thought 'oh that's fucking cold better make it into ice cubes!'
If I could make amoxicillian popsicles, I might get my kiddo to take the medication. I think they're on to something here!
divajedi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bubblegum flavor doesn't work?? I loved that shit when I was a kid, especially because I wasn't allowed to chew gum. When I got strep throat as an adult I asked my primary if it was a viable option, she laughed and told me I would have to go through multiple bottles over the course of treatment to get the amounts I needed.
hubife13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol wow a whole pharmacy!
pmabz ยท 1187 points ยท Posted at 20:02:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is a doctor. Says that gynocologists, when interviewing a couple who can't get pregnant, start off by checking they are using the right hole.
Often they're going for the belly button.
Can any gynos confirm?
yosol ยท 713 points ยท Posted at 20:32:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, that's why I love gynos. They have the best stories. As a GP who has a lot of Gynecology friends/colleagues, those stories tend to be true the further away you are from civilization/libraries/internet access.
darktask ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:13:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but a Navy Corpsman I'm friends with had to give an Afghan soldier the birds and the bees talk after we found out that he couldn't get his wife pregnant after a year of trying. Poor dude was the laughing stock of his family.
Turns out the reason was because he kept putting it up her ass. When told about vaginal intercourse, his reaction was along the lines of "But that thing BLEEDS!"
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 00:05:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 02:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit.
Contraceptive pills would dissolve inside the vagina. In fact, for women who have trouble swallowing pills, or when you need to take a birth control pill, but are sick and vomiting, they can be stuck inside the vagina near the cervix.
So in 2004 I'm a Corporal and since I enlisted later in life, and had deployed a couple times with my Marines, and I'm female so they'll talk to me about stuff they don't want their guys to know... I had a fair number of uncertain young men ask me for help with personal stuff.
One day one of the Lances walks in and asks if he can talk about a marriage problem. No worries, let's head outside and discuss.
Turns out he's from rural Mexico originally and his wife has just arrived from even more rural Mexico. They want to have kids but they're concerned about a couple things:
if she's on top, does the sperm fall out?
(no, it swims, don't worry)
if he's on top, does that guarantee a son?
(never thought my education in medieval history would prove useful in helping my Lances - this has an interesting royal backstory that's turned into a surpisingly durable myth but no, position has nothing to do with it, it's your sperm decides for you)
does she need to douche with cola to prevent a pregnancy?
(I try very hard not to clench my legs at the idea of such hideous yeast infections before walking him down to the Corpsman for some condoms and birth control pamphlets)
There were some other really sad ones from Iraq, eg one of the local women and I became friends and she came into our clinic for "burns" . It turned out she had pelvic inflammatory disease and some sadistic arsewad of an old wife had rubbed heated glass shards all over her abdomen to "burn out the disease" - the scarring was ungodly. She was so embarrassed that she got conned that she couldn't face the locals' clinic and was pretty oozy from infection by the time we got her sorted out. :(
darktask ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:55:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG.
I'm not usually one to say this - but thank you for your service, if only for that last lady. You must have been her saviour
That's kind of you to say - it was my work and I was trying to do it well - that's definitely not in the training though, so I hope doing my best to be human worked.
Tell me about it. Poor woman had lived with constant infection too. Wasn't one of his patients. No way he'd have not had a good look to see what was going on. Dude saved my life. 3 times.
Also has a wicked and very dry wit. I guess you'd have to, working with all that dampness and all.
That makes a lot of sense. My partner and I live in a major metropolitan, highly educated area (also not very religious and with sex education that actually addresses penises and vaginas in our schools) and when we went to a doctor for fertility issues they never asked if we knew how to have sex, they just got straight to the testing.
I used to know this chick that told me that she recognized her gynecologist at a party she was attending. She said she went up to him and asked him if he recognized her. Doc apparently said that he did not. She raised her skirt (she liked to go commando) and asked him, "how about now?" I want so much to believe that this is true.
That's a common thing to happen (healthcare providers claiming to not recognize you) due to HIPAA. That's what they teach you. If you recognize one of your patients in public, you can't go say hi and draw attention to the fact that you know them. Seems weird but you have to CYA.
Your friend is pulling your leg. I'm a nurse practitioner and have worked in very underdeveloped areas of the world - people are often ignorant/uneducated not mentally retarded.
Yeah, well I've worked in clinics in the US at universities and many of these college girls don't realize they have two holes downstairs in the front, and that tampons and penises (penii?) only go in one of them. One couple in the Pacific NW had to be referred to a surgeon to fix the damage they did trying to have intercourse through her urethra. These were middle class kids who had graduated high school and had access to the internet. They were fucking retarded, and they were fucking all retarded-like. The sheer number of girls who forgot to remove a tampon and wondered why they smelled like death was...too high. I don't do that kind of work anymore because the stupid was too overwhelming.
kjata ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:00:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(penii?)
"Penises" is indeed correct. You can go with "penes" also, for reasons related to Latin declension, but it's uncommon.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:38:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay to be fair, diagrams on female anatomy down there are pretty useless.
So I knew about the urethra, but always assumed it emptied out like near the bottom the vagina. The diagrams always showed a gaping hole as the urethra, so I just assumed the distance between the two was exaggerated.
The tampon one though, there's no excuse. It even says on the box to replace every x hours or else you'll die of TSS.
I'm not saying that people aren't grossly ignorant. I have seen the same things you've seen. What I am saying is that hole "wrong whole" thing does not happen left and right. Even ignorant thoroughly stupid people can figure out how to fuck. Sex is instinctual. Animals do it without instruction. As much as birth control, personal hygiene, anatomy should be common sense, they are not inherent. There is not an epidemic of idiot couples not using the correct holes.
Edit: sweet Jesus, I typed "hole" and "whole" in wrong place. Leaving it and putting that English degree to good use! Also, I'm a nurse practitioner - I just happen to have English degree. I'm not traveling the world as an English teacher doing sex research.
Sam-Gunn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Oxytocic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sam-Gunn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whoops, gotta read that stuff more carefully.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you decided you were actually speaking latin, then 'penes'. If you are speaking English, then 'penises'.
supapro ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 21:14:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's your answer. Normal people in underdeveloped areas? Probably fine putting 2 and 2 together. Obese people with abnormal anatomy in developed countries with poor sex ed? Suddenly there's a lot more terrain to get lost in.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:56:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I think I'm fucking your boobs..."
"No, honey, that feels like my front two fat rolls."
"No, hang on a moment, your back fat shifted forwards."
"Oh shit, you're right. Grab a fold and just...rotate it back."
I think you'll find the "navel fuckers" population is found at the Venn intersection of "no library/internet access" and "not a farming community" and "strongly religious community"
If you have no internet or library, but you work on a farm then I imagine you have an idea of the mechanics and can extrapolate ...
I can confirm as a urologist that rarely there are reports of people putting penis in the urethra instead of vagina ("sex is painful, doctor"). Didn't quite believe it until I met a couple who unknowingly did this . Her urethra was dilated up, "patulous" and clearly showing signs this had happened. Speechless
I wondered just HOW it was possible. Seems like it would hurt too much. But there's patients in textbooks who clearly managed it. Never really believed it until my patient came in with same thing
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:47:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way back in med school days, I read a paper on fertility issues in the BMJ. They mentioned one of the problems was "umbilical sex." I never got around to clarifying that phrase but it stuck with me ever since.
Can confirm. I had to have this conversation as we were having trouble getting pregnant. I asked what the craziest thing the doctor had heard and she said she never had anything crazy but some people are using lube that has spermicide in it. The other thing she would hear is that couples don't realize a woman can only get pregnant 3-5 days per cycle and the couple would often start off the month strong with sex right after her period and then taper off by mid-cycle when she was actually ovulating, essentially using the rhythm method of birth control. I sure do wish that had been my issue, alas.
Happened to someone I knew at medical school sitting in on fertility clinic, Somali couple were struggling to conceive and it transpired the man was spilling his seed on his wife's belly because 'that's where the baby would grow'
My friend is also a gyno. Best story: a woman used a potato to keep her prolapsing uterus in. Why did she come to the doctor? Because she "had green plants a-growin".
Often is definitely an overstatement. I would assume more often than not it's that it's just difficult for one or both of them to have a child. Pretty rare that an adult doesn't know the difference between an abdomen and genitals.
When my husband and I went to a fertility doctor one of the first questions was if we were having vaginal sex. Seemed weird at the time but I figured they must have to ask everything to confirm.
Yes. A colleague of mine worked at family planning and discussed this exact situation - she was new and failed to ask that question until the sixth session. The couple genuinely thought they had to get semen in the belly button. Once she cleared that up, they had no problem conceiving. Now she asks that question first.
If they are using the wrong hole it seems like it would be more likely that it is the urethra
rennez77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who went through fertility treatment, I have to tell you the docs never asked us that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone who is trying to get pregnant, gynocologists do not ask "are you putting it in the right hole." when you go in saying you ae having trouble conceiving. your friend is fucking with you.
embur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you want to put the baby in the belly, after all.
Erm no, I've been to many gynos about fertility issues and none have asked that question. Wow I'd hate to live in the area where that question is necessary.
Ot a doctor, but I worked customer service at a hospital and had a woman of about 23 come in with her mom for severe stomach pains. She'd tried drinking Pepto but it just didn't help. Mom was waiting in the waiting room when a nurse came out and had this conversation:
Nurse: ma'am I don't mean to offend you but I have to ask this..Is your daughter slow...Like, in the head?
Mom: No! She's real smart. She even went to college an everything.
N: well, we figured out what was wrong with her. She's having a baby.
M: No, she ain't pregnant.
N: ma'am I don't know what to tell you because she's having a baby. Like the baby is coming out...Now. we've tried to explain this to her, but she doesn't believe us. We'd like your help to convince her.
M: you mean, like she's having a baby right now?
N: yes ma'am she is in labor. Right Now.
TLDR: woman was in labor, refused to believe the nurses. She was possibly slow...Like in the head.
jhn107 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had something similar happen when I was a landlord. A woman with mild mental retardation moved in with her boyfriend. Then she began gaining weight and showing all the outward symptoms of pregnancy. No matter how many people told her she was pregnant she didn't believe them. I finally had to call her social worker who took her to the doctor to confirm it. Later that day, she came into my office and told me she was changing social workers because the one she had was an "idiot liar." When she went into labor, I called an ambulance for her. She was going to wait and see her regular doctor but I convinced her it was an emergency. I told the paramedics the situation and asked that they relate it to the doctor. Not sure what she did at the hospital but it was enough to get her institutionalized.
Seicair ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:09:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure what she did at the hospital but it was enough to get her institutionalized.
That went from "geez..." to "What the FUCK" in a hurry.
adalida ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Birth can be really traumatic when you're prepared and excited for it. I can't imagine what it would do to your head if, in your perspective, you got suddenly and violently ill and then randomly shat out a fully-formed, 7-pound person.
Happened to a family friend. She went in for severe abdominal cramps and ended up giving birth. She never knew she was pregnant because she (at about 5"7') never got above 115lbs, and was an avid cocaine and meth user. Kid came out surprisingly healthy, though she looks like she sucked up any abnormality the kid could've had :/
pi123263 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you lost this N while writing.
[deleted] ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 22:00:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she knows what it is, but doesn't know the name for it? Like I know I have a bone in my left pinky finger, but I have no idea what it's medical name is.
When people talk about this it still rarely comes up, but you know there is actually a lot of it internally as well? Kinda of a wishbone shape surrounding the vagina.
Maybe it could be argued that it's under the vulva and surrounds the beginning of the vagina? Seems like it could be a perspective thing? Pictures and descriptions in all these links.
"The glans is connected to the body or shaft of the internal clitoris, which is made up of two corpora cavernosa. When erect, the corpora cavernosa encompass the vagina on either side, as if they were wrapping around it giving it a big hug!"
Admittedly, even if you found the clitoris on your body either through masturbation, sex, or accident, you wouldn't automatically know the name for it. Except for maybe "fun button."
We always just explain things to people who don't get them when we play. Mom disapproved of road head because it's not safe, but loudly proclaimed "I like tentacle porn" when we questioned her choice of winner (because everyone else thought another answer was better), but she was amused by the way it sounded even after we explained what it was. We do have a rule that you can ask for someone else to say the words for you if you're uncomfortable because mom likes using cards she refuses to say. Dad has no problem saying any card and only gets explanations afterwards, which sometimes causes him to blush and say "..oh" and launch into what he assumed it must mean.
You need to school your brother, or link him to something that will school him. Then tell him to make sure he's touching it in a way she enjoys, and to sometime ask her if she "likes it when he touches her clitoris." Please.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:54:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AutStuff ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBH, I didn't know what a clitoris was until I read "The Color Purple" senior year of high school. I'm Female and my parents where forthcoming about sex-ed, it just never came up. In "Health" class my sophomore yr we just talked about the reproductive bits.
sig863 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a different rule in my group of friends. If you don't know what something is, you have to look it up on Urban Dictionary.
And that's the message that we deliver to little kids
And expect them not to know what a woman's clitoris is
Of course they gonna know what intercourse is
By the time they hit fourth grade
They got the Discovery Channel, don't they?
I'm not a doctor but my friend is. This is one of my favorite stories. A couple came in becuase the women was getting sick. The doctor asked if she could be pregnant. They said there is no way becuase she is on birth control. My friend said are you taking it everyday at the same time. She said no, it was making me feel sick, so my husband has been taking it for me. My friend said she almost started laughing but some how held it together.
Last night we had a 20 something female come in for vaginal bleeding. She was diagnosed with menorrhagia (prolonged menstrual bleeding). She had started her period 8 days before and still had spotting. Her instructions at discharge said "you are experiencing menses, you will experience this every 21-28 days for approximately 7 days at a time for the next 35 years".
When I got my first period, I was horrified. I had heard about them, but didn't really know what they entailed.
I thought for sure I had cancer. Death was soon.
For whatever reason, I didn't want my parents to know they were gonna lose me. I hid my bloody underwear and went outside to play and enjoy my last few weeks on Earth. I kept it up for 2 more days, changing underwear every few hours. Finally my mom found the stash.
She went outside to ask me what the hell I was doing, and I started bawling in terror at my impending demise. She laughed! I never felt so confused...
She bought me a book that weekend, and it all made sense.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:15:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So cute that your first instinct was protecting your parents! I had something similar as a reaction.
I first got my period on a trip with my dad visiting my grandparents. I actually knew what was up (we had surprisingly progressive 5th grade sex Ed) but didn't have any supplies.
Long story short, the wads of toilet paper in my undies sprung a back leak on the nine hour car trip home. When he noticed, I told him I had accidentally pooped myself.
Yes! Is that the only freaking book about periods that exists? And mine was checked out from the library, not even bought. I love my Mama, but nobody ever gave me any kinda talk. My daughter is getting far more talk than she'll want, and I'm gonna take her to the gyno. I was literally terrified to go to the ob/gyn even after I was pregnant.
My dad raised me and I don't recall any talks. I asked my girl friends who started before me any questions I had and read anything I could get my hands on so I could to try and understand what would happen to me. I was still so uncomfortable/terrified at the idea of visiting a gyno though. I didn't go until I was 22/23. Nobody made me go or suggested I should. Thankfully I didn't experience any complications and was a late bloomer in general. Being a girl is tough. I'm glad you'll be there for your daughter. <3
"The Care and Keeping of You" or something like that. It had a tip about makeshift temporary pads (just rolled up toilet paper) and that saved me the first day of my first period. Mom didn't say anything about periods except that tampons would give us TSS and we'd die.
That was one of the only things my overly religious, paranoid mother was actually reasonable about. She might have been obsessed with telling me I was dressing like a slut for wearing tank tops or accusing me of having sex with nonexistent random boys, but she bought me both tampons and pads from the very beginning.
Me too! I remember calling my mom from a hotel when I was on a trip with my dad, begging her permission to wear a tampon so I could go in the pool. She refused.
I didn't until college. My mom didn't purchase any and I was mortified by the thought purchasing feminine products on my own. My sister did, I think, but I think she purchased them herself. Sex/our bodies were a really taboo subject in our household and when it did come up it was always shameful, so I'm still dealing with that. My little sister has a spine of steel and a hell of a lot more confidence then I did/do, so she was just kind of like "meh, whatever" and did her own thing.
Yep, same. My college roommates had a good laugh and then they demonstrated how to insert a tampon with their hands. After everyone had gone to sleep (Bible belt shame was still in full effect!), I went for it, but I didn't do it right and it hurt inside for about 30 minutes before I gave up and ripped it out. They had told me if I didn't get it in far enough, it would hurt, so the next day, I got a other demonstration and gave it another go. Success. (Thanks, mom. /s)
My mom's version of the talk when I was 11 was something about baby nests that I didn't really understand and to tell me my virginity was a diamond. I convinced her to very begrudgingly let me attend the short sex ed class in 8th grade by telling her I'd get bullied if I was the only one not allowed to sit in. It was pretty thorough with lots of reading material, so by the time I was almost 14 and my cycle started, I actually knew what was going on. Went and told my mom I needed supplies and she just sighed dramatically like I was the most trying thing in her life. Thank all that is good and normal in the world for sex ed.
American Girl book? In the 90s, we got Julie's Story, with the accompanying video the girls watched starring Julie. I still don't know what the boys got to watch that afternoon.
The blood was brownish the first time, and I thought I was incontinent or something and just kept pooping myself. My mom found out and told me what was up haha.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:35:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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daitoshi ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 01:52:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents vaguely told me periods were a thing but didn't explain what it entailed, or when to expect it.
When I was 12, my mom wasn't doing so hot, kinda dying from brain cancer, so I don't really blame anyone for forgetting to remind me about this whole periods thing.
Anyway I woke up one morning with blood all over my thighs and bed, and a sharp pain low in my gut, and immediately thought I had been stabbed in the night and was going to die. I yelled for my dad and started bawling my eyes out.
It didn't help that he rushed in, saw my state, yelped, and ran out again.
He abandoned me!! There's no hope!! I really am dying! - Little!me thought.
Anyway, luckily my grandma was visiting at the time and explained things as I took a shower.
(Dad got me ice cream as an apology for scaring me)
daitoshi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in an area where "Abstinence Only" sex ed was the only thing you received in school until early Highschool, when the ACTUAL sex-ed class happened.
I was 12, parents told me at some point but I had since forgotten.
But probably not go to the ER and certainly not for spotting.
niroby ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:31:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can think of a few different reasons why you'd go for spotting to an ER. You've never had spotting before. You're experiencing unusual pain with it. You're on birth control and this is the first period you've had in three years. You spent too long looking up 'implantation bleeding' and you're paranoid you've got an ectopic pregnancy. It's not like your usual spotting so you're worried it's a symptom of an STD.
You're going to the ER because you've used up all your sick days at work, so you have to go at night. You stayed up half the night playing Dr Google and now it's 3am and you're freaking out. You don't have a car and the ER is significantly closer than a clinic. You've never actually gone to a doctor before so you're not sure where to go.
lllola ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to womanhood, woman.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:47:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Discharge instructions are my favorite to read. I always love the "please shower" or "please stop smoking crack/snorting cocaine/injecting heroine"
ethlian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:49:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom didn't tell me and I figured I'd fucked up in some way and managed to hide it for a year(I hate doctors) eventually I thought to google and started the search off with, am I dying?
I am not a Dr. but I think this story is relate-able. I was friends with a family with 7 children that did not want any more kids. The husband asked the wife to go to the Dr. and ask for birth control. She was prescribed "the pill". Apparently she was taking them as prescribed but a few months later got preggers anyway. One of her older daughters was in the room when she broke the news to her family that she was with child again. The daughter asked mother when and how often she was taking the pills. She responded, "every morning like the Dr. said. However, when I am having my monthly it is disgusting and difficult." Long story short, she was using them as a vaginal douche, so to speak. Sad to say both parents were mentally challenged. So were at least 4 of the children. It was theorized that the 3 that were considered "intelligent" were sired by someone other than the husband. I have some other strange stories but this one was a doozy.
You can get kids with normal intelligence from parents that are developmentally delayed. I remember watching this documentary about a married couple who were developmentally delayed and they had a kid. The daughter was in kindergarten, and the mom was worried because soon the daughter was going to be more advanced than the parents. The mother was worried because she wouldn't be able to help with homework or reading or anything, really, after another year or two. She didn't want her daughter to feel she was missing something and she didn't want her daughter to not be able to get the help at home that she needed. The daughter wasn't planned, she didn't intend to have a baby.
This. Thank you for saying this. So many kids end up in foster care and considered "unadoptable" because parents were mentally handicapped. Most mental retardation is not genetic.
Their was a 20 something mental retarded lady who had a baby. She was placed in a home for M.R. adults and the 2 year old baby (testing normal) was being raised by the grandparents. I'm not sure about who the father was but pretty sure one reason she was being placed was she got pregnant. Some people will take sexual advantage of mentally handicapped people. The normal procedure back in the 1950's was to sterilize all M.R. people not so now, so pregnancies happen.
I work in a pharmacy and there is a reason we have to write the route of administration on every prescription. This is the reason.
Terimary ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:58:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I can say is wow
Seicair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That same thing (using BC as a pessary) was mentioned in another comment. There's no reason that shouldn't work unless they weren't put up far enough or fell out.
RESULTS:
Peak plasma P concentrations attained within 4 hours after oral administration ranged from 8.5 to 70.6 ng/mL, whereas after vaginal administration the peak levels were attained within 8 hours and ranged from 4.4 to 181.1 ng/mL. Considerable interindividual variation was noted. Area under the plasma concentration-time curve for the two formulations was not significantly different (F = 1.09; P greater than 0.1; ANOVA).
CONCLUSIONS:
The two formulations had similar bioavailability.
Not sure if this is a typo, but there's no hyphen in "relatable." Sorry to be a grammar nazi, just wanting to be sure that you know seeing as we're in a thread full of people assuming others knew things they didn't.
Well Kellogg recommended regular circumcision on boys in the US because he thought it would reduce masturbation. One of the reasons it regained popularity in the US.
I'll give him this.. it can be challenging at times
Edit: seem to have caused some confusion what I mean by original post is that it's less pleasurable/easy? This maybe a personal thing with how mine was done but wanted to clarify anyways
I... I can't tell if you're hardcore or not... that sounds uncomfortable. Now I feel like I'll have to peel back and try it... I feel like it may need a substantially different technique...
My experience is that there is less room for skin motion. My understanding is that you can move skin up over the glands where as I cant really... hence me using lube to kinda replace that I guess.
Idk man trying to explain somthing normal for you is hard
Jatrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can confirmed this.
Source: am circumcised.
feeju ยท 752 points ยท Posted at 20:43:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mother's milk is the best food for your 3 months old son."
"Also have you considerd family planning?"
Was accused of "loose talk with women" aka harassment and police got involved.
Yes in a conservative/3rd world country.
Delanium ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:56:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in an area that's totally cool with breast feeding, so these stories always baffle me. How is breastfeeding not something that's done in a 3rd world country? I would think that's something everybody does for their babies when they have no money to spare.
Delanium ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 01:44:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so Nestle advertised in underdeveloped countries, convincing poor women that breastmilk was actually bad and getting them to spend what little they had on formula?
Jeez, every time I think I know how shitty that company is they just keep surprising me...
_Z_E_R_O ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:49:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that, they gave away samples of their formula so the women would stop lactating, thus making them dependent on the formula. These impoverished women didn't have money to buy more or access to safe drinking water to mix with the powdered formula, and a lot of babies died as a result.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Delanium ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:30:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm quite religious myself. I grew up in a religious environment. The difference is that mine and my friends' parents saw the value of educating their children about real life, instead of shrouding us in a bubble and hoping for the best.
I'm taking a guess that you're probably in a developed country, visit some developing countries and your perception of what constitutes "education" will change forever. I now have a much higher appreciation for the education of your average first world idiot.
Third world people with zero social or academic education + religion that taboos just about everything = just complete and utter fucking lunacy. At some point you're wondering "How are these people even bloody alive?!" And then you realise, these are just the ones that have survived this long.
rigred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say, If a near brainless ant can survive, than the dumbest idiot can too. You just got to hope they decide to challenge nature on that,and loose ;)
feeju ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Breastfeeding is common and recommended here too. The mother was young/poor/uneducated. I think she just didn't know any better.
Delanium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought that reccomending breastfeeding was one of the reasons you were accused of "loose talk with women."
I assume you were doing some kind of charity work, in which case I applaud you, especially since it got you in trouble with the law (as ridiculous as the law was in this case).
I also hope you were able to give some lasting knowledge to the young woman.
feeju ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
work in a govt hospital.
the "issue" here was that "a man talked to a woman about breast-feeding" and "family planning".
its usually fine but this woman and those with her were absolutely illiterate and probably told their men at home about it who got absolutely mad that someone had talked with their women in this way.
btw police were involved by me coz they had threatened me and other hospital staff.
wasnt a fun week
they had to apologize in the end but this still was pretty fucked up
send your daughters to school first if you want female doctors in your community ffs
Are you a man? Can you hire a woman to have this conversation with other women? You'd have to have the conversation with the person you hired, though. Hmm.
"Listen, what I'm about to say is going to sound hideous, disgusting, and unbearable, but it's an important truth that you'll have to understand if you want this job. If you want to leave now with your sense of reality intact, I recommend doing so now, and there is no shame in doing so."
The room darkens, /u/feeju's face is lit harshly from below as a storm suddenly kicks up.
"Babies do well when fed their mothers' milk."
Lightning strikes, a child's scream is heard, and an unseen horse whinnies in distress.
uniptf ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 22:09:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle had a lady who knew she had type one diabetes come in with a blood sugar of around five hundred. He gave her insulin and then left for a few minutes, only to come back and find her eating corndogs.
ToxDoc ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 00:02:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are lots of places people get food from. Many times they bring it. I once had a discussion with a patient about her terrible stomach pain that was so bad that she couldn't eat, while she was actively eat take out chili cheese fries with large pieces of bacon. She looked at me like I was an idiot when I asked if it was getting better since she seemed to be able to eat now.
Patients will even order delivery to the ED. My colleague saw a Chinese food delivery guy at the Ambulance enterence. He was looking for a patient who then showed up a minute later via EMS. The guy called 911, then for Chinese food, since he didn't think he'd get any food in the ED. Chinese food delivery beat the ambulance to the hospital.
Paramedic. You would be amazed how many people we have to tell not to smoke while they have a tube in their nose pumping out one the most flammable things on earth (oxygen). I have actually seen people stick a lit cigarette inside a mask with O2 flowing. That was the day I slapped an oxygen mask off a patient's face.
My grandpa did this. He passed away about 5 years ago and smoked til the day he died. Blew off his own eyebrows at least 3 times trying to smoke with his oxygen mask on.
My uncle smoked with his oxygen mask either on or he had just taken it off. Caught himself on fire, burned his lungs and throat and there wasn't much they could do about it, gave him pain meds but that's all they could offer him. It was awful and eventually he just couldn't handle the pain and he killed himself.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how one of my grandma's sister's died. Smoking in bed with an oxygen mask on. Ended up setting the bed on fire and part of the house. She lived with some very bad burns for a few days before dying too.
gino188 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:15 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that most people don't know Chemistry and have no idea that oxygen can really make things burn crazy. Most adults would probably fail grade 9 or 10 science.
..but lol..trying to take a smoke while you are on oxygen...haha.
flyguy42 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they were surprised that you thought O2 was flammable and needed a smoke while they decided how to respond. :-)
Pure oxygen is not flammable, it does however make flammable things burn more quickly and easily (enough to be explosive) but you can light a lighter in a pure oxygen room, the whole room won't explode into flame.
Okay I've seen a lot of things used as supporting evidence but this is a 6th grader with a fish bowl and a candle and does not accurately depict what happens when an open flame meets an extremely high concentration of O2.
Seicair ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you say it doesn't? Chemistry tutor here, iCameToLearnSomeCode is absolutely correct. And the video is a pretty good demonstration, that kid did a great experiment.
I say it's not accurate because there's no way to know exactly what was happening with his experiment. Nothing was measuring O2 concentration within his fish bowl and who knows what sort of volume/flow was coming through the little plastic tube, or how much the candle flame itself was consuming while new O2 was being slowly added . Ignoring how any air movement around the bowl affected things or if the heat from the flame caused enough air movement to effectively not make a steady stream of O2.
If a vacuum chamber was filled with various concentrations of O2 and then the candle was lit within I could accept it as being more concrete proof of the outcome.
Seicair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's got oxygen flowing into the fishbowl, and you can watch the candle burn more brightly/faster. That's a pretty clear case of cause and effect. Oxygen is more dense than air, so it's filling the bowl from the bottom up, which is why it takes some time after he turns it on to see the change in the flame.
If you want to see pure oxygen, check out this video.
I reiterate, I'm a chemistry tutor and I can assure you that oxygen is not flammable. Three things are necessary for fire, an oxidizer, heat, and fuel. Oxygen is the oxidizer, but it will not burst into flame in the absence of fuel to burn. Just the way if you have pure hydrogen gas and try and light it on fire in the absence of oxygen nothing will happen. You need a fuel/oxygen mix to get fire. (If you have more frightening oxidizers like fluorine gas, you don't even need the heat to be past room temperature).
Maybe I'm confused, sorry. I thought the claim where this all stemmed from was that a high concentrations of oxygen was not explosive. My argument was that with the above test doesn't really prove that one way or another. Yes the flame glows a bit brighter.
Seicair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can cause things to explode, (which iCameToLearnToCode specifically said,) but it depends on how flammable/reactive the fuel is. A candle won't explode because the heat first has to melt the wax and then vaporize it, but a mixture of flammable gasses and sufficient oxygen will certainly explode.
Oxygen is not flammable, it's an oxidizer obviously but oxygen itself does not burn. It does accelerate rate of burn.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Seicair ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:03:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See the other comments, oxygen is not flammable. It causes other things to burn, but it will not burst into flame of its own accord without something else to react with.
I work at a bank, and there is a guy who comes through every so often, sweetest guy I've ever waited on, but he's on oxygen, and sometimes he'll be smoking away in my drive thru with the tubes in his nose. Freaks me out.
Weaksoul ยท 762 points ยท Posted at 22:30:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two stories, not about patients, but about the Drs lack of knowledge - both working in a western country.
I worked with a young female Dr from the middle east. One day on discussing homosexuality she said 'yeah but it's only been around for like the past 20-30 years though right?' Was absolutely gobsmacked!
Another conversation, older middle eastern (different country) male Dr. 'Being gay is a symptom of having been molested by another man'. Yeah. Wow
WhimsyUU ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 00:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One day on discussing homosexuality she said 'yeah but it's only been around for like the past 20-30 years though right?' Was absolutely gobsmacked!
On another website, someone said that premarital sex was "invented" in the 1950s as a result of the beginning of the moral decline in culture. When we asked what he thought unmarried people had been doing for the rest of human history, he said he supposed that they masturbated.
WhimsyUU ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:14:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I certainly had trouble wrapping my mind around how extremely ignorant someone would have to be of history to not know about any lovers, concubines, affairs, bastards, mistresses, etc.
Given how famous the Ottoman Sultans were for their concubines, I suppose that concubines never registered as premarital sex. Also, given that the Abrahamic religions prescribe execution for adultery, they likely had no exposure to anyone who had done such a thing.
I don't know why people try to insist that just because he's really really good at his job (Brain surgeon) he should be good at something entirely different (Politician). It doesn't work that way most of the time. I think the country is going is going to get a really rude awakening with so called good "Businessman Trump"
Agreed. And for a 'good' businessman, he's filed for bankruptcy quite a bit. I don't think Warren Beatty has ever filed for bankruptcy and he's pretty effing successful.
shit, we can go back to before we were humans. our closest cousins in the animal kingdom have homosexual relationships and sex. with trans people we can go back to the advent of gender identity itself.
I worked with a guy from India who swore up and down that there are no gays in India. I quickly pointed out that it's illegal and sometimes punishable by death to be homosexual in India.
His response? I know! That's why there are no gays in India -_-
goloons ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:45:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in Japan, a woman told me and my British friend that there were no gay people in Japan. My friend busted out laughing and assured her she was wrong. He had fucked a Japanese dude the previous night.
Homosexuality isn't punishable by death in India, but by maximum 14 years imprisonment. The statute actually derives from the Crimes Act of 1861. Members of the previous government actually tried to get it struck down in the courts, and it was legal for a few years. Sadly, the law was ruled constitutional and the new government likely doesn't want to repeal it.
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:20:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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addysol ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 00:59:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An alpha gay clearly. A gay-tient zero if you will
Addoude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:19:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess being highly educated doesn't stop someone from being ignorant.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:45:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So...homosexuality is caused by homosexuality.
It's like Blade but with more leather. Things are starting to make sense.
I worked with a young female Dr from the middle east. One day on discussing homosexuality she said 'yeah but it's only been around for like the past 20-30 years though right?' Was absolutely gobsmacked!
I referred to ancient Greeks as "ass-fuckers" *) in a conversation at university. My twenty something friend didn't know that ancient Greeks had homosexual sex on daily basis.
*) as a term of endearment, I was speaking highly of them.
Yes for anyone that doesn't know about it google " greek homosexual pottery" or ancient greek art depicting sex. If you are really wanting some weird stuff add animals or bacchanal to that.
LeftZer0 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:34:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smart people can be convinced of stupid things if it's all they have ever been told.
Gwuc ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:16:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and you wonder why gay rights in those countries are lacking...
OhSirrah ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:19:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is there to wonder about?
Keltin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who's gay who believes the latter one. It's honestly incredibly sad that he had something like that happen to him so young, and believes it to be the source of his homosexuality. He's also a devout Catholic.
He's been seeing a therapist, I really hope he gets it all untangled in his head because what he believes makes me worry for him sometimes.
Somebody once said the Greeks invented sex and the Italians introduced it to women...
onedoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did you say to them?
Weaksoul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To the former, as in this thread, I pointed out many recent and historical examples of gay folks, some of which she'd obviously heard about from sources outside medical school but presumably hadnt thought about them since being 'educated' as a medic.
The other guy, I had no examples I could convince him with, but he smoked and I always used to tell him smoking a pork cigar was better for him than a tobacco one...
oh boy...what country from the ME? I've known quite a few MEastern doctors, who were quite smart and knew about homosexuality...but wow...
NJNeal17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As states continually pass referendums I thought this would be a thing of the past but I am now looking for a new GI bc my mid-40's CCFA listed gastroenterologist told me she would never prescribe marijuana to any patient for any reason bc it has no medicinal benefits. She told me this after I asked her to get the ball rolling on getting me a Rx since my state just passed a medical marijuana law. sigh
I had a Saudi student who wanted to be a doctor. The number of bizarre things he believed about sexuality and homosexuality make me hope he never becomes a doctor, anywhere. But he won't, he had a learning disability that would prevent it from ever happening.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being gay is a symptom of having been molested by another man
A lot of people from this country believe that too. Plenty of Christians seem to anyway. If a gay guy is molested by a woman does that make him straight now in their view?
Dental hygienist here. It's unbelievable how many people tell me they "had a toothache so they took some left over antibiotics from their last sinus/bladder/whatever infection."
I've started telling them: "Please don't do that anymore. You are the reason MRSA exists. Don't self medicate. Antibiotics aren't a magic fix all pill. And for god's sake, finish antibiotics that are prescribed to you."
Parents do this to their kids. Adults do it to themselves. People pop antibiotics like candy and then don't finish the dosage administered because they feel better..
I am a doctor and not finishing your prescribed antibiotics can be seriously dangerous and lead to future infections that are much more difficult to treat - if they can be treated at all. If you're going to take antibiotics - FINISH THEM. If you don't finish them any surviving bugs will be mutated (and genetically absorb the antibiotic) and you are much less likely to respond to another round of the same. This is the main problem with resistance that is making our antibiotics useless. That, and our proclivity to feed cattle and other flesh (including farm fish) tons of antibiotics so that now we are hoping against all hope that the (polluted) oceans will provide us with new material for future antibiotics (AKA "against life")
In addition, and much more serious, the role of antibiotics in the alteration of gut flora is making the rounds - especially troubling when more research is revealing the incredible wide range of disease and conditions (by having the wrong levels and ratios in gut flora) have in our body/mind/spirit continuum.
Best to consider learning how to PREVENT infections in the first place
Yeah, this is a terrible idea. The only time you should have pills left over is if they somehow don't come in the amount you're prescribed. Finish your damn prescriptions.
Yeah, this is one of the things that really piss me off. Like with many other issues, there isn't really an ethically feasible solution, but sometimes I wish people would have to take a test to see if they understand the main concept of why they need to finish their antibiotics and if they don't, too bad... no antibiotics for you...
Thalenos ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:12:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father who is a doctor had to sit down and explain to the mother of his patient that letting him play soccer on a broken leg in a cast was not only harming his "future soccer career" but him too, and had to tell her to stop helping him slip off his cast to let it heal.
Not a doctor but I used to transport patients at a large hospital. One time I picked up this normal looking African American guy from the ER who was about 60 and seemed with it. We joked and talked about current sports the entire way up to his room which took about 5 minutes. I get him to his semi-private room which has a patient in the bed closest to the door having their vitals taken by a nurse. I ask the guy "can you walk?" He hops off they stretcher says "yup!" He walks to his side of the partitioning curtain in his hospital gown with no trouble. He then walks between his bed and curtain and without warning he casts the front of his gown to the side as if it was a super hero cape, begins humming, and proceeds to pee in against the curtain in the corner like he was trying to write his name in the snow. I didn't know what to do other than laugh and tell the nurse. As I left she just kept repeating "I love my job... I love my job... I love my job." That was one of the funniest things I have ever seen in person.
This was my own father... After questioning why he couldn't make it up a flight of stairs (grew up in a 3 story home, was unusual for him) he admitted to having chest pain and shortness of breath for almost a year. Went to hospital, stent wouldn't do, straight to surgery for bypass and a valve replacement to boot. Surgeon said it was one of the worst valves he has ever seen, dad could have suddenly dropped dead at any moment.
(Warning for impending nastiness)
6 months later he is asking how long it takes a kidney stone to pass, on further questioning he has been peeing blood for 4 months.... Turned out to be Bladder cancer.
Moral of the story: Listen to your body for Christ's sake!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:54:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has drank red wine since he was probably around 15 (Greek life). He starts pissing blood, says nothing to anyone about it for months. Casually brings it up one day and I'm like uhh you need to go the doctor. 3 weeks later, confirmed bladder cancer, 3 weeks after that he gets a neobladder. When we asked why he didn't say anything sooner "I thought my piss was red from the wine" 50 years later and NOW the wine is causing you problems? I wanted to slap him.
Not as bad, but similar start: my mom was winded after going up a flight of stairs. I told her she needed to see a doctor. "No I'm just out of shape." "This is not normal. YOU NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR." So she went to the doctor and he took her heart rate and it was 144 bpm. She ended up spending 8 days in the hospital, 4 of which were in the ICU, with atrial flutter and fibrillation. She could have had a stroke if left untreated.
The summer before I went to college, I took a summer job at a local organic food market. I just wanted to be a cashier or something, but they gave me a job in the supplement department. The rest of the supplement department was staffed by middle-aged ladies, and whenever a man sauntered into the department, they pawned him off on me because I'm male. One day, there was a man wandering around the "men's health" section, and I asked him if he needed any assistance. He, like most of the crazies walking around this store, was very nervous. He asked me if we had any calcium or anything like that "for the bone." I replied that we did have calcium supplements, and that the were over this way in our bone health section. He then started asking me if his wife will like these calcium supplements and if his performance will get better while using these supplements. I reply with how, if he is calcium-deficient, calcium supplements can help with bone strength, and that lots of women take calcium supplements. He was suddenly really relieved and said "how good it was to be able to talk to another guy about these wang things." Dumbfounded, I replied, "...What?" He pointed at his crotch and said, "My wang, man. My wang!" My head started spinning - when this man told me he needed something for "the bone," he meant his penis, and this whole conversation has been about his genitals. In my glorious wisdom, I said, "Wait. Why do you need calcium for your penis?" He replied that his "bone's not working and he can't get hard." And then it hit me: this middle-aged man with a wedding ring thought that there is a literal bone inside his body that makes his penis erect like he's Wolverine or something. I explained that there was no 'bone' and that penises get erections by filling spongy tissue with blood. He replied, "Then why do they call it 'the bone?'" From that moment on, I understood why all the other ladies in the department stayed clear of the men's health section.
KaraWolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an fyi biologically humans are one of the very few mammal species who DON'T have an actual bone in their penis. Its called a baculum, and most other animals have them. They're weird shaped.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the hospital ER. There was a patient next to me (a curtain is all that was between us) and I heard this conversation:
Dr: You are having a severe allergic reaction. What are you allergic to?
Pt: Wheeze,wheeze, gasp, help!
Parents of pt: Well, he's allergic to shellfish for one...
Dr: Did he ingest shellfish?
Parents: Yes.
Dr: Does he understand he's allergic to shellfish?
Parents: Well, he didn't think he really was since he hasn't had it for many years, so he thought he'd try and see if he really is.
Pt: Gargle, gasp, choke wheeze help!
Dr: CAN I GET HELP IN HERE FOR RESPIRATORY?!!
Parents: Well, just fix him up and we'll take him home
Dr: Not that simple (as staff rush in), your son is in serious respiratory distress
Parents: A pill or something?
Dr: Someone get the parents out!
tl;dr kid deliberately ate shellfish to see if allergic, parents watched, kid is dying
pi123263 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parenting done wrong.
nelzborg ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 02:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a patient complain about her vaginal jelly prescription. She claimed it didn't work and wanted a different prescription. She explained she used it every day but hated the taste. The prescription read apply as directed every day. She had been applying it to toast and eating it for several days.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this happened with another doctor I couldn't believe ir.
When you place a cast for a broken bone, the general rule is that you have to fix the two joints adjacent to the fracture (I.e. you break your forearm, you place a cast that inmovilices the wrist and elbow), pretty simple, right?
One time I received a patient with a cast in his forearm, took an Xray to clasify the fracture and THIS.
Hint: you can see the humerus (arm bone) broken by half, but the cast is in the forearm.
Every now and then when I feel sad or dumb I look at that Xray.
That fracture is right above the proximal end of the cast. Is it possible that the cast acted as a fulcrum and the fracture occurred after plaster application?
jorrylee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:17:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this casted in Jasper in the nineties? Happened there. Doctor saw a lot of ski injuries. Other docs saw them the next day to fix stuff.
I had a conversation with a then 18 year old friend who was telling me about her first obgyn exam and she swore up and down that the dr did a prostate exam on her.... she didn't believe me when I told her that women don't have prostates.
Edit: my bad I definitely didn't realize this was a doctors of Reddit post lol. I'm no doctor!
Some doctors include a rectal exam as part of their standard pelvic/wellness check. If she knew a prostate exam was a finger up the butt sort of thing, she might've had just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
The first time I went to OB/GYN was given a rectal exam too. She was the only one to do it and require it. There was notices on all the doors about it. Frankly a little weird that she was the only ob/gyn out of like 10 or 12, I've had and none other mention it or try to do it.
I was thinking the same thing. I needed annual exams before I was sexually active because I needed the BC to control menstrual symptoms, and the OBs always did the rectal exam until I became sexually active. That made me assume things shift around a little in the vagina after starting to have sex? I guess it could also be doctor preference/education on exam style? Anyone?
IIRC, it's something that doctors used to do regularly as part of a pelvic exam, but it's been deemed unnecessary now. I'm pretty sure it's just an old practice that some still hold on to but is no longer standard.
The thing is, women do have what is called a prostate, although for years it was called something else (a something-or-other gland, can't remember the name). Lot of debate there, though, lol
YataBLS ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 00:36:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh geez! do you have your number? I'm a expert physician in feminine prostate exams and breast cancer gropi... I mean detection.
Seriously that was my granddad's "cure" for everything. He wasn't serious though, he just liked to tease us. Headache, pig shit. Broken hand, pig shit. Pregnant? Pig shit.
When my uncle got diagnosed with cancer he announced it at a holiday. Granddad was properly horrified, but when he heard it was caught early and would be okay (it was) he of course suggested the cure-all. And then we all had a laugh trying to imagine how to rub pig shit on lung cancer.
My mom is a nurse and told me about this guy with 17 kids (all girls) from 6 different women. He kept on having children because he really wanted a son- she had to explain that he was the determining factor for the baby's sex.
You know the sad part is he didn't even have that many children, & his most successful child, Queen Elizabeth (the "Virgin Queen"), was produced by the first wife he killed off. Also, she was a girl. GirlsRc00l2d00d.
I'm gettin' married to the widow next door, she's been married seven times before. And every one was an 'enery, she wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam. I'm her eighth old man, I'm 'enery, 'enery the VIII I am.
His first and second wives were never able to give him a son, just one daughter each. He thought there was something wrong with them for not producing a son, so he divorced the first wife and had the second one beheaded.
His third wife gave him a son, but she died soon after childbirth (son eventually died at age 15). He still wanted more sons, so he kept marrying, but never did get any more (legitimate) sons. Or daughters, for that matter.
I think OP's joke was that the patient in /u/ramengirl10's story was King Henry VIII.
It is important to note the only reason he did not kill his first wife was because she was the daughter of the King of Spain and killing her would have led to war with Spain. It was bad enough that he had the marriage annulled and basically cast her out like a peasant
she had to explain that he was the determining factor for the baby's sex.
Somewhere else in this thread there's going to be a post from somebody who went to a nurse that told them they were the determining factor in their child's sex and could only spawn girls, despite that being flagrantly untrue.
helm ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:34:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Healthy sperm is not necessary created 50/50 X and Y.
Carr0t ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:51:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she didn't say he could only produce girls (from OPs comment, anyway), just that he was the determining factor. Which is correct, as I understand it. Egg can only be X, sperm can be X or Y, and thus make the zygote XX (female) or XY (male). If for some reason he's producing a lot more X sperm than Y sperm...
When I was a baby, my father, in a drunken rage, once denied that I was his child because "(his last name)'s don't make girls!" His parents had 4 boys, so.
(He did accept me as his own, though. I look a lot like him. Even before paternity testing was done it was obvious that I was his.)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Men contribute either an X or Y chromosome, which determines a child's sex (women can only contribute an X), so literally he determines the baby's sex.
From the way the story is framed it seems to imply that he keeps seeking out different women to have children with, with the notion that it's THEIR fault that he keeps having girls
While I don't think it was the point of the story, the fact that homie has 17 kids and they're ALL girls (extremely statistically unlikely) leads me to believe something is fucky with his sperm/Y-chromosome.
Yeah, I'm just a layman, but my guess is that either his Y chromosomes are somehow incapable if conceiving, or they are capable of conception but they introduce defects that rapidly cause the death of the fetus.
That, or he just got very unlucky. No matter which way you look at it, a different mother probably wouldn't have helped much, if at all.
Population wide it is a 50/50 chance male/female but for individual fathers it can skew one way or the other. Something about other genes determining if they produce more Y sperm vs. X sperm.
Thanks for explaining that. Loads of people replied about him being the reason they were girls and with my very minimal science education and awful memory I couldn't figure out what they meant.
RCN1138 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:01:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Accurate. My family on my dad's side going back as far as we can has only had male children born (without IV, which makes you more likely to have a female). Something wacky with the 'X' chromosome I guess.
He means the X chromosome supplied by the sperm/father. Mom's eggs always give an X chromosome, and dad's sperm supply either an X or a Y to determine the sex of the child. So if the sperm carrying the X chromosome in his lineage have developed with some mutation or abnormality, only the Y sperms will fertilize the eggs or progress to successful implantation in the uterine lining, not spontaneously abort or not fertilize the egg at all ike the malformed X sperm-fertilized eggs might.
Yeah, timing has a lot to do with it. Female sperm are stronger, so if the egg falls late it will be a girl, whereas male sperm power through sooner but die off faster. So if the egg is already in place at that point it would be likely a male sperm would reach the egg. I'm his case something is definitely off unless by some extreme chance he just so happened to manage female timing every single time.
Man has sex with woman wanting son, gets daughter, blames woman for the babies sex, gets new woman, repeat. Some Henry VIII shit.
Lo452 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:46:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except Henry VIII had a son. Actually 2 - Edward VI (legitimate by Jane Seymour) and Henry Fitzroy (a bastard). Plus he only had 2 girls - Bloody Mary and Queen Elizabeth the 1st. So, really, he was 50/50.
He left his first wife after 5 unsuccessful births and 1 daughter. It was more finding women who could carry a child to term multiple times than getting a son.
He had so many more bastards than this. They're not all completely founded but I have an entire book dedicated to his bastard children and his many mistresses who had children during their affair. Super interesting.
Lo452 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just kept it to confirm/officially recognized for simplicity. I mean, I'm sure he had many more kids, but being they were all from affairs, people will cast doubt on it. It is interesting though, how history mis-remembers him now.
He slept with 6 women in the hopes that he would have a son, not realizing that the mother didn't determine the sex of the child. I his ignorance, after the first woman had (presumably) multiple girls he moved on to another, and another, down the line trying to find a woman who would birth him a son. The irony is that in his ignorance he did not realize that his sperm decided the sex of the child and that he was the reason he had all girls, not the mothers.
fptp01 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:18:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28 and this is a first I've heard of this. I had no idea.
He was picking different women because he thought a different woman would increase his chance of having a boy.... I think is what they're trying to say.
Maybe he wanted to speed up the process. Waiting 9 months for one baby is too long. Impregnate multiple women and you can get 6 babies per year!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:52:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's what I was thinking lol I bet you a whole bunch of those kids were born within months of each other. If he knocks up multiple women at once it increases the chances of him having a boy, right?
in the end it truly is a 50/50 chance, but if we wanna get all "annoying" about it, it's the father who gives the x or y chromosome aka it's the fathers "fault" (not really his fault though because it's a 50/50 chance, but the 50/50 is coming from him)
Tehrin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:03:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont think you understand chance %. Nobody in the world will be exactly 50/50, you would have to have an exactly equal amount of x and y sperm, some could be 80/20 - unless you are simply referring to schrodinger's chance which all of them are both x and y until proven otherwise.
Elfere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually a litteral above 50% chance for a boy...
But there's an even split of men vs women in adults. Yup. And male teenagers are more likely than women to do stupid stuff and die.
There are some cases where a genetic female ends up anatomically male: it's rare, and you won't find out unless you do DNA work on them, but it does exist. And these people are genetically unable to have sons.
If this man was one of them (the alternative is the ~ 1 in 131 072 chance, assuming a 50-50 split, that he's just unlucky), he would never have a child. And it is his "fault", for some definition of fault.
iulioh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are cases - and it's worth noting here that we don't know how common: it could be that the ~1% increased rate of male births are due to this, or it could be very rare - where a person who is genetically XX for whatever reason ends up developing as a male. The main reason is what is known as XX Male Syndrome, which also tends to result in sterility or low libido; so that's probably not the case here. However, there have been (isolated) cases of men without XX Male Syndrome (read that link: it's a specific case) who are XX; and while fertile, can't have sons.
Same situation as King Henry VIII, really. He bangs a lady, she pops out a girl. Does it again, and another girl. Assumes the problem is with the lady ; partly because he doesn't know how Chromosomes work, and partly because human brains like to protect themselves and their confidence by ascribing all possible problems to external factors whenever possible.
In case you also don't know, women have XX Chromosomes and men have XY chromosomes. In the childmaking process, the woman can only contribute an X, while the man has a basically 50/50 chance of tossing an X or Y in there, and that determines the sex of the baby.
Now, the guy in this situation doesn't know that, and he's blaming the lady for only making girls in her magic baby factory. He goes and finds a different lady, thinking that the first lady's magic baby factory is permanently switched to girl-mode. Same thing happens. He does this over and over and over again, with 6 different women, all trying to get one with a magic baby factory that'll make a baby boy to carry his name on into the future. Because that's important to him for reasons he probably couldn't articulate if you asked.
The only difference between him and Henry the VIII is that because divorce is perfectly legal, he didn't have to kill any of the mothers of his many daughters in order to try out a different magic baby factory.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just before I was discharged a nurse told me a story about a lady that was once in the hospital giving birth to her 14th child. So her and the husband decided they didn't want to know the gender of their baby and hoped it would be a boy. So the day comes and the lady gives birth; the doctor congratulates them on their beautiful baby girl. Eventually lady and her husband get left alone and the nurse walked in on the wife getting insulted by the husband. The husband told her that it was her fault that that she didn't couldn't give him any sons and that he was going to leave her and find another woman to give her the son he's always wanted. So the lady starts crying asking for forgiveness and saying she tried so hard to give them a son. The nurse gets angry hearing this so she decided to get the Doctor who delivered the baby for the couple. Doctor walks in and proceeds to tell the husband that it wasn't the wife's fault for her only having daughters. The husband gets angry and still insists that it was her fault. The Doctor had to explain to him that it was his sperm that decided to gender and that females are just the receiver of it. That females have no choice whatsoever and are the ones who end up paying the price for it by suffering endless hours pain trying to bring a new life into this world. So no matter how many females he slept with he probably will never give birth to a son especially considering that he has 14 daughters now and he should the only one to blame for only having daughters. The nurse said that the guy ended up apologizing to his wife and said that this was their last child.
I have four older half-sisters and one older brother.
I amuse myself by thinking that Dad really wanted a son, so left his first wife after she produced only daughters. After having my brother with my mom, he thought, "fucked up that time, better try again". I was born, he thought "finally got it right", and stopped making babies.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in a hospital lab where patients would drop off sperm samples in the plastic cups. One time a guy showed up there, no cup, no doctor's orders. He just thought we'd be able to look at his sperm under the microscope to tell him if he made boys or girls.
I hate when parents play gender lottery. My parents ended up with 3 girls before my mom said that was enough and had her tubes tied. My dad wanted to keep trying for a boy.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, was your mom the RN in charge of Henry VIII?
(For reference, that is roughly equivalent to rolling a dice and getting the same amount seven times in a row)
Edit:
Bonus stats! The likelihood of having a male child in less than 17 kids is 0.999992. The likelihood of having a male child in 17 kids or more is 3.8147 * 10-6 .
Well if the women would quit killing off all the Y semens to make it in there, maybe one of them would be victorious.
But seriously the odds of having 17 girls in a row is incredibly small when explained just by simple math in terms of a coin flip. Something else medically was going on.
kaenneth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1:131072ish odds if random, is there a condition that causes only female babies for a man?
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are some studies that have show a strong correlation to a woman's stress levels and likelihood to have female babies:
What's false about it? Male is the carrier of the X vs. Y chromosome, so yes, he was the determining factor (not that he could do anything about it, of course).
Nonsense. It's a 51-49 chance, it's not caused by defective Y chromosomes. That dude is the equivalent of the guy who wants to flip heads and gets tails 20 times in a row. It's unlikely, but perfectly possible.
How is that false? To have a male child it requires the 'male' or 'Y' chromosome...women don't have that only men do therefore only men can produce male offspring, so technically he is the determining factor when it comes to the sex of his children. Unless human biology has changed dramatically since i was in school.
He is the determining factor but it's just random. So surely by having more kids because he wants a boy he is actually doing the right thing.
It could be that I misread the initial comment and that the guy was trying with different women to have a boy meaning that he thinks a different woman could have an effect, but that'd not how the comment is obviously meant to read.
feeju ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:07:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he was changing women in hopes that one could bear him a son. obviously didnt know how human reproduction works.
this is not uncommon in 3rd world countries
Yeah the comment doesn't say that though, it just says he kept trying having kids to get a boy which is where i misunderstood
feeju ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was pretty obvious to me.
different way of perception i guess
Jaloss ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:47:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's right, if the guys gives a x chromosome, it's a girl, if he gives a y chromosome, it's a boy
Noirly4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the father determines the sex of a baby. a woman gives two X chromosomes, and the male gives either an X or a Y. XX means girl, XY means boy. what did you think was untrue about the comment?
No, not entirely. Men have X and Y, women have X and X. So to get a male the man has to give his Y. But even if it were vice versa, a woman switching partners, it would have the same likelyhood.
I get the whole x and y thing i think the initial comment was just worded badly
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wowwwww. What a stupid idiot.
sedaak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what are you saying, that he was only supplying Xs? It doesn't matter if he is the determining factor if conventional wisdom is a 50/50 chance. This is giving you a pass and completely ignoring the environmental factors inside a women that influence the swim paths of x vs y sperm, none of which can be researched by any method I am aware of.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats a cool story, but don't see how it fits here, thats not something id expect a random person to know.
AnnaB264 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? That something I thought most people with a basic education would know.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, why would they remember info they probably never have to use? Maybe I'm underestimating the average person but i wouldn't even expect someone to know which sex has which chromosomes of the top of their head. I'd guess most ppl would know one is XX and one is XY but not know which is which.
My mother. She thought we are big bags of blood. By that, I mean no arteries / veins, when you get stabbed it's like popping a hole in the bag and blood just spurts out like a hole in a dam.
Emergency nurse practitioner here. Had a patient once with a bowel obstruction, and we were placing a nasogastric tube to suction so the patient didn't have to continue puking their guts up. The family (consisting of an adult daughter and son) wanted to know why it was necessary to put the patient through an NG tube. This is totally a reasonable question, because placing an NG tube is pretty traumatic!
I explained that because the gut contents cannot move forward past the obstruction, they were backing up and causing the patient to vomit. They stared at me blankly. I asked a few questions to clarify what part they didn't understand...and it turns out they didn't have the basic fundamental understanding that the food you put in your mouth travels downward through the stomach and intestines, then exits as feces.
I tried to explain this process very quickly, very basically (think elementary school health class). I was met with further blank stares, then "Could this be because of some cold cuts they ate this morning?"
I couldn't bring myself to just say "YES, IT WAS THE HAM." I just didn't say anything. Just told them "No, not really" and left it at that.
moxiered ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:18:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... where... where did they think the shit came from?
I worked with a guy who used to spray Lisol spray down his throat believing it would kill any bacteria in his throat. We pleaded with him to see his Doc. which he did. The can of lysol vanished from under his bench. He must have got a real dressing down by his Doc. and would not talk about it again.
I once had a 23 year old female come to the ER complaining she hadn't had her period in a few months. I asked her if she could be pregnant. She said she always pee'd the sperm out like her boyfriend said, so no she could be pregnant. She said this with quite a bit of attitude. I explained to her that's not how it works, nicely. She disappeared before her pregnancy test came back, but it was positive.
Edit: On a similar note, I once had someone ask me if her baby/fetus could get pregnant from her having sex, but she was only 16 or 17.
pi123263 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so no she could be pregnant.
I think you made a mistake there, you propably meant
My mom had to explain to a guy that just because your penis extends because of blood flow it does not mean it's a good place to inject meth. They had to filet it open to cut out the infection that took over. Nasty jazz.
I've read almost every story up until this point in the comments. I almost had to stop after reading that one O_o
pbabinea ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy in his mid-fifties come in for blood sugar screening. He was at ~18 mmol/l, which is VERY high. He didn't have any symptoms and claimed to have a fairly regular diet. Then he remembered that his wife had made a batch of pralines (basically pure sugar) and he had eaten "about 35" in the hour before coming in. He was beyond perplexed when I told him to never again eat a fucking pound of sugar in an hour.
Out of curiosity, where are you located? mmol/L is not a unit I'm familiar with. I'm type 1 diabetic and my equipment and doctors refer to blood sugar in mg/dL, so I'm curious if it's a regional thing.
pbabinea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in the US. I used mmol/L (millimoles per liter) in this post since it is an international standard measurement. I can't remember the last time I've seen it used in the US outside of an academic setting though. For comparison, 18 mmol/L is roughly 325 mg/dL.
emayelee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:58 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse from Finland here. Normal morning blood sugar before eating is around 4,0 to 5,5 so sometimes I have to guesstimate what other unit users mean when they say their blood sugar is high (or low) and it is in the hundreds.
Not a doctor, and this post is old enough that no one will see this, but what the hell.
Many years ago, in my early 20s, I was working retail at a store with a mostly older, mostly female employee base. For reasons I will never remember, hymens came up in conversation in the break room. We were a close knit, family like group. So it was odd but not out of bounds.
Anyway, the conversation ends and almost everyone has left the break room. Just me and a woman I'll call M left. She sneaks up to me and asks quietly "Um, what's a hymen?"
All I could do was blink for a solid 2 or 3 minutes. This woman was in her 50s(40s maybe?) and had not one, not two, but three teenage daughters.
sev0036 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a pharmacy student and one of the pharmacist I worked with at one time told me about a patient who came in for counseling on NuvaRing use (it's an intrauterine contraceptive shaped like a large ring that is changed by the patient each month). So the lady asks her how long for it to take effect and the pharmacist was explaining the process to her when she just happens to look down and see something very strange. She then asks the patient if the doctor told her at all how to insert the device, and the lady responded "what do you mean? I'm not an idiot. I can put a bracelet on". The next 40 minutes were spent explaining that it was supposed to be inserted like a tampon and not like bracelet.
enocc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the woman on House who used her inhaler by spraying her neck
I work in a hospital. Please just trust me when I say people actually do that.
sev0036 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like I said, not my personal story. It was told to me. But I did ask in class today if that was common and was told that it's VERY common unfortunately.
More just a doctors story but thought i would share anyway. My dad is a GP and he told me a story about a former colleague. The GP worked in a surgery where they pressed a button and this would notify reception to send the next patient through. He pressed the button a waited a few minutes. Nobody came in so he pressed the button again. Still nothing. Eventually, after a few more button presses, a man and a woman walk in. The doctor sits them down and proceeds to ask a few normal questions. The man had come in for a prostate exam. The doctor asks him to take his trousers down and bend over whilst he puts his gloves on. He then proceeds to check this man's prostate. Everything seems in order and the man puts his trousers back on and sits down. The doctor tells him everything is fine. The doctor says goodbye and opens the door for the man and woman to leave. The man walks out however the woman stays seated. The doctor says are you not going with your husband? She says it's not his husband and has never seen him before in her life. She had sat there quietly and watched this man receive a prostate exam. It turns out that pressing the button so many times had meant the receptionist had sent through the next two patients who happened to arrive together.
TL;DR: A doctor gives a prostate exam to a man with some woman in the room who he assumed was the man's wife. It turns out it was the next patient who had been sent through at the same time as the man.
I work with adults with mental illness. Once had to have a conversation with a client trying to explain that cigarettes are not food. For context, we were going grocery shopping, and when I asked him what he planned to get, he said, "just root beer and cigarettes." When I told him that wasn't food, he said, "well, agree to disagree." I made sure he got food. So, it might not seem surprising that a person with severe mental illness would think like this, but this guy could eat. He ate a lot, and enjoyed eating. He knew that he had to eat. But for some reason, he honestly thought that cigarettes were food.
I mean I know cigarettes aren't food but they definitely stop your hunger. There have been times where the family didn't have enough food so the youngest ones got the food and the oldest got cigarettes to subside the hunger until there was more food. I get where he's coming from.
It could have been because they're sold in a grocery store and grocery stores are where you buy food. There's a certain logic to it, just not one that most of us would follow.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He would literally smokes cigarettes all fucking day if he could. Oh, and btw, this man also had a shunt in his heart and a persisting heart condition.
Nurse midwife here. I had a couple once who wasn't getting pregnant, had been married 8 years. I did the typical work up, taught them about signs of fertility, recommended a book and to track cycles. They came back a month later pregnant and confessed that before the book, they had never had intercourse. She figured "it didn't need to go IN there".
I hope you feel a little bit guilty...they obviously shouldn't be reproducing.
lowdiver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, totally off topic but I'm working on my undergrad now with hopes to become a midwife- anything you wish you'd known/done?
mvsr990 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:44:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roommate was talking about how she often had unprotected sex in non-monogamous situations because condoms irritated her vagina for days afterward. I had to explain the concept of a latex allergy and the alternative jimmy hats to a woman who had been sexually active for 12 years.
Back when I was 16, I started suffering from quite intense pain after intercourse. My then-boyfriend and I had been given extensive sexual health lessons at school but as we were each other's 'firsts,' we didn't really know what to expect. This went on until I was 18, and it was so bad I ended up being rushed to A&E. I thought pain=STDs, and as both of us had been virgins before dating I dismissed it and let it escalate.
...and that's how I ended up with scarred Fallopian tubes at 18. There was no excuse for it really, I had some awareness that sex probably shouldn't be that painful but was horribly embarrassed. I thought there was something wrong with me 'down there' and unfortunately my fear trumped health. Doubly stupid as my mum is super chill and would've figured it out straight away with no qualms.
It did get me tested for other allergies though, and it turns out I'm basically incompatible with everything. Years of miserable GI and skin issues solved when my GP had been refusing to acknowledge them.
Aww. I'm only allergic to a few medicines and latex. Honestly, I figured it out very fast from oral... my mouth went completely numb. I only wish id had that reaction downtown. Unfortunately it wasn't so plessant. It was a quick deduction for me after that point.
Eroe777 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 01:41:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a nurse I once had to explain this to a DOCTOR:
Guy comes in with a festering wound on his thigh where he had been injecting Adderall. Doc debrided it in the ER and sent him to my floor with, among other things, an order for Heparin (blood thinner/anticoagulant) shots every 8 hours. Naturally this gaping wound in his leg keeps bleeding like crazy and is painful as hell. So I call the doc, update him on the patient's condition and request an increase in his pain meds. Doc obliges and then says, almost as an afterthought, 'I wonder why it keeps bleeding?' My reply was something along the lines of 'I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the Heparin you ordered.' He laughed and had me discontinue it.
Heparin is part of almost every admission order set. It's entirely possible he ordered it without even realizing it. One of the (few) downsides to automated order sets and EMR.
Eroe777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of us on the floor raised an eyebrow at the heparin order as it was not a very common admission order in Med-Surg (we mostly saw it in Ortho for patients who had a joint replaced), especially for a patient with an open, freshly debrided wound. I was still a pretty new nurse at that time and was still uncomfortable questioning a doctor's order. Fortunately I had the right combination of snark in my question combined with a very good natured doc.
Heparin prevents blood clots. Being in a hospital and sick and less mobile than usual are all risk factors for developing blood clots, so they order low doses of heparin on basically every admitted patient. Generally it's automatic and you have to specifically change the initial order if you don't want them to have it.
[deleted] ยท 467 points ยท Posted at 20:59:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That last one. It's hard to understand unless you witness it. The infections, the pneumonia, the UTIs and pressure sores. It's just terrible. People just want to keep grandma around longer.
eljo555 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:29:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a physical therapist, our facility was half SNF and half Acute rehab. When the owners (Vibra) saw the profit in LTAC, they demolished the Acute Rehab, did a full remodel for LTAC, a chamber of horrors, that also left our communtiy without an acute rehab facility. LTAC- a money-making scheme for all. I'm a music teacher now.
MsCNO ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:32:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Work in an LTAC. The things I see...heartbreaking
DCromo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:17:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the 'i don't have high blood pressure anymore!'
'what medicine do you take?'
'metopropol'
pylori ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ramipril? oh i just take that to protect my kidneys, i don't actually have high blood pressure, you can see it's normal!
If tubes are the only thing keeping you alive, maybe it's time to consider end of life care.
WoefulMe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:27:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It bothers me that we don't allow euthanasia in the US. We allow pets to be spared from suffering and allowed to die with dignity, but we allow loved ones waste away. It sickens me.
I think the bigger issue is people's inability to let their loved ones go. We don't need euthanasia, we need to celebrate the natural process of death.
Vent support = ventilation support, mechanical assistance for breathing (either via oral intubation or tracheotomy), tube feed is when they cannot swallow so you get your food via a tube that is possibly a direct tube through abdomen into the stomach. If you are on a vent, you cannot swallow therefore need tube feeds. Basically, these are patients who are in bed all day, getting help from a machine to breathe and eat. LTAC facilities are Long Term Acute Care that are a step down from a hospital. These patients are at high risk for infections, pneumonia, and bed sores due to immobility and no natural lung function. These people also cannot talk due to the vent.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:38:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a coder and read charts all day long. As fucked up as it sounds, I cry whenever I read that they've inserted a rectal tube. Here your family member is riddled with PICCs, getting CVVH, on a vent or even ECMO, sternal rubs, etc. and the rectal tube just seems like such an insult to injury at that point. Just let them die with dignity.
A rectal tube is the least of their problems. They can actually be a relief, they promote healing when skin is broken down, and help people rest better because they aren't constantly laying in their stool. It's just draining like any other drain. Obviously not naturally what you want, but it can be of great help to sick people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:16 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I know it's purpose. I just feel like it's just the ultimate humiliation at that point, for me it would be at least I guess
You are obese and its unhealthy. Make lifestyle changes. Don't pay for weight loss medication. Its a patch not a permanent fix.
Vaccines. I mean come on!
This one is iffy..but I feel strongly about it. If you need vent support and tube feed. Consider hospice care after a bit. I have seen patients stuck like this for months and years. Going back and forth between LTAC and hospital. its sad and torture.
Some years ago, I discovered that a 20something year old woman believed that women gave birth from their backsides.
So basically...women shit out their babies.
[deleted] ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 21:40:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and I laugh about the moment during me giving birth to our daughter when I suddenly got very serious looked directly at my husband and said, "Well, I honestly believe I was wrong all these years, the baby does come out your asshole." And then I went back to the hard work of pushing out a kid while my husband died laughing and the nurse assuring me I was not actually pooping out my daughter.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents didn't talk much about sex and child birth, but Dad is a GP so I had a fairly good idea about how things worked. I had a friend whose mom was very open with them (and any kids who were there). She told us having a baby is like shitting out a watermelon, and tbh it confused me for a while!
it's pretty high from what i remember because the urge to push feels exactly like the need to poop. anyone who has anything ready is gonna push it out lol
You'd be surprised how many adult women think this. They aren't told that there are three holes down there. They never stop to think about where urine, blood, and crap comes from and where a dick goes in. Then the baby comes, it feels like it comes from your ass, so apparently babies come from the poop chute just like eggs come from in birds.
bdk1417 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:46:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Joey from Friends has that line.
Ockvil ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a reference to this old commercial. I believe it caused an outcry and FCC regulations were changed so that advertisers couldn't do things like it any more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts0XG6qDIco
When I was in kindergarten, a kid told me milk was cow pee during lunch, and I believed him. Honestly, I think everyone at our table believed him. We continued sipping our milk anyway.
LuxLoser ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 23:00:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father was a dialysis technician and a Nurse for over a decade. Actually had to explain to more than one co-worker where the kidneys are.
Desirai ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:18:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm currently a healthcare student (doing healthcare management) and in my medical terminology and biology classes, I am appalled at the number of hopeful nursing students who cheat their way through the classes.
This makes me very uneasy about going to the doctor. shudder
Desirai ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:38:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is an incredible amount of nursing students who don't give a shit about you. they are 100% there for the money. It makes me sick. I thought about going into nursing, because I legitimately care about people. But I honestly don't have the guts to do some of the things a nurse has to do.
Friend is an MD at a small hospital, he walks into work on the day after Election Day and hears his NP crowing about how President Trump is going to repeal Obamacare. He is stunned and asks what about all our patients who's only form of insurance is the Affordable Care Act? Her response was that she was talking about Obamacare, not the ACA...
TaedW ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 00:22:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I was one of those patients. I had an ear infection, so I went to the doctor, who took a look, and quickly diagnosed it, wrote a prescription, and handed it to me.
Doctor: It's just an ear infection, so 4 drops of this daily should clear it right up.
Me: [Reading the prescription, and seeing the name of the antibiotic would be pronounced "oral-ine".][Completely seriously.] Aurelian? So, I put the drops in my mouth?
Doctor: [Quizzically.] No, no, no, you put it in your ear!
Me: Oh, I read the name, and "Aurelian" sounds like something you'd take orally.
Doctor: Nope, in the ear.
Me: [Remembering my dad joke.] It's a good thing that you didn't prescribe me analgesics.
The doctor had no reaction, just said their deadpan goodbye and left. I've wondered if they didn't get it, didn't think it was funny, or had heard it hundreds of times before.
[I posted this years ago to no significant reaction. I assure you that it's a true story.]
To make matters worse, a LOT of docs cursive A's look like O's
TaedW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:30 on March 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but it was a verbal interaction (even though I said that I read it), so "aural" sounds like "oral". That must also end up with a fair amount of confusing interactions in the sex trade.
The doctor had no sense of humor, lol.. I liked the anal joke!
Kittehluh ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 01:17:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's unfortunate that I am late to the party & my comment will never be seen.
I will still attempt though.
I will start off by stating I am not a doctor but I do work at a doctors office.
So a person came in with conjunctivitis. They proceeded to ask questions on how it was transmitted. With the most serious look on their face, they asked if it was contagious and can be passed on by glare.
While this is hilarious, take a minute to think, WHAT IF ANYTHING WAS CONTAGIOUS BY GLARE. That would be so god damn frightening...
My mother actually told my sister & me that we could get pink eye from looking at someone who had it. It was her way of making sure we didn't touch them to transmit the bacteria. To this day I avert my gaze if someone has pink eye, even though I know it's a load of crap. I'm 23.
My dad's 60 year old friend went to a vet with his dog. The doctor said come back the next day with stool. He came back with a bar stool from his kitchen
This thread is seriously making me wonder why doctors even have fancy medical words that they use when talking to patients.
"come back next day with stool" Who even says that? I'm 25 and never really looked it up, I'm not even certain if that's specifically piss or shit, or either. I looked it up now though, it's shit.
"are you sexually active" You're literally already saying sex. Don't wrap it in -ually active. Do you have sex? Message got across. If still confused, ask if they fuck. "Oh no I'm not sexually active, I just lay there"
"take these pills" A good portion of this thread is "I shoved birth control pills up my vagina why am I pregnant". Why not just 'eat one of these pills every morning'. Omf. People know how to eat. Put it in your mouth and swallow.
"Your bone is fractured" Well is it broken? Fractured...? Is it split in half? Fractured sounds like a leaking bucket, and not a bucket that split in half. Words like broken or cracked seem like much better alternatives.
Well, admittedly, using the word "stool" as a reference to solid waste is pretty bizarre. The word has a long lineageโGerman, Frisian, Norse and Lithuanianโwherein it has always described a chair. And, on top of that, it also means chair in English.
It's bad enough that those of us in the layman's world have to deal with this lingual ridiculousness; technical fieldsโlike medicineโare much more susceptible to harm from the double meaning.
Especially while words such as "excrement", "feces" or even just "poop" are more readily understood without ambiguity.
A classmate during med school thought, for some reason, she could become pregnant from dry humping...fully clothed. As in both of them grinding their bits while in jeans was a risky situation. She was exceedingly "book smart", but apparently lacked sense. I haven't seen her in years, but I'm hoping she figured that one out before providing sexual education to adolescents.
geodebug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously not that risky but I guess if they kept grinding after he came some of his semen could theoretically be pushed through all the clothing and make contact with her pubic area. Even then it would be quite a feat for it to swim up to the right place.
I mean several of the swimmers would have to make it through his undies, his outerwear, her outerwear, her undies, in to the vag and then make the arduous trek to the egg on one of the few plausible days to get preggers. I'm sure there's some astronomical chance, but come on. Haha
Polar87 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In high school we had a teacher who looked like she had been dead 6 months already. She was about 80 and chain smoked, and I mean she would literally sometimes take TWO smoke breaks during a 45 minute class period. Oh, and she was also on an oxygen tank that she carried around. People would take bets on when she would blow up.
One of my friends (27 years old) thought you were supposed to leave your tampon in the plastic applicator...I don't know the proper name. She couldn't understand why the tampon kept falling out and chalked it up to her having a loose vagina. I had to pretty much give her the talk
When my wife and I were trying for a baby I went to get a sperm count. While sitting in the waiting room a man who didn't speak English went to check in. The nurse called the translation line and put it on speakerphone so the whole lobby could hear. As they are going through the questions the came to "when was the last time you ejaculated". The professional interpreter didn't know what ejaculated means and the nurse fumbled around explaining it for five minutes before just finally saving when did he cum last
jem77v ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:43:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Young woman came to see us in the ER with her mother with abdominal pain. Very difficult to get a decent history from her. We did a few tests which were unremarkable but she was obviously in a bit of pain. While her mother went to move the car I asked her a few more sensitive questions.
Turns out she'd had sex the day before and the guys condom had come off but not out. Unable to extract it herself she turned to her best friend for advice who turned out to have the solution.
She ultimately settled on buying a 1 L bottle of Coke, shaking it up and opening the lid as she inserted it down below. The idea being the eruption of soda should be enough to flush the culprit out. All that ended up happening was she gave herself peritonitis and earned herself a day or two in hospital.
The condom I managed to recover after a brief search.
When I explained what was happening she didn't seem convinced. "But isn't that just the same as a guy cumming inside you, how come I don't get pain then?"
I pretty much left it at that.
rigsta ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:57:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1 L bottle of Coke, shaking it up and opening the lid as she inserted it down below.
isn't that just the same as a guy cumming inside you
Damn son no wonder the condom came off.
Alternate response: One of those things is supposed to go in there, the other is not.
I have a friend who, whilst training as a doctor, did a stint in gynaecology/family planning, etc
They had a couple in, who had been trying for over a year to get pregnant, to no avail. He and the consultant worked for a bit, asking several questions.
"When you ejaculate, are you sure it's going inside of her?"
"No, it just doesn't seem to stay in. It goes everywhere."
"...What do you mean?"
"Uh, well, it ends up all over her tummy"
Turns out he'd been shooting his load in her belly button.
So I'm just a pharmacy technician but we once had a patient (40 years old) return to the pharmacy after being prescribed suppositories. She was complaining about how bad the pain was when trying to use the suppositories, after much deliberation with the pharmacist we figured out that she had not removed the foil wrapper that has sharp edges.
There was the patient who called asking for a different medicine for his constipation because the suppositories were not helping, and it was a lot of work to get the wax out of his teeth.
EMT - had to explain to a patient that the reason their heart was racing was due to drinking 6 red bulls in 10 minutes. They were a health science major about to graduate.
Degru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, I can drink 1000mg of caffeine in a sitting with no issues. I once drank 1700mg and only felt a little sick.
Not sure if I can do that now, because I've been trying to drink less coffee lately.
Then there's my little brother who found the stash of energy drink powder and thought they were just regular drink mix. Drank 3 at once and started puking.
Corey307 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:53:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might not feel it but that's an unsafe dose. High blood pressure, atrial fibrillation, not fun.
Degru ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm cutting down drastically.
Found that espresso gives me energy a lot better, with way less caffeine compared to brewed coffee. So espresso to wake up in the morning, and green tea throughout the day, and I'm doing fine.
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good times, I've done something similar to cut back. Black tea and the occasional Diet Coke.
rigsta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's mum works with couples sort of at the first stage of infertility treatment. She tells this story about a young couple, from quite a strict religious background who came in for treatment as they had been married for a year and had been unable to conceive. She had almost finished asking the questions, and after a few quite innocent responses to questions, asked if they had actually had sex.... And they hadn't. Bless them, no one had ever explained it to them! So she had to give them a quick sex Ed class and send them on their way
adalida ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Legitimately, I wonder if one of them was gay. I feel like natural instincts would entice you into sex with your spouse (who you presumably liked and slept next to every night for a year) if you were straight.
I had a mom call our triage line because her 1 year old daughter had been diagnosed with an ear infection and she was concerned that the doctor prescribed an "overdose" of antibiotic.
I pulled up the record and her daughter had indeed been seen in the office the day before, diagnosed with an ear infection, and given a prescription for amoxicillin suspension (the kind that's bright pink and tastes like bubblegum), 2 teaspoons twice a day.
I explained that this looked like a perfectly reasonable dose for an ear infection.
She said "but 2 teaspoons doesn't even fit in her ear!!!"
I had to ask to put her on hold for a minute so I could figure out whether I wanted to laugh or cry.
Yeah....I never found out what happened after the fact, but I can only imagine she got an outer ear infection to match the inner one after having all that sugary medication poured into it....
Tantes ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:12:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient comes in. Chief complaint: tongue irritation after consumption of spicy foods.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a possible melena just to find out he'd been eating beets he got out of his garden for a week.
Internal medicine resident here. I definitely have a few that come to mind. One was a patient with congestive heart failure. We were fluid restricting him (less than 1.5L total fluid per 24 hours) and he was also on fairly high dose IV diuretics. Other investigations were pretty unremarkable. Despite treatment he was still pretty fluid overloaded. We double checked his intake and he didn't seem to be taking in more than what we wanted. Then I went to see him one afternoon and he had a half empty 2L bottle of Pepsi on his table. Turns out he drinks one of those daily but didn't count it as fluid because it wasn't water. Somehow he had flown under the radar with this Pepsi habit on the ward...
Also saw a lady once with abdominal pain. She previously had her gallbladder removed decades before. When I was talking to her she asked if it could be her gallbladder. I was confused because I knew she had it out - she had the scar and clips on her x ray. She said, "Well that was thirty years ago, couldn't it have grown back by now?" No, gallbladders are not like starfish... once it's gone, it's gone.
Not me, but my attending. We were out for coffee and he told me how, when he was a resident, he saw a patient with oropharyngeal petechiae in the ER. He called his attending and described what he saw, and his attending said something like "no worries, that's just BJT".
Apparently none of the doctors at the time knew BJT stood for blow job trauma. I guess explaining that to a bunch of ER residents must've been interesting.
Learned about that one after reporting the physical exam findings of my adolescent patient to my attending. He had a good laugh, but was nice about it.
Small spots caused by broken blood vessels in the mouth and throat. Be gentle, fellas!
jcsunag ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:18:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today: admitted an alcoholic woman. She wanted to quit drinking, so she had been inducing vomiting to get the alcohol out of her system. (Not uncommon)
She induced vomiting by quickly chugging cheap whiskey - because she knew that would make her puke. She did this for 24 hours before coming in. (Not common)
Diatzen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So to quit she drank more?
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 11:57:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in a pain clinic. In an attempt to combat prescription drug abuse the doctor would sometimes prescribe medicated cream to rub on the sore spots.
I would listen to the nurses go through how to apply this cream... and its literally, just rub the cream on the sore spots.... and the patient would nod and take it home.
About one in ten would demand an early follow up visit because "the cream tastes bad"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries! In the USA, a lot of the heavy duty medications (codine, morphine, hydromorphone, etc) are pretty heavily controlled, since they are addictive, and have a street value. And can be fatal when abused. That kind of thing.
So patients who have longterm and or chronic pain that doesn't seem to be helped by normal, less addictive medications, often get sent to the specialists, who know a lot about pain and the heavy duty meds. If a patient needs the controlled substances, they often can't get long term prescriptions from their regular doctor (I think; this isn;t me quoting law or anything)
So you have people in genuine pain, people questionably in pain, people addicted to pain meds who may or may not be hurting, and outright junkies and scammers and terrible human beings. This is where all the jokes from 'pee in the cup' come from; as its a quick way to semi-accurately test what drugs are in a patient's system.
You know how there are doctors that specify in cardiac issues while others are OBYGYNs? Well, there are doctors that specify in pain management. So pain clinics would be where people with chronic pain issues go to find some relief.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pain Management is why you go to see pain clinicians.
It's an American thing, basically if you want prescription strength opaites you go in and say doctor my back is hurting wink wink. Then you get hooked up with drugs that you can do or sell for profit. Go American healthcare
aksume ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im not a doctor, but a patient couldn't understand why he had to have his blood drawn in the emergency room when he was having chest pain and why I couldn't just use the blood we had drawn there 3 months prior.. even after explaining, I still don't think he understood that his old blood, that had been away from his body for a quarter of a year, would not tell us what was wrong with him.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:11:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A female told me that she was high risk for prostate cancer because her father had it.
Far too many people think CPR is like the movies. Too often I have conversations with sick, elderly people who really aren't doing well. People come in with cancer that's spread through their body, without an ability to treat it, and when we ask them if they would want CPR, they say yes, do everything. It's hard for them to conceptualise that after your heart stops, it's a big insult to the system that's hard enough to recover from. Having your ribs cracked, the pain, and then needing to be put on a ventilator, make it even worse. Rarely do people survive, let alone return to a similar level of function. Even after explaining it, they still want everything done. I'm shocked people would want to suffer like that.
Corey307 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:38:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. So many people think CPR can save a patient who has suffered cardiac arrest from trauma or simply died of old age. There is zero point in beating on a corpse, if their heart stopped from a massive car wreck, gun shot etc it's trauma to the heart and there's nothing to be done. Same for the elderly, even if we get you back you're at best a vegatable or dead tomorrow.
Sadly, it's not surprising anymore, but was very surprising at the time.
Patient: I cannot go home with this drain
Me: You just have to empty it twice a day and clip it to your clothes like you have been for the past 4 days
Patient: No, I am staying here until the drain comes out
Me: We cannot keep you in the hospital just so a nurse can empty the drain for you
Patient: I'm not leaving. I'm not medical. I can't be expected to do this.
Me: Insurance will not cover your stay just for the drain
Patient: I don't care, I have Medicaid, so I don't pay for anything anyway
I was on Medicaid as a kid (disability) and would never think to want to stay in the hospital over a drain. Hell, I learned to work a nebulizer because my doctor said I could go home if I could show I knew how to do my own breathing treatments.
Only thing that ever made me WANT to stay in the hospital was a case of pneumonia and my doctor went pale when I told him I'd like to stay instead of going home. Apparently that was a bad sign?
Sadly this one hits pretty close to home. When i was in the fourth grade or so i complained to my (single) dad that my breasts hurt. I was like nine so they were just getting started.
My father freaks out rushes me to our family physician insisting something is terribly wrong. Nope just 'developing into a woman'. Poor dad he tries.
Aw maan. XD At least he clearly cares about you even if he knows jack shit about how your body works.
the0_o ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 03:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So once again, am not a doc (kinda) but here is another tale.
I was a active duty corpsman stationed with the Marines on the lovely island of Okinawa. Now for some reason the military wanted a male to female ratio of 10000:0.1 on this tiny island, hours away from anything with locals that hated the idea of us deflowering their kin, leaving a lot of guys to ease the stress of blue balls all over the backs of a hooker or the local barracks broad. Now some female marines took this as a blessing, scoring dudes league's above them, with some ending in nasty marriages and worst divorces. Some sold themselves on the side making a ton of cash but most were just like one of the dudes, looking for a nsa good time.
One of the units we worked with had the only females enlisted members on base (3 out of 1700 military members). That unit had a dedicated corpsman who was rotated every 6 months. During a rather deployment heavy season, said unit corpsman was due to leave the island and we were short on replacements. So HQ made us take his patients "temporarily". This lead to a rather enjoyable shitstorm.
I was going through the patients records, in a effort to see what injuries or illness was common among them when i noticed a strange pattern. About every 6-10 weeks or so someone had symptoms of gonorrhea. These patients would report in, get shots/meds then be fine for a few weeks then return. This pattern was present in about a dozen male marines. Using a hookup, I get a health and comfort inspection on the books (think of a floor to ceilings, open locker, tearing through your shit inspection) to try to get some more clues. During the inspection, two of the female marines hinted that maybe we should check Sarah's room. Sarah was a short and very busty woman who was 1/3 of the base females and the only one with her own room which happen to be on a separate floor from the males near an exit in a near empty barracks (females on the third floor with males taking up most of the first and a few rooms on the second).
Sarah's room was impeccable, nothing was out of place. Her uniforms were ironed and hung up in protective plastic liners, her workbooks neatly lined up on the bookshelf and the 90 plus condoms, several dildos, strapons and lube was arranged by size, color and frequency of use. When questioned she stated that she just enjoyed having sex. I marked her name down and headed back to the clinic and waited.
2 days later a marine came in complaining of the usually shit (painful urination, foul smell, blah) so i start digging. Turns out he turned 21 and had a barracks party that lead to him scoring with Sarah. Cool, treated and released. 2 weeks later, i had another, then another, then another. All with the same story. Sarah, fucking, huge tits, some kinks but all swore that they used a condom. After marine number 9 and some pressure, I got sarah in my office.
Me: ok am going to be blunt, when was the last time you got tested for an std?
Sarah : never
Me: how sexual active are you?
Sarah : very.
Me: numbers please.
Sarah : 12 times a week with various partners.
Me: ok I need names, you may be the source of the gonorrhea outbreak.
Sarah: I cant be, you treated them.
Me: yeah.... but i didn't treat you.
Sarah : but they are supposed to past the medication on to me when we have sex.
Me: what?
Sarah : (Smugly) thats what happens.
Me: (playing along) how does this happen when they are wearing condoms?
Sarah : after they cum, i take off the condom, pour the jizz on my breasts and stick their dicks back in me. I get my kink and the treatment without the risk of pregnancy.
Me: dear god.....
This is how i ended up giving a very detailed "birds and the bees" talk to about 40 adults with a workshop on stds and proper condom use.
Corpsmen (and medics in the other branches) are amazing. Thank you.
rigsta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:42:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you may be the source of the gonorrhea outbreak.
Sarah: I cant be, you treated them.
That's wrong on so many levels :|
furriosa ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:00:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but had a friend who got had three unplanned pregnancies in quick succession. I asked her if she was using birth control and she replied "yes, but not religiously". She thought that as long as she took her pill on time on days when she was having sex that she would be fine.
I can't tell you how frustrating it is that the 1% of stupid homeschoolers ruin it for the rest of us.
furriosa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously there was more than just homeschooling at play. We also went to a very sexually repressive (and ironically sexually obsessed) fundamentalist church. My friend was homeschooled because her mom and step dad were very creationist heavy and wanted to make sure that they were raised with full spiritual teachings.
The Church I went to was interesting. Very conservative, young earth, hardline anti abortion, anti gay marriage, etc. But super welcoming to everyone. Actually put into practice the whole hate the sin love the sinner thing. Rather than hate young women dealing with unplanned pregnancies and considering terminating several of the ladies (some of whom had had abortions when they were younger) ran a charity to help educate mothers and help them take care of the baby if they decided to keep it, and help them put the baby up for adoption if they didn't want to, or couldn't, take care of the baby. Did tons of mission work helping out in the community and elsewhere. Rather than saying stuff like, "Hey gay guy ur a phag burn in hell", they would say "Hey man want to come to church with me? We are gonna have lunch after. Oh don't what to? Ok man see you on Monday!
And on the homeschooling side of things I was raised creationist but I learned both views. I was never exposed to only one side of any issue. Where my parents stood on an issue was clear, but I was encouraged to make my own opinions. So I share a large portion of my views with my parents but I differ with them on a fair number. On the sex issue I was obv told that abstinence was the way to go but I did learn about contraceptives and safe sex.
TIAT323 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not medicine but mental health.
The amount of times parents will leave out super important information when we ask them a question. For example 'Has little Timmy had any significant life events in the last few years that might have had an effect on his mental health?' 'No'. An hour later they tell us they've been abused, bullied, lost close family members and a whole bunch of really life changing traumatic stuff recently. They didn't tell us that when we asked the question because they didn't think it was important.
Honestly the amount of times you have to explain to a grown adult why really obviously terrible/abusive behaviour on their part might be the reason their child is acutely unwell is staggering. The amount of people who are really not fit to be parents is shocking, holy shit. Parenting and healthy relationships need to be taught in schools for real.
I'm not a doctor, however, my mother is and as I've grown up I've gotten to hear some of the best stories from her and her co-workers who are also gynecologists (doctors of women and their parts).
One of my favorites comes from one of her co-worker's patients. This is all a true story:
His patient comes in because she (the patient) is complaining of symptoms that are similar to pregnancy. The doctor was going through his pre screen "checks" if you will and asks if the woman is sexually active. The young woman stated that she was not, so obviously the doctor was perplexed and concerned at what the problem could be if she was showing signs of pregnancy; but not pregnant.
So they run a bunch of tests on the young woman and lo and behold, she's pregnant. The doctor goes back in to ask her about how this could be possible as she clearly told him that she "wasn't sexually active."
Once he asked her how this could be possible, she stated "well I'm not, I just lay there."
I've never asked what happened next because we are always laughing too hard by the time we get to this part. However, I would imagine he then had to discuss how pregnancy/safe sex/and even how sex works.
Your story is great! But, the phrase is, lo and behold. This is a common enough mistake and knowing the difference will better your story-telling skills.
rigsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol. I imagine the silly woman saw an ad that said "sexually active will get you pregs!" so during sex she just lay there. her BF: Why r u just laying there??? She: so I won't get pregs!!! BF: oh ok doodles
I know the guy and there is no way he is creative/funny enough to come up with this. But either way, it's given us a lot of laughs at parties and social events.
wiaams ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:59:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with a woman who's been dieting for the two years I've known her, to no avail. During a luncheon one day, she decided to forgo the carrots in favor of crackers because "carbs."
I was speechless.
DrSnips ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:40:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw a 78 year old lady in endocrine clinic for weight gain. She tells me she has gained 50 lbs to the point she now weighs 170 lbs. I ask when this started. She says, "Well, I used to weigh 120 lbs when I was a teenager and I've been gaining the weight since then".
"Patient said she started an antihistamine and that she now believes she is now pregnant because of the medication. Had to explain how this isn't possible and she wouldn't believe me so we did a pregnancy test... It was negative. She called two days later to let us know she started her menstrual cycle."
Edit: "another patient couldn't understand why he had blood in his urine and painful urination. the gf then informed us that he put unsharpened pencils in his urethra to help him get hard. We had to inform him that that was the cause of his issues and send him to urology."
Idk tbh. I'm just amazed they function in any capacity. The older I get the more stupidity I see and it only solidifies my belief that it is the intelligent minorities duty to keep the rest alive. Be it for money or a feeling of obligation we keep protecting them from themselves.
[deleted] ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 23:29:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I want to link a story I read about.
Woman didn't know that she was using her urethra for sex and still had an intact hymen after decades of marriage and sex.
That actually makes some sense given that she had a microperforate hymen. The vaginal canal is functionally blocked from penile penetration and she knew that the D was supposed to go into a hole down there, so why not go with the only one available? That said, I would understand if she didn't like sex very much.
toadlyfe ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:51:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never recoiled from a post so fast
taveren4 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been an hour since I saw it, but I'm still shuddering
[deleted] ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 00:40:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but worked as a nurses aide and studied healthcare.
I have heard people say:
-vaccines intentionally cause cancer so that the pharmaceutical companies can make more money.
-if you use any form of birth control including a condom, even once, it messes up a females reproductive system to the point that they can never have children.
-praying at church instead of going to the hospital will cure cancer and cause new organs to grow inside people with organ failure.
-praying at church instead of going to the hospital will cure cancer and cause new organs to grow inside people with organ failure.
Pretty sure this does not work. However, when my cousin prayed for a kidney donor for her son, a man who was in the hospital chapel with her offered to get tested. He was a match, but that wasn't the strangest part.
Turns out he had three functional kidneys. o.O
He didn't know he had an extra, but now he has two and my cousin's son has one. I guess the lesson is, pray because its possible someone else praying has an extra organ they are willing to part with for your sick child. But be prepared to let the guy be an honorary uncle to your kid for the rest of his life because the guy gave your kid an internal organ.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:26:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still believed in modern medicine enough to go through with a transplant though.
Oh hell yes. They are Christians and pray a lot, but they are also big fans of modern medicine. Its why they have three live kids instead of three dead ones. (One had to have a transplant, one had a case of pneumonia that was nearly fatal and one was exposed to whooping cough but didn't get it because she was vaccinated against it. Technically no way to know if she would've ended up with it had she not been vaccinated, but she was and she didn't get it so yay for modern medicine.)
Cousin and her husband left a church when the minister went weird and anti-medicine. They can't be convinced that a loving God would put medicines in the world and not want sick people to use them.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it was a church I tried going to once. The pastor went on a whole thing how all you need is god instead of modern medicine and god would bless you if you have money you would have spent on modern medicine and gave it to the church. I was so disgusted I never went back again. It made me always nervous when someone says they'll pray on an illness now.
rexmus1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
frantically Googling extra kidneys
jynnjynn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:47:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-if you use any form of birth control including a condom, even once, it messes up a females reproductive system to the point that they can never have children.
I wish..
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:00:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a female that was raised that her main purpose in life was reproduction, that genuinely terrified the poor girl. She was also taught that women were meant to give pleasure and serve their husband. She had two kids by the time she was 16. She also had never learned about consent and when she explained the situation to me, she basically had been raped by an older family friend.
EmilyVS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:36 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SAME.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:33:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We need a more scientific literate society." How are we going to get to this?
The depressing thing is, what the trump-fuck has demonstrated is that facts and truth for the mass population no longer exists.
Reading these posts just reinforces this.
I'm 62 - I'm selling up and moving to a small rural town in Australia - let the fuckwads do what they want.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I completely agree. All Trump has done is prove to me how fucking stupid and gullible so many people are. "He understands."
Really, this fucking billionaire that bankrupt his businesses and other people gives a rats ass about middle class, blue collar white America? He laughs at anyone not rich and famous. He doesn't give a fuck if your job is being threatened by automation or if your healthcare premiums are rising.
I was told this story by a community health educator in rural South Africa as a cautionary tale on clear communication. A wife comes to one of their seminars where they showed how to use protection. She comes back several months later furious, saying she used a condom properly and still got pregnant. When they asked how she had used it, she said "Just like you showed us! I put the condom on a broom handle before having sex."
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:31:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a 28 yr old morbidly obese female with knee pain secondary to osteoarthritis. I walk in to evaluate her (it's about 10 am) and she is eating a meatball hero with a liter of root beer. I counsel her about reducing her body habitus to slow the progression of the arthritis. After reviewing with her everything we discussed and the importance of eating healthy options, she endorses that the meatball hero probably wasn't a good option especially since she had eaten the exact same thing for breakfast the day before. :(
jjpdog ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 09:06:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sister in law is a nurse. Old lady asked her why there was pumpkin smeared all over her bed. SIL said, "That's not pumpkin, that's your shit." Old woman replies, "How do you know, you didn't taste it."
I'm not a doctor, but I have to share this.
A colleague of mine came to me with a complaint that she had been feeling pain and burning in her vagina and there was a smell emitting from it as well. According to her this happened often.
I asked her if she had been using fragranced soap to wash it and maybe that's what's causing the irritation. That's when I discovered she had no idea about vaginal hygiene. Turns out she didn't know she had to clean her vagina. No one has ever taught her how to wash herself.
She was 24 at the time.
Edit: Vulva, guys. It's vulva. But you get where I was going. She doesn't clean herself, period.
To rinse a vagina you just cup your hand underneath to collect the shower water and shoot it up there, kinda like rinsing your mouth out. The topic hasn't come up often with my friends but that's how myself and at least two other ladies clean a vagina. But, no don't put soap up there!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't Put water IN there either! This is incredibly drying and can cause a lot of irritation. Just wash the outside!
I mean, yeah, that's exactly how to do it. But my point is that if you put soap inside your vagina, there's no way that method of rinsing it would actually get all the soap out.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:58:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a thread here a few days ago where some idiot chemically roasted his cock wanking with floral hand soap. I'm not sure why I'm telling you this, but there you go...
You shouldn't really use soap around the vulva at all, because it's very easy for soap to get in/around the vagina even if you're being careful. I would advise against soap entirely around the vulva, water works just fine.
They make special vagina soap. It's supposed to be like for super sensitive skin. Also, I have to tell teenaged girls that they should not douche daily...Or at all. If something seems off down there see a Dr.
As a female, it's just wash the vulva and clean the flaps of any secretion/mucus/smegma. That's kind of...basic instinct? How did she not clean an area of her body?
Gramage ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 23:05:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of people who think you can't clean your dick properly if you aren't circumcised. It's really not difficult.
I don't think people think you can't, I think people just don't
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 01:08:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you explain that circimcising men is proven to limit the transmission of STDs?
Gramage ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:48:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same way the lady mentioned above didn't know she was supposed to clean her vag. People are stupid, or at least uneducated. Parents don't want to talk to their kids about this stuff because its an awkward conversation, and it barely gets covered in school. Hell some parents won't even let their kids attend sex ed class for religious reasons.
I've always hated the cleanliness argument. It's like arguing that my hair would be cleaner if I was bald. Or, a more extreme example: You'll never get lung cancer if you remove your lungs!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:48:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your analogies break down.
Very few people die from dirty hair. And people would die without their lungs.
Gramage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:55:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, but my point stands. Would you cut off a piece of your body because it might get dirty if you don't clean it properly? Or would you rather just learn how to clean it? My big problem is that this decision is made before the boy is even old enough to know what's going on. I find the whole concept barbaric.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On an individual level I'd agree with you. On a public policy level I'm not so sure.
And when I consider the places I put my dick when I was younger, I'm not sure I would've been better off uncircumcised. Especially since I was in the habit of passing out afterward.
Never assume people are perfect. Always assume they're monkeys. Because we all act like monkeys sometimes.
Gramage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:12:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it should be public policy to mutilate baby boys because they might be irresponsible with their dicks? Or don't you think education should be the first priority? I sure do.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or we could leave the decision up to the parents. I wouldn't be comfortable banning a procedure on principle, when it could save someone's life.
If I was a country where STDs were a big public health problem, I might even go so far as to encourage parents to circumcise.
Gramage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still have to disagree. Nobody else, not even my parents, should be allowed to decide which body parts I keep or don't keep unless I am at certain risk of dying and am still incapable of making my own decisions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So parents cant have a dentist remove an impacted tooth? Or a doctor an ingrown toenail? Tonsils?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:44:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet AIDS does too.
It's almost like people are imperfect.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:39:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! You'd be surprised at how many women don't clean their vulvas well. In my obgyn rotation, I met a gynaecologist who keeps a decently sized handheld mirror in her cabinet so that she can show women what their uncleaned vulvas looked like. Does the trick well, apparently.
Ah, clearly you possess a lobe in your brain that is utterly absent from the brains of so, so many teenage males. Also humans of all sorts, but teenage males do seem to be the worst offenders, at least in this society.
punknil ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:59:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a pretty strong backlash about douching now that women are correctly taught that douching can be very harmful, and at the least is unnecessary - which is great because so many women still practice it due to misinformation . But I've seen in relevant discussions a lot of confusion about what the vulva is versus the vagina, and how one can be cleaned and the other shouldn't be. The adamant "you never put soap in your vagina!!" comments seem to have led to a paranoia about cleaning down there.
Sometimes people grow up thinking it's "gross" to touch your genitals or butthole, even to clean them in the shower. When I was a kid, I believed this (because I'd been repeatedly yelled at for touching my vulva outside of the shower) and would just run water over those parts instead of cleaning properly. It didn't help that my parents had me wear a bathing suit when they taught me how to shower.
It wasn't like I was taught to do this or anything, it just feels disgusting if I don't do this. Esp period time. Ughhhh I feel the disgust thinking what hers was like during that. My condolences to her sexual partners...
I only found out a few years ago that soap was actually bad for my lady garden, I had always avoided using it because I thought the soap would get stuck, somehow rot and start an infection, so I just washed vigorously with water. Turns out I was right to do so, but not for the right reasons.
Vagina, the internal organ, is self-cleaning. The vulva, which is the external area including labia minor a and major a and clients, need to be cleaned. With soap.
Soap on/around my vulva has always caused infections for me. I rinse well with water, morning and night, and have never had any complaints/any gross smells/anything.
Some women can't tolerate soap on their vulvas, but most women are fine with any gentle soap that isn't heavily fragranced. The notion that ALL women should never use soap on their vulvas is a recently popular idea that isn't actually backed up by any large health authority's recommendations. (Seriously. Go find a source that isn't, you know, Buzzfeed or some health magazine.) It's just a weird myth that gets haughtily thrown around on the internet by people who don't know what they're talking about.
Just water doesn't get the discharge off the hair growing from my vulva. I use my normal soap.
But I don't even put water in my vagina.
ZeeiMoss ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use summers eve wipes. Its the only thing Ive found to not irritate me. I usually only use after sex if its very messy and while on my period if I need a little wash here and there. My bf lives with his parents still and in their shower is "lemisol." I thought, "thats absolutely absurd." One day I tried it....got an infection instantly. Yep. I honestly dont know why I used it but my knowledge has thus been confirmed. AND DOUCHING...How could women douche? I see those in the bathroom garbage bag at their house too. Bunch of idiots there.
I had a colleague with the opposite problem... she kept continually getting thrush, knowing that she is a bit of a clean freak I asked if she is over washing, turns out she was throughly soaping, scrubbing and rinsing her vayjayjay every day - this is terrible for the vagina! I had to explain that it has its own ecosystem which she was upsetting leading to infection.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:16:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made this mistake as an early teen because of abuse from my parents. I still have chronic UTIs now as an adult that started after I began over washing despite having corrected my behaviour long ago.
I used to have chronic UTIs. Have you tried taking D Mannose? Seriously, I take two of those stupid pills after sex and four of them if I start to feel a UTI coming on and I've been UTI free for 3+ years.
Just wanted to share in case you were still on the antibiotics train for UTIs :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reaaaaaaaally? My doctor just gave me some for the first time about 3 weeks ago. I've not been taking it that often because I figured it would be like cranberry and hiprex and ural and everything else that didn't work.
uniptf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You really only need to clean the exterior skin since the vagina is self-cleaning. It could have also been an infection, which may well have been caused by a lack of soap down there, ever.
Massage therapist. She'd been frantically searching for answers all day. She eventually ran into me when she came into the office and asked me wtf was up with her vag. Together we came to a conclusion that it's probably because she didn't know she had to take care of that area :/. We had gone to school and been in business together for a while at that point so I guess she was comfortable talking about her lady problems which was fine with me.
Nackles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder why she waited so long, I can't imagine she never had a problem before. Also, assuming she was washing the rest of her body, she just thought she'd skip that part? That's what I'm having trouble understanding.
I'm not exactly sure what her history was. Not sure if she had infections prior to this. Not sure why she thought she never needed to wash that area. I didn't ask questions. She just rambled on about her problem. I listened.
Bonus story: The way she figured there must have been a problem was the day she walked out of the bathroom as her brother was walking in and he immediately turned around and screamed "what the FUCK is that smell!!" She apologized then admitted it was her vag...
Nackles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy cow, that had to be so embarrassing. I give her credit for actually trying to fix the problem (though now I wonder, why didn't a doctor say anything??)
There's a lot of information about that says that you shouldn't wash your vagina with anything but water, this is completely true but the term vagina can also mean the vulva and such in a non medical/scientific terms.
I wouldn't be surprised if she was told she shouldn't use soap or anything to clean the vagina and didn't know about the vagina/vulva distinction
I had a similar problem growing up in a small southern town with Conservative Christian parents. When I was a young girl my mother told me never to wash the inside of my vagina. However I was maybe four at the time and had no idea that there was even a hole down there. I thought that by vagina cement Vulva and that I wasn't supposed to wash the entire thing at all. Cut to me having a constantly itchy downstairs area and having to take a lots of frequent baths and having constant infections because she never bothered to explain Anatomy to her child because it was icky. I don't think I found out that penetration was actually a thing and that you had a hole down there until I was maybe 12. I literally just thought that men rub their penis up and down the folds of a vulva like they were trying to start a fire with two sticks
Got a little ahead of myself. Was focused on just telling the story.
Both vagina and vulva had issues apparently. The chick was burning and had discharge. She's good now!
Some people must have acidic vaginas or something because I don't do any significant cleaning down there besides wiping in the bathroom and I've never had any issues.
All vaginas are naturally acidic. While I do make sure to rinse it/scrub it a bit in the shower, I have also never had any issues with yeast infections or the like. Apparently our vaginas are just chill af.
This is a story from a friend of mine who is a GP. She'd not been practising long when she had a dude of about 30 come in one day. Pleasant enough guy, absolute average Joe, but said he had an issue with defecating in public restrooms...because he couldn't always carry a tube of lube in his pockets.
Dude had, for the past 15 or so years, been lubing his asshole <i>every time he took a dump</i>, because otherwise he couldn't get it out.
My friend recommended laxatives, and a high fibre diet. All was well.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That no, soaking a tampon in vodka and inserting it up her vagina won't keep it from interacting with her PO (by mouth) anti-anxiety meds.
Well change of shift begins and Lady attempts to leave AMA (against medical advice) and as she packs up an empty fifth of vodka rolls out her purse...
It should be noted that she was too wasted to take her gown off and put her regular clothing on. She passes out on her bed and it's left to me to tidy her up so she does lay in her own blood all night.
Turns out she was on her period, and poor me, a new CNA has never changed a pad or tampon in my life. Well, my nurse laughs and leaves me to it. I then proceed to withdraw vodka infused tampons.
Not one, not two, but three tampons are crammed into her vagina.
At this point I should remind you, I had no experience with tampons, and had no reason to believe 3 wasn't normal. Well, nurse walks in and jokingly asks how things went, I tell her about the vodka infused tampons.
Turns out women are only supposed to use one. Learn something new every day working the medical field.
Tl;dr
Woman learns vodka infused tampons still interact with anti-anxiety meds. I learned how to take tampons out, and that women should only use one at a time.
Not a doctor, medical assistant. Spent a long time on the phone today with a patient who was worried her heart would stop beating and she wouldn't know it.
The number of times that I had to explain to people that antibiotics won't cure the common cold is staggering. It doesn't matter how much medicine they take, it isn't going to cure a virus.
After doing lab work and finally doing a pelvic in the emergency room, having to explain to the patient that using a used makeup sponge as a substitute for a tampon explained all her symptoms. Too bad she didn't tell us from the start.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:30:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So... out of curiosity... what symptoms would one present with if they had put a makeup sponge in their vagina?
She basically had a really bad case of bacterial vaginosis and probably a yeast infection somewhere in there but we just treated the BV. A lot of really smelly yellowish discharge, burning with urination, and itching. I should probably add she left it in there for 2 weeks because she forgot about it.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:58:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me: ok let's feed the baby now she looks hungry
Her: not now I'm tired
Me: reviews risks of not feeding and again encourages her
Her: I really need to nap first she isn't even crying
Me: reiterates why babies need to be fed and offer formula
Her: no I plan to breastfeed exclusively and formula will ruin that
Me: so when do you intend to feed the baby
Her: maybe in a few hours I'm going to eat and take a nap
So she gets to eat but her newborn doesn't. I genuinely felt bad for that baby when I discharged them. That baby did finally get formula when mom decided breastfeeding wasn't for her. On my unit I have a reputation for being the patient nice nurse and frequently get the "difficult" patients. 9 times out of 10 they're totally fine if not a little anxious and just needed someone to be on their level. But this was unreal, went the same for diapers, keeping baby warm, visitors who were sick, wanting to go outside to smoke, etc. I was so don't after those 12 hours. Everything was a battle.
h_odo_r ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 10:56:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a friend of mine...
A woman in her seventies came in for a routine cold, at the end of the appointment the conversation went like this:
Doc: Is there anything else that's been bothering you?
Patient: No... well, actually...
Doc: Go on
Patient: I've had this sort of numbness for a while
Doc: OK... Where and for how long?
Patient: All down my left side. For a year.
Turns out she'd had a decent sized stroke a year ago and hadn't thought to tell anyone.
ccharvat ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:20:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No, it is not appropriate to have intercourse with your girlfriend 15 hours after she vaginally delivered another guy's baby'
toast778 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse, but just wanted to contribute. I worked at a pediatric office and my coworker told me this story. The baby was going to be receiving at home nebulizer treatments so she was teaching the father how to use it. After she was done she asked if he had any questions, and he asked "do I still have to feed and bathe him?". My coworker was stunned.
Had a guy with severe congestive heart failure. Already had some sort of bypass judging by the zipper scar on his chest. Swore UP AND DOWN he ate healthy.
"No salt nurse I promise". I don't eat a lick of it. I just go to Panda Express. I looked at him thinning he was joking.
Nope. The man eats at Panda Express 3 days a week. Then his brother sold him out and said he ate McDonalds that morning.
A 51 year old women in my family didn't know the HPV she had contracted and has been screened for every 6 months for the last 14 years is a sexually transmitted disease or that her cheating husband was the one who gave it to her. I had to spell it out for her and I'm fairly positive she still doesn't understand (or she's just in that much denial ๐)
KvSv ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:05:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to explain to a med student that islands are not in constant motion. ( she couldn't understand how we could find islands so easily if they are floating)
I remember a story about a Admiral interviewed by US congress and the congressman was concerned that the island would sink because the base was too heavy on that side of the island.
Admiral's response, without batting an eye went something like "We've accounted for that problem Congressman and it will not be a issue at all"
Female Patient was compelled to give a urine sample for routine preg test, was provided a free bottle of nice cold water to drink. Bitched and moaned, gagged while drinking it, said she "never drinks water, it has no taste."
Urine again because I deal with a lot of urine. Male patient was compelled to give a urine sample. Sat in the waiting room for an hour drinking iced tea he had brought in, because 'he just went.' Urine sample provided was cold. I'm still not sure if he tried to dilute his urine with cold water like a moron or held some iced tea in his mouth and decided to dilute that with cold water because also a moron. It wasn't even a drug test, it was for a licensing thing where we only check glucose and protein levels to rule out diabetes and kidney issues. GUESS WHO JUST FAILED.
Not a 'story' but my wife is a pediatric NP and some of the conversations people have with her about food are mind blowing. People will consider a donut with strawberry filling s source of fruit and similar.
Can confirm. My granddad needed a quadruple bypass surgery. When the doctor asked him what he ate he said "whopper jr's". The doctor scolds him, tells him he needs to eat vegetables, etc. My granddad gets all pissed off and says to him "Whopper Jr's got vegetables on them! It's like eating a salad!"
Doing home care, I was going over surgical history with an elderly patient who had her daughter present. The patient told me she had a hysterectomy, paused, and then, I kid you not, she asked, "Do I still have a vagina?" Her daughter was MORTIFIED and it took everything in my power to stifle hysterical laughter though I ended up snorting. I tried to give her a simple yet awkward, "Um, yes." And changed the subject as fast as possible.
Not a doctor but a preschool teacher but I think my story fits.
Kiddo walks into class and sees a couple of kids playing with peppa pig. Kiddo starts screaming NO PEPPA PIG NO PEPPA PIG and I, baffled, look at mom for an explanation. She tells me that her husband read an article that said peppa pig causes autism so they don't let him watch the show.
Did I mention mom is a friggen pediatrician?????
Alianth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair maybe she just really didn't want him to watch Peppa Pig. If I could just turn back time....
I thought that too but then I googled peppa pig and autism and there is a satirical article blaming peppa pig for autism. Many people took it as real and ran with it. She's one of them I'm afraid.
My husband HATES Elmo, I'm Shopping with my 2 yr old and a lady in the shop shows him a "tickle me Elmo" toy and asks him "wouldn't you love to have that to take home?" Mr 2 replies, "no, daddy wants to set Elmo on fire!"
Not a doctor, not even close, but I've had a conversation like that. A few months ago I asked my 22 year old friend why he and his girlfriend hadn't had sex yet. They'd been together for a while and didn't seem to have any moral or religious reasons not to and they seemed to want to. He said she was on birth control and asked me if they had sex now and she went off her birth control some time in the distant future could she still get pregnant. I didn't understand the question at first. Turns out he didn't understand that sperm dies after a few days. He was afraid that some day years in the future after they lost touch she may still have his baby. I ended up having the whole sex talk with him. I wasn't sure where his gaps may be so I just covered everything I know. I never realized until then how lucky I am to have had such open and honest parents.
Did you know you can still get pregnant from precum? I thought that was just like the first squirt to drip out all the ketchup water before the real ketchup comes out.
The prevailing research in the past few years has been that actually no, not really. The vast majority of men only have dead sperm in their precum, if any at all (yes there are exceptions, but these guys have been ruled as exceptions and not the norm). The functional exception to this is if you've already ejaculated once very recently (same day kind of thing); then it should be treated with more caution.
I had a guy come into the emergency dept, stank to high heaven, that gangrene foot smell we all become so accustomed to.
I asked "whats the problem?"
- "well doc its my foot, its been bothering me for a while"
The odor from this guys foot could strip paint from walls, i have no idea how he has ignored it, he goes on to explain hes been "dealing" with it, read ignoring, for a few months, to the point that his trainers squelch with PUS when he steps.
"So...why did you finally come in today?"
- "well doc i woke up and realized i only had 9 toes"
"Well.....where did you leave it last time you used it"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Little language distinctions are always funny. I assumed that by "trainers" you meant persons not footwear. As in his personal trainer.
[deleted] ยท 323 points ยท Posted at 23:39:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I would have lost all composure once I put it together. That's just hilarious.
HappaVet ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:47:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Veterinarian, but still had to explain crazy things to people. Having to explain what basic organs do in the body to adults has stopped surprising me. Thus isn't necessarily due to bad education, as I've practiced in some upper middle class suburbs with great education systems. The kidney failure conversation gets a lot longer when you have to explain what a kidney does.
Also, those aren't ticks; male dogs have nipple too. And yes, your male dog can still get an erection after being neutered. No, it is not the testicle "growing back".
Wxxz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:24:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not doctor, but medical professional. I'll try to make this short because I don't like making stories too long so.. person get's gonorrhea, they are embarrassed and don't seek medical advice for 2+ months after signs / symptoms.. look at their schlong, it looks like the stuff you see in /wtf ... so PA prescribes him creams to apply / how to apply / etc. The directions for the cream is apply I believe like once every 3-5 days (2x week). The kid ends up applying it like every day for 2 weeks thinking it will clear up the gonorrhea / skin condition faster and ends up melting his dick off. So now you have a gonorrhea infested genitals as well as extreme acid burns. The PA ends up giving his new weaker cream to the soldiers platoon medic (U.S ARMY) and makes sure the medic gives the soldier the cream at appropriate times since he clearly is incompetent... kid ends up getting kicked out like month later when his obese gonorrhea GF is sleeping with other people in the barracks and panics saying he raped her and all kinds of razzmatazz. Anyhoo if you have any questions, ask, I'll try to respond...
TLDR: Gonorrhea, acid cream... person applies acid cream daily instead of 1-2 times a week, melts dick off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Wxxz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is a nurse. When she worked in a nursing home she had to explain to the medical assistants (who were black) that black and white people were not anatomically different on the inside. To be fair, they were from Baltimore City and the education system there would be considered a joke if it weren't so sad.
I'm not sure exactly what differences they thought were there but she had to show them her nursing books to convince them. (This was pre-internet.)
Working as a urologist there are many stories, but one in particular stands out. An 18-year-old patient with sickle cell presented to the ED with a priapism, something not uncommon in men with this condition. I was consulted to reduce the priapism, which involves placing a small-gauge needle in the patient's penis and withdrawing stagnate blood. After repeated attempts spaced out over several hours, I returned to find the patient laying in his stretcher spooning his girlfriend. No wonder his priapism kept returning. I proceeded to explain to this young man that yes, laying next to your girlfriend while she rubs up on you will indeed cause your priapism to recur. Instead of taking down his priapism once more I thought of a better idea and suggested for the first time in my professional career that a patient have sex in the ED.
My mother was a nurse many years ago. A woman came in to the er with a glass coke bottle stuck in her vagina. She had been masturbating with the bottle and science happened; a vacuum, suction, whatever you call it.
The attending doctor recommended that the patient buy a sex toy instead of using random household objects. Her reply, "I'd be too embarassed to buy one of them."
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no doctor, but as a manager of a restaurant I have to convince otherwise normal and intelligent cooks about burn procedure. Mayonnaise, mustard, cooking oil, butter, milk and raw eggs have all been slathered on the affected area much to my chagrin. And the comment I always use while waiting for them to wash that crap off so I can spray on burn salve (which I show how to use in training) is, do doctors normally store and prescribe mustard? No? Let's try topical analgesic then.
I'm a cook, and the amount of assholes that tell me not to rub eggs, mustard, Mayo, cooking oil, butter and milk on my burns is absurd. I end up having to prove that if I hadn't put all of that stuff on first, their fancy 'burn salvs' wouldn't work. Dummies.
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a combo of old wives tale bullshit and people knowing nothing about first aid.
R2theUNS ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:02:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had to explain to a 22 year old woman that she was getting repeated urinary tract infections because she was wiping her vagina wrong (back to front) after urinating.
She was convinced her apparatus was broken
An RN, not an MD, but had to explain to a family member why their loved one, who was in the middle of a suspected active stroke, couldn't eat or drink. He then proceeded to block the doorway to prevent us from leaving to get the patient down for a stat CT, and demanded we give his family member "food through the IV."
2 separate people came to me with the same question, one had a bird the other had a lizard. Both pets had recently laid eggs and the owners, all excited, asked me "so what do i do now?! Where can I get an incubator?! Is it too late to incubate and the baby will die?!" I asked them if they also have a male mate for their pet. "No..." They respond. "Has your bird/lizard been around a male in the last few months?" "No..." "well then there's no possible way these eggs have been fertilized. She's not the Virginia mary." They look dumbfounded but reply "but then why did she lay eggs???" My response was always "females go through a period of time when they release eggs. It's natural." They never got it.
in terms of masking, every primary care male patient over 50 (and many under 50): doctor I have been feeling more tired lately, I think my blood pressure is too high, I have a slight cough on Tuesdays, etc...15 minutes into interview..oh yeah, I'm most concerned about Erectile Dysfunction
Firemanz ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:34:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I had to tell my wife that pee and babies don't come out of the same hole.
ryan_503 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:45:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An QB/GYN told me about a young married couple that couldn't get pregnant. They were both from very strict Christian families. They hadn't had sex because they didn't know what it was or how to do it. So she had to explain the birds and the bees to them.
There is a disgustingly ridiculous amount of stories like this. Seriously, we're the only species that needs to EXPLAIN sex to its young. Other animals just...know how to do it.
How... how did they think pregnancy happened? How old were they?
ryan_503 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they were 18 or 19. I can only guess their talk about babies never went beyond being told "God will put a baby inside the mommy when she gets married" when they were little. I've heard about people that come into adulthood from very sheltered lives not knowing how women get pregnant.
beeyonca ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is a firefighter and a few years ago he and his coworkers were making wellness checks on some of the local neighborhoods after a pretty big snow storm. Lots of people were using generators to run things and of course plenty of them weren't being housed properly. As in left inside houses with poor ventilation. My dad and his coworkers were yelled at by multiple people for trying to help and suggest they move the generators outside or at the very least open the garage or a freaking window! Nope. Slammed doors constantly and people just throwing the information pamphlets back at them.
Yell through the door "You know you're only making more work for us, because who do you think has to mask up and drag your corpse out of your carbon-monoxide filled house?"
I don't know how my dad did it for so long. He's not very patient in the day to day lol
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CO sinks, so if you have a big drafty basement, and you can't go down the stairs, it may not actually be that big of a deal.
Pogo152 ยท 789 points ยท Posted at 20:27:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an easy mistake to make if you've never experienced a grease fire before and you think "oh I'll put it out with water just like any other fire." All experience leading up to that would have been "water puts out fire".
[deleted] ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 20:35:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 419 points ยท Posted at 21:21:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're on your third grease fire, you're either an arsonist or a Sim learning to cook.
Please, I'd trade out and use the litter box like any civilized homeowner.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:48:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always make my Sims read a cookbook. It may look rather pricey, but it's sure cheaper than having to replace everything every time they set the house on fire. Also, you only need one cookbook for your whole family for the rest of eternity, so it's a one time payment that can save you thousands of dollars in fire damage as time goes on.
Man, the things you miss out on by having a vagina...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:49:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol no, I was just walking through the process using the previous commenter's logic.
Trust me when I say that DOES NOT work. Most of us guys will probably just get rug-burn and crocodile skin.
Peeing on the fire, however, is a whole different story....
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um. Dude here. I'm almost afraid to ask, but what's crocodile skin?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the medical term for it is icthyosis
Basically, if you spank the monkey too frequently and/or too rapidly, it causes the skin to become dry and have a somewhat scaly appearance, which - as you can guess - would be extremely painful. It's kind of like a callous, but more sensitive and without the excessive skin cell growth.
Edit: wording
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gah. Well, I asked. Thanks for the explanation!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! ...and I apologize for any mental imagery that I may have induced.
If I hadn't seen a video on Reddit showing how a grease fire can fuck up badly via water I would have thought water = puts out fire like any other situation.
Why does water and grease become so catastrophic? I know they don't "mix" but what makes it so dangerous?
The water evapourates into steam however since oil and water do not mix the oil is not mixed into the steam and it is thrown into the air with the particles of steam. This increased surface area of combustible grease then ignites.
Grease (and oil) are hydrophobic, (they repel water). Grease/oil are also less dense than water, so they tend to float. Add to that the fact that grease/oil have a higher boiling point than water.
So you have a grease fire. When you add water, the temperature of the grease/oil is so high that it flash-boils the water, causing a steam explosion and sending flaming grease everywhere. Add enough water and you now have a floating fire spreading through the house.
They don't mix, and the temperature of the burning grease causes the water to flash boil and expand rapidly outward as it turns to gas, which flings droplets of burning grease everywhere.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:10:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's why we have education. To not have to reinvent the wheel every time.
Raichu7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:31:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But oil floats on water? Even if you didn't see so many demonstrations of what happens by the fire department that you got bored of the fireballs before you started secondary school thats basic knowledge.
We should teach fire safety more thoroughly in schools, really.
Basilisc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose maybe we need more PSAs then, or it needs to be taught more commonly, I was definitely told that water doesn't work for all fires for most of my life regardless of if I ever saw a grease fire or the like. Don't give people the opportunity to be unaware!
Yup. Was in church once when some plastic leaves caught fire from a candle. So naturally someone tried to blow it out. Which of course only made it spread further. So someone else tried pouring water over it. Just made the floor wet. Eventually someone got the fire extinguisher, but still. Blowing out a fire? I guess because candles...
Honestly if it hadn't been for that one episode of Mythbusters, it wouldn't have occurred to me until I'd tried. It seems obvious when you know though.
Also when you see unexpected fire, unless you're accustomed to it, you panic and don't analyze the situation nearly enough.
I've had a fondue incident where the flammable gel stuff spilled and caused a huge column of fire. Six highly educated and sensible adults at the table all immediately jumped up and ran for water. We all had a jug in hand before someone's brain snapped out of it and stopped us right in time.
My husband had forgotten to empty the grease trap on our grill and it lit one day. His first reaction was to go for the hose. I scared the shit out of him telling him (screaming at him) to turn the damn hose off and ran out with a bag of flour. I swear he's an intelligent man 90% of the time...
delaloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd never heard this before after working six years in restaurants but my first time throwing frozen potatoes into hot oil and the subsequent ceiling high fire--my first instinct was to turn off the burner. It worked that time, but you're not wrong on your ignorance stance. Even the people you think should know probably do not know.
I had a small grease fire in my toaster oven one day. My first instinct was to use water (after I unplugged it). The only reason I caught myself, and instead successfully killed it with some baking soda was because I had recently rewatched Gone in 60 Seconds and there's a scene in the movie where Nicolas Cage uses baking soda to put out a grease fire in the kitchen that GiovannI Ribisi accidentally started while cooking breakfast.
Yeah to be fair I've read this a load of times and I bet my first instinct for fire would still just be water, I wouldn't even think about what type of fire it is. Hopefully I never have to test that theory.
I dunno about that butter thing. My dad tells this story about a friend of his when he was a kid, who burned his hand badly. The lady that looked after the kids slapped some butter on it and bandaged it up, and it didn't even leave a scar!
In cooking class as a child, the teacher told us repeatedly to pour FLOUR over grease fires, as they will smother the flames. So the first time I actually encounter a grease fire, I pour a bunch of flour on it.
Do not do this. Flour will also catch fire. Apparently the correct answer is baking soda. (Or covering it with a metal lid, or using a fire extinguisher, but DEFINITELY NOT FLOUR.)
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:15:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was working at a home improvement store during the winter, and I got a call from a woman asking me if she could light her gas grill in her living room. I told her no, it wasn't safe to do that. Explained to her the possibility of fire or explosion, gas filling the room, her passing out /dying, etc. she starts arguing with me saying that " but it's just a fireplace with wheels isn't it?!" Told her several times she was wrong, and she shouldn't do it, and before she hung up I heard her yell. "He said don't do it!" Still can't believe an adult would be that dumb.
Larky17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I said in another comment, prime natural selection candidates.
broiled ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:27:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you want to watch your house burn down, as you stand there with severe burns.
I had to call the fire department one time, because an electrical fire was starting in a poorly wired outlet. Like , I noticed right as it started. And all I could think was, "shit, I know throwing water on it isn't the right answer, but I have no idea what to do."
It was a shitty rental, so no handy extinguisher. Firemen gave me a few looks of frustration when I also couldn't tell them where the fuse box was, but I learned some stuff that day! Like, step 1, turn off the whole fuse box. Also, that sometimes fuse boxes are set into a wall behind a pull out plastic cover thing, which is why I'd never seen it. I was embarrassed that I didn't know where it was, but I'd never seen the tension spring wall hole covers before.
Would it be safe to assume that if the thing that's burning is wet/liquid, don't add water? Or are there exceptions?
Larky17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flammable liquids, like gas, are better off being extinguished by foam, like what you would find in an extinguisher. However, I wonder how people would feel knowing we mix our water with Dawn Dishwashing soap, instead of some expensive BS.
I have to admit, I've never forgotten that you shouldn't pour water on a grease fire....but I've forgotten what you are specifically supposed to do instead...
I assume that's when you break out the kitchen-specific extinguisher? Perhaps smother it by putting the lid on the pot?
Fun story. My mom told me this story about a friend or relative... honestly I don't remember who it was about, but someone she knew. Said person had heard that if you didn't have a fire extinguisher, baking soda works to put out a grease fire. She had neither, so she poured FLOUR on the fire. Flour is so damn flammable it's not even funny.
What would flour do? I know it absorbs grease but wasn't sure what impact it would have.
Larky17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive never seen flour used in this situation. I heard it works wonders, and I heard it burns really well. From me, I'd say don't use it. If it is your only choice, fuck it. Use it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has to be the right kind of fire extinguisher or you're in trouble. A lid is by far the best idea.
moratnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The local firies have a portable kitchen thing they take around to demonstrate why this is a bad idea (at fairs and the like).
The 15' diameter fireball coming out of a small saucepan makes a solid impression.
immauser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a business law professor in college who was a bankruptcy lawyer, but taught university classes on the side. He was explaining to us the difference between negligence and gross negligence. He told us about a friend of his who owned a house with an extra garage who had a neighbor with a boat and no garage space so she stored his boat. In the spring she was trying to get rid of the weeds around the garage. She put weed killer on them and they didn't instantly die so she figured she'd pour gasoline on them. Surely that'll kill them. Poured gas all along the base of the garage, still no instant death. "Oh I know what'll kill them! I'll light them on fire!" and consequently burned down her entire garage and destroyed the boat. Due to the sheer stupidity of what she did, it was considered gross negligence and she was liable for the boat.
Several years ago my husband started some oil heating on the stove then got distracted, oil caught fire, he couldn't find the big box of baking soda we had on hand for something like this, so he calls 911 (fire chief lives 3 doors down so the fire truck shows up while hubby is still on the phone with 911).
Afterwards, his sister, who was a volunteer firefighter, asked why didn't he put flour on it? I was speechless. The fire chief had plenty to say about that when I told him about it lol.
My friend put a handful of ice in very hot oil "to see what happens".
I, at least, got her to turn off the stove and heckled her as she cleans up the mess.
I work at a fast food place, and last year we had a small grease fire from tongs that had fallen into the fryer and melted to the bottom trap that comes out. It was pulled out and set on a table until it was decided how to deal with the melted plastic. The tongs caught fire and I had to physically stop a manager who'd been working for the company for twenty years from pouring water on it.
My husband has worked in kitchens for 30 years, and last summer he set our stove on fire. It was grease and he kept blowing on it. I calmly pull the box of baking soda out of the cabinet nearby and dump all over the fire. The fire vanishes and my husband is upset about the mess. Apparently every kitchen he's worked in has a grease fire least once a week, and all they do is blow it out and it's gone. Said grease fires are on the flat-top and don't go very far, and if they get big you put a lid on it. He had never in his life heard about baking soda or thought that blowing on the fire would make it go out. Darling, no, you're just SPREADING the grease around and feeding the flames. He was very angry at me for making a big mess all over the stove by dumping the entire fucking box of baking soda.
It's been a year now, and I bring it up regularly when I see him working with cooking oil. He's made a point of being more careful...and having baking soda on the counter just in case he fucks up again.
Larky17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:17 on May 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow...what a blast from the past...
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this lesson when I was about 10. Friends and i lit a snapple bottle full of gasoline on fire, but then we couldn't blow out the flame. We had a 5 gallon bucket of water nearby "just in case", so somebody picked up the snapple bottle and dropped it in the 5 gallon bucket. Gas floats, so then the whole bucket was on fire. Somebody got scared and kicked the bucket over, which lit the entire driveway on fire. Eventually we got it put out by throwing a piece of old carpet on it before any parents saw.
10/10 life experience. Kids should play with fire (literally and metaphorically) to understand how the world works.
Not the doctor, but my pediatrician was a fucking idiot. I couldn't run very far and would get winded from it. Told him I was out of shape, because this man loooooved to diagnose every single breathing problem, even allergies, as asthma. He told me I couldn't be out of shape because I wasn't fat.
I also had/have knee issues that cause problems in my day to day life. My knees would lock in place and pop out of socket frequently as a child, starting as young as 4. He told me all those problems would be fixed if I stopped sitting on my knees/crosslegged. Now days, at 19, I can't be on my feet for more than 10 minutes without being in pain. We think I don't have cartilage in my knees, which could have been easily checked for when I was a child and could afford it.
I also remember him roughly scraping a chunk of bloody wax off of my ear drum. My ears don't drain properly, so him manually scraping the insides of my ears out was a common thing. It hurt so bad my father would have to hold me down during. I have panic attacks every time anything touches my ears as a result.
He's also not allowed to do a whole bunch of shit that he was previously qualified for, like deliver babies, because his shitty practices weren't just limited to his pediatric care and several babies died!
Same old reason of "Well I took your older siblings and they're just fine!" And I was a bit of a hypochondriac as a kid, so they never believed me.
Also, the parent thing of "I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU DO". Told dad when I like 8 that I think I may not have cartilage in my knees and he just immediately "YES YOU DO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WALK IF YOU DIDN'T." He does agree with me now and has long since apologized.
Fyi, for earwax, you can fill a syringe with warm water and fire it into the ear until the wax loosens up and falls out. At the old clinic I worked at we even had a cute little "gun" that hooked up to the faucet and fed back into the drain so we'd just shoot water in the guys ear until a giant lump of wax came out.
Hurts not at all, though one girl said a guy got a boner from her doing it to him one time :/
Just the thought of that is actually vaguely making me panic. I'm super traumatized on anything having to do with going in my ears. He was NOT gentle scraping that shit out of my ears, and dad used to hold me down and put peroxide in my ears because that's what the doctor said to do. I cry everytime I have to put anything in my ears to try to make it drain. I legitimately think I may have to be either sedated or heavily drugged to be able to have my ears cleaned.
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:39 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter gets wax buildups, they make drops you just put in your ear at bedtime (3 drops of oil, that's it) and the goo comes out while you sleep.
You might have a cartilage issue, but I doubt you don't have ANY cartilage. I have joints that pop out of the socket often, and it's because of the cartilage being too loose or wobbly. It also makes it break down easier. Sorry you went through all that... Hope you can get your situation figured out. Until then I recommend using a cane if your joints are very sore. It's a good way to take pressure off. Just make sure you know how to do it right.
You're 19 now? My brother's 16 and the doctor who delivered him walked into the room to tell my mother his face was purple and his umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck, then turned around and left the nurses to deal with it. I believe he killed the next 2 or 3 infants he was supposed to deliver and lost his qualifications. Maybe you had the same doctor?
NoDoThis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, you should look into getting your knees checked (obvi), but if you're concerned about ability to pay, ask (beforehand) if your doc has any financial assistance programs available. Or if you're really hard up for money, consider applying for Medicaid.
If you want more info, just message me, I work in the field (the money side) and would be happy to help! :)
My friend has no cartilage in her knees either. She found out when she broke her knee last year. Now she's just waiting for the other knee to break so she can get surgery to potentially fix the problem.
If you're really broke, you should've signed up for ObamaCare. I'm also broke, and I currently have free health insurance with no copays or deductibles. I was able to use it to finally see someone about my chronic congestion and had my nose surgically fixed.
myne ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bone on bone hurts like hell. It's excruciating by all accounts.
Damn near everyone's knees click and grind.
Ever had an xray? They're not that expensive.
beeyonca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is anecdotal, but in my training I worked with a infertility specialist that told me she once had to explain to an adult couple in their 30s that they had to stop using condoms to get pregnant. They thought it only protected against STDs. As it turns out the female thought she was positive for herpes because she got tested for STDs in the past and was positive for HSV 1, the common "oral herpes" or fever blisters. After 2 years of being unable to conceive they sought a specialist
riptaway ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:02:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
riptaway ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what a weird way to use it. Every personal story is anecdotal, and his story is in a 15k comment thread about stories. It's like walking into Toys R Us, seeking out an associate, and asking where the toys are. It's ALL toys, just shop dude.
What he said isn't anecdotal because it's not evidence of anything, even taking the story at face value. It's just something that happened. He's not making a broader point or trying to prove or disprove anything
A buddy of mine's sister is a OBGYN and she had a patient who was surprised to find out she was actually pregnant and commented, "Are you sure I'm pregnant? I let guys cum in me all the time and nothings happened..."
My wife is a provider and had to have a repetitious conversation with an elderly woman that she did not have a prostate no matter how closely her symptoms matched the commercial for prostate checkups.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lady came in to the ED for dental pain. Reviewing her chart, she was seen by another provider a few days ago for the same thing. So I get in the room, and she said that on her last visit she was told her tooth was infected, was prescribed Clindamycin, and to NOT follow up with her dentist, although the chart (and her previous provider that I'm familiar with) said she was counseled on proper supportive care and follow up. She said the nurse told her it wasn't necessary.
She was also informed that her wisdom teeth are impacting against her other teeth, so she will need to get them out. She proceeded to yell at me and my nurse about how she never had her wisdom teeth in the first place, so that doesn't make sense.
Had to counsel her that wisdom teeth usually come in your 20s and may have to come out depending on how they grow into your gum line.
What's even crazier is that they occasionally come back. My grandmother just had a 5th wisdom tooth removed, after having ALL of her teeth removed many years ago. Weird shit.
I had to explain to my (adult) cousin that right after she has the baby, there is a cord attached to the baby's belly button coming out of her lady parts that needs to be cut. She didn't believe me.
My dad was a paramedic and he told me a story that he got a call from a girl who was probably about 19-20. She was scared because she was randomly bleeding and didn't know why, turns out she was having her first period super late and her parents kept her super sheltered. My dad had to give her the whole sex Ed talk, she didn't even know what sex was!
The idea behind it is that there are a lot of good things (like antibodies) in breastmilk. I get it, but the bottom line for me is that medical therapies (like antibiotics, steroids, and antivirals) are faster and more effective at treating the underlying disease state. Less time spent with a sick eye means less chance for more serious complications to arise.
...including putting her own breast milk in her eyes
I keep hearing about people putting breast milk into irritated and infected eyes. Its even a medieval cure for strained eyes. Its a treatment with history behind it, and I have no clue it its effective or not.
I just want to know who the first person to squeeze a boob into a sore eye was and why this occurred to them.
My mom is a nurse practitioner, and she worked as a diabetes educator for years. She has tons of stories, one of my favourites is about a patient who complained that her insulin was not working and doing nothing to control her blood sugar levels.
My mom asked her to demonstrate how she takes her insulin. So she drew some into a syringe and then squirted it into the garbage can. It seems that whoever originally showed her how to take insulin had discarded the full syringe into the garbage can when the demonstration was over. The patient believed that was part of the procedure.
My mom has always said, that is why she makes sure an insulin demonstration always ends with the patient getting an injection.
jc_cr ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:18:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A class of freshmen nursing students in Human Anatomy lab class. Topic of the day is the reproductive system. One girl is sitting in front of a plastic model of a vagina, with a very confused look on her face. The teacher asks her if something is wrong. The girl replies "Uh, I think this one is upside down"
EMT here, just recently had to explain to a mother who had a baby that needed transporting to the hospital, that you can't smoke on the ambulance...and that you shouldn't smoke around your baby...she put out the cigarette, but insisted she bring it on for the ride...( I made her flick it in the snow)
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:59:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She called EMS for a sore throat... At 4am. Me, bleary eyed medical student not yet used to night shifts, could not comprehend why she called an ambulance for a sore throat in the middle of the night, so I kept digging at the history, thinking this was a call for help or something
Nope. She just didn't understand why her throat hurt when she had a cold
Not a conversation, but for eye exams in general all the time where the patient has their head relaxed on a chin rest looking into the slit lamp calmly and sometimes sleepily.
"Ok, now can I have you open up really wide for me so I can get a really good look?"
Patient proceeds to position their mouth in front of the scope, and does indeed open wide
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:04:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of something a friend of mine did when she went to her first eye exam (she was about 10 years old at the time).
Eye doc: OK, [name], read the chart for me.
Friend: ...
Eye doc: Go ahead, read the chart.
Friend: ...
Friend's Mom: Read it out loud, [name]!
Friend: Ohh!!!
Flylite ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:39:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My urologist explained to me about a front line defense pill I had to take for kidney stones called potassium citrate. It's this brittle chemical encased in a swallowable shell. Quite a large and noticeable pill. The shell also has serious indigestible qualities about it.
He once told me that I would not believe how many people tried to save money on prescriptions by retrieving the pill from their stool and washing it to reuse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No fucking way!! That's repulsive and those people are complete idiots!!
I was in the ER a few years ago and the other patient in the room with me was a 19-year-old-girl who had chugged four energy drinks and taken diet pills. Neither she nor her mother could understand why she had the shakes and a pounding heart. The doc explained and they were absolutely indignant that there was no warning on the energy drink bottles saying NOT to chug a bunch at once and take diet pills, so how were they supposed to know?!
The doc looked very tired when he came over to check on me.
BTW, every time I walked past her bed (was diuresing/having to pee a lot), the girl was sitting there with a blanket over her head like a very sullen, off-white ghost.
d0mr448 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, you found her. The one person who's the reason for the text on plastic coffee cups warning people contents might be hot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Again, whenever I wonder why there are seemingly obvious instructions or descriptions on items, I will be reminded with stories like this that there are people of all ages who have no common sense or lack education.
I literally JUST had this conversation with this patient not 2 minutes ago
She came in with a bowel screening kit that issued by the Australian government.
She said to me that she doesn't want to do it because she "doesn't want to catch bowel cancer". After I explained she cant "catch" bowel cancer, especially from the kit she again told me that she doesn't want to take it cause she's worried she'll catch cancer from taking the test.
Salem13 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had an abortion patient that we also did a STI screen on. When her test came back positive for chlamydia, I had to call her to let her know to come get treatment. I spent a good ten minutes explaining that it is a SEXUALLY transmitted infection, only for her to ask "but how did I get it?" each time. No matter how simply I broke it down that she had sex with someone who had it, she just didn't get it. She was 26.
Also had a patient that came in for a retained condom who asked if she could just leave it alone so it would dissolve.
GhetBent ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:39:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend's aunt is a podiatrist. A patient of hers came in with come kind of foot fungus, I assume it wasn't athletes foot, so she had to prescribe her antibiotics. A week or so later she came back in and wasn't happy, the fungus wasn't gone. Aunt L. asked if she had taken the pills as prescribed. She took her sock off and revealed that she had been putting the medication, in PILL form, between her toes for the week yet was upset that Aunt L. had not helped her condition.
You freaking kidding me? My favorite story of hers Lol
I had to explain to a patient that pasta doesn't count as a vegetable and that, consequently, 400g of pasta per day wouldn't meet the recommended daily amount of vegetables.
mjrinor ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:55:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking to a friend of mine, female in her early 50's and college educated, about the possibility of her having a hysterectomy as she was having a lot of difficulties with uterine bleeding and had not been able to tolerate various birth control medications. She said something to the effect of, "well I still want to have orgasms, I'm not that old- I'm not ready to give that up!" I was so blown away that I almost couldn't figure out what in the hell she was talking about. She said she orgasmed, "inside," and therefore, did not want to have a hysterectomy. It turns out she thought her cervix was somehow involved in her ability to orgasm, and that having a hysyerectomy would mean her cervix would be removed and, therefore, she would not have the ability to achieve climax. I tried to explain that sometimes the cervix was left, and sometimes it might be removed with the uterus, but that that had really nothing to do with her ability to have an, "inside orgasm." She still seemed skeptical. I was about to start into a sex education lesson, but thought to myself- no, the internet exists, let her start researching this on her own, she may learn more that way. On my way out I told her she could ask me follow-up questions if she needed to.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:14:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but the person thought that only gay people could get HIV through anal. Even after explaining he was still of the opinion that it would never happen to him even tough he doesn't use protection because he is not gay. Bledie idiot.
In reddit tradition, I'm not a doctor but a pharmacy technician. Had to explain to a coworker that refusing to wash his socks for literally months was causing a cloud of gag-inducing funk to form around him. He was a specialist in the Army. When confronted, he said, "well, I could smell it, but no one said anything so I figured it was just in my head." The smell was so bad people in the waiting room of the pharmacy were angrily complaining.
xixoxixa ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joe will be Joe.
We had a guy that we had to drag into the shower, literally. Platoon sergeant handed us all (new, unused) toilet brushes and we scrubbed his nasty ass.
riptaway ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:43:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, specialist is just a rank in the Army. It's one below sergeant, so you don't even have to do anything to get it besides be in for awhile and not get in trouble. It's automatic.
Specialist in the Army doesn't mean the same thing as specialist in the civilian world
No fucking shit you moron. He was an E-4. I was an E-3 at the time. God damn can you come across as more condescending about the commonly known rank structure of an organization I fucking belonged to?
riptaway ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:00:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First, it was more towards others reading it, but yes, it sounded like you didn't know what it meant. Mainly because you put it in there as if it were somehow relevant, surprising, or interesting.
If you'd said a Sergeant Major or Colonel didn't know the basics of personal hygiene, that would have been something. Saying he was a specialist the way you did made it seem like that was something that should preclude poor hygiene.
Even in your oddly hostile comment you're still spitting irrelevant information, lol. Oh, he was an e4 and you were an e3 at the time? Do tell me more about...oh wait, never mind, I thought you were going somewhere with that, but you just mentioned it and then dropped it without giving context or an eventual reason for telling me y'alls ranks, never mind. LOL
If the question was "what was the dumbest thing a doctor has said" then he would have been perfectly fine with mentioning that specialist is a common rank. It wasn't. I said he was a specialist in the Army. It's in the same sentence. That should generally cause one to glean that they're fucking related. Don't act like a fucking moron and you won't get correct like the fucking moron you are. It's that simple.
Here's some other shocking tidbits of information. Water is wet, a shark's ass is water tight, and bears shit in the woods.
AzriKel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:13:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Specialist in the army to a civilian/layperson sounds like it means specialist the way it does in wider society i.e. someone who is trained in a specific subject. Clarifying for the broader audience reading this that it's a ranking helps. Wtf is your problem dude, there's no reason to be so upset.
It's because it's at so basic a level of comprehension that it doesn't need explaining. It's irritating as shit to have some random dickbag make such an obvious fucking statement. It's like going on a tour of New York and having the tour guide point down and say, "That's actual cement!"
riptaway ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:02:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, most people outside of the military and who don't have much contact with military personnel actually do assume specialist means something like what it means in the civilian world; a person who has specialized training and skills. Also FYI, your context and explanation did nothing to explain what a specialist is, contrary to what you're saying.
Bad times, dude. You're a hot mess. Get some sleep and come back at me
bomnjom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I was trying to save money." He also only ate Ramen noodles when he wasn't at the Hospital where we worked.
bomnjom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shudder to think what his underwear philosophy was.
xixoxixa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joe will be Joe.
We had a guy that we had to drag into the shower, literally. Platoon sergeant handed us all (new, unused) toilet brushes and we scrubbed his nasty ass.
I had a patient who complained that his asthma inhaler didn't prevent or reduce the severity of his crisis. He was using the inhaler as a suppository...
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 22:03:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? No, I'm sorry, but no. Unless he had an older brother playing the prank of all pranks on him I just can't bring myself to believe this one (mainly to keep my sanity).
Tjodleik ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:13:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After working with people for close to ten years (surveys and IT tech support) I can assure you there are people out there who are that stupid.
To his defence, he had a bricanyl turbuhaler which "kinda" has the shape of a massive suppository.
jyetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, I had to look that up and if someone just handed it to me and said it was an inhaler, I probably wouldn't know how to take it because I've had always had inhalers that that looks approximately like this.
That said, "inhale" is is right there in the damn word. I don't know about him, but I sure as fuck can't inhale through my ass.
how?when I first got an inhaler as a kid they made me practice in front of the doctor to make sure I knew what to do
Zottoman ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:23:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but what my friend did makes me glad I don't deal with medical stuff.
He had no dental care, and he had a big cavity in the back of his mouth. So he drank enough bourbon until he couldn't feel anything, and went at the cavity with a screwdriver
tsume24 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:57:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my second step dad. He broke a tooth but refused to go to the dentist, "I'm not afraid, I just don't like dentists!" A lot of bourbon and some needle nose pliers resulted in a worse break. Idiot had no choice but to go to the dentist and whined the whole way to and from.
Middle of my surgery residency and I'm in the hospital on call at 2am. Another surgery service notifies me about their elderly patient is dying of cancer and the family is deciding whether or not to make him DNR (do not resuscitate).
Nurses call me to his room as he is actively spiraling and I come to the room with about 10-12 family members present, none of whom I've met before.
I proceed to be super sensitive and give them all the DNR talk and everyone gives me their full attention in silence. At the end, I ask them if anyone had any questions.
Without skipping a beat, one of them asks me "did anyone ever tell you you look exactly like Keanu Reeves?" And the whole entourage looks at me curiously without any reservation.
Note: I look nothing like Keanu Reeves. WTF.
OhSolios ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:10:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coping mechanism. Just trying to escape being there making that decision even if only for a moment.
My best friend's mother is diabetic (type 2). The last time she came to town, she was going on and on about how hard her diabetes is to control, but how coconut oil and kombucha and all this other holistic crap was pretty much magical. She kept all this stuff in her purse "in case of emergency"...like coconut oil is going to help in the event of a blood sugar spike.
The three of us went to a coffee house type place for lunch. I got some kind of wrap that was mostly lettuce and she lectured me about how unhealthy that was because lettuce causes blood clots or something (?!) For dessert she got a massive cinnamon roll that was as big as the plate and some mega-sugary coffee thing and afterwards complained that she felt like shit and her blood sugar was probably too high.
I asked her "don't you have medication or insulin or something?"
She replies, "No...I just need to have some coconut oil."
She took a plastic spoon out of a baggie and scooped some out of the jar and ate it like it was freaking peanut butter.
What the hell.
eazolan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, Vitamin K can reduce the effectiveness of Coumadin/warfarin (an anti-blood clot medication) and a lot of doctors will recommend not eating too many greens while on it.
My wife and I went to the lady parts doctor for the initial pregnancy visit. We were chatting about labour and what to expect, she's kinda a weird one anyway but looks straight at my wife and says "you know this baby is coming out of your vagina, right?" My wife and I look at each other and back at her "um, yeah?" The she went right back to being a bubbly ding bat and said "oh good, that makes this part a lot easier, you just never know about some people".
I think we walked out more confused than when we went in. Like for her to ask that question, enough people must've been unsure.
enocc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:02:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today I [surgical chief resident] had to spend time convincing a 60 year old man who had an aortic dissection (and would likely die if he left) that he should stay in the hospital rather than go home because he didn't like all the noise in the hallway. Personally, I'd rather have people walking buy my room during my afternoon nap and be alive to be bothered by them than have my aorta explode in my chest and die suddenly and painfully... But hey, to each their own. (And no, he wasn't a palliative/end of life patient, he just needed better blood pressure control badly)
That happens to people who regularly use cocaine, too. I had a friend who just had a dissection completely randomly, though. She made it through, thankfully.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was working in California, in a very rich area where education is amazing, I asked one of my child patients to pee into a little cup. The parent took me aside and scolded me, saying, "Why are you trying to make my son drink his own pee? Shame on you doctor dankmeme__! I thought we live in a civilized day and age, and you expect me to cope with this!?" then i told her i wasn't going to make her son drink that shit. she just spat at me.
Wow. I donno about where you are, but here in Canada spitting at someone is considered assault due to the possibility of disease transmission. You spit at a doctor here in Canada and you're likely spending the duration of your appointment in handcuffs, or under the watch of an RCMP officer or orderly.
stawwp ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:50:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, but my dad had a mom tell him that she was so thankful that fruit snacks exist because it was the only way she could get her kids to eat fruit. Yeah.... thats not fruit.
That may have been my sister "it says fruit right in the name"
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a similar scenario. ID discovered the mysterious bacteremia occurring in the patient's central line was that of an oral bacteria. Pt was chewing up the pills the RN was giving him and using spit to inject the chewed pills into his PICC line.
Hello this is Dr. Tiger, what's the issue with little Kayla?
Uh huh, OK, so do you have a bottle of children's Tylenol there?
Uh huh, yes, and what does it say on the side of the bottle?
Yes, well, if she is 2.5 years old and weighs 30 pounds and the bottle says one teaspoon then the dosage is ... one teaspoon.
Nope, actually there is no math involved. It just says it there on the label...
Nope, not because I said so. Because the label says that the dosage for a child that weighs 30 pounds is one teaspoon.
No you don't need to call me back if you want to give a second dose twelve hours from now. Do you see where it says "Do not exceed more than five doses in 24 hours?"
Yes, but
OK that's fine - call back anytime if you are unsure.
I'm an EMT and had a patient with a blood pressure of 210/120 (that's REALLY high). I asked if they were on blood pressure medication. They informed me that the doctor had given them the blood pressure meds, but after 3 weeks their blood pressure had gone down, so they stopped taking them. This was my reaction:
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/CDqD1KV
I hear that sort of thing quite frequently. Symptoms improve because of the medication so people assume they no longer need to take it. I guess they think it's like if you take a pain killer.
Guy stuck a metal dildo up his butt and punctured his rectum while his wife was out of town, he told us not to say anything when she got to the hospital after his surgery, so we played dumb to her and let him do the talking.
BadBinch ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:39:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking to a customer about the "male and female" parts of a connector and he asked "why are they called male and female anyway" and I kind of just stared for a moment trying to decide if I should explain penis and bagina to this man, but I just decided to go with the classic "I'm not sure" answer
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like someone to explain a bagina to me too!
BadBinch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xythan ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone trained in palaeobiology, the amount of times I have heard this line (most recently just prior to NY) - 'Wait, you mean dinosaurs are real?'
Then I proceed to blow their mind and ask them when they last ate one and explain chicken. :p
Not me, but friend is a Nurse in the dental section (insert correct terminology here) of a children's hospital. 11-year-old boy came in to have several rotted teeth extracted. Mother's first question was when she could start breastfeeding him again... they quickly learned why he needed the teeth extracted. They had to tell her that, technically, it was about a week before he could resume breastfeeding. At 11 years old.
Aeleas ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:21:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt is not a doctor, but she works at a hospital counseling diabetes patients to help them manage their disease. She has to explain to people on a daily basis that if they continue eating and drinking garbage they will find themselves in an early grave. Some of them just don't care.
I was misdiagnosed as having gestational diabetes with my first child. Before knowing it was a misdiagnosis, and being on Medicaid at the time, I felt so ashamed and embarrassed every time I met with a dietician. But, on the plus side, holy cow was that educational to take my blood sugar and learn how to eat! I really did not understand anything about food or the needs of my body.
The sad thing is that under universal health care, those people will not have to pay the costs of their poor health choices (and I say this as an obese guy, but one who has health insurance). Diabetes and heart diseases are two of the most expensive categories of government health care expenditures.
I'm not a doctor (yet) but when I was interning in an Oncology Department, a woman came in with breast cancer. The doctor checked it out and was appalled at how developed it was and asked how she had not seen it sooner. She said she had but she thought it would go away. He asked how long it had been there - and she goes "5 weeks". He just stares at her and says point blank "You have two choices; keep your breast and die or let us remove it ASAP and maybe not die." She went with the second option. I got to see it myself and it was pretty damn large. PEOPLE IF SOMETHING SEEMS ODD ABOUT YOUR BODY TO GO A FUCKING DOCTOR
shadfc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is 5 weeks a long time for breast cancer development?
It depends on person from person. It all depends on YOU; which is why Stages of Cancer are not usually based on time, but rather symptoms currently. I believe this tumor was at Breast Cancer Stage IIB but I don't recall. Here's more information. http://www.nationalbreastcancer.org/growth-of-breast-cancer
No need to be nervous; just keep an eye out on your self. This woman was obese and unhealthy in general and she may have made poor life choices (I said may for a reason). The more aware you are of your body and habits, the better off you'll be for recognizing cancer symptoms or just in general life. Exercise, study, and keep a good sleeping pattern and eating pattern. :)
My father worked with the hospital; and I was ALLOWED* to intern much earlier than they allow some people. I haven't graduated college yet.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my uncle told me this story about his time at Medical school in rural Arkansas.
He was doing a rotation with an OBGYN. The patient was a young girl of about 20, pretty, but about as hillbilly as you could get. She had just found out she was pregnant, and asked where the baby would come out of when it was born. My uncle told her, "the same place it came in through."
Her response, "my mouth is gonna be hurting bad then..."
Man, that joke is literally older than dirt, but it's still funny.
jafbm ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:15:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER doc here.
Most of my stories have to do with religion. You've heard versions of them...when I set a broken leg or revive an unconscious patient it's "God's work" or "a miracle from God." and has nothing to do with my 12 years of formal training and 40+ years of hands-on experience :(
MR1120 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:29:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HATE that. People that give all the healing credit to God should have both arms broken. Let a doctor treat one and a priest pray for the other, and see which gets better faster.
oz_moses ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you must really HATE that!
MR1120 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HATE that. People that give all the healing credit to God should have both arms broken. Let a doctor treat one and a priest pray for the other, and see which gets better faster.
Reminds me of the very old joke about the family that was flooded out of their house and drowned.
Told by police and fire dept to leave before the flood "We will be rescued by God!"
Flood happens, on roof of the house, water rising. National guard comes by in boat, nope, won't go, "We'll be rescued by the Lord!"
Last attempt by the Coast Guard in a helicopter to get them off the last bit of roof. Still wont go. Drown in the flood.
Get to Heaven, ask the Lord:
"Lord why didn't you save us!?"
God responds: "What are you talking about? I sent police, fire dept, the national guard and the Coast guard in a helicopter, what else do you want!?"
Sorry about the idiots in your ER Doc.
40 years, sir, you're a saint to be in there that long!
jafbm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:00 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah thank you. My wife is the saint, putting up with my long hours and late night calls. She raised our 4 kids practically solo!
oz_moses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought "God's work" was NFL championships and little league games?
MR1120 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HATE that. People that give all the healing credit to God should have both arms broken. Let a doctor treat one and a priest pray for the other, and see which gets better faster.
My friend who works in a pharmacy told me a story about a girl buying nuvaring birth control. The pharmacist asked if the girl had any questions about the ring, she said no, and went on doing her shopping. From the pharmacy counter, she could see the girl open the box and slip the ring around her finger. The pharmacist calls her over and asks her what she's doing, the girl is confused and thought the nuvaring was to be worn like a regular ring on your finger and the anti-pregnancy effects were absorbed through the skin like a smokers patch. The pharmacist then had to explain to her how it's applied and used.
I had to explain to a couple of girls (one of them was actually a nurse) that pregnant women do not menstruate. It was such a heated argument with many of them bringing up anecdotal evidence from their mother's or sisters having had their periods "every" month when they were pregnant.
I explained that while it is sometimes common for pregnant women to experience spotting or some blood, it is not MENSTRUATION.
EDIT: Not a doctor, just an informed female. :p
Ruben85 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im a bit late to the game, but here goes the wall of text:
Im not a doctor, but I was in the hospital for a bike accident a few years ago. In the bed next to me there was an older man, maybe around 60 years old. He had ridden his lawn mower sideways on a small slope when it turned over and landed on him somehow, and the blade chewed up his arm pretty good.
When the doctor (that happened to be from india or pakistan I think) did his rounds the guy said he wanted a specific brand of codeine for the pain. The doctor explained to him that if he gets codeine, he cant give him paracetamol and morphine, which is much more effective. The old guy kept on insisting on codeine but eventually he relented and accepted morphine.
Later the same doc came to schedule his operation to reattach tendons and muscles, basically rebuild his arm. The old guy said that this date wasn't good for him, because he had bought unrefundeable tickets for a boatride in the archipelago.
The doctor explains that he doesnt really have a choice and have to do it as soon as possible, but the old guy keeps going on about this boat trip and finally the doctor says:
"Well i guess its about priorities, youll have to select between a boat ride and your arm, you cant have both."
The guy mumbles something and when the doctor left he turned to me and said:
"Those damn immigrants, right?"
I didnt respond, I just turned over and kept reading my book.
GeoleVyi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First they take our jobs, now they're taking our boat riding arms!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap!! I laughed so hard. ๐๐๐ "Those damn immigrants, right?" was just too funny. I've been reading all these stories on this thread for the past 2 days. I. Can't. Get. Enough. Who needs friends when you have Reddit ๐๐
court777 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:50:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but a nurse... I had a girl about 15/16 she asked me if dry vibrators could cause STD's I explained to her that if the vibrator had fluids on it then POSSIBLY you could... not likely tho... STD's don't live long as I asked my doctor in charge. It was interesting I asked her who's vibrator she used and she said her mothers. Lol.
Once I had a patient with an abscess on her hand. And mind you, this is India, where the rural people are superstitious. I asked why did you wait for so long? She said this is actually our Goddess giving me punishment for something I had done. 'Then why come now? Won't the Goddess treat it?', i said. She said, no the Goddess gives only punishment. I shook my head and began draining it, incapable of further conversation.
When I was a fresh graduate nurse it was frightening how often I had to tell people that I was not poisoning their child with vaccines. Gladly I switched to OR
Had to explain last week to a man that the difference between the name brand benedryl (in the pink box) and the generic benedryl (in the blue box) are both for unisex use. He wanted to know if he could share a box with his wife or if only men can use the blue box. "I take the blue box because I am man, right?" ๐ณ uh. No.
This struck me as odd, not because he asked (because of course someone asked that it's the point of this thread) but because I've never seen a generic box of Benadryl that wasn't pink. Likewise generic aleve is blue and generic Flonase is green. I'm so very glad I read the labels.
Not a doctor, but a surgical nurse; I saw one patient, multiple times, that slowly but surely lost his leg bit by bit over a 3 year span. He had uncontrolled diabetes and was a heavy smoker. We took (by took, I mean amputated) his toes, then his foot, then a BKA (below the knee amputation), then an A(bove) KA up to his mid thigh. Before every surgery I'd witness my surgeon tell him that if he didn't stop smoking (which was hindering the vascularization to his leg) we'd be seeing him soon to take more of his leg. His response was, "as long as I can ride my Harley, I don't need my legs."
CNBOS34 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:35:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a drug rehab clinic and had to explain to a 50 yr old opiate addict why another doctor he was seeing in treatment wouldnt prescribe him opiates for his migranes
My mom had a book on it and she tried to get me an my sister to do it. It lasted a few weeks and the worst thing I remember from it was spelt bread. I think she gave up when she realized everyone would have to have different meals.
KaraWolf ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I ended up typing myself because not only did my doc refuse the request, but the one time I managed to donate they never contacted me about any of it. And that experience I refuse to repeat unless its family standing in front of me who need MY blood right now. Gave me massive bruising where there shouldn't have been and I couldnt move that arm at all without a lot of pain for almost a week.
As a 4th year student I was rotating through surgery clinic seeing post-op patients. I picked up the chart of a homosexual male who had undergone a colostomy because of severe perianal herpes.
When I looked at his colostomy site I saw several small red vesicles (blisters). The resident came in, took a quick peek and screamed F$CK!!! The guy had herpes around the colostomy. He made me go back and explain to the guy that he should not be having intercourse in the colostomy.
I used to be a funeral director and I got into an argument with a co-worker over sepsis. Pretty much went like this:
Co: Man, we've had three people this week die of sepsis. I think I better start double gloving...
Me: You can't catch sepsis, but you might get whatever caused the infection if you have a needle stick...
Co: No chance, three people died of the same thing, there's something going around....
Me: brings up wiki page to prove it
Co: Not everything on wiki is true you know.
Me: facepalm
Sepsis is a blood poisoning that basically is caused from an infection you have that spread into the blood stream and becomes toxic to your organs and body. So yeah, three separate people with three totally different diseases died because it deteriorated into sepsis which was their cause of death, and my lovely co worker (who did graduate from mortuary school where you do have to learn biology and pathology and pass your state boards to become licensed) didn't want to catch it.
studdoc ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:22:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to tell a patient at the department for vascular surgery, who had been smoking for decades, had been told a thousand times to quit and had already had a removement of a pulmonary lobe done because of cancer, that his leg had to be removed below the knee, because the blood wasn't going through his vessels to the foot anymore.
His only reaction was the question: "but I can continue smoking, right?"
I had no words.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:20:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Only if you want to lose your other leg too, sir."
vijeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the blood wasn't going through his vessels to the foot anymore.
Is that actually the case when they remove it? I mean, no blood, zilch, nada? Or is it really, slightly below where the limb will stay alive for much longer?
studdoc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:21:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's such a small amount of blood that it hardly bleeds while removing the limb. The toes are turning black and wounds, once they are there, can't heal anymore. So, no blood is quite safe to say.
vijeno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dear. Well, I guess it's my own fault for asking. On the other hand, now I'm even more relieved I quit smoking a decade ago.
Had a patient come to clinic with a cough and was 20 or so weeks pregnant. I asked if she smoked and her answer was; I don't smoke, I vape. It's bad for the baby.
Pharmacist here... have a couple, but the one that sticks out most to me is a female patient comes up to the counter and starts to tell me how her medication for a vaginal yeast infection isn't working. I go through the usual and ask her how often she's using the medication, and I ask her on what day she's on. She says nightly and it's her 3rd day/night. I tell her, well you're supposed to be on the med for 7 days/night, but should feel some kind of relief. She says no. So I tell her to contact her MD to discuss. She pushes for me to call since she's there and maybe the doc can change the med so I can fill it while she's waiting. I call the doc and get the receptionist, and while I identify myself, she patient yells at me, "and tell the Dr. that it don't taste so good". I tell the receptionist to hang on a sec, and say to the patient, "Ma'am, that's a cream."
nemorina ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there was a compulsory sex ed class for first year college student, especially after hearing all these horror stories of adults being clueless.That and I wish someone who taught sex ed to write a book about this horrifying lack of knowledge with the proper information. My God the US is a nation of idiots.
shyhalu ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
College? Most of the adults in question never made it that far. Others are immigrants who went to a diploma mill that doesn't teach a general education.
The better solution is to have IQ tests before you can breed.
My aunt is a neo natal nurse practitioner (nurse who treats newborn babies) and she got a call from a patients husband asking if his wife could swim in water above her belly button. She informed that she could and asked why he had this question. He said "well that's where the baby is coming out, right?" She had to transfer the call to one of the doctors because she couldn't stop laughing.
Counseling a woman on nutrition (her 8 year old son was morbidly obese), asked her if they ate vegetables. She said he won't eat vegetables. She said the only way she ever got him to eat vegetables was by baking corn into brownies, and even then he just picked the corn out and ate the brownies. At least she was honest.
Basic education about nutrition is sorely needed in this country. All it would take is a few short sessions with a dietician, but insurance almost never covers that. They'll gladly pay for most diabetes, cholesterol, and blood pressure meds, though.
The bullshit claim that a child won't eat vegetables galls me. I'll give you preferences. I didn't like brussel sprouts till adulthood but all sorts of other vegetables. Why? Because I wasn't given the choice between cake or cucumbers. Stop feeding your kids shit.
Spazmer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:34 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had the same thing with kids in my daycare. They eat all sorts of fruits and vegetables here because that's what we're having and this isn't a restaurant, but the parents are still cutting crusts off their sandwiches and saying they refuse to eat any fruit or vegetable. It's because you will make something else!
One 1.5 year old wouldn't eat solids... but only at home. So his mom would give him baby food. He hadn't eaten baby food at my house in months.
Good G damn it! You're a parent not a catering service. Stop that shit. You raise brats into assholes.
My SO said he didn't mind XYZ vegetables if they were cut up small enough he didn't notice them. Fuck. That.
He now eats roasted brussel sprouts.
adalida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to wonder if it isn't somewhat connected to the reduction in people with confident kitchen skills. If you boil vegetables till they turn to mush, or steam them with no spices or flavorings, vegetables ARE pretty flavorless and gross, especially compared to fried chicken and ice cream.
I will say that's why I didn't like brussel sprouts, but that still didn't get me out of eating at least a couple at dinner. The "he only likes pizza"/"she only eats chicken nuggets and tater tots" argument is what gets me. I was even forced to at least try liver. I meet adults who get prissy if their chicken has bones.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bursselaprouts are amazing with a little salt and some lemon juice <3 still smell like farts tho.
Sometimes I'll do the sliced brussel sprouts with sautรฉed kale, crumbled bacon, whatever other veggies I have on hand with one or two over easy eggs on top. Very filing and damn healthy. And now I need to go to the grocery store because I'm hungry. ;)
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now i need hardboiled eggs....because Im ALSO hungry and the only things in my fridge are raw blackbeans, eggs and some milk. Need to grocery shop soon too.. lol
The good old "sweep out the cabinets because we're getting down to only having dust bunnies in the house to eat" need to go shopping point. We've all been there ;)
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a flat of ramen and stuff for pancakes or oatmeal as well but yeah. Cleaned out the fridge and there is very very little left.
That's the point where I will repeatedly open and close the fridge and cabinets like somehow new food will magically appear. Spoiler: it doesn't.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I forget the offerings cause Im only sorta hungry(or starving. I never forget when im regular hungry) but should eat because I skipped the last meal and so not only am I hoping there is magically new food, but reminding myself of all the food I DONT want to eat.
If it helps, at least at my kids school, in California they push nutrition hard. He's in kindergarten and only drinks water now since it's the best thing to drink and knows candy is a sometimes food. It's awesome. I didn't know shit at his age about that stuff.
I'm a med student. I explained to a forty-five year-old woman where her cervix is, just minutes before doing her pelvic exam. She had had a couple kids already, too!
Edit:spelling sorry on mobile
Spazmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:28:44 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dr had a med student when I was in for my yearly appt so I agreed that she could do the pelvic exam (her first ever.) My legs are up and she's taking a look and I hear "I can't find her cervix!" I said "I was sure it was there when I came in here..."
Lol! On behalf of students, thank you for letting a student try. It's actually pretty tricky to find the cervix, it can be facing all different ways and might be really deep or shallow and we under- or overshoot with the speculum. Also, if there is any laxity in the vaginal walls, they cave in and you can't see anything, let alone a cervix! Practice, practice, and more practice is the only way we get better. That's why it's called practicing medicine. Haha. Thank you again for letting a novice train!!!
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MsCNO ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:56:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a nurse. Was taking care of a patient who had been admitted with DNA but ended up needing dialysis and long-term antibiotics once it was discovered that the heel to their foot was basically rotting off. So while the patient is hospitalized, we checked their glucose levels in the morning, around meals, and before bed. One check was 59- which is way too low. I treat the glucose issue, and notice while I'm educating the patient about what I was doing, that they hadn't eaten their grilled chicken and vegetable dinner plate. I encourage the patient to eat but am met with complaints that it has no taste. A little more education about diabetes and diet, and the patient verbalizes understanding. Ten minutes later patient calls me into the room. The patient tells me a friend is going to bring them a burger and coke from Wendys and wanted to know if they could get me anything. I declined and tried to explain again about proper diet choices but the patient assured me this was the best way to bring up their "sugar numbers". Sure as shit, that patient ate two massive burgers, fries and the largest coke Wendys has to offer. Can't remember what the morning glucose was, but I know it was way higher than it should have been. SMH.
I've had a few patients who told me they drank a lot(like, a fifth per day of hard liquor and a 40 of malt liquor) but don't believe they could be alcoholics because they never get drunk.
harten66 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is doctor, I think I hear a story at least 3 times a week of people "falling" on objects and getting them stuck up their asses.
Cbebop21 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I have two stories about my 70 year old crazy ass grandma.
Just this weekend she remarks "I never knew you wouldn't have your period on birth control" because she never took it... she used a diaphragm 40 years ago but that's it. She had 5 children haha
Number 2 from my crazy ass grandma: she as a teenager didn't believe you could get pregnant before marriage as that's what she was taught in school in rural Virginia in the 50's. She got pregnant by a married man and was surprised...
rockeh ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:03:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I work in the animal/veterinary field and someone called us to say their cat was making strange sounds; it was purring. Also a different person was unaware that they needed to supply their dog with water.
Not a doctor, but worked closely with many docs. I'd room patients for office visits following stent placements and open heart surgeries. Typically these patients were put on medications to lower blood pressure and lower cholesterol "statins". Often times, these patients were "educated" on their new diets, however I had numerous patients who would come in and boast about how because they were on statins, they could eat whatever fatty foods they wanted, stop exercising, and generally become the most unhealthy people in existence. I'd estimate I gave, in a standard 40 hour week, over 15 hours of my time to educating patients on what their medications actually did, why they should avoid fatty foods, and the importance of maintaining an active lifestyle. Maybe not as "face palm" as you're looking for, but sometimes...
I didn't even know this was a thing till I was in a nutrition class and literally every other person in there was insisting eggs were dairy because they "are next to the milk in the store."
punknil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:27:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck. I was adulting so well until this one. I'm not lactose intolerant or anything, and I do prepare my eggs with milk or cheese most of the time anyways, but I honestly did not know this. Never stopped to think that it doesn't come from a milk animal and can't be dairy or have dairy proteins or sugars.
Admittedly not a full grown adult, but my brother (he usually works with teens) had a patient refuse a finger prick blood sample because she was scared she'd "leak". As in, she would just slowly be drained of all her blood.
Apparently her parents never explained the whole blood vessel thing.
Zen110 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I remember a teacher telling us about this patient who was asked to gurgle/ rinse mouth with salted lukewarm water following a tooth extraction.
Now, the word for "lukewarm" is "kushum" in the local language. "Kushum" is also a word for "egg yolk" and in this case, it is always preceeded by the word for "egg" as in "egg yolk".
When the patient returned for follow-up appointment, a smelly mouth was the least of the problems.
The doctor had to explain that one's mouth is to be rinsed with clean water (with some salt for therapeutic purposes), not water with raw egg yolk mixed in.
Reminds me of my ex, except I was 95 lbs and in the depths of an eating disorder, and he insisted I ate like a cow. Meanwhile he easily plowed through 3500+ calories a day.
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:57 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2900 calories is a crazy amount for 168 lbs still unless you're working out for hours.
i also forgot to add on drinks to that total - including the amount of whole milk ill drink a day - that gets me an extra 2600 ontop of that.
i literally have no idea why i cant gain weight in spite of trying for 6 years
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my sister is a nurse. At least once a week, she has someone come in to confirm a pregnancy. They are always disappointed when she pulls out the exact same store brand of pregnancy tests they have already used.
Yes, they really are quite dependable.
Jbgators ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:29:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That the toe I was getting ready to amputate that day wasn't going to grow back.
flup00 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in the ER and we had a 21 year old patient that was there to get a bump checked out (turned out to be herpes), but he was also curious as to why his penis looked a little different. He asked why he had "more skin" than others. We explained that he was uncircumcised, and then he continued to question why he hadn't been circumcised as a kid. It was an interesting conversation.
I had to explain to my mother that the urethra of a woman is not located below the vagina. It was a half hour long disagreement until I finally just googled a diagram of the female genitalia.
GeoleVyi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:29:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but in medical manufacturing. I constantly have to explain (and explain, and explain) to my adult friends who work in the food industry that no, mustard does not act as a surefire cure for burns, and you shouldn't run warm water over them either.
rynpaige ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 22:43:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but because of Cards Against Humanity, I had to have a fun convo with my mom explaining what Bukkake was....or as she was pronouncing it "Boo-Cake"
Terimary ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:55:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had this conversation playing with our family on thanksgiving. Talk about awkward.
To avoid having to explain it entirely, I have to tell my parents beforehand that urban dictionary is their friend during the game, and they're totally allowed to look stuff up (although sometimes it's funnier without it). Hell, I don't even know some of the weird shit in there.
Ha. This happened recently. We were playing with some friends and one of the friend's mother, who is in her 80s. We were trying to gently explain "queef" to the mother until her daughter just lost patience and said, "mom, it's a pussy fart". Mom said, "oh" and nodded. Some experiences are cross-generational, I guess.
Sometimes I wish my parents weren't heavily conservitive Christians. Then I could actually play games like CAH with them and not be disowned. I mean, for fuck's sake, I have to constantly censor everything I do because we've got 6 people in a three bedroom house and there is never any privacy. Hell, they wouldn't let me lock my door just to be alone when I had my own room (I wasn't even doing naughty things, just wanted to be by myself)...
I can only imagine what would happen if my mom figured out that I knew what bukkake is...
I had to explain to my mother, father, and 60 year old aunt what the shocker was because we were at Halloween on a local campus and that was someone's costume and I laughed at it.
xixoxixa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Played with a physician's assistant student who pronounced cholera as 'coal-air-a' and tentacles as 'ten-tackles'.
Thanks. I thought it probably was - I remember Ghastly's being fonder of silly wordplay - but I remembered that Sexy Losers had at least one entire recurring storyline centered around bukkake so that gave me pause.
My family knows I speak Japanese and they asked me this and I was like well it's what they call the culinary practice pouring broth over food, but there's another thing it also refers to....
sg92i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but because of Cards Against Humanity, I had to have a fun convo with my mom explaining what Bukkake was.
I had a similar experience at Christmas dinner with my family one year. My brother had said something and I misheard it, thinking he had just said "bukkake." I then said "wait, did you just say bukkake?" He turned beat red, repeated what he actually said (I don't remember what it was now) and then explained to the family what bukkake was and said something to the effect of: "I wonder how my sister knows what bukkake is." I responded with "I wonder how you know what bukkake is." And then there was awkward silence for a while.
It didn't so much call for a conversation, but I do have a story from my Dr. husband that I think fits.
He came home just saying "Four days!" Over and over in disbelief. Finally he tells me this woman came in that day..... she had previously had an appointment 4 days sooner but rescheduled. Anyways, she comes in complaining that she thinks there's a bug stuck in her ear..... she can feel it moving. Husband is dubious. Who would let a bug sit in their ear for days on end? But sure enough, a cockroach was jammed in her ear canal. A large one that barely fit. Luckily it was dead by the time he pulled it out.
Paramedic, not a Doctor. Went to a house for a sick kid. The kid had flu-like symptoms. This was around the time of the swine flu scare. The mom wanted to us to bring her kid to the hospital, but also evaluate her other children because they had all ate pork earlier that week and she was worried they would get sick as well.
Not a physician, but as an Athletic Trainer at a D1 university we had an athlete who kept complaining of shin pain. At first it was manageable and even getting better, but after a while it got drastically worse. We spent a lot of time trying to figure out why this girl was having so much trouble all of the sudden because rehab, rest, various medications and modalities were not working. We come to find out that this girl had been operating on the wrong side of "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" by way of taking a hammer to her shins every night in order to "help the bones get stronger."
For those that don't have a background let me explain a bit. Other than the obvious 'duh' of don't hit yourself with a hammer, she wasn't all wrong. As far as body growth goes there's this concept called "Wolff's Law" which at its core states that the body becomes stronger by applying stress to the body. But this happens in relation to the force applied. For the long load bearing bones, the vectors of force usually applied are approximately along the long axis of the bone, making them stronger in resisting this force. However, they aren't as strong at resisting a crushing force perpendicular to this axis and so these hammer blows were causing micro fractures in the bone and not healing.
TL;DR the athlete had pain in her shins, we didn't know why. Found out she was hitting her shins with a hammer, we said "stop that, dummy"
It just happens. A good amount is the bastardization of research titles, half-truths from research, or taking information from a disreputable or anomalous study then printing it in tabloids, clickbait or the like. there's just a lot of mis-information out there that is doing a disservice to the population at large.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:04:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: I'm not a doctor, but a hospital was involved
I was getting a regular medical check up, my first time at at this clinic. The nurse taking my vitals and usual introductory processing. She gets to asking me about any medications I'm on. I told her about my anti-depressant, my only med, and she responds with "haha, you kids these days are so soft"
I looked at her, reminded her (as my age is on the chart) that I'm 32, and some people suffer from chemical Imbalances and depression/anxiety. She just shrugged, said the doctor would see me soon and left.
The doctor asks if I wanted the flu vaccine while there, I agree, and find out the same nurse is the one giving me the shot. I hadn't had one in a while, and asked if it's normal to not feel the shot, and she just laughed hysterically and said "only if you're good at it," to which I told her she shouldn't really suggest she's bad at it, and forewent the shot until another visit
Oh man, not to take away from your pain, because I imagine that if you were already depressed it must have been crushing. I'm sorry, friend.
I just wanted to share with you, b/c I know you'll get it, my experience with a suicide hotline. I get my healthcare from a large, multi-doctor hospital with a huge mental health department that staffs its own crisis hotline. So the woman (who was an LMFT I should mention) who picked up on me had my chart right in front of her, with all my depression and anxiety records, back to my first suicide attempt at 13. I told her I was in crisis, I was stressing about my midterm later that day (because that's what I fucking do, I stress) and she told me "Well, if it doesn't make you happy, why are you majoring in math?"
When I went to the doctor to get medication for my depression and anxiety (I had seen a specialist and whatnot as well), he was asking me the general questions about if I self harmed and how I was feeling. He concluded that my depression was a '2 or 3 out of 10'. Yeah thanks for making my feelings mostly invalid, which was something I was very insecure about at the time. A 3 to him could have felt like a 10 to me and I felt like it was a super insensitive thing for him to say to me, especially when I was so fragile.
I'd pussy out of a flu shot too, if the nurse seemed extremely unprofessional.
I'm not about to be stabbed by someone who acts like they just wandered in off the street, put on a nurse outfit, and the doctor didn't notice.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:38:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I decided not to let this imbecile hold a sharp object near my naked skin as she implied she wasn't qualified to do so.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 06:44:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fucking flu shot, you pussy. A drunk eight year old could do it.
Beviah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since when? First of all, drunk eight year olds seem common where you live, not surprised judging by your intelligence quotient (or lack thereof, rather), where people like myself and OP come from, we're from a mystical, magical place referred to as "civilization", where things have morals and logic, something you seem to be lacking, second of all, let's address the fact you probably didn't know there were different injections that could be administered, and don't even know how to administer an injection properly but yet feel the need to tell someone else that you felt they were subhuman, solely on the basis for not allowing someone who seems to be that of your species to give them a flu shot?
Perhaps I should explain this to you, slowly and clearly, but, what is wrong with you? I'm genuinely curious, this thread is in dedication for those like yourself, so, let's add to this thread right now, what other stupid things do you feel like saying?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
QQ moar pl0x
Beviah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:50 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other words:
"I'm 13 btw haha"
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:47 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever makes you feel better, kiddo.
Beviah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:58 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"QQ moar pl0x"
"Kiddo"
๐ค
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:36 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're the one still salty about it so I'd say my job is done, kiddo =.=
I was an intern on the Transplant service and a patient was urgently re-admitted to evaluate her kidney transplant. She was taking an immunosuppressant called Tacrolimus and it's dosed up until your blood levels reach the right number. So you leave the hospital with 1mg pills and 0.5 mg pills and you end up taking some combination of the two.
This poor lady asked her nurse if the two bottles of medication were the same and the nurse said "yes" as in they're both Tacrolimus. The patient took it to mean they were entirely interchangeable. So when she was told to take "X and a half pills" she was cutting her pills in half but she had mixed them together so she could have been under dosing her meds by quite a bit. Fortunately her nephrologist caught on at her follow up appointment and sent her to the hospital.
She was distraught when I admitted her to the hospital because she was afraid of losing her new kidney. She was also really angry at the nurse for not explaining the medications better because "Nobody told me 0.5 is a half!! Nobody told me!" And I realized at that moment this 40-some year old woman didn't understand basic fractions. And I don't blame the nurse for not realizing this but I took it as a lesson that you really can't assume your patients know what you're talking about.
enocc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today I told a woman that getting a certain item at my store would be an additional x amount of dollars. After I rang it up she got confused as to why the total was more than before.
I fucking said additional. I swear, whenever people I know insist that the general population isn't full of idiots I laugh at them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:50 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor here. Older diabetic patient (diabetic for many years), sugars were too high over a few months despite maximal oral medication, next step- 'the dreaded insulin'. Mentioned that she'd need to start insulin, she recoiled in horror, then said "I guess I'd better cut back on the cakes and biscuits then". I was stunned that she was still eating whatever she liked (sweet tooth, obviously) after multiple years of diabetes education, that she just didn't "get it".
Hefzy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay so i had this twenty-something patient, she came to me because she wanted to learn about anticonceptive methods. Everything was pretty well, until we got to the femenine condom. After paying attention to my every word, she asks : "And...if i decide to use a femenine condom, does that mean that i'm going to lose my virginity?" I just looked at her like...dude...dude.
Had a bilingual patient who drank his enema before a butt procedure.
When asked if everything went OK with the enema, he responded that it tasted bad. Fortunately, the physician spoke Arabic and figured out he did in fact drink his butt wash. Poison control was called and he was monitored for four hours without any issue. Explicit instructions were given to him for his rescheduled surgery.
Not a doctor, im a nurse. Once had family of a brain dead patient ask when she will wake up from her coma. Cant count how many times i had to explain you dont need antibiotics for viral infections. Lots of people think a blood test will show hiv or other sti's a few moments after having sex. Erectile dysfunction is not something you get checked out in the er. Neither is a callus on the bottom of your foot, and no you cant have a note to skip work for it. You dont call 911 for a sore throat.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:00:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what colour urine did he pee out for the last 55 years................
My mother is a nurse and I had to explain to her that women masturbate. She was in her sixties at the time and had just never come across anything about it, never occurred to her to do it at all.
Neonatologist here, I've just delivered a beautiful baby boy, and the father asked me "if the baby can still breath under the water", the guy was a lawyer...
Brittcom ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:35:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend, who was attending school to become a nurse, thought that babies were in the belly... the belly. I was pregnant with my daughter 13 years ago and had to have a conversation with her about my uterus. She was shocked. Funny side note, her mom was sitting with us in her kitchen when we had this convo. She looked so embarrassed, like she knew she should have told her about this years ago.
Had a pt that wanted to get pregnant and could not. Turns out she was on oral contraceptives to treat her polycystic ovarian syndrome and could not understand why it worked as birth control if she wasn't taking it as a contraceptive. It still would be difficult for her to get pregnant without the contraceptives but she just couldn't understand.
Not a doctor but used to work in an ER as a tech. Had a hispanic family come in because their kid had the flu. We gave them tylenol, fever went down, we sent them home...routine right? Nope.
Four hours later, family comes back saying that the kid has a fever again. The doctor then had to go in and ask, "soooo did you give him tylenol again?" They didnt, they thought the one dose cured him. Little sad, but also a facepalm moment.
I had to inform my 22 yr old cousin that the rule her bible college had of "boys and girls must sit at least 3 ft away from each other in a hot tub" did not mean it was possible for a girl to become pregnant if she sat too close to a boy.
And to this day, the tall girls on the ski and basketball teams forfeited their competitions the day after hot tub night due to "tendonitis" and "tennis elbow"
i picture a bunch of religious dorks with some kind of underwater apparatus designed to sneakily touch each other in the hot tub. like the claw, but sexier.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:29:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was sent to imaging for ob/gyn related stuff and the attending nurse told me the patient she had before me wasn't aware that she didn't have a uterus. I guess it went along the lines of, nurse: "oh wow, you've had your uterus removed?" patient: "I wasn't aware". Hmmm
Did patient H&Ps on a cardiac care unit once. A lot of these patients have comorbidities including diabetes, high blood pressure, etc. A surprising number of them don't know that fruit juice has a ton of sugar in it.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:42:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No, Diet Coke is not sufficient to manage your blood sugar"
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would bet that nurses have more of these conversations than doctors do. The RN is with the patient for 12 hours at a time qhere as the doctor comes in for 15 minutes and then bolts.
Where do I go to get 15 minutes with a doctor? I've never in my life had more than five minutes with a doctor (that wasn't delivering a baby or performing surgery) and if I was lucky I got ten minutes with a PA.
FYI: great for healthy patients but I promise you cannot condense the evaluation of a patient with an undiagnosed autoimmune disorder into 5-10 minutes. Something will be missed. Took 20 years to get help.
-In the Newborn Nursery asked a 1st time mother how the child was feeding, her response: "I have to feed it?".....
-In the ER had a young girl state she couldn't be pregnant, she was on the pill she..."put one in" every day....
-Per a colleague had a patient present in DKA, recently diagnosed diabetic on insulin, after treatment and recovery the patient insisted he was taking his insulin regularly when asked how he told the nurse "well give me an orange." Many patients are taught to give themselves injections on fruit, he apparently stopped paying attention at this point and had been injecting oranges with insulin and then eating them....
TL;DR:
1. You have to feed babies
2. Oral Contraceptive Pills need to be taken Orally
3. Subcutaneous Insulin does not work in fruit
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the number of women who "put one in" instead orally consuming the BC pill is too high!
After reading this thread one thing that NEEDS to be taught and that is sex ed and basic human biology in classes.
Also many people in general are so damn useless!!
oz_moses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YES!
Which is why what really needs to be taught is: Stop Breeding Just Because You Can.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:14:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay not a doctor but I saw a dental hygienist comment so I figured I'm good. I'm an optician and the amount of times people came in with fucking conjunctivitis was astounding. Every single one of them from wearing contacts too long, or doing something equally gross like swishing them around in a mouth full of spit to clean them. TAKE YOUR FUCKING CONTACTS OUT. Just because the box says thirty days doesn't mean you can keep them in for thirty straight days. (Or over a year which still blows my mind, would you wear the same underpants for a year straight without washing them? Those are your eyes damnit!)
Also people in the US. We don't give a damn that you have a box, we need an Rx or you won't get the contacts. My favorite excuse is "but I can't see without them"
So your 20/400+ and don't own a pair of glasses? I'm sorry but I have no sympathy at all.
shadfc ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humor me a little on why I need a prescription for contacts/glasses. I get that I need to see a doctor for the exam and to get the right prescription but once I know that, what's the purpose? Is it just to make sure people get seen semi regularly to update it in case their vision changes?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With contacts the federal government requires a doctor to see a patient to renew the Rx because contacts are a medical device that makes direct prolonged contact with organ tissue. As such abuse of the device can lead to serious consequences for the patient. Loss of sight, loss of tissues, ECT ECT. Docs need to make sure your not being an idiot with your contacts. Andnthebrx is different from your glasses Rx because contacts need to have different power and account for shape of the cornea and wearing modality.
Glasses on the other hand, those laws are state by state. Honestly man unless your diabetic or something you know if you need new glasses and shouldn't have to see a doc unless you want them renewed. Still a good habit, like the dentist, to see at least an optometrist every few years. Eye exams can show you a lot and I can't count how many times my doctor has caught shit you wouldn't expect. Saved some lives in some cases, like catching small strokes before the big one hit. But I'd be lying to you if I told you that making glasses rxs expire wasn't just a way to get you to buy more glasses. Naturally your eyes go through periods of change, due to age or environment or both. In many states a guy in my profession can neutralize a pair of broken glasses to get your Rx off of them if you want. Big shops like Lenscrafters and Visionworks discourage this but in some states can't stop me from doing it. But when you need a new Rx, and you will at some point, you'll know it. But a lot of people go years without their Rx needing to be changed. Some people do need it tweeked more often, bit again it's your eyes, you'll know if you need a better Rx if your paying attention and know what a good one can do for you. Doctors will always say in a retailer that your Rx has changed but in reality it may not be that different. Hope you get an honest optician, like myself who would shoot straight with you. I always found people appreciated the truth. Glasses are fucking expensive, I hate the way the industry screws people sometimes. Any other questions feel free man.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:54:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to report that damn doctor man that's fucking wrong.
I've got a (fortunately) far less serious example. My right (gas-perm) contact was bothering me for about a year and a half: drying out soon after I put it in, lots of gunk in the corner of my eye at the end of the day, etc. My optometrist recommended a certain brand of eyedrops, and gave the lens a few thorough cleanings, but nothing worked.
Then I tried a different office, and they immediately figured out that the lens had changed shape slightly, and fixed me up with a new one.
Its still one of those simple solutions that should have been caught quickly. That is really a pain in the ass and they should have been more observant. Youre lucky that it didnt cause eye damage!
Well, to be honest (and horribly grossed out) I in fact DO know a girl who, in high school, never washed her underwear. "Mom said I can just wear them till they wear out. If you wash them they wear out faster". She had multiple shirts and pants but WOWZA did she smell!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still not okay, the contacts are designed only to last a month, and will begin breaking down after that. So within the month, the surface that touches your eye is nice and smooth. After that, it breaks down so it becomes rough and bumpy. This leads to irritation, dry eyes, and exposes the surface of your eye to bacteria more easily because it can get stuck in the rough surface of both the contact and your eye
I had a woman with vaginal prolapse stick a Potatoe up her vagina to "keep it in place". Ended up coming to hospital with sepsis and a Potatoe with roots grown into her vaginal wall. Freaking crazy. Sometimes I wonder why there's such a huge IQ gap between humans.
Oh, fucking Jesus. That's like some paranormal horror story where instead of seeing a doctor, she would have planted herself, the roots would grow through her body and she would become a new species of potato. Meatnpotato.
jjpdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:11:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some if not all states do allow you to get a state ID. Similar requirements as a drivers licence just no driver exam. I knew a few people who got them when they where 18 or 21 because they did not drive but needed ID.
also
Unless the stalemate between Pennsylvania and the Department of Homeland Security breaks starting in 2018 a PA drivers licence will no longer be accepted for domestic air travel.
It is already no longer accepted at federal buildings, military bases, and nuclear power plants
Shifty link because I'm on mobile and can't be bothered to find a more reputable source, but I remember seeing this when going through security a week ago.
I'm not sure about CA, but in MO (assuming the government doesn't get off their asses and do something about it) you will need a passport to fly anywhere as of next January. Now, if she was driving, that's particularly bad.
IMO though, I usually recommend getting a passport if it's economically feasible. They're just easier to deal with while traveling.
Not for things like buying cigarettes or liquor. Passports don't have things like your weight, height, or eye color to definitively say whether it's you or not.
Don't ask me why we can fly internationally without that info but need it to buy smokes.
Huh, here in the UK neither passports nor driving licenses have that information. You have to be 18 to buy alcohol and you generally won't be asked for ID after the age of 20.
I live in Miami. It's a different fucking country down here.
shadfc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's coming true for Minnesotans (where I live) and some other states when traveling via air. Looks like TSA won't accept our drivers licenses starting around Feb 1
pinks1ip ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom sounds like she belonged in Florida the whole time. ZING!
This is actually true to an extent. Getting really cold lowers your immune system and makes it easier for a flu to infect you. This is especially true in cases where a person may already be carrying a flu or some type of virus in them that hasn't manifested yet but the exposure to cold and the toll it takes on the body allows for the flu to take shape. So, while being cold doesn't give you a cold it does have a possible effect on getting a cold and people often speak in generalities, especially parents.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:02:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that's actually been proven yet and some studies even show that being cold can boost the immune system
SirX86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. People from before we had microscopes may have mistaken correlation for causality but they weren't completely clueless.
My mother badger me this about this all the time. She is also convinced that if she is cold (which is always) then everyone is cold also, despite our claims that it's actually rather warm.
It's mostly Guys in my family, but even among them I am always abnormally warm. Even in the middle of January with the thinnest sheet I have and the fan I still will have trouble sleeping cus I'm so warm
My mother is also the type of person who is always right, meaning that no matter how wrong she is, she is still somehow "right". If she offers to do something and you say no, she doesn't it anyway because she's right. You tell her specifically not to do something, she'll do it anyway because mother knows best. You might tell her that every utterance that just left her mouth is as incorrect as could possibly be regarding a subject, whatever, she'll keep telling you the same thing tomorrow
Ah yes. I mean my mom isn't that bad but I've seen that quality in some degree in most mothers. Even my grandmothers.
As for temperature, I have the opposite problem. I run cold. Of course I work near a server room and my apartment is on the ground floor so in every scenario the temperature is slightly chilly even for the average dude. And I'm an unaverage chick.
being cold does "weaken" your bodies immune system, so while the cold may not cause an infection it could lead to a great chance of being infected, definitely.
riptaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There have been recent studies that show the cold virus is more active during cold weather - so while being cold won't give you a cold, you have a higher chance of catching it in cold weather...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep seeing this everywhere. It's not completely true. Rhinovirus (one virus that can cause common cold) incubates better below normal human temperature (91ยฐ-95ยฐF). So, you are more likely to become infected with the cold virus if your face and nose are cold when exposed.
My parents insisted that my daughter was getting sick so often is because I'm not dressing her warmly enough. It can't possibly be that it was her first year of school surrounded by other germ factories.
third year med student at a top US medical school didnt know what cognition meant and when explained still didnt understand. the end result was me going "you know. thinking. with your brain." they laughed and what "whaaaat?".
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if he didn't learn properly as a child, he'd have to figure something was up in his 20s, wouldn't he? I mean, had he never washed a car before? Or a floor? Or a counter top?
In this linked case report, a woman kept coming to the ED with abdominal pain and free air in her belly, which is treated as a surgical emergency. After multiple exploratory laparotomies, which found nothing, they discovered that this woman kept getting free air in her belly because her sexual partner kept blowing air into her vagina, which eventually went into her uterus and out her fallopian tubes. I can't imagine what that conversation was like! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11051188
As a dentist, I sometimes find that I have to explain to my patients that it's the LOWER jaw they have to move, not the upper. And still they think they can somehow move their upper jaw.
Not a doctor, but work in a pharmacy. We get people ALL THE TIME trying to fill multiple narcotics because 'ones for my knees and the other is for my back'. Oh. Okay. Let me fill the oxy and other oxy for you.
I had a patient that wanted to sign herself out of the emergency room that the ambulance had just brought her to because her room didn't have a television in it. She had a life threatening breathing condition.
I'm not a doctor but I was a corpsman for five years and this lady came in for a pap smear and we (the PA and myself) found a tampon inside of her vagina she'd forgotten about for the past month... One of the most disgusting if not the top disgusting thing I have ever seen or smelled while I was in the service. How the fuck does someone just forget about a tampon? How do you not notice your vagina smelling like rotten death?
She was married and her husband liked having with with her every night, too.
not a doctor, but I went to a Greek orthodox high school and had to explain to a class mate that condoms did not cause HIV. He thought that when condoms break, that HIV magically manifests, and so he refused to use them with his girlfriend. To make matters worst, this was in class with the teacher present, and she was unsure who was right or wrong. I then had to explain that HIV is the name of the disease and that AIDS was the end result, this lead to several minutes of arguing in the class room. To be fair, I transferred in the 10th grade, so I had gone through 3 years of sex ed while the rest of my classmates had gone to school there exclusively.
dropdgmz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:55:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not a doctor but i work in a medical office and I overheard a provider explain to a 20 year old that you cant get AIDS from someone who doesn't have it. When people have sex they cant just make AIDS, it has to come from someone who actually has it. I dont know how the rest of the conversation went, but Maybe she thought sex was like a chemical experiment and what you get in the end is a mystery and could be devastating to your life.
So I was a 3rd year medical student working in Pelenomi hospital, Bloemfontein, South Africa.
As part of our rotation we have to attend deliveries (births)
So here we are standing in a room - three students in our white coats peering over the shoulder of the midwife when the husband taps me on the shoulder.
Now to picture this guy - you might want to have a look at ninja from "die antwoord" (the stereotypical 'common' zef afrikaans folk, I'm not certain what terminology would be used in USA)
This guy then asks me - oblivious to what's happening with his wife (in Afrikaans) - "so Doc, how long before I can hit that again?"
(In Afrikaans. "So dok, hoe lank voordat ek haar weer kan kap?"
I made up some BS and told him to wait at least six months (however I don't think he listened)
Had to instruct a mid twenties gal that she is having recurring UTI because she needs to 1. Wipe front to back 2. Not cram multiple monastats to treat her symptoms 3. To never douche, nope not every few days.
I then had to tell her that she will have a rough smelling vagina for a few days to weeks while this sorts itself out and returns to baseline.
I've worked in the medical field for a while and I can't tell you how many times I've head older patients come in and say "absolutely not -nope I am not having a routine colonoscopy" and bitch and complain about it. Almost everyone over 40 has some type of colon polyps, usually benign but if you don't get them removed early they can turn into cancer. 90 percent of all patients are total idiots who often refuse preventive care. Ugh
My dad has routine colonoscopies (his mother died from bowel cancer...by the time she went to get checked out it was stage 4 and metastasised) and he says the worst part is the uhh...preparation beforehand. The actual procedure is fine. You go...they knock you out. Done.
The prep SUCKS you have to drink some nasty stuff! The colonoscopy itself no big deal. They put you out and you wake up. I go again soon to make sure the cancer hasn't returned.
It's really not that bad. I've done it four times now and yes it's really important for cancer prevention, so everyone should do it. And all the other preventive shit doctors tell you to do lol
I've had two, and I'm not even 30 yet. The prep is the only bad part. Although, IV's aren't my favorite thing either. It's really important for people to do especially if they have family history of colon cancer like me.
Son of a short practicing nurse here, one day my mom ranted at the TV about one of those prevent cancer foundation commercials saying
"With how much money they have, how have they not found a cure!?"
"Mom, do you even know what cancer is?"
". . . no"
The woman who bragged to me she was a nurse everybody!
I am not a doctor. I work in Radiology and our registration workers wouldn't place a patient identification band on someone who was positive for AIDS. They were in fear of "catching" AIDS. It is truly sad the ignorance people have.
Had a 33 yr old female explain to me in clinic that she was having abdominal pain, bloating and cramping. It was usually mild and occurred like clockwork every month, a couple days before she would start her period. This is how she knows that her period was going to start. She wanted to know if this was normal, or a sign of something more sinister.
I thought most women figured this out at about age 13. (Also the age of her menarche).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors always get pissed at me for googling symptoms... I bet they are so shocked when someone doesn't know something basic like this.
I'm a nurse. I had a patient come in, can't remember what for. But I remember that, as part of his initial assessment, I asked him when his last bowel movement was. He gave me a blank stare and asked "what?" I assumed he hadn't heard me, so I repeated louder: "When was your last bowel movement?" Again, blank stare, looked at me and said "A what?" Me: "Bowel movement? Poop?" He looks at me and goes "YOU MEAN A SHIT?" I finally realized that this man had no idea what a bowel movement was and only knew it by that word. So I had to look at the patient and go "Yeah. When was your last shit?"
Side note: later realized he was on the lower end of the IQ spectrum. Lived at home with his dad, even though the patient was well into his 40s. Also very backwoods.
Don't feel bad- I was doing diabetic and kidney DS diet teaching with a pt when he opened up a bag of flaming hot Cheetos in the middle of the session.
Had a patient get discharged one time on a cardiac/diabetic/renal diet. I looked at another nurse and was just like "Shit, what's this poor guy going to eat?" Vegetables and water, I guess. Just not starchy vegetables. Or veggies high in potassium. But not too much water because he was on a fluid restriction.
KaraWolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..at that point I'd ask for a list of approved food choices. Jease.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..at that point I'd ask for a list of approved food choices. Jease.
My aunt once ran to the doc in hurry with her second child. My little cousin had a TicTac in his nose quite deeply. The doctor had to remind her that he can still breathe through his mouth.
The doc lived right next to her house so I think she was really quick to do such things without thinking about it.
I was going to say maybe hospitals should start providing instruction manuals on babies for parents so you'll get less of these calls, but it probably wouldn't help since most people wouldn't read it even if they were given one...
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:22:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom was a nurse in a neo natal unit. Had to convince a young girl who just delivered her baby to please, PLEASE not name her baby girl Placenta even though she thought "it sounded cute".
When I was a teenager, my mother took me to a doctor for a checkup and asked him, in complete seriousness, if there was a chance I could "catch the gay" by attending a performing arts summer camp I had wanted to go to. I sat there completely baffled by the question while the doctor calmly explained to her that homosexuality was neither contagious nor a disease. Somehow, despite 20 years of marriage to a doctor, no one had ever explained to her how being gay worked.
[deleted] ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 21:03:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am nurse but: took a urinary catheter out of a patient once and handed him a urinal. I called it a urinal and took the lid off. He asked me what it was for. He was 23 year old college student and I pretty much had to explain to him how to piss into a bottle.
It's not about strength, it's about proper lifting technique and body mechanics.
beeyonca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lift with your legs, not your back.
rockeh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume there were a couple of Polish lads present and OP was like "Yes, whenever you need to pee, just have Pawel and Jarek here install it on the nearest wall."
kmturg ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 21:40:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For most people a urinal is made of porcelain and is stuck to a public bathroom wall. Unless he's been hospitalized before or in a medical field, I'd give this a pass.
I'd imagine that's pretty high on the list of etiquette rules: when someone hands you a container, make absolutely sure you're supposed to piss in it before you whip your dick out.
tucci007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually came up with this one many years ago when I was out in a fishing boat with my buddy and his dad. Rather than standing and peeing over the side we'd use the bail bucket which became the musical piss bucket. It was quite a hit that day.
I am a girl, and I know what those things are/look like. I mean, maybe he wouldn't have ever seen one, so I'm glad he had lived such a fortunate life where he had never seen a male loved one hospitalized.
kmturg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm female also and my brother was in and out of the hospital from the time I was 12 until I was 27. He always had catheters.
kmturg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe me the catheter was the least of his worries.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was his first hospitalization, and I explained everything thoroughly because I knew this. I think he was really really embarrassed that I was having to deal with his penis at all.
It's harder than you think if no one explained it to you. You need to lean way over (if you're on your back) because of gravity. Wouldn't think of it until after.
Eh, I can see how he wouldn't know. Hearing a nurse say urinal and you're not in the bathroom then they hand you a bucket type thing, maybe you heard them wrong? Makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I explained that I was taking his catheter out and he would need to pee. Handed him a urinal said, "this is your urinal so you don't have to get out of the bed to go to the bathroom" and removed the lid. Then repeated myself a few times when I got the blank stare. He definitely was old enough, educated enough to know what a urinal was and I felt I explained myself well, which is why the whole situation was so bizarre. He was a sweet guy, bless his heart. And he definitely did not want me anywhere near his penis, and asked me to keep the covers over him when I was removing the catheter. I think the misunderstanding may have stemmed mostly from him being really embarrassed about the whole situation. I was also his age when this happened.
That's what I was thinking. Sometimes I feel like I sound dumb in a doctors office/EM situation because I'm nervous and scared and have this in my mind that I don't know what's going on.
lecomish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mom was a nurse for forty years. One of her favorite stories concerns a gentleman who inserted a suppository up his urethra.
sopwath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Just... no...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I loved when I got handed a urinal. Pissed into it and threads of my kidney came out. I hate kidney stones. Still, I'll take A KS x5 over the horrible things I've read.
Patient told us: "I need not take any drugs... I eat garlic!"
That was completely true.
Patient ate garlic.
The whole practice smelled like a garlic swamp.
8:30 in the morning.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL garlic is a pretty good blood thinner.
But really, I can't recall why patient presented. May have been somewhat kidney-related and/or something with blood pressure.
I had to explain to college-age male friends that the urethra and vagina were separate holes. Neither believed me - insisted they had been "down there" and I was mistaken
I had a 21yo lady presenting with diabetic ketoacidosis on background of type 1 diabetes. She was lucid on presentation. In my hospital this is an automatic entry to the ICU ($6000 a day to the taxpayers). I was tasked with hooking the drips up (to run fluids, insulin with dextrose), but she threw a tantrum and not wanting the drips. She's competent and could make her decision of course, but everyone knew it was just a tantrum. In the end I had to call her mother to coax her into it and I wasted 1.5 hours just to do that. It took me just 1 minute to put the cannula in.
My brother (an OD) told my of a patient of his when he was doing his residency in Philadelphia that was having bowel issues and he prescribed him suppositories. Well, within days the patient was back still complaining of stomach pain. My brother and the attending asked if he was taking the prescribed suppositories and he said, "I was, but they are so hard to swallow"
My dad shared an ER room with a man who had been to the ER 52 times in a year for various made up reasons ranging from heart attack to poisoning. When the nurse asked how much he had to drink that night he said he had about 18 Natural Lights, 1 handler of Crown and 2 joints.
Not a doctor, I'm a nurse. I had a 80 year old woman hold up a tub of Corona ointment and ask 'how often can I put this inside my vagina'. After the initial horror wore off I informed her that she could never put it inside of her vagina. When I told the NP she stared at me in horror for a full two minutes before responding.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had to explain to my traditional Chinese and lesbian colleagues how a condom works. "How does it stay on?" "Do you have to pull it back over the testicles?" "What if I put it on inside out?" "Does it still protect you from HIV if you take it off?"
Had a patient with an infected wound who, instead of taking his antibiotic capsules by mouth, manually opened each capsule and threw the powder into the wound as a dressing. Really didn't think I needed to tell him that they were meant to be swallowed. My bad apparently
Not a doctor but used to work in a chemo clinic. A patient brought in her phlegm wrapped in a paper towel from the night before and thought I should use it for research. I had to of course explain that I wasn't researching phlegm at the moment but thanks.
subnero ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:21:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Yes, these people are allowed to vote.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:22:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think they recently have
Brealu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me but another provider. He had to have a conversation with a higher ranking Officer's wife that light didn't come out the other ear when using an otoscope. Made for a good laugh. Hell, maybe it did shine through on them!
gaqua ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:12:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my cousin was convinced that oral sex was just talking dirty to her boyfriend over the phone.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a while I thought a blowjob was just that. Blow on it. Until I told one person and they laughed then straightened me out.
Don't really know if this would count since I'm the guy that fucked up and no doc was ever involved.
After 22 years I found out that the "soap" for your intimate parts (don't really know how to best describe it since English is not my first language) should only be used on the outside of your penis...
Not the inside...
Now I'll have to go get a check up just to be sure...
I'm not an optometrist or anything but I had a 30 minute conversation with a grown ass man about how if someone put their glasses on upside down the world wouldn't be flipped.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thay would be so much FUN though! Tis how I'd wear mine if this were true.
KaraWolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah! I used to hang upside down to make the world upside down as a kid cause someone said it would work. Sadly its harder to do then just hanging.
Brother's a somewhat fresh doc at the local hospital
No it's nothing unusual that if you smoke weed everyday before sleeping, you can't properly fall asleep if you don't
also
Stop masturbating when it's bleeding
and my personal favourite:
You probably should not complain over the food if you are in for the second AMI this year. Dude. Stop eating everything.
Apparently this last sentence also has a standardized version because people complain over unfriendly doctors.
frankitx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked in Ob/Gyn for a while, had to explain to a patient that oral contraceptive pills are swallowed, not inserted vaginally. This was after she had been taking them for two years and came in complaining she was pregnant.
xxgeexx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:01:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse which is completely irrelevant to this story but anyway not a Doctor, I have two sets of twin brothers, i was with my brother and his girlfriend and we were talking about having children and she said she couldn't believe our mum had another child after how hard it must of been for her to be pregnant for 18 months. Yes she thought twins = an 18 month pregnancy, in retrospect i'm impressed she knew human pregnancy lasted for 9 months and she did the maths correctly.
Not a doctor but had to explain to the same patient for over a month that her open and rotted wound was because she refused to get her insulin script filled. Good times watching it get bigger and funkier.
This was around the time where Florida had that that bath salts guy eating that other guys' face. I convinced it was a zombie attack. She firmly believed it. Until one day, in a meeting, we were all discussing current events and she brought up that we need to all be careful when goingto Florida since that's where all the zombies are being quarantined. After the meeting I had to explain my innocent joke.
"My arm's not broken, it's fractured." Whole family present, listened carefully to education on break = fracture.
redstern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of this really dumb kid at my high school that broke his arm, cut his cast off the next day, and insisted it was fine because it didn't hurt and it was just fractured.
Thank you for this validation. I had to have this argument as a teenager when I broke my arm. My "friend" kept insisting I was being dramatic because it was "only" fractured.
Mind you my other arm was sprained, ribs cracked, and chin busted up. Because while I was riding my horse and he fell on me. But I was being dramatic.
Yes, lol. It was fun trying to climb out of bed in that condition. Or bathe. Or get dressed. Or cut my food.
str141 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but my roommate freaked out when I told him my husband had a vasectomy. He was just positive that once a man got that done, he could no longer reach orgasm or cum. I had to google anatomy pictures and explain it to him more then once.
He's 40+
His mind was totally blown. He's still not 100% convinced we are telling the truth. He also doesn't believe us that Narwhals are real. Could be due to the fact that we always mess around with him like family. We had him hunting Snipe for an hour one day. He's that kind of "bonus family" I have to give him credit, he's an amazing sport! We are kind of hard on him sometimes.
rockeh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:25:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did meet a guy once, he was about 25 or so, who was convinced narwhals were a made-up reddit thing (this was at the height of the narwhal baconing at midnight thing)
Not a doctor, but an amusing story nonetheless.
Very dear friend of my wife (let's call her Alice) and her soon to be husband came from Evangelical Christian families. Both were in their 30's, virgins, and waited to get married before doing anything below the waist. About a week after the honeymoon, my wife got the following text exchange:
Alice: Got a sec? Got a few questions about...the bedroom.
Wife: Sure. Everything OK?
Alice: I guess so. I just didn't realize sex is really messy!
This was 5 years ago. Three kids later, still happily married.
riptaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"amusing"
GX578 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was in residency. A patient in her mid 20s comes in to discuss her periods. Turns out she had been on the depot pro era shot since her teens and had never had a period. She had recently switched to birth control pills and when her period started she literally had no idea what was going on. My friend (a female) literally sat down with her and talked her through using pads/ tampons, getting period cramps, moodiness, etc. At some point she also mentioned that lots of people will treat themselves to comfort foods like chocolate to help get them through their "days". At the end of the visit the patient thanked her for the advice, but said "do I really have to eat chocolate the whole time I'm on my period?"
Neither of these are mine, but too good not to pass along.
My brother in law is a primary care doctor. Had a patient that came in with worms. No big deal. He gave her the meds and that should have been that. But it wasn't. Every time this woman came in, she had worms again. This happened two or three times before he figured it out. She had very long fake nails and wouldn't wash her hands after pooping. She literally had worm eggs under her long ass nails she was then feeding back to herself. He got to explain basic hygiene to a grown woman.
Also have a friend that's an obgyn. She had a patient come on with abdominal pain and some gross stuff going on downstairs. Asked the normal questions, when her last period ended etc. Answer was the week before. So she does an exam. She had not one, but THREE tampons up in there from the week before. Needless to say, they had a conversation not only about not sticking more than one up there, but also about taking them out in a timely fashion.
A mother's 13 year old daughter was sexually abused and molested by the mother's husband, the daughter's step-father โฆ for about two years before the daughter said something to stop it. He even confessed both in writing and in a statement to police.
The mother maintains to this day, nearly a year later, her daughter is also at fault; says she should have known better and must have enjoyed it since she allowed it to continue โฆ even suggesting she asked for it because it felt good. Adding: It wasn't real rape. She wasn't hurt.
I tried to explain a child who is victimized by an adult is never at fault. EVEN if the child asks; the adult should know better.
She compared it to children who commit murder, noting the only reason we don't blame the child in sexual abuse cases is because it's sexual and it makes more salacious news to run the adult through the public eye.
Tells the daughter she needs to get over it and forgive him so he can come back home. He's not a bad person. He won't do anything to hurt her.
Also thinks the daughter made it up despite the confession he wrote for her.
entdude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor ftw, but I had to reply. I was working at a restaurant as a waitress and there are a lot of people in the disabled community who come and eat there. Other waitress would never serve them in case she 'caught' their disabledness. Yes. Most special needs people who would come in would have MLD, SLD, Autism spectrum and a mixture of physical and & cognitive.
She is now around 6 months pregnant and I worry so much about that damn child.
Hi, I am your anaesthetist. Yes, I am a real doctor. Yes, anaesthesia is an medical specialty".
That and explaining to people, including family, that anaesthetists know a fair bit. We also stay with the patient for the whole case and administer anaesthetic continuously, not "give something to go to sleep and something else to wake up".
Not a doctor, but a former sexual health counselor. Some of my favorites include having to explain that:
A woman's birth control pills were meant to be taken by her, not her and her partner.
-Leaving the condom inside of you does NOT decrease the chances of pregnancy.
-It is was your partner, not your pregnancy, that caused you to develop chlamydia.
pockunit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yes, you and your boyfriend were both treated for chlamydia. You were both to abstain from sex for 7 days. No, he is not accurate when he tells you that his new infection occurred because he masturbated before the 7 days were up. Oh, honey."
0228 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:40:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 21. I volunteered as a sexual assault counselor/advocate- work crisis hotline, go to hospital calls to be with victim during rape kit. Basically, I had to explain to a 50 year old woman in a hospital gown, that just because the guy was a complete dickhead the next morning, last night was not rape.
0228 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:48:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are more people like you on twox than there are sjw's.
Geigen ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:36:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I was talking to a Navy doctor that was in Afghanistan. She would do community service missions where locals could come and receive doctor care to win hearts and minds. She said fairly regularly couples would come to her wondering why they could not conceive a child. It turned out almost every time that they were having only butt sex and didn't know any better. I guess that's what happens when you have a culture that is so strict yet somehow widely accepts men having sex with little boys.
xixoxixa ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The popular belief when I was in Afghanistan was that women were for breeding and boys were for pleasure.
You can get pregnant from anal if you're not careful and semen manages to make its way into the vagina. As we all know things can get a little messy down there and...well, sometimes accidents happen. It's very rare but it can happen. But of course no, you can't get pregnant if all the semen stays in the anus.
It's such a common thing for people to lie about and the test is cheap and easy. Better to just rule it out.
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KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive had this happen a couple of times. Ranging from on the shots to an IUD. I pretty much always end up pissing in a cup unless its been several months since Id seen my SO and could claim 3 months worth of abstense. And those weren't for ER visits or even anything that ended up needing meds. I was kind of expecting you to point out you're a dude lol I also keep refusing STD checks(thats the only reason they wanted me to come in). Im clean and i have no doubts both of us are faithful and havent played in anyone elses blood recently.
Not a doctor, but work alongside them in the ER. Had a girl in her 20's and her SO attempting to get pregnant with their 3rd child. She went to the restroom immediately after one of these attempts and became concerned when she noticed a white creamy discharge coming from her vagina. I had to listen while the doctor explained that the vagina is not in fact a vacuum and the laws of gravity do apply to semen.
The patient came to the ED with her mother, who knew the whole story and did not herself have an explanation for the mysterious goo.
So, my grandma is very uptight about money. She'll pinch every penny, save on everything she can and never hand out money (only on rare occasions). We live in Canada, she became a Canadian Citizen years ago and can redeem all the benefits of not paying for most Medical stuff here. She has diabetes already, takes medication for so many problems, but one day she ended up rolling off her bed. She landed wrongly and fucked up her bad something awful. She had tremendous pain in her back for the rest of the week. Didn't tell anyone in my family about it. She progressively gets worse and worse until she couldn't even get out of her bed (Thank god we had a social worker come check up on her 3 days a week), for the next time we heard about her was that she was in the hospital. She had a slipped disc. My grandma literally walked around, did all of her normal daily routines like go to the library, go to the store, go do laundry, etc for a week while is severe pain. All the while thinking she was just sore from falling off the bed. Why did she tell no one about it? Cause she thought if she did, she'd have to pay for it, and thought nothing was wrong, it'd go away eventually.
tl;dr - My grandma is a basic scourge. Fell off the bed, slipped her disc, carried on for a full week like nothing happened. Still crazy loveable gram gram.
Update: She's okay, she can walk fine now, disc removed and repaired. But she still won't say anything about her ever getting into any incidents or things that'll cause her to go back to the doctor.
IANAD but I work with a guy who developed kidney stones. When we asked him why he was still drinking a 2 liter bottle of Mountain Dew everyday he said, "My Doctor told me the citrus helps break up my kidney stones."
We don't know how he survived adolescents.
pockunit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:20:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I have a story that happened to me last year.
So I am an OSHA consultant and on a visit I'm talking with the owner of a lumberyard/sawmill. One of his employees comes up while I'm doing the walk-around with the owner and the guy goes " Hey boss, I got to go home for a bit because I pooped my pants"
The owner just looked at me and then says to his employee "Okay, see you a bit later"
Then acted like nothing was weird. I immediately asked him about if he had a bathroom nearby(OSHA has standards on water closets aka bathrooms) and he said yes it's right there. Which was directly next to where the pooped my pants guy was working.
As a tradesperson, honestly he likely wasn't kidding. A lot of guys on site eat garbage food, and drink fucktons of coffee, often out of necessity (site location, deadlines, skipped breaks, etc.). Combine that with a night of drinking, a drug problem, or just crazy long hours, and your body can kind of give up on you. I have seen more than one guy go home because he shit himself.
Hell, I have an intestinal condition so I've been pretty close, myself. Especially when it hits suddenly and I'm 10 floors up on a mast climber.
I'm a nurse and we have many frequent fliers who come in with COPD all the time. They're always begging to have a smoke and itching to go home to have a smoke. One was discharged the other day and stated he wasn't sure if he'd be able to purchase his $4 steroid prescription. I explained to him it was cheaper than a pack of cigarettes, which is part of his issue. Not all people with COPD are like this and manage their disease just fine at home. Even those that do come in are now non-smokers and are well aware of the connection between smoking and exacerbations.
I had a patient with chronic lung disease due to smoking who's lungs got so bad that he ended up needing to wear oxygen constantly at home. One day while I'm in the medical ICU we were being transferred a patient from an outside facility who weren't capable of handling a burn patient. Apparently, this man couldn't be bothered to quit smoking so while he had oxygen going he decided to smoke a cigarette with the comically obvious result of him basically lighting his face on fire and almost blowing up his house due to it being connected to the oxygen tank and so I had to have the conversation "please try not to use a lighter or smoke a cigarette near your oxygen tank or when you're smoking a cigarette"...
Not a doctor, but had a coworker who was in his last year of pre med. We were sitting around the office talking about our age, and my supervisor notes that he is 26. Pre med student turns to him and straight faced says "Did you know all the cells in your body are done replicating after 25?" I asked him if he meant the brain, as it ends development in males around that time. He still believes, to this day despite my attempts, that your cells no longer reproduce after 25.
I had to explain what a syringe was to 2 pharmacists at a Target....
vexor187 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:54:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER provider here, I can't even pick one moment out since there seems to be at least or more day. One thing I just don't understand is when I explain how STD transmission works, and the patient refuses to understand that the spouse has been stepping out on them. Can't tell if they're in denial or just not understanding.
I once had a patient who gargled hydrogen peroxide because he thought that it would make his sore throat feel better. I was seeing him because his sore throat was suddenly worse.
Bad call but in a very small percentage of water maybe it worked on a lodged parasite for one or two people in Tanzania or something. I've had a few people reccomend this to me!?
However, once had a throat infection from hell for over a month. Hardcore antibiotics, and various meds did nothing. Last resort I followed ancient wisdom of one of the first "doctors" Hippocrates. Apple cider vinegar gargled fixed me up in a day or two. Mentioned it to my doctor who says "Yes that can be an effective treatment!" Thanks a lot Doc for letting me know while I nearly died for a month. Makes one wonder if distrust of the medical establishment is bolstered by the odd effective homeopathic or natural treatment?
MikeyCed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:41:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me but my friend had to explain to a parent why they shouldn't do xrays for the sniffles
bhampson ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an 80 year old man that wanted Viagra. Me, being a responsible physician, tried to inquire if his heart was healthy enough for sex. His response "my wife and I don't have sex any more. Masturabating daily makes it so I don't wake up in the middle of the night to pee." I didn't know how how to respond so I wrote the prescription.
I remember that my sister (who was an A&E doctor) told me that she once had an elderly gentlemen come into the Emergency Department with a profusely bleeding nose.
On assessing him, he informed her that he didn't know why his nose was bleeding.
After inspecting his nose, it was revealed that he had a chronic nose-picking habit and had struck gold by picking away an old scab inside his nose.
My sister was speechless......
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:35:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a Doctor but once called a 50+ year old married man with at least one child (a daugter) that the vagina is not where women urinate from. He was making anal sex jokes, implying someone else was gay and thinking he was hilarious. He wasn't happy when I quickly and not very politely corrected him that he would not be having sex with a woman's 'pee hole'. He doesn't like medry much. I can't imagine why not.
I removed an ingrown toenail from a patient. He asked me if he can have sex. I didn't see a problem with the request.
In the followup appointment, his ingrown nail had a raging infection. I cultured it, and it came back as gonococcal. Apparently, when has asked about having sex, he meant with his toe. His wife was cheating on him.
My neighbor is a doctor, and she once had to explain to a 37-year-old man that the reason he got drunk so often was because he drank a lot of beer. Poor guy didn't know alcohol is what makes you drunk...
I once had a patient in the ED that came in for what he thought was stroke like symptoms. His symptom was he had numbness and tingling to all of his fingers. In the process of asking him what happened he proceded to tell me the day before he tried to get the last drop of hersheys chocolate syrup, he inhaled deeply and aspirated a tiny bit. From there he postulated that the numbness to his fingers a day later was him having a stroke. Of course he had no abnormalities on exam. He didn't have a stroke.
naunga ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I just had to explain to a woman on Facebook that no one can force you to get a Pap smear, and that you have to consent to everything a doctor does to you.
Nysoz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:12:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prescribed someone an inhaler once. They came back saying that it wasn't helping. Asked them to show me how they were using it. They proceeded to spray the inhaler on their neck like perfume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a doctor but my sister-in-law, as a nutritionist, regularly needs to explain to young parents that giving fruit juice to their kids is good
but that, no, Kool-Aid and Tang are NOT fruit juices. The confusion on their face is both sad and priceless, or so I'm told.
riptaway ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
riptaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, worse. Lots of fruit juices have more sugar than soda. Sunny delight has significantly more sugar than soda and is marketed exclusively towards kids
megakid ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:34:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you continue to smoke weed you will continue to have psychotic episodes.
Yes it still counts if someone else buys the weed.
I remember a 7 year old get brought in to the ED by her parents or parent (do not remember) for yelling and telling them she was going to kill them.
I just remember thinking "if I had a dollar for everytime my daughter screamed she was going to murder me...well I would have at least a 100 dollars."
Not sure what they will do when puberty strikes.
not a doctor, but I'm a pharmacy tech and I worked with a pharmacist that told me a story about a patient who accidentally got one of those desiccants in their med bottle that said "DO NOT EAT". So he said the patient came back to him telling him they were starving and said, "it's been like 4 days and I don't know how much longer I can last! Can I really not eat until the medication is done?"
Okay so when i was little i had the most bad ass, van drivin, construction workin, beer drinkin, tobacco chewin, spittoon spittin, grandfather ya ever done met. Anyway he ended up with alot of medical issues had a pace maker and was on oxygen what have you. I remember the day he got put on oxygen the doctor walked in and gave hi. His tank and hose and after about 5 minutes he decides "i need a dag gon cigaretter" and starts smoking in the hospital. Moments after the doctor comes in and says "sir you cant smoke in here" my grandfather gladly replies "wont you let me die in piece i cant even breathe correctly now im smoking wrong too?" In which the doctor replies "sir you cant smoke in a hospital anymore its not sanitary and besides that your oxygen tank could explode when you light one and sir arent you suppose to stop smoking? Thats whats landed you here" i think the explosion part freaked him out because he gave my dad the cigarette who put it out just to watch him pull a can of dip outta his back pocket and spit on the floor saying "i remember the good ol days where i could smoke where ever the fuck i wanted, am i free to go? And for your information i did quit.. just now didnt ya see me?" God i miss that old man. Didnt listen to no body.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least he stopped the hot burning gonna cause an explosion part of the habit? This made me lol.
Emlym ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:39:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her: clutches chest I'm having a heart attack!
Me: No, you're not having a heart attack, your boyfriend broke up with you
Her: My heart hurts, he broke my heart, I think I need a new heart!
Me: .......okay, drink some water
Proceeds to have lengthy conversation about where feelings come from.
I had to explain that the 13.1 and 26.2 bumper stickers on cars were in fact NOT radio stations, but that they were representing that people have completed half marathons or full marathons. She's a 46 year old woman and her reasoning was, "There's no way that that many people have run the same number of miles".
Edit: not a doctor but, I couldn't resist sharing her stupidity.
MoJo81 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you should rephrase the statement "Doctors of Reddit" to just "Hey folks does anyone know a medical story or can you make one up"
Legeto ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:47:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid I Had a doctor tell me my allergy rash (I was scratching the crap outta it and had nail marks) was scabies. This dude was dead set on it and wanted me to stay at the hospital. We just wanted normal allergy medicine and that pink cream you put on rashes to make it less itchy my mom insisted it was just allergies. He replied with " I will not let a women tell me how to do my job!" This was in the late 90s and on a military base. We ended up walking out on him and demanding a different doctor.
Grew up a military brat, and was horrified by this story, until I got to "military base". My reaction: "Oh, Tricare. Of course."
Legeto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yea tricare sucks. While I was in the military I had a stomach ulcer. My doctor refused to diagnose me for it. I had stomach pains for like 2 months and she told me to suck it up and gave me anti acids. One point even said it was gal bladder stones and I'd have to live with it. I knew straight up it was an ulcer and she just said I webMD the problem into my head. I eventually had the commander overhear my problem and he pulled some strings to get me to talk to another doctor and sure enough, he diagnosed me with an ulcer and my pain was gone within like two weeks.
Gluvin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:51:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Asking the father if he was circumcised or not and if they wanted baby to match daddy. Neither one knew the status of daddy's foreskin. OB had to look herself to tell them.
Lurlur ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:47:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Match daddy" is the most horrific thing I've read today.
Gluvin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine got pregnant at 15. We were discussing her impending motherhood and her boyfriend was talking about how they were excited to find out if it was a boy or girl. Somehow circumcision came up and when asked if they were going to have the baby done...
Mom: No, there's really no reason to do it. If there's an issue it can be fixed later in life.
Dad: Yes we are! Its cleaner!
Mom: No its not, you gotta wash a dick no matter what! Besides its pointless and painful.
Dad: Well i say we are, if it was good enough for me its good enough for my son.
Mom: odd look Babe, you aren't circumcised!
They argued about this for maybe ten minutes, then a mutual friend went to the bathroom to check if he had a foreskin. He did. Turns out none of his brothers were circumcised because Grandma thinks its mean to do to a little baby and that they could decide for themselves as adults.
They had a girl. (And are married now with a few more kids.)
Gluvin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe this is one of those things that is more common than we would like to think
This scares me. If you can't figure out reproductive anatomy and circumcision after Canadian public school sex ed. classes, you're an idiot. I had to take 3 different semesters of sex ed. classes throughout my schooling. One in grade 5, one in grade 9, and one in grade 12.
In America, I only ever took 1 Sex Ed. class, and it wasn't even a full semester of Sex Ed., it was just part of the class. Granted, the teacher was a brutally honest one who would answer any question honestly and openly (And accurately), but circumcision wasn't something that was ever touched upon (Or asked of the teacher).
I didn't know the difference until I discovered porn, honestly.
All I can imagine is a Doctor asking Dinosaur related questions to patients.
"Were there any mass extinctions between your periods?"
"Are you getting your proto-feathers in yet?"
"How many eggs did you lay in your last clutch?"
nagol93 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is turning the tables but:
My friend ate an entire Reaper Pepper once (Its genetically engineered to be the hottest pepper on earth). Shortly after he wosnt looking too good: extremely pale, couldnt stand, barely awake.
We took him to the ER and the nurse said this: "He ate a pepper and he needs a doctor??!?? Get out of here kids, I eat spicy food all the time. Your friend will be fine"
Then the nurse behind the counter said: "Did you say whole Reaper Pepper?!? Dont lessen to her. Your friend need a doctor ASAP. Let me find one."
Then that nurse lectured the other nurse on that a Reaper Pepper isnt the same as 'spicy food'.
ashmez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was the outcome after? What did the doctor do for your friend?
nagol93 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:01:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took an IV with lots of drugs in it and had his stomach pumped.
His heart rate was 60 and white blood cell count was EXTREMELY high. If he went to sleep there was a very high chance he would slip into a coma.
Luckily he made a full recovery.
ashmez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy cow. A hot pepper can cause all that to happen? I love spicy food, as in give me all the spicy things. But...yikes!!
nagol93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It measures 2.2 million Scoville Heat Units, compared to the jalapeno at 1,000-20,000 Scoville Heat Units. I believe it was 'invented' to be a hot sauce ingredient.
Moral of the story: Do NOT eat a whole Reaper Pepper.
shit... i got some 2am reserve (so named for being 2m scoville) and it says on the bottle that it's no longer hot sauce. it's something you add to a 2 gal batch of chili
ashmez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it bad that I am still tempted to try :P
Maybe not a whole pepper....
nagol93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will give you $10 if you eat 5
ashmez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a few zeros and we'll talk :P Also I don't even think those peppers exist where I live :P
nagol93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, $10 for 500 peppers?
ashmez ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:31:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am British, our curries are weak as fuck. To get a decent Tindaloo you have to make it yourself :(
Arfman21 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:00:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but when I worked in a hotel, I had to tell someone on more than one occasion that smoking weed/meth does indeed violate the nonsmoking policy.
Their argument was that they weren't smoking cigarettes so it would be fine.
Not a doctor, but I work at a library where a lot of people come to get medical questions answered (I'm in the US, so health insurance is a thing)
I've had to explain to a married couple that the woman has a vagina and a urethra. He had trying to put his penis in the urethra, and she was in pain.
I've had to explain to teenagers that you don't need a prescription to get condoms. They'd heard you have to go to a doctor to get birth control, and were absolutely shocked when I said you can go pretty much anywhere and buy condoms, at any age.
I've had to explain to a man that just because he is fat and has man-boobs, he cannot breastfeed his child. He thought that they were big because he had gained "sympathy milk." He gained sympathy weight, on top of the like 350 pounds he already weighed, but he still could not sit shirtless in our children's room trying to get his daughter to suck his nipple...
Diatzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had to explain to teenagers that you don't need a prescription to get condoms. They'd heard you have to go to a doctor to get birth control, and were absolutely shocked when I said you can go pretty much anywhere and buy condoms, at any age.
This is something i can believe. when i was at high school (uk) we were never did sex ed and no teacher actually explained you can be any age to get condoms. Luckily most of us were smart enough to know without being told.
"Ma'am...that was not a shart...you just had a baby."
guinader ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:26:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sis caught a baby once when a lady announced she couldn't hold her poop any longer and was going to poop right in the middle of the floor. I don't know many details.
Patient comes in with an anaphylactic reaction after eating peanut butter. The patient has a known allergy to peanuts. It wasn't the first time either. They had to explain that peanut butter is infact peanuts and to stop ingesting it.
I'm not a doctor but I had to explain to my ex what her clitoris, urethra and vagina were.
Ps apparently according to the comments her being Chinese is a major factor in this
LDawg618 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:46:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had two different doctors, 2,000 miles apart, tell me the same story: They asked their patient if they were sexually active, and the patient said "no." The doctor then asked when the last time they had sex was, and the answer was "yesterday." I really believe that they're both true stories and not jokes and I would bet that many doctors have the same story. There are so many dumb people these days. TLDR: Unless you have sex on the way to the doctor's office, you are not sexually active.
Not a doctor, but during her first pregnancy, my wife of two years went to her OB/GYN worried that she might have a UTI. The doctor had to explain to her that when she wipe her ass that she wipes from the front to the back, not the back to the front. Apparently, this is something that I had never noticed about her wiping habits. She was completely unaware that she was doing anything wrong.
Not a doctor but I work with patients in hospitals- had one who was in the ER for cardiac issues complaining that they wouldn't let him get McDonald's from across the street for lunch since he was hungry during the wait for test results.
I had a discussion regarding a patient's allergy to water.
FatPaco ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uuggghhhh my brother in law thinks he's allergic to water. He gets physically ill--as in throwing up and terrible stomach pains-- when he drinks anything other than sweet tea (!?!?!?) or mountain dew. Even worse... My sister corroborates his story.
Some of these stories make me proud that my parents were never strongly anti-science when I was growing up - at worst my mom (a nutritionist) only gave us kids skim milk because prevailing science at the time (early 90's) said skim milk was the best and everything else was shit. She hates herself for it now considering how stupid the logic was, but unfortunately she's gotten a lot more "anti-vaccine" which makes me a bit sad.
BetaHat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today I learned that people are way dumber than I ever thought they could be.
Diatzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of kevin then?
BetaHat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kevin Diatzen, is that you?
Diatzen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just found out I'd been doing this wrong through another comment on this thread... To be fair, if your parents teach you wrong, who else is going to catch it but the doctor? Or, in my case, Reddit :(
Not me but someone I worked with during one of my rotations as an ultrasound tech. An older man was complaining about a mass in his neck. He then grabbed his throats and said "Yeah, there's this tube like thing right in the middle of my neck!" He grabbed his trachea....
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:21:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I had inform more than once to a dear friend of mine that, no, you do not get pregnant from eating a raw chicken's egg. And following her reasoning, there is no protein in said egg that will get you pregnant.
She was a Jehova's Witness but she knew the basic sex ed. So, I want to think she wasn't educated fully on some matters, or had just conjured up some misguided ideas.
Last year during my internship i was doing my rounds in the orthopedics floor and a nurse rush to me and tells me that a patient fell when he was trying to stand up (he was waiting for a left hip replacement surgery), when i asked the patient why did he do that, he told me he forgot about his broken hip. BTW when he fell he broke his right hip.
1-iota ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:10 on March 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed and shortly felt bad afterwards because that is just unfortunate.
All these comments are about the catastrophic lack of understanding of sex, reproduction and communicable diseases. Next is shit knowledge about basic health maintenance - cardio or dental. This is why we need universal healthcare and NO FUCKING RELIGION IN EDUCATION. Jesus isn't unherpes anyone's dick, so his preferences on sex ed are irrelevant.
Ignorance is killing people and torturing them slowly.
I was in a mumble server with this guy who was in school and was shadowing someone. He was talking about this one guy who came in who was severely dehydrated. They asked him how often he drinks water and he said "never." They ask him if he drinks water at all and he says "no. I only ever drink soda and beer."
This guy was about 40 and didn't understand he needed to drink water. He had been living like this for years and everyone was puzzled how he was still alive.
Ok so not me, but my good friend works at Woman's and Babies. A woman's hospital in Lancaster county Pennsylvania. Good old Amish country. She was doing her internship when a young Amish couple who was having trouble conceiving came in. All of their testing came back normal and fertile. However... her hymen was still intact. So clearly there were a few questions. Turns out he had been fucking her in the butt the whole time! In Amish culture sex is never, ever, ever, spoken about, so neither of them really had any idea what they were supposed to do. Luck guy, poor girl. After a brief tutorial they were sent home to try for real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a Darwin award like this
TaedW ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my friend years back was complaining of this pain for months. He was showing anyone who would listen that whenever he held a heavy book, twisted his arm around, flipped it behind his back, and then leaned over in this weird way, it would hurt. It was just this weird contortion. Even though it's the punch line to a joke, I said, "Well, don't do that, then." He ignored me, and eventually a mutual friend convinced him to go to a doctor. As we all suspected, the doctor told him, "Well, stop doing that."
I had to tell an adult to take the rest of the knives out of their walls. They were using them to hang sheets. Stepped on a sheet, knife hit head, freaked out and called 911. They weren't even bleeding, just upset that a knife magically fell from the sky.
Medical student (pharmacy technician at the time): I had to explain what a milliliter was to a patient. He was a middle age man with children. I'm guessing he went with the "take a swig" method when his kids had to take medication?
stuffdoc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:54:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist story. Lady came in for a prescription for her 10 year old with bronchitis for some cough syrup with codeine. She comes in 4 days later saying it's not helping her child's cough. After questioning, she revealed that she was taking the medicine because the label said "Take 1 teaspoon"
It was a joke about a couple trying to get pregnant and, upon visiting a doctor, realize that the man has been trying to impregnate the woman via her belly button.
The region/religion/race/decade of said couple is almost always different to showcase who stupid or naive a certain group is. Like, it is funny to someone the first time they hear it but once you've heard it from 18 different people claiming to have "just had these patients in", you just start rolling your eyes. Same with the gerbil story, the semen pumped out of stomach story, and the starburst story.
darktask ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she was letting her husband screw her belly button I don't think she knew anything about sex - including faking.
Not a doctor, but still have those conversations. I work for a public high school. We wrote a parking ticket for a student who was parked in the wrong parking lot. Instead of being in the student lot (which she didn't have a permit to park in), she parked in a staff lot, and worse, an administration space which was clearly labeled "RESERVED" in white letters almost 1 foot high. Then, at the end of the day her car wouldn't start, and her dad came to look at it. I went out to meet him and see if he needed a tow or jump or anything. He asked me why she got ticketed. I explained that she doesn't have a parking permit, and he argued "yes she does!" Pointing to the permit hanging from her rearview mirror. The permit very clearly labeled as being for the local vo-tech. He says incredulously, "so, what? She has to buy one for here, too?!?" Uh... Yes? They're two different places. Why would we honor their parking permit?
Then I explained to him that even if she had a permit, she still wouldn't be allowed to park in an administration space. He scoffed and said, "why not? It says reserved!" While pointing to the word painted on the asphalt.
I couldn't help myself. I laughed out loud, and said, "not for her!" Then had to go on to explain to him why his 16 year old daughter didn't get a special parking space specifically assigned to her, 20 feet away from the front door of the building. He had no clue that a "reserved" sign means "don't use this, it's not for you.
We always say teenage brains don't work function properly because they're not fill developed, but I meet parents every day who destroy my faith in humanity.
22 year old female. Desperately trying for a baby for nearly a year with no success. Then she asks for something for the pain. Her butt was hurting from all the sex.
YataBLS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not only surprised by her, but was her couple/bf a dumb guy too? Or was he just happy with anal.
Here's a story from my wife's intern year of residency: She had a 450 lb patient who was admitted for a prosthetic joint infection where they had to remove her prosthetic knee. She was bed bound and unable to walk during her hospital stay. Based on nutritional recommendations, my wife placed her on a 1200 calorie diabetic diet. However, every morning her blood sugar was some how in the 400's (normal is blood sugar is < 100). After a couple of weeks of increasing her insulin to crazy levels, they called the cafeteria to find out what she was ordering and they reported she was only ordering cakes to fulfill her 1200 calories. She was pretty mad and was throwing things when they told her she had to stop only eating cakes.
My mum used to be a nurse. They once had a lady come in who was completely orange, head to toe. Of course they did some tests and asked about her diet. She said she ate like any other person. She just had three liters of tomato soup a day.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a reverse for you. I once had to explain to an asshat doctor that the same cold sore can infect you in multiple places and in the same place again if it is exposed to it again. He knew they were the herpes virus type 1 but he was adamant that you couldn't spread the virus like that. Even though you can spread it to yourself.
babylina ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:23:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my coworker had a UTI while on a cruise and told me that the doctor explained to her it was because she has to wipe from front to back... NOT back to front... she's almost 18 years old and didn't know to wipe from front to back
Your coworker isn't the only one. My former roommate (22) also didn't know that she had to or how to wipe front to back. My other roommates had to teach her/remind her...twice. She was something else.
apley ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:26:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am a registered massage therapist /B.Kin. I treat mostly workers comp/car accidents and lots of health conditions (lymphedema, stroke, etc). I get a lot of people who clearly have no idea about anatomy/physiology (a lot of people talk about their rotor cup and trapezoid mucle) but the worst was a lady who was certain there were no muscles in her butt and had no idea why I would want to relieve tension there. She was certain her whole butt was made of fat.
Also, had a client from another country who was convinced I could somehow give her a breast lift with massage. Still not sure what she expected, thought it was a translation issue, but nope. She wanted a breast lift. With massage. (The reason most people's breasts sag is due to ligament stretch over time and besides surgery there's not a lot you can do)
Not a doctor, but I used to work as a receptionist in urgent care. Dealt with lots of super fun stuff but one really idiotic incident sticks out.
Had a patient (man probably in his 60's) come in on a Sunday afternoon, we didn't have any other patients at the moment. He comes up to my desk, looks me straight in the eye, and tells me he's pretty sure he's having a stroke. So I call up an MA and the doctor, who immediately take him to a room; a few minutes later the MA comes back and tells me to call an ambulance, because the guy is in fact having a stroke and needs to go to the hospital, since we can't do a whole lot for him at urgent care. I do that, ambulance comes, and the whole time the guy is just ranting about how he doesn't want to go to the hospital because there's only one neurologist there and he hates her and he'd rather die, etc etc etc. But he went. At this point his truck was still in the urgent care parking lot and I could see it from my desk.
About an hour, hour and a half maybe, after all this, a cab pulls up, someone gets out and gets in the stroke guy's truck. I went over to the window to look and it was actually the guy who we'd sent to the ER. Who was having a stroke. Getting in his car and driving away. I let the MA's and doc know and they contacted the hospital to see what happened. Apparently he got there, basically told anyone who would listen to fuck off and let him die, then signed himself out AMA. And then came back to the urgent care to get his truck and drive himself home while having a stroke. Just lovely.
Uh well I'm not a doctor but I'd have to say the story on a local news stations about a local man who was bitten by a venomous snake..twice..once on each leg..while he was in the lake. His girlfriend urged him to go to the hospital but he refused because he couldn't afford the bill. He didn't know what kind of snake it was. It was a cottonmouth. The only kind of venomous water snake we have.
The irony is that he couldn't afford not to go to the hospital as he a slowly died over the next day.
I treated a youth who saw a stick on the ground that he thought was a snake. It was a snake and he was bitten. He then proceeded to pick it up again. And receive a second bite.
This was in Tasmania. All of the three species of snakes in Tasmania are venomous. Fortunately he was bitten by a white-lipped snake and their short fangs are not very effective at injecting much in the way of venom.
My cousin works as a doctor in emergency. A young guy came in with ulcers all over his penis, he was convinced he had an sti. They tested him and he was clean. Turns out he was shredding himself masturbating multiple times a day. They got a nurse to "educate" him and to tell him to take it easy on himself. Not sure if he was a redditor.
My temperature is 98. But normally my temperature is 97 so I have a fever.
No. You don't. (Except my half of this conversation only ever occurs in my head because saying it out loud is a waste of my breath. I learned that years ago. )
Daza92 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:09:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know that classic house scene where the women uses her inhalers like a perfume and sprays it around her neck? Had a patient like that on a GP rotation. Requires so much tact and restraint when explaining why that's completely wrong.
cbcfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does this mean there's a problem with the way the product is explained at the initial consult? Seiously not everyone has had an asthmatic in one's life to make this self evident. Yes I know it's obvious to us who have seen it in action.
Daza92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite possibly. Somewhere down the line the instructions were lost in translation. Without knowing more about the initial consult can't really say who is more at fault. But it goes to show how important checking medicine compliance is when conditions fail to improve. And how important effective communication is.
I'm not a doctor but I used to work in the ER. I know of a patient that called an ambulance just to come in and make a collect phone call. Ambulance brought them in and we discharged them immediately without letting them use the phone.
I apologize if I have offended you or anyone who is in the medical practice. I probably did not clearly post every detail (i deleted because I realized that my post wasn't ment for this thread my bad). We do understand that snake bites are uncommon to treat and we did not assume the doctor know how to treat it. But we only went to the doctors because the bite did draw blood and it began to swell and after 24hrs and did not stop, which was concerning and assumed infection. We only became frustrated when we provided all of the information, including the species of snake, and our concerns, only for him to tell us to just go home. But i do want to thank you for informing me why he had to read off the list was more of a formality! That's good to know for the future!
I apologize, just finished long shift in er. What's happened to medicine today is patients have become entitled and there is no more respect for the provider. We work hard our entire lives only for patients to question our decisions, verbally abuse us if they please and we have to take it. On top of that we always have to be careful of lawsuits and protecting our license. Its a very draining job.
People forget that we are humans who don't know everything. There's no harm in looking something up, that's how everyone learns. At the end of the day after obtaining the relevant information the judgment call is ours. There's no way he would've discharged you if he didn't think your friend was ok.
But he should explain everything to you, and even Refer you to the proper source if needed.
Sorry for earlier again.
Guy came in and talked to me for over 30mins about how he had designed a website-based computer program that could cure all human diseases. It was called Epigenesis, and he controlled the program with his left testicle. The whole time he was telling me the story, he had this look in his eyes, begging me for help, because he couldn't stop telling me the story, but knew that it was ridiculous. He self-presented because it was the first time he had tried ice and he was having a bad time haha I will never forget the look in those eyes.
Not an MD or DVM but find myself surrounded by individuals wallowing in ignorance, for my sins. One individual smugly informs me that giving dogs sugar, as in the occasional small cookie, "causes" them to have worms. I ask if her eating sugar gives her worms. "No, it only happens with dogs."
What amazes me most is that despite knowing that I have many years of college education I am just "wrong" to think otherwise. Guess who she voted for last November?
I hear this a lot with the mexican folk. My mom used to say all the time "You crave all that sugar cause you have worms in your stomach and the more you eat the more worms youll grow." To this day( Im 24 now) I have no clue if she actually believes that herself...
I just had to explain to my friend that we couldn't drive from where we live (arizona) to pick up a friend of ours in australia. I showed her a map of the world. She then got confused because the map was flat. It was a long night.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's not always possible, but I try to avoid having friends like that.
Grown adults in the workplace that don't mind their hygenie. I understand once in a while forgetting to put on deodorant, but when I can smell you 20 feet away, there is a major problem.
Pendulum swings the other way for perfume/cologne. When I can smell you 20 feet away, there is a major problem.
shyhalu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try sitting across from an idiot coughing every 3-15 minutes for 4-6 hours a day for over a month because he is too stupid to go take some medicine or see a doctor.
At one point, he coughed and it felt like a fucking film of nasty covered my arms.
My ex-girlfriend used to think that guys HAD to have sex every day or their balls would explode. I laughed and said it wasn't true. Then immediately regretted it. Her ex was a smart guy, should have kept it going. No two minutes in heaven that night...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:03:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my doctor that there was no way I could have an std that wasn't even on my dick (cist of some sort on my upper /inner right thigh) if I've never had any sexual relations before. He was positive it was an std but did not know was it was. I kept it clean and dry and it cleared up in about a week. Needless to say I didn't go back to him.
Pinky135 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know you have have herpes on your face? Did you know genital warts are caused by the same virus that causes warts elsewhere? Did you know HIV can be transferred from any blood-blood contact, not only through sex?
STD's can be found in places other than the genitals and doesn't necessarily mean you had sex.
This story isn't mine but it's my mom's. So my mom work at a urgent care hospital and one night she had a patient come in soaking in blood and they took her in the back and when they asked what was wrong and what happened she replied that she stabbed herself multiple times in the Vagina.
Not a doctor, but had to explain to a girl in college (engineering) that women don't have a prostate gland, so there's no need for a prostate exam.
Note: they do have something similar, but it's a way different exam than prostate. Look up Skene's gland.
vijeno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:05:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Skene's gland
Ha, been meaning to look that up some day, now I know!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:52:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know told me this: his friend works at a hospital emerg and someone required fibreglass insulation to be removed from his ass. He liked things in his butt.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:13:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thread TL;DR....don't fuck people in the US. Apparently they are more ignorant than we thought.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh sweet summer child...if you think stupidity is limited by borders I have some unfortunate news for you.
Stewba ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it isn't... but the bible belt... also you've slipped so far down the ranks in education. Only to get worse with trump
carlse20 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking of the south. The Midwest actually consistently ranks amongst the best public schools in the country. Particularly Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:02:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok buddy.
Stewba ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:48:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Staying relatively flat in Reading and Science, with an 11 point drop in math...I'd ask you if you understand what statistical significance is, but I don't think you really care.
I'll be the first to criticize our educational system, but only if I don't have to resort to hyperbole.
...bro.
Stewba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd expect better from one of the world's top economies. To be beaten out by much smaller nations with less resources is kind of scary. Especially with the political state of your nation now. I predict further drops.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it is not, but widespread prevalence is at a level which makes me question integrity of education within said borders.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand what you're saying, but there was no need to obfuscate your terminology. My disappointment in you is writ large.
One of my new co-workers wanted to keep talking about how if you don't store food in the fridge it'll spoil.
He was talking to me about it like it's something he barely learned. During lunch he didn't want to eat his lunch because he forgot it in the car and said he couldn't eat it because he didn't put it in the fridge at work so it was spoiled. It was 9 degrees Fahrenheit outside. This dude scares me on how he has made it through life.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is an OBGYN. A soon-to-be-mother called him from the beach asking if the baby would boil if she were out in the sun too long. "You know, cuz the amniotic sac and all."
A friend of mine delivers babies and had to tell new parents why they shouldn't spell their sons name pronounced as shih- theed as shithead. It was one of those made up names.
Pt w/ facial burns secondary to smoking while one home O2. Subsequently leaves the floor with their oxygen tank to go outside... and smoke... They never understood why I angrily took the O2 tank from them...
I had to have the birds and the bees talk with my 22 year old Co worker because she thought, that since her bf came on the knee of her jeans from a blow job, she might be pregnant. Then a series of other related questions involving jizz on various objects and stds
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:39:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everybody in this sub is bestond comprehension to me. I live in Belgium, we have single player health care and visiting a GP is almost free. It is completely impossible in out system that a person can have such a lack of medical knowledge. You guys need single player, NOW!
punknil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even in your system it's hilarious when a doctor has to tell an adult something they should have known on their own. It's just free to get told how many tampons, and for how long, is normal now.
But, no...but, but, no. Where do you work, in Bumfuck Alabama, where all your patients are 9th grade dropouts?
I've never seen this much stupid in my life as is in this post, and I'm not young.
If 70% are that dumb, you'd think I'd run into my fair share of people this dumb in my lifetime, but I haven't. I don't think I've known a single person in my life that has been that stupid as people in here seem to be. Where do all these stupid people live, if I've never come across them? Where do they shop? Where does one find them?
Dithyrab ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you don't know, you are one.
Degru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The stupid mostly shows up when dealing with two types of people: doctors and tech support.
If you are neither of those, then you are a lot less likely to encounter the stupid.
Maybe I Am Just critical. Maybe what I think is common sense isn't so common. Like if I have a runny nose, I wouldn't go to the e.r. or wouldn't spend the night drinking after my period is 3 weeks late. Or wouldn't lie about a recent miscarriage when clearly I was never pregnant (yeah we can tell if you've had a recent miscarriage with lab work). Things ppl do makes me wanna live in a light house.
Must be in the medical field. I've never seen this many stupid people in my lifetime.
Corey307 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be surprised and horrified. Worked as an EMT for a year, I saw plenty of people whose arms and legs swelled up 3x using dirty needles. Tampons left in for weeks causing toxic shock. Men, generally still young enough to have a good life actively dying from a heart attack or stroke refusing hospital transport because idiocy. Not taking their diuretics or mood stabilizers or insulin because it's inconvenient but you better fucking believe they take all their pain meds. People are dumb.
Right. I wasn't talking about who you hang out with when off work. I was talking about m. But I don't know, now that I think about it, I'm in sales and come in contact with a ton of people - general public. They don't seem as outright stupid as the people in this post.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:56:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAHA oh gosh I feel like I ask stupid questions all the time...but that's what you all are there for right?
Bflo92 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:24:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a teller. I had a 40 to 50 year old women ask me why, when she wrote a check over a month ago, the funds were taken from her account just recently. I told her whoever she wrote the check out to must have just cashed or deposited the check; they have six months from the date written on the check unless stated otherwise.
She stares at me and, again, asks the SAME question. I also repeat myself. She repeats herself again, but adds, " When I write my checks, the money is taken out of the account, and I give it to whoever but only now, one month later, it was taken out. Why?"
I had to explain to her that, no, your funds are not extracted from your account as you write the check. The check is paper, you fill it out in pen. It does not communicate directly with your account. We, at the teller line or ATM, process the check and tell the computer to withdraw the funds. The check could sit for five months but, until it is processed by a computer, the funds will remain in the account. It was very hard to have this conversation without sounding incredibly condescending and, no, I didn't say exactly what was written above, there was more tact.
After that attempt, she told me the funds should have been withdrawn at the time the check was written, and she was going to call the 1-800 number to find answers.
Very infuriating experience. After she left, the other tellers on the line told me they couldn't believe the conversation they overheard.
No. But it is not appropriate for someone who was running for president and is now the president elect to mock and imitate someone with cerebral palsy.
Rpizza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GOD help us all.
Wtf did America do by picking him??? (For the record I did not vote didn't him )
There's a big difference between lighthearted jokes and mockery. I might not be a doctor, but I can't believe I have to explain this to someone I assume is an adult.
Not a doctor, but I've had to explain that men also have bladders. Apparently this girl assumed that babies come from bladders or that men just sort of drip pee as we go about our day.
Had a friend many years ago who was a couple months away from getting married. She was in her early 20's. In a conversation with my sister-in-law it came out that she thought sex was kissing while being naked. My sister-in-law ended up having "the talk" with her. She called the wedding off a week later.
Nurse:
A patient of mine had a history of a collapsed uterus, and we suspected her sling was no longer affective because we could see something coming out. So we sent her for surgery.
Can you guess what we saw?
A fucking potato root.
An old wives tale says you put a potato up there if you have a collapsed uterus, so that is just what she did, and it started to sprout.
There was many long conversations to explain why she had to have surgery to remove it, she refused for a while
agaric ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that myth too, good memory on this one
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh thank God, the first vaginal potato story had me going u lntil I saw it again.
thebadlt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:04:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Far from a doctor, I was a restaurant manager in NC. My team and I were prepping food for the day. One of the employees was an EMT in the evenings. This EMT walks up to me to hand me his doctor's excuse for having missed work. He seemed very serious as he handed me his excuse, so of course I was concerned and asked if everything was ok. At this point another employee walks up, an older female. She constantly ate (said she had to for medical reasons), but it was that fact that she ALWAYS had food stuck in her teeth or hanging off her lip that drove me bananas. Gross. So, she walks up (chewing on something) with food hanging off her lip. To the EMT she asks, "Hey man, you ok?" (imagine it being said over a mouth full of food). EMT sighs and says, "I mean, I don't know. The doctor said it's vertigo.". ๐ Her jaw drops in shock and all are able to see the contents of her mouth. GROSS. The "eater" then asks "Is it contagious?!" and the EMT (looking riddled with fear) replies, "I really don't know.".
I'm not knocking EMTs! My husband went through the training for it and it's not easy. But just, wow.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
omg I almost put the rapist instead of therapist, because it's the first only thing I think of when I see that word. Bless you, child. Celebrity Jeopardy was my favorite SNL skit "series."
I go for dinner and drinks with my ex regularly and I am with someone else and neither one of us thinks it's fucked up. It's not a date if you're not romantically interested. It's just two mature people still being friendly.
I also really hope somewhere a doctor is having to explain this to some girl for whatever reason.
Not a doctor, but the doctors kept telling me I was basically non-functional in every way. They told me I was vegetative. Even though I was talking to them normally?
Not a doctor, but I have a college flatmate who got three STDs in one semester. I asked her why she wasn't using a condom. Her response? "I'm on the pill." Apparently she thought the birth control medicine prevented STDs.
Not a doctor, just a nurse, had to explain to a qualified LD nurse, studying to be a general nurse, that even if he just put the tip in you can still get pregnant.
My sister thinks she can get Pregnant through anal. She walks around going "Don't go around giving anal! You'll get a girl pregnant! Use a condom" i don't wether i should tell her thats not how it works or what.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:18:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Well sir, I know you live in your car, but I had to break the window to get to the unconscious and overdosed prostitute while you were across the street buying more liquor."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OGStrait ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends dad is a surgeon and he has many weird encounters with children doing weird things like one eating an entire nerf football or a 20 yo shoving a Febreze canister up his asshole and i bet both of those conversations weren't pleasant to talk about.
I once had a patient who came in with an inflamed right eye, and signs of mild internal hemorrhaging in that eyeball. Upon inspection, I determined there was probably repetitive irritation from an external blunt instrument.
I asked her when the irritation was most prevalent, she told me she most often felt a stinging sensation when she drank a cup of coffee.
So, I asked her: "Why don't you take the spoon out of the cup next time you take a drink of coffee?"
Is it bigger or smaller? Because I don't know how you'd put something the size of your elbow in your ear in the first place, let alone something larger.
Which I'm in and I've never heard before (though now I'll probably hear it 20x over the next few shifts), but I understood the meaning, even if it didn't make sense the way you originally had it.
Im not a dr but this kinda fits in. My grandmother in law is curing my aunt in laws cancer with pecan tree leave tea. She went outside, gor a lot of tree leaves and boiled them. She honestly believes it will cure her daughter.
lah_lah_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister is a pharmaceutical rep who sold insulin. One of the doctors she used to visit had a patient who wasn't showing any effects from the medication. Because insulin is an injectable the doctor asked his patient to show him how he was administering the product to rule out any user error issues.. when the patient explained that he had been injecting the insulin into an orange and then eating the orange the doctor quickly figured out the issue ๐
Nurse here. I had to call a 19 year old patient. I had to tell her she was positive for gonorrhea. Her response: "Did I catch that from my boyfriend's Herpes?" I then spent the next 10 minutes educating her about STD's and safe sex. I don't think any of it was retained at all.
I've also had to explain for 20+ minutes that H. pylori is in fact not an STD and no, you did not get it from having unprotected sex and no, you will not need to take antibiotics for it. Fun times.
You might be surprised to here the shit people are up to here. I basically did my internship in a village where child marriage and shit is still prevelant. So I pretty fucking confident that no one is going to come after me because I helped doctor-patient confidentiality to help a person.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:32:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deposession(?)
I think the word you're reaching for here is Exorcism.
It is indeed a breach of patient-doctor confidentiality. It is not a case of someone saying they are going to kill someone, in which case, you are obligated by law to report it. Schizophrenia =/= murderer. Giving a patient a placebo under the pretense that it is something else is unethical. Telling a patient and family that they should take necessary measures to prevent "demonic possession" is also unethical. These are the kind of things that can get your medical license taken away or at least, fired by your employer or group. Not smart to post this kind of thing for any current or future doctor. I'm honestly impressed this is all in a single post under the poster's actual account.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:24:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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aporime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely if you think there could be danger then you shouldn't have released her at all? In the UK we have to have a very real risk before we can break confidentiality, but she could be held under the mental health act for treatment if you feel it necessary.
Then again, I'm not against telling the groom. Kind of thing he should know. Just tough with the confidentiality rules
Rpizza ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then u should keep her in hospital if she is a danger to others. U r violating her privacy by telling people
Xsable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
safety of others trumps privacy every time.
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then she needs to be committed into a hospital. She didn't make threats to harm anyone. Doctor has no right to tell other she is mentally ill. She made no threat to harm
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are placebos illegal and against the Hippocratic Oath? if so, no judgements, that seems like a pretty difficult situation and your decisions seem to be made on moral grounds. but yea, that really does sound like a brutal situation to be in as a doctor.
For starters I told the second patient that they would have to admit her for ECT and I'll start olanzipine but the parents were refused and told me that there had to be some other way for an instantaneous cure. In psych patients doctor patient confidentiality is a messy area, if taken to court I could easily say that the patient had threatened to kill the groom after marraige. Besides they won't take it to court because the bride was underage.
And in the first case I didn't tell them that it could be supernatural. The parents were adamant that psychiatry was a scam and it was all supernatural things so they had only come to visit as a last resort, we've tried everything else thing. After spending almost an hour trying to convince the parents, I gave up and told then that ehay they're saying might also be true.
A pleaent lie is better than the bitter truth. What would you have done in my place ?
Let a schizophrenic 17 year old girl get married to an unsuspecting man?
Rpizza ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They violating confidentiality What country do u practice in ?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:27:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
caffeine, cardiac issues, shaking, seizures, yes you have to OD, but lots of people manage too, especially with coffee places selling expresso shots with no limit upon request.
Nicotene, addiction levels to rival heroin while it comes inside a product garenteed to decrease your ability to live a long healthy life, may cause cancer, asthma, copd, ect. If you boil a pack of smokes in water, allow the water to evaporate and scrape the pot with a razor, the nicotine film you harvest can be then injected into someones blood stream to give them a very lethal poisoning that wont show up properly as long as they were a smoker in their autopsy.
escequi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, so the problem isn't nicotine, it's what they pair it with. About the injection, well, most stuff you inject into blood stream will cause death lol
yould be surprised how much of what you can take in the blood stream and live, but you have no chance against 1 pack of smokes worth of nicotine, doesn't matter I you smoked a carton a day, its still sure death.
Caffeine and Nicotine are both poisons that the plants make to stop animals from eating the parts of the plant that the plant doesn't want eaten but Humans are 'clever' enough that it doesn't dissuade us from consuming small amounts.
The negative effects are pretty much the normal effects and side effects but they get worse with larger or repeated dosages also they are both addictive.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember how it got to that point but i had to explain a friend of my parents who invited me and my brother over for dinner the Darwins theory of Evolution but she didn't believe me when I told her that your life doesnt change your genetic material. The worst thing is that she is an anthropologist which would make you think she knew about things like that. Well im the end I gave up due to the fact that there where 2 other adults telling me that i surely am wrong.
I know what you mean and I'm sure your parents friend didn't mean this but you seem interested in this stuff so check out epigenetics. Your life will affect your genetic material in ways that can be quite significant for your descendants
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:39:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any sources? Sounds quite interesting indeed. I didn't mean to say it like that but my english isn't good at all.
Environment absolutely does change your genes. Now we aren't talking eat a shit tonne of carrots and turn ginger.
Through out your life your genes are rewriting themselves. Mutations occur through all kinds of machinations but exposure to substances in our food etc can cause them. Almost any environmental circumstance can act as a mutagen or alternatively activate dormant genes.
It's an amazing topic and hard to summarise but look up why identical twins aren't genetically identical for life.
I work at a restaurant as a manager and actually had to explain to one of my hostesses that you can't stick your hand down your pants and pull your thong out of your ass crack at the host stand where customers can see you.
serosis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:49:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sexes? That's patently untrue, medically, intersex is a real thing. Socially, I draw the line at people who Identify as a beet or a dragon as their gender, but I see no real issue with transsexuality, as it doesn't affect me at all.
Right, but if i can get a coffee in a small, medium or large, i dont go online and tell people only small and large are real sizes and they're yucky freaks who deserve hate because they got a medium. its a separate thing.
This isn't actually an appropriate parallel to compare it to. Small, Medium and Large are all quantities of the same measure; namely how much coffee is in a cup.
Male and Female aren't both quantities of the same measure.
The coffee is like 1,3,5
The sexes are more like -1 and +1. There's certainly 0's and definitions between these two, but the two ends function as absolutes and the defining two :)
uh..
I have multiple trans friends, I'm not actually transphobic. This had very little to do with the topic you were discussing.
I have a pet peeve about poorly used metaphors, so was pointing out how the parallel doesn't work as a perfect analogy :) I agree with you, there's many shades of grey between those two. But when people use improper analogies, it weakens their argument and I wanted the argument to be good since I'm all for all this :P
Sorry you assumed the worst, I was arguing about proper analogies which might as well have been about books or movies or coffee or postal stamps. I'm as open-minded as they come and fucking hate transphobic/homophobic people. Not sure how this discussion popped up in this thread.
Not a doctor, a friend tells me that DUI is the safest and most convenient contraception technique, I told her: "Your 2 daughters are DUI accidents, and 2 more miscarriages" she gets angry, she is a certified nurse, BTW
DUIs? Yeah, that's not a very good contraceptive method. Sounds very dangerous. I guess I can see your friend thinking that it would keep her in jail for a while, which would make getting pregnant harder.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last christmas I was on a morning clinic duty. This middle aged lady complained of shortness of breath, and tells me her previous doctor prescribed her an inhaler. So I naturally explain her that she may have been diagnosed incorrectly and I will try twice as hard to fix this problem. I ask her if she uses her asthma inhaler. She says she uses it all the time and go through one a week! Now, at this point I know something is up with her. I ask her, politely, if she is sure she uses it correctly. I guess she got offended by my question and caught up on my sarcasm, she asks me if she looks like an idiot. Now, at this point my normal self would have kicked this woman out of the clinic, but I was in a bit of a pickle with my supervisor and trying to win a bet with my buddy, so I emphatically say no to her but insist that she should show me how she uses her inhaler. She reaches back to her purse, gets her inhaler and proceeds to spray it to either side of her neck like itโs a perfume :}
02ranger ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you popped a Vicodin, insulted her, and limped your way to your boss' office to make a sexually harassing statement about either the size of her ass or amount of cleavage she was showing while trying to get out of clinic duty, right?
Edit: I forgot to say that you later won the bet by "proving" parthenogenesis in humans, thereby receiving the gift you needed to win said bet.
I'm an ER nurse now, but former medical dispatcher. Had a 20-something female call 911 for feeling "tired."
I was in nursing school and working 12s...please, tell me how tired you are, I'm listening!
If you request an ambulance, you'll get a damn ambulance. And those are the types you can't convince (even with completely normal VS) that they can go POV, or GASP to their PCP. Nope. Must go by ambulance. Triage on arrival, homeslice.
Edit: I must apologize for the anger. Last night was one of those nights...and I held over
from someone who doesn't work in the medical field.. This made zero sense... I think you've been working too long!
punknil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20 year old lady says she's tired and wants an ambulance. A smart cookie would have just made an appointment with their regular doctor. OP dispatches an ambulance, because she's supposed to take the call seriously, but the EMTs that pick the caller up will probably dump her in a waiting room for a few hours, since the staff will tend to the patients with real problems before finally getting around to tell this caller to sleep or take caffeine.
Yeah. Unfortunately, more often than not, people don't know how to convey their complaints over the telephone (that's completely understandable) and actually end up being sicker than they may have thought. This was not the case haha.
Those are the types of patients that get wheeled into the waiting room on a stretcher to have a seat because there are 5 people with chest pain ahead of them.
EMTs usually set them down in a chair, hand them their belongings and then peace out.
I'm not a doctor but once joked with a co-worker that if she kept holding her sneezes in like she did, that one time her brain could blow out of the back of her head. She looked me dead in the eye with a look of panic and said "Really!?!" I was shocked that she didn't realize I was joking and just "no. Not really." She was in her late 30's at the time.
Medical Student.
We had an 80 year old lady come in with incontinence. On taking her history it came up that she had never been able to have children, thinking she was infertile. She also had lots of urinary tract infections when she was younger, and said that sex had always been difficult and painful.
Turns out she had been having sex through her urethra her ENTIRE adult life. This had stopped her having kids (which she was very sad about), and caused a bunch of other problems.
It's honestly very sad. A lack of education about sexual anatomy stopped her from starting the family she wanted
ITT: a disturbing amount of people that are too ignorant to educate themselves on human biology, if the posts are to be believed... and I guarantee they're the ones having litters of children.
shyhalu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much, go to any impoverished area and you'll see breeders everywhere.
Not a Doctor. But my friend who is Male and not stupid, he was raised by two college graduates and is attending Ohio State, not from a rural town either.
Anyways, we were having a conversation recently and no idea how we got on the topic but he didn't know women have 3 holes. He thought women pee from their vagina. He had no idea the pee came out of the urethra. So he thought he was sticking his dick in the hole that pee came out of and was relieved to find out there was another hole.
TLDR: male friend thought women peed from their vaginas
not a doc, but personal story...as a young lad in colleague I was taking a female physiology class. At one point I asked my TA, why do some women's vagina smell different? He was like, "uhh, personal hygiene differs from person to person" - facepalm
From a non-medical side, most of you might be surprised how often it is in my career path I end up changing batteries in smoke detectors for adults who have families and are at least in their 40s.
I'm sorry, you have iPhones.... all of you... you could have googled it. Let's use a half million dollar fire apparatus instead.
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're saying people call the fire department to change their smoke detector batteries?
Yes, and all things in the world considered, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It ties up an apparatus that could be waiting for an emergency situation at its home station
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin is a FF and is a bit disillusioned by the ratio of BS calls to productive use of his time.
We have an unwritten policy in our department that "no call is a bs call". But the reality of it is there are a lot more important things that a 1.2million dollar ladder truck and 4 firemen could be doing than chasing a cat out of a tree or digging your keys out of a storm drain.
Not a doctor but I have a homosexual male friend that is convinced he has something similar to a period each month because he shits a lot and gets moody.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is somewhat related, because of incredible ignorance & biology...a woman talking about a litter of stray kittens, " it was hard to get their eyes open so I could put drops in them."
Athletic Trainer here - when I was a student our head ATC had to have a sit down conversation with a college senior (student athletic trainer at that) about deodorant use and soap because of his BO. It was bad!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's good to see this thread pop up every few months
BSNMSN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're kiddo is sick with a viral infection, caused by a virus. The is not a medication that will make this virus go away. No, antibiotics treat bacterial infections, they will not help this (this part is a conversation I have way too often) .... This response though, from the parent of a five or six year old "Wait, so a virus can cause a fever?"
Not a doctor, but I had a patient come in for a procedure in which she was required to insert a tampon. The patient was a women in maybe her fifties and she asked me where was she supposed to insert the tampon...
jwhoa83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A long conversation about how to wipe front to back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Pinky135 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have loved to mess with him if I didn't have to be all professional and shit. "What?! That means they have cancer? My dogs both eat grass! I gotta get home RIGHT STAT NOW!!"
Sorry it's a little off topic since not a doctor, but it needs to be shared- my mothers elementary school had an "election" in november, where kids were shown how a ballot is cast and they could choose between Hilary and Trump, and they tallied the results after the day and declared who was the winner at the school. A parent called in with concerns that her daughter had not been educated enough on the issues in politics and was worried that her 6 year old daughter's vote actually counted in the general election for President. It took a teacher and a principal to finally convince her it wasn't a real ballot...
oz_moses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a little off topic would be posting something about a DVM.
Not a doctor, but I had to tell a patient not to stick her hands in a toilet full of menses and poop to show me that she was menstruating. And that she should wash her hands.
Frodde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boss told me about a former coworker who came into work and asked if he could take off a bit early, to go see the doctor. My boss says sure. Then he asks what's up and if he should be concerned. The guy then says "I think I might have osteoporosis in my right arm". My boss looked at him, like the idiot he was, and started laughing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Every singe thread like this some idiot who doesn't understand HIPAA, and can't even spell the acronym, comes in and makes an accusation like this.
For pointing out that you had no idea what you what you were talking about when you tried to accuse people in this thread of professional misconduct? Cool. Is there a monetary prize attached to this award or is it for bragging rights only?
rexmus1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how to do that neat cross-out-words action I see u kids do, but if I did, I'd cross out "has" and replace with "is a." Oh, and the "s" at the end, too.
redstern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen any personally identifiable information here so far. As long as nobody uses any, this is perfectly fine.
Freshman year of college (Fall 2011) I walked in on my roommate and a friend of ours from across the hall watching Sports Center. On TV, the commentators were talking about a game Alabama had played earlier that day. My roommate turns around, looks at me and says, "Hey dylanbob5, Alabama...that's a town in Georgia right?" Both our neighbor and I freeze, turn, and look at him blankly. He didn't know that Alabama was a state. He was 18 years old, American by birth, and was enrolled in a high quality university. I couldn't fathom how he had somehow reached that point in life and education and didn't at least recognize the name of a state.
Obligatory "not a doctor", but I'm sitting in my living room watching tv the other day and my roommate walks out and says "Can you get pregnant when you're not ovulating?". She's a 21 year old female, and she was dead serious.
mullerwt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
redstern ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:15:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to high school with someone who was like that. I've never really known what to make of it. I don't know whether to brush it off as some weird obsession or a strange mental illness.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should really fire her...
If some weirdo employee starts meowing at me I'm never coming back...
Not a doctor, however my mother always comes to me with her medical questions due to my knowledge of medicine. Which comes from having chronic medical conditions, and working in health foods/supplements. I recommended she take a garlic supplement for her "lady issues" because she's on a homeopathic kick. She thought she was supposed to put the tablets in her vagina because they couldn't find it on their own through her bloodstream, since menstrual blood is different than regular. She apparently thought that the uterus/vagina don't have bloodflow?
I got hemmeroids at 16 and went to my primary care doctor to confirm. She then told me (after fingering my asshole) that Iit was a growth that could potentially be cancerous and I needed to have it be removed immediatly. She reccomended me to a larger hospital, whereafter another doctor (upon fingering my asshole again) said, "nah it's just a hemmeroid, take smaller shits"
My friend used to volunteer as a reproductive health educator in a rural part of China and told me this story:
A married couple visited the local county doctor, trying to figure out why they were having trouble getting pregnant despite trying for several years.
The doctor did all the usual fertility tests and determined that there were no issues with either partner. They assured him they were having sex on a regular basis.
Just to be sure, he decided to have a more discrete conversation with them as to what exactly they were doing and asked my friend to step outside.
After a few minutes, the wife storms out of the office, clearly mad as hell. The husband follows a bit later, looking embarrassed. My friend goes back into the office.
The doctor looks at her, shrugs and says, "wrong hole."
If I didn't have to be all professional I would have loved to acted all over dramatic and distraught over the fact that both my dogs munch on the occasional green stuff. You're telling me my dogs have cancer? They hardly ever smoke!!
I've heard upset stomach, need more roughage, other intestinal issues. I didn't really study up on dogs and cats eating grass in paramedic school though.
SuperCPR ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor...But a paramedic(whichhh is pretty much the same thing, probably better than a doc ;-) )....
Dear God, people are stupid. Every person we treat with COPD smokes. Every person with abdominal pain caused by alcohol, is drunk when we pick them up for abdominal pain. They literally have no understanding of cause and effect. Urban Outdoorsman (bums/homeless) don't understand why they are cold and have no money. The number of kids we go on that are having a hard time breathing and the parents are smoking in the house while we are treating their kids. Common. Sense. Is. Dead. Annnd people are soooo stupid.
Sephrik ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:31:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't say paramedics are better than your typical doctors, just different. I can understand how you feel about these things, but specifically people who have COPD and smoke, there are reasons. It's called addiction. If you've never been there, then you can't really understand how hard it is for them to give it up. They may want to, and they may try, but there's thousands of people out there who, every day, try to quit and can't. To be fair, there are better methods, like vaping, but I can understand their situation, and wouldn't say it's necessarily a lack of common sense. As far as homeless people go, lots of people in those situations have underlying mental health issues and can't/aren't thinking straight. That and they're literally at the lowest point in life and can't understand why. Again, that's not a lack of common sense, that's desperation.
Paramedics are "different" from docs in the fact that they have way less education. A paramedic's goal is to keep the patient alive till they get the patient where ever they're going. That's it. A lot of paramedics, however, have egos that could rival surgeons.
Source: am RN that has had to deal with a few too many cocky paramedics that thought they could question my assessment and nursing judgement.
Sephrik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right well, I was trying to make an intelligent point, not blow the guy up like that.
oz_moses ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL!
It's usually dentists who are comparing themselves to an MD.
i'm pretty sure. not sure about the spelling though.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:36:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not even drinking age (US) yet and I had a coworker maybe 5-7 years older who got upset because someone accidentally hit the hot keys to flip 'her' (one of three computers at a nursing station) monitor display. She whined and literally almost cried for five minutes because she didn't know how to fix it and no one was 'fessing up. I googled it on my phone and had it fixed with 15 seconds.
I had to tell her to google a problem instead of throwing a tantrum.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oz_moses ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a strange conversation to have with one's Doctor...jusayin'
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's possible the doctor has had a previous patient do that before. Medicine continues to astound me, not only because of the vast technological advances we've made, but also the ingenuity of patients in trying to die anyways.
The act of wiping back to front is a common cause of UTI's, it's a pretty standard question that could stop you from doing it in the future if you are doing it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I got ridiculed so many times when suggesting this to Ex's as a precaution. I actually paid attention to health warnings and sex ed, don't fuck me again right?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Women have shorter urethras, so it's easier to get UTIs
BFF had to explain to a grown man what celery was. She finally Google'd it and showed him a picture and he claimed he'd never seen it in his life.
I still don't know how this could be true, but he had diabetes so I'm guessing his diet didn't include much vegetables.
(He asked her for healthy snack ideas since he drove a bus and couldn't eat his regular candy bars Ana whatnot anymore. She suggested celery with peanut butter, I think.)
glottony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An osteopath is as much a doctor as a naturopath. They aren't doing shit
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Checked your post history a little bit to see how far this bullshit followed you. Dig your heels in buddy, you're shameless.
glottony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:48:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much. But you're still a quack
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry you couldn't get into medical school
glottony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:55:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up nurse
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn you're not even smart enough to be a competent toll. Good luck in the next life ma'am.
glottony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:28:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
toll
You're not smart enough to spell, small wonder you're a DO.
I've got this very well educated woman taking medical advice via Skypefrom some crackpot and wondering why she keeps getting sick and having medical problems.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:30:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All these stories convince me we need WWIII or an asteroid or whatever can kill all of us to fucking hurry up and get here. We are irredeemably stupid and have outlived our usefulness as a species. FTW
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I own a construction company. Can I answer this question?
Just today, the owner of a coffee shop I'm sitting in asks me "In what country is the Panama Canal"? I asked politely if he was shitting me, and answered Panama. He said I was 2nd of 12 people that day to get it right.
Had to explain to my mom that you don't catch a cold from simply being in the cold. My grandfather was one of the best doctors in our town and recieved the highest honor one can get in our town for his work...
dahlek88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I knew someone in college who thought that girls peed out of their buttholes.
I had a very serious argument with a guy once that girls do in fact poop and fart. He sincerely did not believe they did. He was a beady eyed fuck anyway.
oz_moses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife was a surgical tech for a long time and she told me this story an OB/Gyn told her about a couple he'd been seeing for some time. They couldn't get pregnant and kept trying and trying. Nothing. Their tests came back fine, everything seemed normal so doc starts asking more questions. Turns out, yep, they were doing it in the wrong hole.
_bamuh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I was on vacation at home, one of my employees broke the shit out of a tow motor because he tried to use it to pick up a... tow motor. I was never more enraged to be playing video games in my boxers and have to udder the phrase "well [employee], what did you think was going to happen" when they called
Edit: I am such an idiot, I didn't realize this is for doctors only
One time I had this patient that thought vague stories without any identifying information could be HIPAA violations.
Caz1982 ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 01:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naturally, large portions of this thread would end up dedicated to ripping on the American health care system and getting moralistic about how healthcare should be free. Fuck it, I haven't had enough downvotes this week.
We have a terrible health care system here, true. It's ungodly expensive. But that's largely because the government has tried to get everyone covered without taking over the institutions directly and socializing it. This means that they have been essentially demanding that insurance companies write a blank check any time a doctor says that an expense is warranted.
We would be far better off with no regulation at all than we are with what we have. Prices would be obscenely low, employers would be able to cover employees more easily, and community nonprofits could cover those who slip through the cracks.
I can't believe more adults don't understand this.
We would be far better off with no regulation at all than we are with what we have. Prices would be obscenely low, employers would be able to cover employees more easily, and community nonprofits could cover those who slip through the cracks.
The only way this is true is if you think the CEOs running insurance companies are going to decide not to make their shareholders a shitload of money.
What will instead happen is that we'll get worse service for roughly the same price, and the difference in cost will go back to the shareholders. Sure, a competitor could come up to provide better service for less, but the lack of regulation means that the insurance companies could form a racket and keep the new guy out via exclusivity contracts. This is why you don't see a hell of a lot of online-only banks (Ally is the only one I can think of): because they have to play nice with the big guys or else.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably misstated that; I meant no regulation on health care specifically. Anti-trust, which holds for every business, still applies. There's no reason to assume cartel formation, which if anything has been made easier with excessive regulation.
But you're showing a distinctly dark view of the character of health care that is filled with people who see themselves as caring and interested in human decency. Even lawyers take pro-bono cases.
But you're showing a distinctly dark view of the character of health care that is filled with people who see themselves as caring and interested in human decency. Even lawyers take pro-bono cases.
If insurers were doing it out of the goodness of their heart, insurance companies wouldn't have executives that make more money per hour than most people make in a year. They also wouldn't have shareholders, because "making people healthy" and "making a ton of money" are diametrically opposed goals.
Caz1982 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A) making people healthy and making a ton of money aren't diametrically opposed goals. Making extremely poor people healthy, maybe. But not everyone is extremely poor, helping the extremely poor is a charitable cause and you can't run a system that works for everyone how it works for them, and some people actually think that providing a valuable service justifies getting paid for it.
B) Have you considered that health insurance companies don't have enough competition? And that regulation is making it much easier for them to avoid competition? That maybe doctors could do better for their patients by working outside of the insurance infrastructure?
I'm not defending the profit margins of insurance companies. They are a symptom of a problem, and that problem is regulatory capture, allowed by a culture that simply doesn't want to think about paying for anything directly when it comes to healthcare. That gives them too much power. I'd rather the government mandate financing for major procedures than mandate insurance.
Making everyone healthy means that the top two things an insurance company will pay for is preventative care and emergency care. Preventative care should be free (or bundled with the premium cost) if your goal is to make everyone healthy. Emergency care costs vary wildly and insurance companies are less able to control costs because you're going to be going to the closest one.
As a result, they're not going to make as much money. However, if your deductible is so high that it's not worth going to the doctor, yet you still pay the premium, they make a ton of money. This is what they want you to do.
The government can fix this situation in one of two ways:
Single payer universal health care. Eliminate the insurance companies altogether, or make them administrate the single payer plan at a regional or state level. Everyone is insured, and we can kill the uninsured reimbursement program that most people don't realize we have. Since everyone is insured, those who aren't insured are foreign and should have their own insurance plan, and hospitals can either reject those patients or give them service as a charity, and we can stop paying for it as taxpayers.
Government-controlled pricing. The government sets the price of particular procedures / ICC-10 codes. Insurance plans compete on providers they partner with, services they add (smoking cessation, diabetes education, etc.), and percentage of cost-sharing. This would be similar to how the US government calculates per diem rates, and would presumably be scaled such that people who participate in excessively risky activities have to pay more. It would also have to be scaled by metro area.
As far as insurance companies not having enough competition, that is a problem they largely brought on themselves. Yes, the states regulate insurance companies differently, so you end up with "lines around the states" like Trump puts it, but an early version of the ACA was going to fix that and it wasn't well received by the insurance companies or the people involved in the bill because it took away a right from a state.
Also, the individual mandate was a condition by the insurance companies for ignoring preexisting conditions. If you have another idea on how to allow people with preexisting conditions to get insurance/healthcare without mandating everyone have insurance, Congress would like to know.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance companies are still companies, so saying they brought a lack of competition "upon themselves" is kind of like saying that Rockefeller brought his monopolistic practices upon himself. I don't think that would be a bad thing from his perspective.
Those companies are making money and the ACA is helping. Beyond that, your suggestions 1 and 2 would probably save money, although they have the same problems that any given government-run economic situation has: bureaucratically run cost calculations that are rarely flexible enough to deal with price changes anywhere in upstream markets, the likely creation of queues from inadequate supply and excess demand, and the occasional screwy incentives that come from rigid payout policy.
Preexisting conditions are just costly. To avoid the individual mandate, I'd rather raise the Medicare tax and put it into a fund that would be based on the previous year's costs, then means-tested, and let charities or rolling zero-interest debt handle any overflow.
But eventually, if we can't accept that some people will be uninsured, it'll probably be single-payer, I'd guess at the federal level (Medicare for all). I don't like it, but it's cleaner and better than what we have now.
Worse service for a much higher price (as much as 300 percent) is what we've gotten with the ACA. It is neither affordable nor decent care. Insurance companies, regardless of whether it is medical, auto, or home have are in business to maximize profit for shareholders, not protect the insured. A less regulated environment would help control costs, but only if government plays a proper role in preventing price fixing.
Insurance companies, regardless of whether it is medical, auto, or home have are in business to maximize profit for shareholders, not protect the insured.
Why would this change with less regulation? Less regulation = less money spent on complying with regulation = more money for shareholders = insureds still get screwed.
Health is not a free market and should not be subject to the same treatment. If your car breaks down, you can call around and see who provides the best value for you. If you break your arm, you will visit the nearest ER and hope they can get you fixed sooner rather than later.
shyhalu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the thread is ripping on people like you, ignorant of the things you talk about.
Our healthcare is ungodly expensive because we have a combination of complete idiots being given access to care and insurance companies doing whatever they can to increase the bottom line.
It was ungodly expensive before any government intervention, and it is still ungodly expensive after. And other countries don't share this problem.
We would be far better off with no regulation
Tried that in the past, didn't work. I don't know about you but I don't appreciate the idea of being denied entry into a hospital because they couldn't find my wallet as there are no longer any regulatory laws telling them to operate first, bill later.
And no, it doesn't mean companies writing a blank check. That is just you have issue with any form of authority and giving an extreme example that is simply not true.
Caz1982 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:46:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you aren't arguing that costs haven't gone up, because that's not even close to being supportable. And I'm not talking about Obamacare, so I don't mean just the last six or seven years.
But I will say that making insurance companies cover everyone and ignore pre-existing conditions has made it worse. There has been no downward pressure on price in the American health care market for decades. A market system might help that but subsidies and demand for universal coverage will not.
shyhalu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you aren't arguing that costs haven't gone up, because that's not even close to being supportable.
Slowing down the rising costs != stopping costs from going up.
But I will say that making insurance companies cover everyone and ignore pre-existing conditions has made it worse.
Did you actually read the ACA laws?
Caz1982 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay fine, "making insurance companies cover everyone" is an exaggeration, and there are plans which are grandfathered and don't have to cover PEC's. Let's get pedantic.
And of course I didn't read the entire ACA. If you did, then you could probably digest War and Peace along with the Wheel of Time series in a long weekend. I applaud your stamina, but you know what the ACA said about PEC's; it's summarized on the ACA website, and it takes very little economic imagination to see how it could raise costs.
How far would the costs have gone, and at what rate, in the absence of the ACA? You don't know. It's a counterfactual. But based on your own characterization of insurance companies and the uncontroversial reality that they had a seat at the table for the drafting of the bill, there's no reason at all to think they've taken a hit.
And good God, stop being defensive and let's get back to the point. I'm not a Republican.
shyhalu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't read the ACA, you know you are exaggerating things.....and you "can't believe more adults don't understand this"?
Most adults read and try to understand the things they criticize, you aren't one of them.
You don't even understand what is coming out of your mouth now.
there's no reason at all to think they've taken a hit.
making insurance companies cover everyone and ignore pre-existing conditions has made it worse.
Is there even a reason to continue this conversation? Nah, we're done here its easier to just block you. Maybe you should consider switching to being a Republican, you have the integrity and intellectual honesty along the same lines of the teaparty members.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is wrong with you?
From the ACA website:
"No insurance plan can reject you, charge you more, or refuse to pay for essential health benefits for any condition you had before your coverage started."
Is there something difficult to understand about this? It means they ignore pre-existing conditions. Saying "they can't charge you more" guarantees that they charge everyone more to begin with to keep from taking a loss based on the probability you will cost them more. The costs get pooled and everyone pays more.
"Cover everyone"; does the ACA require that everyone gets health insurance or face a punitive fine, or not?
Have you or have you not read the entire ACA yourself? Because it's barely hyperbole.
Protip: when someone says "let's get pedantic", they usually are indicating sarcasm. You've ignored the entire point of the conversation to "win" the argument, all because you can't economics. Nice job.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess this is an illegitimate source of information to you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol it's not because they are young / old . It's because politics makes people act like children playing against a rival high school team. Unfortunately healthcare has become very political. It's really sad because America leads the world in healthcare and a more free market would probably help the world.
I wish that it was rich people going to great hospitals that was driving up spending. It's mostly ER visits for poorly managed complex chronic illnesses. A great example of it is this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DiwTjeF5AU
If you're interested in learning more about the data behind healthcare spending in the US and how/why that isn't reflected in outcomes (basically, we spend tons of money but are dying earlier and living in poorer health) I'm happy to provide you with more info.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:38 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I'll watch that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It may be expensive but it is one of the best in the world
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... By the standards of literature perfection, That's not how it's expected to be written. Yeah it's redundant, but Jesus, that's an overly particular observation,don't you think?
I could see if we were writing some technical dissertation to be read aloud in front of prestigious snoots or something that warrants impeccably flawless grammar. Like, idk, some standardized curriculum text, but that's a reach in a place like reddit.
Those kinds of corrections in lit were so fucking annoying. I always wanted to tell my teacher "I fucking know, you asshole. I MEANT to write it that way, now fuck off." lol
Honestly, man. Don't make grammar nazis look like prancing hippies on lsd. This conversation was almost embarrassingly unnecessary, lol Why'd you do it, were you that bored?
Spazmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:34 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait wait wait... you criticized the spelling and grammar of others, then freaked out when your own piece of writing was criticized. Maybe they MEANT to write it that way.
The spelling of others. Not the grammar. No doctor should mispell the most common words we use and the comprehension of any doctor that does is suspect. Or did you think every doctor got through med school with flying colors? That's a valid observation. The criticism on my grammar had no leg to stand on whatsoever. A doctor that makes 4th grade spelling mistakes is no doctor I'd be interested in seeing. If you would, well... by all means, you let me know how that works out for you. Just don't come crying your stupid tears at us on reddit when they cut off the wrong nut.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll probably gross you out, but once I tore my frenulum during sex. Very bloody, very painful and very unlikely for people who are circumcised (if at all possible). That was probably the worst drawback.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dafuq are you talking about
oz_moses ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:52:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not witty or smart pointing out a single spelling mistake, AutoCorrect does funny things when you're on mobile. And you abandoned your initial complaint so there's that.
Had a nurse ask me when we'd have the genotype results for a negative testing of HCV. I had to tell her we couldn't identify the genotype of something we didn't even found. I had to explain it a couple of times before she got it.
Not a doctor, nor am I related to a doctor, but my mother had to explain to a very angry nurse that the reason I was not sitting up straight in my chair (2-3 days after spinal surgery) was because I was healing from spinal fusion, and was nowhere near strong enough to sit up that much.
I realize that they had me try to sit up to make sure my muscles/bones healed well, but be reasonable. I'm trying my best, don't yell at me expecting me to have princess posture.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have considered telling my mom to strap me in the chair. Lol effort to sit up? Nah. Strap me up k thanks.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy at my work is constantly complaining he has no money. Yet he blows his paycheck on things he doesn't need. He also refuses to pack a lunch and eats out everyday. It's like talking to a brick wall. Don't complain your broke when you blow your money on frivoulous things.
Not a doctor in any way, but a student. I sport-class we played voleyball. I smacked the ball over the net, where another classmate tried to catch the ball. Didn't work, couldn't move his thumb after that, got swollen and blue. And here is the thing, he thought there were no bones in your thumb that could break. He didn't went to a medic 3 days. After holidays he comes in with a bandage.
tl'tr: mate sucks at sport, broke thumb, didn't care
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:01:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: I'm only an EMT with six months of schooling.
My friends ex-fiance said to him that he's not allowed to be friends with me until I add her on Facebook. For the sake of the friendship,I had to have a conversation with her explaining that I don't add everyone on Facebook but that doesn't mean I don't like her. I hated her fucking guts. Also, we're adults with jobs,this is not a kindergarten.Few months after the engagement she told my friend she likes him more as a friend than someone she would like to be with, so I guess he dodged a bullet there.
I work in a retail store that offers printing services, I once had a young man come in with a laptop. He sat at the counter frustrated, and after several minutes of refusing our help, he finally demanded to speak to a manager. He then proceeded to complain that no matter how many times he presses the print button, we still weren't printing his documents. This guy turned out to be a lawyer (or more realistically worked for one) trying to print out precedents for a case he was working on in town.
Had a guy go to work underfloor on a train, and was told to bring his tools, so instead of doing that, he walks down into the pit with windex and paper towels, completely ready to work.
Had a guy at the fire suppression company I once worked for test a 300gpm fire pump. While standing by the front of a test port to get a pressure reading, the other guy started the pump to begin. So Donny dipshit stands in front of the port holding the gauge, almost getting knocked over, but continues to stand in front of the jet stream of water trying its hardest to knock him down, for about a minute and a half straight. For reference, the water output is about the same as two fire hydrants combined.
"Elk" originally was the word for moose(Alces alces sp.), moose populations in Europe/Asia are called elk still. North American Elk(Cervus canadensis sp.) are better called wapiti to avoid confusion if you're talking to someone from Europe. Asian/Eurasian species of what would be in North America an elk(Cervus canadensis sp.) are called wapiti exclusively because "elk" still refers to the moose(Alces alces sp.).
People sometimes don't realise that moose have an extensive range in Norther Europe and Asia- in fact in the not too distant past the moose even had subspecies in Iran and surrounding areas! It's not a strictly North American species. Neither is the wapiti.
I think this was probably a language confusion, not someone being stupid or ignorant. "Moose" were called Elk long before they were called "moose" by English speakers.
It was more like she thought elks/wapiti were female moose. Then thought we were lying to her when we said that they were different species. This all started when I went to a elk reserve and took pictures and showed them at work. She started by saying that the reserve wouldn't last long because there were no males in my pictures.
I had a patient who walked into my office with his hand hanging by a single tissue, and in his attached hand was a succulent plant. He was swinging his hand around talking about holistic ways to rebuild flesh and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Thanks for listening.
My roommate flushed tampons into our shitty septic tank in our rental house for 3 months. When the bathroom flooded with shit water, I was glad her bathroom was the one down stairs.
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hospital sent us for a patient complaining of weakness, the smell and filth was appalling. Got the patient to the hospital for treatment and I can only hope a psychiatric evaluation, I reported the state of her home to social workers. Can only hope she got help.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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andrewia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dearly hope this is sarcastic. (If you're serious for the first half of your comment, the stories are anonymized so there's no information at risk of being linked back to a person.)
Edit: Aww, they deleted their first two comments they ever made. Too bad, I typed up a decent reply too explaining anonymity vs. confidentiality.
Obviously. Nurses can't possibly be knowledgeable about medical stuff, they don't have the white coat or the "Dr." in front of their name. What could they possibly know that google doesn't?/s
While we were laying beneath the stars in a field during a meteor shower, a girl asked me if the moon was a star... She went to a private Uber Catholic high school, but still.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm only in high school buddy. But I also know i want a doctor who can put up with my stupid questions without making me feel insecure and I don't need circlejerking to discourage that opinion.
I'll get the teeth grinding and my muscles feel weird, but it doesnt really keep me awake or make me superbly happy either, not more than a few shots of espresso would.
I am not a doctor. I am a trainer for a big online retailer. There are conversations I have daily with people that surprisingly drove themselves to work.
Dis guy said I want to poopy poopy but he no no how
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 10:53:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't this asked less than a week ago?
Bluzub ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 05:51:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors should not make fun of their patients, Unless it's harmless banter with a colleague- which the lay person wouldn't understand. Doctors who reply to these posts with their "crazy" stories come across as jaded and belittle the profession. BTW when the OP specifically asks "Doctors of Reddit", why do nurses, emt's, medical students, and other non-physicians seem so inclined to reply?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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slurpthegravytrain ยท 1638 points ยท Posted at 01:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paramedic here. Was driving with my partner and patient in the back. Patient was fine. Patient's skeezy boyfriend was riding in the front with me and apparently saw a golden opportunity to ask a question that had obviously been on his mind for some time.
Him: So when cats and dogs eat grass, that means they have cancer, right?
Me: Ummm. No. No it does not.
Made for an awkwardly silent ride the rest of the way.
Leohond15 ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 03:27:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, wtf? And really why did he even assume a paramedic would know whether or not animals have cancer?
slurpthegravytrain ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 04:30:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a clue. I had no idea how to respond to that question. Maybe I should have given him my vet's number. Save your life? Sure, I got this. Does your cat have cancer? Way outta my pay grade.
strp ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 14:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe that's what his parents told him when they put the dog to sleep. :(
supapro ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:45:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's semi-common knowledge that dogs eat grass when they have worms, so I guess it's a pretty understandable logical jump to assume that worms means sick means cancer?
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 09:15:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more generally that they do it when their stomach's upset, so they eat grass as a sort of emetic to purge whatever is making their stomach upset. Pretty neat instinct... except when it's the grass making their stomach upset in the first place... * stares at her own dog *
Mail540 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:12:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriends Bernese and jack Russell eat grass all the time but are perfectly healthy my puppy seems to be imitating them now
pumblesnook ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shure they are dogs? Could be sheep.
bless_ure_harte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:03:27 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sheep...dogs
drhex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:45 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you met Kevin? If you have not been down Kevin's rabbit hole, you're in for a treat
Calingaladha ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, I've never heard that...and I was a vet tech. Some dogs will eat grass because of an upset stomach, but also some animals just like eating grass even when they're fine. Animals are weird.
ryulaaswife ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:17:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dogs eat grass when they are sick- which is a fact, so maybe when they have cancer? But that's a random question for an EMT hahah
xgravity23 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 10:46:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a fact. I have two very healthy dogs, ages 6 and 4.5. The younger one, I call her a cow on some walks. She just takes a few steps and grabs a mouthful of grass, few steps, grass. The older one does it occasionally, compared to her younger sister, but still like on 2-4 of their 7 weekly walks. They get poo and blood tested every year at their annuals and every result is in the normal range and they never throw up either! It's super weird, and we asked the vet about it the first few years. She just tells us now that we should keep an eye on them because it isn't great for them, but it doesn't seem to be indicating a bigger issue.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:48:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dog and my cat are the same way. They're healthy as can be but will not stop eating grass and other plants. I have to constantly keep an eye on them.
ryulaaswife ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:57:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh odd! My vet said that's why! My dog was sick and she was eating grass- stopped when she was better!
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, that is what they told us the first couple years, so we kept trying to get them to stop. But we have a doggie door, so there is not controlling what they do when we're gone. And we eventually just gave up on trying to dissuading them on walks too.
NachoCupcake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a grazer, too! I usually try to keep her from eating grass from anyone's lawn but mine, since many of my neighbors either fertilize and/or treat their grass. It worries me that she might end up being poisoned by weed killer or whatever.
Anonymanx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I refer to our dog as a labra-cow.
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! She is my Vizslacow. I don't even use the hyphen.
Last_human_standing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's no consensus on the cause http://moderndogmagazine.com/articles/vet-s-take-why-dogs-eat-grass/297
sakurarose20 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:01:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my ex. Please don't tell me the patient's name was Rylee.
zangor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:01:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, barring the fact that there is already a very prominent porn star with this phonetic first name, this has got to be (spelled in this way) the most porn sounding name ever.
sakurarose20 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:21:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-_- well, fuck! I have a porn star name.
zangor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:43:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, sorry I somehow misread and thought you were the other person in the relationship. It's a good name, just in the context of porn it would be like "Oh yea, that's her name for sure."
sakurarose20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:22:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mom thought it was more feminine.
BurntRussian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:06 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be a HIPAA violation to answer this?
iamdizzyonfanta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, poor dude has probably been worrying about his dog.
thatsconelover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:34:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where the...?
I don't know what's going on any more.
Castun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say it was you who missed a golden opportunity to mess with him...
freundwich1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:14:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd have been like, duh...of course! Then look at him like he was an idiot for even considering the opposite.
Angsty_Potatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wh....what?
TheTulipWars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told that was true! Haha. And also that they eat it when they have a stomach ache...
Lachrondizzle23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:51 on February 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uumm OP said doctor..
marti141 ยท 2859 points ยท Posted at 03:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it looks like she is about 30 days pregnant congrats!
How can she be pregnant she is only around her brother?
...well actually they don't follow the same moral code as you or I.
nanna_mouse ยท 2101 points ยท Posted at 06:03:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My fragile sanity wishes you had started with veterinarian lol
taveren4 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 06:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here I was, cursing OP for thinking Cersei is that dumb.
sourpatch30yo ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 08:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah way to bury the lead on that one, OP.
xgravity23 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 10:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For future reference, it's "bury the lede." Not trying to be a prick, but I had the same thought and was cheering for you as I read "bury the" and then "ahhh." Still a prick, though, eh? Sorry :/
dwjlien ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 12:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the US version, OP may be from the UK like me, we write bury the lead.
[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 12:21:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Whelpie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like a good idea?
PMunch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:06:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you don't wanna leave it around the house..
xgravity23 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:27:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, you're right. I did this when I taught English in Germany too, penalized my students for misspellings or "at the weekend" like "errors" until one student politely suggested that maybe her version was the British version and maybe I wasn't as familiar with it as I am with the English version. Apparently I didn't learn all the US/UK differences, apologies!
oily_fish ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 14:40:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
retepred ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:43:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? 'British' and 'English'?
That makes it look like you think American's speak 'English' whereas British speak 'British'? Noooope.
'English' came from... England! And was around a long time before America raised their own flag.
TLDR; British speak English, Americans speak American English. France speaks french (actually a few different types I think), French Canada speaks Canadian French!
AgathaMysterie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:35:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm American and I use the term "British English". It would be silly to refer to my own language as American English, since 99% of the time, in the context of my conversations, that is already assumed.
I expect all English speaking countries follow suit. ;}
FunForTheTeam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:29:34 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, in this case it wouldn't be silly at all. Quite the opposite.
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! You have identified what I feel about "English" versus "American English" versus "British English."
Dragster39 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:33:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhm, eli5...
xgravity23 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bury the lede (US) and bury the lead (UK) mean to put the main point of the story somewhere other than the first paragraph (or sentence, for a story as short as this one).
It's used in journalism to describe when a writer mentions nonchalantly in the last paragraph that, for example, the person just nominated for Energy Secretary doesn't believe in renewable energy or global warming, or that the proposed commercial development that has been praised in the rest of the article will require an orphanage or school or historical site to be demolished and that City Council agreed to that.
TokyoJokeyo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:33:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Lede" is an intentional respelling of "lead" to identify the use of the word as journalistic jargon. It's not particularly wrong for an American to spell it "lead."
Bored_Pigeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could have been a pun
sourpatch30yo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the info!
marti141 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was deliberate it was deliberate
PM_ME_YOUR_SEXYBOOTS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping that said vegetarian...
[deleted] ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 10:03:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do their pets also have a small marriage ceremony before having kids?
Cpt_Tripps ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 11:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do yours not?
crashdown314 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant oglaf (NSFW): http://oglaf.com/dickens/
Milo359 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:48:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wondered how it was NSFW, then I saw the ads.
TryUsingScience ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oglaf is a porn humor comic. If you'd clicked backwards in the archive instead of forward you'd quickly have found yourself in some very NSFW territory.
Milo359 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happy Birthday!
NoseFlock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gotta love some Oglaf!
_serarthurdayne_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't I understand the last panel of this comic? Help.
a_gentlebot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Click "next page" and read the next comic. I had the same problem.
_serarthurdayne_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hooooooooly shit, thank you! I feel like an idiot. Good payoff though.
boom149 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 13:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousins have 3 cats, a brother and sister and their daughter. When we first found out that the sister cat was pregnant, my brother was like "what? Who could the father be? I thought they were indoor cats." I had to be like "well, there's an unfortunately eligible father indoors."
mardavi ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 12:27:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read veterinarian as vegetarian and was very confused for a while
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:03:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I misread "veterinarian" as "vegetarian"
Probably time for me to go to bed.
Tortitudes ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:31:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have two cats. One is the mother and aunt of the other since she got knocked up by her brother before we had them.
It's why you don't wait until they're 5 to spay them if they are around unneutered cats. I love my product of incest cat, but it was unnecessary.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 18:18:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does he look like this?
KIAN420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does the inbred cat look and act if you don't mind me asking
alphazero924 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Inbreeding is actually only slightly statistically more likely to result in birth defects. It's really only when you have whole communities of creatures inbreeding or inbreeding for multiple generations that the genetic similarities in the parents start to really catch up with you. There's enough genetic differences between a brother and sister of genetically dissimilar parents to not make it too big of a problem even if it is really really gross.
Tortitudes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She looks like a normal black cat. She is really weird, but I don't know if it's because of inbreeding or not. My husband said nobody was able to pet her for her first few years, and they only kept her because she was the last of the litter. She is very skittish, usually runs when you walk by her or stand over her. She has to come to you for pets or attention. Hates being picked up or held. She also has a habit of not using the litter box but it's been significantly better than it was.
MajorNoodles ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before I got to the last line I thought you were an OBGYN in West Virginia.
Elysian_Trooper ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:11:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the same conversation I had with my mom...this is also how I ended up with the inbred demon-spawn that is my maltese, Ted. Love him to death though; smartest small dog I've ever trained.
GrumpyBert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well played :)
Heyyoguy123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did the kid turn out?
Vaginabutterflies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the last oart as vegetarian and was more confused than before i read it.
phobius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank god.
For a moment I thought you said "vegetarian"
"That really doesn't improve this.."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly off topic question, how hereditary is mental/emotional/hormonal/batshit crazy in cats?
I had, well technically my sister and bro in law had, but she chose me and I put in the effort to keep her alive, a very mentally unstable cat who eventually had to be put down because she utterly lost it when her kittens hit puberty and tried to kill me. My carer has fallen head over heals for her daughter. How likely is the daughter to have the same problems as her mother? We are saving to get her spayed, even the low income clinic is nearly beyond our means, but I'm insisting. We're also taking precautions to ensure her life and food supply are far more stable than my brother in law ever allowed for her mom. How worried do I need to be? Should I try to give away my (6 mo old, feral born orphan, bottle raised by me male) kitten to further decrease her stress?
marti141 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:07:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say most of a cats behavior is based on how they are raised. That being said they are cats and don't follow the book.
bubblegrubs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:37:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the unsurprisingly high number of southern americans in this thread I was actually surprised when you said "veterinarian", lol.
abridged64 ยท 603 points ยท Posted at 04:20:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor (yet) but an ER tec for ~2 years. Mom comes in with her baby plus two more older kids. Complains that the baby hasn't pooped in a while and wont stop crying. As I'm settling them in with one of the nurses, the baby is bawling, like opera singer lungs bawling. Suddenly mom whips out a white plastic shopping bag and sticks an end in the kids mouth, says "this is the only way she stops crying." Nurse and I share a look and immediately order and emergency x-ray on the kids stomach. Turns out she had ingested a good amount of these bags and it was blocking up in her stomach. Big deal, potentially life threatening. When we confront the mom about her baby feeding habits her only words of defense are "Well I checked all over the bag and I couldn't find anything that said 'non edible.'" TLDR: Mom had been letting her baby teeth on plastic bags because she didn't know they weren't edible.
newsgirl1972 ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 04:26:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God hope this mother lost custody of her children.
dietl ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:31:10 on February 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah cuz foster care is way better...
Ixistant ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 16:01:47 on February 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Foster carers at least don't tend to let babies eat carrier bags.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:30 on May 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Everything_Is_Koan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:33:15 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NO! Let's destroy her children's lifes instead of just educating her so she could become better mother!
[deleted] ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 10:31:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wonder why all the seemingly obvious instructions and descriptions on items. Now I know. Sheesh.
incipit-satan ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:07:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As they say, if you want to get rid of stupid people, remove all the warning labels.
ubiquitoussquid ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:47:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not exactly proving to be foolproof saying.. or is it!?
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:23:48 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My in-laws are foster parents and one of the kids they have is with them because his parents are dumber than a box of rocks. Rocks that are drunk. Drunk rocks that think it's a super idea to go swimming.
This sounds like something they would do. They were never abusive or malicious. Just ... unbelievably stupid, stupid people. So stupid that they consciously (as much as they can, maybe) decided to have another baby while the first two were already wards of the state.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:20:10 on February 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know I'm late, but I just wanted to tell you that I like your words. You have the best words.
UberUSB ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 13:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And, in the USA, that would lead to a successful lawsuit.
sharkbag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:18:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear god this can't be real
FrankieLovie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:05:36 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The crazy thing is they actually do say don't give these to babies because they'll eat them and choke
rigsta ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:40:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WTF O_o
PM_ME_FIT_REDHEADS ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WTF!
white_ruineer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fucking fuck.
rafaelninja13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:59 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She shouldn't have kids...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:20 on June 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did you do to get it out of the baby?
aquamarinekat331 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:01 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Horrifying... Isn't there an unspoken rule that suggests eating plastic is a terrible idea? Some people really should never EVER have kids or be responsible for a kids well-being - be it five seconds or 18+ years.
TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:26:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shocking!
Dr_J_ND ยท 7498 points ยท Posted at 00:16:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That the 30+ cups of coffee he was drinking every day could possibly be the cause of his chief complaints of anxiety and insomnia. He said he was not willing to give this up or try decaf.
BigAggie06 ยท 3171 points ยท Posted at 03:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30+ ... man I'm such an amateur.
randomtrend ยท 1608 points ยท Posted at 04:37:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your heart thanks you for your amateur ways.
no_this_is_God ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:10:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pff like I give a shit. What's my heart ever done for me?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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misadelph ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, they both fill up with blood and throb
sheikhhh10 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:46:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if someone tells me to think with my heart instead of my dick, I should think with my dick instead of my dick, right?
DungSC127 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not much, just keep you alive and...yeah, that's all.
ChunkyDay ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:23:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to weight over 450 lbs. To compensate for the constant lack of energy (because it all went to keeping me alive) I was drinking up to 6 sugar free Monsters a day (at the very least 3). And then I was scared when I started getting hard palpitations.
I'm down to 1 Monster a day now and weight 213 lbs so it's all good. But it was pretty sketchy for a while there. I'm also an ex heroin user.
I've had a fucked up life. haha
Iron-Giant169 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:12:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you still alive
ChunkyDay ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:35:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I often ask myself the same thing. I recently had a very powerful epiphany when I realized I should be dead about 10 times over. I was pre-diabetic, had a 110 resting heart rate, drug use, drinking, the morbid obesity, atrocious diet, and on top of all that I smoked a pack a day (down to about 1 day-ish)
I always knew I was unhealthy, but my entire life - for some reason - I've always had an invincible mentality. Like shit happens to other people but that's not gonna happen to me because I'm special and unique (in a narcissistic, selfish way, not in the "I'm an indigo child", snowflake, safe space way), but I never realized until a few weeks just how close to death I really was. All it would have taken was one thing to go wrong and I truly believe I wouldn't have made it through. I was absolutely trashing my body and even years after the drugs I'm still suffering the consequences of it.
Iron-Giant169 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:42:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit that's crazy. At least you're doing better now man keep it up
ChunkyDay ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:53:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am. Thank you.
I stopped doing drugs. I no longer drink. I've lost about 245 pounds. Don't smoke anymore only thanks to vaping. Shit, I really have come a long way. haha.
chairitable ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:55:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes, when you're passionate about something, you just gotta put your heart on the line, you know?
Santa1936 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:09:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any evidence caffeine actually affects your heart?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:59:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Normal amounts? No real evidence of that. It momentarily raises blood pressure, but the claims that it stays high due to caffeine have been debunked AFAIK.
30+ cups a day? No way that amount of a substance causing hypertension pumping almost constantly through you wouldn't.
Santa1936 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:33:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. I guess most studies are probably assuming reasonable amounts of caffeine ingestion
dutch_penguin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:16:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea but according to the American heart association the results are conflicting.
elthrowawayoyo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't belive it. I get liquid shits if I have more than 3 per day.
amrasmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for being muscular.
Menism ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 06:28:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle would make 2 pots of coffee before work and another pot at lunch. Every single day. On weekends depending on what he was doing would have 4-5 pots.
He recently had a heart attack and died on the spot.
Please be careful of caffeine consumption and watch your heart.
CrazyPurpleBacon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus H Christ
whizzwr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:16:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read pots as cups, so I thought eh that's not too bad. Then I realize my mistake.
Menism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it was insane how much he would drink.
userdeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:41 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How fat was he?
Menism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:25 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maye 190 pounds? But like 6'7 also.
scribble23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine recently had a massive heart attack at the age of 41. He was amazed that the 15-20 cups of coffee he drank each day may have contributed to it. He was very, very lucky to survive. He gave up all caffeine during his recuperation. However, when I visited him over Christmas, he offered me (non decaf) coffee and poured himself one when I declined....
Urthor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:36 on February 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this health warning, I'll be decreasing my consumption from 1 a week to maybe a couple a year
coolkid1717 ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 05:53:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knows you need to hit that 100 mark to slow down time.
Chloemeow25 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And save people from fires.
icer816 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:43:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came for the Futurama reference. Was not disappointed.
Pepper_Grinder ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:37:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came to make the Futurama reference. Was bitterly disappointed.
EvagriaTheDamaged ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:37:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink at most 6-7 cups in a day, but usually 2-3. But currently none because I haven't bothered buying more coffee. I'm impressed... worried? Yeah, worried.
puterTDI ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:56:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink 1 8 oz fully caffeinated and 2 8 oz 50/50 caffeinated and decaf.
I am pretty sure 30 cups would kill me.
Wobbles42 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30 cups would kill me too.
Cause of death: acute caffeine deficiency.
Cloud_Chamber ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:14:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literal addiction
Wobbles42 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Occupational hazard. Am engineer. Our purpose is to convert nearly worthless caffeine into valuable intellectual property.
Most people think engineering requires brains. In reality, it's pretty much all in the kidneys.
Cloud_Chamber ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:27:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I solute you and your kidneys
Pepper_Grinder ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you did there
good4damichigander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/thread
Diannika ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh hi from the writers side. We turn caffine into wurdz (they turn into words in editing :p )
Plane_pro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a healthy engineer (student)...I run off Ice Cream, Pizza, middle eastern/Indian food, and the idea in my head. Thus my kidneys are protected...just not my giant belly
Wobbles42 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:45:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All things in moderation.
As an engineer, I am sure you understand that the optimum situation is for every part of a machine to fail at precisely the same time. To die with healthy kidneys would simply be a waste.
Plane_pro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite so good sir! Though, one could purpose the kidneys to work in a different human machine, though, since they are spares that have been salvaged, they don't come with a users manual (which we make comically difficult anyways), so I wouldn't offer a warranty on my kidneys.
But then again, it is the time-honored tradition of countless generations of engineers to stay up pulling all-nighters to finish some useless assignment that we procrastinated on. This would not be possible without the magical Arabic coffee bean, and thus, without coffee, we can deduce that the civilization built by engineers, called silicon valley and STEM departments at universities, would crumble to dust.
Wobbles42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the rather glaring lack of access panels for spare parts removal and installation is, in my mind, the single best argument against Intelligent Design. Design? Maybe. Intelligent? My ass.
Plane_pro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
judging on the use of the rectal probe...I would say that there is one access...port
KingAdeto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn I always make sure to not drink caffeine on weekends/1 day during week. That way 1 cup always does the trick.
puterTDI ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
on weekends I drink 1 cup in the morning.
I do have tea pretty freely because of how much less caffeine it has. My only rule for that is that on week days I don't have any after 4:00.
springwanders ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:58:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink mostly 2 per day and my mother thinks I'm addicted, jesus
Xuande ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:19:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL I'm a filthy coffee casual
that-freakin-guy ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 05:27:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha amateur, I drink 50 cups daily no probleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeerrrrrrrreeerreeeresereerrtrdrfrrdreg
diversity_is_wrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balzac!!!
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:35:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You only live
onceone dayReal_TomBrady ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:05:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One day is still once.
Dekaryu ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:17:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOLOD ?
N7_MintberryCrunch ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:55:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's trying to get to that 100th cup where time slows down and he can save everyone from the fire.
Taylor1391 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How else is he going to escape the bear?
UnderThe102 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:43:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta pump those numbers up those are rookie numbers.
lvl4barbarian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta up your game, those are rookie numbers
baxtermcsnuggle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If i drank that much coffee, i would cry decaff
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came for the Dave Grohl reference also. Was still not disappointed!
baxtermcsnuggle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:12:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FRESH POTTTTS!!!!!
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will never not laugh at that. Dave Grohl yelling for fresh pots is one of the most satisfying funny videos I've ever seen.
gerusz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:54:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the first time I feel like an amateur too. I can get up to 10+ cups on a bad day, but 30? Wow.
Alexstarfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's got nothing on Fry.
curiousiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in coffee, got free coffee all day, and can't even conceive of drinking that much.
Phylar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't drink any. :(
triggertheoverride ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I can barely handle 1 without getting twitchy
Trinitykill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard that if you drink 100 you can stop time.
NeverMidnightGames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i can drink 3 before im done work
3rd_Shift_Tech_Man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quality over quantity, ya big aggie.
SarcasticSquirrl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1: good to go. 2: eh, stomach grumbling a bit. 3: Hello Mr. Toilet, let's play a game. 5+ death (I hope)
TrainOfThought6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For real, I'm debating phasing out my one cup per day. How the hell does someone think 30 cups of coffee is a good idea?
PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought 4 cups a day was a lot..
flj7 ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 02:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, cutting caffeine was the first thing I considered when I started having sleep problems.
[deleted] ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 05:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you use it right it can actually help with sleep problems. Simply stop your caffeine input after midday and your caffeine-dependant brain should issue a sleep command in time for the evening.
It's especially interesting when you stop the intake altogether. You basically can't stay awake for more than 14 hours or so, which means sooner or later you start waking up at 3 am. Wouldn't recommend cold turkey though. Headaches.
galacticviolet ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 07:48:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I once tried quitting caffeine cold turkey and after less than 24 hours I was already in hell. It was the worst headache I had ever experienced in my life. It felt the way people with intense migraines sometimes describe.
After a while of sheer agony where I could barely move from this headache, I had to drag myself to the bathroom to vomit. I don't think I needed to vomit but more like my body had no idea what to do so it was trying everything it knew.
(and I'm not exaggerating on bit... my base line is that I never get headaches usually, am generally healthy... especially at the time I was very fit and healthy)
Luckily I had that day off, but unluckily there just so happened to be NO caffeine at all in the house. I had to beg my husband to bring me a soda (as in, come home from work to bring it to me). The soda stopped the headache pretty quickly but then I felt like I was in a vaguely disassociated from my own body/life moment where everything felt dampened and hazy.
My conclusion is that caffeine withdrawal is hell and I never want to do it again.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:00:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get headaches all the time. I'm used to it. I live off excedrin migraine.
The one I had from slamming the brakes on my coffee intake when we were out one morning after months straight of at least 8 cups before 3pm was far and above the worst headache I have ever experienced. Nothing worked. No amount of medicine. Nothing. There was a point I was laying there bedridden and the thought of shooting myself in the head went from a metaphorical thought to a possible real solution to the pain.
MCWizzrobe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:52:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why you're getting so much flack for this. When I quit coffee I had the worst migraines in my life. Certain people are more sensitive to caffeine depending on their genes. Some people are insensitive so they don't get withdrawals while for others the withdrawals are brutal.
Source: http://www.caffeineinformer.com/caffeine-sensitivity
galacticviolet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this!
It was getting weird how irrational and aggressive some of these other commenters were getting about this... as if my having had a bad experience was somehow a grave offense to them. They must suffer greatly during cold and flu seasons when everyone around them is sick in different ways.
Caffeinexo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:42:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hun... It sounds like you actually did have a migraine that time. Especially the throwing up and haze afterwards once it finally calmed down. Lack of caffeine could have induced it with the soda caffine helping to relieve it. Something to keep in mind for the future (say if the soda doesn't work next time , you know not to panic)
galacticviolet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was around 6 years ago and it never happened again. But thanks for being literally the only person who didn't call me a liar.
Bulletsandblueyes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:30:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not even sure what to say to this. I drink 5-10 cups of coffee every time I go to work and 2 or 3 when I wake up. Recently I went back home and didn't drink any coffee for 2 weeks, and didn't feel any different, maybe slightly more tired. I know everything varies from person to person but having such a intense withdrawal from caffeine is crazy, and makes me think something else might be going on.
galacticviolet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea, but it never happened again (and nothing like it happened before then either). It was just a normal day, with the exception that I stopped drinking any coffee or soda.
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:20 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same reaction for quitting vofee cold turkey (7-10 cups a day). And I slept 17 hours every night for 2 days.
Bulletsandblueyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:29:35 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are 4 months late....
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:11:50 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, 4 months later I still had this reaction in my past :P
Bulletsandblueyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:15:30 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you exercise a lot and drink lots of water?
Bulletsandblueyes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:50:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink a lot of water and lift heavy ass weights if you want to call that exercise
afakefox ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:41:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you grossly over dramatized not having caffeine for less than 24 hours (or caffeine "withdrawal" entirely). Listen, I've been a heroin addict and would still go to the store to get my own medicine and shit. Calling your husband home from work to bring you a fucking soda, smdh
galacticviolet ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:13:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't dramatize a thing about it, it was the most pain I've ever experienced, this happened to me. I get that reddit has a lot of people who like to tell tall tales for fun, but this is not one of them. It's a little disturbing how everyone is seemingly genuinely pissed off that they think I'm lying about a horrible experience I had that has nothing to do with them... as if not believing this happened to me is some massively important opinion they need to share. It doesn't change what happened.
Likewise, I'm not looking for pity, it was to serve as a warning that this happened and maybe be careful going cold turkey on caffeine. Also, no, I feel no shame in having had to ask for help relieving the pain I was in, it's called an emergency and that's why my spouse and I are married, because we would fucking pick up from work and go help if the other needed help. This was not a "oh, boo hoo, I feel parched~" princess situation, this was I laid in anguish for several hours and tried other things before calling for help. If the soda hadn't worked I would have been asking him to take me to the hospital.
apatheticbliss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:06:31 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and I both get really bad headaches after 1/2 a day or so without caffeine. It's sort of like a band of pressure that's squeezing both inward and outward simultaneously. It's right up there, maybe just below a migraine. I get cranky, and lights hurt more too. There are what? 19 of us, at least, who understand your pain, if it's any comfort.
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:37:47 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same reaction to quitting cofee cold turkey. I was fainting, sleeping 17 hours and barely moved from headache.
It's nice that you quit heroin but that doesn't make you ultimate arbiter in what is and what is not valid withdrawal. Get over yourself and stop self-pitying.
Timeyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh did you actually manage to get high off soda?
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:48 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soda contains caffeine. That might be body's reaciotn to getting what it wants after withdrawal.
Stabilobossorange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:15:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahh, I remember my first coffee too, kid.
Don't chew gum while you walk, you might have a heart attack at this rate!
galacticviolet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure how you expect me to respond to this non-sequitur.
Stabilobossorange ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:30:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I were you, I would stay away from anything that contacts your skin, just incase the 'withdrawal' is
Its a tough world out there, especially when things like coffee, paperclips, air, & people are just out to get you.
galacticviolet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:41 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People on reddit are off the wall... I'm just constantly in slightly amused awe at the totally nonsensical replies they come up with.
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:16 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you dude, just because your body react in a certain way to certain substances doesn't mean that everyone does. And if she reacts badly that doesn't mean she's weak.
Goddamit, how can people be so inconsiderate and pathethic in theirt attempts to be cool?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This story is straight bullshit. Caffeine withdrawals don't hit this hard, you're either a hypochondriac or a lying attention whore - probably the latter.
galacticviolet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The number of fallacies in this reply is rather impressive.
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:53 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're blatantly wrong, I slept 17 hours every night after going cold turkey from having 10 cups a day and barely moved from headache. Several years ago it was discovered that caffeine develops real physical addiction, if you drink enough cofee your body will fuck you up if it doesn't get its fix.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
huh. I just realized I ran out of coffee a few days ago and have been having the hardest time sleeping....
Haizan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I don't drink coffee. I'll fuck up my sleep schedule myself, tyvm.
Tommix11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink a lot of coffee but sometimes I don't feel like drinking more than one cup a day. I don't get headaches, in my teenage years though I got headaches when I did not drink coffee.
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:18:13 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got them in my adult years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean "you can't stay awake for more than 14 hours" ?? That sounds terrible.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's my personal reaction to caffeine withdrawal, so it may differ for other people and of course it may be partially a placebo effect, but when I stop my rather high caffeine input, that tends to screw up my sleep cycle. Normally humans have circadian cycle with with an average of 24.2 hours. (i.e. if there's no external clock/sunlight that's how long your days will be) and that also roughly what I experience. Hence when I don't have to get up at a set time, I'll to go to bed later and later. Without caffeine it's the opposite. 22 hours or so in my experience.
Given that the body adapts caffeine very quickly (within a week or so for me) isn't actually problematic. You just need to force yourself not go to be in the early afternoon for a few days. So you can stay awake longer. It just takes some effort.
Aaronsaurus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Currently struggling staying awake more than 12-14 hours. Needing to nap for thirty minutes in the evening, waking up feeling like death and staying awake for another 2-4 to make sure I don't screw up my sleep.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to test your blood on any deficiencies.
Aaronsaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Due for a blood test soon anyway, was going to bring up how tired I am ^
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually fighting in the other direction, my natural circadian cycle was measured when I was in my late teens and having behavioral and sleep issues and it was over 25 hours.
I wonder if drinking enough caffeine and quitting would give me some relief by shortening that to 24h instead of being eternally tired and fighting every morning as it feels I'm getting up earlier and earlier by just getting up at the same time.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, as far as I've read it's normal for people in industrialized countries to have these kinds of problem. It's just that for most the symptoms are much weaker than for you. Abundance of artificial light messes with our brain. So on the off-chance that this hasn't been told to you a hundred times: try avoiding bright light, especially when it has a blue component (i.e. is cold) in the evening. Hence phones, computers are generally advised against and if you use them you might want to at least decrease brightness and chance the colour temperature (there are apps for that).
Apart from that I wouldn't recommend to seek out caffeine withdrawal. It tends to give you headaches. Caffeine might help with getting up, though. E.g. I sometimes take a pill while still in bed. Probably not healthy, but it's a rather good motivation to get up when it's physically impossible to continue sleeping.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I know, I meant it more tongue in cheek as I thought it was interesting your withdrawal had that effect on you. I keep myself to two large coffees a day to get through it and yes, I've got f.lux installed as well to make my screens a bit more reddish after sunset and I try not to use it in the evenings too much.
But still, the times I've been able to fall asleep before 1am last year I could probably count on 2 hands. The amount of times I was able to show up at work well before 9am instead of near the "almost too late" deadline, same :)
This 9 to 5 life isn't healthy for everyone I guess, it's an eternal jet laggy feeling with just abuot 5 to 6 hours of sleep in just because I'm always awake for about 18 hours after waking up as per standard. I've been getting it under control a little bit with prescribed melatonin tablets for the evenings to activate that night brain mode.
Appreciate your suggestion/feedback though :)
Stabilobossorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean 25h? As in you get tired, say 20 minutes earlier each progressive day?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, 1 hour later.
Basically it means I'm always struggling to fall asleep at a reasonable time and it feels like every morning the alarm for work is set one hour earlier, which leads to being exhausted by Friday due being forced to sleep before tired and getting up before well rested all week long.
Stabilobossorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Melatonin may help? Obviously with advice from your doctor and taken as instructed. But i believe its mechanism of action is via circadian rhythm interference.
Everything_Is_Koan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:09 on May 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After I quit cofee cold turkey, going from 10 cups a day to 0 nI slept 17 hours every night for a dew days and barely stood up. Caffeine can develop real, legit physical addiction.
flj7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully I didn't try to quit cold turkey. I'm not a coffee drinker, which I think helped, as I don't rely on caffeine to function in the mornings. It was more my soda consumption that was the issue. I just lowered my intake every few days. It's improved both my sleep and my general health, since soda is terrible for you.
olosh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. If you drink more coffee you will come up with better solutions to the sleeplessness problem.
DanjaHokkie ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 04:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to give decaf coffee so much crap. Like, why drink coffee at all if you aren't drinking it for the caffeine? Well, 10 years later and enjoying the taste of coffee, I have 1 regular in the morning followed by 1-2 decafs throughout the day. Even my in-laws look at me funny when I ask if they have decaf when I want a coffee after dinner.
movie_man ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 05:26:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decaf after dinner is a palate cleanser. It has a great purpose.
EDIT: spelling
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:51:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Palate. Just so you know! :)
Palette, pallet, and palate are all different words (although one of the secondary definitions of pallet points to palette).
But yeah, when you talk about your mouth, it's "palate", as in "palatable"!
movie_man ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:53:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank you! Spelling is really important to me, even though I make mistakes, so I really appreciate it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem, my cinematic male friend!
chairitable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this gives me a great idea for a new username...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
palettable? Grab it quick before it's gone!
chairitable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha, I was thinking (pall)a(table). No worries though, I'm alright with this one! Just fun to come up with new names/plays on words :P
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either way, it would go well with your current username! :P
evilrabbit ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 05:28:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decaf drinkers are true coffee lovers.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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m0nkeyv00d00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:33:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
awesome. subbed
xIdontknowmyname1x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, idk of its just because I haven't had good decaf, but how they get rid of the caffeine makes it taste way worse than a regular of the same standard in my experience. Especially with crap coffee, but even with better coffees is still true
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you're used to the bitter goodness of caffeine and your taste buds miss it when it's not there.
Source: my ass
nathanv221 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience this will always be true, but less so for espresso drinks. If you really want regular coffee try a decaf americano, almost as good as the real thing.
evilrabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do agree. I always wonder if it's just because decaf is treated as second class though.
Blackagar-Boltagon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:28:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 27 and just made the switch to afternoon decaf about a week ago. Same thing, 1 cup of regular coffee (or a latte or w/e) in the AM, then the rest of the day it's decaf. It has been great so far, wish I would have done it sooner.
claryn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There have been studies that show just the smell and taste of coffee can give you a kick and wake you up even if it's decaf, if you've been a regular caffeinated coffee drinker. Like a Pavlov reaction.
Source
DanjaHokkie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Total Pavlov. Usually it's the warmth and taste that I need but the caffeine on top of my odd work hours help.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some do drink decaf for the caffiene because they're very sensitive to the tiny amount of caffeine that is in decaf.
Mupyeah ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 04:53:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way I can think of that made it possible for him to drink that much is with one of those cup holder hats that also brewed the coffee. How the fuck do you drink that much of anything?!
[deleted] ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 04:58:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah I see that you have never had a terrible office job with free coffee
Mupyeah ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 05:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at Starbucks, actually.
CherryDaBomb ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So terrible customer service job with mediocre coffee?
Mupyeah ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 05:22:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The job is pretty good all things considered. It is by far the highest-paying costumer-service job I have had, the benefits are amazing for hourly employees, holiday pay, approved overtime if I need it (and I do). I am also the one running the shift, so I never do anything I don't want to. The annoying people that I had to deal with for hours on end while serving and praying they tipped me? I don't care anymore. I get paid either way, and if they are annoying, I don't deal with them for very long. All of that with free lunch and coffee and tuition reimbursement.
Wiztim ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:26:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto. Sweet benefits for service job and don't forget the free lb whole bean
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While that isn't anything to sneeze at since that is $14 a week in product for every employee, it just doesn't really matter to me.
mackrenner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive def thought of trying out Starbucks if only for the benefits.
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really easy. I filled out one application and it got sent to every Starbucks in a 25 mile radius.
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Well good then!
plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/starbucks <--- employee sub that anyone can see/comment in
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I thank you for the information, that sounds like a bad idea.
plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:39 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fair enough. take care
Dr_J_ND ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. That's what he said. He worked in a shop and just would brew pot after pot and drink it all for himself at work. Said he would do 4-5 full pots most days while working.
TravelBug87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is... insane. I feel like a savage if I manage to drink a entire pots worth in one day.
Pepper_Grinder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do.. And I get through about zero cups a day
flyboy_za ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or even a terrible office job where you have to supply your own coffee.
LikeGoldAndFaceted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine drinking 30 cups a day of that swill.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a LOT but it's also a great excuse to get up and leave your desk so..
bilbo_boozebaggins ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:05:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mupyeah ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:11:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you cold-brew it in large quantities, you could just chug it continuously and cut out steps 3 and 2.
Kehndy12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
7) Sell lake front property.
theniceguytroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He could be Doctor Ooblek from RWBY. Just running around at high speeds with a perpetually full coffee thermos.
Kehndy12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought my ~10 cups of peppermint tea a day is a lot.
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it still is. I can barely get my 4 cups of tea down.
Arkanial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink about 1-2 gallons of tap water a day(so many bathroom breaks) just cause I love the taste and how refreshing it feels. I really doubt someone could do a similar amount of coffee. Although there is a chance I'm just being a huge bitch that can't handle caffeine.
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't sound healthy at all.
ASK-ABOUT-VETRANCH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this isn't really making sense to me.. Assuming this guy was having an actual cup of coffee (as in the volume) and having 30+ that's two gallons of coffee. Caffeine-wise he's not even halfway to LD50, but how do you injest two gallons of anything?
Mupyeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty close to the LD50 of water, but other things might be different since they have electrolytes.
Conservative-Penguin ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:38:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha its Fry from Futurama
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:57:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"That's nothing. Back in High School, I used to drink 100 cans of cola a week. Riiiiight up until my 3rd heart attack."
Panda_Steak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Of course I've been up all night! Not because of caffeine, it was insomnia. I couldn't stop thinking about coffee."
s__n ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:46:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow I've lost my tolerance for caffeine as I've gotten older[*]. In college I'd drink probably 48oz of very black tea each day, but by the time I was 30 I'd cut back to 32oz/day. I ended up going to my PCP because I was feeling jittery with occasional muscle twitches and some random anxiety.
After some lab work he finally told me to try cutting out the caffeine. Guess what... problem solved! I feel like an idiot wasting his time, especially since I've always had the occasional panic attack and thought I knew what they felt like (the caffeine ones are different, but not that much). I can still have the occasional heavy caffeine day, but just not too many days in a row.
* Apparently it runs in my family, b/c my aunt can't tolerate caffeine at all. My dad, however, still drinks a pot of coffee a day. ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
coconutnuts ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 05:33:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought for a second you switched to PCP becausre coffee was making you jittery...
BeardsuptheWazoo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same... Like.wtf
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:33:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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RetiredMillennial ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here! I can get away with a 1/3 of a cup of coffee... any more and I have anxiety and heart palps.
Astudentofmedicine ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:59:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you'd have anxiety too if you always needed the bathroom. I bet he was waking up 5 times a night to go pee.
soggy7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:00:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His breath must have been so bad
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:13:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god.
I get major anxiety after one cup of coffee, can't imagine drinking 30 day
Delphizer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every day is a balance between my love of coffee and it triggering existential crisis's I can't control.
I suggest 29 1/2
NotBearhound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A DAY?!?
GreenThumbSeedling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:51 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, I have to work up and build up a tolerance or 2 cups can make me have panic attacks more easily.
I can't imagine drinking 30 cups in a day, would they even drink anything else?
Thebossjarhead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Name checks out.
Celestialmd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as a university psychiatrist, I LOVE this!
Nyrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The university version of the guy who buys 20 bananas?
imgoingtoforgetthis2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I salute that man.
a-r-c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
did he also have huge stomach ulcers?
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dad?
RevWaldo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked for Voltaire.
doxie_love ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother was a ridiculous caffeine/coffee addict who would drink multiple pots of coffee every day. When she woke up after having brain surgery, she made a huge stink about how badly she needed coffee. After arguing with a nurse for a while, finally one of the aids just gives in and brings her a cup of coffee. My mom takes one sip, spits it out and announces that decaf just isn't real coffee. The nurse tried to explain she shouldn't have caffeine but my mother, who was laying in a hospital bed with a freshly stitched 8 inch incision on the back of her head, was insistent that she had a headache strictly because of caffeine withdrawals. They brought in her surgeon to try to talk sense into her, but eventually he caved.
Loghugger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, I started having problems after drinking a pot within a few hours of waking up. I can't imagine what would happen if I drank that much.
BAMspek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thought of quitting probably makes him more anxious
ItsTheFroggyGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you even find time to do that? That's like he gulps down a cup and then has another one ready at all times. Jesus
PM_ME_YOUR_SPUDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coffee addiction is a real and serious thing, it really is best to treat it like you would other addictive substances. Pick a set amount, have that amount, never go over. Otherwise you risk increasing your tolerance more and more. Sure I probably COULD drink 10 cups of coffee a day, but it'd just make me feel like shit, so why go over my normal amount.
Intensly_Meh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit! here I am thinking 5 -10 was bad!
einsteinxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought around 40 was serious health hazard for caffeinated coffee
DI0GENES_LAMP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
let's round down and say 100 mg of caffeine per cup. that's a minimum of 3k mg of caffeine a day.
that is fucking insane. but i also wonder if that kind of consumption of a stimulant was masking an underlying condition. maybe this man beat mononucleosis.
Blurgas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mother of a friend is a doctor. She's had an unfathomable number of truckers that don't realize their heart problems/chest pains/etc are caused by the ungodly amount of RedBull/Monster and/or NoDoz they'd been taking.
springchikun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At that point, would meth be healthier? Asking for a friend.
wolfmeister3001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet he's got monster diarrhea in the morning
Send_Me_Trump_Nudes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that quite dangerous for your heart? Forgive my ignorance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is that even possible.
Owwmysoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad used to drink that much coffee and sleep like a rock. He had a cast iron stomach, though. Mom used to joke he was part billy goat.
ETNxMARU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DON'T FUCK WITH DECAF, MAN.
cosko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulda just a a started abusing Adderall at that point. Would have been more fun.
Ripple_Nipple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get nervous after a monster and 2 cups of coffee over a 9 hour period. I can't imagine 30 cups a day. He's like archer is with booze.
awesomedan24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still has nothing on Voltaire
VaneWimsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never underestimate the power of addiction to cause denial.
throwawayaccounthe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, at this point 1 cup of coffee gives me panic attacks.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. You gotta have a stomach of steel for that as well. I think I hit 20 cups once pulling an all nighter in high school for science fair. Got to school to turn in my project before the vomiting and generalized feeling like death kicked in and I went home. Used to get crazy amounts of extra shots of espresso in drinks in college but similar gut issues generally occurred. And then there's the other end of the gut as well...
Kind of laughing that each of my examples involved drinking so much for the purpose of staying up and this guy is still like "Man I can't sleep but nope drinking my 30 cups still." Must piss forever as well.
DarthNobody ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure a friend of mine can drink this much. He'll drink a large coffee from DD and then go straight to sleep afterwards. He is a fucking mutant and caffeine is the mutagen.
FunconVenntional ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad use to measure his coffee consumption in pots per day. Started getting terrible migraines and for a couple years he thought it was an allergy to chocolate. My mother surreptitiously decaffeinated him. He wanted to be irritated, but the migraines had stopped, and then he found he could have chocolate again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since he was an insomniac, that'd mean he'd be up like 20-24 hours, probably 24, more like, drinking coffee. That's 1.25 cups of coffee per hour, every hour of the day. He'd probably have other things to do in life, as well, and perhaps he did get some sleep, so the density of cups of coffee goes up. That's a shit load of coffee.
Something_Syck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuck
If I drink more than 3 cups in 1 day I'll not only paint the toilet but my stomach will hurt and I'll never get to sleep without lots of alcohol or weed or both.
but THIRTY cups in one day?! that's almost impressive
knoxwhitesnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I so wish you told him to get the fuck out of your office then!
larsvondank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30+ cups? Lets say you sleep 8 hours. Thats 16 hours of fresh pots and chuggin' - Two cups per hour and the occasional third after every meal. Will fuck you up physically and mentally. RIP guts. Whats the daily maximum you should drink, you ask? 4 (it is individual and some people should drink less)
Empyrealist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But Dr. J, what else can I dunk-on?
Matcat5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only about 70 more till he can stop time.
Mehkiism13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I thought I was an absolute madlad for drinking 4 a day when I was studying for finals...
tehweave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIRTY?
By approximation how many ounces of coffee is that?
Blimey, if I have one cup of coffee I go from productive to anxious within an hour. How the hell does anyone do more than that?
DoctorNinja8888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must be my dad's doctor or my future doctor.
Ragnor_be ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does his stomach even cope with that? I get nauseated after my 5th cup.
I_am_jacks_reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that's a hardcore addict.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you forced to do something like prescribe anti-anxiety (or whatever the class is called) drugs for somebody like this? I mean, how can you justify billing an insurance company for anything beyond counseling when the patient flat out refuses to attempt behavior modification in such a ridiculous situation?
BeastM8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need that much just to get out of bed
Samuel101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just curious, isn't instantly switching to decaf detrimental to the patient as 'tis basically going cold turkey for an addiction? Won't there be withdrawal symptoms?
Shoelesshobos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you by chance the doctor of Dave Ghrol?
Nonchalant25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yaaa. Think your exaggerating. Obviously. No one is drinking 30 cups a day. Your diagnosis is highly questionable to begin with. And now your throwing it all over bye internet. I think the questionable person here is you. And god forbid,if your still practicing medicine. Try to be a bit more attentive to real medical problems with your pattience. And try to be a tad more professional as well.
david0990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother has issues sleeping. I told him it's probably the 3-4 pots of coffee a day. He got pissed called me a control freak and walked off... Whatever. I'll make sure his tombstone is shaped like a coffee mug.
balleriffic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tweek?
meowsaysdexter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this same conversation with a health center doctor at my uni.
doc: "How much coffee do you have a day"?
me: "Four or five pots."
doc: "Four to five cups is a little high, try not to drink after 4..."
me:"No, four or five pots."
doc: "Well, see now there's your problem."
PlsNoOlives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad drinks POTS of coffee, almost no water, has outrageous heartburn all the time, can't sleep at night without drinking a 6 pack of beer, and totally refuses to hear reason on the subject.
(And eats like garbage while complaining about how heavy he is, and generally annoys me, which I consider his greatest health risk.)
momsdayprepper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Voltaire was rumored to drink over 50 cups per day. But Voltaire also didn't hold down an office job so he prolly wasn't as worried sleeping at 5pm and waking up at 3 in the morning.
Actionmaths ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is there even time to drink 30 coffees in a day...
HeavierMetal89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah I see you met Dave Grohl.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Went to see a urologist for a thing and we were talking and he told me about people coming in complaining about having to urinate a lot or even soiling themselves at times. He'd ask about their caffeine intake and that was 9/10 the problem. He tells them to cut it out or down by a fair bit to solve the problem but they are they need it and won't part with it...
queefiest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My MIL is always trying to push caffeine on me past lunchtime, yet complains that she wakes up at night for hours. One day when she offered me a post supper coffee saying the caffeine is good for you, I just said maybe that's what's keeping you awake at night? No way! Not caffeine! At least she's stopped pushing it.
SatansAssociate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30+ a day?! Is he even able to sit still, with all that caffeine in his system?
thatdogoverthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It always shocks me that people who do this don't drop dead from heart attacks before seeing a doctor. The heart is an amazing machine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought having 4+ a day was a serious problem. 30 is insane...I feel truly sorry for him, it's a drug addiction
savershin ยท 810 points ยท Posted at 03:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This will be a long story: When I was an Internal Medicine resident I came across a very nice 50 year-old Dominican lady, she was well mannered but one could tell she was not the sharpest tool in the shed. As I was prepping her chart for our first visit, I noticed that she'd been seen by every single digestive disease MD in our hospital system. Not only that, she'd had EVERY SINGLE PROCEDURE IN THE BOOK. Ranging from endoscopies up both holes and culminating in an exploratory laparotomy (you're opened up to basically look inside you when we have no clue what's going on). All of this because for years she had one single complaint, she reported severe gnawing pain in her stomach. At this point I should mention that she was spanish speaking only. Not only that she had a very heavy dominican accent, and I was the first hispanic doctor to ever see her. My first language is spanish and even I had difficulty understanding her. So she comes in and after exchanging some first time pleasentries I politely ask her how she's doing. Sure enough although she was smiling and said she felt well she pointed at her belly and said "it" was biting again, and asked for the cream to kill "it". At this point I got intrigued. Her medication list only mentioned a cream used for herpes breakthroughs. The previous fellow only mentioned in his note that in every single visit she only asked for the cream and nithing else. When I asked what she meant by the biting and what she intended to do with the cream, she very calmly tells me she intended to stick the cream up her ass in order to kill the bird living inside her. After delving more deeply into her story, it turns out she didn't have a medical condition. Ever since she was a little girl, she believed tahat after eating whole quail egg, the bird had spawned inside her and gnawed away in her insides whenever she was very hungry. After a short visit to psych, she was diagnosed with a somatic type delusional disorder. No amount of medication or psychotherapy will cure her, but she was still a fully functional mother of 2 who payed her taxes and had to part-time jobs. I reached out to every digestive disease doctor in out hospital system once more, to make sure she never receives an inappropriate invasive intervention. I've been following her now for three years and she's happy as one can be, considering she has a bird living inside her..
tldr: lady complains of "pain" in her belly, worst case of lost in translation ensues, gets very invasive medical procedures, turns out she's just cuckoo
phearlez ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 17:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If any of her appointments had been at the top of the hour this would have been diagnosed a lot quicker (though I guess if she's not yet in a gown the sound could be a little muffled)
Valdrax ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:10:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
Take your upvote and leave.
bless_ure_harte ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:17:57 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very umprofessional
amphicoelias ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:43:45 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now with paragraphs!
CatsAreDivine ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This wins for me.
Seattle1213 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:01:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why won't any amount of medication or therapy "fix" her?
Macrophage_Mage ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:01:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Delusional disorders are notorious among psychiatric illnesses as some of the diseases most resistant to treatment, whether via medication, therapy, or otherwise.
1011010110011 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 09:14:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, for some conditions, we -don't- have the technology.
Black_Lannister ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:59:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya can't change someones beliefs
trwwyco ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:47:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That tldr was absolutely delightful. Upvoted!
EmofJohnson ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:39:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't someone have done 'surgery' to remove the 'bird'?
andygchicago ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:26:36 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a psych patient at my hospital that had a similar delusion, except she inserted a chicken into her vagina so it would "bake" into a baby. They did this whole song-and-dance when they removed the chicken parts, and had a baby doll they said was her baby. They said she had to be given away, and that she can have no more babies. From what I understand, it worked for a while, but I haven't kept in touch with her condition.
guacamoleo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:52:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what will she think next time she feels hungry?
ducttapetricorn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:22:40 on January 24, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psych resident here... whoa what an awesome case.
portingil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:00 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so it was just occasional hunger? How did you convince her to not use the medication?
andygchicago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:11 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, 50% of medicine comes from a patient's self-reporting or subjective findings. Even with a proper medical translator, I can see doctors performing invasive procedures.
Mountaindrewsky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's cuckoo. Believes she has a bird living in her. Cuckoo...... Bird....... ha! I see what you did there.
icecreamsoup ยท 396 points ยท Posted at 00:33:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While in dental school my friend pulled out several bombed out (technical term) teeth on a adult male. After the procedure was finished and post-op instructions we given, the man asked, "So when should I expect my new teeth to grow in?" He was serious.
Jatrap ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me three reads to realize that "bombed out" was a bad thing. I was picturing like solid gold teeth with little diamond studs.
icecreamsoup ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:45:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, it's not a good thing in this context
seagrapes08 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:54:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does it mean though?
PerntDoast ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:56:28 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trashed . Rotten. Bad.
Winner_Of_Lotto420 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:43:56 on February 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should only be a couple years after your reincarnation, sir.
ufonyx ยท 266 points ยท Posted at 03:58:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My S.O. is a med student. He helped to diagnose a 40 year old woman who finally sought out a doctor after having open, festering wounds on her entire torso for over a year. The open wounds only appeared after more than a year of painful, visible lumps on her breasts. She had never sought treatment prior to this.
S.O. had to inform her that her entire body was riddled with cancer, that there was no treatment to help her, and that she would be dead very soon.
Her sister, who was there the entire time, began loudly proclaiming what a shame it was that nothing could ever have been done, and that hopefully someday we would be able to detect cancer sooner. S.O. watched the doctor explain that pretty much any other woman in the country would have gotten effective treatment at the first sign of the lumps.
This was DURING breast cancer awareness month.
nemo_sum ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 14:21:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was a sad story up until "nothing could ever have been done" and then it's a hard left turn into passing WTF.
ufonyx ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 14:52:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think the sister probably discouraged her from going to the doctor in the first place, and was trying to assuage her own guilt...
Then again, there are groups of people that isolate themselves from the rest of society. Maybe she really didn't know anything about the state of medicine!
guacamoleo ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:10:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaand now I'm probing my breasts in the break room at work.
ufonyx ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 18:20:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaand you'll probably get a lot of good samaritans offering to help.
guacamoleo ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 18:52:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good, the more people help, the less cancer I'll get!
ihaveacat92 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:00:16 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my SO are lying in bed watching tv and I'm browsing reddit
I just took my top and bra off and he got very interested
Sorry, fella just checking for lumps!
whatmonsters ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 14:38:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely the 40 year old woman had been told at some point in her life that lumps on breasts need to be checked out? I cannot believe that it never once crossed her mind. Damn.
ufonyx ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 14:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Despite what the sister said, I imagine they both knew about it, and were just in denial (and possibly uninsured). I had a neighbor who refused to go to doctors for anything at all - a persistent cough, throwing our her back, debilitating migraines - all out of fear that they'd say it was cancer. In her mind, if she didn't give anyone the opportunity to diagnose her, then she wouldn't get it.
whatmonsters ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 14:56:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really, really sad. I'm so glad I live in a country with free healthcare - it just boggles the mind that people are allowed to die in rich countries like America when they could be saved because they don't have insurance. Utter insanity.
incipit-satan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:07:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:'(
balasurr ยท 261 points ยท Posted at 02:53:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a patient who was concerned because she was still lactating, despite the fact that she stopped breastfeeding her twins two years ago. She said: "sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and find my husband sucking on the breasts. He says he's trying to drain the milk for me" I had to explain to her that breastfeeding her husband will lead to continued Lactation....
Rikolas ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 11:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Husband had been getting away with his weird kink for 2 years, impressive!
tinycherrypie ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 19:02:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that enough internet for today. Yes it is. Will I stop reading these comments? Nope, this is just... wow.
DocGerbill ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:27:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoah, mind blown
PirateJohn75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:34 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL...
shylil ยท 4904 points ยท Posted at 00:27:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a veterinarian, I had a 10 minute conversation with an owner explaining which side was the dog's left side.
two__sheds ยท 1781 points ยท Posted at 03:04:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked at a vet clinic when I was in high school. One day a vet came out of an exam room and asked me how to tell whether a puppy was a girl or a boy. Thinking it was a joke or a trick question, I said "You flip them over and look, right?" The vet sighed and walked away.
Apparently this client who fancied herself a breeder (multiple litters at this point, expensive breed) had asked dead seriously how you tell if a puppy is a boy or a girl.
rallyrotties ยท 687 points ยท Posted at 06:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a client that just because his puppy had nipples did not mean it was a girl.
[deleted] ยท 182 points ยท Posted at 06:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got nipples. Could you milk me?
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 07:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever drink Bailey's from a shoe?
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:50:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm old Greg.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:19:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wanna go to a club where people wee on each other?
Tyler11223344 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a MANGINA
SpecB_logna ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:19:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU CANT MILK THOSE!!
newxid22 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:59:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alistar pls
NovaKing23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:33:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can milk these tits
PandaLovingLion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't milk those tits
Your comment reminded me of this guy
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CAN YA MILK ME FAULKER
molly__hatchet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cats do not provide milk or wool or meat.
huntersniper007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
depends, are you a cow?
Trusesnuser ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 11:08:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We thought our cat was a girl for over a year and when we took him to the vet to ask about sterilization the vet gave us a wierd look and told us that mrs. kitty was a mr. kitty even though he had nipples.
two__sheds ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:08:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense, though. Cat penises are tiny. I watched a vet trying to put a catheter in once, and it wasn't easy.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:16:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The balls are clearly visible, though.
sheephoney ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:28:08 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be surprised. My cat had the tiniest balls ever when he was little (6-8 months) I suspect they would have grown a bit more but he didn't had the chance. Chopped them off. Still there have been quite a number of cats who's balls are the size of a nut.
CatnipCollective ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:03:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we got our first (male) kitten, I was enamored with it and spent hours watching it, petting it, checking its little paws, ears etc.
As I was petting his belly, I felt a few bumps. I pushed the silky fur away to see what these are. Terrified, I screamed at bf: OMG, come here, Kitty has a rash! He got there, saw the pink bumps on his belly and started laughing: Those are nipples!
I never had cats growing up, this was my first. Somehow I never put the fact that humans, apes etc both sexes have nipples, in relation to other mammals.
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:51:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, really? I know male humans have nipples (obviously) but I didn't know male dogs had nipples. I've had 3 dogs, 2 of them male and I never noticed.
UnMajstr ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 09:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most male mammals have, but few don't. Fun fact: Male horses don't have nipples. One of the reasons why some ancient tribes saw them as a super masculine animals and believed they represent masculinity.
Piorn ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 12:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And, you know, the huge horse dick...
chairitable ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:01:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the bulging muscles and strong grunts. Manly!
YeezusTaughtMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a magnum dong
-14k- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whoah! that blew my mind
courtoftheair ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mice don't either!
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither do male rats.
Because the GIANT rat nuts under the tail don't scream "I'M A BOY!"
Crystalinfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:53 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The crap (I think) I learn on reddit. I'm actually going to have to google that now...... Rats don't either...
wordsrworth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female horses don't have nipples either.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you think teats are, dude?
Teats/nipples/udders - they all serve the same purpose, but the outward appearance varies.
YankeeDoodleShelly ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 08:24:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, they are tiny, but they are there. Mammals, as a general rule, start development as female and sex is later determined and development of secondary sex characteristics end. All mammals have a mammary tract and both sexes will have nipples. If you've ever found a "skin tag" on your dog's belly, you found his nipple.
And to be vey fair, dog and cat nipples are small, even in females unless they've had a litter. My spayed female dog has tiny nipples but a bitch that has had a litter will usually have large, distended nipples.
CyberClawX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:47:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you had extra furry dogs, or maybe they were tiny dogs, but (male) dog nipples are quite easy to spot. For starters they have like 8...
Zepp_BR ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 09:42:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it were a man, you could have just pinched his nipples and yelled: "WHO IS A GIRL NOW, HUH?! WHO IS A GIRL NOW?!"
coolwool ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:14:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any other way to explain it? If so, I don't want to know about it!
TheStandardDeviant ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:12:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he not have nipples?
Tar_alcaran ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:11:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recall a woman on a vet show who had a cat with "Strange growth on the belly". Eight of them. In two rows of four...
Sam-Gunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:36:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. I hope they weren't cancerous! /s
schnadamschnandler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sir, do you have nipples?"
Brahms_third_racket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just assume that puppy's gender? :-(
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the client male or female?
MyDangus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many clients have you seen that have picked off a nipple thinking it was a tick?
RECOGNI7E ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a guy and I have nipples!
TopherMarlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain that to my nephew recently. But he's 8.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:50 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soooooo.... your client is male. Presumably he has nipples. Does your client think he's female also?? How did he do that??
Edit: wtf
wetwater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:41 on May 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A few years ago I adopted a cat from a rather shady rescue center. I got him home and put him in my bedroom and closed the door to keep my other cat out until I could start doing the introductions.
He's flopped out on my bed, looking around, and realized one eye is squinting slightly. Great, an eye infection, what else could possibly go wrong with this cat? I'm petting him and notice on his belly a red spot. Lovely, he has fleas or something. At this point I'm thinking of calling the shelter back and bitching that the cat is not healthy. I noticed he has a second red spot directly opposite of the first one. I looked at this for a moment, excused myself, went to Google, and typed in male cat nipples.
Now, I knew on some level that males have nipples. I'm male and I have a pair of my own. It never occurred to me that a male animal would have them. As it turns out, the fur on his lower belly was thin, so his nipples were visible.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 06:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have nipples? What type of helicopter did he identify as?
Strongbad717 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:12:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joke could be funny, but not in this context. 3/10
kikithemonkey ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 05:42:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can also tell when the dog wears a button up shirt or sweater. If the sweater's buttons are on the left, the dog is female. If the buttons are on the right, the dog is male.
Liberteez ยท 235 points ยท Posted at 05:53:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which side of the dog is left again?
inthyface ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 06:42:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just flip it over and look, duh.
PowerWisdom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:34:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2meta3fast
aneasymistake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:21:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The side with or without the buttons.
dankmernes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what about when they wear pants?
[deleted] ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 04:19:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Frugalfoodie ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 04:33:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rats and mice on the other hand....
DustyLance ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 05:36:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking rats have balls the size of their head
StinginPlatypus ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 05:58:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the rats that don't fuck?
thenimblybimbly ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 06:25:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balls are even bigger and a subtle cerulean blue.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heyyyy, you're the person that got a guitar pick stuck in their ass :D
StinginPlatypus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Each one is the size of their head! And they're sometimes hella pink and pointy looking.
Rusamithil ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 06:08:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to be clear to anyone confused, male rats and mice have huge balls.
Frugalfoodie ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 07:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact- mice have the largest testicle to body mass ratio of any mammal.
TheBoni ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 07:10:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You never met my Uncle Vito...
earthlybeets ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:37:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm.
Not my picture, but I do work with mice.
LifeIsBadMagic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:25:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They should have yuge balls.
khalfrodo34 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:39:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's guinea pigs.
meanderling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very young (17-21 day old--young weaning age) white mice can be difficult to determine sex.
ccm596 ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 04:34:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems like you're not around dogs much? The primary way is the same as a human. Male dogs have visible penises, while female dogs--it's a little harder to see their vaginas, but they don't have penises. If someone had been around dogs as much as a breeder would, or even just a dog owner, it'd be as easy to tell what gender a dog is as it would if they had pulled down the vet's pants to see which they were.
ToiletKitty ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 07:32:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulva, you see their vulva; if you are looking at the vagina, there's something very wrong.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:12:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, if you're a fucked up person who needs help, very right.
ImOverThereNow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dogs vulva is HUGE! To top it off she's tiny.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:27:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, cats and dogs are obvious. I mean, either you see a danglin' Jasper, or you don't see much more than perhaps a line in the fur.
chuchubox ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:50:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cats are actually rather difficult to tell for the average person! I didn't realize this until I took home a kitten off the street and had to look up how to tell. Then I took it to the vet and turns out I still had it wrong!
Antiochia ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:14:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually with new born kittens, that are as big as mice, it is not that easy. They all have a furry bump, and that's it. Had a kitten litter of three, and needed to re - sex one of them after a week.
EpitomyofShyness ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We caught a quartet of kittens out of our neighbors back yard (they were using a hollow metal pole that was lying on the ground as their hiding spot, a hand on each end solved the issue). Initially we thought they were all boys, but after a few weeks of raising them I was giving them all baths and went to inform mom that either Apollo and Keiran has a serious medical condition, or they were girls, cause unlike Kiho and Simon they didn't have balls.
FredTheBarber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My housemate brought home a kitten that everyone, even the vet, determined was female. As it grew though, I kept feeling like it was a boy. His face was somehow distinctly masculine. Sure enough when my housemate took him to get spayed, they stumbled upon his undescended testicles instead. Still kept the name Ophelia though. Even the vets get it wrong sometimes!
kissalvoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cats are easy, especially as babies. Boy rear ends look like this : Girl rear ends look like this ;
You can literally see the SLIT in a girl.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... even with a "fixed" one, either you'd see a little penis, or you wouldn't! Maybe it's that I've grown up with cats that like 360 cuddles, so you end up with their botties in your face, but I mean... how couldn't you?
chuchubox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just that it's very well hidden on a cat! It doesn't hang down like a male dog and it's not close to the belly like a dog either. As a kid I only had male cats and always wondered where it was hiding haha! Now I have female cats and I've since realized there is a difference but once again, it's very subtle. This is especially true for cats with medium or longer fur.
Smiliviola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I adopted a pair of kittens out of my backyard. One of the brothers had very obvious testicles, so we assumed the other one was a girl. Took them to the vet, were told he was a boy, took him to a second vet later and that vet thought he was a girl for a minute before we told him it was a boy. The vet poked him in the nuts and they popped right out, but they can definitely be subtle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've looked it up, and it does look more complicated than I imagined. It's quite obvious on dogs, though.
I usually have good confidence about the gender of a cat or dog just by looking at it, seeing how it acts and moves, and just how it looks. I don't know. I feel like I'm often right about it. It's like I see a dimorphism as pronounced as the human one, but in these creatures, as well. I've always been aorund animals, though, so maybe that's it?
whittiez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:04:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes it's hard to tell with longhaired cats though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just brush it to the side? I mean, they have to be able to get it out for weeing and mating, purely biologically, so it shouldn't be too hard.
YankeeDoodleShelly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:29:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The penis doesn't leave the prepuce during urination. And as someone who has seen a LOT of cat dicks, they are super small.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha. Yankee and cat dicks, sitting in a tree!
Anyway, I looked it up, and while it's not as obvious as with dogs, or humans, for that matter, it is fairly distinct.
TaffyGoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cats have their penises tucked away and have a very minimal sheath. Which is fine, because the tom here was unused to being pet and I happened to find the spot on the back of his neck he really likes...and he took it as an indication that my arm was his to hump with his horrible little pointy dick.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read my replies to the other comments. I know. I've looked it up. Geez! Why so passionate about cat dick?!
TaffyGoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:48 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I saw them after. Sorry buddy.
YankeeDoodleShelly ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Truth! Until I went to vet tech school, I had no idea how to figure out if a cat was a boy or girl, especially if they were wee babies. Now I judge by perianal length and can even spot testes in neonates. And even then, there are some kittens with ambiguous genitals.
ccm596 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just looked at my female Pomeranian, barely even a line. But no red rocket
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it seems cats are fairly subtle.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless it's a female spotted hyena, which has a pseudo-penis which it also gives birth out of.
Fe male for the win, yo!
Things aren't always as black and white as they seem :p
ccm596 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, fair enough. I think its safe to say that's not what the breeder in the top comment is breeding though :P
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prob'ly not, otherwise the questions would have been all kinds of hilarious hahaha
curiousiah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know there is a master profession that sexes chickens? It's difficult to determine whether a chick is a boy or a girl due to the size of their corresponding parts, which is important because males are sent to be used for their meat and females are sent to eggs/breeding. Masters take on apprentices and set them up with two chutes. The apprentice looks at the chick's nether regions and sends it down either the boy or girl chute, then the master tells them whether they were correct. Slowly, they learn the ability to quickly and accurately determine which sex a chicken is.
Waynerswords ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's very easy with dogs. They either have a penis in the middle of their belly or they don't.
Davecasa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:59:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cats are hard to tell, especially when they're young. Male dogs have a big ol' penis, and females have a vagina.
TobiDaDog ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know some people that think that size determines if its a boy or girl. Had a girl puppy with some very...large privates. My mother insisted that she was a boy because 'it's too big to be a girl'. I've met more people than I can count on one hand that think that. It's sad.
pete904ni ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a read on r/justnomil to see the number of people who believe they can tell the gender of a human baby from the sex position used or cravings the mum is having
MisterDonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The can get rather... plump.
Dekronos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife was the same with our dog
say592 ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 05:49:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dog breeder is a bullshit job. Anyone can leave two dogs alone together and let them fuck. Anyone who calls themselves a breeder and doesn't have other credentials (history showing dogs, recognition and reputation in their breed's club, access to desirable lineage, etc) is just that, someone who occasionally watches their dogs fuck.
Dave_the_Jew ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 05:54:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welp, looks like I'm a dog breeder
potato1sgood ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 06:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it count if I do that through my computer screen?
-14k- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:16:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean "whelp"
MisterDonkey ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too
PM_US_YOUR_STRUGGLES ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 06:00:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, while I do understand the sentiment, I think you're underestimating a bit how much it really takes to take proper care of multiple dogs at once. It's easy to let dogs fuck, but to have them fuck and still maintain them in a clean area, making sure each of them AND the resulting litter is well-fed and healthy? Seems like a bit of a different ballpark, especially with the larger breeds.
Then again, I say that as someone who has zero personal experience with breeding dogs, so take my comment for what you will.
~Blade
[deleted] ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 06:33:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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The_Lupercal ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:41:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's this old codger on /r/canada who signs all his posts. He signs them the same name as his username. It drives me fucking crazy everytime I see this. I hate him more than I've hated anybody ever.
LiquidSilver ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:33:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear The_Lupercal,
I'm sorry you feel this way. I'm just trying to be polite, like I've been taught. I hoped it would help with the negativity on the internet. I'll try to do it less when you're around.
Regards,
LiquidSilver
PS: Some fora have an explicit rule against this. Posts aren't letters that take days to arrive. The speed of online communication is closer to that of a normal conversation and it should be treated as such.
The_Lupercal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I was just over exaggerating. And it wasnt even directed at you. It was jim_in_toronto or something. Dont change a thing!
LiquidSilver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just pretending for karma. I never do that. I've never even been to Canada.
PM_US_YOUR_STRUGGLES ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 06:48:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed! Account is shared with my SO, hence the "us" in the username. :P
~Blade
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:12:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Boba_F37T ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a trap, only one person with split personality.,
PM_US_YOUR_STRUGGLES ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:38:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm too lazy, so I watch him type for me.
~Dark
In all seriousness, it's out of a lack of a reason to have separate accounts, really. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ No real reason in particular. We share a lot already.
~Blade
random352486 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 08:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dark and Blade? Am I 14 again and this is Runescape?
PM_US_YOUR_STRUGGLES ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 08:20:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope! We're just cancer.
~Blade
RudolphMorphi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:43:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its not like its difficult to create a new account though. And they're free.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PM_US_YOUR_STRUGGLES ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, those are just our screen names for online use, we like to stay relatively anonymous online. And we don't share a device, no, but the both of us see it as not that big a deal to sign our posts. And, hey, as a plus, it's a conversation starter for those who are curious, eh?
~Blade
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PM_US_YOUR_STRUGGLES ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, not a troll, we've just got our own way of doing things. :P Everyone's different, I suppose. It's the internet, my chances of doing something that bothers someone is already pretty high even without the signature (and even without my tendency to joke and troll from time to time as well). And I apologize if it bugs you a bit, but, with the sheer size of reddit and how many users go on each day, it's fairly unlikely you'll see my comments overly often, to be entirely honest. We include small markings at the end of our messages, and we comment with the intent to discuss about the content of the message. Whether or not people pay attention to the content of our message and instead focus on the tiny signature at the bottom is a different matter, and I'd like to think that people who care enough about discussion will look at the content.
TL;DR Sorry to have bothered you, but it's just the way we personally do things. And if we ever encounter each other again, hope it doesn't bug you that much.
Edit: slight formatting.
~Blade
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:31:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had second-hand experience with it. There is a lot to it. The paperwork, making sure the puppies and the big doggos are healthy, feeding them, making sure they're happy, getting them vaccinated... doggos are a lot of work.
TheAllDayThrowAway_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure it's work to take care of living creatures. But that's all kind of the bare minimum of just living life. But doing all of that doesn't make up for 8 years of higher education. It may make you an expert at breed standards or something equally trivial, but not treating zoonotic disease, bacterial infections, or even vaccine schedules. Some of that stuff can certainly be learned on the internet, or at least the basics. But it's the attitude that comes with some breeders who think putting a boy dog and a girl dog together is a shortcut around an advanced degree. You know how Reddit is always rolling its collective eyes at, "As a mother..."? Vets do the same thing when someone says, "as a breeder..."
YankeeDoodleShelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Preach!!!! I worked for this shitty private practice. The doctor and his girlfriend fancied themselves "breeders" of a beautiful Northern breed and they had a lot of "breeders" come to them for veterinary care. I heard so much bullshit about breeds not being tolerant to vaccines (Berners don't need to be vaccinated as often? And yet, bordetella ran rampant in their kennels and they had an outbreak of parvo AND lepto...) as well as other bullshit. All of this was influenced by their breeder friends. I started to hate breeders after working with them.
rain-glazed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's their point. Tons of people just buy two random (probably low-quality) purebreds and breed them/sell puppies for money with no sense of breeding ethics.
The term "breeder" should really imply someone who is very careful and selective about the lineages they are building so as to better define a particular breed. This usually goes in hand with showing, close ties to the breed association, high-quality animals etc like they said.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you have to watch them fuck to be a breeder? I'd probs give them some privacy for the bing bang
Edit: Before I sell their offspring.
Isoldael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a (hobbyist) snake breeder, I do watch until I see a succesful lock. After that I'll give them all the privacy they need, butknowing if they did the deed is quite important for breeding purposes. If the male doesn't feel like it for some reason, I might reintroduce them later, or perhaps use a different male.
two__sheds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's what this woman was. Purebred Pulis, just left them alone unfixed and called herself a breeder. I don't even know how the poor dogs even mated, because the idiot woman was too lazy to cord their hair properly so they were basically one giant tangle. They were fed and properly vaccinated, so there was nothing we could really do about it.
wetwater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:09 on May 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A coworker did exactly that: let the dogs fuck. I forget exactly what breed, but it was one of those annoying little rat dogs that was really popular about 15 years ago. She went to the pet store, bought two dogs, and let them fuck their yappy little brains out. I forgot how many litters she would up with before she realized she isn't selling as many as she thought she would, so she dropped them all off at the animal shelter.
I haven't really spoken to her since then.
ADGHill22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:47:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother works as a vet tech. He told me they used to have a High Schooler working with them to since she was interested in being a vet.
She was on the phone with someone and as he walked into the room he heard the girl say "I don't know, let me ask". She then asked my brother "Is there any way we can make a girl dog into a boy dog?". My brother told her there wasn't. She then asked "what about the other way, boy into a girl?" Again he told her there wasn't.
The girl then got back on the phone and informed who ever she was talking to that she was sorry and unfortunately they didn't do animal gender reassignment.
Sovieto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i dont understand your story. why did the vet have to ask you for the question on behalf of the client? and why did they reply with a sigh?
two__sheds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They asked me because I was not a trained professional. They sighed because an idiot high school kid was instantly able to come up with the answer that a dog "breeder" couldn't.
Sovieto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
got it
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you give a food to a puppy if she eats it a girl if he eats it's a boy :)
saitosenpai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:21:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so baffled by how I cannot understand this story. The vet sighed and walk away, who is the client? why did the vet sighed?, why does it matter if the client is a breeder?
two__sheds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The vet asked me because I was not trained in anything (not a vet tech, not a vet) to make sure the question was, indeed, stupid.
The client being a breeder matters, because if you can't do so much as identify the sex of a puppy (which is easy, let's face it - penis if a boy, no penis if a girl) you have no business calling yourself a breeder. Breeding dogs means being able to take proper care of not only mom and dad, but the pups for the first little while. If you can't tell if a pup is a boy or a girl (common sense) then how the hell are you supposed to be able to tell if they're healthy or not?
Andrea4328 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vet tech here. Had a nonclient bring Fluffy in for vomiting on emergency hours. The lady told me the cat was female, so I trusted her. Lifted the tail to get a temp...Fluffy had some pretty fluffy man bits. I tell the owner and she said "are you sure she's a boy? She doesn't have a penis hanging down!"
two__sheds ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:09 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just made me picture a cat with a big floppy dong. That has to be the best final thought for the day that I've ever experienced.
Andrea4328 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:23 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to help! I really don't know how some people get through life
rafaelninja13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:54 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why just anyone shouldn't be able to breed animals.
patentolog1st ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:49:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just assume that dog's gender?!
skipdip2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:52:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No?
queeraspie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:35:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha let's shit on a group that has an extremely high suicide rate. That really makes you look cool and funny.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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queeraspie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The asshole in question is very much making fun of transgender people, but if you want to be associated with that kind of behaviour just so you can take shots at some activists, that's your business.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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queeraspie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He thinks that being transgender is a mental illness. He said so quite openly. I feel that people who make jokes like this are the ones trivializing and undermining the work we're doing just to survive, so you'll have to forgive me for thinking you're a jerk for doing so.
patentolog1st ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:02:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe in enabling the normalization of mental illness.
queeraspie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing being transgender isn't a mental illness then.
patentolog1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it is. But it's easy to cure.
queeraspie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Provide scientific proof.
patentolog1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask Johns Hopkins. Sleeping pills are your best bet, BTW.
queeraspie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you don't have any proof. I'm terribly sorry about your inability to accept yourself.
patentolog1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fine, thanks. You seem to be the mentally ill one who wants to force everyone else to cater to your insanity.
Anyway, blocked so I don't have to deal with your shit any more.
two__sheds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, this patentolog1st person is fucked.
queeraspie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He seems pretty average for this site, unfortunately.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just assume that creature's genus?!
MBoTechno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does he look like a bitch?
afrothunder7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dog has huge balls. I hope that means he's a boy
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never tried with puppies, but have you ever tried to tell if a kitten is a boy or girl? Fucking impossible.
MadDany94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing the little mound (For the girl) and the tiny penis looked the same for her. Well. They are both in completely different positions. But I guess she never made the connection.
tilman2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC, when they're first born the distance between the two "holes" gives away the gender?
EDIT: That's kittens, not puppies!
FifiIsBored ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a moment I thought you had to tell the vet how to tell the difference. I'm so glad (an somehow not glad) it was the client.
imghurrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever one of my clients tells me about their breeders advice (which is a lot), I tell them that breeders make their living by watching dogs fuck and don't know anything about medicine. It normally gets through to them.
eseka0cho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just assume my dog's gender?
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
male puppies have TWO tails...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean she was too cheap to get them spayed/neutered and just let them fuck like doggos do. Any good breeder has at least a highschooler's grasp on anatomy and evolutionary biology. This lady was just dumb and lazy.
EmeraldSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a pet store, we have customer's who after we show them a puppy, and tell them it's a girl will question us. Why? Because they see the dogs vagina and automatically think that's a penis and we are stupid.
Hate people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it. Why'd they sigh and walk away? You gave the correct answer.
PaulsRedditUsername ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 03:25:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it was a really ugly dog. Hard to tell which end is the front.
Atario ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:32:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the Dicknose Terrier
EatAtGrizzlebees ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 05:29:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a vet tech for 8 years. One of our clients who was probably one of the dumbest people I've ever met got a new cat, a female. We were about to give her her vaccinations, but the doc had to step out for a sec. The kitty rolled onto her back and the lady points to the cats nipples and asks what they are. And I tell her they are nipples. Then she asks, "Is that where the kittens come from?" I think the doc came back in shortly after that and i let him take it from there because honestly, I was so wtf lady?!
NettleGnome ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Much like the human baby, kittens appear as fruiting nipples. The Papa cat will fertilise the nipple with his cat juice and a few weeks later the nipples will swell into the shape of a kitten on each. After about a month it will dislodge and you'll have six new cat babies and a set of new nipples will start blooming upon the chest of the Mama cat.
moonra_zk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:39:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's obviously why dogs and other mammals can have 5, 6 puppies at once but humans can only have two.
courtoftheair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:12:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, there does seem to be a general 1:2 ratio of babies to nipples with most animals.
Freiling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:25:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am so glad I subscribed to CATFACTS
sillygoofysexy ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:07:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a tech, I had a 30 minute conversation about what an oral medication was. At the end, the best thing for the cat was a transdermal, but there was no way she was going to understand that. Cat died 8 months later, because she couldn't understand how to give any medication.
serenity013 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me so sad. As someone with no medical training but who had a dog with both megaesophagus and cancer for three years I learned quite a bit about giving medications... because that's what you do.
Glaug-Eldare ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:47:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Megasophagus sounds like something you'd put a really big Egyptian in after he died
serenity013 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:40:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha it does sound like that.
Actually it meant her esophagus stretched out all of a sudden so that the muscles that push the food down don't work (cause unknown) She had to eat upright and use gravity to get food down and couldn't drink water.
Freiling ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:26:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor Colby.
Glaug-Eldare ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:53:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for cause unknown. I told you. We set down there on company orders to get this thing, which destroyed my crew. And your expensive dog.
EDIT: Well, I thought it was funny.
sillygoofysexy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. This old bitch was so ignorant and her kids, who were in their 20s, asked me questions that an 8 year old would ask. Seemed to me that they were all products of incest, the only way I could explain how unbelievably stupid they were
starkwar ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:26:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awful. Poor thing.
YankeeDoodleShelly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, when I first became a technician, I would roll my eyes when my doctors would write "Give 1 tablet by mouth twice a day for 7 days" because where else would that tablet go? Boy, did I have a nasty wake up call...
Dirty_Robot_Love ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:32:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a lady try to decline vax because she didn't want her cat to "catch autism"
YankeeDoodleShelly ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could be shocked at this, but I heard it too.
Raya_Aroukii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, it's spreading! D:
Music_Lady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly it's not an uncommon thing to hear. Common sense is not common!
disposable-name ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:33:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"But what if the dog's facing you?"
TheFrostMizer ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:23:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I read that as vegetarian and was beyond confused until I reread lmao
SavvySillybug ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:17:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but if you look at the dog from this side, the tail is left??
missy_m00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And how would it wear pants?
DanielagainDaniel ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:03:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"if a dog were to wear pants, would it be like this? Or this?"
telfoid ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:30:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it stage left or house left?
experts_never_lie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:47:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it might be dog left.
telfoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
suckfail ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well?? Which side was it?
TrojanTapier ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:07:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trick question, I can see why the client was confused. Really, it differs depending on the breed.
Iguessimonredditnow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:06:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah, but when I pet him with my left hand it's on /this/ side"
JackassiddyRN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My left or your left?
Synnful_me ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:28:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geeze dude I must be more tired than I thought..
I straight up read that as a vegetarian and I couldn't figure out for the life of me why that had anything to do withit. Took me reading it 5 times to see what you really wrote.
LuckyShake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the first answer that made me laugh out loud. Thank you. I needed that.
Sketters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yesterday I had a client ask me, swear to god, if there was any downside to a brother and sister breeding.
beeyonca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha i don't get how they don't get it.
NeedingVsGetting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So many of these are people not understanding anatomy. But this? I just... Dramatically exits stage left
superdirt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow.
How did you explain it?
kuhndawg8888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its like a car, right? driver's side, passenger's side?
fakeittillyoubakeit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having it drag out for 10 minutes was really your fault to be honest. Just agree with them once you find out what side the issue is on and move on. This works in technical support as well.
iselfdstruct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm way to tired...I read this a second time because I couldn't figure out why a vegetarian was arguing.
seehadreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... Which side is it?
aedismith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read that as vegetarian the first time.. was really concerned
Hedo_Turkoglu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had to explain to a woman aged in her 40's why her dogs were "stuck together" if you know what I mean....
dem_bond_angles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one finally made me laugh. I needed it. Thanks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always ask my vet "driver or passenger side?"
RitoPancaketree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you all alright? No you are all left!
not-a-tapir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having fostered several kittens now, I still don't understand how my mum and step-dad thought the kitten we got when I was about 6 was a boy. Of the three males I've cared for, one had balls, one had a single ball and one had bumps at 8 weeks. Surely the lack of presence of any of these should have tipped them off.
Obviously, you should get male cats neutered as well and that would have solved the problem of finding out our kitten was a girl via her getting pregnant. I put their ignorance down to them not really thinking about it and the fact that the only vet nearby was just the worst human being, let alone vet. I don't really blaming them for not trusting a man who put on his records that my sister's rabbit was a guinea pig. I also had a very sick rabbit who was suffering from these big, oozing sores all over his body, this vet just grabbed him and started plucking huge chunks of fur out, leaving the poor wee guy bleeding profusely and clearly in shock. He never actually diagnosed the problem or addressed my rabbit's myriad of other health problems. Poor chap died a few weeks later. This wasn't even that long ago, 1996 or 1997.
pipsdontsqueak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously it's the strong side.
Wilzyxcheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I missing something? You had to explain left and right to a competent adult?
Orthonut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a vet student, I once had to explain to a client that when I said (and provided easy to follow written plan) to take Fluffy on walks 3x/day starting at 15 mins each and adding 1 min to each walk every other day that I intended, in fact, for their morbidly obese dog to walk not ride in a stroller whilst the owner pushed him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He still thinks you are the idiot.
Frickin Dr. Dolittle thinks dog knows left and right
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddammit. This wins.
Babycarrot_hammock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what about when it catches its tail? I mean, there's no left side of a doghnut.
marleabres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"But it's different in dogs!!"
Kignak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once had a guy who thought that his dogs nipples were tumors, because boy dogs couldn't have nipples.
BenevolentDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avoid confusion... use "driver and passenger" rather than "left and right".
rubermnkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which side of a dog is hairiest?
The outside๐
YankeeDoodleShelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always have to mentally make sure I am noting the correct side or putting the leads on correctly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
im pretty sure that the dog's left side is to the left.
KassellTheArgonian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but directions are only relative, when you face forward your left is left but when you turn around your left is now your right and vice versa
Cr3s3ndO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet that left you amazed.....
macgruder1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's parents adopted their first dog ever and picked the wrong one from the litter and brought it home thinking it was a boy until their daughter explained that it had no penis and was a girl. They though my the genitalia was hidden inside the body.
TalosGuideMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two people can't have the same left dude, that doesn't make sense
Music_Lady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UGGGGHH this is a daily occurrence in my life. I feel your pain.
NoDoThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are lots of amusing stories in this thread, but that's the first one to make me lol. Was the owner's name Kevin?
ChillSloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but relative to what end? I can see this being confusing.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"My left, your left, or his left?"
arghvark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"One of the front ones..."
JSizzleSlice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No! look! dude... the DOG'S left."
Wubbalubbadubbitydo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at an animal shelter and once worked with a girl who thought a male cat was a female because it had nipples.
cloud_watcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:13 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't this weird? I'm a vet, too. It seems like narcissism to me. "Put this in the left eye." "Whose left?" "Your dog's left! It's HIS eye, not yours."
chauntikleer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:38 on January 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my vets referred to driver side and passenger side. Perhaps a similar patient gave them the idea.
BlueSonia13 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:44:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BEST COMMENT
skootch_ginalola ยท 754 points ยท Posted at 02:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical Assistant to a cataract surgeon here.
If you fucking sleep in your contact lenses long enough, they will fuse to your eyes and will need surgery to have them removed. Yes, you can go blind from this. For the love of God, don't sleep in your contact lenses.
adevilnguyen ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 09:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to my brother... he slept with them for 9 weeks, never taking them out. He had to have them surgically removed and wear an eye patch for like ever.
drippingthighs ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:49:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just took mine out. i probably had mine in for 50 wks :(
Arianfelou ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:31:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...just one eye patch?
adevilnguyen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes, only 1 eye was super infected. i think he wore 2 for a day or 2 but wore the 1 for months.
miajunior ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 03:36:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never worn contact and have just realized what you described is a huge fear of mine
JustVan ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 05:21:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who once accidentally fell asleep with my contacts in and woke up feeling like my eyes were glued to plastic (which I guess they basically were), I can't comprehend how people can make a habit of this. It feels SO AWFUL and your eyes don't feel rested at all because they're so oxygen starved, ughsoiruhi4w5jrth.
Angerman5000 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:44:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, these days they have a lot of soft lenses that are way better/safer to sleep in. The kind I have now let more oxygen through supposedly, which helps prevent that kind of effect.
Anecdotally, the rare occasions where I've left them in on accident my eyes don't feel like death the next day. Usually just a little dry for a while, then they're fine. My old contacts felt like I was pulling off part of my eye if I slept in them, it was awful. And hell, maybe I was, from the sounds of things. O.o
queefiest ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then ending of your comment reminds me of when my toddler gets ahold of my phone.
MyFirstOtherAccount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just made my eyes water >_<
queefiest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:46:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto, I just don't like putting things in my eyes. I've tried multiple times to get contacts and every time I left embarrassed because I couldn't get the contact in without help. I think I got one in, then I couldn't get it back out and had an anxiety attack. Fuck contacts.
zerbey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, unless you're actively trying or just plain stupid it's very hard to do this by accident.
serefina ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:24:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just thought they irritated your eyes. That was enough for me not to want to wear them. They fuse to your eyeballs?! =/
rodery ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 10:34:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you leave them in for a long-ish period of time. I've only ever worn dailies, but believe me, after wearing them for 12-14 hours, you definitely wouldn't want to sleep in them. Don't understand how/why people do these kind of things.
Delphizer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking form experience when I was young I would wear contacts for months without taking them out. Didn't hurt wasn't dry or anything. Yearly doctors appointments and every time eyes were perfectly healthy.
Finally maybe like 5-7 years of this my opto asked if I was wearing them more than I should as it looked like I was starting to get whatever "veiny eyeball" lack of oxygen w/e w/e. I told him that I never take them out and haven't ever and he was baffled how it hadn't started much earlier.
Anyway, I cut it out and it hasn't progressed at all in about 7 years..soo lucky me I guess?
HighlandSquirrel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:02 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very much the same as you; have slept for years with them in and have always had healthy eyes at every appointment up until a few weeks ago when I noticed my left eye wasn't seeing so strongly anymore. When I went in for my second round of tests, they found that my right eye was dulling in strength now too. Long story short, they still don't know what's caused/causing it but next appt they're going to look at corneal oedemas (fluid trapped between layers of the cornea)
rodery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, I'm glad it worked out!
lilac_blaire ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother occasionally does it because it's easier than putting them in again the next morning if we are camping/travelling or he isn't getting a lot of sleep and will have dry eyes from being tired.
I personally can't wait to get mine out at the end of a day so I don't understand this at all, but he really hates his glasses.
rodery ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:28:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know several people that leave them in 'accidentally' if they've been out for the night and regret it a lot in the morning. But still end up doing it.
I totally agree with you, I can't understand it. But I suppose if you get used to it, you'll keep doing it.
Hunny_Bunny20 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had monthlies but since I would wear them at the least 12 hours a day because of my long daily schedule I got a double eye infection. Couldn't go anywhere for about a week because I couldn't see. Then she switched me to dailies and I love them! I love the fresh feeling every time instead of struggling with the monthly.
rodery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:09:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never tried monthlies (only wear contacts on very rare occassions) but I'm convinced I'd manage to fuck them up somehow haha. Sorry to hear about the double eye infection, but glad the dailies are working out for you!
Hunny_Bunny20 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! Don't even bother with monthlies they are a pain because you have to make sure they are always clean in a case. Buy solution for the contacts and what not. Just easier to have dailies.
rodery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:16 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah for sure!
MyLettuce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've kept mine on for months at a time. I may be stupid. I dont do that anymore. Never bothered me though
rodery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:07:38 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad that you don't do it anymore, and that nothing bad happened.
Hunny_Bunny20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My doctor always told me that if I don't then I have a huge risk of eye infection. I always took them out and I didn't understand why other people wouldn't either.
serefina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't trust myself not to accidentally fall asleep with them in, so I've never worn them.
Hunny_Bunny20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've accidentally fallen asleep with them a few times but then I just take them out as soon as I realize it. I never sleep with them on purpose.
andygchicago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:29 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't actually "Fuse." It's more like a tongue touching a frozen pole. They stick badly.
scarletnightingale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:56 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do something like that long enough and you can go blind.
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/girl-left-her-contacts-6-months-and-amoebas-ate-her-eyeballs/
xgravity23 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 10:56:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a teenager and in college, I left my monthlies in for months at a time. I always used eye drops in the morning (okay, it was saline solution), and I never had any problems. I told my optometrist after about 2 years of doing this and he was all doom and gloom, but:
I knew this was risky, because when I was oh maybe 12 or 13, my mom ripped a bit of her cornea off after leaving her contacts in during international travel and then trying to take them out without moisturizing them first. That was my take-away from my mom's experience: if you leave your contacts in too long, wet them first before you try to take them out, maybe even give the drops a few minutes to soak if my eyes feel extra dry. Served me well.
Now I pay for my own health insurance, so you can bet I take those puppies out every night, just in case I used up all my good eye luck already.
Lord_Iggy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 12:15:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to overwear my contacts. I took them out at night, but I kept my monthlies around for several months, rather than replacing them, because I didn't feel anything wrong about them. My optometrist found that I had the beginnings of corneal neovascularization, which spooked me pretty badly, so I switched back to wearing glasses.
xgravity23 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:34:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes, that would do the same to me! Except my doc always said my eyes looked fine this time, very ominously every time.
IsBothTunaAndChicken ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:47:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a roommate that used to sleep in hers for weeks at a time. She got 2 eye infections within the year that we lived together. No fusing though, so that's a plus!
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never got eye infections either, not one in all those years!
HappyBroody ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:56:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ
batterycrayon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:08:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The kind I have are supposed to be safe to sleep in for 14 days. It still feels bad to sleep even one night, even one NAP. That doesn't change the fact that I'm a serial offender though :( But never two days in a row
elpaisita1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:27:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not cataracts but you might know; my eyes are a -6.0 blind whats the most fucked up your eyes can be before lasik can't fix everything. Also, any tips on helping protect my eyesight? 18 and pretty fucking blind :(
sorakoi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had PRK in my late 20's, my eyes were -8.25. Like, hold a book up a hand-width from my face to read it blind. You'll have to wait until your prescription stabilizes before they'll do it, though, usually in your mid-20's.
jerk40 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had Lasik with -9.5, better than 20/20 now
elpaisita1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you :) it'll probably take me quite a few years to be able to put off the extra money but at least now i'm confident that once my prescription stabilizes I can get that done. btw were there any side effects or anyone had a bad experience?
BeyondTheFail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking from the main assistant for a LASIK surgeon's standpoint, the biggest side effects I've seen are being more prone to dry eyes (dryness tends to effect someone more when they have less cornea to work with) and prescription drift.
You're at a -6.00 approximately, so you're probably more likely to be a candidate for PRK (instead of the flap, they just remove the top layer so you can get the laser in to reshape). The recovery time is a little greater for PRK (a week for PRK vs a day for LASIK), and they'll put on a special bandage contact lens for a week while your cornea is healing. However, PRK's benefits over LASIK are that it's overall safer for the eyes, is good for people with underlying dry eye, and is less likely to drift afterwards.
elpaisita1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I already have naturally drying eyes will it be a big issue and most importantly from your customers standpoints is it worth it? Also since no insurance what's the best/easiest way to get it cheap without going down south to get it haha.
BeyondTheFail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Price around, see what you think, also ask what they provide with the procedure (some offices provide drops, some don't, some have a period of "enhancement" or touch up free of charge). I haven't heard a patient that's been disappointed that they've had it so far.
Personally, and I'm about a -5.25, I have considered the options and don't think it's the right choice for me. I've been in glasses since age 8, and I don't like how my face looks without glasses very well.
Some things to keep in mind, once you hit your 40s, your near vision is going to start going, so, to get the most out of it, you'll want to have it done younger. If you're in your 40s, you will probably want to discuss with your surgeon the option for blended vision or monovision (they're synonyms, but it can get confusing), or having one eye set at distance, one at near. It's not perfect, but it's a good middle ground, and the brain tends to adapt pretty well. A good surgeon, if you want to consider this option, will have you try it out first before you have surgery to avoid having the need for an enhancement later (basically, a touch-up of your LASIK/PRK).
Also, you will eventually get cataracts, it's inevitable. If you can get a copy of your topography readings and stow them away, that'll be helpful for your eventual cataract surgeon, unless future medicine finds a better way to deal with them.
jerk40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, when I'm driving at night, I completely regret it. The light halos are bad and it makes for difficult driving - lots of concentration which leads to headaches. Other than that, it's great!
Octopus_Tetris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think you're blind? Minus 9.5 (last time i checked 3 yrs ago) here.
elpaisita1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:05:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a contest, but jesus dude.
Octopus_Tetris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man. With no correction everything starts being blurry like 5 cm (2 in) from my face. So I literally need to have my nose in the book to read.
jerk40 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-9.5 here too. Had Lasik - 20/20 now :)
Octopus_Tetris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice, man. How was the op?
jerk40 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:21:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not too bad. Went pretty quick, the next hour or two was hell. Felt like someone rubbing sandpaper on your eye balls but then the meds kicked in and it's been good. The only issue is seeing at night. The halos are bad.
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's many times of eye surgery, and there are laser surgeries that are not Lasik. Also, not all ophthalmologists are trained in the same surgeries. When was your last eye appointment?
Tips to help your eyes: If you wear glasses and contact lenses, rotate them so you're not always relying on one, don't watch TV or use a laptop in a dark room (have an overhead light on or a desk light pointed at what you're looking at), if you work at a computer station or a job where you "stare" at something for awhile, take eye breaks (look out the window at the scenery for a few minutes, look at the wall, the floor, turn and talk to a friend), use sunscreen around your eyes, use sunglasses or wear a hat in sunny weather, if you're female make sure to use soap and water every night to take off your eye makeup and never sleep in it.
Tartaras1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:04:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention it hurts like a son of a bitch to try and take them out. I might accidentally fall asleep in them, but never for a full night.
imilla ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:52:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i didn't know this and will never go to sleep in contacts again
TARDISandFirebolt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:44:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't just happen overnight. They may stick a little just from being dry, but fusing to your eyeball is going to take at least a week.
Distainfulinsomnia ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:30:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It actually depends on the brand you are using. Some are okay for over night were. I can sleep in mine for up to 2 weeks (I can go longer if I feel lazy with no down sides).
The horror story is most likely caused from months of leaving them in past due, and not using any eye drops.
ChocolateSnowflake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:23:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel asleep with my contacts in once and woke up, still groggy, and was so excited because I could SEE!! I could see perfectly well.
Then I woke up fully and was so disappointed I actually cried.
Djinjja-Ninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend (luckily who didn't wear contacts) actually genuinely though that the 24 hour disposable contacts were dissolvable and all you did is left them in, went to bed, then woke up the next day and put the next pair in...
Multiple people tried to convince him that this is insane, but he still went on believing it.
He was in his mid 20's at the time.
Slightly related, my mother used to wear old school hard (also possibly non permeable I think) contact lenses (she has worn contacts as long as I can remember). Over the years it actually changed the shape of her eyes.
Nubalox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And people ask me why I sill wear glasses.
joybuzz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean if they fuse to your eyes you get permanent 20/20 vision eh? Stupid doctors not thinkin outside the box.
iteriwarren ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who brags and brags about how she never takes her contacts out and scoffs at me because I say I can't stand to sleep in them and take mine out nightly. Same friend suffers from migraines and never sleeps well. Coincidence??
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please beg your friend to get her eyes looked at. It's really not a joke and she can have life long bacterial issues from doing this. Get her to see an eye doctor ASAP.
iteriwarren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She goes regularly to an eye Dr and they don't ever say anything so she thinks she is fine! I've tried talking to her.
BeyondTheFail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So much of this (also a medical assistant for a cataract/LASIK surgeon, been exposed to ophthalmology pretty much all of my memorable life). I had an underclassman back in high school (normally bright guy) that I had the "No, no, stop that" talk with regarding sleeping in his contact lenses. He didn't listen. Nothing happened in high school as far as I know, but he probably got an acanthamoeba or something. I haven't heard from him in ages.
Sumeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once fell asleep while still wearing those soft contacts. The sensation of dried-up lens sticking to your eyeball and eyelid is painful enough to not do that again. Are there actually people who keep wearing lenses?
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just had a college age girl in the ER the other day with a massive eye infection. She had slept in them and went about her business in the same pair of lenses for about a month. Your eyes are not meant to have foreign bodies in them that long.
Sumeron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:01 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes, the mere thought of having lenses in for more than 8 consecutive hours already makes me uncomfortable. Did she give a reason why she was wearing them so long?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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skootch_ginalola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh God I'm getting anxiety. Please please please calmly explain to her why she cannot do that (use Google images if you must), and have her see her eye doctor to make sure everything is okay.
golfer_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey what's your opinion on the Focus Night & Day contacts, where their main selling point is "You don't have to take your contacts off for a month!" ?
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every ophthalmologist or cataract surgeon I work with bluntly says that's bullshit, and STILL maintains you should be rotating your glasses and contacts. Your eyes were never meant to have a foreign body in them like that. Do we all have emergencies occasionally? Yes. Do we sometimes get drunk and pass out in contacts? Yes. But a big thing is your eyes won't always signal pain if something is wrong. Major issues can be happening to your retina, cornea, etc without a "signal" of pain, blood or pus. I myself have astigmatism and use glasses and contacts. If I wear contacts on Monday and Tuesday (I take them out at night), I will wear glasses Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. I'm a female, and also a stickler about using soap and water to remove eye makeup, and recommend anyone with oily eyelids or who use extensive makeup to use diluted baby shampoo to clean their eyelids and under the eyes every night when they're washing up for bed.
Octopus_Tetris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am on day 8 or 9 using my dailies. How fucked am I?
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have glasses, I recommend every other day (one day contacts, one day glasses). If you're on your last pair of contact lenses, please make an eye appointment (I know it takes forever to get one), and rotate your glasses as much as possible. I know contacts are expensive, I know most of us don't like wearing glasses, but please, this is your eyesight.
randomnurse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got contacts that are designed for me to put in and leave in for 14 days, previously had ones that were meant to stay in for 4 weeks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to my old English teacher, she was blind for several days before it was removed.
HarambeMarston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this lesson the fun way. Kept my contacts in for far too long and didn't change them out for a few months at a time. Eventually broke down and went in for a long overdue exam because I kept feeling like I had dirt or something in my eye and had no more replacement contacts. Ended up having a scratched cornea that required medicated drops and no contacts for a week or so. I take them out every night or when I'm just hanging out at the house now.
Black_Lannister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But if they fuse then I'm good forever right? /s
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smiled at that.
Iy13n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I use Ortho-K lenses. :)
citoloco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like there was an article out there a little while ago where a girl didn't take hers out for six months and this happened to her.
Dotre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I used to wear them almost weekly even bi-weekly without even removing them. Makes sense that I can't wear my contacts longer than 10 hours nowadays.
andygchicago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:40 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I talked to my opthalmologist colleague, and no, they can't "fuse" to the eye. It's more like touching a tongue to a frozen pole: They can stick very easily, but saline will soften them, and yes, sometimes doctors will need to remove them. But "fusing?" He said absolutely not. But he did say non compliance can lead to blindness from this and many other reasons.
scarletnightingale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:23 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read a story maybe a year ago, I think it was in Japan or China, where a woman left her contacts in for 6 months, just like, figured she could pop them in, and she'd be good from then on or something. Well, unsurprisingly this resulted in bacterial growth and she ended up with ulcerated corneas and is now blind.
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/girl-left-her-contacts-6-months-and-amoebas-ate-her-eyeballs/
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:58 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We do a lot of what we type in as "EWF" (ER Follow Ups). You came to the normal ER, and we see the aftermath. So if you got in a car accident and got stitched up, we would check your eye socket, stuff like that. Corneal ulcers are common. Nurses freak out when people explain they stored their contacts in tap water and then put them in, because of the risk of bacterial growth.
-ili- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no I fall asleep with my glasses on all the time ๐๐๐
PirateJohn75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:15 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did that for one night by accident and the next morning I was very unhappy.
outerheavenboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:45 on February 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a new type of contacts that you don't have to take off. Those are the ones I use.
HIM_Darling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:23 on February 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the air optix night and day ones. My eyes never feel dry, I take them out overnight once a week. Been sleeping in them for years. My prescription hasn't changed in a few years either. I used to hate the acuvue ones I was getting before because I could also "feel" them in, but with these I honestly have never felt a big difference from when I'm wearing them vs when I'm not.
drippingthighs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just took mine out and gonna wear glasses for a while.
i go many months at a time wit them in all day all night. i mean many. like 3+, 6+, who knows, even 12 x_x. repeatedly. for many years.never had a problem.
ugh this is scary
grneyedvixn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do the same thing and never had a problem. Didn't take mine out but this did make me check them.
drippingthighs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how long have you gone with them in?
grneyedvixn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:07 on June 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
6 months, sometimes longer. Sorry, I just saw this comment. Better late than never.
s_dot_p ยท 13037 points ยท Posted at 23:04:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got placed doing a rotation in the orthopedic floor of a big hospital in a rural area of Southern California. I was doing my rounds and saw a patient out of bed and walking around the floor following a knee replacement. She had a cane in her hand that she was carrying like as a solider would carry a rifle. I asked what she was doing and what she thought the cane was for. She replied she thought the cane was for pushing people out of her way since she's now "handicapped" and it wasn't to help her walk on her post op knee.
Awk_Ward1 ยท 4714 points ยท Posted at 23:58:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the first response that genuinely made me laugh out loud. I can just imagine some cranky old woman swatting people out of her way.
daviannamorgan ยท 2361 points ยท Posted at 03:19:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a cranky old woman story for you:
My Mom worked at a nursing home as a cook. They ended up having to take away the electric wheelchair of a resident that was 107 because she kept running people over when they made her mad.
She was my Mom's favorite resident.
mylesfrost335 ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 08:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone from primary school (uk) who had 1 arm and during his later years of secondary he actually got a prosthetic arm it was a pretty good one however he would sometimes remove it and hit people with it and broke it within the week.
shitsnacksandcracker ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 10:40:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend did the same with her leg. This little shit had been mercilessly calling her hopalong for weeks. She could normally deal with it (she was used to kids being horrible because she was different) but one day she lost it and took her leg off in the playground and twatted this kid round the head with it. He never did it again. My mum worked at the school and said all the teachers were secretly glad she did it because this kid needed knocking down a peg or two.
TrojanZebra ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 14:44:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...peg... I fucking snorted, thanks.
shitsnacksandcracker ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:07:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even clock on what I had done there! Glad you enjoyed it hah
CaptOblivious ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 09:55:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tear my arm off and beat you with it!
Wait, What? <too late>
notabigmelvillecrowd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid and I pissed off my mum, she would threaten to rip off her arm and beat me with the wet end.
abrasiveteapot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A widely used Australian jokey threat is to tear your arms off and beat you with the soggy ends
thenonlurker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:09:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this him? http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/darksouls/images/6/63/SotFS_LastGiant.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150429032625
mylesfrost335 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:14:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
kinda except he was not as terrifing but he would he would still fuck you up in video games (i found out the old fashioned way 1V1 rust) as he had a small stump
BluerIvy12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:17:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does he now teach traumatic life lessons to children?
DirtySmurfLover ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:43:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as "they had to take away the electric chair" I thought Nursing homes had gotten much more brutal for a second or two
Archonet ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NO MORE FATAL ELECTROCUTION FOR YOU, MA'AM.
Not until you can behave yourself.
green_apple_snapple ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 08:32:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After 107 years, she ran out of fucks to give.
__NomDePlume__ ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 06:44:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to be that little old lady one day
BallsDandy ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:07:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Misread be as battle, sounded like a pretty one-sided fight
Aeon_Mortuum ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed, it's clear that the old lady would win
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 09:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Morlok8k ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 09:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you meant that 107 is a pretty good player level.
awesmazingj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:00:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pshhh. My paladin is higher level.
Morlok8k ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:06:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pssst... Check out /r/outside
awesmazingj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is golden.
ruarisaurusrrex ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 09:20:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a care home opposite my high school, there was one resident who would deliberately aim his wheelchair at groups of students and try to run us over.
It has been 8 years since I left school and I still panic a little bit every time I see him
Neutrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has no belligerent teenager ever tried to tip him over or something?
ruarisaurusrrex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a clue! Most of us spent our time trying to stay out of his way
alphamini ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a cranky old woman story for you:
My mom
daviannamorgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As of now, she totally is. She's 64 and downright cranky. It was her destiny.
hortenseclock ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 08:14:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a nursing home story for you :
My brother worked at a nursing home as a "dietary aide". Basically he delivered lunch and dinner to the residents. There was an old lady that flashed him every time he delivered her meals.
ananagramanana ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 12:08:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Acute psych nurse story! Little old ladies are the ones who will time it out perfectly so that you're doing rounds while they're loudly and furiously masturbating.
CaptOblivious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
boom chika holy shit.
MayorBee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:56:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super Pussy!
MetaTater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:37:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then....?
hortenseclock ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:02:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then he quit and got a job at Blockbuster. He is very gay, and felt that he wasn't paid enough to see old titties everyday.
200Tabs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dying ๐คฃ
MetaTater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My bad... :|
SkyezOpen ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you live to be 107, you deserve to run over people that make you mad.
cat_collector102 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:00:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made an account just so I could upvote your comment
SkyezOpen ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:55:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You better be using it to post cat pics now.
queenofthera ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But mainly to save cat pics.
DirtySmurfLover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:27:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He collects the skins
spiderkid319 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Checks out.
daviannamorgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, good sir!
beginner_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:08:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
daviannamorgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As of posting this: Fuck yeah, she is a cranky old lady. But that was always her destiny.
Fenor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there was a darwin awards of someone doing the same thing against an elevator
if someone want the spoiler of how it ended it's a darwing award
vSTekk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that is just because she had safe vantage point behind the counter
nocontroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:20:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's already my favorite resident and I've never met her.
Myis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:30:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The other residents are probably her kid's age so of course she would. I would.
throwaway201612mlc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vroom vroom mofo๏ผ
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is who I want to be when I grow up.
3CAF ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw old people race each other with those handicapped carts. Never too old to drag race I suppose.
Raiquo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoot no, they should've just made it remote-controlled instead. She starts acting up, grab the remote and wheel her ass into the corner, lol.
pokahi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, your mom definitely sounds like a cook.
supbanana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother raised me. She was paralyzed from the waist down when she was 17 and by the time I was living with her she was in an electeic wheelchair that weighed about 300 pounds and if we got ran over it was, "well, why weren't you paying attention?" We learned to stay out of her way real quick.
fireinthesky7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paramedic here. I can't say I would mind getting that call. Old people are hilarious.
dashingtoast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:54:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think i know this woman
mylesfrost335 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:42:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone from primary school (uk) who had 1 arm and during his later years of secondary he actually got a prosthetic arm it was a pretty good one however he would sometimes remove it and hit people with it and broke it within the week.
Erkebiskop_Aunan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought I'd give u an updoot, but saw u had 666, my OCD won't let me
pumpkinrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She sounds amazing.
akaenragedgoddess ยท 914 points ยท Posted at 00:43:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YAY! I have a story (short) for you then. I live in NYC. Went to Chinatown one day a couple years ago with my hun and we saw this hunchbacked elderly Chinese lady making her way down Canal street by swinging her cane back and forth around her in a wide arc. Lady was taking no chances getting knocked over. It was totally working too, she had this little bubble of personal space about 3 feet on each side and everyone else was packed like sardines. It was a sight. I hope she's still swinging!
the_incredible_hawk ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 04:15:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have this great mental image of you and Attila walking through Chinatown hand in hand. It's romantic.
plvic52 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:39:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg same! You need more upvotes!
Edit: lol why is it I who is getting the upvotes? Thanks?! ๐
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:06:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jxuereb ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:26:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spell check your edit dude
padiwik ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*grammar check
DoingItWrongly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
zeek hile
jxuereb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He had to spell it for the grammar to be wrong though
CptJeanLucPeculiar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto!!!!
akaenragedgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol... I just don't like the term boyfriend. I'm not dating Attila!
Mrrasta123 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 04:28:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drove a bus for awhile and once a car next to me at a stoplight, driven by a young dbag, stopped, blocking the crosswalk. An old gentleman with a cane was waiting to cross. He stared the guy down, raised his cane and brought it down HARD over the car's hood. He then walked around the car and went on his way. The guy in the car was slack jawed just sat there.
MancusoMancuso ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:04:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaand this is why my father has a restraining order against him and I can't take him to that restaurant we liked anymore.
abrasiveteapot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Snap
CyberClawX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sucks when the crossroad is blocked by a late braker, and you have to walk around it, specially if you have a handicap. But, scratching the paint of the car just to show the other guy was wrong, is way worse.
The dbag was inconvenient, or inconsiderate at best. The old gentleman(?) was a vandal who damaged private property on purpose.
bahzew ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
making a mental note to buy a cane!
spockspeare ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if this becomes a thing maybe buggy whips can make a comeback
papereverywhere ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:02:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I know why SO kept that cane in the basement. Mine now!
grizzfan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:01:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if she's still swinging, she wouldn't invite you.
Jawz4Lyfe ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure that she wasn't just blind?
akaenragedgoddess ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 02:12:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure. Blind people need to actually touch the ground with their canes because they can't see tripping obstacles or judge steps down or up without it. She never touched the ground with her cane. She looked pretty darn frail so I really think she was using it to keep people from pushing into her. If she was blind, she was really new to being blind cause that was not the way to use a cane for navigation.
CyberClawX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't need to touch the ground, I've seen at least one that didn't. Sometimes people just do what they feel is more natural to them. There was that blind kid, that could create a sort of sonar with his mouth, letting him even skate.
Different people will do it differently, but they can just swipe in front of the feet, to detect big obstacles (walls, people, boxes, etc), or maybe she just wasn't properly educated/trained on it's use.
That would also explain why everyone was giving her wide margin - people tend to actively avoid getting in the way of blindmen.
Was the cane white?
akaenragedgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't remember the cane color. BF says it was dark wood or black. We were across the street. I really think she would have fell at some point using the cane that way if she were blind. She was swinging it at her head height.
CyberClawX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol ok that's too high. xD
And blind canes are usually white, so again, probably not blind, just rude.
TrepanationBy45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blind people swing their stick around them in a wide arc?
spockspeare ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
probably about 120 degrees centered in front of them, but with the tip bouncing on the ground
TrepanationBy45 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So not like the OP described? Glad we got that cleared up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinky. That's one big dick.
WhyIsThe_RumGone ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazed she's still swinging at her age
Hammer_Jackson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your Hun?
akaenragedgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BF. I don't like the term boy friend much. But we're not technically married so I usually say my significant other or my hun. Not like Attila tho....
Hammer_Jackson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I wish I had an Attila :/, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing out on an important piece of the story, thank you for clarifying
jimxster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:14:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure she wasn't from Thailand?
akaenragedgoddess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She could have been I guess. With younger people I can usually tell Korean, Japanese, Thai, Viet, etc. Older people are harder.
ameristraliacitizen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems kinda cunty to me, she probably hits people all the time (it's not nice being hit in the face with what is basically a thin club). I feel like if that story was about a grandpa rather than a old lady everyone would be up in arms.
I mean it's funny and probably not doing to much harm but still
Idk whatever I guess it doesn't really matter but I already typed this out so I'm going to post it anyway
akaenragedgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, she didn't hit anyone while we were watching. I really do think everyone else was more dangerous to her than she was to them. She looked pretty frail. I think getting knocked over would've broken one or more of her bones.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd've loved my grandma.
In her 80s she was legally blind and had a white cane. Not one of those modern telescoping aluminium white sticks but a solid wooden cane, weighed more than a police baton.
Walking through town with me she'd just use it to point things out, without any consideration for anyone in the immediate vicinity. That cane was the original Street Sweeper. Whistling across horizontally at waist height it would clear the entire pavement for a 2 metre radius. I hated to think what it would've done if it'd connected with a kid's head.
spockspeare ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:18:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get off my linoleum!
rubiksmasta ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"How's your day ma'am?"
"fuck outta mah way bitchesssss!!!"
RunsWithShibas ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:13:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my mom was walking with a cane (horseback riding accident) and we were being unduly delayed coming through security at O'Hare on like leg three of a really long trip, I suggested she do just that.
mysextherapy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:41:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment made me laugh more with the visual than the original comment. I pictured the old grumpy face they currently have on Snapchat.
semicartematic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SWAT! Disabled!
PKB2727 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here - I screen shot it and sent it to a ton of friends. Cracked my ass up.
queeraspie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much everyone who uses a mobility aid has considered it. Able bodied people tend to lack perception of where their feet are, and often are unwilling to move if they don't think they are in the way, or they move their body but not their feet. It's peculiar.
ReptiRo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CRACK "OUTTA MY WAY I'M DISABLED!!"
Dopana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just imagining Stinkmeanor.
Lokitheanus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come on /u/AWildSketchAppeared
dunats ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:53:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That cranky old bitch would catch these hands real quick
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Awk_Ward1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't about believing or not believing. It was a funny story and made me laugh. Sorry you're such a crank and can't laugh.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too bad it's bs.
MyStrangeUncles ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 00:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah! You've met my grandmother, then. She says she carries a cane because people will open doors for you and let you cut in line. Delightful old gal.
Snstrmnstr ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 04:01:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My great grandmother was notorious for whacking male residents in her nursing home with her cane if she thought they were being fresh with her.
fojkrok ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 02:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad was on very harsh pain meds in the hospital for a tumor in his spinal chord so he was really out of it. One night, he was hunting lions and used his cane as a spear...
donutnz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet he made some cats day. It was finally treated with the fear and respect it deserved. The thought of your dad and some cat, both tripping balls, hunting each other through a hospital at midnight like they're on the African Savanah is quite entertaining. Though also kind of bad as I'm sure he was in significant pain.
fojkrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:46 on January 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well he was bed ridden so he only really scared the nurses and his "roommates". On the upside, he was treated to a free private room afterwards!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ubisoft are getting creating with Far Cry Primal VR.
flashypurplepatches ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly what my father-in-law did with his cane. At first he hated it because he thought it made him look old. When he realized it was a weapon of immense power, there was no leaving it behind.
evil_burrito ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 01:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was probably roasty toasty on plenty of morphine, too. Knee replacements are unbelievably painful and require a lot of pain meds.
Moara7 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:56:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is part of why they're talking about cutting back on pain meds in general. A little pain can be pretty useful in a lit of circumstances.
MarybethCooperstone ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:21:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canes do work for pushing people out of the way. I have seen it work.
And if you hold a metal cane like a baseball bat and stare at windshields, you can stop traffic. I saw that work too!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:14:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wearing a white jumpsuit and a cod piece as well, right right?
imperialmoose ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:36:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From now on, everyone gets two canes.
SinfullySinless ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So like.... crutches?
spacepilot_3000 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:57:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of, but one's for swingin'
imperialmoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Battle crutches.
SinfullySinless ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Granny has been to 'Nam. Granny has seen shit.
rexmus1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mom? No seriously, my mom does this. She is crazy.
bahzew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ha! I need more visual info on this woman to better imagine her prodding people out of her way as she takes her walk around the floor.
AmayaNakashime ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rural area of Southern California...was it in Hanford?
Watowdow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is either Bakersfield or Antelope Valley.
amesann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was my guess too. They said large hospital so I'm guessing a desert town. I work at a large one in Palm Springs, but I doubt people would call the area "rural" unless you're only used to large cities.
ImALittleCrackpot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that's hilarious.
lllola ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off topic, but where was this?
kaybeezeey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like Bakersfield!
thatlonelyasianguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Riverside.
jacyerickson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:56:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or Palmdale. (Ok, not that rural but still...)
SillyFlyGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn! I love this one!
ozziedog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you don't get sarcasm.
ex_CEO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a joke
jacyerickson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair I live in Southern California and often want to swat people out of my way. There's a lot of people here.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
terBerFerrr, I wish that were the most common practical use of canes.
sdzw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is almost exactly what my 90 year old grandmother does from time to time
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PT here. Have also seen too many patients wandering around holding their cane up
iLickBloodAnal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother passed away last month and this would so be her shuffling her way down to the food court swatting people away.. thank you for this :)
Neyabenz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not exactly wrong...
bhampson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an 80 year old man that wanted Viagra. Me, being a responsible physician, tried to inquire if his heart was healthy enough for sex. His response "my wife and I don't have sex any more. Masturabating daily makes it so I don't wake up in the middle of the night to pee." I didn't know how how to respond so I wrote the prescription.
bhampson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an 80 year old man that wanted Viagra. Me, being a responsible physician, tried to inquire if his heart was healthy enough for sex. His response "my wife and I don't have sex any more. Masturabating daily makes it so I don't wake up in the middle of the night to pee." I didn't know how how to respond so I wrote the prescription.
spiderguy1213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone has been watching reruns of House.
tl7lmt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the lady who will live to be 120 while smoking cigars and drinking whiskey every day. Thanks for sharing - made me laugh!!
DI0GENES_LAMP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That woman's name? House.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a wheelchair user I kinda like this idea. I have been slammed into so many times and just literally not seen (and I feel bad about the couple of time heavy powerchair ran over people's feet as a result but I mean, that's kinda what you get for not watching where you're going) and my favorite is when all the able-bodied people crowd onto an elevator even if I was waiting before everyone so there's no room for me to get on. Think it would be hilarious to stick out a cane and refuse to let the door shut until I was allowed on. (Also useful in general for rapidly closing elevator doors). And being smacked with a cane hurts less then the broken toes of being run over so...
This person has the right idea! ;)
PublicUrinator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upon becoming disabled you are indeed granted a weapon of choice.
Dennis_Rudman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually try to get people to walk as soon as possible when you have a knee replacement. It helps to speed up the recovery.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Morphine is a helluva drug
WORD_559 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is she now... Hand-knee-capped?
philipquarles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure that's how it works in golf. The bigger your "handicap," the bigger the club you can use to hit the other golfer.
ionised ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol
This is hilarious.
craftyanasty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was this a scrubs episode?
swimming-turtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good one
radioactivemelanin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope she was kidding because otherwise... Lmfao holy hell!!!
newsheriffntown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly how I'm going to be some day. Outta my way!!!
cestlavie922 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just spat my tea on my computer screen in a fit of laughter as a result of reading this.
Geminii27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"That's what Granny always used her cane for!"
bucketofboilingtears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm totally going to do this when I'm old
RECOGNI7E ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like her style! Now we just need to teach trump a lesson
zerbey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A knew an elderly lady who used to cross the road by the following method: One she would raise her walking stick up in the air, two she would step into oncoming traffic. People in the town got pretty adept at slowing down when they saw her coming. It's a miracle she was never hit, she wasn't and lived to 102.
scarletnightingale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, she sounds amazing. I know several people who look look forward to the fact that when they are old they can be cranky and cantankerous and it will be somewhat more socially acceptable.
SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:50 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this. She genuinely thought that canes weren't to help her walk but to exercise some magical protection clause under the name "handicap".
JetstreamGW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:28 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... Merciful Christ. How LONG after a knee replacement?
probablyNOTtomclancy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like her style.
"Out of the way fuckers! Can't you see I'm handicapped?!""
[deleted] ยท 253 points ยท Posted at 01:14:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talking to the children/POAs of nursing home residents about vaccines. Most will just sign the flu shot form. Some believe it will give their 90-some grandpappy autism.
guacamoleo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:09:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would just start telling them that I have autism and I turned out fine, so don't worry about it.
EvilSJW ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:00:32 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually a pretty good example of how batshit insane misinformation about vaccines has gotten, tbh
freddybob ยท 254 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist, but comment still relates.
Had a lady call in complaining that their husbands viagra wasn't working. I then went on to explain to the patients wife that in order for the medication to work, the patient needed some sort of "stimulation" The lady just screamed a loud "ME?!?!?!" and then hung up the phone.
Still my favorite viagra story.
SmellTheLoktar ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:55:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That poor dude.
bubblegrubs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:07:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, im betting he didnt even take it.
Im_a_peach ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:34:14 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many husbands did the multiple lady have?
Huh?
Total_Dick_Move ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 05:07:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Client brings in her dog for a tick she tried to burn off. Looking, I see it's a nipple and tell her this. She says "but he's a boy! How can he have nipples?" I say "ma'am, your husband has nipples." Blank stare. Then lightbulb moment for her.
Trientalis_latifolia ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 08:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That poor dog.
Raineythereader ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:57:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love your username.
Trientalis_latifolia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:16:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! :)
Raineythereader ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:56:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also: folks, please do not burn ticks off. The stress can make them vomit germs into the host's bloodstream.
DoomTurtleSaysDoom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:46:31 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you supposed to get them off then? I always heard you were supposed to light a match, blow it out, then hold the match end to them to make them drop off because if you pull with tweezers the head can break off. Are you just supposed to wait for them to drop off on their own?
Also, yech. This whole topic is grossing me. (Am not a doctor. Wouldn't last a day.)
Raineythereader ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:08:14 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The big ones (adult wood ticks and lone-stars) I've been able to pull out with my fingertips. The trick is to gently and steadily increase the force, rather than yanking on them. For nymphs, I usually slide the edge of a knife under the body, pin them against the blade with my thumb, and do the same steady-pull routine.
There's also such a thing as a "tick key," a flat piece of aluminum with a specially shaped hole in it, that they sell at some outdoor/camping stores. It doesn't work on ticks below a couple of millimeters wide, but for adult deer ticks and larger species, I can't recommend it highly enough.
Edit: I do sympathize. I'm an ecologist and tend to be pretty hardcore about conservation and not killing things without a reason, but I absolutely despise ticks.
Lt_Duckweed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:55:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least she got the lightbulb.
zebrastarz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
soft gasp...you're right.
mysteryguessed ยท 10224 points ยท Posted at 23:36:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is a student doctor and is on placement at a small town doctor's office. She had a 70-ish year old woman come in with complaints of a small but painless growth that was visible at the back of her throat.
Turns out it took her 70 years to notice her uvula.
Shendare ยท 3898 points ยท Posted at 02:28:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"That must be the uvula!"
"Ohhhh, so it's a girl house."
Monster House [0:12]
Full Scene [1:16]
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1298 points ยท Posted at 02:36:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was so not a film for kids when you look at the whole movie and its contents. There were sexual and drug references, it was pretty scary for a kids movie and I just felt a more teenage vibe watching it.
Metal-Marauder ยท 633 points ยท Posted at 03:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's its real weakness. It got marketed for kids so teens were uninterested, probably expecting a campy weak horror, but for kids it's not that interesting either and probably too scary for many.
LobeLardo ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 03:50:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh 4-9 year old me is terrified of that movie but watching them collapse and old cement lady still haunts me...
[deleted] ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 05:06:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TobiDaDog ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 06:01:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 10. Was watching it with my parents and right before the cement* scene they got bored and left me alone in the dark. Edited because it was supposed to say cement. Not cemetery.
Rogersgirl75 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:33:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still play it every year on CN around Halloween. I always watch it around that time.
That and Scary Godmothers Spooky Spooktacular or whatever that other novie is called they play on CN on Halloween.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:58:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Vyronix ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:32:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found it here
samurai_jak ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:55:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also has a super dark storyline that was really interesting but again for younger teens more than kids
AmandaKay0831 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fell in love with this movie when I was 15 and it is still one of my favorites! I used to smoke weed out of my apple pipe I made and watch it! Ohh that and Doogal!!
StarryNightBright ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:00:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Was traumatized.
llittleserie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, remember watching this with my 6 years older sister and being genuinely terrified.
Mail540 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It scared the crap out of me when I was like 10
Castun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate when films are mis-marketed. Like did your advertising firm even watch the same effin' movie as the rest of us?!?
Metal-Marauder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is a lot Of companies think cartoon = little kids
Castun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:47 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And so do the parents!
iDork622 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it when I was little and it scared the shit out of me, so you're exactly right afaik.
Nubalox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it sure was for me...
priv1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it was a Halloween movie released in the summary. Sheesh
texasrigger ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 03:34:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was written by Dan Harmon (Community, Rick & Morty if you're new to the internet) so it's way better than it probably should have been.
[deleted] ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 04:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Isotopian ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:48:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my exact sentiment, no wonder I liked that movie so much when it came out!
preparationhguzzler ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:49:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was rob schrab's plot. Dan helped make it good. It got ruined by production. Dan wrote a rant/letter to a kid about the getting ruined part.
MajesticBosom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source of this info? Sounds interesting
preparationhguzzler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Search dan Harmon monster house letter for the letter.
As far as it being schrab's idea, I'm just basing that on the way they both talk about it on dan's podcast. (Harmontown)
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That explains a lot
elitegenoside ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That guy gets around
JellyBeanKruger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, I had no idea! I might actually watch it now!
holysus ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:26:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the pizza guy nerd playing that video game was my favorite scene. or was it tacos? idk
shonglekwup ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:38:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THOU ART DEAD
SubterrelProspector ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:01:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fine though. Nothing wrong with that. The movie is great.
zincH20 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:26:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What movie is that ?
edit: ok just watched paul blart (terrible) and Thomas and the Magic Railroad the scene wasn't in any of those two movies, I've seen Schindlers List, Snatch, and Django, can't sit thru the Godfather, come on the Godfather? It's no Money Pit, I guess I will never know....
TommyGun812 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:27:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Monster House
SubterrelProspector ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Monster House. They mentioned it and I said it was great.
DonMan8848 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 03:37:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paul Blart: Mall Cop
Shendare ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darude: Sandstorm
bliow ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:45:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Schindler's List
the_grand_chawhee ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:27:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
House Bunny
altodor ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thomas and the Magic Railroad
SomethingICameUpWith ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:29:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Godfather
doctormodulator ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:47:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chef
PM_me_PaintedToes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:36:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Snatch
RoboPup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously it is from Monster House.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Django Unchained.
JLDIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Schwab?
OkArmordillo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:42 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are joking when you say Paul Blart is terrible right? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no doubt there I just felt weird working at a movie theater during it's theatrical release as the audience was parents of late 20s to early 40s accompanying their 4 to 10 yr olds. I felt like the people it was marketed to weren't of appropriate age. I'm sure the parents enjoyed it though
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow I still haven't watched it despite being a Dan Harmon fanboy, I need to get on that.
greengrasser11 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:41:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a great movie. Didn't expect it to be that good.
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:51:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed it's good but I felt it was darker than the audience it was marketed towards could appreciate
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just learned it's a dan Harmon and it explains so much
ThePrussianGrippe ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:27:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really enjoyed that film. Definitely more geared for teens.
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:57:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed. Everyone I worked with at the time agreed ( worked at a theater)
thedarkestone1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:19:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a great film. I subbed for a middle school English teacher that showed it to his class every year around Halloween to show them the key elements to telling a cohesive story (exposition, rising action, climax, falling action and conclusion).
xprdc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't find it scary as a kid.
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 19 when it came out but knew my 9 yr old self would have been scared
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's your kid age, kid?
xprdc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 13, which I suppose was a bit older, but my younger siblings and my nieces now, each younger than 6, love the movie.
college_prof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:30:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the parenting tip, u/LickMyBloodyScrotum
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome!
Nikalus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eh, any kid older than 9 or 10's had at least one sex ed class at school...
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but I was 19 at the time and would have been confused and scared a decade prior if I watched it
Erase_me_mommy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. My 4 and 6 yr has watched it several times over the past year or so. They also enjoy all thing fnaf.
I remember watching pet cemetary when i was like 8 or 9 and live operations on tlc (back when it was actually the learning channel).
CaptainMelonHead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This movie was my first existential crisis as a kid
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 19 when it came out.
OkArmordillo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:16 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The owner of the house gave me the creeps. Especially when he had a heart attack. Ugh.
ORLYORLYORLYORLY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What sexual and drug references are there? It's been a while since I've seen this film and I've quite forgotten.
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember the sex one besides it being between the sister and stoner like bf. The drug one is the cold medicine as a sedative for the house ( the cops reinforce this in movie)
TomCatActual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, movie spooked ne good as a child. A woman is covered in concrete, dies, and then becomes the house.
Zentopian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of the ImageMovers animated films are seriously not for kids. Even Polar Express gave me nightmares.
YouWantALime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kid's horror movies are not just toned down horror movies. Usually they end up being really fucking creepy rather than outright horrifying, and that's the part that gets me. Monster House really freaked me out for a while.
AmberNeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was a "Here take your younger sibling to a movie" movie.
ConfusedPillow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a kid when it came out in theaters and watched it in 3D. It scared the shit out of me and gave me nightmares for weeks. Same thing for Courage the Cowardly Dog.
barnyThundrSlap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely had nightmares when I watched it. The whole cement scene freaked me the fuck out
daaaamngirl88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kids freakin love Monster House. But I've been making them watch scary shit since they were little. Paranorman and Boxtrolls are also good ones.
donutnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That film scared the piss out of me. At this point I can't even remember what happens but I can still feel the fear. I should rewatch that.
adhdnd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Written by Dan Harmon, creator of community, if anyone is curious or would find that interesting.
TimeTravelMishap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When the house got up and started moving it legitimately freaked me out as an adult.
Then again I was extremely drunk at the time but still
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have only watched it once when I was a kid, hell, I never even finished watching it and yet I know exactly what the link is without clicking.
That was one scary ass movie.
NotYourAverageBeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's almost every CGI 'kid's film' made by Pixar and Dreamworks.
Shoddy feel goodery rife with subversive drug and sex references.
amyss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I put it on and had two weeping youngins( 6& 3)
KrazyKestral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, sexual and drug references?? How did I miss those? But in all seriousness, how is that different than any Disney movies (which are known for having subtle sex/adult themed references)?
jasonreid1976 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son was obsessed with that movie the first four years of his life.
It's actually quite good and yeah, so many older age level jokes in that movie.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids should watch scary movies, it forms a lot of great unrealistic fears for them to overcome. It's part of growing up. This notion that kids movies shouldn't be scary is ludicrous, especially coming from the generation that experienced scary movies as kids and came out the other side A-OK. Sterilizing a generation's media is how we end up with oversensitive whinebags who cannot contribute to the great machine.
SmartAlec105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is the 3rd time I've read this exact comment on reddit. Probably just a case of Deja Vu.
Doiihachirou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If kids thought that movie was scary, then they're weaklings.
I eat those weaklings for breakfast.
bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:31 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What references? It's been a long time since I saw it
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:19 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cough syrup as sedative for house and cops treating it like drugs, the boyfriend's reference to sex with the main characters sister
stevencow69 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:35:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That movie mentally scarred me
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hate it to this day!
Crymson831 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 03:25:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I never see this quoted but it's my first thought whenever I hear the word uvula.
radicalelation ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:28:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never seen that movie, so instead I think of this scene when I hear the word.
coolpeepz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:37:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would someone put their uvula in Frank's throat?
xMJsMonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:27:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's such a great movie
precociouspi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What movie is this?
xMJsMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Osmosis Jones. Kids movie (but not really) about cells in the body but they're alive
Dwarfdeaths ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:45:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the same thing trying to remember the name for your lungs' air sacs (alveoli).
SirCollin ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:16:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am 21 and my little sister watched that film so many times the DVD broke and I just got that joke.
SlippingStar ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:59:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was afraid most wouldn't get the joke because they don't know that they call the "vagina" is actually a "vulva" (the vagina is ONLY the tunnel).
7MeUP ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:35:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know you don't care but I literally just watched Rogue One and was talking about how one of the generals from the empire (the one that was made using CGI) looked like the old man from Monster House and now I see this. Baader Meinhof Phenomenon never fails to amaze me when it appears.
iHokage ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:39:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Moff Tarkin was his name
Colin_Whitepaw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, isn't that just Grand?
Quothhernevermore ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG, he DOES look like Peter Cushing! (Who plays Moff Tarkin)
MrBojangoUnchained ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:49:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And was an icon of hammer horror before that.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:55:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He knows less about human anatomy than I do. And I can't even find my own uterus!
everythingwaffle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lady problems, amirite? It's probably floating around somewhere in your body. Mine does, and it drives me CRAZY.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lady? No, I'm a guy.
its a Futurama reference....
Leonard_Church814 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:15:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good movie.
Calisto823 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:44:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wolfman's got nards!
Edit: Dang it, wrong movie. Got all excited cuz I thought it said Monster Squad. You just don't see enough references from that movie
Poopyoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone with a dirty mind and 22 years old im just making sure- is it because it looks KIND OF like the word vulva? because i think i missed something
Shendare ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:48:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. The joke is that the blond kid managed to know enough about anatomy to mistake 'uvula' for the name of an exclusively female body part, the vulva.
IAmBabs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the end, kid wasn't wrong.
bossdogs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your format makes it look like a scriptural quotation from the gospel of Monster House
PsychoEliteNZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, my god! I used to watch this movie a lot when it came out... I only get that joke now.
SaveFerris9001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That movie scared the shit out of me
Walnut156 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhhhh! Now I get it!
Wow a lot of jokes in this movie really flew over my head looking back on it
themightywagon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Solid film, 10/10, game of the year
Colleen_the_bean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best. Line. Ever.
Touchmycooker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the only thing i remember from that movie
honbadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best line in the movie.
bryanleebmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never understood that part. Don't both men and women have an uvula? What am I supposed to be getting there?
FarragoSanManta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Originally read this in Grif's voice from RVB
JDFidelius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got this reference when I saw this in 5th grade.... must say I was quite proud of myself.
sic_parvis_magna_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:11 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch this be meta all over Reddit.
OkArmordillo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:32 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't expect a monster house reference.
Koreyanderseeds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:43 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've just now understood what he thought "uvula" was.
2hoodrich4me ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read it as vulva and was confused lol
ashadowwolf ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably made the same mistake which is why he thought it was a girl house
OkieVT ยท 492 points ยท Posted at 02:15:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not going to lie...thought that said vulva first and was super confused
kosif ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your vulva is at the back of your mouth, you should definitely see a doctor.
tigerscomeatnight ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:09:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vulvula
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:27:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vuvuzela.
cryokin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mulvula?
dcbluestar ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:03:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad I'm not the only one!
FrakkerMakker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed. That would be an odd place for a vulva.
sagelface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. I was wondering how one's vulva would be at the back of their throat.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Volvo?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shudder
Mufro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had me questioning everything I know.
rrittenhouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here! I thought I had missed something.....
Train_of_flesh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the only one...
melaniem89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely thought the same
miggidymiggidy ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. For my entire life until now I thought my uvula was my tonsils. My nurse wife just looked at me like I'm the biggest idiot in the world. I guess I don't blame her.
tea_hoarder ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 00:42:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend has incredible street smarts and a great knowledge of history but apparently not anatomy. He kept telling me his tonsil would make him gag when his throat was swollen. He showed me once and his throat looked fine. Turns out he was talking about his uvula. He thought it was a tonsil. Edit: word
[deleted] ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 01:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only learned as an adult that uvula and tonsils are different things
dfgnsmnbdmnsv ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 02:21:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You learned that just now reading that comment, didn't you? It's okay, you can admit it.
JayLikeThings ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 02:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i did, i didnt have a clue! I'm not ashamed, i can hop-scotch.
Mad_Hatter_Bot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you answered my next question.
JayLikeThings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes i can double dutch too !!
jarious ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:57:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe you had this conversation with an adult...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, ok...you got me
HiddenCity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont think a lot of people know that
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, kids usually hear about tonsils in terms of them being removed and being somewhere in the back of the throat. There's no reason to presume it's not the only thing you can see back there.
poiyurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't know why this doesn't come up in school.
UndeadKitten ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:01:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was my tonsils as a kid. Had mine removed because of constant strep throat and was shocked to see my uvula still there after surgery.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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luckierbridgeandrail ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:32:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she just doesn't want to have children.
darkforcedisco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Then what did you take out..."
"Well, you never wanted to be a father anyway, right?"
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:23:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only learned about it when i was 15 because i asked my mother what it was for lol, seems like a massively overlooked part of the body.
imminent_riot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:08:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you didn't get a totally clear answer it has a lot to do with your sinuses. One of the things it does is keep food/liquid from going up into your nose all the time.
ISHOTJAMC ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what? I'll put my hand up to it- so did I up until now.
TicklingKittens ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believed that until the movie Monster House came out.
ent_whisperer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm twenty six and hearing the word uvula for the first time I feel. Mom is a nurse, sis in law a practitioner. Hmph.
imminent_riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had to explain this to two people because it came up I'd had mine removed.
Spallboy ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 00:46:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kinda sweet. Silly old lady.
halal_queries_only ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Understatement of the year. I think it is the cutest thing I ever read. And believe me, I've read a bit
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:46:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it would be so sweet if it was a middle-aged man
Calisto823 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor, I've got thing growth in between my legs that's been there for as long as I can remember and sometimes stuff comes out of it. What's wrong with me!
luckierbridgeandrail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because you touch yourself at night.
ComradeRK ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amongst all the ignoring heart attacks, going to the ER for a pregnancy test and so on, this is my favourite one in the thread.
PianoManGidley ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to wonder if dementia/Alzheimer's was a factor. Maybe she already knew what a uvula was earlier in her life and forgot in her old age.
joshuams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my first thought
abcedarian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not many women notice their uvula AFTER their vulva
Zebidee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sssh! That's her next big surprise!
Uvulamaximus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could have helped with that!
cheesecrystal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once drank too much, slept with my mouth agape while snoring aggressively and my uvula swelled up to the point that I thought I had something stuck in my throat, it began choking me when I tried to swallow it until I puked. Had to keep my head forward to avoid choking until the Dr could give me some steroids.
findthegroove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely read "uvula" as "vulva."
I want to hear that story.
WisdomtheGrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shadowed my GP when I was a senior and considering medical school. He was moonlighting at a free clinic in lower income area. His nurse received a call late one morning from an alderly lady who was speaking Spanish. Her Spanish wasn't very good so she passed her over to the doctor who was fluent. All she was saying was "I've got vines in my poot". He couldn't figure out what she was saying and attributed it to an odd local dialect where she was from, and just told her to come on into the clinic. She came in a couple hours later, and upon examination; she indeed had vines growing out of her vagina. Turns out her uterus had started to fall as can happen with older women who have not had a hysterectomy, and her solution was to place a potato up there to hold it in place. The vines where the potato sprouting...and thriving.
simpersly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wondering, afterward did they check for Alzheimer's or dementia?
Turbotottle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of uvulas, my family doctor of 20 years (my whole life) just now found out in December that I have a Bifid Uvula.
adudeguyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she recently had cataract surgery and is now finally able to see well.
antiward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I've never seen mine
MyActualNameIsCarl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dementia?
jennap08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK what? I don't care if get down voted to infinity. I've never heard the word uvula before? I've never had my tonsils out or any sort of throat problem. I have a college degree and work in finance so I've never taken any sciences classes. Is it really that weird that I've just found out my tonsils aren't where I thought they were?
Learn something new everyday.
JFuckingJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have a uvula ๐
elementsofevan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people have very small uvula. It's possible hers became swollen enough to be noticeable.
frothface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing she was still that flexible at 70.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read vulva
hollally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend with two uvulas
Psychosmurf43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird but at the same time I can kinda see how it happened. I mean, the uvula is not exactly a high-profile body part. I was reminded of the uvula existing by this comment.
coachfortner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this explains so much about the political landscape we will soon "enjoy" in America
Deeliciousness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dementia is no laughing matter.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if she's 70, her eyes and/or brain may not be working at peak efficiency.
lesstesterone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to read it 6 times, and then the ensuing comment to figure out I was not the only one wondering about vulva her throat :D :D
probablyNOTtomclancy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now, many people are laughing...
The rest of you are googling "uvula".
bluetux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair sometimes when i feel sick i think bumps or other anatomy parts have grown that have been there forever
extremely_apathetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had an elderly woman come into the clinic complaining that her prostate was bothering her.
docfate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
King's Quest 4 taught me what an uvula was.
walmartsecure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read uvula as vulva and that "what the fuck kind of mouth is that?"
Clap4boobies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uvula? I hardly know her.
sicklyfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tbh i forgot it existed until this post.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A close friend's MIL called her concerned that the was a bump near her vagina.
It was her clitoris. It took her 70 and 4 children to notice it. I feel terrible for that woman.
Derp43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found a lump in my throat as a teenager looking in the mirror. Come to find out I can see my epiglottis without a laryngoscope
NCHappyDaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"All God's children has got a uvula!"
Kate2point718 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a split uvula (kind of looks like balls in the back of my throat, a little like this picture) and I think I was a teenager before I realized that I was a bit unusual and most people only have one uvula. When I saw a uvula in cartoons I always thought it was weird that there was only one.
yeame3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI in case anyone's wondering what it does:
https://youtu.be/ncmUToEIpEA
LeRatslayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL the term uvula...
mediocrefunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read vulva at first and was really confused.
RevWaldo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'll behoove ya ta take care of your uvula!
bugalou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. I read 'uvula' as 'vulva' for some reason and was very confused.
Jokkerb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That little old lady deserves two canes, or one cane and a cattle prod.
snickersicecreambar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical student*
Doomenate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my relatives around that age called the front desk at a hotel because of shock she felt from touching a windowsill. A worker came up and explained static electricity to her.
lucs86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of it, must be an American thing
kingswim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nursing lecturer told us a story about a women who came into ER with heavy bleeding from the throat. Her uvula had experienced a trauma and was almost entirely gone.
Doctors asked her what happened. She said she was in front of the mirror, looking inside her mouth. Saw her uvula, thought "oh that's weird", took a pair of scissors, and snipped it off.
punkfunkymonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend should have a word with my dad's doctor who thought that 'that thing at the back of my throat that's making it hard to breath and talk sometimes', was down to this doddering old man confused by his uvula and not the polyp that another doctor finally spotted a year later.
plain_wallflower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turns out it took her 70 years to notice her uvula. - for a moment I read vulva and was a bit confused.
soullessredhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I misread this as vulva >_>
jonfromdelocated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just realized I have two ears
chux4w ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was another story about this. Some girl brought her boyfriend into the ER because of a weird swelling that turned out to be his uvula. The reddit doctor told her that it was totally normal, and to blow their minds told the boyfriend to look in her mouth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had mine removed a few years ago. It's weird.
beeyonca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised she could see well enough at 70 to notice it.
rssmrry ยท 1687 points ยท Posted at 23:25:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I regularly have people come in for eye examinations because 'when I take my glasses of things are blurry'. Often these aren't passing comments during the exam, but the main reason for their visit to the clinic.
iatecivilization ยท 273 points ยท Posted at 00:17:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck the fuck off! Why do they think they wear glasses?!
lemonade_eyescream ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 02:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Something's fucky."
K1LL3RM0NG0 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:22:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something's not quite right....
Vapor30n ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An illusion! What are you hiding?!
centurion_celery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:58 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many fingers, son?
TargetAq ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 04:44:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably think the glasses fix their eyes or cure their shortsightedness or some shit.
ATAlum ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 09:03:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL, they think the glasses work like braces...
Thelatedrpepper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen contacts that sort of do that. You sleep in them and then take them out in the morning. At night they shape your eyeball and then over the course of the day it slowly reverts to its natural shape. Corneal Reshaping Contact Lenses
sbmotoracer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish they did... lol
But seriously how can someone not make the connection between glasses and eyesight....
Tauposaurus ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:54:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So well phrased. Im genuinely screaming at my phone demanding an answer, this is beyond stupud.
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:51:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To look smart. Look at Rick Perry.
guacamoleo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't look smart yet, how long do I have to look at him?
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a poster of him hanging above my computer. My IQ went up 50 points in a week!!
usernumber36 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:07:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because it looks more blurry than it did before they put their glasses on for a while
Tauposaurus ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 06:06:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well on the other hand, I was recently told that I can't get new glasses because, and the optician said this with a straight face in a casual way, We don't have the kind of frames you need because those were only popular a decade ago. They aren't fashionable anymore. So... you have 500 models that are all identical from the same company... but you don't keep a single fucking model with small round frames in case someone needs thick lenses for a high prescription? You know why else people buy glasses for, beside fashion? To FUCKING SEE STUFF. It's fine people, I'll take the thousand dollar you don't want and shove it up my ass.
Did ten places. All of them have the same inventory. Ended up going to a different town after tracking a guy who works for poor communities and skips the middleman of having a building and a staff to provide glasses to people who need them. Guy shows up around town on fixed hours, carries low-end frame models and deals directly with the lab. Thank god for this dude's amazing decisions because otherwise Id be bumbling around with 3 centimeter thick lenses instead of having a semi-functional pair of glasses. Oh, and I saved about 600 bucks too.
ifeelallthefeels ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 08:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you aware of the monopoly on brick and mortar glasses stores? All under one company, Luxxotica, something like that. The answer is to buy online, or do as you did!
Orangejuicel ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:11:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you happen do find out about this in an episode of Adam ruins everything? Cause that's where I heard it.
ifeelallthefeels ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I enjoy that show a lot, but i had first heard it on a 60 minutes piece. Or some other news special.
intrvnsit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:15:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know about Warby Parker and Zenni, right?
And if you want Made in America, Shuron still makes glasses the same way they have been for 30-40 years. Their prices are decent, too: about $100-150 for frames.
Lenses are expensive, though. There's no way around that unless you take your prescription to Asia.
yeah-what ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's sadly true though. It's really hard to find frames to hold smaller lenses currently. I had to replace mine this year after wearing them for 3 years, and even in that time, the size of the lenses has grown. Very annoying for those of us with large prescriptions who don't want to wear coke bottles.
Tauposaurus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:24:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. People will tell you to just ''order online'' but when the spechs, thickness and size are so crucial its not that easy. You want to be able to call a lab guy who makes thickness calculations. You want to know the various options and what they mean in terms of price, weight and uglyness.
notabigmelvillecrowd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vintage stores are often a good source for cheap frames too. The store I used to work at had boxes of them, unpriced sitting in the back, when people came looking for frames we'd let them rifle through. Usually charged $10-$20 for them.
beeyonca ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 01:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did they get glasses in the first place? What do they think the purposes of glasses are?!
kryptn ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 01:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an eye appt soon. I'm using this.
TunaMom20 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 04:22:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the SAME thing as an audiologist about hearing aids. I feel so dumb having to say "these are hearing aids, not hearing cures."
queen_nerveen ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:31:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I get this all the time. It's like they think wearing glasses/contacts for a few months will "cure" the blurry vision.
throwaway201612mlc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20 years ago where I live kids with diopter less than 100 were not fitted glasses "because their eyes would get used to it", eg parents would send kids to get glasses but actively encourage not to wear them. Wtf
Ayve_Butterscotch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, even my boyfriend thought this.. I am wearing glasses since I was 7 and no, it does not just heal!
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:27:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well get the doctor to refill them with medicine.
Fuck me man working in eye care is ridiculous. I feel you.
ShamelessFox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Optician for a decade.
There's a reason I started drinking heavily.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man but our profession did it to ourselves spreading misinformation to appease the almighty dollar, and not standing up for ourselves, reducing us to mere salespeople in a lot of people's eyes. That's why I went to the lab.
Also I am a recovering alcoholic so you might be on to something...
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so true. It's infuriating because you're so often dismissed as being a clueless used car salesman.
sviperll ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a short sighted person and I've alwsys wondered, why there is no research on treatment for short sighted people. I'm not a specialist, but I've always thought that some kind of contact lenses that will stimulate you eye musles with electric discharges sounds promising. But there is no research what so ever, just glasses and contact lenses...
ShamelessFox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't about the muscles. There is an imperfection in the shape of the eye causing the light to stop short of focusing on the retina at the back of the eye. LASIK is really the only treatment.
lookitsnichole ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:41:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well lasic will cure it, so there's that. Plenty of research went into that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah LASIK lasts 10 years max. The shape of your cornea and / or eye causes your condition. The ciliary muscles failure is what causes presbyopia and gives rise to people needing bifocals. LASIK won't fix that at all, but there is tons of research into drug treatments for it actually.
lookitsnichole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know it doesn't last, but it's still a lot more permanent than glasses. Due to the fact that it is known to not last a lot of places will give free "touch ups", so it's a one time investment monetarily.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This simply isn't true. LASIK can last as little as three in some cases and as much as ten, a good pair of glasses can last just as long if not longer, I personally have a pair that is well over 30 years old and still have the original lenses. You'd be surprised to see how many people are denied these "touchups" as well. I'm not saying it isn't without pros to it. And very myopic patients can benefit in that it will reduce their Rx to manageable levels. Plus better peripheral vision. But LASIK creates and artificial lens flare on the cornea, can't be done on everyone, and doesn't fix all vision problems. Only you and your doctor can decide if it's worth it but keep in mind that Lenscrafters will tell you it's bad and LASIK plus will say it's good, so be careful where you get your advice. And bottom line, LASIK does not fix presbyopia at all and if your fortunate to life to a certain age, I.e. 40, you will begin to slide down that road, leading to an inability to focus at varying focal lengths. So you WILL need glasses eventually anyway so LASIK is by no means a life long fix or one time investment.
lookitsnichole ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:21:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how you can possibly say that 30 year old glasses are fine, but that your eyes change enough that LASIK isn't.
Glasses will hold up, but the lenses will not be the proper prescription in a few years, just like your argument with LASIK.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point was that the material can last. The lenses in all likelihood wouldn't be for the original owner, but are not discolored or scratched. My Rx is in them now. Any changes in your Rx within 10 years would require a new glasses Rx OR LASIK touch up. LASIK doesn't magically keep your eyes from changing. In LASIK they use a laser to change the shape of your cornea by removing small material. Your cornea is the part of your eye which does the most refracting, so it's like creating an artificial contact lenses out of your actual organ tissue. The shape of your cornea and in some cases the shape of your eye cause myopia or hyperopia but failure of the cilliary muscle and growing rigidity of the interocular lens cause presbyopia, which is why LASIK doesn't work for that, its laser can't magically tickle a muscle into working orake a lens pliable again. LASIK also cannot fix large astigmatisms.
If Sally needs corrective measures for her vision at an Rx of -3.50 -1.00 x 90 in both eyes she can spend $300 bucks for glasses that will give her an effective Rx of 0.00 or perfect vision. Or she can get LASIK, never deal with glasses possibly breaking or contacts, rxs or docs. But her Rx will be 0.00 -0.50 x 90. 20/20 vs 20/25. A decision people make all the time with contacts. The LASIK will roughly cost 1500 bucks. Five years later Sally with glasses notices vision changes and gets new lenses for 200 bucks. LASIK Sally notices them too and maybe they can be corrected with a touch up, free. Glasses are still cheaper. Or maybe the doctor can remove no more corneal material without risking corneal errosion to the patient. So Sally with LASIK gets glasses and pays 300 for them. If Sally's problem is presbyopia then her LASIK surgeon my try to fix it with a mono vision proceedure or do the right thing and tell her to get glasses. Or try monovision in contacts for a year anyway. LASIK Sally still spent more money and had riskier options.
Does that make more sense? I didn't mean to be unclear or disengenious and again only a doctor can make this decision with you. I just find people really don't understand LASIK. If looks and convienence are important to you then fire away. No judgement. LASIK is great. But glasses are far more practical.
CanuckSalaryman ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:40:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go in because things are fuzzy when I wear them.
DrSleepingBeauty ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had patients think that glasses actually make their vision worse and so they try not to wear them all the time.
ehabanks ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, yes. This one. All the damn time!
zer0nix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a very common belief among 1st generation Asians.
Even Michio Kaku had this belief as recently as a few years ago.
there must be something to not using the focusing muscles inside the eye, but at the same time ones life is so much improved by being able to see well that you'd think they would just wear the glasses and then perform eye exercises...
Onechange072 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:29:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explain this to me. If they don't make your eyes worse, why did my optometrist tell me not to wear mine all the time, rather only when I need them? She said it wasn't good for my eyes. I wore them all the time out of convenience (before I got contacts), but was convinced that I was making my eyes worse. My eyes haven't changed in 10 years, so I obviously wasn't, but I don't understand why she would make it seem like it was damaging when it really isn't??
SmallFemale ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 08:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're only slightly myopic the more you wear your glasses, the more you enjoy your HD vision. During your next eye exam your might indicate you want more minus with your answers, artificially increasing your prescription and causing the axial length of the eye to change shape.
Also young patients with hyperopia have something called accomodation, meaning they're able to add power to their eyes. This 'runs out' as you age. So she may reccommend you only wear glasss for close work, for example, as your eyes may get strained during this period (as your eyes need more power anyway for close work, so combine that with a plus prescription anyway, and your eyes are going overtime!). So basically, in the distance young hyperopes are able to cope without needed their glasses as they can use their accomodation. Wearing glasses relaxes this, but it can be argued that this again, increases dependence and prescription power.
yeah-what ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:59:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I have to argue with my 9yo about whether or not she needs to wear her glasses sometimes. She tries to tell me she sees fine without them (I'm sure she does, as did I when I was young). I have to remind her about the months of being a pirate (patching) and that if she wants to see properly out of both eyes (one +2 and one +4), she needs to wear the glasses every day.
SmallFemale ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it's very important to keep up with amblyopia prevention!!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can confirm this from experience. I've got glasses but I've got no problems functioning without them, except for the banging headache I'll develop after a few hours of work.
SmallFemale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worth getting some specs to alleviate it! :) You'll need start to need glasses the older you get, as accommodation declines.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wear them permanently anyway, the last thing I want is to give myself a migraine. It just means that I don't have to deal with the problem of not being able to see where my glasses are when I wake up.
TaffyGoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great thing to have read. Makes a lot more sense out of what one of my eye doctors said to me. Was having headaches while focusing on things within two feet of my face with glasses on, he said something about the extra effort for close up focusing. Lenses just exacerbating that effort I suppose?
Not annoying to have them on and off all the time, but it is annoying that people who should know better don't pay attention to this and then try to show me things while they are across the room and I am only two-eyed.
Xinectyl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had my optometrist straight up tell me the same damn thing. Only to wear them when I needed to read something for a long period of time. I was like 12 at the time, so okay. Then in a year when I went back to get reexamined (by a different, competent doctor), when we mentioned that first visit, he was completely dumbfounded. Couldn't believe his colleague told someone who was getting their first pair of glasses and didn't know any different, something like that. First doctor also had done something to my prescription to make them more like reading glasses, and if I wore them while not reading, or looking at something up close, I had a very real chance of running into something. Big waste of $400. So got this new pair at 13, which worked well, then another pair at 16, and I've pretty much had the same prescription for the last 9 years. And I no longer run into furniture or walls.
That first doctor tries to get me in for a visit every year still. :/
Brooktipus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:07:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in an opticians, and I found that a very large amount of people didn't understand how eyes or glasses work, even though they've been told numerous times. Glasses don't cure your eyesight issues, they just get the best out of what you have. Also lots of older people would come in and complain about not being able to see as well as they could 20 years ago, and apparently that's our fault. 20 years ago you probably didn't have grey hair and could still get erections. Your body deteriorates with age, and your eyes are no different.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid, "four eyes" was still a real insult in elementary school, so I refused to wear my glasses. My eyesight got better between that time and the next time, so kid me was convinced that glasses were damaging. Adult me isn't so stupid and doesn't do anything without glasses.
James_Gastovsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember correctly I always got prescription for a tiny bit weaker glasses that I would need for "1080p" vision, so I'm not sure if it completely doesn't matteer
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:05:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must answer us, why do they think they wear glasses? I remember going back in a year after my first pair saying I need an exam because now things are still blurry with my glasses on.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:55:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tenocticatl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How would that work? Would the glasses "train" their eyes to focus properly or something?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's how braces work, no?
Tenocticatl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad once had an elastic band installed around his eye (to aid in healing a detached retina), which squeezed his eye in a way that also meant he didn't need to use his glasses. That would be a little like braces for your eyes.
rssmrry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:20:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never called them out on it as such, I've always just explained that I expect their vision to improve with the specs and that finding the vision worse without specs would be considered normal. For people with low prescriptions (these tend to be the group most likely to comment on worse vision after removing specs) I tend to go into a bit more detail; that because their unaided vision is still functional (though suboptimal) they can leave their specs off long enough to get some degree of adaptation to blur (making them feel their vision is actually a bit better), but putting the glasses on negates the need for this adaptation to blur, so the next time they remove their specs, the adaptation is gone and they feel the vision is worse.
I have patients that come in because they're lonely and don't really have any problems, but none of them have ever commented on this issue. I truly believe that those highlighting it during their exam (or presenting as their main concern) are genuine and not malingering or taking the piss!
sapphiric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This legit made me laugh out loud.
Poopyoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...how did they get glasses in the first place then...???
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or maybe they're there because they crave the company and the human interaction and will grasp at any excuse to justify their visit.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"These glasses don't work! Everything is blurry! ......wait, are they supposed to work if I still have my contacts in?"
rssmrry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also had someone rock up for a sight test wearing their contact lenses (bought online without any fitting of course) and not tell me. I tend to refract first then do the health checks after. Took me longer than I'd like to admit to figure out why they'd gone from being really short sighted to moderately longsighted.
I now specifically check my patients don't have any lenses in when I'm refracting them for glasses!!
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ten years as an optician(ABO/NCLE and state licensed) and I never ceased to be amazed at people who wanted to argue with me about these simple things. "Well I've been wearing glasses for 40 years!" Yeah? Well I did over 1,000 orders for glasses alone in just the last year. I've got a fucking clue.
"I wear my contacts over night for three months at a shot all the time!" Yeah? Enjoy having those lenses scraped out of your eyes.
Then there was the woman who complained that she couldn't believe " a simple retinal detachment could cause this much trouble".
I need to go find a wall to bang my head on.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jaw drops I... I can't even... regularly? What on earth do they think glasses are for?
Blaze_fox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... uhm...
yes thats why we GAVE YOU THOSE GLASSES
GrumpyBert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex (together for 7-8 years at that moment) got glasses prescripted (she discovered she was shortsighted). I was in awe when she told me "Oh, everything looks SO SHARP!". She lived in a blurry world for years...
Cynical_Walrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they mean it's more blurry when they take them off than right before they put them on? Could just be a perception thing and thinking wearing the glasses is making their vision more blurry.
5up3rj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:38 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no! I have it too
fhetw ยท 681 points ยท Posted at 23:46:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
During residency in an urban NE USA city, I was in clinic. A very pleasant 50s something lady came in for a physical. Everything was going fine when she casually asks if there are any new vaccines out. She was up to date with everything so I asked if she had any specific concerns. She was casually asking to see if she could vaccinate her gay adult son against homosexuality. Very nice, always had a smile on her face, even when I broke the "bad" news to her.
KDBA ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 01:58:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what it says about me that the thing that bothers me most is that vaccines are preventative, so even if one did exist you wouldn't give it to someone you already know is gay.
IcedJack ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 07:22:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It probably says you're not too surprised by examples of homophobia, and value factual information. So good on you, mate.
LaughterIsEverything ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:16:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Nebraskan this is not a surprise.
RadarLakeKosh ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:32:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As another (former) Nebraskan I found myself wondering if OP meant Nebraska, USA or Northeast USA. Either way, not surprised either.
1-2-3-it-is-not-me ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I third this. Facepalm, NE, facepalm.
KOTORdisbo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:10:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The N is for knowledge. (Funnier when spoken aloud).
schu2470 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:53 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From context I actually think they were at a clinic in a north-eastern US city. I could very well have been somewhere in the Pennsyltucky area.
for_the_winners ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:30:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you work her up for incipient dementia?
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:58:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
did you tell her there's a vaccine against homophobic morons? she's in dire need.
WoefulMe ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 02:24:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah like /u/KDBA said, vaccines are preventative, so she's shit out of luck.
Fidesphilio ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:19:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that one just a syringe full of air tho?
xgravity23 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Air embolism FTW
jhsorsma ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:06:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not homophobic, just desperate for grandbabies.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 03:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have given her an empty syringe and told her to inoculate herself intravenously.
iynque ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:58:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems at least as harsh as killing someone for being gay ๐
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being gay isn't a choice; being a piece of shit is.
iynque ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 05:24:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think a strong argument could be made that she never made a choice to think gay people could be somehow medically cured. At the very least, I wouldn't go for "kill her for her ignorance" as my first course of action. Maybeโฆ try to explain it to her first?
superswellcewlguy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So not wanting your child to be gay makes you a piece of shit?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:47:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the context of this dumb twat, yes.
PM_ME_PICS_OF_HANDS ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:33:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I'm gay, and that lady sounds like a decent person who unfortunately has misconception about homosexuality. If my own mother was like that, I'd be perfectly fine because 1) at least she understands that being gay is not by choice. 2) she's not desperately seeking the cure.
PM_ME_PICS_OF_HANDS ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:53:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't seem like she made a conscious choice to be homophobic.
bless_ure_harte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:22 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck
Warningwaffle ยท 477 points ยท Posted at 04:41:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient comes to ER, 19 year old male, I'm getting his history. Why are you here today? "Every morning when I wake up my stomach hurts." How long has it been hurting? "All my life." Well what is different today that's made you come here? "My girlfriend doesn't think that is normal." More questions, exam by ER physician, lab tests. The abdominal pain always goes away after he eats. Always. He wakes up hungry. He thinks it is pain.
xgravity23 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 11:18:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I have had hunger pangs so strong I would call them painful, like a 6 on a scale of 10 painful. I can't figure out what makes my hungry stomach hurt so much on certain days. I fast 2-4 days occasionally, and it doesn't hurt as much during the fast as on these weird days. Maybe he has that sort of pain every day?
Friday9 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:20:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. And the pain causes nausea which kills my appetite.
...My body has some issues.
A_Drusas ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:16:52 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have acid reflux, which can cause nausea when my stomach's too empty. Vicious cycle! Solution: Don't get hungry.
Morrigan_Cross ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:52:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you fast 2-4 days?
xgravity23 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:55:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At first, for health reasons. There are some studies that suggest eating fewer calories extends your life or some hooey like that. Then I saw that House of Cards ep where the gay Russian activist fasts for 10 days in protest, and I started wondering how long I could go. Turns out it's 4 days if I have to work and live a normal life (i.e. Move around and burn energy a lot). Now I do it for 2-3 days just to reset my overeating habits 2-3 times a year. I'm getting better slowly, and I think fasting to become comfortable with the hunger feeling is part of that progression.
poppy-fields ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:22:45 on April 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think this is healthy.
alex_moose ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:33:10 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter was confused about stomach pain vs. hunger. I finally realized this when she was 5 and had stomach flu; she'd start begging and screaming for something to eat (which I refused), vomit a few minutes later, then feel better. That helped me realize she had frequent stomach pain and I eventually figured out she's sensitive to dairy and gluten. Cut those out and started a re-education campaign to help her learn hunger vs upset stomach.
ryanlrussell ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:29:32 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Applied extreme palpitation to patient's abdomen with closed hand to provide patient with proper pain level reference."
Dogzillas_Mom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:14:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is funny to me because I think my dog confuses hunger for belly ache. She eats grass when she's hungry. It never makes her puke. I feed her after the walk and blammo. She's fine.
TheMeaningOfInsanity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I'm in class and I'm dying laughin.
c_girl_108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:05 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has lupus, fibro myalgia and is double jointed (leading to my joints, what's left of them, constantly dislocating or partially dislocating themselves from everyday activities) not to mention many old ballet injuries that never healed properly, the fact that they think hunger is pain is laughable. There are a lot of people who if they spent a day in my body they'd have a new perspective
fragilelyon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:38:19 on January 30, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you heard of Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome by chance?
c_girl_108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:26 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. What is that?
fragilelyon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:56:05 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a genetic disorder that causes joint pain and dislocations, often misdiagnosed as Fibromyalgia. What you described sounds very familiar.
[deleted] ยท 3368 points ยท Posted at 21:51:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dropzoffire ยท 3882 points ยท Posted at 23:40:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Uncle John (now 84) lived on a farm for 3/4 of his life. He never went to the doctor, all he ate is what he grew / slaughtered, drank well water (untreated for years), etc.
Eventually, he was taken to the doctors by my family, now that we don't live at the farm house anymore.
He was riddled with tapeworms. He had no idea. The dude could eat like 4 plates a meal. We always thought it was because he worked so hard. I'm sure that attributed to it, but still. It was the tapeworms.
Physically, he was ripped. Absolutely a pile of muscle on a skeleton, wrapped in leathery, sun-dried skin. Incredible shape for an aging man.
Now that the worms are gone, he's fat and has diabetes.
Poor Uncle John. :(
Edit: other than being fat and having diabetes, he's pretty healthy and lives a good life. He's being taken care of by my mother, who treats him well.
DoctorKarmaWhore ยท 1520 points ยท Posted at 00:36:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like that futurama episode.
eatcherveggies ยท 222 points ยท Posted at 03:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good news, Uncle John! You're riddled with tapeworms!
Dropzoffire ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 03:39:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this in the right voice. Bravo!
Norass411 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so, OP'S comment?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Other than him havin' cancer, he cool..." -- Beast (voice of Randy Hayes), "J2: The Juggernaut Bitch", My Way Entertainment
LiliVonSchtupp ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 03:36:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ancestors came over on the sandwich.
littlebitsofspider ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 05:25:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wanna know what makes special sauce so special? Yo.
musical_throat_punch ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:46:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pronounced Co'lon
_Keldt_ ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 03:13:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just recently finished the series and I don't know which episode you're referring to..
Anyone care to remind me?
Edit: It's Parasites Lost, and I do actually remember it. Googling "futurama tapeworm episode" brought it up.
Virisenox_ ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 03:18:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one where Fry ate an egg salad sandwich that he got out of a vending machine at a truck stop and it gave him worms that fixed up his body and made him more intelligent. S3E2: Parasites Lost.
_Keldt_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I actually found it myself with a little googling. I do actually remember that episode now.
Mad_Mab ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone knows a good site to download/stream futurama episodes?
Dropzoffire ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Netflix :D
sneakyplanner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:16:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No longer has most seasons available.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what.. I haven't finished
yellowz32tt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:04:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one's my go-to for any cartoon: http://watchcartoonsonline.eu/watch-futurama-season-5-full-episodes-online-free/
But also Netflix, or Popcorn Time
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Install Kodi and get the Exodus plugin. Anything you can think of is probably in there.
Champigne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my favorite episodes.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:15:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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_Keldt_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I actually found it myself with a little googling. I do actually remember that episode now.
Hargemouch ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:23:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fry never should have gotten rid of those worms.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:40:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fry: Of all the parasites I've had over the years, these worms are among the... hell, they are the best.
UnblurredLines ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:09:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer the Boston Paradise Diet from ATHF.
Orang3Lazaru5 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:04:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOUTH BRONX PARADISE BABY
MissBloom1111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until the next time you go to McDonald's!
sinetybrit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EXACTLY THAT!! I need some fucking tape worms I'm sure they give you super powers but the government don't want us to know ๐
LetThereBeNick ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 01:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a good nephew you will slip him a tapeworm
Dropzoffire ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 02:06:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna stick with letting him have an extra root beer when he comes to my place, but thanks for the idea. Haha
shapu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not both?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Por que no los dos?
Siz27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can roofie his root beer with a tapeworm.
hail_gort ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:30:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
c'mon kid, Uncle John just needs a little taste
Xephel_Arlen ยท 289 points ยท Posted at 01:22:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he also continue to eat 4 plates a meal? Cause, just putting this out there, over eating is the leading cause of gaining weight.
Dropzoffire ยท 425 points ยท Posted at 01:54:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably could eat about 3 plates worth now, if we let him. Fortunately, his diet is controlled pretty well. My mother takes good care of him. She let's him get away with it on holidays and such, because food really makes him happy. Who are we to deny that from a man who busted his ass his whole life and just asks for a little bit of happiness?
He's such a great guy, and like I said, aside from the diabetes and weight gain, he's doing really well. Farm life is all he knows, so my mother got him a chicken coop with a dozen chickens. He takes care of them every day. He even mows the lawn still, sometimes. Of course, it's because he wants to, not because he "has" to. And my mother controls that stuff, too. His body is 84, but his mind is 40. He is always wanting to push himself too far. Haha, such a great guy.
coldfusionpuppet ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 02:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah to be able to putter around taking care of chickens as an oldie, that would be awesome. I'm glad you guys love him.
WeirdStray ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds so heart warming :)
kissmeinoctober ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:29:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm starting to get attached
GiveHerTheWorks ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:33:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww, I'm glad your mom got him the chicken coop, that's so nice and heartwarming. :)
Intensly_Meh ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 05:52:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
honestly, at 84, he can eat what ever he fucking wants. Hes won at that point.
AziMeeshka ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:58:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too many people try to do it the wrong way around, they don't take care of themselves when they are young and try in vain to get in shape when they see old age creeping up on them.
Beta1548 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. My goal is to take great care of myself until I make it to the national average life expectancy (which is what, about 78 for men?) then after I hit that point I am going to be the most gluttonous bastard there ever was.
TsarKeith12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:43:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, that's like my life goal right there.
roostar9000 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:28:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/wholesomememes
CommandersLog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lets
Etherius ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:09:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently not if you team up with tapeworms!
whopperofhotdogs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once you've eaten like that your whole life with no negative effects, it would be really hard to change
LaPiscinaDeLaMuerte ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:23:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Are you kidding me? That could be why I'm fat?
CBSU ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit?
seanthestone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:32:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've learned on the internet, you are incorrect. The amount you eat and any exercise is irrelevant because your genetics determine your exact weight and any doctor that disagrees is oppressing you. /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah right, next you're going to tell me that the Earth is round and that pineapples grow on the ground. Get out of here
demostravius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is more to gaining and losing weight than simple quantity of food eaten. Lets say you require 3000 calories of food to maintain your weight. I can make you gain, or lose weight depending on what sort of food you eat, it also depends on the person.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, I was trying to make a stupid joke
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, lots of people don't get that what you eat matters as much as how much you eat. I must correct everyone on the internet!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No problem :)
grizzlyftw ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 01:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God damnit them tapeworms were the only thing holding uncle John's ripped muscles in place!
Dropzoffire ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:58:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If tape worms were aliens, he was their home planet, dude.
moneyparty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude
Dropzoffire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude?
Weekndr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:58:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude!
splelling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially considering some of those tape worms could be older than most people in this thread.
(I don't know how long tape worms live)
[deleted] ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So... technically, it was working for him
Dropzoffire ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 02:09:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not so certian that it was actually the tapeworms that made him so fit, because I know how hard he worked. He could have done that all on his own. However, I do feel like the tapeworms are what made it so that he could eat so much, and still want dessert afterwards.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dropzoffire ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 02:01:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's still a superhero! If anything, he's certiantly my hero. Literally the most active elderly person I've ever known. And of course, theres tons of stories I have with him from growing up...Such a great guy.
VegatarianT-Rex ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:16:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reading all of that makes me really happy. I'm glad your Uncle is your hero, he sounds like a great guy.
Dropzoffire ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:44:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should do an AMA about him.
"My elderly uncle had tapeworms for most of his life and is an all around great dude. AMA!"
Haha, for real though, thanks. I had no idea people would be so interested about him. Makes me really happy.
bigmoneybitches ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a great person too op!
gothika4622 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want a full biography, not just an AMA
Dropzoffire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll ask his permission, if you're serious. I really think that people would enjoy his story. He's had a really crazy life, and is pretty much the closest thing to a saint in real life.
gothika4622 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am 100% serious
coldfusionpuppet ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:28:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the takeaway lesson is, tapeworm tablets are my next naturopathic shield against diabetes and obesity. I just knew the "establishment" was keeping some golden nugget from me.
RdmGuy64824 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:26:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used to sell them as a weight loss remedy.
http://www.diet-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/import/i-25fb0330dba1c3a503b7245a047d6d58-tapeworms.jpg
herrschmetterling ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:45:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This always gives me a chuckle. At least they were sanitized!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:10:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Helminthic therapy could be a thing in the future. Basic thought is that, because parasites have been so ubiquitous evolutionarily, we've co-evolved with them to the point that improved hygiene and a lack of parasites makes our immune system confused. Same might be true with the systems in the body responsible for metabolic regulation, where it's been proven that gut bacterial flora affects it (one of the seminar leaders I had in an infection course said he basically considered the gut flora to be an endocrine organ). Evolution is fascinating stuff.
Fergom ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:43:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i got a crazy new treatment for him. How about we give him tapeworms
tavissd1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the worms from Futurama!!!!!
Madmeerkat55 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:07:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOUTH BRONX PARADISE!
BlueBokChoy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:28:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Carl, it's south bronx parasite.
cryptoengineer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:56:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is serious research suggesting that some parasites are more symbiotes - that hookworms may help prevent autoimmune disease, and some other may aid in pregnancy. Both these ideas weird me out:
https://blogs.commons.georgetown.edu/journal-of-health-sciences/2012/10/21/infected-or-cured-hookworms-used-to-treat-autoimmune-conditions/
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/11/intestinal-worms-may-help-women-get-pregnant-more-often
Dropzoffire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really wild! Thanks for sharing!
cryptoengineer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is still far from established medicine. Don't rely on it.
Dropzoffire ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:52:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, shit. I was already on my way to the parasites & tapeworm emporium. haha :)
Ginger-saurus-rex ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:08:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: other than being incredibly unhealthy, he's pretty healthy.
Dropzoffire ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 01:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody said he was incredibly unhealthy. He's 84. If the only health issues I have by the time I'm even 70 are just weight and diabetes, I'd be a happy, happy fat guy.
He leads a very active lifestyle for someone who is nearly a century old. He mows the lawn, tends to the chickens, walks the dogs, all kinds of stuff. He does it because he wants to, by the way. Not because he has to. These things are what really makes him happy. Farm life is all he knows, and damn it, he's good at it. It's a shame to watch him not be able to do the things he loves anymore.
But yeah. He's still healthy. Controlled diet, exercise, etc...he keeps his health problems as little of problems as possible.
Pretty sure if I told him you said he was "incredibly unhealthy", he'd punch you in the face. :D
pokeysrevenge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:15 on February 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want your uncle to be my uncle. He sounds awesome.
pokexchespin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Through the Internet?
Dropzoffire ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:41:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's. Just. That. Awesome.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fist goes through the screen and right out the other side.
pokexchespin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured
EPIKGUTS24 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:41:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
considering 84 yo being fat with diabetes is pretty healthy
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He can still maintain a healthy diet and get as much exercise as an 84 year old can.
Singular_Thought ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well give him his tapeworms back.
Slip some in a glass of water.
;)
flyymela ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super tapeworms...took all his strength when they were killed!
Bitter_Bert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminded me of this... The Potential Health Benefits of Parasitic Gut Worms
Evolution is a crazy thing.
send_me_your_calm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After losing the tapeworms, he would have had to vastly restrict his diet, or getting fat would be inevitable.
arenalr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, sounds like it might have been best to let him live out the rest of his life with them in. But then again, I'm sure there's more to it than this
Dropzoffire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure he misses them. Haha, I don't even know how they got rid of them. I'm sure it was some kind of antibiotic or something similar.
vitalmoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explain that! /u/brighteyesandpotatos !
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a beautiful symbiosis.
mmmolives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, I find this hard to believe. Don't they know the whole back-country tapeworm cure? You get good & hungry, then fix a plate of collard greens but don't eat them! Hold them up to your mouth until the tape worm is lured by the smell of food & starts heading up your esophagus. As soon as possible grab that fucker by the head & yank it out!
(I honestly don't know if this is a rural urban legend or not but it was told to me in all seriousness.)
participantator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is real research going on with this and maybe you are right. Check out helminthic therapy.
spockspeare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wouldn't the tapeworms also give him chronic diarrhea? you can't just eat a pile of food and not gain weight and it turns into sparkles in the sunlight or something. the mass of it has to go somewhere. and if you're not digesting it, out it goes.
Dropzoffire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, yes, there's a sad story to go along with that.
The farmhouse was owned by my Uncle John and his Brother Jim, who I didn't really know before he passed away. Also, he's an uncle by marriage, not blood, so this doesn't get confusing. My grandmother was married to Jim. Jim passed away, and my grandmother effectively took over the house. My uncle John's unfortunate bathroom problems led to my grandmother essentially forcing him to use the bathroom outside. There was an outhouse about 300 feet from the main house that he would walk to, every time he had to do his business.
We love uncle john very much, but there is also a great deal of pain in our family history. My grandmother was incredibly abusive to Uncle John, because she believed he was mentally retarded. Having grown up on the farm, he was not literate. He couldn't read or write, and had a hard time speaking up for himself. He basically gave up and became her slave.
I know this all sounds super whacked out and difficult to believe, but none of it is fabricated. It's just really...unfortunate.
Lioness90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like it would be pretty hard not to notice you are riddled with tapeworms when tapeworm segments are probably wriggling out of your asshole.
Dropzoffire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't there to quiz him every time he took a shit. I'm just essentially regurgitating the stories I've been told, growing up.
-zara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I should get tapeworms.
Dropzoffire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the only side effect to having tapeworms was weightloss, the whole world would be doing it.
There are plenty of problems that come along with it, such as chronic diarheeah, bacterial and viral infections, and the possibility of worms getting into other parts of your body, such as your brain.
I wouldn't recommend it.
-zara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, I was kidding lmao.
Wooper160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have kept the worms
sunsetreset ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Now that he stopped living and working on a farm he's fat and has diabetes.
BeardsuptheWazoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your post makes me want tapeworms
turn_king ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you grow to be late-60's full of tape worms it may actually be better to leave them in than try to change ones dietary and exercise habits at that age.
Frostblazer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The irony of him seeming (at least on an exterior level) to be less healthy after getting the parasites removed. Life's like that sometimes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dropzoffire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the hospital, just regular doctors visits.
Renyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is an idea that because we have co-evolved with parasites, completely eradicating them can cause problems. There was a study done where sine patients with gastrointestinal problems were given parasites (pretty sure it was tapeworms) and most of them improved.
justnodalong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
aw sounds like the worms and he were one
blackeneth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet recently, parasitic worms have been studied as a method to modulate the immune system.
Helminthic therapy
Theghost129 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The crux of technology :(
For every 1 problem it solves, it creates 9 more
curiousiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great, now I'm terrified I have tapeworms and don't know it.
beginner_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The diabetes was in the making already when eating that much. getting fat is obvious if you remove tapeworms.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the cure for diabetes and obestity are tapeworms, you could sell it
welcometodumpsville ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So tapeworms DO work for weight loss...hmmm ๐ค
Organak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is the plot to a murderbilly song
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am simultaneously disgusted and amazed
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually an evolutionary theory called the Old Friends Hypothesis, that could explain your Uncle John.
The idea is that because humans evolved to deal with helminth parasites, our body expects them to be present in some form and freaks out when they are absent. Helminths have a huge influence on our immune system (it's how they prevent the immune system from killing them off). Without the helminths present to suppress the immune system (natural or expected state), you end up with a hyperactive immune system leading to autoimmune or immunomodulated diseases like asthma and diabetes. Of course, some helminths cause disease and are problematic. The idea is that (like gut bacteria) there are also some 'old friend' helminths out there that you don't want to get rid of. Or you end up like your Uncle John.
Cr3s3ndO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Body builders HATE him! Simple farmer discovers 1 weird tip to getting RIPPED!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Contributed. Just so you know!
The appetite can be attributed to his hearty lifestyle, so the lifestyle contributed to the appetite.
thaspaceturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those gosh darn docters.
Splendidissimus ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 23:54:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tapeworms were a fad diet in (I think) the late 1800s or early 1900s. So at least your weird patient had provenance.
OneGoodRib ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:46:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and they came with a pill or something you were supposed to take to kill the tapeworm when you were satisfied with your weight.
mynameismilton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jockeys were a big fan.
missgumichan ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 22:37:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After watching monsters inside me, why would anyone want that, just get a treadmill and eat healthier.
twlscil ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 22:49:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eat less calories. Eating healthier is great for your health, but eating 4000 healthy calories a day won't cause weight loss.
SourNotesRockHardAbs ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:34:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a shit ton of kale.
twlscil ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:36:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nuts are high in calories and healthy. 5 cups of almonds would do it.
irisheye37 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a shit ton of almonds. Just go get a big mac.
Kirboid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
with extra spaghetti sauce!
SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:13 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a shit ton of mac. Just go get a small mac.
pokexchespin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:38:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather eat 80 cups of berries
ZacQuicksilver ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:24:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what you're eating.
If you're eating a low amount of calories a day, and having weight issues and/or dealing with constant hunger, and not dealing with a medical condition (thyroid, ovarian cysts, etc.), eating healthy is the right option.
If you're eating a lot of calories, eating healthier can help you not feel so hungry, which helps you eat less. But you're right that unless you also eat less (or exercise more), you won't lose weight.
And the "exercise more" is an option. The most anyone is on record for eating over an extended period of time is Michael Phelps, leading up to his first Olympics. At the time, he was on a 10 000+ calorie diet, and literally spent weeks doing nothing but swimming, eating, and sleeping, with a little hygiene time in between.
Edit: added a point about medical conditions. Thank you /u/dynamojess.
CyberneticPanda ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:06:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have friends who talk about how they're going to exercise more instead of eating less. That's only an option if you're already in peak physical condition, though. A regular person will drop from exhaustion before they burn 10,000 calories in a day. If you're plotting to lose weight by exercising instead of dieting, chances are good you can't maintain high impact aerobic exercise for half an hour, but even if you manage to do it without blowing out a knee or something, you've only burned around 300-400 calories, or about 1-2 cookies worth.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:46:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be surprised how much of a difference even a little exercise will provide.
Current estimates are that fat burns about 2 calories per day per pound, and muscle, 5. This means that if you add a once-a-week exercise routine that burns 350 calories (50/day, on average) and in the process add 2 pounds of muscle, you will eventually stabilize 28 pounds lighter: 30 pounds of fat lost. The only issue is the speed: 10 weeks for the first pound lost.
Probably the best way to lose weight (if all you care about is losing weight, and not the whole "living healthy" thing) and keep it off is a short-term diet to lose weight quickly, combined with an exercise routine to keep the weight off.
CyberneticPanda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:01:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're missing some units from your "current estimates." Also, the best way to lose weight and keep it off is to adopt healthier lifestyle habits, not a crash diet with an exercise routine.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, corrected.
CyberneticPanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see how the math works out in your example still, even with the units. If you lost 28 pounds of fat and gained 2 pounds of muscle and were burning 350 (plus 10 from the muscle) calories more than you consume every week, you'd have a net calorie deficit of 304 per week, and you'd lose a pound every 3 months or so.
In real life though, it is trivially easy to eat an extra 350 (or 3500) calories if you're not paying attention to what you're eating. Exercise is extremely important for health, but it's not really an effective way to lose weight, and more importantly, people who want to exercise without dieting want to do that because their diet is bad and they don't want to change it, so they're likely to have much more than a 350 per week calorie excess, and they're also more likely to reward themselves for working out with food.
(edit) if you lose 30 lbs of fat, not 28, your calorie deficit using your numbers would be 300, not 304. Still losing about a pound every 3 months.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at calories/day.
350 calories/week is 50 calories/day. Given the current approximation that 3500 calories is about 1 pound, that means it will take 70 days - 10 weeks - to lose 1 pound.
However, having lost that pound, you will now only be short 48 calories/day; meaning it will take about 73 days - 10.5 weeks - to lose the next pound. The one after that will take 76, then 80, and so on.
And those times are slightly optimistic: it's not like you magically lose the pound at the end of that time.
My apologies for switching between days and weeks there.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:40:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're actually consistently eating a low amount of calories, you cannot be having weight issues.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:59:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Kkaze882 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to jump in here.
That biggest loser study is a steaming pile of "Scientist wants to get famous so let's invent a conclusion"
They invented, and I'm not using hyperbole or anything, they literally invented a new way of predicting what these obese people's BMR should be using the biggest losers starting BMR as their only data input. Which, btw, is retarded. Calorie expenditure is way out of wack for morbidly obese people, they burn even more calories than there size would suggest and these people built a predictive model on the outliers of society whilst ignoring the 10+ other predictive models based on massive population studies??
There is so much more wrong with that study, and as a grad student it pisses me off to no end seeing a group butcher science to get theirs names published in a newspaper Excellent Blog that goes into more detail
zodar ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:44:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WTF? That's not even close to accurate.
1900-2000 calories per day is perfectly normal. That study was publicized to make fat people feel better about not trying to lose weight.
Ginglymostoma ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:06:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. When I read the science on how drastic weight loss shifts metabolic rate, it made so much more sense.
I lost a large amount of weight about ten years ago. Ever since, my "maintenance" calorie needs (with moderate exercise, walking a few miles a day) are about 1200 a day. More than that I gain weight. Less than that, I lose weight, but it's VERY hard to cut calories when you're already only eating 1200 a day for maintenance. And I'm semi-OCD about food tracking - every thing that enters my mouth goes in the log.
Well, almost everything. ;)
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anyone here has been on the Biggest Loser and has a medical condition due to it.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:54:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's the obvious problem with your statement: anorexia and low body weight are "weight issues", and are caused by eating a low amount of calories.
However, eating a proper mix of micronutrients can help metabolic rate, which can result in losing weight despite no change in exercise routine or caloric intake.
Now, a person with poor micronutrient intake and low caloric intake isn't going to be 300lbs, but that doesn't mean they won't have issues with weighing too much.
dynamojess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
False. Many medical conditions do not allow you to lose weight even if you are on a low calorie diet and exercising. First one that comes to mind is PCOS. Source, am overweight female with ovarian cysts. Watched weight climb for the last decade despite regular hard exercise and a low cal diet full of fruits and veggies. Had softball sized cysts removed. Now eating more than ever and dropping weight.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. I should have added "barring medical condition".
Edit: I have added...
centurion_celery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's hard to when trying to go to smaller portions and not snacking as much only for the lack of food to cause you severe stomach pains to the point of needing to vomit
twlscil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you need to eat food higher in fiber... I would also suppliment with psyllium husk powder or metamucil. Makes you feel full...
You may also have GERD if you are overweight, consult with your doctor or try taking some OTC acid reducers such as Pepcid AC.
FGHIK ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I could... but exercise is boring, and unhealthy food is tasty...
BlueBokChoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun cheats!
Wall climbing is a puzzle you solve with your body
Diet fizzy drinks are about 3 calories a glass.
Toad in the hole is 2 sausages in a fuckload of batter. 450 calories (auntie bassies frozen)
Diet jelly is 5 calories a pot.
Various cold cuts are about 200 cals for 150~ grams.
If all else fails, supermarket pizza and 5 doughnuts are about 2000 calories. Gorge on this and eat nothing else all day.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:58:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are lazy
Falecon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, that show caused my squeamishness
OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's way easier to just consume a parasite that will consume all food for you which causes you to lose weight while you can just go about your normal Victorian or Edwardian era business without doing anything else?
I mean if you ignore the downsides or just aren't aware of them, it sounds really awesome. Just swallow this worm and you can eat all you want and the worm will take care of all the calories for you! You don't have to do anything except kill the tapeworm eventually, if you want!
Clarification: That's just the logic, I'm not actually defending the use of a tapeworm. Don't do it.
Etherius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Just stop taking heroin. How hard can it be?!"
That's what you sound like. To literally everyone who is or has ever been overweight and struggled with it for years.
I would never eat a tapeworm, but I DID take 2, 4-DNP
BlueBokChoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty intense. How did it go? How long did you take it?
Etherius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well enough. It's ridiculously uncomfortable to be constantly sweating. You always feel overextended. But it definitely works
missgumichan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I've been overweight too and now find myself overweight again after having a kid. I didn't mean to come off like that and I do know the troubles of struggling with weight. I've never ever even considered a parasite, I know the only way and to keep it off is a healthy balanced diet and some exercise and that can be a hard mentality and lifestyle to maintain or even start.
dragoongirl1990 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:34:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People have actually died from intentionally swallowing tape works for weight loss. I freaking hate the thought of neurocysticercosis... I mean... Worms in your brain... Ew.... But I still think burning to death would be worse.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:26:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dragoongirl1990 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:51:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's definitely some form of mental illness right there
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:37:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thaaaaat wasn't a tapeworm
scoobdrew ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:55:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate dieting! I hate it so much! I hate this worm inside of me!
DrMonkeyLove ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
- Michael Scott
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit, Creed.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:13:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love their first idea to lose weight was to eat something disgusting.
--CaptainPlanet-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
depends on the type of tapeworm to be honest.
BananaSplit2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it depends on which species of tapeworm. The most common species in the western world is Taenia saginata which doesn't cause cystercercosis in humans (it does in cows). Taenia solium does though.
GhastlyKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like catching Giardia to lose weight.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you even find one to swallow in the first place?
anyletter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
South Bronx Paradise!
CatOfGrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always heard the legend of the guy who had digestive troubles, so he swallowed the tapeworm, traveled to India, at spicy foods for a year, then came back and had the tapeworm removed. Supposedly cured his indigestion.
Prince-of-Ravens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes you can. It can actually help in some situations, at least according to preliminary studies. For example, give people with Crohn diseases' immune system something useful to do instead of attacking their own intestines.
Atreides_cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in a locked psych facility and one of the residents had psychosis because a tapeworm ate part of his brain.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is quite literally the thing that scares me the most. Like if I shat a segment of tapeworm I'd probably freakout so hard I'd give myself a heart attack. They'd have to sedate me. Scared out of my mind to the point that I will for sure have nightmares about it tonight just from reading this.
Etherius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well when they bridge the 100 lb gap between "healthy body weight" and "fat enough to be a candidate for lap band" there will probably be far fewer people seeking out parasites to lose weight.
am_medstudent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they swallowed the worm while it was a larva, it wouldn't go up to the brain, it would just sit in the gastrointestinal tract and munch on food and surrounding tissue. If the tapeworm was T. solium and was in egg form, then they would get neurocysticercosis.
Natolx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only the pork tapeworm causes those issues. The cow tapeworm is technically "safe" other than the malnutrition it causes, and the possible bowel obstruction if it gets large and tangled.
BadBetting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly if they made tapeworms with no downsides id be fine with one hunkering down in me eating my spare food. Allow me to eat whatever I want in whatever quanitity and be skinny just to let some fellas hitch a ride? Sure
scolfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lost a good ten pounds those times I got giardia. At least I think I had giardia. I rode it out before I got around to getting tested, and the wedmd description sounded closer than other types of gastric distress/gastroenteritis.
mecaenas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People will go to any lengths to avoid having the self discipline to put the fork down and eat less.
MesonoxianFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you're worried about neurocysticercosis, you could always just swallow some beef tapeworms. It's still not a good idea though.
Rekayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that word! It means worms in the brain! I learned it from Grey's Anatomy. I'm a doctor now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can remove a leg or two to lose weight too. That does not mean it is a good idea.
Blurgas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been forced to watch Monsters Inside Me.
Nope. Nope. Fuck all those little bastards. I will bathe everything around me in thermite if I suspect one of those nasties is nearby
i_ate_a_cookie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, man. Scranton is trying really hard to win this weightloss competition. We gotta do what we gotta do.
SmallFemale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I had anorexia for the second time I really wanted to catch a tapeworm to lose even more weight. I properly looked into it. Very sad!
xray_anonymous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This actually was a thing a long time ago. They would sell diet pills that contained tapeworm or their eggs or something and people would take them to deliberately infect themselves and use them to lose weight. My grandmother told me about it years ago.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No idea wtf that is, but you'd have to be retarded to swallow worms to lose weight in the first place
SweelFor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
who's your worm guy
Stumpledumpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. Why the hell would you want that? "Yeah, I want to lose weight, so I'm going to eat this fucking worm that will live in my intestines."
78523965412369874123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the many thing I learned from 1000 ways to die
euphemism_illiterate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, certain non human species, about 4 individuals could actually give a survival advantage.
smokeandlights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told by a college professor (who was dean of the science school) that med students often gave themselves tapeworms as "pets" so they could learn the symptoms and treatments. It has the benefit of causing weight loss, and (as I was told, not saying you're wrong) was "mostly harmless". Is this simply untrue, outdated information, or what? If it was true, I've always wondered why they weren't used (at least more publicly) in a supervised manner for high risk bariatric patients.
smokeandlights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should note that he did say that they eventually got rid of the worms, so it was a temporary situation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the second askreddit thread I've been in today where neurocysticercosis was brought up.
TapewormCasserole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There goes my fad diet scheme.
Strictly_Baked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably learned it from kelly on The Office.
babbetteateoatmeal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"That wasn't a tapeworm."
Pzhy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This perfectly represents how little physicians know about parasites, only specific species of tapeworms can cause neurocysticercosis
i mean they will still parasitize you, but they won't cause neuro becuasee that's not their life cycle
lizgger15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who's your worm guy?
andygchicago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:18 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually an extremely common myth
kalyndra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:27 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if you eat the right species!
FederalFarmerHM ยท 459 points ยท Posted at 23:49:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I'm a former Special Forces medic and I treated indigenous populations in Iraq, Afghanistan and several other Middle Eastern countries. Some of the patients and their families asked incredible things of me, such as putting brains back inside after an explosion took half the head off, but I have never been as incredulous as when I had to explain "wrong hole" to a very old tribal elder who was wondering why he couldn't father any children.
aboxacaraflatafan ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 02:52:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That first one is kind of heartbreaking.
FederalFarmerHM ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 02:56:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the patient was a young girl and the explosion was intended for us. There was nothing to be done, unfortunately.
Leohond15 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 03:09:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds more like denial over the violent loss of a loved one than lack of understanding of how things work.
JustVan ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 04:49:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, if you're an uneducated 3rd world person where people regularly die from diarrhea and finger cuts, and you suddenly meet these people who can cut off infected legs and replace them with machines, or can restore eye-sight, etc. you probably honestly do not have any idea of what the limits of their power actually are. Sure, you know you can't fix it, but you also couldn't fix a blown-off arm or leg, either, and yet they can. So... why not at least ask. If they can take out an old damaged heart and replace it with a new one, who knows maybe they can fix brains, too.
Leohond15 ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 04:50:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good point, I didn't consider that. But I think most people, once seeing something that horrifying have that knee jerk denial reaction of "You can fix it right?" I mean I have a friend who found her daughter dead (blue, cold and stiff) one morning and when the cops got there her first reaction was "We're going to the hospital right?"
JustVan ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:34:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... That's a sad case of denial and just... extreme hope.
Whatsthisnotgoodcomp ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The other thing is that this sounds absolutely crazy right now, but a couple hundred years ago and everything we're able to do now would've sounded just as crazy.
The brain is the last area we really need to work out, in 100 years it might not be as crazy to suggest we can simply repair parts of it.
FederalFarmerHM ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I believe it was more of what JustVan is talking about that denial. The denial came after we packaged her up and handed her back. That is when the classic displays of denial kicked in. Up until that moment, there was a look and feel of optimism in their eyes. They were excited to have gotten her into my clinic and to this day I truly believe they thought I could fix it.
Plane_pro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:22:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's really sad is how a border can mean the difference between a understanding of medicine and a complete lack of knowledge in the aspect of the human body. Iraq and Afganistan are both bordered by Iran, where my grandparents live...there there is modern medicine in the major cities (a year or three behind the US and Europe due to sanctions and no chemotherapy..[Iran does not have a good relation with nuclear tech...], but otherwise pretty modern stuff) and all but the most remote and religious have a good grasp on basic health and are within 3 hours drive of a hospital.
Lt_Duckweed ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chemotherapy isn't nuclear tech. You are thinking of radiotherapy.
Plane_pro ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:34:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah, thanks for the correction, I knew one of the two were banned. Though Iranians still need to fly to germany for cancer treatment
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:36 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Plane_pro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:29 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not an expert on Iranian medicine...American medicine, diffrent story, I can name the most popular manufacturer of MRI's and CT scanners; however, I'm not too sure about IRI. I believe some form of medicine regarding radioactive Isotopes are sanctioned
FederalFarmerHM ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:21:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another thing to consider, simply being associated with us was a dangerous proposition, much less coming onto our compound and receiving something valuable from us. This was the height of "the surge" in Iraq and things were pretty fired up.
This family put themselves at great risk by doing so. We didn't know them before it happened so they were sacrificing that level of disassociation by bringing their child into my clinic. If they didn't truly believe there was something we could do, it would have been much more likely for them to take her elsewhere, lash out, or exhibit denial in another way.
iCameToLearnSomeCode ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:58:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was wondering if it wasn't just as a burial thing, many cultures want you to be intact when buried, I am not sure of the Islamic stance just a guess.
Leohond15 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:04:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know the Chinese are big on that. I do know Muslims big on cleanliness during prayer but not sure about bodies being "intact"
Przedrzag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only things I know about Islamic burial practice are that the funeral should happen as soon as practicable and that burial at sea is not recommended.
iznotiz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you do one of those super-duper one-hour DNA match things first.
winterwheels21 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:04:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have to elaborate more on this....i cannot even comprehend how he never figured it out. I am assuming multiple wives and a 60 yr old man.
FederalFarmerHM ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 17:14:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct, although I don't remember the age exactly but he was definitely 45+ with multiple wives. I won't say where, but I will say that it is common for young boys to be used as sexual pleasure and there simply isn't a taboo against anal intercourse there whatsoever. I believe he had grown up in a privileged environment, relatively speaking, and had been using people for sexual pleasure into adulthood and had neither had "the talk" nor any reason to receive it. It wasn't until his empire of influence grew to the point that he was concerned about handing it off that I think he started wondering why he didn't have children yet.
winterwheels21 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the reply. I guess i just find it hard to imagine none of the wives had piped up.
FederalFarmerHM ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:21:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome. From our perspective, I agree with you. From theirs, it didn't surprise me at all.
mjt1105 ยท 3456 points ยท Posted at 00:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom tells it so much better, but here's a try: My mom was the head nurse at a clinic here in Houston in the 80's. She worked for an old WWII doctor that had gone into private practice (old school GP) when he returned back to the states. Well one afternoon she told me that they had a patient come in that was running a high fever and was complaining of pain in her pelvic area. Mom also tells me that there was a stench coming from the woman's lap that could only be described as enough to Gag a maggot off a meat wagon. She begins to interview the patient who told her that her and her boyfriend had been sexually active and that she has been in pain since. She thought that the woman may have contracted an STD and asked her to undress and wait for the doctor to examine her. The doctor arrives and closes the door, only to re-open it a few seconds later mentioning about the need for fresh air.
The doctor noticed that there was a vaginal discharge began to question the patient about her sex life, was it protected, non-protected, etc... According to mom, the patient told her "No doc, we always use a rubber." The doctor looked down then noticed that there was a small rubber band extending from the woman's vagina. The doctor reached in with his gloved hand and pulled it out. What came next can only be described as a magician pulling the magic cloth out of someone's mouth... one rubber band after another came out over the course of the next 10 minutes. Finally once they were all removed, the Doctor had "the talk" with the woman about sex education and that rubber bands were not a successful contraceptive and not what they meant by "wearing a rubber" and then wrote her a presecription for Abx.
Tldr: Mom was a nurse who had a patient use rubber bands as a contraceptive device who ended up with a severe infection and required medical attention to get them removed.
Theral ยท 344 points ยท Posted at 06:38:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's disgusting as hell, but I wanted to comment mostly because you used the phrase "Gag a maggot off a meat wagon", which I've never heard anyone but my dad say. Funny to see it in the wild.
PerntDoast ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:36:59 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad always says "knock a buzzard off a shit truck". I'm glad to have learned one that's a little more appropriate for some situations
BubblegumDaisies ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:27:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My family always says "gag a maggot ". Never knew the rest. TIL
TopherMarlowe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom's from Kentucky and she always said "gag a dog off a gut wagon."
logs28 ยท 2159 points ยท Posted at 06:18:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be 100% serious, this is why proper sex education is so critically important.
[deleted] ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 07:01:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Max_TwoSteppen ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 07:49:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I watched part of that (Norwegian?) series that's up on YouTube and learned a great deal about women and I'm a very active 22 year old. It's amazing to me how much the American sex ed system failed me.
JohnsonsLongJohnson ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 10:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one? It's actually really well done and pretty damn educational.
marceldlessard ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 11:41:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I can't believe how captivating that video was. For some reason I ended up watching the whole thing.
DobbyChief ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She even touched his penis.
laid_on_the_line ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great sex ed for children imho. Maybe she should not touch the penis so much or dive under it to squeeze the "sperm" out of the bottle so much... But I guess a 8 year old will laugh his ass off.
Malarooo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The doctor on that show is hilarious
SlutForMarx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're thinking of Shame :)
intredasted ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't leave us hanging then.
Tar_alcaran ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:12:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fixed it.
pitaenigma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:49:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I'm in university and Youtube teaches me better than my professors.
aquamarinekat331 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:02 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly!! Ugh, strange how that works?
SpaderTanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've learned more from YouTube than I have my school
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just the way the Jumbotron christians demand it to be.
scr33ner ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:07:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thing is Texas does everything in its power to teach proper sex ed. /s
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/chlamydia-outbreak-hits-texas-high-school-sex-ed/story?id=30798143
http://www.dailytexanonline.com/opinion/2014/04/15/texas-sex-ed-programs-dont-prepare-ut-students
and best of all: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/09/sex-ed-without-the-sex/498488/
theimpspeaks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is the abstanance only sex education working for you. Holyshit
[deleted] ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 09:35:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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one_armed_herdazian ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:46:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, dick stuck in broom
crt4 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:17:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
broom stuck in dick FTFY
SAGNUTZ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:58:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My pastor is also the senator of our state and he says different! /s
alittlegnome ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:12:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then people will have sex and that's a sin! /s
idiot_with_a_gun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what abstinence only education gets you, people using hear say and euphemisms as their protection.
DragonEngineer ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:06:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree education is important, but in today's Information Age there is no excuse for not doing a little bit of research to how things work. That's just ignorance. People need to take some responsibility in how their body works.
snowmen158 ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 08:50:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if you don't know what questions to ask, how can you ask them?
intrvnsit ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 10:02:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're still relying on people having some amount of internet literacy and common sense.
Think of all the joke answers that occur in AskReddit, or how is babby formed. And think of all the people that still believe the shit written on
fake news sitesnon-liburro meedia outlets.migueltrabajador ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:19:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that no matter how much sex education improves, somebody this stupid will continue to not get it. I was raised very conservatively, and even just through TV and movies, I picked this much up.
theimpspeaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you notice that, that story took place in the 80s....
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:43 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christian here living in the Bible Belt. Please for the love of God teach the kids about proper sex Ed. Burying your head in you bible is not going to keep your kids from boinking each other till the cows come home.
fuckswithyourhead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree that proper sexual education is important, but in today's society with all the access to information, keeping yourself in such naivety is just stupid. At some point, people should want to do research to want to know whether or not their guesses are good ones or bad ones.
ikindoflikereading ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:38:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why selective breeding is important.
deltora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American sex ed is so prudish.
I learned almost nothing from it, then a few years ago I found like a German sex ed video that literally demonstrated masturbation. I never got that lesson.
PerodicallySarcastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can blame this school system for that one sigh
Timeyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'MUH JESUS' tho
Surely shit like mjt1105 describes is The Will Of God!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:05 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, yes. My 9th grade health students complain "we already know all of this. Everybody knows. What's the point?"
No. You don't know all of this.
We still get questions about masturbation affecting penis size in the anonymous question box.
wascallywabbite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think any education system exists that fixes this level of stupid? Some people are just incredibly dumb. The good news is that most of them are happy.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 07:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that the stupids cannot breed any more
James_Gastovsky ยท -38 points ยท Posted at 07:36:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, this is why proper care of mentally handicapped people is important. Who the fuck allows them to have sex in the first place?
fluffypinknmoist ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 07:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even the mentally handicapped have a right to have consensual sex with partner/s of their choosing. It a human right. Darnnit
Darcsen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:08:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was akin to statutory rape, I'm not super sure on the law though, and it probably varies state to state.
AliceHearthrow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:24:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably also on the particular mental handicap in question, as well.
InbredDucks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its also often up to the caretaker to decide whether the handicapped person is allowed to have sex with someone without it counting as statutory rape.
Retromagika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
where can I exercise this right?
CaptOblivious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are you mentally handicapped?
creepysnowflake ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 04:21:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's lucky she didn't get TSS
inucune ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 05:05:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Toxic Shock Syndrome for people who don't know.
DuplexFields ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 06:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to make some snide remark and link to a picture of rubber bands chained together, but Toxic Shock Syndrome tends to suck the fun out of things.
-SexyGrandpa- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:49:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, bruh.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:23:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...you can't get TSS from rubber. TSS is caused by not having sufficient mucus In your vaginal canal. This is why tampons are directly linked to TSS, however menstrual cups and diaphragms have 0 association.
NachoCupcake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TSS is caused when a bacterial infection migrates into the blood. It's essentially a specific type of sepsis. The source of the infection itself is irrelevant. It is most commonly associated with improper use of tampons because their use is fairly common. However, improper tampon use is not the sole cause of TSS.
fourthwyrdsister ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 05:48:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck did I just read. @_@
Atario ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:43:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something destined for the hall of fame alongside Jolly Ranchers and cumbox
Rath12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:35:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So very much this.
daneelr_olivaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm rarely disgusted by the things I read. I'm staying away from /r/AskReddit's medical threads from now on.
tinycherrypie ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 06:11:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the "next 10 minutes" mark I had to put my phone down, cover my face with my hands, and slowly come to terms with the fact that this happened. God bless that doctor and your mother. Also H-town represent!
Hugh_Jass_Clouds ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is Florida woman bad. Austin is weird, but in Houston?
DarthNobody ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 06:22:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I...I don't understand. Rubber bands? What the fuck were they doing with rubber bands? I know I don't WANT to know what part of the visual I'm missing but...WHAT???
Rath12 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:36:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He put rubber bands on his dick cause he thought that's what "a rubber" was.
I know. @_@
whittiez ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 07:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like she just stuffed them in there to block the semen or something. I don't even know.
toeverycreature ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:23:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of a story that a radiology tech friend told me. Short version is the patient needed to be told that mayonnaise is not a suitable substitute for lube.
Adorable_Admiral ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it is an instrument right?!?!?!?!?
lx_NightHawk_xl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No you're thinking of horseradish
Sexual_Batman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is if you put your dick in it. Thanks Ben Folds!
TakeMeToChurchill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Neither is horseradish.
boyuvdarkness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, Patrick, mayonnaise is not an instrument
thatFatGhost001 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this the one with maggots?
toeverycreature ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, yes it is.
Sazazezer ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have so many questions as to the logistics of this, and yet i don't really want to know a single answer.
Touchmycooker ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to imagine this guy loaded his dick up and it just looked like a rubber band ball
demostravius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I thought condoms where uncomfortable.
Innerouterself ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:41:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good old abstinence only education.
goldenhourlivin ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:41:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ho ๐๐ป ly ๐๐ป shit ๐๐ป what
craneguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is an ex-nurse and she tells of a patient with similar symptoms. In her case though she hadn't been taking her tampons out after use and had a number of them impacted... She also described the smell as second only to a dead body that came in after being submerged for a few weeks.
01-__-10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one left my mouth open..
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I picture the doctor as Col. Potter from MASH.
porjolovsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fremulon
Treczoks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100% American Bible Belt "Abstinence Only" Sex Education! Hurray!
blondynizm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My stomach hurts just by reading this...
superjanna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My vagina hurts reading this
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar story, a doctor friend of my mom's told us about a lady complaining of "roots growin' between mah legs". TL;DR she forgot she had shoved a whole unpeeled potato up there over two weeks prior...
24pepper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a hard time believing this.... he was pulling them out for 10 minutes one after another? A vagina isn't THAT big and if they were having sex, I'm sure the guy would have complained about feeling them and they would have gotten in the way after so many times.
marklish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was reading this while eating my breakfast and all I could think of was is this is going to be another swamps of dagobah.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
vomits
But A+ for making me feel like I was right there in the room.
Jebbediahh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Winner.
Fucking sex Ed in this country...
katbeeyoutiful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did this lady not get pregnant after all those rubbers?
jessie_monster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please call your senators about Planned Parenthood, folks. I'm not American, but guys really, really need it.
nuggerless_child ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of Nacho dip lady... shudders
I do not want to find the link, sorry.... ugh
Satarob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What in the unholy fuck.
WarehouseToYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically correct; The most disgusting type of correct!
Death_is_real ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe ppl on this planet are so stupid
euphemism_illiterate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you could have a rubber band tight enough, it could work as a contraceptive I guess.
/Joke
sarcassholes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg!! Are you serious?!!! ๐ณ๐ณ
GhostBeefSandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cue March of the Gladiators
molly__hatchet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...wow.
firebirdi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, wrap one around his willie at the base a few times. If he can't pee, he's most likely not going to cause any other problems. I can't imagine taking THAT off would be much fun tho.
divisibleby5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom was a CPS worker in the Ozarks part of oklahoma. We have Hill people in some areas and its pretty fucked up. She was called to hospital in the middle of night because a 13 or 14 year old girl with downs syndrome was in labor there and she was obviously dirty and neglected .plus she had no pre natal care. So mom was called to hospital to interview girl so the cops could arrest her abusers and to figure out where she and the baby were going to go after hospital. Moms close with local OBGYN since they have a lot of unfortunate interactions. Moms in hallway outside of girls room when doc arrives, doc heads in to room and mom hears him exclaim to nurses ''get her in the shower with soap and shaved now!you'd better get her scrubbed good!'he came out of room red faced mad and shaking.
Doc explains to mom later the girl was infested with crabs and STDs and they were probably going to c section girl because of her age and not knowing what baby could catch exitting, including syphilis. He then went home and showered because of the lice and came back to do her c section
Long story short, girl was never enrolled in school , just had birth cert, no dental care or prenatal care and was her family's fucktoy and had no idea what was going on. Baby was healthy and developmentally normal aside from being deaf and was adopted out of family and had a normal life . Mom is her facebook friend and the girl with down syndrome lived her life in a group home then nursing home, had a sheltered workshop job helping old church ladies make caps /quilts for preemies then as a greeter at the same hospital and a normal life for her situation. Her normal daughter kept in touch with her as an adult. Parents of girl with DS were meth cooks and got 46456466875 years in prison
whydouwannaknow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i am surprised she didn't get pregnant or something...since the condoms were stuck inside for days
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wtf no
LeikoLemons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, Houston...
As someone who only recently turned of age, but luckily had out-of-school sex-ed, I have a LOT of friends in the state who ask me questions about STIs and contraception because I know more than they do--- Naturally I remind the that I'm not a doctor and shouldn't be a main resource, but CHRIST Texas needs some help. "Abstinence is the only way" is not sex ed. It's just not.
babeinthecity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What i find funny is both her and the boyfriend thought "rubber" actually meant ... rubber bands???
bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:57 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of blowfly girl ;)
witch--king ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:15 on January 23, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could not going "no. Oh god no. No no no." in my head while reading. It just kept getting worse........
zpandexx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um... Okay then. :|
SuicidalTorrent ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:44:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need sex education to realise that this is very, VERY wrong.
daaaamngirl88 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No fucking way
Legacy0904 ยท 633 points ยท Posted at 00:25:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, dental hygienist...
Had to explain that brushing your teeth with Comet ( the cleaner ) was not a good way to clean your teeth to a 40 year old woman.
Also had to tell a woman that painting her teeth with white finger nail polish was a bad idea
kt-bug17 ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 03:28:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw an episode of My Strange Addiction where a woman would eat a little bit of Comet a couple of times a day (this behavior arose due to sexual abuse during her childhood; eating Comet made her feel 'clean' inside). The show had her go see a dentist where she learned that she had to loose all of her upper teeth and most of her lower teeth due to the damage the Comet caused.
queenofthera ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:17:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so sad.
LetterSwapper ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 08:18:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, who knew that stuff would have such a... Deep Impact.
recumbent_mike ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:14:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take your upvote, you monster.
2legittoquit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus
cousinlazlo ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:45:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's dental hygienist told her the bleeding in her gums was probably caused by her birth control. She asked the dentist and he was like, nooooo.....
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:34:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Cpt_Tripps ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 11:36:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right it's 2017 why can I not clear coat my teeth yet?!
beeyonca ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:29:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are both disgusting.
NewBallista ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:39:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it makes them so white
seeking_hope ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:34:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do they still have teeth?!?
gd2shoe ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:12:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. I have to ask: Why is the nail polish idea bad? Toxicity? Solvent on the enamel? (I'm not sure what goes into those things.)
RunningUpThtHill ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:31:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nail polish often does have formaldehyde and other stuff you shouldn't be ingesting. Its bad for you as well. If you swallow it it will fuck up your liver.
inucune ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*to the tune of bridge over the water kwai: "comet...it makes your teeth turn green!
Comet, it tastes like gasoline...."
MadAeric ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here for this. Was not disappointed.
DerNachtHuhner ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:25:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Comet,....it makes you vomit
Jantra ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:29:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So drink Comet, and vomit, todaaaaay!
2legittoquit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where is that from? How does everyone know it?
vizard0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids song from elementary/middle school. Like Miss Susie or The Wheels on the Bus or I'm Bringing Home a Baby Bumble Bee. You probably learned different songs.
LilRach05 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:42:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a fellow hygienist, I am cringing so hard right now
burnerrrs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:33:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wha??? I just scrubbed the hell outta my kitchen sink with comet. I can't imagine thinking that's ok to put into my mouth!
shannibearstar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:17:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They make dental paint! Used in theater.
hyperfat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:24 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I recall, comet did make a tooth paste in the 30s. Could be wrong but it's in my head. Pepsident definitely did.
newrabelizaba ยท 2155 points ยท Posted at 23:58:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A 32 year old grown man asked me if the hot spells he was experiencing at night meant he was going through menopause.
Chuck_Hitler ยท 1861 points ยท Posted at 02:18:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's not called womenopause.
YakiVegas ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 09:03:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that like how it's not called "Hispes?"
fake_duck ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:16:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His what now?
YakiVegas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't remember where this came from, but the joke is that it's called herpes, not hispes.
Malawi_no ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:24:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither is it called womenstruation.
Matrauder ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:48:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's called manopause
flostre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:47 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When Manowar are offstage...
Supreme0verl0rd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment is buried treasure way down here...
minniewiggles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:02:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I truly believe a lot of men go through their own form of menopause -- they have hormones too, and when hormones change with age, the body and emotions change.
RECOGNI7E ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is an incredibly good point!
supersonicity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, funny
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not wrong, /u/Chuck_Hitler
Computermaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something something triggered by mansplaining.
savealltheelephants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Womynopause, thank you very much
McWaddle ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, that's manopause.
adhdnd ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:15:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't it be andropause, the male form of menopause? Maybe he just didn't know the word for it?
PM_ME_YR_O_FACE ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:49:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had hot flashes not long after I turned 40. Turned out to be low testosterone. Andropause is real. The doc put me on meds and it drastically improved my life.
Skizot_Bizot ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah how silly. Menopause doesn't start till like mid to late 40s.
NobodyIsHereAnyMore ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:37:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you run some (hormone) tests because obviously it concerned him?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:45:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I described my semi-conscious preseizures as "hot flashes" to my mom, that was kind of embarrassing. Consider in the future that someone describing mysterious hot flashes might be having seizures.
everythingskulls ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By far the funniest one on here.
AbsolutelyPink ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 01:09:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not funny at all. Men can have high estrogen levels (usually 50+ age) and if estrogen levels drop, they can experience hot flashes. Btw, high estrogen is a primary cause of male breast cancer.
iamchaossthought ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:54:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
damn, you sure put that guy in his place lmao
SneakyGreninja ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, she isn't /u/AbsolutelyPink for nothing
AbsolutelyPink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She.
SneakyGreninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, pfft, I did the thing again where I refer to everybody as my gender, sorry
AbsolutelyPink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries, just want to make sure I get called the gender appropriate insults when is comes time j/k
MrBojangoUnchained ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:55:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
still funny
soberdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well? Was it?
Mr_Noms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think there are rare cases of men getting menopause-type symptoms.
cartmancakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, men go through hormone changes as well...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is technically a male form of menopause. But it is funny that he referred to it as that haha
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:57:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to a 32-year-old child, of course.
[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 03:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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BaPef ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say slightly more than half the population are nothing more than large children
IcedJack ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:35:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes me part of the majority! WOOHOO!
ATAlum ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:53:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a nearly 37-year-old child. Would not recommend, creates difficulties in life.
CanucksFTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, know a few.
NIPURU ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:08:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
grown. ass. MAN.
drpeppertastegood ยท 3974 points ยท Posted at 22:51:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a grown man I still work with that tampons don't break down in a woman's urine after they were finished using them. He's been married 12 years. It was not his best day.
beargrowlz ยท 502 points ยท Posted at 01:09:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I see these threads there is some hapless dude who doesn't know anything about periods/female anatomy and I have two feelings about it: on one hand it's genuinely exhausting that sex education is terrible and boys don't hear about this stuff from their female peers even though girls learn about male anatomy (prime example, young teen girls are shushed out of talking about periods even when young teen boys are happily cracking jokes about wet dreams and dick cheese); on the other hand it is fucking hilarious that any dude would think tampons dissolve inside women, Jesus Christ.
AkwardRockette ยท 268 points ยท Posted at 03:40:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dissolving tampons would quite literaly be the most useless invention ever.
IMakeShittyInvention ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Challenge accepted!
socalbeachgal ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:18:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what a great name for a band!!
andybmcc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:05:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it would be nice if they broke down at some point, obviously longer than someone would be using one. I had a lady roommate that apparently thought it was OK to flush her twat cotton. I always had a lined trash can in my bathroom for such occasions. I'm not really grossed out by it, wrap it and toss it in. Fast forward to weird plumbing issues. The poor dude that ran the machine to unclog my main sewage pipes pulled out so much god damn cotton. We both kinda looked at each other when he hit gold, and he knew that I knew that he knew, but not a word was spoken.
1womAn2womEn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:22:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But...you can flush them. At least most places with decent plumbing... some of them even come with flushable applicators
Fnuckle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:11:30 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What!!! No!!! I never flushed tampons. Never a good idea.
Djinjja-Ninja ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:19:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I dunno. I had a massive argument with a friend once about 24 hour disposable contact lenses.
He was adamant (which is why the massive argument ensued because it devolved into me calling him an utter bellend) that you just leave the contacts in your eyes and that they FUCKING DISSOLVE OVER NIGHT and then y0ou just pop in a new set...
Nothing would convince him otherwise, we had several people pointing out the many problems with dissolvable lenses, the least of which being leaving residue in your eyes, but he was having none of it.
In all other respects he was a perfectly intelligent guy in his early 20's. Apart from his steadfast belief in fucking magic disappearing contacts.
noahthegreat ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 06:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, theres a lot of useless inventions out there, but this would have to be one of them.
literal = real
litter = trash
literally = the word you meant to use
litteraly = the word you used
AkwardRockette ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoops. Sorry about that.
funmamareddit ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 03:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a male friend in college that women used more than one tampon per period. He thought we put one in at the beginning and took it out at the end. He never understood why we were always buying tampons if we only used around a dozen a year.
hoocares ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 05:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The truly worst/most disgusting/omg no whyyyyy part about this is that some women did used to do just that. There were even tampons marketed specifically for this purpose before they were linked to illness. Manufacturers didn't start putting warnings about Toxic Shock Syndrome on tampons until 1980. I don't understand why anyone would want to do that though, even if they didn't understand the infection risks.
notabigmelvillecrowd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:30:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked a co-worker once if she had some hygiene products I could steal, she said she only had overnight pads, she liked them because you could, "wear them all day without worrying about changing them all the time". Blorf.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:10:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this blorf? If you wear an enormous pad then you never have to worry about changing it. I mean you can change it if you have to pee at some point in your day, but you never have to specifically go to the bathroom just to deal with your period. Some people don't have to pee for a whole workday, in which case I think it makes lots of sense to just wear a big pad and not have to enter a bathroom for the day..
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:58 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Late but I do sometimes have to go to the bathroom just to deal with my period.
Atario ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Less maintenance = better, simple as that
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SayWhoToTheWhat ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 06:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3 hours is very conservative. I go 4 to 8 to (very rarely) 12, depending on flow and availability of resources (bathrooms and tampons).
But I do get freaked out about TSS.
BubblegumDaisies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get physically ill if i use tampons. I mean throwing u p and skin looks greenish.
I will only use them under greatest of need for an hour tops.
Told my mom this recently and found out one of my much older 1/2 sisters had TSS from. A tampon left in overnight and nearly died. Im 34. I needed this info 20 years ago
Tzipity ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the boxes actually say 4-6. Though I'm sure we've all gone longer especially at night or while sick. I'd be careful going much longer than 8 though. They recommend using the smallest absorbency you can get by on so if you're fine going to hour 12, you could probably go lower (which decreases your TSS risk). I have fairly light periods (but really severe PCOS so I'm miserable anyway) a lot myself and my own anatomy works in a way I usually don't actually drip so at night if I'm laying down I often just skip tampons entirely.
PhlogistonParadise ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:45:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm jealous, I have to get up in the middle of the night to change or the sheets look like a crime scene. That wasn't true before I got an IUD.
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:46:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes. Like I said though, as light as my periods are they're wildly disablingly painful. And I can't tolerate BC (really should look into an IUD but my luck I'd end up with what you described) so there's nothing they can do for my polycystic ovaries. I've been told my ovaries are about triple normal size. I can rupture cysts just bending over or once I was yelling at my cat. Also ended up with ovarian torsion (my ovary had twisted around twice on the Fallopian tube). Holy hell is that some pain! Had hospital repeatedly trying to insist I had just ruptured a cyst but I couldn't walk and was screaming in pain so bad that they'd come hit me with some IV pain meds to the point I was so looped I'd fall asleep instantly only to wake back up from the pain a little while later (this also fucked me over then when they finally operated because my pain med tolerance was so high that what they gave me in the recovery room was like injecting saline, didn't do a thing.
So yeah, I mean blood messes suck for sure, but I wouldn't envy me. People without ovaries, I envy them.
KinseyH ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:45:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They removed all my internal lady parts when my daughter was born 15 years ago. I don't miss any of them.
PhlogistonParadise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:51 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know ovarian torsion was a thing! Sorry to hear about that, hope your situation improves.
tlamstm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:07 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got an iud a few months ago. I had debilitating cramps. Like, bedridden for at least 2 days with heating pads and such every time. Now my cramps are much more manageable and I barely bleed. I used to go through almost an entire box of super plus tampons every month. It totally depends on which iud you get and how your body handles the hormones/copper in them.
AnotherComrade ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
8 hours is perfectly fine. 3 hours would hurt my poor vagina.
micrographia ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UGH yeah. Unless you have a SUPER heavy flow, there is no way in hell you need to change every 3 hours. Pulling out a dry tampon is the worrrrrst.
queenofthera ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sand paper...
kumiosh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus... I'm male but still... fuck you, making me think of that.
queenofthera ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:28:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's honestly how it feels. Fine grained sandpaper.
moeru_gumi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:44 on February 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It feels like the thin mucus membranes of your rectum are adhered with their own spit to a large fuzzy cotton ball and you are trying to rip it out, with your membranes still insisting on clinging to every fiber of the plug, tugging your internal organs slightly and making you wonder if you should pull it harder and get it over with, or let go and risk it being stuck forever, and either way you might die, as you are awkwardly crouching over a very grimy rest-stop toilet with your pants soaking up a puddle on the floor
ben7337 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:59:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a gay male who doesn't know or really care much about female hydeinge for obvious reasons, this is actually a very interesting thing to know. I figured tampons were a daily thing over the 3-5 days (I'm guessing here) or so most women have a period, not something every 3 hours for that range of time, that would easily be 6 a day for 3-5 days or 18-30 a month, that's a crapton of tampons per female per month.
WiFiForeheadWrinkles ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:07:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you consider that some bacteria can multiply in as little as 20 minutes (and that growth is exponential) then every 3 hours does make sense.
DogsB4People ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:41 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before I got on birth control I'd use two boxes of about 20-30 every month for 7-8 days. $16 a month for tampons and had to use pads too because my life was dumb and tampons weren't enough.
Like you probably care to know ๐ but yes, Craptonnnnnn. But now I'm on BC and I only use half a box of 50 for a 4-5 days. And no pads.
Again, like you'd care ๐ but I figured id follow up with good news ๐
ben7337 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:00 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good to note, always good to learn new things. I'm glad men don't have to go through all that stuff though.
moeru_gumi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:45 on February 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No joke, and it's not like they're cheap. This is one of the reasons being homeless or impoverished and having a period is really, really horrible.
Brassens71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:19:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL... ewww.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:44:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The superabsorbent properties of Rely caused vaginal dryness by absorbing the natural humidity of the vagina. Often this led to ulcerations in the vaginal wall when the tampon was removed, offering pathways for bacteria to infect the bloodstream.[2] Further, the tampons' superabsorbency meant that the viscosity of vaginal fluids was enhanced, providing a good environment for bacteria growth.[3]" -Wikipedia on Rely Tampons
Why the Fuck would anyone put up with that? Only having to change your tampon once isn't worth cutting up your insides or increased risk of BV.
spaceflora ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a long distance boyfriend once that I went to visit for a week and I had started my period and he had like half a roll of toilet paper. Total. In his whole apartment. And I told him that he needed to get more toilet paper. And he just did not understand why half a roll of toilet paper was not going to last me a week on my period. I was like this roll of toilet paper WILL BE GONE by the end of the day. Here is $5, go buy as much toilet paper as this will get you.
Oh and he also didn't have a trash can in his bathroom (which, of course, is essential equipment for women). So fine, we'll just leave a plastic bag in there to put the used period stuff in. He tried to tell me that was gross and I was to not leave that in his bathroom and to take it out and put it in the dumpster outside, or like wrap it up so he never had to see it. Told him that wasn't happening.
He also didn't realize quite how much shampoo would be needed for my hair either.
oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you his first girlfriend?
My poor partner accidentally cops an eyeful of my used sanitary products every now and then, but that's just part of being in a relationship imo.
spaceflora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No! He definitely had at least one girlfriend before me (and he's had at least one after me). Can't remember how many now. He was way more worldly and experienced than me too (or at least he seemed that way to me at the time). It's just another one of those things about him that I am never going to understand. Of course the possibility remains that he was lying his ass off to me, which is entirely possible because he was very convincing and I really couldn't tell if he was lying or not if I actually heard him say it. Guy was an asshole, he wasn't lying about that.
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a controlling bastard, I'm glad you're shot of him!
spaceflora ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:35:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! I've already forgotten how many years it's been. 8 maybe? Maybe I'll forget his name one day too lol
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:57:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Understandable mistake, I guess. I learned most of what I know about tampon usage by reading the back of my mom's tampon box whilst sitting on the shitter. I also used to cut those little tampon insertion diagrams out of the pamphlet that comes in the box and leave them in people's textbooks, etc.
vvundervvaal ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 03:44:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if tampons did dissolve with urine, it wouldn't dissolve inside you. Your vagina and urethra are two different holes, not connected at all.
oh__golly ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 04:05:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me think of the scene in OITNB where Sophia has to give the ladies a mirror because they think they must pee from their vagina because "There's only one hole"
Cannot for the life of me remember season or ep.
Angel_of_Seitan ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 04:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A cousin of mine legit thought you urinated from your clitoris. This was someone in their early to mid twenties . . . and NOT male. I blame shitty health ed.
cattipotato ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:10:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For real though, I was 18 or 19 when I realized where the urethra was. I thought I was well educated too, took anatomy classes and saw plenty of diagrams (that never labeled the urethra because they were about "reproductive organs" only lol), but because I vaguely knew about things like males having nipples despite no use for them, I thought that the female urethra would be in roughly the same place downstairs... Because clit = dickhead :( I hate the lack of education.
oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't realise that the urethra was so close to the vaginal opening to begin with. I knew it was there somewhere but I thought it was inside the inner labia, between the clitoris and vaginal opening.
1womAn2womEn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is...
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but likewhat I mean is I thought it was closer to the clit, like much closer. I suppose thats what I should have said xDVampireSurgeon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:48:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister, 16, just recently expressed to us that she thought pee comes from the clitoris.
FireHazard11 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:53:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That honestly makes more sense for someone to think than the vagina.
queenofthera ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, because pee feels like it comes from roughly the same area as the vagina and it definitely doesn't feel like it comes from the clitoris.
KinseyH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it does come from roughly the same area. They're quite close together.
I can see how, if you've never had to see a urologist and you receive sketchy sex ed, that you wouldn't discover this on your own. I've had bladder and kidney issues since I was a baby, and I've been putting my feet up in stirrups since I was 4, so I was always familiar with my downstairs architecture. But that's not something someone should be expected to just figure out on their own.
mikaiketsu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:41:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have read a lot of bad fanfic written by teen girls who thought that breasts will become bigger if squeezed often, so I honestly blame the system.
TheNewElite250 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:44:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Season 2 episode 4!
oh__golly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MVP right here!
TheNewElite250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need to put my procrastination to some use at least.
oily_fish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:00:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OITNB is Orange Is the New Black for anyone wondering.
/u/oh__golly, don't throw in random initialisms. It's annoying.
Pavomuticus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:45:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was best friends with a woman who, when we were children (around 14 or so for me and around 16 for her), absolutely did not believe that women had urethras, only men. I was the source of most of her "sex ed", as my parents educated me on it very early and hers did not much at all. She wouldn't believe me until I showed her MULTIPLE - as in seriously, one was not enough - diagrams and images showing that yes, we have urethras. She thought we urinate from our vaginas. Really.
BroadStreetElite ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:00:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a horror story about some dude fucking his wife's urethra their entire marriage. Doctor was wondering why the wife was getting constant UTIs and then she started asking questions about why sex was always so painful...
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading this! Oh god, it makes me clench.
cousinlazlo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:42:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but I've met women who don't know that, so... yeah. Basically we need to teach biology better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:11 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that's not a completely unreasonable assumption for a younger guy to make. For sex ed being as crappy as it is/has been, I mean... they've only got one hole.
vvundervvaal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:16 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know I had two until I was about 19, so no judgements.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:41:41 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think when I was around 12, my mom gave me a small series of sex ed books. A lot of it was wishy washy like "when a man and woman get married..." and "if they decide they want to start their own family..."
I think they redeemed themselves by following that with actual biology without being too graphically descriptive.
The only sex ed I got in school was "boys have penises and girls have vaginas. That's why you don't share bathrooms in school, but it's ok at home because many people don't have two bathrooms."
Dafuq?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:59:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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beargrowlz ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:07:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was pretty common among young lads to talk about wet dreams, accuse each other of having them, and so on. tbh you probably went to a better school than I did; most people did!
Kamilny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:18:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was tons for dick cheese, but wet dreams I just learned about in sex ed but no one really talked about it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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worst_hero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fucking Christ, how that girl was even alive.
Send_Me_Trump_Nudes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL what dick cheese is
Hell I don't even know why I am circumcised my parents are both atheists...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Send_Me_Trump_Nudes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they had a girl before me, but I guess that's possible
newbris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an Australian bloke and I had to convince my adult Canadian sister-in-law that the urethra and vagina were different holes. She seems normal in every other way. Hope no Canadian dude learnt off her :)
londonsocialite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:50:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so weird. I remember being taught at 12 about the female anatomy and being explained what everything does. The sideways drawing clearly shows the bladder isn't connected to the reproductive organs.
dankmernes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thirdly, Thank Dog for the Internet, or he'd be really terrified by what lives below
micrographia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait WTF is dick cheese? I missed out on overhearing that conversation...
micrographia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait WTF is dick cheese? I missed out on overhearing that conversation...
londonsocialite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tampons are made of sugar apparently.
FikeMosh ยท 227 points ยท Posted at 01:50:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to reveal my male ignorance with a question:
You can leave a tampon in while you pee, right? Because it's in the vagina and not the urethra.. or does the pressure from its presesnce in the vagina press on the urethra and make it hard to pee? Or maybe you take it out so the little strings don't get wet? So mysterious.
catlady420 ยท 297 points ยท Posted at 01:56:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you leave it in while you pee, if it's not pushed up far enough it can feel like you're going to push it out when you pee, but if it's in right you shouldn't feel it much if at all. And you can position the string so that it doesn't get wet.
Mickeymousetitdirt ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 05:49:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait a minute...
I am a woman but please don't laugh at me.
I am 27, I'm definitely not an idiot. (Or, shit, maybe I am).I have had my period since 11 years old, I've have the Mirena IUD and have given birth. I have a chronic genetic bladder disease that requires regular trips to a uro-gynecologist. My point in saying all this is that I am familiar with my lady-bits. But, your comment blew my mind. I am aware the urethra is different from the vagina, of course. And, maybe it's just my lack of following up on menstrual advice my mom gave me at age 11. But, I always thought it was kind of unsafe to use the same tampon after peeing. I always change them after I pee. Also, I have to be careful about using tampons for too long because any disruption/bacteria near my urethra causes my bladder condition to flare up and this is especially so during my period; it's the worst during my cycle.
I had no idea it was totally fine to use the same tampon after peeing. This may be gross but does the tampon ever soak up urine when you do this? Surely urine will pass "through" it or around it when you pee. I am so confused and feel dumb! :(
sarahbeast ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 06:07:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Urine can't pass through a tampon or around it because, like you said, the vagina and urethra are literally different holes. The only way a tampon can soak up urine is if the string gets wet and the urine then absorbs into the tampon. Positioning the string away from the stream of urine makes removing the tampon totally unnecessary. So say you just changed your tampon an hour before, but you have to pee. Unless you have an ungodly heavy flow, there would be no reason to change your tampon in order to go to the bathroom. Just position the string so it doesn't fall into the stream.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:49:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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WastingMyLifeHere2 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:53:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does not
FunInStalingrad ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 07:42:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. No wonder my dick feels sore.
DemyeliNate ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now this made me laugh
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:25:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude... That's not how it works
DarkandTwistyMissy ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine to leave it in there and go (as long as the string doesn't get wet.) However, you should NOT take it out then put it back in. Just in case that's what you're thinking.
And no, you aren't an idiot!
Love_LittleBoo ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly you may be exacerbating your infections by changing your tampons so often. It's terrible to do that when it's not full and able to pull out pretty easily (take a look at my profile and see the very last comment I made before this one).
Be safe, girl!
catlady420 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:01:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard anything about it being unsafe to use the same tampon after peeing and can't really think of any reason it would be... The only time I've ever gotten urine on a tampon was when I first started using them as a teenager and they weren't pushed up far enough, if they're in there properly, there shouldn't be any way for urine to be anywhere near the tampon.
NettleGnome ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:10:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The urethra sits above the vagina, so unless you somehow succeed in peeing up inside yourself it's completely safe to pee and keep on using the same tampon. If I were you I'd be sure to keep the string well to the side or back so it didn't get any urine on it if that makes your condition flare up though.
Have you Googled what the lady parts looks like? Because it kinda sounds like you have this image in your head that the urethra sits almost inside the entrance to the vagina, which it doesn't. I'm not trying to be mean, just trying to inform so you won't have to waste tampons. I use a cup and would highly recommend it, but to each her own amirite? :)
200Tabs ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:55:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cups are. The. Best.
NettleGnome ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:07:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Truth sister.
CortanasOwner ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:45:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I personally put my string til the side. I kinda tuck it between my outer labia and my leg so it gets held in place there, away from the steam
Diannika ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:10:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
here is another (gross tho it is) thought.
As long as you keep yourself clean, and barring it bothering your conditions (As i know you said you have issues anyway), Urine is sterile. As long as its just a tiny bit (and you change your tampons regularly anyway, which everyone should), if the strings do get slightly caught by your urine, its not a huge deal. So i wouldnt be to afraid of missing it and therefor changing your tampon every time anyway just in case. Still try to keep it out, not saying dont. Just saying dont be paranoid about it :)
however, IF you can, a cup is a better option. Nothing hanging out to get caught in the stream at all :D
queenofthera ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:11:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Urine isn't actually sterile but it only has low levels of bacteria that wouldn't cause harm, (That's different in the case of someone with a UTI or other infection). Your comment is all great advice, I just thought I'd be that pedantic arse that corrects a minor point.
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'sall good :D
and i didnt know that, i thought it was completely sterile in and of itself (obviously, once its exposed to the world anything goes). So thanks for the info.
PM_ME_JAR_JAR_NUDES ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:03:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Changing the tampon is more likely to introduce infection and contaminants when you urinate than urine itself is to worsen your chronic infections.
Urine is, barring existing bacterial infiltration of the urethra or bladder, extremely sterile by comparison to your skin. Putting your fingers near your vagina at all introduces a disease vector that simply leaving the tampon alone would probably not introduce.
lmolayem ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:24:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nodumbquestions
SayWhoToTheWhat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your tampon is where it is supposed to be, and you pee like a normal female, there is no way for urine to be anywhere near your tampon.
That sounded snarkier than I meant it to be. Sorry. :)
Babycarrot_hammock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:02:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooooh ... sweetie.
idlewildgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just hold the string out of the way and go, I only change it if it needs changing. This shouldn't be a problem but if you are prone to infections it won't hurt to be extra safe.
PhlogistonParadise ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I've noticed that taking out the tampon helps me void my bladder more completely. You can pee with it in, but if you're going to take it out anyway, do it before you pee. I always take it out before taking a crap, then take a shower, then put another one in. It's the only way to be sure.
Avoiding sex during menstruation helped my bladder problems too.
borntohula85 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying when menstruating you take a shower after every shit? What??
PhlogistonParadise ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:17:56 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sure do. If I can. I'm usually at home in the morning. Otherwise I feel dirty all day.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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micrographia ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:48:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This blows my mind because I drink a ton of water and pee about 9 times a day. Tampons last 8 hours so I change them 3 times a day. I would be spending SO much money if I changed it every time I pee! Did you know you can sort of push the string up in your vag so that it doesn't stick out and absorb pee? Obviously don't push it in too far but just enough so it isn't sticking out. Unless you pee stream goes all over the place every direction, there is really no need to change your tamp every time you pee!
Bullylandlordhelp ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:47:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I second this. Source : am girl
rmartel14 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Third, also girl. I did not know the last part, however.
Edit: a word
Brianyatta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:22:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forth this, am older brother of 5 sisters.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:36:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel sorry for you. Gosh. Sister overload!
Hollywoot ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 02:14:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whelp TIL
shoryukenist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the string gets soaked in pee, do you change it?
tibtibs ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:23:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not usually. I've used toilet paper to quickly dry it and never had an issue before. Unless it's been in for awhile anyways.
catlady420 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:05:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah i don't feel like it would dry in a hurry so I've always changed it if it does. Plus I would be paranoid about my underwear getting wet as well.
AmethystFae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:50:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or use a diva cup. Problems solved.
Hugh_Jass_Clouds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow they really do think of everything don't they.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:39:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, either that, or you could just exchange a few words with me beforehand. If I'm involved, nothing gets wet.
Orangulent ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 03:05:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pooping while it's in can force it to dislodge a bit though.
oh__golly ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 04:07:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pooping with a menstrual cup is the worst, especially in a public restroom.
Always worried that it's gonna shoot right out.
LuckyShake ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 05:41:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question?! So when you are in a public restroom how do you go about cleaning your menstrual cup? I don't much about them but I'm interested.
oh__golly ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 05:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I have to empty mine I use a disabled restroom.
Turn tap on, wash hands, leaving tap on, squat, remove, dump, waddle to the sink, rinse, squat, reinsert, wash hands, turn tap off.
If I have to use a stall I wipe it out with toilet paper and put it back where I found it :)
Edit: I know some people carry baby wipes to clean them in public, but I don't really want the perfumes and cleansers inside my vagina.
LuckyShake ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:55:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! Also, do you get the same "full" feeling you get when it's time to empty it like you would a tampon or do you time it out, and does it leak? Sorry for all the questions I've just been considering making the switch but don't know anyone that uses them.
oh__golly ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's time to change mine when I feel the suction start to give, it's like a little pop and slip feeling, but it's very very faint. I can't really comment on the "full" feeling because I hated using tampons hahah
Honestly whenever I feel that I at least adjust it. In saying that, a cup thats still got a bit of a fold in it from insertion will spring out when the muscles relax, which is not entirely unpleasant tbh.
I think it's something you learn as you go, your ladybits play by their own rules. I definitely recommend anyone new to cups wears a panty liner to start with, just in case though!
NettleGnome ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:25:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't feel it when mine's full, and I know the feeling you talk about in regards to tampons. I have only had it be full to the point of spilling over once though as I have a very light flow. I usually only empty mine twice a day when I'm on my period, as it's okay to have it in for up to 12h (I've had it in for longer without it causing a problem though, but it's not recommended).
If I were you I'd make the switch and be sure to get one that is pure silicone without any bright colour. If you have a heavy flow there are larger cups, and vice versa for lighter flows. It took me two periods to get used to the whole process of it and I very much recommend research if you're ever unsure of how to use it or store it and sterilise it and such. Google is awesome when you need more info on different types of folds for example.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just recently switched to cups and I admit, I know exactly when my cup feels full. It's almost like it's leaking, like a feeling when your pad is overflowing past capacity. I know that generally the average size can be enough for your entire cycle, but if you're like me, who has a very heavy flow during the first few days, I'd advise caution and get an L size.
Also, I get a weird gurgling noise and apparently I read this is a sign that it's full and needs to be emptied. Generally, a cup can last you 6 - 12 hours. I totally recommend it cause it's so freeing! I feel like so comfortable - except the bloating and cramps but I can't escape those.
Diannika ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:14:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just so you know, you can also get disposable cups. I still reuse them a few times, cleaning in between (usually no more then one day... 2 if im super super broke and only have a couple left) but you can empty them in the toilet and dispose of them like a pad and use a new one. Useful if you are going to be out all day or are on a trip and dont want to have to clean your cup in that/those locations (or when you just DONT have access to a sink in stall)
oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats awesome! I had no idea those existed, thanks!
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no problem. I use(d) Instead Softcup. (its been a long time, since i had 2 children in the last 3 years-ish and havent moved past pads yet since the last. tho double checking the name for you, i found out where near me carries them (my old store doesnt) so i may be back to those next month :) Can't WAIT. I hate pads :/
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go between pads and the cup, sometimes I just don't want to put the cup in :P
Diannika ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeh, its certainly not the EASIEST method to apply...or remove, for that matter. Which is why i havent gotten back to it yet. wasnt worth the hassle to find em when i wasnt sure i could use em yet. But its been a year since my last csection, i should be able to manage now :p
(to clarify, the csection before that, the drs messed up the incision. The most recent one, i actually felt better a week after the csection then i did when i had gotten pregnant a year after the one before, so whatever they did fixed it mostly. But i still have some issues in the area they messed up, so i tend to be SUPER careful with it)
_aziz_light ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have been wondering this, too! Thanks!!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why I never thought of looking for that...
PokefanYargiss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They make unscented wipes specifically for cleaning sex toys, I've heard some gals carry those to clean out their menstrual cups.
swedechick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:37 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are wipes specifically for menstrual cups. At least here in Sweden.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:37:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL I'm either a perfume or a cleanser.
oh__golly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:39:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay, you can still touch the outside.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh! Kinky! ;P /r/outercourse
Of course, in reality, that's about as likely as nothing, because there is no probability of that.
What's interesting is that I'm allergic to perfumes, and also suffer slight asthma, or something like that.
200Tabs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I just took a look at that sub because I didn't even know that it was a thing and I'm almost 40!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not very common, so that makes sense.
thatdogoverthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fairly certain you can find perfume free ones, or hypoallergenic/safe cleaning for things like this. Worth looking for at any rate, would be a damn good market for it.
oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:33:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quick, patent it!
swedechick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:23 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Menstrual cup wipes already exist.
gumboshrimps ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 06:35:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What in the fuck. Remind me to never use a woman's bathroom sink for anything...
oh__golly ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't touch the basin if you're that worried? Everything gets washed down the drain anyway (assuming they weren't raised by wolves). Tbh it would probably still be cleaner than the door handle.
gumboshrimps ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 06:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I try to not let my dick touch the inside rim of the toilet too but it happens. When I'm washing my dick and hands after I shouldn't have to worry about blood diseases hanging around the sink.
oh__golly ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:48:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need to find a source, but you probably have more chance of catching something from the toilet rim than the sink.
Also keep in mind that blood borne diseases need direct blood-to-blood or blood-to-mucus-membrane contact to spread.
I promise you I'm not trying to be a dick no pun intended but I would honestly be more concerned about the faecal matter on your phone, the door handle, the towel dispenser, the rails on the trains and stairs, bodily fluids on train seats etc.
Edit: I'd also like to add that you're being unnecessarily aggressive
gumboshrimps ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 07:00:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I macroagressioning again?!?!?!
I would be worrying about fecal matter too a lot more if people were waddling over to the sink with a sample.
oh__golly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:16:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoopsy accidently deleted my comment.
You're clearly not open to reasoning or have little idea about how viruses survive outside the host, or you would just rather ignore it. Perhaps you have an anxiety or other mental health issue, who knows?
Have a great day/night :)
gumboshrimps ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:48:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you assuming my mental health status?
Awfully aggressive of you...
200Tabs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:16:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right now, I'm worrying about you washing your dick and balls in the sink. Especially in the ladies room....
gumboshrimps ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if we are throwing cups of blood around it should be open season right?
catby ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take it out, dump it then wipe the inside with toilet paper and pop it back in. I'm pretty efficient at using mine now, but it took a bit of practice when i first got it. My first cycle with it i hated the damn thing but i had spent near $40 on it under the premise that it would save me money in the long run, and goddammit, i was hell bent to get it to work. Went online and found some groups about menstrual cups (there are cup subreddits) and learned how to use them properly and some tips and tricks. Been using a cup for 7 years now and i absolutely would never go back.
YoBannannaGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my exact story, going on 10 years and about to final buy my second one. I use a Diva Cup, and need to move up a size.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:22:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a menstrual cup and quite honestly I've never been in the situation where I absolutely NEEDED to change it in a public restroom. You only need to change it once or twice a day. So you can usually just wait until you're home to do it anyways. That's why it's so convenient!
And in situations where you do have to change your cup in a public restroom-- say one that has stalls with separated sinks -- you can empty it out, use toilet paper to wipe the cup down, then reinsert it. Afterwards you can just use toilet paper to open the stall door and then proceed with wash your hands. Menstrual cups aren't as inhibiting as most ppl think they are. They're actually super convenient, plus they aren't time sensitive like tampons :)
Lexilogical ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You and I have ridiculously different experiences with menstrual cups. The only way I got around them being time sensitive was by finding underwear with a built in pad that holds multiple tampons worth of blood. Otherwise, the cup would fill up when I was out of the house, and act like I had nothing at all.
200Tabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a heavy flow and experience that on day 2 (fibroids and PCOS!). Must other days are the more common change rate. I'm liking the wipes idea now that I see it but what I've done in the past reputed a lot of prep if I was using a public restroom. I prepared by getting 2 large portions of the paper to dry hands and dampening 1 then folding both discreetly and entering stall. I put the dry paper on top of the metal or plastic casing for the toilet paper and put my cup on top of that. When I was ready for reinsertion, I wiped the cup with the dampened paper, reinserted the cup, and folded the damp paper into the dry paper. I'd check over the paper to make sure that no blood was showing and then discarding either in the pad receptacle in the stall or the main garbage in the restroom, depending on the grodiness of in-stall receptacle. But most often, I just use a private restroom at work
Lexilogical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I normally just don't bother to wipe it out in public restrooms. I just dump the blood and put it back up there, then clean my fingers with toilet paper until I get to the sink. Not a long term answer, but good enough for "I'm still 6 hours away from a private restroom, and this is overflowing now.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just use toilet paper to clean it out when I'm in a public restroom.
siassias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The poster below explained it pretty well, but it's also worth bearing in mind that they don't need changing as often as tampons. Some people just empty their cup at home in the morning and evening. Obviously it depends on how heavy your periods are, but it's something to think about. I rarely empty mine more than once while I'm out the house in the day.
Bewarethefrozenheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bought these wines called Wysi Wipes. They start out as small dry tablet like things. Take up hardly any room in a bag. When you put water on them they expand to be a disposable towelette. So I take that into the restroom, put water on one before going into a stall, and use it to clean out my cup in the stall. I then just throw it away in the feminine product trash in the stall. No perfumes or dyes, no chemicals, and super simple.
pumpkinrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:26 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If there's no sink in the toilet I sorta shove the bloody cup back in and pretty much cover my hands in toilet paper so I can pull my pants up, flush the toilet and open the door without it looking like a crime scene.
LifeMustard ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god that once happened to me! Luckily I was at home. It had filled up faster than I was expecting, so it was really heavy and sitting lower than usual. When I pushed to poop, the damn thing dropped into the toilet. So, what to do? Flush down the almost brand new $20 cup and destroy the plumbing, or reach into pissy, bloody toilet water? I feel like I washed my hands for days.
oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dropped mine in the toilet trying to insert it!!! Thankfully the water was "clean" haha
God I wouldn't have put my hand in there without a glove, I'm too wimpy. At least it wasn't poopy water?
bedroom_fascist ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:16:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, poop is not your menstrual cup of pee?
toodani ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tried too hard
DaughterofBabylon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely! I mean thats the easiest way to get it to drop within easy grabbing distance, straaaaiiiin but not too hard don't wanna poop by accident.
FikeMosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense, they share a wall.. or is it the pushing?
Orangulent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a little of both.
Hunny_Bunny20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've pushed so hard when I pooped that I pushed out my tampon too lol such a strange feeling.
AzriKel ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take em out cus I can't be bothered fussing with the strings to not soak them, but I know there are women who leave em in.
Tzipity ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intentional string tuck is way easier than removing it. Plus those things hurt if you pull them out before they're uh well saturated. Like dry cotton on dry vagina, ouch.
tehweave ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The important thing is that you were willing to admit ignorance.
And I'm not being condescending. I'm genuinely serious. I'm a man too and I honestly didn't know the answer to this either.
Love_LittleBoo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You definitely leave it in, you use different size tampons throughout your flow so you can remove when it gets full, but not have that take more than a certain number of hours (because that's when you're chances of infection increase. Also just being nasty, bloody rags up in there sitting around would just be nasty).
You want to wait till it's full because if you pull it out sooner, 1) it hurts, dry cotton doesn't really glide 2) because it's dragging you're more likely to open the skin up inside your vagina which exposes you to infection 3) once opened you're then leaving a bloody cotton rag next to an open (tiny, maybe, but still open) wound in a moist, dark, blood filled place (sound like a great way to incubate gram positive bacteria? Because that's how you get deadly bacterial infections that literally kill you within a day of symptoms) 4) the more you drag non-filled cotton swabs around your vag, the more tiny bits of cotton break off, and stay in your vagina, next to open wounds, collecting blood, sitting in a moist dark environment, you get where I'm going with this?
Anyway, that's why menstrual cups are a thing (and awesome if used properly), and why some women prefer pads or menstrual panties (both the squeamish factor and the potential irritation if you misjudge how long you need a tampon in four, or what size to use--and I hope you can get to the toilet in time once it's full because otherwise it's going to start getting bloody in your pants), and why if you say "period panties" to almost any woman she'll nod knowingly instead of cringe like you might expect her to (black are the way to go ladies, it can't stain what's already full of dark dye. Not visibly anyway).
The string is a definite problem though. Thankfully pee is sterile so if you get a bit on the string, wiping normally with toilet paper will get most of and the rest isn't a big deal unless you're an untreated diabetic, and then the sugar in that bloody moist environment...well, you get the idea.
But if you remember in time, you can also just grab the string and tuck or hold it forward and to one side (like pull forward and hold next the the skin, so it's parallel with where the clit is). And then the pee didn't really it it.
200Tabs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This post was both educational and frightening at the same time! I tried tampons only a few times in my youth and encountered both the dry, painful removals and the overfilled states and noped them out of my life. My discovery of cups were life changing.
Love_LittleBoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:36:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad! I started finding out about this stuff after college and basically had a "my education has completely failed me" moment. Women literally die from this shit and it's not even mentioned in mandatory sex ed courses where we go over changes from puberty.
MissPatsyStone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can pee with it in, but it does cause pressure that makes it a little harder to pee. I'm proud of you for thinking of that
Galaher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only a year ago found out that women urethra is not in the vagina. Was impressed with this kind of knowledge.
akambe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mankind thanks you for your bravery. We all benefit.
hockeypup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take them out, so the string won't get wet. But you can leave it if if you so choose.
thegreatbrah ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:59:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This begs the question, what does his wife do with her used tampons?
LuckyShake ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:45:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 30 and I just now stopped flushing mine. Sometimes I still do it out of habit. My mom did get her period and I didn't have anyone to ask questions to, so I naturally assumed that they were meant to be flushed. Yes... I saw the signs in the public restrooms but just thought that they were for pads.
Dauchy ยท -45 points ยท Posted at 03:26:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flush them down the toilets, just like literally everyone else in a first world country?
bigboobjune ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 04:25:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way back when, in the long, long ago I knew this chick on an online forum she regaled us with a story of how she stopped flushing her tampons.
Basically the tampons caught on the buildup inside the sewage pipe, one tampon led to two tampons which led to a clogged pipe. Her parents called a plumber out to fix the problem and it turned out that the plumber was from her family's church. She had a bit of a crush on his son who happened to be working with his dad on that particular day, so she decided to hang around and maybe flirt a little. Well they eventually found the problem and her crush pulls out this huge, stinking wad of wet rotten tampons right in front of her.
She said that church got really awkward after that. Oh and she stopped flushing her tampons. Actually I think she got a forum full of teenage girls to stop flushing their tampons that day.
cousinlazlo ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:44:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This story made my shitty day better. Thank you.
shannibearstar ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 08:44:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can flush as long as it's not septic. Tamping get really full. Dont want to take out the trash 4 times plus a day.
hilarymeggin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:11:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. We don't have septic, but we've had two $1,000 plumbing bills from guests flushing "flushable" wipes.
bigboobjune ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:55:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh if you use so many tampons that you fill up four trash cans a day you have a problem. No seriously you should see a doctor because that is so not normal.
Also you should google what the inside of a residential sewer pipe looks like. Aaaaand maybe read up in what flushable wipes and tampons do to sewage processing facilities. Hint: the workers have to unclog the machinery and they HATE you.
shannibearstar ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The tampon is full. Super bloody and wet. Smells like copper. So I'd have to take out the trash for one tampon.
bigboobjune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No you wrap it in toilet paper and throw it in a trash can with a lid. You don't have to take the trash out every time, you want to.
hilarymeggin ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 03:46:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, you're not supposed to flush them! You're going to give someone a $1,000 plumbing bill when you wreck their ejector pump! Wrap in TP and throw away.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:04:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but "wreck their ejector pump" sounds like a really funny euphemism.
Vivaciousqt ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:53:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, don't do that. Use something to wrap them up and throw them away like you would a pad.
Bad for the plumbing and the environment!
WolfBlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with the plumbing part but can you explain the environment part? How is it sitting in a landfill different than it being flushed? Edit: I'm honestly just wondering guys. No need to downvote for just asking a question.
meggggg ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 03:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally don't know anybody who does this. It's terrible for plumbing.
CeruleanTresses ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:42:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is terrible for plumbing, but a lot of people do it anyway because they don't know. My mom taught me to flush my tampons, which I continued to do until I moved out.
oh__golly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:07:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"So you'll always have me around"
tibtibs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:25:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to because I was always renting and didn't know any better.
Mickeymousetitdirt ยท -27 points ยท Posted at 06:00:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit. I hardly doubt you don't know a single soul that doesn't flush their tampons. Considering almost every single woman menstruates, you surely do know someone.
While I get it isn't great on plumbing, it's utterly revolting to ME to see someone's dried, crusty, scabby-look tampon floating around in my trash can who didn't have the decency to wrap it up in toilet paper. I am more than happy to let my friends flush their tampons when they come over. As a matter of fact, absolutely do flush them.
I flush mine, too. But, I have Mirena and only have a period for, at the most, 2 days. I'll take the risk of "terrible plumbing" issues by flushing all 4-6 of the tampons I may use.
I understand trying to reduce the idea that periods are "gross". But, quite frankly, I really don't want to ever risk coming in contact or touching someone else's blood. Period, end of story. Especially if comes from someone's genitals. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to worship your menstrual cycle (not that you said this) and it's okay to think the sight of clumpy vagina blood is not really appeasing.
__EXTRATERRESTRIAL__ ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 06:14:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother and my school both taught me to wrap your pad/tampon in toilet paper before putting it in the bin. If somebody doesn't wrap their tampons or pads and puts them in your bin you should just call them out on it. They'll never do it again. You will regret not doing so when you have to pay thousands to fix the plumbing.
SquareSquirrel4 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:41:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to go sit over in the corner and think about what you just said.
kristahatesyou ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:16:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally just found out that flushing them is bad and uncommon from the comments. ๐ Thanks, Reddit. I'll stop wrecking plumbing now.
ShrekisSexy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not just wrecking plumbing, the water cleaners will hate you too. It's very expensive to clean stuff like that.
__EXTRATERRESTRIAL__ ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:53:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WTF? Put them in the bin! They will clog the plumbing.
catby ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 08:05:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flush them? That's what most people do?
k1nd3rwag3n ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You really shouldn't do that tho.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:24:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DeskRef ยท 3876 points ยท Posted at 01:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother helps the Amish get dental care. One Amish woman complained that she needed new dentures. When asked why she thought so, she replied, "Well, I've lost weight, and you know that when you lose weight, you lose it in your gums first."
Doctors and dentists: if you're looking for a community to serve, the Amish can truly use your help. I could write a book about the things I've seen.
Rising_Swell ยท 614 points ยท Posted at 03:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we're waiting on that book of yours
[deleted] ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 05:44:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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cindel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:42:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question. Is this thing an extension people use or a joke or an actual feature of reddit/RES?
rattulator ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:13:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None if the above, It's a bot that does it
enchiladasmylove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how?
rattulator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No idea, I'm Guessing it scans threads/posts for the !remindme tag and interprets the amount of time given, then schedules an automatic reply.
The year+ long ones are normally a joke I think though, but there are examples I'm not gonna look up now of it working
enchiladasmylove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:37:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome, I'm going to try it. Thanks.
ConfusingDalek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:49:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remindme! 2 years "I would buy this, /u/Deskref"
TerrainIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 2 years
hbetx9 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:55:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its been 5 hours, at least give them 9 so they can proofread.....
Rising_Swell ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 07:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is reddit, who proof reasd?
hbetx9 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:43:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goqd 1
MagicallyAdept ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:56:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i luaghed at yuor joek!
arnorath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
typpo
icer816 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:02:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He said could, not would. He wasn't too preoccupied with whether or not he could, he stopped to think he shouldn't.
Jokkerb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TL:DR plz
Cod_Metal_King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could โ Will.
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, but we still want that book
drchase16 ยท 577 points ยท Posted at 04:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually not as ridiculous as it sounds. Many elderly people deal with weight loss, due to a number of reasons. As a result they tend to lose muscle mass in their mouth/jaw and it often leads to dentures not fitting properly.
Dentures tend to be very expensive and are usually not covered under insurance, after receiving your first set. This can lead to further exacerbation of issues relating to eating and further weight loss. Kind of sad...
DeskRef ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 04:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea. This woman was about 30, but I'll have to share that with my mother.
movzx ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:26:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kind of imagine Amish people with perfect teeth due to the lack of acidic soda, heavy sugar diets, etc. What did this woman do to lose her teeth at 30?
TheTartanDervish ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 06:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some still practise the "pull everything out around age 21 so you can make dentures of your own teeth and avoid expensive dental stuff later" tradition.
Conchadesumadre ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:21:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't your teeth still get cavities though? And get brittle? That logic don't make a lick of sense to me
TheTartanDervish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:07:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Folk medicine usually doesn't make much sense in the long run - but I guess it's better than buying teeth from FSM-knows-where, especially in the corpse-robbing days (aka the Resurrectionist era)
blammer ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:55:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jfc is this really a thing? That sounds horrible..
Timeyy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:26:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a thing. 200 years ago.
TheTartanDervish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a thing until the Victorian era - once ether was invented it tapered off. But some (sub)cultures still practise it and that may be what happened here.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably would honestly recommend this.
Ferelar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... to your worst enemies?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:47:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. I'm from the south. Dental insurance is expensive. Having your teeth made into dentures sounds like a hassle free toothcare plan.
TheTartanDervish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
South doesn't have much to do with it, more like poverty and lack of anaesthetic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dental insurance is cancer level expensive too. It actually crossed my mind to do this simply because of the benefits of denchers being that I would save money on dental care.
TheTartanDervish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:20:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's about 20$ / month here (Florida) to sock enough away for when you have a crisis, and most doctors do discounts and payments if you're plain with them. It's better to keep your own teeth if you can. Hope it works out for you!
[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 07:25:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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movzx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured carbonation would be against the rules because it's a "pleasure that serves no purpose" (my basic understanding of why some technology is allowed but not others).
Whale_peddler ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:37:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, no. Alot of them don't even have teeth by the time they're 20.
z3r0f14m3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As others have said they pull them all. Idk what the real reason is but back in ye olden tymes where they get just about every other belief they have it was a sign of prosperity to have your teeth pulled at a young age and have dentures. It was even a wedding present for some.
liontamarin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because before modern dental care having your teeth pulled all at once was far easier and less painful than decades of your teeth rotting one at a time.
Kirboid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why everyone says George Washington had wooden teeth?
DeskRef ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neglect. Her children (in elementary school) were the first in their family to have dental care, and they taught the parents how to brush their teeth. Dentures were an inevitable part of life for many. Hopefully, things are improving.
diothar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:13:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually there is a diabetes epidemic in some of the communities up in Pennsylvania. Not enough farm land, so they take up other jobs and are a bit more sedentary than they used to be. Their rich foods are causing problems with decreased exercise.
chewbacca2hot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30 and densures, geez
DeskRef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her children (who are in elementary school) were the first in their family to get regular dental care, and they taught their parents how to brush their teeth. So, it has a positive (?) ending.
leahandra ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:28:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This! I've mostly seen this with elderly in hospice or those about to be at that stage. Eating often becomes painful at that point, partly due to denture problems. It then becomes really difficult to make sure the resident is getting the nutrition they need.
thismaybemean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why my grandma spit her dentures out on her birthday cake that one time? I didn't even know she had dentures until that day.
Trash_panda35 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this. See it a lot in practice with the elderly, or with illness.
supbanana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. I've worked in nursing homes and in hospice and it's very common for dentures to stop fitting right. Also somewhat common was people falling asleep on their back and we would walk in to see them mouth breathing with their dentures loose and in (seeming) danger of choking them. Also x2, very common for people to fall asleep with dentures, have them fall out and get lost in the bedding. Nothing like shaking out the sheets and having teeth and glasses go flying across the room.
leahandra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:26 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never experienced the sheet flying phenomenon. Most of the residents I've had on hospice start to refuse their dentures. I've always made a point of asking and making sure my trainees knew it was important to ask even if they refused the last time.
supbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:03 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. The sheet thing was a common occurence in the skilled nursing facilities. :)
leahandra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:58 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh... That's the sort of thing that would have gotten us written up when the state came in.
supbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, you're not wrong. It was always impressive how, when the state came in, we suddenly had proper staffing and everyone followed protocol. Soon as they were gone, it was back to a cna:patient ratio of 1:16 and the admins encouraged us to care more about speed than quality. Sigh. Believe me, I see where you're coming from. I'm not excusing it, merely remarking on it. That was years ago when I was more naive.
leahandra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:36 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh trust me I know. I switched to working at private assisted livings a long time, generally the patient to care giver ratio was better and there was a better mix of people who needed little care to the level of people on hospice.
ImElkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get outta heeeyya weeya tryina 'ave a chuckle
housevulture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amish get all the teeth pulled young though.
toastyghost ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 09:14:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah or maybe ya put people in a bubble with Jesus for 400 years and they come out fucking retarded
Rpizza ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 02:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So share some here ...
DeskRef ยท 267 points ยท Posted at 04:19:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Briefly (because I'm working), they love salves, and there's a salve I found at an Amish store that purports to "cure AIDS." Let that sink in. They don't educate their children beyond the eighth grade, but they have a cure for AIDS. (TBH, most of these stories are just sad. I have a cat because some Amish boys found her on the farm and wanted to see if she would land on her feet when thrown from a roof. I intervened and kept her. It's hard knowing they don't believe animals should be pets, so they don't know how to treat all of them properly. )
There's also a grisly, unlicensed roving "dentist" in Southwest Michigan who travels to Amish communities and pulls teeth. That's all he does. He gathers a group outside one of their houses, puts up a bed sheet, and pulls teeth. For any reason.
greymalken ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 05:22:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they pay you in well-built furniture and delicious jams?
DeskRef ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:22:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are incredibly kind and have helped my family in so many ways. And yes, we actually do have furniture and jams from them! Ha!
PandaGPiggy ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 04:52:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as they love slaves...
spacepilot_3000 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:11:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are there black Amish people? Like I doubt they have a rule about it or anything, but it would be interesting to see how they handle that, given what I know about their philosophy
LuckyShake ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 05:25:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, Amish are very accepting to other races and ethnicities and are sometimes adopted in. Not often married in though as people are not willing to convert.
Source: raised Mennonite and baby sat by Amish neighbors.
thismaybemean ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:05:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was that show about the gangster Amish people? There was a black guy on there. I think he was unofficially adopted somehow.
rigsta ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:15:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd have thought "don't throw them off a roof" would be a no-brainer O_o
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... I know, right?
[deleted] ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 04:57:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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OhHowDroll ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 05:26:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fairly certain OP wasn't saying "the Amish are solely/primarily the source of animal abuse" but rather that, as one culture among many in humanity, certain values in that community lead to a higher rate of animal abuse than others,
DeskRef ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:58:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's terrible. Glad you saved her.
not_a_witch_ ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate got her cat because she was behind someone in a major road in Houston who threw the poor cat out of a window while going like 45 miles per hour.
The cat is pretty beat up but he's the sweetest thing ever and he gets along great with my big gallup of a Labrador retriever.
Humans can sometimes be animals. Ugh.
SummerBower ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:14:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to see a photo of said cat
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:04:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SummerBower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awwww, that's so nice that you were able to give her a happy home and a second chance at life. Thanks for sharing!
BritneySmears ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was driving down this windy and very busy highway in the foothills in a section where there was 20ft high rock on both sides a mere foot from the white lines. People were slowing down and when I got closer I realized why - somebody dropped a cat off in the road with a bag tied around it's head. Terrible.
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My understanding is not so long ago that sort of thing was common practice even outside of the Amish community. I mean I have a 95 year old grandmother who I think she dentures at an extremely young age (she was 21 when she had my mom and my mom says she never remembers her mother with her own teeth). Both my parents are in their 70s and have some early memories of just having teeth pulled (for my dad the dentist did it without anesthetic and BROKE HIS JAW, at least he was immediately sent to an oral surgeon but I imagine that kind of thing still is happening then in the Amish community).
But most cringeworthy story I ever heard is that my mom's father who was kind of a strange guy anyway used to pull his own damn teeth. He'd drink some alcohol, get a rag, yank em out in front of his traumatized children. Eep!
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, goodness, that made me shiver. Yikes! I can't imagine.
About the Amish, I suspect it's changing. As someone else mentioned, the younger generation knows more about health care and seeks it out. So, they probably have proper anesthetic, etc. But then, there's still the roving tooth puller, who doesn't have to avoid malpractice or follow procedures...
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad it's changing. But sheesh that roving tooth pulled guy sounds horrific. So glad though that the younger generation is learning and seeking better!
BlahblahYaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:35 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt got her first cavity in her 20's, had all her teeth pulled and dentures made so should wouldn't have to deal with the dentist. She Was molested by a dentist as a kid, but still.. teeth are pretty great.
Quackagate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:08:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Michgander here i have a gun and a shovel for that "dentist" if you have any information./s
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes two of us. If he surfaces, the police are going to get to hear about it.
TheTartanDervish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like eastern Africa and much of the Caribbean where I've worked/lived - just rip it out, too much hassle.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes! That sounds like a huge decision to make.
Rpizza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So interesting
matergallina ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:25:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would read that book
StaleTheBread ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/casualIAMA
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes please do an AMA!!!
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, shucks. Someday, but I have a bar exam to study for right now.
missmoneypennymaam ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:16:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Moar
Leohond15 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:00:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I second that I'd like to hear more.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:53:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More
bitchynerd ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:56:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More!!
Achid1983 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:58:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More please!
MageMasterMoon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:09:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please share some more
momsdayprepper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin actually did some work with an "Amish" doctor. The doctor himself wasn't Amish, but the Amish are a very tight knit community who only trust and seek the advice of a medical professional they have thoroughly vetted. My cousin was seen as an outsider until the doctor himself spoke with the village elders (idk if that's what they're called but I'm blanking on the proper term) and gave them his personal commendation of my cousin's character and credibility.
It was a really cool thing for him, he found it so interesting and still visits the families he worked with from time to time.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great to hear that he gained their support and is able to help them. They need more compassionate English (their term for non-Amish) people.
PuffinCurrie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:08:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an Audiologist and patients who lose a lot of weight often have trouble because their hearing aids don't fit properly any more. So the denture thing doesn't sound like such a far stretch to me.
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goodness, I didn't know that. I'm learning so much about weight loss from this thread alone.
2_Ducks_in_a_Handbag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather owns a dental lab where me makes dentures and other implants. This is a very common occurrence in the elderly, especially the sick. They lose mass in their gums causing their dentures to fall out. Resizing is something he has to do often
ADMIRALMOTORS ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:53:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm this is true. Losing weight can affect the fit of dentures. You have to remember, these suction to the roof of your mouth. Something as small as a grain of sand can cause a sore the size of a quarter. Even the slightest change, like that from weight loss, can be aggonizing.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:14:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please excuse me, I have to go brush my teeth forever. Eesh.
graciebels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In her defense, even a 10 pound weight loss can effect the way dentures fit.
dingoransom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I saw on Breaking Amish was enough for me.
kratos649 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'll have to help the men first, then the boy children, then the girl children. In that order. If there's any time left, help the women. That's how they roll in that particular cult.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, yeah. That's how dinner goes, too.
chewbacca2hot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A noble, yet highly uneducated people lol. All the Amish people I see around here are kind, quiet people. Sometimes I see the male teenagers doing cool shit like riding horse and farm equipment like a war chariot
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome! And it's true. People are people, and they vary like any community. But, there's a wry wit among them. And sometimes I forget certain things are foreign to them. When my family visits Amish friends, we tone down our clothing out of respect. But once, in the summer, my mother wore sandals and forgot about her bright pink pedicure. She wondered why the children kept watching her feet. Well, because toenails aren't normally pink! They had a laugh about that.
rosegold85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is true. My mom wears dentures. She said when she loses weight, her dentures don't fit right, they're loose.
JackassiddyRN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....actually weight loss can and does affect the gums and can cause the dentures to no longer fit correctly.
GODDAMNFOOL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where can I place my preorder?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably misheard gams.
Theboozehoundbitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and I live in Amish Country Pennsylvania. He used to work in a pharmacy and they served a woman who came in to buy for a couple of Amish families regularly. He told me each time she'd buy dozens of tubes of yeast infection cream. Every month, dozens and dozens of tubes that these women requested. There's a lot of basic wellness, especially sexual wellness, that their communities tend to be poorly educated on.
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly that. I'd be interested in knowing more about his experience as a pharmacist in that community. Did the Amish lady have any apprehension about ordering such a sensitive item, or was she very frank about it?
Theboozehoundbitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:37 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, it was an English lady (they refer to all non-Amish as English) who did shopping for Amish families. So basically these families would give her lists of what they needed and this woman would run out and get it on scheduled days, then charge a delivery fee. A lot of Amish purchase things you get from stores like pharmacies this way to save the time a buggy or scooter trip would take, but I do wonder if part of the reason for sending someone else could be to avoid the 'shame' associated with buying personal items. Especially those of the genital related variety.
Sdaolnwod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do that. But here. And right now.
Edit: Please
Innerouterself ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:39:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with Amish folks sometimes. They are hilarious. Great sense of humor. Ruthless business folks and wacky as fuck. They all seem fairly intelligent in spite of not having much of an education.
Set part is since they don't grow up with phones their phone eticate is hilarious. They just hang up when done. No goodbyes most of the time.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! And you're right, there is a wacky sense of humor. I wish more people got to see the lighter side of their culture.
moxpox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Amish and I disagr...wait, nvm
Plague_Girl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How receptive are Amish people to getting treated by doctors and dentists?
DeskRef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, I'd say they are quite receptive to care, but don't always seek it out. And sometimes they don't know to. There have also been instances, in our case, when dental offices have been rude to them, which can be discouraging. It comes from lack of exposure on both sides. So, having an advocate to go with them to the doctor or dentist is very helpful. They don't know how to navigate the system and illiteracy is still a problem, so it helps if someone explains what the doctor has prescribed, for instance.
Also, they need reliable English drivers to take them to appointments, etc. They often take what they can get in rural areas and sometimes their drivers are unsafe. There's no Angie's List for drivers, say. We subscribe to the regional Amish newsletter, and there are stories of accidents caused by impaired (intoxicated) English drivers. It's so sad. Anyway, that was more than you'd asked, but I thought I'd share. Thanks for asking!
Plague_Girl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really interesting, thank you for sharing more! :)
hollysglad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Amish Country. As someone who grew up helping them in their fields for years, I agree they need so much help in the medical area. Most new age do go to doctors but the older sects are still in the house-call-only-if-you-are-on-your-death-bed stage.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly - - and I'm glad you mentioned that. Access to care is improving, but the need is still there. (Working and living with the Amish, I bet you've had some excellent food.)
hollysglad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived right over the hill and after picking whatever crop was done, or working in the stables, we'd get some delicious meals! My dad's step mother was amish from the northern part of our state and her dad broke away during Rumspringa, she passed on some amazing recipes to my mom and I'm still trying to get them down because most aren't supposed to be written, they're scensed.
MaliciousHippie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:29:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please more stories
Actionmaths ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The amish need help in more ways than one...
L0ckesmith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any idea if the Amish need a social worker/therapist? Sign me up.
DeskRef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:38:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like the kind of good person they need!
I'm very sure most Amish communities need both, particularly a social worker. They also need someone to help them apply for social services.
Many are unfamiliar with the process, and illiteracy is quite high. For instance, my mother helped a family apply for government assistance. It's hard to document income when they don't keep records of transactions. The family had sold a buggy, and they needed a record of those proceeds, which counted as income. Anyway, there's a way to determine the value of the buggy, but it was needlessly difficult. So, in summary, they need help getting help.
Edit: I also wanted to add that they need help avoiding child neglect. There's a knowledge gap, I think. The parents are largely very devoted to their families and aim to raise their children well. But, I don't think there's enough education about childcare and children's needs. A poultice will not cure everything. (And don't get me started on children's education.) I know terrible stories about accidents that didn't need to happen and injuries that went untreated. I know a little girl, for example, who didn't need to lose a finger the way she did. It's heartbreaking. They need more resources.
L0ckesmith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for your confidence! It definitely is heartbreaking to know that there are entire communities of people who are having these issues but there is so little said about it outside that culture. The only times I ever hear about the Amish is when someone wants a recipe or wants to talk about a culture they consider weird or other. Thank you for spreading information and having a good heart for these people, though.
Deservate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd buy that book
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:34:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to read that book.
sebast13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather had brain damage that left him partially paralyzed. He initially lost ~120 pounds at the hospital and his dentures didn't fit anymore. I hear it can be due to change in jaw muscles.
DeskRef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that. And I had no idea weight loss had this kind of impact.
DJ_GiantMidget ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do it!
BubblegumDaisies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grew up within a stones throw from one of the largest Amish communities in the world. They really do need you.
ssSerendipityss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or an AMA???
DeskRef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, thanks. I currently have zero free time, but thanks for being interested.
itsthevoiceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do it!!
nilsrva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:48 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please write this book
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had no idea that the Amish had such a problem with elderly methamphetamine addicts. How tragic.
NiggerFaggotJewFuck ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:22:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amish ppl are fucking idiots lol
bunbunmelon ยท 770 points ยท Posted at 00:07:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a newly minted graduate with fresh and optimistic views on my life as a doctor. Second week in came this old lady and her very dysfunctional family.
They would argue and complain about everything, from the food, the nurses they didnt like and every single medical decision we made. She was very very sick so her management was just as complicated.
She had several children and they all didnt like one another and would not talk to one another. Each time we would have to explain a long update to every single one of them because they "are entitled to hear it from a doctor".
One of these stories being sitting down and explaining why you don't give gatorade as an IV drip. They did not understand why we were giving "salt water" to her.
Conversation with her son:
"Look she likes gatorade, she is drinking it so why cant you give it to her through her drip?"
We explain why.
Son frowns. "But its isotonic."
We explain again.
"Yes but gatorade has more electrolytes."
We explain again.
"Salt water just seems to be too cheap. Cant you give her something else closer to gatorade? That has electrolytes?"
Continues for two hours. Wash and repeat every day during her admission.
Afterwards I told my fiance. He opened up a scene from Idiocracy on youtube and I just sat there with my mouth open for a while.
HansumJack ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 02:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoulda just told them the next day you got her a new IV drip with electrolytes this time.
iCameToLearnSomeCode ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 03:41:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a lie... salt is an electrolyte.
Trilliam ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 10:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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helpmefindafit ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 08:18:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER nurse here...I was administering a bolus through a pump at 1200 ml/hr (fairly fast rate). The patient's 4 adult daughters stood around watching the drip chamber in awe. "It's going in good! her body is thirsty!"
No, that's not how IV pumps work. I realize it was a moment for patient education but I was just struck speechless, and so were my colleagues when I related this story.
Same family: I asked for a urine specimen, told them the specimen cups were in the bathroom. One of the daughters asked, "What if they're used?"
I really wanted to say, "Just keep diggin' till you find a clean one, lab will separate the pee out!" but I just looked at her and was like "They're new" in the most serious tone I could muster.
Cpt_Tripps ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 11:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My GF had to spend a good amount of time explaining that IV fluid is clear and that just because you can't see fluid going in doesn't mean your IV isn't working.
ImmaRussian ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:28:02 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a brief hospital stay a few months ago, and they had an IV in me for a few days. I could see the fluid moving because it had tiny little bubbles in it. I remember watching the IV tubes and spending a lot of time looking at the little bubbles in the tube thinking "Is my blood ok with having little bubbles in it? I hope they don't turn into a big bubble, I've heard that can lead to an embolism, which is supposed to be really bad, whatever it is. There's more bubbles... Why does it keep making bubbles? Stop making bubbles... Noooooooo, bubbles, why?"
FluffySharkBird ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had surgery once as a kid, and they never told me ahead of time that the IV drug administrating thing would take up my blood first. I just assumed drugs would go DOWN into me. I started freaking out when my blood crept up like in some horror movie.
n3svaru ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 00:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its got what plants crave
daitoshi ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:55:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you've never seen plants grow out of a toilet
KnifeKillx100 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:30:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water? Like outta the toilet?
daitoshi ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:56:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ELECTROLITES POWERLITES MORE LIGHTS THAN YOUR BODY HAS ROOM FOOORRR
HL-21 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:08:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But brawndo has electrolytes
Arcian_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:58:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IT'LL MAKE YOU WONDER WHY YOU'VE NEVER CRUSHED A HUMAN SKULL WITH YOUR FISTS BEFORE!
daitoshi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:07:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SO MANY BABIES
Calander ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm baffled that he seemed to know the word "isotonic", but apparently not how that relates to electrolytes.
ciny ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 09:39:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"isotonic" and "electrolytes" were probably used in advertising. So he only knows the words exist but not necessarily their meaning.
tabatux7 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:57:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if reasonably indicated, you could order a banana bag or have the pharmacy add a multivitamin solution (which is typically yellow) to the IV bag. Something about that neon yellow color that sets certain people at ease. And looks like gatorade ๐
csoup1414 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:29:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL lol. I work as registration in the ER and always wondered why some were yellow and some not. I thought that maybe a patient was begging for medicine so they gave them a colored fluid so they would think its medicine.
dustoff87 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:07:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brawndo's got electrolytes. But do you even know what electrolytes are?? It's... What they use to make Brawndo!
Majus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:36:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have just switched to Hartmanns'/compound sodium lactate, cause its got more electrolytes. Problem being of course that they'll think they were right.
Sunlit5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should have told them that she wasn't a plant.
casparh ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never, and most likely will never, visited North America, but I get a distinct impression that this occurred in the southern states?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:00:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Add multivitamin to the bag - it'll make it look like Gatorade. :)
ayannauriel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's got what plants crave!
theeviltwin1223 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK as I was reading this I was totally thinking Idiocracy!
tywren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:46 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brondo - It's got what plants crave.
jaZoo ยท 1340 points ยท Posted at 23:27:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While on dermatological rotation, a Middle Eastern patient saw me with what she described as some funny, itching growth in her butt crack. Some quick investigation revealed it to be a severe case of genital warts. I explained the diagnosis and that it was an STD until she shockingly assured that she was still a virgin. Now virginity is a big issue for young muslim women (or perhaps their families even more), but apparently that doesn't cover anal sex and therefore no birth control in the form of, say, condoms was needed.
EDIT: I thought I share another story but this time with a colleague being the one acting stupidly. This was when I finally made it to neuroradiology and in comes this mother whose maybe three, four months old son we would scan today because he had epileptic seizures after his birth. Apparently, the paediatricians didn't tell her about the fits nor the severe neurological birth defects they knew about for weeks so I had to explain her that her child had mental disabilities. That was probably the first time I flipped out on a colleague I didn't even know over the telephone and, in the heat of the moment, wanted to find this idiot and spit in his face. He was totally oblivious of how he fucked up, saying there was a language barrier while this hospital employs a whole department of translators just for such cases.
helm ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 09:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On bad information:
The only time I became pissed off at my local health care was when my then 3-year-old fell onto a stone tile by the fireplace and went out cold for ten minutes. We called an ambulance and got him checked. Nothing dangerous had happened, he was fine. We got no information or diagnosis on his injury. About a week later he vomits after an hour of watching a movie. We got to hear that "Oh, you let him watch a movie after a concussion? Don't do that.". Well, maybe the doctor should have informed us:
dontbelikebecky ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:01:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a bad concussion from being hit by a car and hitting the windshield of the car and then the ground. I was 17. They assumed that by telling my mom to just let me rest a lot and don't put screens in front of me that she wouldn't try to bring me to school. They thought I was way to out of it to even stay awake long enough to get there. They were wrong. When I saw the trauma specialist two weeks after I got out of the hospital they were horrified when my mom asked them for medicine that will help me not throw up every time I go to school because the school kept making her pick me up after a couple of periods due to my nausea, migraines, and falling asleep.
They freaked out that she was sending me to school and said I shouldn't even be getting out of bed. The worst two weeks of my life, no kidding.
TheArtOfDarkness ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:43:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a fractured skull from the same type of collision, and they advised my parents to make me stay in bed - and off school - for a month.
At the time, I was bored beyond belief, and just wanted to get back to my normal life. I never realised the alternative to bed rest would have been constant sickness and delayed healing. I was lying in my room all day - of course I felt fine!
Although I managed to get mono a few months later, and by that point, I was so sick of being 'sick' that I allowed myself a few days off, then forced myself to get on with life.
Muju2 ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 02:46:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the good old poophole loophole. Across culture and religion alike
Vaadwaur ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one thing Jesus and Muhammad agree on!
Klowned ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... Do Christians use "thighing" with their premenstrual wives?
I know Muslim practitioners do, but do Christians?
elcapitan520 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:00:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard about a lot of soaking, but thighing is new
hazelbuttnutt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intercrural sex?
I imagine that would depend on the Christian.
Vaadwaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:56:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is, to my knowledge, considering a gay practice, and a bit of a rare one at that.
isapika ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:52:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Regarding the first story: https://youtu.be/CS4wptwMfwQ
I've seen this reasoning in action in a few different bits of Texas
jaZoo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:25:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm not the one to blame them for their religious beliefs and customs. Unless they harm others it's their personal business. But it makes you wonder how bad their sexual education is at that point as if sexuality was a fairytale world full of simple rules and codes to follow. At least when it comes to STD, a little more information would be desirable.
bedroom_fascist ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 04:56:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got me hot. Especially liked the blonde. Nice outfits.
Minnmedstudent ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 00:25:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, that's a hard situation to be put into (the second story). A diagnosis like that can be hard to explain to someone when you're both speaking the same language. Sometimes people have to hear the same thing from multiple sources before they're ready to believe it. I was the third person to tell a patient that they had terminal cancer, but I was the first one that they even acknowledged having told them. It wasn't because the other docs were bad communicators or had beat around the bush too much, I don't think. Sometimes people just aren't equipped to understand a diagnosis like that the first time through. The other docs (in both of our cases) probably should have taken the time to be more certain that the patient understood the situation I guess.
jaZoo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:19:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's certainly often the case when patients don't understand the consequences of their diagnosis right away. But then again, it's my job to try everything so they understand. The moment they leave the hospital I don't know if they will take proper care so I should at least make sure that somebody else looks after them. However, I'm not typically the one anymore who has to deliver the diagnosis to the patient, so this is probably easier said then done.
CyberClawX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing the wide range of medical terms, we assume are widely known, and just some very personal misconceptions won't help.
Lexidoodle ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 09:12:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the hell did he decide to just not tell her because of a language barrier? This is just galling. Even if there wasn't a translator available, you call a local college or something and find someone. I would have flipped out too. What the fuck man?
jaZoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, exactly my reaction. This hospital goes great lengths to make sure that no matter what exotic language its patients may speak, there is either a translator at hand or it will call the respective embassy and get one.
supbanana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:38 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to address the contacting a college point, HIPAA laws protect patient confidentiality so that's not an option. Still, this is why hospitals have translators, there was no excuse for this.
Lexidoodle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:33:08 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would that be the case still if she agreed to it? I.e. "Are you alright with me translating what this doctor is saying for you so he can be sure that you understand fully?" I mean, what happens in emergency situations or when people don't speak a common language that would have a translator handy?
supbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:01 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the patient signs a release of information it's possible it could work, but it would be overly complicated to call a college or other business, ask to speak to someone that might speak a language (no way to know for sure), and then how do you explain to this 'translator' the situation without identifying the patient or their health problems? It is a very slippery slope to a very legally not-so-fun area and should really be avoided. This scenario would really never happen.
In a good hospital, they already have translators that people can call, so if you're using the phone to get a translator anyway, you may as well go with one that has been properly vetted and that is contracted with the hospital. If there is an emergency and you don't have this service available, as it seems it was with OP, you likely have larger problems that really need to be addressed. One alternative may be to have the patient bring in someone that can translate for them.
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 06:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Stellapacifica ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 08:56:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting in another horrible way, as well - if a female-bodied person has vaginal sex for the first time, with no vaginismus or other condition, and is decently aroused/lubed, there will be no blood. Hell, the hymen doesn't usually cover the whole area in the first place, and is very stretchy, and can grow back if it's torn! So blood on the sheets is extremely unreliable and cruel, as it requires both pain and a dice roll on her part with no such investment on his.
I'm sure that plenty of gals in such situations are perfect virgins but don't bleed because they're naturally wet (or heaven forbid enjoying themselves with a gentle partner).
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:51:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Stellapacifica ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Completely agreed. Personally I think the whole idea of virginity is antiquated and we need worldwide comprehensive sex ed. You'd think that would be evolutionarily supported... Guess not.
Amplitude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, there are so many people still uncertain of the whole concept of Evolution. :[
With that being the case, up-to-date and empowering Sex Ed will take longer.
Stellapacifica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uncertain? They flat out believe that a red man with horns who lives underground made it up so that we'd be his roommates.
duowl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:38:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's that important, you make sure.
Sharpen one fingernail into a point, discreetly cut yourself at some point during the activities, proof of virginity assured.
Yourstruly0 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:09:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of them inserting, sometimes surgically, a small packet of oxblood that will tear on their wedding night. It seemed to be a somewhat lucrative but very secretive business based on the video I watched.
jaZoo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:30:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, that's also what I heard. To clarify, I'm in a major European city with a large, mostly well integrated Muslim community. So law is obviously way more liberal but you never know about implicit or explicit values within the family. I guess, once you acknowledge the (moral) system at play, the reasoning is rather understandable.
SmokingBun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you come from a backwards country and are living in a 1st world nation; then you must follow 1st world laws. Don't care what you believe back home. And if you don't like it? Well, there's the border.
I'm Indian myself living in India but if moved abroad I sure as hell not bringing the cultural baggage... ech!
Though to be fair I'm a liberal living in Delhi so not much punch there...
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:02:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welp, now I need to go murder a pediatrician.
Batikha87 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:39:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
both your stories are so sad, but I feel even worse for the girl because like you rightly say, sex ed in the Middle Eastern culture is so lacking that I have heard worse stories than yours and I am not even a doctor. I think the worst of them all being the fact that the society vehemently denies that everyone, has extramarital affairs and/or has multiple sexual partners and that in addition to the religious teachings about sex, we need to talk about sex and STDs. Unfortunately, we get shut down every time before we are able to even talk about it.
Amplitude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen /r/MuslimNoFap? It's eye-opening.
Batikha87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll check it out.
One-Hundred-FiftyAte ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:50:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the ol' poop hole loop hole
FastidiousBrisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chicago?
jaZoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhere in Europe.
serialmom666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a niece with severe disabilities including somewhat intractable seizures: her mother was constantly reassured by the pediatricians that everything was fine. My sister was at the point of questioning her own sanity when something occurred to her...She told the pediatrician that she was not going to sue, she just needed to understand her child's condition. At that point they leveled with her about the severity of my niece's condition.
save_the_last_dance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does. She's a fucking moron. There's never even been the shadow of a ghost of the faintest hint of an argument for this. She deserves the STD's, that's pants on head stupid.
z3r0f14m3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spit in his face? This causes AIDS right?
All_names_taken-fuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought this said "funny, twitching growth" Did not sound funny
Mattzilla93 ยท 1342 points ยท Posted at 00:49:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EMT here, I had a grown adult try to explain to ME that someone else shit his pants. Got toned out for finger pain at a homeless shelter at 0200, we get there and the guy jumps in the truck with very mild swelling to the tip of his right index finger. Here's how the conversation went:
Me: so what happened?
Patient: I smoked some meth and then I fell asleep in my bunk and I woke up next to my bunk and my finger hurt and there was poop!
Me: there was poop..? Did you fall in poop..?
Patient: no no, like in my pants!
Me: so... you pooped your pants?
Patient: no! It wasn't me!
Me: so let me get this straight... you smoked meth, took a nap, rolled out of bed in your sleep, hurt your finger, and someone ELSE came along and shit in your pants before you woke up...?
Patient: yeah! It wasn't me!
Thylatron ยท 187 points ยท Posted at 02:27:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH MY GOD! SOMEBODY PUT SHIT IN MY PANTS!
finallyoneisnttaken ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:46:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GLENN, THIS IS A COURT ORDER! IT SAYS YOU CAN'T SHIT IN PEOPLE'S PANTS ANYMORE!
pampamperam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:15:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bring on season three!
ZombeeAndroid ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:49:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understood that reference.
MasterTentacles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:13:56 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy hell, I need to dig out my old comics now.
moreboards ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 05:51:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once got really drunk on newyears awhile ago. Went to sleep and some homeless guy broke into my house and pissed in my bed while me and and my gf slept there.
True story.
Mattzilla93 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 06:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god that's amazing because it's not happening to me ๐
zephyer19 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:26:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may of come from an old joke. Guy is in a bar, drunk as could be and spills a beer on his shirt. He tells the bar tender that his wife will be mad as hell that he had spent money on booze and messed up his shirt. Bartender tells him to put ten bucks in his shirt pocket and when wife starts to talk about his shirt to pull out the ten and tell her some other guy spilt the beer on him and gave him ten to get it cleaned. He gets home and wife starts going off about the shirt and he pulls out the bill and says "Honey, another guy spilt this beer on me and he gave me ten bucks to get the shirt cleaned." Wife says "this is a 20." Oh, he shit in my pants too.
Thinnestspoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am so glad you posted this! I was about to start a Google search for it.
xdrakennx ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:56:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does one fall asleep on meth??
RobertAPetersen ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:22:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy enough after 4-7 days of not sleeping. In fact sleep will hit you in the middle of whatever you happen to be doing when you get to the point where your body just says 'Nope, we're going to bed'.
I've seen people fall asleep at the table while eating, under a truck they're fixing, while playing video games, whatever. Damn near mid sentence, boom, asleep.
xdrakennx ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:32:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but on meth???
RobertAPetersen ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:34:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The examples above were specifically people on meth, whom I witnessed falling asleep.
I used to hang with an interesting crowd...
squishyface3 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:46:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once fell asleep on my kitchen floor whilst cooking the last bit if food I had (was on meth), woke to burnt food :(
Glu7enFree ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:58:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, stay awake for long enough and you'll start to go on the nod regardless of drug.
boomboomk9000 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that when untreated my insomnia is only one day away from meth head levels.
ChompyGator ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:38:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you watch Fight Club and think, "Yeah, that could totally happen to me" too?
boomboomk9000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:17:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't seen it, too busy trying to sleep
Sigilus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:46:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That second to last statement was a clusterfuck. Brilliant!!
WeeWooBooBooBusEMT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sounds legit...
OneGoodRib ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's unreasonable to think another person also on meth took off that guy's pants, pooped in them, and then put them back on the guy.
Mattzilla93 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:33:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've imagined the logistics of this situation thousands of times and I strongly feel that the shitter would pull down the back of the shitee's pants, squat above them, and then return their pants to their original position. It's even easier than fully removing their pants
ursois ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next time I find someone passed out this is exactly what I'm going to do.
KingKnee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL! I blamed my twin brother for shitting my pants as a child.
CatLadyNurse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:46:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of an older Iranian guy I used to hang out with. He'd fart real loud, look around all startled and declare, "Oh my! Somebody farted in my pants!"
bootscallahan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:14:57 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend, during our Iraq tour, actually had someone else shit his pants. There's a long, hilarious story, but here's the TL;DR:
He contracted ulcerative colitis while in Baghdad, so he was shitting like 20 times a day. His squad went to different base 30 minutes away and he immediately ran to the latrine. The Sri Lankan guy mopping the floor pointed at the toilet at the end and said some stuff in his language. My friend rushed to that stall and opened the door, dropped his pants, and landed on the toilet all in one motion. He used his elbow to give the Sri Lankan guy a courtesy flush and the water and shit overflowed into his pants, which were tucked into his boots. The Sri Lankan guy was telling him that toilet was broken. There was several days of other people's shit in that thing, and most of it filled up his pants.
EDIT: I guess that wasn't too much of an abbreviated version. Maybe TL;DR wasn't accurate.
VampireSurgeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one made me laugh.
LUshooter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ugh, I feel your pain dude....
EvilNinjadude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaand upvoted. How high do you have to be to think someone's gonna believe that...
violent_king ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kept waiting for the part where it tied back to why his finger hurt. Certainly that must have been related?
Mattzilla93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most likely, his finger hurt because he was cold, wet, and had a strange shit in his pants. It's very common to get a call for a BS complaint as a reason for a warm bed for the night
Dealthagar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty serious party when you got other people shitting in your pants.
lirenotliar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dont fall asleep first at the sleepover, and no one will drop the dog turds down the back of your shorts. isnt this a lesson everyone learns?
guto8797 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is much better if you read the it wasn't me in dunkey's voice
ipoopinotherpplspant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. That was me.
IndianSpongebob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that in the voice of Dr. House...
ElderlyPowerUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its sad how many sad cases of mental disability lead to homelessness.
On the plus side. Meth!
Jungleiam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:52 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took a nap on meth?
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I belib hem
iknowdanjones ยท 2382 points ยท Posted at 00:07:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother is a general practitioner in rural Tennessee. Enough said, right?
He says most of his patient visits go about like this:
MD "Well, person, you're pre diabetic, have high blood pressure, and are complaining about joint pain. Have you been exercising and cutting out sugar and carbs?"
Person "yeah I have, doc, but it doesn't seem to help. Do you have any better meds you could prescribe?"
MD "well, let's talk about your diet. How much water do you drink a day?"
Person "I don't like water, so I get extra ice in my sweet tea every day to make sure I get enough water."
MD (explains how that's not enough water by a long shot) "how much sweet tea are you drinking every day? Those can have a lot of sugar in them."
Person "well I get a large one from Hardee's/McDonalds/ wherever on my way to work with my breakfast, and another one on my way home for dinner. Then I have a glass or two when I get home."
MD "well, that's a lot of sugar. And a lot of fast food if you are eating it twice a day. What do you eat at home?"
Person "I don't like to cook so I usually don't eat anything but little Debbie snack cakes at home."
MD "those have a lot of sugar too..."
Person "I thought that all I had to do was cut out Mountain Dew! Now you're saying I can't eat my food or my snacks?! What are you suggesting I do? Eat salads for every meal?! Why can't you just up my meds?!"
[deleted] ยท 386 points ยท Posted at 05:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once I worked with a guy who had some sort of blood thinning meds at lunch. For half an hour afterwards he couldn't stand bright light (ie just the normal overhead lights in the warehouse, a lot dimmer than sunlight).
He told me it was heart medication and the doctor had told him to fix his diet. His diet, at least at lunch at work, was like a full English breakfast - 2 eggs, bacon, sausages, all fried, plus toast. He also told me he wasn't about to change a damn' thing, that if he had to give up the food he liked he might as well be dead.
I thought then that he was a sad bastard if the only thing worth living for was greasy food. He was married too, to a very nice lady.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 13:08:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive known a few people like this and I just dont get it.
I'll do what I want and just die younger!
Really?! so you are going to die early for some pasties? Leave your daughter behind, your wife, your whole family. None of that is worth putting the fork down?
TheMercifulPineapple ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:10:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not an easy death, either. People don't seem to understand the damage diabetes can cause. I hope those pastries are worth the gangrene and foot amputation that are in your future.
BroadStreetElite ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with a guy who had a gangrenous leg and untreated diabetes. He has a can of soda at every break, starting with one coca-cola at 7 in the morning. The only thing I ever see him eat is carbohydrates, usually just eating a bag of Portuguese rolls at lunch, never get's any fiber. Guy refuses to go to the doctor because "They don't help him", all I have seen him do to treat his leg is some anti-biotics which I do not know how he scored. His leg smells like death, in a large room you can still smell the stench of decaying skin, it was enough for me to complain about him even being in the lunchroom with us. He disappeared from work a couple weeks ago, and I am not even sure if he is still alive, he literally couldn't walk on his leg anymore because the pain was unbearable. Most people felt bad for him, but he was a real asshole, he did nothing to better his situation, almost seemed like he wanted to die but was afraid to kill himself. If he really wanted to die though, there would be much better ways of doing it than letting your body go septic.
supbanana ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:20:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, diabetes is very serious. I had a patient whose toes started to die and the doc recommended amputating the leg. She refused. By the time she died some months later... there's no describing it. The back of her leg from the knee down had literally rotted off, the meat was hanging in strands. Her toes were black and mummified-looking, shrivelled and dried out, and pulling away from the meat of her foot. I've never seen anything like it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:02:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or even just the pure weight of their body just destroys their knees, back etc.
I've seen people who can't even cope with standing up for long or a short walk because their body just gives in.
GordonRamsayVevo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:14:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the attitude of pretty much everyone in my family with diabetes (which is like 70% of them). They normally don't have the money for meds or eating all that healthy, which I understand but they also hate each other and fried food is normally their one joy so they just eat it and don't care.
TokyoJokeyo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people can both eat healthier and save money. There's lots of foods that require no preparation that are better and cheaper than fast food, for instance.
GordonRamsayVevo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:26:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people in my family were below the poverty line, had virtually no money coming in, lived in food deserts, and realistically needed to be cared for by someone else. While that may be an option for some people, it wasn't for most of the people in my family which is honestly how most of them got to be that unhealthy in the first place.
GloriousFireball ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:59:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better is pretty subjective, maybe healthier but I really doubt they're tastier
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually eating healthier is really cheap: chicken, salmon, tuna, wheat bread, beans, rice, lean beef, turkey, etc.
These are all things you can buy in large quantities for relatively low prices in the US. Spices & sauces are recommended if you can afford them, but aren't necessary.
The whole "I can't afford to eat healthy" thing is born of ignorance as to what is actually healthy to eat - usually fruit or really expensive prep meals/snacks which may be healthy, but aren't necessary.
TL;DR: you can eat canned chicken, veggies, and rice for a month for like $20, fam.
GordonRamsayVevo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:38:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna refer you to my reply to the comment above.
TopherMarlowe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:59:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not enough canned chicken, veggies, and rice to live on for a month, fam. Where do you live?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll admit $20 for a month is an exaggeration. It's more like 2 weeks, give or take
I live in MS though so prices are relatively low here when compared to the rest of the US (although so are wages).
I'm going off of the idea that the average human needs roughly 1200 calories to not begin starving (although most will still begin to drop weight).
TopherMarlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, well thanks for admitting you wildly exaggerated something you presented as fact.
So "to not begin starving" is your standard for food expenditure for the poor?
BTW, 1600 calories were allotted to people in concentration camps and they were not exactly healthy.
You clearly spout "info" with no backing and then enjoy sitting back and blaming the poor for their poorness.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:42:35 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people on concentration camps were a fair bit more active than the average worker in the developed world. So, yes, 1200 is still enough.
The reason I used "not begin starving" as the cut-off is because true poverty, someone who has twenty dollars to spend on groceries, can't exactly afford to eat much more.
I'm sorry that for some reason this offends you so much, but my point remains that it doesn't cost nearly as much as people think to eat healthy.
Lemme break it down:
Box of minute rice - 300 cals per 1/2 dry cup, around $7 for a 37 serving box
Canned tuna - 45 cals per pack, around $6 for an 8 pack, 16 servings of 18 per 8 pack
Water - $1 for a gallon
You may not be able to live well, but it's entirely possible to eat for a good bit on $20, and to have the basic carbs + protein down.
Furthermore, I never once said I "blame the poor for their poorness." If you look at my post history you'll note that I'm a working class American. In Other words: I am poor.
Zantre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:00:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get it if you have kids or a wife, then you have to be responsible.
But some of us actually just don't care, and would rather enjoy life the way we want and die early as a result.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheTulipWars ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anyone who doesn't love my steamed broccoli with a pinch of sea salt and a little cheese. ... on second thought, I'm not sure that's very healthy, haha. It tastes delicious though!
BrutalWarPig ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:28:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair it's healthier then my normal Doritos. Baby steps
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that argument but it seems such a waste from my point of view.
To see someone walking around with constant back and knee problems, unable to sleep comfortably, constant health problems, all because they just want to eat crap constantly.
I would never want to tell someone the way to live their life, its their life to live and all that. But surely its an unhealthy (mentally and physically) way to live? Its like its just a socially acceptable form of alcoholism or substance abuse.
Yeah they enjoy it or depend on it at the time, but it wrecks their body afterwards.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was more or less what I thought at the time.
In_Odd_We_Trust ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 06:14:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ron Swanson?
[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 06:39:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know what I'm about son.
mows down an entire plate of bacon
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:37:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh Ron Swanson puts the food to use though. He's portly and has a working mans body, not in any semblance of bad health.
demostravius ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:28:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the record that is actually a healthy meal if following a keto diet (if you leave out the toast). It's got lots of healthy fats, maybe a bit high on the protein, but if dinner had some vegetables, then bam. Good days food.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, TIL...
However, the guy was overweight and on heart medication so I don't think he was very healthy.
demostravius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:02:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it goes very wrong very quickly if you have anything with a GI over about 15 for breakfast or dinner. Say potatoes, or porridge, cereal or pasta.
LyndsySimon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:27 on February 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
+1
I'm on keto now, and have lost 15 pounds in about three weeks. My most common meal is sausage and eggs.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eggs aren't too bad in moderation, but bacon and sausage yeah...
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:38:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm: eat a ton of eggs.
New study released recently. News flash: it's not the cholesterol in eggs that fucks up your blood cholesterol, but sugar.
ImMadeOfRice ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eggs are great in moderation or not. I know people who eat a dozen eggs a day and are fit as fuck. I also know people who eat bacon and sausage a lot and are fine.
AziMeeshka ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:42:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, they probably actually get off their ass and exercise.
tribblemethis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:23:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my mom used to compete in bodybuilding competitions, some of her male friends would eat scrambled eggs by the dozen every morning.
dal_segno ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:53:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom did the same, breakfast was a shit-ton of hardboiled eggwhites and a protein shake.
Damn house constantly smelled of sulfur.
samamp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:37:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"well i quess ill see you in your funeral"
MagicallyAdept ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I guess I will see you at your funeral.
adamd22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if it's pain from bright lights for 30 mins for a full english breakfast, or neither I know what I'd choose.
Edit: After rereading I realise it was a heart issue, which is probably the point at which you should start quitting cholesterol filled food.
OrinMacGregor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/keto minus the toast
BlahblahYaga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:54 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with him.. in some ascpect. I have neuropathy, and one very Interesting neurologist told me it was because I ate hot sauce. I would never move my arm correctly again until I stopped eating hotsauce. This was not a plan I was alright with. I didn't think it would help, and my religion dictates a viking style funeral in a sea of hot sauce. We did not meet again.
(I may have considered the hot sauce free diet if he didn't also say many of my pain issues came from lacking a husband)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:25 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reading this too late at night. Now I'll probably dream of Viking funerals, hot sauce and dickish doctors lacking husbands.
TrekaTeka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:42:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh..Skip the toast and it would be healthier
guacamoleo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:42:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you're kidding.
TrekaTeka ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:45:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I'm not :) Modern research shows, that low fat diets are more harmful than the modern high carbohydrate diets. Obviously if you are eating high fat and high carbs there will be issues. https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23030771-600-carb-your-enthusiasm-are-bread-pasta-and-spuds-making-you-fat/
Zantre ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:01:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All that sodium he was ingesting scared me the most.
FEMALEforREAL ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 06:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone from Texas who grew up not realizing we get nutrition from food. Like most people around her thought you ate food for whatever reason and then took vitamins for nutrition. The lack of connection between food and what it does to/for the body is stunning.
BlinkyGirl ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:54:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a lot of southern Utahns with the very same mindset. How can... Never mind, I'm not curious enough to know what goes on in their heads.
JoseElEntrenador ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:37 on February 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if you were never told about nutrition would you know?
Given that it took (hundreds of) thousands of years for humans understand to what a balanced diet was, probably not.
sharkbag ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:39:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a lot of the problems in this thread would be solved by good and simple nutrition education rather than a lot of the moralistic attitude thats popping up
aquamarinekat331 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:29 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Health education, sex education, food education, education in general.... Nah, who needs that when we have the Bible! Everything we need to know is in there! Heehee...
magearnas ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:14:26 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't blame people at all for having had inadequate education, but how did they think people lived before vitamin pills were invented?
FEMALEforREAL ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:01:41 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think they did... think about it , I mean.
internetisnotreality ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:41:44 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's basically true for the entire human race up until 200 years ago. Scurvy was rampant, but nobody reached for a lime.
Methee ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 06:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a friend who is diabetic who constantly complains about how he ended up in the ER over the weekend because his blood sugar was higher than his test kit could read.
I constantly have to tell him that, no, it's not because his doctor is prescribing bad medications, it's the crap he's eating (three to four sodas during a game of DnD along with various sugary snacks).
He legit doesn't believe his diet is effecting him because he eats gluten-free (he's gluten intolerant, as well).
It drives me batty to the point where I've stopped talking to him because all he does is complain about his diabetes and health problems.
sourpatch30yo ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 06:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe explain in dnd terms like, dude you have vulnerability to sugar damage and you keep rolling 1s.
river4823 ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 06:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like, the dungeon master tells you that you need to roll a ten, and you're reaching for the six-sided die.
curiousiah ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:34:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a diabetic educator that I wish explained things like this. It's a brilliant way of putting it in the patient's terms. Unfortunately, you're usually not going to see a doctor who knows/shares your hobbies and can adequately explain your situation in your own terms. It would do wonders for medical explanation and treatment if you could.
Modorox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like its time to make an analagy repositorie where doctors explain diseases in terms of their hobbies (be it DnD, basketball, cars, etc.) so other health professionals can explain things in their patient's terms.
curiousiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh a metaphor thesaurus.
RunningUpThtHill ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 06:26:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gluten free food usually actually has a lot of sugar.
Methee ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 06:29:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've told him this. Showed him labels. He just firmly believes that because it's gluten free, it's healthy. Therefore no sugar.
ThoriGilmore ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:03:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair if he has to eat a gluten free diet and a low sugar diet his food choices are extremely limited. I guess an Atkins type diet. Meat and veggies only. But if you health depends on it I guess its worth it.
ooofest ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:16:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a tasty diet.
Source: been on it for years.
BookWyrm17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:03:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, same here. I mean, I've been on it for about five years, but I've been slacking off a bit recently and I got a couple warts all of a sudden. :( Now I gotta cut out sugar or something again. But yeah, meat and veggies and fruits is good! Fruit for breakfast, rice n' chicken for lunch maybe, an amazing stew for dinner, it arguably tastes better than all the sickeningly sweet treats, especially after eating it for a while, your tastebuds become more sensitive to the slightly plainer food. Carrots are sweet! :P
TaffyGoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Green beans and many peppers are practically candy. Perfectly ripe strawberries are some kind of sweet slice of heaven. Also been slacking but am afraid to cook so that's my problem. Fortunately raw veggies are still generally pretty good.
BookWyrm17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes. Once you aren't saturating your mouth with too much, everything else tastes better too.
Afraid to cook? Any particular reason? That's actually one reason why I enjoy this diet so much, I've learned to be better at cooking, making some great stews or potato/rice platters, green beans n sweet peas.
TaffyGoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yes! It's like exploring a new world with flavor.
Got really excited about cooking at some point, but whenever I went to do so my dad would scream at me to get out of the kitchen. If I was smart about it and did it while he was gone or passed out he would harass me later, always claiming I'd made a disaster even though I cleaned it spotless. Left me with a weird complex. I'm elsewhere now and the family is great and leaves me be and I still can't go in there and cook for myself. Microwave is fair game but there's only so much you can do with it.
BookWyrm17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awful, I'm sorry. :( Never been through that sort of thing, so I really don't have any advice or anything either. Cooking is fantastic though, if you can find some way to do it someday, I'm sure you won't regret it. Perhaps start small, with only cooking some beans in a small pan on the stove, or something? I dunno... I'd love to hear about it someday if you do find a way to get cooking again! It's one of my favorite things, and it'd be great to know someone else is able to do this sort of thing for themselves :)
minitntman1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just have to eat asian food, rice is gluten free
Luvagoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:04:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'i guess'. And oh no meat and veg how will humanity survive.
Toezap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a cousin who is a Type I diabetic and has celiac disease (gluten intolerance). There's more than just meat and veggies, but as u/RunningUpThtHill says, gluten-free food often has a lot of sugar. The people who make it often use sugar to accommodate for the missing gluten and make it taste more "right".
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well sugar and gluten are both found from grains which are artificially created.
RunningUpThtHill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whole grains are probably going to be fine. Oatmeal, rice, that kind of thing. Its just stuff like gluten free bread has a lot of added sugar.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:41:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least his dick won't explode off
Tenocticatl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:44:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a commercial in the Netherlands where a minor celebrity prized chupa chups (lollypops) as a 'healthy' snack for kids because they don't contain any fat. She received a lot of flak over that one.
RyanRagido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a diabetic, that's painful to read.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Methee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
USA. Our education system actually does pretty well at teaching various health subjects (my eleven year old knows that diabetes means special diet thanks to his health classes). Sadly, as with every country, people become ignorant to what is right in front of them and refuse to change their shitty habits.
He has an addiction to bad food because that's what makes him happiest (don't get me started on his depression). The more I think about it, the more I figure he knows what he's doing to himself, it's just a matter that he doesn't care.
SinfullySinless ยท 224 points ยท Posted at 01:33:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"....sir, that's exactly what I'm suggesting you do"
aaaaaaaarrrrrgh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"well fuck you then"
(proceeds to eat themselves to death)
Bobcatluv ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 06:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get the "I don't like water" attitude. I used to teach and coach in an inner city high school, and I heard this all of the time. I'd have athletes complaining of headaches and muscle cramps all of the time. Our trainer worked to rehydrate them more than she ever handled injuries.
And no, this wasn't in Flint.
[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 07:51:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All you would have to do is tally up the cost of buying something to drink for a month versus the cost of the filter. There is no possible way the filter cost more than buying two liters of soda/pop, sweet tea, juice etc.
Bobcatluv ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:04:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of my students lived in newer (like 1990s-2000s) project housing, and I actually lived in their neighborhood, renting an older unit. Not to mention, the access they had to free bottles of water on campus. I get the point you're trying to make (especially in the era of Flint), but it is more of a social and cultural thing rather than plumbing issue. Some people were, in fact, raised to see water as just something with which you wash your ass.
Btw, "inner city" doesn't mean flat broke in all cases; whenever my students or their families wanted something badly enough, they got it.
samamp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:38:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i live in a first world country so i never even tought about that :)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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srpetrowa ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:25:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never knew that drinkable water was a privilege in a first world country. This mindset is the reason why such things are normalised.
cuddle-tits ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:08:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
facepalm
spongebue ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 07:08:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me wrong, I totally love having a big bottle full of cold water next to me while I work, but I can kinda sorta see where people like this come from. On the uncommon case where I get a bottle of gatorade, I may fill it up with water afterward and drink that. It always tastes really off, like something is missing. If your palette is used to drinking only super extra sweet drinks all the time no matter what, it's probably unpleasant in a similar way.
SilverFuchs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I now drink at least 2 bottles a day (big 750ml-1L sports bottle I got in Wall Mart) and yeah it sucked for months. Now I can't remember the last time I had a Dr Pepper. And I fucking love Dr Pepper!
But seriously, if people fix most of their diet then they'll get the water they need. You don't need to DRINK 8 pints of water or whatever it is, that's overkill. But your food has a massive amount of water which is where you get a lot of it. Fast food and processed food doesn't which is part of the problem.
Edit: so yeah I get that a lot of water doesn't taste great (inner-city water is pretty damn horrible in places), but it doesn't need to be drank, it can be eaten
RaidRover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:28:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up on juice, fresh lemonade and soda. I drank water but only while playing football or at karate. I really didnt like it. Just 2 years ago I had to FORCE myself to drink nothing but water for an entire week. Since then I have had trouble drinking anything elss. Other drinks are just so sweet I feel ill drinking them. I still like the way they taste better but I really can't make it more than half a glass or so before I just cant drink it.
Bobcatluv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that crazy? I had a sip of my niece's Kool Aid recently and was DIIIIABEEETUS! I can't believe I drank so much of the stuff as a kid.
CrashingScience ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:00:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You dont have to drink pure water. Isnt it obvious that squash and other drinks still hydrate?
Depressed-Londoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Squash isn't really a common drink in the US
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i literally cannot DRINK water. I can occasionally slowly sip water, but actually drinking it, or even sipping too much in too short of time, gives me bad nausea and sometimes actual pain in my stomach. and by too much in too short of time, im talking a few ounces over 5-10 mins.
i CAN handle some unsweetened iced teas, but not others (and its not a preference thing... there are some i hate i can drink like others drink water, and some i love that i cant drink any more then i can regular water.... and some somewhere in between)
most juices i can drink, that im willing to drink anyway (who knows about the ones i cant stand lol), coffee, milk (to an extent...i have a minor lactose problem, so i can only drink so much, but i can handle a single large glass and down it if i havent had too much other dairy), soda, probably some hot teas on a similar level as iced, except i dont drink hot tea anyway, i sip it slowly on the rare occasions i drink it, hot cocoa, etc.
But no water. even when thats ALL i want to drink. even if its my favorite brand of bottled water and we splurged to buy it... a single bottle will last me a few days most likely.
the only exception is if im actively exercising. then i can drink water, up to a point (about a single 20-soemthing oz bottle if my heartrate and breathing and sweat levels are up) before i have to switch to a sports drink like gatorade (which i hate. All of em. But better to drink them then get sick from drinking water or let myself dehydrate and get sick from that)
anyway, point is, sometimes that "I dont like water" is actually "i can't drink water but dont feel like trying to explain that"
Arcanum-Arcanorum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is kind of interesting to me because I've never heard someone say that drinking (pure/clean) water makes them sick. Have you ever talked to a doctor about it? The only time I've ever experienced being nauseous from drinking water is if I'm having a (rare) bout of water retention, and/or if I eat way too much salt.
ramsay_baggins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In one of my old student digs the water made me feel ill, turns out my stomach was sensitive to something that was leaching into the water from the pipes. No problems in my much newer built home.
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think it was caused by the time i got a mild case of water OD. between a regularly (but not intentional) low sodium diet at the time due to cutting out soda (i generally dont eat extra salt on anything but fries, hard boiled eggs, and watermelon. None of which i was eating much of. most of my sodium was coming from my soda at that time) and an issue with my mouth (meaning i wasnt eating what sodium i did get thru food AND was using water to try to make it feel better), i was going thru ridiculous amounts of water quickly, throwing my body out of wack My body didnt like that, and now refuses to be put back in that position.
i have met other people online with similar issues, but i cant be positive if they were pregnant or not at the time and if it was a permanent or short term thing. (pregnancy throws everything about the body out of wack sometimes, but much of the time the changes go away after a while)
also, i find it interesting that you get sick from water when you have too MUCH salt. Usually, from what i know, it would be the other way around (too little sodium and other electrolytes + excess water = water OD (aka water poisoning/water intoxication) its so weird how in so many cases with our bodies, too much and too little of something can often cause similar symptoms
mttdesignz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am the furthest thing from a doctor, but I really think you should ask one about that.
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
probably, but that costs money. As i said above, just buying a decent bottle of water is a splurge sometimes.
but i think it was caused by the time i got a mild case of water OD. between a regularly (but not intentional) low sodium diet at the time due to cutting out soda (i generally dont eat extra salt on anything but fries, hard boiled eggs, and watermelon. None of which i was eating much of. most of my sodium was coming from my soda at that time) and an issue with my mouth (meaning i wasnt eating what sodium i did get thru food AND was using water to try to make it feel better), i was going thru ridiculous amounts of water quickly, throwing my body out of wack My body didnt like that, and now refuses to be put back in that position.
tdub2112 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 06:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A guy at my church was diabetic for many years and ever since I knew him, had weighed at least 350 lbs. Had some toes cut off, then his leg from the knee down. Still kept up the same diet. I'm amazed he died last year. He should have been dead a decade ago.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:41:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well the bright side is he probably wasn't 350lbs anymore.
tdub2112 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably lost a few pounds post amputation as one would expect having a limb cut off, but he just kept getting fatter and fatter.
EredarLordJaraxxus ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:52:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Children who weren't taught how to eat healthy as kids :/ I mean, I brew and drink sweet iced tea, but I make it myself with only half a cup of sugar per gallon.
GraphicDesignMonkey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:34:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK person here - is Iced /sweet tea just regular black tea served cold with loads of sugar in it?
We just have our tea hot with a splash of milk, sweet /iced tea isn't a thing here so I'm not sure what makes it different.
alittlegnome ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How to make sweet tea:
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:40:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Brit, I feel a bit queasy
AziMeeshka ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink iced tea with no sugar. I love hot tea and coffee too, but the tea you use for iced tea is different than what you usually use to make hot tea, it has a much milder taste usually so the resulting drink when ice is added is very diluted and refreshing. There's a reason it's drank a lot in the hot as balls south. When it's warm outside I drink like a gallon a day of the stuff, but i'm a caffeine addict so it's a good way to get caffeine all day without drinking a bunch of soda or hot drinks that make me feel even more warm.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it like this stuff?
You can sometimes get that over here, but it's always fruit flavoured like peach
Maxxonry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:04:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. It's only tea flavored, unless you add lemon to it, and it has even more sugar.
AziMeeshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but not sweet or anything, and a lot of people make their own. I hate sweet tea or the fruit flavored ones, but I don't like sugar in my coffee or anything either so maybe I'm just weird. Even unsweetened iced tea tastes way different from most hot tea you will drink, it's hard to describe the flavor really. Mcdonald's actually makes really good unsweetened iced tea, sometimes I stop there to get one just because it's a big plastic cup for only a dollar, sometimes they fuck up and give me sweet tea though, shit's so sweet I can't even drink the stuff.
EredarLordJaraxxus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, thats just flavored water, not actual tea
akaFeefee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an American, so do I. I drink tea hot with just a teaspoon of honey.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweetened tea is just regular tea with sugar. Sweet tea is black tea sweetened with sugar until it won't hold any more sugar. It has to be sweetened hot and then cooled, because the cold tea doesn't hold enough sugar. It's delicious, but so so awful for you.
foreoki12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:10:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I spent a few years of my youth working at a country club and came to prefer the Arnold Palmer, which is unsweetened iced tea combined with lemonade.
EredarLordJaraxxus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its more of a brown when its finished. And by loads, we usually add half a cup to a 2 gallon pitcher
justasapling ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 08:41:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Californian who mostly drinks expensive, loose leaf Chinese teas (and the occasional PG Tips with milk) Yes, I believe that's what it is.
Monztur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:19:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is still an absolute ton of sugar. Not healthy at all
EredarLordJaraxxus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually i think we make it in 2 gallon batches, and add a half cup of sugar to that. I'm a little fuzzy on the details.
NoNotThatHole ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:53:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that in a southern accent
iknowdanjones ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:36:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was certainly supposed to be read in a southern accent.
corndogsareeasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then I'm going to be substituting every time you say "diabetes" with "the sugar" to make it even more accurate in my mind.
Vaadwaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:47:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tennesseeans are more hill people to my mind.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Vaadwaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:52:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a North Carolinian with family in Knoxville. I know well your ways, hillist, and shan't have your kind besmirching my genteel accent with your rocky rumblings and valley drawls!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Vaadwaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed! Now return to growing corn, brewing moonshine and violating bears!
NoNeedForAName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
West TN represent!
LilytheElf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:31:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That mindset is exhausting.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What do you mean, I can't hit my patients in order to drive home a point?!"
Tenocticatl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:42:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Basically, it's like you have a bucket. You've poked a few holes in the bucket, so the problem is that it's not staying full of water. You're asking me to turn the tap open more to keep the bucket full, but the tap can only open so far and you're refusing to stop poking more holes in the bucket."
TheAllDayThrowAway_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Based on the first line and the 4th line, I expected the rest of the conversation to go like this:
pt: Do you have any better meds to prescribe?
dr: how about drinking more water and cutting sugar?
pt: What about prescribing oxycontin, instead?
Touchmycooker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im a nutrition assistant at a hospital, which basically means i just have to make sure people order healthy items (like a waiter that is allowed to tell you that you cant have something) and this is the worst part. People complain with "well thats how i eat at home" "well that might be why you're in the hospital"
starwestsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse practicing in rural Tennessee. Sadly can confirm.
justnodalong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ugh reading his diet made my pancreas curl. I like sugar too but that is TOO MUCHHHH
nytheatreaddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a former coworker diagnosed as diabetic. Doctors told her to exercise and change her diet. She didn't want to do it so she ate enough crap to go into a fucking coma and voila! The doctors gave her a pump. She'd constantly be eating skittles and slushies when I worked with her.
migueltrabajador ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a conversation with a guy a while back they you just reminded me of.
I saw this guy I knew (sort of, we met briefly doing karaoke) at the grocery store. He asked me for a ride home. He lived near me so I agreed. I notice he has three grocery bags full of individual cans of different flavors of mountain dew.
He said to me, and I swear this is word for word, "I had to come down here to get more mountain dew. I'm out, and I just can't drink that water stuff."
He fucking called it, "That water stuff," like it was some stupid trendy drink the damn kids were all doing.
That should not be your feeling towards water. If you feel this way towards water, you need to get control of your life. Water should seem like a refreshing breath of air, especially if you've gone a while without a drink, or you've sweated a lot.
__youcancallmeal__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"SIR, I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT A SALAD PERSON, YOU'RE REFUSING TO HELP ME SO I'M GOING TO HANG UP".
sonicpet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone from Europe, no wonder that there's a stereotype image with fat Americans if some people have diets like that O_o
taytermuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds way too close to what my mother would say
Mousixxxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh. America. Sigh.
losian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar and carbs are a trap. Have fruit juice! Nope, sugar. Actual fruit? A lot of it is just carbs and sugar, garbage. Healthy frozen dinners? Carbs and sugar, with shit portions that guarantee you're starving and snacking.
What is relatively easily available to busy or even just mildly lazy people makes obvious the root cause of many diet related health issues.. And frankly should all fast, quick, and frozen food be so majorally shit? Even salads are garbage for nutrition, especially once you throw on the dressing.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Either you can eat salads or we can start cutting bits off of you. Take your pick."
MiffedCanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This post in particular miffs the fuck out of me.
Jake0157 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most Rural TN thing i've ever read. (Source) Live in Bumfuck Tennessee.
iknowdanjones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I hear Bumfuck is nice this time of year.
Jake0157 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, Nice bit of snow and nobody moves, entire area is shutdown send help.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I do collaborate with my HR department on our wellness program and this kind of exchange sounds somewhat familiar... It's kind of sad and I don't even live in a rural area.
andrewsank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These type of ignorant people piss me off so much
putzarino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, that sounds like enough water, just waaaaaaay too much sugar with it.
Tinferbrains ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read "sugar and carbs" as "sugar and crabs". I need caffeine.
pottermuchly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how someone can not like water. It's so refreshing.
iknowdanjones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:38 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. But then again, I grew up in a house that only ever had milk or water as an option to drink.
kongnamul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:19 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are doctors not allowed to straight up tell a patient that "sugar is killing you." Verbatim? Genuinely curious.
c_girl_108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:35 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriends (now deceased) uncle had diabetes, ate whatever greasy, fatty, sugary and carby foods he wanted. Lost his leg. Had a horrible infection on the other leg and was in the process of losing it. Home nurse takes his sugar and it's almost 400. (Like 4x the normal amount) and asks if his dr was aware and he assured her he was (I highly doubt that).
jules083 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:24 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy at work becomes a diabetic at 30 years old. 425 pounds, drinks a 24 pack of Mountain Dew every 2 days. Has to quit drinking pop because of the sugar content. Still didn't cut out the sugar, he switched to bottled sweet tea and generic gatorade. I had to sit and explain to him how to real the labels on food and drinks, and where to find out how much sugar was in something. He had no idea.
OneHeartBeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Such scenarios are the reason I decided to not become a dietitian, and instead tack on 8+ more years of education and go to medical school.
[deleted] ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 03:49:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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slytherinwitchbitch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:39:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is FPH?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:55:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/fatpeoplehate , a now banned subreddit
inucune ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:04:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a thread that originally was an ok-at-best idea and quickly went downhill.
Shamus_Aran ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ding ding ding.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was all fine and dandy until they started brigading other subs (kind of like t_d now)
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:59:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except now the morlocks that lived there are on the rest of Reddit
AgoraRefuge ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:22:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Now my downlow hate just festers, and I have no idea what Tess Munster is up to.
Isogen_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can check them on Voat.
kawaiipotahto ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's Tess Holliday. She's married now, get with the times.
lunchesandbentos ยท 5515 points ยท Posted at 19:55:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but my mom doesn't have a good grasp on the reproductive system so I had to be the one to explain that:
China/Taiwan's sex ed was severely.... lacking. So my mom, until she was in her 20s believed that if you sat on a seat still warm on the bus that a guy sat in before you, you can get pregnant. If you kissed a guy, you could get pregnant.
I'm still finding out, years later, misconceptions that my poor mother has about reproduction and explaining things to her.
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MemesAreBad ยท 218 points ยท Posted at 21:40:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair it isn't really a condition but a figure of speech. I don't even know if there's equivalent terms in other languages.
[deleted] ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 21:44:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Damnify ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 01:45:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... haha... those poor people that will never have sex even once... must suck to be them...............................
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c00kies44 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:56:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is partly true. In grade 7 I was heavily bullied and rumours ruined my reputation. All I thought to keep me sane was that life gets better, and if I make it to summer break I'll be okay. I made it to summer, and the years after weren't as bad.
However, my life is still pretty bad. I'm 11 years older and am pretty sure I will never feel euphoria or day to day happiness.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ZebraHunterz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:32:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone prone to negative thinking. I always try to remeber Churchill "When going through hell. Keep going."
KinseyH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When all else fails, live for spite.
simcowking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grade seven...everyone forgets you once you leave school.
c00kies44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are some people I know that would still bring it up, as they literally brought it up Everytime they saw me, up til graduation. Most people let it go after grade 7, but the rumour resurfaced in highschool, which I was mad about because it was supposed to be a fresh start with new people, but they learned the rumour too.
I've been out of school for many years now, and I don't really fret about because I don't associate with the assholes, but I do still get nightmares about it.
AryaStarkBaratheon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:45 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry. If it makes you feel any better, I'm 30 and have never have a physical relationship with a guy. Part of me is absolutely mortified about it, and the other half is very stubborn. I have plenty of friends that would be happy to be FWB, but I decided a long time ago that when it happened, it had to be with someone that mattered to me. Now its like, omg I'm this old and I don't know how to kiss someone, no one is ever going to like me. Anxiety is so fucking stupid.
The problem is that I was bullied so harshly from like age 3-college, I have such low self esteem. Even though I have friends who tell me I'm gorgeous. I just look in the mirror and think wtf is wrong with you? Plus my social skills are pretty bad. I've dealt with so much in my life I tend to just sort of throw it out there, and end up scaring people. To me its something I deal with each day, and its a part of me. I'm not trying to dump a ton of info on anyone, but I feel they also have the right to know certain things. Guess its just figuring out the moderation. That and the last guy I tried to go on a date with stood me up completely.
I've never been good socially, a lot of reasons, verbal abuse, stuff like that. Last year I had to go into outpatient for depression, etc. Just, the past 5 years have been hell. Its not looking great for the future either, but I'm moving at least.
I may not know your exact pain, but I know how much it sucks, and how much in this world you can feel ashamed for stupid reasons. Honestly I'm terrified I'm never going to find the right person I want to. It's all so stupidly complicated.
If you're still having issues, you probably have a form of PTSD. It's actually very, very common and most don't know that. See if you can find a therapist who does EMDR. You have to relive the memory a whole bunch. But if it helps you, it will make it much, much better.
Good luck to you, feel free to inbox me if you want!
c00kies44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:38 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry to hear that :(
I understand (a little bit anyway) where you are coming from. I was offered sex once in highschool, but it was only because the other person was really desperate to have sex (I barely knew her, last time I talked to her was 5 years before). I declined because it didn't feel right.
Now I am almost 24 and haven't had a relationship of any kind. Oddly enough, grade 7 was the closest I came to having a relationship (we both really liked each other, she stole my agenda to get my phone number and whatnot), but when the rumour started it ended the relationship.
I'm alright socially, but relationship wise I suffer.
AryaStarkBaratheon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:48 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You may want to look into attachment disorders. I've done my own research on them and there are several types, but a lot of my quirks match exactly to one of the disorders. I don't have anything legit via a doctor, but my therapist found it very interesting. It may help find a bit of clarity where others have not.
c00kies44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yeah, them...
othybear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, they just like to think their parents are virgins so they don't have to think about them ever having sex. I'm sure they have a healthy sex life. At least, I hope for their sake.
Big_TX ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:25:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well It's a very bad Physiological pain. Idk if that counts as a condition but it's a physical thing. When I googled the phrase to learn what I meant when I was a kid some claimed it gave their balls a blue tent as well. But I don't buy that part.
onedoor ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:00:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Blue" could be an analogy for bruises with how the testicles hurt when even slight pressure is applied. Like black and blue eyes after getting punched.
Big_TX ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:06:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that would make sense!
hex4d617474 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 00:15:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it is definitely real. On first date with a girl, got this weird aching from testicles. Got home, they were swollen and did have a bit of discoloration. It was very subtle, not like a bruise or anything. But it definitely did give physical pain.
Stacherash ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:56:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol happened to me once, had just heard stories of a kids testicles getting twisted and needing surgery, so that was my first thought, started twisting my nuts inside my balls to fix it, forgot where I started and how many twists I had done and panicked a bit, ended up working itself out tho and other than an hr or so of discomfort and some stress it was nothing other than blue balls
Big_TX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there you go. It's such a weird phenomenon
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Big_TX ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:09:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going weeks is unusually. For me, And what seams to be how it generally works for my research on forums, it's caused by not having cum for a whole ( like a day or two). Then getting very arowsed one or a few times. But I think it vetoes from person to person.
dragoongirl1990 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:29:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Women get a version of this and it's extremely painful.
shinypurplerocks ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:54:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blue clit. Sitting hurts.
dragoongirl1990 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:15:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right???
donteatmenooo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:20:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I.... never realized what that was. And didn't think to look it up (I tend to have random pains all over, so what's one more?). And here I thought I'd make it through this thread all smug. :(
dragoongirl1990 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:17:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do too. Have you ever considered that you might have fibromyalgia? It's one of my conditions that I was recently FINALLY diagnosed with after wondering what the fuck is wrong with me for 15 years.
fuckitx ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not..it's just annoying because you're still horny. Blue walls
dragoongirl1990 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:11:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me but you're not me, are you? It ducking hurts when I get horny enough and can't get any. Talk about yourself next time.
Santa1936 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:07:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
catfight
fuckitx ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard in my entire life of a woman being in pain because she didn't come. But if that's what happens to you then sure. I believe you due to your conviction on the matter.
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had pain trying to walk from it before.
Santa1936 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, there is definitely physical pain. After a weekend of feeling my gf's tits in hs with no time to jerk off, I sat at home in the worst pain imaginable
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:18:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, my friend, it is a real condition, and quite a painful one. I have had the misfortune to experience it a few times.
Forest-G-Nome ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:22:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a condition any more than sore muscles after a workout are a condition.
It's unfortunately, it's what we call 'working as intended'
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:38:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wording. This condition (as in "state") is not a sickness.
TheScottymo ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:49:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a very real condition, I can tell you that. Last night, I had it because I'm staying at some family's house in a separate room from my fiancรฉe, and we went out and got some handcuffs for when we get back to our place.
My swollen nuts felt like I had something between a UTI and an uppercut to the nads. It was so painful and uncomfortable, I had to have a shower and take matters into my own hands.
MemesAreBad ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:55:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sincerely sorry you were that uncomfortable. If you haven't already you should really get an appointment with a doctor, ideally with a specialist. That doesn't sound like something that should be written off as "blue balls."
TheScottymo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I fapped in the shower and it went away after a while, so meh
Blacksm1th ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:10:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realize you're in a thread full of stories of dumbasses who ignore medical advice and common sense right?
TheScottymo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:13:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. It was 18 hours ago and I was fine 15 hours ago now.
MemesAreBad ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:12:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still that's not normal. I'm not a doctor but if I my dick or balls start hurting with any regularity there's no way I'm going to ignore it.
TheScottymo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:14:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a regular occurance. It's fine.
bannana_surgery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could just mention it to the doctor the next time you go, maybe. Although I probably wouldn't mention stuff either if it turns out to be a one time deal.
TheScottymo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:11:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it happens on a regular basis, I will see a doctor.
Otherwise, I'm pretty sure hanging out in an adult shop and reading a porn mag on the way home and then not having a release was just a bad idea.
demostravius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:54:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I don't get the point in stripclubs.
Plague_of_crocus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeeahhh it sounds fine to me as an expert anonymous Internet person. Only had it once myself, really didn't understand till that day.
InbredDucks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:49:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a man? Because if you are, you should damn well know blue balls is NOT a figure of speexh, but a very real thing
MrsObsolete ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a woman, but can confirm it's a thing.
My husband has been on Basic Training for the Army since November. He was able to come back for the holidays. The first day he came back and we had sex, I can swear not just his balls, his dick too, was almost a faint bluish purple. He mentioned it hurt too. We laughed about it for the whole time he was here before he had to go back. Poor boy.
Nick700 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:56:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a figure of speech sometimes but mostly it refers to the real condition. The balls don't actually turn blue obviously, but it's real
mechapoitier ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope people are joking in here about blue balls being real. I'm a guy and have had balls for an extremely long time. The only time they ever hurt was when I got nailed in the balls by a baseball.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mechapoitier ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:19:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that was unnecessarily condescending.
Thanks for the tip that other people might be different than me though. That's some top notch intel.
Machattack96 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:39:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I've read that sometimes the balls do get a blue tinge, hence the name.
GrumpyBert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, sex ed, and The Fucking Internet! I learned what blue balls were on the internet (I am not a native English speaker, so we say it in a very different way in my language...).
mmmolives ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blue balls? Ooo I know this! It's the horribly painful thing assholes claim you are cursing them with if you refuse to fuck them or give them a BJ! I got no sympathy, ain't nothing stopping you from heading to the bathroom for some personal maintenance. Please feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong.
smugliberaltears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shit, it isn't lacking where I am, it just doesn't exist at all. god bless america.
TheHatOnTheCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had sex ed in 5th, 6th, and 8th grade plus some minor coverage from Health in 10th grade. Blue balls were not part of the curriculum. I learned the phrase online.
(And it was the you can ask anything sex ed. In 8th grade we got questions about the taste of cum ect answered.)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does that have to do with sex ed?
It's slang with no biological scientific purpose.
crazymcninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Knew a girl who came from an area like that, but it was worse because everyone in her small town were rich. Drug education was non-existent as well. She was addicted to coke at 12 and had a kid at 14. She's almost 30 now, still takes care of the kid, isn't addicted to coke anymore, but last I heard she cheated on another friend of mine for 3 years. They had been dating for 3 years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So uh...did you tell her? I want to hear that story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever heard the term on reddit, and I'm still not exactly sure what it is.
quiet_kinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt doesn't know what "cockblocking" is. I told her she didn't need to know. I wish "I'll tell you when you're older" had come to mind instead.
DeathorGlory9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What sex ed classes talks about blue balls?
KassellTheArgonian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you should have flipped a table while screaming "ITS WHAT YOU FUCKING GIVE ME EVERYDAY YOU FUCKING COCKTEASE"
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wish more women knew about this... gf always sleeps over during her period but doesn't want to partake in anything, and I can't just do it myself when she is there. After a few days it physically hurts to walk.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that's really not part of sex ed.
Sapphire--Blue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to work as a labor and delivery nurse and doesn't know what blue balls is. I don't really think that's something you learn in sex ed anywhere.
Doonvoat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair even a lot of 'in the know' people aren't aware of/don't believe in blue balls
Princess_Glitterbutt ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 21:33:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I spent part of Christmas trying to explain to my mother-in-law and cousin that the female urethra is near the vagina and surrounded by labia too.
They concluded that I have weird lady-bits. I'm still trying to figure out where they think their pee comes from...
Tar_alcaran ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:19:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you'd be surprised how many people think women only have 2 openings, and how many of those people are women themselves. r/badwomensanatomy is a thing.
Summerie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:09:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your family has odd holiday traditions, but who am I to judge.
PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:43:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
most people seem to think women pee out of their vaginas, i can't tell you how many people I've heard say that.
terrrrrible ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The butt, obviously. All girls pee from their butt.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:50 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um...no. Our butts are just for aesthetic reasons. Everyone knows girls don't have holes there-hence the reason why we don't fart or poop.
TheGabby ยท 318 points ยท Posted at 21:17:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my mother that Plan B is not an abortion pill.
If it was an abortion pill it wouldn't be $50 and available at Wal-Mart
beertastesnice ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 22:17:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The morning-after pill is 50 bucks?!
you_are_who ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 22:37:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No OP but it is $50 at CVS for the Plan B branded version. CVS version is $40. Expensive but I suppose cheaper than having s child.
Stepherzzzzzz ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:01:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, everything at CVS is overpriced compared to other stores/pharmacies.
MarsupialRage ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:10:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but plan b costs the same across the board
Stepherzzzzzz ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:12:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some Plan B generics are less expensive, but yes you are correct.
[deleted] ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 23:17:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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neccoguy21 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:23:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't. Generics are just as good cause it's the exact same formula. I haven't bought a name brand medication... Like ever.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:33:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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absentmindedjwc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Been there, done that, went generic.
Diablooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realize it's the exact same drug in the exact same quantity? Literally the only difference is the name. Generic doesn't mean they half-assed it or anything
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Diablooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're paying $20 because you prefer the name? I don't follow
jes0308 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So we're ignoring the fact that pharmacies aren't open at 1 am?
gamblingman2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one by me is 24/7/365. The benefits of living by one of the only compound pharmacies in houston.
neccoguy21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That just means advertising works on you. No matter what state of panicked mind I'd be in, I'd still be going "where's the generic?"
Lost_anal_bead ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:13:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. They have the same quantity of the same active ingredient. Only thing different is what fillers (inactive) ingredients are used. They're required to be 97-103% as effective iirc by the FDA.
derglingrush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I seem to recall from grad school that it was more like 10% on either side than 3%.
Lost_anal_bead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like we're both right, you more so than I. FDA requires the generic to be within 10% (above or below) the blood concentration levels of the brand name, but the vast majority are within 3% (+ or -) as they are made by the same manufacturer but using a different filler.
derglingrush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, sounds about right. Most definitely don't get close to the edge of that tolerance.
meanderling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can birth control be 103% effective? Do you have to absorb a baby??
NachoCupcake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
103% refers to the comparison with the name brand, not overall efficacy.
snickers_snickers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if you don't understand what a generic is and feel like wasting your money on something that any pharmacist will tell you is the exact same goddamn medication down to the very dose.
Stepherzzzzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point lol
thegeneraldisarray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a medical card from our state when I was still having a period, for just birth control and such through PP. They sent me my pills and a couple of the morning-after pills and condoms. For free.
Menopause is great once you get past the daily hot flashes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, you can get it for cheaper at planned parenthood though.
Easilycrazyhat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what you're saying is not to buy children at CVS. Got it.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:52:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm that's much cheaper than having a child.
Source: am parent
We_found_peaches ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best part is the off brand version is named "Step 2"
BlueBokChoy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1 : unprotected sex.
Step 2 : step 2
Step 3 : ???
Step 4 : Profit
zombisponge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit ... it's available for 12$ here.
Gonzobot ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:30:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America
aubreythez ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:40:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free at Planned Parenthood tho (at least where I live)
PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it does. My stupid SO shot his baby gravy in me and we panicked, ran to target and got the pill. Looking back we should've just stolen it.
Thearcherygirl ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:00:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny enough, the actual abortion pill (or at least half of the regimen) only costs $30 for a bottle of 100 tablets. And you only need 3 tablets for the abortion. But yeah, that shit's not over the counter, for sure.
TheGabby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my state it's $800
snickers_snickers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you buy them from China or Mexico.
Thearcherygirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I'm surprised. Misoprostel is a generic and used for ulcers as well. Mifepristone may be expensive, but misoprostel shouldn't be.
snickers_snickers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should be using more than three of the 200 mg tablets for a medical abortion. You definitely don't need mifepristone but I'm surprised at using on 600 mg!
Thearcherygirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:56:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how far along the abortion takes place and also what type of abortion, but yes, 600 to 800mg is the correct dosing.
snickers_snickers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, we're discussing medical abortions so I would assume that's the type.
10ebbor10 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 22:02:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on your definitions, I suppose.
It can prevent the implementation of the fertilized egg, which to some entities (for example the church) would be seen as sabortion
iknowsheisntyou ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 22:54:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the place in the food court that sells shitty lasagna?
TrivialBudgie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:57:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I understand?
shel5210 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:00:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe he's making fun of sabarro. A shitty food court pizza/Italian place in America
Leprechorn ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:41:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sbarro*
and no, I don't fucking know how to pronounce it
stef2death ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:00:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well be called Sbortion
neccoguy21 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:19:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the Bahamas. My girlfriend and I ate there 95% of the time we were there cause we didn't have a guide to tell us where we should and shouldn't eat.
Edit: Food isn't that important to me. I don't live to eat, I eat to live. I hear stories all the time about people spending their vacation in the bathroom because they wanted to indulge in the local cuisine right away. No thanks. I'm there to see shit, not take shits. Sorry if this offends anyone idea of a good vacation, but I thought mine was wonderful.
yanroy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:37:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So just go try someplace?
rutherfraud1876 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:26:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh huh, i have one here:
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My turn to shake my head so hard it hurts. Unreal mentality
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a little known travel secret: when you don't know where you should eat you find a place that makes and serves food... and you go there.
iknowsheisntyou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's it.
Summerie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually a more appropriate name than its actual one.
iknowsheisntyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'll flush you out, that's for sure. Maybe from the wrong general area, but still.
dfn85 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:21:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By that logic, shouldn't masturbation be abortion?
agentpatsy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:19:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's frowned on as well, but a sperm cell doesn't contain a full set of chromosomes unlike a fertilized egg.
dfn85 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:24:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if Plan B is taken within the recommended window, it just causes the shedding of the egg before fertilization even occurs.
lunchesandbentos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? It stops the shedding of the egg for a few days so that hopefully all the sperm dies while waiting for it.
If you already popped out an egg, it pretty much doesn't do much to prevent pregnancy. The whole "prevent implantation" is actually a myth that needs to be removed from emergency contraceptive ads.
https://www.verywell.com/how-plan-b-works-906842
dfn85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I live in one of the most progressive states in terms of sex education, and I was always taught that it makes it shed everything.
lunchesandbentos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oops, thought you were talking about another topic.
Yeah, it's a common misconception. There is actually some evidence that suggest that it can even help maintain a pregnancy in someone who is lacking natural progesterone (progestin is used as one of the ingredients for Plan B). Makes sense as one of the only reasons why the body will not shed an egg is if it thinks its pregnant already--and Plan B gives a huge shot of it. Normal regular birth control pills has a smaller dose.
"Progesterone converts the endometrium to its secretory stage to prepare the uterus for implantation. At the same time progesterone affects the vaginal epithelium and cervical mucus, making it thick and impenetrable to sperm. Progesterone is anti-mitogenic in endometrial epithelial cells, and as such, mitigates the tropic effects of estrogen.[43] If pregnancy does not occur, progesterone levels will decrease, leading, in the human, to menstruation. Normal menstrual bleeding is progesterone-withdrawal bleeding. If ovulation does not occur and the corpus luteum does not develop, levels of progesterone may be low, leading to anovulatory dysfunctional uterine bleeding.
During implantation and gestation, progesterone appears to decrease the maternal immune response to allow for the acceptance of the pregnancy."
Had my first child even though I took Plan B within the window. But I ovulated before I took it so it had no effect on the pregnancy. Me and the hubby wanted kids but it was a bit soon--like 5 months into our marriage. Oh well, all's well that ends well.
Hope this clears up a lot of stuff about Plan B.
Moal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So condoms, spermicide, and all other forms of birth control are abortion too?
10ebbor10 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
All those occur before fertilization.
lunchesandbentos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.verywell.com/how-plan-b-works-906842
Plan B is shown to NOT have any effect on Implantation.
lunchesandbentos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:35:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.verywell.com/how-plan-b-works-906842
It has been proven to have no effect on implantation. If it did... well, I wouldn't have had our first...
thisisathrowaway8000 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:09:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what? wow. TIL Plan B is not the same at RU-486.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FirstwetakeDC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:43:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prescription for emergency contraception? Time is crucial!
Sam_RP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf why does a hospital have a religion??
neccoguy21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever heard of a little hospital called Saint Mercy? Or Saint Mary's? Saint Jude? There's about a million of them and a whole bunch of other Saint hospitals. And that's just the Saints.
It's cause churches got mooooney... And if the church made you well, then maybe you'll repay the favor and go to church. Mafias and gangsters use this technique too, but it's just a coincidence. It's a good strategy.
GiveMeASmosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plan B is $50 where you are?? It's about $15 here...
rungiraffe9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What! I paid $70
GiveMeASmosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's absolutely insane! Do you live in the states?
rungiraffe9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, in Florida. This was a few years ago so maybe something has changed
citizenkane86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something something stop obama.
tamadekami ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I hear the D-Con brand abortion pills work wonders and they're pretty cheap. Rat-X, too.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but there was a blogger who wrote about being turned down for Plan B and/or an inability to get an abortion, so she asked for guidance on an herbal abortion. This attracted a lot of attention, including some recipes that would kill her.
Torger083 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. He's a mediocre musician.
dotlurk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it is an abortion pill. It dislodges the fertilized egg which already contains new life with a ready new DNA. It may not feel like an abortion but technically it is one.
I have no idea why it's available over the counter in the US.
TheGabby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it doesn't. It prevents your body from ovulating and causes your vagina to create mucus to make it harder for sperm to reach the egg. If you're already ovulating there's a chance it won't work.
TheGabby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://planb.ca/how-it-works.html
dotlurk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good to know that 2 out of 3 options aren't abortions but the third one clearly is:
As I've said, that's a new life that's going down the drain
chrispmorgan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:20:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny, I think of it that way but I suppose that's a result of framing by the Pro-Choice lobby.
[deleted] ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 21:17:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lunchesandbentos ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 22:33:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Huh. Interesting. Okay well hormones control the thickening and thinning of the lining in the uterus, which, once shed, is what periods are. The fallopian tubes are not part of that mechanism and is only what delivers the sperm to the egg (or egg to the sperm depending on how you look at it) and then the fertilized cells to the uterus.
This is why, even though I got my tubes removed (elective), if I wanted another kid (like I'd have to REALLY want it because at this point I'm done with two and would rather dig my eyes out with a spork) I could do IVF and still have kids.
Hope this clears it up!
bratzman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:35:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that makes sense. I don't know why, but I guess I assumed you needed to have an actual egg involved.
lunchesandbentos ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:47:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I can use my own eggs. They don't need my tubes to retrieve them. Basically they take a really long needle and stick them into my ovaries and extract mature eggs to mature outside.
Think of someone taking a needle and going directly into the testicles to retrieve sperm, rather than getting it the old fashioned way.
door_of_doom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, that bit was news to me. I didn't realize you could take out the tubes but leave the ovaries in. When you started the post saying you could use your own I figured that you had your eggs frozen or something like that.
throwaway903444 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:08:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For what it's worth, I'm a first year medical student and even I didn't know that. You always hear about tubal ligation, in which the fallopian tubes are either tied or cut to prevent an egg from reaching the uterus, which is the procedure everyone knows as "getting your tubes tied". I'm not sure why she had her entire fallopian tube removed rather than simply ligated, and I didn't have any idea that was even done. When I first read her comment saying that she had her fallopian tubes removed, I figured it was from a salpingo-oophorectomy which removes the ovaries and fallopian tubes and is typically done before ovarian cancer has a chance to develop in patients who are at high risk for it. Just FYI, if she had her ovaries removed that would stop her monthly period as you expected, which is why I also expected she wouldn't have regular periods anymore.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had my tubes removed as well (bilateral salpingecteomy). No chance of ligation failure this way. It's not any more risky or painful than ligation.
In my case too, I had Essure implants in my tubes that still caused me pain years later. (Those are a small coil of wire that blocks up your tubes, a ligation alternative). So I wanted those things out. Though I would have opted for removal either way. It did in fact fix the problems :)
Also, recent research shows many ovarian cancers may begin in the fallopian tubes, so this method may also help reduce risk.
Hope that helps!
lunchesandbentos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep! My doctor just asked me right before my c-section if I'd rather just get them removed since it reduces the chances of ovarian cancer by 20%. He was like, although the chance of ovarian cancer is already low anyway, you still have this option.
Ligation fail was what I was scared of. I know two people who had that happen to them. Must have been one helluva sperm and egg.
kmturg ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:34:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once knew a sexually active 15 year old heterosexual male that thought girls had one hole. Pee, Poop and period all came out of the same place. He had taken health and sex ed classes and still didn't get it! I was the lucky one that got to explain it!
pjplatypus ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:42:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a bird?
kmturg ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:43:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess? I doubt he was any more educated in bird anatomy than female.
stacktion ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:24:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I happen to be an expert in bird law in case you need it.
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found Harvey Birdman.
Easilycrazyhat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TL;DR - Birds are gross.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:14:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kmturg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say assuming he is visually inspecting anything would be a mistake. He doesn't have to visually inspect a vagina to have sex. Coming from a small town, I know some of the chicks he had slept with and they were most definitely cis-gender females.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:03:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Lyrle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:29:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know my early partners would generally jab their rod in the general area and then I would have pity on them and grab it to guide it in. Sadly there were no visual inspections whatsoever.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:09 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I know some of the 'chicks' he had slept with..."
That says it all...
macphile ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:21:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had he not heard of anal sex (with girls)? Did he think that women were at risk of shitting out their babies every time they went to the bathroom?
kmturg ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:43:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea. I was astonished that he thought there was 1. I figured he just didn't know that girls didn't pee out of their vaginas. Nope he thought it was all one. Guess he thought he had already done anal. Weird shit, cause his little brother knew it!
macphile ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can see confusing the vagina thing because guy's have one tube for urine and semen, but the rest? We're all the same species, so apart from sex and reproduction, it should all work the same--digestion, breathing, all that. What's next, women have gills? Or change color when threatened?
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a terrible defense mechanism. You should spray your enemies with ink from your ink sac, why not?
Etzlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, and kinda sucks I think, would be cool for the woman to have a way to never get one again
poppaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I had to study periods as a part of a unit on hormones in my bio class and I still thought tubes had a part in periods.
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They kinda do, in that successful implantation of a fertilized egg prevents them.
[deleted] ยท 959 points ยท Posted at 20:04:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RED ROCKET IM DYING
whattothewhonow ยท 869 points ยท Posted at 20:24:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP in pieces /u/[deleted]
thehonestyfish ยท 522 points ยท Posted at 20:57:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, wow, they actually were dying
Zahtar ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:38:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people die their reddit accounts don't just get deleted.
MagicallyVermicious ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be kinda cool in a dark, black mirror way.
z500 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Really?
0l01o1ol0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:08:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but if you die on reddit you die in the real world
bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:13 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/DeadRedditors
AWildEnglishman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:54:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he stipulate in his will that his reddit account be deleted or did he just fall dead on the keyboard in such a way as to delete it.
Hawkguy85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must've been one of Judge Doom's Toon Town weasels. RIP, little guy.
PopTartsAndBeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A moment of silence please.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/deadredditors
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 20:34:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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reverendbeast ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:25:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He ded from dat red rocket.
Wiiplay123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:39:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why?
EmbertheUnusual ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 20:46:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to shreds you say?
worktempthrowaway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:53:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tsk tsk tsk. Well, how's his wife?
EmbertheUnusual ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:37:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to shreds you say?
RandomRedditorWithNo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:20:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And how did his wife hold up?
rivaset101 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:35:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To shreds you say?
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mummified and turned into teriyaki jerky.
Squid0110 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And his wife?
Joeycapkid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How's his wife holding up?
V-Bomber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And his wife?
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:00:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jamie2234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username does not check out
It's a meme, u dip
SnoTheLeopard ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:36:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now think why in the Fallout games you find Dogmeat at a Red Rocket truck stop.
BLMdidHarambe ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:21:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah...that's a thing.
kmturg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:33:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"lipstick" is what a couple of kids I know used to call it!
Pandoras_Fox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐
Dr_Gillian_McQueef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call it his lipstick...
mamajt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude my kid's daycare is set up so each room has a different planetary theme.
Milky Way (babies), Little Dippers, Big Dippers, Blue Moons, Yellow Suns, Purple Planets, Shooting Stars, ...and... Red Rockets.
But he's so proud to be one...
anarchyreigns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it was a lipstick.
mar1021 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what my family's always called it, too!
ageofpwnage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
isn't that what it's called? for dogs?...
meaniereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here comes the lipstick!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now this is what I call the Red Rocket.
darkbreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Red rocket! Red rocket! Red rocket! Red rocket!
MadDoctor5813 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Toronto. Makes it even better.
english_teatime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel that I must one up the stupid cuteness of "red rocket" with "his little red crayon."
Pseudoboss11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also a graphics card.
SubArena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as Red Pocket. Was confused for a moment
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you not heard "red rocket" before? I thought it was the accepted PC term for a dogs penis!
xevilrobotx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also heard 'Red Lipstick' and 'Red Popsicle"
MisterDonkey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:09:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It tastes nothing like a popsicle.
Gendoyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the Best South Park episode
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've...never heard that...?
DropletFox ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:20:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What can a woman do, surgically, to stop her period permanently?
ugga_mugga_bitches ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:34:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hysterectomy. Removal of the uterus. But this isn't an elective procedure. Women aren't able to go to the Dr and just ask for it. There has to be medical reasons why before they will take parts out.
frenchmeister ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:19:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And sometimes, if you go for the laparoscopic surgery option, your surgeon goes a little wild with the morcellator and slices up your intestines, letting you bleed halfway to death before anyone notices!
Source: my mom, who still faces chronic health issues over a decade after her hysterectomy. Abdominal surgery is incredibly risky, folks. Ain't nobody should be looking for a surgical solution to those pesky periods.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:18:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kuudereingly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hysterectomy would mean there is nothing to ablate.
Some gynos are willing to do it without already being sterilized, but they inform you that it has the possibility of making you sterile. And then there are some gynos that won't sterilize you until you've had a few kids first, 'just in case'.
Arianfelou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you can also often get a hysterectomy if you're a guy! (but taking testosterone on its own is often enough to stop the whole menstruation part)
nellieshovett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an ablation just last Thursday. And since it doesn't guarantee sterilization, my doctor went ahead and removed my tubes as well. Getting pregnant after an ablation can be life threatening to the mother as there's no lining for the fertilized egg to attach to.
I had about a year of irregular periods, and we briefly tried medication, but that just made me bleed more, so I said to go ahead and shut it down, please. I'm childless, but I'm also 39, so he knew I was pretty certain I wasn't going to change my mind.
Rahallahan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an ablation as well. It stopped my periods completely for about 2 years. They have come back now, but they are so slight that really the only time I realize it is when I use the bathroom.
vc-10 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:42:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A total hysterectomy. Removal of the uterus. But of course this leads to the inability to have children, and early menopause.
Some contraceptives (those based around progesterone, rather than oestrogen) can also prevent women from having periods, but it depends on the person. Some don't have any period, some have persistent spotting, it's tricky to know how you're going to react. It's certainly worth discussing those options with your doctor.
RazTehWaz ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:38:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It only causes early menopause if the ovaries are removed too. My mother had a hysterectomy aged 32 due to cancer, but her ovaries were left in. She no longer had periods but could still feel symptoms around ovulation time each month.
Over 20 years later now she is just starting to get menopause symptoms.
vc-10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, absolutely, but while she wasn't bleeding she was still having periods. Some people also have oophorectomies, which is removal of just the ovaries (and normally the fallopian tubes) which would also stop periods completely.
Edit: still having periods as in still having the cramps, hormonal changes etc which from what I've heard are way more unpleasant than just the bleeding!
Silver_Valley ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:08:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Removing just the uterus doesn't actually cause menopause. It's the removal of the ovaries that causes menopause. Many women choose to have their ovaries removed at the same time if they need a hysterectomy, to avoid the rare but pretty horrible chance of ovarian cancer in the future. That was nearly always done in the past.
However, you can also choose to leave your ovaries in (as I did)when you have a hysterectomy. You have no period, but you have no sudden menopause. For an unknown reason... Most likely related to the hormones - or lack thereof- produced by the uterus, post hysterectomy women tend to have early menopause. But it is gradual, not all at once as with surgery. I had my hysterectomy at 47 and now am almost 60 and never even knew when I went through menopause!
vc-10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup- but the ovaries and fallopian tubes are often removed too.
Interesting that a plain hysterectomy typically results in an early menopause- I never knew that!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 37 and I definitely know I'm going through it.
DropletFox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:46:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a dude, but I can see why you thought otherwise because I asked.
Sam-Gunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a pansy, discuss the options like they said!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:49:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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vc-10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Total hysterectomy. Which includes the ovaries and fallopian tubes.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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vc-10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Normally termed as total hysterectomy, except in medical notes. This is Reddit, not a medical textbook- the common term is total hysterectomy (while not being completely correct).
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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vc-10 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:32:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From speaking with patients...
Existanceisdenied ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:54:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, that's what /u/DropletFox was asking for
slinky999 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:18:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Endometrial Ablation. The lining of the uterus is irradiated to basically cauterize it. Sometimes it can grow back, especially if the patient is younger, but a lot of times it can stop periods permanently. Less invasive than a hysterectomy for women who qualify.
meteor_stream ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uterine ablation. They burn out the epithelium inside the uterus, which stops periods or makes them very, very faint :)
Jokey665 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine a hysterectomy would do the trick.
MouseyHousewife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cisplatin did the trick for me.
lunchesandbentos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ovary removal without hormone replacements... uterine removal... That's about it.
horses_for_courses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a hysterectomy - remove the uterus. It will also remove her child bearing abilities.
Viperbunny ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:38:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was visiting my mom and we werr watching a show on TV. I had to explain what a happy ending is. She will be 60 this year. I am 30 and have two kids. Well, I guess it is good practice for explaining things to my kids. I think I traumatized my 4 year old when I explained they had to open me up to get her out. We were reading a box on how baby form and are born. She laughed when I explained most babies come out if the vagina and almoat cried when I explained she didn't. She was upset and saying she didn't do it to me. I told her no, she didn't. I knew it would happen and was okay with it and that her sisters were born that way too. I had to keep telling her it was okay. She calmed down after a few minutes. Hope I didn't scare her for life by trying to be proactive.
hawgear ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:49:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was skimming through and read "China/Taiwan" as "Shania Twain". I had to read the whole thing before I realized there was no country music sex ed video.
albanymetz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:10:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"if you sat on a seat still warm on the bus that a guy sat in before you, you can get pregnant" - Seriously? If that were the case, there'd be like a billion people in China. Some people..
union_jane ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:39:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm dyslexic and I managed to read your second to last sentence as "Shania Twain's sex ed was severely lacking."
LollipopLincoln ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that what dyslexia is like? Cos I did that too!
union_jane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah - if you misread things like that on a daily basis it might be worth getting a test if it affects your work and communication. If not, just enjoy the misunderstandings :P
sleepymutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a vet tech that worked a Spay neuter clinic and I got asked about how the vet removed the penis... nope.... most horrible question was "do you guys use anesthetics?". Nope, we just hold them down and let em scream it out while we remove the necessary organs ๐
AvatarWaang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ELI5, why doesn't getting tubes removed stop your period? Does the egg still drop, or is it just the uteran wall shedding?
lunchesandbentos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:52:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just the uterine wall gets shed. The egg gets pops out and floats around in my abdomen until it disintegrates and gets absorbed back into my body.
AvatarWaang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah so you can absorb it's power. Is the period more or less painful? Also, isn't it more common to get your tubes tied? Sorry, I don't know much about female vasectomy
lunchesandbentos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, I don't feel more powerful.
It actually doesn't make a difference in terms of how painful or the quantity of the period, and yes it's more common to get it tied but my OBGYN's office leads a lot of research so they're always improving--they actually would cut a segment of the tube out and then cauterize the ends. This makes sure there are no "accidental" meetings because it has happened before that just tying was not enough.
Then before my C-section my doctor asked me if I just wanted to remove them since it decreases the chance of ovarian cancer by 20%--turns out ovarian cancer sometimes starts in the fallopian tubes.
I wasn't gonna use'em anymore and my insurance covers both so I said take'em.
AvatarWaang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty dope, good to know. It's always good to be the one guy who knows anything about women's health, so thank you very much.
lunchesandbentos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to be of service!
MarcusXXIII ยท 1623 points ยท Posted at 22:46:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to explain to an adult you have to brush all the sides of a teeth. Like... no, just the side that shows when you smile is not enough. And yes flossing is not just a thing for rich people.
Kittenprincess0816 ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 02:10:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was young my mother only said to "brush the teeth that show". Like front 6 top and bottom to save money (on toothpaste I assume?). I was well into childhood before a dentist made the connection that all my molars were full of cavities but my front teeth were peachy keen. 3 root canals and countless fillings to replace ones that have gotten bad over time. I think I'm good.
Thanks mom.
deadly_nightshades ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why a mom would say that... like, what purpose does it serve?
sigharewedoneyet ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:45:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same reason why my mother never bought us floss but stole the free stuff we got from the dentist.
3comma ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But she took you to the dentist...
sigharewedoneyet ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:29:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped trying to understand her logic.
Kittenprincess0816 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:21:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She took me to the dentist because to qualify for state assistant medical for children there had to be at least one dental visit used a year (I think)
caffeine_lights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's just what she learned from her parents and so on? I mean way back there were all kinds of myths and such about teeth and tooth decay was just seen as an inevitable thing because people didn't know how to prevent it adequately.
MarcusXXIII ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:44:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man this is exactly I tried to stay put and serious with said patient. Nobody even told him before. Still it was baffleing to me.
-zara ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I brush my entire mouth with a dot of toothpaste smaller than a dime.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:21:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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alittlegnome ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 09:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, using more toothpaste diminishes the effectiveness because part of the mechanism it uses to clean your teeth is light abrasion, which will only work with a thin layer. The best example on a macro scale that I can come up with, is imagine that you want to clean a table, using a paste made of baking soda and water, and a brush. If you put a thin layer of the paste all over the table, and then scrub with the brush, you'll clean the surface of the table. If you put a three inch layer of paste on the table, and then brush, you'll never clean the surface of the table because you're just moving the paste around on top of itself.
So yeah. Basically you need a pea size amount of toothpaste, or smaller.
Raiquo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While your explanation was correct, this part is a bit of an exaggeration. It's supposed to be a dime-sized amount (a pea-sized amount for children under 6), which is a bit bigger than a pea. If you don't have enough, then you're just massaging spit around your teeth, and you'll miss out on any benefits to your enamel.
Kittenprincess0816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. A tube easily last 3 months. So 1$ a month tops out of the budget?
justnodalong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my dad's mom never told him to brush his teeth ever, so he didn't. all of his teeth fell out and at 21 he had to get full dentures. mom was shocked when he took out his dentures
_lemonem ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:16:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents did the same thing! It wasn't until I was older and my friend's mom (a dentist) visited the school when I found out you had to brush everywhere. It took me forever to get into somewhat of a routine to brushing my teeth, and I even have an app for it now.
No root canals, but my teeth are full of fillings and not attractive at all, despite me working very hard to get them looking okay again.
I've also had to have braces three times, so I'd like to have attractive teeth now that I can chew and talk right haha.
Kittenprincess0816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:24:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know the feeling. Sometimes I'll be in the car on the way to work and I'll be like, darn it!! I keep mouthwash in my car just in case. Because even now like 7+ years later. I still sometimes forget.
SourNotesRockHardAbs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she meant the ones that show when you open your mouth, which would be all of them. My dentist jokingly says "brush the ones you want to keep" meaning all of them.
Your kid brain just took it too literally/the wrong way.
Kittenprincess0816 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, literally the "smile teeth". She wasn't exactly the best mother (for a whole basket of reasons). But I distinctly remember being punished for actually putting the toothbrush in my mouth vs just -on the teeth- on the outside of the smile. I don't know if she thought I would gag myself? I have no idea the reasoning.
melance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The Social Six" as they are called
FGHIK ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 00:58:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flossing is for people rich on time
DigOutDigDeep ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 01:51:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or for people with a dentist appointment later that week.
Crazyfish64 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:01:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So true.
BestFriendHasLeprosy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:07:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY.
curiousiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep floss or a bag of flossers in your car.
But who am I kidding, I don't do that. This was more a case of me telling myself to do something on the Internet.
weretomato ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:55:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fun fact: flossing has been proven to be bullshit. Brushing and mouthwash work just as good if not better.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source on that? I'd love to believe it but all of the dentist's and even doctors tell me to do it.
Sp99nHead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flossing is really unpopular in Europe and my dentist always told me that it does more harm to your gums than good to your teeth.
ChipsAndTapatio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so weird because when I don't floss I end up with severe plaque build-up and once nearly got gingivitis, but when I floss my gums are super healthy and my cleanings at the dentist go a lot more quickly. Maybe your dentist could be misinformed?
ChipsAndTapatio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Flossing removes food from between your teeth, in ways that brushing and mouthwash can't replicate. I have bad teeth with a lot of funny (too tight or too big) gaps and if I didn't floss I just wouldn't be able to clean them properly. Maybe the study you're referencing was on people who have had braces? (I hear braces help fix the gap size, making cleaning with a brush more effective.)
weretomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:14:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a study that showed that brushing/mouthwash did just as good or better than brushing/flossing. http://www.ada.org/en/science-research/science-in-the-news/the-medical-benefit-of-daily-flossing-called-into-question
kampamaneetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's absolutely not true. Lots of dentists say it's even more important than brushing.
weretomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not what the ADA say
kampamaneetti ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:49:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just google, "Is flossing or brushing more important?" you will find pages and pages saying that flossing is more important.
The ADA says to do both. You're either a troll or an idiot.
JesusIsMyZoloft ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shoot. Just remembered one of my 2017 resolutions was to floss every day. I'm 0-8.
SeducesStrangers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just go buy an electric toothbrush and floss a couple times a week.
Frank_Thunderwood ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:25:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Electric toothbrush + waterpik
frozenHelen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:01 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry. It's never too late to give up!
MiffedCanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are the rest of your resolutions coming?
guacamoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a pack of those little twigs with a bit of floss on them. But not the cheapest pack, the better ones last longer. I just keep them around in different places and use them when I notice them and have time.
The dentist told me "no, use real floss", but let's be real, I'm not perfect, it's this or nothing.
parsac58 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lifetime of floss is, like, one one-hundredth of the co-pay on a root canal. I don't know how much that translates to for people that can't afford dental insurance.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it is! You poor people surely are getting uppity thinking you can use floss. Putting on airs like us purebloods, ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
aboxacaraflatafan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:59:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, look at mister posh over here. "Oh, you haaahve to floss." Aren't we all hoity-toity? Listen, Richie Rich. If not flossing was good enough for Mr George Washington, it's good enough for me, sir!
daniyellidaniyelli ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a guy in our office say that when you have a wisdom tooth pulled, tooth number 2 became tooth number 1 and so on and so on. And we told him the wrong tooth had to be pulled. He screamed down the entire hallway to other patients that we were crackheads.
UndeadKitten ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually got confused once when Tooth 3 (not sure what number) was being recommended for a root canal and I "knew" Tooth 1 was the problem.
I had my wisdom teeth and a set of molars removed as a teen because they didn't have room... I thought my dentist was gonna split her gut while she explained my misunderstanding to me. (I was meek and scared to point out the "mistake" and when I finally did she was kinda confused them realized the issue. I was laughing by the end despite being sore because she just seemed so tickled by figuring out why I thought she wrote down the wrong tooth.)
MarcusXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah why I am not even surprised by that? Lol poor staff and yourself
wolvern76 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:37:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, when they removed flossing as an FDA necessity, my first thought was "scrape, not pull" between the teeth
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AlasEarwax8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:51:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're breaking up the bacteria and removing debris.
caffeine_lights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bacteria and plaque tends to clump so it works. It dislodges and removes the clumps and lets saliva get in there to rinse out any leftovers.
velcamp ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flossing IS for rich people. Have you seen floss prices? I always ask for a couple extra packs at the dentist, because a $40 co-pay every six months and understanding doctors go a lot farther than dropping six bucks for a two-pack every month or so. Cheap, crappy floss by the inch, or fine as heck quality floss by the mile? No contest.
Underscore56 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been wondering how I can reach behind my first four teeth for flossing.
AlasEarwax8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use a floss handle.
caffeine_lights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Book an appointment with your dental hygeinist (or add it onto your next check up) and they will demo it for you and instruct you in correct technique.
thoawaydatrash ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:54:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh look at Mr. Elitist here with his background in dental medicine telling me about his Lexus and his dental floss.
missmortimer_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had to explain to a patient that he should be trying to brush his teeth at the gumline. He had only been brushing the biting edges and surfaces of the teeth, half the tooth basically. He'd been avoiding the rest because of the profuse bleeding that occurred if he touched his gums with a brush. Of course the gums were severely infected (gingivitis), which caused more bleeding, which led to less brushing, and so forth. Poor guy.
marissanikkole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol good lord. That's funny.
LukeTheGeek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was smart as a kid for figuring out that the back of my teeth probably needed brushing as well.
TryUsingScience ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:08:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this misconception as a kid, quickly corrected by my parents. I think I got it from at least one popular kids' show that showed the characters brushing just their front teeth. No idea which one, I just remember feeling betrayed that the adults were telling me a different way of brushing my teeth than the tv show had.
scaredallthetime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh la dee da, look at Mr. Fancy flosser over here.
SuddenSeasons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you an MD? Can't imagine a Dentist being surprised by that one.
No, it's not normal for your gums to bleed. No, your baby didn't suck the calcium out of your teeth.
MarcusXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I'm a dentist. And it was, I'm very sorry to tell, a new low.
The hard part was to keep a straight face and be polite and actually teach him to do it well. But motivation and self-help can do wonders.
Mr_Gilmore_Jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 100% positive that 99% of people don't floss.
theonewhogroks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The effectiveness of flossing seems to not be supported by evidence: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f7e66079d9ba4b4985d7af350619a9e3/medical-benefits-dental-floss-unproven
itspotatohhhhhhhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dentist man( or woman) can you explain to me how to floss with my teeth all fucked up? Basically there is no gap because we could never afford braces
MarcusXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry man its hard to explain via text. By in large : practice even if it bleeds and hurt at first. give it 2 weeks it will get better.
The best I can do is this video
NIceArabGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Them there rich fancy pants people with that there tooth string!
Chel_of_the_sea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Serious question: how the hell are you supposed to floss as smoothly as I've always seen it done in portrayals? Every time I've tried, it gets sort of stuck between my teeth and I end up having to (very uncomfortably) tug to get it back out.
MarcusXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... practice? try to pry it gently up, not forward or backward where the is a tooth?
sorry it's feel-bad answer but like a lot of thing : practice and get better at it.
deyesed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair floss is expensive when you compare it to other thread by length.
Hexatica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Portugal no one talks about flossing. It's extremely rare at least. I've never been asked if I floss in 21 years of existence
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it was just for rich people, they wouldn't sell dental floss at Wal-Mart
Tommy_Tukyuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only found out a few years ago that you're supposed to brush the inside part of your teeth. I don't remember ever being formally taught how to brush my teeth, and maybe my parents missed that part too.
EmboarsFlamingBeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flossing? I've never been told to floss. Not by parents, teachers, dentists or orthodontists. What's the benefit of flossing over just brushing well? I'm almost 25 and never had a cavity or any tooth problem at all.
MarcusXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard flossing isn't as important as we thought. Incorrect?
MarcusXXIII ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Floss only those you want to keep
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:38:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I'm talking about: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f7e66079d9ba4b4985d7af350619a9e3/medical-benefits-dental-floss-unproven
bannana_surgery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it at least good for getting annoying shit out of your teeth. Damn you, popcorn!
AlasEarwax8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The article isn't saying that flossing has no benefits. It's saying that the methods used to study flossing so far, are not reliable. That doesn't mean it has been proven that floss has no benefit.
MarcusXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats not a peer-review article. Its a click-bait article.
this is a press release by the American Dental Association, citing its sources
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
nevermind420 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Study says flossing benefits unproven
MarcusXXIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You cite a media text that says it has done its research while citing no peer review source and even telling ADA is responding to them that they are wrong.
Simply put. Floss.
We also do some nice dentures
Tkerst ยท 4122 points ยท Posted at 23:26:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a patient in our high priority area for DKA. Sugar was in the 800s. Stomach pain, nausea, vomiting and the such. Pulled Burger King and gummy worms out of his backpack and proceeded to eat them. Like bro do you even know what diabetes is? Noncompliance and lack of medical knowledge is a big thing in Detroit
AnyelevNokova ยท 1450 points ยท Posted at 01:54:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CNA here -
I did a patient's glucose the other day and it came back in the 500s. They were complaining of stomach pain and nausea; just really miserable. I reported the number to the nurse and, while we waited for insulin, the patient asked me to bring them ice cream.
WHY. Their reaction was very clear once I told them what their blood sugar was at -- they knew it was bad; heck, they started crying. But then immediately asked for ice cream. Because that'll totally solve the problem... I mean, I'm a bigish girl, and I'm no stranger to emotional eating, but when your blood sugar comes back so high that the nurse has to drop everything to come treat you, it's probably no bueno to reach for the sugar.
The nurse and I were able to convince them to throw away the pile of crap they had on their table (soda, candy, piece of pie, etc.) and that sugarfree applesauce was an improvement over eating ice cream. But man... The next day, they were right back to ordering pizza delivered to the facility and not checking a single fruit or vegetable on their menu.
My job is to support the patient, but damn is it hard sometimes. I can only "positively encourage them to select healthy options" so many times :\ If they don't want to eat their vegetables, I can't force them to.
2074red2074 ยท 179 points ยท Posted at 02:40:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you allowed to tell people that they will die within the next five years if they don't change?
AnyelevNokova ยท 200 points ยท Posted at 02:46:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I'm also technically not allowed to say no if they ask for ice cream. I can get the nurse to try to talk them out of it, but if they are oriented and informed and still explicitly ask me for ice cream, then I am required [facility policy] to go get it for them. There's this whole balancing act we do with autonomy vs. good decisions.
2074red2074 ยท 243 points ยท Posted at 03:06:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate those kinds of policies. I remember when I used to tutor, students would come in and say "Hey I got a 20 on all my last exams, what do I need on the final to make an A?" I couldn't tell them that they would fail the class. I could tell them that they needed a 370% though.
ChanmanVXIIX ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:43:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a good policy, very aligned with nature.
swcollings ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 05:11:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if they got 20's on all their previous exams, they might think 370% was an achievable grade...
IthacanPenny ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:13:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol reminds me of the future valedictorian I taught my first year teaching (her junior year). I gave her back her precalculus test with a grade of 52/50... at which point she started crying because "getting 52% will ruin her academic record!" Still face palming over that one.
Pufflekun ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she didn't hear the "out of 50" part? I find it hard to believe that she could otherwise do so well on a pre-calc test, haha.
IthacanPenny ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wrote 52/50 on her paper. My students suck at fractions. It's quite freightening, really.
lookitsnichole ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:40:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure how it works in your school district, but I was an advanced math student. This caused me to skip 2 years of math based on my standardised testing scores. Those 2 years were when we learned how to deal with fractions. So, in 11th grade I'm taking calc and our teacher can't figure out why we're all so scared of fractions. We explain to her we all either skipped grade 6, or 6 and 7 of math and never properly learned how to deal with them. Or calc teacher actually spent a few days going over basics and gave us worksheets for the multiplication and division of fractions.
If your school district is similar that might be the issue.
IthacanPenny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard! Curriculum should be made more rigorous, not skipped! You are not well educated, and it is a shame your school failed you in this way.
lookitsnichole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can understand where they're coming from because I wouldn't have been able to take calc as part of a normal high school experience (trig is required for it, which most people take senior year). There really should have been a year that included more topics, just compressed, because skipping things obviously didn't work out super well. I think fractions were the only real issue though, because I did still take pre-algebra.
wtfdaemon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As frightening as your spelling of frightening? :)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:40:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused, aren't you the one at fault for giving a mark higher than the possible marks?
Edit: can someone explain rather than down voting?
blaquelotus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What it likely meant is that she got all 50 of her questions right, then either nailed some bonus credit questions, or she turned in an extra credit project which was worth 2 points towards the test's grade. That is usually how these scenarios work.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has over 100%, it won't hurt her grade but leave a tiny amount of wiggle room
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, exactly, my assumption would be that i got 52% because you can't get 104%.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... 104% isn't a fake number, don't throw out all of fractions math just because mixed numbers exist.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but you can't get more than 100% on a test.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes you can. Extra credit.
IthacanPenny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On what planet does 52/50 mean 52%?
Besides, I don't grade with percentages, I grade on a point system. So you have the opportunity to earn, let's say, 500 points in a semester. This test was weighted ten percent of the semester grade (50 of the 500 points). Th amount of points you've accumulated toward your final grade at any point in the semester can be found by adding up all the points you've earned so far and dividing by 500.
IthacanPenny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:50 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Others have explained that it was extra credit, specifically a bonus question. Why would I be at fault for allowing my students the opportunity to show that they've gone the extra mile by answering a more difficult question? Bonus questions tend to be those that are above and beyond the scope of the course, not something I want to penalize the students for not knowing, but something I would want to reward them for going above and beyond.
helm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:04:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this the first time she wasn't graded out of a hundred?
notquite20characters ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that for my math courses, which kinda makes sense.
Bensemus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They couldn't figure it out on their own? Were the weights of the different parts of the mark not told to them?
2074red2074 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:51:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tutored math, so...
Bensemus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So did they just not know how much each test and final was worth or did they not know how to calculate the mark they needed?
2074red2074 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't know how
Bensemus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kinda sad
Vaadwaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well this makes more sense: If they realize they can't pass they will stop paying.
2074red2074 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:08:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a free service provided by the university. They don't pay.
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The service is free to them. It is distinctly possible that if your service isn't getting enough bookings then your budget will be cut.
2074red2074 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:35:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, the budget is only used to pay a scheduling guy and the tutors, and the tutors get paid by the appointment instead of sitting in all day for drop-in tutoring.
holaquerida ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 03:30:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds odd, but if people with anorexia can be sectioned for not eating enough to the point that it's a risk to their health, surely someone like this can be sectioned for it? They're obviously a risk to themselves?
AnyelevNokova ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:18:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a super muddy area, and the laws on this side of the pond are changing and evolving all the time. The TL;DR of MY situation (and this is with the laws of my state and policies of my facility) is that I have to uphold the patient bill of rights above all else. This includes the informed right to refuse treatment. Patient autonomy kind of trumps everything else. We are required to treat them, but if they refuse treatment, our hands are mostly tied.
Here is a resource that kind of outlines involuntary treatment - most sites I could find are aimed specifically at mental illness, but it spills over into the medical side as well. This longer essay goes over the subject in much more depth. Basically, as long as a person is considered competent, we cannot compel them to accept treatment. The only time we could forcibly treat them is in an emergency.
In other words, if my diabetic patient refuses their insulin, we would absolutely sit and try to talk them into it. We would explain why they need their insulin; we would try to work through why they are refusing it; we would explain the potential consequences of not taking their insulin. We would then document the refusal, likely contact the on-call MD, and later attempt to give it to them again. But if the patient is mentally capable of understanding this (aka we don't have a diagnosis that would indicate incompetency and they are alert & oriented) and firmly states that they are refusing their treatment, then we are required to comply. We can't strap them down and forcibly inject them. Now, I'm in a SNF, so there is the whole patient bill of rights Medicare/Medicaid compliance issue (which makes patient autonomy a Big Fucking Deal, vs. if we were in, say, an ER.) But, regardless, without it being an emergent situation, our hands are tied. A refusal is a refusal, and we could be mega sued, stripped of our licenses, etc. for violating it.
Now, people can be deemed incompetent. That's a whole separate process and issue. But if the person is considered competent, then we can't force them to take their insulin or eat a healthy diet. If they fall into ketoacidosis, we transfer them to the hospital where they are treated. And if they come right back and keep pigging out, then there's nothing we can do. The patient's bill of rights [which varies from facility to facility, but is generally pretty universal] prevents me from going in their room and throwing their junk food away without their consent, for example. We can urge them to put down the pie, but if they want to eat it, then they can. Same thing with refusing their breakfast - we can explain to them that they need to eat their regular meals in order to keep their blood sugar stable, but if they refuse to eat, we can't just stick a feeding tube in them because they're making a bad decision. Even if it's a risk to themselves - if they know that they're making a bad decision, and know that it might kill them, then we can't stop them.
I mean, seriously, I would welcome a lawyer or another medical practitioner with personal experience to weigh in in better detail. This is just MY understanding of it, as it applies to me.
daymcn ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Accepting a refusal is one thing, but enabling a destructive behavior is another. Refusing to assist them to not comply to medical advice should be allowed no? High blood sugar ND in a facility? You don't get to choose from the menu. You want a high sugar food? You go get it yourself, I won't stop you.
AnyelevNokova ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:20:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A nurse pointed it out elsewhere, but unfortunately, the current healthcare system -- particularly where CNAs are involved -- has a "the customer is always right" attitude. I could get written up, fired, and [if it's bad enough] even lose my license for refusing to do certain things that are in my job description. This includes telling the patient, "no - if you want ice cream, go get it yourself." There are some other people who will tell you that they do this all the time, and they might have the work environment where that is acceptable behavior, but mine is not. We are often told by management that we have to support peoples' decisions, even if they happen to be crappy ones. Autonomy, freedom, etc.
I discussed it with the dietitian the other day and we straight-up don't have a diabetic menu. We have a regular menu with options that they can choose from, and most of it is pretty healthy. It's not unusual for the diabetics to choose one entree, both desserts, and then go get more crap from the vending machines or have it delivered to them. And no, I'm not allowed to fill out their menu for them or add healthy selections on [when they didn't choose them.] I can prompt and suggest, but I'm not allowed to just do it behind their back.
iznotiz ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:00:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better details: my cousin had a kid, had every intention of breast-feeding. I was there while she explained this to three different nurses, each of them holding a shot and insisting that her milk just had to be dried up. Each of them had to be near-physically removed from the room, as they refused to leave until cousin had the shot.
In the middle of the night, a nurse injected her while she was half-asleep. And that is MY understanding of hospital ethics.
AnyelevNokova ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And she should have filed a complaint and/or sued. Unless there was a medical reason that her milk had to be dried up (??? why?), then the subject should never have even come up. The only thing I can think of is if she was on some kind of medication that made breastfeeding unsafe for the infant, in which case she likely would have been advised about the risks posed to the child. But even then, without an order or an emergent situation, injecting her against her consent is -- last time I checked -- considered assault.
I'm sorry that happened to your cousin. That's absolutely not in line with ethical policy.
iznotiz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as we could figure out, the hospital was pushing a particular manufacturer's formula -- other women were complaining that they were being bullied into the shot.
hahasadface ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:48:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that's almost Nestle level evil. Did anything come out of it? Seems like a story the media would go crazy for.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:16:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This behaviour and attitude is pretty common place. I think it is more institutional than individual (medicine knows best) and while there is def. marketing push it isn't quite as sinister as all that.
iznotiz ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:01:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... you don't seem to understand modern media.
Pufflekun ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:38:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's actually the reason, your cousin could have gotten tens of millions of dollars in a lawsuit.
iznotiz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:30:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because young women can afford to take a hospital to court.
Pufflekun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they can, even if they literally have zero money. Any lawyer who deals with medical malpractice will happily take that case pro bono.
iznotiz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:30:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I forget the average age of a redditor, along comes the reminder.
Pufflekun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why, because you're too young to know what pro bono cases are, but most of reddit is old enough to know about them?
iznotiz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:29:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I've worked in the legal field, yep. Pro bono isn't free to attorneys, who pick up the costs, and risk their future - as do we all - when they go against the corporate world. So pro bono cases are the simple ones, against people who don't have 1,000 attorneys and 10,000 laws that protect the institution against suits. You go right ahead and call around for a lawyer who will go against a car manufacturer or hospital for a promise of the costs of taking on a monolith. I'll just ... wait here. Well, no, but in principle I'll wait -- just as in principle you can take a hospital to court without paying an attorney. Reality? A little different.
EMNJ87 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:17:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did your cousin ever report the nurse/nurses? That's pretty messed up what they did to her. I had the opposite experience. When I had my son, the nurses were very helpful while I tried to breastfeed him. They even brought in a pump as well (he wouldn't latch). Sorry your cousin got stuck with some crappy nurses. :(
pastaenthusiast ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:54:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you? Nursing care is typically very pro-breastfeeding and teaching/problem solving/encouraging new mothers to breast feed is pretty standard postpartum nursing care
iznotiz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SoCal, five years ago. Last year I spent six hours seizing in an ER, and was told I could either accept the 'nothing wrong' diagnosis or be psyched. Went home, spent 3 more days seizing, spent a year getting the use of my arm back using PT techniques I threw together. LOVE the medical community. Seriously helpful.
helmia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:56:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What an absolute horror story, dear god. I can't imagine how helpless she must have felt (especially after giving birth, she must have been mentally and physically exhausted, how dare they bully someone in that state??) those "nurses" should be fired and taken to court. Was she able to breastfeed after the shot at all?
Can I ask in what country this happened?
iznotiz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Southern California. 2011.
randomsynapses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf wtf wtf????
purpleRN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:01:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was the practice a long time ago. Because why on earth would a woman want to breastfeed when there's perfectly good/easy formula?
Things have swung the other way now, where formula is demonized and breastfeeding is king.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish being deemed incompetent (medically speaking) was a thing in Australia.
My dad is THE guy. The 200kg T2 diabetic who has had MULTIPLE amputations, who is now in kidney failure, has nerve necrosis to his knees and above the wrists (ie: no feeling in extremities anymore), losing eye sight and basically constantly in pain/miserable/slowly dying...
He gets home from his latest stint in hospital (there's normally at least one week in 8 that he's there) and the first thing he does is order pizza or tuck into the ice cream.
I had to move out of home and to a different state because I refuse to live with/watch/be complicit in it anymore. I tried for years while helping him with day to day stuff to help him change - small changes to diet, I offered to cook meals, go for walks with him - he doesn't want to change and it's hearbreaking to know that I gave up some of my best years to try to help him and he doesn't care enough to try and stick around for me/my brother or to be able to do anything like walk me down the aisle, see his grandchildren born, etc etc.
RabidNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You did all you could be gosh I can think of easier less painful ways of suicide. He does understand what he is doing doesn't he?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have said the exact same thing (re easier/less painful ways to commit suicide).
He seems to know what he's doing, but not really care. I don't understand why he just hasn't taken a handful of pills by now. It's be easier. Horrible for whoever finds him, but easier for him.
AgoraRefuge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anecdotal maybe, but very illuminating. Thanks for sharing. My gut says that maybe the bad blood sugar, give me icecreams situation should be treated like a lesser version of the patient refusing insulin. I'm not medical ethicist, but a guy can dream.
asdf2602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent summary
Vaadwaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people with calorie deficient eating disorders are often considered mentally incompetent/unstable or voluntarily commit. For a diabetic it would need to be associated with that that. Further, if I recall, the food would have to be an immediate danger.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always wondered same!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:11:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the government sectioned people for eating too much, 70% of America would need to be sectioned.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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RabidNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that's what you have to do to become type 2 really
Jracx ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 03:53:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I started as a new nurse in the floor several years ago a similar issue happened to me. Patients glu levels in the 350's and he wants ice cream from me. I refuse his request and try to re educate. Her argues but I re direct him to appropriate food choices thinking it's over.
Next morning my manager calls me into her office and goes over a patient complaint with me. It was this guy complaining that I refused his request for ice cream. I explain the situation and that I felt it was appropriate to restrict him.
Manager in not so many words basically said. "The customer is always right." and I was written up. Years down the road I'and no longer now I just give in and let people make their shitty choices than treat them when the eventually got sicker.
I tell that story anyone people wonder why healthcare is fucked in America.
GiggleSpout ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:26:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely why I like watching the doctor on "My 600lb life". That guy takes no prisoners and is straight up with his patients. Sometimes I even feel a little bit bad about it, but they do need it. He tells them that they are going to die if they keep doing what they are doing, if they refuse to do their therapy after surgery he tells them that they are being babies, since this is a life or death situation.
daymcn ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:58:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love that little.old guy. He is awesome
asdf2602 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:26:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know the show but the term 'morbidly obese' has to give people a clue as to their state of health
mttdesignz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:20:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you know chairs and general seats in every public place, right? there are on trains, on the metro, on the bus, at the doctor, at restaurants, everywhere
All pretty standard in size, based on the medium persons' dimensions. When their ass takes two seats, how come they don't start having some questions?
asdf2602 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure fat people know they are fat. But they may not know that it's a morbid condition.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:23:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obesity has become so commonplace in Western cultures that fat people think they're "normal" sized (because they see each other, all the same level of fat, every day) - the people who used to be seen as monstorously overweight - the 300lb "Fat Lady" in the Opera or at the Freak Shows, 50-10 years ago - are now "fat" (or, "chubby" "fluffy" "curvy" or whatever other euphemism they want to co-opt that doesn't say "has more fat rolls than a seal before hibernation") and people who are morbidly obese - those in scooters because they can't walk that far or those we see on shows like My 600lb Life - they're "I knew I was fat, I didn't know it was this bad"
Denial is a powerful coping mechanism.
asdf2602 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure fat people know they are fat. But they may not know that it's a morbid condition.
tree_lined_mind ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:28:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked healthcare in a home for developmentally disabled adults. One of my residents was diabetic and had the mentality of a 4-ish year old, mom made all the decisions.
We made good dinners, usually healthy but not like extreme, but the mom would call every night and tell us to make her daughter eggs and toast or ice cream. Then she would call back about 30m later and ask her daughter if we gave her the snack.
She also made sure we took her daughter out for McDonalds every Saturday and she picked her up on Sundays and took her to Burger King for a snack, the Chinese buffet for lunch, and then to ice cream. Then she would bitch at us that whatever we made for breakfast made her kid's sugar 350. Not a damn thing we could do because mom was "mentally competent".
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can insurance companies refuse to reimburse for that patient? I mean, how can a facility justify billing for services rendered when it is actively working to counteract those services?
daymcn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fulfilling a patient request that will cause a medical intervention that can be billed for? That sounds a little fishy
supah_ ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 07:56:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
walk a mile in a type 1 diabetic's shoes - 350s are not crazy to us. i hope you never have to find out how normal that is.
Here's what the disease is like: eat two identical meals on two different days at the same time of day. Count the same carbs. Take the same insulin based on the scale the db educator or endocrinologist instructed you with. Boom - two totally different numbers.
Also - you can go too high or too low. The lower you are, you risk unconsciousness or brain damage. The higher you are, you risk long term complications which are crazy innumerable, AND a coma resulting in brain damage.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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supah_ ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 08:24:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh I am a type 1 diabetic who sees that number from time to time and just fucking deals with it. We know how to treat a number like 350 and we don't require input on our self-care unless we are seeking out an actual qualified expert. Thanks. No thanks. PCPs don't have any idea compared to endos and endos don't have any idea compared to type 1s.
Walk a DAY in our shoes. You'd see!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:26:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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supah_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:27:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep.
RabidNerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends how often like if it's daily then it's uncontrolled
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true, and the point is - a 350 is a number that is sometimes just part of life for many of us. Judging a diabetic on a single blood sugar reading is severely misguided. It only gives a momentary snapshot in someone's condition.
RabidNerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:47:31 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah totally. There's so many things that can affect it. Stress, emotions, really cold or hot weather and much more and also insulin does not get absorbed the same. If you give yourself 10 units sometimes only 8 of can actually be absorbed while other days it's more
AV01000001 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't that lead to legal actions being taken out against you or the facility?
Miqotegirl ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:57:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, because as long as they are informed and are of sound mind, they can eat themselves to death.
Also skinny doesn't equal good health. My dad is about 30 lbs overweight and healthier than anyone else skinny or fat in the family. My uncle is 300lbs and watches his diabetes and blood sugar like a hawk. The other uncle is 180 lbs and doesn't watch his blood sugar at all. He'll probably have renal failure soon :(
AV01000001 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Thanks for answering.
I can also vouch on the size thing. I'm 5'7" and 122lbs, found out a few years ago I'm borderline Prediabetic. Doc said I was 1 point above normal but that most people now are probably above that range now. It's sad to know that this is "normal" now. Dr gave me some reading suggestions, I also researched and am more mindful and aware of what I ingest now. Feel loads better now. But I really hope things work out for your uncles and that uncle #2 will hopefully take a cue from uncle #1.
Miqotegirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same about my uncles!
Curious though about which test was 1 point above? If you don't mind me asking.
AV01000001 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:26:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A1C test.
Miqotegirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, that'll do it. But that is great that your numbers are coming down. It's worth it in the long run.
fragilelyon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:18 on January 30, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, I'm 105 at 5' and within a normal BMI. That seems a bit too thin. I wonder if your pancreas was just dumping sugar.
AV01000001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:55 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I was diagnosed with idiopathic gastroparesis about 4-5 years ago; it somehow managed to resolve with occasional mild flare ups. At my sickest, I was 105. As far as prediabetes, it probably didn't help that school lunches weren't long enough, so I would chow on Doritos, Surge, and sour patch kids...setting up bad habits that carried into adulthood.
fragilelyon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:32 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ouch. Also with gastroparesis, so I feel you on that one. I haven't eaten in a few days because I can't cram anything in me. That sucks entirely.
daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not about being healthy at any weight. It's about having a chronic disease that certain restrictions for long term health. Activity aiding in destructive behavior shouldn't be allowed... not attacking you, just the mentality of protecting feeling more than health by the facilty
Miqotegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you! :)
GrumpyDietitian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the dietitian. I tell them no!
therandomlance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At that point it might be better for the world for someone that stupid to finally succumb to their own bad decisions.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuck that. I'm a CNA at a hospital, and I'll tell the patient flat out that they can take their diet complaints to the doctor. I'm not feeding into their bad life choices that extend their hospital stay.
Sergeant_Steve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And pandering to people in this situation really doesn't benefit anyone except perhaps the medical facility because they get more money.
(And money makes the world go around as we all know /s.)
Has_No_Gimmick ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:41:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Five years? A person to that point is bound to die in the next five weeks.
KremlinGremlin82 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just let them freaking die.
lethal909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a nursing home, in which case, theyre probably going to die within 5 years anyway.
Spartan_029 ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 02:45:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they not craving sugar?
Like, I don't particularly understand it all, but when you eat carbs, your body releases insulin, and processes those sugars into whatever your body needs sugars for, and then the waste is tossed out.
If your blood sugar is that high, that means your insulin is not working as intended, and thus your body is not getting what it needs from the sugar you ate, and is telling the brain "Hey yo, that sugar you ate, we can't find it, plz send more." And that's how you get to dangerous levels.
I only think this way, cause my dad doesn't have a sweet tooth, never has, but all of a sudden, he started craving sugary things like candy and soda, and shit, and not feeling well, and that's when he went to the doctor, and found out he had developed diabetes...
Anothershad0w ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your assessment is mostly correct, but they're craving food in general (polyphagic), not just sugars.
Interestingly, on the flip side, when someone is hypoglycemic (low blood sugar), they tend to crave sugars and sweets.
Spartan_029 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 04:21:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, bear with me here, doesn't their response make sense?
You've got a patient, they are poorly educated, and have an obviously poor relationship with food/eating, as evidenced by their newfound condition.
Their body has not been getting the food/energy that it expects from what they have eaten, the body thinks it's starving.
The brain has just been told that the body is malfunctioning, but the body still is saying "Hey bro, where the hell are those cheetos you just ate an hour ago?"
So at this point the patient, unsatiated by the insulin drip (or whatever), who, since a child has associated food, with full, with energy, is now craving calorie dense food, because they don't feel full, and the brain knows something is amuck. They reach out for comfort, and calories, in ice cream.
The next day, the brain is still adjusting to this new life, it knows that yesterday it ate a ton, and didn't get the energy it expected, so again, it wants calorie dense food, in order to perhaps not allow that to happen again. Green beans don't taste good to this person and offer 30 calories/cup, but pizza has a ton of energy stored inside it's crust and grease, and it tastes amazing; let's get that.
You are asking an adult to change their entire relationship with food, literally overnight.
Yeah, for some people a simple wake up call is all they need, an alcoholic who's friend kills someone behind a wheel drunk driving might sober up immediately, and stay that way for life. But just as easily that alcoholic may just redrown their sorrows the very next night.
On top of all this, the patient may not even have a grasp of "good" and "bad" food, hell pizza has a vegetable sauce on it, and ice cream is a dairy, and both of those things are good for you, right?
You have to remember that food can hold the same power, and it will probably take a lot of work, will power and support to change an entire lifetime of habits, not just a stern talking to by a couple of educated strangers.
Good on you for trying, and starting the conversation, you just have to maybe lower your expectations a little, especially with food related disease.
Apologies if any of that came across as negative, it was not my intention at all.
daymcn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, the brain has been releasing endorphins, rewarding the behavior for years longer than insulin has dropped. The compulsion to eat and escape in food can be over whelming.
Adrenalchrome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Type 1 diabetic here.
Everyone experiences symptoms differently, but for me, a bloodsugar between 180-230ish sometimes feels low and I'll want food. Interestingly, if for whatever reason I decide to "eyeball it" and not check my sugars, I can immediately tell I made the wrong decision. Juice or Coke or whatever tastes much less sweet when my bloodsugars are up.
If they are really high, like 300+ then I just feel icky and sluggish. I usually don't feel like eating at all.
Low bloodsugars can make you feel ravenous. It's not a feeling of an empty stomach or traditional hunger. You can feel your entire body absolutely need food.
Miqotegirl ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. I'm hypoglycemic (have been for years) and I rarely crave sugar. I'll buy a box of cookies, get through a couple over a few weeks, then text my sister to come eat them before the go stale. They usually have by that time.
Anothershad0w ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:59:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your story is n = 1, so just because you don't feel it doesn't mean it isn't true for others. Also, what medical condition are you referring to when you call yourself a "hypoglycemic"? It tends to be a consequence or symptom rather than a disease in itself.
For example, myself and my older sister are both type 1 diabetics and we both have sweet cravings when hypoglycemic. Also there's a medically accepted list of symptoms that can occur with diseases. Not everybody gets all of them every time.
Miqotegirl ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 05:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm referring to hypoglycemia aka low blood sugar. I thought hypoglycemic made that obvious. Was diagnosed as hypoglycemic when I was 20 by my PCP. My blood glucose has been tested and below 70 while fasting, have done the five hour glucose tolerance test, have had episodes where my blood sugar has dropped to 50s.
Now, eating sugar does reverse the hypoglycemic state. When I have been hypoglycemic, sometimes I've been hungry, but when my blood sugar is low I usually get nauseated, dizzy, angry and combative, shaky and unable to walk or move around.
But craving sugar? No, I'm usually panicked when in a hypoglycemic state.
Edit: whatever to the downvoters. Sick of your crap. Get lost.
Miqotegirl ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:25:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just as you have you have high blood sugar due to not making insulin, my blood sugar is often naturally low as has been my whole life.
Anothershad0w ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a diabetic medical student I can assure you that I know what hypoglycemia means. What I was getting it was this:
There are 4 hormones that work independently to increase blood sugar, while there is only 1 that decreases it. If there is a diseases that causes all four hormones to get knocked out or dysregulated, I'd love to hear about it or go read more about it. What has your doctor diagnosed you with?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, I'm sorry you have to live with all that daily. I wanna say I'm impressed but feel like it's trivializing. However, I get a cold and I am a big baby, sulking. Glad to know your connecting with your new endo
Miqotegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad I found her too. She's much better at figuring out what to do with all this new crap. This adrenal stuff sucks.
The lupus can really get me down. I'm not going to bullshit you and say "oh but I just keep my head high and keep on trucking."
No, there are a lot of days I don't want to truck anymore. The disease sucks, I hate it. My new treatment is $4K a month, I may be on it until I die.
But hey, I love my husband, my family and my cat. They're enough to make me smile.
Miqotegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I deleted the post above since the person who claimed they were curious never responded.
acidarmitage ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:27:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is exactly how it works. Hyperglycemia does make you hungrier
It makes you hungrier, thirstier, and have to pee more
Idontdoburnouts ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup ...... just tested ..20's .. oh, that's 360+ .. I'm hungry, have to pee but must finish my beer first, then eat like no tomorrow .. no need to worry tho, been at it for 30 yrs. .. no complications to date. In my early 60's .. it's all behind me now ......... lol.
daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also endorphins are released
acidarmitage ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:25:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just so you know... hyperglycemia CAN make you hungry. God's cruel joke, ya know lol
akinmytua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I makes me dieting as a diabetic feel like sysiphus...
Lunaaticz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:34:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The probably knew it was bad for them, but they have a strong addiction, one very much like the addiction for a drug.
Reason and logic is hardly applicable when concerning physical addiction.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you familiar with drug addiction? I can understand food cravings and emotional fulfillment through food, but to compare the two....
Bloodish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:04:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar can definitely be addicting. Not to the point of say, a heroin addiction of course. It's closer to something like a nicotine addiction, but that can still be tough for people to beat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I don't think that makes sugar addiction comparable to drug addiction.
I don't think the only thing preventing people from selling all of their possessions for a hit of sugar is availability.
Shandrith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually there have been studies showing that, in certain people, eating can activate the same areas of the brain as cocaine, heroin and other drugs. I don't know if It activates as strongly, but for some people it isn't just an emotional reaction, it is a true physical addiction. In its own way it can be just as problematic. For example, the post above by u/elevensevenone about their father. It is possible that it isn't that he doesn't want to get better, but that he doesn't have the psychological ability to do so. Even after multiple amputations, knowing what he needs to do and why, he continues with the pizza. That sounds like much more than mere cravings.
Even someone who recognizes what they're doing is terrible is going to have trouble, because unlike an alcoholic or a heroin addict, they must continue using their "drug". It's really kind of awful.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen the studies done in rats, which are the only studies I'm aware of comparing cocaine to sugar. If some IRB approved of intentionally getting humans addicted to cocaine I'd love to see those studies, too. There's a big leap to go from "rats will choose sugar rewards over cocaine rewards" to "sugar is as addictive as cocaine in humans." That's just researchers making names for themselves so they can sell books.
If we take away somebody's sugar, are they going to go into full-fledged withdrawal? No way. I get that there is an addictive component to sugar, but there the research I've seen is far from conclusive and it lacks face validity. For the most part I think redditors nit-picking studies on reddit is just for confirmation bias, but I think the lack of face validity here makes this case a bit different.
Shandrith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no issue with acknowledging that cocaine is more addictive than sugar! As I said, it activates the same regions of the brain, but that doesn't mean that the effect is equal :) I certainly hope no reputable entities are getting anyone addicted to cocaine. As for withdrawl, it's nothing like what one goes through with cocaine or heroin, but there are symptoms. I think it's not as severe for 3 reasons
My point was more that there is a physical component to some people's problems with food, and thus comparisons between drug addiction and food addiction are valid. After all, nicotine, caffine and alcohol are all acknowledged as addictive, but none of them are as bad as cocaine. I think that sugar would be on about the same level as caffeine or nicotine. Similar symptoms when quitting and such. Thanks for the answer, always nice to talk to reasonable people :)
NoirKotori ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:50:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse here, Had to explain to a long time diabetic patient that one fist sized bread roll did not equal one carb.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
=(
DramasticStar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I studied under a dietician for about a week in culinary school. The girl I got put under partially worked the children's ward and legit had super similar ordeal... Except the patient was a roughly 300 lb pre-teen. The parents just kept giving him pizza and fatty fried foods and kept saying "oh no its just baby fat he'll grow out of it"
McWaddle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a teacher. This sounds like my job.
QuickBow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quick question, is having headaches after eating a sign of diabetes. My father has been telling me for a while that it is a sign. The only other "sign" I think I have is drinking a lot of water but it's almost all I drink (besides milk) and I work out 1 1/2 hours a day. Even though my diet isn't great.
AnyelevNokova ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would ask your doctor if you are concerned. Checking your blood sugar is quick and easy, and they can do formal testing to pin down the source of your headaches and/or test you for diabetes, which is generally just a blood draw (or series of draws, at intervals) after a period of fasting. It's very easy - I've done it probably a dozen times at this point. Annoying to not eat breakfast, sure, but very easy.
I AM NOT A DOCTOR: Headaches can be a symptom of diabetes. So can excessive thirst. That's not to say that you should read this, panic, and assume you're diabetic - there are lots of other things that it could be. If you drink a lot of water, for example, but don't feel constantly thirsty, then that's not a symptom, unless you're drinking like a truly excessive amount. Headaches have a large number of triggers; stress, noise, hormone fluctuations, and a long, long list of other conditions, including "we don't know." Now, I've personally figured out that one of my migraine triggers is hypoglycemia, but I'm not diabetic. So none of your symptoms are mutually exclusive, know what I'm saying? Working out also has no bearing on whether you becoming diabetic, aside from weight management - I know skinny T2s, and I know plenty of large people [myself included!] that aren't T2.
Anyways. If you're worried, like I said, it's super easy to test for. And if you start noticing worrying symptoms, it could definitely be worth your while to get some labs run. This page has a good rundown of signs and symptoms to watch for. Even if your insurance doesn't cover it, honestly, I'd get tested just for peace of mind. Your MD can order it if you have symptoms or risk factors, and generally speaking, most insurances will cover it in that situation. If you pass with flying colors, then you know you aren't diabetic. If you are, then you can start managing your condition. So yeah - I hate to give such a wishy-washy answer, but there's no hard and fast rule here as far as the soft symptoms go.
Ringo5tarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear, when I was diagnosed with t1d, they wouldn't let me eat and/or drink anything, and I might have been in the 500s at the highest, but when I say anything, I mean I was allowed to have ice chips once every hour or two, I still don't get it, just like I don't get the people who tried to put an IV in my arm while in the ambulance, while talking about how they weren't sure how to do it.
AllCheeseEverything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No sugar added applesauce is still just sugar, though. Wouldn't ice cream be better since it has fat and protein as well?
Jracx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most places have sugar free ice cream which would be a better compromise than applesauce.
AnyelevNokova ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:28:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually went and looked for it. We were out :\ I called down to the kitchen and had them read off the nutritional information for both the ice cream we had on hand and the applesauce (which is not present on the individual servings) so that I could offer whichever was technically "better". My choices were a 31g (!!) serving of ice cream or an 11g serving of applesauce [in terms of sugar.] The no sugar added ice cream cups I think have 5g of sugar; we just didn't have any at that precise second.
So I got them to eat the applesauce and drink two [personal sized] pitchers of water. Their glucose levels had greatly improved when I checked again about four hours later.
I mean, I agree that there could have been other options. None of us were thrilled about providing applesauce to someone with that glucose level. They had refused everything else, and insisted that they needed something soft and cold. I offered sugar-free jello, but that was shot down too.
AllCheeseEverything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool. Just wondering.
crazymcninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the sugar. It is just as addictive as cocaine. I'm trying to break myself of eating sugar every day (I grew up with a mom who constantly was baking cookies, brownies, or cinnamon rolls), and it's extremely difficult.
Catpurran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a diabetic (diagnosed with a blood sugar of 988) this is one of the safest things to read. For the most part, it's a very easy disease to control. Granted there are generational and other such differences that come into play with how we view it, but outside of having no access to insulin I truly can't fathom why someone would do this
patentolog1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just slip some extra insulin into their IV line. That'll take care of the problem. . . .
Frostblazer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There comes a time when I become so disillusioned with humanity that I begin to think "maybe we should let them kill themselves. Giving them medical treatment would be a waste."
I realize you deal with stupid people every day, so I respect that you can keep on going despite this. I wish you the best of luck in future endeavors.
Wythfyre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honest question: why isn't scolding them a thing? Is it because of free will and all?
hamiltonma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has dealt with an eating disorder/food addiction, I believe that many people with diabetes would benefit from Overeaters Anonymous (OA). I think food addiction in any form is something that more people suffer from than they know- it's more than just anorexia and bulimia.
tl7lmt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as an RN I thank you for your help.
d2beto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my wife few years ago... rehab/hospice, some of these older people would spend hundreds a week on just food for them on top of the regular meals the place provides... she had to quit because her knee basically blew up trying to lift some one really big.
Treczoks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Changing eating habits is tough, especially when the people involved never thought about what they are/were eating.
As a person recently diagnosed with diabetes, I had to attend a course on diet and nutrition. No problem for me (I cook, I can read and understand food labeling, etc), but there were two other kinds of patients there: Two housewives, who have always cooked like they learned from their mom, and had real difficulties understanding food from the fat/protein/carbohydrate view (Why is flour bad? It is flour, not sugar!!!), and some elderly men, who had no clue about food at all apart from eating what their wife cooked and put on their plates.
SolarisIX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These kind of people are why I could never go into medicine. I'm in the "harsh truth" camp, so me saying things like "if you keep up this behavior you WILL fucking die" would be likely. I'll leave it to you more tolerant people.
reallymostlyharmless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is scary, but let me give you a different side to consider. If you are massively lacking in insulin, especially the basal rate, you are effectively starving your cells. Sugar won't get in.
Which is why newly discovered type 1 diabetics are most often ridiculously thin - they are starving and metabolizing all their available fat.
So ... at high blood sugar levels and without insulin most people CRAVE sugar in a way you cannot imagine. It's not going to help that they are half delirious - they only thing they can typically think of is drinking and then sugar (well .. or any carb source).
It takes knowledge and willpower to make sure the insulin resistance is overcome first, the blood acidity returns to normal and then eat some carbs with a sufficient amount of insulin to cover them.
BoozeMeUpScotty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? Our patients with diabetes are on carb restriction, so when they call to order their meals, they can be an idiot and order a hamburger for lunch, but you'd better believe dietary will say, "do you want a small garden salad with no dressing as your side or just nothing at all?" because they shut that shit down immediately. The computer won't even let them input their meal order if it goes over the carb count. And dietary has to check in with the nurse to make sure the five tic patients have already had their sugar checked before actually delivering the plates to the rooms. Damn. Like I've legitimately asked noncompliant diabetic patients how attached they are to their feet. Your hospital is whack.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well...if you would've given that patient enough ice cream it would've solved the problem. Permanently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how much of this type of behaviour stems from childhood. My daughter is just under a year and we give her mostly plain assed veggies. I can't imagine how someone is going to like the taste of broccoil, etc. if they start out on chicken fingers, ketchup, and cupcakes.
ungov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know who is 50 has type 1 diabetes, and he still drinks a lot. Surely not the best idea?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can have pizza delivered to a hospitalยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยกยก
Antiochia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fully understand you. I gave birth in hospital one week ago, and shared the room with a young woman, that was hospitalized for having pregnancy diabetes, obviously not giving a fuck about it and ending with high blood pressure and blood sugar that it was an immediate danger for the baby, and so she needed to be monitored in hospital. While being told several times about the danger, and that she is only supposed to eat the diabetic menu, she got from the hospital, she some how cheated in snacks, and denied to do so, even when the doctor told her that she cant lie to the sugar test. Additional managed to give the whole room the odor of a smokers lounge. You could see the desperation of the doctors and nurses, trying to help, while being sabotaged by the person they tried to help.
Klashus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad's was over 1200 when he finally went in. Got thirst and proceed to pound juice and such kept making it worse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure you've been asked but doesn't your ducking hospital have dietary restrictions? Diabetic patients in our hospital can't even order the shit. The cafeteria just says they can't have it.
losian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't a lot of fruit just lots of sugar anyways with little dietary benefit otherwise?
akinmytua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a diabetic, one of the most annoying things is that when your sugar is high you get hungry. Like how is that supposed to help? But it never fails, if I am ravenous at a random time (say 2 pm) my sugar is high...
TheCommonStew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am very close to someone who has an over eating disorder. It may sound like they just don't care and just want to make these bad decisions but, it can actually be an addiction that just as hard to quit as any drug. The person I know is someone I love very much and have known for a long time. I can tell as soon as they are triggered, and they cannot control their actions. It is literally all they can think about and the only thing in there mind. They could sit down and eat a whole cake while crying because something in them needs it but they know they need to stop but, stopping can be extremely difficult. So in the future, if you have another patient such as the one you described point them towards Over Eaters Anonymous. They are helping my friend to treat the addiction.
Annoying_Details ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But surely you can deny them the privilege of having pizza delivered, or any food from outside?
Or is this not a hospital?
ThachWeave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's a normal blood sugar level? I remember my best friend discovered he had Type 1 Diabetes in high school when he came back from a field trip looking like a walking corpse, his parents took him to the doctor, and it turned out his blood sugar was over 700.
AnyelevNokova ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a healthy adult without diabetes, it's between 70 and 99 mg/dl. Most people will test higher within a few hours of eating a meal; the goal is <140 two hours after a meal. <120 at bedtime (allowance for the fact that you're going to be asleep for a while.)
700 is go-to-the-ER high. A doctor would be able to give you better anecdotes. The diabetics I deal with frequently come back in the mid-200s; not good, but not immediately concerning for established diabetics; usually this means that they either haven't had their meds yet, have been eating poorly, or need a dosage adjustment. Anything over 350 and I run down the hall to the nurse (typically this is the point where people start having signs/symptoms.) 500-600+ is where serious damage is being done. We immediately transfer hospital if they get we can't bring it down from the 500-600 range or they have s/s that merit it (typically, if they're at 600+, they do.)
Personally, I've never seen higher than the 600s, but I also work with people who have nurses that keep them on top of their medication. I know a couple people who work in hospitals that have seen people with blood glucose levels in the 1000+ range; this is the point where people start falling into diabetic comas and straight-up dying. It's very dangerous. That's why uncontrolled diabetes is so scary - it's not just being thirsty and the neuropathy (which, btw, is a sign that things are not good); diabetes can literally kill you, just like that.
ThachWeave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:30 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Good info to know. Thanks for the thorough answer!
RabidNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they shouldn't really be eating fruit or anything with carbs
Protein and fat for diabetics isn't it
Lord_Trajan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your blood sugar is in the 500's, you should probably also be skipping fruit and stay with vegetables and lipid based foods for a little bit...
BlahblahYaga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:56 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, the food service made fun of me after post op when I didn't want their chicken fingers and honey mustard, and requested the veggies and hummus instead. What's the middle ground?
PM_ME_YOUR_KALE ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 02:49:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Translation for non-medical people. DKA = Diabetic Ketoacidosis. DKA can occur in diabetics for a variety of reasons, but a common one seen in the emergency room is simple non-compliance with medication.
A type 1 diabetic is supposed to take insulin so that when the food they eat is turned into glucose the cells can actually use it. If they don't take their insulin their blood glucose level (aka blood sugar, normal is 80-120) builds up, eventually causing their kidneys to start trying to filter it out to keep things steady(dieresis is the medical term for frequent pissing. In this case it's called osmotic diuresis aka frequently pissing to try and dilute/remove an excess of something, in this case glucose).
At the same time the body also turns to burning fat cells to keep running. Burning fat produces ketones as a side effect and the increased ketones in your blood make it more acidic than normal (the "keto" and "acidosis" in diabetic ketoacidosis). Ketones are similar to acetone and have a sweet smell. The body will try and get rid of this byproduct by excreting it in urine, sweat, saliva, etc. The root of the term Diabetes Mellitus (the full name for the disease) comes from greek/latin and means sweet/honey frequent urination, referencing the fact that an untreated type 1 diabetic will likely be pissing out sweet smelling urine like crazy due to the above reasons.
There are a lot of other processes at work that make it worse, and all of this is about 10x more complex than what I've said, but a common theme when this is the problem is that the person seems blissfully unaware of how their current actions are only making them worse.
waterboysh ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just going to note here that DKA is not the same as dietary ketosis. You can be in ketosis and producing ketones with no problem. DKA is mostly a problem for diabetics and eating low or even no carbs will not induce it in a normal, healthy person. If anyone wants more info, check out the side bar in /r/keto
PM_ME_YOUR_KALE ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:49:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also on keto and considered making the distinction, glad you brought it up.
Just to review: If you're diabetic and making ketones = BAD.
If you're eating avocados all the time and producing ketones = NOT BAD
waterboysh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually looked at your username first and wondered if you were. I've been on keto for a little over 2 years now, but I often see people get it confused with DKA so thought I'd chime in :)
PM_ME_YOUR_KALE ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The username came long before keto. Unfortunately I don't get many PMs.
moocowcat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because kale is the worst ;(
We're on keto and have tried kale almost every conceivable way and nope, always like green vomit in my mouth.
Just sayin ;D
seanrowens ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German style, sauteed in bacon grease.
waterboysh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never tried it myself, and your description definitely doesn't make me want to.
datworkaccountdo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:13 on February 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try it like this
http://www.food.com/recipe/olive-garden-low-carb-zuppa-toscana-soup-288988
made this the other night.
Amaaazzzziiinngggg
Cheeseballoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A diabetic making ketones isn't always bad, many diabetics follow a low carb or keto diet and are fat adapted. If blood glucose levels are kept in normal range and there is no dehydration, producing ketones is not a problem and will not lead to DKA.
OverlordXenu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happens to people on a ketotonic diet?
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5myrvl/doctors_of_reddit_what_is_your_most_surprising_i/dc87u7r
PM_ME_YOUR_KALE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean ketogenic? I'm just gonna link to the FAQ from r/keto here
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually really proud of myself for picking up the meaning of DKA from context clues. Didn't really know anything about it, though, so I appreciate the in-depth comment!
inhale-aesthetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing with people like the one in OP's story is that DKA isn't even that fucking hard to treat, all the treatment entails is dialing up a couple of extra units of insulin and pissing on a stick, but people let themselves turn it into a medical fucking emergency.
PM_ME_YOUR_KALE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. I used to work in EMS, seen the same exact story as OP more than a few times.
Mail540 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to subscribe to diabetes facts
PM_ME_YOUR_KALE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So would I
Angerman5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Finally I know why it's called the keto diet, thanks!
MiladyPinkMist84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not in the medical field but I did recently learn about DKA. My dad has been diabetic ever since he had pancratitis. He had it so bad that his organs started shutting down and it pretty much killed all viable tissue in his pancreas. He ended up with a pseudo syst (spelling) the size of a football. Anyway, DKA isn't always caused by non-compliance. My dad's case was actually brought about when his PCP decided to up and change his insulin even though he wasn't having issues with the insulin he was on. The new insulin didn't work nearly as well and we just could not get his sugar under control. We had no prior knowledge of DKA and he nearly died because of it. He's doing well now, though.
Kartavious ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 01:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks... I had a 1274 yesterday. Talked about drinking Pedialyte all day because he had a cold....
oh_bother ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:29:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry... 1,274?!
I'm going to go ahead and do glucose level right now for christsake.
Kartavious ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:38:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.... Record for us. Bicarb 6.77. Potassium 8.... Was interesting
RealPutin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:01:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What in the fuck. Conscious?
Kartavious ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:06:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Asking for medicine to stop the pain.
oh_bother ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:42:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least they didn't get that painful potassium IV (I've been DKA once and I never plan on it again, if not just to avoid that IV). Did fluid just go straight through?
I guess the body acclimates but I welcome death at 500, like literally everything is wrong. I can't imagine doubling that. Did their acidic blood eat through 3 decks of the ship?
Kartavious ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:54:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude got a few liters of fluid, a little insulin to get started, and albuterol. Started to stabilize pretty quick. Went to icu for more treatment.
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain those numbers? I'm a layman
Kartavious ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:09:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ph of his blood was becoming very acidic. All the crap you hear about eating certain diets to keep away the cancer because of your ph is bullshit. Normal blood glucose 60-99. Normal potassium is 3.5-4.5(or 5 depending on the reference). Bicarb is 22-28.
The last one is important because bicarb is the buffer (keeps acid levels low) and it was all gone. Potassium is A big deal because it regulates how muscles contact, especially the heart. You're heart is like goldilocks. Not too much potassium or too little the amount needs to be juuuust right. If it's not then your heart starts to beat funny and I get to break your ribs doing CPR.
TaffyGoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to sit and hear a relative ramble about this for hours like it's going to magically cure my grandma of lung cancer. Kind of wanted to push him out of the car.
Maverick8787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:04 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the actual fuck!! In Canada our glucose measurement is different but holy macaroni a potassium of 8!!
Miqotegirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why pedialyte for a cold?? I could understand a stomach flu but a cold?
Kartavious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:06:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know.
Wayward-Soul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be poor education. Diabetics are taught 'sick day rules' involving monitoring their sugar more often, frequent snacks to keep you glucose from dropping, and drinking enough water. Pedialite may have been suggested as a way to keep hydrated and high enough glucose if a person doesn't feel like eating that day.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that sucks! i hope you're on the mend & feeling better.
chezmonue ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 01:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Detroit hospital vendor here. I once saw a family sitting around a table in the cardiology waiting area eating a box of fried chicken. Next visit "No food allowed" sign.
blahblahyaddaydadda ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how you stay in business as a cardiologist
Tzipity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A certain Detroit hospital has Little Caesar's on site so... no surprise.
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL we have a KFC across the road
supah_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah. hilarious.
yearofawesome ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 01:29:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mind exploded when you said sugar in the 800s. How was he conscious??
Ornithologist_MD ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 02:37:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My EDs record for hyperglycemia and non-altered was 1024. We referred to it as gigabetes.
TheVentiLebowski ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 03:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel bad for laughing out loud at this.
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:00:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, but by God I did it!
amethyst_dragoness ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gigabetes LOL!
vaginasinparis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I found out I had type 1 when I was admitted with DKA with a sugar of 66 (around 1100 I think?).
yearofawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As the kids say, "That shit cray."
lemonade_eyescream ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like is your blood even fluid at that point??
laminarflowca ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 03:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes and it tastes great on pancakes.
Helassaid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:22:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that its a joke but maple syrup is quite literally 1000 mg/dL.I was wrong. It's 100,000 mg/dL.
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are those the units that blood sugar is measured in?
Helassaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typically. Some countries use mmol/L but in the US it's mg/dL.
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what you're saying is that the person over 1000 had blood that was literally more sugar per unit volume than maple syrup? That's horrifying.
Helassaid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I was off by few magnitudes. Maple syrup is 14 grams per tablespoon, which is roughly 14 mL, ergo 1g/mL. But I didn't account for dL. So maple syrup is 100,000 mg/dL, because 1 g/mL is 1000 mg/mL, and then there are 100 mL per dL, so 100,000 mg/dL.
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, ok. That seems more reasonable
pokedoll ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:35:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just imagining it turns into molasses
IDontLikePeaches_AMA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wanna burn some to see the reaction, is it moral to ask where I could get some?
vaginasinparis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my blood sugar is very high, it weirdly feels like my blood is solidifying.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
actually, when you're low and check your bg it's a lot more "runny" than when your numbers are high. you might have expected this might happen - it does!
JayAutolive ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:36:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bro had to grub.
omarfw ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the same reaction just hearing about people who weigh 500+ pounds. It doesn't seem medically possible.
NEXT_VICTIM ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:35:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is something to be said about tolerance levels. A diabetic who has been just barely taking care of themselves can build up a crazy high tolerance to high BG while getting low BG symptoms in the 200s. It's not a good thing but that tolerance can move to make the "normal" non-symptomatic range move.
I had mine move from 90-140ish to the 150-200ish after diabetic burn out and a massively bad year caused a depressing spiral. To feel low at 100 is weird; To feel low at your target (120) is outright discouraging. I'm still working to beat it back down but it's a tough road.
Source: Personal experience and Endo at the Joslin clinic.
vaginasinparis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to feel low at around 6 (around 106 in your measurement). It's so weird and disheartening. PM me if you ever want to vent!
TmickyD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been a type one for nearly 20 years now and I've had a handful of times where my bloodsugar was over 600. Above that, your meter gives you a friendly "HI." Other than thirst and sometimes a headache, high bloodsugars generally don't give me too many symptoms. I've never felt faint from a high bloodsugar.
I've also been below 20 a few times. Those make me feel like passing out, but it still hasn't happened yet! Fingers crossed haha.
vaginasinparis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also type 1 (10 years). Depending on how high my blood sugar is, I can have vicious symptoms - peeing constantly (like don't even bother to leave the bathroom), extreme migraine, vomiting, etc. Just goes to show how individual a disease it is.
tumblingtower ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your body produces even just the smallest bit of insulin (which is basically everyone except bad type 1 DM) then it can keep you out of DKA for a long time.
UnblurredLines ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should know this for sure, but doesn't the brain have largely concentration independent uptake of blood glucose? Unlike for example the retinas where glucose can accumulate if blood glucose remains elevated for a long time.
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also seen a blood alcohol level of .69 bahaha
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you conscious?
yearofawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some might argue I'm not. :-)
NeuroTrip ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like some serious eating disorder shit :[
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people with diabetes sometimes deal with denial :( also - there's a thing called "diabulemia" which is when ppl purposely don't take their insulin to lose weight. it's very sad to read when someone with only 10 years into the disease is going blind or having to have something amputated. it actually happens. :(
NeuroTrip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of "diabulimia"... upsetting :/
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed it is. It's very scary. I once saw a post by a young lady in a fb support group asking questions about amputation. She said she was diagnosed at age 11 and she was only like 19 and already dealing with an amputation because of diabulemia. :( Unfortunately - it's a "thing". :(
KremlinGremlin82 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or absolute lack of self control, which is often what gets people to that point. I love cakes, pies, eclairs- I could eat 5 lbs of them if I could. But will I? Probably not, cause I have some self control.
Kiwi-98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not having mental control over how much you eat is basically binge eating disorder, so they're right actually.
KremlinGremlin82 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could technically not have control of punching people in the face or shitting my pants in public if I want to, right? It's such a first world problem. I grew up in Soviet Russia and we had no food at all in the stores. People would laugh at this "disease". If you've got nothing in the fridge, are you gonna eat it? No. So stop buying damn food, problem solved.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"If I'm gonna die I'll make it worthwhile"
bedroom_fascist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:48:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna say, now I know how I want to die. I used to think I wanted to suffocate beneath a horde of horny Scandinavian girls, but just jacking my blood sugar out of the park (and what you have to do to get there) just sounds so ... epic.
PyroDesu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not both? Combining two of the greatest pleasures of mankind into one epic death!
bedroom_fascist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the way you think.
lllola ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:23:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christ.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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NDaveT ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:55:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately he's incapable of an erection because of the diabetes.
Has_No_Gimmick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one way to look at it.
Ap0Th3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:16:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooga booga!
chucksean7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't sugar in the 800s pretty much death
Has_No_Gimmick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I decided to google around for the highest blood sugar level ever recorded in a living human. I got this: http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/dteam/1997-07/d_0d_1xf.htm
Polar87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The day before admission to the hospital, he drank 12 liters of Coca-Cola, six cans of pineapple juice with sugar, several liters of orange juice, and sugared water. He attributed his thirst to hot weather.
Dear God
MandiSue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When your sugar is really high you get crazy thirsty (you also piss constantly). Your body is trying to dump the extra sugar, and one of the first ways is through the kidneys. So that volume of fluid doesn't shock me. Why he couldn't drink a glass of fucking water at all, however, I cannot explain.
chucksean7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus
dukeofcypress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had something very similar. DM patient with a long history of noncompliance, in for foot pain. She was 3 weeks post metatarsal amputation. Upon removal of the bandage the smell of anaerobes hit you like a truck. She had osteo and an A1C of 12%. Her sugars had been >500 the entire stay despite being on U-500 for several days. She was later found with the biggest soda I've ever seen in my life, brought in by her 16 year old, eldest daughter of 7.
Anarchyschild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been a type one for almost ten years, diagnosed at almost 900. Fortunately I wasn't in DKA (I don't really know how?) and I can tell you with a blood sugar that high you are literally starving. I was so hungry all the time even though I would eat everything in sight.
When you have that much ketones your body isn't getting any nourishment. Your body is urinating it all out and then using your fat and muscle stores to try and keep you going.
At that point, I would think he'd be a little out of it and brought food because he assumed there'd be a wait and he was crazy hungry.
Yes logic tells you "I shouldn't eat" but your body says "I'm so hungry and weak I feel like I might die", so it can be hard to not eat.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBF, if you have the latter, the former is sort of more likely.
DoctorRhinoceros ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Detroit story from one of my med school ED attendings who did his residency there. Pelvic exams in his ED were so common they'd line all the women up in a row of beds in the same room and just go from bed to bed assembly line style while the ladies were all just chit chatting with each other.
One lady complaining of pelvic pain was found to have a roll of cash and a crack pipe inside her vagina which she placed there to hide from her pimp, but forgot about. One of the female residents walked over to the lady and said "Ma'am, your vagina is not a purse" and handed the disgusting shit back to her.
duckface08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure noncompliance and lack of medical knowledge is a thing everywhere.
I'm an RN, not a doctor, but anyway...had a long-term patient once with a long list of chronic diseases, including wildly uncontrolled diabetes (and the most brittle diabetic I've seen to this day), chronic renal failure requiring dialysis, and sky high blood pressure. This is actually just the tip of the iceberg, but I want to keep this short. Anyway, she'd constantly complain of having nausea and refuse to eat the meals the hospital provided her. But then, I'd walk in later and find her eating potato chips and chocolate while washing it down with regular pop (not the diet kind). Oh, and she'd go through jars and jars of Cheeze Whiz even though she was lactose intolerant and C. diff positive (and no, she could not toilet herself).
Frustrating as fuck.
Biocidal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For those unaware, DKA stands for Diabetic Ketoacidosis, basically meaning the pH of the blood has become so acidic from hyperglycemia and chemicals called ketones. Basically results from non compliance with medication/treatment and is no joking matter.
im_from_detroit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can Confirm.
Source: Username
medschooldistraction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doing my residency here in Detroit. It's been a great experience but patient's compliance, access to health care and poor medical literacy has been extremely frustrating
lagueraloca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father in law is diabetic and eats extra sugary items saying he needs them because of his diabetes
bitlorrent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God bless Detroit Receiving.
Dewbacca9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have gone with Chicken Shack, Buddy's, Tubby's & Faygo personally.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Burger King salad and haribo sugar free gummies to wash the sugar out of his system! secret optimism
zephyer19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't blame Detroit. I have a nephew in New Mexico, pushing 400 pounds, Type II diabetes; his mother had it also, I don't think he knows what the word exercise means, eats everything and soda is a food group to him. Family has begged him to go to a weight specialist doctor. He went to some quack that told him to get a juicer machine. I figure I will bury him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even 120 is high HOLY SHIT
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
800? And conscious?
PineHand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a T1 diabetic; what sort of test kits do y'all have?? My meter (and every one I've had) gives a "too high to read" answer above 600(?) mg/dL
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We can do a metabolic panel to check blood sugars also
fritopie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk what it's like to be nauseas from your sugar being sky high, buuuut the last thing I want to do when I feel like puking/am puking is eat... wtf. And I'm a big time emotional/stress eater. Something else has got to be wrong there...
drunkenknight9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an emaciated patient somewhat recently whose glucose was in the 1200s... 7 years old and weighed only 17 kg and had a diaper on. Poor kid has a rough life ahead.
greffedufois ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By by feet!
Quackagate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair Detroit has been on the receiving end of a multi decade ass fucking from hell.Rangeing from there jobs, to health, education and houseing.
bexylee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow Just wow. Being a diabetic myself the last thing I'd wanna do when vomiting from DKA would be to eat gummy worms.. happened once in my 20 years of having the disease. Wouldn't wish it upon anyone! Idiot male
RaceHard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me did you say their glucose was at 800? My sisters freaks out if she hits 160+ like how does a human even survive 800?
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would noncompliance and lack of medical knowledge be ok with you? Why are you on the internet ridiculing patients instead of volunteering to educate? You know our city has the short end of the stick in education. People in mortal peril because of lack of education: It's not funny.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't doubt for a second there are some just really dumb people out there. But, not so much you, but lots of replies you got... You know, no one criticizes the Elephant Man for sleeping laying down. The desire to be normal is a powerful one, and as with anything some struggle more than others.
battlebunnybot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair neither anatomy nor basic medical knowledge is part of education in so many countries.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah fam he was chilling. ICU for a day on insulin drop and back home to eat fast food
usernumber36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume DKA stands for Donkey Kong Anemia
this-is-the-future ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno if we can all agree that adults should be responsible for taking care of themselves, then maybe people killing themselves faster isn't something we should be trying to prevent. Of course that this might (does?) increase medical costs in countries with universal health care is a bad thing.
_fairywren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. I have had DKA exactly once (I was travelling and not taking proper care of myself, obviously) and I seriously felt like I was dying. I don't think I ate for three or four days. The idea of eating anything, let alone candy, would have been unfathomable.
I have no idea what my BSL was in comparison - Australians use a different unit of measurement, but I'd say it was around 50mmols.
Mattzstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was diagnosed with diabetes my blood sugar was 700. I had no symptoms (that I knew of at the time) and just felt a little tired. My doctor called me and told me to go to the hospital immediately after results from labs came back that we had only taken because I was loosing weight unexpectedly. I had just drank a giant thing of sweet tea.
SpaderTanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has had many pancreas failures in the family I've come to terms that it's probably going to happen to me and did my research about diabetes (through experiences family has had and online about other things) and reading this story just made me feel disgusted that people won't research and properly take care of a disease they have...
BedtimeBurritos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So are food deserts.
Wallazabal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how your capitalist healthcare system works but is there any possibility that their insurance provider would refuse to fund treatment if they wilfully ignore medical advice?
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of our patients don't have insurance actually. Or they are on Medicare/Medicaid
spruce_sprucerton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, this is more about addiction than anything else. Wondering why some people won't stop eating bad food when it's clearly killing them is like wondering why an alcoholic won't stop drinking. How often does telling people the consequences of their actions actually help them break their addiction?
milltin123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a diabetic patient tell me the only thing she could eat was donuts without getting nauseous. She was only 30 with ulcers eating at both feet and bedridden.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL America uses different units to measure blood sugar (800 mg/dl = 44.44444 mmol/l). I was confused.
noodle-face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man i was in dka or very close around 330 when i was retarded and not a good diabetic. Not a fun night at the hospital.
declan_doesnt_know ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man I had a patient with diabetes, chf, hypertension, copd at 40 years old. Sugars were in the 300s, BP was 180/110, anemic. Just everything bad and when I go in to interview her she's eating take out Chinese, soy sauce all up in that bad boy, with an extra large coke
zerbey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lost a friend to this, the end results of untreated diabetes are very unpleasant. He lost his foot to it and the fingers of one hand. He couldn't walk because he was too weak. He was in so much pain he lived on morphine just to function. He died of heart failure waiting for a kidney transplant.
Listen to your Doctor when they tell you to treat your diabetes.
Letthepumpkincumflow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped eating my gummy worms after reading this, thanks.
CursesandMutterings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse here. I had a pt in DKA once whose glucose was in the 900s. I started her insulin drip and she asked me for a Pepsi.
You can't make this shit up.
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funniest is when they're like "can I get a sandwich? Im diabetic"
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know that a protein with a carb is what a diabetic should be snacking on, right?
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of patients use the excuse of diabetes to get food as soon as they get in the room
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know it's an excuse? Do you know their bg number? If they have waited for hours for a room, it's likely low - and they are doing the right thing. Or would you rather revive them?
Tkerst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their bg is checked in triage if they're diabetic, no matter what. You can see in the computer how long they've been waiting. If they look lethargic, a repeat can be done. We generally don't feed patients until blood work is done.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could it be because the disease literally CAUSES THIRST!?!?!?!?
CursesandMutterings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are most likely thinking of diabetes insupidus rather than diabetes mellitus. Diabetes insipidus is the one that's known for causing insane thirstiness/peeing all the time. Not saying it can't happen in diabetes mellitus, but it's not known for it.
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. DM's classic symptoms include excessive thirst. High blood sugar makes one super thirsty. Your body is trying to flush out the extra sugars. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/diabetes/in-depth/diabetes-symptoms/art-20044248
CursesandMutterings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I should have clarified what I meant. If diabetes mellitus is well-controlled, it shouldn't cause the excessive thirstiness/urination. Obviously, this young woman's was not.
She had been seen for the same thing multiple times in our ER, however, and has been admitted to our hospital a bunch of times for the same. In her case, it's definitely not lack of education on the topic, as we (her nurses) discuss it with her every time, as well as case management. It's really one of those situations where they know better, but just don't care. :(
supah_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok I see. Listen - It isn't necessarily true that she doesn't care. It could be denial. People with diabetes go through it. It's an invisible disease and it's possible to skate for a while with it. It could be depression. People with diabetes are more prone to it, I was never told this and suffered for years with daily panic attacks and avoiding tests. It's far more complicated than one might imagine. I was diagnosed at age 23. I didn't test but once a day for about 10 years. I would flinch every time i did a blood test. I had to come to terms with self-care drop my apprehension and ask for better from myself with the help of a compassionate doctor and getting treatment for anxiety/depression.
It seems like anyone would follow instructions and be fine, but there's a human being in the mix -which means - it's just not that simple.
tuki ยท 8966 points ยท Posted at 22:46:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient comes in at 2am for insomnia, clearly tweaking her brains out, heart rate 200. Can't sit still, bouncing off the walls. I suggest maybe easing up on the cocaine. "But doctor, I LOVE cocaine." K.
Cjpinto47 ยท 2811 points ยท Posted at 23:51:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine her pulling out a shit load of cocaine at the spot and just ramming it to her nose.
MrNature72 ยท 180 points ยท Posted at 00:20:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using a musket rammer.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 00:39:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just use a musket
shoot it up your nose
MagFrag5891 ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:26:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"shooting a musket but the black powder is mixed with cocaine and the ball is cocaine"
BeatsByK ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:48:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the musket is too
probablyhrenrai ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:51:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck it, just ram the whole musket up your nose.
SiegeLion1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This seems like a Cards Against Humanity card.
Wilhelm_III ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ouch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
say ramrod
oh__golly ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 00:39:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 7 hours "Draw this shit bc it's hilarious."
Edit: OP delivers! (a very shitty pair of five minute doodles)
Kuramiyuu ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:18:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I must see this drawing.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:30:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oh__golly ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:30:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Errybody reminding for 7hrs, thanks for giving me time to draw ๐
notyourmom7 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:37:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remind Me! 24 hours
jmerridew124 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remindme! 8 hours
naughtyputin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um, excuse me, I'm sorta new to Reddit, but how does this "Remindme" thing works?
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It just does. You Type RemindMe! 7 Hours and a bot will message you 7 hours from now to remind you. It really is that simple.
naughtyputin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Cool, thanks!
PlebasaurusRekt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:07:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I gotchu fam
maracusdesu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Xaebn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remind me 7 hours please deliver.
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's 7 hours until I start drawing, maybe more because work commitments ๐ฉ
Xaebn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my misunderstanding. I was reading it while walking into work.
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha all good! Just realised its an annoyed looking emoji on mobile, not what I was going for D:
Xaebn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:56:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If ya can please notify me when you post it, thanks!
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Posted :)
the_albino_alligator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 12 hours for the picture of coked out awesomeness
Stationjaguar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 16 hours
1337Dennis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 10 hours
uniptf ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:00:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/Shitty_Watercolour
/u/AWildSketchAppeared
oh__golly ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:03:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair theirs will be far superior
StuStutterKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you doing?! You might start another
battlesketch-off!uniptf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's never bad for us observers!
z3r0f14m3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of those is no longer an icon. Check /r/outoftheloop to find out more!
mrsswenke ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok I tried to check. I still don't know what you mean, would you please explain?
Moslanman ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! View this drawing, for reasons stated above.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PlebasaurusRekt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe!
Babbahaft ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:13:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this turned out so much better than expected, love it
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
TheGrayMerchant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 10 hours
cenadid911 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yay no bamboozles
bobtheavenger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! Will OP deliver awesomeness?
Thorn_Bird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! Cocaine pic
oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now to delete my comment, so you will have the confuse.
Thorn_Bird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:24:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the first 'RemindMe' I've ever done so I figured I needed some description there :)
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed! I do like to set reminders as far into the future as possible on Discord though that just say "Do the thing".
headroom3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remindme! 25 hours
figlatte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 10 hours "View this drawing"
Cjjt71200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 24 hours
ojibwabirdpole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 10 hours
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 7 hours
my_poop_is_green ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe!
dolphinesque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 10 hours
espercharm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 12 hours
False798 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 12 hours
cenadid911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 3 hours "refer to parent comment"
aesthe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 20 hours. Cool beans
_twinsizemattress__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 12 hours
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice
ParadoxPhobia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!RemindMe 7 hours
Cjpinto47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do I have to say remindMe or what?
Really want to see this.
ParadoxPhobia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I got a pm from the bot so I assume what I did was the correct syntax.
Cjpinto47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 6 hours
Thanks!
Cjpinto47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 6 hours
Thanks!
l3ananaStand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 12 hours
jewzburnwell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remindme! 24 hours did op draw that picture?
DrumhellerRAW ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pam from Archer :)
portage ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:53:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Cokie monster.
oz6702 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sniff Why can't I slOHMYGODTHISSHITISGOOD
eskaza ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:50:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I too thought of El Cunado
Toto_Swank1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:17:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmaoo, not even trying to snort it, just packing it up in there while trying to maintain the conversation.
imnotdonking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This type of patient was likely smoking their cocaine (AKA crack)
RobieFLASH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Can i haz some too?"
-doctor
cleeder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cocaine whipped cream, cocaine frozen yogurt, cocaine pudding...
maracusdesu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine her cutting a a small hole in the bag and then trying to ram the whole thing into her nose while breathing heavily.
QuickChicko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get the funnel!
[deleted] ยท 1715 points ยท Posted at 00:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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LexicanLuthor ยท 1887 points ยท Posted at 00:23:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
kind of funny to me that normal people on adderall react like ADHD people unmedicated.
aDickBurningRadiator ยท 493 points ยท Posted at 01:01:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they're amphetamines, thats exactly what they were made to do for decades before someone realized they had the opposite effect on naturally hyperactive people.
Edit: guys im using a gross oversimplification as an example, stop trying to explain to me how it "actually" works.
Z0di ยท 289 points ยท Posted at 01:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
then explain why I'm a lazy sack of shit who is a focused lazy sack of shit when on adderall?
(i have adhd)
theartlessdawkins ยท 187 points ยท Posted at 01:48:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medication giving you the ability to focus does not automatically also give you the will to do so productively. Medicine has yet to solve that one, barring application of one heavy boot, PR, PRN.
Z0di ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:52:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There needs to be a pill for that. maybe we can put cocaine in pill form?
ConcernedEarthling ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 02:20:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, and pills in cocaine form.
octopus_from_space ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just crush them and snort away.
kumiosh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:33:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crush them, put them in a capsule and swallow it. Pill -> Snortable -> pill.
raethen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called being 16 and having a years worth of quick release Ritalin.
Bad decisions were made. Thankfully nothing bad happened to me. Scare myself now just thinking about the dumb shit I did then.
PurpleAntifreeze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called Wellbutrin yo.
madsci ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:22:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wellbutrin was awful. It was all "side effect of the day" and no upside.
Strattera worked great, for a while. It was the first thing my doctor put me on and I came in to work and spent probably a minute just starting at my hand on my desk because I could. I could sit there for a full minute without fidgeting or having my mind wander. It was like living next to a construction site and then all of the equipment shuts off at once and it's perfectly quiet.
ehco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My God. I would do anything for that. My family hates me because I'm constntly jiggling my legs (which mkes the floor/table/couch rock) and my friends hate watching anything with me because I have to get up and walk out of the room to smoke/get a drink of water/put my empty glass back/pat the dog etc etc. every 20 minutes without fail. I tell them not to pause the movie /show but they always do.
It's hell at work and I constantly have terrible imposter syndrome because I find it very hard to get into flow state - and computer programming has lots of stops and starts.
Yet I've never been diagnosed with ADHD because I'm worried my doctor will just think I'm drug-seeking if I ask about it.
madsci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See your doctor. There are non-stimulant options that really don't invite abuse. Strattera is one of them, and my doctor started me on that one because I already had a tic disorder and he didn't want to risk making it worse with stimulants. (Seems to actually be better now, or at least I don't notice it as much.) Wellbutrin is another but it didn't really work for me.
It was a pain to get my insurance company to approve it, because Ritalin is super cheap compared to Strattera. But as my doctor put it, it's a blunt instrument and it's not good for everyone. I hated it.
It's been so long that I can't remember all of the side effects I had with Strattera. Burning ejaculation was one of them. 'Decoupling of orgasm and ejaculation' was how the literature put another. When I went looking for support groups online, what I found was that the vast majority of the people there were not patients themselves - they were there about their juvenile children. I guarantee most teenagers aren't going to report side effects like that to their parents, so keep that in mind when researching options as an adult. I'd probably have stuck with it anyway if it had kept being as effective as it had at the start. As it turned out, my job situation changed and being self-employed full time gave me more ability to find other ways to manage my ADD.
Now it's changed again. I'm a programmer too, but my company has grown and there are days when I literally cannot go more than 10 minutes without an interruption for 8 hours or more. Adderall is sometimes counter-productive on those days. I can get into the flow state easier, but shifting gears is jarring and it can make me super irritable. My employees have come to expect a string of obscenities out of me every time my office phone rings.
So keep in mind that you'll still need to work on external factors, too. The drugs don't magically fix everything, but they can certainly help. When I can work after hours with no interruptions, I can get into the zone in a way I haven't since I was a teenager and programming on a C-128 or a 386 late into the night.
My family definitely notices the difference, too. The pen I carry in my pocket probably hasn't been disassembled and reassembled in months. When I first started Strattera, my girlfriend at the time kept thinking she had something on her face that I was staring at - because I was maintaining eye contact.
See if you can start on one of the non-stimulants. The stimulants don't have to be that bad, but I did have to switch to decaf.
ehco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks so much for the detailed reply - I think I'll take the leap and bring it up to my doctor. In im Australia so the cost factor of prescriptions is minimal ($6 for a month of my anti deps citalopram and $25 for my sleeping pills zopiclone which is the most expensive script I've ever had)
Sheesh 'Decoupling of orgasm and ejaculation' that sounds terrible lol! I'm a woman & I'll check out the side effects closely anyway - but if something works I'll probably put up with a fair few side effects because this affects my job so badly (and my perception of how competent (read: incompetent) I am at my job which causes me a massive amount of stress)
I've managed my 'hyperactivity' solely without drugs so far so I'm just hoping they might make things a bit easier sometimes, I know hoping for a silver bullet is just wishful thinking, but I did go until 30 years old before I 'gave in' and tried antidepressants (I was brought up in a family which frowns upon the 'non-wholesomeness' of medication - especially on-going medication) and now I kick myself that I didn't try them earlier since they do so well for me and I don't seem to have any side effects - all of a sudden it was like 'wow! so this is how everyone else feels all the time! No wonder it doesn't seem such a monumental effort for them like it feels for me!' and I no longer have frequent suicidal rumination. I went my entire 20s trying cognitive behavioural therapy etc etc to mange my depression, convinced it was just a matter of willpower and I was just a lazy, ungrateful sod...sheesh.
madsci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:47 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, don't underestimate what a minor variation in brain chemistry can do.
Strattera didn't cost me any more out of pocket than my usual copay, but the insurance company pays more for it and they like to steer doctors toward things like Ritalin that aren't covered by patents anymore and have cheap generics on the market. Not sure how it works down there.
I'll throw in one more warning, that hopefully won't matter so much if you're working for someone else - Adderall seems to extend my reach as much as my grasp. I found myself willing to tackle a new architecture and new development tools and I significantly expanded the scope of some of my projects.
Since there are no externally-imposed boundaries on what exactly my job is, it's easy for me to reach a point where there are just not enough hours in the day to do everything. I worked more than 80 hours over the week of Christmas and felt like I barely made any progress. I have to say 'no' to customers more and I have to very consciously narrow the scope of what I'm working on or I'll keep slipping delivery dates despite the increased productivity.
ANinjaChiken ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I am on Adderall and Wellbutrin. Still a lazy sack of shit. I have ADHD.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:34:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Focus has nothing to do with motivation. Taking the Adderall, you might be able to sit still through homework for example, but you still have to make the choice to get up and start on it.
You are naturally going to struggle with motivation. ADHD has prevented you from reliably being able to focus on necessary tasks. You're behind right now, but if you can just manage to start (even if you quit in 5 minutes) everyday, you'll find it easier to sit down. That 5 minutes will become ten minutes eventually, until you can just decide to do whatever you need to.
I take Adderall for ADHD as well, and considering talking to my psychiatrist about Wellbutrin (For some reason Depression hasn't killed my sex drive, and Wellbutrin should preserve that hehe).
ANinjaChiken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck with your sex drive when you first start taking Welbutrin. For the first three weeks to a month, the thought of sex barely even crossed my mind. It was an odd time for me then. I'm currently taking 30mg Adderall, 300mg Welbutrin. Depression is still there, but all of the negative thoughts and feelings have faded. I definitely recommend talking to your psychiatrist about it if you're depressed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kinda in a weird spot, so I don't know really. I can't say I'm sad, because I'm generally emotionally numb except for circumstances I can count on two hands. My daily state is merely neutral, or I guess you could say binary between liking a thing or not.
I have to compare myself behaviorally, and that last sentence hints at my biggest "wtf is going on" for considering it. I've always procrastinated on things like work, but it's like I'm procrastinating with fun stuff too. I still enjoy hobbies if I can pull a miracle out of my ass and sit down to start. It's just that I'll wake up and think "I want to play some Disc Golf today, or go play some video games", except... I just won't. Internally I'm telling myself to go do something, but my hand just keeps scrolling through the same 10 websites or Youtube I browse everyday.
ANinjaChiken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depression affects people differently. I was like you for the majority of my life. Totally neutral about everything because I repressed all my emotions. Somewhere along the way my brain decided it was better to feel nothing than to feel sad.
A huge indication of depression is loss of interest in things that make you happy. I play video games all the time, but I knew when I replaced my gaming with sleeping and crying that I was depressed.
I broke up with my girlfriend because I thought she could do better. I lost my job because I wasn't really motivated to do well. Ended up in a psych ward for a little over a week. It was a bad time, but I also see it as necessary now. The experience I had there was a life changing experience. I met some really interesting people, and heard other people's stories.
I'm currently trying to rebuild my life, and welbutrin is definitely making it a lot easier for me. Sorry for the wall of text.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:10 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That really sucks man, I hope it gets better.
It's hard to describe in my case. I'm still interested in playing video games or fun stuff, and still enjoy them. I just cant make myself do these things anymore, at an increasing rate. It's like my brain wants these things, but my body is avoiding them. I can't make myself click that icon for a game, even when I'm at the computer. Hell, I wanted to play Pathologic last night, but ended up spending 8 hours browsing the damn Final Fantasy wiki for whatever reason.
As for emotions, they're aren't something I've tried to suppress. They have just been extremely intermittent from day one. For example, we've both experienced the feeling of being inadequate towards a wife/girlfriend. My wife is right there, and with certainty she could do better than a lazy shit like me. Thinking that or "You're beve going to be successful if you don't do X" is the same as "I need to brush my teeth". If anything, I'm upset that I don't feel upset about negative internal thoughts.
sairyn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Made me stutter. Couldn't stand it.
StuStutterKing ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I already stutter, but quite a few ADHD meds make me silently echo my words. Like, I'd mouth the words I just said.
It got weird when I started mouthing my stutters
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that's echolalia. One of my friends had it naturally - he would say the last few words of your sentence a millisecond after you did - I never thought too much of it - I just figured it was his brain skipping to the end of what I said to more efficiently queue up what his response would be... I was a bit weird /over-analysing conversations etc too so it never worried me.
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:23:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I took Wellbutrin once.
An hour later, I was lying on the floor, babbling stream-of-consciousness anxiety thoughts to my caregiver.
spudthefish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:17:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aka bath salts
Edit: but seriously, it's pretty much legal bath salts.
Egrizzzzz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:19:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that least makes me feel better about my terrible, mind garbling reaction, I guess.
spudthefish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's sorta crazy to me that it's used so much. It has a ton of abuse potential. And it's easy to OD on, especially with the sustained release dosage forms. If you're curious compare it's structure to that of methcathinone, tons of structure activity similarity.
Isitablackholeor6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am confused are you trying to say that wellburtin is a cocaine analog? Like the snri anti depressant? Because a true cocaine analog is ritalin. If you google ritalin it comes up as a cocaine analog used to treat adhd bla bla bla.
Edit : well I'll be damned although a better bet is definitely ritalin/focalin for that cocaine like feel
spudthefish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:34:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, I had just pursued the tangent about it being similar to bath salts. As far as analogues go, it does have similarities to amphetamines, but it has a specific similarity to bath salts(the street name for the drugs). Wellbutrin is mainly used in depression for the most part.
Isitablackholeor6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What exactly is bath salts? Flakka aka a-pvp right? Or just a general term for research chemicals?
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get chemically pure methamphetamine pills with a doctor's prescription.
They're very tightly regulated for obvious reasons.
atomicthumbs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I hire a dominatrix to help me get my homework done, and will Kaiser cover it?
madsci ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 04:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It helps a great deal with my focus, but it doesn't necessarily help me get started. Someone taught me a trick that works pretty well most days - don't set out to do hours of work. Just settle for 5 minutes of whatever it is. It's easier to get started when you're only committing to 5 minutes, but (at least for me) that's usually plenty of time for me to get focused on what I'm supposed to be doing. The next hour is easier than those first 30 seconds.
GenieBus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:53:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do this too. It is so helpful.
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hella yes. This is the ONLY way I get anything done. Even like, having a shower.
madsci ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I go a step beyond that, like when I kind of space out in the morning with my shoes half tied - I have to pretend like I'm a meat puppet and someone else is pulling the strings and making my body move. Only really works with mechanical stuff that doesn't require a lot of thought, but it still helps get me moving.
ehco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've found talking to myself as another person can help too - it's easier to tell someone else what to do than take your own advice (when you have no willpower like me) so I find talking to myself like a kid like "Now we're going to have breakfast" is stacks easier to follow kind of on autopilot, wheras left to my own devices I'll be distracted by some bullshit until i'm going to be late for work, then cursing myself cos I didn't even get my shit together enough to eat breakfast etc. Also great for talking myself down from panic-y states, breaking everything into baby steps and guiding myself though like I was helping someone else. Kind of fucked up I am happy to treat someone else nicely but can't treat myself nicely automatically/'as myself'
Uhohpitmyshants ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:25:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was diagnosed with ADHD and then depression. Treated for it for over 12 years, never really helped me be less lazy or anything. A few months ago, new doctor was like "hey, so you actually just have bipolar II..." The inability to pay attention and periods of hyperactivity were really just hypomania, and the ADHD medications sometimes made it even worse. So there's the possibility of misdiagnosis.
Notethreader ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the opposite happen. Was diagnosed with BP but the meds were constantly making me feel terrible. Few years down the line I get a new therapist who digs a bit deeper. Now I've been on ADHD meds for almost a year and have been the most productive and happiest that I can remember since childhood.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:44:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm adhd and bipolar 2. Shits fun. Was diagnosed with bp first and the psychriatrist said they think I had adhd comorbid with BP blah blah blah. Sometimes the meds work sometimes they dont.
Dutchonaut ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
one of my best friends has that diagnosis and he's one of the most beautiful, intelligent and genius creatures that graces this earth. The way he explains to me in how the emotional gravitas of everything is a constant cycle of happiness, excitement and depression. He calls it being beautifully tragic. Beats having ADHD and APD from his perspective so..
C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We fill for a LOT of amphetamines at my pharmacy, we run out almost every month. A lot of doctors are way too quick to label anything and everything ADHD nowadays.
spockspeare ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also, tweakers are really good at finding ways to drain pharmacies
C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe really lax pharmacies, my manager is a huge stickler about that kind of thing and so we're kept pretty airtight. The bigger problem is that parents take their kids in for normal kid energy, the doc calls it ADHD, and they throw around stimulants like candy. I imagine most of our fills that end up abused are due to college students, not tweakers. Heroin is our drug of choice around here anyway, so people try to get opioids out of us with fake scripts,early fills, etc way more than stimulants. The problem is the doctors want to prescribe a lot more of them than the DEA allows us.
spockspeare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying the tweakers are gaming the pharmacy directly. I'm saying they're gaming doctors to game the pharmacy. Because doctors don't talk to each other. Because the medical-records system for prescriptions is a bunch of scribbles on notepaper that get thrown away immediately. It's built to be abused.
C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not quite that simple. Even if doctors don't talk to eachother, pharmacies do. The government tracks every controlled substance fill via SSN. If I'm in Florida and you try to fill your Vyvanse with me, I'm going to run a report through the government that will tell me when and where you got any controlled substance. If you filled another Vyvanse in Alasks 3 days ago at a different chain and then flew over here to try to get another filled, we will see that and refuse or confiscate the script (and likely inform the doctor). The same thing happens multiple times every month. Pt is on one pain med from doctor A, and they get another pain med from doctor B. We call doctor B to see if he was aware that the pt was already getting another med from a different doctor. If he wasn't, they usually ask us to shred it and refer the pt back to doctor A. If they are aware and want it filled, then it's their call and we will fill it, although we will keep an eye on that doctor to make sure he isn't gaming the system (2 have, in my area in the last couple years) at which point we contact the boards of Pharmacy and Medicine and they revoke their DEA number or license to practice if they find it necessary.
spockspeare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL. Explains why everything takes an hour at the pharmacy now.
C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's more likely just the store. Our volume has been increasing but our corporate overlords think that more sales = fewer people needed for whatever reason, so they cut our hours. Then new people get hired but they rarely last more than a month or two because the job sucks and pays shit, so we're short again. It's a fucking mess. At my store 2 hour waits during the week and 3 hours on weekends are fairly common now.
spockspeare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta sell those gummy bears and eyeglass lanyards somehow...
Lohikaarme27 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:22:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way Adderall, amphetamines and even caffeine work is that they raise your dopamine levels. If your dopamine level is too high or too low you become hyper, jittery, lose focus... . People with ADHD have naturally low dopamine levels so the amphetamine or whatever just raise the dopamine to a normal level so that they can focus and not bounce all over the place. I'm people without ADHD, it raises it above normal levels and they become hyper. The only difference really between caffeine and amphetamines is that the amphetamines are much stronger. I've got ADHD too and I can have like 4 cups of coffee and be the same or better than I was before.
MrAndersson ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:19:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One unexpectedly accurate ADHD/ADD 'marker' is that coffe/caffeine either makes no difference, or makes it easier to get to sleep. I was always so confused why people could not sleep after coffe, as I preferred a cup right before bed. Turned out I had ADHD- PI, and even 10mg of Ritalin barely affects how easy it's to fall asleep. My doctor was a bit surprised by the fact I could oversleep after taking a Ritalin tablet in the morning, only believed it after I got my then wife to vouch for me. My brain is apparently a bit unusual.
ITchick2014 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:43:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just an anecdote here...I was originally diagnosed with ADHD-C at age 30 but recently was diagnosed with idiopathic hypersomnia (sleep disorder). You would be surprised how many sleep disorder symptoms overlap with ADHD. (Check sleep apnea for instance). I am still unsure now whether I have ADHD or both ADHD and IH lol. If you have sleep habits that seem irregular or seem sleepier than those around you...it is definitely something to look into.
herrschmetterling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:59:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. When I started taking adderall for my ADHD my chronic insomnia/constant sleepiness/just general shit sleep I'd suffered with for decades just...magically stopped. It was the best thing that ever happened to me, half because I slept a normal amount and felt fucking fantastic, and half because I felt vindicated after years of people telling me my problems were because of my lack of "sleep hygiene."
circuital14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sleep hygiene? I cant even imagine what that is... brushing teeth before hand?
herrschmetterling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Going to bed at the same time and waking up at the same time every day. No electronics before bed. That kind of stuff.
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any creative outlets? Do you paint or write or anything like that? My doctor thinks Adderall could help me - I'm like y'all, monster sleep issues, untested but strongly suspected ADD - but I've heard people say that while it helps with calm and sleep and focus, it dulls or inhibits creativity. My daughter, who's on Concerta, says the same. So I've been reluctant to try it.
herrschmetterling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm creative for a living. It's basically all I do. I didn't notice my creativity was dulled, but, to be completely honest, I wasn't on adderall for very long, because I lost my insurance soon after I started taking it.
MrAndersson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I most likely have (additional?) sleep related issues. One I've just now figured out after a couple years on Ritalin is that my ideal sleep phase is from 10 in the evening to around 4 in the morning, which isn't always compatible with family life, or a normal social life for that matter. The window of time in the where I could reliably fall asleep were also very short, before I started my medication through which I also learned to practice a kind of meditation the time window was simply too short. Practicing meditation without Ritalin was almost impossible, but after learning it I can use it to fall asleep unless I'm far too tired/stressed.
Thanks for the advice, mine is to practice a meditation 'light' where the only real goal is to be and feel without thinking too much. It helped me radically cut down on the hours laying in bed unable to sleep, and dreading the effects of it. Being able to just rest without having to sleep first cut down on the stress, and then it helped me start falling asleep much quicker.
ITchick2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have used meditation to help. My sleep issue is quite the opposite of what you describe though. Even while on stimulants like Concerta or Adderall I am able to fall asleep very quickly (5.3 minutes was my Average during my sleep study). I felt the need to sleep so much that I was sleeping 14-18 hours every day. It wasn't always so severe but recently I got fed up and had the sleep test done. Very glad I did haha.
thecalmingcollection ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:21 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So ADHD runs super hard in my family but I'm a girl so naturally all of my symptoms were dismissed because girls display it differently. I grew up never being allowed to have dark pop or coffee so by the time I got to high school I was caffeine naive. In like a year, I went from a Coke Zero allowing me to focus, to trying to drink 3-4 monsters a day to be productive. When I finally got to see a psychiatrist she was like "well now you can save money by not buying all those energy drinks!"
My boyfriend is also ADHD. He drinks 9-10 coffees a day. He pours himself a large cup of coffee right before bedtime every night.
thesuper88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was recently diagnosed with adhd officially and have started taking Adderall and I no longer need so much caffeine to feel normal. My younger brother, who is VERY much like me physically and mentally, also may have it (he exhibits behavior patterns that I share). We both used to drink a can of pop before bed. I would brush my teeth after. It would help him so much that he'd fall asleep with it on his hand. If he didn't do this bed be up til 4am.
TropicalPriest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could this be why MDMA hardly has any impact on me at all?
meradorm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:08:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if I have ADHD (I was diagnosed with autism as a kid so I know my brain works a little funny in some way or another) but the one time I took ecstasy I locked myself in my room and spent a few hours doing physics homework. Didn't feel any emotion, didn't want to listen to music or be around people, I felt normal except my head was unusually clear. (I could tell it was working because I was flushed and sweaty, though.) I could concentrate so much better and I wanted to take advantage of it. I was weeks behind on my homework.
I brought it up with a couple of shrinks but it turns out that "I want to use you to get my insurance to pay for a controlled substance that works exactly like the recreational drug I just took" isn't a convincing way to ask to be screened for ADHD.
Notethreader ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:39:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, could be... Although MDMA also effects serotonin and norepinephrine. So while you may be resistant to the dopamine release, the other two can still overload you. I've got ADHD and MDD so I tend to be extremely resistant to the lows after a roll. Unlike most people, I don't plunge. I just return to my natural low levels.
himit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I'm ADHD too, and when I had ecstasy I got all the happy feelings and the emotional clarity but none of the FUCK YEAH LET'S DANCE that my friends did.
Notethreader ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Serotonin was boosted while everything else was coming into normal range. I only get the danciness if I've taken my vyvanse that day... Or more Molly.
Sir_Steven3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you taking any antidepressants?
TropicalPriest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not any time that i've done M, but i'm on anxiety medication (Paxil) and it also helps manage my adhd symptoms
Sir_Steven3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Paxil could be the problem
TropicalPriest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't done mdma since going on the medication
Flamesparrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine was concerned about sleep disruption too before my boyfriend assured him that I could sleep on any dosage.
ChompyGator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the same way. I can take my 30mg Adderall and go right to bed. Sleep really well too, no mind wandering all over the place. =)
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That explains so much! I have ADHD and I usually get incredibly sleepy 30-45 minutes after drinking caffeinated soda, but I always figured it was a sugar crash.
kippy3267 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:06:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've gotta disagree with you there. Amphetamines are not the same as caffine just "stronger".
atomicthumbs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:29:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're both stimulants, so yes it is?
thecalmingcollection ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:21 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except they work on completely different receptors
TheLeapIsALie ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 01:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(ELI5) You normally don't excrete enough dopamine. This makes it hard for your brain to motivate you, and reward you for staying on topic. Adderall makes your Dopamine Reuptake Transporters (DAT) work in reverse, spitting dopamine out of neurons instead of sucking it in. Now it's easier to keep you focused.
XenoFractal ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 01:50:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(ELI5 for an actual five year old) Your body normally doesn't make enough happiness. This makes it hard for your brain to motivate you, and reward you for staying on topic. Adderall makes your body make more happiness so instead of the happiness being used up in other parts now its in the brain. Now it's easier to keep you focused.
MyPasswordIsNotTacos ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 02:48:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your 5 year old just died of an OD trying to get happy. Call it "brain chemical" or something at least!
XenoFractal ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:18:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I considered happy drug but that woulda made it worse I think
NSNick ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:17:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water for the happy boats to travel in? When the lake's dry, the happy boats can't travel between neuron islands, but if there's too much water it floods.
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then you decide it makes perfect sense to drive to Alaska without your cell phone
thesuper88 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:53:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone's body makes its own little stickers that it gives your brain when it does a good job. Your body doesn't make enough stickers, so sometimes your brain doesn't pay attention because it knows it won't get a sticker anyway. This medicine makes your sticker factory work faster so your brain will keep doing what it's supposed to!
rhythmic_disarray ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:10:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this analogy is my favorite I've heard so far. And now makes me want to have a sticker chart as an adult. Wait. Actually maybe I will.
rhythmic_disarray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this makes me sad in a cute lil way.
XenoFractal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:)
Wafflebringer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does this mean it will help with depression?
XenoFractal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
Wafflebringer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Well there goes my suggestion.
XenoFractal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whats that?
Wafflebringer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thought maybe it would help my friend. shes depressed and caffeine doesnt affect her so I thought maybe adderal would do something. the caffeine bothers me more. Caffeine immunity....
XenoFractal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should note I am not a medical expert and your friend should see a medical professional
XenoFractal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not an experienced medical worker and your friend should see a medical professional
Wafflebringer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she is. But not about the caffeine. just the depression.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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hayward52 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:28:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am diagnosed with MDD as well, and I currently take Adderall (been on it for a year or so, and am just turning 19) and I honestly believe it does help with the depression.
coolerdog ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:00:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a good chance you might have ADHD, then. I was depressed for years (still kind of am but not NEARLY as bad) and we couldn't figure out why meds weren't helping. Welbutrin helped. Welbutrin is also used to treat ADHD. Tried Ritalin and now magically I can do things other people can do and no longer feel worthless and stupid! Turns out I have severe ADHD. Treat the cause, not the symptom. Works a lot better.
hayward52 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:46:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mhmm, I've been diagnosed with both and I take the medication strictly for ADHD, but I've come to notice it nullifies the crippling depression (at times), but then again, that's just my own personal input, friend! :)
Klowned ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:59:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, Adderall can help with depression. It causes the happy chemicals to be released and kept in rotation longer.
rested_green ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also diagnosed, it used to work wonders on both my depression and add. Been about 6 months without SSRIs or Adderall, and it still sucks.
MyLouBear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:37:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stimulants can be prescribed to boost antidepressants. They help the effectiveness of my antidepressant greatly during mdd episodes.
TheLeapIsALie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hard to say (also, IANAD of any kind, just did a lot of neuro research and courses in undergrad for... fun?). For what it's worth, many people love the feel regardless of neurotypicality.
Notethreader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have ADHD and I don't necessarily love the feeling the meds give me. It's more that I like that I am able to focus on starting and completing tasks much easier. I don't really derive pleasure from the feeling of the drug itself. Hell, most the time I don't even notice the effects.
So, my guess is that you love the feeling because that's what amphetamines do; make you feel great and love them. Unless you have ADHD. Then they just make you feel normal.
one_armed_herdazian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would not suggest taking an illegal drug because it feels good. That's a bad road to go down. Maybe talk to your doctor about it?
NewBrainTrust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pal, I don't. I did once, in college, and was curious about whether its effect was linked to my health condition. thanks for the advice, though.
Year3030 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks professor! What's another word for pirate treasure?!
TheLeapIsALie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:02:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Booty!
hayward52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Argh, matey! Beat me to it.
TheLeapIsALie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, you can still beat your meat!
untide ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can have adhd without the hyperactivity. Talk to your doctor about it and they will be able to give you more accurate info.
kippy3267 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:07:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theres adhd inattentive, hyperactive, or combined.
MrAndersson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:24:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called ADD in some countries and older literature, ADHD-PI otherwise. Appears to be a more common presentation among women/girls.
Przedrzag ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:16:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that is just ADD
Edit: Just checked. It's a terminology thing. H was added in 1987.
atomicthumbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not actually a thing.
benediktkr ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:53:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well what do you expect? The meds help you focus --- what you do with it is up to you.
MyLouBear ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:33:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you have add - without the h. You can have attention deficit without the hyperactivity. ADD is more commonly found in girls with attention issues. These kids tend to fall through the cracks more often, because their lack of focus (inattentive type)is a lot less noticeable.
KinseyH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:58:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Confirmed. Daughter started treatment for ADD in 3rd grade (6 years ago) and it changed her life for the better. Wish they'd had it in the 60s and 70s and 80s when my dad was yelling at me to "get my head in the game" and "stop daydreaming" and "pay attention goddammit." (Sweet man, really, but never had an issue with focus and attention and didn't understand it.)
My doctor thinks I should get tested and maybe get treated for it myself. But I already take so many bloody pills, thinking about it just exhausts me.
Z0di ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but I'm a guy, so...
MyLouBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just meant it's more common for girls to have the inattentive type, not that it's impossible for a boy to. My own son has ADD, with zero hyperactivity.
furriosa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:44:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have ADHD. Laziness = unmotivated to do what other people want you to do. Meds give you concentration to focus on what you want to do.
Z0di ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
marijuana also works
Folderpirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You answered your own question.
Hekidayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calling yourself that is really not helping our cause man...
SleepyFarady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because there's two different types, ADD and ADHD. ADD is the off-with-the-fairies type, and ADHD is the hyperactive type. Ritalin/Adderrall picks up the ADD types, but calms down the ADHD types. Source: am the ADD type.
garlicdeath ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you're just a lazy sack of shit. Sounds like a personal problem.
Z0di ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thanks
Crioca ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't though, I have ADHD and take amphetamines. The way it works for me (I realize my experience is not universal) is that the high is just enough that I don't get bored when focusing on stuff, so I'm not as fidgety/active.
If I take a stronger dose for recreational purposes, yeah I'll be bouncing around and stuff as well.
Zhang5 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:03:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what he's describing. And yes, overdosing starts to make even ADHD people get fidgety - you're just making your body go into overdrive at a certain point. I know I've been there before when adjusting dosages.
Bonus info for all you ADHD kids out there: Be careful about taking your meds with food. Acidic food like OJ with your breakfast will make it's absorption less effective. I used to take mine with a tall glass of OJ before the doctor cleared that up.
damnisuckatreddit ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 03:30:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Extra bonus: If you take it with something basic like an antacid you will get fuuuuuucked up.
BOT_Waterfall ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:55:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
damnisuckatreddit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:10:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be careful man. When I say fucked up I mean you will feel like the world's stuck at 4x ffwd and your heart's about to bust out your chest and do a tap routine.
Zhang5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:24:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeaaah. Could you maybe edit your other post and recommend people not do that? It's not really a good idea yet there's a post built off of yours encouraging something that sounds really dumb to me.
damnisuckatreddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, at risk of sounding callous, anyone dumb enough to fuck around like that without proper research really deserves what they get. Amphetamines are safe enough that the chances of anyone causing themselves lasting harm are low, so folks of that bent are probably better off learning their lesson now by tweaking themselves into a panic attack rather than potentially doing this kind of stupid experimental horseshit with more dangerous drugs later on. And saying it's a bad time is hardly gonna stop em anyways if they've got it in their head to try.
Also I super hate editing comments so there's that too.
Zhang5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All fair enough!
obamaneborrabratwurs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:25 on April 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I may or may not be on a shit ton of adderall right now....and that's how I feel. I might have a slight problem
BOT_Waterfall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate it! I take it daily already. I just want to experiment and see if what you guys said is true!
Zhang5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd recommend against it dude. If you already take Adderall or some other amphetamine - you're already going to have experienced the best effects. Increasing the effect doesn't really get better. You'll likely feel sick, your muscles will twitch and ache, your heart will race and head will pound, and it is just generally no fun.
BOT_Waterfall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't wanna do it to get fucked up or anything, I just wanna see if it's true about the acidic and basic things altering the affects. Sometimes I notice I don't have the same affects as I did the day before. I'm wondering if it has to do with what I ate that morning! It's just a lil science experiment for me. Thank you for the advice though! I'll keep it in mind :)
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mhm, makes sense! Just play it safe; you'll see myself and others in the thread have described some of the more unpleasant effects of a too-heavy dosage.
And hey maybe try going the other direction with acidic food first? You can do it on a day you're not in class or need to be attentive.
BOT_Waterfall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'll try that! I know how too heavy of a dose is, before I got my script and started taking it as prescribed I would take adderall out the wazoo. I remember one day I took some because I thought work would be too draining. Then I took another on my break. Then another. I had taken WAYY more than my body was used to, and I was up for almost 48 hours, the side effects werent too bad though. Thank you for your input though :)
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've definitely got more experience than I. Keep being you! Stay safe out there. :3
Zhang5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if 5 hour energy is acidic or basic but the one time I took my morning dose with one of those bad-boys due to pulling an all-nighter... hoo not fun not fun. Felt like my heart was gonna explode, trembling limbs, vision blurry. Had to go walk it off. 0/10 would not recommend playing with amphetamines, kids.
kippy3267 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something in 5 hour energy just fucks it all up. No cognitive enhancement, bunch of shitty side effects, I dunno. But I've learned
KickMeElmo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:03:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learned that the hard way before I switched meds. Had a lovely Christmas eve twitching in bed all day unable to stop trying to use all my muscles simultaneously. Not fun.
kippy3267 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:09:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tea spoon of baking soda in 8 oz of warm water, mix well, drink, wait 5-10 mins and then take a pill. Warning: you'll fucking tweak your brains out and the crash is horrid. But you'll get fucked up alright
thesuper88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like after only 10mg of Adderall?
damnisuckatreddit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:30:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. As I understand it, when they set the dosage for orally ingested medications they're usually accounting for a certain portion of active ingredient being lost to digestive processes. So if you fuck with the digestive process (in this case by altering the pH of your stomach) you'll end up absorbing way more drug into your blood than was meant to be possible. A 10 mg pill could end up having the relative effects of a tablet many times that dosage. The downside is it'll likely be a harsh, unstable, unpredictable effect that'll wear off with a crash like a brick wall.
kippy3267 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:06:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harsh, unstable, brickwal, yep you got it bud!
ShamrockShart ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:28:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A mere teaspoon of baking soda is enough to alter the pH of a stomach?
damnisuckatreddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:24:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup! Most people only have like 50ml of acid in there. Neutralization reaction between HCl and NaHCO3 means every acid molecule destroyed produces H2O and CO2 (plus NaCl) which further dilutes concentration of any HCl left over.
dbbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It actually has more to do with the pH of urine and the body's ability to excrete it than how much is absorbed by the GI tract.
Big_D_Squirrels ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:12:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That explains the first time I tried Adderall. I sat by my parent's pool and just stared at the pretty colours for hours
Makeshiftjoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:30:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How so?
KickMeElmo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:04:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5myrvl/doctors_of_reddit_what_is_your_most_surprising_i/dc8ci9q
That's a fairly accurate summation.
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The real LPT something hey look a hummingbird
thesuper88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Had no idea.
AlphaAnt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you take Vyvanse; stomach acidity doesn't matter because it's absorbed in the intestines.
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe my stomach doesn't fully adjust the PH until the intestines, then? Because the reason we noticed the OJ thing in the first place - we were in the office to up my dosage once again because it wasn't proving to be very effective. After noticing the OJ problem and switching to a different drink (usually water, sometimes milk with a breakfast) we didn't need to keep upping my dosage. Could be placebo but that's what my experience was.
AlphaAnt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With Vyvanse or just Adderall? If it's Vyvanse, that's really odd. Typically the pH of the stomach is ~3, and the pH of the small intestine is ~7.8.
Vyvanse is dextroamphetamine that has been bonded with an L-lysine molecule. The acidity of the stomach can't affect or absorb the compound molecule due to the lysine, so the molecule is able to pass unabated to the small intestine. The enzymes in the intestines can shear off the lysine portion of the molecule, leaving just the dextroamphetamine, which is now easily absorbed by the intestinal lining.
TL;DR Orange juice should have no effect on lisdexamfetamine (aka Vyvanse), but it has a significant effect on amphetamine salts (aka Adderall).
Zhang5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, well there's the confusion! I use Adderall and your original "Unless you take Vyvanse" comment made me think you were trying to say things the opposite way around. We're actually in agreement - Adderall is affected by stomach PH. :3
MrAndersson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:34:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The non-fidgety high is more-or-less the normal for non-ADHD people, you probably only perceive it as a high because your normal is really a 'low'.
ADHD sufferers are actually measurably less positive about just about anything in life than the average person, essentially we're anti-high/'low' without our medication!
jonnyp11 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To your experience not being normal, I'll add mine. I skipped a few days once, and had a test that day, so I doubled up my 30mg XR (which wasn't doing too much after years of that dosage). I felt like my mind couldn't wander even if I wanted to, and I felt kinda slow. It wasn't exactly a fun time, not to say it was bad either, it just happened.
Also, I've been off since April or May, and after the first week I felt like I didn't really need it any more. I'd like to not need it, but I'm going back to school on Wednesday (took a semester off), so I'll find out when I'm stuck listening to boring shit.
sirus20x6 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:28:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't have opposite effects it's just that the dose for a person with ADD (which is really just a category of symptoms not an actual specific disease) has to be higher to put them into that state. This is because whatever the real underlying cause of their ADD is, DRD2, DRD4 receptors, long chain VS short chain dopamine, VAL/VAL vs VAL/MET vs MET/MET genes that clear dopamine in the brain all cause a person to react to amphetamine less.
Think of it as a bell curve. Normal people can take very very small doses of amphetamines for increased focus just like people with ADD it's just that no one does that, they pop a pill meant for someone else's physiology.
throwaway13579_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some anti-seizure/convulsant medications can cause seizures, "ticks", and drowsiness in unmedicated people. Like, hey, don't take them for some kind of high - you very well could die
dogen83 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't at normal doses. Stimulant medications help people focus whether they have ADHD or not, which is why medical students and law students abuse it while studying. They can study for hours on end. In large quantities, though, you'd be jacked.
himit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:47:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband occasionally takes one of my Ritalin (he works a night job) and when he does he says it feels like his mind is flying. It's fucking awesome, he's so smart, his body's really tired but his brain feels incredible, yada yada.
I take one and just feel like the white noise has stopped. I wish they made me feel awesome!
Hodorhohodor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say, it might make you more energetic, but it definitely doesn't hurt your concentration. I feel so smart on Adderall, it's probably just false confidence but that alone makes you perform better.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MeshesAreConfusing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I know a lot of doctors who use the hell out of Stavigile
dogen83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that depends on what you mean by easy. I'm a prescriber, but the majority of my patients are on Medicaid, and I've never been able to convince the state to cover the cost of modafinil. My peers in private practice may hand it out like breath mints, I don't know. :)
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have pretty severe ADHD, both inattentive and hyperactive, and I once had someone try to explain to me that it's "cheating" that people with ADHD can legally use these drugs while they're studying.
I asked him "didn't you ever wonder why they give stimulants to people who are hyperactive?"
"Oh yeah, that is kind of weird. Why would you want to make a hyper person more hyper?"
"IT'S ALMOST AS IF DRUGS ARE PRESCRIBED FOR REASONS MORE COMPLICATED THAN STIMULANTS = CHEATING."
Fuzzy_lips ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:48:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly it. When I was in high school it was cool to take pills. So my friend and I bought a few and after a few hours of feeling nothing I went to bed. I woke up at 4 am to my friend who'd turned into fucking Picasso. Painted all over her bedroom walls. I was diagnosed with ADD, she was normal. She was brilliant without it, and a wonderful artist. But she had drawn fucking mandalas on all four of her walls with very intricate details. She passed away and we have those drawings as memories โค
LordRahl1986 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:28:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People with ADHD , true ADHD , are effected by caffeine in the opposite way as well
Alyscupcakes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that is why I drink espresso right before bed.
Marimba_Ani ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To a point. Too much caffeine and you'd still be fidgety, high heart rate, etc.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:42:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Somewhere between 700-800mg is where that switch flips
damnisuckatreddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:31:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
High HR and fidgety, sure, but cool as a cucumber mentally. It's nice.
LordRahl1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I dont experience that. Not saying you are wrong, just stating personal experience here.
Marimba_Ani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure! People are all different, even ones with similar conditions. Biology is fascinating.
LordRahl1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree
GreyFoxMe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't really work in the opposite way. It's just that both Amphetamine and Caffeine improves your concentration, which can make someone with ADHD calm down and actually be able to focus on things better.
LordRahl1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which would be the opposite to most people, yes?
GreyFoxMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Opposite would be getting tired and drowsy. Which is not really what is happening.
jeanerweiner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got ADHD but I'm so small that any amount of coffee I'm gonna drink is gonna jack me the fuck up after a 10-minute drowsy period.
LordRahl1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's interesting how everyone is reporting a different effect.
jeanerweiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure if I had a higher tolerance for it I'd have a longer period of drowsyness.
Hrothgarex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is this why I pass out whenever I have caffeine? I never have coffee, but at some LAN parties I would have one and pass out. Unfortunately my ADHD meds don't do anything. No side effects, no benefits, no differences. After taking Addy the first few times I felt potentially more tired, but after max Addy and max Concerta doses my doc wants to switch me to Strattera because of a "high tolerance".
LordRahl1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I used to work fkr a LAN and the only energy drink that gave me any sort kf energy was bawls . And jt was still about the same as just going and getting some food.
Kate2point718 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was diagnosed with ADHD last year, which came as a big surprise, and once I learned what inattentive ADHD looks like I realized that my dad acts pretty much exactly the same way.
Anyway, my doctor was asking me about caffeine, which I do drink a lot of (I'm drinking some right now, at 11:22 at night). Interestingly, my dad also drinks a whole lot of caffeine while the rest of my family does not because it makes them jittery. My doctor said that my dad and I have probably been unknowingly self-medicating with caffeine.
CursesandMutterings ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:22:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't diagnosed with inattentive ADD until I was 27. Then it clicked. I used to joke with coworkers that caffeine had basically no effect on me. I used to drink a medium Starbucks coffee with three shots of espresso to try to wake up ... I wouldn't feel a thing.
That made a whole lot more sense after the diagnosis.
LordRahl1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I exclusively drink caffeinated drinks ( mostly soda) And it does literally nothing for me as far as energy. Hell I coukd have 3 cans while laying in bed and go to bed.
tequilajinx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People with ADHD produce less dopamine than non-affected people. The reason that we most of us are highly active is because activity produces dopamine. Amphetamines act like dopamine, giving our brains the reward it needs which makes us calm down.
BoozeMeUpScotty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Am prescribed Adderall for something other than ADHD and it makes me so incredibly twitchy and talkative, which is absolutely notttt enjoyable for someone who is an introvert. My body compulsively does the exact opposite of what my brain enjoys.
Niveskill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This right here.
elvenmage16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you knew how the medication worked, it would make perfect sense :-) Source: I'm a mental health therapist with ADHD
maxiquintillion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, take lots of adderall
disposable-name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"There must be balance. Sunrise, sunset."
2hoodrich4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of funny to me that ADHD people on adderall react like normal people unmedicated.
ajc1239 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd never understood why people take adderall until I made that connection one day. I was like dude adderall just zombifies me.
apvalentine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually sleep pretty heavy on adderall which my doctor said happens in about 10%. That shit was awesome for sleeping
Jonathan924 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a sweet spot though. You go past it, and you're right back to the ADHD.
theloehndorf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have ADHD and when i was younger I put $15 into a pool to buy adderall and do group drugs and while everyone was having a great time I was just like wtf this sucks I don't know why you guys are freaking out.
I then realized after confessing to my mother that my ADHD pills contain adderall.
Jebbediahh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeeeeeeuuupp
ThisdudeisEH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have ADHD. When I was a freshman a friend brought up snorting adderal. So I gave it a go telling him I don't think it will do anything.
He got all hyper I went and chilled out I think playing video games
adale_50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always found this strange as well. The following is very basic but you get the picture. Since Adderall is basically the "best" speed man has ever created.
ADHD+uppers=normal Normal+uppers=ADHD
denimbastard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, friends and I had a couple packs when we were younger. We were wide awake, talking intent shit on one specific subject for hours, going on long walks without shoes...One friend who had a hugely obvious undiagnosed case of ADHD, always ranting and demanding attention and needing to go out and do something, can't sit through a film... read a book and got an early night.
iknowdanjones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah seriously. I started taking it, and suddenly classes were bearable. It was the same old droll, but I was at least able to take notes without texting 4 friends, playing a game on my phone, getting up to go pee just so I can get up and move, draw all over my notes, and then leave class having no idea what mitosis is.
HalfysReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amphetamines are a hell of a drug.
supbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm interning with therapists in mental health and this has come up - kid is improperly diagnosed with ADHD, given medication which causes more problems than they were originally brought in with, no one knows what to do, and the kid never gets a firm diagnosis or proper treatment. I'm simplifying, but it's definitely something that happens and really sucks for everyone involved.
Zarathustranx ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only time i stop bouncing my leg is when I'm on adderall.
Dr_Marxist ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 00:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, for sure. For people with ADHD or other hyperactive disorders it has a calming effect. Similarly curious is how taking too many benzos can make people irrationally angry and alert. Pharmacology is weird and I'm not expert, just a fascinated casual observer.
Simple_Rules ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 00:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hilarious. This is how I learned I have ADD. Finally was at my wits end, buy some fucking adderal to make it through midterms. Take the adderal. Proceed to have a totally normal day. Study for an hour, play some games, do some errands, study some more, play another round of games, study some more...
Most productive day ever, but no issues with over-concentration or jumpiness. At the end of it I'm like aren't I supposed to get hyper focused or jittery or... ohhhh. Oh. Shit.
daitoshi ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:25:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed the world was a bit quieter when I had caffeine in my system - it was like the six TVs constantly fizzing channels in the background just had the volume turned down from 50 to 10. The world seemed sharper, like cleaning your glasses for the first time in a while, and realizing with hindsight that they had been filthy. The overwhelming chatter of "everything" had just... faded.
I didn't realize "normal people" took caffeine to be awake and energetic - by the end of college I was chugging about a pot a day, relishing in the quiet existence of being alone with a steady train of thoughts.
And then I started getting heartburn from too much coffee and then horrible headaches and nausea from suddenly cutting caffeine cold turkey when I stopped drinking coffee. (I didn't switch to energy drinks because a kid in high school was pulled from classes for a month after drinking so many energy shots he started getting stomach ulcers and heart problems. Yikes.)
After the billionth time realizing my constantly racing, jittery, "every sensation in existence is equally important and time does not exist" was not normal, I went to the doctor.
Wheee~ isn't ADHD fun? /s
madsci ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:26:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Years ago someone gave me some bunk Ecstasy. Turned out to be a mix of other stimulants. Apparently lots of people are OK going out and dancing on that crap. I spent four hours reading about electromagnetism, Lorentz invariance, and Minkowski space. And puking.
YeastInVagMakesBread ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:59:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spot fucking on about the "time does not exist" part. When I started adderall, being late meant something for the first time.
daitoshi ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm losing less time now :)
I haven't stopped losing time, but it's down to "whoops there goes 3 minutes when I was distracted" instead of "holy shit I'm an hour late to work because the fish tank was beautiful this morning"
ForePony ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have set a lot of alarms on my phone to keep reminding me to do shit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Protip on the caffeine: If you have trouble sleeping, drink a diet soda before bed. The caffeine will calm your mind, without the sugar to give you the rush.
daitoshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really have trouble sleeping, but thanks for the advice!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:49:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Different chemical, but I discovered my ADHD similarly. I've always had insomnia (I'll literally lay in bed for 4+ hours). I drank alcohol for a while (what's a HS kid gonna do, when your parents won't take you to a doctor), until it was becoming an addiction, and I tried medical marijuana which thankfully isn't addictive to me.
When I first got my card, my wife and I both smoked. She giggled, got munchies, and generally acted like a stereotypical stoner. Well, I took my hits only to realize I need to get some homework. Fast forward a few hours and I turn the assignment in. Then it hits me, I literally just sat in one spot focusing on work.
I couldn't find a single person who's had this reaction, until one google result brought up a forum about an ADHD guy who responded the same way. Started doing research on ADHD and discovered strong traits (definitely confirmed by my wife), as well as it being 80% inheritable (my father is ADHD)
GreedySnoo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:44:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
|Pharmacology is weird and I'm not expert, just a fascinated casual observer.
You are the Dan Carlin of Pharmacology.
scorinth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm at the point now where I'm not sure if I'm a bigger fan of Dan or George, and now I've started getting them confused. Took me a good minute to figure out which one you were talking about.
I just wish he would put out more Hardcore History.
tatertosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is also a bit dependent on the dose level, not just the diagnosis. At small doses, amphetamines do have a calming effect in most people, but if you're pumped up to a level you aren't tolerant to, almost anybody is going to be tweeking balls on adderall
ForePony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, I always bounce my legs and have to be moving in my seat. Should I be medicated?
Zarathustranx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very likely not. Fidgeting isn't ADHD.
scorinth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are other reasons you could be super-bouncy and moving around. If you don't want to go get tested by a psychiatrist just yet, you could take one of those online ADHD screening tests or just start paying attention to whether stimulants make you more energized or calmer.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:56:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's some early evidence suggesting a real, quick test for ADHD right now. Essentially, it has to do with mirrored psychomotor movements. If you fidget by tapping your fingers on your right hand, it's likely your left hand will very slightly mirror/twitch those same actions. With ADHD, the person will exhibit this mirroring far more than anyone else.
Bogaragaraga ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:20:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm almost always bouncing and I don't take Adderall.
Don't be too judgemental!
benediktkr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you should take some adderall?
lemonade_eyescream ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:58:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[STUDYING INTENSIFIES]
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I do this normally.
I hope my professors didn't think I was on addy.
mousieee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:34:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I highly doubt that is the case more than maybe half of the time. I have a pretty severe anxiety disorder. I can't even drink half a cup of decaf coffee without having a panic attack. I have to bounce my legs, fidget, etc. through almost every lecture to keep my anxiety at bay enough to pay attention to what the professor is talking about. I feel like I look like I've taken a bunch of Adderall, but really I just have a fucked up brain that doesn't let me relax. I have several friends who have similar problems, as well...
AlbertFischerIII ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:23:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of us just can't concentrate when we're sitting still. It takes more effort for me to make sure my arms and legs aren't tapping than it does to listen to a boring lecture.
ging3rtabby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol when I don't take my concerta I bounce through class. But I have legit ADHD.
thisismeER ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:50:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know my Adderall is working when I relax... and poop
BrianLemur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, great, thank you, now I'm worried that all my teachers thought I was on Adderall just because I was fidgety. I really needed another thing to be anxious about.
Mephisto-Pheles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya know I can tell which of the doctors in our office took adderall in med school. It's the one that read a very early study that a diabetes medication could improve memory, then asked the pharmacist if she had any, and took the entire supply to use himself as a guinea pig.
thatSlytheringirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Adderall isn't prescribed in my country, only ritalin, but one of my friend's boyfriends isn't from my country and was prescribed Adderall so he gives out that stuff to the people in our school like crazy. Others just buy ritalin from someone to study. I don't do either because my doctor prohibited it for me (I suffer from BAD anxiety)
TMan2DMax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its always amazed me how other students who don't need adderall think it makes then focus better. It makes me stop fidgeting and focus because I have ADHD, but I know a few of my friends who react to it like cocaine
ThoriGilmore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, I'm not ADHD and when the two times I took Adderall I was really mellow. Like I didn't even want to move my hand to turn the page of the book I was reading. It is weird, its like you feel really relaxed and the world around you kind of slows down. But fidgeting was something I would not being doing while taking Adderall.
quiteobviously ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you're bouncing because you have fibromyalgia and being in any one position too long hurts.
valicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how I am all the time without Adderall.
funmamareddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take adderall for my add, if I don't I'm bouncing around like a fool at work. If I do, I sit still and get shit done.
rougerogue- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is me on my (prescribed) meds though. I have inattentive not hyperactive type attention deficit. I worry bosses and professors will assume I'm abusing drugs because I popped a pill earlier and now I'm sweaty and loud
Kate2point718 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fidget a lot naturally (I'm not hyperactive, just fidgety). I never thought about it before but now I wonder if people think I've been abusing Adderall!
Tmckye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tap my foot constantly, In any situation where the chairs are connected in a row people comment on it when I do it without thinking. I wonder how many people thing I'm high all the time.
ionlypwn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had teachers ask me if I'm on something and they say they wonder because I will literally bounce one of my legs for hour or 2 during a class. I just don't feel comfortable sitting still ever. I've done it since like 1st grade to and I just don't know, sometimes it gets really bad lol
OverlordXenu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
most people i know with restless legs aren't on adderall, for what it's worth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you're looking at students with adhd the are unmedicated. So that's pretty judgemental of you.
ChompyGator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here I am, ADHD my whole life - medicated finally in grad school, and I take Adderall to NOT fidget and fuss about..
Etcetera_and_soforth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. Adderall is what keeps me from bouncing and fidgeting.
FirstForFun44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Studying Intensifies!
boohissouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, most of my professors probably think I'm on adderall, but I just have anxiety and constantly have to bounce my legs up and down to focus in class. One more thing to be anxious about!
raethen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has been using Ritalin for 27 years I can agree that if the meds are making you fidgety then you don't need them.
Taking that stuff is what stops the fidgets and wandering mind. The people I've met that take it when they shouldn't remind me of what I'm like without the meds.
Anecdotal I know, but I do have a ton of personal experience.
Herb_Kazzaz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:51:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cocaine is one hell of a drug
Doonvoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'M RICK JAMES, BITCH
AgoraiosBum ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pam?
DongLaiCha ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:14:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pam....
altervista ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PAMMMMMMMMMM!
MrNature72 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:20:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IM DR ROCKSO
22442524 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:58:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AND I DO
COCAINE
deadcelery ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:58:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I DO COCAINE!
lemonpup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:02:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THE ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN
sealeg86 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't do cocaine I just like the way it smells
SellingCoach ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to know a dude in his 50s who did a TON of coke. Snorted it, freebased it, you name it.
The guy had a heart attack a year or so before I met him and he explained to me that the coke was good for him because it exercised his heart.
I moved away a long time ago but I'm fairly certain he is dead by now.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's exactly what I imagine a person on cocaine would say, I have no trouble believing that.
kasuchans ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sober me: yeah, coke is fun.
Me on coke: fuck yeah coke is the best drug ever
hobobob182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is eerily accurate
PositiveAlcoholTaxis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:42:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C-c-c-cocaine!
technomouse_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:46:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhhhhhhh nicotine Valium Vicodin marijuana ecstasy and alcohooooll C-c-c-c-cooocaaainne
Unforgettawha ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:41:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
K-K-K-K-K-K-YEAH!
crielan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:27:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just need a little valium to help smooth me out doc.
billyntheclonasaurus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:12:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fair call
GLaDOs18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You're my best friend, Jerry Smith. I love doing cocaine with you."
"Woah! I love doing cocaine with you too, Johnny Depp!"
Ropes4u ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Addicts have the best (stupid) ER stories - source recovered addict.
forcepowers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Rockzo fangirl.
BigGreenYamo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar situation a little over a month ago: 19 year old male admitted for "heart palpitations".
Turns out, he fell off the wagon into a 3 day cocaine bender, only THIS time he decided to shoot it, rather than snort it.
So anyway, he finally came down and started freaking out about his heart rate.
When one of the nurse's asked if he thinks the heart thing is related to the iv drug use thing, he said "yeah, but I love cocaine!"
Midziu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The patient clearly loves cocaine. What kind of a doctor are you to tell them otherwise?!
PM_ME_UR_PIERCINGS_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was her name Pam?
lexrp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pam?
whattoucantfind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like Pam from Archer
tequilasheila ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
75 year old, back to Primary Care following a hospitalization for a minor MI. "WHY didn't YOU tell me cocaine could cause a heart attack?"
mmmolives ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Reminds me a story one of my ER nurse relatives told me. Dude comes in on the ambulance overdosed on roofies & cocaine, to be clear he roofied himself intentionally then did a bunch of coke. Almost died multiple times while they are pulling out all the stops working their asses off to save his life. When he finally pulled through & was conscious again they gravely explained where he was & what had happened. His response? "Huh, guess I won't try that drug combination again."
Orpheus321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard the startalk podcast recently with Bill nye and Chuck nice. they were taking about drugs and bill says "I'm not a huge fan of pot, I don't even like the smell of it" and chuck says "I'm not really a fan of the smell of pot either, but I LOVE the smell of cocaine" lol. I was dying laughing. seemed relevant.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to say I have a history of insomnia. I had a really bad reaction to Ambien, so that's a big no for me. One week with no warning, I just couldn't sleep. I didn't sleep for five days. On the third day I went to the doctors office in the hopes of anything else. My heart rate was pretty elevated and I was kind of emotional. I was kind of afraid he thought I was a tweaker. But after a certain length of time without sleep it almost feels like you're on drugs.
misyo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who doesn't?
Bobcatluv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a reversal of fucked up adult/doctor stories, I once had a series of recurring sinus infections over a year long period. I had just gotten over a phase of Yay, and I decided to come clean, (so to speak) and tell my doctor why I felt I may have had this problem.
He was sympathetic and explained that coke can have a cauterizing effect, etc etc then asked, "How much?"
I replied, "Oh, I used to do maybe like, a G a month?"
To which he replied, "No, how much does it cost?" and winked at me.
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. I was a patient (yay chronic illness!) in an ER one time when this cracked out woman spent hours calling everyone she knew to complain LOUDLY of how security had taken her crack pipe. She would yell on and on about how she wanted it back and how she was going to sue. I've always wondered what it was the brought her in to begin with (and why she didn't think of said crack pipe before walking through the metal detector but what do I know) since smoking more crack sure seemed to be her only care in the world.
dpfw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy Cokesnacks!
brookie12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DAMMIT PAM STOP EATING ALL THE COCAINE.
plotis96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I weirdly imagined that in Chris Parnell's voice
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was her name Pam Poovey?
beingmostlyanidiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of Sarah Lynn from Bojack Horseman!
OneDerangedLlama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In all fairness, cocaine is one hell of a drug.
super_ag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I so want to tell these people, "You can love cocaine all you want. Just don't come to the hospital and waste our time when you have chest pain from all the coke you love to do."
SlamBrandis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of a patient I once took care of. He was a heart transplant recipient who wouldn't stop doing cocaine. I told him he kept getting sicker because of all the cocaine he was using, he said 'but cocaine makes me feel great!'
Jacquezs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, who doesn't?
themasterkser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pam, stop eating all of the goddamn cocaine
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ke ke yeah!
ilovecocainealot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. This is true
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I mean, it's cocaine.
Torvaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hard to argue with that.
ihahp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um, isn't that the talk of an addict?
They know it's bad. But they don't care.
hillspire64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"K" lol
iamnotcreative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She must have seen Dr. Rockzo first.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't argue with that logic.
EatDiveFly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like cocaine. But i love the smell of it.
wizardofoz420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Dr Rockso and I love cocaine.
starfishprime4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't love cocaine, I just love the smell of it!
mewfahsah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was there any chance her last name was Castle?
Bklyn_99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was her name Pam?
DemonicLiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I have that Buckcherry song stuck in my head. "I love the cocaine I love the cocaine!"
liartellinglies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My resting heart rate is in the low 50s, just reading 200 bpm made me clammy.
white_butterfly1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was she a rock and roll clown?
Rock_Me-Amadeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, she was high. Obviously she's not going to be hugely receptive to medical advise at that point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Pow pow pow. Chikka chikka pow. Cocaine!"
FireEagleSix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
200bpm? Jesus. That isn't fatal? What would that do to a person?
boomboomk9000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard it in the voice of that GTA V radio ad.
BOBSMITHHHHHHH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doc - "yes yes I can see th-"
patient - " no you don't understand! I FFFFFFFFUCKING LOVE COCAINE"
IowaContact ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was her name Pam by any chance?
PlasticGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Sarah Lynn?
itouchbeans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh, nothing like some good ole nose beers.
T-roy7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol did you have to give her adenosine?
jaytrade21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/metalocalypse/images/7/75/Dr-rockso-thumb.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080910202338
melance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Dr. Rockso, the rock and roll clown! I do cocaaaaine!
plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pam poovey
ACryingOrphan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/X9IZLyEv81A
Whas this the patient?
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all got anymore of that coke?
RammsteinDEBG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thanks for the laughs friend hahaha
BrutalWarPig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr Rockso. Is that you?
SillyFlyGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought tweaking was meth..
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good story, but I wouldn't call it surprising necessarily. Seems pretty obvious that she loved cocaine.
OriginalTravokk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:21:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was it the blond?
http://i.imgur.com/LE7h0Ow.gif
Bakytheryuha ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Concaine's a hell of a drug.
jpsi314 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:52:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is this not the top comment?
Crobeam ยท 829 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was working in GP and had a patient scheduled for an appointment. Looked through his notes to gain an idea of why he may be seeing me and saw he'd been seen a few times with knee pains/shoulder pains and the like. The guy is in his 70s so probably just arthritis. I'm thinking I'll do an examination of his sore joints and ask a few questions, prescribe some painkillers and it'll be a quick one.
Call him in and he walks in sits down and is cheery as anything.
"What seems to be the problem then, sir? I notice you've had some issues recently with sore joints" I ask.
He then proceeds to tell me about this sore knee. So I check his knee and take a history and it all seems fine. Ask anything else and he's like oh actually my neck is sore too. So I check his neck and nothing untoward to be found there either. At this point he's like ok well thanks doc I'll be off then.
I say to him oh good glad we could help. And you have no other pains at all before you go? He then sits back down and tells me he's been having central, crushing chest pain radiating down his left arm and into his jaw since last night and has been feeling breathless and when it happened he had an impending sense of doom.
I know a lot of you won't be doctors here but I'm sure you all recognise signs of an MI there. He had all the classic textbooks symptoms.
Called an ambulance and he was rushed to hospital for PCI. (Edit: Percutaneous coronary intervention - thread a catheter up the arteries into the coronary artery to find and then treat the blockage - sorry for the medical acronym haha)
Tl;Dr - man came in complaining of arthritis and when he was about to leave decided to tell me he'd had a heart attack the night before and thought nothing of it
xhaltdestroy ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 03:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of my grandpa. He has had three heart attacks. The last one he had was about 7:30 on a Monday evening. He was in so much pain he couldn't get out of his chair all night. He waited until the next morning to drive himself to a doctor and tell them what was up.
We were absolutely furious! When asked if it felt like his previous heart attacks he smiled and said "yup, about the same."
nolo_me ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor. I recognise MI but PCI has me stumped. Doesn't help that it's an acronym in my field too.
CantStandBullshit ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 03:44:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, you mean he wasn't rushed to the hospital for an emergency peripheral component interconnect?
EDIT: derp.
nolo_me ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:04:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently it wasn't an emergency Payment Card Industry either.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Blackultra ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:56:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't aka a medical term with another medical term....
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:02:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sorator ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:35:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they're trying to say that if folks don't know the first term, they probably also won't know the second, so that's not a very helpful explanation.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dad's a doctor and I knew MI but not PCI. Coronary angioplasty meant more to me than... whatever the hell PCI stands for. Can't even remember because it doesn't mean much to me. Thanks :)
296milk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:42:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think his point is that I don't know what either of those words mean.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intervention just means any intervention, can be angio or stent, etc.
PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:30:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No he didn't! You said that you asked him about his joints before he had a chance to complain of anything.
Old guy was being polite and talking about what his doctor thought was important.
296milk ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 05:44:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure you talk to a nurse and fill out a form before actually speaking with a doctor. Doctor asks about what he's told and what he's read.
PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:59:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like they guy complained about arthritis in the past so the doctor assumed that's why he was there that day.
Crobeam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I cut the story down a bit for reddit sake. Basically I looked at his last 5 visits to the doctor's or so and it was all arthritis type stuff. So when he came to me and I said what seems to be the problem? I notice you've been having issues with your joints lately. I also asked him was that why he was here or was he here for another reason to which he responded something along the lines of well I've got these pains doc. Thus I asked him where he has his pains and he proceeds to tell me about his knee and his neck etc before even mentioning his chest pains.
Sorry for the ambiguity :)
Treczoks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom was the same. She was on her way back home from the doctor (she just had had her annual checkup), and got a small infarct half way home. She fell, got back up, and went home instead back to the doctor.
When I came home in the evening, she was in bed and not feeling well. I called the doctor (not the ambulance, she said she did not feel that unwell), and when he arrived and looked after her, he immediately told me to call an ambulance...
Crobeam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hope your mom is ok now! And yeh its mental how many people will experience symptoms and just pass it off as something else. I think one person who replied to this hit the nail on the head and that its denial. I think many people recognise the symptoms of a heart attack but are too scared to do anything about it because everyone knows a heart attack is serious business.
My grandfather is still alive but he's diabetic and was recently having a work up at hospital and they noticed he had evidence of a previous heart attack based of his ecg findings. He'd probably had a "silent MI" though they theorised as he'd not had any symptoms and he's diabetic which can mess with your nerves and thus he wouldn't have felt it happen. Can't believe that man is still alive tbh
epic_misclick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how you start the sentence with "I know a lot of you won't be doctors here.." and then proceed to use a doctors term. For those of us not in the know. Please explain what MI means.
Crobeam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry that's my bad - MI = Myocardial infarction so basically a heart attack.
epic_misclick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for explaining what Myocardial infarction is, I would have lost my shit if your response was literally just telling me what MI stood for and no follow up.
Crobeam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. No I'm sorry. Its one of the things we all have to work on and usually when I'm with a patient I'm really good at cutting out jargon/medical lingo as it can confuse but when I'm at my PC its much harder to remember to do so. Sorry anyway :)
Rising_Swell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hang on, those symptoms (aside from the pain from left arm to jaw) are exactly what i get when i smoke a ton of dope. And dope being somewhat decent at covering up pain, just leaves crushing chest but not painful, have i had multiple heartattacks?
iCameToLearnSomeCode ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:47:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, this is not from a cardiac event, I have had the same feeling before (I quit and then over did it as I was used to how much I used to be able to smoke) It is basically the result of a panic attack.
http://www.calmclinic.com/anxiety/symptoms/chest-pain
Rising_Swell ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:17:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL i enjoy panic attacks. thats... odd. But hey at least it isn't me skirting with death huh
tibtibs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that smoking fucks with your arteries and can cause coronary issues in the future...
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking weed, not tobacco. The fact I'm still smoking it means there will be minor issues with lungs while i smoke, because regardless of what it is, it's still inhaling smoke, and for a short time after, but there's no tar or anything to cause long lasting issues.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:26:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Rising_Swell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:34:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, that just undoes most of my 'knowledge' about tabacco and marijuana, i thought they just added the tar and other shit, rather than the plants containing piles of it themselves, which does sound a tad counter-intuitive, but so many things are.
edit: More research shows that marijuana does in fact have considerably more tar than cigarettes, but it does less damage due to how people smoke cigarettes vs how people smoke marijuana (typically). Because people smoke a ton of cigarettes a day, or at least the people i know, and in the articles i found, there is more tar put into your lungs with typical use of cigarettes, but if you smoke marijuana and cigarettes the same way, the marijuana will be worse in the short term with the tar. Apparently however marijuana somehow avoids having a known link to lung cancer despite having a pile of carcinogens. Maybe the rumours of it slowing down cancer are true, and work to counteract the carcinogens, or something else is at work. I'm not a scientist, I don't know.
oily_fish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:12:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is due to the fact that a lot of marijuana smokers also smoke tobacco. Marijuana smokers are getting cancer but it's hard to prove that it contributed to the cancer. Also people might be lying about marijuana use and say they smoke tobacco instead
Fenrils ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youre exactly right about the lying but a huge reason for our lack knowledge on marijuana comes from our lack of clinical research into it, mostly due to it being illegal in most areas resulting in it being borderline impossible to have good studies with large sample sizes. Once the legal restrictions inevitably lessen, I'm sure we'll start seeing just as many studies on it as we've had for alcohol and tobacco, for better or worse.
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, I'll wait and see if i get lung cancer, i've had 1 cigarette ever, and it isn't happening again because jesus fucking christ they taste awful
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, I'll wait and see if i get lung cancer, i've had 1 cigarette ever, and it isn't happening again because jesus fucking christ they taste awful
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Marijuana doesn't paralyze the cilia though like tobacco does. So comparing them isn't as simple as looking at the amount of tar, since your lungs start immediately cleaning marijuana tar if you don't also smoke cigarettes.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How slumped over are you when you smoke? Your posture affects how well your chest works. If you spend 5 hours almost stationary hunched like a hunchback, you are going to have all kinds of pains. We call these "relax accidents", you forget that moving is something our bodies like to do like shift positions a lot and hold our backs firmly upright. Sitting down can decrease your time on this plane by considerable amounts.
Also, your heartbeat will increase and your blood pressure will rise. Neither is good if we don't do some aerobic work; if you jig and get your heartrate up by 2x, it is exercises and will strengthen your heart. If you do it sitting down, you are basically revving your engine when stationary: the whole system is still on idle mode, nothing is moving fast enough, your heart will not get enough oxygen and nutrition since your body is not pumping oxygen and glucose thru your body and taking care of waste products at faster rate.. You can think of this as borrowed time that will decrease few weeks to years from the end part of your life and possibly make the whole journey much less enjoyable.
If you do some cardio everyday, you can toke for longer. All that exercise will improve ALL pathways, including nerves and all that sweet endocrine stuff, like all the fluids needed to give you good mix of stuff that actually makes you high... most drugs just increase production of one compound in our bodies so having good health actually for realsies means better and more enhanced highs and not just increased tolerance.. Exercising while toking heavily is not that good idea either, you need to attack it with carrot and stick; first you jog, the you toke.. 15 minutes a day will start it, 30 minutes is where we start to get actual benefits but ANY mild cardio works. Walk to the grocery store instead of taking a car is what you need to do, daily. Then toke. If you toke, you will not want to walk...
And yeah, what others said, weed has tar in it, about the same or more than cigarettes. There is very little difference between the two smokes and their ill effects. What makes it differ is that nicotine is nerve poison at high enough concentration where as THC is definitely not a poison. If you want to toke safe, use good vaporizers or edibles (bad vaporizers are almost or even worse than smoking, allowing often way too high temperatures and allow burning of material in quite low heat meaning incomplete combustion and very nasty stuff.. if we burn, we burn very hot and very fast, not slow and barely smoldering.. or we don't burn at all).
Rising_Swell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do pretty much no cardio at all, because i typically cant really do much with ingrowns on both toes, although only 1 side is particularly bad. (seems like a pretty lame excuse, but unless youve had really bad ones, you dont understand the pain)
Also my posture slowly but surely gets worse the more i smoke. I normally use a pipe, so first pipe still sitting up fairly straight, second one, little bit slumped over, somewhere between the 3rd and 5th (depending on how much i pack it) is when i decide to go lie down because i dont feel confident not falling out of me seat.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of us have some issues, i'm sorry about yours and i'm not gonna start advising what you should do about it.. You figure it out :) I have some experience with this issue as well, toking and having adverse health effects from just relaxing wrong..
Mine is actually bad back, upper back is hereditary, lower back i broke doing too much work in my teens... I'm long time toker too, can say that the first 15 years it was a problem (either not getting any or being addicted to it, letting it run my life), last 5 it's been more under control. I'm not kidding myself as i'm totally addicted to the lifestyle, to the whole thing, inspiration it gives me but i am anyway going to be addicted for the test of my life to something, at least i could make a choice what my poisons it is going to be (coffee and THC). My dad's voice has been stronger in my head: "suck it up son, it takes same amount of energy to hold yourself straight".. of course, it doesn't but there is a kernel of truth, something is holding you up and that something is your internal organs and fluid pressure.. Your skin is keeping you up like a water balloon and that is not a good thing..
Try to figure out a good relaxation posture, get yourself a good comfy armchair or something, move around, change seats... It helps with a whole lot of other problems coming from "relaxation accidents": from you bowel movement to your breathing to your blood pressure to your alertness (the good kind, not the paranoid kind, it just means you are a little bit brighter, like faster at solving puzzles for ex). This is not a fact but i believe it has something to do with all those fluids in your body, the whole system is based on two things: either we walk or we lie down and we do a LOT more of walking that sleeping.. That is what it is designed to be, remember, human are the absolutely champions on Earth among all lifeforms on endurance. Theoretically, there is not a land based animal we can't outrun. So that is how our bodies have evolved, to be upright and all those internal organs, veins, cavities, everything jostling around as our bodies move. Sit for hours and stuff just piles up and concentrations raise and if there is something i've learned about humans is that concentration is super important (look at osmosis..)..
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The chair im typically sitting in when smoking (before lying down) is probably the best solid chair you could get for $50, so it's decent, but i go lie down fairly quickly, because i cant play any of my games as i dont like to play them outside of ranked, and even when absolutely munted i know that playing a game in a competitive gamemode is just asking to lose my rank XD
Also when you say there isn't a land animal we cant outrun, thats only if we are the hunters, we can hunt something for days straight if we need to, but if we are running then we are totally screwed XD
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That last part is exactly where we excel, we can keep running the longest of any alnd animal. It is thought that it was one of the primary methods of hunting before we got clever about it; human can run any animal to exhaustino by keeping the sort of speed a marathon runner does.. When it comes to pure speed, we are quite rubbish but when it comes to one continuous distance, we are almost without comparison.. Most animal can run mile, two miles at that pace in any weather before they have to stop, just for few seconds, half a minute.. They do not have such cooling mechanism as we do and the efficiency of long distance runner far exceeds petty much anything at that speed.
One example that seems counterintuitive: Horses can run very far, at their own pace. The kind of galloping long distance running is just impossible, their brains literally cook from the inside out if we don't allow them to cool off every now and then. If we can keep them above this limit, we can outrun anything..
Look it up, not my invention and really, i thought that we actually don't excel in anything physical when it comes to animal kingdom but this is the second area where we can actually triumph (if intelligence is accounted as physical, it definitely makes things efficient when you can plan in better detail..). So when you think about, a hunting party running as a team on a flat ground.. There is very few animals who can escape that situation. Also, we can climb well so trees are not guaranteed safety either. Not even wolves have that kind of versatility, they do have the teamwork honed down and can outrun pretty much anything as a team but lack in other areas, where we just do not... Why humans as a species survived in the first place starts to make whole lot of sense; scare any animal and you can let it kill itself by just running behind it and clubbing it in the head when it is already cooking...
Crobeam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think someone else has already replied but if you're only getting that when you smoke weed, the chances are you're having a panic attack which tends to mimic symptoms of a heart attack unfortunately. This central crushing chest pain and sense of doom. As with anything though I would say if you feel worried about any symptoms you have, go get checked out - advice on the internet isn't worth a thing when it comes to medicine (even if its coming from a medical professional) I'd always recommend you seek your doctor if you think necessary. Also, maybe cut back on how much weed you're smoking if its causing you these symptoms! :D
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not worried, and i actively smoke enough to try and get that because for whatever strange reason, i enjoy it. Possibly because the crushing feeling isnt pain, just... crushing. But it is good to know i probably wont accidentally die. Also with weed illegal here, not really wanting to see a doctor and ask, i -shouldnt- get in trouble for it, but id rather not take the risk.
dejacoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sounds like he was in denial
waveydavey1953 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That happens quite a lot in mental health. People come in and feel too vulnerable/frightened/untrusting to say the real problem right up front. It's like they know they need help, but then get there and can't quite say the feared problem aloud.
Quackagate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck Saturday i managed to shoulder check a door frame and woke up Sunday wuth a sore shoulder and thought i was haveing a heart attack.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sense of impending doom is one of my biggest fears, the more i have read about it (not much, i'm not obsessed), it seems that "sense of impending doom" means you are about to drop dead. To top that, i have my self-named "nocebo" syndrome, being a sound engineer the time we spend on fighting placebo takes it's toll and you start doubting and second guessing everything your body tries to tell you.. And of course, when one has this kind of mentality for a long time, then comes "is this real or placebo or is it real but i'm counting it as placebo?" :)
Thankfully i'm healthy apart from mild arrhythmia that is hereditary from both sides of family; either i die at 60 or live to 100, seems to be the choices but only my grandad from mother's side had condition needing medication and had one heartattack, did not die from that, and was the only one to suffer from alzheimers and dementia.. all other have died after long life, 80 to 100 with nothing that says it has been specially healthy lifestyle, good habits but nothing special. But that arrhythmia is a bitch, doesn't happen on exercise but in rest, which is when you notice it, when you start looking for "sense of impeding doom".. well, our brains are not rational :) But it is remarkable how many times you start finding that sentence on "he was healthy and dead 15 minutes later" :)
theimpspeaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet that happens all the time. John Melloncamp was a heavy smoker and went to the doctor because he thought he had the flu.
He had a heart attack the day before.
fragilelyon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:40 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a patient come into the office I used to work at complaining that her chest was cold. She was a frequent flyer so we kinda laughed it off but gave her an EKG to soothe her fears.
The doctor straight sprinted to the phones when he read it. She was in the middle of a STEMI. No symptoms other than a cold chest. She was conscious, conversing normally, and cheerful.
not_to_a_computer ยท 1600 points ยท Posted at 23:45:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both my parents are doctors. My dad told me about an extremely religious male patient who was concerned about his nocturnal emissions. He saw it as a offense to God and wanted to know what he could do to stop it. My dad's response: "Well, It's gotta go somewhere guy"
hero-of-winds ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 02:25:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better out than in I always say
DilatedTeachers ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 08:51:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No-one asked you Shrek
Tini_531 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
ForgeTheSkies ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 04:21:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Semen will out - whether into a woman, or into the sheets.'
-Martin Luther (monk who started Protestantism)
Boku_no_PicoandChico ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 05:21:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
regardless if this was an actual statement...
I am having some very unsanitary thoughts about medieval monks having very crusty robes/sheets...
nowake ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 05:57:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you could crack them in half
Alexthemessiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well starched.
MagicallyAdept ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:57:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a saying in London about that - cardboard underpants.
hicow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:07:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cummiest sheet's you've ever seen. Some of 'em would stand on end.
dyld921 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:45:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or into a man
Underscore56 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 03:37:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nocturnal emissions?
QuantumLeapofFaith ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 04:25:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Night cum
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:01:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a shitty superhero name that would be.
"A Sperm Bank worker was exposed to radioactive waste. That night he ceased to be Jimmy Cumminsky, and became..."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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NilbogResident1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:55:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Champion of the sperm. He's a master of emissions, they are fun for everyone... NIGHT CUM!
splelling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:13:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surprisingly ineloquent considering the username. Haha.
Maximo9000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sheet skeet
[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 04:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahem, wet dreams.
ADSRelease ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:06:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How common are these supposed to be? I can't say I've ever had one. I've woken up while on the verge of coming but that's the closest I can verify. Have I just been taking care of it in the daytime consistent enough to not deal with this?
my_p0rn_acct ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I jack it way too often to experience nocturnal emissions as well. I'd rather it not be in my underwear and sheets when I wake up anyways.
2nd_law_is_empirical ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:18:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have the self-control, it is the best thing ever, Hyper realistic.
thenonlurker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:30:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I personally get them alot but its probably because i never masturbate (not for religious reasons just never got into it) and havent been sexually active for the majority of my life.
PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:20:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wet dreams are the body's way of expelling old sperm. If you masturbate or have sex often enough you will likely never have a wet dream.
MxMaegen ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:08:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wet dreams
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How old are you? This could be very appropriate for the thread.
Manonthebrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Moooooist dreams..
PM-Your-Tiny-Tits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it meant farting.
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 05:42:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was that so hard?
bsuave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:20:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People come for the discussion as much as the information.
sariisa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And occasionally, it would seem, people come for no reason at all.
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly assumed he meant farting during his sleep based on the word 'emissions'.
CameToComplain_v4 ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 04:03:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As St. Augustine of Hippo put it:
Source
Chief_of_Achnacarry ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 07:21:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My English is not nearly good enough to understand this (I am an ESL speaker), but it sounds wicked smaht.
letmegetmycardigan ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 07:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically he's saying that it's not happening in sin when you're asleep. If any people think it is a sin because they think it happens due to sinful lust (which is not true), do they also think that women's periods are a sin?
Klowned ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 08:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, as it happens, origins of Abrahamic religions DO mark menstruation as a penalty for sins commited by Eve in the garden of Eden.
SirSamuelTheGreat ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 08:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
god really hates genitals....
Runixo ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 09:13:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, "Behave or I'll make your genitals bleed" is a great way to convince someone to act a certain way.
Sylphass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:57:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess He didn't anticipate IUDs. What a great loophole.
marma-lady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And thus, the hymen was created.
beaker90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too bad it didn't work.
GadgetTR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tbf he didn't tell her the punishment until after she ate the fruit
ZypherMyth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think of it more like this. Birth in humans is generally more painful than with other mammals because 1) our heads are incredibly large from birth compared to the size of the pelvis and 2) our hips rotated differently from most other animals to help us walk upright further complication birth that uses basically the same structures.
I like to think of it more as Eve crying out in pain giving birth and god saying, "uhhh, I meant to do that..."
HarshWarhammerCritic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay but that's irrelevant. Penalty =/= cause of penalty.
cpt_pancreas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:47:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda weird given sections of the Bible do specifically mark menstruation as a period in which women are impure and unclean.
CameToComplain_v4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you read the whole passage in the source link, he talks about that as well. He argues that ritual impurity under Jewish law is not the same thing as sin, since you can become "unclean" by doing things that God definitely likes (e.g. sex within marriage for the purposes of procreation).
iamaravis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:20:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leviticus 15:30: the menstruating woman has to go to the priest to make a "sin offering" because of her "impure discharge".
CameToComplain_v4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The offering is not for normal menstrual flows, but for abnormally long bleeding ("if it run beyond the time of her separation") or bleeding out of sync with her menstrual cycle ("many days out of the time of her separation"), i.e. bleeding associated with disease.
EDIT: Also, some translations have it as "purification offering" rather than "sin offering", but my scholarship doesn't run deep enough to tell you who's right on that point.
ON3i11 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 08:07:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even for a native English speaker that quote is very hard to understand because it uses very old forms of grammar that can be confusing for any one who isn't used to reading very old English.
Think about how Shakespeare plays "sound funny".
Chief_of_Achnacarry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually don't have that much trouble understanding Shakespearian English though. Sure, it sounds funny compared to contemporary English, but the way he goes about expressing things is still relatively modern. It's the texts that are translated from ancient languages like Latin and Greek that get me.
vonlowe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shakespearean English is about as far back as modern speakers can understand
nicedayfora ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:34:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Native English speaker here. I too am confused.
dankvtec ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:12:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because it was written in North Africa about 1500 years ago by a Churchy guy
CameToComplain_v4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...in Latin. And then translated into English in the 1870s.
dankvtec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:00:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was surprised when I learned that Augustine was from North Africa and was a white guy, then I learned about how the Islamic empires expanded.
Pufflekun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like reading something written by Shakespeare's slightly retarded cousin.
xmigo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:53:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a native English (US) speaker, props for using "wicked smaht" correctly!
ZypherMyth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really old syntax. It's kind of hard for a native English speaker to understand what he's saying is this:
"It's not a sin for nocturnal emissions to happen. If anyone thinks that it's a sin because of sinful lust then they're wrong. What? Do we also consider women's periods to be sins?"
guntermench43 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:00:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could've just said god made it that way.
UrethraX ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:34:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And your mothers story?
EDIT: or second fathers
daaaamngirl88 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are nocturnal emissions? Night farts?
ngwoo ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 06:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pollution from factories at night. It's especially bad because the sunlight isn't there to push the carbon dioxide back down so more of it enters the atmosphere.
almightySapling ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people old enough to use reddit ask what nocturnal emissions are, it makes me sad.
And then people respond like this and I think the world just might have a chance.
crshirley58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/shittyaskscience needs your help
ShenBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or ELICalvin
_some__guy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/shittyaskscience
TokeyWeedtooth ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:19:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wet dreams. Semen leaking out while you sleep.
daaaamngirl88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh...
akaFeefee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also thought it was farts. I've never heard the term before and associate emissions with gasses.
Tini_531 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wet dreams and ejaculation while sleeping.
fettman454j ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:22:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't tell that to /r/nofap.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I somehow feel sorry for him. I've read about a lady the other day who does sex ed for immigrants in Ireland. Before the class, they have the chance to anonymously hand in questions they have via a letterbox and I feel that this might be a good thing for a priest to do as well with very religious parishes. It's all good and well to know the medical background (which could be explained by the local doctor) but sexual issues might also benefit from getting a green light out of the scripture.
I hope this makes sense, I'm an ESL as well :D
unoriginal5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once heard an army chaplain say, and I quote, "Wet dreams are a gift from God." Because your body naturally seeks to mate, and builds up a pressure. As he explained it, a way dream is a divine release.
Jmanorama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:31:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a believing guy, the amount of stupidity cause of religion in this AMA is too damn high!
edgeblackbelt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope her told the guy to masturbate more.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha maybe if you weren't so god damned repressed you wouldn't be having wet dreams like a teenager :L)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a laugh at "Nocturnal emissions" my si/des
DocGerbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what type of emissions are we talking about here?
Epoch_Unreason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took me a minute to figure out what "nocturnal" emissions were...
FirstForFun44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So weird, I have never had a wet dream...
theottomaddox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometime you gotta take matters into your own hands. God might know what you're trying to pull, but like Shakespeare said "aye, there's the rub".
rozina076 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically couldn't you put a cock ring or something on at bedtime and have it go back up the urethra?
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:46:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cock rings delay orgasm but generally don't prevent ejaculation. Also, leaving one on for more than a half-hour can be dangerous and impair circulation.
rozina076 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stand corrected by you and wonderfulwordofweed. I kinda remembered a place on my ex-husband's penis that if I pressed it when he came, it would not come out. It was oral sex, finished up with a handjob, so we both saw nothing come out. Never covered that in sex ed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you can induce retrograde ejaculation (into the bladder) by pressing the perineum (right behind the balls but in front of the taint) before and during ejaculation. But on his actual penis? I'm not sure how that would work unless you somehow clamped off the urethra. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_ejaculation
rozina076 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, maybe that's what I was doing but attributed it to a different finger. I thought it was the pressure on the underside near the base where the penis meets the body. I did have other fingers around his sack and probably pressed upward right behind the sac for leverage. Again, not something we learned from sex ed. We were both surprised the first time and tried a few different things before we could make it happen when we wanted.
wonderfulworldofweed ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Falling asleep with a cock ring on is like the worst thing you can do, might wake up with necrosis and have to get it chopped off
rozina076 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OOPS, I guess my sex education was lacking in a few areas too. Wouldn't want to hurt anybody.
iDoUFC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:05:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like where your head is at, but cock rings don't stop you from cumming. They are more for her pleasure!
rose-girl94 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:44:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah no not true
Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cock_ring
iDoUFC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Touchรฉ , but use one and you'll see . You will still nut !
rozina076 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't think they would stop a man from having an orgasm, just stop the semen from exiting the penis during orgasm. But as others have pointed out, it's a bad idea to leave anything restrictive on a penis for an extended period of time. They don't cover those type of things in sex ed.
markko79 ยท 6644 points ยท Posted at 22:25:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse here. Retired after 27 years on the job. The number of American 20-somethings that don't know if they're circumcised or not is surprisingly high. When one with urinary tract infection symptoms needs to give a specimen for testing, I ask, "Are you circumcised?" If not, I have to tell them to pull back the foreskin before peeing in the cup. The number of guys who have asked, "What's that?" is way too many. For the record, I can count the number who were uncircumcised on two hands.
wofo ยท 4308 points ยท Posted at 23:30:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a guy who I'm 99% sure was circumcised who thought that he was not because "circumcision is when you cut off the head of the penis." Yeah, no.
markko79 ยท 2778 points ยท Posted at 23:37:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked one patient who argued with me, "What do you think that brown ring around your dick is? A beauty mark? No. It's a scar."
Aperture_Kubi ยท 2266 points ยท Posted at 23:49:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, most people don't have the context for what a penis would normally look like.
I know I didn't for a long time. Wikipedia!
MrCatEater ยท 3462 points ยท Posted at 00:36:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm uncircumcised, this thread makes me feel like a fucking unicorn.
EDIT: Guys I'm European too, if you are going to say that it's common over here, 100 people have already said that.
re_Claire ยท 1548 points ยท Posted at 00:42:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Brit I'm baffled by it. Most people here are uncircumcised. I've only ever known two men who were.
[deleted] ยท 1015 points ยท Posted at 01:16:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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WannieTheSane ยท 420 points ยท Posted at 03:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son is 5 and my wife left the decision totally up to me. I'm circumcised.
I asked my doctor and he said there wasn't much reason to. There is some new evidence it can help prevent AIDS transferrence (but not by a lot, and not necessary with proper protection) and if boys don't clean well enough it can require surgery later.
He said most guys do it so their son will look like them. He asked "isn't it more important for him to look like the boys in the change room?" and told me that in the mid-sized Ontario town I live in (Kingston) it is very rare for a boy to be circumcised.
I was already leaning pretty far toward not doing it because I agonise over the <2% chance of disaster.
I didn't have him circumcised, btw.
craftasaurus ยท 373 points ยท Posted at 05:02:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had just had our son, and was waking up in severe pain as the anesthesia wore off. I heard a blood curdling scream from the next room that went on and on - it was a baby crying. It was so nerve wracking hearing the poor thing. When the nurse came in to check me I asked her what that was- she said it was the baby next door getting circumcised. That did it for me. Our kids are uncut.
TheHamCaptain ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 07:05:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why it is such a common thing to do in America. Can anyone explain please?
kungtotte ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 07:22:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was touted as an anti-masturbatory measure, that's what made it so prevalent among the general population in North America. Aside from the religious groups who practice it, I mean.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 09:12:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't it Mr Kellog, the cereal tycoon? He thought circumcision made masturbation less pleasurable. Correction, it was a Dr Kellogg, the rest of what I have written is correct. Google Kellogg and circumcision. Just to chuck in a thought. Is it possible that the American fixation with guns is because so many boys experienced genital mutilation at a very early age? After all the action of a semi-automatic pistol is awfully similar to that of an uncircumcised dick... Come on you trolls, I can take it!
moon--moon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:35:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This explains so much.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, the subject and possibilities for a thesis have always intrigued me.
PM_ME_SEXY-STUFF ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:11:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Children were originally circumcised for religious reasons, now most people in US do it because they've had it done to them, or so their child's penis will look "normal."
TheHamCaptain ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 07:16:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just anathema to me. Don't understand at all how it is considered normal practice. You chop a bit of your sons dick off, just to appease your desire to conform. Completely fucked up IMO. Unless there is a medical reason for it, it is male genital mutilation.
brokenboomerang ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:33:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The part that really bothers me too is the lack of anesthetics. Not only are you mutilating your kids genitals because it's more comfortable for you to do than teaching him how to wash it, but he has to feel every second of it.
So what of he won't remember it when he's older? What kind of a fucked up excuse is that to harm your child?
Rainuwastaken ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:57:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kinda torn on this part, myself. On the one hand, I absolutely see what you're saying. From a moral and logical standpoint, it's really hard to argue against hurting babies.
On the other hand, it's pretty hard to get outside my own viewpoint on the matter because I could not care less about my snipped dick. It's just a penis, and for all I care the doctor could have dropkicked me on my way out; the fact that I don't remember means it's something I spend zero percent of my day worrying about.
I mean, shit. If my mom decided to stamp me with a branding iron when I had come out, I'd probably consider that pretty weird but whatever, that was over a quarter-century ago.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Subjecting children to that pain likely leaves psychological marks, even if they can't remember it.
Sintek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any study showing the psychological differences between UC and C boys?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/moral-landscapes/201501/circumcision-s-psychological-damage
Looks like in fact there was quite some work done on it and it was generally not favorable for circumcision. (Haven't looked for counter pieces though)
Sintek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you read through that article very well. The "psychological effects on animal behavior" Interpreting how a 3 year old feels after being circumcised. And how people "feel" about being circumcised when they are preselected from a "movement" as feeling they did not have a choice is not a good study.
And saying that pre-adolescent and adolescent boy that are circumcised experience PTSD are absolutely correct, but that is not the case in 99% of the circumcisions, Most are infant. if I was 8 years old and got circumcised you BET I would have PSTD
And the feeling of boys that HAD hypospadias then got surgery does not count, did they compare those finding again say children who had the same feeling when they had cleft lips? no, this study has sooo many holes in it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just linked the article to show that indeed, there has been studies done about it.
The problem is that finding a sufficently large amount of participants for such a study that accounts for all sorts other influence, while also manageing to account for locker room problems to weed that bias out propably leaves you with a required sample size in the millions.
However there are well established links between infants being subjected to pain and later psychological problems.
Sintek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could understand a constant and consistent severe pain for an infant causing psychological issue later on, but not a 20 minute minor surgical procedure. like say being crushed through a vagina is probably painful and traumatic for an infant, but no one is studying that and saying lets all get c-sections.
Im only playing devil advocate hear and trying to be unbiased. It seem like every study there is, is from some anti circumcision group or funded by one and is right off the bat against it and grabbing at anything that they can twist and manipulate people who don't read the full article into believing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The formation of scar tissue that exists for life strongly implies that the wound isn't healed immediately and wound healing often comes with more pain.
frozenHelen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you could care less, then just leave the decision up to the boy when he gets older. It's his dick, after all.
Sergeant_Steve ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 09:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw a discussion about this on a UK Newspaper Article that the paper shared on Facebook. Someone made this point and I agreed in my head, the amount of people who shot that person down was unbelieveable. Mostly women too. All basically saying it's nothing like FGM because it's basically just a bit of skin compared to having your clitoris cut off entirely, being sewn shut and having to be cut open again to pee and later in life have sex. Regardless of the damage it can cause physically, it's still mutilating genitals so it's still Male Genital Mutilation in my eyes even if it's not as dangerous as FGM.
TheHamCaptain ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 09:19:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I couldn't agree more with what you just said. It's not a competition of mutilation or who experiences more pain top trumps. FGM may well be more horrific but male circumcision is still mutilation as you say. The difference is that male circumcision is a practice mainly performed by "civilised" nations.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:42:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheHamCaptain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:03:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that I know of...
TaffyGoat ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:20:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Cutting off a member is absolutely horrible. So is cutting off the skin around the member. I don't understand why it gets turned into a pissing contest when we just need to push for people to stop mutilating babies.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:12:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sintek ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im sorry but NO. Standard FGM is to partially or fully remove the clitoris, which is NOT the same or nearly the same as circumcision. If males had the same level of GM the females had they would be chopping off the head of the penis and smoothing to the contour of the rest of the shaft.
MGM to a female would be like shortening Long Labia that stuck out too far.
AndrogynousHobo ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:26:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
agreed. People are like sheep. I never understood it.
[deleted] ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 09:16:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did it for my son because it's less likely he will get an infection or uti being circumcised. I'm glad I did it, he's almost ten and still can't wipe his ass right.
TheHamCaptain ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 09:43:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand though. Unless there is a pre existing medical condition, there shouldn't be any reason to remove it. That's like ripping your toenails off just in case they get fungal infections in the future. If you clean properly then infections shouldn't be any more likely.
Also, the head of the penis must get incredibly dry and lose some of the feeling over time. Although I wouldn't know, does it?
Ultimately - the foreskin is there for a reason. Why get rid of it if it's causing no discomfort or harm?
i_think_im_lying ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 09:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree to not circumcise but "the foreskin is there for a reason" is not a good argument. Many things in the human body are kinda useless or not really needed.
TheHamCaptain ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 09:58:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree - there are parts of human anatomy that are redundant. However the foreskin is there for a reason.
http://www.circumstitions.com/Functions.html
StotallyTonedGuy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:39:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goin through, readin along. Just reading, then BOOM. Store your contact lenses, keys, and drugs inside your foreskin. How convenient
TheHamCaptain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that made me laugh. Like a little warm pocket for your drugs. Keys though? Can't imagine that being too pleasant.
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:03 on June 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats what the asshole is for
i_think_im_lying ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 09:59:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't missunderstand me I am well aware of that. It's just saying "it's there for a reason" without saying what the reasons are is kinda useless.
TheHamCaptain ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:10:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, I assumed (probably incorrectly) that people were well aware of the benefits of having a foreskin. Hence my utter confusion as to why people feel the need to remove it.
DaddyRocka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know the benefits of having a foreskin, as I am circumcised. Also, the head does not dry out and lose feeling.
DarwinsFather ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have almost twice as many nerve endings thanks to not being mutilated. Women love how sensitive I am. I do too. Thanks mom!
ouaisoauis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:34:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
think less of your apendix and more of your eyelids
moon--moon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:43:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, fun fact about this. I believe it's a nerve that has grown around an artery, so it makes a little detour in the human neck. It's not really an issue as it's just a small detour. In fact, it happened very early on in evolution, and this detour is present in many animals. Including the giraffe, which has a very long neck, in which the detour is no longer small, and is huge and completely and utterly useless.
Found it.
Wikipedia article.
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 13:44:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can down vote me all day long lol, couldn't care less. I'd do it again. I asked his dad and my current husband what they would prefer. They are both happy they got circumcised. I don't want my son to have to deal with having a penis that looks different then boys in his locker room. I don't want him having to 'prepare' his romantic lady friend before something happens, and I don't want him to have to take extra care of his parts his entire life.
I'm an escort, (see comment history) I absolutely hate when I get a client that hasn't been circumcised. 100% of the time when I pull back the skin it smells. It's GROSS. The man can be perfectly normal and clean otherwise, you can't help that shit from stinking.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:51:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheHamCaptain ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and let's be honest the kind of guy going to an escort that's already been filled with 4 or 5 loads that day isn't the kind that bothers too much about washing his dick.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:00:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If course I have lol, what's that got to do with anything?
TheHamCaptain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:58:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are so many things that are wrong this post that I don't even know where to begin. So I'm not going to. Let's just agree to disagree.
EvilSJW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:31 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I don't want my son to have to deal with having a penis that looks different then boys in his locker room"
I mean...I'm no expert on teenage boys but do they really spend a ton of time examining the genitals of other boys around them?
"I don't want him having to 'prepare' his romantic lady friend before something happens"
lmfao this is such a stupid statement. If she's old enough to have sex she's old enough to hear "oh, that's just my foreskin".
"I absolutely hate when I get a client that hasn't been circumcised."
....Not to stereotype here, but I'd assume dudes who are hiring an escort don't give much thought into cleaning their genitals to make a positive impression. Cleaning your dick takes like a minute at the longest.
Cyberspark939 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We were made in God's image, but fucking lop that shit off, that's nasty"
SirAwesomeBalls ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:50:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true; religious circumcision was never widespread in the US outside of the Jewish community. Circumcision was made popular as a means to reduce male masturbation. Today it is mainly done because it is a
multi-billion dollar a year business.[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:13:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for speaking the truth.
OneSoggyBiscuit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:06:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Millions perhaps, but I doubt billions.
SirAwesomeBalls ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is about 2.2 million boys born each year, US circumcision rate is about 40% now (Thankfully it is going down).
which means about 880k male infants are circumcised each year. The average cost per circumcision is $1200, which is $1,056,000,000 per year.
So it is a Billion dollar a year industry... not multi.
Organak ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:22:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I am surprised the rate is so low. It is very good to see.
It doesn't make much sense seeing so many scarred up doodles out there.
A good statistic.
Rootriver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:07 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1200$ o.O That is bat shit crazy, why not just put the money to the crazy tuition fees?
Do you get to keep the skin at least?
SirAwesomeBalls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:22 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heh.. here is the best part. The hospitals charge a biohazard disposal fee, keep the forskin, and then sell them to stem cell research facilities for a pretty steep price.
So when you see resistance in the US to stopping male ritual genital mutilation; now you know why. There are billions of dollars in play. The healthcare industry, which is mainly for profit corporations now, and medical research corporations (for profit), all make a ton of money off of the practice. It is a solid revenue stream to every hospital and pediatric doctor group in the county.
Rootriver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:52 on June 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So sad, they could have made a pouch of the foreskin. Then you could have used it to store an engagement ring in the future or something. Or your first tooth or something.
OneSoggyBiscuit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a bit misleading.
SirAwesomeBalls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:42:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how is it misleading?
Bottompressure34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's untrue. The catholic community in North America, especially Canada practiced circumcision. Most Catholics would have celebrated The Feast of the Circumcision as well......
PM_ME_SEXY-STUFF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure most people circumcise now because of misleading information, like it keeps your penis clean, and prevents diseases. Although I did forget about the anti-masturbation part of circumcision, thanks for mentioning that.
beltorak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:48:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
other's have answered, but I may as well add a cool video about it.
TheHamCaptain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do I really want to watch this?
proweruser ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:09:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just Adam ruins everything. He usually gives a pretty good overview.
Here he is slightly wrong on the reduced HIV transmission for circumcised men (those studies are bogus) and he fails to mention that circumcision is now an extremely profitable industry.
OneSoggyBiscuit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:02:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a good interesting video, but I personally don't like "Adam ruins everything"
Organak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to like him. It is like a revamped Penn and Teller's show 'B.S.', which was fantastic.
But I cannot.
Risking of offending the Supreme Rulers of reddit, I would say his face is punchable.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:45 on February 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well...that's the point, isn't it? It's also a very common trope within the show that his friends hate him for that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I was right first time... ...
queefiest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:52:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently it was widely thought to be more hygienic and (supposedly) makes it harder to contract AIDS. Most of the moms I've spoken to - in Canada at least - have said they aren't/have not had their sons circumcised, so I feel it's a dying trend from a less educated time.
TheHamCaptain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet Americans seem to still be practising circumcisers.
Russelsteapot42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a bunch of other stuff, but what it really comes down to is that Americans are especially ready to defend decisions that they have already made so they don't feel guilty about them, and American parents are just not ready to consider the idea that most of them have mutilated their newborn children for inadequate reasons.
TheHamCaptain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best answer I've seen.
Sinai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These replies about puritanism of various strains are not accurate. What happened was that the medical establishment adopted it as a prophylactic measure against disease. By the time they realized it had little to no science backing up the proposed disease reduction, it was ingrained in US culture and has been slow to decline.
cardinal29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't go against the circle jerk with your facts!/s
craftasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:01 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was not common in the generations before WWII. It became common afterwards, it was considered to be more hygienic (especially for the women, as there was some kind of disease women could get from men that didn't have good hygiene ( I forget what it was called). The boomer generation may have been the first to be routinely circumcised, and the trend continued. By the 90s the medical community were not routinely recommending it anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really sure, but when my son was born 3 years ago, the doc said they pretty much do it by default now due to hygeneic reasons.
TheHamCaptain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Due to hygienic reasons. What a load of horse shit. What about just washing correctly and frequently?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:14:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans are lazy...?
Piteraaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents explained to me the importance of washing and cleaning the body at a young age. I think when I was little I asked about my foreskin and both my parents explained how I was to clean that part.
Just pull back and wash. After urination, fucking carefully wipe with toliet paper. It's not rocket science lol.
PerodicallySarcastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over zealous christians in the early years of our country believed that it would stop kids from pleasuring themselves. (It didn't work) but it became such common practice that it just kinda stuck.
trex694 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/gCSWbTv3hng
Sp99nHead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:58:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jews
Bottompressure34 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:30:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A doctor said this to me when I asked "if you have ever cleaned cottage cheese out of an old mans dick, you wouldn't think twice about having your son circumcised"
EvilSJW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:40 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of logic is that? Some old people don't have the capacity to wash certain things so you should mutilate your child's genitals for something that might happen 80 years in the future??
Halikarz31 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:07:47 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it's the porn industry and media what not, but circumcision is just seen as cleaner and more normal. Like I think a dick not circumcised is gross, however I am a guy with it done. So I am sure if I hadn't my opinion would be different. I have talked to some friends though who never got it done, and they regret it, because the way it looks. So idk
TheStoicBuddhist ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 08:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't blame you. A man can go get circumcised whenever he wants. Getting it undone is bit harder though.
kefefs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. It's really hard to get that silly putty to stay on.
Killa-Byte ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:17:08 on June 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better to do it as a baby. Adult circumcision is traumatic and painful.
Why fuss over having an uncut dick if its already been cut?
ThisPlaceisHell ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:50:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay, he will have no recollection of the event so technically there was no suffering to be had.
/s
hitlerallyliteral ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:20:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I like to channel my psychopathic urges by torturing babies. It's technically morally neutral
craftasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:26 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what the medical professionals believed, and told me. But that poor baby! I know you're being sarcastic... but I can still hear that baby in my mind. I can't believe that the drs are so out of touch with reality that they can perform those procedures and still believe they are not causing suffering.
Morpheusthequiet ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:07:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, I kind of agree with that without the /s
Care to change my view?
out_for_blood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:31:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It lowers pain tolerance for life, for one thing. Also many people who have been through severe trauma of some sort as an adult don't remember it- does that mean they didn't/don't suffer?
Morpheusthequiet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not in favor of circumcisions myself, to be honest. But on the side of trauma not remembered, I wonder.
my circumcision was before I gained control of my mind, which happened when I was three. I suffered for not a second before, because I did not exist as a conciousness before I was three.
So from personal experience, I feel like there's a huge gap where the body's ringing the bell, but there's nobody in there to answer the door, to put it in the simplest terms for me. I would say suffering does not occur.
hitlerallyliteral ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:14:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so you'd be okay hurting a baby for no reason too, as long as it didn't do lasting harm?
Morpheusthequiet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it was my decision to make and it would make the kid's life better, yes.
Otherwise, I would say it's fine as long as we're not making the kid's life quantifiably worse by doing so.
TheStoicBuddhist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:07 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first part we can throw out because few people wouldn't hurt a baby in order to make the baby's life "better".
The second part is where I'm intrigued though. Let's say that there's no evidence that circumcision makes anyone's life "quantifiably worse" or quantifiably better. Now where are we? What about pinky toes? What about ear lobes? And what about animals w/o self-awareness? What about people w/o self-awareness?
You're against circumcision so I'm not even trying to argue that with you. I'm just thrown by the logic you employ when questioning the moral limits of causing suffering in a living thing that can experience suffering with or without the experience of "self".
Morpheusthequiet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:53 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Note, I'm not some psychopath hellbent on torturing things. But I will explain for you, as much as I can without sounding like an asshole.
Without that sense of self, there's nothing storing the experience. There may be pain, as the nervous system exists, but there's no memory or anything.
If I were somehow magically pulled out of my body, and someone tazed my body a few times, would I be suffering? Well... No. Not whatsoever. I might when I'm put back in, throwing up and massaging my muscles, but for any time I am somehow not present...
I don't believe non-sentient creatures can suffer. They might have a sense of pain, but without memory or some kind of change in long-term brain activity, it's just pain. I don't want to hurt things anyway, but morally, I think it's more about how much society frowns upon inflicting pain.
I mean, if we could give earlobes a purpose or make pinky toes better for balancing, why not? I see nothing ethically wrong there. I also kind of don't understand the question, i might have to reread this thread.
There's a strange and invisible line I've been forgetting to note in my other comments, which is that any pain caused to something non-sentient creatures is an ethical issue if it causes brain chemistry to change. I'm kind of a hypocrite here because we can't tell how someone's brain is permanently affected by these things, so I can't (ethically, there's my line) make decisions based off of any of this argument.
Hmm. You know how we have the turing test, to determine if a machine has self-awareness? I wonder if we have something like that for humans that tells us if someone is not. I'd feel sorry for that person.
TheStoicBuddhist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:04 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think what you mean (I could be wrong) is that you don't think that animals that can't reason can suffer. I would define sentience as the ability to experience sensations which animals obviously can do. I'm wondering where you would draw that line then.
What if you were electrocuted and were completely aware of it but just forgot about it 5/10 minutes later? You listed memory as a capacity to suffer. We know animals have memories and many have a limited sense of "physical self".
Why exactly is it only an ethical question if it causes brain chemistry to change? Are you suggesting it has to be "permanently effected"? If so we've moved beyond just pain.
We're starting to think that some people in comas feel pain. They wouldn't be able to have any degree of self awareness however.
moon--moon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I'm not a specialist in philosophy, isn't what you're referring to just self-awareness? I'm moderately sure I covered this in high-school philosophy lessons.
In that case, it would be fine to operate on most animals, including, say, the family dog, without anesthesia, because nobody's answering the door. However, there is also evidence that trauma like this can affect kids later in life. Apparently surgery was done on babies without anesthetic at one point, until they realised this.
Regardless, in this case, it's chopping off part of a dick for no real reason (due to past religious misconceptions). The kid's life is arguably worse because the parents can't be bothered to research why they're slicing parts off of the baby.
Morpheusthequiet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) yes, it was self awareness.
2) I could certainly understand that. I'd want to know more before I made a decision, but I'm inclined to agree there.
3) I'm not in favor of circumcisions. It's unnecessary. I'm with you there.
moon--moon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad we agree on all points then! Have a great day, stranger!
akaFeefee ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I found out I was having a boy I did a good amount of Internet research and read enough sad stories of babies being tortured that i decided to leave him uncut... so many stories...
photenth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair the internet isn't the best place to do medical research unless you read papers.
Raging_Dragon_99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a reason they typically don't do it in front of the parents. I think all parents should have to watch and hear what happens to a baby boy being circumsized.
dennisi01 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not saying anyone should or shouldn't have their son circumcised (I am, fwiw). My wife's nephew wasn't circumcised and kept getting infections downstairs due to lack of cleanliness, and had to be circumcised when he was 7. I am 36 and have memories back to being 5. That kid is going to remember that for the rest of his life. shudders
Paradox2063 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had it done when I was 18.
Instant regret until it healed. Now I'm much happier.
Course some people would have the opposite opinion, so it's literally impossible to know what the right call is.
But I think my penis looks better now, and I'm the only one who matters!
dennisi01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now it has a face and personality!
Paradox2063 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:01 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a top hat!
craftasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lack of cleanliness would be due to the parents not monitoring the kid's hygiene; unless he had some sort of malfunction of the foreskin or something, which made it difficult to clean. I know a guy that had that, and he got circumcised in the Navy because of it.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:13:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son slept through circumcision at 2 weeks. I needed to locate a doctor that would numb the area before cutting though. A lot don't see the need to numb the area, which baffled me. My ex husband thought I was being ridiculous, thankfully I have my own brain.
craftasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you. The docs at my hospital were not going to use any, which is torture, so I did not allow it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ChthonicIrrigation ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately this is a myth, they usually enter shock from the pain. There is no other place one could cut a child that people would say they 'don't feel a thing'. What you do to your children in this regard is commonly considered your choice and I'm not criticizing that.
CortanasOwner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:19:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair this myth is propagated by the ear piercing of small children as well. It's done because they "don't feel" it when mainly they just won't remember the pain.
MadDany94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was circumcised. Never really wondered why I needed it, thought it was a Christian thing.
Now I wonder, what would my life be like if I wasn't circumcised...
Twistednuke ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:08:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Outside of religious circles, it developed when people were convinced that masturbating caused disease, so they removed the foreskin in the hope it would stop people masturbating. It's shocking we still allow it to continue today, when it's essentially the male equivalent of FGM.
craftasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sons don't think anything about it.
[deleted] ยท -47 points ยท Posted at 05:47:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the baby doesn't remember it though.
edit: oh wow this was the wrong thread to be pragmatic(?) in
edit2: i am now getting nasty private messages from people that are saying mean things. i am just gonna delete this account and roll a new one. gg no re.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 06:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dont worry, beating your baby is 100% ok, the baby won't remember it!
xSARGEx117x ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 06:06:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roofie victims often don't remember anything either....
Doesn't make it okay.
Sperenc ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:31:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol that edit ๐
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:37:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah man i had no idea i'd trigger people so hard. maybe i should have put a question mark at the end since it was more of a question
Alpacauno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:49:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Ron Burgundy?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
basically
R-Guile ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:08:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, can't expect people to dislike discovering their parents mutilated their genitals because the pastor told them to. :/
I honestly don't have any sympathy. Pragmatic? That's fucking sociopathic.
dougall7042 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 06:33:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used to do surgery on babies without anesthesia following the same logic. Studies showed that this causes long term psychological trauma, even though they didn't remember. Unfortunately, general anesthesia for children under 5 causes developmental retardation; but we still find it's better than none at all
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what kind of surgery are we talking here?
Alpacauno ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:55:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately all types of surgery.
Plague_of_crocus ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:04:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it ok to cause brutal scarring pain to someone with amnesia?
Alpacauno ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:51:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't make it ok.
st0ric ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 06:48:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember but I am glad that it happened to me.
Alpacauno ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you gald? Have you read up on it and fully understand what it entails?
As a woman, I equate it to someone skinning my clit, and there is no way I would be ok with that. It's even worse than that because it removes function as well as nerves.
I wouldn't even like it if someone pierced my ears as a baby and that doesn't even remove a functional body part. I feel it's my body and it's not ok for anyone to modify it. Circumcision is really physically harmful to body.
worldspawn00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was not circumcised as a baby, ended up having foreskin issues and got circumcised at 13, would have rather it been done at birth and saved me a few years of trying to figure out what was wrong...
Alpacauno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:28:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the time foreskin issues come from the same misinformation that drives people to circumcise. Like the foreskin of a baby being retracted because parents think you need to clean under it. This will cause damage and issues later.
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:16:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct. A lot of parents are clueless...but many are wising up and leaving their son's alone...washing an intact penis on an infant is as simple as washing a fingertip.
out_for_blood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are the exception though, not the rule. If 100% of boys were circumcised, 95% would be needless. If you think your experience is a reason to circumcise all boys, I'd dare say that you would be being a bit solipsistic
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 07:49:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am circumsized. I am glad.
There are a few reasons for this.
1. Looks better
2. easier to clean, maintain
3. in my experience, from what I've heard, girls get more pleasure from circumsized penises.
droidballoon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:59:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not hard to clean when uncircumcised. It takes what, a half second longer, to roll up.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still harder and smeg is common.
proweruser ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:23:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is absolute bullshit. Do you even know men with intact penises? What do you think a penis is like, a chinese puzzle box? You pull back the foreskin, you wash with warm water, done.
For smegma to build you'd have to not clean your dick for weeks. It's certainly not common.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems you have a really in depth opinion on circumcision, and are very passionate about it. That's fine, but you're too angry to discuss this with, and just flat out deny any possible deficiencies with not being circumsized. So yeah, goodnight.
proweruser ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not angry. I'm annoyed. You clearly know nothing about how an intact penis works and yet you keep yapping. The only things you can cite are things you "heard", probably from people who haven't seen an intact penis in their entire life.
Actually talk to people who have a foreskin and/or have slept with people who have a foreskin. Then come back and maybe we can have a discussion based on facts and not on rumors that go around your circle of friends.
Bonus points if you do a trail and suck 10 intact and 10 circumcised dicks and report back your experience. :P
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, you don't really know if anything you're saying is true.
Forever_Awkward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:09 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, dude. That's deep. You got him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:29 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol. noted.
PLAAND ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:06:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm beginning to question your genital hygiene if you're this insistent you would have problems with smegma were you uncircumcised... Spoiler Alert: Your penis is still gross if you aren't washing regularly, circumcised or not.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you telling me you've never had smegma.
PLAAND ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that I can recall, so not since I was like 10 years old at least, and even then, it wouldn't have been a frequent thing.
Bathing, it's crazy...
droidballoon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow no I actually don't know anyone or through anecdotes who has had reoccurring smegma. It's to be completely ignorant towards personal hygiene (or medical conditions) to develop smegma.
PLAAND ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) Subjective. I'll allow that you think it looks better. I think circumcised penises look weird.
2) That's crazy talk, the cleaning and maintenance requirements of simply pulling back the foreskin and then washing as normal are vastly overstated.
3) In my limited experience no one has indicated to me a difference between the two. What is verifiably true is that masturbation is less pleasurable for you.
Paradox2063 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:45:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I chose to have it done at 18 for aesthetic reasons, I have not noticed a loss of pleasure. Feels about the same, just less... loose? Not really sure how to describe the change. Still, feelsgoodman.jpg
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 08:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for allowing it.
No, no matter what you say, it is easier to clean a circumsized penis. Also, smegma.
yeah, masturbation is worse for me. But it's still good, and again, girls seem to like circumsized dicks alot more.
PLAAND ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:56:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever tried? Also, I can't remember the last time I even thought of the word smegma, let alone had to deal with it.
In my experience that hasn't been the case, I haven't seen a preference for one or the other. But that may be cultural, or just my luck. But I guess my question is how are you so sure? Have you ever tried having sex using an uncircumcised penis?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well first off, I haven't once indicated that girls enjoy circumsized penises 100% more than uncircumsized. I said that this is what I have heard from all of my female friends who I've been in this discussion with.
And how are you so sure that it isn't better?
Honestly, this is all a bit ridiculous. I voiced my opinion and it seems all of you are way to insecure to just accept that mine is dofferent from yours.
PLAAND ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What you've indicated, repeatedly, and in multiple places is that your experience is valid, while other people's experiences are not.
Among others.
Read my comments again. All I've done is challenge the idea that your experience and opinion are universally true. You're the one who's treated their opinion and preconceptions as prescriptive fact. I don't think anyone here has said something like "In my experience girls get more pleasure from intact penises." just that in our experiences, both as receptive and insertive partners throughout this thread, there's not much difference.
Emphasis Mine
I, though I can't speak for others, am not attacking you or your penis. I'm sure it's a fine penis. All I'm doing trying to show that having an intact penis isn't deficient, "disgusting", or the devil.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm way over this but I have to say that when I said that those people "had no right to make that claim" or whatever, it was because they were making claims that warranted my response. Did you bother looking into that?
Also, not once did I say my opinion is universally true. This all started with me voicing my opinion and everybody getting very insecure about it.
You're serioulsy putting words into my mouth here.
PLAAND ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't explicitly say "My opinion is the only valid one!" What you did was aggressively shoot down every single person who presented an experience that didn't agree with yours. You insisted to people with intact foreskins that their penises were unhygienic and had smegma problems, even though those very same people were telling you that isn't the case.
You insisted that women in your experience had a preference for circumcised penises, and used that to disregard the experiences of others, including some women who have found that no such preference exists.
You did not have to "say" that your opinion is universally true. That's what you "indicated" through your behaviour.
Don't you think there's room here for circumcised vs. intact to be one of those issues where one is not better than the other? Can't all our penises just be nice on their own merits, rather than insisting that other people's bodies are "disgusting" because they aren't like yours?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need better reading comprehension skills. None of what you are saying is true, at all. And quite frankly I'm disgusted with all these accusations. How old are you? That may explain some things.
PLAAND ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Emphasis Added
-You
I'm inclined to believe that you're a troll, but based on your posting history this doesn't seem like a troll account. If you really think you're blameless in all this, and a victim of baseless accusations, I suggest you re-read what you've posted and do an honest self-assessment. You've been acting like a bully, and shaming people for how their bodies look. That's not to say that other people haven't been unfair to you, some of them have, but that's not what we're talking about right now.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the "foreskin is ugly bro" was me trolling. Because I thought it was quite funny how insecure all these people are. The "In Canada, foreskin is disgusting" was an exaggeration but it's still true to an extent.
Everything else is perfectly reasonable. They're just arguments for why I am glad I'm circumsized. Which was the reason I posted in the first place. But apparently I'm not allowed to be glad that I'm circumsized.
Yeah, you think? Everything I'm saying pales in comparison to what these people have been saying to me.
Humpfinger ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:58:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the circlejerk you americans have:
1: pure absolute bullshit, you are mutilated, you just THINK you look better because you want to believe you do.
2: in this day and age, the half a second it's faster for you is hilariously inbalanced next to some ''national mutilate your child's dick'' contest
3: like I said, you WANT to think that because you want to secure yourself that it is a good thing.
Sorry but its's just obnoxious to see people make excuses for this absurd practice.
Paradox2063 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:43:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yo, I chose to have it done at 18 and much prefer the way it looks now.
I preferred them cut in the porn I watched, I prefer mine cut to before I had the procedure done.
That's the only point of yours I disagree with. Some people think it looks better cut, and that's ok.
Humpfinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point, if you have had both and still prefer this, I obviously have no right to tell you what you should like better :)
Paradox2063 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My only regret was having to suffer through the recovery. Hoo boy was that intense.
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 08:11:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You serious?
1. MY opinion (and literally everybody else's where I'm from). Don't try to invalidate it by projecting I have some deep lying insecurity about the look of my penis. Are you kidding? That's crazy talk, dude.
1 word. Smegma. Thank god I don't have to deal with that.
Like I said, absolutely ridiculous. You don't know anything about me, It boggles my mind to see you projecting your opinion on me and so adamantly believing that I agree with it deep down or some shit.
Christ.
proweruser ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:20:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I for one like sucking intact cock more, than circumcised cock, but I guess it's a matter of taste.
Were both your hands amputated, too? How hard can it be to pull back your foreskin while you wash your dick?
I have a lot of female friends and none of them have ever said anything like that. So I'd guess it was something a girl said to make a guy feel more special, but isn't even remotely true in reality.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:23:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard uncircumsized penises can leave a funny taste in the mouth.
Smegma. It seems alot of people have trouble washing their penis.
I'm afraid you have no right to make this claim.
Alpacauno ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:42:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way a grown adult could have trouble washing their penis is if they also couldn't wipe their own drool.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to all the people who have to deal with smegma.
proweruser ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any sources aside from the voices in your head?
If a grown man can't wash his penis, we'll also have to sew up his anus and attach a colostomy bag, because he won't be able to wipe his ass.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. What about you?
Being condescending isn't working out for you. I guess in the end we will have to settle with all of this being down to opinion.
Alpacauno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:18:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks scarred. Seeing the scaring of my BF's dick makes me feel bad that he had to go through that.
All you have to do is pull your foreskin back for a second in the shower.
No. Women don't really get much physical pleasure from actual intercourse anyway. Defiantly not saying it's bad or not enjoyable, but a woman's pleasure is really all about the clit. Sex with clitoral stimulation and without is worlds apart. The vaginal canal isn't similar to an inverted penis. With a dick a guy can feel the whole length and its covered in those special sex nerves. For women only the first couple inches have any sort of feeling that matters. Pretty much the only thing that matters to stimulate these nerves is girth. I've never been with an uncut guy, but I've talked to people who have. One girl said she didn't notice a difference, but they always used a condom. Another girl who had experience with condom-less intact sex, said she liked it because there was less friction, but she noticed a difference mostly when at first. Once she got wet enough there wasn't much difference. A gay guy who would go sans condom said the foreskin created a nice gliding motion and he had a strong preference for uncut.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alpacauno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:37:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1.Its not just the line, but also keratinization and adhesions.
You know what also gathers smegma? The folds of a vulva. It's normal and removed with basic hygiene.
Women have told you this?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TheStoicBuddhist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:36 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3 - Wait I thought you said you were circumcised.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:43:37 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am indeed
R-Guile ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:05:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember and I'm constantly angry that my parents cut off part of my body for reasons any rational adult should be shamed for.
worldspawn00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had mine till I was a teen, had it removed for medical reasons. Really, you're not missing out on much, I much prefer to be circumcised than to not.
proweruser ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:27:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not fair to compare a foreskin that works well with one that is too tight (I would guess that was the medical reason). The later will only hurt when you get an erection and not serve it's usual functions.
R-Guile ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:23:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer to decide which parts of my body to remove.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're mad simply because you didn't get to make the decision whether or not you were to be circumsized.
Humpfinger ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:59:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.....Yes! and he has good right to!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it strange that he's mad simply because of that, and not because he doesn't like being corcumsized/everybody else isn't circumsized etc.
Probable_Human ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:06:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He never said he wasn't mad about those things as well, but fact of the matter is that a person should be upset about being mutilated at birth at someone else's discretion.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:17:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I "should" align my opinion with yours, eh? Bullshit. That's not a fact, dude. Please search up the definition of fact.
I'm glad my parents decided to have me circumsized, the fact that you think I should be absolutely livid does not change that.
Probable_Human ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Allow me to rephrase that to definitely has a right to be upset with the people that chopped the end of his dick off without his permission.
I guess it's a cultural thing but from where I sit in Europe, the practice disgusts me frankly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I sit in Canada, foreskin is disgusting.
To each their own.
Probable_Human ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:31:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Without meaning to be disrespectful...
How is that even remotely equal? That the North American culture has people thinking that a part of the male body is anything but perfectly normal quite frankly shouldn't have any bearing on the decision to literally cut the end of infant childrens pricks off. I mean seriously, how does that even remotely equate?
None of the penis is a particularly visually appealing organ but there's nothing innately wrong with the foreskin and it actualy has a decent amount of function that I wouldn't want to be without.
I just don't understand how this is the prevailing opinion across the pond. I simply do not understand.
Actually on "to each their own". I may be stepping out of line here but that works when discussing what flavour ice cream is best, not what you're chopping a part of a person's body off without even a hint of thought as to whether that might end up affecting them down the line.
PLAAND ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To chime in, I'm Canadian as well, and maybe I don't spend enough time with other people's penises, but he's definitely overstating the universal disdain for uncircumcised penises in Canada. My foreskin has been completely unremarkable for every person I've had sex with so far.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where in Canada.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've presented my arguements for why I enjoy being circumsized. And vice versa. It is clearly a matter of opinion... if you can't simply grasp that I'm not going to eventually agree with you... I'm sorry.
Believe it or not, there are arguments for both. Accept that and then move on.
R-Guile ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:43:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I had problems. I guess there's more than one way to be an insensitive prick.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh... what?
poppunkalive ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:55:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I beat the shit outta someone then drug em so they forget it it was still an awful thing to do
weretomato ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So can I stab you repeatedly, as long as you don't remember afterwards? Cool!
DefenestratorOfSouls ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:20:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm honestly not sure you know what pragmatic means.
Letscurlbrah ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:59:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry about your mangled dick bro.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uncircumsized dicks are much uglier
Humpfinger ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:01:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yhe buddy, keep lying to yourself.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not. Foreskin is ugly bro.
YouveJustBeenShafted ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:39:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Says the one with a mutilated dick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How insecure are you?
craftasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check out Michaelangelo's David. It's one of the most beautiful sculptures in the world.
dankvtec ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 07:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't most girls prefer a circumcised dick to one that isn't?
Humpfinger ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in America, and that is because it's become some weird culture thing...
dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ancient Greeks thought small penises were better, who's to say who's got a weird dick and who doesn't? Maybe mushroom dicks will be in style next year. (hopefully not)
Paradox2063 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're so weird!
craftasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sons say no. It's more how you move ;)
rhyspar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:29:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an unnecessary surgery on an infant, that causes them pain and has risks. Sure the baby doesn't remember the trauma but ergh, Google how circumcision actually works and the thought of signing up a baby for it will disturb you greatly.
Source: accidentally saw diagram of surgery and pictures of it. Never again.
Edven971 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The baby doesn't remember it, lol have to agree
turtlecb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure why you're being downvoted, it's a valid point. The long-term emotional toll from getting a curcumcision is next to none, unless the surgey went wrong somehow.
Edit: Just noticed the shitstorm of angry replies you got, they're pretty depressing to read. Get your shit together reddit, they weren't saying it's ok to kick babies because "lol they'll forget about it later".
Reading comprehension, people. You're making your 3rd grade English teacher cry.
PLAAND ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, how about this, would you poke a baby with a sewing needle, say, in the foot, just deep enough to draw blood? The baby won't remember, and unlike some other examples given here, it's effectively harmless in the long term. Arguably even less harmful than circumcision but medically, equally unjustified. Would you do it?
That's the point you seem to be missing, that there's no medical justification for most infant circumcision, it is a cosmetic procedure that causes pain to living creature that cannot consent. It's like stabbing a baby with a sewing needle, and baseless ideas about vanity, tradition and 'cleanliness' are used to mask its equivalent pointlessness.
TheStoicBuddhist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:39 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think everyone commenting in support of this comment is glossing over the whole, "unless the surgey went wrong somehow," line. Why roll the dice with your child's genitals?
In 2007 in Ontario a child died from sepsis from complications from a circumcision. It's extraordinarily rare but if a doctor at the hospital told you that he wanted to give your kid a pill that had a 1:1,000,000,000 chance of killing him but would make his hair healthy and thick I don't think you'd risk it.
Not to mention just other complications. They did 5 year survey at Massachusetts General Hospital (2010) and found that 7.4% of all pediatric urology visits were for circumcision complications.
If your son lost his penis I doubt he'd find much consolation in the fact that his father is weirdly picky about penises.
tpbvirus ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:19:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean is this not true. I was circumcised when I was an infant, and I dont remember shit about it. Nothing, nada, not even the pain. My dad on the other hand was circumcised when he was 10, and that shit to him was vivid. He recalls every detail of it.
So yes, if you want your baby circumcised, please do it when they're younger. Like ages 0-3. Sure it'll be hard to watch, but they really aren't going to remember jack shit about it.
Poopyoo ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:02:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as much as i wouldnt cut part of my kids dick off if i had a kid, you're still 100% correct unless the kid has some freak memory
[deleted] ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 05:15:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have a friend that bragged to me about getting her son circumcised. Like she had somehow cheated the system because "I just don't want to have to clean it for him".
What a shithead. I wanted to slap that smug look off her face. We aren't friends anymore.
cpt_pancreas ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:00:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except by the age it actually needs anything doing with it different to any other dick I'd be pretty creeped out if she was cleaning her son's dick. Isn't it literally fused to the head until nearly puberty?;
kikellea ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people don't realize it's supposed to be fused, though. Like, even doctors use that excuse to circumcise instead of medical treatment first... If treatment is even needed at all.
A lot of women don't realize penises rarely get infections, either, which is ignorance of basic anatomy. (Go biology classes, you're doing great!) And/or they're too lazy or scared to teach their sons proper hygiene, I guess.
soliloquy93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:56:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Midwife here: yes, it is.
aonome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:23 on January 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes and a lot of American doctors don't know this so they tell parents to forcibly retract it, causing scar tissue to form. The child then gets phimosis because of this and the doctors and parents think "see, all these uncut kids have phimosis, circumcision should be routine!" Totally oblivious to the fact that they have induced phimosis in the child. It's fucking tragic.
LotesLost ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:59:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aftercare for a newborns circumcised penis is so much more work than left intact. Is it easier to care for a finger or an open wound.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say she was right. That was her reasoning. Unless it was actually medically needed, I couldn't care less why she thought it was a good idea. Unless it's a necessary procedure for whatever reason, it's just genital mutilation.
Alpacauno ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 05:59:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never understood these arguments for circumcision.
I never knew my dad and I'm a woman, but I'm pretty sure it isn't normal for dads to show their sons their dick.
In the girls locker room it was keep your eyes to yourself and get in and out of clothes as quick as possible. Zero inspection of each others junk. Plus couldn't you just keep your underwear on? Why would another kid care about your dick anyway?
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:44:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a shame cause you missed out on some key moments with your dad, the weekly dick comparisons. Did everyone else whose circumcised do this too?
Alpacauno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:48:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's always penis inspection day.
Forte_Kole ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:05:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids are curious creatures & it is common for them to bathe with their parents. Kids are going to look & compare themselves. I know I did as a child. You probably did, too. It happens.
Alpacauno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:23:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still don't see how that's justification for circumcision.
If they notice they are different and ask then you explain it to them like you would any other curious question.
Forte_Kole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was never addressing your issue with circumcision. I am personally against it in all cases barring a medical reason.
What I was addressing is the fact that children compare themselves with other people, both their peers & to their parental figures. Your original comment doesn't seem to acknowledge that children are curious creatures that are exploring their world.
TheHamCaptain ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:08:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a case of "showing your kids your dick"
Kids are inquisitive, and a dick is just another part of your body. How are you supposed to teach your son how to piss on his own if he can't look at your dick? It's part of growing up and a completely innocent and necessary one.
shocketteruby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:15:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do sons of single mothers learn to pee on their own?
TheHamCaptain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, if you look above ^
"Ok, I accept there are many methods for teaching your son to piss"
moon--moon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't. They have to hold it in. Forever.
Alpacauno ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:19:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you serious?
Women do this everyday. Generally you get them used to going on those little kid potties while sitting. When it comes to standing throw some fruit loops in the bowl and tell him to aim for them. If he can't handle that then start target practice in the tub. There are also cartoons and books to aid.
TheHamCaptain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:28:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I accept there are many methods for teaching your son to piss. But if my son walks in the bathroom while I'm having a piss I wouldn't tell him to get out or act like there's anything wrong with that. Like I said, kids are inquisitive.
Also, the having a piss scenario was just an example. I have had many baths with my kids and see that as completely normal, I had baths with both my mum and dad when I was little and it did me no harm.
Edit: I would also like to say in response to your comment, that men also do this every day. I have two sons that I have successfully potty trained. It's not just women that do this shit you know.
MysticPrideWorldwide ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, don't show your kids your dick. The fuck is wrong with you?
TheHamCaptain ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:00:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between showing your kids your dick and not hiding it from them. To be honest, if you think this is wrong then what the fuck is wrong with you?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not show it, but your kid is definitely going to see your genitals and ask questions at some point. I don't know how protective of their bodies parents are in the USA but it would be really weird if a kid had not seen their parents naked in Finland.
Harstad89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha first off, ya you have to show your son how to pee soo you kind of show by example. Unless you want a piss covered floor.
Second obviously you haven't been to an American highschool. Kids are mean, I remember one uncircumcised kid in our school got ridiculed for 4 years. Maybe it's selfish but I would never put my boy through that.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:20:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am glad things landed on the "natural" side but what kind of fucking medical doctor promotes a procedure (or lack of said procedure) on cosmetics. This dip shit logic is usually reserved for the doctors who push circumcision. The answer is easy...you can't un-circumcise so it is best to leave it alone and let the person decide to do it when they are able to (hint : No one does! ) :)
itsjeffvader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely agreed, however;
Some people choose to do it later.
I chose to have mine done as a teen as I was having issues with retraction. It certainly wasn't a fun procedure and it'd be nice if it was done as a baby where I didn't remember it... Although I suppose my parents couldn't foresee the need when I was a baby so thats cool.
I had a choice to try alternative treatments (IIRC a topical steroid was suggested as an option) but lopping it off seemed better overall to me, so thats what we did.
annihilatron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so was I and I had a mix of the topical steroid and a frenuloplasty. easy surgery, easy recovery. Local anesthetic, walked out of the hospital 3h later with a few stitches, 3 week recovery with some beautiful oxytocin.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leave it to Reddit to find the ONE guy that actually needs it medically :) You are the poster boy of how lots of Dr's sell it.
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the record, my doctor was actually against circumcision. He was stating that most guys want their son circumcised mainly because they are circumcised.
He thought that was a stupid argument, but his counter-stupid argument, was the thing about the locker room. It was his way of saying "don't circumcise" and give almost the same argument back to them that they use for pro circumcision.
PornCartel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:36:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait there's a nearly 2% chance that something will go wrong during circumcision? That's really fucking high!
WannieTheSane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, someone else said that and it sounded high, so I put the 'less then' sign in front, haha.
I'll go see if I can confirm a number....
....
Well, http://nymag.com/health/features/60148/ says the percentage of complications seems to run from 0.01% all the way up to 10%, so I guess the actual number is hard to pin down.
It does say there are 2 deaths (DEATHS!) per million, which though super low, is really way way to high for me.
PornCartel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:02:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah really. And even for complications, we're talking about messing up your junk for life. BFD if you ask me lol
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:30:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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catby ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:33:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, sometimes kids are just assholes that don't listen. My mom used to know a girl that when her mom told her to take a bath, she would go in the bathroom, turn on the water and fill up the tub, then read a book for a half hour or so. Kid went ages without actually bathing.
Also doctors tell parents not to retract the foreskin until later nowadays, you just wash around the area. My kid got an infection at age 4, he didn't require circumcision, but it was painful for the poor little guy, and even then the doctor said his foreskin wasn't ready to retract at that point.
kristahatesyou ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:22:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I odd for thinking that it's fucking strange for people to want their kids' dicks to look similar to theirs? Why are people so concerned with the appearance of their children's genitals?
ThisPlaceisHell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:53:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FWIW, I'm cut and I don't want my kids to look like me. Maybe I'm just weird.
kristahatesyou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:59:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like that's a lot less weird than the alternative. At least you're not altering their bodies to achieve this?
WannieTheSane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's right, but it's not really odd in a way. Humans have a lot of fucked up things we do to make ourselves part of a group.
I think we've just accepted that this was done to our dads, and to us, and so should keep happening.
I bet my parents didn't even really debate it. We're finally now starting to go "wait, I want my child healthy, not given unnecessary surgery to look like me."
nugymmer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:39:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because they're sick. that's why
kristahatesyou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:45:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really can't think of any other explanation. Lazy parenting perhaps, because you have to clean it and teach the kid how to but it's not like this is difficult. It really irritates me that circumcision is still a thing. It's 2017! Stop cutting your babies' genitals!
Also, if you were to reverse it and say you gave your baby girl a labilaplasty (spelling?) so that she looked like you, people would be calling CPS. As they should.
CapinWinky ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 07:31:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The medical benefits of circumcision are made up bullshit to make Americans feel better about an arbitrary practice that took hold here as a way to combat masturbation. You made the right decision to not circumcise your son, but the fact that it was your decision to make is something that will be viewed as barbaric in future generations.
Beta1548 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I promise, being circumcised has never stopped me
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are actual benefits to circumcision, both medical and hygienic. For me they didn't outweigh the pain and risk, but saying they don't exist isn't helping, saying they are mostly unimportant is more correct.
Here's the list from they Mayo Clinic website:
CapinWinky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
photenth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not American here and circumcision has medical benefits (as well as drawbacks)
Claiming there are no benefits is just wrong.
SirAwesomeBalls ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:47:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey... few quick things.
It was HIV transferrence and the study was debunked.
Umm.. No, it has nothing to do with keeping it clean. As a Boy grows up it is possible that his forskin will be too tight and require some treatment with some creams, and in very bad cases, surgery.
You did the right thing, genital mutilation is never a good thing.
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're correct, I accidentally said AIDs when I meant HIV, however I believe it was debunked and later rebunked. According to the current Mayo Clinic webpage about circumcision:
It's not necessary in this age of safe sex practices, but it does help lower the risk.
I also confused easier hygiene with phimosis which is when the foreskin can't retract. I don't think that is caused by hygiene, but to be honest I said that because health care people I worked with had talked about this happening, but it was totally anecdotal, so maybe they were confused too.
appleman73 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:02:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! I'm from Hamilton!
WannieTheSane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I know. So nice how all us Canadians are one a first name basis.
HiemJew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:01 on February 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm apple man's brother. Neither of us are cut. Let that wierd tradition die!!!!
diothar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:27:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents didn't have me circumcised and let me make the decision. At 10, I decided to because at camp and such, I was the oddball. So I did and it made high school and college a bit easier fitting in.. but at this point (I'm 34 now), I regret the decision... but I think it would have been a lot easier 15 years later to go uncircumcised than it would have been as I was growing up. My first two girlfriends told me they probably would have freaked and left if I uncut at the time. I now know I should have let them walk anyway, but at the time I would have preferred the whole sex thing with them. You probably made the right choice in his mind (later down the road).
fracturedspacedout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:14:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV, not AIDS. You can't catch or transmit AIDS. :)
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I was always warned I might make a mistake some day, I guess it finally happened.
Shpoople44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A buddy in HS got infected and had to get his circumcised at 16 years
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any idea if it was actually a hygiene issue, like something he could have prevented with proper washing, or was it just something that happens?
Shpoople44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't know but I'm very sure he would take daily showers
radicallyhip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad's reasoning was pretty simple: it should be the boy's choice. Dad was circumsized. I was not. I have toyed with the idea because of a number of personal factors - women can be brutal judgemental I have found - but have so far decided against getting it done.
weretomato ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:12:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for not mutilating your son. :) In a few decades circumcision is going to finally be viewed as outright barbarity on the same level as FGM, because it is the same. Cheers!! :)
IMarriedTheKing ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:18:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely agree. It disgusts me that we see FGM as an unacceptable mutiliation and violation of a woman's rights, but we don't give the same respect to men. As a woman I would never allow my son to be circumcised (even if his father was), if as an adult he decides he wants it done then that is fine, it is his body and as an adult, it's his choice. but robbing him of that choice when he is incapable of voicing his wishes is an abusive violation of his personal rights.
nugymmer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even more disturbing is that those who believe in bodily autonomy (as in pro-choice on abortion) won't extend that same courtesy to their children and leave their son's private bits alone.
A lot of those people probably view children as property...which seems about right.
weretomato ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't agree more! I wish this was a more common opinion, especially in America.
kristahatesyou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:42:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree that they're both unacceptable, but FGM is far worse. That's like comparing a paper cut to losing a limb...
moon--moon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FGM is worse, but as you said, they're both unacceptable. It shouldn't be a contest on which genitalia gets the most fucked up - the practice itself is fucked up and that's all that really needs to be said.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, while they are both equally violating the childs rights, FGM is on another level of brutality.
Catspygirl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:20:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure FGM is worse
lotharmat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:58:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FGM is quite wide-ranging and again, totally unnecessary - like circumcision or MGM as I prefer to call it!
weretomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure it's not. It's not a fucking competition.
cdmedici ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:40:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely is though. FGM often involves stitching or cauterising the vagina shut entirely, after the complete removal of external genitalia such as labia and clitoris.
It's more akin to having your dick chopped off. I'm completely and utterly against circumcision, but the comparison to FGM holds zero water.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:52:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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cdmedici ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FGM is usually performed in shoddy conditions in poor countries.
Again, I'm not advocating for circumcision, but please stop conflating Western circumcision performed by trained physicians with the barbaric mutilation of little girls in the third world. Circumcision is horrible and unnecessary, I'm not saying it's not. But comparing the two is detrimental to your point more than it supports it.
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it's worse. Much, much worse.
anonkingdragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:22:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how people equate circumcision with fgm. Other than applying the term mutilation loosely to circumcision. In fgm a females genitals are literally mutilated and destroyed to prevent sexual gratification based on an evil religions gender equality issues, where as circumcision started with first Egypt, however most prevalent with Judaism for religious purposes as a way to honor a covenant and probably a way to make t easier to clean. Yes it does involve cutting and making a makes genitals look different. But a medical procedure that is mainly cosmetic, carries no ill effects other than temporary pain, and has a very low error rate is a far cry from some guy and a goat taking their favorite blade to their daughter vagina so she won't enjoy sex. Even medically done fgm is still changing the function of the females genitals. Removing entire parts in most cases. It's a truly terrible thing. My question is how can you say these two are the same thing. And why do you care if someone gets their kid snipped? It's similar to saying you shouldn't cut a child's hair because of their preference. If circumcision had any ill effects or a high rate of anything negative I'd be right with you. But it doesn't. Just let people do what they do. It's not your business. Take abortion, I am a male, I am a Christian, I believe it is wrong. Do I care if someone gets an abortion? No because it doesn't effect me or my family at all. No one has the right to tell anyone what they can and can't do based on their personal preference. I hope you don't take this as attacking you in anyway I'm genuinely interested in how one equates these two different practices. Because it makes no sense to me. Reading an interesting comment flow about circumcision turned into male genital mutilation and there's support for it.
Tl:dr - one can't equate fgm the forced and literally mutilation of a females genitals for the purpose of reducing or denying them sexual gratification with a purely cosmetic surgery to remove foreskin. One has ever lasting emotional and physical damaging effect while the other is merely cosmetic with extremely low complication rates.
weretomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) It's not a cosmetic surgery. It's a surgery that destroys a lot of the function of the penis. Destroying the foreskin reduces a lot of the sexual pleasure a man can get, and also destroys the protective role the foreskin plays structurally and immunologicially. Circumcision can removed around 1/3 of a penis. 2) You're disgusting. 3) Foreskin isn't hair. And circumcision has many ill effects, which you'd know if you did five minutes of research. 4) I care that people are mutilating their boys without their consent, for non-medically necessary reasons. And you should, too. 5) I'm done talking to you. You need to have your moral compass checked.
anonkingdragon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:42:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See that's interested to me because there is literally no proof anywhere that it destroys the sexual pleasure a man can receive. As I mentioned there is literally zero scientifically proven negative effects. Show me a source. Link any reputable scientific study and I'll submit that I was wrong. 2nd you must be some liberal feminazi aren't you. I can tell by the way you immediately put down someone who has a different opinion than you. You have clearly underestimated my intelligence as apparently I am incapable of doing research and simply let things fall out of my head and into Reddit considering that I looked for any proof and found none before writing you politely to ask why you compared these two things, forgetting the fact that I have a penis and have had zero problems and receive sexual pleasure quite well, in fact the underside of my penis head where it was cut is actually the most sensitive part how can that be when my foreskin is gone? 3 you care only that someone doesn't see it your way and so you will shove your opinion down their throats until they give up talking to the miracle that is a brick wall speaking human words. And finally 4 you can be done talking to me all you want. All I did was politely ask why you compare the two, even saying I was not attacking you in case you turned out to be the cunt you have revealed yourself to be. I came at you with my reasoning asking for yours and in response you call me disgusting and stupid for having my own opinion instead of politely and intelligently arguing your case you were caught unprepared and lashed out like your type does putting another person down so your self image as a progressive maverick isn't compromised. Newsflash, your fatuity is showing. I'll wait while you look that up. You could have came back with sources and been respectful and we could have had an intelligent debate on this matter. However I find your interest in penis skin disturbing and you want me to check my moral compass. I only need to check it because it doesn't align with yours. I'm so sorry. Here's the truth buttercup: no one gives a shit about your opinion. No one gives a shit about my opinion. Grow the fuck up and respect others opinions or they'll never take you seriously. As a human you're a joke to me now, I will tell this tale to friends for a laugh. Had you be a respectable person that wouldn't be the case.
Tl:dr - [intelligently] go fuck yourself you're a joke of a human, I hope you don't reproduce and spread your cranial deficiency. Get off your high horse and grow up you're no better than anyone else, get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich. (Last part added just to piss off a feminazi irl I respect women that are respectable)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you! I left the decision up to my husband as well and he chose circumcision - here in the US it is still fairly common I think? - But when we had our second son I wished we hadn't done it at all :/
helm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The risks of circumcision are certainly not 0, either.
knighty1981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK here, pretty much only Jewish people are circumcised here
and I've literally never heard of anyone needing circumcision later in life... and "holy crap I needed an operation on my dick" is the kind of things guys talk about
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There were two people at my work who both knew boys that had to have surgery around age 10 to 12. I'm pretty sure they claimed it was hygiene related, but since looking it up more it seems to be just something that happens sometimes, the foreskin won't retract, I don't think it's related to washing actually.
Even if you haven't heard of it, it does happen, I just don't think it's all that common.
knighty1981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there's a thing where the foreskin gets a bit tighter - I can't remember the name for it, can pull it back when soft but not when hard
happens to me if I haven't had sex in a while (like after I was in an accident at work), bit of sex to stretch it and it goes back to normal
you can get little thingies that stretch it for you, but I never bothered
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phimosis
There are surgical and non-surgical solutions depending on severity.
Edit: There's a dick pic right at the top of that wiki.
knighty1981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ok, mines nothing like that! thanks for the link tho!
rubermnkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's disaster? I got sniped, but then they did it again because it was growing back or something like that. Fast forward to my first erection and me in excruciating pain. Not enough skin down there so it was stretched to its limit and it took awhile before it normalized and stop hurting .
On the plus side though I can now say my dick is so fat it has strech marks.
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to one article I say, circumcision has a death rate of 2 per million. That's a pretty big disaster.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why this is even considered an argument. So circumcision reduces risk of STDs by a small percentage. Does that mean you will not use a condom for non-exclusive sex because your chances are a little better?
Kudos to you for breaking the circle. I understand the psychological reasons for dads to have their sons circumcised so they themselves will not feel damaged, so nice to see that there are fathers who think this through and doctors who aren't after the money for a useless procedure (because Canada).
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I totally agree. Just put a fucking condom on and then it doesn't matter.
"Nahh, it's ok baby, I'm circumcised, there's like a 3% less chance we have to worry about STIs"
(I made up that 3% number, but it's definitely something low).
stateofcookies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good for you. I won't go past that because I don't want to argue, just, good for you, and him.
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reply received.
DroidLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You made the right choice. Another downside is that it makes the tip less sensitive (since it doesn't have a sheath over it), which makes sex less enjoyable. With proper hygine and safe practices, there's really no reason to do it.
randomentity1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, we can also prevent breast cancer by forcing young women to have mastectomies, but we don't do that. Also, if boys don't brush their teeth, they'll need root canals later.
WannieTheSane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my glob, you're right! I'm having his teeth pulled tomorrow!
Raging_Dragon_99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "looking like your father" or "the boys in the locker room" is one of the stupidest forms of conformity I've ever heard of.
Note: Uncircumsized. Mutilation of baby penis's isn't cool.
quartzguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have had my son circumcized for that reason. I'm from the west coast and it's a more common thing. He was born in maritime Canada where apparently the hospitals don't even provide that service. So we'll have to talk about why dad is a little different eventually.
WannieTheSane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:45:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The hospitals here don't either, it's considered elective in Ontario. In all of Kingston there's only 1 doctor who does circumcisions, and it costs almost $400.
My doctor explained it costs so much... well, because there's only 1 doctor and so he can somewhat set the price.
r2u2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:33:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
quartzguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah there's one of you any time I post this. Keeping the streak alive.
TheStarkGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I don't get is why people don't respect the opinions of those who were glad to be circumsised. I am circumsised, I'm happy about it, yet I brought it up on Imgur once, and I was insulted and downvoted.
noobykillerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:42:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because when the time comes to be circumcised you can't communicate. It should be the penis owners choice, those who were circumcised and wish they weren't can't do anything about it.
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being happy with your junk sounds upvote worthy to me.
manypuppies ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 01:27:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm female, 36 and Canadian. It's been about 50/50 in my slightly limited experience.
--Shade-- ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 03:40:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canadian male here. I've had women think I was circumcised because they only saw my junk when it was hard, and they weren't looking too close after the deed was done-- One of them claimed they'd never go down on on uncut guy some time after she did the deed on me. Odd.
FWIW, I like my hoodie just fine.
whatisthishownow ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 04:35:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious. Did you tell her?
--Shade-- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:34:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not her. I've told the story before omitting her name in the case of mutual acquaintances. Her vehemence on the subject made it very hard not to say anything, but cough, at the time I was kind of hoping for future head, so I shut the hell up.
In most of the other cases where there were repeat encounters and the women figured it out on their own. Though in my 40ish years the fact that it's happened more than once is kind of funny. Now, I don't have a lot of first hand experience with other guys' junk, but there's still a little ridge there that I don't imagine would be there when guys are cut. (Though to be fair many of these encounters would be heat of the moment, in the darkish, with condoms involved for sex, and possibly in various states of inebriation, so women get a pass on this to a certain degree, IMHO.)
dsac ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:52:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fuckin toque, buddy, come on now
--Shade-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Touchรฉ.
cpt_pancreas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean different for everyone tbf. When at attention mine doesn't fully retract. It's not incapable of it nor is it tight around the head, and obviously it rolls back and forth during use, but generally I guess I just have enough skin that it does need to roll back straight away.
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How didn't she know? You guys are much easier to blow.
--Shade-- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I'm up there's just a little speedbump a ways below the head-- Layer on starting hard when it comes out to play, dark, maybe intoxicated, and condoms involved for sex. It's happened more than once.
As an aside, I've been in a happy monogamous relationship for many years at this point. This is the most strangers have heard about my dick in a long time.
timm1blr ยท 327 points ยท Posted at 03:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
50 circumcised and 50 uncircumcised doesn't seem like limited experience.
cleeder ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 04:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a ROW?!?!
dani_bar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 37!?
Jowobo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, a circle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're 50% circumcised?
puterTDI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Choo choo.
bedroom_fascist ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:02:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's quite moderate for Canadians.
Kelpsie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the low population density, you can go weeks without seeing another person. We take every chance we get.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plot twist : all the uncircumcised ones and some of the circumcised ones were polar bears.
rslogic42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're fucking sorry! We're fucking, sorry!
-susan- ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:48:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm female, 36 and Canadian, too! I've been with two guys, both uncircumcised. But neither guy had Canadian parents.
Jolator ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 04:10:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is American, and she's uncircumcised.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:28:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You joke, but that shit is scary af, don't Google it
bedroom_fascist ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:01:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm terribly sorry, but there is no such thing as a 36 year old Canadian who has only seen two penises. Y'all are 'friendlier' than that.
-susan- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:10:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I'm sure I've seen hundreds of penises. This is the internet, after all. But I've only slept with 2 dudes.
bedroom_fascist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:46:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hundreds of penises." The truth arrives, right on time.
manypuppies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hummm. I'm thinking. Two uncircumcised guys weren't born in Canada and one was Mennonite.
Now times have changed. I literally don't know anyone who mutilated their baby. I certainly didn't.
highanddriving ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the bit I don't understand. Why are people cutting their kid's junk up?
manypuppies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. Didn't make sense to me at all.
I_E_Lebowitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming that's a percentage...
bedroom_fascist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm having Nunavut.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About your demographic. I'd say my ratio is 20% uncut...
[deleted] ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 03:06:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female, 31, Canadian. Actually seen more uncut. Also now it's no longer encouraged to have it done on babies. Doctors won't bring it up unless you request it. When I had my son all that I was told was how to properly clean his penis and at what age to start teaching him to retract the foreskin. I think it's great that we are moving away from having it done automatically.
maully ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad that my boyfriend is uncircumcised and knows how to take care of his foreskin/cleaning. I've always considered not circumsizing, but I've read stories about boys and young men not knowing how to clean themselves. But now I feel more confident about raising a son with good hygiene.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:18:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But keeping a little baby clean is something else
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 10:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could just, I don't know, tell him how to clean himself?
maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but I would have to look it up! Having someone to give me hands on lessons would make it easier!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure your SO will be happy to help you with that.
maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he'll be a good dad. He's already a great uncle to my 4 niblings. I'm very lucky in more ways than one
akyrah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:51:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They gave you an age? In Australia they say don't pull it back until it happens itself.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was more of a guideline. They said by 3 he should be playing with it enough to retract it himself. Which was accurate haha
G8kpr ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:39:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In N. America, in the 70s and 80s (and maybe 90s?) it was common for doctors to automatically circumcise newborns.
My brothers and I were, and I don't think my parents even had a choice.
One of my highschool teachers said how when his second was born, the doctor came and told him (since he wasn't allowed in back then) "you have a boy, we went ahead and circumcised him"
and my teacher said "uh, you did what?"
Similarly, when my mom was little (born late 40s) they routinely took kids tonsils out, to avoid tonsillitis. So when she was about 12 or 13, she had her perfectly healthy tonsils removed.
MissPatsyStone ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:11:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Antibiotics didn't come into use for the American public until 1945. And even then it wasn't widespread use. They were very hard to aquire. People used to die from tonsillitis and other infections. People used to die from everything. I'm 50 yrs old and up until the 1990's, most people who had a stroke either died, were paralyzed on one side and/or had severe speech problems. People who had heart attacks died or weren't ever able to work again. Now people have heart attacks and strokes and be back at work a month later. Health care has changed 100% in the past 45 years
Davecasa ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:39:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never let them see you flaccid and they probably can't tell the difference. Just take viagra constantly, I'm sure everything will be fine.
moon--moon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If erection persists for more than 4 years, see a doctor.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or lose loads of dick weight so you can sagging flaps
DrBoneCrusher ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:48:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ten years old and self reported data, but here's a provincial breakdown: http://www.courtchallenge.com/refs/yr99p-e.html
hilarymeggin ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 02:08:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps you should clarify that it's the data, not you, that is ten years old.
Embe007 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:09:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm, self-reported data. I'm pretty sure it was actually routine in hospitals until about the 1980s. Certainly the medical people I've met have all said that was the case. Except in Quebec, as always.
Keina ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:53:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember many college conversations with other women about how uncircumcised penises felt better in bed and were more fun. I was pretty exited when I started dating someone who was intact. I wasn't disappointed.
Xamry14 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:40:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, so true.
Uncircumsized Doesn't feel like it's covered in sand paper when the guys get impatient with the foreplay lol.
out_for_blood ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a circumcised guy who really wishes he wasn't, this is what makes me feel sad and broken :( (Not in any way trying to shit on your preference)
soliloquy93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry you feel this way. I know it's probably not much consolation but your parents probably honestly believed they were acting in your best interests.
Keina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( honestly, part of my preference is probably because I feel sad for circumcised penises. I feel badly that this made you sad, and I really hope that maybe a few children out there will be able to skip over that for their parents reading things like this.
I can say though that I don't think what a penis is like has ever affected who I or anyone I know has dated, and that all sorts can be amazing
Xamry14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is exactly the reason my 1 year old is intact. I live in the south and caught so much shit for It. Ugh.
I also would never let someone's penis be the judge of if I stay with someone. The person at the controls matter more than the equipment.
Xamry14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel bad. Never feel bad about your body. Most women actually do prefer circumcised men.
And all you have to do to avoid the 'sandpaper' problem is pay attention to your partner and go for waterfall XD
TravelBug87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, their head is always exposed, so the skin there (which normally would be like the skin of the vagina or the inside of the cheek) becomes keritanized, much like most of your skin.
icer816 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:28:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard many women (I'm a Canadian guy btw, just get into weird conversations ask the time (that I usually don't initiate)) and I've heard circumcised guys are better because they last longer since the head is less sensitive.
Xamry14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes too long.
Longer isn't always better. It sucks when what should be a pleasant moderate nature walk suddenly turns into a marathon and your unprepared if you catch my meaning.
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't encountered this problem yet but I do catch your drift.
TravelBug87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose it depends on how long each partner wants the sex to last.
Keina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mhm! I feel like they enjoy foreplay and being played with more too, from everything being more sensitive. Way easier to give handjobs too! Bjs seem about the same, but more fun when the guy reacts so much more
out_for_blood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a circumcised guy who really wishes he wasn't, this is what makes me feel sad and broken :(
(Not in any way trying to shit on your preference)
innle85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australian - all men I have been with have not been circumcised. But as someone who works in early childhood, I am surprised at how many boys are circumcised - about 40% I'd say.
pieplate_rims ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canadian Aboriginal... I feel your pain. Circumcision is not much of a thing in my culture lol I always find it astonishing how utterly curious women seem to be about an uncircumcised dick. It's almost uncomfortable for me when they want to "inspect" it to get a "closer look"
Damn_Amazon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:06:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a come-on, but I would love to be in those women's shoes. Around here it's all circumcised all the time. I wish their parents didn't wade into their sons' sex lives. Circumcised sex is just not as good.
FionnasCake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female Canadian here... most of the men I have slept with weren't circumcised. I think it depends on region.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what? They don't know it's a penis or something? BRACE YOURSELF, stuff gets weird right about now, ladies
anxietysufferingfool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canadian too, and I as well brace women for it. never had one back out because of it luckily.
Technocroft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok, I hear the Canadian population is increasing, and soon, women everywhere will have seen a Canadian.
el_chavo_canadiense ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also Canadain. I have a "Dorsal Slit" because I got an infection when I was about two and a half, and they had to make an incision in the foreskin like so: http://imgur.com/a/LHzPF
Before clicking, please note that it is not a picture of my ween, it's a medical drawing with a line drawn where the incision is. Click at own risk.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A Canadian?
fuuuuuckendoobs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australian here... Same goes.
My last partner was freaked out by the idea.. current one didn't even think it was worth mentioning.
FEMALEforREAL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever seen one.
maully ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was afraid to ask my boyfriend for two weeks if he was uncircumcised. I mean, I assumed that's what it was, I just wasn't SURE.
I kind of love watching him masturbate. Much more satisfying to watch him pull the head back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? That's so weird... I'm Dutch and I've never seen a circumcised penis up close. It's just not done here, really, except maybe in some religions...
My SO I think had pretty tight foreskin when he hit puberty. Doctor told him to just 'train' it (pull it back to stretch it). Worked fine, it's normal now (and I can't imagine that being a bad thing to have to do as a guy :P)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also Canadian and uncircumcised - I've never mentioned it and never had a complaint, but one time I found out that a girl I'd been sleeping with had made her first post on Tumblr about hating uncircumcised dicks (about a year before we met). Sometimes I wonder if I changed her mind or if she just didn't know wtf she was talking about.
Either way, I got one more BJ then ghosted
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only guys i know who are cut had phimosis
catby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Canadian and where i live its uncommon for dudes to be circumcised. I've never had a partner that was cut, so It doesn't bother me in the slightest. If a chick can't deal with your natural body, nope the fuck outta there i say.
CortanasOwner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most women I know haven't dealt with one either. I've only ever encountered 2 or 3 in sexual partners. Which sucks because then women have no idea what to do with the foreskin when it comes to the sexy fun times.
I love that my fiance is uncut cause it makes hand motions so much easier.
mastermariner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe you should have a retrospective circumcision. lol do they really need bracing? do they not just accept it and carry on doing whatever they are doing to it? its uncommon to be circumcised in straya
rannapup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canadian woman, 24, with an extensive history. Majority of my male partners have been cut, but a foreskin isn't a unicorn. About a 70/30 split I'd say.
WindThroughTheTulips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also Canadian, (and a women who sometimes has sex with men) and I have only ever seen 1 circumcised penis. Errybody else has been intact.
longboardshayde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also Canadian and uncircumcised, literally never had to brace anyone or ever had any reactions to it. Maybe it's an age thing? (I'm in my 20s)
toplessbooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I met a guy in college who though some way or another I found out he was uncircumcised. Some time later we were going to go out on a date and I called my friend from/in England to ask her if there was anything I had to do differently if I wound up sleeping with him because I had never seen an uncircumcised penis before... Eventually we did, the build up of it being that much different was more exciting then the actual difference. Sex was good, just not any different from my perspective.
Show_me_your_nipple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a American with a friend whos not cut we'd always tease him about his ant eater! If we did it around women he would get so pissed. Lol
RECOGNI7E ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am in the same boat but have never had a single compliant. Most girls were more used to uncircumcised to be honest. What part of Canada are you from?
tyereliusprime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Western now, but I was a prairie boy growing up.
RECOGNI7E ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the prairies, the kind of explains it. I have been in western Canada my whole life and find it is more the norm here as it is less religious and more liberal.
GoodTimesOnTables ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm also Canadian and I haven't found this to be a problem.
PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never fucked a guy with foreskin, I have to say it would be a shock for me. I would have no clue what to do with it.
corndogsareeasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American here- all of my biology and health textbooks in school showed only circumcised penises, and nobody in sex ed ever told us how to deal with uncut ones, especially when it comes to putting on condoms. Plus the majority of porn coming out of CA means we're mostly seeing American dicks. So the first time you encounter an uncut one in the wild, it is a little surprising- I knew they existed, but I had no idea how to handle it, which was pretty intimidating. Getting a little warning beforehand, and being patient while explaining what to do would have been a huge help and could have avoided a lot of awkwardness for everyone involved.
c00kies44 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:38:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think only about 30% of males are circumcized, and most of those are Jewish or in porn.
FaaacePalm ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:54:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or in America. I love how we are super against "female genital mutilation" in other countries but cutting of part of a males penis is fine because it's normal and we've done it since forever right?
Alpacauno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully more Americans are becoming aware of how awful genital mutilation is for both boys and girls.
NyaaFlame ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:05:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, comparing circumsision to female genital mutilation, which generally refers to removing the clitoris, is unfair to say the least. To start with, female genital mutilation is rooted in the idea of controlling female sexuality and is clearly shown to negatively impact female health with no known health benefits.
Circumsision on the other hand has no major health detriments, and no major health orginization calls for it's ban, while WHO advocates it as a comprehensive HIv prevention step. On top of that, it has minor health benefits and is a legitimate treatment option for severe cases of things like phimosis or UTIs.
Long story short this is a complete bullshit comparison and people need to stop trying it.
FaaacePalm ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:28:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of this is simply not true. Even if there are very very minor health benefits of which many studies flip flop on, the basic idea of circumcision is to reduce sexual sensitivity. I don't know about you but that sounds like trying to control sexuality to me. John Kellog also advocated it for health and helping reduce male desires. http://www.circumstitions.com/Kellogg.html
The case for phimosis is silly, there are better medical procedures out there now than just chopping of a bunch of skin. As for UTI the comparison for percentage of males that get them that are uncircumcised is such a small amount it's ridiculous to say we should mutilate, and let's be clear we are mutilating an natural part of the body, to lower that risk for an easily treatable condition. The only real possible reason would be the reduction in transmission in HIV and other STDS, I mean a 60% reduction is a lot you got me there. We should cut it off for that, I can't think of any other method that would easier and be as or more effective than that. *cou https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/docs/condoms_and_stds.pdf http://www.aidschicago.org/resources/legacy/condoms/ltoyw_fact.pdf gh*
But hey the WHO recommends it so who are we to go against them.
KBD20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also http://i.imgur.com/VRtkrO4.jpg Looks like the female american version was almost nothing by comparison - which is still no reason for it to have been legal.
NyaaFlame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A quick note you misunderstood. I'm not saying you should circumcise someone to lower the risk of a UTI or phimosis, I'm saying it's a common treatment for severe cases of those things. If someone already has a severe UTI or phimosis and other techniques are proving ineffective, circumcision can be a quick and relatively low impact way to cure them.
notoyrobots ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:14:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The WHO, CDC, and American Academy of Pediatrics all recognize health benefits to circumcision, do not be flippant and act like this is an open and shut issue. It's not. The fact you use an emotionally loaded word like "mutilate" repeatedly just goes to show the intactivist position is based on emotion, not logic or science.
Also, in almost all double blind studies on sensitivity circumcised men report no perceptible loss of feeling.
There are small benefits, in exchange for very small risk of complication. It's a delicate issue and should always be up to the parent.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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notoyrobots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, blind study, not double blind. Been arguing too many psych studies recently and my brain just automatically goes there.
Think that means it's time for a debate break, hah.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:33:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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notoyrobots ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, lets just wait to see the kiddos opinion on vaccination, going to school, and eating their veggies too!
Parents make decisions for their children. Deal with it.
Alpacauno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slicing off functional parts of a child's genitals, without cause, is in no way comparable to life saving vaccines, education, or veggies.
Yes parent's make decisions for their children, and sometimes those choices are not ethical. Children are not property.
FaaacePalm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say i'm not against circumcision, nor cutting off the clitoris if that's what the adult person's decides to do to themselves. Getting part of themselves lopped off if they so choose is a delicate decision since there are both sides of the issues to consider. /u/Nyaaflame thought the comparison of the two issues was bad but man you are comparing a persons right to change their body for very little medical benefit to a parent choosing to make their kid get vaccinated, which has a lot of medical benefits, getting an education, and eating vegetables. wow. I think I'm going to get a tattoo put on my kid, only permanent for their life unless they want to pay a lot of money to try and remove it, lolz.
r2u2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry you're so insecure about your penis.
Organizations that bill for this service promote it. Amazing. Most of the world's physicians think it's ridiculous.
The HIV study was cut short, no pun intended, because it was of poor quality and run unethically.
A slight reduction in UTIs, which are easily treated with antibiotics, doesn't outweigh the significantly increased risk of comppications due to the procedure nor is it ethical to make such a choice without consent.
notoyrobots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not the one that's insecure mate, but nice projecting. There is nothing in my post that is factually incorrect, the WHO, CDC, and APA all claim medical benefit that outweigh it's risk. Sorry that fact bothers you. It's you people that freak out over this that are clearly the insecure ones, which is why you resort to ridiculous emotional pleas and claims of legit medical organizations being shills.
But believe what you want, whatever helps you sleep, LOL.
r2u2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just not based in science. Their position is discredited and not accepted by the world's leading medical organizations.
They base it on a flawed study that has been lambasted in the medical community. The study was ended abruptly and has terrible controls. The small possible medical benefits do not outweigh the medical ethics of the practice and the risks of complication are prevalent.
Penile cancer is rarer than male breast cancer. The AAP Task Force found one credible study showed that there would need to be 322,000 infant circumcisions, and 644 circumcision complications, to prevent one case of penile cancer.
Here is the AAP being brought to task on the issue in the medical journal Pediatrics.
National Institutes of Health
Here is a critique of the CDC's position.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4364150/
The AAP's review of literature stopped at 2010, leaving out the most important scientific piece of work ever conducted on the sexual impact of circumcision (indeed, one of the only ones ever conducted) -- a study of 5,000 couples by Frisch et al, published in late 2011, that found circumcised men and their partners were 3.5X more likely to have frequent orgasm problems, in addition to less sexual satisfaction and increased problems with vaginal pain.
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2011/06/13/ije.dyr104.short?rss=1
The KNMG, representing 40,000 Dutch doctors, cited this study in a recent symposium on circumcision, following their 2010 report condemning infant circumcision as being risky and without medical benefit.
https://www.knmg.nl/advies-richtlijnen/dossiers/jongensbesnijdenis.htm
https://www.knmg.nl/web/file?uuid=4f46a948-1a37-4ee4-95be-976b541ec6ee&owner=5c945405-d6ca-4deb-aa16-7af2088aa173&contentid=286&elementid=1149672
Moreover, a study was just published by Rodriguez et al that found a sample of men in Puerto Rico were more likely to have HIV if circumcised. This is in line with a 2009 USAID study that found, in 10 of 18 countries with data available, circumcised men were more likely to have HIV. This is important given several flawed studies in AFRICA were the primary basis for the AAP's updated stance more heavily favoring circumcision. No population level data has ever shown an HIV reduction from circumcision.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1743-6109.2012.02871.x/abstract
http://dhsprogram.com/pubs/pdf/CR22/CR22.pdf
Taylor's studies discussing the "Ridged Band" of nerve endings are never mentioned, and Sorrells' findings on penile sensitivity are glossed over. The AAP admits that circumcision has been found to reduce masturbatory pleasure, but omits this from any of their conclusions.
Science, does not support infant circumcision. The AAP supports it because they are biased and defending their members, who are responsible for millions of infant circumcisions over the past 100 years.
Canadian Paediatric Society (CPS) (2015) The CPS does not recommend the routine circumcision of every newborn male. It further states that when โmedical necessity is not established, โฆinterventions should be deferred until the individual concerned is able to make their own choices.โ
Royal Dutch Medical Association (KNMG) (2010) The KNMG states โthere is no convincing evidence that circumcision is useful or necessary in terms of prevention or hygiene.โ It regards the non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors as a violation of physical integrity, and argues that boys should be able to make their own decisions about circumcision.
The Royal Australasian College of Physicians (RACP) (2010) The RACP states that routine infant circumcision is not warranted in Australia and New Zealand. It argues that, since cutting children involves physical risks which are undertaken for the sake of merely psychosocial benefits or debatable medical benefits, it is ethically questionable whether parents ought to be able to make such a decision for a child.
British Medical Association (BMA) (2006) The BMA considers that the evidence concerning health benefits from non-therapeutic circumcision is insufficient as a justification for doing it. It suggests that it is โunethical and inappropriateโ to circumcise for therapeutic reasons when effective and less invasive alternatives exist.
Expert statement from the German Association of Pediatricians (BVKJ) (2012) In testimony to the German legislature, the President of the BVKJ has stated, โthere is no reason from a medical point of view to remove an intact foreskin from โฆboys unable to give their consent.โ It asserts that boys have the same right to physical integrity as girls in German law, and, regarding non-therapeutic circumcision, that parentsโ right to freedom of religion ends at the point where the childโs right to physical integrity is infringed upon.
notoyrobots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you've done it!
cousinlazlo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:14:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also female circumcision can make sex extremely painful, while make circumcision does not. And generally for women it is performed at puberty, when they remember it (which you don't at a few days old), causing trauma.
MattinglySideburns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the world's cut guys are Muslim. Over a billion of them.
kleptoclarence ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:38:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, as an American, I'm scared of you and your uncircumcisedness.
skootch_ginalola ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The majority of American men are circumcised. I know some American women who are repulsed by an uncut cock. I think they're sexy, but I also think it's because they're rare here.
AkariAkaza ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:25:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brit here as well, the three or so people i know who are circumsiced are all because of phismosis
wolster2002 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:32:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brit here. I am circumsiced due to phismosis. Fucking hurts when you are 33 years old.
re_Claire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:15:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes this is what happened to my best friend. No idea why the other guy I knew was circumcised. I think he might have been Jewish.
ziggy161 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, I thought it was only a Jewish thing but it seems like it's an American thing too?
LiquidSilver ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 09:51:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knows America is controlled by the Jews.
It's probably because of the religious history of the US. All the oppressed weirdos from the Old World moved to the New World. Extreme things suddenly seem normal when you live on a continent filled with extremes.
kkira133 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:33:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty rare here in australia too, but not unheard of.
Werkstadt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'd pretty much north America and the developing world that cuts without religious reason. http://waitbutwhy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Circumcision-FEATURE.png
DvLochees ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20%-80% is a huge range.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
15%. Too...fucking...high.
Should be <1%
Period.
Szymonmf ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's mostly a USA/Canadian thing.
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:28:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Leightcomer ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 01:55:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even before the NHS was set up, it was no way near standard. Aside from for religious reasons, I believe it was only done for medical reasons, and not as a matter of course.
greyjackal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was more common though - my parents' generation (baby boomers born in the late 40s) had a fair amount apparently.
ZodiacalFury ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:18:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was common in British high society in the late 19th and early 20th century. For one, the British Royal family practices circumcision (they allege they are descended from the Biblical David). However rumor has it Princess Di refused to have her sons circumcised, to the Queen's chagrin. Secondly, it was believed circumcision could inhibit masturbation, which is why it initially became popular in America too. The British inclination to circumcise faded away, while the American inclination did not (although presently in the US it's estimated the majority of newborn boys are not circumcised - a trend largely driven by demographic change, i.e. greater number of immigrant families)
Alpacauno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's odd I would assume it's due to increased education and overall awareness.
America has always been made of immigrants. Natives are 2% of the country.
ZodiacalFury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, but the circumcision craze began in force probably around 1880, which is why even American men whose ancestors are Italian or Irish (places that did not and still do not circumcise) are most likely to be circumcised. It's interesting to note that the rising accessibility to hospital births during this period greatly enabled the new fad - you're not going to be circumcised if you were born in a log cabin! WWII was another time period that circumcision rates rose, as GIs underwent the procedure (it was encouraged by the military).
I'll also admit that in contemporary times, the practice is highly regional, being more prevalent in the Midwest and Northeast than the West and South.
Ikbeneenpaard ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:23:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why WOULD you voluntarily and unnecessarily chop a bit off your penis? Even if it was free?
Dr_McKay ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:56:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It started off as a supposed cure for masturbation, then it turned into a cycle of becoming the norm, so people don't want to be different. Both Men and Women will laugh at uncut dicks and call them "ugly" etc.
Parents will justify it with "he won't remember the agonising pain" or "Women will prefer it". That study only performed in Africa by the US Government claiming it reduces the risk of STDs gets cited a lot, yet these same people obviously wouldn't have unprotected sex just because the guy is circumcised, and will shave all of their pubic hair, which is supposed to increase the risk of STDs by around the same amount circumcision is supposed to prevent it.
ZodiacalFury ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:22:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also - circumcision to reduce the risk of contracting HIV needs context. AIDS is epidemic in Africa, where in many countries the percentage of adults with the disease is in the double digits. I compare circumcision to mosquito netting - obviously sleeping under a net decreases the risk of contracting malaria. Bur for people living in Europe and North America, malaria is not a problem. Saying Americans should practice circumcision to reduce the risk of HIV is like saying Americans should sleep under mosquito nets to reduce the risk of contracting malaria.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 02:36:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Alpacauno ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:17:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They really aren't fine. You can't just chop off a functional part, containing tens of thousands of nerves, and be ok. They just don't know any different.
ResolverOshawott ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 02:27:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes people often get UTIs due to their foreskin for one reason or another (even when cleaned).
Could be other medical reasons as well plus it's their dick it should be their own choice.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ResolverOshawott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I answered your question why would one voluntarily do it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm laughing at the idea of an infant intelligent enough to be able to tell them whether or not he wants circumcised.
Alpacauno ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:13:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would assume it's higher than 2%. I know my mom had a few students with fucked up dicks from bad circumcisions.
bedroom_fascist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would like to feed your brother in law's ears to his dogs.
While he gets circumcised.
rightnowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww man now you just reminded me of the time I saw a puppy at Walmart with like the most awful looking freshly cropped ears. The lady who had him was petting his head and he would flinch every time she got close to the ears... She was also trying to feed him grapes.
Alpacauno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awful :(
mewfahsah ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:57:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems to be much more common in America that most European countries, it's just something that a lot of parents had done. I'm circumcised, but there wasn't any reason for it. If I have a son I don't plan on mutilating his genitals, it just doesn't make any sense.
Chief_of_Achnacarry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct. Just 2% of men in the Netherlands are circumcised. Those 2% are mostly men with an immigrant background. Circumcision among the native population is almost non-existent and usually only carried out if it is a medical necessity.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mewfahsah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was just the normal thing to do for a while I guess, doctors would ask parents of newborns and they just would agree, without even considering the reasons not to do it which in my opinion, greatly outweigh the reasons to get circumcised.
hilarymeggin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:06:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how it became so much more common in the US.
Kurenai999 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:36:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American doctors thought it would lead to less masturbation. Same sort of logic as female genital mutilation.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:23:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Kurenai999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not wrong.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Kurenai999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's really religious here anymore. It's just a secular, normal thing. That's kinda scary that few people question it.
LiquidSilver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a plot to sell more lube. From what I know, Americans need lube to masturbate.
Kurenai999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We don't, really. Kellogg's shit didn't work, but everyone does it cuz it's normal now.
reverendmalerik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, wtf is that about? Why do they keep cutting bits of their kids' dicks off?
imghurrr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:37:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans love chopping foreskins off!
logiyama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:18:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans love chopping part of their dick off for no reason
Richard7666 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:39:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kiwi here, same.
Interestingly, US cultural influence is so strong that people here still draw dicks as circumcised, yet circumcision hasn't been standard here for decades.
Isoldael ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:42:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that because people generally draw erect penises, and you don't really see the foreskin then anyway?
demostravius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that is from US influence, look back through the history of willies and they are almost always drawn with the foreskin back. It's easier.
zincH20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You ever see those inflatable bouncy guys at used car lots ?
Perseus73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. Cutting bits off your body... er what ?
Hair and nails, yes. Flesh, no.
flutterguy123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans are weird. So many people get a piece of their penis cut off because a cereal guy thought it would stop them from touching themsleves.
TerrainIII ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm Source: Fellow British male
gablopico ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:14:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Indian and uncircumcised. Had never pulled back my foreskin till I was like 15. When I first started watching porn (which was before that), I was terrifyingly surprised because the dicks I saw looked nothing like my own! Was too scared to ask anyone. I didn't even know foreskin could be pulled back! Mine was so stiff..researching on the internet and a lot of lube helped. Was so relieved!
EDIT - added ethnicity
CrustyCumTowel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:53:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? We even called the one guy we knew, Circumcised McKay.
Jabberminor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, and both were for medical reasons. It's only really done in America, for medical or religious reasons.
Elbonio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people in the world
Sunlit5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most American men are circumcised at birth.
blackhole885 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it really is shocking how a first world country allows male genital mutilation, its been proven unhelpful and unhealthy but people still think its ok to do in every situation... it baffels me
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a period in North America where circumcision was a standard procedure for boys at birth. Basically a belief it would be more hygienic. So that's why we have so many adult men that are circumcised. The practice is no longer in effect, but it will take few decades until circumcised vs. uncircumcised numbers shift.
TheGreyFencer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can thank the guy who made corn flakes
DavidRandom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did you go about researching that?
re_Claire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just general knowledge here. British men are generally uncut. Also I'm a woman and have female and gay friends and none of us has ever seen a circumcised penis. (Small sample size of course, but friends of friends have never seen one etc...)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, only two friends are.
Jmanorama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US almost everyone is cause Kellogg (yes, the cereal guy- dude was a nut job, but I love cereals) was afraid of masturbation. He convinced everyone that circumcision was right and would prevent masturbation. Adam Ruins Everything did a wonderful episode on Sex Ed.
Persiano123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? How come there's so many that are circumcused in England? :o
englishmight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. the people I discovered that were circumcised were so for medical reasons
splelling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3 now. Hey fellow british friendo.
ZypherMyth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's am American thing that's been around for a while. I'm really not sure but I think it might have have something to do with old health suggestions. It's started to fall out of practice now though in the US.
loranlily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a Brit married to an American and I've already told him, if we have a son I'm not circumcising. I'm not about needlessly mutilating my baby.
ThachWeave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stateside, circumcision is only known to be done for religious or medical reasons; certain regions do it a lot more than others. I was uncircumcised at first, but in infancy I developed a life-threatening infection down there, and when it was treated, apparently my parents were told circumcision would put a permanent end to the problem. I kind of wish I still had my foreskin, but honestly, I'll always take not being dead over a bit of flesh I don't even remember.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, us Americans are a weird lot
Bishstixx ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 00:40:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm half circumcised... I went through the procedure as a newborn, but the doctor literally did a half assed job on mine.
Butterbean6 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:52:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too...so mother sent me back for a second round (apparently).
Bishstixx ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:12:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, I'm just sitting here with a half job...
Qwarkl1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:27:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I'm intrigued what does it look like?
DH2007able ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 01:32:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine, it looks like his penis wearing a cape.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:54:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks friend, with your help I successfully flushed my sinuses with cherry coke.
hilarymeggin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super-penis!
greyjackal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That'd get Edna in a tizzy
weretomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edna waggling a dildo around, instead of a rolled up newspaper NO CAPES!!!
Bishstixx ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of being cut right away, the foreskin sits 1/4 down the head of my dink flaccid. When I'm hard it almost looks like I am circumcised.
Exxmorphing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, that's the oldie style. Not all circumcisions were that aggressive.
Bishstixx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was poorly done for sure. haha
Doesnt-Comprehend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Polo neck.
Bishstixx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha, pretty much
Slipsonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm uncircumcised, and mine is about the same as you describe. I just equate it to a woman having small labia.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Slipsonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol nice, similar experience with my gf. She says there's more stimulation with my wiener intact.
lizzyhuerta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mother sounds delightful.
Butterbean6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guess she wanted her money's worth.
lizzyhuerta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:50:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry :(
flatwoundsounds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
bedroom_fascist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He circumcised half your ass?
This sounds terrible. Also like I might want to see a pic.
Nkechinyerembi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:50:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mine got totally fucked up to new levels and I can't masturbate because my dick don't feel nothin. Talk about a hell of a reason not to reproduce.
cleeder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Half off your first circumcision today only!".
Maccaroney ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:10:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pics for curiosity's sake?
FeatherMD ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:12:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happened with my son. Glad to know it's not that rare of an occurrence
grandantique ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:24:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why.... would you be glad about that?
FeatherMD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm glad to know my son isn't the only one that has a "is it, or isn't it?" circumcised penis. I honestly didn't know other men out there had half way circumcised ...
LentilEater ยท 318 points ยท Posted at 00:48:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its strange that we use the "un" prefix to describe a body part in its natural state
JackAceHole ยท 410 points ยท Posted at 01:01:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We should change the term to "Classic Cock"
LordSocky ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 01:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now introducing New Cock!
Internet_Adventurer ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 01:42:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For all you virgins, Cock Zero!
davideo71 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 01:57:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's nothing like the feeling of grabbing a fresh one and raising it to your lips.
Ryaman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, that's pretty true to be honest. I like that your comment doesn't specifically state positive emotion.
skip_churches ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should try the Penis Challenge.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that where you throw your backpack at a penis?
Doesnt-Comprehend ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:56:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cock au naturale
L_SeeD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But first we need to introduce our lady (or man) companions to New Cock, which we introduce promising it would be better. When it doesn't, we reintroduce Cock as Cock Classic
AboutToSnap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer "Cock Classic"
Ultrabarn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's apparently far more popular worldwide than "New Cock."
used2bflds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All natural.
[deleted] ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 02:07:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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RazorRex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:04:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
makes sure the shades are closed wtf you stalking me
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Make sure to tag /u/zoxpg as a stalker in RES so you recognize him in other threads.
PokiP ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:59:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent observation! I hadn't thought about that before!
moltenshrimp ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that weird though, if you consider that other medical conditions are diagnosed as negative if they don't deviate from the normal.
Matt872000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "un" in uncircumcised refers to the circumcision, it did not take place. It's exactly like "untouched wilderness" or "unspoiled forest."
moltenshrimp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That, too.
gregpxc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:58:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What would you call it then? The word circumcised describes the end result so naturally when having a discussion about it you would say you are either circumcised or uncircumcised. Just like something is either broken or not broken in a context where you describing something that's broken. You don't normally describe something as not broken, though, unless specifically discussing it.
LentilEater ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i feel like i have to walk on eggshells with this subject on reddit since its an american male dominated forum, but if we were to use breast augmentation as an example, we wouldnt call natural breasts unaugmented, we call them natural. 99% of the time circumcision is a completely unnecessary cosmetic surgery, one which has obvious negative affects and which the patient didnt even have a say in, which seems insane when you think of that way. yet we just accept it as the norm here in america.. for i dont even know what reason, honestly. tradition i guess. "his father was"
to me, it feels like putting UN at the beginning sort of implies that its "normal" to circumcise for no reason other than aesthetics, so the exceptions to the norm are UNcircumcised. it feels like the implication is that natural is not normal, while unnatural, or circumcised, is. in regards to that, its all backwards in america. it makes kids feel like theirs isnt "normal" because it wasnt cosmetically altered like all their friends. something as simple as calling one natural and the other circumcised would make a huge difference imo, because i mean really thats what they are.
the term uncircumcised just seems to have this implication tied to it that makes people (mainly kids) feel different or strange/not normal at a young age, for nothing other than having a natural functioning body part.
edit - i see "intact" was mentioned a few times, thats a good one too. the main point im trying to make (im shit with expressing ideas into words and im sorry) is that to use UN as the opposite to the "norm", carries an implication, that terms like intact or natural do not carry
Matt872000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Untouched wilderness, unspoiled terrain. Both are using un as an example of the natural...
aihley ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:52:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intact.
daemon_service ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:04:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd call it non-circumcised.
hilarymeggin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:05:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intact.
Justice_Prince ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 02:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe we can call them cocks, and improved cocks.
Wrylix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is which?
Justice_Prince ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The implication was that one was changed to make it better. Maybe I wasn't clear enough on that because I thought I would have had more downvotes by now.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bit of an cock expert are you?
Wrylix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the feeling that was what you meant - my point is that one isn't better than the other.
spiffiness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mitch All Together"
DigitalShards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Chairlegcharlie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We gave up the practice of making them icorns
Smruttkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corn on the cob.
waraukaeru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The proper terms are "intact" and "circumcised".
Though, if you restore your foreskin, then you are "uncircumcised".
Kered13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not how language works. It's very common that we use a word to describe an uncommon or unnatural state of affairs, and an "un-", "non-", "in-", or similar word to describe the natural or common state. This is because in the common state there is usually no need to specify at all, so there is no special word for it. The "un-" word is only used in explicit contrast to the unusual state.
CrashingScience ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Foreskinned and unforeskinned?
daemon_service ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
should be non.
macboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say because the "circumsized" adjective comes from having acted upon it? So we came up with the word for a dick that had been surgically altered. Then that got popular in the states so we had to ask people if they were or weren't. Though now that I think about it un- to me sounds like it could be replaced with de-, and a decircumsized dick just sounds super weird.
Matt872000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
de would normally refer to something that's been undone.
"degassing" refers to letting the gas out of something, "deconstruct" refers to taking something apart after it's been constructed.
Both of these require the original action of "gassing" or "constructing" to take place before the "de" words can.
macboot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, that's what I meant. Decircumsizing something would be really weird...
[deleted] ยท 180 points ยท Posted at 00:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remember, in Europe, we try to avoid genital mutilation in general (both boys and girls). You're not weird for your parents respecting your integrity enough to leave your dick alone.
daemon_service ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 01:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is that they can't mutilate a normal body part, like a finger or something, they absolutely have to go for the sexual organs like it's some sort of obsession.
uniptf ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:56:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, you're starting to understand.
horses_on_horses ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:24:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, in America we do plenty of orthodontic mutilation too.
nolo_me ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:27:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weirdest thing to me is the obsession with teeth being dazzling fluorescent white. I mean, you folks know that nothing natural is supposed to be that colour, right?
That-Beard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:13:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just want to be more like Richard Hammond
Alpacauno ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:29:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super white teeth is really off putting. I find it distracting when someones teeth are really white and perfectly straight. It looks so unnatural it really sticks out to me.
pochemy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
~ but the tv people look like that! ~
MrCatEater ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:58:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, European but I live in America. I know I'm not weird, but still.
staceromtegempleh ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 01:11:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking hate my parents for having that done to me. I wish I could get away with killing them.
MrCatEater ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't a healthy way to think mate. Do you want to talk about this? PM me.
FreedomFromIgnorance ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:17:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I could go back in time I'd tell my mom to get me circumcised, because being uncircumcised has many drawbacks in the US. The grass isn't always greener on the other side I guess.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:35:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What drawbacks may I ask? I'm a girl so I don't really understand completely. I've been with both circumcised and uncircumcised guys and I'm not bothered by either as long as it's kept clean.
With the circumcised ones I do feel bad because they've undergone genital mutilation.
_fups_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:21:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes. drawbacks.
I've never had a problem with the ladies..
FreedomFromIgnorance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:29:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My problems with being uncircumcised really have nothing to do with ladies disliking it (never got a negative comment).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FreedomFromIgnorance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you see below I discuss a sex injury I got that was primarily due to being uncircumcised. That's probably the worst drawback I've experienced.
Edit: comment disappeared, not sure why. The injury was a torn frenulum. Google it if you dare.
staceromtegempleh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:54:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can go get circumcised.
hilarymeggin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:12:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both our kids are girls, but if we had had a boy, we contemplated having it done for that reason.
FreedomFromIgnorance ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:45:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although I wish I was circumcised the fact is if I really wanted to I could still get it done as an adult. The fact I haven't might say something. I think it's a tough decision for any parent though, because it is genital mutilation if we're being honest. I think having parents who care enough to think about it critically is way more important than the decision to cut or not to cut.
r2u2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:57:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you that weak minded?
GOLDBONDvsBALLZ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have issues then. Severe issues. Because unless yours was botched, there's no reason to be mad about it. Your dick works just like it would regardless.
GOLDBONDvsBALLZ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:38:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the gesture, but that's such a weird passive aggressive way of almost shaming people who are cut. Like, I didn't choose to be circumcised, so why say my dick or any other cut guys was mutilated when it works perfectly fine?
a_birthday_cake ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:19:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the shaming is directed more at the parents than the person who was cut - like you said, you didn't choose to do it. If anyone actually blames the baby they're insane
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:25:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was mutilated because it was mutilated. That's not to say anything bad about cut men, it wasn't their choice (or, if it was their choice, then it wouldn't have been mutilation, just cosmetic surgery). I didn't say it didn't work the way it should. However, that's besides the point. It is cosmetic surgery, for no medical reason, on a child too young to consent.
Edit: way too young to consent
Alpacauno ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:34:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the parents and medical professionals who should feel shame. Glad you can still enjoy it, but it really isn't fine. It's not just "extra skin", there is no extra. It removes a functional nerve rich part. It would be about half of the skin gone in full grown adults dick.
Werkstadt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"perfectly fine" https://youtu.be/BgoTRMKrJo4
Bottompressure34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe for the next 20 years or so anyways. With Europe's declining birthrate and the massive influx of immigrants/migrants with their spectacular birthrates, your statement is less than accurate. 2025 Brussels is a majority Muslim city---think on that before touting the so-called enlightenment of European morality.
unidan_was_right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true, male genital mutilation is legal almost everywhere in Europe. (Edit: unlike the female variant)
Denmark and Norway were thinking about making it illegal but I don't think they went through.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:15:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but culturally we don't do it. The US does because idiots convinced everyone it stopped masturbation. Literally; the only reason that it started was to cut masturbation. All it really did was make more guys depend on moisturiser for a satisfying wank.
unidan_was_right ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just like the rate is decreasing in merica due to "latino" immigration, the rate in europe will increase due to muslim immigration
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rate in Australia is apparently increasing due to immigrants and the children of immigrants.
15%...still way too high...and the procedure and whole idea of cutting someone else's dick, especially a baby's dick, makes me want to wring the necks of whoever would inflict that torture on an infant.
unidan_was_right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet neither you nor anyone else does it.
I've never read about a crime motivated by circumcision. If that happened you can bet your ass doctors would think twice before doing it.
nugymmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never heard of a crime motivated by circumcision either.
But never worry about that. As more and more people realise that this disgusting practice is only done for the benefit of certain doctors and those who sell foreskins for skin cell cultures and skin testing purposes, and realise what is actually being done to babies, they might suddenly decide that getting rid of these people is worth it, even if they only manage to save one baby.
Dr_McKay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time it gains momentum, people point out the Jewish faith and politicians quickly back down for fear of appearing anti-semetic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never said it wasn't legal, just that most people would never do it (except some religious minorities).
[deleted] ยท -30 points ยท Posted at 02:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shut up. It's not genital mutilation snowflake.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It literally is though, especially since it's done to babies who can't say no.
NuclearRobotHamster ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, just like the majority of the planet.
FloppY_ ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 00:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever want to flip the situation upside down, come to Europe. Here it is the opposite.
I think
the U.S.North America is the only first world countries where genital mutilation of boys is the norm. Unless you count Israel as a first world country.yoiforgotmypassword1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:44:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
canada too
Dont-Fear-The-Raeper ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia too. Attended an all boys school for a short time.
And for that I have to wear this stupid ankle bracelet.
chance_waters ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only like 3% of Australians are circumcised
Dont-Fear-The-Raeper ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:44:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Not even close.
In recent years the rate of circumcision in Australia has fallen and it is now estimated that around 32 percent of Australian men under 30 are circumcised.
About one in six - or 8100 - infant boys in NSW were circumcised in 2012
The list goes on.
Don't for a second think I'm a proponent of cutting them off, as it's just a religious thing masked in a pseudo-science health reasoning. I'm a circumcised male who will not be subjecting that to his kids.
CaptnYossarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
32% does mean a majority are, however.
OneBigBug ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really have a strong opinion one way or the other, but in what possible universe are the reduced chances of contracting an STI or getting a UTI "pseudo-science"? I'll even accept that you might (though I'd disagree) think the science conducted was flawed, or that it is not conclusive enough, or clinically significant enough to warrant what you see as the costs. But it's not "pseudo-science", it's science-science.
Systematic reviews of randomized controlled trials published in reputable journals.
Dont-Fear-The-Raeper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a good read of the extract of the paper you linked. Specifically, the percentage of the study focusing on what we're talking about:
That's five percent of the whole study. The other 95% does not focus on that. And the findings:
This sounds rather conclusive, until you read the recommendations, again from the abstract.
You would do better to look for specific research around circumcision.
Saying that, I could be wrong - I looked into this three or four years ago and had read enough to be convinced it was more risk than reward, which is the key here, in much the same way as having an appendectomy merely because of a chance of appendicitis.
OneBigBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't really arguing for the merits of circumcision, I was arguing for the proposed merits of circumcision not being based on pseudo-science. The specific study may not be a clear argument that circumcision is great and everyone should do it, but it is actually science, in about as legitimate a form as exists.
Pseudo-science is shit like homeopathy, chiropractic, "biofields". Things that sound sorta science-y but aren't based on the actual scientific method. You may not agree with the people who use the science available as reasoning, but there is science available about circumcision, and there are arguments to be made for it based on that. It is not pseudo-science.
That said, it's a systematic review, so it's fairly reasonable for it to be broad in scope. It does however refer to 4 randomized controlled trials specifically about circumcision, some of whose outcomes it lists thus:
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow...so a group of men suffering from cognitive dissonance want to desperately believe that their mutilations were rightful and that they wanted to find justification for what happened to them. So they concoct up all these largely irrelevant studies to make themselves feel better about their own mutilation - and then condemn millions of future baby boys to this disgusting and treacherous act of brutality.
There is something that helps reduce STDs in men. It's called a condom.
OneBigBug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, well at least you've kept an open mind.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Underrated joke
I hope
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Underrated joke
I hope
dizzymizzlizzy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although not uncommon, I wouldn't say it's the norm. According to this, the Canadian average is 32%
http://www.cps.ca/documents/position/circumcision
I suppose in older people, it might be higher.
FWIW, I'm 31 and not circumcised.
Aristiana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
At last in my province. It's not offered at the hospital after birth, you have to go for private and pay for it. So the percentage of procedure is very, very low.
yoiforgotmypassword1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which province is that?
Rpizza ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:24:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am americans but my parents r European and I lived there as a kid. My husband and my son are as god made them. No genital mutilation for my American born son
SmaterThanSarah ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is becoming less common in the US. Although, I did have to fight with the hospital when they charged me for one for my son who didn't have it done.
Rpizza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:33:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god more Americans are getting it done. I wrestled for a minute with the thought that my son would be different. But that was a fleeting thought. That concept wasn't stronger then the concept of chopping skin off for vanity reasons.
mikronaut ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:40:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same!
Sometimesialways ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same!
Manakel93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:25:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having an intact dick is the norm in any country that isn't the US and Israel, thankfully.
eyybbygirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been with over 100 dudes and 2 weren't circumcised. Gallop free, you beautiful creature, you.
MrCatEater ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:16:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ, 100 is a massive number.
yeaheyeah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:51:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dryjackers unite!
gmarvin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too!
It'll almost be a shame when I get rid of it...
RadarLakeKosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel weird too, not because I'm uncircumcised (I'm not) but because apparently I was smart enough to deduce that since my penis didn't look like it had a hoodie on, that meant I was circumcised.
SisterHyde1888 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Over here you would just be Mister Average lol
MrCatEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a nice change to be called average for once.
SisterHyde1888 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I see you have a great sense of modesty too :)
XenoFractal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am as well and lemme tell you, younger teenage me was very confused as to why his dick looked different from the people in porn and if I would "grow into" my dick looking like that
DidyouSay7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Leave America. Uncircumcised is the norm
MrCatEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't have much of an option at the moment mate.
zordtk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't the only one, but yeah very few of us.
surg3on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
congratulations. Unicorns only like uncircumcised dicks!
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a female in the US and born in 1981. Most parents nowadays regardless of religion are leaving their sons intact. When I was a kid, they weren't. Some hospitals would automatically circumcise because it was so normalized. The majority of women I'm friends with have never even seen an uncircumcised male IRL, and guy friends from Europe and Africa who are uncircumcised have attempted hook ups with some American girls who simply won't go near it. The myth that uncircumcised penises are dirty and smelly still persists even in sitcoms and movies.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in North America...
akibaranger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that extra friction is kinda the best
genmischief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Preach the faith!
BrutusAurelius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree
Sofiapie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that you are, a perfect unicorn.
MrCatEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww, that actually made me smile :)
JesusIsMyZoloft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you had a horn growing out of your head, would you feel like a regular unicorn?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uncircumcised is so much more sexy, so lucky you!
Circumcised is.. a little bit sad...
DeadlyAussieBees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just look at that sock covered horn
margotdemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come to Argentina and you'll feel like in home hahaha. I can't believe there are so many circumcised people in the US. Here it's a really uncommon thing.
Spencer51X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh, you aren't when compared to the rest of the world. Americans are the weird ones, that's all.
ottrocity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you're getting laid, otherwise just a unicorn.
CheezyNipplez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
unicorn with a sock on its horn
Dinos_ftw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally.
Dsiee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it just seems to be Americans who live to cut up baby dick.
SeaCows101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same
nhc1117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear that
spear117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
ScandalousMrT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a failed circumsion. The doctor removed too little foreskin, so I pretty much have a turtleneck for my penis. I feel like I have the best of both worlds. The skin is warm, stylish and tactical, but the retractable top means I'm streamlined when it's time for action.
patchyskeleton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who just got circumcised as an adult I want to die
spazzvogel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some strange reason it was the trendy thing to do in America in at least the late 70s early 80s, my timeframe
Kristaboo14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Circumcision rates are falling drastically every year in the US. The rest of the world thinks we're idiots for still doing this barbaric nonsense - routinely- to baby boys.
Slipsonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I'm proud to have the full extent of my wang the way nature intended. I need as much as I can get, why chop some off?
[deleted] ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 23:55:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought my husband had a small penis. Turned out he was uncircumcised and I'd never seen one before.
[deleted] ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 23:59:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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RealMattMilan ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:15:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
zing
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:11:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw an image seres of a man who was barely 3 inches flaccid and over 7 hard.
NoFapMat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:24:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, mine too. Over 7 hard, depending on temperature, anywhere from 2 inches to 5.5 inches flaccid.
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:02:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the pic. (Very damn NSFW)
NoFapMat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:05:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy has either smaller than average hands, or he's bigger than 7inches. Looks more like 7.5 to 8 inches.
But yea, not that surprising. I can get even smaller than that flaccid if I came out of an ice bath.
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I might've been too awestruck to estimate size properly.
proweruser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you know what 7 inches looks like...
Probably skewed perspective from too much porn, where they always add 2-3 inches. In some cases (mandingo) even 5.
NoFapMat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm over 7 inches. Was comparing to my own hand to dick ratio.
Jess_than_three ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow!
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awestruck? Yeah, me too.
Finie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why you don't fap? Get lightheaded?
NoFapMat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:59:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty funny :D
Nah, I don't fap because I actually lost all interest in women, and prefered pornography and masturbation to real sex. I couldn't explain it.
I tried going 100 days without masturbating or porn, and started enjoying sex again. Basically, masturbating and porn desensitized me to naked women, and I wasn't getting turned on.
So for me personally, not masturbating gives me a healthy sex life.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad you figured it out. :)
Tvs-Adam-West ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like me.
davideo71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'a bit'? No need to rub it in!
or actually there probably is...
sorry
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only a little bit of it, though.
magic_beans_talk ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:22:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't judge a dick til it's hard.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Breaker32 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's called an average - but even if the average means most are roughly the same length it also means there are others that are not the same length. The human body has variations with almost every part bro.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dason37 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever...watched porn? There is certainly an average size, but to get that average, there's a lot close to the average and some a lot smaller, and some a lot larger. If the Batting average for the national league is .250, does that mean everyone's batting between .245 and .255 and there's no possible way anyone could hit .300? I don't know what you're trying to say, but it ain't a fact.
Breaker32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy gets it.
Last time I checked the average erect penis length was 5.5 inches (not sure what it is now), that means there's a lot that are between 5-6 inches and the rest are outside of that range, but even the ones within that range will vary and they are not all the same length.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Breaker32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"True facts: most men erect to the same size. It doesn't matter the size of your flacid peen"
Same is same. If you're speaking in less than accurate terms don't say they're the same, say something like they're roughly the same, something that implies a loose similarity and not an exact similarity. An easy example is colours - if I say something is sky blue I mean sky blue, if I say it is blue I could mean any number of different shades of blue.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Breaker32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you've just got the problem where you've stated an average - the point of which is unclear. Yes, there is an average length for the erect penis. Most men have an average length while the other men do not. Your statement completely ignores the men who are outside of the average range - they exist and they are a large number.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Breaker32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happens if one of those guys in the locker room has a 10 inch and another has a 2 inch? And all the guys are immature enough to think that it's an indication of they're overall worth?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dason37 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time you try to prove your point with "they're all the same, but some are different" what are you even trying to prove? No mammals can fly, except those that can. It's a fact.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:13:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, if that was a fact it'd be true?
ElectronaRhea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to a false fact?
hilarymeggin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should we tell him?
obeysanta ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 00:17:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being uncircumcised certainly shouldn't make it appear smaller than it is... If anything it's the opposite. They have more to work with down there.
mildlyEducational ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:23:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A tree looks smaller if the foliage is covered.
hilarymeggin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:43:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the foliage covered with? A tarp?
mildlyEducational ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:02:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I, uh... I didn't really think through the practicalities here. I wasn't really expecting a follow-up question.
krone6 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:41:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I read it can make the penis smaller as there's less callous material built up since the foreskin is covering it. Note I am not talking overall size but the size of the penis itself and is only what I've read.
Source: Interwebs
Forest-G-Nome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it they definitely look much smaller.
Source; GAF
HopPros ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:23:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's GAF mean?
WannieTheSane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gave A Fuck?
alyymarie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting. My first partner was pretty big, and it took me a few months to even realize he was uncircumcised since he was my first. One day I just asked him straight out because I wasn't sure.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does that affect size?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was kinda cold so it was retracted. It didn't actually affect the size, just how I saw it.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a feeling this conversation is one of the kind OP asked about. You didn't know about growers and showers before?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in those terms. Maybe that's what I get for only sleeping with two people in my life. It's not like it's taught in sex ed.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough then.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:52:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont see how the hell could that be related
deadlymoogle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to most americans a normal penis is circumcised
77ate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people [in the US] don't have the context [for a great many things happening outside the US]...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me wonder if double dick dude's parents contemplated doing just one on em'?
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I had no idea they were supposed to be so small!
VictoryScreech23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: My dad is an ICU pediatric doctor and showed my brother at 7 years old what a circumsized penis looked like by using good ol' Google Images
Sochitelya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Google it, out of curiosity, and got burn victims and infant penises. I feel like I'm on a list somewhere now.
Mr_Gilmore_Jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You guys just prompted me to look that up and now I know I'm circumcised.
Jescro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mispelt Pornhub
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I knew how I would strike out wikipedia replace it with pornhub, we all know it was pornhub.
seasonalcrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It reminds of these things we used to play with when we were kids. They were like Chinese finger locks, but filled with water. I used to love playing with those ridiculous things.
Still do.
AtheosWrath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the case for the world. Most men in the world arn't circumcised.
downonthesecond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a male, I only look at one penis, mine.
horkkanyrkki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why the hell is it so common in US? Here in Finland, and I bet the most of Europe the only reason would be medical, i.e. If the foreskin is so tight it won't move back. How is this any different from vagina mutilation that is being tried to stop all over the world?
iusedtoexercise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I had to be told by a girlfriend back in high school that I was circumcised because I didn't know it.
TheRocketSurgeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people don't live in a supposedly modern country that somehow mutilates babies for purely cosmetic reasons by default. Disgusting practice.
krone6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god for the internet as it was until I was 20'ish I even knew what a foreskin was.
AlmightyCheeseLord ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:05:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the PATIENT yelled that at you, I was confused...
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:37:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was a birth mark for way too long
SerCiddy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:21:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that brown ring... I thought it was darker below the ring because i masturbated so much, that ring was just the line where my hand ended while holding it. I was like 17 before I realized I was circumcised.
OutOfPlaceSam ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly did not know that was a scar. I'm a woman. I'm looking at my husband's pens tonight.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:12:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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OutOfPlaceSam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:30:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fountain, that thing just shoots out all willy nilly. (Haha)
fuckingtemperance ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:12:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in my teens i thought it was a tan line.
Kigarta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explain that reasoning in the winter.
fuckingtemperance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh there was no reasoning involved. i was just so naive, a farmers tan was the only thing i could relate it to.
rls13 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to say that before this comment I didn't know if my husband was circumcised or not. He didn't either. He's a grower not a shower. The brown ring makes it evident that he is circumcised. Thank you
cpt_pancreas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:14:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally how is this so difficult. Look at his penis, can you actually see the glans and head when he's not erect or doing anything with it. If yes, then he's circumcised. It's not a five page multiple choice test or something.
ShitDuchess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If there is skin hanging around the fore front of his penis, that means he has a foreskin. I can imagine if you hadn't yet seen your partner's penis flaccid not knowing, but flaccid penis is easy.
rls13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:37:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is difficult for someone who grew up sheltered and has little experience with penises in real life. You don't have to be so condescending.
cpt_pancreas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, this was just at least the 20th comment I'd seen like this and really its more your husband not knowing either that I'm confused by. I just don't get how so many people act like this is such a revelation for them when the way to know is simply to look down.
rls13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't know because his parents never discuss things like that and did a horrible job of teaching their children anything that would enable them to be independent. And it's not like he's checking out other dude's dicks and asking if they are circumcised.
lukeskywalkerscousin ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what that is!! I've wondered for so long
EstebanL ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh Jesus Christ no. Not like this...
DiminutiveD ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:34:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uhh, whoa. I'm in my twenties and I never noticed the 'ring' until you mentioned it just now.
In my defence, there's not really a scar. It's just a colour change
Spyger9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm convinced now that my circumcision was very conservative. There's no ring, the color change is gradual and natural looking, half of the head is covered when flaccid and with a little tugging there's enough foreskin to cover it even when erect.
I've seen a few that have no extra skin when erect, and some of those look like too much meat in too small a sleeve. They make me wince, but is that what normal circumcision is supposed to look like?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Spyger9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I checked out "restoring" a couple years ago; very intriguing. I'd be all over that if my erect dick looked like a drawn bow.
As I said though, I have plenty despite being circumcised. People argue that glans keratinization is a big deal, but there's no conclusive evidence on that. It's all about the O anyway, and that's internal.
Trevski ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I concur. It just looks like a natural seam between the shaft and the "neck"
CaptainMurphyDUCK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:41:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pfshh, mine are stretch marks.
OnePieceTwoPiece ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:51:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it would be a poop ring.
Temporomandibular ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I'm gonna be honest right now I'm 20 and I thought my brown ring was unique to me I had no idea it was a scar... you just changed my life
GoogleIsMyJesus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never knew that.
bedroom_fascist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A scar of his mum's butt-ring ...
RasKunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pulls out dick and looks for brown ring
Definitely a beauty mark
tinycherrypie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CHRIST I'm sick right now so this laughing fit has turned into a coughing fit. Worth it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
FlamingTacoDick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....Ohh. that.. Oh. fuck you just blew my god damned mind I thought that was just a mark there for every person and was normal
under_depreciated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i just had to whip mine out and look for this. HOLY SHIT ITS BEEN THERE ALL MY LIFE IVE SEEN IT SO MANY TIMES AND JUST NEVER KNEW WHAT IT WAS
Scipio11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhhhhh. I thought mine was just fucked up, dicks are weird.
Myrshall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I'm circumcised, and I of course know what that is, but I never once realized that that brown ring is a scar. I never even thought about it at all.
DocGerbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wtf, did they actually cut into it? arent they just supposed to cut the skin?
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's where the two raw edges of skin grow together.
riceofearth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
REVELATION HOLY SHIT
anonkingdragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one tells us what it is! For many years I thought it was because I was half black half white for some reason. Then around 16 or so I finally put the two together. To this day I'm not sure how I figured out that it was a circumcision scar, just clicked one day.
citoloco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit, I didn't know that ring was a scar. Never exactly came up in conversation I guess, heh.
OkArmordillo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what the brown ring is?
Forest-G-Nome ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:08:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a good cut won't leave a scar.
markko79 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:10:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it depends on a couple of things. First, aftercare by the parent using Vaseline gauze and good cleaning after a dirty diaper is most important. Second, if it's a tight cut with little loose skin, an infantile erection prior to healing that opens the wound can make for a wider scar.
CSMom74 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen my share of circumcised penises in person, up close. Never saw a scar. Or a brown ring.
Not to mention the three circumcised sons I have.
Raknith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because you've never noticed the scar doesn't mean circumcision doesn't leave a scar. If you want I'll send you a picture of mine right now.
CSMom74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go for it. I'm wondering if the doc messed up. Surely I'd have noticed a scar on one of them.
Raknith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_scar
CSMom74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never seen anything like that. The scar or the change in color like that. I will have to start examining them more closely.
Alpacauno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably just don't recognize what you're seeing as a scar. Before I knew it was a scar I thought it was just a normal color change.
It's impossible for there not to be a scar. A lot of people think it's removing extra skin, but there is no extra skin. During circumcision a lot of skin is removed. In an adult it would be about 15 square inches.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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wofo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most men in America are circumcised, and as far as many people know, it is a standard practice with many health benefits. Even for someone who suspects it's unnecessary, cirumcision is probably they only thing they are familiar with and they know it works fine and is normal (to them). For them, going without is the new thing with potential risks, so they decide that they want their kids to resemble the only normal they have ever seen.
Alpacauno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't get how people think there are health benefits. It's easier to clean? Brushing your teeth is harder.
CSMom74 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, whatever. I'm not here to debat circ v uncirc. My 23-year-old and 17-year-old don't seem to mind or be traumatized. I'll post back in 15 years and let you know how my 3-year-old feels about it. Point is, never seen a scar.
Also, I had the 17-year-old's tonsils removed, along with his adenoids when he was almost 3. How is that okay, and the other isn't?
Werkstadt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please watch this. https://youtu.be/BgoTRMKrJo4
I can confirm that my most sensitive is where guys are cut
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember being really young and not fully knowing what it was and watching that scene in Robinhood Men in Tights where Mel Brooks's character uses a miniature guillotine to cut off the tip of a carrot to demonstrate the new circumcision "fad". So that certainly fueled the confusion.
awesomeificationist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what confused me too! I didn't figure it out (thanks Wikipedia!) until I was probably 15.
SuperFraz ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:49:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why so many people circumcised anyway? I thought it was a Jewish thing and there certainly arent that many Jews in america.
SidusObscurus ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:11:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Widespread religious views made lots of people not want to clean their children's penises. This easily led them to believe rumors that it was cleaner and healthier to circumcise your child; it was basically a widely accepted "fact" in the US. I believe it started in the very late 1880-90s, and gained a lot of traction in the 1910s with syphillus, and solidified with the AIDs epidemic, circumcision was rumored to prevent/reduce the chance of AIDs infection, as well as many other infections.
Of course that is all bullocks.
Anyway, now we are here.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ZoDeFoo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:58:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or rather, eating breakfast cereal rathwr than steak and eggs would weaken men's sex drive .
BananaJammies ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The HIV transmission thing is legit, but obviously it's much easier to just wear a condom like a rational human being.
Jijster ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:55:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can someone explain to me how? What is the physical mechanism by which a removed foreskin reduces the risk of HIV infection?
BananaJammies ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I believe it's because the foreskin kind of traps fluids and thus the virus, giving it a longer window of opportunity to make its way into your body.
Jijster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok that makes some sense. But... if we're talking unprotected sex with an HIV positive person... I'm assuming it's like a 1-2% difference or something like that
BananaJammies ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This study showed that it cut the risk by about half.
nugymmer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit study. In America there is a much higher rate of HIV than in Europe...yet in Europe the circumcision rate is a mere tiny fraction of what it is in the USA.
The study is a bunch of sophisticated bullshit that only really applies in 3rd world conditions, and even then it's a fucking crapshoot.
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This "bullshit" study is from Baltimore, which last I checked is in the United States. I'm not saying Americans should circumcise their kids but peoples' ability to reject legit science that they just don't like really grinds my gears.
FYI - Europeans receive better safe sex education at school than Americans do, and as a result are much less likely to contract STIs writ large. When you're wearing a condom it doesn't matter whether or not you're circumcised.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the consensus is that better sexual health education is far more important than circumcision in promoting sexual health.
Nobody should have any right to cut an infant's genitals unless there is an urgent medical justification. People already go to prison for cutting girl's vulvas, so why should cutting boy's penises for inappropriate reasons not also be punishable by law?
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:17 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not an argument about whether circumcision should be promoted. The poster said that the idea of circumcision preventing aids was some wacky idea in the 80s. I replied that it is not a wacky theory, it is legit science, but that it is much easier to just wear a condom. I don't know why anyone who points out one single benefit to circumcision as a means of correcting a non-factual statement is somehow waging a pro-circumcision campaign. Calm the eff down.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:01 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with this assumption is that those who are making up all this crap are very influential people in respected positions of trust. So people trust them implicitly even though they are promoting flawed arguments.
proweruser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
easy: it doesn't
dirtyMAF ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:04:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The HIV claim is made by flawed studies performed in Africa in the late 70s and early 80s. http://www.circumcision.org/hiv.htm
BananaJammies ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This study was conducted by a CDC physician based on data compiled in Baltimore in the mid 90s. It also found that circumcision was associated with reduced HIV risk.
Edit: emphasis
nugymmer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh huh, so that's why Europe has a lower rate of HIV, yet they refuse to mutilate their infant son's private parts.
Nah. Circumcision started because it was designed to reduce masturbation or at least reduce sexual sensitivity...well, there you go. Then the "scientists" who wanted to justify why the most sensitive part of their dicks were removed, conducted "studies" to prove that their mutilation was not a mutilation.
Cognitive dissonance in all its glorious colors.
Oh, and that CDC physician probably has a mutilated penis...well, that would go a long way to understanding why he wanted to prove that his terrible loss was in fact beneficial...when it wasn't.
It's called Stockholm Syndrome...just under another name. That is all.
Isoldael ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:06:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I agree with you, I have to point out that correlation != causation. We could have lower HIV rates here due to many other factors, even if circumcision did lower the risk of contracting HIV.
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That kind of broad dismissal is no way to debunk an argument. Europe and America are apples and oranges. Perhaps (!) Europe has lower HIV rates because their schools actually provide comprehensive sex ed! If people are using condoms when they have sex, it doesn't matter whether or not they're circumcised.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it doesn't matter whether or not they are circumcised, that using a condon is the most effective measure at preventing or curbing STDs then all that illustrates is the stupidity of cutting an infant's genitals outside of immediate medical justification.
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:50 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not an argument about whether or not circumcision is a good idea. The poster said that the idea it prevents aids was some wacky idea from the 80s. That is untrue and I corrected him/her saying that there is actually legit science to back that up. Pointing out a single benefit to circumcision does not equate to promoting or condoning it. Take the time to read what I wrote without letting your own emotions about the issue take over and you will see that I have never said circumcision is a good idea or something worth promoting.
proweruser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The CDC... only medical orginisation in the west that still recommends circumcision. All other medical orginisations strongly advice against it.
Could it possibly be because circumcision is a billion dollar a year industry in the US? Nah, I'm sure that's just a coincidence. When has lobbying money ever influenced anybody?
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can oppose circumcision all you want -- you're not wrong -- but when you reject legitimate science because it doesn't fit with your own world view you seriously undermine the argument you're trying to make.
Schnort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One would think...but no.
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm... the science says yes. Why should I take your word for it?
Schnort ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
some people find it impossible to wear a condom.
I think they're idiots, but they exist
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, agree 100%.
brzantium ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL over 40% of the world's Jews live in the US.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So...many Jews are turning against cutting...called a Brit Shalom where there is no cutting.
anonymous1512 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did so because I had phimosis and sexual enjoyment is near zero if I keep my glans up, or it's painful when I retract it. I haven't done the PIV deed post-op yet, but hand parties feel fucking amazing, like I can orgasm in the middle and cum twice in 30 seconds before I'm spent.
*EDIT:* Typo
xXCurry_In_A_HurryXx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could have used steroid creams and stretching.
anonymous1512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried it... Once it shrunk back down, it shrunk tighter than before, plus I didn't like the funk it produced, plus more vigorous thrusts made it slip back down and would often bring the condom with it... I hated having to doubt myself when sex started feeling too good, not to mention it takes away from the spontaneity of a quickie... "Hold on, I gotta retract" doesn't sound sexy at all when she's all over you.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked up that exact question. Here. Now you too can learn more than you ever wanted to know about male circumcision.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All there in it's vile and disgusting form...should be banned and people thrown into prison for it...if it were up to me I'd probably execute them - painfully.
somanybutts ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:53:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So when I was growing up, I knew that circumcision was when they cut off a bit of the end of your weenie. I didn't know if I was or not (I am),and felt it would be awkward to ask.
It just so happened that the first time I ever saw an uncircumcisedโ donger was in sixth grade. A friend of mine turned around at the urinal and swung his business at me for a laugh, and it looked like he'd had the head of his doodle cut off. It was just under the foreskin, but back then I didn't know what that was.
So from that moment until I was like... fifteen? I assumed I was uncircumcised because I still had the end of my rainbow.
sirloafalot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:57:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm cracking up! My own step-son thought the same thing! I was in shock...like, he's a smart guy and yet had no idea what circumcision involved. We argued about it for like, ten minutes until his older sister showed him a picture of a joke lipstick and he was like "oh, yeah...I guess that's what it looks like."
PlutonPress ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:38:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clinical error, went into ER to get circumcised because of rash, came out without tip.
A month later, they reattached it.
Centurion4 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:43:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait so it's naa....
Googles
IM CIRCUMCISED?!?! That's what a penis is supposed to look like?!
wofo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should probably google what they look like erect, too, or you'll get s whole new set of wrong ideas.
PM_ME_MAGIC_TRICKS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. TIL.
dangerbiscuits ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:33:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I blame "Men in Tights"...
frenchtoast_crunch ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:52:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly related story. When my fiance was an infant and was getting circumcised, they cut his dick head off. But if that isnt bad enough, when they put it back on, it was backwards. They fixed it as soon as they could and his dick is fully operational but still.
SirRupert ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may be the first time I've ever thought "damn, I want to see a pic of that guys dick"
waraukaeru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perfect example of why routine infact circumcision needs to be stopped.
popisfizzy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That could have been a close friend of mine before a couple years ago. I corrected him on that one as soon as I found out.
kingeryck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid I thought the weird head was from circumcision. Like they cut off the rest and peeled it back to make it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have a penis but my vagina cringed in sympathy at the thought.
Megaman1981 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was young, that's what I thought it meant, and I thought I was uncircumcised. Now, I was probably high school age or younger, so I don't know how old the guy you knew was.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Special today, half off!
I'll take two!
KilosunWS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who also thought this, and therefore thought he was not circumcised. I offered to show him my penis to see what actual non-circumcision looks like, but called his mom to ask if he was circumcised instead. He was, to his surprise. I however, was not surprised.
wh1t3_rabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was me until I was 13 and reading one of my female friends Girlfirend/Dolly magazines and it showed a drawing comparing circumcised vs uncircumcised penis. I genuinely believed "circumcision is when you cut off the head of the penis". It wasn't until like a year later that we'd be taught the same thing in Health/PE.
cheeseburgerwaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought this until I was like 16, when I finally saw hardcore porn. I'm a dude, and also circumcised. I had only seen an uncircumcised cock once in my life and it was my friend when we were young and taking a piss. He was from a different country so I was like "oh man. That must be what circumcision is. They cut the head of his dick off in his country!!" He just hadn't pulled back the foreskin to pee so I thought the head was gone.
Father33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That made me wince.
ela6532 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female here: Just laughed WAAAAY too hard at the image of a penis with no head. It was mostly a fear-laugh I think. Picturing the worm from spongebob...
Kurenai999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I used to think, for some reason. I'm American, maybe obviously...
mmpb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Just the tip"
Jatrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's Seinfeld's fault. Elaine had that one line, "off with their heads". This was pre-internet, so I had to ask my mother if I was circumcised.
Gg101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought when I was younger. Follow my logic:
I knew circumcision was cutting something off the end of your penis. I also knew it was a Jewish thing, hearing plenty of references/jokes about someone's bris on TV. I can think of a Seinfeld episode and a South Park episode off the top of my head. It's always portrayed as a Jewish thing, and I'm not Jewish, so why would I be circumcised? And if I'm not, what's there to cut off but the head?
So yeah, I eventually figure it out, and I'm like "if most Americans are circumcised, why the fuck is it always portrayed as a Jewish thing?"
BenjaminGeiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't realize I was circumcised until my late teens.
I thought it was something specific to Jewish people. Since I'm not Jewish, I figured I wasn't circumcised. So, when references were made to "foreskin", I thought that referred to what I later figured out was the glans.
(FYI, I do in fact have a mushroom, not an anteater.)
Sputnik003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, how are you 99% sure he is? Lol
wofo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"When you were in the showers, did yours look like most of the others there?" "...yes." "Then I am pretty sure you are circumcised."
That being said, I didn't actually look.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a pediatric resident, I've been tasked with getting the consent forms done for the newborns whose parents want them to be circumcised. I had my prepared schpiel about what the minor risks and benefits are and how it is completely optional and we don't recommend for or against, etc. The attending on that rotation told me that I needed to start out by asking the parents to tell me in their own words "what is a circumcision". So many of them thought that the tip of the penis would be cut off, and yet they still wanted to get it!
Schnort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, morons keep describing it as 'cutting off the tip'
SpankMeDaddy22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shit you not, I work with a 55 year old man who thinks a circumcision is exactly the head cut off.
wofo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a hard misconception to correct in a real-world relationship. "Boss,you don't understand how wrong you are. It is very important to me that you look at these pictures of penises."
nimbusnacho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend d I. College thought the foreskin came out of your urethra like an umbrella. She wasn't a virgin at all and claimed to have been with an uncircumcised man before that.
Sadesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking cringed at the thought of that even though I don't own a penis.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who thought this until his junior year of college
Desmoquattro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you just cut off some other lame part of a babies genitals.
tehweave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before I was old enough to understand sex, I thought circumcision was removing your testicles as a baby.
"But how do circumcised people make children?"
I honestly to this day have no idea how I came to this conclusion.
SolarisIX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Genuinely thought this for many years when I was a kid/early teen. Course, the Mormons weren't exactly fond of sex Ed. Hell they let me think babies were made by kissing/swapping saliva until I was in 7th grade. Then i had gym.
anonymous1512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds of when I was bored and went on Best of Craigslist one day a long time ago... Seems a bit too fake to be true, but I remember laughing for a good while at this:
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/239478683.html?lang=en&cc=us
pirateninjamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Robinhood men in tights causes that confusion. I was confused about that too for a bit when I was like 10.
Soviet_Cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit that's what I thought it was in 9th grade... I had read it from some weird circumcision indian tribal practice and I thought that is what it meant...
Aaronp6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=574_1406676187 Well I mean sometimes. Edit: Sorry, on mobile. Just Google African Circumcision.
rawfodog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow my dick actually crawled inside me and won't come back out. Thanks a lot doc.
Traumajunkie971 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair I thought this when I was 13 lol
heyIfoundaname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:45:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but it's equivalent is female genital mutilation.
Random_act_of_Random ยท 245 points ยท Posted at 23:45:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a special snowflake then.
(gotta thank my dad for that one, the doctor asked him if he wanted me circumcised and he just said, "no, why do you need to touch his dick at all"
Isredel ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 00:24:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something similar with my mom. They tried to assure her that the baby doesn't feel it anyway and even showed her how it was done. She told them she was pretty sure that the screaming baby felt it.
[deleted] ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 00:55:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it hurts. After I was circumsized, I couldn't walk for a year.
WanderingWinston ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You rascal
past_butnotgone ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:28:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Supposedly (learned in school) that if you circumcise a newborn, it wouldn't remember the pain and it also stops crying after a few minutes. And continue eating, peeing, laughing, sleeping. So the medical community sort of justified it. But it's suppose to be extremely painful and slow healing if you do it as an adolescent, so physicians recommend doing it at birth, not delay it, if the parents are certain they want to do it.
Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:15 on June 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm cut and I dont remember it...
IAmNotAnImposter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's uncomfortable for a few weeks but it's not too bad. The worst part is the sensitivity
Christiaan31 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, it felt pretty painful the first few days after for me, but it's probably different for every case. Anyway, I'm from a country that doesn't normally circumsize babies, but do those newborns get anesthetized? I imagine the pain is magnitudes greater if they aren't.
razorbladecherry ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've gathered from my anti-circumcision friends, no. They don't anesthesize the infants.
waraukaeru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's dangerous to anesthetize an infant.
razorbladecherry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is. I was just answering the question of whether or not the use anesthesia for circumcision.
past_butnotgone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:48:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yea...they give a bit sugar water so the baby gets a bit happier (they love the stuff) and won't cry too much
Norma5tacy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:14:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what my mom thought too. "I'm not gonna put my little baby through that".
oneshot32 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:37:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Luckily my parents didn't believe in it. When my sister was pregnant I told her if it's a boy, don't have him circumcised.
Gravesh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, same. I hate being uncircumcised in the US. It's so unusual and embarrassing because of it. If I had good insurance I'd get it removed but c'est la vie, I guess.
EDIT: Downvoted? It's an opinion. Not everyone likes having their foreskin.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:57:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, your ding dong feels less without the foreskin. Also it feels weird. I have a fucking phimosis and wouldnt chop it off
Gravesh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:03:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I also have phimosis and would definitely chop it off. I couldn't care less about feeling. Just sounds like I can last longer!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:17:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a frenuloplasty
Gravesh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I want to be circumcised then that is my decision. It's just that, but I find it to be more aesthetically pleasing.
Rakonas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually the opposite is true in practice. You have less control to put it off
Gravesh ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Well TIL.
waraukaeru ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://tlctugger.com/phimosis-summary-and-treatment/
Information about how to treat phimosis without resorting to circumcision.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:09:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tagrineth ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:57:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"look like everyone else in the locker room" is such a disgusting rationalization of a barbaric practice and creates a psychological catch-22 trap that perpetuates things for a laughably stupid reason.
proweruser ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:02:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah because they can't really complain that the local anesthesia isn't doing jack shit, on account that they can't talk yet. That's a great justification.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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proweruser ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:32:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they experts like my dentist? Because for some reason he always has to ram 2-3 syringes in there before I actually can't feel the drill anymore. Luckily I'm an adault and can complain when it doesn't work. Babbies aren't that lucky. (and just fyi I've been through quite a few dentists and he's by far the best)
Also if it works so well why can't adults be circumcised with only local anesthesia?
[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 02:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:03:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, in some SE Asian countries they cut up baby girl's genitals too. They use a nerve block. It isn't that bad.
Or is it?
Really not that bad to deliberately slice off the most sensitive part of an infant's dick?
I'd say it's bad. Almost on the level of rape.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nugymmer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:07:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None of the arguments used to justify circumcision stand up to scrutiny. Arguments mean nothing when you're violating the rights of an infant - especially their sex organs.
I expect there to be a growing hatred against people who do this to infants in the future. I can see why too.
I dont give a shit about anesthetics. If they anesthetised baby girls before cutting off parts of their genitals, would you be happy with that? Nah.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Irrespective of our own personal viewpoints, it is still the deliberate destruction of an important sensory and mechanical function of the penis.
If people go to prison for cutting baby girl's genitals then they should also go to prison for doing similar things to baby boys.
proweruser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually go into shock. Don't know where you got the fairy tale of the magic "nerve block" from.
[deleted] ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 00:17:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Jealousy123 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:59:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is stupid because a dick is just like any other part of the human body and should be checked over by the doctor at birth to look for abnormalities.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:59:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Jealousy123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which coincidentally also applies to all of his body as well.
beeyonca ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:55:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can thank your dad for all the upvotes you received.
Random_act_of_Random ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll get right on that lol
pizzahut91 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna use that line if/when I have a son.
FactuallyInadequate ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 00:17:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's unusual. Being in Britain I only know of one person who was circumcised. Is there a medical benefit to it?
Edit: Spelling
glassdarkly33 ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 01:06:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Circumcision is so common in America because of Victorian era doctors wanting to curb masturbation. Corn Flakes (the breakfast cereal) was also created for this reason and was created by the same guy that pushed so hard for circumcision in America, John Harvey Kellogg.
See more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg
For example -
Also, the most predictable factor for a boy being circumcised is if his father is circumcised. This is why it has persisted.
Kelpsie ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:26:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes on them, I'm circumcised and literally never stop masturbating.
Help.
BoxOfDust ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it didn't work. I masturbate just fine, even before I figured out I was circumcised.
chikaleen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. TIL.
downonthesecond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idle hands are the Devil's workshop. I can see people taking that the wrong way.
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 01:49:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No matter what people might tell you when this question is asked ( many people like to stretch a lot of truths to feel less weird for being circumcised), there is no significant benefit to it unless your foreskin is too tight to function properly.
As long as you wash your dick like a normal human being you're no worse off. In fact, you have an advantage from your in tact nerve endings.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:00:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also when its too tight you can fix that by cutting some of it off in a diamond shape and stitching it back toghether so its not so tight anymore. But 2 of my doctors didnt mention that it could be done, they only said i cam cut it all off. I had to learn it on fckn reddit
waraukaeru ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:53:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are also methods for stretching and expanding the foreskin to cure phimosis that many doctors are unaware of.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:20:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeab but you have keep doing it even after you stretched it enough. So ill be getting a frenuloplasty. I almost got it circumsised because 2 doctors didnt know it was a thing...
kungtotte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:24:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And phimosis (the medical condition of having an unretractable foreskin) can't be properly diagnosed until your mid to late teens (17-18) because of differences in development between boys. As in, you could be having problems retracting it at age 15, but it will resolve itself by age 18.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 02:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
Well, the mericans will proceed to tell you that it prevents about 5,000 penis infections yearly all over the usa. Infections easily treated with topical antibiotics or antiseptics.
What they won't tell you is that "That's all" and that infant circumcision literally kills about a handful of infants in the usa every fucking year from complications.
danceoftheplants ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are some really orthodox Jewish Rabbis that after they perform the circumcision, they suck the baby's penis which leads to infection.
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/controversial-circumcision-ritual-among-ultra-orthodox-jews-is-unacceptable-says-mohel-6708107
FactuallyInadequate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:12:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh damn, I didn't think it produced 'complications'
cattaclysmic ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:40:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much any surgical treatment has a risk of complications. Every time you get an IV placed in a vein there's a risk of infection, sepsis and thrombosis for instance - its minimal but there.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:16:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This site claims it's "over a 100 per year" while the American Society of Pediatricians says:
Given that each year about a million newborn circumcisions are performed in the usa i am certain that each year at least one infant dies from bleeding out through a medically unnecessary cut on its penis.
WhatsThatSkaSong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:08:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all of them.
Ginger-saurus-rex ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's some evidence that circumcision can reduce the chances of transmitting/receiving the HIV virus by a very small amount. Of course the chances fall to nearly zero when wearing a condom so what's the point? It can also be used to treat very severe phimosis, but that's very rare. It's an outdated procedure that, in my opinion, blatantly violates basic bodily autonomy and should be phased out entirely.
Come_along_quietly ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I'm still not sure why people don't see it for what it is ... genital mutilation.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can be slightly cleaner too but either way it's the same kinda thing... just wash yo dick.
Ginger-saurus-rex ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:09:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, it takes me about five seconds in the shower and it's clean as a whistle.
timm1blr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And blows like one too
Mardoniush ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:37:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Apparently it used to be common in Australia among protestants for a couple of decades after WW2. (Catholics take the Council of Jerusalem as discouraging the practice.) Stopped in the 60's.
No one does it now unless they have a specific religious reason, and there's a push to restrict it further, it's just odd and slightly creepy that the US still does.
beeyonca ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:55:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea EVERYONE in the US does it. It's barbaric.
thtrf ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse, they don't use the metric system
beeyonca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which would be more accurate to use if you're snipping a baby's foreskin.
lizzyhuerta ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:32:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe me, I certainly didn't. My husband is uncut and there was no way in HELL I was going to let anyone do anything to my baby's penis that involved cutting off part of it.
FactuallyInadequate ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all heroes wear capes.
I hope your child appreciates what he's got.
lizzyhuerta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:49:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's still little, but maybe in the future :) Thank you for the kind words!
past_butnotgone ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's no significant medical benefit. A few decades/century ago, people were certain that there are a ton of medical benefits like it's cleaner, reduces infections, et al. But it's been proven false.
PM-Your-Tiny-Tits ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Born in the US and only found out I was circumcised when I was sat in UK sex ed and got confused when they were talking about cleaning under the foreskin. Thanks mom and dad.
Foxhound199 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:15:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure there's a benefit: Getting to stare down millions of years of evolution predicated most blatantly on efficient reproductive abilities and saying "Fuck it, we can do better."
Queen_Inappropria ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get phimosis. It happened to my kid. Poor fella had his circumcision at age 11 because if it. It's not a reason to circumcise everyone, but it can happen.
waraukaeru ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:05:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry to give you bad news, but you can't diagnose phimosis in a prepubescent child. For many the foreskin does not retract until well into puberty. Even then, if you do have phimosis, there are treatments that involve stretching and expanding the foreskin or surgically expanding the foreskin that could be explored before circumcision.
https://tlctugger.com/phimosis-summary-and-treatment/
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't get phimosis. You have it or you don't.
Queen_Inappropria ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:50:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son didn't have it, then it developed. What can I say? If he had it earlier, his doctor would have noticed and said something.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:57:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because you totally notice if you have phimosis before you have erections, right?
Karranor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The scar tissue from Balanitis xerotica obliterans is clearly visible without having an erection.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Madrefaka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought being circumcised is mandatory all over the world? Well, TIL.
Source: living in Philippines, where circumcision is like the test of your manhood. Now I am thinking maybe it's just our culture.
markko79 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's cultural and hygienic, according to the parents who have it done. We're to the point now where no one in their 20's has any living relatives who had a foreskin past one year of age.
LemonConfetti ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:37:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's laughably false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision#United_States
markko79 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have worded that better. In most families, no one in their 20's have any living relatives with a foreskin. That is fact. If you kept up with my postings, you'd have read that Hispanic families tend not to circumcise and their increased birth rate has skewed the overall national and regional circ rates. Whites, blacks, and Asian-Americans tend to have circ rates in the 90% and higher area.
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's much lower than that for blacks.
No matter though, 10% is still enough people that saying most families have no living relatives with a foreskin is not reasonable.
markko79 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:09:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grandpa was born in 1940 and is circumcised. Dad is circumcised. All the uncles are circumcised. All of the brothers are circumcised. Hence, all of the living relatives in the family is foreskin-free. I don't see the problem with my statement.
Tagrineth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your family is basically all circumcised, therefore ALL FAMILIES ARE FULLY CIRCUMCISED and you'll be DAMNED if anyone tells you otherwise! /s
Saying "most ENTIRE FAMILIES" are cut is a laughable generalisation.
markko79 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:15:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That still applies in the USA. There aren't that many uncircumcised guys under the age of 70 in the USA.
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying there aren't families like that. I'm saying that 10% is enough people to make that statement pretty unreasonable.
markko79 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:23:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What part of "most" isn't the other 90%?
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
90% of people doesn't mean 90% of families. Families have a lot of people.
ZaydSophos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:29:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's surprisingly like 60% in the US. There's plenty of debates about it online. I only needed to see a baby get circumcised to be pretty opposed to it.
reyrey1492 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 23:50:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unedited version here, I'm an oddity apparently.
night_stocker ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer the term "Penis 1.0".
Dawidko1200 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's just vanilla penis.
Bamres ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're like the south park movie?
IWantALargeFarva ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, that movie came out 18 years ago and I just now get it. Holy shit, I'm a moron.
Bamres ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loool it took me a while but i was 4 when it came out to be fair
IWantALargeFarva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was an adult. Again, I'm a moron.
reyrey1492 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes... Exactly like that.
onlysane1 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:43:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does not pulling back the foreskin increase risk of UTI, or does it just adulterate the specimen?
markko79 ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 22:44:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bacteria normally growing under the foreskin will produce a false positive for a urinary tract infection.
ImKindaBoring ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bacteria growing under the foreskin....? I am pretty ignorant about most things but that seems a bit gross. Is this normal? Is it something circumcised also have?
Tarecgosa ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the fact that bacteria is growing is what you consider "gross", note that bacteria grows on your skin, inside of you, pretty much all over. It's completely normal and natural, and indeed, often helps with things like digestion.
ImKindaBoring ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the penis bacteria that can be mistaken for a UTI the same type of helpful bacteria?
Tarecgosa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No idea if that particular type of bacteria helpful, but the majority of bacteria (I don't remember the exact number) is either helpful or has no effect on the human body.
markko79 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:26:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's normal. No, circumcised guys don't have that same bacteria growing on the heads of their penises.
DJ_Dont_Panic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:02:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure they do. It's all the same bacteria weather you have a foreskin or not. Having one isn't an excuse to have any more bacteria growing on your dick than the next man, just that you're more likely to get a false positive UTI screening if you don't pull it back first.
Alexthemessiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you count all the bacteria in your gut and on your skin you'll find you have 10x more bacterial cells than human cells (though they're much smaller). Many of these bacteria are really important for keeping you healthy.
Big_TX ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:55:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
If you are a kid it may. It may have not separated yet. But once you can pull it back it's fine to do so. And it is soposed to go back and forth. If you pee with it down you can't aim well.
Sulfate ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:25:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like putting your thumb over a garden hose.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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damnisuckatreddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Judging from the dribbles I find on the toilet bath mat after my husband takes a piss I'm guessing the answer is they don't.
DJ_Dont_Panic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just looked this up. It seems the general medical guidelines are to pull back the foreskin for UTI tests to avoid increased risk of false positives.
perfidydudeguy ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? Is that a thing in certain states or is that nation wide?
markko79 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 00:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not many Hispanics here. That's the group that has lowered the circumcision average for the rest of the country. In California, for example, the stats say that only 33% of baby boys are circumcised. However, the number of white, black, and Asian baby boys that are circumcised in California is near 90%.
Poor_cReddit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. My mom was like, "Fuck that, you're not going to cut my baby's penis!" and here I am.
Derangedcorgi ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wao, I'm part of the 10%
unidan_was_right ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:15:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep saying this and people just call me either stupid or a liar.
Circumcision rates are at best slowly declining in white. It's the Hispanics that are lowering the rate for the general population.
also_HIM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:22:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are right, because the decline can't be explained by hispanics.
also_HIM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your numbers are way off. California is down to 22%. As hispanics aren't even 40% of the population, even if not a single hispanic baby in CA were circumcised, that would leave a circumcision rate of 35% for the rest of the populace. Texas has an equally large percentage of hispanic population and a circumcision rate more than 2x California's. Moreover, Washington state has a circumcision rate of only 14% and only 12% of the population is hispanic (much less than the US average).
The divide in circumcision rates between the western states and eastern states isn't explained by hispanics.
ZaydSophos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Data reports show something between 50 and 79% circumcision rate nationwide.
stink3rbelle ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 23:41:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so sad to me, especially considering that it's a procedure done with regularity to infants.
markko79 ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 23:48:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the locker room syndrome. Since everyone in the locker room is circumcised, young men and boys assume that's how a "normal" penis looks from day one. Circumcision is still common in the white, black, and Asian communities. It's still pretty uncommon in the Hispanic community. The numbers you hear... that only 6 in ten kids are circumcised in 2016... is deceiving. Since so many Hispanics are giving birth, the national figure is skewed. The circ rate in my hospital is 99%. The only kids that aren't circumcised are the Mennonites who are born here.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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markko79 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:26:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's about it.
picklefarts1776 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:48:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im in my early 30's now, but most of my male partners have been intact. There was no way i was cutting off part my sons penis. Im glad the trend is slowing fading in the US.
herrhiskelig ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 00:26:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
blows my mind because you'd have to go on a manhunt here in sweden to find a circumsised dick
plebean_student ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:41:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many muslims are circumcised though (at least here in Belgium).
herrhiskelig ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:06:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but compared to the ration in the us it's nothing
going_otherwhere ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:41:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep same in England. I've only ever seen one circumcised one, and that belonged to an American living in London.
herrhiskelig ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 01:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be honest they look raw and painful and I wouldn't have sex with a person if they had that
semioticmadness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're not painful (well, mine isn't) but yeah I can see it being weird if you're not habituated to it.
But it is rather sensitive :(
TimmyMojo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:23:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A circumcised dick is not nearly as sensitive as an uncircumcised one. As one of the minority of American men who is uncut, I can't even walk around nude, much less wear clothes, with my foreskin pulled back. It hurts a lot to have my head uncovered.
The head of an uncut penis is way more sensitive than that of a hoodless one.
cpt_pancreas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:25:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I can't imagine the pain of having the head exposed to something rough textured like the material of my boxers all day. I think I would be sat perfectly still trying not to move at all.
herrhiskelig ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( Foreskin is supposed to stay and only be opened up if the tip is too tight. Foreskin is really fucking soft and silky and keeps the crown from getting weird and wrinkly. People who thinks it's gross and dirty only tell me about THEIR washing habits.
timesuck897 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:43:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just your mom's usual Thursday night.
unidan_was_right ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:17:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not with your muslim population.
I'd say it's pretty easy finding someone circumcised in Sweden.
herrhiskelig ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:35:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah no.
unidan_was_right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, you screan the muslims at the border and only accept the very very small minority that is uncut.
Get real!
darkdex52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably even less so in Latvia, since our Jewish and Muslim community is microscopic.
AEsirTro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? Sweden is like 70% Muslim...
herrhiskelig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you retarded?
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why on earth is it so common in the US?
cC2Panda ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Kellogg brothers(of breakfast cereal fame) were 7th day Adventists. They were very religious and believed that masturbation was a grave sin. They also believed that they could prevent masturbation with circumcision. So they used there fame and money to run a pro-circumcision campaign, as well as promoting using carbolic acid on girl clitoris. He was at the time well respected and publish a few medical books and was considered a top expert on sexuality along with Sylvester Graham(maker of Graham crackers).
They literally thought that masturbation was worse than war and small pox, and so they campaigned until the majority of American boys were circumcised.
cattaclysmic ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:42:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Well the cornflake guys really didn't want you to masturbate and it all kinda took off from there..."
darkdex52 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:08:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
US politics in a nutshell...
Poor_cReddit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:04:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So apparently circumcised kids can't masturbate? We all know that's bullshit.
proweruser ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now it's a billion dollar a year industry. Which might explain why nobody is really interested in stopping it, even though it clearly does more harm than good.
Humpfinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yhe, so can I please assume those psycho's are in hell?
TheMapesHotel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:53:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The skin graph industry uses foreskin as seed skin. There are millions if not billions of dollars a year in that Industry devoted to keeping the practice up.
picklefarts1776 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:45:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can thank Mr. Kellogg for that, during the revival period, he claimed it would reduce masturbation.
semioticmadness ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:33:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly though, for a fucked up idea like that ("cut your infant's penis! No, hear me out: it will make sure they hate sex!"), it really needs the society to be receptive to it.
lurgi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly for the reasons given above. Everyone does it. So new parents do it, because that's what everyone does.
glassdarkly33 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:08:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made this post in another part of the thread but I'll copy and paste it here:
Circumcision is so common in America because of Victorian era doctors wanting to curb masturbation. Corn Flakes (the breakfast cereal) was also created for this reason and was created by the same guy that pushed so hard for circumcision in America, John Harvey Kellogg.
See more here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harvey_Kellogg
For example -
Also, the most predictable factor for a boy being circumcised is if his father is circumcised. This is why it has persisted.
nugymmer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:07:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, because some fathers are traumatised by their own mutilation and want to re-enact that trauma on their sons. That's why it's so predictable.
Either that or they're indifferent and buy into the bullshit about STDs, HIV, germs, hygiene, looks "prettier" or any other assorted crap they can come up with to justify it in their own minds.
Whatever happened to bodily autonomy.
Internet_Adventurer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:42:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually one of a few reasons I would assume. The religious aspect of it, the idea that it's cleaner/low maintenance, or it looks better.
Just guessing here, not saying it's right or wrong, but that's what I hear
not_just_amwac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's long and complicated. Have a read of this (quite long, but totally worthwhile) to get an idea.
randomentity1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because doctors make money off it, and hospitals actually sell the foreskins to cosmetic companies and other companies.
EndlessTetris ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:40:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck are the cosmetic companies doing with the foreskins!? Making leather purses?
randomentity1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.google.com/search?q=foreskin+cosmetics
EndlessTetris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god WHAT
laaanis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:41:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf, got a source for that!?
markko79 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's wrong. They go to pathology lab.
wicksa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We throw ours in medical waste and they are incinerated.
IWantALargeFarva ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We throw ours in a stew.
randomentity1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:46:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.google.com/search?q=foreskin+cosmetics
markko79 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's false. The foreskins are sent to the pathology lab for examination. The reason it's done in infancy is that it costs $500 and the health insurance company pays for it in full. If done later, it costs $20,000, requires an operating room, and insurance won't pay for it unless there is a pathological reason for it being done.
randomentity1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:46:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not false, google will tell you:
https://www.google.com/search?q=foreskin+cosmetics
markko79 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hospital circumcision foreskins go to pathology and are placed in poison (formaldehyde). No one is going to make eyelids out of them... or whatever you pretend to be the truth.
FloppY_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"oh it is cheaper to mutilate him now? Do it!"
'murica
markko79 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Consider it: The parents are hedging their bets by getting it done now for free, rather than waiting for Junior to ask for it when he's ten years old when it'll cost a half-a-year's wages.
night_stocker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20,000!? Damn my dick has equity.
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can sell your foreskin to use as eyelids for burn patients. Or so I've heard.
Trinket90 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:42:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do think the rate as a whole has gone down, though. A lot of parents are doing more of their own research before they have kids, and are reevaluating decisions that were set in stone for a long time. My mother had my brothers circumcised, but she says if she had the information she has now she wouldn't do it again. Several friends circumcised their first son, but they didn't with their other kids. I found that the information was so prevalent that it was easy for me to make a decision. Birth culture has swung far towards parents making independent, informed decisions rather than doing what everyone else has done or what doctors tell them to do.
Adariel ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you getting this info? Asians have one of the lowest rates of circumcision. Maybe Asians coming from Muslim countries (Indonesia, for example...but they also do some types of female circumcision there) do, but definitely not East Asians. Supposedly less than 1% of Japanese.
Edit: Korea appears to be an exception (high circumcision rate), but that is explained as due to American GI influence during the war...same with Filipinos.
markko79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Third generation Asians tend to have it done. Fresh-off-the-boat Asians... it takes a generation or two before it becomes routine.
Adariel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so you mean Asian Americans? Or overseas Asians in other countries? Either way, I don't see how you can say it's "still" common but claim that it's "still pretty uncommon" in the Hispanic community.
That the immigrants don't adopt it as routine until they're two or three generations proves that it's not part of their usual culture.
In any case, if you're talking about Asian Americans, please specify that. There's only like a billion Chinese to completely disprove your statement if you just leave it at "Asian." Also all the South Asians (Indians).
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm willing to bet that 80% of the third generation Asian-Americans in California are circumcised. Probably closer to 90%.
Embaralhador ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:42:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: People in the US like to mutilate baby's genitals.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even 6 in 10 is crazy high IMO
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:17:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 00:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ISHOTJAMC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does most advanced even mean? Technologically? GDP? It's a bit ambiguous.
alexbhood ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:33:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The most advanced nation in 2016 isn't still doing this.
Letscurlbrah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By what metrics is the US the most advanced nation? Get out of here with that jingoistic horseshit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Letscurlbrah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll help you: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5974516
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't aware that the most advanced nation in 2016 is circumcising people regularly. Got a source?
wicksa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Our circ rates are high (probably 80-90%), and you are right that most hispanics don't circ, but I have seen a rise in white people choosing not to circ. It's a mix of crunchy/hippy type people and seemingly average middle to upper class couples. Also European immigrants. I don't think I have had any black or asian couples choose not to circ though.
ChaoticMidget ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Circumcision is common in very specific Asian countries, many of which aren't well represented in the US. China, Japan, India, Vietnam and most of SE Asia other than Indonesia and countries in that region all have incredibly low rates of circumcision.
CapinWinky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I am, upper middle class white people here pretty much stopped circumcising their kids. They all fall on the crunchy scale somewhere between home birth and C-section + formula but still baby wears.
also_HIM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I already replied to you elsewhere demonstrating your assumptions about hispanics skewing the numbers is wrong... I see here you mention Mennonites, so I can only assume you live somewhere in the eastern part of the US - somewhere like Indiana, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Ohio. The eastern states have far, far higher circumcision rates (80-90%) than the western states do (20-40%), so it's not too surprising you see rates like that at your hospital. But you can judge the entire US based on your local hospital. There are places where the circumcision rates have plummeted among all races.
It's fair enough to say you can't judge the entire country by a single average - there's a clear and large differentiation between geographic areas - but the national average is decreasing because the western states are dragging it there, not because hispanics are.
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in Wisconsin. I was the go-to person at work on the topic. I did a semester project on the topic... not by choice. We drew topics out of a hat in nursing school. I've kept up on the topic since then.
also_HIM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet your numbers are off, and your conclusions are not supported by the data. Washington state's 14% circumcision rate cannot be explained by the 12% of their population that is hispanic. (Wisconsin, by comparison, has a hispanic population half that - 6% - but a circumcision rate almost 7x Washington's at 82%.) You need to do better research and not extrapolate local effects across the entire country.
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And in a country that has federal criminal laws against female circumcision of any kind...oh, and in a country where abortion is protected by the constitution because of bodily autonomy (which is a VERY good argument for banning circumcision).
Average650 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the religious argument from Jews (and some Christians) is going to trump that for a long time. The Jewish practice is thousands of years old and outlawing that religious practice would be a huge blow to religious freedom.
nugymmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Religious freedom DOES NOT include the right to butcher a baby's dick.
nugymmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would also be a blow to religious freedom to ban certain drugs. But hey, keep playing that line. Circumcision is all about the money being made from gullible parents with the foreskins being sold to biotech companies for making skin cell cultures and skin testing samples.
PaulMcGannsShoes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welp here we go
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Zhuinden ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:57:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Simple.
People against circumcision value anatomic integrity.
People for circumcision want to validate either their past mutilation out of their control, or the mutilation they've inflicted on others so that they don't feel bad about it.
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:10:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's an issue of bodily integrity and bodily autonomy, and the right to have your sex organs left intact...every single part of them.
I bet in some countries that practice FGM, I'm sure there's bickering and shitfights as well. That's because it's a pretty serious issue, don't you think?
You realise that the right to a safe and legal abortion is under serious attack and may be outlawed in the USA at some future point? You can probably thank routine infant circumcision for that. 70% of all anti-abortionists who have any influence in politics are MEN...and I'd wager that most of them are circumcised.
PM-Your-Tiny-Tits ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:39:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's a big deal.
GodleyX ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 23:52:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm thankful for that. That's the best time to do it, when you are so young you can't remember anything that just happened a few seconds ago.
stink3rbelle ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 23:55:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do not have a penis, so don't really have a dog in this fight, but as I understand it, removing foreskin often desensitizes the tip of the penis. So to me, the alternative to circumcizing infants in the hospital isn't circumcizing young boys, teens, or adults, but simply avoiding circumcizing at all.
GodleyX ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 23:57:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. I prefer it this way. My girlfriend prefers it this. And if that's true, then it makes me last longer in bed. Win win I suppose?
It doesn't have any negative impact on me at all. So I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
TammyK ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:12:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See the way I think of it is...
Imagine if you had no idea what circumcision is and you had a baby boy and the doctor asks if you want to cut his foreskin off, and you ask why and the only legitimate reason he can list is cosmetically it looks better, and that there are in fact a lot of risks in getting the procedure done--would you do that to your baby?
GodleyX ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:21:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would say am I circumcised? Well look at that I am. And it had absolutely zero impact on my life. So I don't care, flip a coin.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:35:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have no way of knowing the impact it had, because you had it done when you were young.
Just because you aren't aware of what you're missing, doesn't mean you aren't missing anything.
Avitas1027 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:26:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can your foreskin do your taxes? Does it magically make you more likely to win the lottery?
The only possible thing having an intact foreskin can change is how sex feels or how willing people are to have sex with you. In my area of the world, being uncut is often seen as less attractive, so being cut slightly increases your chances of having sex.
As for the feeling, I may not have any way to compare between the two but I know that putting my circumcised penis inside a girl is amazing. So amazing that I sometimes have to distract myself from how amazing it feels to keep going longer.
So from my perspective, it had zero negative impact on my life, and in fact had quite a bit of positive impact.
stink3rbelle ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a medically unnecessary procedure that is carried out by rote. That alone skeeves me out a ton. I don't think it's good for doctors to decide how a baby's going to want his dick to look when he's an adult.
A lot of people in the U.S. do prefer circumcised in appearance, but I think part of that is just the circle of culture: everyone is circumcised so no one even sees uncircumcised dicks, and everyone just gets used to what they're seeing, so they keep letting the doctors lop off a part of their babies' dicks.
As for sensitivity, there have been some studies showing that uncircumcised men may be less susceptible to STI's, but that may also be related to their greater willingness to (and enjoyment from) wear/ing condoms. It's probably not the biggest deal, and obviously you shouldn't feel inadequate, but I just think everyone needs to think more carefully about this stuff when it comes to the kids getting born (and snipped) every day.
ImKindaBoring ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it debatable whether there are health benefits? American Academy of Pediatrics (obviously biased) suggests that it reduces UTIs, risk of cancer, and STDs.
Not a doctor, of course.
Humpfinger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:54:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all of those are proven to be false.
ImKindaBoring ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source by any chance? Not a subject I have much knowledge on.
wylderk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:06:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can be medically necessary at times though. I got an infection when I was like 8-9 and had to get it circumcised then. Trust me, I would have MUCH preferred they had done it when I was born.
That's not to say I think it should always be done, but I don't understand the people that are totally against it 100%.
cartmanbeer ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:11:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he was implying that doing it to infants, which is routine, is medically unnecessary.
Cosey28 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:17:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's medically necessary, then I'm all for it. But if not, there isn't a doctor in the world who will be cutting up my baby's penis.
I don't think there are many people who are actually 100% against it, really. I just think that it should be a decision that is made by the person the penis belongs to.
obeysanta ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The procedure should be done later in life when they're old enough to decide for themselves
markko79 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It costs $500 to have it done to newborn and insurance pays for it. Having it done later costs $20,000, requires an operating room, and insurance won't pay for it.
stink3rbelle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should have been specific: immediately after a baby is born, it is almost certainly medically unnecessary. The medical necessity of it also doesn't factor into the decisionmaking by most doctors on behalf of infants. I'm sorry you had to remember yours nonetheless.
TammyK ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the risks of having the procedure done well outweigh the chances of you getting an infection later on and having to do so. I'm sorry you had to go through that though, sounds awful :/
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:10:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have absolutely no way of knowing if it affects you. And it literally kills a handful of infants every year. Seriously.
Avitas1027 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's nice seeing another guy with this mindset. It was done long before I developed memories, so it's not like I have any context for what I'm missing. Supposedly sex would feel better, but that means nothing to me. Sex feels great and I know enough girls that have admitted they find uncircumcised penises unattractive to feel that my chances at sex are much higher circumcised. I'm quite happy with my penis and really wish people would quit acting like I'm a victim and I should be ashamed of my dick.
Ginger-saurus-rex ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:49:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really doesn't bother you that normal body parts of babies are routinely removed for zero reason and without the consent of the person having it done?
Avitas1027 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But there is a reason. Aesthetics. I've spoke with plenty of women who find circumcised penises unattractive, to the point of losing interest in someone who wasn't circumcised and (in their teen years) even speaking negatively about it among friends. Personally I'm extremely happy I've never had to hear a girl say my penis looks disgusting. As I said I'm extremely happy with my penis.
On the flip side I suffer zero consequences from my parents decision. Hell, my life is ever so slightly easier since it's less hassle to clean. One could argue I have relatively less sensation, but since I have nothing to compare that to it means nothing to me.
And on the point of consent, who cares? Everyone's parents make millions of decisions on their behalf before they're old enough to make their own. No one complains about the parent deciding to put their kid in a sport which could cause them serious bodily harm and lasting brain injury. Getting me circumcised has had near zero effect on my life. Compare that to something like deciding which school I would go to which has greatly shaped my entire life and the consent argument is laughable.
Ginger-saurus-rex ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:19:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Less hassle to clean? Cleaning a penis isn't rocket science, but you seem to think it is. Like I said to another guy in the thread it takes me no more than five seconds in the shower and my dick is clean as a whistle. And aesthetics? You wouldn't find it creepy at all if parents decided to get their baby daughter's labia surgically adjusted for aesthetic purposes? Exactly, doing to a dick is just as creepy and pedophilic. Finally, in terms of consent, yeah, parents make loads of decisions for their children, that's their jobs as parents. None of those require having a normal body part surgically removed for no reason.
Avitas1027 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you reread my previous post you can see I said "ever so slightly easier", as in effectively no difference at all. I fully realize how ridiculous people are who complain about the terrible burden of cleaning a couple square centimeters of skin.
Of course I would, aesthetics are dependent on the culture around you, and mine is against that. I'm all for changing cultures, and can acknowledge it's not the best of practices but I can't begin to care enough about this issue to see it as anything other than a personal decision, and in my life I'm very happy with my circumcised penis and am glad my parents made this choice.
Maybe there aren't many cases of normal body parts being removed but lets compare it to braces. In circumcision there is a quick surgery to remove a piece of skin that does essentially nothing. With braces there's a fairly long surgery to glue a bunch of metal into a child's mouth to slowly maneuver their teeth into a slightly more aesthetically pleasing configuration, all the while opening them up to years of having to be careful of what they eat, possible low self esteem and bullying, and potentially missing out on making out with their first crush. All in all, braces look way more evil to me than circumcision.
As I said, I don't have strong feelings one way or another about the issue, but I'd be much happier if I never had to hear another holier-than-thou asshole call my parents "creepy and pedophilic" while implying I should be ashamed of my genitals. I don't plan on having children, but if I ever do have a boy I kinda hope the mother would want to have the kid circumcised just so they can have one less thing in common with you. Kindly fuck off and have a nice day.
stink3rbelle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By most accounts I've seen, foreskin is a kind of built-in masturbation sleeve. The practice of its routine medical removal actually began in the U.S. as part of a crusade/attempt to keep boys from masturbating. You shouldn't feel burdened by being circumcised, it's not a huge deal. But that doesn't mean that circumcision should be the default forever. All I want is for people to think about it before they let it happen.
Avitas1027 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was obviously a really poorly executed crusade since I masterbate at least once a day and have yet to feel that my smaller foreskin has made this even slightly inconvenient. (I'm now wondering if it makes clean up relatively easier, it might actually have saved me a box or two of kleenex in the past decade or so if that is the case.)
As I said above, I see this as a personal choice that parents have to make. I think it's a ridiculously unimportant choice when compared to most decisions a parent makes for their child, but I do hope they put serious thought into every decision they make regarding their child.
stink3rbelle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's not one that they're actively making, and, frankly, I don't think their child's genital appearance is a decision that should be theirs to make in the first place. (caveat: I don't see any problem with religious circumcision). U.S. Doctors do it to babies as a default, which is an extreme thing to be a default. Doctors (in most states) have to be told not to go snipping off pieces of babies' penises! Going around saying "it's not that big of a deal" doesn't exactly encourage any new parents to think hard about the decision, either, so I'm really not sure why you think it's so important to say. I haven't seen anyone take an extremist anti-circumcision tack in this thread, so why chime in just to say "don't worry about it"?
Avitas1027 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must have missed the part a bit above where the one guy implied my parents were creepy and pedophilic for choosing to have me circumcised.
I didn't know about it being a default decision in the states, and find that really weird. In Canada there is no default and the parent has to make a decision, though it's recommended against by the Canadian Paediatric Society.
And if you look above you'll see I started into this conversation by agreeing with another guy who's happy with his circumcision only to be asked if I'm okay with removing body parts of newborns for "zero reason and without the consent of the person having it done."
As for your caveat, I think it's hypocritical to complain about parents not giving it thought, while defending parents blindly doing what their religion tells them to. I'm also really really hoping you're not okay with the whole rabbi-sucking-blood-from-a-newborn's-penis kind of religious circumcision.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The aesthetic preference thing only depends on what is the norm in the country, and that norm can easily be changed. I'm sure some people think this looks great, but it doesn't mean the tradition should be continued in 2017 http://media.medicalbag.com/images/2016/02/09/lip-plating.jpg
Also the only people who can really say circumcision made a difference in their life are people who had it done after sexual maturity. You don't know if you suffered zero consequences from it. Imagine if you had your tongue out all the time every day and it dried out and lost sensitivity, you probably wouldn't die but there's definitely a difference.
Avitas1027 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:00:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(This might be a duplicate, reddit's being weird)
The aesthetic preference thing only depends on what is the norm in the country, and that norm can easily be changed. I'm sure some people think this looks great, but it doesn't mean the tradition should be continued in 2017 http://media.medicalbag.com/images/2016/02/09/lip-plating.jpg I fully realize that aesthetics are culture driven, but I happen to live in a culture that is pro-circumcision and so it's been in my best interest to have been circumcised. I bet the dude-in-your-picture's wife thinks his lip plate is sexy as fuck. He probably can't wait to put a bigger one in. They probably get freaky to celebrate. Also the only people who can really say circumcision made a difference in their life are people who had it done after sexual maturity. You don't know if you suffered zero consequences from it. Imagine if you had your tongue out all the time every day and it dried out and lost sensitivity, you probably wouldn't die but there's definitely a difference. So your argument is I should be sad because I could maybe have enjoyed sex even more if I wasn't cut. This means nothing to me. Sex feels amazing to the point where I often have to distract myself from how incredible it is so I can last longer. I wouldn't even particularly mind loosing a few more nerves. So the argument that I can't know what I'm missing out on is ridiculous. Massive amounts of dopamine are flooding into my system whether I have those nerves or not. I love every part of my dick and no amount of what-ifs are ever going to convince me that circumcision has in any way been less than a positive in my life. I understand the arguments people have against circumcision and I'd never fault someone for choosing to not give their child one, but I'll never be able to see it as more than one of a million choices a parent has to make for their child. I do realize that by choosing to circumcise a child they "rob him of his choice", but I couldn't care less. My parents chose to put me in a French school. I had no say in this yet it's shaped my entire life in a way that so overshadows the "loss of choice over my body" that I can't help but laugh at that argument. Deciding whether or not a kid will grow up with a dog, which sport they go into, where you'll live, how often they see their grandparents, what their bed time is, do they get an allowance, which chores are their responsibility and when to give them what other responsibilities are all choices that are going to have astronomically larger effects on their life than whether or not they're circumcised.
GodleyX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:30:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. Guess this means I'm not the only one. Honestly I think peoples time and energy is better spent on more productive things. Things that have a much larger impact than the circumcision procedure which has zero effect on me at all.
Avitas1027 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I see these threads there's millions of people going on about the evils of circumcision like every guy that's been cut is carrying around this great scar on their psyche. Meanwhile when my first girlfriend asked me if I was I had to mentally think about it. It was such a completely unremarkable bit of knowledge about myself that I had to remind myself what the word meant and then picture my penis in my head.
I'm pretty damn happy with my penis and all the pleasure it's given me and am looking forward to the rest of my life with it.
Humpfinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is the problem, that SOMEHOW in America the ''mutilation'' has become the standard, for absolutly no reason.
Avitas1027 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:24:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very happy with my "mutilated" penis. It has no downsides and several upsides.
ChaosWolf1982 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a claim that is as-of-yet unproven.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:13:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can it be not true? If you had your tongue out 24/7 and let it dry and rub against clothing what do you think happens?
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your tongue is not the same as your dick.
Asking who is more sensitive, cut or uncut, is like asking which hurts more, a kick in the balls or childbirth. You can never know for sure because it never can happen both to the same person. Nobody (to my awareness) gets circumcised as an adult, and infants don't have sex or the ability to speak, so they can't describe how they feel compared to each other. Guesses can be made, but nothing is provable.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People do get adult circumcisions.
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
News to me.
Why not ask them is there's a difference then? Every anti-cutting thing I've run across seems to just base their argument on speculation.
Besides, even if you do lose a little sensation, so what? It's probably a negligible amount, and if you're less sensitive, wouldn't you last longer? That's supposed to be a good thing, isn't it?
Dapperdan814 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 00:19:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eeehhhh, case by case basis.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you had your tongue out 24/7 and let it dry and rub against clothing what do you think happens?
TammyK ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 00:14:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's completely unnecessary and simply a cosmetic procedure. Why are we giving infant baby boys cosmetic surgery on their sexual organs? Is that seriously not bizarre to you?
GodleyX ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People like to make a big deal out of stuff. Like i said, it has absolutely no impact on me. So I couldn't care if it was or wasn't done.
randomentity1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:34:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, some studies show that circumcision increases your chances of getting ED, so maybe you can look forward to that later in life:
http://www.academia.edu/6395137/Adding_Insult_to_Injury_Acquisition_of_Erectile_Dysfunction_from_Circumcision
not_just_amwac ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:19:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And apparently changes pain response later on as well.
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(96)10316-0/abstract?cc=y=
TammyK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad it hasn't affected your life, but your personal experience isn't everyone's. Some men have been psychologically hurt by this procedure, some physically. If it makes no difference don't give your baby surgery..
Zhuinden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You cannot accurately measure that, you know.
randomentity1 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because the baby can't remember it doesn't mean it's not wrong. Just like how it's still wrong to give a girl the date rape drug even if she doesn't remember it.
GodleyX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:25:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a terrible comparison. That has a huge impact on somebody's life. Regardless if him or her remembers anything after they took the date rape drug. That changes a person. I know somebody who was given the date rape drug, they are not the same person. It is wildly different than circumcision, the two just don't compare at all.
unidan_was_right ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:24:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
vs a traumatic intervention where part of your penis is surgically removed with no anaesthesia.
You can't make someone who doesn't want to see something see it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Experiencing severe pain as an infant has been documented to alter the way babies' brains develop.
FelneusLeviathan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hate when this happens, when people completely fucking miss the point of a comparison. Yeah the other person compared two unlike things because if they were the same thing, then what's the point of even comparing it? The other person is showing you their thought process and rational for something via the tool of comparison; it's not going to be completely appropriate all the time but then again that's not really the point and you're missing it
nugymmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a very appropriate comparison.
Torturing an infant's genitals is tantamount to rape in my mind...and woe betide anyone I ever actually see doing that to an infant. My blood pressure would go to the moon and I'd probably end up killing them, if I didn't die from a stroke or a heart attack first.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:55:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im pretty sure I wouldnt remember if they had amputated my arm 5min after I was born and I would still have nothing to be thankful for
GodleyX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, sure. You wouldn't remember anything done to you as a baby.
But how is a life long struggle of living with only a single arm and hand the same as a small flap of skin that does not impact your life at all regardless of being there or not?
ChaoticMidget ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:59:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The argument is why circumcise at all? Would you have been fine if they just lopped off a small chunk of your forearm right after birth as well? By all accounts, it wouldn't grossly affect your life and you wouldn't remember it at all. It just makes no sense to defend a practice that basically has no medical purpose considering over half the world doesn't go through the procedure and they're basically fine. It's not like circumcision reduces your risk for cancer or something.
With-a-Cactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't find out until college. Overheard some girl complaining about some guy being uncircumcised and nit needing a condom (she was dumb, I don't remember what her reasoning was, but she was definitely dumb) and my best friend was calling her out that foreskin wasn't a natural catch for semen. Somehow that lead to me asking what circumcision qualified as and learned that I was circumsized. Until then I didn't know it was common or done for nonreligious reasons.
Tldr:small town sex ed is a waste of everyone's time.
Dand3li0ncl0ck ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My fiancรฉ thought that he wasn't circumcised and that when they do a circumcision they cut some skin and pull it down to make the foreskin.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so wild. I'm from Canada and the first time I slept with an American dude I was like, "Oh, shit, I forgot you guys do this... what do I do??"
brainwise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is it with you Americans and always cutting off bits of dicks??!!
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a cultural thing. Like British people and tea.
brainwise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that. I'm just surprised it still happens on the scale it seems to when other western countries dumped it as routine years ago.
markko79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know.
Icanus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do not know a single person that's circumcised.
Why the hell do you Americans love cutting of a piece of babypenisskin?
Blaze_fox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:17:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm circumcised, i was at the age of 10. im british. im sat here at 19 years old like 'really?' when i hear shit like this
SquidCap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to top if off, there are no medical or other rational reasons for cutting a piece of nerve laden skin off because of "reasons". Horrid tradition that a lot of people are willing to defend, because of "reasons".. I have never understood the whole thing, i know of only one person in my 43 of existence with circumcised penis (didn't ask, we have Saunas here so we see a lot of dudes naked in our lifetime, he is a good friend but really, none of my business what is happening in his).
Angsty_Potatos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But we dont need comprehensive sex ed...no....everything is fine. People dont need to know about their bodies...ugh
rfreitaz ยท 1977 points ยท Posted at 23:22:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how much of this is true, it was my cousin (who is a doctor) who told me. He was in his first year in a clinic and people went there to have an appointment because he was good looking. Elder ladies loved him particularly. But this is totally unrelated, and the worst case was when this elder lady goes in with her granddaughter, around 8 yo. She had a severely infected wound in her head. Upon close inspection, he saw the wound crawling with small maggots and the smell was terrible. He was pissed, of course, and asked why didn't she washed the wound and brought her earlier. She said she thought it would heal with time and was afraid to wash it, lest water enters her brain and kills her. There was also this woman that took her 6 yo daughter there to check why she still didn't have pubes.
TheColorOfSnails ยท 288 points ยท Posted at 01:43:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. Do you know if that girl ended up okay?
UrethraX ยท 857 points ยท Posted at 01:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure she hit puberty eventually don't worry
amonthwithoutcoffee ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 02:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gods damnit reddit
monkeyvoodoo ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:23:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm waiting for the pube-a-roo so i can "hold my puberty, I'm going in!"
Kikuhoshi ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:11:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you're in luck!
SkyezOpen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Risky cl- oh I knew it!
Sgt_procrastinator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is it i can't view it in the uk?
SkyezOpen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The episode of South Park where the boys lure a while bunch of pedophiles to a taping of a show with Chris Hansen to prevent Cartman from saying horrible things about Jews. They end up walking into the studio and exclaiming "oh no Chris Hansen!" and shooting themselves in the head.
howdoesthatworkthen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/jesuschristreddit
Black_Lannister ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your name sounds like the most interesting x-men ever
UrethraX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's short for UrethraXtreme
ChloeLouiseA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:58 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for making me exhale sharply through my nose!
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, the old redditaroo
ascentstudios ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/monkeyvoodoo would be disappointed in your lack of puns.
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I didn't try to continue the thread.
rfreitaz ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 05:04:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. The wound was cleaned the bery same day, she was treated with antibiotics and went back to the clinic every day to get new bandages (I don't know if it's the right word but you get it).
Cheksout ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:56:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately she died when they tried to wash her head. Granny tried to warn them. :(
[deleted] ยท 180 points ยท Posted at 02:19:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom didn't hit puberty or get her period until she was 19. I, however, started my period when I was 7 - almost 8 -and I was mortified. I went to the nurse screaming and crying, demanding they call 911. Quite a traumatic day.
[deleted] ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 05:46:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had overheard an adult conversation at 10 years old about how someone found out they had cancer by bleeding from their rectum. I got my period a few days later and broke the news to my mom that I had cancer because I too was bleeding from my butt.
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:29:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the best thing I've heard all day.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 08:38:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad the emotional rollercoaster that was my first period brought you joy.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This complements my breast experience. I was newly 9 and had recently watched an episode of Family Guy where Peter has a breast lump. A few days later, I leaned against my desk at school and it hurt. I examined myself, found my own lump, and cried to my mom that I had "cancer."
MRW she told me I was just "getting boobies."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you imagine if they had webmd when we were children? We'd be convinced of our untimely demise non-stop.
miggylovesyou ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 04:29:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember I was demanding the reason why my sister got hers and I didn't. Shortly after I found myself severely disappointed.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:45:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My young sister had the same jealousy haha.
EternityTheory ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:34:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So did I.
.... I'm a guy.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:55:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not at all. Very healthy family and well being. Reproductive and hormone problems. One of her Fallopian tubes is not fully connected, ovary problems, odd shaped uterus. She had 6 miscarriages before I was her first successful pregnancy.
Klowned ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:14:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamn, that's dedication. She continued to try through 6 miscarriages?
Kigarta ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dedication or a stone cold psycho. I don't think I could deal with that much emotional trauma.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she came from a huge catholic family with 11 siblings of her own so probably really felt the pressure to also have her own kids. Honestly, I don't know. I think she did at one point give up because she didn't have me until she was 30.
theimpspeaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she is hardcore Catholic she can't use birth control. So the only giving up is no fucking, or I watching biorythms...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she isn't a practicing Catholic, just raised. Still felt the expectancy to reproduce and have lots of kids from her catholic parents I'm sure (they died when I was 6 months old, can't say for myself).
Blaze_fox ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:53:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know two girls who had odd periods.
one of them had been on it since she was 4 and the other still hasnt started at 22. i... dont really know what to say on it being a gay guy, but like... i feel we're a little bit more consistent with it
vape_angel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:13 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She had her period at 4 years old?! How does one even handle it that young?!
Blaze_fox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:54 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wellp uhh...
she's famous for being raped by her uncle and having a son who was brought up to think his mum was his older sister.
dont remember her name =w= but shes on wikipedia over it
vape_angel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:56 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay that makes more sense as to why it started so damn early
suqoria ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:26:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine didn't hit puberty till she was 16. About 6 months later she had G or H cups. I still feel bad for her about that.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, poor girl is probably self conscious about all the stretch marks she must have from growing so rapidly.
suqoria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah sadly that's true, which sucks!
Up_Past_Bedtime ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 01:59:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sat here eating rice, and I find I've suddenly lost my appetite...
rfreitaz ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 05:03:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry I ruined your dinner. But if your rice is not moving it's safe.
Up_Past_Bedtime ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:26:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahah, it's okay, it's a risk you take when you reddit while eating
I'm fairly sure nothing moved, so hopefully nothing will be growing inside me anytime soon
modeler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:58:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cooked maggots don't move. Always be on your toes when eating rice.
icer816 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:03:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rice with thoughts of maggots in your head 1/10
Larryjacob1 ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 02:12:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not every day that you're hungry enough to eat 2000 of something. (RIP Mitch)
Leohond15 ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 02:02:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This baffles me. Did she get pubes when she was 6? Wtf?
pluckylarva ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine appeared at 8 :)
Leohond15 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 02:39:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's also young. But 6 is a really little child.
tjeulink ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:04:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i believe there is this weird phenomena going on where girls are getting menstruation younger and younger, the age is shifting in that regard. its weird.
http://www.cwhn.ca/en/node/39365
klisteration ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 03:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC there's a theory that this is due to all the birth-control hormones, and chemicals which mimic those hormones making it into our water supply.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:24:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister had a teacher that said it was because of the hormones they gave chickens to fatten them.
msiri ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:30:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard its because were eating too many fat chickens and getting fat. Childhood obesity triggering puberty because it tricks the endocrine system into thinking the body is mature enough for childbearing.
aromachief ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:13:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is not true, since use of hormones in chickens was banned by the USDA in 1957.
doubleydoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:37:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard it was beef.
zer0nix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
<cough> plastics<cough> pesticides<hack>
klisteration ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yuck. Will be seeking hormone-free chicken.
EredarLordJaraxxus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:43:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might want to look at the other replies....
Lady_Penrhyn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:44:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most developed countries have had hormone free chickens for at least 3 or 4 decades mate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not chemicals that mimic birth control pills, it's the pills themselves making it into the water supply.
Barbieheels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did a report on this for one of my university classes. After my research i feel pretty confident it's not true, but science is always changing and improving, so who knows?
bexelle ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more related to increased energy stores (adipose) I believe. People used to be much less nourished and now we over-eat.
murmalerm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The closer a girl gets to 100 lbs, the more likely she is to begin cycling. Obesity is the issue and girls are becoming obese at younger and youngers ages and nearing the magical 100 lbs. mark
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow I've never heard of that '100 lbs marks the period spot'. Where'd you learn that?
murmalerm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned that in a chem - nutrition class.
wizardeyejoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Artificial estrogen doesnt break down in nature (much) so the more it's used by people, dairy farms, etc, the more it concentrates in the water cycle.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read it was because we have access to better nutrition now.
Leohond15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I did hear about that somewhere. Scary
MoneyTreeFiddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They meant 8 pm. PM stands foe pubi-meridian time.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 03:23:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That smiley makes this comment 257 times creepier than it should be.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Such an arbitrary number.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:44:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prime numbers are always funnier for some reason.
rfreitaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it was a pretty small town. People were not very well educated and I guess they just wanted an excuse to go to the doctor. It was a public health clinic by the way, people wouldn't pay for it.
Leohond15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but there's a difference not being well educated and not even reflecting on your own life experience and sexual development.
rfreitaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I don't remember when my pubes showed up. I'd guess it was after 8 or 9. But you know, older people who live in small towns have this kind of behavior and love going to the doctor. My grandma used to love going to a clinic.
Leohond15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess that's possible. And wow, 8 or 9? Are you a guy or girl? I don't think that happened to me until I was...maybe 11.
rfreitaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a guy, and I'm not sure about that age. Thinking about it now I have a picture of me when I was 9 and I have no leg hair. Guess it was after 10 then.
VampireSurgeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most young girls do have pubes, just not as dark as they are once puberty hits.
Leohond15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At SIX? Seriously pubes that young, even "light" ones?
VampireSurgeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I'm pretty sure they are to help keep debris away from the urethra and vagina.
TooAwkwardtoLive ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the last woman. What an idiot
The_Spartan_CV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that concludes my nightly browsing of reddit.
Kigarta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My nurse of a mother explained to me years ago about the homeless and maggots. While it is considered very unsanitary, because the maggots eat dead flesh the wound is often pretty clean. Outside of bacterial growth and the maggots themselves of course.
preparationrach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was the answer to the pube question?
rfreitaz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea, but I guess the girl shouldn't have pubes at 6. He said it like it was pretty obivous what the answer was, so...
MentallyPsycho ยท 643 points ยท Posted at 23:50:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom lost her shit when she found out my grandma didn't change her needle between blood sugar tests. My mom lectured her, I lectured her, and she still wont change it. It's like two years old. Grandma's gonna die of an infection one day but that's her problem. Also she had a friend who didn't know how to use the needle right, so instead of poking herself with it, she'd scratch her skin till she bled. I cringed when I heard that.
TomPalmer1979 ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 00:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When i first got diagnosed they sent me home with lancets and test strips, but no lancet gun. I seriously thought i had to manually stab myself with the lancet. Went out two days later and bought a lancet gun.
I change lancets for every single test. Most diabetics apparently think this is hilarious.
MentallyPsycho ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:32:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, that sucks. Glad you figured it out. And that's not normal? Ew. Would save money on lancets, though.
sexualcatperson ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:18:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly, I prefer to just prick my finger myself instead of using the gun. The gun hurts more.
ScrotumPower ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 10:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The smaller the prick is, the less painful ...
... never mind.
housebrickstocking ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:53:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL these exist... apparently I'm also an idiot - but I'm not a diabetic.
OpalFae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:28 on February 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, I only new about the lancet guns from my great grandmother until I had to start giving blood regularly and came across the manual lancets that just deploy with pressure (for anyone who hasn't done it, they check bloody sugar first). That hurts almost more than the next bit :(
plasticambulance ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny, I get to poke people all the time without a lancet gun. However when it comes time to poke my own finger, I turn into a big baby and NEED a gun
Mattzstar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I change mine like every couple of months. No infections here. I always change my insulin needles though... except for a couple times when I ran out...
TomPalmer1979 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very thankful to have a tame enough case that i don't have to do insulin. I caught it early, changed my lifestyle pretty drastically
ziburinis ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 04:14:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time she uses that needle it gets dulled. Microscopic bits flake up. Here are some photos of reused needles:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/petdiabetes/images/a/a3/Needles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20090906010612
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8527/8568278121_0ce20394a3_o.jpg
The second one even includes chunks of skin tissue on it which is all microscopic.
Maybe that will change her mind.
MentallyPsycho ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:55:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting photos. Unfortunately nothing will change her mind once she's made her mind up. Stubborn old witch.
vaginasinparis ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:33:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure that is the kind of needle you use to inject insulin, not to test your blood sugar. I can 100% feel the difference if I reuse a needle for insulin, but have never been able to tell with a lancet to test my blood sugar. Literally all the diabetics I know rarely change the lancet.
cpt_pancreas ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:39:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I don't know a single diabetic who frequently changes Lancet. Even changing injection needles every single time is difficult. Carrying around an injection pen is easy, but making sure you've always got a pocket of spare needles is less so.
lolghurt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the hollow needle for injecting deforms more than (what I assume is) a solid lancet.
emilizabify ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:07:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just so you know, those are needles for injecting insulin, they are not lancets, which have a very different shape, and are not so easily dulled.
indigoyoshi ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother was the same, also never washed her hands or wiped her fingers before testing. And she just stabbed her injectors through her clothes (the pen-like things with actual adjustable insulin). She lived to be 90, never had an infection and died of breast cancer. Meanwhile, my dad who is OCD as fuck and cleans himself and his house like it's a sterile laboratory has had MRSA twice. Go figure.
MentallyPsycho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes the universe is funny like that.
cpt_pancreas ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:38:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell who here is diabetic by whether they're horrified or laughing that you think most diabetics actually change their lancets regularly.
MentallyPsycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learn something new every day.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:26:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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vaginasinparis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other than recently when I changed it because I found one in the zipper pocket of my meter, I cannot remember the last time I changed my lancet. I don't ever notice the difference.
fire_thorn ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:51:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't really have to change the needle that often. Change it if it gets dull or if you let a family member use it. Sharing with a family member sounds weird but it happens sometimes. When I was taking care of my dad who has Alzheimer's, my mom never sent his kit so I would test him with mine. He was on insulin and actually needed to be tested after meals.
There's a joke among diabetics about changing out the lancet on St. Dismas day...a made up saint so there's not actually a St Dismas day. In other words, nobody's changing it. Pen needles are a different story though, they have to be changed.
emilizabify ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehhh, most people don't change the lancets frequently. Or ever.
Personally, I find that they hurt way more when they're new, so I hate changing mine. From what I've read, the risk of infection is extremely low, as it's just your own body fluids on the lancet, and there isn't much likelihood of exposure to external pathogens, unless you share the lancet with other people.
MentallyPsycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm somewhat of a clean freak, I can't stand the idea of not changing my lancet. Good the risk is low, though.
supbanana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:39:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad and his wife are both diabetic. I didn't meet my dad until I was 19 and when I went to his house he had a box on the floor full of used needles. I honestly thought he was an addict!
MentallyPsycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dear. Good thing he isn't, though. Diabetes sucks, but drug addiction is worse imo.
CrossBreedP ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:22:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... That needle must be dull as fuck by now. Honestly she is just making it more painful for herself...
emilizabify ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:15:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehhhh, personally, I find lancets to be super painful when they're new.... They hurt way less after a few days.
MentallyPsycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. My grandma is weird.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in medical claims reimbursement for a group of retirees that used to work for a large Midwest employer. Medical shit is goddamn expensive for old folks..it's practically elder abuse and makes me sick. ๐
Fionaxoxo ยท 5155 points ยท Posted at 21:33:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I suppose this is related, my mother (before she had kids) grew up not even knowing that you could breastfeed a baby. She was never told anything about what breasts were for, sex and even about homosexuality.
Her parents never talked about any topic that was considered taboo, my mother learnt about that once she had her first baby subsequently at 16.
GenevieveLeah ยท 1597 points ยท Posted at 22:06:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is so sad!
[deleted] ยท 1121 points ยท Posted at 02:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in the 90s, and every sitcom during that time taught me that I'd one day have the "sex talk" with my dad. I dreaded it for years... and it never happened. My parents didn't tell me jack shit about sex. Thankfully it was the 90s, so I learned enough from television.
whambat ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 04:05:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sex talk I got from my mom was 'Nice girls wait until they're married.' I was 17 and we were sitting at a stoplight in the car, she just decided that was the right moment I guess.
Awakend13 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 04:53:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both my parents confronted me (at different times) in the car about me having sex with my boyfriend. I was 17. My dad just asked, no judgement. Mom was all accusatory. She didn't agree with it at the time.
thesuper88 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:14:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents sat my two brothers and I down at the same time with an illustrated book. Nude cartoons that looked like the show "The Critic"...
throwaway969798 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:49:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
let's see here. my mom told me some basic stuff about sex when I was about 9 (she was telling my sister at the time and didn't mind me listening in (sister is 3 years older)). then at 11 I got taught some more about sex and masturbation in school (jokes on them I had already been jerking off for a while by then). and then at 12 I got reproduction in biology (9.4/10 bitch) where we had to learn about STIs, the various parts of both male and female genitals and the like. after this, I studied up on it online cause I find it super interesting and when I was 15-16 me and my friends would openly discuss these things in an academic manner. sooooooo go dutch education system?
KittyKami ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:32:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a TV programme in the UK about ten years ago that compared our standard sex ed classes to Dutch sex ed classes, 16 year old me was impressed and weirded out by how in-depth it got in some of the Dutch classes.
throwaway969798 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeeeaahhh............... maybe some stuff was a little too in depth but most people know the basics (not my ex girlfriend though she felt too awkward to pay attention)
Theartofdodging ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:59:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sex talk consisted of my mom saying ''You don't ever have to do anything you don't want to''. Which I guess is better, but still not very informative. On the other hand we had pretty good sex ed in school so...
whambat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty good, as these things go.
Jebediah_Johnson ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 05:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad tried to give me the talk when we were on the way to my wedding. I told him he had 23 years to bring it up and it was too late now. He looked mad but kept it to himself.
Summerie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, he was just trying to have a moment.
EgoSumAbbas ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 05:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents waited until I was 15 to give me the sex talk. My dad took me to a nice coffee shop, looked nervous as fuck, told me he had something to tell me, and started talking. Having had access to the internet for years at that point, I just cut him off and told him "I know." He just yelled "thank God!" and ordered us some cake.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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OneGoodRib ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 07:04:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least that's not bad advice, even if it was too late.
xtiaaneubaten ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:15:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its not great advice either, he should have followed through with a 'dont stick your dick in crazy', I would have been sorted.
pleasehelpssll ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:27:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened ?
xtiaaneubaten ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:34:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fell for a closet case, spent the next three years fucking him on the sly whilst he maintained his 'surfer with blonde girlfriend' image. I think hes married now, it was just a phase...
Tzipity ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:49:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just curious, were you out to your dad when he gave you that sex talk? Because I can imagine giving a sex talk to your gay child when you're a heterosexual isn't easy. Then again I came out to my mom as a lesbian when I was all of 10 or 11 and some of the first words out of her mouth were "How do lesbians have sex?" I still tease her about it but oh my gosh, I was 10!
xtiaaneubaten ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:00:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, actually totally not, he was a conservative catholic, he was giving me his version of 'sage advice for a straight son', little did he know Id been fucking random men since 13. Wow 10, go you. I wasnt offically out till 17 when my Mum asked
'why are you so depressed, is it because you are gay?'
'No Mum that has nothing to do with it, Im just a goth'
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:40:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha. I too was a young goth.
PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was 14 I turned to my friend and asked her if I could get pregnant from giving blowjobs. I genuinely thought I could get pregnant that way.
xtiaaneubaten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, cumpulsory sex ed in schools basically.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad: Just know what the fuck you're doing.
His stack of skin mags had done the job like a year earlier, so this was actually sufficient.
Tzipity ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:52:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. So I'm female and as a kid my dads playboys and hustlers and whatever we're kept in a magazine rack beside the toilet. I would sit there flipping through them from a very young age and even remember my mom asking what I was doing and me responding with "Reading daddy's sex magazines."
Meanwhile the mags all disappeared around the time my brother was being potty trained. I asked my mom about that not too long ago. She said "well, he was a boy. It was different."
Jokes on them anyhow, I turned out lesbian so... ;)
xtiaaneubaten ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
flashback
I remember buying my first skin mag when i was like 18, is printed porn even a thing now?
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear playboy stopped doing nudes in their magazine. So apparently not.
xtiaaneubaten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im gay so whenever I found one I would literally only read the articles, it used to be full of great writers, Margaret Atwood, Norman Mailer, Roald Dahl, Kerouack. Vonnegut off the top of my head...
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it's a thing like newspapers are a thing...
xtiaaneubaten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so basically not really a thing for anyone under 60.
captain_housecoat ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 03:17:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How very American...
Tzipity ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's also key for, poster above has a whole lot more left to learn and just doesn't know they're missing it. ;)
BookerDeWittsCarbine ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 02:44:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catholic? That's literally what happened to me too.
[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:53:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Southern Baptist.
BubblegumDaisies ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 03:05:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome friends.
(Only difference between Catholics and Southern Baptists is our guilt comes with a side of gravy)
thesuper88 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Quaker I resent your use of the word friends. That's ours!
uncanneyvalley ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:19:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catholics recognize each other at the liquor store, Southern Baptists don't.
Kered13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:55:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jews don't recognize Jesus as the son of God.
Protestants don't recognize the Pope as the head of the Church.
Baptists don't recognize each other at the liquor store.
BubblegumDaisies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But they will recognize you at Cabelas
vvundervvaal ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 03:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you can imagine the look on my father's face when I told him I was pregnant at 14. He works for the Southern Baptist Convention as an Interim Pastor who "fixes" broken churches. He disowned me when I didn't marry the sperm donor lol.
BookerDeWittsCarbine ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:08:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oof. My condolences.
somethingsjstntrght ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same.
cousinlazlo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:15:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom just bought me a ton of books when I was 12 and told me to ask if I had any questions.
Tzipity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:55:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol my mom did the same but she was a teacher so just checked the books out from the school library where she taught. My favorite part is that she specifically told me to only read the first several chapters (so the basic puberty stuff. I'm female and I did get a period talk at least so not sure what the books were even for then). But yeah, obviously when you get handed a book like that and restricted on what to read, you know I flipped to the back first.
This is also why I was certain pubic hair was called public hair for years. Granted it never made sense why hair in a place you tended to keep private was called public but eh... that's what happens when you learn from books.
Oh, and I also remember when a friend found a copy of The Joy Of Sex under her mom's bed. We used to sneak peaks. That whole thing had all those hilarious 70s illustrations. I've never forgotten the bizarre illustration of a man penetrating a woman with his toe.
BAMspek ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:23:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't have sex ed at school? I started in like 5th grade
Cathach2 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did in my school, but it was mostly that girls can get pregnant and here's some pics of diseased dicks. Basically were a condom or your dick will melt off.
fribbas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I recall of 5th grade sex ed was "It's not the first hole, it's not the third hole, it's the second hole". I'm not so sure I knew what "it" was referring to, at the time.
Now that I think about it, this might have been why I was convinced I was dying and even wrote a will when I started my period the next year. Good times.
OneGoodRib ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:08:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had something like puberty ed in 5th grade, mostly it was just about periods and wet dreams (we had to watch both videos; on the second day when they told us we'd bee learning about puberty for boys, you could tell the horror setting in as we all realized that meant the boys had seen the menstruation video the day before; they put us in separate rooms to watch the videos, I think fairly assuming it would be awkward for a mixed group of 10 year olds to be learning about puberty together).
I think we got actual sex ed in 7th grade and then I was in a weird mixed grade group for gym/health class in 12th grade and got sex ed again, and I've since learned that a lot of stuff we learned in that was wrong anyway.
available2tank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Philippines, all girls school (that was situated right next to an all boys school, how convenient). We had our first sex education at the 5th grade, but girls were already talking about rape in the 4th grade. I was a bit shocked hearing about rape that young cause I had just migrated back from the US.
They gave us further sex ed in high school.
thr33m0jo3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in Georgia and Alabama through the school, Alabama sex Ed was, don't have sex until your married or you could get an STD.
Georgia said that condoms are not very effective and the only way to not get pregnant or get an std was to not have sex.
Neither explained anything about sex Ed.
boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did too. All the kids who were younger than 5th would talk about the 5th grade "family life" unit like it was some kind of cryptid, so my parents never had to give me the talk since they knew I would learn about it in school.
Honestly, for all my elementary school's problems, their sex ed unit was pretty good. We learned about puberty, about genitals, about protection, and about the basics of how (hetero) sex works. No "wait til you're married!" preaching to kids who don't have any intention of having sex or getting married anytime soon anyway. In contrast, we very briefly touched the subject in high school health class, and our teacher basically just said "I figure you all know what sex is at this point. Don't do sex." Which is a fair assumption, but still knowing what sex is =/= knowing what safe sex is and how to practice it.
theycallmeheisenberg ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:53:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha same... waited and dreaded it... learned from the TV and internet... talk never happened. Almost started at one point but I shut it down.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:11:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
we had a group thing at all school with all the kids and parents, but it wasn't really in depth or anything (we were quite young, like maybe 10).
my parents have never had a proper sex talk with me, but I'm sure they know that I can find out anything on the internet that I want to.
((also with me being a queer, trans guy, they probably have no idea what sex would even entail for me and figure it's best for me to work it out myself))
compatrini ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My talk just consisted of my dad coming into my room and telling me that if I was having sex, I should stop. I was 17 and didn't really have sex all that often. If anything, that talk just made me want to do it more.
brazendynamic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents never had one with me either. I learned everything from the internet.
FormerGameDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
never had with my parents either. fortunately, i had the internet, i guess.
greffedufois ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got it at 10 from my mom. She locked the two of us in my parents bedroom and sat me down and explained everything over the course of 3 hours.
Good god I was so embarrassed. But I'm glad she gave me all that information.
fribbas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm nearing 30 and I'm still waiting for that talk...All I've gotten so far is literally "These are pads, they go on your underwear" months after needing them.
Luckily, like you, I had TV (the learning channel, indeed) and the internet to help me for most of my educational needs. Ohhh, the can of worms that opened.
LeodFitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my mother one question about sex. She turned bright red, explained it as quickly as possible, and we didn't talk for the rest of the day. AFter that, I just learned everything from the internet.
To this day, half of what I know is probably wrong.
aukondk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I had "the talk" with my parents, I don't remember anything specific anyway. I do however remember learning a lot from a book I found in the house called "Questions about Sex" which, I realize now, they must have left for me to find as I was the eldest.
Bizzshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine was a 5 minute conversation in the car explaining how condoms don't always work and that I'm proof of that.
bagboyrebel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents handed me a book
Sinakus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad tried to do it with me and I just reiterated stuff I knew from the Internet. He was visibly relieved, but now that I'm in my first relationship I kinda wish we had a guy to guy talk about it.
Celebrinborn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 18 when my parents had the talk with me lol
atombomb1945 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The 90's seemed to be the age of "Let's suppress the sexual revolution that we just lived through."
Like you, most of my sexual education came from TV and a few R rated movies. The famous "Talk" came at church group and school but many of my questions went unanswered because no-one seemed to have an answer for them.
Honestly, it's a wonder I didn't have a sexual harrasment charge before I graduated high school.
Viandante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sex talk came in while in my car with my father.
I already lost my virginity at that point and I already knew that condoms were important for disease and birth control, so it went like:
Dad: "Hey, you know, you have an age where you start approaching females-"
V: "I know, condoms and caution."
Dad: "How do you know that?"
V: "Euuhhh... sex ed."
Dad: "Ok, good talk. Good one."
And we never spoke of it again.
amgin3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. In my case though, I could not even learn from television. My mom grounded me when I was 16 when she caught me watching a PG-rated TV show in the middle of the afternoon because some of the characters were sitting in a sauna wrapped in towels (with nothing showing); Note that I already had a girlfriend at the time. I also quit drawing because my mom would ground me if I drew any gender specific features, even just the outline of boobs under clothes.. everything had to be straight lines. I was drawing a video game character at one time who wore a big necklace made from big round beads, and got yelled at because my mom thought they were boobs.
KassellTheArgonian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whatever Joey does, do the opposite
ER_nesto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never had the talk, I'm 18, my Dad was pretty much "I can't tell you anything you don't already know" after seeing my internet usage...
bubblegrubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah sex es from 90's tv... easliy responsible for at least a quarter of my mental health problems.
Munchlax_1147 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents did the same, I also grew up in the 90s (born in 87). At one point my dad asked me about what I was curious about during puberty and when I told him he scolded me. So I learned pretty much all I know from porn, google, and various YouTube videos which ended up being a lot thankfully.
MiladyRogue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it was the 90's and I had a "black box" in my room. :-)
f_leaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, I remember my dad giving me the talk when I was a teenager - I already knew more than he did about the subject, but it was so embarrassing for him (and me) I just didn't have the heart to tell him.
Imanobv2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully no parents will have to do that in the first world anymore... future kids'll have learned everything by the age of 10
well-ok-then ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember learning shit from my parents or school. I think I had a pretty good grasp of how things worked (if not how to convince girls to try them with me) This was pre internet. I suspect today's kids know more than their parents (assuming qtheir parents aren't gynecologists)
SillyFlyGuy ยท 498 points ยท Posted at 00:18:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the obvious outcome!
hamburgular70 ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 04:34:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love when people think not telling teens about sex is the way to keep them from having sex. I mean, they're going to figure it out. If for no other reason than teenage boys rub their dick on/in anything that will let them. Eventually that is bound to be a vagina.
darkparts ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:12:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the fact that this woman was told nothing and had a baby at 16.
serenity013 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even catch that til you pointed it out. I just glazed over the part about her being 16. Funny.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:36:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
b-but jesus!
AskMeAboutRepentance ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 23:57:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SAD!
-President-elect Trump
[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 01:54:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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bonesnappletea ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:29:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my favorite comment
Jamessuperfun ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:41:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her hole just got 10mm wider
Edit: fuck you all I'm proud of this one
degeneratelabs ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 03:27:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. People having babies is horrible...
deceasedhusband ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At 16 when you're too ignorant to make the choice for yourself? Yeah, it is.
Raknith ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:26:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no way a 16 year old can make anywhere near enough money to support a child, much less being mature enough. Most young people I see having babies nowadays, the baby ends up being taken care of by the grandparents.
degeneratelabs ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:13:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At 30 or any other age it is as well.
Nackles ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's totally not a cause/effect or anything. Pretty sad.
Fionaxoxo ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 00:32:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant more that her parents neglected to educate her about safe sex, she didn't even know she was pregnant till she was 8 months gone.
Bizarrmenian ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 01:02:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how do you go 8 months without knowing tbh? Didn't your grandma, Great aunts, or any female figure in your family not notice anything for that long? Or was it one of those cases where symptoms weren't really clear?
Jerico_Hill ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 01:59:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother was 7 months gone with my sister before she found out. She was still in her uk size 8 jeans, still had periods. My auntie was born when my grandmother went to the loo for a shit and caught a baby. Same story.
Bizarrmenian ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:34:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wat the....
Jerico_Hill ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how it went apparently. She went for a poo, pushed and whoops there's a baby in the loo.
Apparently concealed pregnancies run in the family. My worst nightmare.
ej531 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 03:07:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap. You can get tons of pregnancy strips on amazon for wicked cheap. I think if I were in your family i would pee on one every 2-4 weeks.
Bizarrmenian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:47:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nevermind the unexpected pregnancy.... What the hell is a Loo and where does it originate from?
Jerico_Hill ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's British for toilet.
radmelon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:30:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
British for toilet, and comes from the french "garde ร l'eau" (literally watch out for the water, l'eau is pronounced like low), traditionally called when emptying a chamber pot out of the window (thank goodness for plumbing).
mmmmpistolwhip ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:56:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My actual worst fear imagined.
Quothhernevermore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a reason the show "I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant" went on for so long, it's much more common than you'd think.
Jamessuperfun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:44:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me so mad I don't have the words. I want to hit these parents. They should be locked up for destroying their child's life because of the discomfort of a conversation.
TheBoni ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her first baby consequently at 16
FTFY
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 22:23:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As in, she didn't even know homosexuality was a thing?
Fionaxoxo ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 22:37:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope she didn't even know it existed.
[deleted] ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 00:06:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know what it was until I was a teen myself. Grew up in an more conservative area where kids would joke about marrying someone of the same sex but we didn't know it actually happened. I was a 90s kid.
Fionaxoxo ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:35:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my mum used to say that the topic was not allowed to be spoken of, any song that came on the radio that may have been seen sexual or in a way had homosexual tendencies was to be switched off straight away by her father.
She didn't even know George Micheal was gay back in the day.
I suppose its the way people are brought up and it takes someone to break the chain of what is considered taboo, my mum has brought us all up to be open about sex which is good.
W9CR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet she love Liberace
TorrentialKiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
George Michael was gay?!?
MiserableLurker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, once a guy was caught blowin' dudes in a park restroom a second time, it was kinda hard to deny...
LarryfromFinance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once is a mistake.
Twice is a hobby.
MiserableLurker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was, like, 3 or 4 times.
Quothhernevermore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was discovered passed away in his bed by his boyfriend...
TorrentialKiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:05:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up always thinking homosexuality was normal. I grew up in the suburbs of New York City. It wasn't until I was a teen did I learn homophobia was a thing. I was a 90s kid.
deceasedhusband ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:06:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was me too. I remember learning that gay marriage wasn't legal and assuming it was just some legal leftover no one thought to correct yet. I was REALLY surprised to learn that there are people out there actively fighting against gay marriage. I was like 9 and all I could think was "wtf that doesn't even affect you."
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:11:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle is gay and has been with his partner as long as my parents have been together and two of my childhood friends had lesbian parents. It's always seemed normal.
Sleepy_Chipmunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homophobia is taught/picked up from your environment, I'm pretty sure. I was confused about why others were against same-sex marriage too as a kid.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 00:37:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think it's interesting that there's a lot of conservative christian kids on reddit. I never met any christians growing up and wow these lifestyles are so different
i knew about gays as a kid but didn't know about christians
Cornthulhu ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:03:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in the US then odds are you're a Christian or had a Christian upbringing. A full 70% of Americans are Christian; over 40% of the population subscribes to some type of Protestant denomination while 20% is Catholic.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:02:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The percentages that actually practice are lower.
Kered13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:58:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of those aren't conservative Christians though. Hell, most of those only go to church once in a blue moon.
JustAnotherLemonTree ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:49:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY.
_KingMoonracer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:56:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah we still hang around :)
JustAnotherLemonTree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should've spoken for myself, my bad.
one_armed_herdazian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are ALL conservative Christian kids on this blessed day
JustAnotherLemonTree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blech, no I'm not, Ken M.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Former kids tho
contraigon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you from? I just don't understand how you could've never heard of Christianity.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm chinese, everyone i grew up with who wasn't atheist was confuciust or buddhist but there were not a lot of people who weren't atheist
besides, i doubt christians have heard of chinese religions growing up
contraigon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought Confucianism was a school of philosophy, not a religion, but I certainly knew what Buddhism was as a kid. I even had some vague idea what Shintoism was (although I didn't know it was called that).
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the thing about chinese religions is that they don't rule each out like how if you're christian you can't also be muslim. shintoism is also just japanese buddhism, zen buddhism is a chinese combination of original buddhism and taoism, confucianism is more separate as it believes that life after death is not reincarnation and you instead watch over your descendants. Many people I know believe in the feng shui and 'respect your elders' portion of confucianism but does not believe in heaven and follow buddhist meditation methods
contraigon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, now you've got me curious about a few things as eastern religions have always interested me.
I thought Shintoism had its own pantheon and a concept of an afterlife, as opposed to reincarnation, neither of which (correct me if I'm wrong) Buddhism has. I was also under the impression that taoism is a sect of Buddhism. Is that accurate or is it something separate?
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
taoism is older than buddhism and is a set of philosophies created by lao zi. buddhism was introduced to china much later. one of the main points is that there's no need to force anything to happen to to just let nature take its course. usually, i'd suggest reading the daodejing but i've yet to find an english translation with the same meaning as the original text.
Shintoism, based on what I remember, used to be the original japanese religion with thunder gods and rain gods etc but when buddhism spread to japan there were parts of shitoism that stayed its own religion and other parts that combined with buddhism. I don't think there's a lot of traditional shinto followers anymore.
contraigon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very interesting stuff. I'll have to look up taoism some time. I'm messianic Jewish myself, but I like to read up on other faiths so that I can understand where other people are coming from if I end up discussing religion with someone.
From what I understand, it's a mostly dead religion now, but it's influences on Japanese culture are still plain to see and it was thriving as recently as WWII.
TurtleTape ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This kind of thing just baffles me. I grew up southern baptist and still asked my mom pre-middle school who was the bride/groom if two men married each other. I just figured people could marry each other. My mom(she's the most liberal member of that age group and older, but still has her issues) just told me "neither, they'd both be grooms". How can you ever even not think it was a thing?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just thought it wasn't done, not that I thought there was anything wrong with it, I simply thought that just wasn't how it worked. I also didn't know what sex was until I was 12, I thought it was just naked kissing and it was something you HAD to do if you wanted kids. Didnt understand sexual attraction at that age either.
clcatlady ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Am gay.
BlueRocketMouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in a liberal part of SoCal and didn't know it was a thing until I learned about it on the internet as a teenager. It just never came up in conversation. Was born in the late 90s.
Kered13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids didn't call each other gay where you grew up?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it was a bad word but didn't know what it meant. Same with fuck.
Lington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's less unusual than not understanding breast feeding. If you grow up in a conservative family like hers, the thought of homosexuality probably just never crosses your mind because it doesn't come up at all in your life.
Quothhernevermore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's nuts. I can't remember when I realized it was a thing, really, but my mom had several friends who were lesbians so it must've been early.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did you find out that she didn't know homosexuality existed?
imminent_riot ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:35:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another weird thing was that my mother (born in the 50s) thought oral sex was only something gay men and lesbians did. When her first husband tried to go down on her she kicked him in the face and called him a queer.
LarryfromFinance ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:58:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry but that mental picture is fucking hilarious.
imminent_riot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:45:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's honestly a wonder I ended up with a healthy sex drive and am so sex positive.
l3ananaStand ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:05:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh bless her, visualizing this made me laugh :)
imminent_riot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:44:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too honestly, it came up because she insisted that was how I got strep throat (I didn't even have strep, it was tonsillitis)
ethlian ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:55:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't until I was like 14 too bad mom I still bang girls
LGBLTBBQ ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:32:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, I had no clue about it until at some point someone pretty much accused me of being gay.
I'd never thought about girls in any kind of romantic or sexual way before that point. But after being like what the fuck, why would someone think that about me, I started to think about it a bit.
Well whattaya know, turns out I was gay as shit. The fact that I started puberty later than most (around 14-15 which was a bit after the "you're a total dyke" situation occurred) probably had to do with it too. I had "crushes" on guys before because I thought I was supposed to. I was definitely never nearly as into them as all my friends seemed to be into theirs... then suddenly a little into high school all these girls were making me mighty uncomfortable.
cool_hand_luke ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the least shocking thing I've ever heard.
jetmcleod ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:12:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realize that someone who's raised under a rock (ie lots of super churchy parents do this) will have no clue about sexuality and reproduction. All she knew was sex felt good. If you didn't know that you'd get pregnant (or get someone pregnant) you'd probably end up in the same boat.
eigenvectorseven ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...that's legit what they just said.
apolloxer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:49:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, either people get taught or they learn anyway, just a bit later..
Mudderway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They often get first hand sexperience earlier if they aren't taught.
JuanPRamirez ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:28:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents grew up in a small Mexican community. When I first brought home my Vietnamese friend they told me not to date hee because then I won't be able to have babies...
Sad part is that she is my crush atm hahaha
aminoacetate ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:54:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm trying to figure out if "hee" is a typo or the girl's name.
cynical_genius ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:26:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do they think that Vietnamese and Mexicans are not genetically compatible and can't have children?
JuanPRamirez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:50:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably. That and my mother isn't used to having non Mexicans around. She critisized me when I brought my friends (I tend to get along very well with the Asian community in my high school) over to hangout
Rock_Me-Amadeus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:04:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife was the same. Had no idea what breasts were for until she met my older cousin who had kids.
DinerWaitress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why trips to a farm are so important for young people!
DarkChili ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, that backfired hard on your grandparents.
BoomerKeith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of a guy I worked with once. I was in college working a full time job in a mailroom and there was a kid about the same age as me working there too (we were probably 21 or 22). He was so sheltered. In fact, I had never met anyone so unknowingly dumb in my life. At one point, he asked me what breed of chicken lives under water. I was so confused until I realized he thought there was a breed of underwater chicken because of the Starkist Tuna "Chicken of the Sea" slogan.
Anyway, one day at lunch he sheepishly asks me if I can answer a question. I said sure and he asked "what do boobs look like?". I wasn't super shocked (like I said, he was very sheltered) until I realized he had no idea women had nipples. After asking him what he thought they looked like and having him describe basically a mound of flesh, I had to teach him about nipples.
I sometimes wonder what happened to him. He was so naive and knew very little about anything. He got the job because his family went to church with the owners of the business. Poor kid.
drivec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone in my neighborhood got married without understanding "sleeping with someone" didn't literally mean falling asleep next to them. Groom gets undressed and ready for the act, but she goes into shock. She locked herself in the bathroom while crying until her dad came to calm her down.
Another person I knew from high school had no idea the sex is how babies are formed, let alone had any idea that condoms existed. Yeah, she got pregnant right out of high school.
We really need to do comprehensive sex-ed in Utah instead of simply saying "don't have sex until you are married." It blows my mind that so many people don't understand how their bodies work.
hallipeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother-in-law also had this belief; however, it was due to her being the oldest and her mother not breastfeeding due to injury. As a child, my wife's grandmother was severely burned and lost the ability to do so as a result.
Dustin_00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't teach your daughter about sex, some boy will.
Fwish11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother was never told about menstruation before getting her period for the first time. The worst part is that she was Jewish, so when she told her mom, she got slapped. (The tradition is that your mother is supposed to slap you across the face after you get your first period.)
Kristaboo14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is awful! I'm hoping she actually educated herself on breastfeeding and did it.
Passing4human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister tells the story of a co-worker's batchelorette party in Houston in the 1980's. These gatherings can get pretty ribald and at this one they were playing a variation of Pin the Tail on the Donkey that involved Pinning the D*** on the Hunk. One of the attendees, another co-worker of the bride-to-be, was a Pakistani girl aged about 19....and she had no idea what the game was about.
ashadowwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it isn't uncommon for parents to not talk about sex with their kids but I mean, school? Friends? Did she never ask questions? Was everyone just as clueless as each other?
It baffles me that she didn't find out one way or another. I found out from reading library books because puberty made me interested. Parents didn't talk about it and the school did an okay job albeit late, but didn't satisfy me.
FruityBat_OFFICIAL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Went to Catholic school most of my life. Was sheltered and lied to which caused incredible disillusionment about the reality around me. Learned pretty much everything I know from watching massive quantities of porn and asking my partners where they want me to put my hands. I'm still not entirely sure how girls pee.
obviousdscretion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently breastfeeding was not very popular from the 1930s to about the 1970s due to the invention of baby formula. It was considered superior to breast milk. You know. Cuz a dude made it.
CatBedParadise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think I was told either. Between cows and Renaissance paintings, my classmates and I figured it out.
Frostblazer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she was never taught about sex, then what was she thinking when that boy was on top of her and thrusting away?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you say you're American I'm gonna be pissed. Fucking abstinence never fucking works.
adevilnguyen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor either... one day I was talking to my SIL telling her that the night before I had the private body part talk with my 4-5 yr old daughter. She chastised me telling me my daughter was too young for that talk and I should wait until she was my nieces age... my niece was 16 and pregnant and later when I talked to her she told me her mom told her babies come out of your rectum.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my Mum had a friend that went through this same thing. She was pregnant at 15 or 16 (1960's) and had absolutely no idea about what would happen, apparently she didn't even know where the baby comes out. She thought that it came out her belly-button.
There was one or two more things but I can't remember what they were, just minor misconceptions that she had.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nestle.
Mirewen15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a Christian school without sex Ed. Didn't have "the talk" and still figured out what everything was meant for. I guess common knowledge isn't common.
TheWolfwiththeDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I am scared that there is something obvious that I don't know.
icelizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like my grandma
howgreenwas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first husband didn't want me to breastfeed because he thought the breast mass was just milk and once the baby drank that, I'd have no boobs left. He also thought I would have to have a hole poked into them to let the milk out:(
RedLionSit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Teaching abstinence works.... clearly
oreosinmymouth ยท 5811 points ยท Posted at 20:33:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lady had a broken jaw. She comes in after 2 weeks with an open mandible fracture. Referred her to the hospital for immediate surgery. She never went bc it "doesn't bother her and she'll see if it gets better".
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VeryAwkwardCake ยท 224 points ยท Posted at 21:49:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NHS ftw I mean it's pretty shit and we have worse private healthcare, but there's no reason to have a broken anything without treatment
whydoyoulook ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 21:52:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When it's a choice between losing your home and getting treatment for something that was broken, most aren't going to choose treatment...
feckineejit ยท 216 points ยท Posted at 22:36:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah without the shitty state of the United States Healthcare system the world would never have breaking bad!
HEALTH BANKRUPTCY! If you get sick you could lose everything. People will ignore a minor health issue until it gets really bad and expensive.
The US needs Medicare for all. There's literally no good reason for the health care industry to be for profit. Not Amy reason other than all the profit
tamifromcali ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 22:59:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or your dying. I've lost 4 friends in 2 years to cancer. No health insurance. They went to the ER when the pain got bad enough. Stage 4. Dead in a month.
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SuperSulf ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do believe people with insurance (which should be most people) tend to visit a doctor more regularly, or at least don't forgo treatment as much. This is why having everyone automatically covered with universal healthcare prevents certain things go from "eh, it kinda hurts but its probably not serious" to "I'm gonig to die because that little thing was actually fatal if it wasn't caught within a month".
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Skithiryx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the VA was supposed to be pretty bad and the US is always talking about how the veterans are getting screwed over?
Though looking it up, it seems like the VA is somehow simultaneously mismanaged and underfunded and still providing just as good care as private providers, according to a recent review
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SilverFuchs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. This is why the NHS is so good, not because it's free, but because it gives you great advice on what requires home medication, a call to 111 (non-emergency), or 999.
The website is full of info on symptoms, medication, diagnosis process, all of it. I work with a lot of people with various disabilities and when I have to research it's the go-to reference
Frost_999 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 06:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not anymore. I haven't been since my insurance was raped by O'care. I own a small biz and I buy my own coverage and I have NO SUBSIDY. It went from $186/month to $314, my deductible went through the roof (and everything else dropped, but not in a good way), and if I actually GO to the Dr., I just have to have the insurance co's "negotiated rate". So it's like getting a discount, but copay visits are a thing of the past.
I realized how much cheaper it is to keep a few Z-paks bought from the web for the once every 12-24 month cold that might become an upper-resp. infection than to actually "use" my insurance.
SuperSulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What state are you in?
Frost_999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VA.
And it's nice to get down voted for sharing here.
SuperSulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe Virginia is one of the states that rejected the medicaid expansion with the ACA and subsidies. So you may have qualified for financial help, but your state's leaders decided to forgo that help.
As I mentioned earlier, VA and most red states rejected this federal help even though it wouldn't cost them more than 10% of the cost, max (and that's in a few years from now). So if you qualified for it, it is not the ACA that is to blame, but the Republicans running your state.
Frost_999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Va isn't a red state. I work all day and my wife does. There is no state currently where we would qualify for help but really need it (to just fkn cost less). Middle class enough to "just take it".
I say "we" because, as topical as this is for me.... adding my wife to the ticket and jumping from Anthem to Aetna. As I canceled their policy last week, they asked the normal "why's" that you may expect. Then, they told me that what I was moving to (plan wise) was not apples-to-apples with their plan (though it was), or I was lying about a subsidy. I didn't even know what to tell the Anthem rep. Yeah buddy, you got me.... going through the painful process of switching providers to pay more/get less, that's what I'm after...
I'm not a "red or blue" guy period. My insurance cost has soared while becoming unusable for anything non-life threatening. There is no reason for me to support this system or to have-supported it.
SuperSulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel ya. This is why we need universal healthcare in the USA. Cut out the people skimming of the top, charging outrageous prices and providing poor services. Insurance companies exist to make a profit . . . if everyone had medicaid it would be cheaper and instead of paying what you pay for insurance now, you'd pay a bit less than that but in taxes instead. Or significantly less depending on how the costs are worked out.
SlutForMarx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I'm so sorry that you got hit so hard by Obama Care - that fucking sucks! But I just wanted to chip in that there are so many people who benefit greatly from the package. The extra money you spend every month may very well be saving someone's life
Frost_999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope it does, because I get NOTHING for it. Less medical coverage/access and it costs more. I work >100 hrs a week. I'm not happy about it.
NobodyIsHereAnyMore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't tested it out (not seriously ill or dying) but ACA/Obamacare should have no limit once the out-of-pocket maximum is met. Don't know how much that is the case. Doesn't matter once it's repealed. High premiums I know but that along with no pre-existing disappearing will be a huge backwards step.
ICantSeeIt ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:45:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the other hand, I caught mine early and have been cancer-free for 2 years because I get regular checkups. Hardly any treatment needed either (2 surgeries). It makes a huge difference, as I'm sure you know.
I always got regular checks living in Canada, because why not? Kept the habit when I moved down to the states, but it's such a pain in the ass even with company healthcare. Fuck this stupid system.
newbris ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:34:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow...that really is bad. That must be so awful.
I will explain my experience but hopefully this doesn't sound like a gloat because just want to show other ways are possible.
I had symptoms a few weeks ago that could be caused by cancer or something trivial.
To be sure I went to the GP and she got my blood test organised immediately after the appointment...checking for worst case cancer right through to the trivial cause. Blood test clinic was professional, friendly, and no waiting.
After the blood test I had to cross the road and get an X-ray...professional, no waiting, friendly, all 5 mins walk from home....couldn't have asked for better.
The tests and scans were analysed by lunch time same day and the GP rang me just after lunch and told me all was good. All from me booking online the night before and visiting that morning.
Total cost $37 thanks to public health system. Australia. No claims, no insurance involved, almost no paperwork, just showed my public health care card.
NobodyIsHereAnyMore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was growing up the media always needled into your head "the earlier you catch cancer the better your odds." As I've gotten older I realize it's not that simple. Maybe healthcare was cheaper in the 90's. Also I don't get doctors who act like patients are wasting their time while charging 150 bucks for a 10 minute visit. It's the insurance but it's also the high costs. They're 50% of the problem people face.
calypso_cane ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:03:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, medical bankruptcy is a thing. I was in an accident out of nowhere while working for a university - nine broken bones and a brain injury. Hospital bills, medical loans for rehabilitation and further surgeries has left me out of work and financially fucked. The US healthcare system is so fucking shitty I don't even know where to start.
siempremalvado ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:26:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would've come along 20 years later as a show about a man who had to sell industrial quantities of meth to pay his student loans.
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lemonade_eyescream ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 01:56:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, I just saw on imgur today, one guy said a friend of his was all for getting rid of Obamacare, because he gets his health insurance from Affordable Care...
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turn_king ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all for universal healthcare, but I'm not for paying an extra penalty if I'm not signed up for it. Right now it is required that you purchase health insurance to be a student at my university. Tuition runs you about 4k each semester, and then the health insurance runs you another 2k... each semester. The health insurance, by itself is half as expensive as going to school at all.
The AFA did less to actually get people insurance, and more to fuck over those people who already had trouble affording it.
[those are in-state costs at a rural school, i know the prices are low]
weretomato ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:52:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Universal healthcare doesn't work if you can opt out. Duh.
turn_king ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean actual universal healthcare, not the half assed BS that obama set up.
cynar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:21:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not disagreeing wit your point, but it's the half arsed BS that was the best Obama could get through. Subtle, but critical, difference.
turn_king ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's time we reconsider monarchies.
RazorToothbrush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They likely require students to have some sort of insurance, and most students are likely under their parents plans as they are under 26 years old.
turn_king ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grad student.
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[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:53:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't had health insurance for the last two years directly because of obamacare, so your comment is pretty ignorant as well.
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Wilhelm_III ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, It's pretty shit all around. Well said.
the_GOATest ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:28:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They can make those decisions and suffer for them. I only feel bad for those struggling to get it but can't. I get wrecked by insurance every month but i'll be damned if a croak from some horseshit that could have been addressed early.
paganize ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A factoid for you. In the flyover states, there is very little, if any, competition between offerings. so the basic costs in rural areas is higher than in Urban areas. And while the Cost of living in rural areas is much lower, so is the average income.
For the rural people who make too much money to get it free but aren't middle-middle class+, Obamacare is a curse.
jobblejosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ignoring the flyover states only exacerbates the problems though...
horsecalledwar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, Obamacare is bad because it has more than doubled my premiums, given me a deductible in the thousands and higher copays while I get literally nothing for the extra cost.
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horsecalledwar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone I know who couldn't afford insurance before ACA still doesn't have it because it's still very expensive.
The only difference for me is that I now pay literally thousands of additional dollars I can't afford to get nothing in return. I'm getting the same coverage I had 5 years ago but it used to cost me hundreds of dollars, I'm paying roughly 10 x as much overall but not getting any additional benefit for my additional payments.
I don't give a duck about data points, I just know my coverage is ruined and I can no longer afford the treatment I need that I could afford pre ACA. And that's why this short sighted, ill advised law sucks, it has nothing to do with anyone being black & only a complete idiot would bring race into it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you thought about moving to a state where there's better laws? Like a nice blue one?
horsecalledwar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My state's pretty blue but I'm not sure how that would reverse the effects of an ill-advised, poorly planned federal law that ruined my healthcare.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VT has all sorts of stuff to help with it. Without the state rebates my monthly bill would be like $500, but with it it's $80. Doesn't help much with the price of prescriptions--I hit my $2k deductible every year.
Diannika ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:06:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, obamacare is bad because 1) its not actually affordable and 2) how does it deal with people who cant afford insurance but cant get on state insurance for some reason? Ooooh they are too poor for healthcare, lets FINE THEM
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pay 80 bucks and I make a decent living. Do these people just live in bad states?
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
80 bucks for how many people how often?
also, 80 bucks is a lot of money sometimes. you make a decent living (not sure what that means to you, but from context it means 80 bucks isnt much to you) but some people survive paycheck to paycheck. Adding another monthly (or biweekly, or whatever it ends up being) bill on top of that means that maybe their kids cant have fresh vegetables anymore, or has to substitute part of the milk/soymilk/whatever that their kids drink for nesquick (since its much cheaper if you make it with water and is fortified with nutrients). or if the kid is older, maybe now they only get to drink water most of the time, so that their food doesnt have to change too much. Maybe the parents one (or if they are lucky, 2) meals a day get skimpier.
VeryAwkwardCake ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 22:00:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant with the NHS
whydoyoulook ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:07:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No idea what NHS is...
OwenTheTyley ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 22:10:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
National Health Service... the British health system. I'm surprised you havent heard about it, most of us Brits in Reddit (rightfully!) Have a bit of a boner for it.
Haaaarry ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:09:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY. Vast majority of people are very passionate about the NHS, don't think I know anyone against it.
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:55:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:01:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also wasted my vote on a third party.
Ah well, in Australia, I think our systems better than the NHS. We're getting a bunch of ex-pat UK doctors as you can just go straight to working in our hospitals.
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:14:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, ours could be better, but everyone, rich or poor, in a life threatening situation, when the really need the care, will go to our public system. You only pay for convenience in private. You pay for the free cost by waiting in public (nowhere near as long as you wait in the UK).
Queen_Jezza ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:40:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it has to come from somewhere, or you have to raise taxes. Personally I wish they'd slash agriculture subsidies instead but there we go.
Ellend821 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:25:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't. The government makes the cuts without us voting for them to happen. Majority of the public, if not all, are in favour of more funding to the NHS. One of the main arguments for Brexit (falsely) was that were would be ยฃ300 million more a week to spend on the NHS.
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Ellend821 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There has been strikes but the issue is that being a national health service, unfortunately the doctors and nurses are demonised for not bowing to the governments pressures. The biggest strike last year was the Junior doctors strikes and although there was zero risk to patients being seen the media somehow made it that way. This was due to increasing hours and cutting junior doctors pay (even though they had not asked for a raise.. just cutting the agreed contract). I feel like most of the UK agree that Jeremy Hunt is the definition of his rhyming slang.
Party_Wolf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:33:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The government is run by people who don't need the NHS and therefore can cut it as long as they can spin it with a populist message.
nthcxd ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:14:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask millions of Trump supporters that stand to lose their Obamacare coverage.
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Mouse-Keyboard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because everyone who disagrees with Theresa May is a traitor trying to subvert the will of the people.
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SuperSulf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to a study I saw earlier, it's actually the best overall healthcare system in the world.
Dhudydbe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
US here, I hear there are long wait times to be seen and surgery could take forever is that true?
Loudmouthedcrackpot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It varies depending on urgency, availability of staff (for operations) and you get prioritised. The area you live in can also play a part because of the doctor - patient ratio.
I've only ever had minor procedures (related to kidney stones) and the emergency one was done and dusted within a few hours of presenting at A&E and the actual kidney stone removal was scheduled for a few weeks later (and happened on time). The hospital was also very accommodating and gave me the earliest possible op time so I would spend the least amount of time separated from my breastfed baby.
GP appointments can be tricky sometimes but, again, it varies. Sometimes they won't have an available appointment for a week or so, sometimes you can get one the next day. Children tend to be seen pretty quickly and anyone can ask for an urgent appointment if something serious crops up.
Smeggywulff ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 22:10:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
National Health Service. As an American I can only look on with envy.
In most other first world nations there's literally zero reason to go without healthcare. Most things are paid for by your taxes, no need to go bankrupt in order to put a cast on.
LeftZer0 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reporting from Brazil, we have free healthcare for those who need it and relatively cheap health plans for those who can afford it (full coverage, no copay, anything that can be medically backed is done no questions).
Step up, US.
oceanboy10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:00:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but NOT unlimited profits for corporations. This is what drives decision, policy and propaganda in the USA. You can see it here in comments, misinformation and falsehoods that have created a delusion in the American mindset about even considering the possibility that the United States could have a kick ass system for everyone IF it was prioritized over profits. Fuck it is disheartening hearing people argue and vote against their own best interests. But I have to give the ruling class credit for pulling it off. Impressive the scale and depth of the delusional mindset can be with misinformation and single issue politics combined with this new shift of post-truth politics. Wtf. That is just lying!
thatlookslikeavulva ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our current goverment is trying to kill the NHS. Threads like this terrify me.
[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 22:25:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trade off is that the NHS is stretched to absolute breaking point. I think it was just yesterday or even today that I was reading some (unsurprising at this point) article about patients starving to death or dying in corridors having been forgotten about for 48 hours or whatever. It's possibly the largest slice of the government spending pie chart too, total money pit.
AmyXBlue ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:39:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only hear those stories from Americans about why we shouldn't have universal health care and never from countries that have it. Besides its not like people aren't dying over here all the time for lack of health care.
WolfMack ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:00:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you are wrong. stop spreading your right wing propaganda.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explain why I'm wrong or what is 'right wing' about what I said. Note that one of the two articles I linked is from that notorious right-wing rag called The Guardian.
WolfMack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a lot more people die every year because of untreated conditions than deaths caused by poor care/understaffed hospitals. I work for a US insurance company... the health system is garbage
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why that falsifies anything I've said.
WolfMack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
youre just wrong about your opinions regarding universal healthcare. that's all
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you imagine my opinion is? I haven't actually given one. I may not even have a well-defined one. Just saying, it's not all roses.
bingoflamingo ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:32:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would be interested to see the article stating "patients starving to death or dying in the corridors in corridors". I can't believe this is true in the slightest. The NHS is stretched pretty thin by first world standards but this is the UK not rural Afghanistan.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Independent reckons patients are dying of thirst or malnutrition daily
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The Guardian just said some woman has died after 35 hours on a corridor
I'm not shocked if it's true, there's been similar articles coming out for years now. Another thing is that my mother is a nurse and recently she went to hand in her notice for retirement because her already tough hours were about to be increased. She said this brought her manager to the verge of tears because of other staff doing the same and not knowing how they would find the staff to replace her. So after her manager beggin her, she's ended up staying for a few more months. It sounds like a right shitstorm in our hospitals at the moment.
Haaaarry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is, the problem is the government is refusing to give good enough incentive for Doctors to stay here. One of my friends is training to become a Doctor and plans to move to another country when he's finished, largely because of pay etc. It's a shame, but honestly the NHS seems like it needs massive reforms and rebuilding top to bottom, supposedly it is massively inefficient.
CyborgQueen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:16:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is by design. The UK government is systematically defunding it, stretching it to the breaking point in order to propose the corporate privatization of healthcare like the American system, where insurance companies are racketeers charging exorbitant fees for basic treatment and healthcare becomes a matter of individual competitiveness rather than a government-managed, mandated right.
bingoflamingo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read something similar to this recently. The Tories are purposefully pushing the NHS to the brink of self destruction for the purpose of creating an attitude towards universal healthcare in the UK as unattainable and unrealistic.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does need either reforming or scrapping but I point the finger partly at us (ordinary citizens) too for a lifetime of stupid choices that end up needing hospital treatment in the first place. We're obese, we smoke, we drink, and we're sedentary, which sounds like a recipe for a stretched NHS to me.
bingoflamingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Although, poor care can't be ruled out a lot of these deaths are apparently due the illness they are suffering from or pre-existing conditions as opposed to poor care.
https://fullfact.org/health/how-many-patients-die-thirst-or-starvation/
"The ONS says that the figures donโt โprovide enough information to link the deaths to poor care, either in the hospital or in the care home. It is not possible to determine from these figures how or where the condition originated.
It also points out that the malnourishment or dehydration might be linked to a condition that affected the patientโs digestion, such as cancer in the digestive system; or โthe deceased may have been malnourished before they went into hospital".
Saying that, the NHS is still under a great deal of strain and poor care is definitely a rising issue as the doctors and nurses are spread increasingly thin. The NHS simply does't have the budget.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes that site does make sense. Maybe the starvation thing is media bullshit. Although if patients are being forgotten about due to the staff's attention having to be spread too thin (which sounds accurate at this point), some avoidable dehydration deaths in particular sound like a likely consequence.
pondlife78 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:06:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just underfunded - it's what happens when you vote in a right-wing government.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't look very under-funded to me, there's only one thing that gets funded more (pensions) and that's not funded by very much more (20% vs. 18%). I reckon the real problem is that as a nation we live like pigs, which means endless billions having to be spent on treating avoidable illnesses.
pondlife78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS Healthcare as a % of GDP is well below countries with a similar standard and breadth of care. You'll also note that the proportion is going up for most developed countries as past population growth catches up to us and it is going up for less developed countries as healthcare improves. Since we have had a conservative government this percentage is trending down in the UK. This article is out of date and doesn't fully show the trend I was looking for but I'm feeling lazy and it gives the general picture of what the conservatives have planned. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34586871.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not understanding something here then...
The % of GDP spent on healthcare in 2014 was 17.1% in the US, 9.1% in the UK. The GDP in 2014 was $17,393 bn in the US, and $2,998 bn in the UK. The population in 2014 was 318.9 million in the US, and 64.1 million in the UK.
This works out to an amount spent per person of about $9,326 in the US and $4,256 in the UK.
Why are so many Americans envious of the UK system? It sounds like they're cared for better based on those calculations.
pondlife78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to put a disclaimer here that the following is based on the situation a couple of years ago and I don't have time to check if it is still true or give you sources so feel free to fact-check me.
In the US the standard of care (more time spent with patients, shorter waiting lists, high-tech equipment and that type of thing) is better, for those with the money to access the system. However, the way that insurance normally works means you will pay individually for everything (up to a cap each year), in addition to paying more than UK citizens, on average, just for the insurance itself. Better jobs mean better insurance so typically the richest people with the best jobs (who could actually best afford to pay for their healthcare) are the ones who don't pay anything extra when they need treatment and the minimum wage workers will have to pay a large chunk themselves if they have an emergency. (It is also inflated a bit by the prevalence of lawsuits in the US.) The US is one of the world leaders in healthcare, but it's not readily available for a big chunk of the population.
Outcomes are actually better in the UK when looking at the overall population because it is free to the individual so people do not put off going to the doctor and allow injury/disease/illness to develop to the stage where treatment is difficult and expensive. Things like collective bargaining in the NHS and NICE (or whatever the new name is) are also important in making the UK system much more efficient. The US is a bit of a special case though due to the massive inequality in access to the top-tier treatment. Better comparisons are Western European countries with a national insurance system - generally the NHS performs worse but is massively cheaper so if we decide we want it to be better then giving them more money would seem to be a better option than rearranging what is objectively a very efficient system.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. OK. That does sound plausible, however... then I went googling and found this 'worldlifeexpectancy.com' webpage that claims to be comparing WHO data from 2014 on the top 10 causes of death in the UK and the US. They have calculated that, if the UK population was scaled up to match the larger US population, then 1.52 million people would've died from these illnesses in the UK, compared to 1.32 million that died in the US (which for context were 75% of overall US deaths that year).
So... the death rate from the top 10 causes, all of which are illnesses, was roughly 15% higher in the UK in 2014... meaning that for all its inequality, outcomes in the US are actually better when looking at the overall population?
pondlife78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The source you have looked at is not looking at medical outcomes but at causes of death. What you really need is a comparison from after someone has already got a specific injury or illness what happens in each country. I found the following from 2011 but it is based on overall mortality https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3147241/.
The statistics you have there are interesting as a comparison of causes of death, but the different total only shows that a higher proportion of the deaths in the UK are related to the top 10 causes than in the US. A good example of why this is not really relevant is looking at flu and pneumonia. The UK is a cold and wet country with a lot of old houses, a high population density and a high proportion of people living in urban areas. This means a much higher proportion of people die due to this sort of illness. It is not related to the standard of medical care.
Clockfaces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, was just going to say this.
BiggestFlower ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:23:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The UK spends less on healthcare than most western nations. We get excellent care for the amount spent, because our system is quite efficient.
CartoonsAreForKids ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:34:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Universal healthcare works perfectly well in other first world countries, so it's probably an issue with NHS itself, like mismanagement or corruption.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might be that we're a nation of fat, smoking, boozing shitbags.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:49:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woh, woh, woh, how the hell can over 50% of staff be managers? Surely that can't be right.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:36:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DailyFail I bet.
throwaway11272016 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really wouldn't mind, but right now I pay $50 and I see a specialist the next day. No waiting. I'd rather pay and be treated ASAP than wait in line.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care. I like what I have and I want to keep it. If we can do the single payer thing and I can keep my private insurance I'm down.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't act like people don't have to wait for specialists in America. There are only so many of them. In my large city, I had to wait months to see a neurologist for constant headaches because there are only 3 of them here. My friend had to wait 6 weeks for a gastro consult. The wait times depend on the number of available doctors regardless of where you live.
throwaway11272016 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in a major city and I have fantastic PPO insurance. I never wait.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure that because you have never waited, then everything is fine then.
throwaway11272016 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's fine for me. I'm down to make shit better for others but not at my expense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh by all means. I mean, who would want to be slightly inconvenienced so that everyone else could have their lives improve? That's not the American way.
throwaway11272016 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:29:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll pay more in taxes so they don't die in the street but I'm not going to fucking decrease my quality of care so we all have to wait a month to see a specialist.
Randomnerd29 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:01:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
free healthcare doesnt just help for check ups. it can pay for life saving treatments that people would need and typically cannot afford.
throwaway11272016 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:03:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and I don't mind paying for that. But I do not want to be forced onto a government plan. Let me keep my private insurance so I can see a specialist whenever I damn well please because I can afford it.
Smeggywulff ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:46:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone has that $50. That's something I didn't understand until circumstances forced me to leave the work force and saddled me with thousands of dollars of medical bills.
throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sucks, but that's why the free care will be there. You'll get taken care of. But if I wanna see my endocrinologist tomorrow, I'll pay.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:09:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DrAstronautEsquire ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:16:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For Canada, it's called Medicare federally, but the actual provincial health programs have different names (e.g. OHIP for Ontario).
shevrolet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:21:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The general system in Canada is called Medicare. You access it and are covered with Provincial health insurance. In Ontario we have OHIP, which is funded in part Federally and part *
payroll deductionsincome tax and payroll tax on employers.Lexifer31 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OHIP is not deducted from payroll.
It is however on your taxes.
shevrolet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, it's a payroll related tax for employers.
VeryAwkwardCake ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:10:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free healthcare ma dood
jb32647 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:15:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not Free, universal. If it was free you wouldn't have to pay taxes if you weren't sick.
ImAzura ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except you would have to pay taxes if you're not sick and you didn't have universal health care.
Some countries put their money towards bettering their country, some put it towards their defense, end of the day you're still paying taxes.
If we didn't have Universal Health Care in Canada, I'd still be paying taxes, the few dollars a year I'd contribute to universal health care would just end up going towards other things.
LeftZer0 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There isn't a cost associated with using the Healthcare provided, so "free" isn't wrong.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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whydoyoulook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was what I meant.
ImAzura ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:04:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you actually read what he wrote rather than take a part of what he said out of control text, you'd see he meant there's no reason to have anything not treated while under the NHS.
Cheesemaccheese ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:03:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean worse private health care? I had work insurance for 5 years and used it a couple times, it was amazing! Treated so quickly and efficiently after being referred by the NHS.
nooingtothelimit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have BUPA too and it's pretty limited compared to private healthcare in other countries. Here it's complimentary for specialist treatments, other places it's for your whole medical care, GP & emergency.
I've had care with both BUPA and the NHS and the quality of care was comparable for me, BUPA just happened quicker and the hospitals were decorated all fancy. I kinda prefer the informal care of NHS staff though, they'll get more emotionally involved, whereas bupa/spire/Nuffield people always seem a bit more emotionally at arms length.
nooingtothelimit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really think it is pretty shit. I mean, I've had multiple surgeries on the NHS that were done well, they've saved my life, they tried their best to save my mother's life.
I think we're just told the NHS is shit, when really doctors are just human, supply never perfectly meets demand and tabloids lap that shit up.
It's underfunded for sure, and I really feel for those on the frontline, It could be better, but "pretty shit" is a huge disservice for an utterly amazing service that we all owe so much to.
jimmypesto10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked as a doctor in America too, it's pretty fucking good compared to most of the world
courtoftheair ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:58:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homelessness seems like a pretty good reason.
VeryAwkwardCake ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:00:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you can stumble into any A&E and just get patched up
courtoftheair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And end up in worse debt?
VeryAwkwardCake ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NO FOR FUCK'S SAKE IT'S FREE
courtoftheair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wait you said a&e, the previous conversation was about America.
VeryAwkwardCake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it wasn't, I said NHS, which as I have repeatedly explained to various people is free
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I live in the UK, I am aware. Calm your boots. Not everyone has access to healthcare like we do.
CAPSLOCK_IRL ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:51:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, same hear. Gave myself stitchss with boiled dental floss. What they charge is a racket.
Loudmouthedcrackpot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:52:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT THE FUCK?!
No one should have to stitch themselves up with dental floss unless they're lost in the wilderness or something.
turn_king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We've all been there.
JDameekoh ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:14:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit that's probably me. I have insurance and still don't go though cause I'm a lazy fuck/worried about all the bad news lol
HookersAreTrueLove ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:20:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didnt have insurance for most of my adult life; I always took the "I'll just see if it gets better" route.
Now I have great insurance, but I still never go to the doctor because I don't understand when its appropriate to see a doctor and when its not.
rumborak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I moved to the US, I was always amazed at the number of people with "bad knees" at young age (like, in the 30s). I have been wondering whether the reluctance to go to a doctor is one of the reasons.
the_north_place ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep. so many scars and healed bone injuries. Also stitched my knee back up (nice good scar story)
Themightyoakwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two gaping holes in my teeth and fish Mox if the get infected. Fuck it.
RedLabelClayBuster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I've broken every finger on both hands, held wounds together with superglue, used a sheet as a sling, and burned warts off with a bolt heated up with a blowtorch. Being poor fucking sucked haha.
Gwuc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The American system is full of people who are financially forced to be cheap, which ends up costing everyone more money in the long run.
Preator_Shepard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not myself but my brother was in the same boat when we were living in the USA. He was sick all the time and it was either $100 at urgent care + the prescription price, or food at one point. :(
friggingeee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahh, the wonders of third world USA
rojro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've been putting off the gallbladder removal. Even with insurance it ends up costing way too darn much.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What could you have done to avoid surgery?
humanlvl1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That genuinely sounds like you live in a third world country or some post apocalyptic society.
Ikillsquirrels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god you got insurance before you had to perform surgery on yourself!
Z0di ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well shit, I had an elbow fracture a couple months ago.
mostly healed now, pops sometimes, can't afford surgery.
was told to go to the hospital and call my GP, but I was like "lol I'm not rich" and went home.
RedGeckoChainsaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got arthritis in my teens, some weird rare medical condition i cant spell and i spent 10 years destroying my joints. Now i need surgery but the local doctor is a hillbilly.
Prince_of_Savoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why socialized healthcare is so much cheaper.
That operation you are having will cost someone tens of thousands of dollars.
Getting your knee sorted out when you hurt it would have probably cost less than one thousand.
susgnome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'll be right.. just walk it off..
Let_you_down ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at Mr./Ms. Fancy over here with their stitching. Lol. Gauze and Superglue were my friends. I have some scars that are probably a lot bigger than necessary.
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If healthcare treatment is gunna stay this expensive and out of reach for most Americans I'd say this should be taught in schools (along with how to do taxes and shit cause fuck having to learn that when I became an adult that should be taught to us before we're an adult! Especially one that doesn't like asking for help)
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Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda is an understatement ha think of how many lives would be saved if everyone was taught this?
Lia-Panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't afford insurance before and now I'm just forced to pay for insurance I still can't afford to use. With a $6000 deductible I sure as shit won't be going to the doctor anytime soon.
ItPutsLotionOnItSkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My teeth are bad and my head hurts. Being poor sucks when you are young in the long run.
Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a car accident a couple months back in a company vehicle. My dad owns the company and I was borrowing a truck while mine was out of commission. I had some minor injuries in the accident at the time. Bruising, my knee got jammed into the trailer brake booster real good, and a dull ache from something right down the center of my right leg. I declined treatment at the scene, figuring I had just gotten myself into enough debt without the ambulance ride, and with the adrenaline I didn't think anything was wrong anyway. Woke up the next morning feeling like hell. Seatbelt bruise, random pain, etc. Knee bruise appeared in a couple days. I had a limp, I just figured it was my knee. About a week later I realized there was a pain in my right leg every time I sat for an extended period, like longer car rides or playing video games. I also now need to pop my hip fairly regularly to keep it from hurting. The real kicker is I found out today I was covered under the commercial policy as the business is liable for injury to occupants of the vehicle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I'm currently juggling legal fees, other accident related debt, all the while trying to maintain my existence as a college student. As I'm laying on my stomach my hip hurts a little bit right now. It's on the list of stuff I got to do, but it's a decent way down. I gotta get to the eye doctor at some point because these contacts are way overdue for replacement. My financial situation is entirely ruined for the time being. I know this isn't something that should be pushed off, but I don't exactly have another option right now. Also I'm not entirely sure how to explain to my GP that I was injured in an accident in November and am just now seeking treatment.
glberns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this before the ACA (Obamacare)? If so, you're lucky it was covered. Insurance usually wouldn't cover preexisting conditions pre-ACA.
ready999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand that you were poor but how did you kept getting hurt like that?
fennesz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I taught myself to (poorly) cauterize wounds when I was young because I knew I would never get insurance. And with Trump in office maybe I'll need to dust off all of those old skills again.
Koolaidguy541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plot twist, his dad taught him how to stitch a wound after removing his gall bladder.
CatsInSpaceSwag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read stuff like this and thank GOD im Canadian. It's so so so terrible and not fair... like what country does this? It's sick
Figms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha, this reminds me of bringing a note to my PE teacher in middle school after I'd broken my finger failing to catch a basketball. He asked me, well, did I have a doctor's note saying it was broken? I was flabbergasted, like man who goes to a doctor for a broken finger? We wrapped it up in popsicle sticks and medical tape, and now I can bend it really far backward. No harm done.
__Severus__Snape__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I love the NHS. No, it's not perfect, but you will be treated no matter what your financial situation. If you're under a certain income threshold or under 19 and in full time education you get your prescriptions for free. If you have to pay for your prescriptions, it's something like ยฃ8.25, no matter what you need.
I see shows like Scrubs and House where you get all these "time-wasters" in, but I tell you what, if I was paying for it, I would have to be on the brink of death to want to go.
Admittedly, I try not to go see a doctor unless I'm in genuinely bad pain/discomfort/whatever. But I can imagine a lot of time wasters ending up in A&E just because it's free.
LadyNemo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here growing up with no insurance and a single income! My mom was basically our nurse for everything - including treating broken bones. She had this giant book that had "Mayo Clinic" written on the cover that she would consult for any illness. I still call her over my PCP whenever I have a medical related question even though I have insurance now.
NoThrowLikeAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you there. As a foster kid, the foster parents sometimes would be pretty cavalier about health issues because of the cost. My teeth were all sorts of fucked up due to not going the the dentist for years on end. The one family that finally took me worked out a deal to save money with the dentist that, if there were cavities, instead of drilling and filling they would just pull the tooth with no anesthesia other than Oragel. Other than the times they took me, I hadn't gone to a dentist before so I had nothing to base my experiences against.
I was outright frightened of dentists as I got older, and avoided them like the plague. Reading stories about painful procedures just solidified my views on the subject. It wasn't until I was in my mid 20s that I worked up the courage to go back and found out gas and Novocain were absolute wonder drugs. Unfortunately by that time, my teeth were in such bad shape that I required a ton of expensive reconstructive oral surgery.
Over time with implants and all that, you wouldn't even know that I had any work done at all. I still have nightmares about the pain, and especially the cracking noise as the teeth were pulled, but my views on dentistry have completely changed and I made sure that my two sons have always had the best possible dental care.
Cybertronic72388 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You only get one body and putting off a lot of these issues are only costs more in the long run.
[deleted] ยท 2708 points ยท Posted at 22:11:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, as a Canadian this is such a fucked up thought. The health of a citizen should not be a luxury.
Several years ago I went in for appendicitis, came out of no where, and had to get it immediately taken out. The only bill my family paid was for parking.
MythologicalSimian ยท 833 points ยท Posted at 22:33:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the US. I was told three years ago that my appendix "looked angry" by a doctor that was treating me for another issue. I guess maybe inflamed or enlarged? Not sure, because my insurance ended with the job I had at the time and I haven't had insurance since then because I can't afford it. I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping it doesn't get angrier.
And to piggyback off of the first comment regarding the woman who left her broken jaw - I currently have a now very incorrectly healed left foot that I broke a few years ago. I didn't have insurance at the time and just left it. It's healed back now but still gives me a lot of pain at times... although the pain of having almost $20,000 in medical debt (which is low compared to a lot of other people I know) from other issues that I had no other choice but to get taken care of is much worse.
electricenergy ยท 295 points ยท Posted at 23:48:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get your shit together America. Christ.
bosco9 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:33:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why they voted for the guy who will America Great Again, like back when they had universal health care, oh wait they never had that...
JimmyRecard ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 00:06:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah mate, they need to repeal Obamacare. That's the priority healthcare issue in the country.
Fucking seppos.
the_grand_taco ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 00:16:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb fucking cunts
Highcalibur10 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Real talk: Medicare is fuckin phenomenal, let alone the private insurance options we have here.
the_grand_taco ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:40:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, fucking love my bulk billing doctor. Even seeing a pay first specialist I got most the money back in my account the day after. A $400 visit had $340 put back in my account the next day. I could have saved that $60 if I wanted to wait and see a bulk billing specialist.
Edit: I am talking Australian Medicare
Highcalibur10 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:47:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't think many other countries use the specific term 'medicare', so I think it was assumed.
Edit: Apparently it's also the pensioner healthcare in the US.
mtled ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's the official name, but "Medicare" is used in English in Quebec to refer to the provincial health insurance plan. It may have once been the name, or it's borrowed from the USA.
cocacolonization ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America has a massive Medicare system for the elderly/disabled.
shelliosis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, Medicare is the government funded healthcare coverage for people 65 & over (also younger disabled people). People who have it aren't super fond of it, but it's the best coverage available (aside from the Part D coverage gap aka the donut hole).
MrBootylove ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:38:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obamacare for the most part is terrible. One thing that is awesome about it is that you can get health insurance no matter what state you are in physically, so people with pre-existing conditions can get insured much easier. The problem with Obamacare is that unless you make minimum wage or don't work, it tends to be significantly more expensive to get insured than it was before Obamacare. Basically everyone who is not completely broke has to pick up the slack of those who are. Also, if you don't have insurance you get fined by the IRS for every month you're uninsured unless you are a complete bum and make no money at all, then you're exempt from the fine. I'm all for universal health care but Obamacare is not the answer unless it goes through some changes.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:10:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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psychicsword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me know if you still want to pay that 87โฌ/month when your healthcare costs an average closer to 850โฌ/month. We spend around $10k/year on Healthcare per person and that isn't magically going to go down because our corrupt government is negotiating rather than morally corrupt businesses owners. If you are a family of 3 and making $55k/year before taxes would you really think that a new US insurance system is going to take or add to your take home pay. We are hardly the most progressive country as it stands. Maybe after 20 years of a shit system it will get better but there are no guarantees.
alphager ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm paying the maximum amount allowed for health-insurance (8.352โฌ/year) and insure myself, my wife and any amount of kids I have. Included in this health insurance is continued pay in case of illness and preventative care.
I'm very happy with the system. A few years ago, right after the birth of my second child, my 2yo became very sick and needed to spend some time in intensive care and after that some stationary care in the hospital. All in all about a week. I stayed by her side the whole time.
The largest thing I had to worry about was how to get clothes to the hospital. I didn't lose my job (taking care of sick children counts as illness), I didn't lose vacation days (sick days as a concept don't exist in Germany; when you are sick you stay home), I didn't lose money (health insurance paid my salary) and I only had to pay some extras in the hospital (a small charge for my food, parking).
psychicsword ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right but just copy pasting your system over the US healthcare system doesn't make $8847.27/year per family feasible. Especially when it currently costs 2x-3x that much right now. A large reason we spend more as a country is that we utilize cheaper care less(doctors offices, preventative care) and we use expensive care more often(MRIs, x-rays, ER). A US System won't get the cost savings by market utilization shifts on day 1 and we will still have the health costs we have always had but the taxpayers will be covering all of it though a single payer system rather than our existing healthcare system.
MrBootylove ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's gonna be more than 87 a month. Try 200.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:37:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MrBootylove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pay closer to $1000 because of my income, but I walked my friend through the sign up process. He has been unemployed for a while and the minimum monthly payment for the lowest tier insurance plan was something like $230.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing the other guys is talking about Germany and not the US
MrBootylove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the fact that he said he was a student in germany gave it away. I was talking about Obamacare and he responded with what he pays relative to his income and I was pointing out that if he were in the US, he'd be paying more than double what he pays there.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except at no point before saying "$" did you make that clear. Leading the reader to believe you are disagreeing with his particular situation.
MrBootylove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you're right. Maybe it's just you that read it that way, though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might not just have been me judging by the vote count
MrBootylove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured the downvotes were just because of my joyful personality.
Jupiterswrath ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sad thing is its honestly the best we've got and the best we will have for a good long while. With half the Democrats thinking single-payer is too much, and almost the entirety of the Republicans thinking the mere idea comes straight from Satan himself, it's not happening for a long ass time. Not to even mention the tons of people who think "why should I support some injured bum, he can pay his own damn way".
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:11:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in market research, primarily for health insurance companies. I have news for you, this has little to do with Obamacare. Prices were increasing like crazy before the ACA existed. As far as the mandate goes, the UK has a mandate too. You can't opt out of paying for the NHS through your taxes there either...
DeadlyLast ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 02:35:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're so badly informed, and the fact that you're getting upvoted is borderline upsetting. Here's why:
Premium was going up before Obama even took office, much less Obamacare went into effect. Increase in health insurance premium actually slowed down under Obamacare. So no, Obamacare didn't make it "significantly more expensive to get insured." Other factors in the healthcare industry did.
No shit. How do you think insurance, any kind of insurance, actually works? How do you expect insurance companies to make money if they are expected to pay more money than they take in from each insuree? Even under a single-payer system, the tax payers who aren't sick have to cover for tax payers who do get sick.
Listen, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You like people with pre-exisiting conditions getting insured? Then you need individual mandate, otherwise nobody would get insurance until they get sick, and the whole system would fall apart (again, this is how insurance, of any kind, works). You can't just mandate everyone to pay for health insurance, because not everyone can afford it, and unlike car insurance (where you can just ditch your car to avoid paying for insurance), you can't really just stop having health unless you, well, die. So you need reimbursement for the poor.
Keep in mind that a lot of smart people worked on Obamacare, before congress stripped it down to the bare-bone version it is today. It's not perfect, but absolutely not for the reasons you listed.
MrBootylove ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can understand my confusion considering my insurance payments sky rocketed shortly after the ACA went into effect. I'm not saying your wrong I'm just hoping you can see why I'd think the ACA had a hand in it. No need to be rude.
suparokr ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't write that much more informative response to your comment, but I've always been confused by people that speak so confidently about something they know nothing about. I mean, if you know that you don't know something, why not preface your comment by saying, "I'm not sure" or "I think"?
The commenter that responded to you might've been "rude", but every you've stated, at worst, convinced 20+ people that Obamacare is "for the most part terrible". I'd feel a bit bad for someone being rude to you, but your comment still stands, meaning you haven't recognized/apologized or stated, to everyone reading your comment, that you're lying, or put lightly, that you are ignorant of any facts or nuances, and that you're simply providing your own anecdote/experience.
This eight here, is why, in Trump's words, "nobody knows exactly what's going on."
MrBootylove ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:52:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only statement I said that was wrong was that insurance became more expensive because of Obamacare. As the commenter above me pointed out insurance prices rose due to "other factors in the healthcare industry." Everything else that I said is true. My sentiment about Obamacare still stands as it is still not a good system. I'm not worried about someone reading my comment and taking it as fact, because there are a ton of other comments just below mine that correct any falsities and continue the dialogue. I'm getting upvoted because I wasn't completely wrong and a lot of Americans, like myself, are not happy with the system. Some would prefer it to go back to before the ACA, others, like myself, would prefer if the US adopted a system closer to some of the more progressive countries. Really I just don't want my medical insurance to be my most expensive bill each month.
MangyWendigo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:52:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
obamacare is a step towards universal care. if we had a progressive president the next step would be a public option which, being cheapest, would drive the economic parasites out of business, getting us universal single payer de facto
but now we are going to repeal obamacare and replace it with nothing, leaving us worse off financially and healthwise
because so many americans are so ignorant about this topic and dont even try to educate themselves
DeadlyLast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I can't understand your confusion, because apparently you're tech-competent enough to use reddit, but couldn't be bother to do the 2 minutes of googling it takes to find tens of reputable news sources that all dispute what you were purporting to be everyone's experience with Obamacare, despite the fact that you know you're just extrapolating your own story.
SurprisedPotato ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:00:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My perspective on this (an Aussie)
Here's why you have Obamacare:
Why it sucks:
If Clinton had won:
Instead:
TL;DR: Your system sucks, but Obamacare is the best you've ever had. Move to Canada or Australia or anywhere else, really.
bassmentwork ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And hilariously, people (republicans) that claim ACA made insurance rates go up will be absolutely fucking floored when insurance rates do not go down after repealing ACA.
stranged558 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here is at least part of the problem (I'm American)
There are a ton of people that like to complain that they cant afford medical insurance and that it is a rip off. However they also like their leases on their brand new cars every three years, their current model I-phone, and eating out 6 days a week. I personally know many people that fall into this category.
Now I will agree with you that there is obviously countless people that cannot actually afford insurance for whatever reason and those people do need help (many states had systems in place even before Obamacare). I would say a large portion of people however don't find the money for insurance simply because they know there is an out and they can just go to the ER and even if they cant afford the treatment they will get it.
Now here is where the real fun happens in our system. If you don't have available money and pretty much live paycheck to paycheck regardless of all your toys then the hospitals will take a settlement for small fractions of what they would hit anyone with insurance for, just so they can get some money out of the deal.
I'm sure people will tell me I'm insensitive among other things however I have a really hard time seeing so many people that make decent money, and even have jobs that have health care refuse to take it just because they cant "afford" it.
L3T3RSW8T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is that there's complications that can't be treated in the ER. Sometimes you need prolonged specialized care.
LastArmistice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's many things the ER can't do- refill and subsidise ongoing prescriptions for one example. Diagnosing and treating mental health disorders. Perform routine physicals for children and the elderly. Do gynecological exams and STD testing.
There are SO MANY quality of life issues that, left untreated en masse, translate to a less healthy, less productive society. Which is why countries like Canada and the UK are willing to allocate vast swaths of resources to ensuring that it remains a stable institution, no matter how many other awesome things that time and money could be put to work doing.
L3T3RSW8T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Sabin10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obamacare would be a great thing if your hospitals weren't marking up every medication, procedure and administrative cost by between 2000 and 10000 percent. If America copied the healthcare system of almost any other country they would be able to provide universal care for everyone at the same cost that they currently spend on Medicare/Medicaid. They might have to give up the hospital boards staffed by several dozen people earning 7 and 8 figure salaries though.
MrBootylove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The other issue is you still go through private insurance companies with Obamacare. I agree with you completely, though.
Lifesagame81 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure you can buy health insurance outside of the state you physically live in. Even if you could, your network may be unusable (unless you wanted to travel to whatever region your insurance operated in).
Insurance has consistently been more expensive today than in previous years, long before the ACA was passed. It is why we were talking for decades about fixing the system, somehow (though every major effort before the ACA failed).
Subsidies for lower income folks (that aren't covered by Medicare but are buying on the exchanges) come from taxes elsewhere, not from folks paying full price to private health insurance companies, though increased expenses to hospitals are surely passed down as higher prices to insurance companies, which are handed down as higher premiums for insurance buyers.
If you choose not to have insurance, you are generally asking all of those buying insurance to subsidize your choice (unless you have the cash on hand to pay for whatever unforeseen medical emergency may come your way in the future).
What should we do instead? Single Payer system? Medicare for all?
MrBootylove ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't mean state as in "kentucky" I meant state as in "I am currently in a physically ill state."
Lifesagame81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that makes way more sense. My mistake.
TheTartanDervish ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It created a cartel system, and gutted Medicare to pay for Obamacare which left the working poor with nothing. Then they added the penalty, so the veteran hospitals got swarmed with veterans+esp their families and exes trying to get into an already overloaded and backlogged system. I had my own insurance until it cost 6x more for a worse version!
EDIT: Using the blue arrow to disagree, and without contributing anything by commenting. Seriously, call a veteran service officer and ask how the ACA worked against veterans.
Transientmind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, Obamacare is a shitty fucking solution. It's not universal health-care, it's just a bullshit 'cheaper' insurance provider. The whole system of overcharging for basic shit based on who your insurer is and how much they can squeeze them for continues.
Should've been an Australian-style solution to make the insurers irrelevant... but that would've been fucking impossible. The kind of cunts who hold public health to ransom would've been hiring fucking hitmen if they couldn't buy their way out of that.
Zinouweel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what about the ACA though?! Can we not just get rid of Obamacare and focus on the ACA? Obamacare is anti American since it takes our freedom and liberty, while the ACA gives back to the people.
Yes, I know, same thing. I'm just rephrasing what I've learned on the frontpage today lmao
Silver5005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amen brother. Its like some half capitalistic half communistic bullshit fest.
electricenergy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:28:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha I had to google that one.
embigger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, the efforts to repeal it probably won't help things, at least given the costs of doing so, but it's not hard to find dumb shit lying around.
There a lot of problems with it that a layperson should be able to see.
The of idea of having your insurance through your employer as a mandate is totally fucking weird. Is that what we should have on our minds when getting jobs? Is that what employers should have on their minds? It's bizarre.
There are now new taxes on medical devices, pharmaceutical companies (based on market share), and on FSA plans. This will continue to elevate costs of healthcare.
We should not be offering gov't discounts on name brand drugs. Off-Brand only. It's pissing away money and jacking up costs.
We need to stop pussy-footing it and passing weird and arbitrary laws. We should have single payer healthcare. It's shown consistency to be cheaper in other countries, and cover everyone. The only established expense is reducing the quality somewhat. Failing to cover medical expenses is the epitome of creating negative externalities.
xtremechaos ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:32:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, the Trump supporters literally want to drop a trillion dollars on a fucking wall. Probably thinking to line it with archers to defend the evil rapist Mexican invaders.
I hate countrymen sometimes
ywu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:40:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And themselves have no insurance, just leave their broken jaws to heal themselves. We would have Bernie. I am so sad and loosing hope.
Queen_Jezza ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're off by a couple of orders of magnitude there.
Jupiterswrath ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:57:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A couple billion dollars? That still sounds like a fucking waste of money for a stupid ass idea that won't even be effective. If you really want to get them "not their best, rapists, murders, blah blah yada yuge wall" have the fucking military patrol the border with all the toys they have. Not that I support using the military in the fashion as it's fucking insane, but it'll be leagues more effective than that goddamn wall.
stranged558 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are already outraged by a wall. First off I don't agree with the wall so lets start there. However the military isn't free and even with their toys I'm sure what you are proposing is a massive undertaking.
The other thing about the military "patrolling" the border is what exactly are they supposed to do if they catch someone trying to sneak in? Shoot them? Send people to try and catch them and send them back? Imprison them? All those things sound a lot more expensive then the wall in the long run.
Transientmind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:41:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seeing interviews with the folks who are already doing border patrol, they desperately want to be allowed to shoot. "Let us do our jobs," is Border Patrol code for, "Let us shoot them."
Queen_Jezza ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe that's legal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
well_here_I_am ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:17:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see people say this all the time, but I don't believe it. There are parts of the border where there's not even a barbed wire fence. There are areas 30 miles on our side of the line where the cartels operate without fear of law enforcement. A wall isn't a perfect solution, but you can't deny that a well-patrolled barrier of some sort wouldn't cut down on the amount of foot traffic back and forth. A leaky roof is still better than a roof with massive holes in it.
xtremechaos ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The majority of fucking illegals come by airplane you dumbass
well_here_I_am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ones that fly in aren't the ones I really worry about. It's much harder to run guns and narcotics and traffick humans by plane.
iLikeStuff77 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well maintained barricades are pretty effective. The U.S. has increasingly spent large amounts of money implementing such barricades for the southern border. Although that fact is usually ignored by both sides.
Due to the increased border security and a weaker economy the number of illegal immigrants in this country has actually stabilized.
Which is why the wall is such a colossally stupid proposal. Not only would cheaper barriers be nearly as effective, it's no longer a large enough problem to warrant anything close to the cost.
Mr44Red ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Than they'll just use fucking tunnels
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Jupiterswrath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We'll build a wall to hell and make Satan pay for it!
well_here_I_am ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you honestly think that you just build a wall and forget about it? No, you have the Border Patrol patrol it. Tunnels aren't invisible, they don't go undetected, but the Border Patrol needs some sort of barrier between them and the cartels to patrol safely.
Flavahbeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jeez, 100 trillion dollars? who can afford this crap
guto8797 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the media sponsored by the health insurances tells me everywhere where people get basic health needs becomes a communist hell-hole with waiting lines of 100 trillion years and doctors that are really nazi werewolves! And I paid more money with Obamacare even tho the blame is of the insurance companies who saw a perfect opportunity to jack up prices!
/s/
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, we'd prefer to do the exact opposite of that apparently.
GKinslayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know the answer to that, we elected Trump.
turn_king ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We make our citizens tough and able to stitch themselves back together.
that's why americans are still men while europeans have become pussies.
Not_gr8_b8_m8 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Obama
E: we are slowly getting our shit together, the next 8 years are going to be exciting
hrehbfthbrweer ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:49:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it makes you feel better, my appendix was angry like 15 years ago and I haven't had any trouble with it since.
I was poor as shit at the time and had a very 'wait and see' type of doctor. If it weren't for that, it probably would have been taken out already.
MythologicalSimian ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:50:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually does make me feel better. :) Here's to hoping neither of them get any angrier!
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just need some couples therapy. Sit down with a councilor and talk it out with your appendix.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, where I live therapy is cheaper than the doctor so that's a pretty good plan. :P
juniorsis ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:52:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I thought it was bad having to pay for this crazy deductible insurance I have. But a few years back I had hand surgery to repair some tendons I cut after putting my hand through a glass table and the bill came to $40,000, but I only had to pay $5000 which is my deductible. Then to make it even better my son had to have an emergency appendectomy which came to a total of $65,000, but because I already met my deductible I didn't have to pay a dime for that one thankfully.
MythologicalSimian ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 23:57:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$5,000 does seem low when you put it into terms like that, but honestly, even $5,000 (along with what you presumably pay per month for insurance) is still pretty shitty to have to pay for an accident or an organ randomly failing.
I am simultaneously incredibly jealous of other countries who have better health systems than the US but also just happy that at least their citizens do get the benefit of simply living a healthy life.
karlexceed ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing, right?
In the grand scheme, especially compared to the full bill of a hospital visit, $5k is pretty minor.
But, for example, I have access to a plan at $250 a month, $6.5k deductible. It's because I'm young, working, and don't get subsidies. Trouble is, if I paid that monthly premium I wouldn't have $6.5k to spend toward anything. The premium + deductible is more than 20% of my annual income. My total net worth liquidated in cash is about what my deductible would be. Literally either choice (insured/uninsured) will probably eventually bankrupt me.
So what's the plan? Go uninsured, of course. At least I get to keep my car to get to work and some money for, ya know, rent and food.
For the record, I like some of the changes the ACA brought, but it fell far short of the single payer system that I want. Health insurance is immoral in my opinion. Healthcare is a right, not a privilege.
MythologicalSimian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you one hundred and fifty percent. Seriously. That's the reason I go uninsured. I have to eat to live or my health insurance would be pretty useless anyway, so I'll choose groceries over insurance. What else can you do?
stranged558 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:27:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is regardless of how you look at it, its not free. Even if the government suddenly became like other countries and the government completely took over healthcare. Do you think your taxes would remain the same?
Doctors aren't going to take paycuts so that everyone can get health insurance and the cost will go down just because the government takes over insurance. The hospitals aren't suddenly going to want less profit either.
So like I said earlier here this is the problem and how people look at it. You will go uninsured because you know that if something happens to you then the hospital has to help you. And since you wont be able to afford it they will either reduce, forgive, or put the bill on payments. You know they wont be able to take your car or any of your possessions (not that I want them to just stating the scenario) so there really isn't a major risk to go uninsured.
However this same factor is what causes the cost of all health insurance plans to be so high. Because everyone is not pitching in their part of the equation, the people that do have health insurance end up paying higher bills and insurance premiums to cover the amount of debt that is forgiven or reduced.
So a few things people often overlook when talking about medical. First off your payments are all tax deductible so that 250$ a month that you would pay isn't actually going to lose you $250 a month probably closer to 150-170 since it is taken out pre-tax. The same would also go for any amount you have to pay in actual medical bills.
Now ill use you as an example here and say since you stated $9500 is over 20% of your income that you likely make around 45k a year. I agree that is an insane amount of money to pay, however you aren't likely to have $9500 every year. In fact more likely is that you will pay your 3k in fees and maybe 1k (which is maybe 2.5k in post-tax money) in visits if you are young and be fine for years. However if something awful was to happen one year and suddenly put you in the hospital with a 130k bill you would still only owe your $9500 max.
Problem is you cant bleed a stone so that 130k bill even if it bankrupted you the hospital would still never see that money and would just pass along the cost to someone's insurance that can afford it. On and on it goes, until there is some risk to people that are uninsured it will just never change. Thing that's awful to think about is what risk could there be? I don't agree with not treating people either.
karlexceed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:48:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it's not free. Of course taxes would go up under single payer.
But it addresses the exact problem that you so eloquently wrote about. In a single payer system everyone is covered, everyone is in the pool. It's the ideal health insurance, because the risk is spread as far as possible.
And at that point, taking actual insurance companies out of the middle, there are less shareholders to take a piece of the pie. Hospitals and healthcare providers could actually get paid what they're owed instead of having to forgive debts.
And if we took profit out of healthcare entirely, it only further reduces costs, and money magically appears where once it went into someone's pocket. Of course I realize that's that idea is a bit far out there, but it makes sense to me.
stranged558 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:27:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well lets at least be fair here. I am 100% positive the government can mismanage and misappropriate funds at least as much as the profits that insurance companies make.
However don't you think your taxes would go up at least as much as a couple hundred dollars a month for something like "free" health care? That is of course some of the problem with government run systems they like to borrow the money for other purposes. There is plenty of proof of that.
Besides everyone being in the pool still hardly means that everyone will be paying their fair share.
Ill admit though I wish it was the type of thing government didn't have to get involved in and people just had an amount they could afford for insurance and paid it. I already cringe pretty much every time I look at my taxes and how much I pay, I really am in no hurry to pay more taxes. I am also not a huge fan of our government overseeing our health records. Although this may be a bit tin foil hat type talk.
I really believe in no way will government ever be more efficient at anything then a private business will be. Buisness will always strive to be more efficient for more profits, where government doesn't have to care it can always just tax more to pay the bill. However it may be the only way to make people pay their part.
karlexceed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if I agreed that the government could mismanage as much money as an insurance company profits, that doesn't mean it would. Any non-mismanagement is already a win right there.
I started my last post saying of course I know it's not 'free', and yes, I understand taxes would go up. But at the same time, your out of pocket costs go to zero. And this tax would likely be adjusted for income to make it fair. And once again, with every citizen in the pool, costs of the 'insurance' would go down over all. Thus, nationally a net decrease in household healthcare spending.
Finally, I think this is the real difference between our points of view... I trust that the people who make up our government are decent Americans like us, and that the government exists to serve the needs of everyone in the country beyond just keeping an army around. You'd really rather some underpaid 20 something desk jockey at an insurance company see your health records than a bureaucrat in a government office? You trust corporate profit motives to look out for your best interests?
Government does the things that companies won't because they can't make a buck off of it. If we become overtaxed and leave or die young, the government has a serious issue and will fix it, because without us it's nothing. Companies will just move, because they don't need us they just need someone.
JadedCop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:37 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If my taxes went up a couple hundred dollars a month (e.g. the cost of healthcare [$275/mo]) and I didn't have to pay a doctor when I went in I could finally be doing something about this fucking crippling pain I deal with daily. But because ever single procedure requires money I can't afford it. So I sit here, daily, after working 8-10 hours and two hours of travel because I make fuckall money anyway and can't afford to live near where I work.. in pain..
No doubt you'll have an explanation or argument contrary my view point and once upon a time ago I'd banter back but really I just don't have the interest anymore. I'm tired of people arguing back and forth with little reward. Be well.
stranged558 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:53 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear you having to suffer because of healthcare costs. And I know there are a lot of people that work their ass off and cant afford healthcare and it is definitely not right.
The older I have got the more jaded I've likely become. I would love for healthcare to cost even $500 a month in taxes if it meant no other bills were needed afterwards. That sounds great and id say sign me up for that.
My thinking of the way it would really go down I guess is more of the same as usual. Working class people get pounded on taxes to pay medical for those who cant bother getting a job, or are complacent doing as little work as possible just to skate by.
Its sad to say this because I really want a world where everyone has access to the best healthcare, however I am also sick of seeing people that make life choices to not improve themselves but still want what everyone else has at the expense of those that do the right thing. I really am so tired of seeing people get 10k tax returns at the end of every year, when they didn't even pay 5k into taxes. When did taxes become income for some people because they have more write offs then they have income?Meanwhile someone with no kids, and a decent middle class job pays 15k in taxes and gets no returns.
I really think we have to either go ahead with government healthcare, or scrap it though. I'm honestly ok with it either way, but we have to go all in or get out. Obamacare far too gutted by the time it became law. I think if we could set up a fair system and require everyone to pay their fair share, we have a chance at it working. But republicans had stripped so many parts of it out for it to pass through that it never really had a chance.
al- ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:51:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The mandatory health insurance in European countries often costs between 15 and 25 % of the income. European salaries are significantly lower than US both compared directly as well as measured relative to cost of living.
In all likeliness you simply don't have your priorities straight.
karlexceed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:57:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never said I was perfect with my expenses, but that doesn't detract from my point.
I would gladly take home less salary if we had universal healthcare. Catastrophic healthcare situations happen, and in Europe it probably won't bankrupt you like it would here.
If I get hurt, I'd pay out of pocket either way up to $6500. My point was that it doesn't matter at that point whether the bill was $6500 or $650000, either way I'm screwed. I'll lose my assets, my home, my car, and subsequently my job. Homeless. So then what good does health insurance in the current market do me? I'd rather keep the $250 a month to stay (relatively) healthy and happy.
thebbman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:00:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We probably have either the same insurance or something very similar. My out of pocket for my appendectomy was also $5000 or so.
IThinkIThinkThings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree! Shattered my collarbone last January - paid 6k out of pocket, for a 3k emergency room visit, and 12k operation. Decided it was a good year for operations, and had another this past December. Would've cost me 22k.FREE
dorothy_zbornak_esq ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
Stuff like this makes me really sad. We live in literally the richest country in the world, how can we be content to let our citizens suffer from easily treatable medical maladies just because of some bullshit system and politics?
I hope your foot gets better and that you get insurance soon.
runandkickgirl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:21:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, there's a very small percentage of folks with vast wealth, and then there's everyone else. The super-wealthy end up with all the power, and sometimes confuse poverty as laziness/stupidity - hence, no empathy for those who suffer.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I have a good SO who offers foot massages when it acts up and I'm currently looking for a second job that offers health insurance through the company, so maybe soon!
duraiden ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:58:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they can get pretty pissed off.
MythologicalSimian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha - That's probably exactly what that doctor saw.
SwedishBoatlover ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:12:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't understand why some people were/are so against Obama Care, to the point that the Republicans totally ruined it.
I chopped myself in the hand with a very sharp axe a couple of years ago, right in the third knuckle of my indexfinger of my left hand. I completely severed the first interosseous muscle and severely damaged the ligaments and the tendon that straightens the index finger.
All and all it cost me about $150 to fix it, including the pain medication. Healthcare paid by taxes isn't such a bad idea, at least not when you need it. Which is kind of the point I guess. Live as a true society where the weak/poor receives benefits from the strong/rich, or leave everyone fending for themselves.
MythologicalSimian ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obamacare (ACA) in its form now is not perfect...or even great for a lot of people. I was a supporter of it because I do know that even though I don't benefit from it, a lot of other people do.
Single payer is what we really need in this country but we have a lot people with a "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" mentality in this country who have either always had insurance/made enough money to have coverage/simply have not experienced a lot of sickness to the point that they don't really understand (or seem to care to understand) the other side of things.
Unfortunately, a lot of those people are in charge of making the decisions in this country so it leaves the rest of us fending for ourselves.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, which is why I said that there are a lot of Americans that have a "pull yourself up by your bootstrap" mentality. I definitely know that we've elected who we have in charge, and I stress to my friends and family every midterm election that that is when they REALLY need to go vote.
Unfortunately, NC has some issues with gerrymandering so it's not quite just on the citizens here responsible for some of the govt. issues we've faced over the past few years, but overall I agree.
And I agree. I'm not anti-ACA. It's helped a lot of people which is great!
ImNotAWhaleBiologist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for being a good person.
MythologicalSimian ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:55:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, that means a lot. :)
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My super conservative BIL just recently had a colonoscopy. He waited until he turned 50 (a few weeks after he found out he needed one) because if you're over 50 it doesn't cost you anything thanks to the ACA. He was pretty pissed about getting something for free because of the ACA, but he waited and did it anyway.
lnTheRearWithTheGear ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:51:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the net result of Obamacare was that an ER visit, including pain meds, resulted in a $150 bill, I'm sure people would be on board.
However, the reality of Obamacare is that for most of us, our premiums have gone up and the cost of services has as well. And ER visit will cost me $500, and that doesn't include... anything. I got a concussion about a year ago and went to the local clinic. They referred me to the ER and while I was driving over, I called my insurance company. Found out that $500 doesn't really cover anything - I would need to pay for imaging and other stuff I don't remember on top of that, so I just turned around and went home.
SwedishBoatlover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Part of the problem is that since the Republicans had majority in the House of Representatives, they basically slaughtered the ACA. It didn't become what it was supposed to be.
But even the way it was originally written it wouldn't really be like here in Sweden. But we're such different countries with such different values, so how could it be?
lnTheRearWithTheGear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:42:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even within the US, there is a huge amount of variance in core values that causes the huge rift we have here. The New York Times did an excellent piece on the urban vs rural divide that explored why Trump won the "flyover states". It's definitely worth a read if you're interested, and as a moderate who has spent most of his life is rural areas and smaller towns, this really struck a chord. I didn't vote Trump, but I can understand why people did, and why they will continue to vote Republican.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/opinion/why-rural-america-voted-for-trump.html?_r=0&referer=
jihiggs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:01:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what do you mean republicans ruined it
SwedishBoatlover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By being in majority in the House of Representatives, the Republicans was in a position to block the bill, a position they used to basically extort changes to be made to the proposed bill. Then after ACA was passed in its crippled form, the Republicans keep attacking it in court. This is of course a gross oversimplification, bit that's the jist of it.
stranged558 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well part of the problem with healthcare paid by taxes is that the government is never as efficient or as competitive as businesses are. So inevitably it will end up costing people more then it would to insure themselves.
The plus side however would be that it would force people to actually have healthcare. Would it really change our situation though? I really am not sure. See the people that cant afford health insurance now are likely already receiving tax breaks due to low income so they wouldn't pay much to get health care.
The middle class however who mostly would already have health insurance would still be paying a majority of the bill. While the upper class would be paying their share as well. This really doesn't sound much different then it does now.
2_Headed_Cat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My job ended last month and I'm still between insurance plans. Not having insurance scares the shit outta me, especially last week when I thought I might have strep.
The thing I envy about Canadian healthcare isn't that it's "free," it's that you don't have to opt-in, you just always have it, and it doesn't change based on your job situation or what your employer decides to offer. You never have to worry about picking your own plan when you're unemployed or underemployed, you don't have to worry about coverage dates, you can always go to the doctor or hospital and not worry that's gonna cost an arm and a leg because you don't have a job.
MythologicalSimian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry. It really is a scary thing. I remember losing the job I had insurance through (because of medical issues at the time ironically enough) and I remember not knowing what I was going to do. I've been without it for a few years now and it's gotten less scary. You learn to live with a lot of pain/issues and while I'm not proud of it, I have found myself asking famiy and friends if they have left over antibiotics - I know, I know, you're never supposed to have left overs nor is anyone supposed to take prescription meds from anyone - if I'm afraid I'm getting strep or another illness that they cure.
Fingers crossed though, you'll find a job that will offer it or you can sign up for ACA or medicaid in your state. :)
2_Headed_Cat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:20:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thankfully, I can still message my doctor and send her pictures when I'm worried about something, and generic medicines aren't that expensive. But if I have a medical emergency, I'm fucked.
MythologicalSimian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:23:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the reality of living in a "first world" country I guess...right? :|
rituals ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:22:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But right to affordable healthcare = slavery!!!
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Transientmind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or socialism. Which is apparently somehow worse than having the uninsured experience third world health conditions or face bankruptcy. There's something just fucking wrong with America.
LaskaBear ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:23:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, it's a luxury. I got really sick, (severe iron deficit anemia) and only sought treatment when I turned yellow :/ it got so bad that they sent me to a cancer place to make sure I didn't have leukemia*
ActivisionBlizzard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:54:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America is a joke lol
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American here.... until Obama care... ACA. The rule was only go to the doctor when you cant stop the bleeding yourself
Jmc_da_boss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you pay the penalty?
MythologicalSimian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:58:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do. :/
To elaborate - I would like coverage through the ACA but I'm in a sweet spot where I can't afford the monthly premiums that they can offer and my state's previous governor cut access to our medicare/medicaid so I'm not in the poverty range to qualify for that either.
It's ultimately cheaper to pay it all at the end of the year through taxes so that's what I do.
Jmc_da_boss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of the Aca plans are more expensive than the penalty?
MythologicalSimian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me, yes. I live pretty well within my means already (obviously I have internet but I have the cheapest package available with no cable or phone - roughly 30$ a month in my area). I eat cheap, make my meals at home, my rent is below average for the area I'm in, I own my own car that's really old and price check car insurance every year so I can make sure I get the best deal. I have literally not purchased any clothing item for myself from any big box store off the rack in at least 3 years (unless I had a gift card for a birthday or holiday) - everything I purchase is used from thrift stores or handed down from family or friends who are upgrading.
I already live paycheck to paycheck with very little left over at the end of the month and I get paid once per month from my job so I've become a pro at stretching it. The cheapest plan I qualify for is around 137.00 per month and for someone who is usually left with around 50-90 per month before my next paycheck...yeah. They are.
Last year I paid around 600$ in penalties at tax time for not having insurance (after qualifying tax breaks/work related write offs)That's ultimately a lot cheaper for me.
Mezzaomega ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having penalties for not having insurance sounds insane
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah...it kind of feels like it.
Jmc_da_boss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, that major sucks. I thought that aca was supposed to help people just like you
Lifesagame81 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:58:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The medicare expansion was supposed to catch people like him. His state governor decided leaving folks like MythologicalSimian without any coverage was more important than undermining their ideological positions.
Jmc_da_boss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
where does he live?
Lifesagame81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure, but in a prior post he/she said, "to elaborate - I would like coverage through the ACA but I'm in a sweet spot where I can't afford the monthly premiums that they can offer and my state's previous governor cut access to our medicare/medicaid so I'm not in the poverty range to qualify for that either."
MythologicalSimian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, man. Me too.
Jmc_da_boss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does the fact that is will more than likely be repealed make you happy?
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. Obviously I'd like to have the extra money in my pocket at tax time, but if it's repealed then a lot of good friends and family that have it now will be back to square one.
A lot of those people had pre-existing conditions so even if they can afford insurance on their own, they're going to have a hard time finding a company that will take them.
My mom had a job saving surgery to fix her rotator cuff (she does manual labor so it was very needed in order for her to keep working) that she wouldn't have been able to get done had it not been for her ACA covered insurance.
So, it's really going to suck for a lot of people either way. I'd rather pay the penalty each year just to know that thousands or millions of other people will get the care that they need.
makes_the_sandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was under the impression that the ACA was more to help people with preexisting conditions or life threatening conditions who, prior to ACA, couldn't afford insurance. Not relatively healthy Joe blo.
Not sure though, I have mine through my husband's job. That was just what I remember originally thinking.
guto8797 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ACA was also gutted in order to pass the Republican congress. It should've been single payer
iambecomedeath7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are not complaints that people should be having in a first world country.
MythologicalSimian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree!
iambecomedeath7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:16:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got done doing a two year saving spree for a sorely needed new wheelchair. You know, something pretty basic for living that basically any other country gives their people for free. We shouldn't have to do shit like this but insurance companies are just too ingrained in our system. It really makes me angry when I think about it, especially because it won't get fixed as long as we have the government that we have.
MythologicalSimian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am so sorry. My friend who is also without insurance got into a car accident last year and he was calling around asking anyone he knew if they had a relative or simply had a wheelchair they weren't using. When he asked me (even though I know how shitty the US healthcare system is) I was really surprised they hadn't given him one from the hospital. It was like..."okay, you broke your hips and legs...you need to get around...that doesn't come standard??"
Apparently not. :(
terriblymad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you. Went in to the dentist for a cracked cap. Was told I had three other cavities that would probably need root canals. Noped the fuck out because repairing that cap maxed out my insurance. I feel like my mouth is a ticking time bomb now.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, dental work is atrocious to pay for out of pocket. I haven't been to the dentist in years so I feel ya. I'm sure that's really scary though, knowing you need to get that stuff done. I'm sorry, man. :(
oz6702 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should never happen in a country as wealthy and advanced as the US. This is why we need universal health care.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree 100%.
Iplaymeinreallife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See this is why single payer public insurance winds up saving money in the long run.
Jmanorama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:04:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had appendicitis back in May. Woke up in excruciating pain, went to quick care first (cause co pay is only $80 there and $150 at the ER), and they forced me to go to the ER. $32,000 bill for the surgery later, I also had a hernia (that I had guessed but was ignoring) that they fixed. But if I hadn't gotten the appendectomy, the damn thing would've killed me. Now it's just the co pay, that I don't pay when I can get away with it, that are killing me. But if I hadn't had insurance to eat that cost, I don't know that I would've gone. Right now I'm out of work for a herniated disk in my neck, and I'm pretty sure I also have a broken heel, that I'm ignoring.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds miserable. I'm so sorry you're going through that. :(
Jmanorama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh. Life's a pain, pain makes a living.
imghurrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'Murica!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MythologicalSimian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a great thing though! I really wish America didn't have such an outdated view on healthcare. Luckily, where I live there is actually psychiatric and psychology facilities that are local and serve the community on a sliding scale. That's the only way I've been able to get psych treatment I've needed. I'm almost afraid to move because I never know if the city I live in is going to have a similar program.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry. It really does suck when you look at your itemized bill and start seeing "23.00 - acetomenophen" and you're like "cool, at least two hours worth of work for a tylenol."
ehco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddam I don't know how you USAians live like this.
kissmythong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The greatest cause for going bankrupt is due to medical expenses in the USA.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that wholeheartedly. My amount is VERY small compared to a lot of other people I know.
CalamitousCanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Canadian I seriously don't get many Americans feverish approach to socialized health care. You all pay taxes so that infrastructure gets built and government employees get paid. What's another 1 or 2% off of your paycheck to make sure everyone gets to live their life without worrying about going into debt when they have cancer or break a bone. Then again I guess we couldn't have gotten Breaking Bad if you guys had already come around to the idea.
MythologicalSimian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, at least we got Breaking Bad! But seriously, I agree. I'd happily shell out a bit more in taxes just to know that I wouldn't go bankrupt when my angry appendix decides to throw a fit.
WalleyeGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$20,000 in medical debt is BS.
On the flip side, I get to pay over $12,000 in annual insurance premiums for a policy that doesn't kick in until we reach $13,000 out of pocket. So I don't have coverage UNTIL I reach $25,000 in medical costs. Lol.
MythologicalSimian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God that's awful. It's just a flawed system all the way around, really.
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MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a reality for a lot of people. I'm so, so sorry you're having to go through that at such a young age.
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MythologicalSimian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I do die, I'll let you know. ;)
cycling_duder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke my arm earlier this year. Without insurance it would have been $37,000 to get it treated. Unless you are independently wealthy, what are you supposed to do? People who think health care is not a requirement for a stable society worry me.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. Some things shouldn't be negotiable. Healthcare seems like one of those things to me.
CuriousWiccan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke my left foot a year ago coming up next month. Same thing, no insurance so left it to heal. Hasn't bothered me in a month or two. Snowed over the weekend, so today I was walking through alot of hard crunchy ice and when I got home this evening, it was swollen and throbbing again sigh
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, I'm dealing with some snow here too now. About 8 inches overnight as of a couple of days ago with a nice crunchy ice layer underneath. My foot is the worst it's been in months because of this.
Broken foot humans unite. :)
iekiko89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dropped a 100 lb Dumbbell on my foot, no insurance. walked it off for 10 week ish. still no idea how bad I fucked it up.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dropped something on mine as well. I walked it off too and only a couple years later did it start flaring up with pain. I have intermittent pain now, some swelling and it cracks like a bitch when I walk but since it's healed (albeit very badly) it's not too much to deal with.
Good luck with yours and if you ever do get insurance at least try to go and get it imaged. I got mine done during the time I had insurance (Aetna was amazing and paid for not only imaging but for some physical therapy as well) and the doctor just kind of gave me a blank look when he saw the x-ray. He used the word "mangled" a few times and I just said "Well, I didn't have insurance..".
themajesticpark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I feel like I am risking a severe Reddit lashing as I'm not 100% sure of every state, but my understanding of The Affordable Care Act (and my firsthand experience as an unemployed adult who returned to college) is that every state has to either point you in the direction of Insurance scaled to your income or has to have an inbuilt system to help you. For Example, Connecticut has (wait for it)... Connecticare!
Again: I am not certain. However, I strongly suspect that there is insurance you can afford in your state right now, even if you are earning no money. I believe that was one of the things the left went nuts over); social healthcare...
But seriously: before I was able to secure employment that worked around my education my monthly cost was $50, and that was because of the income my wife earned. Had I not been married or had we been a lower income family my cost would have been lower. Please check out your state's version of Obamacare.
And at the risk of overstaying my welcome: please also spend some time over at /r/personalfinance if you're stuck at a low income level. They're not going to point you to mana from heaven, but there is a chance that the folks in that sub can help you get the most mileage out of your money.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!
Yeah, my last state offered something like that. I think it was called Peachcare in GA. But I'm in NC now and I'm not even close to meeting the income requirements for any assistance here. I make between $300-$500 per month more than the "poverty" requirement for this state. It varies because I'm a contracted worker so I get paid per day that I work and if I miss work, I don't make as much. Some months I might qualify, but I'm not consistently falling within that range so I don't even apply as the paperwork involved and approval time needed for someone to look over my income requirements would likely not be met the very next month if I did get all of my days in.
I'm kind of in a unique position because of that, although I do tend to stay above it even if I miss an entire week or so of work.
Also, thank you for the advice. I do like /r/personalfinance and I've perused some of the topics there that tend to match my own without actually making a post. I've cut down on spending in a lot of ways because of that subreddit, which is awesome!
I'm fairly comfortable living within my means now. I don't miss a lot of the luxuries I used to have when I had insurance through my job, like cable, etc. I'm pretty happy with where I'm living and spend a lot of time doing free things to preoccupy my time. I live in a good place for hiking and biking so I do a lot of that.
Thank you though! I appreciate it a lot!
TheTigerbite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a house. I have a new car. I had a lapse in insurance for a year from coming off my parents and getting on my wife's work insurance. Didn't get my own because I hadn't been to the doctor in 8 years.
No joke, the day before my insurance through my wife went into effect I had to be rushed to the hospital. $8000 visit. I paid the $150 copay and that's it. I've been getting monthly letters from collection agency's the past 2 years. I have no intention on paying it.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kind of don't blame you. I mean, I try to pay mine when I can and as much as I can, but I also sometimes get this indignant attitude that I really don't want to pay it. Granted, there is one hospital bill that I have no intention of paying. They aren't working with me on monthly payments at all, and I waited 9 hours for treatment in the ER, nauseous and vomiting profusely the entire time (worried it was my appendix at the time because that was a year after I had been told it was bad) all to leave with a misdiagnosis and literally a single 900 MG tylenol. In my opinion they don't deserve almost $1,600 for that.
TheTigerbite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of the same reasoning why I'm not paying this one. I'm not some dick who expects free stuff. I called the hospital numerous times trying to workout a payment plan and to get the bill lowered and they showed no interest at all.
Also, I have no idea why they were billing me $8000. It ended up being an anxiety attack. (I never had problems with stress, anxiety, or anything like that - I was just driving to work listening to the radio when it hit, I honestly thought I was having a heart attack.)
So, you know...$8000 for some ativan and probably one test, I have no idea what, I don't remember much of anything that happened once I was at the hospital.
ANXIETY ATTACKS ARE NO JOKE! ...especially when you have no idea that's what's going on. Much more manageable after you know wtf is going on.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is horrible. Yeah, everyone I know has told me "they have to work with you. THEY HAVE TO!" but the phone calls that I've made to try to work out a payment arrangement with this particular hospital have gotten me nowhere.
The last time I spoke with a rep there he hung up on me after telling him I was currently paying about $300.00 out of pocket per month for other medical bills (I especially love it when there are multiple bills out of the same hospital/care unit for each individual practitioner or department you were treated by... /s) so there's no way I can afford ~$1,500 all at once, but that I would try to do an additional $50.00 per month to them until it was paid. He literally said, "If you don't pay it all upfront we will report this to your credit."
I sighed and said "do it then" and he hung up. They never called back and now it is on my credit. Oh well. What can you do, I guess?
Also, anxiety attacks are horrible. They really can feel like a heart attack and the first one is always the worst for that very reason. I'm so sorry, man. :(
Nozirap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had insurance and I've broken both hands repeatedly for years (sometimes at the same time). Now, I've lost about 20% of the motion I once had, am constantly in pain and can see how badly they've healed now with all the scar tissue. Oh well.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's horrible. My mom would have been in the same situation with her rotator cuff, in fact she's pretty sure she's torn it again since her surgery. She's trying to get in as quickly as she can to get it fixed a second time in case they do repeal the ACA.
L3T3RSW8T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A Doctor once told me that they will remove a completely healthy appendix just for the experience/training. With just a minor suspicion they'll jump on that. He might not wanted to do that per se, but rather that he was indoctrinated with the idea in his training to remove the appendix even with a minor suspicion.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's shitty. :/ Although maybe it means I have nothing to worry about, at least!
Greatfuckingscott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but open means it's an exposed fracture. Like your arm bone out of the skin. It's not going to get better, only infection and malunion.
MythologicalSimian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds awful then. I still understand it if you're worried about the bill to be honest, but that definitely sounds like something where I would have bit the bullet and taken the cost.
just4Subs4Reddit ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 23:12:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans (*and other countries that do not have nation-wide health coverage) have a strange relationship with healthcare.
I've heard a few people say "Why should I pay for someone else's healthcare? I look after myself."
Then they use their group coverage to pay some bills... sometimes they even get the low deductible plan that's heavily subsidized by their employer. I don't think they know how insurance underwriting works.
Kayestofkays ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:03:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get this either...You pay for someone else's health care because when you need it, they help you pay for yours.
Jupiterswrath ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:00:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They usually then think" I'll get to that when I have to, no sense in me paying taxes now to help that guy with a heart problems so he can help me later". It's a real, fuck you, I'll get/got mine problem.
Kizka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a problem of the american culture of....hyper-individualism if you will. Communism is one extreme but the US is just as extreme, just on the other end. Individualism is good, don't get me wrong. It is good to acknowledge the worth of an individual, not to think only in masses, because in masses people become just numbers. But there is a middle way and the US haven't found it yet.
In my personal opinion, such concentration on the individual can also lead to mental health issues. It is really just my theory and I have no proof of that but I think there could be a relationship between this hyper-individualism and the high number of people shooting up places. If one is brought up in a culture that teaches you that everyone has to look for themselves, that there is basically no structure to rely on, I think that can make one feel very lonely and isolated.
Because the US are a cultural melting pot there is no naturally developed bond between the people. Thus the need for extreme patriotism because there is no natural glue that holds the people together.
Helping other people is seen as charity rather than a duty of everyone in the community (the community being be country).
Anyway, just my two cents.
psychicsword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that is just called insurance.
classy_barbarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but expecting someone else to help you would make you a freeloader
Michaelbama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the issue, a lot of the people complaining about paying for other people's, don't need anyone to help them.
JonSnowsGhost ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:07:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Voluntarily.
Most people who are against nationalized, single payer health care aren't against it because they disagree with the idea of health insurance; they're against it because it's more power and money in the hands of the government (which is not exactly known for using either of those things in desirable ways) and the freedom of choice is taken away from you.
In addition to that, you're forced to pay for things you may not support (non-medically necessary abortions, for example).
psychicsword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically Canada doesn't have nationwide coverage either. Everything is per province.
thepeoplesdouche ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 22:55:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and we still bitch about parking bills at hospitals here
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:19:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's an unfair tax on the sick. I get that. Pretty substancial bill after a month
neccoguy21 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 23:30:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ALL YOU PAY FOR IS PARKING!!! BE THANKFUL FOR THAT!!! "Unfair tax"... I couldnt shake my head any harder if I tried. I would try, but I don't have insurance.
hrehbfthbrweer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:49:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The NHS is already paid for out of taxes. It's not like it's free.
the-nub ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because America's healthcare system is so righteously fucked, doesn't make everything else perfect by comparison.
Being charged to be sick sucks ass, full-stop. Certainly there are degrees of suck-ass, but it all falls under the same category.
neccoguy21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I know is if all I had to pay for was parking, I'd be saying "thank God I only had to pay for parking". I wouldn't bitch about it.
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah that is because you live under a screwed up system. Here we already pay for healthcare but now we also have to pay for parking, which is a pain in the arse.
the-nub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm sure you never complain about being hungry or thirsty, either. Or about being stuck in traffic. Or about your house, your financial situation, your group of friends, job, relationship, clothes, etc. etc.
Because you know, other people have it worse. You shouldn't complain about what you have.
neccoguy21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not really... As soon as I start to I realize that yes, many people do have it way worse than I do in just about every aspect of my life. So complaining about it doesn't do anyone any good. And it makes me look like a jackass.
the-nub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you honestly expect me to believe that you never complain? My gosh, you're just the most perfect and humble person ever. I hope we can all one day aspire to be as pure and true as you.
neccoguy21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever heard the term "happy-go-lucky"? When I first heard it as a kid I asked my mom what it meant. When she told me I aspired to be just that. It's worked out pretty well for me. Maybe you should give it a shot?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a grip caps lock. FYI I've never had to pay because I've never been sick. If I ever did I have more than enough money to pay for it. I'm more concerned for other people who can't afford it but have to pay. I hope you can use your massive imagination and gigantic stores of empathy to figure out whom I'm concerned about.
neccoguy21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:32:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humblebrag
Wow humblebrag
Yeah, that would be me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humble brag about never being sick? Try harder.
neccoguy21 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Try harder? I don't... know....
HUMBLEBRAG!!
Sorry the material you gave me to work with wasn't the best definition of a humblebrag... I certainly wouldn't put it in the dictionary next to it. But there's no reason to say something like that other than to brag about it.
mikeash ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 23:16:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trouble is that half of our voting population is convinced that your story could never have happened, because socialized medicine is horrible, leads to drastic shortages, and the
victimscitizens who live in such places have to wait months or years for the simplest medical procedures. They may be bankrupted by appendicitis, but they still think they're better off.ashesarise ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:38:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its not as simple as that. The nature of our medical system does provide a marginally better service for those who can afford it. There is more incentive for doctors to succeed in privatized medicine.
I just don't personally think that slightly better medical quality justifies telling a whole bunch of people to go fuck themselves.
mikeash ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:40:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but much of the opposition to socialized medicine isn't based on such careful analysis. A frightening number of people think that our Canadian friend up there would have been told to come back in six months for his emergency appendectomy.
miles_allan ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:08:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a Canadian living in the U.S. whose life was saved by Canada's healthcare system as a child. If I had a dollar for every idiot who's lectured me about Socialized medical care, I could afford my ACA premiums.
Awkward_Rogue ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. When I had to have my appendix out a little under a decade ago, I left the house at 9pm or so and still had it out before the end of the night. Even when long wait times in the emergency room were a pretty common joke in my hometown.
throwaway11272016 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:01:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My opposition comes from the fact that I don't want to be forced onto a government system. I don't mind paying for people to have it, but let me keep my private care. I want to pay to see a specialist tomorrow, not in 6 weeks after a referral.
I constantly say this is my issue, and it always gets ignored. Why? I feel like my stance on this is 100% reasonable.
mikeash ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps you're getting ignored because many (most? all?) socialized systems allow people to pay for private care if they wish, and there's no reason our system couldn't include this feature as well, so it's not really a well-founded objection.
throwaway11272016 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:13:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one has told me that. I'm totally down with a public system if I can keep my private care.
mikeash ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool! I totally agree that should remain an option, and there's no reason it can't. Unfortunately, it sometimes seems like there's more misinformation than information out there about how other countries' systems work.
throwaway11272016 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If anyone replies, it's usually some platitude about how no one deserves better care just because they can pay more. I see it like this: if you're getting free care and you aren't dying and all is well, don't worry about the rich guy who can pay and see a specialist tomorrow.
mikeash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess not knowing how other countries actually do things goes both ways here.
throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go both ways you sexy beast
mikeash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my.
Zinouweel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:41:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, does the ACA prohibit private care? Here in Germany there's both. I've always been on private insurance and I must've cost a fortune to the gov! I'm not yet 20 and I've had 4 operations done, maybe it was even more than that. I wonder how costly that was. All the gear to rehabiliitate is expensive as hell already. Like 1000โฌ for crutches and leg braces expensive.
throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how your system works but I've always heard it's better than the NHS and Canadian systems. You people are great at everything; medicine, cars, genocide, you name it.
Zinouweel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:53 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it seems pretty great, but you often hear about social divide making a huge difference in education. I never noticed it myself, but of 28 students in our class in Gymnaium 6-8 had parents without higher education.
I wouldn't blame the government for it though, that's probably due to the parents/environment.
Gymnasium is a type if school. After elementary you go to Haupt, Real or Gymnasium (worst, in between, best). I finished Gymnasium and am thus eligible to study. Due to my indicisiveness I didn't apply for any university.
Fucking awful mistake. If I went to any university which wouldn't be difficult, the gov would give me huge sums of money that I can repay in a span of 35 years. Instead I applied to simple jobs without success and get no money. Fuck man, if I knew earlier how that'd turn out... I could get paid for studying. Now I'm making debt not studying.
Smangler ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:35:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your complaint is definitely valid but I think that's a trade off most of us are willing to make. I'm happy to wait for a while being uncomfortable but I'm not going to die. A few years ago I went to the ER with a very serous asthma attack (77% blood oxygen). The nurse took one look at me and I was rushed in. A few months later I broke my ankle and had to wait for 7 hours before it could even get plastered. I was miserable and in pain (9 screws and 2 plates) but I wasn't going to die.
The asthma attack was 4 days in ACU with around the clock monitoring. The ankle was a day in the ER, surgery, several follow ups. In that year I spent $125 for the crutches and I think $75 on meds. Even the boot was free.
Sure it sucks having to wait to see a specialist - our system isn't perfect. After my 2nd asthma attack (before the big one mentioned above) I was referred to a respirologist and saw him within a couple weeks. So it doesn't always take forever to see one.
I've got a friend who was injured on the job. He got fired after he got hurt because he couldn't work. He's fighting for compensation, but he sees a physiotherapist regularly because he doesn't have to pay out of pocket. I've had to buy him groceries, but his shoulder is fine.
My sister was born with cerebral palsy. Mild case - she's not in a wheelchair or anything. She had 9 surgeries before she was 10. She probably wouldn't be able to walk today if it weren't for our health care. There's no way our parents could have afforded them, let alone the decade or more of physio.
So yeah, I'm willing to wait an extra couple of weeks if necessary to see a specialist. Those stories make the news because they're, well, newsworthy. They're certainly not the norm. Shit happens, but nobody goes bankrupt by getting sick.
throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why can't I just pay to see a specialist sooner? I don't want to sacrifice my current level of care.
Smangler ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because if people who can afford to merely pay to bump themselves up the list, those who can't are forced to wait even longer, regardless of the severity of their condition.
That's how it's fair - the people who objectively need it most go first. That's the thing about fairness - when it works it never seems fair to those involved.
throwaway11272016 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:23:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then I'll continue to vote Republican
Smangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you said no one ever responded to your question, so I did. I believe it's reasonable to care for and have empathy for other people, even if it costs me by doing so. I understand, by your response, that you disagree. That's cool, and you go ahead and pursue your own individual self interest. I'll stay up here and help to ensure that everyone in my country has access to quality care.
throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way I see it is with single payer, people do have access to quality care. And if I can pay a bit more to get private care that's faster in non-life threatening situations, then so be it.
Smangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your ability to bypass the line is exactly what is negated in a single payer system. Saying you're OK with a single payer system while being able to bypass it completely negates a single payer system. It doesn't work that way.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except france and germany have public and private insurance and have the best systems in the world.
Agruk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you also against organ transplant lists? Do you believe that people should be allowed to pay in order to get bumped to the top of the list?
wrxygirl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still can, so it's not an issue. There are still private doctors here, so if you don't feel like waiting for whatever procedure you can pay to get in somewhere else.
throwaway11272016 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beautiful. That's all I ever wanted.
dryj ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gets ignored because it's not based on any research, and it's a reminder that people vote without knowing the details. Depending on the system you can pay for separate private insurance or for addon care. The point is getting people with nothing enough that they don't die.
throwaway11272016 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 03:32:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and if someone told me that, I'd be better off. I'm too busy to be doing research.
dryj ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe that. If you google this question, you get this:
http://i.imgur.com/Sug6AyC.png
It brings up an info card and shows you a result with all the information. Read about a page of info and you see that your plan has to comply with the ACA. You don't have time to read one page?
throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't deal with the ACA my employer pays my premiums
dryj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your employer must comply with the ACA. Not sure what your point is here
throwaway11272016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, so they take care of it. They pay my entire premium, I literally don't care as long as I can keep seeing my doctors.
as_a_fake ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:12:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I (Canadian as well) learned recently.
Over the summer of 2016 I was diagnosed with a condition that I'm still trying to treat. Before I finally found out what it was I went to the hospital 3 times (once in an ambulance), my GP 4 times, and a specialist twice. The only bills I paid were $50 for the ambulance and parking.
I looked it up part-way through all of this and found out that if I were in the US I would likely be tens of thousands of dollars in debt, possible over $100,000. I honestly can't imagine having that kind of debt over me at any point.
Ramorous ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:32:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my son was born 13 weeks premature. Was told his care averaged 200k/week. So glad I live in Canada. Not sure what would have happened for him elsewhere.
Leprechorn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:48:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well to be honest, here in the US it would probably be mostly paid for, as most people do have insurance. The issue is that said insurance costs $200+ per month, plus $30 to see a doctor, $30 to get a prescription filled, $5000 deductible (largely for major expenses excluding regular visits, but it would likely apply in this situation).
So really it's just that we get to spend 20+ % of our income on health insurance.
That said, medical expenses are the #1 cause of bankruptcy here.
Rotanev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well the money has to come from somewhere, so if it becomes a federally provided service ("for free"), it's just going to come from your taxes instead.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a proponent of more accessible healthcare, but it's a little misleading to claim that it can magically appear for free. You can make cuts to doctors' pay, disproportionately tax wealthy people, etc., but at the end of the day it is still expensive.
stranged558 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well this is part of the problem with the debate. There are a lot of people in the US that don't look at it this way and just say it should be free. The money to pay for the service has to come from somewhere.
Medical really does make me wonder in the US. There is really no right way to do it. I mean its not like people die here because they cant afford something and don't have insurance. They are taken care of its just it may bankrupt them with no insurance if it is a major procedure.
On the flip side there are many people that say that they cant afford insurance even though they could if they wanted to but don't want to interfere with their lifestyle to pay for said insurance. They will say "Ill just gamble, I'm young I should be fine" or some other equivalent to that. However its really not a gamble as the worst that can happen is that owe money, no hospital is going to turn them away or leave them dying in the parking lot because they don't have insurance. So there really is no incentive to change the way you live to be able to afford health insurance.
I know a decent amount of people that make 40k ish that are single that claim they cant afford $70 pre tax a week for health care but don't bat an eye at a 30k+ vehicle that costs 350+ a month.
monogramchecklist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had my son this year and reading threads on how much American moms have to pay to give birth to their child is crazy! That and the no paid leave is shitty. I feel for them.
iSWINE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:19:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading that someone got charged 10grand for a single ambulance ride to a hospital merely 15mins away
chassics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to me. Granted, I was badly injured, but nothing life threatening. Also, just to increase the FUN STORY quotient, ambulance rides are excluded in a many health insurance plans. Wheeee!
Xenu2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to look hard for those kind of stories. Anytime an ambulance ride is involved at all, the bill will be 4 figures just for the trip to the hospital. If there is any care beyond strapping you to the gurney, then you can hit 5 figures pretty quickly.
sapientflora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's not just a ride. They have to keep you alive in there.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:03:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sapientflora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've mocked me, but haven't raised a convincing argument. Besides, the original comment was vague. His condition could have been anything. A missing leg is much harder to keep stable then someone recovering from a seizure and is subsequently more expensive.
t-dar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:38:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's only like $3500 for the ride.
Leprechorn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Average is about $500 where I am. And ambulance drivers will do anything to get you in there, and if you don't refuse their service, you're stuck with the bill, whether you were conscious or not.
t-dar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$500 billed to your insurance or is that what you pay?
Colin_Whitepaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:16:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ambulance rides are often not covered by insurance.
Leprechorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As the other guy said, I'll confirm: ambulance rides are rarely covered by insurance.
I got in a wreck in 2007 (drunk driver ran a red light going 50 in a 35 and hit me) and three ambulances came. They asked me if I was alright, and I told them I was "a bit woozy". Then they strapped me into a stretcher (though I didn't want it) and carried me to the hospital. The hospital kept me overnight citing a possible concussion (though they didn't actually do any tests). The hospital bill was partially paid for, but the ambulance was not.
LittleSadEyes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:17:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who needs hospitals when you have a broken toe, whiskey, and a popsicle stick to bite?
alanmagid ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:08:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Under Trumpcare, you need to save the money in your health savings account before they cut it out.
Rotanev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of Americans have HSAs; it's nothing new and it works great for certain groups of people. It's not a good solution to generally make healthcare affordable for everyone, but you're being a little silly by implying HSAs are dumb. They can be a great option for healthy people with the income to fill it. Again...doesn't do anything to help poor people or the average working-class person, but it does have a purpose.
jdrc07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah ha. Parking, that's where they getcha.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:41:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but....Canada is cold. And you have Tim Hortons instead of Krispy Kremes. Also-Mooses. Advantage? AMERICA!!!!!(cough cough...oh God...why is there blood again???)
lolsup1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Canada.. With socialized medicine?
FireLucid ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:14:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia too. Best thing ever. My heart was in some bad rhythm. Went to see my GP. Got referred to a cardiologist and went through a whole bunch of appointments, tests, and two separate days in hospital for imaging and then resetting and follow up appointments. Had to pay half of the initial GP visit.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:46:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Australia had us pretty well covered until I went to NZ.
I injured myself pretty seriously, hospital visits, physio, morphine, etc. At one point a nurse came in and was incredibly apologetic because while I was on heavy painkillers, the doctor had also said that I should have some weaker ones available for when I didn't need the heavy stuff and so she was going to bring me a hundred paracetamol tablets, but they weren't on the prescribed drug list or something so I would have to pay for them. I think she expected me to freak out and start throwing things, she looked so concerned that I was going to have an out of pocket expense. They cost $3.
FireLucid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The services when you have a kid are amazing. We had nurses visit out house every 2 or 3 days for about two weeks after we returned home. There were no big complications, just part of the system. Much better than when we paid for a private hospital with the first kiddo.
lolsup1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even so.. I'm only saying this because I have like $200 to my name.
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright Mr.Moneybags, rub it in.
DaughterEarth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super evil, I know.
Azara1th ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're not rich, you don't deserve to have good healthcare.
-Trump/Republicans
visforslagathor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an American this sounds made up. No way a country could treat it's citizens so well. Get an extra check up for me, bud :(
thebbman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had mine out this time last year. I still owe about $5000 USD.
omaharock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke my foot a couple months ago and I have over $2000 in debt. At the hospital they told me they're going to use a separate company for the crutches, I haven't been able to pay the bill since it happened, (about two months ago) and they then randomly added a 40% interest charge... Now the bill is over $200 for fucking crutches, and insurance won't touch it.
loverofaltmedicine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how much was the parking though?
tanketom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check Ben Shapiros tweets and cry in fear.
NNJAxKira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That guys a total asshat
rderekp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It comes from these two compatible feelings that are common in America.
1) Government is bad and expensive and makes your life worse when it interferes.
2) Poor people are bad. If they were good people, they would not be poor.
sararasararasararas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, as a Canadian I have fucked up jaw/teeth alignment and can't afford the $16k it'd take to fix it.
Skithiryx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take it that means it's considered dental and not medically necessary?
That is something I think Canada could improve. Pharmacy and dental care should be part of our universal healthcare, but it's not.
Voidg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The parking bill is silly here in Canada. Our casinos are free to park at but not the hospitals which at my work costs 15 dollars for a day pass.
Torvaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last year, I had appendicitis. The doctors were very understanding of my financial situation, and were willing to do a blood panel to check for signs of infection first so that I wouldn't necessarily have to pay for a more immediately conclusive imaging. If the blood panel hadn't come back with a clearly elevated white count that combined with my other symptoms for an obvious appendicitis diagnosis, I probably would have taken the option of going home and hoping it went away. It's only because of horror stories about untreated appendicitis relatively quickly going from pain to killing people that I went in.
rowdy_antlers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gah! I wish!
I was temporarily without health insurance between jobs last October and also had unexpected appendicitis. I now have more medical bills than I do student loans from my undergraduate degree. It stinks but I'm happy to be alive.
adamissarcastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical storied from the US are always horrifying to me. Worst thing to be said about my healthcare system is the high demand/long wait for non-urgent treatment.
smugliberaltears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just another failing of american liberalism. we may as well be a third world country.
sijsk89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be frank, I've barely gone a few months without health insurance since I was 18 because I've always had a job that offered it and have always taken the opportunity, but there are probably a lot of little problems I have that I have not addressed because I have about a 50/50 shot of getting a shit head doctor. It's just bad luck and it has put me off seeing doctors for little aches and pains. Like I've had a pain in the balls of my feet (hurhur) for over a year, went to a podiatrist and he had me try some pills then some stretches, then got x-rays done to find that I have bone spurs in both heels, although that's not where the pain is located at all, he chocked it up to that and pretty much said to stick to stretches. Now I have a foot brace I don't need, some random 300 dollar bill, time wasted and no relief to the pain. Dude was a prick and rushed through every appointment. Not to mention doctors aren't open on weekends and that's my only days off, taking off in the week is a pain because it requires rescheduling a bunch of shit for work. Just started getting insurance for a new job with more flexible hours so maybe it'll make getting a doctor visit easier.
Sorry for the blog post.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here here. Reading threads like this blows my mind.
My brother in law has brain cancer. He has had two brain surgeries, a round of chemo, dozens of CAT scans and other testing, follow up appointments, etc.
What the hell would he do if he had to pay for it? He has racked up easily a million dollars in medical care.
mountainsprouts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with me, pancreatitis a year ago. In the hospital for a week, paid only for parking.
CmdOptEsc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still pissed about how much they charge for parking though
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have private insurance and can't afford my deductible. Undocumented immigrants, however, get state-subsidized healthcare, which inadvertantly makes mine more expensive. Fuck citizens, this is America. We care about other people more than our actual citizens, here.
Itsthelongterm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My family pays $10k a year for health costs....that's just insurance! We still have out of pocket costs. I am self-employed, wife will be looking for a new job soon.
WhiteDiabla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm currently waiting to save the money to pay for a mammogram to find out if the lumps in my breast are cancer. Also an ultrasound to make sure it's not blood clots that are making my legs go numb. I'm 26 and I have insurance. Land of the free.
JunahCg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a human being it's a fucked up thought.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American here. I cut my hand when I didn't have insurance and it was $4,000 to get stitched up in the ER.
iamlowsound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Canadian, the United States health care system makes me physically angry when I think about it.
kalabash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Speaker of the House Paul Ryan said that with a single payer system that doctors will be literal slaves, so you know, maybe we don't want our doctors in manacles like yours are, OK?!? Gosh. Have some cultural sensitivity.
McNabFish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
British here and suffered severe complications of ulcerative colitis out of nowhere, leading to an emergency sub total colectomy back in November 2015.
I shudder to think the medical bills I'd have incurred without the NHS. Being off work for three months was bad enough financially.
scolfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure a lot of thoroughly insured Americans still avoid medical care so as not to take up time physicians could be using on someone else or piss away the insurer's money (taxpayer money in Canada). Also, care still means time, a problem for hourly workers.
LazyIntern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke my hand when I was 20. I had insurance but the deductible was too high and I would've had to pay for everything out of pocket. Instead of going to the doctor I just let it heal naturally. Still hurts if I hit it at a bad angle.
BrownChicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice, I'm in the US and haven't been to the doctor in probably 5-10 years, and that was just for a physical/check up that my mom set up. It would be awesome to get to go and not worry about money. I don't know what it would take right now for me to go, but I would have to be pretty fucked up
Forest-G-Nome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same thing happen, but I received over 15 bills totaling $57,000. One I distinctly remember was $1200 for a woman who I saw all of 20 seconds who delivered me 3 $600 tylenol pills. They didn't even ask, she just brought them in to me while I was still doped the fuck up post surgery, and said "take these" to me.
Fuck the united states. Worst part was, it was literally the day before the ACA would have forced my parent's insurance to cover me.
blacksheepv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Invade the U.S., please
Bruniverse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh sure, you found parking. You had to brag.
Serfalon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 years ago I faceplanted with my Scooter and had some Broken Bones, and stuff.. The only thing I had to pay for was the Tax for the Ambulance Ride aswell as parking. which came up to be around 20 Euros.
derpman86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For now I am happy with the Australian Healthcare System (which some politicians are trying to push towards the american system yuck!!!)
Last year I had a cyst which turned out being 2 cysts in my neck which had been there fro 6 years but finally started to stink and it was large so it turned out I needed surgery after the rebates I think I was out of pocket maybe under $200 and this was including the initial consult with my G.P, getting an ultrasound, follow up appointment, appointment with the surgeon, the actual surgery which meant I needed to be knocked out during and follow up appointment and removal of stitches after a few weeks.
If I was in America I can't even comprehend how much that would have set me back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Health is for the rich in the US.
MontazumasRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$0 for surgery, $88,000 for the parking, right?
dot-pixis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw yeah! America #1!
It's only going to get worse :X
Somethingshinny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really wish this was the case here in the US. I have put off so many things because of the bill. I even have insurance but it doesn't cover everything. I'm still paying off bills from when my son was in the hospital.
Jdrawer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Take that Canada! The US has FREE parking!
datchilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You pay essentially the same as in America, but instead of it being a choice you have to do it through taxes.
As well, if you live in a more rural province have fun getting a plastic surgeon to fix the scar left from a tumor in the face that had to be removed. My grandma was waiting for around a year, trying to get the right signatures and oks by doctors so she could go to a plastic surgeon that would keep her looking the way she did before the tumor was found.
Just saying, shit is complicated. Only on Reddit do people paint healthcare in such a binary way.
OnlyRacistOnReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a good friend who had her knee bone on bone for more than three years before she was allowed surgery in Calgary.
uhuhshesaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But for real, I moved to France from the USA for work and went to the doctor for terrible neck pain that I'd been having for a few weeks. I would have gone in the USA but leaving my job there had left me insurance-less. So I just dealt with the pain and figured I'd pulled a muscle.
Turns out I had a hemorrhaged disc in my neck.
It was treated with some great physiotherapy and I was given preventative exercises to do forever. But shit works and it causes me little to no pain. My friend in the USA who had the same condition? Heavily addicted to opioids now as physio wasn't properly covered by her insurance plan.
So yeah, the USA healthcare system can suck a bag of dusty balls.
kvlxm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Truth, id honestly hate to be American, having to pay for my well being and I wouldn't be comfortable with pretty much anyone being able to own a gun, as somebody who's never been to America that's so fucked up to me.
eeyore134 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still bad even with Obamacare. I don't have the best job, kind of in between them while looking but still working reduced hours. It would cost me over half of what I take home a month to get insurance and I'd still have something ridiculous like a $7500 deductible. It really is a luxury to have health insurance in the US.
delleyshuvall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Canadian as well and i totally agree. My grandpa had to get emergency open heart surgery in November out of nowhere. He had to pay for his medications for his recovery and that was it.
Kill_Butt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite part is when you realize that the Senate just voted to repeal Obamacare.
GWS2004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people in the US talk about universal health care the same thing gets repeated "well do to want to wait six months to get the surgery you need like they do in Canada?" Americans are dumb, they just keep shooting themselves in the feet.
VincentGrayson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had that happen with my oldest daughter. Only reason we weren't out $30k that we didn't have? Obamacare.
Good thing that mistake is being fixed, right?
sillypwilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kind of upset about this comment. It really fucking sucks that I can't afford insurance...
cucufag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If government healthcare became a thing in america, the first year would be horrible for everyone. The queue would back up to months and months... Maybe even years for some nonurgent issues. And opponents of this care would use it as an example of why we should reppeal it.
Source: am one of those many Americans with various health issues that won't see a doctor about it because of the cost. I imagine a ton of people are actually making their situations worse by just sitting on whatever ails them because they can't afford treatment.
Usurer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our system is nothing to brag about. I know it varies by province (it shouldn't) but in BC in my perspective if it's not an emergency it's all pretty shit:
We need an overhaul. Either a proper national health service or we need to just properly privatize the whole thing and require everyone be insured (see: Germany).
PaulaTejas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son had foot surgery last year, here in the US. The bill was $190,000. My health insurance paid $78,000, I had to pay $6000, and the rest was "written" off. If I had no insurance, I would have had to have $190K up front in order to do the surgery. A 3 hour surgery on a foot, that kept him from being lame.
It's an entirely crazy and messed up system. Unrestrained capitalism, with lives hanging in the balance.
ademnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US the health and life of the citizen is in the citizen's hands because their tax dollars are spent instead on billionaires. And apparently they like it that way.
simonsb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife had this happen out of nowhere. She was on the cheapest ($400 a god damn month) Obamacare plan the hospital tried sticking her with 29k in bills. Bunch of fucking bullshit. I am insanely jealous of your healthcare system.
Knot_My_Name ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its so common here, I'm a fairly young female and haven't had menstrual cycle in about 7 years, something that very well could mean cancer especially the same cancer my grandmother actually died from (ovarian) when I've had to go to the ER for various things the doctors always ask me why I haven't seen anyone about it and when I tell them its because I don't have insurance they completely understand and brush it off like its just normal to be sick for so long. They're just like "Oh okay, onto the next thing then"
skootch_ginalola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broke my leg a year or so ago and had no insurance at the time. Paying back a $7,000 bill. 'MURIKA.
Lochtide7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be fooled, your parent's pay tons of tax money to the province's health care system and you will for your entire life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, the parking is astronomical though for real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We found out recently via my mother's new doctor that her previous doc had diagnosed her with severe osteoporosis 4 years ago.. and never told her and thus, never treated her. She now has 7 fractures in her back, five of which are too healed (incorrectly, weren't found in time) to ever be corrected, and she goes in for kyphoplasty on Wednesday for the other two. There is a daily shot called Forteo that she can take that will immediately begin building up the bone so these fractures stop.. but the cost is $1100 a month, and neither Medicare (the "old people" insurance everyone eventually gets in the US) nor their secondary insurance will cover it. We decided yesterday, after struggling for months about how to pay for this, that we're just going to have to bite the bullet and do it and hope it works out.
And before anyone mentions it, no, there's nothing we can legally do to the doctor who failed to tell her. Said doctor has a history of terrible misdiagnoses in my family [I bailed on him years ago, parents wouldn't until mom almost died], but almost none of it is documented. There is no doubt he's done this to others, but he was a prominent local physician and we suspect he buried most of his mistakes.
LockedDoor_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broke my arm and was only charged a few bucks for the splint. $20 or something. Canada rocks
Ethost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to America. Where life is a fundamental right, but universal healthcare isn't.
Vengrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Five or so years ago, I had to have my gall bladder taken out. I've worked some job or another my whole life, even had various jobs as a kid. From age 18 to now, I've always had a job that offered health insurance EXCEPT for one 9 month period where I was laid off. Guess when my gall bladder decided to go kaput? Yep, $30,000 dollars later and I'm still paying on it.
To be fair, it was not routine. I had to have a stent inserted and then removed to get proper healing. Luckily the state picked up the tab on the 3 separate hospital visits but I was still on the hook for the anestheologist, the surgeon and the gastroenterologist that put in/removed the stent and numerous other smaller costs. All in, I think I still had to pay about 8k+ of that whole ordeal.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At what point is a treatment necessary then? Who is willing to draw those lines? Are you happy leaving that up to a bureaucrat?
Reconstruction? How bad would it have to be?
Scarring?
Lasik surgery?
Knee implants/replacement? What if one option is titanium and technically higher performing but costs more?
There are documentaries on hospitals that have better versions of some surgeries with reduced recovery times. How does the market choose better healthcare if the costs are removed from the consumer? Who is incentivized to develop better treatments?
Socialist medicine benefits from the existence of capitalist medical economies through the rest of the world.
mysticmusti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fucked up thought for literally everyone, even African tribes using herbal remedies have a better health care system because at the very least they won't be suffering in debt for 35 more years regardless of success rate.
Matt872000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke my collarbone pretty nastily and the doctor said if I did not have surgery I would lose 40-80% of the mobility in my shoulder.
I of course took the surgery, being a Canadian and living in Canada at the time, and the only bill I got was the 10$ for the X-Ray CD as a souvenir...
snuff3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aussie here, my hospital parking has always been free =)
KittyCatClaws0000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who thinks they shouldn't have need to pay for parking at medical place?
TheTartanDervish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you know your way around the American system then there are options. Unfortunately, you have to know where and how to push for the free treatment, and some people just never learnt any research skills or never stick up for themselves or they feel ashamed of help... so if you wait til your jaw's broken wide open, you're likely to head for the ER.
Hopefully some kind soul at the finance office got her waivered - any hospital that takes tax money has to do some pro bono - or a charity covered her bill, since most Catholic hospitals will write off bills for patients - the Red Cross helps too.
I'm Canadian originally, you're lucky you had a good run with your treatment. The 90s were a very bad time and it's worse now outside Toronto.
BlacknOrangeZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh here we fucken go again. Can we have one medical thread without some socialised healthcare retard with their head up their taxpayer-funded arse parroting mindless rhetoric about "healthcare is a human right"!?
And I'm an Aussie who has socialised healthcare yet understands the very valid argument against it. You really should try that.
Wildelocke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And in Canada that's actually controversial.
TitaniumDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Health care is expensive. People don't want to pay for it. Shit ain't free.
Bekenel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To most Britons it's a fucked up thought too, but our shit eating Tories seem intent on throwing that notion out along with the concept of 'empathy'.
BipedSnowman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to see my family doctor about anti depressants. I got a prescription without paying a cent. Copay for a month and a half of drugs was $15.
Beanzii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aussie here, I also don't understand this.
BoozeMeUpScotty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke my tailbone in multiple places when I was younger and my fam opted out of having it treated because they knew that a) it'd cost too much to fix and b) if they managed to pay for it but there was a complication, then they'd have to pay even more and that wasn't possible. So now I have a severely deformed lower back that needs a spinal fusion to improve support, and more importantly need my entire tailbone removed and replaced (with something?) because it's basically a little alligator mouth pinching my intestines and uterus in its little gator jaws, and causing paralysis in my lower body and abdominal organs. Basically, I have to sign up to have part of my spine pulled out if I ever want babies, so I get to decide if I think I'll be able to a) afford the surgery at all, b) be able to even afford a kid after the surgery, or c) eventually have even more expensive issues if I choose to forgo the surgery and hope my lower spine stops trying to hatch itself out of my butt crack. America is just so fun.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They choose not to buy insurance.
Whoosk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It really sucks man. The last time I went to the doctor was about 10 years ago when I was 17. I have had a few close calls over the years where looking back I probably should have gone to the hospital for certain things but when your broke, uninsured, and an ambulance ride alone is around $1000 professional medical treatment is avoided at all costs. I'm 27 now and try to take care of myself but getting seriously sick or injured is a constant worry because I know I would not be able to pay for treatment.
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about you but I would have complained about that (in the car not to anyone), "ยฃ2.50 for parking? What a bloody rip off".
bubblebuddy44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom paid upwards of $1000.
JediMasterJedi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:32:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You also have about 10% of our population and more high-paying jobs available (edit: in comparison to how many people live there).
Look, I get that universal health care is nice, and I would love to have it, but there's a reason we haven't had it and why so many people are against it -- and the reason being it just costs a lot of money to insure that many people and especially that many people living under the poverty line.
Also, if you have appendicitis in the States, you will get treatment and quickly. A better example would be a mores specialized treatment like a kidney transplant. Long lines for that and lots of red tape to cut through with insurance/hospitals/etc.
hrehbfthbrweer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's 20%, and the USA has a much higher GDP anyway, so your argument holds no water.
One may be opposed to national healthcare for other reasons, but to propose that the UK can afford it when the USA can't is just wrong
JediMasterJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GDP per person in U.S.: $53,000
Canada: $52,000
Larger population means our "much higher" GDP gets spread thinner.
And yes, America can afford it, but a lot of Americans don't want to because they don't like being taxed.
The average Canadian family loses 42% of income to taxes.
Americans are paying 27% per family.
And it's even higher in places like California where they're paying almost 40% of their income to taxes, and California is already one of the most expensive place to live on the planet.
Americans don't want to pay more taxes. That's why America elected a rich guy who doesn't like to pay taxes too.
As I said in another comment, the system is broken and we need reform because what we have now sucks. It needs to be either single-payer or back to the way it was because this in-between BS is sinking the wallets of middle-class families.
hrehbfthbrweer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking about the UK though...
JediMasterJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but my original comment was aimed at the Canadian comment. I wasn't sure why you were bringing up the UK, since I never mentioned the UK and neither did he/she...
CAN_WE_0x45 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:36:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you think doctors should be forced to serve?
xtremechaos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trump supporters literally want it to only get worse
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why we have medicaid. It's single payer for poor people.
You... do know this, right?
Daedricbanana ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:04:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fucking hell America needs to fix its goddamn healthcare system
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:23:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have to fix their demonization of socialism first.
failed2quitreddit ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 01:01:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which part? The part that lets me get an MRI without waiting months or the part that subsidizes (for the rest of the world) the R&D for so many of the new and improving, lifesaving and quality-of-life improving drugs on the market?
Oh right, you mean the part where people are expected to PAY for these things. Sadly, the pilgrims didn't bring any of those European money tree seeds over on the Mayflower.
Uncle-Drunkle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:05:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You understand how taxes work right?
[deleted] ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 01:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ravelord_Nito_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:51:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America isn't very smart.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ravelord_Nito_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am American, and I prefer us to have a healthcare system that isn't stuck in the dark ages compared to other first world countries.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 03:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ravelord_Nito_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't address any of the problems we face, our healthcare system is still absolute shit. I mean I'm sure we do great private cancer care, for those few of us that can afford it. And specialized care waiting times? Really? As if that means fuck all for the problems lower class face. (Hint, it's not waiting times, it's trying to afford our ridiculous healthcare in the first place.)
There's a reason that our life expectancy is embarrassing compared to other first world countries, just as you linked.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ravelord_Nito_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you measuring all stats to be the same? Why would waiting times and life expectancy be equal? You're over exaggerating "top of everything." Especially when healthcare is a delicate system. One weak link in the chain ruins everything- the example would be great cancer treatment means nothing when nobody can afford it.
And that's because half-assing regulation gives us half-assed healthcare. You can blame republicans for that one, hence ACA being severely neutered. But you know what has tons of data and practice? Socialized health care, working literally all across the world. Sounds like my data is a bit better than yours.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Socialized healthcare isn't the best way to insure people.
You could just give people the money that would go towards their healthcare benefits. It removes the administrative costs and allows individuals to pick the insurance that's right for them.
SheeEttin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:22:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would willingly pay a fair amount in taxes to ensure that all Americans have access to complete health care.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know, that this occurs already?
Firefighters, police men, K-12 education, postal service, public roads, traffic lights, and all that infrastructure wasn't paid for willingly as a "service".
Before firefighters, know what happened if your house caught on fire? If you couldn't put it out yourself, it would burn down.
Before universal healthcare, know what happened if you got sick? If you couldn't pay for the treatment, you died. But it's not before universal healthcare.
Socializing everything is wrong, I'll be the first to agree. But healthcare? Is it really that bad to pay extra taxes for someone else to be able to live?
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:17:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Key difference being, those services used to be private, and are now public. While healthcare is still private.
And I'm assuming that before Ben Franklin, there were no fires? And that first fire department was able to serve all of America?
If you exclude everyone who it didn't work for and exclude the communities that didn't take care of their own, then yes, it worked well for those that the charities reached.
That's actually the choice. I, you, everyone in the country, pays 20% more in taxes and everyone gets fully subsidizes healthcare. Which part am I missing? Implementation details? Of course that's complex, but also not the crux of the choice.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As long as we're going all in on the ad hominems, I might as well not hold back.
What. The. Actual. Fuck. I won't say this is retarded, but it has the naivety/wishful thinking of a 6 year old. The only dialogue I can contribute to this idea is that, no, it's not an adoptable, feasible solution. It's not adoptable because, seriously, nobody will adopt it. It's not feasible because, nobody will adopt it, but ignoring that, any public health crisis that hits the entire community and the whole thing goes boom. The best "community" healthcare is if the community is the entire country because the government can force the adoption and no singular health crisis event can bankrupt the community.
This is in no way ridiculous. If we had universal healthcare right now, we'd be paying higher taxes, and less people would die. But we don't have it. So the question is, should we do it? Because your original quote was: "In America, we prefer to pay willingly for our services rather than have the government forcibly take our money and tell us what we must buy." which is universal healthcare (government forcibly taking our money and telling us what to buy) or not.
That's stupid.
That's even more stupid.
Because it is an emotional argument. In my current position, I would lose money if we implemented universal healthcare. It's a net negative for me to want universal healthcare. Is that logical? Yes, because I want universal healthcare for emotional reasons. Less people die. More people have higher quality of life.
And how the fuck is it fallacious? Do I have to prove that if you get healthcare, you live longer?
Way to bring in the hyperbole. Huge swaths of people have no health insurance or high deductible health plans. No, they don't die immediately. They die faster. If they get treatment, they live longer. In other words, the life expectancy of Americans is going down.
So. Your source is American Liberty Report. Lets go to the front page of this website shall we? Oh? Megyn Kelly Is Leaving Fox! Obama Antagonizes Russia over Partisan Politics! In the web page's About Us section, "At the American Liberty Report we strive to enlighten and educate people about the benefits of traditional conservative values. We believe in limited governments and Americans rights to freedom and privacy."
Totally not biased. Nope.
And the actual article you linked? I'm seeing a lot of words and a lot of numbers and yet ZERO fucking sources. Anyone can write bullshit, sprinkle numbers on top and call it "truth".
I find this very very hard to believe. From comment #1, I could tell you were a far right conservative. Limited government, all freedom. Guys like you don't learn because it goes against your staunch stance of limited government.
Seriously?
You've said some Grade A Bullshit.
If you want good logical conversation, throw your weird unsubstantiated ideas away and speak with reason. Don't say shit like this:
and act like you've disproven something. Because no, I don't fucking know it, I can't read your mind.
Agruk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. You think Europe is richer than the U.S.? The U.S. is the wealthiest country in the history of the world. http://fortune.com/2015/09/30/america-wealth-inequality/
failed2quitreddit ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:45:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, my point is that money doesn't grow on trees, ffs.
Doctors don't work for nothing either, and to presume that a doctor may be conscripted to provide you free health care under your socialized model is akin to saying slavery is ok.
Agruk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:39:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have the right to a fair trial, supervised by a judge, if we're charged with a crime. Do you think that right means that judges may be conscripted to provide us with free trial supervision? Are U.S. judges enslaved?
failed2quitreddit ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:53:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bad analogy. Unlike judges, medical doctors aren't government employees (or very few are). Also, health care isn't a right. Where is that written?
Agruk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:03:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're changing the topic. You assumed that socialized health care models are akin to saying slavery is okay, since they would require doctors to be conscripted. I pointed out that that assumption is baseless. Instead of defending your assumption, you changed to the topics of whether health care rights are written anywhere, and whether doctors are government employees.
failed2quitreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an image macro that goes over this. You can read about it here.
Agruk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
okay. feel free to write back if you ever think of a response to my objection.
failed2quitreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. The judge in your scenario is not a slave. You just might have to wait for your trial for a few days or weeks (speedy). And when you do get to see him you might get 5 minutes. Depends on why you're in front of the judge.
Now, what if there's only one judge? As there are minimum qualifications to become a judge, not least among them years of intense legal schooling followed by actually practicing law, it's not a trivial matter to just make more.
Judges are in finite supply.
So, if there are more cases than a judge can see, you can offer higher compensation for longer hours on the bench, or you can lower the threshold for what constitutes a crime. There is a political solution there.
You could also lower the requirements to becoming a judge. But then, if you find yourself in front of the B-squad, knowing you're innocent, wouldn't you rather have the best? Too bad, this is a government function and you get what you get.
Health care is not a government function. It is a service provided by highly skilled individuals that everybody needs. This makes it quite lucrative for the individual who chooses to pursue the education and training necessary. And the result is that health care costs.
So how does the government respond? It says that they'll only pay 50% of what the doctor says service X costs. Doctors respond by saying they won't take government paid plans. So now the government makes it illegal for doctors to charge more than the rate the government will pay. If that rate is lower than the doctor's costs, the doctor cannot practice. It doesn't pay the bills.
So now there are no doctors.
This is where the slavery analogy occurs. People still get sick, but no doctor will work for free, so how will you make him work if not by force?
I know this won't convince you and I wish you all the best with your efforts to overthrow our capitalist system. Not everyone has equal abilities and so you'll never achieve equality of outcome for all. Why don't you move to Venezuela to see how great socialism really is. I'll even send you a roll of toilet paper if you PM your address when you get there.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:33:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. How can you be so misinformed on how healthcare works for the rest of the world.
jackboy61 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:52:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a brit I still find it fascinating that in America you have to pay for health care. And even more so that everyone seems to just be okay with that.
Agruk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is fascinating. The population here in the U.S. is, mostly, terrified and demoralized. Some favor socialized health care. But most are afraid, due to propaganda efforts going back to Reagan in the 1960s and McCarthy in the 1950s, that 'socialism' will be even worse than the status quo. And labor is utterly defeated here, so those who want the British model see no realistic political avenue for accomplishing it.
Mainstream Democrats too, including Hilary Clinton, mock the idea of socialized healthcare and higher education. Here is one of the saddest displays of 2016, from civil-rights-hero-turned-mainstream-Democrat John Lewis:
http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2016/02/17/john-lewis-on-bernie-sanders-nothing-free-in-america/
Ellend821 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, I did not realise until I was maybe 16? That healthcare wasn't free throughout the world. I mean I understand in LEDC that it wouldn't be the case, but it really didn't cross my mind before then that people in countries like the US would have to pay for their health or go without.
Slacker5001 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None of us are ok with it. But none of us will do anything. Part indifference, part feeling like you have no power as a citizen of your country, and part worrying that universal healthcare is too "socialist" or to "liberal" regardless of the fact that private healthcare is clearly failing badly.
jackboy61 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose that's the problem with living in such a highly populated country. It's hard to get anything done without pissing a lot of people off
Slacker5001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And considering were a two party system that is split roughly down the middle a lot of the time, your generally pissing off half the country by trying to do anything.
jackboy61 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. That must be a horrible situation, for both sides!
Slacker5001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Welcome to 'Merica.
LittleSadEyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My fiancรฉ spent new year's morning sleeping on the floor of a hospital for a bridesmaid who had too much. Ended up pinching a nerve in his back somewhere, lost feeling below his knee. His family is prone to neuropathy.
The $20 cane is tall enough, and he's got SOME of the feeling back. That's all I can ask for.
exiestjw ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You pay for healthcare too, just via taxes. About $6,000 / year.
http://jacksonville.com/interact/blog/altquark/2009-08-13/higher_taxes_for_healthcare_what_do_people_really_pay_in_europe_f_0
Also, fuck this:
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1916570,00.html
These reasons are why I and other people are okay with taking care of insurance myself.
izozyr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's simply wrong. The article states that National Insurance "is specifically for Healthcare and your state-pension", but all of it is actually used to pay for pensions, widow allowances, unemployment benefits, and similar support systems. The TIME article you linked specifically says that healthcare costs the UK about $2.5k/capita/year, compared to $6k/c/y for the US. It's almost as if the American system was highly cost inefficient...
exiestjw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok. Any response to what I posted about the shit service?
If they told me I had to wait two months for inpatient service, I'd be like "fuck it, I'm moving to America".
baldyheadedmanc ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 21:59:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which, as an Australian, is fucking insane.
He_Who_Writes ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:42:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an American, it is also fucking insane, but we have retarded people everywhere in our government purposefully keeping the populace uneducated and fighting against their own interests.
TheGeorgeForman ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:12:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fucking crazy. Like I would be rushing to the hospital if I had a broken jaw. Medicare got my back.
3dstuff ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:29:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for now....
fury-s12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
give the gov a few more years and it wont be that insane
JediMasterJedi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:38:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not insane, considering that our health care industry is bloated and over-charges for everything because we didn't have universal health care soon enough (they were paying for a lot of treatments out of pocket because they are morally obligated to perform treatments on people who go to the E.R.).
Obama tried to erase years of damage by starting the Affordable Care Act, but it was too late. Now, our premiums are sky-rocketing and most Americans are paying too much for health insurance because Congress wouldn't let Obama move to a single-payer system. The reason? They feared the tax hikes would sink middle-class families.
Really, I can see both sides of the argument, and all I can say is that we have a terrible system and we need reform (again).
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America wouldn't even need a tax hike. Just stop spending so dam much on the military and look after your own people.
Flyingwheelbarrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed
C477um04 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:26:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's the reason that britain started improving it's healthcare system in the early 20th century. You'll get there too eventually.
StopTalkingOK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably around the same time Big Nanny installs security cameras in all you Brits bedrooms.
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Agruk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's wonderful, provided that you are among the wealthiest 25% or so of Americans. For the bottom 25-50%, not.
DCromo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i dont know how an open mandible fracture wasn't bothering her though.
oreosinmymouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me neither lol
Xervicx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, I still haven't gone to a doctor about issues that have existed for most of my life. My parents wouldn't take me to the doctor or keep me home from school even with a fever of 103F, so I didn't exactly grow up in a household that was all for trying to get medical attention for anything.
the-mbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time for you to hit your Parents with a stick. This is absolutely unresponsible behaviour
Xervicx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah I'm aware. And my Mother wonders why I don't like listening to her advice even more than when I was little.
-Pelvis- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have suffered for five months with a broken wisdom tooth while I was looking for work; really bad cavity. Hurt like a bitch. Finally had work dental insurance kick in last month, went to the dentist and got antibiotics for the infection. Now the pain is gone. Getting it extracted in a few days!
[deleted] ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 21:27:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't surprise me much, particularly if it's in the US. If it's not bothering her, I imagine concerns about the cost as well as any time out of work would be major deciding factors in that decision.
Obviously, though, not great to leave it untreated.
Edit: Responded further down because brain did not process the "open" part of that injury. Yikes.
Stats_Sexy ยท 430 points ยท Posted at 22:07:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is this an acceptable way to live in a first world country?
formative_informer ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 23:47:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The weird thing is how we pay more for this nonsensical service that doesn't cover everyone.
Every other developed country has healthcare which covers everyone and is cheaper per capita.
psychicsword ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:33:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We already spend $10k/year per person. Maybe it is just me but I don't see that going down when people like big bank Hillary or loud mouth big wig Trump are handling the negotiations between their friends and the general public.
formative_informer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:58:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance companies are fighting like mad to keep us away from the single payer plan. Pretending that the single payer plan would cost more because everyone is corrupt is absurd--the corrupt practices are what are keeping us paying huge amounts to private insurance.
psychicsword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying it will cost more. I'm just saying it won't cost any less in the short or medium term because Trump and any future president can't just wave a magic wand and get things to cost less day 1. It takes years of consistent non-stop negotiation downward to get prices down and I don't trust my politicians to be able to do that. If we had passed a single payer system under Obama we would be repealing it during Trump. In the meantime we would have a ton of layoffs and rehire booms and bust cycles. I would rather just skip out on that market instability.
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psychicsword ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of like the Verizon consultant and Sprint sprint lobbyists appointed to the FCC transition team?
sabrina468 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 23:54:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know. European currently living in the US. Dentist told me to get my wisdom teeth removed. Cost: $4000. Decided to see if I can wait to get this done when I move back home in a year or so. I mean, who has $4000 laying around??? Friend of mine needed a couple stitches. They charged him about $500 per stitch. He kind of regretted not buying some superglue and doing it himself..
mvtheg ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im moving to Hong Kong soon (from the UK). If something happens to me over there I'm just gonna fly back to the UK and get it sorted here.
If that means a 12 hour flight with a broken leg then so be it!
foragingsociety ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually had similar things happen with friends of mine--English and Argentinian, respectively. It was cheaper/easier for them to fly from Los Angeles to their home countries for root canals than it was to get them done in America. So fucking sad.
ayjak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A TA of mine missed a couple of days of class one time, and we were curious as to why. Turns out, he needed a root canal, and it was cheaper to fly back to fucking Romania rather than just get the exact same procedure done here.
Ex_iledd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
4 grand? In Canada where I live I had all 4 removed for $1800. 500 of which was the drugs that knock you out/pain/swelling. At a place where the surgeon had been doing it for 40 years and was done in 45 minutes. As they say 'greed is good'.. I guess.
Heroicis ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 23:42:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually don't like to take political sides, but for some reason it's such a Republican/Conservative thing.
"Socialized healthcare doesn't work."
"But it works literally everywhere it's been do-"
"Hush! My taxes!"
Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of conservative viewpoints, but still can't believe so many right-wing people refuse to accept the fact that socialized healthcare works.
KinglyWeevil ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shut it you filthy commie, we need those taxes to pay Raytheon to build bombs to send stone age brown people further back into the stone age! So that we can hire our contractor friends and pay them Billions to rebuild their shit.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:00:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just rub some FREEDOM on that broken collarbone!
PiLamdOd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:49:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But long lines /s
Psychosmurf43 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:10:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you don't get it, taxes were invented by the satanist commies to steal MY hard-earned money!
Triabolical_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:08:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even more ridiculous is the fact that many people don't realize that Medicare is a single payer system
chefranden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:43 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Americans are the only people in the world that will give $100 to a corporation to save $50 in taxes.
FloppY_ ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:21:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'muricans don't want to pay taxes even if it saves them money and improves their quality of life.
ptrst ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:50:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
America's culture is based a lot on individualism - especially the concept that, if you're smart and work hard, you'll be successful (rich). Since everyone thinks they're smart and a hard worker, it's only a matter of time until they're rich! And when that inevitably happens, they don't want their money taxed to pay for all the poor, unsuccessful, lazy people who could be rich if only they worked hard and deserved it.
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GamerKey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how people end up in the hospital, get their very progressed stage 4 cancer discovered, and die a few weeks later.
No sick-days/being sick getting deducted from vacation is an atrocity, too.
Delphizer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bahaha, it'd be more like 700$ for urgent care and 1k's for the hospital.
skittymcbatman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:11:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, me too! Well, with the few weeks ago and the need for zofran - it was the only thing I paid for - not the 7 hours in hospital, not the food, not the CT, not the 3 shots of ondansetron in the IV port which did nothing anyway :(
Colin_Whitepaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, IV ondansetron did nothing? That shit is MAGICAL.
skittymcbatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Max dose is 3 per day, right? I got that and I was still nauseous -although the tablets worked (and tasted nice)
Colin_Whitepaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm unsure of max dosage on ondansetron nor the pharmacology behind why it has one, though "three injections" could mean virtually any amount of substance.
Glad to hear that you did find relief in the end.
AgentJin ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 23:05:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITS ACCEPTABKE BECAUSE UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE IS TOO MUCH LIKE COMMUNISM AND COMMUNISM IS FUCKING BAD!!! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!!1!1!
It isn't an acceptable way to live in a developed country. Broken healthcare system + no effort being put in to mediate this problem AFAIK = people not wanting to pay 300,000+ dollar hospital bills.
curiousGambler ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:14:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're joking but as a child I remember thinking that communist countries literally had a Battle Royale fight to the death between candidates to choose a new leader. That is how absurdly demonized communism is in this country. This was the 90s in Massachusetts.
Obviously communism has sucked just about everywhere it's been, but the logic of
is freakin' rampant in this country and it's disgusting and sad.
robdiqulous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost half the country was smart enough to vote for trump... And we are hoping for universal Healthcare soon. We can keep hoping. People don't care about facts. They know more than them fancy books.
PiLamdOd ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know Trump is in favor or medical insurance and ending the ACA, right?
robdiqulous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying we will never progress towards that with trump in office. Should have added a /s in my last post maybe?
Kill_Butt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this day and age, you can't possibly be too careful.
Torger083 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't repealing Obamacare in his mandate?
KitSwiftpaw ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:31:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obamacare UPPED the insurance prices though, and did nothing it promised
Torger083 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. And gave millions who have never been able to have insurance insurance.
But Christ forbid you go to a single payer system like a civilized country.
TheMarkHasBeenMade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also makes people not want jobs in healthcare, which perpetuates making the jobs of the currently employed grueling, less efficient, and far more difficult, contributing to a further decline in health care quality (which perpetuates patients being unhappy with their care which perpetuates reduced funding to health care systems which perpetuates the issue of constantly being understaffed).
It's a pretty vicious cycle that goes on and on because politicians are making the decisions on matters they know jack shit about and often can't be bothered to try to understand. As long as their pockets keep getting lined by Big Pharma and insurance companies (who have pretty much endless resources because of the power given to them by politicians) the cycle continues and grows more vicious.
MuricanA321 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 22:46:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. But the GOP is about to take us straight back there, and worse. Whee!
Thinks_Like_A_Man ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:20:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the millions of people who finally got coverage and went to the doctor with lists of problems because they finally had healthcare. Now they have pre-existing conditions and many are pretty much uninsurable. Pre-diabetic? You're screwed. Hypertension? You won't get another policy. Female? Forget it.
This scares me more than anything else about the GOP. People are going to die.
TheShattubatu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female is a medical condition ?
Thinks_Like_A_Man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To an insurer, yes.
Kittyk4y ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:14:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not, but people are too damn greedy and can't bear to see extra taxes coming out of their income.
nutseed ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:42:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how could anyone afford tax hikes with all these medical bills?
BrownChicow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why we avoid going to the hospital
Agruk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And those of us who agree with you are too damn lazy to protest, to call our political representatives, or even to vote--let alone help to fund organizations that lobby for universal health care.
We'll see if anyone even shows up for Bernie's January 15th rallies around the country. I doubt it.
http://map.ourrevolution.com
Kittyk4y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily too lazy. Not enough resources or energy to protest or call representatives or vote. I know a lot of people who didn't vote because they couldn't afford to miss the day of work - too few polling places so the lines are excessively long, even if you get there early (because everyone gets there early to try to avoid the long lines).
Torvaun ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's acceptable, and I vote to say so every time I can. After years of this, here we are.
dteague33 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:24:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure...try calling a Republican Congressman and see if they give you an answer.
Bowelhaver ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:59:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I ask myself this everyday. I'm screwed in a couple years when I can no longer be on my family's insurance... I do not like this country.
marx1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just turned 25 a week ago. I'm going to milk this last year for all it's worth.
KrimsonKasper ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:55:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its not, but you don't make money off people by making them better.
iamlowsound ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:00:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't.
KinglyWeevil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't. It's why we're teetering on a Soviet Union style collapse.
FireLucid ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:14:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because they get to have guns instead?
ShakerGecko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not but don't tell Republicans that
GWS2004 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because repeblicans and people who hate facts.
Rockonfoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that's why no one talks about it
Agruk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is considered to be acceptable because of the finest
propagandapublic relations efforts in the world.psinguine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the people who could change it are the ones that don't need it.
snayblay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, Trump is going to fix it ๐ญ
ezekiellake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. The US is effectively a failed state; they're really just a bunch of folk who all live in the same geographic area and share a delusion they live in a nation state.
Netbususer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. Unfortunately we have too many citizens who are fucking morons who insist that it's more important for them to never possibly contribute for their neighbor than to care for themselves or their families. Ironically, it's typically the poorest and least educated who feel this way and would serve to benefit the most. Truly a sad state of affairs.
mmmolives ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:22:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well OBVIOUSLY if you have medical problems you just pull yourself up by your bootstraps & get a nice upper middle class career with full benefits! Duh!
Nesnesitelna ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries, we won't be a first would country for long.
Ethost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ccm596 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't.
yaosio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The GOP want the poor to die so it's acceptable to them.
ahchava ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. That's why healthcare is a major debate here. The problem is that some people that are part of the decision process value money more than people, so as capitalists, those people tend to be able to over ride the rest because it tends to be their products and services in question.
magpiekeychain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It kinda sounds like it doesn't really deserve that rating any more...
omegasavant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not accepted. That's why so much of our political rhetoric has been centered around healthcare lately.
daten-shi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
because americans are stubborn and create an uproar at the mere mention of increasing taxes or anything to pay for the nations medical care like the UK or a lot of other countries do.
johnqevil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the USA, we have the right to be stupid. Apparently.
well-ok-then ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have fantastic insurance, can easily afford copay, and don't lose any money for taking sick days. Going to the dr is a pain! Takes hours out of my day, the place is uncomfortable, the receptionist and nurses are rude, and they usually don't make me any better. Got a nasty virus? That sucks. Take this antibiotic that won't help. Rest and fluids. Joint hurts? try not to do that. Take painkillers. But not too much.
dinoscool3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who said anything about the US being first world?
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Zeralonde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, though we have very different opinions on which direction to go with it (assuming that you agree with socialized health care). I don't believe in cost transfers to begin with (Medicaid, -care, SS, etc.), but I understand that puts me outside of the mainstream of Americans.
I think I should stop before this gets too deep though, haha!
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Zeralonde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a libertarian and a pretty strong one, which is outside the American mainstream. In reality, I'm pragmatic (I don't push for changes that will obviously never be possible, like the below example). But in my ideal worldview...
SS/Medicaid/Medicare wouldn't exist. The federal government has powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution. Providing health care (or funding for it) is not one of them. On a basic level, I don't believe the government should be able to force you to pay into a retirement funding system (SS), nor do I believe it is their place to provide service/funding for health care services.
To many, that's "heartless" (and I understand on an emotional level why people would think that). To me, it's philosophically consistent. Like everything else, health care is a product/service. If you want it, pay for it. If you don't, don't. Government shouldn't hinder or assist you in your decision-making. It should fight to uphold your right to make that choice, but not try to influence it in either direction.
Simply put, as required by the Constitution, the government doesn't have the explicit right to do it.
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Zeralonde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In certain cases, true. You also die without food and (in many cases) shelter. Should government should provide free food or housing? I'm genuinely curious, following your logic. You might support free housing (some do), but I've never heard an argument for free government-provided food. Following that logic, it should be provided.
I disagree. Up until this century, it was treated as a service throughout human history. And it worked quite well in conjunction with charity. That's another thing that gets ignored: when the government doesn't step in, charity does. There are countless examples of this, including health care.
Getting into that would get way too complicated to discuss on reddit, but I disagree completely. Health care can and has worked in capitalist systems.
This is true in theory, but not reality. This also ignores competition. When products are priced too expensively, competitors enter the market to provide cheaper (and still profitable) services. That's something that is very hindered by the government in our current system. It also again ignores charity, which was very common prior to the Medicaid/Medicare systems were created. Ron Paul, for example, spoke about how he would often provide free health care to those who couldn't afford it. I can't find that interview, but here's at least one testimonial of him doing it (warning: it is a political TV ad).
We can get so deep here, but I don't think it's worth the effort for either of us. If you're very interested, I recommend you read The Cure: How Capitalism Can Save American Health Care to get a better idea of my stance (generally - I disagree with some points).
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Zeralonde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way too massive. Again, as wasn't addressed, the federal government on a very basic level has no legal authority to provide such services to begin with. It is not constitutional.
That's because of advances in technology, not the system. A fallacious comparison.
You're assuming charities are these super-specific situations, though. Half a century ago, each individual doctor and hospital functioned as quasi-charities, charging those who could afford it and providing free care to those who couldn't. When I say "charity" I don't necessarily mean funding for alzheimer's or cancer, but the community doctors and medical communities pitching in. That existed in abundance previous to our current system (ask your parents or grandparents, depending on your age). With government involvement, it no longer does.
You don't "shop around," the business has already set competitive prices. If I want a burger, I don't compare McDonald's or Burger King prices. I go to whatever one is closer because I know their massive competition has forced them to lower prices. Sure, one is cheaper, but they're both relatively the same. I don't "shop" for my emergency care, I go to the closest hospital already knowing their care is competitively priced. If it wasn't competitively priced, they wouldn't be in business.
I agree. Everyone wants that. We just disagree on the way to achieve it.
That depends on who you are. Are you the guy in the hospital once a month? Socialized health care is great for you. Are you healthy and almost never in the hospital? Socialized health care is very expensive and unnecessary for you.
And when we look at the "average American" or "average European," who is somewhere between always and never in the hospital, health care is actually cheaper in the USA.
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Zeralonde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea if they've been challenged. What I will say is that the courts have given extreme leeway in other relatively similar situations. Social Security has been upheld because of the Constitution's "Commerce Clause," which gives the federal government the power to "regulate commerce between the states." Because people sometimes move states, say the courts, their personal retirement decisions are "commerce." Therefore, forcing people to pay into Social Security is "constitutional." I think it's an abuse of the Constitution.
Long answer short: many unconstitutional things are ruled "constitutional." It's unsurprisingly hard to get the government to restrain itself.
Not true at all. Health care distribution was much, much more efficient a century ago. The care itself was bad (because of the technology and knowledge), but the distribution and costs were a million times better. Only when the government got involved did costs skyrocket.
That's why people voluntarily buy insurance.
But it's not more cost effective. It's only cost effective for the "always in the hospital" guy and those with emergencies - far less than a quarter of the population. For most people, it's a financial detriment.
It's simply a difference in preferences. I would rather keep more of my own money and chose to spend it how I wish, with a health care system that is open to competition and cheaper. You prefer a system in which you pay higher taxes to never have to worry about future medical emergency costs. Neither is "right" or "wrong," it's just what we'd prefer to do with our money.
On a principled level, I just think government should give us that choice. We disagree on this and that's fine. The difference is, in your case, the government uses force to require me to do something. That's what I hate the most, that I have no say. That personal liberty is critical to me.
With that said, I am happy I was able to have this discussion. Health care debates rarely exist without hate, so I appreciate that this was civil and informative. When you have time, I implore you to read this. It might help you understand my side a bit more.
Have a nice night!
uber_austrian ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:54:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is a 100% bullshit argument but I'll give you an upvote anyway for providing a well-researched and civil summary of a massively divisive topic.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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rglitched ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rand's argument at the very least is pretty illogical unless he's also willing to claim that our right to a trial demonstrably equates to conscription for judges, lawyers and varying other professionals in the legal field right now in the present day.
myhipsi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's a bullshit argument at all. You might disagree with the argument, but it's a thoughtful and principled argument nonetheless.
uber_austrian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I said I think it's a bullshit argument instead of it is. I know there are perfectly reasonable people who subscribe to it even though they tend not to be the vocal ones. The people who I actually see opposing socialized medical care, though, either suffer from a fundamental misunderstanding of the proposed system (the "you just want everything for free" crowd - also, "free medical care=slave labor" is just delusional) or it's rich people thinking "the lazy poor people want my money!" (e.g., "Those who often need health care benefit from such a system, while those who rarely use it are financially harmed"), both of which I find intolerable. I wish more of them thought it through like /u/Zeralonde.
I understand the rationale that people are "responsible for their own choices and their own health", but how does that apply to people with hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt for, say, lifesaving cancer treatments? Or any number of other treatments for conditions not caused by negligence? Or people who forego medical treatments entirely because of the potential cost? Don't I have a right to not suffer from a condition I have no control over?
Perhaps I'd feel differently if the cost of quality medical care was less egregious - and if it was more available - but that ties into wealth inequality, the fuckery of the insurance industry, and all sorts of other things. But what it comes down to for me is there are people suffering, and ensuring people's well being with slightly higher taxes rather than waiting - while they continue to suffer - to address more deeply entrenched social issues first seems well worth it to me. I can't sympathize with people who prioritize marginally lower personal financial costs over the well-being of their fellow Americans.
Zeralonde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want things to get heated, but I'll jump in just a little to provide my thoughts.
Your assumption is that costs remain the same if the system changes, but that's untrue. The extreme cost of health care is a result of the system we currently have, as the government has hindered competition and drastically increased costs. In a true free-market health care system, such procedures wouldn't cost that much to begin with and those who charged them would quickly go out of business.
And we have solid evidence of that. Costs rise at nearly identical rates of government intervention (i.e., costs rise the more government gets involved in American health care). When government (rarely) backs off, costs fall. That's not economic theory - we have proof of it.
So the argument isn't just "pay for what you want/need," it's also the belief that costs will organically fall with free-market health care. So then it's "pay for what you want/need," but it's a ton cheaper.
uber_austrian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HEATING INTENSIFIES
But really, your comment just points out another way to achieve the same goal I want: get rid of the stupid cost and generally make things better for actual Americans. (I happen to disagree that a "true free market" is the best way to go about that - I put zero faith in corporations' ability to stay honest, and the fact that socialized medical care works just fine in other countries points to a failure in implementation in America rather than an inherent flaw in the concept.) But my point is, we have a mutual goal; if there were a widespread understanding of that mutual goal throughout the US, instead of between two commenters on Reddit, we'd be miles closer to actually solving the problem. But that doesn't seem terribly likely to me, unfortunately.
Zeralonde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just happy we can have a legitimate discussion. Most of these debates involve too much hate on both sides.
I happen to think that opening up competition would lower costs to a point where the uninsured wouldn't have to worry about getting procedures (and I have evidence behind it). You happen to think that paying higher taxes to provide government-run health care is more than worth the cost. It's an important debate to have, but healthy debate like this is a must.
wjholcomb3 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:58:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I could buy into that. Now explain to me how insurance companies can charge you for years then refuse your claim due to updates in policy coverage.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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wjholcomb3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand devil's advocate that's why it is fun. From GA originally currently in VA a insurance company can send a silly email and gain your signature. Does not change the fact that these companies are after the bottom dollar. They will do what is needed to improve their Brand. The US government is interested in keeping healthcare costs down, but care little for targeting the actual contributor of cost.
Zeralonde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite right. Allowing more providers to compete for customers would solve the problem you've presented.
DarkestSin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the UK. I'm fine with waiting in line for treatment. I have been quite unlucky in health in my life. I had an obstruction of the intestines when I was a child, hyperthyroidism as a young adult, have had my tonsils and gallbladder removed, broken my leg twice, arm once and fingers once, and I have depression and anxiety which I get counselling for every week for free. The Nhs and socialist healthcare means I am not bankrupt. If you have a life threatening injury, you will be seen to right away. If you don't, you wait. And that is fine. I would much rather pay my taxes and be well and healthy in mind and body than save money and have to worry about my body breaking down.
Zeralonde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's perfectly okay. I just wanted to explain the logic to the non-Americans. We would generally rather chose to pay only for what we need, while Europeans generally prefer to pay more in taxes up-front to receive "free" care. There's nothing inherently wrong about either, it's just differences in societal preferences.
Torvaun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your final point indicates that so-called free health care isn't, rather the costs are applied to all of society via taxation. Doesn't that conflict with your initial point, that requiring someone to work for free is literally slavery? No one is being asked to work for free.
Now, given that Medicare is funded from taxes and under government administration, would expanding that system to cover all Americans really represent a massive violation of rights?
LaComadreja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recommend looking at Singapore's healthcare system. Each person pays into a required health savings account, then pays for services on the free market. Government and employers may contribute to this account for the poor. Everyone has a "catastrophic" insurance that covers incidents over some amount (maybe $7k). The insurance is cheap since most never use it.
This system lets the free market dictate costs, subsidizes the poor, and stops people from going into debt over medical costs.
On a separate note, medical boards artificially restrict the number of individuals who become doctors, and one legally has to be a doctor to perform most procedures. Insurance paperwork and malpractice insurance discourage small practices further increasing costs due to decreased competition.
Zeralonde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll look into it!
I'm opposed to it on a principled level (in my mind, government shouldn't force you to pay into, well, anything), but it's a very interesting system by the sound of it. Better than what we currently have, so a "step in the right direction" in my mind. Catastrophic insurance to prevent huge debts, but otherwise a free market. Sounds good.
LordLimpDicks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
98% of your comment can be summarized with a "no shit Sherlock".
Doctor_Cornelius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:07:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's never been attempted on a country the size of the USA. 320 million people to insure is a lot more than Japan's 126m (the largest single payer system).
StrawberryR ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You non-americans always say that, like leaving an injury that's not actively hurting you is THAT bad. I don't know about a jaw fracture, but I mean, if you're not actively bleeding out and about to die, is there really an urgent need to get to the hospital?
adamhighdef ยท 194 points ยท Posted at 21:40:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The US is so, so backwards.
The actual fuck.
TheMadmanAndre ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 21:48:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Politicians have managed to convince a substantial portion of the voting base to vote against their own self interest through gratuitous use of propaganda.
Spencer_Reid ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:04:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Essentially to piggy back off of this thought- in the United States people are told that by having socialized healthcare- their taxes will be so high that they won't be able to pay for anything else and that the health care system would be so overwhelmed that they wouldn't be able to get care. The ironic part of all of this is that the majority of Americans who have insurance already pay an ungodly amount in deductibles and monthly fees that come directly out of their pay checks. And with a bit of research would figure out that Canadians don't pay anywhere near in taxes the total that the majority of Americans pay for their insurance that they still have to pay bills even after paying into it monthly. Also the systems are no more overwhelmed then the American health care systems. But people hear what they want to hear. Edit- words on mobile. Hope it makes sense
PigDog4 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pay 20% of your income for health care? Sure, whatever, I guess.
Have the very rich pay 10% more in taxes to help subsidize health care for everyone ? Fuck no, that's godless social communism!
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:35:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck the media that employs 90% of all journalists is owned by the best buddies of people writing legislation or executives. It's all loosely connected but in aggregate leads to what you see now. Soap boxes for the elites in everyone's home.
Human nature can be blamed to a degree, as it seems people actually like it this way. Who watches CSPAN? No they watch Fox News, CNN, etc. to get some opinions and entertainment with their "news".
I am not sure why it's that way when we can look back to some retired or dead journalists that actually had ethics and integrity, but my operating theory is that more people don't respect knowledge or intelligence than ever. I think it might have something to do with the baby boomers being successful without needing any sort of education. They get the false sense that knowledge or intelligence aren't important, or just another way of viewing the world, rather than an actual information or problem-solving advantage.
Before people could get a middle class wage for doing relatively unskilled work you'd more often see average people living in poverty conditions, and the educated professionals were making bank by comparison. So they look up and respect those people because they have a yard stick to measure them with that they understand.
Nowadays it's like "Well my dad runs a successful small town business so clearly he knows what he's talking about when it comes to macroeconomics!" and people are actually interested in hearing his opinion on a topic he likely has very limited understanding of. What does he actually know about what tariffs do? Not much, likely.
I don't mean to sound elitist, as I am not advocating we fix it by making anyone poor or have less opportunity. It's just an observation.
5yearsinthefuture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you need to buy another package for cspan
NumbMyLove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn right, none of that socialism crap, it don't belong in 'Merica! /s
Seriously. It's messed up and I'm terrified for my future.
oz6702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Small government"
MegaGoomy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit seems to get so tinfoil-hatty over this. Maybe most people don't particularly want it?
CartoonsAreForKids ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:39:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait, you'll see idiotic extremist conservatives or libertarians come rushing in to defend the system. They think it's unfair that the middle class and upper class have to pay for the healthcare of people who don't pay taxes. They're more concerned about fairness than they are about the fact that people would rather leave illnesses and injuries untreated than go to a doctor. They, along with the Republican party, give the rest of America a bad reputation.
Seicair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anyone thinks our current system is good. People just have different views on how to best fix it.
yaosio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Conservatives want to fix it by doing nothing. Just let the poor die and it will fix itself.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 23:24:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Justify the fairness of paying for someone who cant, I'm curious as to what you say.
narse77 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:28:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because you are paying for it already.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Simply because people already are, doesn't mean they like it.
yaosio ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:20:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like dying due to lack of healthcare.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:25:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People die in socialized healthcare countries as well because they don't receive the care they need.
MrRandomSuperhero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Socialised country here - No we don't.
Emergency Room takes between an hour or instant, depending on urgency. Doctor costs 20 euros, 15 of which are paid back. Same for most meds. Same for ambulances, if not entirely free.
Expand those horizons of yours past one viewpoint.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Laura Hillier, in Canada. No medical system is perfect, socialized doesn't save people magically.
There are plenty of sources that note the downfalls of socialized medicine.
MrRandomSuperhero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume Laura died because of lack of care? One person versus hundreds/thousands yearly in the us?
Also, yes, obviously people die in hospitals, it's the people that cannot pay for hospitals I worry about.
Source me up then, I'm willing to learn.
I do need to say, I feel like this isn't explicitly stated anywhere. Personal isurance and social security are the same for an insured person and still cheaper for every party involved. The idea being that anyone above the national minimum living-limit will chip in a few dollars for themselves via the streamlined national insurance. I personally fail to see any downside for you as a party.
MrRandomSuperhero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, looking into the Laura case real quicklike, she died because doctors deemed 5 transplants per month the maximum safe limit, which she did reach under said social security, monthly.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That wouldn't happen under the American system of you have healthcare. Care is infinitely available.
MrRandomSuperhero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would though. They limit to 5 per month because of medical safety, not monetary constraints. She would have died either way.
Also, no response to my other comment?
You seem hellbent to keep on believing what you believe now, for some reason.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See, when you pay out of pocket, you can go elsewhere for surgery.
MrRandomSuperhero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You seem to miss the point, you cannot do more surgery. It would kill her through sheer exhaustion and medication.
Also this
CartoonsAreForKids ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:39:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're paying for a healthcare system that benefits everyone, so it's cutting off your nose to spite your face to deny this system on the grounds of fairness. It also saves you a huge amount of money, and helps the economy. People who couldn't spend as much money before because of medical costs would start spending more, which is good for the overall economy.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 23:48:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't be the nose off my face.
This might be a crazy concept for you, but maybe the government should be caring for the people without using other people's tax dollars.
Taking money that could be spent by someone to pay for someone else's medical so they can spend money is pretty convoluted.
modernchic1977 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:22:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, what? How can a government pay for anything without using everyone's tax dollars? This makes no sense. Unless you think we should be able to pick and choose what the government spends EACH CONTRIBUTOR'S tax money on? So, I hate military spending, so I think none of my money should go there, but I love things like Medicare and the EPA, so I want all of my taxes to support those. That is just not efficient, honestly! I pay my taxes and am fine with some of my dollars going to support the military, even though I personally want it to be a lot less. I am not sure why people who generally pay less taxes than I do begrudge the tiny pittance that pay for things I support.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:45:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Individual persons taxes don't make up all money the government has at it's disposal.
You want people to bitch less about welfare and social aid? Show them exactly who their money is supporting. Even then some people aren't going to care.
"Its my money, why should the government get to decide what it pays for."
One problem being that many person oriented needs are profit based. The fact that you can haggle with a hospital is evidence enough.
You would be surprised at the negative kickback you would get from cutting military funding. The military will cut personnel, this causes more people to be unemployed. They cut production contracts, this causes companies to cut personnel, more unemployment. The military also has more unavoidable expenses than you know. But I do approve of a more isolationist government.
My tax "pittance" I look at, and think about what I could be doing with that money.
librarychick77 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they should only build roads that you personally use with your tax dollars? And if you have no kids the schools shouldn't get your money? And you should only get a seniors pension that comes out of your taxes once you're a senior?
This is ridiculous.
It benefits all of society to have the healthiest, best educated society possible - that is how you get a successful, happy, and productive country/economy. Or at least one factor. If a big chunk of your work force can't do the jobs they were trained to do because they can't afford health care (because their shitty job paid them no where near enough and they had to go to work when they were only sort of injured, so they got hurt worse, and now are completely incapable...or something)....
The whole idea of "I'll pay for my own" presumes you live off of luck. Sure, it seems great until you're too sick to work (sometimes through no fault of your own), or you have a kid who's sick so one parent has to stay home AND you still have to pay bills, or you assume you'll never be in any sort of accident...
Do you really, honestly, think you'll live a completely healthy life and suddenly die in your sleep one day? Or are you a 'only rich people deserve to be healthy' person?
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe in using my tax dollars to fund things that directly affect and assist me. Infrastructure benefits me directly without it goods wouldn't be transported.
My taxes dollars paying for someone's healthcare does not directly affect and assist me.
Im sure you can think up scenarios that show this idea is flawed but you get the point.
Considering how expensive school and property taxes are in my area, so much so that it effects my housing, yet how little they get used efficently gives me a right to complain about how expensive they are.
You describe basic economic hardship, head over to r/personalfinance, and see what they recommend.
The health industry is based around for profit, this is quite a problem I agree, it should be cheaper for a person to stay healthy.
Skillster ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:34:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even understand what you're trying to say. Are you saying taxes that go to healthcare would not benefit you? Healthcare that you will and have used. That your family will and have used?
You realize that the US pays more for healthcare in insurance and deductibles, than the majority of first world countries do for full medical coverage? You could literally pay the same amount of money you already do, or less, or slightly more. To get better care for you and your family, while also supporting the rest of the fucking country. But you won't do that, because you think that people who can't afford exorbitant insurance prices in a for-profit healthcare system are leeches? What a joke.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:43:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents always had job offered healthcare, I've always had job offered healthcare. I've never relied on the system. Therfor they do not directly benefit me.
I'm paying for someone else and myself. Its like me knocking on your door and asking you for money, are you gonna give it to me, or are you gonna want a reason?
Again the government is responsible for its citizens. I don't care how they pay for it, unless it comes out of my taxes when it doesn't benefit me. It's like you don't realize what society we live in. I'm trying to make it, I need all the money I can get, any money I get taxed for better god damn well be used to benefit me.
Skillster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh so it's free? Oh wait, I'll bet they take it out of what they would normally pay you to get these benefits! Almost like you're inadvertently paying for healthcare!
Employer: "I want an employee that costs me 60k dollars a year. I know, I'll offer him a job for 55k dollars a year, and give him shitty job offered healthcare for free! We'll call it a benefit! Plus I'll make a profit on him, because this healthcare only costs me 4k a year. And he'll think he's getting out ahead!"
"Excuse me sir, we're here to collect the money that would normally go to your healthcare for you and your wife. But instead it's going to go to a socialized healthcare where you help pay for the entire country, and all of those in need! Don't worry you will have the same coverage, and absolutely nothing will change about your level of care!"
You: "Absolutely not! I will not pay for to help someone else under any circumstance unless it directly benefits me! Take my money but only if it only goes for my care. Somebody who really needs help could use that, but they don't deserve it because they obviously don't work hard enough. I don't support leeches on my dime!"
"I'm a money-whoring selfish prick who will shoot himself in the foot as long as it will affect those who are worse off than me."
MarcusAurelius0 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christ you got mad.
I have to work to survive, if that means worrying about my money and what happens with my taxes then so fucking be it.
Skillster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think we all don't work to survive? There's a difference between caring where your money goes and being intentionally ignorant and selfish. Of course I'm mad it's people with these beliefs that can literally ruin people's livelihoods because of their selfishness. It's so pointless, you're literally fighting against your own self-interest and the self-interest of your entire country. And you think you're doing the right thing.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no right or wrong in this situation it's entirely subjective. You're speaking of morality.
It's not selfish to worry about your own personal needs before others when you can only care for yourself. I can afford my needs and a few of my wants. I should not by any means be resonsible for other people unless I decide upon it or am obligated, it's not right for a person to be made to shoulder the burdens of others without a choice.
Skillster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's literally the purpose of taxes. You are giving part of your money to the government so they can help the whole country. Your taxes are literally paid to help everyone.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I realize what taxes are for, I'm saying it's wrong for them to be used in such a manner.
librarychick77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is about morality.
If you're worried about buying the news game system, updating your TV, eating out all the time, etc...then it is about selfishness.
I am lucky enough to live in Canada. A close find of mine is 30 and has had cancer 7 times. If he lived in the states he'd be dead because there's no way to predict this shit and who has the savings to deal with all those treatments at 22 (when he got diagnosed the first time). Oh, and he can't work because of still being sick, nerve damage, intestinal issues, chrones disease, and lupus - which are a result of the cancer treatments.
But fuck him, right? You're healthy, so tough shit to everyone else who got the shitty end of the genetic lottery.
And yes, this pisses me off because I am talking about real human people. You are talking about some abstract and non-existant asshole, not realizing that it could easily be you tomorrow, or next year, or in 10 years.
I don't believe in wishing people ill. I hope you never have to experience why your Healthcare system is so fucked up...but maybe consider that every other country in the first world has a point and maybe it's you (personally, and the US as a whole) who has this wrong.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your system lets people die as well, Laura Hillier.
I don't wish people ill.
He wouldn't be dead, I was on my parents insurance until I turned 25. Our system also looks out for people such as he.
I don't even want to argue with you anymore, you shouldn't have anything to say about a system you don't live under. Stay in Canada and enjoy your system that works for your country. When it works for the United States then your opinion will matter.
If it's any consolation I worry about affording a house and getting married, not innane shit.
librarychick77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but not because they were unlucky enough to be broke. No Healthcare system is perfect, but my opinion is that we've got a more humane one. Comparatively.
You're assuming his parents would have had insurance. They wouldn't have been able to afford it and his dad's job wasn't the kind that would have had insurance.
I do enjoy our system, there are flaws for sure, but it's better. My point is that 'your way' isn't better, it's more expensive, has poorer outcomes statistically, and leaves the most vulnerable out to dry.
On a funny note, I have similar personal concerns. Although it's keeping our house and getting married. Not so different. But my SO has type 1 diabetes, so we'd be much worse off if we were in the US.
yaosio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The interstate system is funded by the federal government. This means any highways you don't personally use should be defunded, right?
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I explained this in another comment. Those highways benefit me by transporting goods.
frgtngbrandonmarshal ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:39:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone in the thread that's wondering what makes American so fucking backward... THIS right here. This is the shit we're dealing with. Vast percentages of the population have these incredibly complex reasoning skills. Vast percentages of the population have this profound lack of empathy. Look no further if you're still wondering how someone like Trump could get elected to be the POTUS. People like this are out there voting in droves. It's just really fuckin sad.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You assume an awful lot.
Why should I pay for someone else? Because it's the empathetic thing to do? I already have to care for myself and my family, so I should be responsible for other people because reasons?
The government is responsible for disadvantaged people, not me. The government should foot the bill without my money. My family has worked for everything they have, back when they got off the boat there were none of these programs. I could relate to you a number of anecdotes of my family growing up poor and with want. But you already have an idea of the person I am, so believe whatever you want.
-ILikePie- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:24:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.... Where do you think the government gets its money?
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The government should foot the bill without my money."
I don't agree with how my taxes are used.
-ILikePie- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...but how do you propose the specific use of your taxes? How much taxes do you pay that you alone could make a specific economic dent ? Is this special tax thing just for you or does everyone get to do it? f taxes are being paid then where else would the government get money to pay for it if everyone picked?
Jerico_Hill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:31:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the point everyone's trying to make here is that in terms of healthcare, you would be better off. With more money left in your pocket at the end of the day if America had universal healthcare. Not that it's the "right" thing to do or as some socialist dream. You and most other Americans would be financially better off under a universal healthcare system because you would personally pay less for the same level of care. It's a business decision at this point, not a declaration for your love of socialism.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, because then everyone pays into the system.
The system would then be fair, nobody would be getting a handout.
My ideal society is where everyone's needs and wants are met, so people can work to better themselves and society.
Endarion169 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easy, don't be a selfish asshole?
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's cool, wanting things to be fair is being a selfish asshole, makes sense.
Endarion169 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't give a shit about fairness. All you care about is to get as much as possible with no regard to the suffering of others.
You are just trying to somehow justify being a selfish asshole. Trying to convince us that it is perfectly fine to not give a shit about others. That you haveing a few dollars more in your pocket is absolutely more important then people dying because they can't afford medical care.
So yes, you are a selfish asshole who doesn't give a shit about fairness.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Insulting me really adds credence to your argument.
AGAIN, it's the government's fault and responsibility for its citizens, not mine.
Endarion169 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So basically, you are even worse. Not only are you unwilling to contribute anything. You are even taking the position, that the government should just magic money into existence to pay for things.
You are not only a selfish asshole. You are an idiot on top of it.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you're just insulting me and putting words in my mouth.
Let me write it in big letters for you.
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT DOES NOT ACCRUE ALL OF ITS MONEY FROM PERSONAL TAXES.
Endarion169 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, yes. As I said. You totally want them to pay, just as long as you don't have to contribute anything. It's all about someone else who should pay. You simply are unwilling to contribute to society. But naturally, you happily take all the advantages.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:40:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our socio-economic-ethnic-racial-political history makes us more susceptible to believe in scapegoats instead of fixing broken systems. The 1% takes advantage of said anxieties and makes huge profits.
This is why medical bankruptcy, private prisons, contracted prison labor, the war on drugs, Prohibition, Jim Crow, mistrust of police, etc have been things in our history.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:31:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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librarychick77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a tragedy.
There are people out there who care, and you might be able to qualify for some lower cost therapy. Consider asking your local social services department? Or free support lines?
sjhaines ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it's only going to get worse!
Cajim92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:10:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the UK ye sure we have to wait a few months for a knee replacement or what not but it is completely free
iamlowsound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck is right.
GWS2004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what happens when people vote Republican.
Dr-does-little ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would buy this, except he said it was an OPEN fracture. that means the skin is broken and the bones are sticking out. there is no way that isn't bothering her/freaking her the fuck out
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes, good point. Yeah, that definitely changes things and she had to have been in some serious pain (unless there's enough nerve damage that she couldn't feel it? I don't know enough about this).
. Someone out there was claiming an injury this serious wasn't bothering her. It sounds like the potential costs for care bothered her more. :(
FluffySharkBird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Besides, would you rather be someone doctors take seriously, or that hypochondriac who comes in for a tiny cut? I wait a few days to see if something gets better too.
oreosinmymouth ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:06:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forgot to mention both pieces were clearly moveable. I could easily move both sides of her jaw independent of each other. Kinda like those vampires in Blade.
danjwright ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:52:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Domestic violence? Maybe she didn't present initially for fear of getting an abusive partner into trouble.
oreosinmymouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Def a possibility.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've never been without insurance or reasonable means to pay for medical expenses, huh? This isn't something new among those either without insurance or without the means to afford the expenses after insurance is applied. Even a few thousand can cripple a family. It's less that she lacks the understanding that she needed medical care, and more that she had the hope she wouldn't need it.
oreosinmymouth ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a presumptuous one aren't ya? I have been without medical coverage before starting working. She was a victim of assault. Many states including mine pay for assault victims medical care. She also has Medicaid which covers some of the costs too. She would have been mostly if not fully covered. This was not a chronic illness. This is equal to having a compound fracture leg or being shot. It's not something anyone with half a brain would put off. Also she could sell her iPhone she was using to help if all else fails. Please think before you speak.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your first post did not mention the possibility of assault. In fact, it wasn't until another redditor brought up the possibility that you were like "oh yeah that was probably it".
Your first post was "WTF why didn't this lady get medical attention right away?", which obviously demonstrated how little you understood what it is like to have medical care out of reach.
oreosinmymouth ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical care was not out of reach for her. Do you know how to read? Her procedure would have been covered. She stated she was punched. It was assault. Also I'm not sure what comment you're talking about. The one you're referencing is prob the one about fear of retaliation from her attacker. I'd advise reading some dr seuss. It's more your level.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That you resort to childish insults shows how immature you are. And it seems you are the one in need of reading comprehension lessons, since your first comment:
has nothing about the assault or any other "facts" you are citing. Not to mention you made that top comment, in the context of a medical professional having to explain basic common sense or knowledge to an adult. Hence, your top comment is interpreted as "I can't believe this lady didn't understand she needed immediate medical attention!"
However, you are arguing that facts later discussed (and not mentioned in your top comment and not even originating from you) are relevant to your top comment. But if that is the case, then the context of your top comment is completely opposite of the AskReddit question, as the context now reads as "This patient was experiencing domestic violence and was afraid to seek medical attention for her broken jaw." That is not a "WTF what is this adult thinking!?" that is "This is a sad example of the effects of Domestic Violence."
Do try to refrain from childish insults in the future, if you cannot even keep track of the substance and meaning of your own words.
oreosinmymouth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man sorry I seemed to have triggered you. No one said this was definitely domestic violence. You do alot of inferring and seem to think that qualifies as facts. Typical lack of critical thinking. And to assume someone doesn't know what it's like to not have health care when you don't know them is foolish. Anyway have a nice day. I'm done. I have to get back to work. You prob don't
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment now:
A couple comments above:
Again, you will want to keep track of the substance and meaning of what you write. You will also want to look up the definition of "triggered", as I am not the one freaking out and getting angry, or making childish comments about the status of my employment and work.
oreosinmymouth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:17:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geez man. Do I have to spoon feed everything to you? Assault is not the same as domestic violence. Yes the other comment we were talking about possibility of her being afraid of her attacker. Again.. Possibility. Possibility does not mean definitely.
SomethigIronic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently broke my thumb and thought it was just jarred so I didn't got get it checked for two weeks
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think if your bone was sticking out it would be a different story...
the_north_place ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke bones in my hand and cracked a vertebrate as a teenager. Never did anything about them at the time, they just hurt for awhile and eventually it went a way.
cupfullabeetlejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a broken finger that I will never get checked out until the day I get insurance :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just get Ronnie and Blaze to staple this bitch back together, it'll be fine.
juanthemad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same case as mine. Took a fall a couple of years ago. I suspected my right knee took a big hit, but didn't really pay much attention to it since I don't have insurance, and not really earning much. Now, I can feel my knee creaking every now and then (though no pain yet)
Ihateloops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it doesn't bother her, why did she come in about it?
Grosserly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can a broken jaw not bother you?
Mako_Milo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was she a farmer?
lilsmudge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah...to be fair, some of us are just dumb when it comes to pain. I've broken my leg twice, fractured my ankle, broken my wrist and most of my fingers and toes in various sports and dumbass related events. Not once have I immediately sought medical care. I usually laugh, try to limp it off, feel really sick and sit back down and then the feeling passes and forget about it for a few days. I only really wind up going when the massive bruise and swelling won't go away. After the initial queasiness, I've never experienced that much pain from a break and...also I'm dumb.
moration ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in cancer and regularly have patients that treat their cancer with "diet and nutrition". They come to us after that doesn't work.
Yellowfangs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a poor college student with no insurance who has been sick for 4 consecutive months, I can understand the "I'll get better" mindset. I know. It's time to take out the insurance loan.
realmofgeorge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure I broke my toe during a party considering how much it hurt and the condition it's in now but I just don't like to bother people when it comes to ailments
Wickedd_Witch ยท 339 points ยท Posted at 01:54:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had to explain to a friend of mine that sex doesn't "give women curves," referring to breasts, ass, and the curve of their sides. He literally thought that was the only way. This was after he called this little 10 year old girl a slut because she was already starting to develop.
HarbingerDe ยท 247 points ยท Posted at 01:57:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What. The. Fuck?
Why_you_no_like ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:51:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That thinking could have come from his parents or grandparents. I was once told that when a girl starts to develop a belly that it meant she was sexually active. It was called "peter belly". This was something my mom learned in the fifties and girls were judged by the fact that their belly's were no longer flat. (I laughed at her in disbelief)
Wayward-Soul ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 13:29:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend in nursing school vehemently claims that her boobs grew after losing her virginity just because she had sex. Um, no.
Edit: boobs. But books works too.
mttdesignz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 14:36:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, Nursing school textbooks are already big as they are, I can't imagine them growing too..
CrossBreedP ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:33:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....Is this person still your friend?
Wickedd_Witch ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:12:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol no. He was the son of my moms friend and they are now estranged. He is quite an idiot. I believe now he has like kids and is like 19/20ish.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a 20 year old, it amazes me how idiotic and ignorant some of my peers are
Raineythereader ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:37:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a slut. /s
creepysnowflake ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:39:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom thought the same thing.
adevilnguyen ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:57:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Older Vietnamese people have this misconception... if a girl has big breasts its because someone has been squeezing them.
Edit: older
Tea_Junkie ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 10:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm a G cup, someone has been strangling mine!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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adevilnguyen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:08:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sorry, guess I should have said older Vietnamese people.
i_is_lurking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, he's right. I heard the same thing when i was a teen (about 10 years ago) from kids my age.
Started massaging/squeezing my ex's breasts and they got bigger from being swollen.
mttdesignz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:34:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
does he thinks men uses their penises to pump the woman?
Wickedd_Witch ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 16:32:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol idk! The amount of guys that I have talked to that think their dicks have like magical powers is incredible.
I'm gay and you could not even begin to imagine how many times guys have said to me, "well I bet if you let me fuck you you would be straight!" Like.. no dude, that's not how any of this works.
BipedSnowman ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:11:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god I thought you were a gay men and I
I THOUGHT THEY WERE ALL TRYING TO BADLY HIT ON YOU AND YOU WERE OBLIVIOUS. (I mean they were, but it's a lot funnier to me imagining a gay guy turn down a slew of curious straight men because he was so oblivious)
Wickedd_Witch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha that would be pretty hilarious! Haha pity the gay man who doesn't take up that opportunity!
lovehate1026 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:45 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jajajaja that might be the most retarded thing so far. I dunno.
TheCookieSage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:41 on January 28, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I stay away from AskReddit...
myne ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 05:15:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... I was told sex whore moans do..?
TheEwokApocalypse ยท 4300 points ยท Posted at 21:44:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, not a doctor but I work at a hospital. We had someone come into A&E because they needed their nails redoing... They genuinely thought it was a good idea to go to accident and emergency to have their fake nails taken off and redone because they had gotten too long and become uncomfortable.
Desert_Unicorn ยท 1792 points ยท Posted at 23:09:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talk about being high maintenance
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 05:12:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! Just do the nails and quit complaining
cindel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:46:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What do you mean 'no'? I want to speak to your manager!"
Sam-Gunn ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:02:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We're part of NHS."
"gasp"
OneGoodRib ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea why, but I read this and immediately heard a sitcom laugh track in my head. Maybe I should sleep more.
roxinpunch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:16:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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spbcnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just being high.
ShystyMcShysterson ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 23:50:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ED nurse here. I looked after a lady who came in because her false lashes were causing her pain. No infections or anything. She just couldn't get them off.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 00:59:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ShystyMcShysterson ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 02:33:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We didn't actually know what to do, because nobody working that day had ever had individual lashes! We were basically like... "maybe go back to the beautician and ask them how to get them off?"
WhatsThatSkaSong ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:15:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of scary. I figured a hospital would at least maybe google that to see if they could help. Eye infections are a real threat. If someone gets their arm stuck in a tailpipe, do you send them to a mechanic?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:36:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Your son needs open heart surgery."
But he only had his arm caught in a tailpipe!
"It's a good thing we caught this trouble early, ma'am."
Maverick8787 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:47:08 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally speaking, emergency departments treat emergencies. Fake eyelashes aren't really an emergency.
KnotARealGreenDress ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:19:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it just called "olive oil"? Or coconut oil? Oil-based makeup remover?
MorallyDeplorable ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure they do, it's just not a good idea if the lashes are attached where they're supposed to be.
TheMercifulPineapple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:06:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had them once and I DID pull some of my lashes out because the coconut oil I kept applying to them wasn't doing a god damn thing. They were bothering me so much I was beyond reason at that point.
Never doing that again.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oils or Vaseline are really good for removing makeup, they may work for lashes I'd imagine :)
koidivision ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:06:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did the exchange go, when they were told different?
xanplease ยท -191 points ยท Posted at 23:36:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MY guess is they were on
MedicareMedicaid and didn'tGIFGAF about a hospital bill anyway.Edit: Holy downvotes Batman!
I_POTATO_PEOPLE ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 23:56:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A&E being a European term I find that unlikely.
TheScottymo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:39:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A&E is an Australian thing too.
DongLaiCha ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:19:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? I'm Aussie and A&E is an unusual acronym to me.
UrethraX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:53:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto
TheScottymo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I hear it every time someone's injured. Maybe it's a regional thing.
T2ChinaJasmine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:27:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aussie here, have never heard of it referred to as A&E.
mainman879 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:49:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean GAF not GIF
Danokitty ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:26:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps they just have a beef with some Medicare user they had a battle with in r/highqualitygifs
JB-from-ATL ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, I hear they like meta
xanplease ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give 'ih fuck apparently.
whirl-pool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So how do you pronounce GAF?
ok_to_poop_in_pants ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:19:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medicare... so they were a senior citizen?
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:02:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medicare isn't just for seniors. Also for disabled folks.
am far from senior age, on Medicare
xanplease ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medicaid Medicare, tomato potato. Bleh.
Gravesh ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...
CitJournalist ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:24:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the same sort of person who calls 911 when McDonalds is out of chicken nuggets.
noms_on_pizza ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:23:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that lady called 911 when they refused to give back her money because they didn't have nuggets and she just wanted her money back.
Kigarta ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:35:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More than one person had called 911 over a fast food error.
noms_on_pizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. That's the only one I had ever heard of.
TriggerHappyEwok ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:23:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, this is not related to your funny comment, but I think our usernames go very well together.
el___diablo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:26:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should have.
Then handed her a bill for $10,000.
qfor ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate your suspenseful writing style.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair,
MistakesTasteGreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:39:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you have to take the
quistodes ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's A&E then it's probably the UK so healthcare is free at the point of access
kellydean1 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:26:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nails REDID. FTFY.
WikiWantsYourPics ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Redone
EmergencyChocolate ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:45:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have triaged that bitch behind everyone available and made her wait for 36 hours for treatment because FUCK HER.
GuruLakshmir ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:16:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, I have to go down to the ED recently because I got a body fluid in my eye at work recently (hospital policy). I felt bad being there when a man was telling that his wife was in pain (she kept weakly motioning for him to calm down) and I went in front of them.
I can't imagine the sort of people that treat the ED like some sort of grocery store or whatever.
bedroom_fascist ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:53:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, this is a very typical type of reaction from hospital staff. They get burned out, and the first casualty is often empathy for patients.
This is simply a person who lacks perspective. Keep the rage for social injustice, Chief.
Isotopian ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:02:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but someone with fake nails isn't a patient, they're a burden on the whole system. I get what you're saying, but you're defending the parasites thinking you're helping the host.
bedroom_fascist ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 05:35:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Parasite?"
Holy shit, are you under 30 and have utterly no clue about what a total asshat you are.
Isotopian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually precisely 30, and I'm perfectly aware of my assholery, it's not an accident. I'm also correct in this case - try offering a counter argument, or explain why I'm wrong, instead of making wild assumptions that are irrelevant to the situation at hand.
bedroom_fascist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you get over yourself, you realize that "being right" is nowhere near as significant as "being kind."
There's an awful lot of angry young assholes.
It's nowhere near as cool as they always imagine. You don't look 'tough,' you look limited.
Isotopian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So far, I've stated that fake nails are not an acceptable reason to use emergency services, as it's a literal burden on the system.
You called me an asshat and went off on a tangent about how clearly I'm a jerk and get off on how cool it makes me look.
Consider this - you've been a jerk to a stranger on the internet who's father just died, in the pursuit of "being kind."
Perhaps you should reconsider your self image if you believe that you're the kind one, and I'm the asshat.
bedroom_fascist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sincerely sorry for your loss.
I don't agree with your characterization. No one believes that changing nails is a medical emergency.
The rest is not really going to yield positive exchange, so would you like to just drop it?
Isotopian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Appreciate the consideration.
turkfeberrary ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:03:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 32 and I took a guy to the hospital for a "seizure" because he got caught breaking into a car. He was so sick that during one of his "seizures" on the way to the hospital he helped us move him into a more comfortable position on the gurney. Also, a miracle happened! After "seizing" for several minutes, upon arrival at the emergency room he said "I'm leaving" and got up and left. No postictal shit or anything! WE SAVED HIM!
Parasites, breh. They exist and live among us.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What country do you live in?
UpInYourKraken ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:29:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nails redoing? Must be a medical term... nope. Just dumb.
MargotFenring ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope they just lopped them off with scissors and billed her $1000.
swapsrox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's socialized health care for you...
Matt872000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not American and I don't know much about hospitals. What is A&E?
CatBedParadise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look on the bright side, she didn't call 911 to get an ambulance to bring her there.
patentolog1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A&E? Britain? Well, but your healthcare is free there. So why are you complaining?
waveydavey1953 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the CPT code for that?
JohnFightsDragons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happened in an A&E so somewhere in the UK right?
Sounds like something that would happen in Doncaster
magicsmoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor: I'm so sorry. There's nothing we can do. We've scheduled your amputation surgery for this afternoon.
thefebreeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do fake nails become too long lol
Jmanorama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why didn't triage tell them to gtfo? That's what they're there for? Or even the receptionist??
Spikito1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a guy who comes in once a month or so to have his ears cleaned out because he doesn't like using Q tips.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A&E: it was both Art and Entertainment.
Osklington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you kicked their asses out.
[deleted] ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 07:35:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I have 2 of these stories. First, I had to explain to my 70-year-old grandmother that women's bellybuttons have nothing to do with conception. She thought if you didn't have a bellybutton you couldn't have a baby.
Second. When I was in my 20s, a coworker about the same age came into the office looking distraught. I asked if she was ok. She told me that she thought she might need to see a doctor. After a few more questions she tells me that she and her boyfriend were messing around. He was fingering her when suddenly she couldn't breathe, lost control of her muscles, her heart was pounding so fast, etc. and when it was over she was kind of weak and flushed. She thought it might have been a seizure. I got to inform her that she had an orgasm.
cbcfan ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 12:26:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great news! Kudos to her boyfriend!
xgravity23 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:10:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has your grandmother ever seen someone who DIDN'T have a belly button?!
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:44:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She didn't have one after she had surgery which is how the conversation came up.
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, interesting!
tjandthebeatles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:34:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad doesn't have one anymore due to a hernia surgery.
isfturtle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:46:53 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well your dad can't get pregnant then.
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting!! My dad had laparoscopic hernia surgery, and they actually went through his belly button for one of the cameras/devices.
ChipsAndTapatio ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:25:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My goodness, your poor coworker. I bet you really improved her life with that information!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:31:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was certainly a relief that she didn't have some health crisis going on - although I wanted to go bleach my brain after hearing more details than I wrote here
UberUSB ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not wrong. If you don't have a belly button, you don't exist, hence, no kids.
Black_Lannister ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people don't have belly buttons due to different types of hernias and such. Don't be so insensitive. They are still people! /s
UberUSB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? People can not have belly buttons? Or is the /s for everything?
norsish ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:24:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/s for everything is the only safe way to proceed.
Black_Lannister ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:22:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The /s is for giving you shit about saying people without belly buttons wouldn't exist.
Some people don't have belly buttons, dude.
Donnelly182 ยท 7749 points ยท Posted at 21:06:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a Doctor but when I was in Afghanistan a local man came up to us on patrol with his hand wrapped in a sheet. He was in visible pain and was asking for a doctor, so we got the medic to go see him and I helped unwrap his hand and it was just fucking huge. He'd cut his hand very badly and, for whatever reason, kept it submerged in diesel for three days before seeking help. His hand appeared to have soaked up a shit load of diesel, or it was just infected to fuck but it resembled a water balloon and lightly touching it caused it to piss liquid. It was naaaasty.
whiskeytaang0 ยท 1620 points ยท Posted at 22:05:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if people know this, but diesel fuel will start growing shit after awhile. God only knows what hitched a ride into that cut.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbial_contamination_of_diesel_fuel
buttery_shame_cave ยท 1008 points ยท Posted at 22:38:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yup, that's basically what happened with my dad - the lube oil that got into a puncture wound on his hand had some passengers along for the ride and a couple of them were fucking wicked nasty. he was legitimately concerned that they were going to float the option of just amputating to save him, because the infection he developed was insane and nothing they had could do more than slow it down - they had to create a custom antibiotics cocktail for him.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:27:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Farmerman1379 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:08:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean WD in WD-40 stands for Water Displacement. The majority of the human body is made up of water so it's obviously not a good idea to get that stuff in an orifice.
Dirus ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:16:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, now I know how fucking dangerous it is to get this shit into a wound and an eye or whatever. Is there a way to handle it if it happens by accident?
Farmerman1379 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there's a couple things you should do. If you get something in your eye that shouldn't be in your eye you should flush it out/hold a water soaked cloth on it for 15 minutes to help get foreign matter out. Should also call poison control immediately if swallowed. And I'm not sure of the reasoning but you're typically never supposed to induce vomiting to try to get rid of it if you did swallow it (liquids anyways). Learned that from a very young age growing up on a farm with liquids like pesticides, herbicides, WD-40, anhydrous, etc.. being common. And be cautious around acids, that shit can burn your skin. And also if you're in an environment with a lot of fumes with little airflow you need to get fresh air obviously. Some farmers have died because of working in silos or bunker silos with silage that's fermenting. The silage puts out a ton of gas fairly quickly and it's heavier than air, so it displaces the air and asphyxiates you. Same thing goes for being in a garage with a running car with the garage doors closed or using aerosol cans indoors. A lot of shit can kill you or harm you if you don't know what you're doing. Some gases are odorless while some like anhydrous and gasoline vapors have a very strong smell btw.
Pretty much everything has a warning label on it with instructions of what to do if something that shouldn't happen does occur. But yeah, if something gets in your eye, flush that shit out. You only get 2 eyes and you can cause permanent damage to them pretty easily if not taken care of
thisnameismeta ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because of what vomiting up those substances can do to your esophagus. If it's in your stomach you can get some neutralizing agents in there or get it pumped, but just vomiting it up is going to burn your throat to hell.
Tini_531 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medstudent here, it's true. It can cause some serious damage to your esophagus/mouth/teeth to vomit up certain substances. That and usually the induced vomiting doesn't clear out the stomach entirely anyway, so you have to have your stomach pumped either way. Better to pump it out without extra damage or give a neutralizing substance.
xxnekochan666xx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does that also have to do with the chemicals interacting with your stomach acid thereby making it stronger?
Kirboid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always heard that the odor from gasoline is artificial, just so you can notice when there is a leak.
HenryGorman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you are thinking of natural gas, though perhaps it applies to petrol too?
INTERNET_RETARDATION ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:34:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Distilled octane and hexane definitely smell like gasoline on their own though. You're probably thinking of natural gas like /r/HenryGorman says.
inkyheart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:20:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh that freaks me out!! A while ago I accidentally sprayed WD-40 in my eye and I called poison control and they just said rinse thoroughly, and thankfully it didn't get infected. Makes me appreciate my eyesight more!
95percentconfident ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 04:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And we are rapidly approaching a time where no custom antibiotic cocktail would have saved the arm.
Simba7 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:42:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Antibiotic resistance of rare strains of bacteria are not a huge concern. It's the common stuff that's developing resistance.
PHealthy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rare? Most likely it was C. perfringens or P. aeruginosa both extremely common and easily acquire resistance.
heiferly ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just seeing the names of these little buggers makes all the hair on my arms and neck stand on end.
ciny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm kind of afraid to ask but - what do the little buggers do?
heiferly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't have those two in particular. I just had the intensely bad fortune to have bacteremia (blood infection) with sepsis three times in 2016. Once complicated with a totally unrelated PE, and once complicated by (related) septic eboli in my lungs. So when I see those bacterial or fungal creepy little names, it really strikes fear into my heart at this point. I'm really hoping to have a better track record this year. Having sepsis feels more awful than it sounds (if that's possible); I don't recommend it.
ETA: My culprits were yeast, serratia marcescens, MSSA (the "good" kind of staph), and something I'm forgetting at the moment (I had a two-fer one of the times I was septic).
some_random_kaluna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rub those fuckers on a piece of 80% pure copper and watch their membranes break apart in minutes.
Victorian-era medical tech is making a big comeback.
95percentconfident ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point. Thanks for a most enjoyable dive into the literature on Abx susceptibility in rare species of bacteria.
ColdAstarte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
linkadge for the lazy?
95percentconfident ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I couldn't find any one paper that spells it out exactly, but this passage from Davies and Davies, 2010 sums up nicely what I found:
Sorry if that link is behind a paywall. One caveat that I thought of is that a lot of our genome sequencing has only been done decades after widespread antibiotics use started. It seems to me that it would take some serious bioinformatics research to determine that these genes are truly endogenous and not due to some horizontal gene transfer event that happened between the introduction of antibiotics and the advent of genome sequencing. Another confounding issue is that some antibiotics are produced naturally by microbes in the environment and these environmentally derived molecules could give rise to resistance independent of any anthropogenic antibiotics induced resistance.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:22:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But we are approaching (albeit not as rapidly) the future of robotic prosthetics comparable to real arms :/
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a bit further off?
3D printed cloned limbs and organs.
GameMusic ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:54:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For possible future reference what was the cocktail and how did they decide what the mix would be?
wztnaes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:34:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but I'm a doctor. It would basically be just 2 or 3 different antibiotics (likely given intravenously) with different spectrums of action. Probably informed by microbiology tests of the wound site - the lab grows a bacterial culture of samples taken from the infected area and tests available antibiotics to find which ones the bacteria are resistant or sensitive to.
Blahblahyousay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the info. I was treated with a anti biotic cocktail 6 years ago and that was how it was administered. It took a month and was so aggressive my veins collapsed... amongst other delights but I haven't needed antibiotics since, used them all๐. I๐N.H.S
the_mouse_of_the_sea ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is he?
buttery_shame_cave ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:13:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hand's about 97% function. they really worked some miracles. the scars are fucking outrageous tho.
puterTDI ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:01:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well lubricated.
PeteFord ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:00:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you gotta ask yourself, "if it can survive in diesel, then..."
mister_bmwilliams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diesel isn't a great antiseptic.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:25:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disgustingly relevant username.
Isogen_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like an episode of House.
I-seddit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:39:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically gasoline is a cleaning fluid...
OhMyTruth ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:32:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cleans non-polar chemicals. It's not a disinfectant.
CultistLemming ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but other petrolium products like petrolium jelly can be used to prevent maggot infestations in a wound
euaann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this was a bad story to read whilst eating a banana
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 04:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the Fuck Do You think a custom antibiotic cocktail is and why would you rather have your hand cut off?
DrakeFloyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the commenter you're replying to but my gut reaction to custom cocktail was "sounds expensive" Idk how much I'd pay to save a hand, particularly a non-dominant hand - so I'm gonna keep away from diesel and hope I never find out.
Farmerman1379 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Air can kill you, but you're not going to stay away from that either
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Howe expensive do you think it would be? The only way it would cost more than a few hundred would be if you don't have insurance, and even then it wouldn't be in the 10s of thousands. You wouldn't spend 8K (a randomly high number) to keep one of your hands? Wtf.
duck-duck--grayduck ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:06:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, the side effects of antibiotics can be quite unpleasant, but compared to losing a limb... It's not like the one where your skin falls off is even very common.
heiferly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And really, when it's necrotizing fasciitis vs. Stephens-Johnson ... six of one, half dozen of the other?
duck-duck--grayduck ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:37:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy named Steven Johnson, and I said to him once, "Steve, whenever I see your full name somewhere, I picture your skin falling off." He thinks I'm weird now.
Juicedupmonkeyman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:55:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
ngwoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd rather lose a hand than take some medicine?
motonnerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would you like some ibuprofen to deal with the pain of the hand? Or better yet, how about some legit barbituates to actually make you not suffer, since you're in a hospital and that's one of the rare times you can actually enjoy them (are barbituates still used? I think so)
But if all this modern medicine has you worried, there's always penicillin!
SnowDesertGoddess ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 01:32:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god you may have just shed light on why I caught C. Difficile out of nowhere at age 19.
Thank. You.
Seriously.
heiferly ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is SUPREMELY contagious and the spores hang out all over the place after an infected person uses the bathroom ... which is about all they get done doing the whole time they're infected ... which can last months. Most likely you caught it from using a bathroom that had been used previously by a person infected with CDiff and not properly quarantined and sterilized with chlorine bleach. (Alcohol hand sanitizer isn't effective against CDiff, so people who use that instead of soap and water are more likely to spread the infection if they have it, but even the most careful person can end up infecting others inadvertently.)
PenguinsAteMyToast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wait so are you saying that i can contract this from someone else after using the toilet? god dammit
heiferly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if you're at the hospital, they literally put up a sign and "decommission" a bathroom the second you're done using it if you have CDiff, until they can get someone to go in and specially clean and sterilize the bathroom. But people with CDiff don't live in hospitals the whole time they're sick; in fact, people with healthy immune systems may never step foot in a hospital the whole time they're infected with it. So they're out and about in the regular world, using toilets in bathrooms that aren't getting immediately shut down and may literally NEVER get a cleaning thorough enough to kill CDiff (worst case scenario, obv). I had it for six months, and held my diarrhea on 2 hour car rides to avoid using public restrooms and potentially infecting others, but I doubt most people are so considerate.
smanta02 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:14 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had C. Difficile. Toronto hospitals made me use the public ER bathrooms, KNOWING I tested positive. No one would give me a commode. I asked them to put a sign on the bathroom at the very least, and make sure no one used it. None of the nurses cared. It was disturbing... they were educated about the infectious bacteria.. I had to plead repeatedly to use an isolated toilet.
My C. Difficile infection showed up after I took antibiotics. I was told that everyone has the bacteria in them, but it's kept in check from over-colonizing by "good" bacteria.
I had the infection for over 1 month before anyone took me seriously enough to do tests, because of my age & stature. I was 19 at the time. I had to go to the ER every other day for IV fluids because of endless bowel movements. By the time they caught it, I was going to the bathroom 42 times per day.
Since the infection, although my stools no longer test positive, my immune system has been destroying my nerves and organs, 5 years later. Severely disabled with a low quality of life. Who knows how many people could have been infected from using the same bathroom.
As a side note though, I do NOT understand how the people I live with did NOT get sick.
SnowDesertGoddess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very interesting! Thank you kindly for sharing those details with me/us all.
Unfortunately, as much as I hate to say it, I do not recall any procedures of putting a Bathroom in quarantine even though they had me in the Maternity Ward as an Overflow patient. (Quite common in this area of Canada, at least)
What I do find even more odd, is that I was never told, "C. Difficile is still living and contagious in your system," let alone, "This is what C. Diff is or does," except the vague explanation of transferring from person to person in Nursing Homes and Paliative Care, if at all. Google helped me learn further about the virus about 4mos ago when I began seeing a Chyropractor and he read it in my previous medical documents. Only then had I actually learned I caught the virus..
Nursing staff and Docs were puzzled someone my age and stature caught the virus in the first place, although at the same time, it didn't sound it was worth trying to figure out where I caught it from, either. I don't visit nursing homes, because many family members work as Home Care Assistants and refuse to put their own loved ones through such a thing. Since that's all I could ever come up with, even with a .ca version of Google, I didn't learn much on avoidance until this thread of comments.
Now that you mention it being this contagious, I'm definitely going full Howie Mandel when I need a public washroom. Mega Merci.
HaydosMang ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:17:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate?
BigYearColorado ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:56:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucked a Transformer.
SnowDesertGoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no clue to this date how it was contracted, but the likelihood of it being through diesel fuel would be quite plausible if it's so common to be tainted. Especially considering I used to help my best friend work her gas station shift, since her boss was her grandfather didn't the mind extra free help. We've shared smokes and everything; probably just as bad as a contaminated toilet-- if, like I said-- tainted diesel truly is so common.
The whole topic just set off a major curiosity bell in my mind, that's all. Unfortunately, the whole ordeal doesn't seem the easiest to avoid contracting once again.. Although, I'm sure a compromised immune system probably didn't help avoiding it in the first place. After this past year, my immune system's strength has been my top priority. That shit was scary, no pun intended.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:52:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing happens to jet fuel. We have to test for that shit at certain intervals.
SwedishBoatlover ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, jet fuel (Jet-A and Jet-A1) is essentially diesel. All flight mechanics I know (I know a few seeing as I went to school to be one myself) drive diesel cars, because before they start major work on a plane they have to drain the tanks. That goes straight into their cars...
UnblurredLines ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:57:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it's been artificially colored differently! Surely something that's been colored to be distinguishable can't be the same?!
blacksteveman ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:39:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does Jet A/A1 have good lubrication properties? I know with JP8 it can give you problems on injector pumps due to it being shitty as a lube.
PwnMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can always add a lubricant. With ULSD and an injection pump that wasn't designed for it I add a small bottle of 2-stroke oil at every fill up. I would imagine something like that would be a good idea if your using jet fuel in a diesel engine.
GrandLordThoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the other fueler!
hframz ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:53:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u wot m8
cocochubu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget that stuff that goes into the chem trails!
duck-duck--grayduck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, that shit can't even melt steel beams.
GreatWhiteCorvus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The green goo!
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jet fuel can't sterilize C. diff.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but it doesn't have to. It just has to significantly weaken it.
Jesus_Shaves_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:00:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a truck come in to the shop with intermittent fuel problems. Took apart the fuel sending unit and saw this.
GeraldoLucia ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What am I looking at? It looks like moss...
Jesus_Shaves_ ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:48:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda-sorta. This is what happens when a small amount of water gets in the fuel system of a bio-diesel truck. Bound to happen in Florida, and if that truck sits in the heat for a long time (see: Florida) the bio part (living stuff ~sort of~) starts to grow. Eventually it clogs all the filters and you have to remove the tank, drain it and purge all the lines. Real headache. Happens every summer to about 5-10 of our trucks.
You can get a special additive called Biocide that kills this stuff but we don't use it.
Edit: Here is another one from August.
framerotblues ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a thread recently over in /r/hydro about using UV light to kill off algae blooms. Wonder if diesel tanks should come with a 12V UV light these days.
Jesus_Shaves_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:28:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an interesting idea, but I doubt it would work
SergeTheMunger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ford super duty?
Jesus_Shaves_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember to tell you the truth. Ford or a Chevy 3500
Donnelly182 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:08:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't aware at the time but the Medic explained to us after about that link. Can't imagine what his hand must have felt like.
WWJLPD ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:15:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL. not that I was planning on treating wounds with it but still nice to know
SwedishBoatlover ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should see the slurry I drain out of my tanks in my boat sometimes. It's a dark gray gooey slurry that barely even smells like diesel. However, since I started using Grotamar 82 there has been a significant difference.
As a side note, the bacteria doesn't actually grow in the diesel itself, they grow in water suspended in the diesel.
SomeGuysFly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
where the fuck would anyone get the idea to use diesel fuel as a cleaning agent or whatever? Like what the hell was he trying to accomplish submerging his hand in FUEL? Is that like some misunderstood battlefield medic technique?
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean gasoline probably would have worked OK as a disinfectant. It's not a great choice, and you definitely don't want to dunk your whole hand in it, but swabbing a bit on if you don't have any alcohol, peroxide, or iodine isn't a terrible choice. Hell, even the diesel likely wouldn't have been a terrible idea if he'd lit it first and let most of it burn before swabbing it; the heat would probably have destroyed anything growing in it.
Soaking a wound in the stuff, on the
otheramputated hand, was a terrible idea. Besides the shit growing in it, there's a LOT of benzene in diesel (and gasoline), which gets into the blood, seeps into the bone marrow, and fucks up the tissue permanently, causing anemia.SomeGuysFly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so the idea is that gasoline is so caustic that it can kill bacteria, so better than nothing in an absolute emergency, i.e. stranded in the mountains days away from medical resources?
DontBanMeBro8121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:26 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like "caustic enough" but yep. Just... Don't fucking soak anything in it... Like ever. Unless you want to permanently fuck up your bone marrow.
potato_ships ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ewww I didn't know that, that's a lot of bad stuff that can grow in it.
Reworked ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
all I needed to read was the first in the list being 'clostridium'... that's never a good start to a list of bacteria :S
bluecadetthr33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i worked on diesel engines for a few years, and what im gathering from your comment is that he should have subsequently soaked his hand in Algae-X?
usernamecheckmates ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ya learn somethin new errrday
seriously though thats pretty interesting
SuperSulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's how we got the Lambent in Gears of War.
teuchuno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aye we had diesel bug on a ship I was working on. Coated all the filters etc, was an absolute bastard to get rid of.
A lot more common these days as during the refining process a lot more sulphur is removed. So the products of combustion no longer cause quite as much acid rain, but the sulphur had an anti bacterial action which is now absent from the fuel. Ergo, more diesel bug.
Throwawaylikeme90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold up... Aspergillius grows in Diesel?
You're telling me I could make diesel sake?
Can't imagine that alcohol would go down that smooth, but still. Damn nature, you crazy.
GrandLordThoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why the military trains fuel specialists, which everyone makes fun of until their generator is empty at 0300.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A couple worker of mine got flesh eating bacteria after working in an oil well in dubai for Haliburton. His whole crew had to strip down asked and burn their clothes while a hazmat team came and costed them in a blue substance They were quarantined for at least 3 days.
The bacteria is used to keep an oil well from deteriorating.
GrumpyBert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a biologist, and I should know, but the truth is that I would have never imagined something like this... diesel fuel becoming infectious... live to learn!
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 1823 points ยท Posted at 21:35:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. I know the chances had to have been miniscule, but did he keep the hand?
Donnelly182 ยท 2106 points ยท Posted at 21:39:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly don't know. There wasn't much we could do on the ground, so we called in a helicopter and sent him back to Bastion, to the Role 3 Hospital. I can't imagine he managed to keep it.
[deleted] ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 23:55:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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expostulation ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 01:30:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The hospital in camp Bastion was first fucking class. They saved my mate who was shot in the side with an AK round.
[deleted] ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 01:55:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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eazolan ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 03:46:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any recommendations?
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:02:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, that sounds pretty interesting.
RadicalDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
!RemindMe 2 days
iznotiz ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's where Captain John Watson practiced!
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:40:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
The_Dirtiest_Doc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:54:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm at shorab right now, it was formerly bastion. The ana have a hospital but it's ungodly horrifying. All we have is a roll 1+, and a FST.
Drew00013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:22 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the...pleasure...of going to the Role 3 on Kandahar, and it was a super nice hospital. The Ophthalmologist (Navy Captain) I saw was awesome, but Kandahar is the absolute worst. I spent ~2 years on Dwyer and liked it, but heard Leatherneck was shitty.
ExpatJundi ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Balad was better fight me irl.
Compoundwyrds ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:28:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Role 3 = everything they can do at MGH in the middle of a fucking warzone. God I love AMEDD.
[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 02:12:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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bad_at_hearthstone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:50:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Immer unterbricht mich jemand bei der Arbeit!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:04:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was looking for this.
Wilhelm_III ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:12:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My only experience with Bastion is in Overwatch and an indie game by the same name.
Please explain?
Max_TwoSteppen ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:04:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other comments seem to indicate they're talking about a "Camp Bastion" which apparently has an insanely good hospital. I'm not sure how that fits with the tone of that comment though.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:17:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Max_TwoSteppen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:19:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right but everything else I'm reading in this thread indicates it was home to some of the best surgeons in the entire US military.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Wilhelm_III ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:06:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see! Thank you and /u/Max_TwoSteppen for being kind enough to explain it for me.
Kviesgaard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:40:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's a US military base in the helmand province of Afghanistan.
jessthedog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was 3 camps combined, bastion was the British site, leatherneck was the US site and shoraback (I think that's how you spell it) was the Afghan site. BLS
mint-bint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Camp Bastion was an oasis in the desert, the comfortable and cushty alternative to being out on the ground. Western luxury items, aircon etc.
From anywhere for hundreds of miles in the vicinity, going to Bastion was an improvement.
Kreiger0 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:58:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He got to keep it, alright. In a jar.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:36:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DredPRoberts ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless all that is left is his left.
MistakesTasteGreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now he's fair to middlin'
Donnelly182 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:17:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mmmm, pickled hand.
Bronn_McClane ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure they might have had to amputate it, but I don't see why they wouldn't let him keep it
PositionOfTheHound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe he got to keep it... on a bag
2D_n_2Deep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd pay a lot of money to get a video of popping that shit.
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would sell it to you if I had it.
theJester5421 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was it his right or left hand? Cuz if it was his left the poop residue probably didn't help the infection
Chitaru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would have made more sense taking him to Mercy
[deleted] ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 21:44:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Donnelly182 ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 21:50:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The surgery team at the Role 3 were some of the best Surgeons in the world, so he very well may have.
Sam-Gunn ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 23:08:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he was thinking of "meatball surgery" in the field to triage and stop the immediate issues from the battlefield as opposed to real, full blown, back in the base w/ time and a lot of supplies, surgeons.
adamhighdef ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:53:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Was also thinking along the lines of some guy that left his hand in diesel for three days vs someone who just got their legs blown off.
malonkey1 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:05:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, the guy with his legs blown off doesn't have any limbs to save, so.../S
roguevirus ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:54:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if I have to get emergency surgery, I want a military doctor who did a tour or two over in the sandbox.
If I want primary care...maybe not. Really depended on the provider.
RobotFighter ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 00:10:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here is some Motrin... Do you smoke? Quit smoking...
MisterKillam ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:31:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fresh socks, and put your PT belt back on!
permanently_new_guy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:55:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How often do you drink? Once or twice a month? I'm sending you to ASAP. You have a problem.
EvilAfter8am ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:14:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vitamin M!
bannana_surgery ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:54:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
M & M's: Motrin and more Motrin.
taws34 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even primary care. Our docs are good.
jpallan ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them. I'd sooner pull out my own teeth with pliers than see an army dentist, and I'd rather treat my yeast infection with kerosene lit on fire than see an army gynecologist.
I served in the army reserves as a medic and I loved my training and the no-bullshit attitude I get from military doctors, but there are a couple of types of military medical providers that are just dreadful.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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anonforfinance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Non military here. Tons of respect for you though. Can you guys go to like an urgent care or redi med? I have really good insurance through work and I rarely go see my PCP. Almost always see urgent care.
mss5333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Medics and corpsmen can do very little outside of the military. Urgent care centers are usually staffed by what are known as "mid-level" providers in the US: PA's and NP's.
Don't get me wrong- military medics get some great training, but as someone who has worked with them in military hospitals and clinics, and someone who is pursuing medical school while married to a PA, the difference in training is vast.
I would trust a PA/NP over a medic or corpsman almost any day of the week... Unless I was just shot or on my way outb of this world outside of a clinical setting. Of course, a PA/NP trained in emergency medicine or surgery is a whole different story.
I have mad respect for my medic and corpsmen friends. They do some amazing things with very little resources under extreme conditions. Still, there is an undeniable difference in earning a master's or doctorate in medicine vs. even the most intense military medic program. In the end, they're simply different roles.
mss5333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"E4 tries to kill me with a pick"
Sooooooo true. You didn't want that enamel, did you???
uncanneyvalley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My FIL was an air force dentist, trained initially in the Vietnam era so he's near retirement these days. Best, most gentle, and most pragmatic dentist I've ever seen. His approach is like if a civil engineer decided to build shit in your mouth.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all of them. Walked into the clinic once during regular sick call with a lymph node in my neck swollen to the size of an egg. The nurses assistant (?) asked me what was wrong, so I just tilted my head back a bit and pointed. Several other people came to look, then told me all they could do was check for strep or schedule an appointment. Soonest was in two weeks. Figured I'd be dead or okay by then, said fuck it.
Went in and actually saw a doc for back pain. Doc was in the room for about 20 seconds, wrote a scrip for Vitamin M and sent me to physical therapy. Physical therapy hurt like hell. Stuck it out for a month or so, went back and saw a different doctor. Second doc says "Ohh, I have the same problem! Here's what you do." Went on to tell me to take 3 tennis balls, put them in a sock, tie it shut, and put it between a wall and my back and rub around on it every so often to alleviate pain... Talked to a few friends who said I needed a good chiropractor, go to such and such, he does military discount. (Medicare apparently doesn't believe in chiropractors). Kept going to physical therapy. Asked about chiropractic care. Said it's a farce, doesn't really help in the long run. Went anyway, told me exactly what was wrong before xray confirmed it, gave me an adjustment. Hadn't felt that pain free in years. Had to keep going to physical therapy (got in trouble for not going for a week). Realized PT was giving me EXACT same adjustments as my chiropractor. He just sucked at it.
TL;DR - Military experiences (and doctors) vary. Most doctors I met gave no fucks about you.
lostarchitect ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah man. I burst a disk in my lumbar, went through months of PT, 2 steroid injections into the spine, and spent the better part of a year in awful pain. Then I went to a chiropractor, and in a week I felt 90% better. I understand some chiropractors are into the voodoo shit, but a lot of them treat it as a form of PT, and fuck anyone who says it doesn't work.
lackofcommitme ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:25:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend hurt his back during an airborne jump. He went to the hospital and they put him on limited duty, no PT and gave him some pain medication. After about 4 months of him going to army hospital asking for X-rays he said fuck it and went to his home town hospital got it Xrayed. Turns out he broke his spine and required emergency surgery. I was had to drive him to hospital because his boss thought he was faking and one of the medics asked me ASKED ME how he wasn't dead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ. Yup. Army docs...
Blue_Bi0hazard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does the tennis ball help at all? Have back issues.
uncanneyvalley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:12:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They feel good but hardly fix shit. Get adjusted a few times, do your stretches, and gently build some core strength.
Blue_Bi0hazard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok thank you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It alleviates pain temporarily (like 1-5 minutes max). I do the same thing with corners of walls. Go see a chiropractor, best money I've ever spent.
Blue_Bi0hazard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stuck paying off a divorce from 4 years ago :(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most I've been to charge a $100 fee the first time around. That's consultation, xray, and adjustment. After that its between $25-40, most common price is usually 35. Adjustment and therapy. I know its a little pricey especially when you're dead broke, but ultimately worth it.
riptaway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:55:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hit or miss. The good ones are very good because they're the people who couldn't have afforded to be a doctor unless they did it through the military. So they're the ones who really want it.
The bad ones hate the military, hate soldiers, hate the conditions, etc, because they could have just gone to school and straight to a civilian job, but couldn't hack it and had to take a spot in the military. They're not great doctors, never will be, and resent having to service a bunch of dumb military grunts
roguevirus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah dude, not in my experience. Some are wonderful, others accuse you of malingering even though your OIC, Company Gunnery Sergeant, and 1st Sergeant all saw you twist your ankle and vouch for you. And your injured ankle is half again as large as the normal one.
Thank God for Independent Duty Corpsmen.
casparh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Regiment?
frydchiken333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I needed this
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, glad I could help?
stewieatb ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:16:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We've moved on a bit from MAS*H, mate.
adamhighdef ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just saw this video, looks nicer and more upto date than my local NHS hospital!
some_random_kaluna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a U.S. taxpayer, I look at that and cry.
There's entire areas in our country that don't have hospitals of that quality, and too many people that can't go because they can't afford it.
jyetie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:56:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cry all you want, it's run by the Brits.
some_random_kaluna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I cry even more.
Compoundwyrds ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:33:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. He's medevaced in as a civilian, probably listed as urgent surgical. He's likely high priority from a civil affairs perspective as well (but that doesn't matter officially, it's all about the 9-line and then how he presents during triage)
I am not a care provider but to the best of my knowledge "submerged in diesel for three days" plus the description of "pissing liquid to the lightest touch" sounds like the entire hand went necrotic. Tissues don't come back from the dead.
I'm sure his almost guaranteed amputation went without complication.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:34:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't really that bad
taws34 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:04:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you. US Army limb salvage is some of the best on the planet.
You'd be amazed at some of the shit our medical providers can do.
Compoundwyrds ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you might really enjoy reading about this place. if you ever have a chance take a tour, best case of the goosebumps you'll ever get.
taws34 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. I'm an Army Physical Therapy Assistant. I've done three clinical rotations there, and I am currently stationed at BAMC. The service I work for own the rehab portion of the facility.
Compoundwyrds ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:44:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep doing an outstanding job. I'm at a loss with what to say, I've only ever walked through there and wished for the opportunity to serve in a capacity at BAMC. Between the center for the intrepid and the burn clinic, that campus stands as a monument to the resiliency of the human mind body and soul.
I got really goosebumped and a little choked up at points. Especially when we learned from the firing range instructors about rehabilitation of marksmanship skills and the idea of not just restoring someone from a disabled state but bringing them back to total war fighting capabilities. I mean the tenacity to relearn to walk with prosthesis from a double amp is one thing, but to stride back and fight alongside your battle buddies again. I'm proud that we have people like you who are part of that unimaginable process. Gods don't perform miracles, groups of committed professionals like the people at BAMC do.
adamhighdef ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wasn't trying to be an asshole but in a warzone some guy that soaked his hand in fucking diesel wouldn't be at the top of their priority list.
taws34 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think a warzone is constantly busy?
Intense boredom followed by brief periods of intense action.
stevie_still_wonders ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:29:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not cool...
Hyperc3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamn Bastions always stealing my POTGs.
Dsplee ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would bet my paycheck he did not keep it. I work in mining and we routinely go over the dangers of petroleum products getting inside the skin. If you get a couple of ounces inside your hand chances are there is permanent damage or partial amputation minimum. That's if you get to the hospital immediately. There's just not a good way to get it out without causing damage.
DI0GENES_LAMP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine that guy answered saying "I don't really know. I never look at that hand."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a chance
Goblikon_ ยท 2772 points ยท Posted at 21:26:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what the fuck
Donnelly182 ยท 1267 points ยท Posted at 21:28:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was pretty much my reaction.
piezeppelin ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 21:44:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what does a medic do in that case?
Donnelly182 ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 21:49:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dress it and wait till the helicopter comes. Not much we could do really.
CrimsonWind ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:16:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he say why he soaked it diesel?
ElCaminoInTheWest ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 02:03:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's cheaper than unleaded?
atavax311 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:16:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i would guess someone told him to do it to disinfect the cut.
DragoonDM ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:21:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oof. I'd like to know what ended up happening to that guy, but I can't imagine it was good. Seems unlikely that he kept the hand, and if it was infected than leaving it untreated could have killed him.
SamediB ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely rhetorical, but if when you touch it is sprays liquid, how do you dress it (without making it worse/completely draining it).
I almost have my eyes shut at this point; please don't answer! >_<
Finie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:49:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/popping
33jdip ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:18:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
damn. Got lost in there for a while
muchasgaseous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You drain it, at least in part. Then you wrap it up and ship them out, I believe (from the non-deployed, only have worked in the hospital thus far perspective).
sacredblasphemies ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Light it.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:18:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diesel fuel is hard to get to ignite without subjecting it to intense heat or high compression.
lost_in_thesauce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:03:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stick it in your ass, fart, and light that sucker up
HMSBannard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking lit ๐ฅ
Jescro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:22:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Siphon and make a few bucks I guess
Come_along_quietly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Light up. ;-)
some_random_kaluna ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:34:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I'd presume someone told him to disinfect the wound with alcohol, and since it's Afghanistan and alcohol is prohibited, he'd found the next best thing and used diesel.
They're both flammable, right?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:12:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaand that's like the only thing I can think of that the two substances have in common as well. Honestly, the only reaction to this post is first of all WTF WHY DID HE DRENCH HIS HAND IN DIESEL?! And second of all, poor education kills.
glucose-fructose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I read somewhere that it can be used a disinfectant...
But not freakin' soaking it
nyonline247 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:09:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And for 3 days watching it swell!!!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:34:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think so. Diesel is organic, toxic and harbours bacteria. Maybe you were thinking of petrol, I think petrol has some disinfectant properties but is still not nearly safe or effective enough to be used on any part of the body, let alone open wounds. And yeah, rarely should you ever soak any living part of your body in anything for three days...I can't imagine what the man was thinking, and why he didn't remove his hand from the diesel even though it should've been obvious within a few hours that it wasn't helping!
glucose-fructose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes thank you, I did some research and was mistaken.
But come on, I can't believe this man did that. It's literally insane
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I suppose that's why it ended up on Reddit!
glucose-fructose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quality post and story to boot!
assumes-irony ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:46:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read this as
My immediate thought was, "not that weird of a comment for Reddit, all things considered."
Still, I was happy when I read it correctly the second time.
IllBePirateKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nah, I wanna poke that fucking water balloon
Sam-Gunn ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:07:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it sort of makes sense. Diesel kills living things so he must've equated it to pure rubbing alcohol in his mind... Poor guy...
malonkey1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only he had switched to ethanol fuel./s
onedoor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:07:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
sparta2020 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So basic a reaction but so damn relavant. I wish there was gold.
nmzuc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did say this out loud.
Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least it was disinfected...
2SP00KY4ME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably figured it was like alcohol.
vc-10 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 21:44:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diesel? WTF?
Donnelly182 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 21:51:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta remember that farmers in Afghanistan aren't renowned for their
intelligenceeducation.colita_de_rana ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 22:02:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're just as intelligent as anyone else. He just isn't well educated about medical stuff.
Donnelly182 ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 22:05:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, intelligence was the wrong word to use. My bad.
leyebrow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:53:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Odds are with lack of pre-natal care, proper nutrition, and education, they're probably not as intelligent as the average first worlder. We can be PC, but also accept reality.
yanroy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:48:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate this argument. It doesn't matter what potential you have, you will not be very intelligent without an education. Education unlocks the potential intelligence to a huge extent. But IMHO education can't do much for someone without potential intelligence, they'll always be stupid no matter what.
slideinsides ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then rephrase it to "they're potentially just as intelligent" if you want, and process that. Saying someone is simply unintelligent obscures the line between biologically derived unintelligence and unintelligence through neglect or lack of opportunity. It then becomes very easy to say "all them fellows yonder are unintelligent. There's no point in allocating resources to educating them because they're a lost cause anyway." This is just one of the reasons why this distinction is important.
yanroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't reach them in childhood, a great many are a lost cause. It's nearly impossible to teach an adult who doesn't see the need to learn.
Avalire ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:11:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't a conference on education spending in Afghanistan, it's a reddit thread.
slideinsides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, it's a reddit thread. Precisely the place for conversation.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As anyone else? You mean the normal massive bell curve of IQs? Yes, but actually no, because the brightest self-select to better environments, just like in neighboring Pakistan, India, etc.
It self-selects the rural areas to have necessarily lower IQs on average. It's just statistics.
LvLupXD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IQ is was designed as an aptitude test for testing how well a child would do in school, and you can do better on an IQ test if you practice. It naturally follows that places with better education will result in people scoring better on IQ tests, as the skills that IQ tests examine are trained in the classroom. Using IQ tests as some blanket statement on intelligence is foolish.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fine, I will state it in the terms you prefer. Highly productive people gravitate towards areas they can be highly productive... a tautology basically. This necessarily means that areas of low productivity steadily lose their top producers.
If you want to state that there is no link between intelligence and productivity by all means...
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:14:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a hard time believing this. An intelligent person would seek out someone more knowledgeable then themselves before acting.
slideinsides ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps that person assumed to be more knowledgeable told the man to stick his hand in petrol based on misinformed yet internally logical belief.
vc-10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly! I'm just amazed that someone came up with that idea...
Big_TX ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:40:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I bet his train of thought was: alcohol kills germs. it's a smelly chemical that burns. diesel is a smelly chemical that burns. probably kills germs.
Donnelly182 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:05:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta give him 10/10 for perseverance, though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can't imagine why he thought it was a good idea. Even if he genuinely thought it was going to help, he probably should have realised before three days had passed that the diesel wasn't making things better...
Atario ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, you know, alcohol, diesel fuel, same diff
username112358 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:54:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably thought gas was an antiseptic because of its strong smell.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too bad it's the opposite...
daten-shi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gas and Diesel are different. Petrol (or gas for americans) can work as a sterilizing agent but it's still very bad to use, like so bad that it's last resort territory.
Diesel is far worse though.
WalterJessePinkWhite ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:14:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diesel of all things :o. Poor guy hope he's alright
RossPerotVan ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:16:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my grandpa used to put gas on all his cuts. he cut his fingers off once and dunked the stubs in gas
uptoke ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:10:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than diesel or kerosene, but man that must sting.
WalterJessePinkWhite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guessing you mean petrol? That's not as bad as diesel but can't imagine thats too good either
fivehundredandfirst ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:45:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't leave us hanging! What happened? Lyse it? Leave it? One less hand for the Afghan man?
Donnelly182 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:51:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We dressed it and called in a helicopter. Nothing we could do on the ground. Not sure what happend after that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mss5333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then amputated when antibiotics were ineffective.
BriSy33 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:57:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck my recruiter and everything he stands for. I did not sign up for this shit -Your medic 2003
Donnelly182 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:16:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, no one mentions fucking burns pits and poop burning in the commercials.
BriSy33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Join the U.S Army, You can treat other people's dirrahea!
"Godamnitt Johnson nobody is gonna want to join if that's the ad we run, Just put a bunch of rocket launchers and computers and shit instead"
thisguynamedjoe ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:41:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a guy in Iraq with some kind of hernia where fluid was for lack of a better explanation, was pooling in his scrotum. It had gone on quite some time, and he looked like he was smuggling a pair of large sweet potatoes in a sack. It showed through his dishdasha (loose arab garment) and swung pendulously back and forth as he walked, not quite down to his knees. Fuck, my balls hurt just seeing it in my memory.
Donnelly182 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my God. Fuck that.
DiscoHippo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:55:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think after 2 days of getting worse he'd take it out.
Donnelly182 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:58:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think putting your badly cut hand in Diesel would be a bad idea in the first place. But there I was. Draining a mans hand of fucking Diesel whilst he sobbed quietly.
Raz0rking ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
at least there where no bacteria present
fleshballoon ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:20:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Petrol is incredibly toxic, but lots of microbes can survive in it.
He was basically just immersing an open wound in a tub of unsterile poison. Ouch.
banditkeith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of bacterial contamination in diesel, actually.
buttery_shame_cave ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:35:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that happened to my dad because he had some sort of weird reaction to lube oil that got into a cut on his hand when a bolt flew out of some machinery and nailed him. he went to the doctor right away, but within hours he'd swelled up and it had gone all sorts of sideways on him. he had a pretty severe infection that they battled for a couple weeks. i think in the end the medical team at the hospital basically created a custom antibiotic cocktail just for him.
but his hand basically went just like that, and after exposure to petrolieum product.
Eugostodetortas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:12:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear lord
Wheredoesthetoastgo2 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:47:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/popping just got a collective boner
Donnelly182 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:52:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I... I don't want to click that link.
HaydenB ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:20:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DO IT.... Give in to the squeeze.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You lead your life wisely and will see prosperity.
jungletigress ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do not.
CodeArcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll take one for the team.
Okay, most of them aren't that bad. Nothing on the first page was too nasty to look at. I didn't watch the videos though, so still use caution. ;)
malonkey1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean they...popped a boner?
kujaultima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/clicksonlinks
ClicksOnLinks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the most part it's photos and videos of zits, blackheads, abscesses and cysts being popped and lanced.
I did see a gif of a girl remove a nose piercing and it starts gushing blood though, so there's some other stuff going on in there too.
MasterAlcander ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the guy i work with insists that dipping a cut into anything oil based with keep it from hurting while it heals. he does at least not keep it dipped for three days.
fleshballoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't feel pain if you destroy your nerves.
MasterAlcander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hahah yea i just look at him like hes crazy, he uses diesel from the trucks we work off of.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just Infantry, so I have no idea. But I can't imagine so.
ImALittleCrackpot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably thought that because diesel is stinky and it stings when it gets in a wound, that it acts as an antiseptic.
My grandfather's brother (my great-uncle), who lived in the Midwest all his life, used to put turpentine in the cuts he got from working at the hardware store he ran with my grandfather. Great-Uncle figured that the turpentine was doing something because it stung. He also lived to be 91 and died of brain cancer.
Pyro9966 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds about right. I had a woman bring their kid to us while out on patrol because "her head hurt."
Our medic looked at the kid's head to find FUCKING MAGGOTS. The kid had a minor scrape or cut and it got infected. There were maggots crawling around INSIDE A GODDAMN HEAD WOUND.
Donnelly182 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ANA insisted on doing a clearance op on their own. We told them it was a bad idea but stood by to crash out if the call came. 150 went out and over the ensuing hours they took 27 casualties. One of which was the Commanders son. They rushed him into our PB and insisted we treat him first, the other wounded soldiers didn't matter apparently. The Commander was getting very angry at us and suddenly we had 8 ANA soldiers pointing AKs at us. We went over to the wounded son and found him fucking dead. He'd been hit in the mouth by a riubd which bounced up and came out the top of his head. None of this seemed to matter and they told us to do CPR. So we half assed a bit of CPR and put him on the next helicopter out. Thing is, you could hear the air whistle out of his head wound and they still thought we could save him...
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diesel? What the actual fuck?? I can't fathom how he thought that might help.
ta394283509 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a fear of fuel getting in open wounds so this triggered me
rouge87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of using kerosene as a coagulant and I imagine diesel would work the same. Though why he would have kept it submerged for three days beats me.
poopf4rt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean before anyone tells me I'm disgusting, did anyone record that?
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, sorry dude.
poopf4rt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:01 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darn.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god no.
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right?
mwgknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell was that?
gracefulwing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? I know in emergencies you can use gasoline as an antiseptic, but why on earth leave it in there for three days?
knosterud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact, apparently it's good for minor burns! I have never tried it, because that just sounds God awful, but I've heard from many people that gasoline and/or diesel is good for burns.
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather just wrap in in a wet cloth or clingfilm or something.
whackadoodle_cracked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't... I feel like my eyes will never recover from reading this paragraph
scarletfbl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know if there is some notion of diesel/gas being some sort of disinfectant in that region? I can't imagine why he would think that would be the thing that would save his hand.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's no way he had an infection. But he definitely lost the hand.
daitoshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't see me but I inhaled sharply through the noise, followed by a low, distressed moan like a very unhappy dog
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, that was surprisingly discriptive.
Blitzkrieg_My_Anus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What an amature. Diesel is only good for cleaning your hands. If you want to bath them then you need to use molten lead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am tired of these jokes about my giant hand. The first such incidents occured in 1956 when ...
perseus287 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have used windex.
genmischief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And.... chop that shit off.
whattoucantfind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you refer to him as Heroin Bob after that?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I usually go to look for some diesel when I get an ouchie on my hand also.
drizerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems someone was playing too much bioshock...
flappingpiegon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... please tell me you tried to light the puss on fire
crackermachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smashed my thumb like a banana when a tombstone fell on me (work related) never lost the nail but there was bone sticking out and it was peeled half back, some hispanic dude told me to do this to keep the nail from falling off. I opted against the advice, but interesting to hear something like this pop up again
IFreakinLovePi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see the logic. Diesel and alcohol both burn. Alcohol is used to keep wounds from festering. Diesel must be similar.
cheesecrystal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta kill it with fire.
havereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suspect the "diesel-treatment" had very little to do with the water balloon appearance. As you said, probably just infected to fuck....
2hoodrich4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHYYYYYYYY!?!? Diesel????
Everybody knows to use premium petrol!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god I have so many stories about people in Afghanistan having no understanding of physiology or medicine at all.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBF, my interest in this thread has dwindled.
starkbutt3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes. Afghan nationals.
sigh I'm happy I ets'd.
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every now and again I find myself missing it. I gotta nip that shit in the bud.
mrshestia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like he wanted an honorable discharge to me :/
D-TOX_88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. In what world is the answer to any wound "soak that shit in diesel"?
Donnelly182 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The 3rd World?
kristenp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roach Crystals?
Goof245 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oils, including diesel, destroy flesh if they get under the skin. It's why you never, ever run your hand along a hydraulic hose to feel for leaks. If a pinhole leak exists and oil comes out it'll pierce the skin and run along the flesh in your arm and slowly break it down. Doctors can only open your arm up and manually sponge the oil out to limit the damage. :(
myfapaccount_istaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FRUMULON. (OR WHATEVER)
Donnelly182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FREMULON
myfapaccount_istaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah thats its! Im usually almost asleep when it's announced and just hear it
juu-ya-zote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh I lived in East Africa for a minute and this is that shit. Like why tf are you sticking it in diesel
CatBedParadise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He got it backwards, it's kerosene that's good for wounds.
bronsterz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened??
DarkandTwistyMissy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the girl who survived a plane crash in the Amazon or something. Then made her way down the river, but had to disinfect her wound with what I thought was gasoline. It was on the front page a while back. I'm sure I have it wrong, but it was fascinating. Note to self: diesel is not an antiseptic.
hernandezZz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of similar to this, my father grew up in Mexico and was working in the sugar cane fields one day. During his work, he accidentally cut his hand with the machete he was using to cut down canes. Not knowing what to do since he was around 3-4th grade he doused his hand in gasoline. He's lucky it didn't get infected since there weren't any doctors around his village, he would have had to lose his hand I'm guessing. but in the end it worked, he learned a lesson.
TylerHobbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather was a farmer in rural northern Montana... he was quite the badass, he sewed his own cuts with needle and thread instead of getting actual stitches, he brushed his teeth with comet powder... anyway, when he got a particularly bad cut once he dipped his hand into diesel to sterilize it. Didn't leave it in there for three days though and everything seemed to work out ok...
Pbpro13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As outrageous as this sounds, i swear im not even joking. I was in TQ, iraq last summer and we had some iraqis bring us a cooler to our ecp in an ambulance. Inside was a gory, post ied soup, formerly know as one of their soldiers. They asked if we could put him back together....
subtropicalyland ยท 10945 points ยท Posted at 20:54:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a nursing student I had once who laughed loudly and exclaimed 'How can you possibly get an STD in your mouth?' ahh the innocence of youth.
Sam_Strong ยท 1689 points ยท Posted at 23:47:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait till she has a patient who has an STD in their stoma.
Hermes66 ยท 447 points ยท Posted at 02:16:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hits home button
uninstalls Alien Blue
factory resets phone
removes battery
microwaves battery
smashes phone with a hammer
buries pieces deep in the earth
thesnarkisaboojum ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 03:19:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait how the fuck do you still have Alien Blue that app was great but I thought it doesn't exist any more??
JebbyK ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 04:32:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you kept it installed you can still use it
snowboardMT ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 05:05:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for letting me know to never delete the app!
f42e479dfde22d8c ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:57:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Banjoe64 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:48:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same!
BritneySmears ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:05:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure you can still download old versions from the myriad app sites out there.
Thepsycoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same!
Zuphixavex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right next to Flapy Bird!
PositivelyErect ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:55:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you talking about, seriously?
Sceme ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:59:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alien Blue was a reddit client for iPhone that many claimed to be the best
pilotman996 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:08:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was the best before the actual reddit app launched
PositivelyErect ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:35:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So reddit launched a mobile app and it's actually finally better than alien blue?
OHydroxide ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think most people consider it worse than Alien blue because while scrolling through threads, each one takes up a massive amount of screen space. You can only see the previews of 2-3 threads at a time instead of ~8 like with Alien Blue.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Additionally, the official reddit app is slow and stupid.
JasTHook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid because it does not remember your place if the system close it down to save memory
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. This kinda stupid
slid3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Android Reddit is Fun Master Race.
OHydroxide ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, I recently got an Android, and rif is amazing.
slid3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully, my iPad has Alien Blue. It still totally blows in comparison.
MostPopularPenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's what I don't like about it. I just switched from android to IPhone and I REALLY miss Relay... it's not bad though just different than I'm used to.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can adjust that in the settings
pilotman996 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have, and I think it's better in that it's designed by reddit so it just works smoother
Skjold_out_here ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pfffffft, Baconreader is obviously the best Reddit client app.
mss5333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But narwhal... Why even bother with alien blue ?
thesnarkisaboojum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh way to get my hopes up
PressForSelfDestruct ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:56:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the off-chance you still have the same iPhone it was previously installed on you can go to the App Store > Updates > Purchased > Not on the iPhone. You should be able to reinstall it from that list.
thesnarkisaboojum ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? Holy shit. I doubted you, but it's there. Thank you.
OldAtariScore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Adding to this as long as it's still registered to your apple store account (ie you did not delete it from your ACCOUNT which you have to do via itunes because Apple hates all of us) you can most likely still download it because it's saved in your account info. Same if you have a backup save of a device with it on itunes or icloud.
I switched ipads a month ago, transferred the icloud backup of my old ipad to my new one and didn't have a single issue.
CRAZEDDUCKling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever had it installed, you can reinstall it.
GetWreckless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i didnt uninstall it but it stopped working for me and i discovered it was discontinued so then i uninstalled it:(
derperific_derplord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's alien blue
DownvoteCommaSplices ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reddit mobile app. It's the one I use on my phone. It crashes all the time but I don't know what ones out there are better and frankly I'm rather lazy.
Deviantyte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:42:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The reddit official app is an okay alternative. It's not better by a long shot, but it's serviceable. My biggest complaint about it at the moment is that it collapses a thread if you tap anywhere inside a comment that isn't a link. So if I'm trying to tap a link and I miss, the whole thread collapses. It's mildly infuriating.
DownvoteCommaSplices ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hell no that sounds horrible. I don't follow links very far in alien blue to save on data usage, and therefore only use it for subs like /r/askreddit so that's a big nono for me and my big stupid hands
Deviantyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should clarify that when I say "the whole thread", I mean from that comment down. It doesn't collapse comments above the one you tap.
DownvoteCommaSplices ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understood that; it still sounds incredibly annoying. I never go out of my way to collapse any threads.
Deviantyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just making sure. It is indeed incredibly annoying.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh agree. And it's stupidly hard to land your finger on the links some days so I'm swearing at the phone as the posts keep collapsing all for like a Rick roll or something.
Deviantyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel your pain.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Up and downvotes as well, I've realized. And woe to you if your other hand is... busy.
caffeine_lights ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit is fun never crashes for me.
Utecitec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It still works fine if you never want uninstalled it, and I think you can still download it if it's in your library. It's just not supported any more, so it'll stop working eventually.
Quastors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does. I'm posting this from it.
letspaintthesky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whats Alien Blue?
nu231092 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still use it in my iPad just downloaded it from the App Store
thenonlurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what happened to alien blue?
thesnarkisaboojum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Reddit bought it and replaced it with the official app. It's not in the App Store anymore. I was AWOL from Reddit for a couple years though, so I'm not sure what exactly went down.
dubyrunning ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just Google for that apk, scro
Homer_Goes_Crazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apk's are Android files, scro, alienblue was iOS only.
dubyrunning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit, shows what I know (nothing). Here I am using "reddit is fun" and loving it. Sort of seems too bad that iOS users can't download legacy apps they want without voiding their warranties, but that's neither here nor there.
I'm just glad people are using the word "scro." Idiocracy is an awesome movie. And on the plus side, that's soon to become our actual reality in the US.
PrettyFly4AGreenGuy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:06:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
torrents
buster2Xk ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 03:33:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You fool, you forgot to clear all your reddit comments and delete your account!
identitynumber4 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You also forgot to hit the gym, and lawyer up!
BeatPutinArmWreslin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/stonetear is that you?
faployst ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Initiate protocol zero
bradshawmu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you left this buried in my yard. I'm giving it back.
PM_me_PaintedToes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nuke it from orbit
It's the only way to be sure
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine included melting pieces with acid in my bathtub. Then burying it in a graveyard.
Boomer8450 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stoma!
Northcliff ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:37:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary, is that you?
blahblahyaddaydadda ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:10:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen a lot of disgusting shit in medicine, but this legit made me gag
False798 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:25:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can bet they didn't feel the need to gag
FuujinSama ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:43:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, is this a reference to the old reddit post... Or have multiple people done this?
shill_account_46 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:49:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes
jxuereb ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:42:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well technically it takes two to do it
nate8493 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:31:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We've had multiple STD stoma patients from prisons. They trade letting people fuck their stomas for material goods.
heiferly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The latter.
zelnoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
emeraldwill93 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:02:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Philadelphia Side car
Crimz609 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:48:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost 2am and I'm laughing myself out of being able to sleep
MarieAquanette ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 00:46:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need brain bleach now.
derperific_derplord ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:51:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/eyebleach is the next best thing
dratthecookies ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 04:07:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try. I don't know what that word means and I refuse to look it up! My shield of ignorance has never failed me.
[deleted] ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 04:29:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
neck stoma for breathing
stomach stoma for pooping
I'm unsure which one would be the most disturbing to have sex with though, also for the second picture you should thank me because there are waaay more gross pictures out there
Sqin ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:00:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish all my patients had stomas looking like that. :(
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:30:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even want to know how it could be worse
Sqin ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:32:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Necrotic stomas are the worst: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/ca/e3/d0cae332c393bb8a6827f8d38bad3477.jpg
Since I know you're curious.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:33:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not clicking it
kafoBoto ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:40:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you lucky bastard!
Captain_Cowboy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like a sick slug
vicabart ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 05:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean like this? https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2015/7-12/jssky7PKPb-2.png
Captain_Cowboy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:47:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf! You should mark that NSFW!
Mechdra ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:36:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do NOT click on this link!!!
pinkbutterfly1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/ClicksOnLinks
ClicksOnLinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol it's like an MS paint slug wearing sunglasses
plankzorz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You a stoma doctor?
Sqin ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:45:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, just a gastro/colorectal nurse. Doctors don't have to deal with them.
plankzorz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:47:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool. I had my stoma reversed last march. I miss it. Keep up the good work! I couldnt have done it without people like you
unforgivablecursive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you miss it? Genuinely interested.
plankzorz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its completely vain, il be honest. It made me special. I was 21 when i got it. And i travelled and did a lot of things and never let it stop me doing anything and it felt good. Now im nothing
Igotlost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:37:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't fully understand, was your medical condition what you defined yourself by? If someone were to have asked you to describe yourself, would you have just written "a person with a stoma."? Surely there are other qualities you see in yourself. What's stopping you from still defining yourself as a strong person for living with a stoma, even if you don't have it anymore?
plankzorz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course i defined myself by that, it was the only thing that had happened in my life. I should have died and it gave me something to prove. I struggle to convey my thoughts a lot of the time. But now i see myself as nothing but a scarred wreck of a person who will never be remembered. It all seems rather pointless, and frankly im ok with that
theblancmange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't let that opinion of yourself stop you from doing any of the things you did and enjoyed before, that would be worse than letting a medical condition stop you.
say592 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:53:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neck. You could probably kill someone that way, which changes the dynamic significantly. Stomach is like anal, just messier.
Drazen44 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:41:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Portland chimney sweep or a Philly sidecar. The choice is yours.
Touchmycooker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God i wish i had two dicks so i could fuck both at once /s
daaaamngirl88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh..I thought it was eye related.
plaid_banana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟPor quรฉ no los dos?
ThePlatitudePlatypus ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 04:23:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fake pooper a doctor cut into someone's tum-tum
heiferly ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 05:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily, it can be any new connection between your insides and outsides. Tracheostomy, colostomy, gastrostomy (through which is placed a "G tube" for tube feeding into the stomach), jejunostomy (for a "J tube" for post-pyloric tube feeding), urostomy (e.g., for placement of a supra-pubic catheter), and many others. I have two of those above, and there is NO WAY I would ever use them for sexual purposes. They're not stretchy, they're delicate and form painful/bloody granulation tissue from even minor irritation at the site, and acid/bile from my digestive tract tends to leak out of them little by little, which can be extremely caustic to skin that it comes in contact with.
I_am_N0t_that_guy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:09:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I skipped a line and read: "I have two of them for sexual purposes". If you had not capitalized the not, which made me re-read, I would have uninstalled reddit. Thanks.
heiferly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, yeah. That's fucking creepy. High five to all the other line-skipping readers out there, I do it all the time!
Nyrb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep...
Nyrb ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He cut him a new asshole.
Manonthebrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This needs more up votes...
sparta2020 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please god cave the roof in so a beam can hit me in the head and make me forget the last 10mins of reading this thread.
False798 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spoiler alert: you'll find out someday
PM_ME_THE_BEST_STORY ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 01:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Any of the minute pores in the epidermis of the leaf or stem of a plant, forming a slit of variable width that allows movement of gases in and out of the intercellular spaces."
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:28:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dog-boy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:10:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm thinking Sam means the other kind of stoma. "an artificial opening made into a hollow organ, especially one on the surface of the body leading to the gut or trachea." So the opening to a colostomy or urostomy.
sexcelsia ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:23:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stoma = "mouth" in Greek. Humans are deuterostomes, meaning "second mouth." AKA when we are a teeny tiny conglomerate of cells, we make our b-holes first and mouths second! Fun fact of the day.
BigYearColorado ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:47:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which makes posting on the Internet a Freudian return to the earliest days of the womb.
BunnyFooPhoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now, I didn't need to go and read that today.
Status_Quo2015 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:14:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Giggity.
omegasavant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But WHY? There are a lot of places in the human body that are sensitive enough for certain activities to be worthwhile, but surely that would just be incredibly painful?
Tauposaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friends work at 911. They had a regular caller who was a hooker. I guess desperate times and a one-time strange offer led her to discovering a... niche market. She was getting her stoma fucked for money is what Im saying here. It eventually got infected. She died.
ChildishSerpent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. Fuck you for saying that. Nonononono
SilentJac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, the mouth is a stoma
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just... WHY?????
corsicanguppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You lost me after you mentioned the cash drawer.
smith81644 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to google it. I don't. Right???
Thebluefairie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HAD forgotten about that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....... really?!
I guess humans really will put their junk in anything/put anything in their junk...
1StrongPT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wyckoff???
MrGlayden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alllll Riiiight!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Looked that up. Nope.
thatnon-binarykid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, hey, I hear stoma-jobs feel great
Topher3001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Yeah, had a pt with herpes of the stoma. That was....weird.
AlifeofSimileS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lovely
bigbabysurfer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good Sir,
I have worked as a Paramedic for close to 22 years. I thought I'd just about seen and done it all...
...until I read your "stoma" comment.
You, sir, have succeeded in disgusting me to a level I thought unreachable.
You magnificent bastard!
starwestsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. I've seen gonorrhea in a stoma.
Epicholyoverload ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am nursing student. This never crossed my mind for some reason
the1trimester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took me three rereads to realize you just assumed the student's gender. :)
Four actually. Yeah.
breadislive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bro
zelnoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No thanks. Not googling stoma STD today, oh no sir.
candy_cake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh
no.
Ninauposkitzipxpe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. Christ.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no no. I refuse to believe any one has sex using their stoma, let alone devoples an STD in it. No. There just is no way. No.
ahrn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm what? Yeah, I'm done reading now...
powman6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOME THINGS CANNOT BE UN-LEARNED
tradingten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah from the ol' Philly sidecar probably?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, what's a stoma?
Furiously Googles
Oh...oh god...OH SWEET JESUS NO
nagol93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sir, your liver is HIV positive...... no, only your liver.
mgrah3723 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ, current nursing student, and the images of such a thing make me cringe... Whyyyyyyy?!?!
Raging_Dragon_99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:37 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Googled stoma and... WHAT THE FUCK.... WHY? JUST WHY?!
shitwhore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:52 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh
cantstopthecrabs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:39:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:|
macphile ยท 893 points ยท Posted at 22:27:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The how I get, but does it happen often? I've never heard of anyone having oral chlamydia, say. Maybe I don't hang around the right/wrong circles. (Of course, there's oral herpes, but that's a different kettle of...herpes. And I know from being on the internet that you can get STDs of the stoma from a colostomy.)
cinnamonduck ยท 1163 points ยท Posted at 22:58:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a kid I knew in college who got oral chlamydia 3 separate times. And he was totally open about it. Ew.
Captain_Phobos ยท 3948 points ยท Posted at 00:13:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like he was a bit of a chlamydiot.
EDIT - Thar be gold in them hills! Thanks for the gilding, mysterious benefactor!
da_chicken ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 03:04:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
** clap clap clap **
No, wait, that's gonorrhea...
uptoke ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:59:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We hate that word.
andee510 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:13:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not fit to be queen of... name a place.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:18:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Silesia
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sick reference
JamesTheJerk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:58:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonorrhea.
HoodRichJanitor ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:14:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DON'T. SAY. WHORDIOT.
jkovach89 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:29:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh because of the chlamydia... and because I'm an idiot.
Commander_x ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:02:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Archer reference FTW
pineappleonion ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:36:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep-atitus B.
ClusterMakeLove ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He just had some chlamydiosyncrasies.
UpDaFleadh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:22:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chlamydiately made me laugh, you must be some sort of chlamydian!
Deezl-Vegas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:00:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh. Kill em.
PlasticGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happy Cake Day~
feijis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:51:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaay, this guy!!
SomethingsGottaHave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
TheoHooke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Risquรฉ pokemon name.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or a whordiot
JohnathanTeatime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what about a whordiot?
ironic_name11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm using this
the_mouse_of_the_sea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best response to getting gold I've heard yet!
Sam-Gunn ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 23:00:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He should stop falling asleep on the subway...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:18:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a word for that thing when you laugh and dry-heave at the same time, accompanied by a full-body shudder? Because I just did that.
javitogomezzzz ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:13:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's called a seizure.
caseyfla ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:37:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ถ Don't sleep on the subway, darling. ๐ถ
I_POTATO_PEOPLE ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 23:46:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From a Jolly Rancher?
[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 23:50:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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I_POTATO_PEOPLE ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an oldie but a goodie
LT_lurker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:44:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You missed a golden opportunity to say "it's an old story sir, but it checks out" since it is about the swamps of degobah.
shrowdawg ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:25:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No man, dagobah is a whole other monster
Lemmy_is_Gawd ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:59:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy gawd I had never read this before. I was very nearly revisited by the burrito I consumed only a moment ago.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever read this one? There's quite a few legendary reddit threads, but when I first came to this site, this is the one that fucked me up enough that I keep coming back here to this day, just hoping to get that level of WTF again. Kind of like any hard drug.
PoopyMcDickles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That thread is seriously disturbing. I'm glad there were at least some happy endings.
CatsAreDivine ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:35:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm relatively new to reddit, so I had never heard that story. Now I have.
Also, ๐
Czar-Fox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit reddit..
Jake_Clin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the heck did I just read?
JollyRancherReminder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:-D
Spherewizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate you
Icarium13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NOOOOOO
_PM_ME_GFUR_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you.
Askanner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
speechless...
netk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could have lived my whole life without clicking that link. Why God why!?
LiliVonSchtupp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fuck clenching my fists with my thumb inside!
BabyPinkAesthetic ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:21:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you pretend you don't have a cold when you do?
Most STDs are basically a cold for your junk. People's weirdness abt sexual topics is all that makes STDs especially taboo or disgusting.
Remove the stigma, folks can be educated more easily & will be more willing to get checked & treated when they aren't burdened by the shame of being 'tainted' or 'dirty'.
mementomori4 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:47:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd hope that people would be a little more careful after the first time though...
Wabbit_Snail ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes being careful has nothing to do with it. Condoms don't protect you from everything...
elastic-craptastic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming the dude was straight, I don't think condoms would have helped him at all in that situation. Condoms are hard to wear on our tongue when going down on a girl.
Wabbit_Snail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:48:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha! Those actually exist :) But it's not what I was referring to. I was replying in that sideways conversation context about std's being tabboo, if that makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He aims to please.
BabyPinkAesthetic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you more careful about touching doorknobs, railing, elevator buttons, etc after the first time you got a cold?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:11:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better they're open about it than hide it and spread it. Awareness of these things also helps.
gsbadj ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like he was extremely open. Wide open.
Fiishbait ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be tricky if it was closed.
partofthevoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
claptrap?
funnyredditnam3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I knew a girl who had it several times.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so the question is ... same girl or he just happened to go down on chlamydia VG a lot ?
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't you liable if you aren't open about having an std?
cinnamonduck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this case open means he would openly talk about it and make jokes. Not open in the sense of knowing prior to sex and properly disclosing to partners. I don't know about his disclosure to partners and treatment.
LickMyBloodyScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was using double entendre
glitch177k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That dude sucked a lot of dick.
JoshTheJaunty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
apparently too open
McWaddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thus the oral chlamydia.
dentinoblaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DM;HS
hm___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats not necessarily the STDs version see:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlamydophila_pneumoniae
edit: i accidentaly a word
hayyeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you never shared food, a bathroom sink, or general living quarters with him
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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King-of-Karthadasht ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone though
cinnamonduck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone. And STIs are more preventable than the flu by a huge margin. The fact that he kept getting it doesn't speak well of his ability to practice safe sex. STIs are a big deal because of the increasing antibiotic resistance (especially in gonorrhea and chlamydia), and that if untreated they can cause permanent damage. And unlike the flu, your body doesn't fight them off naturally.
[deleted] ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 00:26:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chlamydia and gonorrhea can both happen orally, but the transmission rates or lower than for other "traditional" types of sex. Oral gonorrhea is more common than oral chlamydia. Not a lot of places do an oral swab, and it's not as serious as genital chlamydia and gonorrhea so that's probably why you don't hear about it as often. You can get chlamydia and gonorrhea in your eyes, too.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:24:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the frequency rate of genital STDs compared to oral STDs?
I'd almost expect oral STDs to be more frequent, because I'd imagine that it never even occurs to a lot of people that they should use protection during oral.
doctorowlsound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Genital rates are much higher than oral. Risk of transmission for oral STDs (really just chlamydia and gonorrhea) is much lower. Oral-vaginal sex is the lowest risk because the bacteria live in the back of the throat, oral-penile is slightly higher risk, but still much lower risk than vaginal or anal sex. Guidelines basically only recommend oral screening for people who are symptomatic or members of high risk populations (e.g. MSM) who have oral sex.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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heiferly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Child abuse?
TC01017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
STDs on your eyes. That sounds painful.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:37:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trachoma, infection of the eye by Chlamydia trachomatis, remains a major cause of blindness in some parts of the world. The WHO has labeled it a neglected tropical disease.
Big_TX ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 23:31:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of them is most commonly spread that way.
But yah oral sex is unsafe sex.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:00:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:46:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Elfer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dental dams.
spidaminida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kissing is pretty damn risky too...
Wyvernz ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 23:43:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HPV can cause throat cancer, for example. Also, you can get HSV-2 on your mouth and HSV-1 on your genitals, though it's less common than the usual locations.
DontMicrowaveCats ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:34:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually HSV-1 is pretty easy to get genitally if you don't already have oral HSV1. They think the occurance rate could be way more than reported since it's usually a lot more mild if it shows up genitally (usually...it can be just as bad as hsv2 though, esp the first outbreak). Unless they're showing obvious lesions, people confuse it for benign skin irritation, and then the only way it gets tested for is blood tests. But blood tests can only tell you that you have HSV1 antibodies in your system ... Not where it shows up. And since pretty much everyone has HSV1 in their blood, that's not very helpful.
But it's really easy to get oral herpes from someone with genital HSV1. That being said, luckily since pretty much everyone already has HSV in their system its harder to get in other locations.
i_am_icarus_falling ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:24:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonorrhea can infect the throat. It's bacterial, and I've read that it's somewhat common for other bacterial STI's like chlamydia and syphilis to be present, and that people are often treated for getting rid of all 3, if 1 is found. Dunno how true that last statement is, it's anecdotal. Also, it's unwise to trust someone who can accurately type out gonorrhea without having to look it up.
polly_enmity ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:04:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the clinic where I work, if we see syphilis we will often treat presumptively for the other two before tests are back.
-NP in STD clinic.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dot-pixis ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:24:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Degrassi taught me this
Thanks, Drake!
procrastimom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my "spell check" is a prude and couldn't for the life of it figure out what I was trying to spell!
daymcn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same... Samsung. My phone hates any swears, cusses, sex related words. For the Hundseth time I don't mean ducking!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister got gonorrhea in her throat from her boyfriend who was cheating on her. Good times.
Boukish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diarrhea is a good training word, though.
chairitable ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:08:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I contracted chlamydia from a dude sucking my dick. That was an unpleasant week :/
RdmGuy64824 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty gay, bro.
chairitable ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:21:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
;)
muchasgaseous ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:08:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient in my adolescent med clinic who had a sore throat. I asked him what it felt like, and he said "Like the last time I had gonorrhea." Needless to say, he was correct.
polly_enmity ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:02:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Provider in STD clinic in the US. I see oral gonorrhea all day, every day. Less so chlamydia of the throat.
Finie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:16:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How often do you see the hat trick (urethral, rectal, and oral)? I was surprised at how common it is in my area, then a little disappointed.
polly_enmity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least one patient per day!
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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agentadventure ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:34:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should do it even more frequently than that! Every time you have a new sexual partner, if you forgo condoms PLEASE test. Us porn performers test every two weeks and stuff STILL slips through the cracks. Fun fact: cutting edge testing, which uses locations all over the US will do a full STD panel with results the next day for $165 and it takes like ten minutes. You'll have to fill out a questionnaire asking if you have an "agent" or if you want to be a member of the PASS system, which are porn performer-related questions but just leave them blank.
AlwaysDefenestrated ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably don't need to spend $165, check for free clinics in your area first.
daymcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for a result the next day and a full panel. My local health clinic will test for things using a swab, but HIV, herpes, and hpv need a blood draw and you have to ask for it and pay extra.
cornicat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look, I don't know that much about this but wouldn't it be easier (and a fuckload safer) just to wear condoms and then get tested every 3-6 months instead of every time you have a new partner? Plus $165??? That's pretty insane, especially if you're testing yourself 3-10 times a year (using OP's numbers and your logic).
agentadventure ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No arguments there, condoms are the way to go! But we should be realistic and acknowledge that when we sample the wider populace that they are often lazy about condom use. I only mention the option above because when I was uninsured and had to go get an std panel (at my university clinic no less!) the lab bills that came back to me were well over $500. Cheers!
daymcn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention that condoms don't protect 100% for pregnancy or std s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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agentadventure ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:04:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol asshole, it's been mandatory every two weeks since the last HIV outbreak in California in 2013. Damn near all reputable companies won't even bend the rules for you on an expired test. I lost out on a girl/girl shoot (way less risky) because my test was fifteen days old last month. And clearly you didn't read my post history carefully enough because I've posted proof of who I am on here before but since you're being a smug upstart here's further proof: https://twitter.com/lenaisapeach/status/818745164256526336
agentadventure ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not anymore. Early detection methods have rapidly moved timelines forward on STI testing panels, especially for the most common diseases (gonorrhea and chlamydia in particular) https://www.stdcheck.com/blog/how-soon-get-tested-for-stds-unprotected-sex/
daymcn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:43:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can any woman be unaware of BV? Or another woman even think to go down there? It was the most awful thing I have experienced, literally felt like I had a stink cloud surround me and everyone knew. Thank God it's easily treatable
procrastimom ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonorrhea of the tonsils is a thing.
VAGINA_BLOODFART ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex got oral Chlamydia while cheating on me. Good times.
vreddy92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive seen oral HPV. Not pretty.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see oral gonorrhea far more often then oral chlamydia. In my lab, I'd estimate probably 1-2 oral gonorrhea cases/week. Maybe only 1-2 oral chlamydia cases per month.
We see a lot of "oral" herpes on genitalia, but not so much "genital" herpes in the mouth.
asek13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I worked at Petco someone dropped off a bird he didn't want anymore that had chlamydia in its eye
JayRekka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Former Navy. Worked with a guy who went down on a Thai hooker.
JudasCrinitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like. As in.
As in someone is fucking the stoma?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can absolulty get genetal herpes on your face, and oral herpes on your genetals. It's HSV1 and HSV2. We have labeled them oral and genetal do to where they most often infect. But they can easily infect either area. Fun fact, 68% of Americans are infected with HSV1, and 25% with HSV2. Guess what... you know somone with herpes. Because half of America has it.
Only 20% of people manifest symptoms in the form of cold sores on the face or genetals. So more likely then not if you are infected, you don't know it. And you think you know it because you get tested for STDs? Wrongo. They only swab your genetal sore and test that for herpes confirmation IF you have a sore. But if you are a symptomless carrier they never test for that. You have to specifically request and insist they do the HSV1/HSV2 antibody test. It's expensive, and not in the normal STD panel. But is a sure way of knowing (with a 2 month lag-time in accuracy, i.e. If we're infected more then 2 months ago your titer should be high enough to pick up in the test).
You know why they normally don't test for Herpes? Because it's largely a social stigma and isn't actually a serious STD. Have fun at the doctor next time. :0
1jl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I though thought you just had Chlamydia. Like it was in your entire body.
ValorVixen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bacterial infections (like chlamydia, gonorrhea, or strep) often start out as localized infections. If left untreated, the infection can go 'systemic,' in which case it is in your blood stream and can have more serious effects.
sjb285 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes you can get stds eventually all over your body if untreated.
terynce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep in mind you can transfer oral to genital herpes and vice versa.
Ornithologist_MD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, the hospital I'm an ER medic in recently switched our STD sample taking to kits that test it from the urine.
If you didn't know, the test used to be a urethral swab. Management made the switch due to an... incident, to put it lightly.
So, this lady, a tech (90% the same job, an EMT or CNA instead of a paramedic), was taking a sample from this guy. She's having him hold his own Johnson while she sticks the swab in there, because you try and get through your shift touching as few dicks as possible. I guess you can say that for almost any job, really.
Anyways, she's pulling the swab out and I don't know if she hits a sore spot or what. But something happens, the guys adjusts, and it puts tension on the swab. Shes still pulling it out, because this happens quickly, but with the sudden tension in it, now it flings dick pus at her, and she gets it in her eye. Occupational health is now paying to treat her ocular chlamydia and herpes, or so the story goes. How she didn't just steal some narcs and kill herself in the bathroom after that I have no idea.
But that's the reason I was told as to why we take the samples from the urine now.
Mrspilsbury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get gonorrhoea of the mouth and eye, oral thrush, even hpv can affect that area. Plus oral herpes and genital herpes being two distinct strains is not exactly correct anymore. Either hsv1 or hsv2 can cause herpes sores pretty much anywhere on your body. As peoples sexual behaviour has changed in the last little while its more common to be exposed to the "oral" strain (hsv1) in the genital area and thus get genital herpes caused by the oral strain and vice versa. You get the sores where you were exposed to them therefore you can get herpes anywhere on your body pretty much. Genitals and mouths are common areas because the tissue there is thin and more likely to allow to virus in.
AUniquePerspective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know the HPV that they vaccinate girls against so they don't get cervical cancer? In Canada, they want to vaccinate the boys too because there's an increase in HPV related throat cancer in Canadian men. So... often enough that it's a public health issue.
BCJunglist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HPV is probably the most common oral std. It spreads like wildfire so you you play a skin flute that's infected you're gonna have a bad time.
snozzleberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm doing research on oral HPV and one of the highest risk factors is oral sex. Oral hpv is also one of the leading causes of oropharyngeal cancer now.
ShawnCCMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What you are refrencing is Hepres Gingivostomaitis. It is essentially an oral herpes infection of inner oral cavity including gums, lips, and cheecks. Very painful in most cases. The part about a stomach colostomy stoma is different, stoma is a multi function word in medicine.
GreenAce92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey child, want mommy/daddy's herpes? here, drink from this cup... awe...
hahaha... from a Google search: Parents do not pass on genital herpes to their children through any normal ...
Also remember when you're in a party passing that brown-cig around, just remember... you might gain something extra, "biological souvenir" if you will
cautionjaniebites ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my (ex)husband was in the Navy, inevitably there'd be several, if not dozens of men at medical with 'clap of the yap'
RagingRedHerpes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Finally, something I can help with.
HSV-1 causes "cold sores" on the mouth, and up to 80% of the population has this virus. However, HSV-1 may also be transmitted to the genitals through oral/genital sex and about 40% of genital herpes is caused by HSV-1. Up to 22% of sexually active adults have genital herpes caused by HSV-2.
It's not all bad though. You can still fuck. There's an app for that. It's called Tinder.
samkostka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god why did I look up what a stoma looks like.
That was something I didn't need or want to see.
BreezieDahlia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine got chlamydia in her mouth, the side effects were horreeendous bronchitis, she said it felt like a fucking wooden spike was lodged in her throat. It was cleared and cured by anti-biotics.
Abrikandilu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get gonorrhea in your throat as well as in your eye. Guess how it gets in your eye...
TheMarlBroMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Japan had an oral std epidemic at one point.
Magicteapotbeliever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What!? Did someone have sex with a stoma?
AlwaysClassyNvrGassy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't need the mental image of that last bit, thanks
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget about HPV. Often leads to cervical cancer in women and oral/throat cancer in men.
Umutuku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"If you were on the college meal plan you'd eat pussy too!"
shadytrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get chlamydia in your eye! Happened to a friend.
Sorry about the nightmares... I wish I didn't know either.
cardinal29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Michael Douglas would disagree with you. Actually oral STDs are becoming more common.
xander_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need to hijack this to ask something I've been wondering -
I've heard of oral herpes and genital herpes, but shouldn't there also be such a thing as anal herpes?
dinosaurpalace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonorrhea is not that uncommon in the throat too
57dimensions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk how often it happens, but I do know of a guy (from medical literature) who got syphilis in his throat/mouth after going down on a girl, he had continuous medical complications over the years. So yeah, not something to treat that lightly.
DruidOfFail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have this co-worker whose wife cheated on him with a cam girl. He found out cause she got clamydia in her mouth. She has the mouth clap. It's in her mouth! We laugh and laugh at him.
SlippingStar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In case no one has told you yet you can get oral herpes in your genitals and genital herpes in your mouth,". The viruses are just specialized for their particular neurons and don't spread to the new areas as easily, but still can.
SchrodingersCatGIFs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a guy who had herpes in his eye. Last time I saw him I was pretty sure he was going to lose his eye.
Neuromalacia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oral STD's happen a lot (given the right exposure!), but mostly don't cause any symptoms so you'll hear less about them. We see a lot of oral gonhorrea in particular, but mostly have to test people routinely to find it - people mostly won't know otherwise.
Source: Infectious Diseases Physician
yeahifuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girlfriends roommate at the time was very worried to find out her boyfriend had oral herpes and had gone down on her.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The last time I got a routine STD test, part of it was throat swabs, so I asked my doctor what the symptoms would be for oral STDs. He said a lot of the time, most oral STDs aren't even going to have any symptoms and if they do, they're usually relatively minor, resembling something like a mild case of strep throat. So if someone contracts one of the bacterial STDs orally and they don't get tested regularly, it will either lay dormant until it gets wiped out the next time the person is prescribed antibiotics, or it will have sore throat symptoms which will probably end up being treated by antibiotics anyway.
magpiekeychain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch out for koalas. They always have chlamydia...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get HSV 1 and 2 on your wedding vegetables or your mouth
xxtoejamfootballxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get HSV2 orally, not just HSV1
caninuswhitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oral STIs are on the rise, especially HPV which can lead to cancer.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs110/en/
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2016-02-menace-hpvrelated-throat-mouth-cancers.html
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If a person goes down on someone with HPV, that person can develop oral and throat cancers.
Quest4Queso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's late, but you technically can get oral clamydia. There's no FDA approved test for it though, so you really can't know 100% but if you go down on a girl/guy who has chlamydia, then you can contract oral chlamydia
HideAndStayHidden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know you can get chlamydia in your throat. And it's often mistaken for strep throat, which is fine because it's treated the same.
huffmonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dishwasher I worked with had gonorrhea in his throat. He really liked sucking dicks.
SiegeLion1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost got oral chlamydia from a girl who I thought didn't have an STI because I went to go down on her and then her dogs ran into the room and it was a bit too awkward.
I just got regular chlamydia instead.
ronin1066 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HPV can cause cancer of the mouth.
myparentsbasemnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonerhea of the throat is definitely a thing.
Source: my... uh... friend got it once.
happybadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On Okinawa, there is a strip club outside of one of the military bases that used to be famous for the banana show. Generations of US military witnessed the majesty of the banana show. A stripper, the same stripper for something like 30-40 years, would birth a banana and cut slices off as it came out of her. These fell into the waiting mouth of whomever was too new to understand the consequences of sexual contact with a stripper on an island full of military.
Oral chlamydia and oral gonorrhea were frequent staples of Monday sick call for decades.
turkalurkrage ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:45:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it was on an ask reddit thread a while back but some kid had his wisdom teeth taken out then munched questionable box, he got chlamydia or syphilis I forget which in the empty tooth holes. his parents thought it was dry socket. nope. STDS.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oral herpes and genital herpes is the same kind of herpes.
stackered ยท 1695 points ยท Posted at 22:15:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you show her how?
(๏ปฟ อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
subtropicalyland ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 22:23:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you implying about me? Haha.
stackered ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 22:27:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that you gave her mouth a lesson she'd never forget :O
Typical_Adc ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 22:36:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And AIDS!
Guitbass ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:54:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learning AIDS?
buster2Xk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:33:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hearing AIDS, from aural sex.
WilliamBott ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AND MY AXE!
TheDerpofYork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
KillKingNew ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:41:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's always one...
Alltta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Big if true
Male_strom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For you
AussieMoisture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:19:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lesion*
GurthQuake94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And she carried that lesson with her the rest of her days
TiffanyBee ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:18:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That you told her to say, "ahh."
Telope ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:22:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's not implying anything. You said yourself that you had her...
wlee1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That you have mouth herpes
Male_strom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AKA merpes
goodtimebutterfly ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:42:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ayy lmfao
zodar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:09:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it would be irresponsible for him not to.
Megmca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
8O
stev0supreemo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In education, they call that a teachable moment.
sparr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. I shared a chapstick with her.
Misharum_Kittum ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:31:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A doctor friend of mine did pretty much the same thing during his residency. Asked how a patient got some STI or another in the throat. Laughter was had and he figured it out in a matter of seconds. The guy is very smart, just very... traditional. That situation had never occurred to him as possible before that moment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude... he hasn't even begun to live life
I_POTATO_PEOPLE ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:47:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oral herpes and pharyngeal gonorrhea are really common.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:25:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A baby born to a mother with an STD can get it all over.
JustVern ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:41:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something I can talk about!
I'm a retired jailer. Some years ago, while working in a women's dormitory styled jail, I discovered one of the inmates face deep in a new girl's crotch.
Three days after splitting the giver and receiver up, nearly half of the dorm began complaining about vaginal problems.
Then the 'giver' started complaining that she may have Strep throat.
Turns out the new girl had a case of gonorrhea, the 'eater' contracted it then spread it around via pleasuring nearly half of the lonely girls in the dorm for a small fee of commissary items (i.e. pastries, chips, candy, etc.)
There was much medication being slung around that unit for the next several days.
Good times.
Fablemaster44 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am 23, had absolutely zero idea getting an STD in mouth was possible
n3gr0_am1g0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last semester I was studying for finals next to a group of nursing major who were engaged in a lively debate about whether any STD could be transmitted sexually. After ten minutes of back and forth they decided they would ask their professor during the review session.
Lington ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A nursing student? Shouldn't they have some prior knowledge of things in general related to health?
subtropicalyland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why they're students, to learn this stuff :) everyone has to start somewhere.
Penis-Butt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a college biology class, the teacher was describing what semen was made of, and a girl asked if it was true that eating semen is good for you.
What I found most funny about this was not that she asked it, but the notion that some guy had probably told her that and the implications of her believing it.
StevesBitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:50:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend had a(n?) STD in her eye.
She also thought "For oral use" meant using it in her vagina.
I have many, many more stories about her. She might not be the brightest but she's a great friend and I love her.
thermobollocks ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:30:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can show him or her a few ways.
drinkthebleach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feel bad for her boyfriend.
aquoad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh you sweet summer child..."
cheesymoonshadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sweet, summer child...
assortedgnomes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sister of one of my exes got the clap in her ass. Ended up being hospitalized for a few days. It's not just your mouth...
get_salled ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine is an optometrist and has to explain to mothers how their daughters get crabs in their eyes.
bullti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait till she sees a patient who has one on their anus
Spotgaai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the girls in my class (all nursing students) seriously thought she couldn't get an STD because she was a girl
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:04:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read about a guy who had an STD in his nose
Stamboolie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wrote software once for an STD clinic there were myriad codes for different STD's and where you could catch them. It was an eye opener.
SecondChinSerenade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you show him how? (๏ปฟ อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
baialsk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a nursing student? wtf lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you answered her in great detail with hand puppets and other visual aids.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair there's a reason UTIs are more common among women and that's because female anatomy makes that very issue more likely to happen. (Of course for women and their anatomy PinV sex is another big cause). So I mean not the stupidest question though I assume you got some snickers.
Zamharos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember correctly she said for girls it could be if they wipe back to front or something and for guys if you're a baby and you poop you're diaper as a baby it could happen.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely true.
St3fanAx3l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well...
majorfloof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my nurse friends (3rd year of nursing) asked "when a guy fingers you does it reach your ovaries" -_-
caughtBoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes when you go down on a girl and you find a jolly rancher in your mouth, that is an STD
cerebal_bawlsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm only gonna show you this one time..."
Hyndergogen1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.... You can get STD's in your mouth? How do you avoid that?
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abstinence. Kidding, though that's the only 100% way. Using condoms and dental dams during oral sex. As well as being tested and making sure your partner was as well.
ThunderKunt65 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Biology class in high school I think junior sophomore year. We are talking about parts of the brain. Kid raises his hand and says but I thought the scrutiny was a part of your brain and it did that. Every starts dying of laughter and then says you can't get mad if someone calls you a dickhead.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here, I'll show you.
muchasgaseous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the family residents was talking to us a pleasant old man who had herpes on his forehead, but she couldn't possibly imagine how it had gotten there. Needless to say, there was much laughter in the background.
kellaorion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A nursing student was really upset once in the bio study hall because she heard that heavy exercise caused a lactic acid build up. "I've got to tell my sister to stop running! She's lactose intolerant and could get really sick!"
My classmates and I just looked at each other.
cutelyaware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heard about a high school biology class where they looked at their own cheek swabs. One girl saw a moving cell and called over her teacher to check it out, and before he could think it through, the nerd yelled "Wow, that's a sperm cell!"
Fablemaster44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am 23, had absolutely zero idea getting and STD in mouth was possible
SurvivorPrisonMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blowing a cock with a nasty boil and puss on it?
_Genome_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got a medical friend who told me about someone getting an STD in/around the hole where their colostomy bag goes in 0_0
You do the math.
QueenParvati ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you show her?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"well suszy, when a mommy and daddy love each other, they have sex. Then, daddy asks mommy if she 'especially loves him' and she proceeds to 'show her affections'...
"...Little does mommy know, daddy's been screwing the ass off their hot neighbor, a smokin little blonde from philly with a mouth full of gohnaherpasyphilitus (literally). Daddy also doesn't know of his second partners "bumplius uglius" and is asymptomatic..."
"...3 weeks later, both of them come to us complaining of their symptoms: we diagnose them, a marriage is ruined and life goes on."
-spam- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked at a communicable diseases lab, we got a lot of eye swabs for ghono.
katiedid05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of a story my mother told me back in the day. She went to a Christian college (where in the 1980's you could get kicked out for getting pregnant) and her nursing teachers taught the class about pregnancy tests by having the students take them. Two girls in her class got positive ones.
nononopotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"But oral isn't sex!!"
splein23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry not totally medical but I once had an entire class of EMT students laugh at me when I asked if ambulance vehicles had automatic chains. We were talking about responding to calls in bad weather. It was so awesome when the teacher told the class that they existed they all looked like assholes for laughing at me. He didn't say the asshole part but the way he responded was pretty awesome still. Sorry, that's like my one story where I look cool at the end and not like an idiot.
PrincessIzNotPleased ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Allow me to demonstrate.
Donovanr54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you tell her or show her??
Death_trip27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now if you get one in the ear. That's impressive
theimpspeaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Innocence? Try ignorance. Yet more evidence of the importance of the need for sex education.
TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're called cold sores.
Bronze_Dragon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:45:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Demonstrate using a Jolly Rancher.
ATLEMT ยท 334 points ยท Posted at 02:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a paramedic. I delivered a baby in the back of the ambulance and placed it on the mothers chest. I asked her what it's name was (can't remember if the was a boy or girl) and she looked at me and said "I thought you named it"
I really should have ran with it but I was too surprised that she actually thought that.
CreatrixAnima ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 03:51:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I Christen thee Snoo von Humperdinck!"
6and7 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 10:08:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What?.. Oh! ATLEMT, that's the name, all caps"
ATLEMT ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. I really thought "you think doctors are coming up with some of these dumb names you hear?"
TryUsingScience ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:53:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either she was a single mother, or she's had at least one discussion with the baby's father where they both agreed that they're pretty sure baby names come from the doctor. And did no one ever ask her what she was going to name it? "Oh, I don't know, whatever the doctor names it of course." "Yeah that makes sense. Hope you get a good one!"
simcowking ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:51:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be they were asked "what's it's name" which would get a "we dunno yet"
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who was an EMT, he said one of the things that was most annoying to him was that poor Hispanic immigrants would wait until labor was well under way, then call an ambulance to deliver the baby. Whenever he delivered a baby, the parents would often ask what his name was, they would always name the baby after him. He started saying his name was "Placenta" and he has children named after him.
Crazylittleloon ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:21:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's kind of sweet that they named their babies after him just because he delivered them.
ARKB1rd44 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 14:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she had twins (boy and girl) you could have named them Denise and Denephew.
music_ackbar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:08:34 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You...
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Uh...
Fuck it. Take your upvote and just get outta here.
pugmommy4life420 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shall name her optimus prime!!!
SenorRaoul ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:00:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you should have told her that once the kid is old enough their nemesis will get to name them. and it sure as hell won't be Gary.
RECOGNI7E ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:55:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You missed a golden opportunity! There could be a little ATLEMT running around out there!
Hawt_Dawg_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You lost a prime opportunity
NassemSauce ยท 13509 points ยท Posted at 21:05:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a patient for a follow up after three ER visits in as many days for asthma. He was from another country, so this was the first time I ever met him. His lungs sound absolutely terrible, but he swears he is taking the inhaler every 2-4 hours with no relief. This raises suspicion to me, as the same meds are working in the ER. I ask him to show me how he is using it. He holds it about a foot away from his mouth and does two puffs like Binaca and swallows. I felt really bad, he had never received any education about his illness or medications.
dreamingofinnisfree ยท 4049 points ยท Posted at 22:16:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My great grandmother used to do this. She was stubborn and wouldn't take any advice. So instead my family asked me to use mine when I was with her so she could see the proper way. I don't remember if she ever caught on.
Idontstandout ยท 1209 points ยท Posted at 23:45:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Btw, my grandma used to say there were two ways of smoking: The one where you only inhale to your mouth And the one that you inhale into your lungs. She would only inhale into her mouth. She smoked unfiltered cigarettes and lived to 85, outliving grandpa by 10 years. I don't know if maybe your grandma had a similar view of inhalation as mine did.
Also, standing by for the jokes about my grandma.
Edit: Apologies for grammar. In the rush of response euphoria, I butchered my native language.
Thank you OP and parent OP for allowing us to derail this thread into smoking.
*My highest comment thread is about my gramma's smoking style. Has to be Reddit. It does seem that it could make it's own post: Reddit, which style of smoking....
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 887 points ยท Posted at 00:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not wrong, those are two ways you can smoke. I doubt it's much better for you though, her extended lifespan probably just comes down to luck.
Idontstandout ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 00:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have only occasionally smoked, but not daily or even weekly. I have only tried inhaling into the mouth. I've read somewhere that you get some effects and it's still bad for your teeth.
Btw, cuban cigars was why I would smoke.
Adamsoski ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 01:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just so you know you smoke cigarettes and cigars differently - cigars you inhale only into your mouth. Gives you mouth cancer instead of lung cancer :)
Idontstandout ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 01:14:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen the pictures of people that had their jaw removed. Gonna try and stay away from both.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you wanna try dip, it's way safer
whisperingsage ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a dip.
FrakkerMakker ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll just leave this here
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just propaganda, dip cures most cancers and alleviates the pain caused by canker sores.
ATomatoAmI ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awww, you fuck.
This thread seems like Reddit in a nutshell. Or maybe I'm just drunk.
josecuervo2107 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why only once? Not your thing?
KinseyH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Dip will fuck you up as well.
Idontstandout ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:53:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would if I hadn't heard this story:
I worked with a guy that dipped. He always had a can in his car for this. [you know what's coming, but you're gonna keep reading anyway cuz it's our nature}. On hot day while she was waiting for him to get out of work, she took a sip. Yes, a sip of his dip juice from lord knows how long. They broke-up shortly after.
cycle_schumacher ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:34:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I smoked for years and smoked several cigars over the period and always pulled the smoke into lungs. Never knew you weren't supposed to do that.
Boukish ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:06:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd wager you were smoking cigarillos, not cigars. Trying to inhale an entire cigar is just asking for a headache.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:41:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who buys cigarillos without intending to cut it open and remove all the tobacco needs to reevaluate their life
pokepat460 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:58:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actual nice ciggarillos exist, they aren't all Swishers and White Owls. The concept of a cigar being thin doesn't automatically mean it has throwaway filler and is only for pot.
Deeliciousness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think when people hear cigarillo, they just automatically assume philly or something.
JoeAAStevens ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
totally; "cigarillo" to most doesn't mean "a (possibly exquisite) small cigar", but rather exclusively "a cheap blunt wrap in a foil baggy"
Raknith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wanted to magically see a number of how many cigarillos sold are actually used for blunts vs how many are smoked. And similarly I've wondered what the cigarillo companies think of this.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say it's over 50%
Raknith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit probably well over 50. I've seen someone smoking a cigarillo like one time in my life.
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have literally never heard of this but every store that feels cigarettes/cigarillos also sells zigzags so everyone just buys that (or carries a pipe).
Ryaman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a headache for most people. More common is nausea and vomiting.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people inhale it, it's just way harsher so people who's lungs aren't used to it have a coughing fit and puke from that plus the nicotine rush
greyjackal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're a cigarette smoker and the first few times you smoke a cigar you reflexively inhale.
Then spend 10 minutes coughing and turning a vague shade of green
Jdoggcrash ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:35:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean yeah you're supposed to only inhale into your mouth with cigars. However I never smoke them that way on the extremely rare occasion I buy one. I don't really get much effect if I only inhale into the mouth.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 02:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Theres actually no solid proof of any cancer resulting from proper cigars(proper hand rolled cigars from cured and aged tobacco)
The interesting thing is there is multiple documented health benefits from moderate cigar smoking.
nihilillist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:14:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm gonna call bullshit on that one. Do you have a source? I'm sure that a hand rolled cigar with tobacco that hasn't been treated with chemicals like the kind in cigarettes is less likely to cause cancer, but it definitely still increases your chance of getting it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google it, youll find conflicting information, but my point is valid, there hasnt been solid proof linking cigars to it. Theres a few reasons, one is that almost all tobacco studies have been done with cigarettes. Im not saying cigars are 100% harmless, just that there is no solid proof and that they are much better than cigarettes
Part of the reason why they are so much better is the aging and curing process of the tobacco(which can be as long as 50 years, i think the minimum is around 10) gets rid of a lot of the harmful things.
But yeah almost everything about cigars just lumps them in with cigarettes and basically says they are just bigger worse cigarettes, which just isnt true.
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:42:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If all you ever did was inhale into the mouth you would get the effects, but your tolerance for nicotine and other chemicals goes way up very quickly and you start having to lung inhale just to feel anything. Eventually that stops doing anything too.
Apparently there's a gene in some people that causes nicotine to not give them a buzz at all which is interesting
Never smoked a cigar and I've been off smoking for a year or so now so I may never get to try :( from what I've read you aren't meant to lung inhale cigars anyways but someone else may be able to speak to that better than me
Kheyman ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:32:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only ever feel anything if I've stopped for months. Otherwise, I'm not smoking to feel good, but smoking to not feel bad. There's this hunger you need to sate.
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:38:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't smoke for very long. Started at 16/17 and I'd smoke two or three cigarettes a day till I was 18, started getting anxious from the nicotine and slowed down until I just didn't do it anymore (19 now). I always got the nicotine buzz though.
I can't handle any stimulants anymore so no caffeine, nicotine, Ritalin etc. Any drug that that effects the way I feel makes me anxious/gives me panic attacks so no alcohol or benzos either really. Stimulants are especially bad. It kinda blows, even though I'm way healthier I'd go back if I had the choice. Not really sure why I wrote this out but fuck it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:38:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like your brain is helping you not be addicted.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still just a pharmacy student so don't take my word as law or anything, but I've always been interested in anxiety disorders since my family has a pretty significant history with them. There are a wide range of drug classes that have been effectively used to treat anxiety. Anti-depressants, anti-convulsants, antihistamines, and even beta-blockers (normally used for heart conditions) could potentially help. If you're worried about changing your mental state I've heard that hydroxizine (antihistamine, normally used for itching) has been used as a reactionary therapy to treat symptoms whenever the patient can feel an attack coming on without trying to completely suppress whatever is causing the anxiety in the first place.
So if you feel like you're going to lose control, there are some options out there that won't cause stimulation and may not cause the mind-altering effects some common treatments have. Your doctor might have to do some digging, but there's stuff out there.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. I hope you get better then. It sounds like your brain is keeping you from getting addicted to life.
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha that's a very good way to put it
MadIllusion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anxiety usually comes from somewhere in a person's history. Consider talking to a counselor.
If it is a genetic thing maybe look into Buspar. It is not a benzo and is prescribed for anxiety. A PCP or psychiatrist would be who to talk to.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MadIllusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry to hear that, processing these experiences, perhaps traumas, is something we just are not taught or prepared for. The things that are hardest to talk about are often the keys to recovery. You have invisible, open wounds that are in need of healing. These are the sources where anxiety flows out of.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never found quitting hard. I quit smoking(sober and daily) cold turkey from like 12 a day. Now I smoke when I'm hammered which is like maybe 3 times a month. That's weird that alcohol gives you anxiety.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SiegeLion1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking weed gave me anxiety, alcohol would cause panic attacks for quite a long time after but it went away eventually once I made myself get used to it. Any sort of stimulant would also give me a panic attack but yet again slowly exposing myself to it helped me deal with it. Maybe that could work for you?
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a good idea. I'm 19 and this only just started so I think I'll give it a while before I start going for it again
SiegeLion1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it was pretty fucking awful for me too at first. Don't worry too much, even though it sometimes feels like it's getting worse it does get better over time once you learn how you cope with it, but just remember that you will learn to cope with it and it does get better.
jacls0608 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like it's very possible you're not fully inhaling. Did you get a buzz when you used to smoke?
HoneybeeGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm not human until I've had a coffee and a cig. But my friends had better be careful with their drugs, don't want to become an addict!"
Idontstandout ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:48:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked with people suffering from some addictions and they seem to all tell me the same : " the thoughts about it (drug of choice) never go away" It's what has kept me from doing it often. It didn't give me a buzz, but since they were expensive cigars, I tried them a few times. I hope you keep staying strong about quitting.
_t00l_ ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:33:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's extremely true
ifyouhaveany ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the exact same with people who have food addictions. It's amazing to me that there is so much more understanding for people with drug addictions, but not so with food addictions (and they have to eat to live).
Idontstandout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does appear that food can be highly habit-forming if not addictive. It also seems that there are far more variables involved with food. I've seen studies where sleep style and the bacteria in your stomach contribute to overeating.
SiegeLion1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:56:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I quit smoking about 3 months ago, I'd been smoking for about 6 years.
You do keep thinking about it quite frequently, sometimes it almost feels like you need to smoke, though that's mostly when people smoke around me.
Don't start, even just to try it out, it isn't worth it.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I especially feel that what you say applies to opiates. Good advice.
HoneybeeGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It turns into just wanting it rather than needing it. Especially with smoking which fits into a routine so well.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I'll wait till my intelligence catches up with the look. Here's hoping.
ApocaRUFF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally, you smoke cigars and pipes for the hobby and the flavors of tobacco, rather than to get a nicotine buzz/high.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The movies make pipe smoking look fun and the smells from the tobacco used is enticing. I feel like I would buy a deer-stalker hat if I got into it, though wouldn't do it in public.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:33:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Idontstandout ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:42:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard people that can do this. I don't think I am one, so I try hard not to do addictive drugs. If I remember correctly, it has a great amount to do with genetics. You may have been blessed with your ability by your family. Look into your ancestor's history and see if there's any correlation.
SomeDonkus1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:00:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy right now
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn straight
Gluteusmedius2000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:37:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should not be so proud of a complete lack of empathy
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:31:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do know of at least one friend who never felt anything from smoking until one day he bummed a cigarette from me out of boredom and just about fell over (and now smokes on and off at parties).
Nicotine hits me really hard, I'd get borderline high whenever I would smoke
grantb747 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you just have really strong cigarettes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was it like smoking weed once?
Have you never done it since?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was fucking lit.
And no that shit kills.
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I'm a lightweight with everything. I'd smoke Dunhill menthols which I don't think are particularly strong
Groo_Grux_King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, for like 5 seconds.
runonandonandonanon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're probably not giving it enough of a chance. If you can just power through those first few packs, addiction will kick in and you'll be amazed you ever went without them.
Don't give up now -- you've got this!!!
Terminalspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love smoking. Never made it into a habit though, so I'll probably smoke a few cigarettes for like one week about once a year or so. I get guilty and anxious about the smoking though, so I never smoke more than a pack in any one year.
VoltGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Talk about a blessing in disguise.
Terminalspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think growing up in the 90s/00s when we were bombarded with anti-smoking PSAs helped out a lot. Smoking cigarettes is very enjoyable for me, but I get pretty paranoid about it. Then again, I don't have a very addictive personality anyway.
daemon_service ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:16:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, cigars are mainly about the taste. I smoke cigars sometimes and I don't even care about any effects. Still, one does get the nicotine though, as a cigar usually has from 10 to 20 times the nicotine of a cigarette, luckily my tolerance is better now so I can enjoy a tasty cigar without getting dizzy (or like after my first cigar, a nicotine shock).
Anyways, you could still get addicted, and cigars can cause damage to one's mouth, throat, teeth, etc but at least you don't end up with tar in your lounges (I even smoke joints with my mouth for that reason). The reason cigars aren't known to be that damaging though, is because most cigar smokers smoke for pleasure and don't end up chain smoking like cigarette smokers do. In fact, cigarette smoking is even considered disgusting by lots of cigar smokers.
zonginator ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 01:28:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't just smoke joint without lung inhaling, that's just a waste of weed. You need to inhale into your lungs if you wanna get high
wholesalefish ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:42:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amen.
TheKlonipinKid ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:53:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poeple know the difference too... This one new smoker kept smoking like that and i could tell because the smoke was the same colors and his cheeks puffed up..
Cut him off when i brought up and he was likr im totally inhaling
TahnGee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah hope he doesn't ask me for a session. Dry season down here, can't afford to bum-puff my dope bro!
daemon_service ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:18:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Spain. Weed is dirt cheap, I can go to a store, buy some seeds, and have 5 pickle jars of weed 6 months later. It might take me more joints but I do absorb THC through my mouth, and I get to enjoy the taste, unlike those poor bastards who smoke a joint like it's the last joint they'll ever smoke, keeping smoke in their lounges until there's almost nothing left.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:26:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's good that those people keep all of their smoking in their lounges. There's no need to smoke in every room of the house. It's nice to have it all confined to a single room so you can escape the smoke when you're done, and the lounge is probably the most appropriate room in the house for smoking.
TahnGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ty for that inb4
Jake_56 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a fucking amateur with that weed comment...
usaprc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as if being a weed master is something to be proud of??
Jake_56 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:49:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but saying you smoke weed by inhaling and holding in your mouth sounds like you trying to get drunk by pouring alcohol on your for arm hoping it will absorb into your skin I mean it could happen but you look like a fucking tool either way.
Jake_56 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also why not snoop Dogg, Willie nelson, trailer park boys, Doug Benson and tons more would disagree with you.
daemon_service ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 02:25:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can go to a store and buy some seeds and end up with a 1.5 meter tall marijuana plant, I can enjoy several joints a sitting, instead of rolling half a gram and get as high as possible on it just for the effect.
poorexcuses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke cigars periodically and just taste the smoke. But I don't do it often cos of the risk of mouth cancers. My brother used to smoke a pipe from time to time. Dunno if he still does.
Expert__Witness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's correct, you don't inhale cigars to your lungs. Just draw the smoke to your mouth. It's about the flavor and relaxation. When I quit cigarettes in 2012 I never stopped smoking cigars. I'm a happier person for it.
ughsicles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a long time, I thought you inhaled cigars into your lungs, and I felt preeeeeeetty stupid when I realized that's not how that works.
BE20Driver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That must have been very unpleasant.
ughsicles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
OhiENT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a reason you inhale when you smoke weed. There's a reason you inhale when you smoke cigs.
There's a reason you do not inhale when you smoke cigars.
When smoking Marijuana or tobacco, you transport the chemical (in this case thc/nicotine) into your body by burning the product. To get the full effects of the drug, you inhale the smoke into your lungs. Your lungs absorb the chemical. Then the chemical is absorbed into the bloodstream and is transported to your brain via the cardiovascular system.
Along with the chemical of choice, your lungs are also absorbing different chemicals that are coming off what you're burning. Those chemicals can be harmful. You are also putting tar into your lungs when you inhale.
If you only bring the smoke into your mouth, it is scientifically less harmful. When you smoke cigars the tobacco is so strong you aren't supposed to inhale. You enjoy the taste and smell of it. If you would inhale, most people get very nauseated, vomit, or pass out. Cigars will put you on your ass if you inhale.
Small amounts of nicotine are absorbed through your gums and enter your bloodstream if you only "mouth it". I'm not sure about thc but I've definitley never gotten high by not inhaling it.
Anyways..mouthing smoke is nowhere near as bad as inhaling smoke.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I smoke I don't get a buzz unless I'm VERY drunk. Don't know if that's related.
Not a regular smoker, I don't think it's just tolerance.
I have extremely high tolerance to cannabis too, coincidentally.
I also am very resistant to addictive effects.
Guess I lucked out.
romjpn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have smoked very infrequently cigarettes while I was younger. Never got addicted for some reason.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
never thought of it as a gene thing, always thought the reason I never got nicotine rush was because of all the other stimulants Ive used (nothing illegal just lots of the legal stuff i was up to 2g of caffeine at one point to even feel a buzz )
agent0731 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably have that then since smoking does nothing for me at all. Tried a cig several times and that was the end of that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you dont inhale proper cigars
ShamrockShart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a former smoker (twenty years ago) I recently had a brilliant idea to buy some Nicorette gum since nicotine is supposely a stimulant and I wanted a break from coffee to keep me away on a road trip. Suspected I'd get something of a little buzz or rush or something.
I chewed one piece and it made me nothing but nauseated. No buzz. No rush or even calm or relaxation. Just nausea.
cantgrowneckbeardAMA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:46:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to clarify, you should NOT be lung inhaling cigars. You will have a very bad experience very quickly.
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Headache, dizzy, puke, repeat.
Swirl it in your mouth. Do NOT inhale.
TheKlonipinKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But its not impossible to inhale it like that dude was suggesting....you get sick from the nicotine not from coughing
cantgrowneckbeardAMA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not impossible but certainly not recommended for casual cigar smokers.
DontPressAltF4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oral cancer is definitely a thing.
HarryPhajynuhz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is how you are supposed to smoke cigars - you do not inhale them. It is not that there are two ways to inhale, you either inhale or you don't. Inhaling means breathing into your lungs, smoking and not inhaling is just breathing into your mouth. Cigarettes and drugs you inhale - everything else is just into the mouth.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could someone explain to me why you would ever not inale into your lungs? I mean, what's the point? Do people just enjoy mouth/throat/gum/everything cancer and smelling like a bum?
bennyh6813 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:26:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You physically can't inhale cigar smoke due to the alkalinity of the smoke (cigarettes are acidic and aren't absorbed into mouth membranes) anyways unless you have some sort of extremely fucked up lungs or super lungs.
Zaphyr1785 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:44:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh, yes you can.
bennyh6813 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll buy you gold if you take a video of you smoking an entire cigar while inhaling to your lungs and blowing out your nose. I'll laugh when you cough until you puke.
Zaphyr1785 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:47:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what you said at all, you said it was physically impossible to inhale cigar smoke, and it isn't. Of course you'll get fucking sick and throw up from inhaling a full cigar, it's fucking loaded with nicotine. Cigars have enough nicotine that you get buzzed just from keeping the smoke in your mouth. Also I'm not sure why you randomly added that conditional that I'd have to exhale through my nose, that seems extremely random.
I've inhaled cigar smoke before though and it's really not THAT bad, it's just not very pleasant.
Also lots of crazy cigar smokers do actually inhale them AND exhale through their nose (some don't even inhale the smoke but still exhale through their nose as well)
bennyh6813 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:53:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see how you could. You'll literally always cough. It's not something you can just build an "immunity" up against.
TheKlonipinKid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats why you speak for youself..you can inhale cigars .
And im pretty sure nicotine can be absorbed bucally or subbucally and i forget the one under your toungue. .but mouth membranes lol
Zaphyr1785 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sublingually, but yeah the entire mouth can absorb nicotine and other drugs. Those terms (buccal and sublingual) are usually just referring to a specific delivery method (like suboxone strips for sublingual use) as opposed to identifying the only places drugs can be absorbed (though there are differences in how readily certain areas let in drugs)
TheKlonipinKid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats prolly how i know them then lmao smh...
Fentanyl patchs i used to fold up and cheek em for rec purposes
Zaphyr1785 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:16:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never tried those, they're impossible to find unless you seek em out in my experience. Pretty sure I wouldn't like Fent though, I'm all about that slow burn
TheKlonipinKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea i just use to net work like a mofo...and this was years ago so people sidint know what they had.... But yea dangerous becaus3 of that..od twoce
Zaphyr1785 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever smoked cigarettes or a vape? You actually do build an immunity of sorts, you get desensitized to the harsh feeling in your throat and lungs and I think your cilia getting fucked from smoking a lot actually makes the reflex to cough diminish as well. This is why when smokers quit they start coughing up fucking gallons of nasty shit, the cilia recover and start pushing out all the stuff that they couldn't before.
I started smoking my sub-ohm vape with 18mg nicotine juice until I could get new juice (traditionally 1.5-6mg is used on these) and it's really harsh and makes most people cough and/or sick at first but after I used it for a few days it was nothing.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just be careful with use. Adam Carolla said something that made sense to me: " I only do it a little so that I can keep doing it forever. If I were to do it all of the time, I'd get sick and would have to stop." (Paraphrased)
bennyh6813 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:31:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vape&cigarette smoke is not even similar to cigar smoke.
Zaphyr1785 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point is that it's really harsh and disgusting at first but then eventually it's like inhaling air.
KnockMellyKnock ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 01:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And also because women tend to live longer. Out of spite.
TeaAndTacos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just...really like spite.
flyboy_za ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was husbands died first out of choice.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I have a grandmother who lived to the same age smoking 40 a day every day. Even died from unrelated illness.
Some people just get lucky.
Crossing my fingers I got those genes.
Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you can just not smoke and you won't have to cross your fingers.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking or not I still hope I got strong genes dude, no need to get high-horsey about it
Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, I hadn't thought of that, sorry. I thought you were specifically talking about living long despite smoking.
Terminalspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a little surprised at how many people I know who have smoked all their lives(I'm talking since early teens), and make it into their 70s, 80s without any obvious problems.
mttdesignz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:28:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not "smoking will cause lung cancer" it's "if you have lung cancer and are a smoker, 99.9% it's because of the cigs"
Panda_Boners ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the difference between lung cancer and mouth cancer.
Philias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. People always have an anecdote like 'but my nana smoked all her life, she lived to 130!' as if that somehow means that smoking is healthy or something.
Lanoir97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke cigars every so occasionally that way. I like the taste, but if you inhale that shit it feels like you got kicked in the chest by a mule.
2074red2074 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We've actually not done any studies on only drawing it into your mouth. We have no idea if it's better or not.
OmnipotenceRocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Two ways of inhaling. One causes lung cancer, one causes mouth cancer.
Mysta02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the difference between pipe and cigarette smokers. The first get mouth cancer; the second, lung cancer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its a lot better, its also how you smoke cigars, you dont inhale cigars.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a third way you can smoke, but it involves the anus. It's about as practical as the mouth only method.
Stranger-Thingies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hell on your gums and throat. Throat cancer is actually very rare without provocation. Smoking is one of the few things that can reliably cause it.
Deeliciousness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it's better. Inhaling means the smoke contacts your lungs and your mouth. The other way you skip contact with the lungs. Even ignoring how much more deadly lung diseases are than oral ones, it's obvious to see that one is better.
degeneratelabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look it up, inhaling or not makes quite the difference. Both are unhealthy though.
faployst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
85 isn't extended, it's actually below average life expectancy for women
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant in contrast to his grandfather as he said in his post, not vs the average life expectancy
DemonicLiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a great aunt who smoked like a freight train. Like 2-3 packs a day until she died in her 90s. She finally died of old age. Never had any lung problems. But she never actually inhaled the smoke into her lungs. She would always just draw it into her mouth, and then blow it out.
As a former smoker myself I never understood the point if you weren't going to inhale. The cost and smell alone are cons enough to just not smoke at all if you're not going to inhale. But she always talked about loving the taste and then bragged about how the doctor told her he couldn't believe she was a smoker. I think as a young girl no one ever taught her to actually inhale, and later none of us ever had the heart to tell her she wasn't actually "smoking."
mttdesignz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking your last phrase... she was not really a smoker, and all she ever tasted was the worst part of smoking a cigarette, which is already bad in itself.
Faerhun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If anything its only better for your lungs and either the same or worse for your mouth.
ApocaRUFF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a lot better, actually. Cigar and pipe smokers don't (unless they're uninformed or are doing it to replace cigarette addiction) inhale into the lungs. Sure, it's not healthy(though some studies have shown that the stress relief benefits can apparently outweigh the health negatives in overall health), but it won't do anywhere near the damage that inhaling into the lungs will. The only major health concern is gum infection, but proper dental hygiene essentially nullifies that. You can't really scrub/floss/rinse your lungs, but you can your mouth. I looked into the potentials of mouth cancer as a result of smoking cigars/pipes before I got into the hobby, and I couldn't find much of anything that suggested that there was any real risk. Sure, it's possible, but just as severely cutting your finger and getting an infection while preparing food is a risk, and it's probably a higher risk too.
Dip, on the other hand, will put you at much, much larger risk for mouth cancer.
Generally, if you're smoking for a hobby and the flavors, no matter what you're smoking, you won't inhale into the lungs.
Kozeyekan_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen a third way, but I think going to that corner of the internet on a work computer would be a mistake.
iseethehudson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
true 2 types, this was common when i gre up. smoking, but not sucking it into your lungs, ws called not inhaling in my neighberhood. taking a puff and sucking it only into your mouth was called not-inhaling, and you were not a real smoker/man/ etc and would be called out for "not inhaling". in reality the effect of nicotine only happens when you inhale, same as with reefer,crack,meth or any drug that works by using th lungs to get the medication into the bloodstream
GuruBushHippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma smoked two packs a day unfiltered, and her mother, and her father (tobacco farmers) smoked a pipe quite a lot. All three lived to be so old their minds went. The grandma is still alive, quit about 20 years ago.
Brentatious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine it's just a preference for where you want your cancer. Mouth or lungs, but sometimes you get a bonus when going for lungs.
longtimegoneMTGO ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:54:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your grandma was correct.
To be specific, the method you describe is the standard way of smoking cigars.
The lining of your mouth is not all that dissimilar to the lining of your lungs, as far as absorbing chemicals from the air. The lungs are mostly just different because they have a MUCH higher surface area thanks to all sorts of specialized structures.
Nicotine is absorbed by holding smoke in your mouth in exactly the same way as if you inhaled, it's just only absorbing a fraction as much.
Idontstandout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL, thanks. Good thing I did occasionally.
ScorpioLaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, you don't get as much of the chemicals inside your lungs.
thesnarkisaboojum ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:24:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you'll get mouth cancer instead of
orallung cancer.jrhoffa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean lung cancer?
thesnarkisaboojum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yep.
jrhoffa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because "oral" means "mouthular"
ApocaRUFF ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It depends. Smoking a cigar a day won't put you at much higher risk of getting mouth cancer than your average risk of contracting it just from existing, so long as you practice proper dental/mouth hygiene.
Dip is the only real culprit of tobacco-based mouth cancer.
YouAreAllNaked ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, shit, if no one is going to do it, I might as well.
So, she only took it into to her mouth, eh?
Idontstandout ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:34:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. I was expecting something like that or how she also didnt swallow. My poor gramms, I can feel her pulling my ears already.
YouAreAllNaked ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:38:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both ears? So she is pulling your head.
WhyWhere is she pulling your head when you talk about swallowing?Idontstandout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna use that visual to "last" a little longer later.
YouAreAllNaked ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if later is with someone else then while you are with them you are really thinking of your grandma?
Idontstandout ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:23:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's either that or I do the obligatory: " Give me 15 minutes and it'll be your turn.....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
YouAreAllNaked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...grandma's turn?
Okay, give me a break, there's only so,much I can beat the dead horse.
_jenaraeshun ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cigars you hold the smoke in your mouth, cigs youre supposed to inhale to your lungs. Im not saying she smoke cigars, but she was probably using the same cigar smoking method to get her nicotine fix.
Idontstandout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:03:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see that. Plus, they were unfiltered, so like a cheaper cigar maybe?
bunnicula_darklady ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:05:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a genetic marker for inhaling smoke shallow/deep. Deep inhale increases the chances of cancer... fun fact
thesnarkisaboojum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Increases the chances of lung cancer. Mouth-smokers will just get mouth cancer. That genetic marker thing is really interesting though, I wonder if people with the "deep inhale" marker are more likely to become long-term smokers โ since I'd say 90% of smokers do deep inhale. If nothing else, it probably helps us get addicted.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoah! That's even crazier! Fact: stranger than social norms.
bunnicula_darklady ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah- can't remember what i was watching but a man had his genome mapped and was told about his markers- that one 'deep inhale' was one of his
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL and TMYK (The More You Know... a USA thing on TV)
ImReallyFuckingBored ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would never joke about her like that. She was a lovely woman and the world is a worse place without her. RIP Grandma, you were the best suck for a buck I ever met.
Idontstandout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What have I started.
Expert__Witness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:30:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she's right. She smoked cigarettes like cigars (to your mouth for flavor) instead of to your lungs, for that sweet hug of death. God how I miss that hug. . .
AverageJoe5555 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:44:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smoked the same way as grandma. I never inhaled into my lungs.
FuriousMarsupial ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your grandma is Bill Clinton?
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to think hard on that one. Kept thinking it was a Lewinski reference.
b3rn13mac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:18:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you inhale into your lungs you get lung cancer and mouth cancer
if you inhale into your mouth you only get mouth cancer
source: i am an internet man
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The internet: the great source for misinformation.
What you say is intuitive, i wonder if anyone has done a study like this. I would hypothesize that strict oral inhilation might lead to oral cancer sooner as one would hold the smoke in longer inside the mouth versus taking it into the lungs.
*had to look up Hypothesize to be sure I used it correctly. Webster says: "to make a hypothesis" thanks dictionary. Now I know /s/
b3rn13mac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was going for but it was mostly a joke
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, a vivisection of joke always ends up in its death. I'm sorry I made you explain it. Now I became the guy that's always on /r/jokes saying :"I don't get it?"
_My_Angry_Account_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother used to say, "If you can't believe in anything, believe in love. Two people meet and decide to share their lives together, and bring another life into this world. A child that can one day share the same love as their parents, who are ideally of the same ethnicity because if there's one thing I don't believe in, it's mixed race couples."
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should also be on /r/jokes
"Set in their ways" comes to mind.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I raaaaaarely smoke, and when I do I inhale only in my mouth. For the longest time I thought that was the right way. Now I just do it so I can still enjoy the action of smoking, without the nasty inhalation or the ridiculous vape.
Idontstandout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As far as I've learned from this thread, it's not totally incorrect.
Avoidingsnail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those 2 versions are for cigs and cigars lol
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know
Avoidingsnail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not supposed to lung inhale cigars according to a lot of old people I talk to.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is evidence your grandma was right. They found smokers that switched to a "light" cigarette had their cancers develop in the deepest part of the lung. This was found out that these smokers inhaled deeper and held the smoke longer to compensate for the now lighter levels of nicotine etc.
Rockonfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm standing by too but it seems pretty barren commander
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like my gramma! Just kidding gramma. *Starts packing bags for inevitable trip to hell.
FormlessAllness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lungs feels better. Gives you more of a head buzz. Mouth gives you a little taste, buzz, and good burn.
Melonfarmer86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma just died at 84 from COPD (from lung cancer she had at 41. She continued to smoke into her 60s. I did some research on smoking and COPD and it's estimated that smoking only takes 3.5 years off your life while COPD (beyond stage one) takes 9.5 years. It's hard thinking about what I would have done with that extra time with my Grammy (or even if she had that 3.5 years where she wasn't sick). She was also a stubborn one and refused medicines until she really couldn't anymore.
BiteTheBullet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in college, my friend, Billy, showed me how to smoke pot without inhaling. Later, I heard he attempted to help a coworker smoke a cigar using only her vagina. It's definitely possible to smoke without inhaling.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tommy Lee Jones is in the house.
generic93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was right, and I continue to smoke her way when I do. Inhaling into your mouth is how most people smoke cigars and pipe, because the raw tobacco is alot more harsh then what's normally in cigarettes, but I started with cigars and the habit passed over when I started with cigarettes
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you're making want to take up the pipe. I will of course, be careful to not fall into it habitually.
generic93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It takes a bit to get the technique down with tamping down the tobacco, but I enjoyed it while I did smoke. I went to cigarettes after I stopped drinking outside and had to cut smoking into short bursts
Idontstandout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the new laws about smoking, it's as if you're a criminal. Some places you have to be a certain distance away from the bar. Like you're in a horrible time-out. I know smoking can be bad and has very harmful effects, but there should be a better attempt to control the smoke from it. Vaping seems to be a step in the right direction.
I don't like second-hand smoke, but the people I know that smoke often, are not bad people.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I am sure hundreds have said, that's how you smoke a cigar. Mouth only. You'll puke if you inhale into your lungs more than a couple of times. (No stories of badass grampas inhaling cigars. Idgaf. Seen it.)
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of this:
Pinocchio smoking a cigar
How I love this movie. Also, the way I felt when I first tried eating a cigarette because it smelled nice. For anyone that has not done this, it's a very sharp flavor on the sides of your tongue, the flakes get stuck to your mouth like a peanut butter tick (if those existed).
Snap__Dragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh! And all this time I just thought that was a weird quirk of my grandmother's.
She lived to be 89.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could be old school cool, though I've been reading the comments and it seems to have a good reason.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, grandma was a fucking moron.
Idontstandout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope to be that fucking or lucky to live that age. It did seem my gramma got something out of it since she would smoke hourly and it always had to be unfiltered.
dweezil12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother was a life long smoker that lived to be 94. She had me take to the ER for emphazema and a young doctor asked her about smoking. At the time she was 87,she told the doctor she was not going to quit. He told her," you're 87, if you want to smoke,smoke as much as you want to!"
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that with people that have been drinking daily for years that stopping or quitting is more detrimental because the body cannot function as well without it. Anyone heard of this?
dweezil12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother was more about a t your age do whatever you want.
But I've heard of that with alcoholics.
internet_observer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not wrong. The mouth way is how people smoke cigars. Don't get me wrong, it's still really bad for you and cigar smokers have higher rates of throat and mouth cancer.
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazingly, she died to complications associated with diabetes.
AryaStarkBaratheon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:53:37 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's actually not wrong.
I'm allergic to smoke, and I have friends that love Hooka and the vape stuff. Yes hooka bothers me and I can only be around it for a short bit before I start coughing. Vapes don't bother me one bit.
So occasionally I'll be with them and they'll be smoking something that smells good and offer to let me try it. I've never tried breathing into my lungs with a vape or anything, sure I would choke badly.
But what I do is hold my breath, then just suck a bit of air into my mouth via the vape until I taste it. I take a moment to enjoy the taste, then blow it back out and breathe.
I actually started doing this to help with weight control at one point because I use the vape flavors with 0 tobacco. I just like the flavors. Favorite is a caramel apple one.
Idontstandout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:15 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL there are vape flavors without nicotine.
AryaStarkBaratheon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes there are! Most vape liquid comes in various dosages of nicotine. So if someone is trying to quit they can start on a high dose and go lower. Most flavors have a 0 nicotine kind. :) The more you know, right?
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:40 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one of the reasons I Reddit ;)
AryaStarkBaratheon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:21 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes :) New facts are awesome!
Canrex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not very good at jokes, let's see...
Your grandma was probably at a higher risk for mouth cancer than the average smoker!
Idontstandout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you've been to /r/jokes and also seen he pun-offs, any joke is good.
vividboarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But true. My grandfather did the same and got mouth and face cancer. Still bad, but not a death sentence.
Idontstandout ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:41:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit: where not even your dear old grandma that has passed on, is safe.
sixfingerdiscount ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:26:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as your great-grandmother was stillborn.
That'll mess up a weekend.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in high school, there was a very scrawny, not athletic kid on the wrestling team with me. He had a portable nebulizer that he would carry around with him. Why you would try to wrestle if you carry around a fucking nebulizer is beyond me.
Side note- I had contracted pneumonia a year prior and used an Albuterol inhaler following that whenever I was doing athletic things.
Anyway, I saw this kid take his inhaler once. He would breatheout completely, inhale a deep breath, put the inhaler in his mouth, seal his lips around it, and then puff the inhaler into his mouth, remove the inhaler and close his lips. He would hold his breath for about 5 seconds, and then exhale.
I tried to tell him what was going on and why his inhalers didn't work for him but the nebulizer did work- it's because of his inability to think. He assured me he was doing it right.
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. You mean he'd puff out, into the inhaler? Like, totally opposite of the point?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
almost. he'd puff it into his mouth, but not into his lungs, since they were already full. And just hold it in his mouth for a few seconds, like you do with a cigar. Then exhale.
He wasn't very sharp.
thegirlhasnoname971 ยท 6439 points ยท Posted at 22:32:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a diabetic patient who kept coming back with extremely high sugars. We asked him if he was following the regiment we taught him...testing his blood sugar, using the sliding scale, measuring the correct dose of insulin in the syringe etc. He went through all the steps and it sounded like he was doing everything right.
We asked him to demonstrate the steps he took so we could observe and correct any mistakes he may have been making. He did everything write until the very last step. He drew up the insulin in his syringe, pulled an orange out if his bag, injected the insulin into the orange, then ate it.
Turns out when he was taught to practice how to give himself subcutaneous injections with oranges he didn't realize he actually needed to inject himself for the insulin to do its job.
perscitia ยท 2037 points ยท Posted at 23:01:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you repost this from that "what's the stupidest thing a patient has ever done" thread from a while ago or does this same guy just keep turning up in hospitals?
(I mention because it's my favourite stupid person story to quote at people.)
[deleted] ยท 606 points ยท Posted at 23:08:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably an urban myth then.
little_carmine_ ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 23:35:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say what gives it away as untrue is that he proceeded to eat the orange. If he was simply demonstrating the steps he wouldn't do that. Unless he was really stupi..wait
DFWV ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 00:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Type 1 diabetic checking in. If the dude was eating an insulin-infused orange...props to that guy.
Insulin is nasty.
firstoff ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:39:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lack of insulin is nastier...
DFWV ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yes, of course. I meant it tastes nasty. I'd be fucked without my injections.
WiFiForeheadWrinkles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Genuinely curious - what does insulin taste like?
MooseV2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:54:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's 99.7% water/phenol so it smells/tastes like hospital bandaids.
DFWV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard/impossible to describe. What does an orange taste like? What does the color blue look like?
spazmodial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can describe a similar taste though, or a combination of such, or smells for an idea. Don't leave us hanging!
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What does an orange taste like?"
"Well, ever had a sweet lemon? Basically that."
"What does blood taste like?"
"Ever licked something made of iron? No? Well, lick it and that's what it tastes like."
DFWV ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:22:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does that make lemonade orange juice?
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah; they're pretty similar.
DiaDeLosMuertos ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Such a nasty insulin.
bubbleheadbob2000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unrelated:
When you were being taught how get your rig set up, would you actually use insulin or would it be water (or something)? I can't imagine insulin is cheap.
PrincessofRampage ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:06:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just went through training for my 19 month old diabetic daughter, they used real insulin for my training. It is very expensive but it expires quickly so it may be old or something?
bubbleheadbob2000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear about your daughter. I really wish you strength.
That kind of makes OPs story make a more little sense. As a kid, medicine tastes bad. So putting it into an orange to try and "mask" the flavor wouldn't seem too weird.
PrincessofRampage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you i appreciate it! And well I was instructed not to give her carb/sugary stuff after insulin as a snack, it's only with meal time but who knows what kind of training they had, mine was very intensive because she is so young.
bubbleheadbob2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really wanted to give that poor guy the benefit of the doubt. That's a scary mistake because it's literally life and death.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably was old. Not diabetic but have really bad gut issues and get it nutrition and other meds. I've nutrition is absolutely insane but I know I was taught set up with actual bags and such. (Hell needles and syringes alone are expensive, for that matter). Anyway some nurses I knew would take expired bags and stuff to use for teaching. So more than likely you're probably right.
MoonSpellsPink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear about your child. My son was diagnosed at 22 months. He's almost 20 now. If you ever have any questions or just want someone to chat with, I'm always available. If you send me a pm I can send you my email address. I used to deliver goody bags from jdrf to newly diagnosed families in my area and be the leader of a support group. Best of luck and I'm here if you just need a friend that has been there before.
amethyst_dragoness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical staff here, not a doc. Everytime we start someone on insulin or similar injectable meds, we always walk and talk them through injecting their first dose while injecting it themselves. If they do it correctly the first time, they get the "scary needles" phobia out of the way sooner and are more likely to follow the treatment plan. If they mess up, we can correct it at the start.
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:39:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha I'm laughing that you clarified not being a doctor because doctor's are generally pretty clueless about injectable meds anyhow. Nothing like landing on long term IV nutrition (TPN) and while a nurse is teaching me the doctor walked in, took one look at what we were doing, literally threw her hands in the air as her eyes bulged out of her head and said something along the lines of "Woah! That's way to complicated!" And well, I don't know what you do or how familiar if at all you are with TPN but sure it's more complex than a lot of things but sheesh, that doctor sure didn't help my nerves about learning!!!
amethyst_dragoness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:21:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. I think its because most docs get training and expertise in specialization, and forget some of the lesser things along the way, which is where staff with their expertise comes in to put all the pieces of the healthcare puzzle together. I've no experience with IV nutrition, but watching smart competent docs try to do something they're unfamiliar with is entertaining (when its not life threatening, side note). However, I'm grateful when they know what they're doing and save lives.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh definitely. I agree. Nurses never get enough credit for how much they do either in terms of dispensing meds, patient education, taking care of some down right miserable folks.
It's pretty problematic though the way the US health care system is so highly specialized when so many illnesses cause a broad array of symptoms or lead to secondary health issues so care gets so fractured up (and doctors themselves even complain of this) and I had a PCP once who I genuinely began to wonder what her purpose was since even with the most basic stuff (I mean having the issues I do I don't expect my primary care doc to have the answers for the rare disease stuff, you know?) she'd hand me a sheet of paper with a list of different specialists and circle the phone number for whoever she wanted me to call. The one and only thing she wouldn't outsource for that probably should've been was intractable migraines. I couldn't tolerate the conventional meds but when asked her response was literally "Well, I have migraines." Ugh. But no doubt I owe my life to some great doctors. The IV nutrition stuff though is almost entirely managed by some badass well trained speciality pharmacists, dietician, and infusion nurses though so even give my fractured care rant, it's a really fine example of how well different care providers can work together to take care of people.
MoonSpellsPink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:29:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my son was diagnosed we used little vials of saline. We injected into oranges first. Then we made a circle and everyone injected into the person next to them so we could get the feel of real skin before having to do it on a little kid. It might just depend on what the hospital has available. We were at the largest children's hospital in our state. They probably have a lot more available than a small, rural, general Hospital.
DFWV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow, damn...uh...that was awhile back (like...18 or so years ago?)
I'm almost positive it was saline, though. I don't see any point in them having you use actual insulin when learning how to administer injections (into something other than yourself.)
bubbleheadbob2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! That seemed kind of off to me. Another poster above said they'd just gone through training with their infant and used actual insulin. If it was the latter, OPs story made a little sense.
When I was a kid, I hated taking "yucky medicine". So my parents would mix it into juice or something. So if insulin is gross, I could see how a kid could make the leap to why they put it in an orange and then eat it.
DFWV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see that logic, yeah. But unfortunately, that's just not how insulin works. Ingesting it won't actually do much, if anything.
Also, as far as insulin being yucky is, I can really only comment on the smell of it...and...an indirect taste, if that makes sense. It's odd, because sometimes when you get an injection, you can sort of "taste" it...but like...you're not actually tasting it? It's hard to explain. It's not like overwhelmingly gross...it's just a smell that makes me not want to have actual insulin in my mouth.
bubbleheadbob2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually know exactly what you mean! I had to take a lot of medicines for a long time. There was one (I can't remember the name) that was like that.
Thanks for the info. I am glad to hear it sounds like you are doing well and I wish you strength into the future. Thanks for teaching me something I didn't know!
DFWV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No problem!
VaneWimsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When and why did you eat it?
DFWV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't eat it. It's a smell/taste you get in your mouth when you inject it sometimes.
horus7 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't make any sense to imagine this actually happening. Did he peel the orange first? Or did he start cutting it into quarters while the doctor looked on in interest?
In reality as soon as he started injecting the orange would be the point where you say "ok, here's your problem".
FFXIVpazudora ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:52:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they were too in shock, or just wanted to see what the dude would do, and it was all they could do not to laugh.
Lokmann ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:52:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably If I were a doctor and a patient came in with this and actually injected the orange I would probably wait and see what happens/he did after.
Mercuryblade18 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:21:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it /thathappened
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:44:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They may have instructed him that it was okay to eat after, and took it to mean the orange. But it is more likely a made up story.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They may have instructed him that it was okay to eat after, and took it to mean the orange. But it is more likely a made up story.
UrAssDumIsMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:09:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're user name just isn't right man. Just not right.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But ya gotta admit, it is catchy.
UrAssDumIsMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just had an eight hour nightmare where I was in a room with goatse and I'd scream and turn to look away only to look right into Sauron's eye again. I finally just gave up and climbed inside like a dead tauntaun to stay warm through the night.
namedan ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:07:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With the post where an ACA beneficiary celebrated Obamacare defeat, it's really not too far fetched.
SuckaXXXX ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:55:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I cringed also
ademnus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:05:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the computer repair story of the man who wanted his automatic cupholder fixed.
devoidz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:49:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually had that happen as a tech at best buy. He was upset, but calmed down when we told him we could install a new one. The old one wouldn't move anymore because coffee gunk was all over the cd tray. He was mad because someone laughed at him when he was describing the problem over the phone. This was about 1998.
Vinnie_Vegas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother worked in IT for a large hospital, and will comfortably attest to the fact that this isn't an often repeated myth, but in fact just an insanely common misconception.
Likewise with thinking that the mouse is a pedal.
violetmemphisblue ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:52:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's likely an urban myth...however, I work at a library and we regularly have a lot of mentally handicapped adults who come in and they take instructions absolutely literally. I have to always remind myself to not use any type of idiom or anything with them, because they don't understand. Like, if you say "hop on the computer," most people know that means you're logging on, but several of these adults will take it to literally mean jump up and down on a computer... In these cases, if a nurse or aide just did a quick demonstration and didn't take into account any other issues, it's not that farfetched to think a patient would follow step by step what he'd seen...
Philofelinist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, they're Amelia Bedelias.
Rahkdhwtu3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remeber reading this on sickipedia years ago lol.
ThisMachineKILLS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like someone reciting an urban myth wouldn't use the word "subcutaneous." It's a pretty specific word that I've never heard outside of the context of injections.
thecalmingcollection ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:29 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They would if they were in the medical field. Medical terms become the norm. I don't say "he got a shot" I say "he got an IM".
meme-com-poop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most likely. I heard the same story in Pharmacy classes in college.
togawe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if urban legends are just old timers reposting something that was once true as their own story
RobinsEggTea ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 03:11:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give you a real diabetes story. My grandma was pissed and frustrated that the social worker who came to visit kept insisting she shouldn't be eating a slice of bread with jam on it for breakfast everyday because it's high in sugar.
"There ain't hardly any sugar in that bread and none in the jam! I made it myself! I even picked the berries!"
My mom was having tea with her one day. She checked her sugar and it was high so she went to the freezer and took out some dog berries because they're tart and tart is the opposite of sweet.
I loved my grandma like no other. I aspire to be as strong and compassionate as her. But damn did her lack of access to education put her at a disadvantage.
AryaStarkBaratheon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:08 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing these berries are tart but very high in sugar? She was eating them thinking they would counteract the sugar and doing the opposite?
RobinsEggTea ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:57:19 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're berries. They're always high in sugar. They're nature's jube jubes.
AbanoMex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
some people think like that willingly.
shorty0927 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:35:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Besides the use of "write" instead of "right," the other thing that makes me question the veracity of this post is the use of "regiment." I do medical transcriptions and I've heard doctors mistakenly use "regime," but never "regiment." The correct word is regimen.
2059FF ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he's an army doctor. Yeah that's it.
hamstertoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The misuse of 'regiment' to mean 'regime' is common where I come from.
hackel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean regimen?
hamstertoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seen all three, but it seems regiment and regime are equally common, while regimen is less commonly used. Small sample size and all the usual disclaimer apply.
Edit correction.
KinseyH ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:12:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Regiment is an army unit; regime is a government; regimen is a plan or a process or a series of rules. English speaking medical pros wouldn't confuse them, but non native English speakers might.
hamstertoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:19:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://grammarist.com/usage/regime-regimen/
Regime and regimen are both correct. Regimen feels somewhat archaic though.
hackel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL. Sounds like this use of regime has a slight British bias, so now I'm curious where you're from. To this US American, regimen seems much more natural.
hamstertoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Singapore. Pretty much British English although it's become a lot more international in recent years. Not a language expert nor a native speaker, I just use what feels like the right word and check stuff out when in doubt.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly never realized that regiment and regimen are different words until just now; I only knew "regiment" was a word. But in my dialect, I tend to drop obstruents following nasals (e.g. a /t/ following an /n/), so I pronounce "regiment" as /หษนษ.dอกสษช.mษชnห/ "regimen" anyway.
LentilEater ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:32:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no way, people dont lie on reddit
Jolysh ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:23:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I posted that actually. I was kinda shocked when it came up here with way more upvotes...
gothdreamer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was a story in the book "Chicken Soup for the Nurse's Soul"
thewrittenrift ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.tickld.com/x/jaw/15-actual-things-doctors-have-had-to-tell-their-patients-
snowwalrus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:17:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like a version of the condom-on-the broomstick story. Sex ed workers in India were teaching women to use condoms, so they put them over the end of a broomstick to demonstrate. When the village women showed no change in teen pregnancies, they went to investigate, and found the Indian women were putting the condoms on their broomsticks. That's a famous apocryphal story from health aid workers. I bet there are versions in every field.
CaptRory ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:01:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read a similar story in a Medical Stories Calendar I had.
Rockonfoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you he's ignorant not stupid
Reasonably_Lucid ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:49:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's pretty stupid to think that we can take insulin orally (we can by the way but obviously not the kind he had prescribed) but that it first needs to be injected in an orange.
And how did he explain the needles? Why the fuck would you need a needle just to inject some shit into an orange? And why would they get tossed into a biohazard container if all he did with them was stick them in an orange?
Kid's stupid, cry about it.
Rockonfoo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:55:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if you were never explained anything about insulin or waste products you'd know exactly what to do and wouldn't just copy what you saw? (Which is exactly what we're hard wired to do)
Reasonably_Lucid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what I did: when I was diagnosed I had never used a needle before in my life, nor had I attended the seminar they wanted me to (it was too much), and yet, I new to find a spot on my body that would hurt the least and go for it.
thegirlhasnoname971 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work for a very large facility in a decent sized city, it's possible someone else at the facility posted this story in another thread.
trrSA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the first comment in the chain is from an episode of House MD.
paperconservation101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a diabetic girl enrol in my high school. The father provided to
1) fail to inform us she was insulin dependant diabetic.
2) provide us with her insulin.
3) take 30 minutes to come when we called him.
4) was offended when the Principal yelled at him for 20 minutes and refused to allow the girl back into school until we had the doctor note, her insulin, her snacks and her emergency plan.
auraseer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's very frequently posted by many people in many places. I've been hearing the same story since I went to nursing school. So either there are enormous numbers of really terrible diabetes educators out there, or else some people are just reposting for karma.
FTR, when we teach someone how to use insulin, we have them really inject themselves. Oranges are used for teaching sutures, not injections.
xPurplepatchx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not stupidity, it's ignorance.
Fashiond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Op is likely not a doctor...he spelled "right" as "write." Wouldn't trust a doctor that does that.
DavidRandom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Op doesn't know the difference between "Right" and "Write", I hope they don't actually work as a medical professional.
Hondamousse ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 23:11:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
T1 diabetic here. When they sent me home from the hospital, they gave us saline in vials for me to practice injecting fruit and drawing up the syringe.
My mom was apparently drawing up saline for my injections for at least two weeks before we caught on thankfully it was only for one meal.
felixar90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You had only one meal in 2 weeks?
Yeoooooowww ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:42:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Write? Noted
loonattica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:28:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Righhhhht?
moratnz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:57:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks, since it sounds like he was being responsible and diligent :(
nightpanda893 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:08:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah many of these people I just feel sorry for. They are trying to do the right thing and no one bothered to teach them properly.
Rosie_Cotton_ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:02:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to say this is too ridiculous to be true, but I work with patients.
freekfyre ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:03:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
aww, that's kinda sweet
zatpath ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:04:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor would probably know how to spell, "right."
MT_Straycat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am a transcriptionist. Doctors never spell anything right.
Matti_Matti_Matti ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:50:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but no-one would be able to read it.
clickinhappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised...
fuzzyperson98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also it's not "regiment"
alliupsidedown ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:56:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work for a company that sold diabetes supplies. one time I talked to a nurse who was trying to help a man that had been rubbing the insulin on his skin instead of injecting it!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would that work if you put the insulin in something that can carry it through the skin, like DMSO? Or would the dose be all wrong?
AmericaTheBoydiful ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:31:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you freaking serious?? As a diabetic...this blows my mind. On a slightly related topic, my very first prescription fill for insulin after I was diagnosed (I was 12), had the wrong instructions printed on it. It read, "Inject into left ear". Thankfully my father and I are not dumb as rocks, so we called the pharmacy that filled our order, they nearly had a heart attack, and told us to proceed with normal injection sites. 19 years later, my control has never been better.
smithoski ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:11:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I have to say "unwrap and insert this suppository. The suppository is smooth. The wrapper had rough foil corners that hurt. Peel where it says 'peel here' and then unwrap the whole thing before inserting it rectally, which means this goes where poop comes out, meaning your anus, not your vagina or urethra. Can you now explain to me how to use this rectal suppository so that I know you understand?"
That's an exaggeration of how much I talk down to people, but people will literally cut their buttholes by not reading directions. They're so stupid sometimes.
Clockfaces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can this really be true???
PandaEatsRage ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:31:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been retold once or twice in other threads. So either same person posting, urban myth, or multiple people retarded in the same way.
DongLaiCha ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:03:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never underestimate the ineptitude of the general public.
Totallynotatheif ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well at least he wasn't testing himself with ketone strips
ISayISayISitonU ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A doctor who can't tell "write" from "right"? Gonna take my chances with WebMd.
DiabeticBrotha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god
Jawshee_pdx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find this to be highly unlikely. He would have gone into coma or had some other major complication.
Medaviation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am diabetic. This had me in tears.
lastjabberwocky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, just how? From what I can assume from just the smell of insulin, it had to taste TERRIBLE.
escrimadragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know how to spell subcutaneous and use it correctly in context, yet don't know how to use "regimen" instead of "regiment" and "right" instead of "write?" I'm baffled.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this guy's defense, this seems pretty reasonable. He was just doing what he was shown. What other time would it be proper to do something painful to yourself when what was demonstrated was totally painless?
thewrittenrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you are full of shit.
http://www.tickld.com/x/jaw/15-actual-things-doctors-have-had-to-tell-their-patients-
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow. When I was diagnosed at 3 YO. They wouldn't let me go until my mom followed the correct steps and measurements on her own and injected it into my arm. She cried a lot but did it after a couple of hours. Glad I didn't remember that and just learned how to do it since I was young.
Welldonegoodshow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny but also sad.
081890 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle was a paramedic before he became a firefighter. His truck responded to a call of an unconscious guy. They get there and there is white powder everywhere and white little granuals. He asked the people around the unconscious guy "wtf is this shit" they responded with "he's got the suggas". So again my uncle very confused said "what the fuck is suggas" they responded "he needs sugar to feel better." These people were pouring sugar in his nose and ears to help this diabetic guy that passed out because he blood sugar was too low. People if you have diabetes please fucking educate the people around you! They can save your life!!
terazosin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice fake story. Everyone in Healthcare knows it, so we all know you're lying.
NeatAnecdoteBrother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
APiousCultist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why the fuck did they not at least get him to inject himself in front of them to begin with to make sure he wasn't going to faint or stab the wrong bits full of holes.
HappyHound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm blaming the medical personnel who were "teaching" him.
PostPostModernism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do I want to ask how insulin tastes?
veganjoe91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking lol
GoochAssassin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is awesome.
atashworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This seems to be a pretty widespread phenomena. I've heard many reports of the same.
somedelightfulmoron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god
coopiecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious!
fuckclemson69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He wrote out everything until the last step?
retropogo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a doctor, write?
Regitlagneb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thought of an insulin flavored orange caused a little gag reflex.
doctorscurvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least he wasn't going to get scurvy.
TrivialAntics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spells subcutaneous flawlessly > uses the word "write" instead of "right."
Suspect.
tylurnt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right*
Sorry had to. It was bothering me
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐
Calisto823 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a Kevin
Senator_Chickpea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Royal Welch Fusiliers or the Black Watch?
arielatkinson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one bothered by "write" instead of right?
irwin1003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was likely prescribed it in the hospital before having it at home. They were giving it to him in the hospital as an injection. Either he was extremely slow or this is a myth.
ChippyCuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A regimen is a routine; a regiment is s group of soldiers :)
b0v1n3r3x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fact that you refer to his regimen as a regiment and say that he did everything "write" makes me seriously question your level pf education and medical training.
imnotwhatiseem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you face palm?
Pls_Send_Steam_Codes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
question, does insulin have to be IV'd to be useful, does it have at least some oral bioavailability? Would he still have been getting SOME insulin in his system with this method? Sorry if that's a dumb question, obviously the bioavailability wasn't good enough to keep him out of the hospital but I'm just curious if it has any affect whatsoever taken orally
Beanzii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would eating the orange filled with insulin not help his blood sugar?
rocktropolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of a girl I knew a few years ago. Her dog had extremely dry skin and her vet recommended a high regular dose of fish oil. We got by her house about a week later and the place reeks of fish oil. She comes out and said the oil is working but her dog is so gross she can't pet her or anything. Of course, she'd been just rubbing it on the dogs coat every day instead of putting it her food. She literally stopped being friends with us after we pointed it out because it made her feel so stupid
LexieJordie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually this happened to me with a patient once, we need to stop teaching people how to inject themselves with fruit. I refuse to use fruit and use a teddy bear or a pillow instead. Source:Diabetes Educator
Edit: another Educator used fruit to teach the patient, did the same thing you did to investigate and found the insulin in the orange.
AlexanderESmith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...
Dodger944 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:02 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/Aww
FallenCypher25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:13 on February 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm diabetic.
This hurts.
bryanpcox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
regimentregimenwriterighttheycallme1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.......
6gentexan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:11:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I would do it...I can't imagine poking a needle in myself lol
batshitcrazy5150 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Write. *right
ScarletNumbers ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:59:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I have to tell an adult the difference between write and right.
oak11 ยท 679 points ยท Posted at 22:19:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if real story or just taking a bit from a House episode
maybe_little_pinch ยท 516 points ยท Posted at 22:37:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure the House episode was based off of real life. I have heard lots of inhaler stories from respiratory therapists having to educate people on how to use inhalers. Quite a lot of people don't understand how to breathe in.
oak11 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:39:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. I seem to recall, not sure where I got this information, that a lot of the medical cases shown on shows such as House take from real life stories from physicians.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:56:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Flamburghur ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:18:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I tried weed I did this to myself by breathing through my nose. Totally by reflex because it was so weird to deliberately inhale particles/vapor. (I've obviously never smoked cigarettes or used an inhaler or anything.)
Since I really did want to try it, I held my nose shut and only let myself breathe in through my mouth, fully sealed on the mouthpiece. Worked like a charm. Got high.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky for me I've read enough posts from stoners on reddit to know you should keep it down longer to get high before my first (and currently only) time. Apparently I had a lot, but I still didn't even really feel it. Idk if it was because I was drunk or because I'm heavy weight like I am with alcohol, but I ate a lot of coolie dough so that was fun.
oak11 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 12:04:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If smoking weed you shouldn't hold it in for too long. The coughing is actually what's activating the thc in your system.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the coughing activates it? Like just the act of coughing? Because holding longer made me cough more.
nihilillist ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, he's wrong. The THC is absorbed by the tissues in your lungs and then sent into the bloodstream. People say that coughing gets you higher but I think that's because your lungs are opening up to try to get more oxygen so it absorbs more.
You are definitely supposed to be holding it down as long as you can. It doesn't matter if you cough or not.
frankyb89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me foreeeeever to get one of my friends to breathe in correctly. For some reason it was a really difficult task for him. But for some reason he was just fine with a vaporizer. He's a special one that one.
ShamrockShart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always assumed George Clinton was a proficient weed smoker.
uDurDMS8M0rZ6Im59I2R ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:36:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the instructions for my inhaler 3 or 4 times and I learned something new every time.
Those things just don't make any sense. It's lucky they have a dose built in or I'd probably drain the whole bottle by holding it down a millisecond too long or something.
heavymetalengineer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a dry powder emergency inhaler (the one you take when you start getting chesty). The people who designed it don't seem to understand how breathing works. I start feeling chesty and I'm expected to draw a sharp deep breath on through it. If I could do that I wouldn't need it. Changed to a spacer and "spray" inhaler soon after my first and last big attack.
Alix1723 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the spacer was the default way to use it, I think people would get the idea a lot quicker - puff some medicine into the spacer, then breathe in from the mouthpiece at the other end. The whole breathe-and-puff-at-the-same-time motion isn't as intuitive as it seems
heavymetalengineer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeh my mate is a doctor and says if he had his way they'd all come with spacers. I agree. Spacer just makes it foolproof and I think (although could be placebo effect) it works better.
WhitestKidYouKnow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:26:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist checking in. I've not been a pharmacist for long (almost 2 years), but, I've encountered at LEAST 3 people who use their inhalers by holding it 6-8 inches from their mouth. I've also had diabetics that didn't realize they needed the pen needles to put on the tip of the insulin pens, so they were just leaking insulin in their tummy thinking they were getting medication.
maybe_little_pinch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The RNs on my unit hate those pens. Some of them they say they aren't always sure it's working correctly.
passwordforgeterer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, you should be able to tell if it worked correctly in a few hours, less for most cases if you were to actually check frequently when you're worried it didn't work. Those pens are amazing for someone who has to take shots. They're much easier to use than syringes (better dose consistency, more accurate and less room for error) and they're less painful because you don't have to dull the needle by sticking it into a vial first.
mementomori4 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually been advised by a pharmacist to hold it 2-3 inches away -- in order for the particles to space out and be inhaled more fully. Same principle as a spacer, which is what I use instead. I have no idea if this is accurate, though.
CX316 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're using some weird-ass inhaler, no, your pharmacist is an idiot. That sort of distance you're losing the vast majority of the dose into the air, at least with the spacer (I'm assuming that's the same thing as a nebuliser) you're still inhaling the entire dose because it's an enclosed space and the drug has nowhere to go.
WhitestKidYouKnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any pharmacist who told you that is wrong. As another person said, you wouldn't be getting the full dose since its not in an inclosed space.
I've also had one person spray it on their neck like perfume/cologne, thinking it would "soak in".
Instances like this is why I never fear my job as a pharmacist can be done by robots.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, don't you worry. If other service jobs are anything to go by you're going to get replaced by an automated answering machine and 10 years down the road people will be wondering why there is a sudden spike in asthma problems.
two_soup_liz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True. Am a respiratory therapist, can confirm. I've had maybe 20 or 30 patients like this. Docs should have RT's instruct for MDI's instead of RN's.
notawalkeryet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another rt chiming in, have had more patients than I can count not know how to use their inhalers/spacers. Or use the wrong one for relief etc.
heavymetalengineer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are dry powder relievers a thing? They require a deep sharp breath which is something I can't do by the time I need one. I now have my asthma much better managed but was I using that type of inhaler wrong or did they just suck?
Katyafan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, they sucked, can confirm.
CX316 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends, really. Over the years I had a bunch of different inhalers. Nowadays I skip the doctor and just go to the pharmacy and convince them I need an emergency replacement ventalin inhaler because the doctors seem to like getting creative with what they make me use.
Worst one I remember was the rotorhaler. It was a small pair of interlocking plastic pieces, one side had a mouth hole and the other had a small round hole in it. You were then prescribed the asthma meds (bryccinyl? Something like that) in the form of a plastic capsule resembling a normal pill. You inserted the capsule into the round hole, twisted the two parts of the inhaler opposite directions to break it open, then took a sharp breath through the mouthpiece. That thing was awful.
Then I got upgraded to needing two tubuhalers, those ones were a similar concept but had the powder in an internal reservoir that twisting the bottom of the inhaler would dose out the right amount for you.
Then I switched to the aerosol ones using salbutamol/ventalin, and by far the best is the normal "puffer". It's cheap, it's effective, but you still gotta take deep hard breaths if you want it to work because you need the drugs to get into the lungs nice and deep. A lot of people have trouble with the timing or the breathing, and my doctor the last time I got a script for an inhaler just assumed I was an idiot despite me never having an issue with timing the breath, and prescribed me an autohaler. Now, firstly the autohaler cost about three times as much as the puffer, at least. Same dosage, same number of doses per inhaler, so way more expensive overall. It was also bulkier because it was a puffer canister inside a chunky device with a trigger. What you did was cock back the hammer like a revolver to activate the mechanism, then you put it in your mouth and inhale sharply. The air movement from the inhalation would set off the spring mechanism and fire the puffer. Great for people who can't work out when to breathe, but by golly that thing was the bane of my existence because you looked like a right wander using it, it was bulky, it took more time to use, and it was expensive.
deejay1974 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness, how to use an inhaler is something that goes through fads. In forty years with asthma I have been taught several contradictory methods by doctors and nurses, and been chastised for using the last method with the new guy. (Eg - at one time several puffs in quick succession inhaled with a single breath hold used to be okay, now it's not, you have to do it singly). Doctors forget that we live with this illness over many decades, and in many cases stayed alive just fine doing the once-accepted thing that the latest study considers less effective than the current preferred thing. So you do start to take the finger wagging with a grain of salt.
whiskeycrotch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. My husband is a RT and you wouldn't believe some of the stories he tells me.
MrJuwi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As if "inhaler" wasn't self explanatory...
LordNoodles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:22:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take a hit from
an asthma puffer
i do it wrong
I was never good at smoking bong
I'm not that good at breathing in
LeahBrahms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are they still, you know... alive?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Automatic breathing and deliberately breathing in medication are two different actions.
theanswerisforty-two ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a patient with asthma and every single asthma/allergy doctor I have ever seen has made me show them how I take my inhaler to make sure I'm doing it right (I am).
It's amazing to me how many times I've heard from them that most of their patients don't get any medicine from their inhaler.
oneeighthirish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I play the trumpet. I've spent years taking lessons on how to breathe.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For sure. Honestly even when people aren't doing anything as strange as soap mentioned, it's still very easy to use an inhaler wrong. My asthmatic mother taught me wrong in childhood. Then I finally had a doc who was big on education teach me the right way so I taught my mom. Thankfully my asthma has always been pretty mild but my moms wasn't so sheesh. She was doing two rapid puffs and not breathing in with it. Hard to explain and honestly easy to overlook because it "looks like" taking an inhaler fine.
They also make something called a "spacer" that goes between the end of the inhaler and your mouth for this exact reason. They're pretty commonly given to kids (think I had one). So then you don't have to worry about timing your inhale with the puff of medicine.
Minnesota_Nice_87 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:14:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son with Aspergers cannot blow his nose. We've tried explaining it. His teachers have too. I hope someday the light bulb will go on.
jinxandrisks ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 22:49:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure the one on House sprayed her neck like it was perfume. At least this guy had the sense to aim at the mouth.
oak11 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:48:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. I forgot that part.
Islero47 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:49:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, the House episode they spray it on their throat, like sunblock.
This person references binanca, which indicates it's what they thought at the moment, some time around 1997.
demonshreder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The scene in question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG2DVoRP86g
mattski96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The woman from house just puffed it on her neck, it sounds like this person understood it had to be taken through the mouth
oak11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like I said I forgot that part. I've honestly only seen up until House almost gets Wilson fired for forging scripts.
MrsDew16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I seen this exact thing on Untold Stories Of The ER. Lol
OrinMacGregor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's also the guy (in House) who has a cockroach/some bug in his ear and freaks out in the waiting room. Saw that same thing on Untold Stories of the ER years prior. Except in the Untold Stories version the guy was so terrified of cockroaches he was basically catatonic and couldn't speak, only scream when the roach moved around or bit him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. I just made a comment about that. But That lady sparyed it on her neck like perfume.
Anodynic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin gave me his electric cigarette once. I blew on it and didn't know why it didn't work. People don't inherently have knowledge on all things. It might seem simple that you breathe in what you get from an inhaler, but if you have never seen one used and are used to other medicines such as cold medicines being spray relief on the tongue or nasal relief, how would you know automatically to puff then breathe in the airpuff without being taught?
fuidiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geez, just said the same before I saw this, that show covers everything indeed.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:56:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a new style? Suddenly I'm very worried...
FluxxxCapacitard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relatively new(er). Dry powder inhalers -vs- metered dose inhalers. When I say "newer", people seem to know the style I am talking about. When I say dry powder inhaler or MDI, they look at me stupid. They have been around for quite some time.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh right, the purple one is a dry powder inhaler. Advair, IIRC. I used it once when I had bronchitis. Worked well!
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah. I have the metered dose kind. I know how to inhale properly. I will admit to sucking on a dead inhaler a couple times...
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. I still push while I inhale...how the fuck else do I get the stuff in my lungs????????
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:54:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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swanneckflask ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:41:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a PA student who is also in an urban underserved area it's a sad reality. Though I must say I respect medical professionals who take the time with these individuals to make sure they're getting the proper care. To me it illustrates those who actually care about their patients.
snarkumstance ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:34:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Binaca hahaha
sharktoothache ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:00:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does it mean?
KinseyH ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way back in the 80s, Binaca was a fresh breath spray thing. Very minty, delivered via an inhaler type device.
FluxxxCapacitard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't heard that word since the 80s. I think I just had an LSD flashback!
wioneo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:26:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lecturer in med school specifically told us to always ask patients to demonstrate how they use their inhaler specifically to avoid this.
CrazyTillItHurts ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:43:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. I feel pissed off every time I have to pick up an inhaler that they give me a 10 minute play about how it should be done. Perhaps I should just chill out
othersomethings ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:04:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband was given an inhaler for bronchitis last fall, and that's how he was using it. I told him that didn't make sense or look right (never seen anyone use one that way) and he swore up and down that's how the doctor told him to use it. Spray it about 8 inches in front of his face and then breathe in.
brockobear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah no. They tell you not to stick it in your mouth unless you have a spacer, but it should be about two finger widths away and you need to breath in deeply as you push the puffer.
I could see the two finger widths being misinterpreted, but you can tell your husband he's hilariously wrong. 8 inches in front of your face will do nothing.
FeatherMD ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:55:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't an episode of Dr House have a lady spray her inhaler like that? Or like a perfume?
Eugostodetortas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is he okay now?
leinyann ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:01:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
for my annual asthma review appointments, I always hear stories like this. idk how somebody can be prescribed a medication and not given a five minute talk on how to use it :/
xina08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:51:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is so sad. Can't tell us where he was from?
Scary-Brandon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like how you say "he was from another country, so this was the first time I ever met him" like you've met the entire population of your country
stevie_still_wonders ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me feel bad.
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that Binanca thing just a joke from Dumb and Dumber? Its implying that the guy is dumb for not just spraying it in his mouth, right? Here I've been spraying it directly into my mouth, am I going to survive doc?
Zidlijan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminded me of doctor house
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet we he finally hit it right, his eyes opened wide with instant relief. I feel really bad for him, because I'll go and refill my inhaler halfway before all the puffs are used, because a new one inhaler hits harder.
alextrader223 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Picturing him doing that in my head and feel bad for laughing
spicytacoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of a guy who would spray it on a spoon then try to take it.
WolfgangDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least it wasn't some well-to-do old woman who was spraying it on her neck like perfume.
Quackattackaggie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blast from the fresh mouthed past right there.
Mezmorizor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, inhalers don't actually help with asthma attacks in the first place. They just make you feel better. If he was actually having hospital worthy asthma attacks, it's probably a good thing he didn't know how to use it.
Stroker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked in a peds ED. We regularly had to tell parents that the kids are supposed to inhale the albuterol through the neb and not drink it.
torreezard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This story is very similar to the episode in house where this one patient comes into the clinic for asthma too and an inhaler. When House asks how she uses it, she sprays it like perfume on the sides of her neck
DiaDeLosMuertos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bianca?
charrcheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of an episode of House where he asks an angry old lady to show him how she uses her inhaler. She sprays it on her neck like it's perfume .. his expression was priceless lol
SilasX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that the whole purpose of the pointless dance at the pharmacy?
legrac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I found your patient: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDHEEV0M62Y
Money_on_the_table ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of that scene from House!
redpanda215 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was diagnosed with asthma around 1.5 years old, so I never received any sort of education about it either.. I usually just calm myself down w/o an inhaler.
TheAsian1nvasion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't this cause a terrible yeast infection in the patient's mouth?
hiploser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom also has asthma and has an inhaler for it. She was using it the way I assume most people think to use an inhaler (lips around the mouthpiece, spray, and inhale). At one of her most recent trips to the doctor, however, the doctor apparently told her to use it the way you describe the patient doing so (i.e. hold it a few inches away from your mouth, spray, and then breathe in with your mouth).
It seemed counterintuitive to me and now I'm here wondering which way is actually correct.
villageelliot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't realize he was doing it wrong when you administered it to him in the ER?
itsmrsbungle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why everyone should use a spacer with their inhaler. If you don't, you have people putting in their mouth, which is incorrect. Or you have someone holding a foot from their mouth. It should be around 3 inches from the mouth.
Architektual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I thought I was in the People who have been hit by the "slime" from nickelodeon, what was it like? thread...
Locknlawl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sooooo you're House?
AriFreljord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You probably changed his life...educating him on how to use an inhaler.
Schnooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient who would turn their head and puff twice over their shoulder. I asked them why they did bag, they said they did it exactly as demonstrated to them by the doctor.
I presume it was how the doctor demonstrated without actually putting their mouth on the patients inhaler.
Hareborne1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient puff her inhaler on her neck when I asked her to demonstrate. I'm dead serious.
c3534l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This explains why my doctor spent an absurd amount of time explaining to me how an inhaler worked like I was an imbecile.
Banana-balls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is really common
Johnny_Hooker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that's how I was taught to use mine by a doctor. The old ones came with a spacer tube to help you get the distance right, but I still spray mine similarly out of habit.
mafarricu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very sad. No one even bothered showing him...
singcoralfang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this scenario happened in a episode of House!
somedelightfulmoron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't get education from a physiologist or a nurse? Wow.
bing-pot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I seem to recall that Dr. House faced a similar medical mystery.
Gabinsca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Dr. House?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/bDHEEV0M62Y
akaugusto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
House M.D reference?
knmurray02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get him a spacer. My son had one until he learned to use his inhaler properly.
Gogogadgetskates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with people who are cognitively impaired. You don't know how many inhaler lessons I have given for basically this same thing. I'm going to take up calling it the binaca method!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of that episode of House, where that lady would spray the inhaler around her neck as if it were perfume. HA. That was great.
LeVin1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to get my father to use his Flovent inhaler properly, and he just could not get the coordination right. He would always get his breath wrong somehow and try to swallow the med in his mouth. He understood perfectly that the med had to go into his airways, but he just couldn't do it. Thought about getting inhaler chamber, but he didn't develop asthma and his seasonal allergy became less severe, so never occurred.
MeggIsAMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear there was a patient on "House" that did this exact same thing.
fuidiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I saw something like this on House, that show covers everything.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it was the first time you'd met him.
shhh_in_libraries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't this also an episode of House? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDHEEV0M62Y
ravia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When she used an inhaler, my mother drove me crazy. She would very carefully concentrate as she opened her mouth, would aim a puff into her mouth, then draw in a long breath through her nose, without opening her mouth at all.
netherous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I saw that episode of House too
farfarawayS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why all insurance plans should cover a home visit from a community health worker.
YJCH0I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/bDHEEV0M62Y?t=11s (@0:11)
TrepanationBy45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't pharmacies usually prompt the patients to talk with another hospital rep at the counter for guidance on their prescription? They do where I live.
Three_hrs_later ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen this several times when asking people to demonstrate how they use their inhaler, most often when they are complaining that it doesn't work: Two sprays into the air, then take a deep breath. Probably got more drug on their shirt than in their lungs.
P.S. if you or someone you know has trouble coordinating inhaler actuation with breathing in, ask the prescriber if that specific inhaler can be used with a spacer. And no, they are not just for kids!
b0v1n3r3x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw that episode of House too.
IllBePirateKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if he sprays perfume the way you would use an inhaler...
stickel03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really worrisome when people accidentally and sincerely reenact a scene from House M.D.
molly__hatchet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha this reminds me of a scene in House where a patient shows him she's been using her inhaler...by spritzing it on her neck like perfume.
soxfan0138 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the House episode where the woman uses her inhaler like perfume.
LHandrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is like that episode of House where he asks a patient if she's using her inhaler correctly.
"Of course! I'm not an idiot!" sprays sides of neck
"...you're an idiot."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like that one HOUSE M.D. episode where he asks the guy to show him how his inhaler works... The guy shows house: sprays the inhaler ON his throat.
renegade36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost right outta House: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7X4CoXIdlCA
mirandapd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bad nurse syndrome, and before anyone rips my head off, I'm a nurse, and I've been the bad one. Never on purpose, but sometimes when trying to help as many people as possible, we may assume things are understood, but the message wasn't received. My bad nurse story happened when I was in Cuba. A patient came in with his mother. Three year old with an ear infection. Reconstituted a bottle of bactrim, gave it to mom with instructions to give it to him three times a day at the marked dosage. Everything seemed fine. Smart lady. Two days later baby comes in with 104 fever. I look in his ear, PINK! Mom had been instilling the medication with the provided dropper into the affected ear. Started an IV, got antibiotics started, and spent 30 minutes cleaning dried bactrim out of that poor baby's ear. All my fault, I was a bad nurse.
Littlebrin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was working in a LTC facility, there was a hospice patient that would use their inhaler as if it was perfume. Just spraying it over his head and moving into the mist. It took me a little over a week to convince him it was meant to be INHALED. Poor fellow had been using it like that for months after being prescribed and no other CNA or LPN had told him how to properly use it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like you watch House too.
heiferly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The respiratory therapists at your hospital don't use spacers? At the hospital I frequent, we're encouraged to use spacers. I prefer it because it takes some of the guesswork out of using the inhaler. Having that auditory signal if you inhale too quickly is a big help; when you feel like you can't breathe, the desperation can make you lose sight of proper technique.
SemicolonFetish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY ;)
capntocino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wanted to be the ten thousandth person to like your post. It was very satisfying.
havingmares ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was recently (maybe 1/2 years ago) a big thing about this in the UK because a lot more people were dying from asthma than should have been considering it's mostly treatable. I actually have athsma and my symptoms were getting worse at the time, so I went to see the athsma nurse. Turns out I was taking my inhaler wrong (not to the extent mentioned in your comment), but this was because they had changed the type of inhaler and never told me how to use the new one.
Bluebillion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this also as a medical student
Ngr101 ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Working in a rural OBGYN clinic, I told a pt to try Vitamin B6 to help with her nausea and morning sickness. She called back a few weeks later and told me that Walmart did not have Vitamin B6 so she bought B12 and has just been cutting them in half
MeMyselfAnDie ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 07:59:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... I could maybe understand thinking the number is a dosage if you're unfamiliar. At least she can do basic arithmetic. Based on the other stories in this thread that's a solid milestone.
fragilelyon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:30 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I giggled. Poor lady, but at least her mistake wasn't likely to kill her.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a blonde joke. :)
ffxivfunk ยท 10064 points ยท Posted at 20:38:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That coming to the ER for a pregnancy test is a very very expensive way to do it. Apparently she didn't know you could buy one at the Rite-Aid down the block. Seriously, don't come to the ER for a pregnancy test, cause the test results won't be the only surprise you'll be getting.
Also, if you have diabetes, that you need to take your medication. No, 'getting fatter' isn't the worst that can happen. The worst that can happen is that you'll die. That's why you're in the ER with diabetic ketoacidosis and suffering organ damage. It's why you're gonna lose your toes. Take your goddamn meds.
[deleted] ยท 4302 points ยท Posted at 21:52:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This hits hard for me. I had an uncle who I was very close to who was very sick the entire time I knew him. I know he had very, very severe diabetes but I don't remember what else he suffered from.
I have these distinct memories of him taking me to McDonald's so we could throw the fries to the seagulls that hung out in the parking lot and he'd always have the heat on full blast because the circulation to his extremities was so poor.
By the time he died, he lost both of his legs and 4 of his fingers. Irony was he loved basketball so much. He used to chase me around with his leg "nubs" and race me down the street in his electric wheelchair. He was really amazing, he never let me be afraid of his amputations or his condition. I even used to give him insulin shots even though needles scare the shit out of me as an adult. He was a remarkable human being. I miss him and I wish he could've known me as a real developed person. Unfortunately I was 6 when he died. I hope he'd be proud.
EDIT: Fuck guys, you're all so nice. Thanks to all of you who reached out and said nice shit to me, it made my night. I'm in a place in my life where I could really use the positivity, so I really appreciate it.
Another Edit: Because thank you for the gold.
Burn-Account ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 03:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked for a while at a fast food place that did delivery. We had a customer who would order every. Single. Night. Lived in a nice condo towards the edge of our delivery zone. When I started he had both legs, but clearly they were not in great shape. Within two months, his left leg was amputated. By the time I was fired (~ 2 months later) he had lost both.
He had an adult daughter who would occasionally call in begging us to not take his order, that he was diabetic and refused treatment and that we were a crutch to this serious issues. But he always paid, tipped well, so everyone just ignored her. His order was 3 of one of our most unhealthy options and four chocolate chip cookies.
The only time I took her call was the night before I was fired. I was the 'supervisor on duty' and so I got the call. And when he calls in to order I politely tell him that we would not be taking his order. His daughter had some form of power of attorney, and we were told not to accept his orders anymore. I apologize and tell him to have a good day.
Granted, I overstepped my authority, but I was tired of feeding what was clearly an addiction and didn't want any part of it, good tip or no. The next morning he called in to complain, and I was (as expected) fired. I don't count that as a bad thing.
seniorlopez ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 07:37:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck overstepping your authority, you did the right thing.
Burn-Account ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agree, don't regret it at all, the place was run poorly as well so I was happy to leave it.
Atario ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:57:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have a boss who had previously started and built up a successful beer brewery. But then one day he realized his best customers were raging alcoholics. He sold it and never looked back.
WhineyThePooh ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 00:59:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So sorry, thats really hard. I had an unwell diabetic uncle as well who passed recently and I'm a diabetic myself. Its a nasty disorder, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. It sounds like you brought your uncle a lot of joy, though. I hope you find comfort in those memories.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not sure about type 1 but aren't type 2 very easy to reverse? i've heard of fasting clinics that have 100% success rate on reversing diabetes just after a month.
edit: take a look at this video
WhineyThePooh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no cure for type 1 or type 2 diabetes. If you are a type 1 diabetic, you have to take insulin for the rest of your life- there is no amount of fasting or dietary changes that will make your pancreas create enough insulin again. For type 2, some are able to control it with changes in diet, but most have to take at least a pill to make their bodies more sensitive to the insulin their pancreas is creating while others have to inject insulin, like type 1s. There is no 'reversing' type 2, but some are able to minimize their medication intake. And I would not call it easy- I imagine it takes a herculean effort to restrict your diet to the point where no medication is necessary. Think VERY low carb- no sweets, no bread, no pasta, etc. and VERY routine. I do not know enough about these fasting clinics to make a very informed claim about them- but if a rep told me their clinic 'reversed' type 2 diabetes with only fasting after a month, I'd tell them they were full of shit.
Isoldael ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:50:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It highly depends on the case. If type 2 were so easy to reverse, it wouldn't be one of the biggest health issues in the western world today.
GmbHLaw ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something tells me I think he would be ;)
Glad you got to know him and carry his memory with you. For as young as you were, sounds like he made a good impression.
LnGrrrR ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, my son is 7. I hope I'm creating some awesome memories for him that are as good as your memories of your uncle. Good story man.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of you, thank you.
Viking-Warlord ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I pulled off my great uncles leg and hit him with it. He wasn't proud.
kourtneykaye ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:05:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm proud of you if that counts for anything.
_LuckyDucky_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:19:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did he expect of a Viking Warlord?
gingythechef ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:59:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My papa had severe diabetes. He had lost most of his toes and fingers and then both his legs to his knees. He was on dialysis 3 days a week for years. He was one of the most amazing people I knew. We lost him when I was 14. He never complained a day in his life. I miss him everyday. It is an awful disease to watch someone go through. Sorry for your loss.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:07:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He sounds like he was a strong and special person. I'm sorry for your loss as well. Thank you for your kind words
theonlyepi ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:25:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just read through your post history for a minute and I'm sure he'd be proud. Good on ya for taking that day off for your family. Life has it's ups and downs, material things seem to matter but we know they don't. it's your family that you were born into, and will have until death. but you've known that, even at 6.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:30:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats very kind of you to say, thank you. I like to think I did the right thing.
batshitcrazy5150 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:21:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So at 5 or 6 you were giving him insulin shots???
unholymackerel ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:48:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just into an orange
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:18:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2meta2fast
Raknith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me cringe
AnonNurse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:37:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your love for him has definitely made him proud!
Catmom2004 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:30:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are a wonderful person to have loved your uncle so much. You are also a very good writer. (And I can relate to needing some positives. Take care, internet stranger.)
mcstranglehands ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:12:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why I'm so cold all the time?
ShadowAviation ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. You are amazing.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey. So are you!
YimYam1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:04 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
christ my man, you got soul. You seem to have a way with words too, a very pleasant read indeed! x
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed it! If my memories bring joy to one person, that means a lot to me. I'm a writer by trade, so I guess that makes sense, but thank you for the compliment.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad died from a stroke when I was 6. He had type 1 diabetes. He was diagnosed later in life, he wasn't born with it. My mom said he never took care of himself. By the time he died he'd had both legs amputated below the knee. When I was 15, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.
shoryukenist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know how happy it must have made him to play with you? You made his life so much better than it would have been without you.
Andy0132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Condolences about your uncle, he seemed like a pretty interesting bloke.
cooldug000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diabetes and related conditions have taken away my favorite family members, too. I wish they could have been around to see me and the family I have now.
What I've decided to do is to try hard to be like those guys, but without the diabetes, so the young people of my family can have me for a long time.
runandkickgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You gave your uncle insulin shots when you were only 5 or 6 years old? Seriously?
winndixie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you already know that he would be proud of the good person youd become.
largestPrimeNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a champ uncle :)
doesthismakemeclever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That made me tear up. I'm glad you got to know him. He'd be proud of you.
_LuckyDucky_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish my uncles were that awesome. Well, one was but he died too. You have happy memories of him, which is nice.
dothebananasplits96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
im not crying im not i just got some dust in my eye ..... yeah just some dust sniff
samvazbiz24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle recently passed away due to the severe diabetes he had. He struggled A LOT with dialysis, he would have it done I believe every third day, so he would constantly be in and out of the hospital. I wasn't particularly close with him, but he would visit my dad often and they would watch soccer games every Sunday together. (I still miss having his company.) Even though we weren't close, his passing was extremely difficult on me because my dad is also a diabetic. Every single thing I saw with my uncle, I know is what Im going to expect with my dad, it's what my cousins have been advising me for. All they did during the time before my uncle passed was remind me to take care of my dad, and appreciate him, because I really won't know what diabetes can do to him, and it really breaks my heart to think I've now had a glimpse to what will happen.
BUT Be happy that you guys created memories together, it's the best thing in the world to cherish :) It's something that I know I will do!
Diannika ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just so you know, thats probably WHY you are scared of needles. Not saying anything against it. even if it did cause later fear of needles, it obviously helped you a lot as a child, and that is the important part, as well as him caring enough to try to help you understand and deal with it.
But i KNOW that my families history of insulin dependent Diabetes coupled with learning how to and giving my mother her shots as a child is 100% the reason i am completely terrified of needles. (tho later incidents after i already had the phobia are why it is so much worse now then it was 10 years ago)
its just something ive noticed, and thought i would point it out.
Your Uncle sounds like a wonderful man <3
Luvagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why the 'why should I pay for dumb fat people who are leading bad lifestyles' attitude when it comes to the healthcare debate is so horrid to me.
Because they're fucking people that's why, they have more to offer the world than their shitty uneducated health decisions.
Lets_Draw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Losing a loved one is hard. And its not something that is easy to live with. You and your uncle were lucky to have each other while it lasted.
Here are some internet hugs if you want them. BIG BEAR HUG! (I'm 5'3" so we'll see how that goes.)
I_Let_it_Slide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Came here for the giggles, left with the feels.
I'm sure he'd be proud bud.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm proud of you!
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your uncle sounds like he was an awesome person. :)
bgregory902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throw french fries at seagulls? Are you from Dartmouth??
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:20:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, Ohio :p
ericisaac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. I used to do this too and I'm also from Ohio. Only it was Burger King as that was right off the lake. PC?
kourtneykaye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think (almost) everyone has throw fries at seagulls at one point or another in their lives.
My dad used to like to put hot sauce on the fries then throw them. I always felt so bad for them but at the same time it was pretty funny. Don't worry, I'd feed them normal fries afterwards.
Molly_Monroe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know he is proud of you! :) He sounds like such an amazing uncle. The world needs more of him.
thevitalone ยท 3286 points ยท Posted at 20:49:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, I used to work with a girl who had a faint positive on a home pregnancy test. She came into work very excited about it one day. She's in her early twenties, known her boyfriend for less than six months, and they are trying to get pregnant. Needless to say, my other co-workers and I were a little perplexed. She was so excited that if she couldn't get an appointment with her gyno the next day she said she was just going to go to the ER. What a waste of her money and, more importantly, the ER doctors' time and resources.
gdxn5301 ยท 2066 points ยท Posted at 21:40:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And she's in for a disappointing ER visit. The ER is for ruling out or treating life-threatening conditions. The ER isn't a magical place where you expedite whatever medical treatment you want.
PRMan99 ยท 1398 points ยท Posted at 22:22:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is if you have no medical insurance in the USA.
therunawayguy ยท 845 points ยท Posted at 22:29:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is depressingly true. It's been more than a few times where my mother has gone to the ER simply because there is NO OTHER WAY for her to get treated. They can't legally turn her down, so it's the only option she has when things go wrong.
articleofpeace ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 22:44:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is one of the many sad reasons why US healthcare costs the US taxpayer twice as much as nationalised UK healthcare, while being less effective. It's absolutely crucial for both cost and effectiveness in healthcare systems to send people to the right place.
96firephoenix ยท 320 points ยท Posted at 23:38:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I've never grasped as an American. Like people happily buy insurance that costs 20% of their income (if i max out my policy usage, it would be about 25% of my salary) because it's the free market, but if there was a 10% income tax to pay for better and free healthcare, they flip a dick and a half because it's socialism.
FearMeIAmRoot ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:05:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I make $78,000/yr. my insurance premiums are $17,520, $13,200 of which are paid by my employer.
I pay $17,520 for my insurance to pay 40% of my medical bills, at participating locations, many restrictions apply, please read the rest of the fine print for no details.
[deleted] ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 23:43:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? No they don't. What on earth makes you think people are happy about that?
Omniseed ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 01:46:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many Americans are clearly happier to pay 20% for 'their' insurance than they are to have the same healthcare as those people.
I don't think anyone who has ever lived in America could deny that this emotionally reactive, bitterly oppositional, completely self-destructive dynamic does exist and does play a major role in American public policy making.
FearMeIAmRoot ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 05:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No American is happy paying this. And the reason Obamacare is failing is because they refused to require insurers and health care providers to level the playing field, which would have seen decreased profit margins. Fat cats pushed for less competition, state level tie-ins, regional monopolies (similar to our ISP situation), etc.
greyghostvol1 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 00:37:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the commenter was implying contempt from the people, not literal happiness about it.
96firephoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. That was in comparison with the notion of single payer. Not like oh boy, take my money!
Circus_McGee ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 23:48:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm pretty sure eveyone is prettt pissed about how much health insurance costs and what a convoluted bureaucratic cluster fuck the whole industry has become. Except Congress apparently.
[deleted] ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 00:34:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Circus_McGee ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, they are certainly sitting pretty, but they should be pissed on behalf of their constituents. Every person who loses health jnsurance this year should be calling their local congressmen EVERY FUCKING DAY and telling how much their families have been hurt by the increased financial burden. To be fair though, the maybe the GOP has a plan that they've been playing reeeeeeaaallllyyy close to their chest that will help everyone get health care that prevents medical procedures from being financially driven decisions.
cder317 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:51:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's 100% subsidized by taxpayer dollars if you count the fact that they're paid with taxpayer dollars but they don't get any employer contribution, like any other person who gets insurance through their job. The ACA mandated that they have to buy their insurance through the exchange and they are ineligible for the individual subsidy.
cousinlazlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's fucked up
AziMeeshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if they did, health insurance would make up a much much smaller fraction of their income than the average family. It's not like taxes, where the more you make the more you pay in proportion to your income.
articleofpeace ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 00:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The commenter was drawing an implicit comparison with paying taxes. I.e., it's not that people are happy with paying 20% of their income, it's that they're less unhappy than they would be at the prospect of paying a 10% income tax. Of course, direct taxation wouldn't solve the problem. The entire American healthcare system needs rebuilding from the ground up. The American system doesn't just cost vastly more overall than any other nation on earth, but it is actually already mostly taxpayer funded - in fact, per capita, Americans already pay (a lot) more tax towards healthcare than any other country. What you guys need is properly organised nationalised healthcare.
Edit: typos.
cousinlazlo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:05:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I went to Denmark on vacation and got super sick, ended up going to the doctor and they were really concerned it was going to cost me a ton because I didn't have Danish insurance. It cost $40 including the medication. Which is basically less than my copay would be for those.
nomnomsekki ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But even that isn't true. They aren't convinced that those two systems would be the same thing - in their mind, one involves rationing and death panels and long waits and infinite beauracracy, and the other doesn't.
articleofpeace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I don't understand your comment. It's late and I'm tired... Would you mind explaining what you mean in more detail?
nomnomsekki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that they would rather pay 20% than 10% for the same health care system - that would indeed be stupid. Rather, they think that the system in which those who can afford it pay 20% is a very different, and superior system (no rationing, no death panels, etc.) from the one in which everyone gets it for 10% (rationing, death panels, etc.) Of course, the numbers need to be tweaked, but the basic worry is the same.
articleofpeace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I see what you mean. Thanks.
I'm not sure it's that worked out. On one level, the idea you describe is objectively untrue, in that countries with nationalised healthcare need far less money (in taxation) to pay for services that are, in reality, better than in the USA. (There are lots of reasons for this.) But we're not talking about reality, we're talking about the way people think. And you're right that a lot of people would probably think this. But I don't think it's so worked out. I think there's just an aversion to socialised healthcare of any kind as 'bad', just as there's a learned aversion to direct taxation as 'bad'. I'm not sure it's very consciously developed as an idea, partly because that seems to unlikely to be a commonly held belief as it's trivial to falsify in the information age.
Tullyswimmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't make a huge amount of money (just above middle class, but not by much) and I only pay... 7% of my income for healthcare. And I have an extremely expensive plan, the sticker price of which before my employer contribution would barely be 20% of my income.
stationhollow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might not be happy with it but with ACA you uave no choice about it and many still see government healthcare as an evil.
96firephoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant in comparison to the notion of socialized medicine.
Even before Obamacare, Insurance was still more expensive than most countries' single payer systems.
wardrich ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's hilarious how much some Americans hate socialism... Because clearly capitalism has gotten them far...
DriftingSkies ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 00:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a quote to the effect of:
"Socialism never took hold in America because the poor view themselves as temporarily-embarrassed millionaires, not an exploited proletariat."
OKImHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That, and the comparative lack of poverty.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:32:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, I'm not the most nationalistic American, but... it kind of did
SgtDoughnut ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:13:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It actually got us quite far but it was a restrained capitalism. Government stepping in and stopping unfair practices. Unions fighting for workers rights. Now we have nearly unfettered capitalism and we are going down the tubes fast because for some reason we think the idea of profit over all is a good one.
articleofpeace ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:56:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No you don't. You have statist capitalism, that is actually overregulated. It's over-regulated against the consumer, to prop up and support corporations. It's not a lack of regulation that's the problem, it's that the corporations have created a state that specifically regulates on their behalf.
We actually have some similar issues here in the UK. The problem with our trains, for instance, is not that they're 'privatised'. I mean, as a socialist I'm sort of obliged to say that privatisation is bad, mmkay, but that's really not the problem. The problem is that we have state-sanctioned monopolies. We have companies that own a market, and have no competitors, while being allowed to charge both the government and the customer as much as they want and effectively deliver whatever level of service that they like. So as I said the problem isn't privatisation per se, it's state sanctioned anti-competitive measures.
sanemaniac ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really, this has always been the case. The National Guard in the US used to come in and break strikes when private security firms couldn't do it themselves. Corporations have always bought elections and had their interests represented by the state. The state has existed in America to protect property rights first and foremost.
If there is such a thing as "genuine" free capitalism though, it would be an anarchistic society that is vastly worse for the average working person than today's statist capitalism with a corrupt representative democracy. Again, even in American history, there were company towns that would pay their employees in company scrip that could only be spent at company stores, and whose wages would be deducted for living in company housing and using company equipment. That's equivalent to slavery, or even worse because at least if you are a slave, there is some incentive to protect the investment and keep you alive. I think the kind of anarchistic capitalism people represent as an ideal would just self-organize into what are, in effect, small totalitarian states.
articleofpeace ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Again, as a socialist, I tend to agree. But I find that we can all - socialists and capitalists (or whatever people like to call themselves) - agree on the fact that the current status quo is wrong. And it's wrong because the state currently favours the corporations. We can all agree that the first step is to get rid of that. It's useful to have agreement across different ideologies and parties, even if it only stretches so far.
sanemaniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That might be the first step, the tricky part is the second step. It's difficult to unite two polar opposite ideologies simply because they share the belief that the current system is deeply flawed. I might share that opinion with genuine fascists or neo-nazis but it doesn't mean I want to march shoulder to shoulder with them.
articleofpeace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. On the other hand, in my (obviously limited) experience, the main political differences between the philosophically minded Right and the Left is that right-leaning people believe left-wing politics is neat but completely unrealistic. A united front based on agreed policies - and I believe you probably could sell the American people socialised healthcare (and probably a few select other things) under any different name - might swing a lot of people over. And even if that isn't the case I'm inclined to say that getting half way there is still better than the situation right now.
sanemaniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's an overly optimistic view of the actual differences of opinion. People are viciously and vociferously anti-socialist... it's not that people simply think the ideas are "neat" but can't be implemented. It's relatively common that people equate social spending with communist China and the USSR. Under no circumstance would I want to be in a united front with people who want to dismantle social services simply because we happen to share the opinion that the status quo is flawed (again, for vastly different reasons).
articleofpeace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's why I said 'philosophically minded', but yeah, you're right, it's optimistic. I like to think that, in spite of recent events, most people are essentially able to be reasoned with, if you take the time, patience, and understanding. Optimistic, but I'm OK with being optimistic.
AziMeeshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're from the UK, you guys have a labour party for fuck sake, even a lot of your right wingers aren't totally against things like the NHS, over here even some people on the "left" don't think a national healthcare system would work, good luck convincing anyone on the right, they literally think it would be the beginning of an authoritarian nationalization of all industry. The right acts like the bolsheviks are storming the gates and the Democratic Party is trying to turn the country into a communist hell-hole, and the left is sitting there thinking, where are all these socialists the right keeps yelling about? Fuck it, the Democrats keep getting accused of being socialists, maybe we should actually elect some socialists and see what the right thinks then.
articleofpeace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm, I understand, but in these troubling times I choose to remain blindly optimistic :-)
thisvideoiswrong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of markets are pretty darn anti-competitive all by themselves, though. And a lot of the regulations, usually the ones Republicans most want to get rid of, are actually in place to protect customers and workers. The top of the hit list are always the environmental laws, you don't have to look around for long to see how badly we need those. Next up, protections for labor unions, then the minimum wage. They also work quietly to erode food safety, for a recent example, regulations on chicken slaughtering were changed to allow a higher line speed and let companies hire private inspectors rather than the government ones, if anything that's actually an anti-competitive change, and will lead to even worse safety and humanitarian issues than already exist.
articleofpeace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:01:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't tell anyone, but as a socialist I believe that Capitalism naturally leads to a system dominated by these sort of degraded state-sanctioned fuedelistic monopolies. ;-)
You're right about the natural differences in markets. Some markets are just much more prone to them. Utilities, like energy or water, for instance, in which there's only one set of cables, or public transport, like trains, or even healthcare, are just more prone to these sorts of issues because they really only have limited room for multiple entities. That's one of the key reasons why socialist states nationalise healthcare, postage, railways, utilities, and so on. IMO, this seems fairly obvious, and like something about which everyone should agree - that areas in which an open and competitive market is an impossibility should be nationalised - but alas, it's not to be.
You're also right about entities trying to get rid of worker's rights. You have to understand, though, that most developed countries view the USA as in a deficit of worker's rights. While a lot of Americans seem to have the attitude that 0* C in terms of rights is literally 0 regulation on their behalf, most developed countries don't share that view. Most people from these places see the basic 0*C of worker's rights as a decent minimum wage, mandatory sick pay and maternity pay, protections from being unfairly dismissed, etc. So, you see, by this view the USA is actually in the negatives for worker's rights. The fact that these big corporations haven't managed to wipe out literally every scrap of protection is the difference between terrible and absolutely abominable, not the difference between slightly positive and neutral. Do you see what I mean? I'm not quite sure where I'm going with that but I'm positive that when I started this comment I believed it was relevant...
thisvideoiswrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's kind of an inescapable conclusion, isn't it? I mean, the theory just plain doesn't work in the real world, so it would be very surprising if we got the same results. You need a barrier to entry of $0 and perfect information for capitalism to work properly, so with barriers in the millions or billions (plus market recognition) and humans only being able to learn so much we pretty much have to get immoral oligopolies, which then collude against the general population. The only alternative is to designate and pay people as watchdogs with the power to punish misdeeds, which is to say, have strong regulatory agencies, or else abandon the system entirely.
I'm not quite sure where you were going with the rest of it, but maybe I didn't make my point clearly enough. That was that discussing over-regulation (at least in my experience) usually comes with a set of assumptions and desires that are at odds with the goal of, to quote our Constitution, promoting the general welfare. It's never patents or, in some areas, the laws explicitly enforcing a cable monopoly that end up on the chopping block. So, heck, maybe I was off topic and just going off on my associations with the term. And yes, I am aware that the US is depressingly backward. I voted Sanders, and then Stein after checking that Clinton would be in the double digits in my state (Electoral College nonsense), but it doesn't seem to have mattered much.
articleofpeace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm, I agree with all of that. (Who knows where I was going with the end of that comment.) One of the reasons I framed my comment as I did - by accepting the problem was overregulation - is precisely because the right traditionally do the same. It seems to me that the way to combat that narrative - which in the hands of the right would result in the demolition of welfare, worker's rights, and so on - is to embrace and subvert that narrative. So the problem is overregulation, but only overregulation of the opposite type to the type the right is always arguing against.
ludsmile ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very educational โ thanks!
hydradarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brilliantly explained. Thank you
wardrich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good point. I guess the issue is that the capitalism that I've witnessed first hand has been an absolute shitshow to make as much money as you can regardless of the damage and bullshit.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Our country keeps getting more and more socialist. 100+ or so years ago is when we had laissez-faire capitalism.
thisvideoiswrong ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Laissez-faire capitalism doesn't normally involve government sanctioned mass murder, effective slavery, or massive monopolies. Our strongest socialist policies were established in the '30s and '70s, and most have eroded since then.
PooptyPewptyPaints ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a joke? Are you trying to imply that the USA is not a dominant global force in nearly every industry, and has been for nearly a century?
wardrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, it's gotten corporations places but nobody else really stands a chance
PooptyPewptyPaints ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must be why our standard of living is so high
letsgoiowa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:37:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who the hell do you think makes up those magical corporations? They aren't secret fantasy kingdoms.
WE ARE THE BUSINESSES
letsgoiowa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you miss the entire 20th century? Have you never read a book or taken a history course?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PooptyPewptyPaints ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quiet you. This is the 'bash America no matter how objectively wrong you are' portion of the thread.
wardrich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not American, but I understand what they are and what they do. The thing is, it seems like a whole lot of people think that Socialism is a bad thing. I think anything to get away from the corporate steamroller that's currently happening is a good idea.
jihiggs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
every one who is from a country that not only put 1 man on the moon, but put 12 men on the moon, raise your hand.
<raises hand>
wyldphyre ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:55:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think a single payer system would probably be a good thing for me and everyone I know.
But among the thought processes of those who consider government influence over healthcare bad is a fear of corruption. You could imagine a government so corrupt that only the powerful would have access to quality healthcare. But under the current system, if you work hard and earn a lot of money you have the option to spend it on healthcare. (Yes, I realize that under the current system, the wealthy has access to more and better care than the rest of us.)
Also, the government now has significantly more incentive to pass laws to inhibit vices that have health impact. If resources become so scarce they could do perverse things like, e.g. a total prohibition on sugar consumption.
Keep in mind that I'm supportive but trying to consider some potential bad outcomes.
OKImHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HMOs are single payer. Switch to Kaiser Permanente, for instance. You'll have what you've been asking for.
A_Gigantic_Potato ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:43:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more of a lot of people here are poor and will shit themselves at the thought of a raise in taxes.
CatpainTpyos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think it's necessarily just the poor. It seems to be pretty much everybody across the board. In the city where I used to live, they did a public opinion poll to see if people wanted a new water park. The results were overwhelmingly in favor of building the park.
But then reality set in, and the next poll question asked if people would support a 0.1% increase in sales tax to pay for said water park. You could practically hear the collective "HELL NO!" on that one.
A_Gigantic_Potato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same in my hometown. Everyone in Michigan hates the roads. They're fucking horrible, possibly worst in the country. Then the state came forward and gave us great news, a 1% increase in sales tax would be more than enough to fund road and bridge repairs and replacements. Great right! Except nobody wants to shell out the extra buck or two it would cost them. So now they're all just complaining about the roads again, even after they had an opertunity to fix the issue.
Renovatio_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its not.
Its a captive market.
96firephoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware. Should have used quotes on that to connote that they think it is the free market vs. socialism.
PooptyPewptyPaints ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:45:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the fuck is this upvoted? Redditors are so goddamn stupid.
livingwithghosts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:06:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's true. How much do you pay from your income for insurance? I have very very inexpensive insurance right now and it's still about 10% of my pre-tax income. My last positions it was about 20%. And I have almost always had good coverage for low premiums.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mine is about 4%. before obama care my insurance cost the same and covered everything. now its shit, i pay out of pocket up to 4 grand a year. so basically, unless i need surgery or get hit by a truck, i have no insurance. and if i do, they only cover 80% up to some ungodly number i cant remember.
livingwithghosts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's completely on your company and the insurance company, not Obamacare. I can't remember which one but even one of the big insurance companies told off another one publicly that they were essentially screwing people/bad business practices. It was an excuse.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea sure, Obama care had nothing to do with it, uh huh
livingwithghosts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It did have something to do with it, it gave greedy organizations an excuse to overcharge.
MangyWendigo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
all of our capitalist economic peers spend 2x-5x less than us for equal or higher quality healthcare. because they have universal care. its the only way to get price discipline
PooptyPewptyPaints ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:48:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think that is literally the only reason, then you're part of the problem. Everyone who pushes for universal care seems to think it's this ridiculously simple situation where A+B=C, and there are no other confounding factors.
If it was that simple, we would have done it by now. But one side trying to make the other side look bad or sound stupid by boiling it down to 'IT'S SO SIMPLE, DUH' is not helping.
And yet, plenty of other industries have accomplished this without being 100% controlled and operated by the government, so I'm not sure why you think it's the 'only' way.
MangyWendigo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:11:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its a natural monopoly. there is no other way to get price discipline
add it is that simple. there is no other side. just idiots resisting in prideful ignorance
go ahead and articulate to me a better plan
go ahead. prove yourself
the GOP leadership can't. neither can you
wellexcusemiprincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey hey now. At least we have some freedom amirite
pochemy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because for a lot of wealthy people, insurance isn't 20% of their income or even 10%. They would be paying much more for health insurance to subsidize other people's and obviously, health insurance companies would go out of business. Both those groups will spend huge amount of money to elect people who won't implement free healthcare.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats debatable
abrasiveteapot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it makes you feel better, the rest of the world share your befuddlement.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:02:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just instituted the ACA (Obamacare) and my premiums increased and my coverage decreased over what it was. Tell me again how government controlled healthcare worked in the states.
DragoonDM ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:05:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the issues with the ACA are thanks to compromises that the GOP demanded. Government controlled healthcare works in plenty of countries, we just happen to live in one where one of our two controlling parties is determined to make sure that the government doesn't work.
WhoahNows ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:13:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that, but some the proposed fixes were part of the original plan.
thielemodululz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors and nurses make about 3x what they do in the EU and UK, also. Insurance only pays what bills the doctors send them. It's a big cartel against the public.
afkas17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors also pay almost 400K more in education costs than they do in the UK. Nurses are quite that bad but it's still a hell of a lot more. Also doctors payments only make up 10% of the total cost of healthcare as it is, try again.
AziMeeshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the average salary for nurses was 20k a year in the US, guess what? The shortage of nurses we have now would look like nothing in comparison. Who the fuck would get a bachelors degree to make less money than you would working at wal-mart?
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:32:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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greyghostvol1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and yet, it very much does in plenty of other developed nations.
ViKomprenas ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[citation needed]
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ViKomprenas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Republican president, Democratic house, nothing gets done.
Democratic president, Republican house, nothing gets done.
Therefore, government cannot ever do anything.
Also, apparently the Senate doesn't exist?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ViKomprenas ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:51:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're pretty dense, eh? I was pointing out flaws in your comment, not stating what I believe to be the case.
DragoonDM ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the GOP is quite proud of that. They've made it their job to obstruct Obama as much as possible for the last 8 years. They're the reason we only have 8 Supreme Court justices right now even though Obama nominated an extremely non-partisan judge nearly a year ago.
articleofpeace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, then explain how here in the UK we have (or at least, we had) nationalised healthcare that offers much more effective care and costs both the country and the taxpayer vastly less than in the USA?
1madeamistake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Much smaller country.
articleofpeace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These things are always worked out absolutely and per capita, friend. In the USA you pay vastly more overall per capita, and you pay more tax for it, per capita.
Dont____Panic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:46:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, I moved to Canada and the cost of health care to me went WAY down.
Tell me again? Works pretty well from here. :-)
Lmaoyougotrekt ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because people like you are fighting tooth and nail to get rid of it! Jesus Christ.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guarantee that if my coverage went up and my premiums went down I wouldn't "fight tooth and nail" to get rid of anything.
Sorry buddy but I deal with silly things called facts. Fact is, the ACA is, was, and always will be a collossal failure.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:21:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It saved my life so fuck you. It's not perfect but it's better than what I had before which was either piss poor coverage with a high deductible depending on employer or absolutely nothing. It's not perfect but it can be helped. And it's better than what was before.
OKImHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hold the hostility kid. Oh my bad, I mean "FatJesusMoney666". I didn't realize that I should be happy that food was taken off of my families table, because it was being sent to yours.
Cool that it works for you. But it doesn't work for me, so it clearly, unequivocally not the answer.
Unless of course you're a generic liberal, where you only care if it helps other liberals. If it hurts republicans then fuck them right?
not_a_moogle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone would be on one plan that the government organizes. To you, it would work the same as your insurance does now, we just all would have the same card. Which hopefully also means that you can see any doctor you want, because they only have one option on which insurance they take.
Which is why the ACA was doomed to fail. The whole point of any insurance is that the people paying into the premiums that don't need it will offset the cost of those that do. Which is why house insurance and car insurance don't really raise much every year. It's basically just adjusted for shop work costs raising.
But on a state level where there's a couple options, there's not enough healthy people paying into it to cover the costs of the sick (not to mention that a lot of healthy and employed people have private insurance through work, so double worse for the public options on how many healthy people are paying into it)
You're seeing a higher premium and lower coverage because your provider has to do that to stay in business. Hence why a government backed system would worked better, since they won't go out of business.. or really worry about profits (hopefully)
I'm happy for the ACA, but it was only a stepping stone to push the discussion. Meanwhile a lot of other 1st world countries have switched over and shown it can be done. We just need to get government officials in power to be willing to upend the free market for the good of nation.
(I imagine a lot of people were unhappy about social security when it was first introduced, but a lot of the elderly generation now can't live without it)
VerneAsimov ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hardly government controlled healthcare. That's government mandated healthcare with some regulations or something on private corporations. People are still paying taxes+premiums instead of just increased taxes. The increase in taxes will likely be less than what most people pay for taxes.
Obamacare is a step in the right direction but so poorly executed that it's a step back. I especially like that I'm forced to sign up for Medicaid to avoid paying the fee. I can't afford insurance or the fee, so let me just leech off the government instead. Brilliant.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:36:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, as long as you're not committing Medicaid fraud, it is cheaper to charge you taxes and enroll you in Medicaid because the government can bargain the costs down the larger the program.
The ones who are fucked are states that did not extend their Medicaid because now you have poor people who can't afford the fee, the plan and make too much money for Medicaid.
VerneAsimov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I know that. I mean it's hypocritical to invent a system where you scorn dependence on the government for healthcare then increase the chance that the lower classes will have to depend on the government for healthcare. And in some states, government healthcare sucks. Doesn't bother me on bit but seems kinda ridiculous.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Republican Plan: Privatize instead of Socialize.
Democrat Plan: Socialize instead of Privatize.
The Two Party System in Two Sentences.
The biggest thing is that this whole thing, the whole ACA thing is RomneyCare(a Republican plan in the first place) without the public option (IE, you can't buy into Medicaid), so they (Reps) fought hard to remove the option that the poor people now fall into by default and followed it up by not incrementing Medicaid spending in their state to accomodate. I like both sides but sabotage just to make Democrats look bad is pretty fucky when you're playing with other people's lifes.
VerneAsimov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's a fair point. I personally find socializing better. Each have their pros/cons, though.
The Republicans have been sabotaging government on purpose, especially since that black african muslim guy took office, on all levels and it's fucking everything up for poor people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's flip sides to each. Think education, if you socialize, every students get the same chance, but what happens if you have a child who isn't learning at the same rate or one that is exceeding the learning expectation; in a "privatized" model, you focus on those who do best/have more cash and train up a powerful workforce while leaving the ones who are less intelligent behind but you can always say "Our top students are smarter than the top students from a socialized educational system" while forgetting about the less intelligent children/less well-off children.
Think about private versus public schools and realize that's what happens when you have dough to send your kids to private schools. Those kids are less likely to do hard drugs, less likely to be involved in crime, less likely to be a teenage pregnancy statistic and more likely to excel in the workplace.
zaphas86 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, no we don't. I'm goddamn thrilled that I only pay about $20 every paycheck for shitty insurance that I never use, and I only have it for emergency's sake. I would ditch it if I didn't have to pay the goddamn Obamacare fine.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:17:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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articleofpeace ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:05:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a very complex problem and my comment was very short - I agree that those are some of the problems. As I said in other comments, even direct taxation instead of insurance etc wouldn't solve the problem. The entire system needs rebuilding from the ground up on a nationalised basis. The ACA is not nationalisation by any stretch of the imagination.
Stephen1985 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me UK patients absolutely abuse the shit out of the service.
stationhollow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that leads to the infamous DEATH PANELS TM
psychicsword ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say that like it doesn't happen.
They may not be death panels individually putting people to death but a lot of socialized health care countries do restrict treatment that they deem as not being worthwhile due to budget costs.
eugenesbluegenes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, um, socialism is bad!
birddogin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is most without insurance call 911 for headaches, cramps, feeling sick, etc. and hop on a ambulance free of charge - only costing the tax payers an additional $2,000 for their taxi.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:44:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where'd you hear that?
Dont____Panic ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:47:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Healthcare in the US literally costs almost double, per capita, as most other developed nations for roughly similar outcomes.
Haven't you ever heard that?
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:26:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, but not all from taxes.
Dont____Panic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, the tax burden part is at least close to what it is in countries with universal coverage.
But that's not on top of everything else.
WhoahNows ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.PCAP Edit: fixed the link
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"does not exist or is no longer available."
WhoahNows ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All fixed, I somehow lost the P at the end
articleofpeace ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's well-known. You can look at any comparative study of the two, e.g. this. The US healthcare system is the most expensive in the world.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, when you said "taxpayer" I thought you meant tax funds. You can see how I would draw that conclusion.
Dont____Panic ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:48:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The average US taxpayer literally pays about as much for health care via taxes as a Canadian.
But then they ALSO have to get insurance.
Then they ALSO have to pay for treatment and "co-pay" themselves.
Pretty slick...
wimpymist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason people that are against it can never grasp this concept. They just look at the word taxes and freak out. I argued with a guy for hours about how it would be cheaper for the government to provide free birth control pills to girls than pay for all the unwanted pregnancies and childhoods of said babies. All he would say is how he didn't wanna pay for people to have sex
wimpymist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We pay more on both sides. Our government spend more tax money per capita compared to every other country and each taxpayer pays more than every other country
articleofpeace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, not entirely - my comment was broad. But about 65% of healthcare costs are tax-funded in the US, which is indeed more than any other country. It's just hidden taxes.
KayakerMel ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:06:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I had to waste a visit to the ER because I had recently moved and couldn't get an appointment with my new PCP until long after I ran out of my prescription medications. As I need them to function, I went to the ER after the urgent care I tried first a) wouldn't prescribe most of them and b) they actually wouldn't take my insurance and I didn't want to be out a hundred bucks for only half of the meds that they would prescribe. I was very apologetic.
deanna0975 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:40:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Canada the pharmacy would Fax a refill request to your doctor and then once they got an OK back from the dr they would fill them. They even have back up doctors who will prescribe meds to patients that they have never seen if the pharmacist says its a regular med. At the very least giving you enough to last until your scheduled appointment. Unless you are on fentanyl patches or similar. This is to cut down on unnecessary ER visits. However I once waited behind an old lady who wanted a sandwich.
kikellea ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:04:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's usually how my (USA) pharmacy does it, too, but there's several reasons they might not. Moving out of state, it being an awkward refill time, it being a high scheduled drug, and so on. Most of the time if you have a high rapport it's no big deal, they'll get you through, but sometimes it's no dice.
C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had an issue doing that except for controls. The only time I've ever seen it happen was when a lady was trying to get her son's klonopin refilled from a doctor halfway across the country over the phone when we had never filled anything for him.
MimzytheBun ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:02:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had forgotten my multiple medications while visiting family across the province, and was able to get a week's worth from a local pharmacy. They called my pharmacy to check what my active medications were + dosage and filled it within half an hour.
KayakerMel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:37:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, when I say I recently moved, I mean I moved from the UK to the US, so I couldn't get refills on my UK-issued prescriptions (I tried). One of the prescriptions is Tylenol 3 (cocodamol), so I couldn't get that from urgent care (it allows me to work full time with fibromyalgia).
handjivewilly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have to have our scripts faxed now by State law, but the backup doctor is a big no no. In my Specialist office, a doctor who has been with the practice for years, would write scripts when the Doctor/Owner of the practice was out of town for patients of the doctor/owner and now because they did that the Owner of the practice is up on federal charges. It can be a very screwed system. I am very lucky in that we have great insurance.
jpkotor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:24:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American pharmacies do this too. A lot of places even communicate with my clinic's EMR system and we get refill authorization requests in our inboxes that we can electronically sign off in our downtime for our patients. That, or the patient simply calls in and tells our admin staff that they need refills on certain meds and then the staff put the messages in our inbox. Plenty of people get their refills without an appointment.
In my experience in the ER, most people coming in for refills that they couldn't get because they "changed doctors", couldn't "see their PCP", and other doctors that don't know them "refuse to prescribe" are looking to get narcotic prescriptions refilled.
PM_ME_SHIHTZU_PICS ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hate to tell you this (that's a lie) but you are what is wrong with the medical field at large. Most of the people that I've ever seen are coming through the ER because they need med refills for their mental health issues and the clinics are so backed up that they could not see their psychiatrist for a refill before they ran out. Most psychs will not refill psych meds without a visit.
You are what is wrong for furthering the sigma that everyone in pain or in need of a pain script refill at the ER is a drug seeker.
JFC get out of the medical field.
CheckmateAphids ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:05:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should have asked Skinny Mike down the road - he can get you PCP.
NeedsMoreTuba ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The last time I was in the ER I passed out right outside of triage beside a solo cup full of blood that I had just vomited up and I had to wait to be seen behind 6 hours' worth of people who just felt icky or something.
So don't go to the ER and take up a bed that somebody really, really needs if it isn't an emergency. Laying in the floor didn't help.
sg92i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a video a couple years ago of a woman who up & died in a waiting room for an ER and no one noticed or cared to check up on her after she keeled over.
NeedsMoreTuba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thing is, the triage nurse stepped over me every few minutes for an hour until her shift ended and then a cop that apparently wasn't a cop (I remember a police officer) put me in a wheelchair. Everybody that went for care ahead of me was ambulatory, able to consume fluids and form coherent sentences. I was in the floor with blood coming out my mouth. I could go on about it, but yeah man. Don't go to the hospital if it can be fixed by the Urgent Care or especially by the general physician.
shinypretty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does she pay her ER bills? If so, she's being an idiot to do it this way. You can negotiate uninsured care costs with a doctor's office for a lot less than an ER visit runs.
If she's not paying the ER bills, then she's milking the system and I am gonna judge that like crazy.
sg92i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true for GPs but its not true for specialists. IME if you call a specialist trying to negotiate a cash-price for a visit they just turn you away or throw out some obscene dollar amount to make you go away.
I have never been able to have a specialist see me while uninsured.
oldcreaker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:57:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also used to be the default on weekends before urgent care clinics. More than once my kids got sick and looked like waiting until the doctor's office was open on Monday wasn't going to work.
Stephen1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do you not get billed by the ER in the US then?
TheHatOnTheCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, when I was working at a group home I had to take one of our kids to the ER to get a rash looked at. Not an emergency just we needed a doctor to tell us what it was/if it was okay. The agency was getting him insurance but it hadn't come through yet apparently. (And I guess wherever he was before hadn't bothered??)
Jbrahhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They can if it's not an emergency.
fatboyroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's literally how I had a doctor at all as a kid.
Saque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So they legally CAN turn her down if she isn't having an emergency. Most er's don't because $$$, but they can. They must triage you, and if it's not an emergency, meaning if you wait until morning to go to an urgent care or your pcp, there won't be any loss of life or limb.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the "solution" that my mom proposes for eliminating the ACA. It is so frustrating to have to continuously explain that having people who can't afford insurance overload the ER isn't a solution.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
theres no walk in clinics anywhere?
Dingo_ate_my_pizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is an ER doc and he says at least half of his cases are like this.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:13:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Urgent care, community health clinics, etc. are all options
sg92i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those rarely exist outside of urban areas, and even then many small cities don't really have any.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ERs are also pretty rare in rural areas...
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:07:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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weretomato ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:39:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where I live the 2 urgent cares close at 5 and one is closed on the weekend. It's not always that people are lazy. Sorry we can't schedule our injuries or emergencies better.
Kinolee ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:28:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only for actual problems, though. The ER is required only to stabilize patients to the point where they can be safely discharged (or admitted), regardless of whether or not they have insurance or the ability to pay. Someone coming in solely for a pregnancy test will be turned away if they have no insurance, and even if they do have insurance they will be sitting in the waiting room for hours as they are at the bottom of the triage list.
nucleophilic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an entire part of the ER devoted to stuff like this where I work. It's "express care" and it's not uncommon to do a blood draw on someone just for a hormone level. People with less serious issues also go through there instead of the actual mods. They don't get turned away if they don't have insurance.
raka_defocus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:12:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The last ER I worked in, if it wasn't covered by EMTALA your ass was out the door. Also went to a zero narcs filled in the hospital or ED policy.
Anderj12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or if you just don't feel like waiting to see your doctor, or if your friend is there for something and you just want to get something "checked out" ...
I am an ER nurse and very few ER visits are actually emergencies.
cynoclast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Land of the fee, home of the slave.
livingfractal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the few things public health clinics can actually help you with.
Renovatio_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So go to an ER without insurance and get charged thousands or go to an urgent care without insurance and get charged hundreds.
glamouramore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so sadly very true.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't have Health insurance the ER is a big free urgent care.
foreoki12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free until you get the bill.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Billed until you file for bankruptcy.
foreoki12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Filing for bankruptcy isn't without costs of its own.
GunsGermsAndSteel ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 00:16:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife works in the ER... it's 99% people with the sniffles, people seeking opiates, and parents freaking out over bullshit.
Literal words that came out of a parent's mouth: "Well he was playing with a toy sword and swinging it around all, like, violent. He's never been a violent kid. Something is wrong with him".
Lady your kid is playing with a toy fucking sword. Go home.
athaliah ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:42:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to know what's parental bullshit and what's not. Like my son was in a car accident today and I just wanted his doctor to look at him and tell me he was fine and answer some questions I had (ie., will he get whiplash, should I give him pain meds), but she told me to take him to the ER instead, so I did. Half of me wanted confirmation he was okay, and the other half knew he was probably okay and that I was wasting the ER's time.
C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:14:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, with car accidents you can be perfectly fine for a few days and then suddenly you're in excruciating pain seemingly out of nowhere if you don't do anything to get checked out. I've got a couple friends working in the ER at a hospital near me and they always take car accidents seriously, because you have no idea what kind of internal damage is present but waiting before it shows itself. It was definitely the right decision.
athaliah ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You made feel so much better with this explanation, thanks.
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People have been internally decapitated in an MVA. Walk around fine until they shift their head the wrong way and drop dead.
cestlavie922 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And by that time, the damage may be significantly worse than had you gotten it checked out right away.
cestlavie922 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your situation is not a waste of the ER's time. Your child was in a legitimate accident, and needed to be checked for possible internal injuries, etc. That's not parental bullshit, that was you being a good mom. The aforementioned mother, however, was being ridiculous.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds to me like your head is right where it should be. Certain things like car accidents and near drownings (probably any potential head trauma) should always get checked out.
OrchardandCanal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ER I work in has an admission rate of 25%- so they're are some sick people who visit, but you're wife is correct, a lot of these people show up for who knows why.
GunsGermsAndSteel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I mean of course I said "99%" figuratively rather than literally. But it's ridiculous some of the stuff people come for.
justanormalperson_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been in recently for rabies shots, only place that had them available. And migraine cocktails. And an ectopic pregnancy that ruptured. And my kid dislocating her shoulder at 7pm. Happy to keep that 1% going strong, wish I got a loyalty discount. Sigh.
GunsGermsAndSteel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's really lame is my wife, an ER nurse, literally will not use the ER for anything. If she cut her damn arm off she'd say "bah, I'll just duct tape it back on and go see my regular doctor on Monday".
grievous431 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the worst: "work note-itis"
We had somebody come in complaining of sinus congestion for 30 minutes
pablo_escobarjr ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:29:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an EMT in the US, I take patients to the ER for silly reasons because most think they'll be seen faster
Murse_Pat ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:55:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a little bit of Justice when someone calls EMS for a bullshit complaint like that and the charge nurse just says "drop them in the waiting room, have them sign in"... Most expensive cab ride they'll ever take
AllieC12 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then having to call someone for a ride home at 3am after 6 hours in the waiting room and 30 minutes in the back.
heiferly ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are ERs in the US that are so busy, that people who are triaged at the highest acuity level still get dumped in the waiting room, because there are no more rooms and there's no more room in the hallway and they simply cannot accommodate even one more patient. As someone in the field of patient advocacy, I want to point this out because people need to know that the fact that you've been dumped by the ambulance in the waiting room instead of taken directly back for treatment in the ER, does not necessarily mean that your issue is not serious. Do not leave the ER just because there's a wait; if you feel you have an honest emergency (chest pain, shortness of breath, fainting, uncontrollable vomiting and/or diarrhea that has gone on for days, abnormal bleeding, head injury, possible internal injuries, high fever, symptoms of infection like heat/redness or foul smelling pus, etc.) stay and wait to be checked out.
Murse_Pat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:53:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very good point
uglyslob ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:38:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL like those people will ever pay their bills.
Murse_Pat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm my area is usually the entitled well off that get shipped out front for that nonsense... Usually the poor know the deal, at least most of the time
canarduck ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's different types of poor. There's those who we're talking about above, and then there are those that wont let you drag them into the rig even if their guts are hanging out of their stomach. "No I'm fine, I'll make an appointment with my doctor when i get home from work". "Sir you literally might die"
PM_ME_A_CUTE_PET_PIC ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:57:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the second one, only I was trying to treat shit myself rather than call a doctor since I was totallly uninsured and have the worst medical luck.
The one time I gave in was when I sliced a chunk off my finger while working a part time job. First I finished my shift because I didn't want to lose any money. Tried to fix it up myself when I got home and blacked out in the process.
Finally gave up and went to the ER, had to haggle with them when the bill came. That's one of those things only poor people know: you can haggle hospital bills in America.
pablo_escobarjr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the greatest feeling when you drop someone off in the waiting room with a BS reason and then see them 3 hours later waiting for a cab
drunkenknight9 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side, when I bring a patient in who is in real pain and requires immediate attention but they send us to the waiting room because the beds are full it's more than a little frustrating.
Murse_Pat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They should probably be on diversion at that point
drunkenknight9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To where? The non-existent other hospital? No one has ever been diverted from this hospital except during an MCI. The next closest hospitals are 30, 45, and 60 minutes away and ship everyone here. It's the only level one trauma center in the state and it's the only hospital in the most populated county in the state.
the_falconator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and the triage nurse promptly sends them out to public triage and they don't get seen any faster.
CartoonsAreForKids ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:31:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also the only way to be admitted to a psychiatric hospital quickly.
frogsgoribbit737 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. My brother spent a whole night in the ER once because they were having trouble finding somewhere to put him.
Murse_Pat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't get you admitted any faster around here... Unless you're talking about getting sent from a psych facility to the ED for medical screening.
If you show up to the ED in crisis, we (depending on the issue) take your belongings, put you on supervision, and IF there is a case worker we start making calls, if not then sometimes we give you a list of facilities and a phone and have you make the calls... Inpatient beds are EXTREEMLY limited some times, especially if you are under age
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Murse_Pat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on how it's implemented, that sounds wayyyy better
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Murse_Pat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm basically drooling thinking about having access to that for my patients it feels like we barely have that in all of Pennsylvania with how hard it is to place patents most of the time, and how far we end up shipping them
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Murse_Pat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, and thank you for the hope that some day things may get better here โบ
ekilz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:27:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say having a child with someone you've known for less than 6 months is life-threatening.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ElleJay9924 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you in ohio?
CursesandMutterings ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:15:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER nurse here. This is one of the most frustrating things I have to explain to my patients when I discharge them. "Yes, I DO believe that you have chest pain ... however, it's not a heart attack, pneumonia, pulmonary embolism, or a pneumothorax, so go see your primary care doctor tomorrow."
People act pissed when I give them this news. YOU'RE NOT HAVING A HEART ATTACK, ACT HAPPY.
Dr_Dornon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:51:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People will go there in the US for little things. A lot of people without insurance or with state insurance will go to the ER because its hard to find a doctor that will take your state insurance.
frogsgoribbit737 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:27:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too true. I was on state insurance as a kid cause we were poor. There were two dentists and one pediatrician that took it. I was going to a pediatrician until I was out of high school because no other places that would take it had any openings.
Dr_Dornon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:29:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a doctor's office. At least with my state, doctors have to operate at a loss most of the time when they accept new patients with state insurance. It's sad to see people being turned away, but at the same time, I know these doctors can't see people for free.
DPleskin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
canadian here. people go to ER for the flu and shit.
ch1llboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Second that. I've lived in 2 remote communities and 1 small city with ZERO doctors taking patients. In conditions like that you are asked "If you are here to see a doctor"
A_Gigantic_Potato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also for draining your bank account :(
pepe_le_shoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if you walk into A&E here in the UK and just tell them you're pregnant, I'm pretty sure they'd tell you to fuck off and buy a pregnancy test from a store.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha I waited 8 hours in the ER with a burst appendix (or at least it burst sometime while I was there), almost died. This was in Toronto.
Expedited my ass.
AvatarofSleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to a prof of mine. They put him in a back room and forgot about him. Nearly died.
myutopian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've got pretty good sandwiches though. The ER is a place to get sandwiches! Note: I work in an emergency room.
singlebuttaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a whole world of people who don't understand this.
Stephen1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sure seems that way, imagine how bad it is when you live in a country with free healthcare. I want to slap the shit out of most people.
Looking through the lists now we have a few generally unwell, D&V (stop coming to hospital and spreading your shit), a baby with a temp of 38. These are the same people who will sit complaining of waiting times.
nubsuo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in Canada it is. I waited 4 hours with a smashed up foot, but I had to take a number because 40 other people had a cough or their finger hurt.
QuinZ33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is far too limiting.
For example, when I had a sharp pain in my testicle, I was told to go to the emergency room to rule out testicular torsion.
Losing a testicle isn't a life or death situation, but it's something that needs urgent treatment.
Waiting around for a urologist appointment just isn't feasible.
That's the whole reason hospitals generally have urgent care facilities attached.
myutopian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's for acute care as well. There's a big difference between potentially losing an organ and deciding that after 2 months I coughing, today's the day to see a doctor.
rosatter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I went in when my IUD decided to half expel itself. It wasn't life threatening but it was extremely painful and bloody and I sure as hell wasn't waiting 2 days to get into my gynecologists office.
TheGamingGeneral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Canada it is cause people don't care if its the appropriate medical channel.
zephyer19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the surgeons I worked with made the complaint "We have people with the flu coming into the E.R. and people with broken bones going to Immediate Care clinics, one of the reasons we have expensive health care" He is very right.
A_Drusas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's true. Went to the ER for chest pain, was told I wasn't having a heart attack. No help at all in determining actual source of chest pain.
Ariboo02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in college, I was still on my parents insurance so it was either go to the ER for $100 or take a bus home for the week. That was some expensive strep throat ๐ญ
wha7thmah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol if only
drunkenknight9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like your optimism but I'm going to have to prescribe your a daily dose of reality so things don't get out of hand. Side effects may include a healthy distrust of humanity or temporary insanity.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And woe to those who are in for legit medical emergencies and have trouble getting the attention need. Sheesh. I'm just on the patient side of things and gd do I hate hospitals though I've spent far more than my fair share in them. If it pissss me off when those types of people come in I can't imagine what it feels like for the staff.
Also sucks because I have a rare disease and can be reasonably functional even in some varieties of serious emergencies and while I don't blame anyone for making me wait and it's probably beyond their control to some extent. Suuucks. Or I can get back fast at the good hospital with a lot of knowledge about my disease but still waiting to see a doctor because some bozo two rooms down is drunk and screaming is not fun. Or I have a central IV line which means I can't fuck around with fevers because it could very well be sepsis. I still do my damnedest not to go in, or I used to until until ending up rapidly going into septic shock because I wanted to wait until morning. So it sucks how many times I've not been taken as seriously as I should've been because every Tom, Dick, or Harry with a slight fever shows up to the ER every day.
project_valient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also the only place open Christmas Day night... Just had to take my daughter in for a strep test.
KittenTendies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*Used to be. It seems that many of the hospitals near me are setting up their ERs as competition to walk-in clinics, even opening stand alone ERs in strip malls. And it sucks when you have a real emergency. A few years ago I went to the walk-in clinic with an excruciating headache that had lasted for a week, along with some other symptoms. The doctor there, after examining me, said I needed to go straight to the ER with orders for a CT scan. She said that I really should go in an ambulance, but since I had someone else drive me, it had already been going for a week, and we were less than five minutes from the hospital, that we could forgo that expense if we went straight there. Walked into the ER, gave the attendant my write up from the doctor, then waited close to an hour to be seen. Only person ahead of me in the waiting room was a guy whose kid had the freaking flu. Turns out I had a brain tumor the size of a plum and had surgery a few days later to remove it. The flu is not an emergency, and this during normal business hours where the ER is not your only option.
Seanatronic ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
somebody tell Republicans this
tyrelltsura ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:59:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heck a walk in clinic can do that. or just take more home pregnancy tests. You are waaaaayyyy more likely to get a false negative on them than a false positive.
Whizzzel ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:21:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did she think they would do for her?
TheBlindCat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:27:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an EM resident that sees this every couple weeks. Basically the answer is "I want an ultrasound." Or double prove they are pregnant with the same urine pregnancy test they used at home.
Whizzzel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so silly. There's really nothing to see until you're a couple months in at least.
cptstupendous ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:30:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It saddens me that someone who is that stupid is procreating.
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:38:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kinda agree- I mean, if you've been dating for years and just can't get legally married for money reasons, etc. it's fine with me. But don't have a baby with some dude you barely know thinking he's your ~true love.~ It's not gonna work.
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sweetprince686 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, weddings tend to be one big lump sum of money, whereas babies are expensive, but in more of a steady drip spread out over years. Which is a easier thing to manage for most people.
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sweetprince686 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
absolutely not. but unless you are going down the line of you, partner and two witnesses, costs climb really fast (I had a really shoe string wedding, and it still ended up costing ยฃ5000). You can also make having a baby really cheap with second hand clothes, washable nappies and such. it just comes down to personal choice. if you want a wedding that's going to have 12 bridesmaids and a designer wedding dress at a castle, then having a baby is much cheaper.
LietusRain ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone would make the decision of abortion for themselves even if they support other's decisions. Or the don't know they are pregnant until past the cut off line.
Astroviridae ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:35:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're trying for a baby, I'd assume you wouldn't want to abort it.
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LietusRain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People who have children together, but are not married.
LietusRain ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 21:58:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of couples are stable without being married. Plenty of married couples are not remotely stable. Plenty of single people are stable enough by themselves.
trancematik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
6 months seems like the perfect time!
august3489 ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 21:53:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being unmarried doesn't mean you're unstable.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:37:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not get married if you're so sure you're gonna last with someone and be able to start a family?
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:16:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oh__golly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also weddings are expensive.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But getting married isn't.
oh__golly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true! Typical linking of marriage and wedding. God my family would kill me if I eloped.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know! My family is quite religious, I am not and neither is my boyfriend but holy hell I mentioned once that I wanted either a small "red neck" backyard wedding and SHIT HIT THE FAN. I'm like OKAAAAY mom and dad, then you pay. They said they would.
LietusRain ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:41:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps there are other things people would rather spend $50 on. Marriage is not the end all be all for everyone.
spriddler ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:52:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you cannot afford that you sure as shit cannot afford a kid.
LietusRain ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:12:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say couldn't afford it. I said would rather spend. Personally, there are many things I would love to spend $50 and would totally be worth the time and purchase. To some that may be a marriage license. To others perhaps not.
LegoCamel6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Paying money to get legally bounded to give 50% of my shit to someone? Fuck that!
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep
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LietusRain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:23:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who has a baby "just for the heck of it" is already making a poor choice. Ideally, a child should be a welcomed and loved addition to a family. Which isn't always the case since there is rape, incest, accidents, people who don't know they're pregnant, etc. However, having a child, but not being married doesn't mean someone is having a child "just for the heck of it."
august3489 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone has that conviction. Doesn't mean they're more or less capable.
librarychick77 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:52:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone believes a piece of paper is a magical thing that crates a stable home. Plenty of married people have rocky (or just straight up bad) relationships. Walking down an isle and saying some stuff doesn't f ix that.
I know people who went about things the 'baby first' way, and quick - who ended up in wonderful relationships by working hard to be together and make a good home. But the logistics of getting married first were less important to them.
Unless you're IN the relationship it's not your decision.
But I've met plenty of people (married, or long term relationships) where the phrase "We're trying for a baby" has made me wince.
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librarychick77 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:56:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of reasons - personal beliefs (not wanting the government in your relationship, disliking the historical context of 'property' of women, etc.), cost, distance, situations in life, etc.
Why does the status of other people's relationships bother you so much? That's the real question.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:07:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't. I was asking a question out of curiosity. I wouldn't have a baby with someone unwilling to marry me or with someone I wasn't so sure about. In that case, I'd rather stay single.
You can do whatever you want. Most people do.
librarychick77 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:21:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed. I've been with my So for 10 years. In our case it's a fair few number of reasons, but it boils down to the fact that we both know and trust we're committed.
We will get married at some point, and I personally want to do that before we have kids, but it's just not that big a deal to us. I know a fair number of people who just aren't interested in the official marriage thing at all. Wide varieties of reasons, but it doesn't make their relationship any 'less' meaningful or real.
Percinho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone cares about marriage or sees it as this huge and important thing that has great significance to your relationship. If your Mum has been married three times then the whole concept of it being an everlasting commitment to the other person kind of gets blown apart.
To many people it isn't about money, it's about not needing external validation of their relationship, which is how they see marriage.
Now I'm like you, I knew I wanted to get married before we bought a house together and had kids, but that doesn't make it the 'right thing to do', it just makes it what I wanted to do. Marriage only has significance in the people involved believe it does, and plenty of people have perfectly valid reasons for thinking it's irrelevant.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never said everyone has to get married. I only asked why wouldn't someone who was committed to another person marry them? If you can't commit, you obviously shouldn't get married.
Percinho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because not everybody believes in the significance of marriage. To some people it is a complete irrelevance that has no significance to themselves, their relationship, or their level of commitment. To them the question is why would they get married. Marriage is only important if you believe in its significance, and lots of people don't for a variety of perfectly valid reasons.
LegoCamel6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:33:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents have been together for 20+ years, never got married.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soo then stay single. The end.
Percinho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:34:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just don't get married and live happily ever after together as a family. The end.
m0rsm0rtis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does being married have to do with being stable? If you're gonna have an opinion, make sure it isn't stupid.
zanzertem ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:53:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't the '30's. Marriage is overrated.
frogsgoribbit737 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe to you, but if you want any say in you SOs life, the you do it. The fact that gay people fought tooth and nail for it for years to have it and get everyone here says it's useless shows a lot. It's like antivaxxers in a world that's safe from disease because of vaccines.
LegoCamel6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:36:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It goes both ways, your SO shouldn't push you to marriage to stay in her/his life. If you are not compatible then move along.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, agreed!
legumey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A faint positive might indicate an ectopic pregnancy. Obviously your coworker was most likely acting like a twit, but faint positive+severe pain could mean life threatening condition.
Gunkspargle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on how early she tested. If it's before her period is due then a faint positive can be normal.
legumey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true as well.
ageofpwnage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read an article about how doctors actually tell their patients to come in more often than they need to so they don't get bored.
In other words, it's not wasting the doctors' time and resources
boopersnooper1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's wrong with having a child in your early 20s? That's how 99% of human civilization has been doing it since forever.
gracefulwing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can literally walk into planned parenthood and do a pregnancy test, for free. They give you a cup, you piss in it and put it in a little dumbwaiter in the bathroom and press the button. You go chill in the waiting room for ~1 hour, get your results. Then, depending on what you get, you go home or schedule your prenatal visits/abortion. So, so easy, and they can test you for a couple STDs they can see in pee too if you want.
flamingmetalsystemd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The stupid part is that she procreated.
mdp300 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm more concerned that they're trying to have a baby after less than six months.
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it was an emergency!
keeperofcats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...I just can't imagine purposefully trying to have a child with someone I've only dated for 6 months.
Carpenter_816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Annnndddd.....they're procreating...great.
Jamessuperfun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not trying to justify their behaviour, its a shitty thing to do, but I have a feeling she may be in a better financial situation than most. Often people stop being bothered by overpaying for services when referring to something important to them if they have more money than they need.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, that is the worst sentence I've ever read.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
raivahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBH our urine hcg tests are essentially identical to over the counter ones. Her serum hcg would be so low at that point that even drawing the blood is pointless. Ugh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry these people always make the most dedicated parents...to the puppy they get after they are sick of their kids...and the kitty they get after they are sick of the dog that used to be a puppy who the kid who used to be a baby won't take for a walk.
Galevav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Women in the area used to spread โthis one little trick that doctors hate!โ, And yeah, we all hate it. Instead of going to their prenatal appointments, expectant mothers would go to the ER and tell us they had abdominal pain just to get a โpicture of the babyโ (the sonogram). We suspected that was the case, but didn't say anything until a mother was open about why she was really there.
New policy: we don't give out baby sonograms in the ER. Go to your OB.
SayceGards ยท 616 points ยท Posted at 21:03:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A slow and uncomfortable death too!
Aiurar ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:10:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, Diabetic Ketoacidosis can kill people in a matter of hours, and often causes excruciating abdominal pain as your organs eat themselves thinking they are starving.
Euhn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:40:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, almost died from that. Usually what kills you is that your blood becomes too acidic, and overwhelms your body's natural ability to compensate for that. Bad things start happening, like having real low levels of potassium in your blood. Your muscles NEED potassium to work right... including your heart.
Lochtide7 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:20:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True and you always correct for potassium first before supplying insulin. Many med students don't realize this and suggest to give insulin right away, not realizing you must correct potassium levels first.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I thought you had low total body K, but actually had hyperkalaemia because K wasn't able to get into the cells, so you have low intracellular K. Then when you give insulin the K moves back into the cells, and then you end up with hypokalaemia if you don't correct for K.
I think I need to revise that again (med student btw, preclinical years).
Lochtide7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK sorry so this applies for sure if you have hypokalemia, copied form uptodate: Low-dose intravenous (IV) insulin should be administered to all patients with moderate to severe DKA who have a serum potassium โฅ3.3 mEq/L. If the serum potassium is less than 3.3 mEq/L, insulin therapy should be delayed until potassium replacement has begun and the serum potassium concentration has increased. The delay is necessary because insulin will worsen the hypokalemia by driving potassium into the cells, and this could trigger cardiac arrhythmias.
So if hyper or your potassium is normal then sure its fluids + insulin, but if your hypokalemic you must correct that first.
SayceGards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:58:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware, I've had it before. But I was referring to the long term effects.
Lochtide7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another way to think of it: Ketones are released as the body burns fat for energy source. If there are no carbs or sugars in the blood for a person to consume, your body turns to it's fat supply next and that results in high amounts of acidic ketones entering your bloodstream. The issue is not that your organs actually eat themselves, its the fact that your pH levels goes way way down, becoming quite acidic, causing damage to all your organs as that acidic blood is moved throughout the body.
ffxivfunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Death rates from diabetic ketoacidos are <2% in first world nations. It's easily managed assuming you go to a doctor, albeit not particularly pleasant. If untreated, it will kill you, but it's very rare to die from it when treated. We've saved people with blood pH of 6.9, which is quite frankly ridiculous.
Aiurar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Note that I said "can". I've treated my share of DKA, I know what's up.
ffxivfunk ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:20:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's not nice. It's amazing the number of diabetics we get who just don't comply with medication, diet, etc. AT ALL. Diabetes is a serious condition, you can't just ignore it.
icarusbright ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:31:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This fucking rages me. My uncle has diabetes and still drinks like 2L of coke per day. Then wonders why his opticians say he's going blijd and his feet are purple. Who the fuck cares if you don't like diet coke?
Sun_drop ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:23:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not exactly in shape but I cannot imagine drinking a 2-liter bottle of pop per day. I get queasy just thinking about it.
DaedalusRaistlin ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:31:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived with someone who did this. She "didn't like water." So she guzzled soft drink (pop, soda, whatever) all day instead. And wondered why she couldn't lose weight.
Some people really don't like water, it's too plain for them. Eventually she weaned off the soft drink and started drinking water, and is doing much better health wise. Not sure what made her stop, she definitely never listened to me. Maybe a scary doctors visit...
mirshe ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:47:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really like water, but I got around that with those drink mix packets (the sugar free Crystal Light stuff usually).
cantstopthecrabs ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really can't comprehend this. It's like saying you don't like food.
ericisaac ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:02:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People that don't like water, think they like food, but it is likely that what they eat is barely food to begin with.
CX316 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:56:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, y'know, they live somewhere with barely drinkable tap water and grew up tasting that shit.
PooptyPewptyPaints ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a lifetime of indulgence and spoiling with no discipline or self-restraint whatsoever
cantstopthecrabs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:25:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice Group X reference.
Cell-i-Zenit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get it. If i drink water without gas, it tastes like nothing/plain.
cutelyaware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't like water either unless it's from my Britta filter and I'm really thirsty. The stuff goes through me in seconds anyway, so it seems pointless.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:15:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a 6 year old wrote this comment.
cutelyaware ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:12:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be so hard on yourself. You did correctly use a two syllable word.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, don't get me wrong I wasn't referring to your grammar. My comment was in regards to your seemingly gross misunderstanding of the health benefits of drinking water as opposed to other beverages.
cutelyaware ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I know. You just thought I was stupid, so you decided it was your job to insult me for it. Truth is I don't drink a lot of fluids of any kind because I don't seem to need it, given my Middle Eastern genetics. But don't let me stop you from drinking one community's tap water bottled and disguised as glacial water, shipped and sold for more than what you pay for gasoline.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, nowhere in my comment did I insinuate that I purchased bottled water but you can feel free to assume that. Also, while I have no idea what your individual water consumption requirements are, people, regardless of heritage do need to consume a minimum amount of water daily and the best way to achieve that is just straight water, not soda, milk, juice, or etc.
Lord_Trajan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't have to do with your middle eastern genetics, people really don't need as much water as what I like to call "big beverage" makes it out to be. Humans get pretty much all the water we need from food.
cutelyaware ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like "big toilet paper", because there's long been this idea in America that people should drink 8 glasses of water a day. Or as Homer Simpson recalls it, 8 glasses of gravy.
Lord_Trajan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, yeah, that is what I was basically referring to.
WalkToTheGallows ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it was the only thing to drink, I could easily gulp down 3-5 liters in a day.
I'll probably run to the toilet every 5 minutes as a consequence.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I loooooove me some Diet Coke and can't down that much. I mean, I could probably do it if I worked at it, but I'd be a belching machine and my co-workers would complain.
icarusbright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The key is to mix it with vodka.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry for my ignorance. Diabetes means your body doesn't produce enough insulin to deal with all the excess glucose in your blood. Doesn't this mean that you'd just need to inject more of it in order to be able to drink a lot of soda?
Technetium_Hat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he is talking about type 2 diabetes,ย when your body is resistant to insulin rather thanย dependent on injections.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it'd work with type 1?
robinscats ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:56:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. Type 1 is an autoimmune disorder where the body does not produce any insulin and there are specific antibodies that are present. Type 2 is more often than not brought on by lifestyle choices and is usually preventable and gives lots and lots of warning that it's coming on.
As a management tactic, though, it's more than just injecting more insulin to counteract the sugars. Your body does not want sugar in the blood stream. In a normally functioning body, when you eat something that is high in sugar, your body produces the insulin to immediately move that sugar to your cells for storage and/or use as energy. In a diabetic who doesn't produce enough insulin or who doesn't produce any insulin, that sugar can linger in the blood stream until you get around to checking your sugars and dosing up and it's dependent on you dosing correctly. Sugar lingering in the blood stream over time can cause damage to capillaries which leads to diabetic neuropathy and diabetic retinopathy and if left untreated, can lead to sores that don't heal and gangrene and loss of limb or eyesight.
Sugar, processed carbohydrates, etc., all produce a high blood glucose response. so there are extreme highs and then lows as insulin is given to counteract the high. As a matter of control, a diabetic needs to maintain level blood sugars as much as possible. For a type 2 diabetic, that means no added sugar like soda pop, restricting processed carbohydrates like pasta, bread, crackers, etc.
vaginasinparis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention not taking your dose of insulin to cover the carbohydrates you ate makes you feel supremely shitty usually within 15-30m.
cutelyaware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where are the artificial pancreases? Seems like we should have them by now. Hearts too for that matter, though I realize that's much more difficult.
topasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Various groups are working on them. Sometimes some advances get posted to r/diabetes. This seems to give a fairly good comprehensive current overview.
It bugs me though, that they're called artificial pancreases. They generally only inject insulin, or insulin plus glucagon or some other glycemia raising solution, which approximates the functions of the pancreatic alpha and beta cells. The pancreas produces several other hormones and pancreatic enzymes which these so-called artificial pancreases do not.
cutelyaware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That all sounds very positive to me, thanks. Really glad to see increasing progress. Seems like all it needs to do initially is be as good as a perfectly self-injecting patient, and the sophistication of the additional hormones and enzymes will quickly follow. Also had no idea that DIY solutions were happening. Very cool.
Hippy_the_Hippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its actually best for T2 diabetics to avoid all carbohydrates that effect blood sugar. The body does not know the difference between "process carbs" and 'natural' carbs they all raise blood sugar levels, except for fiber and some sugar alcohols.
A diet for prediabetic and T2 diabetic should be lowest in net carbs (total carbs - fiber). These diets can even reverse pre & T2 diabetes
RedAlert2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not really feasible to keep up with massive sugar spikes as a T1 diabetic. Only the pancreas is tuned enough to handle that sort of thing. With a pump/injections, you'll bounce between way too high and way too low.
vegetablegroundbeef ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:12:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I speak as a Type I diabetic here, and you are probably thinking of Type IIs. But the experience and the fall out is very similar for both diseases even if the treatment sometimes differs. Diabetes is not a disease where your doctor says, "Here is your treatment plan. Follow this and everything will be fine!" You are not just expected to watch what you eat. You have to calculate the nutritional values of every single thing entering your body. And guess what! Your body doesn't necessarily react the same way as everyone else's. It's a guessing game where you use trial and error to learn what you can handle and what you can't. And then, maybe you had a stressful day at work and your bloodsugar won't come down. Maybe your menstrual cycle is messing with your hormones and your bloodsugar doesn't react in the usual way. Maybe you have no idea why it's not responding as expected. I have had days where I go low for hours at a time, despite eating everything in sight to bring it up. I had a stressful living situation in college that was affecting me so much that I developed insulin resistance. And doctors aren't necessarily helpful or willing to work with you. Sometimes they respond not unlike you are responding now. "Well this is the hand you've been dealt and you just have to deal with it."
Sometimes I'm shocked at how little some diabetics seem to care about informing themselves about their own disease. But for the majority of us, we are trying. We are struggling with depression and chronic disease fatigue and an extremely demanding disease from which there is no relief. Don't sit there on your high horse and judge us for slipping up. In a way, I'm happy that I have Type I and not Type II. As a Type I, I have no insulin function left to preserve. My body destroyed it all as part of an autoimmune reaction. If I'm having a craving and want to indulge in something (like a donut), I can adjust my insulin dose and eat the damn donut. Type IIs don't have that option, because they are trying to prevent the further deterioration of their metabolism. It's exhausting in either case, but I have a lot of sympathy for my Type II friends.
thisisnotmyname17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:19:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My goodness, bless you.
vaginasinparis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:06:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a fellow T1, thank you for this post. I hate when people post judgy comments about diabetics without knowing the full details or really anything about diabetes.
vegetablegroundbeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel you!
topasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for your insight. I know more about type II than type I, but from my discussions with doctors, they seem to do a paint by numbers type of thing, prescribe metformin, aspirin, a statin, etc. and try and ignore symptoms that may say there is more going on then a textbook case.
And, as you say, if type IIs get too high, they can't just take insulin if they are not insulin dependant. Their options are exercise (which raises it as well initially, but uses a lot up), reduce stress if they can, and not eat until it lowers.
Lochtide7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either or, type 1 or 2 diabetes is quite serious, many Aboriginal people in Canada suffer from type 2 and I deal with it at work all the time - very poor med compliance + bad dieting etc
vegetablegroundbeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying it's not serious. We are bombarded from the moment we are diagnosed with all of the terrible consequences we face. And frankly, Type II in particular has a much higher occurrence in minority populations such as blacks and hispanics. I am not familiar with statistics of the Aboriginal population of Canada, but my larger point is that a lot of medical professionals treat diabetes as a paint by numbers situation. I have been a Type I for 23 years and I can tell you that sometimes it feels more like throwing darts blindfolded.
JE3146 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a fellow type 1. Thank you.
NineteenthJester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is a lifelong Type I diabetic and struggles with this. She says menopause is a bitch to deal with.
It's my stepbrother (also Type I) that I worry about. He does not take care of himself at all and I don't want him to end up with amputated limbs like other people mentioned in this thread :/
vegetablegroundbeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How old is your stepbrother? I feel like almost every single one of us has at least one phase where we go through this. I had mine in high school where I just didn't do everything I was supposed to and because I was on multiple daily injections, I didn't have consequences for a long time. Then I ended up in the hospital for 5 days with my first bout of DKA - not fun. Sadly, it was not the wake up call it should have been and I continued the behavior (somewhat modified) for a couple more years until I finally got my act together. As I mentioned, diabetes (either type) is exhausting to deal with. You can try to send him over to r/diabetes which has been the support community I really needed - I hated the local support groups. But honestly, if he's just not ready to help himself, there isn't much that anyone can do to force him. I hope he figures it out!
NineteenthJester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's almost 21 and yeah, I think he's still figuring his shit out. I hope he can figure it out soon too!
AOEUD ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:22:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not aware of any patient group with good compliance. I'm leaving the medical field to work with obedient machines.
Edit: I just found one! I went to a presentation on preserving donated organs!
AnonymousNecromancer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:10:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they are ignoring it, then evidently you can ignore it. I expect at some point an unhealthy lifestyle just becomes a habit you're unwilling to break. You'll die after having parts chopped off over the years, but at least you got to enjoy a glass of soda with every dinner, or something like that.
The real horror isn't that people are willing to kill themselves in stupidity. If they want to do that, let them. It's the enormous strain they put on the taxpayer. All the treatments and therapy they get is very expensive, and they evidently don't care. Just give them an ultimatum, either follow the instructions the medical professionals are giving you, or don't get any more treatment.
leonardoty ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:42:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not trying to demean your comment, plenty of people fall into the description you've given. But there are also plenty of people who are just burnt out. Being diabetic is tiring. You feel like you do everything right but your numbers are still bad. One day you're great, the next day you do the same thing but some small change happens and you're having a shit day. Doing that for years gets old and some people just give up. I haven't given up yet. But I see why people do.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a type one, nothing bums me out more than going to bed with a sugar of 150, waking up with one at 300, taking insulin and drinking water, checking again and finding out it's still 300 with no explanation.
It's a disease where you can do everything right and you will still have bad blood sugar days. The good news is, you're generally not gonna die from one day of bad blood sugars unless you're like 600 all day.
thisisnotmyname17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang in there!!
thisisnotmyname17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hang in there!!
Raknarg ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:13:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being diabetic is hard as fuck, man
topasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really, whether type I or type II, when diagnosed, diabetics should be at least offered counseling and support and that should be available throughout treatment. Just telling them that the test results came back, you're diabetic, here are your prescriptions, please lose weight (if obese), eat less carbs, cook with coconut oil, exercise more, and come back in 3 months isn't enough for most.
The diabetics go home, research some on the internet, repeatedly see that there is no real effective cure, that the disease is progressive, etc.. I really think many go through the whole several stages of denial thing - denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. I think that initial week or two would be a great time to guide/counsel the person into the lifestyle changes needed while dealing with the issues mentally.
And it is hard for them when the live with others who are healthy and refuse to accommodate to the lifestyle the diabetic needs. I am not saying nondiabetics should have to change in any way, but it is a tempting thing for a diabetic, who likely should not be overeating, should not be eating unhealthy, should be exercising, etc. when they continue to be surrounded by people who do causing the diabetic difficulty complying, especially when depressed.
And some diabetics don't get all the tools to treat themselves as best as they could. For example, some type IIs may be prescribed only 1 test strip per day. Type IIs, especially new ones, need a bunch per day to learn what to do. E.g. they can fast, take a reading, eat some food, and test again in 1 hour to determine how their body reacts. Some may be ok eating a few peanuts a day but for others a few may send glucose skyrocketing. Some may want to keep their numbers as low as they can and without insulin they may want to eat less if their glucose is higher just before than they like. They have to be able to test to know how they are doing.
deedeebobana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people absolutely do not take diabetes seriously. Or they feel like it's no big deal, just take some insulin! It's terrible.
vaginasinparis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed that type 1s (which I am) adhere so much more strictly to regimens/medicine than type 2s - any insight as to why?
MrLeo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A type 2 diabetic can get away with bad control and suffer comparatively more minor immediate consequences than a type 1, as a type 1 can either run very very high if they don't take insulin, or go dangerously low if they don't balance insulin with carbs. Type 2 needs good control of course, but I feel type 1 has more dangerous immediate consequences given that you have little to no insulin in your body as opposed to insulin resistance.
Also, many type 1s get diagnosed as children and develop good habits managing it early in life.
vaginasinparis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair point! I was diagnosed at 10 so other than when I experienced burn out in my teens I've always adhered pretty strictly.
PooptyPewptyPaints ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you think they (at least type 2s) got it in the first place. It wasn't because they actually care about their health.
RNZack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes with gangrene too :(
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Painful**
tonylowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This coupled with the comment from /u/aroger21 is the hardest hitting in this thread.
SmallTownJerseyBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only will it kill you, it will hurt the whole time you're dying
Periculous22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:35 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just like life!
mortiphago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
faster than a healthy life for sure though
-The_Cereal_Killer- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Die or live fat?
Tough one, im not sure :/
SayceGards ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure you understand the pathophysiology of diabetes
-The_Cereal_Killer- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:32:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I do, maybe I dont. Mr. Fancy Pants Words.
BeastModePwn ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:36:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related to your second point, my med school friend has had to explain to a woman that "Amputations do not 'run in your family'."
Tyler11223344 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:32:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Well Little Billy, someday soon your legs will fall off too! Just like your father's, and his father's before him!"
internetsarcasm ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:00:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welfare requires proof of pregnancy to get benefits. They do not want a photo of your pee stick, they want something from a doctor. If you don't have a regular doctor, and you go to the ER when something's wrong with you, you're gonna end up asking them for proof of pregnancy.
opeesan ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:00:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not expensive when you don't have any intention of paying for it.
RazeCrusher ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:46:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never got this. I know the "do it at home" pregnancy tests aren't always accurate, but when my wife was pregnant both times, we just went to the local health clinic to get a 100% sure test, and it was only like $10 or something.
lowdiver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They use the same test at the health clinic as you did at home... it's the same pee stick test.
RazeCrusher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yea, but when doing it at the health clinic (at least around here) it is usually done alongside a blood test and pelvic exam for more accurate results.
Dampbridge ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:15:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's kinda crazy how many people treat the ER like a walk-in clinic, especially in the US where ER doctor's are so expensive.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:32:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Coming2amiddle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:14:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor American with no health insurance. Can confirm. :/ I hate doing it, I know exactly what I'm doing, but I like things like breathing.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Coming2amiddle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:34:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even with the medicaid expansion I've been denied 5 times. Once they approved it and then took it away again. My husband and kids are covered but not me. It doesn't make any sense to anybody but no one can tell me how to fix it. Obamacare will let me pay more than I can afford for a shit plan (covers 60%, which helps me not at all) and says I'm not eligible for financial assistance because I should have medicaid. It is beyond frustrating.
Thanks for understanding.
croknitter85 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:22:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had to do this, and it SUCKS! We are military on TRICARE and at the time they didn't cover urgent care. So, kid has a rash and can't go to daycare without a note from the doctor. You know there isn't anything wrong, just from the cold. No same day appts, like EVER, on base with their ped, only option, if you want them to go to daycare so you can go to work and not get crap for not being there ( and who knows when the rash will clear up b/c it isn't really a rash but just from a virus), is going to the on-base ER so they can give you a not. I HATED it EVERY time, but really there was no other option....Thankfully, they have started to cover urgent care if you can't get a same day appt.
_Fallout_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:06:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to our fucked up healthcare system
spriddler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In states with Medicaid expansion there's no excuse but it still happens.
Tjodleik ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:29:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But first, kidney failure, diabetic neuropathy, retinapathy and twice the risk of dying from cardiovascular diseases, with coronary artery disease being the biggest killer. Not to mention that ketoacidosis is seriously uncomfortable and should be reason enough to take one's medication.
AwkwardRainbow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:28:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait lose your toes? How does this work if you don't mind explaining?
ima_mo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diabetics are at higher risk for peripheral vascular disease (in this case, narrowing of the blood vessels, especially in legs and feet), which leads to poor circulation. Prolonged, excess blood sugar also leads to nerve damage, impairing a diabetic's ability to feel pain (also especially in the hands and feet).
Poor circulation in the toes means that less nutrients go to the toe, which may lead to damaged tissue from nutrient/oxygen deprivation. Also, any outside damage to the toe (eg if the person stubs his/her toe) won't be felt as strongly as it should, and won't heal as quickly as it should anyway. Damaged tissue eventually dies and then needs to be cut off.
Jedecon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:57:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diabetes is a son of a bitch. One of the most common symptoms is peripheral neuropathy, which is basically nerve damage in the extremities. Diabetic people commonly lose feeling in their toes and feet.
Diabetes also leads to poor circulation, so when you have an injury it can take a long time to heal.
So, let's say you have diabetes and you buy a new pair of comfortable shoes. Problem is, you can't feel your toes very well, so you can't feel it when your big toes rubs the end of the shoe. It starts as a blister. You can't feel the blister though, and your eyes aren't as good as they used to be, so you don't notice it. It keeps rubbing. You keep not feeling it. A couple days later, you take your sock off and notice a red spot. Fuck. You go to the doctor. He tells you it isn't bad, but reminds you how easily these things can get out of hand, and asks you to come back so he can check on it. The doctor cleans it, bandages it, and sends you on your way. The sore just doesn't heal. After a couple weeks it gets infected. Your doctor does what he can, but without good blood flow the soar is growing. Every time the doctor thinks he has gotten the infection beaten, it comes back. Eventually, the doctor comes to you with some bad news. The infection is spreading. You can either cut the toe off and have a smaller clean cut to worry about, or you can risk the infection spreading further and losing the entire foot. You schedule the surgery, and throw your big toe a small sad going away party.
AwkwardRainbow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you at least keep it in a jar to show your grandchildren? Kidding, but damn that's horrid. I don't wanna lose my toe.. Thanks for the explanation! Also probably stupid question can you run without your big toe?
ImbaGreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could donate it to the Sourdough Saloon in Dawson City. The sour toe cocktail is pretty popular there.
Jedecon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can run without a big toe, but it wouldn't be ideal. Your big toe takes the most strain when you walk and run, so without it your other toes will be unhappy. Your gait and balance will also be screwed up.
You can replace a lot of the function by placing a curved rigid plate in the bottom of your shoe.
ngwoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why's it usually toes and not fingers? Is it just that people see cuts/sores on their fingers earlier and deal with them before they get infected?
SteelbiteGaming ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:57:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad isn't diabetic, but his doctor said (from what I heard) that by all means he should, the 'numbers' don't add up as to why he is not. I'm really afraid for his health, considering he also has gout. How can I persuade him effectively to listen to his doctor and not go to a seafood restaurant after being told to not eat foods that are high in protein?
Bigbysjackingfist ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:20:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tell him he gets diabetes his boner won't work. people glaze over at blindness and missing toes, but they perk up when they find out that diabetes is boner poison
SteelbiteGaming ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:43:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll try, all three of those consequences are pretty scary
Bigbysjackingfist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You see those diabetic feet when they come off and they are some shit. Good luck, remember that as The Architect says, "denial is the most predictable of human responses" and you gotta let people make their own choices.
SmolderingDesigns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell him that some people, like me, have watched their dad go blind and suffer with this disease for their whole life. Tell him that even though people like to joke about "the 'beetus'" it's a horrendous thing to live with and affects my father every single day. Tell him to grow the hell up. Some people didn't get a warning before being diagnosed with diabetes. If you get a heads up, you better freaking listen to it.
DragonGod004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say losing your toes and then dying would be worse than just dying...
ffxivfunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well he didn't die that time, but he also didn't walk out of the hospital either.
um_hi_there ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who buys her pregnancy tests at dollar stores. They haven't failed her; they've been accurate for her three pregnancies since I've known her.
WhineyThePooh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear the ones from the dollar stores are generally just as accurate as the name-brand ones from the pharmacy... I'm thinking of getting mine there, now (I like to have a couple around just in case... never know when you or a friend might want to check), as the fancy ones can get pricey! You can always double-check with a more reputable brand, and you'd only be down a buck...
um_hi_there ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my friend would buy 3 or 4, and use more than one of them. Then if the greater of them were positive, she'd go to the doctor after that.
When I was pregnant years ago, I spent like $12 or maybe more on a pack of 3. I wish I'd known then about the dollar store ones!
THROWINCONDOMSATSLUT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm studying to be a pharmacist right now and work as a student pharmacist at Walgreens. It's aggravating dealing with some people and their meds. "Well I feel fine so why should I pick up my metoprolol?" Half the time it's not even a money issue since they're on medicare and their copays are so low. They just don't want to take their meds and then wonder why they have emergencies and need ambulances.
woozi_11six ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Ketoacidosis" does this have anything to do with /r/keto ?
theladycake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ketoacidosis is a condition that occurs when you have an excess of sugar/glucose in your bloodstream and not enough insulin. Insulin is a hormone that allows glucose to enter your cells to be used as fuel, so if you don't have enough insulin your body breaks down fat to be used as fuel instead. This causes your liver to produce acids called ketones into the bloodstream that changes the body's ph and really messes with your system. I'm a type 1 and luckily have never been in DKA, but a friend of mine has been hospitalized for it several times, and it's not pleasant. It causes vomiting, dehydration, and makes it hard to breathe among other things, and left untreated can lead to a coma and eventually death.
A Keto diet basically is a low carb diet that encourages your body to use fat as energy and to produce ketones. A non-diabetic person's body can burn ketones and it is not typically dangerous if you're careful, but can cause some imbalances if there is an excess (I don't know much about keto diets, this is just what a quick google search told me). Ketones in a non-diabetic person are basically caused by the body's response to starvation or to what it thinks is starvation (lack of carbs). I can't imagine it would be good for the long term, but that's just my opinion!
MentallyPsycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I FREAK OUT if I miss a single dose of my diabetes medication. It blows my mind that people don't take theirs. Are you insane!?
kagenoyume ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately the comment on diabetes sounds like a conversation doctors have had to have with my uncle..... :/
dedokta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US you mean. In Australia and many other countries ER visits are free. I cut my finger one time and went to the ER to get it fixed up.
OrganizedSprinkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing I actually found out I was pregnant at urgent care. I went in to get my finger xrayed and standard procedure they ask if you could be. I said maybe but probably not since we were doing fertility treatments. Peed in a cup and what do you know. Pregnant. The doctor was so excited to tell me since it was the first time she got to tell someone and they were happy about it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why so many people with diabetes choose to ignore or simply don't understand the severity of their condition. I had an old co-worker get sent to the ER with diabetic ketoacidosis because he was up drinking all night, was so drunk he didn't take his insulin (not to mention whatever spikes happen while consuming mass amounts of booze).
I stopped by the party and I kept asking him if he was OK, looked super pale and somewhat incoherent, his GF pushed it off as "he's just drunk." I told her he needs to go to the hospital.
2 hours later he's in the ER. I wanted to say "I told you so" so badly but decided to hold off since he was in bad shape and that would be a dick move.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Years ago one of the cleaners at work came to my office and was furious, banging her broom into everything. I asked her what was wrong and she told me that they were forcing her to have health insurance and were deducting it from her pay. She said it was costing her a lot of money. I explained that the cost of not having insurance was much higher. She explained that she'd just go to the emergency room like she's always done. After a few more questions it was apparent she would go to the emergency room for treatment and just never pay the bills.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in my 40's and it never occurred to me that you could go to the ER for a pregnancy test.
IdSuge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last year, during my M1 year I was shadowing an Endocrinologist and saw a patient with uncontrolled Type II DM. She had bad neuropathy, nephropathy, retinopathy, and moderate heart failure. All of these things happened because she has repeatedly and vehemently refused to take insulin. Her reasoning was that she knew someone in the past with diabetes who died that was on insulin and didn't want to take it. When the doc urged her for probably going on his 100th time to please take insulin or she was going to die, her response was, "When the good lord wants to take me, he can just take me then. I'm not doing it."
I just cannot understand this type of logic. It makes no sense to me. Like why even go to the doctor if you are not going to listen to what they have to say and would rather just die? It was so sad to watch this happen to someone, knowing the treatment is so simple. My job is to help people, but when that person doesn't want help, what else are you supposed to do?
JulianPerry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Type 1 Diabetic here, so much cringe. Really you need the medication (obvious) in ADDITION to a more healthy lifestyle overall. You don't pick one, you need both. Take your insulin, see your Endocrinologist every few months, take care of yourself or you WILL have complications. If you think it won't, IT WILL. The best (and only) way to treat it in some cases is to prevent it. Also, check out /r/Diabetes
smugliberaltears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shit, you'd be lucky if that's all you lost.
Ginger_lizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't have insurance, pregnancy qualifies you for medicaid in the US. But to apply you need a paper from a medical professional confirming the pregnancy, you can't just pee on a stick at home and bring it in. Medicaid is effective back to the date on that paper. This is why poor women with no doctor or medical coverage go to the er for a pregnancy test.
truelydorky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish it was that simple. Sometimes you can't always afford your medication.
Medaviation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am diabetic. Can confirm.
PhReAkOuTz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then you can also become Super Diabetic Man and fail at saving a man getting anally probed by a baton.
admiral_akmir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about the ketogenic diet people? Are they essentially putting themselves in this same situation through their diet?
deedeebobana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being on a no carb or very very low carb diet (I.e. < 20 grams per day) will put a person in a state of ketosis. I think this means that the body is taking its energy from fat stores specifically.
Being diabetic with incorrect insulin levels and getting to a state of ketoacidosis means that the organs start to fail and most probably death. (Had to watch someone go through this first hand. Very very sad because it was preventable)
Ketosis โ Ketoacidosis. Very different meanings/states for each word.
Gunkspargle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend from work always goes to the ER if she thinks she's pregnant. Like damn girl, that's a $450 copay. Go buy a pee stick or go to an actual clinic if you want blood drawn. The ER always gives her a pee test, never blood. She said "if you tell them you have a UTI, they'll see you faster and test you for pregnancy anyway".
She also goes there if she gets a really bad cold. I'm actually hoping she uses the term "ER" as all-encompassing and she's actually going to an urgent care clinic.
I do love her to bits, but cmon girl. Get it together.
timesuck897 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Losing a foot is one way to lose weight.
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER is free in australia
Pythias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most dollar stores have them too.
JimmyR42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry you have to deal with our snowbirds from Canada who are so used to having the public system take charge for them that they don't know shit about their own health because someone else has the ungrateful job of keeping an eye on them while they thank god for "his caring eye"...
sellyberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could be driving when you slip into a coma, that would be worse because they could really hurt or kill someone else too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if you are overweight, lose some goddamn pounds. Source: am pre-diabetic, but listen to the docs.
Bearacolypse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even better you can get them online on amazon in a box of 25-50 for about 10-15 bucks. As opposed to going to CVS/Wallgreens and buying a single one for 16 freaking dollars. This PSA has been brought to you by a woman with incredibly irregular cycles.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once went to the ER for a nosebleed, I really shouldn't have gotten an ambulance, that was stupid.
eninety2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why lose toes?
Mr_Marquette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on insurance. ER visits don't cost me a penny. (I'm in the US)
starsdust101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The second item is why my step son has been doing his own shots and helping with calculations for over 2 years. He's 10, and we want him to be confident and competent in taking care of it. Confident that he's taking the right amount, and competent that he can do it without help. It amazes adults he does his own shots, but it's better to get him used to it now instead of when he's in high school.
MagosBiologis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly don't get why more people don't understand that this is the "worst that can happen" for practically any disease or medical intervention. Are people so alienated from death?
SynthPrax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crazy world America lives in
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked in an ER full of white trash. This happened all the goddamn time, and when the doctors pointed out it was costly as fuck, the literally would laugh and say they got medicaid so it didn't matter, but if they were pregnant they could get food stamps AND WIC.
fetchit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People go to the er for minor stuff in New Zealand because it's free. But the local Dr is $60. They learn fast though, if you're not serious you wait hours.
shit_in_2017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(US) Assuming you can afford the meds, unfortunately.
Edit: specificity
daedalus-1776 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit! That got dark fast
Squambles_McFlanigan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking as a young type 1 diabetic, I don't understand how people can not understand the consequences of not taking your insulin properly. As well I don't understand how people can stand high blood sugar for so long, it's awful especially diabetic ketoacidosis, I experienced dka when I was diagnosed 7 years ago and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. Take your meds people.
WhineyThePooh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a type 1 diabetic and it's really disheartening to see people who just will not take their medications. My sister put me in contact with an older woman who was recently diagnosed as type 2 insulin dependent and I talked with her for a long time about all the different options and what might be easier and how its hard but she could do it. She didn't take her meds, her health declined, and she's since passed away. So sad. It's super scary to confront diabetes and take the reigns and handle it, I know that first hand, but you just have to do it... I wish people could figure that out and find the will and courage to take ownership of it.
formydumbquestion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is it that the toes/feet are first to go? Can it progress to other parts of the body like hands too?
Zanuan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice name bro ;)
drkztan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is an ophthalmologist, you would not believe the amount of people that lose their eyesight over being a bitch about diabetes medication. It's not even something common with less educated people, executives, engineers, biologists (the hospital is near a college campus & research "town") it doesn't matter, there is always one imbecile who refuses to follow medical instruction and fucks it up.
Death4Frm4Above ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Supercalidiabeticketoacidosis!
limpinfrompimpin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The doctor says if I put anymore of your baby in my coffee he's gonna have to take my foot...
Anderj12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, in most states, it's he cheapest pregnancy test you can get as long as you're on a state or federally funded insurance program like Medicaid or Medical because there is no ER co-pay For most plans.
Source: ER nurse in multiple states, have had this conversation too many times to count.
Gingerv1tis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn....
Hotwir3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shadowed in an ER one day for like 4 hours and saw this...
WhiteScumbag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a type 1, ketoacidosis is the scariest thing ever. I have only suffered from it once and it wasn't bad enough to be hospitalized. My pump stopped working while I was at school once and by the time I caught on (I was only 10 at the time and my parents weren't informed by the doctors of ketoacidosis) it was too late. My BG was higher then my meter could read. Now a days I am very good at keeping control of it and my A1C is down to a 7 :)
Lochtide7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well actually DKA is usually the first "scare" or event a Type 1 diabetic will have, that brings them to the ER then from there the diabetes is discovered. They would rarely know ahead of time they have diabetes, and then not take insulin and get DKA. Furthermore, type 1 diabetics are usually quite skinny, they don't produce any insulin so their adipose cells don't even take fat in.
SRT-Noles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I've gone to the ER they've made me piss in a cup to see if I was pregnant. Check the bill - $700 pregnancy test I kept insisting I didn't need.
5p33di3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who went to the hospital for a prescription refill.
coopiecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha!
ConcernedEarthling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much does it cost in the ER for a pregnancy test?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And what if they can't afford those meds?
rachmeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hospital pregnancy tests have the same sensitivity as dollar store tests.
Source: am laboratory scientist
DiabeetusProdigy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
brb...
StarsofSobek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a father in law with diabetes. He's basically stuck going through the revolving door of health due to heavy drinking (he believes Guinness and wine are sugar free), terrible eating habits, and choosing not to take his medication. He refuses to follow doctor's orders, and even goes as far to lie to his wife.
He is retired, but volunteers to taxi people around places, and is very dangerous.
What's terrifying is the fact that he will be so unhealthy while driving that he has even passed out/blacked out.
He "fell asleep" mid-sentence, while driving my newborn daughter and husband home. He was "asleep" long enough to drive up onto a footpath for approximately 3 meters.
The man literally loses motor functions and has even fallen over his own feet.
TL/DR: if you have diabetes, take your meds.
localbees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was sitting in an ER waiting room after a minor car accident. I overheard the nurses in the hallway talking about a diabetic lady that had come in earlier. It turns out she woke up to her dog eating her foot. I don't want my dog eating my foot.
BadBetting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your whole damn feet depending on the severity. Being lazy isn't an excuse for needing surgery amputations and expensive prosthetic and pt to be at max 80% of your original self.
PyrZern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you explain the link between diabetes and losing one's toes ?
thingpaint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, I watched the top of my father's foot come off because of undiagnosed diabetes. Not only wish I could unsee, wish I could unsmell.
TheBawlrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go to dialysis three times a week and everyone there is in an electric wheel chair with no legs below the knee. They bring Mcdonalds and big size sodas for their sessions.
Also they are dick heads because they do that shit where they talk at their smart phones on speaker instead of putting it against their heads like a normal person.
They treat the staff like shit.
alexouxou ยท 1964 points ยท Posted at 21:15:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That taking that weird plant they bought from a "pharmacy" online isn't 14.324 times better than chemo and doesn't only attack cancer cells because it likes the acid environment in it.
Curleysound ยท 631 points ยท Posted at 21:52:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This type of snake oil pisses me off. How did they respond?
alexouxou ยท 1296 points ยท Posted at 23:00:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With so many fallacious stupid arguments.. like "yes, but they drink that in a small remote village in the Amazonian forest, and they don't have any case of lung cancer"
Maybe it's because they don't smoke and don't have CT scans or biopsies.
manachar ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 00:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See! CT scans and biopsies cause cancers! There's another remote village with NO doctors and nobody gets cancer. /s
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 01:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been keeping all of the souls of the netherworlds from possessing humans and wreaking havoc in this dimension.
Have you seen any humans with the ability to walk on ceilings, spit fire, and vomit swarms of angry bees?
ppbfssh Didn't think so.
CutterJohn ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a rock that does that, so whatever.
valiantfreak ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:44:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to buy your rock
TheTartanDervish ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:37:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gawds, I remember the "shark cartledge is good for cancer because sharks never get cancer!" craze. Like society itself jumped the shark literally.
Brassens71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:07:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They just die of old age at 40.
JunahCg ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Do you want to die? Cause that's how you die."
I worry about this often. Once the women in my family pass 55 they seem to start disbelieving doctors on a dime.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:49:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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louisrocks40 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I don't drink so I'll never have to worry about reaching a lager age.
LevelSevenLaserLotus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:22:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't have a recorded case of any disease because they don't have doctors or patient histories! It's like the town in Hot Fuzz that was
halftrick ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:42:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thank you for genuinely caring, it's a great movie that shouldn't be spoiled
dansdata ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:24:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also love this version:
"This compound we've isolated from a plant used medicinally by a tribe in the Amazon is starting to show quite promising anti-cancer properties, in vitro."
"Aha, once again, the wisdom of the ancients!"
"Well..."
"What?"
"They were using it as incense to protect them from all of the diseases that are caused by witchcraft. Oh, and they also thought it was a laxative."
"Is it?"
"No."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta love confirmation bias
BadBetting ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and they die <30 and have few polutants. Far easier to die over nutritional issues than cancer back in the dark ages.
CSFirecracker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also don't generally live long enough in said villages to develop a lot of cancer cases
SleepWouldBeNice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or maybe because that stat is 100% made up!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Plague_of_crocus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well.....enough of them will.
Infinity2quared ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more that they diagnose cancer.
No CT scan? No cancer. You just have a mysterious lump you died of. Probably witchcraft.
salzst4nge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On a related note, Japan has a massively lower rate of lung diseases than any other ethnicity.
It is thought that the gene pool is the largest factor in this case
Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like that stupidity about shark cartilage being a panacea because "sharks don't get cancer". Yeah, actually they do.
EffectiveExistence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, amazingly they have zero cases of any terminal diseases! They all just die of "natural causes."
Big_mamas_account ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:45:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my dad had cancer some asshat sold him a bunch of amazonian chocolate saying it's a magic cancer cure. Not only that but it was a MLM thing where my dad was supposed to sell this cancer cure chocolate to other cancer patients. He ended up with like 8 boxes of crazily expensive chocolate bars in his kitchen.
People selling 'cures' to cancer patients are horrible but getting cancer patients into a fake cure MLM is even worse.
EightnAHalfFingers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:02:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun that you mention snakes, I had the chance to speak about chemos to a lady who was a herbalist/shaman specifically regarding the myth that snake meat/viscera could cure cรกncer, she said it was a rather absurd misunderstanding, according to her, it could help people to endure cancer treatment, but it was not in it self a treatment.
Curleysound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Snake Oil was a notorious "cure all" from the late 1800s https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil
Schadenfreude_Taco ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:19:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IN December of 2015 I got diagnosed with Sage 4b hodgkins lymphoma and while I was in the room recovering from the bone marrow biopsy they did at the beginning of my treatment, the fucking oncology nurse there was telling me that I didn't even need chemo but only needed to stop eating red meat and start eating more "hot" foods like ginger and kale. I was like, ummm, yeah, I think I'm gonna go with the chemo and maybe not die?
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:56:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a nurse tell me to "just chop them off" when she learned I had breast cancer. I told her that wasn't sound medical advice and she apologized for blurting it out.
Schadenfreude_Taco ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eesh, that's kind of insensitive, don't you think?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:37:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She probably thought, as many women mistakenly do, that no breasts=no return of cancer. This was at the plastic surgeon's office so I cut her some slack.
Schadenfreude_Taco ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:53:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
chop em off and throw some D's on it. Just like pimp my ride!
I hope everything went well and wish you the best!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Buddy Guy! I get my new cans next month.
We were both diagnosed Dec 2015; I thought I recognized your username. :) I hope things go well for you too!
DaedalusRaistlin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:49:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? "Sure honey, you'll be fine without chemotherapy as long as you eat this stuff."
I'm scared for the people who took her advice.
Schadenfreude_Taco ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:14:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, I thought the same thing! I was like, wtf is this, fuckin oncology department nurse telling me to do yoga, drink ginger tea, and start acupuncture to cure my stg4 cancer.
yeah, how about no?
Your_ish_granted ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:30:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should have reported.
Schadenfreude_Taco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:07:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you're right, I had other things to deal with at the time :-/
DaedalusRaistlin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:34:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you're doing better with actual treatment. It's a scary thing.
Schadenfreude_Taco ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:56:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ya, it was super fun. Started treatment on December 3, 2015 and finished on May 4th. Lost all my hair, most of my toenails, most of the feeling of hot/cold in my left hand, and a big chunk of my left lung due to a pulmonary embolism that happened on May 3rd right before my last treatment. Got the all clear back in July :)
fuck cancer, it sucks
TheNewElite250 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:01:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother has had four different fights with cancer in the past 30 years, and we've buried 3 family members in 2016 alone from cancer.
Agreed. Fuck cancer.
TheTartanDervish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised she didn't whip out a jar of leeches and lecture you about the body's four humors.
Schadenfreude_Taco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's western snake oil, she was from China so was pitching eastern snake oil.
TheTartanDervish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh well, you didn't mention that detail in your original. Ginseng cures all right? /s
[deleted] ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 22:36:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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alexouxou ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:02:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An Apple a day keeps the doctor away
Sam-Gunn ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:16:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially the old macbook air, those things were lethal with that sharp edge.
lemonade_eyescream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, Trump makes good on his promise to bring back jobs.
smugliberaltears ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thank fucking god.
ZordonFreemanI ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:44:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
remember he cheated the system and took a perfectly good liver with him
LadyInTheWindow ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:56:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my mom:( She tried to juice away a brain tumor. It got huge (was a menigioma so it didn't kill her). Finally had it removed, but she is pretty brain damaged now. Still swears juicing cures everything!
aman4456 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:27:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just dont understand this stuff. Your doctor has gone to school for atleast twice as long as you and is specially trained to take care of patients. If some random stuff on the internet could help your condition dont you think he would reccomend it. Or if you say they dont know about it THEN ASK THEM. I dont usually question my doctor because hes a hell of alot smarter than i am.
tommysmuffins ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:54:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Half the population of the United States believes what politicians and lobbyists have to say about climate change, but don't trust scientists.
So, I'd say it isn't too far-fetched.
Azara1th ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:00:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They think it's a global conspiracy to make more money by treating cancer with drugs rather than curing it with herbs.
MyUserNameWasTooLon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:23:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally all people need to hear is, "So the Big Pharma companies make more money of uncured cancer patients" and they nod their head in agreement. People are super gullible.
HowAboutShutUp ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:13:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean for people who remember stuff like the thalidomide scandal it probably isn't totally far-fetched to believe that pharma companies aren't always looking out for the best interests of patients.
Re-patenting albuterol after changing nothing but the aerosol propellant is another example.
You're not wrong, but there are things that can lead to those kind of leaps of logic that are semi-understandable.
mtled ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:27:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact about thalidomide: it's a racemic molecule, which means it can come as one of two forms (R and S) that are mirror images of one another and which can flip back and forth. If I recall correctly, the R form is a decent antinausea drug, and is still used in a variety of ways, actually, while the S causes birth defects. It's the racemic nature of the drug - the ability to flip which cannot be prevented inside the body, regardless of how pure your R form was - that caused the problems. Pregnancy is heavily contraindicated for all treatment plans involving thalidomide today.
This is actually a pretty big change to a drug product. You have to show (demonstrate through forced degradation studies) that the new propellant won't react with the drug, that it is stable (3+ years of testing, per lot manufactured for several lots prior to validation, and then ongoing for the lifetime of the drug), that it can be dispensed at adequate dosage (a more viscous fluid, for example, might undermedicate), that the drug is absorbed into the body as well as it was before, that no increases in side effects occur due to the change, and that it treats the indicated illnesses as effectively as the previous formula.
It's NOT a trivial change by any means, and anyone claiming otherwise knows very little about pharmaceutical drug development and validation. Heck, I know very little from only a few years experience in the industry, 10+ years ago, but I know it's a ton of work and $$$. It is absolutely a new drug product (though not new active ingredient).
I don't disagree with you, really, but it's frustrating what people choose to believe. You're just the recipient of my insomniac rant. Sorry!
HowAboutShutUp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:50:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But at the same time, is it a change significant enough to justify quadrupling or more the price of potentially life saving medication for asthmatics?
MrCar1os ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He did mention is was a ton of work and a lot more money
mtled ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:32:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. What was the market entry price of the previous version before it lost patent? Is it proportional, considering inflation and perhaps more expensive r&d costs today? Then it's a fair price, perhaps. You can't really compare a drug product that's out of patent with several competitors with a completely new formulation - they are in different regulatory, cost recuperation and market/competition environments.
I'm not a finance person and I don't know this case specifically (fuck, I work on airplanes now). It is quite possible, though, that a new, patent protected drug product costs four times what a previous, non patent protected one does. It is also possible that it's a massive money grab, but it is certainly the case that the new formulation SHOULD be more expensive. I just don't know by how much...and neither do you.
I understand the moral questions here - I'm in Canada, with better pricing controls and medication costs can still be crippling - but I've also seen the other side of it and someone has to pay for all the testing and work that goes into a drug validation program. Companies aren't investing years and millions of dollars altruistically.
HowAboutShutUp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the risk of getting beyond my depth, generics of the version that used a CFC propellant ran about 5 bucks. With the new propellant, the new patent versions are something like 40 or 60 if you don't have insurance I think? Part of what burns my biscuits about the whole thing is that the way I understand it, these drugs were originally going to get a pass on the CFC ban, given the relative insignificance of their contribution to the problem and the importance of the drug, but the name-brand companies lobbied for the propellant ban for the express purpose of being able to re-patent and price gouge patients.
I would also call it overly generous to call a propellant change a new formulation of the drug. It's still an albuterol/salbutamol inhaler, it just has a different propellant.
You are correct that I don't know how much more a change like that should cost, but I do think the justification is shaky and that the daraprim and epi-pen hikes are adequate evidence that pharmaceutical companies don't really have any qualms about putting the screws to consumers til it literally hurts.
mtled ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:37:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another thing: ANY change to the recipe (formulation) of a drug is significant. All you get to do is skip the early work on the effectiveness and toxicology of the active ingredient but changing a formulation - even changing inactive ingredients proportions by a few percent - is a scientifically significant change that needs full validation. That's the only way you can trust the final product and that it is proven to be consistent for every dose. It might seem minor to you, but as my old VP used to say, "chemistry happens, whether you like it or not". You always have to show that your chemistry is stable, and safe, especially after a change.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:09:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd argue that a lot of Big Pharma companies really aren't looking out for their customers (cough cough Epi-pen cough cough), but there would be many easier, less costly ways to make money than profiteering off of cancer patients. That whole theory is wacked.
MyUserNameWasTooLon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No they are not "semi-understandable". Yes there can be corruption in Pharamcy... but, there is also corruption in every other occupation ever and to judge a whole industry based of the small corruption is illogical.
HowAboutShutUp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't mean the conclusion it leads to is understandable, simply that it's possible to understand the thought process that leads them to that conclusion.
MyUserNameWasTooLon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can understand peoples train of thought, but those people can't understand others train of thought. I can't have a reasonable conversation telling them the world isn't out to get them.
bluesun_star ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:19:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in cancer research and whenever someone asks 'is there a cure that we aren't being told about?', I immediately lose all respect and will mostly likely stop talking with them.
EmilyVS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:12 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just wanted to say thank you for what you do!
dont_believe_sharks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to point you to a few posts above where a Chinese doctor thought you could get AIDS from a toilet seat.
ScreamingFlamingos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS. I work as a caregiver in an assisted living facility and sometimes a resident won't want to take a pill or follow a dietary restriction and my response is always, "well they did go to medical school for a bunch of years, so......" I usually can convince them to take the pill/follow the restriction. Like, I get it. You are 80-something and know a lot, but in this case, follow the doctor's orders!
throwawayrepost13579 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know funnily enough, a lot of new cancer drug delivery research revolves around using the tumor microenvironment's acidity as a means of targeted therapy. For example, some nanoparticles containing chemo drugs break apart in the more acidic tumor microenvironment in order to selectively release there. Probably not what they're referring to though!
gracefulwing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, let me guess, Ojibwa/essiac tea? It's definitely got immune boosters, but it's not gonna do a hell of a lot for cancer.
mylittlesyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also heard things like taking baking soda and lemon juice, tumeric, and vitamin C..... sometimes as a cancer researcher this type of shit makes me wonder why I'm trying to find a cure for these people... then I remember it's not for them, they just get lucky if I ever find something of use because then they benefit too.
bunchedupwalrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I know, I really do know that chemo is better.
But my dad was given a year or two to live, said no to chemo, took those weird herbal cure alls. Changed his diet. Had remission. Lived 7 more years. Last 2 were rough, his tumours would grow then shrink, then grow.
Just anecdotal. This was like 10-15 years ago, the odds given to him by the chemo were pretty garbage (which is why he declined), chemo now is literally light years ahead of where it is now.
But for every story of pure coincidence like this one, there's 10 more of people dying needlessly listening to idiots spout nonsense
fjccommish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but you only have to use .0000000000000000000001 ounces of the plant mixed into 10 gallons of water.
MargotFenring ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the ER waiting room overnight and an infomercial by David Wolfe (famed nut job who believes you can cure your cancer with diet) came on and I was actually somewhat outraged that anything he did would be broadcast in a hospital of all places. But they just had the same channel on all night so I'm probably the only person who even noticed, much less cared.
Bob002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my fucking lord, if I had a dollar for every damn time I heard something related to cancer treatment.
There's always weed. pH level. Other herbal remedies.
Sorry, but I believe in good, old fashioned science. And while I might give most other snake oil hoodoo a go, I'm still going to use fucking PROVEN SCIENCE.
patentolog1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steve Jobs?
Psycosilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a hospital, phlebotomist, in a very crunchy city. I remember one patient on oncology who was crying and very upset he had cancer because "I'm a vegetarian and I meditate and do yoga! How did this happen to me?"
Another time I had a patient who put crystals all around her room. These things were on the floor even and if you bumped one, you know like with a phlebotomy cart, she would freak out over me messing the energy up and that's why she wasn't getting better.
Kalandros-X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if that plant likes acid environments it's the perfect medicine for DOTA.
Nuclearfenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbors mom has cancer (it's in remission), she, on the daily, smoked about 3 or 4 packs. When the cancer hit she stopped smoking mostly because she kept getting sick, having strokes(which she fully recovered from), and inability to walk without assistance. Her son, really cool and nice guy, wasn't ready to say goodbye to his mom so he did exactly what you're talking about. He bought some "Sea cucumber" from the Netherlands or some shit. Spent 5k on it. He was hoping she would take it in addition to chemo. I knew it was bullshit and I wanted to ask him what the fuck was wrong with him. Eventually she got better and that's when the cancer went into remission.
So a quick recap: Smokes all day every day for some 25+ years, Gets cancer, has multiple strokes, recovers mostly fully from strokes (small ticks), gets really sick really easily, sick all the time, recovers from illnesses, cancer goes into remission... Goes back to smoking 2-3 packs a day.
She literally won the lottery in surviving cancer, illnesses, and strokes but decides she can't quit smoking because thats just ridiculous.
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 11187 points ยท Posted at 21:40:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was living in China and taught English on the side to a student whose mother was a physician. This was in 2012 just prior to the London Olympics, the mother wanted to send her daughter to London with a school group to watch the Olympics but has reservations about it. I asked why, she said she was worried that her daughter would catch AIDS from using the public toilets. Yes, a doctor.
RQZ ยท 7197 points ยท Posted at 22:45:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV education and awareness in China is severely lacking, even for educated doctors.
Source: Was Chinese
Edit: Chinese as in Nationality, not ethnicity.
[deleted] ยท 2575 points ยท Posted at 22:59:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was?
KOWLich ยท 6164 points ยท Posted at 23:32:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They got better.
FrostyLegumes ยท 1430 points ยท Posted at 01:36:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man... My buddy's girlfriend told me once "My best friend was Mexican."
I said "Was? They were cured?"
She said "No. I mean he died."
Fuck
[deleted] ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 04:58:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Step one: Open mouth. Step two: Insert foot.
FrostyLegumes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/cringe
MrBojangoUnchained ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:56:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Foot Fetishes For Dummies
benchley ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 04:53:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm having a weird reaction, which is equal parts "I totally would have said that," and "Oh man, I hope I can remember never to say something like this." Like a sort of instructive-hope-cringe.
I've been trying, as I get older, not to always go for the laugh. It's hard.
FrostyLegumes ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:27:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's me as well. Some of the things that come out or almost come out of my mouth - albeit witty - are NOT socially acceptable. That's a danger that comes with always being "on"
benchley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's got to be a word for this - either German, or fabricated for the internet with an artsy photo.
d_b_cooper ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:41:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
Nomulite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:32:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, how'd you get your profile picture into your username?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:53:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's no way you got out of that looking good...
FrostyLegumes ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:22:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I told her I was very sorry and I was just trying to be funny but I should have thought a little bit harder before I opened my dumb mouth. She was totally cool about it which was nice but then a felt like a bigger piece of shit. So yeah... No I'm an idiot
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could have happened to anyone, best not to dwell on it too much.
kumiosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:14:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's those little stupid utterances or reactions that are hardest not to dwell on. It's strange.
Poopyoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair my first actual assumption was they just werent friends anymore. either way if you ask you lose
JoXand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he's not Mexican - he's dead!
Bolcik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boi.
DiggerW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oof.. I could feel that one :/
moosimusmaximus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, he wasn't cured.
CaptainFilmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're still Mexican, just a dead Mexican
mungis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So.... yes?
Mr_Times ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 00:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SHE'S A WITCH
jadedsoul09 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 00:09:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She turned me into a newt....
balrogwarrior ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 00:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you dress her up like this?
NamesArentEverything ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 00:32:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We did put the hat on her, yes. And the nose.
caanthedalek ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:48:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit
I_make_things ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit
caanthedalek ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:27:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She has got a wart
PM_ME_YOUR_SPANIELS ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't look like a newt.
jadedsoul09 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:52:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..... I got bettah...
labrat420 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:32:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blasphemy! That is not a line
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That line was good enough for Jehovah!
Helios093 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?
l_dont_even_reddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, did she fold a fitted bed sheet?
GorillaJuiceOfficial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They mostly come out at night... mostly.
I_Fart_Liquids ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:45:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she float or sink?
spider1178 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very small rocks!
Rap-master6000 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:02:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah man it's terminal
GhostHitsMusic ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not if you have a magic johnson!
PizzaIsItsOwnReward ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:14:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now they're suffering from Mexicosis.
Sled_Driver ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chinese doctor cures being chinese...
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:32:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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h3lblad3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
็ฎ็ป้ฟๅฐๅไพฌ็่ฑๆ
Transientmind ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:21:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
่ฟๆฏ็งๆไธปไน
ATXBeermaker ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there an "It gets better" YouTube campaign for people who, through no fault of their own, are born Chinese?
tinfins ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:17:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was an eye-opening experience.
BaxInBlack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rest of the world really opened her eyes
myislanduniverse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear it's also sexually transmitted.
Stormwolf1O1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's great to hear! I've had acquaintances who never got over it, and they died Chinese. It truly deserves more attention from the medical community.
TheyToHe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AllAboutMeMedia ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:32:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see crearry now...
pukesonyourshoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...the Lain has gone
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now they're Korean? /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They bleached lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BURN HER ANYWAY
ragaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They got promoted to Taiwanese
hieronymous-cowherd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She became Taiwanese? TAIWAN NUMBA WAN!
RoyHarper88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jason's good now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
enough General Tso will americanize the best of em
Canadian_Infidel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A physician.
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And is now a newt.
grizzfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's still a witch!
randomguyguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RoR
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They used a toilet and now they're AIDS.
Khajiit001 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But not at maths.
SilverSky01 ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 00:02:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This person clearly had race reassignment surgery.
Now he/she is just dis-oriented.
FGHIK ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:41:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He ate so many burgers he became American
Jk, all you have to do to become a patriot is love freedom
and fill out some paperwork
ejaynesbeth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the underrated comment
Captain_Ludd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is chinese a race? is American a race?
PhilxBefore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take my upvote and get outta here, Dad!
FartingBob ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:32:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[Mitch Hedberg quote]
iznotiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Counter with Tim Minchin quote
SirLionhearted ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:05:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are Chinese people also dry clean only?
Matti_Matti_Matti ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:59:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chinese can be a nationality, like American or Australian.
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 00:39:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But your nationality can't really change. If I move to France and start speaking French, and gain French citizenship, I still wouldn't be French.
moltenshrimp ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. Isn't that exactly what that means? Are you trolling?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was taught that nationality is about where you are born and/or spent your formative years. Citizenship can totally change, but nationality doesn't. Wayne Gretzky has lived in the USA since 1988, but no one is going to claim he's not a Canadian.
Basic_Becky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:52:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I think of him as an American. I actually think you're wrong about nationality. If I'm a citizen of a country, I claim that nationality.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:06:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What counts the upper limit on "formative years"?
And what about the proverbial army brat who is born on a base outside of their country of citizenship?
Henry Kissinger was 15 when his family moved to the United States. Madeleine Albright was 11. Both served as Secretary if State, and one would be hard pressed to not consider them American.
UpDaFleadh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You were taught wrong, dude. Nationality and citizenship are synonyms.
EDIT: http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/nationality
heWhoMostlyOnlyLurks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC American law, for example, distinguishes between nationals and citizens. You can be a US national and not a citizen (but not the other way around). E.g., if you abandon your US citizenship you're still a US national, but no longer a US citizen.
moltenshrimp ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:11:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh! I actually never realized there was an obvious distinction between citizenship and nationality, but I get what you're saying.
SnakeJG ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:47:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got better.
itwasthechlorine ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:09:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lived in china
Buhlakkke ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:47:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was obviously cured....
SharknadosWriter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:57:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After watching mean girls, you're white.
HeroOfTheCourses ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:08:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trans-race/nationality?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:11:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps. Just felt weird reading was, as even those I know born in America to Chinese parents call themselves Chinese.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:53:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was born in Wales, to Welsh parents, and lived there for the most part of my life so far.
I'm Australian.
His_Name_Was_Lola ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:02:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was born in England to Irish parents and raised in Wales, which I think makes me Scottish.
waltjrimmer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:19:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was born in America and raised by a couple of Americans, which makes me an asshole.
werelock ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:32:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a patriot - I'm frequently confused by it too.
His_Name_Was_Lola ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:40:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Confirmed; American
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I think it makes you the whitest person in the world.
SwedishBoatlover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Born in Sweden, to Swedish parents with a long lineage of being Swedish (two different relatives, one on my mothers side and one on my fathers side, have done extensive genealogy. There's literally no immigrants on either side as far back as they went (on my mothers side back to early 1700s, on my fathers side all the way back to the 1500s).
I'm blonde with blue eyes, over 6ft tall and have a large blonde beard. I'm as Swedish as it gets. And as white as it gets.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:37:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did we just start a white power threat?
His_Name_Was_Lola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My massive cock says otherwise.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eyyyyy
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How long they sentence ya for?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well any sentence in Australia is a death sentence.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only because your Internet is shit.
ChefBoyAreWeFucked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chinese is a bit different. The people you are referring to are not ไธญๅไบบ, meaning citizens of China, but they are ไธญ่ฏไบบ, culturally and ethnically Chinese. I'm not sure if all Uyghurs would consider themselves ไธญ่ฏไบบ, but they are definitely ไธญๅไบบ if they are from Xinjiang. In English, we just say "Chinese" for both concepts.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
่ฐข่ฐข
COCONUT_BLUNTS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a real thing?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:54:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People usually call themselves whatever citizenship they are. This person probably left China. You would probably call them a Chinease-[nationality].
HoweHaTrick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chin-ease ya does it?
wardrich ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably on Tumblr
GreezyThunder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They took it away.
DrWhaleLove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was never the same since the incident.
christo334 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2spoopy4me
jackferrini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's cured
ageofpwnage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are you assuming my nationality?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To me, everyone on Reddit is a 30 year-old caucasian American male.
ageofpwnage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:40 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you live in a strange part of reddit.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being Chinese is not like being gay. It's a choice.
paradeoxy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They caught it off a toilet seat
kalabash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They sat on a toilet seat and caught a virulent strain of caucasles.
Funkmob925 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He evolved
qroga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One can quit a nationality. By the way, China doesn't allow people to have dual citizenship. My guess is that OP quit being Chinese in favour of another nationality. Their parents', probably.
BITCRUSHERRRR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taiwanese
JMAAB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spun around real fast, got disoriented.
Sorry
unidan_was_right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got AIDS and chinese can't have aids so the chineseness had to go...
tylerrosefan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It didn't take.
fish-fingered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because learning about AIDs was a real eye opener for OP.
pirateninjamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Decided to stop being so chinesieese
eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were turning Japanese, they were turning Japanese, I really think so.
RowOrWade ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 23:20:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also was Chinese. Parents told me to never buy thrift store clothing because what if the previous owner had HIV and their body fluids are on the clothing??
It's the poor HIV education compounded with the very real threat of body-fluid-transmitted diseases in China. Over 90 million people in the country have Hepatitis B, for example (WPRO source here)
mansionsong ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 23:54:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a Canadian currently living and working in marketing in China. I love this place and I try to learn as much as I can about it and appreciate the positives. However, they are goddamn terrified of tuberculosis, yet haven't made a reeducation campaign to encourage people to stop hacking up loogies and spitting them everywhere. You know a great way to spread tb? Covering public spaces with mucus. Ugh. Medicine in general is a bit of a cluster fuck here.
130alexandert ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:03:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit? That seems like a mutation away from the Black Death.
mansionsong ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's bird flu season here. This is not a place for people with weak immune systems.
Masqueraver ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:34:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an aside, I don't understand how anyone could get bird flu in China because when I was there, I didn't see any god damn birds ANYWHERE.
mansionsong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:42:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you go to a wet market? That's where the main problem is. Live poultry.
Masqueraver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see, that makes sense. No, I didn't go to any markets with live animals. It was really weird though, I went to places definitely more rural than a city, and I didn't see any livestock period. I saw a working donkey, 2 stray cats and 1 pet dog in my main city and those were the only animals I encountered in "the wild." It was so bizarre to me. But I didn't see any bugs either so it was cool.
130alexandert ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:12:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the list of reasons to stay the fuck away from China grows every day, since I don't like dog, or disappearing, or bird flu, or TB, or Internet censorship, or forced organ donations, or no free speech, or a whole host of things, I'm gonna stay in the USA, where I only have to worry about kids who have measles.
Pomeranianwithrabies ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:39:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And getting shot.
Recyclex ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:50:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure that's Brazil.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:56:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And having your pussy grabbed.
130alexandert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can just go to Hong Kong, but get the same experience and live to tell about it.
seppo2015 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:41:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is one big difference. The level of personal violence is much, much lower in China. I wouldn't worry much if my girlfriend bounced around a bunch of Shanghai clubs with her gf's... but the US? She'd be at a much higher risk of rape, beatings or worse.
130alexandert ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:56:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
China also has bullshit rape/mureder stats, garbage men find dead people regularly, and ate told not to report it.
SpaghettiTues ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Releasing the real numbers would bring shame!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:17:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mansionsong ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:29:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not like everyone gets them. It is more common than in the west. But none of my Chinese friends have done that I think. A lot of things get blown out of proportion here. If 1% of the population does something, it's like the same population as a small country doing something.
happy_tractor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:23:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a small case of the shits, of course since they use sewer oil in their restaurants, and my work insisted that I go to the hospital where they hooked me up to an IV for 8 hours, instead of letting me go home and sit by the toilet.
IV's are a massive thing here, for no reason.
AirRaidJade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is all coming as a great shock to me, because wasn't it the Chinese who were the first to understand and practice medicine at all? How did they go from super-intelligent innovative world leaders to dumbed-down ignoramuses seemingly living in the Dark Ages?
Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, keeping in mind that particular practice, then go to the grocery store and touch the uncovered meat directly with your bare unwashed hands to make sure it feels right.
My brother lived 5 years in China and never once tried cooking while he was there.
mansionsong ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:47:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't not cook because of safety. He avoided cooking because being a foreigner in China allows you to avoid taking care of yourself because you can pay other people to do it. What did he eat? That food came from the same grocery store he was avoiding. Even the fancy restaurants. Did he have a full time ayi too? Lol. My bf and I cook 5 times a week and have not yet had an ayi come clean (probably will when we move just to make it super nice for the next people) because we're grownups and we don't want to forget how to function in the west. Christ, I know a woman (who is not rich) who doesn't even raise her own child because her nanny costs less than $800 full time per month.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:26:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did the maths. China had nowadays a fifth of the world's population, and a third of HBV carriers. This means that per capita, there are 50% more carriers in China than in the world.
Not good, but that shocking either.
Finie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the math. I was just starting up my Google-Fu.
teaprincess ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:51:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I lived in China, one of my colleagues' boyfriend was a hairdresser so he offered to cut our hair for free if we needed a trim. He refused to do this for the one black guy because he assumed all black people have HIV and that he would somehow contract it while cutting his hair.
ChefBoyAreWeFucked ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:10:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why it's important that before you buy something in a thrift store, you make sure it's not soaked with blood.
Tauposaurus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, internet Chinamom!
AscendentReality ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*Is.
You can change your paperwork, you can change your views, and among other things. You can never change how others see you unless you do a full plastic surgery and change your skin. There are also fundamental things that makes you inherently different than others based up upbringing etc.
I never understood why some Asians born in NA would think this way. I think it's just immaturity and inability to accept yourself for being who you are. You are born as X, accept X, and make what you can out of life.
Kelpsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*am
If you're going to make a point, at least do it properly.
AscendentReality ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you are going to make a correction, do it properly and point out the right place.
Kelpsie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it was obvious. The first word in your entire post is what I was correcting.
"Also am Chinese" not "Also is Chinese"
Not to mention, you didn't point out the word you were correcting either.
Mank_Deme ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just have to eat a balanced level of cooling and warming fruits daily
plasmasphinx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:04:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree with that completely.
Source: Will be Chinese.
stevegothoso ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AIDS is an ethnicity, not a nationality
makeittothenextyear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on the area actually. The modern the city is, the better education it has.
RQZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's for sure, it all about awareness, and its so much better in the more modern cities.
backsing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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zacker150 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:59:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It appears you lack reading comprehension.
He's not saying that doctors in China are all educated.
He's saying that even the doctors with a degree that meets Western standards don't know shit about HIV
Yourstruly0 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure if they don't know shit about HIV they are NOT educated to Western standards.
Freakychee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the reason why we have so many stories of Chinese nationals squatting on sit-down toilet seats? Or is that just a habit from the squatting type?
himit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Partially maybe. People tend to think that squatting is cleaner because your skin doesn't come into contact with the seat
zunaidahmed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can you be a Chinese nationality but not ethnicity? I mean, I am because my parents worked in HK before it was return to China and they got HK passport, but I don't think there's anyway of getting Chinese nationality unless your parents/ one of the parents is/are Chinese
kenmorethompson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:15:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you misunderstood what they said, but to address your question, there are over fifty minority ethnic groups in China, accounting for tens of millions of people. Many of them aren't considered or don't consider themselves ethnically Chinese, even while holding Chinese citizenship.
zunaidahmed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, if that's the case, I totally understand, though I have to correct you a bit here, ethnically, most are considered Han people, not Chinese, if he said Han I would have understood right away, but as he used Chinese as a whole, most ethnics in China is still Chinese except some living in the border provinces such as HeilongJiang, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang etc. But I guess it somehow makes sense now.
kenmorethompson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No correction necessary. In my experience, if someone refers to 'Chinese' as an ethnic category they are generally talking about Han people, and possibly a few very closely related minorities like the Hui. I wasn't interested in snowballing this into an entire tangent about interethnic relations in modern China, so I just went with the language that was already being used.
The real takeaway here is that English speakers as a whole have never found China important enough to sort out the many ambiguities there are in English for talking about China. At least, not in an informal register.
zunaidahmed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agree with your last statement, I wouldn't have known so much about China if I wasn't born and raised there, it's Avery fascinating country with a very very interesting history.
deathnate4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wondered the same thing but I think what they meant is that they are no longer a Chinese national, but are still ethnically Chinese.
zunaidahmed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that makes sense.
Illtema ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
is HIV not prevalent there?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So...not Chinese?
Terminalspecialist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even now? That's pretty alarming. I was surprised how even in South Korea, STD awareness is pretty low.
sendtojapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source: I live in Japan and it's not any better here. I can't imagine what it's like in SEA.
usedforsex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just China, it's a lot of the Aidan territories.
Airbell12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The misconceptions might have to do with this story about genital warts being spread in a Chinese money counting bathroom:https://www.google.com/amp/nextshark.com/chinese-bank-teller-stds/amp/
HoweHaTrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to edit to remind presumably adult redditors that Chinese is not an ethnicity. This is the real gem of this thread.
pleasuretohaveinclas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a wife of a geographer, your edit made my husband smile.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In general doctors in the recent decade or after 2000s are fine. But going back theres some serious lack of training. Im talking about people who probably didn't go to a university or collage even. Their hospitals have some pretty bad policies like giving antibiotics for 2 days only or dumping people to IV for things like an occasional fever. The process is more orientated towards mass health care
Source: Have some family in China that are doctors, some things they do would be considered pretty insane like nerosurgery on 10 people a day or the GP that has hardly any training from Mao's era.
Senray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if HIV isn't specifically well known, shouldn't a doctor have the basic virology knowledge to know that it isn't easily transmitted?
AnticPosition ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our school nurse (in China) apparently doesn't know about germs, and thinks that sickness is caused by drinking cold water... on a hot day! @_@
2Jester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to stop having Chinese nationality but how did you have it without the ethnicity? Asking for a friend.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they're working on it, though. Was in Hangzhou, China 3 weeks ago and saw a large AIDS awareness poster in the airport.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any medical knowledge is severely lacking in China. Everyone and their mother swears by Chinese medicine. Fucking idiots seriously. So clueless.
Mary_Jane_Flowers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you, Japanese and Koreans differ by nationality only?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's seriously lacking in the states as well! My sex Ed teacher sophomore year told us we could contract HIV/AIDS and many other illnesses and diseases just from shaking hands or from public toilets!
Luckily I'm a germ freak and actually did real research. Scare tactics are not an effective sex Ed technique.
commentator9876 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suspect (depending on your location), general medical knowledge may also be lacking, not just HIV. You'll probably be okay in Shanghai or Beijing, but get a bit more provincial and standards fall.
It's certainly like that in India.
A school friend's parents spent a few years in Delhi for her Dad's work. So, western company, top end health insurance in India's capital city. One day her mum got bitten by a cat so she goes to the hospital in case of rabies.
The physician takes a look , frowns and says:
This was basically the top hospital in Delhi where westerners with all-singing health insurance from their companies go.
She got a second opinion and a rabies shot.
In case you don't know: pretty much any mammal can carry rabies - cats, dogs, bats. You name it.
TulipTeddyBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:20 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol thanks for the edit. Was so confused for a moment
butitdothough ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When exactly did you cease to be Chinese?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
China does not allow dual citizenship, so it would have been when they received citizenship of another country and renounced their Chinese citizenship.
caesar15 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:00:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations on your transition
as_above_so_below ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:14:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the govt gave HIV to millions iirc
noinfinity ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:37:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AscendentReality ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No...? Then you would say was a country's citizen.
Maybe you should brush up on your English before switching your documentations.
Even if you are born in US and your parents are Chinese, you'd still be Chinese.
I hate this line of thinking. Did you really think a paper defined who you are as a person? Do you think that other people in your country all consider you to be their race and ethnicity? No.
Grow up, you are what you are. Accept who you are. There is different type of people in every race. You don't have to do what other people in your race do, nor do you have to believe what they believe in. If you can't accept the fact that you are Chinese, and always will be one. I feel sorry for you.
friendlessboob ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 00:00:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source: work in IT with lots of Chinese and Indian people.
Some places "doctor" can mean "relatively rich family that bought diploma" and has nothing to do with experience or education.
Want to watch someone lose their shit? Ask an actually qualified, high performing, Chinese or Indian person about this system.
Double points if this person is female, the bullshit they have to put up with is literally unbelievable if you haven't seen it first hand.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:44:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I guess technically that is possible if you sit on a toilet seat that's covered in blood, right? Maybe the daughter was actually just that stupid?
VannaTLC ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. You'd have to rub that blood into an open wound, and that blood would have to be single-digit minutes old.
FlindoJimbori ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
like a boil. the paranoia in me thinks it could happen. always put tp on the seat first
aebl22 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:47:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes because toilet paper is a very effective way to stop blood borne diseases. The impenetrable toilet paper!
clarkcox3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realize that anything that can survive on a toilet seat for any length of time will not be stopped by toilet paper, right?
SkyPork ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:28:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it'd have to be really fresh HIV-infused blood, and it'd have to come in contact with an open wound.
AlwaysLupus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean...Have you ever seen a busy women's restroom?
"Covered in only blood" would probably be an improvement.
LucyLilium92 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I don't understand why everyone thinks that public toilets are even remotely clean
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hahaha good point
TheShattubatu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way you can get aids from a toilet is if you sit down before the other man leaves.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:56:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you people just can't let a guy have a little bit of fun, huh? It was a joke, dude.
TheShattubatu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it was a joke, that's why I responded with another joke.
VulcanHobo ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 22:00:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably of Chinese Medicine.
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:10:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, she worked at a public/military hospital.
Nibblewerfer ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:31:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That just makes it worse.
prattastic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most public hospitals also contain doctors of traditional Chinese medicine.
Arguss ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:35:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medicine with Chinese Characteristics.
(Idk how obvious this joke will be, but when China started becoming more Capitalist, the ruling Communist Party couldn't say they were turning away from Socialism, so in a speech the leader said they weren't turning away from Socialism, they were just adopting Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.
This is combined in the joke with the fact that China is known for having 'alternative' Chinese herbal medicine that people often prefer to so-called 'Western' medicine.)
trianuddah ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:45:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donโt be daft. If she were a Chinese Medicine doctor she wouldnโt have been concerned because a little snake oil in your tea will clear that kind of infection right up.
PaulMcGannsShoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put those maxi pad things in your feet when you sleep to soak up toxins
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i mean to be fair i cured my vitiligo with chinese medicine
BlueSignRedLight ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:16:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
User name checks out. Also there's a damn good reason I fly to Hong Kong for anything other than a papercut. 'Good for the healthy' is my most despised phrase.
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There were a few private western hospitals that I would go to if necessary. They had a mix of international and local staff that were trained to Western standards. I never went to a public hospital, I had a friend get misdiagnosed in Qingdao and it almost cost him his life.
CatnipCollective ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:52:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for the healthy, bad for the sick.
soyeahiknow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just go to a tier one hospital where rich people and party officials get treated at.
LovableContrarian ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:31:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have been to a hospital in China. Can confirm that no actual science happens there.
kallkalle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:24:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I heard, there is a lot of cheating an bribery at Chinese university, and medical faculty is definitely not an exception.
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes to an extent. I was a local grad student at atop Chinese uni and the cheating, plagiarism, paying for papers etc. was shocking.
MeshesAreConfusing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently the cheating there is a cultural thing?
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's become institutionalized, even among the top universities that accept a fraction of one percent of applicants.
cpt_pancreas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a problem when the rich students start going to other countries. They assume they're still in a system where they can just bribe and cheat their way through. Unfortunately some unis do let them get away with bullshit no poorer student would get away with but often faculty members can be pretty clear about their feelings on these students.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, at least until recently, the brightest Chinese students don't actually go into medicine. As a huge developing country, I bet the training in different institutions can be very inconsistent.
patentolog1st ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FIFY, you left out information that should have been reemphasized.
My mother was a med school professor in the U.S. Late in her career, she basically just ran a lab. Most of her lab techs were "doctors" from various random countries before they emigrated to the U.S. Their education was severely lacking compared even to your basic American pre-med bio major.
cheeseflash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a Malagasy guy with a PhD in biology try to convince me that if you get a spider bite, you have to inject scorpion venom into the area to treat it. Because scorpions kill spiders. So the scorpion venom kills the spider venom as wells. Other option was to soak a scorpion in the local rum and drink all of it to cure a scorpion sting. Because the scorpion obviously has the anti-venom to its own venom.
Chances are high this was all just an excuse to drink an insane amount of rum. Not that an excuse was ever necessary.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You only need the most basic of educations to be a doctor here in China. I've had arguments with doctors claiming that there was no such thing as a penicillin allergy. Competency is not a common commodity here.
HeirToPendragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever someone mentions Chinese doctors I instinctively turn it into Chinese "doctor".
When I lived in China and got a little sick, but enough to need medicine, I learned real quick to try very hard and never get sick again.
CosmicAdventureman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Serpentza is that you?
chimobayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Serpentza teaches doctors
What-The-Pho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got a white monkey job
Abrakastabra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So when someone was a doctor in China and moved to the states and is a janitor now, this is why.
KaiChymist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:10:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not always. The US just doesn't except anyone else's degrees and diplomas (yes there are exceptions but not many and usually there are very specific situations, that's why the testing of foreign students gets so weird).
I work in a chemistry department at a university with a lot of foreign students, it happens a lot. Especially with visiting PhDs. Our department rejected a Russian guy for a research position. He ended up winning a few awards this year internationally.
soyeahiknow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, its more like the USMLES and residency training program spots and language barrier.
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
london is famous for public toilet sex though
U237 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So how much did hey pay for their qual?
Georginator2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it is possible since aids acctually mostly resides in fluids so perhaps some non-piss fluids of aids infected people made it onto the seat and dunno what happens next but it is possible however tiny the chance is
Shumatsuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone in the IS that still firmly believes that the only way for a man to get AIDS is through an affected woman, who is on her period, and he has an open wound on his junk. That or taking dick up the ol' stinky dropper.
umbrellabranch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this isn't unusual even in the US. How many people still think you can get HIV by being pricked by a public hidden needle somewhere.
rustygrape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you can't "catch" AIDS...it's HIV -_-
Riptide559 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've met / talked with a lot of native Chinese people. They are scared to death of AIDS and feel they could catch it at any moment if the proper precautions are not in place.
That - and they all hate pot.
Chinese govt is working overtime over there.
diggexpat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can buy your degree in China, so I'm not surprised at all.
jostler57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in China and teaching, now. One of my coworker's parents is a doctor.
She explained that becoming a basic doctor in China takes many years less than it takes for US students to become doctors.
She said you can be a doctor after just 4 years.
passingglans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked with a major Nigerian bank in 2003. They'd taken the seats off of all toilets in their buildings because "toilet seats spread disease."
thatlonelyasianguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really sad how often you can go to the doctor's office in China only to see them using WebMD or Baidu to try and diagnose you.
HadHerses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still get told by my Chinese friends that only 'girls who like to have lots of sex' use tampons, because i live in China and often bemoan how the lack of options for tampons is ridiculous. And i guess that's why, tampons are for sluts!
There is a huge poster about AIDS though right outside my compound at the bus stop, encouraging people to talk about it and change attitudes, but people still think sitting on a public toilet will kill them.
Blitzkrieg_My_Anus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it possible that she's one of the "tiger bone" doctors? If so then it makes complete sense.
dmac0331 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother does janitorial service for Boeing in the Seattle area, she constantly freaks out about STDs and bacteria etc. I argue with her nearly every visit because she is confident that you can get aids from a toilet seat. At first I thought it was funny, now I find it concerning that she hasn't been educated well in the subject.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having been in public restrooms in both England and China I'll tell you that one is grosser than the other. Take a guess which one.
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bottom over an overflowing porta-john was cleaner than some of the public toilets I used in China.
RunningUpThtHill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was worried people would leave dirty needles there or something?
murphmeister75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The irony being that once upon a time, a lot of men did catch AIDS in London's public toilets.
ivancurtis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a housekeeper in Beijing who by chance met my gay friend (F) one day. She proceeded to do me the "favour" of confiding in me later that it was just not safe for me to be friends with a gay woman, "because lesbians get AIDS more than anyone else."
Score another one for the PRC's education system.
melikemonkeysex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she's not so crazy after all
touristoflife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a stereotype outside the west that western doctors are the best doctors in the world. This is an example of that.
OnlySolitaire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be friends with an older woman from Taiwan (in her 50s at the time, probably in her 60s now).
She told me how when she was in high school, there was a sex education component of her biology class. Her teacher skipped over this. He told the students that they could read it on their own. However, there was a test later on and if you answered the sex education questions correctly (indicating you had read the material) you would be considered a 'bad student' and have your overall grade reduced. Apparently this was customary at the school.
She went on to tell me how when she was in college, she sincerely believed she could become pregnant if she sat next to a male student.
FastidiousBrisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't take much insight to see that that woman has a reasonable concern.
I remember witnessing this same conversation between a teacher and a kid in grade two. After a lot of naysaying, the teacher was forced to admit that certain kinds of medications will indeed cause a patient to pass blood in their stool. Let's say an AIDS patient is a user of illegal drugs like marijuana, and they pass blood in their stool. Are you going to send your son or daughter into that stall?
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh?
Unusualmann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I don't trust public toilets to the point where I might as well pretend they'll give me super AIDS. I don't know who's been sitting on those and half the time they have urine on them.
rogicar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you expect when her education was made in China.
hurpington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was a traditional chinese medicine "doctor"
SenchaLeaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having sex in the toilet?
lone_wanderer101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well maybe she thought tweakers left used needles in toilets and her daughter could get poked by a dirty needle..
egg-rolling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Chinese I wonder if your Reddit name is what I think it means...
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ๅฏ่ฝไธๆฏใไฝ ่ฎคไธบๆ็ๅๅญไปไนๆๆ๏ผใ
egg-rolling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Replacement Foreigner?
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in both Beijing and Taipei, so I combined the first character from each city: โๅๅฐโ
egg-rolling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah. I over-read it. My apologies.
OhMyTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow I doubt that she was taught traditional modern medicine. I've worked with Chinese doctors and they know just as much as any of us American doctors. Maybe this was a "natural doctor" or some such thing?
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure of the extent of her education. She was a doc with the PLA and working at a military hospital in Beijing. In China, a military hospital is not like a military hospital in the US where only active duty military can go; there, it is only administratively run by the military for public use.
Bjw2nf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get AIDS from a toilet seat.....if you sit down before the guy before you gets up :)
unicycle-road-head ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get aids from a toilet if you sit on it before the guy using it gets off!
r2u2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many "doctors" in China practice traditional Chinese medicine and are not really doctors.
louiscon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
Bizzshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So this is unrelated but would you be able to point me in the direction of a good organization to teach English in China ? I'm a native US citizen with a BA in English
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My purpose for going to China was not to teach. I know there are dozens upon dozens of companies that will sponsor you to go there and teach, but EVERYONE at some point WILL get ripped off in some sort or another. There are tons of forums that discuss moving there to teach. Also check out thebeijinger.com for advice about Beijing specific.
Bizzshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool thanks for responding !
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well women can get pregnant by swimming in a pool
evilbrent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you or they mixing up AIDS with hepatitis?
BeiTaiLaowai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, we were speaking Chinese and I remember clearly because it took me a min to figure out she was saying "AIDS" in Chinese "่พๆป็ โ; which happens to sounds similar to the English pronunciation.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A legitimate question : what makes it absolutely impossible? I mean, AFAIK, HIV virus can be transmitted through bodily fluids and can enter your body through open wounds or through blood transfusion. Hence, keeping the Chinese doctor situation aside, doesn't public toilets ( which usually are not cleaned regularly ) pose a chance?
amyfus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:33:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An extremely slim one. Maybe if you sat on a toilet seat covered in AIDS blood with open hemorrhoids?
PM_ME_TRAPS_OR_FUTA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:37:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only scenario I can reasonably see would be if someone with HIV bled on some toilet paper and then you immediately used it for an extra deep wipe, even then transmission isn't very likely. Just don't rub any fresh blood or semen into your orifices or open wounds and you should be okay.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand. Was just asking.
Coming2amiddle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:52:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV will almost always die within minutes of being outside a host body. If you watch someone bleed all over a toilet and then rub the fresh blood in your open wounds, then you might catch it that way. (But you also might not.)
This is a fairly balanced article.
https://www.verywell.com/how-long-can-hiv-live-outside-of-the-body-48891
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice. Interesting article. I will try to read more since I am still unaware of a lot of things related to HIV. HIV can not live outside a host body = news to me !!!
Coming2amiddle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why it has to be transferred physically from inside one body to inside another -- sex, blood transfusions, fresh blood inside open wounds or, occasionally, in the eyes. Blood, semen, vaginal secretions, saliva, and breastmilk can transmit HIV. You're even mostly safe swallowing it because your stomach acid will kill it -- unless it finds another way in, and are you CERTAIN you don't have any esophageal erosions? Don't fuck around, but don't be terrified for no reason, either. :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I have always understood there is no reason to be terrified. And honestly, I also found some media portrayals bending the facts.
That said, improving awareness I guess, is the best way to contain the spread.
xxxsur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a chance? yes. but chances aren't higher in the UK, same chance of contracting HIV from toilet seats (if toilet seats prevail in their city)
Rhufus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once the HIV virus is out of the body, it's dead. Even if someone with HIV left loads of blood or semen on a toilet seat and you sat on it with an open sore, transmission would still be near impossible.
ywu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV virus counts need to be considered too. Also, you need to have an opening for the virus to get into you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors and nurses are the biggest hypochondriacs
valiantfreak ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 04:55:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was that patient once. In my late 20s I was fortunate enough to have never had a boil.
Nor did I know anyone who had ever had one so when I got one under my arm I just assumed it was some sort of sore that would go away. When it grew to the size of a weeping golf ball and became super painful I figured out it was a boil and knew that you fix boils by lancing them. Tried to stab it with my rusty penknife but chickened out and went to the doctor instead.
I took my soggy tissue away from the mess in my armpit and the doctor literally jumped back in horror.
I now know that boils do not fix themselves and should be immediately treated with antibiotics. Married a Pharmacy Assistant just to be on the safe side.
Black_Lannister ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a nasty ingrown hair on the side of my dick once. Started normal, no biggie. A month later started getting bigger but wouldn't get a head. Out of frustration, I squeezed it to try and pop it. It popped alright. Only not outside my shaft. It popped internally and now I had fucking TWO massive boils side by side on my meat tube. About the size of half a golf ball together.
I tried Lancing it. Don't do that. Finally went to a doctor. His face was priceless haha. Oh well antibiotics and a week later it looked like my dick murdered someone with its bare pubes because the thing popped over night. Long two months.
fragilelyon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:41:40 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even have a dick, and my dick hurt reading that.
valiantfreak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:01:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy hell. Didn't even know that was possible. No sleep for me tonight
DogsB4People ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:20 on January 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sincerely hope your dick is okay ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
My boyfriend got a ingrown hair on his, and finally asked for help -_- nastiest thing I've ever had to help with ๐ but once the hair was out it healed on its own at least ๐
Apex_Herbivore ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:21:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I always just use hot compress and anti septic liquid on them til they go away.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:47:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Apex_Herbivore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense
throwawaygpdoctor ยท 562 points ยท Posted at 03:43:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am GP in small town British medical centre. Older lady came into one of the day clinics with a large shopping bag emitting a foul smell, so much so we gave her the 'special treat' reserved for smelly patients of waiting in the doctor's corridor instead of the waiting room, having received complaints from other patients.
Said older lady comes into my office for her appointment and sits down, asks me how big the largest 'poo' I've ever seen - "as a doctor" - was. I demur and explain I don't actually see as much poo as one might imagine, and she proceeds to tell me an epic tale:
For the week before her appointment, she'd had the worst case of constipation she'd ever had. She tried and tried, but could not go to the toilet no matter how much olive oil or liquorice she consumed. Then, the day before the clinic, she felt "the urge" and found herself doing "the longest poo I've ever seen - it just kept coming, and coming, and coming".
So fascinated was she by her enormous poo that she couldn't bring herself to flush it, but picked it out of the toilet, put it in a waterproof shopping bag, and showed her friends, who - she says - told her she must show it to a medical professional, because we'd just be fascinated to see such a large, unusual stool.
And then she opened the bag, and showed me her poo. Which filled it. It filled the entire bag.
TL;DR: Full grown adult woman brought in a big bag of her poo because she thought I'd find it interesting.
KacyRaider ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 06:51:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I guess she was right
wascallywabbite ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:03:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you didn't find it interesting?
puts down bag
Spikito1 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:53:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had plenty of patients in the hospital feel the need to show me every stool, regardless of whether or not it is relevant to their admission
2boredtocare ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:18:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother used to love calling me in to see any unusually sized/colored poo when we were little. He's now a doctor. I'm not sure what this means.
-14k- ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 10:42:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The irony being that you posted this story here, because you thought reddit would find it interesting.
FluffySharkBird ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:50:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a poo once that was like a foot long. I looked at it for a bit before I flushed it
mama_cool ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:41:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you submit her findings to the Lancet?
oberynMelonLord ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:05:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was her name Randy Marsh?
Boratkan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bono
DerNachtHuhner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:33:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/mildly interesting
bubblegrubs ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 14:51:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't help but feel that if I, a 29 yo man did this you would not be as understanding and Ill be honest, im feeling slightly triggered here. I want to show people my big poo's :(
EIDT: jk ffs
throwawaygpdoctor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me laugh outloud personally, sorry you're getting downvotes
bubblegrubs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:41:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. Looks like sense of humour has prevailed in the end. I think a lot of people can't hear the word triggered without getting, well, triggered.
It's like Trump and Brexit, people are grumpy and have a stick up their ass so if you remind them of it they down-vote you.
Or y'know, they just don't like toilet humour... weirdo's.
Morrigan_Cross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ewwwwwwwwwwww...... LMAO!!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
something wrong with her in the head to think that's normal
ellejaypea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are we talking normal carrier bag or bag for life?
throwawaygpdoctor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:07:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Normal carrier bag, full almost to the brim
ubiquitoussquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My little bro did this once on a family vacation. He was so proud, he escorted the rest of us into the bathroom to show it off before flushing his accomplishment down the toilet. Though my brother was probably 8, the woman from your story definitely had more to brag about. Thank you for reminding me of that silly memory.
Cochupo ยท 790 points ยท Posted at 01:27:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMFG, finally something I can comment on. Well, here in Mรฉxico we have something called social service (Our college education is free in some institutions, so we have to pay for it with one year of free work in a rural area).
So the first month a woman in her 30s came to consult because she was feeling weird in the mornings since forever. I asked what her symptoms were and she told me that every day she wakes up feeling her mouth dry, and that feeling disappears in about one or two hours. "well lady, how many water do you drink?" "Hmm, one or maybe two glasses, one at breakfast, and one middleday"
"Do you know what thirst is?" "Yeah, when you drink water so you can piss"
So I had a conversation that took one hour long about what thirst is and how it feels, also I had to told her that she needed to drink more water.
kinkakinka ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 01:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't now what blows my mind more, the idea that someone can't determine that they're thirsty, or that someone can make it through a day on only 2 glasses of water.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:03:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun bit of information for you: if you're on the autism spectrum hunger and thirst can be anywhere from similar to nearly indistinguishable.
OutcastNine ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:25:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? This could explain so much... For the majority of my life, I honestly can't/couldn't express if I was hungry or thirsty. I still can't. I'll think I'm hungry and then after half a bottle of water or a can of soda I'm not 'hungry' anymore. Only at that point do I think maybe I was just thirsty after all.
How would I find out? For reference, I'm 27 years old. I have always had sensory issues for as long as I can remember; whether it is the feel of clothing or bedding, or the texture of food, I've had difficulty being comfortable because of all these problems.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta get tested for autism at your nearest mental health facility. Fair warning though, depending on where you live it might be a bit of a fight to get looked at because of your age. I'm in Canada and it took me forever to get looked at because I was being tested at 14.
Older people usually adjust for their odder habits, I'm still not entirely sold on being autistic because I grew up on a farm and didn't have a friend until high school.
Important thing though, if you do get assessed don't try to act normal or polite, my assessment was difficult because I had been taught basic manners. Those kinds of things will make it more difficult to get a real read, don't be a dick on purpose though.
If you tell them that sensory issues are what tipped you off it should make it easier. I don't have much for sensory issues, except I can't stand wool or even moderately tight clothing (the light sensitivity is because I drew all the short sticks with my eyes) but I know the "padded room" autists had a hundred sensory issues.
PM me if something comes out of this. And I got a little better at differentiating the two sensations through sports, thirst always came up first so it helped. When in doubt I reach for the water though, I leak like a sieve sometimes because of that though but it beats gaining more fucking weight.
OutcastNine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:21:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I totally will! I'm in the US, with pretty decent insurance, so I hope I won't have too many problems getting tested. Although not being normal/polite will be difficult! I've had to correct for what is considered socially normal for so long, I tell my fiancรฉ that I really don't know what my true personality would be like without the 'correction.'
I'll definitely let you know if something comes up! Thanks ๐
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, it's hard to drop those "corrections." I turned into a massive twat for a while when I did. I realized I was doing half the stuff I did because I was "supposed to" and didn't know why, so I stopped . Helped me figure out who I was and what was an act, made me pretty unpleasant though.
DaddiesLttlePrincess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:22:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, this is interesting. I don't think I'm autistic but I HAVE been diagnosed with several mental illnesses that have overlapping symptoms with autism and I didn't understand thirst until I was in my twenties. When I became more health conscious, I started trying to chug a large bottle of water several times a day but it was so hard most of the time I would end up swallowing air bubbles; it was like my body had forgotten how swallowing worked and it gave me terrible tummy aches. I got so dehydrated one time that I needed several liters of IV fluid, though I never felt thirsty throughout the whole thing, only nauseous and shaky. And I've always had a hard time telling when I'm hungry. I've always attributed that to being an emotional eater. I overeat when I'm anxious but otherwise I don't know I'm hungry until suddenly I start to feel queasy because my blood sugar has dropped and I realize I haven't eaten all day. I never drank water growing up. I would drink maybe two glasses of Kool-aid a day and that was it but it didn't seem to negatively impact me until recently. Interesting to hear from people who have a similar story.
dirthawker0 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 07:53:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For most of my life I've been unable to tell when I'm thirsty. My throat rarely feels dry; sometimes it feels sticky but it's easy to ignore. If I'm concentrating intensively like coding or playing an immersive game, even more so. I was chronically dehydrated and completely unaware of it until I started realizing that lack of water was the cause of a number of physical problems. So for the past 10, 12 years I have a large carafe or, these days, a 1.5l nalgene bottle on my desk where I cannot miss seeing it. I try to make sure I drink it all each day, and refill whenever empty. Edit: a word
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:06:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you on the spectrum? I used to be the same way until I got diagnosed and found out that hunger and thirst were supposed to feel different. I found out a lot of people on it very different sensory feedback on hunger/thirst
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:47:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with me, and I'm on the spectrum also.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn;t know this thank you. Explains a lot
dirthawker0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not on the spectrum for sure. Above average smart and maybe a little antisocial but that's about it.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're over 20 and high functioning that's what it usually looks like. might want to get that checked out.
dirthawker0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Granted, this was once suggested to me by a high functioning autism person. (Sorry, I don't know if 'autism' is considered an unacceptable term these days.) We were having a discussion about not being able to hear who you're talking with in noisy restaurants and whether that was due to attention, or a physical thing. I said "attention," and this suggested to him I might be high functioning.
But TBH I don't feel like it's something I need to know. I've lived 50 years not knowing and don't think knowing will change my life.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've found it can run in the family, it might not do much more for you but I kinda consider it like other hereditary conditions - you want it on the list if its there
CatnipCollective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the light spectrum? I'm in the fiant orange-beige area.
dirthawker0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have tiny hands?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:50:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with me. I like the Nalgene idea but (like the commenter below pointed out) I'm on the autism spectrum and one thing is I have a big preoccupation with standing water. Like you know when it sits for a while and it starts getting the little bubbles? lol. Freaks me out. I do not drink bubble water. Also, reusing plastic, especially the bottles with narrow mouths that are difficult to clean, freaks me THE HELL out. I have a thing about bacteria and germs and plastic. :c
But you have given me an idea to perhaps buy a large glass jar....! :)
kinkakinka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:07:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glass or stainless. I use a Klean Kanteen, and throw it in the dishwasher periodically.
dirthawker0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stainless. You can sterilize it if you want and it's opaque.
94358132568746582 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing that is so crazy is that she has a normal feeling of thirst, she just had no idea what it meant. I can't believe she never was able to connect feeling thirsty and drinking water relieving that feeling. If you don't feel thirst much, that is a different thing.
dirthawker0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I also missed making the connection. It's just that I had to be extremely thirsty in order to notice it. Now I am a little more attentive to the signals, but it still takes a conscious effort.
Iamnotwitty12 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:47:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Americans get by on less. I can't tell you how many people I know who think it's weird that I only drink water. They hate the taste of water, all they drink is coffee or soda
Wile-E-Coyote ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be that way until I went into the military. Ever since then it can be a battle finishing a can of soda. Even sweet tea/lemonade I just give up part way through because I'm satisfied with the drink I had. It drives my room mate crazy that I only buy the 16 oz bottles of soda/tea when I do buy it and that there are always at least 1-2 open bottles of different types in the fridge. He thinks that since I go through 4-5 of my 32oz container worth of water a day I'm just being wasteful.
snoharm ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That clutter would annoy me too. Why don't you just buy normal sized bottles and use a glass to portion as needed?
Wile-E-Coyote ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I usually drink about 1/2 of them before the sugar gets to be too much for me. I only have 2-3 bottles 1/2 at the time and the rest are in drawers. I just can't do more really, most drinks in the US are way too sugary and just turn me off about 1/2 through.
snoharm ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:31:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why do you have three separate bottles of sugary drinks in there at the same time? Honestly seems a little inconsiderate.
I don't like incredibly sweet drinks, either, so I don't drink them much. Easy solution.
Wile-E-Coyote ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it's not 3 of the same kind, I buy bottles of mostly non carbonated ones and leave them till I get them the next day or day after. I figure it's better to keep a couple sugary drinks around than a few pints if ice cream when I have a sweet tooth.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
buy the mini cans! THEY'RE SO CUTE.
orkdoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how a sugary drink like soda or tea is better than ice cream.
scotlandhard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:31 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you compare one can of a soda to an entire pint of ice cream, which is how I eat it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:44:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad banned me from opening cans of soda at his house, because every time I leave there's still 3/4 can left. I like the taste for a few sips, but a whole can?? That's HUGE! Especially when I think that it's just sugar syrup mixed with fizzy water and acid. MMM APPETIZING. lol.
Wile-E-Coyote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I get bottles, no yelling because I cam reseal them lol.
kinkakinka ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:27:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink, no lie, at least 100 oz of water a day.
Iamnotwitty12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:10:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too!
mordorimzrobimy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I drink at least 170
Plague_of_crocus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you also pee a lot? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus
kinkakinka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely don't have diabetes (I've checked on multiple occassions).
Plague_of_crocus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not blood sugar related diabetes, although they have a common name, diabetes mellitus and diabetes insipidus are two entirely separate conditions with unrelated mechanisms.
Just a little known condition that people can go their whole lives not recognising. I thought you may be interested as your water consumption is consistently above average. If not, carry on!
kinkakinka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it says really dilute urine all the time. That definitely isn't me!
Jatrap ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:47:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear a lot that the reason they don't like to drink water is because it is tasteless.
screamingfalcon ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:15:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
honestly, I think out of all drinks, water tastes the best. It's refreshing-tasting, Imo.
JustVan ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend like this... And it just baffles me, because water is just so nice. I mean, I like a good flavorful drink sometimes too, but most of the time I just want water.
alittlegnome ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:39:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, to be fair, some people don't drink water because it actually tastes nasty. Where I grew up, we had great city water, and I drank water all the time. Where I live now, it's gross to get through a glass of straight tap water, and even filtered water has a lingering stale taste.
mrchaotica ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coffee and soda are just water with stuff dissolved in them, so they still count in terms of staving off dehydration.
Iamnotwitty12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so wrong. They both dehydrate you....
boom149 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird as hell. I'm American and the only time I drink soda is when I get a combo meal at a fast food place. At home or at a nicer restaurant, water is cheaper and therefore the objectively better option.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:38:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:43:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In every state? Huh.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:12:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not at all. Tap water in the Pacific Northwest is like suckling from the teat of mother nature herself
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:17:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn straight! Happen to live there myself. Was just amazed that someone had tasted water in every city in all 50 states. Maybe Puerto Rico too. Never know. /s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
^ this is the truth
mrsexy115 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in good ole crackima!
Dubbleedge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oregonian. Can confirm.
DickYeast ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:07:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in California. Before the drought, it tasted like the ass-crack of the swamp man. During the drought, it now tastes like the ass-crack of the swamp man except he's severely dehydrated from uncontrollable liquid shits.
CrossBreedP ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:15:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin lives somewhere in California. I have no clue where. Maybe she is your next door neighbor maybe she lives 200 miles from you. My point is, her house has hard water. It tastes bad and after showering you never feel fully clean. I couldn't live a life like that. I just couldn't.
DickYeast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:32:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it majorly sucks
wanna know something cool/terrifying? In my town, tap water runs white. If you let it sit for a while it'll turn clear though. Idk why it's white.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:37:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's aerated - very tiny bubbles in the water that make it appear white. It's completely harmless and still just water.
DickYeast ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:39:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thank fuck then bc I was lowkey concerned about the milk-water
CrossBreedP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A quick way to check your milk-water to see if it is actually bubbles or if it is something more... sinister
sparta2020 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: thank fuck
sortaindignantdragon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's incredibly dependent on where in America you are. I can drive 15 minutes and the tap water will taste completely different. Depends on where it's coming from and what the country is treating it with.
cornicat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok yeah, that makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised if it went so far as different water treatment regulations in each state. I wouldn't know about the bottled water brands though - except for Evian which is crap worldwide and 7/11 brand which tastes really good.
Morpheusthequiet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone on two bottles of water comfortably sometimes. I'm also 120 pounds though, so I don't need much to begin with.
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American here, who loves tap water. I've NEVER understood this... water has no taste; what is there not to like? Am I just lucky to have grown up in a city with proper/balanced water and treatment??
bakawolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on where you are. I grew up drinking well-water and that stuff was great. Moved to a city? the stuff tastes horrible and was basically undrinkable.
So the first thing I did was buy a a filter-pitcher.
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always drank city water. I have been places where ya just don't do that, because you can smell the sulfur or chlorine as it comes out of the tap. I know our city water is chlorinated where I live now, but you can't taste or smell it.
Lacia10aggie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm American and I have a 40 oz. bottle that I refill 5-6 times a day. And that's all I drink except for a cup of hot tea now and then. Soooo.... who's wrong?
2legittoquit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can barely comprehend that there is an animal that has reached point in its evolution where some individuals think water tastes bad.
weekend_please ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:49 on February 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am the same way. Good thing my husband caught on the water drinking instead of always drinking soda. It's healthier.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:42:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hardly drink water ever. I'll drink tea, coffee. Sometimes that's the only liquids I drink in a day. I downloaded an app to remind me to drink water. I cannot believe 1. how often it wants me to slug water and 2. how much water it wants me to drink in a day.
I pee SO MUCH if I get anywhere near its recommended dosage. It sucks. I hate drinking water.
*Yes I know this is stupid. But it's the truth. I'm healthy in every other aspect of what I eat (no red meat, fried foods, fast food about 1x a month, lots of fruit and veg. I almost never drink soda or anything with added sugar.). Water just bores and inconveniences me.
againstbetterjudgmnt ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Research has shown that many of those "drink x of water a day" are not necessary and that your body is usually pretty good at letting you know when to drink. You may be unnecessarily subjecting yourself to water torture.
ShadowSlayer74 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been years since I read it but supposedly if you pee less than like 6-8 times a day you're dehydrated.
Can't really say if it's true, but it is interesting.
kinkakinka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:59:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pee constantly too, which I guess is obvious with the amount of water I drink. But now I'm pregnant, so it's even worse!
apcSouza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, until I was 24 and had a kidney issue which brought me to hospital I do not recall myself drinking water. I remember thinking: "it's been probably 4 days since my last glass of water". I was never thought from my parents the culture of drinking water, if there is such a thing. But even how important it is. How I made until 24 without problems? hard to say, I dont take a lot of salt or sugar in my diet, rarely drink soda (once every 3 or 4 months). Eat loads of fruits and vegetables, where my body probably got the liquid.
Ever since my scared hospital situation, I have been drinking a lot, there is not a day that I dont drink. I have pints of water everywhere I go in my house and some days I drink up to 5L.
c_girl_108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:47 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only drink 1 oz of water a day and that's bc the nurses at my dispensary have to put it in my methadone to turn it from syrup to liquid otherwise I wouldn't drink any. So unhealthy but I hate water.
JoseElEntrenador ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:34 on February 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was this woman for most of high school.
The only reason I ever realized I was dehydrated was I read that your pee should be clear~ish and mine was dark dark yellow.
Helpful-happy-hat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm bad like this. But in my case, I don't like the feeling of drinking sometimes. Any liquid. It's just...uncomfortable. And if I drink too fast it feels all weird going down. And then it feels like someone punched me in the stomach, or I have a big rock in there. It's just...uncomfortable. But I've recently discovered that's just my reaction to cold water...lukewarm water is still unpleasant, but it's easier to manage.
RyanTheCynic ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:23:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I can understand stuff like not understanding sex related things or something, but something as basic as thirst is shocking
Kriegrr ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I was far less thirsty before I started drinking more water regularly...it's like it gets suppressed if you're chronically dehydrated.
SquidCap ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:10:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off-topic but that system of free education sounds really good and pragmatic solution. Having something like this, youth spending a year in the country and then going to school is just marvelous idea. I'm from Finland so we don't need to do anything but we do have conscription (but that is not the same as it is only mandatory service for males, i'm quite serious that the good part in your system is the mixing of females and males coming from different areas is good boost for economy...) that basically forces people to move out from home, get a taste of different lifestyle that does NOT revolve around your wants and needs. I would like to give everyone a year off and spend that time travelling the earth but that is utopia.. I spent my time of service taking care and living with handicapped kids in the countryside (in a large commune, 80 adults, 120 kids), amazing and very difficult experience that reshaped my life.
Cochupo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it is indeed a really nice system in theory. Unfortunately the situation in my country is really bad. I did my internship far away from my home and that was one of the best/worst things in my life, from one hand, I learned a LOT, and from the other hand, no one takes care for you. This year, a lot of my friends who are doing their social service had to be relocated one or many times because the people threatened to kill them or injure them (last year 10 students were killed doing their social services) . This is even worse for the women, a lot of rapes in medical students doing their social service is happening all across the country. I'm fortunate to have a nice economic situation and my family is very supportive, other people had to abandon the career or do other things (like investigation or office work instead of clinical work).
Raging_Dragon_99 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:22:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife's friend doesn't feel thirst, and had to be told to drink a cup of water ever two hours, yes, every two, and yes, every day.
she was having multiple health complications from long term dehydration.
Also discovered that this friend doesn't like the sensation of drinking things.
People are weird.
OctaneAddicted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is probably the best comment yet lmao
prettyslowtocatchon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i don't even
Pleaseluggage ยท 1802 points ยท Posted at 00:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister (who is a new redditor and hope sees this) is a doctor and 25 years ago when she had her very very first patient out of residency and this patient refused to allow her to see her breasts (which were sore and needed a mammogram to check out a lump). So sister asks why and this girl who is about 30 and single said matter of factly "oh. That's lesbian. We can't do that. It's against the lord's wishes." She loves telling this story at the dinner table on family gatherings. Especially to our religious side.
Leohond15 ยท 501 points ยท Posted at 02:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then why didn't she ask for a male doctor? Oh right because that's sinful too. I guess God just wants you to have breast cancer
Pleaseluggage ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 02:36:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way I imagined it really went down is that the woman didn't know why my sister had to physically check the lump. She just thought "I'm gonna get a mammogram" and no need to get all feely.
This was in rural pennsylvania.
BflatPenguin ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 03:39:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Resident of rural Pennsylvania here; story checks out
xxnekochan666xx ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 07:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also in rural Pennsylvania, this would definitely happen
Cpt_Tripps ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:01:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay you need to put this blindfold on to protect your eyes for when I wheel in the mammogram machine. Very harmfull to the eyes these mammogram machines.
I would either be the best doctor or the worst doctor....
[deleted] ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 03:12:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sad many who actually believe that...
Leohond15 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:12:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, evolution does often take care of the idiots.
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, most of them are still able to reproduce and pass on their genes...
Innerouterself ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 06:53:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also reproduce like rabbits. For a bunch of sexually confused folks, they sure make a lot of babies.
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ya love natural instincts?
shannibearstar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:06:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Be fruitful and multiply"
Masuchievo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:25:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man someone should make a movie out of this called: Democriots
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:35:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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1_1_5_8_1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:19:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Often times, more than a few.
PM-Your-Tiny-Tits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really
letsgoiowa ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then they have a really uneducated, extremely misguided view of Christianity.
HetfieldBiersack ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't most sects of Christianity believe that everything is "God's will" or part of some kind of big "plan"?
letsgoiowa ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 04:11:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No.
Don't worry, you're not dumb. You're just misinformed. To simplify, if God is good, he does not do bad things, correct? Remember Eden? Because humanity disobeyed and rejected God, we live in a fallen, imperfect Earth.
So, it follows that this is clearly not heaven. We are, then, separated from God because of the events in the garden.
Continuing, if God is good and this world has fallen, then it's sort of a battleground, correct? Obviously extremely simplifying it, but that's the gist. God does not do evil, so it's something of our own creation--or some would say Satan.
StGerGer ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, most - not all - Christian sects (or at least Christians) say that everything happens as a part of God's plan. And to be fair, from a Christian perspective it might make sense, since God knows everything and knows what will happen in the future and is capable of changing the future since he is omnipotent, so clearly everything must be part of his plan.
That's just what I learned as a Christian though. It's definitely different in other branches
[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 05:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christian here: It's strange. My view is that God has the power to stop bad things from happening but allows them to happen for an ultimate result that could be hundreds or thousands of years down the line. But we as humans are his tools and since he gave us intelligence, WE NEED TO USE IT FOR FUCKS SAKE. He wants us to get stuff checked and deal with problems USING OUR HEADS and have the faith that he will AID us through crisis. Keyword: AID.
tangent: I have no idea where the whole "inappropriate language is a sin" teaching came from. I've never run into it in the Bible and i'm almost positive it's a weird extrapolation from Jesus' Sermon on the Mount where he taught not to use the Lord's name in vain but I have no idea where that leap of logic came from.
noms_on_pizza ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:15:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could not agree more. We were given the ability to reason and to learn! I say this all the time. God has more important shit to do than to cure you of your headache. Just take a fucking Tylenol!
rustinisrad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:16:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Preface: no judgement, just an answer to your question.
Pretty sure it's from one possible interpretation of Eph 5:4. But linguistically, it's talking more about making jokes about sexual matters, not bad language. In some of his letters, Paul actually uses expletives to drive his point home. I think a decent argument would be that using bad language isn't necessarily the most flattering or wise choice (i.e pay attention to who you are doing it in front of, or in what context). But I also don't think it's necessarily "wrong".
If we're gonna go very far down the bib interp road, another argument could be made that doing anything in front of someone who would be offended is wrong as is described in Romans 14:13-15. But I understand if you got off this particular train before getting this far. I just happened to be revisiting the interpretation papers I wrote in grad school recently and it was on my mind haha.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:45:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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rustinisrad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes this. Linguistically, not really about "swear words". More about specific kinds of sexual jokes.
letsgoiowa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:41:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fully agree, and I think I can answer the second bit.
When you swear, it is usually just an adjective, adverb, whatever. When you're cursing something or someone--wishing horrible things on them--I think you can probably see why people discouraged that and got overeager with the extent of enforcement.
TL;DR: not healthy to hold hate in your heart. Context fucking matters :P
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see, that makes some sense. Thank you.
Andy0132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed - God gave us minds that we may use them. Otherwise, why would we have them to begin with? We need to use our own heads, and fix our own shit.
nemo_sum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calvinism in particular holds with predestination: that the course for everything is set, and we're living through a movie that's already been storyboarded, to use a rough analogy. A lot of Evangelical Protestant Churches are in the Calvinistic tradition, and they also (see the name) tend to be very outspoken. But more liturgical Christian sects, such as Lutheranism, Anglicanism, Catholicism, Methodism, and Presbyterianism have more nuanced views on theodicy (the question at hand, why evil is tolerated by a loving God).
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easily one of the biggest problems with Christianity, I feel like we would have a much better understanding of the Bible and God if we realized that the Bible wasn't written by God or divinely inspired by him. Also we have to take into account historical context and language.
I think the most important thing about this though is that when we look at verses like this we have to compare and contrast it to what Jesus himself said. "Love your neighbour as yourself" and "Turn the other cheek" are two statements that Jesus made that contradict so much of the stuff found in the OT. No wonder the Jews wanted to kill him.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find it funny that you've only been to churches where they don't teach about exegesis. I've only been to a few churches in my life, most of them on the conservative Protestant side. Even the conservative ones had some form of exegesis, although it didn't go to deep, one very "liberal" theologian I met was definitely against the idea of the Bible being divinely inspired. Said it was a crock of shit to believe that, he still treated the Bible as sacred, but he didn't believe it was divinely inspired.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt you would find anything enlightening at a megachurch lol... and wtf is "wealth ministry"? Is that some modern equivalent of the Protestant work ethic?
I've actually considered switching to a more traditional church for some of these reasons, although I don't really agree with all the things they may preach (such as the Catholic church) I think there's some strength in tradition that you don't find in the thousands of small, relatively new Protestant denominations.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:27 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Church was basically self resassurance for rich people? Damn that sounds shitty. For the record, I don't think it's impossible for a rich guy to get into heaven, I'm a universalist and I believe errybody gets to go to heaven but I do believe being rich can have its own difficulties when you're trying to emulate the life of Christ. Jesus wasn't just poor he was an outcast of society, something that the members of that church you're talking about were neither of.
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:57 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me right now I'm having trouble reconciling Jesus' nonviolent beliefs with the rest of the religion and real life. The world has just stopped making sense to me. Jesus is this guy who created the earth, came down to save us by showing us there is a better way (nonviolence and love apparently) and then fucking back off to heaven. First of all, (I know it's a tired question) but why create such a world full of evil? And second, how is nonviolence going to help me when I'm in danger or worse yet, my family is? Imagine all the Christian lands were invaded by extremist Muslims and they were committing genocide left and right, raping every woman they find and laying waste to our buildings, our culture, our institutions and every single thing about our world? What the hell would nonviolence do in that situation when your sons are being murdered and your daughters are being raped by strangers?
Then again, as far as I can tell this world has little purpose anyways, if I want a perfect God then I simply can't have a logical world, as if anyone could pretend it's logical to begin with.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:45 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:09:25 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The super liberal (idk what other word to describe him as) theologian I mentioned taught me what he thought was the reason Jesus decided to come and die on earth. Jesus basically wanted to show us the better way of living by living it himself and ultimately die by it. The crucifixion wasn't atonement for our sins, rather it was an example for us. Despite the power Jesus held (coulda called legions of angels to fuck up the Romans) he said "I forgive you". From this starting point, the theologian bases all of his other beliefs on that. In his viewpoint everyone goes to Heaven because God forgives all of us, God's nonviolence becomes central to pretty much everything about this guys theology.
Therefore, God doesn't really need to test us, he doesn't need to make our lives hard for the sake of who gets to go to heaven for two reasons. The first reason is that we're already going to heaven. The second is that God wouldn't purposely harm anyone because he's nonviolent.
What you said about Jesus preaching meekness so as to avoid persecution by the Romans is interesting. I've never really thought of him as shrewd like that. It's extra difficult when there's really no way to be certain. Sometimes I feel like it would have been easier to have been one of Jesus disciples despite the persecution because at least you would have seen the miracles and have been sure he was legit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:51 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:45 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been to Alliance churches my whole life (save for my few experiences with the theologian I mentioned) and the word theology was hardly mentioned. I went to a Christian school that was partially funded by the Alliance church the school was attached to kindergarten through grade 12. Pretty standard Protestant evangelical stuff such as quoting Bible verses and interpreting them however you want to, bad worship songs and bad worship bands.
What stood out to me in my religious life much more were the Bible camps I attended as a kid. There were two chapels a day, one in the morning and one at night. Occasionally the night chapel was held outodoors by a bonfire with amphitheatre like seating (reading about the Nuremberg rallies reminded me of this lol) and the pastor/speaker was this very energetic and emotional guy. He only preached doom and gloom, said we were all destined for hell. Said it wasn't enough to just accept Christ into your heart and have faith, because faith without deeds was dead. So here was this young guy who was able to relate to all the young campers because he was a cool dude, jumping around yelling and almost crying about how we were all going to hell because even the love of God wasn't enough to get us in. It kept me questioning for a long long time whether or not my faith was "alive" because I had no idea if my "deeds" were enough.
Then I learned all about that stuff that theologian told me. I'm still split as to what I should believe.
Cryzgnik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:28:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if he is omnibenevolent and omnipotent, then, why did he allow the events to happen in the garden of eden? How is there conflict? Clearly the christian god can't be omnipotent and omnibenevolent if there's conflict between him and satan.
sufferingcubsfan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super simplified, and spot on.
Do most Christians believe that God has a plan? Of course. Does it extend to what you're going to cook for dinner, or whether or not you should seek valid medical treatment? Of course not.
It's like the old joke:
A great flood comes, and a devout man climbs on to the roof of his house. He prays fervently to God to rescue him.
Along comes a man in a rowboat, who offers the believer a ride, but the believer declines, citing his faith on God. The rain continues, and the flood continues to rise.
Then comes a man in a fishing boat, who offers to save the believer. The water is higher now, nearly covering the roof of the house, but again the believer declines, assured that God will save him.
The water continues to rise, leaving only the very crest of the roof above the surface. The man prays with all of his might, and a helicopter appears overhead. They throw down a rope ladder, but the man refuses to board. Soon after, the water rises too high, and he is swept away and drowns.
When judgment comes, the man is quite perturbed. "Lord," he cries, "I prayed to you to deliver me from the flood, and I truly believed that you would. Was my faith not string enough? Why did you forsake me?"
God shakes his head. "My son," he speaks solemnly, "I sent you two boats and a helicopter. What else would you have me do?"
Przedrzag ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of Isaiah 45:7
letsgoiowa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on translation, context, and remembering OT God was quite the fan of punishment. Post Jesus, not so much.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people mellow out after busting a nut, no big revelation there.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of letting that idea "open up the notion" that prior to Christ God wasn't all good, perhaps it's an indication that the Bible isn't "correct" all the time. Not saying either of us are right or wrong but whenever I see someone quote a verse from the OT I think theres a 90% chance they have no clue what they're talking about.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is open to interpretation, but the more information you have the better your interpretation will be. Also you need a backbone to fall back on in your ideology. For me, this is what Jesus says himself specfically, such as "Love your neighbor as yourself". If I find someone teaching something that doesn't fall in line with that, I tend to disagree with them.
YodelingTortoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just out of curiosity, how would quoting the actual book, just as its done in sermons throughout all Christian denominations each week, imply that someone doesn't know what they are talking about.
dankvtec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I were to pull a quote out of Mein Kampf, with no context about it's historical significance or who wrote it and only gave half the sentence and then tried to argue that Mein Kampf is about racial tolerance, I would be completely stupid. A lot of sermons I've listened to, pastors tend to quote verses without giving any context as to what it means in the specific book it's written in, let alone the historical context or anything that could give us a clue about what that specific passage is actually trying to say.
trey3rd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:39:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But doesn't god kill shitloads of people in the bible?
HetfieldBiersack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:50:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was not raised Christian and was just under this impression because it's the belief of the prevailing denomination near me. Thank you for the reasonable and informative response.
YodelingTortoise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God committed numerous acts of evil as told by the old testament. Including one small act of destroying all of humanity but one guys family he liked.
murmalerm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isaiah 45: 7 Does say that God creates evil, so there's that
lbspredh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you read the bible, by his own laws God sins a lot and by contemporary standards he's guilty of genocide
letsgoiowa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I have and contemporary standards hardly apply.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is what each of the 400 denominations of Christianity says about the others.
mmmlinux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dont worry. they will get cured by all the likes their facepage gets.
SuperSulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's unfortunate. Funny how people say "it's all part of god's plan" to justify things.
zombiemakemelol ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:39:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relavent
https://i.redd.it/u1i6pck7lj5y.png
Sohcahtoa82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:01:24 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Jesus has a receding hair line.
greffedufois ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're Catholic it's because you're shameful and it's all your fault.
IowaContact ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God can really be an asshole sometimes...or as they like to call it, "work in mysterious ways".
eazolan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:20:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would think so. God didn't invent the mammogram machine.
wings-of-a-valkyrie ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 03:13:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A doctor trying to potentially save your life? Wow gay
Pleaseluggage ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 03:17:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Them actually saving your life??? SUPER gay.
RompingRillo ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 02:21:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey sis!
icer816 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:33:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hey its me ur sister
TerrorGatorRex ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This explains so much! I used to live in the Southern US. During that time I have some medical issues and needed a surgery on my cervix. My female coworkers we're shocked that I went to a female OBGYN, which really confused me.
WifeyP ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a Southerner, born and raised, I have serious trouble believing you.
I've never heard anyone as much as insinuate going to a doctor the same sex as you for gynological care was anything close to gay. In fact, I've had a couple friends ask me about who I go to because she's female and they thought their teenage daughters might be more comfortable with another woman for their first check up and they've heard me mention my gyno and how awesome she is.
Maybe they were just shocked you found a female gyno? In my area, most are male. I had to specifically search for a female one. (Just a personal preference, nothing against male gynos)
If that wasn't the case then I daresay you probably misunderstood them. Not saying there's not someone back-water enough to believe it, just saying it's totally NOT a Southern thing like you seem to be implying.
TerrorGatorRex ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:08:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, I should have clarified more, because in no way did I think this was a "southern" thing. It was just me living in a new part of the country. Also, I mention that these were my coworkers (not friends), but they were very religious. This is why it was also like "aha!" I grew up in the northeast, and honestly, people aren't very religious up here.
Lacia10aggie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:14:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for saying this! I read that comment and thought, holy hell, is this what people generalize and think about the "Southern US"?? Which, in itself, is a pretty ridiculously broad term
WifeyP ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, Reddit loves to shit on the South. Half the time the stuff I read isn't even true, or isn't true anymore and it's painfully obvious that the person that typed it hasn't set foot down here in decades for more than the Christmas holidays or something. I fight that kinda thing when and where I find it.
Edit: Story Time: I got banned from /r/offmychest last year for debating the statement that "the entire South," is still full of racist pricks. And by "debating" I mean I made one comment where I pointed out that not all of us are and that blanket statements like that are never accurate and are really harmful. Then, the moderator whose comment I was replying to (and who made that ridiculous blanket statement) banned me. I messaged him asking why I was banned as I was neither in violation of their rules nor being hateful and I recieved a mute.
I think it's safe to say he was butt hurt that someone stood up to him about it.
dal_segno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:44:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/offmychest is SUPER banny. I'd never even been there, and I'm banned because I'd posted in r/tumblrinaction in the past.
TerrorGatorRex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:51 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, u/WifeyP and u/dal_segno, I had never heard of r/offmychest until this post, and decided to check it out. Anyway, I stumbled across this gem.
I read it, and was kinda shocked because from the OPs story, I inferred that the OP was being really possessive and controlling of their friend. That's why they were being ghosted. They mention how in the last month of the friendship they asked everyday what was wrong, but OPs friend never told OP. If I had a friend asking me everyday what was wrong with our friendship, I would be a little creeped out/feel suffocated. OP says "I'm not in love with you" and even wonders if the ghosting is because of OPs "obsessive" personality. And then all the comments were supportive of OP!
This just creeped me out, and I wanted to share, cause when I read this post and the follow-up comments I felt like I was in an alternate universe.
WifeyP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:40 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think it's just a whole bunch of special snowflake types...
TerrorGatorRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:16 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! I've never heard that expression.
WifeyP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow. Lol I guess it was only a matter of time before it happened then, if they bann people for posts they make on OTHER subs XD
TerrorGatorRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:44 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had never looked at TiA until you posted this. Mind you, I am left leaning and am pro social justice. But looking at this sub made me cringe. And the irony is that this word shit is written by people privileged enough to afford fancy liberal arts schools where they can study some obscure major because mom and dad just wants their brilliant child to follow their heart and not worry about future employment so they set the kid up with a trust fund and all this education does is teach them big academic words that they can string together to make a rather incoherent statement. That's my rant.
dal_segno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:26:49 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree - I lean pretty left socially, but a lot of the things TiA highlights really just make a mockery of any actual social justice movement. You start preaching equality of social/fiscal opportunity and mobility, and 'outsiders' immediately lump you in with the people who insist that they're mayonnaise-gendered transdisabled astral polecats.
It's frustrating - I feel like some or even a lot of them have their hearts in the right place, but they make it hard for people to take anyone more level-headed seriously. A group is judged by its loudest, most extreme members, after all.
TerrorGatorRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:55 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I saw the comment criticizing my generalization of the south, I was like "Doh! I sound like an asshole." So I appreciate u/WifeyP calling me out.
DaddyRocka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jumping in to agree, this is not really a southern thing....
blasto_blastocyst ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
penetration symbolism?
Pleaseluggage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't be serious.
goose_mccrae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious where this was?
Pleaseluggage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Outside of Reading. Don't know more than that.
goose_mccrae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
z3r0f14m3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey its me ur sistur.
Janemba_Corvalis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey it's me your sister
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did your sister drop everything and leave the room?
rosekayleigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...so what do they do when they give birth? Go out in the woods and do it alone?
Pleaseluggage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. Well. I think the issue was my sister actually touching boobies. It was probably deemed unecissary by this genius who thought it could all be taken care of with a mammogram.
Wasn't that an m night shamilan movie? "Crazy woman gives birth in the woods?"
TheComradeVlad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Looks like Darwin was right. Well, in that case, I'd guess you have about 2 years left to live. Have a nice day!"
NotBearhound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Honey, if God really is a man he's fine with lesbians, I assure you."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hey its me ur sister
KisuPL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey it's me ur sister
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 7223 points ยท Posted at 21:41:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a paramedic and recently transported an idiot who self presented to the local hospital, who found he was having a heart attack (stemi) and needed him sent to a bigger hospital for treatment.
During my assessment I asked him how long he'd been having chest pain. On and off for twelve months, he tells me.
Any family history? (One of the biggest indicators). Oh, yes. Dad died of a heart attack. Brother died of a heart attack. Both of them first presentation, stone dead on the spot, no fucking about.
So... you have a 12 month history of intermittent chest pain, and a family history of your closest male relatives spontaneously chucking hearties and dying, and you've never got it investigated. Further more, the only reason you came to the hospital tonight is because your family badgered you into it.
I told him he needed a solid kick in the arse. To his credit, he agreed.
Dexxt ยท 438 points ยท Posted at 23:08:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Loads of people are like this though as they tell themselves it's nothing and get on with their lives in the hope it goes away.
Instead of hypo-chondria you get hyper-chondriacs who despite evidence to the contrary think they're healthy.
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 23:33:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if I've already had my chest pains examined and I've been told they're fine but sometimes I get concerned by the fact that I'm ignoring persistent chest pains.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:54:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get a second opinion. I got my heart checked out because I experience severe nausea and dizziness when I work out, but I didn't get it on that particular day i was checked.
Then I had a heart monitor for a day but I didn't work out with it.
I don't believe them when they say I'm fine. My grandfather had a heart condition and my uncle recently had complications.
blanketswithsmallpox ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:43:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Precordial catch probably. There are horror stories yes, but if you're prone to hypochondria, go with the experts every time. Especially if you had a second opinion already because the moment you doubt your doctor is the moment you go down a rabbit hole you'll never get out of. Society is based on trust. From the bridges we drive over to the painted toys we give to our children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precordial_catch_syndrome
emilizabify ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. I have that.
Holy shit, I have been trying to figure out what it is for years.
blotto5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:39:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I found out about it through reddit a couple years ago too. It's very hard to search for because literally everywhere you go, chest pain = heart attack.
Taedirk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck those things.
rouxdane ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:00:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people have angina, which is chest pains that resolve with rest. Some people live their entire life with these pains. If your cardiologist hasn't done a stress test I would consider asking for one. Not always a definite indicator but it is a great resource. Source: I'm a Clinical Exercise Physiologist in cardiac rehab.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The diagnosis was costochondritis. I'm 30 year old female.
rouxdane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the heck did you do that? Do you do repetitive movements with your upper extremities? Last time I saw costocondritis was in a butcher.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well im a bartender so.. yes?
DragoonDM ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be a case of denial--so afraid that they'll go the same way as Dad and Brother that they convince themselves that it's clearly nothing.
Ryaman ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly enough, that's exactly how you go the same way as your dad and brother.
landsharkgun ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't afford to pay for it, the only option you have left is hope it's nothing.
Apkoha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or you know.. People just don't like going to the doctor and that's not going to change because you decide to give it away. I know many people who just hate going to the doctor even fully covered, myself included.
AVVIT ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only this but... I have been to the hospital and ER more than my fair share of times. Accident prone and a general idiot. But the number of times I have been and been given the o'l "you are wasting our time look" is ridiculous. Had to argue with a DR that I had issues with my heart untill she took my blood pressure and she went pale and admitteded "there might be an issue" another time was for a broken hand. I was asked when the accident happend, "yesterday" DR: oh well if it was really broken you would have already come in, it won't be broken but I guess we will have to x ray you while you here SIGH que shocked dr when my hand is smashed to bits. The reason I don't go to the hospital much for issues with my health is the attitude I get from drs and nurses here in the UK it's all get um in and out as fast as possible and choose the easiest thing to fix quick to get rid of them. The NHS is free but damn it's flawed. If I could afford I would go private everyday of the week !!!
Dexxt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:14:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I agree! The NHS is great in principle but in practice it's a different t matter.
Last Christmas I fell on my arm and genuinely thought I'd dislocated my elbow I was in that much pain. I went to A&E, had an x-ray and got told nothing was wrong and to go home and sleep on it even though I was nearly passing out every time I moved my arm. Went the following morning to a different A&E and an MRI showed I had completely ruptured the ligaments and required surgery. Still waiting on a surgery date 12 months later...
I also find the docs are really condescending when it's a sports injury. Like it's somehow worse that I (nearly) snapped my ankle running but it's OK if someone has a heart attack from spending the last decade sat on the sofa in front of the TV.
Dr-luckystrikesLSMFT ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:43:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Mother is the Queen of self diagnosing. She has a book from 1987-95, somewhere in that range. Has used the internet twice in her life, with my guidance. So basically she's never used the internet. Refuses to believe anything written online, it's "evil," all lies, fake stories. Instead relies on outdated text, and has a new disease, sometimes two a day. I have the disease rotation down pretty good. She also has some sort of knee problem, causing her to walk with an extremely over-done limp. Depending on her mood, it changes. She's terrified of MRI's for absolutely no reason, I've yet to hear why. Has said for the last 7 years she's going to schedule an appointment, but never does. Works 1-2 hours a day, so obviously she doesn't have the time to go in, (according to her.) If she gets a light scratch, she monitors it 24/7, and is convinced she has some sort of flesh eating bacteria. I work with sharp metal, and get nasty cuts all the time, but they'll never compare with her barely noticeable microscopic scratches. The biggest problem is we've gotten so used to this, we really can't gauge just how serious something is, due to the fact she apparently always has something. So if something severe were to happen, we'd take it the same way we take everything else. But, hands down, by far the biggest problem, (my self diagnosis for her,) she no doubt is bi-polar. I love her, and always will, she's my mother. But it's borderline impossible to have a normal day. I feel as if I'm walking on eggshells, all day long. My father wont admit it, but i know he feels the same. A small example, to get a little idea. She has a tea-cup, placed upside down on the counter-top. If any object from the kitchen, (that my father or I,) place within a foot of her cup, ohh boy. Better leave the house for the next 4 hours. She will rant/cry/yell, for hours on end. Bringing up unrelated thing from the past, just to continue yelling. A carton of Milk can be 1 foot away from her cup, but no. To her, a dirty disgusting carton of milk is touching her tea-cup, her day is completely ruined. This is one of the minor examples, one of hundreds. Simply put, her mood swings are insane. People say, have her go to the doctor, get help for it. I just laugh. She refuses to go to the doctor for almost everything. And you know how you just know somebody, in a way nobody else could understand? There is absolutely no way, noooo way, you could ever get my mother to a doctor, to check her mental health. And even if I did, she is completely against any type of pill. Even over-the-counter medicine. Overall, it's a tough situation.
Wow, this is unreal. I'd call this an edit, but it's not a true, "go back and edit." As I was at the tail end of my paragraph, I hear an, "OHH MY GOD, OHHH MYYY GOD," coming from the kitchen. I finished off the last of a half gallon of milk an hour ago, rinsed the carton, and placed it at the end of the counter. (We take recyclables out in the morning, or daylight you could say.) She literally did the exact thing I used as my example, I knew right away what she was yelling about. Somehow, in some miraculous miracle, after my 9th apology, she actually accepted, for the first time in as long as I can remember, and returned to bed. I'm beyond shocked.
clankton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap. This sounds heavy. Are you able to talk to anyone about this? It sounds like you live with her still and that can't be easy.
Dr-luckystrikesLSMFT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the response! Yes, I do live with her. She holds me back a good amount. Not physically obviously, but in her manipultive* (spelled wrong i know haha,) ways. I've talked with friends about it here and there, but it goes nowhere. It causes an extreme amount of stress though, that's for sure. It's sad, I'm so used to it, but it's gotten worse year after year.
vizard0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to say it, but take a look at /r/raisedbynarcissists
Don't know if your mom fits, but she might.
Orangejuicel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird because I am kind of both of these things. I think I might have a lot of different stuff, however I gate going to the doctors so I would never go. I mostly just let things resolve themselves, but if anything was ever really wrong I'd like to think I would suck it up and go.
296milk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone avoids the doctor cause no one wants to foot a $500 bill if they're just going to be given some OTCs.
Dexxt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure that's a big factor for a lot of people. But even in my country where we have universal healthcare in the NHS, people still out off going.
Jonathan924 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Healthcare is also really expensive in America
isfturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:20 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was convinced her chest pains were just anxiety. Luckily her husband made her go to the doctor. She had a pulmonary embolism.
mttdesignz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU HAVE TO HAVE FREE HEALTHCARE FOR FUCKS SAKE You feel strange you go to someone who has studied at least 10 years to get that white robe, fucking hell. You go in there and they do the fuck they want and then you go back home, see ya.
How can you not want this, America?
Dexxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even with free health care some people avoid going. Some people are just mentally not accepting that there could be something wrong with them.
MedicGirl ยท 2296 points ยท Posted at 22:16:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chucking Hearties.
Using that on my next STEMI Tripsheet. :D
Gamestoreguy ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 22:35:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical control Patient presents with a chucked heartie please advise.
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 22:52:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only works in present tense. Pt. presented while chucking a heartie. Looks like a STEMI, put him on the trolley, and we're off to the hossie.
DucksontheHorizon ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 22:56:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if Australian or not?
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 23:02:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too right, cobber.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:41:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck oath cunt
frankyb89 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they shorten words that most people don't shorten and add a y or ie at the end, they're definitely Australian. Super useful life lesson there.
TheZofDeath ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the classic shorten and add -o to the end.
Thepsycoman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:43:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes that makes it longer though tbh. Like Tim isn't good enough, Timmo on the other hand
northirid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Righto.
frankyb89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How could I forget the classic -o!?
Modorox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the slightly more rare -bo, e.g. Tim to Timbo, James to Jimbo.
orange_fudge ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could say 'chucked a heartie' like 'chucked a sickie'. Past tense is ok but the verb has to be an action, not used as an adjective.
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:13:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, you're right. What I was trying to say was it wasn't phrased right the way old mate up there used it.
orange_fudge ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:16:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries :)
HoneybeeGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You cant not read it in an Australian accent.
codemonkey80 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:38:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
requires solid kick in the arse stat
Dark_Pyrohollow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:14:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and two more Q4hrs x10 days DX: idiocy
MedicGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!
billyntheclonasaurus ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:04:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gotta be aussie
tinfins ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 00:32:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just thinking, "This is the most aussie diagnosis ever."
ElCaminoInTheWest ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:52:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It just needed the phrase 'ya fackin drongo' to be 100%.
umatik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"After a night of skulling VB, pt chucked a heartie"
himym101 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the guy not getting treatment sounds so aussie too. old aussie men just like to pretend to be macho and refuse to get help for anything. My grandfather said she'll be right to literally everything until one day my grandmother drove him to the doctor and kicked him out of the car.
billyntheclonasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
very true,I've used superglue to fix so many wounds. unless theres bone theres no need for a doctor.
magpiekeychain ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:34:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chucking a hearty sounds a bit aussie. Better than chucking a wobbly, hoooo boy.
0ceanman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:28:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer the phrase "have a jammer"
ScroteMcGoate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that isn't code for defibrillation, then it needs to be.
bshockme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has been added to my vocabulary. Reddit has learned me well.
yourusagesucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got learned up good
ShelfordPrefect ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:54:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a hearters :/
Harvey_Wall_banger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Australian by any chance?
MedicGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. 'Murican. ;)
2SP00KY4ME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:18:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's a STEMI tripsheet?
MedicGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heart Attacks are known as ST-Elevation Myocardial Infarctions or Non ST-Elevation Myocardial Infarctions or just Myocardial Infarctions. We abbreviate them to STEMI, NonSTEMI, or MI.
We create a Tripsheet which is just documentation of our call: Procedures we did, medication we gave, vital signs, ect.
It's just the EMS version of a chart in a hospital.
2SP00KY4ME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:38:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
MedicGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No problem. :)
WtfMayt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:25:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine this is how pirates used to exclaim they were having a heart attack.
iliketool ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 23:33:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've got to be Aussie
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:43:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, mate.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:27:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"what's the cure doc?"
"a kick in the arse"
"not again"
Dr_Wong ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:07:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck man this feels like me to a tee. Both grandparents died from heart related issues, my dad has already had a heart attack and has 3 stents in, and my aunt also had a heart attack. I get mild chest pain from time to time and it makes me afraid I'm headed down the same path. And I'm also stubborn as fuck when it comes to seeing a doctor.
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:21:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's your health, matey, so you do what you like. No one is going to look after it for you though. I'd say you're better off being proactive now and managing your very legitimate concerns by talking to a doctor and having regular check ups. That way, if a problem does develop you can address it early. You'll also have a good history showing the trend of your health which will be of great benefit for your health care providers to give you the appropriate treatment.
But no one is going to make you do it. You decide if your ongoing health and wellbeing is worth the hassle of going to the doctor.
Quis_Custodiet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:32:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See your doctor - hopefully they'll refer you to a cardiologist if they think it sounds like cardiac pain. A heart attack is effectively a blockage of one of the arteries in your heart. The muscle doesn't get blood, so you get the pain and the muscle starts to die.
Based on your family history, it could be that you're having what's called angina. This is where one of the arteries is partially blocked, so sometimes, especially during exercise, you can have the pain because that area of muscle isn't getting enough blood and is struggling a bit.
Often, if a cardiologist finds that you've got a partial blockage then they can do things to stop it becoming a full blown heart attack. That could be stents, or more substantial surgery, but it means you get the benefit of the treatment without the muscle damage (and risk of death) of a full heart attack.
If you have the pain for more than 20mins at rest, or it's very severe, and/or you feel breathless with it, call an ambulance. If you don't want to, do not drive yourself, but go to the ED.
It's seriously better to address these things early, and hey, best case scenario is that there's nothing wrong and you have peace of mind.
Randomnerd29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
misleading username
tibtibs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please just go see a cardiologist. Caths are pretty routine and easy when you're having intermittent chest pain, not so easy when you have a chronic obstruction or are in the middle of a heart attack.
UserColonAl ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:42:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aussie spotted!
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:47:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not managing your heart condition is a bootable offence.
FergusD92 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:04:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This kills me because I'm a medical student who has an exam tomorrow that covers something called 'zola's triggers' that describes almost exactly this - things like severity and duration of symptoms don't make people go to the doctors, but 'zola's triggers' do - one of which is being pressured by family!
EsQuiteMexican ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this in any way related to the Winter Soldier?
BananaPanquakes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:53:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Longing. Rusted. Seventeen. Daybreak. Furnace. Nine. Benign. Homecoming. One. Freight car.
VaneWimsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks -- I Googled "Zola's triggers," and it was very informative. From my experience, I'm not at all confident that most GP's keep them in mind.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FergusD92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:21 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, yes! Reddit is a small place it seems...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:09 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FergusD92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:37 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear God I was...
Capgunkilla ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:38:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a cardiac cath lab that performs interventions on stemi's. This occurs way too often. It really makes your day when you start the procedure by coding the patient on the table because they decided to finish out their workday rather than immediately come to the hospital.
tibtibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree. Or being called in on there weekend for an nstemi where the prox circ is shut down and after the procedure the patient asks "on a scale of 1-10 how bad was this?" "Well sir, if you hadn't have come in when you did, you most definitely would have been in here in a couple hours ruining our day by possibly dying on the table."
drdenjef ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:37:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well i had panic attacks as a child...quite frequently. It got better as i grew older but i didn't know what it was back then. Apparently my das hade a few when he was young and so did my grandpa. Anyways i had them much more, and when i came out of bed and complained about it i got yelled at to go back to bed or else they would bind me to the bed (pretty sure he didn't mean that part). So now i have the tendency that everytime i feel pain somewhere or something feels wrong, to just shut up and hope it goes away.
Saccharomycetaceae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I had very similar experience growing up. Being told I couldn't have a panic attack until after I finished my homework... because I was curled up on the floor in the basement for fun.
About 2 years ago, I started having chest pain and trouble breathing. Heart problems, high blood pressure on both sides of family. My uncle had a heart attack at the start of the year (drove himself to the hospital, thought he was getting better and almost drove back home), even. This pain went on for a few days for me, difficulty breathing getting worse when lying down by the end of it, before finding a doctor and scheduling an appointment (idiot, I know).
Turned out I was the healthiest I had ever been, on any test they ran. Best explanation they could give is that panic attacks were giving me heart attack symptoms. They couldn't do anything to help. Such a relief (except very much not).
I definitely hope those heart issues skipped a generation, because there's no chance I won't just think the pain is imagined and ignore it.
drdenjef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ow damn...feelsbadman :/ weirdly enough, i also often have chest pain en pain when i breath, or my heart skips a beat and stuff... But i don't know of any hearth problems in my family, so i hope i am having the same as you. Anyways, i wish you all the best.
BackLabourPains ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, man. Can you read that outloud to me? As Jeremy Irons?
Noah-R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get how people with a history of heart disease always happen to be the same people with the stick-it-out-and-don't-bother-anyone-else-with-your-pain attitude. Natural selection just doesn't explain it...
FGHIK ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:49:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the majority of human history, it really didn't matter. Even if they somehow knew it was an issue, there wasn't shit you could do about it.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:50:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also helps that heart conditions usually start waaay after optimal breeding age.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:41:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Self presented, attend the hospital themselves rather than being brought in by ambulance.
First presentation of any illness is the first time it becomes symptomatic. In this case, the first time his father and brother had chest pain it was a heart attack serious enough to kill them quickly. They had no opportunity to have it investigated and receive treatment. This guy's first presentation of chest pain was 12 months ago and he did nothing about it. I suspect, based on his description of it, that he was having angina, which is a bit of a warning sign and so because of his family history he's lucky he didn't just drop dead like the others.
MuddyWaterTeamster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa had chest pain for 3 days before finally going to the hospital (and subsequently dying). His dad had died in a hospital so I'm told he was basically associating a hospital with the place you go to die. I also think that he thought if he was dying, he wanted it to be in his own bed.
Black_Lannister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So he was correct?
dbelow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad had a heart attack 16 years ago while trying to ski with all of his brothers. All the signs, loss of strength, going pale, chest pains etc. He just goes and sits on the shore for the res of the day and we go out to red lobster(now known in our family as dead lobster) for dinner and he was feeling sick to his stomach afterwards.
The next morning we were all worried when my dad ask my mom to drive his brand new truck all the way back to Ohio from Louisiana. He went back to work where he had another minor heart attack we think, and two weeks later my mom badgered him in to going to see the doctor. For reference my dad doesn't smoke,rarely drinks, eats healthy, and had no fat on his body. The docs and nurses were joking with him thinking it was just a minor blockage. I forget the name of the test that determines the blockages in his arteries, but when the Indian doc came out, my mom said he was paler than she was. My dad had 4 blockages that ranged from 80-95% and the worse one was in the left-main known as the widow maker. He recovered fine and my mom still jokes that the only reason he is still alive is because he is dumb to have died.
Slacker5001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my grandfather had a stroke it took my grandma, one of daughters, and my dad to finally convince him to go to the hospital. He was slurring words and everything and didn't want to go. My dad had to threaten to call an ambulance and have the paramedics take him by force before he finally let my dad drive him there.
He lived many years after that stroke and thankfully suffered little damage. But old people can be so stubborn sometimes.
zephyer19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My crew was called to a clinic for man with chest pain, it was my barber, I knew he smoked. In asking, what meds are you on? None, Nothing?, nope. Ever have a heart attack? no. Five minutes later, Ever have chest pains before? Yes. When? When I had my heart attack. You said you never had one, when did you have it. A few years back. Do you have high blood pressure? Yes. Take anything for it? Yes, some BP medicine.
Few days later ran into him coming out of a pharmacy, where he was getting Viagra.
giant_red_lizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if you don't have medical insurance, it's easy to get into the mindset of, "Medical care would be nice, but I just can't afford it.". You wait and hope it gets better, period. Unless you're actively bleeding to death or in so much pain you can't function, you tough it out.
OverTheAir7149 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an EMT... this reminds me of when I got called to the local Port of Entry for a semi-truck driver who collapsed while he was walking out of the door from having his log books checked. He was a large african-american man who had a family history of heart disease and diabetes... He was more concerned about getting back in his truck than going to the hospital and not dying... SMH
jhn107 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of my late husband. He was in CICU after a heart attack. Every time the chest pain returned, he asked for Maalox before he would take the nitro, even when the monitors were lighting up like pinball machines. The nurse complained to the cardiologist who I am certain has seen more than his far share of patients in denial. But he was kind enough to blame the morphine drip. And he changed the standing orders so she could give him Maalox every time she gave him nitro without having to call and ask.
ericchen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a similar vein, I once saw a guy with a known history of heart disease and positive for nearly every risk factor and he walked to the hospital at 3AM in the cold for 2+ hours with chest pain. His reason for not calling the ambulance? His cardiologist said exercise was good for the heart, so he figured he'd take that advice for the first time in years while having a STEMI.
fritopie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa was pretty stubborn about going to the doctor. Then in his 50's he had a heart attack. After that, he stopped smoking. Cold turkey. Had smoked a pipe for decades. He went to regular appointments and any time he thought he was having chest pains, he was at the hospital. So hopefully your guy will take note like my grandpa (although he didn't have quite the warning your dude did, but still).
Lachwen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My pediatrician had to be badgered into seeing a doctor about his chest pains by his wife. Ended up needing a quadruple bypass.
He was a fantastic pediatrician. But I've heard many times that doctors, even the really good ones, have a tendency to not get their own health issues checked out like they should.
Shinkaru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:26:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends all poke fun at me for being 32 and seeing a cardiologist for no "good" reason at all. I have a family history of heart attacks going back 4 generations, not all of which were due to poor diet/weight/exercise (arguably only 1). After my dad had his, his doc told me I needed to see a cardiologist when I turned 30.
I give no shits what my stupid friends say. I go once a year anyway, my cardiologist was really stoked he got to work with someone on prevention. He told me he could count on one hand the number of times someone has come to him before there was a problem.
themadhatter85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'chucking hearties'= definitely Australian
sandymaysX2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The denial is strong with that one!
ethlian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes people feel like if they're not thinking about it it's not happening, probably that guy
OgReaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chucking Hearties
Oh man thats fuckin great.
ChronicAddiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my grandpa. RIP you stubborn bastard.
timecanchangeyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This will be me. The men in my family kick off in late 50s early 60s. We have a running joke that one of us has to live long enough to get our money back from Uncle Sam.
I actually know what they die of, genetic condition. Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. My brother has it, got a pacemaker in mid 30s. I have some symptoms but haven't gotten it checked out yet. Despite knowing the risk/history, somehow I just don't worry about it all that much? Hard to explain.
WriterDavidChristian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my step dad. He's too afraid to go BECAUSE his dad died of a heart attack. This guy is super smart too, just terrified.
hpmagic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Denial is a hell of a drug
AtLeastJake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Echo tech here. I really wish this was less common than it is. Especially when I'm doing their echo and they have an EF of 20% complaining about how their old lady hounded him enough to come in. Yeah, thank your lucky stars for your "old lady", dude.
DJ-Anakin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol Chucking Hearties! I'm guessing Brit?
Suge_Wallas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People with mental illness are more likely to neglect their health.
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the US? I feel like that explains why all of these people are doing what they do
Meowster11007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or he knew and didn't care.
generic-user-1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't sound like you have good bedside manner. You probably come off as intimidating to most of your patients. Have a good think about your approach and how it could be perceived. Particularly think about your own judgment of patients (e.g. "idiots") and how that's impacting on your ability to provide care. There are ways to even out the apparent discrepancy of power in hospital systems, but taking it out on patients is not one.
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come on mate. There's a big difference between actually interacting with a patient and writing up the anecdote in an amusing manner.
The guy's an idiot because he did an idiotic thing. That doesn't make him a bad person, but it was bloody silly to ignore it and he acknowledged it himself by the time he was in my truck.
Yes, I actually told him he needed his arse kicked. In Australia that's a common and mild reprimand, and it is absolutely possible to say that when you establish a good rapport with the patient and they understand where you're coming from. With an hour and a half transport time I was joking around with him the whole time. You don't really have enough information to judge my bedside manner from one story.
generic-user-1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I judged based on the facts presented. It would be foolish to make assumptions and base a judgment off of that. The extra information shows it was just a bit of banter between you two, which is actually very good. Patients are people, and you acknowledged that. You're a good paramedic.
bunni_bear_boom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
healthcare is expensive, when people are broke they don't always go when they should
MzOpinion8d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does chucking hearties mean? I must find a way to work this in to my assessments.
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chucking a heartie is having a heart attack.
MzOpinion8d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I'm totally gonna start using this. Gotta work on my Aussie accent tho.
Mygaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone to the doctor maybe 3 times in the last 15 years...
Joint pain, full body pain in general, depression, weight gain, etc all the things that would say thyroid issue (which also runs in the family.. which I found out after)
Panic attack so severe I called 911.... Since the panic attack constant heart palpitations "lose of breath", etc.
I forget the 3rd one... had to do with those 2 issues I think for a checkup.
I'm 100% completely healthy, blood tests, xrays, heart tests, or whatever all perfect. I need to lose 80 lbs, but I'm allegedly perfectly healthy otherwise... P E R F E C T L Y fine.
I just don't bother going to doctors anymore.
Hopko682 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people are just happy to remain ignorant, he probably didn't want to deal with the reality of what was happening to him.
That being said, he's a damn fool.
Moara7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, that sounds more like a coping mechanism for deep fear, than it does being ill informed.
He probably knows all he needs to know logically about heart attacks, buy he's had two loved ones go to the hospital and not come back, so emotionally he cant go to the er until he's ready to die.
udenizc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-So, you have a history of unstable angina, several family members dead from IHD, a history of DM and hypertension for which you stubbornly refuse to take your medication and you've been smoking a pack a day for 20 years?
-Yeah, but I'm sure there's nothing wrong.
Spencer51X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have insurance?
Because this kind of stuff is VERY common for people who don't have insurance.
...like me for example. I'll fucking die before I take a $100,000 hospital bill. Welcome to america.
JustaAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My doctor told me to ignore the chest pains and the blood work that said it was a heart attack.
HRCsmellslikeFARTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My family has a history of heart problems. I haven't seen a doctor in 4 years. If I die, I die. No biggie.
fjccommish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I went to the hospital every time I have chest pain, I'd live in the hospital.
thingpaint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the father and brother both instantly died of a heart attack and he didn't after the first little bit he was probably fine.
Just like how turning up your car radio fixes the grinding noise from your brakes.
CorvidaeSF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once saved my roommate's girlfriend's idiot life who should also have known better.
One morning, I was at the table on the computer and my roommate was on the couch in the living room. She wandered in and mentioned offhand to my roommate that she'd woken up that morning with one leg like swollen and purple.
I immediately looked up from my computer. "You mean like deep vein thrombosis?"
She was like, no, she didn't think so. I asked her to show me, but the leg was so swollen by this point she couldnt get her pants off, so she showed me a photo she'd taken in the bathroom mirror right after she woke up instead. Yep, one leg is VISIBLY larger than the other and nearing eggplant purple.
Me and my roommate immediately insist that she go to the ER. She keeps waving it off and is like no, it's fine, I made an appointment at the acupuncturist this afternoon. Now, I do believe acupuncture works for certain conditions, but usually chronic neurological ones, not IMMEDIATELY LIFE THREATENING CIRCULATORY THREATS!!
In trying to convince her to do something about it, I start taking an impromptu medical history. I ask her if theres any history of clotting disorders in her family. She thinks for a moment and is like, "No, my family tends to have really low blood pressure actually. Although my grandma died of a stroke. And my mom had a minor stroke a few years ago. And then she also had a leg clot sometime last year...."
Thank god I'm not a doctor cause I was this close to punching the idiot woman. Kicker in all this? She has an MBA from Harvard Business School. HARVARD. But then, as I've gotten older, I've learned there's a special class of intelligent people who think that just because they're intelligent in one area of life, then their limited knowledge and opinions in all other areas of life must be equally as valid.
Anyway, conclusion of the story is we finally convinced her to go to urgent care at least, who took one look at her and sent her to a damn ER. She was admitted, and after some scans and exploratory surgery they found a blood clot in her leg seventeen inches long. The doctors apparently described it as a, quote, "blood sausage."
DunkTheBiscuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are way too good at deluding themselves. I lost an elderly friend to cervical cancer - she'd had symptoms for years that she convinced herself were arthritis.
Despite six of her seven siblings dying of some reproductive cancer or another, she'd never had a pap smear in her life and only went to the doctor at her daughter's insistence. Once she got the diagnosis she just curled up and refused to acknowledge it. Stubborned herself to death, the old mare :(
creepy_doll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thing is, there's a lot of stigma about hypochondriacs, so it sometimes feels like we're supposed to just ignore little niggling things. Regarding a bizarre growth on my skin I was told it was harmless and the tone was as if I was wasting their time. That's great to know, and I'm sorry I didn't come with a life-threatening disease.
Regarding my twisted finger I was literally told that "with age you get deformities normally". Yeah, well I'm in my early 30s and that twist didn't happen with age, it happened rock climbing. I'm pretty sure I'm stuck with a deformed finger now because on further research it seems like the short period after injury is critical if you want to fix it.
It really makes it easy to get burnt out on medical practitioners and wonder if it's even worth it. Honestly, I see the same attitude in a lot of doctors that I see in your typical lazy office worker, just trying to pass the day with minimum effort. Despite the fact they're dealing with peoples lives.
vvundervvaal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the first hospital army by any chance?
My dad just got released from the hospital after this exact thing happening. Lmao.
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, just a rural town that wasn't big enough to have the means to properly manage a heart attack.
wyvernwy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did this happen in a country with a functioning public health system?
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australia, so it's not perfect, but it's pretty good.
DragonMeme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have panic attacks. But I also have a family history of people dying young of heart attacks. It makes it annoying whenever I have chest pain and shortness of breath. I always go to the hospital because of my family history, but it's been panic attacks each time so far :/
zop_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this in Napa, CA by chance? This sounds like a friend of mine...
Jethr0Paladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an overweight male in his late 20's who smokes and has a family history of heart attacks. I worry every time I have pains in and around my chest due to this. Doctors have said it's probably just muscle aches since my BP is on the low end of elevated when I'm at their office, and because I've never had any other symptoms simultaneously.
Coincidentally, chest pains only occur when I overwork my arms.
dratthecookies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's just fear. A lot of people think they can stop something from being true if they just don't confront it
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what my ex told me before I kicked him out of the car at the ER!
misyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I live in the wrong English speaking country. Our slang did not keep up with the other colonies and the mother tongue.
Dorgamund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funnily enough, this is remarkably similar to my own family history. Looking forward to my next 50 years.
tibtibs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a cath lab nurse, this is too common. People putting off coming in for months or weeks and just letting the damage get worse. Or, they wait until it's too late and end up coding on our table because their entire left system is shut down.
nodogsnomasters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably out of fear. My old roommate had to move out to have surgery for a congenital cardiomyopathy due to a connective tissue disorder. He told me his brother refuses to get checked out even though most of the men in his family have died of heart attacks fairly young.
RL24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How small does a hospital have to be in order to not treat heart attacks? Isn't that one of the most common legit reasons to go to the ER? It's a serious question.
DrCrashMcVikingnaut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A small regional hospital can treat a heart attack. If you walk in off the street you'll get treatment to stabilise you and slow the progression of the illness. However, you'll probably need surgery to fix the problem and stop it once and for all.
For that you need a cath lab. Cath labs are expensive with lots of specialist staff and equipment. Therefor they're only going to be built in larger population areas.
The small regional hospital does what it can to prevent the patient dying there and then, and then ships them off for definitive treatment.
RL24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aha! Thanks for the explaination!
tibtibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that they don't treat them. They have typical protocol that have to follow to stabilize and get them to a hospital that has a cath lab. They have a door to balloon time to still hit of 90 minutes. Meaning that once they recognize that the patient is having a heart attack, they have 90 minutes to transfer the patient to a hospital with a cath lab and the cath lab to balloon the artery causing the issue.
RL24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got it. Thanks!
wolfej4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See now I can sympathize with the idiot, and by proxy makes me an idiot and I'm willing to accept that.
My dad's brother died in 2010 to a heart attack. My grandpa, my dad's dad, died in 2011 to a heart attack. And my dad, again due to a heart attack, died in 2013.
There was one time before my dad passed where I had some discomfort on my left side of my chest and I thought it was heart problems and I got worried. My dad offered to take me to the ER on base (dad was Air Force) to have it checked but I said no.
This year, now that I'm 24 and now that I have insurance (thank you Florida Blue), I'm taking it way more seriously than I should have.
adhdnd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Half the people on my dad's side of the family, both his parents families, have died of brain aneurysms. Nobody told me and my brother this until I was 28 and he was 23. To put it kindly, some people just don't think about it.
batterycrayon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coworker of mine died exactly like this. He was still pretty young and had a bunch of adult children and two very young ones. Super sad.
salsberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the least unusual story so far. People are absurd.
z3r0f14m3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair a lot of people are raised to not go to the doctor unless its super clear that they have to go. Its just too fucking expensive to go and find out its gas.
Plague_of_crocus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit should note this is how a real Aussie talks. Beautiful.
pirateninjamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fear of what he'll find out.
TheSrWrangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would think people working in that field know a thing or two about anxiety...
battlebunnybot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patients can not know whether something is serious or not. That's your job. It's a dilemma. If you visit a doctor with something benign you'll be laughed at and "waste" money. If you google your symptoms they'll laugh at you too or worse. People who don't like that will just wait until something becomes and immediate emergency. You should never mistreat a patient no matter what your opinion on the patient is. It causes damage. You should also never send patients home without a plan. If you ignore a patient's symptoms two things will happen in the long run: 1) patient starts to self-medicate 2) patient switches doctors. Everybody has chest pain from time to time. What's the limit that makes it okay to visit a doctor? 2ร a month, 4ร, 8ร? How is a patient supposed to know that? Also with too vague symptoms GPs send you home and tell you to come back if it perists which to a patient feels like wasted money and the patient is now likely to wait until it becomes and immediate emergency.
Jrsplays ยท 2042 points ยท Posted at 23:37:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad's answer(I am not a doctor): My dad had to tell a patient that they were not pregnant. The patient was male.
AbsentThatDay ยท 1113 points ยท Posted at 01:14:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I filled out 17 pages of symptom questions on WebMD once, trying to diagnose this odd pain I had. The results came back ectopic pregnancy, which I hear is especially dangerous for men. Thank god for WebMD.
I-seddit ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 04:51:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hold on...
give me a sec.
got it.
you've got "network connectivity issues"
Inigomntoya ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:07:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
runs around screaming hysterically
carBoard ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 03:17:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well it would be a pregnancy outside the uterus....
AbsentThatDay ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 03:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that you mention it I haven't had my period in a very long time, maybe they were right.
carBoard ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 03:29:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
better go to the ER for a pregnancy test just to be sure.
[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 04:07:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And get your nails done while you're there.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I see you're diabetic, too
c00kies44 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:06:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure? Check your poop for blood next time. If you see blood, then you are okay.
precociouspi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's poop?
c00kies44 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When a man and a woman really love each other...
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:43:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah always get that one. Or cancer.
PM_ME_MAGIC_TRICKS ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:29:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the plague
crazymcninja ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:23:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear WbMD is useless.
"Ok, so... looks like I have a migraine or early onset Bone necrolyzing ass cancer."
OneGoodRib ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does everybody think that? In my experience it pretty much always has cancer and really unusual stuff as the least likely diagnosis, and the most likely diagnosis is almost always hay fever or something that just needs a heating pad and rest to treat. One time I was convinced I was dying because of my symptoms, and WebMD helped me figure out it wasn't anything serious, it was most likely just seasonal allergies or something. "Well, I guess my throat isn't red with white blotches, so I guess it's just a regular sore throat and not strep."
I've just never had it suggest anything like cancer as the top diagnosis except one time I was trying to put together some symptoms that indicated cancer, and even then, cancer wasn't even in the top 3 diagnoses.
DoubleT37 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:15:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the first WebMD diagnosis I've heard of that isn't cancer..
Neyabenz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WebMD: where's it's always either ectopic pregnancy or a brain tumor.
DrRazmataz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:37:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure it wasn't an ectopic food baby?
Innerouterself ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:51:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Webmd! Either you have a cold or you're dead.
Karl-Hevacheck ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:00:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: did you know no man has ever survived an ectopic pregnancy?
AbsentThatDay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:05:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll contact the make-a-wish foundation, and maybe start a gofundme page. I won't be beaten by this, I'm not giving up yet, not by a long shot!
Blaargg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WebMD also told me that panic attacks were very dangerous and could kill if not treated quickly. You know, the exact opposite of what someone having them should have read.
AbsentThatDay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's priceless.
aaaaaaaarrrrrgh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't heard of a single man who survived one!
isfturtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:31 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once looked up my symptoms. First result, strep throat. Second result, anthrax. Within a few days it became very clear that I actually had hand, foot and mouth disease
LuckyShake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really!!!!!! So for once it wasn't cancer?!?!
Please tell me you don't have cancer.
AbsentThatDay ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:43:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, let me check WebMD.
8orhigherbro ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He hadn't had a period in like, forever.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best comment ITT IMO
bomnjom ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:05:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How'd that come about?
Jrsplays ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:12:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy was just gaining weight and getting fatter. He claimed the intercourse he'd had the month before had gotten him pregnant.
cousinlazlo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he watched that Schwarzenegger movie Junior in school on movie day, and mistook it for documentary.
Sparcrypt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:55:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually know of someone who made that complaint.
Actual story is less funny and more sad though. Guy is borderline mentally disabled and in prison.. other inmates would give him things in exchange for anal sex, one day they went with cheese. Like.. a lot of cheese. And for some reason they convinced him that he needed to eat it all right then and there.
So what does lots of cheese give you? One hell of a gut ache. Which he got, but didn't know from what. So the other inmates told him that after all the sex he'd had, he must be pregnant.
Poor guy had to go to a guard and ask to see the doctor.. now if you ask to see the doctor, they have to take you. But they also ask why. So when the guy said, conpletely seriously, that he was pregnant? Well... he got taken to the doctor, just not the one you'd expect.
I believe the guy was removed from prison and placed somewhere more suitable after that.
Remasa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side to that, I had a patient during rotations that wanted to ask the doctor about her prostate and if a certain medication she had seen on TV was right for her.
I hate direct-to-consumer advertising.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was he a male "seahorse"
patentolog1st ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But my tits are getting bigger, too, doc. Are you really sure?
Lemon_Dungeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did he take it?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he was really looking forward for a baby, he was sad..
Jrsplays ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You actually nailed it right on the head...
Jrsplays ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u/feel_good_factor actually got it right.
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly related: I had some teeth removed from my face recently on two separate visits (had an extra tooth growing in my gums under my teeth so that was one, the other was my last 2 wisdom teeth (that, when the first 2 were removed I was told I would never need to get rid of them)) and even I filled out the form asking about medication changes or health changes and checked the "no" in the "breastfeeding (women only)" section to see if anyone said anything. They didn't notice until I asked if they noticed after they were done with the sheet.
schwermetaller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously the patient was, in fact, pregnant.
It was an elephant with the trunk already peeking out!
ItsMeTK ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:58:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but maybe he identified as female. Don't assume his pronouns cis-scum doctor! /s
OneRedSent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must hear more.
Jrsplays ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:36:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More stories? Or more details?
OneRedSent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, or more of that story. How on earth?
Jrsplays ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another story is my Dad once had a woman come in with her son exclaiming "Them bugs got him!". The bugs in question were just little stickers of ladybugs that the boy had cut out and stuck to his legs.
Jrsplays ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure. Here's what I said to u/bomnjom about it:
Guy was just gaining weight and getting fatter. He claimed the intercourse he'd had the month before had gotten him pregnant.
OneRedSent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:58:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He believed that was possible? smh
Jrsplays ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, the guy was missing a few marbles, so that could have been part of it.
hohinder ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God Bless 'Murika.
titaniumbutter ยท 1564 points ยท Posted at 23:42:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I agreed to pick up my good friend's wife from her pregnancy sonogram. Driving home, the wife tells me she's surprised it's a girl because the last kid was a girl and "it's supposed to go 'boy-girl-boy-girl', right?"
SurprisedPotato ยท 2759 points ยท Posted at 02:46:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Statistically, that is more likely than many other patterns such as, say, boy-girl-squid-rock
malonkey1 ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 03:49:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey now, don't you marginalize my little brother, Squidrock.
EDIT: Wow, this is what gets me my first gold? Huh.
dementeddr ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:26:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did Kid Rock change his name?
SurprisedPotato ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:49:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, he's not marginalised, he's just an outlier. Definitely long tail.
LionsDragon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably gets along great with Uncle Cthulhu though!
MagicallyAdept ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:17:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is always over at his plaice.
Freiling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iswydt
MagicallyAdept ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:37 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am glad you cod understand my joke.
Freiling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please, please stop
Dealthagar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:46:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does he like Krabby Patties?
SM7_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that what Splatoon's soundtrack is? Squidrock?
Apt_5 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:48:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While unlikely, let us not forget that rock is a valid possible outcome
SurprisedPotato ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:31:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, TIL.... ๐ฒ
Modorox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:28:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, now do squid :D
Apt_5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I'm going to have to peruse a few hentai archives but it's gotta be a natural progression, right?
Emerson73 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant Cyanide&Happiness
RyanTheCynic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boy, girl, dog, rock.
AlmaDelDiablo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:26:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are the squid babies kept in the squidward?
SurprisedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:'-D
Frugalfoodie ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:31:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you started the sentence off with "Statistically..." I was ready to argue, but the rest was worth the wait.
ScrotumPower ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:56:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I expected some kind of gambler's fallacy.
Tauposaurus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:23:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We tried so hard to get two squids in a row but never made it work.
Whelpie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First a squid, then a kid, then a squid, then a kid now.
MagicallyAdept ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just copy what Octo-mum did.
Lovat69 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:34:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lizard, Spock?
shamus150 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:32:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I ever have kids, I'm stopping at two!
Ashybuttons ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:04:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could start at three!
MagicallyAdept ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:20:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What four?
Ashybuttons ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:31:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just want a cephalopod baby.
MagicallyAdept ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:42:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a load of molluscs!
ajc1239 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where else would my pet rock come from?
PiercedGeek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely the best thing I have read tonight. Bravo
SerpentSailer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:41:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or boy-girl-kid rock.
spookycherryblossoms ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or rock-paper-scissors
Zogamizer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a rock!
amca01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From Men In Black: "Congratulations, it's a ... squid."
MildlyAnnoyingHippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just replying so I have this saved in a sense, this comment is amazing
knittedfleecesweater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
SurprisedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Asking the important questions, I see.
helm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
boy-girl-sailing yacht is also improbable.
xray_anonymous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My rock came before the squid
tectonic9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shhhhh - this guy hasn't seen Prometheus yet!
clayman2104 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kendallsan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock
PM-Your-Tiny-Tits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a squid now, it's a kid now.
stonecharioteer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd prefer boy-girl-spock, but maybe that's just me.
GrumpyBert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The movie Prometheus got the squid part covered already.
T-A-W_Byzantine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a kid now, you're a squid now.
BeardsuptheWazoo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:04:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Racist.
BukkitGod ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 01:37:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'This isn't fucking primary school.'
Randomsilliness ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 02:41:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg. This reminds me when I was growing up. I thought all dogs were boys and all cats were girls.
Life with #LisaFrank
JazzyDoes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:38:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought certain breeds were male (Labs, Rottweilers, etc.) whereas others were female (Poodles, Pomeranians, etc.)
malonkey1 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:48:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, Pokemon gender difference type stuff.
OneGoodRib ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:12:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that all chihuahuas sounded like Cheech Marin.
AnonymousWritings ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:51:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, you are right about that one. It is definately true. Cats are the females, thats why dogs always chase them.
ZoDeFoo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that with airplanes. Fighter jets are boys, passenger jets are girls.
Randomsilliness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BC they have ppl in their belly??
ZoDeFoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:45:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. I felt like numbers had genders as well.
Randomsilliness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do tell. Lol
ZoDeFoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:59 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personalities too. 1 and 2 were little guys. 3 was like an older sister to them. 4 was an older brother. 5 was a semi-managerial position 6 was also like an older sister, only older 7 was an alpha male 8 was more of a lone wolf but a role model for 4 9 was kinda like the older sibling off at college
Randomsilliness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:42 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I'm waiting on a 7 ate 9 joke. ;-)
tviolet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought that because feline sounded so much like female, they just had to be connected.
Randomsilliness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your logic is better than mine lol
hilarymeggin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:55:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have two daughters, and I constantly have to fight my inclination to refer to badass animals as "he." It even feels weird when I make myself do it, like calling a T Rex or a shark or a bear"she."
Cylon_Toast ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:29:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, the bad ass T-rex in jurassic park was a girl.
weretomato ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:45:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, weren't the velociraptors bad gals too?
Cylon_Toast ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, all the dinosaurs were girls.
Randomsilliness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After I found out I was having a girl. I took me. Good 3-4 weeks to stop calling it a "he".
LionsDragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together--mass hysteria!
justnodalong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i still think that. not because of lisa frank, but just because :3
verdantsf ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:18:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just. Wow.
everythingskulls ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:33:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omfg
SlugABug22 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend didn't marry her for her brains, I guess?
KremlinGremlin82 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:37:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those kids are doomed...
shadmere ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:37:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learned her biology from Bart Simpson, I see.
WilliamB999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:12:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You know nothing about genetics Lise. It goes boy, girl, boy, girl!" Then Maggie was born :D
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:36:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend is taking advantage of a mentally handicapped person.
bedroom_fascist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say "take advantage," I say "getting his pipes cleaned."
Do we have pics of said placenta-carrier?
JesusIsMyZoloft ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a family with 7 kids that actually followed that pattern. ~1/64
confettibukkake ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:42:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean technically that's the odds of any combination of 7.
JesusIsMyZoloft ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any combination of 6. BGBGBGB and GBGBGBG both work.
HowToExist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
50/50 chance but chance doesn't remember
KremlinGremlin82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is she...special? I would be definitely turned off by someone stupid. Your friend must have some low standards...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a common misconception. Some people think that because you have a roughly 50% chance of having a baby of either sex, that it'll switch every time. People are silly.
hilarymeggin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What?!?! Surely she must know other families that have two girls in a row!!
lauraxbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Aunty got as far as actually being in labour before she realised that having a baby hurts. At age 32.
She kept arguing with the doctors and even made them call my mum cause she was convinced there was something wrong as "it shouldn't hurt THIS much!". There was nothing wrong at all. Everyone had to explain to her that yes, pushing a watermelon through a keyhole does hurt like a b!
justnodalong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol this made me laugh. I thought the same...when i was TEN! honestly there ought to be a test b4 u procreate...
mechapoitier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like something I'd say as a joke in a dry voice, and I know a few friends who wouldn't get the joke.
Then years later they'd be telling everybody on Reddit about this crazy thing I said.
sufferingcubsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She had never seen families that had all boys, or all girls?
tamtheotter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:01 on June 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if we're in White Christmas...
ambulancia ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 02:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a paramedic, had a patient barricade his elderly mother and grandmother in the house, threatening to kill himself and them. Eventually he let them out, but still threatened to kill himself. We're all waiting outside, we actually have to park the ambulance a few blocks away until police declare the scene safe. PD calls us on the radio and tells us that they have the patient and we need to take him to the hospital. We drive up and hip out, and here's this 40 year old man in a bathrobe, with what looks like a papercut one the inside of one forearm. While calling the hospital to tell them we're on our way, I say "Patient has a very superficial cut on his left forearm." The patient hears me, and goes "What do you mean 'superficial'?" So I explained that it was a very shallow cut on his arm and that he'll be just fine. He says, "I'll be just fine?! I tried to kill myself! I cut my arm and then stopped when it started hurting, that's how I figured I did some damage!"
I was honestly dumbfounded.
Raineythereader ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:00:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
>_>
<_<
"...Yeah, that's exactly how that works."
c_girl_108 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:52:19 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm bipolar and cut myself out of anger during an episode (brought on by my ex) and out of spite he called the police. I insisted I was not trying to kill myself (it was deep and definitely needed stitches bit obv not a suicide attempt) so they took me to the psych er in handcuffs and you have to stay in handcuffs in the waiting room until your processed. The nurse that came to look at me said it looked really bad, yet I didn't even get a bandage. And based on how it healed I should have definitely gotten stitches. Or at least anticeptic and a bandage. It didn't stop bleeding for hours.
Ungodlydemon ยท 6664 points ยท Posted at 18:11:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I'm
onlyan EMT, but I want to weigh in here to this conversation.I had to tell a patient with severe pneumonia (and the patient's family) that you don't get sick (i.e. catch a cold) by leaving your skin exposed. The family was vehemently debating me on the fact claiming that I had no idea what I was talking about because I'm not a doctor.
Attempting to explain to them the necessity for a foreign body to enter your system was the most preposterous thing to them.
Edit: I just want to say to everyone who flooded my inbox with wonderful sentiments regarding the work of EMTs and paramedics. That appreciation makes dealing with the seemingly inexorable chorus of professionals telling us (me) otherwise much easier.
waterRK9 ยท 2964 points ยท Posted at 20:02:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents always told me that the reason I got sick was because I wore t shirts to bed. Yes, mother, I got the flu because I exposed my forearms and hands as I slept, not because half the kids at my school were probably off dying from it.
_themaninacan_ ยท 1220 points ยท Posted at 21:05:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hands? TF you supposed to wear?
waterRK9 ยท 201 points ยท Posted at 21:08:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gloves.
_themaninacan_ ยท 413 points ยท Posted at 21:09:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr Ralph's patented No-Jerk Innocence Mittens.
im_a_sam ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 23:21:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
now with extra grit sandpaper!
_themaninacan_ ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 00:22:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grind your way to heaven 80 grit at a time!
kDubya ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:16:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Order now and get a complimentary steel wool fleshlight!
probablyhrenrai ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:49:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But wait; there's more! We'll also throw in our Salted Lemon Chile lube, free of charge!
Jaytho ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think my penis just pried itself off, gained consciousness, told me to fuck off with all that bullshit and decided to live somewhere else.
DayanNight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:58 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
imagine you have a brand new piece of paper, now imagine that your are holding it so the edge is taut, now imagine that edge is sliding through your peehole.
thesuper88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use 240 to really polish one off.
niadeo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:21:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you interpret the word "polishing" in the phrase "polish your knob" literally...
IExplainShitJokes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:49:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
underated.
caanthedalek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sandstorm(implied NSFW)
Aka_BigGrig ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:03:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that the Doctor who also patented the anti-masturbation cross?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:07:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was that posted on PS Battles a few months ago?
Aka_BigGrig ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, I'm not sure, but it's been floating around for a while.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's child abuse
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also fake
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:59:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The info is fake, the device is real and for severely disabled kids.
cantstopthecrabs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe it.
regreddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not for severely disabled kids, but IS called a papoose, and are carried on ambulances. Used to restrain kids that need treatment and are combative. Or to keep them from masturbating the way to the ER.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The photo is labeled wrong, but the device and similar ones are used for disabled children who actively try to hurt themselves or other people. Like the picture of the boy strapped to a toilet via a plastic chair that floats around the internet. By no means should any kid be left in either for an extended period of time, but if you have a sick kid in hospital who wants to yank out his IV/stiches/GI tube/etc, and you cannot communicate with each other, that's when these devices are used.
Source: worked with disabled kids.
Edit: a letter.
Idiot_Savant_Tinker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:39:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those sound sexy.
G2geo94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mr. John Harvey Kellogg. No, seriously. Mr. Anti-sex. Creator of corn flakes cereal. (Video sources in description)
YoureProbablyATwat ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:15:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boxing gloves. Keeps flu at bay and stops you from touching yourself, you filthy little heathen! Remember, God is watching you!!
protoknuckles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then, how would you type?
DefenestratorOfSouls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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xiaodown ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:19:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, you got some lovely hands.
Theghost129 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
filled with lotion
Huwbacca ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:37:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hand shoes
DAHFreedom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Strictly speaking, we should all wear gloves while we sleep. But I find they get in the way of myโฆ social agenda.
cabothief ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what? "Should"? I have never heard that, ever.
DAHFreedom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:24:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/sXoxb9rYqpM?t=49
...didn't quite nail it from memory
cabothief ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:35:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooh, haha! That makes so much more sense now.
intensetbug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:53:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are supposed to put them down your pants...
maquila ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't wear sleeping gloves to bed too?
Loki_Isnt_Low-Key ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avenger patterned mittens
MenacingGoldfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gloves
SomeMysteriousChunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a shirt with gloves attached. that sounds like a great idea, I'm gonna learn to sew
daemon_service ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hazmat suit, duh.
showmeurknuckleball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Morphsuit
UrethraX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hand shoes
getoffmyplains ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Socks.
remghoost7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sleeping gloves
Savage47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hazmat suit, you dumbass
Commander_x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oven mitts bitch
AlexanderTheGrave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Burkamas
PeregrineFury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sleeping gloves. Duh.
RolledUhhp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait til I tell you about gloves! You buy 'em one at a time, and boy can I get you some GOOD prices!
Stormwolf1O1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bedtime mittens.
mdubboston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BedMittons
headpool182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You dont have sleep mitts? Must be a Canadian thing.
WheelyBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bubble
Temporomandibular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hand socks
hayward52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wear my contact lenses to bed just to keep my eyes warm, so gloves aren't too unusual. /s
cuntliflower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of heathen doesn't wear gloves to bed?
DemonicLiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A fucking onesie. Duh.
Ra_In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boxing gloves, like StrongBad does.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gloves
BoozeMeUpScotty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep mittens, duh.
Its_me_fred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sleeping gloves of course.
rhinofinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A full Spider-Man outfit
WarehouseToYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Duh, straitjacket
Empha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sleep in a bodybag like a normal person.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't use sleep mittens like an animal?
JHBlancs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously, 9mm disposable nitrite gloves.
Arianfelou ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:18:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My SO's dad reportedly believed that my SO got kidney failure because he didn't go to bed at 8pm every night like he was told to.
uniquecannon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad used to lecture me about stuff like that as well. He says going to bed past nighttime cause health problems. I had a cough? It's because I don't sleep early. My wife's thyroid got trashed by her pregnancy? It's because we don't sleep early.
My dad's Asian (Pakistani), so he's also adamant about never, ever, ever, sleeping with your socks on. Apparently it gives you cancer or aids or whatever Asians believe socks do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know some people won't sleep with fans on for reason s like that
MozartTheCat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:31:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude my daughter is in 1st grade and every single time she gets a cold (or even just coughs once or twice within an hour), my grandma flies off the fucking handle and insists that I must have mold in my walls.
No, grandma. Kids get sick when they're in school, because they are surrounded by hundreds of other children and I guarantee you that at any given time a dozen of them are sick.
JustVern ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Grandmother would insist that if your head was wet, you catch your death of cold.
Anytime she saw me with fresh washed hair, straight out of the shower, she would run to me and immediately cover my head in underwear.
Yes. I'm alive today because my Gram had me spend half my childhood with underwear on my head.
Lucky me.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma lived in Hawaii, and every time I took a shower she made me blow-dry my hair because I would "catch a cold" in 80 degree weather, but we would go to the beach and/or pool every day and then walk around with wet hair and that was fine?
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma used to make me wear a sweater outside in the summertime. In San Diego.
Castianity6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:54:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom makes up the craziest shit. The other day my sister asked to get an appointment about her dandruff since she had it since she was 12 and it still hasn't gone away. She's 16 now and my mom told her she doesn't need an appoint, she just needs to stop sleeping with her hair damp.
waterRK9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom said that I was gonna get sick and die from brain rot or something if I slept with my hair wet.
MarcusAurelius0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:32:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christ they would have a field day with people who sleep in the buff.
mictriggerred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scientologists believe you get sick because you're in contact with a suppressive person or your "reactive mind" is acting up
Wedding_Crasher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, in Korea, you'll die if you sleep with the fan on. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
Seraphus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:47:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always slept in boxers. Since I was like 8. I literally cannot sleep with clothes on, it bugs the hell outta me. I rarely get sick. I'm talking once every couple of years, if that.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know this wasn't the norm growing up. If I wear anything more than boxers to bed it's far too uncomfortable.
Seraphus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Preaching to the choir my friend.
adamissarcastic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't even wear boxers. Shit's uncomfortable in bed.
Seraphus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, depends on the boxers, but I alternate between nothing and boxers.
kalechipsyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad thinks all illness stems from getting one's back cold.
He has had 2 TIAs because he refused to take medication.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf are you supposed to do, sleep in a onesie? I sleep naked. That's what blankets are for
JackSaysHello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see the biggest reason here yet. Cold virus needs cool dry air to spread
ScrotumPower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always sleep with my arms and hands under the duvet. How else would I be able to fondle my balls when I sleep?
Problem solved.
thegoblingamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! The reason I got sick was cause I played video games.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:02 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother told me the reason I got sick a lot was because I had long hair. Not because it was sweeping around picking up germs. No, because it was draining my life force to keep itself healthy.
She was a medical secretary for a little while in the 90s and thinks she knows more than doctors.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2337 points ยท Posted at 20:38:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor here. Don't worry friend. It's 2017. Patients don't believe us either ๐
Edit: fixed phone-related typo
Edit 2: I'm bad at typing on my phone.
Ungodlydemon ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 20:43:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sigh, that gives me so little hope for any respect I hoped to garner by becoming a doctor.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 21:21:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully I took the plunge for other reasons, but yeah.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dolla dolla bills y'all?
P.S. Whatever the reason, was it worth it?
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:54:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like being able to study my ass off and apply what I learn to help people get well. As an anesthesiologist, I like being able to get people through a very traumatic time in their lives.
I really focus on the good stuff (patient seeing me in the grocery store and giving me a huge hug, handing someone's kid back to them safe and sound after a complex surgery etc.).
One of these moments easily trumps 10 of the interactions I mentioned earlier. To me it was completely worth it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:25 on January 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks :) Thinking about taking that path, or going for nursing. It's a tough choice, but that helps a little.
buckeye_baker ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:22:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I think you get what you put into it. I'm currently dealing with a lot of medical professionals because my mom is sick, and I can at least tell you from my family that we value and appreciate the people we've had. It's easy to tell when someone cares for their patients and when they figure out how to speak at whatever level you need.
It's probably silly, but I'm sending thank you cards with some cookies to the people who took such good care of her (especially her ICU nurse who was amazing). So anyway... don't be cynical! I'm sure there are people who are misinformed and maybe not the kindest, but many more appreciate the great service you provide :).
Good luck with your future career path, and I hope you find happiness in it.
amethyst_dragoness ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:33:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Staff totally appreciate that stuff. It means that someone cared we did a good job. :)
jefferlewpew ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:01:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh don't worry, you'll get none
guitargamel ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:18:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not true. They'll totally respect your opinion if it's what they want to hear. It's when there's dissonance between their opinion and yours that suddenly the late-night as-seen-on-tv "all-natural" remedies are much better than what you have to offer.
McChubbers ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:33:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly you don't know about evangelical nest-eggs! They'll save you when you need it most! They said so on TV!
Topher3001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They'll also respect your opinion of their pain when you give them dilaudid. Because, you know, allergy to percocet and it's the only thing that works.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:11:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, every profession has to deal with know-it-alls who write incorrect/misleading information online. If you want to be a doctor, go for it!
trampus1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:04:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just date Jewish women.
Terminthem ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:14:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are there any professions that get respect nowadays?
Psychosmurf43 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:06:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people who spoon-feed other people bullshit that conforms to what they want to hear. Then again, that's not really a profession.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being a doctor won't get you respect.
But it's probably going to make you lots of money, and in this fucked up world, that gets you respect.
love_to_hate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So being a doctor gets you respect.
Finie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By the time you pay off your $250k student loans and work your 70 hour weeks, you don't make that much money.
thebrod ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True about the loans, but not making that much money is incorrect. Completely depends on what field/ type of doctor you are, and your practice. After residency and maybe fellowship, hours are normal 35-45ish and pay can be very high, depending on where you live.
blackhawkup357 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck kind of doctor is working 35-45? The only specialty you'll get hours like that is derm, everything else get ready for ridiculous hours, and when you get home from the hospital, guess what? Now you have to spend more time dealing with paperwork regarding the patients that you didn't get to do during the day. There's a reason many doctors' marriages fail.
thebrod ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:17:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of Orthopaedic surgeons for one, 2 days in surgery and 2 in consults. AND Fridays (or another day) off is typical. This of course depends on their specialty. Derm is another, urologist is another. There are many specialties that have great hours and quality of life. If you knew how to read before getting all pissy, I said DEPENDS on field and type of doctor. Also on location.
stevrock ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't write for shit either - Pharmacists
Byizo ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:29:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But doctor, I read on the internet that (insert asshat comment).
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 22:21:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here are 2 recent patient interactions for your enjoyment(what I wanted to say in italics):
Z 'My medications aren't gluten free. I would have liked to know that when you prescribed them.' 'I promise you that your medications don't have gluten in them.' 'Well that's not what I read.' 'I'll print you out the manufacturer's drug info. Either way, you need to get that blood sugar down.'
Well you don't have Celiac disease so whether or not your diabetes meds have gluten is irrelevant. Maybe if you put down your gluten-free muffin for a minute and got your ass to a gym, you wouldn't need to be on all these meds.
'What do you think of homeopathy?' 'It's a pseudoscience created in the 1700s that is based on the 100% rejected theory that small amounts of things that cause disease can be a treatment. It has no evidence behind it and many countries require homeopathy to have labels stating it is clinically worthless.' 'Well that's not what I read. Also, my cousin used homeopathy when she had a cold and she got better.' 'Well most homeopathic drugs aren't harmful at least.'
I had a cold a few weeks ago and I got better. I also have some organic cage-free rocks in my front yard. Wanna by some of my cold-fighting miracle rocks?
Edit: fixed typo
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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needs_more_zoidberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's super insightful. Thanks internet stranger!
UnblurredLines ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is this drivel about modern medicine? Next you'll tell me a batch of leeches isn't a universal vaccine. HUMBUG I SAY!
moofins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a coworker who says she developed a gluten intolerance after contracting malaria. Is that bunk? Sounds a little bunk to me, but I honestly don't know enough about gluten and malaria to dispute that.
UnblurredLines ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not an MD yet, but I'm leaning towards no. There's a lot of people out there who have "gluten intolerance" but aren't actually diagnosed.
The_small_triumphs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scientist who proved gluten sensitivity existed was the guy who proved it didn't. Go Science
VlK06eMBkNRo6iqf27pq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse my ignorance, but aren't flu shots small doses of the flu virus? What's the difference between that and homeopathy?
TeaAndTacos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:11:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The short version is, flu shots work because your body creates specific antibodies to viruses when exposed to them. It's part of your natural immune response that we take advantage of with vaccinations. Homeopathy isn't medicine because (1) it uses impossibly small concentrations of the supposed active ingredient, which is why posters above refer to "homeopathic remedies" as just water, and (2) if our bodies created specific antibodies to everything that can be used in a "homeopathic remedy", we would all have the WORST autoimmune diseases.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:20:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you just gave me a way to get my patients to get the flu shot. I'll tell them it's homeopathy!
To answer your question, I don't think I explained homeopathy very well. They believe that experiencing symptoms similar to the symptoms of a disease can cure it. They also diluted these meds. Wikipedia actually has a good article on homeopathy.
In a flu vaccine, we mapped out the influenza virus and cut out the part that causes illness. Then we expose the immune system to the weakened virus and our body remembers it.
Groggyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have heard reports by some medical professionals that flu shots don't work half the time. Is getting a Flu shot worth it?
thetoastmonster ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:40:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok, everybody knows doctors are terrible at writing.
pauliopop ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WriterDavidChristian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:28:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's the information age. I've met some really stupid doctors and now because of the Internet, everyone reading this gets to hear about it. And it's not like I'll talk about the awesome doctors or the one who saved my life when the stupid one let me go home with pneumonia, because people like to complain.
dabigfattapatta ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:02:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So doctors are known for having poor handwriting and now they can't property type on their phones...
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So much shame.
Plague_of_crocus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*properly
ArbitraryPotato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We only respect WebMD.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:02:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WebMD is one of the more credible sites patients site to me. sigh
ArbitraryPotato ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:17:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh. Quora?
No, Yahoo answers.
Masaioh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:13:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing you get lots of Dr. Oz and Foodbabe?
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:02:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to punch foodbabe in the throat.
Edit: fixed typo
dapala1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:54:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typo was stab to punch.
I hate that bitch.
usechoosername ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:13:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And all those patients think they have cancer.
dell_55 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:28:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually had a doc at my work look up something on WebMD. I asked what he was doing and said it was faster than looking it up in his book.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the info on WebMD that's dangerous. It's getting through the crap that's the challenge. Since I know how to look, I can find medical info on Wikipedia. I don't though since there are much better sources out there ๐
Freiling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We be MD
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only doctor I need is Dr web, m.d.
Now treat my cancer!
TriPolarBearz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have Dr. Google's opinion on my phone here, and I'm not leaving until you've addressed it!
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm honestly thinking of starting a free web-based seminar on responsible googling ๐
muchasgaseous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would incorporate it into all of my patients' care plans.
wimpymist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin is a fitness instructor for stay at home mom's and I always feel like I'm having mini aneurysms when they all get together and I hear them talk about how dumb their doctors are because they said something different than what they heard from some celebrity or Dr. Oz type show
Karavusk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair there are some doctors that I dont believe as much as Google. For example one told my mum that we shouldnt drink as much milk because it increases our risc of cancer... 10 minutes of google later and a alot of studies... no real observable difference if you drink or dont drink milk.
Ofcourse normally I believe them and take whatever they tell me to take (well and I only really visit doctors I trust but that is not the point).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just doctors. I work in IT. I can't tell you how many people present to me their broken shit, and I give them a rough estimate to what the problem might be and they tell me "I don't think it's that."
"My computer doesn't get to the desktop. It sits with the pinwheel and just sits forever. It also has been getting slower over time."
"Sounds like the Hard Drive is dying."
"No I don't think it's that."
"Whelp, give us two days and we'll tell you it's the Hard Drive because that's 100% the symptoms of a dying Hard Drive, pal."
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In solidarity, tech amigo.
HorseVaginaBeholder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That may have to do with being wrong more often than you think. If I had continued doing what this or that doctor suggested I would never have amazed the endocrinologist who was so amazed he repeated the ultrasound before he believed what he saw, that my right thyroid was back to normal and the 5 mm cold nodule in it seen and confirmed twice over a 25 year period by ultrasound and scintigraphy had just disappeared during my (DMPS, DMSA) chelation therapy of the purely imaginative and "it's all in the patient's head" amalgam-related mercury poisoning. The (university clinic researcher) doctor who treated me (with the chelators) used my email with the news to send it to colleagues "this is from a patient I treat for 'anxiety disorders'". There are too many stories of doctors who got it completely wrong, oh and the famous "it's all psychological" whenever they don't know what's going on. A professor of gastroenterology had predicted I would require PPIs for the rest of my live, fuck that guy - and he completely missed the obvious huge candida outbreak that even a freshman doctor diagnosed with one look at my tongue, for which I even got fluconazole-based drugs for three weeks (and the cause for all of it: that imaginative mercury from the totally-safe amalgam fillings). The bone in the upper jaw where amalgam fillings had been also was in dire straits (several places, an injection meant for the mucosa went right into the bone itself with no effort. It all healed under chelation therapy (DMPS injected right there), the bone is impenetrable again. None of that had shown up on OPGs that I had had.
I still go to doctors and have a good time, but I most certainly don't take your word for gospel any more. A dedicated patient doing some research - yes, even in "esoteric" forums every hundredth comment may actually have valuable information pertaining to ones case - can out-succeed a doctor who tries to match a patient to the narrow range of stuff he/she knows and whose waiting room is full with the next patients.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for sharing. That's quite a story. It doesn't take a physician to know that mercury can be dangerous. I know that badness can happen when people swallow those fillings. Thankfully my dentist gave me a choice between mercury and porcelain. My generation of doctors (I'm in my mid 30s) was taught from day one about the limitations of our knowledge. That said, we are as susceptible to biases as other people. I would no sooner take a doctor's word to be gospel than that of any other expert. One thing a good doctor knows how to do us evaluate evidence and info. When people ask me questions, I think I can find reliable answers. After reading your post, I'm definitely going to have another look at the evidence behind chelation!
HorseVaginaBeholder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately the waters are very muddy because the vast majority of posts on websites and in forums are really ridiculous. Also, I have found people writing detailed and lengthy descriptions of symptoms that I felt I recognized - but they never had any amalgam fillings. So I know I can't easily extrapolate my experience to other people.
I can tell you if I was a doctor - and while I'm not, I have studied hundreds of hours of university courses of org. chemistry, biochemistry, medicinal chemistry/drug development, physiology, anatomy, neuroscience, statistics (with focus on health topics) - would not want to treat this condition. Success is uncertain, diagnosis almost impossible except by trying chelation, it is possible for things to get much worse during and through chelation (especially since when somebody finds they have that problem they already feel pretty bad), it takes a loooong time, patients need money, time, patience and a lot of commitment that almost nobody has.
AstarteHilzarie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Typos are probably less related to your phone than your lobster claws.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't care about your typing or your handwriting I'm just concerned with your documentation. :) Sincerely, Inpatient Coder
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Former coder here. My coding is pristine!
Tea_Junkie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair i went to a doctor about pain in my thumb and got misdiagnosed, i went to another and got the correct diagnosis and am on the mend with a lot less pain now!
i didn't believe the first doctor and it was a good thing.
BlueBrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:38:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Name checks out.
paganize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:45:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exception 1, pediatrician: "you can give him all the Tylenol you want, it won't hurt him"
Exception 2: "I've never heard of post-traumatic arthritis, I think you were misdiagnosed"
Exception 3: "I don't agree with the Pain Specialist; Tramadol shouldn't be given for over a week, except with terminal patients"
The last two WERE VA docs, so I'm not sure if they count. But in every field you will find people who shouldn't be there. The vast majority of my doctors have been flipping wizards, and I thank you for your dedication.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:15:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ.
I have this one in my left second toe
As an anesthesiologist, this one is especially painful.
In my experience, the best doctors are in their 30s and 40s. They tend to put in the leg work and really figure things out.
Dr-luckystrikesLSMFT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're a better doctor than typer. You have that going for you, which is nice.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a smartphone and webmd, I obviously know more than someone with a medical degree.
moosimusmaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is your handwriting as bad as your typing?
Natrollean_Bonerpart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay, as a doctor, you are probably bad at handwriting too.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Much worse. Thank God for electronic medical records.
Finie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believed you were a doctor until you said that. I thought singing EMRs praises was against the doctor code.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Specifically electronic prescriptions. I can give you an MD - appropriate rant about EMRs as a whole at a time of your choosing.
Finie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The checkboxes rear their ugly heads.
But yes, electronic prescriptions and lab orders are the best.
sixfingerdiscount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With thumbs like that lets hope this doctor is not a proctologist.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't need doctors any more, I have Google!
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My polish dad would never see u again if u told him that
MiseroMCS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AUTISM COMES FROM MERCURY, MERCURY REWIRES YOUR BRAIN. BELIEVE THE TRUMPSTER AND THE CONSPIRITARD.
l-Came ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously I fucking hate doctors
DrKronin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Expert opinion has never been more valuable, and experts have never been less trusted. Quite a recipe for success we've got going on here...
Cornthulhu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many people have told you they're going to get a second opinion from their herbalist or chiropractor?
BAN_ME_IRL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor? Sounds like a liberal elitist to me!
UnblurredLines ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would they? It's not like you learned anything in that fancy school that they can't google and understand better in 5minutes than you did in 5 years...
/s
agumonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So many things make sense now.
I need to find an island fast.
ps: on the other hand, as a technically minded guy with a bit of science background, I rarely run into doctors that enjoy my desire for precision.
nkorner77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well stop believing in crazy stuff like biological genders ya quacks! /s
xByteZz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my father tells me great stories about patients who consulted with Dr. Google before coming to his office.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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needs_more_zoidberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smart person being the operative phrase here. The internet has a staggering volume of info. Getting through the junk is a huge issue. Your math background sets you up nicely to deal with it.
GramOrKnotC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not a doctor -- I can read your handwriting!
Jescro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, it's as legible as your hand writing
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sad but true.
swapsrox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine a phone trying to decipher a doctor using swype.
Thegatso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A rich doctor you say? With how many living patients?
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting question.
scuttles away
Freiling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That could be an AskReddit thread in itself.
TheLasVegasRaiders ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:21:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBF, doctors are peddling opiates like crack dealers. You're losing respect by yourselves. Sincerely, someone who does not take pain medication due to the amount of friends that have died from Doctors peddling drugs on them.
needs_more_zoidberg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a young doctor, I was trained to be very wary of narcotics. I think the doctors fueling this epidemic are violating the oath they took to make a profit. Disgusting. That said, the situation is complicated . Back before I went to medical school, medical administrators decided that pain was a vital sign and a lot of pressure was put on doctors to treat all pain. At the same time, pharmaceutical companies came out with powerful narcotics and aggressively marketed them. Add that to the fact that patient put immense pressure on providers. Kind of a perfect storm.
At my hospital, we have responded to the opioid epidemic by titrating people off of their massive opioid doses and by using non-narcotic adjuncts. We also run every patient's CURES report (national prescription database). We report suspicious patients AND prescribers
When patients pressure me for narcotics, I remind them that my oath says to do no harm, not to cause no pain. Sadly they just find someone else. But this is changing. Anesthesiologists are leading a taskforce to change how narcotics are prescribed. I think we can win this fight.
TheLasVegasRaiders ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm sure its tough. I'm just pointing out that people may not believe your profession because some of you guys have become the car salesmen of prescriptions. Currently it appears the ethics board for your profession is like accountants pre-enron. There is a new drug for a new unknown condition every month. You guys have effectively turned yourself into the "holistic, herb peddlers" and made these eastern medicine approach seem more legit. But in general, I think most people just view you as another salesman opposed to a doctor first. I'm sure its tough for you and you're young and what not, but the baby boomer doctors really fucked up the image of your profession. Same as mine, accountants/finance. They're really a terrible, selfish generation with shitty ethics and need to die off.
tomjarvis ยท 1849 points ยท Posted at 18:19:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still get a number of people telling me to put on a hat because I'll catch a cold.
Trying to explain the biology of it just makes them more adamant.
TimmyIo ยท 568 points ยท Posted at 20:06:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this argument with my grandma once we were in Australia (I'm from Canada) I went to sleep with no shirt on and she scolded me saying I can get sick and die. I kind of just agreed with her when she started yelling at me in Chinese.
marekkane ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 21:41:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am also from Canada and the best sleep I get is when I'm wearing thin pyjamas with the window open when it's -12 or below. Beautiful sleep.
adamissarcastic ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:05:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thick covers, room below freezing. Best sleep ever. Camping is also great for this reason.
shane727 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! My room is freezing right now. I got the windows open and I'm just sitting under my thick comforter. Absolute best way to sleep.
the_superbowl ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also the best way to be late to work in the morning!
shane727 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:59:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes the downside is it is hard to get out of bed in the morning.
xSARGEx117x ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:52:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need timed windows. Open when I go to bed, closed an hour before i wake up. Usually the heat is enough to make me leave my room as quickly as possible.
Sinakus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could be like you guys, when my room gets like that I can feel the cold right into my bones, pyjamas and socks be damned.
adamissarcastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to go camping a lot with my family, and while the climate where I am is very mild, we would have nights out that were just above zero fairly frequently. My sister was the polar opposite to me, having multiple sleeping bags, a couple of blankets and several layers of clothes, and complained of the cold. I would lie in the compartment over sweating in my boxers and a thin sleeping bag.
guto8797 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:06:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This might be one of the most Canadian things I have ever heard.
IS what 5ยบ here in Portugal and I shut everything, sleep with a thick pyjama under 6 blankets
marekkane ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:19:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so true though. Cold, crisp air whilst under a good thick duvet and I'm out like a light. Or camping in late fall and early spring, bundled in my down sleeping bag with a wool toque on so only my nose sticks out in the cold air and there's a small frost ghosting the grass outside the tent, hell yes. Cosy cuccoon.
Bainsyboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree about the cold camping... Except the part where you have to get up in the morning to start the fire...
marekkane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm tea-motivated, so it's enough to get me up in the morning to start the fire. That middle of the night pee though....
Cuzeverynameistaken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dude. I'm from the middle east and the moment it drops below 15C is when I'm sleeping with two or three shirts, 2 pairs of pants and a jacket with a blanket over me, with the heater on. On the upside I can still go outside and not die when it's 40C.
1-iota ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:09:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True Canadian right here
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it sleep, or coma?
marekkane ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:58:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mini hibernation. We take after the bears.
catsgelatowinepizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you get a cold nose though
marekkane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. I'm a side sleeper so at some point of the night each side of my nose is against my pillow, and that seems to do the trick to keep it warm enough.
[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 23:51:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Zyphyro ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:17:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes. Once I got a summer cold and they took away my AC remote (am American, study abroad in China). Friend wouldn't let me sit under the AC at his house. This was all in hot and humid Shanghai.
Another trip, I was amazed how long into spring people wore their coats. It was like 80 degrees. I'm sweating just from looking at all of you in your sweaters!
SheeEttin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
confirmed asian
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SheeEttin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really, is that an Australian thing as well? Or have you just picked it up from the Chinese?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SheeEttin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I've only heard it as an Asian thing. Maybe the US is the odd one out.
Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heh
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:53:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SnArL817 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:17:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not? I yell at my kids in Klingon.
TimmyIo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have almost no connection with China my grandma is from China.
emote_control ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:52:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still not as silly as "fan death".
guto8797 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:07:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recall reading something that "fan death" was just a way to avoid the shame of suicide.
If someone had killed themselves police would report a "fan death"
trixie91 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
like "cleaning his gun."
lamebaxter ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, when I was visiting my home town I had found out there was a death. It took a few hours for the news to spread, but apparently the valedictorian had been cleaning his rifle when he accidentally shot his face off. I knew his home life, he was miserable.
Bainsyboy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:43:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its pretty hard to clean a gun with a round in the chamber...
dragn99 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:15:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...holy shit
youmeanwhatnow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never made that connection til just now. Also a Canadian.
TimmyIo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No that is good exactly her worry she said that I can die if I sleep with the fan on me and no shirt.
sturmhauke ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:31:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's mom got on my shit once for wearing sandals in cold weather, except she didn't outright say anything about my feet. She just ranted about how I was going to get sick and threatened to call my mom. It took me like five minutes to figure out what the fuck she was even talking about. The kicker? I was a grown-ass man at the time.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:21:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a lot like the korean sleeping with a fan or the japanese sleeping with a tentacle monster
ProfessionalMartian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:27:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me, apparently it's a common belief in Korea that sleeping with a fan on can kill you.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it is. i live in korea and before I was married and was dating, I would ask men if they believed in fan death. More often than not, they would believe in it, even when I stated in the US many people sleep with a fan on and no one dies from it. I never went on a second date if they said "yes"
TimmyIo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:02:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
China too apparently she said she knew someone who died like that or something "back home"
ChristyElizabeth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:43:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Point a fan at her.
psymunn ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:10:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chinese not Korean
ChristyElizabeth ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:27:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh...... uh.........hmm carry on then. Fan death will be ineffective
happiestvegemite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never sleep with no shirt on in case of a fire. Don't want to have to evacuate naked...
earthlybeets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have to evacuate your burning house, I think you have bigger things to worry about than covering your chest.
Also, what if your shirt catches on fire?
volt-ture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Australian here we actually have a number of bed parasites and things like that that attack exposed skin
bononooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your grandma's hardcore
Calisto823 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. You know stuff is about to get real when they start yelling at you in another language. Or they say your full name before they start scolding.
tonyabbottismyhero2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting a cold in Australia can lay you lo for a while.
Sapphire_Starr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if this branches off the idea that sleeping with a fan on will kill you?
Darpo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as long as you wear a plastic bag on your head when its raining you'll be fine.
Seahorsery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plot twist: she's not even Chinese
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes. I'm also half Australian, half Canadian, half Chinese and can confirm that my grandmother sure was a crazy one
argonator1933 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother(chinese) told me to go gargle salt water to get rid of swollen lymph nodes around my neck. And then she told me not to cook with onions and garlic because it causes heartburn. I told her that doesn't do anything and she wouldn't stop trying to argue with me about it so I just stopped talking.
AboveDisturbing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol once I read Chinese I got it. My ex girlfriend was from China. She told me simar things.
x_stei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's when they start yelling in their native tongue that you know you've lost the argument eh?
olnr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might be an Asian thing. Having watched a lot of anime and live action Japanese movies, there seems to be an extremely common misconception that sleeping without covers or in cold conditions inexorably causes colds. For the longest time, I thought the Japanese were just frail, because they so commonly portrayed their fictional characters getting the sniffles after a few hours in a cold room.
LeeSeneses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like it comes from the same place as Fan death Syndrome.
NoThrowLikeAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is weird, because she's Dutch.
Thermond42 ยท 1246 points ยท Posted at 19:14:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe I read somewhere that if you're physically cold then your immune system is slightly compromised, increasing your chance of getting sick
robthegreatest ยท 578 points ยท Posted at 20:28:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also people tend to be indoors when it is cold outside so you have more contact with others who may be sick.
Minutelord ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:57:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People also usually keep windows closed too while they're doing all that staying inside. Lovely breeding ground for the things that make you sick.
UnblurredLines ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:54:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your nose running in cold weather also makes you more likely to put your hands in the perfect position to transfer someone else's contact germs into a nice warm cavern where they can freely breed.
MobinoMe ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heated air indoors = dry air. Humidity below 30% allows bacteria and viruses to multiply. Increase it to 40 - 45% and you could get through winter without a cold or the flu.
TheRamenator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would do nothing to affect viruses. They only reproduce inside cells. Most infectious bacteria also require bodies to reproduce.
Ghitit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:33:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in high school and occasionally rode the public bus to school.
Once, during a rainstorm I got on a bus that had the heat on high. It was so hot I had to take of my raincoat and still I was roasting. I took a window seat and promptly opened the window for some fresh air. The person behind me poked me and told me to shut the window because she'd catch a cold from the cold air. I told her that she was more likely to catch a cold with the window closed than open. Well, she got all mad and shoved the window closed. (They were horizontally sliding windows so she could push it closed from her side.) I pushed it back open and put a pencil in the gap so she couldn't close it again.
She was pretty pissed but I got a chance to cool off.
Just because it's raining doesn't mean the heat has to be on high. I find people doing this all the time.
theworldismadeofcorn ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:15:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happy cake day!
shapu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I should put the hat over my mouth?
LimaBravo2375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:57 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But surely when your cold you vasodilate & have less chance of infection passing on due to less "fluid surface" available?
MSG_ME_ANYTHING ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:08:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw someone sneeze in -20F weather the other day. Just sneezed straight into the air, no hand, no arm, just out into the fresh air. The resulting mist froze and was visible as it spread. You could literally see this guys mist spread and travel down the train station, it was fucking alarming.
Tini_531 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when riding my bike to school in high school in large groups, you could see the breath of the person in front of you going around them and hitting you right in the face. I used to hold my breath if this happened and either try to bike past them or slow down enough to not be in their 'danger zone'.
I tried not to think about the fact that it also happened in warmer weather, I just couldn't see it.
TheWorldConqueror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wat
NutterGlutters ยท 413 points ยท Posted at 19:29:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sure you didn't read it on Reddit?
After one google search http://www.healthline.com/health-slideshow/does-cold-weather-make-you-sick#7
Tldr cold weather can indirectly increase your chances of getting sick by providing a better environment for germs to spread
EpiphanyMoon ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 21:03:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had surgery on December 15th last year. They explained to me the reason the place was like a walk in refrigerator (to me it was) was to to impede the spread of virus', bugs, cooties, whatever.
All I know is I weigh 100 pounds and froze my ass off. It was at an outpatient place, but hospitals are cold too.
canadianviking ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:47:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had dental surgery when I was about 12. I was too shy to tell anyone how cold I was because I didn't want to be a pain in the ass to the nurses. Last year I had my gallbladder out. This time, I went in knowing about heated blankets and probably ended up covered in 10 of them during recovery. Heated blankets and nurses rock!
werelock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A blanket heater box is on my to-build list for 2017. I spent a lot of time in the hospital from 2015-16 for a bone marrow transplant. Heated blankets are juuuust shy of being as good as spooning/being spooned by a beautiful woman. I probably had a hot blanket at least once a day for 45 days at one point.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've solved a years old misconception tor me. I was wheeled in for surgery and I could not help shivering uncontrollably while I waited for them to anaesthesise me. I always thought that I was shaking with fear but it must have been the cold.
johnnyhammerstixx ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:31:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also because it's hot as fuck wrapped up in impervious gowns. But mostly because there are temperature and humidity parameters in place in an OR for various reasosn. Too much humidity and condensation may form on sterile packaging rendering it non-sterile. Also: surgical fires. The humidity and temperature are set to levels that reduce the risk of spark from static shock.
ToolFO ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What and how in the hell?
johnnyhammerstixx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:40:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
High oxygen atmosphere makes people fuel. It's terrifying.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:48:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In some surgeries they cool the body to 21-24 ยฐC to slow down body functions. You loose consciousness at 28 ยฐC.
screen317 ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 22:29:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI you "lose" consciousness and have "loose" bowels after taco bell
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Taedirk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called the Taco Bell logo.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, for pointing it out! I've learned english, so I'm usually not the one to make these kind of mistakes, I swear! Maybe it was a typo, maybe I didn't pay attention.
_Fallout_ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:09:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I too watched House
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:23:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( I'm studying for my "anatomy exam", and I was too young to get into House when it was on.
Magnon ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:25:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So watch it now, duh.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, idunno, that's a commitment! :o
GunDelSol ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:42:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I too enjoy studying for sex.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a nice graph in my textbook with time on the x axis and felt pleasure on the y axis in relation to the types of female orgasms and the male orgasm.
But our teacher didn't even mention it, which really surprised me.
Seraphus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:38:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know it's not too late right? It's on Netflix.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ain't nobody got time for that! (Also, we don't have Netflix.)
yourenotagolfer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:06:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your consciousness comes loose at 82.4ยฐF?
QuasarSandwich ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also at about 500ฮผg...
yourenotagolfer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put them together and you've got yourself a fantastic summer day!
Highcalibur10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:41:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Internal body temperature, yes. Even when it's very cold outside, your body maintains homeostasis very effectively, keeping you at 'body temperature' (~37ยฐC or ~98ยฐF)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, thank you, I forgot to point out it's the core's temperature.
Also, they were just making fun of my spelling mistake.
Highcalibur10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, haha! Didn't even realise.
NomyourfaceDinosaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't take much change in your internal body temperature for things to go wrong. It likes staying at a cozy 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit at all times.
hilarymeggin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently read this fascinating article in National Geographical about people who have survived impossible circumstances-- like being trapped under water for a very long time -- because they were very cold. It's something like the cold slows the metabolism and everything else way down to a crawl, so the lack of oxygen doesn't kill you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really interesting! You can also hear about people in the news dyng in ice cold rivers and than getting resuscitated hours later because of this. Even little children.
There is a law, van't Hoff's law, stating that a change of 10 ยฐC in heat slows down or speeds up biochemical reactions by 200%-300%.
It seems kinda bullshit, and doesn't apply half of the time in biology. I think it's supposed to be more about in vitro reactions, but I see it used in this context too...
HandsOnGeek ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:25:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cool air impedes germs microbes mostly by keeping the surgeons from sweating as they work and thus dripping sweat into the open incision/body cavity.
Splendidissimus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:43:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lovely mental image.
Cragglemuffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if youre in a sterile environment then you should have an extremely low chance of getting sick, so the decreased immune system that comes with it wont matter much.
The issue comes in when people are in much colder environments like sub 40 degree that are not sterile for long periods.
approx- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the 100 pounds before or after you lost your ass?
stkchk4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
probably before -- there's not too much ass matter on my 115 lb. frame - od'd on noassitol 10 or so years ago
EpiphanyMoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still have the same pancake ass I had before the surgery.
Can't help my body never evolved past the starved, circa 1970s, Romanian gymnasts.
Except they had asses. Lucky, starved, state owned gymnasts. Got to have their own asses and all.
Cowboywizzard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They lied to you. It's just hot walking around working all day in the hospital.
EpiphanyMoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This I believe.
DWilmington ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Often temp is set in hospitals a little low because staff are often there on double shifts and it helps with keeping people who are very tired more aware and less sleepy.
Medial_FB_Bundle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, in general that's true. You don't incubate human pathogens at 23 Celsius, you do it at 37C (body temp). So keeping the place cool would generally be expected to slow the growth of bugs like Staph. aureus that will grow on any surface and kill lots of people in hospitals.
fosh1zzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I had surgery on the 15th too! :high five:
EpiphanyMoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. Hope it went well.
apaulinaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Viruses bacteria etc don't like extreme heat or cold. That's why we have fevers when we get sick. So it isn't only the cold that keeps bugs at bay, it's the hot too.
terrymr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was freezing my ass off in the ICU after surgery about a year ago. When I asked about it they assured me that management was just trying to save a buck or two.
OperationJericho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also because sterile gowns/gloves/hat/face mask/and mask combined with OR lights makes the surgeons and everyone else working very hot. It's easier to just chill the room than work with a hot surgeon.
EpiphanyMoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw someone mentioned heated blankets. They've never been stingy with those, so it's all good. Feeling like crap makes the cold worse than it (probably) is.
Bring on the happy shot please...
hungry4pie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also read that Trent Reznor was a fireman who helped on 10/11. Also that when Johnny Cash heard Steve Buscemi's rendition of 'Hurt' he told him to go fuck himself.
NutterGlutters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The article is fully referenced
dreamsindarkness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cold helps keep some viruses viable for longer periods in the environment. One survival strategy, for flu viruses for example, is that upon cooling below freezing the lipids in the virus envelope enter a 'hardened' gel phase (think cooling fat from foods) that protects the virus. Fun stuff, and what makes some viruses so bad. Not typically discussed because most people don't know what makes up a virus.
Cragglemuffin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:29:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought everyone knew this.
screen317 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:29:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Immunologist here-- when you're cold you make more mucus and anti-microbial peptides. So unless you're in the cold for a week straight, you're better off a little cold sometimes.
Seraphus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, quick question if you don't mind. I'm always wearing a sleeveless tank and basketball shorts (no socks) despite it being in the 40's here. I've done this my whole life, don't even feel cold. I also rarely get sick, maybe 1 time every couple of years (and I recover real quick).
Could your statement be the reason why?
screen317 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:49:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likely so! Do consider that as you get older (I mean 65+), you immune function does start to deteriorate, so I would recommend acting accordingly.
Seraphus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:32:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll keep that in mind, though I'm a long ways away from that for now. =)
eagle2k13 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the same time, cold (and dry) conditions improve transmission of influenza and rhinovirus
madamz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:37:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couple that with people's tendency to stay bundled up inside with other people during the cold seasons and it's pretty easy to see how it spreads so easily in the winter.
DCromo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:44:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
coupled with, how often do you wash your hat or jacket or gloves or scarf?
I mean think about that. A lot of hospitals don't have doctors wear ties for this very reason.
jamphanatic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wash my gloves and scarf weekly with my laundry. I touch my face with those!
amethyst_dragoness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I spent every summer of my life till I was 19 fishing remotely with my parents, brother, and 2-3 crew. Because we were only exposed to each other for 3 months with only a small influx of people from town and the sites around us, no one ever got sick with viral and respiratory illnesses in the summer. I literally thought people didn't get sick in the summer, and was astounded when I was 20 to meet people in the summer months at the hotel I worked at that were sick. It was mind boggling to me. It's just that I lived in such a homogenous germ pool with tons of fresh air and maritime moisture in the summers that was the reason nobody got sick. Traveling people with new/foreign germs in tight spaces are a germ cesspool. I am a germ phobe at our office for that reason. -med office staff person
Ungodlydemon ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:39:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. That's what it does. But the cold doesn't make you sick directly. Some people really can't grasp that simple concept.
edit: a letter
notsostandardtoaster ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:57:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm fairly certain that the majority of people who say being out in the cold will get you sick actually mean that being in the cold will lower your immune system. it's like saying binge drinking can make you catch a cold. no, the copious amounts of alcohol do not directly infect you with a virus, but they do lower your immune system, which effectively means that binge drinking can get you sick.
Zarokima ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone that I've ever heard say that I am completely certain actually thought that sickness magically came into being because you are cold.
Jerithil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also just being a bit cold doesn't cut it, you need to pretty much have hypothermia for it to have a real impact.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:06:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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notsostandardtoaster ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm not an alcoholic, I'm just a germaphobe."
kickaguard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a track record of heavy drinking and never getting sick. I've always assumed it's like keeping a house shitty so robbers won't look into it. Viruses come in, see that the place should be condemned and move on to the next spot without settling down.
That's why it's called a healthy drinking habit.
ChaoticMidget ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You give the majority of people too much credit. Especially in immigrant/minority families, people will attribute illness to a great deal of things before they point to scientific evidence.
Graz13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also... You are much warmer than the ambient environment. Even single cell germs can be attracted by heat.
bestjakeisbest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes if you are physically colder than 97 degrees. 97 to 100 and your body should be functioning mostly normal, the immune system really doesn't begin to slow down till you are hypothermic.
Lougarockets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have wondered this before but I think it's highly unlikely if it's just for a short while. (like most situations where you don't put on warm clothes even if people tell you to) You just enter an environment that is more likely to have foreign bodies because they survive longer.
Rando_gabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well ya...
I am personally infamous for getting sick every time the season changes. Every time there's a drop in temperature my body takes some time to adjust. During that time my immune system is down.
Happens when it gets warm too
And when I go on vacation and eat different food
Or when I go on vacation and hang out at home but my daily schedule is different
Basically any change at alI I am a mess
seizethatcheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS
pepe_le_shoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a few people who are convinced that the cold virus thrives in your nose because the temperature in your nose is lower than elsewhere in your body. And they're also convinced that eating spicy food raises the temperature in your nose and kills the virus there.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first part is true. Rhinovirus replicates best at 33ยฐC (91ยฐF). I've never heard of the second part, but I've never looked it up, either.
kosmic_osmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i read that study too. everybody seemed to miss the fact that the temperatures and times needed to lower immune function was equivalent to sitting in a meat locker for a day.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've found it's somewhat from being indoors with other sick people, but mostly the fact that infectious droplets that are aerosolized tend to float better in cold dry air that in warm humid air. In warm humid air they bind with the water droplets and fall to the ground more readily.
snozzleberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In addition, cold temperatures are also usually dryer either from the environment or from use of heaters. There is a mucosal lining in your respiratory tract from your nose to your lungs that is protective. When there is dryness, the mucosal layer gets thinner and pathogens like bacteria and viruses can penetrate to your cell layers easier.
themannamedme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But still its not the temperature that causes you to get sick.
Elivey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always thought that's want people meant when telling you to put more clothes on when it's cold out, I had no idea people thought otherwise. That's so weird.
havereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The operative word is "slightly".
PassingItAlong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/scientists-finally-prove-cold-weather-makes-sick/
acrobat2126 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. This is only true when you're down to hypothermia level temps.
kalechipsyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They experimented. Half of participants wore damp socks to bed, and all were literally objected w/viruses.
People wearing wet socks were less likely to get sick.
The danger with winter isn't the cold but the dryness, which causes mucus to build up in your throat (b/c you can only breath damp air), and that thickened mucus allows bacteria to grow. Also, hoarseness and hard to breathe generally and sinus headaches from the thickened mucus, which feels "sick"-ish.
Don't want to get sick? Use a (regularly cleaned) humidifier, cover your nose and mouth while outside (scarf or gater), and try mucinex/saline sprays each night if you tend to get sinus stuffiness. Be amazed.
Shivadxb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except increasingly the actual evidence shows it may actually be beneficial to the immune system for the body to experience severe cold at times.
What it's probably going to show us is that living constantly in temperature controlled environments with little variation is really shit for our immune systems.
forestman11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that is true. But the difference isnt drastic whether you where a hat or not. It's still cold outside. Another explanation I've heard is that when it's cold outside people are inside together more which increases the chances of passing something to someone.
justnodalong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mine is compromised a lot, if I don't wear a hat in cold weather, I start sneezing and wake up with a stuffed nose
SkidMcmarxxxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except that it doesn't. Not at all. That's a general misconception.
All cold does is exaggerate some symptoms you have. (Like pain from arthritis)
I have an exam about this on Friday.
Trinitykill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True but that's also the case any time your body has to do anything. Too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, not getting enough sleep, getting too much sleep.
Pretty much any time your body is not in a state of perfect homeostasis compromises you in some way. Plus you still actually have to come in contact with the disease in some way even with a weak immune system.
drunkpharmacystudent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe there are also more pathogens that can easily survive in cold climates rather than hot ones
Ungodlydemon ยท 325 points ยท Posted at 18:24:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called a "cold" bc people are stupid and need to blame something.
Becky_rw ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 19:56:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do feel cold sometimes... when I have a cold.
Ungodlydemon ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 20:06:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you've got a cold sprite living in you now. You should go consult your local shaman.
_themaninacan_ ยท 216 points ยท Posted at 21:03:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) All facts begin as dreams dreamt by a wizard
2) If the wizard crosses the path of a scorned widow, then he shares it at the town council
3) Now it is a hypothesis, and its time to drown the wizard
4) If he floats he is an evil wizard and must be burned alive, if he drowns then the hypothesis is true
5) The king is told and he consults with his menagerie of birds
6) If the king is satisfied, then it becomes an old wives tale and science is once more advanced
My_Fuck_You_Account_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:29:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It breaks my heart that this was downvoted. A terra-daloo to you, The Bob.
sculltt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:57:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All your dead pets are there! And who knows, maybe even shaquille o'neil!
_themaninacan_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Life is precious and god and the bible.
_themaninacan_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will not be deterred. Mr Show is the true way.
_themaninacan_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:43:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brought to you by Smithy's Barrows.
kjata ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:44:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL having prepared water walk is an evil act likely to affect your alignment.
_themaninacan_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go with water breathe.
DiscordianStooge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Lamar Smith?
accomplicated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Classic Mr. Show.
sleepyworm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is this from? It's got that deliciously British feel, like "Look Around You".
Spadeykins ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:15:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or buy a pair of tongs, sprite bottle is semi-flared you should be able to retrieve it if you inserted it correctly.
Angry_Magpie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ouch
Becky_rw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cut that out, this messed up brain doesn't need even more messed up ideas!!!
FoodBasedLubricant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mmmm, cold Sprite. Refreshing!
ReflectingPond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At those times, I've learned to take my temperature. I've been diagnosed a couple of times with pneumonia, when I thought it was just a bad cold.
gracefulwing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japan they call it Kaze, which means "wind". Just as silly. It's cute if a Japanese person translates badly and says "I have wind" and mean a cold. Funny to explain that having wind actually means being farty.
Scarrzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being cold for long enough to lower your core temperature will have an effect on your immunity.
We are constantly bombarded with viruses and bacteria, but shrug most off, so the issue isn't all that cut and dried.
fraxert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cold weakens your immune system and people are often huddled inside when it's cold out, leading to cold and flu season in the chilly months. Over time, people observed the pattern that people who were frequently out in the cold often got sick. It's right for the wrong reason-- people huddled together inside are more likely to pass on germs-- but but they are right and cold does play a part in it.
dockingrockets ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:43:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom still gets on me about this. I'm 28 and she's in her 50s now. No use even attempting to explain, tried before and she was like "ohhh" but brought it up again months later as if I hadn't explained a thing.
I notice a lot of older people (50+) think this.
thisremindsmeofbacon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:53:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhhh but getting cold makes your immune system effectively weaker. Getting cold does increase your chances of getting a cold.
Its not the cause of the actual cold, but putting on a hat will still help prevent it.
Silkkiuikku ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:35:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, you are more likely to catch a cold if you're in cold weather without adequate clothing, because your body is busy producing heat and the immune system is a bit weaker. Not wearing a hat in winter, for example, is kinda stupid since your head looses heat very effectively and it takes your body a lot of effort to keep you warm.
VonAether ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:28:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really any more or less than any other body part. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/dec/17/medicalresearch-humanbehaviour
Silkkiuikku ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:32:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny, I never knew it was a myth. You should probably wear a hat anyway, I mean, you you wouldn't walk around in winter with any other body part exposed except your face.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Silkkiuikku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well if it's warm, that's different.
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Silkkiuikku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but you can be outside for a while with no a hat at that temperature.
Random_Sime ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:14:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rubbish. Your immunity doesn't get worse because you're putting energy into staying warm. It gets worse because it must work harder to deal with the increase in pathogens that come with an increase in available water. Moist air lets pathogens live outside the body longer, giving them more chance to infect you.
Silkkiuikku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. I wasn't sure about how this worked.
scolfin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, the cold virus being a necessary factor in no way rules out contributing factors. You were arguing that speeding isn't a problem because you only crash when you hit something.
ryegye24 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:53:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Why's it called a cold, then?"
Why do you drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?
C0LdP5yCh0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Tom. How's things man? :P Did a double take when I saw your username.
tomjarvis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man!!!
tocilog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:24:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's really more like people offering you gum. They just don't wanna tell you outright that your breath stinks.
DCromo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why don't you wear hats though? i feel like i can tell the heat is just escaping out of the top of my head and jacket without a hat on.
macphile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They presumably also believe you lose most of your body heat from your head.
Pm_Me_Your_Boobs7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my personal reasoning, before we understood how sickness worked, we observed that people get sick when its cold outside, and so people just made a connection and called it that.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it was named well before bacteria and such were common knowledge outside of medical circles?
mikeash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is one of these people. Drives me batty. We get along great for the most part, but every time she says I'm going to get sick because I'm not wearing enough (or worse, that I'm going to make our daughter sick if I don't force her to wear a coat she doesn't want) I go a bit crosseyed.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and I were talking about this just last week. Our families (his in Arkansas, mine in Texas) both swore up and down that if you go outside in cold weather with your hair wet, you'll catch a cold.
The complete illogic of that eluded both our small selves, of course, and we never thought to argue until last week, and frankly our moms aren't policing us as hard anymore so it's not an issue.
Grieie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah try being a swimmer and people of the public try to stop you leaving with wet hair..... If I used the hair dryer every time my hair was wet I would be wasting so much time.
Yurei2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because people living in the past, the inherently ignorant savages that they are, noticed these illnesses occurring just before and during the beginning of winter. Because they lacked science, and instead believed in superstition decided that the cold itself caused the issue. Hence "he caught a cold".
TLDR; Past people are idiots. And so will we be when we are also past people.
flyingthroughspace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next time turn it around on them: "Well if someone gets sick in the summer why isn't it called a hot?"
OldDarte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend told me that, and while I believe her (since her father is a doctor), I still can't help like my whole world is turning upside down every time that topic is brought up. I mean, what does a cold temperature do, lower your immune system or there's no correlation whatsoever?
TheMagnuson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was called "the cold" because that particular family of viruses still functions and spreads well in cold temperatures/environments, where as most viruses need a temperate environment to spread.
SidusObscurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, it is true that being cold decreases your ability to fight off the cold virus (same reason we get fevers to fight sickness), thus increasing your chances of any viruses you do have incubating and giving you symptoms.
All that said, it is WAY more important to avoid contact with the virus in the first place. And if you're home alone with everyone healthy, just being cold absolutely will not give you the flu.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair, I tend to only get sick after being outside in the cold. And/or really, really drunk.
I always assumed my body / immune system took a hit and in the time it was dealing with the shit I put it through, it wasn't able to deal with the cold.
Frostguard11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just really annoying because if you're out in the cold, you'll probably get a bit of a sniffle when you come inside, and then they go "Aha see!"
NO THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just reply, "If we're in America, why do we speak English??"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Japan it's called "wind". Neither cold nor wind give you a cold.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, man, why is it called a guinea pig if it's a rodent from Peru? Retarded people name things and the names stick, it doesn't have to mean shit.
mjms6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This confuses me.
AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom does this and it bugs me insesently...
Madeline_Canada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminded me of one July night I was visiting my mom with my 5 month old daughter. I had been napping awhile and woke up around 11pm and started getting ready to go home. My mom wanted me to start the car so the baby wouldn't be cold. I said are you crazy, it's still hot out. She tried to argue with me but I just left. In the car the temp was 22 degrees Celsius. It was a hot summer.
The next evening I had to sleep at her place (my house was being renovated). Again it was sweltering hot out and she doesn't have a/c. Around 3am both myself and my daughter were woken up by my mother pretty much crawling over us to close the open window above our bed... she didn't want us to get a cold. I was so frustrated. By early morning it was sweltering hot and I could barely breathe. I know my mom meant well, but common sense has never been her strong point.
fedupwithpeople ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband of almost 25 years still believes this one, despite the massive amount of evidence I've provided him to the contrary.
theoryof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They might not have a logical reason, but the anecdotal observations might be correct in this case. source
5FingerDeathTickle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well a recent study has shown that it is actually easier to infect cold flesh. So, being cold can make you more susceptible to catching a cold. Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/body/scientists-finally-prove-cold-weather-makes-sick/
GrumpyKatze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't give a fuck what doctors say, every fucking time I get fairly cold I have cold symptoms for a couple days. I'm going to stay bundled up and I'm going to suggest for other people to bundle up. This whole fucking thing about "the cold doesn't give you the cold" is stupid. Even if it doesn't, it fucking sucks to be cold. Wear a hat.
This isn't like herbal healing or anti-vax, this is telling people "ay you might be a bit more comfy if you don't wear a T shirt while it's 50 degrees outside"
Intensly_Meh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair the amount of idiots I see who dont wear a hat when its freezing is ridiculous. Keep warm, keep comfy. And if you get stranded in your car guess what? If youre dressed warm( along with other provisions for cold weather driving) you wont freeze to death ( its 5 degrees outside now)
Super_delicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I say that it's don't catch the cold that seeks into your bones and won't go away.
Blurgas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You lose most of your body heat through your head!"
Well no shit you do when you don't bother to wear a fucking hat when it's below freezing outside
imdungrowinup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People in my city believe you catch the cold through your ears so they will stuff cotton balls in their ears when it's cold. Also considering I live in Bangalore, it's never cold.
bouco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you are a kid and playing in the cold you start to sweat. Then you get tired and stop and get cold because of the sweat. Can't that make you sick or feverish from going from hot to cold in a few minutes?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:17:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called a cold because cold increases your chances of getting sick, because your bloodstream is slower and you're inside a lot more often, near other people.
But it's really dumb to think being cold will make you sick.
People also assume the cold makes them sick because sometimes after being in the cold you'll have a runny nose.
throaway33ogop ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:26:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is it called a cold?
zaery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because people in the 16th century thought it was caused by being cold.
kaleb42 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:33:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too be fair tho whn it is cold outside your immune system does get a bit weaker and you're more susceptible to getting sick. So there is some truth to it
emote_control ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:51:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because when you have a fever you feel chills?
PowerOfTheirSource ยท 281 points ยท Posted at 20:08:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being out in the cold does suppress the immune system however: http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/out-in-the-cold which means anything you do come into contact with is more likely to get you sick. Also cold weather makes for runny noses and an increased spread of germs to surfaces (and sneezing). It isn't the cold itself, but what the cold does to you and everything around you.
Ungodlydemon ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 20:10:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo.
el_padlina ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:30:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cold and pneumonia related story.
Had an Asian roommate in dorm. One winter day I come back from lectures and as soon as I open the door a wave of cold hits me. Both windows in the tiny dorm room open. The guy was sitting in front of PC with only towel wrapped around his waist and feet in bowl of water.
When I asked WTF? he said it's his friends advice to get cure cold. Ok...
That day I played till like 2am on PC, later around 4am I got woken up by EMTs. Apparently my roommate had some serious pain in chest and called his friends (couldn't wake me up I guess). They managed to get the dorm guard to call the ambulance. From the symptoms EMTs thought he was beaten by someone, so they needed me to translate the questions and answers. After they got him to a hospital they've found out it was pneumonia.
PowerOfTheirSource ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:18:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"What did we learn today Timmy?" "People are disgusting, and slimy, and I should shower in bleach?" "That's right Timmy!"
(Please don't shower in bleach, it may make you a touch... dead and or blind :( )
kjata ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:47:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Timmy was around the sick
So Timmy went inside
Where Timmy bathed himself in bleach
And Timmy fucking died.
(with apologies to /u/poem_for_your_sprog)
ProjectSnipe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:06:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beautiful. :')
kjata ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:08:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, there's a reason people have made that connection for millennia.
What's strange though is that cold (and heat) exposure produces a bunch of positive stress adaptations/gene activations. Yet it transiently makes you more vulnerable to foreign invaders.
free-improvisation ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't have the citation, but I also heard that the stress of dramatically changing temperature and humidity (i.e. going from indoors to outdoors and back with heat or ac on) is also a big factor.
elainegeorge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, the cold weather makes more people go indoors. Being indoors around other people allows diseases to transfer faster.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...And the head is much more exposed than all the other parts of the body. IIRC, you lose 20-25% of your heat through your head.
So yes, put a hat on.
PowerOfTheirSource ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually you don't lose that much more from your head than the same size patch of skin elsewhere. Might be more if you are bald/shaved.
Keysar_Soze ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 22:01:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
|Also cold weather makes for runny noses
How does being cold give you a runny nose? You have a runny nose because of a virus in your system.
PowerOfTheirSource ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:23:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take it you have never walked outside into actual cold and had your nose start running soon after from the irritation of cold dry air?
CthulhuFhtagnngathF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Live in hot country. Never seen snow
PowerOfTheirSource ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Want to trade for a bit? I've had my fill of cold for the winter already :(
Keysar_Soze ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:29:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Never happened to me. It's in the teens today and my nose is fine.
How is that a thing? What is causing your nose to run?
PowerOfTheirSource ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:36:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cold dry air irritates the mucous membranes in your nose, which produce mucous to protect themselves. Your nose evolved to help protect the lung tissue, so clean(er) warm moist air is what the lung tissue "needs". Dry cold air making it into your lungs will irritate your lungs/throat and can trigger coughing (which also spreads more germs). Even in more "normal" weather your nose humidifies the air going into your lungs, it is just the more extreme weather makes for a more extreme (over)reaction.
Edit: Also, anything that makes your eyes water (such as... irritation from a cold wind) can make your nose run as well, since the excess fluid drains into your nose :)
Hawkguy85 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:49:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Son/ma'am,
You are not "only an EMT": you're a professional lifesaver. You may not be a doctor, but you are just as important as one. Much love and gratitude.
Signed,
Everyone whose lives has been saved by an EMT/paramedic
Ungodlydemon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:36:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This means a great deal to me. Thank you.
IHazOwies ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:11:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Only an EMT" You shut your mouth, your job is super important.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:21:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Ungodlydemon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:24:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a professor in high school who did this..
Trumpstered ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:12:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People have been saying that being cold can give you a cold or pneumonia for centuries. Seems to make sense since more people get sick in winter time. Now the whys of my latter statement are hotly debated but I would hardly think someone was an idiot for believing that coldness gives you the cold when that idea is so entrenched in our culture.
How many people here have had their mom tell them to wear a jacket so they don't get a cold?
OCLBlackwidow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope everyone, and I hope they will continue doing so, because they are right.
thegirlhasnoname971 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:10:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my mother in law. She comes from a teeny tiny town in rural Mexico and has a third grade education so I don't really hold it against her but it gets tiring having to explain in to her all the time.
I once brought my then six month old son over for her to babysit. It was a cloudy morning, maybe 60ยฐF and I had my son in fleece footy pajamas, a knitted beanie hat and a blanket on top strapped into an infant car seat which I carried him in to the house. She took one look at him and lectured me because his back wasn't covered and he was going to get ill from the cold....
1 60ยฐF is not cold, she has lived in Oregon for almost 30 years, that is normal temperature here. #2 His back was covered by his fleece pajamas and the huge carseat he was laying in, you couldn't get more covered if you tried. #3...and I have to explain this to her a lot, you CAN'T get sick from your skin touching cold air.
THsoccer15 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:03:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One thing my EMT teacher said "never say I'm 'only' an EMT"
phree612 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:39:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude you're not "only" an EMT. Thank you for what you do.
CSTDude777 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:56:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, I'm not a doctor or anything close to one and that phrase annoys the hell out of me.
Isogen_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:02:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, my parents STILL believe that. I think it's a common belief in certain parts of the world.
MonopolyM4n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people will always believe you get a cold from being cold, they really fucked up with the name. With all the fancy medical terms they come up with cold..
afrodoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER doc here and I love good EMT and Paramedics. Keep up the good work!
maxinesadorable ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so funny as an acupuncturist a big part of our schooling is about how if your exposed to the elements you'll get sick. I always thought it was bullshit. But as I've grown older I see it differently. If a person is vulnerable by being cold or tired and they are exposed to germs they are more likely to get sick. So I think there is truth there you just need to see the whole picture.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once I went to the doctor with a very bad flu and my father, my father wanted the doctor to tell me that my flu was because I camped in cold weather and I hiked in snow, and I wanted the doctor to tell my father that it was a virus which has nothing to do with the cold. The poor doctor explained to us that the virus causes a flu but the cold is bad for the inmunological system. So my father and me returned home telling each other "I told you"
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:22:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Unuhpropriate ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 19:27:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because winter is cold, and people are typically in more confined spaces more often.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That and the cold weather affecting your immune system.
You go outside to travel where you need to go -> Your body has to work harder in the cold to maintain body temp thus lowering your immune system -> You arrive at the destination that has people in it and make contact with someone carrying a virus or what have you. They may not even be "sick" as their body's immune system is fighting it off -> Your weakened immune system can't hold up to it and you get "sick".
swimfast58 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:13:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cold can also give you a runny nose which helps increase the spread of germs between people.
OCLBlackwidow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HOW DO PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS?
It baffles me to see so many people in this thread thinking you can get cold all you want without it having these effects..
apaulinaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also less exposure of skin to the sun, less Vitamin D production.
Spadeykins ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:17:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read that it has a lot to do with two main things.
Enclosed spaces: Cold weather brings more people inside breathing and recycling the same air in smaller spaces.
Winter jackets/clothes: Doesn't get washed as often, worn many times before washing. Sometimes not even washed from season to season, depending on variables.
Silkkiuikku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would anyone wash a jacket? You wear that on your clothes, if it doesn't have stains, you don't need to wash it.
Lausn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:42:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the exact reason they mentioned, because it's dirty and carries pathogens. Geez aren't you listening??
Spadeykins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:46:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep exactly. I'm not just talking about large over coats either, things like hoodies and sweatshirts people tend to gloss over washing for longer periods of time.
Silkkiuikku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But with woollen coats it should be enough if you hang them outside on freezing weather, the colder the better. Real wool is practically self cleaning.
ReflectingPond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen a sheep that's been out to pasture for a few months?
Lausn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:40:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I haven't seen her! Why? Who've you been talking to?!
El_Cochinote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I literally lol'ed. Actually more of a chortle. Made my day.
Kip__Hackman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also heard that cold air is also less humid, and airborne pathogens travel through more quickly. So, when someone sneezes/coughs, the germs travel a farther distance, effectively increasing the infection zone
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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adrianmakedonski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:46:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not an expert but most bacteria seem to do best in warmer temperatures.
I wonder if the cold preserves viruses as they're not technically alive.
Finie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here is a pretty good summary of common viruses and bacteria and how long they survive outside the body.
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/how-long-do-bacteria-and-viruses-live-outside-the-body.aspx
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:06:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, I think it has something to do with cold weather affecting your inmune system
OldMcFart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dry air->dry mucus membranes->cracks->you scrath->much easier for germ to get hold. If I remeber correctly, if someone with a cold sneezes on you, the risk of you cathing it is about 25%, whereas if you shake hands and scratch you eyes, ears or nose, it's about 75%.
dreamsindarkness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cold also increases virus viability for longer periods outside of the body. Think about how labs keep their viable viruses in cold storage. ;)
The longer it can stick around the environment in 'good' condition, the more people it can infect.
Frugalfoodie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correlation does not equal causation.
supertucci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just cheerfully answer "no thanks! I believe in the germ theory!" . Makes me feel better and they (obviously) have no idea what I'm talking about
PicnicBasketSam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was very small, my school had a rule that if it was under 60ยฐ F outside, you were required to wear a coat. Because you might get sick otherwise.
I didn't stay there long. But at my second school, years later, a kid I knew from there came and was thoroughly convinced of this. Like WTF, you're in 5th grade now, you should know better...
Unuhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the family were from Italy, they'd have insisted he got the pneumonia omly because he didn't use a hairdryer after washing his hair. Because apparently if you skip the hairdryer you'll always get pneumonia. ๐
4apalehorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's some real 12 Monkey's Shit right there if you will.
burnerrrs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you please explain this to my mother?
MuricanA321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Say, who's the barber, here?"
waterlilyrm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only an EMT. Donโt kid yourself, you and all other first responders deserve mad kudos for what you do and the danger you sometimes put yourselves into. As Iโm sure you know, EMTs can mean the difference between survival and DOA at the emergency room. Thatโs no small thing, friend. :)
I appreciate all that you do.
fancyabiscuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a 20-something-year-old friend ask me if she could get sick by making out with someone who had a cold.
Awk_Ward1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not "only" an EMT. You do important work!
julbull73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBF, RSV/Cold/Flu season is all related to "cold" but only in regards of the fact that the colder weather causes two things to happen.
1.)Density inside buildings is higher, it's friggin cold outside.
2.)Even in light density situations since at home, you're going to be ok with "closer contact" since you know cuddling when your col is awesome.
So while the cold /= infection. It does set the stage for virus/bacteria to do a little jig on.
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My understanding is that being out in the cold increases the chances of a virus already dormant in your system of getting a foothold. There has to be something there to begin with.
sandymaysX2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paramedic here. "How dare you leave my febrile loved one uncovered? It's cold outside!" Dude. They have a fever of 39 degrees(102 F).
dogGirl666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is "folk wisdom" all over the world. I specifically encountered someone from Morocco that believed this. I wouldn't be surprised if was folk wisdom in the US too.
Enolator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only. You are. Don't belittle your contributions to society :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Only" and EMT? You are still more qualified than 99% of Reddit to answer this question.
obarnesmorgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True enough you need the cold to attack you. But being cold sure as he'll helps it grab hold.
I cannot sleep in a room less than 21' minimum, or chances are whatever I've been around recently will get me. I'm pretty good at keeping my room 22-23.
This weekend a friend and I stayed in a hotel, he has had a cold for nearly two weeks, we've been sharing drinks, etc the whole time, no problem.
Our hotel was very cold, I would say 17', I normally sleep naked, but I had to wear a jumper. Low and behold woke up with a banging cold.
So although it's maybe obvious that you need the virus to get in your system, I can see why people believe that being cold is what makes you sick, as at the very least for me, it's when I get cold that a cold is able to get me.
Bamres ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've told this many times to my dad and he look at me like im a crazy person...
Cahootie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a really bad case of pneumonia a few months ago (we're talking 17 days of 40 degrees fever, multiple visits to the ER, 3 days in the hospital, 5 different antibiotics including alleric reactions), and I do think the fact that I was drinking for 21 hours straight to end a three day bender hight have made me more susceptible to it. 5-6 people got pneumonia that weekend.
bluelinen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never say you're 'only an EMT'. You and your co-workers are amazing, and seem like angels to people are injured or sick and almost always frightened.
From someone who has been on the receiving end.
acmesounds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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markofrost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true (can't get sick by exposed skin) by beliefs of Western medicine. But Chinese medicine certainly does believe this. I think both medicines have merit. While Western medicine is very good at some things, it's a very young medicine. Chinese medicine is recorded as 2200 years old and legends claim 5000-9000 years of oral tradition.
lostpatroness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was on placement in aged care, there was an elderly lady that firmly believed washing your hair would give you a cold.
tomcow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol were they chinese? my parents still believe that because it's age old chinese bullshit folk wisdom.
waltjrimmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the US. My mother is 60 years old. I have had a conversation very, very close to this one with her multiple times.
Mom: Put on a coat! You'll get pneumonia if you go out in the cold!
Walt: That's not how getting sick works.
M: Well don't blame me if you get sick!
W: I won't. I wouldn't anyway. Mom, mom, how does someone catch an STD?
M: They have sex with an infected person.
W: Right. And how does someone get the flu or similar infections?
M: They come in contact with a bacteria or a virus or something else that gets in them and makes them sick.
W: So I'm fine going out without my coat.
M: But you'll catch a cold!
akpak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not "only" an EMT. You're a rockstar hero.
Ragnarotico ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may also be a cultural thing. Chinese people (or at least my parents) believe that if you go out in the cold without clothing, you'll catch a cold.
PaleAsDeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My chinese roommate thought going to bed with wet hair = magically get sick.
corollarysquirrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Only an EMT"? You save lives! Give yourself more credit. Thanks for what you do.
Pythias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously thought that you could get pneumonia if you went out with wet hair because my mother told me this. Turns out she meant hypothermia. And that it wasn't a for sure thing only that you were more susceptible to getting it. Thanks for making look like an idiot mom.
oh__golly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I please just say that you are not "only an EMT". You are important in the grand scheme of things, and to do what you do every day takes guts. You see things I can't imagine and deal with some of societies most difficult people. You save lives every day, and you keep your cool while doing it.
I wish I was half the person you and your fellow EMTs are.
heyitsaubrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother still holds on to the belief that going to bed with wet hair is what causes pneumonia. I was hospitalized with it as an infant, but she, to this day, has no clue how I got it, because that night I didn't have a bath. Now, every year, I always get bronchitis in the winter, and she scolds me for going to bed with wet hair.
iUptvote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rememeber learning this in school and nobody I tell seems to understand or believe me.
eskaza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine being Louis Pasteur
dakuth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All these people wearing things to bed is weirding me out. I haven't worn anything other than boxers or underpants to bed in like 20 years.
(Australia)
iateyourcake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I explained this to someone who works for a healthcare company yesterday, granted, she was an admin, you would expect that they would atleast know that much
WalleyeGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother in law is a head surgical nurse at a small hospital and has argued with me about this topic. She got defensive because I laughed when she first said it, thinking there was no possible way she could actually believe that. This was years ago, and she still tells my kids to bundle up so they don't get sick. And tells me/my wife we got colds because we don't wear hats when it's cold.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old boss of mine once told me she was sure that most diseases were caused by possession.
Silly__Rabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, my husband and his family are from this ideological camp, it drives me crazy.
anonomie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People still say this very regularly. Like I don't think the general public understands that you can't "catch a cold" from things like wet hair, or it being cold outside.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This week I had the son of a rehab patient tell me that his elderly mom caught a cold because she'd had a shower. This guy thinks all African-Americans get cold after taking a shower and it makes them sick. I tried to explain that that's not how the immune system or pathogenic illnesses work, but he was adamant. He's actually quite a bit of a pain in the ass. Meddles with our care and makes very unreasonable demands.
37-pieces-of-flair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf, did they not attend school?
yourmajorprofessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain this to my father-in-law about 15 years ago. He was well-educated and an engineer, and still thought cold air caused colds.
elvenmage16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/ONLY/ an EMT? Fuck anyone who tells you this.
Ungodlydemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medicine is a ducked up place.
mms09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was the patient and their family Eastern European? It's beaten into us Eastern Europeans that you can catch a cold and a myriad of life threatening diseases if your skin is exposed to cold (your back or head especially), if your hair is wet and you go outside (god forbid if it's windy) etc. etc. Thankfully moving to Canada cured my family of these perceptions :P
Volebamus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what their response would've been if you had said to them that none of them were doctors either.
Come_along_quietly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had this conversation with my in-laws.
msstark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My SO is adamant that he will catch a cold if he sleeps without a shirt on and/or cracks the bedroom window open. Sigh.
apaulinaria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question: would being exposed to cold temperatures inhibit or decrease the immune system's ability to fight off a foreign parasite?
MozartTheCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even argue anymore when I'm told that going outside in the cold with your hair wet gives you pneumonia. Like, believing this shows a major misunderstanding of both how your body works, and how illness works.
I hate that I've gotten so jaded about it, but ever since moving out to an extremely rural area, just about every single person lives their lives according to old wives tales. And of course doctors just want your money and big pharma and all that, so the go-to cure for everything from a common cold to fucking cancer is essential oils.
bethbeth45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one annoys the hell out of me, I know several very intelligent people who believe that being barefoot on a cold floor makes you more likely to catch a cold. One of them is my bf, very smart guy, thinks wearing a scarf in bed in winter makes him less likely to get colds flu etc. It's goddamn viruses people! I don't need to put slippers on to appease some nonsense your mother taught you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha When I was growing up my mother swore you'd catch pneumonia if you went into the cold with wet hair.
neeneepoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally had this discussion with my mum this morning. She still doesn't believe me.
phasers_to_stun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate when people swear up and down they got sick from the kid they hugged that morning. Colds come from germs. Gems take several days to actually make you sick. If you're getting sick from that kid it'll be in 3 days not 3 hours. And going out in the rain. Maybe there are more germs being kicked up but being out in the rain isn't going to make you sick. /rant
KitsuneGeisha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 5 yr old caught a case of viral pneumonia once. My family blamed me for letting him go out side in the spring. They believe the ground and air in the spring makes people sick.
zaphod_beeble_bro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Serious question. Why is it when i go out and it's damp and I'm not well covered I'm almost guaranteed to catch a cold then? This happens to me even if i don't even see another human while I'm out
Ungodlydemon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That has to do with the common theme of this thread, in that the adverse climate suppresses your immune system. On the sane note, everyone's different, and you may have an innately weaker immune system that can't handle environmental factors as well as others.
The season of your immune system doesn't always have to let something from the outside in, to boot. That suppression could theoretically allow some organism already inside you the perfect moment to gain a foothold in your body.
zaphod_beeble_bro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:26:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this actually makes perfect sense. so any virus that may have been small enough to not notice and that my body was currently fighting gets a good foothold and kicks my ass cause my body was too busy trying not to freeze.
cajolingwilhelm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Choose your battles.
Paige_Railstone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The way it was explained to me was that rhinovirus actually fairs better in an environment colder than what most viruses prefer (around 50ยฐF) so an extended amount of time breathing in cold air will lower the temperature of the mucosal linings in your nose and throat enough that a minor rhinovirus infection that your immune system could have handled without any outward sign of sickness will multiply fast enough to overpower the immune systems first attempts and turn into a full blown cold.
If that's bogus, I need to nominate my mom for a bullshit-artist award.
TEKNOPARADOX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just makes me pissed. Tf you coming to a doctor for if you're just diagnosing yourself you shlong.
[deleted] ยท 3433 points ยท Posted at 20:51:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a dental hygienist and once was telling a patient after a cleaning that she had gingivitis. She replies with "I must have caught it from my boyfriend". Had to explain to her that it's because she doesn't brush/floss enough. She was 36.
bearpics16 ยท 282 points ยท Posted at 22:28:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not what she meant, but it can be transmitted. The bacteria that causes most periodontitis along with the one that causes caries is transmitted person to person. It's just that most people have those bacteria by adulthood so they need good hygiene to prevent disease
SnakeJG ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:52:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I wish I had heard about this earlier. I wouldn't have shared food with my kids as I have had tough battles with the bacteria in my mouth.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 00:08:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried my best to bend the ear of all my pregnant patients and brand-new parents about this very thing. Don't take stuff from your mouth and put them in your baby's/kid's mouth. Don't share food or drinks with them. Don't pick up a pacifier that fell on the floor then "clean it off" in your mouth and give it back to your baby. And, yes, I tried to convince parents to kiss cheeks and foreheads but not lips because that transmits germs and junk just as easily as sharing cups and silverware.
This is all especially important for parents with gum disease and/or a history of lots of cavities and dental work. People don't treat the big two oral health problems as what they really are: infectious diseases.
mechapoitier ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:31:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What. the. fuck.
mstibbs13 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen so many parents do this.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, gross, right? It's a real thing.
ashadowwolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly my reaction as well as a horrified look. Absolutely disgusting. That's like licking the floor.
pirateninjamonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see it all the time in the Midwest.
bearpics16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen a pacifier fall on the nyc subway floor, the mother picked it up and gave it back to the baby after wiping it with her sleeve. That was WTF.
Also parents let their kids lick the pole.
kasuchans ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:09:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. So since I have crappy crappy teeth (33 cavities, 1 root canal) I could avoid giving it to my kids if I just don't swap saliva? It's not genetic?
f0urd3gr33s ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Swapping saliva is a huge part of it, but it's not just you. It's everyone your kids interact with closely socially (grandparents, other kids, etc). They can get the bugs from lots of places, but parents are far and away the largest source. If the kid never gets the bug, they never get the disease.
Having said that, raising a kid from birth to adulthood without them ever getting exposed to pathologic oral bacteria is pretty much impossible. Once they are exposed/infected, other factors come into play: genetics is a big one, home care regimen (frequency and quality of technique) is another big one, the third biggest is how often they are seen by a dental professional for preventive care/education.
You can't control your kids' genes, but you can control the other environmental factors. Step one: don't expose them to the bad bugs. Step two: treat them like they are already exposed. Step three: be sure you have help (find a dentist who's great with kids).
AlasEarwax8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Avoiding transmitting bad bugs to your kids, is one way to help them prevent cavities and gum disease. However, the best way is to find them a dental home and take them to regular appointments. Also make sure you ask their hygienist to show you how to properly care for your child's teeth while at home. Cavities and gum disease is not genetic and they are pretty much completely preventable.
DissentingDentist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gum disease has genetic predisposition but cavities don't or at least not as strongly. It may seem genetic but it's really the passing of bacteria from parent to child.
JamesTiberiusChirp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can tonsilith-causing bacteria also be transmitted?
I had great dental health until college. I'm wondering if I can blame my exes for the sudden onslaught of cavities.
Interesting to read the dental stance on this. I've only ever heard doctors say that sharing saliva with kiddos is good for their immune system and microbiome.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So tonsoliths aren't necessarily caused directly by bacteria, though there are bacteria in them. They are formed when debris like mucous and dead cells accumulate and mix with saliva and minerals so that the debris starts to harden. I'm not aware of tonsil stones being a transmissible condition.
As for the onslaught of cavities during college, it's possible! But you'd have to control for all the other environmental factors. Did your home care stay exactly the same? Did your diet and sugar intake stay the same? Did you go to the dentist at the same intervals? Consider stuff like that, too.
I'd have to chat with some doctors about their stance on sharing saliva. Most I know are OK following the guidelines put out by the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry. Also, here in Colorado we have a campaign called Cavity Free at Three, which is targeted to pregnant women and very young children.
scroom38 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:07:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So this explains how my teeth are in great condition despite my fairly poor hygene. I'm gonna go ahead and pick it up before I ruin my teeth....
Chromatinkerer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the opposite problem. Now I feel bad about letting friends try my drink haha
scroom38 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:17:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's not like they're going to catch bacteria from your drink unless they've got shit hygiene. It's not your fault if they don't properly care for their teeth :D
UnblurredLines ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:11:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They will certainly catch bacteria from his/her drink. You've got a whole boatload of shit in your mouth at pretty much all times. Hygiene is to prevent damage from the bacteria, not clean it out.
Rockonfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are there people that don't have this bacteria in their mouths? Idk why but I assumed it was something that our digestive systems needed to work properly
ashadowwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Impossible. You're made up of bacteria. You usually have more bacteria living on and inside you than the number of cells that make up your body. Most bacteria is in our digestive systems, particularly in the lower end of the system which goes without saying.
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you read my comment? Ha I'm no expert but I'm fairly certain just cause were made of bacteria we don't have to have all forms of it
ashadowwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems that I have misread your comment and didn't read the "this" in your question. I read it asking if there were people who didn't have bacteria in their mouths. I agree, we don't have all forms of bacteria inside us or we'd be dead.
Afaik, we have good and bad bacteria normally found in our mouths and periodontitis is that bacteria combined with debris and plaque (which becomes tartar) which are a bad combo that irritates and inflames your gums and teeth which cause infection.
The bad bacteria from said infection wouldn't normally be found in the mouth of someone who doesn't have gum disease. So in essence, yes there would be many people without that bacteria in their mouths.
bearpics16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bacteria that causes periodontal disease (usually treponema denticola and porphyromonas gingival) and the bacteria that causes tooth decay (strep mutans) are not part of the healthy flora of bacteria, meaning there is no positive function for them. Most of the good bacteria of the mouth (upwards of 600 strains iirc) function to prevent other disease causing bacteria and fungi from coming in. There isn't a major role of the bacteria in the mouth for digestion, that's going to mainly be in your gallbladder and intestine
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this
mikebong64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex gf had something like that kissing her and the next day my gums would hurt.
LilyKnightMcClellan ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:39:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I've read in multiple places that if you have gum disease, you can spread the bacteria to others by kissing, which would increase their need to floss and brush even better than before.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:09:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kissing, sharing food and drinks, sharing utensils, yep, pretty much anything that moves stuff from one mouth to another can transmit the germs that cause cavities and gum disease.
Existanceisdenied ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing I've never kissed anyone
AlasEarwax8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're on the right track but a little off the mark. No matter who you are or what oral disease you do or do not have, everyone needs to brush twice and floss at least once a day AND IN AN EFFECTIVE WAY. The difference would be if the infectious bacteria in the patient's mouth has led to gum disease (whether gingivitis or periodontitis) they will need to go to the dentist a little more frequently to maintain a healthy oral environment.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 305 points ยท Posted at 21:33:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anyone who flosses. Not even kidding. Who the hell flosses? Seriously though...
ratherbealurker ยท 421 points ยท Posted at 21:54:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife does every night, i try to.
This is gross but next time you have a big dinner, preferably steak or chicken, floss and then ....smell it.
When you floss you'll see bits of food on the floss that were stuck in your teeth..go ahead and smell that.
You'll be flossing every night until you forget.
CartoonsAreForKids ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 22:41:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You underestimate my lack of self worth.
Year3030 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are Jack's black hole of self worth.
drdelius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/me_irl is leaking
PlasmaOokami ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too thanks.
majikmike ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:16:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just floss and be amazed at the shit that you didn't even know was in there, come out. Smell it? No thanks
Thebazilly ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:21:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once while I was at the dentist, the hygienist picked a popcorn hull out of my gums. I had been to the movies two weeks before. Those things need to be scrubbed out.
ashadowwolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thought of smelling it made me want to gag. I already feel gross about saliva.
hangoverDOTTED ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:27:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I broke half my wisdom tooth off and now it stores food so whenever I sneeze random food bits appear out of nowhere. Yeah.
And yes, I am getting it taken care of. I have a dentist appointment on Thursday.
ms211064 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just went through this except I had a cavity that was improperly cleaned out and continued to decay under the cap. Eventually the tooth broke (a molar) and the amount of food that I would randomly feel just while talking was disgusting, not to mention the absolutely putrid smell๐คข
wellshitfuck ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:31:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally gasped reading this. What a disgusting image! I can't imagine actually doing that.
OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I broke a molar and didn't have that issue. Possibly because it was one of the upper molars? I don't know. Have fun getting it fixed! Sucks you have to wait until Thursday. I don't know how your tooth is broken and what they'll do for it, but they essentially put a patch over mine. I mean it broke in half diagonally and vertically, the nerve was exposed, but all four sides are still there right along the gumline, so I guess that's how there's a patch on the tooth.
Although since yours is a wisdom tooth they'll probably just extract it. Mine wasn't, it's just a regular tooth. And I still have all my wisdom teeth because my mom didn't have dental insurance when 3 of them came in at the same time. Awful pain. About the only thing worse was the pain I felt the day after I got that broken molar fixed. I understand why the dentist gave me a prescription for one pill of Vicodin. Ugh.
shaggy1265 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 22:09:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It only smells bad if you don't floss regularly. You are scooping out the stuff that's been in there since the last time you flossed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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shaggy1265 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:15:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't need to tell my self anything. I am going off experience. If I floss before every brushing it doesn't stink. If I go a few days without flossing it does.
spriddler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:25:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry totally misread your comment. You are absolutely correct.
JustARedditUser0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if you have never flossed?
AlasEarwax8 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You will start to develop periodontal disease. That's when the attachment apparatus that holds your tooth in place (gums, bone, periodontal ligaments), starts to deteriorate. This leads to periodontal pockets in your gums. In healthy gums the pocket (we call it a sulcus in healthy gums) should be between 1-3mm(millimeters) in depth. Perio pockets form starting at 4mm. I've seen as deep as 11mm. These pockets are impossible to clean out with a tooth brush/floss/oil pulling/ and anything you can do at home but they are absolute plaque and tartar traps. You now have to make more frequent visits to the dentist (coupled with adequate home care meaning you floss and brush as you should) to get the plaque and tartar cleaned out and to arrest the disease process. If you don't arrest the disease process, it will progress until you don't have any teeth left.
ubiquitoussquid ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:03:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd probably have so much plaque that you wouldn't be able to see the difference between your own teeth and the buildup. It would be like having one large, u-shaped tooth on the top, and another one on the bottom. Honestly, I have no idea, but it would probably take some serious chiseling to remove the plaque, if you still had any teeth left.
AlasEarwax8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What you're referring to is tartar/ calculus. Plaque is soft and will come off with a toothbrush. Calculus is what forms when plaque is not effectively removed and after a while it calcifies and cements itself to the tooth, becoming calculus. Calculus will not come off with a toothbrush.
lmtdis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bro, do you even floss?
Summerie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was his point. People who don't floss should smell it. It's a "that'll show ya" moment.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:21:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:48:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're busy
Year3030 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Three times is a little excessive. You might have OCD. I think it's ok if you do I have my regular little routines that I have to do but they also make sense to me.
lizzyhuerta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly? My main excuse is that my teeth are packed in extremely tightly and it's rather difficult to floss between them. Even my dental hygienist has told me that she has to take more time flossing my teeth than with other people lol
dolphinesque ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They make dental tape, it's thinner than dental floss, I like it!
lizzyhuerta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting! I'll look into that
McWaddle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then it becomes akin to scratching your nuts where you do it just so you can smell it.
"Ffffffffffffffffft........oh yeah, that's bad."
bonnieroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yessss! And now that I floss nightly, I have become more sensitive to it. In a meeting the other day, a co-workers walks in and I immediately know she doesn't floss. Ughhhhhh!
kel-c ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once was in the hospital for 7 days. They brought me a tooth brush so I could brush while bed-bound but no one brought me floss. I didn't think anything of it, but once I got home and was finally able to floss again... oh god. Anytime I'm feeling lazy and think "meh, I can skip tonight," I remember what it was like to floss after getting home from the hospital.
slaguthorcanuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even have to wait. If you haven't flossed in ages, you should already be able to smell the shit that's accumulating in between your teeth when flossing.
slightlyamused1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it's the stuff that's been there longer that smells the worst.
deaniebop ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 22:03:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me. Every night as part of my regular routine. And my SO because he wants smooches.
If you ever get round to flossing, floss your back teeth - the smell of molar gunk is the devil's ass. I never neglect my back teeth when I floss anymore.
on_my_lunch_break ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:36:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think that's bad, cross your fingers that you never get tonsil stones.
FoodieTomjanovich ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:49:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I youtubed 'tonsil stones' once.
Once.
dolphinesque ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:49:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to get them...and yes. They are awful. And all I could think was "How could anyone stand next to me? Why didn't anyone SAY anything?"
on_my_lunch_break ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:09:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had them for years before I realized, and I just assumed it was normal to have ass-breath if you hadn't just brushed your teeth.
For anyone reading this who has the same problem: try Therabreath products, particularly the mouth rinse. I still get the stones, but the stink is GONE. It's been life-changing.
j__h ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How would one know?
on_my_lunch_break ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your breath tends to smell like dog shit, that's a good indication. To know for sure, you can take a look at your tonsils. Point a light at them, open wide, and use a qtip or very clean fingertip to prod at them. If you see any white spots or gunk, and you're not currently battling a cold/flu, you probably have tonsil stones.
BulgingDisk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you tell if you have tonsil stones?
Bullsandacow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch youtube on their removal. Or grab a flashlight and have a look at your tonsils for any white spots. If you see any give them a poke with your finger and see if any hard white stones come out. It's fucked up.
dolphinesque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a hard question - I didn't know I had them for a while. Then one day I felt what felt like a piece of popcorn (like, the smooth casing) kind of stuck to the back of my throat. And I tried and tried to dislodge it but couldn't. I looked in the mirror in the bathroom with a flashlight and tongue depressor, and saw a glimpse of white in where my tonsils were. So I knew there was something back there. And I just kind of kept massaging it and working at it, and eventually worked out a tonsil stone. After that, when I felt that...odd feeling of "There's something in the back of my throat", I knew what it was. They are gross.
pumpkinrum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:38:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really difficult to get access all the way in the back though.
deaniebop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Difficult but not impossible. Gets easier with practice. I use my tongue to help hook the floss back there.
magpie15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't worry, it gets easier when your teeth fall out
crono09 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:53:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only flossed about once a month until my late 20s. Then I got such a severe case of gingivitis that my dentist had to do a procedure where he scraped my teeth underneath my gums and injected an antibiotic between my teeth. Now I floss every night.
False798 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine a dentist separating your gums from your tooth with his needly hook, scraping, glueing, and then moving on to the next. You think it's over but then out comes the syringe with antibiotics.
I hope you had an anaesthetic.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also had it done. They use like a drill type thing underneath. They definitely give you anesthetic but unless you ask they won't use it on every part of the puth to avoid overdoing it. The inside and towards the front hurt like hell. But it really showed me how bad it can be if you neglet flossing too much. I still have to go for checkups more times than normal and have to get my gums scraped every two years because I can't afford the laser.
username14957 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had it done, by student hygienists and it took 3 four hour sessions (3 days in a row) and 15 shots later it was all done. I now brush 3 times a day and floss and use a water pik,i never ever want to go threw that again. Oh and i got TMJ from having to keep my mouth open for so long. So yay......not.
u38cg2 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who works in dental health, for a start.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit. Why wouldn't they? I mean people I actually want to be around.
u38cg2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:16:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You want to be around people with diseased mouths and missing teeth? Well, you do you, I guess.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly you don't have any idea about people I actually know.
username112358 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:49:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'll regret it when you're older if medical advances don't happen in that area quickly enough
spriddler ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:09:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't floss, you have a bunch of gunk in your teeth that accelerate tooth decay. Oh and it smells like death.
cptstupendous ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:41:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use a Waterpik. The little device blasts a thin stream of water in between your teeth, and is much faster and more thorough than just dental floss. Floss is still necessary once in a while to get more stubborn debris out from between your teeth, though.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:15:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I compare Waterpik to flossing like washing a car. Sure, you can hose the car down pretty good (Waterpik) and it will look pretty clean, but to get the really caked-on stuff off, you need to scrub it by hand (floss).
Use your Waterpik daily, by all means, but don't skimp on flossing.
Source: dentist
OneGoodRib ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:01:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But a Waterpik instead of flossing is better than doing neither, right?
f0urd3gr33s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:34:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, absolutely.
cptstupendous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally true. I'm lazy, though.
False798 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a miniature pressure washer. As I recall, pressure washers can kill people.
Pressure washer + mouth =/= good time
cptstupendous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. am ded
PrincessSnowy_ ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:02:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People who don't want their breath to smell.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 23:46:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but who cares about breath that much? Seriously, that's a bit obsessive is it not? Get a mint or something.
kirbygay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:19:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ew
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shut up.
AcidRose27 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:17:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28 and I sometimes think I'm the only person my age who flosses regularly. I've been doing it for a decade because I lost my insurance at 18 and I take pride in my teeth. I finally went for a cleaning this past year and surprisingly it only took about 45 minutes. The dental tech was surprised it had been a over decade since I'd had it done, she said it was only noticeable at my wisdom teeth, but I had those pulled shortly after, so no big deal.
JoeyThePantz ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:32:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh, my teeth suck and my cleanings take 45 mins.
AcidRose27 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:24:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, maybe that's normal, then? Like I said, it had been a decade so I assumed it would take longer.
Year3030 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't go for 15 years (only one cavity when I went back). They cleaned me but there was also some stuff they couldn't get all in one pass, there might be some leftovers. Congrats though on proper dental hygiene (first-bump).
Alyscupcakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty normal.
Neat_On_The_Rocks ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:39:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i brush 2x daily and floss 2x daily and mouthwash after lunch. My teeth are still ass, i hate you
AcidRose27 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes it's genetics. Mine are discolored due to the vitamins my mom took while pregnant. (At least that's what I was told.) I had braces for 2 years when I was younger to straighten them, but they didn't pull my wisdom teeth so my bottom teeth started getting fucked up, so they're not perfect, but they're clean now at least.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:10:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably diet though. I mostly stopped eating sugar and my teeth improved like crazy.
JamesTiberiusChirp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I brush and floss daily and actively dislike and avoid sweets and didn't go to the dentist for 5 years. I had 5 cavities despite the tech saying that my teeth looked like they were in great shape. They were all between my teeth. I guess the shape of your teeth can play a role in your propensity for food sticking and making cavities.
enduhroo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:19:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's fucking gross
kanated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Europe and don't know anyone who flosses. Everyone knows you should do it, no one actually does it. I've heard it's a lot more common to floss in America?
Don't know anyone with bad breath that isn't a hobo, so I'm not so sure what's so gross about not flossing.
enduhroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't u get bits of food stuck in the crevices between your teeth?
NiDonnaNaiz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:15:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss, every night. My Dad didn't get his first cavity until he was around 62 and has great guns; I'd like to beat his record!
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:43:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you mean gums. I hope.
NiDonnaNaiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, yes I meant "gums"! :)
PM_ME_DEAD_FASCISTS ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:01:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do because I didn't and I got cavities and such. But I didn't until recently.
thegirlhasnoname971 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:23:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anyone who doesn't floss...who the Hell doesn't floss?
UnblurredLines ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly haven't the slightest clue if the people I know floss or not. Rather surprised that you'd know that stuff about people.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People who don't want to, don't feel like they need to or have never been told to.
lfairy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:12:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do โ I have sensitive gums, and they start to flare up if I don't.
Mylaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:00:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until coming to reddit I literally never heard of it. Never. English is not my native language too, but I don't even know that we're supposed to do this.
on_my_lunch_break ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:37:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, what country are you from? Are toothbrushes and toothpaste common, just not floss?
wearsunblock ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
European country? Here in France, you'll find floss... but it's the shitty, super thin kind that breaks in between a floss. Strings get caught between teeth. Ugh. I get "glide" floss mailed here.
Mylaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
France. The other guy is pretty much right
8cheese4lunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss everyday! I love flossing!!!!
RanaktheGreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do, but only after corn.
absolutebeginners ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:00:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats fucking disgusting, how could you not floss?
JoeyThePantz ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because brushing twice a day and some mouthwash clears out your teeth completely and there's no medicinal benefit to flossing.
WgXcQ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it doesn't; yes, there is.
If your teeth are standing close together, there are areas the bristles can't reach. Mouth water can only disinfect areas, but if there is any food substance stuck, even minimal amounts, it just stays there and becomes a breeding ground for bacteria.
I know that because there were recently found four areas in my mouth where cavities are starting to build from between the teeth, invisible from the sides/top. Found via x-ray. Is going to be fun to get eight teeth drilled, and could've been prevented by flossing. My teeth are extremely close together, so close that I can only use certain kinds of floss because others catch and rip I have to deal with trying to get the fibers out.
What you say may be true for someone who has enough of a gap between their teeth and is also a very thorough brusher even between the very back teeth. But it only works if all teeth surfaces are truly reached cleaned by the bristles, and I'm doubtful even then.
Basically, mouth water can't physically remove things any more than swishing water in your mouth could, it can only lower bacteria count and take away whatever the brushing loosened.
absolutebeginners ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine never flossing, sickening. There is physical material between your teeth you cant reach without flossing. Regardless of any proven benefit. Anyway, just because something isn't proven, doesn't mean it isn't true. Not like its been proven not to help.
JoeyThePantz ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:01:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been proven that it's pointless dude lol. Brush your teeth better and swish the mouthwash around well. If you have food in your teeth still, eat easier to break down food, your teeth aren't too strong.
absolutebeginners ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:38:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has absolutely not been proven. Pretty gross not to floss, teeth brushing and mouthwash do NOT get everything in between your teeth. Your breath/teeth are probably grosser than you realize.
JoeyThePantz ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:53:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like talking to a wall. Be good dude.
absolutebeginners ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:55:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You made a claim without evidence, you admit your teeth aren't good, so, why are you arguing against flossing?
JoeyThePantz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quick Google search. Pick your source. Second link for me had this choice quote "Weak evidence for flossing doesnโt necessarily mean that flossing is ineffective, it just means there isn't positive evidence for flossing."
No positive. Which means it's pointless. Sure it doesn't hurt, what idiot would claim that, but to say it has benefits is just lying.
Also, I have bad teeth because of a family history of gum disease Smart Guy. Not because I don't floss.
I'm arguing against is because it's pointless. Even the dentists quoted in the article say it has no health benefits but why not do it? Well, why do it if it has no health beneifts? Btw, oral health includes bad breathe and plaque bud up.
AlasEarwax8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That.. that's not what that means at all. You skipped over the part where you wrote "doesn't necessarily mean that flossing is ineffective". The studies are weak but it is because of the method of the study... not because flossing is weak... gum disease is not genetic. It is 100% preventable. Family members can transmit the bacteria that leads to gum disease to other family members. But through adequate brushing and flossing, you can prevent from obtaining the disease through a bacterial infection. You prevent it with brushing AND flossing. If you took time to read the studies on flossing, you would see how though they were proven to be weak in preventing TOOTH DECAY they were effective in decreasing bacteria. Bacteria is what is effecting your gums. Gingivitis is something different from tooth decay. Please please please go to the dentist and ask the hygienist to educate you a bit. Read some scholarly, peer reviewed articles on gum disease because you are seriously misinformed and/or seriously misunderstanding what you're reading.
Source: dental hygiene school
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because my hygiene standards are not YOUR hygiene standards.
absolutebeginners ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:48:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh...you're not very convincing.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:01:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't trying to convince you about anytying, mate. Stating a fact.
TheAddiction2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss after eating something that has a good chance to get stuck in my teeth, even if I can't feel it at the time.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me that thing would be apple skin. Ugh. I can feel it...
Emptyplates ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont either, I can't, it creeps the fuck out.
merdeauxfraises ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi there. I floss.
Aksfsc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss every other night. I like feeling that there's space between my teeth and that feeling of cold water or mouthwash hitting those cleaned out areas of gum between your teeth. It's like an ice breakers commercial but real. Plus if you've ever smelt the gunk between your teeth, it's horrible.
SwedishBoatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do. Vigorously and rigorously. Every time I've neglected my teeth for a couple of months.
FloppY_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try flossing once and smell it. You will be flossing daily after that unless you like having a nasty mouth.
wheelo007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Twice a day flosser checking in. Took years but finally forced it into a routine last year. Gone are the days of bad breath and bleeding gums when I brush. Flossing is the best.
zodar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
adults
edit : The Stages Of Life
DigitalGarden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped flossing because depressed, then got told what a good job I did at flossing- then got told that flossing is only really a thing in the US- I'm half convinced that flossing is a racket.
Daamus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i recently quit smoking and am trying to start flossing, guess which is harder to do?
081890 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do. Twice a day.
the-nub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do, twice a day. Because the stuff that sits in your mouth is fucking gross, and mouths are fucking gross, and if anyone wants to get up on my mouth they'd better take care of their shit-mouth.
GuiSim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss.
CritFailingLife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you ask everyone you know about their oral hygiene habits? While I can't remember any instances of seeing my friends and a large number of my relatives floss (obviously relatives I lived with I saw floss at some point), it's because we do oral hygiene stuff at home in private. I'm wondering if you perhaps just assumed they don't because you've never seen them doing it?
procrastimom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every single day, in the shower!
BearyPotter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do every night because I have a few spots where food gets stuck. If I don't floss, I can almost feel it festering and causing cavaties.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, go floss your teeth.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, go stop trying to get me to floss.
knitsandwiggles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Twice a day flossed here. Hadn't had dental insurance for 10+ years, just recently got it and my husband was betting me I'd have sooooo many cavities. Didn't have a single one, and it took half the time for them to clean mine than it did for them to clean his, and he goes every 6 months. Flossing is key!
newhappyrainbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a chronic flosser. Keep those little dental floss pics with me all the time. One session of root planing was enough for a life time.
Pro tip: no matter how emphatic your shitty dentist is about not using anesthetic for that shit, it's a lie. Did one quadrant without before getting injections, the other three still hurt.
kosif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get those little disposable floss/pick things and keep them by the computer.
mstibbs13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do a few times a week. Used to do it daily until my dentist told me he does not even floss daily.
thebambiraptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom. everyday. That woman has impeccable dental health.
I do on occasion. When I'm feeling saucy.
Marimba_Ani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only floss between the teeth you want to keep.
theimpspeaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss twice a day.
deltarefund ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that does every night.
RobieFLASH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some white people
DragonMeme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to have a lot of issues with her gums. They never permanently went away until she started flossing in her mid-twenties.
AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do!
ubiquitoussquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do everyday, and I try to make my husband, who has gotten much better at it. It's hard not to feel like you have to step up your game, knowing the other person is inevitably going to notice your less rigorous routine. Two really great things about flossing regularly I've noticed: 1. After a while, you feel the need to do it because you become more sensitive to the feeling of having even the smallest bits of debris in your teeth. I even carry little flossers in my purse and lunch box just in case. 2. In a matter of a couple of weeks, it goes from a painful bloodbath to feeling like a little spa treatment/gum massage. The relief is amazing and I love feeling like I can swish water between every tooth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't until i got a bad case of gum disease. Not like those pictures on the wall of the dentist bad, just couldn't remember a time when my gums DIDN'T bleed randomly throughout the day. Thing is I talked to plenty of dentists and they blew it off. Some would just tell me to floss more but because they didn't tell me "YOU HAVE GUM DISEASE" I didn't take it seriously.
Welp two root canals and lots of gum treatments later, I take dental health a lot seriously. You don't understand how plesant it is to finally brush my teeth and not spit out blood. I floss every singly night and the glide brand of floss is my favorite. I don't really get anything out anymore but I'd rather be safe than sorry . (Or paying another few grand on dental care...)
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh bud, I have the best dental hygiene of all my living relatives. And I don't floss regularly if ever.
jebkerbal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only floss the ones you want to keep
tylerb108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do...
meghonsolozar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do it at least once a day, sometimes more. The feeling of food between my teeth drives me insane.
OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always hated flossing. It makes my gums sting, and it never seems to get anything out. And I've never understood why it doesn't just shove stuff up towards the gums. Or how you floss anything besides your front teeth. And then people started saying that flossing actually isn't necessary anyway so now I don't even know.
sebastiaandaniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a tiny gap in between two molars, so every single time I eat something with a little consistency (bread, meat, seeds, nuts et.) I get it stuck between my molars, so yeah I floss multiple times a day. Only floss over there though.
Zhuinden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I stop doing it but then I get a cavity that could have obviously been prevented by flossing and then I feel like an idiot.
NoDoThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Myself and my friends and family all floss. Where are you from?
bodysnatcherz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do! Everyday. The payoff comes when you go to the dentist and get to be the star patient.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough.
sunnydaize ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:44:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss everyday. And flex. But mostly floss ๐ฉ๐๐ฉ๐๐ฉ๐
No but for real I floss daily. You should too, you nasty ass!! ๐
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aside from the message your giving me here about flossing, could you please never used an emoji ever again? Hate the bloody things.
CeaRhan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:51:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's incredibly unhealthy, I really can't believe some people do it.
spriddler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you talking about???
benhc911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i can't speak for them, and I floss daily because I care about my teeth, but perhaps they are referring to the transient bacteremia that occurs after flossing (but also after brushing)?
Not really sure of any other concern...
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical benefits of dental floss unproven.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you read the article, numbnuts, you'd see that in the UK where floss is neither reccomended nor widely used there is no greater instance of tooth decay or gingivitis. Claiming "common sense" isn't a substitute for factual proof and there's plenty to suggest its totally unnecessary.
svengalus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:57:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I floss 15 minutes a day. I just keep Plackers at my desk and floss as I type.
My dentist loves me.
LordMitchimus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:37:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't there some ADA thing going on right now where they're deciding that flossing does nothing extra if you brush well?
WgXcQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No need to discuss, can't be true. Source: my mouth.
My teeth are so close together that even floss sometimes gets stuck there, due to having a small mouth/short jaw and wearing a retainer as a pre-teen. So everything was pushed together to give a quite nice and straight visual impression, but there are areas the bristles simply can't reach between.
I'm actually looking at having four areas that need to be drilled out and filled in that are the sides of my teeth where they touch (so, eight fillings, because each case affects two teeth), because I used to only brush (thoroughly), but not floss, and in those areas a bacterial film could build.
It's invisible from the sides and top and was only caught before causing pain and possibly needing a root canal because my old dentist retired and her successor basically started out by x-raying each patient's teeth to get a baseline, and it is visible there. Flossing would've prevented it.
OnyxIsNowEverywhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think? I'm not sure. Nobody really explained flossing to me so I just brushed
dancingliondl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THE DREADED GUM DISEASE.
GlideStrife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That poor boyfriend. Imagine how readily she blames him for shit if this was her first reaction.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not far off. She was one of those women where the saying "don't stick your dick in crazy" definitely applied
NiDonnaNaiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It actually can be transmitted!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was her boyfriend ginger though?
steeze2pleez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her boyfriend must have been a redhead.
Unzbuzzled ยท 528 points ยท Posted at 01:25:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient drive himself to the neurology clinic who ended up being completely deaf, cortically blind in half his visual field, and demented to the point where he didn't know what decade it was.
JZPotter ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 01:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's honestly impressive
Sam-Gunn ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 14:33:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pedestrian wedged into his grill wasn't as impressed...
OhSolios ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 03:43:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you had someone go around to his place and find out what the hell was going on with his family. I mean why hadn't someone brought him in earlier.
Unzbuzzled ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 03:46:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was a pretty tough independent old dude. Didn't really let on that he had so many problems.
OhSolios ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 04:14:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old "I'm fine woman! Stop your nagging, I'll get to the Dr when I need to"
HesusInTheHouse ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:22:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you just described my grandpa.
mmm_unprocessed_fish ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*every grandpa
charles_milette ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:54:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This statement is so true. My grandpa is becoming deaf and has severe memory issues, yet he won't go see the doctor.
self_me ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe because of his severe memory issues
Subtitles_Required ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:27:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No granddad, you said we could take you to the doctor if we stopped at the ice cream shop on the way home. Remember?"
Great way to trick him into going. Use his memory problems against him for his own betterment.
mmm_unprocessed_fish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Always with the hearing loss. When my grandpa was alive, I'd go visit him with my dad. I'd really have to weigh the importance of what I said before I said it, because between the 2 of them and their lack of hearing aids, I'd have to repeat myself 4 times.
ting4ling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also me last night when talking to my wife.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dad, you're yelling at the hat stand again."
VolcanicMeerkat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, I feel this.
Luckily one of my grandpas was a career military medic, so he knew when shit was wrong. My other one, though..he was like this. Sigh.
Treczoks ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:24:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Demented drivers are a real danger. And you cannot real help it.
Luckily, my father-in-law was taken out of the game early: He drove the car from the parking lot behind the house to the front, stopped, and then he just forgot how to drive a car. His wife then hid the keys until my wives brother came to take the car away.
notaphysicianyet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:46:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I find this awfully ironic seeing as how we have multiple people WALKING in off of ambulances into our ER. Wishing your patient the best of luck moving forward, and not in a car, ever again.
justcurious12345 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did he get home?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:09:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm picturing the scene from Wolf of Wall Street.
Edmojo06 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:41:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy pulled this off, and yet we still have drivers with all 5 senses in tact who can't use a turn signal
SpiderParadox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So then I mean... he isn't really right in the head so it's understandable he'd make stupid decisions.
krisbykreme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He probably thought he was going to work.
LukeTheGeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What black magic did he use to drive successfully?
klol1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Impressive.. A neurologist send me back home when I had double vision, I really wonder how she got the job
jedrekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:19 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So a typical driver?
narcolepticdoc ยท 1483 points ยท Posted at 23:23:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From when I was a resident, working in the living hell that is the GYN-ER at a major Florida hospital.
Woman comes in complaining of missed periods. Hasn't had one in two months.
Me: Do you think there is any chance you may be pregnant?
Patient: No! That's impossible.
Me: Are you sexually active?
Patient: Yes, of course
Me: Do you use protection?
Patient: No.
Me: Do you think you might be pregnant??
Repeat for 15 minutes.
Edit: I swear, we could have reduced the number of visits to that ER by stapling a bag of pregnancy tests to the door with a sign saying "Think you're pregnant? Take one" and tacking a vaginal ultrasound probe to the door with a sign saying "Want a picture of the baby? We use this to take the ultrasound."
BarkingLeopard ยท 247 points ยท Posted at 00:42:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're forgetting how ignorant the patients that you just described are.
If you stapled a bag of pregnancy tests to the door, your patients would take the tests, but inevitably try to use them by spitting into the tests or shoving the tests into the rectum.
watson-and-crick ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 03:20:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's not how it works? My gf is gonna be mad when I tell her...
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, come on. EVERYONE knows that babby comes from the hoo-hah. So you're supposed to put the test in the hoo-hah.
pacsunmama ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 02:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's always infertility.... :/ I love arguing with doctors who insist I could still be pregnant, even when I was actively under the care of a very attentive fertility doctor and obviously NOT pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 11:59:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My go to response is "Well, between being lesbian and with my lack of uterus I find the posibility quite low"
I understand why they ask, but that even after that I get the "are you sure?" is like, too much
throwaway-8b9d496 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 16:57:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had cases where I have been repeatedly asked by doctors/nurses/etc if I am positive that I am not pregnant....
Even after disclosing, repeatedly, that I am MtF transgender.
And then having to explain what that means. And that I lack the requisite equipment to be pregnant.
And sometimes they still ask if I'm sure...
nolovelesbian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:27 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Curious, where do you live that you have to explain to doctors what being mtf means?
throwaway-8b9d496 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:40:48 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure it was just the case of a stupid doctor...
Hunny_Bunny20 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:13:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably just don't believe that you were male. Flawless transition? or ignorant doctors/nurses?
You'll be surprised how many females that lie about being pregnant.
Siletzia ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 06:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry. I broke my ankle this past summer, and I was asked about 3 different times by 3 different nurses if I could possibly be pregnant before the x-ray. The last one asked twice, once to make sure I wasn't pregnant and then again when the date of my last period was. Her eyes nearly popped out when I said April (I then explained I had an IUD installed that month and she calmed down).
cynical_genius ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 09:00:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm currently studying radiography and I have to ask every female patient from ages 12-53 if they could be pregnant. If they're 11 I have to ask them if they've started having periods yet, and if they're just over 52 I have to ask if they've reached menopause yet. If we don't get a definite "yes" or "no", we won't do the x-ray until they've had a blood test (unless it's an emergency situation in which case we have to make them aware of the risks).
It can be really awkward (especially if it's a 14 year old girl whose mother is in the room), but it is drilled into us how serious it is that we're using ionising radiation on people. Plus people lie. All the damn time.
Siletzia ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 09:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, I understand. I'd rather be asked 3x than you miss someone's baby and fry it :( it's just a bit annoying for normal folk who know what's up. Like going through TSA or border stations. No I don't have weapons. No I don't have a gun or knife. No I don't have anything that could be used to stab and or shoot someone.
I'm not mad at people ensuring the health and safety of others, ot can just be a bit annoying. I'd never take it out on a tech but everytime I'm asked I start to wonder WTF was wrong with the person who was the reason for the rule. There's always someone, like the person in the thread OPs post.
catonic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, it's a lower dose than the backscatter X-ray machines at the airport...
Aeolian_Epona ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why people lie to medical staff... They're there to help you, not judge you, and they need all the information you could possibly give them in order to hopefully make their jobs easier.
pink-pink ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 10:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try answering never, that really throws them.
(I was born missing a few parts)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:01:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hello sister, I know the feel
pesh527 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:52:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cycle is super screwed up (anywhere from 29 to 53 days). So if I'm on day 40 I'm not worried. I went for an MRI and was asked if I was pregnant. I said no. Asked when my period ended. Told him when. His eyes bugged out. "Are you sure you're not pregnant?" "Yes, my cycle is messed up. " He made me sign some form acknowledging that I much be pregnant. He was an ass about it and I just wanted to get it over with so I signed. I guess it's not enough to insist that you know your body and know what is and isn't normal for it, as is evident in this thread.
Siletzia ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:15:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry that happened. Whenever I'm about to lose my patience with something like that I think of people like the OP of this thread was discussing. For every woman like you or me there is little Janey who thinks the first time doesn't count and douching with coke works to prevent pregnancy because all the sex ed she's gotten came from youtube comments. I'd rather they ask me three times than fry some poor fetus :/
Stellapacifica ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:45:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cycle has never been normal, and I've been on hormonal BC for a couple years. At one point it had been nearly a year since my period, and I'm an asshole, so when I went in for something unrelated - flu shot maybe? - and they asked for date of last menses I gave them the month and day... and then year. Poor fella went crosseyed at my lack of belly (I'm a fit petite lady) and said something like "you're not regular then?"
I apologized for scaring him and we had a good laugh about it. He did say not to worry, he was just caught off guard, but I still felt a little mean.
Lewis_Cipher ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:24:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but based on the previous anecdotes in this thread, there's no way in hell I'd take your word for it.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:50:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, you gals are giving me flashbacks to the time my ex went to the ER for abdominal pain. It went much like /u/narcolepticdoc's post, except she was BPD, so she had an episode and had to be sedated before she would take a pregnancy test. It turned out to be benign ovarian cysts of some kind, but I don't know what the big deal is about being damn sure you aren't pregnant before going further.
The doctor is not trying to insult you, or call you stupid, its called doing the due diligence. They know what they are doing and the order things should be done, for accuracy of diagnosis and safety. You signed that paper in the off chance you were pregnant, so you couldn't sue if following procedures created complications.
Shit, my parents tried for years to have kids, adopted, then ~ ten years later, my sister and I were born, long after they thought they were infertile. So who knows without confirming it.
TL;DR, just let the doctor do their thing, they aren't trying to insult you, they are doing their job.
SnArL817 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:46:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife always stuns doctors. "When was your last period?" "2012"
Before that, it was 2005. Apparently, an endometrial ablation can heal.
A_Drusas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:36 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( Sometimes after only a few months, even.
shannibearstar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:15:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, pregnancy is pretty irrelevant for some women. Like myself. Even if I was and needed a test, I get the test. Not like the fetus is staying long.
Squigglystuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the U.K., if you were, you'd have to wait until you were no longer pregnant. People can change their minds about keeping a pregnancy and ionising radiation can cause birth defects. Obviously, emergency situations are different, but routine stuff that can wait would have to be put off.
shannibearstar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:49:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its impossible for me to change my mind. Abortion or suicide are the only options.
Squigglystuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:19:38 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That wasn't a personal comment, just a legality/hospital policy one.
shannibearstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:26 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can always lie. Or say you dont know. All while waiting for the day you abort.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:52:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why didn't you say that in the first place instead of making a big deal about it? They aren't insulting your intelligence, they are doing their job.
Siletzia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:21:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did. Multiple times. Never assumed they were insulting my intelligence, just something they have to check because of people like the thread OP talked about. It's frustrating though sometimes. As I wrote in reply to another commenter below, I'd rather they ask me three times than fry someone's fetus. It's just kinda annoying at the time. Like if you cross a border and they ask 10x if you have anything illegal, any weapons, any knives or guns, etc etc.
quenishi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on the mini-pill. It's been nearly a year since I've had a period. Wonder how she'd take that.
lowdiver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And long term birth control methods... I have nexplanon. And until recently no sex for over a year. Still get panicked looks from nurses when the answer to "when was your last period" is 2 years...
usechoosername ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 00:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could a ER do that? Have someone at the front desk essentially hand out pregnancy tests? I know it would encourage people to come to get them but it might also save the doctors time for the Emergencies in the Room.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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usechoosername ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cheeky.
But seriously now that you reminded me we (for now) essentially already have this service there just needs to be better advertising for women going there instead of the ER.
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:16:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it's something helpful for women so god knows they won't shell the money out. But all the free condoms in the world.
Brutal_Lobster ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both are beneficial to both sexes. Only one of those prevents the spread of STDs and unwanted pregnancy.
bexelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But preventing an unwanted pregnancy is good for everyone...
irisheye37 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:48:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is what he said...
bexelle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:25:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I must have misread it.
Lesson learnt: don't reddit at 4am.
Cheers
Brutal_Lobster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:36 on January 21, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay friend, have an upvote!
usechoosername ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:29:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is just the spin you put on it! It isn't about helping women, it is about reducing hospital wait times. ;)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:18:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The idea of handing out free pregnancy tests just seems like a huge liability for a hospital. If somebody gets a false positive or negative, they would probably go after the hospital.
Now, within the context of a free clinic, that might fly. I dunno. IANAL.
catonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easily avoided by a plurality of tests. "You came up positive? Here, have four more. If they all come up positive, you're probably pregnant."
Swordildo ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 00:02:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be a lesbian.
narcolepticdoc ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 00:15:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was pregnant.
InsanePurple ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she have a reason why she was convinced she wasn't pregnant??
bduddy ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 01:07:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, "it couldn't happen to me" describes all of the other patients in this thread, so...
stupid_sexyflanders ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Denial.
narcolepticdoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:00:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is not just a river in Egypt.
Gsusruls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DeMississippi perhaps?
Cosey28 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a lot of people out there who are convinced that the pull out method is 100% safe.
tanandblack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:23:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that is a form of contraception if used correctly (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coitus_interruptus) perfect use is apparently 4%
SadGhoster87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:02:40 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a Harry Potter spell
nomorebears ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 00:25:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I've had a doctor argue that exclusively having vaginal on vaginal sex could still lead to pregnancy unless I was on a contraceptive.
[deleted] ยท 152 points ยท Posted at 02:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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LevelSevenLaserLotus ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a cool parent.
Parallax151 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my married lesbian friends had their third child I sat down with the one that wasn't getting pregnant and gave her a box of condoms.
Homeschool-Winner ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... if the vagina your vagina is sexing has sperm in or on it, maybe? But that's... unlikely.
SeanTheTranslator ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:36:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Threesome.
Swordildo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did that specific doctor get percentages from the local, pharmacy?
luckierbridgeandrail ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:51:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stop that! You're not /u/commahorror.
Swordildo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not, yet.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:55:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He wasn't wrong. It's extraordinarily unlikely, but still possible. Would require one of the vaginas in question to have recently been used on a penis, but it is possible.
quenishi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:12:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I was in that situation (very highly unlikely) I would totally ask which one of the two would be producing the sperm...
... then never, ever seeing them again.
TryUsingScience ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:01:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to my fiancee last time she was in the ER.
Doc: Do you think there is any chance you may be pregnant?
Patient: No! That's impossible.
Doc : Are you sexually active?
Patient: Yes, of course, with my girlfriend, she's right over there.
Doc: Do you use protection?
Patient: I'm a lesbian.
Doc : Do you think you might be pregnant??
Repeat for 15 minutes.
bexelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first thought, too.
Always get asked, still no man involved.
PM_ME_YOUR_SPANIELS ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:59:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UF Shands?
GertieFlyyyy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:46:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds about fuckin right.
fiberopticsx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Thankfully we didn't have a GYN ER there.
AtomicHare ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I now feel better about the time a nurse did this with me back in high school.
Her: Do you think there is any chance you may be pregnant?
Me: No! I'm definitely not pregnant.
Her: Are you sure? If you want we can do a pregnancy test here.
Me: I'm sure. There's no way I could be.
Her: We don't have to tell your parents. The results can be private.
Me: I've never had sex.
Her: You do know there doesn't have to be any penetration to get pregnant, correct?
Me: . . .I've never even seen a penis in person.
At the time I was pretty uncomfortable with how she kept pressing, but now I realize she probably saw a lot of stupid pregnant teenagers.
femmerat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:38:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this line of questioning when I go to the doctor because my partner of 6 years is a trans guy. So, yes I'm sexually active with a man. I don't use birth control and no, I'm not gonna get pregnant. I'm like a riddle!
ruralcricket ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you met my sister-in-law. She was ~35, was gaining weight for "no reason", went to her Dr. and she asks "have you been having intercourse?" Nope. So tests, more tests... Finally they give up and do a pregnancy test - positive of course.
Dr - I thought you didn't have intercourse? Do you have sex? Oh, yes, I have lots of sex.
She thought she wasn't having periods because she thought she was in menopause @ 35 and didn't mention it.
birdyhugs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:18:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, to be fair, a lesbian couple could have unprotected sex without any concern for pregnancy, so her responses aren't necessarily ridiculous by default.
edit: none of the other replies to your comment showed up on mobile for me. my bad for being redundant :')
Skolas519 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like that one Spongebob scene where Patrick won't take back his wallet.
ShineeChicken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an aside, it was policy at the hospital I worked at to never give ultrasound pics of the baby to the patient. There were so many times I enjoyed denying a mother a picture. It was my only form of revenge on the idiots who would sometimes roll into the ER. :(
AllCheeseEverything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of some article I read about a woman suing a lab because she felt raped by the ultrasound tech. I guess she just didn't realize what she was in for when she went to get a transvaginal ultrasound.
narcolepticdoc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:59:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It didn't help the situation that in my ER we couldn't afford to get proper ultrasound covers for the transvaginal probes, but had no shortage of the black "tuxedo" condoms with ribs and reservoir tips.
Oh. And the transvaginal probes these days are dainty little fairy wands with a little flare at the tip. Back then they looked like big thick cylinders with a rounded tip and a handle. We're talking thicker than a large banana here. I used to cringe just looking at them. Felt so sorry for the women who thought they'd come into the ER for a picture of the baby only to find that we didn't do transabdominal scans.
FFXIVpazudora ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geez, she was stupid even before she said she doesn't use contraception. If you have sex, you can't be sure you're not pregnant.
AShadowbox ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:30:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're homosexual. Made that mistake with a patient once when I was in training. (EMT not MD)
maradetron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unrelatedish but im wondering if you actually have narcolepsy
Threash78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But she didn't think she was pregnant, so how would that bag of pregnancy tests help?
spockspeare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tbh, that's on you for repeating the question after she confirms she doesn't use protection when having sex
Shadowsole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look I gotta ask, how would of you felt if a woman came in and after the hellos just said out right "I'm positive I'm not pregnant cause I haven't had sex for months"? Cause I understand why it's an important question but when I was in hospital I got very annoyed at the constant double asking and really wanted to say it from the get go.
SparkleyPegasus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm just fat
Personalphilosophie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was a lesbian?
narcolepticdoc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. She was an adult, straight, sexually active, pregnant, and ignorant of the basic link between unprotected sex and pregnancy. Or in denial of said link.
sevjac ยท 2795 points ยท Posted at 01:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient made an appointment and brought in his shit in a box. He was concerned about the size of his turd, and if it's normal. All he got from the visit was, "Normal turd. Yes, it's pretty wide."
Turd box was set out with biohazard waste. Waste guy thought it was a misplaced package and put it on the front desk. Secretary got quite the surprise that day..
saltinstien ยท 922 points ยท Posted at 04:45:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What concerns me is that a waste guy found a box in the biohazard bin and decided to put it on the front desk. That has to be against some kind of protocol, right?
skooched ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 06:45:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was exactly my first thought, to me that seems like it could even be a firing offense. What if that had been infected with
HIV? Orsome other extremely dangerous biohazardEdit: I am one of those ridiculous people, it couldn't have been HIV
WhosYourPapa ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 07:33:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well, maybe the story is fake
Ohioboy2 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:06:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I thought everything on the internet was true.
throwaway969798 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:43:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hey I read it on the internet so it must be true right
mttdesignz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:41:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
President Elect Trump agrees with this statements a lot more than you do, sadly.
Whelpie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:24:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"If what I read on the internet is always true, and I can write anything I want on the internet, and then read it, then that means that anything I think is true!"
Forum_ ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 08:05:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV cannot survive outside the Human Body for more than a few seconds.
You still have a point, though. It could have been lots of dangerous things.
entenkin ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 08:24:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV can survive outside of the human body, for example in a vial of blood, for longer than a few minutes.
dolphin_cave_rape ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:33:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A few seconds? It's over four weeks according to this paper in the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes and Human Retrovirology.
cystocracy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:04:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That paper is about HIV surviving inside of contaminated syringes, not exposed to the open air.
dolphin_cave_rape ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:38:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Forum_ claimed that:
This is the claim that I was refuting.
Forum_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....
Hello germophobia my old friend....
Actionmaths ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 07:51:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does sound very fishy tbh. Sounds like op is trying to milk the old bodily-excrement-in-a-box karma.
Tzipity ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:22:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You never know. Cum box guy really exists. That's at least one person we know of who has a body fluid and box affinity so...
fanfarius ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:15:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Milkin the pooper, yo
sevjac ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story is true, but to be honest I did not actually witness the taking of the turd box to the secretary's desk. But I definitely heard and then witnessed the shock of the package once reopened. Our best speculation was that the delivery/waste/custodial/etc personnel was the responsible party for moving it. ...but it certainly could be intra-office revenge and someone won't confess ..
dankmernes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:19:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the Jumanji of poop
scientifiction ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:40:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poomanji
Jack92 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:12:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Protocols are like experience, and to quote a Steven Wright joke "Experience is what you get right after when you needed it." Protocols have to be put in place when common sense fails.
2SP00KY4ME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:19:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And wouldn't he smell it?
cestlavie922 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My thoughts exactly!
MCJokeExplainer ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 04:23:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I've never worked anywhere close to the medical profession, but I was briefly a personal trainer, and I had one client who kept trying to get me to look at her poop. I never managed to convince her that even if I were a nutritionist, I could not read her poop like tea leaves.
shelbeam ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:27:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she just had a fetish.
brickmaster32000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is actually a thing though. In fact there are toilets that are designed to catch you poop on a shelf so you can examine it for signs of disease before you flush it.
Scottz0rz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:57:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how a relative found out he had tapeworms.
He confirmed it with his doctor, making the sensible choice to show a photo of the shit, instead of bringing it in a shoebox.
jimxster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was subtly dropping a hint that she likes anal.
BigAggie06 ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 03:32:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit...
Sigilus ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 03:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know the secretary said that as soon as she opened the box
donth8urm8 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:25:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what she said!
rumpleforeskin83 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:27:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฉ
CursesandMutterings ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:34:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER nurse here. One time I had a young woman come in who was concerned for vaginal bleeding/abdominal pain. She thought she might have had a miscarriage, so she collected some of the "specimen" and brought it with her, unbeknownst to me.
I walked into her room to introduce myself and she handed me the bag, and said, "Here. This came out of me."
I wish there was an appropriate gif for my reaction (I wasn't wearing gloves or anything).
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gosh. I am cracking up imagining a deadpanned "Oh, here. This came out of me." And the look on your face.
sevjac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*shudder
schmoobacca ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He must have eaten at P.F. Changs
PresidentDonaldChump ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:36:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many courics was it?
wayfar3r ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:34:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the first paragraph, laughed so hard I cried for a solid half minute. Read the second paragraph, repeated.
StrikerRX ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:43:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the makers of Dick in a box...
Ollie723 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the makers of The Cumbox now comes The Shitbox
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Step 1: take a shit.
Step 2: put it in a box.
It's a shit in a box!
Shit in a box, baby!
bedroom_fascist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:37:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I got you a little something."
chiguy191 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:39:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least it wasn't a shoebox diarrhea...those are the worst kinds of school projects!
superjentendo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:59:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A diarrhea-diorama! Diarrama?
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:24:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, don't vomit in a box. Even if it's the closest think to you when the urge suddenly strikes. You can ask me how I know but that should be obvious.
CountingMyDick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's my shit in a box!
cosmic_Alfarero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got quite a story for your children there, mate, I'll give you that.
Pyperina ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:25:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The complete lack of first person perspective in this comment makes me doubt its veracity.
sevjac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story is true, but to be honest I did not actually witness the taking of the turd box to the secretary's desk. But I definitely heard and then witnessed the shock of the package once reopened. Our best speculation was that the delivery/waste/custodial/etc personnel was the responsible party for moving it. ...but it certainly could be intra-office revenge and someone won't confess ..
Cwmcwm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He just wanted to know if he could take a dick that wide.
arenalr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously underrated story
tl7lmt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, that's great. Made me laugh out loud, mostly because I know a cranky gossipy old hag of a sec't I'd like to see that happen to.
cloud9ineteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha that ending
Richard7666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I'm in the minority, but my usual reaction to am overly large shit is "fuck, that's awesome"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like complete bullshit. No one would rummage around in a biohazard disposal bag.
sevjac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:49:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is my understanding that the box was placed on top of the biohazard bag or in the near proximity to it- I'll have to ask the MA the exact location
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh okay. Otherwise you might have to ask if he's even living
tinysideburns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for "Turd box."
curiousiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My only question: did he shit in the box (after getting the ol' "This is gonna be a big one" feeling) or did he fish it out of the toilet?
sevjac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha he stood up to look at it?/flush and then became concerned for his health and fished it out.
xkilllerkondorx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For as long as I live I'll never forget turd box
Fign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hahahahahahah...you sure it was not a revenge move by the waste guy.....
WarehouseToYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Secretary: THIS IS SHIT!
Waste guy: Tell me about it
KassellTheArgonian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
betcha waste guy was that guy and was getting back at you
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did the newspapers think it was a hate crime or something?
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Biohazard waste guy didn't consider checking whether potential biohazard was in fact a biohazard before setting it on the front desk in the middle of a hospital?
WAstateBreadskins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:43 on May 6, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The part about the package is fabricated. Otherwise that man would have lost his job immediately. Additionally, wouldn't a box with a huge turd in it smell horrendous?? Not to mention the fact that the box itself had been in contact with other biohazardous materials and if he had set it on a desk he would be contaminating said desk and putting persons at risk. I call bullshit.
xenopanties88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahahaha, this....this is my favorite.
preparationrach ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:39:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
R/bandnames
[deleted] ยท 13926 points ยท Posted at 19:02:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DrakeSparda ยท 8520 points ยท Posted at 19:16:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd blame your parents for that one.
freym ยท 4746 points ยท Posted at 22:30:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sex can lead to pregnancy and STDs so always wear protection. But oral won't at all, so suck as many dicks as you want! Just go crazy!"
Edit: I am completely aware you can get STDs from oral sex, you're not the first to reply with "actually..."
Edit2: Sweet, of course my highest rated comment is about sucking all of the dicks...
shizzamX ยท 889 points ยท Posted at 22:52:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I took sex ed they went over the types of sex like oral sex and just said that you can't get pregnant that way. They of course still warned that you can get STIs that way.
DrBBQ ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 00:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SWEET!
passwordsarehard_3 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 00:39:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you may have to suck a lot of dicks but that is a nice ride
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:23:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would result in some interesting introductions.
"Who's dick do I gotta suck around here to get an STI?"
iamr3d88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:30:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first thought. Then I remembered some people call stds stis
shizzamX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I could have put sti/std, I think they started saying sti for curable ailments (like gonorrhea,) where as stds are for life (like herpes)
ericisaac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They use to call it VD โ Venereal Disease.
Ben_zyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lot nicer than subscriber trunk dialing!
wuzzum ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:46:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I took sex Ed we didn't even go over sex :|
boobityskoobity ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah right? I didn't learn anything about sex either, I had to learn on my own as an adult. Stuff like, if you insert a finger and touch the girl's G-spot while you're licking her clitoris, she'll probably enjoy it more. None of my teacher's ever told me any of this.
GreatBabu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or The Shocker, I had to learn about that on a tshirt!
closerview ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:43:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly don't think they even mentioned that a penis goes in a vagina during my sex Ed course.
shizzamX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We actually took a trip to some amphitheater where some lady told us stuff and answered questions. I think they did this to get through it more quickly, about 1/3 of the whole grade/age group could go at a time.
Seralth ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562
You can total get preggers from oral sex! Just requires a knife to the gut :P
KuntaStillSingle ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there goes my fetish
Seralth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:25:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rip fetish.
FeatheredSun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:00:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tiny fetish funeral. Very tasteful.
WalkToTheGallows ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thatsmyfetish.jpg
Twyxxi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when I was working with this girl that was about a year younger than me (I was 20 at the time), and it was slow at work so we were just gossiping about whatever, when the topic of "flavored condoms" came up, and her response was, "I just don't understand why they exist." I, of course, just shrugged it off and said "for oral, duh". She then gave me this super patronizing look and went, "Ooooh, sweetie. You don't get pregnant from oral." It was then that I got the joy of explaining to her what an STD was.
shizzamX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well good on you for telling her!
_Pornosonic_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, what? Can u really? I had oral sex (getting a bj) without condom a ton of times and it never happened? Like, saliva doesn't carry hiv, does it?
shizzamX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:32:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From wiki "Infection with HIV occurs by the transfer ofย blood,ย semen,ย vaginal fluid,ย pre-ejaculate, orย breast milk." it's not carried by saliva so unless you have an abrasion of some sort on your dick I don't think you can get it, but if you have it, your partner will be infected.
GreatBabu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Not will. May. MAY. And the infection rate from oral (either way) is low. Very low.
shizzamX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, my mistake! I think even if the chance is low, it should be stressed that it can be transmitted. HIV isn't something to take any chances on.
Admobeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dated a girl whose father told her, "Suck it, Don't fuck it. You're too young to be pregnant. "
Win for me, she gave a great bj!
NotGloomp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:14:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you switched them there friendo.
Admobeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, indeed. thanks. Those late night posts are a dangerous.
SexyObliviousRhino ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:22:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I test samples for STIs
You would not believe how many people have STIs in their throat and in the bum holey
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahaha. One of my friends is a medical tech at a clinic, and the other day she had a patent with really really bad herpes on and inside their asshole.
Ouchh
TheKaiserIsWiser ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 23:53:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why sodomy was illegal.
dogGirl666 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:59:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was NOT why it was illegal. The link to throat cancer wasn't discovered until way into the 20th century.
Anyone that believes that that was why sodomy was illegal has been sold a bill of goods.
BTW Pretty much all abstinence-only sex education was filled with pseudoscience designed to keep kids from having sex. I hope that's not how you got the impression you have about sodomy.
TheKaiserIsWiser ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 00:07:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever considered that perhaps you have been sold the bill of goods? People weren't total nimrods prior to the 20th century, you know. And abstinence obviously doesn't work perfectly or there would be no bastards born out of wedlock. It exists to discourage it. Everyone knows that, but it's definitely a good thing for people to wait until they are married.
KokiriRapGod ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just your opinion though. I don't think you can prove for a fact that it's better for people to wait until they are married. Abstinence doesn't work because fucking is literally one of the most pleasurable experiences to have with someone else; we're genetically programmed to want to bang. A strategy that depends on everyone arresting their natural urges until they are married seems a lot weaker than one in which people can still have sex but have the tools to avoid "bastards out of wedlock".
TheKaiserIsWiser ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 00:36:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tools which are not guaranteed to work 100% of the time and which many consider to be immoral due to their religious beliefs. And people solve that problem by not waiting until they're well into their thirties to get married. Marriage isn't something that anyone should fear if you marry the right spouse.
Xamry14 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:01:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you want people to be in a rush to get married so they can finally get laid but expect them to still find 'the right one'?
TheKaiserIsWiser ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe stop making everything about getting laid? There's much more to life than sex, and I'd personally prefer a woman I love that I talk to and share my life with over an easy STD-ridden fucktoy personally, but maybe that's just me.
Xamry14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:32:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting laid isn't everything but it's still a strong drive. Plus how can you know if your compatible with someone sexually if you've never done it?
Its human nature. Just because you want sex doesn't mean that's all your after. You can love someone and still want to hop in the sack with them. Actually love would escalate those feelings. Problem is just because you love someone doesn't mean you can love with them forever.
Love isn't always enough. And it takes years to really learn a person sometimes. That's way too long to wait for most. So if they HAD to wait till marriage I guarantee people would rush the process. Maybe even without knowing the real reason but it would happen.
pleasehelpssll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abstinence isn't effective either cause of the virgin Mary and people still have sex despite abstinence cause their fucking teenagers so teach proper sex ed because abstinence doesn't work
Dont-Fear-The-Raeper ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:55:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a teenager, back in the 90s I worked in a video store. Co-workers were mostly teenage girls with a few 20-something managers.
One of the girls, 16, had just been to her first big party and after imbibing a few too many coolers, decided that she'd just suck dicks the rest of the night. She got through three and was chasing her fourth when her friends carted her away.
A bunch of my co-workers sat her down to have a talk about (as my gf put it) the importance of "being a lady".
Right at the end, one manager (25 or so) goes on to tell her, in complete seriousness, that she should also get a pregnancy test.
Two people learned something that day.
AndyGHK ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:29:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Five dicks, ten dicks, twenty dicks, as many as you want at a time!
WJ90 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:42:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We call it "middle out."
lllamma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoteupvoteupvoteiloveyou
Pamela-Handerson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy fucks
Vitztlampaehecatl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:49:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
37? in a row?
AndyGHK ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:53:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try not to suck any dick on the way through the parking lot!
vaiyach ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 22:55:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get STIs from oral sex though. Careful who you do the dirty with
infinitewowbagger ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:21:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throat cancer too. Good old HPV
AnthonyDeMartino ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:53:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It"s 2017, I hope people in high school are vaccinated for that already. Srsly.
carbonfiberx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:40:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, think again. Lots of school districts have effectively been barred from requiring HPV vaccines because kids' parents are afraid it'll make them think it's ok to have sex.
WolfPaws123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is ok to have sex.
carbonfiberx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't disagree, it's the parents that have the issue.
WolfPaws123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ )
freym ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This true.
defrgthzjukiloaqsw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in america where mouth herpes counts as an STD.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:59:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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smokeysevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On your dick or his?
weretomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
both
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:01 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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smokeysevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:13 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinky... I like it
Melting_Phoenix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:38:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's sad is this reminds me of a girl I knew who's mom told her to only have anal sex before marriage so she would still be a virgin...religious people can make up some crazy stuff.
gracefulwing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
37 of em
Dippy_Egg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoting sheerly on the basis of your second edit.
freym ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Much appreciated.
ArrantPariah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here. Have another upvote.
GearedCam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tagged as "Sucks All The Dicks"
Mega_Kevin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually... I won't be the last
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to upvote it some more to help it stay that way...
anon2u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote just because Edit 2 made me laugh.
freym ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Up vote because you up voted for that reason.
greenokapi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:07:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually...
freym ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn you
psychoacer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing anal isn't sex
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry for the spoilers, but isn't that how Kenny dies in South Park?
awesomo_prime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gobble, gobble, gobble, turkey.
Blackfyre2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get STDS from oral sex. They swab your thirst for Gonorrhea.
FeatheredSun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Swab your thirst! With Gatonorrheaid!
zzzthelastuser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
actually...
freym ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not even the first to post this.
therage500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mouth wide open, mouth wide open
Trey5169 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We all hunt for upvotes. But sometimes, you just have to realize that it's probably not worth it.
ExpFilm_Student ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
42 dicks!?!?
Slappah_Dah_Bass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
37! My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks!
surg3on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
try not to suck any dicks on the way to the car!
lolWireshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wing dad... eww...
All_Bonered_UP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think mine would, but it's not.
Slapperkitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhh yissss. All the dicks.
LarryCachaira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what drives me absofuckinglutly insane whenever I watch umm, er... sex videos and the guy is wearing a condom while he's penetrating the beautiful lass but as soon as he is ready to cum, condom gets removed, girl will graze the dick with her tongue while the guy jerks off, then guy ejaculates in girls mouth and she swallows the load whole... Why was there ever a condom?!?!?!
blortorbis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can suck all the dicks you want and still be a virgin, Mary.
LessLikeYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoting just cement your place in dick sucking history!
walrus01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
37 dicks?
PurpleBandit3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
37 dicks?
Disulfidebond007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reminds me of the old "anal isn't sex" routine...
SemicolonFetish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY ;)
77Zaxxonsynergy77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if....you suck a bag of dicks???!!!
Dodecabrohedron ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
stoked to learn that's your highest comment, valuable edit.
RedDeadRevengeance ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, if you suck all the dick you want without any reservations your mouth will get stuck dick shaped forever.
JohnathanTeatime ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:24:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't forget some cancers can be developed from oral sex
ArchiPelagius ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
37!?!
chochitos_raider ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:40:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaa, and thats why there are so many "MILF teaches daughter how to suck dick" videos ?
pepe_le_shoe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:04:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mommy, how are babies made?"
"Well, the lady puts the man's peepee in her mouth and..."
ShawarmaOrigins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:38:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. Her mom should have swallowed that load.
BritainsNuttiestGuy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:59:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn her parents for making her take birth control before/while/after sucking their dicks (both of them)
DrakeSparda ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:05:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if bad attempt at sarcasm here...
kayakkiniry ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:10:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha you're so nutty
evil_demon_hare ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:43:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh cum on.
Jeffbx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But if they tell kids about sex, they'll go and HAVE sex! The only way to protect the children is to not tell them anything about it.
DrakeSparda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or tell them if they do they will have all the babies and then have no lives.
hispeedzintarwebz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean...
fukitol- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When she was 12, sure. When she's 21, totally on her.
unwise_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That took a turn for the dark, I doubt her dad was involved...
KingOvHell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love how this can be interpreted different ways
kingeryck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the school
CruzaComplex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's where his sister came from.
devildocjames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broken arms
Handburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the lack of sex ed? I took 3 sex ed classes by the time I was 16. How is this still not a thing everywhere? Lots of parents will never talk to their children about this. that makes it easy to blame the parents for not educating children, but it's a perpetual cycle of uneducated kids having kids they cannot educate. When they become a public problem, isn't it something that needs to be available publicly?
rhymes_with_chicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, my daughter is 8 and we've already had that talk.
TheLurkingFish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Genetics is a bitch ain't it.
demenciacion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the days of widely available internet you can't blame parents for being ignorant
SailingPatrickSwayze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I applaud his parents for that one. So long as they also taught her vaginal sex would lead to twins, and that anal leads to triplets.
BiggerBangTheory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair. If mom had sucked more dick, the kids would have just ended up digested.
PM_me_yr_dicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, stereotypical parents are pretty sex negative.
RebootTheServer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i blame the father
RUNROBOTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blame? Dad's a hero.
tribble0001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Knew a girl that had given a guy a hand job. He shot his load over her hand and she ran off screaming about being pregnant.
HotTyre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's to prevent her from blowing her brother.
TheDerpofYork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah he should break his arms so his sister can watch and learn first hand that's not how it works.
Nakedguyinlockerroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:15 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the parents fault they're not a doctor
LimaBravo2375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:07 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldnt blame them Id commend them :D
Father of a girl here :D
fixnahole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't blame the parents for her dick sucking ways.
Larryjacob1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd congratulate them.
ezSpankOven ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:01:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a father who has a daughter, that's some god damned successful parenting right there!
runnertrish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:13:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parenting done right I'd say
iamtheowlman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:20:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they had to get her off his dick somehow.
angelofthemorning4 ยท 1869 points ยท Posted at 19:18:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend convinced of this as well. She was sure that the semen could enter the bloodstream from the stomach and get a person pregnant. We were in college.
KinseyH ยท 2265 points ยท Posted at 20:59:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While in college (early 80s) I had a roommate - brilliant, shy and sheltered Catholic girl who spent 12 years with nuns - who was horrified and appalled at the urban legends/stories about frat initiations involving sex with donkeys or goats or whatever animal would be involved depending on who told the story.
Not just because the animal might be injured but what if the poor thing got pregnant???
Note - this girl spoke 3 or 4 languages, had a ridiculously hight SAT score, and entered LSU as a junior.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1228 points ยท Posted at 22:41:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All those poor poor abandoned donkey-men! You see them everywhere! STOP THE HAZING!
ImNeworsomething ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 00:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...So serious question, is this the back story behind Danny Devito?
BatmanOnARaptor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:06:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No they usually go to Alabama
Wompuscat1965 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yepper I with you. WAR EAGLE!!!
MrManson99 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, he may be Froggy, but he ain't got donkey brains.
pm-me-ur-shlong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehhhh......
tpwwp1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:40:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He has an official document stating he doesn't have donkey brains
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He could still have donkey lungs or something, he never got a certificate for that.
tpwwp1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's true, although that would almost certainly have come up, as they were already discussing Frank being part donkey
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:58:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This could also explain the Pig Man Kramer spotted in the hospital on Seinfeld.
Shikra ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:54:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Sheep-Child
Farm boys wild to couple
With anything with soft-wooded trees
With mounds of earth mounds
Of pine straw will keep themselves off
Animals by legends of their own:
In the hay-tunnel dark
And dung of barns, they will
Say I have heard tell
That in a museum in Atlanta
Way back in a corner somewhere
There's this thing that's only half
Sheep like a woolly baby
Pickled in alcohol because
Those things can't live his eyes
Are open but you can't stand to look
I heard from somebody who ...
But this is now almost all
Gone. The boys have taken
Their own true wives in the city,
The sheep are safe in the west hill
Pasture but we who were born there
Still are not sure. Are we,
Because we remember, remembered
In the terrible dust of museums?
Merely with his eyes, the sheep-child may
Be saying saying
I am here, in my father's house.
I who am half of your world, came deeply
To my mother in the long grass
Of the west pasture, where she stood like moonlight
Listening for foxes. It was something like love
From another world that seized her
From behind, and she gave, not lifting her head
Out of dew, without ever looking, her best
Self to that great need. Turned loose, she dipped her face
Farther into the chill of the earth, and in a sound
Of sobbing of something stumbling
Away, began, as she must do,
To carry me. I woke, dying,
In the summer sun of the hillside, with my eyes
Far more than human. I saw for a blazing moment
The great grassy world from both sides,
Man and beast in the round of their need,
And the hill wind stirred in my wool,
My hoof and my hand clasped each other,
I ate my one meal
Of milk, and died
Staring. From dark grass I came straight
To my father's house, whose dust
Whirls up in the halls for no reason
When no one comes piling deep in a hellish mild corner,
And, through my immortal waters,
I meet the sun's grains eye
To eye, and they fail at my closet of glass.
Dead, I am most surely living
In the minds of farm boys: I am he who drives
Them like wolves from the hound bitch and calf
And from the chaste ewe in the wind.
They go into woods into bean fields they go
Deep into their known right hands. Dreaming of me,
They groan they wait they suffer
Themselves, they marry, they raise their kind.
blasto_blastocyst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was right purty.
Minguseyes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donkey man here, there are some ... advantages. Just saying I guarantee there is no problem.
hawkevent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're called centaurs!
ForeverPlayer2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:52:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how animal mascots are made.
Gibbothemediocre ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:07:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK resident here, we don't have donkey men, but we do have the Welsh!
Sam-Gunn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:31:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I can point out, you DO have some braying assholes in your government... But then again so do we...
Psychic_Joker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhh Pigly :/
BadBetting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh though religious schools shelter from sexual biology so she may have just assumed it would be a goat but be wierd.
hazelbuttnutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
STOP THE HAZING Go back to grazing
Stormwolf1O1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems as time goes on these donkey-men are becoming more and more accepted across the US. Recently, one of them was even elected president
NoThrowLikeAway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:04:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explains John Elway at least.
pcpoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope no one played with her by telling her the church has special homes for girls that have Tran species babies.
eric_saites ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's what they mean by "ass-man"
GiggityGiggidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:13:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, tell that theme park owner from Pinocchio this!
Ounceofwhiskey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, we elected one as President...
greffedufois ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you think discount centaurs come from?
dancingliondl ยท 472 points ยท Posted at 21:28:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Say no more.
[deleted] ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 22:30:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to say we were talking about DKE specifically but again, this was around 1983. So I could be wrong.
I can't remember the girl's name, but I'll never forget her. She was adorable.
wttk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, at that point there was only 3 words left to say...
VikingTeddy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:58:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Bring the donkey"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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IAmTheWaller67 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
3D the Donkey to prevent pregnancy, BRILLIANT!
Divides-By-Zer0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HEhaw HEhaw HEhaw!
hhd411wild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better than ASU.
jrragsda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CKS
ma2016 ยท -50 points ยท Posted at 22:26:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh piss off.
[deleted] ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 22:56:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sithsaber ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:21:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something something i live for football
hokiedokie18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno the ACC is looking better than the SEC right now, and we can spell our last names
geauxaudit ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:37:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What year was this? I too am an LSU grad and I think I may know who you are talking about actually.
lisalisasensei ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also went to LSU and don't know anything anyone's talking about...
KinseyH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
82/83. I want to say she went to an Ursaline school.
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 22:43:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
okay, that explains it
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:54:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dogGirl666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know the speed of ignorance? https://youtu.be/JTvcpdfGUtQ?t=8m50s
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:33:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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RustyKumquats ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:48:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...But not surprised.
EUW_Ceratius ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:25:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intelligence โ knowledge...
skittymcbatman ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:12:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intelligence โ Wisdom.
salbris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not so sure about that. While they are certainly not equal someone with greater intelligence will be quicker to turn experiences into wisdom and in some cases circumvent the need for wisdom.
Tossup434 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:48:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intelligence is for magic-users. Wisdom is for clerics.
Vitztlampaehecatl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking of charisma. -Sorcerer
mdistrukt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psh Charisma is for the Bard. Gotta be charming to convince people to bring your useless ass along
mysistersacretin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:58:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intelligence is knowing its a one way street. Wisdom is looking both ways anyway.
JtheE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:09:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My favourite is (slightly paraphrased) from Miles Kington: intelligenceย is knowing that aย tomatoย is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in aย fruit salad. :)
Mardoniush ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both is knowing there are sweet cherry tomato's that you can use in a fruit salad to add acidity and balance.
slaaitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Charisma is the ability to sell tomato-based fruit salad.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone tell the second half to Korea.
Vitztlampaehecatl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intelligence is knowing that the monster isn't Frankenstein. Wisdom is knowing that Frankenstein is the monster.
salbris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a nice cute phrase but it's just black and white. When I hear these phrases I get worried because people start to have this idea that intelligence is about knowing things where in reality it's about problem solving and being able to think logically rather than with your instinct or experience.
swim_swim_swim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. Knowledge is knowing it's a one way street. Intelligence is the ability to figure that out without being told. Wisdom is looking both ways anyway.
titsrgtfo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:53:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she only takes it in the butt, she's still a virgin
mittenista ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God can't see where the sun don't shine, so it's not a sin!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Years back at my work, I was in the employee cafeteria and just mindlessly watching TV while eating. There was a show on with a short bit about a dog and a deer that had made friends and wee frolicking together. This was not Disney, this was someone's actual dog that was being showcased.
Anyway, about two minutes into this, my boss-at-the-time pipes up that (all paraphrasing since I don't remember exact words) "It's all fun and games until they have a half-dog-half-deer baby."
Me - "what?"
Her - "You know if they have sex and make a baby."
Me - (giving the incredulous stare) "Dogs and Deer can't have babies together. They're entirely different animals."
Her - "Then why can Llamas and Alpacas? I saw a show where they had a baby."
Me - "Those are closely related animals. Dogs and Deer are nowhere near closely related enough!"
Something to that effect. Even when another coworker backed me up, she still wasn't fully convinced. Of course, this was the same person who once told me that she thought that most diseases were because of demon possession; I was really questioning how she got to her position with thoughts like that.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:15:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here for religious people things, wasn't disappointed.
onedoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is more a comment on her community.
Dreamcast3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if the animal were to, theoretically, become pregnant?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just cruel to the animal
KillerGoldfish10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good ole DKE
CashInPrison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was horrified....maybe she was just enthralled
mdlost1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to LSU. Totally believe it. Plus the TKE's totally screw goats. (Or so I've heard)
JunahCg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am so fucking curious what species she thought would pop out.
Yorkazunas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pinocchio was all about the donkey men. They never seemed to have a problem with it and it was just accepted...weird.
air__dingus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
entering LSU as a junior is like becoming a janitor with asthma
AverageJoe5555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This type of person is what we call a Republican.
Wompuscat1965 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LSU.. That Explains it. :O War Eagle!!!
Drew__Brees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes good ole Deke, the rumors never died.
BeegPahpi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you think Kick-Start got their PuppyMonkeyBaby from??
phil8248 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised. It is a common tale for Catholic girls to do anal to remain virgins till they marry. Must have attended a school where that wasn't a thing. Or no one told her.
CrudelyAnimated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't be Cajun. Please don't be Cajun. "...and entered LSU as a junior." Dammit.
ScoutsOut389 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, okay.
Mr_Gilmore_Jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kramer's pigman comes to mind.
lustywench99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sheltered Catholic girl here!
You know how when you first start your period it isn't very regular? Well, my mom took to my first period much like the mom in Carrie, so I didn't get much info, but she did give me a book that basically explained in 4 weeks you'll get it again or you may be pregnant.
4 weeks comes and goes and nothing happens. I keep waiting. Two months go by. I don't understand how I can be pregnant because I'm like 11 and have never had sex, but I assume that can still happen since it happened to the Virgin Mary soo...
I spent another few weeks praying to figure out how to tell my parents. I knew they'd be mad and I didn't know how to prove I hadn't done anything wrong. Thankfully in that time my period started. Because can you imagine me finally sucking it up and actually having a sit down to tell my parents I was pregnant like Mary? Holy shit balls.
Long story short, they need to explain more shit to Catholic kids about how this stuff works.
rondpompon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tulane grad here. I understand.
pandawand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean shes not wrong thats stuff does happen the girl or the animal just dosnt get pregnant lol
jedi168 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It had to be LSU. Sounds like some one I might have met.
SchrodingersCatGIFs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LSU! LSU! LSU!
TheMightyGoatMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happens more than you might think.
Budge-O-Matic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Catholic school in a conservative midwest suburb in the late 80s-early 90s.
We were given sex ed at 6th grade. We were never introduced to stupid ideas so we never thought a human could get an animal pregnant.
zephyer19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recall reading an article about how they gave various groups of people a sex education test. It was a bit surprising how some of the best educated people and even had kids were kind of ignorant on a lot of sex issues. Including nurses, doctors, etc.
MATHLOVER47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not surprising considering she went to LSU
tehaxor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of these things is not like the others.
fritopie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes... good ole Louisiana.
MrKrinkle151 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, graduating high school a year early isn't a mark of a genius or anything. Nor is getting into LSU...
TXAGXIV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"entered LSU" There's the problem right there
BarrelRoll1996 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
amazing how googling helps stop this level of ignorance
adevilnguyen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LSU... makes sense
Januskb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
du er en luder
Babayaga20000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off topic but having a high SAT score literally means nothing in terms of actual applicable intelligence
Tolkien5045 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, oh DIK
therealjz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LSU... lol surprised this didn't happen at Tech up in Ruston...
lolhuhhhhhh ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does that have to do with anything?
Edit: The answer is nothing. So she had all those amazing accomplishments and all she got was a spot next to you. lmao
DirtyOldAussie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:56:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I recall correctly, there was one documented case of a pregnancy after a blow job. Shorty after swallowing she had been stabbed with a knife that perforated her stomach, and the sperm were able to enter the peritoneal cavity and swim down a Fallopian tube.
Edit: Should have scrolled down further...
Knofbath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in that one weird case where the girl got stabbed in the stomach.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562
mynameisalso ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm lucky I didn't have a chicken from eating that egg
walter-melon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are ways, my friend. Might not be something for anyone to actively worry about, but there are ways.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3191066
superthighheater3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something like that could happen...
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562
Gnostromo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing people can be so ignorant yet still get high enough grades to college.
PM_ME_PICS_OF_HANDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some straight A students I know are very unfamiliar with all sexual-related things. Being ignorant about sex doesn't mean that they are stupid/boring/not supposed to enter college.
Gnostromo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, maybe not. But what it does mean is they are way being in being educated.
PM_ME_PICS_OF_HANDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They might be very well educated in all other areas, which makes the issue even sadder.
Madmagican- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me, one of my suitemates last year had a girl over and asked her for a blowjob. She agreed, but only if he put on a condom first
Of course, being the typical horndog you'd expect as a freshman fratboy. He got his dick sucked with a condom on. No way either party enjoyed it but he bragged about it the next morning
thenearlywitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally two days ago a friend told me that one of our old classmates thought she might be pregnant after making out. She's 21.
Scrappy_Larue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You tell her no. Even Miss Manners says, "Swallow away."
akjoltoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as if it works like a virus... lol
SourNotesRockHardAbs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it actually did enter the blood stream, it still wouldn't get you pregnant.
Lovett49 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my gf's college roomie seriously thought she could get pregnant from anal. damn holy rollers
OKImHere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can, on account of the...sloppiness... of the activity. Not all that rare.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not entirely wrong, although cases like this happens indirectly.
dot-pixis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why a Bachelor's is worthless in the job market
dblthnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think that would work if she was a bedbug, and they get stab raped.
oj449 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a case of someone getting pregnant through oral, but it was due to being stabbed some time after in such a way her stomach lining was punctured and leaked into her uterus
fewdea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She would have to get stabbed by her ex first
PM_ME_YR_O_FACE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lost count of the misconceptions.
earthlybeets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take it she wasn't a flatworm.
pink-pink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but what did happen once, was right after the blowjob her pissed boyfriend came in and saw her with the other guy and stabbed her, and the semen made its way through the stab wounds
and to top it off, she had to have a c-section because she didn't have a vagina due to some kind of birth defect.
sophie-marie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:33:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I promise I'm not a troll, but this is "technically" possible. I was reading about this rare occurrence where a woman was born with a defect where she didn't have a vagina (but had all the stuff inside) and she became pregnant from oral sex. How the doctor's talked about it, they think there was an opening in some lining or something where the sperm travelled through.
Anyway yeah...there's that antidote! lol
Yurei2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:43:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why democracy is a terrible idea. People that dumb and uninformed get to vote...
nreshackleford ยท 2953 points ยท Posted at 19:33:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly off topic, but there is at least one case of a girl getting pregnant from sucking dick...but before you think I'm bat shit, just read the article. Basically, the girl gave oral sex, was subsequently stabbed, and the stab wound allowed the semen to go from her GI tract into the uterus. I was only able to find a Discover Magazine blog post, but I recall reading the medical journal article when this story first hit reddit.
EDIT: I forgot the best part; the girl didn't have a vaginal opening.
johnwalkersbeard ยท 3332 points ยท Posted at 20:11:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Your mom shoulda swallowed you!!"
"She .... she did!"
:, (
Fist_City_86 ยท 850 points ยท Posted at 01:14:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter was conceived during anal sex. Of course, it was because semen dripped into my vagina, but sometimes we joke about our butt baby.
TheBananaKing ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 03:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course you can get pregnant from anal. Where did you think lawyers come from?
10018_throwaway ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 04:05:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"IANAL"
ricecracker420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow, I finally understand this acronym
FilibusterMcGee ยท 253 points ยท Posted at 03:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Butt baby, O Butt Baby
Your folks were in a rut, baby
So mom whispered some smut, baby
Into your father's ear
And though it may seem crude, Baby
I pray, don't be a prude, Baby
The next time they got nude, Baby
They did it in the rear
Before a month had passed, Baby
Your mother thought, aghast, "Maybe..."
The lesson for the class, Baby
Becoming crystal clear
Regardless what you've heard, Baby
Precaution is the word, Baby
Or you might have a turd Baby
'Cause that's how you got here
10018_throwaway ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 04:04:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/Poem_for_your_sprog, watch the throne.
WhatsThatSkaSong ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is more like a song than a poem!
ProbablyMyRealName ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:41:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most underrated comment I've seen today.
WiFiForeheadWrinkles ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:11:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the first line to the tune of O Christmas Tree
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not but since you mentioned it I reread it that way. Nice.
SheeEttin ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:16:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are some strong swimmers.
reddittwotimes ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 03:34:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people ever respond with "Maybe it wouldn't have dripped back out if you weren't so full of shit."?
DentRandomDent ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 01:26:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a thread of somewhat crude replies this one feels particularly tmi...
PornElemental ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 01:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself. I'm going with "Not Enough Information."
[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 02:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username
Boner_Elemental ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:11:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like I found the right comment chain.
PMme_UR_DRTY_ASSHOLE ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are the 'roids I'm looking for.
greatjl ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:47:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All we have to do is hit that small exhaust port on the backside....
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I demand video evidence
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell more information?
SuckaXXXX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:59:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is beautiful.
fleetwell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's gonna love hearing that story at her wedding.
BacardiWhiteRum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea that's how my brother got pregnant
Andrei_Vlasov ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit!
El_Q ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:16:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wat
2muchcontext ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure your
wifehusband just isn't as loyal as you think?Yosafbrige ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 03:31:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you miss the term "my" vagina?
2muchcontext ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:34:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did indeed. I edited the comment so the joke makes more sense now.
SurreptitiousSyrup ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 05:08:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It makes even less now
jonosaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:57:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
truly terrible thinking, at every stage. Awful excuse for a joke.
BlerptheDamnCookie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The husband has sex with another woman and the wife gets pregnant? Wth? Fetus transfer is not a thing.
Get some sleep.
VampireSurgeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Splash conception really needs to be discussed more.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a shitty joke tho
closefamilyties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally a shitwipe
DrunkenPrayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I completely mis-read that post the first time around and had to go back to make sure I was reading it right. Thank god.
Jacobjs93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's how you explained her being brown?
crtjer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the term is drip baby
eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is a a lawyer or politician? Both are conceived exclusively through anal sex.
xxNightxTrainxx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:48:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, I understand it dripping down there, but isn't it really hard for semen to climb that high up without assistance?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:05:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a pregnancy scare, but my boyfriend refused to believe that his semen could have dripped on down. I immediately felt when it happened and told him that I was worried....2 months later, no period. I told him I was worried, and he was all "nope, not possible"
I, thankfully, did not get pregnant, but it's good to know that someone can validate those damn worries.
soverytrinity ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 20:50:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was beautiful.
Giagotos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reading this just makes life weirder, when you really think about how we got here :/
MercenaryOfTroy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is gold.
19anddirty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not really possible
johnwalkersbeard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I've met several women who swallow
pornonX ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/vore
McIgglyTuffMuffin ยท 1040 points ยท Posted at 20:54:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, what?
invertedspear ยท 965 points ยท Posted at 21:11:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading the article. The pregnancy went undiagnosed for a long time because of this fact. Simple birth defect, happens more often than you would think. But because she couldn't have intercourse the doctors thought it was complications from the stabbing.
AlbinoMetroid ยท 1768 points ยท Posted at 22:54:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, the pregnancy was a result of complications from the stabbing.
bradorsomething ยท 316 points ยท Posted at 00:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A prick from some prick did the work of the dick.
the_incredible_hawk ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:35:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you considered a career as a new Dr. Seuss for our dark, horrible age?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you stab someone enough times and hard enough to puncture their gut and their uterus, you did a little more than "prick them" (in the non-Shakespearian sense of that word).
Of course it could have been anal sex and a single hard stab to the lower abdomen that did the trick. In fact, that's what I would suspect given the digestive nature of the upper GI tract (I have a really hard time believing that viable sperm could make it half way through the upper gut.
guto8797 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With a knife actually
cloud3321 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:01:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean to say the stabber, instead of using a dick, used a knife to get the girl pregnant! O.o
Yeah, that does not sound well with context or without.
bradorsomething ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it wasn't whitherspoon.
sanicho3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gem of a comment
Problem119V-0800 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A jab of a dirk did the job of the pork.
havereddit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh My God...have an upvote.
Langly- ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stabber should be the one to pay child support then.
Siphon1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:48:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So she got pregnant without a vag opening. I wonder would happen when the baby was ready to be born and they never knew it was a pregnancy. Like what if a c section wasn't a thing all we knew were vagibal births.
AlbinoMetroid ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:56:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, but I can only imagine it's similar to what the Kool Aid Man does.
damnisuckatreddit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:36:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would probably die of malnutrition and then rot inside the mother causing her to go septic and die also.
creggieb ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
comf_numb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you Bureaucrat Conrad
Koolaidguy541 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a matter of fact, I dont know how much more complicated it could have gotten.
LevelSevenLaserLotus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... I mean... ok.
skitech ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a hell of a complication.......
green0207 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...and the dick-sucking.
MagicHamsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, those back-alley Doctors are getting really complex.
10018_throwaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pon de floor!
Budge-O-Matic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I stabbed you first:
https://youtu.be/wBR78oj-PSs
JohnathanTeatime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
both kinds of stabbing
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't they all?
Toasted-Golden ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:10:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: Ugh...I really need to read articles before posting. Article beat me to my attempted humor.
ulvain ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:24:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds exactly like a House episode
JennifersBodyIssues ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:15:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how would she have a period and be able to make a baby?
lunchesandbentos ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 22:40:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having a period, ovulating, and maintaining a pregnancy is controlled by hormones that our bodies produce--certain pieces are less important than others.
I got my fallopian tubes removed after our second child. They only deliver the sperm to the egg and then the fertilized cells to the uterus. If I really want another one, I can still get pregnant through IVF because they don't need my tubes (they would take a needle and retrieve the eggs from the mature follicles in my ovaries, fertilize them, then stick them into my uterus.) So just think of the vagina like a big fallopian tube. As long as you have pieces needed for incubation, you technically don't need anything else as long as you can deliver the fertilized cells into the incubator (uterus.)
swohio ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:11:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he was asking because he is under the impression that a woman's cycle is the uterus creating the necessary environment for implantation, then cleaning itself out and recreating the proper environment again. If she didn't have a cycle, wouldn't that lend to an environment that would be less suitable for pregnancy?
CapWasRight ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Direct quote from the article we're discussing:
"It is likely that the patient became pregnant with her first or nearly first ovulation otherwise one would expect that inspissated blood in the uterus and salpinges would have made fertilization difficult."
AdamG3691 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I misread that as "saplings" and was very confused for a moment...
ViKomprenas ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:36:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saplings would also make fertilization difficult, to be fair.
AdamG3691 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"so dude tell us, does she, y'know, trim the bush?"
"Yeah, and her saplings are very nicely pruned too"
"Wait, what?"
JennifersBodyIssues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is what I meant thank you. I didn't get around to reading the article yet.
superzenki ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:10:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your username is perfect
trilobot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:23:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I wanna know is how on fucking Earth a uterus with a severe stab wound is going to successfully implant an ovum.
Your question is a really good one (and part of the reason I'm convinced this is a made up story and I mention it all in this comment), but I think the overlooking of a stab wound that horrendously severe is the bigger problem.
JennifersBodyIssues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think in the article it mentions her getting stabbed in the upper abdomen/stomach. Not sure if that makes a difference to you.
trilobot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does. The uterus is pretty much where the bladder is.
Imagine a stab wound that goes from just under your ribs to your pelvis. You'd need a sword, not a knife.
Do you think you'll survive this in a third world country?
haloraptor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:26:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Female anatomy is quite complicated down there, there's various different bits and pieces that go together to form a set. One piece can be missing or defective or something like that, but the other parts still work fine. Think of the vagina as like an access shaft for the penis to get closer to where the magic happens. Sometimes you can't get a penis in there, but other processes can still occur (like periods).
(Note that the penis itself is like a cannon that shoots the useful stuff from somewhere else into the useful place, so the vagina is like the inverse of that)
Imagine a penile defect where you can't get an erection, but everything else still works. This is not that, but does the analogy help at least?
Run_bish_ruuun ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
N... not really? (Although I appreciate the effort you put into it.) Wouldn't it be more like a penis with no urethral opening?
haloraptor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:09:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was the idea that was important, not the anatomical accuracy of the analogy. The impediment to reproduction was not in the back-end, it was in the interface mechanism. I suppose if you wanted to get more accurate you could have a narrow urethra, but I wanted something that prevented vaginal intercourse.
Run_bish_ruuun ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:40:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. The way I was looking at it was no vaginal opening=no penis getting in/period getting out. No urethral opening=no ejaculate getting out.
Well. This has been a discussion I never thought I'd have...
falble ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:38:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No? She would still have a urethral opening. I'm not really sure how she would shed uterine lining though, since the article said she just had a dimple there.
Run_bish_ruuun ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:53:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant in reference to the analogy presented above.
Saying exactly what you are, no urethra for a man is a more apt analogy than the inability to achieve an erection.
Run_bish_ruuun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I think u/lunchesandbentos answered in a way that gels with what you're saying! Sorry, haha I just didn't get the analogy.
ericisaac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't almost all pregnancies the result of complications from a stabbing?
curiousiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like an episode of House.
badrussiandriver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was something similar during the American Civil War; female bystander was hit by shrapnel, became pregnant. Since there were no men/proven(?)virgin, nun, or whatever, doctors realized that the bullet that had struck her abdomen had first struck a soldier's testicle. Bullet had sperm, sperm hit female, 9 months later Sadie's got a lot of 'splainin' to do. I read this in some historical Civil War magazine decades ago so I don't know if this was a fable or an actual occurrence.
sortaindignantdragon ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:41:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mythbusters did test that one and couldn't get the sperm to stay alive on the bullet.
Oh the things we do for science.
badrussiandriver ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:02:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dave, you ready? Got the magazines, lotion, and bullets? Need some privacy? Terrell, you got the gun ready? Okay, Dave, Terrell, let us know when you guys are uh, ready..."
Luvagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep it sounds like Sadie's very creative 'virgin mary' story.
OctopusEyes ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:56:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah there's no way that's feasible.
LionsDragon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:18:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Debunked, I guess--although the version of story I heard said she later met and married that same soldier.
There's no way that wouldn't be an awkward conversation.
VaultedCielings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah... she didn't want to admit she was fucking around...
cycle_schumacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck. Is this the literally biggest coincidence of human history?
I_make_things ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean...I guess more than 'never' is more than I would think.
Ethost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can... can they not fix it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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invertedspear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor and it was months of not years ago this article was in the news, but, from memory, she had all the other parts. Either she was young and this was literally her first cycle, or the body was reabsorbing the mensus. I think it was the latter
mysticmusti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And nobody figured this birth defect might be good to fix before she grows old enough to start giving out oral sex?
PresidentDonaldChump ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Life finds a way.
PhilosopherFLX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna say she must have been living under a tremendous umbrella of happenstance. Swallows. Stabbed. No Uterine Opening. I mean each of those is 1 in a million.
AtomicWalrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, wait, wait. She didn't have a vaginal opening, but was also able to become pregnant. Would she still menstruate if she was able to have a baby? Where would it go though? I'm sure it's obvious, but I'm not exactly an expert on the female body, so can someone explain this to me?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:01 on June 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She'd poop it out
RolandTheJabberwocky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck that's some crazy odds for all of that to happen.
croccrazy98 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:07:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He said the girl didn't have a vaginal opening
thiney49 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess we solved the case of the Virgin birth?
mzyos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like an imperforate hymen. Every so often I get patients (young teenagers) in severe abdominal pain, which gets worse with each month but with no periods. In these cases they have a hymen (membrane of skin around the opening of the vagina that is tightly shut, and usually bulging from the pressure of all the menstrual blood contained. You take them to theatre and open it up releasing all the blood and letting the menstruate normally.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
life, uh, finds a way
LukaCola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't they like... Surgically add one? I feel like most women would want that, but I dunno I guess.
ParlorSoldier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, is there a gofundme or something? Can we get this woman a vagina please?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He buried the lede. She buried the load.
jmurphy42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the whole reason they knew she had to have become pregnant that way. It was the only possibility.
JoeyTwoTones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He/she said, "I forgot the best part; the girl didn't have a vaginal opening."
mlmd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually create an opening so a woman can have her period. So if there was no opening and one wasn't created she for some reason wasn't having her period to begin with and thus would not be able to conceive
REDDlTverified ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea what he said...
Admiralkio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people are born with a uterus, but no vagina. They are separate.
worldofsmut ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happens a lot to married women.
palebluedoll ยท 246 points ยท Posted at 20:30:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... what? She didn't have a vaginal opening?
hedgehiggle ยท 558 points ยท Posted at 20:46:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's not really an "oops, forgot to mention" fact. Wtf.
Islero47 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that you know this story you'll be amazed how often you relate it (btw, find a source to link). Eventually you'll be in disbelief that you're the only person to know the story, you've told it so many times, and you'll forget that she had no vaginal opening.
Happens to the best of us.
ForgeTheSkies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I told my ex-wife.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:48:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She 18 yet
KCL40mVal ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:24:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's a rare condition. i think it's called "maier-rockytanski-kรผster-hauser syndrome".
darcy_clay ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:58:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think. ... sounds like something you're pretty sure of.
Or it's a joke I'm whooshing on.
toastofthedeathknell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:44:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, it's real
LionsDragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is indeed. My mom had an employee many years ago with the same birth defect. She waited to have the surgery until she was engaged to be married.
toastofthedeathknell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:22:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maier-rockytanski-kรผster-hauser syndrome is something scary, if I have a daughter, I hope she doesn't have it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the odds are in your favor for that one bud
Dont-Fear-The-Raeper ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:02:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can live without googling that, but I really wanna know, is it like when a hymen is too strong, or are there no lady parts on the outside?
What I'm trying to say, is it correctable for them?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, it's just like having your taint go all the way up with nothing Inbetween, they piss out their belly button
DrSuviel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw the "hauser" in there and thought of Doogie Howser, figuring maybe they were all fictional doctors. But nope, that's really what the condition is called.
jjy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, this was most likely due to female genital mutilation, considering that the report is from Lesotho in 1987. It's probably not MayerโRokitanskyโKรผsterโHauser syndrome because the report states that the uterus is normal, whereas in MRKH, the uterus would be missing if the vagina didn't develop.
yeh-nah-yeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
birth defect.
sockalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nature, uhh.. finds a way
X-espia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So how did she have the baby with no vagina?
linny93 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:16:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C-section
Michaelbama ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing it's not what it sounds like. like she had a vagina, but there was no way to... Get up in there, past a certain distance.
She had to of been able to piss her whole life
watchmedisappear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:59:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you do know girls dont pee out of their vagina......donโt you?
Michaelbama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit sherlock, but I'm assuming most people in here are talking about it like they're assuming the girl was like 100% sealed up down there.
[deleted] ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 20:53:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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JiReilly ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 21:13:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a feeling you're male.
wipeout4wh ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 00:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a feeling you're female.
Edit: Thanks for proving the double standard, guys. My suspicions that this would be downvoted were correct, yet the other one is upvoted.
Calisto823 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. What are we feeling and how long is the line?
LukaCola ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:04:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For whatever woman is in your life, the clit. Just the clit can go a lot farther than any sex.
stationhollow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...the same way most chicks do?
scrotesmcgaha ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:07:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How tight?
youngtundra777 ยท -22 points ยท Posted at 21:39:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks to female genital mutilation
[deleted] ยท 179 points ยท Posted at 19:45:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lunchesandbentos ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 20:08:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, I mean it might have been her only chance at becoming a mom?
Globebar ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 20:26:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Without a vagina opening that would still not be the greatest of news.
Angry_Magpie ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 20:54:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cesarean sections are a thing though.
Globebar ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 21:01:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, just keep the stabwound open.
JennifersBodyIssues ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:13:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear god.
PM_Me_Your_Bootybuns ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:29:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/JesusChristReddit
AdamG3691 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:27:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"rather than healing your stab wound, we attached a zipper... you'll thank us later... don't look at me like that, if it were up to Bill over there, you'd have got velcro!"
Weylyn_Ausiroth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just making me think of an Alien birth scene...
CaptnKnots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/jesuschristreddit
extinctzebras ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:34:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's concerning me here is that you have to be able to menstruate to have a baby, right? If she had no opening, where was all her unused uterine lining going?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:47:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe people with this condition may sometimes have a very small opening that allows for passage of the uterine lining.
I'm also not sure about this girl's exact diagnosis, but here is a page on Mayer-Rokitansky-Kuster-Hauser Syndrome (what a name!) which causes missing or malformed female reproductive organs.
skittymcbatman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being able to menstruate โ being able to have a baby.
Can have all the PMS you want and still be infertile. Such is life. :(
extinctzebras ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, right. I actually have a similar problem, so my condolences (if it's something affecting you as well). My point was that in order to have a baby, at least one factor is a fresh lining in the uterus. So I was wondering, well, basically how that would work...?
skittymcbatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I ... am too afraid to ask doc questions about my fertility (am only 24, not ready for babies) - but I was having hella pms and have the orangutan gene :(
Perhaps the fresh lining isn't being shed, but re-absorbed? sounds nice, actually.
lunchesandbentos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sometimes happens in farm animals--I read a case study of a vet going to check a female pig's temperature, and after rummaging around in the dark, found that the pig had no anus. Turns out the anus was located in the vagina and it was passing poo in that way.
It can happen the other way around (vagina inside anus) as well.
Angry_Magpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is true actually. I think there's probably more to it than we've been told, otherwise it doesn't quite add up.
delicious_tomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok negative Nelly
Narfff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C-section
[deleted] ยท 254 points ยท Posted at 20:11:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:18:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why would anyone want to do such a horrible thing
bluescape ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:15:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was actually a bedbug?
PM_ME_YER_BREASTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment is way too underrated.
inyuez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:13:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To have kids
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:14:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ew
TheAddiction2 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:35:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
inyuez ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because some people like having kids
BlueberryPhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask your mom?
Raknarg ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I go through my life and die without raising a child I will be quite sad
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Dantonn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:56:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your cars are shitting anywhere, I think you should call your mechanic.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐WHAT ๐๐ฟIF MY MECHANIC๐ฉ๐ฟโ๐๐ฉ๐ฟโ๐BE SHITTIN๐ ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐กALL OVER FAM?๐ค๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฆ
Raknarg ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:02:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want to raise a human that has my genetics and try to make it better than I ever was, and see where this ridiculous thing called life takes them, to see their mistakes and their achievements, see how they're like me and how they become their own individual. That will offer more satisfaction than any number of cars could ever offer.
I grew up poor, and I've experienced wealthy. Money is the least important thing in this world.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Raknarg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to each their own. Good luck.
singularineet ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was an accident, she got between two guys fighting (over her) in a bar.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:45:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant why would anyone want to have kids
singularineet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's genetic. Most people who want children are descended from a long line of ancestor who all had children.
sammyjack0891 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically it IS a form of penetration, soo....
ILickAnalBood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swallowed .Ok now stab me
TyrosineJim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:06:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The two families stopped feuding, traded some goats and now the couple are married.
Edit, they built an new vagina.
Edit; I have the research paper somewhere from back in college.
Edit; Here it is http://img2.timg.co.il/CommunaFiles/21227065.pdf
5up3rK4m16uru ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 20:14:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious if this was the first time this happened - or if it happened before, but with a functional vagina, so no one noticed or believed the woman.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:07:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TrivialBudgie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Joseph you just stabbed me!" "Oh sorry babe, got a bit caught up in the moment." "Heck, I'm bleeding everywhere. Ow ow ow... OMG can you see that anGEl!?ยฟยก!?ยฟ!?" "Mary, you're hallucinating, it's the pain. Hold this against the wound..." "HELLO ANGEL" "Mary, hold still," "Jo! Did you hear the angel? He said I'm going to have a BAbY!" "I doubt that..." "I'm going to call it JESuS!" "Okay love... careful, CAREFUL of the cut;; you're going to get -- too late."
FireLucid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is the civil war story. Some guy got shot through the nuts and then into a woman and made her pregnant. Mythbusters 'tested' that.
Jess_than_three ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, first you have to look likely it is for a torso stab wound to be angled in that way - which has to be obscenely low. Then you have to look at the chance that it would occur, in that scenario - which is probably not high. Then you have to look at the frequency of a woman giving a guy a blowjob, swallowing, and then being stabbed in the torso pretty much immediately - which I can't imagine is anything more than ridiculously uncommon.
Multiply that all out, and I wouldn't be surprised if this was the first time. At the very least, it must be just incredibly rare.
Reasonabullshit ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:50:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like a good plot for the virgin birth.
diggexpat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:04:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Without any sources, I'm calling bullshit on that article.
barbecue_invader ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Traumatic insemination like this happens routinely among certain species of animals (as though you needed another reason to despise bedbugs).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The penis of the bean weevil is pretty frighting. Although it might make a cool tattoo.
well_known_bastard ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:34:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what kind of physco stabs a girl that sucks dick?
Eimrin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One that gets it all the way in.
This_is_a_burner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was her name Mary?
kingkong381 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... what? Is this a thing? That some women are born without vaginas?
QuasarSandwich ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:58:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at Caitlyn Jenner.
kingkong381 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Transgender is not what I mean, but women (as in XX chromosomes, no gender reassignment) sometimes not having a vagina? I've never heard of that one.
QuasarSandwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Human bodies are incredibly varied even when not "deformed". Abnormalities like that, whilst rare, are to be expected in a population as vast as that of Homo sapiens sapiens.
Sethmeisterg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The trifecta!
ancient_memes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, she was 15 and was stabbed during a fight between her current boyfriend and an ex, while working at a bar.
ukhoneybee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Crikey, that story was from years ago. Good memory.
CJL13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's how Jesus was born.
Offler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Life uh... finds a way.
on_my_lunch_break ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This has always been one of my favorite examples of weird one-in-a-billion shit. It baffles me every time.
illonlyusethisonceok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of weird.
pumpkinrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's amazing.
xchiefchokeaho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is insane
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did a stab wound in the uterus not prevent pregnancy
45_DME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's the best thing, this is a close second.
AgitatingMyDots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was one hell of a night!
GunsGermsAndSteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Life, uhh, finds a way.
mynameisalso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow she got bed bug pregnant
ywu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading the article.
rustyshackleford193 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Semen surviving the stomach?
Doubt.jpg
69this ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like swimming. Wait 30min after eating to get in the pool. Well in this case it's wait 30min after swallowing a load to get stabbed.
nathandonoghue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHOA I JUST HEARD THIS STORY YESTERDAY IN A TED TALK! WOW WHAT ARE THE ODDS! BAADER MEINHOF PHENOMENON
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joe Rogan using this story as an example of Christ and immaculate conception being possible is pretty gold!
rqadri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kudos to the guy for having vigorous sperm training camps. That sperm deserves an award for what it accomplished.
sophie-marie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally just spent the last 5 minutes recounting the same thing! I should have just scrolled down! lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If Lesotho doesn't keep reliable records, I'll eat my hat!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she didn't have a vaginal opening but still ovulated, how did she menstruate?
ulalumelenore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one having some trouble with the "cattle exchanged hands" bit at the end there?
CWSwapigans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No vaginal opening, gives BJs instead. I wonder if she's available for marriage.
pukesonyourshoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DIY IVF
MagosBiologis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm honestly impressed that nowadays someone can take a gut wound with stomach perforation, a fatal injury in pre-modern times, and get discharged in 10 days.
HansumJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a species of insect that would think this was completely normal.
Males have sharp penises, and just stab the females in the abdomen with them.
lnah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When getting stabbed isn't the worst thing that can happen to you
ToIA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Such a peculiar circumstance. On one hand, it'd be a once in a lifetime shot to have your own baby. Like, what a story!
But on the other hand...that story.
ForceBlade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a retarded article
HerrStraub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading about a paternity law suit years ago where the guy said there was no way it could be his baby, they'd never had sex.
Chick blew him, saved it, used it to impregnate herself.
NotablyConventional ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Life... finds a way.
_PM_ME_GFUR_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is just too absurd. A fertilization through stabbing wasn't improbable enough, it had to happen to someone who couldn't have gotten pregnant normally, and to coincide with her very first ovulation... I'm torn between "this can't be real" and "you can't make this up".
doesntgeddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thought your comment was going to be about this story at first.
Tl;dr: Female doctor has oral sex with male doctor then proceeds to store his sperm in her mouth and later inseminates herself with it. Two years later she sues the male doctor for child support and actually wins. Crazy story.
trilobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My science senses were tingling about this. A lot of it seems fishy to me.
For one, Muellerian agensis (a member of my family has that condition!) is not something that easily goes by undiagonsed, and often results in a lack of a uterus as well. It is not the only way to have a "sealed shut vagina" however.
But if the uterus is ticking away as per normal, it'll result in having periods. All that uterine fun has to go somewhere, and if it doesn't, it can <A> be a hazard to the girl or <B> prevent pregnancy from happening at all.
Now it was mentioned that the patient may have been on her first or close to first ever period.
So here's the lineup of events that gotta happen. A young girl (probably, some girls get their periods quite late but that's not enormously common either so I'm trying to be generous with my sequence of improbably events!)
As I said, a young girl who's not yet had her period is busy blowing guys. Or at least one. This is possible, but a tad unlikely as she's probably quite young.
Then, said girl, has to get stabbed. With a knife. Who stabs little girls? Some people do, but the vast majority of stabbing victims are not hapless children. No real need to stab a child for any reason other than crazy person murder time (you don't kill a child for their wallet, you kill them because you've got PTSD or something and you know them personally). This again is an unlikely situation.
Then the jizz in her gullet has to survive the GI tract. Not just the stomach, but all the blood as well. It doesn't take much pH imbalance to kill sperm, and saliva dissolves quickly in chyme and blood, so ... them spermies are all gonna die. Nevermind the temperature change. Sperm would not last alive inside the stomach for long. especially if you drank water after, and who doesn't get a sip of water after a load is blown in their mouth?
Then they have to find their way into the uterus, which must also have been stabbed. Either the wound is severe enough to open the stomach and the uterus, or the wound is low enough that it penetrated the intestine and the uterus, or the weapon was a sword and not a knife and the wound, at the right angle, was deep enough to penetrate the stomach and the uterus. Good fucking luck surviving that in ... where was this? Lesotho in the 70s?! HA! Good fucking luck indeed!
Then those acid attacked spermies gotta book it from one wound to the next, through the vast chasm of the abdominal cavity, without getting lost (remind you they have no brains and cannot tell they're lost).
Then they gotta hit an intact and not damaged in any way uterus that's ovulating for the first time ever and fertilize the egg (an no, it does not "just take one" it takes a whole fucking lot of them because they gotta break through the egg's barrier by suicide bombing it until one finally makes it through).
So recap.
Young girl, still playing hopscotch.
Blows a dude (may not be consensually but for the sake of my sanity I'll hope it was).
Within the hour gets stabbed with a wound severe enough to penetrate gut and womb yet not severe enough to kill her.
Her uterus must be penetrated by a bladed object, but heal so rapidly it allows almost instant impregnation. Remember, uteruses are an organ, and organs fucking bleed like mad when stabbed.
Sperm in her GI tract must survive the varying pH levels and temperatures.
Then make the Leap of Faith from the gut to the uterus (nevermind the current of blood flowing about and knocking them all off course).
All on her first period ever.
In fucking Lesotho. In the 70s (all the papers I can find, including the one on the DiscoBlog are comments about the original publication). Lesotho is not known for being a place of wondrous healthcare. A country where most of its serious injuries are sent to another country to be dealt with, and where many people still live in poverty or rural areas.
I'm not buying this story at all. It sounds way to apocryphal to me.
Technetium_Hat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how does menstruation work with noย vaginal opening?
yeh-nah-yeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me reconsider the Jesus story.
MxM111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can not believe that sperm can survive the stomach acid and then GI juices
sombresaturn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now we know how Jesus was conceived.
DoctorGarbanzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hate to say this, because this seems like a reputable site that may be quoting from a less than reputable source. I have absolutely no reason to feel this other than every fibre of my being is screaming bullshit to this story.
chakakhanfeelsforme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of like a bed bug!
https://youtu.be/MCD2VoEjbr0
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Life.......uh......... finds a way
aebl22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a terrible stroke of luck.
laeiryn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's four or five cases of someone getting pregnant from anal (due to a hole in the wall between vaginal canal and rectum).
PM_ME_THE_BEST_STORY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So how would periods work for that?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After reading this entire thread, I've discovered that apparently we can grow vagina's in a lab.
http://myfox8.com/2014/04/11/doctors-successfully-implant-lab-grown-vaginas-in-four-women/
Science! Is there anything it can't do? Also, the first person who manages to make a recreational version of this will be a bajillionarie.
DontMakeMeDownvote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard this before and I just don't believe it.
BigDRustyShackleford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this on Scooby doo? It sounds a lot like scooby doo
TheBlindCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3191066/
JoanofArc5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Biology is one tough motherfucker.
phil8248 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girls can become pregnant from semen ejaculated at the mouth of the vagina. So technically a virgin could conceive if her boyfriend rubbed one out against her belly or legs or just shot his load near her cooch.
Wolfey1618 ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 20:51:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex thought that, but kept doing it and never questioned why she didn't get pregnant until somehow it came up in a conversation like a year into the relationship.
mynameisalso ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't be dittling 11 year olds.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay, it's only a blow job.
twisted34 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should have told her that it could that that's the only way you were willing to inseminate her, you could have gotten a blowey every day for a few months but you missed out!!!
Wolfey1618 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well for one thing, she did it anyway every day cause she liked it, and I don't want kids and also she was crazy so i had to gtfo
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 19:43:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she can if she sucks with her vagina
Salladskillen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no upsuck. Proof
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was trying to make a joke clearly you never got it
Grungus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:29:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You still talked her into it though, right?
hamsolo1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:25:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So after she get to know that did she suck your dick ?
extinctzebras ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:31:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've mentioned this on here before, but my boyfriend once told me men could get pregnant. Alone. A man born as a man.
He really likes fucking with people for fun, so I am still not sure if this was some one of those instances. I certainly hope so.
I recall saying to him, "Our sewers would be rife with discarded infants," which, unsurprisingly, seemed to hold no weight in one of the stupidest conversations I've ever had with an adult. Or human. Or living being. Or dirt, whatever.
EyesOfEnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend does that to me too. My bullshit detector isn't quite up to par and and I can never quite tell if he's lying or not. :/
mrpoopistan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:32:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In her defense, almost every woman I know who has been pregnant did suck dick at some point.
rzNicad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was actually taught this in Sex Ed in middle school. Fortunately, common sense (and changing schools) prevailed, but still. What the balls is wrong with people?
mynameisalso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What state?
rzNicad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See, that's the really baffling part. Massachusetts.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the hell was this conversation brought up?
Codythehaloguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's nothing,when my grandmother was 15 she thought you could get pregnant from a kiss. It's all because her parents always said to her the path to parenthood starts with a kiss.
actioncheese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So did my ex when she was 20. She wanted to buy a pregnancy test after I gave her oral..
thismaybemean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had the sex talk with my younger sister and about 8 of her friends one day.
It started out as a joke. She was on the phone with one friend and they asked me a silly question that they thought they knew the answer to. I realized that they were idiots and before I knew it, I was answering questions for all their friends.
Anyway, not a single one got pregnant in high school. I'm taking partial credit for that because they were some hoes.
SATANONITE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i love your username
EmagehtmaI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if she swallows.
mynameisalso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really really hard
RoverRebellion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she should have been swallowed?
J973 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I had to explain to one of my friends that someone couldn't get pregnant from swallowing semen. I'm like they are two different systems!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One girl in Romania did get pregnant that way. Her ex interrupted and stabbed her.
bog5000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is one documented case
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562
no-offence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um ... you can.... http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562
O_O
Kevin1798 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like, even if they had some uber religious-motivation sex ed that had a nun at the top of the class saying "you can even get pregnant from sucking dick" was there no thought to this when learning about human digestion and respiration? No bells rung when talking about the oesophagus being a one street trip from mouth to stomach? No consideration about the hydrochloric acid in the stomach and the enzymes that break down virtually everything biological?
JayRulo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You were saying?
I know, super rare and super specific case โ and not really your point, anyway โ but in the end she still got pregnant after having sucked a dick.
Edit: Just noticed someone else posted this...I'm always late to the party :(
mynameisalso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What state?
hidano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex gfs best friend told us she wouldn't swallow during oral sex because she thought you would get pregnant from the sperm going into her stomach. Guess she didn't pay attention in sex ed class.
Seralth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to be that guy... But there was that one case where a girl sucking dick got walked in on by her boyfriend and found her cheating. A knife fight ensued and she was stabbed in the gut. Seamen found theit way into her gut and then to an egg. She ended up pregnant.
I should also mention she had "no vagina". So your sister should just make sure to not get into knife fights right after giving head.
Life is stranger then fiction never doubt the stupid that is the world.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Blairbitch: Where did you get you MD? Blair Witch College?
Tranger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she can if she has coitus before or after the sucking.
SheWhoComesFirst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With a mind like hers... don't correct her. Keep her away from sperm and any possibility of reproducing at all cost.
Mander0123456789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 17 when I found out that you couldn't. I was raised by my father so my sex talk was "don't do it," and we moved when I was in sixth grade so I missed sex education at school because it was coming up in the next semester where I was and finished in my new health class.
bewm_bewm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sex Ed at my school taught me that you damn well COULD.
Their reasoning was that if a girl is around sperm, then you can't 100% guarantee she won't get pregnant. They never came out and said it but I'm assuming they meant it might land on or near the vulva and swim upstream from there.
Abstinence- only ed was a blast.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she's looking for a sperm donor, I suppose I could volunteer.
STaY_TUNeD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I thought that oral sex was a technical term for dirty talk until I was 17
glennis1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did anyone else misread this as "12"?
Even typing this out i had to check once more before submitting.
BettmansDungeonSlave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watching "Alien" too much
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did you find out?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but then married people would NEVER have a child.
clocks212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be incest too
JoJackthewonderskunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In high school one of my friends was in a relationship with a chick. They were pretty serious at the time, one of those high school couples that act like they are married. They didn't have sex because of the risk of pregnancy (which was responsible and noble and all that) but they DID do oral. That is, until, we told the girl that there was a small chance of pregnancy if the sperm manages to swim through her and into her uterus. We convinced her that it rarely happens because of how difficult it would be to swim through a person before the body got rid of it as waste. Anyways we convinced her this was a possibility and that her boyfriend (our friend) was lying to her so he could get oral. We also convinced her that telling him where she got this information wouldn't be good because then our friend would be mad at us for "spilling the beans to her" and that we were having her back by telling her and that we were only doing it because our friend was being selfish and risking her getting pregnant. Needless to say our friend went from bragging constantly about getting more action then us to constantly bitching that his girlfriend wouldn't put out anymore.
CrazypantsFuckbadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of an old joke.
One sperm says to the other "How far to the ovaries?"
The other sperm replies "ovaries? We haven't even passed the tonsils yet!"
tupeloms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before I entered this thread my first thought was, it's gonna be sex and pregnancy
Pixelated_jpg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 10-year-old recently asked that exact question, and I thought it was a not-so-bright question from even her at first. Then she explained that she didn't know if things you swallow might pass through the same passages as things that go in other orifices (which actually made some sense, if you don't have a great hanle on anatomy), and then I remembered that she's 10, and realized that the question was just fine for her age.
humanjumprope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you can't get AIDS from getting your dick sucked, because if you could I woulda been had it.
Smoke_screen_lol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex girlfriend thought the same thing, it was her nurse mum that had told her that (I think as a scare tactic tbh, unless she actually thought that with her nursing background) my ex freaked out after getting food poisoning (a day after we had messed around which meant her telling her parents to my parents.
Oh btw we were both in college
And that's part of how my extremely religious parents almost killed me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Possible, maybe tell her not to be such a messy eater.
ImEnhanced ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you proved her wrong.
Fist_City_86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got my period before sex ed was taught at our school. I thought it meant I was pregnant, and since I was a virgin, someone must have broken in and raped me. When I told my mom, at 11, that I was pregnant, she figured I was a slut from then on. I didn't lose my virginity until College.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mouth babies
ZDH266 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something my teacher in grade 10 tried to tell me.
angelllll-licka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother thought men could get pregnant by sucking dick when he was 19. Being 12 or 13 at the time, that was a fun thing to explain to him...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if she swallows.
PorkSwordintheStone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you suck hard enough.
richardtheassassin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, at least she didn't think that she could get pregnant by doing that.
r_politics_is_shills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It all depends on how hard you suck the dick.
yeh-nah-yeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with a Thai friend of mine. Sex education lacking in schools.
instantrobotwar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, abstinence-only education!
StaringAtYourBudgie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't get pregnant from oral sex, then why are there oral contraceptives?!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she was playing dumb
yaxamie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a bad idea to risk that with your sister even if the odds are low.
MelloD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex who was 20 at the time thought this too. I could not convince him that pregnancy only happened if you had penetrative (IN THE VAGINA) sex. He refused to have blow jobs or sex.
unidan_was_right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she sucks it with her vagina she might get pregnant.
theGarrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My high school girlfriend's health teacher actually taught this in class. She refused to believe otherwise until halfway through college.
Edit: grammar
blisstake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....its actually true. Very low fucking chance though; one instance (swallowed first note) a woman got stabbed in an alleyway, hospitalized and found she was pregnant
Deezl-Vegas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can double your chances with two guys at once.
Lochtide7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you ask your own sister to suck your dick, that is just messed up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you become so ignorant?
Justice_Prince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called making mouth babies.
LadySilvie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought oral sex was the technical name for French kissing until mid-high school. Ahh, abstinence-only.
BigDRustyShackleford ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"At your age, you're going to have a lot of urges. You're going to want to take off your clothes, and touch each other. But if you do touch each other, you will get chlamydia... and die." I love coach carr
EnclaveHunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who's believed the same. It was very shocking.
NickKappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean theoretically, a girl going down on a guy, making out with him and then him returning the favor could result in a pregnancy, but the stars would need to alone twice for that to happen
raine_hinata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My little sister (who was 14 or 15 at the time) would masterbate with a condom on her vibrator because "in sex ed they tell you to use a condom every time'
WheresMyMoneyDenny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean to say you CAN'T? Oh, excellent! (SWALLOWS.)
PyrZern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now that I think back about it... I dunno where I got all the sex ed from. Definitely not from school. They only covered up to 'clean it often'.
Must be from the collective mind of the Internet.
themannamedme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well to be fair the more dick you suck, the more likely you are to get pregnant.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother once told a female friend of his that she could get pregnant from oral sex if there was a hole in the lining of her stomach and it was absorbed into her through other means.
She believed it.
BCJunglist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why sex Ed is important
aixenprovence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ancient Egyptians believed this, too, interestingly.
JimDixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the HBO movie "Wishful Drinking" (which is actually a monologue performed before a live audience) Carrie Fisher reported that her mother, Debbie Reynolds, actually believed that artificial insemination happens by getting an injection into your arm, like a flu shot. Fisher had to tell her own mother that you can't get pregnant that way. (There's more to the story that's even more bizarre, but it's not relevant to this thread.)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My bestfriend was a registered nurse when she had me go with her to buy a pregnancy test because she was just sure she was knocked up....... From being fingered.
wee_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did this come up in conversation?
man_on_a_screen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet it's happened at least once.
richmana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my wife's best friends thought the same thing at around the same age. Goddamn strict Christian households and Christian schools.
AlwaysNowNeverNotMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a friend who thought this but "only if she swallows"
maggotbrownie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well did you show her she was wrong?
MyKidsArentOnReddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well how else does the baby get in the stomach?
lycanthrope6950 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girl I went to high school with thought that... Definitely not the brightest crayon in the box
k2_finite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girl I dated from high school was scared she would get pregnant from anal sex. She literally thought the sperm would leak out of her butt, swim up into her vag, and impregnate her.
pumpkinbread987 ยท 605 points ยท Posted at 23:36:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a coworker asked about a surgery we had just finished at the animal hospital I work at. The dog had a pyometra (pus filed uterus) we removed. When I told her this, she looked at me in horror and asked how the dog was going to be able to pee without a uterus.
She's 25.
BigAggie06 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 03:36:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am just going to assume that this was a momentary lapse and she got uterus confused with urethra
PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:59:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, my first though was "brain fart"
scruit ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 00:28:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Straight face: "Through her penis".
OkieVT ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:32:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I was this quick with stupid things clients ask/say to me
fubo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:22:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, testes are the same as testicles, so obviously uterus is the same thing as urethra, right? Similarly, vulva and uvula.
And penis and spine are just obvious; they're anagrams and they can both be held erect!
VioletStriker ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:59:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I (a vet tech) used to work at a shelter that does low cost spay/neuter surgeries for the public and was doing the morning intake when a client asked if her dog's testicles would grow back after we removed them.
I don't know what's worse, questions like those, or all the people who agonize over spaying/neutering their pets because "won't they miss having a uterus/testicles/having babies/etc.?" Trust me people, having sex/litters is not essential to your pet's health or happiness.
MiladyRogue ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:36:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom's dog almost died of that. You'd think she would have noticed her dog had been in heat for over a month and she was leaving black blood all over the floor, furniture and their bed. Nope, I had to tell her to take the vet and call her a fucking moron!
oh__golly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My rat also almost died of this. It's the opposite in rats though; rats don't menstruate so if you have a lady rat with bleeding or discharge from her lady rat bits, it's time for a vet.
ShrunkenChesticles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she got temporarily confused with "urethra?" I'm a nurse who floats to OBGYN sometimes, and I've lost track of how many times I've accidentally said "urethral sound" instead of "uterine sound." Throw in the fact that there are other body parts in the lower abdomen called "ureters" and it's easy to see why some may get the names mixed up.
pumpkinbread987 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this girl didn't have much anatomy knowledge, she's not medical staff. we had a brief, informal anatomy lesson
Leohond15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf is that idiot doing working in an animal hospital? And seriously procedures on animals' genitals and reproductive organs are the most common/standard thing IN veterinary medicine.
pumpkinbread987 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:59:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She works in boarding, so no medical stuff thankfully
icer816 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 09:10:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or
FTFY, just make your pick
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do realize that she might be a tech, correct?
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:10 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had not even thought of that. I do know not to reddit at 4 am now though.
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:07 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
4am Redditing is great Redditing, but I try not to post that late for similar reasons.
cmcewen ยท 1568 points ยท Posted at 00:29:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor here.
I think the most frustrating I've seen since I was a resident was a very pretty (like stunningly pretty) 17 year old with what appeared to be normal, loving, affluent parents. She had a tumor in her pelvis (rhabdomyosarcoma) that we could resect to potentially cure her. The parents declined, also declined chemo and said they want to try holistic medicine because that made more sense to them.
I last saw her 3 years ago, she was getting huge lymph nodes removed from her groin because they were unsightly. Obviously metastatic disease. Parents did not want primary tumor removed and again declined chemo.
I see 100 patients/week probably, lots of devastatingly sad cases. But I still think about that girl, listening to her parents, costing her life. I bet she's dead now.
I can assure people, doctors are not trying to swindle you, give you unnecessary care, or have some ulterior motive in this sort of setting. 99.99% of doctors are treating patients the same way they'd treat family, so try not to be dense, we want to help.
[deleted] ยท 193 points ยท Posted at 01:12:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 02:58:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The girl was 17. I imagine by the time it became life threatening and eligible for a court order, she was 18.
Kaylya ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 03:15:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are cases where that's done; however, I don't think you'd be likely to get one for a 17 year old who is also on board the woo train. I'm sure it varies by jurisdiction but it's not like a switch magically flips the day someone turns 18 to go from 0 input to 100% control on medical matters, a teenager's wishes are going to be taken into account much more than a 6 year old.
It gets really tricky in a lot of these cases, where it's not that the parents don't love or otherwise care for the child, it's that they and often the child have become completely convinced that wheatgrass enemas or whatever other BS are going to cure their child. And chemo has all kinds of nasty side effects in the short term, it can't be fun seeing your kid go through it (there's cases along these lines where chemo was started, perhaps long enough to initially knock back the tumor, but stopped early so risk of it coming back is high)
losian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Frankly willful ignorance in the face of knowledge to the point of letting a family member die absolutely means you don't love them; your preconceived notions are more important than their health. Your arrogance and pride more valuable than another's life. There's no love there except for oneself, shameful and selfish.
PM_ME_UR_REDDIT_GOLD ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if the girl was all "I want the surgery" but her parents refused you could. But what are you going to do, tie up and perform surgery on a 17 year old who doesn't want it?
cmcewen ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:44:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To override the patient and the patients parents? Can't make people receive treatment
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 02:13:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical neglect is a reason for cps removal so it's not outside the realm of possibility, but you're right, it's ethically sticky.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 02:20:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US, you can if they're a minor and the illness is life threatening.
NDaveT ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:11:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the patient is a minor you can. Happened here in Minnesota a few years ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/05/26/boy-refusing-cancer-treatment-returns-home-with-mother.html
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:04:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me the parents received attempted manslaughter charges too.
BarneyHarris ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:59:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Atleast in U.S you can. Its different thibg if tge judge approves it.
Palazard95 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:53:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
House M.D. sure did
Noodles14 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:42:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this.
passwordforgeterer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also depends on how likely the treatment is to cure or sufficiently treat the disease.
TheTartanDervish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Adult protective services kicks in if she's 18+
kama_s ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 02:55:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the saddest thing I've read on this thread. I, too, have come across many such patients. Except I'm in big bad pharma/biotech and we are apparently intentionally holding the cure to cancer in order to make $$$. As a clinical pharmacologist, listening to these patients makes me livid and breaks my heart simultaneously.
Rydralain ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:34:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if you are holding back the ultimate cure to cancer, I'll take the shitty poison cure that's available anyway, thank you.
94358132568746582 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:57:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People don't want to thank that bad things happen to goo people for no damn good reason. It is more comforting to believe that it is greed that kills little girls and school teachers with cancer than just shitty luck.
andrewdski ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:57:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it!
jules083 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:35 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear so often that 'they' can cure cancer but don't want to because there's too much money in it. Drives me nuts.
frogandbanjo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have to ask yourself if your industry's documented, verified practices are doing anything to legitimize these conspiracy theories. I'd say they are - to a staggering and unconscionable extent, actually.
Dekronos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:35:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See epipen and aids medicine cocktail price hikes
kama_s ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:02:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just as an FYI: these are small companies that take on legacy products for the sole purpose of profit. I am talking about biotechs that invest billions of dollars into core research. The ones doing cutting edge work to discover new genes, new targets etc. Huge difference. As someone with ridiculously strong ethics and a very clinical background, there is a reason why I will work at a biotech and not a generic manufacturing company - even if offered higher pay/title - and there are many many like me who I work with who are extremely passionate about what they do and really into the science and want to see the best outcomes for patients.
angrygnomes58 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 04:06:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but worked in oncology research for a couple of years. Woman had an abnormal mammo finding and was told they were pretty certain it was cancer, but caught way soon enough to have a decent chance of being cured. She opted to "wait and see" what happened. The problem is she waited almost 5 years until the tumor grew to the point it was causing her "discomfort" and her breast was double the size of the other breast. She would only consent to surgical removal, which our doctors strongly disagreed with but she got someone to perform the surgery. Denied chemo in favor of homeopathic treatment in Jamaica, and fell off the radar. Returned about 6 month later with a fungating wound that she wanted "cleaned up." She was told by the "healer" she was seeing that this was perfectly normal as it was just the cancer being pulled out by her "treatments" - needless to say she died a pretty awful death. She continued to fly monthly to see said healer until her bone mets made it too painful to fly.
Had she been treated when the cancer was first discovered on the mammogram her 5 year survival likely would have been almost 100%. She never even had a biopsy. Clearly the fact that she went 5 years with zero treatment - she didn't start alternative medicine - indicates she likely would have had a very favorable response with minimal actual medically sound treatment.
TheTartanDervish ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:57:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't currently find it, but there was a Reddit post linking a video of a 20ish woman who decided to treat her breast cancer like that. By the end it's obvious she's in tremendous pain and dying - she shows her affects breast and is like "why did I risk it" - very educational but sad.
angrygnomes58 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:56:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, sadly this isn't an isolated case. I've seen it happen several times and the sad thing is these are usually highly educated people. I sat in while one of my doctors counseled a fellow physician on the importance of timely treatment for his prostate cancer while a board certified physician tried to argue against treatment because of the potential erectile dysfunction and urinary incontinence effects of treatment.
One of the most recent patients I had was a 30 y/o female who got breast cancer while pregnant. She had a fairly advanced and moderately aggressive cancer but had an excellent response to treatment. As soon as she was told she was in remission she became non compliant with maintenance therapy. She had osteopenia, bordering on osteoporosis, and refused any sort of intervention stating she'd rather "just try some algae." She was given data on improved survival with 5 years of hormonal treatment. She stayed on for about 8 months and showed up to inform (not ask) the physician that she'd stopped taking Tamoxifen and was actively trying to conceive.
So many face palm moments. It's hard when you know the data and you know that things aren't going to end well but patients have the right to choose.
TheTartanDervish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:16:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darwin award, but she already reproduced once :( If it were as easy as picking up some algae then why bother seeing a doctor? What an idiot. Sorry you had to deal with that - suicide by arrogance.
angrygnomes58 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:38:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much. For every patient like those few that don't take treatment seriously, there are a dozen others who are super compliant and take their treatment seriously because they want to be there for family and friends for many years to come. That helps a bit but it's still difficult to watch someone shun a treatment that could have a major benefit for them.
The one with the kid who was trying to get pregnant again at the cost of discontinuing maintenance therapy was probably the most difficult for me. I have a few friends who lost their parents when they were young. It's so heartbreaking because it's the child who suffers most. She may be fine and live a long, full healthy life but odds aren't in favor of that outcome especially without to potential benefit of Tamoxifen and the fact that she developed breast cancer during her first pregnancy. I wanted to scream at her to think about her kid and not herself for 5 minutes. Her kid isn't even 2 years old yet. I can't fathom a parent NOT doing everything they can to live for their child.
isfturtle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:04 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't Steve Jobs die because he opted for some sort of "alternative" treatment for his cancer until it was too late? Or something like that?
angrygnomes58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:37 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair Steve Jobs had pancreatic cancer. Even with top of the line cutting edge treatment the survival rate to put it mildly is incredibly bleak. The general survival across all cytologies and stages is poor. 80% of patients will be dead within a year. If the cancer is caught early enough and can be treated surgically odds are slightly better but it's still one of the most lethal cancers out there.
HIM_Darling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:30 on February 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine went for a regular checkup with her doctor, she mentioned that she had recently had some slight abdominal discomfort, doctor feels her abdomen and sends her to the hospital for further testing. That was on Friday, by Monday they confirmed that it was pancreatic cancer, gave her a prognosis of 3 months. She passed that Wednesday. Very sad.
angrygnomes58 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:13:23 on February 8, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry for your loss. It's an awful disease.
VaneWimsey ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:05:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks but no thanks for introducing me to this word.
Plague_of_crocus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:37:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least you can't smell through the Internet. Nothing quite like it.
Stark1y ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my grandmother had one- chest wall tumour that went feral through the biopsy site and began fungating; ultimately it killed her, but jesus. i can still smell her hospital room even now, three years later.
lovehate1026 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:23 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you describe it?
Stark1y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:42 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite the smell of death, but getting there. There's an fungal element to it, there's something almost farty about it. It's one of those smells that triggers something instinctive in you like, "This is bad, get away, NOW". My mother's a nurse and she handled it a lot better than me, as did my aunt who had been caring for my nana so that about the instinct thing might be more of, "Maybe someone should have forewarned Stark1y about this".
Khayeth ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 03:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grrrrr. My ex (with whom i'm still good friends) had rhabdomyosarcoma at age 32. I'm surprised she lasted 3 years with no treatment. He got aggressive chemo and radiation for a year before he was declared in remission, and it was a close thing for quite a while.
Though, his would have been fatal much sooner since the primary tumor was in his sinus cavity, behind his right eye. In the course of a month he went from "i think i have a sinus infection" to "my eye is facing 45 degrees away from the plane of my face because of a grapefruit sized mass in my head".
And in case people don't say this enough to you, thank you so much for all you do. That was easily the worst year of both of our lives so far.
MrjB0ty ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:18:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me so angry and sad.
eazolan ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It shouldn't. This is how evolution works. It's not pretty, and those who do or think the wrong things die before they reproduce.
Ashiiiee ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it should make us feel sad. Senseless waste of a life is always sad. Yes, that's how it works. Death is the result of all life, that's how life works, doesn't make a person any less sad when a loved one passes.
eazolan ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's not your loved one. She's is one of the many, many lives that end every single day.
Schnitzelgruben ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:03:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you tell the girl that her parents were more or less sentencing her to death? Was there any sort of pushback from her? Sorry to hear.
Leohond15 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:24:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Children like that should just be removed from their parents unless they get the treatment. I'm sorry, your children shouldn't suffer because you're a fucking idiot.
Aayin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:25:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't apologize, you're absolutely right.
Dekronos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't there a case of a family with several kids, had some (as in multiple) die to preventable diseases because they were firm believers in faith healing?
Leohond15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably. I do remember recently hearing about some crazy family trying to cure their son's illness with maple syrup or some bullshit and he died.
tsume24 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:51:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's so sad :/
carBoard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:16:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but that's so easily treatable with resection! damn people..
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:56:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely dead at that stage of metastasis.
Homeopathy is like a religion...even if she could make her own decision she probably wouldn't.
Ultimately it's better that these people and their archaic beliefs die off.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:01:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just a note, but homeopathy is a particular type of medical woo that involves diluting substances until there's nothing left and calling it a cure. The post above only said "holistic medicine" which could be any kind of medical nonsense.
obeysanta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amen
FrankenBerryGxM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say if you disagree with your doctor, get a second and third opinion if the second opinion also disagrees with your doctor.
It helps that I have a college degree, because I know that I know more than most about my field of study, and doctors spent twice as long, sometimes more learning that.
the_ninja1001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since she was 17, could you have told her that it would be in her best interest/health to come back and have it properly taken care of when she turned 18? Or is that frowned apon to do in front of the parent/guardian.
cmcewen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She didn't want treatment either. People keep missing that point
ElMachoGrande ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:10:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Related to that, a friend of mine doesn't use antibiotics, because she tried them once and they didn't help. Why is it so hard for people to understand probabilities?
EyeGifUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there were child protective laws that would prevent dumbass parents from making these types of decisions. Children shouldn't have to suffer because of ignorant parents.
send_me_xray_pics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats criminal
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
AlexxTrebek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to disagree on the "we won't suggest unnecessary procedures" part of that. Suffered two severely herniated discs in my cervical spine. Orthopedist that I went to stated surgery was the only option....at 28. I asked about PT, his response was that it would be a waste of time but he would write me a script if I insisted. I insisted and 3-4 months of PT later I was right as rain. Surgeons will suggest surgery because surgeons like to cut...especially if you have good insurance. On the other hand, the internet is no substitute for a good second opinion.
FormerGameDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a couple of friends who had family members treated by Dr. Fata. Just to be contrary.
grayle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I tell my non-doctor relatives, that we can't keep assuming doctors are prescribing nonsense to us to make money like some unscrupulous businessman. They sometimes "don't tell the doctors everything" thinking they're smarter. Going to the hospital, telling the doctor specific symptoms and asking for certain medications. Ridiculous.
adevilnguyen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a medical assistant. I had a patient come in for high blood pressure (she walks to Walgreens every day to check it) we're going over her history and she tell me she used to have breast cancer but she took some herbs prescribed by a holistic doctor and she was now cured. She also needed a yearly mammogram so my doctor wrote her an order, the next day we get a phone call that she had a black mass protruding out of her breast. She normally called me daily to tell me of her high blood pressure, within days she stopped calling. I'm pretty sure she died.
OctaneAddicted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So sad, almost made me cry...
stygger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Sweden they would have been found unfit as guardians of the child, and replaced with a less crazy relative or the state. Heregovernment protects children from crazy/addicted parents, not the other way around!
kiki1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should be illegal! Did this happen in the US?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, some do. :/
slhouston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stunningly pretty means what to you? She's being wasted for some loser? If she was ugly would you have posted?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who is a judge in my country and he told me that if you are a minor the state can force life saving treatments on you. He has had a few cases about blood transfussions with Jehova's Witnesses and he says that there is no problem as long as the patient is a minor.
QuetzalsPretzels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Serious question: Is declining a medically-necessary, potentially live-saving treatment for your child not considered abuse/neglect?
RealLADude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is awful. My stepson had rhabdo at 4. It's a scary disease, but he had good treatment, and he's 34 now. We have lunch all the time, and I'm really glad.
music_ackbar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:53 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the sort of shit that makes my blood boil. It's the parents who fuck up, and it's the child who pays for it.
wizardeyejoe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:32:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
โOver 75% of the oncologists polled said that if they had cancer they would never use the same chemotherapy they prescribe for their patients on themselves because of the ineffectiveness of chemotherapy and its unacceptable degree of toxicity.โ - Los Angeles Times
cmcewen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors always choose to die with less interventions than patients. But in this scenario, every doctor would choose surgery. This was curable
94358132568746582 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:05:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is also a difference in choosing to die because you have a deep understanding of the odds with treatment, and believing incorrectly that something that has a 0% chance of being effective is better than surgery and chemo.
fjccommish ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid my doctor wanted me on whatever medicine at the time was for hyper activity or ADHD. I don't know what the medicine was, and I don't care. My parents wisely didn't put me on it.
[deleted] ยท 592 points ยท Posted at 00:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really late to this one but maybe someone will get a kick out of it.
A few years ago, the subject of human anatomy came up between a friend and I. He went on this whole tangent about how all men have uteruses because his college professor said so. I don't know if his professor was trying to explain transmen and some wires got crossed or what. But I had to explain to this fully grown man that he did not, nor did any natural born male, have a uterus. I sent him diagrams and told him to google for himself if he didn't believe me. He said those were fake, "Professor so and so said!" I asked him where he thought his uterus was and he said "the same place yours is". When I countered with "oh you have a vagina?" He got quite angry and said men don't have vaginas. I explained that not having a vagina means not having a uterus. He laughed at me and said "okay, just go ahead and believe that." Why yes I will go ahead and believe anatomical facts ๐.
We weren't really friends anymore after that, especially since I asked about 20 times wether or not he was joking.
PaulsRedditUsername ยท 268 points ยท Posted at 03:37:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be too hard on him. It was probably his time of the month.
UndeadKitten ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 01:03:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the joys of a jackass realizing they're wrong but refusing to admit it.
-UndeadKitten, who honestly believed that men's testicles don't grow until they hit puberty until she was 12 and had to care for a baby boy whose balls were exactly where they should've been.
Abananafoesail ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:08:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, because of the phrase "balls dropping" during puberty, I thought the testes were internal until then. Where else would they be dropping from?!
OneGoodRib ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:24:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought they were external, just up so they were touching the body (the pelvis/crotch area), and then one day they'd just fall down like 5 inches and at the same time the guy's voice was now an octave deeper. Apparently that's not quite how it works.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:01:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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UndeadKitten ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:57:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but they do have balls before hand. I seriously though it was like cats, the testicles weren't external until puberty.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:03:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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UndeadKitten ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:14:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not gross, it makes sense.
But yeah, as a kid I thought it was a puberty thing.
[deleted] ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 04:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Beviah ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm hoping that's what he meant, I don't want to believe someone could be that ignorant
Strix780 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend's professor was probably talking about the prostatic utricle, a little indentation which was formerly believed to be the male homologue of the uterus. That idea has been discredited, although it lives on in places like Wikipedia.
WangsWilly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:17:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He might've gotten it confused with urethra. I thought us guys had uteruses too for a while because I got the two mixed up.
ruinevil ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:25:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Embryologically, males fetuses do have Mullerian ducts at one point of their development. The Mullerian duct in women becomes the Fallopian tubes, uterus, cervix, and the part of the vaginal directly adjacent to the cervix.
In males, the testes start to produce anti-mullerian hormone around 8 weeks, which tells the Mullerian duct cells to die. Testosterone, which is also produced in the testes, promotes the growth of the Wolffian ducts, which eventually becomes epididymis, vas deferens, and seminal vesicles.
The granulosa cells in your ovaries also produce anti-mullerian hormone. When you run out of viable eggs, your anti-mullerian hormone levels will drop.
euphorie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:14 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was a great explanation, thank you.
CyberClawX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy that kept insisting his driving instructor said he had to brake hard if he didn't have ABS, and he had to brake intermittent if he had.
I told him he got it the wrong way around, and the instructor was either flat out wrong, or he misunderstood. He said he trusted his very studied and smart instructor more than me. I explained to him what the ABS does, that it locks the wheels intermittently, and you can even feel it. He had felt it too. But nope, the dumb guy trusted his very studied and smart instructor over me. Obviously I wouldn't be caught dead in his car, moron doesn't know how to brake.
(The very same night, he manages to skid in a wet turnabout and end up facing the wrong way - although I don't think this was due to his braking, just accelerating at the wrong time and not understanding grip - 5 cars and myself in a bike did the turnabout just fine)
A month later, he was driving his brother's FIAT Punto with no ABS and 5 people in it, at how fast it'd go in the highway in the summer. "Oh shit, the tool is right ahead". Heavy single brake, that causes the car to skid for like 100 meters straight. The wheels got squared off, and one of the threads jumped off the wheel. For the rest of the trip everyone felt the huge bump when the wheels completed a rotation.
Fucking idiot still trusts his very studied and smart instructor, it's normal to ruin the 4 tires when emergency braking...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am praying this wasn't a medical student?
ronin1066 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if this was about sexual differentiation of embryos, how we all start as female.
Dragoness42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe someone was trying to explain the embryological development to him, and thoroughly confused him? Since fetuses default to female phenotype until they get hit with androgens?
Siz27 ยท 591 points ยท Posted at 01:03:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Step mom is an ER nurse, she used to tell stories about her fun patients she had. My favorite was always this:
Severely drunk guy came in with signs of alcohol poisoning. They put a urethral catheter in him so he didn't piss himself. He didn't quite understand what it was and why he had it in his dick and kept on messing with it.
At one point he tried pulling it out and my step mom (she's not the very best at subtlety mind you) leans over and said in his ear: "If you pull that out now, your dick will never work again". Well wouldn't you know it? He stopped trying to pull it out after that.
dred1367 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:37:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to do patient transfers from outlying standalone ERs to inpatient facilities. A guy had a balloon catheter and he cut the tube... it receded inside him and a urinologist had to admit him to remove it.
akambe ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:48:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My doc told me that to remove the catheter after the three days, to attach the syringe to the inflation tube and use it to suck out the fluid from the balloon. He also said that, if I lost the syringe or it didn't work for some reason, I could just cut off the end of the inflation tube, and the balloon would naturally drain and out it'd come. I could see how a patient could confuse some of that info in his brain and think that snipping the tube off close to the head of the penis would work.
dred1367 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Different kind of catheter. This one was not dissolvable. Also, I didn't talk with patients, I would sit in on doctor to doctor conferences and got to hear all the details.
uberfission ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, my dick hurts just reading that
CursesandMutterings ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 06:11:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER nurse here .... we don't very well fit the popular view of most nurses. ER nurses will tell it like it is. We do not fuck around.
Jinxyfaggot ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 07:25:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was admired to the ER for passing out and low oxygen/low blood pressure. My nurse did not fuck around. She asked me one question, realized I was barely lucid and just stuck a needle in my arm to get blood to make sure I wasn't pregnant. No sitting there and yelling at me until I understood what was going on and what she was asking.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is an ER nurse. It carries on into their personal lives as well. Love you mom! :)
akambe ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG, I just had prostate surgery so had a Foley catheter in for three days. YES it's the most uncomfortable thing ever. It feels SO good when it's finally out. BUT pulling on it while it's in...just makes no sense.
Here is what it looks like, if you're curious (medical illustration).
er3465 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:57:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to have to remember that line!
pink-pink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:15:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a doctor friend once told me a story about a guy who pulled one out while it was still inflated.
CoffeeAndCigars ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... paramedic here, and this far down is where I just noped the fuck out of this thread.
Maverick8787 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:51 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse here. I've seen it happen more than once. The answer is blood and lots of it!
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your step Mom is awesome
thingsorfreedom ยท 7882 points ยท Posted at 00:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want my baby to get a vaccine because Jenny McCarthy's book says her son got Autism from the Thimerosal in his MMR vaccine.
Jenny McCarthy is a one time playboy model who wants to sell you her books.
MMR is a live vaccine and does not contain Thimerosal.
Thimerosal contains Ethylmercury which clears from your body in a ~10 days unlike methylmercury which stays for months and actually causes damage.
Measles killed 135,000 people in the world
THISLAST YEARAutism has a strong genetic component. If one identical twin has it, there is a 75% chance the other will as well.
with 75% of identical twins both having autism.Andrew Wakefield faked the research linking autism to MMR vaccine, lost his license to practice medicine, and made millions helping lawyers sue and selling books. He lives in a mansion in England.
I went to school for 11 years, spent 10,000 hours studying and just want to make sure your child stays healthy. Quit thinking your 5 minutes of internet research means anything, get over yourself, and vaccinate your damn baby.
TheBoni ยท 2165 points ยท Posted at 02:11:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son suffered intussusception and very nearly died from blood loss, and it was possibly a side effect of the rotavirus vaccine he'd had a few days before. I'm not exaggerating when I say he very nearly died. He was touch and go for a few hours. It was the single worst day of my entire life and there's not even a close second, including the death of my father.
Vaccinate your damn baby. It's a miniscule risk, but our number nearly came up. I still agree. Vaccinate your damn baby.
EDIT: I'm happy to report that a year later, my son is just fine except for his need to climb on things and subsequently fall off of them. He actually had another intussusception in August and needed a bowel resection this time around, but he was bouncing off the walls again within days.
[deleted] ยท 332 points ยท Posted at 02:38:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter nearly died from rotavirus before the vaccine was available. Similarly to you, it was one of the worst most frightening events in my life. I was so relieved for others when I learnt of the vaccine. Thankfully your son is ok now, but sorry you all had to experience that.
Nezzi ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 04:17:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People vaccinating their kids and getting vaccinated for things your kids can catch from you is my soapbox, as I have worked with many sick children. I want to hug you right now.
alterego04 ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 05:15:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: Jenny later discovered her child doesn't have autism at all, but a rare neurological disorder instead. I am an autism mommy and I think what her words did to the public views on vaccine/ autism is almost criminal.
WiFiForeheadWrinkles ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't she claim that she "cured her son's autism" through some weird diet?
icer816 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FUCK JENNY!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At first she believed that his kid was an Indigo child, I wouldn't believe her about the rare neurological disorder of his child either. Unless it's diagnosed by actual doctors.
ala1985 ยท 176 points ยท Posted at 03:43:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first rotavirus vaccine was withdrawn by the manufacturer because it did cause intussusception. The two vaccines currently approved do not cause intussusception. This is proof that if a problem is discovered with a vaccine.. it isn't covered up! Instead the scientists and doctors who want to SAVE LIVES go back to the drawing board and reformulate the vaccine to make it safe. Same thing with pertussis vaccine, however it wasn't pulled from the market. They just came up with an acellular version that has a far better safety profile.
ShalomRPh ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 04:18:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes. The old DTwP vaccine was nasty. Tomorrow marks exactly 42 years since I got that one, and there's a spot on my arm right there that's still sore/tender to the touch. This is not a joke, 42 damn years later and it still hurts.
On the other hand, as a pharmacist I am all for people getting vaccinated. Had some one come to one of the stores where I work and tried to get me to notarized a document stating that she wanted a religious exemption to getting her children vaccinated. Problem: I'm the same religion as her, and I know damn well that her arguments were bogus, as we don't have any such objection, and in fact exactly the opposite, we actively encourage it. I refused to notarize the document. A few weeks later her husband shows up at the other store where I also work with the same damn document... told him the same thing I told his wife, that he'd have to find a different notary because I wasn't touching that one. What kind of chutzpah does it take to try and get an actual health professional to certify something like that?
Party_Wolf ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:39:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jew alert! But seriously I'm surprised there are Jews that buy into that hysteria
ShalomRPh ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 05:14:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what, the username didn't give it away...?
For the most part, there aren't. The very reason they needed this document was because the Yeshiva (Jewish religious school) wouldn't admit their child without a vaccination record. There's always a few nuts, though. (Like my cousin, an Orthodox Jew like myself, but who picked up some seriously weird ideas while in chiropractic school.)
TheNewElite250 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 05:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... they wanted to claim that their religion exempts them from vaccines to a school based on those very same religious beliefs yet also requiring vaccines?
Wat.
MissBitch25 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:02:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And around and around we go.
TheNewElite250 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:23:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brain hurts already.
rested_green ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:44:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That might be the rotavirus. Better get vaccinated.
Tzipity ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:23:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially funny because most yeshivas (which are orthodox like 99% of the time when that's what they call their school versus say the "Jewish Day schools" that are popular amongst a wider variety of Jews and not as strict) really require you to be Jewish to attend. I know of a couple who sent their daughters to one for awhile and were one of few nonorthodox families (mother later became a rabbi in fact) at that school and it was really hard for them and eventually they placed their kids into public schools because they would come home and tell their mother she wasn't dressed modesty enough or why isn't dad going to daily minyin (prayer service) with the other dads, etc.
Boggles the mind.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:17:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use chuztpah and I'm not Jewish? Is that allowed?
ShalomRPh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure it's allowed. The word made its way into English decades ago.
I remember Theodore Bikel defining the word on a record from about 1960 or so. He was about to play and sing a Spanish Gypsy song ("Gypsy" wasn't a slur that long ago) and introduced it as follows:
(This was 35 years before the Menendez brothers did exactly that, of course.)
putzarino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is really the perfect way to describe it...
Party_Wolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I can see how the sort of WASP-ification I've seen could bleed into crazy. We can't all be perfect
ubiquitoussquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, possibly from LA?
Tzipity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not (another Jew on Reddit here). Some of the flipping craziest dietary and health nonsense I've ever heard has come from other Jews. Seems to be a big trend, at least in my community, towards alternative medicine and dear gosh the things people say.
And it was a Jew on the internet who tried to tell me to go off the "crap" that is basically a form of life support that is literally keeping me alive and to try some bullshit diet he claims cured his mom's cancer. Irony is the guy himself has a lot of health issues so clearly his mom's miraculous cure isn't working for him.
frogjg2003 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:05:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a notary, isn't your job (over simplified) just to check that the identity of the people signing documents are who they claim they are? It doesn't matter if you signed it, you are neither a medical professional, nor a religious leader, so just your notarization couldn't possibly mean anything.
TheBoni ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:00:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CDC still lists it as a risk and that's what the ER doc and the pediatrician both suspected but couldn't confirm. I'm not an expert, I just know what I was told. I still think it's a worthwhile risk.
95percentconfident ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:15:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct that it is still a risk. The risk has been reduced with newer versions of the vaccine. All medical interventions have risks, from acetaminophen to brain surgery, so read up, ask a professional, and then get your kids vaccinated!
floridadude123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:59:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the problem is that people are unable to gauge and asses risk.
On a purely selfish level, the risk of your kid having a serious reaction to a vaccine, especially if you have a family history of such reactions versus your kid getting the underlying disease in an otherwise vaccinated world are not all that far off. It's a hard decision.
My family has a genetic predisposition to severe reactions to neomycin, which is used in a lot of vaccines, and even when not used in a particular vaccine, has been found as containment in many others.
So when it's time to vaccinate my kids, it's a real question. Pick your poison, literally.
What was frustrating is that I had to really force the doctors to lookup and disclose the various risks, write them down, and then investigate those risk levels to come up with the answer. The doctors didn't want to engage past "of course you should get them the shots".
climbtree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's different country to country, but if you have a family history of bad reactions doctors here will recommend postponing childhood vaccinations.
I talked to a family that said their child was diagnosed after a really bad reaction (they didn't think there was a link), and I said "well unless you have a family history of bad reactions you were going on the best information"
Every single person in their family had nearly died getting vaccinated and they never mentioned anything to the doctors.
GermsAndNumbers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The epidemiology of intussusception is weird - it's listed as a risk in the new vaccines, but it's a vanishingly small one, and there's actually some question as to whether or not there was actually a problem in the original vaccine, or if it was the result of being more vigilant for GI complications in infants.
Regardless, it's utterly terrifying, and I'm glad your child is okay.
TerrorGatorRex ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:49:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My baby cousin died (about 6-months) died a few hours after getting the MMR vaccine, and it's believed she had an adverse reaction to the vaccine.
I too still believe in vaccinating your children. It may sound callous, but vaccines have had a tremendous (and positive) impact on our world. They are a game changer that protects our community.
TheBoni ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:56:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to hold on to convictions when you're watching your son getting intubated, you question everything.
I'm so sorry for your little cousin and her poor parents. I came close, and yet I can't even imagine what they must have gone through and must still go through.
Calingaladha ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:39:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she was six months old, it likely wasn't the MMR vaccine. That's not given until a year old. Still very sad.
fuckbecauseican5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:51:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MMR can be given from the age of 6 months if they may have been exposed to the measles virus, or during a measles outbreak
Xinectyl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or someone messed up and gave it to her [early] instead of what she was supposed to get, and that may be why she had a reaction. It probably was a different one like you said, but you never know, people make mistakes.
Very sad though. It's always heartbreaking when children die. ):
SweMoose ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:17:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is given from the age of 6 months but only in special cases. If given before the age of 1 year you can't be certain of a full protection. Because of this any MMR given before the age of 1 are considered an extra shot and does not officially count towards your lifelong immunisation.
Xinectyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:34 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not know that, very interesting. I do not have any offspring as of yet, so I'm not well versed in their immunizations. All I really know is that I had chicken pox in uteri, and while I tested positive for the antibodies, they gave me the vaccination anyway as a baby. And got the whole set AGAIN a little later. My now (adult medicine) doctors think that may cause problems down the road, but since it doesn't normally happen to people, they aren't sure. So I have had experience with medical 'oopsies', and just know that people can make mistakes, and it isn't always clear what the outcome would be. Although I've had medical 'oopsies' that ended up fixing big health problems, so you never really know.
hamburgular70 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for this story. I'm a new dad and am terrified of things like this, but it's nice to hear someone that had something bad happen reiterate that it's the right decision. I've never questioned it, but I've questioned things about myself that I've never considered before since my son was born.
TheBoni ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:49:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the club. DadProTip: Anxiety and second guessing every parenting decision you make are both parts of the job. Some might even say they're essential parts of doing it right.
kungtotte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My son is almost ten months old, and we've given him every vaccine available up until this point.
Zero adverse effects.
You know how they talk about life expectancy was really short even just a few hundred years ago? It's in the mid-70s now but it used to be 45-50. That number is reached by averaging out the age at which people die, so it doesn't mean that people croak spontaneously when they hit 50, it means that infant and child mortality was out of control to such an extent that it brought average life expectancy down. At some points in history, you didn't even have a 50% chance of living past your first birthday.
These days we've nearly eradicated that, and a major part of that is vaccines. Kids used to die left and right from whooping cough and measles, but they don't any more.
Death resulting from vaccination is nearly unheard of. Complications are rare, and in any case, the complications are all less severe than the death of your child.
So, you know, vaccinate them.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. SO MUCH THIS. Yes, there's a MINUSCULE chance your kid will have complications and possibly die due to a vaccination, but the chances they'll catch something horrible and/or die from something if they're not vaccinated are exponentially higher.
ubiquitoussquid ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:33:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the probability would increase significantly if there weren't strict vaccination policies in place because the overall number of vaccinated people would be much less. It's infuriating.
phearlez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully I don't much encounter chumps like this, but on the few occasions I have my question to them was "do you wear your seatbelt? Do you put your child in a car seat?" Because you can find those one in a billion cases where someone survived because they weren't wearing their seatbelt but only a moron thinks that's a reason to not wear one.
Though I have worried, when I have used this appeal to statistics, whether I'm going to give them an idea for another stupid way to live rather than convince them to get the fucking shot.
Dragoness42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention your social responsibility not to let your kid be a vector in an outbreak that kills others.
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that scientifically true on an individual level? Can you post some resources that back it up?
Yamitenshi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:24:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taking rotavirus as an example:
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/rota.html#epi
If a vaccine does not reduce the odds of infection, substantially, it's ruled ineffective.
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The claim was:
That you have an exponentially higher chance of dying/suffering serious illness from disease than dying/suffering serious injury from a vaccine.
Your link or quote does nothing to address that. The base line seems to be 20-60 deaths in kids 5 and under for rotavirus. For the claim to be true, there essentially could be no serious injury related to this vaccine. Is that the case?
Yamitenshi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're equating complications with death. The key here is the 55,000 hospitalizations each year, or the 200,000 ED visits each year - and yeah, I'd say that a few hospitalizations each year are exponentially less than 55,000 (or 200,000).
And this is just rotavirus. There are many more diseases, some of which can have much more serious consequences than rotavirus.
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but you don't have to take every vaccine and treat them equally.
Do you support the claim:
I think to address this we would need the number of "serious" cases of rota-virus, which includes hospitalizations and deaths, and compare that to the number of similarly serious reactions to vaccine, correct?
Yamitenshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So worst case, 1 in 20,000 vaccines result in serious complications (other than allergic reactions). Intussusception is also the only serious side effect I could find, and it's less serious than rotavirus gastroenteritis.
Also, this means that in order to arrive at the same worst-case number of complications per year (55,000) you'd need to vaccinate 1.1 billion infants each year in the US alone. Good luck with that.
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well the point of the question is that I have any my kids have a predisposition to severe allergic reactions to an ingredient that is a common containment is most vaccines and is definitely present in anything that involves using chickens to produce.
Excluding allergic reactions is sort of hand waiving saying don't look at that over there.
If the number (5 per 100,000) result in serious non-allergic side-effects, that's not minuscule risk. It's a small risk for sure.
The problem is the quote will say "your doctor can give you more information", but that is almost always never the case.
Yamitenshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ignoring allergic reactions has nothing to do with hand waving and saying "don't look at that over there", and has everything to do with the fact that people can have allergic reactions to just about anything.
If you're predisposed to allergic reactions, and you're worried your kids might be, consult a medical professional. If they can't help you, consult a different medical professional. Someone will be able to tell you what you and your kids are allergic to and whether or not it'll be in the vaccine.
If your kids are allergic to the vaccines, then don't vaccinate, obviously. But keep in mind that the small possibility for side effects, including allergic reactions, is not a reason not to vaccinate if you have no prior indication that there might be an issue. If anything, it's another reason to vaccinate - you, being allergic to some vaccines, rely on others around you to be vaccinated for your protection.
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, the point is, the numbers are not available. You, like all doctors, hand waived away what the risks, specifically, of an allergic reaction are. Cross contamination of vaccines is very common so that even doses that shouldn't have components in them do.
But excluding allergies, the question is a good one which is what are the relative risks for an individual.
Doctors and the public health community rarely want to discuss the relative individual risks.
climbtree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell your doctor there's a strong family history of severe reactions to vaccinations or eggs or whatever.
Most won't risk it where I am and we can't sue for malpractice.
Yamitenshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been looking, and it is indeed very hard to find numbers on allergy rates for vaccines. The other risks, however, are pretty well documented and easily accessible, and the possibility of an allergic reaction really shouldn't be a concern without any indication that you specifically have to worry about it - as with all things, the absence of an allergic reaction in the past is no guarantee for the absence of an allergic reaction now, and yet we still happily eat peanuts.
That said, if you are truly predisposed to allergic reactions to components in vaccines, you tell your doctor that, and your doctor just kind of waves and tells you there's nothing to worry about, find a new doctor. This one is shit.
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
VARES is good because it's all out in the open.
I have yet to find a single doctor who will do the work to provide the data. If you ask questions you are a vaccine denier.
mttdesignz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:32:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a neighbour whose child was severely handicapped, which resulted from brain damage after a very high fever when he was an infant, after getting a vaccine shot. It's not the chemicals inside the vaccine that hurts, it's that sometimes, one in a couple billion times, the baby's body will react bad to the vaccine and the fever that generates damages their brains.
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it a one in a couple of billion times?
climbtree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah vaccinations require an immune response or they won't work. Occasionally people will have an anaphylactic reaction too, that's why you have to wait 10 minutes afterwards - or longer if you have a history.
kungtotte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the 80s an estimated 2.5 million deaths per year in the US were attributed to the measles virus, in 2016 the disease was considered to be eradicated.
It didn't just pack up and leave. We vaccinated it out of existence.
fuckbecauseican5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:55:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That figure is quite clearly wrong, considering that the WHO says there were 2.6 million deaths worldwide in 1980
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if that was right, that was then and this now. What is the individual risk today, compared between a given vaccine and the underlying condition?
As a group, it's a slam dunk decision. One on one, it's a very different story.
I've never found a medical doctor who will work with you to get those numbers. 2016 looks like maybe about 62 cases of measles. Were there more adverse reactions than that per 100,000?
its_gonna_be_legen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:52 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are part of the problem. Because one person says "I'm just one person, if I don't get my kid vaccinated, all the other vaccinated people will protect them through herd immunity". But then another person says that.... and another.... and another.... Then we lose herd immunity entirely and we get measles outbreaks at Disneyland.
Obviously there's very few cases of measles now! BECAUSE WE FUCKING VACCINATE. What even is your argument?
floridadude123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:40 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, I get it, as a herd, it's a clear decision. As an individual, it's not a very a good decision, especially if you have an allergy to the ingredients used to stabilize and prepare the vaccine's themselves.
There is barely enough data available to be able to make a rational decision, and for the most part, doctors are unwilling to help you make an informed decision that is not "we fucking vaccinate", just like you did.
Frugalfoodie ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't even tell you how much I respect that.
knittingcratos ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter had an intussusception as well... That shit is scary. It took us 3 days to get any doctors to take us seriously though :( While she didn't have any blood loss she almost lost a part of her bowel because she had it for so long. The theory was that her's happened spontaneously. May I ask what the time frame was between the two? We live in constant paranoia that her's will relapse (due to the length of time her's went untreated.) I am happy to hear your son made it through both times!
TheBoni ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First was in January, second was in August. I'm glad to hear your daughter came through as well. I wish I had some advice or encouragement about a relapse. I'll just hope along with you. The good news is, those little critters are pretty tough.
Pammyhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:38 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copy-pasting so you can have the info, too, even though the thread is several days old. Also, I REALLY hope this doesn't scare you, but it's important to know!
My brother had an intussuseption as an infant. One thing to look out for as your child grows is the possibility of the small intestine kinking up because of adhesions to the abdominal scar tissue, causing a blockage. If it happens there will be intense abdominal pain and no stool will pass. The doctors may very well have gone over this with you, but they didn't with my parents and my brother nearly died when he was 16 as a result. If we knew what was up immediately it wouldn't have been a close call like that. Hence why I pass the knowledge on, not to worry, just to inform.
knittingcratos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:42 on January 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the info! The doctors actually did not go over that bit of information with us (or at least if they did I don't remember, I barely slept due to sick baby/surgery/extended hospital stay for 2 weeks, it was a rough time).
NewBrainTrust ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:18:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I had gold, I would give it to you. I'm glad your son made it.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are a strong and good parent. Just wanted you to know.
DerNachtHuhner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:08:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wish I could give gold. As a childhood leukemia survivor, my immune system was too weak to have some vaccines. I'm so thankful that even after such a near brush with tragedy, you engage in and advocate for rational behavior. Your kids, and every kid who CAN'T get a vaccine, thank you.
stateofcookies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:51:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm happy to report that a year later, my son is just fine except for his need to climb on things and subsequently fall off of them."
This made me chuckle, a very loud, coworker attention getting chuckle. In other words, he's a normal kid. I wish all the best for your son and family.
IWugYouWugHeSheMeWug ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:55:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It comes down to a pretty simple math problem. Between 1 in 20,000 and 1 in 100,000 infants will develop intussusception after getting the vaccine, meaning between 40 and 120 infants will develop the condition each year. On the other hand, 1 in 50 kids who contract rotavirus will end up needing hospitalization, for a grand total of 200,000 emergency room visits each year (before the vaccine was introduced). I'd much rather have a 1 in 20,000 chance of contracting a serious condition than a 1 in 100 chance.
dark_drake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had intussusception when I was about 5 years old. Normal kid. Nothing weird caused it, it just happened. I thought it was because I ate too many pizza crusts.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you eating all the crusts others left behind? The "bones" of the pizza, as it were?
Did you have to have enemas and all? Surgery? I can't imagine that's a pleasant memory. It looks like it hurts a lot.
dark_drake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so fucking weird. I called them pizza bones, yes. Do I know you? This happened about 20 years ago, fyi. And I still call them pizza bones.
My parents were out of town the day it started. We had pizza the night before, I ate a bunch of pizza and the left over crusts. Couple hours later started feeling sick. Spent the night next to the toilet. It started out with the symptoms of a stomach bug. Vomiting and fever.
Parents came home sometime that next morning. Shortly after I started vomiting blood. Then there was blood in my stool. I don't remember much, but I do remember the gut pain. Second worst pain I can remember. This is when I went to the ER.
I don't remember much after being taken the to ER. My parents said the doctors in the ER had trouble figuring it out. Then a pediatric doctor was leaving his shift at the hospital to go to his second shift at the Children's Hospital. He said he knew what this was and to get me up there ASAP.
Supposedly they tried some enemas and other things and it didn't help. Finally went into surgery and the pulled apart the blockage and everything was A-OK. Didn't have to cut any parts out or reattach anything. They took my appendix out while they were in there.
I spent about a month in the hospital post-op. I remember a lot of that. My cousin brought his gameboy for me to keep myself occupied. I played with other kids in the game room. (this is my first memory of playing jenga.) I remember wheeling around my IV stand. I also remember being asked what flavor gas I wanted in the operating room before going under. I also remember counting backward and cold hand on my stomach and coming to with what looked like scotch tape on my stomach. I also remember them pulling the feeding tube out and getting the first taste of real food. It was french toast and eggs.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They took my boy's appendix too. Might as well, mine damn near killed me.
A month in the hospital...yeeshk. Gives me the heebies just thinking about it.
dark_drake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they kept me in the hospital for that long to ensure it didn't happen again.
tsudonimh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:23:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, that's pretty much the usual definition of "fine" for a young boy.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what in was drivin at.
iMuso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:37 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suffered that as well as a 6mo, I wonder if mine was caused by this at all... I'm going to have to ask my mum now. I'm glad he's doing well :D
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My understanding is that it can be caused by a number of things. Like another poster said, sometimes it just happens.
Old-Man-Henderson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let him run and play and climb and jump and fall and get hurt. It's just a natural part of growth. He'll learn his limits, and his youth gives him indane recovery skills and limitless energy. Watch him laugh, and let him be free, because childhood is the only time to truly be free. I rarely that chance because my parents didn't want me to get hurt, and it kind of sucks.
May god stand between your son and harm in all the empty places he walks.
TheBoni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He gets plenty of free reign, not to worry. I have tendencies toward helicopter parenting, but I'm also really lazy, so it evens out.
Samisapirate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister had intussusception as a baby. She was in a coma for several hours while they waited for a pediatric GI specialist before having emergency surgery. She's almost 26 now. She's got intestinal malrotation, all her organs are on the wrong sides, and a gnarly scar pretty much from her sternum to her pelvis, but other than that she's perfectly fine now.
Just figured it might be nice to know that there can be light at the end of that shitty, scary tunnel (:
sailorbuffy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are the real MVP. You understand that even though you were one of the unlucky few, vaccination does more good than harm. Glad to hear your son is healthy now!
Pammyhead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:18:50 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother had an intussuseption as an infant. I'm so glad your kiddo is healthy and well, even though he had a second one!
One thing to look out for as he grows is the possibility of the small intestine kinking up because of adhesions to the abdominal scar tissue, causing a blockage. If it happens there will be intense abdominal pain and no stool will pass. The doctors may very well have gone over this with you, but they didn't with my parents and my brother nearly died when he was 16 as a result. If we knew what was up immediately it wouldn't have been a close call like that. Hence why I pass the knowledge on, not to worry, just to inform.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:47 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We watch his poops pretty closely. Now, I can look forward to having to have the "Son, your poops are more perilous than other people's..." chat.
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, his need to fall off things may not be related. You could just have bad coordination from the genetic side of it.
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, he's just climbing well beyond his skill level to successfully descend.
Vaadwaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, normal?
TheBoni ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bingo.
_LuckyDucky_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rotavirus vaccine wasn't around when I had my kids. My God, I was in hospital with #1 at 3 months of age, she wasn't a good breather (SIDS nearly got the turd) and a little boy (maybe 6 months old) had Rotavirus in a containment room next door. That poor child smelled like he was decaying and decomposing - he nearly died. My daughter got it also, but nowhere near as severe.
I can't believe stupid people would risk their kid getting Rotavirus over fear of an immunisation.
I'm really glad you can still advocate the need for vaccination despite what happened to your little boy, which is an horrific extreme outlier.
Luvagoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are an excellent human being.
DonnaLombarda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Secure things like forniture to the wall with nails or screws. I know it looks mental, but I used to climb on things too and my parents had to secure everything after a heavy shoe rack fell on me. Half of my body was covered in bruises.
imghurrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If he had a second one does that mean it's less likely it's from the vaccine? Any evidence linking the rotavirus vaccine with intussusception?
TheBoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. The CDC lists it as a side effect and both doctors agreed that was the likely cause the first time. I honestly don't know what if any effect it had on the second time. Intussusception can be caused by a few different things. We know the second one was virus related because they removed the troubling patch of growths which the intestine grabbed on to.
In short, not an expert, can't really say.
aduuuuumb ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 01:57:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never had the flu before.... Until a few weeks ago.
I never thought it was a big deal to get the shot because I've never dealt with it, even with all the recommendations.
Que to me laying in this ER on Christmas with a 103* fever, and the rest of the symptoms. Doctor proceeds to spend 20 minutes lecturing me on how the shot could have prevented this.
I'm waiting on two ER bills, one for me and one for my girlfriend. We both caught it. Spent Christmas week in bed and miserable.
Gorfob ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 02:10:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Proper flu is incredibly taxing on your body. There is a reason certain strains kill millions of people.
Flinkle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:09:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and people love to call a bad cold "the flu." I've had friends ask me what the flu is like. My answer is always, "Unless you literally think you may be dying, you don't have the flu."
wizzardly ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:42:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then you have me, who had the flu back in high school (caused a three month? chest infection) and was when we discovered I had infection induced asthma. But had never had a cold until 2012 (I was... 23?) and was sent from a convention to hospital via an ambulance due to a fever of 39.6? asthma attack wouldn't quit and was tachy.
And was stuck in quarantine for 3 days. (did get moved to a lovely room on the second day though) And what was the verdict? Oh... you had a really bad cold. XD even the nurse thought it was funny. It doesn't help that I arrived in full costume and thats all I had to wear for those three days.
The only thing that came out of that was finally someone giving me an asthma plan and learning I dehydrate easily. (due to over medical reasons)
But I'm probably an outlier and should not be counted lol.
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy.
I didn't get the flu, just my own brand of "fuck you."
Still wouldn't want to be in those shoes. Lol
wizzardly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:43 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or rather furry hobbit feet in my case, lol. I do feel sorry for the person who cleaned the quarantine area after, seeing the remains in the bed or the floor. (they mysteriously disappeared)
Moglorosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:15:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My bout happened in college. I woke up, got out of bed, and immediately crashed to the floor. Spent the next week living on a futon mattress next to the bathroom because standing and walking was beyond my ability. It's the only time I've ever had a doctor make a house call.
aduuuuumb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Proper flu. Was tested for it and confirmed. I've usually dealt with colds and been able to work through them. This one had me in bed for two days and I decided I had, had enough of this shit. Took me 3 hours to force myself out of bed and drive to the doctor. Putting on pants had never been so tiring. Lol
Flinkle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, so true. "Oh my god please don't make me get up and go to the bathroom AGAIN!"
Gorfob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse and I have used pretty much that exact phrase with a patient before.
They then demanded antibiotics and I'm like "kill me now"
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This!
Even weeks later, I still have limited capacity of what I can do. I have a job that is very physical/labor intensive. Diesel mechanic. I've only recently started making my complete work day without feeling completely burnt out mid day. I'm still going home and sleeping more than usual. It's getting better though.
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 02:49:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair the flu shot might not have helped you. The influenza virus likes to play around with its genetics constantly, the virus infects using 8 strands of RNA. The best hosts with little to no symptoms are birds, and when infected with multiple strains you get recombination, the RNAs get mixed up basically.
With that knowledge in tow, each year the flu strains are predicted. If they predict them wrong, most people won't be protected despite getting the shot and even if you predict them right you can't vaccinate for them all. If you're the unlucky person that gets a fancy different strain it also sucks to be you. That's why its most often recommended for those in hospitals or the ones most at risk of dying, the average person is kinda hit or miss with the flu shot either way.
VeryShibes ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is correct, I got a flu shot in November (a week before Thanksgiving) and still got the flu a couple days after Christmas. Just as you said, it seems a new strain evolved this year and beat the vaccine. My whole family got it this year. We probably all gave it to each other over Christmas dinner :-P
Off-topic soapbox moment: It is a source of deep disappointment and sadness to me that we see an organism demonstrating evolution to us every single year right before our eyes and still half the US population believes evolution is a hoax
SixthFall ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:04:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell you can demonstrate evolution in a couple days with a petri dish and some non pathogenic e.coli. it's pretty insane
Moglorosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:23:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nitpick: a virus can't conclusively be referred to as an organism, or a living thing at all. They're more akin to naturally occurring nanites than anything.
Dragoness42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my experience, very few people who disbelieve evolution actually understand what evolution really is. They just say, "I didn't come from a monkey!"
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But they'll compare others to hairless apes....
I've had the privilege of meeting these wonderful people.
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:31 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Evolution is a hoax!
The Flu is created by the government to limit the population and kill off the sick!!!
Note: It's a joke...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeahhhhh, I personally only met a creationist once, it was...interesting. Mind you, its not always evolution, its just the circulating strains change from year to year too evolution or not. We can't vaccinate against them all so scientists pick a few and pray they didn't fuck up their guess. "SWAG. (Scientific Wild Assed Guess)." as aduuuuumb posted.
Unfortunately plenty of doctors don't exactly need to take virology classes or just don't remember them and become flabbergasted when a patient who had the flu shot gets the flu. It ain't the same flu as what the shot protects you against, nothing more.
As an aside, I personally avoid the shot. I generally don't get the flu to begin with since I start quarantining myself away from people more should they show any sign of being sick and I rather not deal with the flu shot side effects Ill get whether or not I get the illness I'm supposed to be protected against. Me and vaccines don't get along too well now for whatever reason, age related vaccine side effect crappiness? Blah.
Katemaree ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:39:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get a flu shot every year. I ended up with the worst case of the flu that I've every experienced about two years ago. I ended up at the doctors twice and I told the doctor that I couldn't believe how sick I was,with having had a flu shot. He basically said the same, that there are different strains evolving all the time.
aduuuuumb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:38 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aka, you could have protection for every possible ailment, but every once in a while, mother nature delivers a very special brand of "fuck you." This time, you're the lucky one...
I would love (yet hate) to hear a medical professional explain that to someone.
amp_it ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:19:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, a few years ago I got the flu about a week after getting the flu shot. My immune system was shitty to begin with after a round of steroids and I managed to catch a rarer influenza B that hadn't been in the shot that year. It was just shitty luck and I still think flu shots are a good idea. What was even shittier luck was that I actually managed to catch mono and Lyme disease at the same time too. I was taking a medical microbiology class and my professor didn't even believe my doctor's note at first hah That was a miserable month.
aduuuuumb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The shot is just someone's prediction that they were able to determine what's going to be around.
It's a risk, gamble, probability or SWAG. (Scientific Wild Assed Guess). We can't market it as an educated guess because nobody would believe it's worthwhile.
Similar to the meteorologists in South Florida.
"Welcome to sunny south Florida! If you look at the weather map here, we won't be getting hit by Hurricane Derpette." All while their studio is being blown to bits by hurricane force winds...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the flu once when I was 16 and I have not missed getting a flu shot a single year since then (13 years now). That is easily the worse I have every felt in my entire life. Even if the flu shot doesn't completely immunize me from the strain that is going around that year, it could still at least lessen the severity of the illness. The same year that I got the flu, my parents had both gotten their flu shots about a week and a half before I got sick. They both developed some low grade fevers and body aches a few days after I started showing symptoms, but they were clearly dealing with a much wimpier version of the illness, while it was totally kicking my unimmunized ass.
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have been hospitalized with pneumonia before. The flu is worse. For me, it's probably the fever that had me down the worst. With pneumonia, I felt "normal," but the fluid on my lungs just made it very uncomfortable. I was up and about (in the hospital, of course) just had a severely limited lung capacity.
dell_55 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:59:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a hospital and am required to get it. I would anyway, really. We had a flu outbreak in our office. 4 ended up with pneumonia and 3 with bronchitis on top of it. I wore an N95 mask and washed/sanitized my hands all day. I still got the flu.whatever strand this is/was, it's crazy. There's also an outbreak of mumps in this state right now.
aduuuuumb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ER doctor said there was an outbreak in my area recently. He said he had more than a few cases in a couple days surrounding my visit.
I went to a Christmas party, 7 of 13 of us caught the flu. I don't know who introduced it, but I'm not very happy with the outcome.
SarahMakesYouStrong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly assumed I had had the flu before. I've been sick. I've had fever and nausea and other such symptoms...and then I got the flu and understood how people die from it and knew I had never actually had it before.
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. Flu is a different kind of miserable. Do not want!
sedaak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The flu shot has something like 40% coverage of the season's strains. It is no guarantee. Not even close.
Iirc they track something like 15 to 40 strains each year, and they are usually unique year to year. At least unique enough to require new vaccines.
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand what you're saying. I think they place different vaccinations, geographically, according to popular strands per region.
I may be very wrong, but it was explained to me like that once.
But I know the shot doesn't cover everything.
eazolan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While you're recovering, look up the history of "The flu". Also known as Influenza.
Try and get something that covered the 1918 epidemic that killed over 50 million people.
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are many diseases that have killed thousands/millions. After catching the flu, I can see how one's condition can rapidly deteriorate if not treated properly.
I'll take a look into it.
Edit: killed, not liked...
eazolan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:22:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol "Liked".
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I fixed that typo. Lol
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had more than a 24 hour flu, never got a shot. When I was a kid my family never got the shots because it wasn't (and honestly, still isn't) a big deal but one of my mother's excuses, if asked, was that some family friends who got their flu shots every year each got a week long flu almost every year anyway whereas we never had more than just a day long virus.
Edit: 24 hour flu is just the best name I have for it since I have my clue what it actually was. Also, I know my mother's reasoning there was wrong but I was like 10-11 when she said that.
avrenak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:51:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"24 hour flu" is not influenza. You're talking about completely different viruses. And no, the flu shot does not give you the flu.
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:16:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know it doesn't that was just my mother's excuse and I was too young to know any better at the time. And I've always been told the 24 hour virus like that was the flu but have never actually found out for sure so that's just me running off the only name I have for it.
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
24 hour flu is not a thing(at least that I know of). I wish it were. There may have been something else that had you sick.
You'll know when the flu hits as the doctor will have you tested for it.
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I said in the edit, I don't know what it actually is but that's what my family always called it so it's the only name I have for it. You are right though, flu could be much better if it was only 24 hours instead of a week.
2074red2074 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Microbiology professor doesn't even get flu shots. She's super pro-vax (except she thinks MMR should be three separate doses) but she doesn't think the vaccine is worth her time. And she's had the flu before.
legone ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:29:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For most people it's gonna be free. You can get it at CVS or Walgreens and it takes maybe half an hour. I got a 20% off coupon at CVS. If they predict the strain correctly it could save you the time and hassel of a meh flu illness, or save you from a life threatening bout. If you work hourly, you're gonna lose money. You might have to use sick days.
There's really no reason to not swing by on a Saturday morning when it's probably free or really cheap.
Lochtide7 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean "flu" or Influenza virus respiratory tract infection.
Technetium_Hat ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Influenza
gotย it?
aduuuuumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flu, as in Influenza "A." At least that's how they referred to it once they swabbed and tested for it.
I know the A is probably the definition of a specific strand, but it's still flu.
raezefie ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 02:05:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a pharmacist, people not taking my advice gets to me just for this reason. I just wanna shake a person sometimes and say 'Look, I have a doctorate in this, okay? I think you should listen to me.' I feel your pain.
sitaenterprises ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 02:08:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Little coffins in frog green and fire engine red.
tempezt42 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh House M.D. <3
UndeadKitten ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 01:29:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you feel about splitting the MMR? (Aka, three shots instead of the one combo) The pediatrician who did my cousins' vaccines did that for one of them because she was "frail" (his exact words "I think we should spread this out and split the MMR because she's a frail little girl.") but since I was 12 I never really got why that mattered.
And before you think I'm arguing with you, I'm not. I am very pro-vaccines, our family lost a baby to whooping cough when his 9 year old, unvaccinated aunt passed it along to him. You just sound like you know things and why my cousin ended up with 3 shots over a couple months instead of one like her brother has bugged me for 10+ years.
dfgnsmnbdmnsv ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 02:04:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Live vaccines can actually make you quite sick since the virus has not been inactivated. Doc just wanted to let the kid deal with one weakened virus at a time and not all 3.
UndeadKitten ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, thanks. That makes sense.
Why do I think vaccines are dead? Like they're dead germs blended into pieces or something?
I'm 28 and I have no clue about this. I know nasal flu vaccine is alive, but is the shot?
kate94 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 02:17:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I believe many vaccines are dead. It just so happens MMR is a live vaccine
UndeadKitten ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:20:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, that makes sense.
I think I'm secretly convinced medicine is magical. I mean I understand a lot of things about medical science, but deep, deep down I kinda think vaccines and antibiotics are magic so it doesn't occur to me to really think about it. When I do I realize I have big gaps in my understanding.
OxfordDictionary ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:46:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a video series on the immune system you might like.
Joey_Blau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I knew most of the 3 episodes but great detail and presentation.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please no, calling it alive or dead is a gross oversimplification.
Viruses arguably don't have the components to ever be considered alive. If you think they are alive, then let's talk about prions and everything is out the window. The question is whether their capsule is still intact so to speak. You could even think of viruses as syringes, they are little more than a capsule of genetic material that tries to inject itself by chemical means into your cells. By try I just mean random chance it happens to get stuck.
Now you'll get mixed answers from doctors and medical students because the line between what qualifies as life or a simple chemical reaction is straddled by viruses and prions.
muchasgaseous ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:20:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey UndeadKitten, not the OP, but I am a medical student. Here's a great page that discusses the different types of vaccines you can receive:
https://www.vaccines.gov/more_info/types/
The flu injected vaccine is dead, unlike the nasal spray vaccine (which is weakened and live). Fun fact: the nasal spray is not effective this year, thus why it should not have been available to people.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm
UndeadKitten ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the needle every year because while I hate needles, I hate things in my nose worse. So not sure if they were available this year or not. I got into the habit because of "frail" cousin, then continued because I worked with elderly folks. Now I guess I could skip it, but its a habit, ya know?
I think Subunit Vaccines are the ones I thought were dead and "blended" because it says they are just part of a microbe instead of the whole thing so that might be why I thought they got cut up. That's an interesting page...
And I should probably get a tetanus shot at some point soon. I'm 10 years from my last one.
ziburinis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, you could skip the flu vaccine, but who the hell wants the flu?
UndeadKitten ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, no one really. Hence why I still get it.
But I'm not protecting any immunosuppressed people anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SixthFall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Id rather deal with some hald assed symptoms for a day or two than be bed ridden for a week. The flu is freaking awful
muchasgaseous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the shot every year, in part because my job/employer mandate it, but in part because it's a simple intervention to stave off potentially cruddy consequences. I've never tried the nasal mist.
I'd recommend getting your tetanus shot for sure. :)
Lochtide7 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:25:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A dead vaccine is properly called attenuated, and that virus lost its damage causing portion but its DNA can still be recognized by your white blood cells, making future presentations of that virus be destroyed quickly.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a dead vaccine is better called inactivated. Attenuated means weakened, hence the word live attenuated vaccine. You do not want your vaccine particles to cause the disease.
Furthermore, the genetic portion depends on the virus, just adding because I'm a student for this stuff. They go by Baltimore classification: http://www.virology.ws/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/baltimore-classification.jpg The link is an image for it. There exist a large number of RNA viruses, only retroviruses make DNA from the initial RNA. Just for future knowledge.
EDIT: The Baltimore classification might seem redundant because it outlines the path to mRNA(so it can make all its proteins) and not necessarily replication.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not according to https://www.vaccines.gov/more_info/types/
They specifically make a distinction between live and attenuated, live, and dead (inactivated). I claim the words live and dead are only used as an oversimplification in communicating to normal people.
For people that really want to understand, what attenuation vs inactivation actually does is really, really important.
SnarfraTheEverliving ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
attenuated is a weakened form. basically they teach it to not grow by growing the bacteria in a very hostile environement for a long term untill it basically replecates very slowly. This is the least ideal form of vaccine as it can get you sick and requires you to be growing these weakened vaccines and transporting it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well some vaccines ARE parts of viruses or germs that contain a specific part of it that the body will form antibodies against, like a specific protein or carbohydrate of that virus. These are called subunit vaccines or conjugate vaccines.
Examples of this type of vaccine include:
Hepatitis B
Influenza
Haemophilus Influenzae
Pertussis (part of DTaP combined immunization)
Pneumococcal
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Meningococcal
There are some vaccines that are the dead germ killed With heat treatment or chemicals. These are called inactivated vaccines.
Examples of this type of vaccine include
Polio (IPV)
Hepatitis A
Rabies
Source for different types of vaccines -http://www.publichealth.org/public-awareness/understanding-vaccines/vaccines-work/
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because viruses are not ever alive. Sometimes they are "cut" apart, so to speak.
creedbrattonage30 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:18:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the other poster whose name I can't be bothered to type out said, it's because vaccines can make you ill initially and so for a frail person it makes some sense to space them out/lessen the blow. I'm a healthy 24 year-old, recently had to have a Meningitis top-up and my body ached for a week. It was worth it (the third person this year on my campus was recently diagnosed with bacterial meningitis) but just one of those things.
UndeadKitten ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:21:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense to me. She was pretty darn sickly, I used to sleep in a rocking chair with her against my chest so she could breathe. (Laying down she struggled sometimes, being propped up helped and the doctor told us we should do it. But I was relieved when she was able to sleep in the crib.)
sedaak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hugely beneficial to limit the components that anti-vaxxers complain about. If you split up the dosing all the valid complaints I've ever heard go away.
However, it also reveals how stupid it is to go to a doctors office for a single injection. Do we really need a doctor to look at the CDC chart for you? All we need is an accurate chronology.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you split up the vaccines, then you actually end up giving the kids more of many of the things that antivaxxers worry about. Preservatives and adjuvents are in each vaccine, and if you give them one shot that vaccinates against three different bugs, they only get one dose of the preservatives and adjuvents. If you split that up in the three shots, then they will get three doses of those extra ingredients. Splitting up vaccines means more of the scary sounding chemicals being injected into kids.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you back that up with numbers? That is completely contrary to everything I've read from the CDC. I've linked a citation below. If you do a search for adjuvant, like you cited, it is always listed per vaccine, with the combination vaccines containing significantly more.
Many vaccines don't contain thimerosal at all. Is there another preservative that we can look at to validate your claim?
Here is one example: http://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/aluminum
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some children actually can't be vaccinated at all due to having immune system issues and otherwise being very sick. One of the most heartbreaking things ever was when a close friend had a family member with a small child who had beat some incredible odds and was finally out of the NICU and got to come home and was just starting to thrive when she caught whooping cough and it was months of touch and go and in and out of hospitals and off to more specialized hospitals. Terrifying stuff.
That's also why the whole herd immunity thing is so important. There will always be some who are unable to be vaccinated but if a high enough percentage of the rest of community is that's okay, these diseases won't spread. With so many folks opting out for these bullshit reasons it's extremely dangerous for the most fragile of children who have no choice on whether to be vaccinated or not.
I know nothing as far as splitting vaccines up and if it truly makes much difference but definitely a thing to be cautious with sicker children.
UndeadKitten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whooping cough is so frightening. Seriously.
And the vaccine is nothing, I have some of the worst lungs ever (I used to think pneumonia was like a cold, totally harmless and common. Because I got it 2-9 times a year so it must be! Ha. Nope, I just have shitty lungs.) and the whooping cough vaccine didn't affect me at all. No fever, no cough, just a prick in the hip and X days later it was safe for me to care for my immune suppressed granddad.
I give side eye to people who won't vaccinate their healthy kids. I've been around too many who weren't healthy and we had to go through hoops to get them vaxxed and safe. (Its genetic too, my granddad when he found out there was a polio vaccine borrowed a van and as much money as he could and drove with his brother and all their kids to get them vaccinated a couple states over. They'd already had one child, my mom's cousin, get polio and damned if they were gonna let it happen again.)
love_is_life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea they could do this. My son reacted badly to this vaccine and almost went into febrile fever territory. We took him to the ER because he was delirious and we couldn't get the fever to break. Rotating meds every three hours finally did it but God, it was awful and scary.
lemonade_eyescream ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 02:06:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I fucking hate the crap that keeps getting reposted on social media.
squirrelhaven ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 01:49:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a bumper sticker today that said "Pro-Science. Pro-Health. Anti-Vaccine." Yeah, those things don't make sense together.
UncleGeorge ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:48:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pro-health? What the fuck is that? As opposed to what? Pro-Sick?
MurgleMcGurgle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is what they actually are.
sedaak ยท -66 points ยท Posted at 03:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It must feel good to automatically dismiss people who believe they have discovered enough scientific evidence to feel differently than you.
Tu_mama_me_ama_mucho ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:27:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No amount of your amateur "research" is going to be better than a proper medical/scientific education.
Flinkle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:29:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, I really want to agree with you in the context of this conversation, but after seven years of being sick, and seeing multiple doctors who would not listen to me when I kept telling them the things that were wrong with me, and was FINALLY vindicated by a head nurse and a doctor who actually knew their asses from holes in the ground...I can't. The only reason I have recovered as much as I have--from an undetected magnesium deficiency which caused a system-wide crash and all sorts of debilitating health problems--is due to my own unending hours of research. Why is it that I can use Google to find out that magnesium is tightly controlled by the body and deficiencies don't show up in serum blood tests unless you're literally about to die, but doctors who went to med school and have practiced for years don't seem to know, care or listen? All of this, due to years PPI meds for reflux. "Oh they're safe," I kept being told. Right.
I am not justifying anti-vaxxers here. At all. They are relying on a single false study and a washed-up TV bimbo for "evidence." But I will be the first to tell you that doctors can be clueless and stubborn when presented with things they don't see very often--including the uveitis that I was told was pinkeye. Good thing I knew better and went to an ophthalmologist or I could've gone blind. The number of things I have properly diagnosed myself with that multiple doctors completely ignored when I handed them the fucking diagnoses is embarrassing--hypothyroidism, the mag deficiency, idiopathic postprandial syndrome, gallstones, urticarial vasculitis...the ONLY reason I'm not bedridden like I was a few years ago is all because of my own research. I finally have a decent doctor now who actually listens and doesn't shrug shit off like the rest of them did, isn't afraid to say "I don't know," and isn't threatened when I come in with my own research. He says that even if I'm wrong, it gives him a starting point to work with.
I have no doubt that if I had listened to my previous doctors, I'd be dead now.
sedaak ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 04:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No amount of education is going to be better than a proper peer-reviewed study distributed, discussed, and accepted by the scientific community. Bashing people who question science is bashing the scientific process itself. The proper response is, "Why do you feel that way?"
ihave_problems ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:50:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I said I was pro-science and pro-health, then went about arguing that sterilization of surgical tools prior to an operation was not only unnecessary, but dangerous, you would call me an idiot too.
It's like someone saying they're "Pro-mathematics" but also "Pro- 1+1=4," they're contradictory statements and you look like an idiot when you say them.
sedaak ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 08:19:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If someone whom I respected told me 1+1=4 I'd first ask why they would bother with something seemingly contradictory, and then the mathematical proof.
Instead it seems the reddit masses automatically attack any deviance from group think.
Take the EM drive for example. That scientist/engineer has had to really struggle to get it accepted even though he has a functioning prototype. It seems to defy conservation principles, but it is true and it works. It required a lot of open minds to finally get it to NASA and officially tested.
I'll gladly take the insults knowing that I'm standing up for science against group think.
ihave_problems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The issue with that is by your logic, there are no stupid claims. Pigs can fly, evolution doesn't exist, the US government brought down the WTC with a controlled demolition. You claim that one has to respect those claims even though they're made with no scientific evidence or proof, yet the very nature of these statements implies that these people continue to believe in phony evidence or insane conspiracies that have already thoroughly been debunked multiple times.
The only controversy regarding the MMR vaccine, for example, is a purported link to autism. Despite the fact that this has been thoroughly proven to be false, people continue to believe it. Are you saying that these ignorant fools who will happily risk their children's health in order to maintain their egos should command respect? You're claiming that we have to assume that they're knowledgable in the scientific method, that they somehow have new evidence that the scientific world hasn't grasped yet, and they're posting the results on the bumper of their car and not contacting various journals?
You are trying to say that you need scientific evidence to prove somebody is or is not an idiot. You're not a martyr, you're just wrong.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, not necessarily, as there is controversy separately about mercury. There is also controversy separately about aluminum. There is a lot of discussion why there is not more in depth studies of aluminum, but nothing particularly compelling on either side.
One of the proposed effects, autism, probably has never even been compensated by HRSA. But that data isn't published so it is rather hard to prove either way.
There are a bunch of other confirmed side effects, and proposed side effects. They are just rare enough that HRSA covers them and we go on with our lives.
ihave_problems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The MMR vaccine does not contain mercury. People commonly believe that it contains thimerosal but there has never been thimerosal in the MMR vaccine as it is a live culture. Thimerosal hasn't been used in vaccines since the early 1990's. Of all the routinely recommended vaccines in the US, only one has mercury and that's the inactivated influenza vaccine. This has been one of the leading reasons why people believe the MMR-Autism link but once again, it is based entirely in fantasy.
In regards to aluminum, no live, viral vaccine contains aluminum including the MMR vaccine so it is also irrelevant to the point I was making.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so your claims are valid for MMR... it has no controversy that I am aware of. I think it is awesome that you are willing to discuss individual vaccines. Just being able to explore that gets the crowd back to science.
ihave_problems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. Have a good day.
EyesOfEnder ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:47:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When that "scientific evidence" is one falsified study by a sue happy doctor who lost his medical license and had all his credentials revoked, yeah I have no problem dismissing that.
sedaak ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 05:11:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are you sure that is what they would cite if you asked them? That seems awfully convenient.
EyesOfEnder ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:18:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because I wrote a paper on this and that is the only scientific study done that finds evidence that vaccines cause autism (and it has since been redacted because he lied). Literally every other study done says otherwise. So they're either citing that study or Jenny McCarthy, not sure which is worse tbh.
lilmommy89 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the anti-vaxxer.
sedaak ยท -30 points ยท Posted at 04:26:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, wrong again! Must be good to automatically label anyone who wants to understand the science as dismissing the findings!
falls_asleep_reading ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 01:04:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I deeply and sincerely regret that I can only upvote this once.
DeadLannister ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ditto
Valscorn ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 01:59:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: Andrew Wakefield is a scumbag and a pos.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 03:04:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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logosobscura ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost akin to 'I didn't call your Mum a whore, I merely spoke to everyone down the pub who all say she is, and it warrants further investigation'. Deserves the same reaction.
He also did assert it multiple times (saw him do it on live TV), it's a big reason why he lost his license to practice in the U.K. I sincerely hope he gets necrotising fasciitis of his scrotum for all the damage caused and how far he put back both vaccination and autism research (funnily enough one lying bastard wasting research money makes them less generous when genuine research opportunities come up).
Note: father of an autistic son. Repeatedly have been asked why I vaccinated my son and that it probably caused it (no, really. No idea why they expect to survive those words passing their lips...)
BadBetting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That really is unfortunate. I watch very little TV and wasn't paying attention to this issue when it initially occured as I didn't expect anybody would truly believe it at the time.
climbtree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is what Wakefield said but it was never an official charge. The main issue was fairly severe ethical issues in the research method, including giving autistic kids invasive procedures (spinal taps and colonoscopies) without proper justification.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Molefields? Or molehills? It is a pretty big difference and you could mean either. Molehills are the normal choice.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:30:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but there is a strong visual of an entire prairie wiped of edible plant life.
nickofknox ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 00:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I didn't know any better, I would think Jenny McCarthy works for the CIA and this is a population control method. Only the lowest of the gene pool would take major health tips from a washed up model.
legone ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish it only hurt those who voluntarily didn't vaccinate. :(
Fidesphilio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:37:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmmm, I wonder if we could get 4Chan to take this up and have them go crazy with it. Maybe have those ratfucks actually do a good thing for once in their useless lives....
Humpfinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh they sometimes have their halve decent moments, they caught a few assholes here and there.
itsabadbadworld ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are these the same people who voted this year, quite possibly for the first time.
tuga2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually they are usually upper middle class or upper class. Look at where outbreaks of preventable illnesses like measels break out and it very common in Portland and California.
sedaak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:57:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you looked into it? They do cite studies, which have then been debunked. It is bad science, not mysticism, that led them down that path.
actuallobster ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:01:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to have to assume you mean 2016...
Dason37 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:47:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, 2017. This year said "oh, you're gonna bitch about losing a couple hundred famous people? How about some measles for everyone! Still glad 2016 is over?"
EsQuiteMexican ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:42:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't you hear? Florida just had a huge population drop.
tuga2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most outbreaks are in California if I'm not mistaken. Everyone assumes it's stupid rednecks who think Jesus told them not take their vaccines but it's generally upermiddle class people with an above average education.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whoosh
Not_Well_Prepared ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:32:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should be the #1 post in this thread
raine_hinata ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:54:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I'm a relatively new mom(little miss is 16 months old) and every single doctors appointment we've had to take her to you could tell that the doctor was gearing up for an argument when it came to vaccinations. The visible relief that came over thier face when both me and my husband were like we know thats all a bunch of bullshit and that modern medicine is around for a reason, you go ahead and give her any shot you want. We're big fans of her being alive.
It's insane that it's even an argument.
thesimpletoncomplex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my good friends from high school became a registered nurse. At some point, she bought into the anti-vax movement. She's not as vocal about it now as she is about being anti-circumcision, but I desperately want a way to get it through to her the potential for harm she has presented to her children - potential harm that grows with every other misinformed parent that denies their child the protections granted by immunization.
I don't get it. She's a smart girl. But the impact misinformation-via-Internet has presented to our otherwise well-educated public is mind-boggling.
I honestly believe the medical community should take a hard stance on the subject. Her professional position puts her in a spot to have a strong impact on impressionable minds. If only I could get her to understand her lack of critical thinking without potentially sacrificing our friendship. :(
theonewhogroks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:16:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not from the US, but my pediatrician was convinced that colds were caused by not putting a hat on in cold weather. If it wasn't for my internet research, I wouldn't know better either. The problem is not people doing internet research, it's people doing internet research badly and coming to the wrong conclusion.
YourBoyFrodoge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bull shit, this 12 year old says autism is caused by vaccines, nice try!
Source: http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/this-kid-perfectly-sums-evidence-autism-and-vaccinations/
Can't fool this guy.
SurprisedPotato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aussie here: tell me, what should I do if I meet a practicing medical doctor who believes vaccines are harmful? At least, she alleges she's a medical doctor. The cognitive dissonance makes this hard for me to believe.
BadBetting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that but wakefield himself has said that he hadn't intended for the vaccine to be lead to autism just that further research would have needed to be done to even draw a conclusion. On the otherhand he deserved to lose his license with the treatment of the study anyways.
Marysthrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had somebody on my page link the growing number of vaccines to the growing number of autism diagnoses. I replied "I don't want to debate you on this, but is it possible that there are just more people getting kids diagnosed now that they don't need to worry about threats of their child being institutionalized? Because I know for sure, if my son displayed the symptoms now and the way to deal with it is to put him in an institution, I wouldn't have had him diagnosed. Correlation does not equal causation"
ineedthatcat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Yes. Seriously people. Get it through your damn heads. Every journal article saying vaccines and autism are linked references Wakefield's work, which was complete crap.
ArrrOne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This grinds my gears. I know an otherwise very intelligent woman with numerous kids who won't vaccinate any of them. She's convinced that there is a link between autism and vaccines. When I told her I thought the research was dodgy and couldn't possible be credible based on such a small sample size, she insisted on anecdotal evidence about a family she knows with a severely autistic child.
It's maddening.
sunglasstans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not vaccinated but I'm 17 now and have still never received any type of vaccination. Is there anything I should get or is it something I should just let be?
thingsorfreedom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Four vaccines are still really important.
MMR
Tdap (for tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis)
Hepatitis B
Gardasil (for HPV)
If you haven't had chicken pox then add varicella vaccine because getting chicken pox as an adult is not fun at all.
Other vaccines you should consider though the odds of getting these illnesses is small.
WiFiForeheadWrinkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go to your doctor and get caught up. With how many people are anti-vaccination now, herd immunity won't be as effective as it should be.
Sniggy_Wote ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My kid was a week shy of his final booster for strep pneumonia and got a rare case of it in his right kidney. By the time they figured out the problem, he was going septic. Then an IV accident in hospital almost caused him to lose his arm -- as it is, he's still scarred and it's been over a decade.
Two weeks later, with his final booster complete, he might not have caught that and we would have been saved hospital visits, accidents, and literally months of follow up.
It wasn't our fault, we were on schedule with vaccines. We just hadn't finished the regime because of his age.
We were pro vaccine before and now I tell this horror story to anyone who even considers not vaccinating. It was one of the worst experiences of my life, and my kid is fine now. It could have been so much worse.
ashadowwolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A family friend had 4 kids. Apparently all of them were born without autism but after the last kid got a vaccination (I don't recall which one) at 4 months old, "signs of autism" started showing i.e. "he was acting weird" and she believes the vaccine gave her son autism. Mum believes it.
I just... Do you ever think that he started showing signs around that age? Kids don't usually start showing signs until 6 months to a year or so. I was a child when that happened but my mum brings it up every now and again and I just sigh. I really hope that child got all his vaccinations.
DerProfessor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too true...
...but think of it from the bigger picture.
There were doctors and medical researchers who swore (while on Big Tobacco's payroll) that there was no link between cigarette smoking and cigarettes.
There have been tens of thousands of medical researchers and doctors who have testified in a court of law that "there is no conclusive evidence that x is harmful" where x = lead paint, asbestos, DDT, thalidomide, saccharine, corn syrup, and on and on. And a much larger number of doctors stood on the sidelines, because the evidence was "conflicting."
People know that the medical profession is corruptible because it has repeatedly been corrupted.
So, while the anti-vaxxers are nutjobs (I think), they are tapping into some terrifyingly real fears.
Which is in no way your fault! But it makes it less incomprehensible.
Keep fighting the good fight.
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt claims to have done 17 years of research on the subject. She claims that there isn't a single independent study that isn't government influenced (because of corruption, because doctors get paid to do their jobs, apparently).
It took me all of 15 seconds to google scholar about 100 papers. I told her that I bet my ass she won't read a single one.
She hasn't.
spaghatta111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Oh really? You're a doctor?
Well let me tell YOU something. You just work for a damn paycheck!"
Lol
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
literally her argument for corruption.
"Did you know doctors get paid to vaccinate children!?!?"
"Uhh, they get paid to do their jobs?"
spaghatta111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting paid off by their employer to do what they were employed to do. Reprehensible.
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, right?!? Some Agenda 21 shit, there!!!!!!!!!11
spaghatta111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sell outs, those doctors. They should all be not for profit
jbarnes222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow tbh, I would've thought that in twins if one has autism then the other has autism 100% of the time. I thought it was entirely genetic.
OneDerangedLlama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, autism!
creedbrattonage30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish this post was permanently displayed in huge letters on every billboard, bus, advertising screen, etc in the world. We are killing each other by bringing back long gone diseases due to one FALSE claim. Makes me so scared and angry.
HotPickledOkra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Missed bullet: Jenny McCarthy is ok with injecting her face full of Botox, not your kid with a vaccine.
LordDigBick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amen <3
stacyah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to clarify: Andrew Wakefield didn't produce any research linking autism to MMR vaccine. The conclusion of his paper was "we have NOT proved any link between the MMR vaccine and autism (or the GI tract symptom complex.)" That being said, that was the general message spread after publication.
notdrunk_yet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, I love this.
DrMonkeyLove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jenny McCarthy is an utter piece of shit and I will be glad when she's dead. I hope she dies painfully too.
thefrostedfoxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a girl who is a nurse, that refuses to vaccinate her other children because she thinks vaccines caused her 1st born to have asthma. It couldn't be the fact that she smoked throughout her entire pregnancy and thereafter. To top it off, she's 8 months pregnant and just announced she hasn't smoked in 4 months. Smh.
Dason37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is allergic to the pertussis part of the TDaP or whatever it's called, it almost killed her as a child. When it came time for our daughters first rounds (she was so tiny, like 3 months, at the most 6, I don't remember the scheduling), my wife brought this up with the pediatrician, and asked if there were separated versions where we could skip the one part she might be allergic to. The doctor was extremely nonchalant about it, said sure there were, but let's just give her the normal one. We can watch her for a minute to make sure she's ok. Made me angry. Nothing happened, and I'm not anti-vax, I just think maybe she could have been a little safer...if the kid had a reaction I don't think they were equipped to save her life at the pediatrician s office
coopiecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Parents that listen to Jenny McCarthy are idiots!
ezekiellake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, who fucking cares what Jenny McCarthy thinks? Fuck, grab a brain people.
JesusIsMyZoloft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'#4 is worded slightly ambiguously. Did you mean to say in 75% of cases where one identical twin has autism, the other one has it too?
TitaniumDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder sometimes if it would be more effective to just start a rumor that Jenny McCarthy is part of some sick death cult or is profiting off of dead babies or something.
coolreader18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if I were to have identical twins, there's a 75% chance they'll have autism?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i have a cousin who's a major anti-vaxxer and it kills my mother, who has a bachelors in health technology.
i don't think she takes the 'vaccines cause autism' (i've never cared to start the fight about it) route but she's very much a 'clean living' type and anything with 'chemicals' is bad for the body. like i guess if you can't pronounce it it's not good for you?
TEKNOPARADOX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not the hero we deserve but the hero we need.
zim3019 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love my pediatrician office for so many reasons. One of which is the sign in every office and out front that basically says if you don't vaccinate your kids they won't keep you as a patient. Unless you have a medically valid reason not to vaccinate.
spaghatta111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the biggest one:
Jenny McCarthy did not "cure" her sons's autism with a ketogenic diet, as this is physically impossible
lilmommy89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anti-vaxxers are the most selfish, dumb ass people I have ever encountered. Keep fighting the good fight.
randomness217 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read that as "vaccinate your dream baby!" And I was thoroughly confused.
inebriusmaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to vaccinate your kids, just the ones you want to keep.
thegendler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Preach.
Ektris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually he lives in Texas now.
crystalistwo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And her kid doesn't have autism.
C21H27Cl3N2O3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People see a scientific name and flip their shit. I've had patients freaking out over the drug name on their prescriptions, asking what kind of "chemicals" their doctors are "forcing on them."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you print that last paragraph into a poster for every pediatricians office in the country please?
xenopanties88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jenna McCarthy is a twat waffle and I HATE her for encouraging idiots to not vaccinate their children because of her made up nonsense.
I-seddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
almost wish this could fit on a t-shirt
booboteclectus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why has no one sued Jenny McCarthy for endangerment to children or for giving medical advice without a fucking PhD? When will I get to see a celebrity get their ass kicked in court for using their platforms to endanger the public for money? All the doctors in the world are pissed about this and I haven't seen ONE class Action suit? Edit: spelling from my phone
killme6669 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need to vent god dammit. My aunt is super controlling of my cousin and wont let my cousin get her daughter vaccinated. She believes that she'll get autism and she didn't even let her get the fucking vitamin K shot. Yknow. The one for clotting.
Instead she orders all of these shit supplements online from fucking Tennessee or some shit. Her and all of my cousin's are fully vaccinated and nothing happened to them. Why is she risking this baby's life???
/rant over
purplevortexxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. Mumps are COMING BACK and are spreading rapidly all over my state - Arkansas. Because people quit fucking vaccinating and then send their child to school. Its all downhill from there. I cannot comprehend the DUMBASSERY.
mdds2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree 100% on the MMR vaccine. Do medical professionals feel the same way about parents who decline a flu shot for their kids?
matt_the_mediocre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not all heroes wear capes and spandex. You, are awesome.
kaiten408 ยท 9000 points ยท Posted at 20:38:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A mother came in with her son to discuss treating his acne. Son was about 15 years old and didn't really care about the acne but mom did. After going over treatment options she asked if he just needed to "do it" to get rid of the acne. A grown woman with a child thought that by him having sex his acne would magically go away...smh
EDIT: It seems that many people think that having being a teenager = acne, thus having sex makes you a man and you would no longer have acne. Odd thought process IMO. Also, WTF is up with the whole broken arms thing?
EDIT 2: RIP my inbox. Thank you for all the responses and clarification on the broken arm/incest saga, I feel like I've officially become a redditor and learned one of it's darkest secrets
Mountfang ยท 3015 points ยท Posted at 21:07:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father still thinks this will work for me, and points it out during every conversation, even though I am not a virgin. I am also 25 years old.
kaiten408 ยท 1591 points ยท Posted at 21:11:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of all the crazy 'home remedies' I've heard, this one is by far the most confusing to me. I just don't understand the correlation between the two
TheSentientSnail ยท 1544 points ยท Posted at 21:33:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My assumption is that it's a convoluted understanding of "hormones" and how they work. Like the acne is caused by an overabundance of "male hormones" built up due to sexual frustration, which would somehow be released when they "do it".
Janghyeok ยท 766 points ยท Posted at 22:19:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't masturbation be enough then?
bestjakeisbest ยท 432 points ยท Posted at 23:43:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that is how you get hairy palms /s
Lowsow ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:55:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because of all the male hormones going onto your skin. For the same reason virgin women don't have any hair except on their scalp.
ohcomeonsomeonehadto ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:44:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From men dragging their scrotums across prepubescent girls' scalps?
Lowsow ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:46:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No silly, the hair on the scalp comes from the baby rubbing past the leftover semen from sex during birth.
jesuskater ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 04:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok enough internet for me
c00kies44 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:35:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you can't see your hands because you go blind.
Schnort ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just don't see it
ssup3rm4n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks at palms
the_bananafish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget going blind
[deleted] ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 22:58:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Iirc your body can tell the difference between real and fake sex
Inimitable ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 23:36:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The body has ways of shutting down masturbation hormones.
Propyl_People_Ether ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:51:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not according to /r/nofap!
Roboticide ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:10:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure they're an accredited source of scientific information though.
Propyl_People_Ether ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:19:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, neither is some dude saying "iirc". I have no actual opinions on the topic, I just thought it was funny to bring that up.
Inquilinus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's saying if he recalls the logic of the myth he's discussing.
scoobyduped ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:55:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and fake sex actually makes the acne worse.
420ed ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't fool your body -- it knows... and it judges.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kid might just get a prescription for broken arms.
ReverendWilly ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:59:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both of his arms were broken, get with the program
TFCarrot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:34:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
E V E R Y T H R E A D
Z0di ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:07:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the mom wanted to bang
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:20:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can confirm that it works. I masturbated a few thousand times between ages 14-25 and it cleared right up.
Matti_Matti_Matti ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:48:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Teenagers masturbate and have acne.
We can't change their age, but I f we change the masturbate to copulate then maybe the acne will also change.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah this sounds ridiculous but i can confirm, when i masturbate less i have less acne, like basically zero breakouts. and yeah, an orgasm from sex is different than orgasm from masturbating, there've been some studies on it.
ishkariot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe there's a psychosomatic reason for your acne then.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:42:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh no. try it out youll see, if you have acne and are a dude. im aware of psychosomatic stuff, this is not that i guarantee it. ive tried it a bunch of times.
ishkariot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:03:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's...not how proof works. You can't double-blind yourself. The mere fact that you were actively trying to influence your acne with a certain behaviour might be triggering the psychosomatic response, too.
What would in your opinion be the biological non-psychosomatic mechanism behind it? I'm curious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lmao
vpjoebauers ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:10:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe his arms are broken.
JasonDJ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:31:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, but then you risk going blind.
KuntaStillSingle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can be enough to stop caring you have acne.
olympia_gold ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it ever?
Artnotwars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to actually make the whore moan.
ironappleseed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your body would know it's not the real thing and just shut the whole thing down.
Itelljokesformoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is enough, and my skin is flawless.
TheObviousChild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa whoa... You need to get right with God son!
4815hurley162342 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fap like it'll cure cancer
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No because then they can just stay home and that's another issue that takes priority
Arandmoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? No. Masturbation is evil. /s
ExtraSmooth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A different set of hormones are released during sex, although testosterone is unaffected to my knowledge.
ryulaaswife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shake it once that's fine....
sigharewedoneyet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a taboo.
hellcrapdamn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, sure, his acne will be gone but he'll be left with permanent blindness!
DuckWaffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me, it's never enough
PM_ME_YR_O_FACE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've masturbated. Does it feel like enough?
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hormones aren't that dumb, gosh
PanRagon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But that's a sin!
Santa1936 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a different hormonal response to sex than masturbation from what I understand
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah gotta nut in a chick
NoThrowLikeAway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The zits know the difference.
kaiten408 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:22:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they are right about hormones affecting the acne but "releasing hormones" won't necessarily get rid of it lol
EsQuiteMexican ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to hang out with a guy who thought that people got fat after marriage because during sex men gave women testosterone, thus making them manly, and woman gave estrogen to men, making them womanly. He wouldn't take the far simpler explanation that newlyweds in our culture cook to impress, have an unprecedented income freedom and haven't ever lived alone before, letting them eat whatever they want. He also couldn't explain why hot people who fuck around a lot don't also get fatter.
bestjakeisbest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:43:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And what the woman grows a mustache after the deed is done?
TOASTEngineer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't sexual activity increase testosterone in men?
BoomerKeith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard of...unless I was back to being 15 years old and trying to convince my girlfriend to have sex with me. Then it would be an excellent point!
Treysdaddy08 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most guys lose acne about age 18. They also lose something else about that same age. Correlation =/= causation.
kaiten408 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is not true. I've seen men and women have acne from the time they were 11 all the way up to their 40s. Everyone is different and their acne responds different. You don't just turn 18 and your acne clears up.
Treysdaddy08 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:10:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't say they did. I said that most do. Most, do.
kaiten408 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:10:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't even say most do, that's too much of a generalization
Treysdaddy08 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:15:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. Most do.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:57 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great, I'll expect to see your research at the next derm conference.
AWildEnglishman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:51:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More likely he sees acne as a juvenile thing and thinks he needs to become a man to get rid of it.
ageofpwnage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, cum is good for your skin...
Figms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL ejaculation releases "hormones" from the body.
I probably could have picked up this information back in college if only my uterus had quit flying around and bumping into my other organs all the time.
rondeb22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that were true, I'd have major acne since I'm still a virgin at 18. But I've always had a clean face.
ryannayr140 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:00:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is the whole stress causes acne thing, so a mild indirect link?
kaiten408 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, stress can make any problems worse including acne, but I got the feeling that these people think that having sex is not just a treatment but a full blown cure for it. I could be wrong.
mrsunshine1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:53:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is the completely unscientific correlation that teenager = acne and teenager = virgin, therefore if you have sex you become an "adult" and the acne will therefore go away.
Wintermuteson ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:07:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Acne is associated with 'boyhood', when you have sex for the first time you're no longer a 'boy', you're 'a man', so you don't have acne anymore. Same reason people claim whiskey will make hair grow on your chest.
AlmightyCheeseLord ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:43:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's like "Teenagers have acne... adults don't... HEY!! If my son/daughter has sex, it'll make him/her an adult and (s)he won't have acne anymore!!"
EDIT: I just assumed a half the worlds gender. Oopsies.
GazzP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:33:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All that acne is just really backed up jizz seeping out of any hole it can find in the skin...
kaiten408 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like a japanese horror manga
StopHittingOnMe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just association from their experience I guess.
People that take care of themselves = get laid
People that don't groom themselves = virgin
but that's naive to actually believe in
They probably have those associations flipped where
Get laid = no acne (effects of taking care of yourself magically appear)
Virgin = will still have acne
And they probably have it explained to themselves through some convoluted theory of hormones.
emrau ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:28:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not actually that crazy. Testosterone can cause acne. For example, I'm a lady but I'm on an acne medication that, when my body releases testosterone, it doesn't become absorbed in my body. So maybe they thought if you had sex that you wouldn't have as much extra testosterone in your body? I have no idea. I don't even know if there's a relationship between sex and testosterone that way...
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Testosterone by itself did not cause acne. It causes an increased in sebum (oil) production and secretion which leads to increased bacterial growth on/in the skin which causes acne. Having sex does change your hormones but not permanently and should have no real effect on your skin.
jesuskater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well just do it frequently enough
testosterone23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? That sentence doesn't make sense.
Hormones aren't "absorbed" unless it's a gel or patch you put on your skin.
Hormones are metabolized, testosterone is metabolized into either estradiol or DHT.
You're probably on spironolactone?
sklnr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Phrasing.
sarahibrahem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of when I was a teenager, everyone assumed if you had big hips you were having sex.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Baffling...
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha, that's what we call 'child-bearing hips'
Shadrach451 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Acne is what happens when the oils in your unused semen is dissolved into your blood stream and then escapes your body through your face and back. These oils are much lighter than your blood, so the fluids separate and the oils collect in the top of your body. This is why most people do not get acne on their feet. Sometimes people will get it on their knees if they have a habit of sleeping with their legs bent and their knees elevated.
There are two way to fix the problem of acne:
You can deal with the oils as they are released through the skin. This is how most modern treatments handle the issue. You can apply creams and lotions and diffuse the oil as it reaches the surface so that it's impact to your skin is less noticeable.
The more direct, yet less Politically Correct way to handle the problem, is by removing the oils from the system entirely through wholesome intercourse. I say "wholesome" intercourse because something like masturbation or casual sex will not solve the problem; the emotions of shame and guilt during unlawful sexual acts release adrenaline into your system that makes the semen release their oils early, prior to ejaculation. In fact, this toxic release of oils is more complete and creates more potent oils that actually exacerbate the acne. Which is obvious if you walk through a high school and look at the young boys that are obviously chronic masturbators.
kaiten408 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:39:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The scary thing about reading that is that out there, somewhere, someone will read that and believe it 100%
ninja_stalker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:52:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Dr. Shadrach!
Wellnevermindthen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is the idea that semen is good for the skin? Though I generally see that being put towards ladies as an excuse to give them facials. So not sure how accurate it is.
SirBellender ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is an excuse to have your parents pay for a prostitute. Free prostitutes for all the zitty teenagers, yay.
JimmyD101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its obviously correlation between the good-looking, acne free teenagers having sex while the less attractive are not.
Mr_Gilmore_Jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Easy, he'll have sex and as a result, he will want more sex. Only to get more sex, he will have to look better and will start focusing more on personal hygiene.
95percentconfident ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if I had heard this when I was a teenager I sure woulda been happy trying it.
brzantium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Like if he had two broken arms, I could totally see his mom asking this. But acne? I dunno...
u4iak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kept on getting told by random strangers that I needed to not eat chocolate.
kaiten408 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a common one, along with eating greasy foods, red meat, dairy products, etc. While certain foods, in certain people, will cause their acne and/or rosacea to flare, NOT eating certain foods does not guarantee that you won't have acne
u4iak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kept a food journal for many years. It helped me eliminate the migraines that I would get frequently in my 20s.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Migraines are definitely affected by your diet, but it's hard to pinpoint exactly what triggers it, but obviously you documented it and it helped you figure out what it was
trojan25nz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you have sex, you must be pretty confident. If you're confident, you have a social presence. If you're social, you care about how you look. If you care about how you look, that means showering/cleaning your face all the time, maybe even your room/pillow cases. Reduces acne.
kaiten408 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this and find it to be a much more believable thought process.
annuidhir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People without acne have sex in high school, so having sex must prevent acne. (Confusing correlation with causation).
nurseryghost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Knowing" that acne is a result of hormonal changes and ignoring that it can also be caused by other factors, there is the belief that those raging hormones calm down when someone has sex and the acne is reduced.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can agree that having sex could act as a stress reliever and reduce the flares of someones acne, but this woman thought it was literally a cure.
nurseryghost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's sad, especially for the boy.
blaquelotus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was growing up this was a fairly commonly believed one. My mom explained that it was because having sex would ease the stress of all the hormones, and then your skin would start clearing up. To clarify she never even remotely suggested that it was a smart thing to do. It was something I heard someone else say and asked her about it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is better than thinking that fucking a virgin will cure you of your AIDS. That leads to degenerates in Africa raping infants.
Education. Get Education. But make sure the facts are right.
hare_in_a_suit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Are you sure he's your father?
HeywoodUCuddlemee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably just his mum in a suit.
Vigilante17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It puts the lotion on its face!
pepe_le_shoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next time I get a pimple I'm telling my wife that this works.
ethlian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bring an ex to the house and just have her say I've banged him to your dad than just have her leave, literally just that, he wants to be upfront and weird well he can get a hell of a lot of the same back
just4Subs4Reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sure he's not just telling you to get out of the house and get laid, in a sort-of-joking but really serious way?
Rand_alThor_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry to laugh at your expense, but your predicament made my day. :D
FuzzyMcTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must not be doing it right...
ActivisionBlizzard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look up obagi clenziderm. Expensive but effective. Seriously.
notamagicgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I am having a sex with a different partner every day, still not getting better!!"
lnshallah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try cutting dairy from your diet
utu_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so why hasn't he had sex with you yet?
MontazumasRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you didn't do it right?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, that made me laugh pretty hard.
icedwhitemocha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get some pussy dude.
GCSThree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you should go along with it and ask him if he knows anyone who's interested?
Thus_Spoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm imagining the following:
Dad: "Hi son. Catch the Wildcard games?"
Son: "Sure did. How about that Aaron Rodgers?"
Dad: "He's really something. Bet he cleared up his acne by 9th grade. Get your shit together, son."
Son: "Dad, I've been married for 2 yea--"
Dad: "Then you should really start fucking, now shouldn't you?"
TheRabidDeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had acne, your dad must think I am a stud. Too bad I haven't had sex yet...
dreamsinthefog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory mention of /r/asianbeauty. If you're interested in trying something that helps many people with persistent skin problems, come check it out. There's a lot about the science behind healthy skin including why it's important to know the pH of your cleanser.
PM_dickntits_plzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Dad, I need to be honest with you.
"I am not a virgin. I have had sex. No stop, don't say anything, I had more than one sex. I had all the sex. Yes really. I've been with eight girls the past two years, two of them you introduced me during that family reunion last month and sadly one of them I fucked right after we got to know each other. I've penetrated literally every hole I could put my dick in. I have unvirginized myself in every way. I have even hooked up with guys, given and taken. Yesterday I didn't come home late, I snuck back in the morning after I participated in my first orgy. So please dad,
sex doesn't cure acne. But if you know someone then I'm sure to give it a shot again."
CrypticC62 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then he beat the shit out of you with jumper cables, right?
apocalinguo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad there are others just as baffled as me. The logic train went off the rails on this one.
proweruser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could try cumming on your face or have somebody else do it. Sperm is supposed to be really good for your skin.
Kozeyekan_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh well, maybe if "Trumpcare" covers it, Hookers will be available on health insurance?
wetwater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:59 on May 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
43 and I still struggle with acne, despite being sexually active. I would kill to have clear skin, something I haven't had in 30 years regardless of what I've tried.
toxicroach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe suggest he get you some whores for your birthday.
Really a win win for you. Either he shuts up, or you get whores.
[deleted] ยท 4164 points ยท Posted at 21:04:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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browndogs1993 ยท 3434 points ยท Posted at 21:07:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd really rather not
[deleted] ยท 577 points ยท Posted at 21:32:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shudders
Neat_On_The_Rocks ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:29:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think it'd feel so good tbh
cloud3321 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:02:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are now a mod of /r/popping
sharkbag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry the skin actually just slurps them all back in and smoothens out. It's to equalise the pressure lost from the ejaculation.
SidomaDavier ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 22:40:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if all the white heads sucked back in, and came out in your nut?
TheHeartlessCookie ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:09:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what it's made from.
hungry4pie ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
By it, you mean gonorrhea right?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:34:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Either that, or some evil clown is terrorizing his dick.
jesuskater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jolly rancher all again
TheHeartlessCookie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm talking about a certain fluid.
PiranhaJAC ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:59:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TOO LATE
Sam-Gunn ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:57:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[nuclear explosion clip]
origamifred ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:49:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If r/popping was an NSFW sub...
thiney49 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:02:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No reason it can't be.
jacobs0n ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:30:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
have you seen Glyceride by Junji Ito? no? good. don't.
Kristaboo14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took the words out of my mouth
piscina_dela_muerta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/popping
melburns86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did.
It was not pleasant.
Fidyr ยท 7164 points ยท Posted at 21:36:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bukkacne
YourFavoriteBandSux ยท 386 points ยท Posted at 23:24:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/bandnames
blbd ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:23:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish you hadn't triggered Rule 34.
bbg543 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:04:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a semen facial treatment for adult acne
WJ90 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:57:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it definitely involves a facial.
iknowsheisntyou ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:57:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, gross. Thanks for that. I was about to cook dinner.
WinterCame87 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, how was dinner? Make anything with extra alfredo sauce?
iknowsheisntyou ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:31:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. No I did not. Ham, barley, and lentil soup with garlic bread.
But, I was planning fettuccine alfredo for later this week. So much for that.
I may have to throw out all of my milk and cream in the meantime.
akaugusto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Acne soup
iknowsheisntyou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:31:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you people hate me?
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't have you, they love that they can get under your skin. They are an acne to your thoughts.
TheManInsideMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you're going to masturbate right?
iknowsheisntyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sigh
Maybe.
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
FreezeBob ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:02:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaamd you just ruined that fetish for me. Thanks.
exatron ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:43:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bukkake or acne?
AngusMan13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both
FreezeBob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:53:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
ritzhi_ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:54:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://s45.photobucket.com/user/silfactor4/media/acne.jpg.html
thatswhatshesaidxx ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:32:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That shit is staying so blue, someone in Bompton gonna shoot it.
Depot_Shredder ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wiiplay123 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:09:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MrBojangoUnchained ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:00:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Er Ere.
Gravesh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's just a manga about a man with a face full of pimples who pins a small girl down and proceeds to squeeze his face so the pus slowly oozes down onto her face. For some reason the pus has a consistency of semen, it seems.
Japan and manga is fucking weird.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah. People are weird. Japan just has the market cornered on manga.
WalkToTheGallows ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:38:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/ClicksonLinks
ClicksOnLinks ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 00:44:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a japanese comic of a guy covered in super acne squeezing ramen out of his face on to a terrified school girl.
Mry0guy ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:05:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you provide a valuable service sir all redditors salute you
WalkToTheGallows ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, thank you!
dafool7913 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not ramen....
ClicksOnLinks ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:21:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, that was a joke.
dafool7913 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was playing along :(
ClicksOnLinks ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:15:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I didnt know that was a joke
jesuskater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or was it....
mttdesignz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
damn you're useful.
ClicksOnLinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh good!
adamissarcastic ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:02:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you do this
pukesonyourshoes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez girl, at least keep your mouth shut.
kaiten408 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:06:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is terrifying
you_got_fragged ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what
the
fuck
ZimbabweBestCountry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:16:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
IUpvoteUsernames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/popping is leaking
Chaosfreak610 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:26:35 on January 21, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thedarkone47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That Doujin is so fucking gross. On the other hand this is the exact page I though it would be.
Aroniense21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even have to open it to know what the fuck it was.
dubbification ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/WTF
ludsmile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just.... wow.
ThatDudeShadowK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf
XP_Bar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the actual
InsaneUpboat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I threwup alittle
ReynardVulpini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fuck where is that from????
waterlilyrm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:24:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D:
HereSirTakeMyUpvote ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:14:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take my upvote and leave you filthy animal!
alexvalensi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:31:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking eww, but also genius. Bravo.
MyPersonalEversong ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:13:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone needs to give this person gold
MagicallyVermicious ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be the change you want to see in the world
sig_mason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-Adolf Hitler
East_coast_lost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Salute
BadTripz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha
JWBails ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm imagining bukake but with the yellow pus from slots.
So thanks for that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never actually given gold and prob never will, but if I were to give gold, I would give it to you for this.
amiintoodeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never upvoted something out of disgust. Until now.
Krov_Koshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh christ.
zodar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to wash my mouse after upvoting that
zevalar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone give gold
Brotherauron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't think about that while browsing /r/popping
angry_old_geezer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol'd at this one.
autumngirl11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just died.
worldofsmut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Putting the pus in pussy...
Naoyatodo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck you for making me read this.
MegaQuake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maaan. I wish I had gold to give you! All the gold.
sack_o_dildos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sir, deserve more upvotes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She cums on her own face!
Swag_Turtal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gild this man.
Suuupa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh
Trevorisabox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gags
allinyabutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for that one.
Binthek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, come on!
akaugusto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sir are the Shakespeare of our generation
havereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best one word 3000+ karma post I've ever seen
fishbiscuit13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm simultaneously glad and regretting that I've already eaten. Dear lord.
Innerouterself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am so glad this is your most upvoted comment in your history. Hilarious
-14k- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
holy damn, the points! the gold!
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thatsmyfetish.jpg
ukiyoe ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:51:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uzumaki flashbacks.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:19:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
Sam-Gunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Japan, apparently.
cptstupendous ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:37:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not Uzumaki, although it's from the same manga artist.
ukiyoe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:55:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Been too long, thought it might be in the same book. Thanks!
quistissquall ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
barf
Dood567 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wot tha mudderfuck did I just reed
Rogue177 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
risky click of the day
AgressiveToyota ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, yeah I'm not clicking that.
CheekyJester ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:48:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tini_531 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:05:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the whole thing. I don't even know why.
ARandomDaddy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:33:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/popping would definitely orgasm at the thought of this idea.
Sulfate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hnnnngh
SubatomicCake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly what that is and even though it is sure to be satisfying, there is no way through all seven layers of hell and back I am clicking it.
I_HAVE_THAT_FETISH ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:29:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually it's the other way around for me.
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that were true I would never had had a pimple in my life
crooked_robot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:16:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like This?
ridgegirl29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lot of white stuff
Typical_Adc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think there is a subreddit that people would enjoy this idea in.
Im_Here_To_Fuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FREEDOOOOOOOOOOOOM
stanfan114 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://a.disquscdn.com/get?url=http%3A%2F%2F41.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_ltbecz4z5j1r4xqamo1_1280.png&key=Se0ABvvV7OZz45t2drKsXw
skavinger5882 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/popping
There's a sub for the reverse of that
BlueberryPhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one way to discourage teen pregnancy.
ten_of_ten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did I have to be drinking water when reading this?
gujayeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gagging
WhiteShadow189 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sooo satisfying. Would horrify the girl though I imagine.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh my fucking god satan
chunky1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the fetishised version of /r/popping. Not just fascinated by popping, but getting off sexually on it.
pepe_le_shoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is worse, did this kid's mom think spots were filled with jizz?
GunsGermsAndSteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate you so much
BarkingLeopard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be the best orgasm ever for the /r/Popping crowd.
10minutes_late ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps they drain, which is where the nut comes from
allADD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i've definitely seen this on 4chan
Krov_Koshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just brought a really unpleasant Junji Ito manga to mind.
TheDukeOfHurl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would feel so amazing!
gracefulwing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/popping would love that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In that case, r/popping would be a very different sort of sub.
Sofatalofa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am waiting at bank to get papers motorized. Just let out the most uncomfortable noise from my body because of you.
MyUserNameTaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think /r/popping just cried out an was suddenly silenced
riverwestein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'd take /r/popping to a whole new level.
Patiod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If so, please video and send to r/popping
MisterGayUnicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/popping
OxTasting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if you you had a rare disease that everytime you jerked off you came out of all your pimples instead of the regular way when it came to orgasm time.
Thats terrifying and also sounds like a really shitty x-files episode.
Some_Awesome_dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a short film in a Florida film festival, where the boy had huge, lemon sized pimples over his body, and the girl had a compulsive obscesion with popping bubble wrap. They hooked up, and at the end it looked like a food fight with strawberry cheese cake. (probably what they used for props)
keeperofcats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know someone has a fetish for that image.
Duff_McLaunchpad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would be the most satisfaction one could feel.
is_this_a_test ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How long would my pores be clean for after my bag-head jerk?
iambabyhands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let it rain grease!
underwaterpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bliss.
mirror2screen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my godd... the real pimple porn. There could be a following for that.
PunnyBanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure there's a market for that porn.
PostOfficeBuddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man where's that pic of that Junji Ito manga with the pimple dude?
Edit - Found it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if thats how it worked, there would be a lot of videos of guys jacking off on r/popping
FromFluffToBuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you do get some free moisturizer...
chairitable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/popping would become a NSFW sub...
Indosay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone wanna post that fucked up manga?
EDIT:
http://m.imgur.com/gallery/Hn5Sb
Here, read at your own risk. Just keep scrolling, you'll know when you get to it.
Koolaidguy541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BOOM! SPLAT!
Ryaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds so good. I've never had acne, but I've had a couple pimples and if I could masturbate and have it pop all of them I would literally orgasm a second time from that.
Sevinex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You monster. My Chipotle burrito is now going unfinished and into the fridge for the rest of tonight.
lebohemienne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Epic.
AtomicWalrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
KRAKATOA!!!
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then both of our faces would have been a real mess
PM_ME_YR_O_FACE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 100% sure somebody has this fetish
handjivewilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I could said I was treating myself holistically instead of being caller a pervert. Dammit.
reverendbeast ยท 506 points ยท Posted at 22:28:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a nasty belief in some sub-Sahara communities that you can cure HIV/AIDS by having sex with a virgin :(
diggexpat ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 01:07:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hasa Diga Ebowai
mfg3 ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 02:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neat! Does that mean no worries for the rest of our days?
Paxtian ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:03:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of...
Sgxdarklighter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have maggots in my scrotum.
joshimo3000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of...
jesuskater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Una forma de seeeeeeeer
gtrogers ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bring me Solo and the Wookiee
JerkfaceBob ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:08:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. You beat me to it. Have an upvote.
PM_ME_YOUR_SANDERS ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 22:59:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ
sirophiuchus ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 00:45:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really absurdly fucked up, because it leads not just to further infections but also rape (for obvious reasons) and child abuse (... ... more likely to be a virgin).
:(
ludsmile ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
TheTartanDervish ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:14:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Djibouti and Kenya have been doing a pretty good job of sex ed since that disgusting myth became public. Not often you see rural Muslim communities with big billboards about using condoms.
Unfortunately we still saw it, we also did humanitarian work (medical exercises) and I had to very carefully explain to a "bought bride" (all of 14yrs old) that her 52yo husband was not avoiding her because he "felt sick" (we knew from seeing him around the city that he was gay, pedo, prolific, and wore no protection in a country where child prostitutes run about 60% infection rates) so that she needed visit the city doctor asap.
Fortunately one of the village's women elders was mothering this child-bride (since she spoke a different dialect of Arabic, no Somali and no French and she was auctioned off at 13-14 ffs). Maman was very worldly, so she was a big help in giving this girl the pieces of the puzzle in small doses. I found out via the grapevine that the local imam was about as open as you could hope for around there, Maman wrangled a promise from him to make sure the girl was kept safe with all this going on. "Bought brides" turn up dead fairly often.
That's not something you can sort out in a day, especially with cultural barriers that big... I'd never even met a "bought bride" before then, let alone knowing how to tell a Muslim teenager that her husband's gay, pedo, cheating, and likely moving past HIV into fullblown AIDS... like where do you even start with that? I hope I did the right thing by organizing Maman and the Imam to help her out... I often wonder if she's alright.
I'm brushing up on my Arabic so I can go back to some of the places I worked and see how everyone is doing.
qaisjp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ughhhh
sirophiuchus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah
Durzo_Blint ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 00:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the easiest way to make sure she's a virgin is to rape a girl as young as possible.
Sorry about that. Here ya go /r/Eyebleach
phil8248 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:41:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why they have cases of HIV positive men gang raping baby girls. Also, this was believed in England in the 1800's except it was syphilis not HIV.
jmat83 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:32:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know that this isn't the point, because horrific child sex abuse... but... even if it were true that you could cure HIV by having sex with a virgin, how would gang rape help? Only the first guy would be cured, because once he entered her, she wouldn't be a virgin, and the HIV-curing virgin sex magic would be all used up.
phil8248 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:37:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not exactly sure what their thinking might be. What you say makes sense but superstition could make for warped reasoning. In 2014 I went to work in an Ebola clinic in Monrovia Liberia. We required 24 hour armed guards because there were some locals who thought we were deliberately infecting patients to test vaccines, or we were stealing blood and organs or we were practicing witchcraft. Clearly lots of illogical, superstitious or suspicious thinking. There were also politically motivated groups that hate any white person. That I can actually grasp since whites have traditionally exploited much more than helped Africans. The guards were needed too. Both our secure housing complex and our secure treatment facility were assaulted by small armed groups.
TheTartanDervish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:16:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think "History Cold Case" on BBC figured out that one of their skeletons had been an impoverished girl infected with syphilis about age 6 or 8 :'(
phil8248 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:31:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Michael Crichton discusses it in his book The Great Train Robbery. That's where I learned it. I think if we knew of all the sadness and brutal suffering in the world it would destroy us. Just hearing snippets can make you physically ill. There was a guy arrested in the Philippines who was from Thailand. He specialized in child porn that featured really young girls, 4, 5 years old. He'd video tape them being repeatedly raped while they were forced to dig their own graves. He sold this on the dark web all over the earth. I cannot even wrap my brain around how sick that is. And that's just a tiny glimpse. There are literally millions of stories like that. I'm a disciple of Tom Waits. We're just monkeys with guns and money.
TheTartanDervish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm more of a "human is a popular look on this planet, but sometimes yoy get the human look without any human inside" sort of person. Don't look up the rape of Nanking or some of the illustrations people made of the British putting down the various Scottish rebellions, or the Inquisition for that matter.
phil8248 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These examples involve a nationalistic rationalization. Each of the offending groups found a way to dehumanize their victims. Individual acts of violence do fit your idea of looking human without being human inside. Socialization is part of it too though. A child raised in a way to make him violent and amoral may have been capable of being human but lost the chance.
TheTartanDervish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my view, it's possible to overcome a bad start, but plenty of people have a great start and become terrorists anyway. /my old line of work was that general area
phil8248 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in a prison for 9 years and saw plenty of people who you would think had a great start in life end up doing some very evil things. There were also some who you realized didn't get much of a chance at all.
vitaminba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, He doesn't help them.
Siphon1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's Jason's porn
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some believe in that too...
simulacrum81 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:36:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The even nastier follow-up is that many people in these communities reason that the only way you can be sure its a virgin is to make sure it's an infant. :(
darthevil99 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, since the Book Of Mormon came out on Broadway, they resorted to screwing frogs.
Steak_R_Me ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:02:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, Elder Cunningham!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Siphon1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:53:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's what the monkey in the app was doing when he orally raped that frog to death.
NDaveT ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:47:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was a common belief about syphilis in European countries into the 19th Century.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that where the don't drink alcohol while on tablets/antibiotics came from?
Men were on the pills to treat it then going out getting drunk and just forgetting then having sex.
I know some pills are a bad mix with alcohol but hardly any.
elbaivnon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:13:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...take this fucking asshole Mutumba here.
creepysnowflake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially nasty, since most girls are married by their early teens, so if you want a virgin you have to go young or go home. ๐ถ
caterham09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup and this is why aids is so rampant in Africa
BriaCass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
damn this just depressed me.
oldcreaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't having sex with a virgin a bit like "where was the man when jumped off the bridge?". If you're having sex they are not a virgin.
purplegrog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So sad...Everyone knows if you want to cure AIDS you must lay with a frog.
Dapplegonger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There aren't many virgins left, so some people are turning to babies!
Jethr0Paladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just humans or do goats count too?
ahchava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's how it spreads....ugh.
Whatreallyhappens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so fucked up
cornicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In South Africa specifically it's a white virgin. In order to keep safe as a kid I had to learn all of the terrible things that happens to little white girls and I'm very very glad we left.
drunkpharmacystudent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like that rumor was made by someone with AIDS
Phijkchu_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buuuuuut, when there are no virgins left, some of them are turning to babies. Take that tucking asshole Motumba, for example...
shleppenwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was considered a remedy for venereal diseases in Victorian England.
pinkkittenfur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking Mtumbo.
Beckella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also that men build up a "heat" if they only have sex with condoms or abstain entirely. The "heat" is bad for your health and the only way you can release it is through unprotected sex. Maybe with virgins... I don't remember. But there is a thing about heat. There are a lot of education campaigns though that are working to balance the public health message with respecting cultural beliefs. Tough to balance that I think though...
Peidae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get how this belief spreads. Like okay, you as a generation might come up with it and try it but future generations would absolutely know it doesn't work. How does the idea keep spreading?
Scary-Brandon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good luck finding a virgin to agree to that
ricardjorg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They actually don't wait for them to agree.. :(
Scary-Brandon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a lovely community. Cares enough to want to cure people, doesn't care enough to not rape people.
How have they not realised that instead of curing the person it just infects the virgin
ricardjorg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They might not know how it works.. And the virgin's parents probably aren't consulted on it either..
Scary-Brandon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
actually come to think about it if that's the way their minds think they probably scold the virgin saying they weren't a virgin and that getting infected is their punishment
mermaidtheory011 ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 22:03:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was around 22, my friend asked me how much sex I was having cause my boobs were so big. She thought that having sex gave you bigger boobs. We both went to an all-girls school that was pretty thorough with sex ed cause when there's 1000 girls, I guess you have to...but she legitimately believed that, and I had to tell her it was not true and she thought I was lying about all my sexcapades.
kaiten408 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:23:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, that reminds me of 8th grade and all the girls in my class thought that if you eat chicken it will make your boobs grow
Technetium_Hat ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:22:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you eat enough chicken it works...ย because if you get fat your boobs get bigger.
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
--cheese-- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can only assume that idea originated from some misunderstanding or joke about chicken breasts? Do you know what turkey or duck would do to a girl's chest?
LBTTCSDPTBLTB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ime it resulted from people learning about the "hormones" that large scale farms have in their chicken feed.
Newt_is_my_Waifu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also went to an all women's college that was thorough with sex-ed. Many girls were quite upset when a panelist at one event said that if you're truly ready then your first time won't hurt. I was a virgin at the time, but I found out later that some of us just have really really stubborn hymens.
timesuck897 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guys like boobs, and having sex with women who have boobs. Losing your virginity makes you a woman, and having boobs are part of becoming a woman. Therefore, the more sex you have, the more of a woman you are and the bigger your boobs get. What's so hard to understand? /s
towhead22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does /s mean? I've seen it before but never knew
False798 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just a quick note to everyone reading that the poster is being sarcastic
towhead22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:14:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ok ty
Scheur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/s means sarcasm.
So every time someone writes /s it's meant to sound sarcastic.
westminsterabby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if the sex leads to pregnancy and the pregnancy leads to childbirth and childbirth leads to breastfeeding, then yes, sex can make your boobs bigger. Maybe your friend just thought you were leaving all your infants at home.
cloud3321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well one possible side effects would be having bigger breasts temporarily..
VelociJupiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe messaging them often will causing more blood flow, and during puberty more blood flow means more nutrients which make them grow bigger?
I don't know. I am just making random conjecture here.
jesuskater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
messaging constantly makes stuff get real annoyed sometimes, thus the boobs gets inflamed with anger
Rocky87109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure if you are pregnant your boobs will probably get bigger. Maybe that is what she was thinking.
mermaidtheory011 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She told me she'd been having sex a bunch and her boobs just aren't getting bigger and how long was I having sex cause maybe in a few years hers would be bigger? It's been a few years, no kids and I think her boobs are likely the same.
I'm pretty sure this is a lie a guy told her, she was kind of gullible when guys were involved.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. In high school my best friend had a Japanese exchange student living with her for a full year. I'm sure you've seen how Japanese folks have some strange beauty superstitions. This girl was obsessed with getting larger breasts and I just happened to be the one with the biggest bust of the people she hung around with so she was always asking me if her latest crazy busy enlarging idea was the key. Was pretty funny the day she hooked on soy milk (and yes I know there's some things about soy mimicking estrogen and what not but still) and then discovered I'd been lactose intolerant since birth.
Apparently they sell candy bars and things in Japan that purport to increase your bust size. I suppose if you gain enough weight that could sort of work...
Thank gosh no one has ever assumed I just got a lot of sex in my formidable years. Lol.
NotClever ยท 233 points ยท Posted at 20:48:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, did her husband have any acne? Q.E.D.
kaiten408 ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 20:52:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure, he was not there and I didn't ask. I didn't even ask where she heard it from because I was in such disbelief at the time.
slaaitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know where this one comes from, but among those guilty of propogating this insane rumor, Robert A Heinlein is prominent.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taking medical advice from a science fiction author...smh
slaaitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not so much advice as several instances where it's mentioned in passing that a young man's acne cleared up practically overnight after he got laid.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The things people will believe...
Rajani_Isa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because one is a fiction author, doesn't mean they don't know stuff.
Especially science fiction, although admittedly those tend towards "hard" sciences.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying they don't know stuff, obviously they need to know many things work in their most basic forms to at least be able to write a story about it. But they are not trained medical personnel and are not up to date on the most recent information available, so people taking medical advice from them is ridiculous IMO.
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
J.I.ZZ.
FTFY
UnApprovedActivities ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plot twist husband did not have acne; husband was not the father.
pole_fan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quo Ero demonstrantum?
TheHiguty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:25:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quod erat demonstrandum. Often found at the end of proofs in maths and arguments in philosophy.
pole_fan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuck auto correct. but yeah didnt know it was used in philosophy too only knew it from math
Plbn_01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
quod erat demonstrandum*
pole_fan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:10:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quo Ero demonstrantum?
ronerychiver ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:34:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The kid was probably like, "...well, if there's even a chance it would help, I think we should at least try it, wouldn't you say, Doc?"
kaleb42 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:37:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a high school sweetheart told her that
r_kay ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 23:38:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next week the son came back with no acne and two broken arms...
theathenian11 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
every thread!
Deray22 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:29:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This feels like a missed opportunity to help a teen get laid
kaiten408 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:37:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His acne was not that bad, I'm sure he won't have a problem once he decides that he wants to but I'm not going to add to his mother's false beliefs and have her go home and try to force her son to have sex with someone to "cure" his acne. Plus the crazy woman would be back when it didn't work which I DEFINITELY do not want to deal with
Deray22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was just a joke :)
kaiten408 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:39:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know but unfortunately you can't joke around with patients or else it'll bite you in the ass
linkkjm ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He went home and broke his arms. His acme was then cured
G0PACKGO ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:32:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Broken arms
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/nmmjr/iama_man_who_had_a_sexual_relationship_with_his/c3a9uqg/
DemonDuckOfDoom1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If this were true, it'd explain my face.
kaiten408 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:25:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. But a good benzoyl peroxide face wash and some tretinoin should help you with your acne
[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 22:42:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she also continuously ask if his arms were broken?
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the reference, but I still feel you butchered the joke.
jesuskater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this guy managed to fuck up the most easy joke around here
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I put it there because I found it quite odd that she really wanted him to get laid. You can infer the rest. Otherwise, she is just a fuckin moron for believing sex would get rid of acne.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:04:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the joke. I was just saying it was badly crafted.
Oathkeeper91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't get the reference... :( ELI5?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:03:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/nmmjr/iama_man_who_had_a_sexual_relationship_with_his/c3a9uqg/
theathenian11 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:28:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should never tell that story to a five year old
YoiteShinigami ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are people making/understanding a reference to a topic from 5 years ago? Did it explode into a meme or something?
_twinsizemattress__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:14:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's just referenced constantly. A bit of disturbing "reddit history" I suppose.
YoiteShinigami ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
Sam-Gunn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:56:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sure, take him to the best hooker you can buy, pay for a full two hours, and then wait in the car."
You'll be the best doctor ever!
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, Best Press-Ganey scores in the area!
Orlitoq ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:00:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[Redacted]
kaiten408 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:08:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have sexual intercourse QHS. Repeat PRN for flares.
ms_bonezy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:41:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah,mi get it. Only teens get acne and by losing his virginity he would "become a man" so the acne would just disappear. Makes perfect sense!
/s just in case
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:16:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's even more fucked up because the acne would prevent him from getting laid, creating a feedback loop.
At least his parent was sex-positive?
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose that could be a plus, but god knows what other things she tells him that are completely untrue
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good point. (Factual) sex education should be mandatory.
5quanchy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sons arms weren't broken by any chance?
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. I'm assuming this is referring to something but I don't get it...
poop_chute_riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://np.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/nmmjr/iama_man_who_had_a_sexual_relationship_with_his/
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geez mom, how the hell am I supposed to get laid with 2 broken arms
lilvon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couple years back their was an AMA of a kid who had an incestuous relationship with is mother. It came about from his becoming "backed up" as he had broken both of his arms. Really interesting AMA but its become a reddit meme now whenever it can be slightly applied.
gronke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:39:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh you sweet summer child...
the_honest_liar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure you want to know?
SirGrantly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:59:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In case no one has answered you yet, the broken arms thing is an old Reddit story.
Link
Sidorakh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here you go. Read at your own peril - NSFW, obviously.
jondrethegiant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if anyone has answered your question about the broken arms. It's a classic reddit post about a guy who claimed he was in an accident and had both arms in a cast. This meant he was depressed and couldn't masturbate. So his mom jerked him off out of love/pity. It's been a ongoing joke for years since.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
unfortunately TIL
lifelongfreshman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the reference.
Riseagainstyou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay since no one has explained the broken arms thing as far as I can tell I'll help out. It's a meta reference that gets crammed into every fucking thread even remotely about sex.
Long story short, dude came in and did an AMA, one of the bigger ones in Reddit history - especially because it was verified. His unique thing that made him worth an AMA? He had been fucking his mom for years. His dad was aware. As for the broken arms, his explanation for why it started was one summer he broke both arms, and his mom was kind (to put it nicely) enough to offer to jerk him off. Handjobs turned to blowjobs turned to healed arms and fucking. Reddit did not think this reason was as logical as this young man did, and a meme was born.
So uh...Now you know.
Source if you want to dive down the rabbit hole: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/nmmjr/iama_man_who_had_a_sexual_relationship_with_his/
kaiten408 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I'm an official redditor now lol
SailorSmaug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In regards to the broken arms thing - prepare yourself
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/nmmjr/iama_man_who_had_a_sexual_relationship_with_his/
Eshido ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The whole broken arms thing is a reference to a very infamous incest story that appeared on Reddit, which included a boy with broken arms and casts. I think you can see where it led...
c3534l ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, it's actually quite common and even you probably do it about stuff you don't know. It's basically just inferring causation from correlation without any plausible mechanism for causation. When I was much younger I asked my doctor if in order to get my heart rate up at the gym if I couldn't just drink some coffee.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get what you are saying and I'm sure I've done it numerous times in my life, but I guess I'm just to analytical. The idea that when you have sex you become a "man" and just like that you are no longer prone to developing acne makes no sense in terms of science/physiology, at least to me.
c3534l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me wrong, that person must have been eating some paint chips as a kid or grew up Mormon or something. But the IT staff at your hospital probably also thinks you're a moron.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be happy to explain but it is rather gross......
Kid had two broken arms and got super horny so his mom jacked him off. Some moms are really there for their kids.
ladyshanksalot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shhh let him have this peace.
bubblegumlizzy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh...your confusion about broken arms sealed my decision to upvote your post xD
must_pet_kitteh_asap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'll be sorry you asked about the broken hands. Just turn back now.
Cornthulhu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has become a really stale meme. The short version is that a Redditor told a story about how he broke his arms and his mother jacked him off because he was unable to and sexually frustrated. Now every time a mother or young male child and something sexual gets brought up in a comment people race to respond with "broken arms hur dur."
Trey5169 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In terms of "broken arms..." I can't find the original link, but this is a nice and simple outline.
NSFW/NSFL! YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.
crazycrik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TURN BACK
TURN BACK NOW
RUN
DON'T LOOK BACK
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too late, I found out
GrandmaPoopCorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Basically there was an AMA about a guy who had a sexual relationship with his mother when he was younger. It happened when he had broken his arms and became frustrated because he couldn't masturbate. So his mom gave him a hand job and then it went off from there. So now and then you'll see someone say "broken arms" which is usually responded with "every fucking thread" or something like that." -some redditor
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
tribal_thinking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Indeed. Everyone knows that he would have to steal livestock from his neighbor's fields before the acne magically disappears. He has to prove himself a warrior to be a man, not just hump some girl's leg for a few seconds!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:22:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your one of us now... It only gets worse
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can only imagine
pupunoob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, your first edit is fucking hilarious.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, I was not a smart man
WHODATSAIDD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is an amazingly popular belief in southern Louisiana.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really, any insight as to why?
Ferl74 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:59:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in southern Louisiana and this is not a popular belief. Maybe in his family it's a belief.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she break his arms after.
kaiten408 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You and another person commented about arms breaking, I don't get it though
Ferl74 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say something about this too, it's about a mom that jerked her son off because he had two broken arms and was in a bad mood and mom thought it would help him "relax". There's a reddit post about it around here somewhere. But I like to pretend the guy was trolling and everyone was fooled by his post.
kaiten408 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:07:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What. The. Fuck.
Summort ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ain't reddit a magical place?
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it definitely has its moments
Ferl74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god I was going to link you to the post, but as I was going though it, it turns out it was more than masturbation... And it is 100% real as the guy and his mom talked to a doctor about it and reddit mods were able to verify it with said doctor. I won't subject you to what I just read. But just know it truly is WTF??
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh trust me, i found out the ugly story
mpfdetroit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this is a legit reddit story. Mom bangs son, neither feel too weird about it, documented, studied, verified... the whole nine yards.
JollyPandaBerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
should have told her yes, would have made that kid very happy
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and when it didn't work she would come back raising hell, no thanks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, poor kid was pretty embarrassed when she asked that question. Ironically many times when kids come in with their parents for acne it's the parents that are more concerned with it and always push for more treatment options
Emptamar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel weird asking this, but I'm a girl and orgasms typically clear up my light acne? I assumed it was due to stress relief.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stress affects everything in our body, so any form of stress relief usually helps with problems that you may have. Women have pretty strong hormonally induced acne which usually fluctuates around their period, so I'm not surprised that it helps to reduce your acne flares.
lightyear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My doctor actually told me this when I was around the same age. My mum had taken me for some other reason, and she asked incidentally what we could do about my acne. The doctor responded, "Get a girlfriend." I didn't get it at the time but my mum was highly amused.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps he was implying that by getting a girlfriend you would make more attempts at cleaning your face and trying to treat the acne? Honestly for most people, OTC products work great but require consistency and many adolescent boys are not consistent with the treatment
lightyear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I remember it, he sort of muttered it to my mother rather than directly to me. It seemed pretty clear he was trying to be subtle about it. He was pretty old school. Years later when I went to him because I thought I was depressed, he told me "Depression doesn't just come down from the heavens, something must be making you depressed." For a doctor to have such a wrong understanding of such a common complaint was baffling to me.
DaughterEarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also really frustrating when parents force their kids through things that aren't very necessary. I'm hoping my in-laws don't try to make me act that same way when I have a kid with their son. This is going to be fun...
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. So many times parents drag their kids in to have their acne treated when the kids themselves could care less. It's especially bad when the parents start demanding accutane and trying to force the child to request it.
DaughterEarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even understand why they care so much. It's almost like a certain image is more important than the kid's mental state.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think some of the parents are living vicariously through their children. Others are just extremely vain and don't want their children to be "that kid with the bad acne"
btruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, my wife had a lifelong acne problem that went away after she had our son. I would not recommend this as a treatment though.
AXISMGT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, he does need to.
Any chance we can break both his arms for convenience?
joomper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't hurt
TripFire357 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do know that when I have a lot of sex, my skin gets quite smooth and the small amount of spots on my back start to disappear.
LargeMargeSentMeHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"How'd ya like a room at the Ritz? Wrapped in velvet, covered in glitz A little nookie gonna clean up those zits And you'll get it"
mnbvcxzsdfghjkl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way I can even remotely try to justify this is that maybe when the mother started having sex, she also started using birth control pills, which often clear up your skin, but she thought it was just due to the sex?
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good thought, birth control helps control acne in lots of women
LeanSippaDopeDilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You ejaculate all your testosterone when you cum, don't you know that? Of course that would only help, not eliminate it.
kaiten408 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming you're joking, but I don't see /k
LeanSippaDopeDilla ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping it would be obvious enough
kaiten408 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:16:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
one can never be to cautious on reddit
Gasonfires ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Women's acne often clears up when they become pregnant. She had it partly right. Kind of.
BubbaAndrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean, "The Sex"?
MissingLavender ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's, folks, how Jimmy's hands were broken.
jaw-breaker ยท 975 points ยท Posted at 22:38:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where the penis goes in the female reproductive system during sex.
I had to explain this to a first-year female medical student. So someone with presumably 4 years of a pre-med/biology education.
To her credit, she understood that the vagina was involved somehow. She just also thought the penis kept going through the cervix and uterus to the uterine tubes....and maybe further?
AllPurposeNerd ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 00:00:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a very, very old GIF of an anime girl getting banged from behind and on each thrust, the head emerges first from her right nostril, then her left nostril, then her mouth. I'm sifting through old hard drives and I can't find it. Google has no idea what I'm talking about.
[deleted] ยท 371 points ยท Posted at 00:52:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AllPurposeNerd ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 01:11:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are a god among men.
Or women. Whatever, I don't know your life.
Zuequa6d ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 01:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh.
Oh dear.
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:05:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if it makes you feel better, all of that extra mucus and spit probably helped ease that dick through like all seven sphincters.
daitoshi ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:44:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am impressed with your sphincter counting ability
theoriginalj ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:55:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm concerned that a small corner of the internet might now think that the vagina is connected to the nose and there are sphincters to go through. The female reproductive organs are in no way connected to the GI tract or the airways, at all. No sphincters
Problem119V-0800 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:21:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Presumably the couple in the gif are doing anal.
Tzipity ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fuck. That's both hilarious and nauseating. Also give that the colon alone is 5-6 feet long... how the hell big is this guys cock?
daitoshi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or her body is hollow, like a blow-up doll
wongerthanur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now everything seems feasible.
bedroom_fascist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is a God among sphincters.
roenick99 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:07:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hentai Gif Dick Nose
I might create a new user with that.
hentai_Gif_dick_nose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:02:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too late I already got it!
roenick99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit!!
hentai_Gif_dick_nose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:30 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, but you'll have to take this lose. Unless you somehow beat me.
Freshlaid_Dragon_egg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:42:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think we've discovered a relative of dickbutt.
z3r0f14m3 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:24:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best part is you used bing...
Vitztlampaehecatl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wtf lol?
_PM_ME_GFUR_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:55:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me feel better about my porn.
furrygreenpillow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen some weird stiffs before, but damn.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:53:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahahaha. That brings me back several years.
Oh internet. You're still so vile.
theloehndorf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Disturbing af
MadAeric ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:42:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap! I can't stop laughing.
TheFatality1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
New meaning to the phrase "ass to mouth"
punnyusername12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:53:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one that thinks that would probably feel amazing if it was possible?
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:54:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna answer for everyone and say yes, you're the only person who thinks this.
punnyusername12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
icer816 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now hold on, we need to know if /u/punnyusername12 is the guy or the girl in the gif first.
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Novel way to deal with sinus and allergy problems for sure. Stuffy nose? Not anymore!
punnyusername12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:53:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I guess that's a benefit for her until it's running something else...
halftrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u/deenmeister for lulz
ChunRyong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'm done with Reddit for today.
theryman ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 00:08:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh to be a fly on your search history.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. Can you imagine what that fly was put through?
Sharpastic ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:39:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im at dinner and this caused me to spurt water out of my nose. Guess thats better than sneezing out half a dick though.
bedroom_fascist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personal choice?
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:07:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly which GIF you're talking about.
ajwadsabano ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Send it here if you find it!
noggin-scratcher ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:04:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy found it
diothar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's gone. Can you point me in the right direction? Not even going to try to come up with a b.s. "For a friend excuse." I'm freaking curious as shit about it.
noggin-scratcher ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:59:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe this was it
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow it surpassed my expectations
Youthro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tried every keyword I could think of on Google, and I can't find it either. It does exist though!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah no thanks....
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
AllPurposeNerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Incidentally, the search uncovered my old demo CD and cover art, an app I wrote for running a D&D game, my weightlifting logs, college writing homework, and my MUGEN characters.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, how desperately one searches for one's old, weird porn gifs, i feel you!
On the other hand, you sound like a pretty talented kind of guy (or girl). Nice and keep up the good work!
Edit: What are MUGEN characters?
AllPurposeNerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MUGEN was a sort-of open source game engine like ten years ago, where you dropped in your own art assets and did a little light programming and you could make your own fighting game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.U.G.E.N
My favorite character I made was Zelda 2 Link. I set it up so that there was a small chance that his basic stab attack would drop a magic jar that he could pick up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice! Thanks
Ben_zyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm getting spammed with that one a lot at the moment as part of a 'dating' site, a deeply unconvincing porn decorated one at that, they seem to want my credit card details to 'verify' my age as well!
Jellybeanellie ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 23:58:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a med student friend who thought babies (i.e. the foetus) grew in the bladder. She was already in her third year of medicine.
iamagiraff3 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 01:03:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nursing student here. I'm suddenly not very worried about school anymore.
jaw-breaker ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is frustrating because I can almost 100% guarantee that at some point in those three years, her coursework included a 1 hour lecture on implantation and uterine anatomy.
You can lead them to water, but you can't make them drink.
frogandbanjo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:48:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But apparently you can still give them passing grades either way!
Noodles14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can, however, use the process of elimination to navigate to the most likely correct answer of four choices on a multiple choice question.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that might hurt babby.
PseudoY ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 00:07:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of these people have lived very sheltered lives.
To be fair I was surprised at a few things too. Our arms and shoulder blades are only connected by bone joints to our collarbone? Really?
Our balls are connected to our penis through an insanely convoluted detour through the pelvis? What the hell?
It kind of makes it fun to explain some things to patients, because not everything seems logical and you get why they wouldn't know.
greyghostvol1 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:13:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost as if we're a product of a messy, messy and not at all logical process called evolution through natural selection. Nature has no plans, just results.
Squigglystuff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, in all my time as a radiographer, I never once thought about the fact that our arms are only connected skeletally by the collar bones! Ironically, I currently have a broken clavicle! Still didn't cross my mind.
Rob_T_Firefly ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:55:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some say it's still going further into the woman to this day.
SenpaiSkeleton ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:42:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody's dick's that long, not even Long Dick Johnson, and he had a fucking long dick.
rightnowl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:35:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you had used a word that starts with B for the second word instead of dick, you'd have the alter ego of Lyndon Johnson, who used to whip it out on the regular, apropos of absolutely nothing.
starcadia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've never met Bill Brasky.
ScrotumPower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
John Holmes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, man. Jon Lajoe claims to have a dick that's 25 inches long, and 12 inches thick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ow
Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was Long Dong Silver?
Huwbacca ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:47:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the ol' "once more unto the breach" technique
lemonade_eyescream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"For fucks' sake!!"
nk1992 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DIVE, DIVE!
jesabele13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she spend too much time reading Fantastic Four as a child?
SordidDreams ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:34:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she's an avid reader of John K. Pe-ta? Don't google that.
kapu_koa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:20:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I googled it. Among the first things i saw was a man, saying "I have three size D batteries lodged in my asshole as a defense measure. I call it 'the shining dragon'".
What have I done? I'm going deeper.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Deeper than those batteries? ๐
HippopotamusGirl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:23:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is some horrifying erotica out there that makes me wonder if people are at all familiar with anatomy. "She moaned as he pushed and penetrated past her cervix and into her womb..."
No. Nope. Nooooooo.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the magically self-lubricanting anus/rectum!
Lesbian erotica is the worst. Always blatantly clear when it was written by some clueless probably young guy who's never apparently seen a woman's anatomy.
Also love the ridiculous euphemisms. He pushed his meat stick deep into my baby maker.
lemonade_eyescream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:23:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know whether to be ashamed that I instantly recognized the name. Yes, I have an account on e-hentai.
MuddyWaterTeamster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A guy in freshman health raised his hand and asked if a guy had sex with a pregnant woman would his penis hit the baby. Health teacher assured him the baby would be fine.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. NO. Oh my god NO.
CursesandMutterings ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:49:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a lady, my cervix just rescinded three feet into my body just thinking of that.
Tzipity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So how tall are you? Because at three feet I'm just envisioning mine popping out of my mouth like a strange looking quarter. ;)
snaverevilo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow your dick's only 14 inches, how's it going to bend round all the tubes?!
WarlordTim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...how big must she have thought penises are?
WhiteDiabla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Oh my god.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To the throat. Deep throat.
HansumJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only in porn.
multibrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gaaah.
cjojojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn what kind of dicks has she been taking?!
_Ninja_Wizard_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. Reminds me of the penis/butthole/breast exam they gave to the 3rd years in med school.
A some of the girls have never seen a penis before, and the model they were using had a dick that almost swung down to his knees.
Poor girls will never get a guy to live up Swingin' Sam.
BeardsuptheWazoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not with my penis. I'm glad to hit the cervix.
cousinlazlo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my female students (college) asked me after class what a clitoris was.
AceOfRhombus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I lost a tampon in myself and I'm not a big fan of sticking my hands down there, so I had my boyfriend help me. While he was feeling around he goes, "I think I can feel your fallopian tubes!"
I also never figured out what happened to the tampon. I think it feel out when I jumped in the lake...
paraworldblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe all her sexual experiences had been with ducks
whittiez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a boyfriend who thought it would be most pleasing sexually for a girl to have her cervix penetrated. I'm very glad he didn't try too hard to make that happen.
ThoriGilmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What medical school did she get into?
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How big did she think a dick is? And how disappointed was she when she learned the truth?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This girl must have been taking some lengthy cocks the past four years if she thinks it reaches all that way.
CanuckPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Google Piper Perri, and explain the biology of that one. Like that shit goes into her intestines.
DocGerbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
talk about bbc fetishes
pavlovslog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does when this guy is involved.
mechapoitier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well to be fair that's probably how some monster creatures do it.
Socks192 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, in some hentai novels this is the case buuuuuuut...
GordonRamsayVevo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The question mark at the end is what really sells it for me.
NightMgr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend used to work in a very large famous teaching hospital back in the 70s prior to internet porn.
Once a year, the most well attended lecture of the year because non-students attended, would be porn films.
They would demonstrate various sexual practices, positions, slang terms.
Many of the students there were virgins, had never dated, and never even kissed. They were overachievers who didn't listen to schoolyard talk and their parents were too uptight to tell them anything about sex.
ElderlyPowerUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time for a physical demonstration.
queefiest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds sexy ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Narnia! The lion the witch and the vulva!
argella1300 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:17 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, it's sounds like the author of Belinda Blinked got his sex ed the same place your med student got theirs
SayceGards ยท 1887 points ยท Posted at 20:55:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a nursing student. I was checking the carseat and walking a postpartum mom out of the hospital. Mind you, this was her fifth child. Five. She had raised 4 other children to adolescence. But for this one, on the way outside, she took a blanket and tucked it around the baby's head and face, nice and taut.
bennie-andthejets ยท 2297 points ยท Posted at 21:34:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe four was enough..
paby ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 05:52:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Well, on second thought, I don't think I want this one." tuck tuck
erikarew ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 02:12:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I just spat tea all over my keyboard.
MissFegg ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 03:23:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the brit.
ThatOneObnoxiousGuy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One is plenty for this nut.
Billquisha ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I logged in just to upboat this
BennyPB ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk what's with all the downboats:/ lol
suqoria ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:11:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk maybe they don't want people to find them and they live under the ocean?
[deleted] ยท 258 points ยท Posted at 00:43:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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UndeniablyPink ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 03:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the actual fuck. I wonder how some people survive sometimes.
Mr_tipco ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 03:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Well, my parents never used a car seat and I turned out all right."
Never mind that you just weren't ever in a car accident.
inucune ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 04:48:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Survivor bias
whelks_chance ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 10:25:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100% of the people I interviewed were alive.
Interviewing people saves lives!
blixon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:49:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother in law always used this line! Bizarre...I thought it was just him.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's lines like this that really make me understand that there is no justice in this world.
Mobileswede ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:03:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While riding a car with a baby in your lap is not the safest option for the baby, it will still work out fine most of the time. I'm 37 years old and have never been in a car accident.
deceasedhusband ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? I'm not even allowed to leave my hospital after I give birth unless I have a car seat. Regardless of my method of transportation they're not allowed to let me leave with my baby unless I have a car seat.
Dark13579 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 05:06:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, just throw the little fucker in a side car on the Harley. I'll take the turns easy on the way home after I stop for a tall boy and a pack of smokes.
IWantALargeFarva ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 04:53:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this in the United States? We're not allowed to leave the hospital in my state without a nurse checking that you have a properly installed car seat. Which is amusing to me because my husband is a certified car seat technician and knows way more about it than the nurse.
w00t9lol ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 07:04:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not questioning you but "certified carseat technician" sounds made up xD
IWantALargeFarva ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://cert.safekids.org/
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:01:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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wreckingballheart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:16:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US at least there are actual training programs people can go to in order to get certified in carseats.
demostravius ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:25:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds similar to a complaint my dad had when building his house. As an Electronic Engineer he is far more qualified to judge, but it is still a legal requirement for an Electrician to come check everything is working.
Honestly I think it's a good idea, 2 eyes better than one and all that.
putzarino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, in Texas, they barely cared whether one was installed, let alone correctly.
eckliptic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:18:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our hospital literally wont discharge your baby unless you take her out in a car seat. It extra ridiculous because I'm in NYC and most people dont even own cars...
[deleted] ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 21:13:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What. What the... Was she highly medicated? I don't... what?
SayceGards ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 21:37:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. She was unmedicated enough to walk out of the hospital and be allowed to take care of an infant, so.... I think she might have just been dumb.
[deleted] ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 22:36:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I'm going to also guess she didn't plan to have 5, it 'just happened'
EternityTheory ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Lord's blessed us with another!
cochon1010 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:10:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me chortle, haha
SeanTheTranslator ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Made you what?
cochon1010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chortle!
kfagoora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is that word in urban dictionary?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chortle
Trexy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a woman who had a baby this year, let me tell you, you leave on some meds. There's a reason you can't drive.
friedbrainontoast ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:50:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not necessarily true that all women leave on meds that would impair functioning. Lots of women, myself included, leave on nothing but ibuprofen and stool softener. Obviously if you have a c-section, a major abdominal surgery, you're more likely to be on stronger painkillers.
AllCheeseEverything ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:32:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My first birth (2014) I left the hospital on Percocet with a prescription for 30 more in hand. Second birth I used a midwife, she just gave me Lortab.
FlatElvis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Midwives prescribe medicine?
granite_counter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:16:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are multiple kinds of midwives, just like there are different kinds of nurses. Midwives also have different permissions in different countries. There are definitely some who can't prescribe, and some who can.
AllCheeseEverything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My midwife was a nurse practitioner, so yes.
twistedpants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a c section in the UK and got paracetamol and ibuprofen as my pain killers. However you're not supposed to drive for 6 weeks afterwards and the first few day any car travel was total agony.
SayceGards ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:05:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was a vag. The most we give them is ibuprofen. Our sections usually get sent home with percocet, but that's not the only reason we tell them to refrain from driving
Emro08 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a vaginal birth with all 3 and the first two I left on hydrocodone. Tears up the labia and in the vaginal wall are no joke!
Jennasie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have had two sections. I left the hospital on Motrin. But it's more likely that you just had MAJOR ABDOMINAL SURGERY than the meds that they restrict driving and other things. I couldn't drive after my first section for almost 6 months because of the pain when pushing the petals. I cannot imagine attempting to drive after only a few weeks, even completely sober.
Trexy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I left on Percocet and ibuprofen. I had a C-section that got infected. I was not cleared to drive for well over six weeks, because I had to stay on the meds due to an open wound. Making a blanket "Oh she left therefore she is OK" is utter and complete bullshit. And that's why moms go home and husbands figure they can resume normal activities like vacuuming (which you are forbade to do with a section).
FaithCPR ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:51:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vacuuming? They gave me a list of many things I couldn't do after my cesarian, but vacuuming was not one of them. Unless it was a very heavy vaccum maybe?
Brandy2008 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:29:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
did the doctor not give your husband your discharge instructions?
Trexy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently my bil did not receive those. My sister was vacuuming less than a week after her's.
Brandy2008 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:38:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't she have just....not vacuumed?
SayceGards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I just said this lady was a vag who was only on ibuprofen so.... I know she wasn't on any medications that would fuck with her thinking
Trexy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right because that hormone crash after delivery does NOTHING to you. You may be a nurse, but you very clearly don't understand childbirth.
SayceGards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup I clearly know nothing. You did it once and you now know everything and my time on the unit means nothing
lizzyhuerta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I too had a vaginal delivery, with stitching on 2nd degree tears, and they gave me Tylenol with codedine for the additional pain. Honestly, I only took it for 2.5 days (still took the high dose of ibuprofen for a week), but I was still on the codeine when I left the hospital and wasn't allowed to drive.
summerwasting ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:03:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I left on some Ibruprofin...
Trexy ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:12:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for you. I didn't.
summerwasting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't trying to be snide.
cherrymama ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:09:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one ever offered to give me any for either of my two :( I wouldn't have minded. I had an epidural but still, it was quite tender for days afterwards !
ReallyFool ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 03:16:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife drove.
I wanted to play candy crush on the way home
BeeCJohnson ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 23:47:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Air can sometimes carry bacteria, so you gotta keep that shit out of the baby.
reverendbeast ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:39:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Swaddling gone wrong.
gracefulwing ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:53:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the day, they did recommend using mufflers on babies. There's a photo of one of my Grampy's sisters all bundled up in the snow with a big muffler on, you can barely see her eyes.
wetowetobetobe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:34:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no :( poor baby
self3dot0 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:28:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Early onset post-partum depression?
JingerCandy ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:34:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Linen baby blankets are pretty breathable. If it was thin enough, the baby could still breath but wouldn't get shocked by the chill.
So it might be less she's stupid, but just done it so many times she knows what babies can take.
hilarymeggin ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:28:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, especially not a newborn. According to our pediatrician, the reason that using ceiling fans reduces the likelihood of SIDS is that newborns don't breathe hard enough to circulate the air around their noses and mouths, so they keep breathing and re-breathing the same air. Having the baby's face covered with a linen blanket could only make that worse.
JingerCandy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, I haven't heard that about SIDS before.
It's not something I would do, but it reminds me of when Jamie Oliver was carrying his 4th kids like this
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/22/article-1314233-0B4E8E19000005DC-365_468x559.jpg
And people got very upset, but all his kids are alive and kicking still. That stereotype that people treat each child a bit more laxly is kinda true ime.
Fascists_Blow ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 23:47:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No that's still really fucking stupid.
"Trust me officer, I know how hot cars can get, but I've dealt with babies before and I knew that a baby can take a half hour in one."
Jaegermeiste ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear you can get it up to 34 minutes with practice.
[deleted] ยท -26 points ยท Posted at 01:11:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Fascists_Blow ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you suggesting that after enough experience with kids a parent could safely leave one in a hot car?
Because if so please don't fucking have kids. Experience doesn't come into it. Covering a babies mouth with a blanket is dangerous. Period.
[deleted] ยท -43 points ยท Posted at 01:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Betababy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:41:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa, dude... Are you sure you didn't have one too many blankets over your face as a kid?
FootSizeDoesntMatter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:31:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha what
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Eugostodetortas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear lord
TheJediCounsel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the Xanthous crown tho. Truly legendary
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:41:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know this is gonna sound stupid, but I don't think I understand what she did wrong... it sounds like she was trying to keep the babies head warm? Don't babies lose a ton of body heat through their heads? By tucked do you mean WRAPPED? As in she tied it around the head tightly? Even so, I'm not entirely sure what she did wrong...
And for those of you concerned, since I'm sure whatever I'm missing is gonna start a lot of "Please tell me you don't have children"... no I do not.
SayceGards ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't tuck anything over the baby's face. That's where the baby breathes from. You can put a hat on the baby, but don't put a cloth directly on its face.
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:22:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH, she covered the babies face completely, NOW i get it.
ScrotumPower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Russians do something similar, except they leave (only) the face free.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/6341998_fig2_A-photo-of-Russian-swaddled-baby
The child looks like some kind of matryoshka doll.
This is (one of many reasons) why I'm against traditions. If you don't have a rational reason to do something, don't fucking do it.
SayceGards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's legit though. It's cold in Russia. This woman put the cloth over the baby's face and airway
dragoongirl1990 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she used to have more children...
Annoy_Occult_Vet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:03:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was almost G5 T5 P5 A0 L4
SayceGards ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:20:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait how did she have 5 term and 5 preterm
Annoy_Occult_Vet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:22:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because I have been drinking lol
Alcohol made me think parity not preterm for some reason.
PandaGPiggy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason, this was the first thing in the thread that made me laugh out loud
kellydean1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to see the other 4 kids before I make any judgements here.
MadCab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What ended up happening?
SayceGards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I said "hey don't do that drape it over the handle" and she listened at least for that day I don't know what happened after that though
xray_anonymous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ssshhhh...only dreams now
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:52:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Steroid1 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:05:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Post partem means after birth, not to be confused with post Mortem
SayceGards ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Partum, and mortum. Just fyi
Steroid1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it's mortem and partum so we were both 50% right
fraxert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did it say the baby died?
moltenshrimp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Postmortem! Can you read?!
SayceGards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:10:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nowhere, read the whole thing
SayceGards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was wrong, I apologize
Theappunderground ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:20:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying she killed the baby or what? Im not getting this.
SayceGards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She easily could have.
[deleted] ยท 353 points ยท Posted at 01:21:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:51:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TAKE MY CONDOMS. TAKE ALL OF THEM I'm actually crying ๐
inluvwithlove ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 10:19:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was waiting for her to say she was inserting the pill into her vagina.
lookitsnichole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea if this would work for birth control, but you can put Plan B in your vagina rather than taking it by mouth.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:59:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh...no. Fucking take your Plan B, put it in your mouth, and swallow it.
lookitsnichole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the suggested way to take it, but it can cause nausea and vomiting. It's better to take it in the less suggested way then puke it out.
The instructions used to say you could. Not sure if it's changed.
jacyerickson ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:00:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why aren't these resources available where I live? Ugh. I'm low income and would LOVE free/low cost birth control but don't live in an area where that's possible.
vanity-manatee ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:10:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Move to England. Free contraception over here.
jacyerickson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky. :(
doctorowlsound ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:45:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where approximately do you live? Planned Parenthood has a generous sliding scale.
jacyerickson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
California. There's no Planned Parenthood anywhere near me.
doctorowlsound ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the nearest city to you? You can pm me if you want. There are other services available such as Title X (ten) clinics that can provide low or no cost contraception. I work in one so have access to some good search tools that are not publicly available.
lowjackrocks81 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:37:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in california, try the app Nurx if you need birth control. I tried when I moved and didn't have a doctor yet, and it's honestly the best!
jacyerickson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll check it out, thank you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rural area?
jacyerickson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Semi-rural. There's a decent size city nearby but for some reason it really lacks resources for low income folks.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:42:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check your state health department as well. For example, my state will ship you 30 condoms free of charge.
Also any nearby university health service can provide you with other resources you might have overlooked.
[deleted] ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 11:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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wicqour ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:02:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people use birth controls to manage periods too.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:40:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
periods, pms, cramps, acne, excessive hair growth, pcos, hormonal issues and syndromes, the pill is actually damn useful.
wicqour ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh, for sure! periods were the first thing that came to mind, but yeah, the pill is definitely not just to prevent pregnancies.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My fiancรฉ recently got on the pill a few months ago. She says it's helped a lot. It's not a miracle worker but every bit helps, she says
Parapolikala ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:18:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reply really misses the point. Of course everyone should be responsible, but it is absurd when a wealthy country cannot mobilize the communal spirit to support collective action to provide basic medical care, such as contraception.
Also, people who give answers like yours seem to imagine that the extreme individualism they are promoting will lead to some kind of social Darwinist eugenic pay off. Quite the contrary, people fuck anyway, and poor people fuck like fuck. Your libertarian idealism has just created a world full of stupid poor people with infectious diseases and guns. Well done!
one_armed_herdazian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pavlovslog ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:49:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd probably find a better solution to this by telling them they have to put the condoms completely over their heads and not take them off no matter how sleepy they get.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:51:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like someone I work with, that's sad.
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I take a BC pill right before I have sex! lmao
I think she might be oddly confused with Plan B or the morning after pill (my ignorance: are those actually different treatments??).
Edit: spelling
doctorowlsound ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:46:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Emergency contraception is anything that can be used after sex to prevent pregnancy. The morning after pill is the generic term for any pill that will do this, of which Plan B is one of the more commonly available brands. The Paragard (copper) IUD is the most effective emergency contraception, and can be used for up to 10-12 years of extremely effective pregnancy prevention after it is placed.
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for clarifying. My OB-GYN suggested an IUD to me, then did my pelvic exam and said she would not administer it to me under any circumstance because I haven't had children and my cervix is at a weird angle and it would be too painful. :/ My best friend had one "installed" pre-children and was given narcotics for the pain and said she never needed them. Kinda upset that I can't get one. Maybe I need a second opinion...
doctorowlsound ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:17:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can go on quite a rant about this, I will do my best to contain myself.
Her claim that you have to have had a child before getting an IUD is incorrect. The Mirena, which is the most common hormonal IUD, is FDA approved only for women who have had children, but is commonly and safely used by women who have not had children. Basically it was a short cut Bayer took during the approval process to get it to the US market faster.
"Anatomic abnormalities" however, which is ambiguous, but generally means a uterus positioned or shaped in a way that an IUD would not fit, is an absolute contraindication to getting an IUD.
Regarding the pain during insertion: I did a meta-analysis on this, which I am hoping to get published soon, and have presented on. Basically nothing helps with the insertion pain short of getting an epidural or general anesthesia. Cytotec (misoprostol), ibuprofen, and lidocaine have no effect on pain during insertion and in the case of Cytotec, can significantly increase the pain, which I can go into more detail on if you're curious. Narcotics are not recommended at all. The pain can range significantly from barely noticeable to quite intense, but universally it subsides within 5-10 minutes. Ibuprofen or similar can help for the cramping that some women experience for the first ~2 weeks after placement.
Hope this helped and happy to answer any questions!
edit: tl;dr your ob/gyn is at least partly wrong. get a second opinion and/or tell her she's full of it and to check out the guidelines by the American Academy of Pediatrics and American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.
yosol ยท 10679 points ยท Posted at 18:24:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That having sex gets you pregnant. It was a 20+ year old woman that couldn't grasp the idea that sex leads to pregnancy. She thought that in order for a man and a woman to have children, they needed to be married first and then have a baby. That sex was just an act unrelated to it.
Then again, we are talking about a small rural community in the middle of fucking-nowhere, Mexico.
EDIT: My highest rated comment. Awesome, thank you. Also, it's amazing how common this misconception is all around the world.
smokesmagoats ยท 3820 points ยท Posted at 20:13:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked with a woman (27) who claimed she was a nurse before. She thought HIV magically manifested if blood was involved in sex. I made a joke about having sex while on my period and she was genuinely concerned about HIV. I explained one of the two would have to be infected for that to be an issue. I ended with telling her to google it.
yosol ยท 2006 points ยท Posted at 20:24:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me see if I understood. 2 non-infected people + blood during sex = HIV infection?
smokesmagoats ยท 1652 points ยท Posted at 20:26:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Blood+sex= magical manifestation of the HIV virus
DiabloConQueso ยท 2672 points ยท Posted at 20:29:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throw in a little sugar and you got yourself an album that may go platinum 7 times.
Herogamer555 ยท 456 points ยท Posted at 21:06:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I've got you've got to give it your mama.
[deleted] ยท 149 points ยท Posted at 22:16:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I've got you've got to give it to your papa.
Cavhind ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 22:35:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I've got you gotta get it put it in you
smudgyblurs ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:50:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now, boys, the network has a problem with some of your lyrics. Do you mind changing them for the show? Here where it says, "What I got you gotta get and put it in ya," how about just, "What I'd like is I'd like to hug and kiss ya."
AmpleWarning ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:52:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Fiiiiine."
fifteen minutes later, on stage...
WHAT I GOT YOU GOTTA GET AND PUT IT IN YA
smudgyblurs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was referencing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QClC-W8Znto
AmpleWarning ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. And I was going further back to this https://youtu.be/61m_Dm44RHA?t=55s
TheVentiLebowski ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-That's much better.
-Everyone can enjoy that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QClC-W8Znto
mustangbraveheart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:04:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love Reddit so much.
BlameItOnBlue ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:50:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the years start coming and the don't stop coming
Winklestoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I've got you've got to give it to your mama What I've got you've got to give it to your pappa What I've got you've got to give it to your daughter You do a little dance and then you drink a little water What I've got you've got to get it put it in you What I've got you've got to get it put it in you What I've got you've got to get it put it in you Reeling with the feeling don't stop continue Realize I don't want to be a miser Confide with sly you'll be the wiser Young blood is the lovin' upriser How come everybody want to keep it like the kaiser Give it away give it away give it away now Give it away give it away give it away now Give it away give it away give it away now I can't tell if I'm a kingpin or a pauper Greedy little people in a sea of distress Keep your more to receive your less Unimpressed by material excess Love is free love me say hell yes I'm a low brow but I rock a little know how No time for the piggies or the hoosegow Get smart get down with the pow wow Never been a better time than right now Bob Marley poet and a prophet Bob Marley taught me how to off it Bob Marley walkin' like he talk it Goodness me can't you see I'm gonna cough it Give it away give it away give it away now Give it away give it away give it away now Give it away give it away give it away now Lucky me swimmin' in my ability Dancin' down on life with agility Come and drink it up from my fertility Blessed with a bucket of lucky mobility My mom I love her 'cause she love me Long gone are the times when she scrub me Feelin' good my brother gonna hug me Drink my juice young love chug-a-lug me There's a river born to be a giver Keep you warm won't let you shiver His heart is never gonna wither Come on everybody time to deliver Give it away give it away give it away now Give it away give it away give it away now Give it away give it away give it away now What I've got you've got to give it to your mama What I've got you've got to give it to your pappa What I've got you've got to give it to your daughter You do a little dance and then you drink a little water
Later_Player ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:48:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you do this?
Sexy_Flowchart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This person also probably uses song lyrics as a Facebook status.
Winklestoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
nope facebook is for squares
Winklestoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh
sephresx ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 00:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chili peppers suck!
mattfrench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
im sorry it appears nobody gets your comment
sephresx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I expected the down votes. Thanks for the sympathy though.
sephresx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:59:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on mobile. Constantly refreshing the screen changes the amount of down votes I get. Sometimes it hits -30, at times it goes as high as -24. Back and forth.
Some people agree. I'm not alone.
murderhalfchub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah man that's now how comment score is displayed. It does that for nearly all my comments (even if they haven't been seen by anyone yet, i.e. They are 2 min old).
Also RHCP is the bomb diggity yo
sephresx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww damn. Lol just when I had some hope.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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sephresx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To me they do.
77 million. Pfft, come back when you get to 78!
bunnicula_darklady ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do a little dance and then you drink a little water.... then the AIDs is gone =D
Nick_Kerttula ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:11 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oops. That hooker was NOT clean. better take my Dayquil, for stuffy noses, headaches and gonorrhea.
bunnicula_darklady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You killed me lol
Nick_Kerttula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:42 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was an old family guy joke.
Bombadilicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think the next line was "What I got you gotta give it to your dog..." I got laughed at pretty hard.
WiredSky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:13:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I...Uh... maybe we shouldn't have made that comparison...
MAG7C ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funniest comment I've seen all day! Alas it was too late.
feckineejit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if you got HIV please dont give it to your mama
worktempthrowaway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:33:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I've got you've got to give it to your pappa
waterlilyrm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just glanced at your comment while scrolling.... didnโt really register that I heard it in Anthony Kiedisโ voice until a moment later. Brains are weird.
Killamajig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What I want, is to grab and hug and squeeze you.
pinkkittenfur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
SadGhoster87 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:41:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it breaks your arms in the process
hedgehiggle ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 20:42:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I think you'd just end up with a yeast infection...
buttThroat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:17:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's what anthony kiedis wants us to give to our mamas
planes-are-cool ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:16:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And our daughtas
il1k3c3r34l ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:58:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Baby you got a stew goin'!
GunsGermsAndSteel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:56:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh yes. "Blood Sugar Incurable Disease Manifesting in Awful Miserable Death Magick". It's a classic.
Goncalerta ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:55:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throw then rice and it may go perfect platinum 5/7 times.
thekingdom195 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:47:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's when the Professor added... CHEMICAL X.
FixerJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment is woefully underrated.
crazyfist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just know my upvote was given begrudgingly
legumey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Needs some magic
UJ95x ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Virgowitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And magic. You gots to have some magic.
thermal_shock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a potato and get a stew going
ieeeeesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Add some spice and everything nice with an accidental chemical X. Thus the powerpuff girls were born!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tossup434 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't eat baby stew.
Caedro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can feel you inside me...Jesus
sbb618 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And maybe a K
toolatealreadyfapped ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then do we have a stew going?
rjlupin5499 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why girls shouldn't just give it away (give it away, give it away now).
icer816 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was about to make this joke, thank you Reddit for beating me to all the references I want to make tonight! It's kinda nice.
Trinitykill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Throw in a potato, baby you got a stew goin'.
ThisdudeisEH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have to fight it first, only responds to violence
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:59 on June 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
upvote and soda went through my nose you magnificent bastard
kitty_cat_MEOW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment deserves more recognition than it got. You're really clever!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:07:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now you take this home, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato. Baby, youโve got a stew going.
go_with_gusto ยท 556 points ยท Posted at 20:29:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood + Sugar + Sex + Magic = Red Hot Chili Peppers
EpiphanyMoon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:50:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I thought the same thing.
JWBails ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:47:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Magik
tinfins ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:14:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, RHCP - Sugar = HIV?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did the chili peppers cross the road?
planes-are-cool ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:18:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To get to the Othersiiiiiiiiide
Year3030 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give it away, now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How loong how loooOOOooong did it take?
dameon5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:02:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which explains why it burns when I pee.
-_-ThatGuy-_- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasnt blood+semen used to make one of (I think) Metallica's album covers. Blood and urine made another
MerricatBlackwood01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:59:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Load was the blood and semen, ReLoad was the blood and urine... (I'm so ashamed I know this...)
mungu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Magik*
PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BLOOD SUGAR BABY
ze_ex_21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sex + Red Hot Chili Peppers = Lots of Pain
crosscreative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to see this comment was made
OneEyedTrouserMouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Majik**
texthibitionist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, they're right.
(Source: owned One Hot Minute in high school. C+ work for the Peppers at best.)
NightGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that the album was named for all of the ways it was possible to get HIV (with sugar being heroin).
easyasNYC ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe it's "Blood sugar baby, she has it, sex magik, sex magik."
bearswithglowsticks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:32:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood sugar sex magic is the exact title of a smut yaoi. Enjoy.
marthadoesnt ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:46:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when it's Blood+Sugar+Sex+Magik = RHCP and it's the 90's again
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm flabbergast. And she claimed to be a nurse?
Rubyheart255 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 20:44:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She claims to be a nurse in the same way Pepper claims to be a doctor.
onionleekdude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:45:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me entirely too long to get this one.
inluvwithlove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does that mean I'm a Doctor too?
RelevantNomenclature ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:58:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi flabbergast, I'm Dad.
ObitoHanShinobi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do people need to say things like 'My current emotion is surprised' or 'I require the substance known as "Food" to survive' to avoid these jokes?
PM_ME_BIRDS_OF_PREY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. However, saying those things would avoid the joke.
yung_bubu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it's the easiest, oldest dad joke there is, I'll upvote it every time.
AllPurposeNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't the first time I heard of some misguided person believing that STDs spontaneously appear in response to unwed orgasms.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently birth defects were (sometimes) ascribed to the same cause.
FireLucid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure my mum thought the same thing except it you were both gay and had sex it would appear.
OPsMomsCock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn mages and their blood magic.
anroroco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BY THE MAKER, I HAD IT WITH THESE DAMNED APOSTATES WITH THEIR BLOOD MAGIC!
Bobo040 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood sugar baby, sex magic (HIV)!
Quigleyupunder2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a Red Hot Chile Peppers song lyric.
ajass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood sugar sex magic?
seeingeyegod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood Sugar Aids Magic
TheDukeOfHurl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood+Sugar+Sex+Magik.
DeadlyInertia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is extremely trivial and I'm wasting people's time who are reading this but HIV = Human immunodeficiency virus, so if you say HIV virus it's kind of repetitive.
It's really trivial but I guess worth knowing.
smokesmagoats ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:25:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, I will do nothing with that information.
DeadlyInertia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured as much, fair enough.
DiabloConQueso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it will pop into your head the next time you're at the ATM machine.
leumas9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are definitely the kind of people who think AIDS was sent by God to punish the gays.
btowntkd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "I" stands for "Immaculate."
SynthPrax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood magic is never the answer.
Siz27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik - Red Hot Chili Peppers?
JustBeNice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the comment of the day for me
richard_sympson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hemoglobin In Vaginas, I guess.
mrmdc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a really good podcast about it called 'Blood Sugar Sex Magik.' You should look it up.
Jurnis_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, I know of some people that believe Male + Male + sexytimes = HIV.
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yea right, thats what the round earthers want us to think. HIV and black people are a myth!!
Hiveul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like a Doodle God answer to me
GRewind ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Automatically thought of the Red hot chilli peppers
RitoPancaketree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HI virus virus? :P
suburban_hyena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bloodsexmagic
94358132568746582 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think we take for granted our understanding of the germ theory of disease. For pretty much all of human history, and apparently in rural communities all over the world today, it is not universally known.
JuRoJa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So THAT'S what that RHCP album was about
U_Bet_Im_Interested ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aye. It be'ith the use of blood magic, ser.
nomadofwaves ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:07:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Blood+sex+magic =shadow assassin.
lejohanofNWC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:24:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in second grade my school did a presentation on HIV/AIDS in each classroom. Being 7 they didn't really go into the details of how most people got sick (sex or sharing needles for example. All they said was if you come in contact with someone's blood, it's possible to get aids and that it kills you.
I shit you not, 3 days beforehand this little attention whore kid claimed to have cut himself. We all called bullshit and said it was ketchup, I tested wether or not it was by tasting it. He had in fact cut himself. I was terrified for a week before I just kind of forgot about it until we had sex ed.
Caiur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the prevailing theory among my fellow students and I in primary school - that just touching someone else's (non-infected) blood results in HIV infection. Also the result of teachers being vague about the transmission methods.
It seems very silly to teach kids about HIV/AIDS at an age when you're unwilling to go into details with them about sex and needle sharing. Surely it can wait until then.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was the 90s, and we heard about AIDS quite a bit. They would mention "sexual contact", but interestingly I had utterly no interest in that at the time, and would in fact be quite the late bloomer. I wondered why anyone would bother to do a thing like that...
serfrock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah-- two HIV negatives make a positive, of course.
sararasararasararas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BLOOD SUGAR BABY. SEX MAGIC.
Murse_Pat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a misunderstanding of the phrase "HIV can be transmitted by sexual contact and blood products"
can425 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Duh. Basic math. 2 negatives equal a positive.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've never had to deal with slower people, have you. Never met a slightly less sharp tool in the shed?
This kind of half-way "understanding" is typical for some people. Things weren't explained to them on their level, so they obviously didn't get everything. Instead of asking, they attempted to fill the gaps with reasoning.
That's what you get when slower people use reason.
vatsan16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Human immuno vampiritis
Coffeezilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a lot of misconceptions about sex it stems from a biblical thing. Before the modern tampon and feminine hygiene being on ones period was seen as "unclean." In a lot of places they hear that HIV/AIDS is transmitted through the blood, so they assume blood and doing "unclean" acts means that they get it. I worked with a few women and men from Africa and the women would refuse to work around anyone or in contact with anyone not a woman for fear of something around them being tainted by coming into contact with them during their period. Not even them getting period blood on something but that their presence would make things forever tainted.
Treczoks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if one of them sees someone else...
ronin1066 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:04:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I taught many Saudis and had a couple men tell me that if a woman has sex with multiple men in her life, she can get AIDS. No word about men getting it at all, only women with many partners. After much questioning, come to find out that they literally think the woman just "gets" AIDS from having multiple partners; none of the men needs to be infected for this to happen.
SmartAlec105 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't make no sense. There's tons of bacteria and stuff that are beneficial to you but if they go to the wrong place in your body, they will fuck shit up. But she probably didn't understand that HIV was a virus.
Cwmcwm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other words: Blood sugar, Sex, Magik.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well hey, this isn't all that strange to think if you're completely uneducated. Centuries ago we didn't know of the existence of microorganisms or viruses, let alone understand how they manifested themselves. And not just your regular average person, we're talking about every 'scientist' on the planet at the time.
If you're completely uneducated by outside sources, what are the chances you are some kind of mega genius who understands this concept long unknown to the entirety of mankind?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've talked to people that thought intravenous drug use (without sharing needles) would spontaneously give you HIV. Just you by yourself injecting a drug and wham! you've got HIV.
dpunisher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting this comes up. In 1980 when I was in high school we didn't even have a clue AIDS/HIV was on the horizon. In 1982 AIDs was on the news, but no one had a clue what caused it. Some suggested it was caused by reactions to semen being directly introduced into the bloodstream (homosexual intercourse) so you could have two non infected individuals that could generate AIDS. As far as we knew if you didn't have sex with gay people, you were golden (except for every other STD under the sun). It wasn't until a year or two later it was actually found to be a blood borne virus anyone could transmit, and then everything changed. By 1986 it was a different world.
yatsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even need two people, when you think about it.
mynewromantica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I can see why someone may think that. Non-pregnant woman + non-pregnant man + semen = baby. So... I can see how a miseducated person could come to that conclusion.
tradingten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No weirder than an immaculate conception.
SayceGards ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 20:57:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I love people who claim to be medical professionals. Sure your husband is a doctor. Maybe a doctor of English literature, because you two sure as shit have no idea what's going on here.
pupperjax ยท 344 points ยท Posted at 21:19:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend Ross studied paleontology in college, got a PhD and now calls himself a doctor. We all laugh at him though, he still has toy dinosaurs for crying out loud.
ineviatble-win ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 21:38:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you Chandler?
pupperjax ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:23:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never share my real name on Reddit... can you be any more forward?
Sam-Gunn ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:50:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Allright calm down, "Dr. Phalanges"
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:32:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair, do any of us NOT still have toy dinosaurs?
kjata ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:36:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have toy Dinobots. Technically, it doesn't count, because they're not realistic and they turn into robuts, but also technically, it super does.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:02:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do you play with them while making dinosaur sounds and then crash them into each other and make splosion sounds? Then it counts!
kjata ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:08:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"ME GRIMLOCK THINK WE SHOULD CALL IT YOUR GRAVE!"
"AHHH! ME SNARL CURSE SUDDEN BUT INEVITABLE BETRAYAL!"
BruteTartarus66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where is this from? I've seen this somewhere before...
kjata ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mashed up Firefly and Transformers.
BruteTartarus66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's it, it was in one of the early episodes of Firefly. Thank you kind sir!
ascends
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Remasa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist here, can confirm. I can count on one hand the number of times I've been called "doctor".
Syfildin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:39:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a Friend's reference? I mean he us a doctor, and has a high level of education. I dunno it feels wierd to laugh at the fact that he enjoys what he does.
Sam-Gunn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:51:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, his neurotic behavior is why we laugh.
Syfildin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, makes sense. I dunno why I thought it was a friend's reference, I've never even seen that show
Sam-Gunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, Ross's humor comes in how seriously he takes geology, his neuroses, he sometimes acts like the "straight man" of the group when other people in the group are joking with him, etc.
Future_Jared ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay. Since he's the largest "Friend," he'll eat them during sweeps week
danceycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a Friends reference. All the other friends teased him about his job often on the show
megeler07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:32:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the biggest coincidence, I think ive heard about this Ross guy. When I was backpacking in Eastern Europe, there was this guy called Ken Adams and he told me that exact story!
pupperjax ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:39:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
raises hand "Ken Adams!"
SayceGards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:38:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understood that reference.
Mezzaomega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dem toy dinos are collectibles in Japan, you don't understand...
daisytwigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He IS technically a doctor of philosophy.. that's what PHD stands for lol
drsfmd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No technically about it. He's a doctor. He's not a physician.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spotted the transponster.
Koolaidguy541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here, take your upvote and be on your way. Quickly.
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up, Joey. You're just a shitty actor.
-TheDoctor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet his catchphrase is "I'm a leaf on the wind."
NeverRainingRoses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, he sounds like an entitled baby.
Lady_Eemia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And possible rapist. Definitely does plenty of victim blaming to explain away his creepy-ass behavior toward Rachel and his own Doggamn cousin.
goo_goo_gajoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THEY WERE ON A BREAK!
WhatAGayTwist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/howyoudoin for reference
Pumcy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is a doctor.
docยทtor หdรคktษr/Submit noun 1. a qualified practitioner of medicine; a physician. synonyms: physician, MD, medical practitioner, clinician; More 2. a person who holds a doctorate.
dimebanez ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:29:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a neighbour who claimed she'd been a nurse. There was a car vs motorcycle crash out the front and she flipped the fuck out and was running around shrieking. She was about to yank the unconcious motorcycle riders helmet off until everybody else told her to stop, shut up and go away because he could have a neck injury. We could see he was breathing well and hadn't filled the helmet with vomit, so removing it was an unnecessary risk.
duckface08 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, she could very well have been a nurse, but perhaps a nurse who wasn't accustomed to that sort of situation. I'm an RN and my experience is primarily limited to general medicine, oncology, cardiology, and some critical care (I work in a step-down unit, so not a full ICU that takes on ventilators and stuff like that). If you sent me to a trauma, I wouldn't be sure what to do, either, and would feel quite anxious. Someone having a baby? Wouldn't have a clue, either.
Nurses work in a variety of roles, including some who have never worked in a hospital or in acute situations. Examples of settings they could work in: long-term care (like nursing homes), research, education, community nursing, and public health.
Galgameth ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:45:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, the medical professional would not be a Doctor, but someone holding a Doctorate in English would be a Doctor. The medical professional was originally a 'physician', and took the title of Doctor as it was, at the time, considered the much more prestigious title.
I know this because I have a degree in English literature.
The degree was still worthless. Be a physician.
FulbrightJones ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:20:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or do both. I occasionally slip in Shakespeare in my patient notes.
Vigilante17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But Dr. Dre said so!
Erisianistic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also seen very good medical doctors be so absurdly specialized that they can diagnose cancer from a mile away, but would look like deer in headlights when presented with a common cold or a broken arm
EsQuiteMexican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just reminded me of a joke I saw on Facebook recently.
FerricNitrate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed "nurses" tend to be the worst offenders in these situations. I've seen several people giving awful medical advice (I'm a grad student in biomedical engineering, so while I'm not an expert in everything medical I know enough to spot when something is pretty badly inaccurate) and they usually claim to be nurses, rather than go the full mile and pretend to be a physician or surgeon (their comments, btw, are very often upvoted by people who don't know any better; so watch out and check what you read). I almost wonder if it's something personal that makes them identify as a nurse, or if they just think people are less likely to call them out or try to verify if they're a medical doctor.
Fascists_Blow ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I really wouldn't put it past a nurse to believe that.
SayceGards ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
crono09 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:29:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine in college thought that anytime two men had sex, one of them could magically contract HIV. She didn't understand that one of them had to be already infected in order to give it to the other. This could be put off as ordinary ignorance except that she was a junior biology major and should have had enough classes by then to know how viruses spread.
The_Dirty_Carl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is part of why it's not called GRID (Gay-related immune deficiency) anymore.
WhimsyUU ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a surprising amount of people who still think this about gay men. They think that gay men can get HIV from each other's bodily fluids even if neither of them have it. They're under the impression that only gay men have anal sex and that anal sex creates HIV.
melburns86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really surprising. I'm sure people used this as ammo to hate on LGBQ people.
"Don't even go near a gay, Jimmy! You could get AIDS just from them breathin on ya!"
DCromo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's actually fascinating. if she did take to and understood the advice to google it. like googling it is its own magical explainer of things.
also, are you an ob/gyn? and why do you guys always have the oddest sense of humor? not that there's anything wrong with doing that but making a joke of it...whyyyy?
smokesmagoats ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:24:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not an obgyn. I am an optician. Basically a pharmacy tech for glasses but I can't kill you but I do have to decipher your prescription and explain everything to you, help you pick out glasses that work, help you choose through lens options because the same lens does not work as well for every rx.
DCromo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well you have an awesome sense of humor.
i feel like my optician is never that helpful and just tied to sell me on what gives them the most commission. if they're even actually trained opticians and not jsut hired sales in lab coats.
anyway, pretty funny. and glasses that don't fit will kill you from the regular headaches and constant pushing up your nose you need to do :P.
smokesmagoats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yeah I don't make commission at my job. I also don't get paid as much as I'm worth but I'll have maternity leave in five months so I'm stuck.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend when I was about ten who, when I accidentally scratched myself and started bleeding, told me to stay away from her because she might get AIDS.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you said "worked" did you mean "I worked at an outpatient facility, and we had this patient who"?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing the amount of boys who think you can only get aids if you have sex with a girl while she's on her period and the rest of the time you are safe.
LadyInTheWindow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, to be fair, chances of HIV transmission do increase when blood is involved in sex.
ThePsychoKnot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend in high school thought the same thing but without the blood part. She was genuinely concerned that one of us could contract an STD through intercourse, even though neither of us had one to begin with.
gussforlife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like the gay community some of them genuinely think that if you blow a load in another guys ass that both of them will magically get aids.
greatm31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I was pretty convinced of the same thing when I was in middle school. Everyone kept warning about how sex would lead to AIDS that I guessed I missed the part about how at least one of them has to be infected for it to happen!
Also I remember thinking there were two levels of HIV infection, "negative" and "positive". I think I saw some health video where they were like "just because you're negative doesn't mean you're in the clear!"
Man, public school health education SUCKS.
lunarstar17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In her defense, I was taught that exact thing in my 7th grade health class. It wasn't until about 6 months later after freaking the fuck out about touching my sisters cut hand that I was taught how you ACTUALLY get HIV.
Mingsplosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So did she think everyone who does BDSM get AIDS? Eh who I am kidding, someone that sexually naive probably has no idea was bondage is.
iamadrunkama ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think that everyone who is into bondage is also into blood play?
Mingsplosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a joke. Of course most bondage doesn't draw blood. Maybe some minor scrapes, but plenty of couples don't even do that
umaijcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dated a girl who was an optometrist (degreed, prescription writing, US Doctor) in her early 30s. I do not remember how it came up, but she thought men had a special tube for urine, separate from the one for cum. No, I told her. One tube. the urethra handles both.
This was funny because we had dated a few weeks, but at that instant we both lost all interest in sex. She because she was so grossed out by the fact that my penis also touched urine, and me because I could not believe I was dating an idiot.
After a couple more encounters where she examined my penis very carefully trying to wrap her head around it all, (unfortunately, not literally) we broke up.
smokesmagoats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I can't blame you. Hopefully you turned her gay. I bet she was thinking about how much pee she sucked on.
ItPutsLotionOnItSkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
El Google es el diablo.
smokesmagoats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She immigrated to America from Mexico as a very small child. So yes, relevant.
FrankieAK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me a co-worker I used to have thought AIDS manifested from anal sex.
He found out I engage in anal sex and asked me if I was worried about aids. And I eventually figured out that he thought that anal sex CAUSED aids. This man was in his late 40s.
normlenough ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she doesn't understand the worry free wonders of period sex.
smokesmagoats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh dude I hope you don't think period sex won't get you pregnant. Because it will.
normlenough ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm married so it's okay if we get pregnant. More period sex please.
Amazon_Princess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of a friend on Facebook said that the reason gay men have a higher risk of HIV is because of butt sex. He was convinced that butt sex caused HIV even if neither of the people having sex actually had HIV.
Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a very smart guy who once told me it wasnt until college when he figured out the whole TRANSMITTED part of STDs, that theyre not some spontaneous autoimmune condition that sometimes happens when you have sex. Way to go sex ed!
dogisquiet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually sounds like she might have been listening to some far right, evangelical sermons. A lot of far right preachers really stress the idea that homosexual sex is dangerous (involves blood play) and that that is why AIDS is rampant (I know it's not) among homosexuals, and people who are sexually perverted. To the extent that they never mention the virus. Evangelicals who took this message to Uganda and influenced legislation there are all about this.
smokesmagoats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was Mexican Catholic but there isn't a huge difference in religious fanatics.
derkman96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of something I saw iv drug users concerned about on the internet. A guy was asking how to best prevent himself getting hepatitis c and believed you get hep c from old blood and that if you left your own old blood in a syringe then used that syringe again you could give yourself hep c from your own blood.
LeiLeiVB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex thought this. He would be so worried if I had my period and we badoinked. I had to explain it to him. I stayed with him too long >_<
LittleSadEyes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:13:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have distinct memories of middle school, when we were being fed some propaganda about abstinence, the health teacher said something toeing the line of "if you have sex, you WILL contract an irreversible disease." quiet little logical and confused me raised my hand.
"what if both people don't have a disease?"
We then had an extended back-and-forth where I tried to get an answer, he refused to confirm the logic of how diseases spread, and ultimately most of the class by the end had caught on that we weren't being informed honestly.
Meanwhile, I just needed to know if my understanding of how diseases spread was wrong or something.
Crazylittleloon ยท 1754 points ยท Posted at 21:04:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was younger I thought that you had to eat a "baby seed" and they gave you a discount if you were married.
yosol ยท 1393 points ยท Posted at 21:10:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just adorable. When I was young, I thought you had to swallow a mouse and that mouse grew into a baby. Why? The hell if I know.
Crazylittleloon ยท 1216 points ยท Posted at 21:15:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got the whole seed thing from when my mom told me I was going to have a little brother, and I asked why we couldn't have him now.
"Because he has to grow first!"
"Like a flower?"
"Yes, like a flower."
Flowers come from seeds and babies grow like flowers, so I figured that babies must come from seeds.
AfroTriffid ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 22:34:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We told my 5 year old that daddy gave mommy a seed and put it in her belly. He insists we got the wrong seed for his little brother that we should have a baby girl. Even offered to find a seed for me.
Crazylittleloon ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:48:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, how cute.
PM_ME_DANK_MEMESS ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:50:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, babies come from a special seed.
BlueRaccoonBoi ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 21:32:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No wonder marriage equality is such a big deal! They want discounts on their babies. You know how the gays are when it comes to sales... /s
bestjakeisbest ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:40:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just like the jews /ss
/j
SwiggityStag ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:25:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I won't buy shit if it's not on sale, but that's probably because I'm broke.
kjata ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:40:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact! "Semen" comes from the Latin for "seed". Turns out a lot of people thought the way you did. If a bit less literally.
Owyn_Merrilin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:33:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The English for "seed" is occasionally used that way, too. It's pretty archaic, though. Pretty much only turns up in bibles and fantasy novels these days. Probably only in older translations of the bible, at that.
Mingsplosion ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its not really that archaic. If you said "seed" in a sexual context, pretty much everyone would know you mean semen.
Owyn_Merrilin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:38:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They'd know, but they'd probably think you were a little weird for saying it. Just because something is archaic doesn't mean its meaning isn't understood.
AerasGale ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:35:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's just me, but I see "seed" meaning semen in tons of fanfiction. Perhaps it's just that narrow slice of Englishers that use it commonly?
Owyn_Merrilin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much. Written erotica in general uses weird euphemisms that you don't see much elsewhere. Things like referring to a woman's vagina as "her sex." I'd imagine it's even worse when it's written by amateurs. I guess up to a point it makes sense, when writing you usually don't want to use the same word over and over if you can avoid it.
bannana_surgery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one I find most hilarious is "his manhood"
Ninja edit: bonus points for throbbing member in there too.
Modorox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:16:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The wink of her whispering eye turned his manhood into an engorged, throbbing member.
May I have the aforementioned bonus points?
yosol ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:28:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually makes sense... on a kids mind, of course.
NapClub ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:44:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well i mean... technically your dad did have some seed for your mom... though if she ate it you would not have had a brother.
oh__golly ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:34:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psh, everyone knows you can't swallow the seed, it has to go in through your bellybutton!
mittenista ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:53:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always used to believe that, to get the baby out, you just unbuttoned the belly button and plucked it out. Why else would it be called a button if it didn't open things?
oh__golly ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:56:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, if I need a C-section I'm telling my kids that the scar is a zipper.
Guitbass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless she was in a knife fight!
queenb09 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:33:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My preschool class understands pollination and they believe in the seed theory for pregnancy!
BoozeMonster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
#TeachTheControversy
Edit: stupid secret reddit formatting
kneelmortals ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:01:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is adorable.
mskerryedwards ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smart
Khajiit001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You were a crazy little loon, you were.
Crazylittleloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what my dad called me when I was little.
Khajiit001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Awww, that's cute. Sounds like the type of thing I'd call my kid, once I had a kid
magic_beans_talk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The do. Only the seed is a fertilized egg.
Locuxify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is it a seed or an egg?
Weasley_is_our_king1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, that's pretty solid logic coming from a little kid
TheresThatSmellAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the Latin word for seed?
links234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/kidlogic
aab720 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Teachnically they do!
unicornlocostacos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But.. the discount?
Frontdesklady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your logic seems sound to me! ;)
cl4ire_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sex education: C-
Logic and critical thinking: A+
[deleted] ยท 1014 points ยท Posted at 21:25:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked my grandpa when I was a kid and he told me that the semen from the penis goes into the vagina or something of the sort, but he never mentioned sex, so I always thought that the semen came out of the penis on its own and then walked on the floor and found its way in the vagina.
Whizzzel ยท 469 points ยท Posted at 22:12:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That would lead to some awkward dinner parties. "Uh Greg, you want to get a towel or something?"
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:28:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Semi-relevant: Very NSFW
For those in the know, yes, it's Oglaf.
rightnowl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:37:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm telling mistress!"
BlakeBlackheart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. This webcomic is funny as hell! Never heard about it before
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The best part about finding out about it now is that there are now tons of them to go through!
Lirpaslurpa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Day made with this comment
rwsr-xr-x ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:32:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i laughed so hard my cigarette fell out of my mouth
conjugal_visitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like "Quick, get some paper towels!"
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 22:21:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar to what I was told... I used to read a lot as a kid, and found out the whole "sperm+egg = baby" business myself, but not how the sperm gets there in the first place. Was just told "it swims there" and left it at that.
contraigon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. Animal planet taught me the basic equation. I figured out the logistics of it once I reached high school.
SocialRegular ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was roughly my understanding. I thought that sleeping together meant just that: a man and a woman sleep in the same bed. At some point during the night, the pee comes out of the penis and is absorbed by the vagina. This is how I rationalised wetting the bed too.
Faithful_jewel ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:19:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant Oglaf comic?
NSFW: http://oglaf.com/cumsprite/2/
(Sorry about the link, I'm on mobile)
katielady125 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:21:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, except I figured that you had to sleep next to someone of the opposite sex. Sleep and close proximity = baby. But only if you aren't related. Because it knows the difference apparently.
motherpluckin-feisty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like corals spawning. Lol
frogandbanjo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in his day it did! UPHILL BOTH WAYS!
Valdrax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username?
warmongerxd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And once it came out, you would have to use a condom like a net to catch the little fucker before it made its way to the vagina.
justnodalong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:54:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah i thought the male and female get naked and side on opposite sides of a room, and then the male shot at the female and it magically went into her vag :\
MissRockNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:46 on June 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think when I found out about sex, I thought the guy just put it in and then it would go in and out by itself, without any work from either partner--like a hydraulic lift or something.
pmsavenger2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:09:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got a very through sex education from my mother over the course of several conversations. When she asked me if I knew how penises "worked" I said yes because I hoped to speed along an embarrassing conversation. So I thought penises only got hard once a month. Women have periods once a month so that's how it must be for men too.
DirtyOldAussie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to Google "hectocotylus" then. Sort of mashes together that misconception and tentacle porn.
theblahking11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he must have told "sea-men" and not semen !
GarryOwen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I have seen this in an anime.
77ate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ALIEN: Covenant plot spoiler!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents told me the same thing but with Sperm and Eggs. They didn't clarify what they were so I imagined two colored orbs with faces walking around until they found each other then going into the womb.
DemonicLiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could see that happening in a Japanese film.
ReynardVulpini ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually knew a kid who thought the same thing. Chinese sex ed is
sometimesoften less than stellar.covercash ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:08:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So like the 1996 Olympic mascot?
http://olympic-museum.de/mascot/1996/mascot96_7.jpg
WhatsThatSkaSong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are those always so horrible?
to-plant-trees ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reverse Stuart Little? The book version, not the movie.
BurpWallace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stuart Little's mom ate a baby?!
to-plant-trees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, in the original book she got pregnant but gave birth to a fancy-clothed mouse. So not exactly the same I guess, but kind of related?
los_rascacielos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:40:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a little kid and my mom was pregnant with my sister my dad told me she ate a watermelon seed and had a watermelon growing in her stomach
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not related to babies, but when I was little, my mom told me that if I ate the black seeds, I would grow a watermelon in my stomach. I accidentally ate one once and thought I was gonna straight up die.
Cjwithwolves ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also experienced this trauma in my early childhood.
twisted34 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think the number of kids you could have was determined by your testicles. I thought a man and woman would simply be sleeping one night and one of your balls would magically get out and enter the woman and bam, she be preggers. My neighbor had 4 kids so I guess I assumed he had 4 balls when he was younger and none now that he was older?
CatsInSpaceSwag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:22:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the woman got a pill from the doctor.
Cypraea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:51:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought, for whatever reason, that you got yourself pregnant by eating a certain particular variety of sandwich that was unlikely to be chosen for enjoyability. Something like peanut-butter-tuna-with-pickles, on a certain kind of bread.
Like, the real-life equivalent of those videogame cheat codes where you have Lara Croft turn different ways and take her guns out and jump and you level skip or get all the weapons, this was the way of summoning a pregnancy.
__Severus__Snape__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:25:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was convinced that there was a baby in my belly button that would grow as I grew and it would be born once I was old enough. I was about 6 or 7 at this point. As the youngest child, I'd never had the opportunity to ask how babies are made. Thank goodness school taught me that.
JasonDJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just cause youre dad said your mom should've swallowed you.
Dreamcast3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that if you slept in the same bed the woman got pregnant.
JesusGodLeah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was little, my mom got pregnant with my little sister. She explained to me that the baby was growing in her tummy, and when it was time for the baby to be born she had to go to the hospital to get it taken out. So of course 3-year-old me was convinced that my mom had an operation where they unscrewed her head, took the baby out, and put her head back on.
frenchmeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is your little sister Athena?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was young I thought babies came out of the anus. But I went to a Christian school so our sex ed was pretty lacking.
PrunusPersicii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming your father beat you with jumper cables?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was 11 or 12 I thought two people only had to sleep on the same bed one night (but exclusively on a single bed at a resort or hotel) to have a baby XD my guy cuz' who was the same age as me told me about the two people sleeping together. I literally took it to mean sleep as in snore snore together. AHHH I was sooo naive xD
Edit:parents never told us anything even up till now. Well I am asian ahahhaha.
ErionFish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that 2 people would lay in a bed in their underwear, and the woman would get pregnant. I also thought that the big belly was like a swimming pool, with the baby swimming around inside to build up muscle, and once it built up enough muscle it would be strong enough to leave.
alexheberling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was very little, I thought that pregnancy just happened after a couple spent a certain amount of time together. Like osmosis.
ccm596 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that the man was supposed to pee into the woman to get her pregnant.
coinpile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was quite young, I thought there was something special about the wedding kiss that got the girl pregnant. I knew nothing of unmarried parents.
BComplex ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:56:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eating the "baby seed" is more of a form of birthcontrol.
Leanonberger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:39:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my developmental psychology course, we talked about how among many cultures kids will usually assume something had to be "swallowed" in order for there to be a baby. I always thought it was just a cute thing or that parents fed their kids a story similar to that, but hey... you can see where they'd get that idea!
Crazylittleloon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:49:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it had to be eaten because how else did it get in the tummy?
jackrack1721 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:41:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was little, I thought my testicles were my babies that I'd somehow plant in my future wife. Since I was six years old, I knew i'd end up with two kids.
flygirlie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:47:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid I saw my mom take her birth control pill. I asked her what it was because I was curious. Her response (said in a clipped and defensive tone) was, "Well, if I don't want to have babies every year I need to take this pill". So I thought women automatically had babies every year unless they took medicine and then I worried at what age that would magically start happening to me.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that a baby just ripped it out of the mother's stomach Alien style.
Crazylittleloon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I had a somewhat similar way of thinking because both my brother and I were c-section babies (we both tried to hang ourselves with the umbilical cord).
Laureltess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh lord. Over thanksgiving my dad was telling a story about my oldest brother asking where babies come from. So not only does my dad use the word "seed" in his description (ew, dad), but immediately follows it with the innocent question my brother asked: "how does it go to her belly? does the mommy swallow the daddy's seed?"
He was not able to finish the story.
bookwitchx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I explained sex as a magical kind of ritual where daddy plants a seed.(and the discount thing? Amazing)
Crazylittleloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dad was always going on about how he liked discounts, so I figure that that's where I got it from.
bookwitchx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whats there not to like about discounts? i get pumped if someone takes a few cents off my purchase. i THANK them.
Crazylittleloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I'm the same way. Dad has properly instilled that on me.
Dustystt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I told my kids that moms and dads go to a seed store and pick a special seed that will grow the boy or girl you want. Then the dad puts the seed in the moms belly button and when it's time for the baby to come mom poops it out lol. They were 3&4 and I'm not ready to tell the truth yet. My 9 year old knows the truth.
nutseed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just wondering why age means they're not ready to learn about biology?
Dustystt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told at 6 the whole how babies are made. It seriously messed me up and my younger brother too. I feel like a child should get to be a child before learning that information. I think pre puberty (9 or up) is a better time to receive this information.
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
interesting, i wonder if it was how your were told? like it was awkward or something? i was told earlier than i can remember (folks honestly answered all my questions, even about violence and drugs and stuff) ..messed me up just right
Dustystt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom bought a book called "So That's How I Was Born". It was weird at the time to us we were 4&6. We became little perverts after that. Everything was a sex joke or our dolls would have sex, I remember our friends and cousins thought we were strange for it. We became sexually active young me at 13 him around the same age maybe younger. I don't think it was my mom's fault, maybe we were just odd children.
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's not very odd IMO
Fried_Turkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...that's very specific for a child!
Crazylittleloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had severe OCD and a very active imagination.
Puri-Puri_Prisoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is "swallowing" baby seeds, and that sort of thing slows down when you get married...
nutseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a baby seed, a nutseed
flippantphalanges ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that girls came preprogrammed with babies inside them. Basically just remaining dormant until it was time for them to hatch from my girly bits.
What? I remembered hearing something about an egg so that's when the 'hatch' part got added.
icecream4breakfast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha reminds me of my own young beliefs. When I was little, people used to refer to married couples planning on having a baby as "placing an order" for it (closest translation from Spanish). So I obviously thought (because I was brought up as a Catholic) that once married there was a special magical prayer you were given by the priest that you had to say together to "order" your baby from God.
bnhjug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it doesn't hurt to try, right?
Duff_McLaunchpad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do. You just have to plant it in a belly button and pee on it no big.
Bradford_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was younger I thought you stuck your penis in her vagina and peed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the same thing! I think my mom tried to explain it scientifically when I was like 5 and this is how my 5 year old mind interpreted it. :)
mister_flibble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think they took something from the mom and something from the dad and mixed everything together in a vat. Then later, you'd go to this big water tower looking thing full of half formed babies and a hydraulic tube type thing would come out, latch onto the mom's bellybutton, and propel the corresponding not quite baby into her belly.
...I was a weird kid.
mariescurie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw my mom taking these pills from a bottle with a baby on it (probably prenatal vitamins) and then she had my younger brother. I thought for the longest time that you just had to take those pills for 9 months and then you got a baby. I mentioned to my dad when my mom was pregnant with my youngest brother and he decided to have "the talk" with us older 3 kids that night. 4th grade me was horrified.
TheMadHatterOnTea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah so close, but you don't eat the seed!
AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought a married couple held hands and kissed while thinking about wanting a baby and it would spontaneously appear in the mother's uterus...
Henkersjunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like Harvest Moon, where the insamination kit for your lifestock is just sprinkled on them.
Tauposaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats such a Harvest Moon thing to say.
Richard7666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reasonable assumption. A lot of girls do eat the baby seed.
Jazigrrl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents told me babies came from sex which is when a man puts his penis in a woman's vagina and tadpoles shootout and meet an egg inside the woman and combine into a baby.
yourbrofessor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know females had vaginas until 6th grade 2006. Just thought they pissed and shit and had babies through their assholes. Mobb Deep produced a soundtrack for a movie called Waist Deep staring Tyrese Gibson, Megan Good, The Game, the cast was stacked! I downloaded Waist Deep from Limewire and this movie turned out to be a POV porn. When I saw that monkey for the first time I thought, "GOOD GOD. That thing is eating his penis."
Data_Stream ยท 1560 points ยท Posted at 21:05:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been told that my grandmother, when she had her first child, asked the midwife what part of her body the baby came from.
Apparently it was a medical fad back then to put a person under
general anestheticheavy sedative when they're giving birth, a person will continue to give birth even if they're unconscious. So because she was unconscious, she didn't get to see the baby being born and had been worrying throughout her entire pregnancy how the baby was going to get out.That was how little awareness she had, it wasn't really her fault, but she had absolutley no understanding of how sex works.
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I've heard her talk about this a couple of times and she's said "people just didn't talk about dirty stuff back then, and that's not a good thing"
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Now, my dad has a different story.
He grew up on a farm, how babies are made is really common stuff when breeding animals.
Saucyross ยท 694 points ยท Posted at 21:42:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not general anesthesia, that would have resulted in a lot of dead and floppy babies. They did what was called Twilight Sedation which is where they give you enough benzo's/barbiturates that you are basically in a black out. You are conscious and can participate but you will remember nothing.
NeverRainingRoses ยท 330 points ยท Posted at 22:31:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother had that, she used to joke that they could have given her any baby in the hospital and she wouldn't know the difference.
Saucyross ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 22:37:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When babies come out their heads are all fucked up and they are covered in blood, wierd yellow slimy stuff called vernix, and frequently their own shit. They also look like wierd space aliens with heads that are way too big for their bodies and really long torsos compared to their arms and legs. After a day of Labor, both parents usually zonk out while the nurses clean the baby up. I bet they could swap 90% of those babies and nobody would be the wiser, regardless of how conscious you were during delivery.
-Ashen_Shugar- ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:18:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except they don't separate the babies from their mothers in the hospital anymore (at least not where I'm from anyway).
FeatherMD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still do. Babies that need emergency care get rushed to the NICU and the mom goes to recovery
Offspring22 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's an obvious exception....
Arielyssa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:21:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my hospital they typically send the father or a grandparent with the baby to NICU. My son was a C-Section baby. After he was born my husband went with our son to NICU while they stitched me up and sent me to recovery.
c_girl_108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:29 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After they cleaned my daughter up they brought her to the nursery so my midwife could sew up my tear, and you bet your ass my dad followed my daughter and the nurse all the way to the nursery.
sigharewedoneyet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy with his logic.
bo-barkles ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:43:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If anyone took my kids to clean them or whatever, I would have lost it. Each came right to my chest. Third one had to have suction from nicu staff , and even then they only took him 10 feet away in the same room. Was I exhausted? Yup. Was hubs exhausted? Hell ya. Would either of us let that baby leave the room without one of us? Not a chance, there would be broken nurses/doctors.
IWantALargeFarva ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:26:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband knew that if there was any sort of emergency during our kids' births, he was absolutely to stay with the child and not me.
Citruslatifolia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:08:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just said "go with him!" to my husband when they took my son to be checked when he was born. The baby never even really left the room, but I couldn't see him, so I did lose it when they took him away.
kjata ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:39:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that also a French surname? Dang. That's unlucky.
Aden_Sickle ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:56:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
About as unlucky as Buttram and Glasscock.
Yggsdrazl ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:30:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's why grandma isn't black like the rest of us.
NeverRainingRoses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:35:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how she explained my father's height, anyway.
lachamuca ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:04:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom has a completely random middle name since they let my grandma name her while she was still loopy. My grandpa was at home with their 2 older kids, so no one was there to stop her.
It's not a bad middle name or anything. A bit unisex though and not what her middle name was intended to be.
wyvernwy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Segregated hospitals in those days?
iamasecretthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother had it too and made the same joke! Apparently it was also common back then for the husband to not be in the delivery room, so just the unconsciousish mother, hospital staff, and eventual baby.
CrumpetRocket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same with my grandmother, she just woke up with a baby. When I was born she skies me through the hospital line a hark to insure I want swapped.
Bunlapin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There were numerous cases in Spain, decades ago, of nuns stealing babies as they were born. They then would report to the parents that the baby died, while giving the baby into "adoption" to rich people who would pay. As those babies grew, things started to come to light.
GeorgiaMRomero ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:08:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually they used a mixture of morphine and scopolamine. You felt all the pain (no natural childbirth) but supposedly you had retroactive-memory loss of the experience. I say supposedly because that is what they used for my first delivery. I have nightmare memories of screaming while pushing. Awful, barbaric experience. Google says it was no longer used in the 1960's but I had my baby in the mid-1970's. Yeah, aging myself here.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But morphine is a painkiller?
Monimoe ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:45:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is twilight sedation still used? 18 years ago I had a planned pregnancy, but in a routine ultrasound they found out the fetus had no heartbeat. I had a D&C that day and woke up with a pile of wet tissues in my hand. A nurse told me I sobbed through the whole thing, and that I relayed to everyone there my entire infertility struggle. I was appreciative that never felt any pain, but I was mortified...and worried for years that the memory would "come back."
Saucyross ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:54:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still used for a lot of procedures, just not births. It may have been used for your D+C. I am sorry about your loss.
PlymouthSea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen it used for knee arthroscopy. Muscle disease with dysphagia and aspiration was a factor there. Had to intubate regardless so went with a really deep twilight.
iamaravis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had it for an upper endoscopy a few months back.
AOEUD ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:11:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So... she was roofied?
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Essentially. It also used to be standard practice to strap women down to their beds while they delivered.
mechapoitier ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:23:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had this when I got my wisdom teeth removed.
My memory timeline is like this:
Day 1: I'm in the chair, they inject me with something and (if I recall correctly) also give me gas.
Day 2: Roughly 24 hours later I "wake up" which is to say I start having memories again. That entire day is just gone, which is kinda mind blowing to me. Apparently I was conscious the entire procedure. My dad drove me home.
LolaZe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf did they give you!? I was out for 45 min for mine and totally awake 5 min after the procedure was done. Was walking around, texting friends, and no memory loss except the actual procedure.
mylifeisprettyplain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my experience! But I don't think they gave me anything unusual--I probably fainted. I vaguely remembered walking to the car and then I woke up in bed at home the next day.
maquila ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like at the dentist when getting surgery
CajunTisha ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:37:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My MIL called this stuff "joy juice" lol
Silly__Rabbit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:32:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where the fuck was that when I was giving birth? Jesus, I would have done a lot of things I wouldn't be proud of for that type of sedation...
Just kidding, I had twilight sedation when I got my wisdom teeth out, but they wouldn't give me anything (including Tylenol) until I started heaving with every contraction.
ObsoleteHodgepodge ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could have used some of that Twilight bliss when I was giving birth. :/
Propyl_People_Ether ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:42:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sparkly vampire jokes in 3...2...1...
makocez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you get a colonoscopy you can have twilight bliss. I had one and they made me so high I only remember the first few minutes, the rest is black out
entitude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a nod to me.
duffman13jws ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:56:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That can't be right - they had to put my wife under general to have our son because of an issue where she couldn't get and epidural and had to have a c-section. He came out just fine. This was in 2015 btw.
Rock_Me-Amadeus ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:38:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
C-section, yes. Vaginal birth? No
Saucyross ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:35:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The General Anesthesia gets to the baby and can cause them to be born floppy. It can make it take longer for them to take their first gasp which can be dangerous when seconds = brain cells. I have been at c-section where the mom has to go under general for one reason or the other. The OB/GYN does the procedure much faster and their is almost always a pediatrician present for a resuscitation. Vaginal birth takes too long. The general anesthesia would most likely kill the baby.
duffman13jws ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:51:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. It did look like my wife's OB was basically trying to rip the baby out of her with the speed that she delivered him with.
Saucyross ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:57:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OB's go into beast mode as soon as the general anesthesia takes effect. They can get from skin to baby out in seconds when they need to.
LolaZe ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With general they have 90 seconds after it's administered to cut the cord before it impacts the baby. Friend had to go under general for her c-section and this is the info we were told pre surgery.
Data_Stream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see, allright, thanks for the info!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my Friday nights.
Unicorn_Tea_Party ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Essentially if they can't block the pain, they're going to block you remembering it.
FeatherMD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That shits serious. I got knocked out for my delivery and thought my Dr was a bartender. Kept asking for a beer, don't remember any of it.
CharlesAzalea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ever watched the documentary The Business of Being Born? It briefly mentions twilight sedation and that shits crazy. They strap the women down with wool so that it doesn't leave marks on the skin in order to not raise any suspicion but the women are conscious and screaming and thrashing around during birth but you wake up not remembering any of it.
Ms_ChokelyCarmichael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom had my older sister and brother in 1968 and 1970 respectively. She had Twilight sedation with both deliveries and could not remember anything about either of them. All she remembered was being handed her newborns at the end.
as_above_so_below ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Friday nights
Jinxyfaggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do doctors still do that? I was put under twilight sedation for my last surgery. I don't remember any of it and My doctor said I was nice and calm waking up. The last thing I remember was being wheeled into a room and asking "why the fuck are there so many people?" If I was still "there" but unable to remember it, is there a chance I just kept talking? I like to talk.
Plague_of_crocus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dead and floppy? That's the worst kind!
bedroom_fascist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:21:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of like half the chicks at Coachella?
WhimsyUU ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:46:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so sad. Imagine how traumatizing sex was for women who weren't allowed to know about their own bodies.
Data_Stream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it wasn't a traumatizing relationship, and in fact I think that's what my grandma is getting at when she talks about it - back then it was entirely normal for a woman to learn how babies are made after one has been made.
And not in some deliberate manner, but because it was just dirty to talk about sex back then.
altervista ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's dirty about the miracle of life beginning? Man the puritans really did a fucking number on the country even 300 years later
N8719 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:40:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My great-grandmother was in a similar situation. Story goes that she asked her friends how the baby gets out, was so shocked and upset she miscarried.
MrStripes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any particular reason why they don't do that anymore? It seems like the pain of childbirth isn't really something that I'd want to remember
Data_Stream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, guess I'm not exactly the right person to ask about it, but I think there's some sentiment that this denies a person one of the most basic and universal human experiences of childbirth. Perhaps something wrong with making the most human thing there could be into something artificial.
Philosophical reasons aside, it isn't safe for the mother or the baby.
meglet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queen Victoria gave birth knocked out on chloroform.
Dinner_in_a_pumpkin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Grandmother was given ETHER during her first childbirth in the late 1940's in Oregon. She was also prescribed weight loss pills during her fifth pregnancy in the mid 1950's. It was essentially meth.
CarelesslyFabulous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait...but...I feel pretty certain she would FEEL where that baby came from, don't you?!
Data_Stream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I don't know, I gather she was pretty doped up on sedatives at the time.
siovannie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother was like that too. I was told she only found out where babies come from when she was pregnant with her first child. People just didn't talk about it back then, and my grandmother didn't really have a healthy childhood so that didn't help either.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Used to be called "twilight birth."
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A person definitely does not continue to give birth while they are unconscious. Did you think the fetus punched its way out of the cervix and vagina?
Data_Stream ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some other users have given me some more info about the subject - they're not entirely unconscious, and birth is performed with medical tools
http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth/twilight-sleep/
cornicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of that fry and Laurie sketch about where babies come from https://youtu.be/usF6YK7SLBA
justnodalong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah same, my mom had NO IDEA where the baby will get out, she thought she would throw it up or something, her parents were really strict and never even mentioned it. My dad on the other hand...well, his mom was really trashy so I imagine he saw it from an early age. :\
TheJester73 ยท 762 points ยท Posted at 20:19:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of one of them bathroom fact books, where a rural couple were having a hard time conceiving a child, and after several visits, the GP realized they were having anal sex..........once they educated the couple, they were able to have a child.....
el_muerte17 ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 20:30:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I read a similar one where they thought the penis went in the belly button...
ChrysW ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 23:21:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard about this irl. Girl was a nursing student and had to get a physical and blood work before going into clinical work. She turns up pregnant and told the program people it was a mistake because "he never touched my belly button." Nursing teachers had to give her The Talk. I'm hoping she didn't make it through the program unless she proved herself worthy because wow...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where was this?
ChrysW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Georgia is all I can give you now that I work here too. I was young then but I'm going to say maybe 10 years ago now? My mom would remember better since she was the program's secretary handling the paperwork for the tests and was probably there when this happened.
frogger2504 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why is it that there's no other species that struggles with this? No other species has any misconceptions about how to fuck except dumbass humans.
FreshBoyChris ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:02:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a lot of videos out there of animals humping inanimate objects ...
False798 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:15:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbf, there's a lot of videos out there of humans humping inanimate objects
IcedJack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an entire genre of porn
Vaadwaur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Genres! Plural!
weretomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the correct plural in French is geฬndreฬilloฬuxeฬs ;p
Vaadwaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL!
bannana_surgery ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:51:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom has horses and they definitely don't know how right away. Lots of humping the side of the leg and whatnot. And by side of the leg, I mean they're perpendicular to the other horse.
Tzipity ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:43:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch some zebras at the zoo getting frisky in the rain. Witnessed the perpendicular thing you mention. Then the male zebra decided to give it another go, mounted another male. No babies were made in the zebra exhibit that day. Or any other.
littlewoolie ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 23:06:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the one where the husband's tiny penis had been pentrating his wife's urethra for several decades until she finally went to the doctors in her 80s and discovered she's still a virgin.
kdoodlethug ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:00:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This just has to be a made up story. It's hard enough to find the urethra to put in a foley, let alone shove a dick in there. Besides, when you're lining everything up I find it highly unlikely that the dick wouldn't just slip into the obviously much bigger and more forgiving opening.
EmmaLuxombourg ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Certain congenital malformations (such as Mรผllerian agenesis) result in there not being a vaginal opening, combine that with poor sex education and persistence, and this happens. 26 documented cases of people unknowingly engaging in urethral intercourse as of 2014, according to wiki.
kdoodlethug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:24:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm, interesting. Thank you for the information! I will amend my statement then. I am willing to bet that the version most people have heard is not true, because it usually ends with the couple happily going on to have normal sex and successfully making babies.
mglyptostroboides ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not an expert on urban legends, but I'm gonna give this one a 96% chance of being one.
But no, really, I've heard far too many doctors and nurses recount it from a first or second hand perspective. It's just too crazy to be that common.
ywu ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, I heard of that and thought how small that must be.
TeHNeutral ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:34:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I upvoted everything
littlewoolie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
bedroom_fascist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hung_like_chopstick
HansumJack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:03:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the couple that weren't having sex at all. They just thought you had to be married and sleep in the same bed.
Sam-Gunn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that was a dumb blonde joke...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
read 1 where they were using the urethra
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard from one of my teachers in high school about an old couple that had been having sex through the woman's urethra for their entire 40+ year relationship. They just thought it was supposed to hurt the first few times, and that she was infertile.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 23:50:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother was a medic for the Army in Afghanistan, and they had a clinic where the locals could come in for basic medicine. A couple came in unable to conceive. Husband really wanted kids, and being rural Afghanistan, it was clearly the wife's fault. She had evidence of severe beatings over the years of marriage; multiple broken ribs, multiple broken bones, broken nose, permanent bruising around the eyes, obviously because she refused to procreate. A quick gyno exam revealed intact hymen, then a rundown of marital coitus revealed years of anal sex. After a brief sex-ed primer, the husband, through the interpreter, said "but that's where the pee comes out!" with a disgusted look on his face. My brother never saw them again.
timesuck897 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 23:59:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He thought the pee hole was gross, but was fine with the poop hole. Or did he not think that women poop?
loverofaltmedicine ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:57:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that made me very sad. Your username did not check out this time.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:55:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, he told me that story with a forced laugh that I have only heard from people who have been to war.
mittenista ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes me so sad. I bet the poor woman didn't get so much as an apology for those beatings. Hopefully he didn't take his subsequent embarrassment out on her as well.
And, of course, he's still wrong. Women don't urinate through their vagina
TheJester73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i, uh, er, wow, never expected half of these responses. Jesus christ...
ReynardVulpini ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:20:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even leaving aside the fact that pee doesn't come out of the vagina.... Pee does come out of the penis. I just... jesus.
yosol ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 20:25:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my years of experience, I have never heard anything similar to that story. This made me laugh, hard. Thank you for starting my Monday off with a laugh.
Btsyd97 ยท 176 points ยท Posted at 22:32:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worse, a Chinese couple weren't getting pregnant after 7 years of marriage so their concerned parents sent them to a doctor and it turns out the wife was still a virgin. They were just hugging each other to sleep (how magical). The doctor prescribed them porn.
JDameekoh ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 23:16:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(Hugs wife) "you like that, you fucking retard?"
sabasco_tauce ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"hug me from behind like the dirty whore I am"
Itsnotmeitsyouworld ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 00:00:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have an upvote. I got the reference (you fucking retard) and yes i lol'd
skittymcbatman ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:04:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the one hand, awwwww <3
On the other hand, so glad I don't live in that universe.
pumpkinrum ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:21:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds really sweet.
loverofaltmedicine ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:55:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that is so beautiful... haha
timesuck897 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The most unbelievable thing about that story is the husband has never watched porn before.
Daxx22 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:36:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if it was even semi-rural China. I also remember reading this quite awhile ago, this dates back to almost before the Internet was around.
SilasX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then later, at the pharmacy: "You realize .. you don't need a prescription for ... this ...?"
(Actually happened to me, when the doc wrote -- on Rx paper -- a "prescription" for an OTC drug. /facepalm)
FireLucid ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:17:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was the Japanese couple who didn't know what sex was...
norwegianwiking ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:49:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the same from a medic doing women's clinics in Afghanistan. Female Engagement Team had to do some delicate sex-ed on husband.
unknownpoltroon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:54:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read an account years back in a sex ed book from the fifties where the couple had managed to use the wife's urethra instead of the actual vagina for sex. Evidently it hurt at first, but it stretched enough. After some instruction, they were able to have a kid.
Gary_Where_Are_You ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading that and wondering how in the hell the husband was able to get his dick all up in her urethra. And she was able to take the pain.
That had to be...embarrassing, to say the least.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How... why.... ow...
unknownpoltroon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nature finds a way? Sometimes its the wrong way, however.....
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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unknownpoltroon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youre new around this here internet, arent you?
https://www.reddit.com/r/peehole/
Squigglystuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should not have clicked!
TimeWarden17 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:25:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of a news story a few years ago where they were accidentally having sex in here urethra for the entirety of their marriage at least like ten years. They only found out when they went to a fertility doctor and they looked at the woman. "Yeah your urethra is stretched to an ungodly point." Oops.
Sam-Gunn ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:52:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It burns and I keep getting all these yeast infections..."
I mean, either her husband was one of the smallest people in the world, or that poor poor woman....
pumpkinrum ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:22:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the hell do they even get it in to begin with? Like, did they stretch it with fingers first?
loverofaltmedicine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, I cannot imagine how that's even possible...
duffman13jws ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a navy doc who was serving in Afghanistan who had to educate a few locals on the Anal thing.
ExquisiteLIGHT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you make your ellipses so long? And use them so frequently?
Sorry. I'm not trying to make fun of you. I see people do this sometimes and I don't understand.
TheJester73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not the first to point out, (i'm old I guess) some even stated they read it as someone being"out of breath", and why do I not use commas instead. Best way to describe it, I'm typing how it's flowing to my fingers, if I am using time to collect a thought, I tend to hit the "." , while I type. :( It can also work as a dramatic pause? Call it a signature?
I know. I'm sorry........
now I feel awkward...........
ExquisiteLIGHT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I know you're kidding but don't be sorry! I've seen others use it that way and was curious about the thought process. You do you.
entrepreneurofcool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was in one of the Darwin Awards books as an honourable mention. Might have been written about elsewhere too, though.
klatnyelox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uncle John's Bathroom Reader!
CitJournalist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about a 75yo childless woman who had 52 years of sex in the urethra instead of the vagina....
http://imgur.com/r/cringepics/v6kb9
TheJester73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:53:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
okay wtf....
as_above_so_below ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That man gets it.
TheRealPainsaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:41:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why we need to put a stop to sex ed immediately.
PirateJazz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Penthouse Forum?
ZuperBros ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother told me of someone she met that once they got married they could not conceive a child for 5 years, turns out that the male had not even touched the female since she was still a virgin.
TheJester73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there are no words.......
He_Who_Writes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:40:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the doctor who figured out that the elderly woman with a UTI had been having sex through her urethra all her life, which is why she constantly had UTI's and never had children.
konkeydong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit?
Tearsforfearsforever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't find it right now, but I heard about a Dr that has an elderly couple that never was able to conceive. She also had a history of bladder infections and UTIs. Come to find out, after a thorough screening, which apparently had never been done correctly, they were having sex - in her urethra! She was still technically a virgin bc she had an intact hymen. My guess is she never used tampons.
Three_Headed_Monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard a similar one where the man was penetrating her urethra instead of her vagina. Neither knew that a woman has two holes in the front. Because of that sex was always painful for her and she had UTIs her whole life.
LessConspicuous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's in Catch 22
BflatPenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish doctors could decline to educate them.
aab720 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a date rape drug?
Duke_Newcombe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:55:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The husband was well aware of this, and had his scheme of going without kids ruined, I guarantee it...
Konker101 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude was busting in her butt.
lol
sovn_tri_tri ยท 3545 points ยท Posted at 20:50:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CAN I BE.. PREGANANANT?
cheese198 ยท 1813 points ยท Posted at 21:13:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can u get pregante
cheese198 ยท 1418 points ยท Posted at 21:14:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dangerops prangent sex? will it hurt baby top of his head?
GeebusNZ ยท 1197 points ยท Posted at 23:16:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If a women has starch masks on her body does that mean she has been pargnet before?
exportmagic ยท 272 points ยท Posted at 23:28:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'm pretnet with my 14th child...
AWildEnglishman ยท 313 points ยท Posted at 23:35:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GIRLFREN AINT HAD PERIOD SINCE SHE GOT PREGAT
cleeder ยท 235 points ยท Posted at 23:38:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do I know if I'M prengan?
Ashleymegan ยท 194 points ยท Posted at 00:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I pegnat?
TiGeeeRRR ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 00:14:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do you have starch masks?
jblank66 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:33:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you burn a Luigi Board?
dpfw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How to act shy so people will think you are cool and you will be the best ahhhhhhhhh
Carlulua ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do I have to make my own wedgie or canI buy one from a witch or vegan?
theresnoquestion ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gregnant.
PANDASRCUTE ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
quiet_kinks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:54:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the best time to sex to be come pregnart
incipit-satan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I may be pregernet?
VioletVendetta06 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:22:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the funniest one
Tini_531 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:27:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The accent on that one had me in tears.
Geta211 ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 00:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That video never fails to make me laugh
KawaiiTimes ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:45:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just reading the comments referencing the video is making me laugh. I can hear his voice in my head!
ActionScripter9109 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:04:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can u burn a luigi board?
Rae_Starr ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:59:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even know how he pronounced half of it. Cracks me up.
Tzipity ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely the best part as his time gradually sounds more and more outraged as the video goes on- Pregert? Pergan? PRATNAT? PRAGNATE? PERGNANANT?
Tojin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, what video is this? It sounds hilarious!
Geta211 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:17:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This video bud https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg
WintersbaneGDX ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 23:36:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Period. Question mark.
ActionScripter9109 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:04:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My circle is nomal, but yet I still don't get peegnant. Wat can I use? Period question mark.
mrballsack3445 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*question mask
dragoongirl1990 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 00:04:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex-husband and I lost our virginity together. The asshole once accused me of having had an abortion because 'of that line on your vagina'. He was referring to the top of my clitoris.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:50:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dragoongirl1990 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't. Every fucking time I told him about what a clot was and where it was and how it worked, he refused to listen and I would have to tell him again and again and again. The few times he actually touched me in the beginning, he was always off to the side. Like in my leg crease. I would sometimes gently guide his hand to the right place but... He always drifted back to the wrong spot. Tore my skin a lot doing that. Then stopped touching me altogether.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dragoongirl1990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Yeah. Idk about that one. I told him even if I'd had one then any scarring would be on the inside.
Tzipity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:40:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes. I understand why he's an ex.
Also I'm so baffled by what the hell he thought he was doing way over at your leg crease. Sheesh.
dragoongirl1990 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was a fucking moron, that's why. He completely didn't give a shit about me one iota. He still wanted to have sex occasionally but only when I was asleep and completely closed and he would jam himself into me painfully and tore me open. I was so starved for sex I never said no but he knew it was the only time I wasn't ready or in the mood, so that's when he chose, because it was the closest he could get to forcing me. I would beg him for it and he would refuse, and then make me in the middle of my much needed sleep. He was a narcissistic sociopath who beat me and verbally abused me nonstop. The last time he got me off was in February of 2009. We were together for another 3 ยฝ years before I left his hole.
Tzipity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm truly sorry this happened to you. Guy is scum of the earth from all you've said. I'm glad you're now free of him.
gracefulwing ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:26:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like.. The hood?
dragoongirl1990 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:09:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the skinny ridge before it... bulbs out.
gracefulwing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh okay, I think I get what you mean
cheese198 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:56:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
astralellie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ghost!!! Ghost!!! Ghost!!!.?
LegendaryGoji ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:15:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...now I'm curious to see if starch masks are a thing.
KawaiiTimes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:46:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're really hot this season.
perkam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the GOLDEN one xD
PlasticGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's supposed to be ".?" lol.
GeebusNZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got all the spelling mistakes and missed the punctuation one.
PlasticGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:15:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate the effort though.
ATAlum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best post of the day.
AndyGHK ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:27:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I be pergert?
nutseed ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:29:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
have legit considered making a hoodie with bold italics on it reading:
Dangerops prangent sex?
Kayestofkays ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:54:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG this just reminded me - back when I was in high school (mid-late 90s) someone asked this during the sex education portion of the Parenting class i took..."If you have sex with a girl who is pregnant, will you, like, poke the baby's head?". And he wasn't being a smart ass either, it was a genuine question. It was kind of sad, the rest of the class laughed at him, but I just felt bad that he truly didn't know.
nutseed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:28:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not an unreasonable question at all
Toezap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone asked that in my little sister's class too, only they asked if it would "puncture" the baby. lol
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:29:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EShUeudtaFg
Funniest shit I've ever seen. ๐๐
PlasticGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:03:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love seeing this show up in a thread.
arcsine ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 21:33:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you burn a Luigi board.
PM_ME_BIRDS_OF_PREY ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:42:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can a 9yearold get pregnen?
MajorNoodles ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:55:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I get prengt if he had a comdom on?
lylesmif ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:24:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are babby formed?
Not_Cleaver ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:06:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How girl get pragnent?
sabasco_tauce ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:06:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
am I PREGANANANT?
ptgkbgte ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:27:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a pregunto.
jayteeayy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how is babby formed
I_COULD_say ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Si, mucho pregante.
zombierobotvampire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is babby formed?
spazmodial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is babby formed?
77ate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll pick up some pregante sauce if you get the chips.
peanutnozone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how is babby formed?
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
starts salsa dancing
rhonage ยท 599 points ยท Posted at 21:21:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My god, that video had me in tears.
ieradeous ยท 700 points ยท Posted at 21:38:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen the sequel? https://youtu.be/15nNY7uofNw
madpoontang ยท 296 points ยท Posted at 22:08:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Witch or vegan. Dead.
bgzlvsdmb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
R.I.P. In Peace
Sir_Boldrat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u can still spak with them as ghost thru Luigi.
Racer51296 ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 22:35:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quiche Board.
BlatantConservative ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:09:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I forgot how to actually spell ouigi board. Fuck.
SurprisedPotato ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 22:25:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ouija
Oui = 'yes' in French
Ja = 'yes' in German
kjata ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 22:37:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yet it's somehow pronounced "weegee". Go figure.
pumpkinrum ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:28:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it was pronounced just the way it's spelled. Though wee is kinda how oui is pronounced I uh.. guess.
kjata ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:40:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been pronouncing it "wee jah" too, but I hear "weegee" a lot. I don't know what it is about some words that just plain shuts down people's ability to process phonetic pronunciation, but that seems to be one of them.
ConfusingDalek ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:28:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is that english doesn't give a fuck about consistent phonetics.
kjata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't think of any other case where the "ja" cluster is ever pronounced "jee", though.
ConfusingDalek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. English don't care
Mgorkrumbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah yeah, we get it
nliausacmmv ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:29:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ghost!!!!!! Ghost!!!!!! Ghost!!!!!.?
CoffeeAndCigars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Period Question-mark
ukulelej ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:24:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where's the first one?
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShUeudtaFg
cleeder ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:44:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the prequel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls3qDfTP0mw
Scalpels ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:01:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of Your Grammar Sucks.
contraigon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:59:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone on YouTube actually speak English? Literally everyone uses YouTube, so what is wrong with the comments section?
skyrimisagood ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:38:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Youtube has a young audience and an international audience. Obviously there are going to be a lot of kids who don't have English as a first language and in my opinion they shouldn't be mocked for it. I mean sure there's probably a couple of dumb English speakers with bad spelling in there too but you can't know for sure.
Let's be fair, English spelling doesn't make a lot of sense.
contraigon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen YouTube's comments? It's not like they're spelling words phonetically. The comments are riddled with incomprehensible errors that make me wonder how their fingers even ended up on those keys, and most of them are from Americans or other English speaking nations! And it's not just the grammar, it's also the content. Half of all YouTube comments are bashing any given minority and the other half are "like this if yoeur wachting in 20XX." It's just baffling to me.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BICHES
MikoSqz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of Adam Buxton on Bug.
pumpkinrum ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:25:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hilarious. Poor Luigi.
Ulti ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:49:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I had to do was read the video title again, and I'm sitting here practically in tears at my desk. Fuck, this is good.
Turtlelephant ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:58:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WEGA BORAD
rhonage ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:57:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, thank you!
nicqui ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:04:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this!
Teacherofcats625 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:45:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just made my day.
enolaa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious, almost died.
welalrightthen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So funny, thanks for this!
TofuTuesday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am vegan. Can confirm; I shit out Luigi boards.
skywreckdemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amazing.
KypDurron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing "vegan" is supposed to be Wiccan?
swaqq_overflow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the guy narrating it the guy from Dose of Buckley?
bkkgnar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this
p_iynx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know if that's the actual creator? I want to watch more of his videos, they cheer me up.
artemislt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Help pls!
panthera213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, but still not as funny as "can u get pregante!"
ForeSet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking love J.T. som solid videos
KassellTheArgonian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on a public bus and I'm dying from "Luigi boards"
DemandsBattletoads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw it once but I can't remember the channel. Some British guy. Anyone have the link?
rhonage ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:26:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here you go. Hope that's it (I'm at work so can't hear sound).
Also paging /u/Cobbleking32486.
TryingFirstTime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never seen this before. I'm crying laughing. Thank you reddit stranger.
rhonage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:52:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to have improved your day!
Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks.
quiet_kinks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is a L&D nurse. The moment I saw the video, I sent it to her. She didn't laugh, she sighed sadly...
Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
usernumber36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
link?
PM-me-your-downvotes ยท 661 points ยท Posted at 21:06:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Starch marks....wait....starch MASKS
[deleted] ยท 273 points ยท Posted at 21:20:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dangerops of sex? Will hurt baby top of its head?
PM-me-your-downvotes ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 21:28:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
38 + 2 weeks = pregnate?
[deleted] ยท 362 points ยท Posted at 21:45:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
am i... gregnant?
lumpyspacejams ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:54:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can u get pregante
Lawman0100 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:18:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can u down a 20 foot waterslide pegnat?
Spartancoolcody ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:53:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'm pretnet with my 14th child?
freshjiive ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:53:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the best time to sex to be come pregnart?
CurlyAndQuote ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:58:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you burn a Luigi board?
uzes_lightning ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:42:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I eggplant?
brightdeadlights ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
probably.
panthera213 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is pregnant and her husband's name is Greg. I keep referring to her as being gregnant. :D
bunnicula_darklady ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:26:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old Greg?
CatsInSpaceSwag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can u get pregante
stolenfires ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best response I ever saw is: Only Rose Quartz has ever been Gregnant.
__Severus__Snape__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shut up greg
PandaLovingLion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You ever drink babies from a shoe?
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can u get pregante ?
Turtlelephant ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:23:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My circle is nomal, but i still dont get peegnant
DeaJaye ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:51:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just in case anybody hasn't seen this glorious reading of yahoo questions
https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg
SillyFlyGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
jot fool can't malt starch MASKS!
liz1065 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:55 on February 4, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen the video multiple times and just figured out what they were asking when I read your comment.
BEERD0UGH ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 21:22:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I pregnart?
5213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ya know, at least the 'R' and the 'T' are right next to each other. Some of those others... yeesh
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:50:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I gregnant?
earnedmystripes ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:33:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is babby formed?
sp0rk_ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:05:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they need to do way instain mother>
CyberDagger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:24:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
who killed their babby
NONEOFTHISISCANON ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:42:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because these babbys cant frigth back?
CyberDagger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was on the news this mroing
NONEOFTHISISCANON ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a mother in ar who had kill her three kids
NewCometCourse ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:06:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
girlfriend aint had period since she got pregat?
Wheredoesthetoastgo2 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:35:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do I know if I'm prengan?
Byizo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:24:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pergert, pergnant, pugent?
gbeckwith ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:10:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gregnant?
Gear_ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:33:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't thank you enough for reminding me that that hilarious and slightly soul-tearing video exists.
Sam-Gunn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:54:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is babby formed?
Dandellionprincess ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:36:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I... G R E G N A N T ?
Godloseslaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm retarded?
eldayvo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lemme see.... pee on this stick for me.
dimebanez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is babby formed?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is babby formed?
Midnightviolette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck I love this video so much
fuckitx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could I be parganate?
Dreamcast3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how is prangent formed
or8cle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I showed this video to my husband as my way of announcing that I was legit pergnat
A1ucantCme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can u bleed while pergert?
Innerouterself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Greatest ever.
Cwazywazy14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I DECLARE PREGNANCY
That1RyGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Luigi board says I cud be pargarnant
Frashizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I be gregnant?
77ate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The correct nomenclature would be "impregmatized".
Slappah_Dah_Bass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can u get.....PREGANTE!?
jaxson25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can oo get...Pregantรฉ
ryulaaswife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I get preganante frum precum!
ProfMcGonaGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I G-d I forgot about the beauty of that video until just now. Thanks for the reminder!!!
SuperSulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is that . . . pregnancy for ants?
jca5052 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow never saw this video before. So funny!
cool12y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/yahooanswers is leaking
rep_movsd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is babby form?
quiet_kinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You win the internet.
WTXRed ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
COULD I BE.......BANANA!?
zero_dgz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:23:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if your spoon is too big.
[deleted] ยท 1456 points ยท Posted at 18:30:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Leebo2D ยท 917 points ยท Posted at 19:26:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sex education? What's that? You mean the devil that takes you if you fancy someone?
[deleted] ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 20:30:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mightbebrucewillis ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 20:36:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He does if you fancy goats.
EmbertheUnusual ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 20:42:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do the goats have to be fancy?/s
[deleted] ยท 159 points ยท Posted at 20:44:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now when have you seen a goat that ISN'T fancy?
MadBotanist ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:11:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the State Fair once. It looked bored.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:19:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But wasn't it wearing a fancy ribbon?
MadBotanist ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:23:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. It was just a goat in a pen. Like "this is what a goat looks like in case you've never seen one. Corn dogs are that way"
ratshack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"which way to the corn goats?"
Jamaican_Dynamite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/MadBotanist, the hero that we needed...
fragglecock3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next goat i get is getting the name Corn Dog
PrincessSnowy_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is the goat wearing the tie at the top of his neck or the bottom?
FionaTheHuman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might be biased because you love goats.
SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a goat that was a flower once. Does that count?
Future_Jared ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My D&D DM in high school created a blue mage (sex wizard) with a goat familiar. We decided to name him Chupacabra
Graz13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate effing goats
rob_matt ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:46:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks the reason chupacabras went extinct actually. They only eat goats that wear monocles.
Cpt_Matt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't rob me.
Hofenstein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me think of a Reba McIntyre song...
LivingLegend69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit Erdogan is in trouble....
genmischief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well played.
muchasgaseous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed far too hard at this. Thank you.
44elite444 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:11:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP ISIS
Cowboywizzard ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:38:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do kiwis have to do with this?
drdeadringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Chupacabra sex.
scotty3281 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:22:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Texas that is abstinence only. Then they wonder why there was a hug STD out break at one of the high schools and Texas Tech is known for having a unique strain of a certain STD.
bedroom_fascist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which one?
kerryb1989 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:13 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG this has me rolling hahaha
hellogoawaynow ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:26:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This girl I used to babysit got pregnant when she started college, but didn't know she was pregnant until 30 minutes before the baby came. She came from a pretty strict, religious household and went to private school
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was she rather large? A 9 month pregnancy would make her gut massive.
hellogoawaynow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She wasn't skinny but wasn't overweight either. Just an average sized girl. That's why it was so odd to me!
derbermer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:59:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think we want these people to breed
glitter1326 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:04:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only sex education I receive in my public high school in Oklahoma was a PowerPoint presentation on STDs/STIs. After showing 20 pictures of mangled dicks dripping with weird liquids and wart covered vaginas it ended with a slide that said "how do you prevent these diseases? ABSTINENCE" like yeah, abstinence is 100% effective at avoiding STDs but you just showed a bunch of children pictures of fucked up genitalia and it's against to school policy to even mention condoms??
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:14:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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glitter1326 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed.
fraxert ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:36:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even just the talk would have fixed this problem right up.
YourMomSaidHi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:37:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not a failure of the education system. This is a parenting failure
bedroom_fascist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:26:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or perhaps in their minds, a success?
Rule-30 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sad upvote, my parent's plan was to wait to give me "the talk" when I got married. They also didn't warn me I'd start bleeding from my vagina once every month, I had to ask my best friend's mom about it.
gardenawe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never got the talk from my mother . She had a subscription to a parenting and pregnancy magazine that (at the time , not sure if that's still the case ) had pretty graphic pictures of women giving birth , a Q and A section and a child development at different ages part . I learnt to read with these magazines . I guess my mother figured I could handle colour picture of babies being born ( I did just fine , no trauma to 5 year old me )
IcedJack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man. There's plenty of blame to spread around, so I petition that it'd both educational and parental negligence.
BryanDGuy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is an advanced form of stupid. I doubt education would even change that.
Snuffy1717 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eurgh... Explain that to my principal who throws a shit-fit every time I answer kids' questions in class...
LeftHookGary ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:32:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But even without this how can you not know this is basic biology not taught in high school?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:36:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about from conversations with friends. This should just be common knowledge.
Vandechoz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even if it were widespread, it wouldn't reach rural Mexico
caRp_stickin ยท 209 points ยท Posted at 21:08:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Muy embarazada
TammyK ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:53:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
La Catrina!
calliope720 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way. Did you have to watch that series in class, too?
Noisetorm_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:21:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ella es pendeja
caRp_stickin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I don't really 'do' Spanish. I'll just mosey on over to Google translate....
Edit: hehehe
Noisetorm_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:54:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donde esta la biblioteca?
WallabyRoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah..... when you find it go to 176 in the stacks.
Solkre ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 21:16:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does she think when cats have kittens the parents are married? Dogs? Birds? Bees?
yosol ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:19:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It never occurred to me to ask that. That's actually a really good example. What I do remember is that, in that community, when they saw dogs having sex they would say something like: "they're stuck together" and I never asked if it occurred to them that they were having sex.
lotissement ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:20:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you?
False798 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...This feels oddly familiar. Where is this from?
RoccoRollo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Simpsons
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:55:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are to small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee however, flies anyway, because bees don't care what humans think is impossible.
cacheforte ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the case. That only applies to things with fixed wings, which bees do not have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee#Flight
Milo359 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHOOSH
leyebrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of children believe that all animals are monogamous like humans.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed uncontrollably. Wow! You are hilarious. I've never laughed so hard. Wtfff๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
sbvrtnrmlty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beads?
addkell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see someone who has never been invited to a bee wedding. They are magnificent. The bride is just buzzing with joy.
Tgunner192 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:11:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Old Soldier here. Worked on a joint mission with a reservist. She was 17ish, from a real conservative family. She really didn't know how a man gets a woman pregnant. She understood the basics-man penetrates woman-egg gets fertilized. But how could something so floppy penetrate such a tight orifice? Did the sperm come out by itself or did a man have to pee a bit while inside her. If she was trolling me she deserves an academy award. She was quiet during duty hours and didn't hang out with anyone after hours. When she brought the subject up, she appeared legit embarrassed and displayed anxiety about it. For those wondering-no, I did not explain or demonstrate anything to her. I brought her to a female senior NCO I knew, figured it was more appropriate if she explained it.
yosol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did this happen?
Tgunner192 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Camp Carroll, Korea, 1992
Castun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've also worked with quite a few people that are young and incredibly sheltered. Home-schooled and from a rural area and all. It's almost sad how much is hidden from them with the intent that they can't hurt themselves, meanwhile it is often that fact which causes problems.
kifferella ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:44:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In a very small town I spent a year of my childhood in (we moved a lot) there was a similar case where a 12 or 13yo was astounded she was pregnant because she wasn't even married! You grow up, you get married, you have babies, right?
When sex and its relationship to babies was explained to her she said, "That!? All my uncles and cousins have been doing THAT to me for years!".
yosol ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:45:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit... this went from 0 to 100 in seconds.
1womAn2womEn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:57:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The story starts with a 12 year old being pregnant....I wouldn't exactly call that a 0
Jolibean45 ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 21:19:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok I thought that when I was 5, but ya know, kindergarten logic.
Backstory: I asked my then pregnant mom how you knew how many kids you would have and she told me that you just decide. From there my kinder brain deduced that to have a baby you got married, went to a doctor and had a baby put in you.
I was a weird kid.
canihavemymoneyback ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:48:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, that's the way some people do it. And they pay a small fortune for the procedure. IVF
XandraHart ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:56:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well your kid brain figured out IVF, sort of.
Jolibean45 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:30:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now I'm cracking up because at 35, I never made that connection either. I've only known multiple people who have gone through rounds of IVF, but it never occurred to me that my 5 year old self had a point.
Though to be fair, the baby I envisioned being placed inside my mother was more of a Barbie sized version of a full term fetus and I had no concept what so ever of my dad having anything to do with it. Except maybe sign some paperwork. Otherwise he was largely superfluous in my mind.
WestTexasOilman ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:10:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sexy doctor puts baby inside you. Bowchickabowow!
Commando388 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's kinda true now I guess but you can also do it in the fun way.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes perfect sense. You go to a doctor to have the baby taken out, why would you not go to the doctor to have it put in?
portlattice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought babies just magically appeared in you if you were lucky
Ima_AMA_AMA ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 20:05:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But wouldn't the generations kind of learn after time that, you know, it causes children? Or would they just not pass on the information?
yosol ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 20:21:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's one of the problems of education in the rural parts of Mexico. It's considered taboo. Talking with friends or family about sex/menstruation/masturbation is considered offensive. I once had to explain to a 60+ year old patient that the "love-making feeling" she had when she touched herself is called masturbation. She never heard of it.
DLee_317 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:05:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes u wonder how they even knew what sex was to have it in the first place. If its never discussed
Big_TX ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:19:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I Read this on another thread.
This girl in college had a friend who received no sex education so she taught her what sex was. Then her friend felt sick because she thought she was a virgin but she had been having sex for a long time with her BF. She just thought that what they were doing was called "making out."
DLee_317 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Ik tht fucked with her head. BF probably took advantage of tht fact.
Big_TX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe or maybe he didn't know what it was either. Reguardless, not telling her was a detrimental move.
yosol ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:18:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I understood correctly from the community, the man would have to be in charge of "making the baby". The girl (usually, they were under age marriages) would be told that let the man do the work because he knows what he's doing. So, in reality, the men were the only ones with the knowledge, while women just did what the men told them to.
I never looked any further into it because communities would see it as a foreigner being nosy.
AMViquel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you try using the Mexican word for masturbation? /s
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe it or not, she was unfamiliar with "spanking my Mexican monkey" in spanish.
aeroblaster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:08:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need to be smart to make babies. It happens by accident all the time to people completely unaware of how it works. Naturally once they accidentally get pregnant, myths can persist because they magically did not learn about ovaries and sperm just by banging for fun one night. So no, they still wouldn't learn and would not be able to pass down such information until they opened a book or googled how it really works. Just guessing how it happens is how the myths persist, they never figure it out on their own.
TaylorS1986 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:56:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sex = Pregnancy" actually isn't an intuitive thing since a person can go for a while without realizing they're pregnant.
cornicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of reminds me of how in clan of the cavemen, the main character got pregnant after being raped and noticed that the baby has some similar feature to the father. In the book, no one in the tribe thought sex=babies and she was the first to realise. I imagine it's like that, some may question it but if you don't have incentive to find out then you just don't.
infinitewowbagger ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:17:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a lass who had literally never used a condom when having sex.
She was really lucky and had never got an STD and had a hormone imbalance so didn't get pregnant.
She thought this was normal.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:59:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked with Mexican women and they were all calling a former employee stupid because she got pregnant, but then I realized it wasn't the sex they blamed, it was her loving him. "She shouldn't have had sex if she loved him."
When I said a woman can get pregnant without being in love they looked at me the way conspiracy kids look at you when you say 9/11 was carried out by 19 pissed off Muslims. "Sure bro, whatever you say"
chrispmorgan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:16:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in Guadalajara in the 2000s a bookstore had a table full of free sex ed mini books apparently produced by the central government about how babies are made and types of birth control. I didn't know at the time what a contentious relationship there was historically between the government and the Catholic Church to make public health info like this possible and felt jealous as an American that Mexico was more advanced. I suppose teenagers can now go to the Planned Parenthood website for facts like those if they don't think the organization is the Devil.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair there are whole cultures which believe this.
emote_control ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom had a similar conversation with her roommate when she was about 18. My mom had no idea how pregnancy happened. She's not dumb, but she was raised by Presbyterian farmers who were pathologically averse to acknowledging that sex even exists, and figured that she'd find out on her wedding night anyway.
Fortunately, her roommate set her straight before it became important.
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her roommate is a MVP.
skylarmt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong. Not just for religious reasons, but because many young people are stupid.
Castun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:25:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see what you fucking did here.
yosol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad someone caught that :)
avicennia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Three hot meals a day, too. /fryandlaurie
deducktions ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And buy your own house
DaughterEarth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Mennonite? It sounds Mennonite.
yosol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mennonite communities are scarce in Mexico. These were cora or wixรกrika communities in Nayarit.
DaughterEarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They may be now, but they weren't always! My whole family is from there, born and raised. But they were nearer to Chihuahua so maybe it was more so common in a particular region. Thanks Mexico!
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure Mennonite communities are scatter around the country. I've seen some people from that community either on rural or urban regions. Unfortunately, I've never entered one of their communities, they tend to be pretty selective on the doctors they want.
DaughterEarth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yah, they are pretty selective about a lot of things :/
EverySingleRedditor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Enough said.
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I get that a lot in the stories that happen here.
PiningForTheFnords ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mexico? The fundies taught this to their high school age children in North Louisiana back in the 90s, and almost certainly still do. It was incredibly common for the parents to teach the kids that once they get married, pray to god for a baby, and then they'll automagically get one. Sex didn't even factor into it except for "it's bad, don't do it".
They also taught things like men kissing = where HIV comes from, it's transmissible through touch, and homosexuality is what happens when you don't live in fear of divine retribution.
Frigorifico ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many times this are indigenous people from very closed societies, and there are no words in their languages for genitalia and sex organs, so it's very hard to explain them anything.
What some people have begun to do is to invent those words, calling uterus "baby house" testicles "baby seeds" and so on, so that the name is a metaphor for the function
yosol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These were indigenous people. And if I had known I could use the tip you just gave me, everything would have been easier.
mpuckett259 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even a doctor and I've had to have this conversation to many fucking times in my life.
dedokta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember thinking that you needed to be married and then god would give you a baby. I was probably only 8 years old though.
DenikaMae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pillow Pants....
dabisnit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is what my momma told my sister when asked why our cat didn't have kittens. Our cat wasn't married!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I legitimately thought that was how it worked until high school, since babies born out of wedlock were just about unheard of (no one would admit it, or they'd get married real quick when they found out they were pregnant) but sex before marriage was more-or-less okay. I thought that God only gave babies to married couples who had sex.
lovethycousin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mexican here, we all know that lady as the virgin mary
yosol ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AKA "La virgencita"
party_atthemoontower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My then fiancรฉ and I were living in an apartment while engaged. I ran into a new neighbor and and through small talk I told her about my upcoming nuptials. She got this look on her face and said, "You don't look pregnant." I was confused and told her I wasn't. "Then why are you getting married?" I told her I didn't understand what she was asking. "People get married when the woman is pregnant." I was stunned for a minute and told her that not everyone does that. She didn't believe me.
CaptainPain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great a legal aged voter. It explains a lot.
Fitzwoppit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in the US in a school system that didn't cover health or human biology and many families were very religious and did not discuss anything body or sex related with their kids. Poor education and ignorance can happen anywhere.
7echArtist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We all know the real way you have kids is the stork brings you a kid. Where the kid comes from who knows but they are yours now.
GayAndFired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking Mexico man! I grew up there and too many years I was taught that marriage is what lead to babies. My priest told me this repeatedly and I was so blown away when I learned the truth.
Vadersballhair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:31:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaah! He said Mexico! Racist!
folkdeath95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it's a small town in the middle of nowhere, that's still like less-than-Neanderthal amounts of education. Amazing really.
EightnAHalfFingers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:07:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I met a woman near the place you mentioned who claimed that a "Michelada" (brew involving beer and tomato with clam juice) after sex avoided pregnancy, oddly enough, she had just two kids, both planned, and an active sex life, tough to argue with that!
James_Gastovsky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:15:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How come cavemen figured that out on their own, yet contemporary people fail to grasp the concept?
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"In order to have a child, you must be married and then have a baby. Only after those two conditions are met can you have a child."
Ariadnepyanfar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:21:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a common misperception among Thai women too. As far as a lot of them know, pregnancies start occurring randomly after you have a marriage ceremony to a man.
RonPolyp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds more like Middle-of-Fucking-Somewhere to me.
rob7030 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gah, I just read Wise Man's Fear for the first time and there's an entire chapter where the main character argues with a foreigner about this. Their entire culture didn't believe men had anything to do with babies. It was the most aggravating chapter to get through.
cuppitycupcake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to my mom. Apparently my grandparents never had "the talk" with her or she never once had a sex ed class in the 70s, maybe all the girls that got pregnant in high school were sent to special homes before she found it, idk. She always heard "When you get married and start a family," so logically marriage flipped the conception switch. That's how she (shockingly) got pregnant at 17. She was also raised Catholic and never bothered thinking about that whole "But Mary wasn't married to God" thing.
I always heard the same thing, too, but associated you start a family after marriage. Sex ed in Catholic school was actually extremely thorough. She still felt the need to gently explain to me that you CAN in fact get pregnant through having sex without being married when I was 18. She was absolutely shocked by the fact that I knew this. She just couldn't grasp that though we're mother/ daughter, that I'm not identical to her in the way we process information. She's not just a Narc, but a really, really dumb one.
lol-community ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That misconception is because religious people refuse to teach their kids about sex.
p0etictragedy13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:48 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my favorite method of trolling. Like if someone has an accident baby, I always say "if they didn't want to have a baby together, why'd they get married?". It makes people mad.
Dodger944 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:49 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is pretty much how I figured babies worked before I knew about sex.
palebluedoll ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:28:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is almost as bad as those cows on "I Didn't Know I was Pregnant" who somehow, after nine months of carrying a baby inside them and exhibiting all the symptoms of pregnancy, wind up on their dirty bathroom floor with a hand mirror trying to figure out what's coming out of their hoo hah.
NameMyExDoesntKnow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:05:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or like this incident in my city
http://imgur.com/a/lRL87
Screen shots of news article because of paywall.
abortionlasagna ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 20:34:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They really should rename that show "I'm fat and clueless." I've seriously only seen like two episodes where the woman was not so overweight that her fat obscured her baby bump.
SourNotesRockHardAbs ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:11:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw an episode of that with an EMT/firefighter. She was more built-fat than overweight, a little chunkier but with plenty of muscle. She thought it was something else wrong with her and she was used to not getting a period due to her athleticism.
Febenwhat ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:22:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was also the endurance athlete or weightlifter whose abs were too strong for the bump to get past them so her internal organs got squished around instead. She also had irregular periods due to all the working out then bam a baby
SourNotesRockHardAbs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We've done it then. Those are the 2 episodes and the rest of them were just fat.
macphile ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:15:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've seen, more like, "I'm fat and have PCOS."
TaylorS1986 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:00:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just fat people. My boss at my last job, a skinny athletic woman, didn't start "showing" until the last month of her pregnancy.
Castun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who recently went through a pregnancy, if that baby came out a healthy weight I'd be incredibly surprised.
TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perfectly normal baby.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:41:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who REALLY was 9 months pregnant and didn't know until she was in labour.
Your analysis is spot on.
maskedbanditoftruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness, it happened to my cousin and she is one of the tiniest people I've ever met. My uncle called one day and said "Brace yourself, because guess what you're an auntie." (Cousin and I are very close, more like sisters.)
I asked, because come on, girl. I couldn't believe it. She's about 100 pounds soaking wet and only five feet tall. She's not athletic or anything. But I guess always had irregular periods and the baby squished her organs and grew more around the back and only the day before she got "appendicitis" was she showing enough for her mom to go "I wonder if she's pregnant. Hm."
So it happens. And if it would happen to anyone it would happen to my cousin, who is allergic to planning anything more complicated than where to grab lunch. It's not always about being fat. I call the little guy our ninja baby. Never saw him coming.
EpiphanyMoon ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of this show. Honestly, who the hell would come up with this idea? For the show that is.
Hard to believe someone can be so fat they don't know they're pregnant. And like, who is hitting that?
abortionlasagna ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:08:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The concept of the show itself is interesting. One of the thin girls who didn't know she was pregnant actually had a strangely located uterus and her baby basically developed inside her rib cage. If the show was always like that, it'd be super interesting to watch. But for the most part the show is always the same. It's a retelling of a story from an extremely overweight women about her harrowing toilet birth. And they always say "well my period has always been irregular so I didn't think anything of not getting it" and totally don't mention the fact that being at an unhealthy weight totally screws up your period. They also gloss over the fact that the person wasn't showing because they're already enormous.
EpiphanyMoon ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 21:51:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thin girl/ribcage baby. Creepy. Morbidly obese, who hits that?
/s...adding this to let you know some guys will hit anything. So you know I'm not expecting an actual, logical, answer.
Jolibean45 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:21:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't blame the cows, most grow up in a pasture with no education or even exposure to bulls until the farmer forces her into a pen with one.
(Or just goes the artificial route. There's a job I don't envy.)
kayjee17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:25:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I didn't know that cows knew how to use a hand mirror - or any mirror for that matter, and how did they get into a bathroom?/s
NoDoThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you meant moo cows, I was confused.
palebluedoll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually meant it just as stupid women, but it seems several people took as it a reference to their size...
NoDoThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you in the US?
YakaFokon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a hoo hah, but a cooter.
izzidora ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 20:44:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got downvoted to hell for criticizing women like that lol. Yeah, I don't get it either.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All sex ed classes (even the idiotic ones that say abstinence only) need to include a banner, in big eye catching letters, with the words "Sex Makes Babies!"
No matter what else is covered, that banner hangs in the room. Kids start tuning out, the banner is there. That constant reminder will do more to incentivize safe sex (and even abstinence if that's your bag) than whatever the teacher tells them.
niceloner10463484 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is literally the typical American ultra-conservative parent's wet dream.
Cancerous86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abstinence-only education, everyone. Give a round of applause. Just amazing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you give her paracetamol? ;)
AvatarWaang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You, uh, still got that girls information?
sarahsaturn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was the name of the town?
yosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She belongs to one of the various communities known as huicholes/coras/wixรกrikas (honestly, I can't remember to which group she belongs to) that live in a part of Nayarit known as Sierra Madre Occidental. She was either from the town of Chimaltitan, Atonalisco or Guajimico.
sarahsaturn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in a somewhat remote area in Mexico right now so I was wondering if it was near here but it's on the other side of the country. Were you ever able to convince her?
cited ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the plot of Spring Awakening
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believed this as a young religious kid.
rahulabon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of the episode of the Office where Michael thinks you can just scream "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" to actually declare bankruptcy
mikebong64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This explains why Mexican women have so many children.
Panzerjaegar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Am descendent of small rural community in the middle of fucking nowhere mexico. 80+ year old grandma didn't know sex lead to babies. She thought the grace of God by sleeping in the same bed as man and wife. No wonder she had 20 kids...
FloppY_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She must have played too much Sims 1.
texmexcoconut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was me in 7th grade. Raised Catholic, but family was pretty liberal. A 7th grade classmate got pregnant and I ask if she was married. Mind blown!
Zidlijan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mood. Lived in tantoyuca for a few years and a classmate was shocked condoms made it so you didnt get pregnant
01000100010110010100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty interested in more stories about your time in Mexico. Have you posted any?
Pythias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid, I thought that every time you had sex you would get pregnant. As an adult, I'm so glad to be wrong about that.
ButtMarkets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a childhood friend who explained to me he attended his parents' wedding. As a catholic kid, this blew my fuckin mind. It wasn't til I was like 15 that I figured out you can have sex outside of marriage and have kids.
CyberneticPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think that a man had to pee into a woman's vagina to get her pregnant. I was like 4, though.
Vandelay_Latex_Sales ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she practice the Ketan?
Juanhdz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Que viva el servicio social!!!!
bennitq ยท 1507 points ยท Posted at 23:05:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one is a little different.
My dad is a pediatrician. He told me the story of a teenage boy (around 13 y/o) who was referred to him (something unrelated, can't remember what). When he asked him if he was on medications, the boy's mom pulled out some birth control pills. Apparently his family physician suggested birth control as a way to treat his acne.
Yes, you read that correctly. A licensed doctor told a teenage BOY that was just going through puberty to take female hormones as acne treatment.
I think he had been taking them regularly for the past year...
Based-God- ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 00:18:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what actually happens if a boy/man takes birth control, does it affect hormones?
irishkisses ยท 281 points ยท Posted at 00:24:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!!! Absolutely!!! As an example, look at transgender people. A huge part of transitioning from say, female to male is taking testosterone.
Most birth control pills contain estrogen and progesterone, which are female hormones. So it could cause problems for that kid.
van_goghs_pet_bear ยท 299 points ยท Posted at 01:15:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worth mentioning that it's a way smaller dose than real hormone replacement therapy.
sedaak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:14:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still could start growing tits. It's sad either way.
van_goghs_pet_bear ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:19:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't think so, even combination BC pills are mostly progesterone. HRT pills are much higher doses of hormones and much more centered around estrogen.
effyocouch ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 08:40:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, you can. using BC is how many young trans women who are unable to access real HRT 'start' their transition and it can absolutely lead to breast tissue growth.
Source: Trans person, very active in the trans community, know multiple people personally who have done exactly this.
lisalisasensei ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:27:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex husband started taking these "beauty suppliments" because he was trying to slow down the aging process and I think they had pueraria or some other phytoestrogen in them. He started growing tits. Yes I am dead serious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might have had some prior underlying condition, or maybe not. Most docs seem to say phytoestrogens are not potent enough for that.
However, this doesn't mean you can have all the soya and phytoestrogen you want, as your ex husband, this other case I read, and my dad (doctor himself) say.
If you're a cisgendered male, keep off that stuff.
lisalisasensei ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:29:49 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think my ex-husband's underlying condition was an affliction called "dumbass".
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumping a Redditor girl? Obviously a "Dumbass"
I shall now quote medical literature
Dumbass disease
Specialty- psychiatry/neurology
Affected part- Frontal cortex of brain
Symptoms- 1) A general not very smart behaviour. 2)Dumps Redditor wives. 3) Walks funny 4) Writes stupid medical literature on Reddit comments.
This is a chronic condition, generally not treatable. The condition is highly stigmatised and generally not covered by insurance or the DSM-V, resulting in a majority of practitioners denying the disease and recommending r/TIFU
sedaak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:31:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Starting the hormone cascade to begin developing mammaries is far easier than it should be.
Source: Knew a guy that naturally started developing tits due to a hormone imbalance, maybe a genetic defect. His levels weren't that out of wack, but he became obese and had little woman tits. It was weird, but I was at least informed about how common it is after that.
mithgaladh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:57:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
May be why
curiousiah ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 08:21:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But big enough to make women get a little hyper-emotional and anxious when they're on it.
IAm_ThePumpkinKing ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 03:27:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the effects would be pretty negligible(though it's not entirely without risk)....trans women have to take medication to block T as well as E pills while trans men usually get T injections.
The hormones in birth control pills are also at vastly lower doses then used in HRT.
However there are a lot of much more effective and less potentially dangerous solutions to acne
xxnekochan666xx ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:37:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a trans woman and you're completely right. If I stopped taking Spironolactone and continued taking my estrogen it would barely work if not at all completely. This kid would have the same effects pretty much as the placebos would give you that come with birth control.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor kid.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a guy who did the same thing for his acne. He's now so gay I can't even joke about it. Real moody too.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:51:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
went on them before he could drive, he likes public transportation.
FirstForFun44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol was joke from comment before, I didn't know you were being serious.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was a joke too, although I do know a guy like that. Of course it's a coincidence, it's just handy for a joke.
gracefulwing ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 01:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have a gender neutral name like Sam or Morgan or something? I could see a doctor not checking gender and just suggesting it and calling it in on the phone.
TheTartanDervish ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 05:43:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My name's gender-neutral but usually male. Couldn't get a pap smear or mammo or anything for awhile until I threatened to show up to the office and drop trousers. /yes, the veterans hospital
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheTartanDervish ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:11:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hand't thought of that... eventually I got fed up and I go to Planned Parenthood til the VA fixes themselves. All my mail comes addressed to "Mister" despite big signs all over the VA hospitals saying "Please don't call me Mister - women are veterans too." Fuckwits the lot of them.
PP is pretty judgement-free and has lots of fee waivers, is that an option for FtM?
Azertys ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how it could happends... If I was the one taking the appointment and a semingly male name asked for a pap smear, I'd just ask their gender, and just write it down if they tell me they're indeed a woman.
TheTartanDervish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Veterans' Administration. Not the brightest bunnies in the basket.
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:58:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Similar thing going on with my name... never thought of that.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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gracefulwing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I first got it at 15, I didn't see the doctor at all. I called and said I was sick of having irregular periods and they called it in.
tortusrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was always required to have a pelvic exam every so often and definitely before the first time I was prescribed it.
breakingborderline ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 01:00:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, birth control pills are a valid acne treatment, but only in girls as far as I know.
TheTartanDervish ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:44:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Acne has a variety of causes, BC pills aren't exactly an easy-on-the-body solution esp for teens.
Cpt_Tripps ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:59:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes but telling parents birth control fixs acne is a good way to get parents who are in denial about their teen having sex to get their teens birth control.
TheTartanDervish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:13:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are IUDs and so forth - BC Pills are waaaay overpushed and oversold in the USA.
If the parents are more worried about acne than unplanned teen pregnancy, that's a problem much deeper :(
mattstreet ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 02:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my (now) wife was on birth control I freaked random people out a couple of times by taking a few of her sugar pills. They're just there to keep people in the habbit (and yes I made damn sure that's what they are first)
gunner_jensen ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:19:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taking birth control pills (sugar pills included) in front of an audience strikes me as such a strange hobby.
mattstreet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to do something a minimum of 5 times to consider it a hobby.
gunner_jensen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:18:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know you, I don't know your life, maybe you do this literally every Tuesday afternoon I just don't know!
mattstreet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:19:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ap0Th3 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:10:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well let's see now. Does FSH or estrogen affect acne in any way?
MissBelly ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:24:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Acne is heavily influenced by unopposed androgens. Estrogen opposes testosterone.
jungletigress ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 00:49:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a trans woman that started hormones at 30, I can definitively say that it had an impact on acne.
deep_in_the_comments ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:48:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard of a number of people receiving birth control earlier than they would normally need it because it worked well for them against acne.
Jacqques ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 02:15:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When does one "need" birth control pills?
Edit: Apparently no one can tell me when one need to take it, but atleast I know every women should definetly take it. Thanks Reddit.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:25:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Severe acne, severe cramps, uncontrollable PMS/PMDD, nausea, vomiting and other symptoms associated with your period, PCOS and related hormone disorders, pregnancy prevention, a million other things.
ReluctantAttention ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:20:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well for me I need it to balance out my hormones for my PCOS or else my body wouldn't expel my period ever. It also allowed me to feel more feminine, and after I started taking it I realized that I was attracted to people for the first time.
So I mean there are cases where it's needed
LevelSevenLaserLotus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... it's exactly what it says on the tin. Birth control pills are pills that are needed to control birth. Plus it can help with acne and other medical issues that are affected by hormones.
breadedcollie ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:17:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Birth control pills/injections don't have FSH in them. They usually have estrogen, progesterone, and/or other similar chemicals like cyproterone acetate, drospirenone, or norethindrone. In addition to increasing the amount of progesterone and estrogen in the body, some of these chemicals (particularly cyp and drospirenone) also have anti-androgenic affects (further reducing the amount of testosterone).
usechoosername ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:50:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to know, did it work to take down his acne?
Youthro ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:32:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OH MY FUCKING GOD. What happened to the kid?
hatbeard ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 01:20:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing we know for sure is he didn't get pregnant.
UnApprovedActivities ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:26:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't stop the laughter
CatOfGrey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's an up-and-coming interior designer in West Hollywood.
excelhelpplease80 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:26:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, there's a lot of stupid doctors out there too. Sometimes, the 12 years you spend in school just wasn't enough.
My doctor told me benzodiazepine withdrawal and alcohol withdrawal couldn't exist once the drug leaves your system. So all those DT's and seizures are just a person being dramatic, apparently.
MiladyRogue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, a licensed doctor gave my sister's ex husband a medication that is used for menopausal women, I can't remember the name but I'd know it if I heard it, when he was a young teen...like 12 or so...to control mood swings. He has breasts. Not big ones, but I have seen him shirtless and he has a large A small B cup breasts.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:07:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Unicorn_Tea_Party ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:32:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God damn it, we can't even show a bit of empathy before thinking with our genitals.
Sounds like Reddit as usual, lads
R3belZebra ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:59:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its just terrible isnt it
u4iak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually this is very common. I was given two different forms of women's bc before I was given acutane.
Not sure if you know how horrible acutane is, but it's effective on fixing some horrible acne. My acne was so bad that people at walmart would stop and stare at me or even approach me and tell me to wash my face and stop eating chocolate... Not sure what happened to the pic of me before I started the meds, but told the parents to burn it.
Taking female birth control as a male is mostly harmless. It didn't fix my acne and I still masterbated firiously to whatever women fashion catalog I could find.
FormlessAllness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hope they sued
InternetPointsMatter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! A 13 year old with his own boobs? He'll never leave his room.
NegativeX2thePurple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...how high was his voice?
uncle-schlorps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are actually acne treatment tablets that have the side effect of acting as birth control (eg brenda/diane/estelle-35) which are commonly prescribed as birth control to women. That isn't their purpose, they are just misused. This could be what he was taking. They dont contain oestrogen
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this in the US? I'm a pharmacist and birth control for a guy would raise a parade of red flags.
TheAwfulGrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gosh, a guy I knew in high school took birth control all four years for acne. He thought it was hilarious and would joke that at least he knew he wasn't pregnant. Still had tons of acne and was weird to boot.
pastaenthusiast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is especially weird because at some point pharmacists had to FILL that prescription and should have picked up on the mistake. That's (one of the reasons) why they're there.
chloelouiise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know of a few males who were given birth control for acne. They've all come out with no issues?
Fredissimo666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently though, birth control pills CAN help for acne. My girlfriend got some prescribed for this reason. For a boy, though...
ShadowWriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually really common. Heaps of my male friends in high school were on the pill for acne.
Adei90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor kid. Did it have any effects on him?
MumBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how was his acne?
AyeBB8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some forms of birth control do help acne a bit. It cleared mine up pretty well.
ruinevil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the mother got her ortho-tri-cyclen and his doxycycline mixed up.
argella1300 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:37 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, for some women being on regular (as in on a regular basis) hormonal birth control can have an awesome side effect of reducing the severity of one's acne.
nutsnerem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have a nice rack?
NessieReddit ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Did the GP get sued after the boy's testicle shrunk and he grew small boobs?!
van_goghs_pet_bear ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Birth control pills don't contain HRT level doses
potato_ships ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the one that fucks me up the most in this thread. I'd want to kill that shitty Doctor.
GimpyTreat ยท 3272 points ยท Posted at 21:57:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dentist here
Things I've had to explain to parents:
Breast milk CAN cause cavities
Don't put your kids to bed with a bottle with Coke in it. (They then switched to Diet Coke).. facepalm
Don't wiggle out your permanent teeth just because the tooth fairy will give you money.
You can't brush cavities away with toothpaste or any of these new Internet fads (oil pulling, honey, chocolate) once your cavity is deep enough it needs to be fixed by a dentist.
Fluoride isn't poison any more than table salt is poison. Small quantities are good for you. Anyone who tells you otherwise has been lied to and believed it.
I have plenty more, but I'd have to think harder.
Edit: Had a few questions about #3.. there was a little guy probably 8 years old or so that had wiggled out his 4 lower PERMANENT incisors (front teeth) after wiggling out his 4 baby teeth in the corresponding spots because his family made such a big deal about giving him money from the tooth fairy. They were in my office asking when the new teeth would be coming in.... had to tell them NEVER.
Edit#2: incisors only have 1 root typically and when it first erupts it is not completely developed and the tooth is still moving through bone so it isn't really firm in place yet.. this kid capitalized on a single-rooted, undeveloped, erupting tooth, and with a little elbow grease and the promise of riches was able to tough it out.
OlderRedditAccount ยท 1302 points ยท Posted at 22:46:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my partner is an MD and has told me stories about patients who ONLY drink soda/pop, period. Theses teens have crippling headaches and sleep 4 hours or less a night. No water. ever. it's like idocracy out there.
turnedoffTVgrey ยท 930 points ยท Posted at 00:06:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water? Like from the toilet? Why would I drink that?
MyStrangeUncles ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 00:43:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brawndo gots what plants crave.
Year3030 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brawndo's got elecro-lites.
Shamus_Aran ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:22:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are electrolytes?!
Year3030 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:23:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's what plants crave.Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Blues1984 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:29:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck You, I'm Eating.
DRUMMAGOGG ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:24:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ow my balls!
Year3030 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go away, BAITIN'!
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:00:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fish f*** in it.
Notsure_jr ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:35:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm notsure
orang307 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:42:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you like money?
imghurrr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fish fuck in it
rjlupin5499 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, right? It's not what plants crave, so why would we crave it?
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 00:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MrLangbyMippets ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 82 year old grandma is like this. All she drinks is coffee and wine and Diet Coke, and all she ever eats are donuts and potato chips and toast. I have no idea how she hasn't died yet.
arpsazombie ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom also lives in Phoenix. You sure your grandma is 82 and not 62? Because I think they are the same person.
gracefulwing ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Water" pills are diuretics. They make you pee. They actually make you more dehydrated. She probably has gout or something similar.
MrLangbyMippets ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:23:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh she has that. She also has everything else you can imagine...
FGHIK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ducknapkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called a water pill because it makes you pee. You owe so much your urine sometimes comes out clear like water.
helm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she didn't grow up on a horrible diet, but adopted it later in life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you think water comes in pill form cause it's called a water pill? You belong in this thread.
redsolocup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did he say originally. Trying to find a good one for this post.
Sir_Davik ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is she a fan of Rippetoe? ^^
arpsazombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to Google that. no she's just crazy.
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the chocolate gallon milk drinking contest I had with a couple friends....
notyounow ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:46:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was that as a teen. Diet pepsi only, our water tasted gross and sometimes came out of the tap brown so we didn't drink that. Mom (who worked as a nurse's aid or something like, 30 years prior) never bought us water or anything.
This woman also freaked out, cried and pinned me down to shove forkfuls of hamburger helper into my mouth (back of my throat, tasted blood for awhile) when I started eating veggies without meat once in a while.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:39:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh . . . Oh my
lamerthanfiction ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:22:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is similar, never drinks more than a few sips of water at a time. Buys water for the house, but is always amazed when I drink a full bottle in one sitting.
Literally cried when I went vegetarian in high school, then went full blown anger mode for a month before I stopped to appease her and ate meat again.
She doesn't consider a plate without meat a meal.
I just do not understand the vegetable hatred.
DroidLord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brown water can be caused by any number of things. Running the tap for 5-10 minutes usually clears it out.
notyounow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:51:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not here, the whole town had it for years. They finally got pipes run to a different water source and that cleared it up. It was so bad, even our pastor still comments on it in his sermons because he was shocked when he moved here.
ETA- The company that was redoing the pipes were digging up some of them in town to replace them at the same time, and they broke one on my street. They thought they'd hit a sewer line.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, reminds me of my grandpa, who didn't know anything about medicine, started drinking only sprite when my mom got rich enough to afford it
he has diabetes now
phoenix-corn ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:44:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. I dated a 38 year old for awhile, and while it is normal to have a soda while out, I eventually found out he was drinking 12+ per day but it was okay because he thought water gave him heartburn and he switched to caffeine free after 8. He popped Tums constantly.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how I was raised. It was an awesome day if I got suuuper sweet tea instead of soda.
I understand my grandma couldn't drink water after chemo because it messed up her taste buds, but my mother had no excuse for drinking four+ 2 liters of Mellow Yellow daily.
zuixihuan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does water taste after messed up taste buds?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She said it tasted metallic, and like bile. I'm sure your results would very on the individual, but water made her feel ill to drink because of it. Told me plain Coke was the only thing that was palatable.
poorexcuses ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was probably sensitive to the minerals in the water that were reacting with her tastebuds. My dad had problems like that when he was going through chemo. I can't imagine coke would be better though.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought so too, but she was stubborn if nothing else, lol. Always cold Coke in a glass chilled in the fridge. Honestly, we were on well water so god knows what was in it.
zachiswach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would distilled water along with a vitamin be an acceptable substitute? Genuinely curious what alternatives there were.
poorexcuses ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, though I don't think drinking distilled water is recommended in any case.
slightlyamused1 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg I offered my ex's niece water once and she goes 'I hate water'. Like, really? How tf do you hate water? She also said she hated the 'little green things' on a pot roast once. It was basil. She said she hated something just because it looked like it might be healthy for you.
scarsouvenir ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:52:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It sounds like she's just looking for ways to be negative, but I have to say that I DO actually hate water and I have heard a couple other people say the same thing. It tastes terrible to me, just as any other food I don't like does. The only time I can drink it is if I'm feeling extremely hot and it's the only cold drink available, or if it's flavored - and I don't mean putting lemon in it or something (because that still tastes too watery), but those carbonated flavored store-bought bottles.
Jacqques ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:02:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have read that water doesn't have a taste. I am not entirely convinced this is true, but I do know that some water tastes horrible.
Maybe you just havne't tasted "good" water yet?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:57:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a person who only drinks water, it definitely has a taste, but as your other reply said its because of what's in it, how it was stored and its temperature. You also get very sensitive to the taste of water once you phase out all other drinks.
Don't drink distilled water though, you do need those minerals in the water.
Caleb323 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:02:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can actually drink distilled water... It's just too much that will mess you up
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair, but once you start you might make a habit out of it and believe me when I say that some health nuts will switch out their drinks for only distilled thinking its healthy because its "pure".
Much more convenient and smart to drink tap, bottled or any other non-distilled :)
Caleb323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True
tenterh0oks ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:52:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But don't you like how it makes you feel? I drink a lot of water and if i don't drink enough i feel awful. What do you drink instead?
slightlyamused1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:55:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She is just a shitty kid in general TBH. The reason she hates water is because her parents only gave her juice and soda so it tastes weird to her.
painted_on_perfect ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a kid, I hated water too. Tap water was nasty, and filtered wasn't much better. My husband grew up in a mountain town. Glacial aquifer pumped directly into their town's water supply. Even in the summer, came out ice cold and delicious. That water was good. Now... We have reverse osmosis, we drink it quite often. Still hate tap water.
Caleb323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most tap water tastes off for me... I love water so I can really tell the tastes of different waters through different filters and pipes and what not
IFreakinLovePi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tap water is super metallic in taste, especially in cities. My SO doesn't notice it, but I grew up on mountain water and then lived on a property with its own well. Good water should be damn near flavourless.
slightlyamused1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely get from my comment that there was not enough information for people to see how terrible this little girl truly is. The water was a direct result of her parents exclusively giving her juice and soda straight after breast milk and, upon her throwing a fit after trying water, gave up and continued to give the 2 year old Mountain Dew. This is only one example.
Psycosilly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My neice loved to drink water when she was little until my mom (grandma) started putting Pepsi in her sippy cup against my sisters wishes. Then if you gave her water she would scream and throw the cup. Now 10 years later she's fat and lives off soda :(
TheMercifulPineapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I about flipped out on my stepmom when I saw her letting my niece, who was around 1 at the time, drink soda out of her Sonic cup. But it was okay because it was diet?
My parents let me drink soda from a young age and I have a really hard time drinking enough water now. I don't want that to happen with her.
Psycosilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess I'm kinda lucky we were too poor to have soda growing up but drank sweet tea and water. Drank mostly water as my dad was an ass hole and decreed there always be at least 1 full gallon of cold tea for him in the fridge :(
slightlyamused1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:47:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From this girls diet she is clearly going to be overweight and have a very hard time eating healthy/losing weight/etc. Her parents also treat her like a little princess and give her whatever she wants so she's just shitty to be around in general. She's in for a seriously rude awakening when she gets older and people don't bow down to her just for being a girl.
Orangulent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still miss the tap water from my dad's house.
lamerthanfiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are loaded with no calorie sweetener, usually aspartame, no better than diet soda unfortunately.
I say that as someone who loved to drink black cherry carbonated water for years before I bothered to actually read the ingredients. Really bummed me out.
CooCooKabocha ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:56:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And why is aspartame bad???
lamerthanfiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it certainly disqualifies the drink as "water."
But if you listen to my health nut uncle it has all kinds of side effects, and is a major carcinogen.
I try to keep it out of my diet after years of drinking 12-40 oz. of diet coke per day.
holdmypenisforme ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a guy who lived in my dorm in college who drank 10+ cans of soda a day. He passed out on the floor in front of my room one day, so naturally I called 911 and pulled up a chair. I then got to listen to the paramedics explain that water is necessary to continue living before they took him to the hospital so he could be pumped full fluids.
Naturally he came back from the experience and switched to diet because, "its more watery, so its good for hydrating"
dinosauralienspirits ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
donteatmenooo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:33:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the water in soda and food was good enough to hydrate you...?
Flatoftheblade ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:50:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's not healthy but carbonated water is the main ingredient in soda so you won't die of thirst exclusively drinking it. That story doesn't make sense.
holdmypenisforme ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:17:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't that he was dying of thirst, it was that he was not properly feeding his body. He convinced himself that it was merely a hydration issue because they gave him fluid at the hospital. Ultimately he dropped out and enlisted with the Air Force.
poorexcuses ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:58:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god they'll just feed him there.
Yksteldus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much my childhood since the tap water in my hometown tasted so bad. Hated all water until I discovered distilled water in my teens.
syentzs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was going to reply with a warning about how distilled water can leach minerals from your body, but googled first...
Wow are there a wide range of opinions on this subject!
Yksteldus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've moved on since my adolescence to spring and most tap water, but I still can't stand the overly chlorinated water some cities provide.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sadly enough, bottled water can be more expensive than soft drinks. and if the tap water isn't safe to drink (often in poorer communities) people sometimes have to survive on soft drinks.
filinalittlefeeling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend does this. After enough nagging I've managed to convince him to at least drink juice instead of soda all the time. Not sure how much better that is, but I tried.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, its got electrolytes!
BigAggie06 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But it has electrolytes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up like that for a bit. My dad bought tons of soda, and never felt like paying the small bit of money to get our water filter fixed/replaced, so our water tasted nasty.
Now that I'm an adult I realize how fucked up only drinking soda, and juice and whatnot is.
zuixihuan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everywhere in China, Vietnam, and Japan, I constantly encounter a lack of water at restaurants. Most people rarely drink pure water. I honestly do not understand how all these people are not severely dehydrated.
NonstandardDeviation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tea and soup? It's possible the tap water used to be unsafe to drink without boiling.
missartteacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a co-worker (late 20s, maybe) who believed drinking soda was the same as drinking water. She also hated eating alone because she was afraid she would choke and no one would be around to help her. She also had 5 cats and wore shoes that were at least 2 sizes too big. She was an odd duck.
mikeyBikely ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a kid who took ADHD medicine because he was way too hyper. But he drank a 16 ounce energy drink and ate pop tarts every day before school.
phasers_to_stun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt only drinks diet coke and coffee. No water ever. She's getting botox now to try to help her migraine headaches. And she has trouble sleeping. I wonder why..... sigh
Crankeedoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unrelated, but wtf is up with that video's description?
BadBetting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly most of my drinks are soda if I drink at all. (I drink less than 3-4 cups of liquid a day regardless I don't know why but I hate hydrating myself). I still drink some water and tea and I know its a problem for sugar and all but at very least my enamel is great and I have never had any dental issues.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who knew that would wind up being a documentary?
lolliemonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how that is even possible. Sometimes a cold glass of water is the most satisfying taste ever.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex-girlfriend was like that.
She wouldn't drink anything that wasn't carbonated. She always bitched to be about her constant headaches and lack of sleep. After a while her family was able to convince her to switch over to seltzer water. Still a bitch, but doesn't whine about the results of her idiocy anymore, at least.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
had a friend/coworker who was totally distraught that her boyfriend was in the hospital for drinking nothing but energy drinks in the middle of one of the worst summers in Oklahoma (100+ degrees daily) and that the doctors and nurses were acting like it was 'his fault' he's in the hospital. Like kid I'm sorry but your boyfriend is 18 and should know by now that what he did could've killed him.
Tx_runner_dad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My niece is 7 and my nephew is 4 and we've never seen them drink water, however lots and lots of juice and soda. My almost 5 year old won't drink anything but milk and water. If you offer him juice he will politely decline and ask for water.
Crochetems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water?? You mean that stuff in the toilet?!
Year3030 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go away, BAITIN'!
solowife11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in a lower class family. We never drank water, drank soda, mainly Mountain Dew, ate TV dinners most nights and each got a full bag of chips to snack on for a few nights. Unhealthy as fuck. I married into a really healthy family and they taught me how to eat right and take better care of myself. I never knew any better, I just ate how my family did. I lucked out with an extremely high metabolism and was super skinny.
ahchava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My co worker us this way. She's 30. She says water makes her sick. It's much worse now that she's pregnant. For a while she wasn't drinking anything, we broke her of it quickly at work, and I eventually made a punch that surprisingly worked for her morning sickness. Unfortunately it's still super high in sugar, but at least shes drinking Something.
jimanri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brb having a glass of water
TheLaramieReject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 29, and I started drinking water less than two years ago. It's better than I thought it would be.
Yes, I grew up with crippling headaches. And yes, I slept very little as a teen. I no longer really drink soda, and although I still drink 7-8 cups of coffee per day, I also drink a glass or two of water. Yay me!
LarryfromFinance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma in law is like that, she literally brags about never drinking water and only drinking diet coke. It just makes me cringe, she's like 60 and can barely move and can't breathe without an oxygen tank while my grandma is the same age and is still running her janitorial business. Smoking and diet coke isn't something to be proud of meemaw.
mdds2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did that for probably 10 or 12 years. Giving up pop was the second best thing I ever did. Best was removing the tv from the bedroom.
Divine_Umbra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...In my defense, Soda has water in it.
fish-fingered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They drink period!? What the!??
mysliceofthepie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my step mom, except she drinks almost as much water as she does soda. I have explained to her that 100 oz of water a day doesn't meam much when she also has 128 oz of Diet Coke, 1 to 3 extra large Monsters, and then ~10 margaritas at the end of the day.
She is BLOWN AWAY that she gets no sleep when she drinks like this EVERY SINGLE DAY. Oh, and she takes Tylenol PM at the end of the night.
She is going to die some horrid explosive death, I'm sure.
Pipes32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
16 cavities when I was a teenager due to this and a very lax brushing regime. That fixed me for sure. I very specifically remember being falling down drunk in college but crawling into the bathroom to brush my teeth before bed. GOTTA BRUSH...NO MORE CAVITIES.
EredarLordJaraxxus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mostly drink sweet iced tea. I brew it myself with store bags and tap water. My father has a psychological addiction to Pepsi. I like my choice.
cobysev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, two Idiocracy links in a row in this thread. My faith in humanity is dwindling.
FEMALEforREAL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was me as a kid. The tap water in our house tasted really bad. I almost never drink soda now, usually just water, milk, and sometimes kombucha.
RUST_LIFE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. I wondered if this was why I only slept 4 hrs a night and have headaches all the time, then I realised it couldn't possibly apply to me as I'm 34
SinkHoleDeMayo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt is a psychologist and runs a clinic that helps all sorts of people. Not sure if someone in the family was a patient or something but she was telling us about these parents who always let their kids drink pop or juice, it's all they seemed to drink. A 3-4 pretty young kids with rotten teeth. It just baffles me parents can do this to their kids.
Transgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just the thought of that is making me sick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I may sleep 2 hours a night and work/procrastinate myself to death for the other 22, but I drink a fuckload of water. Thank you for giving me something to be proud of
FormerGameDev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i've made it to 40, was like that for about 15 years, i think.
well, no, i guess i have to subtract the 3 years i drank beer.
contraigon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is me. I survive entirely on root beer and chocolate milk. Mug isn't caffeinated, though, so no headaches or insomnia.
Hayasaka-chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once told my mom that she needed to drink more water. She looked right at me and said, "Jessie, my Dr. Pepper is just as wet as your water."
Alrighty then.
meowqct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a (dumb) teen, I rarely drank water and would only drink milk, juice, eggnog (when available), and pop. I rarely drank water and of course, had a lot of headaches. Sooooo much regret. I drink more water now.
elcapitan520 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in a kitchen that was tiny and hot as shit and there were guys over 30 only drinking soda all day everyday. They were all diabetic with their insulin stored in the fucking low boys and they wouldn't stop. I gave them all the literature after yelling at them for months. Never helped. No idea how they are, restaurant Co workers aren't always friends. The rest was great but I abhorred every tuesday/wednesday with those two idiots
losian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair it's the parents. Growing up we had sweet tea or soda in the fridge, period. Maybe fruit juice or gatorade, which has near as much sugar as soda anyways. You can't expect a kid raised in that to understand the damage and risk.
Dragster39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some day idiocracy will turn into a documentary... I hope that I am already dead when that happens
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my theory is this is a reason mental illness "mainly develops in adults in their early 20s." As teens we eat garbage, then in our early 20s we don't feel so right. Then magically many people "grow out of their mental illness," as they get older. I attribute all of this to poor diet, malnutrition, and lack of self-control regarding what we eat.
TheMercifulPineapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My step-grandma is like that. Then she'll complain because she gets UTIs, and then complain that the antibiotics make her mouth dry, so she drinks more soda.
Sharad17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait this is bad, why do you need non sugary water too?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come to the south, it's like it's one of the ten commandments or something.
Chaosfay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:34 on May 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of my sister's only drank soda/pop. Never water or juice or anything else. She was 13 when rushed to the hospital for breathing problems and a massive migraine. My sister went with her, and what I learned is that the girl's blood pressure was so high they couldn't risk taking a blood sample. Testing her blood sugar was MESSY because of said blood pressure. She had to stay at the hospital for a week because of other complications, and her parents were given a VERY stern lecture about soda/pop. It's been over a decade and even though she's cut that crap out of her diet her heart has permanent damage, and she still has blood pressure problems.
Dragonogon ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:07:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing I have ever drank was soda. I rarely drink anything else, and I don't get crippling headaches. I also sleep more than four hours. I guess I'm just in the minority.
Xenu2112 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:14:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How old are you? Asking because I'm now in my mid-40s; my mom used to give me Coke in my bottle when I was a baby and soda was basically all I drank until my early 20s.
Had dental problems all my life, starting in my late teens, had lost all my molars before I turned 30, and every single tooth left in my mouth has been root canaled. I'm about to pay another 5 grand for my 4th titanium tooth implant. All this could have been avoided had I just layed off the sodas.
Stop it. Seriously.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i cannot imagine any parents doing that, my first time drinking soda was when i was 8 and bought it in secret to try it
when i got home my parents beat the shit out of me and i wasn't allowed to have money anymore
come to think of it, that was probably worse for my health than soda
FGHIK ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:53:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See, now this is excessive in the other direction. Extremes are bad either way.
i_right_good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What about extreme moderation?
AncientSwordRage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know in Unbreakable, when SLJ revealed it was him who caused all those accidents, just to find his opposite? This is the coke version.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i have no idea what you're talking about but i'll bet it's pretty intense
AncientSwordRage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's very intense. Spoilers
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's terrible. Unfortunately, I was somewhat in the same boat. I've had lots of soda throughout my entire life, but especially from the beginning of high school until now. I have tried to quit multiple times but never succeeded, until now.
One of my new year's resolutions was to stop drinking pop, and I am so far 9 days without a soda (edit: I was drinking soda almost daily prior) . The only issue is now I am more drawn to drinking other drinks, especially if they are sweet.
I have been drinking more beer, milk, and ESPECIALLY coffee. But I consider a small price to pay to stop drinking soda entirely.
I have been drinking more water as well, and I think I am going to buy myself a water bottle to bring around so I am no tempted to buy coffee, and when I do have coffee (for the caffeine, mornings are hard) I am going to get it with 2 milks instead of the classic double double (2 cream, 2 sugar).
I am 20 right now, and it is starting to dawn on me that I need to start taking good care of my body. My teenage body and high metabolism have helped soften the blow of drinking so much soda. I only hope that by stopping now I can prevent myself from having future health issues.
The goal for me this year is self improvement. Stopping soda is part of that.
donteatmenooo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great! Do be careful of juices; they have a ton of sugar in them too, and can be as bad as soda in many cases. But you can start watering down juices, over the course of a couple weeks. Also, lemon juice in water is satisfying to me, especially when I haven't had a lot of sweet stuff recently but water isn't cutting it. And green tea (among other teas) has a lot of flavor without needing sugar. Anyway, good luck! It's super impressive!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
donteatmenooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, and if you love carbonation, try carbonated waters! :)
Dragonogon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 15. I know that it's bad for me, but I can't stop drinking it.
I remember that my mom told me that when I was around 1 or 2 years old, I grabbed a soda from the fridge and drank it. I think that's what made me love it so much.
It's delicious, and I know it's bad for me. I just can't stop drinking it. I haven't been to the dentist in close to three or four years now because none of the dentists around me accept the insurance that I got switched to from CHIP.
The only dentist that I went to go see never washed his hands before putting his hands in my mouth, nor did he clean the mouth piece. He also took fake x-rays, and refused to let me see them. The dentist I had before him always let me see the x-rays that was taken immediately after even without me having to ask.
So, I'm sure that doesn't help make my teeth any better.
throwthisawayrightnw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:28:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a troll post?
Dragonogon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I'm being dead serious.
Wingfril ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, you WILL get diabetes and shiton of dental problems if you don't stop. Being young will only prevent problems from showing up for so long.....
Just start cutting slowly. Dilute the concentration and limit yourself.
AfterReview ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"15 years old"
"Haven't seen a dentist in 3-4 years"
So at 11 or 12, you were asking to see x-rays, then determining they were fake because the dentist refused?
You mention chip insurance, so I'm assuming US. So around 2013, a dentist had such poor hygiene as to jeopardize his entire livelihood and savings? Because what you described are numerous and serious violations.
Hard to believe is putting it nicely.
Dragonogon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, more or less, my parents asked. I usually say "I asked", or "I went", ect. When it involves them. So, they were the ones who asked.
But, yeah. With the bad dentist, my parents actually called them up to talk. I'm not too sure what was all said, but I know that my mom did most of the talking.
I'm not too sure if that dentist is still around anymore. If you don't believe me, then I can see why. It really did happen though.
Also, the best way I could describe the x-ray thing was fake x-rays. All they had me do was bite on something for no less than about a few seconds. They didn't lower anything onto my head. They just had me bite down, and that was that.
AfterReview ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough.
You're either committed to this lie, or it's a disturbing truth.
I appreciate the response either way.
That being said...Drinking less soda will cause you to crave less soda and replacing with water will make, literally, EVERYTHING taste better because you're taste buds won't be so constantly overstimulated.
Crazy_GAD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Switch to tea. It's mostly just the act of drinking something with flavor that you're craving.
dinosauralienspirits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Switch to monster drinks they have electrolytes
gracefulwing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Switch to unsweetened seltzer. If you're in New England, Polar is a great brand and always has special seasonal flavors.
APiousCultist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you don't. You're thinking 'slightly unhealthy' and 'increased risk'. We're talking diabetes, severe tooth decay (which, yes, can kill you via infection if its untreated), risk of heart disease, and all manner of other risks.
You don't need to cut it out entirely, but you need to at least force yourself to learn to tolerate drinking water.
Dragonogon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand the risks, and I am trying my best to cut back on soda. I used to drink around four or five a day, now it's slowly dwindling down to two or three a day.
My deceased grandpa had diabetes, so I know what it can do to a person. I'm not too sure what he died from, but I'm certain it was from his diabetes.
For the decaying teeth, I understand that as a risk aswell. If it ever gets to that point, and if I can't see a dentist, then I really have clue what to do then.
My number one concern is the heart diseases that can come about. I don't want to be twenty five, and suddenly have an heart attack or something. I know that it probably doesn't work like that, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
Like I said, I'm trying my best to cut down on the soda. It may not be a huge difference, but it's a start.
LordDigBick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Want to be 25 or 30 and have no teeth? That's the path you're on bud. Check yo self
APiousCultist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's better at least. Just seemed like you were taking the "oh well" path of not trying to change from your other comments, which would truly be dangerous.
RegMoo004 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:31:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're going to have serious future health problems if you don't cut back and drink more water or even milk!!
APiousCultist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fuck get some bottled water in your diet at least. Not to be fear mongering, but drinking exclusively soda really is in "you probably shouldn't be functioning" territory. Even if it is just sparkling water you're drinking that carbonation isn't great for your teeth (think how OxyClean works by cleaning with bubbles) and likely causes a lot more gas.
yoiforgotmypassword1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats fucked up man
jnksjdnzmd ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 23:02:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have a friend who refuses to drink tap because it has "fluorine" in it. I tried to explain fluoride but he wasn't buying it. He just pointed me to a blog and told me to read the truth....
KickItNext ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:47:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know people who do the same.
I've been guzzling tap water my entire life, so either I'm superhum or fluoride isn't bad for you. It's the latter of course, the former is still up in the air.
jnksjdnzmd ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:19:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well the confusion for my friend is flouriNE vs fluoriDE. They believe they are the same. One is in fact poisonous and the other is only in large amounts but I guess basic chemistry is a bit complicated for people.
KickItNext ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:29:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could always just drink a bunch of tap water in front of him and then hang out for a while to show no signs of being poisoned.
I doubt he's ever going to understand basic chemistry, but putting your life on the line (from his perspective) might get through.
jnksjdnzmd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah...do something millions do and have done for as long as flouride has been used. So probably 50 years. "It's a slow poison. It's just another chemical that causes cancer or something."
Nothing will change a skeptics mind except for something that includes a conspiracy and a way to make you feel smart for not being "gullible".
KickItNext ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:52:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In that case, convince him that claims of fluoride in water being bad for you are just propaganda financed by Big Dental to prevent people from keep their teeth as healthy as they could.
Only stupid people fall for their lies.
notamagicgirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like most poison, a little won't kill you but a lot will. You know just like Lead, Mercury or PCB's. In high amounts Fluoride is toxic and can cause brain damage. Your water only has a tiny amount of it in it.
Colin_Whitepaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Printed Circuit Boards will kill me? D:
Awildbadusername ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:12:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it depends on the dosage. The ld50 for printed circuit boards is about 5 tons administered topically
Colin_Whitepaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So... You're saying I should not continue swimming in a pool filled with shredded PCBs? There goes my weekend plan. =/
notamagicgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, definitely if you drink them.
-_-
Here yuh go:
http://www.greenfacts.org/en/fluoride/
arpsazombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here straight out of the tap Phoenix city water. Every day for almost 37 years.
Matthicus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should probably avoid it anyway because it is very high in dihydrogen monoxide, though /s
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wake up sheep.
23eulogy23 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:14:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.healthy-holistic-living.com/fluoride-officially-classified-neurotoxin-worlds-prestigious-medical-journal.html?t=DM
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422(14)70119-X/fulltext
TargetAq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The comments in the reddit thread about it are calling it out. Total bullshit apparently.
sonia72quebec ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 22:24:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a Nursing student I had to tell parents that Gatorade was full on sugar.
adcas ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 23:34:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I... wow. It's literally salt and sugar, we make a solution just like it for our chickens and drink the same solution if we're dumb enough to get dehydrated.
Marketing, I guess.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And compared to your sweat there's hardly any salt in Gatorade at all. Drinking gatorade actually depletes you of electrolytes. It just happens to be ever so slightly more electrolyte-dense than water and electrolytes=good athleticism amirite that they market it that way.
Not sure what you use for your chickens, but Gatorade is basically sugar water.
SeattleBattles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And convenience.
Fascists_Blow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is only acceptable if your parents are literally illiterate.
It says on the bottle for christs sake.
AlmightyCheeseLord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids and large quantities of gatorade...
...
A sports drink that's supposed to energize you?? Why would they do that to themselves???
Smarag ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 23:44:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not really true, I mean it's not water, but Gatorade / Powerrade have very little sugar in it compared to other softdrinks.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:00:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is provably false.
Here is the nutrition fact label for a bottle of Gatorade.
Here is the nutrition fact label for a bottle of Powerade.
Here is the nutrition fact label on a can of Mountain Dew.
The sugar-per-serving is exactly the same between the Gatorade and Mountain Dew, and the Powerade isn't much lower. It's right there on the label.
Extra fun fact: A lot of people think drinking fruit juice is "better for you" than soda. It isn't. Here is the label from a container of Tropicana Pure Premium Orange Juice and Uncle Matt's Organic Apple Juice.
They both have comparable amounts of sugar per serving to soda. All of the products in my post have comparable amounts and none are particularly "good for you."
I'm a dentist. I had to have this conversation with parents way more times than I liked because "Little Jimmy just had three cavities filled after his last checkup! How can he have more already?!"
Smarag ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:06:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It probably depends on the country? I just looked up the sugar content of our powerade here in Germany and it's 14.76g per 12 oz/ 4.1g per 100 ml. Still a lot of sugar in Gatorade wouldn't have expected that.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True. It could vary by country. Still, it's all flavored sugar water, it's just that some of it's bubbly and some isn't.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I switched from juice to Trop50. The sugar is cut in half, and I don't guzzle it anymore.
f0urd3gr33s ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great! An important factor people tend to overlook is not just how much of a sugary liquid is ingested, but the time interval over which it is consumed.
Imagine you drink a glass of juice with a meal, but it's gone by the time your food is gone. Your teeth were exposed to the sugar (and all the acids that bacteria turn that sugar into) over the course of the meal, but then it stopped. Your mouth, over a short time, returns to a normal pH and the danger of hurting your enamel is minimized.
Now imagine you have a glass of juice at the same time as your meal, but you finish your meal and keep the glass of juice, sipping it bit by bit over the course of an hour. In this scenario, your mouth is constantly being exposed to small doses of sugar over the course of the hour. This means the pH of your mouth is constantly being kept acidic, which is when enamel breaks down and you can end up with cavities.
Same amount of sugar, different exposure intervals, much different impact on your teeth. Coffee and tea drinkers who put milk and sugar in their drinks are notorious for sipping their drinks over long time periods. Food for thought!
FirstwetakeDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fascinating! Thanks.
sonia72quebec ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:56:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a 20 once bottle, a Coke as 65 grams of sugar and a Gatorade 34 grams.
Men should not take more than 37,5 grams of added sugar a day and women 25 grams. So it's still a lot.
RunningUpThtHill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually they need to have salt and sugar to replace your electrolytes. Its the whole point of them.
onedoor ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No it isn't, it doesn't even taste sweet!
EDIT: lmao, it was parody of a comment elsewhere. A father of a poster said the same thing.
luckierbridgeandrail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here you go
onedoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lmao, it was parody of a comment elsewhere. A father of a poster said the same thing.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 23:18:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY.
I had apple juice bottles as a baby. I had cavities. My younger siblings didn't have apple juice bottles as babies. They didn't get cavities. Proof my parents are capable of learning.
kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My buddy had a baby and he was taking care of her alone, so his mom was helping. Grandma kept giving the baby milk in the bottle as she went off to sleep, despite my friend asking her not to. Kid's front teeth rotted away by age 2, she actually needed implants until she got her permanent teeth. A few thousand dollars out of pocket.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:21:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
w_p ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:41:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no cavities while being lackluster with cleaning my teeth (as a teen). My brother cleaned his 3 times a day, avoided sugar and went to the dentist every 3 month and every time he had to have something done. Genetics play a pretty big part too.
Sorcyress ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:46:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also what set of mouth bacteria you have, and whether your spit is slightly basic (more prone to gum disease) or slightly acidic (more prone to tooth decay). My teeth are rotting away despite brushing twice a day and cutting waaaaay back on sugar, but damn if my gums aren't the healthiest thing.
BWandstuffs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm the exact opposite: I've abused and ignored the fuck out of my teeth and they're perfectly fine with no cavities, but my gums got pretty fucked up and inflamed for a period of time before I took it more seriously.
Zoethor2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I had pretty meh oral hygiene as a teenager, only had one very minor cavity in my life. But my gums receded to such an extreme degree on my lower front teeth that I had to have a graft placed from tissue on the roof of my mouth. Thankfully the problem hasn't recurred, that surgery sucked.
putzarino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was decent with hygiene as a kid, and pretty miserable in my 20s (didn't go to the dentist from 20 to 30).
At 37, only have 2 cavities. Genetics has a lot to do with it.
Miqotegirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Orange juice is even worse. I had to have dental surgery as a kid to get my broken baby teeth out of my gums.
mantaraytoes ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:45:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Breast milk can cause cavities?? Is it sugary? Is this a problem for babies that are just getting their teeth or for kids who are breastfed for longer?
I never even thought about that before today
merdeauxfraises ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:05:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Breast milk has sugars in it because that is what the baby needs to survive. Formula milks have sugars too. Babies tend to like sweet stuff because sugars are the easiest form of energy a human can break down and get babies need a lot of energy for growth. It's a problem that can't be avoided because it issues for all babies.
EDIT: Forgot a word.
jaylikesdominos ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:37:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, yes, and yes.
arbitrarysquid ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:04:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cow milk has a lot of sugar, too.
blondeamy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if the baby/toddler goes to sleep after a feed and doesn't have his/her teeth brushed. Its the same for any sweet drink.
spadgirl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:38:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think maybe saying "breastmilk causes cavities" is kind of innacurate/maybe not what you think! The consensus seems to be that it causes less than formula (when direct from the source), and other factors such as bacteria from mum and dad, other foods, and genetic issues can play a role. You might find this article interesting: http://www.llli.org/nb/nbsepoct02p164.html
baconandicecreamyum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the link. I'm a breastfeeding mom of a baby with 8 teeth and in the process of getting 8 more.
Valscorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People theorize that's why humans like sugar so much is that we got it when we were babies, thus why it becomes addicting.
Figms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:50:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am NOT a doctor, but isn't that literally what lactose is? I remember it as being a milk sugar that most people can only digest as infants because that's when it's vital to survival.
So not really a bad thing, just worth noting.
Edit: I don't "render" stuff so much as remember it. Thanks, Swype.
phearlez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is sweet, but any fermentable carb can contribute to cavities. Candies or bread, doesn't matter.
Gsusruls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, a pacifier exacerbates the problem. Kids who are on the pacifier longer are significantly more likely to develop cavities. At one year, they should be nearly weaned off of it.
Panguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering it's supposed to contain all the nutrition for your baby, it makes sense that there would be sugar. I've heard breast milk has a sweet taste, also. Though I suppose anything you take in other than water or celery has the potential to give you cavities.
horsesandeggshells ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 22:47:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're fighting a losing battle on that one.
Ianjohn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm skeptical about this one. Are there adults trying to get money from the tooth fairy that I'm not aware of?
motography218 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:17:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in school for dental hygiene and these type of comments are preparing me for my future...
RheaLizePotentia ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:24:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll admit the fifth one was a surprise to me when I found out. My dentist here gave me fluoride tablets for my kids because the water here doesn't have enough. Learned something new that day.
Sam-Gunn ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:13:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While deadly amounts exist naturally in certain water supplies (not municipalities in most areas, otherwise you'd be told not to drink the water), but when added and monitored it's perfectly fine. If someone says "oh, well then why do they tell you not to eat toothpaste" it's because flouride in toothpaste is at an EXTREMELY high amount compared to artificially adding it to water.
EDIT: I was having bad grammar.
lifeslittlelunatic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:33:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fluoride and I dont like each other. My skin blisters, peels and goes nuts and I try to itch myself to death when its in my water. My teeth mottle badly as well and my digestive system gets very upset. If it was just an additive option in toothpaste I would be a happy camper, I would be much less sick. Yes, My Doctor checked me out and it is the fluoride. It may be needed but I really dont want it in my water. In toothpaste should be enough in this day and age.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet that's not a normal reaction in any way shape or form. On the whole, fluoride helps. If you're in the very small minority that has such a severe reaction to it, you should drink bottled water to better control your intake and prevent such exposure.
lifeslittlelunatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ideally I need all my water not to have fluoride in it. Cleaning, bathing, drinking and so on. I did look into it but switching the whole house water and running costs is too prohibitive. Yes I know its for health but I make 22k a year and this would cost 8-10k to set up then 250-500 per month. Its not life threatening so Ill just have to live with it. I rent and the system isnt portable, its a permanent fixture. I do have an osmosis filter for drinking water but its not enough sadly. Oh well.
GimpyTreat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly! Well said.
swinginmad ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:56:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WTF..
swinginmad ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 23:58:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is literally phosphate fertilizer plant chemical waste.
Sam-Gunn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fluoride? No, it is not. Fluoride is a natural element. Perhaps it can also be created by such waste, but for most quantities it's found naturally.
If you find any one of those people who believe flouride is dangerous inherently, and you talk with them long enough, they will provide you with a link to deaths in China related to Fluoride.
The articles are usually true, but it's not inherently dangerous except for those sorts of natural deposits that reside within certain water supplies, though are not often found in most areas. The danger with those water supplies in china were due to large natural deposits contaminating the water supply without any form of regulation. A LOT more contamination.
Added fluoride, which most municipal water supplies add to the water supply, are extremely low amounts that provide mild health benefits, especially in terms of keeping teeth healthy alongside brushing your teeth (toothpaste and mouthwash, in addition to what they do when cleaning your teeth at the dentists, contain much larger quantities of it, hence why the toothpaste is so good for you, and why it's bad to make a habit of swallowing it).
swinginmad ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:53:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Municipalities do get their sodium fluoride from smoke stack scrubbers. Do not pretend that it is mined out of the earth. I live in a borough that gets it's fluoride just from that. Fuck your mass medication BS. I believe in choice.
I notice you didn't reply to the dental fluorosis comment.
Answer this and I will yield: What causes dental fluorosis?
NonstandardDeviation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you also believe that people should be able to develop goiters and cretinism through iodine deficiency? How about vaccination, e.g. for smallpox or measles? These public health campaigns completely eliminated their epidemiological targets. Sure, people aren't educated in detail about the mechanism of action of either, but there's no point because no knowing person should refuse. Similar applies to publicly funded fire departments and pollution controls. They are a problem if you want to have a rubbish heap by your front door or get rid of your ton of used motor oil, but for most people they are very good ideas.
The comment about dental fluorosis is in my opinion irrelevant at best and disingenuous at worst. It is only a cosmetic discoloration of teeth. Medically, the teeth are stronger and healthier. I hold that in balance it is like the sore arm after a flu shot - so what?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:45:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't actually believe that they are arguing against this.
swinginmad ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You failed to answer my most basic question.
Cosmetic? Come on. It is pitting in the enamel. Check yourself.
swinginmad ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:09:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It also affects the bones. Not to mention mental development. Look at the other side of the argument.
23eulogy23 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.healthy-holistic-living.com/fluoride-officially-classified-neurotoxin-worlds-prestigious-medical-journal.html?t=DM
love_and_herpes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:09:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes... 'healthy-holistic-living' is most definitely not going to be at all biased against fluoride... and neither are the sites they reference, such as the highly-renowned and totally unbiased 'fluoridealert.org', or the Lancet Report, which is known to have endorsed shitty/outright false studies before.
(on a side note: anyone else think that this entire page looks kinda like one big advertisement for the 'free cookbook' offered at the end of the article?)
TargetAq ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:18:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit agrees with that sidenote.
NonstandardDeviation ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:50:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, and at the same time a source of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is in the fumes of coal power plants, and citric acid, a commonly used food preservative, is produced industrially by black mold. The unappetizing source of these substances is no substantive argument against their use. I will not contend either way that fluoride is or is not derived from an industrial waste, but I argue it doesn't matter anyway.
Meanwhile, the epidemiological arguments for its inclusion are well-established, especially for the poor. The marginal benefits of its inclusion seem to drop with additional dental care, but the only established negative effect is a chance of tooth browning, which doesn't change the risk-reward balance.
swinginmad ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ie: I won't argue the fact because I am on the wrong side.
That was you.
Keep the faith. Lowering the low incomes IQ is OK because they are poor and can't afford toothpaste.
A long as they only have one cavity a year..!
Fluoride is not OK.
Freiling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you getting the IQ thing from?
swinginmad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Harvard study.
https://youtu.be/my_5Ib-gksI
Dr. C Napoli
https://youtu.be/wnMp0_Vbk54
Both videos but I would assume the Harvard study is peer reviewed in the literal sense.
Edit: The amount of damning evidence is massive.
I appreciate your query.
Be well.
vir_papyrus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:27:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Realistically it's probably because your municipality simply doesn't add flouride to their water. It's actually a social issue that no one really knows/talks about these days other than Dentists and conspiracy theorist types.
You ever watch Dr Strangelove? The classic black comedy film about an insane US General who tries to start a Nuclear holocaust against the Soviets. Has rants how maintaining the purity of his bodily fluids and believes adding flouride to the water was a conspiracy to drug the people by the Ruskies.
That's not a joke. That was a real controversy / belief that led opposition groups to lobby against the practice back in the 50s and 60s when the practice started to gain usage. Thus you'll see how a lot of places today have never adopted the practice. Admittedly there's some actual research and real opinions that the practice isn't as effective as once thought, but today most of that just stems from groups who philosophically oppose it, and limited govt Libertarian types.
These days people just assume, oh there's flouride in the water. They did that back in the day to help prevent tooth decay, right? Good chance in many areas if you live where that type of thinking was prevalent your tap water doesn't have it.
swinginmad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dental fluorosis is caused by eating it.
It is the only cause.
subaruchick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have this from taking fluoride as a kid, kinda puts a damper on your smile having spotted teeth :(
swinginmad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear they give it in pill form to kids in elementary school.
I'm sorry to hear that :/
subaruchick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep they were little purple and pink chewables! They sure tasted good too, my mother never had any issues getting me to take them!
swinginmad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Break the cycle.
Be well.
moldboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the last time I was at the dentist I was told my city doesn't fluoridate the water in the summer because it costs too much to just water grass with it. There is a natural amount of fluoride in the water but not "enough", so they do add in the winter
actuallycallie ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:17:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
omfg I'm sick of hearing about oil pulling being better than toothbrushing. That's the dumbest fucking thing I have heard.
Steroid1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is oil pulling?
actuallycallie ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:05:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_pulling
whenever some method talks about "removing toxins" and it has nothing to do with the liver, I immediately recognize it as BS.
inkyheart ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely ridiculous as a substitute for any dental hygiene. Not to mention irresponsible to advocate for anyone to stop brushing their teeth. However I begrudgingly admit that I tried it (followed up by a thorough toothbrushing) and my teeth have never felt so clean. I think the oil saponifies when you froth it with the water in your mouth and it's like gargling with yummy coconut soap. I do it once in a while if I want to feel extra clean.
GraphicDesignMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:45:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I have some coconut oil in the cupboard, I might give that a try when I get home from work and see how it feels!
phearlez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spit in the trash, not your sink. You really don't need yet another coagulated substance helping the hair collect in the sink elbow.
ManiacallyReddit ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:20:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I may regret asking, but I'm kind of curious about number 1. Were they drinking it themselves thinking it would make them impervious to all other tooth decaying substances?
rahyveshachr ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 22:31:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Breastmilk is pretty sugary and if you have a baby that falls asleep at the boob like I did then that milk sits in their mouth. And if they get teeth especially early or nurse for a long time then they could get a cavity from it.
Zarana85 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:36:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a first time mom with a 6 month old baby, I'm glad you mentioned this. Little man has had 4 teeth since he was 3 months old and he falls asleep like this all the time. Thanks for this comment!
NanashiNoGombe ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't stress over it. http://kellymom.com/ages/older-infant/tooth-decay/
Jennasie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it's more genetics than the breast milk. My first child had to have his four front teeth capped at 18 months. But my daughter is 14 months and shows no signs of tooth decay. Both breasted exclusively and both had teeth fairly early.
I had all four of my front teeth pulled when I was two. I was never breast fed.
Falling asleep at the breast is much different than falling asleep with a bottle. It takes effort to pull milk from the breast but it will drip from a bottle. I wouldn't worry too much about it mama.
rahyveshachr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter still nurses and sleeps at the boob at 18 months old and got her first teeth at five months so I'm kind of nervous that her teeth will need caps in the future, just like my husband.
Bugabooty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 3 year old nurses to sleep still but he brushes and flosses well and no cavities yet!
Jennasie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They are called milk teeth for a reason.
spadgirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might find this article interesting! I've heard Dr Brian Palmer speak on this before, a dentist who specifically looked at the relationship between dental caries and breastmilk. http://kellymom.com/ages/older-infant/tooth-decay/
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:46:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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uDurDMS8M0rZ6Im59I2R ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't want to damage everything else in the baby's mouth.
I'm pretty sure you have to brush baby's teeth as soon as possible. Ask someone smarter than me, though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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k_alva ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:28:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I'm not going to research it now, but if the cavities are bad enough they can affect the permanent tooth below. Also cause permanent gum damage.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:32:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It does matter because the cavities become painful and require surgery way before the permanent teeth come in.
rahyveshachr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If those teeth fall out early then the adult teeth aren't going to come in right. Also just because they're baby teeth, they still have roots and cavities cause pain.
Jennasie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:30:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you would choose to have a growing toddler to go through the pain of having cavities for their whole childhood then sure.
You loose teeth starting around age 6-7 but they don't just all fall out at once. It could take YEARS for a tooth with a cavity to fall out.
That being said I have no fucking idea why insurance companies refuse to cover preventative care on baby teeth.
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:25:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A couple people in my family have been hyping oil pulling like crazy. But they realize it isn't a cure all (we had a dentist in the family, she kept out teeth healthy). What merit would you say oil pulling does have?
Kanzar ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:39:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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GimpyTreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen or heard of any negative effects other than cost and time invested, but I haven't seen any scientific evidence promoting it either. It's just a fad near as I can tell.
koidivision ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you accept unwarranted dentist/teeth questions?
im_a_sam ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:35:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's better to ask for forgiveness than permission.
KayakerMel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must have worked with my stepmother! Seriously, all except #5 is how my half-brother ended up needing extreme dental surgery at age 3.
AnticPosition ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My university town, touted as one of the smartest in the country, voted to remove fluoride from the tap water because of a stupid fear campaign/chain email. sigh
themannamedme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the excuse these people use.
HereForDramaLlama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Growing up there was no fluoride in our tap water so our mum gave us fluoride tablets. Every time I went to see a dental nurse they would remark "oh you must have had fluoride tablets growing up" because of the noticeable positive difference it makes.
GimpyTreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can usually see a difference.
WiFiForeheadWrinkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure they didn't just see staining from dental fluorosis?
AtlantisSky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who honest to god believes that the floruide in tap water can cause your pituitary gland to calcify and become a rock. I gave up trying to explain to her that isnt how it works.
Gwuc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently /r/conspiracy thinks that fluoride is actually the devil.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't a permanent one, but when I lost a tooth, my younger sister remembered that last time it happened I got money, so she decided to cash in by pulling a baby tooth that wasn't actually loose. The bathroom was the worst bloodbath ever that hasn't actually accompanied a murder. I have no idea how a child her size (she was four or five) got blood so far up the walls and mirror.
billandteds69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question for the dentist: how can you tell if someone grew up drinking fluoride in their water? Dentists always know I'm not local within seconds of me opening my mouth because of the "fluoride signs".
GimpyTreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They often have something of a glow to them that "unfluoridated teeth" don't have.. they usually seem a bit more opaque, with a slight pearlescent quality... it's hard to describe until you stare at teeth all day, and even then, we can't always tell.
dogs_playing_poker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a dentist tell me using fluoride was a scam and he did not use any. He also told me there was none in the cities water , there is. Because it does not help anything. Hoped right out of there. He also said I had a cavity after never having one in my life.
LilRach05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a hygienist, I died a little inside after 3 and reading the edit
Pythias ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parents give their babies coke? Goddamn!
lizziebennet11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked retail pharmacy. We had a family that would come in and the youngest (I would say under age 2) would have Mt Dew in a baby bottle.
eggpl4nt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid up until I was in high school I believed this. Because the only education I had on the matter was some stupid "sugar bugs" pamphlet I got from the dentist when I was maybe eight, and I thought the sugar bugs were cavities (they actually were supposed to be plaque.)
I asked the hygienist "So if I brush my teeth, the sugar bugs will go away?"
"Yep!"
"Okay!"
Cue thought process that I only have to brush my teeth when there's cavities, low income family not going to the dentist for years, then finally going, and bam - I had ten cavities. Fun.
Jeanlee03 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a funny story about #5.
When I was 7, my dentist convinced me that if I swallowed the mouth wash he gave me, the fluoride would kill me in a very painful death. After accidently swallowing some of it, I spent the next ten minutes freaking out my impending doom. I ended up fainting for the panic. When I woke up, my mom consoled me and told me the truth. Needless to say, we didn't go back to that dentist.
PunnyBanana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or apple juice.
Source: my front baby teeth literally grew in rotten, I got them pulled when I was a toddler, grew up without front teeth, then had braces for 3 years trying to fix how insanely crooked they were since they didn't have any "guidance."
GimpyTreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true, Coke was just the worst example I came across. Apple juice can be nasty too.
scolfin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprised nobody's insisted that stuffing a cavity with sodium fluoride will fix it.
CocaTrooper42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL breast milk can cause cavities
sdzw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does oil pulling actually do anything? Products like cocowhite usually get high marks for whitening but it comes off as homeopathic garbage.
nereik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of my kids have nursed to sleep for the first year. The first ones, no problems. My last little guy, I took him to the dentist to inquire about the brown rings on his two front teeth. I was super sad to hear that it was a form of decay that will be visible until the teeth fall out. :( I'm very pro-breastfeeding for the first year, but now I'm kinda annoyed that I never read or heard about it (potentially) causing tooth decay. I knew going to bed with a bottle of sugary stuff was bad, but for some reason it never clicked that nursing to sleep was the same thing!
Jolsen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a reoccurring nightmare that my teeth wiggle and fall out. It's absolutely terrifying.
bedroom_fascist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have told them "as soon as the Tooth Fairy gives me $4,000 and I put in the implants."
Nippledick_Ruffian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg when I read about parents that let their small children live off soda I cringe.
zephyer19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
5. Some group in my town wanted the city to stop putting fluoride in the drinking water. Talk radio station had a dentist come on to talk about it and answer questions. People calling in talking about the Gov used fluoride for mind control, it was a sedative the Gov was using it keep us in line, and it caused cancer or illness.
The Dentist went over and over that it wasn't true as a sedative or mind control. That taken in the very small amounts that it was put in drinking water it was safe. People kept calling and going on and on about it causing cancer and he went over it again and again about it was safe and people don't drink it by the gallon. He couldn't seem to get that across to them. You could almost hear him slapping his hand on his forehead.
fritopie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeesh. That's third world country shit right there. I've been along on a couple of medical mission trips and that was a common thing there for people to put their babies to bed with a bottle full of Fanta. But usually once it was explained to them what it was doing or could do to their baby, they seemed very serious about making a change and kicking that habit to the curb or filling it with water instead.
GimpyTreat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interestingly enough, they were foreigners.. good call.
medinerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My biggest fear is losing my permanent teeth. I think when that happens I'm going to have to check myself into a mental institution. I don't count wisdom teeth though. Fuck them bitches.
AwkwardRainbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honest question, does oil pulling really not work? I've wanted to try by swishing oil in my mouth is unappealing to me...
FireLucid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why oil pulling is even a thing. I guess because it's disgusting so it must be good for you?
on_my_lunch_break ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You had to explain this to parents?
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you tell us more about item 3? That's beyond conception.
GimpyTreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See edit
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened when you told them he would never have those permanent teeth ever again? I am having a complete processing failure over this one, as it seems.
GimpyTreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He lost his baby teeth, then he pulled his permanent teeth.... you don't get a third set of teeth.
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I totally get that part of course. But if I knew I lost permanent ones I would freak out and lose my cool. So I was curious how they reacted when you told them how bad it was going to be.
GimpyTreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, severe disappointment. Then we had to talk options for replacement. Never saw them again.
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D'oh!
finallyinfinite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The part about putting kids to bed with a bottle of coke hurts my soul. Like. WHY.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought so till I got about 16.
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an avid reader of r/justnomil and one grandma destroyed a toddler's teeth because she let him nap with a bottle of juice. They got lucky they could cap everything instead of having to get tiny dentures.
AWildEnglishman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've seen parents that believe in the tooth fairy?
Nixie9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have Fluorosis from a normal exposure of fluoride, apparently some of us are a lot more sensitive to it than others.
KrimsonKasper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't lie, I bought into the fluoride one for a bit. I don't know why I did though, other than being young and stupid.
My real question for you is, did I loose out using non-fluoride toothpaste for a while?
goatsexonabun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, out if curiosity why shouldn't teeth be wiggled out?
GimpyTreat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PERMANENT teeth should stay in permanently.. with a few exceptions (wisdom teeth, supernumerary teeth, orthodontic extractions).. this little guy (8years old) had wiggled out 4 permanent lower incisors because his stupid family gave him so much money per tooth.
goatsexonabun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! Haha sorry, I skimmed over the "permanent" part
roguevirus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but my Midwestern raised baby boomer in-laws believe that salt is extraordinarily unhealthy. I don't even want to know what they think about water supply fluoridation.
JarJarBinks590 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To people's credit, most people will struggle to tell the difference between Fluorine and Fluoride. One letter makes the change from deadly dangerous to completely harmless.
myhipsi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sodium fluoride is, in fact, poisonous in doses much lower than table salt. Also fluoride is good for your teeth but is not really meant to be ingested. Brushing your teeth frequently and properly with fluoride toothpaste is much more efficient and healthy than just swallowing fluoride dissolved in water.
emissaryofwinds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No5 might be due to that one episode of csi where the lady poisons herself by eating two tubes of high fluoride toothpaste
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with the fluoride is when you live in the country and have well water that lacks fluoride, so as a kid, your parents give you these little pink tablets that taste good and at some point, you get just tall enough to climb up on the counter to get to the medicine cabinet without understanding that eating a lot of the tablets is bad.
wagashi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are your thoughts on NovaMin?
DctrTnT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly never knew breast milk gives you cavities, never really thought about it. But then again maybe because I didn't need breastmilk by the time I was teething
AcetylLater ยท 342 points ยท Posted at 00:13:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a 20-something-year-old patient that came into the community OB-GYN clinic and was found to have chlamydia and gonorrhea infection. I looked in her chart, and she had been treated already for both in the past numerous times. And, looks like she had gotten pregnant and had a kid. I had the "condom's prevent PREGNANCY AND STDS talk" with her. Apparently no one had ever told her that before, she had no idea. Made me realize community health is a huge problem, especially in low socioeconomic areas.
Stickeris ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:12:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If anything this thread is reminding me that I am very blessed with a decent education and access to medical professionals.
EternityTheory ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:17:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a brain, brains are good too.
LetterSwapper ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brains only help if they're well-educated.
Cpt_Tripps ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:38:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actualy brains have this amazing ability to manipulate your body into finding out information that it doesn't already have.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:33:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey bro, what the fuck is that?"
"I don't know bro, let's find the fuck out"
--The Brain
Shandrith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but there comes a point most people can't get past without help. For example if you were to take antibiotics 100 years into the past, the doctors then would be able to appreciate and learn from them. If you were 1000 years ago, they wouldn't even know what bacteria were. There is a certain level of base knowledge that far too many people are missing
kilopatricko ยท 3206 points ยท Posted at 22:04:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is a doctor. She once told me this story about a patient she had (she serves low income people, so typically immigrants/minorities, usually without health insurance). The man is from Central America and is there for a normal check up. Typical of most patients, he has fairly high blood pressure. However, this man is also having bowel problems. So my mother asks, "What color and consistency is your feces when you need to use the bathroom?" The man has no idea what she's talking about. My mom tries again: "Your poop. What color and/or consistency is it typically?" The man still has no clue what she's saying (he understands a bit of english). She tries again. "Your doo doo." Nothing. "Your fecal matter." Nothing. "Your poo." Nothing. "Not number one, but number two." Nothing. Finally she asks, "It's not liquid when it comes out, but its more solid, you know?" The man has an epiphany. "Ohh, you mean shit!" he says. "Yes, your shit." So my highly educated, professional mother has to continue the rest of the checkup asking about his shit. "What color is your shit?" "Is it more wet?" "Does it hurt when you take a shit?"
This went on for a fair amount of time. My mom nearly burst out laughing by the end of it. Absolutely amazing what a minor language barrier can do ...
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 1969 points ยท Posted at 22:08:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to imagine she ended the visit by saying "Well, your shit's all fucked up, I recommend such and such."
[deleted] ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 22:41:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
idiocracy doctor (nsfw language)
majuhlazuh ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:53:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I said, "my shit's fucked up?"
shinypretty ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:55:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"That shit that used to work, it won't work now."
gsbadj ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:18:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Let me break it on down. That's some fucked-up shit."
shinypretty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:51:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnation, do I ever miss Warren. I can't even begin to imagine what hay he and Bill Hicks would have made out of the election season.
WTS_BRIDGE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then I worked in hair replacement, swindlin' the bald
or
"Excitable boy!" They all said!
probablyhrenrai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Thanks for the shit advice, doc."
ritzhi_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well no shit
DaedalusRaistlin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:43:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like an Idiocracy reference.
"It says here on your chart that your shits all fucked up and you sound retarded. "
obsolete_filmmaker ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:12:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex wife is a tard, and now she's a pilot.
SecondaryLawnWreckin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Lexus confirmed
tamadekami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, that such and such works wonders.
Cruxion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to imagine the next patient came in and she asked "how's your shit?"
PigNamedBenis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see another idiocrasy reference.
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Your shit's all fucked up homie."
SilasX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And did he talk in an effeminate ... manner ...?
[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 23:15:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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kilopatricko ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:51:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom knows some broken Spanish, but even then it took some tries haha
pink-pink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm, was hospitalised in Thailand
damemequeen ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 23:10:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who nurses in an area with a very multicultural population we have to say shit and piss more often than you would expect.
sashafurgang ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:45:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[serious] do you ever use pantomime, like pointing to your crotch or butt and signaling stuff coming out?
damemequeen ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep and that's how someone once gave us a sperm sample not a urine sample.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:38:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO I imagine that must have been awkward. "Why is this guy takin so long to piss"
sashafurgang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And thus your clinic became the most popular attraction in town :P
Best of luck to you. It can't be an easy job...
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:43:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Hawt_Dawg_ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:59:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's where I thought it was headed
Volkditty ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:15:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have been on the other end of that. When I was living in Kuwait a few years ago I cam down with a severe case of testicle pain. I went to the hospital and found a urologist who explained it was probably epididymitis (it was). He scribbled something out on a piece of paper and told me he wants an ultrasound of my junk just to make sure.
So I take the paper and go down to the basement where the ultrasound is, run by an elderly Arabic man who didn't appear to speak any English. I gave him the papers and through hand gestures he directed me to drop trou and hop up on the table. He smeared some gel on my sac and started doing the ultrasound.
I thought everything was going fine until a few seconds in when he said something to me an Arabic. I told him I didn't understand. He repeated it, I shook my head. He started poking my stomach and repeating the word over and over. Finally, when he saw that wasn't making progress, he sighed and said, "Like poop, but no poop."
That's when I understood he wanted me to clench my abdominal muscles so he could check for a hernia.
UndeadKitten ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a pretty concise way to describe that maneuver.
Yay for old Arabic Man.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:48:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even remotely medical, but I burst out laughing in a similar situation. I was testifying in a criminal case in a court.
The judge made me remember and repeat all the vulgarities the perpetrator had said to me in order to extort me. She thereafter repeated everything to the protocol.
Imagine a forty-something woman, dressed in traditional judge garments, repeating very offensive language to the very young female intern taking the notes. I almost broke there.
OkieVT ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:25:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a veterinary clinic and we had a patient with some dermatitis around her vulva. So we sent home some wipes with a drug label that said to wipe around the vulva x times a day. The owner came back in a few days later amd said she didn't understand where she was supposed to wipe. The doctor explains it and she says Oh! The twat! I would have known if you said that!
So he makes a new prescription label that says twat....
CyberneticPanda ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:56:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandfather used to tell a story about this Polish immigrant that he worked with. The guy learned English on a loading dock, and one day my grandfather invited him over for dinner with his family. He was sitting at the table with my 8 year old dad and his 5 year old brother interspersing "fuck" every third word or so, because that's how it's done on the docks.
I_POTATO_PEOPLE ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:54:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a doctor and this isn't that unusual. Especially for things related to bodily functions and genitalia the start of your visit is usually defining terms and figuring out which words the patient uses.
It's amusing though.
kilopatricko ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:57:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would've thought "poo poo" was a universal term!
chanaleh ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:35:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, but caca is. Eeeeverybody knows caca. Except English speakers.
Konosa ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:29:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a similar situation in China. I was visiting the panda center in Chengdu with a bunch of other students. We were getting a lecture from the head researcher, a Chinese woman who spoke impeccable English. She had a wide vocabulary for scientific terms, but forgot some basic body words like "butt". So, she described in explicit detail how to massage a panda's "ass" for reproductive purposes.
TheBrillo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Profanity is some of the easiest words to learn in day to day conversation. They are short words that don't normally change with different parts of speech and are said all the time
OnlyRefutations ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:57:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so right. I speak bits of other languages and I don't know the real words for bodily functions, but I know "shit" in all of them.
curcud ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:01:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think if the patient was constipated and your mother had to say "you're full of shit", I would have not been able to hold back my laughter.
spiderthecat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:18:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit just got real.
spicy_hallucination ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:19:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of my German (Mennonite, i.e. immigrated through Russia) grandparents. I'm told that shit was their word for shit. The were farmers, cows shit, chickens shit, and people do too. German doesn't have low/high terms for shit: scheisse is their word for it, and it comes from the same word shit does. It only makes sense to use the familiar and literal translation for it. This is especially true since Germany doesn't have the (I would argue unnatural) stigma against poop that Americans do. (Citation needed?)
English is fucking weird. We have scales of "decorum" and properness than come from the devide the Normans forced on the Angles. French was high class and proper. English was low and vulgar (c.f. read the definition of vulgar in the sense of the vulgate Bible.)
spicy_hallucination ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of my German (Mennonite, i.e. immigrated through Russia) grandparents. I'm told that shit was their word for shit. The were farmers, cows shit, chickens shit, and people do too. German doesn't have low/high terms for shit: scheisse is their word for it, and it comes from the same word shit does. It only makes sense to use the familiar and literal translation for it. This is especially true since Germany doesn't have the (I would argue unnatural) stigma against poop that Americans do. (Citation needed?)
StannisBassist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in pain from laughing at this
CatBedParadise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only one that made me laugh.
nomad_kk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:08:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's cool your mother finds the language barrier problems amusing and not annoying. Most people would get irritated at someone who doesn't speak their language in their country.
kilopatricko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We are very tolerant in my area, and the simple fact of the matter is that these people are coming from places MUCH worse than we are now. The least we can do is show a bit of kindness.
Random420eks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to imagine he did this on purpose just so she would have to say shit
Bombadilicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed a lot of people who don't speak much English seem to think the word "shit" is more acceptable than it is. I've often wondered if it's taught more as slang than a curse word.
TheSixthVisitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For future reference, tell her to use "caca" next time.
rufusadams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an American living in Singapore and here "shit" is a pretty innocent word... I've heard 5 year old kids say it as if it's the same as saying poo or poop....
HomegrownTomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where my relative lives in Africa, "shit" is the term that they use as both the verb and the noun. It is not considered an expletive. School children use it when talking to parents/teachers. It's funny to our ears to hear coming from a small child though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mierda is the word she was looking for lol
NotSoSelfSmarted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother gave birth to my brother and I using a local midwife/doctor in Hameln, Germany. My father was stationed there (originally from US). The doctor spoke English decently, but apparently he only knew the curse words for some important words. For example, he once told her to scoot her ass toward him for an exam, and once referred to her vagina as a pussy. He was a good doctor otherwise.
nolo_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must say things
Like "micturate", "defecate", "intercourse"
You can't say things
Like "pissing" and "shitting" and "fuck"
Although they're the same
Although it's a pain
You've got to use the Latin name
(sauce)
Nuttin_Up ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked as a corrections officer for 26 years. I once had a Mexican inmate come up and ask me for "soup". I was confused because we don't hand out soup on the housing units so, I replied, "Soup?". "Si! Soup!" I shake my head because I'm still confused trying to figure out what he was wanting. "Soup???". "Si! Soup!!!" and he makes a washing motion with his right hand under his left armpit. "Soup!" Then it dawns on me, "SOAP!!!". "SI!!! SOAP!!!". So, I hand him a bar of soap so he can take a shower.
It was one of the funnier moments of my career.
MisaMisa21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Chinese book with English translation says "shit" as in stool sample when talking to doctor.
spacehogg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad saw this happen in reverse. It was at a hospital too & he knew this worker was going about to laid off. So after they came out of the meeting dad asked what happened & the worker got a raise. The worker said they got a raise. This made my dad even more curious.
What did you & the supervisors talk about he asked?
Well, they discussed something about termination, but the worker didn't know what that was, so instead asked for a raise. My dad then finally explained to the worker that termination meant fired, they finally understood!
zenzen_wakarimasen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, the amount of metaphors and euphemisms that British and American people use to describe common things can be quite baffling sometimes.
Wooper160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She really didn't know caca
loimprevisto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually really common! Reproductive anatomy isn't one of the first things that non-native speakers pick up on... I remember being really surprised while helping out at a clinic in Afghanistan and hearing the interpreters always say "cock" instead of penis.
justnodalong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol i imagine that man saying shit was he was toddler, instead of doo doo or poop
ronin1066 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, caca would have been perfect.
Shodan_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Everything comes down to poop"
blueweim13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:40 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of when I was an intern at the VA. I needed to do a rectal exam on a patient. I told him I needed to examine his "bottom" and he had no idea what I meant. Kept using different terms, including rectum, when finally the lightbulb goes on and he asks, "Oh, you mean my asshole?"
Inquilinus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:34:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why didn't she try "caca"? What person doesn't know "caca"?
Hank_Fuerta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like your mom's doing great work and all but maybe she could also learn Spanish?
smallof2pieces ยท 3673 points ยท Posted at 19:58:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory not me but my wife. She's a nurse practitioner and had to explain to a 40 year old man that brown sugar did, in fact, contain sugar and that is most likely the reason why he now has diabetes. The same man also adamantly insisted his wine consumption was not an issue because he "only drank the dry stuff like chianti so it doesn't have any sugar."
1nquiringMinds ยท 2509 points ยท Posted at 20:33:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my FIL was diagnosed with prostate cancer, he decided to deal with it by going vegan instead of getting actual treatment. He also "cut out all sugar" going as far as refusing to eat corn because of the high sugar content as "the cancer feeds off of sugar".
The kicker was that he was a raging alcoholic and would drink 2-3 1.5liter bottles of white wine a day.
Refused to believe that white wine is full of sugar because "it doesn't taste sweet".
Smdh
SanshaXII ยท 1437 points ยท Posted at 20:55:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A conversation I recently had with my oncologist:
"Is it true that cancer cells feed on sugar?"
"... all cells feed on sugar."
"But is it going to affect my relapse chance?"
"Oh, goodness no. A normal amount of sugar or fat in your diet isn't going to give any residual cancer cells the 'boost' they need to reestablish, nor is any tumor going to grow, or not grow from lack of sugar."
quotegenerator ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 01:26:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. I'm with the patient on this one. If you cut out all nutrients from your diet, the cancer won't come back.
rigred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:49:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's technically correct, neither will the patient.
weekend_please ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:43 on February 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one made me snort my drink.
DroidLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant XKCD.
Meglomaniac ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 21:05:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I distinctly remember reading a medical journal post on reddit saying that they found that a high sugar/fat diet does show some increase in the cancer spreading.
JakeRadden ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 21:11:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC it has to do with Ketosis, where your body gets fuel by metabolizing fats into glucose
EDIT: THIS IS BACKWARDS KETO INHIBITS CANCER NOT PROMOTES IT
SillyLonelyGirl ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 21:33:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but ketosis is not a consideration here, because the diet that showed some incidence of cancer spreading is a high SUGAR, high fat. So your body would never even begin to attempt to enter ketosis, because there's plenty of sugar to convert om nom nom.
JakeRadden ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:03:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh im dumb I misread and thought it said low sugar inhibits the spread
girasolecism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There have been a few papers posted on reddit that suggest eating a Keto-esque diet inhibits tumor growth, so you're not wrong!
JakeRadden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just an innocent idiot
SillyLonelyGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, "high sugar high fat" is not a commonly used phrase in the diet world, because it's a fucking horrible idea. Half awake browsing will get you everytime! :)
AdventureThyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Inhibits is correct.
Inhibit: hinder, restrain, or prevent (an action or process).
hiddeninplainsite ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 22:34:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you're sort of right?
Ketogenic diets are supposed to help fight cancer because cancer cells need more glucose than regular cells. Your body breaks fats down into ketones, not glucose, and uses that for energy.
Rpizza ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:39:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keto is no sugar
Chiimaera ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:22:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hooooooooold the phone. Isn't the Ketosis what a keto diet is based on triggering...?
morenn_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:33:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The keto diet does use the idea of ketosis for weight loss but it doesn't cause cancer.
JakeRadden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the above backwards... Thought it said low sugar inhibits cancer.
Leftberg ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:29:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See, this is why the Internet is dumb. See that "IIRC?" He doesn't recall correctly. The keto diet does not cause cancer. As always, talk to your doctor when you have medical questions.
Rpizza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keto helps slow it down
JakeRadden ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the above backwards... Thought it said low sugar inhibits cancer.
geeky_username ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:21:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It might
JakeRadden ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:10:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read the above backwards... Thought it said low sugar inhibits cancer.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should edit your comment, a ton of people are thinking you mean ketosis causes cancer (it's actually the other way around, it lowers risk of cancer)
SanshaXII ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:19:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, high sugar/fat. Not normal.
sameoldshit1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:15:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've definitely seen articles that link diet to cancer. I heard recently (in a new scientist article) that cancer cells mainly metabolise sugar and not much else, so it would seem there's perhaps a link there.
As u/SanshaXII said though, I suppose a "normal" amount wouldn't have much of an impact.
[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 21:24:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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toqueville ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:06:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The brain and heart can use ketones for fuel. And the liver will just straight out make the glucose the other organs need. Ketogenic diets are still being studied in relationship to their affect on cancer.
Oh, and some cancers can metabolize ketones and lactate like the brain does.
hidonttalktome ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:51:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really wanna know what "lactate like the brain does" means. Please, it's driving me nuts.
VaneWimsey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:56:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The phrase that pays is "metabolize . . . lactate like the brain does."
Lactate in this case is a noun (and a direct object), not a verb.
hidonttalktome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I finally got that, but imagining a lactating brain was fun. Dang it.
bannana_surgery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know either, so here you go: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151124082233.htm
sameoldshit1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vary interesting, thank you :)
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those organs can function through glucose produced by gluconeogenesis. However I have no idea if the cancerous tumour would take priority, however evidence suggests that cutting all goods with a medium/high GI can reduce incidences of cancer.
dfgnsmnbdmnsv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cancer is, by definition, uncontrolled cell growth. Cells need energy to grow. Those growing faster need more energy, and any easily available excess energy (like sugar) is going to "benefit" them disproportionately. This is part of why cancer and diabetes have a significant correlation.
So yeah, if you get cancer you'd better eat healthy.
Sphen5117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe so, but that is a "high sugar/fat diet", not normal amounts.
VulcanHobo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember correctly, cancer cells generally have a higher metabolic rate? And that's why this notion about "feeding it sugar" exists. Shutting down your sugar intake when you have cancer could maybe slow down the cancer's growth rate.
ziburinis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because cancer cells have a higher metabolic rate doesn't mean that the cells grow faster on sugar.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
May be from just a general worse health than people with a normal-to-lower sugar/fat diet, which leads to a worse immune response.
blbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comes down, if it's true, to what the word "statistically significant " means. It's very common for articles to find measurable differences that have almost no practical impact. And to find things that have practical impact you can't prove. So when reading articles you have to very carefully validate that the described impact of something is actually meaningful or not on a practical level. Staying well fed and at a healthy weight with some exercise will have exponentially more impact on survival of diseases than some magical specific wonder diet. Unless you've got something like diabetes which is triggered by very specific metabolic factors.
But most diseases with such obvious causes have already been figured out and documented in the 1700s through the 1950s because the causes and effects are much simpler and more directly connected.
Alortania ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Note the doc (as quoted above) said normal amount, not high sugar
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In very specific cases as of now so don't cite it until it's in a medica journal
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
high sugar/fat diet, yeah. That totally makes sense. The comment above, however, mentions a normal amount of sugar or fat, not a high amount.
smugliberaltears ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:17:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was your dr. the professor from futurama?
SanshaXII ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:22:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, some really friendly dude with a loud, thick Montana accent.
smugliberaltears ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:36:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say that's good news for everyone
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 23:57:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THIS. One of my oldest friends has cancer and the last time I hung out with her, she told me she had recently seen a documentary saying that cancer likes sugar. She has a sweet tooth and enjoys donuts, but is not obese and has always had a generally good diet and been very fit. I wanted to hunt down whoever made that goddamn documentary and punch them in both eyes and the mouth for making her feel like it was her fault she had fucking CANCER for eating a goddamn cookie once in a while.
DrPoopyButt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:37:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cancer does like sugar, but yeah that cookie didn't cause it.
demostravius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eating sugar can have strange effects on the body. For example it can make you age slightly faster through production of AGE molecules (these make you feel stiff as you age and are a by product of glucose metabolism), it can also cause an increase in Reactive Oxygen Species which CAN (albeit very unlikely) cause cancer due to mutations, on top of that sugar directly fuels cancer cells, other cells can use different fuels if you don't eat any sugar (including sugars from bread, pasta, rice, grains, etc.) at all.
The odds of anything she ate having caused the cancer are astronomical, especially if she is young, however by cutting all sugars (including carbs) there is evidence to show it can slow down the advance of some cancers.
R3belZebra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:51:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watches a documentary that informs you cancer uses sugar.
I WANT TO HURT THE MAKER OF THE DOCUMENTARY BECAUSE THEY MADE MY FRIEND FEEL RESPONSIBLE FOR HER CANCER!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:32:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1) I didn't watch the documentary, my friend did. 2) Your characterization of it makes it sound like objective, dry scientific information. As the poster said above, ALL cells use sugar. Making a film saying that cancer, specifically, likes sugar is trying to give the impression that eating sweets causes cancer. 3) My friend has had cancer several times beginning in childhood. She is most definitely not responsible.
So yeah, it pissed me off when someone tries to make her feel as if it's her fault.
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and that now a simple pleasure she has is taken from her by fear
Awildbadusername ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you eliminate all sugars from the diet and everything that the body and readily process into sugars you will never get cancer for as long as you live. So like a month or two tops.
ageofpwnage ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:10:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty sure obscure cancer knowledge is not common knowledge that every adult is expected to know
BlumBlumShub ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:29:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem is that bullshit pseudoscience alternative healing sites like Mercola often tout the "cancer uses sugar" claim without any context.
Gravesh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best of luck to you, stranger! Glad to hear that you kicked cancer's ass! Hopefully it'll continue to fuck right off and stay that way. Horrible illness.
I-Am-Gaben-AMA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In fairness, if you receive no sugars then your chance of getting cancer is pretty low.
hubife13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you just stop eating the cancer will die!!!
Well, and you too.
QueenAnneBoleynTudor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My MIL has terminal colon, bone marrow, and breast cancer (yes, all at once). My FIL passed away in 2015 from a very aggressive form of leukemia.
She refuses to accept that she's terminal or that she needs treatment, and has instead decided that she'll go organic and vegan everything.
Yep. That'll cure ya. Flaxseed oil. Uh huh, that's why Dad died. Because he didn't drink enough. (No, really. This is what comes out of her mouth.)
No, I'm not going to mix paprika, cinnamon, and coconut oil to "cure" my epilepsy. There is no cure. Yes, you're right. It's the sugar in my creamer that's making it worse. Not the screwy neurological system or anything. NOOOPE.
Treyzania ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you cut out enough sugar(s) to kill cancer then you'd also end up killing healthy cells. With starvation.
MegaDarkwingDuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a bit more complex. The issue is that many cancer cells have damaged/dysfunctional mitochondria. Without functional mitochondria, a cell does not have the ability to burn fat as a fuel, but can still burn sugar via glycolysis. This is the Warburg effect, whereby many cancer cells thus primarily rely on carbs as a fuel. There are many clinical trials currently underway that employ this low carb, high fat, ketogenic approach. Data at this time seems to indicate that it is effective as an adjunct to chemo. Some of the major data is coming out of Phoenix Arizona at this time.
So yes, there is truth to this notion that "cancer runs on sugar", but a really low carb approach still needs to be combined with other modern treatments at this time.
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there are papers showing that low carb diets actually can reduce tumour growth...
Aken42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best of luck to you, I hope your treatments go well and you kick cancers ass.
Plus, enjoy the sugar.
cabothief ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... there were only two people in that conversation. You and your oncologist? Are you posting your own mistakes to this thread?
wizardeyejoe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Western medical doctors recieve about an hour of training in nutrition. Wealthy interests (Rockefellers and Rothschilds) systematically bought control of nearly all the American medical schools and medical journals to ensure that 'patent medicine' (i.e., that made in a chemistry lab) was the only type used in America. (because they owned the chemistry labs)
MouseyHousewife ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:07:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was diagnosed with cancer a few years ago my Dad started "researching" and had a list of various things he had seen on the internet. One of them was cancer cells feeding on sugar, to which I explained that ALL cells need sugar and it doesn't matter what type of sugar you eat it all gets converted into glucose.
He also seemed to think that cancer liked acidic blood and that I needed to alkalise it by eating certain food. I then explained that the body's pH levels should not be messed with and that if you changed the pH of your stomach fluid you'd die.
Thank god I took Biology & Chemistry at school.
Leprechorn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:38:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So in order to live, I need to only consume hydrochloric acid?
Costco1L ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:54:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wine really doesn't have much sugar in it. One glass contains on 2 to 4 grams of carbs. Alcohol itself is not a carbohydrate, though it is made from carbohydrates.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:51:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. It's even relatively safe for someone on keto. To screw it up you'd have to be drinking like... 2-3 1.5liter bottles a day.
shaggy99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Watch "sugar, the bitter truth" warning, IIRC it runs over an hour, and is pretty dense technically. TL:DW sugar and alcohol, any type sugar or alcohol, has the same affect when you eat or drink too much of it, it forms fatty deposits around the mid section, and is bad from a health point of view.
HexagonalClosePacked ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, isn't eating or drinking too much of anything bad from a health point of view? I think that's the definition of "too much" when it comes to food and drink...
shaggy99 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:11:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but the mechanism that deals with fructose and ethanol are very similar, and has a worse result that other forms of calories. The general direction of his argument is that the low fat craze was started by some bad studies, and following that low fat dictum has resulted in a high sugar movement instead. You take the fat out, a lot of processed foods taste like crap, so you put sugars in instead, and end up with an even more unhealthy product. I think his general recommendation is to watch total calorie consumption, and to avoid processed foods where you can.
Leprechorn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:36:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too much of anything is bad, yes. But when the experts tell you that should have more than half a pound of sugar a day (454g in a pound, 300g is the recommended daily intake), something might be a bit fucky.
Aggressivecleaning ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you live? Willy Wonka's factory?!
instantrobotwar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where in gods name did you read that? The recommended amount by the AHA is 36-25g or less (http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Sugar-101_UCM_306024_Article.jsp).
Costco1L ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:25:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look, that's just not true. Alcohol is fundamentally different in how your body reacts to it and processes it. For instance, carbs contain 4 calories per gram, alcohol has 7. They also have completely different effects on insulin.
shaggy99 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:41:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did I say anything about that? Watch the video, I don't have the education this guy has. My take away from it was that eating too much sugar, or drinking too much alcohol, deposits fat through the same mechanism. It's been a while, but my memory of it is that it is the excess caloric content when you eat or drink too much booze or sugars, that brings in this pathway. For myself, it was the fact that fat is not the evil that most people think it is that stuck with me.
I may be misremembering the details, still think it is an educational video.
librarychick77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's from 2009, that's not exactly current...
DrPoopyButt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:41:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if kidding, but this biochem hasn't changed much.
shahofblah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well of course alcohol has calories, but that is immaterial as it's not metabolised through a pathway tumourous cells can use. In that, it's just like fat.
shaggy99 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I was specifically responding to the post immediately above mine, which may not have made my point terribly relevant to the general discussion going on here. I was not really thinking about cancer cells, more about the end result of eating too much sugar, or drinking too much alcohol being the same, i.e. fat around your middle.
shahofblah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It must be assumed that /u/Costco1L was talking about cancer because that's what their parent, /u/1nquiringMinds was talking about. No one wrote anything about the caloric value of alcohol the entire comment tree up from you.
shaggy99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that's what I meant when I said my point was not that relevant to the general discussion. Sorry for going off at a tangent.
reverendbeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True for red wine but not all whites.
Leprechorn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true for all red wine either... there is such a thing as sweet red wine
badrussiandriver ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:37:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a raging alcoholic who denied he was an alcoholic. "It's just beer! Beer is the only thing that I drink" A 24 pack daily.
Mattsoup ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:47:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was his name Steve Jobs?
Klye14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FIL? ...Fiance in London?
murmalerm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:35:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Father in law
Tarudizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping I wasn't alone in being confused. Urban dictionary tells me it's either "fucking idiot liar" or "fake internet lesbian"
...might have to search a bit longer
SillyFlyGuy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The mental gymnastics the alcoholic will do to avoid having to give up alcohol knows no bounds.
aubreythez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... but white wine (even dry white wine) does taste sweet!
Especially ridiculous considering that he accepted that corn had a lot of sugar.
_northernlights ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:36:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At a grocery store/department store I worked at in high school, every Tuesday old folks from assisted living would come into buy their groceries. There was one guy on a scooter who's feet were basically falling off because of diabetes (some of the ladies liked to chat with us). They would normally get like 2 hours, so in that time he would eat a box or two donuts from the bakery. We would see him driving around hoovering them down. Eventually a nurse would come in with him because it got so bad.
Cowboywizzard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the Steve Jobs approach.
Itsthelongterm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
omg I feel guilty drinking more than two glasses of wine....this is nearly a gallon per day. What a life.
JasonDJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funny thing here is that a lot of wine...especially white wine...isn't vegan.
Dioxycyclone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. Vegetarian here who would go vegan if I got cancer. You don't do that instead of treatment but alongside it.
I don't understand why you would refuse treatment.
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair modest drinking of very dry wine has very very little sugar compared to corn or sweeter wine
griffton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "cutting out all sugar" part's not a bad idea. If you manage to shift away from carbs enough to kick yourself into ketogenic metabolism, it has been shown to have some effect on cancer.
Hawkguy85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't see if anyone else asked this, but how did he do? Did he recover?
mechapoitier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit I thought I had a problem drinking 1/3 of that on a wild Saturday.
eazolan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hm. So the best way I would prove it would be to boil the water and alcohol out of a bottle of wine.
solblurgh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smdh - shake my dickhead?
CrossBreedP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he... Is he still alive?
1nquiringMinds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, but hes a disaster.
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea about prostate cancer, but brain tumours HAVE been shown to stop growing and in some cases even recede simply by cutting out all carbs from your diet. This is because the tumours need glucose to grow, and cutting out carbs switches your body from using glucose to ketone bodies as fuel.
Obviously though doctor first, and get some real treatment.
1nquiringMinds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but that's not the problem with his logic, is it? The problem is "no I absolutely can't eat that salsa that has some corn in it, but lemme drink ~3-5 liters of wine a day."
demostravius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is some quite impressive head in the sand!
plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ugh. such stay at home mom bullshit
111Ireth997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A family friend had breast cancer and actually a good prognosis but she insisted that she would not follow "orthodox medicine" but rather trust some kind of esoteric faith healer and change her diet. She died from this shit in the end. It was a main reason why I became a sceptic and have zero tolerance for esoteric bullshit. Not so her husband. He married an even bigger esoteric, who is much into crystal healing.
casual_awesome ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 22:06:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Just yesterday my dad and I were laughing at an article in a magazine which listed some of the names sugars in food could be 'hiding' behind. I was expecting a list like dextrose, fructose, etc. The list was actually: brown sugar, raw sugar, coconut sugar... Essentially everything had the word sugar in it.
Turns out some people do actually need this pointed out to them...Go figure.
McStaken ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 20:26:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Tell me again sir why your toes can't possibly be rotting off?"
NotAdamSiska ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:23:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"SIR, I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT A TOE PERSON, YOU'RE REFUSING TO HELP ME SO I'M GOING TO HANG UP"
tylerchu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ma'am, your foot is dried and blacked and there are maggots crawling through it. I think Jesus wants it to be amputated.
_themaninacan_ ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:14:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damned chianti is so dry, where's my brown sugar?
buttery_shame_cave ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:30:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in his defense, the drier the wine the less residual sugars it has from fermentation.
doesn't mean dick about any of the other stuff.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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buttery_shame_cave ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:30:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
generally you can avoid being redundant by reading beyond the first line of a comment.
you can avoid repeating a point someone made by reading the entire comment.
and because i'm saucy: alcohol doesn't give you diabetes. it gets you intoxicated. long-term exposure to alcohol, however, has a lot of health consequences, one of which can be diabetes(if you're at risk), due to the long-term blood chemical imbalances.
Amelaclya1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wine does have a surprisingly low sugar content though. It's something like 4g of carbs/glass. With ~1g of that being actual sugar. I don't know how much diabetics are allowed, but he was at least partially right about that one.
Sarastrasza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dry whites have 4 grams per litre, usually
Jawshee_pdx ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:29:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not.
OtherKindofMermaid ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:04:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. Sugar does not give you diabetes.
crwcomposer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless he was fat because he thought brown sugar was not sugar and used it all the time.
Sugar doesn't cause diabetes, but obesity greatly increases your risk.
merdeauxfraises ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:54:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dietitian here. I have to explain both of these every week.
doricoforme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my boss at subway that the white bread sub buns DO have wheat in them. he told a customer that was gluten intolerant that the bread wasn't made with wheat. I asked him what he thought it was made of then. he just kind of sheepishly said 'I dunno'. still, the lady with celiac should have known.
bucketofboilingtears ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:33:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diabetic patients are the most stubborn. We treat a lot of diabetics, and many of them just don't care about changing their diet at all. Then, one of them has have a leg amputated and he complains that his home nurse didn't change the bandages properly ... it was definitely not because he drinks too much and eats horribly
Ungodlydemon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:08:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...sigh.
Rpizza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well dry red wine has very little sugar 2-3 grams as opposed to other sweeter wines that have 12-19 grams of sugar
tipsana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister just spent her holidays with her SIL who required her to cook all meals without sugar, because she's trying to live sugar-free, but went through 2 bottles of wine each night.
madpoontang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:12:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why dont americans say nurse, and not nurse practitioner?
SMTTT84 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:36:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because they are two different levels of education.
madpoontang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:13:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, haha
horses_for_courses ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:53:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are Registered Nurses and Nurse Practitioners. Both administer care to patients, but nurse practitioners (NPs) are required to have more technical education, and therefore can perform some medical procedures.
smallof2pieces ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:25:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A nurse is different from a nurse practitioner. An NP is a masters level degree and they can write scripts and see patients much like a doctor can.
bestjakeisbest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
its called a shmorgishvine and it is elegantly cultural
clocks212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I could never be in the medical field because I would never argue with these people. My response to their idiocy would be "/shrug ok"
emilizabify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, in his defense, consuming sugar doesn't directly cause type 2 diabetes. Genetics, coupled with environmental factors and poor lifestyle(such as obesity) combine to cause insulin resistance, which can lead to type 2 diabetes. Of course, weight gain is caused by over consumption of carbohydrates...
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:50:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still made from fruit dumbass.
lastjabberwocky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, alcohol lowers your blood sugar.
Bubbie_The_Whale ยท 509 points ยท Posted at 23:37:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I remember my friend telling me about this woman, in college, who could not grasp the fact that having unprotected sex while pregnant does not get the fetus pregnant.
bluedanes ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:39:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If that's true then explain this
TeaAndTacos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:48:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:00:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YEP, PERFECTLY VALID REACTION!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Tarudizer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Woman 1: "I had sex with Billy"
Woman 2: "But you were already pregnant!"
Woman 1: "Yeah, so what's the worst that could happen?"
"We interrupt Pregnant Baby with breaking news"
(From Rick and Morty, LITERALLY just watched the episode before reading your post, hah)
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[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:39:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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malonkey1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:45:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are some cultures who sincerely hold that belief, but I doubt said BF is a part of said cultures.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:42:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wowwwwww!!!!!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Inception fetus!
ItalianDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"For Christ's sake Brenda it's a baby, not a matryoshka !"
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
having sex with a preggo woman is one of my fetishes
Uchihakengura42 ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 03:29:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaactually.... As unlikely as it seems, pregnant babies have happened before. How it happens, is a mystery to medicine by the articles I've read however the theory is that within 13 weeks, after gender is decided, ovaries are already capable of taking on sperm and becoming fertilized.
A baby born in Hong Kong was pregnant with her own siblings at the time of her birth, according to a new report of the infant's case.
The baby's condition, known as fetus-in-fetu, is incredibly rare, occurring in only about 1 in every 500,000 births. It's not clear exactly why it happens.
yeah-what ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:08:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is far more likely to be a case of a dermoid cyst or a twin pregnancy gone wrong than an actual pregnant fetus. Eggs don't develop and release from ovaries until puberty. Among other problems with this idea.
PraiseMuadDib ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm gonna need a source on that because that sounds like total bullshit.
hockeypup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is bullshit. It's a twin pregnancy gone wrong, not a baby getting pregnant.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2810823/
Rydralain ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:50:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go ahead and pop that one right into the google and check out the wiki article or something real quick for me.
Uchihakengura42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wikipedia isn't a reliable source of information.
Rydralain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you might be one of the nitwits who use that excuse when Wikipedia disagrees with you, which is why I didn't link to it and included 'or something' in there. The scientific article that is the second result there talking about it being when one twin is inside the other is probably more reliable though, if you had taken 3 seconds to try not being wrong.
Rydralain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, I encourage you to read this article about a study by Nature, a peer reviewed scientific journal, on the reliability of Wikipedia vs The Encyclopedia Britannica that concluded, through peer review, that they are approximately equal. While you can dispute the reliability of any individual source, all sources are fallible and it's unreliability all the way down.
Edit: Although, based on you actually referencing it yourself I'm guessing you know that already and you are just a troll.
hockeypup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fetus-in-fetu is a thing, but it's not the baby getting pregnant! What happens is, there was supposed to be identical twins, but one was wrapped up in the other. It's more of an internal parasitic twin. It's not a pregnancy. For heaven's sake, boys have been found to have fetus-in-fetu.
lowkey_audiophile ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 03:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a pre-pharm student. But I once had a really bad stomachache, so my dad grab that Asian green oil stuff that smells like menthol and start rubbing my abdomen violently with the stuff. I adamantly suggested that we should hit the ER because I might have appendicitis, then I finally found out that neither mom or dad knows what an appendix is. Then they argue with me that no such thing exist and insisted on using their method. Obviously it didn't worked and my appendix exploded. Fun times.
Lequanta ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Arg feels bad when you have the knowledge but nobody believes you
adevilnguyen ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:53:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dau xanh (green oil) can fix ANYTHING!
ValaskaReddit ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:33:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you die? D:
lowkey_audiophile ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 03:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the inside? Yes
norsish ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, man...you really don't want your appendix to explode. You should try to avoid that in the future. I mean, assuming they exist. I still think you might be making it all up.
Siannath ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What happened when your appendix exploded? How old were you?
lowkey_audiophile ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I raged at my parents to call 911 immediately, then I passed out from the pain and woke up after the surgery was done. I was 16.
ArmaDolphins ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:31:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I REALLY want to know how the conversation went when you woke up.
norsish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:09:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Passing out was the right choice. Being awake for an exploded appendix is no way to go.
ColdCornSparkles ยท 738 points ยท Posted at 23:27:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but still this gem from a client: "cancer and HIV are caused by allergic reactions to things around you, so drink bentonite clay everyday and your body will purge itself of the allergens and you'll be cured".
I've never been more stunned. This woman was about 35 and has two kids. Yikes.
Ladyice426 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 00:41:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kids were probably not vaccinated.
ColdCornSparkles ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:51:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct. She also told me in detail about how vaccines pump aluminum and flouride into the blood stream which would lead to autism and seizures. She said as well that she won't vax because doctors can treat any disease anyway.
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save_the_last_dance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:37 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors tried. It was called eugenics. We don't talk about that anymore.
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icer816 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 09:06:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like the percentage of vaccinated people with autism is about the same as the percentage of unvaccinated people with autism! People seem to not get that and, even if it was causation (not even correlation, let's say vaccines could cause autism), I'd rather have an autistic child who is alive than a dead child that died from not being vaccinated.
radioactivemelanin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THANK YOU. A lot of people point out how fucked up it is that parents would literally rstwhr their kids die from something completely preventable than POSSIBLY have an autistic kid. There's just so many levels of WTF with anti Vaxers.
OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does it not occur to people like her that, if vaccines are so harmful, it sure is weird that the vast majority of the vaccinated public do not have autism or seizures?
SquidCap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:10:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. There are several things in action at the same time. One of the largest is our fear of making an active decision, instead of passive one.. Meaning, not doing something means you will not fail at that task; doing something means you take the responsibility of your actions also if they fail. On passive decision, you don't literally do anything and if something happens, it happened regardless of your actions... Notice how close this line of thinking goes with this kind of people who don't believe in other active decisions like climate change, where activity means taking economical risk, changing your own habits in on an off chance we may be able to carry on as a species.
Add misinformation, poor education and general conspiracy mentality (where almost everything is out of your hands, there is some secret all powerful thing you have no power to fight them as they are literally all around you..).. It is a swamp of denial, fallacies, complex mental issues, faith and circular logic rolled into one neat ball. Facts that contradict, such as the percentage of people with and without that treatment only makes them believe more (also, frankly, these people do not understand that 3 out 100 is more than 10 out of 1000, percentages mean nothing to them. They've read dozens of cherry picked statistics along with credible ones and see no difference; they simply do not understand but pretend they do and will NOT admit they have no clue about it.. By large majority, just really, really dumb and do not want to get any wiser. That last part makes me steam out of my ears, it is ok to not know but it is not ok to refuse to learn.
nosleepatall ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:55:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have met a few people like this. Some people just seem to lack certain neuronal wirings in the brain that make them eat any conspiracy theory like candy. "Evil doctors and big pharma have an interest in keeping you sick, but check out this quackery I discovered."
All4one75 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:08:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"They take alex jones dna supplements everyday so im sure its just as good" /s
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:58:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told by someone at work that cancer is caused by thinking about cancer too much, which is why, for instance, you shouldn't get cancer screenings (this person had just read The Secret).
This was about two months after I'd finished chemo, and I'd been wearing a very expensive wig to hide treatment from a lot of people. 1) that wig was worth every penny and 2) I have a darn good poker face
because_zelda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read and watched the secret, it shouldn't be taken literally
jaggington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me, I'd have taken off the wig and said "Your stupidity gave me cancer".
radioactivemelanin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was raised on that kind of bullshit man, I can't tell you how much hate I have towards that kind of stuff. But it's good to see normal people calling it out for exactly what it is.
cutspaper ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:43:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a shit-ton of moms just like this! No, no colloidal silver in my coffee, thanks.
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save_the_last_dance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You say that, but for all you know, this was always, always the real her and she was just faking it before.
radioactivemelanin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg my mom tries to put that crap in literally everything.
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ColdCornSparkles ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:52:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol I see what you did there haha. And no, she gets her info from those click bait conspiracy websites about medical stuff so she told me that everything I know is a lie
tritonice ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:22:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Steve Jobs cancer regimen!
sbxcr ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:58:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*Accidentally ingested bentonite once, and the only thing left of me was regret. Can't imagine doing it on purpose.
Bleecghhh!
divajedi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:28:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the "Wellness Mama"
cbattlegear ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:43:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This really brings rub some dirt on it to a new, depressing level.
MeanSolean ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:39:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like she was thinking of Lynks Disease.
patentolog1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is that for constipation?
Brassens71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Watch out for that processed food, it's evil! Now please drink this mud that I have for sale."
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This House Has People In It" is not a documentary...
Treczoks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no pill to cure stupid...
save_the_last_dance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...drink...clay...everyday?
I put that shit on my face for Patrick Bateman level skincare reasons. Who in their right mind would willingly ingest something that basic? That shit has a PH level SATP of 9, you should not ingest something that is so alkaline everyday. Drinking bentonite clay is like drinking a baking soda smoothie. What the hell is she thinking?
ColdCornSparkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the bentonite clay face mask as well and I was equally shocked.
Offensiveplant ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:05:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way. That's so fucking retarded..
nipplequeen69 ยท 1231 points ยท Posted at 22:39:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my university tutors had to explain how sex worked to a married couple.
They had come into the clinic wondering why they hadn't fallen pregnant after like 12 months of marriage. The doctor asked the usual questions about menstruation, erections, etc, and the patients' responses were a bit weird. Finally she was like, "you are having vaginal sex, yeah?"
The couple were really confused. The doctor literally had to explain that one partner needs to put their penis in the other's vagina and ejaculate, in order to even try at getting pregnant. Apparently they were so shocked! They thought pregnancy just happened by itself after marriage.
charrcheese ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 00:55:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What always amazes me about these stories is that both partners are confused
ilikedirigibles ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 05:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well to be fair we wouldn't ever hear about the ones where one partner knows and is able to explain it to the confused one. I bet there are a lot more of those out there.
TheTartanDervish ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:50:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What gets me is the "fall pregnant" like you trip and land on an erect dick and poof pregnant?
Vardoj ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 01:35:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How strong was their indoctrination that it completely repressed their biological instincts?
Parallax151 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 17:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. It's programmed in our DNA how to fuck. As soon as I knew women had vaginas I figured out that sex was the penis going into the vagina. When I finally masturbated and ejaculated I quickly put the math together on how sex works.
You have to be FORCED to not know what sex is to be THAT ignorant.
Dogzillas_Mom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:25:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you do that by convincing people that sex is bad, dirty, dangerous, and if you do it, you will never be forgiven, you won't go to heaven, and nobody decent will ever want you. You jack up the shame and guilt to 11 and collect the tithing. $$ Profit!
JasonSpano ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:41:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side - I feel like they both would have been in for lovely surprise when they finally got around to completing that strange alien voodoo ritual.
dragon34 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:43:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
maybe eventually, but if they hadn't figured it out in a year, they were probably not even making out and I bet it was TERRIBLE, and probably super painful for the wife.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:44:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lack of sex ed is so depressing. Don't blame this couple for their ignorance, it is completely on their parents. And most likely a very conservatively religious upbringing.
nipplequeen69 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:52:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I completely agree. I can't imagine how embarrassed they must have been, not to know something so simple and important. I hope they learn from their parents' mistakes, and give their kids comprehensive education about sex.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our bodies are God's Miracle. If you are a good person, everything will be fine. If you do evil, or have evil thoughts, God will punish you. God will reveal his mystery to you if and when He feels you are ready. That's all you need to know.
Some people actually believe that. And they aren't bad people, they just don't know better. I'm sure /u/nipplequeen69 will have children well versed in sex ed. ;)
vengefulmuffins ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 23:36:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Utah? This has to be Utah, Mormonism is the only explanation for this level of naivety.
AcrolloPeed ยท 278 points ยท Posted at 23:51:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love how the two greatest stereotypes for Mormons are that
they are such prudes that they don't know about sex
have as many children as they possibly can and many Mormon families rent a hotel room for newlyweds to use between the ceremony and reception so they can get started on procreating ASAP.
It's like the "All Mexicans are hard workers" and "All Mexicans are lazy" dichotomy. Fucking pick one
Delanium ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 00:02:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same stereotype for any incredibly religious group, I think. My cousins are Catholic, and I had to give my oldest cousin The Talk when she was 14 because her parents refused to talk about it. She even asked because she at least had a vague idea of the concept, and they told her to never talk about that again.
A year later, I had to expand on it when I realized she thought you only had sex once, on your wedding night, and that was that.
And then I had to expand on it more because she thought that birth control and abortion were the same thing. (Though that one was taught by her parents). I made sure to go over all aspects of the reproductive system that time.
In hindsight I should probably have been more thorough the first time, but I was only 15.
BarkingLeopard ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:35:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the same comments in your two points are also made about ultra-Orthodox Jews. Extreme prudes, keep the sexes separated in public, etc, etc, yet average family size is something like 7 or 9 kids.
littlestghoust ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 00:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume Mormons don't know about sex AND have lots of children due to lack of sex education.
ADDeviant ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 00:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Raised Mormon in Utah.
Mormons in general are MORE educated than average for the country they live in. I have never met one, not even in HS, who didn't know at least that sex involved intercourse. Those that I have met come from places like boondocks-Central Mexico. The closest I ever came was an 18 year old girl who had never seen a penis, or even a picture and we had to draw for her the difference between circumcised and not.
There is a HELL of a lot of talk, within the church, about sex, what it is and isn't, when and where is appropriate, why it's so important to marriage, etc.....Mormons believe that sex is a reflection of God's power to create life, and that USING that ability appropriately (within marriage) brings us closer to God, and makes us more like God, which is the goal. It's not because they don't understand how it happens. They have so many kids literally because they do know, and think it's the right thing to do, and want to.
I'm sure exceptions exist, but Mormons are actually a little hung up on sex, they just believe that their version of "it" is the right one.
IronDBZ ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:38:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an inverse relationship between respect and sects
I'm talking 'bout religious sects like a Mormon sect
That says you can't have sex with members of different sects
But you can't have sex with members of the same sex
So if the sects can't be different, the sex can't be same
Then the only sex left is some left hand shame
comealongrissy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:29:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I appreciate your Bo Burnham reference
TurtleTape ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:06:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bo Burnham references don't happen often enough.
ADDeviant ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:49:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You write that?
land8844 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 01:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You assume wrong. I am Mormon and was raised in UT (I sorely miss the mountains in my backyard. Here in NY, while nice, the Adirondacks barely count in my opinion), but my parents taught all 4 of us kids about sex early-on in a very practical manner. Including porn and masturbation. My dad even gave me the "she will bleed a little bit the first time" talk, and then went on to talk about his first time with my mom and how they had to call her mom because she bled... Yeah, not the kind of imagery that I wanted from my parents, but they were very loving and relatively open about this kind of stuff.
You should watch some of the talks by Jeffery R. Holland (one of the 12 Apostles in our church). He is also very open about this kind of stuff.
shannibearstar ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What nonsense. Bleeding is not something that happens to everyone. Or even most women who were active.
Hymens stretch. The can rip and tear, but for the most part it's a stretchy membrane.
GrumbIRK ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really nonsense though. It isn't uncommon for a virgin to bleed the first time, and I think that is good advice to give a child. Expecting that it could occur is way more comforting than not, and freaking out during sex when you pull out and there's blood.
iznotiz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't seem to realize that you're describing the very issue you're attempting to debunk.
AcrolloPeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...you've never experienced any cognitive dissonance from those two thoughts?
littlestghoust ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:12:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, sex education usually includes family planning whereas abstinence only does not.
AcrolloPeed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, but I'm not talking about abstinence-only, I'm talking about not teaching a kid about sex at all and actively sheltering them from learning anything about sex
littlestghoust ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since your original comment was about stereotypes and NOT a particular situation, you shouldn't be surprised that people are giving board remarks about it.
GamerAtHeart7 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:47:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Raised Mormon here, no longer practicing.
Literally did not get the sex talk from my mom until I was 18 (a little too late, lost it at 16), but A for effort? Haha. I just don't think she knew how to approach the situation.
Edit: learned everything long before "the talk" from my friends. Thank goodness for helpful friends hahaha.
solowife11 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:28:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Married to a Mexican, they are both! He works hard at work, but at home I can't get him to do a damn thing! Been begging for him to clean the garage for weeks.
AcrolloPeed ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 04:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not because he's a Mexican, it's because he's a husband.
Source: am also a husband
solowife11 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems I have misdiagnosed my problem
AcrolloPeed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most husbands know that work work needs to get done or they'll lose pay or get fired, but if wife work gets delayed... maybe we'll sleep on the couch or you'll burn dinner on purpose, but men like the couch and burned food.
simcowking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's why we marry. It's hard to burn dinner if you're never cooking.
Spazmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:49 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, I have a Canadian one of those.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:40:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The former causes the latter
Source: live in Utah and have Mormon family
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having many children and being sexually conservative are not mutually exclusive whatsoever.
005Peach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's both, sadly.
paraworldblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can have plenty of sex without knowing anything more than the absolute basics about it. The couple who thought "rubbers" meant rubber bands, for instance.
nipplequeen69 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:26:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah mate, I'm Australian
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mormon here. I can see your point about Utah mormons, Utah culture is...different. But generally speaking, outside of Utah mormons are not like that. Aure, you'll see it here and there, but we're exposed to the same stuff at school, and in life, as anyone else. And educating your children properly is definitely important to Mormons.
vengefulmuffins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of the outside of Utah Mormons I've met seem pretty normal. This was actually more so directed at FLDS Mormons. Those people freak me out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ok. You know, I've never actually met someone from the FLDS. Have you talked to many?
vengefulmuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an aunt who married into it. I don't have much to do with her anymore, but the whole thing is just really bizarre.
sexualcatperson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree it happens but numerous guys I met who was not Mormon and found out that I was checking out the Lds Church made comments about how freaky Mormon girls are.
Crechum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mormon here. I was raised in a near 100% mormon town. We got taught sex ed in class like everyone else. Even got taught about sex by my mother, including birth control. It's not something we hide from our children. It's something we teach them to use responsibly.
carlycarly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:39:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw a similar post above. Maybe you had the same professor.
nipplequeen69 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe! Unfortunately, I think it's more likely that there are just heaps of uninformed people out there.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:30:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a thing I was told when I was very, very young. How the fuck does someone go beyond the age of 12 or 13 without learning that ya gotta fuck to have a kid?
yoiforgotmypassword1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty sure this is the second mention of (hopefully the same incident) in this thread
pogra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so sad that this same story has come up multiple times in this thread. I don't know if I'm mad at the society that raised them or think they just aren't very bright. You HAVE to have picked up on sex at some point. Watch any movie or book or anything!
Passing4human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FWIW, Snopes claims that this is an urban legend, and cites a 2004 case that was incorrectly reported in the mainstream press.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read these stories and think "One person, I can understand, but the couple..."
ahchava ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is way more common than it should be. I also have women of mariable age who think that once you have sex the one time, you can continue to get pregnant for years after, even if let's say your husband is deployed, or he died or you got divorced and haven't slept with anyone, ect. Basically that once his "seed" is in you, you can (and will) just spontaneously get pregnant with his children until you're too old to have kids.
DukeMaximum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I hear these kind of stories, im reminded of the novel Catch-22.
IcedJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I enjoy your use of the term "fallen pregnant" like "fallen ill."
Barbieheels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of that one couple in the TV show Masters of sex who were like "doctor, we must have some sort of infertility problems" and he was like "ok, what positions have you tried?" And they were like "we lie together every night, just like the bible says!" And he eventually got down to the fact that they would literally just lie down next to each other in bed and hope to get pregnant lol
SilverVixen1928 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mormon?
bradkrit ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just let them stay confused. That is a good bloodline to let end.
nipplequeen69 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:09:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope this is a joke.
Everyone has the right to be informed about their sexual/reproductive health. This couple were victims of a system which stigmatises sex to the point where basic education is considered controversial or "dirty". They did the right thing, by seeing a doctor to ask about their reproductive health.
Edgy comments like yours aren't very funny or helpful.
hellomireaux ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 01:23:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard about a woman who came into the ER with vaginal bleeding. When they took a peek up there, they found a number of small round white pills. She learned two things that day:
1) She was pregnant
2) Birth control works best when taken orally
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:25:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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hellomireaux ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:58:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Great advice! Might as well pop your Prozac and a multivitamin in there while you've got the snatch hatch open.
SnArL817 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:37:26 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
snatch hatch
SNATCH HATCH
I'm dying over here!
hazykoala ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:10:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yikes. that made my vag cringe.
oregongrown92 ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 02:01:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but worked in urgent care for a long time as a tech. Had a woman in her 30's come in for vaginal bleeding and and abd pain. She was afraid she was pregnant and having a miscarriage due to a single missed dosage of birth control. Bleeding x 2 days; cramping; negative HCG; no recent sexual activity. Last menstrual period approximately 4 weeks ago... it was her period.
Edit: spelling
A_Drusas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:51 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's sad for her ignorance and also because she probably had dysmenorrhea, which can be incredibly painful. Definitely painful enough for a person to think something's seriously wrong.
oregongrown92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:49 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fortunately for her that wasn't the case, she was just under educated in regard to her birth control and overall sexual health.
A_Drusas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:13 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is quite fortunate, at least in regards to her physical health.
blake41185 ยท 15085 points ยท Posted at 21:13:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my human sexuality professor in grad school had some interesting stories. He worked a lot in very conservative Christian communities and so a lot of times people got married with no sex education. He had one couple who couldn't get pregnant. Turns out they thought sleeping together literally meant sleeping in the same bed. Another couple was in therapy because neither one of them enjoyed sex or ever had an orgasm. After having them talk through step by step what they did in bed, he learned the guy was just sticking it in and nothing else. He told the guy to move back and forth next time and see what happened. They couple came back one more time to say "THANK YOU!!!!!" and didn't need any more sessions.
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 7324 points ยท Posted at 21:32:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That second story is probably my favorite in the thread, thank you.
WJ90 ยท 1666 points ยท Posted at 23:56:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's kind of cute in a way. I could get down with just being inside my partner and holding them close.
daemon_service ยท 2770 points ยท Posted at 01:22:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Go Mormon then. "Soaking" is supposedly a way to have sex outside of marriage because their god is a T-rex and only sees movement.
PNWRoamer ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 01:39:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So he's chill with oral, anal, and full vaginal penetration as long as you stay still. Seems like a pretty kinky dude.
rathryon ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 01:41:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's...not a thing. It might be something certain Mormon people tell themselves, but it has nothing to do with Mormon teachings.
Justice_Prince ยท 320 points ยท Posted at 02:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's just a weird rumor that circulates around young Morman's the same way some Catholics think anal doesn't count.
bonobosonson ยท 238 points ยท Posted at 02:43:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anal doesn't count though, my priest told me
Br00kinator ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 02:50:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Told you, or showed you?
bonobosonson ยท 193 points ยท Posted at 02:51:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was behind me, so technically I didn't get showed anything
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 02:59:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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jihiggs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:26:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
trust me, Jesus was not there.
TimeTravelMishap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's to busy hanging with hookers
jihiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and tax collectors
eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya he was, Jesus is the Mexican janitor that cleans up all the sweat, cum, poop, and blood from the confession booth.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
12, but they were called something different.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Daddy
Castun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, he even washed the condom beforehand! I swear!
bonobosonson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit. I didn't know it was an orgy. Now I feel tainted :(
goldenboy2191 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:16 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus isn't taking questions on that subject.
Mr_Canard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, you only got shoved something.
daemon_service ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:14:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only shoved something.
GreatBabu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't even cradle his balls? For shame.....
bonobosonson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:51:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was behind me, so technically I didn't get showed anything
bonobosonson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:51:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was behind me, so technically I didn't get showed anything
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:16:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that's the joke. Also OP is an 8 year old boy
chrisfrat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:20:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the good ol poophole loophole
b0ules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was altar boy, can confirm.
alltoocliche ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:10:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a thing? I am a former catholic and was taught that basically anything that was sexy was bad unless you are married, and then only baby making practices were allowed.
probablyhrenrai ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 03:38:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, no; anal, oral, vaginal, handjobs, fingering, all of that's considered adultery. Basically if what you're doing is meant to give one or both of you an orgasm, it counts as sex.
This is also why masturbation, iirc, is considered adultery. That one never made sense to me.
outerdrive313 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:09:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, even thinking about having sex with someone else is considered adultery.
pyroSeven ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what if I was thinking about my mom?
SnatchAddict ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:10:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget thinking about it is as bad as doing it.
pyroSeven ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:50:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well at that point, might as well do it.
SnatchAddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The old Catholic plight
Transientmind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:39:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was onanism to blame for anti-jackin' it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so what about edging?
Is that not adultery? I mean, get really close, then stop.
Christ, the Catholics have it bad.
the_number_2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:30:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As long as we feel guilty for anything that gives us even mild amusement then we're basically in the clear.
goldenboy2191 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:16 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Masturbating is considered adultery? Are you for real? I'm genuinely curious about this now!
Mr_Canard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If Jesus knew he would be pissed.
Justice_Prince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how true it is, but it is the stereotype.
The_Salaminizer ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's God's blind spot.
Justice_Prince ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:07:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
His brown eye.
WikiWantsYourPics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alalalalalong...
fetusburgers ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:30:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear that from evangelicals. Not Catholics.
Source: Born and raised catholic. Went to catholic school for almost ten years.
circuital14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard that from my Catholic parents, but not from the Catholic schools I went to my whole life
Hyperhavoc5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:37:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a buddy at one of the big Mormon colleges in the US, and apparently it's something that kids talk about doing a lot. He said he's never done it but he knows a few people that claim to have done it.
BaconatedGrapefruit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catholic here. We know anal counts we just want to justify our intense booty lust.
goldenboy2191 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:04 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Catholic also here: can confirm the looting of thine booty.
Mrfixite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God's loophole...
chux4w ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The poophole loophole.
rathryon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:32:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're right
louismagoo ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 03:30:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to BYU. It was one of those things that people joked about, but nobody really believed it.
Castun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with joking about this shit, is that some too-sheltered person is guaranteed to come along and not realize it's a joke. The problem multiplies when more than 1 said person falls for it.
lenaro ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can't imagine any Mormons really think T-Rexes can only see movement. That would just be stupid.
Endless_Facepalm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:39:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents have friends from their Mormon church who legitimately believe that Jewish people place dinosaur bones as part of a satanic conspiracy. They say that because noone knows how to put the bones together you know it's all a hoax
crystalistwo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course that's not a thing. That would be absurd to believe.
PlatypusPuncher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you read the Book of Mormon? Would fall in line with some do the crazier parts of that story too.
goldenboy2191 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:40 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does listening to the musical count?
Ragnrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that the things people of a religion do matter even more than what their scripture says.
Noservant ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The term "soaking" makes me both rock hard, and bums me out at the same time.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure "soaking" isn't exclusive to Mormons, there is no need to convert to a cult just for a sex move.
louismagoo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:31:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, but wait until we teach you the REAL secret sex move. You want to know why Mormons are so nice? It's cuz we have the best sex. You know. Probably.
BlinkyGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But there isn't any moving. That's the point. Hell, it's barely even sex!
OccasionallyWitty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:08:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Praise be to his lizardy benevolence
notkoreytaube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I saw this on a show of breaking amish. It was at like a marriage training class for mennonites.
jaredsglasses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me spit on my phone. Thank you for the laugh but I have saliva in my speaker now
Edit: words
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:43:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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daemon_service ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, good luck sleeping now.
Persiano123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
El_Q ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wat
draginator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe you... But I don't know enough about mormonism to refute you.
yolo-swaggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, king of kings sounds like the title of a tyrant.
seink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this....this cannot be real....no fking way...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my new favorite comment
Pinoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this commented so many times. Each time I read it I'm the same level of baffled.
shazarakk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
Faerhun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit this made my day, thank you.
DavyShipps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always heard the term floating but I like yours better
pres82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly with the mormons I have no idea if you're joking or if it's a real thing.
GrantRusticus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The church still recognize it as sex and treats it as sex outside of marriage, this is just a common excuse a lot of the youth use to justify having sex with each other. I guess it's supposed to ease their conscience?
JohnathanTeatime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not really
Twin2Win ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would give gold if I could...wow that was funny as fuck! Thank you!
valueape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean soaking it in cider?
HotTyre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she has good kegel training discipline it could be enough.
imghurrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dum dum dum dum dum
worlddictator85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That term is intensely upsetting.
brufleth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
T-Rex God is watching you soak, and he sees nothing!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about T-Rex's to dispute it.
PragmaticMoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was one of my favorite scenes on the Alpha House tv show.
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 00:42:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Marry me
PNWRoamer ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:36:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ay man some of my best memories with my gf of 4 years is just staying still, cuddling and making out for a good bit.
No need to always rush into everything.
PenelopeMarsh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as " 4 years of staying still..." can't stop laughing.
LittleChurch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely done this a few times. He once put his head on my shoulder to cuddle and we fell asleep that way without actually getting to the sex bit that night - one of my favorite memories.
Indosay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my fiancรฉe and I first started sleeping over, we'd do this sometimes. Well, sorta. We'd spoon with me behind her and inside her with totally just intending on staying that way (why? I dunno, because?) but of course that didn't last longer than a couple minutes ever.
vote100binary ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:45:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cool story bro
PetrRabbit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:43:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but what I don't really get about this is that people have been having sex for thousands and thousands of years without having to be educated about what it is. Hell, my cat never took a class, but when she went into heat she followed my roommate around for weeks with her butt in the air...
Beer-Wall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You think that's cute? To me, it's really sad people are becoming adults and not knowing basic functions of their bodies because their religion is restrictive.
toplessbooks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have done this, can confirm it can be deeply intimate and very cute
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gross
ElephantsHoldGrudges ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll do this with my partner sometimes. Granted, it often leads to sex anyway but it's kind of nice to be close and comfortable like that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
all of them?
outerdrive313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fail to see what's cute about this.
ikilledtupac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not true.
Billybilly_B ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Marinate
istara ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 01:08:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember being quite mystified when I read the "Human Reproduction" chapter in Biology 11-13 that "the man moves his penis rhythmically in and out of the vagina".
WHY?!
I thought I knew everything about sex - we had all surreptitiously read Judy Blume's Forever and my mother was very open with me about sex and puberty - but somehow the guy actually moving it about had passed me by.
AccountWasFound ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was like 15 and a half when I found out girls can get pleasure from sex, and my mom has given me the sex talk like 5 different times, she had just assumed that I knew girls could orgasm. But nope I found that out by watching Laci Green videos when I was almost 16, after googling of girls could have orgasms, because a couple of my guy friends were bragging about how good they were at oral and I didn't believe them when they said girls could have orgasms (I'm female btw)...
stackered ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 22:16:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
takes just the tip to a whole new level
Raz0rking ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 22:03:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Move your ass dumbass! xD
flamedarkfire ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 22:23:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that in Red Foreman's voice.
[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 22:50:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read anything with "dumbass" in it in Red Foreman's voice. Dumbass.
c_girl_108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:04 on January 29, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm literally never going to be able to read dumb ass not in red for man's voice ever again.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:52:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Move your ass before I shove my foot in it.
malonkey1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
Things are getting...Red-hot.
strangetea ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And take off your socks next time you look like a horses ass!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, me too, and then I read your comment!
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:56:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's kinda cute to be honest
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:20:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mormon kids who try and skirt the rules of sex call that "soaking" the guy just sticks it in and tries not to move lol
Schleckenmiester ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:41:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
elliofant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
poke
"And now we wait for the magic to happen"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you mean THANK YOU!!!!!!?
Caffeinexo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: Apologies, responded to wrong comment. I agree with your comment too, though ๐
Axe_wound_crotch ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think either op is lying or its a systemic issue spanning continents.
Chinese couple thought sleeping side by side enough would get wife pregnant
snarkumstance ยท 3144 points ยท Posted at 21:36:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it a biological need/reaction to hump back and forth?
PrincessSnowy_ ยท 2936 points ยท Posted at 22:05:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably, but they were also probably focused on other things and embarrassed and confused.
c00kies44 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it in yet?
Yes, dear.
Good, proceed to cum whenever ready.
bannana_surgery ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:10:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fellow human, we shall now commence sexual intercourse.
Isoldael ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/totallynotrobots
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 01:25:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah the Christian church; teaching people to be embarrassed and confused about their bodies since the 5th century.
wicked_pissah ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 04:08:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, not all churches are like that. The church I went to in late elementary school (living in North Carolina) specifically set aside two Sunday school sessions to teach us sex ed. And it wasn't from a biblical perspective. It was a real discussion where the boys could ask the male teacher anything we wanted and the girls asked the female teacher (his wife) anything they wanted.
The funniest question was when one of the kids asked him how many times he'd had sex. He looked like he thought about taking a guess and said, "I can't remember. At least three," the joke being that they had four kids and no twins.
jyetie ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:19:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's awesome, props to that church. How old did Sunday School go up to?
wicked_pissah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a pretty large church, so the class was strictly fifth grade.
DavidSlain ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:29:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too bad, because if the church actually taught what the bible says, sex ed would be part of sunday school.
FreshYoungBalkiB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1st century.
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:48:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but Christianity was a tiny cult until Constantine, so people gave them little mind.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:53:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Bronze_Dragon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. I don't realize you could use this word when you meant to use its antonym until now.
SosX ยท 1870 points ยท Posted at 22:17:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd think so, but maybe they felt so ashamed/awkward they couldn't even process primal instincts.
MagnusCthulhu ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Shame is super powerful and will work real hard to suppress whatever instincts you have.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, I guess Im not actually feeling shame then
kylemaoin ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:00:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like putting your hand on a hot stove and being too embarassed to lift it back up.
Rootner ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 01:28:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I let my foot get run over by a tractor after my grandpa said not to let it happen. He was parked on it for a good ten seconds. I didn't say anything to avoid the shame.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma stopped on my toe with her car once too. It didn't hurt at all except a little pressure, oddly, but my toe still aches in the cold to this day.
jyetie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:19:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He knew.
basketballbrian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:50:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a reflex that isn't even processed by your brain tho, just goes to the spinal cord and back
TehSeraphim ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:58:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and chances are there was no foreplay or anything, and without getting the woman aroused she might be pretty dry so it would be uncomfortable for both people.
Vince1820 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's polite, but no these people are dummies. Possibly mentally handicapped.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1554 points ยท Posted at 23:05:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humans have done impressive things to overcome biological needs. We are on record:
The human brain is remarkable.
Flamburghur ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 00:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:43:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The drive to reproduce isn't as strong as the drive to survive.
Religion controls sex by making spiritual survival as important or more important than physical survival. Then all you need to do is lay down some sex ground rules in which violation causes great or fatal spiritual harm. Add in some stoning or whatever to reinforce the idea, indoctrination from birth, plus exclusion or demonizing of opposing ideas, and voila, you have people ashamed of one of the most natural bodily functions.
rainbowdashtheawesom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:30:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny how God sends everyone who has sex to Hell, yet specifically made it so that having sex is the only natural way to reproduce.
Also convenient how artificial insemination is sinful because it's "playing God." It's like the church is determined to see the human race go extinct by reducing the birth rate down to 0.
tiltedlens ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 01:04:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Flamburghur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:36:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank god! I found someone else that didn't want to reproduce and we're quite happy.
Paradox2063 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm jealous.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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CatsAreDivine ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:31:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a genetic disorder that kills people by not letting them sleep. I'm too lazy to google, so have at it. It was on a Real Stories YouTube video I watched.
merreborn ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_familial_insomnia
This is quite different from what the OP mentioned:
It takes months for FFI to kill, apparently, and the victim is not continuously awake over that time -- they have some occasional brief sleep, it seems.
passwordforgeterer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:00:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also have something that looks sort of like dementia or psychosis as time goes on, which makes sense if you think about the tiredest you've ever felt and then try to imagine what it would be like to stretch that by (effectively) not sleeping for the rest of your life.
Lugia3210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the lack of sleep that kills those people. It's just a symptom. The disorder slowly eats your brain and eventually destroys the areas responsible for sleeping.
Wolfsblvt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am pretty sure the thing is that the reason of death never was the lack of sleep itself, but like organ failure and similar stuff. The body actually can't work 24/7 like that for a long time. So it can happens that is just... collapses. And then you are dead.
Now it's discussable if that's because the lack of sleep, or not. I see it as the actual reason, cause it is what triggered the things that lead to death.
Sadly can't provide sources right now, I am on mobile. That's just what I remember.
Jerithil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most cases I've heard of has the people dying from a heart attack or stroke from the increased stress on their systems, often helped by stimulants. Also some have died from blood clots caused by not moving enough which is the same thing they warn you about on long flights.
DroidLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're healthy otherwise and you don't sleep for an extended period of time and your body can't handle it anymore then your brain simply shuts off if I remember correctly (as in you fall asleep). Even if you're standing up.
Pilgrimer ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:53:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free will is the worst thing that happened to the human race
hydrospanner ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 00:33:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh come on...you may not personally like Rush, but they're pretty good.
DefNotSarcasm_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:26:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They closer to the heart for me
plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm not giving anyone a fuckin' R
/r/trailerparkboys
DHThrowawayy ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 00:10:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also the best thing that's ever happened.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what a mind under the influence of free will would say!
An_Arrogant_Ass ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:22:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! Don't be free will's puppet, think for yourself! Wait-no, don't think for yourself, that's what it wants you to do! I...ughh...umm. My head hurts.
Castun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No puppet!
themannamedme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what they want us to think.
The_Flying_Stoat ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, it pays off sometimes.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you believe in that sort of thing.
Wolfsblvt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you believe in?
TheScottymo ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:33:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe in a thing called love
roostercrowe ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:44:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
just listen to the rhythm of my heart
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a chance we could make it now
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just think that the freewill v. determinism dichotomy isn't useful to us anymore.
Ideas are technologies. Those are obsolete.
We need new words that leave room for the nuances of the way human's choices are influenced by outside factors.
I believe that many times (if not most) when someone is explaining why they did something that they are simply reverse engineering their own behavior. "Why would I have done that?"
There is a large difference between a reaction and a determined action. Our ideas of freewill v determinism dont really leave room to talk about that space very well.
weretomato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
google compatiblism
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! Thanks.
VincentDankGogh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:43:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
determinism
FGHIK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think about determinism vs free will all the time, but the only conclusion I can reach is that there's just no way to determine which is real... or if it makes a difference.
poiu45 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:57:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't make a difference, but I am firmly in the camp of no free will. The brain is made entirely of molecules, and we know entirely how molecules interact with eachother. Therefore, there is no way that any non-deterministic actions could arise from the brain, excluding quantum randomness.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:44:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look into compatibiliism. The field as responses for your type of argument.
poiu45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From some (fairly brief but what seemed sufficient) reading, the main issue I have is that it seems that compatibilism primarily redefines free will not to be the freedom of will, but actually freedom of action. Everyone is free to act as they want, but they will only ever want one action based on their deterministic history, so the commonly accepted definition of free will is not really satisfied.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The commonly accepted definitions of terms are not really what we should be after. If "freedom of action" gets you everything you want out of free will and is actually coherent, then you have your free will. People like Dan Dennet argue that the only types of free will even worth having are compatibilist ones!
poiu45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I pretty much agree with this comment, but most of the time when people bring up the argument of "free will vs determinism" they are referring specifically to the free will that allows more than one possible outcome from the current situation. This doesn't really come from "freedom of action", though most other impacts do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there are more than one possible outcomes and we have nowhere near the ability to predict future brain states from past brain states. I'd be hesitant to say that compatibilists would allow for multiple outcomes from a single set of input given their theories of free will, but we certainly can't know what the outcome will be.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(Copied my reply from another place in this downthread)
I just think that the freewill v. determinism dichotomy isn't useful to us anymore.
Ideas are technologies. Those are obsolete.
We need new words that leave room for the nuances of the way human's choices are influenced by outside factors.
I believe that many times (if not most) when someone is explaining why they did something that they are simply reverse engineering their own behavior. "Why would I have done that?"
There is a large difference between a reaction and a determined action. Our ideas of freewill v determinism dont really leave room to talk about that space very well.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Compatibilism is still an option.
VincentDankGogh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's only an option if you believe in that sort of thing
StreetfighterXD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I belieeeeeeeeve that whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you....
strangerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
nutseed ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:44:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
evidence to the contrary
SpartansATTACK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Free will is also probably a myth.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look into compatibilism.
SpartansATTACK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have, that isn't what I define as free will. I define free will as the ability to influence your own thoughts and actions, which is most likely not possible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But how exactly do you mean that? "I" most certainly am the only one who decides my actions and "I" can take steps to influence my thoughts. What is "I?" If we just mean the neuro-chemical processes in the brain then free will is trivial and we have it almost by definition. I think you aren't seeing the nuance of modern thinking on free will.
SpartansATTACK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no "I"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So who would be doing the influencing given your previous definition? Again, it's certain that my actions are influenced the processes in my brain, so we haven't really defined much.
SpartansATTACK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My thinking is that everything that has ever happened since the Big Bang is an inalterable chain reaction.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That can't be the case in total due to the inherent randomness of some quantum phenomena. At the macro level I would say I want to agree, but I'm not fully convinced when it comes to minds. The ability to have intentions, make observations, have wants and moral positions is possibly different than just particles doing particle-y things.
Lugia3210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your thoughts and next action are determined by your environment, situation, needs, and the stresses created by them. Input in, output out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What evidence do you have that it works out nice and neat like that? Is it just conjecture?
296milk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Calm down, Jaden.
LemonG34R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God I hate your kind of people...
Pilgrimer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:17 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Buddy :D
LemonG34R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:43 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
<3
psyboar ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:52:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anorexia is a mental illness, not "overcoming biological needs".
Forbesy41 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still your brain countering it's biological need to eat enough to survive, regardless of whether that's a conscious decision or not.
Fozee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ehhh yes but that is a highly simplified version of what happens. In anorexia nervosa that is the case, but in anorexia as a symptom, it can be from the brain being tricked in a large variety of ways. And sometimes the brain is simply too busy to fuck around with signaling hunger.
Even in anorexia nervosa it's questionable to say that it's a case of humans overcoming biological needs. That's an atypical human. It's almost like saying humans have overcome the need to have arms. While some people don't have arms, we do really need arms. Especially if ours are broken, then we need others to have arms.
InfinitelyThirsting ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, but we're talking about people who are raised with psychologically-traumatizing shameful views about sex, so I'd say the comparison is fairly apt.
nethertwist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anorexia been observed in any other species? I think that's the important question.
Fozee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. Usually a severe stress response.
psyboar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:02:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you think anorexia is humans doing impressive things? It's a mental illness
I agree with you, but it does not belong in a list of impressive things people have done
probablyhrenrai ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:41:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but starving yourself to death can be a fully voluntary thing done by mentally sound people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Remarkably messed up.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that too.
Pro_Scrub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where's that Suicide Helmet? That guy spent a long time making sure he'd be SUPER dead when he activated it
Forest-G-Nome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Suicide is actually, remarkably common in animals, especially through starvation. Lots of social mammals will do it if their partner is lost, birds too.
BadBetting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the sleep thing hasn't happened without caffine/drugs though. The fire protests are insane though.
AngryCod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but look what's telling you that. Hardly an unbiased source.
jontelang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think people die from not sleeping do they?
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, no.
However, not sleeping for extended periods of time puts stress on the body, which can lead to other things which will kill you: mostly circulatory problems (blood pressure, heart attacks, etc.)
icarus14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You done any of that with your dick in someone else?
ZacQuicksilver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:05:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm alive; and therefore have done none of that.
Joking aside, the point was that humans can overcome any biological need and reaction given time and training. And I'm not surprised that there are sexually repressed communities in which sexual reactions are suppressed.
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget forcing your kids to kill themselves!
ZoomJet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, fasting once in a while is apparently good for you. Don't know where I saw this, but it was on a documentary
faithfuljohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get your point, but there is no documented case of this that was not related to a serious disease... i.e. the only times it's happened is if someone couldn't sleep (not because they decided not to).
source: work in sleep clinic.
Tauposaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm always amazed by this. By how suicide is such an act of weird... counterproductive free will in its own right. We are deep down made of particles obeying the purest laws of physics. Those particles created atoms and molecules bounding together to better find energetic equilibrium. Molecules become macromolecules and eventually cellular creatures, an unbelievably complex synergy of elements working and bounding together to meet those needs on a level that simpler components could not achieve. Elements form molecules that form cells that eventually specialize and create advanced organisms, all in the interest of aquiring energy for the parties involved.
Creatures evolve and become so vastly complex that the sum of its part losrs focus of why it was allowed to exist. Electrons just wanted a stable orbit, molecules wanted electrons. Macromolecules wanted a more complex and rich form to bound their components. Cells were just a common project to get acces to more stuff more easily. Animals are a way these cells reached to travel around and optimize all those processes. Your body wants food and nutriments and a healthy and safe place to accomplish that to minimize risk and losses. But organisms are so convoluted that somehow, the neuron assembly decided that this ongoing project is getting cut short, because Cindy doesnt love me and fuck the world.
boobsRlyfe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/iamverysmart
Li_alvart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dolphins commit suicide too D':
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The dolphin brain is remarkable too. Not as remarkable, perhaps, as the human brain; but dolphins aren't as likely to commit suicide either.
AutumnAtArcadeCity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seriously blows my mind reading about those self-immolations. I mean, it's incredibly depressing first of all, but also, just...how? It seems like it'd be an utterly primal and instinctual reaction, maybe even just physical, to freak out and panic. Not sit...calmly...
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why it makes such an effective protest mechanism.
curiousiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was having a conversation about this with a coworker the other day. She's Jewish and said her religion was all about self-control, i.e. fasting a lot. She made this comment, "I found out my will was greater than my body."
I couldn't stop thinking about it. The idea that the human brain can manifest a thought pattern which disregards its own survival was mind-blowing. I have participated in religious fasts, but had never thought of it that way. It's so apparent where the idea of mind-body dualism emerges. It's also interesting that humans have evolved the ability to purposefully disregard their own health/survival.
Kozeyekan_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The most remarkable thing about the human brain os how many people seem to be functioning without one.
296milk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could argue those are deficient brains rather than seeing that as how remarkable brains are.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hardly. It takes a huge amount of brainpower to completely overcome the urges that have built up over the ages.
Yes, it removes these people from the gene pool; but I think that suicide is a natural consequence of having enough brainpower to completely reshape the world.
They may be deficient relative other humans; but few species of animals have the brains required to deliberately overcome biological urges.
ehco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
stupid goddam human brain.
skullkandyable ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 22:42:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to my toddlers, yeah that is instinctual. The whole stuffed animal zoo has been humped into stuffed animal therapy
browncoat47 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:14:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Humped into stuffed animal therapy" make me shoot a piece of the macaroni out my nose...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:47:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is apparently a medical record of the parents and attending witnessing a fetus pleasuring itself and reaching orgasm. Multiple times.
So yeah, it is that instinctual. Also, parents discovering their toddler or young children unwittingly masturbating happens a hell of a lot more than parents want to admit. I remember there was an ask reddit thread, the parent said their young son (5-7 i think) came up to them and said "Look what I can do!" and proceeded to hump the couch or cushions.
Dorp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine telling that to your kid when he was 18: "Yeah, you were totally jacking/jilling off inside your mother before you were born. We have pictures!"
MimzytheBun ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just beautiful figurative language here. And I think most parents will admit their toddlers go through the happy-hand-in-the-pants phase. My grandmother brushed it off with a "Oh so-and-so just discovered themselves."
jyetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, my sister stopped by the time she was 6. And then started back up a few years later, but in her room.
theweirdbeard ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 23:03:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if resisting primal urges is part of your belief system, I imagine it would take a lot of mental effort to just let yourself go.
kjata ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:53:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People are known to overthink (or underthink) to the point that primal reactions are overwhelmed.
Naf5000 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:27:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you're sufficiently stimulated.
AvatarWaang ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:37:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Natural selection is a weird thing.
sleepymutt ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:33:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, like he didn't notice it felt really good putting it in, let's try that sane action again
LeftFootWelly ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 23:24:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Now the fun part's over, we get down to the hard work: lying perfectly still."
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:28:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're just... soaking
NotADog17 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:13:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Do I use the force?"
breakwater ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:29:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is also a biological drive for professors to exaggerate to entertain a class.
JapaneseStudentHaru ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:33:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone on a different thread told a story about a guy who would just push
He wouldn't thrust back and forth, just push.
He'd run her up the wall, pull her back, and then do it again.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus was watching, so he resisted.
Tokamakan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The humping aspect was by far the biggest surprise of losing my virginity.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy or girl?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:42:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, that's how some of us have it. I remember I never quite understood how masturbation worked until a friend literally came to my house and did it in front of me. Kinda funny how you thought dicks worked like a drill though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is for the ones that make it to the next generation.
username112358 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Generally maybe
konkeydong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is your honor. I rest my case.
Mezmorizor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's definitely instinctual. He probably just wasn't erect either tbh
ghostpoopftw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were waiting for divine intervention!
CrispyPix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but people who grow up in those environments are taught to be ashamed of sexual desires and even the act itself. Its funny that these wait till marriage towns also have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and STDs. They tell them not to do it, and they do it with no knowledge.
kickstand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a sin!
wimpymist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus you have to move it back and fourth to get it in and out. I don't 100% believe that one. Also every guy knows to jack off you don't just grab your dick and hold it still
B0sz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
can confirm. I find myself dryhumping my girlfriend as soon as I touch her ass.
TUskillz05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a small Christian school. One of my friends told me she had to teach her roommate how to ride a dick using a pillow before she got married
zefy_zef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh.. back in the day their genealogical line would have ended there..
unclefisty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Behold the power of religious shame.
haircutbob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I start grinding my pelvis into whatever body part is in front of it pretty much as soon as vigorous kissing starts. I don't understand how you could get that far into the process without knowing what comes next.
snarkumstance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a female, I do the same thing. It's automatic.
spockspeare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Religion disconnects human brains from biology.
danivus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Conservative religious upbringing must have taught them to suppress that urge.
Valendr0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're experts in suppressing biological instinct.
Frostblazer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is, as is evidenced by pretty much every animal ever. They don't have sex-ed classes yet they manage to figure it out. But somehow we advanced humans have trouble with it. Irony at its finest.
hamburgersocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instincts are the devil's suggestions!
eat_fruit_not_flesh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
biology isn't a force in itself. we talk about it like it is but it isnt. there is no such thing as a biological imperative.
the "need/reaction" to move during sex is to feel good in your junk. that's the driver- feel good not biology. when you think sex is sinful unless done for procreation after marriage, feeling good isnt a priority. so they had no drive to do anything.
pepe_le_shoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you'd never seen porn, never had anyone tell you, I dunno, I guess the people who can't figure it out by themselves would just get selected out of the gene pool.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, maybe not. I mean I cant tell for sure I would 've known if I had never seen any porn, sex in movies, even animals doing it.
acelister ยท 1726 points ยท Posted at 22:05:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"It felt so good when I put it in..."
"It did."
"So what's for dinner tomorrow?"
"I'm thinking pork chops."
"Yeah, sounds good. I'll need to pick up some potatoes."
"Oh, I've got to call my mom."
"Do you want to stop?"
"Nah, just tell me if you finish."
miroux_am ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 23:35:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
too real
cyberrich ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 01:10:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slept with a deadfuck once. Got bored. Looked at the time and said in a super serial manner:
"oh shit. I gotta go. I forgot to call my mom."
I lied.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:30:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ow my ballerinos
fullmetalutes ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:10:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ed Gein is on Reddit? TIL
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:25:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ow my ballerinos
Maur2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear about your arms.
l-Came ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What gender was the deadfuck
TuxFuk ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously a girl, they have a vagina.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:51:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...? Do gays not have sex?
TuxFuk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:03:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That completely passed me for some reason
phearlez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The average straight dude probably cannot imagine staying still if someone was putting a penis in their butt, so understandable it didn't occur to him.
obligatory Barnes & Barnes
TahnGee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahhahah the man
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow you bloody homophobe /s
doricoforme ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a boyfriend once many years ago, complete druggie/alcoholic, who once said during sex 'I must have come because I'm not hard anymore' I told him if that's the only way he knew why even bother? we broke up not long after that.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:51:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry :(
doricoforme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:31 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why are YOU sorry?
JuanPRamirez ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:26:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You got it all wrong. Clearly they have to recharge and if they move them the friction might blow out their circuits
Kkhazae ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this how they have sex in the UK?
SiegeLion1 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it involves more tea and crumpets as well as a quick phonecall with the Queen to ask for permission.
Cruxion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if
So are they just gonna lay forever?
jusjerm ยท 638 points ยท Posted at 22:03:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is baffling. How does no one just rock their hips a bit to see what happens
Sam-Gunn ยท 184 points ยท Posted at 23:04:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can someone jam a usb plug into an RJ-45 jack (ethernet) and not see the issue as to why they cannot access their pictures? And these people are sober...
Dontcallmetiger ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:29:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Need pics of this.
longtimegoneMTGO ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:05:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You laugh, but it actually slides in pretty well, it's actually the kind of a mistake a reasonable person could make who didn't know what port was what, it's close enough that it feels like a real socket connection, try it.
I managed to put a usb in the port myself when trying to hook up a computer by reaching around to plug in cables without looking, I was amused when I saw what I'd done.
MadameDisaster ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:32:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've done this accidentally numerous times. You'd think that having owned my laptop for over 4 years would mean that I'd have memorised where the ports are.
Unfortunately not.
longtimegoneMTGO ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:42:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not your fault, the ports shuffle around positions in the night when we aren't watching them.
MadameDisaster ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:12:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And rotate at will, it seems.
longtimegoneMTGO ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:43:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a well documented fact that USB ports extend beyond our simple 3 dimensional understanding.
It can take 3 or more rotations of the usb plug before it will orient, as we all know. Furthermore, the odds of successfully plugging a usb port on the first try is an abysmal 33%, while anyone can plainly see it should be 50/50 for a plug with only 2 orientations.
The answer is clear. In their maddening rush to get ever faster port speeds, they have done so by tethering the port to a 4th dimension, likely some sort of hell dimention.
They use clever means to hide this from us and pretend it's all down to customer stupidity. Chief among them, the orientation mark on a usb plug. To this day, some use the marking to denote the top of the plug, some the bottom.
Let's dispel once and for all with the fiction that the USB industry doesn't know what they are doing, they know exactly what they are doing.
TuxFuk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:42:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm; am electrical engineer familiar with the USB Type A Spec.
Edit: Err I know nothing that you speak of. The port only has two positions.
jyetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And sometimes there's no mark at all.
its_real_I_swear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The logo is on the top of the USB plug, every time
jyetie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except when it isn't.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a laptop where the USB port was between the Ethernet and the HDMI. Fuck that laptop.
TheGrey_Wolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then there is HDMI. I've almost destroyed my HDMI port on the laptop, which is VERY close to the USB port.
i_am_icarus_falling ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:16:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it didn't want me to plug it in there, why was it so lit up and inviting?
ILoveVaginaAndAnus ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:30:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The RJ-45 has a mechanism for rejecting unwanted penetration of a USB plug in cases where it was not put in legitimately.
IAmA_Evil_Dragon_AMA ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It shuts the whole internet down.
boredguy8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Virus protection
wyvernwy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've done this. Know better. Have decades of experience as an IT professional. Some network ports are poorly located and I have been known to be lazy enough to not look at what I'm doing.
NotADog17 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:15:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thinking about it, they probably have never masturbated either. I mean I was a pastor's kid and all but I discovered that shit on my own real quick.
Let_you_down ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are the odds that two people both of whom have never masturbated before but still enjoy sex find each other?
I knew a guy back in high school who claimed he never masturbated (I didn't believe him at the time). He was super religious, though not to the point that everything carnal was a sin, just most of it.
He married another extremely religious girl when they were both fairly young but they waited until marriage for sex. They got divorced ~3 years later and according to him lack of sex/babies on his part was the main cause. He said he tried, and they did it a few times, it was just difficult for him and he didn't cum.
I'm not sure if he's gay and the religious part is keeping him in the closet or if he is asexual, but multiple doctors visits gave him a clean bill of sexual health he claimed.
thesnowman147 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:18:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard a few stories where the guilt and shame surrounding sex continues into marriage.
Mrs_80085 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:31:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grew up in a super conservative community and went to a private Christian school where we didn't have sex ed at all. I learned about sex/reproduction literally from the one encyclopedia we had at our house.
Married a guy from the same community. We actually didn't wait to have sex until we were married because we both went away to college and basically we were left unsupervised and went a little crazy. We felt wracked by guilt and confessed to our pastor who, while not thrilled, was very loving and understanding and encouraged us to reject the shame and guilt, but to still at least try to wait.
We tried to wait, but hell we were repressed 20 year olds that had just been let loose from a very stifling place and yeah no waiting took place.
Anyway, we have an amazing sex life now and no guilt. We are even pretty kinky at times and love to try new things. We love to shock our Christian friends by being frank and open about sex.
All it takes is one person to be honest and give permission to let go of guilt and shame. That is one reason why Jesus died in the first place -- to remove guilt and shame for sin. As a Christian, this can be done just like our pastor did by telling us that we don't need to feel ashamed for our sexualities.
I try to talk to as many of my Christian friends about sex as I can. I know it sounds weird, but this thread is such a good example of why Christians need to be talking to each other about this stuff more.
HotSauceHigh ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:54:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your pastor mistook the bible, which condemns fornication in extreme terms. People should read their bibles and not rely on the interpretations of others, even those in authority within the church.
Let_you_down ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.sexinchrist.com/fist.html
-artgeek- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is amazing thank you!
I know exactly what I'm going to send my friends at 6am.
Mrs_80085 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:37 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. My. This is fantastic.
Let_you_down ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So is your handle. Made me giggle a bit like back when I was in middle school playing with a calculator.
Mrs_80085 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
Pamela-Handerson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol
Mrs_80085 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:10:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I think you are mistaking the Bible and my story. My pastor didn't tell us that what we were doing was okay. In fact, he did tell us we were wrong to be having sex outside of marriage. The difference was that he specifically told us that our struggle was normal and not to be ashamed or to feel guilty because in Jesus we don't have to. He asked us to try to wait until we were married to have sex. We tried out best, but damn have you ever had sex?
NotADog17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. Some real sad stuff too. Like people turning the lights off and making it as quick as possible. (Totally not my sex life). But some people think enjoying sex is a sin and the only thing it's there for is procreation.
abrasiveteapot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This gives me hope for the world. Hopefully all the insanely religious will die off by not being able to reproduce. Darwin awards all round.
Santa1936 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:41:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly never believed people who never fucked were telling the truth about never stroking it. That's fucking crazy
FGHIK ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the many things I love and hate the internet for introducing me to
SillyFlyGuy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:16:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the devil making you enjoy yourself!
mikeash ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 23:24:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They think that if you do the wrong thing, then you might get condemned to a literal eternity of incomprehensible torture. Tends to make one careful.
Tupptupp_XD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:56:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahem stupid
Big_TX ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:36:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They probably logically thought that that was the proper way to do it otherwise I don't see how you want to play that. What if it feels good when you stick it in and it feels good when you take it out I don't see how you think "oh gee maybe how to repeat this motion" and animals know how to do it so that leads me to believe that a false understanding of the proper way to do it
kapxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no kidding.. even just..accidentally moving a little would cause this realization..unless they were too afraid the other one would judge them or something.
ThisgoddamnKitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right?!? It's even instinctual in wild animals.
happy_otter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also assume they never watched TV or anything
bunchedupwalrus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, most of the primetime sitcoms show sex as just sliding on top of someone in a moment of passion, then it fades to black.
I think thrusting is against some sort of broadcast guideline. Maybe they just never watched anything past PG13
lambo1109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd think it should be instinctual.
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because they have no clue what they're doing and they're extremely worried about their partner? Ha just my guess
jbarnes222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wanna hear something crazy. I didn't know what jerking off was or how it worked when I was younger. I had an epiphany moment eventually after growing up in a catholic household and occasionally guiltily watching videos on youtube that made me feel "warm". I would beat myself up about it for days(figuratively speaking people I was not a young masochist).
Eventually just watching turned into rubbing which turned into pants off rubbing which turned into naked rubbing until one day stuff came out and it fucking blew my mind. You cannot imagine how mind blowing that experience was.
genmischief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It felt great when you installed it, it felt great when you removed it...
WASH RINSE REPEAT PEOPLE, JESUS!
Marimba_Ani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Religion.
Tauposaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did no one involve fap? Or hear vaguely of sex? Or feel any urge? So thats the vagina huh. Imma stay there. I mean hell, put two retarded children in a room together long enough and they'll figure it out, and those guys havent mastered speech.
My dog hasnt received sexual education. He can figure out how to hump shit by himself.
ParanoidAltoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure I've heard both of those stories before. Probably urban legends.
FirstForFun44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the same thing. It feels so awesome to slide it in you wouldn't just... leave it there. You'd be like oh sliding it in was awesome let's do that a few times for funsies... ohhhhhh I see...
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:21:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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unibuckeye ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:14:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen a dog humping? My god, if if could get that speed......
l-Came ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get to that speed bro come on. Start excersing jeez
niggaballs ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 23:09:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahaha. Until I was 20 I thought sleeping together literally meant sleeping in the same bed. People would gossip like "oh she slept with him" or "yo I slept with someone last night" and I was just sitting there like "...what's the big deal?"
That was a big epiphany for me.
Gaardc ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:08:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember watching a documentary about someone mentioning an orgasm (brought on by seeing their fave celeb at a concert or some crap like that). Didn't know what it was and smart kid I was I searched in a dictionary.
I still remember the words "sexual collapse" and for the longest time I thought it was something like passing out, thus "sleeping together" made sense... close enough I guess
NotADog17 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember thinking that as a kid and felt bad because my friend and I had to share a bed at a sleep over.
JustAnotherLemonTree ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:43:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a story about some kid that had a similar misunderstanding; his gay uncle got AIDS from "sleeping with another guy" as his parents explained it, and the kid was terrified that he (the kid) would somehow make his little brother sick because they shared a bed. He watched his uncle wither away--this was before the meds for it--and didn't want the same thing to happen to his little brother so he slept on the floor in the hallway for a week before the parents finally got him to tell them why he was doing that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww that's adorable!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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niggaballs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.
I'm 20 currently.
_Sagacious_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:22 on February 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've only known what sleeping together means for less than a year but you're posting from a 3yr old reddit account called NiggerBalls.
niggaballs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:11 on February 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh...
Yeah.
:/
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 22:45:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Mylaur ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:54:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you watch a lot of porn...
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Porn makes for a really good sex ed apparently
NotADog17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:15:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That must have been some uncomfortable eye contact.
svengalus ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 22:55:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to imagine that a couple would not try and rub uglies naturally. One thing about sexuality is it comes naturally, animals get zero training or sex ed.
Colonel_Smellington ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 23:25:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not formally, but most of them grow up watching their elders shag all the time.
svengalus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:27:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good point.
AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean that would require being in a sexual situation...
GrokThis ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 23:18:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a Christian co-worker who was pregnant, went to an ultrasound appointment with her husband. The husband, who was also Christian and had been home-schooled, asked the doctor if it was ok to "start another baby in there" before this one was born, or if that would be dangerous in some way.
The pregnant co-worker told me this while giggling, like it was so cute. I cringed so hard. Still cringing.
LivingLegend69 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:55:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That kind of stupidity would honestly make me worried for their future child. I mean lacking knowledge is one thing but jesus christ
mindsnare ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:16:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sentence kinda works regardless of how you interpret the jesus christ part. Nice
EliQuince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:07 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's kind of amazing to me that someone that dumb has made it into adulthood.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:14:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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_KingMoonracer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:20:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw that episode of Grey's Anatomy. One was her fiance's baby and the other wasn't!
um_hi_there ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:52:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm silently laughing in my cubicle so hard at this. I believe I'll be remembering and chuckling at this for quite some time.
werewolfbarmitzvah69 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:31:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my dad sat me down to give me "the talk," this was one detail he left out. For the longest time, I thought the same. Stick it in and leave it there. Wasn't until I discovered porn did I know any better.
berzerkle ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 22:29:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did this guy get married and not know how to do it? This guy has more game than I do and he can't even fuck.
Sexual_tomato ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 23:43:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Having grown up at the edge of radical Christian conservative culture, the ideas surrounding sex before marriage and the level of taboo it represents in that culture makes it so that even explaining the very basic mechanics of sex is seen as potentially ruining a pure mind.
frogsgoribbit737 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:20:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then you get married and all anyone talks about is when you're going to have children. Because apparently talking about sex becomes just fine when it involves babies.
Da_Boom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
which is ridiculous.. if you actually look at all the sex stuff in the bible - i mean there was alot of it.
Erisianistic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes incestuous
The740 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:15:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roll Tide
Da_Boom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
something something broken arms
Erisianistic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
something something ladies getting their dad drunk for fornicating.
Sam-Gunn ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:03:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't see what the big deal is! It's not even enjoyable, he snores most of the time.
Lol, that probably blew their minds.
LeftFootWelly ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:27:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This ONE strange sex tip will blow your partners mind!
the_number_2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure it blew something.
Xervicx ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:06:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused about both stories. Isn't sex something that almost all humans have this instinctual drive to pursue, and have some amount of instinctual understanding of how it works? I knew what sex was before I even heard the word, and I wasn't one of those kids that saw things I wasn't supposed to see when I was little.
Holy_crap_its_me ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:31:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until you're raised to be completely ashamed of it and any thoughts of sexuality are embarrassing. Then you try to avoid all that stuff, and, as somebody mentioned above, either you're so ashamed or embarrassed that all of the instinct is overshadowed by being confused/ashamed/embarassed/awkward.
Crazylittleloon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or, in my case, asexuality.
Xervicx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents never had "the talk" with me. With my father, it was too awkward a subject and the only thing he told me was in high school. And that thing was that I needed to stay away from women because I'd get them pregnant. My mother tried everything she could to make it so I didn't know what sex was. She tried to convince me that Santa still existed when I was twenty one. So you can imagine how she treated the topic of sex.
I knew what sex was at least as early as 4th grade. No one told me what it was, how it worked, or anything like that, and I didn't start watching porn until high school (didn't have access to it).
So the fact that my parents did everything they could to avoid telling me sex existed and the fact that they never spoke to me about puberty or anything else is the exact reason why I find it so strange that some people don't know how sex works just by instinct.
Maybe it's genetic memory, or "instinctual memory" if that exists. But I thought it was just something everyone knew since it's the one thing almost every human is naturally driven towards.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it had something to do with Saint Anthony?
Koker93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:40:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol, that second story is awesome. Not moving at all is fun for a minute to cool down, but that's all they thought sex was?? When they both started moving it must have been mind blowing!
A58547587 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like a dip stick. Just stick it in there for a few seconds, pull it out, and check the level.
JudasCrinitus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
King Louis XVI of France needed that advice. When he married Marie Antoinette and they didn't bear any children for a bit after first living together, Marie's brother Joseph sat him down and asked what was up.
Turns out, old Louis never got a proper birds and the bees, and he thought you just stuck it in, left it for a few minutes, withdrew and bid good evening. Joseph set him straight and after that they produced 4 children. Joseph later wrote to his brother Leopold about the situation:
"In the conjugal bed, here is the secret. He has excellent erections, inserts his organ, remains there without stirring for perhaps two minutes, and then withdraws without ever discharging and, still erect, he bids his wife goodnight. It is incomprehensible ... as for my sister, she is not amorously inclined, and they are a couple of incompetents together."
AkwardRockette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was 12, I thought that was how sex worked. I also thought that lesbians were the only case of female oral sex and that it involved cuctioning ones mouth to the vulva and suching hard enough to turn the vagina inside out, with the cervix still inside of the body. The truth is a lot less frightening than that.
goblueM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:40:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds a lot like What's going on in China
GiantDuarf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My heart aches with sadness. Sex education needs to be properly taught to all people.
donteatmenooo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The birth control pill is unpopular, as many people believe it harms a woman's body."
Lol, unlike all the hormones they pump into their produce....
vaiyach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Human sexuality professor?" Did you have professors who were not humans?
anonmymouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that seems so insane to me, I mean, yeah, on the one hand we definitely need sex education, there's no doubt about that, but the biggest benefits of sex ed is teaching kids how NOT TO GET PREGNANT - most of them would figure out how to do it even if no one gave them a diagram. How are there people out there with 0 instincts whatsoever? Dogs don't need to be taught how to have sex, in fact, no other animal in the entire kingdom goes to sex ed classes to learn how to do it.. Has evolution just slowly failed our species? maybe if you can't figure out where to put it you shouldn't be procreating and carrying on your genes in the first place?
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A college friend was going back to Pakistan for a wedding. She wasn't sure what to do since the sex ed there was lacking. I advised a book with pictures.
WiredEgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A good ole fashion soaking
tea_hoarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend is like this. She's very reserved and was too shy to pay attention in health class. She's about to get married and I had to explain to her what a clit is and how it can make her enjoy the sex she currently dreads.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are cute to be honest... It must have exciting for those people to finally explore sexuality a little more. Aw.
mansionsong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope he mentioned something about the clitoris for the woman's benefit.
Gasonfires ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a time in my young life when no movement would have been necessary.
anotherdude17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was a joyful story and I thank you for it
cited ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell doc daneeka thanks for all of his hard work
NotADog17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to think I learned to hump the couch all on my own.
AnUb1sKiNgFTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How can people be so ignorant... my head hurts from trying to understand.
a_fonzerelli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, a vagina's vision is based on motion, so that's a good way to practice safe sex.
Caiur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure? Because this is exactly what happens in an old urban legend.
http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/fertility.asp
WarlordTim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
daw, both of those were pretty cute.
WhimsyUU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read multiple sad stories from therapists about radically conservative female clients who were upset that their husbands wanted them to do "nasty things" and so on...after enough prompting, the therapists discover that the husbands just want to have intercourse. The women have it drilled into their brains that anything involving sex or pleasure is bad, and they hardly know anything about physical intimacy.
idontevenarse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "literally sleeping together while married for a baby" is way to common. What the fuck people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously ? But isn't basic sex...instinctive ?
Crazy_GAD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm calling bullshit.
skywreckdemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That second story is so fucking hilarious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The second story is probably one of the best Ive read in here
InvictusManeo97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm getting some strong Vicar of Dibley vibes from this.
DrMaxCoytus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dude puts it in
Girl: Now what?
Dude: Now, we wait...
yoiforgotmypassword1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ive seen this one on here before...
elronscupboard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's funny, when I swiped my v card, I literally stuck it in, tried to pull it back out, but was overcome by the pressure and the warmth - oh my god the warmth - that I came immediately. Idk i think something's wrong with them
fiqar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did the 2nd guy never jack off?
Ur_favourite_psycho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can just imagine the guy beating himself up, "my willy doesn't work!?"
Boazizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...so you went to BYU, too?
the-mbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it already sticks where it belongs how can you possibly NOT realize that you are supposed to move? This is even next level to the typical user I support in IT...
altervista ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unreal. How can that even happen? I mean the Bible even has sex in it, do they never read those parts and think "hmmm, wonder how that works exactly" and ask a friend or something?
scolfin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand that Christians don't have the Talmud (in which there are multiple discussions on anal, with the conclusion that it's not a replacement for natural sex but should be practiced if it's necessary to fulfill your wife's needs), but doesn't procreation show up in religious literature a lot?
OldDarte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was your human sexuality professor named Bill Masters by any chance?
kopkiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..how, how. How is that not just a normal motion?
drdeadringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Planking, sex edition.
cynoclast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fuck. H...How?!? I figured out more than that despite my parents trying to prevent it.
skonen_blades ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old 'Oklahoma bookmark' trick.
_madlibs_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did the second guy never masturbate?? It's the same idea
_Retalak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That second story. Oh my sides.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plllease tell me they have at least masturbated. They can't have gone into marriage not even knowing what makes their genitals happy.
IGuessSomeLikeItHot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't inner animal instinct take over at some point? This isn't a case of lack of education. It's brainwashed idiots.
hangm4n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like lies
ozzagahwihung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe either of those stories.
Cagi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard of an elderly couple that went their whole lives thinking sex is when a woman closes her thighs around his penis. No penetration, just fucking legs. Obviously they had no kids.
BrushedYourTeethYet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how long the second couple stayed like that for....
Pefferkornelius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one thinking that if you're that stupid, then you shouldn't be reproducing? Either their kids will be the most sheltered kids ever or they will be able to get away with anything they want because their parents are idiots.
Father33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"So this is sex? I didn't get what all the fuss is about."
The_Last_Nephilim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who didn't know you needed to thrust. He got married to his high school sweetheart at 19 and apparently their wedding night was pretty uneventful. That marriage didn't last long.
HeinousFu_kery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a physician but I've had nurses tell me about their having to instruct where to, er, put it when you're doing it. Apparently there isn't a lot of distinction and/or very bad aim between the urethra and the vagina in some populations.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Appropriate Catch-22 quote:
โHe did what?โ
โHe called me a wise guy and punched me in the nose. โWhat are you, a wise guy?โ he said, and knocked me flat on my ass. Pow! Just like that. Iโm not kidding.โ
fjccommish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So Christians don't believe in sex education, and your two anecdotes prove it?
MaxPecktacular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lmao. These made my day, thanks!
Erisianistic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh lordy, my human sexuality professor was a 5'4 Italian guy who spoke in a monotone, never paused his speech, would ask a question ask it again and then answer it himself, and yet was still a good professor with a pretty subtle sense of humor.
He mentions that scientists had recorded a video of a lady squirting during orgasm. The second he stops his lecture a kid from the back dashes up to the front and is all 'I NEED that video!!!! pant pant
This being well past the year 2000, the professor dryly snipes that he should search on the internet. And thus, little Jimmie's knowledge of porn grew three sizes that day
cheesecrystal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your professor helped that couple out, but not the gene pool.
xandora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend at school who had a similar story from her mum. Apparently the guy was ramming her in the belly button and they couldn't figure out why they weren't getting pregnant.
FastidiousBrisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your human sexuality prof thinks you're gullible.
Falconetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These are well-known urban legends. Either you are making this up or your professor made them up.
[deleted] ยท 20696 points ยท Posted at 21:05:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SickZX6R ยท 11596 points ยท Posted at 21:40:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugal
Notthegrosssister ยท 3752 points ยท Posted at 22:33:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep this is how a the parents of a friend of mine ended up with a third child. They were were broke grad students and wanted to stop at the two kids they already had. So they reused condoms to save money (I presume washing them but I didn't get that level of detail from my friend) and my friend wound up with a baby brother.
SickZX6R ยท 4437 points ยท Posted at 23:31:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn...Planned Parenthood gives condoms away for free!
ChefBoyAreWeFucked ยท 8017 points ยท Posted at 00:02:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Act now! Offer ends soon!
MagnusCthulhu ยท 3024 points ยท Posted at 00:27:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed but it made me feel real bad.
xjeeper ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:11:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, people are generally good, Planned Parenthood has been racking in donations like crazy.
wise_comment ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:06:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To.... To shreds you say?
92037 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:33:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just cried a lot inside.
SupremeHug ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 00:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/sadcringe
niadeo ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:10:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like /r/thisismylifenow
Lil_sis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
;_;
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because in your heart, you know s/he's probably right. Possibly as soon as March Madness season.
zoolian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It shouldn't, plenty of places besides PP give out condoms for free.
Really not sure why this isn't well known, but in the spirit of this thread, tmyk.
pete904ni ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:10:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no. Stop with your reason and logic. Either join in the bandwagon or leave reddit.
Rechym ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 03:44:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny even though it's not true
pete904ni ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:11:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come on, it's reddit, where "fake news" tops the front page and emotion > fact
LittlemanTAMU ยท -30 points ยท Posted at 02:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only there were some way to fund organizations without the government...
[deleted] ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 00:05:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
ThrowmeawayAKisCold ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 00:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ThanksTrump
maquila ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:33:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If republicans get their way it ends forever.
ZachityZach ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If?
They already got their way
Good luck
jewchbag ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But like some redditors says they don't have a mandate!!!1 Which would matter if they had ever given a shit about what Americans wanted.
runninggun44 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No such thing as 'forever'
[deleted] ยท -76 points ยท Posted at 00:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not condoms they provide but murder.
GWS2004 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the condoms in the waiting room are imaginary?
AdammabA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:54:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The slimmest condom yet! You won't even know it's there!
GWS2004 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:44:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol!
helium_farts ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:48:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what helps prevent abortions?
Condoms.
glassuser ยท -57 points ยท Posted at 01:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they'd drop the abortion and the no guns signs, I'd be all for giving them tons of money.
LemonConfetti ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:03:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How nice that you want to hold part of people's healthcare hostage until you get your way politically.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 02:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"People's healthcare" would include the people waiting to be born, yes? Are you supportive of providing healthcare for them? This is why all the liberals lost the election...you talk out of both sides of your mouth. You people are just not honest, and the American people have found you out. PP will be shut down in the near future, and when it does, you will remember reading my words.
LemonConfetti ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:07:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know taking away their funding for a few years doesn't actually shut them down, eh?
Yes, I'm all for prenatal care! Thanks for asking.
Let's try not to resort to "you people" statements. It's ridiculous and divisive.
ohpee8 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:56:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who isn't for providing healthcare to unborn children? The republicans trying to repeal the ACA?
Stewba ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:03:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Democrats lost the election because too many people like you continued to have kids when they can't provide/nuture them creating a generation of people who can't tell the difference between news and Facebook posts.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hillary lost and Trump won. how do you feel about that?
Stewba ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:53:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like I am glad I don't live in your country but sad for the world at large.
Thanks for making the world a shittier place. Hillary wasn't ideal either but at least she's not a climate change denier.
Your whole country is fucked and it's dumdums like you who are to blame.
How do you feel about trump backing down on basically all of his promises and bringing in the wealthiest, "swampiest" group of corporate insiders into his cabinet in history and that he never intended to prosecute Hilary for her "crimes"? Because it should make you feel betrayed and infuriated.
Not that I expected you to listen to facts since you clearly voted for feelings, way to let down the whole of human history. Please drag us back into the dark ages and grasp that bible real tight till the rapture comes.
herbiems89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. You spoke my mind. :)
jyetie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:57:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would you please marry me and let me escape this mess? I have a vagina and I can bake.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When the rapture comes, you will be left behind yo suffer the fate of the Beast. It shall be what you deserve through your denial of the Son of God.
piyochama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a troll, or just this hardcore fundie? I can't even tell.
You know the rapture isn't biblical right?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fetish for Japanese girls, much? I can tell you live alone.
piyochama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, what?
Stewba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Isn't it convenient that you were born into the "right" religion. I wouldn't let critical thinking get in your way of getting to heaven.
yodels_for_twinkies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:23:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fetuses are not people. simple as that
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are they then? If the fetus has a heart what exactly is it? Your ignorance is astounding. You must be a product of the public school system.
yodels_for_twinkies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:34:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's called viability and it's simple concept. if it cannot live outside of the womb without the use of machines and similar products of medicine, it's not a person.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Viability" does not determine personhood. Follow the logic. If you cannot "live" i.e. Feed yourself, the you aren't a person. This would include all children under the age of 5. You are clearly repeating something you overheard some SJW shouting at a march. My suggestion for you is to go read a book and learn to start thinking for yourself.
jyetie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:56:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, that would be a combination of the worst presidential election ever (even without the hack) and the ignorance people like you continue to spew. Maybe you should make use of PP services while they're still around for the sake of our country.
glassuser ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 02:54:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funny, because that's what PP is doing.
Stewba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha you are so fucked it's awesome. Except if you have kids then it's a crime against humanity.
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
ohpee8 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:54:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people think that's all PP is good for? Abortions make up like 1% or something of all the shit they do.
jyetie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:51:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BUT THE DEAD BABIES!!!!!11!!one!!!! Just because I don't like something means no one can do it!
Edit: and those damn no gun signs. This is AMERICA and I should be able to bring my Uzi where I damn well please!
glassuser ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because that's the hill they want to die on.
gas_trump_supporters ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me sad
io- ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:36:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username x2!
BeanBunnyWasFramed ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:48:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking trump
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 01:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We export that job to foreigners, because no one in America is willing to go that far.
Arrogus ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:47:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guarantee Trump doesn't give two fucks about Planned Parenthood. The Republican Party is what's really to blame.
fulminousstallion ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 01:02:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(:
ChickenPotPi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:53:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*The offer already expired in Texas :(
mechapoitier ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:15:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit you reminded me Republicans exist again and now I'm sad
Cryptic_Spooning ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:55:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuck my life
APiousCultist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ffs guy
DonkeyPuncherrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
scarvet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And it is actually possible
VictoryCupcake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If ever there was a comment to gild.
ChefBoyAreWeFucked ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nearly guaranteed to be my top comment ever by the time I wake up.
JohnFest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donate the money to PP instead
crawlerz2468 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That'll show us! ohwait
Dewbacca9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sad, unfortunately, probably true.
Jethr0Paladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Name checks out
misyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ค๐๐๐ข๐ญ
periodicchemistrypun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure any good uni just needs a student body to write durex and they'll supply condoms to said student body for promotional reasons.
I know a guy who did this and ended up with bags of condoms more than he here needed. Being that he was the head of two clubs he took those condoms that would never be used up in his social club till they expired and he decided 'fuck it, let's give em away free'.
The Labor party political club that day gave out condoms to all new members, I told people it was to stop women going into labor.
So yeah, if you need free condoms there are ways and means.
ArchiPelagius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aha aha a hahahaha aww now I'm sad
ugandanigga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Africa, well, the urban parts, you're never far from a free condom dispenser. Of course some idiots take a hundred of them and never use a single one but still, you're never far from the emptied out container.
That said, you should look into getting aid organizations to condom you guys.
Undercover_Cactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username
molly__hatchet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
esipmac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:32 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just go to a gay bar.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:27:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't afford the 7$ for a pack of rubbers, how can you afford the 50k$ it takes to raise the child if it breaks?
GonzoMD ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 00:28:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Takes way more than 50k to raise a child
thatsweaterguy ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:28:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A million over 18 years or something.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:04:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like a lot of people are doing that with some kind of assistance though (family, church, government, or otherwise).
PuddleBucket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. I'm extremely lucky to not need to pay for child care for my infant (yay split shifts with the husband!) and I know that ish is expensive. I don't know how people afford it. I looked into a licensed daycare and for just my one child, it was my salary. No wonder people rely on family so much.
But yeah I'm saving a decent salaries' worth every year by not having daycare so that's a big chunk gone
AdammabA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:59:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That can't be right. If I make $50k/yr, I would have to spend literally all of my pay on the kid without paying any other bills, and that would only be $900k. Single parents would never be able to afford that, and we obviously have people who do it all the time.
undercovergrover ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:58:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's bad math. At 50k a year you'd only make 900,000. So that person would have to raise any children, multiple children even, at much less than a million. There still many finances outside of having a child to be taken into account. Obviously if someone has a higher income they can afford more but the myth that it takes a million dollars to raise a child is just that, a myth. Sorry, I just read this often and as someone with plenty of friends raising kids while making below 50k a year it always make me exasperated to hear.
wimpymist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more like 150k-200k by 18. Obviously there is financial aid and shit to lower the actual cost a parent pays
Privatdozent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if you include all the money you spend WHILE having the child under 18, but no way it's that high as far as "need" goes, or even close, if you just compare "money spent alone" to "money spent with child".
Someone making $50k a year only hits 900k after 18 years. And we still haven't gotten to things other than the kid that you have to spend money on.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:30:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably true, but I'm trying to be a little conservative fiscally and let's just say you're paying JUST for food, and clothing, and public schooling. No college or anything else.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but DeVos and her cronies want to destroy public education.
RiskyWriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you think you can feed and clothe and shelter a human for $2777 per year? That's $231/month.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're just considering the kid and no other family members, totally.
fulminousstallion ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that's way more than it takes to raise a child.
greyghostvol1 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:29:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hence the need to make sure there's cheap contraception available.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 00:32:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if it breaks is the point. Pills and condoms and spermicide arnt 100% effective.
Ceremor ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you seriously going to promote an abstinence only stance on sexuality here?
If it breaks you can get an abortion. Unless that also isn't available to people because of shitty policy decisions.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -22 points ยท Posted at 00:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion if it isn't going to kill you, the kid, or be caused of rape. You know the consequences of your fucking, if you don't want the kid put it up for adoption and let someone, who can't have kids, but wants them, to have it.
Ceremor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know you can take a pill and get rid of that clump of cells without an invasive medical procedure if you catch it early too, right? It's not a big deal. In The Year of Our Lord 2017 abortions are a choice, it's not going to change, bruh.
Spidertech500 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 01:13:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abortions aren't a measure of convenience, there for when you have no other options.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 01:15:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the eyes of the law, defiantly not. Socially? Maybe someday it will. But answer this, why do you not want people who are sterile to have kids?
Ceremor ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:40:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guess what dude, there's a ton of kids in the system who still don't have parents. The problem is kind of that there are too many, not that there's not enough.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Another issue; as I can tell from my friend who is going through the adoption route now, is he's on a 4 year waiting list to even get approved to start the work to be able to adopt.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:36:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then maybe humanity should be more socially aware on this, and give these kids homes in more numbers.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've adopted one boy, I would adopt more if I could afford to do so. Unfortunately I do not.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:47:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess: he wants a white infant without any kind of special needs? Most states will pay you to take kids that are older, a minority or special needs.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:15:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they actually prefer 2 children, around the ages 4-6, and doesn't care on ethnicity. Nice try though.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:41:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'll bet.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:56:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wah everyone who doesn't think like me is racist!! /s
Ceremor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:00:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your post history tells us that you literally are racist, so your friends probably are too.
Even your chums down at the_donald reacted by saying what the fuck is wrong with you when you made that "BROTHERS, GIVE THREE CHEERS. WE MADE THE WHITE HOUSE WHITE AGAIN" post.
I really don't understand why literal racists always seem to hate being called racist.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:55:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really nice to think that you took the time to search every post I've ever made. Good use of time well spent!
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm stuck at work waiting for a progress bar to tick by, honestly don't have much better to do.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still shows you care <3
GWS2004 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:34:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do you have a ton of kids or none because you're a virgin?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got one actually and he's the coolest little dude.
GWS2004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they adopted? Since you want to force people to have kids I hope you gave a home to a kid who needs one.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes he is, thanks for asking!
GWS2004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, now keep adopting!
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Will do when I am financially stable enough to support 2 children.
ChefBoyAreWeFucked ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:10:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, if they don't get him the first time, they should probably try again.
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So die a virgin if you don't want to have kids.
Does that sound reasonable to you?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That or cut your nuts/womb and ovaries out.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:48:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, good luck finding a doc that will sterilize you when you don't have kids.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's possible to, just have to be willing to search a bit.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:42:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe in other countries, not in the US
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wah, you have to travel out of state.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:10:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a problem across the country.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where families beat women for saying no to sex? I'm not calling bullshit, but imma need your source on this, cause it sounds like bullshit
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:52:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/07/getting_your_tubes_tied_why_do_young_women_have_a_hard_time_getting_sterilized_.html
http://www.chatelaine.com/health/canada-tubal-ligation/
http://www.redbookmag.com/body/a45886/the-parenting-choice-my-doctors-wont-let-me-make/
http://www.redbookmag.com/body/a45886/the-parenting-choice-my-doctors-wont-let-me-make/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/want-sterilized-no-doctors-145444588.html
LemonConfetti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:17:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do know that's not how people are sterilized, yes?
Edit: Btw, the way we do sterilize people, there are still accidental pregnancies.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah yeah, it's more close to clipping the tube that connects to where it goes to your parts.
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and there are still accidental pregnancies from that. Rare, but it happens.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:39:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody "accidentally" has concentual sex.
LemonConfetti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:43:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the accidental part.
So, you don't think people should have sex even if sterilized if they're not willing or able to have a child then? Correct?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I already answered this in a different thread, but sure go have an orgy if you get sterilized.
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you said that it wasn't acceptable to risk pregnancy if someone is unable or unwilling to have a child. So which is it?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:23:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're sterilized then how can you risk getting pregnant?
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sigh
There is a failure rate. Like I said already. In fact, the birth control I use has a lower failure rate than a first-year vasectomy.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats called "malpractice" and the result is a massive, massive, lawsuit.
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um, no. Not from error. You're talking out your ass. Tubes can reconnect after the procedure. It is a known risk. Small, but it's there.
So at what efficacy rate are you comfortable with people risking a pregnancy they won't keep?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, if you get the "tubes tied " surgery, it's still malpractice. Why not go the full route so you don't also have to worry about cancer, if you wanna be sterile, and get your ovaries removed? 2 birds, 1 stone.
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Malpractice is about something having been done incorrectly. You can't sue for malpractice if everything was done correctly and you still don't have the intended outcome.
As for why someone wouldn't remove their gonads; they are hormonally active. Removing them does much more than eliminate fertility. To the point that no doctor would ever do such a thing just for the purpose of sterilization. It would be unethical.
Also, for the cancer thing, removing them eliminates the risk of one type of cancer and raises your risk of other cancers.
So again, at what efficacy rate are you comfortable with people risking a pregnancy they won't keep?
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know nothing about the human body? That's not just a simple procedure, it's a major surgery that has a ton of effects on a person. So everyone who wants to have sex needs to have major surgery in your world? Get the fuck out dude
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did the rape baby do to deserve death? Why is murdering a rape baby okay to you?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:48:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you didn't want the act that causes the kid, it shouldn't be held accountable to the mother or the rape baby.
Edit: to add, if you get raped, go to the hospital/police to get tested first, they'll ask do you want/need that one drug people used in areas when abortion was banned. (Not plan b but something else).
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So abortion is murder unless it's a rape baby, and then it's not murder?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did I even say it's murder? No. I'm saying it's unreasonable and unfair that you can abort the kid out of you don't want it, when there are thousands of families out there who can't have kids, but want them. And need years and years of time on lists and inspections before they can adopt.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Life isn't fair, punkin
You do realize that carrying a fetus to term and then giving birth to it is very expensive and also dangerous? My cousin almost died last year giving birth, and hers was an uncomplicated pregnancy up til then.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:03:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sucks to be your cousin, did she have it naturally or csection? If the former, sounds like she had a shit Doctor who should be sued for malpractice.
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit even your logic is fucking terrible. I can at least understand the ethos behind obnoxious bible thumpers and their anti-abortion spiel as much as I disagree with it but you're actually going to stand on a platform of 'Women shouldn't have agency over their own body and should be forced to carry out a pregnancy because other people want their children'?
Really? Fucking really? God damn dude, not only is that incredibly stupid because there's already more than enough unadopted kids out there, but it's also just horrible and cruel. So you're not even operating under the assumption that abortion is murder, you just want a woman to have to go through the whole uncomfortable, sometimes dangerous ordeal of pregnancy for the sake of strangers that want her kid? What the fuck does she owe to some rando that she has to carry a pregnancy to term? Why do the rights to her own bodily autonomy go to some asshole parents who are probably just waiting on her because they don't want to adopt a black kid?
This is the stupidest logic I've ever seen holy shit what is wrong with you? How do you have a kid? I hope you're lying about that, you shouldn't have children, not only are you a terrible moralizing asshole, you're also dumb as hell. Christ.
Everyone thinks your opinions on this subject are terrible and stupid. Everyone. Consider that maybe you're the one that's wrong here.
Spidertech500 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 01:12:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get this obsession with abortions as a measure of convenience. That's monstrous. Bill Clinton said : safe, legal, rare. The argument now is free, convenient, common. Imagine how people who think it's a life feel, they've been takem for a ride
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Contraceptive failures would still be statistically rare.
Spidertech500 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry?
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're saying abortions should be rare. Statistically, proper contraceptive failure is still rare, so that's not really an argument against abortion in the case of contraceptive failure.
Spidertech500 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:34:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"if it breaks you can get an abortion"
"don't worry if I forget to brush my teeth I can always get implants. "
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taking a precaution that fails.
Not taking a precaution.
Spidertech500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you're getting the point here. Abortions are a surgery, they're a massive procedure which potentially ends a life. Not only is it callous it's also needlessly disrespectful. If you want to gamble with having a kid, just a condom isn't and shouldn't be enough. Use pills, etc. I guess I'm. Just bothered by the callousness of it all.
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely agree that people should use more than condoms. It's crazy to me when people only use condoms.
Abortions aren't always a surgery or a massive procedure though. Early chemical abortions are functionally the same as a miscarriage.
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Abortions are only a surgery in later stages of pregnancy. You don't even know how abortions work dude, don't argue about it when you don't even know what you're talking about.
Ceremor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if you deleted your other post detailing a surgical abortion or if the reddit servers just glitched out and can't fidn it, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_abortion is something you don't seem to know about or are at least very, very confused about.
Spidertech500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:50 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking about later term Abortions http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/how-are-abortions-done
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure I'm for the more billy mindset, especially the rare part. Rape babies happen, he'll even some women elect to keep them. More power to them. Women/babies get fiseases that may or may not kill them in childbirth. Which sucks. Now a newer argument for incest? Sorry, if bro and sis/mom and sond/dad and daughter/cousin on cousin, etc were fucking, protected or not, well what did you expect would happen.
Edit: would like to add I personally only know one person who had an abortion because she didn't want the kid. And she's a shitty person cause she didn't want to be pregnant cause she would have to stop drinking.
Spidertech500 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:37:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I think we are few and far between
greyghostvol1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:57:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're that worried about pregnancy, to the point of having multiple redundancies like that, sure, go ahead and abstain. The rest of us will continue to be normal humans and realize that you can have safe fun without being an overwrought prude.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:11:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a difference between being a prude and responsibility. Sorry you're not responsible.
Ceremor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:00:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry you grew up in an apparent mormon community
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually grew up atheist, thanks!
iamadrunkama ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:00:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no you didn't
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:08:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it's not.
SadGhoster87 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:34:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you even read your comment
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fortunately, abortions are!
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So why do you have a problem with gay people having kids?
LemonConfetti ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:21:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL, try again.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no no I'm serious. More abortions for unwanted kids means less avaliable for adoption means less people can adopt means eventually gays can't adopt kids. And artificial insemination has its own issues under the law, which needs reform. (I.e. Two daddy's have an insemination, the real dad gets the legal rights in case of divorce, the other father, even tho it's their kid, can get fucked and not get visitation and other rights) also it's cost is astronomical.
LemonConfetti ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:41:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I meant try again with a better argument.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:08:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fairly valid argument, what's your problem with gay people?
LemonConfetti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you don't logic too well then.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or you just hate gay people.
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that must be it. I mean I voted for them to be able to get married, but I must hate them! No other explanation is reasonable!
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you don't want them to be able to adopt kids so I'd say yes, you got it.
LemonConfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do! In fact, I think people should just plan to have a spare kid so there's plenty for gay adoptions! /s
Cause that makes as much sense.
wyvernwy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:27:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No way does it cost that much to totally neglect an unwanted child.
DylanBob1991 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:33:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck I didn't realize fixing a broken kid was so expensive. They probably use cheap parts from china, too.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As stated, if you only take food, and clothing a kid into account. Not medical expenses
butterbell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:28:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's when you afford the 50$ plan B.
yodels_for_twinkies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or the free clothes hanger
roostercrowe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:39:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i actually just happened to hear this stat on the radio today. $230k to raise a person from infant to eighteen years old (im thinking this is a minimum figure, i've heard closer to $1 mil, like a few others said).
klatnyelox ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:57:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a mil, then how do minimum wage people do it all the fucking time?
wimpymist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because those numbers usually involve the kid loving a pretty nice life and if the parents use zero financial aid or insurance. Like if I had to have medical procedure that cost 10k but because of my insurance I only pay 800 but I went around telling everyone it costs 10k
fulminousstallion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad raised 8 on an average of about 60k annually - 10k of which went to health nsurance costs.
p_iynx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. But poor people are going to have sex. That's why we need places like Planned Parenthood and affordable birth control, as well as comprehensive sex ed. Obviously it's cheaper to use condoms. But some people still can't afford them.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now there's a better argument, go after the pharma companies about making the pill cheaper. But they also need to work on it better till its 100% no if/and/or/buts effective first. Planned parenthood does do some good, but we shouldn't be funding them still. Same as charities and churches shouldn't get off on having to pay taxes either.
p_iynx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Planned Parenthood provides multiple services to low income people. They are funded because they provide cancer screenings, counseling, health care, Pap smears, STI testing, etc, in addition to providing birth control and abortions. Their abortion care is not funded by the government.
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/general-health-care
There's a drop down menu at the top with all the categories of care they provide. This is only for their "general health" services.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:55:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I know, but I don't care, does the government fund all hospitals, doctors, therapists, etc? No. Fuck the good they do, they'll get better help for the public, since they'll be able to see then" good " their money does. We shouldn't be supporting any institutions
LordSocky ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:56:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HOW CAN YOU AFFORD TO LEAVE YOUR HOUSE?! IF YOU SLIP AND BREAK YOUR COLLAR BONE YOU'LL MISS WORK AND ACCRUE THOUSANDS IN MEDICAL BILLS!!
That's you. That's what you sound like.
Poor people get to fuck too. If it costs society significantly less to provide contraception than pay for the child (which the government will be on the hook for if they can't afford it), how can you possibly argue against it?
AdammabA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor people could walk into any fucking college campus and get condoms for free if jerking it isn't cutting it for them. How about they practice some personal fucking responsibility? And you're telling me they're so poor they can't afford a $4 pack of 3 condoms? Fuck off with your bullshit. Unless you're arguing that poor people are just inherently lazy or irresponsible, and that's why it's cheaper for society to just provide condoms, you're not making very good points.
LordSocky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been proven to help and save money. That's all that matters. Unless your need to wank to your ideology is more important than saving money, increasing overall societal health, reducing abortions and reducing children born out of wedlock and to unprepared homes.
If you place ideology before facts, then I can't help you.
AdammabA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just because we give people access doesn't mean they will use it responsibly. People can workout for free at home or outside, yet we have obese people getting diabetes all the time. Should we give them free gym memberships? Maybe all the food they need for a healthy diet for free? After all, it increases overall societal health and saves money right?
LordSocky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it was proven to save our country money, make people healthier and ultimately create a better society, why the fuck wouldn't you? You want to pay more in taxes just so you can watch other people suffer just because you think they deserve it?
AdammabA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because it sounds like communism, and I don't think I should have to tell you how that turns out. The government doesn't know me, my life, my wants, my needs. Why the fuck would I want them telling me what I can and can't eat?
LordSocky ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:00:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have absolutely no idea what communism is, then.
That's like saying building a nationwide road network is like telling you where you can and cannot drive. It makes no sense. You're just having a kneejerk conservative reaction.
The food thing is stupid and I was only humoring it for the sake of argument. But if gym memberships were proven to help the country and save billions, that doesn't mean the government is forcing you to do anything. Why would you ever oppose that? What possible negative effects would offering fitness to the country have?
FirstwetakeDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately, a lot of people are too ignorant (due to crappy/absent sex ed), inebriated, and so on to use condoms correctly, let alone know that combining condoms with withdrawal is nearly foolproof. Also, many women and girls are unfortunately in circumstances where they cannot safely refuse sex, nor convince their partners to use condoms. In any case, subsidizing LARCs (IUDs and implants, "set and forget") collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
WisconsinWolverine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$233,000
StarTrippy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's your suggestion then? Abstinence?
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:21:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't afford condoms? You betcha.
projectbadasss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So there better be a way for people who cant afford contraceptives to access them. How are they gonna raise a kid if they can't even afford the contraceptives to prevent the pregnancy??
WaffleSports ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get condoms at the dollar store.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the most effective form of contraception, the cost adds up over the long run, many people don't know to combine them with withdrawal, and many women are in situations where they cannot safely refuse sex or demand that their partners use condoms. Subsidizing LARCs collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The point is they shouldn't be fucking if they can't afford the consequence if something goes wrong.
LemonConfetti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:13:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In addition to people who don't want to have children, poor people should also die virgins!
That's you.
Do go on. Tell us all about who gets to ever have sex or not.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice straw man argument mate,
LemonConfetti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you're literally telling people to not have sex for various reasons, some of which never end. What part of your argument am I getting wrong?
FirstwetakeDC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms are not the most effective form of contraception, the cost adds up over the long run, many people don't know to combine them with withdrawal, and many women are in situations where they cannot safely refuse sex or demand that their partners use condoms. Subsidizing LARCs collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First I used condom as an example, second get an Amazon account or Costco membership, third: simple fix, better sex Ed in public school. Fourth that's an fallicy, or they just need to refuse anyway, or threaten not to have sec if not used, if sex happens it's rape and they need to press charges. Lastly it's not the cost of abortions. It's the fact they happen as an option of birth control.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People usually go to condoms as the example because they seem to be inexpensive, and yes there are sources of them for free. Even assuming that people all have the transportation to get to Costco (they don't) or can order things through Amazon (imagine being a teen, or otherwise living with someone who might take an interest in your mail), the costs still do add up over time... but it's the next two points that are most important.
Improving sex ed in much of the US is, sadly, not an easy fix. You can probably see that in other conversations in this very thread, as conservative religious groups keep people ignorant; worse, they can be very powerful politically and wield a lot of influence on school boards, state legislatures, etc.
Lastly, and most important, women in all too many communities can and will be beaten if they try to refuse sex. Do you know how difficult it can be to get a successful rape prosecution, and do you have any idea how often the victim/survivor is blamed for what was done to them? I'm a bit flabbergasted that I have to tell you this. I wasn't referring to the cost of abortions. Sometimes people do acknowledge that subsidizing/providing LARCs does crash the abortion rate (see the Contraceptive Choice Project, Colorado's similar program, another in Iowa, etc.), but they say they don't want to pay for it. It pays for itself. They're being penny-wise and pound-foolish, which is so common these days.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a teen, you especially shouldn't have sex. If not for the whole teenage dropout shit, let's say my state (age of Consent is 16) if a 17 yr old has sex with his 16 yr old , the elder can still have charged pressed on them from the younger a parents for statutory rape and or corruption of a minor, laws fucked. It is a easy fix, don't do it as late, but treat sex Ed like drivers Ed. Full semester of that shit. Ok, are these American communities or a different countries? Cause that would actually make news if it were in America. Sorry i must have been misinterpreted or mobile screwed me, it's not about the cost of abortions, it's the birth control shit. I personally feel we shouldn't find shot and should tax charities and churches. lets have our money go to something better, like the debt.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You really don't know what you are talking about, pretty much across-the-board.
projectbadasss ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:56:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK dingbat but people are going to have sex. Why not make it as safe as possible instead of adding one more potentially devastating ring to the cycle of poverty.
fulminousstallion ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The onus is upon them to make sure they don't wind up with a kid. It's not cheap and I've always been poor as fuck but I definitely could have sprung for rubbers. Anybody who says a dongbag is too expensive is too lazy to pick up fucking change. Literally less than a dollar.
FirstwetakeDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not the most effective form of contraception, the cost adds up over the long run, many people don't know to combine them with withdrawal, and many women are in situations where they cannot safely refuse sex or demand that their partners use condoms. Subsidizing LARCs collapses the abortion rate and pays for itself.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok what sounds more reasonable, holding off on gratification until you are fiscally responsible enough to support the life, or take the 4% chance you might have a kid, with the use of contraceptions and add another life to the poverty cycle?
FirstwetakeDC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why punish the children? Among other things...
CaucasianAsian36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Before insurance, the birth of my daughter cost $60k alone. Babies ain't cheap.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Be like the old days. Have a home birth.
Ceremor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:04:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah let's just risk something going wrong and dying because we can't afford a hospital birth and abortion isn't an option under the strict moral guidance of reddit user ICUMTARANTULAS. Great idea! Wow!
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I said, I am being fiscally conservative and saying the absolute lowest it would take.
Ceremor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes. The fiscal conservative's outlook that the poor ought to live their lives like they're in a 3rd world wasteland with absolutely no infrastructure because they can't afford it.
ICUMTARANTULAS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:12:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's poor, then there's poverty. Far different.
thelonious_bunk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:44:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ฉ
HelloThereCat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:48:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:(
Samacnab ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:55:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too soon?
ubergoofygoober ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:09:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/sadbuttrue
Holovoid ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:36:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/hahahahaawwwwww
2howlingwolves ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:58:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Clever asshole
thelonerick ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:18:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So did their college probably
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:11:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Almost every school does this, even most of the religious ones do. The local public health unit has programs that give them out. There are lots of ways to get free condoms. If this story was true then it had more to do with some sort of fear of one of their parent's cutting off funding for having a relationship with someone they disproved of.
pm_me_pics_ppl_pm_u ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 00:17:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The doctors office I go to has free condoms. In a jar, no judgement, I took a few once and the clerk smiled and told me to take more.
Hell, I'm sure if I go up to 5 strangers and ask if they're willing to chip-in to my birth control / safe sex fund, I wouldn't be surprised if I get enough money to buy a pack of rubbers.
sampledeggs ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:38:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well they're being awfully personal
pm_me_pics_ppl_pm_u ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:48:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the doctor had his finger in my butt before so yeah they're awfully personal over there.
I was kinda being awkward taking condom from the jar, she was just letting me know it's not like there is a limit or anything, just help yourself to the cheep cheep condoms.
UndeadBread ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:33:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are they made from baby birds?
pm_me_pics_ppl_pm_u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was open on my notebook this morning. I guess drunk and tired me wanted to post it but failed on account of being drunk and tired.
greyghostvol1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:30:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
depends entirely on where you ask. Downtown Manhattan with a funny sign? eh, it's likely.
Vanryker ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:10:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would be a great sign for a street hustler.
" Need money for condoms- help stop me from procreating"
glass20 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:23:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for long!
:/
WhenTheBeatKICK ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Ohio there is a site you can get a 30 pack delivered to your mailbox for free. Ohiv.org . Always post it to help someone out. Other states might do something similar. I only use ten or so a month so I've got a huge drawer of them I'll prob do something immature with in the future
TheWaterboatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rubbers make great slingshot bands.just sayin.
altervista ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not much longer they don't
marisachan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:22:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're grad students too! Colleges give those things away like candy at a parade.
hellogoawaynow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:20:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do many bars and clubs!
iam_that_one_ag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't in/near my college town anymore.
bettareckognize ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back in my punk rock days I knew a guy and girl who were habitually broke, and used plastic grocery bags in lieu of condoms. Boy were they happy when I told them about planned parenthood. But they still did it sometimes because planned parenthood was a ways away and they didn't have a car. As far as I know she never got pregnant.
Mr44Red ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:45:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hefty Hefty Hefty
Pelley42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a story that goes around in my town about a lovely young couple who used a discarded bag of Doritos for a condom.
AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds sooo painful...
Passing4human ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:04:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where they're still open :(
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:33:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus let's be honest, even store bought condoms aren't expensive.
You can literally order condoms on Amazon for less than $0.25 each. Some even come down to $0.15 each. $15 for a 100 pack.
If you can't afford $15 for a 100 pack of condoms, you sure as hell cant afford a baby.
MoribundCow ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:38:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you can't afford to have moved to a place with better education either so now you think rewashing condoms can save you money because you can't get pregnant.
CrudelyAnimated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
50 redditors should have a meetup and stock for the year. /jk
SOUPY_SURPRISE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lots of university health centers do as well
Throwawaymyheart01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but you would have to use gas or a bus pass to get to one. Are you new to /r/frugal? Even walking there puts wear and tear on your sneakers.
Tap water on the other hand is "free"
Ready-Player-2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not trying to rock the boat or anything, but I wonder how many anti-abortionists have invested in making condoms free to needy people. If you think about it, it's a win for everyone.
calcium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not just PP but many school's public health offices do too! I know my high school and college did.
juicius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The school clinic had free condoms. It's funded in part by the tuitions so there's no reason not to use it.
uglydavie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in ohio. They had to start charging (still cheap but hey) because of budget cuts.
wimpymist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most colleges have a health center that gives them out for free too. Grad students are some of the smartest/dumbest people I've ever met
flynnsanity3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do most colleges.
happygogilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And they were grad students, most universities give condoms away for free too!
GEARHEADGus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And so do health centers at most schools
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the health office on campuses has a desk with a candy bowl full of them
Uberhypnotoad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, anywhere they're still operating. So many have been shut down by the right I can open a condom washing service.
Prometheus720 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah. That's easy to say if you live in a city. In the rural midwest, where education is worst, you might not find one for hours in any direction.
Back when I was in high school, before tons of self-checkout at walmart, it was hilarious to try and get condoms. Guys bought them from gas stations and bought ginormous boxes to share with friends. It was really stupid.
the_jak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of university health centers do as well.
JackBond1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I bought those condoms.
Barnacle-bill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do most college student health centers...
nitefang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do most universities.
aburp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for long! The new administration will pull all their cash & push ridiculous legislation and requirements for them to stay open to where they will just shut down (like they did in my home town).
nnklove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh no they definitely do not. Not at all the ones in this area. They're sold separately out of a big jar, and not cheap or anything.
NeedMoarCowbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And ironically they are the only condoms I've had break on me! I guess it's better than no condom but they're cheap condoms (or at least they were in 2008)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If only they would drop the side business of murdering babies...
dubman42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably not for much longer, though.
sr71Girthbird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fucking thrift store near my house has few condoms. If you want thrift store condoms that is.
Swolesaurus_Rex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shit when I was in college the dorms had a giant box of them in the offices. I would dredge it with a shoe box and bring it back to my room.
Dubsland12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Till they're de-funded. It's amazing that people that hate poor people want them making more poor people.
insomniaczombiex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they were grad students they should have been able to get them from student health for free!
texxmix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In canada all health clinics give them out for free. Hell you can buy them at most dollar stores here even.
Slacker5001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My college campus has take 3 cents in student fees from every student to pay for free condoms as well as keep a small paid student staff to provide education mostly to freshman. It baffles me that people even pay for condoms in some places.
Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So do most colleges.
TuxFuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gave me 24. It was great.
Attack_Symmetra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And their schools health clinic probably sells them for a nickel each, if not for free.
PositivelyErect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even skyn large?
caroja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our closest Planned Parenthood is over 100 miles away. There are no free condoms in our county which is the size of Rhode Island.
BMK812 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Many County Health Departments give away condoms for free as well!
Devilsdance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can also find free condoms at most University campuses, usually at the Health Center or women's resource center
Evan9512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but they're low quality, have you ever used one? They're too small and too thick.
sbetschi12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As well as most college campuses. I wonder what subjects they were studying . . .
Alliknowisnothing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pride parades too.
MiladyRogue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can also get 6 for $1 at Dollar Tree.
the_coon_00_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:26:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
well...technically they're partially funded by the government so, in a small way, you paid for them.
defjamblaster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:48:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
#defundplannedparenthoodagain
HungryMexican ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair...they really suck
Jake0024 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:05:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They said grad students--they don't have time or money to get to PP
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you want an unexpected kid, use PP condoms.
if you dont want a kid, use real ones.
FlindoJimbori ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah PP giving condoms seems like a conflict of interest
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, but those faulty ones they give keep the business flowing.
Hellscreamgold ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 00:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they give abortions away free too.
fuck planned parenthood
Etellex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your profile is fucking gold, 9/10 troll.
SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may be a troll but it's actual logic people actually use.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:50:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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MoribundCow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god
thethreehundred ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:50:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Off topic but I knew a lady once who'd keep diluting her dishsoap with water. To the point it was obviously just water in the bottle and she'd insist "it's just as good", I think in a year she literally only goes through 2 medium sized bottles. Needless to say, I never ate off her dishes/silverware.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So.. she was Hal from Malcolm in the Middle..
PinballWizard77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:21 on January 24, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Super late to this, but it sounds like she's a fan of homeopathy, then.
magusg ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 23:45:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are people capable of getting into a grad program this retarded? Something is wrong.
He770zz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:07:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
school =/= intelligence
snipekill1997 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A grad program though? Like I can imagine a retarded potato getting into a lot of colleges (even non-community colleges), but two people this dumb making it into grad school?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they needed money, they may have just been in cash cow programs. There are a lot of grad programs designed to take money from dummies.
[deleted] ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 23:22:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms are cheap though that just seems lazy
MooseFlyer ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 23:27:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not particularly. Like, they're not a luxury item, but it's not like costs a couple bucks for a box of condoms.
Oookh ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 23:29:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get a big bag for free in fertility clinics
39572520483727294959 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:33:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They give them out at planned parenthood for free though, were they from Florida or something?
[deleted] ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 23:35:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not just that but they are usually free at any school.
Two grad students should have easy access to free condoms.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:48:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Presumably this was decades ago though
illradhab ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:15:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Back when you had to use a sheep's intestinal lining. Sheep are $$ for a grad student.
HowCouldUBMoHarkless ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll trade you a sheep for a wheat
gregny2002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know a box of Saran Wrap and a single rubberband will keep you wrapped up for months.
wartornhero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep every RA had a giant bowl/jar of condoms. Take as many as you like.
Also the health office had a giant bowl as well. Just walk in take a couple and walk out, no questions asked.
1madeamistake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am RA. Can not confirm.
Source: Catholic schoolโฆ
grubas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a professor and apparently I became the condom genie. I get gift baskets for friends.
Captain_Nipples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, stop by my house I'll give you some. I may even toss in a cup of sugar.
Octavia9 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:58:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That seems contradictory.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Octavia9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just a joke.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do NOW. Assuming OP is about 18-25, how good was sex ed back then?
Hybernative ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, the safest thing you can do for your sex life is to get a bunch of free condoms, take a few safety pins, and make sure to pin a condom to the inside of your coat before you head out.
ZambiaDude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT IF YA GOT A BIG DICK
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:30:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TrapHouseTroy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:40:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just paid $4 for 3 but I'd rather skip out on $1 pizza than have a kid.
chairitable ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:43:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck youre getting laid and have access to $1 pizza?? You're a winner!
NickF227 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:54:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
New York City probz. Dollar slices are king
TrapHouseTroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Toronto but god bless dollar slices
goo_goo_gajoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss NY pizza so much :(, but at least Arizona has wayy better mexican food. 2.00 breakfast burrito that'll feed you two meals on the side of the road = life.
DownYourRabbitHole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I just bought a 12pack for $15. And I usually use more than one. But it's still cheaper than a baby.
ywu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they have many many times per day.
wartornhero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I usually get 40 for 11-12 bucks.
Pls_Send_Steam_Codes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pretty sure it's actually more expensive than that. Dunno though haven't banged in awhile and my last gf despised of condoms and I was too much of a schmuck to disagree with her
tyrannischgott ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:36:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're free tons of places. These people definitely could have found free condoms on their campus.
Phoenixilva ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then stop having sex. If you don't have the self discipline to do that in order to avoid other things you can't afford (like STDs and babies), then that's probably why you can't afford a box of condoms.
MooseFlyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah no shit. I still think it would be good if their cost was heavily subsidized.
john22544 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But at least for the last 20 years you can get them for free at most universities, I suppose not all though.
WordEGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can vouch back to at least 1990 :)
Darth_Raj_Raj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and that doesn't mean you can re use them.... Wow. Just wow.
Flying_Cunnilingus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cheaper than a kid.
Vigilante17 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:39:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And free at Planned Parenthood and most college campuses.
KingConchobhar ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:45:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from Northern Ireland, you can go into a Health centre and they'll give you tons for free...no questions asked.
OrangeClyde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought the Irish love to reproduce
KingConchobhar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think its the irish love of reproducing and the problems that come with it, that made it mandatory to give them out for free aha.
abrasiveteapot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sentence didn't end the way I was expecting
KingConchobhar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what way did you expect it to end? lol
abrasiveteapot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not with condoms that's for sure ! After the little furore in the papers the other day about Scotland trying to help NornIron with abortions they can't have there I was expecting the opposite if anything.
KingConchobhar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:51 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
who knows what could change soon, hell.. the last time I was speaking to you we had a government, our government just collapsed there a wee while ago haha.
abrasiveteapot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:37 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh governments are overrated, Belgium got on fine without one for years
KingConchobhar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:06 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can understand that, but Belgium having a Govt isn't the only thing stopping the two main ethnic paramilitaries from killing each other lmao.
abrasiveteapot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:30 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, good point :-)
DenikaMae ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not if they're made from the finest lamb intestine money can buy they aren't.
palad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But unless you're Scottish, you have to kill the poor sheep first.
askingforafakefriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn they must have forgotten to do the opportunity-cost risk assessment of saving on a condom vs all in costs have having and raising a child.
internetkid42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$15 a box for like 10 condoms which is going to last you 2 weeks is $30/month. I guess that doesn't seem like too much to me now, but when I was living paycheck to paycheck, it was a pretty big deal
NessieReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone should have told them that Planned Parenthood gives out free condoms....
Voidg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well do the pull out method at that point.
u38cg2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, did they turn them inside out?
Xian9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember being really determined to get the free condoms from the toilets in the medical centre on campus (there's other places but I set on this location). The toilets were between the doctors offices, past the waiting room and past the front desk. The receptionist said "can I help you" and I just ignored her and paced right though. Not a great story but it felt awkward to me. Oh and I made sure to get half the box.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's literally a box of hundreds here at Costco for like 18 dollars.
mynameisalso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you can get them free
yosoyellogan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope they didn't get their graduate degrees if they're that foolish...
Malfeasant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What makes you think higher education has anything to do with intelligence?
thisisgoing2far ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ironic, as condoms are nothing compared to, you know, babies.
josefx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just turn it inside out and you are ready for the second round.
tintinabulations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am honestly shocked that you believe that bullshit story your friends sold you.
Phidillidup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Getting their masters in Medieval Studies, I assume?
jonodubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you're at university they usual have clinics to give free condoms
Pls_Send_Steam_Codes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sucks that it ended up costing them about a million times more than what a condom would've cost. That's not including the cost of their time, lives, and sanity.
IceprincessOCN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude they give condoms for free here in Mexico in any health center. WTF is wrong with America?
ReasonablyConfused ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The cost/benifit ratio of condoms is one of the lowest I know of.
ratbastid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I heard about a teenage girl who was pregnant, and who swore her boyfriend wore a condom.
Turned out he'd found a used one of his roommate's, turned it inside out, and used it again.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL, college health centers have free condoms.
chodelegs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what are ya? 67?
CrispyPix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How much could a condom possibly cost vs the entire pregnancy and raising a child? How fucking stupid are those people? You could even steal them if youre desperate enough to wash and reuse a condom. Jesus Christ.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how did the child find out he was the result of an overused condom...?
Elsrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you know this story?
More_Empathy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do graduate students not know to NOT reuse condoms? This is mind-boggling.
God_Damnit_Nappa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought universities gave away condoms for free
tomato_paste ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grad students are the best. They are very good at grad studying, but their real life skills atrophy after so many years of the academic bubble.
Lrauka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... Your friend ended up with a third child... Who was his baby brother?
arbitrageME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then, they became even MORE broke grad students ...
Zinouweel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
diggexpat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's on them, no matter what they say. I've had condoms break. You can absolutely tell.
Roboticide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... grad school?!?!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is, I've never been to a university where free rubbers aren't free. Seriously, go down to the clinic and pack up, they also had female birth control but as a man, I couldn't get a box.
iamagainstit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if they were grad students, the healthcenter at the school almost certainly has free condoms.
wimpymist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sperm is pretty easy to kill unless it's inside a human. They most definitely got pregnant one of their times they just didn't wear a condom
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Birth control is like $10 with insurance! $10 a month isn't that bad, that's like a Netflix subscription lol people are crazy.
Janks_McSchlagg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grad students? With double digit IQs? Wtf
executemerkel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In principle that's not too bad. You would want high-IQ persons like grad students to reproduce in order to improve the gene stock.
ShelfordPrefect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reusing condoms and ending up with another child... Penny wise and pound foolish :(
wordsonascreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who was perfect in every way!
LukaCola ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If money is an issue, then you don't fuckin' skimp out on the condoms for Christ's sake. How did these guys graduate?
BadPunsGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair there are condoms that can be reused. Reusing a latex one won't work out too well though.
hacksbeenjamin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...proof that you can learn all you want, and still be a fucking idiot at the same time.
Seriously, between the two of them, how'd they not know that you use a condom once not because they want you to buy more of them, but because they become less effective and also what the fuck that's super gross.
hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't afford condoms, you really need to buy condoms.
56784rfhu6tg65t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know this about your friends parents?
the_GOATest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most universities give either free or deeply discounted condoms.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That condom must have been flapping threads in the breeze by the end of its life.
nik0lla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because the potential price of another kid (250k lifetime I think?) was worth the risk of $20 box of condoms...
NotSoCheezyReddit ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 22:43:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugaljerk
-Pelvis- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugalcontraception
DammitDan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So glad that's not a thing
OtherKindofMermaid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugalidiot
NotSoCheezyReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugaldolt
malonkey1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think jerking really would have been the frugal option in this case.
tenderbranson301 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:26:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/buyitforlife
donno005 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Folks over there save the soap and the water and just shake the fuck out of it.
a_quiet_mind ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:49:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally.
Kate2point718 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:04:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A former facebook friend of mine (I defriended him after he started posting actual porn) once posted a picture of a designer condom -- I want to say it was Chanel -- and said he was going to be using it twice for his girlfriend's birthday that night.
That's when I learned that some people actually think it's okay to reuse condoms.
SickZX6R ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had no idea designer condoms existed. Now I want one. Not to use, just to display.
brazilliandanny ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/frugal would know you can get condoms for free from many clinics.
codefreak8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also if you're a college student, you should check if your campus has free condoms (at least mine does).
kaenneth ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:44:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugal_jerk
hardman52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad fold-lock sandwich bags.
icer816 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think that would almost got r/frugal_jerk better?
Edit: went to the sub and one of the first posts was a pic of the top level comment lmao
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugal_jerk
KarlTheSnail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugal_jerk
TerroristOgre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh, I lurk there and those (us) people are generally pretty nice. We not the "reuse condoms" type of folks lmao
manborg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me want to unsubscribe to the frugals. There is bad publicity.
ronm4c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll subscribe to this subteddit for a limited time only
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saving money, you're doing it wrong
nardsonfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cheap fucker
mellowmonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I'm sure the condom-washer has the latest iPhone and unlimited data. It's all about priorities.
TheBreadSmellsFine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just misread this as /r/fungal and was slightly disappointed.
EpicGamer62737 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out
GetOffMyLawn_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:38:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Frugal_Jerk
bannana ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:36:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/Frugal_Jerk
DPool34 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:41:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/buyitforlife
BruceBannersDick ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:21:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BWAHAAHAHAHAHAHA! oh, shit. ::catches breath:: BWAHAHAHAHA!
Bluebro11 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:51:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/frugal_jerk
dancingliondl ยท 1613 points ยท Posted at 21:36:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just nasty.
MultiversalTraveler ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:53:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reads in Cleveland voice
kosmo1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:37:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[redacted]
Musty_Sheep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that /s was a small insectus.
kennish ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:27:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not need to read that.
Brain, please forget.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:28:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this in Cleveland Brown's voice.
ryannayr140 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:01:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They do that in Africa.
idrive2fast ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:24:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In all seriousness, it's probably better than going in raw. Whether it's gross is another matter.
flamingshits ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What? You don't wash your condoms before reusing them?
undead99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read that in Cleveland's voice. Made me smile at an otherwise horrible true story.
extracanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why? She said he cleaned it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't mean he did it well.
[deleted] ยท 575 points ยท Posted at 21:58:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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LtPinkerton ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 23:27:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look at rich boy over here. Mr. I can afford new condoms
Promarksman117 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:26:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just saved up my money and bought a lifetime supply of the good ones. I just needed to keep a lentil in my mouth and hibernate on the sidewalk with a cup to put money in. No need for begging. The fat cats just gave it to me.
LtPinkerton ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:46:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lifetime supply? That's just like one or two right?
Promarksman117 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:25:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just one. Sex takes up too many calories. I just use them to gather rainwater.
aspa07 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:14:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to pick off the "used" stickers off CD's in FYE and then would stick them on boxes of condoms in the gas station across the street from high school. Thought it was hilarious.
westc2 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:07:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't buy used condoms on craigslist?
nalydpsycho ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:41:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't use those as birth control.
OrionFOTL ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:32:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*second penis
Shadrach451 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:41:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live in Eastern Europe and Second Hand stores and Sex Shops were pretty prevalent there. In fact they were often combined. It's very disturbing to look out the window of a bus and see the sign for "Second Hand Sex Shop".
Infobomb ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:46:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Never buy a used condom... even if you know the man." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1GJO5n7wxM
MagikarpBot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:10:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's hope he didn't picked it up from the trash ..
ATAlum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:36:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Hey, bruh, you done with dat?"
[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 23:15:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lunar725 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:05:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
cleeder ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:12:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I'mma need a source on this as well.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:35:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That last one. Sheik, as in Durex Sheik that's still very much around. Damn that's crazy though, reusable. I thought Craig's uncle in Next Friday was just some crazy, stupid, old dude when he offered Craig to use his washed condom. Apparently it had a real life, historical basis.
Djinjja-Ninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember seeing that ad.
The old man appeared rather proud of his condom made out of intestine (IIRC).
edit: Here is the original ad that /u/Bileeb was talking about.
diiskoo ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:16:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well there's your guarantee that he's not sleeping with anyone else. If I saw a guy pull out a used condom, I'm noping the fucking out of there.
SlicedNugget ยท 1357 points ยท Posted at 21:38:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am on toilet. Literally soiled self from cringe. Send help.
[deleted] ยท 2245 points ยท Posted at 22:40:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No need. Just wash your soilage with hot water and soap and put it back in.
ridesano ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:21:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I too believe this shit will catch on
AwkwardRainbow ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:24:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ba dum tsk
probablyhrenrai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ba bum tsk
AwkwardRainbow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do I get points for trying?
probablyhrenrai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your spelling was actually the "correct" way; I was just trying to make a butt pun.
AwkwardRainbow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do I get points even though I didn't make the butt pun?
probablyhrenrai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, butt for different reasons; just the "ba dum tssh" was funny enough to merit updoots.
Skittlett ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:44:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/nocontext
dsifriend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:51:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!
Jonny_Dreams ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:55:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone ever pm'd their boobies?
Dreamcast3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:10:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No :/
HayyyU ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:25:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, you're not OP!
Phony!!
Dreamcast3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still, nobody has PM'd me boobies
Aurora_Fatalis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Boobies don't have wifi access, can't be pm'd.
Missing_nosleep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put him in a straight jacket and give him an enema! Wait! Wait, wait... Give him the enema FIRST. THEN put him in a straight jacket.
midgetcricket ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It'll give him a sense of accomplishment!
HeughJass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:57:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
twisted34 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You marvelous, sick bastard.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Directions unclear hands full of shit.
NoGodJustMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions blah blah, now constipated.
SynthPrax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:55:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what the washing machine does anyway.
potato_ships ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/realfrugal
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Use that good ol wiping sponge.
prowness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see this being one of those short-lived memes
blaisemescal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
))<>((
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
DrewB4435 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:16:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next time take your pants off before sitting on the toilet and you should be golden.
Arayvenn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:38:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you really need help if you're on a toilet?
Eremeir ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:09:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can have this condom to shit in.
Just make sure you wash it out with soap and warm water when you're done.
Capn__Geech ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you're on the toilet...
tralphaz43 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:40:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do you always sit on the toilet with your pants up
Raymond_Who ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOILED IT
SOILED IT
SOILED IT
kjata ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:57:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shouldn't be too much of a problem, since you're on the toilet and all. Unless the convulsions... oh dear glob. Help is on the way.
JewishHippyJesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, I'll help put it back.
c3534l ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely you soiled the toilet.
S1ayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tip from someone with IBS, sometimes you just gotta jump in the shower.
hates_poopin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:45:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
เฒ _เฒ
NegativeChirality ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:58:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm amazed the condom didn't break ever.
JustARedditUser0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure?
TheMadmanAndre ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:52:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet baby jesus what the fuck
Sam-Gunn ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:01:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't most condoms... petroleum based? And don't most dish soaps have degreaser and stuff that'd easily compromise the integrity if not dry it up? And was he using it with EVERY person he was with? ...so many horrible questions.
TehWildMan_ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:29:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this "condom" was nothing more than a rubber ring after two uses.
unidan_was_right ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, most are latex.
Tofinochris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He invested in the non-latex ones and wants to preserve his investment.
da_chicken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, most modern condoms (in the US at least) are largely latex-based. That's tree sap, not petroleum. There are condoms made of polyurethane and other petroleum-based materials, but they're more expensive and less flexible; they are hypoallergenic, however, and latex allergies are very common. You can also still find lambskin condoms, but they're difficult to find.
Historically, reusable condoms used to be made from lambskin.
courtoftheair ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 22:04:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well in the past condoms were used like that. I believe this was in the sheep intestine era though
tarna927 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 22:51:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe you can still buy sheepskin condoms. They're for people with latex allergies.
[deleted] ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 23:30:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Scotland they're still attached to the sheep
[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 23:34:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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avanasear ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:41:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wales*
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haggis is made with sheep intestines.
What if my ancestors ate their condoms.
Broberyn_GreenViper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:05:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Secret sauce
geoelectric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When the rubber hits the woad
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the welshman. You should know you can't pull the wool over our eyes, taffy.
Bob_Droll ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:37:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can, I have, and I would not recommend them.
tarna927 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what's wrong with them? genuinely curious as I've never been with anyone that used them.
WhereIsYourMind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're more expensive, thicker, smell strange (though the smell doesn't last, it's really just the packaging), and aren't rated for prevention of STIs.
Also, they have synthetic condoms for latex allergies now so there's no real need to buy them. I wager some people still prefer them though.
xxxsur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and how much does that cost? sound expensive...
Bob_Droll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They were notably more expensive; don't remember exactly, though. Not even twice the price, though, so not that bad.
Bob_Droll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They smell a bit odd, and the texture/feel was very offputting to me. They supposedly rip easier too. But that's just me.
Lucky for me, the allergy was her problem and not mine, and she's no longer my problem.
tarna927 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good to know, thanks for the input
Bob_Droll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am worried about the person who downvoted you for asking, though.
tarna927 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
eh, people are dicks. no rhyme or reason sometimes. maybe we should send them some sheepskin condoms to protect themselves.
Malfeasant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:49:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For one, they don't block HIV
tedivm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who is allergic to latex I want to point out that there are a lot of better options than sheepskin. Sheepskin doesn't offer anywhere near the protection that other non-latex condoms do.
In fact they're useless for STD protection-
MisterDonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Latex burns me like hot embers in my asshole. I use polyurethane.
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you still rinse them out and reuse them?
tarna927 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ewww
and I wouldn't recommend it... it's my understanding that they're less durable
PsyTech ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:51:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the origin of the joke:
"How do you reuse a condom?" "Shake the fuck out of it."
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking adore you.
Malfeasant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking a door sounds like a good way to hurt yourself...
dirkalict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah- Health class 1978 they told us you could wash them out- we were a little grossed out even back in the olden days.
hardman52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was back when they had only two kinds: XXXX sheepskin and latex Trojans, which were about as thick as your mother's yellow dishwashing gloves.
invisiblefirehunter ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:40:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ewwwwww
Son_of_Kong ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:57:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like to imagine the doctor was taking a sip of water right at that moment, because that would have made for the most magnificent spit take.
Tofinochris ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And with a simple wash using soap and hot water, he could reuse whatever he spat on.
Forever_Mrs_Young ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:55:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, this story is two years old
damnatio_memoriae ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:00:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaCourt/comments/5n2j6q/ulil_pixie8_vs_ulaxrules56_karma_theft_5figures/
Forever_Mrs_Young ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm glad someone finally recognized this huge injustice.
Lady-SilverWolf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:21:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am pretty sure you stole this from a different thread from a year or two ago.
EDIT:
Found it. Either you stole this story from this thread, or you are the doctor that treated this nurse's patient
damnatio_memoriae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaCourt/comments/5n2j6q/ulil_pixie8_vs_ulaxrules56_karma_theft_5figures/
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:25:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is so cringeworthy
PMMeYourNudesPls ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:47:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck, I was not expecting this to end like that
damnatio_memoriae ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:28:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
11000 karma and you ripped this comment off word for word from a thread over 2 years ago posted by /u/lil_pixie8
SirBucketHead ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:51:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ณ terrifying
casparh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:23:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*hurk
jinxandrisks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even ignoring health problems, wouldn't the condom loose elasticity really quickly?
XxXxSlayerofP00nxXxX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this almost word for word on a similar Askreddit thread...
Eugostodetortas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear lord
OppaiGaKawaiiDesu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read that 4 times to process the stupidity
tsuruyo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I.... what? Why? How?
SATANONITE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the fuck?
Darknight474 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just cant
bugslove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? That is sooo nasty!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually what people had to do with condoms in the 1950s.
ukulelej ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no.
the_north_place ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shudder
TheCrossStitcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow!
oohneature ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? Who are all these guys willing to put on some random loose condom?
AllPurposeNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, supposedly sheepskin condoms can actually be washed and reused, but I would probably use alcohol given this little revelation.
JN_Lawrence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a GREAT way to save money!
daklaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
recycle, reduce, reuse
on_my_lunch_break ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, reusable condoms would actually be super cool...
reestablish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank God you're not a doctor
Teh_Randomizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ...
RedShorty13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knows you just turn it inside out right guys?... Guys?
-obliviouscommenter- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... you mean you're not supposed to do that?
Uh oh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bruh
sharkstain3--- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have said this before it's simple. Just shake the fuck outta it.
MaybeLeijon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you figure it was passed down to him like a family heirloom?
3literz3 ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 00:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an optometrist, I've had several patients come to me for an exam because "the medicine ran out of my glasses". I still wonder if it's just an expression they have, or if they really believe there is medicine in the glasses that runs out.
crlast86 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use the phrase "I need a new prescription" when my eyes are getting worse and I need something stronger. Maybe she heard something like that and misunderstood?
tsume24 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:46:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone who wears glasses and actually knows how they work... i'm so sorry. ๐ญ
pogafuisce ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:04:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh....so that's what's happening!
malonkey1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It took me a while to parse that.
For a moment, I thought they had actually been trying to put eye medicine on their glasses, and showing surpise when it didn't stay.
GordonRamsayVevo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Huh. That makes sense.
SnArL817 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:33 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do these patients also look for blinker fluid?
[deleted] ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 02:50:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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DeeZnutZzZ69 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Book vs street smart. Prime example
norsish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This, right here.
CreatrixAnima ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:48:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps if she'd had a better acquaintance with alcohol, she wouldn't have done so well at school?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:33:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Stroke code. Jk just another drunk. Thank you for this consult" -hoping that's what your PN looked like
sockalicious ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:37:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was back in paper days. I wrote the date and time, then:
NEUROLOGY
120/80, 125, 37 ATAXIC BAL 223
A: ACUTE ALCOHOL INTOXICATION
P: TIME
....SIGNATURE
The signature had a little more flourish than my usual, which is probably why I got written up for it and had to explain myself to the chief. Not that that was unusual, this was one of those old school hospitals where shit flowed downhill unimpeded by any obstruction.
cormacredfield ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:00:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only excuse I can think of is the intern came from a non-drinking society.
save_the_last_dance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:04:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...she could just be, I don't know, like, really sheltered? Like, every single family member she's had was a teetotaler or drank very little, and she only hung out with the library crowd school, and watched very little tv, movies and popular music, and thus, had just never been exposed to drunk people before? I don't know. I got nothing.
DangitImtired ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:39:04 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All that schooling and apparently not having the sense of a baby duck.
The /facepalm is strong with this story. Ouch Doc. Sorry for your pain.
IronbutterflyMKII ยท 189 points ยท Posted at 00:31:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this fits here but my uncle was a doctor and had a patient come in with his fingers cut off on one hand (minus thumb). My uncle asked him how that had happened and the man replied that he was mowing his lawn and he wasn't sure if the mower was on or not so he put his hand under it to check and got his fingers cut off. A grown ass man didn't understand that putting your hand in front of a blade was not in fact a good way to check if it was on or not.
MadiRoxable ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:44:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally happened to my grandfather. To make it worse, our family's dog came and ate his fingers before they could get them on ice to re-attach at the hospital...
intentsman ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:35:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was we deaf?
Because most lawnmowers make a loud noise when running
ziburinis ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:28:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, I AM deaf and I can tell the lawnmower is running without sticking my hand under it.
That brought up a memory. This guy was using a riding lawnmower to mow his big lawn and the kids were out playing with the dog. He managed to run over the dog's front legs, and he carried that poor bloody dog to the ER vet where we also were. Dog was put down, and I am traumatized for life. Every time my husband mows the lawn I have to double check that the dogs are inside, even though he knows about the trauma. He takes the dogs out to pee and then he mows, just so there's no chance we'd need to take the dogs out while he was mowing.
Freddie3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:26:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually more common than you think and there was a huge litigation battle in the mid-80s between lawn care companies and federal government attempting to make changes to lawn care safety because people were getting killed by their mowers and stuff.
One change that the government wanted was to put an image of a mutilated bleeding hand on the mower to remind people that hands can get cut off down there but lawn companies didn't want people to know that their mowers were dangerous so they negotiated the image down to just a stick figure hand almost getting cut by the blade that is much less striking and noticeable.
There's a fun book on lawn care called American Green that discusses the history of the idealistic American lawn and how society has changed around it. I highly recommend it.
alienaileen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:36:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God my grandfather did that. All of his fingers were the same length. Then when I was about 20 my mother wasn't sure if the blender was on or not so she stuck her hand it. It was on. She could see all sorts of stuff like bones and tendons. This same lady got a papercut on her eye from a popcorn bag. The fact that she is still alive astounds me.
cormacredfield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:12:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your family is clearly cursed. You should avoid food processors and cheese graters.
alex20169 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes, when it looks dumb but it works - it's still fucking retarded.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sort of reminds me of my grandfather. He lost a few finger tips on one hand because of a lawnmower accident. As far as I can tell he didn't actually reach down while the lawnmower was on though but he did try to fix it in a not very smart way.
HMSBannard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why so many mowers and garden machine come with a 'dead man's handle'.
ParacelsusTBvH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but you can easily squat down, hold that with one hand, and check the blade with the other. This is why a lot of factory machines in places I've worked are triggered simultaneously in two places. Then you don't get to cheat (unless you get creative)
jesst_ica ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I scribed, we had a patient in the ER with two bloody, missing fingers which came to be after he also put his hand under a lawn mower to check if it was still working.
valueape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/instantregret
Dogzillas_Mom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad mangled three fingers and eventually lost part of one because he stuck his hand in the snowblower to clear an icy blockage. To be fair, he said he thought the kill switch was engaged, but it wasn't completely. It was like halfway so it looked safe to him.
Crazylittleloon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...are you my brother? Same exact thing happened to my dad.
Dogzillas_Mom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:05:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I might be your sister...
Crazylittleloon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:17:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never mind, I don't have a sister. Just my brother.
gino188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well actually when I was in Grd10 business class, we learned about how the lawn mower companies had to put a sticker not to put your hand under it, or to lift it up while it was in operation...apparently some people thought it was a good idea to lift it up and use it to trim hedges...they trimmed their fingers and sued the lawn mower company. so then now they put stickers and warnings on that shit.
[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 02:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I had a doctor sort of have this reaction with me. I like to use those ear buds with the interchangeable rubber parts. Well, one day I noticed my hearing was super off after listening to music on the bus, and I was missing a rubber ear bud. After a while of the problem not going away I went to the ER to see if I had actually gotten it stuck in there. Sure enough, the doctor looked into my ear, gave me a rather astonished look and confirmed I had gotten the rubber in my ear. I attempted to laugh it off as he was removing it (which he was quite proficient at) and ask if he deals with this often. "Well yes, but never someone as old as you...normally with 5 year olds..."
PurpleOrangeSkies ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:28:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in high school I got a pencil eraser stuck in my ear. The high school nurse sent me to the elementary school to have their nurse take it out. That was embarrassing.
mttdesignz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the laugh, seriously.
Littlebettyyy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:50:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother in law has had this happen to him twice in the last year and he's 28. First time he got it removed by a dr. Second time he was so embarrassed he made my sister (his wife) do it.
rigsta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever you do, don't tell him about the internet. I don't think he could handle the shock.
FacelessJack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG. Your not alone. I used ear plugs while living with a noisy roommate. A year after I moved out of that place i was board at work and while prodding the outer cartilage of my ear i feel something slid part way out of my ear. I touch it while very alarmed, and feel a familiar plastic nub. I pull it and out pops one of the ear buds I hadn't used since living with that roommate.
I have yet to notice a reduction in my hearing.
I have never told anyone that story.
DangitImtired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:30 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The rock I put in my nose and ear when I was 4 took forever to fall out!
Not really, only a couple years.
supertucci ยท 259 points ยท Posted at 23:03:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a pregnant patient who SWORE she took her birth control pills as prescribed, faithfully. Doubting, I asked her to show me (to make sure she was taking one at a time etc). She then carefully placed the pill in her vagina. Sheesh
Nekketh ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had someone like that when I was working at a pharmacy - a lady came in wanting six Ventolin (Salbutamol if America doesn't have Ventolin) at once because apparently it wasn't working (in Australia you can get it over the counter). We're only allowed to give two. I asked her why she thought that it wasn't working, and how she administered it to herself.
She then proceeds to spray the inhaler twice on her neck, holding her breath and all. Every staff member in line of sight was trying so hard not to collapse onto the floor laughing.
Przedrzag ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:46:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does someone get given an inhaler and then think they need to hold their breath to administer it? Not only is she administering it incorrectly, but she is actively preventing the medication from working! FFS
Nekketh ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The breath holding is correct - you're supposed to hold your breath after inhaling the medication for 5-10 seconds, but the fact that she was spraying it on her neck while holding her breath made it funnier.
Something tells me that she only got half the story on how to take the medication.
BenchMoreThanSquat ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 01:15:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In Brazil you can go to a health center and get free birth control. A friend who is a medic works at one told me this one.
He gives instruction to the woman on how to use and tells her that when it's finished she must come again to get more.
2-3 months later she turns up pregnant. He asks her why she didn't come back to get more. She said that the pills weren't over yet. Even though she was correctly instructed she thought she only had to take it on the days she had sex.
Fwanc ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it makes her feel better my ex boyfriend thought the same and he grew up in Australia where we have sex ed and healthcare and TV.
kashalot ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually works. That's what OBGYN's recommend when the patient is nauseated/vomiting. Sex hormones are lipophillic (fat soluble) and can be absorbed through a mucous membrane (even skin if prepared right, they make patches). So she was either lying or she didn't put the pills far up enough and they fell out.
Seicair ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:40:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, as soon as I read this I was thinking "...wait... A little unconventional, but that should work, right?"
kashalot ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:02:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep sure does. A little unconventional but if you're nauseated for whatever reason (some women become nauseated from taking the pill itself) it works. Some of these women don't want an implant or an IUD so it is a smart alternative to prevent unwanted pregnancies in this patient population.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In her defense, I read the full instruction sheet that came with my BC pills one day becasue, eh, why not, and it does say that if the pills make you sick and you can't keep them down orally, you should put it in your vagina...
Ariadnepyanfar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:52:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's only one type of pill.
SinisterDirge ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never had them prescribed. I assume there are the same directions listed as anything else prescribed orally?
chinchillazilla54 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:30:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mine specifically say "take one tablet by mouth every day" but I dunno if they all do.
amoaliquis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:05 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This one made me laugh.
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:32 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma did the opposite for a yeast infection. She swallowed the tablet that's supposed to go in your vagina and who knows what she did with the cream.
Norgenigga ยท 178 points ยท Posted at 23:52:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure my grandmother is the person in all these stories.
She fainted the other day. She's on dialysis and is supposed to stay away from red meats and sodium.
When my mom asked what she ate she said a ham sandwich.
It's only now that it's actually threatening her life, but this is what she's been doing for years, even with insurance and a very well paying job at a hospital.
ScifiGirl1986 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:16:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother and yours should get together. About 9 years ago, my grandmother was admitted to the hospital because she had extremely high blood pressure and a slow heart beat. The doctors told her she couldn't have any salt. A week later, we were all eating dinner and my brother sat in what was usually Grandma's seat. As soon as he took a bite of his food, he made such a face that those facing him knew something was wrong. Being a weirdo, he kept eating despite the taste and after dinner he told us that the dish was coated with salt. Apparently, Grandma figured if we didn't see her put the salt in her food, no one would know the difference. From that point ok, we'd wait for her to sneakily pour salt all over her dish and then dump the salt on the floor.
OneGoodRib ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:25:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she just doesn't want to live if it means she can't eat ham?
suqoria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:41:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I get that...
ziburinis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:34:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you know, ham is the other white meat? /s
milkcustard ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 02:32:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I worked as a nurse in urgent care, we had a guy with a bad abrasion on his leg stemming from a fall down a flight of steps. He was prescribed a topical cream, among other things. Directions on the tube: apply to the affected area. Sounds simple enough, right?
Follow-ups, we notice the wound was gross and not healing at all. He insisted he put the cream on the affected area and it just wasn't working for him!
The doctor suspected something, so he had the patient demonstrate how he applied the cream so we can maybe offer some further help. The patient says he can't, because we're not at his house.
And that's where the stairs are.
This man was rubbing the cream on the stairs he fell down because the instructions said to "rub on affected area."
CreatrixAnima ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 04:01:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I refuse to believe this.
milkcustard ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:14:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, there are people like this out there. I don't know what his issue was. It wasn't a language barrier or anything. He was just... I dunno.
CreatrixAnima ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:19:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I won't do it. It challenges my belief that people are reasonable and...
Crap.
The man rubbed cream on his stairs, didn't he?
norsish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care how old you are. If you're old enough to be typing responses on reddit, you should be old enough realize that people are not reasonable.
KnifeKillx100 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:08:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally screamed at my phone after reading this.
milkcustard ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't blame you. I wanted to leave the room when he said that.
hicow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:53:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this dude wasn't otherwise evidently DD? I mean, most of these I can understand, people are poorly educated and whatnot, but WTF was going through this guy's head as to how rubbing cream on his stairs was going to heal a wound on his body?
MakesMyHeadHurt ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:02:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying people like this should die, but sterilization? You know, help control the idiot population, have your idiots spayed or neutered.
milkcustard ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:14:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...he had children.
ScrotumPower ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Too late for a Darwin Award, then.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's OK...Some genes skip generations.
__youcancallmeal__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:18:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was clearly from the shallow end of the gene pool
ScrotumPower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:26:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he wasn't wrong.
Also, The Darwin Awards: in search of smart. Read, cry, laugh, and despair.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to follow your link, but I think it all might be too much for me, right now.
incipit-satan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is no way someone can be that stupid.
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't been around long, have you?
EDIT: or haven't done the right (wrong) job.
avengre ยท 391 points ยท Posted at 22:52:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient with a sebaceous cyst on the back of his neck (infected sweat gland). He asked me if it was an STD...
You have interesting sexual practices my friend..
BarkingLeopard ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:44:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, sebaceous cysts can look like potential nasty sores to lay people.
As far as the STI part, the pt may have been having activity, or may have just been so shocked/lectured by the "don't get STIs" speeches that he forgot where STIs typically show symptoms.
adalida ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was like 12, before I had ever so much as kissed anyone, I got an ingrown pubic hair. Definitely had a moment of panic: "but how could it have...is that toilet seat thing possible?!"
sevjac ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:01:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, syphilis can look like ANYTHING
mangotango1609 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:44:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is quite possible to get HSV-1 on skin throughout the body. While HSV-2 is generally the genital form that people think of in relation to STDs it could be what he was referring to.
adevilnguyen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:54:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my ex got shingles on his neck (went to the doctor TWICE to confirm) and swore that I cheated on him and gave him an STD.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hr doesn't quite get the reverse cowgirl.
ronin1066 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could have been herpes gladiatorum.
avengre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which would be hsv1 and is generally not an std
ronin1066 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, but we common people hear "herpes" and just think STD.
dogGirl666 ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 00:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but a veterinary nurse: During the first Gulf War a soldier came in with his cat. It was still as board--as if the cat was made of plastic. He was a military intelligence officer, yet he still did not know his cat was dead. I hope he did not get PTSD considering how unfamiliar with death he was.
[deleted] ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 00:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the possibility he was already way beyond that line could exist here.
UndeadKitten ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:25:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At 18 a vet nurse (and a brand spanking new one to our area, she and the vet were related somehow and used to dogs and cats, not livestock. They learned fast though) had to physically take my pet goose away from me. On some level I think I knew she was dead (She was cold and limp) but I just couldn't face it. I'd lost my stepdad, my childhood dog and an entire litter of kittens in the span of the last two months and then my goose got savaged by a dog and died on the way to the vet.
I wasn't handling things well, the nurse was so nice and the vet was amazing too. I know they thought I was an insane person, but they still helped me. (They even helped me get my damn cat fixed. Every time I took the cat in to be spayed she was pregnant again and the other vet wouldn't do it while she was even the slightest bit pregnant or in heat. The new folks did her a week after a litter was born and sent me home with bottles to rear the kittens and a discount flyer to get them fixed when the time came. I bottle fed them for about a week, then my cat took back over. No more kittens came of their family line, I got five kittens fixed for $200.)
Re: The Goose, I got the sweetest card with geese on it wishing me peace for my lost girl and a Xmas ornament of webbed footprints from them when I took my cat in.
Come to think of it, other than the jackass who told me my little dog could NOT get heartworms because little dogs are immune so he would not sell me the preventives or do a test(spoiler alert, she got heartworms, it was awful, she is cured now thanks to an awesome clinic and as soon as the snow melts enough to drive she is getting her preventive for January) and the one who wouldn't fix my cat, I have always had awesome vets and vet staff tend my animals. And the guy who wouldn't fix my cat wasn't bad as much as he was kinda weird, super pro-life and handed out pamphlets on abortion in his office. Good for vaccines though and was great for fixing our male animals but my damn cat was his hill to die on.
I choose to believe this is due to people in that line of work naturally being better people in general because I'm fairly sure its not luck. So thanks.
Seicair ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:46:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't really expect to cry in this thread.
hicow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We took our dog in to get spayed when I was a kid a while after she'd had a litter of puppies. The vet said he thought she might be pregant again, but no worries, they'd take care of it while they were spaying her.
Sorry for all your losses. The goose hit me hardest, I think, as I didn't think geese got friendly with people :(
UndeadKitten ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:50:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I miss my geese, they absolutely get friendly. But only with their own people, there's no dog I have ever met as determined as a goose to remove someone who "does not belong". Mine really liked to attack my meth head cousin.
TheSoulOfTheRose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:24 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sympathies on your bereavements. When you say you "lost" an entire litter of kittens, you mean they all died? What happened?
UndeadKitten ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:26 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have no idea, they lived about four days then all were dead one morning. The mother was frantic, some idiot told me animal don't have emotions. Bullshit, she grieved her kittens.
ziburinis ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:40:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 5 years old and I would often bring in the neighbor's cat in the morning. One day I go to pick him up, he's dead. Someone shot him. I told the neighbor the cat's dead. She didn't believe me. Told me to get him. I said he's stiff as a board. She again didn't believe me. So I pick him up, stuffed under my arm and walk up to her. Luckily she wasn't like this guy, when she saw how I was carrying him she started bawling.
AgoraiosBum ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:56:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Sir, this cat is no more. It has ceased to be. It's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late cat. It's a stiff. Bereft of life, it rests in peace."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just started singing the count of monte Christo simply because of that furrrst sentence. Actually follows the cadence well.
riptaway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:41:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Intel officers aren't on the front line
rigred ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But sometimes I really wish they were.
featherdino ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:14:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God damn it this made me real fucken sad
Benu5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have the pet cat in MEAO? Or was this at home?
metalcherry ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:20:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
MEOW, obviously
knight_in_gale ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 03:41:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In medical school, I did a forensic psychiatry rotation. Part of this rotation involved working at the courthouse trying to do assessments of people accused of crimes in an attempt to see if they were competent to stand trial. Sometimes those with severe mental health issues obviously aren't competent to stand trial. Sometimes, those accused were obviously trying to fake being mentally ill to try to get out of the trial. But in a few cases, there were people with some issues, but they weren't really bad issues, they just needed a little education on the US judicial system and how it works. So they put together a class on the judicial system for the prostitutes of DC with no mental health issues, but just no education on how a trial works.
And who would be the best person to lead these classes? The rotating medical student of course.
"So, my name is medical student Knight_in_gale, and we are here today to talk about how the trial system works. Let's start with going through the courtroom and talking about who is who. For instance, who is the person who sits behind the big bench at the head of the room?"
"The judge!"
"That's right! And what does the judge do?"
"He says 'ORDER IN THE COURT!'"
"Yes...he does. But he also is the person in charge of the trial, and in many cases he is the person who you need to convince that you are innocent of a crime. Who is the lawyer that sits next to you."
"He's the fucking man!"
"Yes, he is. He's your defense attorney. He is there to help you plead your case about why you are innocent or why you don't deserve a harsh punishment. Who is the other lawyer in the room?"
"The prostitution!"
"No, actually, you are the prostitution in this case. He is the 'prosecution', though to be fair some people don't see much of a difference."
That was a long rotation. I learned a lot about the difference between doctors and lawyers, and how being uneducated leads not only to poor medical care, but also to not being able to defend yourself in court.
Alatar1313 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:46:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha nice. I'm an attorney who stole a friend's job after she moved over to the prosecutor's office for some inexplicable reason. I'll have to link this post to her.
baconshire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great anecdote. Did you think the people you tutored learned the crucial bits?
barkingspider05 ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 23:48:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surprising number of people that don't know that a broken bone and a fractured bone are the same thing. You try to tell them in layman's terms that a bone is broken. Immediate response is , "well, at least it's not fractured." Other times, you say, " yes, your bone is fractured." In a relieved tone, they reply, " at least it's not broken." There is no winning here.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:59:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, hold up.
I was under the impression that they
wherewere different.I fracture is when the bone is fractured, but not displaced.
A break is when a a bone is broken through and/or displaced.
Have I been wrong all my life?
Toasterferret ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never seen the work "break" used to describe a fracture by any medical professional, and I work in an operating room doing orthopedics all the time. Break is a layman's term.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:06:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get it now.
So it is โ
fractured and displaced = fractured.
fractured but not displaced = fractured.
I guess break or broken, as I understand it, is just a simpler way of describing the type of fracture.
ITT: I learned something! Thank you.
Toasterferret ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. We have lots of adjectives we use to describe fractures, like displaced, non displaced, comminuted, etc.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got it. A dusty cog wheel in my brain turned at your use of the phrase 'layman's term'.
Break or broken in layman's terms would describe certain types of fractures which would not include greenstick or fissure in which are not bones that have broken all the way through.
Patient's brain.
Fracture = Greenstick or fissure: Oh yeah, that'll buff out.
Break = Oblique: Gonna need a new driveshaft.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think what you may be looking for is compound fracture. That's when the bone breaks so bad it tears through and pokes out of the skin, and is likely broken in more than one place. Hairline fracture<spiral fracture<fracture<compound fracture. I didn't learn them all, 'cause I'm lowly on the food chain, but these always got me by. Also, I'm an old fuck, and terms change with time and place.
Don't worry, though. We've all been wrong all our lives. The only hope we have is that we are less wrong with time.
EDIT: after reading the rest of the thread I'm starting to think that displaced fracture is maybe the better term. Like I said - less wrong over time.
ziburinis ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:08:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I watched an old rerun of a show that follows doctors in an ER. This girl had a lacerated liver, and her parents were asking a doctor what happened. They got there after their kid was in surgery. What they got out of it was "So now that she had the surgery done, we'll find out if the liver is lacerated or if it's torn" and they just patiently explained again what was going on.
The same doc had to explain to someone that their daughter had a massive brain injury. Two doctors had explained it to them, but they still didn't understand what was going on until the guy broke it down into very simple terms. You could see on his face, very briefly, that he's thinking "what, 2 doctors already explained this already!" then his compassion kicked in and he was very nice to the people. I don't even think the people realized he had that second of thought.
I think the majority of people don't understand most of the terms used in medicine.
iznotiz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:15:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You came to this conclusion by watching a TV show.
ziburinis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but the show just made it very clear.
pickpocketsly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
=O
Heartkine ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any bone that is broken is a fracture. Fractures can be further classified, stress, non displaced or stable, displaced, transverse, oblique, compound, comminuted, lateral, spiral, green stick, etc.
Lurlur ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:40:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
(Hey Hatefully!)
I always demonstrate this point by asking people which is worse, a break or a fracture?
Break? OK, so I'll just walk off this compound fracture!
Fracture? This green-stick fracture doesn't seem as bad as a broken femur, but OK!
Someone told me they broke their collarbone in two places and fractured it in one place. The rest of our 8 hour shift was dedicated to her trying to prove me wrong...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lurlur :-)
I figured you would know this.
I've conceded that that a break is just a way of explaining certain types of fractures.
Of course it is, that only makes sense. But ...
I wish medical professionals every where the best of wishes on converting the masses :-)
Lurlur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:50:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The masses often prefer their ignorance. I just don't like when I have to convince a medical professional!
(hugs, Hatefully)
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damned if this ain't true. Complicating the lives professionals everywhere.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will stand in awe of the person who walks off a compound fracture. (Or is there some less severe version of technically compound fracture I don't know about?)
Lurlur ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:00:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've skipped the meaning of my comment.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:31 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, not intentional. Although, I admit I do it intentionally sometimes, too.
venlaren ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was always my understanding as well..... but now that I think about it compound fracture is definitely a displaced break.... But Yeah I always took fracture to be more like stress fracture or partial break.
FakeCecil ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:16:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are not wrong.
Lurlur ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:37:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are wrong.
everythingskulls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought.
CrossBreedP ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:36:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought a fracture was when the bone had a break in it that didn't go all the way through (Like a hairline fracture). And a broken bone was when the break went all the way through. I figured since there were two different words that there was a difference... Am I wrong?
Edit: after a bit of googling I am indeed wrong. Well TIL.
TerrorGatorRex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was 6 I broke my arm pretty badly. While it didn't break my skin, you could see it was broken even before I had an x-ray. When I was 7, I "fractured" my other arm. When I mentioned my broken arm, my parents would tell me "it's not broken, it's fractured."
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair: If it's fractured, it is most definitely broken.
crazymcninja ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I thought the same thing... until my fiance and a random nurse in the line at Chipotle told me how stupid I was.
Jrramirez298 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:22:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell them its cracked when its fractured
eazolan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, at least you're winning.
soberdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just start telling them that they grew a new joint.
pink-pink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i thought fractured = broken but not all the way through
tuki ยท 1432 points ยท Posted at 22:33:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Christ, the number of times I have to explain colds to adults. You're 40 years old, you've probably had 100 of these, how have you not figured this out yet?? Do you come to the doctor every time??? Antibiotics won't help, drink fluids, sudafed, and write this shit down for next time
PigsJillyJiggs ยท 1225 points ยท Posted at 00:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
also, I need a doctor's note for missing work. Yes, I'm an adult. Yes, I know its ridiculous.
LazyWings ยท 512 points ยท Posted at 00:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly this. It's naive to think that people are so stupid they go to the doctor for a cold but the truth is it's just bureaucracy making you go. If you're too ill to work due to a virus you still have to go to the doctor to "prove" you're ill.
superace85 ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 05:43:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love this logic. "You're too sick to leave your house to come to work." "You'd better leave your house to go to the doctor to prove it, or you're getting written up!"
Crystalinfire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:53:10 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boss/work thought I called in too many times, so then I had to have a note every time I called in sick. Oh, I was full time so I got sick pay but you know that doctor you made me see yeah it cost a days wages to pay him for that doctors note/office visit. Super fun to sit there for an hour or so and wonder what what else I was getting exposed too/ exposing other people to my cold/flu/what have you. Then I pay for medicine on top of it but I'm having lots of fun not being at work......
scampwild ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 02:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A nice $50-100 fine for missing work.
fritopie ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:48:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$25 copay for me. Plus the doctor will prescribe me the good shit that actually works when it comes to shutting down the snot factory enough so I can sleep. If they'd sell that shit OTC or if I could just call up my Dr and be like "Yo, I've got a fuckin cold. I know it. You know it. Your receptionist knows it. None of y'all want it so I'm not going bother showing up. Here's my $25, call in that script plz. Kthanxbye."
johnqevil ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:37:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Look into something called Teladoc. We have this on our plan. You don't have to go anywhere to get a prescription done.
vizard0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My insurance pushes using something like this. It costs them less and thus costs me less. (I think it's $8 or so through them.)
fritopie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like it's something you have a paid subscription to? If my insurance doesn't cover it, I'm not willing to pay for it really. Not for something as minor as this. I'm young, healthy, and I get sick maybe once every 2-3 years.
Oh wait... I found this on google "At $40 or less per consultation, Teladoc costs significantly less than urgent care and emergency room visits. Plus, you can use Teladoc from the convenience of home or work, allowing you to avoid the hassle of sitting in a waiting room." Eh... sorry my copay is only $25 and my doctor is pretty good about his scheduling so there's rarely more than a 5 minute wait in his office. And if I'm feeling bad enough to go to the emergency room... then I probably belong in the emergency room. Now if my psychologist could do something like this... I'd be game. I have to go look at that fucker every 4 months for him to tell me "alright, well... we will just stick with this as long as it's working. here's your crazy pills."
LazyWings ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:30:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NHS ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Edit: someone help me with this formatting, always confuses me
irisheye37 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:37:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Put 3 backslashes
shapu ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:39:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NHS ยฏ3 backslashes_(ใ)/
EDIT: No good. Now what?
irisheye37 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:50:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No you did it right.
LazyWings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thank you kindly
Cpt_Tripps ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:53:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฏ\\_(ใ)\_/ยฏ
like this but please don't ask me to show you how to make this one explaining how to make the first one.
Djinjja-Ninja ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, employers can only require a sick note after 7 days of absence:
Anything less than 7 days is self certified.
Ahundred ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try making that argument tho.
Parallax151 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:14:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That very likely depends on the state.
pete904ni ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like any time a discussion around employment matters comes up on reddit, people affected by bullshit policies and borderline illegal rules won't be working high paying jobs with plenty in savings, they'll be people on low income working paycheck to paycheck. And those asshole employers know it.
It's all well and good having the law on your side or a solid case to sue, but who pays the bills when you're suspend/fired pending litigation that will take YEARS, then blackballed in that industry in that area for causing trouble?
Djinjja-Ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is specifically the UK as it was a reply to:
Harvey_Wall_banger ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 05:24:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have to do this tons for common colds or gastro it got the point where my family doctor would simply say ring me at the clinic and I'll email you a sick certificate You can print and if they have issues your boss can call me directly where i'll tell him to get fucked because I can't talk about your sickness.
amoaliquis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your doctor is amaziballs.
Harvey_Wall_banger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think it was more because a) they bulk billed so they could charge me without charging me personally the the government pays them and b) theyd rather i not waste their time with a 20 minute visit for something they cant really do anything about e.g. the flu were you need bed rest.
Crystalinfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god that sounds awesome!! I wonder if I can get someone to do that in the future!
Harvey_Wall_banger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:36 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We knew this doctor pretty well. He saw my mum when she first found the limo that developed into Breast cancer, and was there after the removal for follow up appointments so we saw him Pretty regularly.
LifeOfTheUnparty ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:54:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See, this is why I need to marry a doctor. They'll sign the note and I can stay home.
Parallax151 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:16:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was one of the few good things about my mother growing up. She was a nurse so she had access to doctors to write me notes for school so that my absences wouldn't count.
Missed a ton of school without it holding me back (still graduated with honors and did all of my missed work I just hated waking up early).
InsOmNomNomnia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:29:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're saying you're the exact reason the stupid sick note rule exists and your mother enabled your playing hookie?
Parallax151 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No because we had notes so why would they invoke a note rule to stop me?
The note rule was for kids playing hookie without notes. That rule existed when I went into school already. So I followed the rule and got a bunch of notes which meant technically I never missed a day of school according to their system.
InsOmNomNomnia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My point is that you gamed the system in the way the note rule is meant to prevent. You played sick so you could get out of school and your parents were enablers.
I'm all for people taking a mental day off work or school every once in a while, but people like you who don't go because you "don't feel like getting up early" is the reason the dumb rule exists in the first place.
tortusrex ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:07:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes this! Absolutely ridiculous that adults have to get a note just to take a day off work.
pete904ni ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:31:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If adults didn't call in sick for hangovers every Monday morning the rest of us wouldn't have to deal with this shit.
tortusrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Punish the masses for the sins of the few... I hate those kinds of fucking policies. Grow some balls and punish the ones you know are breaking the rules!
pete904ni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because those same few cry the loudest about being picked on. As adults.
alittlegnome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:44:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whats worse is when its impossible to get an appointment soon enough, so you go to work while you're sick, and then by the time you get to the doctor you're better.
pink-pink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my boss is pretty good with this, can get away with a few days without a sick note
NoseFlock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
housecall time! the system where I am you just say you need a work note when you book the housecall then they basically just stop by to drop it off and make sure you're not dehydrated. Max 5 minutes and I don't pay!
beaglemama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of socialist utopia is that?
TableWallFurnace ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 02:01:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a sad reality. Instead of letting them stay home and recuperate, employers will make sick people haul themselves to a clinic and expose other people to their nastiness. I know doctors that will send harshly-worded sick notes to employers with their patients with words to that effect.
MyActualNameIsCarl ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 03:03:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who cares about the rest and recuperate part, from an employers point of view? I'd be way more concerned about somebody coming to work and infecting my entire workplace. Now you have 20+ employees half assing everything because they can't breathe and can't see properly.
Some workplaces are so dumb.
iwrestledasharkonce ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the worst of my food service career, I had a good coughing-fit respiratory bug but was forced to come into work under the threat of being fired. I came in with a cold another time and was scolded for ducking into the backroom to blow my nose and wash my hands.
On other occasions, I was scolded for taking time to remove my apron to take the (often dripping) trash out and to go to the bathroom, and taking time to wash my hands whenever I came back on the floor from these tasks.
The reason? "My ass is on the line for every transaction you don't make." Ah, food service.
willputh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't say how many days I went to work absolutely sick as a manager completely hopped upon meds because there is no such thing as "days off." I don't miss it in the slightest, except for human interaction. It turns out Siri is not as fun to talk with as real humans.
Fuzzymoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:02 on January 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Egh I was at work one day and started throwing up, luckily I managed to get to the bathroom in time each time I was ill. So I mentioned to my boss that I was ill and should probably go home and see a doctor. I got asked if I could just "suck it up"
ArcherofArchet ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a boss once who said that if you can drag yourself to the doctor, you can drag yourself to work. No sick days were allowed, period... unless you were literally hospitalized.
In that case, you could take unpaid time.
(Before the storm ensues, this was about 6 or 7 years ago, and since then, my state mandates 3 days of paid sick leave for all employees. No clue on jerk boss's stance since then, it was a short-term gig for me and I never looked back.)
treycook ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:45:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's absolutely right though. You can drag yourself to work.
Bad news for him is that you can also get him sick, your coworkers sick, you productivity and concentration suffers, you're more prone to making costly errors that have to be fixed, or if it's a physical job you're more prone to getting yourself injured and then he has to pay workman's comp.
But hey, you know, you can physically transport yourself to work!
NoDoThis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:31:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man I wish my doctor would. I had to ask my dad to drive me to the doctor because I was so sick a few weeks ago. I'm in my early 30's. I told my boss, "I can't come in, I can't really be more than 10 feet from a toilet right now." "We'll need a note." I almost wish I had thrown up or shat all over my dad's car, I absolutely would have brought them a bill for the cleaning.
mouth_with_a_merc ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really like my workplace - you only need a doctor's certificate for >3 consecutive days or if you already spent ~7 sick days in the current year without a cert.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:39:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to do this once and just told the doctor right away, yes I know antibiotics won't fix this but I'll be facing a shitshow at work if I don't have a doctors note for the absence, yes it's stupid.
I think the doctor just felt kinda bad for me so she gave me a note for like 2 more days off than what was really necessary for a cold.
sumptin_wierd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:46:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've asked for doctors notes, but only with people that claim they are going to the er and those who are habitually sick. Either they have some serious health issues and need to see a doctor, or they are lying.
Parallax151 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah if I'm calling off for over 3 days I need to spend money I don't have to see a Doctor for them to tell me I need to rest and drink.
If Doctor's had a "we write you a work note for $20" service many of us would save money and they'd make more money for less work.
punkwalrus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:04:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hated this from work that required it. One doctor just wrote the note on a prescription pad. My boss didn't believe it because it didn't have an official letterhead, so he called my doctor and they refused to speak to him (HIPAA and all). He counted this as me making it up, I got fired.
nathicana13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And most doctor's would rather you not come in to their office with your bug.
dragon34 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only need one if I miss more than 3 days in a row, but generally if I'm down for 3 days in a row, I'm too fucking sick to drive.
floyd41376 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry I can only upvote your answer once.
RememberKoomValley ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:55:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a doctor friend who would hand those out like candy. Along with a five-minute diatribe about how fucking stupid it is to require them.
minecraft_ece ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not just fake the note? Thanks to HIPAA it is not possible for the employer to verify the note.
Skyemonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not alone! I need one, too.
Throwaway34566543 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who do doctors get their doctors note from?
rigsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what. Can't you self-certify for the first three days?
Vaadwaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The one thing I really like about the practice I go to is that if you let them know beforehand that you need a note the doctor doesn't give you shit about it.
meowqct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28 and will be attending a private college in March in Canada. They advised me that a doctor's note is required....
Jmanorama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I need a doctors note for anything and everything at my work. I swear it's like they like paperwork.
smidgit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At my place its self certification for 1-2 days (basically a note saying yes I have the illness) and any longer its a doctors note (because then we get statutory sick pay from the government)
CatLadyNurse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was partway through my nursing school program, the administration tried to change the rule so the students had to get a provider's note for even ONE day missed of clinicals. Most of the professors were nurse practitioners so it didn't fly. Most of them were not just professors and researchers but were still seeing patients in the community. They thought the work-note thing for ONE day of missed time was asinine (it was a pet-peeve for them at their practices) so there was a big fight. Also, duh, we were in clinicals with vulnerable patients and our clinical sites didn't want us coming in sick. And the school insurance was so horrible that we only got one free Dr.'s appt a year. So, yeah, we didn't want to waste it on getting a stupid note for a cold. The email we got telling us nursing students about the new rule was followed up in two days with a contrite "never mind" email.
ReallyHadToFixThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My old job required a doctor's note for a single day absence. It was fucking ridiculous. I'm an adult, I know when I'm fucking sick and mostly I'm taking a day off so I don't infect everyone else.
IsBothTunaAndChicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My employer has a "no-fault" attendance policy. Meaning they don't care why you aren't coming in but you can only miss 6 days in a year. Even a doctor's note won't save you if you miss more than that. Also, I live in an "at-will" employment state so you can and will get fired for missing more than the allotted 6 days a year.
Cylon_Toast ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 04:43:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why are you missing work because of a cold?
whyisthissticky ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 23:06:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's because doctors still give them an RX for antibiotics every time they come in.
sashafurgang ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 00:01:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is just infuriating. My mother and grandmother will also share each other's antibiotics "just in case". I've tried to reason with them. They are NOT capable of understanding that not all infections require diabetics, and that just taking antibiotics profilactically is not effective.
turnedoffTVgrey ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 00:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the same argument with my boyfriend's mom every time!
ME: "Oh I'm not feeling all that great, I think I'm just getting a little cold."
HER: "Do you want some antibiotics? I still have some somewhere around here from the last time I was sick."
(BTW This means she either A.) Didn't finish her prescription, which is a no-no or B.) Got the prescription called in and was felling better by the time she picked it up because she had, you know, a cold.)
ME: "Well, no, thanks. Antibiotics won't do anything because it's a virus not bacteria. You don't take antibiotics for a cold, you just have to wait it out."
HER: (gives me this look like I'm just a sweet dummy that doesn't know what I'm talking about. Why would her doctor give her a prescription she didn't need??)
It's so aggravating. I understand that it sucks to have a cold and you want something to make you feel better but antibiotics aren't the answer. Doctors that write prescriptions for them for every illness are doing their patients a disservice by not explaining how they work.
fucktardskunch ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 00:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno if I rage internally more than I do talking to someone who assumes you're misinformed and have no idea they're, for a fact, wrong.
Like chess with a pidgeon. They'll just peck the pieces over, take a shit and and act like they won.
steals_fluffy_dogs ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:01:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I'm using that pigeon thing later. That is great.
I don't think anything is more infuriating than trying to educate somebody who thinks you have no clue. It's worse when it's something you're very familiar with and the absolute worst when it's something you are formally educated about and/or related to your career. I paid thousands of dollars for people to teach me this now I get paid to know about it, but yeah sure my aunt's weird friend. You're totally right, I'm obviously wrong, and you should keep looking at me with that stupid patronizing expression.
fucktardskunch ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd pay an equal amount to wipe those condescending, patronizing looks off their faces. I get you, 100%.
turnedoffTVgrey ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I have a coworker like this. He will be totally 100% wrong and argue with me until the bitter end. I haven't figured out who is the bigger idiot- him for being wrong or me for not learning not to argue with him.
HotPickledOkra ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:34:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It reminds me of that Mark Twain quote "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
Sardoodledum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:47:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So my first semester of college my roommate was diagnosed with a sinus infection by the campus doctor. He gave her an antibiotic. She takes it and then an hour later starts complaining that it's not working. I tried to explain to her that's not how an antibiotic works and maybe she should rest. She scoffed at me like she couldn't understand how I even got into college. A few hours later she's on the phone to her doctor at home because she's still not feeling any better even though she took ONE antibiotic. So I'm thinking, good, the doctor will tell her these things take time and it needs to run it's course. But NO. He tells her the campus doctor is a quack and prescribes her a different antibiotic. Next day she gets that filled and takes one and proclaims that she's already feeling better. All I could do was nod my head and say "Of course you are!"
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank the gods drug companies can advertise directly to dumbass patients.
Mezmorizor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:57:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But you can't actually know whether or not it's a virus or a bacterial infection unless it's something obvious like flu or strep.
turnedoffTVgrey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right, you can't always tell, but we've all had colds and generally know what they feel like. The general rule I've heard (don't quote me but it's something like) if you're not feeling better/start feeling worse after 3-4 days and/or you have a fever over 102F, go see your doctor. I'm not saying no one should ever go to the doctor if they have the symptoms of a cold, but rather really assess if you need medical intervention and give it a chance a chance to go away on its own first.
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captainbluemuffins ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:41:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They gave me this doxycycline for my acne, but it's an antibiotic-- take it for your flu!
passwordforgeterer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And don't be scared to give it to your 2 year old to help with their sniffles. What warnings about dental problems in kids?
captainbluemuffins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those tetracyclines and their shenanigans!
BlumBlumShub ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:40:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't aware there were any infections that require diabetics.
:)
Ralith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact: this type of behavior is one of the reasons antibiotic-resistant illnesses are a looming threat!
EyesOfEnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom's friend used to take cruises to Mexico every year and would bring back boxes (like 50-100 10 dose packs) of amoxicillin. We got that shit for every sniffle sneeze or cough. Mom knows better now but looking back makes me cringe.
RunningUpThtHill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend takes a single dose of antibiotics for colds. She offered me some cold medicine when I was sick and I obviously read the package.
isfturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:25 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how antibiotic-resistant bacteria evolve.
Bradillac ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:47:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, and it's freaking ridiculous. There's a reason we have these new antibiotic-resistant super bugs coming out of nowhere.
imminent_riot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 34 and I think I've taken antibiotics 6/7 times in my life because my doctors have been smart and didn't just randomly prescribe them.
drsamtam ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:26:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does malpractice just not exist? This is how you get antibiotic resistant superbugs!
whyisthissticky ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:38:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some doctors just want to get the patient out of there and move on, that's the fastest way. Some doctors' reimbursement is based on patient satisfaction, so they feel like they have to do whatever they can to make the patient happy so that they can get paid for their services.
TOASTEngineer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:39:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They should really allow doctors to prescribe placebos for this kind of purpose.
Tasgall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:23:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what homeopathic remedies are for.
drsamtam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is several kinds of fucked up.
theycallmecrabclaws ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had a prescription for antibiotics (for something that actually needed them). I needed to take 450mg, so the doc prescribed X number of 300mg pill and X number of 150mg pills. Apparently they came through to the pharmacy as two separate prescriptions.
The pharmacist gave me the 150mg prescription, but wouldn't fill the 300mg prescription because they were out of 300mg pills. It took me close to 30 minutes to convince them that a) it was unsafe to give me only a portion of my prescribed antibiotics and b) they could just give me double the amount of the 150mg pills for the 300mg pill prescription. smdh.
whyisthissticky ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:47:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In most cases the pharmacist would legally need to consult the doctor before changing the dosage form from the way way it's written. That's what the pharmacist should have done. It came in as two separate prescriptions, because it's two different strengths. The doc could have written something like take 1 every day in addition to 1 150mg capsule every day.
theycallmecrabclaws ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that, but they tried to just sell me the one prescription and send me away without any counseling on not starting it until I had enough or making sure that I got more in time to continue the dosing. I think, as a healthcare provider, that's super dangerous and unprofessional. If they had just said "hey we can't fill both right now, so you're not going to be able to start the course because you can't stop antibiotics early" so be it. To just give me 1/3 of my prescription and try to send me away... if I hadn't been clever enough to understand the issue that could have been problematic. (Not that I think I'm particularly clever but in my city especially, and really in general, they should be assuming people are dumb.)
whyisthissticky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with you. They should have contacted the doc to change the RX or not dispensed it at that time.
TheBlindCat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:47:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep Clindamycin dosing sucks like that, I just end up writing 3x150mg to make it simpler.
PlymouthSea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This happens with adult patients that have muscle diseases and dysphagia as well, due to the dosing of elixir antibiotics.
Seems impossible to get it sorted pre-emptively. There's always a delay at the pharmacy and phone calls required.
Bobcatluv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle is a hypochondriac. He's had "sinus infections" off and on for years and takes pseudophedrine so often he maxes out the legal amount you're allowed to buy every month (or whatever the time limit is). I am not a medical professional but surmise he may have allergies, because he gets pretty congested. He is a life long smoker and now vapes, which is, in his mind, practically a health treatment. He is not a person who takes personal responsibility at all for his problems.
He is on Medicaid and his doctors dole out antibiotics to him like it's candy. Yesterday, he was sick again and told me over the phone he got a Zpack. I rolled my eyes but figured, whatever it's done.
Today he texts me and says he's going back to the doctor because he doesn't feel better. I was thinking, yeah, no shit; it's been less than 24 hrs since you saw the doc AND you likely have a problem that can't be cured by antibiotics!
Anyhow, I know my uncle is probably just a pain in the ass to the point that whoever he sees just gives him the meds to get him out of their face, but I wish someone would stand up to him.
fantasticmuse ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like as a grown up I can't get a cold that doesn't wind up with me going to the doctors. It's 10 days later and I still have a fever over 102 and my throat is raw and bleeding from coughing, but still no bacterial infection. It happens once every year or two, and I know all that the only thing that can be done is steroids if it gets bad enough but... It's like...well..what else do you do?
sirophiuchus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you an asthmatic? Apparently that's why all my colds/flus are miserable.
fantasticmuse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:13:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had childhood asthma, so maybe.
sirophiuchus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:16:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you haven't told your doctor that, might be a good idea. If you don't have an 'emergency' inhaler prescription, you probably should.
Not a physician.
mylifeisprettyplain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I have a lot of allergies and sinus trouble. When I get the "common cold" I'm down for at least two weeks, closer to a month. If I'm still sick at the three week mark I'll go to the doctor. Usually still no infection but they do give me super cough meds and a decongestant.
fantasticmuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know they teach us how to not get sick (wash your hands, etc.) and what to do when you are sick (drink fluids, etc.) but aren't there any instructions for how to get LESS sick???
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure a fever lasting 2 weeks is bad.
fantasticmuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was only for secondary symptoms, like a lingering cough? Pretty sure my doc said a week for a fever.
Rebootkid ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would, but my shitty job requires a doctor's note for medical absences.
Might as well have you repeat it to me since I've gotta pay just the same.
Cymelion ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:12:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Australia we need medical certificates to get covered by sick leave.
So we have to trudge to the doctor out in public hacking and sneazing all to get a piece of paper that a doctor agrees we're contagious and should not be around other people to go home collapse and then bring the certificate into work when we're better.
OhSolios ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:10:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes - and for asthma attacks. You can't get to the doctor until you're through it and you're so exhausted afterwards you just need to sleep for a day. So you get to the doctor once you're ok again. And yes, I know people will say 'call an ambulance ' but then you end up in hospital for a week.
archomps ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:37:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ha, jokes on you Mister Smart Doctor Man! It's called a cold - it's literally in the name. It's not your fancy "viruses" and "phages" and "twitterbooks," it's strictly about being in outside temperatures which weakens your immune system which allows the devil to infect your respiratory tract and make you cold. I bet you don't even know how to balance someone's humors. I could do more with a leech and a hammer than you could with all your fancy lab coats and noses stuffed with herbs.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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archomps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pfft, more fancy doctors and med students want you to believe this crap so they can get you to pay for fewer leeches and hammers.
Cankleking ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:38:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of people who think antibiotics will cure their cold is pathetic. Furthermore, the amount of doctors that prescribe antibiotics for colds is also pathetic, although I'm sure there reason is for greed rather than stupidity.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:26:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think it's greed as I don't believe doctors make much from writing a script for zpac. I think it's more like a person is following you around poking you repeatedly in the back with their finger. Finally you give them whatever it is to make them stop. Only to have someone else walk in and start poking you again. I think theyre tired of trying to explain and are just giving in.
EyesOfEnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Equally annoying are the ones that tell you to eat more vitamin C because it'll cure your cold. It may help your immune system a tiny bit but the only real cure for a cold is time and we are locked in at 1 second per second so ya gotta be patient.
risingrah ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:20:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother once bought me allergy medication when I asked her to pick up something for a runny nose. I
have one obscure allergy to a bubble bath ingredient that no one uses anymoredon't have allergies. I had to tell her that allergy medication is not recommended to treat cold symptoms, and that I don't even have allergies in the first place. She then tried to argue that I could be having an allergic reaction to my turtle.Who is allergic to turtles?! And why would my only symptom be a runny nose?!
TeaAndTacos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Antihistamines are in both cold medicines and allergy medicines that treat runny noses, so there is overlap, but your grandmother was still being ridiculous. (...allergic to your turtle. Seriously? It could happen, but as an argument that she'd bought the correct thing after all, that's a bit of a reach.)
cyberrat12 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:36:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see people come to the ED all the time for this. "Chicken soup...sit on the couch...you know" "Yeah but I don't feel well" "Yeah...shrug you are sick"
DangerDamage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does their throat hurt?
Because if it does I think that's a good enough excuse to check if you don't have strep or something.
I used to get "colds" except I never had stuffy noses etc, just fevers and terrible sore throats.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fever + Sore Throat - stuffy nose is a good indicator you have strep. Source: I had strep a few years ago and I had a high fever and a terrible sore throat and that's it.
breakingborderline ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, secondary bacterial infections are a thing....
RumandWork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a salesmen. I get incentivised to sell as much as possible, I lose my career otherwise. There are so many misconceptions about what liquids are good for you when you're sick and what liquids are not, and companies just take that and roll with it.
No, the Dole pineapple juice with 3 cups of sugar per liter will not hydrate you because the graphic looks fresh and says "Now with 25% more vitamin C". No, 6L of Ginger Ale will not hydrate you because it "Contains real ginger."
Water hydrates you. H2O. No, it dosen't taste like sugar, but it will stop you from passing out.
Unfortunately, the average person spends a lot more time with me then you.
mimsy_love ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate going to the doctor because I know they're going to say, "it's viral there isn't anything we can do,"
But I need a sick note, so I have no other choice.
Lachwen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had a cold that lasted almost two weeks. I went to the doctor because I needed something stronger than off-the-shelf cough syrup so I could actually sleep at night instead of staying up coughing.
He prescribed Tessalon. It worked wonders.
Also, I needed a doctor's note so I wouldn't get written up for not taking my sick self to work and spreading my viral bullshit to the rest of the office.
isfturtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:08 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me: I'm not feeling well. It's probably a virus.
Mom: You need to go to the doctor.
Me: They're just going to tell me it's a virus and all they can do is treat the symptoms, which I'm already doing.
Mom: You need to go to the doctor.
Me: goes to the doctor
Doctor: It's a virus and all we can do is treat the symptoms.
Yes, I just wasted time and money confirming what I already knew.
LeftZer0 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:37:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still go to urgent care if I'm feeling specially bad to make sure I have a cold, and not something more dangerous. I don't pay for visits, though.
PM_ME_YOUR_FIXIGENA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I'm 21 and I've had maybe one cold that was actually bad enough to be more than a mild inconvenience.
Bizarrmenian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Doc, I have a recurring sinus infection. It's not like a cold, but should I keep going to the doctor's office every time it comes up?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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passwordforgeterer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to get these! Some people seem to grow out of them (I think that's what happened to me?) but using a neti-pot nasal rinse thing also helped a lot, more than the antibiotics seemed to. Also humidifier, sudafed, and mucinex when it gets bad.
If you have allergies, nasal steriods like nasacort are kind of awesome and work better for me than the other products. But it seems like it's sort of a "try something till you find what works" kind of problem.
DinerWaitress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They usually get prescribed antibiotics so there's an expectation.
Mr_Fuzzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the worst cold/stomach flu combination right now. I've gone from being dizzy to nauseated to diarrhea for day and now have a racking cough and headache to boot.
Every. Single. Person. In my family has begged me to go to the doctor so they could give me something for it. Give me what? Antibiotics for what's probably a couple of viruses playing nasty with my immune system? Nope. Not wasting time or money on it.
notyounow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr's note for work, man.
PandaGPiggy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, sometimes people who most likely have a cold and go to a doctor anyway is for the benefit of someone they are close to who has a weakened/compromised immune system
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a rehab/nursing home. The adult (African-American) son of a newish elderly resident got mad at me because his mom caught a head cold because "You gave her a shower and all African-Americans get chilly after a shower and that's why she got sick!" I tried to explain that that's not how the immune system works, or pathogenic illnesses, but he wouldn't listen to me. When her next shower day arrived, he wouldn't let me bathe her. :(
FormlessAllness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always go in because I get bacterial sinus infections. I know exactly how they feel. I know the stages. I know the minute I get them. I go in because the doctor says come back in a week. Now I just say I had this for five days. Get my script and run the antibiotics. I get better near the end of the script. The few times I don't go I get extremely sick for a month. Then I end up getting a script.
AnonymousWritings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a doctor for a cold a year or so ago.
In my defense, It was lasting longer then usual, and I was temporarily paranoid about medical issues as one co-worker had gotten a rediculous case of pink-eye in both eyes after refusing to go to the doctor for a week, and another was away for a while with some sort of bacterial respiratory thing for similar reasons.
They gave me a chest x-ray then sent me home and told me to take some advil
EEHealthy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go if I can't shake my cold. Sometimes I need RX scripts and sometimes it turns into a sinus infection. I have a lovely deveated septum that causes me migraines and sinus problems.
crochetmeteorologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband wanted me to go to a doctor for a cold a couple weeks ago and got upset when I said that it would be ridiculous to go to a doctor for a cold.
monirod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom, who grew up in another country, believes that if you get a flu shot, you will not get any kind of sickness. Just last month, I called her and said she was sick and she said "but I got vaccinated, why do I always get sick after my flu shot?" I'm assuming she lets her guard down and thinks this time she won't get sick. I explain to her every year that it just protects from getting the flu, not always, but you can still catch a cold or other sickness. Edit: forgot to mention my mom is in her 60's and has lived in the US for 40+ years.
Teomalan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, in order to take a sick day from work and stay home to get the rest the doctors want, I have to go to the doctors and get a sick note to excuse me from work for the day... my take home pay is a little over $60 a day and the doctor copay is $45...
ProxyReBorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100 colds by age 40 is more than 2 a year. People don't really get sick that often, right?
BannaMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went it because I was afraid it was pinkeye.
margothaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are signs that it isn't just a cold? Asking because my whole life I've been plagued with pneumonia and various chest/lung infections, so when I see my doctor for what I think is a bad cold, i usually end up on antibiotics. But sometimes it is just a bad cold and I feel awful for wasting everyone's time :(
Gravesh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. My family is always telling me to go to the doctor when I'm sick. I say every time "What are they going to do?". What do they expect? They aren't miracle workers and taking antibiotics for every sniffle is a good way to make sure they'll never work again for you as medicine in 20 years time.
spaghatta111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just had a coworker call out of work because she had "the full blown FLU."
Was she sick? Yes. Was she justified in calling out of work (we are travel consultants - our voice is needed to work)? Yes.
But she came back to work 1-2 days later.... She did not have the flu
I had the flu last year and I was sick for about 2 weeks. I couldn't think straight, much less take a cough drop and come back to work after a day or two. When you have the flu, trust me, you fucking know
Matt872000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here in Korea, people go to the doctor for EVERYTHING. My coworker had a stomach ache and the boss thought it was crazy that he hadn't been to the doctor. The stomach ache passed in a few hours and he was fine.
_Bucket_Of_Truth_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last semester I had class with an older guy who had to be 60 or so and was getting his fourth degree basically for fun. He was a nice guy and I was friendly with him, and during the semester colds were going around. I missed class and he asked where I was, and I told him I had a cold. He told me he also got a cold and went to the doctor for antibiotics which seemed to clear him up. I didn't have the heart to tell him that antibiotics don't do shit for colds and you really shouldn't take them unless you need them.
I spent a lot of time in and out of the hospital in 2015 and on a lot of antibiotics for numerous infections. If I didn't have antibiotics I would probably be dead right now. I don't understand why doctors prescribe them to people for a fucking cold.
Storm-Of-Aeons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're there for the codeine of course!
kid10j ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's much better to be safe than sorry. Better than not going and ending up like half the stories on this thread though I do see your point.
shadowscar00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 18 and coming down with my first ever cold right now. Please kill me. This is pain.
kucky94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In New Zealand they have this things called ACC so if you have an accident and go to a private healthcare provider ACC will cover the cost. My mum is a nurse and said people would bring their children in for quite literally a grazed knee. She would very patronisingly talk the parent through what she was doing...."I'm going to wash the graze with an antibacterial wash then I'm going to put a plaster (band aid) on it and it's done".
Nohat_wears_a_hat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was working I had to go see a doctor if I missed any time for even a cold or I'd be fired. Yes we had frequent absence because it was a call center with us tightly packed in so colds would rip through the place like crazy all the time, and yes we had a crazy high turnover rate and no I can't have time off to go see a doctor for preventative care...
theoriginalj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Even very smart adults with higher degrees that work for Google. I Still have to explain that.
Coffeedrinkinkaufy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude. Yes. I am not allowed to call in sick, I have to show up, 'prove' i need to go to sick call, drive across base to medical, wait for over an hr, maybe be able convince some LT that's 7 years younger than me and says I'm faking it that yes I'm sick, then go down to pharmacy and wait another 1.5 hrs, then if im lucky my command will honor the sick in quarters (sick day) recommendation from the doc. Drop off medical form to boss man, hope he says go home (yes they can deny), then go home and pray motrin and Sudafed works for whatever unearthly sickness got me this time.
fanamana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In many parts of america now you can't get any kind of sudafed without a prescription.
Now they use pseudo-Pseudoephedrine in all the OTC mixes and it is a fucking placebo.
Jake0024 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think some people just psychologically feel better thinking someone is taking care of them.
gumbiskhan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about most people, but for my job I am required to get a note from a doctor if I call out sick. Mind you it is a retail job, but it is vaguely insulting to be treated like a child who needs a note to prove I was sick, but I can get denied my raise come review time if I don't get the notes, so there I am in the waiting room knowing all I really need is rest and fluids, but unable to just stay at home in bed cause my job treats me like a child.
JetstreamGW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:12 on May 30, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... So... uh... You expect someone to be able to tell the difference between a viral and bacterial infection?
This, uh, this is kinda the opposite of the advice I typically hear from doctors.
tuki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:07 on May 31, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Colds are always viral. Are you a relatively healthy person with cold symptoms? You have a cold.
scarletfbl ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 01:01:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my aunt is an RN (registered nurse) and she still swears to this day that women pee out of their clitoris. A mutual friend (who was studying to be an RN along with my aunt) got into a huge fight with her about it.
I feel bad for anyone who may be her patient.
luqi_charmz ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:15:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope she never has to insert a catheter.
norsish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:52:38 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, God.
Crystalinfire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:27:36 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just to say this apparently there is some lee way where your urethra actually is. I was helping a nurse install a catheter in a grown mentally retarded woman and the nurse said her urethra was actually at the front of that patients vagina.
luqi_charmz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:23:35 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. It's amazing how bodies differ between people. Also, please don't use the word "retarded" . It hasn't been an acceptable term for many years. A more appropriate term would be "learning disabled/delayed" or "developmentally disabled /delayed.
SnArL817 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:44:27 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reยทtard
verb
verb: retard; 3rd person present: retards; past tense: retarded; past participle: retarded; gerund or present participle: retarding riหtรคrd/
In this context, "mentally retarded" is absolutely correct. "Learning or developmentally disabled/delayed" is LITERALLY the same thing.
"Don't call that color red, it's offensive. Magenta is more appropriate."
SavvySillybug ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:08:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THANK YOU for actually explaining your acronyms before using them. I hate it when people randomly throw a three letter thing into their post and expect everyone to know what that is.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:47:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
scarletfbl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what she was talking about.
Mazon_Del ยท 1102 points ยท Posted at 22:27:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my favorite story from the last time this topic came up.
A woman came to her obgyn for an exam as she had an infection of some sort. The doctor did the exam and asked the usual questions "Are you sexually active, etc." and nothing seemed to obviously be the case. At some point though, the woman lets slip that she's sick and tired of dealing with this infection that she's had her whole life. That perks up the doctors antennae and so the doctor tentatively asked her which direction she wiped when she uses the toilet. This 30-something year old woman had been wiping back to front her whole life and didn't have any idea of the problems that could, and was, leading to.
whatmonsters ยท 702 points ยท Posted at 22:49:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not even as wild as some others but my entire vagina just clenched in sympathy. She spent her entire damn life in pain down there for something that could have been solved for a simple explanation? I'm mad on her behalf that nobody ever fucking said anything to her before you. Jesus fucking Christ. No more internet for me today.
Nackles ยท 242 points ยท Posted at 00:16:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I had ingrown toenails for YEARS and it was agonizing, and then someone was like "Don't cut your nails down into the corners." From that moment on, I've never had another one--like SERIOUSLY, some things you really should tell us!
Youthro ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... what do you mean???
baconandicecreamyum ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 01:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't cut your toenails like fingernails. Toenails should be cut straight across only.
[deleted] ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 01:04:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God damn it.
TSKDeCiBel ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:52:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm... ashamed to admit I learned something today.
GameMusic ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... Wow
effyocouch ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:51:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit.
tonysalami ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:11:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never cut my toenails straight across, and I've never had an ingrown toe nail. Maybe I'm not cutting the corners in enough for this to happen?
AbsentThatDay ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 01:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you cut your nails, don't follow the profile of your toe so much. Make the end cut straighter than your toe, so the edges don't dig into your skin as they grow.
Youthro ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:35:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at my nails now, the sides curve pretty far down but it's not at all painful. I'll start cutting them correctly but do you think I should see a doctor? Common sense isn't helping me answer this question by myself. I'll definitely ask on my next appointment though, regardless.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 02:11:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trust me, if your toenails were ingrown, you'd fucking know it. It's some of the most excruciating pain I've ever had. So bad that I dug it out myself because I couldn't wait the 2 days to see my doc. And then within 24 hours it was back to normal.
dfgnsmnbdmnsv ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:25:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. I performed surgery on myself using a heated steak knife because that was less painful than continuing with the damned thing. (It got infected and the doc would only give me antibiotics, and they didn't work.)
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:31:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus. Antibiotics aren't going to make your toe nail retract itself from your flesh!
bisonburgers ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:10:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The antibiotics were probably for the infection, not the ingrown nail.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Zoethor2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most podiatrists I've seen won't do any removal procedures while there's an active infection, because the injections of the numbing agent can risk spreading the infection to the bone, which in turn carries the very real risk of amputation. So if you have an infection, you have to go on the antibiotics, wait till they work, then go back for the procedure.
Rjacobs914 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What kinda of shit pills are these then?
ubiquitoussquid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Toe knife!
Zoethor2 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:05:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, a severely ingrown toenail is some of the worst pain ever. It sort of has to be, because getting the numbing agent injected hurts pretty fucking terribly, too, so you really have to be at a point of desperation before that sounds worthwhile.
I've had 6 ingrown toenail removals, really hoping never to do it again.
thedarkone47 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:26:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stubbing an ingrown toe is easily worse then getting hit in the balls.
Karranor ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:15:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hm... ingrown toenail, heavily infected: 4/10
Numbing agent injected: 5/10
Numbing agent failing to numb, proceeding with removal anyway: 10/10
I was pretty used to pain (my old friend), but that's an experience I never want to repeat. At least I learned from that during my next visit that I'm resistant to those standard numbing agents/painkillers and I need an extra large dose for it to work. Tying it back to the thread, I pretty much was the idiot who needed to be told that no, experiencing significant pain even with local pain block is not normal.
hicow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:47:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could get the nailbeds killed. Doc mentioned it to me when I had an ingrown toenail cut out. I leave them long now and I haven't had one since, but you should probably either grow your nails out (and I mean like just shy of Howard Hughes long) or just get the beds killed so the nails don't come back.
Zoethor2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully, the third guy I saw, who did all four sides of my big toes (some for the second time), was considerably better/more aggressive. My toenails look a little funny now, because there's an odd gap between the nail and the side of my toe, but the ingrown toenails haven't come back for about a decade.
Most of my little toes are some degree of ingrown, those I let grow out really long, and occasionally perform some home surgery to yoink out pieces if it hurts.
yoiforgotmypassword1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
youre fine.
Djinjja-Ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever noticed how fingernail clippers are curved and toenail clippers are straight?
Youthro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's fingernail clippers and toenail clippers? God damn it. Why didn't anyone teach me this stuff?
DuplexFields ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 06:22:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad made sure to specifically tell me that when I was old enough to cut my own toenails.
Here's another one: water hot enough to hurt is giving you a burn. Is a minor one, but still causing tissue damage to the horny layer of skin that holds your skin together elastically. That's why your hands are cracking: you burn them every time you wash them. Use lukewarm water. That's why your bacne (back-acne) never clears up: you're micro-cracking the skin that should be protecting its underlying layers from bacteria. Bathe in water that isn't painful, and when it warms up later in the shower, adjust it a bit cooler.
officialkinzie ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 10:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You just changed my life while also taking away my love for extremely hot showers. Damn it all.
ZombieNinjaDezz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:16:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? I've had bacne (actually call it that too) for years and never would have attributed it to my shower being too hot. I mean.. I love a hot shower, but never hot enough to hurt.
DuplexFields ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:40:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hot enough to make you wince when you first get in? I had bacne for two freakin' decades until I found this tip elsewhere, cleared up within days like magic.
I've also stopped putting my hands in front of the car heater vents, Instead switching just to ski gloves while driving. My hands used to crack along the fingerprint: painful and difficult to heal.
ScrotumPower ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:29:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh heh heh
DuplexFields ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was a joke at first too, but Wikipedia says it's legit. It's a Latinate name for how it looks under a microscope.
BrushedYourTeethYet ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:28:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. I had three toe surgeries. THREE. Before I googled how to prevent them.
Also, for those who don't know: you can stick cotton wool under the edge of your toe nail (replace every day) to lift the toe nail and help it grow straight instead of into your skin. Saved myself from getting yet another ingrown toe with that info.
KaraWolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep trying to tell my husband this. He hasn't had a surgery yet, but keeps saying if he gets another he'll get a doctor to rip it off. DUDE. Just use cotton, I've even do it FOR you and quit mangling your nails. Though in his favor it's been a while since he's had a problem.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooo good one!! That sucks about them normally being painful though :(
TeniBear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:18:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, I'm going to try this one. My toenails aren't properly ingrown (except the fourth on both feet, but I was born with them like that and it's never bothered me) but they get a bit achy at times because they're curved.
BrushedYourTeethYet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Give it a week of doing the cotton ball thing and they will feel so much better.
lookitsnichole ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:51:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get pretty frequent ingrown toenails. I tried that advice and all I got was 4 really awfully infected ingrown nails. For years I've just been cutting the corners of the big toes really deep and if I ever feel any kind of pressure I cut the nail corner out before anything happens.
I know that cutting straight across is supposed to stop it from happening, but I've never had success when I tried it. It might really depend on the person.
Nackles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just straight across, it's also "don't cut too short." You get an ingrown toenail when the edge of the nail grows and pushes into the flesh next to it, so the real thing is to leave it long enough that when it does grow, it can't do that.
There are variations, I think it's mainly in how fleshy the part around the nail is.
Ivysub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has this problems and for a while I did too. He was told by a podiatrist to cut a triangle shaped notch in the middle of the nail, and it the nail would grow inwards enough to retract the sides a little.
I wasn't convinced but tried it because there was no harm in it. It seemed to work for me,. It needed to be done when I noticed it beginning, rather than when it had gotten to the point of being painful to the touch.
lookitsnichole ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:28:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I tried that, and it did seem to help. Not 100%, but it definitely took some of the pressure off the corners. The main problem was that it was sharp and I kept snagging my sheets and clothes. Lol
iris-and-fig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here.
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:44:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same, i thought i was the only one retarded enough to do that. I'm glad i found someone else
NEXT_VICTIM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only figured this out recently after fixing a large toenail that kept getting ingrown to the point of causing a half inch split of pure callous. It's cut properly now and the callous is healing.
Props for mentioning it!
FirstForFun44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha I had one in college and I was an athlete. The trainer asked me if I cut square corners instead of round and I was like, "wat?" She looked at me like I was a dope but it was a top ten public university. I really just hadn't been told and went 22 years without one.
Nackles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and it's SO SIMPLE. Hell, teach your kids when you're teaching them to cut their nails in the first place--it's a small thing but it would save lots of worthless pain.
jaredwebd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:20 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain this to my gf. She did not believe me at first but now she gets it.
Acerimmerr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that out through trial and error, for a year it was like having a period for my feet exacerbated by me cutting my toenails shorter and shorter every couple of weeks.
YayBudgets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my goodness.. My poor SO. I had no idea.
whopperofhotdogs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I was preventing ingrown toenails by doing this! Thank you!!
joyjose22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow TIL
synfidie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I also learned that they can do very minor surgery, covered by insurance, to remove the bad part of the nail and you'll never have the issue again.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can cut into the corners, you just need to be on that shit. I'm a compulsive clipper, and I haven't had an ingrown nail since I was a kid (back when I chewed them). Gotta check every other day or so.
OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It feels so good to cut it all the way down and pull off the side bits, but then it hurts so much when they grow back. ;-; I'm finally now in the habit of just cutting them straight across and not getting the side bits as well. The good feeling of pulling out the corners of the toenail isn't worth the weeks of pain when the nail grows back in.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to get one cut out when I was a kid. Shit was nasty. Since then, I leave the nails on my big toes long, because ingrown toenails suck ass.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:26:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SkyDestrier ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 01:04:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think about it, we're taught at a very young age by, maybe one or two people over a very brief period of time how to wipe ourselves after using the toilet. After that it's never talked about or revisited again. If a child is taught incorrectly, or worse, not taught at all and forced to figure it out themselves, it will often take an event like the above to find out they've been doing it wrong all along.
skullturf ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the reason for the whole "sitters vs standers" debate and the fact that neither side knows the other side exists.
You learn how to wipe yourself at one specific age when you're very young, and then you never revisit it again.
detourxp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, wasn't until my girlfriend (now wife) saw me wiping after taking a shit did I realize I was weird for sitting up from the toilet to wipe. I thought it was disgusting to learn people put their hands basically inside the bowl to wipe.
borygoya ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No front to back or viceversa. Side to side is the way to go.
qwints ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't feel brief.
DildoShwaagins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been wiping sideways my whole life. Are you seriously telling me there is a better way?
-powerfucker- ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:49:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wipe front to back because I don't want shit on my balls. Sure, people repeat what they're taught, but god damn, I don't think it's too much to ask for people to apply even the tiniest bit of thought to such a basic process.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:55:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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iznotiz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:52:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please for the sake of baby jesus wipe the dangly bits.
Palazard95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It clicks the first time you change a diaper.
Quasm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk. It didn't for me. :-/
isfturtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:39 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once came across something about the "most efficient way of wiping" or something like that, written by a man, that said it was better to start in the back and come forward. I was like, "this only works for half of the population; DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU HAVE A VAGINA."
Mazon_Del ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:52:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel honored. This is, I do believe, the first time in my history here on Reddit that something I have said has brought forth the coveted "No more internet for me today." response. I feel accomplished and humbled by this event.
There was a plan to then post some sort of link to something far more disturbing, but honestly at this point in the day my mind is a pretty decent blank.
trombonedarling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My vagina sympathy clenched as well...
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait! Come back!
lddake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I have 2 daughters and when the older was potty training I hear my wife telling her, "always front to back, otherwise you get owies." Never entered my head until that point, but damn right!
CursesandMutterings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents never talked to me about this either. I got my first lesson in wiping front-to-back with a crippling UTI when I was 20.
Surprised it didn't happen before then. And yes, my mom knew better.
Hobo-man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What monsters
MegaDarkwingDuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno I don't normally ask random women which way they wipe, but you're right. Tomorrow at the coffee shop, I'll ask everybody just to make sure they're doing it right.
klatnyelox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:04:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, back to front is just easier. Easier to reach, easier to see.
As a guy, I'll always do the maneuver where I pull my sack forward with one hand while wiping back to front with the other, keeping everything clean.
It's just easier.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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klatnyelox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then my ass gets wet.
UrethraX ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck your vagina, what about anyone that went down on her?!
potato_ships ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:56:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me more about this vagina clenching.
Engvar ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 01:33:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a male, this issue has NEVER crossed my mind before.
On the off chance I end up a single parent of a daughter, thank you.
(1st baby on the way, it's a boy. I worry about stuff like this now though.)
Mazon_Del ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:10:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congrats on the baby!
Glad to be of service!
Rando_gabby ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:00:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean...that's kinda common for people to not know that
AustinCynic ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:08:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it? I mean, my daughter is 4 and she's been taught to wipe front to back.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:54:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Spock_Rocket ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:14:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh, I don't either. I know the reasons why, it's just never been a problem for me. 30 year old, never had a yeast infection or UTI...
BTW, can we clarify that back to front is only vagina to urethra and not asshole to vagina to urethra? Because whenever someone brings up this topic I wonder if some people are seriously doing the latter...
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Spock_Rocket ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:35:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Considering the examples in this entire post, it's completely valid to ask if some people are actually wiping shit into their urethra. You can have your downvote back.
Furthermore, it's suggested in general that women wipe front to back to keep vaginal bacteria from causing a UTI (and to not push small amounts of urine back up the urethra). I've never heard the front to back conversation used to describe ass wiping. Ever.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:58:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Spock_Rocket ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first one you quoted says nearer to the rectum. As in maybe the paper is accidentally touching ass bacteria when wiping from vag to urethra. This is not talking about wiping your ass.
At this point, I'm getting the distinct impression no one is talking about the same thing on this topic, including doctors.
ziburinis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The direction being unimportant was for just urination wiping. The articles not behind a paywall in the lifehacker post both said wiping after urination.
captaincanada88 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:25:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't get a yeast infection from wiping back to front. Yeast lives in the vagina already.
ziburinis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:52:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking that she had a UTI, which are often from e.coli It definitely wouldn't have been a yeast infection or bacterial vaginosis. BV is from bacteria also already in the vagina.
Spock_Rocket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware there is already candida in the vagina, but I've never had a yeast infection, so I assumed it was not just from an overgrowth if yeast, but said bacteria getting into the semi sterile urethra and multiplying in that environment. I was incorrect on that account.
alexr09 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:25:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm... I'm pretty sure people know not to hit all of those stops in one wipe
Spock_Rocket ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patients in this thread apparently don't know you have to put a penis in a vagina to get a baby. I'm now just waiting for the reddit museum of filth story about the unlucky man who finds the woman who wipes waaaaay back to front.
Damn_Dog_Inappropes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:12:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You never go ass to mouth!
AustinCynic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL, I guess.
Rando_gabby ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:57:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... like if you're not taught then you don't know
I was well into my teens
And it's one of the first things the doctor asks when you go in for a uti
LifeOfTheUnparty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:10:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never knew until I took a routine urine test as a teenager and they used the test contents to surmise I was wiping the wrong way.
Only then was I informed there was a right way to do it.
Torolottie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was even of a tv show. Wipe clean to dirty. Front to back. Clean to dirty.
evlbuxmbetty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to screw up but a 30yo??!?!
telperiontree ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:58:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She should be very mad at her mother.
PseudoY ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:05:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is another of those male privileges, having the exits far enough apart that this isn't an issue.
On the other hand, fuck the prostate.
Georgie_Leech ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:24:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is one of the better things you can do with it, yes.
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's how you get gay dude to have orgasms.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:56:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
or your kinky ass boyfriend...
sunlightsneaking ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:17:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OhioMegi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been wiping that way for ever and never had a problem.
Mazon_Del ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A Urologist posted and said that there'd been no conclusive studies supporting this. So it could just be lies. Certainly sounds plausible when you think about it.
OhioMegi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been told not too. You'd have to be doing a poor job of wiping to have issues anyway I would think.
NemoSum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually am a doctor, and a Urologist specifically. There is actually no good evidence that the direction that one wipes makes a difference in the frequency of urinary tract infections.
Mazon_Del ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. This is of course far outside my field (robotics), I was just retelling the story. Certainly sounds plausible on the face of it.
stopdabbing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:44:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... isn't back to front the right way? (Seriously)
Readmyshitpussy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:11:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reach your arm behind you and reach up to the "front" and then wipe back. I had a friend walk in on me taking a shit and wiping and laughed at me because I didn't reach down to my crotch to wipe. I finished pooping, came out of the bathroom and upon further questioning found that he wipes his ass incorrectly
stopdabbing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh okay right, I read it wrong. I was seriously concerned. It's weird tho, that your friend notices how you wipe your ass lmao. Thanks for the clarification.
Readmyshitpussy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lmao I think the way I wipe my ass must have looked pretty foreign to him so that's probably why he noticed, that's all
DDRTxp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly the amount of grown ass women I have to teach to wipe front to back is astounding.
evlbuxmbetty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My Dad was around more when I was a little girl, Mom worked long hours. Thank God he's a doctor (even if it's in medical ethics and not actual medicine) because he was the one to tell me how to wipe (I was doing it wrong up until age 5 or so) and then showed me where to buy pads and tampons in the grocery store and pointed out the instructions and told me to read them word for word as a 13yo. I'd seriously be lost if he didn't have the guts to tell me that shit. I'm sure some Dad's would be too mortified.
Mazon_Del ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your Dad sounds like a great guy! :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, for crissakes.
Palazard95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably a single dad. My roommate is expecting and when I quizzed him, he said back to front. I made his fiancรฉ have a long talk with him about a lot of stuff about girls he never knew.
myBisL2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:58:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't recall ever specifically being taught this but it made sense to me. I can't remember why exactly but I was in the bathroom with my mom and out of the corner of my eye I saw her wipe back to front. I said something about it and she said that made no sense and it's just the way she does it. Well, alright...
dominosci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere that while many people believe this matters, no studies have ever actually confirmed it.
Mazon_Del ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A Urologist made a post in reply agreeing with that statement. Certainly seems plausible, though I'd have no idea of course.
VStarffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This also seems like the kind of thing that, if true, would have been weeded out by natural selection, since its such a direct cause and effect between a simple action and a possibly fatal consequence. You'd think if this was an actual problem that women would have an instinct to wipe front to back built up through evolution.
dominosci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think that natural section would have weeded out people with the inclination to stick things in their ears but Qtips are still a big industry.
VStarffin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For all we know it has, and we used to be a species that liked to stick things in our ears way more than we currently do.
Food for thought.
dominosci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My theories is that - millions of years ago - when humans were evolving on the veldt, we never encountered any shitty evolutionary psychology arguments. That is why we never evolved defenses against them.
mrshestia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um.... That's a thing? Like, fucking seriously? And I find out I need to do it differently from REDDIT? Wow. Wow...
Mazon_Del ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to our strange...so terribly strange world, where those supposed to teach you say nothing, and you learn life's most important lessons from people with names like WeasleDickFace.
GameMusic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL vaginas can clench on demand
TheTartanDervish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the other side, there was an Army OBGYN who was convinced you could get chlamydia when you hadn't been sexually active for years, or even at all. Soon as I found out he said that to a few of my friends, I nope'd out and got the other doctor at the base clinic who had a clue. And they wonder why military hospitals have a high incident of birth complications with these morons doing the deliveries...
VampireSurgeon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Up until maybe a year ago I wiped from the opening of the vagina up towards the clitoris because that's how I always saw my mom do it. It wasn't until I was commenting in a thread on Trollx that other women pointed out that might be an issue. It never even occured to me. I try to wipe differently now.
Mazon_Del ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noticed any difference? Or was it just a precautionary move?
VampireSurgeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was just precautionary. The only time I ever had a UTI was when I was a little girl.
tortusrex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:19:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I wondered why my gyn told me that when I had an infection one time. I was like, dude - no shit!! Of course I know that. Well, now I feel stupid that not everyone knows that.
Maplewhat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:50:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is both amazing and so incredibly sad. Like if either of her parents had just explained this a lifetime of suffering could have been avoided.
ErectCouch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just had to explain to my roommate why wiping was to front is not a good idea
Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a guy, and my undercarriage is still trying to retract in on itself right now.
Mazon_Del ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:10:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You MIGHT actually be a truck.
guacamoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm having a hard time finding sympathy for someone who thought smearing shit in your own vagina is common practice.
Hischoll ยท 276 points ยท Posted at 22:29:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor yet, but a friend told me once that pasta and tomatoes cause gastric cancer. Because she read it on a "healthy life-style" type magazine. She's 21.
lllola ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:12:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP Italy
mttdesignz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as an Italian, I can fully attest that were this true, our entire population would have been wiped out of existence a long time ago.
malonkey1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:20:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to be eating tomato & pasta dishes every time you see her. Carry a jar of spaghettios just in case you run into her unexpectedly.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So that's why Rome fell
DukeMaximum ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:02:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about pasta to dispute it.
RunningUpThtHill ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:33:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know exactly what the bullshit reasoning behind that one is. A bunch of those weird health fads include not eating anything from the night shade family like tomatoes. Paltrow is one.
OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well probably someone out there with gastric cancer ate pasta and tomatoes at some point, so that's all the facts I need.
gino188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:01 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you should tell her everybody in Italy secretly has gastric cancer because thats all they eat there.
DocGerbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think I found your problem there, buddy.
sbutac ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 01:18:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was consulted on a patient in the ER who had eye pain (I am an ophthalmologist, different than an optometrist). It ends up that he had worn a contact in his eye for 8 months without removing it. As if that wasn't bad enough, he had found this contact on the bathroom floor of a club...popped it in and it helped him see better. I didn't ask a lot more questions about the specifics. He had a rip roaring corneal ulcer. I gave him some antibiotic drops and set up a follow up. Didn't see him again until about 7 months later, when he showed up in the ER again after wearing a new set of contacts for 6 months. These ones he had found in a dumpster behind a drugstore, albeit they were unopened this time... We had another conversation about sleeping in contacts indefinitely.
adalida ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand how people even do this. Mine start to actively hurt after about 12 hours of wear.
ShamelessFox ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:29:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Optician here.
I honestly think idiots like this deserve to lose their vision. There's only do many times you can explain this shit. Do you wear your underwear for 8 months? No? Same concept.
sexheadisalreadytook ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was much younger (in college) and only slightly stupider than I am now, I pulled the "wearing contacts indefinitely" thing. It wasn't for lack of education regarding proper care, as much as laziness.
I got myself a lovely infection that felt like I had a shard of glass in my eye. I went to the ophthalmologist as soon as it started hurting, so it was caught relatively quickly, and combined with I'm sure a lot of luck, there were no lasting effects.
Never again. I make sure I never sleep with them, and if I'm in doubt, I toss them out. I always have my glasses as back up in case I have to do this while out and about. It was one of the most excruciating pains I've ever experienced. I like to think I learned a lesson that day.
incipit-satan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gross.
Giraffee22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had to see one of you before. For the same reason. Left my contacts in, went swimming in a polluted lake (didn't know that), and ended up getting an ulcer. Worse thing ever.
---annon--- ยท 16622 points ยท Posted at 20:25:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had severe asthma as a kid. I was intubated for a sever attack a few times. My parents were instructed to take better precautions in our home and went through instructions, more dusting, washing bedsheets etc.. and the big one NO SMOKING inside the house. So my parents agree to all of this.
Few weeks later I'm back in the hospital. A doctor recognized me and came over to talk. Then he bent over and smelled my head (I'll never forget that. I thought it was so weird). He told a nurse to sit there and not let me leave with my parents. When my parents showed up he asked point blank:
"Did you not understand what I told you last time? Do you understand these attacks could be fatal?"
"But we open windows and have stopped smoking in her room when we put her to bed" :/
[deleted] ยท 1591 points ยท Posted at 20:52:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/raisedbyassholes
[deleted] ยท 356 points ยท Posted at 21:24:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, I'm sad this sub is private.
Cessnaporsche01 ยท 535 points ยท Posted at 21:31:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/raisedbynarcissists
[deleted] ยท 331 points ยท Posted at 21:35:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol yeah, I know about that one, but not all assholes are narcissists. It's just a high probability.
Joliet_Jake_Blues ยท 831 points ยท Posted at 22:53:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that that sub is reddit's go to for bad parenting.
I commented once about how when I managed restaurants I had a regular customer that would fill her toddlers sippy cup with Coke or orange soda. People responded by linking that sub.
She wasn't a narcissist, she was fucking stupid.
Snatch_Pastry ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 23:57:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend's brother ended up with a girl who had a kid (may or may not be his), and we're pretty sure the kid has fetal alcohol syndrome. At four years old, his teeth were rotted out from getting soda instead of milk, and he had massive behavior and developmental issues.
And the mom was actually a nice person, and loved her kid. It's just that she was a fundamentally very stupid and very ignorant person.
Sylfaein ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time we visit my husband's mother's side of the family, I have to watch VERY small toddlers--and last time, even an infant--drinking soda. This damn fool cousin of his had Big Red in a bottle for a baby. I wanted to scream.
Couple of his aunts tried to convince me to let our daughter have some, when she was about 18 months. Same day, one of them commented on said daughter having more teeth than she did...gee, I wonder why...
helm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, kids are supposed to get 20 teeth, goddammit.
johnthewolf ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i remember being 8 visiting my ghetto Buena Park cousins and see my little <2 year old cousin in a high chair eating fruit loops with pepsi...he lives in Ohio now.
jeggo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a second. Like fruit loops and pepsi in a cup.... Or was the... Pepsi replacing.... the milk?
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/michael-scott-gross.gif
johnthewolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
replaced the milk and a cup of it... that kid's mother, last i saw a year ago, claimed she was on a diet and can have only one pepsi per day
jeggo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I saw any of my cousins doing that they'd get a swift foot in the ass. Reminds me of a guest dentist speaker back in high school health telling us about "Mountain Dew Mouth" and how he'd see toddlers with Mountain Dew in sippy cups... Some people....
I mean growing up (like toddler + and out of diapers and walking and what not) rarely as a treat I'd get like... Sprite. Then again I also do recall going to a BBQ when I was like 5 and I had like 4 cans of Surge XD
johnthewolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair, slamming a sixer at a bbq is nothing, if not a tradition
lurgi ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:14:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/raisedbyfuckingstupid
grizzfan ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was fucking stupid like?
colonelcrash ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:02:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was one of the hardest things to do as a server, putting soda (in my case Mountain Dew) into a toddlers sippy cup. Like, he isn't old enough for a straw but he is old enough for that sugar caffeine high? I don't understand why anyone would EVER intentionally do that. It sounds horrible for the parents as well, why amp him up??
ONLYPOSTSWHILESTONED ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "sugar high" is a myth. Consuming huge amounts of sugar being bad for you is emphatically not, but it's not because it gets you high, it's because our evolution didn't prepare us for such a diet.
edit: I notice you also mentioned caffeine and may have even been mostly condemning feeding that to a child, but I really want to *quash that sugar myth.
hilarymeggin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:20:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*quash
ONLYPOSTSWHILESTONED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I meant "squash", I just meant it metaphorically.
helm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For infants, "sugar high" is appropriate. It's a pain killer for them.
Squigglystuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You come and give my 3 yr old a cup of soda or bag of candy/lollies/sweets, and then he can squash your no sugar high myth! Sugar seriously messes with my son, never has with my daughters, but it sends my son loopy.
Lovlace_Valentino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure "sugar high" is more a figure of speech than an actual attempt at a diagnosis, not sure what myth you're debunking here.
ONLYPOSTSWHILESTONED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you overestimate people.
shinypurplerocks ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:31:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sugar actually is a depressant
Not that it makes it right but ๐
obsolete_filmmaker ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 00:55:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was once on a flight and watched a sky waitress give the kid next to me 4 cans of soda over a couple of hours.
A little while later, I'm in line for the bathroom, and there is the sky waitress with the kid, who is jumping up and down, and she asks me to let the kid into the bathroom ahead because it was an emergency. I told the sky waitress that maybe if she hadn't given the kid 4 cans of soda......
The sky waitress responded with "well she kept asking for them!"
geez......
edit: It's not the sky waitresses job to give the kid soda, she should only serve the mom. The mom really needed to be responsible for her child.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:06:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck do you want her to do? It's her goddamn job to give sodas to people who ask for them.
obsolete_filmmaker ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:29:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To the parents, no the children themselves. The parents should be the only ones ordering or delivering drinks to their children.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:31:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's probably not how the airline's rules work.
LeJoker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even if it was: it is not the general population's job to parent all nearby children.
It's shitty that the kid is going to grow up fat and unhealthy because the parents don't understand how basic nutrition works, but it isn't the flight attendant's (to show some goddamned respect to a service profession by using its name, for Pete's sake.) job or anyone elses to stop that parent from being a shitty parent.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not the one saying it is. The guy I'm talking to seems to think it's the flight attendant's fault that the kid had four cokes. I don't.
LeJoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, sorry. I'm aware it wasn't you. Just adding onto what you're saying :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I misunderstood. Sorry if my reply was a bit testy.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:32:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my cousins (by marriage, thankfully) fed her baby jalapenos and serrano peppers because the dad is Mexican-American. She seemed to think that the kid was born tolerant of spicy food because of her heritage. That was one of the first times CPS was involved.
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:30 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time my wife gave her youngest some jalapeno slices, he shuddered and shook, so they ran him to the bathroom thinking he was going to vomit. He squealed with happiness and said, "MORE!" I think he was 18 months old at the time.
Now he eats them like pickles.
AmandatheMagnificent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:55 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was an itty bitty. I want to say 6 months or so.
TheAngryBlueberry ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:32:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that sub is sort of a place where we all share our abusive parents, N or not
Boden ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:02:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it just me or do they define "narcissist" as "all shitty parenting things ever"?
Smarag ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:29:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be surprised how connected these two things are.
Also you people never read the sidebar, we use "narcissist" as a catch all term:
[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 00:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But why use it as a catch all term? I get that narcissism does not necessarily equate to full-blown NPD, but it's still a very specific type of assholery. Wouldn't something like r/emotionalabuse make a lot more sense for some of these cases?
Smarag ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
why is trees a weed subreddit? because its catchy and easy to remember.. Really nothing more to it. The important thing is the support and the people. Would I like a more accurate name? sure why not. but do I really care how I call the assholes we hate? Naaah there are way more important things to think about.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:28:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would agree that it's catchy, and it's great that people are finding support in that sub. But unlike r/trees, they're misusing a clinical term, which seems potentially harmful.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/marijuanaenthusiasts may like to have a word with you.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is awesome. On a side note, as an ecologist I have a hunch that there is a huge overlap between the subscribers of that sub and r/trees.
Azurenightsky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:51:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/marijuanaenthusiasts for all your Tree related needs. Never gets old watching that joke pop up every few months.
spacedonutnfo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:59:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also "trees" is used as a euphemism for marijuana in pop culture in the U.S. at least.
RoastedMocha ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 00:24:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why its bad.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:59:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just used loosely. Any accuracy in the use is coincidental at best.
LordHussyPants ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:20:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which is really stupid because the sidebar also has a list of narcissistic traits, as well as a "Please assume a context of abuse" rule which is absolutely wrong when people go and post in there "My Mum made me eat my broccoli before my cheesecake and god it ruined me!"
iznotiz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do not EVER suggest that a JNM poster is causing their own drama/problems. No matter how nicely you word it, you WILL be banned. :)
LordHussyPants ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, I know. I had a comment deleted because I pointed out that a 90 year old man in a retirement home telling his daughter he didn't like the food there and asking her to bring a sandwich was less narcissistic than he was maybe hoping for a daughter who gave a fuck about him in his old age.
iznotiz ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta earn those fucks.
mykidisonhere ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They also throw out /r/justnomil like it's nothing. No, your Mother-in-law doesn't deserve to be excommunicated because she didn't read your mind and buy you the right style of ugg, jackass.
Rockonfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance
hidonttalktome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:53:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/theymeantwell, for the shitty parents who did their best!
Teglement ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, I don't think Reddit knows what 'narcissist' means
98785258 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol right? That sub is so quick to diagnose narcissism. Like oh you're 28 and live at home and your parents have the nerve to charge you rent? They're narcissists, you should cut all ties and forget they exist. This is the crux of "support" subs. They all eventually turn into a circlejerky echo chamber where you only hear 1 side of an obviously embellished story where people are looking for others to confirm their beliefs. Spend 10 minutes on r/childfree and you'll see what I mean.
SadGhoster87 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well it's more that it started as narcissism and now covers much more.
98785258 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My main issue with it is that people post there with the sole intention of confirming their beliefs. You only ever get to hear one side of the story. And although there are some horrible parents out there, I'd say a majority of the stories there are exaggerated for the purpose of reinforcing their sense of victimhood.
Carvemynameinstone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the concept of echo chambers.
modestacid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:34:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh I hate that. People have tried to give my kids soda and it makes me livid. My 5 year old and younger doesn't need that crap!
hrehbfthbrweer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No one needs that crap.
Flamburghur ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Livid sounds extreme.
bothering ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/MyGoddamnParents
Zidlijan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:51:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think at this point the sub should be RaisedByAbusers in general
WarlordTim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's worth pointing out that the sub uses the "narcissist" term as a catch all to describe all kinds of things. They note it in the sidebar.
Zidlijan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:37:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah i know, but people with BPD, NPD, ASPD and DPD have gotten real life consequences thanks to these subs, and by that i mean huge generalizations, having their illness equated to automatically being abusive and even being abused further by the people they post about in those subs.
IAmA_Evil_Dragon_AMA ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:49:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/raisedbymeanpeople
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:11:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can we make this a thing?
emmanuelsayshai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Done.
Evan_dood ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:46:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/raisedbynonnarcissisticassholes
WarlordTim ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:27:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's worth pointing out that the sub uses the "narcissist" term as a catch all to describe all kinds of things. They note it in the sidebar.
Flamingo_of_lies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:58:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't seem like narcissists just stupid and possibly assholes
Wacov ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
but I wasn't angry today :(
WarlordTim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There it is.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:31:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/raisedbynarcissists is 50% people with simply terrible parents, and 50% people who inherited their parents neurotic and abrasive personalities and are trying to blame themselves becoming assholes on their parents.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:34:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's also the people who are narcissists and are trying to pin their own bad behavior on their normal parents
rubeninterrupted ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:08:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, is Barron a mod?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww man. Someone must have just created it. It wasn't a thing when I posted that.
rbwildcard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've been hurt too many times.
Lying_idiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sendt them a Message! fingers crossed!
IRKittyz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sad that's not a thing.
Dzjill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:57:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/r/raisedbynarcissists
Brendalwulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this sub active? I tried to join a similar sub but never got a response back.
sixfingerdiscount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please invite me to your elite subreddit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sent in my join request. I was raised by several different assholes.
Buschlightbitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Newish to Reddit. How do you join private groups? Or is this even an option?
TheOvenDoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really surprised this isn't already a subreddit.
Springwood_Slasher ยท 5706 points ยท Posted at 20:34:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's when they called child protective services?
---annon--- ยท 4863 points ยท Posted at 21:29:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. If they did nothing was done about it. This ranks surprisingly low in terms of bad parenting decisions on their part
Codythehaloguy ยท 1540 points ยท Posted at 22:30:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much, they could've been like my mom and smoked with me, at 2 months old with severe asthma, in the same room with nothing open. And to add insult to injury, spent the money she got from the government and the child support from my dad she was getting to buy all kinds of useless for herself like a large screen tv, (it was only a 40" but in 1994 that wasn't cheap) super expensive clothes and other stuff for herself. Meanwhile, the air conditioner for the house was broken and it was mid summer in Oklahoma.
namesrue ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 23:16:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people talk about taking away certain kinds of government benefits because of cases of fraud, I think they forget that those people have children. I know drug addicts whose children only ate because of those programs.
elbenji ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people who are most on welfare are children
gsfgf ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 00:30:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yea other than SNAP and ACA Medicaid that may not exist in a year, pretty much all "welfare" dollars only go to families with children. (And SNAP is still heavily weighted toward families) Even if the parents are fuckups, the kids still need to eat. That's the whole point.
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:01:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, it IS heavily weighted towards families, so if you're smart enough to not breed, and lose your job, you have to be REALLY FUCKED before the system that you'd paid into for years gives a fuck. But if you spread your legs and keep having babies? At least in my county? Government makes it rain. And the kids are still, often, underfed and not well cared for.
It's lovely.
tallquasi ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 02:20:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna assume you don't know any of those families for whom the "Government makes it rain."
Copied/pasted from something I posted elsewhere, earlier
"In most parts of the US, you don't get a stipend for housing; if anything you'll get section 8 digs in the projects. Food stamps are insufficient to live on, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) has a six month maximum, and is basically a loan against future child support payments.
Unemployment/disability notwithstanding, nobody gets free cash from the government, and even those are supposed to come from payroll taxes and the like.
Medicaid is the main expense in most states and is for newborns and new mothers, the disabled and a few other categories. Any reasonable level of income will disqualify a person from medicaid, food stamps and TANF or their state-named equivalents.
The real kicker is when a person who is receiving assistance gets a raise, a job or a better job, and loses benefits and wind up getting less per month because they made what would be good life decisions in any other situation. But sure. $8000 tax refunds for welfare queens. Whatever helps grandma sleep at night."
ToddToilet ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:25:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember my mom not having a job when I was younger because we would have ended up with less money coming in than we already had. It makes it hard to make your life better when it feels like you're getting punished for it.
blacklite911 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:34:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is when you need to raise wages.
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've known several, and worked with many more. Section 8 here can, and often is, accepted by any landlords if they adhere to some basic criteria, and a lot of them go for it because it's almost guaranteed to always have a tennant. Three have moved in in the last year where we live now, and they've turned the neighborhood to shit. I mostly feel sorry for all the retirees who live here dealing with their shit. Section 8 people are why gentrification happens. We don't hate you because you're poor, we hate you because you act like trash and cry victim when people call you on it.
DiceDemi ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 03:11:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TANF lasts forever if you can prove 'hardship'. Or just keep having kids. That six month limit is the biggest joke to ever exist in bureaucratic government.
gehnrahl ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 00:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh you are forgetting what I feel is abuse of the SSI program. I used to work a credit union in a low income area and those people abused the fuck out of the SSI program.
jyetie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever tried to get on SSI?
It's hard. It can take a year. Just because someone doesn't look disabled doesn't mean they aren't.
teefour ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:17:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wut? Are you referring to the proposed budget from March that would decrease snap funding by 20% over 10 years? Because that's 20% over ten years. Not 100% over one year.
Shit, clone hybrids of Scrooge McDuck and Ayn Rand could be elected to every single seat in congress and that still couldn't get done in a year.
gsfgf ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:58:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking about ACA Medicaid for adults
teefour ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So then why mention snap?
And furthermore, it's looking more and more like the republicans don't have the political capital to outright repeal the ACA. Which they never really had anyway, it's just been a talking point to rile up their base. If it's as unsustainable as they argue (which rising premiums are pointing to yes, it likely is due to poor design not actually forcing competition into insurance markets), then it will die on its own either way, and both sides will be forced to come up with an alternative.
Dunder_Chingis ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 06:51:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh, this is why we should have public schools act as boarding schools run as a combination standard school and military school. Take those kids away from the fuck-ups who will only endanger their children through neglect or malice, teach them bad life lessons that will ensure they grow up to become just another fuck up as well, and give them a safe, structured environment that teaches discipline, self-reliance, academic excellence and teamwork.
Everyone gets a level playing field, and everyone has no excuse for becoming a fuck up.
vizard0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And while we're at it, we'll teach those savages to be good white people! (Read the wiki article, and then if you can stand it, read some testimonies of kids who were forced into those schools. These were started by people with the best of intentions to "civilize" (or "civilise") these poor children from their savage parents. They destroyed families, culture, languages, etc., not to mention all the documented cases of abuse and assault.)
DontFuckWithMyMoney ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 23:26:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those damn kids need to get jobs! -Betsey DeVos
hydrospanner ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:27:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's got Betsy Devos eyes.
frozenwalkway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:40:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But actually. http://time.com/4322522/bolivia-child-labor-law-la-paz-unatsbo/
graygrif ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:43:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I know when Florida decided to drug test everyone on welfare (it didn't last long), if a parent/guardian failed the test twice (one test every 3 to 6 months) they had to nominate someone to receive their welfare benefits for them (just in case they had any children). Of course, the nominated person would also have to be drug tested.
the_falconator ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:57:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep, I actually really like Florida's law. It doesn't save any money but it makes sure that the children are provided for. Unfortunately many use Florida as an example to say we shouldn't drug test, saying that it costs more than it saves, when it isn't meant to save money.
graygrif ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:06:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was framed in saving the state money. Governor Rick Scott (and others high ranking Republicans) believed that there was a large number of welfare recipients that were on drugs. By revoking their welfare, the state would save money because the state wouldn't have to pay out welfare benefits to drug addicts, even with factoring the multiple drug tests each adult would have to take.
The problem with Florida's program is that the clinic that got the contract for most of the drug tests was owned primarily by Governor Rick Scott. Also the program didn't really catch that many drug users. Of the 4046 individuals tested, only 108 failed the test (about 2.6%). This is much lower than the estimated number of Americans with substance abuse problems (around 9%). Florida's results closely match other states who have mandated drug tests for welfare recipients.
The funny thing (to me) is that all these politicians believe that those who "live on the government's dime should have to submit to a drug test, but these same politicians (who again live on the government's dime) refuse to take drug tests when asked.
himit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, I think it's a good idea if for nothing but drug addicts tend to make shit parenting choices. Putting the welfare of the child in someone else's hands - even to a very minimal extent - is helping. And I say this as a child of 'successful' pot heads... It would have been nice just to have someone who cared what school year I was in.
mildlyEducational ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 00:15:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That law was not created to help kids. That's a good provision, but the law was just another bashing of the welfare queen stereotype for votes.
gsfgf ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 00:34:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. It's meant to score political points for Republicans by demeaning the poor by subjecting them to a warrantless search in order to claim benefits they already have a property interest in. Also to benefit Rick Scott's company that does drug testing.
RockFan2012 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In most states with that law (all but one), literally 99% of welfare recipients pass those tests. Forget about saving money, how is that worth the time and effort of everyone involved in facilitating those tests???
Either literally 1% or less of welfare recipients use drugs, or they have the same drug use as the rest of the population (less than ten percent) and just manage to not get caught. Either way, totally not worth it in my book, especially when you factor in how it justifies so many people's belief that poor people are way more likely to be druggies.
hankhillforprez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:51:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the exact point I make when I hear people argue that welfare only encourages laziness and should therefore be reduced. Even assuming this is true, a lot of the people receiving assistance have dependent children. Do we really want to punish those children, who have done nothing wrong, and take the risk that their welfare receiving parents might cut back on food or care for their children if we reduce assistance?
Dontreadmudamuser ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know drug addicts whose children only exist for those programs
namesrue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok.
iznotiz ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:23:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you don't.
coleosis1414 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:31:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my conversation with my father every time welfare comes up:
"Goddammit, I'm tired of spending my hard-earned tax dollars on some fuckin' knucklehead who uses his food stamps on Oreos and his welfare benefits on fuckin' drugs.. I bet if you took those benefits away they'd get themselves a job! How about we drug test these people? Why would that be so hard? If you use drugs why should you get benefits?
"Yeah, Dad, it's frustrating, but most of these people have kids who would go without otherwise."
"PSH. Well they should STOP having kids."
".... Okay, well, they had kids so..."
"Or take the kids away from 'em! Put them in a better home!"
"That sounds great, Dad, but do you know how expensive that is? That would be WAY more tax dollars out of your pocket. I agree we need more robust child protective services, but the reality is it's expensive and voters will never approve of the tax hikes."
"... I just think stupid people shouldn't be allowed to breed."
"Okay, Dad."
That's how his brain works on the subject. Rant and rave about it, talk himself into a corner, realize he can't think of a better alternative, and then resort to grumbling under his breath.
namesrue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had this exact conversation before, I think. It is irritating to me because some of the subsidies and tax breaks corporation as get are absolutely ridiculous, and adds almost no one would support them on paper, but it's the "welfare queens" that are sold to us as the real parasites on our tax money.
coleosis1414 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:43:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's so evil and conniving on a grand scale, that it's almost impressive.
Ronald Reagan and his Christian Coalition pulled the greatest bait-and-switch on the American people that this country has ever seen. They made a conscious decision to bleed the middle class in order to make nice with rich corporate donors. So to sell the whole idea to the middle class, they built this character. The welfare queen. The worthless, fat, good-for-nothing mom with five kids and a drug problem, leaching off the system with her feet up. And the idea of that enraged voters. "Yes please. Cut taxes for the corporations. Make America business friendly, take the teet of the government out of the mouths of the useless, and restore PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY!"
The end result? An evaporating middle class and a system where corporations quite literally own our politicians.
Incredibly, the conservatives managed to not only screw the middle class, but make them bend over, spread their cheeks, and say "please" before they did so.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:27:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, they probably don't. It's just that often the children serve primarily as a source of income.
mjrohs ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:26:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, but why punish the kid for that?
rg90184 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's where it gets tricky. You dont want to punish the kids, but at the same time, "rewarding" the parents shitty behavior with more support that they will spend on themselves also isn't the ideal solution.
This is a problem without an easy answer.
mjrohs ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 00:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would rather err on rewarding an asshole over punishing an innocent.
GarryOwen ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:43:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a good number of times the parents have drug problems and don't use the extra benefits for the children. It is surprisingly easy and common to sell food stamps for cash.
RockFan2012 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:36:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The last time an investigation was done, such incidents were found to be only 1% of all food stamp dollars. What do you define as "common"?
Like, sure, a lot of people on food stamps would sell their stamps for cash if they could, the idea has seemed tempting to me when I get hit by an unexpected bill, but how many people are willing to buy food stamp dollars instead of just buying the food themself???
R3D1AL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're supposed to sell them at a discount to incentivize the buyer. Like $50 cash for $100 food stamps.
GarryOwen ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, from my informal survey of people in North Vegas, I would say about 10-20%. And a lot of people will buy food stamps, the going rate around here is about 50% ($100 of EBT for $50 cash/drugs). Also, most of the people who do it, don't do it every time.
RockFan2012 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:21:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so you realize your informal survey is utterly meaningless compared to a full investigation from the USDA right?
GarryOwen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:35:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how well their survey was conducted. It could be that both are meaningless.
rg90184 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then there is nothing stopping them from popping out another kid every few years to keep the benefits coming.
Anecdote time: In my hometown there was a family that had 14 kids (and another on the way at the time) Neither of the parents worked, they just subsided off of state assistance and opening credit cards using their kid's SSNs. I know because I was friends with two of the kids in school. They knew full well they were nothing but a paycheck to their parents. It was depressing to say the least.
mjrohs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:59:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not disputing that there are people out there who do that. But there are more people who do use their benefits on their children. Isn't it better to eat the cost of the people gaming the system rather than punish everyone, including people who have done nothing wrong?
rg90184 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:14:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Again, this is why it is not an easy answer. What about those 14 kids? Don't they deserve better? Shouldn't something be done to change their situation for the better so that their parents aren't having children and likening them to livestock?
It is a very common occurrence, despite being the minority of welfare cases.
I'm not saying we should abolish welfare all together. Merely that it shouldn't be so easy for shitheads to game the system while using their own children as livestock.
Some people actually do need the help and shitheels like the Rollins' are taking advantage of what should be helping those that actually need it.
Something needs to be done.
ifyouhaveany ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:27:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of money we spend on those people is like, so shockingly small compared to what we spend on corporate subsidies and the military. I don't understand why people even worry about it when there are bigger fish to fry. The only reason you should look into your neighbors bowl is to see if they have enough to eat, or whatever. We've all been trained so well to fight over the crumb we forgot who took the cookie.
rg90184 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm looking at my neighbors bowl because they have 14 kids they don't love just to get money and not have to work. I care because they destroy their kid's credit by opening credit lines in their names before the kid has any means of defying. I care because these people ruin the perception of a program that should help people who actually need it.
Deflecting to "oh but the military" does fucking nothing and is irrelevant to the conversation. Do I think the military is overspending? Of fucking course I do. But it has nothing to do with how broken, easily exploitable, and shitty the current welfare system is in this country.
I care about those 14 fucking kids because 2 of them are friends of mine. I care about what is in front of me and the people in my life. Go ahead and call me short sighted for not railing against the military spending trillions on bullshit, but the system that allowed my friends to be born only as livestock to their shitheel parents needs to be reformed. And anytime somebody brings it up it's met with either deflection or accusations of hating the poor.
Go fuck yourself.
Majik_Sheff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I admire your conviction and passion. The people who blather on about "bigger problems" never seem to have solutions. They just throw up their hands and say it's too much. They're so busy looking at the forest they forget about the trees.
Keep that passion but don't let frustration turn it into anger. Use that energy to make a difference for the people around you.
ifyouhaveany ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:26:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay then, you're short sighted.
whatismedicine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never understood how you can open a credit card in a child's name.. :(
rg90184 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its easy to lie on a credit card application. And they had no qualms about destroying their children's credit so long as the parents could buy new electronics and other bullshit (meanwhile they wouldn't pay their gas bills in the middle of winter.)
whatismedicine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:34 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's beyond disgusting. I wish there was something to prevent this :(
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like there should be a cutoff at some point. Like, we'll help you with two, or if you don't claim any benefits under any of your children until they're at least 3 (so, okay, legit hard times like dad got cancer or mom lost her job, etc), and you can't claim ANY benefits - WIC, food stamps, section 8, medicaid, etc - for more than 3 years without a disability.
But when you suggest limits people call you bad names.
rg90184 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a real shame too. Welfare is not supposed to be a permanent lifestyle. It's supposed to be a helping hand up when life kicks you down until you can stand on your own.
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right?! And I have NO PROBLEM with it for that purpose. But unless you have a bazillion and a half kids, when life kicks you down you're screwed. Better hope there's family or private charity for you!
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Punishing isn't the same as letting the consequences happen? And when we continue to reward shitty people milking the system and using their kids as income from the government, the cycle continues, and then you have a 31 year old woman bringing her 15 year old 6 month pregnant daughter to the hospital talking about all hte extra benefits they were gonna get now, and how she hoped the baby's dad didn't want his name on the birth certificate.
At some point the cycle has to end, so the PITA question is, how do you do that? Because the answer, clearly, is not always giving more and more and more.
RockFan2012 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're talking about innocent kids who are going to suffer the most, yeah, thats punishing them. Their actions are not the thing causing this to happen, these aren't THEIR consequences to deal with. You are absolutely just punishing children for their already shitty lot in life.
The only possible solution seems to be to resource social services so they can actually take kids away from parents who use them for money, as those parents are most assuredly neglecting them to the point they'd be far better off somewhere else. Or at least that WOULD be the answer if so many foster parents didn't also literally just do it for the cash.
But just btw, SNAP benefits have a 1% fraud rate. Do you have any idea how GOOD that is?????
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you don't understand the basic concept of punishment, then. Or that the government isn't their mother.
SNAP benefits probably have a 1% fraud rate because they don't ever take whores who breed like rabbits and don't work off of them. Zero respect for anyone who's on SNAP for years without a disability.
We could, also, you know, stop rewarding people for YEARS for having multiple children with no spouse or career to care for them. Also an option.
RockFan2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah you don't understand the basic concept of empathy then. Piece of shit
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:47:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, feelings don't create long term cross generational solutions or end the cycle of poverty.
You can call me a piece of shit all you want, but you're the one who's giving out other people's fish and refusing to teach anyone else to fish for themselves because it might be hard. You're allowing people who treat their kids like shit to continue to do so, and advertising it as an option to those who don't yet, like said children you claim to be for. Your "compassion"? It's crippling. But hey, you get that virtue signaling in and get to tell yourself you're a better person, so, I'm sure it doesn't bother you.
Do you seriously lack the part of your brain that lets you look past the intimidate "Sad" to a long term solution and what's better for everyone and society in a decade ? In three?
RockFan2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a better person not just because I give a shit but because i havent been brainwashed into thinking hat there are actually enough "whores using children as paychecks" to warrant fucking everyone else over. Youre not just a piece of shit youre a fucking stupid piece of shit. What part of 1% fraud is crippling???? Do you have the same feelings about our military budget, which could feed the country ten times over, and destroy the world five times over? Do you have the same feelings about the millions of dollars in subsidies and tax breaks and loopholes we give to corporations who don't need it?
Fuck right off with your crippling bullshit. You just hate poor people because you're a worthless shitbag for brains
BitchesLoveCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't just think it I've experienced it.
But hey, you seem to have all the grace of Ana Kasparian, so there's no reasoning with you.
Also, arguing that welfare spending is okay because military and corporate tax breaks exist is known as "not an argument".
And yes, I do resent some poor, because (and this is something progressives will never admit) - they often make their own problems, then act like a victim at the expenses of others. Life happens. I resent no one being poor for that reason. But you having a baby at 15? That's not "life happening" that you being stupid and making poor choices. Not having a good work ethic, good soft skills, not starting working while you're in HS, not presenting yourself in a respectable manner and having respect for those around you? That's not being poor, that's making poor choices. Poor choices that often hold you back in a career. It's pretty simple - Don't have a kid before you're 20, don't have a kid outside of marriage, finish high school, start working when you finish high school, even if you go to college. These aren't difficult things, and the overwhelming majority of the time they'll keep someone out of a cycle of poverty. But we can't even expect that level of personal responsibility out of people.
otterpapa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:55:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what's worse is some barely eat in spite of these programs.
KnoeYours3lpH ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:59:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This kind of thing make me so mad. It's just so unbelievably selfish. I used to work as an A/V Tech mostly doing tv installs in people's homes. We had one client that paid us to come in and mount tvs (plural) and install speakers. >$800 worth of work. There were literally cigarette butts on the carpet upstairs. I wore a respirator the whole time I was in there. She had two kids growing up in that house. It absolutely disgusted me. Bitched out my boss for taking the job and refused to contribute to such despicable decisions. No one should be wasting money on such stupid shit while the whole family and house crumple around them. I'm sorry you had to grow up that way.
Gryff99 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:47:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not to one up you, but I found out recently that my mom smoked when she was pregnant with me.
And she acted all baffled when she found out I had asthma.
himit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom said she smoked one a day while pregnant and felt terribly guilty the whole time. I have ADHD, but that's likely genetic and, in the scheme of things, she was young and dumb and could have done much worse.
Squirt1013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does smoking while pregnant cause asthma? Or is it just the smoking around you after you were born that caused it?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:28:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 1994 a 40" TV would have cost a fuck ton of money. IIRC I bought a 32" in about 2000 and it cost me over ยฃ1000, which was probably about $1500 at that time.
Mr_Times ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:11:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh Oklahoma, what a marvelous place I will never forget.
knitasheep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally read that post and went, "Huh. I completely forgot Oklahoma is a state." I'm not even sure the last time it was referenced to me, minus the musical.
Mr_Times ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could forget Oklahoma, but when you live here it's a little harder
Yavin7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ita not so bad, especially if you like farm fresh meat 0roduce. We raise cattle and pigs and they are so tasty
Boden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/hug
CeeDiddy82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's Oklahoma for ya.
Source: lived in Oklahoma for my whole 34 years on this dust ball.
Deucer22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit a 40" TV in 1994.
underwriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit in '94 a 40" tv was like $2500
not-yawning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry that happened to you.
arlenroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only kid who had shit parents and wasn't cursed with a multitude of respiratory problems? I remember being about 6-7 in the mid 1980s going to my first pro BMX race, both parents smoking out in a 1976 Trans Am, I placed second huffing non-filter Camels, surely I'm not the only kid?
BananaJammies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother: "Nobody's going to tell me that I can't smoke in my own house!" and simultaneously, "Why do you three kids keep getting these ear infections!?".
QuantumGoldfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You smoked at 2 months old?
aneguet12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you're not offended but I want to go back in time and hit your mother over the head with a stick. My family was solidly middle class and yet my mom felt guilty buying anything for herself until I was 25.
Codythehaloguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, I was taken away from her. Sadly it wasn't until she gave another son of hers 3rd degree burns in the bathtub that she got prison time.
DJMutagen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel ya. Barely hotdogs in the fridge but my bio-mom always had nice things and a new bed. More perspective: I got kicked out at 16 for doing homework. Crazy bitch
Raven_7306 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh, Oklahoma summers. How I love them. OH MY GOD IT BURNS!!!!
Codythehaloguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Live in New Mexico now, and honestly I'd rather live there and feel with the humidity. It's so dry here I have nose bleeds daily.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit a 40" TV in 1994? I didn't know that was possible.
Equolizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might want to check out /r/raisedbynarcissists. What you are describing sounds a lot like narcissistic (in the sense of the personality disorder) behavior.
Equolizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory comment how the people in /r/raisedbynarcissists are all just spoiled brats.
jdsizzle1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Midsummer Oklahoma? So like mid-60s?
Codythehaloguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was apparently like 90 degrees in the house from what I understand.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate Oklahoma summers and no air conditioner makes it even worse
CatBedParadise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In 1994, that was an incredible luxury.
DuplexFields ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meanwhile, my dad went and did the responsible thing.
I still remember watching my dad in awe as he blew smoke rings in the living room. Then, my sisters were born and he stopped smoking. Years later, he told me how and why he had stopped.
My sisters were preemies, born too early. One of them had underdeveloped lungs, and the doc told Dad point-blank that she would die if he kept smoking. So he went to aversion therapy. They had him sit in a tiny room on a stool and smoke, and the only position he could hold his head was facing down. The smoke came up right into his eyes. He couldn't swallow right, and the drool was dripping down the cigarette.
My dad is the bravest man I know.
kazmtron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to hear that..
Lord_Varys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an urge to kill your mother.
Bogthehorible ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oklahoma, of course
marteney1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oooooookalhoma, where we'd much rather do meth than take care of our kids!
get8bit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, you remember a lot for only being two months old at the time!
kleecksj ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You remember so much detail for being too months old. Amazing!
Codythehaloguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because my father and grandmother had to deal with the details of why she lost custody of me when they went to apply for custody.
TheBallsackIsBack ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:04:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This shit is what pisses me off. This is what a welfare state creates.
AvatarWaang ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:27:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would like more stories please
BassPhisherman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:29:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's depressingly common. My dad has severe asthma too, and he has permanent neurological damage because his dad just straight up refused to stop smoking inside, and wouldn't take my dad to the hospital when he had attacks.
Fried_Turkey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:48:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, the 80s? (I survived too yay)
SoICanEscape ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:46:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry. I hope things are well with you now.
madpoontang ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:02:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do tell, miss
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:31:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CPS doesn't have the resources to remove all children who are neglected. And putting them in a group home is definitely not an improvement.
Jupiterswrath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite sad that many of the politicians who want to revoke welfare benefits also believe in cutting federal funding for services like CPS.
Aiurar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, they probably did call CPS, since physicians are required to if they even suspect that a parent is through intent or negligence endangering their child's health. Unfortunately, CPS is usually over worked, and they do not routinely investigate issues like the one you described until multiple complaints have been filed.
Xtinguish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And THOSE are the reasons CPS stepped in.
mzinz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CPS has way worse stuff to deal with.
Source: Law & Order
Quixilver05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What ranks higher?
Durzo_Blint ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Social workers are always overworked and have next to no resources. There simply aren't enough places to put these kids in a different home so they have to triage and prioritize based upon how threaten the kids are.
Mwclark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's some of the other bad decisions they made?
centech ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:18:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear god they didn't even teach you "there" versus "their".
DokFiSH ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:49:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, you made fun of a person with english as their second language. Here's your douchebag award; oh wait, douchebags don't get awards
centech ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( Well, at least I can definitely still be president of the United States.
DokFiSH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
redemption is sweet
cptstupendous ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:25:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or "severe" vs "sever".
Blindman84 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These were killing me too...
Lord_Skittlesworth ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:37:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds pretty sever.
anonymous_potato ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 22:41:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pray that he does not spell "lose" as "loose".
kahnpro ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He has altered the grammar. Pray that he does not alter it further.
kahnpro ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 23:19:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He has altered the grammar. Pray that he does not alter it further.
asphaltdragon ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:52:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I thought that was a type of asthma... Since she spelled it that way twice.
MugillacuttyHOF37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like you turned out quite well...
CarelesslyFabulous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a lot of interesting stories there "annon". Yowsa.
fjccommish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I notice you're still alive.
hispeedzintarwebz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly it's nowhere near as high priority as parents who let their children play unsupervised in their own yard.
trombonedarling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also possible to scare off CPS agents.
My mom scared them away all 5 times they were called.
snackies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah honestly if parents are smoking in a seperate room with the windows open. That's prettttty fucking severe athsma if she's having an attack due to that. Though granted it sounds like if she smelled like cigarette smoke then clearly they were smoking elsewhere. But yeah, still doesn't rank THAT poorly in terms of parenting.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna jump all over your ass for the missing comma, but I'm gonna let it slide in view of the substandard parenting. ;)
dbbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:11 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The doctor definitely should have reported it. Speaking from the medical side, not the legal side- health care providers have been mandated reporters in most of the western world for the last 40+ years, meaning they are legally required to report suspected cases of abuse and neglect in vulnerable populations, such as children and adults with diminished capacity. According to the US federal government, smoking around a child (especially one known to have acute asthma attacks) is a form of neglect in the same category as leaving a hand gun, crack pipe, or a piles of shit out in the open.
raknor88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe r/JUSTNOFAMILY would like to here from you.
RIPSonny ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For example not teaching you the difference between 'there' and 'their'?
Jk
drcash360-2ndaccount ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:33:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their*
BComplex ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:55:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, but... like to plays devil advocate... What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
peteheinch ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:07:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their*
needtopass00 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:17:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"there part" Obviously. Haha just kidding OP I couldn't resist.
IBitchSLAPYourASS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:24:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wut
VicRambo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their*
rigatron1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see.
Generic-username427 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:50:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*their
I see correct spelling was another parenting omission
HootieMane ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does not buying you 'Hooked on Phonics' top that list?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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LessConspicuous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're killing me.
jostler57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you'reyour
LessConspicuous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:07 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feels like another cold stab to the heart.
GredaGerda ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 20:44:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OP please follow up
master_x_2k ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 21:07:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He ded
The_Realest_Adam ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 21:19:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
she. She ded.
Gyrrith_Ealon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:28:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they all ded
Jamaican_Dynamite ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:47:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Errebody ded.
MonsterMango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ErreboRy red
GenesisAD ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:46:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
G.I.R.L
Guy In Real Life
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:24:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP OP.
mattsulli ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
RIP O-she
MuricanA321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lifeline severe-ed.
Usemarne ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:28:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's severed all ties
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I want to hear more about those decisions. Follow up op
AgedPumpkin ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They clearly failed to educate OP on they're/their/there. Someone call CPS!
Etherius ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:28:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you think CPS would even file paperwork on parents smoking in the same room as their asthmatic kid, then you either severely overestimate their resources or severely underestimate how many truly bad parents are out there.
Caelinus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:02:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The underestimate is the big thing. This is life threatening, but since they was not actively trying to kill their kids it is relatively low risk compared to most of what CPS has to deal with.
PragmaticMoth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some areas are starting to put legislation in place about smoking around minors, so in some areas it's completely possible nowadays.
whiteknight521 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:33:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't work that way. I know a kid who has asthma and his dad smokes around him all the time. Comes home smelling like smoke, etc. His mom even got the kid tested for nicotine metabolites and it showed up. None of that stuff is admissible in court so it doesn't matter.
iLickVaginalBlood ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:44:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pfffft. You'd have a better reaction from the Border Patrol.
CPS is the mall cop of the law enforcement world.
Noah-R ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:48:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psh, CPS won't do shit. You'd have a better shot of getting the animal rights folk to remove the pets than for CPS to remove the child.
Caelinus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is because they have too many children (and no where near enough foster parents) in the system already. They end up having to make choices about which children are most urgently in need of it. So parents being idiots is usually not enough.
My parents became foster parents when I was in high school, and the kids that came to us had often been literally tortured and abused to degrees that make me want to throw up.
smc5230 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:11:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um most likely not as second-hand smoke has only recently been taken seriously.
palmtr335 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:45:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People need to stop thinking that child protective services can help with any little bit of neglect. I know of a father who stabbed his wife in the ear, puncturing her ear drum who then waved around a gun threatening to kill himself. All in front of his 3 and 5 year old son. My friend (who was their social worker) could not do anything about it, as the government did not deem the situation as "severe risk of harm" to the child. Sure as fuck wouldn't do anything about parents smoking inside. It's pitiful.
Caelinus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What state is that? Because that certainly would be enough in Washington unless you got a terrible horrible judge who hates kids.
palmtr335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NSW, Australia. I've had mates work in the US, similar stories, though I'm not sure to this extent.
Caelinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yeah. It really comes down to where you live. I have heard some bad things about Austrailia when it comes to a few things like that.
Here the stabbing on its own would constitute a risk of harm, the waving a gun around would just cement it. Depending on circumstances (like mental illness) alternatives might be looked into, but I am pretty sure CPS would get involved.
palmtr335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's pretty dire here. Our version of CPS (FACS) does get involved, for example in the situation I gave, the family is receiving counselling, the govt just won't remove the children from the situation. All under the guise of "early intervention" and trying to "keep families together". It's so sad. Glad to hear CPS is more responsive.
Caelinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with the US is that I can only really speak for Washington State, because CPS is managed at a state level. So it could be vastly different other places.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:20:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As shitty as it is, this kind of neglect barely moves the alarm needle for a CPS worker.
WaffleSports ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're American Spirits bro they're all natural.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hah, CPS is never called for something this mild.
Spartancarver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately we can't call CPS about that :(
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:02:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They couldn't do anything about that anyway.
jdsizzle1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe today... maybe
My parents both smoked when I was growing up. In the house, car, while giving me a bath, tucking me in, making me breakfast, etc... I swear I remember ashtrays on shopping carts...
It was normal even in the late 90s. To my understanding CPS still can't do anything about that legally unless it overtly poses an immediate threat to a child, which I can't even think of a situation short of after some sort of fire.
While I'm talking about it. My parents raised me wonderfully and to the best of their abilities. Their smoking literally had no impact on my development to my knowledge short of my friends at school smelling smoke on me and being embarrassed. I will say that I did start smoking myself when I was younger but so did a lot of my friends who's parents never smoked so I see a slim correlation.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
different time back then, smoking was much more accepted than it is today. I used to wheeze when my mom smoked in the car and I would beg her to roll down the windows. She'd say, "No, I don't like it when the window warbles my eardrums." And would crack it less than an 1/8 of an inch. When I was younger, I'd come to school smelling like an oilman fresh off a 12 hour day pumping tar. It's ard to hide.
cantdressherself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If this person grew up living in my state, I would say it should take more than this to put them into foster care.
I've never heard anything good about the foster system around here.
Accademiccanada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Child protection should be the LAST thing to get involved. Government homes for children are far from happy and stable.
If the worst my mom did was accidentally give me asthma because she was smoking a cigarette, I wouldn't complain
Hillyb13 ยท 1819 points ยท Posted at 20:57:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohh I know these feels.
'but I smoke outside now'.... Yeah, right near my bedroom window that has to be open because my rooms a hotbox... Love waking up to the smell of smoke followed by not being able to breathe.
brecka ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 00:44:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always loved going to school smelling like a fucking ashtray, getting accused of smoking even in elementary school, and other kids tended to stay away from me because of how bad I smelled, and nothing I could do about it.
Ur_favourite_psycho ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:00:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mum wouldn't let me stay round friends houses if their parents smoked. I can see why, because I remember even after an hour of being at my closest friends house I'd go home and could smell the smoke on my clothes.
bigboobjune ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:45:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma smoked like... I'd say a chimney but that's insulting to chimneys. When she still lived at home my parents would go down to her house to visit/do chores and I'd always have to go. I hated it. She was cold, didn't want much to do with a 2-4 year old kid (she was only in her early 70s, a lifetime of alcohol and nicotine abuse had aged her considerably, though) and her and my mother would basically just sit at the table chain smoking while I stuck to my dad for a few hours.
I have several VIVID memories of getting in the car and promptly stripping down into my underwear and throwing it as far away from me as I could manage in an old GM vehicle (so pretty far). I'd then roll down the windows and try and get the smell out of my hair using the wind even though it never worked. As soon as I got home I'd demand a bath and a change of clothes.
Now whenever someone says "you'd never know that I smoke because I am SO careful. I wash my hands, blow the smoke away from me and always smoke outside!!" I just laugh and tell them that everyone can smell the smoke wafting off of them from a mile away.
Hair, fingers and mouths always stink like a rotten old ashtray and it makes me feel sick to my stomach to smell it, it always has. Even my mom, who quit almost two years ago, can suddenly smell how her sister really smells and she even wondered if she smelled too (yes, yes she did).
thekream ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thanks for the quality reply, sorry you had to go through that
clankton ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I quit smoking, it was how strongly the smell of tobacco would hit me that was a huge shocker. Huge sense of shame - good god did I really do that to my roommates/boyfriend/family members etc? There's no good way for a smoker to realize this without them trying to quit first, unfortunately. Luckily it seems like fewer people are taking it up than they used to...?
FluffySharkBird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have received hateful comments on Reddit from smokers because apparently they're so oppressed because people get angry at them. You know, for stinking up everywhere they go for no good reason. "But you can smell cars!" Cars do shit!
UrethraX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dawn near broke a window in the office after being accused of smoking at school, fucking cunts.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG I know these feels! On my first day of high school at a less than 'ideal' school, one kid ransacked me for ciggies because 'he could smell them on me and I should stop being a stuck up bitch and hand one over '
Crystalinfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:39 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbor had a super smelly dog. I have allergies and am stuffed up most of the time, I could smell the stinky dog but I'm sure I didn't get the full effect normal people got. Anyway She was some kind of "chemical" hating hippy and she didn't shower or use real soap with any frequency and she had a young daughter who was getting bullied at school. Probably because huh the dog stinks real bad and sleeps with you and sleeps on your bed and makes everything in your house reeks. She said she knew what the problem was with the dog but didn't actually do anything or treat the dog.
Grape_Room ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 23:45:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an adult with an immune disease, won't go into it but I get sick easier than others. My SOs side of the family chain smokes and smokes inside. We take every precaution but I end up with a sinus infection for a month every time I visit. I love them so much, but I am dreading our visit because of how sick I will get. This time, my doctors advised me to start a medication before we even get there to try and keep it from happening. It is awful.
pandemonium__ ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:36:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe sleep at a hotel or other sleeping arrangement and keep the visit short and sweet? Frankly, it seems like if they are family would give more consideration to your health issue. Good luck
banditkeith ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:40:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My relatives never listened. It was their house and by god they were going to smoke in it. One long evening visit and I might wake up with a sinus infection, chest congestion, bronchitis, who knows. But at least they got their smoke on
Grape_Room ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They try and smoke outside, but it's not enough. We jump around to other relatives houses so it's never too long in one place but yeah it sucks. They are old and set in their ways. I love them and enjoy visiting regardless, it's just something we have to plan for now.
Lugia3210 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:40:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could wear a gas mask. Seriously. You'll look badass too. And they're pretty cheap.
PopShark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recommend your local army surplus store
brightdeadlights ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:14:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry to hear this. I hope the medication works.
Grape_Room ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:15:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey thanks! Me too.
hellsponge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're an adult, so you could just not go there...
Grape_Room ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, except I very much enjoy spending time with them.
fosh1zzle ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. My parents would smoke with the windows up in the car because it would be freezing out. The heat would be cranked. The only fresh air I could get would be from stuffing my face between the crack on the edge of the backseat and the trunk. Like breathing through a straw.
hypotheticalhawk ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:53:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And the alternative: they crack the window a bit. So now you've got cold air coming straight at your face, as well as the ashes that don't make it out the window, and of course, the smoke. You curl into yourself to escape as much of the cold and ashes as you can. The cold hurts and the ashes are a nuisance. You count the number of puffs you hear them take, but to no avail. For as soon as you hear one parent flick their cigarette butt out the window, the other parent lights up. Will it ever end? How far away does Aunt Becky live, anyway? Surely you're nearly there; surely your suffering will end soon.
It's been hours now, and you're certain this has to be the last cigarette in the car. It must be. You've been keeping track. You've been counting. You've crunched the numbers in your head multiple times. You're certain. This is the last cigarette and soon you will be able to emerge from your smoke-covered cocoon of pain and torture! B-b-but wait--what's that new sound? You pray it isn't what you think it is. Against all hope, you strain your ears and hear it: one of your parents is rummaging around under the seat. They stop. A short, annoyed sigh breaks the silence. You breath a sigh of relief and then--RRRRRIIIPP--a single tear rolls down your face as you hear a carton being opened. There is no escape. You resign yourself to your fate. You will die a frozen, ash-covered ball of despair and misery, never again tasting the sweet, sweet taste of clean air.
fonzyii_17 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:46:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This honestly makes me so sad. I always knew it affected kids, but wow this perspective is unbelievably sad. This whole thread is making me hate cigs even more.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Baron_von_chknpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They've changed the laws now, it's illegal to smoke in a car with a person under 18 in it.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:59 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dang, sorry you had to go through that.
MinagiV ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:45:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG, this is my MiL. She sits right underneath my living room window. Open or closed, the smell still creeps in... I have 2 kids and another on the way. My 9 year old is constantly on her case to quit.
pm-me-puppypics ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:24:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had to have this convo with my MIL. Otherwise, she's great, but when we visit, she can't smoke in the house with my asthmatic kid. She went outside at first, but then eventually she started sneaking into the basement. I was not happy.
MJTree ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:33:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she's going to bother to go to the basement to smoke she might as well just go outside lol
Pipes32 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents thought they were being sneaky by popping into the (attached) garage...and keeping the garage door closed of course, because it's winter out, and they were visiting for Christmas.
Nope. I compromised by parking their car in my garage and they could smoke in their car. All car doors closed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is an MiL? Wait now I'm thinking mother in law
TeniBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You have it right.
Jajoo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU need to tell her to quit
MinagiV ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:30:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have. Multiple times. She literally has 3 people on her to quit.
zombisponge ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This
mitchyj91 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:43:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Its good for your cholesterol" Quote from Mike Nolen. Source Big Lez Show.
marx1st ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been dealing with this from my 1st floor neighbor (I'm on 3rd floor). He sits outside in his wheelchair on his patio all day smoking while hacking coughing. We love having our balcony door open for fresh air, but can't open it at all anymore because his smoke comes in and it's so strong you'd think someone was smoking inside our apt. Not to mention the nasty choking sounds he makes while coughing.
When it first started, we'd slam our door shut when he was out there to let him know we could smell the smoke. Our 2nd floor neighbors have done the same thing too. We've also tried telling the office people since it says there's no smoking allowed on patios. They spoke with him, but nothing has changed. We've even poured water on him while he was out there.
Asshole.
Lethalhitmen ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you guys tried talking to him instead of pouring water on him? Seems kind of childish to resort to petty and spiteful tactics even if he's in the wrong and all else failed.
marx1st ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:51:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We resorted to the water after apartment management brought it to his attention and he didn't stop.
Basscsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's still a dick move. The guys in a wheelchair and he's two floors down you can close your fucking door when you hear him politely cough loud enough for everybody to know he is outside. Or demand he be evicted and stop pretending like HE'S the asshole. Slamming your door is a piss poor communication method.
I have downstairs neighbours who scream. When they do so, I go downstairs and tell them to chill out, or if I'm feeling angsty, chill the fuck out. This always works. Talking to people face to face about issues you have with them is generally a good place to start.
Also what so you want wheelchair guy to quit smoking so you can have your window open all the time?
marx1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See above:
I don't think you understand the situation.
himit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
5' tall white girl here. Talking to people nicely has always worked for me, too. 'I'm sorry, could you be a bit more quiet please? We can't sleep!' is generally met by a yelled 'Sorry!' and a lower volume.
Granted I don't live in the US and I don't live in a ghetto, where I guess people might be a bit more aggro
Basscsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? Yeah people will probably get upset if you go down to START A CONFRONTATION but if you speak your piece and don't really give people a reason to respond when there isn't one, things can sometimes be alright.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:44 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'white girl '
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a no smoking apartment, so he's breaking rules anyway
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if he wanys the luxury of smoking then he needs to go to designated places for smoking in and around houses.
Like having a pet, some places don't let pets, others are okay with it.
iznotiz ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:29:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess: You're a white male. I can smell the entitlement. You know what happens when a minority woman politely asks the upstairs neighbors to chill? Beaten up. Raped. A white woman speaks to her neighbor about controlling his dog? The dog is turned on her right there.
When you're white and male, you have a lot of options most people don't have.
Jack_TheTripper ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:33:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds a little extreme...
r2u2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:39:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of the most pathetic things I have ever read.
You need to see a therapist.
iznotiz ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You don't like stories from my apartment complex? Gosh.
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:41:15 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, we don't like your stupidity. Go somewhere else and don't breed. Please. Sincerely, everyone.
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. What the fuck? I can't actually comprehend this. Someone please translate from cunt to civilised human.
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:29 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been in a similar situation where I've had to confront neighbours (dog kept trying to eat my dog when we went on walks cuz the dog was never contained properly), what I've learnt is that unless there is currency that the other person values or wants (like peace between two neighbours) then the other person doesn't give a crap. They'll continue what they're doing because there is no benefit from them stopping.
Not everyone cares about other people's health, feelings, whatever. So there is no currency. So it'll more than likely keep happening.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Keep spamming the real estate or whoever owns the place. My sister had the same problem and literally sent the same email everyday for a few weeks. Also, IDK if you cab do this where you are, but in Australia, there's laws and ombudsman that you can contact of the real estate won't do anything.
GenocideSolution ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
buy him a vape and vape juice, then supply him with lower and lower concentrations of nicotine until he's sober and doesn't know it.
marx1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that, that shit's expensive!
wayfar3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, you sent your apartment manager to talk to your neighbor instead of (politely) talking to him yourself. Then you poured water on the guy. He's outside. If you ask him nicely, maybe he'd trouble himself to find a spot that would bother you less, but he's under no obligation to. Fat chance of that now that you've poured water on him though. Maybe he's done some stuff your not talking about here, but if smoking is his only vice, you're the asshole dude.
marx1st ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoking on patios/balconies is prohibited according to our lease. That's why we involved apartment management instead of confronting him ourselves.
Sojoez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or how about people smoking right outside the hospital doors? "But I'm outside!" "Yes, you fuckhead, but I still have to walk through your smoke!!"
Hillyb13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:32 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yes!
My favourite thing to do at work is shoo people away from the doors and make them walk 50m away from the entrance. They get sooooooo cranky.
Jeffde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This hits the bullseye
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:22:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, if you have a problem with it maybe you should ask them to leave your house.
OCLBlackwidow ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:31:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah parents, get out of your house!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:47:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the entire point. He's living in their house and complaining about what they do in it.
Maybe he should move out if it's such an inconvenience rather than living on somebody else's dime?
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:12 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't really move out when you're 10 at the time haha. I'd have loved to.
marx1st ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But they did leave the house
tedsmitts ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, nature should have taken care of you a long time ago. You're making the species weak, Timmy.
Hillyb13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:30 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure you know how natural selection and 'weak species ' work.
Pollution from cigarette smoke it a man made thing, human bodies were not initially equipped to deal with it like they do with adapting to temperature.
tanman1975 ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 20:31:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did they stop smoking in the house?
SharkFart86 ยท 860 points ยท Posted at 21:30:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why anybody smokes in their house. I'm a smoker, and while I understand the convenience of smoking in your living space, it's not worth the near-permanent smell, extra dust and ash, and yellowing of your walls.
Although I do think about it when it's freezing cold outside.
Drail ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:41:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoker as well, don't smoke indoors even though it's allowed in the place I rent. Another thing some smokers need to understand is that not everyone enjoys the smell of smoke. I've washed my hands, chewed a piece of gum, and walked a few yards from the crowd waiting for a light on the street corner plenty of times. Smoking indoors just makes your place less welcoming for company.
tottottt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:50:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Every time I visit my FIL all my clothes smell like cigarettes. And I was a smoker and don't really mind the smell but the stink in his house is something nasty and every surface that used to be white is bright yellow.
genghiskhannie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I kind of miss that about smoking. In a conversation that you don't want to be in? Light a cigarette, show no concern for where smoke is wafting. Conversation over. Definitely a dick move, but effective.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine had an apartment where the previous tenant was a smoker, and the walls were an odd shade of yellow-tan.
One day, the shower broke and basically steamed the house. The walls were actually a stark white, and the old smoke residue was running down them.
[deleted] ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 22:36:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Sam-Gunn ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 22:39:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those videos of cleaning smokers houses are incredible. After only a few years it leaves a FILM that you can actually scrape off from things like blinds.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:54:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember watching some TV show or something a while ago where the people were smoking so much in their living room that it fucked their TV
NeedRez ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:40:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anything with fans pulling in that air are going to be saturated. I've had to work on computers and laptops outside because they would stink so bad.
Siouxsie2011 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:05:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to think computers would just naturally grow a layer of dust inside like mould grows on cheese, wasn't until about a year after I'd quit smoking and got a new PC that I realized gosh that old PC was just nasty and coated in tar inside
Queen_Jezza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If some of your fans have filters and some don't, make sure the filtered ones are intakes - try not to have any intakes that aren't filtered. Radiators count as filters for this and it also helps if you have slightly positive pressure inside the case, so dust won't be drawn in through panel gaps. This will help against the dust, but won't do anything about smoke.
dyldog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any links to specific videos you recommend?
Lrack9927 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. I helped clean my ex's great grandmothers house once. She smoked everyday and all her windows were covered in a yellow film. It was pretty gross.
edit: a word
MT_Straycat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and I bought our house from two chain smokers. Before we could even think about moving in, we had to scrub down every inch of wall and ceiling with heavy-duty cleaner 3 times. Buckets had to be dumped every few feet because the water kept turning dark brown. It was horrifying. We wore respirator masks and I had to keep sucking on peppermints and drinking ginger ale to keep from throwing up. Then we could finally prime and paint the walls and ceilings.
...I won't even go into the saga of the carpeting and scraping/sealing subflooring due to pet urine.
lifeslittlelunatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my aunt who was an indoor smoker moved house we moved the paintings off the wall. Much to our surprise the wall colour behind the painting was white, we thought the lounge walls were painted deep yellow.
Cig smoke can gunk shit up. All that tar has to settle somewhere
[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 22:51:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I'm a smoker and I can smell the residual smoke odor on myself incredibly strongly and I know that it's even more strong to everyone around me.
I know a guy who smokes in his house and whenever I go in I notice the smoke smell too. After I've been there long enough I stop really noticing it but as soon as I go outside and come back in I can immediately smell it again. Same goes for my old car that I used to smoke in.
DWilmington ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 23:41:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One thing I've learned, not even for resale value (I've only owned shit old cars) but FUCK smoking in cars. You smoke one cigarette and that smell is there, it may fade some but even one cigarette and you'll always faintly smell it from the fabric.
I smoke but outdoors and if I felt like smoking on a road trip I'd pull over at a rest stop. I don't smoke much though, so one cig on a five hour trip is fine for me.
Will never let anyone smoke in my car. I've explained it to people and they've said "oh it's cool, I'll roll the window down."
Fuck no. I don't mind waiting if you want to smoke before we go or take a stop along the way.
And then they want to take three stops along an hour trip. No to that either, I won't mind one stop but you're not smoking in my car and we're not stopping every fifteen minutes.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:49:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I used to smoke in my old junker but now that I actually have a nice, relatively new car that should last me for many years to come, I will absolutely not be smoking in it.
ex_nihilo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Used to smoke daily in my Acura TSX and ten years later my brother in law drives it. It's never smelled at all. Floor vents on full blast to create air pressure, crack the window (don't open it too far, just a crack).
rightnowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother smoked in my car while I was overseas for 2 years. I made him buy like an industrial strength car air freshener, and I had that smell to drive me crazy until the smoke smell was gone. It took months.
CancerousCyberman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:33:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, we would not make good friends.
DWilmington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. If it's your car I wouldn't care, smoke em up as long as the windows are cracked, I'd join you for one or two (though I do feel weird smoking in a car as I never do). But your car? Road trip no problem.
Edit.. Relevant username, heh
Dthibzz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same. My parents are both 2 pack a day smokers who give zero fucks what anyone else has to say about where the smoke. It was just normal to me, then I had to start smoking outside when I moved in with my husband. His sinuses can't handle much fucking with, so it's just not an option. Now I'll never go back and I'll never make my kid live like I had to.
vaginasinparis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:30:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same! My parents and my brother smoked my entire life, and when I came home from university the first time the smell hit me so bad I had a coughing fit.
carenl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. I'm a smoker and can definitely smell it. I also dislike the smell of anyone else smoking near me.
AdelmarCruickshank ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:49:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also in the last few years there's been research into so-called third hand smoke, i.e. residual chemicals that are practically impossible to get rid of, which are harmful to kids. Also yeah I don't want my house to smell like ass.
Shijin83 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:00:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend whose parents smoke in their house. If you spend more than 5 minutes in there you'll smell like ash the rest of the day.
reddit_on_my_phone ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke in my house and literally everyone I know that smokes does as well. I'm not sure where all of you live because it's incredibly common here.
jkman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:44:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on how addicted they are. My mom is a 2 pack a day smoker. She lights one up almost every 10 minutes when shes in her zone (work from home). If she went outside every time she lit a cigarette, she'd be out there for a long time.
liverless ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 22:53:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"it's not worth the near-permanent smell, extra dust and ash, and yellowing of your walls."
You know this happens to your body too, right?
SharkFart86 ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 23:07:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I had no idea smoking was bad for you.
liverless ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:28:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Well, it totally is.
iLickVaginalBlood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey u/liverless, you drink a bit too much alcohol?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? I'm not even going to ask.
liverless ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:23:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perfect.
iLickVaginalBlood ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna share the story anyway:
So one night, I ordered Chinese takeout, but when I picked up the the food bag and brought it to my apartment, there wasn't any sweet'n'sour sauce. I looked around in the kitchen and wasn't able to find any sauce that would deem a proper substitute.
My neighbors always left their door unlocked and I knew they were gone for the night as they told me they were visiting or going somewhere. I checked their kitchen and wasn't able to find much, but curiosity got the better of me and I decided to check their bathroom, you know, for seeing how they do the nasty. I saw some rolled up toilet paper in the trash and I never really saw how pads and feminine products were disposed of -- it was pretty sour tasting, but nonetheless, I took it back to my place and squeezed the pads out, added some sugar, and blended my rice.
It was finger-licking good.
ekilz ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why the fuck did you start then? I can't understand why people still do it.
SharkFart86 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not that I think we should be telling kids this, but people often overlook the fact that smoking tobacco is enjoyable (to some people). It comes with serious risks, but so does high calorie food and alcohol. Still doesn't add up to a "good idea" admittedly, but that's why people do it.
adcas ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:06:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I quit a few years ago. I got Norovirus and when I started coughing up tar... ugh. That shit was nasty.
When I get sick now (it's not half as often) it's nice to just cough like a normal person!
liverless ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:28:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I quit when I started getting sharp pains in my side when I inhaled. It's been 2yrs!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funnily enough, that may not have been directly related to smoking. I get em too, doctor says it happens and is nothing to worry about unless it get actually debilitating rather than just a sharp pain.
Still good on you for quitting, shits terrible.
mildlyEducational ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:18:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude don't tell him that he'll start smoking again.
liverless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to believe a sharp pain is ever a good thing though...
dont_believe_sharks ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:22:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If smoking was bad for you, surely someone would have said something by now. Right?
OnlyRefutations ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:48:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoker who smokes inside here.
I bought the house, I smoke inside it because it's mine and I can. I realize it's petty but after years of renting (where I 100% am in favour of smoking outside) it is satisfying to light one up in my living room.
SharkFart86 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:14:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh don't get me wrong, I understand the mindset. My parents smoked inside until recently, and it was nice to just chill and smoke one while watching TV. And I love going to bars that allow indoor smoking (getting more and more rare in my area). It's just that grossness I can't stand that sends me over to the other camp. The only time your clothes smell good is immediately out of the dryer. Ash all over, dust becomes almost sticky, everything is yellow. Friends notice your place smells. Etc. I'd rather just go outside.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lamebaxter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stay in the same place 10+ years, maybe?
SuperTurtle24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you smoke near a computer at all? The inside PC of a smoker who smokes near it is pretty disgusting.
DWilmington ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:43:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get that you can but do you mind that everyone that visits is just put off by the terrible smell? Why not ecig inside and cigarettes outside?
You destroy the value of the home or it needs lots of work to get it not smell to sell and people visiting will just view your home like a leper colony.
I smoke, but I go outside.
I mean, you can, I just see so many drawbacks. And more power to you for doing what you want, I'm totally cool with you doing what you want on your own property, I'm just saying there seems to be a lot of eh results.
Slim01111 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:12:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you don't have pets
sausage_is_the_wurst ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:33:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or non-smoking friends who may want to pay OP a visit.
Ih8Hondas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but if you ever try to sell it your resale value is going to be shit.
lifeslittlelunatic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:59:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, your house your rules. Just be aware it may be a bitch to repaint as cig tar can bleed through new paint. Been there done that. You may need to put a really good sealing base coat/specific base coat on to stop the bleed through. Otherwise a good scrub,steam and elbow grease should get it out of everything else so should be good for resale.
OnlyRefutations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I moved in recently and everything needs replastering and lining papering before I paint anyway, so fortunately that's not a concern.
Thanks for the tip though!
dont_believe_sharks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rented an apartment that allowed smoking so I smoked inside. I bought a house and all new furniture along with it. The first morning I woke up in my new house I opened my closet door and OMG did my clothes stink. They were clean in the sence that I had washed, dried, and hung them up, but I smoked in my old apartment. So I had to wash all my clothes again and never smoked inside a house again.
mildlyEducational ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why don't you get one of those e-cig things for inside use? Same satisfaction but better home resale value.
kristinez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents smoked inside the house. I didnt smell smoke at all on anything. When i moved out and eventually unpacked some of my clothes boxes everything fucking reeked of smoke. it makes me so embarrassed to know how badly i mustve smelled in school to other kids when i was younger and i didnt even know because i was so nose blind to it.
dinodanthedeerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
garage my friend
Inquisitorsz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does smoking indoors set off smoke detectors too? That seems like a rather annoying issue.
Obviously you can take the battery out or whatever, but that kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it.
SharkFart86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not in my experience but I'm sure it happens depending on the size of the room, how many people are smoking, and the sensitivity of the detector. But I grew up in a smoking house and it's never happened.
And I know the smoke detectors worked because nearly every other time my mom or sister cooked something in the oven, more than one alarm would start screaming.
DRUNKEN_BARTENDER ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My city rarely gets cold, so I smoke about two cigarettes indoors a year. In my bathroom, with the fan on and shower running.
SharkFart86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Under the hood vent for your stove is another cheat I've seen people use.
DRUNKEN_BARTENDER ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like that'd spread the smoke too much in my apartment.
Curvypip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smoker here, I go outside when I'm at a friends house who's smokes inside. I refuse to contribute to that smell.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:50:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vape when indoors fammo
Fake_Versace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gets too cold out to smoke a whole cigar sometimes so I just vape.
MotherpunchR ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i hope thats a typo and really not a new thing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Na famalam
MotherpunchR ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:16:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ok fam-a-lam-ding-dong
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kk fambam
fruitasylum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad smokes in his bathroom.. It's disgusting in there.
DarkOmen597 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke cannabis indoors.
However, always near a window and out.
I know its still not as good as just dmoking outside but yea...
xiaowudao ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
weed smoke doesnt leave that near-permanent smell that cigarettes do though. It usually leaves the air in about a day.
DarkOmen597 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh? Why does cig smoke linger do much more?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weed smoke/smell dissipates, cig smoke doesnt
Erections_Of_Steel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a lady that smokes inside and you almost can't tell, but she literally deep cleans and washes the walls regularly and shampoos carpets.
Another guy only smokes inside under the oven vent when it's on when it gets super cold. I smell the dog before the cigarettes.
Not saying you should smoke inside, especially if you have kids, but once in a while with proper ventilation on story cold days and you should be good to go.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I vape, but smoke weed indoors (joints mixed with tobacco). Coming home, having dinner and a joint is the best part of my day. Standing out on the freezing veranda ruins the joint and I'd rather not have one than go outside.
sybil_vimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom smokes in the house, and my dad has asthma. I'm pretty sure it's the reason I had so many breathing problems as a kid. I had bronchitis twice in the space of about six months once, and I asked my mom to temporarily stop smoking so I could breathe, and she was like "Nope."
moratnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some friends bought a house off some heavy smokers.
They quite liked the beige/lemon the walks and ceiling were painted. Until they washed a bit of wall and discovered they were actually painted white.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At one of my old houses (a no smoking rental) I had my desk set up right next to a window. I would set a fan right up against the window facing outwards and some nights chain smoke while playing computer games if they Vyvanse still had me going after all my HW and studying was done.
Apparently it worked, because my neighbor who rented from the same management company (identical floorplan, same bedroom) had to pay smoke cleaning fines at the end of her lease when she had probably only smoked a handful of cigarettes inside across the year, whereas I'd go through half a pack some nights and never heard a thing about it.
raviolibassist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends and I who all smoked at the time went on vacation and requested a smoking room for our hotel stay, all excited to try it. When we did it just felt gross so we smoked outside anyway.
EmEffBee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The walls in my bathroom still sweat yellow drips from the previous tenants. They would smoke in the bath and use the built in soap dish as an ash tray..
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i do bathrooms when the weather isn't good
genghiskhannie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not get e-cigs for crappy weather?
Laureltess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in a two family house, and the other tenants smoke in our communal basement now that it's cold. Really annoying because our laundry is down there and the smoke has somehow disturbed some sugar ants that were down there. They came through the floor of our first floor apartment, as does the smoke smell occasionally.
glisp42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Funnily enough, that's the only thing I miss about smoking. Those freeze your balls off mornings and the first cigarette.
DrumhellerRAW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just imagine what your lungs look like.
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to buy sets of consoles and games and then sell them off individually for a profit. Electronics that have been in a house where people smoke are absolutely disgusting.
Ih8Hondas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered why people don't just use cold weather as an easy motivator to quit. Fuck standing outside doing nothing just to increase my risk of lung cancer.
Jdrawer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother smokes inside, and that convenience is very important to her. Also, there's the whole "nose-blind" thing.
patrickkellyf3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apathy. Especially middle-aged, elder people, they just don't care. "It's my home, I worked, I earned it" etc. which is true and great and valid and all but I live here too, and you're kind of fucking things up.
SirNarwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also horrible for you; the carcinogens stay in the walls so whenever you breathe inside your home you're breathing that in again. It's one of the biggest reasons for lung cancer too.
MotherFuckinTom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When we first moved into our apartment I didn't want to smoke in there even though we were allowed to. However, once winter hit we gave up on that. That's the nice thing about renting though. I don't have to worry about that shit.
legone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't understand smoking in cars either. Maybe if you have an old beater, but cars depreciate soo much when they're smoked in. It never goes away.
AntisocialDiggle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just moved out of a house on a military base that clearly had a smoker (or 500) living in it previously. I had to wash that yellow dripping shit off certain walls in the house. The house also had a constant smoker smell I couldn't get rid of. It was awful.
kasuchans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I smoke indoors, but only in this one giant frat-type house that's basically a hippie commune. It's got weed in the walls for years. It's just how it is there.
shane201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've done it a couple times, but I usually do it near an open window with the ashtray on the outside ledge.
SnArL817 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:41 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I never smoked in the house. Mostly because of the kids, but also because it was brand new. We mostly smoked in the garage. Quit smoking in September 2014. 6 months later, the battery backup unit for the fibre-interconnect failed and AT&T sent out a tech with a replacement. I figured he was just going to replace the battery, but instead he replaced the whole unit.
The difference between the old one and the new one was disgusting. The old one (which had been exposed to cigarette smoke for only 2 years) was yellow. The new one was gleaming white. The power strip it's plugged into is also yellow. Whenever I find myself craving a cigarette, I go in the garage and compare the color of the power strip to the battery backup unit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my wife only ever do when it's cold or raining outside, and only in our bedroom, the basement or the garage. I grew up in a house with 3 heavy smokers, so I didn't really see the problem with the whole second-hand smoke thing until my son kept getting pneumonia.
I almost wonder if humans are somehow de-evolving to adapt to an environment with fewer smokers. I was never sick as a kid, and I had relatives who lived into their late 90's smoking a pack or two a day for 80 years and never set foot in a hospital. Now it seems like anyone who is regularly exposed to smoke gets sick.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:03:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some adults do not seem to care. In my extended family, one woman smoked while pregnant. Her first child was born very small, and she has had asthma all her life. Because this young woman constantly saw her mother smoking, she now has a smoker live in boyfriend (!). The second child of this smoking lady has learning disabilities. She hid her smoking while pregnant for the second time. Also, her husband just passed away due to pancreatic cancer . He was not even 60, and as a devoted husband, allowed his wife to smoke around him and his kids. He never smoked himself. This woman would never admit any wrong doing. She used to claim her daughter's asthma attacks were due to the city's pollution.
BICHNEGA ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 20:39:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If not I would severly recommend it
edit: fuck I messed up while making fun of someone else for messing up.
AsAGayJewishDemocrat ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:15:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to waiterly recommending it?
swimfast58 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:16:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that like when the waiter recommends what wine to drink?
Goldballsmcginty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... Still not right. Severely haha
Wiiplay123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
thatoldhorse ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:45:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha, i had the same thing happen to me, except the doctor didnt smell my head he told my mother to "stop smoking in enclosed spaces." ten minutes later in the car she lights one up, thanks ma.
catsandflowers ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:07:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did not have asthma but a person at my daycare told my mom to stop smoking in the house because I smelled like an ashtray. A couple weeks later the same person realized that I smelled of some. She question my mother in her answer was "Well, I did stop smoking in the house but he smells like that because I smoke wehen I am in the car with him"
dialinga481 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 21:38:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother used to hold me down while I kicked and screamed and dosed me with a huge mask and really gross tasting asthma meds... then chain smoke as usual. When I was older we were having forest fire issues in our town and I got so bad that I couldn't get off the living room couch and my lips were turning blue. They took me to the hospital, I spent the night with meds and oxygen and when they too me home... yep back chain smoking.
Brilliant!
TaylorS1986 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:43:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And people call me insane when I think tobacco should be treated like any other dangerously addictive substance and not be something you can just by at a store.
kaeroku ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, though I think dangerously addictive substances shouldn't be controlled. Even though I don't use them myself, I think as long as it's only impacting yourself, it shouldn't be something the state has any say over.
Now, that said, I think that smoking around other people should qualify as assault with a chemical weapon and be charged and penalized accordingly.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:28:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That should be child abuse. I'm glad you lived! I have severe asthma too.
tyjet ยท 446 points ยท Posted at 20:57:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dealt with this too. Severe asthma. Hospitalized as a child because of a severe attack. My family continued to smoke. Looking back, my mom had a strong addiction to nicotine. I don't resent her for it. I don't think she fully understood what it did to me.
deaniebop ยท 827 points ยท Posted at 21:41:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother also had and continues to have a strong addiction to cigarettes. She has never once smoked inside any of our homes. Not even the cats are allowed near her when she smokes. She shoos them off the balcony, shuts the door, and waits until the smoke clears before they're allowed out again. Because she cares that the cats don't get sick.
icarusbright ยท 471 points ยท Posted at 22:25:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom is cool. Most people don't realise that smoke is hugely bad for pets. They have tiny lungs yo.
junepath ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 23:48:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom smoked inside this itty bitty tiny house. Never opened her Windows. She would smoke one right after another. If she was awake there was a cigarette in her hands.
She would call me sobbing every few months because one of her cats had just dropped dead. It happened frequently. She refused to believe smoking was the cause. It killed her too. I love her and I miss her every day and aside from the smoking she was amazing. But I struggle to forgive her for killing herself by smoking the way she did.
SkinnyAvocado ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:07:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is doing this currently. I don't know what to do.
junepath ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:18:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly there's nothing you can do. I even tried to tell my mom that I didn't want my daughter, who adored her (and who my mom loved beyond words) in her brand new apartment if she was going to smoke inside. She did it anyway. I've discovered that with an addiction like that, the smoking will always win. It just matters more.
paperconservation101 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:04:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My SO father stop smoking cold turkey after my SO was diagnosed with asthma. This was after a life of a pack a day.
Never smoked again.
Miqotegirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard losing your mom like that. But back when they started smoking, it wasn't known (or perhaps made public) how bad smoking was for you. So I give my mom the benefit of the doubt. I don't think if she had known she would die so young and leave me at such young that she would have ever started.
hugs it's rough.
junepath ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:42:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I agree, she probably started smoking in the late 70s, and had been (other than quitting when she was pregnant with me, but not with my brother) up until she died at 53. It's been almost 4 months since she died which feels like it can't even be real. Feels like just last week.
Miqotegirl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:30:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's ten years and it still hurts like it was last week. hugs mine started smoking in the late 50s and never stopped. My dad did and is as healthy as can be.
It's a hard road and it's okay to cry. I really wished I had cried more.
junepath ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The weird thing is, it almost hurts more now than it did when she died. The more time that passes, the more obvious her absence is. The shock wore off as the holidays approached and I kept busy but between that and general winter blahs, it's a little tough. Just trying to bury myself into hobbies and parenting. Which is exactly what she would have wanted, were she still here.
Miqotegirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The shock is what keeps you going for a bit. It was a good six months before I started to feel anything and unfortunately I got sick and didn't take care of myself well. The infection I got wouldn't go away and set off a chain reaction that led to lupus.
I threw myself into my business and new marriage, which is what my mom would have wanted. Lol! Seems like we're the same in that regard.
I wish I had gone to a counselor and worked out my grief. I kept it very bottled up to be strong for my mom's father and my own dad. That was overrated. My dad grieved in a healthy way and while he'll never get fully over losing his partner and bff, he has built a new life with a lovely new wife. My grandfather never recovered and passed away a couple years later. I really miss him.
Be sure to look after yourself. If you feel yourself slipping, don't be afraid to talk it out. All of your emotions are valid. I wish I had more wisdom to give you. :)
stumptowngal ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:42:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would like you to write a science lecture series, just like this.
For example: "There are 206 bones in the human body. Word."
stopstealingmyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to smoke inside, then I noticed one day my white cat turning yellowish (reference was kitten him, all white on the fridge). I stopped smoking inside that day. I'm still stupid and smoke, but never around my cats anymore. Sorry creatures.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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StillLetto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldnt say so. In an outdoor setting like that, the dog is getting very little-to no actual smoke inhalation. The problems are when 1) they are young, 2) the smoke is inside or confined, and 3) when the owner frequently smokes. Taking the dog out while you have a smoke isn't going to hurt the dog anymore than if you were to just take him for a walk anyways.
sweetpotatospumpkin ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:22:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep my parents are both the same way. On one hand, it's a super gross addiction and it would still make us smell slightly like smoke (something I was super self conscious of when I was little) but they would only ever smoke in the garage. Even in sub zero weather. We were under no circumstances allowed in the garage anyways (dads tools) so I basically kept 99% of the smoke away from us which I am very grateful for.
kobayashimaru13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:49:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad couldn't quit smoking until he had a heart attack. He tried so many times with gum and patches, but it took him having a heart attack, which luckily was mild, for it to finally stick.
sparklingslayer666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:46:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just quit (again), but, before I did, I always smoked outside, and would wash my face and hands beefier touching my cats.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, what's a hands beefier?
But, yeah. I was a religious hand-washer after smoking. It just sticks to everything.
MinagiV ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:51:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother would bleach bomb our house nearly every day. You could not tell she was a smoker/smoked in the house. She started smoking when she was 13, smoked off and on when we were little (she quit for the nearly 3 years she was pregnant in the mid-80s), then when she had her last baby 16 years ago, quit once and for all. Us 3 older ones tried to get her to quit for about a decade, and were so happy when she was all done.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom was the same way. Never ever smoked inside her house or apartment, always waved it away from us if we passed by, or she'd stand as far away from us as possible.
skyrimisagood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes same here with my grandma. It's not that hard to go outside, or take a walk and smoke, how selfish do you have to be to do it indoors with a kid.
SirNarwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it's on her clothes and even on walls of the house it's honestly still fucking horrible for you.
shikax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell her to try vaping. It's different, but the nicotine hits are still there. I sure as hell feel a lot better after having made the change.
Kimber85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to my Father-in-Law, who smokes inside the house constantly while his wife's cat has asthma so severe she sounds like Darth fucking Vader. I've tried telling my husband we won't be staying with them when we have a baby, but he got upset. My Sister-in-Law smoked while she was pregnant and "my nephew turned it fine!".
piratepowell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was this dope chick at a festival who would ask everyone around if they were okay with her smoking before she lit up, and she would always blow the smoke away from us. Judging by her usage she was a pretty serious smoker, but she was very considerate about it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish that every parent who smoked was like your mom
Aerowulf9 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:29:20 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You must live someplace warm. Must be convienent.
RazTehWaz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:14:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least your mother has an excuse. Mine knows that her perfume triggers asthma attacks in me (been hospitalised for that exact reason before) yet she still wears it every day and wanders into my house without a care in the world. She even gets pissed off when I tell her to leave so that I don't die...
hellsponge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Call the cops for her trespassing?
unsureblankets ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:20:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully my family was the opposite. Had to be taken to the hospital, that day my grandpa said he was done. A few months later my nana stopped. My mom took longer, but she did eventually stop for my sake, and she started smoking outside if she HAD to.
tyjet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom tried her best to quit smoking/smoke outside but the addiction was really bad for her.
mullerwt ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:17:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, neither of my parents cared until I moved out. While I was in their house they said it's my house, I pay the mortgage I'll smoke if I want.
Sad thing is that both my sister and I have had to get glasses and both doctors attributed our poor eye sight to the amount of smoke in our house.
Side note: they don't smoke in my house, it's not out of respect though... it's because I've told them they can leave if they decide to do it.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:41:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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dragonflytype ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:26:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe prolonged irritation (which would include mild inflammation)?
skittymcbatman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:01:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eye also have no idea.
Anarroia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me take a look at that for you.
ChloroformScented ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, please. Eyesight and cigarette smoke?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:11:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't surprise me. If your eyes are stinging and straining all day it's not going to be good for them. It's amazing now how many kids simply don't know what that's like.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:03:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter if it would surprise you. It's simply not a known phenomenon.
swiftlyslowfast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm, no. There is no correlation between second hand smoke and eye sight.
ChloroformScented ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK, I looked this up because it just seemed silly to me. The only thing that can happen to eyes through second hand smoke is dry eyes. There's some stuff that regular smokers have a higher chance for, but none for second hand smoke.
You and your sibling needed glasses because of genes, not because of smoke.
TechnicallyUhNah ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:31:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea how one develops this skill. How do you forgive somebody like that? How are you able to get past the ignorance part? I'm not being facetious. I want to be more like you.
tyjet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Other than the smoking, my mom did everything to give me the best childhood she possibly could. She was not selfish. Often sacrificed to make sure I was provided for.
Syfildin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:37:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, at the end of the day, it's your mom. There are very few instances where they literally don't care for you, and it's hard not to love your mom, no matter what. I know there are exceptions, but everyone makes mistakes.
SevenSirensSinging ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the OP, but addiction is a powerful thing and nicotine addiction is one of the most common and hardest to kick. Addiction clouds a person's judgement (to the people who say nicotine doesn't count in that because it's not an intoxicant, ever see a smoker choose between cigs and food? I have.) and the habit is so heavily ingrained that a lot of them can't imagine a routine without a cigarette in hand. My mother began everyday with a cigarette, every meal was followed by one. She smoked literally during every single event of her day. In my case, my mother was also abusive/neglectful and I don't forgive her for any of that. I could look past the smoking, if everything else wasn't there. Even the best people have flaws.
TheProphecyIsNigh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not even after the hospital?
tyjet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really, no.
VanillaCoke223 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, my mum smoked around me but it was never too bad, now that I'm living with my grand parents I cant stand it, they chainsmoke constantly downstairs and in the car, no wonder I hide in my room. Worst part is the smell of smoke makes my travel sickness worse.. ugh
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she ever consider switching to dip/chew? No smoke, no smell, way more nicotine, half the price and about half the cancer risk. I've mostly switched but I still have a cigar every now and then.
tyjet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She stuck with cigarettes until the day she passed away from other health problems.
rnawmomof3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She probably didn't. We take for granted how much we know about it now, it's easy to judge with so much hindsight.
GEARHEADGus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same here but my parents were insanely careful about where they smoked
SevenSirensSinging ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend has asthma, both of his parents have smoked his whole life and I believe his mother smoked while she was pregnant. He started smoking around 14 and quit about 8 months ago at 23. I'm very proud of him. The culture here (US south) is heavily biased toward tobacco use. He told me he quit so he'd have a better chance of being there for me and our kids.
My mother smoked constantly in the house and in the car with the windows rolled up. If we coughed, we were punished for "whining" and "trying to make her feel bad". I lost part of my hearing due to an ear infection, of which I had many as a child. I believe I may have asthma, but only realized recently that that might be the case. If I do, I've had it all my life. I am not a smoker, never have been. I love that my boyfriend doesn't smell like cigarettes anymore. It was very hard for him to quit, I don't believe that it's possible for everyone to do so, but there's no excuse for smoking indoors/around non-smokers.
tyjet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the US South, too. It's heavily ingrained into the culture here. My asthma has improved but I still have the occasional day when it gives me trouble. I think just getting away from it has helped. I absolutely don't allow it in my home. I make my guests smoke outside.
faithfuljohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
don't confuse selfish for ignorant. Most smokers I know smoke outside and they have no issues doing it.
jimmy_talent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I never had asthma but when I was a kid my mom would always smoke in the car with me and my sister also in the car and it used to make me so sick, years later I started smoking and she had quit and I lit a cigarette in my own car with her in the passenger seat she bitched endlessly about how rude it was to smoke in the car with non smokers in the car.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:07:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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JasonDJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense. AAP says second- and third-hand smoke is a SIDS risk. I wouldn't chance it.
Trumpstered ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:05:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right up there with, "If you smoke, you might have a miscarriage. I highly advise not smoking."
Inevitable miscarriage.
"Oh why why why did this happen?" sobs uncontrollably
Lady_Eemia ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:46:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still firmly believe that "pro-life" people should be lobbying to make smoking and drinking while pregnant illegal, instead of abortion.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:42:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not illegal??
ilulisaat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:40:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a ton of things a pregnant woman can do that harm a fetus, can't make them all illegal. Would be really difficult to enforce as well.
Lady_Eemia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope!
Giving your child fetal alcohol syndrome is totally legal and okay, but terminating a fetus a few weeks in is totally a hell-worthy sin.
TaylorS1986 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:46:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom smoked when she was pregnant with me. I was born 9 weeks early and I have Asperger's and ADHD. I would be so happy if all tobacco simply disappeared, as far as I'm concerned it's evil, nasty shit on the same level as meth.
whiskeycrotch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a littttttle worse than meth. If your mom would've done meth her entire pregnancy, you'd be way more fucked up.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:31:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TaylorS1986 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did, too.
rglitched ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:41:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As did I but I'd never connected it to my mom's smoking before. Didn't know this was a thing.
Spyrothedragon9972 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:39:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent detective work Dr. Doctor.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can relate. I had surgery on my left lung when I was 7, and had to use a drain tube for days. One day, the nurse entered the room and caught my dad smoking.
idontevenarse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most smokers seriously don't understand how effective that Shit spreads. And no, the visible smoke is a very minor part of what you're releasing.
HoodedPotato ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:41:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like borderline child abuse!
---annon--- ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:21:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My family was and still is garbage salad
TilapiaRealness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you raised by a pack of wolves?
unclefisty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:22:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wolves don't smoke and actually care about their young.
iceykitsune ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:31:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ftfy
NotJake_ ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 20:53:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just ignorance/stubbornness. Easy there SJWs.
metalshadow ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:59:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would still be classified as abuse even if it's out of ignorance
NotJake_ ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:01:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but its not worth getting the pitchforks ready.
PieRobot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I just got this sharpened! Now what am I gonna do with it?
NotJake_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bale hay.
RockLobster89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When someone is stupid enough to endanger the life of their child, yeah, it's cause for anger.
michaelgrabow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:18:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you don't know what the word fatal means.
NotJake_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely do. Sometimes people are idiots.
jinxandrisks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:30:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd agree if they hadn't been told specifically not to smoke in the house. It's one thing to no know, but they blatantly ignored medical advice to the detriment of their child. That absolutely qualifies, I'd think.
Supernight52 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neglect through ignorance/stubbornness could be considered borderline abuse. Not saying it is, but I understand how someone could see it as such.
rglitched ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can't plead ignorance to someone who gave you explicit instructions so that's out. Knowingly hurting your child out of stubbornness isn't mitigating so that's out too. 0/2.
D0nil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Easy there SJWs" BWAHAHA Nowadays if someone doesn't like ANITHING he's a "SJW". This term reminds when as kid there was this stupid word everyone repeated just to sound cool, but then you realized you sounded like an idiot.
TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people forget that smoking is just like any other drug addiction and smokers will rationalize their drug use abd make excuses like any other addict will.
I got ear infections constantly as a kid because of my parents smoking and I blame that for my tinnitus now.
um_hi_there ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:41:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wha . . . I just . . . seriously?
mxer981 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:10:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that anyone can reproduce.
Shazarabbit ยท 372 points ยท Posted at 23:00:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but my husband was an in patient at emergency when I overheard the doctor next to us. The doctor was German and the patient was Aboriginal, both with thick accents possibly making it harder to understand each other.
Doctor: You need to stop drinking, your liver isn't working. Patient: I don't drink. Doctor: You have cirrhosis of the liver, you need to stop drinking. Patients Wife / Daughter: He doesn't drink. Doctor: No more alcohol. Patient: Okay, I'll only have two a day.
HansumJack ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:06:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What could they possibly have thought drinking meant?
ziburinis ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:25:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is very naive, some of that was fixed by having teenagers and explaining sexual slang and jokes to her. But when she first donated blood she was much younger. They asked if she drank. She said "Of course I drink, who doesn't?" They eventually explained to her that when asked that in a medical setting, it means alcohol.
Alatar1313 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 06:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Disability attorney here. I now always ask in my initial interview "do you drink alcohol?" rather than just "do you drink?" for this reason.
Lewis_Cipher ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:47:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I was that guy, once. Admittedly, it was after a pretty vicious motorcycle crash, and I was only about half-aware of what was going on in that ER station. When the nurse asked if I'd had anything to drink, I went with the literal interpretation.
Cpt_Tripps ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm social awkward so that question usualy gets answered in a rambling response of
I don't drink
well I drink water and stuff lots of it
but not alchohol
well like once or twice a year ill go out to the bar or something but not every day or anything.
bubblegrubs ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:41:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair to her a medical professional should really ask medical questions without using slang.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:41:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water is for drinking, and that's bad. We don't do that. Alcohol is for health and strength. - Aboriginal patient, possibly.
Shazarabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea, but I can tell you we were both shocked when we heard it.
OverpoweredCharizard ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:34:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was he possibly named Craster?
[deleted] ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 02:28:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Shazarabbit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea what was crossing his mind, there could be an underlying medical issues. But I was shocked myself.
fizzunk ยท 258 points ยท Posted at 01:12:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in Japan teaching English. One of my students is a 2nd year nursing student.
When talking about our weekend I told her I donated blood and she freaked out. As in "you can't give foreign blood to Japanese people or they'll die" freak out.
Did I mention the 2nd year nursing student part?
Passing4human ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 05:05:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Japanese have some odd ideas about blood.
VerifiableFontophile ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 09:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This explains why Japanese video game Character bios usually include blood type.... I always wondered why that was the case.
save_the_last_dance ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:10:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the guy who plays visual novels and dating sims
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:02:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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VerifiableFontophile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually RE is exactly where I remember it from... and I'm pretty sure I remember the FF7 Character bios including this too... Here's hoping RE7 doesn't suck.
crazymcninja ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:14:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not surprised. Japan is incredibly biased against foreigners.
Drewbieee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I live here and I wouldn't say they are biased in a negative way towards Americans at least. People usually react positively or not at all to me and the foreigners we all know.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. Japan was a wonderful place for me to learn tone. It's not what they say, it's how they say it. I heard a few use a tone that clearly meant gaijin = n-word. Mostly, though, just being American made me a rock star. That was a while ago, though, everything changes. Would love to go back, but have no idea how things are now.
winterwheels21 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 07:16:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their word for foreigner (gaijin) could be substituted for the n word for non Japanese.
Trientalis_latifolia ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:13:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their word for foreigner, gaikokujin (ๅคๅฝไบบ) literally translates to 'outside country person'. It's a literal description of what a foreigner is. The assertion that this word is equivalent to the 'n word' probably depends largely on who is saying it and what their tone is.
winterwheels21 ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 08:43:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well doctionary facts do not sum up the culture for sure. Do some reading up on it ;)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:09:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When one word is so bad that you won't even type it, but the other you freely type with no remorse....you know the n word is not comparable to any other word in its level of offensiveness.
winterwheels21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no problem with any racist terminology in any language. However, reddit mods sometimes get finnicky about it ;)
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, it's easier to slip the foreign language slurs by, because reddit is mostly English speaking. People wouldn't take offense at some of the things I could say, just because they wouldn't know to take offense.
And you better believe some of the old-school countryside Japanese definitely mean "nigger", and worse, when they say"gaijin". Kurojin is maybe even worse, when used by certain folks in a certain way. It may be different now, but when I was there kurojin were at the very bottom of the totem pole.
winterwheels21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Amen brutha
crazymcninja ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:58:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
damn, I knew it had negative connotations but i didn't know it was that bad.
radiantbutterfly ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:28:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's not anywhere near the n-word
it's mildly insensitive/not-PC, unless you're aggressively slurring it at people and adding derogatory tone markers to your speech (in which case the tone is the problem more than the word itself- kind of like how "Mexican" is not inherently offensive, but if you hear someone talking about "the mexicans" in a shitty tone you can probably assume racism)
source: am gaijin
loomynartyondrugs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:09:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a lot like the word 'Jew' as far as I understood it. Where just tone can change it from accurate description to slur in an instant.
pink-pink ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:28:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The american red cross kept white and black blood separate until 1950.
Apex_Herbivore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow.
I never thought they would take it that far but in the twisted logic of segregation it makes sense. . .
Crystalinfire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:08:36 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Besides the obvious racism... Back then they may have had a point. If someone is chronically underemployed then they are probably are not going to be eating as well as they could so their blood could be lacking in certain nutrients or just in iron levels. The American red cross will not take your blood if it doesn't have enough iron in it now.
Red Cross Guidelines for blood donors
Red Cross low iron content
Then there is sickle cell anemia which is more common in African American populations.
There has been tests with "tired blood" blood from tired dogs (I believe) and "young blood" blood from young mice injected into old mice and vice versa.
Edit: when I say tests on the last part I mean scientific studies where definite changes were shown soon after transfusions in test subjects.
mandaabearr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:04:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also in Japan as a navy corpsman. I've heard this multiple times from patients and from their workers when I tried to donate blood outside the clinic I work at, I was very confused
xrainxofxbloodx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:11:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't there a thing where if you go to another country, you can get sick easily because your immune system isn't used to all the things there? (SUPER professional technical lingo, I know) So maybe they thought their blood could carry everyday things they weren't adjusted to?
Ah I'm probably making an ass of myself...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tourist diarrhoea? Specifically, from food contaminated with various bacteria
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:23 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... sort of true. If you went to say, a first world country that you haven't been to, like going from America to Europe, you're probably okay because hygenine is just as good there. Just avoid raw food. But a country like India or many others around that region have VERY different flora and fauna, and very different microbes. Your immune system hasn't been exposed to these microbes so it doesn't know how to respond at first.
However, it wouldn't matter if blood was from a foreign country and infected or not anyway. All donated blood goes through a rigorous testing process to make sure it doesn't have anything that can make you ill in it. Remember, a lot of these people receiving transfusions are already immunocompromised- they could be transplant patients, for example, or undergoing chemotheraphy, so you'd want to take extra precautions to ensure they're completely safe. So all the germs are weeded out anyway.
Eiethr way, you are right that someone will probably react less severely to a pathogen they've grown up surrounded by. For example, when the conquistadors moved into the Aztec and Maya Empires, their ships and soldiers were infected with smallpox. Even though smallpox is bad for everyone, duh, it had less of an effect on the conquistadors because they had been exposed to it from a young age, allowing their immune system to adapt. The locals died out because their bodies hadn't ever experienced something like that.
Rikolas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:55:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unpure blood!
Leohond15 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:24:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How are people this fucking stupid not weeded out?
SavvySillybug ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 04:09:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
German here: we tried that stuff in the 40s. Turns out weeding out people is frowned upon.
Leohond15 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
o.O You do realize I meant "out of the nursing program"
[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 04:17:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're gonna do it...do it right.
Polar87 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:28:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well this is awkward.
xgravity23 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:40:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure that's the final solution for the problem.
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:33:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This entire comment thread has me busting a gut and feeling bad about it.
stygger ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:16:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't remove the cancer fully it will spread again...
Dr-luckystrikesLSMFT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to come off as racist, no doubt i will. But, I can assure you, and anyone else who sees this, I'm far from it. But, an observation, that I'm fascinated with, I've been searching for an answer on and off, for years. How come it seems as if most people from foreign countries, don't understand the most simple concepts? I can understand, not understanding certain types of humor, but if i had a fairly decent grasp of another language, I don't see myself being confused on something like you mentioned in your post. I work with a Hmong women who for the life of her, doesn't understand what snow is. She also doesn't know you cannot drive normal when it's all over the road. She's been here over 20 years, and still doesn't get it. And simply put, I don't get it. If I went to where she was born, and lets say it rained glass. I'd most likely go, okay, that's odd, but let me think about what could be causing this first. Next, I'll ask someone. Then I'll research, and know exactly why it rains glass, and I will forever know why it exists, and how to handle it. I sound terrible, I really do, but it's almost frustrating.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:37:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly? Independence and self reliance aren't a thing in some countries. You rely on a code, a set of guidelines set by your ancestors and everyone is expected to follow them and not question it. Anyone who does so is labeled a weirdo and an outcast. While that sounds extreme, it's kind what happens.
save_the_last_dance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:44 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because you had an education that at the very least, introduced you to the scientific method and told you you were a bad/stupid person for not being able to adjust to change in the pursuit of solving a problem. That, if you have a square hole and a round peg, you cannot, in fact, try to put the round peg in the square hole, but that you must pick up a square block instead and use that. Unfortunatley, many countries don't teach people, either in school or out of it, to be flexible and think with their heads, but rather, "monkey see monkey do", and "don't ask questions, it's seditious and rude". So, yeah. Blame culture. It's not a racial thing, it's a "this is why certain countries own all the wealth and another countries do not" thing. There's a reason the Hmong were the ones paying tribute to the Han and their emperors and not the other way around.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Come to /r/japan. We got yer crazy.
tw231116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not too surprised by this. Japan used to teach as scientific fact that Japanese people are biologically different (i.e. superior) to other humans. Not anymore, but there is still a pervading xenophobia.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you fuckin gaijin - get your filthy blood out of here.
Angel_Hunter_D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Turns out some places do have odd blood types, like Bombay blood, and foreign blood isn't always quite as useful.
wilusa ยท 993 points ยท Posted at 21:46:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is kind of the opposite. I'm a patient and went to a doc in the box because i hurt my foot and i have diabetes. (foot injuries should always be checked when you have diabetes) the Doc at the urgent care pricked my finger and saw that my sugar was 150. I just had lunch and my "normal" is between 120 and 150. He told me i had to lower it and said i should drink a coke because coke always regulates peoples sugar for some reason and he doesn't know why. I say no thanks and and he gets all mad cause he's the Dr and doesn't want me to leave until my sugar goes down. I called my real Dr while he was out of the room and after getting yelled at for going to a doc in the box he said he'll take care of it. 2 mins later the nurse came in and i was free to go. I didn't see the Dr. on the way out. Either with a different patient or avoiding me. Ill never go there again.
Edit: A "doc in a box" is any urgent care facility acting as a primary/ER but not quite either.
LordSameth ยท 883 points ยท Posted at 23:05:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should've gone to see Dr. Pepper
PoorPappy ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:09:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why does Dr. Pepper come in a can? Because his wife died.
mecaenas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:22:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it...
PoorPappy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:59:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
upon hearing the question most people think of the beverage by that brand name. The answer reveals that Doctor Pepper is the name of a man. His wife being dead, he has found a new place to come.
mecaenas ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:16:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. It's a drink. Huh. I thought it was some reference to a Beatles album.
Maur2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:52:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, that is Sergeant Pepper. Dr. Pepper's less popular younger brother.
nmpibb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think of the can as being shaped like a box. A stained, bad smelling box.
PM_ME_DANK_MEMESS ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:02:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
cough cough cumbox
Rambozo77 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But avoid Dr. Acula.
Ithinkiplaygames ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dr pepper is back
_Bucket_Of_Truth_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer Dr. Spaceman
my3rdaccountdammit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*Dr Pepper. He doesn't use a period after the 'r'.
berthejew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coca-Cola came to town
Diet Pepsi shot him down
Dr Pepper fixed him up
Now I'm drinking 7-UP
Bradillac ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Literally LOLed. Most underrated comment here.
smokeout3000 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:23:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I want other people to know how much I appreciated that comment too!
Only without the downvotes.
LordSameth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! ^
Tjodleik ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 23:07:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What ... How ... I can't even ...
repeatedly smash head against desk
I'm a diabetic myself, and I struggle to find the words necessary to express exactly how stupid that is. Coke has sugar in it. Large amounts of sugar. And this is supposed to lower blood sugar how, exactly? Jesus fucking Christ, what a moron. [/rant]
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 23:35:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Tjodleik ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:56:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I can sort of understand the logic, but since the doc had a tester and OPs blood sugar was perfectly fine, it kind of bugs me anyway.
Edit: Missing words.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't get me wrong, the doc was completely 100% wrong. They should have known better. For a first aid situation he would have been right, but at his level of training wrong. I shouldn't post crap on Reddit when it is past my bed time.
The point i was trying to make is that the average person should not be afraid to give a person sugar in a diabetic crisis. It can save lives. I am guessing the doc fell back on that training because he had no clue.
dfn85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Ritalin is essentially meth and treats hyperactivity.
/exaggerated sarcasm
Seicair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Adderall*. Ritalin is a different chemical class, adderall's just a methyl group shy of meth.
abhikavi ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:19:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you call the guy who graduated lowest in med school? Doctor.
I had a doctor tell me that there were no risks with anesthesia. I asked her to clarify (what about... everything from chipped teeth to death) and she assured me that those were myths.
FredFnord ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:34:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The anesthesia thing is really interesting, actually. Thirty years ago, anesthesiologists had the highest rate of malpractice suits and caused a ridiculously outsized number of deaths and serious injuries. Malpractice insurance was ridiculously expensive, and it was becoming a serious problem.
So their trade organization did a bunch of research and figured out how to safely sedate and anesthetize people.
Now they have among the lowest rates of medical malpractice, and the risks are extremely minimal.
What's funny is, when the free market actually DOES work for the consumer, that's when the Republicans seem to want to step in (tort reform etc) to prevent it from working.
giantSIGHT ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 22:03:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's a doc in the box?
kneelmortals ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 22:11:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Urgent care clinic
flamedarkfire ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 22:38:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well first you get a box...
i_am_not_mike_fiore ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 22:54:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
put your doc in that box~
LevelSevenLaserLotus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you put that box in another box...
missb00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:26:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And then SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:11:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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tossy_mctosserson ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 00:39:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOu know PAs are full doctors, right? The only difference is that they must have their charts under the supervision of an MD.
They can do surgery, prescribe meds, even open offices on their own.
source: my niece just graduated PA school!
nikatnite8250 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:51:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not true at all.
Source: My husband is a physician.
tossy_mctosserson ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 00:54:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh...can you specifically tell me which part you disagree with?
'Cause my niece is doing most of them just 2 months after graduation at the cardiologist's office she now works at. The cardiologists are not even in the same physical location....
To open an office, they have to have a charting physician, but there are now "charting physician services" and PAs use them to legally open offices and work on their own.
nikatnite8250 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:08:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I simply don't agree with the fact that PAs are "full doctors" because they are not, they did not attend medical school. Completely different scales of education, in case you weren't aware. PA is a year of didactic and then one year of clinicals (1+1=2). MD is 2 didactic years, 2 clinical years, 3-4 years of residency, subsequent 3-5 years of fellowship to specialize, like a cardiologist for example (4+3+3= 7 minimum)
PAs cannot function or exist without physicians. :)
tossy_mctosserson ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 01:24:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1 + 1 is not true for PAs.
They did not take medical school. But this is a division perpetuated and supported by the AMA to keep medical care at a premium. They go to a school, after earning an undergraduate pre-med degree. The school teaches medicine, in both theoretical and clinical settings. There are frequent and grueling tests covering all systems of the body. They use the same textbooks at medical schools. They do clinical rotations, then go for a residency.
But yea...they're not medical schools.
PA is more like 2 years didactic + 1 year clinical + 1 year residency. (my niece just finished her 1 year residency in an underserved community in GA) Not talking about specialties so let's drop that off to pad the ol' resume.
As I explained in another response: I think MDs are helpful, but perpetuating the stereotype that PAs aren't "real doctors" in the meaningful (not titled, obviously) sense of the word is unhelpful. In most practices that are using them now, PAs are likely to be the ONLY person in direct contact with the patient...for years at a time.
DrVerdandi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:55:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The more common term for PAs & NPs is "advanced practice providers." You'll hear "mid-level provider" every so often too, but we (I'm an NP) don't like that one very much. It implies you'll get a lesser level of care from us, and even less from an RN, so meh.
I do have a question for you: is there a doctoral level degree for physician assistants? I am a nurse practitioner with a doctorate (a DNP), which makes me a "doctor," but not a physician, MD, or DO.
Miqotegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PAs can't write prescriptions for certain meds. They can recommend the plan of treatment to the doctor but a doctor will have to sign off on the meds (usually Schedule II meds, I believe) At my pain management doctor, I mainly see the PA unless the doc is bored or my pain isn't stable. But the doctor always signs off on the prescription.
PAs are great and I mostly see them these days, except at my new rheumatologist. She doesn't have one yet. My old rheumatologist had a great PA. I've only had one bad NP at my endo and we just couldn't see eye to eye on anything.
tossy_mctosserson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, from the DEA ( checked both AZ and CA, the 2 states where my niece has worked) For PAs- Drug Schedule: 2, 2N, 3, 3N, 4, 5 Action: Prescribe, Administer, Dispense & Procure
Miqotegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Florida is much more restrictive with schedule II, especially at pain management clinics.
tossy_mctosserson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Here's the table I used. Says they can do it in FL, but "in accordance with law" Like there's someplace that they're allowed to do it however they like?
Miqotegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it looks like there is a very complicated contract with a physician for five years and you have to pay a fee. So it's still under physician review. I know that the pain management clinic I visit doesn't provide that. Neither does my PCP. All Schedule II meds are signed off on by him.
tossy_mctosserson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. As I mentioned early on, there are now "charting physician services" that PAs can pay so they can operate on their own.
Not sure how many want/are doing that...but it's a real world thing.
We're talking a few different things. I was remarking about what was legal/possible. Different medical providers/organizations/networks can each have their own rules/practices that they like, as long as they're within the law.
For instance, my niece tells me that in many parts of the country, nurse practitioners are the rule and PAs are essentially unemployable. Inothers, the reverse is true.
So legal vs. practice vs. custom.
nikatnite8250 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just gave the example of the fellowship since cardiology was in the subject ;) I agree MDs are "helpful" :)
Mr_Psmith ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:09:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
False
Source: I have an M.D.
tossy_mctosserson ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should clarify. OP seemed to imply that a PA couldn't render "doctor" type care, but rather only give shots, etc like at a minute clinic.
But they can, and do and under very little supervision. Little supervision as in my wife and I have had PAs as our primary care physicians for dozens of years and never even seen or met the charting physician.
So...I get your perspective as a medical professional. But having people not trust a PA as a part of normal care isn't helpful.
Mr_Psmith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, no worries. I think the OP was expressing surprise that the story from an even more OP related that there was a physician working at the minute clinic, when in OPs experience that is almost never the case (instead, that they are staffed by PAs). Probably varies by region and by chain of clinic.
croccrazy98 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:57:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Step one: Cut a hole in a box.
jobblejosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of a jiffy lube for people.
HyerJohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those CVS (or other pharmacy) clinics in the back of the store
samkostka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My guess would be a walk-in clinic. For stuff less urgent than the ER, but still requires realatively quick attention.
RavNavi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming an urgent care or quick clinic. Those places usually have under qualified doctors running them.
Girlinhat ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:48:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not always under-qualified, just over-worked. It's usually like 1 doctor and 8 nurses, so the nurses run the gambit and the doctor comes by to say 'yep, it's a patient!'
RavNavi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can see that. I'm an EMT and work in an area with a lot of urgent cares. We've been called for silly things like "I THINK I have a UTI" and the doctor did not even perform the testing for it, just immediately called us to take them to the hospital. We've had doctors not able to read EKGs (they were fine) or just hear what the patient has to say instead of performing their own examination and taking their word for it.
gracefulwing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:01:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry for that, I have interstitial cystitis and sometimes it is hard to tell if I have a UTI or just a flare. I went to the urgent clinic one time thinking they could just do a test and call antibiotics in for me if necessary. Nope, made me take an ambulance to the real hospital. Fucking useless.
RavNavi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:04:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh never apologize for if a doctor calls and ambulance for you, you have no control over that. It's the doctors we get annoyed with, not the patients if it's not legit.
Girlinhat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay but who pays for it?
RavNavi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The patient pays for it.
Girlinhat ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why should I take a $1,200 taxi for a possible UTI?
RavNavi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.
Helassaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't.
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not always, but if they're any good, they probably work somewhere else
u38cg2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know the clinic thing in House? That.
Fudgeyreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"x" in a box just means someone went to a place that isn't the place they usually go to. For example, barber in a box...
Levi182 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:56:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a doctor tell me that I should probably consume a little lactose even though I'm lactose intolerant because it will slow down my digestive track and help my diarrhea.
Twitbookspacetube ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[ANGER INTENSIFIES]
akula457 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:35:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ANGERPOOPING INTENSIFIES]FTFY
DrVerdandi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:00:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Just" a nurse practitioner, but...probably don't do that? O_o Seriously what?!
loomynartyondrugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It will help your diarrhea cascade out of you like a fucking waterfall, so he's not wrong.
AtlantisSky ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:59:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to two separate doc in the boxes in two separate counties with pneumonia symptoms. Both told me that I had the flu, that ibwas too young and too healthy to get pneumonia (I had had it twice before mind you, and had lost aboit 7 pounds in 4 days), and one even told me that I had never had the flu before. I refused to leave the second guys office until he ordered me a chest a x ray. Turns out I was right. I had pneumonia. The hospital called me directly to tell me my results.
mugsoh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pneumonia can be caused by the flu, they are not mutually exclusive. You may have been right about the pneumonia, but that doesn't make them wrong about the flu.
AtlantisSky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:35:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't go to a doctor until about a week after I felt sick. Plus both the nasal swabs for the flu came back negative. Neither wanted to give me a chest a x ray because they said me having pneumonia was impossible. (Yes, they said impossible). It wasn't until I refused to leave at the second one that one was even ordered.
mugsoh ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:48:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The tests came back negative but they told you that you had the flu anyway? Something's not right about your story.
TrashPandaBros ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, this has happened to me at least five times. (Being told I had the flue when tests were neg. It's happened both when I had pneumonia and when I didn't.)
AtlantisSky ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:57:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its 100 percent true. I'm not lying. The second guy said some bullshit about the tests being only 60 percent accurate or some shit. Still told me I had the flu. Told him, I know what the flu is and it has never once lasted more than a few days. He turns back and says that I havent had the flu before then.
They refused to believe that a 26 year (this was 3 years ago) woman in scent health had pneumonia. That it was impossible. Thats why I wanted the chest x ray. To prove that I was right.
And they were PA s too so not sure if that changes anything. The first one only swabbed one nostril the second guy did both. Both came back negative. Still refused to believe me when I told them I didnt have the flu.
Because apparently I don't know the differnece, despite ending up in the hospital when I was 6 with pneumonia (but that time it had been diagnosed as a cold bya nurse).
Finie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The majority of the flu tests given at doctors offices are 60% sensitive at best during flu season, which means it'll miss 4 out of 10 positive results, even with a good sample. Those tests have to be followed up by culture (or PCR) for a true negative diagnosis. There are now rapid PCR tests that are >99% sensitive but they aren't widely used yet.
"Flu" is also a catchall term for several respiratory viruses. Typically, the lower respiratory viruses (Influenza, RSV, MPV, Adenovirus, Parainfluenza, and Enterovirus) cause illness lasting a minimum of 2 weeks to 2 months. Coronaviruses and Rhinoviruses usually last 1 week, with just a few days of misery.
AtlantisSky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still doesn't change the fact that I did not have the flu. I had bacterial pneumonia. Which in this case they were telling me was impossible that I could have.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:23 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is kind of funny to me because one of my cousins is a really healthy, outdoorsy type guy, loves to go hiking in the mountains and stuff, has a physical job, works out, plays sports in his free time, basically is just a really healthy dude. except that he seems to be really prone to pneumonia. the last time i heard he had it, he had viral pneumonia which he said was the worst because he just had to ride it out. i don't understand doctors being so unwilling to trust a patient, especially if the patient, like you, has a history of what they're saying they have?? like come on, it's not like you get a high from a chest x-ray and possible antibiotics
AtlantisSky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:07 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I won't even go to the doctor when I have a cold (because its a virus what are they foinf to do), or the flu. Like why would you deny me a chest x ray? I hope they realize I had ended up in the hospital I woild have sued the both of them for my medical bills.
TrashPandaBros ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's happened to me a few times, too. I've had two specialists tell me that a lot of GPs and ER docs just call anything that has flu symptoms and is reasonably believed to be viral the flu.
Eg. I went in for severe, full body pain, had vomiting (from pain), high fever... Got tons of tests done, including a spinal tap. Everything came back clean (including flu test), was told it was the flu.
AtlantisSky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The entire time I'm thinking (as best I could with a 103 temp), "do you really think I'm going to come in requesting a chest x ray for the damned flu? If it was the flu I wouldnt have come to see a doctor."
TrashPandaBros ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was incoherent from pain until I was on IV pain killers of some sort, at which point I was screaming in agony until I threw up and then writhing and moaning, at which point I was told to cut the hysterics because my heart would stop if I got any more pain killers.
Blah blah, battery of tests, 100+ fever, spinal tap (worst test), definitely not meningitis. Sent home with opiates and a slap on the ass saying "It's just the flu, but now you need pills because of the spinal tap that you didn't ask for and didn't even present the symptoms for needing."
Twitbookspacetube ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:40:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Drink coke to regulate blood sugar levels...
I'm sorry, does their coke contain insulin or something? What the actual?
wilusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
people drink coke to raise their levels when their meds drop their sugar too low (low sugar can be way worse than high sugar) because coke is liquid and concentrated sugar so it acts quickly. I once had my sugar drop below 60. i drank a can of coke and 15 mins later i felt fine. But at 150, i shouldn't be anywhere near a coke.
Twitbookspacetube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing with that is it's not an all in one solution. You need to promptly follow it up with carbohydrate to prevent a secondary hypo - otherwise the coke will send your sugars up then crashing back down again.
wilusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah its not a great solution for sure but is sometimes the only option you have. its a shitty life for sure.
Solcaerev ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:25:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question: where do you live? Whenever I see people talking about their sugar levels online they're always using much higher numbers than the people I see IRL.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:04:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US the units are different, so a good fasting sugar would be something like 88, and a normal after-meal sugar might be 114. I understand that in other countries you're looking at a one-digit number usually.
CapWasRight ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:27:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US it's usually expressed as mg/dL, but a lot of other places use mmol/L. Assuming I'm remembering my intro chemistry and can do math today, the difference between these is a factor of 18.
pink-pink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:41:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Glucose.php
vaginasinparis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:19:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. 4-8 are our "good" numbers.
Twitbookspacetube ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:04:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to http://www.diabeteschart.org/mgmmol.html - the OP's 150 mg/dl reading corresponds to 8.3 mmol/l
The US uses a different system to the rest of the world for measuring blood sugar levels - just like everything else
sandm000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:31:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We finally start to use metric and now everybody's bitching about how we're using the metric system incorrectly.
CHlMlCHANGAS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Went to an urgent care clinic last year for the first and only time. I had gone to a concert 2 days before, it was absurdly hot and I got dehydrated. I couldn't rehydrate myself and didn't want to pay the ED co-pay so I went to the UCC. Doctor missed my vein several times while lecturing me on the consequences of using drugs at concerts. I didn't use any drugs. He refused to listen because "everyone who comes in dehydrated after a concert did drugs."
queenalby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never trust those guys - I once went to a doc in the box for suspected bronchitis. Guy looked in my throat and said "Your tonsils look fine," to which I replied, "That's good, since I had them taken out when I was seven." :/
UrethraX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Question, the fuck is a doc in a box?
aguafiestas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, I think is see the misunderstanding here.
When he said you should use "coke" to regulate your blood sugar, he meant cocaine.
MisaMisa21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might have worked. Have you seen Doc Hollywood?
wilusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HA yes i have. but i wasn't constipated so i wasn't going to risk it. That is funny though i didn't think of that movie at the time.
borygoya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Brown does wonders to your sugar levels
TheLurkingMenace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Doc in the box?"
fetchdoggy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Internists know surprisingly little about diabetes
StabbyPants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
heh, i went to one of those to get antibiotics; told the doc i was allergic to anything remotely resembling penicillin, so he prescribed amoxycillin
Jmanorama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:34:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.....what's a doc in a box? Is that like a quick care place?
Sgxdarklighter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What on earth is a doc in a box?
Jake0024 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf is a doc in the box?
hubife13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is a doc...in the box?
wilusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
urgent care
TastyFace ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:16:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope someone called the licensing board...
SillyFlyGuy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:33:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So many questions..
"doc in the box" is what?
"for some reason and he doesn't know why" Was this an actual doctor or a patient who stole a lab coat?
"drink a coke" ? There was a scene from that Michael J Fox movie where he was a fill-in doctor in a small town, and wanted to operate on some patient. The regular doctor phoned in and told him all his patient needed was a Coke. Turns out that's what the patient needed (I don't remember why). Was the doctor making a joke reference?
JustVan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:18:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When you're diabetic, two things can happen. One, your blood sugar can be too low. The other is that your blood sugar can be too high. When it's too high, you need insulin to lower it. When it's too low, you need sugar to raise it. The doctor clearly didn't know enough about diabetes to really understand the difference. The patient had a high-but-normal level of sugar, and the doctor wanted him to have a Coke to lower the sugar, but the Coke thing is only meant to be used when the blood sugar is low.
Though generally you should use medicine instead of Coke, and according to some other replies in this thread having a too-high blood sugar is better than a too-low blood sugar, so if in doubt whether a patient is too low or too high, giving extra sugar is the better choice.. But the doctor knew it was 150 which was within normal, so nothing should've been done.
gino188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wtf is a doc in a box??? Never heard of this.
Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Your blood sugar is too high. I recommend a massive intake of sugar." I'm shocked that this makes sense to anyone, let alone a doctor...
wilusa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:06 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What really bothered me later is i told several people at work this story and about half the people knew this as a normal thing to do. Even co-workers that are diabetic. I pleaded with them not to drink coke when their sugar is high but people just don't change their minds. Like it's what my daddy told me so it must be true kind of thing. And yes, i live in the south.
SarcasticRN ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 01:04:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm not a doctor but I'm a postpartum nurse. Let's see, that pee comes out a difference hole than the baby does. We don't allow female circumcision in our hospitals and male circumcision ISN'T mandatory. That newborns can't be potty trained.
CatsAreDivine ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm curious as to how they thought infant potty training would work ๐
malonkey1 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you see, you keep them wrapped in a disposable "paper potty," known in technical circles as a "diaper."
merouch ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:08:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you guys just take the baby from people asking for female circumcision? I just can't.
CoffeeAndCigars ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:39:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not the ones asking for male genital mutilation?
merouch ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:32:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you can't see the difference, I don't really have words for you. Not saying I agree with either but acting like there is no difference is kind of ludicrous.
ColdHungryandAlone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:54 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are several types of FGM, some resemble foreskin amputation more closely. Also, it is a permanent, irreversible and cosmetic surgery performed on a newborn. And to top it off, it hurts like hell.
CoffeeAndCigars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:26 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course there are differences, but that doesn't make one more acceptable than the other. Both are irreversible and unnecessary surgery performed without any sort of informed consent. In other words, unacceptable.
merouch ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:00:02 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love that you make it seem like the differences are extremely casual and not that bad. For anyone interested, here's a nice list of differences.
Also, I've had friends who's sons have had to get circumcised due to issues with the foreskin later in their childhood. Women will never require a circumcision. Please imagine a giant eye roll from me here.
CoffeeAndCigars ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:10:47 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you equate actual medical issues occurring later in life with completely unnecessary and irreversible surgery performed without informed consent?
Of course there are differences and female genital mutilation is obviously even worse, but that doesn't in any shape way or form make male genital mutilation acceptable.
It's rather telling that people are going "Well it's not that bad!" about genital mutilation as long as it's a guy getting the knife.
merouch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:07:54 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The people I've known that have had to get their children circumcised for medical reasons have still had children at an age that they cannot consent.
CoffeeAndCigars ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:34:23 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "for medical reasons" should probably be the bit to focus on there. That sort of negates the whole unnecessary and irreversible surgery bit, don't you think?
Why is this so acceptable when the same people would have a fit the moment someone got the bright idea to have their toddler receive unnecessary cosmetic plastic surgery?
Seicair ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read that infants can be potty-trained before. It does involve watching them closely to recognize the signs that they need to go, considering they can't walk or even crawl yet, but apparently there are people that don't use diapers except at night if at all.
luqi_charmz ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 02:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother-in-law's doctor has had to tell her multiple times that Dr. Oz is not her doctor and to stop doing everything he says. She still believes that Dr. Oz is more qualified than her actual doctor to manage her diabetes.
Metalbass5 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:55:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in an organic grocery store. We sold a lot of vitamin supplements and whatnot as well. A lot of it was crap, but most of it was just the usual multivitamins and whatnot, but without gelatin, or other additives for shelf life or taste.
We had people come in constantly, telling us that they needed some random fucking extract, because oz said it was going to cure their cancer. EVERY FUCKING TIME "DR." OZ SHOWED UP ON TV, FOR DAYS AFTERWARD.
I must have explained to over 100 customers that goji berries are just a novelty snack. No extra antioxidants (no more than any other fruit really), no "amazing" benefits, and certainly NO FUCKING CANCER FIGHTING ABILITY.
Blows my mind that people don't understand that oz is out to make money, and he can't diagnose you from the set of Oprah while you read up on the dangers of vaccination. (That's another story.)
satansfloorbuffer ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:30:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In my organic market days, I often found myself shooting an email to the buyers' office to ask if they really meant to buy 11 flats of some shit or had just pressed '1' twice.
Half the time the email just came back saying 'Dr. Oz.'
Metalbass5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:26:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god I know right? I remember receiving massive skids of that reishi mushroom supplement he plugged. I was worried about having room for it until my manager walked by and said "Oz plugged it last week."
We all just rolled our eyes and shoved it into the corner. It was gone in 2 days.
satansfloorbuffer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We were a smaller outfit and only got three UNFI shipments a week, so we had a constant problem of not being able to get that shit in the second he plugged it, so people had already hit up the Whole Foods by the time ours arrived. Lots of waste mouldering in the corners because of that man.
Metalbass5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No shit eh? All that garbage because people can't wait for the next miracle pill.
Play_on_Words_ ยท 238 points ยท Posted at 00:27:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work on a medical helpline in the UK, I have a number of these. 1, an ambulance isn't a taxi service to take your lazy ass to a hospital appointment, you need to get there yourself. 2, you will not have caught Ebola from touching the black taxi drivers hand when he gave you your change 3, you can get pregnant even if he pulls out, he is 50 and you are 25 you should both know this 4, putting a deodorant can up your arse is never going to end well, off to A&E you go
These are just some of the ones I can think of right now
notathr0waway1 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The deodorant up the ass was unexpected ..
valiantfreak ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:17:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How else are you going to get the FULL Lynx effect?
myne ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm movin to the country, gonna spray me a lot of bitches...
...Ph'remones come from a can, they were put there by a man in a factory down town...
Play_on_Words_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:55:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was for me on the phone, it was the second time it has happened to the man who called up though. Had a few calls come through about vibrators being stuck up there but I can understand how that would happen more
malonkey1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:12:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do some people think black people carry ebola? Like, not even just Africans specifically, which is still a stupid and bugfuck racist assumption, but almost understandable in its stupidity, but black people in general?
The darkness of their skin is not a thin layer of ebola-laced feces, people, it's melanin!
Play_on_Words_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:51:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was an elderly lady, no excuse for being racist but I think she was uneducated about the virus and presumably thought anybody black would have it
norsish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, I'm gonna need a citation or reference of some kind to support your statement. Melanin you say? Maybe it's just better to be safe than sorry. I mean, this melanin thing could be right, but they must look different for a reason. Could be a dangerous reason and my neighbor down the street says that shit comes form Africa, so...
EDIT: I appreciate your use of the word "bugfuck".
EDIT again: ANd I just realized you added feces to my list of fears that already included ebola and black people. Which means I should proabably be afraid of melanin, too.
PM_ME_FIT_REDHEADS ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:52:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw this before in another thread. In the UK there are taxis that are black and referred to as black taxis. It's not about skin color so much as skin contact with someone that has a lot of exposure to the public.
Jamessuperfun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:07:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, 111... I feel like you may get the dumbest of the questions because its the sort of 'least time taken'/first point of contact service. I've sometimes felt a little silly explaining my problem there, but then I remember there's probably far worse and I wouldn't have been sent to A&E of I was actually being silly.
Play_on_Words_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:54:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes we do get the dumbest of the dumb, it angers me that people cannot cope with a cough and a cold. I've had people not be happy to wait so said they will go to A&E, one person was because of a paper cut and they actually went to A&E. People complain about the NHS but it's the people who abuse it like this that have ruined it
Jamessuperfun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a medical professional, but if you're an idiot and have a cold, I'd be much happier they phone 111 and spend 5 minutes of someone's time to find out its ok than go to A&E or something haha
Play_on_Words_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they just wanted to know it would be okay that would be fine, but they ring up acting like they are on their last legs, exaggerate everything, demand antibiotics that won't work for a viral infection then get all arsey when you give them advice to cope at home and not a drs appointment at the out of hours drs because their own Dr would refuse to see something so menial as an emergency and they would have to wait a week or longer for said appointment with their own gp.
TheIInChef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:22 on February 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I called 111 the other day and they straight up sent me an ambulance after hearing my symptoms even though my friend could have driven me quicker, if you don't hear the call I wouldn't just assume it's just entitled folk who want an ambulance ride
Przedrzag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You from NZ?
Jamessuperfun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
UK just like the other commenter
LifeOfTheUnparty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why can't people shit out the things that got stuck in their ass?
DelayneyS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like the kid who sticks their head between stair rails- sometimes going in is super easy and getting out is much more complicated.
Play_on_Words_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like a vacuum, sucks it up and the sphincter closes and the deodorant can twisted so couldn't get it out, was the second time for this person aswell
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not like a vacuum. It is a vacuum. (Physical vacuum, not vacuum cleaner.) Sorry, I've devolved into the pedantic. I should probably get off reddit, now, but I don't have enough sense.
lolabythebay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:11:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once sat in a bus station in the southern U.S. with a kind but obviously developmentally disabled man who was waiting for an ambulance to bring him to the hospital, because the TV got good channels there.
Play_on_Words_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is hilarious but sad at the same time. Somewhere along the line people like this have been let down by people who should have been supporting and helping them
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:21:50 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you in 111? In which case, please stop telling me to go to the ER every time I call. I'm trying to avoid that
Play_on_Words_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:10 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I am with 111. It's pathways based so from the answers you give it ways up clinically what the best care for you would be, if you feel it has been too cautious with your assessment then you can refuse what you are told and speak to one of the nurses or paramedics who can assess you in more clinical detail to get you better care? Hope this helps at all
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:45:09 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh we just have a joke and I politely decline. I know enough about my condition that 99% of the time I just want to know if I should go bother the GP the next day.
Last time I was hopped up on codiene when my shoulder subluxated so bad I was crying but it was wait it out or spend 4 hours in the ER, where all it would do is keep hurting, to get even more drugs and screw that noise.
Y'all do great work though and thank you for being good sports about everything.
Play_on_Words_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:57:56 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like one of the people who actually need the service! It's a pleasure to help people who need it, not people who can't think for themselves and demand help they don't need.
eccentrish ยท 323 points ยท Posted at 23:31:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My professor who's a doctor told us a story of how she was too shy to explain to a patient how to take vaginal suppository. She told the nurse to give the patient the instructions. A week after, the patient came back asking why the vaginal suppository tasted like that. Apparently the patient took the vaginal suppository orally because the nurse was also too shy to tell the patient that it has to be inserted in the vagina. Taboo is extreme in our country.
Jerico_Hill ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 02:44:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like if you're too shy to explain that to a patient then you've no business being a doctor.
ParacelsusTBvH ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:22:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God forbid you have testicular or cervical cancer.
norsish ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:23:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck it, just let 'em die. It's too embarrassing to talk about.
TheSoulOfTheRose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:43 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely! How ridiculous. How the fuck do they do any kind of routine GYN procedures, like pap smears?
marieelaine03 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 00:43:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God damn,I had to take pills vaginally for IVF and it wasn't a big deal.
I would have been pissed if my nurses were too "shy" to tell me!
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:34:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shouldve told her JUST SHOVE IT UP YER HOLE AND GO ON WITH YOUR DAY
With-a-Cactus ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:05:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, one of my seven orifices hurt.
cormacredfield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, I just counted the holes. What is wrong with me?
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yer either missing some or got some extra?
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:44:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a patient came in complaining her pills for her constipation were so big she had to bite them on half, and wanted to know if we could prescribe her something smaller.
She was eating her suppositories. She didn't know what suppository meant and thought it was the name of a type of medication like Tylenol or motrin.
Her face when it was explained.... the horror.
crazymcninja ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:08:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$10 says this is Japan. $10 also says that your professor and the nurse should be fired if they can't provide correct medical advice to patients.
AbsentThatDay ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I should travel the world telling women where to put it. Think of the millions I could save.
norsish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could even do the first one for them to be sure they understand. Charity at it's finest.
Seicair ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:37:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually a word specifically for that, pessary.
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
mattstreet ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:39:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is not proper medical treatment at all.
Ap0Th3 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:19:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What backwards medieval country though?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:51:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Brutal_Lobster ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:27:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt that. I could be wrong, but I really doubt that.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You hope you're not wrong, but...?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:17:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, that may explain why their birth rate is so stubbornly high. As in, so high, the Pope gently suggested they try to be less like rabbits. (His words, not mine.)
Kodix ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:06:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The country eccentrish is talking about is Phillipines. It's a bit unsurprising, pretty much every interaction I've had with someone from there has been bizzare in one aspect or another.
(I stalked like 4 posts down within their post history.)
iznotiz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:16:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So extreme that the doctors don't doctor. Useful.
Spazmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:32 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandma did this. She had a yeast infection and I guess either my mom or the pharmacist assumed she knew/would read the instructions.
TheSoulOfTheRose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:58 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do women have pap smears in your country? Or breast exams?
alte3 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 03:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a physical therapist who was on a clinical rotation in a hospital on the ortho floor. There was a patient who left the hospital following a total hip replacement and dislocated the hip in a fall at home. She was brought back to the hospital and I saw her in her room to walk her around the floor. She was convinced she was kidnapped from her home and brought to a fake hospital where she was being held hostage. I had to sit there for a half hour and try to convince her of what actually happened, and that she was in a real hospital with real people that weren't all actors. She had some really good points though, made me really question my reality.
winchesterbros ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:04:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What were her good points?
alte3 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:36:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I asked her why she thought we were all actors. She responded by saying the entire staff had predictable actions, predictable responses, predictable cyclic routines. Nobody would stop to talk to her for more than five minutes, and she wasn't allowed to get up from her chair by herself. Which, if you were confused, I'd understand why you'd think you were being held hostage and we were actors, although, it sais more about the state of our hospitals than anything.
Then the kicker. She told me that I might be being held hostage too and that we were the only two real people. I was forced to come in day in and day out and adhere to a busy routine, treating actors just to keep me occupied. I asked what I was being occupied from finding out. She responded with, "The Truth".
nemo_sum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:32:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We need to know if this is all a sham.
DeadDollKitty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't there a brain malfunction that a person will think that every person in their life has been replaced with an identical evil copy?
imperfect5outof7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes there is.
Brassens71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Capgras Delusion, IIRC.
molly__hatchet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like an episode of Black Mirror.
Crysanthia ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 04:18:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse practitioner here. I had to explain to parents they needed to feed their baby. The baby was in our NICU for low sugars, and the Mom wouldn't let us give formula, or start an IV and wouldn't come to breast feed. I explained how low blood sugars can lead to brain damage, and that didn't phase them.. they wouldn't come or consent to anything. I then launched into how they were putting their child at risk and my next call was to child protective services.
They came and fed the baby.
TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:27:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is horrifying
rigsta ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you still made that next call :|
Crysanthia ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:22:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't. After birth people can get a little stupid..they're tired, exhausted, and have been put through this incredibly stressful situation and then a lot of people get caught up on their birth plan and try to regain some control. It's always this when there's difficulties with feeding babies after birth.. and so it takes a good amount of patience to allow people to come to terms that it's not going the way things had intended.
This case was over and above, but we eventually got through to them. They turned out to be lovely and caring.
guacamoleo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:01:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I still don't get how "don't feed the baby at any cost" could be part of their "birth plan".
Crysanthia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:36:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was breastfeeding at any cost, complicated by the baby's being admitted to the NICU, so the parents couldn't see the baby hungry, and all they felt was tired so wouldn't come. Still dumb and then they became obstructive when we kept at them.
rigsta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, well that's better than my "solution" :) GJ
molly__hatchet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:51:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really should have to take some kind of sanity test before you're allowed to have kids.
Metalbass5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:05:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was either of the parents, perchance, insanely thin? Like anorexia thin?
Phytomancer ยท 224 points ยท Posted at 00:25:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I was driving for a Chinese family in the middle of July in California. Their kids got carsick and started throwing up everywhere. They put jackets on the kids and asked me to roll up the windows and turn the air conditioner off (I refused, and made them choose either windows open or AC full blast), because they were 100% convinced that being cold causes stomach problems. It was like 103 degrees outside. I couldn't convince them that no, cold temperatures do not in fact cause nausea but overheating does. They only listened after we had a tire blow out, and while we were pulled over a trooper told us to get in the vehicle, crank up the AC and take the kids' jackets off because the heat is dangerous. The mom is one of the smartest people I know otherwise. She's a professor, and is really quick and sharp at understanding concepts that are way above my head in our field.
HansumJack ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 02:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read it all then looked back at the top and saw Chinese again. Apparently their culture is very hot/cold yin/yang focused. You just can't shake it out of them. If you have a very yang personality you shouldn't eat hot foods because it'll make your personality quirks worse. Yin people should equally avoid cold foods. Even well educated people can find the notion hard to drop.
Phytomancer ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:07:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, this is exactly it.
ronin1066 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:26:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a world-renowned climate scientist from Korea tell me that tea is a "hot" drink (as in yin/yang kind of hot) and should never be drunk cold or it's bad for you. I asked him what in the tea made it a hot drink and he had no idea. I asked him what in any food made it a hot or cold food and again, no idea. I found it quaint that he perpetuated such a non-scientific idea.
Vacuous_hole ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:17:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had many asian children brought into the ED with a raging temperature and about 5 layers on! Ever heard of febrile convulsions mum? I know its a cultural thing, but come on. Your child has a temp of 40C, it's 36C outside and they have a parka on over 3 jumpers!
rigred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:09:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Artificial selection of a sort? ;-)
nibycolispdsl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:36:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends and I actually were talking today about how many professors are academically geniuses. They can be top in their field but somehow not have even the slightest bit of common sense. I go to a top rated university (not to brag, I could care less about the rating, but basically all the professors are genius), some of these professors write textbooks and do groundbreaking research. However, it's more often then not that they are completely lost in situations that need common sense. It's weird to me but have seen it way too much.
houstains ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:37:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you have the windows rolled down and the ac going?
Phytomancer ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:57:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The AC was on and windows up at first. I cracked the back windows then the kids threw up, because wind blowing in my face helps me when I am carsick. Then they asked me to turn it off and roll it up. I figured my story was long enough and y'all didn't need to hear every detail, or else I'd need a tl;dr
LongoSpeaksTruth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
Przedrzag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:44:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While an actual belief, it's only prevalent in South Korea, not among Chinese people.
Shamus_Aran ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:24:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's basically made up to cover suicides.
Przedrzag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't be surprised given the high rate over there
rightnowl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But not really, though. IMO it's more about the government building shitty power plants that can't handle the load of a fan and an aircon unit in each apartment (so many apartments), so they spread the rumor of fan death to avoid talking about the power outages that leave older or weaker people without any air-conditioning in the blistering hot summer (death by heat exhaustion) and to scare people into reducing the load on the shitty power plants (by not running fans).
Even if I'm wrong about this, it's not to cover up ceiling fan suicides, because ceiling fans are almost non-existent in Korea. Occasionally, I see some in restaurants, but even those are extremely rare.
clueing4looks ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC, the suicides don't refer to hanging from ceiling fans, but are more commonly from carbon monoxide poisoning via charcoal / heating mini stove.
So when the authorities investigate a death in a closed room that has a burning charcoal stove & table fan, they can help the family of the deceased 'save face' by blaming it on fan death rather than declare it suicide.
rightnowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This kind of makes sense, but at the same time, if they're covering up a lot of the suicides this way, wouldn't the suicide rates be artificially low? Everyone knows about the high suicide rate in Korea. It's a talking point for that country.
save_the_last_dance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the scary thing. This might BE the artificially low number
notapantsday ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 00:44:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That a vegan diet is not a substitute for dialysis.
Had a patient come into the hospital, pale as a ghost, in a wheelchair, looking 40 years older than he was. I can't remember what was wrong with his kidneys, but two years before, his nephrologist had told him that it was time to start dialysis. He was upset about this, so he went to another nephrologist who told him the same. So he decided to stop seeing doctors altogether and went on a vegan diet instead. That wheelchair? Oh yeah, he bought it half a year ago when he couldn't walk anymore for some reason.
I wish I had taken a picture of his lab results. The only one I can still remember is Creatinine, which was above 5000 ยตmol/l. Potassium was somewhere in the "certain death" range, hemoglobin ridiculously low. He was taken to the ICU and finally got his dialysis, but his body was pretty damaged at this point. Don't know what became of him (it was during my training and I left soon after), but he didn't look like he could ever recover.
DukeMaximum ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:14:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm relying on wisdom from ancient times."
"You mean when thirty was middle aged and barbers were also surgeons? Let me know how that goes for you."
MissTypaTypa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus that's idiotic. I mean eat vegan if you'd like but that's not going to cure any organ failure!
guacamoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it reverses lifestyle-related heart disease, but no it's not magic.
awolfscourage ยท 266 points ยท Posted at 00:12:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After reading so many of these stories, it's amazing how many of these revolve around misconceptions about sex.
[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 02:17:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, abstinence only education!
HansumJack ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:18:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Conservative religious folk who think it's taboo to talk about sex raise conservative religious children who are never taught about sex and subsequently grow up to be relatively normal looking adults who are completely clueless about sex.
crazymcninja ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:57:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sex education in the United States, especially in rural or religious.conservative areas, is absolute trash. There are 10 minute youtube videos that teacher better sex ed than what is required in most states.
Thebossjarhead ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:27:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are the schools not funded enough to have a good sex ed class? Thanks
ObamaTrump?ReecesPieces213 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go to a Christian private school in the southern US. Th school are certainly not lacking the funds, but we still have exactly 0 sex ed at our school, leaving me to learn everything from you fine people on the interwebs.
divajedi ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:51:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plus your parents can tell the school to pull you from sex ed classes if they're offered.
sonicFU ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:53:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's thanks Bush actually. Schools lost federal finding if they did not teach approved abstinence only Sex Ed. Not surprisingly teenage pregnancy went up along with STD and clueless adults.
ccm596 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? I forgot the question wasn't just about sex misconceptions
lilac_blaire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:54:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: America is doing worse than most third world countries as far as sex education goes
ArsenoPyrite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's also a popular fake story to apply to groups you think are wrongheaded. It used to be the Chinese primarily.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to assume there are entire communities that are pig-ignorant about sex. I mean, I literally don't remember a time when I didn't know what sex was, and that's likely because I had older brothers and I was sort of the mascot of the group when I was little. Older kids talked about "dirty things" and I was around to hear it.
SquidCap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is in the big three in these threads: Sex, sugar and gangrene, latter usually a directly related to the first two. Diabetes is high on these lists as is the hobos/homeless/redneck "oh, i do have this thing" and toes are dropping from the shoe.. A lot of poverty, poor education and human stubbornness.
Also, after reading these, i feel like i am monitoring my health really well.. and it makes me feel grateful having free healthcare and education that prevents two of the major three (we have stupid here as well, just that the stupidity is inexcusable and thus, socially shunned.... if you have poor education you can always blame that instead of people just being fucking lazy when it comes to learning.)
molly__hatchet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so very glad I've never had sex with anyone who had these misconceptions.
fardok ยท 645 points ยท Posted at 23:51:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im an ER doc and see this far too often with young and middle aged people with minor aches
Patient : I have some insert pain in random joint/limb/back since yesterday.
Me: Did you take any thing for the pain
Patient: no I didn't
Me: why
Heres where I get multiple equally stupid answers from people
A : I wanted to see a doctor first (why??????? These people have mild pain and are willing to wait for hours for no reason)
B: I don't know what to take (how does anyone from the age of 15 onwards not know about Tylenol/advil/generic OTC pain meds is beyond me )
C: I don't like taking pills (the fuck do you think I'm going to do, lay hands and make it better I'm not a fucking paladin!!!
SkillBranch ยท 278 points ยท Posted at 00:28:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now I have the mental image of a doctor just casting Healing Hands in the middle of a checkup.
blue-eyed-badger ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:35:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cure light wounds
redstern ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:40:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient resisted Healing Hands
otusowl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient cited Jenny McCarthy, noting that Healing Hands can cause autism.
BigAggie06 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:34:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor moved casting interrupted
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a lot of respect for the Restoration school. Skyrim could use more healers.
Cursor_Silvae ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:11:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what the d20 dice on the desk is for...
lumirgaidin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear. Cast magic missile instead.
houstains ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:22:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"the fuck do you think I'm going to do, lay hands and make it better I'm not a fucking paladin!!!"
This is my favorite response ever.
have_some_composure ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:56:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
18 here. Know all about the existence of pain meds, just never which ones to take for the different kinds of pain. I really don't know the difference (if there is one) when it comes to naproxen sodium/acetaminophen/ibuprofen.
Runcowskinky ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:24:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On mobile so sorry for messy links. 21 here and deal with pain related to scoliosis, tendinitis, menstrual cramps, and the occasional headache. I can tell you that naproxen sodium does diddly squat for me, but ibuprofen is my lord and savior.
You milage will vary.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/ibuprofen-vs-acetaminophen-when-should-you-use-one-over-other-367742
have_some_composure ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:43:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!! My mom's a nurse, but every time she explains meds to me she talks more about the side effects than what you actually take them for. I've got the cramps (although they're better with my birth control) and headaches too, and I ache a lot because I get hurt by pulling muscles/sleeping weird/falling everywhere all the time.
Runcowskinky ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:06:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For muscle pain/cramps I recommend ibuprofen, but try out acetaminophen if it doesn't work. Just make you don't double up/go over the dose. If the pain is long lasting, you can try alternating ibuprofen and acetaminophen. You never want to take these guys on an empty stomach, and besides I've found that munching on some crackers at the same time makes the pain go away faster. Bonus because you satisfy the salt cravings too! Oh, and whenever you take a pill make sure you drink the whole glass of water. Don't need dehydration headaches as well!
have_some_composure ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:19:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Salt makes my cramps a lot worse, so I'll stick to some other stuff. I drink a lot of flavored and sparkling water, so it helps a little too.
I just hate how much school it's made me miss. Our school has been weird with the rules on giving out medicine, and they obviously flip out if you bring it and take it on your own, so the pain usually just sends me home. I'd take stuff on the day it was going to happen, but it's always give or take a few days, and I don't want to take meds for no reason for that long. Thanks for the advice, though. I've been dealing with this since fourth grade, and stuff is just now getting a little bit better.
ziburinis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i once missed 66 days of school one year because I got pneumonia on top of missing nearly a week every month from cramps, they were that bad. I wasn't able to do college without narcotics for them.
have_some_composure ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow, since I haven't gotten a cold yet, I've only missed 11.5 days this year. But since I usually leave school about halfway through when I feel bad, some of my teachers at the end of the day like to act like they never see me.
Calander ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:16:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The pill can actually help tremendously on cramps and severity of period. Some may even completely stop menstruating, depending on the type. Sadly, many places it's got a bad rep of "being something you take because you want to have promiscuous sex".
have_some_composure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god, I know. Thankfully, it's pretty obvious that I'm not taking them for that. They've worked really well for me, with only a couple side effects. I'm just way too worried about taking one later than I normally do, since I got really sick from having two pills less than twelve hours apart.
theonewhogroks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has this been a problem for you? I find that drinking when thirsty is enough to not get dehydrated.
Runcowskinky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately I tend to drink caffinated beverages when I'm thirsty. I'm a fiend for coffee, tea, soda, and alcohol (finally 21 woooo!!!). Also I forget to bring water bottles to class so I'm stuck at school all day with only the wee drinking fountain. There was a while where I didn't drink any straight water at all! That is very unhealthy and I'm wondering how much more comfortable I would be if I drank the recommended 64 ounces.
theonewhogroks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The recommended 64 ounces refers to total H2O intake. You can actually get most of this through the food you eat, so you do not really need 64 ounces in glasses of water. Also, how much water you need depends on several factors, such as you weight, ambient temperature, and level of physical activity. Drinking caffeinated beverages and alcohol as you mention also increases the amount of water you need.
OneRedSent ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:43:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also different people react differently. The meds are cheap, so try them at different times and see what works best for you.
have_some_composure ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:46:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pain meds take a while to kick in for me. My best bet if I'm feeling bad is to just take a nap for a bit. I'm not proud of how many naps I take.
OneRedSent ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:49:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For me, acetaminophen or aspirin takes about 15 minutes ... naproxen takes a good hour to take effect, but then it works better and lasts longer ... and ibuprofen pretty much does nothing. But you know, everyone is different.
have_some_composure ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the naproxen works best for me, but having to wait so long really sucks.
OneRedSent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely. If it's really bad, I take the acetaminophen for quick relief, then the naproxen a little later.
have_some_composure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:02:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In gym they're making us go to the cycle studio for the first time this year. I'm going to need all the med knowledge I can get.
udenizc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naproxen / Ibuprofen (NSAIDs) for pain and swelling. Acetaminophen (Not really an NSAID but kind of) for pain.
have_some_composure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!
Jamessuperfun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna type the same sort of comment. I recently turned 19, no idea. If I'm seriously ill/ill for more than a few days I'll go to my local doctor, why you'd go to Accident & Emergency is beyond me.
have_some_composure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. I've only gone to the emergency room for doing stupid stuff as a kid (swallowing oxi-clean on accident, fingers in the car door, etc.). Thankfully I haven't broken anything yet, just bruised the hell out of myself. But yeah, the ER/A&E for an ache when you move your arm is pretty stupid.
sorator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's for when you can't wait to get in to see a doctor; you have an issue that needs to be taken care of now.
Or if you know you can't afford a doctor, then you can go the emergency room and they have to take care of you whether or not you can pay, but that's a whole other can of worms.
curvyirishcailin ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 01:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if I don't have an obvious reason for a pain I sometimes don't take anything so that I have an accurate read on whether the pain is getting worse or not. That way I know whether to seek medical attention
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 02:45:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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fardok ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're never going to mask a surgical abdomen with just Tylenol or advil.
stickler_Meseeks ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:52:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On the flip side of this, docs really need to stop discounting young people saying they have aches and pains. Went to the doc for a pain in my neck that I'd had for about 6 weeks. I knew how this was going to play out and didn't want to go. But I did. If I turned my head to far/too quickly pain would shoot down my neck and back and my knees would start to buckle. Was told it was "muscle soreness". No the fuck it wasn't. As someone who has held manual labor jobs and lifted weights on and off (regularly having DOMS) this wasn't muscle soreness. More than likely a pinched nerve but I wanted to make sure it wasn't something worse. Nope just brushed off. Took another 3.5weeks to go away.
Jonathan358 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:19:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree so much. Doctors and nurses, especially, who think they are the guardians of who to admit at hospitals are terrible. I went to a dead empty hospital and they were giving me tons of shit for walking in. Nurses were definitely not busy and doctors probably had few/none patients to tend to.
I go to school out of my home city and was scared and in pain with severe neck pain. Stayed up all night with the most painful neck cramp I've experienced, unable to sleep or turn my head even 5 degrees to the left and literally 0 degrees to the right. Living alone in an empty house with no family or friends around is scary.
I tough it out and can walk fine but am extremely light-headed. Genuinely scared that if I fell asleep the wrong way, my neck would be messed up for life, I call a taxi and go to the hospital...
Turns out it actually wasn't a big deal but damn, I took a couple pills and a big shot to the buttocks/thigh and was feeling better later that day (in your face asshole nurse who said the doc would just prescribe some Advil and poof).
If you aren't busy you could just give a kid some reassurance with a quick check-up during off-hours... If there was something severe, you could really mess up a young student's future/life.
Also, I strongly agree that having a check-up, if urgent, is not a waste of time. Taking meds to numb the pain won't help your body heal the way it needs to.
edit: The nurse had scolded me on how writing up a new patient costs taxpayer's money blah blah blah, ruining Canada's free healthcare blah blah blah. I understand that, but I also understand the pain I was in and that perhaps some over the counter meds may or may not have helped. I don't fully understand how hospitals make money off federal healthcare but either 1. The government isn't paying you to do nothing OR 2. My check-up may be paying for your salary.
^ fully aware that I may be stating naive things but you get the point. Parent parent "paladin" comment was pretty funny btw.
Maverick8787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:42 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I bet the attitude really helped, didn't it!
Fun fact: saying things like "my (whatever) pays your salary!" likely won't have the positive effect you think it'll have. Everyone will just think you're being a douche.
Jonathan358 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:31 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't mean this in any kind of "superior" way.
I also don't understand your point, it's true isn't it?
Fyi, I never said this out loud or even thought of this during conversation. Believe it or not, I am extremely polite and reserved...
kristahatesyou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:18:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I have moderate-severe back pain, and it started around age 9. My doctor felt my spine, told me it was fine, and to take Advil when it happened.
6 years later I went to a chiropractor because the pain was so bad, and he sent me to get an X-ray. I have an extra vertebra that's half cartilage, and scoliosis. I would cry for hours sometimes, the pain was so bad, and it still happens! Twice a year (on average) it gets so bad that I can't move, and nothing I take will get rid of the pain. I really wonder if a brace or something when I was young could have prevented it from being so bad.
maradetron ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoted for the end comment
Jascraft22 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:27:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This part killed me
Rebelo86 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once crashed my bike and flipped it. After two days (crash happened on a Saturday), I was still in a ton of pain, so I called my doctor and they got me in that afternoon. After an x-ray to confirm I hadn't cracked any of the bones in my arm, he wrote me a prescription for 50 tabs of 500mg antiinflamitories. Because "I was going to need it." He wasn't wrong. I fell in a trail race a few months later and got banged up pretty bad.
CanadianN1NJ4 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But doc, I thought you were a paladin
sunshinesomedays ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:48:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been this patient. Turns out I probably pulled an abdominal muscle despite not exercising, but I went to the doctors thinking it could be an internal problem. I was pretty embarrassed when I realized I hadn't tried any pain meds. But my mom who is an rn had looked at my stomach and never suggested I try taking anything for the pain.
Despite my stupidity, that was the most valuable doctors appointment Ive ever had because that doctor decided to prescribe treatment for an unrelated condition I had likely had for years. Yay second opinions!!
RugbyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. I went to my GYN because of pain. Turned out I just pulled a groin muscle while boogie boarding. Freaking uncomfortable examination for nothing. But at least I'm glad it was nothing.
Liskarialeman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:38:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a C. Mostly because I have an extremely high pain threshold, pain is the only red flag that tells me something is wrong and I need to see the doc. Just to make sure somethings major isn't going on. Typically the pain goes away after a good nights sleep. I will take a med if it's perscribed though!
AnonymousWritings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, answer A and B seem fine to me.
"I think I might be hurt and want to find out the actual cause rather than conceal the pain until it turns out I have metastatic bone cancer and am dieing tomorrow".
Also, all medicine has side effects right? Why would I take pain pills that aren't necessary?
fiddledebob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you ever refer them to a specialist? I understand an e.r. doc is not their regular doctor, but then they probably don't have one.
fjccommish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then they take medicine, only to find out it is bad for the kidneys, or has some other negative side effect.
iCameToLearnSomeCode ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I generally skip pain meds unless it is interfering with my day, I'll take them for a headache without a second thought but if I have a sore neck or something I generally just ignore it. This comes in large part from feeling like my body has mechanisms to deal with pain and injuries which I am better off not interfering with. I figure inflammation has purpose so taking an anti-inflammatory isn't worth it unless I am inconvenienced with the symptoms.
I know handing out medical advice via reddit is frowned upon but if I could get a personal opinion disclaimed recommendation.
Is it actually better for me to take something when I have minor aches and pains than not?
Phillip_Roy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And an upvote for you, my fellow dungeon delver...
disabledchipmunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The long-ass cooldown would explain the long-ass waiting times...
SomniferousSleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Silly! You don't need to be a Paladin to wear set Bramble Mitts.
beetus_gerulaitis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you would need to be a cleric or wizard....
nkdeck07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm married to this guy.
Him: X hurts
Me: Did you take a pain killer and ice it?
Him: No
That's why it still hurts then
ItsMeTK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, but sometimes taking pills creates its own problems. I had an infected tooth and was in agony. Pain meds didn't touch it. Was wat up in the front of my head so I didn't know whethercthe unfection was dental or sinus or what. Anyway, I go to the ER (yeah yeah, don't if it's not an emergency) and they don't know what it is but since I don't have a fever they send me home. Of course Ionor presenting with a fever: I'm pumped full of ibuprofen which suppresses fever. So I ho home and swear off the pills for a day and boom, fever.
TL;DR- Couldn't get necessary meds for infection because pain pills suppressed my fever symptoms.
QuickBow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In relation to C I can't swallow pills that aren't tiny and it needs enteric coating, my gag reflex is so strong I start to choke.
Pathfinderer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to just take pain meds all the time for my sore elbow though, its been bothering me for months that would get expensive ><. I want to know if there is something else I can do to fix it. my job requires I lift heavy boxes all day ><
wizardeyejoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
give me my 1d4 plus wisdom modifier hit points you quack
TheFrostMizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, some people are allergic to Ibuprofen. Would be scary taking a pill not knowing if you were allergic or not
Jethr0Paladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But Hospitaler is a prestige class that requires a few levels of Cleric or a bunch of levels of Paladin to get into. What do you mean you can't just invoke the God of the Sun?
NEXT_VICTIM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think people get "take the minimum effective amount of pain Meds" and "don't take pain medicine ever" mixed up. Minimum effective amount works wonders!
GetMeTheJohnsonFile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm definitely one of Those People who doesn't take otc pain meds until it's gotten very very bad. Now that I think of it, I think it comes from: 1) having undiagnosed eye issues growing up which resulted in migraines, which resulted in me taking otc pain meds every other day. My mom would always yell at me that I was taking too many and that it would damage my organs. 2) i got it into my head that if I take otc pain meds, I'm only masking the pain and not fixing the problem, and I could be covering up something BIG. None of this makes sense, i know.
RollAd20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just take my upvote damnit.
that-dude-that-reads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reminded of an episode of scrubs from this. It's where Dr. Cox tells a intern that the correct dosage of ibuprofen for a patient is the amount that's goes in there mouth when you throw the pills at them.
Seicair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Personally, it's because NSAIDs are ototoxic and they give me tinnitus even after one dose. I'm worried that because they give me tinnitus so quickly that I'm more susceptible to the ototoxicity and don't want to lose my hearing.
I don't know if this is true? But the doctors I've asked about it have agreed with me.
Drews232 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They came to find out why they have the pain and for you to do medical testing to determine if there's an underlying problem that needs medical treatment that is causing the pain. They are looking for a diagnosis.
You telling them to take Tylenol is like the joke where a man goes to the doctor and says "my arm hurts when I lift it like this", and the doctor says "well don't lift it like that anymore!"
JellyFish72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, devils advocate here: I don't take pain medications for potential injuries - I'm barely willing to take them for headaches. I'm a firm believer that pain is your body's way of telling you "Hey fucker, don't do this!", and pain meds mask that and make you more likely to do more damage. I will only take them if the pain is too bad to sleep and I'm not going to be moving from the bed, or for the 10+ year old knee injury I have that still hurts, but they're as confident as they can possibly be without knowing what's wrong that I'm not able to do any damage to it. So maybe don't judge them for not immediately popping pills.
My other devils advocate for this topic: just because it sounds like something minor and stupid doesn't mean it is. I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, and the amount of times I've dislocated something and don't want pain meds but rather an X-ray or a reset... So they could be wanting it checked out, rather than the pain meds. Actually, let's take a moment here to acknowledge the amount of times I've had to fight for testing and/or imaging to be done on me because doctors wanted to give me opiates and send me on my way, rather than investigate the issue - often outright stating they don't know what's wrong - and then acting like I'm faking problems because I don't want drugs. I fall into the highest risk group for drug seeking - why am I getting opiates damn near forced on me?!
That being said, I'm also not going to go to the ER for something minor. I'm much more likely to wait around until my orthopedist can see me, with the noticeable exception of having a bone through the skin or something. I've gone to an urgent care once due to a dislocated collarbone, because I was in enough residual pain that I couldn't tell on my own if it was back in place and wanted an X-ray, and my orthopedist at the time was incompetent. Other than that, I've suffered through many dislocated ribs waiting on them to shift back in place rather than go into the ER, and I just spent three weeks with a torn labrum because I know my own body well enough to self-diagnose it, and my orthopedist was taking the holidays off. (That being said, I had an appointment the first day he was back in the office and his plan is PT and wait to see if it heals on its own before we intervene, so that wasn't as moronic to do as it sounds.)
RugbyMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I like seeing specialists. I went to a regular doctor for random sharp shoulder pain. It would happen in different parts of my shoulder sometimes. She told me to take a couple Advil and come back if it still hurt in a couple weeks.
Next thing I did was ask if they have a sports medicine specialist. That doc manipulated my shoulder, found out I had problems with my rotator cuff, and started me on physical therapy.
Quackagate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a guy who trys to avoid takeing pills, I do it because i seem to have a high tolerance for pain meds so i would rather not build it up my tolerance because i stubbed my toe or something. How i found this out was when i had my wisdom teeth removed and the doctor put me on 500mg Vicodin, i proceded to take 2 thrying to either pyt me on the moon or knock my ass out, they did nothing for me
tenjuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a Paladin!
Cleospectra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WoW references! Lay on Hands is a paladin oh shit button. <3
DocGerbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28 and have no idea what tylenol or advil are, I've taken aspirin and nurofen before, so I know what those do.
FirstForFun44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
4 more years of seminar school and you would be.
Mojx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean I would be patient A, because I'm always paranoid that this random pain I'm having can actually be something worse, so I want a professional to assure me that it is just only a pain. ALso B, because I dont want to fuck up wich and how much meds I take and make it worse. I dont see why waiting for hours is a bad thing. To me it shows that you care about your health, really.
guacamoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I would be this patient. I know I can take pain meds and it will go away, but I don't want that, I want to know why it hurts so I can fix it instead of just render it ignoreable.
This is what pisses me off every single time I search by symptom on the internet. I don't fucking care about stopping the symptoms, I want to fix the problem.
hockeypup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unexpected WoW!
Slime0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why it baffles you that someone would want to find the source of a problem in their body before they mask it with pain medication and pretend it's not a problem.
spiderlegged ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you my boyfriend's Doctor?
DoveFlightNow ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A: they cant answer your questions if they can't feel what is going on.
B: really? They have different names. In life, things with different names do different things, and most people know that taking the wrong thing can mess you up.
C: refer to a physical therapist. They clearly have more of a clue than your 'educated' ass.
forthstories ยท 506 points ยท Posted at 22:20:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a grown ass (circumcised) man what circumcision was.
Almost_mental ยท 297 points ยท Posted at 23:29:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know what it was till I was 15. I yelled at my mom "why did you let them cut off the tip of my dick!!" The I got grounded....
Based-God- ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:16:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
same dude i was pretty angry when i found out
[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 00:50:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't angry until I found out it's where all the sensitivity is.
eletwo ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 02:50:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should I also tell you that you can easily and painlessly masturbate without lube when foreskin is intact?
And the real reason circumcision got so popular in the US.
TmickyD ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:23:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can easily and painlessly masturbate without lube and I'm circumcised. I don't see why it would be difficult.
snoharm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:08:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people have it cut tightly so that there's no slack. Which means friction. Friction isn't fun on your junk.
It's really just luck of the draw, but a dryjerk is a lot less likely to work if you're cut.
circuital14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would think its more a matter of technique than how "tightly" you are cut.
rwsr-xr-x ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:38:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
holy crap i never actually thought of that. that'd suck not being able to wank whenever you want
mttdesignz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow.. now I feel for you dickskinless bastards
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We appreciate your sympathy, but only because you put it so eloquently.
Anwar_is_on_par ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:49:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not circumcised (which my mom had to specifically remind the doctors not to do since I was born in a Jewish hospital), and I never understood why using lotion was such a huge stereotype for jacking off. It's in movies, TV shows etc. I tried it once and didn't understand the big deal about it. I guess it makes a lot more sense now.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has nothing to do with it. I'm circumcised and masturbate freely. Whenever, wherever, multiple times a day even. If you're rubbing yourself raw masturbating, you have a technique problem, not a circumcision problem.
rwsr-xr-x ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:44:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i mean... is this.. really true? like maybe my experience is different to every other non circumcised dude but it's sensitive in the same way your eyelids are, ie. not sexual at all but hurts like fuck if you jam it in a zipper
EmmaLuxombourg ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:47:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How have you managed to get an eyelid stuck in a zip?
rwsr-xr-x ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:14:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
zipping up my chastity mask (like a gimp mask but i wear it because i'm saving my first kiss for after marriage)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, forgive me for being uninformed but what's a chastity mask? (Picture please?) I googled it and I'm only seeing dust masks and gimpmasks. Or are you joking?
rwsr-xr-x ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:50:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
joking :)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And once more, my mind is at ease.
rwsr-xr-x ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:25:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you're welcome
i have that effect on people
SnArL817 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:49 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Take my upvote, you sick bastard!
nytheatreaddict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:29:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister's classmate had a jacket pulled up over his head and was zipping it open and closed really fast and somehow got his eyelid caught in it. I remember seeing the ambulance arrive at the school.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, now I'm curious. My uncovered tip is far, FAR more sensitive than any other bit of skin in my body (and the inside of the foreskin is equally sensitive). The only way I can think to explain it is that if you were to flick it hard I'd probably cry.
bubblegrubs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, you have misunderstood. The HEAD is where most of the nerves are and having a foreskin protects the extra nerves. Rubbing on your underwear/not having a foreskin to alow it to heal reduces the sensitivity.
rwsr-xr-x ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:45:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh! i get what you mean. cheers!
DocGerbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I touch my junk I get aroused, maybe you're doing too much, you lose sensitivity when you do it too much.
Rpizza ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:47:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats why I didn't have my son cut. That's barbaric.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 01:49:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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NoFapMat ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:52:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm uncircumcised. Most of my sensitivity is on the foreskin.
iCameToLearnSomeCode ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pasting here as well, I am circumcised, didn't get a choice in the matter (would have opted out if I could have) so I can't really say other than I have seen studies before.
L3viath0n ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe that's just because nothing's touched your glans yet?
NoFapMat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:59:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How original. Learn that in highschool?
L3viath0n ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it is a legitimate question, given the circumstances. You seem to be reporting something that goes completely against medical evidence, and I find that just a little suspect. Another possibility is your foreskin rubs on your glans and you're confusing where the sensation is coming from.
NoFapMat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I have sex it's hard to identify which part gives me the most pleasure. From blowjobs or masturbating, when the foreskin is pulled back, i get the most pleasure from contract with the stretched foreskin, under the head, along the shaft.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:50:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, so the sensitivity of the part that's cut off is reduced 100%. We can agree on that, right? Also, about 40% to 50% of the fine-touch nerve endings are on the part that's cut off.
To say "there's little change to the sensitivity of the penis by cutting off the foreskin" is like saying "there's little change in the sensitivity of the hand by removing the index and middle fingers". The only way that can be right is if you don't consider those fingers to be part of the hand.
iCameToLearnSomeCode ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2016-04/ehs-ncd041416.php
I am not supporting circumcision at all by the way, If I have a son I will certainly not do it to him.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:37:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw in your prior comment that you're not in favor of it. But this is apologist crap.
Okay, so they're seeing if the foreskin is more sensitive than other parts. That means they already very much acknowledge that it is quite sensitive.
Okay, so if it if only preliminary evidence, it doesn't seem like it was probably somewhat close in terms of glans vs foreskin sensitivity.
The next thing to consider is that there's about 2 or 3 square inches of glans. There's WAY more foreskin than that. It varies, but an average foreskin length is about 6 inches, and an average circumference is about 5 inches. That's 30 square inches, or around 10 times more of it than there is of the glans. And that 30 square inches gets its sensitivity completely removed.
But why I call it "apologist crap" is this: Let's say that you have a population of people who all had their right pinkie fingers cut off at birth, and another population who hadn't. You can test the dexterity of their hand in multiple ways- how neat is the handwriting, typing speed, ability to interface with a touchscreen, etc. And you won't find a noticeable difference between the two, because someone who grows up without a pinkie learns to do daily tasks without it.
Let's say that you then commission a study to find out if the presence of the right pinkie finger makes a difference to the hand. If you study this using tasks where the pinkie is not an integral part, then you'll find that it isn't important. If instead you look to see what the pinkie does that other fingers can't do, then you'll see that it is important.
Thus, the answer you get is very much dependent on the question you ask, and the question you ask is very dependent on which answer you WANT. Saying that the sensitivity isn't diminished ignores firstly that the sensitivity from the foreskin is valuable in its own right, and that is reduced 100%. It also doesn't study the things that the foreskin is known to do that the other parts of the penis don't do, such as provide friction reduction through mechanical gliding and keeping the glans moist. There are other functions as well.
So please, recognize this study for what it is- a defense of barbarity clad in the finest scientific suit that it can find, but a farce. Instead of going out to disprove its general thesis (circumcision doesn't change the penis functionality) it tries to prove its biases. This is the opposite of science.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:27:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. Never asked why they did it though.
Rpizza ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:46:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats why I didn't have my son cut. That's barbaric.
[deleted] ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 00:45:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because you made her realize that it wasn't her decision to make, and she got angry, because you're not supposed to make her mad at herself.
edit: for any men interested in regaining much of the function that was lost due to circumcision, check out
r/foreskin_restoration/
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:01:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:04:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's rough. Also, YES. She should totally teach you when you're 5 or 6 and she's still bathing you. That's part of the job of a parent. They go from wiping your ass to showing you how, and then they get out of the way as soon as they can usually.
It is a shame that she thinks there's shame involved in talking about your penis. It's not like she's a pedophile. Too bad she got programmed to think dicks are taboo.
UndeadKitten ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 03:27:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just remembered something I haven't thought about in years. A friend of mine has a couple of boys and they aren't circumcised. How do I know?
Because during a visit one of them happily climbed into my lap and decided we needed to have a heart to heart. About our genitals.
This cherub of a child, curly blonde hair, bright green eyes and the cutest smile sits on my lap and announces "Auntie Kitten, I can wash my own penis! My foreskin moves now so I gotta move it back and wash it when I take a bath."
I do not have kids, but I did at the time have a male cousin who WAS circumcised. Still, nothing had prepared me for a little boy making that announcement during lemonade and cookie time. So I managed something along the lines of "You're getting to be a big boy." and "That's very smart, being clean will keep you healthy."
He happily informed me that boys have penises and girls have vulvas. I was previously aware but thanked him for sharing this important bit of wisdom. Then he had to tell me that he had testicles too. I was glad to hear it, those typically are important organs to own as a boy. And then he told me "I'd show you but Mom says I shouldn't show people or ask to see theirs."
And he told me a bit more about his junk, asked me if I had a vulva (yup) and then informed me I was a girl then. (good to know buddy.)
My friend the whole time was refraining from laughing but when he went to play in his room she cracked up and thanked me for reinforcing the "yes clean that, yes boys and girls have different equipment, yes I have that equipment too" lessons.
Kids... They're fun as hell but sometimes you gotta discuss their junk.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:41:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yep. if you're going to procreate, yet be afraid of talking about things (like genitals) with your own children, you certainly shouldn't be making permanent decisions about their genitals, much less cutting them off in order to avoid a conversation.
That's like murdering your friend to avoid the embarrassment of telling them that you slept with their partner. It is supremely cowardly.
UndeadKitten ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:46:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta admit, after the embarrassment it was almost adorable how utterly shameless he was. His mind did not have a "this is dirty" filter for his junk, he was pleased as punch to tell me all about it.
I might've been a bit embarrassed had he SHOWED me (maybe i'm a little cowardly, but I prefer not to see the genitals of any kid I am not in the process of bathing, bathrooming or dressing) but as it was, it came across as super cute.
KnowKnee ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:10:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He must have been 4 or 5, because 2-3 year old boys almost always LOVE flaunting their bipper/pee pee/penis/winky, whatever they call it.
I raised a son, have a teenaged grandson and a 3 year old great grandson. Penis Pride is a thing with toddlers and pre-schoolers. Near as I can tell, it starts when they discover half the people they know didn't come with that uber-nifty thing, then becomes even more interesting when they can start & stop the flow of urine and watch it happening!
It's so purely innocent, like discovering what their nose does or how their ears work. They're very new at the whole being a person thing. Everything is genuinely fascinating.
Dragon_smoothie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:36:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My little cousin is 4 now, and she is the biggest exhibitionist I have ever met. She likes to do this thing after bathtime where she runs around the house in her hooded princess towel casually flashing the whoooooole room. She does non-nudist exhibitiony stuff too, so I guess I could just say she's performative? but... there it is. Little kids are weird, man.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:50:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, we have to teach them that their body is inherently naughty.
That is the single worst christian message- and unfortunately THE central one: that there's a part of you that was broken from the moment you were conceived, and you can't fix it. Without believing you're broken, they can't convince you that you need to be fixed, and that you can be fixed for the low low price of 10% right off the top.
UndeadKitten ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oddly his parents are fairly pious Catholics. Apparently he also informed the priest of his new talent and the man nearly busted something trying not to laugh. Having met their priest, I believe it.
He's an old man who married, had kids, was widowed and felt he should become a priest because he was never going to love any woman the way he loved his wife. So he did. And his daughters and their kids often attend his church and make people do a double take by calling him Grandpa. (I'm told his advice on premarital sex is "You know, Onan's crime was disobedience, not masturbating. Just saying.... not an actual sin....")
He also visited me during my hospitalization. I was borderline atheist at the time due to some shitty religious authorities in my family's churches, but that didn't matter to him. He knew me and knew a mentally ill teenager under hospitalization for the first time probably could use a friendly face, so he brought me some fantasy novels (sword and sorcery, not winkwink FAAAANTASY) a composition book and a package of markers to write with.
It meant a lot at the time. And I can see him now trying not to laugh at that earnest little boy informing him of his foreskin and its cleaning regimen.
cousinlazlo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love that he properly identified the vulva.
UndeadKitten ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, he and his brother can even explain to you the difference between vagina and vulva because their sister was taught it and apparently among small children knowledge passes by osmosis.
cousinlazlo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Teaching your kids: doing it right.
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is great. But i gotta say, I finally found the real barbarity in this thread. Lemonade and cookies?! Together?! WTF? That ain't right. Next you'll be telling me about OJ and cake time.
Miqotegirl ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:05:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um, actually that's what is supposed to happen. Your parents also teach you to wipe your ass too.
poorexcuses ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:02:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because he was fifteen and yelling at his mom about his dick.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:05:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
relevant username?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a hospital and see tons of patients from 8 to 80 that are being circumcised because their phimosis is so bad that circumcision is the best treatment.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting.
If you're 80 and you have bad phimosis, you've probably lived your entire life with it. Why the fuck would a doctor perform that surgery? Why would the patient request it?
In Europe, circumcision is almost never performed for medical reasons because they've spent the time and found better ways to make that part of the body function than to simply cut it off. There's manual stretching and steroid creams that make it work like normal.
Also, are you intending to say that because some tiny percentage of a percentage of people come in and are treated with an amputative procedure, that we should just perform that on everybody at birth to save them the trouble of a much less than 1% chance of it being beneficial later?
Should we cut out the breast buds from baby girls so that they can't develop breast cancer? Breast cancer strikes almost 1 in 6 women, it is a real killer, you know! Doing this could bring that number from 1 in 6 to less than 1 in 100. Yay! End breast cancer! Cut off ALL the boobies!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I also live in a heavily Hispanic dominated area, and many of the people of Hispanic heritage are Mexican immigrants or children of immigrants. The phimosis problems that span a lifetime may stem from the Mexican culture where it's heavily taboo. Many Mexican women don't even talk to their husbands about their menstrual cycles. It's possible that many Mexican men would never bring up the subject because they didn't know it wasn't normal.
I'm definitely not trying to start a debate, I'm just telling you that circumcisions are one of the most common urology procedures I see. I'm a female, so it's not really something I feel like I get an opinion on.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a totally reasonable thing to have an opinion on. And it is ready to have an informed opinion. If a person consents to having his penis cut, then he consented, whether the medical advice was sound or not.
If he didn't consent (or can't consent due to being an infant) then I liken it to performing the same act on a captured enemy soldier- it would be considered a war crime.
Centurion4 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:25:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know until today. about an hour ago. because of this thread.
I am not happy about this.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:54:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is a normal thing to be unhappy about. If you're interested, you can do something about it.
We can't regrow new nerve endings, but you can make the ones you have left function better.
r/foreskin_restoration/
And I think there are some support communities as well if you want to talk about it. Lots of men find that helps.
DrWhaleLove ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:14:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got an infection from something in my dick when I was young. I barely got away without being circumcised.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:53:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
" He got a bacterial infection on his left thumb"
"Cut it off"
"Don't we have things like antibiotics that handle stuff like that pretty well?"
"We have them, but we don't use them for thumbs. We just cut those off. It doesn't affect the dexterity of the hand."
Crystalinfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:52 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why hasn't anyone given you gold?! you are missing part of your penis!!
Rpizza ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:46:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thats why I didn't have my son cut. That's barbaric.
TR3Y_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 16 1/2(male) and I still don't know what it is...
stygger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to fix some misstakes of our parents, but as long as you don't brainwash or mutilate your children for religious reasons you're giving them a better start in life!
Walugii ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:29:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair how could he know anything was missing
biglebowski55 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:02:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The scar could be a hint.
SJHillman ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't look like much of a scar if they did a half decent job. And you'd probably never think of it as one if it was like that for as long as you can remember
biglebowski55 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:33:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Plenty of guys wonder why there's this colored ring around their penis, but you're right, they don't necessarily realize it's a scar.
Cymelion ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 01:14:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would you be so reasonable if it was female circumcision?
SJHillman ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:20:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reasonable about what? All I said was that as long as they didn't use a rusty spork, the scar doesn't necessarily look like something that would be a clue something was removed (it's not particularly noticeable if you've never not had it, and looks nothing like other scars). I made no comments about whether or not circumcision that should be done or should be banned. But I will say this - if it is going to be done, I'd at least hope it's going to be done well.
NitsuaCracker ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:51:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't really know what it was until I was 21 or 22 because no one taught me about it and I really didn't want to look up pictures of dicks :/
WTBTacosinDenver ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:56:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I had no idea I was cuz how would I know what an uncircumcised one looked like? Not something that gets brought up in convo
JustaAsshole ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... and the vast majority of porn the guy is snipped.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:34:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a grown ass man and I've never seen an un-circumcised penis in real life. But I know what it is..
notamagicgirl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:01:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dude....look it up.
SillyFlyGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen them in picture books and porn, just not live.
notamagicgirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah that would be harder to "look up"
KyleCleave ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:58:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it wasn't for porn I don't know for sure I would know what a circumcision is. It's not like men had a say in the matter or its brought up in conversation.
Tridian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:50:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, when most people get circumcised they aren't really in a position to have the doctor explain the procedure to them, and then their parents have no reason to mention it to them again.
aveidel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:17:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have also had to do this with several men (and women).
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:48:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In his defense, guys don't see a lot of dicks, the same ways most girls don't see a lot of snatch. And there's not much discussion. I'm in my 30's and I don't think I saw an intact penis until I was in my late 20's watching porn on the interwebz. And nobody in America talks about it.
So if nobody talks about it and there's no counterexamples available, how are you going to find out that you've been mutilated?
NDaveT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember when I learned about, but I figure like a lot of things I came across a word I didn't know while reading and either asked my parents what it meant or looked it up in a dictionary.
Trexy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:00:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So the "we circumcised so he won't be made fun in the locker room" is bullshit?
saraoflaherty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh great, now EVERYBODY will be made fun of.
saraoflaherty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly it makes me think about the Dr. Suess story about the Sneeches.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:38:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
let's put it this way, if you were, for some reason, going to move to Saudi Arabia and take you hypothetical daughter with you, would you have her clit and hood cut off so that she would look like the other girls?
Of course it is bullshit. If a teenage boy has a problem with NOT having had part of his dick cut off, he can probably find someone to do something about that. In South Africa, there's a coming of age ceremony where groups of boys go through some ordeal, which ends with their foreskin being removed. They can choose not to. Some make that choice, and are made fun of for it.
But those boys consented (through great peer pressure, but that's the how most of life goes anyway).
Also, there was very little if any parading around naked in the locker rooms I was in, which include junior high boys' lockers for gym class and for football and wrestling, high school boys' locker rooms for football and wrestling, and an NCAA division 1 Track and Field locker room for 4 years.
There's a reason young men bitch about old men walking about the locker room with their junk hanging out, and it isn't because the old men's junk is particularly ugly. It is because the younger men keep their towel on.
mattstreet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its all bullshit.
Zoronii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, if I weren't on the internet as often as I am, I wouldn't know, either. I had to explain circumcision to my girlfriend who was 19 at the time.
carbdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
trigger warning for Americans
anonomie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something I could see easily slipping through the cracks...I mean, it's not really an important part of sex ed and unless he was frequently exposed to other penises how would he know? It's not like parents tell their children, "oh by the way, your dick was cut when you were a baby!"
Treczoks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, usually this circumcision is made at an age where they cannot remember it, and those people have usually no way to compare their condition to "normal".
Insert_Gnome_Here ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you circumcise one's arse?
alloiledup ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he all of a sudden get upset and act like he was missing something super important in life?
Drives me up the wall how some males will act like they had a legacy waiting for them from their family members of $10mil+ and it was taking away when they react about being circumsised. Like calm down. I am sure you don't have a micropenis, so stfu.
saraoflaherty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:27:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people have very strong feelings about permanently altering someone else's body without their consent. There's a reason we aren't allowed to tattoo young children, but somehow cutting pieces of the dicks off is OK.
Narwahl_in_spaze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's more about bodily autonomy than anything else for most people. Sure, circumcision isn't probably all that life-changing for most men in Western cultures (I can't really speak for them because I have female anatomy), but I would feel pretty violated if my parents elected to have my genitals painfully and permanently altered when I'd be incapable of giving consent.
Also, there's a double standard when FGM (female genital mutilation) is compared to male circumcision. The former is universally seen as barbaric and dangerous with no medical benefit by anyone outside of practicing cultures, but the latter is far more socially acceptable. I personally think both are wrong and an absolutely unnecessary violation of the child's bodily autonomy. I think that's why a lot of circumcised men react negatively upon discovering what happened.
[deleted] ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 02:57:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You need to make sure you keep the hearing aids on your child while they are passing through the critical period for language development."
I have this conversation weekly. WEEKLY.
RDF50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weakly?
nemo_sum ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:32:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, I can't hear you, I have EARS OF CORN!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meekly.
WhoIsHoid ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 03:03:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a dentist, I examined a 1 year old child that had cavities on all 4 of his teeth. (He's only had teeth for a grand total of 6 months). I ask mom what in the diet could be the cause and she replies that she "just can't keep him away from that Coca-cola, if he sees a can or a bottle or the fountain he'll just scream till I give it to him." Also, she wasn't brushing his teeth.
So, I had tell mom that 1 year olds shouldn't be drinking soda and that parents are supposed to brush their children's teeth.
minimassacre88 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:48:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My biological mother did that to my brother. He had to have like 4 root canals at 2 years old. Good news is she lost custody shortly after
RDF50 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:13:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soda in baby bottles is somewhat common in a poor Mexican border town I've worked in.
WhoIsHoid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:56:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. I was actually was working in a clinic in a Mexico border town when this particular exchange occurred.
jgolden2690 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:58:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a woman give soda to her 8-month-old today. Ugh.
thepicklednelson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A fountain of Coke???
WhoIsHoid ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:55:26 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. Yes. As in the machine commonly found in fast food restaurants where you push your cup against a lever and soda is dispensed into your cup.
thepicklednelson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had something like this in mind http://worth1000.s3.amazonaws.com/submissions/539000/539285_a963_625x1000.jpg
WhoIsHoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's great. Exactly what we need here in the diabetic capital of the world! Wouldn't even seem out of place...
toolatealreadyfapped ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 03:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Med school was full of these. Especially from rotation in pediatric ER.
A mother brought her 16 y/o daughter to the ER because the calluses on her feet were getting annoying. My attending was seething as she tried to explain to the mom that the little girl dying of asthma exacerbation was an emergency. Asking for a podiatry consult was not.
Another mom brought her infant in to the ER for constipation. The child had a massive bowel movement while in the waiting room. Mom figured since she was here, may as well get a checkup for the baby anyway. Then I get to present the patient during rounds later. Imagine how much fun it is to explain to the senior resident that your emergency constipation patient hasn't had a BM in the last hour.
In pediatric clinicals, we had to threaten to call child protective services on a young hipster couple that were trying to enforce their own mega-vegan diet on their toddler. The poor kid had completely fallen off the growth chart, and was missing every developmental milestone. Apparently, they'd had the kid on 100% soy diet since the day he was born, viewing even breastmilk as inhumane.
Metalbass5 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 09:12:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Vegans" like this give the rest of us a bad name. Jesus christ people, just because you're vegan doesn't mean that you get to skip out on taking in actual nutrients. Fuck me. If you want to raise your kid vegan go to a nutritionist and get a meal plan or something. Fuck.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! I don't see how breast milk would not be vegan either - unless you steal it from another woman, I guess?
toolatealreadyfapped ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:38:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, her reaction to the very idea of breastfeeding was insane. Like she recoiled in disgust, and was like "that's still a thing?!"
Metalbass5 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:16:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The general consensus is that it's totally vegan. No one suffers involuntarily to produce it. That woman was just a dolt.
guacamoleo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate when these stories get into the news and they just call it a "vegan diet" with no specifics, when what it really is is an insane diet that happens to be vegan.
Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:07 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's an argument to be made for letting that last kid die.
JimmyRat ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 06:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hospice nurse here:
"No, Sir, it is not better for your liver transplant to drink Jack Daniels than it is to drink Budweiser."
"Yes, Sir, I understand that there is less liquid involved in drinking Jack Daniels, but the alcohol content is metabolized by your liver regardless of the volume."
"Yes, I am sure"
"Yes, they did teach us that in nursing school."
"Yes, it was in a real college."
"No, I'm quite sure that is not what the doctor in the hallway at the transplant place meant."
"Well, Sir, I'm sorry you don't believe me, but the Jack Daniels is why you've now destroyed two livers."
"No, I don't think they'll do a second transplant."
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe a person who destroys their organs through substance abuse is even eligible for a transplant to begin with.
JimmyRat ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:23:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I try to be a compassionate person and certainly never allow negative feelings show at work, But I 100% agree with you.
This particular patient was in his early 60s and destroyed his original liver through long-term alcoholism. Then, after getting a transplant, he sat around drinking a case of Budweiser a day and chewing Tylenol like it was going out of style.
I think everybody knows that Tylenol is bad for your liver. I think everybody knows that alcohol is bad for your liver. I think everyone knows that Tylenol and alcohol together is especially bad for your liver. And I know that anybody who's received a liver transplant definitely would've been told all that information.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately a lot of people don't know about Tylenol. I teach it to my students whenever I get a chance, but other than a small print warning in the label they don't think much about it much less understand why.
JimmyRat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never had a liver transplant, but I find it very hard to believe a person wouldn't be told.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course if they've had a liver transplant. I'm talking about the general population.
JimmyRat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people are pretty stupid.
Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't think that most people know that.
JimmyRat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ask around.
andygchicago ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 07:36:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a woman come in with her family for a gangrenous toe. It was dry gangrene, and the toe was basically mummified (she lost circulation to that toe). It was cold, black and hard, and it basically looked like a black twig. I told her that the toe was lost, and we probably should amputate to prevent the chance of an infection down the road. She insisted that the toe looked that way because of the gentian violet (a purple antiseptic, common in South America), and that the toe would heal. Needless to say, it snapped off as she put on her sock.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:56:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That escalated quickly...
Brassens71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:32:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that took care of that...
Optimal_Meow ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 07:57:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buried, but meh.
Idiot dad: "so what pills will he (son) need to cure his autism?"
Me: laughs
Idiot dad: "and how long does he have to take them for him to be fully cured?"
Me: ....
Idiot dad: "... 2 months? 6 months."
Me: "Sir, seeing as I am the end of the line type doctor for kids with Autism, you should know enough about it by now since your son has had 18 months worth of professional medical evaluation to reach said diagnosis. I can't perform my job unless the diagnosis is confirmed. Are you meaning to tell me, that for 18 months, not one of the 8 doctors you have seen has explained autism to you?"
Idiot dad: "so, it's like an infection? I'll get that prescription and be on my way."
If I was one of the first people consulted on his son's case then I would understand his lack of knowledge on autism, but this dude was a single dad and had been at every single appointment with his kid for a year and a freakin' half before it was confirmed he is autistic! Blew my fucking mind. Working with him for the next 2 years was worse than working with his son who was high dependancy. I think even he knew his dad was a moron.
Corey307 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:24:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
$5 says there was a huge amount of denial as well, might be causing more problems than the stupidity.
Optimal_Meow ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:30:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dealing with parent denial or guilt is about 80% of my job. This guy was grade A dumb dumb. He undid all the work I did with his sweet son with his idiocy. I hope he is thriving wherever he is now... poor kid had no chance.
Corey307 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:52:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate people. They'd rather feel better than actually do something to help their children.
citronpirate ยท 1605 points ยท Posted at 19:09:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my uncle told about a patient who thought he had Ebola because he was in the same Que as a coughing black guy. :/
paigezero ยท 1736 points ยท Posted at 20:29:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, your q doesn't have nearly enough silent letters.
mrizzerdly ยท 1151 points ยท Posted at 20:49:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kqughe? Am I spelling it wright?
Twons ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 21:38:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, in Welsh.
SwedishBoatlover ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:37:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that's the abbreviation. The full words is Kqughwhlluehghwlfairgwyugllwgogerychsiliwyllphbllllhlwgofairwhgollanchque
forklift_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:01:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...sydd mewn gwirionedd yn eithaf agos
probablyhrenrai ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:59:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trefniadaeth Seilwaith Amddiffyn Man Hyfforddi Caerwent.
forklift_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would give gold if I am not broke
iambecomedeath7 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 00:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not enough ys for Welsh. That's Kyuwyyye.
Whalepatrol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except we don't have a k in our alphabet so it would be cyuwyyye.
chloelouiise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No k in the Welsh alphabet!
Source: am Welsh. Hate sheep though
norsish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know, you made extra sure to protest the sheep thing...
AvatarWaang ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:38:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queue
XkF21WNJ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:37:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queueue
EthanCoulson ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:59:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queueueue
illness_only ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:44:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've started Queueueueueueueueing, but I don't know how to stop! Eueueueueue
nolo_me ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're British now.
phoenixphaerie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:06:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queueuehuehuehue
courtoftheair ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:02:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
K and Q aren't in the Welsh alphabet. Just saying.
Edit: POS reddit app likes to post replies on the wrong comments. It's probably not far from this one so eh.
GeebusNZ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like you replied to the wrong comment.
courtoftheair ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:42:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck it, I can't delete and recomment on the app.
MyStrangeUncles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:49:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BaconReader, baby!
courtoftheair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:43:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that on android?
MyStrangeUncles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes indeedy, they have both.
courtoftheair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dude thank you.
MyStrangeUncles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're very welcome! BR's not perfect either, but I like it best of all the apps I've tried. Also, r/baconreader. :)
bert_the_destroyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Relay, baby
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The official one for android. It is... Not great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
deleted What is this?
courtoftheair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh cool, thanks!
bengoumaII ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:22:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its qsendnudes
PeaceLoveHippieness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Line.
TaeKwon_DO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot a "u".
DMPancake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, it's queueueueueueueuueuweuweusghaRDSfgahdgSFJghraektrgSFEoeaytahjgsofAhgkahksAIJDFOHGSAFIDJHGADJIgjADkSLVDAJueueueueueue.
nolo_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the black guy from the queue!
Andernerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Needs to look stupider and more French.
Little_Duckling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Noh, wrongh
EyeGifUp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, many people miss that silent K.
banditkeith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No no, it's spelled headphones
Koolaidguy541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
close enough!
Koolaidguy541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
close enough
AYDITH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Qeghwueuwe
kyrsjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Qap'lah.
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, that's the sound a cat makes when it coughs up a hairball.
MwowMwow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:35:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the simplified version, but it's considered acceptable in informal writing these days.
[deleted] ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 20:50:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queabcdfghijklmnoprstvwxyz
Sorry, those are all the letters I know.
thehonestyfish ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 20:59:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot รฑ. And ร.
T-A-W_Byzantine ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 21:20:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And รค and รฆ and รผ and รถ.
thehonestyfish ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:22:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be ridiculous. Those aren't real letters. ร, now that's a letter
T-A-W_Byzantine ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:25:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Preposterous! The only real letter is ฮพ.
thehonestyfish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:29:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Witchcraft!
Inimitable ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well sure, where do you think letters come from?
Dantonn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:28:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The linguomancers are a well established coven. I'm not sure how people are unaware of them.
Dragon_smoothie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as a linguist, this comment makes me happier than it maybe ought to.
vectroxe ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:28:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And รฅ
RanaktheGreen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:00:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And ใใใใใใใซใใใใใใใใใใใใใกใคใฆใจใใชใซใฌใญใฎใใฏใฒใตใธใปใใพใฟใใใใใใใใใใใใใใใใใand ใ. But those are more creative.
tamadekami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Toire de arimasu!
Kman1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
รรถ
T-A-W_Byzantine ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:46:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatcha say
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:50:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-รขรฃรฅรฆรครกร yลท
T-A-W_Byzantine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:53:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
รรถ that you only meant well, well of course you did
SwedishBoatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically "ehhh" (as in "I don't know what the fuck to say so I make a sound while I'm thinking"), but we usually spell it "รhhh".
lazy_panda42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ลล ลฐลฑ
fleckney7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And ff and ll if your Welsh.
kjata ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are those Welsh letters, or are they just consonant clusters that produce sounds only tangentially related to those produced by the separate consonants? I honestly don't know, but I assume the latter. Then again, W exists and that evolved from a literal double U, so I don't really know what to think.
fleckney7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
According to my girlfriend, who's first language is Welsh, they are letters in the Welsh alphabet.
SurprisedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And 5 and # and ใช and ๐
Roger_Roger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Motley Crรผe
SwedishBoatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And you forgot รฅ!
I_HAVE_THAT_FETISH ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:31:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it weird that my reading of that resulted in the pronounciation of them like "enya" and "bzz"?
thehonestyfish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:39:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Enya makes sense. Bzz leads me to believe that you don't know how ร is pronounced.
I_HAVE_THAT_FETISH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how either of them are pronounced. Those were just the first sounds to come to mind.
Lynks31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:37 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an 's' as in snake. ร.
paigezero ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 20:53:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's good that you tried.
MonsterTruckButtFuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, let's not bring gay rights into this.
dumbrich23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
K
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't know queue was a Welsh word.
avsfan1933 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quezyxwvutsrqponmlkjihgfedcba
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You left out r
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's right before the "s"
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But where's t?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Check after "s" but before "v"
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But where's the almighty p?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:20:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After "e" but before "x"
rzNicad ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:51:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whenever I need to spell 'queue,' I say 'kweewee' in my head and write that.
tucci007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:31:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cue Oowey Oowey
luckierbridgeandrail ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You could try asking the Luigi board.
curiousiah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a joke in here somewhere. Mario consulting a Luigi board to find out where the princess is... I don't know. It's going to keep popping up into my thoughts for the next week until I laugh at it even briefly.
aboxacaraflatafan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say cuey-yuey.
bentbrewer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:14:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟQuรฉ?
oculardrip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟque?
curiousiah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:15:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey now, not every Brit wins a spelling bee.
wubalubadubscrub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quexueue?
paigezero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Mexican god?
WalterJessePinkWhite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queueueue
Herb_Kazzaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
queue
PureMitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟQuรฉ?
onedoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't quite hear you. Que?
ImNotAWhaleBiologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, come on, it's British, not French.
paigezero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right? And here in Britain, we spell it queue.
klman0225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is my new way of saying that thank you.
coinpile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Que?
agnarpokoddham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You take a letter, add four silent letters behind it and now it spells that first letter.
SwitchesDF ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 20:25:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stupid. Obviously it was sickle cell anemia he contracted
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:36:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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terracaelum ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 20:48:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
exactly
feeju ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it is and more common among Africans
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But race isn't real.
the--babe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but populations and ethnicities are. Sickle cell anemia has a high incidence in populations originating in sub-Saharan Africa, the Arabian peninsula, and parts of India
Throwaway56422 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes lol
adrianmakedonski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is
ben1481 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whoooooooooosh
2percentright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"congratulations! Your malaria is cured!"
StingsLikeBitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure there is only a 3 out of 5 chance of catching it.
postmodern_cereal ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:28:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟQue?
rebelx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:21:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same what?
WhatAGayTwist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟla misma que?
10ebbor10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queue
rebelx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, I was messing with him
danceycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Que is what in Spanish
kaleb42 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:38:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did you say what in the middle of your sentence
horses_for_courses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:00:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queue? The British term for a line of people
Sam-Gunn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:05:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
queue is a line, cue is a signal or one of the stick thingies you use in billards/pool, and que is spanish for "what".
fistulatedcow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:54:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been a while since I've taken Spanish, but I think "que" means "that" and "quรฉ" means "what."
TheGeraffe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're right.
kaleb42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im talking about Que which is Spanish for what
horses_for_courses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:23 on January 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
apologies.
Princess_Glitterbutt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:37:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends was a stripper at the time of the big Ebola scare. One of her fellow dancers was really afraid that she might catch Ebola because she gave a lap dance to a British man.
jaw-breaker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, but an ER doc...
That a teenager's rectal bleeding wasn't an ebola symptom, but a side effect of being too friendly with a shampoo bottle.
fistulatedcow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D:
mbetter ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:44:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same what?
TylerLivingston ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:50:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Queueueueueueueuueueueueueue
smpsnfn13 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:57:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
huehuehueheuhuehuehue
eric987235 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Correct.
GenitalFurbies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same what?
Stats_Sexy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟQue?
Trumpstered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same what? The same queue.
Mank_Deme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same what?
smugliberaltears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's just regular old racism. tell him to line up in a queue instead of a que next time. too easy to catch the racisms from a que.
deadcelebrities ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟQue?
PaleAsDeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
During that last Ebola outbreak We actually had to have signs printed up for our back room that said nobody in our state was infected with Ebola and that it was quarantined, and that we would not contract Ebola at work.
People were actually going to HR and telling them they can't come into work because they were afraid if they left their house they would get Ebola. Couple people actually freaked out when they saw someone coughing.
Joey__stalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe not Ebola, but black people often do carry that itis.
EinsteinNeverWoreSox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
queue
[deleted] ยท 158 points ยท Posted at 22:13:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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shakenthenubake ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AHAHAHA raid on a maggot-filled wound actually makes sense if you have no medical knowledge - it kill bugs right?!?!
LSUDoc ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:50:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really sad. Family with a older mom that is chair bound with bad lower extremity wounds. maggots set in. They sprayed raid on her legs foe a few days. Finally brought her in. She died. Just sad family was confused as they thought they where helping. Why I glossed over.
kerill333 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:02:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... Absolutely awful. :( :( :(
Rebelo86 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:53:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's pool shock?
Arcsis ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:46:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I understand it, they're high concentration chlorine tablets for pools. My dad used them when the pool was green in the spring to clear up the algae.
Rebelo86 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:02:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ARE YOU SERIOUS?! What on earth could they be thinking?!
Edit: obviously they weren't. Stupid question.
LSUDoc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup
ThickAsABrickJT ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:56:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually calcium hypochlorite. Essentially powdered bleach.
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:05 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's 2 kinds of chlorine for pools: "normal" chlorine and "shock".
"Normal" chlorine is either liquid or tablet sodium hypochlorite that contains a UV stabilizer to prevent sunlight from breaking it down too quickly. It raises the Cl level in the water enough to prevent bacteria and algae from growing.
Shock is hyper concentrated and is designed to drastically raise the Cl levels in the water (usually to treat an algae bloom, but can be used every few weeks to kill off algae that start becoming resistant to normal chlorine treatment). Because it raises the Cl levels so much in so short a period of time it is made without the UV stabilizers present in "normal" chlorine, so that it breaks down after a day or so.
DeskRef ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:46:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking the same. Maybe it's pool chalk, that blue powder used for pool cues?
Still, WTF.
malonkey1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:17:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am much more interested in the "Raid on maggot wound" story that you kinda glossed over.
MrEmouse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:59:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought hypoglycemia was "reverse diabetes"
majortahn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:03:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient who was "allergic" to epinephrine. Yeah, no.
holagatita ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:19:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While there is no such thing as reverse diabetes, insulin allergy is a real thing. Just need to switch to a different kind. Kind of sad that you don't know that. http://insulinnation.com/treatment/medicine-drugs/insulin-allergies-are-for-real/
LSUDoc ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:35:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
without reading this article i am going to assume it is the delivery device or how it is compounded not the insulin per se. It is like my pt's are allergic to steroids. No you are not, you are allergic to part of something else. Now, I am sure in the history of medicine there is the 0.000000000000001% that may have this. Probably like people that turn carbs into Etoh. But I am sorry. There are not >50 of these people living in the city I do with some rare disease. The frustration in my posting, is that they feel insulin increases their blood glucose. God and before you go and google something else, I am aware of the somogyi effect. This is not this. These are people that just don't want to be compliant. Yes, we work with them. Yes we talk and talk and talk to them. I sit down I try to educate. But there are some people who will just never learn and or care. It is a multifaceted problem that makes us sad and frustrated at the same time. All you can do is joke with your partners as catharsis before you try again to sit and talk to people because you really do care.
holagatita ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:47:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just a type 1 diabetic that got hives with Apidra but do great with Novolog. That's all I am saying.
Callyopi ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:58:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
These people aren't saying they have an allergic reaction to the insulin. They don't break out in hives or get anaphylaxis. They say they can't take the insulin because it raises their blood sugar instead of lowering it. They are just calling it an allergy because they are idiots.
holagatita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
right, I get that, but in my case I also did not respond well to it, and my glucose went up dramatically as well.
LSUDoc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:55:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, not here to disagree. We are on the same page as you are not telling me that McDonalds better for you than Launts and/or Novolog. I could have elaborated better I guess.
ccatlr ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:35:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it does say LSU.
cormacredfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm going to trust any doc about diabetes, it's going to be one who was trained in New Orleans (LSU med is out of NOLA). Our diabetes rates were (probably still are) horrendous. Hey /u/LSUdoc, did you ever work at Charity?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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saraoflaherty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Insulin is a natural hormone in the body. How are you not dead? (Honest question)
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:45:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ParacelsusTBvH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:35:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand wanting to be unique and special, but don't you think your taking the piss? /s
Best of luck in your continued treatment. I hope it gets easier for you.
SomniferousSleep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
good luck, love. I'm currently looking for more doctors to try to help my own chronic condition; it's not fun. Just frustrating and exasperating.
AnatasiaBeaverhausen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so interesting (I know it's not fun being a medical mystery).
Have they tried to target it from the allergy side with medications like xolair that bind to free IgE? Brigham and young women's hospital has a mast cell specialist that may be about to help.
I'm sorry you have to juggle all of this. Best of luck to you.
saraoflaherty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, hope they are able to get you sorted!
EndlessTetris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the heck did the injected gasoline story happen?
RaiseOnTheRiver ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 02:36:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is a physician and just shared this story with me. A new patient of hers said he took about 9-10 different medications. At the beginning of each week, he would just throw seven of each pill into a bowl, and would then grab a random handful each morning when walking out the door. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
quentinrittman ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:00:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
pharmacy trail-mix :-)
SmellTheLoktar ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:49:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Close enough.
MissTypaTypa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:44:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh good lord...
guattarist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the cut of his jib.
MDMedical ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:58:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is a nurse so I asked her to weigh in. She said the number of people who deny having a medical issue, because they're on medication, is insane.
Nurse: Ok so you have [medical issue A] and you've been taking [medication A]? Patient: I do take [medication A] but I don't have [medical issue A]. Nurse: You don't? It says here on our chart that you do. You're definitely taking [medication A] though, right? Patient: No, I don't have that. I just have to keep taking [medication A] and I'll be fine. Nurse: Ok, so you have [medical issue A] which is being managed by [medication A]. Patient: No, that's incorrect. I just have to keep taking [medication A] and my [medical issue A] will be fine.
I guess this is a big one when it comes to people with high blood-pressure or diabetes.
A more specific one would be a diabetic woman came in with blood sugar "off the charts," had to be rushed to the ER, the whole shebang. Turns out she was a Diabetic Educator who helped people with diabetes learn about the disease, check blood sugar levels, etc.
Rikolas ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:49:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad kind of fits into this category. He has Parkinson's, but doesn't believe he does. He takes medication for it, the doctors have prescribed it to him. I have conversations with him along the lines of "Yes but you have Parkinson's dad" "Well I don't think I do" "Yes but the doctor prescribed you Parkinson's medication, which you are taking, correct?" "Yes I am, but I don't think I have it..."
This goes round and round in circles... To be fair to him though, he barely takes the medication, so maybe that's why as he doesn't believe he needs to?
Jinxyfaggot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the different view of this. I'm 23 years old and I've had high blood pressure since I was 19 (140/115 was my resting lol). I've had quite a few doctors not believe that I have high blood pressure because my resting is now 120/93 or something like that. Yeah, my blood pressure is good because I'm on medication and try to work out.
Paws_Of_Murphy ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 06:52:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I bring my puppy to work with me and am in the process of training her to do tricks etc. One day a work colleague comes up to me amazed and says;
'but how does it know what to do? 'Because I'm training her with treats so she remembers that it's a fun thing to do when I say the command word'
The work colleague looks utterly confused and then says, 'so ... so do dogs have brains? Like us?'
Silence followed.
'But it's so weird, how can they have brains? Do all animals have brains?'
Stunned silence.
This is one of many mental things this person has said since I've worked there.
Metalbass5 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:22:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does that person have a brain?
jasontravels123 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:28:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I teach in an elementary school and this is the same question a grade 1 child asked me last week. Your colleague must have missed that day of school.
cbcfan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely he dissected a frog in high school?
DocGerbill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:33:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't, not standard in Romania, you only do dissections in medical school.
cbcfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:59 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh. Very common in high school in North America. And grade school according to Steven Spielberg.
thepicklednelson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:35:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please provide proof of puppy
ForeverFoxyLove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/i61nUMA01wk
Grogeba ยท 615 points ยท Posted at 22:40:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Son of a physician here. Was told an interesting one a while back.
Basically, there were some patients who would have rings put around the top of the stomach in an attempt to make it so they couldn't eat as much food (they'd get sick if they had more than could pass through the ring, if I recall correctly). The idea was that this would help in reducing weight in patients who drastically needed it down so as to help with their health issues.
Well, some of them would learn that if you ate only a little over what the ring would allow at a time, you'd eventually be able to eat ridiculously large servings again. This was because the ring would stretch out over time.
You can imagine what the conversation between doctor and patient was like when the doctor found out what the patient had been doing.
Loopylou1985 ยท 292 points ยท Posted at 23:50:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who had weight loss surgery and initially lost 5 stone through it.
A few months later they were telling me about the whole pizza, chips (or fries if you're not in the UK), ice cream and full bottle of wine they had had the night before.
I was quite surprised and mentioned that I thought they were supposed to be eating small amounts of proper food, not junk food since the operation.
Her response was "The band will make me sick if I eat too much, so I don't need to worry about it anymore."
Unsurprisingly they have regained all of the weight they lost. :(
neccoguy21 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:14:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This story makes no sense... She ate a whole shit load of food, then said "if I eat a shit load of food, it makes me sick so I don't have to worry about it anymore"... Huh?
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 00:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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mrcatboy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One lady who had bariatric surgery died because she'd stuffed her fat gob to the point that her esophagus had stretched to become a sort of accessory stomach, and she'd filled her esophagus up to the point that she choked to death when the column of masticated food reached her larynx.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2159155/Obese-woman-suffocates-food-gastric-bypass-surgery-meant-couldn-t-fit-stomach.html
Grogeba ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:04:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know what? I'm not even gonna acronym it this time.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Exist50 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:09:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any source other than the Mail?
TheVentiLebowski ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:47:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's enough Internet for today ...
Crystalinfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:30 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of the reasons this is happening, is people who handle stress or whatever by eating, either keep doing it or find another unhealthy vice to help them cope with stress. You can google people talking about it. This is probably the reason people yoyo with their diet and weight.
They need counseling and to find a different way to relieve stress. I'm trying to find a healthier way to relieve stress and its hard. The best way I have found so far is to take long drives in the country. I'd rather have a more productive way but until I find one....
jinkside ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:39:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gastric bypass and a lap band are not even kind of the same thing.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The gastric sleeve is not the band surgery. That's the lap band.
Source: I have a gastric sleeve or more properly called Vertical Sleeve Gastrectomy.
agent_fuzzyboots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
gastric sleeve is not the band surgery, also if you had the operation the doctor will tell you that drinking with your food is bad.
Source: am sleeved
Beccabearx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:17 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually the wrong information for gastric weight loss patients water,or any type of fluid,will force food through our pouches quicker, meaning we can eat more. It's recommended that we don't drink 30 minutes before or after eating a meal.
Source: I am a gastric bypass patient.
Thylatron ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:35:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She was under the impression that the band would magically tell her "You need to stop eating now" by making her sick.
So, since she was eating all that shit (due to the band being slowly stretched out over time) and not getting sick, it must be okay.
kdoodlethug ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:26:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think she managed to eventually stretch past what the ring would allow, but assumed that she still wasn't eating "that much" because it hadn't made her feel sick. She was eating a shit ton of food, but because that was her habit she didn't perceive it as being that much food.
neccoguy21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotcha
Doom-Slayer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Differed responsibility. The ring tells her if she eats to much by making her sick, so if she never gets sick, it must be okay.
And if she gains weight, well, the ring must be broken, all the rings fault.
Loopylou1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:37 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, that's her answer to it. She had the operation, and has slowly trained her ring thingy to allow her to eat more and more, by slowly working up to eating as she did before the op. She genuinely believes that if she eats too much, or the wrong type of food, the ring will magically make her sick so she doesn't need to watch what she eats any more. It's sad.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Loopylou1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better off being a little bit sensible, but yup, big old waste of money.
Earplugs123 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:25:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see your dad treated my aunt.
Grogeba ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:55:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mom, actually. =D
And yeah, sorry to hear that your aunt had to go through that. From what I've been told, it's something most people wouldn't need if they simply had better control of their caloric intake.
Earplugs123 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:36:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit, unconscious sexism got me. Thanks for your concern for my aunt- she ended up having the band removed and getting gastric bypass instead, which seems to be working better since she can't cheat it.
Grogeba ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:40:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lulz, no worries. Probably would've made a similar assumption myself.
These surgeries always seem a little oddball to me, but I do believe that there are those who can benefit from them, depending. Happy to hear she's doing better. :)
CatsAreDivine ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:08:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi there, person with a Lapband here. (Since 2006)
Basically I think of it as having two stomach's. Top and bottom. When I eat, I have to chew thoroughly or the food can't pass through the band. Initially, it will stay in the top part for a bit and hit the "full" signal sooner. If I don't chew well enough or something doesn't sit right, I WILL get sick.
From my experience, most people that have had the band will push the did limits too much. I think it's because you never really learned how to control the eating impulses and frankly most of the time you aren't even eating 1200 calories a day. Most people I know who had the band have had it removed at this point. Most have had complications of some sort. I haven't really had any aside from my first pregnancy stretching the top part of my stomach.
The woman you were speaking of either stretched her pouch, or didn't continue maintenance on keeping the band tight. Mine isn't functioning 100% because of that pregnancy (long story, but short form is that my belly never popped out so everything on the inside got crushed), but it is functioning enough to at least help me be able to maintain a weight, and when I work hard like normal people I will slowly lose again. It still keeps it under control.
Eventually I plan on having it removed and possibly having the sleeve done, but that'll be more for a preventive measure. It seems far too many people are having complications with it, some very serious and frankly I'd rather just be done with it at some point. I'm not even sure most drs are doing the surgery anymore. I think the last thing I read was something of a 76% failure rate. ๐
WholesaleBees ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're doing well with the band but are worried about possible future complications, sleeve would probably work really well for you!
UndeadKitten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does the lapband handle liquid? Does it go right through or can you get full from drinking a lot?
I doubt I'll ever get one (I don't have health issues caused by my weight, my doctor vetoed any weight loss surgery on those grounds) but I've always been kinda curious because when I'm anxious I drink glasses of water until it passes and wondered what a lap band would do in that case.
CatsAreDivine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:51 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you drink too fast it'll come up on you, but otherwise it'll go down. But some kinds of drinks can mess you up. Sugary drinks can sludge up, and sodas with the carbonation can feel like tiny knives.
UndeadKitten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:15 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I appreciate your answer.
I've wondered about it for awhile.
kc-fan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had the sleeve done a couple of years ago. My weight loss is slower than the bypass, but it feels more natural now. I can tell when I eat 1 bite too much because I feel a little nauseous for a bit.
Overall, having the sleeve has been a positive for me. I was able to get off my diabetes meds and get some control over my weight. It wasn't a magic surgery that made the weight disappear, but it did give me a jump start that made it easier for me to get back in control of my weight.
NoFapMat ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:51:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just moderate how much you eat, or get on a keto diet.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:03:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lap bands! Ugh, my friend almost died from hers after it slipped and cut off too much of her stomach.
La_Condesa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a lap band for 5 years, and almost died from it because it twisted and I had very little room for anything to go down. I couldn't drink and eat at the same sitting, because it would basically not fit and I would immediately regurgitate. Even since having it removed 2 years ago, I have suffered severe anemia due to malnutrition, and I have been hospitalized 3 times for emergency transfusions because my body simply will not absorb iron anymore.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry to hear you've continued to suffer, even after removing it. Insanely, although my friend was quite literally dying, her insurance refused to cover its removal. She had to go to Tijuana for the removal. She said it was good healthcare. Anyway, the doctor said she was two weeks from death when she came in for the removal. Fortunately, she's been doing very since.
ziburinis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:12:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone who got lap band surgery. Immediately after the surgery she was eating incorrect foods and in larger amounts than she should. She didn't care that it hurt like a bitch to eat more than she was supposed to. Her eating was so disordered she was compelled to overeat before she had even healed from surgery. No surprise that even though she initially lost weight she gained it all back and then some. I don't know if her doctor didn't see the need for her to go to therapy, if she went and lied in order to get the surgery, or what.
chopitychopchop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's run of the mill non compliance of a bariatric patient. Whether it's a gastric band or otherwise ... not that uncommon.
myBisL2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:04:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is shockingly common. I know a number of people who had weight loss surgery, including stomach stapling and all that, who gained it all back by slowly stretching out there stomachs again. The stomach is not a plastic box, it does stretch to accommodate the food.
Bobcatluv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:10:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's food addiction, which is very much like any other substance addiction, except you obviously need some food to live. To be honest, it pisses me off when people make fun of the weight loss surgery/gastric lot (which I don't think you're doing, by the way.) For many, the weight has gotten to a point that it's interfering in having a normal life.
If someone is willing to get surgery to stop stuffing their gullet, that is very concerning-even if our society has normalized it. Wouldn't you think it was strange if smokers started getting their hands sewn together to stop them from smoking cigarettes?
myBisL2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't make any judgments on it but I always think your chance of long term success is significantly lower if you think it will solve all your problems without any work to change your habits.
I know people who had surgery and it was just an aid to help them make life changes and they were successful, and good for them for committing to changing their habits. But yeah, when you really think about it the entire concept of weight loss surgery is kind of fucked up.
IMakeRandomNoises ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:54:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone really trying to get accepted for gastric surgery this shit pisses me off so much...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, my sister had someone in her class who had had four lap band surgeries. The woman kept going on about how "they never work" but would scoff down so much food during breaks. What a waste of the surgeon's and the doctor's time.
panda_nectar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you describing lap band surgery?
Grogeba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe so, going off of how the comments have described it using that term.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the lap band operation and one of the reasons why it isn't a very good choice for Bariatric surgery.
UberUSB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who did this. We stopped eating with him, mostly because he'd take ages eating. A 20 minutes meal turned to almost 2 hours, till he was able to stuff it monstrously again.
And he had a heart attack and is dead. No wonder why.
norsish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There really is no substitute for willpower, no matter what they tell you.
dragoongirl1990 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:48:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is called a lap band. And it's a terrible idea all around. It's basically forced anorexia and the health ramifications even when people don't do the horrible idiocy you described are just so not worth it.
Grogeba ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:00:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, much obliged. Forgot the proper term.
StefwithanF ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:13:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gives patients mental illness?
dragoongirl1990 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you clarify that?
My_Name_Is_Pearl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:03:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anorexia is a mental illness. You said that the lap band forces people to get anorexia.
dragoongirl1990 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you choose to use a device that MAKES you not eat just to lose weight, that's anorexia. Just because you aren't not eating simply with willpower doesn't mean it's not anorexia.
My_Name_Is_Pearl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're making it seem like the procedure sews your mouth shut so you literally cannot eat.
It's designed to make you feel full faster. Some people's stomachs are stretched out so big that they aren't satisfied unless they eat huge portions. So, if someone is used to eating 3 burgers, fries, nuggets and a large coke in one sitting, they'll now feel that 1 burger, fries and a medium coke is enough. If they want to continue to eat past that point, they can- but they'll feel like crap trying to stuff more food in themselves.
dragoongirl1990 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's still anorexia. And I'm done talking about it. Good bye.
StefwithanF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure! Lapbands are a surgical procedure. Anorexia nervosa is a mental illness that presents by primarily restricted caloric intake, urges for control, & a BMI under 18 (underweight). Typically, mental illnesses are not surgically implanted.
dragoongirl1990 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:46 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're an idiot. Good bye.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Grogeba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..........wut.
mdp300 ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 00:57:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dentist here. I have a couple.
One lady came in with a rubber band stuck between her back teeth. She had a piece of food or something that she couldn't get out with floss, so she thought a rubber band would work better.
Another time, a kid came in with a toothache. Everything seemed ok, couldn't find any source of pain. I ask if anything hot or cold makes it hurt, and he said "it hurts a little if I rinse out with Coke."
I turned to his dad and said NEVER DO THAT EVER AGAIN! it's the only time I actually shouted at someone. His dad also asked for vicodin for his son. Who was 4 years old. I told him no. He's 4. Give him advil. I'm pretty sure he wanted the pain meds for himself.
rigred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And here I was thinking it was Coca Cola....
mdp300 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:18:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No actually it was coca cola.
Which will literally dissolve your teeth if you soak your mouth with it all day.
glim10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:19:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... that's what I was assuming... Please tell me he didn't wash a 4 year olds mouth with drugs..
TheSoulOfTheRose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:15:52 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you really that stupid?
SnArL817 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:42 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't Mike Myers do a similar bit on SNL?
"We're British. We brush our teeth with sugar!"
bobyd ยท 381 points ยท Posted at 21:41:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend nurse told me that an old man was prescribed suppositories for something he had. Couple of days later he came back feeling worse and said the tablets were not doing anything, yep, he was eating them. He had to be explained that suppositories are PR.
JoffreysDyingBreath ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 22:55:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In pharmacy... We have to tell people to take off the foil for suppositories...
Wayward-Soul ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ouch
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:44:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it's okay to not know how to put things in your butt
rigred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Butt among redditors i'm pretty sure everyone knows all too well ;)
NobleServant ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:35:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why labels need to spell it out nice and clear.
Gave an old guy antibiotics for his dog's ear infection a few years back. He rang us a week later to ask what to do when you couldn't fit any more tablets down the ear...
OSUJillyBean ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 01:35:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor dog. :(
samkostka ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:58:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck yeah, suppositories should have labels with big block letters saying "UNWRAP AND SHOVE UP ASS TWICE DAILY"
No but seriously, better labeling would go a long way in medicine.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doggo no :( Why are people so fucking stupid?
Sam-Gunn ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:20:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can just imagine the instructions. "Ok, you have TWO holes for your digestive tract. Put them into the one without teeth... Not your nose, I mean your asshole!"
Gonzobot ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:09:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pr?
neonbeef ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:22:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Per rectum
bobyd ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:41:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
per rectum, you are supposed to put suppositories up your bum
alficles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So far, so good. The homeless guy is mad, though, so what's next?
CatOfGrey ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:58:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's Dad. Nurse asks him if he's taking the suppositories. Dad deadpans "You think I've been stickin' 'em up my ass?" Nurse damn near fainted.
gsbadj ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:24:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let me guess, when he came back the first time, he told you, "Doc, for all the good they did me, I could have shoved them up my ass."
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:07:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:15 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was Tony Abbott, one of the stupider politicians out there...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What am I supposed to do, shove them up my ass?!
IVotedForClayDavis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:33:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah, I've been taking the tablets. But for all the good they've done me, I may as well have stuck them up my arse!"
- Old joke I was told years ago.
fanamana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Doc, these damn pills you gave me couldn't have been any less effective, I might as well have been shoving up my bum! "
cloud3321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait? You aren't supposed to eat suppositories? Aren't you supposed to eat it with supper? Hence the name.
HaloGeekster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL what a suppository is. This is why I enjoy reading posts like these; You just might learn something.
RJB5584 ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 23:58:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Is it true you can give yourself Hep C?"
No.
"It's cool; I just share syringes with my spouse/partner/lover. We're in a monogamous relationship, so we're safe."
No, you're not.
Both of these are extremely common where I work, but it surprised me when I first started.
JagoKestral ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:03:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorant question here about the second one.
Is not being safe meant as in you can't know if your partner is doing this with others, or as in there are risks people don't realize exist that aren't limited to diseases?
RJB5584 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:27:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both, actually.
If you're reusing syringes, it increases your risk of abscesses--which, by the way, can be fatal if left untreated or treated improperly. Syringes are meant to be used once, then thrown away. Thrown away, by the way, in a hard plastic container (ie, sharps, bleach bottle, hell--even a soda bottle), not a soda can or just breaking the tip off.
JagoKestral ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:39:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, I never even knew abscesses existed until now, and what they were until my subsequent googling and reading, haha.
It seems like there's always more to something than what movies and shows will show you! (Because quite frankly, it's not like I'm learning this sort of thing from school.)
RJB5584 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad it proved useful! Stay sharp! ๐
trwwyco ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:53:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sharp enough to lance an abscess
UndeadKitten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:45:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom used to reuse her insulin syringes. (She never shared them, she just reused the same one for a week or so)
I hated it, I was convinced she would end up with infections but she managed to avoid them. And six months was all she was on insulin, she got her diabetes back under control after that.
RJB5584 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Increasing the risk of abscesses != will get abscesses
Some people have stronger immune systems than others, and abscesses can occur for any number of reasons.
I'm glad to hear she's in better health!
UndeadKitten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... she's dead now. But yeah, she got into pretty good health until the sneaky colon cancer. Clean colonoscopy, then 5 months later stage 4.
She died on the table having the tumor removed. Fuck cancer.
I got abscesses in my jaw sometimes, although knock on wood I haven't had one since I got a root canal done on my worst tooth. I swear those were the worst pain I ever endured. Taught me what the 10 on the scale was, and made me realize why some people commit suicide over chronic pain. I considered it until someone turned me on to a low income dental clinic.
RJB5584 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:13:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had someone come to our clinic who said "I've been shot, stabbed, blown up, set on fire, and electrocuted. Nothing compares to an abscess."
UndeadKitten ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:15:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can believe it. I'd been stabbed and broken bones and it didn't compare to my jaw abscesses.
And the fucked up thing was, I got turned away from the UC twice because I was "obviously drug seeking" and finally a doctor gave me like six narcotic pills and some antibiotics.
I took two pills, and by then the antibiotics had kicked in enough that I could just have ibuprofen and it was enough. Antibiotics are an amazing discovery, and I never quite appreciated them to the extent they deserve until that experience.
eta: I went in asking for them to do something for me and got treated like shit. I didn't go asking for the pain pills, I wanted something that would fix it, not just mask it. Shocked I have a liver tbh, stepmom pretty much force fed me alcohol until I got the decent doctor because it actually gave some relief and when drunk all I could do was cry, I couldn't try harming myself.
Took me to age 27 to realize that alcohol has pain relieving properties though. Is that a "I can't believe an adult doesn't know this?" fact?
NeuroTrip ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:29:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people don't realize you can get hep c from just sharing spoons etc. Its sad how avoidable the problem could be :(
RJB5584 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:32:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anything, really. Sharing a tie, cotton, alcohol pad...anything used in IV use can be a source of transmission.
Thank you for pointing out this important fact!
sexheadisalreadytook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course you can give yourself Hep C.
By reusing needles/utensils used by someone with Hep C. </troll>
KyExodus ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 01:32:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes you can give yourself hep C. There are plenty of IV drug users that have gotten it by reuse of a syringe for a long period of time
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:17:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an infection. It has to come from someone else. It does not spontaneously occur in the body.
RJB5584 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:43:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Care to cite some sources? Because no, you can't.
You can get it by reusing a syringe that someone else has, but you can't give yourself a virus you don't already have.
KyExodus ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 02:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both hep B and C can be contracted from reuse. A little understanding of microbiology would help before you are too lazy to Google next time...
everything_is_still ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:23:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably only downvote someone six times a year or so but this is so patently stupid you earned the first one of 2017. Mostly because you tried to call upon the powers of microbiology to reinforce your doctrine of Spontaneous Generation, which hasn't been a thing since the microscope and possibly before.
KyExodus ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 03:31:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spontaneous generation is a myth. But the fact that EBV causing hepatitis renders your point moot. Would hate to see the discount university your degree comes from.
EinsteinNeverWoreSox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:40:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which does yours come from?
everything_is_still ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:53:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EBV doesn't cause hep c, and neither does reusing old rigs, which is the same thing as spontaneous generation. i admire you for sticking to your guns though, even if it is a blunderbuss.
RJB5584 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:16:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Likewise. You can't contract a virus without exposure to the virus.
baropen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:36:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope u/KyExodus is just trolling. But if not, at least you have a good story next time someone asks this question. facepalm
KyExodus ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 02:01:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.cdc.gov/injectionsafety/patients/syringereuse_faqs.html
RJB5584 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:10:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, reusing syringes that have previously been used by someone who has HCV.
Read the first paragraph on the CDCs page on HCV specifically.
KyExodus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reread it. It says most. I'm not arguing spontaneous infection, yes you have to be exposed to HVC to contract the disease but it doesn't have to come from other people the virus can live outside of the body incapuslated for long peoids of time. It is not necessarily from other people
MonkBoughtLunch ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:09:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But... if it lives outside the body... where do you think it came from before it got outside the body?
everything_is_still ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:55:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you're literally arguing spontaneous infection if you're saying it doesn't come from other people.
RJB5584 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That part is true. Unlike HIV, HCV can last a very long time outside the body.
Still, HCV doesn't simply appear. Someone needs to have left contaminated material, and then introduce that to their own blood. That's not the same thing as "giving yourself HCV". That's more like someone's actions leading to an HCV infection.
KyExodus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EBV can also lead to hepatitis. It's fairly common too
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The CDC clearly calls it a CONTAGIOUS virus under the "what is Hep C" section. Meaning it requires transmission.
TiffanyBee ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 23:42:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor yet, but I've had to explain to my 33-year-old roommate that she needs to wash her hands with soap every single time after she uses the bathroom. She'd turn on the faucet for about 1 second to "wash". Her wonderful methods have led to a light switch with blood stains on it, after she was changing her pad.
lllola ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:32:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is absolutely horrifyingly disgusting. I hope you have separate bathrooms.
TiffanyBee ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:20:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We share. I gave her a pamphlet from the hospital on how to properly wash your hands. She kind of listened.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TiffanyBee ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:22:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's kind enough to offer me food she cooks, but I politely decline every time. She's not a great cook. I recently taught her how to avoid your pot from boiling over. Hints: don't put a lid on it if you don't need to. Don't have the temp @ high. Don't mess around on your computer & forget that you have something on the stove.
Rising_Swell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1 second? Like wtf is even the point? If you are going to have it on for 1 second just dont wash at all, makes no difference
TiffanyBee ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:24:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to call her out on not washing her hands after she took out the trash. She just doesn't believe it's necessary to use soap all the time. Thinks it's American culture vs. Chinese culture. NO SWEETIE, IT'S SCIENCE VS. SAVAGERY.
cornicat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:54:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you offered hand sanitiser? Maybe she won't have quite as much trouble grasping the need, plus it's not nearly as much effort as washing your hands.
TiffanyBee ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't, but I have given her a pamphlet from the hospital on the importance of hand washing. Confronted her about it too. Its my belief that despite her degree in chemical engineering, she doesn't understand the basic mechanics of germs i.e. they're everywhere. The period thing was bad, but in second place, we've got her daily morning routine: urinate, flush, no hand washing, puts makeup on face in bathroom. DIRECT FINGERS TOUCHING FACE. AHH the horror.
AKAlicious ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:00:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did the host mom to an international student thing for a semester. Well, it was a Chinese student, and the experience was exactly as you described - no understanding of germs and a limited understanding of personal hygiene. I am very germ-conscious, so it was a miserable experience. When he left I sanitized everything, and burned sage, for my own mental comfort! (Good kid, but couldn't understand germs). Edit: NEVER AGAIN!
TiffanyBee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you talk to him about washing his hands?? Or personal hygiene? The stories I have on my roommate are endless. They're a mixture of hilarity & appalling behavior.
AKAlicious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:54 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did, many times. But I was, I believe, dealing with an additional issue - I think he is high-functioning autistic. That would fly under the radar in China. He just had a really hard time learning new skills, even when he wanted to.
TiffanyBee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:22 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh I see. Not much you can do there. My roommate is not on the spectrum, she's just really clueless & stupid.
AKAlicious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:16 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not much you can do with that either. :D
guacamoleo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:09:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it's way better to rinse than to not wash at all. (The death rate of new mothers went waaaay down when the doctors delivering babies started washing their hands with only water vs not washing between patients.) But 1 second isn't even a rinse.
TiffanyBee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I concur, but no exaggeration, she used to rinse her hands for exactly 1 second & I'm not even sure she fully submerged both hands. The faucet would turn on as fast as it turned off. Since having a talk with her, it's much longer, but I'm convinced she only washes her hands with soap when she knows I'm home.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a dunce.
hockeypup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ewww
runnertrish ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 01:12:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One patient said she didn't know if she was taking the birth control pills right. She would take one in a day for her, then the next day her boyfriend would take one, then the next day she would take one, and so on..
akikarulestheworld ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least she asked?
IveSeenYouB4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt that really bad for males?
EinsteinNeverWoreSox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:02:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's mostly just female hormones. Estrogen, etc. Which yes, they CAN be bad, but only if you like being masculine as fuck.
incipit-satan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better teach her how to take them properly. God forbid those two reproduce.
TheFett ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:15:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I see this a lot in nursing:
Patient is overeating--> "Please stop overeating!" --> No.
Patient is now obese--> "Stop overeating, lose weight!"--> No.
Patient now has Type II Diabetes--> "Follow a diabetic diet!"--> No.
Patient now requires painful saphenous vein bypass surgery--> "Stop smoking and eating sugar!"--> No.
Patient now has End Stage Renal Disease and requires dialysis 3x a week.--> (If she wants to kill herself, let her)--> Patient blames nursing staff for incompetence.
kddem ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:47:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an EMT in the ER, had a patient who's mom dropped him off while he was overdosed on heroin. He detoxed and was fine and ready to be sent home but his mom couldn't come get him and he didn't have any money to get a cab home. So his mom told him to tell the ER staff that he was suicidal and that we would have to let him stay the night and then he could go to an inpatient rehab in the morning. Cliff hanger is if you are detoxed and sober and say you're suicidal we have to keep you on a mandatory 3 day hold
promiseimnotonreddit ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a 5150 was probably the best thing that could happen to him.
Photonanc6 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 04:13:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Attorney, not a doctor. Had mother on child support docket who wanted a maternity test.
RDF50 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:14:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I studied really hard!
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Are you sure it's mine?"
Photonanc6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
;-)
Sitthakim ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 06:19:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When i was in Ob/Gyn training one of our attendings told this story: new patient to his practice came in complaining of a vaginal discharge. She wouldn't tell the admitting nurse any other details. When the doc performed the exam he found that her labia were sewn closed with black thread. When he removed the thread to perform an internal exam he found a shredded dishcloth. The patient refused to answer any questions.
PinkMini72 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:55:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is just so sad.
[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 10:02:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her lips were sealed
moxiered ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:39:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddammit. Take all my upvotes
moxiered ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:38:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
May I ask where this was? It sounds like female circumcision:<
Sitthakim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wilmington, NC
nemo_sum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's 8am, and just like that, I'm done with Reddit for the day.
chemwhizzz47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit balls. O.O
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wat
[deleted] ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 23:26:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacy here - we have to ask very specific questions to patients' parents about how they are storing the meds. One time a family told us they keep the liquid amoxicillin in the freezer and then every time it is needed, they microwave it. Liquid Amoxicillin should just be stored in the fridge without the need to reheat. I always wonder if they saw the Celsius on the bottle and thought 'oh that's fucking cold better make it into ice cubes!'
meatloaf_again ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:35:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I could make amoxicillian popsicles, I might get my kiddo to take the medication. I think they're on to something here!
divajedi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:33:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bubblegum flavor doesn't work?? I loved that shit when I was a kid, especially because I wasn't allowed to chew gum. When I got strep throat as an adult I asked my primary if it was a viable option, she laughed and told me I would have to go through multiple bottles over the course of treatment to get the amounts I needed.
hubife13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol wow a whole pharmacy!
pmabz ยท 1187 points ยท Posted at 20:02:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is a doctor. Says that gynocologists, when interviewing a couple who can't get pregnant, start off by checking they are using the right hole. Often they're going for the belly button. Can any gynos confirm?
yosol ยท 713 points ยท Posted at 20:32:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, that's why I love gynos. They have the best stories. As a GP who has a lot of Gynecology friends/colleagues, those stories tend to be true the further away you are from civilization/libraries/internet access.
darktask ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:13:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell us some!
roguevirus ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 00:03:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not OP, but a Navy Corpsman I'm friends with had to give an Afghan soldier the birds and the bees talk after we found out that he couldn't get his wife pregnant after a year of trying. Poor dude was the laughing stock of his family.
Turns out the reason was because he kept putting it up her ass. When told about vaginal intercourse, his reaction was along the lines of "But that thing BLEEDS!"
[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 00:05:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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PaulMcGannsShoes ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:15:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One man's treasure...
TheCynicPress ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:07:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could be a woman's shit hole :|
gerbilwhisperer ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 00:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really, how can other mammals figure it out?
UrethraX ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:40:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Animals don't worry about helping the slow, unfortunately we do
falcongsr ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:52:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man this explains a lot.
iznotiz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:18:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure that he managed to make his wife bleed either way.
[deleted] ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 00:46:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheVentiLebowski ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:23:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Made me think of an old Saturday Night Live skit. Can't find the clip, but here's the gist of it:
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/91/91qtaysters3.phtml
Edit: SNL has every skit from that episode on their website ... except the Spermicidal Jelly one.
Ariadnepyanfar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my universe I'm dying. I've never heard these two fuck ups before.
Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"That Kentucky Jelly tastes awful!"
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 02:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bullshit.
Contraceptive pills would dissolve inside the vagina. In fact, for women who have trouble swallowing pills, or when you need to take a birth control pill, but are sick and vomiting, they can be stuck inside the vagina near the cervix.
saraoflaherty ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:41:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Extensive Google search shows only one formulation has been shown to work like this effectively. I would NOT randomly attempt this on your own.
TheTartanDervish ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:47:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So in 2004 I'm a Corporal and since I enlisted later in life, and had deployed a couple times with my Marines, and I'm female so they'll talk to me about stuff they don't want their guys to know... I had a fair number of uncertain young men ask me for help with personal stuff.
One day one of the Lances walks in and asks if he can talk about a marriage problem. No worries, let's head outside and discuss.
Turns out he's from rural Mexico originally and his wife has just arrived from even more rural Mexico. They want to have kids but they're concerned about a couple things:
if she's on top, does the sperm fall out? (no, it swims, don't worry)
if he's on top, does that guarantee a son? (never thought my education in medieval history would prove useful in helping my Lances - this has an interesting royal backstory that's turned into a surpisingly durable myth but no, position has nothing to do with it, it's your sperm decides for you)
does she need to douche with cola to prevent a pregnancy? (I try very hard not to clench my legs at the idea of such hideous yeast infections before walking him down to the Corpsman for some condoms and birth control pamphlets)
There were some other really sad ones from Iraq, eg one of the local women and I became friends and she came into our clinic for "burns" . It turned out she had pelvic inflammatory disease and some sadistic arsewad of an old wife had rubbed heated glass shards all over her abdomen to "burn out the disease" - the scarring was ungodly. She was so embarrassed that she got conned that she couldn't face the locals' clinic and was pretty oozy from infection by the time we got her sorted out. :(
darktask ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:55:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG.
I'm not usually one to say this - but thank you for your service, if only for that last lady. You must have been her saviour
TheTartanDervish ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of you to say - it was my work and I was trying to do it well - that's definitely not in the training though, so I hope doing my best to be human worked.
Turbo_monkey_slut ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:37:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gods that's terrible. And I second thanking you for your service.
TheTartanDervish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kind of you to say, Marines take care of each other so I was just glad he felt okay to ask me and I could sort it out for them.
cousinlazlo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:13:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is the medieval backstory?
TheTartanDervish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Henry VIII mostly, and a few other less-than-stellar thinkers.
faithlessdisciple ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:51:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Best/worst I heard from mine was a couple who'd been trying to get pregnant for 30 plus years of very painful sex.
Turns out he was some how boning her in her urethral opening.
artd_echo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:43:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wtf
faithlessdisciple ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:59:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me about it. Poor woman had lived with constant infection too. Wasn't one of his patients. No way he'd have not had a good look to see what was going on. Dude saved my life. 3 times.
Also has a wicked and very dry wit. I guess you'd have to, working with all that dampness and all.
jonloovox ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:12:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually good urethral sex porn
YourGirlGracie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hook me up.
jonloovox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NSFW http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1402635003
jonloovox ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:12:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually good urethral sex porn
jonloovox ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 02:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's actually good urethral sex porn
faithlessdisciple ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:21:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Given how much damage that does? There is no such thing. Dude. I'm not looking up your sub commenting history.
IFreakinLovePi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ex's mother was an OBGYN. Can confirm after many awkward dinner conversation topics that I'm no longer awkward about.
themannamedme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:48:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please do tell.
JamesTiberiusChirp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:08:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sad because it means we are not educating women about reproduction.
CritFailingLife ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:24:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes a lot of sense. My partner and I live in a major metropolitan, highly educated area (also not very religious and with sex education that actually addresses penises and vaginas in our schools) and when we went to a doctor for fertility issues they never asked if we knew how to have sex, they just got straight to the testing.
kellydean1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:41:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to know this chick that told me that she recognized her gynecologist at a party she was attending. She said she went up to him and asked him if he recognized her. Doc apparently said that he did not. She raised her skirt (she liked to go commando) and asked him, "how about now?" I want so much to believe that this is true.
differentiallity ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:45:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a common thing to happen (healthcare providers claiming to not recognize you) due to HIPAA. That's what they teach you. If you recognize one of your patients in public, you can't go say hi and draw attention to the fact that you know them. Seems weird but you have to CYA.
The part about the skirt sounds fabricated.
kellydean1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It did to me too, but knowing this chick like I did, it wouldn't surprise me. This has been a LONG time ago (20 years maybe), so way before HIPAA.
differentiallity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, HIPAA was enacted in August of 1996 and 20 years ago was 1996... Shit that doesn't seem right.
Edit: Damn, it's 2017 not 2016, so 20 years ago was 1997. Still getting used to it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:04:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I look at them
LetterSwapper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Toll Ride.
Springwood_Slasher ยท 492 points ยท Posted at 20:34:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Only if their girlfriend Lisa is tearing them apart.
[deleted] ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 21:42:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hi Mark
badrussiandriver ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:45:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, hai Mark.
NobilisUltima ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:52:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha ha, what a story Mark!
findingscarlet ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:38:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
O hai doggie here's a twenty keep the change!
FinAdartse ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:58:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God, the flashbacks. Why? WHY?!
Dzjill ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:58:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, LISA!
[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 21:22:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're my favorite customer!
Wheredoesthetoastgo2 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:49:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The other, less favorite customers then tore the store apart in a jealous riot. Doggie was killed in the melee.
SeanBC ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:41:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I rarely see people quoting the rifftrax. This made my day.
_PM_ME_GFUR_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Room! HE'S TEARING IT APART!
SosX ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:19:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
O hai
DemonDuckOfDoom1 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:31:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Because that movie is fantastic.
Evolving_Dore ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:33:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's not true.
It's naaaaaaat.
WeirdStray ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyway, how's your sex life?
Kwyjibo68 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hip dick!
LettuceWouldntFit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You deserve gold
Springwood_Slasher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:D
[deleted] ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 20:54:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'll NEVER get the lint out when it's encrusted in old semen.
Viperbunny ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:41:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This statement will haunt my nightmares.
HoodedPotato ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 20:42:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does he even fit in her belly button? That sounds really gross!
Donames_Evenmatter ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 21:02:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are you talking about
Mine fits perfectly
Djugdish ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:16:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...and I bet she's an outie.
PM_ME_DANK_MEMESS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
*he's
casparh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
D:
SuperCrusader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guys...Should we tell him?
darkforcedisco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's because she's a virgin, wow, you're rude. He hasn't broken her hymen yet.
crielan ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:31:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of disgusting you ever seen a girl with an outie. Yuck.
NiDonnaNaiz ยท 302 points ยท Posted at 20:41:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend is pulling your leg. I'm a nurse practitioner and have worked in very underdeveloped areas of the world - people are often ignorant/uneducated not mentally retarded.
PurpleAntifreeze ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 21:41:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, well I've worked in clinics in the US at universities and many of these college girls don't realize they have two holes downstairs in the front, and that tampons and penises (penii?) only go in one of them. One couple in the Pacific NW had to be referred to a surgeon to fix the damage they did trying to have intercourse through her urethra. These were middle class kids who had graduated high school and had access to the internet. They were fucking retarded, and they were fucking all retarded-like. The sheer number of girls who forgot to remove a tampon and wondered why they smelled like death was...too high. I don't do that kind of work anymore because the stupid was too overwhelming.
kjata ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:00:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Penises" is indeed correct. You can go with "penes" also, for reasons related to Latin declension, but it's uncommon.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:38:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love to eat penne with tomato sauce
I_AM_TARA ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 22:27:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay to be fair, diagrams on female anatomy down there are pretty useless.
So I knew about the urethra, but always assumed it emptied out like near the bottom the vagina. The diagrams always showed a gaping hole as the urethra, so I just assumed the distance between the two was exaggerated.
The tampon one though, there's no excuse. It even says on the box to replace every x hours or else you'll die of TSS.
NiDonnaNaiz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:32:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying that people aren't grossly ignorant. I have seen the same things you've seen. What I am saying is that hole "wrong whole" thing does not happen left and right. Even ignorant thoroughly stupid people can figure out how to fuck. Sex is instinctual. Animals do it without instruction. As much as birth control, personal hygiene, anatomy should be common sense, they are not inherent. There is not an epidemic of idiot couples not using the correct holes.
Edit: sweet Jesus, I typed "hole" and "whole" in wrong place. Leaving it and putting that English degree to good use! Also, I'm a nurse practitioner - I just happen to have English degree. I'm not traveling the world as an English teacher doing sex research.
Sam-Gunn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
[removed due to lack of reading comprehension ability]
Oxytocic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
''downstairs IN THE FRONT'' Someone can't read
fluffless ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 in the front, 1 in the rear
Sam-Gunn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
whoops, gotta read that stuff more carefully.
sedaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you decided you were actually speaking latin, then 'penes'. If you are speaking English, then 'penises'.
supapro ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 21:14:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's your answer. Normal people in underdeveloped areas? Probably fine putting 2 and 2 together. Obese people with abnormal anatomy in developed countries with poor sex ed? Suddenly there's a lot more terrain to get lost in.
[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 22:56:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I think I'm fucking your boobs..."
"No, honey, that feels like my front two fat rolls."
"No, hang on a moment, your back fat shifted forwards."
"Oh shit, you're right. Grab a fold and just...rotate it back."
TheWorldConqueror ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:37:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to ask why you made me read this, but your username clarifies quite a bit. Thanks.
AnticPosition ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like, because they're obese?
luckierbridgeandrail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Waitโฆ I only have one. What's wrong with me?
ezekiellake ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:03:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you'll find the "navel fuckers" population is found at the Venn intersection of "no library/internet access" and "not a farming community" and "strongly religious community"
If you have no internet or library, but you work on a farm then I imagine you have an idea of the mechanics and can extrapolate ...
Lotharofthepotatoppl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, we have the bible belt over here, so I wouldn't think it's impossible for people to know nothing about sex.
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ignorant and the retarded often have the same beliefs because they don't know better the only difference is for one that can be fixed
supertucci ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:07:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can confirm as a urologist that rarely there are reports of people putting penis in the urethra instead of vagina ("sex is painful, doctor"). Didn't quite believe it until I met a couple who unknowingly did this . Her urethra was dilated up, "patulous" and clearly showing signs this had happened. Speechless
why-wont-you-loveme ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds incredibly, incredibly painful! Plus, the urethra is quite small, is that even physically possible?
supertucci ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:44 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wondered just HOW it was possible. Seems like it would hurt too much. But there's patients in textbooks who clearly managed it. Never really believed it until my patient came in with same thing
BLMdidHarambe ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:22:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is ludicrous.
paigezero ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 20:31:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Imma put a baby in yer belly!"
ProspectDikadu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:29:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:47:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Way back in med school days, I read a paper on fertility issues in the BMJ. They mentioned one of the problems was "umbilical sex." I never got around to clarifying that phrase but it stuck with me ever since.
EDIT: Found it.
supertucci ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:07 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok you taught this urologist a new one. "Umbilical sex". Sheesh
WorstWarriorNA ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:33:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would expect "Are you making sure to not use birth control?" Would be the 1st question...
salty-lemons ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:23:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I had to have this conversation as we were having trouble getting pregnant. I asked what the craziest thing the doctor had heard and she said she never had anything crazy but some people are using lube that has spermicide in it. The other thing she would hear is that couples don't realize a woman can only get pregnant 3-5 days per cycle and the couple would often start off the month strong with sex right after her period and then taper off by mid-cycle when she was actually ovulating, essentially using the rhythm method of birth control. I sure do wish that had been my issue, alas.
ShackledPhoenix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our gyns had both the best and the grossest stories.... The stuff people get up to with their/their wife's vaginas.
renegade1488 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to someone I knew at medical school sitting in on fertility clinic, Somali couple were struggling to conceive and it transpired the man was spilling his seed on his wife's belly because 'that's where the baby would grow'
SillyFlyGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong hole means anal sex. No sex ed means you don't exactly know what goes where. And yes, that's a thing.
mole_of_dust ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is also a gyno. Best story: a woman used a potato to keep her prolapsing uterus in. Why did she come to the doctor? Because she "had green plants a-growin".
slightlyamused1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Often is definitely an overstatement. I would assume more often than not it's that it's just difficult for one or both of them to have a child. Pretty rare that an adult doesn't know the difference between an abdomen and genitals.
fountainofMB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:54:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my husband and I went to a fertility doctor one of the first questions was if we were having vaginal sex. Seemed weird at the time but I figured they must have to ask everything to confirm.
reaperteddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. A colleague of mine worked at family planning and discussed this exact situation - she was new and failed to ask that question until the sixth session. The couple genuinely thought they had to get semen in the belly button. Once she cleared that up, they had no problem conceiving. Now she asks that question first.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:58:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is worth nothing that there is at least one case of a woman getting pregnant as a result of a man ejaculating on her belly.
Sperm are mobile little fuckers.
-FeistyRabbitSauce- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:08:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like, ejaculating in/on her belly button?
These people are too stupid to breed more people.
zero_dgz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:19:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, why would we encourage them?
RobPhanDamn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No! I'm not sure why you haven't gotten pregnant yet. Keep on tryin!"
finallyinfinite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck
Herb_Kazzaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wtf?
mattski96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If they are using the wrong hole it seems like it would be more likely that it is the urethra
rennez77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who went through fertility treatment, I have to tell you the docs never asked us that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as someone who is trying to get pregnant, gynocologists do not ask "are you putting it in the right hole." when you go in saying you ae having trouble conceiving. your friend is fucking with you.
embur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well you want to put the baby in the belly, after all.
reptillianphone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Erm no, I've been to many gynos about fertility issues and none have asked that question. Wow I'd hate to live in the area where that question is necessary.
LionsDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Might be related to this guy: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oldest-f-word_us_55f65a3fe4b063ecbfa4b9d6
creepysnowflake ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 03:35:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ot a doctor, but I worked customer service at a hospital and had a woman of about 23 come in with her mom for severe stomach pains. She'd tried drinking Pepto but it just didn't help. Mom was waiting in the waiting room when a nurse came out and had this conversation: Nurse: ma'am I don't mean to offend you but I have to ask this..Is your daughter slow...Like, in the head? Mom: No! She's real smart. She even went to college an everything. N: well, we figured out what was wrong with her. She's having a baby. M: No, she ain't pregnant. N: ma'am I don't know what to tell you because she's having a baby. Like the baby is coming out...Now. we've tried to explain this to her, but she doesn't believe us. We'd like your help to convince her. M: you mean, like she's having a baby right now? N: yes ma'am she is in labor. Right Now.
TLDR: woman was in labor, refused to believe the nurses. She was possibly slow...Like in the head.
jhn107 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had something similar happen when I was a landlord. A woman with mild mental retardation moved in with her boyfriend. Then she began gaining weight and showing all the outward symptoms of pregnancy. No matter how many people told her she was pregnant she didn't believe them. I finally had to call her social worker who took her to the doctor to confirm it. Later that day, she came into my office and told me she was changing social workers because the one she had was an "idiot liar." When she went into labor, I called an ambulance for her. She was going to wait and see her regular doctor but I convinced her it was an emergency. I told the paramedics the situation and asked that they relate it to the doctor. Not sure what she did at the hospital but it was enough to get her institutionalized.
Seicair ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:09:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That went from "geez..." to "What the FUCK" in a hurry.
adalida ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Birth can be really traumatic when you're prepared and excited for it. I can't imagine what it would do to your head if, in your perspective, you got suddenly and violently ill and then randomly shat out a fully-formed, 7-pound person.
DeadDollKitty ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:18:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happened to a family friend. She went in for severe abdominal cramps and ended up giving birth. She never knew she was pregnant because she (at about 5"7') never got above 115lbs, and was an avid cocaine and meth user. Kid came out surprisingly healthy, though she looks like she sucked up any abnormality the kid could've had :/
pi123263 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you lost this N while writing.
[deleted] ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 22:00:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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um_hi_there ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 23:03:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or she just didn't want to have to use that card in a game with her boyfriend's parents and 14-year-old brother? I just wonder if that was the case.
jinxandrisks ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 23:21:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tbh she'd have to discard most cards then
um_hi_there ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:24:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay. This is true, good point!
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:43:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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roguevirus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe she knows what it is, but doesn't know the name for it? Like I know I have a bone in my left pinky finger, but I have no idea what it's medical name is.
Rydralain ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:05:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a fake Internet doctor, I name it george.
stackered ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 22:21:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tell your brother to teach her
unless he can't find it (๏ปฟ อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 22:32:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never understood this thing about not being able to find the clitoris. When I lost my V-card I thought "oh! It right there, can't miss it!"
stackered ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:46:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah me neither, the clitoris found me ;)
mattstreet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:52:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people talk about this it still rarely comes up, but you know there is actually a lot of it internally as well? Kinda of a wishbone shape surrounding the vagina.
Edit: One of many interesting links on the subject: http://www.museumofsex.com/the-internal-clitoris/
Abananafoesail ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 06:59:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Moreso surrounding the "button" of the clitoris.
mattstreet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really sure what you mean by that.
Abananafoesail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The clitoris part that is internal and unseen doesn't surround the vagina, it surrounds the vulva.
mattstreet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it could be argued that it's under the vulva and surrounds the beginning of the vagina? Seems like it could be a perspective thing? Pictures and descriptions in all these links.
dude_icus ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:41:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly, even if you found the clitoris on your body either through masturbation, sex, or accident, you wouldn't automatically know the name for it. Except for maybe "fun button."
Vaderesque ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:49:40 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AKA 'The Man In the Boat'...
goodtimebutterfly ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:27:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ayy lmao
CritFailingLife ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:08:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We always just explain things to people who don't get them when we play. Mom disapproved of road head because it's not safe, but loudly proclaimed "I like tentacle porn" when we questioned her choice of winner (because everyone else thought another answer was better), but she was amused by the way it sounded even after we explained what it was. We do have a rule that you can ask for someone else to say the words for you if you're uncomfortable because mom likes using cards she refuses to say. Dad has no problem saying any card and only gets explanations afterwards, which sometimes causes him to blush and say "..oh" and launch into what he assumed it must mean.
stink3rbelle ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:49:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to school your brother, or link him to something that will school him. Then tell him to make sure he's touching it in a way she enjoys, and to sometime ask her if she "likes it when he touches her clitoris." Please.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:54:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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neccoguy21 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
/u/stink3rbelle is waiting for the results. Fervently.
AutStuff ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TBH, I didn't know what a clitoris was until I read "The Color Purple" senior year of high school. I'm Female and my parents where forthcoming about sex-ed, it just never came up. In "Health" class my sophomore yr we just talked about the reproductive bits.
sig863 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have a different rule in my group of friends. If you don't know what something is, you have to look it up on Urban Dictionary.
It's lead to some hilarious interactions.
friend picks up card cunnilingus...
friend picks up phone
types
reads
looks up What the hell is an Australian kiss?
everybody wha...? OH!
New__Math ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:02:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's the message that we deliver to little kids And expect them not to know what a woman's clitoris is Of course they gonna know what intercourse is By the time they hit fourth grade They got the Discovery Channel, don't they?
NONEOFTHISISCANON ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit your brother is dating a fighter jet?
valiantfreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she was born female but now she identifies as a fighter jet
NONEOFTHISISCANON ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's my fetish
Paradox2063 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Our rule is you can ditch cards you don't know, but you have to announce that and suffer through an explanation.
ballacityusa12 ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 01:41:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but my friend is. This is one of my favorite stories. A couple came in becuase the women was getting sick. The doctor asked if she could be pregnant. They said there is no way becuase she is on birth control. My friend said are you taking it everyday at the same time. She said no, it was making me feel sick, so my husband has been taking it for me. My friend said she almost started laughing but some how held it together.
IveSeenYouB4 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:02:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt that really bad for men
killerofcheese ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:49:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes, we could grow tits
Jrramirez298 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:18:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Havent you ever heard of wireless medicine?
allcaps26 ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 23:47:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doc, but I work at a large ER in VA.
Last night we had a 20 something female come in for vaginal bleeding. She was diagnosed with menorrhagia (prolonged menstrual bleeding). She had started her period 8 days before and still had spotting. Her instructions at discharge said "you are experiencing menses, you will experience this every 21-28 days for approximately 7 days at a time for the next 35 years".
jetfossion ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:04:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I got my first period, I was horrified. I had heard about them, but didn't really know what they entailed.
I thought for sure I had cancer. Death was soon.
For whatever reason, I didn't want my parents to know they were gonna lose me. I hid my bloody underwear and went outside to play and enjoy my last few weeks on Earth. I kept it up for 2 more days, changing underwear every few hours. Finally my mom found the stash.
She went outside to ask me what the hell I was doing, and I started bawling in terror at my impending demise. She laughed! I never felt so confused...
She bought me a book that weekend, and it all made sense.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:15:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So cute that your first instinct was protecting your parents! I had something similar as a reaction.
I first got my period on a trip with my dad visiting my grandparents. I actually knew what was up (we had surprisingly progressive 5th grade sex Ed) but didn't have any supplies.
Long story short, the wads of toilet paper in my undies sprung a back leak on the nine hour car trip home. When he noticed, I told him I had accidentally pooped myself.
"It happens to all of us," he said.
MissTypaTypa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww hahaha
TicklingKittens ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:47:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why the fuck did our mothers get us books?
jetfossion ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who knows why they didn't just explain it! Did you get the American Girl book? Lifesaver.
TicklingKittens ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:24:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Is that the only freaking book about periods that exists? And mine was checked out from the library, not even bought. I love my Mama, but nobody ever gave me any kinda talk. My daughter is getting far more talk than she'll want, and I'm gonna take her to the gyno. I was literally terrified to go to the ob/gyn even after I was pregnant.
ithoughticouldresist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad raised me and I don't recall any talks. I asked my girl friends who started before me any questions I had and read anything I could get my hands on so I could to try and understand what would happen to me. I was still so uncomfortable/terrified at the idea of visiting a gyno though. I didn't go until I was 22/23. Nobody made me go or suggested I should. Thankfully I didn't experience any complications and was a late bloomer in general. Being a girl is tough. I'm glad you'll be there for your daughter. <3
TicklingKittens ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For some reason the one thing my parents decided to really be religious about was sex. Sex and marriage.
nytheatreaddict ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:47:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"The Care and Keeping of You" or something like that. It had a tip about makeshift temporary pads (just rolled up toilet paper) and that saved me the first day of my first period. Mom didn't say anything about periods except that tampons would give us TSS and we'd die.
xgravity23 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you allowed to use tampons at least? I was not because "they're not for virgins." Grew up in the Bible Belt.
thealmightydes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:15:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That was one of the only things my overly religious, paranoid mother was actually reasonable about. She might have been obsessed with telling me I was dressing like a slut for wearing tank tops or accusing me of having sex with nonexistent random boys, but she bought me both tampons and pads from the very beginning.
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good for her!!
TheLaramieReject ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! I remember calling my mom from a hotel when I was on a trip with my dad, begging her permission to wear a tampon so I could go in the pool. She refused.
nytheatreaddict ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't until college. My mom didn't purchase any and I was mortified by the thought purchasing feminine products on my own. My sister did, I think, but I think she purchased them herself. Sex/our bodies were a really taboo subject in our household and when it did come up it was always shameful, so I'm still dealing with that. My little sister has a spine of steel and a hell of a lot more confidence then I did/do, so she was just kind of like "meh, whatever" and did her own thing.
xgravity23 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:30:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, same. My college roommates had a good laugh and then they demonstrated how to insert a tampon with their hands. After everyone had gone to sleep (Bible belt shame was still in full effect!), I went for it, but I didn't do it right and it hurt inside for about 30 minutes before I gave up and ripped it out. They had told me if I didn't get it in far enough, it would hurt, so the next day, I got a other demonstration and gave it another go. Success. (Thanks, mom. /s)
thealmightydes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom's version of the talk when I was 11 was something about baby nests that I didn't really understand and to tell me my virginity was a diamond. I convinced her to very begrudgingly let me attend the short sex ed class in 8th grade by telling her I'd get bullied if I was the only one not allowed to sit in. It was pretty thorough with lots of reading material, so by the time I was almost 14 and my cycle started, I actually knew what was going on. Went and told my mom I needed supplies and she just sighed dramatically like I was the most trying thing in her life. Thank all that is good and normal in the world for sex ed.
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
American Girl book? In the 90s, we got Julie's Story, with the accompanying video the girls watched starring Julie. I still don't know what the boys got to watch that afternoon.
AggressivelyNice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure they watched a video about boners, wet dreams, body hair, voice changing and pit stank.
molly__hatchet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The blood was brownish the first time, and I thought I was incontinent or something and just kept pooping myself. My mom found out and told me what was up haha.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:35:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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daitoshi ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 01:52:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents vaguely told me periods were a thing but didn't explain what it entailed, or when to expect it.
When I was 12, my mom wasn't doing so hot, kinda dying from brain cancer, so I don't really blame anyone for forgetting to remind me about this whole periods thing.
Anyway I woke up one morning with blood all over my thighs and bed, and a sharp pain low in my gut, and immediately thought I had been stabbed in the night and was going to die. I yelled for my dad and started bawling my eyes out.
It didn't help that he rushed in, saw my state, yelped, and ran out again.
He abandoned me!! There's no hope!! I really am dying! - Little!me thought.
Anyway, luckily my grandma was visiting at the time and explained things as I took a shower.
(Dad got me ice cream as an apology for scaring me)
guacamoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did none of you people have sex ed in school?
daitoshi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in an area where "Abstinence Only" sex ed was the only thing you received in school until early Highschool, when the ACTUAL sex-ed class happened.
I was 12, parents told me at some point but I had since forgotten.
guacamoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. I thought my school was pretty shitty, but at least we got anatomy and puberty explained to us in 5th grade.
niroby ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 02:58:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your normal period is 2-3 days long and you're having an 8 day long one I can see why you would want a medical check
everysingletimegirl ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:18:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But probably not go to the ER and certainly not for spotting.
niroby ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:31:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can think of a few different reasons why you'd go for spotting to an ER. You've never had spotting before. You're experiencing unusual pain with it. You're on birth control and this is the first period you've had in three years. You spent too long looking up 'implantation bleeding' and you're paranoid you've got an ectopic pregnancy. It's not like your usual spotting so you're worried it's a symptom of an STD.
You're going to the ER because you've used up all your sick days at work, so you have to go at night. You stayed up half the night playing Dr Google and now it's 3am and you're freaking out. You don't have a car and the ER is significantly closer than a clinic. You've never actually gone to a doctor before so you're not sure where to go.
Relevant xkcd
lllola ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to womanhood, woman.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:47:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Discharge instructions are my favorite to read. I always love the "please shower" or "please stop smoking crack/snorting cocaine/injecting heroine"
ethlian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:49:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom didn't tell me and I figured I'd fucked up in some way and managed to hide it for a year(I hate doctors) eventually I thought to google and started the search off with, am I dying?
pink-pink ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:10:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you hit puberty after google was invented?
STOP MAKING ME FEEL OLD
srf312016 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:51:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How did she eventually find out?
[deleted] ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 23:30:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheHodag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:45:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well don't leave us hanging, does it?
redstern ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:55:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To that I would say "Unwrap it fully, and tell me what it looks like it should fit around"
DukeMaximum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't that hurt?
precociouspi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would reduce fertility... But yeah. Ow.
Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:46:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Better safe than sorry!
luqi_charmz ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:22:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was pregnant, my MIL said I couldn't drink Sprite because the bubbles cause kidney infections so she insisted I could only drink sweet tea.
When I was in labor, she freaked out when the nurse broke my water because she thought the baby breathed amniotic fluid and would suffocate.
She also told me that it was impossible for me to have a cyst on my ovary because infection is caused by air and I hadn't been stabbed or anything.
alegna9905 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:06:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐ค
Oznog99 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:53:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fish... they're drowning... it's so sad!!
CreatrixAnima ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We are all...dead...fish!
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 07:56:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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electrodude102 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:04:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha; what the hell, how old was this guy?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SEOfficial ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:41:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe for his whole life it was dead easy for people to read his mind from his facial expressions xD
cbcfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But then he had plastic surgery and without the wrinkles no one could read his face?
SEOfficial ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No he started not-talking to people that were not looking at him. At least that would explain why sometimes people dont hear him.
Re-lar-Kvothe ยท 232 points ยท Posted at 23:15:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not a Dr. but I think this story is relate-able. I was friends with a family with 7 children that did not want any more kids. The husband asked the wife to go to the Dr. and ask for birth control. She was prescribed "the pill". Apparently she was taking them as prescribed but a few months later got preggers anyway. One of her older daughters was in the room when she broke the news to her family that she was with child again. The daughter asked mother when and how often she was taking the pills. She responded, "every morning like the Dr. said. However, when I am having my monthly it is disgusting and difficult." Long story short, she was using them as a vaginal douche, so to speak. Sad to say both parents were mentally challenged. So were at least 4 of the children. It was theorized that the 3 that were considered "intelligent" were sired by someone other than the husband. I have some other strange stories but this one was a doozy.
ziburinis ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 02:56:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get kids with normal intelligence from parents that are developmentally delayed. I remember watching this documentary about a married couple who were developmentally delayed and they had a kid. The daughter was in kindergarten, and the mom was worried because soon the daughter was going to be more advanced than the parents. The mother was worried because she wouldn't be able to help with homework or reading or anything, really, after another year or two. She didn't want her daughter to feel she was missing something and she didn't want her daughter to not be able to get the help at home that she needed. The daughter wasn't planned, she didn't intend to have a baby.
creepysnowflake ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:19:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. Thank you for saying this. So many kids end up in foster care and considered "unadoptable" because parents were mentally handicapped. Most mental retardation is not genetic.
Crystalinfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Their was a 20 something mental retarded lady who had a baby. She was placed in a home for M.R. adults and the 2 year old baby (testing normal) was being raised by the grandparents. I'm not sure about who the father was but pretty sure one reason she was being placed was she got pregnant. Some people will take sexual advantage of mentally handicapped people. The normal procedure back in the 1950's was to sterilize all M.R. people not so now, so pregnancies happen.
shelikeslurpee ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a pharmacy and there is a reason we have to write the route of administration on every prescription. This is the reason.
Terimary ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:58:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I can say is wow
Seicair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That same thing (using BC as a pessary) was mentioned in another comment. There's no reason that shouldn't work unless they weren't put up far enough or fell out.
imperfect5outof7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually pretty neat to know.
Re-lar-Kvothe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it didn't.
ArmaDolphins ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:49:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this is a typo, but there's no hyphen in "relatable." Sorry to be a grammar nazi, just wanting to be sure that you know seeing as we're in a thread full of people assuming others knew things they didn't.
Re-lar-Kvothe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:25:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Geez, th-anks. So ve-ry sm-all of y-ou.
Ap0Th3 ยท -45 points ยท Posted at 00:12:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you imagine? Some evil person in history oils not have let them reproduce! How horrible!
Stats_Sexy ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 22:12:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor... But, I had a mate who thought circumcised guys couldn't masturbate.
oliver51293 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:10:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I proved him wrong! :D
brick_howse ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:31:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it was popularized in the US by Kellogg (yes, the cereal guy) as a "cure" for masturbation.....
hellosexynerds ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:48:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well Kellogg recommended regular circumcision on boys in the US because he thought it would reduce masturbation. One of the reasons it regained popularity in the US.
gunfulker ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:39:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
never slowed me down.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:32:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your dick will eventually look like a portobello mushroom i assume.
ginko4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, you think the foreskin stops the head from expanding outwards or something?
TheFallen__ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:19:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give him this.. it can be challenging at times
Edit: seem to have caused some confusion what I mean by original post is that it's less pleasurable/easy? This maybe a personal thing with how mine was done but wanted to clarify anyways
butasngpwet ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:42:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How, your mom is in the next room? It works exactly the same.
imperialmoose ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:41:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not the same. If you have a foreskin you don't need to use lube.
Lt_Duckweed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:34:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am circumcised. I don't use lube. Actually most cut dudes don't use lube. That is a movie gag.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Lt_Duckweed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Notice I said most. Your sample size appears to be 1. Mine is several hundred. (8 story dorm with 500 guys in it, 3 years)
imperialmoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. TIL. So... are you just using pre-cum?
Lt_Duckweed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:57 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
100% full dry. I use a tissue to wipe away precum, then shoot the business into a tissue or the toilet.
imperialmoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:13 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I... I can't tell if you're hardcore or not... that sounds uncomfortable. Now I feel like I'll have to peel back and try it... I feel like it may need a substantially different technique...
Lt_Duckweed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:10 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, it's comfortable to me, that's the way I've always done it.
TheFallen__ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:06:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry I mean like the lack of foreskin makes doing stuff dry harder (lube for the win)
InsanePurple ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:18:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think that's more a you problem mate.
TheFallen__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:43:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
XD idk maybe your lucky from who u have talked too
Stickeris ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:06:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Circumcised male, never had any issue whatsoever, but I guess everyone is different.
Falecon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wut? How so? Uncircumcised dude here
TheFallen__ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:18:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My experience is that there is less room for skin motion. My understanding is that you can move skin up over the glands where as I cant really... hence me using lube to kinda replace that I guess.
Idk man trying to explain somthing normal for you is hard
xkilllerkondorx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd imagine it to be quite "tough" as I'm uncut. I'd expect lots of lotion.
Lt_Duckweed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:36:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I'm a cut dry whacker. Not many cut dudes use lube. it's mostly a movie gag.
Rainbowcactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:17 on June 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is your mate Harvey Kellogg?
Jatrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can confirmed this.
Source: am circumcised.
feeju ยท 752 points ยท Posted at 20:43:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Mother's milk is the best food for your 3 months old son." "Also have you considerd family planning?"
Was accused of "loose talk with women" aka harassment and police got involved. Yes in a conservative/3rd world country.
Delanium ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:56:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I grew up in an area that's totally cool with breast feeding, so these stories always baffle me. How is breastfeeding not something that's done in a 3rd world country? I would think that's something everybody does for their babies when they have no money to spare.
Bogaragaraga ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:37:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott might have something to do with it.
Delanium ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 01:44:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so Nestle advertised in underdeveloped countries, convincing poor women that breastmilk was actually bad and getting them to spend what little they had on formula?
Jeez, every time I think I know how shitty that company is they just keep surprising me...
_Z_E_R_O ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 01:49:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that, they gave away samples of their formula so the women would stop lactating, thus making them dependent on the formula. These impoverished women didn't have money to buy more or access to safe drinking water to mix with the powdered formula, and a lot of babies died as a result.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Delanium ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:30:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm quite religious myself. I grew up in a religious environment. The difference is that mine and my friends' parents saw the value of educating their children about real life, instead of shrouding us in a bubble and hoping for the best.
DongLaiCha ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:53:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm taking a guess that you're probably in a developed country, visit some developing countries and your perception of what constitutes "education" will change forever. I now have a much higher appreciation for the education of your average first world idiot.
Third world people with zero social or academic education + religion that taboos just about everything = just complete and utter fucking lunacy. At some point you're wondering "How are these people even bloody alive?!" And then you realise, these are just the ones that have survived this long.
rigred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always say, If a near brainless ant can survive, than the dumbest idiot can too. You just got to hope they decide to challenge nature on that,and loose ;)
feeju ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Breastfeeding is common and recommended here too. The mother was young/poor/uneducated. I think she just didn't know any better.
Delanium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps I misunderstood. I thought that reccomending breastfeeding was one of the reasons you were accused of "loose talk with women."
I assume you were doing some kind of charity work, in which case I applaud you, especially since it got you in trouble with the law (as ridiculous as the law was in this case).
I also hope you were able to give some lasting knowledge to the young woman.
feeju ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:01:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
work in a govt hospital. the "issue" here was that "a man talked to a woman about breast-feeding" and "family planning".
its usually fine but this woman and those with her were absolutely illiterate and probably told their men at home about it who got absolutely mad that someone had talked with their women in this way.
btw police were involved by me coz they had threatened me and other hospital staff. wasnt a fun week
they had to apologize in the end but this still was pretty fucked up
send your daughters to school first if you want female doctors in your community ffs
Przedrzag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What country did this take place in?
ijustcomment ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 21:06:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It must cost a fortune to get that milk to the 3 months old sun.
feeju ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 21:11:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
tbh the sun turned out fine. i mean look at it. probably 6 billion years old and still kicking.
Tonnot98 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:21:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
no, dont look at the sun
feeju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oops sorry. i meant look at it at night
FiliaSecunda ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:20:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is the kind of grace I want to have when somebody points out my typos.
fridgeridoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but it's really messed up, every winter it goes into hiding
kjata ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:04:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, we just don't come by as often. It understands. Life takes us away sometimes. It's cool.
O_bigodes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Around 4.6 billion years.
Vtlsgns ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:07:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahha. You almost had me. The sun is older than three months. Milk for a 3 month old sun...
telperiontree ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:55:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a man? Can you hire a woman to have this conversation with other women? You'd have to have the conversation with the person you hired, though. Hmm.
malonkey1 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 02:58:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Listen, what I'm about to say is going to sound hideous, disgusting, and unbearable, but it's an important truth that you'll have to understand if you want this job. If you want to leave now with your sense of reality intact, I recommend doing so now, and there is no shame in doing so."
The room darkens, /u/feeju's face is lit harshly from below as a storm suddenly kicks up.
"Babies do well when fed their mothers' milk."
Lightning strikes, a child's scream is heard, and an unseen horse whinnies in distress.
uniptf ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 22:09:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soooo, Louisiana? Mississippi? Arkansas maybe?
skippythehobo ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:13:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From the user name, I'm going to guess India/Pakistan. Close though!
Fennexin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:48:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Willing to bet on Oklahoma
Rockonfoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Elaborate please? I don't get this one at all
iprobably8it ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine the milk would evaporate long before getting near it, though.
feeju ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
dry milk ftw
malonkey1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's just to provide some additional fusion material, though? It's mostly water, which is mostly hydrogen.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ernest figured it out.
Gendoyle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Texas?
badoopdopp ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 22:51:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle had a lady who knew she had type one diabetes come in with a blood sugar of around five hundred. He gave her insulin and then left for a few minutes, only to come back and find her eating corndogs.
DrewPeacock47 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 23:54:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did she get corndogs
ToxDoc ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 00:02:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are lots of places people get food from. Many times they bring it. I once had a discussion with a patient about her terrible stomach pain that was so bad that she couldn't eat, while she was actively eat take out chili cheese fries with large pieces of bacon. She looked at me like I was an idiot when I asked if it was getting better since she seemed to be able to eat now.
Patients will even order delivery to the ED. My colleague saw a Chinese food delivery guy at the Ambulance enterence. He was looking for a patient who then showed up a minute later via EMS. The guy called 911, then for Chinese food, since he didn't think he'd get any food in the ED. Chinese food delivery beat the ambulance to the hospital.
pink-pink ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:16:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not sure if crap ambulance or awesome chinese place
ToxDoc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A bit of both.
badoopdopp ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:36:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I remember right, I think she had her son bring them to her somehow.
rexmus1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:15:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You ask the questions we all want to know
KnifeKillx100 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:41:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pocket 'dogs, duh. Everyone knows that those are the best kind.
shit_in_2017 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They're not sweet, so of course they can't raise your blood sugar, right?!?
Cpt_Tripps ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:57:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did you get that muffin?
idk muffin button
but I never installed a muffin button
then where did I get this muffin?
Falecon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck, how was she not dead?
crazymonkey752 ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 23:45:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paramedic. You would be amazed how many people we have to tell not to smoke while they have a tube in their nose pumping out one the most flammable things on earth (oxygen). I have actually seen people stick a lit cigarette inside a mask with O2 flowing. That was the day I slapped an oxygen mask off a patient's face.
Rebellious1 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:58:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa did this. He passed away about 5 years ago and smoked til the day he died. Blew off his own eyebrows at least 3 times trying to smoke with his oxygen mask on.
Nekachan61 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:11:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad does this. My mom tells him not to but he still does it. I honestly have no idea why even though he knows what could happen.
SuperGurlToTheRescue ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:59:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle smoked with his oxygen mask either on or he had just taken it off. Caught himself on fire, burned his lungs and throat and there wasn't much they could do about it, gave him pain meds but that's all they could offer him. It was awful and eventually he just couldn't handle the pain and he killed himself.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is how one of my grandma's sister's died. Smoking in bed with an oxygen mask on. Ended up setting the bed on fire and part of the house. She lived with some very bad burns for a few days before dying too.
gino188 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:15 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would argue that most people don't know Chemistry and have no idea that oxygen can really make things burn crazy. Most adults would probably fail grade 9 or 10 science.
..but lol..trying to take a smoke while you are on oxygen...haha.
flyguy42 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:01:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they were surprised that you thought O2 was flammable and needed a smoke while they decided how to respond. :-)
everythingskulls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
O2 is oxygen. That is flammable.
iCameToLearnSomeCode ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:31:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pure oxygen is not flammable, it does however make flammable things burn more quickly and easily (enough to be explosive) but you can light a lighter in a pure oxygen room, the whole room won't explode into flame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM1REU3TcWU
CriminallyStupid ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:25:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay I've seen a lot of things used as supporting evidence but this is a 6th grader with a fish bowl and a candle and does not accurately depict what happens when an open flame meets an extremely high concentration of O2.
Seicair ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:04:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you say it doesn't? Chemistry tutor here, iCameToLearnSomeCode is absolutely correct. And the video is a pretty good demonstration, that kid did a great experiment.
CriminallyStupid ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:24:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I say it's not accurate because there's no way to know exactly what was happening with his experiment. Nothing was measuring O2 concentration within his fish bowl and who knows what sort of volume/flow was coming through the little plastic tube, or how much the candle flame itself was consuming while new O2 was being slowly added . Ignoring how any air movement around the bowl affected things or if the heat from the flame caused enough air movement to effectively not make a steady stream of O2.
If a vacuum chamber was filled with various concentrations of O2 and then the candle was lit within I could accept it as being more concrete proof of the outcome.
Seicair ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's got oxygen flowing into the fishbowl, and you can watch the candle burn more brightly/faster. That's a pretty clear case of cause and effect. Oxygen is more dense than air, so it's filling the bowl from the bottom up, which is why it takes some time after he turns it on to see the change in the flame.
If you want to see pure oxygen, check out this video.
I reiterate, I'm a chemistry tutor and I can assure you that oxygen is not flammable. Three things are necessary for fire, an oxidizer, heat, and fuel. Oxygen is the oxidizer, but it will not burst into flame in the absence of fuel to burn. Just the way if you have pure hydrogen gas and try and light it on fire in the absence of oxygen nothing will happen. You need a fuel/oxygen mix to get fire. (If you have more frightening oxidizers like fluorine gas, you don't even need the heat to be past room temperature).
CriminallyStupid ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I'm confused, sorry. I thought the claim where this all stemmed from was that a high concentrations of oxygen was not explosive. My argument was that with the above test doesn't really prove that one way or another. Yes the flame glows a bit brighter.
Seicair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can cause things to explode, (which iCameToLearnToCode specifically said,) but it depends on how flammable/reactive the fuel is. A candle won't explode because the heat first has to melt the wax and then vaporize it, but a mixture of flammable gasses and sufficient oxygen will certainly explode.
DakasaurusWrecks ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:29:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oxygen is not flammable, it's an oxidizer obviously but oxygen itself does not burn. It does accelerate rate of burn.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Seicair ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:03:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See the other comments, oxygen is not flammable. It causes other things to burn, but it will not burst into flame of its own accord without something else to react with.
Somebody_81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Been there, done that. Way too many times. Scary
jgolden2690 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:02 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a bank, and there is a guy who comes through every so often, sweetest guy I've ever waited on, but he's on oxygen, and sometimes he'll be smoking away in my drive thru with the tubes in his nose. Freaks me out.
el___diablo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.thejournal.ie/naas-fire-2991450-Sep2016/
Weaksoul ยท 762 points ยท Posted at 22:30:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Two stories, not about patients, but about the Drs lack of knowledge - both working in a western country.
I worked with a young female Dr from the middle east. One day on discussing homosexuality she said 'yeah but it's only been around for like the past 20-30 years though right?' Was absolutely gobsmacked!
Another conversation, older middle eastern (different country) male Dr. 'Being gay is a symptom of having been molested by another man'. Yeah. Wow
WhimsyUU ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 00:49:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On another website, someone said that premarital sex was "invented" in the 1950s as a result of the beginning of the moral decline in culture. When we asked what he thought unmarried people had been doing for the rest of human history, he said he supposed that they masturbated.
UndeadKitten ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:13:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should've asked him to read The Scarlet Letter
WhimsyUU ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:14:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I certainly had trouble wrapping my mind around how extremely ignorant someone would have to be of history to not know about any lovers, concubines, affairs, bastards, mistresses, etc.
Przedrzag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Given how famous the Ottoman Sultans were for their concubines, I suppose that concubines never registered as premarital sex. Also, given that the Abrahamic religions prescribe execution for adultery, they likely had no exposure to anyone who had done such a thing.
malonkey1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, yeah, they do plenty of that, too.
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 00:01:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We still perpetuate the second one in popular media entirely too much but definitely not how that works.
deadtime68 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 00:43:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr. Ben Carson has similar ideas
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:19:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That man is the sole reason 'brain surgeon ' is no longer synonymous with smart
KinglyWeevil ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:36:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like if you tried to make a movie about a stoner who got brain swapped with a brain surgeon, and now he's just muddling through it.
BoozeMonster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think he just saw 'Catch Me If You Can' twelve times, tried out the "Do you concur?" bit and has yet to be caught.
KinglyWeevil ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:34:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Tried that as a teenager minus the crime, majored in psychology later.
About to enter mid-level management with no idea what I'm doing. But I've come to realize we're all faking it together.
Society is held together with bubble gum and string. Sometimes I'm amazed at how it all appears to function.
Crystalinfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:15 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why people try to insist that just because he's really really good at his job (Brain surgeon) he should be good at something entirely different (Politician). It doesn't work that way most of the time. I think the country is going is going to get a really rude awakening with so called good "Businessman Trump"
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:42 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. And for a 'good' businessman, he's filed for bankruptcy quite a bit. I don't think Warren Beatty has ever filed for bankruptcy and he's pretty effing successful.
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he's smart, just in a very narrow area
smugliberaltears ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:35:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oscar Wilde was just a very fancy gentleman who happened to prefer the company of other men over women. That's all!
you'd be surprised how common this belief is, as well as the belief that trans people are a new thing.
ReindeerHoof ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:28:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but Tchaikovsky.
VindictiveJudge ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We can go back further with Leonardo da Vinci.
smugliberaltears ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shit, we can go back to before we were humans. our closest cousins in the animal kingdom have homosexual relationships and sex. with trans people we can go back to the advent of gender identity itself.
VindictiveJudge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think we can go to ancient Greece for both of those, too, if we don't want to go quite that far back.
fixerofthings ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:50:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked with a guy from India who swore up and down that there are no gays in India. I quickly pointed out that it's illegal and sometimes punishable by death to be homosexual in India.
His response? I know! That's why there are no gays in India -_-
goloons ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:45:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in Japan, a woman told me and my British friend that there were no gay people in Japan. My friend busted out laughing and assured her she was wrong. He had fucked a Japanese dude the previous night.
Brassens71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:23 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother (who is gay) was also told that there were no gays in Japan. By a guy he was dating.
goloons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wut.
Przedrzag ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:38:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Homosexuality isn't punishable by death in India, but by maximum 14 years imprisonment. The statute actually derives from the Crimes Act of 1861. Members of the previous government actually tried to get it struck down in the courts, and it was legal for a few years. Sadly, the law was ruled constitutional and the new government likely doesn't want to repeal it.
[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 00:20:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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addysol ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 00:59:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An alpha gay clearly. A gay-tient zero if you will
Addoude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:19:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess being highly educated doesn't stop someone from being ignorant.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:45:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So...homosexuality is caused by homosexuality.
It's like Blade but with more leather. Things are starting to make sense.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:01:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I referred to ancient Greeks as "ass-fuckers" *) in a conversation at university. My twenty something friend didn't know that ancient Greeks had homosexual sex on daily basis.
*) as a term of endearment, I was speaking highly of them.
Crystalinfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:42 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes for anyone that doesn't know about it google " greek homosexual pottery" or ancient greek art depicting sex. If you are really wanting some weird stuff add animals or bacchanal to that.
thetrickyshow1 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:52:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the hell
LeftZer0 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:34:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Smart people can be convinced of stupid things if it's all they have ever been told.
Gwuc ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:16:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and you wonder why gay rights in those countries are lacking...
OhSirrah ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:19:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is there to wonder about?
Keltin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who's gay who believes the latter one. It's honestly incredibly sad that he had something like that happen to him so young, and believes it to be the source of his homosexuality. He's also a devout Catholic.
He's been seeing a therapist, I really hope he gets it all untangled in his head because what he believes makes me worry for him sometimes.
poorexcuses ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:04:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:( It's hard for people to realize that someone could see something in them they didn't yet understand and use it to victimize them.
emote_control ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a chicken and egg problem if I ever saw one.
hundycougar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somebody once said the Greeks invented sex and the Italians introduced it to women...
onedoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What did you say to them?
Weaksoul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To the former, as in this thread, I pointed out many recent and historical examples of gay folks, some of which she'd obviously heard about from sources outside medical school but presumably hadnt thought about them since being 'educated' as a medic.
The other guy, I had no examples I could convince him with, but he smoked and I always used to tell him smoking a pork cigar was better for him than a tobacco one...
DrVerdandi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have an acquaintance who thinks this as well. This woman knows gay people, like is personal friends with them, and still thinks this. I'm floored.
doomfox13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gobsmacked is an excellent word.
Plane_pro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh boy...what country from the ME? I've known quite a few MEastern doctors, who were quite smart and knew about homosexuality...but wow...
NJNeal17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As states continually pass referendums I thought this would be a thing of the past but I am now looking for a new GI bc my mid-40's CCFA listed gastroenterologist told me she would never prescribe marijuana to any patient for any reason bc it has no medicinal benefits. She told me this after I asked her to get the ball rolling on getting me a Rx since my state just passed a medical marijuana law. sigh
ronin1066 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a Saudi student who wanted to be a doctor. The number of bizarre things he believed about sexuality and homosexuality make me hope he never becomes a doctor, anywhere. But he won't, he had a learning disability that would prevent it from ever happening.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people from this country believe that too. Plenty of Christians seem to anyway. If a gay guy is molested by a woman does that make him straight now in their view?
UndeadKitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure but a friend's mom believed that being raped by a man would cure her lesbianism.
The story ends with her step-uncle in a leg cast and her dad having full custody of her by the way.
dumpsterfire_2016 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:44:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dental hygienist here. It's unbelievable how many people tell me they "had a toothache so they took some left over antibiotics from their last sinus/bladder/whatever infection."
I've started telling them: "Please don't do that anymore. You are the reason MRSA exists. Don't self medicate. Antibiotics aren't a magic fix all pill. And for god's sake, finish antibiotics that are prescribed to you."
Parents do this to their kids. Adults do it to themselves. People pop antibiotics like candy and then don't finish the dosage administered because they feel better..
DrMaster2 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:37:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a doctor and not finishing your prescribed antibiotics can be seriously dangerous and lead to future infections that are much more difficult to treat - if they can be treated at all. If you're going to take antibiotics - FINISH THEM. If you don't finish them any surviving bugs will be mutated (and genetically absorb the antibiotic) and you are much less likely to respond to another round of the same. This is the main problem with resistance that is making our antibiotics useless. That, and our proclivity to feed cattle and other flesh (including farm fish) tons of antibiotics so that now we are hoping against all hope that the (polluted) oceans will provide us with new material for future antibiotics (AKA "against life") In addition, and much more serious, the role of antibiotics in the alteration of gut flora is making the rounds - especially troubling when more research is revealing the incredible wide range of disease and conditions (by having the wrong levels and ratios in gut flora) have in our body/mind/spirit continuum. Best to consider learning how to PREVENT infections in the first place
Mgmegadog ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this is a terrible idea. The only time you should have pills left over is if they somehow don't come in the amount you're prescribed. Finish your damn prescriptions.
PurpleOrangeSkies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or if you turn out to be allergic to it. Drug eruptions are even worse than a minor infection.
Mgmegadog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, that too. Should have occurred to me, my brother JUST had an allergic reaction to his medication.
FuckinPiratePrincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, this is one of the things that really piss me off. Like with many other issues, there isn't really an ethically feasible solution, but sometimes I wish people would have to take a test to see if they understand the main concept of why they need to finish their antibiotics and if they don't, too bad... no antibiotics for you...
Thalenos ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:12:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father who is a doctor had to sit down and explain to the mother of his patient that letting him play soccer on a broken leg in a cast was not only harming his "future soccer career" but him too, and had to tell her to stop helping him slip off his cast to let it heal.
Diceeeeeee ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I used to transport patients at a large hospital. One time I picked up this normal looking African American guy from the ER who was about 60 and seemed with it. We joked and talked about current sports the entire way up to his room which took about 5 minutes. I get him to his semi-private room which has a patient in the bed closest to the door having their vitals taken by a nurse. I ask the guy "can you walk?" He hops off they stretcher says "yup!" He walks to his side of the partitioning curtain in his hospital gown with no trouble. He then walks between his bed and curtain and without warning he casts the front of his gown to the side as if it was a super hero cape, begins humming, and proceeds to pee in against the curtain in the corner like he was trying to write his name in the snow. I didn't know what to do other than laugh and tell the nurse. As I left she just kept repeating "I love my job... I love my job... I love my job." That was one of the funniest things I have ever seen in person.
Three_hrs_later ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:32:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was my own father... After questioning why he couldn't make it up a flight of stairs (grew up in a 3 story home, was unusual for him) he admitted to having chest pain and shortness of breath for almost a year. Went to hospital, stent wouldn't do, straight to surgery for bypass and a valve replacement to boot. Surgeon said it was one of the worst valves he has ever seen, dad could have suddenly dropped dead at any moment.
(Warning for impending nastiness) 6 months later he is asking how long it takes a kidney stone to pass, on further questioning he has been peeing blood for 4 months.... Turned out to be Bladder cancer.
Moral of the story: Listen to your body for Christ's sake!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:54:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has drank red wine since he was probably around 15 (Greek life). He starts pissing blood, says nothing to anyone about it for months. Casually brings it up one day and I'm like uhh you need to go the doctor. 3 weeks later, confirmed bladder cancer, 3 weeks after that he gets a neobladder. When we asked why he didn't say anything sooner "I thought my piss was red from the wine" 50 years later and NOW the wine is causing you problems? I wanted to slap him.
isfturtle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:54:17 on January 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not as bad, but similar start: my mom was winded after going up a flight of stairs. I told her she needed to see a doctor. "No I'm just out of shape." "This is not normal. YOU NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR." So she went to the doctor and he took her heart rate and it was 144 bpm. She ended up spending 8 days in the hospital, 4 of which were in the ICU, with atrial flutter and fibrillation. She could have had a stroke if left untreated.
goodtobepharaoh ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 05:21:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I have a good story!
The summer before I went to college, I took a summer job at a local organic food market. I just wanted to be a cashier or something, but they gave me a job in the supplement department. The rest of the supplement department was staffed by middle-aged ladies, and whenever a man sauntered into the department, they pawned him off on me because I'm male. One day, there was a man wandering around the "men's health" section, and I asked him if he needed any assistance. He, like most of the crazies walking around this store, was very nervous. He asked me if we had any calcium or anything like that "for the bone." I replied that we did have calcium supplements, and that the were over this way in our bone health section. He then started asking me if his wife will like these calcium supplements and if his performance will get better while using these supplements. I reply with how, if he is calcium-deficient, calcium supplements can help with bone strength, and that lots of women take calcium supplements. He was suddenly really relieved and said "how good it was to be able to talk to another guy about these wang things." Dumbfounded, I replied, "...What?" He pointed at his crotch and said, "My wang, man. My wang!" My head started spinning - when this man told me he needed something for "the bone," he meant his penis, and this whole conversation has been about his genitals. In my glorious wisdom, I said, "Wait. Why do you need calcium for your penis?" He replied that his "bone's not working and he can't get hard." And then it hit me: this middle-aged man with a wedding ring thought that there is a literal bone inside his body that makes his penis erect like he's Wolverine or something. I explained that there was no 'bone' and that penises get erections by filling spongy tissue with blood. He replied, "Then why do they call it 'the bone?'" From that moment on, I understood why all the other ladies in the department stayed clear of the men's health section.
sativasalmon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:37:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hook him up with some horny goat weed or something else?
goodtobepharaoh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:21:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure did!
KaraWolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an fyi biologically humans are one of the very few mammal species who DON'T have an actual bone in their penis. Its called a baculum, and most other animals have them. They're weird shaped.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:52:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the hospital ER. There was a patient next to me (a curtain is all that was between us) and I heard this conversation:
Dr: You are having a severe allergic reaction. What are you allergic to? Pt: Wheeze,wheeze, gasp, help! Parents of pt: Well, he's allergic to shellfish for one... Dr: Did he ingest shellfish? Parents: Yes. Dr: Does he understand he's allergic to shellfish? Parents: Well, he didn't think he really was since he hasn't had it for many years, so he thought he'd try and see if he really is. Pt: Gargle, gasp, choke wheeze help! Dr: CAN I GET HELP IN HERE FOR RESPIRATORY?!! Parents: Well, just fix him up and we'll take him home Dr: Not that simple (as staff rush in), your son is in serious respiratory distress Parents: A pill or something? Dr: Someone get the parents out!
tl;dr kid deliberately ate shellfish to see if allergic, parents watched, kid is dying
pi123263 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Parenting done wrong.
nelzborg ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 02:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a patient complain about her vaginal jelly prescription. She claimed it didn't work and wanted a different prescription. She explained she used it every day but hated the taste. The prescription read apply as directed every day. She had been applying it to toast and eating it for several days.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:08:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why I'm laughing so hard at this.
certain_people ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you taught her properly how to apply it. We don't want her reproducing!
Lymphoblast ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 04:24:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think this happened with another doctor I couldn't believe ir.
When you place a cast for a broken bone, the general rule is that you have to fix the two joints adjacent to the fracture (I.e. you break your forearm, you place a cast that inmovilices the wrist and elbow), pretty simple, right?
One time I received a patient with a cast in his forearm, took an Xray to clasify the fracture and THIS.
Hint: you can see the humerus (arm bone) broken by half, but the cast is in the forearm.
Every now and then when I feel sad or dumb I look at that Xray.
cookie5427 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:11:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That fracture is right above the proximal end of the cast. Is it possible that the cast acted as a fulcrum and the fracture occurred after plaster application?
jorrylee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:17:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was this casted in Jasper in the nineties? Happened there. Doctor saw a lot of ski injuries. Other docs saw them the next day to fix stuff.
angwilwileth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:58:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is such a thing as a "hanging arm cast" where the idea is to weigh down the arm and put natural traction on the fracture.
The X-ray in question that you posted does look more like a crappy ER splint though.
Karranor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:05:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just looking at this hurt.
merouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This should be higher, OMG
Sammikins ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 00:01:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a conversation with a then 18 year old friend who was telling me about her first obgyn exam and she swore up and down that the dr did a prostate exam on her.... she didn't believe me when I told her that women don't have prostates.
Edit: my bad I definitely didn't realize this was a doctors of Reddit post lol. I'm no doctor!
Sassafrassuchaheifer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she confuse pelvic with prostate, perhaps?
iamasecretthrowaway ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:55:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some doctors include a rectal exam as part of their standard pelvic/wellness check. If she knew a prostate exam was a finger up the butt sort of thing, she might've had just enough knowledge to be dangerous.
Crystalinfire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:51 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The first time I went to OB/GYN was given a rectal exam too. She was the only one to do it and require it. There was notices on all the doors about it. Frankly a little weird that she was the only ob/gyn out of like 10 or 12, I've had and none other mention it or try to do it.
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:28:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking the same thing. I needed annual exams before I was sexually active because I needed the BC to control menstrual symptoms, and the OBs always did the rectal exam until I became sexually active. That made me assume things shift around a little in the vagina after starting to have sex? I guess it could also be doctor preference/education on exam style? Anyone?
shit_in_2017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:50 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC, it's something that doctors used to do regularly as part of a pelvic exam, but it's been deemed unnecessary now. I'm pretty sure it's just an old practice that some still hold on to but is no longer standard.
Brassens71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:54 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Free rectal exam with every pelvic exam!"
Sammikins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's a possibility. She told me that the doctor did put a finger up her butt and then swore it was to check her prostrate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my goodness! What in the hell!!! People need to be better educated.
theslutbaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is, women do have what is called a prostate, although for years it was called something else (a something-or-other gland, can't remember the name). Lot of debate there, though, lol
YataBLS ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 00:36:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh geez! do you have your number? I'm a expert physician in feminine prostate exams and breast cancer gropi... I mean detection.
Rising_Swell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:15:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, Sammikins would have Sammikins' number.
[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 00:32:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SinfullySinless ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With all that yeast, throw some peanut butter in there and you have a sandwich.
UndeadKitten ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeast infection?
nickofknox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:32:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably. Would hate to know how her grandmother would treat that.
UndeadKitten ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:36:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Rub some pig shit on it.
Seriously that was my granddad's "cure" for everything. He wasn't serious though, he just liked to tease us. Headache, pig shit. Broken hand, pig shit. Pregnant? Pig shit.
When my uncle got diagnosed with cancer he announced it at a holiday. Granddad was properly horrified, but when he heard it was caught early and would be okay (it was) he of course suggested the cure-all. And then we all had a laugh trying to imagine how to rub pig shit on lung cancer.
SavvySillybug ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:02:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You smoke it, obviously!
ziburinis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Using grape jelly instead of spermicidal jelly is one of the most passed around stories on conctraceptives I've heard.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:42 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like she wanted great-grandchildren
EmilyVS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:13 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GRAPE-grandchildren.
ramengirl10 ยท 914 points ยท Posted at 20:32:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is a nurse and told me about this guy with 17 kids (all girls) from 6 different women. He kept on having children because he really wanted a son- she had to explain that he was the determining factor for the baby's sex.
taway80085 ยท 1080 points ยท Posted at 20:53:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that patients name..... Henry VIII
CakeyPop155 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 22:16:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god I thought the exact same thing
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:40:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Divorced, beheaded and died.
Divorced, beheaded, survived.
https://youtu.be/9NRUWUPvSyA
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How was this not a link to Rick Wakeman?
Crystalinfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:15 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love me some Horrible Histories! A bbc kids history show that is on youtube.
TiffanyBee ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:31:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know the sad part is he didn't even have that many children, & his most successful child, Queen Elizabeth (the "Virgin Queen"), was produced by the first wife he killed off. Also, she was a girl. GirlsRc00l2d00d.
SammyD1st ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:27:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Popes hate him for discovering this one weird trick!
evil_burrito ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:38:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gettin' married to the widow next door, she's been married seven times before. And every one was an 'enery, she wouldn't have a Willy or a Sam. I'm her eighth old man, I'm 'enery, 'enery the VIII I am.
Zeebuksiev1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More like Henry IV.
Ha get it - H. IV. Because that's what he might have got. Got it? No? Ok._.
sihaya09 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:28:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Henry had two sons that survived into childhood, though.
jimmy_talent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually related to King Henry VIII in some way and my grandpa has 5 daughters and no sons.
PM_Me_Your_Schnoz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand :( can someone humor me?
HarveySpecs ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:37:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A very brief overview:
King Henry VIII had six wives.
His first and second wives were never able to give him a son, just one daughter each. He thought there was something wrong with them for not producing a son, so he divorced the first wife and had the second one beheaded.
His third wife gave him a son, but she died soon after childbirth (son eventually died at age 15). He still wanted more sons, so he kept marrying, but never did get any more (legitimate) sons. Or daughters, for that matter.
I think OP's joke was that the patient in /u/ramengirl10's story was King Henry VIII.
lordnikkon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is important to note the only reason he did not kill his first wife was because she was the daughter of the King of Spain and killing her would have led to war with Spain. It was bad enough that he had the marriage annulled and basically cast her out like a peasant
PM_Me_Your_Schnoz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:20:02 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!
digital_dysthymia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, Henry didn't have many children at all - 3 I think (Catherine, Mary and a son whose name I can't remember).
redditisadamndrug ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:47:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edward and a bastard I think was called Henry Fitzroy.
Dragonsinger16 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:20:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, though Fitzroy didn't make it to adolescence. Henry VIII probably had a fuck ton of kids, it's just most didn't go acknowledged.
_princedom_ ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 21:13:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously it's because he was having sex with women. If you have sex with a man, you get a son.
Splendidissimus ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:16:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not necessarily. Relevant Oglaf. (NSFW)
phthalochar ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:58:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Next page is the best
incipit-satan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if I want a daughter I have to go lesbian. Got it.
-Paraprax- ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 20:58:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Somewhere else in this thread there's going to be a post from somebody who went to a nurse that told them they were the determining factor in their child's sex and could only spawn girls, despite that being flagrantly untrue.
helm ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:34:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Healthy sperm is not necessary created 50/50 X and Y.
Carr0t ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:51:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well she didn't say he could only produce girls (from OPs comment, anyway), just that he was the determining factor. Which is correct, as I understand it. Egg can only be X, sperm can be X or Y, and thus make the zygote XX (female) or XY (male). If for some reason he's producing a lot more X sperm than Y sperm...
incipit-satan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:44:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a baby, my father, in a drunken rage, once denied that I was his child because "(his last name)'s don't make girls!" His parents had 4 boys, so.
(He did accept me as his own, though. I look a lot like him. Even before paternity testing was done it was obvious that I was his.)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Raineythereader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Psychologically, yes. Biologically, I'll need a source for that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:31 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Raineythereader ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:21 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"...subjects are invariably sterile."
HoodedPotato ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 20:43:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I somehow don't really get this story. Am I missing something?
EDIT: thanks for the answers guys.
aubreythez ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 21:18:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Valridagan ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:33:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm just a layman, but my guess is that either his Y chromosomes are somehow incapable if conceiving, or they are capable of conception but they introduce defects that rapidly cause the death of the fetus.
That, or he just got very unlucky. No matter which way you look at it, a different mother probably wouldn't have helped much, if at all.
pickpocketsly ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:11:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Population wide it is a 50/50 chance male/female but for individual fathers it can skew one way or the other. Something about other genes determining if they produce more Y sperm vs. X sperm.
ChocolateSporks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for explaining that. Loads of people replied about him being the reason they were girls and with my very minimal science education and awful memory I couldn't figure out what they meant.
RCN1138 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:01:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Accurate. My family on my dad's side going back as far as we can has only had male children born (without IV, which makes you more likely to have a female). Something wacky with the 'X' chromosome I guess.
Splendidissimus ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't pan out, because they wouldn't all have the same X chromosome. Each generation has the X chromosome supplied by their mother.
FrozenJedi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:05:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must be something amazing with the Y chromosome!
xgravity23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:01:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He means the X chromosome supplied by the sperm/father. Mom's eggs always give an X chromosome, and dad's sperm supply either an X or a Y to determine the sex of the child. So if the sperm carrying the X chromosome in his lineage have developed with some mutation or abnormality, only the Y sperms will fertilize the eggs or progress to successful implantation in the uterine lining, not spontaneously abort or not fertilize the egg at all ike the malformed X sperm-fertilized eggs might.
CatsAreDivine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, timing has a lot to do with it. Female sperm are stronger, so if the egg falls late it will be a girl, whereas male sperm power through sooner but die off faster. So if the egg is already in place at that point it would be likely a male sperm would reach the egg. I'm his case something is definitely off unless by some extreme chance he just so happened to manage female timing every single time.
tnuclatot ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 20:55:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man has sex with woman wanting son, gets daughter, blames woman for the babies sex, gets new woman, repeat. Some Henry VIII shit.
Lo452 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:46:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except Henry VIII had a son. Actually 2 - Edward VI (legitimate by Jane Seymour) and Henry Fitzroy (a bastard). Plus he only had 2 girls - Bloody Mary and Queen Elizabeth the 1st. So, really, he was 50/50.
He left his first wife after 5 unsuccessful births and 1 daughter. It was more finding women who could carry a child to term multiple times than getting a son.
flamedarkfire ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:34:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Beheaded, remarried, died. Beheaded, remarried, survived!Divorced, beheaded, died. Divorced, beheaded, survived!
Thank you I had them out of order.
Wake_and_Cake ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:36:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's "Divorced, beheaded, died. Divorced, beheaded, survived!" Although technically they weren't divorced, those marriages were annulled.
edit: For quotes.
SilasX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, Sir Thomas More.
Rajani_Isa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And, as I recall, the reason why there is a Church of England (The Pope started saying "No more annulments" to the king.)
LastLadyResting ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:38:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Divorced (Catherine of Aragon), beheaded (Anne Boleyn), died (Jane Seymour), divorced (Anne of Cleves), beheaded (Catherine Howards), survived (Catherine Parr).
snickers_snickers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He had so many more bastards than this. They're not all completely founded but I have an entire book dedicated to his bastard children and his many mistresses who had children during their affair. Super interesting.
Lo452 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just kept it to confirm/officially recognized for simplicity. I mean, I'm sure he had many more kids, but being they were all from affairs, people will cast doubt on it. It is interesting though, how history mis-remembers him now.
snickers_snickers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty interesting to think what that first bastard son from Bessie Blount may have ended up becoming if he hadn't died.
smallof2pieces ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 20:59:08 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He slept with 6 women in the hopes that he would have a son, not realizing that the mother didn't determine the sex of the child. I his ignorance, after the first woman had (presumably) multiple girls he moved on to another, and another, down the line trying to find a woman who would birth him a son. The irony is that in his ignorance he did not realize that his sperm decided the sex of the child and that he was the reason he had all girls, not the mothers.
fptp01 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:18:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 28 and this is a first I've heard of this. I had no idea.
JustARedditUser0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Taught in high school anatomy/genetics.
fptp01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mfw i didn't pay attention.
Korberos ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, either way he'd need to go to the next girl... he isn't going to have 17 children with one woman unless it's by some miracle.
downvoted for basic science. Cool, reddit.
fptp01 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:19:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Met a family with 12 kids, not 17 but close. Oldest was a 30 odd year old with his own kids youngest was a 7 year old girl.
Plumhawk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:22:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. My grandmother had 15 children and was pregnant 17 times. All with my grandfather.
SayceGards ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:05:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He was picking different women because he thought a different woman would increase his chance of having a boy.... I think is what they're trying to say.
BlueNotesBlues ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:39:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he wanted to speed up the process. Waiting 9 months for one baby is too long. Impregnate multiple women and you can get 6 babies per year!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:52:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
that's what I was thinking lol I bet you a whole bunch of those kids were born within months of each other. If he knocks up multiple women at once it increases the chances of him having a boy, right?
Ehmerican ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 20:53:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in the end it truly is a 50/50 chance, but if we wanna get all "annoying" about it, it's the father who gives the x or y chromosome aka it's the fathers "fault" (not really his fault though because it's a 50/50 chance, but the 50/50 is coming from him)
travellingscientist ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:18:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a population yes but there are definitely people who are more prone to giving an x or giving a y. So not really 50/50 for each individual.
Ehmerican ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 21:24:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not the point i was trying to make i was trying to save it's not really a "fault" of anyone. it's just life
GaarDnous ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:01:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's his fault as in "he is the reason he keeps having daughters", not as in "he's doing something wrong or blameworthy".
Ehmerican ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes that's what i meant thank you for clarifying
Tehrin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:03:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dont think you understand chance %. Nobody in the world will be exactly 50/50, you would have to have an exactly equal amount of x and y sperm, some could be 80/20 - unless you are simply referring to schrodinger's chance which all of them are both x and y until proven otherwise.
Elfere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually a litteral above 50% chance for a boy...
But there's an even split of men vs women in adults. Yup. And male teenagers are more likely than women to do stupid stuff and die.
Evolution. You're so cool.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, it's not.
There are some cases where a genetic female ends up anatomically male: it's rare, and you won't find out unless you do DNA work on them, but it does exist. And these people are genetically unable to have sons.
If this man was one of them (the alternative is the ~ 1 in 131 072 chance, assuming a 50-50 split, that he's just unlucky), he would never have a child. And it is his "fault", for some definition of fault.
iulioh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
XXY?
ZacQuicksilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
XXY could have sons.
There are cases - and it's worth noting here that we don't know how common: it could be that the ~1% increased rate of male births are due to this, or it could be very rare - where a person who is genetically XX for whatever reason ends up developing as a male. The main reason is what is known as XX Male Syndrome, which also tends to result in sterility or low libido; so that's probably not the case here. However, there have been (isolated) cases of men without XX Male Syndrome (read that link: it's a specific case) who are XX; and while fertile, can't have sons.
iprobably8it ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:18:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same situation as King Henry VIII, really. He bangs a lady, she pops out a girl. Does it again, and another girl. Assumes the problem is with the lady ; partly because he doesn't know how Chromosomes work, and partly because human brains like to protect themselves and their confidence by ascribing all possible problems to external factors whenever possible.
In case you also don't know, women have XX Chromosomes and men have XY chromosomes. In the childmaking process, the woman can only contribute an X, while the man has a basically 50/50 chance of tossing an X or Y in there, and that determines the sex of the baby.
Now, the guy in this situation doesn't know that, and he's blaming the lady for only making girls in her magic baby factory. He goes and finds a different lady, thinking that the first lady's magic baby factory is permanently switched to girl-mode. Same thing happens. He does this over and over and over again, with 6 different women, all trying to get one with a magic baby factory that'll make a baby boy to carry his name on into the future. Because that's important to him for reasons he probably couldn't articulate if you asked.
The only difference between him and Henry the VIII is that because divorce is perfectly legal, he didn't have to kill any of the mothers of his many daughters in order to try out a different magic baby factory.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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iprobably8it ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured I'd keep things basic. Which is why I used the word basically.
caitsith01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The guy is sleeping with different women trying to get a son, but only the male can contribute the Y chromosome required to achieve this.
kidsareallfuckedup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:41:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just before I was discharged a nurse told me a story about a lady that was once in the hospital giving birth to her 14th child. So her and the husband decided they didn't want to know the gender of their baby and hoped it would be a boy. So the day comes and the lady gives birth; the doctor congratulates them on their beautiful baby girl. Eventually lady and her husband get left alone and the nurse walked in on the wife getting insulted by the husband. The husband told her that it was her fault that that she didn't couldn't give him any sons and that he was going to leave her and find another woman to give her the son he's always wanted. So the lady starts crying asking for forgiveness and saying she tried so hard to give them a son. The nurse gets angry hearing this so she decided to get the Doctor who delivered the baby for the couple. Doctor walks in and proceeds to tell the husband that it wasn't the wife's fault for her only having daughters. The husband gets angry and still insists that it was her fault. The Doctor had to explain to him that it was his sperm that decided to gender and that females are just the receiver of it. That females have no choice whatsoever and are the ones who end up paying the price for it by suffering endless hours pain trying to bring a new life into this world. So no matter how many females he slept with he probably will never give birth to a son especially considering that he has 14 daughters now and he should the only one to blame for only having daughters. The nurse said that the guy ended up apologizing to his wife and said that this was their last child.
GodotIsWaiting4U ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could there be a meiotic problem making his Y-chromosome sperm cells unfit? Because it sounds like there's something stopping him from having sons.
Deadpoolssistersarah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Big dick get sons, little dick get daughters
wbgraphic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have four older half-sisters and one older brother.
I amuse myself by thinking that Dad really wanted a son, so left his first wife after she produced only daughters. After having my brother with my mom, he thought, "fucked up that time, better try again". I was born, he thought "finally got it right", and stopped making babies.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in a hospital lab where patients would drop off sperm samples in the plastic cups. One time a guy showed up there, no cup, no doctor's orders. He just thought we'd be able to look at his sperm under the microscope to tell him if he made boys or girls.
Psycosilly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hate when parents play gender lottery. My parents ended up with 3 girls before my mom said that was enough and had her tubes tied. My dad wanted to keep trying for a boy.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, was your mom the RN in charge of Henry VIII?
DragonSlayerYomre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, what are the odds of that?
7.63 * 10-6
(For reference, that is roughly equivalent to rolling a dice and getting the same amount seven times in a row)
Edit:
Bonus stats! The likelihood of having a male child in less than 17 kids is 0.999992. The likelihood of having a male child in 17 kids or more is 3.8147 * 10-6 .
Trumpstered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if the women would quit killing off all the Y semens to make it in there, maybe one of them would be victorious.
But seriously the odds of having 17 girls in a row is incredibly small when explained just by simple math in terms of a coin flip. Something else medically was going on.
kaenneth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
1:131072ish odds if random, is there a condition that causes only female babies for a man?
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are some studies that have show a strong correlation to a woman's stress levels and likelihood to have female babies:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/8830036/Stressed-women-more-likely-to-have-baby-girls.html
ELDRITCH_HORROR ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:33:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, this doesn't seem right at all.
Just because he has a lot of sex, doesn't mean his children will.
Enjoy your downvote.
ramengirl10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Biological sex.
ELDRITCH_HORROR ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:14:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
sarcasm
JustARedditUser0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Well shit.
ELDRITCH_HORROR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
u wot m8
slushysnowman ยท -37 points ยท Posted at 20:38:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You realise what you are saying is false right?
StudlyMadHatter ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 20:46:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's false about it? Male is the carrier of the X vs. Y chromosome, so yes, he was the determining factor (not that he could do anything about it, of course).
slushysnowman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:10:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True but initial comment seemed to be implying that more kids would not increase chances of a boy when it, in reality, should.
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:45:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the man has 17 girls, and no boys. There's a good chance that there's something wrong with his Y.
CaptainNuge ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:51:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nonsense. It's a 51-49 chance, it's not caused by defective Y chromosomes. That dude is the equivalent of the guy who wants to flip heads and gets tails 20 times in a row. It's unlikely, but perfectly possible.
BonkeyKongCountry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Assuming a 50/50 split between girls and boys, the odds of 17 girls in a row is 1 in 131,072.
Lazerr ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:45:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is it false?
fatflatfish ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:49:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is that false? To have a male child it requires the 'male' or 'Y' chromosome...women don't have that only men do therefore only men can produce male offspring, so technically he is the determining factor when it comes to the sex of his children. Unless human biology has changed dramatically since i was in school.
Punk_Says_Fuck_You ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it has.
feeju ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:53:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how so? the father's sperm determine the sex of the baby he has no control over the process but this is what /u/ramengirl10 essentialy said
slushysnowman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He is the determining factor but it's just random. So surely by having more kids because he wants a boy he is actually doing the right thing.
It could be that I misread the initial comment and that the guy was trying with different women to have a boy meaning that he thinks a different woman could have an effect, but that'd not how the comment is obviously meant to read.
feeju ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:07:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
he was changing women in hopes that one could bear him a son. obviously didnt know how human reproduction works. this is not uncommon in 3rd world countries
slushysnowman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the comment doesn't say that though, it just says he kept trying having kids to get a boy which is where i misunderstood
feeju ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:36:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was pretty obvious to me. different way of perception i guess
Jaloss ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:47:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He's right, if the guys gives a x chromosome, it's a girl, if he gives a y chromosome, it's a boy
Noirly4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:38:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the father determines the sex of a baby. a woman gives two X chromosomes, and the male gives either an X or a Y. XX means girl, XY means boy. what did you think was untrue about the comment?
adrianmakedonski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they mean something to do with the Y chromosome but it still doesn't make any sense.
SanshaXII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please enlighten us.
slushysnowman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:08:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never mind, from the responses to my comment i think i may have been interpreting the initial comment wrong.
I thought they were saying that trying more times would not help because he could only 'produce' girls.
In reality it seems the comment is saying that he was trying with different women hoping one of them could give him a boy.
Technically more kids means higher chance of boy no matter the mother but hey. I'll take my downvotes.
10261991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How so?
rodrick160 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, not entirely. Men have X and Y, women have X and X. So to get a male the man has to give his Y. But even if it were vice versa, a woman switching partners, it would have the same likelyhood.
slushysnowman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:30 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I get the whole x and y thing i think the initial comment was just worded badly
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wowwwww. What a stupid idiot.
sedaak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So what are you saying, that he was only supplying Xs? It doesn't matter if he is the determining factor if conventional wisdom is a 50/50 chance. This is giving you a pass and completely ignoring the environmental factors inside a women that influence the swim paths of x vs y sperm, none of which can be researched by any method I am aware of.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats a cool story, but don't see how it fits here, thats not something id expect a random person to know.
AnnaB264 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really? That something I thought most people with a basic education would know.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:50:04 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, why would they remember info they probably never have to use? Maybe I'm underestimating the average person but i wouldn't even expect someone to know which sex has which chromosomes of the top of their head. I'd guess most ppl would know one is XX and one is XY but not know which is which.
elitist_user ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:25:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Have you ever heard of trivia type games? Every question is a bit of random knowledge that you don't remember that you know.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True, but would you expect a random person on the street to be able to answer a any trivia question?
TheDentateGyrus ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:34:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother. She thought we are big bags of blood. By that, I mean no arteries / veins, when you get stabbed it's like popping a hole in the bag and blood just spurts out like a hole in a dam.
DrVerdandi ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:46:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Emergency nurse practitioner here. Had a patient once with a bowel obstruction, and we were placing a nasogastric tube to suction so the patient didn't have to continue puking their guts up. The family (consisting of an adult daughter and son) wanted to know why it was necessary to put the patient through an NG tube. This is totally a reasonable question, because placing an NG tube is pretty traumatic!
I explained that because the gut contents cannot move forward past the obstruction, they were backing up and causing the patient to vomit. They stared at me blankly. I asked a few questions to clarify what part they didn't understand...and it turns out they didn't have the basic fundamental understanding that the food you put in your mouth travels downward through the stomach and intestines, then exits as feces.
I tried to explain this process very quickly, very basically (think elementary school health class). I was met with further blank stares, then "Could this be because of some cold cuts they ate this morning?"
I couldn't bring myself to just say "YES, IT WAS THE HAM." I just didn't say anything. Just told them "No, not really" and left it at that.
moxiered ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:18:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... where... where did they think the shit came from?
DrVerdandi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:22:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will never know.
brassonion ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:10:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I worked with a guy who used to spray Lisol spray down his throat believing it would kill any bacteria in his throat. We pleaded with him to see his Doc. which he did. The can of lysol vanished from under his bench. He must have got a real dressing down by his Doc. and would not talk about it again.
rocked_licker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:10:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lysol was originally used as a douche...
http://m.motherjones.com/media/2012/02/when-women-used-lysol-birth-control
Geaux-le-Tigre ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:29:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a 23 year old female come to the ER complaining she hadn't had her period in a few months. I asked her if she could be pregnant. She said she always pee'd the sperm out like her boyfriend said, so no she could be pregnant. She said this with quite a bit of attitude. I explained to her that's not how it works, nicely. She disappeared before her pregnancy test came back, but it was positive.
Edit: On a similar note, I once had someone ask me if her baby/fetus could get pregnant from her having sex, but she was only 16 or 17.
pi123263 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think you made a mistake there, you propably meant
lowhangingfruitcake ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:48:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Praise Jesus: it's malignant!"
Oh dear.
killerofcheese ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:00:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, praise Jesus.
Br00kinator ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 03:14:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom had to explain to a guy that just because your penis extends because of blood flow it does not mean it's a good place to inject meth. They had to filet it open to cut out the infection that took over. Nasty jazz.
nanna_mouse ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:30:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just got a phantom pain in my non-existent penis.
eazolan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:09:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, my vision grew dim there for a moment.
Krosis927 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:34:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read almost every story up until this point in the comments. I almost had to stop after reading that one O_o
pbabinea ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy in his mid-fifties come in for blood sugar screening. He was at ~18 mmol/l, which is VERY high. He didn't have any symptoms and claimed to have a fairly regular diet. Then he remembered that his wife had made a batch of pralines (basically pure sugar) and he had eaten "about 35" in the hour before coming in. He was beyond perplexed when I told him to never again eat a fucking pound of sugar in an hour.
allyourbase51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, I can hardly eat three, let alone "about 35."
MeMyselfAnDie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:53:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, where are you located? mmol/L is not a unit I'm familiar with. I'm type 1 diabetic and my equipment and doctors refer to blood sugar in mg/dL, so I'm curious if it's a regional thing.
pbabinea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:23:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in the US. I used mmol/L (millimoles per liter) in this post since it is an international standard measurement. I can't remember the last time I've seen it used in the US outside of an academic setting though. For comparison, 18 mmol/L is roughly 325 mg/dL.
wreckingballheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably in a commonwealth country.
emayelee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:58 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse from Finland here. Normal morning blood sugar before eating is around 4,0 to 5,5 so sometimes I have to guesstimate what other unit users mean when they say their blood sugar is high (or low) and it is in the hundreds.
iscariot_13 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:58:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, and this post is old enough that no one will see this, but what the hell.
Many years ago, in my early 20s, I was working retail at a store with a mostly older, mostly female employee base. For reasons I will never remember, hymens came up in conversation in the break room. We were a close knit, family like group. So it was odd but not out of bounds.
Anyway, the conversation ends and almost everyone has left the break room. Just me and a woman I'll call M left. She sneaks up to me and asks quietly "Um, what's a hymen?"
All I could do was blink for a solid 2 or 3 minutes. This woman was in her 50s(40s maybe?) and had not one, not two, but three teenage daughters.
I'm still baffled by this.
-theuser- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:27:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's all blink along, 'cause that's just...
..phew.
sev0036 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 05:08:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a pharmacy student and one of the pharmacist I worked with at one time told me about a patient who came in for counseling on NuvaRing use (it's an intrauterine contraceptive shaped like a large ring that is changed by the patient each month). So the lady asks her how long for it to take effect and the pharmacist was explaining the process to her when she just happens to look down and see something very strange. She then asks the patient if the doctor told her at all how to insert the device, and the lady responded "what do you mean? I'm not an idiot. I can put a bracelet on". The next 40 minutes were spent explaining that it was supposed to be inserted like a tampon and not like bracelet.
enocc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:22:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the woman on House who used her inhaler by spraying her neck
CatsEye99 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:53:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or the person up above who told that story as their own.
ihateflyingthings ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:07:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's dozens of them actually.
Aggressivecleaning ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:49:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a hospital. Please just trust me when I say people actually do that.
sev0036 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like I said, not my personal story. It was told to me. But I did ask in class today if that was common and was told that it's VERY common unfortunately.
lydialost ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:35:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
hahahahaha... oh... i can see that. They DO look like bracelets....
Localyptica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:16 on January 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure it isn't intrauterine. It only goes into your vagina and not past your cervix.
Dawesy182 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 12:07:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More just a doctors story but thought i would share anyway. My dad is a GP and he told me a story about a former colleague. The GP worked in a surgery where they pressed a button and this would notify reception to send the next patient through. He pressed the button a waited a few minutes. Nobody came in so he pressed the button again. Still nothing. Eventually, after a few more button presses, a man and a woman walk in. The doctor sits them down and proceeds to ask a few normal questions. The man had come in for a prostate exam. The doctor asks him to take his trousers down and bend over whilst he puts his gloves on. He then proceeds to check this man's prostate. Everything seems in order and the man puts his trousers back on and sits down. The doctor tells him everything is fine. The doctor says goodbye and opens the door for the man and woman to leave. The man walks out however the woman stays seated. The doctor says are you not going with your husband? She says it's not his husband and has never seen him before in her life. She had sat there quietly and watched this man receive a prostate exam. It turns out that pressing the button so many times had meant the receptionist had sent through the next two patients who happened to arrive together.
TL;DR: A doctor gives a prostate exam to a man with some woman in the room who he assumed was the man's wife. It turns out it was the next patient who had been sent through at the same time as the man.
CatsInSpaceSwag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That made my life.. HAHAHAHAHA she just sat there... probably wondering "could this day get any worse"
TabulaRasaNot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMGawd, this is hilarious. I really hope it's true. Freakin' brilliant!
theweirdbeard ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 23:14:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with adults with mental illness. Once had to have a conversation with a client trying to explain that cigarettes are not food. For context, we were going grocery shopping, and when I asked him what he planned to get, he said, "just root beer and cigarettes." When I told him that wasn't food, he said, "well, agree to disagree." I made sure he got food. So, it might not seem surprising that a person with severe mental illness would think like this, but this guy could eat. He ate a lot, and enjoyed eating. He knew that he had to eat. But for some reason, he honestly thought that cigarettes were food.
TrapFiend ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:50:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I know cigarettes aren't food but they definitely stop your hunger. There have been times where the family didn't have enough food so the youngest ones got the food and the oldest got cigarettes to subside the hunger until there was more food. I get where he's coming from.
FakeCecil ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, for the cost of a single pack of smokes, you can buy 12,356 packs of Ramen noodles!
UndeadKitten ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:10:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For the cost of a single pack of smokes here, you can have 14 packs of ramen.
Source:
Did the math. Have realized once again that I am too poor to every start smoking.
Sphingomyelinase ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:59:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cigarettes cost more than basic food?
UndeadKitten ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:09:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They didn't always, my cousin used to be able to get two packs, plus a soda and have change from a $10. (This would've been early 90s)
Of course, her family was fed before cigarettes were bought. And she actually quit for six months when money was too tight.
Lt_Duckweed ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:50:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You do realize that with $10 I can buy like 5 pounds of beans and 10 pounds of rice right?
TrapFiend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No but an addict is an addict whether they have kids to feed or not.
theweirdbeard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:11:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, he wasn't trying to suppress his appetite, he actually thought they qualified as food.
TrapFiend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God help his body and soul because there's no hope for his brain.
p0tat07 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:25:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe everyone else is using them wrong
TubaJesus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is a guy who grew up on candy cigarettes like my parents did.
Leohond15 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have only ever heard "cigarettes are food" from anorexics but there's seemingly no explanation as to why he believed that.
Somebody_81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It could have been because they're sold in a grocery store and grocery stores are where you buy food. There's a certain logic to it, just not one that most of us would follow.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Perry?
theweirdbeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nope.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'In Cold Blood' joke.
intentsman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How many cigarettes does he eat in a meal?
theweirdbeard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He would literally smokes cigarettes all fucking day if he could. Oh, and btw, this man also had a shunt in his heart and a persisting heart condition.
meat_eating_midwife ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 00:23:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse midwife here. I had a couple once who wasn't getting pregnant, had been married 8 years. I did the typical work up, taught them about signs of fertility, recommended a book and to track cycles. They came back a month later pregnant and confessed that before the book, they had never had intercourse. She figured "it didn't need to go IN there".
rocked_licker ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:52:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you feel a little bit guilty...they obviously shouldn't be reproducing.
lowdiver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, totally off topic but I'm working on my undergrad now with hopes to become a midwife- anything you wish you'd known/done?
mvsr990 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:44:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Roommate was talking about how she often had unprotected sex in non-monogamous situations because condoms irritated her vagina for days afterward. I had to explain the concept of a latex allergy and the alternative jimmy hats to a woman who had been sexually active for 12 years.
shit_in_2017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:47 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. Jimmy hats.
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That makes me feel bad for her! How miserable!
MissTypaTypa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It IS. I thankfully figure this out after the first time... I'm not sure at all how this woman went 12 years!!
FrankieLeeG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It happens, sadly women aren't taught about it.
Back when I was 16, I started suffering from quite intense pain after intercourse. My then-boyfriend and I had been given extensive sexual health lessons at school but as we were each other's 'firsts,' we didn't really know what to expect. This went on until I was 18, and it was so bad I ended up being rushed to A&E. I thought pain=STDs, and as both of us had been virgins before dating I dismissed it and let it escalate.
...and that's how I ended up with scarred Fallopian tubes at 18. There was no excuse for it really, I had some awareness that sex probably shouldn't be that painful but was horribly embarrassed. I thought there was something wrong with me 'down there' and unfortunately my fear trumped health. Doubly stupid as my mum is super chill and would've figured it out straight away with no qualms.
It did get me tested for other allergies though, and it turns out I'm basically incompatible with everything. Years of miserable GI and skin issues solved when my GP had been refusing to acknowledge them.
MissTypaTypa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:52:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aww. I'm only allergic to a few medicines and latex. Honestly, I figured it out very fast from oral... my mouth went completely numb. I only wish id had that reaction downtown. Unfortunately it wasn't so plessant. It was a quick deduction for me after that point.
Eroe777 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 01:41:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a nurse I once had to explain this to a DOCTOR:
Guy comes in with a festering wound on his thigh where he had been injecting Adderall. Doc debrided it in the ER and sent him to my floor with, among other things, an order for Heparin (blood thinner/anticoagulant) shots every 8 hours. Naturally this gaping wound in his leg keeps bleeding like crazy and is painful as hell. So I call the doc, update him on the patient's condition and request an increase in his pain meds. Doc obliges and then says, almost as an afterthought, 'I wonder why it keeps bleeding?' My reply was something along the lines of 'I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the Heparin you ordered.' He laughed and had me discontinue it.
Edit: added a description of what heparin does.
ColonelKeyboard ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heparin is part of almost every admission order set. It's entirely possible he ordered it without even realizing it. One of the (few) downsides to automated order sets and EMR.
Eroe777 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All of us on the floor raised an eyebrow at the heparin order as it was not a very common admission order in Med-Surg (we mostly saw it in Ortho for patients who had a joint replaced), especially for a patient with an open, freshly debrided wound. I was still a pretty new nurse at that time and was still uncomfortable questioning a doctor's order. Fortunately I had the right combination of snark in my question combined with a very good natured doc.
Mgmegadog ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For context, you might want to mention what Heparin does. (I assume it thins the blood, among other things.)
faco_fuesday ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:27:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
PREVENT DVTS AT ALL COSTS THO??!!??
-Hospital administration probably.
DukeMaximum ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor and I could connect those dots.
pink-pink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
was he a dumbass, or was he trying to punish the patient?
faco_fuesday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heparin prevents blood clots. Being in a hospital and sick and less mobile than usual are all risk factors for developing blood clots, so they order low doses of heparin on basically every admitted patient. Generally it's automatic and you have to specifically change the initial order if you don't want them to have it.
[deleted] ยท 467 points ยท Posted at 20:59:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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cerebellum0 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 22:11:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That last one. It's hard to understand unless you witness it. The infections, the pneumonia, the UTIs and pressure sores. It's just terrible. People just want to keep grandma around longer.
eljo555 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:29:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a physical therapist, our facility was half SNF and half Acute rehab. When the owners (Vibra) saw the profit in LTAC, they demolished the Acute Rehab, did a full remodel for LTAC, a chamber of horrors, that also left our communtiy without an acute rehab facility. LTAC- a money-making scheme for all. I'm a music teacher now.
MsCNO ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:32:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Work in an LTAC. The things I see...heartbreaking
DCromo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:17:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the 'i don't have high blood pressure anymore!'
'what medicine do you take?'
'metopropol'
pylori ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:17:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ramipril? oh i just take that to protect my kidneys, i don't actually have high blood pressure, you can see it's normal!
gneissboulder ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:24:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you explain that last one? Had a quick google but I don't quite understand. And when the hell did you have to explain smoking was a bad thing?
notinmyjohndra ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:13:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If tubes are the only thing keeping you alive, maybe it's time to consider end of life care.
WoefulMe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:27:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It bothers me that we don't allow euthanasia in the US. We allow pets to be spared from suffering and allowed to die with dignity, but we allow loved ones waste away. It sickens me.
notinmyjohndra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:17:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the bigger issue is people's inability to let their loved ones go. We don't need euthanasia, we need to celebrate the natural process of death.
caninuswhitus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:28:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vent support = ventilation support, mechanical assistance for breathing (either via oral intubation or tracheotomy), tube feed is when they cannot swallow so you get your food via a tube that is possibly a direct tube through abdomen into the stomach. If you are on a vent, you cannot swallow therefore need tube feeds. Basically, these are patients who are in bed all day, getting help from a machine to breathe and eat. LTAC facilities are Long Term Acute Care that are a step down from a hospital. These patients are at high risk for infections, pneumonia, and bed sores due to immobility and no natural lung function. These people also cannot talk due to the vent.
rapbattlechamp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:20:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an SLP in a SNF and I see minimally responsive patients with a PEG tube who live indefinitely. It sucks.
Jamessuperfun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:02:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wtf is an ltac
guacamoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think we want to know.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:38:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a coder and read charts all day long. As fucked up as it sounds, I cry whenever I read that they've inserted a rectal tube. Here your family member is riddled with PICCs, getting CVVH, on a vent or even ECMO, sternal rubs, etc. and the rectal tube just seems like such an insult to injury at that point. Just let them die with dignity.
cerebellum0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:25 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A rectal tube is the least of their problems. They can actually be a relief, they promote healing when skin is broken down, and help people rest better because they aren't constantly laying in their stool. It's just draining like any other drain. Obviously not naturally what you want, but it can be of great help to sick people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:16 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I know it's purpose. I just feel like it's just the ultimate humiliation at that point, for me it would be at least I guess
journeybitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This. As an ICU nurse, I see way too much of this. It's what will make me quit ICU and move hospice.
awfullyawful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Wheredoesthetoastgo2 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:46:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heathy at every size sweaty (except skinny tee hee) /s
pillowcase121 ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 21:17:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor or a medic of any kind.
Some years ago, I discovered that a 20something year old woman believed that women gave birth from their backsides. So basically...women shit out their babies.
[deleted] ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 21:40:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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CupcakeMom ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:18:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and I laugh about the moment during me giving birth to our daughter when I suddenly got very serious looked directly at my husband and said, "Well, I honestly believe I was wrong all these years, the baby does come out your asshole." And then I went back to the hard work of pushing out a kid while my husband died laughing and the nurse assuring me I was not actually pooping out my daughter.
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xgravity23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:15:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents didn't talk much about sex and child birth, but Dad is a GP so I had a fairly good idea about how things worked. I had a friend whose mom was very open with them (and any kids who were there). She told us having a baby is like shitting out a watermelon, and tbh it confused me for a while!
Tea_Junkie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:14:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my sister shit herself while giving birth. It makes me laugh, i don't like my sister so i love everything like that :D
xgravity23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:16:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard something like 80% of women shit during childbirth because labor uses the same muscles. Any OB-GYNs or L&D nurses here to confirm?
Tea_Junkie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
it's pretty high from what i remember because the urge to push feels exactly like the need to poop. anyone who has anything ready is gonna push it out lol
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's kinda what I thought.
Note to self: take a shit before I go to the hospital when I'm in labor.
Tea_Junkie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:27:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
to be fair pooping is the last thing on your mind lol
jens07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
True story.
Gonzobot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:12:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poop is definitely involved though
Benana ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:58:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I knew somebody who described sex as when you take a girl into the boy's bathroom and pee in their butts. But he was 7 years old when he said it.
dyld921 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean some people are into that, so he wasn't totally off.
Kartavious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, they just shit the bed during labor.
ziburinis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:32:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be surprised how many adult women think this. They aren't told that there are three holes down there. They never stop to think about where urine, blood, and crap comes from and where a dick goes in. Then the baby comes, it feels like it comes from your ass, so apparently babies come from the poop chute just like eggs come from in birds.
Alatar1313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It can happen in people too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_cloaca
CatsAreDivine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks to commenters, I am 100% OK with two c-sections now ๐
RDF50 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe Mrs. Trump...
evil_burrito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must have had chickens growing up.
BarneyFifesSchlong ยท 487 points ยท Posted at 21:22:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I play one on TV. My sister asked "So what's the deal with milk, is it like cow pee?" She was 25.
x3sonjae ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 23:39:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor Drake Ramoray?
JobberTrev ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:42:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please be careful around elevators
BarneyFifesSchlong ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:44:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's me.
With-a-Cactus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:09:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, his twin brother Striker.
uniqueusernameone ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:28:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you get advice from doctors / health care professionals when shooting a scene, to make it realistic and correct?
AgainstTheTides ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:41:52 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How's Aunt Bea's pie?
quistissquall ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:01:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
so what happens when your sister has a baby and wanted to give it 'milk'? lol
LeftZer0 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:41:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was golden.
bobthemighty_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:23:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What show? Or are you just fucking with me
bdk1417 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:46:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think Joey from Friends has that line.
Ockvil ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:27:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a reference to this old commercial. I believe it caused an outcry and FCC regulations were changed so that advertisers couldn't do things like it any more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts0XG6qDIco
billyntheclonasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NPH is that you?!
canary529041 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:07:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in kindergarten, a kid told me milk was cow pee during lunch, and I believed him. Honestly, I think everyone at our table believed him. We continued sipping our milk anyway.
Swordildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:06 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you from Asia? A lot of Asian countries don't have adults drinking milk in their culture.
brycdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr.Oz?
etree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What show?
Nutellafountain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Milk is derived from sweat, sorry everyone.
LuxLoser ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 23:00:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father was a dialysis technician and a Nurse for over a decade. Actually had to explain to more than one co-worker where the kidneys are.
Desirai ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:18:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm currently a healthcare student (doing healthcare management) and in my medical terminology and biology classes, I am appalled at the number of hopeful nursing students who cheat their way through the classes.
Crafty_Chica ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:44:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me very uneasy about going to the doctor. shudder
Desirai ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:38:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is an incredible amount of nursing students who don't give a shit about you. they are 100% there for the money. It makes me sick. I thought about going into nursing, because I legitimately care about people. But I honestly don't have the guts to do some of the things a nurse has to do.
ORPeregrine ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 05:42:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Friend is an MD at a small hospital, he walks into work on the day after Election Day and hears his NP crowing about how President Trump is going to repeal Obamacare. He is stunned and asks what about all our patients who's only form of insurance is the Affordable Care Act? Her response was that she was talking about Obamacare, not the ACA...
Edit: spellzing
killerofcheese ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:53:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For anyone who doesn't know, they're the same thing.
pi123263 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:32:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a non american. Thanks.
mttdesignz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the story would have made very little sense if they weren't the same thing..
Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NP = nurse practitioner?
ORPeregrine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah.
TaedW ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 00:22:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I was one of those patients. I had an ear infection, so I went to the doctor, who took a look, and quickly diagnosed it, wrote a prescription, and handed it to me.
The doctor had no reaction, just said their deadpan goodbye and left. I've wondered if they didn't get it, didn't think it was funny, or had heard it hundreds of times before.
[I posted this years ago to no significant reaction. I assure you that it's a true story.]
LexicanLuthor ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:52:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aural route - via ear
Oral route - via mouth
To make matters worse, a LOT of docs cursive A's look like O's
TaedW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:30 on March 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but it was a verbal interaction (even though I said that I read it), so "aural" sounds like "oral". That must also end up with a fair amount of confusing interactions in the sex trade.
NeuroTrip ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:55:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If its any conciliation, if I was your doctor I would laugh.
Airship_Captain ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:25:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL that conciliation and consolation are two different things
xgravity23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too!! In fact, I'm gonna figure out how to use this...
solamenteuna ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:23:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jeez, not even a courtesy laugh?
riptaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm willing to bet he didn't think it was funny
TaedW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:12 on March 7, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For what it's worth, the doctor was female.
Moomookittycow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:56 on July 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The doctor had no sense of humor, lol.. I liked the anal joke!
Kittehluh ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 01:17:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's unfortunate that I am late to the party & my comment will never be seen.
I will still attempt though.
I will start off by stating I am not a doctor but I do work at a doctors office.
So a person came in with conjunctivitis. They proceeded to ask questions on how it was transmitted. With the most serious look on their face, they asked if it was contagious and can be passed on by glare.
While this is hilarious, take a minute to think, WHAT IF ANYTHING WAS CONTAGIOUS BY GLARE. That would be so god damn frightening...
SavvySillybug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:52:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, you know what they say, looks can kill...
Pyroscoped ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:53:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BITES ZA DUSTO
RyanTheCynic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:32:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If anything was transmissible that way, everyone would have it.
I glare at people far too much.
10099 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:41:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have the worst RBF. I would be patient zero.
RyanTheCynic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How have I come this far in life and never encountered RBF (had to google it)
10099 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the RBF club, other patient zero.
TheLurkingMenace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:42:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda puts a new meaning to the phrase "dirty look."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:07:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were they Greek? My entire family swears every ailment is caused by the evil eye. Headaches, hangovers, cancer. That damn evil eye.
vasnormandee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:38:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother actually told my sister & me that we could get pink eye from looking at someone who had it. It was her way of making sure we didn't touch them to transmit the bacteria. To this day I avert my gaze if someone has pink eye, even though I know it's a load of crap. I'm 23.
thealmightydes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, there are lots of superstitions around "the evil eye"...
DocGerbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bt blinking and yawning are transmissible by staring
cubonelvl69 ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 23:40:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad's 60 year old friend went to a vet with his dog. The doctor said come back the next day with stool. He came back with a bar stool from his kitchen
invent_or_die ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:54:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh come now
taveren4 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:44:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/dadjokes
SavvySillybug ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:41:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This thread is seriously making me wonder why doctors even have fancy medical words that they use when talking to patients.
"come back next day with stool" Who even says that? I'm 25 and never really looked it up, I'm not even certain if that's specifically piss or shit, or either. I looked it up now though, it's shit.
"are you sexually active" You're literally already saying sex. Don't wrap it in -ually active. Do you have sex? Message got across. If still confused, ask if they fuck. "Oh no I'm not sexually active, I just lay there"
"take these pills" A good portion of this thread is "I shoved birth control pills up my vagina why am I pregnant". Why not just 'eat one of these pills every morning'. Omf. People know how to eat. Put it in your mouth and swallow.
"Your bone is fractured" Well is it broken? Fractured...? Is it split in half? Fractured sounds like a leaking bucket, and not a bucket that split in half. Words like broken or cracked seem like much better alternatives.
CantStandBullshit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:07:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, admittedly, using the word "stool" as a reference to solid waste is pretty bizarre. The word has a long lineageโGerman, Frisian, Norse and Lithuanianโwherein it has always described a chair. And, on top of that, it also means chair in English.
It's bad enough that those of us in the layman's world have to deal with this lingual ridiculousness; technical fieldsโlike medicineโare much more susceptible to harm from the double meaning.
Especially while words such as "excrement", "feces" or even just "poop" are more readily understood without ambiguity.
bonebrokemefix85 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:38:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A classmate during med school thought, for some reason, she could become pregnant from dry humping...fully clothed. As in both of them grinding their bits while in jeans was a risky situation. She was exceedingly "book smart", but apparently lacked sense. I haven't seen her in years, but I'm hoping she figured that one out before providing sexual education to adolescents.
geodebug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously not that risky but I guess if they kept grinding after he came some of his semen could theoretically be pushed through all the clothing and make contact with her pubic area. Even then it would be quite a feat for it to swim up to the right place.
bonebrokemefix85 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:58:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean several of the swimmers would have to make it through his undies, his outerwear, her outerwear, her undies, in to the vag and then make the arduous trek to the egg on one of the few plausible days to get preggers. I'm sure there's some astronomical chance, but come on. Haha
Polar87 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Leohond15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In high school we had a teacher who looked like she had been dead 6 months already. She was about 80 and chain smoked, and I mean she would literally sometimes take TWO smoke breaks during a 45 minute class period. Oh, and she was also on an oxygen tank that she carried around. People would take bets on when she would blow up.
_mommabear_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The conversation or the explosions happen once a week? :)
skellytonsss ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:13:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends (27 years old) thought you were supposed to leave your tampon in the plastic applicator...I don't know the proper name. She couldn't understand why the tampon kept falling out and chalked it up to her having a loose vagina. I had to pretty much give her the talk
ouijabore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend like that! Only we were 17/18...we were talking about periods and she said her tampons kept "falling out."
specialred ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 01:24:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When my wife and I were trying for a baby I went to get a sperm count. While sitting in the waiting room a man who didn't speak English went to check in. The nurse called the translation line and put it on speakerphone so the whole lobby could hear. As they are going through the questions the came to "when was the last time you ejaculated". The professional interpreter didn't know what ejaculated means and the nurse fumbled around explaining it for five minutes before just finally saving when did he cum last
jem77v ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 01:43:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Young woman came to see us in the ER with her mother with abdominal pain. Very difficult to get a decent history from her. We did a few tests which were unremarkable but she was obviously in a bit of pain. While her mother went to move the car I asked her a few more sensitive questions.
Turns out she'd had sex the day before and the guys condom had come off but not out. Unable to extract it herself she turned to her best friend for advice who turned out to have the solution.
She ultimately settled on buying a 1 L bottle of Coke, shaking it up and opening the lid as she inserted it down below. The idea being the eruption of soda should be enough to flush the culprit out. All that ended up happening was she gave herself peritonitis and earned herself a day or two in hospital.
The condom I managed to recover after a brief search.
When I explained what was happening she didn't seem convinced. "But isn't that just the same as a guy cumming inside you, how come I don't get pain then?" I pretty much left it at that.
rigsta ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:57:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn son no wonder the condom came off.
Alternate response: One of those things is supposed to go in there, the other is not.
AvocadosAtLaw95 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:00:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who, whilst training as a doctor, did a stint in gynaecology/family planning, etc
They had a couple in, who had been trying for over a year to get pregnant, to no avail. He and the consultant worked for a bit, asking several questions.
"When you ejaculate, are you sure it's going inside of her?"
"No, it just doesn't seem to stay in. It goes everywhere."
"...What do you mean?"
"Uh, well, it ends up all over her tummy"
Turns out he'd been shooting his load in her belly button.
Helene796 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:15:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They shouldn't procreate. EVER!!
Fidel-cashflo17 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:55:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I'm just a pharmacy technician but we once had a patient (40 years old) return to the pharmacy after being prescribed suppositories. She was complaining about how bad the pain was when trying to use the suppositories, after much deliberation with the pharmacist we figured out that she had not removed the foil wrapper that has sharp edges.
jocraddock ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:06:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was the patient who called asking for a different medicine for his constipation because the suppositories were not helping, and it was a lot of work to get the wax out of his teeth.
Fidel-cashflo17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk which is worse ๐
Our pharmacist now makes us put "unwrap and insert" on all suppository directions
toeverycreature ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 06:37:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EMT - had to explain to a patient that the reason their heart was racing was due to drinking 6 red bulls in 10 minutes. They were a health science major about to graduate.
Degru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, I can drink 1000mg of caffeine in a sitting with no issues. I once drank 1700mg and only felt a little sick.
Not sure if I can do that now, because I've been trying to drink less coffee lately.
Then there's my little brother who found the stash of energy drink powder and thought they were just regular drink mix. Drank 3 at once and started puking.
Corey307 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:53:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might not feel it but that's an unsafe dose. High blood pressure, atrial fibrillation, not fun.
Degru ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm cutting down drastically.
Found that espresso gives me energy a lot better, with way less caffeine compared to brewed coffee. So espresso to wake up in the morning, and green tea throughout the day, and I'm doing fine.
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good times, I've done something similar to cut back. Black tea and the occasional Diet Coke.
rigsta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Tea FTW! :D
toeverycreature ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Person weighed about 50kg and was new to energy drinks
langleyanna9 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:14:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's mum works with couples sort of at the first stage of infertility treatment. She tells this story about a young couple, from quite a strict religious background who came in for treatment as they had been married for a year and had been unable to conceive. She had almost finished asking the questions, and after a few quite innocent responses to questions, asked if they had actually had sex.... And they hadn't. Bless them, no one had ever explained it to them! So she had to give them a quick sex Ed class and send them on their way
adalida ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:45:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Legitimately, I wonder if one of them was gay. I feel like natural instincts would entice you into sex with your spouse (who you presumably liked and slept next to every night for a year) if you were straight.
MrFuzzynutz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:00:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Religion is so poisonous.
serleth ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 09:02:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Overheard in a clinic, new patient comes in.
Nurse: "Just fill this form out with your medical history, including what vaccination shots you've had, etc."
Patient: "I've never been shot."
Nurse: "Well... that's good."
Patient: "Guns are scary."
Nurse: Visibly wondering how this patient adults
AmadeusExLibris ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 12:26:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Family medicine RN here.
I had a mom call our triage line because her 1 year old daughter had been diagnosed with an ear infection and she was concerned that the doctor prescribed an "overdose" of antibiotic.
I pulled up the record and her daughter had indeed been seen in the office the day before, diagnosed with an ear infection, and given a prescription for amoxicillin suspension (the kind that's bright pink and tastes like bubblegum), 2 teaspoons twice a day.
I explained that this looked like a perfectly reasonable dose for an ear infection.
She said "but 2 teaspoons doesn't even fit in her ear!!!"
I had to ask to put her on hold for a minute so I could figure out whether I wanted to laugh or cry.
CatsInSpaceSwag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my... poor kid lol.
AmadeusExLibris ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:12:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah....I never found out what happened after the fact, but I can only imagine she got an outer ear infection to match the inner one after having all that sugary medication poured into it....
Tantes ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:12:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient comes in. Chief complaint: tongue irritation after consumption of spicy foods.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:35:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had a possible melena just to find out he'd been eating beets he got out of his garden for a week.
bunnygirl186 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:03:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse here. I had a patient once argue with me that Tylenol 650mg was a stronger pain killer then oxycodone 5mg because duh 650 is a bigger number.
Jurnis_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's like saying 5 mice are stronger than a elephant because there's more >_<
CursesandMutterings ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:55:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should've made him a deal and prescribed 650mg oxycodone. ;)
DangitImtired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:24 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well... probably wouldn't have to deal with that patient ever again, if they somehow filled the prescription.
Guess the overdose would be pretty fast??
yesdudehuh ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:10:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Internal medicine resident here. I definitely have a few that come to mind. One was a patient with congestive heart failure. We were fluid restricting him (less than 1.5L total fluid per 24 hours) and he was also on fairly high dose IV diuretics. Other investigations were pretty unremarkable. Despite treatment he was still pretty fluid overloaded. We double checked his intake and he didn't seem to be taking in more than what we wanted. Then I went to see him one afternoon and he had a half empty 2L bottle of Pepsi on his table. Turns out he drinks one of those daily but didn't count it as fluid because it wasn't water. Somehow he had flown under the radar with this Pepsi habit on the ward...
Also saw a lady once with abdominal pain. She previously had her gallbladder removed decades before. When I was talking to her she asked if it could be her gallbladder. I was confused because I knew she had it out - she had the scar and clips on her x ray. She said, "Well that was thirty years ago, couldn't it have grown back by now?" No, gallbladders are not like starfish... once it's gone, it's gone.
homeworld88 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:56:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, but my attending. We were out for coffee and he told me how, when he was a resident, he saw a patient with oropharyngeal petechiae in the ER. He called his attending and described what he saw, and his attending said something like "no worries, that's just BJT".
Apparently none of the doctors at the time knew BJT stood for blow job trauma. I guess explaining that to a bunch of ER residents must've been interesting.
muchasgaseous ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:10:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Learned about that one after reporting the physical exam findings of my adolescent patient to my attending. He had a good laugh, but was nice about it.
certain_people ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Orowhatnow?
Raineythereader ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:31:28 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Small spots caused by broken blood vessels in the mouth and throat. Be gentle, fellas!
jcsunag ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:18:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today: admitted an alcoholic woman. She wanted to quit drinking, so she had been inducing vomiting to get the alcohol out of her system. (Not uncommon) She induced vomiting by quickly chugging cheap whiskey - because she knew that would make her puke. She did this for 24 hours before coming in. (Not common)
Diatzen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So to quit she drank more?
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 11:57:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Liners2001 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:21:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking roasted.
Erisianistic ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:03:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in a pain clinic. In an attempt to combat prescription drug abuse the doctor would sometimes prescribe medicated cream to rub on the sore spots.
I would listen to the nurses go through how to apply this cream... and its literally, just rub the cream on the sore spots.... and the patient would nod and take it home.
About one in ten would demand an early follow up visit because "the cream tastes bad"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Erisianistic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:38:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries! In the USA, a lot of the heavy duty medications (codine, morphine, hydromorphone, etc) are pretty heavily controlled, since they are addictive, and have a street value. And can be fatal when abused. That kind of thing.
So patients who have longterm and or chronic pain that doesn't seem to be helped by normal, less addictive medications, often get sent to the specialists, who know a lot about pain and the heavy duty meds. If a patient needs the controlled substances, they often can't get long term prescriptions from their regular doctor (I think; this isn;t me quoting law or anything)
So you have people in genuine pain, people questionably in pain, people addicted to pain meds who may or may not be hurting, and outright junkies and scammers and terrible human beings. This is where all the jokes from 'pee in the cup' come from; as its a quick way to semi-accurately test what drugs are in a patient's system.
lostinedental ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know how there are doctors that specify in cardiac issues while others are OBYGYNs? Well, there are doctors that specify in pain management. So pain clinics would be where people with chronic pain issues go to find some relief.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pain Management is why you go to see pain clinicians.
Onetruesteve ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 03:32:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's an American thing, basically if you want prescription strength opaites you go in and say doctor my back is hurting wink wink. Then you get hooked up with drugs that you can do or sell for profit. Go American healthcare
hughville ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:24:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
as a doctor that came waaaay too late to the thread, I'm having a fun time reading all of these.
some have happened to me or colleagues before, and some just plain baffle me.
fun times.
It's like service industry where the industry standard is that people are wrong and you have to point it out to them.
DrMaster2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:53:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As in " the patient claims".
SamSlams ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:37 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Except you get to tell them they are wrong and you won't risk getting fired.
Brassens71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:37 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, just like the service industry then...
aksume ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:10:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im not a doctor, but a patient couldn't understand why he had to have his blood drawn in the emergency room when he was having chest pain and why I couldn't just use the blood we had drawn there 3 months prior.. even after explaining, I still don't think he understood that his old blood, that had been away from his body for a quarter of a year, would not tell us what was wrong with him.
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:11:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A female told me that she was high risk for prostate cancer because her father had it.
allthingsirrelevant ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:40:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Far too many people think CPR is like the movies. Too often I have conversations with sick, elderly people who really aren't doing well. People come in with cancer that's spread through their body, without an ability to treat it, and when we ask them if they would want CPR, they say yes, do everything. It's hard for them to conceptualise that after your heart stops, it's a big insult to the system that's hard enough to recover from. Having your ribs cracked, the pain, and then needing to be put on a ventilator, make it even worse. Rarely do people survive, let alone return to a similar level of function. Even after explaining it, they still want everything done. I'm shocked people would want to suffer like that.
Corey307 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:38:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. So many people think CPR can save a patient who has suffered cardiac arrest from trauma or simply died of old age. There is zero point in beating on a corpse, if their heart stopped from a massive car wreck, gun shot etc it's trauma to the heart and there's nothing to be done. Same for the elderly, even if we get you back you're at best a vegatable or dead tomorrow.
syscallgrl ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:56:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, it's not surprising anymore, but was very surprising at the time. Patient: I cannot go home with this drain Me: You just have to empty it twice a day and clip it to your clothes like you have been for the past 4 days Patient: No, I am staying here until the drain comes out Me: We cannot keep you in the hospital just so a nurse can empty the drain for you Patient: I'm not leaving. I'm not medical. I can't be expected to do this. Me: Insurance will not cover your stay just for the drain Patient: I don't care, I have Medicaid, so I don't pay for anything anyway
Unbelievable.
UndeadKitten ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:32:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Medicaid as a kid (disability) and would never think to want to stay in the hospital over a drain. Hell, I learned to work a nebulizer because my doctor said I could go home if I could show I knew how to do my own breathing treatments.
Only thing that ever made me WANT to stay in the hospital was a case of pneumonia and my doctor went pale when I told him I'd like to stay instead of going home. Apparently that was a bad sign?
syscallgrl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:47:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha. nice. Definitely not all Medicaid patients are like this, just this particular one.
weezethejuu-ice ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 10:19:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly this one hits pretty close to home. When i was in the fourth grade or so i complained to my (single) dad that my breasts hurt. I was like nine so they were just getting started. My father freaks out rushes me to our family physician insisting something is terribly wrong. Nope just 'developing into a woman'. Poor dad he tries.
Princess-Rufflebutt ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:03:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Aw maan. XD At least he clearly cares about you even if he knows jack shit about how your body works.
the0_o ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 03:50:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So once again, am not a doc (kinda) but here is another tale.
I was a active duty corpsman stationed with the Marines on the lovely island of Okinawa. Now for some reason the military wanted a male to female ratio of 10000:0.1 on this tiny island, hours away from anything with locals that hated the idea of us deflowering their kin, leaving a lot of guys to ease the stress of blue balls all over the backs of a hooker or the local barracks broad. Now some female marines took this as a blessing, scoring dudes league's above them, with some ending in nasty marriages and worst divorces. Some sold themselves on the side making a ton of cash but most were just like one of the dudes, looking for a nsa good time.
One of the units we worked with had the only females enlisted members on base (3 out of 1700 military members). That unit had a dedicated corpsman who was rotated every 6 months. During a rather deployment heavy season, said unit corpsman was due to leave the island and we were short on replacements. So HQ made us take his patients "temporarily". This lead to a rather enjoyable shitstorm.
I was going through the patients records, in a effort to see what injuries or illness was common among them when i noticed a strange pattern. About every 6-10 weeks or so someone had symptoms of gonorrhea. These patients would report in, get shots/meds then be fine for a few weeks then return. This pattern was present in about a dozen male marines. Using a hookup, I get a health and comfort inspection on the books (think of a floor to ceilings, open locker, tearing through your shit inspection) to try to get some more clues. During the inspection, two of the female marines hinted that maybe we should check Sarah's room. Sarah was a short and very busty woman who was 1/3 of the base females and the only one with her own room which happen to be on a separate floor from the males near an exit in a near empty barracks (females on the third floor with males taking up most of the first and a few rooms on the second).
Sarah's room was impeccable, nothing was out of place. Her uniforms were ironed and hung up in protective plastic liners, her workbooks neatly lined up on the bookshelf and the 90 plus condoms, several dildos, strapons and lube was arranged by size, color and frequency of use. When questioned she stated that she just enjoyed having sex. I marked her name down and headed back to the clinic and waited.
2 days later a marine came in complaining of the usually shit (painful urination, foul smell, blah) so i start digging. Turns out he turned 21 and had a barracks party that lead to him scoring with Sarah. Cool, treated and released. 2 weeks later, i had another, then another, then another. All with the same story. Sarah, fucking, huge tits, some kinks but all swore that they used a condom. After marine number 9 and some pressure, I got sarah in my office.
Me: ok am going to be blunt, when was the last time you got tested for an std?
Sarah : never
Me: how sexual active are you?
Sarah : very.
Me: numbers please.
Sarah : 12 times a week with various partners.
Me: ok I need names, you may be the source of the gonorrhea outbreak.
Sarah: I cant be, you treated them.
Me: yeah.... but i didn't treat you.
Sarah : but they are supposed to past the medication on to me when we have sex.
Me: what?
Sarah : (Smugly) thats what happens.
Me: (playing along) how does this happen when they are wearing condoms?
Sarah : after they cum, i take off the condom, pour the jizz on my breasts and stick their dicks back in me. I get my kink and the treatment without the risk of pregnancy.
Me: dear god.....
This is how i ended up giving a very detailed "birds and the bees" talk to about 40 adults with a workshop on stds and proper condom use.
Good times.
muchasgaseous ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:13:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corpsmen (and medics in the other branches) are amazing. Thank you.
rigsta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:42:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's wrong on so many levels :|
furriosa ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:00:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but had a friend who got had three unplanned pregnancies in quick succession. I asked her if she was using birth control and she replied "yes, but not religiously". She thought that as long as she took her pill on time on days when she was having sex that she would be fine.
Homeschooling for the win.
Lt_Duckweed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell you how frustrating it is that the 1% of stupid homeschoolers ruin it for the rest of us.
furriosa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously there was more than just homeschooling at play. We also went to a very sexually repressive (and ironically sexually obsessed) fundamentalist church. My friend was homeschooled because her mom and step dad were very creationist heavy and wanted to make sure that they were raised with full spiritual teachings.
Lt_Duckweed ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:09:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The Church I went to was interesting. Very conservative, young earth, hardline anti abortion, anti gay marriage, etc. But super welcoming to everyone. Actually put into practice the whole hate the sin love the sinner thing. Rather than hate young women dealing with unplanned pregnancies and considering terminating several of the ladies (some of whom had had abortions when they were younger) ran a charity to help educate mothers and help them take care of the baby if they decided to keep it, and help them put the baby up for adoption if they didn't want to, or couldn't, take care of the baby. Did tons of mission work helping out in the community and elsewhere. Rather than saying stuff like, "Hey gay guy ur a phag burn in hell", they would say "Hey man want to come to church with me? We are gonna have lunch after. Oh don't what to? Ok man see you on Monday!
And on the homeschooling side of things I was raised creationist but I learned both views. I was never exposed to only one side of any issue. Where my parents stood on an issue was clear, but I was encouraged to make my own opinions. So I share a large portion of my views with my parents but I differ with them on a fair number. On the sex issue I was obv told that abstinence was the way to go but I did learn about contraceptives and safe sex.
TIAT323 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:55:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not medicine but mental health.
The amount of times parents will leave out super important information when we ask them a question. For example 'Has little Timmy had any significant life events in the last few years that might have had an effect on his mental health?' 'No'. An hour later they tell us they've been abused, bullied, lost close family members and a whole bunch of really life changing traumatic stuff recently. They didn't tell us that when we asked the question because they didn't think it was important.
Honestly the amount of times you have to explain to a grown adult why really obviously terrible/abusive behaviour on their part might be the reason their child is acutely unwell is staggering. The amount of people who are really not fit to be parents is shocking, holy shit. Parenting and healthy relationships need to be taught in schools for real.
nelf4life ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:54:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
this is why parents should be licensed. if you lose your license, you lose your kids and you pay a tax.
StabbyPants ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and then the governor of NC games the licensing board so that black people can't get licensed
AnUnoriginalThrow ยท 150 points ยท Posted at 00:53:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, however, my mother is and as I've grown up I've gotten to hear some of the best stories from her and her co-workers who are also gynecologists (doctors of women and their parts).
One of my favorites comes from one of her co-worker's patients. This is all a true story:
His patient comes in because she (the patient) is complaining of symptoms that are similar to pregnancy. The doctor was going through his pre screen "checks" if you will and asks if the woman is sexually active. The young woman stated that she was not, so obviously the doctor was perplexed and concerned at what the problem could be if she was showing signs of pregnancy; but not pregnant.
So they run a bunch of tests on the young woman and lo and behold, she's pregnant. The doctor goes back in to ask her about how this could be possible as she clearly told him that she "wasn't sexually active."
Once he asked her how this could be possible, she stated "well I'm not, I just lay there."
I've never asked what happened next because we are always laughing too hard by the time we get to this part. However, I would imagine he then had to discuss how pregnancy/safe sex/and even how sex works.
Edit: Spelling and stuffz
SomniferousSleep ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:31:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your story is great! But, the phrase is, lo and behold. This is a common enough mistake and knowing the difference will better your story-telling skills.
rigsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Case and point, intensive purposes.
justnodalong ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:45:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
lol. I imagine the silly woman saw an ad that said "sexually active will get you pregs!" so during sex she just lay there. her BF: Why r u just laying there??? She: so I won't get pregs!!! BF: oh ok doodles
AnUnoriginalThrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:55:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yeah!!
plays around on Instagram
Rit_Aine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:23 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Active and passive are actually used to describe if someone is a top or a bottom in certain parts of Europe (and possibly elsewhere, not sure)
AnUnoriginalThrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:11 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I ever had a girl say to me "let me go passive, babe," I would probably just stare at her and think "what the fuck is about to happen."
buttercat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:21:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit
ronin1066 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:33:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the professionals are pulling your leg on that one.
AnUnoriginalThrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know the guy and there is no way he is creative/funny enough to come up with this. But either way, it's given us a lot of laughs at parties and social events.
wiaams ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:59:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work with a woman who's been dieting for the two years I've known her, to no avail. During a luncheon one day, she decided to forgo the carrots in favor of crackers because "carbs."
I was speechless.
DrSnips ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:40:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Saw a 78 year old lady in endocrine clinic for weight gain. She tells me she has gained 50 lbs to the point she now weighs 170 lbs. I ask when this started. She says, "Well, I used to weigh 120 lbs when I was a teenager and I've been gaining the weight since then".
david0990 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:54:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Patient said she started an antihistamine and that she now believes she is now pregnant because of the medication. Had to explain how this isn't possible and she wouldn't believe me so we did a pregnancy test... It was negative. She called two days later to let us know she started her menstrual cycle."
Edit: "another patient couldn't understand why he had blood in his urine and painful urination. the gf then informed us that he put unsharpened pencils in his urethra to help him get hard. We had to inform him that that was the cause of his issues and send him to urology."
MrFuzzynutz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:28:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How and why do people think these things?
david0990 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:35:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Idk tbh. I'm just amazed they function in any capacity. The older I get the more stupidity I see and it only solidifies my belief that it is the intelligent minorities duty to keep the rest alive. Be it for money or a feeling of obligation we keep protecting them from themselves.
[deleted] ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 23:29:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I want to link a story I read about.
Woman didn't know that she was using her urethra for sex and still had an intact hymen after decades of marriage and sex.
NSFW has a picture https://www.researchgate.net/publication/23189838_Urethral_Coitus_in_a_Patient_with_a_Microperforate_Hymen
Minnmedstudent ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:36:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That actually makes some sense given that she had a microperforate hymen. The vaginal canal is functionally blocked from penile penetration and she knew that the D was supposed to go into a hole down there, so why not go with the only one available? That said, I would understand if she didn't like sex very much.
toadlyfe ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:51:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have never recoiled from a post so fast
taveren4 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's been an hour since I saw it, but I'm still shuddering
ChubbyTrain ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:28:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, isn't urethra just a few milimiters in size? How the hell is that possible? Can they... Stretch??
drinkthebleach ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:36:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Don't Google it.
srf312016 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:49:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My question is: did her husband have a micro penis? How could anything fit in that hole?
wighttail ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:20:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ladyparts are trying to retreat further into my body.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:14:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nooooooooooo, brain bleach omg
shakenthenubake ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:12:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god.
OH MY GOD.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Matech ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, what the fuck.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:05:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surprisingly, she isn't the only woman who has done this.
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:56:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why we need better sex education, folks.
vocabulazy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered if that story was true...
CatiCom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:33 on May 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This poor woman put up with painful sex for years. Why? Sexual dysfunction is so stigmatized. This makes me so sad for her.
evlbuxmbetty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wat
[deleted] ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 00:40:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but worked as a nurses aide and studied healthcare. I have heard people say: -vaccines intentionally cause cancer so that the pharmaceutical companies can make more money. -if you use any form of birth control including a condom, even once, it messes up a females reproductive system to the point that they can never have children. -praying at church instead of going to the hospital will cure cancer and cause new organs to grow inside people with organ failure.
We need a more scientific literate society.
UndeadKitten ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:08:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure this does not work. However, when my cousin prayed for a kidney donor for her son, a man who was in the hospital chapel with her offered to get tested. He was a match, but that wasn't the strangest part.
Turns out he had three functional kidneys. o.O
He didn't know he had an extra, but now he has two and my cousin's son has one. I guess the lesson is, pray because its possible someone else praying has an extra organ they are willing to part with for your sick child. But be prepared to let the guy be an honorary uncle to your kid for the rest of his life because the guy gave your kid an internal organ.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:26:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They still believed in modern medicine enough to go through with a transplant though.
UndeadKitten ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:33:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hell yes. They are Christians and pray a lot, but they are also big fans of modern medicine. Its why they have three live kids instead of three dead ones. (One had to have a transplant, one had a case of pneumonia that was nearly fatal and one was exposed to whooping cough but didn't get it because she was vaccinated against it. Technically no way to know if she would've ended up with it had she not been vaccinated, but she was and she didn't get it so yay for modern medicine.)
Cousin and her husband left a church when the minister went weird and anti-medicine. They can't be convinced that a loving God would put medicines in the world and not want sick people to use them.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it was a church I tried going to once. The pastor went on a whole thing how all you need is god instead of modern medicine and god would bless you if you have money you would have spent on modern medicine and gave it to the church. I was so disgusted I never went back again. It made me always nervous when someone says they'll pray on an illness now.
UndeadKitten ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that is just vile!
If there is a God, that bastard's going to hell.
rexmus1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:31:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
frantically Googling extra kidneys
jynnjynn ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:47:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish..
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:00:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a female that was raised that her main purpose in life was reproduction, that genuinely terrified the poor girl. She was also taught that women were meant to give pleasure and serve their husband. She had two kids by the time she was 16. She also had never learned about consent and when she explained the situation to me, she basically had been raped by an older family friend.
EmilyVS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:36 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SAME.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:33:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"We need a more scientific literate society." How are we going to get to this?
The depressing thing is, what the trump-fuck has demonstrated is that facts and truth for the mass population no longer exists.
Reading these posts just reinforces this.
I'm 62 - I'm selling up and moving to a small rural town in Australia - let the fuckwads do what they want.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I completely agree. All Trump has done is prove to me how fucking stupid and gullible so many people are. "He understands." Really, this fucking billionaire that bankrupt his businesses and other people gives a rats ass about middle class, blue collar white America? He laughs at anyone not rich and famous. He doesn't give a fuck if your job is being threatened by automation or if your healthcare premiums are rising.
ATStillsbeard ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 01:50:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was told this story by a community health educator in rural South Africa as a cautionary tale on clear communication. A wife comes to one of their seminars where they showed how to use protection. She comes back several months later furious, saying she used a condom properly and still got pregnant. When they asked how she had used it, she said "Just like you showed us! I put the condom on a broom handle before having sex."
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:31:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a 28 yr old morbidly obese female with knee pain secondary to osteoarthritis. I walk in to evaluate her (it's about 10 am) and she is eating a meatball hero with a liter of root beer. I counsel her about reducing her body habitus to slow the progression of the arthritis. After reviewing with her everything we discussed and the importance of eating healthy options, she endorses that the meatball hero probably wasn't a good option especially since she had eaten the exact same thing for breakfast the day before. :(
jjpdog ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 09:06:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sister in law is a nurse. Old lady asked her why there was pumpkin smeared all over her bed. SIL said, "That's not pumpkin, that's your shit." Old woman replies, "How do you know, you didn't taste it."
TheRealTehd ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 04:18:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just want to say I have never read the comments in a thread as thoroughly as I have this one. By far my favorite post Reddit.
LortChanka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:58:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've been scrolling for 3-5 hours now. Not continuously, but I've had this thread up for about that long. This shit is great.
classyowl ยท 361 points ยท Posted at 21:56:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I have to share this. A colleague of mine came to me with a complaint that she had been feeling pain and burning in her vagina and there was a smell emitting from it as well. According to her this happened often. I asked her if she had been using fragranced soap to wash it and maybe that's what's causing the irritation. That's when I discovered she had no idea about vaginal hygiene. Turns out she didn't know she had to clean her vagina. No one has ever taught her how to wash herself. She was 24 at the time.
Edit: Vulva, guys. It's vulva. But you get where I was going. She doesn't clean herself, period.
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 22:30:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a guy, so my first guess would be just wash it like any other area. How thorough maintenance would a woman have to have?
[deleted] ยท 170 points ยท Posted at 22:56:36 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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on_my_lunch_break ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:46:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also, how the fuck would you rinse it out?
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:42:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
stick the shower head in there
sacredblasphemies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:26:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Detachable shower head?
Bathtub yoga?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Douching. Terrible idea (unless medically subscribed.)
sang-freud ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:10:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To rinse a vagina you just cup your hand underneath to collect the shower water and shoot it up there, kinda like rinsing your mouth out. The topic hasn't come up often with my friends but that's how myself and at least two other ladies clean a vagina. But, no don't put soap up there!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't Put water IN there either! This is incredibly drying and can cause a lot of irritation. Just wash the outside!
on_my_lunch_break ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, yeah, that's exactly how to do it. But my point is that if you put soap inside your vagina, there's no way that method of rinsing it would actually get all the soap out.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:58:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There was a thread here a few days ago where some idiot chemically roasted his cock wanking with floral hand soap. I'm not sure why I'm telling you this, but there you go...
BecomeOneWithRussia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:16:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't really use soap around the vulva at all, because it's very easy for soap to get in/around the vagina even if you're being careful. I would advise against soap entirely around the vulva, water works just fine.
ChloroformScented ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:02:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think so. OP said he found out she wasn't washing it AT ALL.
creepysnowflake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They make special vagina soap. It's supposed to be like for super sensitive skin. Also, I have to tell teenaged girls that they should not douche daily...Or at all. If something seems off down there see a Dr.
WarlordTim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No worries. I learned a thing.
MissTypaTypa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:51:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only recently learned that meant women can't use any soap to clean there. I always used soap and have never had a reaction or issue. C'est la vie
past_butnotgone ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 22:41:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a female, it's just wash the vulva and clean the flaps of any secretion/mucus/smegma. That's kind of...basic instinct? How did she not clean an area of her body?
Gramage ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 23:05:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of people who think you can't clean your dick properly if you aren't circumcised. It's really not difficult.
Mechbiscuit ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 23:23:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My go to answer when they say "but it's cleaner/easier to clean" is
[deleted] ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 23:48:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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usechoosername ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:38:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nose is also a problem, kids just pick at it if you leave it on.
land8844 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:16:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just don't eat the nose in front of them.
Source: Took my 3 year-old daughter's nose and ate it in front of her. Waterworks happened.
TheGorgonaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:10:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you let them wear plastic elf-ears on Christmas?
valiantfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do they wear sunglasses?
darkforcedisco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think people think you can't, I think people just don't
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 01:08:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you explain that circimcising men is proven to limit the transmission of STDs?
Gramage ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:48:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The same way the lady mentioned above didn't know she was supposed to clean her vag. People are stupid, or at least uneducated. Parents don't want to talk to their kids about this stuff because its an awkward conversation, and it barely gets covered in school. Hell some parents won't even let their kids attend sex ed class for religious reasons.
I've always hated the cleanliness argument. It's like arguing that my hair would be cleaner if I was bald. Or, a more extreme example: You'll never get lung cancer if you remove your lungs!
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:48:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your analogies break down.
Very few people die from dirty hair. And people would die without their lungs.
Gramage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:55:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough, but my point stands. Would you cut off a piece of your body because it might get dirty if you don't clean it properly? Or would you rather just learn how to clean it? My big problem is that this decision is made before the boy is even old enough to know what's going on. I find the whole concept barbaric.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On an individual level I'd agree with you. On a public policy level I'm not so sure.
And when I consider the places I put my dick when I was younger, I'm not sure I would've been better off uncircumcised. Especially since I was in the habit of passing out afterward.
Never assume people are perfect. Always assume they're monkeys. Because we all act like monkeys sometimes.
Gramage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:12:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So it should be public policy to mutilate baby boys because they might be irresponsible with their dicks? Or don't you think education should be the first priority? I sure do.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or we could leave the decision up to the parents. I wouldn't be comfortable banning a procedure on principle, when it could save someone's life.
If I was a country where STDs were a big public health problem, I might even go so far as to encourage parents to circumcise.
Gramage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still have to disagree. Nobody else, not even my parents, should be allowed to decide which body parts I keep or don't keep unless I am at certain risk of dying and am still incapable of making my own decisions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So parents cant have a dentist remove an impacted tooth? Or a doctor an ingrown toenail? Tonsils?
Somebody_81 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Being circumcised confers health benefits to both the male and his partner by reducing his chance of penile cancer and her chance of cervical cancer.
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/penilecancer/detailedguide/penile-cancer-risk-factors
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/cervical-cancer/news/20110106/male-circumcision-cuts-womens-cervical-cancer-risk
Edit: grammar
thegingergamer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:48:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
condoms exist
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:44:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And yet AIDS does too.
It's almost like people are imperfect.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:39:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! You'd be surprised at how many women don't clean their vulvas well. In my obgyn rotation, I met a gynaecologist who keeps a decently sized handheld mirror in her cabinet so that she can show women what their uncleaned vulvas looked like. Does the trick well, apparently.
thisisnotmyname17 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:57:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dear Lord.
Rahallahan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even want to imagine what this would look like.
...and now I'm imagining it.
Valridagan ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:46:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, clearly you possess a lobe in your brain that is utterly absent from the brains of so, so many teenage males. Also humans of all sorts, but teenage males do seem to be the worst offenders, at least in this society.
punknil ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 22:59:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Axetm the shower substitute
ShineeChicken ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:02:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a pretty strong backlash about douching now that women are correctly taught that douching can be very harmful, and at the least is unnecessary - which is great because so many women still practice it due to misinformation . But I've seen in relevant discussions a lot of confusion about what the vulva is versus the vagina, and how one can be cleaned and the other shouldn't be. The adamant "you never put soap in your vagina!!" comments seem to have led to a paranoia about cleaning down there.
CeruleanTresses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:51:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes people grow up thinking it's "gross" to touch your genitals or butthole, even to clean them in the shower. When I was a kid, I believed this (because I'd been repeatedly yelled at for touching my vulva outside of the shower) and would just run water over those parts instead of cleaning properly. It didn't help that my parents had me wear a bathing suit when they taught me how to shower.
FFXIVpazudora ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't like I was taught to do this or anything, it just feels disgusting if I don't do this. Esp period time. Ughhhh I feel the disgust thinking what hers was like during that. My condolences to her sexual partners...
kellydean1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is "flaps" a medical term?
past_butnotgone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha no, the medical term would be the labia majora and labia minora. Saves a lot of syllables.
kellydean1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:40 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flaps sounds too...industrial.
sittingonahillside ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my daughter's 5, even she knows how to clean herself.
people are just fucking stupid.
sedaak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are plenty of parents that never bathe with their children and lose the opportunity to teach basic hygiene.
past_butnotgone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ah...quite sad...something so fundamental
classyowl ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 22:40:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water. Just water. Sometimes those special vagina soaps if needed, but water is fine.
classypterodactyl ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:12:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I only found out a few years ago that soap was actually bad for my lady garden, I had always avoided using it because I thought the soap would get stuck, somehow rot and start an infection, so I just washed vigorously with water. Turns out I was right to do so, but not for the right reasons.
HotSauceHigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vagina, the internal organ, is self-cleaning. The vulva, which is the external area including labia minor a and major a and clients, need to be cleaned. With soap.
BellaBlindeye ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Soap on/around my vulva has always caused infections for me. I rinse well with water, morning and night, and have never had any complaints/any gross smells/anything.
crack_a_toe_ah ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:46:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some women can't tolerate soap on their vulvas, but most women are fine with any gentle soap that isn't heavily fragranced. The notion that ALL women should never use soap on their vulvas is a recently popular idea that isn't actually backed up by any large health authority's recommendations. (Seriously. Go find a source that isn't, you know, Buzzfeed or some health magazine.) It's just a weird myth that gets haughtily thrown around on the internet by people who don't know what they're talking about.
However, no soap should ever go up a vagina.
classyowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use gentle soaps every now and then- usually after sex. I've never had a reaction from it. If anything, it just feels extra clean down there
SourNotesRockHardAbs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just water doesn't get the discharge off the hair growing from my vulva. I use my normal soap.
But I don't even put water in my vagina.
ZeeiMoss ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I use summers eve wipes. Its the only thing Ive found to not irritate me. I usually only use after sex if its very messy and while on my period if I need a little wash here and there. My bf lives with his parents still and in their shower is "lemisol." I thought, "thats absolutely absurd." One day I tried it....got an infection instantly. Yep. I honestly dont know why I used it but my knowledge has thus been confirmed. AND DOUCHING...How could women douche? I see those in the bathroom garbage bag at their house too. Bunch of idiots there.
Rant done =]
scuba_dooby_doo ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 23:18:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a colleague with the opposite problem... she kept continually getting thrush, knowing that she is a bit of a clean freak I asked if she is over washing, turns out she was throughly soaping, scrubbing and rinsing her vayjayjay every day - this is terrible for the vagina! I had to explain that it has its own ecosystem which she was upsetting leading to infection.
Bubbalooo ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:49:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Scrubbing? Jesus. That sounds painful.
DangitImtired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:45 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Agree! Guy here and I cringed reading that too.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:16:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I made this mistake as an early teen because of abuse from my parents. I still have chronic UTIs now as an adult that started after I began over washing despite having corrected my behaviour long ago.
hey-hey-hi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to have chronic UTIs. Have you tried taking D Mannose? Seriously, I take two of those stupid pills after sex and four of them if I start to feel a UTI coming on and I've been UTI free for 3+ years.
Just wanted to share in case you were still on the antibiotics train for UTIs :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
reaaaaaaaally? My doctor just gave me some for the first time about 3 weeks ago. I've not been taking it that often because I figured it would be like cranberry and hiprex and ural and everything else that didn't work.
uniptf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So basically, you recommend a form of sugar pill?
hey-hey-hi ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:43:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, it sounds insane when you put it like that. To be honest, I haven't looked into why it works, my logic pretty went:
UTIs suck. Anecdotally these work. Oh, look, there are actual studies saying this isn't pure hogwash (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23633128). Cool shit.
After trying it personally, it worked amazingly well; better than antibiotics since it didn't lead to a cycle of UTI -> Yeast Infection.
Feel free to investigate further if that makes you happy :)
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ooh, scrubbing. that sounds kinky
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You really only need to clean the exterior skin since the vagina is self-cleaning. It could have also been an infection, which may well have been caused by a lack of soap down there, ever.
classyowl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:08:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Turned out she had an infection. She was super bummed out about it and was embarrassed. I felt bad.
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
God bless the internet so future generations will have fewer of these moments
stink3rbelle ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:40:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, she doesn't have to clean her vagina. The vagina cleans itself. What she needed to clean and neglected was her vulva.
classyowl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:43:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. You're right. Vulva. But you got the point.
Nackles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:14:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gotta ask, what DO you do for a living?? Because I can't imagine any of my colleagues telling me about their weird vag issues.
classyowl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Massage therapist. She'd been frantically searching for answers all day. She eventually ran into me when she came into the office and asked me wtf was up with her vag. Together we came to a conclusion that it's probably because she didn't know she had to take care of that area :/. We had gone to school and been in business together for a while at that point so I guess she was comfortable talking about her lady problems which was fine with me.
Nackles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder why she waited so long, I can't imagine she never had a problem before. Also, assuming she was washing the rest of her body, she just thought she'd skip that part? That's what I'm having trouble understanding.
classyowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not exactly sure what her history was. Not sure if she had infections prior to this. Not sure why she thought she never needed to wash that area. I didn't ask questions. She just rambled on about her problem. I listened. Bonus story: The way she figured there must have been a problem was the day she walked out of the bathroom as her brother was walking in and he immediately turned around and screamed "what the FUCK is that smell!!" She apologized then admitted it was her vag...
Nackles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy cow, that had to be so embarrassing. I give her credit for actually trying to fix the problem (though now I wonder, why didn't a doctor say anything??)
Shadowsole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a lot of information about that says that you shouldn't wash your vagina with anything but water, this is completely true but the term vagina can also mean the vulva and such in a non medical/scientific terms. I wouldn't be surprised if she was told she shouldn't use soap or anything to clean the vagina and didn't know about the vagina/vulva distinction
PaulMcGannsShoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Teehee!
FGHIK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm really glad I'm not a woman right now
classyowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But I imagine as a guy you never really know what you're in for when meeting a new girl.
slightlyamused1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How had she not been smelling it for her entire life before that? Also, what shitty parents. Or whoever taught her to bathe.
Rockonfoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gross I didn't even think of the implications till you said "period"
WinstonThaddeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a similar problem growing up in a small southern town with Conservative Christian parents. When I was a young girl my mother told me never to wash the inside of my vagina. However I was maybe four at the time and had no idea that there was even a hole down there. I thought that by vagina cement Vulva and that I wasn't supposed to wash the entire thing at all. Cut to me having a constantly itchy downstairs area and having to take a lots of frequent baths and having constant infections because she never bothered to explain Anatomy to her child because it was icky. I don't think I found out that penetration was actually a thing and that you had a hole down there until I was maybe 12. I literally just thought that men rub their penis up and down the folds of a vulva like they were trying to start a fire with two sticks
caninuswhitus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why knowing the proper terms is important. Smelly vagina = infection. Smelly vulva = poor hygiene.
classyowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Got a little ahead of myself. Was focused on just telling the story. Both vagina and vulva had issues apparently. The chick was burning and had discharge. She's good now!
MyPersonalEversong ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:28:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some people must have acidic vaginas or something because I don't do any significant cleaning down there besides wiping in the bathroom and I've never had any issues.
dude_icus ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:39:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All vaginas are naturally acidic. While I do make sure to rinse it/scrub it a bit in the shower, I have also never had any issues with yeast infections or the like. Apparently our vaginas are just chill af.
bonnieroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you work that this came up organically?
dimsimprincess ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:40:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a story from a friend of mine who is a GP. She'd not been practising long when she had a dude of about 30 come in one day. Pleasant enough guy, absolute average Joe, but said he had an issue with defecating in public restrooms...because he couldn't always carry a tube of lube in his pockets.
Dude had, for the past 15 or so years, been lubing his asshole <i>every time he took a dump</i>, because otherwise he couldn't get it out.
My friend recommended laxatives, and a high fibre diet. All was well.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That no, soaking a tampon in vodka and inserting it up her vagina won't keep it from interacting with her PO (by mouth) anti-anxiety meds.
Well change of shift begins and Lady attempts to leave AMA (against medical advice) and as she packs up an empty fifth of vodka rolls out her purse...
It should be noted that she was too wasted to take her gown off and put her regular clothing on. She passes out on her bed and it's left to me to tidy her up so she does lay in her own blood all night.
Turns out she was on her period, and poor me, a new CNA has never changed a pad or tampon in my life. Well, my nurse laughs and leaves me to it. I then proceed to withdraw vodka infused tampons.
Not one, not two, but three tampons are crammed into her vagina.
At this point I should remind you, I had no experience with tampons, and had no reason to believe 3 wasn't normal. Well, nurse walks in and jokingly asks how things went, I tell her about the vodka infused tampons.
Turns out women are only supposed to use one. Learn something new every day working the medical field.
Tl;dr Woman learns vodka infused tampons still interact with anti-anxiety meds. I learned how to take tampons out, and that women should only use one at a time.
AstronomicalArtist18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:48 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck! How did she not get TSS?!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:53 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Through the timely intervention of somebody who doesn't drink 18 hours/ day.
I'm shocked (no pun intended) that she hadn't experienced TSS before though...
Shesgotcake ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:59:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, medical assistant. Spent a long time on the phone today with a patient who was worried her heart would stop beating and she wouldn't know it.
Frostblazer ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:41:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The number of times that I had to explain to people that antibiotics won't cure the common cold is staggering. It doesn't matter how much medicine they take, it isn't going to cure a virus.
drewmighty ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and this is why we have antibiotic resistant strains of disease....
urabasicbeet ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:14:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After doing lab work and finally doing a pelvic in the emergency room, having to explain to the patient that using a used makeup sponge as a substitute for a tampon explained all her symptoms. Too bad she didn't tell us from the start.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:30:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So... out of curiosity... what symptoms would one present with if they had put a makeup sponge in their vagina?
urabasicbeet ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:33:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She basically had a really bad case of bacterial vaginosis and probably a yeast infection somewhere in there but we just treated the BV. A lot of really smelly yellowish discharge, burning with urination, and itching. I should probably add she left it in there for 2 weeks because she forgot about it.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:58:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I could unread this
twinklepops ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:42:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Following delivery of her SECOND baby:
Me: ok let's feed the baby now she looks hungry Her: not now I'm tired Me: reviews risks of not feeding and again encourages her Her: I really need to nap first she isn't even crying Me: reiterates why babies need to be fed and offer formula Her: no I plan to breastfeed exclusively and formula will ruin that Me: so when do you intend to feed the baby Her: maybe in a few hours I'm going to eat and take a nap
So she gets to eat but her newborn doesn't. I genuinely felt bad for that baby when I discharged them. That baby did finally get formula when mom decided breastfeeding wasn't for her. On my unit I have a reputation for being the patient nice nurse and frequently get the "difficult" patients. 9 times out of 10 they're totally fine if not a little anxious and just needed someone to be on their level. But this was unreal, went the same for diapers, keeping baby warm, visitors who were sick, wanting to go outside to smoke, etc. I was so don't after those 12 hours. Everything was a battle.
h_odo_r ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 10:56:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a friend of mine...
A woman in her seventies came in for a routine cold, at the end of the appointment the conversation went like this:
Doc: Is there anything else that's been bothering you?
Patient: No... well, actually...
Doc: Go on
Patient: I've had this sort of numbness for a while
Doc: OK... Where and for how long?
Patient: All down my left side. For a year.
Turns out she'd had a decent sized stroke a year ago and hadn't thought to tell anyone.
ccharvat ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:20:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No, it is not appropriate to have intercourse with your girlfriend 15 hours after she vaginally delivered another guy's baby'
toast778 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse, but just wanted to contribute. I worked at a pediatric office and my coworker told me this story. The baby was going to be receiving at home nebulizer treatments so she was teaching the father how to use it. After she was done she asked if he had any questions, and he asked "do I still have to feed and bathe him?". My coworker was stunned.
bionicfeetgrl ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:05:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a guy with severe congestive heart failure. Already had some sort of bypass judging by the zipper scar on his chest. Swore UP AND DOWN he ate healthy.
"No salt nurse I promise". I don't eat a lick of it. I just go to Panda Express. I looked at him thinning he was joking.
Nope. The man eats at Panda Express 3 days a week. Then his brother sold him out and said he ate McDonalds that morning.
SMDH
BreezieDahlia ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:05:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A 51 year old women in my family didn't know the HPV she had contracted and has been screened for every 6 months for the last 14 years is a sexually transmitted disease or that her cheating husband was the one who gave it to her. I had to spell it out for her and I'm fairly positive she still doesn't understand (or she's just in that much denial ๐)
AbridgedKirito ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:19:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With friends like these, who needs herpes?
KvSv ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:05:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to explain to a med student that islands are not in constant motion. ( she couldn't understand how we could find islands so easily if they are floating)
DangitImtired ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:47 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a story about a Admiral interviewed by US congress and the congressman was concerned that the island would sink because the base was too heavy on that side of the island.
Admiral's response, without batting an eye went something like "We've accounted for that problem Congressman and it will not be a issue at all"
tedsmitts ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:09:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical Secretary:
Female Patient was compelled to give a urine sample for routine preg test, was provided a free bottle of nice cold water to drink. Bitched and moaned, gagged while drinking it, said she "never drinks water, it has no taste."
Urine again because I deal with a lot of urine. Male patient was compelled to give a urine sample. Sat in the waiting room for an hour drinking iced tea he had brought in, because 'he just went.' Urine sample provided was cold. I'm still not sure if he tried to dilute his urine with cold water like a moron or held some iced tea in his mouth and decided to dilute that with cold water because also a moron. It wasn't even a drug test, it was for a licensing thing where we only check glucose and protein levels to rule out diabetes and kidney issues. GUESS WHO JUST FAILED.
sharkshaft ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:27:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a 'story' but my wife is a pediatric NP and some of the conversations people have with her about food are mind blowing. People will consider a donut with strawberry filling s source of fruit and similar.
CatsAreDivine ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:48:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. My granddad needed a quadruple bypass surgery. When the doctor asked him what he ate he said "whopper jr's". The doctor scolds him, tells him he needs to eat vegetables, etc. My granddad gets all pissed off and says to him "Whopper Jr's got vegetables on them! It's like eating a salad!"
Our entire family cringed hardcore.
abirdonthewing ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:04:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doing home care, I was going over surgical history with an elderly patient who had her daughter present. The patient told me she had a hysterectomy, paused, and then, I kid you not, she asked, "Do I still have a vagina?" Her daughter was MORTIFIED and it took everything in my power to stifle hysterical laughter though I ended up snorting. I tried to give her a simple yet awkward, "Um, yes." And changed the subject as fast as possible.
SuperGurlToTheRescue ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:41:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but a preschool teacher but I think my story fits.
Kiddo walks into class and sees a couple of kids playing with peppa pig. Kiddo starts screaming NO PEPPA PIG NO PEPPA PIG and I, baffled, look at mom for an explanation. She tells me that her husband read an article that said peppa pig causes autism so they don't let him watch the show.
Did I mention mom is a friggen pediatrician?????
Alianth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair maybe she just really didn't want him to watch Peppa Pig. If I could just turn back time....
SuperGurlToTheRescue ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that too but then I googled peppa pig and autism and there is a satirical article blaming peppa pig for autism. Many people took it as real and ran with it. She's one of them I'm afraid.
Squigglystuff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:06:29 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband HATES Elmo, I'm Shopping with my 2 yr old and a lady in the shop shows him a "tickle me Elmo" toy and asks him "wouldn't you love to have that to take home?" Mr 2 replies, "no, daddy wants to set Elmo on fire!"
That Mum probably had the same plan!
Squigglystuff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:21 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He also had them terrified of Barney the dinosaur for a while.
Maslover51 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:15:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, not even close, but I've had a conversation like that. A few months ago I asked my 22 year old friend why he and his girlfriend hadn't had sex yet. They'd been together for a while and didn't seem to have any moral or religious reasons not to and they seemed to want to. He said she was on birth control and asked me if they had sex now and she went off her birth control some time in the distant future could she still get pregnant. I didn't understand the question at first. Turns out he didn't understand that sperm dies after a few days. He was afraid that some day years in the future after they lost touch she may still have his baby. I ended up having the whole sex talk with him. I wasn't sure where his gaps may be so I just covered everything I know. I never realized until then how lucky I am to have had such open and honest parents.
Dank-Sinatra ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:22:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know you can still get pregnant from precum? I thought that was just like the first squirt to drip out all the ketchup water before the real ketchup comes out.
scubahana ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:35:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The prevailing research in the past few years has been that actually no, not really. The vast majority of men only have dead sperm in their precum, if any at all (yes there are exceptions, but these guys have been ruled as exceptions and not the norm). The functional exception to this is if you've already ejaculated once very recently (same day kind of thing); then it should be treated with more caution.
Maslover51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I knew that. But it scares me how many people don't. My mother warned me about that.
drtmb ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:15:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That ordering greasy pizza to be delivered to your ER bed might not be a good idea when you're getting your severe abdominal pain checked out.
sqratch84 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:11:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'MURICA!
MrFuzzynutz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:57:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it sad that I have no problem believing this?
jcgrenadamanc ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:16:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a guy come into the emergency dept, stank to high heaven, that gangrene foot smell we all become so accustomed to. I asked "whats the problem?" - "well doc its my foot, its been bothering me for a while" The odor from this guys foot could strip paint from walls, i have no idea how he has ignored it, he goes on to explain hes been "dealing" with it, read ignoring, for a few months, to the point that his trainers squelch with PUS when he steps.
"So...why did you finally come in today?" - "well doc i woke up and realized i only had 9 toes" "Well.....where did you leave it last time you used it"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Little language distinctions are always funny. I assumed that by "trainers" you meant persons not footwear. As in his personal trainer.
[deleted] ยท 323 points ยท Posted at 23:39:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TheAlfies ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, that's pretty freakin' funny.
MrEmouse ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 02:17:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank God you told me... I wasn't sure if I should laugh at that.
fiqar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:15:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it
starfond ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:23:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The joke is that the boyfriend's earrings are made of cheap material that gives off residue when he goes down on her, thus causing the discolouration.
myne ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:18:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copper makes the colour. The only possible confusion with gold is if it's in brass.
fezmonkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:20:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nickel silver also commonly causes green discoloration. Very cheap metal that crappy jewelry gets made out of.
EDIT: Learned it's a copper alloy, so you're very much correct.
rep_movsd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So people don't clean up after sex, or bathe once in a while?
Gross!
Lt_Duckweed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:06:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some metal alloys can stain the skin.
rep_movsd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In such a short time? like an indelible tattoo?
Lt_Duckweed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:07:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I few minutes of contact could easily last for several days.
kellydean1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd have never expected a Redd Foxx reference here!
Metalbass5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit I would have lost all composure once I put it together. That's just hilarious.
HappaVet ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:47:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Veterinarian, but still had to explain crazy things to people. Having to explain what basic organs do in the body to adults has stopped surprising me. Thus isn't necessarily due to bad education, as I've practiced in some upper middle class suburbs with great education systems. The kidney failure conversation gets a lot longer when you have to explain what a kidney does.
Also, those aren't ticks; male dogs have nipple too. And yes, your male dog can still get an erection after being neutered. No, it is not the testicle "growing back".
Wxxz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:24:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not doctor, but medical professional. I'll try to make this short because I don't like making stories too long so.. person get's gonorrhea, they are embarrassed and don't seek medical advice for 2+ months after signs / symptoms.. look at their schlong, it looks like the stuff you see in /wtf ... so PA prescribes him creams to apply / how to apply / etc. The directions for the cream is apply I believe like once every 3-5 days (2x week). The kid ends up applying it like every day for 2 weeks thinking it will clear up the gonorrhea / skin condition faster and ends up melting his dick off. So now you have a gonorrhea infested genitals as well as extreme acid burns. The PA ends up giving his new weaker cream to the soldiers platoon medic (U.S ARMY) and makes sure the medic gives the soldier the cream at appropriate times since he clearly is incompetent... kid ends up getting kicked out like month later when his obese gonorrhea GF is sleeping with other people in the barracks and panics saying he raped her and all kinds of razz
matazz. Anyhoo if you have any questions, ask, I'll try to respond...TLDR: Gonorrhea, acid cream... person applies acid cream daily instead of 1-2 times a week, melts dick off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Wxxz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, the girlfriend was a civilian.
CatsAreDivine ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:59:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is a nurse. When she worked in a nursing home she had to explain to the medical assistants (who were black) that black and white people were not anatomically different on the inside. To be fair, they were from Baltimore City and the education system there would be considered a joke if it weren't so sad.
I'm not sure exactly what differences they thought were there but she had to show them her nursing books to convince them. (This was pre-internet.)
ZeebeesPOP ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:25:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had friends when i was younger tell me black folks had extra muscles in their legs... i would respond with, so your saying they are mutants? Idiots.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:10:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ZeebeesPOP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It used to really piss me off... then my Dad told me something that he said i needed to remember for the restcof my life. People are dumb.
Raineythereader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:31 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone ever tried the "Asian girls have extra muscles in the vag" argument on you?
ZeebeesPOP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:38 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. No. But im gonna use that one for jokes...
Raineythereader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even try to straighten that guy out. Just shook my head and let it go.
goonnabry ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:58:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Working as a urologist there are many stories, but one in particular stands out. An 18-year-old patient with sickle cell presented to the ED with a priapism, something not uncommon in men with this condition. I was consulted to reduce the priapism, which involves placing a small-gauge needle in the patient's penis and withdrawing stagnate blood. After repeated attempts spaced out over several hours, I returned to find the patient laying in his stretcher spooning his girlfriend. No wonder his priapism kept returning. I proceeded to explain to this young man that yes, laying next to your girlfriend while she rubs up on you will indeed cause your priapism to recur. Instead of taking down his priapism once more I thought of a better idea and suggested for the first time in my professional career that a patient have sex in the ED.
Metalbass5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:43:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...Can...Can you do that?
Can I have a sex prescription?
Brassens71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:00 on January 19, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like something Zapp Branigan would say...
Alicewouldnever ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:42:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother was a nurse many years ago. A woman came in to the er with a glass coke bottle stuck in her vagina. She had been masturbating with the bottle and science happened; a vacuum, suction, whatever you call it.
The attending doctor recommended that the patient buy a sex toy instead of using random household objects. Her reply, "I'd be too embarassed to buy one of them."
beardlessclamlover ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lolz.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:15:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no doctor, but as a manager of a restaurant I have to convince otherwise normal and intelligent cooks about burn procedure. Mayonnaise, mustard, cooking oil, butter, milk and raw eggs have all been slathered on the affected area much to my chagrin. And the comment I always use while waiting for them to wash that crap off so I can spray on burn salve (which I show how to use in training) is, do doctors normally store and prescribe mustard? No? Let's try topical analgesic then.
brianfantastic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:59:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a cook, and the amount of assholes that tell me not to rub eggs, mustard, Mayo, cooking oil, butter and milk on my burns is absurd. I end up having to prove that if I hadn't put all of that stuff on first, their fancy 'burn salvs' wouldn't work. Dummies.
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a combo of old wives tale bullshit and people knowing nothing about first aid.
R2theUNS ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:02:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had to explain to a 22 year old woman that she was getting repeated urinary tract infections because she was wiping her vagina wrong (back to front) after urinating. She was convinced her apparatus was broken
NekkedBare ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 09:46:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An RN, not an MD, but had to explain to a family member why their loved one, who was in the middle of a suspected active stroke, couldn't eat or drink. He then proceeded to block the doorway to prevent us from leaving to get the patient down for a stat CT, and demanded we give his family member "food through the IV."
BurnoutByNight ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 11:45:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2 separate people came to me with the same question, one had a bird the other had a lizard. Both pets had recently laid eggs and the owners, all excited, asked me "so what do i do now?! Where can I get an incubator?! Is it too late to incubate and the baby will die?!" I asked them if they also have a male mate for their pet. "No..." They respond. "Has your bird/lizard been around a male in the last few months?" "No..." "well then there's no possible way these eggs have been fertilized. She's not the Virginia mary." They look dumbfounded but reply "but then why did she lay eggs???" My response was always "females go through a period of time when they release eggs. It's natural." They never got it.
Liners2001 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:24:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is she the Florida Mary?
BurnoutByNight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:58:06 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn autocorrect!
Spazmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:02:26 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have only 4 female chickens to get fresh eggs and so many people have asked how we stop them from hatching.
saraemerson ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:47:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
in terms of masking, every primary care male patient over 50 (and many under 50): doctor I have been feeling more tired lately, I think my blood pressure is too high, I have a slight cough on Tuesdays, etc...15 minutes into interview..oh yeah, I'm most concerned about Erectile Dysfunction
Firemanz ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:34:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I had to tell my wife that pee and babies don't come out of the same hole.
EinsteinNeverWoreSox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:10:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, many adults really don't know that.
ryan_503 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:45:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An QB/GYN told me about a young married couple that couldn't get pregnant. They were both from very strict Christian families. They hadn't had sex because they didn't know what it was or how to do it. So she had to explain the birds and the bees to them.
Leohond15 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:23:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is a disgustingly ridiculous amount of stories like this. Seriously, we're the only species that needs to EXPLAIN sex to its young. Other animals just...know how to do it.
ChaosWolf1982 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How... how did they think pregnancy happened? How old were they?
ryan_503 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:11:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think they were 18 or 19. I can only guess their talk about babies never went beyond being told "God will put a baby inside the mommy when she gets married" when they were little. I've heard about people that come into adulthood from very sheltered lives not knowing how women get pregnant.
beeyonca ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:38:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This explains why they're pro-life.
klisteration ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ohmygod ! That explains so much !
Larky17 ยท 765 points ยท Posted at 20:19:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I chime in as a firefighter? How about trying to explain that it is NOT a good idea to pour water on a grease fire...
BenzieBox ยท 190 points ยท Posted at 20:46:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is a firefighter and a few years ago he and his coworkers were making wellness checks on some of the local neighborhoods after a pretty big snow storm. Lots of people were using generators to run things and of course plenty of them weren't being housed properly. As in left inside houses with poor ventilation. My dad and his coworkers were yelled at by multiple people for trying to help and suggest they move the generators outside or at the very least open the garage or a freaking window! Nope. Slammed doors constantly and people just throwing the information pamphlets back at them.
SanshaXII ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 20:59:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yell through the door "You know you're only making more work for us, because who do you think has to mask up and drag your corpse out of your carbon-monoxide filled house?"
BenzieBox ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:56:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. That's what they kept trying to tell them. You are actually poisoning yourself by letting this thing run practically in your home!
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 22:50:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Should've just ended it with "Ok, so do you have any preference on body bag color or will the standard black be ok?"
I_AM_TARA ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:29:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Let's be honest. How many of them even have functional monoxide detectors.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:18:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OR... "thanks for keeping us in business"
Larky17 ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 20:54:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Candidates for natural selection.
BenzieBox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much!
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:18:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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BenzieBox ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:55:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the men of the households were the ones who got the angriest. I guess they felt like their authority or intelligence was being questioned.
Tjodleik ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:54:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not unsubstantiated. Several psychological studies, some fairly recent, have shown this to be true.
Edit: Wording.
yanroy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:57:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It all boils down to a failure to teach critical thinking to children
Betababy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's called cognitive dissonance. People don't like being told that they're wrong.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:55:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He should hand out Darwin Awards
BenzieBox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:57:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gold-plated carbon monoxide detectors maybe.
Sam-Gunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They would've needed to actually removed their ability to procreate, technically.
Possibly_a_Firetruck ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to have sympathy for people who are so profoundly stupid.
BenzieBox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:55:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how my dad did it for so long. He's not very patient in the day to day lol
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
CO sinks, so if you have a big drafty basement, and you can't go down the stairs, it may not actually be that big of a deal.
Pogo152 ยท 789 points ยท Posted at 20:27:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's an easy mistake to make if you've never experienced a grease fire before and you think "oh I'll put it out with water just like any other fire." All experience leading up to that would have been "water puts out fire".
[deleted] ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 20:35:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 419 points ยท Posted at 21:21:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're on your third grease fire, you're either an arsonist or a Sim learning to cook.
esmejones ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 23:15:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL I'm a Sim learning how to cook.
AWildEnglishman ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:00:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you often find that doors and pool ladders disappear?
DongLaiCha ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It turns out /u/esmejones is just severely schizophrenic.
esmejones ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:42:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, but I did figure out that my cheesecake recipe doesn't need quite so much butter in the crust...
PotatoMushroomSoup ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:35:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i think you should stop trying to cook or get an electric stove
actually you'll just electrocute yourself when you pee on the floor because the toilet is blocked by your cat
60FromBorder ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:43:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, thats why stoves have those little rubber feet. They'll be fine.
esmejones ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please, I'd trade out and use the litter box like any civilized homeowner.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:48:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I always make my Sims read a cookbook. It may look rather pricey, but it's sure cheaper than having to replace everything every time they set the house on fire. Also, you only need one cookbook for your whole family for the rest of eternity, so it's a one time payment that can save you thousands of dollars in fire damage as time goes on.
kymess_jr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:34:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And if you remember to sell the bookcase back before midnight, you can keep the book for free!
AnticPosition ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Deep frying on the stove is scary.
Th3MiteeyLambo ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:02:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or just cover it....
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:07:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:42:05 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, great advice!
"Grease fire? Better unzip my pants and furiously masturbate with a mothafuckin sandpaper death grip at 200pps to put it out!"
Edit: pps meant "pumps per second"
BraaainFud ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:43:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That works?
Man, the things you miss out on by having a vagina...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:49:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol no, I was just walking through the process using the previous commenter's logic.
Trust me when I say that DOES NOT work. Most of us guys will probably just get rug-burn and crocodile skin.
Peeing on the fire, however, is a whole different story....
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Um. Dude here. I'm almost afraid to ask, but what's crocodile skin?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I believe the medical term for it is icthyosis
Basically, if you spank the monkey too frequently and/or too rapidly, it causes the skin to become dry and have a somewhat scaly appearance, which - as you can guess - would be extremely painful. It's kind of like a callous, but more sensitive and without the excessive skin cell growth.
Edit: wording
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gah. Well, I asked. Thanks for the explanation!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:02 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No problem! ...and I apologize for any mental imagery that I may have induced.
Rajani_Isa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How drunk were you at the time?
Kuddkungen ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:44:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you've managed to survive throwing water on grease fires twice, you're probably immortal and don't have to worry.
Morasar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, grease works really well too
The-Juggernaut ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 21:31:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I hadn't seen a video on Reddit showing how a grease fire can fuck up badly via water I would have thought water = puts out fire like any other situation.
Why does water and grease become so catastrophic? I know they don't "mix" but what makes it so dangerous?
jayb556677 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 21:54:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The water evapourates into steam however since oil and water do not mix the oil is not mixed into the steam and it is thrown into the air with the particles of steam. This increased surface area of combustible grease then ignites.
DragonGod004 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:56:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grease (and oil) are hydrophobic, (they repel water). Grease/oil are also less dense than water, so they tend to float. Add to that the fact that grease/oil have a higher boiling point than water.
So you have a grease fire. When you add water, the temperature of the grease/oil is so high that it flash-boils the water, causing a steam explosion and sending flaming grease everywhere. Add enough water and you now have a floating fire spreading through the house.
Edit: The Slow Mo Guys did a pretty neat video on it.
jennz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:07:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not entirely related, but holy shit that fire is gorgeous in slow motion.
boywithumbrella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, they seem to have put out the fire in the pot. At the cost of a giant fireball, but hey...
LorenzoStomp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They don't mix, and the temperature of the burning grease causes the water to flash boil and expand rapidly outward as it turns to gas, which flings droplets of burning grease everywhere.
casualcollapse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Steam has 100 times the volume of water.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:10:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And that's why we have education. To not have to reinvent the wheel every time.
Raichu7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:31:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But oil floats on water? Even if you didn't see so many demonstrations of what happens by the fire department that you got bored of the fireballs before you started secondary school thats basic knowledge.
entropys_child ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oil on fire is usually hot enough the water evaporates violently as soon as they come in contact.
Larky17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:37:41 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it would be covered in common sense 101...
courtoftheair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We should teach fire safety more thoroughly in schools, really.
Basilisc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose maybe we need more PSAs then, or it needs to be taught more commonly, I was definitely told that water doesn't work for all fires for most of my life regardless of if I ever saw a grease fire or the like. Don't give people the opportunity to be unaware!
dipper0312 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother taught me at around age 7 to dump flour or baking soda on a grease fire ...And she was a negligent parent. Smh.
candydaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Was in church once when some plastic leaves caught fire from a candle. So naturally someone tried to blow it out. Which of course only made it spread further. So someone else tried pouring water over it. Just made the floor wet. Eventually someone got the fire extinguisher, but still. Blowing out a fire? I guess because candles...
sashafurgang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly if it hadn't been for that one episode of Mythbusters, it wouldn't have occurred to me until I'd tried. It seems obvious when you know though.
Also when you see unexpected fire, unless you're accustomed to it, you panic and don't analyze the situation nearly enough.
I've had a fondue incident where the flammable gel stuff spilled and caused a huge column of fire. Six highly educated and sensible adults at the table all immediately jumped up and ran for water. We all had a jug in hand before someone's brain snapped out of it and stopped us right in time.
wildeep_MacSound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its about instructions.. pour a LITTLE water and measure the effect. If the fire got BIGGER.. don't throw the bucket load on it.
I've seen deep friers for Turkey that have the words "DONT USE WATER" printed on the sides.
PositiveAlcoholTaxis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We were told multiple times in school and even shown what happens when you mix water and hot oil. But only half a lesson on sex ed.
Rockonfoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah this mistake makes so much sense that it REALLY needs to be taught this isn't what you do more or as much as "stop drop and roll"
Demon_keeper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband had forgotten to empty the grease trap on our grill and it lit one day. His first reaction was to go for the hose. I scared the shit out of him telling him (screaming at him) to turn the damn hose off and ran out with a bag of flour. I swear he's an intelligent man 90% of the time...
delaloon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd never heard this before after working six years in restaurants but my first time throwing frozen potatoes into hot oil and the subsequent ceiling high fire--my first instinct was to turn off the burner. It worked that time, but you're not wrong on your ignorance stance. Even the people you think should know probably do not know.
bakingNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a small grease fire in my toaster oven one day. My first instinct was to use water (after I unplugged it). The only reason I caught myself, and instead successfully killed it with some baking soda was because I had recently rewatched Gone in 60 Seconds and there's a scene in the movie where Nicolas Cage uses baking soda to put out a grease fire in the kitchen that GiovannI Ribisi accidentally started while cooking breakfast.
Koolaidguy541 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I've said before in this thread, "BOOM! SPLAT!"
ChocolateSporks ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:05:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah to be fair I've read this a load of times and I bet my first instinct for fire would still just be water, I wouldn't even think about what type of fire it is. Hopefully I never have to test that theory.
Springwood_Slasher ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:33:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who doesn't know that is probably gonna be referenced elsewhere in this thread for putting butter on a burn.
iprobably8it ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:03:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The meat's already cooked, what's the harm in making it tastier?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I threat burned flesh with salt, pepper, and maybe an herb compound butter.
Sam-Gunn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:17:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's attached to my arm?
iprobably8it ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why let a silly thing like that stop you.
DeLaNope ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:42:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient come in with their burn covered in like three jars of mayo.
That was fun.
hockeypup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno about that butter thing. My dad tells this story about a friend of his when he was a kid, who burned his hand badly. The lady that looked after the kids slapped some butter on it and bandaged it up, and it didn't even leave a scar!
DiabloConQueso ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:31:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, it may be a great idea.
muffintaupe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:48:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Also: flour.
In cooking class as a child, the teacher told us repeatedly to pour FLOUR over grease fires, as they will smother the flames. So the first time I actually encounter a grease fire, I pour a bunch of flour on it.
Do not do this. Flour will also catch fire. Apparently the correct answer is baking soda. (Or covering it with a metal lid, or using a fire extinguisher, but DEFINITELY NOT FLOUR.)
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:15:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was working at a home improvement store during the winter, and I got a call from a woman asking me if she could light her gas grill in her living room. I told her no, it wasn't safe to do that. Explained to her the possibility of fire or explosion, gas filling the room, her passing out /dying, etc. she starts arguing with me saying that " but it's just a fireplace with wheels isn't it?!" Told her several times she was wrong, and she shouldn't do it, and before she hung up I heard her yell. "He said don't do it!" Still can't believe an adult would be that dumb.
Larky17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As I said in another comment, prime natural selection candidates.
broiled ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:27:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you want to watch your house burn down, as you stand there with severe burns.
esmejones ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:14:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to call the fire department one time, because an electrical fire was starting in a poorly wired outlet. Like , I noticed right as it started. And all I could think was, "shit, I know throwing water on it isn't the right answer, but I have no idea what to do."
It was a shitty rental, so no handy extinguisher. Firemen gave me a few looks of frustration when I also couldn't tell them where the fuse box was, but I learned some stuff that day! Like, step 1, turn off the whole fuse box. Also, that sometimes fuse boxes are set into a wall behind a pull out plastic cover thing, which is why I'd never seen it. I was embarrassed that I didn't know where it was, but I'd never seen the tension spring wall hole covers before.
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:26 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Would it be safe to assume that if the thing that's burning is wet/liquid, don't add water? Or are there exceptions?
Larky17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flammable liquids, like gas, are better off being extinguished by foam, like what you would find in an extinguisher. However, I wonder how people would feel knowing we mix our water with Dawn Dishwashing soap, instead of some expensive BS.
Mazon_Del ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:44:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to admit, I've never forgotten that you shouldn't pour water on a grease fire....but I've forgotten what you are specifically supposed to do instead...
I assume that's when you break out the kitchen-specific extinguisher? Perhaps smother it by putting the lid on the pot?
mensch_uber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
there's also carrying it the hell outside and letting it do it's thing. it'll take a while, but it'll burn itself out.
ZacQuicksilver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad it was my dad and not a firefighter that explained this to me...
After my family made me watch that Mythbusters episode, they can rest safe knowing I will not do that ever.
MinistryOfMinistry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had basic fire safety in school at 8. They focused on grease, gasoline and electricity.
I was perplexed to learn that I'm allowed to waste a blanket if there's fire on the stove.
WorstWarriorNA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pour more grease on it right? /s
iceykitsune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
at least now you have a visual aid available.
DeLaNope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am 110% done with people putting gas on bonfires.
PrincessSnowy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I just smother all kinds of fires? Getting water feels like lot of work when I could just pwwwwsshhhh it out instead.
themannamedme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can I piss on it?
AllPurposeNerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:09 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's some wonderfully informative videos about it now.
finallyinfinite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BUT WATER PUTS OUT FIRE IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA
seriously they taught us why grease fire + water is awful in middle school.
_TeachScience_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fun story. My mom told me this story about a friend or relative... honestly I don't remember who it was about, but someone she knew. Said person had heard that if you didn't have a fire extinguisher, baking soda works to put out a grease fire. She had neither, so she poured FLOUR on the fire. Flour is so damn flammable it's not even funny.
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What can you put on a grease fire that will be helpful?
Larky17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fire Extinguisher, baking soda, or attempt to cover it with a lid. If doing that, slide it over the pan, as it cuts off the oxygen.
BraveLilToaster42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What would flour do? I know it absorbs grease but wasn't sure what impact it would have.
Larky17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive never seen flour used in this situation. I heard it works wonders, and I heard it burns really well. From me, I'd say don't use it. If it is your only choice, fuck it. Use it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It has to be the right kind of fire extinguisher or you're in trouble. A lid is by far the best idea.
moratnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The local firies have a portable kitchen thing they take around to demonstrate why this is a bad idea (at fairs and the like).
The 15' diameter fireball coming out of a small saucepan makes a solid impression.
immauser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a business law professor in college who was a bankruptcy lawyer, but taught university classes on the side. He was explaining to us the difference between negligence and gross negligence. He told us about a friend of his who owned a house with an extra garage who had a neighbor with a boat and no garage space so she stored his boat. In the spring she was trying to get rid of the weeds around the garage. She put weed killer on them and they didn't instantly die so she figured she'd pour gasoline on them. Surely that'll kill them. Poured gas all along the base of the garage, still no instant death. "Oh I know what'll kill them! I'll light them on fire!" and consequently burned down her entire garage and destroyed the boat. Due to the sheer stupidity of what she did, it was considered gross negligence and she was liable for the boat.
aviendha36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw that MythBusters!
bit_shuffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. Use the CO2 extinguisher for grease fires instead! >:)
CajunTisha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Several years ago my husband started some oil heating on the stove then got distracted, oil caught fire, he couldn't find the big box of baking soda we had on hand for something like this, so he calls 911 (fire chief lives 3 doors down so the fire truck shows up while hubby is still on the phone with 911).
Afterwards, his sister, who was a volunteer firefighter, asked why didn't he put flour on it? I was speechless. The fire chief had plenty to say about that when I told him about it lol.
iamlowsound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a fire extinguisher next to my stove, and another on each floor.
Three_Headed_Monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you Mythbusters for showing exactly what happens when you poor even a glass of water onto an oil/grease fire. Holy shit.
miss_lady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this! I wish I could upvote this more!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad I'm Australian because we have intense "How to act during a fire" classes in school.
Hippy_the_Hippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend put a handful of ice in very hot oil "to see what happens".
I, at least, got her to turn off the stove and heckled her as she cleans up the mess.
Hammer_Jackson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a firefighter, you should probably add on to that what DOES put out a grease fire..
Larky17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did in one or two other comments. No sense in doing it now.
shaneyney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a fast food place, and last year we had a small grease fire from tongs that had fallen into the fryer and melted to the bottom trap that comes out. It was pulled out and set on a table until it was decided how to deal with the melted plastic. The tongs caught fire and I had to physically stop a manager who'd been working for the company for twenty years from pouring water on it.
Chaosfay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:06 on May 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My husband has worked in kitchens for 30 years, and last summer he set our stove on fire. It was grease and he kept blowing on it. I calmly pull the box of baking soda out of the cabinet nearby and dump all over the fire. The fire vanishes and my husband is upset about the mess. Apparently every kitchen he's worked in has a grease fire least once a week, and all they do is blow it out and it's gone. Said grease fires are on the flat-top and don't go very far, and if they get big you put a lid on it. He had never in his life heard about baking soda or thought that blowing on the fire would make it go out. Darling, no, you're just SPREADING the grease around and feeding the flames. He was very angry at me for making a big mess all over the stove by dumping the entire fucking box of baking soda.
It's been a year now, and I bring it up regularly when I see him working with cooking oil. He's made a point of being more careful...and having baking soda on the counter just in case he fucks up again.
Larky17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:17 on May 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow...what a blast from the past...
HeKnee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:27 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I learned this lesson when I was about 10. Friends and i lit a snapple bottle full of gasoline on fire, but then we couldn't blow out the flame. We had a 5 gallon bucket of water nearby "just in case", so somebody picked up the snapple bottle and dropped it in the 5 gallon bucket. Gas floats, so then the whole bucket was on fire. Somebody got scared and kicked the bucket over, which lit the entire driveway on fire. Eventually we got it put out by throwing a piece of old carpet on it before any parents saw.
10/10 life experience. Kids should play with fire (literally and metaphorically) to understand how the world works.
hailthesaint ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 22:22:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the doctor, but my pediatrician was a fucking idiot. I couldn't run very far and would get winded from it. Told him I was out of shape, because this man loooooved to diagnose every single breathing problem, even allergies, as asthma. He told me I couldn't be out of shape because I wasn't fat.
I also had/have knee issues that cause problems in my day to day life. My knees would lock in place and pop out of socket frequently as a child, starting as young as 4. He told me all those problems would be fixed if I stopped sitting on my knees/crosslegged. Now days, at 19, I can't be on my feet for more than 10 minutes without being in pain. We think I don't have cartilage in my knees, which could have been easily checked for when I was a child and could afford it.
I also remember him roughly scraping a chunk of bloody wax off of my ear drum. My ears don't drain properly, so him manually scraping the insides of my ears out was a common thing. It hurt so bad my father would have to hold me down during. I have panic attacks every time anything touches my ears as a result.
He's also not allowed to do a whole bunch of shit that he was previously qualified for, like deliver babies, because his shitty practices weren't just limited to his pediatric care and several babies died!
Fuck you, Doc.
paroleviolator ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:43:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus! Why did your parents keep taking you back to him?!?!
hailthesaint ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:40:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Same old reason of "Well I took your older siblings and they're just fine!" And I was a bit of a hypochondriac as a kid, so they never believed me.
Also, the parent thing of "I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU DO". Told dad when I like 8 that I think I may not have cartilage in my knees and he just immediately "YES YOU DO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WALK IF YOU DIDN'T." He does agree with me now and has long since apologized.
paroleviolator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:43:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry. That is so shitty.
Kittyk4y ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 23:41:10 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Malpractice lawsuit anyone??
hailthesaint ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:40:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I wish. I'd be able to pay for all the issues he didn't diagnose or treat properly.
LexicanLuthor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:46:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fyi, for earwax, you can fill a syringe with warm water and fire it into the ear until the wax loosens up and falls out. At the old clinic I worked at we even had a cute little "gun" that hooked up to the faucet and fed back into the drain so we'd just shoot water in the guys ear until a giant lump of wax came out.
Hurts not at all, though one girl said a guy got a boner from her doing it to him one time :/
hailthesaint ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just the thought of that is actually vaguely making me panic. I'm super traumatized on anything having to do with going in my ears. He was NOT gentle scraping that shit out of my ears, and dad used to hold me down and put peroxide in my ears because that's what the doctor said to do. I cry everytime I have to put anything in my ears to try to make it drain. I legitimately think I may have to be either sedated or heavily drugged to be able to have my ears cleaned.
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:39 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter gets wax buildups, they make drops you just put in your ear at bedtime (3 drops of oil, that's it) and the goo comes out while you sleep.
Raineythereader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamn, I need one of those guns. (Not for boner-related reasons... well maybe partly for that.)
Ap0Th3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:14:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you tell me the country?
hailthesaint ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The good ol' U.S. of A., of course!
poorexcuses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:58:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might have a cartilage issue, but I doubt you don't have ANY cartilage. I have joints that pop out of the socket often, and it's because of the cartilage being too loose or wobbly. It also makes it break down easier. Sorry you went through all that... Hope you can get your situation figured out. Until then I recommend using a cane if your joints are very sore. It's a good way to take pressure off. Just make sure you know how to do it right.
nothanksmofo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:51:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're 19 now? My brother's 16 and the doctor who delivered him walked into the room to tell my mother his face was purple and his umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck, then turned around and left the nurses to deal with it. I believe he killed the next 2 or 3 infants he was supposed to deliver and lost his qualifications. Maybe you had the same doctor?
NoDoThis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, you should look into getting your knees checked (obvi), but if you're concerned about ability to pay, ask (beforehand) if your doc has any financial assistance programs available. Or if you're really hard up for money, consider applying for Medicaid. If you want more info, just message me, I work in the field (the money side) and would be happy to help! :)
redrivest101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:33:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend has no cartilage in her knees either. She found out when she broke her knee last year. Now she's just waiting for the other knee to break so she can get surgery to potentially fix the problem.
hailthesaint ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:39:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
NO DON'T TELL ME THESE THINGS
THAT'S TERRIFYING AND MY CONDOLENCES TO HER
fiqar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:20:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were your knee issues ever diagnosed? I think I might have the same problem
hailthesaint ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have not, sadly. Broke kid with no insurance.
Mine click and grind when I move them, which is why I don't think I have cartilage in them.
hockeypup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're really broke, you should've signed up for ObamaCare. I'm also broke, and I currently have free health insurance with no copays or deductibles. I was able to use it to finally see someone about my chronic congestion and had my nose surgically fixed.
myne ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bone on bone hurts like hell. It's excruciating by all accounts.
Damn near everyone's knees click and grind.
Ever had an xray? They're not that expensive.
beeyonca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck up, doc?
davidson606 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:11:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is anecdotal, but in my training I worked with a infertility specialist that told me she once had to explain to an adult couple in their 30s that they had to stop using condoms to get pregnant. They thought it only protected against STDs. As it turns out the female thought she was positive for herpes because she got tested for STDs in the past and was positive for HSV 1, the common "oral herpes" or fever blisters. After 2 years of being unable to conceive they sought a specialist
riptaway ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:02:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's... Do you mean an anecdote?
poorexcuses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:14:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anecdotes are anecdotal evidence.
riptaway ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But what a weird way to use it. Every personal story is anecdotal, and his story is in a 15k comment thread about stories. It's like walking into Toys R Us, seeking out an associate, and asking where the toys are. It's ALL toys, just shop dude.
What he said isn't anecdotal because it's not evidence of anything, even taking the story at face value. It's just something that happened. He's not making a broader point or trying to prove or disprove anything
BubbaTarantino ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A buddy of mine's sister is a OBGYN and she had a patient who was surprised to find out she was actually pregnant and commented, "Are you sure I'm pregnant? I let guys cum in me all the time and nothings happened..."
Armigedon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:40:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife is a provider and had to have a repetitious conversation with an elderly woman that she did not have a prostate no matter how closely her symptoms matched the commercial for prostate checkups.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my gosh!!! Wowww. No way!!! ๐๐๐
Nguyengineer ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:09:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lady came in to the ED for dental pain. Reviewing her chart, she was seen by another provider a few days ago for the same thing. So I get in the room, and she said that on her last visit she was told her tooth was infected, was prescribed Clindamycin, and to NOT follow up with her dentist, although the chart (and her previous provider that I'm familiar with) said she was counseled on proper supportive care and follow up. She said the nurse told her it wasn't necessary.
She was also informed that her wisdom teeth are impacting against her other teeth, so she will need to get them out. She proceeded to yell at me and my nurse about how she never had her wisdom teeth in the first place, so that doesn't make sense.
Had to counsel her that wisdom teeth usually come in your 20s and may have to come out depending on how they grow into your gum line.
Metalbass5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:39:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's even crazier is that they occasionally come back. My grandmother just had a 5th wisdom tooth removed, after having ALL of her teeth removed many years ago. Weird shit.
The-Real-Mario ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:37:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm only a first aid guy at public events,
Patient: (late teens) the bottom of my stomach has been hurting worst and worst for the last 3 days
Me: (starts to decode what she just sais)
Female colleague: when was the last time you changed your tampon?
Patient : hem, like a month ago?!?!
OhMyTruth ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:40:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my (adult) cousin that right after she has the baby, there is a cord attached to the baby's belly button coming out of her lady parts that needs to be cut. She didn't believe me.
RazorMinch ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:07:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad was a paramedic and he told me a story that he got a call from a girl who was probably about 19-20. She was scared because she was randomly bleeding and didn't know why, turns out she was having her first period super late and her parents kept her super sheltered. My dad had to give her the whole sex Ed talk, she didn't even know what sex was!
MrFuzzynutz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:16:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor girl
Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky she hadn't already gotten knocked up :/
swiftsnake ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:08:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That you're not supposed to shake a baby.
badfan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:03:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Daddy's lil' etch-a-sketch
ilovemrhandsome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/OhWVH5dmu-w
IntrospectorGadget ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:38:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a patient come in with pink eye that had "tried everything" to get rid of it...
...including putting her own breast milk in her eyes. Did this for multiple days before seeking actual treatment.
Fuego_pants ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:26:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is much more common than you think. Many moms I know use breast milk as treatment for pink.eye.
adevilnguyen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:27:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and for healing baby acne, cradle cap, and healing tattoos.
Fuego_pants ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:52:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I forgot those. I have heard it being used for a huge variety of ailments.
IntrospectorGadget ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The idea behind it is that there are a lot of good things (like antibodies) in breastmilk. I get it, but the bottom line for me is that medical therapies (like antibiotics, steroids, and antivirals) are faster and more effective at treating the underlying disease state. Less time spent with a sick eye means less chance for more serious complications to arise.
Fuego_pants ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:25:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Totally with you, there. I'm all for breastfeeding. I don't want breast milk in my eye.
IntrospectorGadget ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't realize it was so common though - had several docs 10+ years into practice with me that had never heard that one before!
UndeadKitten ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:10:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep hearing about people putting breast milk into irritated and infected eyes. Its even a medieval cure for strained eyes. Its a treatment with history behind it, and I have no clue it its effective or not.
I just want to know who the first person to squeeze a boob into a sore eye was and why this occurred to them.
malonkey1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:17:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Listen, I need you to do this for, my, uh, for my eye problems! Yeah, that's the ticket, eye problems."
gingiva_ninja ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dentist here (not a real doctor). I had a patient ask if they could rinse with Clorox in order to "bleach" their teeth.
BeeGravy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:45:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Part of me hopes you said yes- and that swallowing it kills sick Germs too.
LDawg618 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhhh haha that's funny! Also terrifying.
belleoftheyuleball ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:34 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Glad they asked before going through!! Half a star for that one!
Bacon_Block ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:46:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is a nurse practitioner, and she worked as a diabetes educator for years. She has tons of stories, one of my favourites is about a patient who complained that her insulin was not working and doing nothing to control her blood sugar levels.
My mom asked her to demonstrate how she takes her insulin. So she drew some into a syringe and then squirted it into the garbage can. It seems that whoever originally showed her how to take insulin had discarded the full syringe into the garbage can when the demonstration was over. The patient believed that was part of the procedure.
My mom has always said, that is why she makes sure an insulin demonstration always ends with the patient getting an injection.
jc_cr ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:18:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A class of freshmen nursing students in Human Anatomy lab class. Topic of the day is the reproductive system. One girl is sitting in front of a plastic model of a vagina, with a very confused look on her face. The teacher asks her if something is wrong. The girl replies "Uh, I think this one is upside down"
mcgray0624 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:48:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
EMT here, just recently had to explain to a mother who had a baby that needed transporting to the hospital, that you can't smoke on the ambulance...and that you shouldn't smoke around your baby...she put out the cigarette, but insisted she bring it on for the ride...( I made her flick it in the snow)
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:59:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She called EMS for a sore throat... At 4am. Me, bleary eyed medical student not yet used to night shifts, could not comprehend why she called an ambulance for a sore throat in the middle of the night, so I kept digging at the history, thinking this was a call for help or something
Nope. She just didn't understand why her throat hurt when she had a cold
drcmaysv2 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:02:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a conversation, but for eye exams in general all the time where the patient has their head relaxed on a chin rest looking into the slit lamp calmly and sometimes sleepily.
"Ok, now can I have you open up really wide for me so I can get a really good look?"
Patient proceeds to position their mouth in front of the scope, and does indeed open wide
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:04:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of something a friend of mine did when she went to her first eye exam (she was about 10 years old at the time).
Eye doc: OK, [name], read the chart for me. Friend: ... Eye doc: Go ahead, read the chart. Friend: ... Friend's Mom: Read it out loud, [name]! Friend: Ohh!!!
Flylite ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:39:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My urologist explained to me about a front line defense pill I had to take for kidney stones called potassium citrate. It's this brittle chemical encased in a swallowable shell. Quite a large and noticeable pill. The shell also has serious indigestible qualities about it.
He once told me that I would not believe how many people tried to save money on prescriptions by retrieving the pill from their stool and washing it to reuse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No fucking way!! That's repulsive and those people are complete idiots!!
MT_Straycat ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:10:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the ER a few years ago and the other patient in the room with me was a 19-year-old-girl who had chugged four energy drinks and taken diet pills. Neither she nor her mother could understand why she had the shakes and a pounding heart. The doc explained and they were absolutely indignant that there was no warning on the energy drink bottles saying NOT to chug a bunch at once and take diet pills, so how were they supposed to know?!
The doc looked very tired when he came over to check on me.
BTW, every time I walked past her bed (was diuresing/having to pee a lot), the girl was sitting there with a blanket over her head like a very sullen, off-white ghost.
d0mr448 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:04:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, you found her. The one person who's the reason for the text on plastic coffee cups warning people contents might be hot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Again, whenever I wonder why there are seemingly obvious instructions or descriptions on items, I will be reminded with stories like this that there are people of all ages who have no common sense or lack education.
Aishas_Star ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:18:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I literally JUST had this conversation with this patient not 2 minutes ago
She came in with a bowel screening kit that issued by the Australian government.
She said to me that she doesn't want to do it because she "doesn't want to catch bowel cancer". After I explained she cant "catch" bowel cancer, especially from the kit she again told me that she doesn't want to take it cause she's worried she'll catch cancer from taking the test.
Salem13 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:36:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had an abortion patient that we also did a STI screen on. When her test came back positive for chlamydia, I had to call her to let her know to come get treatment. I spent a good ten minutes explaining that it is a SEXUALLY transmitted infection, only for her to ask "but how did I get it?" each time. No matter how simply I broke it down that she had sex with someone who had it, she just didn't get it. She was 26.
Also had a patient that came in for a retained condom who asked if she could just leave it alone so it would dissolve.
GhetBent ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:39:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend's aunt is a podiatrist. A patient of hers came in with come kind of foot fungus, I assume it wasn't athletes foot, so she had to prescribe her antibiotics. A week or so later she came back in and wasn't happy, the fungus wasn't gone. Aunt L. asked if she had taken the pills as prescribed. She took her sock off and revealed that she had been putting the medication, in PILL form, between her toes for the week yet was upset that Aunt L. had not helped her condition.
You freaking kidding me? My favorite story of hers Lol
abetterson820 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:11:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had to explain to multiple women that they do not pee from their vagina.
wheelo007 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:44:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a patient that pasta doesn't count as a vegetable and that, consequently, 400g of pasta per day wouldn't meet the recommended daily amount of vegetables.
mjrinor ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:55:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking to a friend of mine, female in her early 50's and college educated, about the possibility of her having a hysterectomy as she was having a lot of difficulties with uterine bleeding and had not been able to tolerate various birth control medications. She said something to the effect of, "well I still want to have orgasms, I'm not that old- I'm not ready to give that up!" I was so blown away that I almost couldn't figure out what in the hell she was talking about. She said she orgasmed, "inside," and therefore, did not want to have a hysterectomy. It turns out she thought her cervix was somehow involved in her ability to orgasm, and that having a hysyerectomy would mean her cervix would be removed and, therefore, she would not have the ability to achieve climax. I tried to explain that sometimes the cervix was left, and sometimes it might be removed with the uterus, but that that had really nothing to do with her ability to have an, "inside orgasm." She still seemed skeptical. I was about to start into a sex education lesson, but thought to myself- no, the internet exists, let her start researching this on her own, she may learn more that way. On my way out I told her she could ask me follow-up questions if she needed to.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:14:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but the person thought that only gay people could get HIV through anal. Even after explaining he was still of the opinion that it would never happen to him even tough he doesn't use protection because he is not gay. Bledie idiot.
Music_Lady ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:06:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a veterinarian. Had a client argue with me that dogs don't have lungs. Lost faith in humanity that day.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatttt ๐๐
joshuabeebe ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:06:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In reddit tradition, I'm not a doctor but a pharmacy technician. Had to explain to a coworker that refusing to wash his socks for literally months was causing a cloud of gag-inducing funk to form around him. He was a specialist in the Army. When confronted, he said, "well, I could smell it, but no one said anything so I figured it was just in my head." The smell was so bad people in the waiting room of the pharmacy were angrily complaining.
xixoxixa ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joe will be Joe.
We had a guy that we had to drag into the shower, literally. Platoon sergeant handed us all (new, unused) toilet brushes and we scrubbed his nasty ass.
riptaway ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:43:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, specialist is just a rank in the Army. It's one below sergeant, so you don't even have to do anything to get it besides be in for awhile and not get in trouble. It's automatic.
Specialist in the Army doesn't mean the same thing as specialist in the civilian world
Trientalis_latifolia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:47:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for that! Knew it was an army rank, but thought it meant you had specialized in something. TIL.
joshuabeebe ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 05:46:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No fucking shit you moron. He was an E-4. I was an E-3 at the time. God damn can you come across as more condescending about the commonly known rank structure of an organization I fucking belonged to?
riptaway ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:00:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First, it was more towards others reading it, but yes, it sounded like you didn't know what it meant. Mainly because you put it in there as if it were somehow relevant, surprising, or interesting.
If you'd said a Sergeant Major or Colonel didn't know the basics of personal hygiene, that would have been something. Saying he was a specialist the way you did made it seem like that was something that should preclude poor hygiene.
Even in your oddly hostile comment you're still spitting irrelevant information, lol. Oh, he was an e4 and you were an e3 at the time? Do tell me more about...oh wait, never mind, I thought you were going somewhere with that, but you just mentioned it and then dropped it without giving context or an eventual reason for telling me y'alls ranks, never mind. LOL
joshuabeebe ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 09:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's irrelevant to explain that I was in the very same organization that you were explaining the rank structure of? Hot damn you really are retarded.
AzriKel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone knows this, don't act so damn high and mighty when they were possibly explaining for the rest of us.
joshuabeebe ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 07:33:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If the question was "what was the dumbest thing a doctor has said" then he would have been perfectly fine with mentioning that specialist is a common rank. It wasn't. I said he was a specialist in the Army. It's in the same sentence. That should generally cause one to glean that they're fucking related. Don't act like a fucking moron and you won't get correct like the fucking moron you are. It's that simple.
Here's some other shocking tidbits of information. Water is wet, a shark's ass is water tight, and bears shit in the woods.
AzriKel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:13:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Specialist in the army to a civilian/layperson sounds like it means specialist the way it does in wider society i.e. someone who is trained in a specific subject. Clarifying for the broader audience reading this that it's a ranking helps. Wtf is your problem dude, there's no reason to be so upset.
joshuabeebe ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's because it's at so basic a level of comprehension that it doesn't need explaining. It's irritating as shit to have some random dickbag make such an obvious fucking statement. It's like going on a tour of New York and having the tour guide point down and say, "That's actual cement!"
riptaway ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:02:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just FYI, most people outside of the military and who don't have much contact with military personnel actually do assume specialist means something like what it means in the civilian world; a person who has specialized training and skills. Also FYI, your context and explanation did nothing to explain what a specialist is, contrary to what you're saying.
Bad times, dude. You're a hot mess. Get some sleep and come back at me
bomnjom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why did he refuse to clean his stocks?
joshuabeebe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:03:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I was trying to save money." He also only ate Ramen noodles when he wasn't at the Hospital where we worked.
bomnjom ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I shudder to think what his underwear philosophy was.
xixoxixa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Joe will be Joe.
We had a guy that we had to drag into the shower, literally. Platoon sergeant handed us all (new, unused) toilet brushes and we scrubbed his nasty ass.
DangitImtired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:37 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've read/been told about this, where people are on "Shower watch" as they won't shower unless forced. Wtf...
DrEmiFixHeart ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 21:50:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient who complained that his asthma inhaler didn't prevent or reduce the severity of his crisis. He was using the inhaler as a suppository...
๐๏ธ Graynard ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 22:03:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? No, I'm sorry, but no. Unless he had an older brother playing the prank of all pranks on him I just can't bring myself to believe this one (mainly to keep my sanity).
Tjodleik ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:13:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After working with people for close to ten years (surveys and IT tech support) I can assure you there are people out there who are that stupid.
DrEmiFixHeart ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:56:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To his defence, he had a bricanyl turbuhaler which "kinda" has the shape of a massive suppository.
jyetie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Alright, I had to look that up and if someone just handed it to me and said it was an inhaler, I probably wouldn't know how to take it because I've had always had inhalers that that looks approximately like this.
That said, "inhale" is is right there in the damn word. I don't know about him, but I sure as fuck can't inhale through my ass.
shinypretty ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trust your instincts on this one, and on 99.5% of the other shit that's getting said here.
DrEmiFixHeart ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most people wouldn't believe most of the weird/dumb stuff hospital staff get to see. Human stupidity knows no boundary.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hence an orange turd as pres of USA!
Blugentoo2therevenge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously, yeah, because when I need a deep breath I bend over and pull my butt cheeks apart. Jesus.
Omelettes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bet he shat really well, though.
Hamaal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:24 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably cleared up any constipation
thegingergamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how?when I first got an inhaler as a kid they made me practice in front of the doctor to make sure I knew what to do
Zottoman ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:23:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but what my friend did makes me glad I don't deal with medical stuff.
He had no dental care, and he had a big cavity in the back of his mouth. So he drank enough bourbon until he couldn't feel anything, and went at the cavity with a screwdriver
tsume24 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:57:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
kind of curious about how that ended lol
ORPeregrine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my second step dad. He broke a tooth but refused to go to the dentist, "I'm not afraid, I just don't like dentists!" A lot of bourbon and some needle nose pliers resulted in a worse break. Idiot had no choice but to go to the dentist and whined the whole way to and from.
malonkey1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, at that point, it would've made more sense for him to grab the pliers, no?
ScifiGirl1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Something in me just died.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See this is why I'm a fan of IUDs and implants. Sure, a little more effort up front, but dammit there's no way you're going to screw that up.
Cue the inevitable case report in next month's NEJM proving me wrong.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I'm a fan of sterilization....
cowboydoctor ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:08:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Middle of my surgery residency and I'm in the hospital on call at 2am. Another surgery service notifies me about their elderly patient is dying of cancer and the family is deciding whether or not to make him DNR (do not resuscitate).
Nurses call me to his room as he is actively spiraling and I come to the room with about 10-12 family members present, none of whom I've met before.
I proceed to be super sensitive and give them all the DNR talk and everyone gives me their full attention in silence. At the end, I ask them if anyone had any questions.
Without skipping a beat, one of them asks me "did anyone ever tell you you look exactly like Keanu Reeves?" And the whole entourage looks at me curiously without any reservation.
Note: I look nothing like Keanu Reeves. WTF.
OhSolios ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:10:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Coping mechanism. Just trying to escape being there making that decision even if only for a moment.
-theuser- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:23:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We're gonna need to see a photo.
CreatrixAnima ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The matrix has you.
Or you're an amazingly cute kitten.
Nefarious__Nebula ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory "not a doctor"....
My best friend's mother is diabetic (type 2). The last time she came to town, she was going on and on about how hard her diabetes is to control, but how coconut oil and kombucha and all this other holistic crap was pretty much magical. She kept all this stuff in her purse "in case of emergency"...like coconut oil is going to help in the event of a blood sugar spike.
The three of us went to a coffee house type place for lunch. I got some kind of wrap that was mostly lettuce and she lectured me about how unhealthy that was because lettuce causes blood clots or something (?!) For dessert she got a massive cinnamon roll that was as big as the plate and some mega-sugary coffee thing and afterwards complained that she felt like shit and her blood sugar was probably too high.
I asked her "don't you have medication or insulin or something?"
She replies, "No...I just need to have some coconut oil."
She took a plastic spoon out of a baggie and scooped some out of the jar and ate it like it was freaking peanut butter.
What the hell.
eazolan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:20:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, it sounds like it's working.
PantryBandit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, Vitamin K can reduce the effectiveness of Coumadin/warfarin (an anti-blood clot medication) and a lot of doctors will recommend not eating too many greens while on it.
letigre87 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:22:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I went to the lady parts doctor for the initial pregnancy visit. We were chatting about labour and what to expect, she's kinda a weird one anyway but looks straight at my wife and says "you know this baby is coming out of your vagina, right?" My wife and I look at each other and back at her "um, yeah?" The she went right back to being a bubbly ding bat and said "oh good, that makes this part a lot easier, you just never know about some people".
I think we walked out more confused than when we went in. Like for her to ask that question, enough people must've been unsure.
enocc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:02:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Lady parts doctor"
Funniest part of the whole story
Moof_the_dog_cow ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:42:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today I [surgical chief resident] had to spend time convincing a 60 year old man who had an aortic dissection (and would likely die if he left) that he should stay in the hospital rather than go home because he didn't like all the noise in the hallway. Personally, I'd rather have people walking buy my room during my afternoon nap and be alive to be bothered by them than have my aorta explode in my chest and die suddenly and painfully... But hey, to each their own. (And no, he wasn't a palliative/end of life patient, he just needed better blood pressure control badly)
poorexcuses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That happens to people who regularly use cocaine, too. I had a friend who just had a dissection completely randomly, though. She made it through, thankfully.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did he end up staying or did you d/c AMA?
Moof_the_dog_cow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Stayed, but with a 1:1 sitter and a lot of coaching.
__dank__meme__ ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:53:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was working in California, in a very rich area where education is amazing, I asked one of my child patients to pee into a little cup. The parent took me aside and scolded me, saying, "Why are you trying to make my son drink his own pee? Shame on you doctor dankmeme__! I thought we live in a civilized day and age, and you expect me to cope with this!?" then i told her i wasn't going to make her son drink that shit. she just spat at me.
Metalbass5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:30:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I donno about where you are, but here in Canada spitting at someone is considered assault due to the possibility of disease transmission. You spit at a doctor here in Canada and you're likely spending the duration of your appointment in handcuffs, or under the watch of an RCMP officer or orderly.
stawwp ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 01:50:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, but my dad had a mom tell him that she was so thankful that fruit snacks exist because it was the only way she could get her kids to eat fruit. Yeah.... thats not fruit.
Rising_Swell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:06:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fruit snacks, now with 5% more fruit*!
*contains 5% fruit total
killerofcheese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What really?!?!?! Now i can have fruit snacks with .00001% fruit? That's so much healthier than the regular -4.99999%
Munchkingrl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:04:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That may have been my sister "it says fruit right in the name"
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:54:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:13:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a similar scenario. ID discovered the mysterious bacteremia occurring in the patient's central line was that of an oral bacteria. Pt was chewing up the pills the RN was giving him and using spit to inject the chewed pills into his PICC line.
lenalavendar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And when you think you've seen it all, patients find a new way to shake your head.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was impressed with his persistence
majortahn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:55:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a woman why she can't give her sedated, intubated grandfather a drink of water from her water bottle.
"Not unless you want to make his pneumonia way worse."
"No, I don't think he looks thirsty..."
the_y_of_the_tiger ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:23:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is MY SIDE ONLY of an actual 3am phone call:
It was all I could do to not send a link to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2eyq9qTOQY
arthas183 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:01:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an EMT and had a patient with a blood pressure of 210/120 (that's REALLY high). I asked if they were on blood pressure medication. They informed me that the doctor had given them the blood pressure meds, but after 3 weeks their blood pressure had gone down, so they stopped taking them. This was my reaction: http://m.imgur.com/gallery/CDqD1KV
EDIT damn autocorrect
cookie5427 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:26:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear that sort of thing quite frequently. Symptoms improve because of the medication so people assume they no longer need to take it. I guess they think it's like if you take a pain killer.
makatakak ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:39:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy stuck a metal dildo up his butt and punctured his rectum while his wife was out of town, he told us not to say anything when she got to the hospital after his surgery, so we played dumb to her and let him do the talking.
Moomookittycow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:05 on June 27, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know what he ended up telling her? lol
BadBinch ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:39:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was talking to a customer about the "male and female" parts of a connector and he asked "why are they called male and female anyway" and I kind of just stared for a moment trying to decide if I should explain penis and bagina to this man, but I just decided to go with the classic "I'm not sure" answer
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like someone to explain a bagina to me too!
BadBinch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://imgur.com/gallery/uVFm2
MagicalKartWizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It involves butter, a bagel and a microwave....
Xythan ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As someone trained in palaeobiology, the amount of times I have heard this line (most recently just prior to NY) - 'Wait, you mean dinosaurs are real?'
Then I proceed to blow their mind and ask them when they last ate one and explain chicken. :p
tubesox201 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:18:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, but friend is a Nurse in the dental section (insert correct terminology here) of a children's hospital. 11-year-old boy came in to have several rotted teeth extracted. Mother's first question was when she could start breastfeeding him again... they quickly learned why he needed the teeth extracted. They had to tell her that, technically, it was about a week before he could resume breastfeeding. At 11 years old.
Aeleas ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:21:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does your friend work in the Vale?
tubesox201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:36 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know what that means, so no lol
DangitImtired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:42 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Game of Thrones" reference to a really creeeeepy character that was breast feeding her son at something like 11 as well.
superSparrow ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 00:05:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt is not a doctor, but she works at a hospital counseling diabetes patients to help them manage their disease. She has to explain to people on a daily basis that if they continue eating and drinking garbage they will find themselves in an early grave. Some of them just don't care.
pink-pink ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:55:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
between giving up junk food and death, some people choose death.
cutspaper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:37:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was misdiagnosed as having gestational diabetes with my first child. Before knowing it was a misdiagnosis, and being on Medicaid at the time, I felt so ashamed and embarrassed every time I met with a dietician. But, on the plus side, holy cow was that educational to take my blood sugar and learn how to eat! I really did not understand anything about food or the needs of my body.
BarkingLeopard ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The sad thing is that under universal health care, those people will not have to pay the costs of their poor health choices (and I say this as an obese guy, but one who has health insurance). Diabetes and heart diseases are two of the most expensive categories of government health care expenditures.
Raineythereader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure which of these countries have universal health care, but it doesn't appear to be that straightforward.
ChocPineapple ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:40:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor (yet) but when I was interning in an Oncology Department, a woman came in with breast cancer. The doctor checked it out and was appalled at how developed it was and asked how she had not seen it sooner. She said she had but she thought it would go away. He asked how long it had been there - and she goes "5 weeks". He just stares at her and says point blank "You have two choices; keep your breast and die or let us remove it ASAP and maybe not die." She went with the second option. I got to see it myself and it was pretty damn large. PEOPLE IF SOMETHING SEEMS ODD ABOUT YOUR BODY TO GO A FUCKING DOCTOR
shadfc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:10:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is 5 weeks a long time for breast cancer development?
ChocPineapple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on person from person. It all depends on YOU; which is why Stages of Cancer are not usually based on time, but rather symptoms currently. I believe this tumor was at Breast Cancer Stage IIB but I don't recall. Here's more information. http://www.nationalbreastcancer.org/growth-of-breast-cancer
MimzytheBun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This comment just made me do a nervous self exam.
ChocPineapple ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No need to be nervous; just keep an eye out on your self. This woman was obese and unhealthy in general and she may have made poor life choices (I said may for a reason). The more aware you are of your body and habits, the better off you'll be for recognizing cancer symptoms or just in general life. Exercise, study, and keep a good sleeping pattern and eating pattern. :)
killerofcheese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me too, I'm a guy. Almost forgot I couldn't get that.
MimzytheBun ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:50:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh but you can sir, it is just significantly rarer. Usually men don't notice until they feel a lump in their pectoral.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:54:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can! There's unfortunately almost no awareness of this. It's rarer, but still worth looking out for.
DrMaster2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry but I have to call BS. If you're an intern and rotating you've already graduated and you are already a doctor.
ChocPineapple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:33:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My father worked with the hospital; and I was ALLOWED* to intern much earlier than they allow some people. I haven't graduated college yet.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 00:35:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my uncle told me this story about his time at Medical school in rural Arkansas.
He was doing a rotation with an OBGYN. The patient was a young girl of about 20, pretty, but about as hillbilly as you could get. She had just found out she was pregnant, and asked where the baby would come out of when it was born. My uncle told her, "the same place it came in through."
Her response, "my mouth is gonna be hurting bad then..."
malonkey1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:16:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Man, that joke is literally older than dirt, but it's still funny.
jafbm ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:15:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER doc here.
Most of my stories have to do with religion. You've heard versions of them...when I set a broken leg or revive an unconscious patient it's "God's work" or "a miracle from God." and has nothing to do with my 12 years of formal training and 40+ years of hands-on experience :(
MR1120 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:29:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HATE that. People that give all the healing credit to God should have both arms broken. Let a doctor treat one and a priest pray for the other, and see which gets better faster.
oz_moses ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:54:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
you must really HATE that!
MR1120 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HATE that. People that give all the healing credit to God should have both arms broken. Let a doctor treat one and a priest pray for the other, and see which gets better faster.
DangitImtired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:14:49 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the very old joke about the family that was flooded out of their house and drowned.
Told by police and fire dept to leave before the flood "We will be rescued by God!"
Flood happens, on roof of the house, water rising. National guard comes by in boat, nope, won't go, "We'll be rescued by the Lord!"
Last attempt by the Coast Guard in a helicopter to get them off the last bit of roof. Still wont go. Drown in the flood.
Get to Heaven, ask the Lord:
"Lord why didn't you save us!?"
God responds: "What are you talking about? I sent police, fire dept, the national guard and the Coast guard in a helicopter, what else do you want!?"
Sorry about the idiots in your ER Doc.
40 years, sir, you're a saint to be in there that long!
jafbm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:00 on January 17, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah thank you. My wife is the saint, putting up with my long hours and late night calls. She raised our 4 kids practically solo!
oz_moses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I thought "God's work" was NFL championships and little league games?
MR1120 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I HATE that. People that give all the healing credit to God should have both arms broken. Let a doctor treat one and a priest pray for the other, and see which gets better faster.
NuclearChickadee ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 23:38:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend who works in a pharmacy told me a story about a girl buying nuvaring birth control. The pharmacist asked if the girl had any questions about the ring, she said no, and went on doing her shopping. From the pharmacy counter, she could see the girl open the box and slip the ring around her finger. The pharmacist calls her over and asks her what she's doing, the girl is confused and thought the nuvaring was to be worn like a regular ring on your finger and the anti-pregnancy effects were absorbed through the skin like a smokers patch. The pharmacist then had to explain to her how it's applied and used.
spockified ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 23:47:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How fat were her fingers?! Nuvarings are almost bracelet size.
NuclearChickadee ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:30:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently she double wrapped it over until it fit
Terimary ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:00:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was just gonna say this. Haha!
eazolan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She wasn't fat at all:
http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/6841174/762full-dude,-where's-my-car%3F-screenshot.jpg
BarkingLeopard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are a lot of stories like this on /r/TalesFromThePharmacy
malonkey1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, another "Tales" sub to follow. Thank you.
crashleyelora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The ring is bigger than a finger and almost the size of a wrist. You must be a man.
PeachyMermaid ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:57:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a couple of girls (one of them was actually a nurse) that pregnant women do not menstruate. It was such a heated argument with many of them bringing up anecdotal evidence from their mother's or sisters having had their periods "every" month when they were pregnant.
I explained that while it is sometimes common for pregnant women to experience spotting or some blood, it is not MENSTRUATION.
EDIT: Not a doctor, just an informed female. :p
Ruben85 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im a bit late to the game, but here goes the wall of text:
Im not a doctor, but I was in the hospital for a bike accident a few years ago. In the bed next to me there was an older man, maybe around 60 years old. He had ridden his lawn mower sideways on a small slope when it turned over and landed on him somehow, and the blade chewed up his arm pretty good.
When the doctor (that happened to be from india or pakistan I think) did his rounds the guy said he wanted a specific brand of codeine for the pain. The doctor explained to him that if he gets codeine, he cant give him paracetamol and morphine, which is much more effective. The old guy kept on insisting on codeine but eventually he relented and accepted morphine.
Later the same doc came to schedule his operation to reattach tendons and muscles, basically rebuild his arm. The old guy said that this date wasn't good for him, because he had bought unrefundeable tickets for a boatride in the archipelago. The doctor explains that he doesnt really have a choice and have to do it as soon as possible, but the old guy keeps going on about this boat trip and finally the doctor says:
"Well i guess its about priorities, youll have to select between a boat ride and your arm, you cant have both."
The guy mumbles something and when the doctor left he turned to me and said:
"Those damn immigrants, right?"
I didnt respond, I just turned over and kept reading my book.
GeoleVyi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
First they take our jobs, now they're taking our boat riding arms!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap!! I laughed so hard. ๐๐๐ "Those damn immigrants, right?" was just too funny. I've been reading all these stories on this thread for the past 2 days. I. Can't. Get. Enough. Who needs friends when you have Reddit ๐๐
court777 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:50:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but a nurse... I had a girl about 15/16 she asked me if dry vibrators could cause STD's I explained to her that if the vibrator had fluids on it then POSSIBLY you could... not likely tho... STD's don't live long as I asked my doctor in charge. It was interesting I asked her who's vibrator she used and she said her mothers. Lol.
DijonPepperberry ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:25:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explaining to an "infertile" couple that their manner of intercourse could not possibly result in pregnancy.
crunchthenumbers01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was anal wasn't it.
BananaNinja1010 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:44:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Once I had a patient with an abscess on her hand. And mind you, this is India, where the rural people are superstitious. I asked why did you wait for so long? She said this is actually our Goddess giving me punishment for something I had done. 'Then why come now? Won't the Goddess treat it?', i said. She said, no the Goddess gives only punishment. I shook my head and began draining it, incapable of further conversation.
gavrilushka ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:39:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a fresh graduate nurse it was frightening how often I had to tell people that I was not poisoning their child with vaccines. Gladly I switched to OR
crashleyelora ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:47:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharm student here.
Had to explain last week to a man that the difference between the name brand benedryl (in the pink box) and the generic benedryl (in the blue box) are both for unisex use. He wanted to know if he could share a box with his wife or if only men can use the blue box. "I take the blue box because I am man, right?" ๐ณ uh. No.
Literally speechless for a moment.
Stephen1985 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe this explains a post I saw before about women having to pay more for cosmetics.
Solostinhere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This struck me as odd, not because he asked (because of course someone asked that it's the point of this thread) but because I've never seen a generic box of Benadryl that wasn't pink. Likewise generic aleve is blue and generic Flonase is green. I'm so very glad I read the labels.
crashleyelora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a rite aid brand.
Tolkien5045 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gender norms ftw ๐
Grasshoppa01 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:05:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a surgical nurse; I saw one patient, multiple times, that slowly but surely lost his leg bit by bit over a 3 year span. He had uncontrolled diabetes and was a heavy smoker. We took (by took, I mean amputated) his toes, then his foot, then a BKA (below the knee amputation), then an A(bove) KA up to his mid thigh. Before every surgery I'd witness my surgeon tell him that if he didn't stop smoking (which was hindering the vascularization to his leg) we'd be seeing him soon to take more of his leg. His response was, "as long as I can ride my Harley, I don't need my legs."
Dank-Sinatra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he will be able to, just not very far.
Dank-Sinatra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, he will be able to, just not very far.
CNBOS34 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:35:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a drug rehab clinic and had to explain to a 50 yr old opiate addict why another doctor he was seeing in treatment wouldnt prescribe him opiates for his migranes
SirRHammerlock ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:53:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a doctor
But a girl I know learnt that that sperm cells are treated as a malevolent intruder and is fought off by the immune system.
At age 20 my partner and myself had too explain cold and flu medicine do not work like birth control.
Beelzebeetus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:33:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a guy come in and ask me "where can I get my blood typed?"
I told him when you donate blood usually they give you your type, otherwise your primary Doctor probably has record of it, why?
"I want to know what type of diet i should eat for my blood type."
I told him "yeah, that's not a thing" and noped out of there.
me-myself-and-me ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:45:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a blood bank and people actually come in thinking eating for a blood type is a thing.... they pull it up on their phone and stuff... ๐
mountainsprouts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:01:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom had a book on it and she tried to get me an my sister to do it. It lasted a few weeks and the worst thing I remember from it was spelt bread. I think she gave up when she realized everyone would have to have different meals.
KaraWolf ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I ended up typing myself because not only did my doc refuse the request, but the one time I managed to donate they never contacted me about any of it. And that experience I refuse to repeat unless its family standing in front of me who need MY blood right now. Gave me massive bruising where there shouldn't have been and I couldnt move that arm at all without a lot of pain for almost a week.
johns_brain59 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:58:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a 4th year student I was rotating through surgery clinic seeing post-op patients. I picked up the chart of a homosexual male who had undergone a colostomy because of severe perianal herpes.
When I looked at his colostomy site I saw several small red vesicles (blisters). The resident came in, took a quick peek and screamed F$CK!!! The guy had herpes around the colostomy. He made me go back and explain to the guy that he should not be having intercourse in the colostomy.
NoviceApproach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:53:22 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had an inmate we referred to as side pocket, when I worked in corrections.Homeless prostitute that takes colostomy sex
Music_Lady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Omg. WHY?!?! >__<
kittenmcmuffenz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:03:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be a funeral director and I got into an argument with a co-worker over sepsis. Pretty much went like this:
Co: Man, we've had three people this week die of sepsis. I think I better start double gloving...
Me: You can't catch sepsis, but you might get whatever caused the infection if you have a needle stick...
Co: No chance, three people died of the same thing, there's something going around....
Me: brings up wiki page to prove it
Co: Not everything on wiki is true you know.
Me: facepalm
Sepsis is a blood poisoning that basically is caused from an infection you have that spread into the blood stream and becomes toxic to your organs and body. So yeah, three separate people with three totally different diseases died because it deteriorated into sepsis which was their cause of death, and my lovely co worker (who did graduate from mortuary school where you do have to learn biology and pathology and pass your state boards to become licensed) didn't want to catch it.
studdoc ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:22:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to tell a patient at the department for vascular surgery, who had been smoking for decades, had been told a thousand times to quit and had already had a removement of a pulmonary lobe done because of cancer, that his leg had to be removed below the knee, because the blood wasn't going through his vessels to the foot anymore.
His only reaction was the question: "but I can continue smoking, right?"
I had no words.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:20:56 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Only if you want to lose your other leg too, sir."
vijeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that actually the case when they remove it? I mean, no blood, zilch, nada? Or is it really, slightly below where the limb will stay alive for much longer?
studdoc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:21:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's such a small amount of blood that it hardly bleeds while removing the limb. The toes are turning black and wounds, once they are there, can't heal anymore. So, no blood is quite safe to say.
vijeno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dear. Well, I guess it's my own fault for asking. On the other hand, now I'm even more relieved I quit smoking a decade ago.
Lululemonparty_ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:28:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a patient come to clinic with a cough and was 20 or so weeks pregnant. I asked if she smoked and her answer was; I don't smoke, I vape. It's bad for the baby.
wowsuchtitan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:46:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor kid is going to come out as a pretentious hipster ://///
nelf4life ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:47:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
after reading this i feel at least 50% of the people don't belong on earth.
Solostinhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that would solve a few problems...
ihateflyingthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:13 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way I'd vote for Trump.
jennh7788 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:58 on February 5, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At the very least!!
rxpusher77 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:11:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist here... have a couple, but the one that sticks out most to me is a female patient comes up to the counter and starts to tell me how her medication for a vaginal yeast infection isn't working. I go through the usual and ask her how often she's using the medication, and I ask her on what day she's on. She says nightly and it's her 3rd day/night. I tell her, well you're supposed to be on the med for 7 days/night, but should feel some kind of relief. She says no. So I tell her to contact her MD to discuss. She pushes for me to call since she's there and maybe the doc can change the med so I can fill it while she's waiting. I call the doc and get the receptionist, and while I identify myself, she patient yells at me, "and tell the Dr. that it don't taste so good". I tell the receptionist to hang on a sec, and say to the patient, "Ma'am, that's a cream."
nemorina ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 01:18:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish there was a compulsory sex ed class for first year college student, especially after hearing all these horror stories of adults being clueless.That and I wish someone who taught sex ed to write a book about this horrifying lack of knowledge with the proper information. My God the US is a nation of idiots.
shyhalu ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:23:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
College? Most of the adults in question never made it that far. Others are immigrants who went to a diploma mill that doesn't teach a general education.
The better solution is to have IQ tests before you can breed.
coolotis123 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:41:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mum worked in a mental hospital and had to break up a fight between two people who both thought they were Jesus
iamathrogate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:42:57 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not very Christlike. They must have been spinning circles trying to turn the other cheek
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:51:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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taveren4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:53:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Username strangely relevant.
Blue-eyed-lightning ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:58:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt is a neo natal nurse practitioner (nurse who treats newborn babies) and she got a call from a patients husband asking if his wife could swim in water above her belly button. She informed that she could and asked why he had this question. He said "well that's where the baby is coming out, right?" She had to transfer the call to one of the doctors because she couldn't stop laughing.
DrSmushmer ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:06:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Counseling a woman on nutrition (her 8 year old son was morbidly obese), asked her if they ate vegetables. She said he won't eat vegetables. She said the only way she ever got him to eat vegetables was by baking corn into brownies, and even then he just picked the corn out and ate the brownies. At least she was honest.
Basic education about nutrition is sorely needed in this country. All it would take is a few short sessions with a dietician, but insurance almost never covers that. They'll gladly pay for most diabetes, cholesterol, and blood pressure meds, though.
ShamelessFox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:16:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The bullshit claim that a child won't eat vegetables galls me. I'll give you preferences. I didn't like brussel sprouts till adulthood but all sorts of other vegetables. Why? Because I wasn't given the choice between cake or cucumbers. Stop feeding your kids shit.
Spazmer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:34 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had the same thing with kids in my daycare. They eat all sorts of fruits and vegetables here because that's what we're having and this isn't a restaurant, but the parents are still cutting crusts off their sandwiches and saying they refuse to eat any fruit or vegetable. It's because you will make something else!
One 1.5 year old wouldn't eat solids... but only at home. So his mom would give him baby food. He hadn't eaten baby food at my house in months.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:28 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good G damn it! You're a parent not a catering service. Stop that shit. You raise brats into assholes.
My SO said he didn't mind XYZ vegetables if they were cut up small enough he didn't notice them. Fuck. That.
He now eats roasted brussel sprouts.
adalida ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have to wonder if it isn't somewhat connected to the reduction in people with confident kitchen skills. If you boil vegetables till they turn to mush, or steam them with no spices or flavorings, vegetables ARE pretty flavorless and gross, especially compared to fried chicken and ice cream.
ShamelessFox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:40:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will say that's why I didn't like brussel sprouts, but that still didn't get me out of eating at least a couple at dinner. The "he only likes pizza"/"she only eats chicken nuggets and tater tots" argument is what gets me. I was even forced to at least try liver. I meet adults who get prissy if their chicken has bones.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bursselaprouts are amazing with a little salt and some lemon juice <3 still smell like farts tho.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I slice them thin and then sautรฉ with butter, garlic, and S&P or roast with EVOO.
Sorry Mom, you're a great cook but you jacked up on the sprouts
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooooo that sounds delicious!!!
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I'll do the sliced brussel sprouts with sautรฉed kale, crumbled bacon, whatever other veggies I have on hand with one or two over easy eggs on top. Very filing and damn healthy. And now I need to go to the grocery store because I'm hungry. ;)
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Now i need hardboiled eggs....because Im ALSO hungry and the only things in my fridge are raw blackbeans, eggs and some milk. Need to grocery shop soon too.. lol
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The good old "sweep out the cabinets because we're getting down to only having dust bunnies in the house to eat" need to go shopping point. We've all been there ;)
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:12 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a flat of ramen and stuff for pancakes or oatmeal as well but yeah. Cleaned out the fridge and there is very very little left.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's the point where I will repeatedly open and close the fridge and cabinets like somehow new food will magically appear. Spoiler: it doesn't.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I forget the offerings cause Im only sorta hungry(or starving. I never forget when im regular hungry) but should eat because I skipped the last meal and so not only am I hoping there is magically new food, but reminding myself of all the food I DONT want to eat.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And in a twist I ended up having brussel sprouts with dinner tonight.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL I'll probably pick some up when I go shopping as well.
Dharmagal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Corn isn't even a vegetable. It's a grain. Sheesh.
QualitySalves ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:19:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If it helps, at least at my kids school, in California they push nutrition hard. He's in kindergarten and only drinks water now since it's the best thing to drink and knows candy is a sometimes food. It's awesome. I didn't know shit at his age about that stuff.
HelloChampion ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:14:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a med student. I explained to a forty-five year-old woman where her cervix is, just minutes before doing her pelvic exam. She had had a couple kids already, too! Edit:spelling sorry on mobile
Spazmer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:28:44 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dr had a med student when I was in for my yearly appt so I agreed that she could do the pelvic exam (her first ever.) My legs are up and she's taking a look and I hear "I can't find her cervix!" I said "I was sure it was there when I came in here..."
I think I'll let students learn on someone else.
HelloChampion ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:13:29 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol! On behalf of students, thank you for letting a student try. It's actually pretty tricky to find the cervix, it can be facing all different ways and might be really deep or shallow and we under- or overshoot with the speculum. Also, if there is any laxity in the vaginal walls, they cave in and you can't see anything, let alone a cervix! Practice, practice, and more practice is the only way we get better. That's why it's called practicing medicine. Haha. Thank you again for letting a novice train!!!
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
SOme people r just so ignorent
Dulceniaa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, some people are just so ignorant.
MsCNO ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:56:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a nurse. Was taking care of a patient who had been admitted with DNA but ended up needing dialysis and long-term antibiotics once it was discovered that the heel to their foot was basically rotting off. So while the patient is hospitalized, we checked their glucose levels in the morning, around meals, and before bed. One check was 59- which is way too low. I treat the glucose issue, and notice while I'm educating the patient about what I was doing, that they hadn't eaten their grilled chicken and vegetable dinner plate. I encourage the patient to eat but am met with complaints that it has no taste. A little more education about diabetes and diet, and the patient verbalizes understanding. Ten minutes later patient calls me into the room. The patient tells me a friend is going to bring them a burger and coke from Wendys and wanted to know if they could get me anything. I declined and tried to explain again about proper diet choices but the patient assured me this was the best way to bring up their "sugar numbers". Sure as shit, that patient ate two massive burgers, fries and the largest coke Wendys has to offer. Can't remember what the morning glucose was, but I know it was way higher than it should have been. SMH.
coreanavenger ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Me (admitting man with alcoholic cirrhosis to hospital): "Do you still drink any alcohol?"
Man: "Nope. I mean, just a few beers after work but that's not alcohol."
SlamBrandis ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:38:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had a few patients who told me they drank a lot(like, a fifth per day of hard liquor and a 40 of malt liquor) but don't believe they could be alcoholics because they never get drunk.
harten66 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:46:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is doctor, I think I hear a story at least 3 times a week of people "falling" on objects and getting them stuck up their asses.
Cbebop21 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:00:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I have two stories about my 70 year old crazy ass grandma. Just this weekend she remarks "I never knew you wouldn't have your period on birth control" because she never took it... she used a diaphragm 40 years ago but that's it. She had 5 children haha
Number 2 from my crazy ass grandma: she as a teenager didn't believe you could get pregnant before marriage as that's what she was taught in school in rural Virginia in the 50's. She got pregnant by a married man and was surprised...
rockeh ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:03:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously only one partner needs to be married.
Halley_Orion ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:41:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That your gay brother didn't turn into a hermaphrodite after having gay sex
That antibiotics won't help a cold
That trying to give yourself stiches with a fish hook is stupid
Littlebear333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did they get the fishing line(in a survival situation) and fishing hook mixed up?
_Satan_Clause_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:36:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I work in the animal/veterinary field and someone called us to say their cat was making strange sounds; it was purring. Also a different person was unaware that they needed to supply their dog with water.
Metalbass5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Time to revoke pet ownership privilege.
punknil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"well, doc, I've been watching him make his own water all over my furniture, I figured he could refill on his own."
danimal_621 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:26:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but worked closely with many docs. I'd room patients for office visits following stent placements and open heart surgeries. Typically these patients were put on medications to lower blood pressure and lower cholesterol "statins". Often times, these patients were "educated" on their new diets, however I had numerous patients who would come in and boast about how because they were on statins, they could eat whatever fatty foods they wanted, stop exercising, and generally become the most unhealthy people in existence. I'd estimate I gave, in a standard 40 hour week, over 15 hours of my time to educating patients on what their medications actually did, why they should avoid fatty foods, and the importance of maintaining an active lifestyle. Maybe not as "face palm" as you're looking for, but sometimes...
SlickTwitch ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:17:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The number of times a week I have to tell a patent that eggs aren't dairy.
megabyte1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:12:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know this was a thing till I was in a nutrition class and literally every other person in there was insisting eggs were dairy because they "are next to the milk in the store."
punknil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:27:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck. I was adulting so well until this one. I'm not lactose intolerant or anything, and I do prepare my eggs with milk or cheese most of the time anyways, but I honestly did not know this. Never stopped to think that it doesn't come from a milk animal and can't be dairy or have dairy proteins or sugars.
SlickTwitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:). You are not alone!
imjustsnooping ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:54:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly not a full grown adult, but my brother (he usually works with teens) had a patient refuse a finger prick blood sample because she was scared she'd "leak". As in, she would just slowly be drained of all her blood. Apparently her parents never explained the whole blood vessel thing.
Zen110 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:30:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never scraped a knee as a kid either, i suppose.
Plasmabat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hemophilia is a thing I geuss. Plus irrational phobias.
Zen110 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never scraped a knee as a kid either, i suppose.
panowhamma ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:30:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We had to tell a female patient that her lower back pain was not a cause of some prostate problem.
MonsterMango ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:10:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I remember a teacher telling us about this patient who was asked to gurgle/ rinse mouth with salted lukewarm water following a tooth extraction.
Now, the word for "lukewarm" is "kushum" in the local language. "Kushum" is also a word for "egg yolk" and in this case, it is always preceeded by the word for "egg" as in "egg yolk".
When the patient returned for follow-up appointment, a smelly mouth was the least of the problems.
The doctor had to explain that one's mouth is to be rinsed with clean water (with some salt for therapeutic purposes), not water with raw egg yolk mixed in.
Blaze_fox ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my friend who was 300+ pounds that perhaps eating 4000+ calories a day isnt helping him at all.
meanwhile im 168 pounds and eat 2900 calories and he says I eat too much...
Princess-Rufflebutt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:56:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of my ex, except I was 95 lbs and in the depths of an eating disorder, and he insisted I ate like a cow. Meanwhile he easily plowed through 3500+ calories a day.
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:57 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
2900 calories is a crazy amount for 168 lbs still unless you're working out for hours.
Blaze_fox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:33 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
thing is, im not.
im lazy as shit.
i also forgot to add on drinks to that total - including the amount of whole milk ill drink a day - that gets me an extra 2600 ontop of that.
i literally have no idea why i cant gain weight in spite of trying for 6 years
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:46:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my sister is a nurse. At least once a week, she has someone come in to confirm a pregnancy. They are always disappointed when she pulls out the exact same store brand of pregnancy tests they have already used.
Yes, they really are quite dependable.
Jbgators ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:29:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That the toe I was getting ready to amputate that day wasn't going to grow back.
flup00 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:22:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in the ER and we had a 21 year old patient that was there to get a bump checked out (turned out to be herpes), but he was also curious as to why his penis looked a little different. He asked why he had "more skin" than others. We explained that he was uncircumcised, and then he continued to question why he hadn't been circumcised as a kid. It was an interesting conversation.
yennifersass ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:55:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my mother that the urethra of a woman is not located below the vagina. It was a half hour long disagreement until I finally just googled a diagram of the female genitalia.
seiyonoryuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:26 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does she have a deformed vag or something? 0.o
GeoleVyi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:29:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but in medical manufacturing. I constantly have to explain (and explain, and explain) to my adult friends who work in the food industry that no, mustard does not act as a surefire cure for burns, and you shouldn't run warm water over them either.
rynpaige ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 22:43:22 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but because of Cards Against Humanity, I had to have a fun convo with my mom explaining what Bukkake was....or as she was pronouncing it "Boo-Cake"
Terimary ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:55:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had this conversation playing with our family on thanksgiving. Talk about awkward.
Based-God- ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:20:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and the inevitable "how do the hell do you know what that is?"
have_some_composure ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:46:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To avoid having to explain it entirely, I have to tell my parents beforehand that urban dictionary is their friend during the game, and they're totally allowed to look stuff up (although sometimes it's funnier without it). Hell, I don't even know some of the weird shit in there.
Raineythereader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sick bastard. I like you :)
have_some_composure ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:10 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not explaining yiffing to my father. Or how I know that. Jesus christ.
Rising_Swell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your parents clearly sucks, my mother wouldnt even have to ask how i know that, already knowing it was most likely porn.
MomSaysNo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:24:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh...I had to explain "queef" to my aunt.
evil_burrito ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha. This happened recently. We were playing with some friends and one of the friend's mother, who is in her 80s. We were trying to gently explain "queef" to the mother until her daughter just lost patience and said, "mom, it's a pussy fart". Mom said, "oh" and nodded. Some experiences are cross-generational, I guess.
rentheadedgleek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain "queef" to my mom...
Vandorbelt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:32:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I wish my parents weren't heavily conservitive Christians. Then I could actually play games like CAH with them and not be disowned. I mean, for fuck's sake, I have to constantly censor everything I do because we've got 6 people in a three bedroom house and there is never any privacy. Hell, they wouldn't let me lock my door just to be alone when I had my own room (I wasn't even doing naughty things, just wanted to be by myself)...
I can only imagine what would happen if my mom figured out that I knew what bukkake is...
raikumori ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my mother, father, and 60 year old aunt what the shocker was because we were at Halloween on a local campus and that was someone's costume and I laughed at it.
xixoxixa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Played with a physician's assistant student who pronounced cholera as 'coal-air-a' and tentacles as 'ten-tackles'.
tepidstringysemen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm always embarrassed playing cah with family. I always have to feign ignorance about what boo cake is
yami_riku ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
High five! I had to explain that to my entire family recently! Hearing the disgusted "aw"s across the table was well worth it.
heartpony123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:19:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This may sound crazy; but what is a Bukkake
Edit: Nevermind that's disgusting ๐ฃ
Propyl_People_Ether ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a relevant Ghastly's Ghastly Comic somewhere... or maybe it was Sexy Losers? I'm not sure.
luckierbridgeandrail ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Buck cake was Ghastly's Comic; โthe story of how you were bornโ was Sexy Losers.
Propyl_People_Ether ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I thought it probably was - I remember Ghastly's being fonder of silly wordplay - but I remembered that Sexy Losers had at least one entire recurring storyline centered around bukkake so that gave me pause.
housebrickstocking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In her defense the doctors hardly ever prescribe it anymore.
sweatybronson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uhhh.. you're playing cards against humanity with your family.
What are y'all expecting?
rynpaige ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I expected my grown ass mom (who isn't that old...she's 51 and pretty hip) to know what bukkake was
poorexcuses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My family knows I speak Japanese and they asked me this and I was like well it's what they call the culinary practice pouring broth over food, but there's another thing it also refers to....
sg92i ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a similar experience at Christmas dinner with my family one year. My brother had said something and I misheard it, thinking he had just said "bukkake." I then said "wait, did you just say bukkake?" He turned beat red, repeated what he actually said (I don't remember what it was now) and then explained to the family what bukkake was and said something to the effect of: "I wonder how my sister knows what bukkake is." I responded with "I wonder how you know what bukkake is." And then there was awkward silence for a while.
megalynn44 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:40:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It didn't so much call for a conversation, but I do have a story from my Dr. husband that I think fits.
He came home just saying "Four days!" Over and over in disbelief. Finally he tells me this woman came in that day..... she had previously had an appointment 4 days sooner but rescheduled. Anyways, she comes in complaining that she thinks there's a bug stuck in her ear..... she can feel it moving. Husband is dubious. Who would let a bug sit in their ear for days on end? But sure enough, a cockroach was jammed in her ear canal. A large one that barely fit. Luckily it was dead by the time he pulled it out.
But yeah. 4 days!!
MzOpinion8d ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:12:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Just no.
CanOfMonkeys ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:02:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paramedic, not a Doctor. Went to a house for a sick kid. The kid had flu-like symptoms. This was around the time of the swine flu scare. The mom wanted to us to bring her kid to the hospital, but also evaluate her other children because they had all ate pork earlier that week and she was worried they would get sick as well.
DangitImtired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:17 on January 18, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think I blinked for about 15 seconds after reading this story. Hoping to get those brain cells back that just killed themselves.
DrewHunterTn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:16 on January 30, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
very much this. https://68.media.tumblr.com/12fb7d52765eab387533b6acf5d2d436/tumblr_ne3sormeEc1qk7scno2_500.gif
lpmiller83092 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:29:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a physician, but as an Athletic Trainer at a D1 university we had an athlete who kept complaining of shin pain. At first it was manageable and even getting better, but after a while it got drastically worse. We spent a lot of time trying to figure out why this girl was having so much trouble all of the sudden because rehab, rest, various medications and modalities were not working. We come to find out that this girl had been operating on the wrong side of "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" by way of taking a hammer to her shins every night in order to "help the bones get stronger."
For those that don't have a background let me explain a bit. Other than the obvious 'duh' of don't hit yourself with a hammer, she wasn't all wrong. As far as body growth goes there's this concept called "Wolff's Law" which at its core states that the body becomes stronger by applying stress to the body. But this happens in relation to the force applied. For the long load bearing bones, the vectors of force usually applied are approximately along the long axis of the bone, making them stronger in resisting this force. However, they aren't as strong at resisting a crushing force perpendicular to this axis and so these hammer blows were causing micro fractures in the bone and not healing.
TL;DR the athlete had pain in her shins, we didn't know why. Found out she was hitting her shins with a hammer, we said "stop that, dummy"
MrFuzzynutz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How does this kind of stupid get spread around or come up with?
lpmiller83092 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It just happens. A good amount is the bastardization of research titles, half-truths from research, or taking information from a disreputable or anomalous study then printing it in tabloids, clickbait or the like. there's just a lot of mis-information out there that is doing a disservice to the population at large.
MrFuzzynutz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Very true
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:04:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: I'm not a doctor, but a hospital was involved
I was getting a regular medical check up, my first time at at this clinic. The nurse taking my vitals and usual introductory processing. She gets to asking me about any medications I'm on. I told her about my anti-depressant, my only med, and she responds with "haha, you kids these days are so soft"
I looked at her, reminded her (as my age is on the chart) that I'm 32, and some people suffer from chemical Imbalances and depression/anxiety. She just shrugged, said the doctor would see me soon and left.
The doctor asks if I wanted the flu vaccine while there, I agree, and find out the same nurse is the one giving me the shot. I hadn't had one in a while, and asked if it's normal to not feel the shot, and she just laughed hysterically and said "only if you're good at it," to which I told her she shouldn't really suggest she's bad at it, and forewent the shot until another visit
PlumbumGus ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:57:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. That's incredibly insensitive. I might've walked out and never came back.
WeeWooBooBooBusEMT ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:29:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have complained about her to the doc.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:30:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did. Turned out she was part time and covering for someone on vacation
promiseimnotonreddit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:23:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, not to take away from your pain, because I imagine that if you were already depressed it must have been crushing. I'm sorry, friend.
I just wanted to share with you, b/c I know you'll get it, my experience with a suicide hotline. I get my healthcare from a large, multi-doctor hospital with a huge mental health department that staffs its own crisis hotline. So the woman (who was an LMFT I should mention) who picked up on me had my chart right in front of her, with all my depression and anxiety records, back to my first suicide attempt at 13. I told her I was in crisis, I was stressing about my midterm later that day (because that's what I fucking do, I stress) and she told me "Well, if it doesn't make you happy, why are you majoring in math?"
Bitch. Nothing makes me happy, you cunt.
winchesterbros ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I went to the doctor to get medication for my depression and anxiety (I had seen a specialist and whatnot as well), he was asking me the general questions about if I self harmed and how I was feeling. He concluded that my depression was a '2 or 3 out of 10'. Yeah thanks for making my feelings mostly invalid, which was something I was very insecure about at the time. A 3 to him could have felt like a 10 to me and I felt like it was a super insensitive thing for him to say to me, especially when I was so fragile.
pigsinwigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
People that don't understand the chemical imbalances are the worst. Especially those in the medical field.
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 02:22:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair she wasn't far off. You pussied out of a flu shot man.
SavvySillybug ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:15:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd pussy out of a flu shot too, if the nurse seemed extremely unprofessional.
I'm not about to be stabbed by someone who acts like they just wandered in off the street, put on a nurse outfit, and the doctor didn't notice.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:38:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, I decided not to let this imbecile hold a sharp object near my naked skin as she implied she wasn't qualified to do so.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 06:44:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fucking flu shot, you pussy. A drunk eight year old could do it.
Beviah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Since when? First of all, drunk eight year olds seem common where you live, not surprised judging by your intelligence quotient (or lack thereof, rather), where people like myself and OP come from, we're from a mystical, magical place referred to as "civilization", where things have morals and logic, something you seem to be lacking, second of all, let's address the fact you probably didn't know there were different injections that could be administered, and don't even know how to administer an injection properly but yet feel the need to tell someone else that you felt they were subhuman, solely on the basis for not allowing someone who seems to be that of your species to give them a flu shot?
Perhaps I should explain this to you, slowly and clearly, but, what is wrong with you? I'm genuinely curious, this thread is in dedication for those like yourself, so, let's add to this thread right now, what other stupid things do you feel like saying?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
QQ moar pl0x
Beviah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:50 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In other words: "I'm 13 btw haha"
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:47 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever makes you feel better, kiddo.
Beviah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:58 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"QQ moar pl0x" "Kiddo" ๐ค
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:36 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're the one still salty about it so I'd say my job is done, kiddo =.=
bahhamburger ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:53:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was an intern on the Transplant service and a patient was urgently re-admitted to evaluate her kidney transplant. She was taking an immunosuppressant called Tacrolimus and it's dosed up until your blood levels reach the right number. So you leave the hospital with 1mg pills and 0.5 mg pills and you end up taking some combination of the two.
This poor lady asked her nurse if the two bottles of medication were the same and the nurse said "yes" as in they're both Tacrolimus. The patient took it to mean they were entirely interchangeable. So when she was told to take "X and a half pills" she was cutting her pills in half but she had mixed them together so she could have been under dosing her meds by quite a bit. Fortunately her nephrologist caught on at her follow up appointment and sent her to the hospital.
She was distraught when I admitted her to the hospital because she was afraid of losing her new kidney. She was also really angry at the nurse for not explaining the medications better because "Nobody told me 0.5 is a half!! Nobody told me!" And I realized at that moment this 40-some year old woman didn't understand basic fractions. And I don't blame the nurse for not realizing this but I took it as a lesson that you really can't assume your patients know what you're talking about.
enocc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today I told a woman that getting a certain item at my store would be an additional x amount of dollars. After I rang it up she got confused as to why the total was more than before.
I fucking said additional. I swear, whenever people I know insist that the general population isn't full of idiots I laugh at them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:50 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
do they not go to schools? at all?
Quiltron3000 ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 22:06:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Multiple times a day I have to tell customers that just because they weren't using services for that particular month, the bill still has to be paid.
matjojo1000 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:45:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quiltron3000 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:44:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I completely missed the doctors in the beginning. That's what I get for not reading -____-
ItsJinvy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:58:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, this still made me laugh though lol
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, my phone/internet doesn't work that way, they might think other things might not work that way either
ascentstudios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I swear to whatever the hell you beleive in that I've seen that phrase exactly talking about something else.
promark20 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but, my job just hired someone whom I have to have a "general hygiene" conversation with.
Hayleycakes2009 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:14:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are always awkward
FortunateKitsune ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry. I hope they listen to you...
BS-Chaser ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:20:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctor here. Older diabetic patient (diabetic for many years), sugars were too high over a few months despite maximal oral medication, next step- 'the dreaded insulin'. Mentioned that she'd need to start insulin, she recoiled in horror, then said "I guess I'd better cut back on the cakes and biscuits then". I was stunned that she was still eating whatever she liked (sweet tooth, obviously) after multiple years of diabetes education, that she just didn't "get it".
Hefzy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay so i had this twenty-something patient, she came to me because she wanted to learn about anticonceptive methods. Everything was pretty well, until we got to the femenine condom. After paying attention to my every word, she asks : "And...if i decide to use a femenine condom, does that mean that i'm going to lose my virginity?" I just looked at her like...dude...dude.
PervertedOldMan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:24:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but me and my friend had to explain to a 20-something man that women in fact do not suffer from urinary incontinence once a month.
Citiesmadeofasses ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a bilingual patient who drank his enema before a butt procedure.
When asked if everything went OK with the enema, he responded that it tasted bad. Fortunately, the physician spoke Arabic and figured out he did in fact drink his butt wash. Poison control was called and he was monitored for four hours without any issue. Explicit instructions were given to him for his rescheduled surgery.
makyman1234 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:48:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, im a nurse. Once had family of a brain dead patient ask when she will wake up from her coma. Cant count how many times i had to explain you dont need antibiotics for viral infections. Lots of people think a blood test will show hiv or other sti's a few moments after having sex. Erectile dysfunction is not something you get checked out in the er. Neither is a callus on the bottom of your foot, and no you cant have a note to skip work for it. You dont call 911 for a sore throat.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:00:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what colour urine did he pee out for the last 55 years................
imminent_riot ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:02:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother is a nurse and I had to explain to her that women masturbate. She was in her sixties at the time and had just never come across anything about it, never occurred to her to do it at all.
moonshining13 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:31:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neonatologist here, I've just delivered a beautiful baby boy, and the father asked me "if the baby can still breath under the water", the guy was a lawyer...
Brittcom ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:35:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend, who was attending school to become a nurse, thought that babies were in the belly... the belly. I was pregnant with my daughter 13 years ago and had to have a conversation with her about my uterus. She was shocked. Funny side note, her mom was sitting with us in her kitchen when we had this convo. She looked so embarrassed, like she knew she should have told her about this years ago.
karmanman ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:37:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a pt that wanted to get pregnant and could not. Turns out she was on oral contraceptives to treat her polycystic ovarian syndrome and could not understand why it worked as birth control if she wasn't taking it as a contraceptive. It still would be difficult for her to get pregnant without the contraceptives but she just couldn't understand.
Hawkeye1867 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:38:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but used to work in an ER as a tech. Had a hispanic family come in because their kid had the flu. We gave them tylenol, fever went down, we sent them home...routine right? Nope.
Four hours later, family comes back saying that the kid has a fever again. The doctor then had to go in and ask, "soooo did you give him tylenol again?" They didnt, they thought the one dose cured him. Little sad, but also a facepalm moment.
readhead_Nicole ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:17:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to inform my 22 yr old cousin that the rule her bible college had of "boys and girls must sit at least 3 ft away from each other in a hot tub" did not mean it was possible for a girl to become pregnant if she sat too close to a boy.
sativasalmon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And to this day, the tall girls on the ski and basketball teams forfeited their competitions the day after hot tub night due to "tendonitis" and "tennis elbow"
ms-anthrope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:41 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i picture a bunch of religious dorks with some kind of underwater apparatus designed to sneakily touch each other in the hot tub. like the claw, but sexier.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:29:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was sent to imaging for ob/gyn related stuff and the attending nurse told me the patient she had before me wasn't aware that she didn't have a uterus. I guess it went along the lines of, nurse: "oh wow, you've had your uterus removed?" patient: "I wasn't aware". Hmmm
rameninside ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:53:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did patient H&Ps on a cardiac care unit once. A lot of these patients have comorbidities including diabetes, high blood pressure, etc. A surprising number of them don't know that fruit juice has a ton of sugar in it.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:42:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No, Diet Coke is not sufficient to manage your blood sugar"
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would bet that nurses have more of these conversations than doctors do. The RN is with the patient for 12 hours at a time qhere as the doctor comes in for 15 minutes and then bolts.
Solostinhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where do I go to get 15 minutes with a doctor? I've never in my life had more than five minutes with a doctor (that wasn't delivering a baby or performing surgery) and if I was lucky I got ten minutes with a PA.
FYI: great for healthy patients but I promise you cannot condense the evaluation of a patient with an undiagnosed autoimmune disorder into 5-10 minutes. Something will be missed. Took 20 years to get help.
suxandatropine ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-In the Newborn Nursery asked a 1st time mother how the child was feeding, her response: "I have to feed it?".....
-In the ER had a young girl state she couldn't be pregnant, she was on the pill she..."put one in" every day....
-Per a colleague had a patient present in DKA, recently diagnosed diabetic on insulin, after treatment and recovery the patient insisted he was taking his insulin regularly when asked how he told the nurse "well give me an orange." Many patients are taught to give themselves injections on fruit, he apparently stopped paying attention at this point and had been injecting oranges with insulin and then eating them....
TL;DR: 1. You have to feed babies 2. Oral Contraceptive Pills need to be taken Orally 3. Subcutaneous Insulin does not work in fruit
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:20 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the number of women who "put one in" instead orally consuming the BC pill is too high!
derpman86 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:57:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After reading this thread one thing that NEEDS to be taught and that is sex ed and basic human biology in classes.
Also many people in general are so damn useless!!
oz_moses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
YES!
Which is why what really needs to be taught is: Stop Breeding Just Because You Can.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:14:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay not a doctor but I saw a dental hygienist comment so I figured I'm good. I'm an optician and the amount of times people came in with fucking conjunctivitis was astounding. Every single one of them from wearing contacts too long, or doing something equally gross like swishing them around in a mouth full of spit to clean them. TAKE YOUR FUCKING CONTACTS OUT. Just because the box says thirty days doesn't mean you can keep them in for thirty straight days. (Or over a year which still blows my mind, would you wear the same underpants for a year straight without washing them? Those are your eyes damnit!)
Also people in the US. We don't give a damn that you have a box, we need an Rx or you won't get the contacts. My favorite excuse is "but I can't see without them"
So your 20/400+ and don't own a pair of glasses? I'm sorry but I have no sympathy at all.
shadfc ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:51:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Humor me a little on why I need a prescription for contacts/glasses. I get that I need to see a doctor for the exam and to get the right prescription but once I know that, what's the purpose? Is it just to make sure people get seen semi regularly to update it in case their vision changes?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
With contacts the federal government requires a doctor to see a patient to renew the Rx because contacts are a medical device that makes direct prolonged contact with organ tissue. As such abuse of the device can lead to serious consequences for the patient. Loss of sight, loss of tissues, ECT ECT. Docs need to make sure your not being an idiot with your contacts. Andnthebrx is different from your glasses Rx because contacts need to have different power and account for shape of the cornea and wearing modality.
Glasses on the other hand, those laws are state by state. Honestly man unless your diabetic or something you know if you need new glasses and shouldn't have to see a doc unless you want them renewed. Still a good habit, like the dentist, to see at least an optometrist every few years. Eye exams can show you a lot and I can't count how many times my doctor has caught shit you wouldn't expect. Saved some lives in some cases, like catching small strokes before the big one hit. But I'd be lying to you if I told you that making glasses rxs expire wasn't just a way to get you to buy more glasses. Naturally your eyes go through periods of change, due to age or environment or both. In many states a guy in my profession can neutralize a pair of broken glasses to get your Rx off of them if you want. Big shops like Lenscrafters and Visionworks discourage this but in some states can't stop me from doing it. But when you need a new Rx, and you will at some point, you'll know it. But a lot of people go years without their Rx needing to be changed. Some people do need it tweeked more often, bit again it's your eyes, you'll know if you need a better Rx if your paying attention and know what a good one can do for you. Doctors will always say in a retailer that your Rx has changed but in reality it may not be that different. Hope you get an honest optician, like myself who would shoot straight with you. I always found people appreciated the truth. Glasses are fucking expensive, I hate the way the industry screws people sometimes. Any other questions feel free man.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:54:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You need to report that damn doctor man that's fucking wrong.
Raineythereader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a (fortunately) far less serious example. My right (gas-perm) contact was bothering me for about a year and a half: drying out soon after I put it in, lots of gunk in the corner of my eye at the end of the day, etc. My optometrist recommended a certain brand of eyedrops, and gave the lens a few thorough cleanings, but nothing worked.
Then I tried a different office, and they immediately figured out that the lens had changed shape slightly, and fixed me up with a new one.
Squirrelwinchester ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:24 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Its still one of those simple solutions that should have been caught quickly. That is really a pain in the ass and they should have been more observant. Youre lucky that it didnt cause eye damage!
JoDoc1995 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:44:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, to be honest (and horribly grossed out) I in fact DO know a girl who, in high school, never washed her underwear. "Mom said I can just wear them till they wear out. If you wash them they wear out faster". She had multiple shirts and pants but WOWZA did she smell!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, nasty dude.
friendlysub ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What if you wear month-long contacts for many months - but remove them every night and keep them in fresh solution?
wonderstruck1705 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:33:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Still not okay, the contacts are designed only to last a month, and will begin breaking down after that. So within the month, the surface that touches your eye is nice and smooth. After that, it breaks down so it becomes rough and bumpy. This leads to irritation, dry eyes, and exposes the surface of your eye to bacteria more easily because it can get stuck in the rough surface of both the contact and your eye
beardlessclamlover ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:12:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a woman with vaginal prolapse stick a Potatoe up her vagina to "keep it in place". Ended up coming to hospital with sepsis and a Potatoe with roots grown into her vaginal wall. Freaking crazy. Sometimes I wonder why there's such a huge IQ gap between humans.
Anatolysdream ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:08:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, fucking Jesus. That's like some paranormal horror story where instead of seeing a doctor, she would have planted herself, the roots would grow through her body and she would become a new species of potato. Meatnpotato.
jjpdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:11:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm thinking she becomes Groot.
Perththrowaway121 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, you sure stepped up to that one
cbcfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me that was in a country without socialized medicine! At least there's the poverty excuse.
nocturnalfrolic ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:51:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait.... THE HELL?!!
beardlessclamlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:56 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No kidding
Corey307 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:30:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dumb+mental illness=crazy shit.
MT_Straycat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:55:04 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Modern medicine keeping the stupid ones alive despite themselves so they can breed is my theory.
Music_Lady ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:10:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was the first one that truly horrified me. Congrats!
IronicJeremyIrons ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:44:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
the potato was growing into her babyhole?
beardlessclamlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:40 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yup.
glossandfloss ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 20:48:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My manager thought she'd need to get a passport to go to Florida for spring break.
We live in California.
WTXRed ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:08:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When people ask that, the answer is yes and you know a guy that can get the state passport cheap. It's only 100 dollars.
thehonestyfish ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 21:06:34 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if you don't have any other form of government photo ID, you might need to get a passport.
smile-with-me ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 21:34:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if you don't have any other form of government photo ID you might have some trouble getting a passport.
entitude ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:49:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Damn I can't afford the twenty dollars for a state ID....Better go drop $100 on a passport."
ips0fakt0 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:44:35 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some if not all states do allow you to get a state ID. Similar requirements as a drivers licence just no driver exam. I knew a few people who got them when they where 18 or 21 because they did not drive but needed ID.
also
Unless the stalemate between Pennsylvania and the Department of Homeland Security breaks starting in 2018 a PA drivers licence will no longer be accepted for domestic air travel.
It is already no longer accepted at federal buildings, military bases, and nuclear power plants
http://wnep.com/2016/12/27/pa-drivers-license-not-valid-id-for-future-air-travel/
Kuryaka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And multiple other states.
http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/no-drivers-license-tsa-rule
Shifty link because I'm on mobile and can't be bothered to find a more reputable source, but I remember seeing this when going through security a week ago.
StabbyPants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:56:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
they're in california. everybody drives
ManiacallyReddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure about CA, but in MO (assuming the government doesn't get off their asses and do something about it) you will need a passport to fly anywhere as of next January. Now, if she was driving, that's particularly bad.
IMO though, I usually recommend getting a passport if it's economically feasible. They're just easier to deal with while traveling.
on_my_lunch_break ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:25 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of state-level IDs are no longer good for TSA purposes... so if you're flying, she just might!
Kuryaka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
California is fine, but a few other states with less stringent requirements on drivers licenses won't be able to use them in 2018.
http://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/no-drivers-license-tsa-rule
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not uncommon at all. A lot of people think a passport is just something you need to get on a plane.
meeturself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you don't have a proper form of ID on you, such as a drivers license, a passport works perfectly fine as well.
neccoguy21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:19 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not for things like buying cigarettes or liquor. Passports don't have things like your weight, height, or eye color to definitively say whether it's you or not.
Don't ask me why we can fly internationally without that info but need it to buy smokes.
redditisadamndrug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, here in the UK neither passports nor driving licenses have that information. You have to be 18 to buy alcohol and you generally won't be asked for ID after the age of 20.
nickifoxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:58:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My SO uses a passport for buying liquor everytime he loses his license. (Too often)
neccoguy21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I use too. Most places don't bat an eye, but every now and then I get some uppity manager bitch who just wants to pull that card.
SportsDoctor13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Miami. It's a different fucking country down here.
shadfc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's coming true for Minnesotans (where I live) and some other states when traveling via air. Looks like TSA won't accept our drivers licenses starting around Feb 1
pinks1ip ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your mom sounds like she belonged in Florida the whole time. ZING!
pastaeater88 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:20:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yes, it's the same moon in all 50 states"
RDF50 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:34:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, are you a doctor or an astrologer?
pastaeater88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:31 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Italian so yes
RDF50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:55 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grazie, Signore dottore!
rekaba117 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:07:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That you need to vaccinate your kids
AbridgedKirito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This
gamer5554 ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 21:32:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents think that you can get a cold from being cold, even though I've told them that they are wrong several times.
lilac2481 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:39 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, I used to think this as well.
gamer5554 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:41:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The funny thing is, is that my mom was a nurse
CommentingLurker8 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:19:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is actually true to an extent. Getting really cold lowers your immune system and makes it easier for a flu to infect you. This is especially true in cases where a person may already be carrying a flu or some type of virus in them that hasn't manifested yet but the exposure to cold and the toll it takes on the body allows for the flu to take shape. So, while being cold doesn't give you a cold it does have a possible effect on getting a cold and people often speak in generalities, especially parents.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:02:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think that's actually been proven yet and some studies even show that being cold can boost the immune system
SirX86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. People from before we had microscopes may have mistaken correlation for causality but they weren't completely clueless.
noodletropin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A cold and the flu aren't the same thing.
Rando_gabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Happens to me every time the season changes
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:50 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mother badger me this about this all the time. She is also convinced that if she is cold (which is always) then everyone is cold also, despite our claims that it's actually rather warm.
Rando_gabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:13 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Weird question, are there a lot of guys in your family? Us girls tend to run cold
She shouldn't assume everyone shares her temperature tho
I_miss_Alien_Blue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's mostly Guys in my family, but even among them I am always abnormally warm. Even in the middle of January with the thinnest sheet I have and the fan I still will have trouble sleeping cus I'm so warm
My mother is also the type of person who is always right, meaning that no matter how wrong she is, she is still somehow "right". If she offers to do something and you say no, she doesn't it anyway because she's right. You tell her specifically not to do something, she'll do it anyway because mother knows best. You might tell her that every utterance that just left her mouth is as incorrect as could possibly be regarding a subject, whatever, she'll keep telling you the same thing tomorrow
Rando_gabby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes. I mean my mom isn't that bad but I've seen that quality in some degree in most mothers. Even my grandmothers.
As for temperature, I have the opposite problem. I run cold. Of course I work near a server room and my apartment is on the ground floor so in every scenario the temperature is slightly chilly even for the average dude. And I'm an unaverage chick.
I can never get warm.
stackered ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:19:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
being cold does "weaken" your bodies immune system, so while the cold may not cause an infection it could lead to a great chance of being infected, definitely.
riptaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
JustARedditUser0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:59:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And bacteria survives better in colder climates as well, (I think?)
riptaway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:49:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh, warm moist environments
littlemissredtoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There have been recent studies that show the cold virus is more active during cold weather - so while being cold won't give you a cold, you have a higher chance of catching it in cold weather...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I keep seeing this everywhere. It's not completely true. Rhinovirus (one virus that can cause common cold) incubates better below normal human temperature (91ยฐ-95ยฐF). So, you are more likely to become infected with the cold virus if your face and nose are cold when exposed.
Tigerzombie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My parents insisted that my daughter was getting sick so often is because I'm not dressing her warmly enough. It can't possibly be that it was her first year of school surrounded by other germ factories.
Banana-balls ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:51:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
third year med student at a top US medical school didnt know what cognition meant and when explained still didnt understand. the end result was me going "you know. thinking. with your brain." they laughed and what "whaaaat?".
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:57:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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lilac2481 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is that show still on? I live in the U.S and saw the episodes on youtube.
Oznog99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's like a magic marker down there.
Drop-bears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I saw that episode , and remember thinking "how on earth could you NOT wipe correctly? What was he doing???"
ozzagahwihung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know, right?
Even if he didn't learn properly as a child, he'd have to figure something was up in his 20s, wouldn't he? I mean, had he never washed a car before? Or a floor? Or a counter top?
Maybe it was fake
miscaccount223 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:19:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In this linked case report, a woman kept coming to the ED with abdominal pain and free air in her belly, which is treated as a surgical emergency. After multiple exploratory laparotomies, which found nothing, they discovered that this woman kept getting free air in her belly because her sexual partner kept blowing air into her vagina, which eventually went into her uterus and out her fallopian tubes. I can't imagine what that conversation was like! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11051188
notsurebutbestguess ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:33:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a dentist, I sometimes find that I have to explain to my patients that it's the LOWER jaw they have to move, not the upper. And still they think they can somehow move their upper jaw.
CommissarCabron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's just friggin' sad.
clitoral_experience ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:22:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but work in a pharmacy. We get people ALL THE TIME trying to fill multiple narcotics because 'ones for my knees and the other is for my back'. Oh. Okay. Let me fill the oxy and other oxy for you.
stauffski ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:31:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient that wanted to sign herself out of the emergency room that the ambulance had just brought her to because her room didn't have a television in it. She had a life threatening breathing condition.
ButDidYouCry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:33:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I was a corpsman for five years and this lady came in for a pap smear and we (the PA and myself) found a tampon inside of her vagina she'd forgotten about for the past month... One of the most disgusting if not the top disgusting thing I have ever seen or smelled while I was in the service. How the fuck does someone just forget about a tampon? How do you not notice your vagina smelling like rotten death?
She was married and her husband liked having with with her every night, too.
Stephen1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Spoken to a few Dr's who reported this happening. Sounds fairly common
ButDidYouCry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's absolutely disgusting though when it happens. It's why I'd never want to do gyn as a career.
spartan1008 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:34:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a doctor, but I went to a Greek orthodox high school and had to explain to a class mate that condoms did not cause HIV. He thought that when condoms break, that HIV magically manifests, and so he refused to use them with his girlfriend. To make matters worst, this was in class with the teacher present, and she was unsure who was right or wrong. I then had to explain that HIV is the name of the disease and that AIDS was the end result, this lead to several minutes of arguing in the class room. To be fair, I transferred in the 10th grade, so I had gone through 3 years of sex ed while the rest of my classmates had gone to school there exclusively.
allyourbase51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIV is the name of the virus that causes AIDS.
dropdgmz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:55:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not a doctor but i work in a medical office and I overheard a provider explain to a 20 year old that you cant get AIDS from someone who doesn't have it. When people have sex they cant just make AIDS, it has to come from someone who actually has it. I dont know how the rest of the conversation went, but Maybe she thought sex was like a chemical experiment and what you get in the end is a mystery and could be devastating to your life.
Latent_blue ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I was a 3rd year medical student working in Pelenomi hospital, Bloemfontein, South Africa.
As part of our rotation we have to attend deliveries (births)
So here we are standing in a room - three students in our white coats peering over the shoulder of the midwife when the husband taps me on the shoulder.
Now to picture this guy - you might want to have a look at ninja from "die antwoord" (the stereotypical 'common' zef afrikaans folk, I'm not certain what terminology would be used in USA)
This guy then asks me - oblivious to what's happening with his wife (in Afrikaans) - "so Doc, how long before I can hit that again?"
(In Afrikaans. "So dok, hoe lank voordat ek haar weer kan kap?"
I made up some BS and told him to wait at least six months (however I don't think he listened)
whynotfather ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:29:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to instruct a mid twenties gal that she is having recurring UTI because she needs to 1. Wipe front to back 2. Not cram multiple monastats to treat her symptoms 3. To never douche, nope not every few days.
I then had to tell her that she will have a rough smelling vagina for a few days to weeks while this sorts itself out and returns to baseline.
Workerbee7 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:04:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked in the medical field for a while and I can't tell you how many times I've head older patients come in and say "absolutely not -nope I am not having a routine colonoscopy" and bitch and complain about it. Almost everyone over 40 has some type of colon polyps, usually benign but if you don't get them removed early they can turn into cancer. 90 percent of all patients are total idiots who often refuse preventive care. Ugh
Lady_Penrhyn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has routine colonoscopies (his mother died from bowel cancer...by the time she went to get checked out it was stage 4 and metastasised) and he says the worst part is the uhh...preparation beforehand. The actual procedure is fine. You go...they knock you out. Done.
Karenswalk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:32 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The prep SUCKS you have to drink some nasty stuff! The colonoscopy itself no big deal. They put you out and you wake up. I go again soon to make sure the cancer hasn't returned.
Workerbee7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:19 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really not that bad. I've done it four times now and yes it's really important for cancer prevention, so everyone should do it. And all the other preventive shit doctors tell you to do lol
hiddendarkness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:50 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had two, and I'm not even 30 yet. The prep is the only bad part. Although, IV's aren't my favorite thing either. It's really important for people to do especially if they have family history of colon cancer like me.
Aperture_Kubi ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:45:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Son of a short practicing nurse here, one day my mom ranted at the TV about one of those prevent cancer foundation commercials saying "With how much money they have, how have they not found a cure!?"
"Mom, do you even know what cancer is?"
". . . no"
The woman who bragged to me she was a nurse everybody!
RadTechGal ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:55:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not a doctor. I work in Radiology and our registration workers wouldn't place a patient identification band on someone who was positive for AIDS. They were in fear of "catching" AIDS. It is truly sad the ignorance people have.
Smokeybearvii ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:11:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a 33 yr old female explain to me in clinic that she was having abdominal pain, bloating and cramping. It was usually mild and occurred like clockwork every month, a couple days before she would start her period. This is how she knows that her period was going to start. She wanted to know if this was normal, or a sign of something more sinister.
I thought most women figured this out at about age 13. (Also the age of her menarche).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors always get pissed at me for googling symptoms... I bet they are so shocked when someone doesn't know something basic like this.
EmagehtmaI ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:21:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna get buried, but here goes:
I'm a nurse. I had a patient come in, can't remember what for. But I remember that, as part of his initial assessment, I asked him when his last bowel movement was. He gave me a blank stare and asked "what?" I assumed he hadn't heard me, so I repeated louder: "When was your last bowel movement?" Again, blank stare, looked at me and said "A what?" Me: "Bowel movement? Poop?" He looks at me and goes "YOU MEAN A SHIT?" I finally realized that this man had no idea what a bowel movement was and only knew it by that word. So I had to look at the patient and go "Yeah. When was your last shit?"
Side note: later realized he was on the lower end of the IQ spectrum. Lived at home with his dad, even though the patient was well into his 40s. Also very backwoods.
Liv-Julia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:04:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't feel bad- I was doing diabetic and kidney DS diet teaching with a pt when he opened up a bag of flaming hot Cheetos in the middle of the session.
EmagehtmaI ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:42:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a patient get discharged one time on a cardiac/diabetic/renal diet. I looked at another nurse and was just like "Shit, what's this poor guy going to eat?" Vegetables and water, I guess. Just not starchy vegetables. Or veggies high in potassium. But not too much water because he was on a fluid restriction.
KaraWolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..at that point I'd ask for a list of approved food choices. Jease.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
..at that point I'd ask for a list of approved food choices. Jease.
mandolin2712 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think maybe your child commented earlier
thebadlt ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:08:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paramedic. Got dispatched to a "baby choking". Big deal call. Arrive to find baby was fine. Had to teach mom how to burp her baby. Her THIRD baby.
Got so many stupid calls involving babies, we started calling them BWDs (Babies Without Directions).
After being in EMS since 1981, I'm CONVINCED the human race is devolving.
SEOfficial ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:33:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt once ran to the doc in hurry with her second child. My little cousin had a TicTac in his nose quite deeply. The doctor had to remind her that he can still breathe through his mouth.
The doc lived right next to her house so I think she was really quick to do such things without thinking about it.
RinKuroyami ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:35:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say maybe hospitals should start providing instruction manuals on babies for parents so you'll get less of these calls, but it probably wouldn't help since most people wouldn't read it even if they were given one...
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:22:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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airportluvr416 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:33:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a clash of cultures?
Moomookittycow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:25 on June 22, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
omg! wtf??! lol
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 21:31:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explaining why you have to leave the shower curtains inside the tub during/ after a shower. Repeatedly.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:51:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Found the roofer.
RockLobster89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
hailthesaint ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:09:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Water on the floor?
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does your shower not have a glass-like plastic around it? i havent seen one without it
robbie0630 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The question didn't mention explaining to a patient, it just meant explaining to an adult.
liffey2009 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:01:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom was a nurse in a neo natal unit. Had to convince a young girl who just delivered her baby to please, PLEASE not name her baby girl Placenta even though she thought "it sounded cute".
fourthwyrdsister ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:08:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was your mom successful?
Maximo9000 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:22:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a teenager, my mother took me to a doctor for a checkup and asked him, in complete seriousness, if there was a chance I could "catch the gay" by attending a performing arts summer camp I had wanted to go to. I sat there completely baffled by the question while the doctor calmly explained to her that homosexuality was neither contagious nor a disease. Somehow, despite 20 years of marriage to a doctor, no one had ever explained to her how being gay worked.
[deleted] ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 21:03:33 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am nurse but: took a urinary catheter out of a patient once and handed him a urinal. I called it a urinal and took the lid off. He asked me what it was for. He was 23 year old college student and I pretty much had to explain to him how to piss into a bottle.
JPAchilles ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 21:39:32 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for the mental image of you handing someone a full sized urinal
ezra_sinclair ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:04:53 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's not about strength, it's about proper lifting technique and body mechanics.
beeyonca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lift with your legs, not your back.
rockeh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:58:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume there were a couple of Polish lads present and OP was like "Yes, whenever you need to pee, just have Pawel and Jarek here install it on the nearest wall."
kmturg ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 21:40:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For most people a urinal is made of porcelain and is stuck to a public bathroom wall. Unless he's been hospitalized before or in a medical field, I'd give this a pass.
Portarossa ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 00:37:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd imagine that's pretty high on the list of etiquette rules: when someone hands you a container, make absolutely sure you're supposed to piss in it before you whip your dick out.
tucci007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everybody's calling for the piss bucket
Piss bucket! Piss bucket!
[sung to the tune of Moonshadow]
vape_angel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:07 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You asshole you just ruined moonshadow for me
tucci007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:36 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahahaha
catchy, right?
vape_angel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:40 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, more so than usual for me. Songs get stuck in my head way too easily especially parody ones.
tucci007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:28 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I actually came up with this one many years ago when I was out in a fishing boat with my buddy and his dad. Rather than standing and peeing over the side we'd use the bail bucket which became the musical piss bucket. It was quite a hit that day.
vape_angel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:36:54 on May 3, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That is a hell of a back story for a parody song haha but good job
dude_icus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:33:23 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am a girl, and I know what those things are/look like. I mean, maybe he wouldn't have ever seen one, so I'm glad he had lived such a fortunate life where he had never seen a male loved one hospitalized.
kmturg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:42:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm female also and my brother was in and out of the hospital from the time I was 12 until I was 27. He always had catheters.
dude_icus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your poor brother. :[
kmturg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Believe me the catheter was the least of his worries.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was his first hospitalization, and I explained everything thoroughly because I knew this. I think he was really really embarrassed that I was having to deal with his penis at all.
CassandraVindicated ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:12:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a camper or truck driver.
tadc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:24:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or a native english speaker.
lunabeargp ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:43:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's harder than you think if no one explained it to you. You need to lean way over (if you're on your back) because of gravity. Wouldn't think of it until after.
Rising_Swell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
last time i had a bottle i was stuck in bed, so harder than you think doesnt cut it, starting to piss is extremely fucking difficult
slightlyamused1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:12:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I can see how he wouldn't know. Hearing a nurse say urinal and you're not in the bathroom then they hand you a bucket type thing, maybe you heard them wrong? Makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So I explained that I was taking his catheter out and he would need to pee. Handed him a urinal said, "this is your urinal so you don't have to get out of the bed to go to the bathroom" and removed the lid. Then repeated myself a few times when I got the blank stare. He definitely was old enough, educated enough to know what a urinal was and I felt I explained myself well, which is why the whole situation was so bizarre. He was a sweet guy, bless his heart. And he definitely did not want me anywhere near his penis, and asked me to keep the covers over him when I was removing the catheter. I think the misunderstanding may have stemmed mostly from him being really embarrassed about the whole situation. I was also his age when this happened.
slightlyamused1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:56:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was thinking. Sometimes I feel like I sound dumb in a doctors office/EM situation because I'm nervous and scared and have this in my mind that I don't know what's going on.
lecomish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:51:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mom was a nurse for forty years. One of her favorite stories concerns a gentleman who inserted a suppository up his urethra.
sopwath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. Just... no...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:48 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I loved when I got handed a urinal. Pissed into it and threads of my kidney came out. I hate kidney stones. Still, I'll take A KS x5 over the horrible things I've read.
Eugostodetortas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dear lord
S1lentBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:25 on February 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We just call those urine bottles, never had a patient who was not a kid or heavily demented not get what they are used for.
Yurilica ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:13:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girl believed she could get pregnant from swallowing cum. She was 22.
She wasn't my girlfriend, luckily.
But her boyfriend is in our circle of friends. It's been 6 months and we're still giving him shit about it.
Pete_da_bear ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:21:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient told us: "I need not take any drugs... I eat garlic!"
That was completely true.
Patient ate garlic.
The whole practice smelled like a garlic swamp.
8:30 in the morning.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Pete_da_bear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL garlic is a pretty good blood thinner.
But really, I can't recall why patient presented. May have been somewhat kidney-related and/or something with blood pressure.
ScopeJockey9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:57:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to college-age male friends that the urethra and vagina were separate holes. Neither believed me - insisted they had been "down there" and I was mistaken
SirRumpole ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:08:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a 21yo lady presenting with diabetic ketoacidosis on background of type 1 diabetes. She was lucid on presentation. In my hospital this is an automatic entry to the ICU ($6000 a day to the taxpayers). I was tasked with hooking the drips up (to run fluids, insulin with dextrose), but she threw a tantrum and not wanting the drips. She's competent and could make her decision of course, but everyone knew it was just a tantrum. In the end I had to call her mother to coax her into it and I wasted 1.5 hours just to do that. It took me just 1 minute to put the cannula in.
moesyslak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:32:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My brother (an OD) told my of a patient of his when he was doing his residency in Philadelphia that was having bowel issues and he prescribed him suppositories. Well, within days the patient was back still complaining of stomach pain. My brother and the attending asked if he was taking the prescribed suppositories and he said, "I was, but they are so hard to swallow"
lauren6450 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:45:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad shared an ER room with a man who had been to the ER 52 times in a year for various made up reasons ranging from heart attack to poisoning. When the nurse asked how much he had to drink that night he said he had about 18 Natural Lights, 1 handler of Crown and 2 joints.
Sugarpuddin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, I'm a nurse. I had a 80 year old woman hold up a tub of Corona ointment and ask 'how often can I put this inside my vagina'. After the initial horror wore off I informed her that she could never put it inside of her vagina. When I told the NP she stared at me in horror for a full two minutes before responding.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not if it keeps her supple & moist?
golemsheppard2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had to explain to my traditional Chinese and lesbian colleagues how a condom works. "How does it stay on?" "Do you have to pull it back over the testicles?" "What if I put it on inside out?" "Does it still protect you from HIV if you take it off?"
jamrockredditor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:23:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a patient with an infected wound who, instead of taking his antibiotic capsules by mouth, manually opened each capsule and threw the powder into the wound as a dressing. Really didn't think I needed to tell him that they were meant to be swallowed. My bad apparently
ValaskaReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That... Had to have hurt...
SmugChalk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:35:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"You have to stop taking birth control pills to get pregnant"
Justfurfun4 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:37:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Patient gored thru the eye by a goat.
Goat was in the truck outside with the teenage daughter.
Clap4boobies ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but used to work in a chemo clinic. A patient brought in her phlegm wrapped in a paper towel from the night before and thought I should use it for research. I had to of course explain that I wasn't researching phlegm at the moment but thanks.
subnero ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:21:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Yes, these people are allowed to vote.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:22:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Think they recently have
Brealu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:44:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me but another provider. He had to have a conversation with a higher ranking Officer's wife that light didn't come out the other ear when using an otoscope. Made for a good laugh. Hell, maybe it did shine through on them!
gaqua ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:12:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my cousin was convinced that oral sex was just talking dirty to her boyfriend over the phone.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For a while I thought a blowjob was just that. Blow on it. Until I told one person and they laughed then straightened me out.
fourthwyrdsister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that kinda makes sense...
kyrokip ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:37:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I review x-rays with patients, I am always amazed of the lack of basic anatomy knowledge.
Pt. "Doc what am I looking at ". Me. "That is your spine".
escequi ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:57:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"This hollow part here is your brain"
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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AussieMoisture ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:01:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But the ass was fat.
terrycotta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:55:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was phat!
Citadel_CRA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your buddy hitting you in the head with a weight belt is not an effective means of curing a TIA.
For the curious, two strikes were required to make the symptoms go away.
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More details please.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:55:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Aeleas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:33:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It gets lonely up there in the frozen North.
TimeKillsThem ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:26:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't really know if this would count since I'm the guy that fucked up and no doc was ever involved. After 22 years I found out that the "soap" for your intimate parts (don't really know how to best describe it since English is not my first language) should only be used on the outside of your penis... Not the inside...
Now I'll have to go get a check up just to be sure...
ms-anthrope ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:47:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
how the fuck did you even manage that.
what i picture
GeoleVyi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:25:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My risky click of the day, and it was worth it
BeefJyrkii ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:45:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not an optometrist or anything but I had a 30 minute conversation with a grown ass man about how if someone put their glasses on upside down the world wouldn't be flipped.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thay would be so much FUN though! Tis how I'd wear mine if this were true.
BeefJyrkii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It would be pretty flipping cool
KaraWolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell yeah! I used to hang upside down to make the world upside down as a kid cause someone said it would work. Sadly its harder to do then just hanging.
DeviantShark ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Brother's a somewhat fresh doc at the local hospital
also
and my personal favourite:
Apparently this last sentence also has a standardized version because people complain over unfriendly doctors.
frankitx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:01:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worked in Ob/Gyn for a while, had to explain to a patient that oral contraceptive pills are swallowed, not inserted vaginally. This was after she had been taking them for two years and came in complaining she was pregnant.
xxgeexx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:01:48 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse which is completely irrelevant to this story but anyway not a Doctor, I have two sets of twin brothers, i was with my brother and his girlfriend and we were talking about having children and she said she couldn't believe our mum had another child after how hard it must of been for her to be pregnant for 18 months. Yes she thought twins = an 18 month pregnancy, in retrospect i'm impressed she knew human pregnancy lasted for 9 months and she did the maths correctly.
fratstache ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:19:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but had to explain to the same patient for over a month that her open and rotted wound was because she refused to get her insulin script filled. Good times watching it get bigger and funkier.
VeritasWay ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:26:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This was around the time where Florida had that that bath salts guy eating that other guys' face. I convinced it was a zombie attack. She firmly believed it. Until one day, in a meeting, we were all discussing current events and she brought up that we need to all be careful when goingto Florida since that's where all the zombies are being quarantined. After the meeting I had to explain my innocent joke.
Heartkine ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"My arm's not broken, it's fractured." Whole family present, listened carefully to education on break = fracture.
redstern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of this really dumb kid at my high school that broke his arm, cut his cast off the next day, and insisted it was fine because it didn't hurt and it was just fractured.
Heartkine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I've had one client PULL off a wrist cast, 2 separate times......really messed up that wrist.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this validation. I had to have this argument as a teenager when I broke my arm. My "friend" kept insisting I was being dramatic because it was "only" fractured.
Mind you my other arm was sprained, ribs cracked, and chin busted up. Because while I was riding my horse and he fell on me. But I was being dramatic.
Heartkine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, but when you say ribs cracked....you mean broken....right?
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, lol. It was fun trying to climb out of bed in that condition. Or bathe. Or get dressed. Or cut my food.
str141 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:10:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but my roommate freaked out when I told him my husband had a vasectomy. He was just positive that once a man got that done, he could no longer reach orgasm or cum. I had to google anatomy pictures and explain it to him more then once.
He's 40+
His mind was totally blown. He's still not 100% convinced we are telling the truth. He also doesn't believe us that Narwhals are real. Could be due to the fact that we always mess around with him like family. We had him hunting Snipe for an hour one day. He's that kind of "bonus family" I have to give him credit, he's an amazing sport! We are kind of hard on him sometimes.
rockeh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:25:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I did meet a guy once, he was about 25 or so, who was convinced narwhals were a made-up reddit thing (this was at the height of the narwhal baconing at midnight thing)
abkaplan07 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:17:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but an amusing story nonetheless. Very dear friend of my wife (let's call her Alice) and her soon to be husband came from Evangelical Christian families. Both were in their 30's, virgins, and waited to get married before doing anything below the waist. About a week after the honeymoon, my wife got the following text exchange:
Alice: Got a sec? Got a few questions about...the bedroom. Wife: Sure. Everything OK? Alice: I guess so. I just didn't realize sex is really messy!
This was 5 years ago. Three kids later, still happily married.
riptaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"amusing"
GX578 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:26:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was in residency. A patient in her mid 20s comes in to discuss her periods. Turns out she had been on the depot pro era shot since her teens and had never had a period. She had recently switched to birth control pills and when her period started she literally had no idea what was going on. My friend (a female) literally sat down with her and talked her through using pads/ tampons, getting period cramps, moodiness, etc. At some point she also mentioned that lots of people will treat themselves to comfort foods like chocolate to help get them through their "days". At the end of the visit the patient thanked her for the advice, but said "do I really have to eat chocolate the whole time I'm on my period?"
mreeder15 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:19:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Neither of these are mine, but too good not to pass along.
My brother in law is a primary care doctor. Had a patient that came in with worms. No big deal. He gave her the meds and that should have been that. But it wasn't. Every time this woman came in, she had worms again. This happened two or three times before he figured it out. She had very long fake nails and wouldn't wash her hands after pooping. She literally had worm eggs under her long ass nails she was then feeding back to herself. He got to explain basic hygiene to a grown woman.
Also have a friend that's an obgyn. She had a patient come on with abdominal pain and some gross stuff going on downstairs. Asked the normal questions, when her last period ended etc. Answer was the week before. So she does an exam. She had not one, but THREE tampons up in there from the week before. Needless to say, they had a conversation not only about not sticking more than one up there, but also about taking them out in a timely fashion.
friendlysub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
AAAAH worm eggs in her nails whyyy
mareksoon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:03:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A mother's 13 year old daughter was sexually abused and molested by the mother's husband, the daughter's step-father โฆ for about two years before the daughter said something to stop it. He even confessed both in writing and in a statement to police.
The mother maintains to this day, nearly a year later, her daughter is also at fault; says she should have known better and must have enjoyed it since she allowed it to continue โฆ even suggesting she asked for it because it felt good. Adding: It wasn't real rape. She wasn't hurt.
I tried to explain a child who is victimized by an adult is never at fault. EVEN if the child asks; the adult should know better.
She compared it to children who commit murder, noting the only reason we don't blame the child in sexual abuse cases is because it's sexual and it makes more salacious news to run the adult through the public eye.
Tells the daughter she needs to get over it and forgive him so he can come back home. He's not a bad person. He won't do anything to hurt her.
Also thinks the daughter made it up despite the confession he wrote for her.
entdude ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:17:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me sad.
ihatenachos ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:15:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor ftw, but I had to reply. I was working at a restaurant as a waitress and there are a lot of people in the disabled community who come and eat there. Other waitress would never serve them in case she 'caught' their disabledness. Yes. Most special needs people who would come in would have MLD, SLD, Autism spectrum and a mixture of physical and & cognitive.
She is now around 6 months pregnant and I worry so much about that damn child.
sativasalmon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She just needs to burn a bucket of toenails and pull the tail off a black agama lizard to see which way it points. Kid will be fine!
cookie5427 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:02:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hi, I am your anaesthetist. Yes, I am a real doctor. Yes, anaesthesia is an medical specialty". That and explaining to people, including family, that anaesthetists know a fair bit. We also stay with the patient for the whole case and administer anaesthetic continuously, not "give something to go to sleep and something else to wake up".
beardlessclamlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Get some rest
cookie5427 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I'm good. Thanks.
Plasmabat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's really easy to accidentally kill someone with anaesthetics, right?
cookie5427 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If administered by an untrained person, yes. What is more likely to kill someone who has been given an anaesthetic is the inability to oxygenate them.
terrycotta ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 07:55:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"an medical specialty"? Guess those English scores weren't stellar.
cookie5427 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:09:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Meh, couldn't be bothered editing it. I'm Australian and we always use "an" when we mean "a".
cestlavie922 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:17:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a former sexual health counselor. Some of my favorites include having to explain that:
-Leaving the condom inside of you does NOT decrease the chances of pregnancy.
-It is was your partner, not your pregnancy, that caused you to develop chlamydia.
pockunit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:14:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Yes, you and your boyfriend were both treated for chlamydia. You were both to abstain from sex for 7 days. No, he is not accurate when he tells you that his new infection occurred because he masturbated before the 7 days were up. Oh, honey."
0228 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:40:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was 21. I volunteered as a sexual assault counselor/advocate- work crisis hotline, go to hospital calls to be with victim during rape kit. Basically, I had to explain to a 50 year old woman in a hospital gown, that just because the guy was a complete dickhead the next morning, last night was not rape.
jollyjapcrap ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TwoX would say otherwise...
0228 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:48:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There are more people like you on twox than there are sjw's.
Geigen ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:36:03 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I was talking to a Navy doctor that was in Afghanistan. She would do community service missions where locals could come and receive doctor care to win hearts and minds. She said fairly regularly couples would come to her wondering why they could not conceive a child. It turned out almost every time that they were having only butt sex and didn't know any better. I guess that's what happens when you have a culture that is so strict yet somehow widely accepts men having sex with little boys.
xixoxixa ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The popular belief when I was in Afghanistan was that women were for breeding and boys were for pleasure.
Leohond15 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:39:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's probably the gayest and most disturbing thing I've heard today.
Leohond15 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:39:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit: Men raping little boys
NeverRespondsToInbox ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:34:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister thought you could get pregnant from anal. She is 25
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:21:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Technically, you could get pregnant through anal, but that isn't usually how it happens.
ailorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Do do you live in an area with abstinence only sex education?
Leohond15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You can get pregnant from anal if you're not careful and semen manages to make its way into the vagina. As we all know things can get a little messy down there and...well, sometimes accidents happen. It's very rare but it can happen. But of course no, you can't get pregnant if all the semen stays in the anus.
NeverRespondsToInbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No I'm not American. She is just dumb as fuck.
ailorn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:27:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Usually it's just religious ot southern states that are abstinence only. Northern states are usually better in the us
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theninjaforhire ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:30:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's such a common thing for people to lie about and the test is cheap and easy. Better to just rule it out.
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KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ive had this happen a couple of times. Ranging from on the shots to an IUD. I pretty much always end up pissing in a cup unless its been several months since Id seen my SO and could claim 3 months worth of abstense. And those weren't for ER visits or even anything that ended up needing meds. I was kind of expecting you to point out you're a dude lol I also keep refusing STD checks(thats the only reason they wanted me to come in). Im clean and i have no doubts both of us are faithful and havent played in anyone elses blood recently.
microgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:46 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have no ovaries and have on more than one occasion had to explain why there's no possible way I'm pregnant.
s-cup ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:28:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you're constipated, don't use a fork to dig it out.
No, you can't use a spoon either.
(Fyi: if you're gonna be a fucktard and try and dig your own shit out, don't. It doesn't end well.)
Diatzen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im lost for words
epochalsunfish ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:35:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but work alongside them in the ER. Had a girl in her 20's and her SO attempting to get pregnant with their 3rd child. She went to the restroom immediately after one of these attempts and became concerned when she noticed a white creamy discharge coming from her vagina. I had to listen while the doctor explained that the vagina is not in fact a vacuum and the laws of gravity do apply to semen. The patient came to the ED with her mother, who knew the whole story and did not herself have an explanation for the mysterious goo.
ZetsubouMatt ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:58:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but a story bout my grandma.
So, my grandma is very uptight about money. She'll pinch every penny, save on everything she can and never hand out money (only on rare occasions). We live in Canada, she became a Canadian Citizen years ago and can redeem all the benefits of not paying for most Medical stuff here. She has diabetes already, takes medication for so many problems, but one day she ended up rolling off her bed. She landed wrongly and fucked up her bad something awful. She had tremendous pain in her back for the rest of the week. Didn't tell anyone in my family about it. She progressively gets worse and worse until she couldn't even get out of her bed (Thank god we had a social worker come check up on her 3 days a week), for the next time we heard about her was that she was in the hospital. She had a slipped disc. My grandma literally walked around, did all of her normal daily routines like go to the library, go to the store, go do laundry, etc for a week while is severe pain. All the while thinking she was just sore from falling off the bed. Why did she tell no one about it? Cause she thought if she did, she'd have to pay for it, and thought nothing was wrong, it'd go away eventually.
tl;dr - My grandma is a basic scourge. Fell off the bed, slipped her disc, carried on for a full week like nothing happened. Still crazy loveable gram gram.
Update: She's okay, she can walk fine now, disc removed and repaired. But she still won't say anything about her ever getting into any incidents or things that'll cause her to go back to the doctor.
Trucks_N_Chainsaws ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:50:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IANAD but I work with a guy who developed kidney stones. When we asked him why he was still drinking a 2 liter bottle of Mountain Dew everyday he said, "My Doctor told me the citrus helps break up my kidney stones."
We don't know how he survived adolescents.
pockunit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:20:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how adolescents survive adolescence
Trucks_N_Chainsaws ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Were you around in the '80s too?
pockunit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Around, over, under, beside.
Apple_sunday ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:57:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some one thought a stool softener was a muscle relaxer.
PlumbumGus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No, no- it's clearly a cushion one applies to a stool for butt comfort purposes.
xyzen420 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:17:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Argued with a guy for longer than I would like to admit about whether or not inanimate objects have feelings.
Philanthropiss ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:57:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I have a story that happened to me last year.
So I am an OSHA consultant and on a visit I'm talking with the owner of a lumberyard/sawmill. One of his employees comes up while I'm doing the walk-around with the owner and the guy goes " Hey boss, I got to go home for a bit because I pooped my pants"
The owner just looked at me and then says to his employee "Okay, see you a bit later"
Then acted like nothing was weird. I immediately asked him about if he had a bathroom nearby(OSHA has standards on water closets aka bathrooms) and he said yes it's right there. Which was directly next to where the pooped my pants guy was working.
All in all I felt weird.
Saviourality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the worker trying to be funny or get off work early.
Metalbass5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:04:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a tradesperson, honestly he likely wasn't kidding. A lot of guys on site eat garbage food, and drink fucktons of coffee, often out of necessity (site location, deadlines, skipped breaks, etc.). Combine that with a night of drinking, a drug problem, or just crazy long hours, and your body can kind of give up on you. I have seen more than one guy go home because he shit himself.
Hell, I have an intestinal condition so I've been pretty close, myself. Especially when it hits suddenly and I'm 10 floors up on a mast climber.
maurisa123 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:08:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse and we have many frequent fliers who come in with COPD all the time. They're always begging to have a smoke and itching to go home to have a smoke. One was discharged the other day and stated he wasn't sure if he'd be able to purchase his $4 steroid prescription. I explained to him it was cheaper than a pack of cigarettes, which is part of his issue. Not all people with COPD are like this and manage their disease just fine at home. Even those that do come in are now non-smokers and are well aware of the connection between smoking and exacerbations.
WangBaDan1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:30:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient with chronic lung disease due to smoking who's lungs got so bad that he ended up needing to wear oxygen constantly at home. One day while I'm in the medical ICU we were being transferred a patient from an outside facility who weren't capable of handling a burn patient. Apparently, this man couldn't be bothered to quit smoking so while he had oxygen going he decided to smoke a cigarette with the comically obvious result of him basically lighting his face on fire and almost blowing up his house due to it being connected to the oxygen tank and so I had to have the conversation "please try not to use a lighter or smoke a cigarette near your oxygen tank or when you're smoking a cigarette"...
robercha001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:33:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but had a coworker who was in his last year of pre med. We were sitting around the office talking about our age, and my supervisor notes that he is 26. Pre med student turns to him and straight faced says "Did you know all the cells in your body are done replicating after 25?" I asked him if he meant the brain, as it ends development in males around that time. He still believes, to this day despite my attempts, that your cells no longer reproduce after 25.
EarthsFinePrint ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:38:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain what a syringe was to 2 pharmacists at a Target....
vexor187 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:54:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER provider here, I can't even pick one moment out since there seems to be at least or more day. One thing I just don't understand is when I explain how STD transmission works, and the patient refuses to understand that the spouse has been stepping out on them. Can't tell if they're in denial or just not understanding.
motheroffurbabies ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:08:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a patient who gargled hydrogen peroxide because he thought that it would make his sore throat feel better. I was seeing him because his sore throat was suddenly worse.
sativasalmon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Bad call but in a very small percentage of water maybe it worked on a lodged parasite for one or two people in Tanzania or something. I've had a few people reccomend this to me!?
However, once had a throat infection from hell for over a month. Hardcore antibiotics, and various meds did nothing. Last resort I followed ancient wisdom of one of the first "doctors" Hippocrates. Apple cider vinegar gargled fixed me up in a day or two. Mentioned it to my doctor who says "Yes that can be an effective treatment!" Thanks a lot Doc for letting me know while I nearly died for a month. Makes one wonder if distrust of the medical establishment is bolstered by the odd effective homeopathic or natural treatment?
oOmilkshakeOo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is this bad for you? My mother would make all of us do that when we had sore throats.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a terrible idea.
allyourbase51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure that it would draw moisture out of your throat, and make it very dry, which would probably make a sore throat even more sore.
Awesomanti ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:26:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Babies can't die right?"
halfginger16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:30:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In skyrim they can't.
MikeyCed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:41:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me but my friend had to explain to a parent why they shouldn't do xrays for the sniffles
bhampson ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:51:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had an 80 year old man that wanted Viagra. Me, being a responsible physician, tried to inquire if his heart was healthy enough for sex. His response "my wife and I don't have sex any more. Masturabating daily makes it so I don't wake up in the middle of the night to pee." I didn't know how how to respond so I wrote the prescription.
Janno1987 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that my sister (who was an A&E doctor) told me that she once had an elderly gentlemen come into the Emergency Department with a profusely bleeding nose.
On assessing him, he informed her that he didn't know why his nose was bleeding.
After inspecting his nose, it was revealed that he had a chronic nose-picking habit and had struck gold by picking away an old scab inside his nose.
My sister was speechless......
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:35:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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fourthwyrdsister ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:44:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Cringing so hard right now.
Degru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:08:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I assume some anesthetic was used, otherwise it wouldn't be nearly as popular.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
....this sounds like it could work IN THEORY, and only with a plastic surgeon and a dick doc....
CelticRain ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:28:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a Doctor but once called a 50+ year old married man with at least one child (a daugter) that the vagina is not where women urinate from. He was making anal sex jokes, implying someone else was gay and thinking he was hilarious. He wasn't happy when I quickly and not very politely corrected him that he would not be having sex with a woman's 'pee hole'. He doesn't like medry much. I can't imagine why not.
seiyonoryuu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:35:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's with all the folks in this thread giving random-ass answers not related to the prompt?
ihateflyingthings ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They read the post for too long and forget what the original question was, the more people do it, the more it grows.
andygchicago ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:42:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I removed an ingrown toenail from a patient. He asked me if he can have sex. I didn't see a problem with the request. In the followup appointment, his ingrown nail had a raging infection. I cultured it, and it came back as gonococcal. Apparently, when has asked about having sex, he meant with his toe. His wife was cheating on him.
oolivero45 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:55:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbor is a doctor, and she once had to explain to a 37-year-old man that the reason he got drunk so often was because he drank a lot of beer. Poor guy didn't know alcohol is what makes you drunk...
Firesphere ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:51:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
... what? As in... WHAT?!
brsboarder2 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:47:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vaccines save lives
Dyspaereunia ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:05:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a patient in the ED that came in for what he thought was stroke like symptoms. His symptom was he had numbness and tingling to all of his fingers. In the process of asking him what happened he proceded to tell me the day before he tried to get the last drop of hersheys chocolate syrup, he inhaled deeply and aspirated a tiny bit. From there he postulated that the numbness to his fingers a day later was him having a stroke. Of course he had no abnormalities on exam. He didn't have a stroke.
khondrych ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
M1 here. Did the aspiration itself cause the numbness?
Dyspaereunia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe if he hyperventilated. But it was 24hrs later so I doubt it.
khondrych ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:42:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OK word that's what I thought.
naunga ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:56:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I just had to explain to a woman on Facebook that no one can force you to get a Pap smear, and that you have to consent to everything a doctor does to you.
Nysoz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:12:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Prescribed someone an inhaler once. They came back saying that it wasn't helping. Asked them to show me how they were using it. They proceeded to spray the inhaler on their neck like perfume.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I died.
SolarBear ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:36:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a doctor but my sister-in-law, as a nutritionist, regularly needs to explain to young parents that giving fruit juice to their kids is good but that, no, Kool-Aid and Tang are NOT fruit juices. The confusion on their face is both sad and priceless, or so I'm told.
riptaway ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not really. Fruit juices have tons of sugar
Sierra_Oscar_Lima ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Like the people giving their toddlers soda. :/
riptaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hell, worse. Lots of fruit juices have more sugar than soda. Sunny delight has significantly more sugar than soda and is marketed exclusively towards kids
megakid ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:34:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If you continue to smoke weed you will continue to have psychotic episodes.
Yes it still counts if someone else buys the weed.
Metalbass5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pre-existing psychotic condition, I'm assuming?
moralmorchella ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:01:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a 7 year old get brought in to the ED by her parents or parent (do not remember) for yelling and telling them she was going to kill them. I just remember thinking "if I had a dollar for everytime my daughter screamed she was going to murder me...well I would have at least a 100 dollars." Not sure what they will do when puberty strikes.
perplherpnderp ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:43:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a doctor, but I'm a pharmacy tech and I worked with a pharmacist that told me a story about a patient who accidentally got one of those desiccants in their med bottle that said "DO NOT EAT". So he said the patient came back to him telling him they were starving and said, "it's been like 4 days and I don't know how much longer I can last! Can I really not eat until the medication is done?"
iLickBloodAnal ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:06:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay so when i was little i had the most bad ass, van drivin, construction workin, beer drinkin, tobacco chewin, spittoon spittin, grandfather ya ever done met. Anyway he ended up with alot of medical issues had a pace maker and was on oxygen what have you. I remember the day he got put on oxygen the doctor walked in and gave hi. His tank and hose and after about 5 minutes he decides "i need a dag gon cigaretter" and starts smoking in the hospital. Moments after the doctor comes in and says "sir you cant smoke in here" my grandfather gladly replies "wont you let me die in piece i cant even breathe correctly now im smoking wrong too?" In which the doctor replies "sir you cant smoke in a hospital anymore its not sanitary and besides that your oxygen tank could explode when you light one and sir arent you suppose to stop smoking? Thats whats landed you here" i think the explosion part freaked him out because he gave my dad the cigarette who put it out just to watch him pull a can of dip outta his back pocket and spit on the floor saying "i remember the good ol days where i could smoke where ever the fuck i wanted, am i free to go? And for your information i did quit.. just now didnt ya see me?" God i miss that old man. Didnt listen to no body.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At least he stopped the hot burning gonna cause an explosion part of the habit? This made me lol.
Emlym ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:39:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her: clutches chest I'm having a heart attack! Me: No, you're not having a heart attack, your boyfriend broke up with you Her: My heart hurts, he broke my heart, I think I need a new heart! Me: .......okay, drink some water
Proceeds to have lengthy conversation about where feelings come from.
Plasmabat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Feelings do have physical effects on the body though.
Emlym ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:02:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Certainly, but she thought her actual heart was broken because of the phrase "he broke my heart".
KenzieKitty21 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:58:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain that the 13.1 and 26.2 bumper stickers on cars were in fact NOT radio stations, but that they were representing that people have completed half marathons or full marathons. She's a 46 year old woman and her reasoning was, "There's no way that that many people have run the same number of miles". Edit: not a doctor but, I couldn't resist sharing her stupidity.
MoJo81 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:59:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you should rephrase the statement "Doctors of Reddit" to just "Hey folks does anyone know a medical story or can you make one up"
Saltydog20 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those post deserves an upvote.
Legeto ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:47:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When I was a kid I Had a doctor tell me my allergy rash (I was scratching the crap outta it and had nail marks) was scabies. This dude was dead set on it and wanted me to stay at the hospital. We just wanted normal allergy medicine and that pink cream you put on rashes to make it less itchy my mom insisted it was just allergies. He replied with " I will not let a women tell me how to do my job!" This was in the late 90s and on a military base. We ended up walking out on him and demanding a different doctor.
LadyLypiphera ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:22:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grew up a military brat, and was horrified by this story, until I got to "military base". My reaction: "Oh, Tricare. Of course."
Legeto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yea tricare sucks. While I was in the military I had a stomach ulcer. My doctor refused to diagnose me for it. I had stomach pains for like 2 months and she told me to suck it up and gave me anti acids. One point even said it was gal bladder stones and I'd have to live with it. I knew straight up it was an ulcer and she just said I webMD the problem into my head. I eventually had the commander overhear my problem and he pulled some strings to get me to talk to another doctor and sure enough, he diagnosed me with an ulcer and my pain was gone within like two weeks.
Gluvin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:51:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Asking the father if he was circumcised or not and if they wanted baby to match daddy. Neither one knew the status of daddy's foreskin. OB had to look herself to tell them.
Lurlur ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 01:47:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Match daddy" is the most horrific thing I've read today.
Gluvin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:40:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I agree
Wiiplay123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm imatchining a ddlg copypasta involving pyromaniacs, with LOTS of emoji...
hockeypup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:29:53 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sadly, one of the main reasons baby boys are circumcised these days is because the dad is.
UndeadKitten ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:50:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine got pregnant at 15. We were discussing her impending motherhood and her boyfriend was talking about how they were excited to find out if it was a boy or girl. Somehow circumcision came up and when asked if they were going to have the baby done...
Mom: No, there's really no reason to do it. If there's an issue it can be fixed later in life.
Dad: Yes we are! Its cleaner!
Mom: No its not, you gotta wash a dick no matter what! Besides its pointless and painful.
Dad: Well i say we are, if it was good enough for me its good enough for my son.
Mom: odd look Babe, you aren't circumcised!
They argued about this for maybe ten minutes, then a mutual friend went to the bathroom to check if he had a foreskin. He did. Turns out none of his brothers were circumcised because Grandma thinks its mean to do to a little baby and that they could decide for themselves as adults.
They had a girl. (And are married now with a few more kids.)
Gluvin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe this is one of those things that is more common than we would like to think
UndeadKitten ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:49:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The weird thing is, he had to have been moving his foreskin because she said he was always clean down there!
I blame it on him being a football player and having been dropped on his heads earlier that year.
JagoKestral ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:05:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it's not like they teach you about it in school.
Metalbass5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This scares me. If you can't figure out reproductive anatomy and circumcision after Canadian public school sex ed. classes, you're an idiot. I had to take 3 different semesters of sex ed. classes throughout my schooling. One in grade 5, one in grade 9, and one in grade 12.
JagoKestral ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:29:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In America, I only ever took 1 Sex Ed. class, and it wasn't even a full semester of Sex Ed., it was just part of the class. Granted, the teacher was a brutally honest one who would answer any question honestly and openly (And accurately), but circumcision wasn't something that was ever touched upon (Or asked of the teacher).
I didn't know the difference until I discovered porn, honestly.
Metalbass5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeesh. That's unfortunate. Thank the universe for google, right?
GIS-Rockstar ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:56:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Don't tell me you're one of those people that believes in dinosaurs."
...Whahhhhaaaaaat?!
Thylatron ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:44:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All I can imagine is a Doctor asking Dinosaur related questions to patients.
"Were there any mass extinctions between your periods?"
"Are you getting your proto-feathers in yet?"
"How many eggs did you lay in your last clutch?"
nagol93 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:52:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is turning the tables but:
My friend ate an entire Reaper Pepper once (Its genetically engineered to be the hottest pepper on earth). Shortly after he wosnt looking too good: extremely pale, couldnt stand, barely awake.
We took him to the ER and the nurse said this: "He ate a pepper and he needs a doctor??!?? Get out of here kids, I eat spicy food all the time. Your friend will be fine"
Then the nurse behind the counter said: "Did you say whole Reaper Pepper?!? Dont lessen to her. Your friend need a doctor ASAP. Let me find one."
Then that nurse lectured the other nurse on that a Reaper Pepper isnt the same as 'spicy food'.
ashmez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was the outcome after? What did the doctor do for your friend?
nagol93 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:01:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Took an IV with lots of drugs in it and had his stomach pumped.
His heart rate was 60 and white blood cell count was EXTREMELY high. If he went to sleep there was a very high chance he would slip into a coma.
Luckily he made a full recovery.
ashmez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy cow. A hot pepper can cause all that to happen? I love spicy food, as in give me all the spicy things. But...yikes!!
nagol93 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:53:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It measures 2.2 million Scoville Heat Units, compared to the jalapeno at 1,000-20,000 Scoville Heat Units. I believe it was 'invented' to be a hot sauce ingredient.
Moral of the story: Do NOT eat a whole Reaper Pepper.
StabbyPants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
shit... i got some 2am reserve (so named for being 2m scoville) and it says on the bottle that it's no longer hot sauce. it's something you add to a 2 gal batch of chili
ashmez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it bad that I am still tempted to try :P
Maybe not a whole pepper....
nagol93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will give you $10 if you eat 5
ashmez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And a few zeros and we'll talk :P Also I don't even think those peppers exist where I live :P
nagol93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So, $10 for 500 peppers?
ashmez ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:31:22 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
:p
wowsuchtitan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like most white people after they've eaten something mildly spicy
nagol93 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:22:18 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Umm... guess again. We can drink Dr.Pepper just fine.
wowsuchtitan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:09:33 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quality haha
atrainmadbrit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:32 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've obviously never met the british, spicy curries* are a part of a typical Englishman's diet
*before you go saying they can't be that spicy look up dishes like Madrass, Bhuna, Vindaloo, Tindaloo, the list goes on for miles
wowsuchtitan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:01 on May 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am British, our curries are weak as fuck. To get a decent Tindaloo you have to make it yourself :(
Arfman21 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:00:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but when I worked in a hotel, I had to tell someone on more than one occasion that smoking weed/meth does indeed violate the nonsmoking policy.
Their argument was that they weren't smoking cigarettes so it would be fine.
violetmemphisblue ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:07:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I work at a library where a lot of people come to get medical questions answered (I'm in the US, so health insurance is a thing)
Diatzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is something i can believe. when i was at high school (uk) we were never did sex ed and no teacher actually explained you can be any age to get condoms. Luckily most of us were smart enough to know without being told.
ChronicDouche ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:46:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can't conceive. Turns out he was copulating with her umbilicus because "that's right in front of where the baby goes"
Track171 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This made me giggle. I hope you didn't correct him.
gimmealldemcats ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:58:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Ma'am...that was not a shart...you just had a baby."
guinader ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:26:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sis caught a baby once when a lady announced she couldn't hold her poop any longer and was going to poop right in the middle of the floor. I don't know many details.
Frinnothy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:21:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but work in healthcare.
Patient comes in with an anaphylactic reaction after eating peanut butter. The patient has a known allergy to peanuts. It wasn't the first time either. They had to explain that peanut butter is infact peanuts and to stop ingesting it.
Cyber_Connor ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:03:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I had to explain to my ex what her clitoris, urethra and vagina were.
Ps apparently according to the comments her being Chinese is a major factor in this
LDawg618 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:46:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've had two different doctors, 2,000 miles apart, tell me the same story: They asked their patient if they were sexually active, and the patient said "no." The doctor then asked when the last time they had sex was, and the answer was "yesterday." I really believe that they're both true stories and not jokes and I would bet that many doctors have the same story. There are so many dumb people these days. TLDR: Unless you have sex on the way to the doctor's office, you are not sexually active.
WeeWooBooBooBusEMT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:09:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No, doctor, I'm not sexually active. I just lay there and he does all the moving."
LDawg618 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ahh that's a good one!
DCComicsRebirth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:55:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT Stories that reminds me of Dr House's visit to ER.
Burgle0531 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:29:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but during her first pregnancy, my wife of two years went to her OB/GYN worried that she might have a UTI. The doctor had to explain to her that when she wipe her ass that she wipes from the front to the back, not the back to the front. Apparently, this is something that I had never noticed about her wiping habits. She was completely unaware that she was doing anything wrong.
Qwertyowl ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:31:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been able to wipe that way even as a small child.
Never had a uti from dragging shit paper through my vagina..
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's so strange. I don't remember anyone telling my how to wipe after I pee. It's just something that clicked in my brain.
ReddenedEarth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:12:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I work with patients in hospitals- had one who was in the ER for cardiac issues complaining that they wouldn't let him get McDonald's from across the street for lunch since he was hungry during the wait for test results.
GoldenNugget235 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:55:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a discussion regarding a patient's allergy to water.
FatPaco ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:19:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uuggghhhh my brother in law thinks he's allergic to water. He gets physically ill--as in throwing up and terrible stomach pains-- when he drinks anything other than sweet tea (!?!?!?) or mountain dew. Even worse... My sister corroborates his story.
duetmasaki ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:38:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How weird that there is water in the sweet tea, but he doesn't react to that.
FortunateKitsune ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Admittedly, that's a real and horrible thing that means you're allergic to your own sweat, among other things.
mfchipley ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:36:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The "no, our friend isn't showing at 6 weeks pregnant, she's just fat" conversation with my adult, married friend.
Disulfidebond007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:56:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a patient in ER who didn't understand why she was pregnant, yes she stopped taking birth control and stated "He only came in me a few times."
Incarnate007 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:04:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Flu vaccines don't cause the flu. Today. She was 50+ years old, and college educated.
microgoddess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't even tell you how many people I've had this conversation with...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:05:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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guinader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is an old joke about it.
crazymcninja ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:10:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Some of these stories make me proud that my parents were never strongly anti-science when I was growing up - at worst my mom (a nutritionist) only gave us kids skim milk because prevailing science at the time (early 90's) said skim milk was the best and everything else was shit. She hates herself for it now considering how stupid the logic was, but unfortunately she's gotten a lot more "anti-vaccine" which makes me a bit sad.
BetaHat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Today I learned that people are way dumber than I ever thought they could be.
Diatzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard of kevin then?
BetaHat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Kevin Diatzen, is that you?
Diatzen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd kinda be worried if i was kevin to be fair.
ihateflyingthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I still wonder where in the hell he got those crayons.
Diatzen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
part of me thinks he sticks them up his nose before school. the other half thinks he ... well take a guess where he might stick them
KaemosFiveZero ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my friend is a lab tech, and he often processes urine sample cultures to figure out the origin of urinary tract infections.
He says the most common reason female samples he tests come back positive is because of fecal matter.
He then has to inform the doc to have the conversation with his patients. Adult, grown ass women who are wiping the wrong way after they shit.
mrshestia ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:38:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just found out I'd been doing this wrong through another comment on this thread... To be fair, if your parents teach you wrong, who else is going to catch it but the doctor? Or, in my case, Reddit :(
jordantran13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:35:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not me but someone I worked with during one of my rotations as an ultrasound tech. An older man was complaining about a mass in his neck. He then grabbed his throats and said "Yeah, there's this tube like thing right in the middle of my neck!" He grabbed his trachea....
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:21:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I had inform more than once to a dear friend of mine that, no, you do not get pregnant from eating a raw chicken's egg. And following her reasoning, there is no protein in said egg that will get you pregnant.
She was a Jehova's Witness but she knew the basic sex ed. So, I want to think she wasn't educated fully on some matters, or had just conjured up some misguided ideas.
LangdonEdward ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:11:39 on January 30, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last year during my internship i was doing my rounds in the orthopedics floor and a nurse rush to me and tells me that a patient fell when he was trying to stand up (he was waiting for a left hip replacement surgery), when i asked the patient why did he do that, he told me he forgot about his broken hip. BTW when he fell he broke his right hip.
1-iota ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:10 on March 20, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed and shortly felt bad afterwards because that is just unfortunate.
Tim_Brady12 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:44:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I like the part when the stupid people made me feel better about myself.
lowbrassballs ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:48:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All these comments are about the catastrophic lack of understanding of sex, reproduction and communicable diseases. Next is shit knowledge about basic health maintenance - cardio or dental. This is why we need universal healthcare and NO FUCKING RELIGION IN EDUCATION. Jesus isn't unherpes anyone's dick, so his preferences on sex ed are irrelevant.
Ignorance is killing people and torturing them slowly.
WalrusBacon666 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a mumble server with this guy who was in school and was shadowing someone. He was talking about this one guy who came in who was severely dehydrated. They asked him how often he drinks water and he said "never." They ask him if he drinks water at all and he says "no. I only ever drink soda and beer."
This guy was about 40 and didn't understand he needed to drink water. He had been living like this for years and everyone was puzzled how he was still alive.
Rising_Swell ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:24:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There is water in soda and beer, so it's survivable.
Note that i am NOT saying its good, in any way, just survivable
LuckyShake ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:03:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok so not me, but my good friend works at Woman's and Babies. A woman's hospital in Lancaster county Pennsylvania. Good old Amish country. She was doing her internship when a young Amish couple who was having trouble conceiving came in. All of their testing came back normal and fertile. However... her hymen was still intact. So clearly there were a few questions. Turns out he had been fucking her in the butt the whole time! In Amish culture sex is never, ever, ever, spoken about, so neither of them really had any idea what they were supposed to do. Luck guy, poor girl. After a brief tutorial they were sent home to try for real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a Darwin award like this
TaedW ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:15:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my friend years back was complaining of this pain for months. He was showing anyone who would listen that whenever he held a heavy book, twisted his arm around, flipped it behind his back, and then leaned over in this weird way, it would hurt. It was just this weird contortion. Even though it's the punch line to a joke, I said, "Well, don't do that, then." He ignored me, and eventually a mutual friend convinced him to go to a doctor. As we all suspected, the doctor told him, "Well, stop doing that."
ocelotinvader ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:38:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to tell an adult to take the rest of the knives out of their walls. They were using them to hang sheets. Stepped on a sheet, knife hit head, freaked out and called 911. They weren't even bleeding, just upset that a knife magically fell from the sky.
shleybee13 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:51:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical student (pharmacy technician at the time): I had to explain what a milliliter was to a patient. He was a middle age man with children. I'm guessing he went with the "take a swig" method when his kids had to take medication?
stuffdoc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:54:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pharmacist story. Lady came in for a prescription for her 10 year old with bronchitis for some cough syrup with codeine. She comes in 4 days later saying it's not helping her child's cough. After questioning, she revealed that she was taking the medicine because the label said "Take 1 teaspoon"
RinKuroyami ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:48:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if codeine abuse or just stupid...
stuffdoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just stupid. She was also taking the kids antibiotic
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So magically she's taking her kids pain meds and what, wanted more?
stuffdoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not pain meds, strong cough syrup. She was also taking the kids antibiotic
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Codeine is a painkiller and win taken in large amounts will get you high. I do wonder how some people manage to survive.
stuffdoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:03 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was prescribed for cough. Yes it is a morphine analog, think you are modeling the point of the story.
I've dealt with sneaky/desperate addicts enough to know this was not the case in this situation
Corey307 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:27 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah once you said she was taking the antibiotic too she's just an idiot.
stuffdoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not pain meds, strong cough syrup. She was also taking the kids antibiotic
wh1sper ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:59:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT minimal understanding of replies or basic grammar.
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 20:54:31 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ohyaycanadaeh ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:20:17 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You've been told a very, very old joke. Most people take the bait hook, line, and sinker though so don't feel too bad.
Godzillacon3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:19:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was the joke?
ohyaycanadaeh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:41 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was a joke about a couple trying to get pregnant and, upon visiting a doctor, realize that the man has been trying to impregnate the woman via her belly button.
The region/religion/race/decade of said couple is almost always different to showcase who stupid or naive a certain group is. Like, it is funny to someone the first time they hear it but once you've heard it from 18 different people claiming to have "just had these patients in", you just start rolling your eyes. Same with the gerbil story, the semen pumped out of stomach story, and the starburst story.
darktask ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:37 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If she was letting her husband screw her belly button I don't think she knew anything about sex - including faking.
theamazingronathon ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:27:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but still have those conversations. I work for a public high school. We wrote a parking ticket for a student who was parked in the wrong parking lot. Instead of being in the student lot (which she didn't have a permit to park in), she parked in a staff lot, and worse, an administration space which was clearly labeled "RESERVED" in white letters almost 1 foot high. Then, at the end of the day her car wouldn't start, and her dad came to look at it. I went out to meet him and see if he needed a tow or jump or anything. He asked me why she got ticketed. I explained that she doesn't have a parking permit, and he argued "yes she does!" Pointing to the permit hanging from her rearview mirror. The permit very clearly labeled as being for the local vo-tech. He says incredulously, "so, what? She has to buy one for here, too?!?" Uh... Yes? They're two different places. Why would we honor their parking permit?
Then I explained to him that even if she had a permit, she still wouldn't be allowed to park in an administration space. He scoffed and said, "why not? It says reserved!" While pointing to the word painted on the asphalt.
I couldn't help myself. I laughed out loud, and said, "not for her!" Then had to go on to explain to him why his 16 year old daughter didn't get a special parking space specifically assigned to her, 20 feet away from the front door of the building. He had no clue that a "reserved" sign means "don't use this, it's not for you.
We always say teenage brains don't work function properly because they're not fill developed, but I meet parents every day who destroy my faith in humanity.
chemistrysquirrel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:14:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, in the dad's defense, at least he actually read the word.
What sort of doctor are you? :)
wink
blowyournipsoff ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:12:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
22 year old female. Desperately trying for a baby for nearly a year with no success. Then she asks for something for the pain. Her butt was hurting from all the sex.
YataBLS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not only surprised by her, but was her couple/bf a dumb guy too? Or was he just happy with anal.
EtienneLantier ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:06:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He needed something for the pain in his face from smiling ear to ear all day
blowyournipsoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, he definitely knew what he was doing. I'm guessing he didn't want a kid as much as she did.
thewhitewalrus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:32:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a story from my wife's intern year of residency: She had a 450 lb patient who was admitted for a prosthetic joint infection where they had to remove her prosthetic knee. She was bed bound and unable to walk during her hospital stay. Based on nutritional recommendations, my wife placed her on a 1200 calorie diabetic diet. However, every morning her blood sugar was some how in the 400's (normal is blood sugar is < 100). After a couple of weeks of increasing her insulin to crazy levels, they called the cafeteria to find out what she was ordering and they reported she was only ordering cakes to fulfill her 1200 calories. She was pretty mad and was throwing things when they told her she had to stop only eating cakes.
dutchie_is_here ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:04:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mum used to be a nurse. They once had a lady come in who was completely orange, head to toe. Of course they did some tests and asked about her diet. She said she ate like any other person. She just had three liters of tomato soup a day.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Was that really why she was orange???
dutchie_is_here ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:44:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a story my mum loves to tell al parties and I believe that was why, yes! apparently because tomatoes contain a lot of carrotene, like carrots
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yikes. Sounds like a party trick....
why are you orange???
I eat all my tomato soup!!
Do you know if it caused any other problems besides skin color?
dutchie_is_here ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure, but I don't think do!
vestegaard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:47 on July 2, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guess she never watched the magic school bus episode where Arnold turned orange
dragoongirl1990 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:22:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have a reverse for you. I once had to explain to an asshat doctor that the same cold sore can infect you in multiple places and in the same place again if it is exposed to it again. He knew they were the herpes virus type 1 but he was adamant that you couldn't spread the virus like that. Even though you can spread it to yourself.
babylina ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:23:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
my coworker had a UTI while on a cruise and told me that the doctor explained to her it was because she has to wipe from front to back... NOT back to front... she's almost 18 years old and didn't know to wipe from front to back
trulyconfusing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:37:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your coworker isn't the only one. My former roommate (22) also didn't know that she had to or how to wipe front to back. My other roommates had to teach her/remind her...twice. She was something else.
mountainsprouts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My mom never taught me and my 2 sisters that. Had to learn it from one of them.
boofus0618 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a nurse and it's astounding how many adults don't know this.
Kurlysoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:41:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god the UTI's...
powderitis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:46:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Vodka isn't appropriate to use as a substitute for toothpaste when brushing.
koinu-chan_love ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:02:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well obviously. Kesha said to use Jack Daniels, which is whiskey.
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why not? It disinfects !
beeyonca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes but can you use it for pulling?
powderitis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does pulling from the bottle count? Then yes
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:54:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I've had a conversation with an adult before.
It was weird as hell. I can do an AMA if you want.
Saviourality ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:03:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please do. I have many questions about adults.
apley ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:26:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Am a registered massage therapist /B.Kin. I treat mostly workers comp/car accidents and lots of health conditions (lymphedema, stroke, etc). I get a lot of people who clearly have no idea about anatomy/physiology (a lot of people talk about their rotor cup and trapezoid mucle) but the worst was a lady who was certain there were no muscles in her butt and had no idea why I would want to relieve tension there. She was certain her whole butt was made of fat.
Also, had a client from another country who was convinced I could somehow give her a breast lift with massage. Still not sure what she expected, thought it was a translation issue, but nope. She wanted a breast lift. With massage. (The reason most people's breasts sag is due to ligament stretch over time and besides surgery there's not a lot you can do)
omg_its_ica ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:46:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I used to work as a receptionist in urgent care. Dealt with lots of super fun stuff but one really idiotic incident sticks out.
Had a patient (man probably in his 60's) come in on a Sunday afternoon, we didn't have any other patients at the moment. He comes up to my desk, looks me straight in the eye, and tells me he's pretty sure he's having a stroke. So I call up an MA and the doctor, who immediately take him to a room; a few minutes later the MA comes back and tells me to call an ambulance, because the guy is in fact having a stroke and needs to go to the hospital, since we can't do a whole lot for him at urgent care. I do that, ambulance comes, and the whole time the guy is just ranting about how he doesn't want to go to the hospital because there's only one neurologist there and he hates her and he'd rather die, etc etc etc. But he went. At this point his truck was still in the urgent care parking lot and I could see it from my desk.
About an hour, hour and a half maybe, after all this, a cab pulls up, someone gets out and gets in the stroke guy's truck. I went over to the window to look and it was actually the guy who we'd sent to the ER. Who was having a stroke. Getting in his car and driving away. I let the MA's and doc know and they contacted the hospital to see what happened. Apparently he got there, basically told anyone who would listen to fuck off and let him die, then signed himself out AMA. And then came back to the urgent care to get his truck and drive himself home while having a stroke. Just lovely.
Littlebear333 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:33:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh well I'm not a doctor but I'd have to say the story on a local news stations about a local man who was bitten by a venomous snake..twice..once on each leg..while he was in the lake. His girlfriend urged him to go to the hospital but he refused because he couldn't afford the bill. He didn't know what kind of snake it was. It was a cottonmouth. The only kind of venomous water snake we have.
The irony is that he couldn't afford not to go to the hospital as he a slowly died over the next day.
cookie5427 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:44:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I treated a youth who saw a stick on the ground that he thought was a snake. It was a snake and he was bitten. He then proceeded to pick it up again. And receive a second bite. This was in Tasmania. All of the three species of snakes in Tasmania are venomous. Fortunately he was bitten by a white-lipped snake and their short fangs are not very effective at injecting much in the way of venom.
MikeAppleTree ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:43:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin works as a doctor in emergency. A young guy came in with ulcers all over his penis, he was convinced he had an sti. They tested him and he was clean. Turns out he was shredding himself masturbating multiple times a day. They got a nurse to "educate" him and to tell him to take it easy on himself. Not sure if he was a redditor.
1curlygurl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:45:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My temperature is 98. But normally my temperature is 97 so I have a fever.
No. You don't. (Except my half of this conversation only ever occurs in my head because saying it out loud is a waste of my breath. I learned that years ago. )
beardlessclamlover ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:09:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Treatment of choice... slap up side the head
Daza92 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:09:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You know that classic house scene where the women uses her inhalers like a perfume and sprays it around her neck? Had a patient like that on a GP rotation. Requires so much tact and restraint when explaining why that's completely wrong.
cbcfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Does this mean there's a problem with the way the product is explained at the initial consult? Seiously not everyone has had an asthmatic in one's life to make this self evident. Yes I know it's obvious to us who have seen it in action.
Daza92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Quite possibly. Somewhere down the line the instructions were lost in translation. Without knowing more about the initial consult can't really say who is more at fault. But it goes to show how important checking medicine compliance is when conditions fail to improve. And how important effective communication is.
Elliotm77 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:38:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I used to work in the ER. I know of a patient that called an ambulance just to come in and make a collect phone call. Ambulance brought them in and we discharged them immediately without letting them use the phone.
kwikthroabomb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that a $2000 phone call or something?
Elliotm77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably.
ChaplnGrillSgt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ER Nurse. I had to explain to a pregnant 32 year old female what an OB/Gyn was....
HelloGoodbyeBlueSky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Poor woman :(
tongster789 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I knew went to the doctor for having snot / boogers in their nose
HenryMillford ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:38:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to advise a patient not to use javex to try and bleach his teeth at home.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:14:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I need to go to the emergency room to get Mortin."
"......you can just buy it at CVS......"
Caroochy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:10:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My weekly conversation
Me: You need a deep cleaning. Patient : But I floss and brush. Me: Floss once a month or so right ? Patient : ....
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:20:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:24:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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thelilasian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I apologize if I have offended you or anyone who is in the medical practice. I probably did not clearly post every detail (i deleted because I realized that my post wasn't ment for this thread my bad). We do understand that snake bites are uncommon to treat and we did not assume the doctor know how to treat it. But we only went to the doctors because the bite did draw blood and it began to swell and after 24hrs and did not stop, which was concerning and assumed infection. We only became frustrated when we provided all of the information, including the species of snake, and our concerns, only for him to tell us to just go home. But i do want to thank you for informing me why he had to read off the list was more of a formality! That's good to know for the future!
beardlessclamlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I apologize, just finished long shift in er. What's happened to medicine today is patients have become entitled and there is no more respect for the provider. We work hard our entire lives only for patients to question our decisions, verbally abuse us if they please and we have to take it. On top of that we always have to be careful of lawsuits and protecting our license. Its a very draining job. People forget that we are humans who don't know everything. There's no harm in looking something up, that's how everyone learns. At the end of the day after obtaining the relevant information the judgment call is ours. There's no way he would've discharged you if he didn't think your friend was ok. But he should explain everything to you, and even Refer you to the proper source if needed. Sorry for earlier again.
sarahbeast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:39:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It goes in the vagina.
Mindprompt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:06:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Guy came in and talked to me for over 30mins about how he had designed a website-based computer program that could cure all human diseases. It was called Epigenesis, and he controlled the program with his left testicle. The whole time he was telling me the story, he had this look in his eyes, begging me for help, because he couldn't stop telling me the story, but knew that it was ridiculous. He self-presented because it was the first time he had tried ice and he was having a bad time haha I will never forget the look in those eyes.
Edit: spelling
lespaulstrat2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately there are a lot of people who have fallen for this type of nonsense. I know a woman who is over $30k into this machine.
http://www.exceptionalhealth.co.uk/treatments/qx-health-mot/
Mindprompt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh yes, but is it controlled using a testicle? I think that was the part this guy had the patent on everybody.
cassodragon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:50 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An ectopic pregnancy is not "where midgets come from."
TheHamCaptain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:25 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
More gross than mutilating a newborn baby?
Onid8870 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:14:14 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: 1,000 different versions of a "real" life couple having sex wrong.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean by that, sir? It's all true. No one lies on the Internet.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:14:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Title says "Doctors of reddit" and as I'm scrolling through the majority of these start with "not a doctor, but..."
sulphide0 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:46:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the world is illiterate. Don't judge them too harshly for it. It could have easily been you.
MrCurdles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Where did you pluck that little factoid from? Something taught to you in the US education system.
helloeveryone121 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:04:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not an MD or DVM but find myself surrounded by individuals wallowing in ignorance, for my sins. One individual smugly informs me that giving dogs sugar, as in the occasional small cookie, "causes" them to have worms. I ask if her eating sugar gives her worms. "No, it only happens with dogs."
What amazes me most is that despite knowing that I have many years of college education I am just "wrong" to think otherwise. Guess who she voted for last November?
jayypewpew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:13:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear this a lot with the mexican folk. My mom used to say all the time "You crave all that sugar cause you have worms in your stomach and the more you eat the more worms youll grow." To this day( Im 24 now) I have no clue if she actually believes that herself...
Princess-Rufflebutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I mean, if it keeps you from eating shit tons of sugar then I guess there's worse things to believe.
jenimafer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:33:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I just had to explain to my friend that we couldn't drive from where we live (arizona) to pick up a friend of ours in australia. I showed her a map of the world. She then got confused because the map was flat. It was a long night.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's not always possible, but I try to avoid having friends like that.
jenimafer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:03 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah me too. But she just sorta fell into my lap during a really hard time in my life. She's not the brightest bulb in the drawer but I still love her
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:55:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a girlfriend who was a RN come home one day and exclaim to my best friend and I "Did you guys know HIV causes AIDS!"
Like...yeah babe. And we aren't in the medical field.
aud_pod21 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:20:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Grown adults in the workplace that don't mind their hygenie. I understand once in a while forgetting to put on deodorant, but when I can smell you 20 feet away, there is a major problem.
MyNameIsNooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pendulum swings the other way for perfume/cologne. When I can smell you 20 feet away, there is a major problem.
shyhalu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Try sitting across from an idiot coughing every 3-15 minutes for 4-6 hours a day for over a month because he is too stupid to go take some medicine or see a doctor.
At one point, he coughed and it felt like a fucking film of nasty covered my arms.
MyKidsArentOnReddit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:19:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From my local pediatrician:
Teenager comes in for an ADD medication refill. There is a note in her chart for past marijuana use. Doc asks about it.
Her: "Oh, I quit".
Doc: "I'm glad you quit, when did you quit?"
Her: "Yesterday morning, before school"
Doc: "If you smoke marijuana before school, there might not be a lot of point in taking medication to help you concentrate in school."
Her: "You never know how any given drug will affect me".
So let's review, she wants stimulants to go with her morning pot. sigh.
mcbain41231 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:28:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My ex-girlfriend used to think that guys HAD to have sex every day or their balls would explode. I laughed and said it wasn't true. Then immediately regretted it. Her ex was a smart guy, should have kept it going. No two minutes in heaven that night...
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:03:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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electrodude102 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
wow thats bad
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh my God. that's AWFUL.
TONKAHANAH ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:45:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to my doctor that there was no way I could have an std that wasn't even on my dick (cist of some sort on my upper /inner right thigh) if I've never had any sexual relations before. He was positive it was an std but did not know was it was. I kept it clean and dry and it cleared up in about a week. Needless to say I didn't go back to him.
Pinky135 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know you have have herpes on your face? Did you know genital warts are caused by the same virus that causes warts elsewhere? Did you know HIV can be transferred from any blood-blood contact, not only through sex?
STD's can be found in places other than the genitals and doesn't necessarily mean you had sex.
TONKAHANAH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware, but this was clearly not that, especially considering the doctor could not figure it out.
Deluxe_72002 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:11:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This story isn't mine but it's my mom's. So my mom work at a urgent care hospital and one night she had a patient come in soaking in blood and they took her in the back and when they asked what was wrong and what happened she replied that she stabbed herself multiple times in the Vagina.
helicopterattic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:55:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but had to explain to a girl in college (engineering) that women don't have a prostate gland, so there's no need for a prostate exam.
Note: they do have something similar, but it's a way different exam than prostate. Look up Skene's gland.
vijeno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:05:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, been meaning to look that up some day, now I know!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:52:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know told me this: his friend works at a hospital emerg and someone required fibreglass insulation to be removed from his ass. He liked things in his butt.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:13:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thread TL;DR....don't fuck people in the US. Apparently they are more ignorant than we thought.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:00:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh sweet summer child...if you think stupidity is limited by borders I have some unfortunate news for you.
Stewba ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Of course it isn't... but the bible belt... also you've slipped so far down the ranks in education. Only to get worse with trump
carlse20 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking of the south. The Midwest actually consistently ranks amongst the best public schools in the country. Particularly Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:02:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ok buddy.
Stewba ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:48:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.businessinsider.com/pisa-worldwide-ranking-of-math-science-reading-skills-2016-12
Thanks for coming out.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Staying relatively flat in Reading and Science, with an 11 point drop in math...I'd ask you if you understand what statistical significance is, but I don't think you really care.
I'll be the first to criticize our educational system, but only if I don't have to resort to hyperbole.
...bro.
Stewba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'd expect better from one of the world's top economies. To be beaten out by much smaller nations with less resources is kind of scary. Especially with the political state of your nation now. I predict further drops.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:50:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it is not, but widespread prevalence is at a level which makes me question integrity of education within said borders.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I understand what you're saying, but there was no need to obfuscate your terminology. My disappointment in you is writ large.
lilbear10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:06:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my new co-workers wanted to keep talking about how if you don't store food in the fridge it'll spoil.
He was talking to me about it like it's something he barely learned. During lunch he didn't want to eat his lunch because he forgot it in the car and said he couldn't eat it because he didn't put it in the fridge at work so it was spoiled. It was 9 degrees Fahrenheit outside. This dude scares me on how he has made it through life.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:07:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Qwertyowl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:12:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Darwin award.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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not__banksy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:37:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor, but I had to tell my wife not to put ANYTHING metal in the microwave yesterday.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:12:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"No, I can't give you a ride home in the ambulance after you drove your car drunk into a telephone pool, then spit blood into a cops face."
"No, I don't have to tell your wife you have a bottle stuck in your ass."
"No, you don't get your heroin back after I threw it out."
"Yes, you can overdose the first time you shoot up."
"No, I don't think smoking weed is 'better' then driving drunk."
OriginalUsername135 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:54:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My dad is an OBGYN. A soon-to-be-mother called him from the beach asking if the baby would boil if she were out in the sun too long. "You know, cuz the amniotic sac and all."
CreatrixAnima ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Juuuust enough scientific knowledge to be dangerous.
iamsnausaged ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:15:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine delivers babies and had to tell new parents why they shouldn't spell their sons name pronounced as shih- theed as shithead. It was one of those made up names.
EntropyJoker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:08:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pt w/ facial burns secondary to smoking while one home O2. Subsequently leaves the floor with their oxygen tank to go outside... and smoke... They never understood why I angrily took the O2 tank from them...
RomanticPanic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:53:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor; but I have medical experience
I had to have the birds and the bees talk with my 22 year old Co worker because she thought, that since her bf came on the knee of her jeans from a blow job, she might be pregnant. Then a series of other related questions involving jizz on various objects and stds
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:39:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Everybody in this sub is bestond comprehension to me. I live in Belgium, we have single player health care and visiting a GP is almost free. It is completely impossible in out system that a person can have such a lack of medical knowledge. You guys need single player, NOW!
punknil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even in your system it's hilarious when a doctor has to tell an adult something they should have known on their own. It's just free to get told how many tampons, and for how long, is normal now.
WaxyWingie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're preaching to the choir, here...
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:12:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TOASTEngineer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:15:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How awesome was this guy outside of that that this wasn't a deal-breaker?
casualcollapse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I do that...
hexane360 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Non medical topics and non doctors.
nailpolishfumes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:58:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm not a doctor but..."
charlie_pony ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:20:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe these all are true. I just can't. There can't be this much stupid in the world. You're all making this shit up.
beardlessclamlover ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:18:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No man. No. It's all freaking true. I believe 70% of humans are idiots, all from my dealings with patients.
charlie_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But, no...but, but, no. Where do you work, in Bumfuck Alabama, where all your patients are 9th grade dropouts?
I've never seen this much stupid in my life as is in this post, and I'm not young.
If 70% are that dumb, you'd think I'd run into my fair share of people this dumb in my lifetime, but I haven't. I don't think I've known a single person in my life that has been that stupid as people in here seem to be. Where do all these stupid people live, if I've never come across them? Where do they shop? Where does one find them?
Dithyrab ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:58:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
if you don't know, you are one.
Degru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The stupid mostly shows up when dealing with two types of people: doctors and tech support.
If you are neither of those, then you are a lot less likely to encounter the stupid.
CybrLanc3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You are very correct, but don't forget customer service.
Degru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, forgot about that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the free? Walmart.
beardlessclamlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:23 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you don't see them cause you're one of them? Joking!
But as a medical provider, in NYC, majority of my patients blow my mind.
charlie_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:39 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure this is it.
There's got to me some that are ok, and not dumb shits.
beardlessclamlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:27 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I Am Just critical. Maybe what I think is common sense isn't so common. Like if I have a runny nose, I wouldn't go to the e.r. or wouldn't spend the night drinking after my period is 3 weeks late. Or wouldn't lie about a recent miscarriage when clearly I was never pregnant (yeah we can tell if you've had a recent miscarriage with lab work). Things ppl do makes me wanna live in a light house.
charlie_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:27 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Must be in the medical field. I've never seen this many stupid people in my lifetime.
Corey307 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:58:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You would be surprised and horrified. Worked as an EMT for a year, I saw plenty of people whose arms and legs swelled up 3x using dirty needles. Tampons left in for weeks causing toxic shock. Men, generally still young enough to have a good life actively dying from a heart attack or stroke refusing hospital transport because idiocy. Not taking their diuretics or mood stabilizers or insulin because it's inconvenient but you better fucking believe they take all their pain meds. People are dumb.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Your faith in the general intelligence of the world is misplaced.
charlie_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
But....I just haven't seen it, myself. Do I just naturally hang out with a different class of people?
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I have probably just worked with the public for too long.
charlie_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:42 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you are saying that I hang out with a different class of people.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't exactly hang out with the general public, I'm just forced to deal with them.
charlie_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right. I wasn't talking about who you hang out with when off work. I was talking about m. But I don't know, now that I think about it, I'm in sales and come in contact with a ton of people - general public. They don't seem as outright stupid as the people in this post.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:56:59 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HAHA oh gosh I feel like I ask stupid questions all the time...but that's what you all are there for right?
Bflo92 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:24:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was a teller. I had a 40 to 50 year old women ask me why, when she wrote a check over a month ago, the funds were taken from her account just recently. I told her whoever she wrote the check out to must have just cashed or deposited the check; they have six months from the date written on the check unless stated otherwise.
She stares at me and, again, asks the SAME question. I also repeat myself. She repeats herself again, but adds, " When I write my checks, the money is taken out of the account, and I give it to whoever but only now, one month later, it was taken out. Why?"
I had to explain to her that, no, your funds are not extracted from your account as you write the check. The check is paper, you fill it out in pen. It does not communicate directly with your account. We, at the teller line or ATM, process the check and tell the computer to withdraw the funds. The check could sit for five months but, until it is processed by a computer, the funds will remain in the account. It was very hard to have this conversation without sounding incredibly condescending and, no, I didn't say exactly what was written above, there was more tact.
After that attempt, she told me the funds should have been withdrawn at the time the check was written, and she was going to call the 1-800 number to find answers.
Very infuriating experience. After she left, the other tellers on the line told me they couldn't believe the conversation they overheard.
Sierra_Oscar_Lima ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good story DOCTOR.
Bflo92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the title too quickly? Oh well
Littlebear333 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What does this have to do with doctor stories?
Bflo92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't see that part of the title.
throwaway-person ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:53:11 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Mocking the disabled is not acceptable or excusable (5 minutes ago in a political thread...)
TheCausality ยท -28 points ยท Posted at 00:11:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah! Laughter should be banned damnit!
StaticVulture ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:34:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No. But it is not appropriate for someone who was running for president and is now the president elect to mock and imitate someone with cerebral palsy.
Rpizza ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
GOD help us all.
Wtf did America do by picking him??? (For the record I did not vote didn't him )
malonkey1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The electors picked him. Trump lost the popular vote by 3 million.
Rpizza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That I know
GieterHero ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:57:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's a big difference between lighthearted jokes and mockery. I might not be a doctor, but I can't believe I have to explain this to someone I assume is an adult.
INSERT_USERNAME___ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:13:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I've had to explain that men also have bladders. Apparently this girl assumed that babies come from bladders or that men just sort of drip pee as we go about our day.
evlbuxmbetty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:55:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
After having cleaned up the men's bathroom at my work, I know that men do drip pee all day.
cody_jensen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a friend many years ago who was a couple months away from getting married. She was in her early 20's. In a conversation with my sister-in-law it came out that she thought sex was kissing while being naked. My sister-in-law ended up having "the talk" with her. She called the wedding off a week later.
jollyjapcrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious. Say, how was the coast guard? Good time?
Seinfeld101 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:20:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse: A patient of mine had a history of a collapsed uterus, and we suspected her sling was no longer affective because we could see something coming out. So we sent her for surgery. Can you guess what we saw? A fucking potato root. An old wives tale says you put a potato up there if you have a collapsed uterus, so that is just what she did, and it started to sprout. There was many long conversations to explain why she had to have surgery to remove it, she refused for a while
agaric ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that myth too, good memory on this one
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
oh thank God, the first vaginal potato story had me going u lntil I saw it again.
thebadlt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:04:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Collapsed"? Try "prolapsed".
Seinfeld101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ya ya that's it thats the ticket
beardlessclamlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Holy krud, nyc?
mrsmay0715 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:12:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Far from a doctor, I was a restaurant manager in NC. My team and I were prepping food for the day. One of the employees was an EMT in the evenings. This EMT walks up to me to hand me his doctor's excuse for having missed work. He seemed very serious as he handed me his excuse, so of course I was concerned and asked if everything was ok. At this point another employee walks up, an older female. She constantly ate (said she had to for medical reasons), but it was that fact that she ALWAYS had food stuck in her teeth or hanging off her lip that drove me bananas. Gross. So, she walks up (chewing on something) with food hanging off her lip. To the EMT she asks, "Hey man, you ok?" (imagine it being said over a mouth full of food). EMT sighs and says, "I mean, I don't know. The doctor said it's vertigo.". ๐ Her jaw drops in shock and all are able to see the contents of her mouth. GROSS. The "eater" then asks "Is it contagious?!" and the EMT (looking riddled with fear) replies, "I really don't know.".
I'm not knocking EMTs! My husband went through the training for it and it's not easy. But just, wow.
rektHav0k ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 20:45:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That going out to dinner and a movie with your ex-bf is a date and is kinda fucked up when you're with someone else.
EDIT: Lmao. Totally didn't see the "Doctors of reddit" part. Guess I'm still not over it. Thanks for being nice about it everyone.
MedicMoth ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:56:29 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong thread, buddy.
sarahgene ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 20:59:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's some weird medical advice.
smpsnfn13 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:01:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is really messed up and you shouldn't tolerate that. Also this has nothing to do with the topic, but I like it.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:11:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a doctor you had to say this? Oh, therapist. Right.
BraaainFud ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:54:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ill take The Rapist for $500, Alex.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
omg I almost put the rapist instead of therapist, because it's the
firstonly thing I think of when I see that word. Bless you, child. Celebrity Jeopardy was my favorite SNL skit "series."jollyjapcrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
See, it's funny because it's a big hat... get it? It's funny.
sashafurgang ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:58:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I go for dinner and drinks with my ex regularly and I am with someone else and neither one of us thinks it's fucked up. It's not a date if you're not romantically interested. It's just two mature people still being friendly.
I also really hope somewhere a doctor is having to explain this to some girl for whatever reason.
SanshaXII ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:00:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man, you doing alright?
10028ar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: So much stupid.
JeffreyDhoomer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking.
mama_cool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
r/shitshow
Im-a-Turnip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:24 on January 16, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but the doctors kept telling me I was basically non-functional in every way. They told me I was vegetative. Even though I was talking to them normally?
Chaosfay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:48 on May 26, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I have a college flatmate who got three STDs in one semester. I asked her why she wasn't using a condom. Her response? "I'm on the pill." Apparently she thought the birth control medicine prevented STDs.
LimaBravo2375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:57 on June 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, just a nurse, had to explain to a qualified LD nurse, studying to be a general nurse, that even if he just put the tip in you can still get pregnant.
She has 3 kids .......
MicroPixel ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:30:57 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nursing student here, had to tell a group of patients not to be racing wheelchairs in the unit hallway .
scruit ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:30:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the worst that can happen? They end up in a wheelch... oh...
ruubika ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:06:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
aw, you're no fun ):
bijhan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Former wheelchair user. You can take away my races, but you'll never stop my wheelies.
fknIsrael ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:00:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister thinks she can get Pregnant through anal. She walks around going "Don't go around giving anal! You'll get a girl pregnant! Use a condom" i don't wether i should tell her thats not how it works or what.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:18:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Well sir, I know you live in your car, but I had to break the window to get to the unconscious and overdosed prostitute while you were across the street buying more liquor."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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beardlessclamlover ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:16:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
THAT THEY WERE WHAT?!
was he being banged in the colostomy opening? Freaking disgusting.
ThisIsAsinine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BAHAHA hey dad
OGStrait ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:22:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends dad is a surgeon and he has many weird encounters with children doing weird things like one eating an entire nerf football or a 20 yo shoving a Febreze canister up his asshole and i bet both of those conversations weren't pleasant to talk about.
skilledloser2020 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:13:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but.. My 16 year old friend thought that women also have penises and to have sex both genders just insert it in each other's penis'
pockunit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
On so many levels I am confused. How do you put something inside of something that is inside of something?
ihateflyingthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:17 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Both have both but ones upside down and they interlock?
pockunit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
OMG like Lego? NO! Like they dovetail! JUNK AS WOODWORK CONNECTORS.
PetrRabbit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:50:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I once had a patient who came in with an inflamed right eye, and signs of mild internal hemorrhaging in that eyeball. Upon inspection, I determined there was probably repetitive irritation from an external blunt instrument.
I asked her when the irritation was most prevalent, she told me she most often felt a stinging sensation when she drank a cup of coffee.
So, I asked her: "Why don't you take the spoon out of the cup next time you take a drink of coffee?"
Sorry.
NotObsoleteIfIUseIt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:44:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend is a doctor. He has to tell at least one adult patient "nothing smaller than your elbows in your ears" every single day.
Gamegeneral ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I... I've never heard that before and I don't know what it means.
Is he literally telling people not to stick large things in their ears? How would something even half the size of an elbow fit in an ear??
NotObsoleteIfIUseIt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
๐คฆ๐ฟโโ๏ธ
Nothing smaller than your elbows
Basically, don't clean your ears with qtips or else you'll pack the earwax in and fuck your hearing up
whotaketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Is it bigger or smaller? Because I don't know how you'd put something the size of your elbow in your ear in the first place, let alone something larger.
NotObsoleteIfIUseIt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a saying in the medical field
whotaketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Which I'm in and I've never heard before (though now I'll probably hear it 20x over the next few shifts), but I understood the meaning, even if it didn't make sense the way you originally had it.
DongLaiCha ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:30:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love these threads, I suddenly feel like a genius.
ItPutsLotionOnItSkin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:09:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im not a dr but this kinda fits in. My grandmother in law is curing my aunt in laws cancer with pecan tree leave tea. She went outside, gor a lot of tree leaves and boiled them. She honestly believes it will cure her daughter.
Vladius28 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:36:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: why abstinence only education is silly
lah_lah_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My sister is a pharmaceutical rep who sold insulin. One of the doctors she used to visit had a patient who wasn't showing any effects from the medication. Because insulin is an injectable the doctor asked his patient to show him how he was administering the product to rule out any user error issues.. when the patient explained that he had been injecting the insulin into an orange and then eating the orange the doctor quickly figured out the issue ๐
MeMyselfAnDie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:01:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What a rude awakening.
"You mean I have to stab myself with the needle? Shit"
nurse__nikki ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nurse here. I had to call a 19 year old patient. I had to tell her she was positive for gonorrhea. Her response: "Did I catch that from my boyfriend's Herpes?" I then spent the next 10 minutes educating her about STD's and safe sex. I don't think any of it was retained at all.
I've also had to explain for 20+ minutes that H. pylori is in fact not an STD and no, you did not get it from having unprotected sex and no, you will not need to take antibiotics for it. Fun times.
jochi1543 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, you should treat H. pylori because of ulcer risk.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:50:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ana1ytics ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:26:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Seems to me if these stories are true, that you did many unethical things...
shinypretty ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:06:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's a good thing they aren't true, then.
Rohithssj3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You might be surprised to here the shit people are up to here. I basically did my internship in a village where child marriage and shit is still prevelant. So I pretty fucking confident that no one is going to come after me because I helped doctor-patient confidentiality to help a person.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:32:44 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I think the word you're reaching for here is Exorcism.
magichobo3 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:36:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A repossession is when the spirit or demon forgets to pay his rent for your body and the depo men come and kick it out of you
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 23:30:54 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying that you are wrong to tell the groom, but isn't that kind of divulging actually illegal?
coreanavenger ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:16:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It is indeed a breach of patient-doctor confidentiality. It is not a case of someone saying they are going to kill someone, in which case, you are obligated by law to report it. Schizophrenia =/= murderer. Giving a patient a placebo under the pretense that it is something else is unethical. Telling a patient and family that they should take necessary measures to prevent "demonic possession" is also unethical. These are the kind of things that can get your medical license taken away or at least, fired by your employer or group. Not smart to post this kind of thing for any current or future doctor. I'm honestly impressed this is all in a single post under the poster's actual account.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:24:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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aporime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Surely if you think there could be danger then you shouldn't have released her at all? In the UK we have to have a very real risk before we can break confidentiality, but she could be held under the mental health act for treatment if you feel it necessary.
Then again, I'm not against telling the groom. Kind of thing he should know. Just tough with the confidentiality rules
Rpizza ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then u should keep her in hospital if she is a danger to others. U r violating her privacy by telling people
Xsable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
safety of others trumps privacy every time.
Rpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then she needs to be committed into a hospital. She didn't make threats to harm anyone. Doctor has no right to tell other she is mentally ill. She made no threat to harm
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
In the US it would be.
Vanityfish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:35:38 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
are placebos illegal and against the Hippocratic Oath? if so, no judgements, that seems like a pretty difficult situation and your decisions seem to be made on moral grounds. but yea, that really does sound like a brutal situation to be in as a doctor.
Dulceniaa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For one, you would not have told the parents she was possessed, for two you would not have called the groom
So yea bull shit!
Rohithssj3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For starters I told the second patient that they would have to admit her for ECT and I'll start olanzipine but the parents were refused and told me that there had to be some other way for an instantaneous cure. In psych patients doctor patient confidentiality is a messy area, if taken to court I could easily say that the patient had threatened to kill the groom after marraige. Besides they won't take it to court because the bride was underage.
And in the first case I didn't tell them that it could be supernatural. The parents were adamant that psychiatry was a scam and it was all supernatural things so they had only come to visit as a last resort, we've tried everything else thing. After spending almost an hour trying to convince the parents, I gave up and told then that ehay they're saying might also be true.
Dulceniaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So if taken to court you would just lie. You are so ethical!
Rohithssj3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A pleaent lie is better than the bitter truth. What would you have done in my place ? Let a schizophrenic 17 year old girl get married to an unsuspecting man?
Rpizza ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:34:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They violating confidentiality What country do u practice in ?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:27:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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FreakinRayOfSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Military?
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you his mom?
zhelezika ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:42:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had to explain to a scientist that one of the materials our company sold was "fire retardant" and not "fire retarded".
VAShumpmaker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:06:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: ITT: NOT A DOCTOR BUT
6footgeekk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:55:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sir, your daughter in law is having terrible conceiving because she's 11 years old...
Kurlysoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Terrible what?
6footgeekk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:11 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Trouble*
Sylfaein ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a medical professional, but my story is ABOUT one.
Girl I graduated high school with went on to become a nurse. She married and had a baby...then quickly had another.
Turns out, she thought you couldn't get pregnant while breastfeeding.
She never was the sharpest tool in the shed. How she became a nurse, I will never know, but it makes me afraid of them.
muchasgaseous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a surprisingly common thought, FWIW.
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:17 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That's how I have a sister 14 months younger than me.
Sabre970 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:31:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Girlfriend is a doctor. Two amish people came in and said they couldnt get pregnant. Turns out they were doing anal the whole time
_real_rear_wheel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: I'm not a doctor but my friend plays one on tv.
randominternetdood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but observant of humanities stupidity:
How babies are made
How stds are spread
The negative affects of caffeine, nicotine, alcohol on the body
escequi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:51:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What are the negative effects of caffeine and nicotine?
randominternetdood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
caffeine, cardiac issues, shaking, seizures, yes you have to OD, but lots of people manage too, especially with coffee places selling expresso shots with no limit upon request.
Nicotene, addiction levels to rival heroin while it comes inside a product garenteed to decrease your ability to live a long healthy life, may cause cancer, asthma, copd, ect. If you boil a pack of smokes in water, allow the water to evaporate and scrape the pot with a razor, the nicotine film you harvest can be then injected into someones blood stream to give them a very lethal poisoning that wont show up properly as long as they were a smoker in their autopsy.
escequi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, so the problem isn't nicotine, it's what they pair it with. About the injection, well, most stuff you inject into blood stream will cause death lol
randominternetdood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yould be surprised how much of what you can take in the blood stream and live, but you have no chance against 1 pack of smokes worth of nicotine, doesn't matter I you smoked a carton a day, its still sure death.
Anatolysdream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, nice way to murder someone!
randominternetdood ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:14:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I do no condone or support murder. I call it cleaning up the gene pool.
IAMEPSIL0N ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Caffeine and Nicotine are both poisons that the plants make to stop animals from eating the parts of the plant that the plant doesn't want eaten but Humans are 'clever' enough that it doesn't dissuade us from consuming small amounts.
The negative effects are pretty much the normal effects and side effects but they get worse with larger or repeated dosages also they are both addictive.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:54:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember how it got to that point but i had to explain a friend of my parents who invited me and my brother over for dinner the Darwins theory of Evolution but she didn't believe me when I told her that your life doesnt change your genetic material. The worst thing is that she is an anthropologist which would make you think she knew about things like that. Well im the end I gave up due to the fact that there where 2 other adults telling me that i surely am wrong.
AlwaysKickingAround ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:05:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know what you mean and I'm sure your parents friend didn't mean this but you seem interested in this stuff so check out epigenetics. Your life will affect your genetic material in ways that can be quite significant for your descendants
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:39:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Any sources? Sounds quite interesting indeed. I didn't mean to say it like that but my english isn't good at all.
Princess-Rufflebutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it's fascinating! Here's an article that explains it pretty well.
http://www.whatisepigenetics.com/fundamentals/
AlwaysKickingAround ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sure thing, here's the wiki link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks a lot, appreciate it!
Quailpower ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 12:23:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah your In the wrong here ๐ต
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:33:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
?
Quailpower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:45 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Environment absolutely does change your genes. Now we aren't talking eat a shit tonne of carrots and turn ginger.
Through out your life your genes are rewriting themselves. Mutations occur through all kinds of machinations but exposure to substances in our food etc can cause them. Almost any environmental circumstance can act as a mutagen or alternatively activate dormant genes. It's an amazing topic and hard to summarise but look up why identical twins aren't genetically identical for life.
Notsodarknight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a restaurant as a manager and actually had to explain to one of my hostesses that you can't stick your hand down your pants and pull your thong out of your ass crack at the host stand where customers can see you.
serosis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:49:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ctrl+F, "Not a doctor".
You cunts are ridiculous.
Dixon_Butte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:03:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They had to be told that there are only two sexes, and depending on what genitalia you have determines sex.
VAShumpmaker ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:05:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sexes? That's patently untrue, medically, intersex is a real thing. Socially, I draw the line at people who Identify as a beet or a dragon as their gender, but I see no real issue with transsexuality, as it doesn't affect me at all.
TheCausality ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Inter, as in between 2 things. I wonder what those 2 things could possibly be. hmmmmmm.
VAShumpmaker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:13:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but if i can get a coffee in a small, medium or large, i dont go online and tell people only small and large are real sizes and they're yucky freaks who deserve hate because they got a medium. its a separate thing.
TheCausality ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:55:18 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The fuck are you talking about?
VAShumpmaker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:51:54 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reread it, try sounding out any words you don't know. Google is your friend, because it can provide definitions to big words.
taraquinnitus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't actually an appropriate parallel to compare it to. Small, Medium and Large are all quantities of the same measure; namely how much coffee is in a cup.
Male and Female aren't both quantities of the same measure.
The coffee is like 1,3,5 The sexes are more like -1 and +1. There's certainly 0's and definitions between these two, but the two ends function as absolutes and the defining two :)
VAShumpmaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edit. Respectfully removed. Jumped the gun, there.
taraquinnitus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:13:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
uh.. I have multiple trans friends, I'm not actually transphobic. This had very little to do with the topic you were discussing.
I have a pet peeve about poorly used metaphors, so was pointing out how the parallel doesn't work as a perfect analogy :) I agree with you, there's many shades of grey between those two. But when people use improper analogies, it weakens their argument and I wanted the argument to be good since I'm all for all this :P
Sorry you assumed the worst, I was arguing about proper analogies which might as well have been about books or movies or coffee or postal stamps. I'm as open-minded as they come and fucking hate transphobic/homophobic people. Not sure how this discussion popped up in this thread.
VAShumpmaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:08 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edited post above. Absolutely misread your tone. My bad.
taraquinnitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:30 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
haha no worries :D nice to have a discussion anyways!
Stewba ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:11:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Ummmmm hermaphrodites are also real things there are also super sext'd people who have 2 sets of reproductive organs.
This guy's not a doctor at all
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What do the twin towers and genders have in common?
xmonicleman ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nice copy-pasta of a ONCE hysterical .jpeg, you fucking degenerate!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's a bit harsh. It fit so... Get a sense of humor you angry little man
altiif ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:49 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That having a 96 oz slushee along with numerous king size Snickers bars and Reeces Pieces multiple times a day can give someone "THE die.uh.beat.eez"
malonkey1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Who could even put up with that much sugar? That just sounds gross.
MeetCleever ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lazy boy chair. Checkโ Drink Check โ Snacks Checkโ.. Read this subreddit Checkโ....
ihateflyingthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the phone/laptop/tablet charger and bed pan!
Moonwarden666 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:48:58 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, a friend tells me that DUI is the safest and most convenient contraception technique, I told her: "Your 2 daughters are DUI accidents, and 2 more miscarriages" she gets angry, she is a certified nurse, BTW
SenpaiSkeleton ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:03:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
At first I read that as DUI and I was really confused
do_the_humpty_hump ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:28:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still confused.
Moonwarden666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:59 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yes a DUI
chinchillazilla54 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:47:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is DIU?
elizte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:08:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it's Spanish for IUD, but in that case, the friend was right... IUDs are highly effective and last for years...
Lurlur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My google-fu comes up with this too. And IUDs are super effective but for some women they just don't seem to work.
Count_Giggles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
afaict it would be urinating after sex
Moonwarden666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:52 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a contraceptive method, DUI is called too
Minnmedstudent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
DUIs? Yeah, that's not a very good contraceptive method. Sounds very dangerous. I guess I can see your friend thinking that it would keep her in jail for a while, which would make getting pregnant harder.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL
Moonwarden666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
scary isnt it?
AstronautApe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Last christmas I was on a morning clinic duty. This middle aged lady complained of shortness of breath, and tells me her previous doctor prescribed her an inhaler. So I naturally explain her that she may have been diagnosed incorrectly and I will try twice as hard to fix this problem. I ask her if she uses her asthma inhaler. She says she uses it all the time and go through one a week! Now, at this point I know something is up with her. I ask her, politely, if she is sure she uses it correctly. I guess she got offended by my question and caught up on my sarcasm, she asks me if she looks like an idiot. Now, at this point my normal self would have kicked this woman out of the clinic, but I was in a bit of a pickle with my supervisor and trying to win a bet with my buddy, so I emphatically say no to her but insist that she should show me how she uses her inhaler. She reaches back to her purse, gets her inhaler and proceeds to spray it to either side of her neck like itโs a perfume :}
02ranger ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:35:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you popped a Vicodin, insulted her, and limped your way to your boss' office to make a sexually harassing statement about either the size of her ass or amount of cleavage she was showing while trying to get out of clinic duty, right?
Edit: I forgot to say that you later won the bet by "proving" parthenogenesis in humans, thereby receiving the gift you needed to win said bet.
AstronautApe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fellow fan!
02ranger ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:41:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fan of what? This was all just a wild guess. ;)
jollyjapcrap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:16:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I love his unorthodox methods.
Have a migraine? Here is a gun, point it at your temple and pull the trigger. It will cure your migraine.
PRNgirlfriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an ER nurse now, but former medical dispatcher. Had a 20-something female call 911 for feeling "tired."
I was in nursing school and working 12s...please, tell me how tired you are, I'm listening!
If you request an ambulance, you'll get a damn ambulance. And those are the types you can't convince (even with completely normal VS) that they can go POV, or GASP to their PCP. Nope. Must go by ambulance. Triage on arrival, homeslice.
Edit: I must apologize for the anger. Last night was one of those nights...and I held over
sqratch84 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:10:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
from someone who doesn't work in the medical field.. This made zero sense... I think you've been working too long!
punknil ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
20 year old lady says she's tired and wants an ambulance. A smart cookie would have just made an appointment with their regular doctor. OP dispatches an ambulance, because she's supposed to take the call seriously, but the EMTs that pick the caller up will probably dump her in a waiting room for a few hours, since the staff will tend to the patients with real problems before finally getting around to tell this caller to sleep or take caffeine.
PRNgirlfriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Unfortunately, more often than not, people don't know how to convey their complaints over the telephone (that's completely understandable) and actually end up being sicker than they may have thought. This was not the case haha.
csoup1414 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:29:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are the types of patients that get wheeled into the waiting room on a stretcher to have a seat because there are 5 people with chest pain ahead of them. EMTs usually set them down in a chair, hand them their belongings and then peace out.
roenick99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:00:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but once joked with a co-worker that if she kept holding her sneezes in like she did, that one time her brain could blow out of the back of her head. She looked me dead in the eye with a look of panic and said "Really!?!" I was shocked that she didn't realize I was joking and just "no. Not really." She was in her late 30's at the time.
Dumb. As. A. Stump.
errectnipples ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:30:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dr dre had patients say he fell off. He had to tell them his last album was the chronic
nickofknox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry about them, they ain't up on thangs.
malonkey1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Say, how's that white kid that interned under him doing? Marshall something-or-other?
nickofknox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:17:06 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hear he is triple-platinum, and his pay is above average.
nicholas_cage_mage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Medical Student. We had an 80 year old lady come in with incontinence. On taking her history it came up that she had never been able to have children, thinking she was infertile. She also had lots of urinary tract infections when she was younger, and said that sex had always been difficult and painful. Turns out she had been having sex through her urethra her ENTIRE adult life. This had stopped her having kids (which she was very sad about), and caused a bunch of other problems.
It's honestly very sad. A lack of education about sexual anatomy stopped her from starting the family she wanted
CreatrixAnima ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Her husband must have had very tiny hands.
SmellTheLoktar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:50:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is not your story.
But I've always wondered how the hell that was even possible.
reallycertaintragedy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:48:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How the hell do you even get a penis in there??
crunchthenumbers01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thats one thin penis...and or one wierd fetish.
Hippie-Witch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I can't even fathom how the mechanics of that works out.
alegna9905 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HOW.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT
pitypitybangbang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:01 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had an adult patient with three teen children. I had to explain what flossing is to this woman.
Blitzkrieg_My_Anus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: a disturbing amount of people that are too ignorant to educate themselves on human biology, if the posts are to be believed... and I guarantee they're the ones having litters of children.
shyhalu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much, go to any impoverished area and you'll see breeders everywhere.
LettuceSea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That taking a bath isn't a "female" thing. Men take baths. They're awesome.
omarfw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:49:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: proof that there are far too many people who are unaware that diabetes can kill you.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:14:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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omarfw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Diabetes isn't terminal. My dad has had it for years, but he's been treating it appropriately.
Maugabvag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:12:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a Doctor. But my friend who is Male and not stupid, he was raised by two college graduates and is attending Ohio State, not from a rural town either.
Anyways, we were having a conversation recently and no idea how we got on the topic but he didn't know women have 3 holes. He thought women pee from their vagina. He had no idea the pee came out of the urethra. So he thought he was sticking his dick in the hole that pee came out of and was relieved to find out there was another hole.
TLDR: male friend thought women peed from their vaginas
GreenThaMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently a woman thought she got pregnant when she kissed a man. I went from doctor to sex ed teacher that day.
dawelder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:59:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telling a 30 year old us marine touching both posts of a car battery wont shock you
FluffyGermz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a doc, but personal story...as a young lad in colleague I was taking a female physiology class. At one point I asked my TA, why do some women's vagina smell different? He was like, "uhh, personal hygiene differs from person to person" - facepalm
srstone71 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:35:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Read the top 10 answers and I didn't have to learn anything. I'll take that as adulting success.
oak11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:23:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Activate may be the wrong terminology, but the longer you hold it in the worse for you it is.
Sir_Garrick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well, think about it like this: at least he asked a doctor about it
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:26 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You guys actually believe there's doctors on reddit? Alrighttt
myhipsi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: Too many people are uneducated and ignorant as hell.
3p0L0v3sU ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Im not dr. But my adult freind thought i could get pregnant. I'm a man.
Usarmyethan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:38:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
From a non-medical side, most of you might be surprised how often it is in my career path I end up changing batteries in smoke detectors for adults who have families and are at least in their 40s.
I'm sorry, you have iPhones.... all of you... you could have googled it. Let's use a half million dollar fire apparatus instead.
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're saying people call the fire department to change their smoke detector batteries?
Usarmyethan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and all things in the world considered, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It ties up an apparatus that could be waiting for an emergency situation at its home station
tadc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin is a FF and is a bit disillusioned by the ratio of BS calls to productive use of his time.
Usarmyethan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:47 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We have an unwritten policy in our department that "no call is a bs call". But the reality of it is there are a lot more important things that a 1.2million dollar ladder truck and 4 firemen could be doing than chasing a cat out of a tree or digging your keys out of a storm drain.
jotterotter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my roommates who is a biology major in school literally thinks the earth is only 6,000 years old
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:12:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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missilefire ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:16:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
30 cups oh Lordy did he ever leave the toilet??
Pinky135 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copied a highly karma'd post, much?
CptCapitalism69 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:59:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I have a homosexual male friend that is convinced he has something similar to a period each month because he shits a lot and gets moody.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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CptCapitalism69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The shitting is what really made me laugh. He's really flamboyant fuck if I know.
serialmom666 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is somewhat related, because of incredible ignorance & biology...a woman talking about a litter of stray kittens, " it was hard to get their eyes open so I could put drops in them."
sailor_rose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:15 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Not doctors.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Religious conservatives are utter morons.
(But we knew that already.)
dirkdirkdirk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a med student as a patient and she did not know what floss was during an emergency visit.
sexualcatperson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The med student was hopefully just really brain dead.
Oneperfectdayx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Athletic Trainer here - when I was a student our head ATC had to have a sit down conversation with a college senior (student athletic trainer at that) about deodorant use and soap because of his BO. It was bad!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's good to see this thread pop up every few months
BSNMSN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
So you're kiddo is sick with a viral infection, caused by a virus. The is not a medication that will make this virus go away. No, antibiotics treat bacterial infections, they will not help this (this part is a conversation I have way too often) .... This response though, from the parent of a five or six year old "Wait, so a virus can cause a fever?"
shawty-lo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but it's amazing how many grown adult women think they pee out of their vag.
wighty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"How do I get pregnant?"
MeltedToButter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I had a patient come in for a procedure in which she was required to insert a tampon. The patient was a women in maybe her fifties and she asked me where was she supposed to insert the tampon...
jwhoa83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A long conversation about how to wipe front to back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:14 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Pinky135 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i thnk you meant to reply to someone else.
cookie5427 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:11:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, you are correct. Forgive me, but I am going to delete that comment and post it in the appropriate location.
puppies-etc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:51 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What the what the what. Thanks for replying!
ithoughticouldresist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:24 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I really like your username.
slurpthegravytrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:58 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have loved to mess with him if I didn't have to be all professional and shit. "What?! That means they have cancer? My dogs both eat grass! I gotta get home RIGHT STAT NOW!!"
TerrorGatorRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:00 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oops
thepicklednelson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:31 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying it's a good idea. I'm saying it's a GREAT IDEA
ISpenMoney ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:35:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry it's a little off topic since not a doctor, but it needs to be shared- my mothers elementary school had an "election" in november, where kids were shown how a ballot is cast and they could choose between Hilary and Trump, and they tallied the results after the day and declared who was the winner at the school. A parent called in with concerns that her daughter had not been educated enough on the issues in politics and was worried that her 6 year old daughter's vote actually counted in the general election for President. It took a teacher and a principal to finally convince her it wasn't a real ballot...
oz_moses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
a little off topic would be posting something about a DVM.
justinwilberding ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:49:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much, they all begin with, "I'm not a doctor, but."
Spazmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:34 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
and most of them explain that they're in the medical field, so still related.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:55:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I loved reading all of these!
JMan613 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That 2 dollar bills is a real thing. Everytime I pay with 2 dollar bills.
louise1jc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:09:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As a flip side to this I have to generally tell my doctor about my condition...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:21 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Stopman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:16 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
...are you not a doctor, or does this just have nothing to do with your career?
1Maple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:42 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you're a doctor, otherwise this comment doesn't even remotely belong here.
bostwickbeefybits ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:31:45 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck me, didn't read the full thing. Disregard.
1Maple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:47 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I was really hoping you were a doctor, then it would still fit
ArbitraryPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:28 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What was your story?
ClownPornEnjoyed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:56 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is this
1Maple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:18 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Basically they misread the question, and shipped over the "Doctors of reddit" part.
It just had to do with a friend driving a car with a manual transmission.
ClownPornEnjoyed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:12 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I see, I thought it'd be more ridiculous than that
foreststairs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but I had to tell a patient not to stick her hands in a toilet full of menses and poop to show me that she was menstruating. And that she should wash her hands.
Frodde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My boss told me about a former coworker who came into work and asked if he could take off a bit early, to go see the doctor. My boss says sure. Then he asks what's up and if he should be concerned. The guy then says "I think I might have osteoporosis in my right arm". My boss looked at him, like the idiot he was, and started laughing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Toasterferret ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:49:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Every singe thread like this some idiot who doesn't understand HIPAA, and can't even spell the acronym, comes in and makes an accusation like this.
Congratulations, today YOU get to be that idiot.
Coolman_Gaming ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:10:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, sorry I'm on a my phone and it autocorrects shit. Fucking douchebag.
Toasterferret ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, did it autocorrect you into entirely misunderstanding what HIPAA actually entails? That's interesting.
Coolman_Gaming ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You sir, have earned douchebag of the year award.
Toasterferret ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:18:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
For pointing out that you had no idea what you what you were talking about when you tried to accuse people in this thread of professional misconduct? Cool. Is there a monetary prize attached to this award or is it for bragging rights only?
nibbles200 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:48:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't see any names or identifying information... Yet.
Catereddeathpanel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:48:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Donald Trump has violent hemorrhoids.
rexmus1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how to do that neat cross-out-words action I see u kids do, but if I did, I'd cross out "has" and replace with "is a." Oh, and the "s" at the end, too.
redstern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen any personally identifiable information here so far. As long as nobody uses any, this is perfectly fine.
MzOpinion8d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Someone must have recognized themself...lol
luvshaq_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lot of doctors on here tonight
2hoodrich4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: I'm not a doctor but...
dylanbob5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Freshman year of college (Fall 2011) I walked in on my roommate and a friend of ours from across the hall watching Sports Center. On TV, the commentators were talking about a game Alabama had played earlier that day. My roommate turns around, looks at me and says, "Hey dylanbob5, Alabama...that's a town in Georgia right?" Both our neighbor and I freeze, turn, and look at him blankly. He didn't know that Alabama was a state. He was 18 years old, American by birth, and was enrolled in a high quality university. I couldn't fathom how he had somehow reached that point in life and education and didn't at least recognize the name of a state.
MeMyselfAnDie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse, since many lists are alphabetical, which makes Alabama the first state in the list
ryanispiper ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
MagicMan5303 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory "not a doctor", but I'm sitting in my living room watching tv the other day and my roommate walks out and says "Can you get pregnant when you're not ovulating?". She's a 21 year old female, and she was dead serious.
mullerwt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.cdc.gov/features/smoking-eyesight/
Nigelwethers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One of my employees thinks she's a cat. She meows at customers and her peers.
pogafuisce ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:05:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
.....is she a cat?
redstern ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:15:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I went to high school with someone who was like that. I've never really known what to make of it. I don't know whether to brush it off as some weird obsession or a strange mental illness.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:36:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You should really fire her...
If some weirdo employee starts meowing at me I'm never coming back...
heyitsaubrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, however my mother always comes to me with her medical questions due to my knowledge of medicine. Which comes from having chronic medical conditions, and working in health foods/supplements. I recommended she take a garlic supplement for her "lady issues" because she's on a homeopathic kick. She thought she was supposed to put the tablets in her vagina because they couldn't find it on their own through her bloodstream, since menstrual blood is different than regular. She apparently thought that the uterus/vagina don't have bloodflow?
Borlean69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
As an 11 year old i thought that you could get aids from having anal sex, like two non aids having peeps. (There was no internet back then).
Funny thing was i actually said this in sex ed one day and i wasnt corrected.
Public schools suck (at least mine did)
kitizl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the stories here sound like the stories in the clinic in House MD.
DrugsandGlugs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I got hemmeroids at 16 and went to my primary care doctor to confirm. She then told me (after fingering my asshole) that Iit was a growth that could potentially be cancerous and I needed to have it be removed immediatly. She reccomended me to a larger hospital, whereafter another doctor (upon fingering my asshole again) said, "nah it's just a hemmeroid, take smaller shits"
leftybanks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friend used to volunteer as a reproductive health educator in a rural part of China and told me this story:
A married couple visited the local county doctor, trying to figure out why they were having trouble getting pregnant despite trying for several years.
The doctor did all the usual fertility tests and determined that there were no issues with either partner. They assured him they were having sex on a regular basis.
Just to be sure, he decided to have a more discrete conversation with them as to what exactly they were doing and asked my friend to step outside.
After a few minutes, the wife storms out of the office, clearly mad as hell. The husband follows a bit later, looking embarrassed. My friend goes back into the office.
The doctor looks at her, shrugs and says, "wrong hole."
nocturnalfrolic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:57:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO
I-seddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
every episode of House where he's required to do a tour of duty for Cutty.
enocc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:41:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You mean Cuddy, mate.
I-seddit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:46:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
should I fix it? or just let it be Cuddly?
noclue1274 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but my mom thinks that hepatitis A turns to B and B turns to C and so on and so so on. Also side question can soda cause kidney problems?
Liv-Julia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, if your kidneys are already compromised or you are diabetic. The phosphorus and sugar tear them up.
jollyjapcrap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you get kidney stones from drinking too much soda?
Liv-Julia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:24 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think so, but I am so not a renal nurse.
slurpthegravytrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If I didn't have to be all professional I would have loved to acted all over dramatic and distraught over the fact that both my dogs munch on the occasional green stuff. You're telling me my dogs have cancer? They hardly ever smoke!!
slurpthegravytrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard upset stomach, need more roughage, other intestinal issues. I didn't really study up on dogs and cats eating grass in paramedic school though.
SuperCPR ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor...But a paramedic(whichhh is pretty much the same thing, probably better than a doc ;-) )....
Dear God, people are stupid. Every person we treat with COPD smokes. Every person with abdominal pain caused by alcohol, is drunk when we pick them up for abdominal pain. They literally have no understanding of cause and effect. Urban Outdoorsman (bums/homeless) don't understand why they are cold and have no money. The number of kids we go on that are having a hard time breathing and the parents are smoking in the house while we are treating their kids. Common. Sense. Is. Dead. Annnd people are soooo stupid.
Sephrik ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:31:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't say paramedics are better than your typical doctors, just different. I can understand how you feel about these things, but specifically people who have COPD and smoke, there are reasons. It's called addiction. If you've never been there, then you can't really understand how hard it is for them to give it up. They may want to, and they may try, but there's thousands of people out there who, every day, try to quit and can't. To be fair, there are better methods, like vaping, but I can understand their situation, and wouldn't say it's necessarily a lack of common sense. As far as homeless people go, lots of people in those situations have underlying mental health issues and can't/aren't thinking straight. That and they're literally at the lowest point in life and can't understand why. Again, that's not a lack of common sense, that's desperation.
squishy_junebug ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:52:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Paramedics are "different" from docs in the fact that they have way less education. A paramedic's goal is to keep the patient alive till they get the patient where ever they're going. That's it. A lot of paramedics, however, have egos that could rival surgeons.
Source: am RN that has had to deal with a few too many cocky paramedics that thought they could question my assessment and nursing judgement.
Sephrik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Right well, I was trying to make an intelligent point, not blow the guy up like that.
oz_moses ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:51:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
LOL!
It's usually dentists who are comparing themselves to an MD.
giver_of_the_snark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Urban outdoorsmen - I am stealing that one!
KCL40mVal ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:43 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i'm pretty sure. not sure about the spelling though.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:36:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not even drinking age (US) yet and I had a coworker maybe 5-7 years older who got upset because someone accidentally hit the hot keys to flip 'her' (one of three computers at a nursing station) monitor display. She whined and literally almost cried for five minutes because she didn't know how to fix it and no one was 'fessing up. I googled it on my phone and had it fixed with 15 seconds.
I had to tell her to google a problem instead of throwing a tantrum.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oz_moses ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:47:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a strange conversation to have with one's Doctor...jusayin'
jollyjapcrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Especially a bank doctor
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:45:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:57:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's possible the doctor has had a previous patient do that before. Medicine continues to astound me, not only because of the vast technological advances we've made, but also the ingenuity of patients in trying to die anyways.
Mgmegadog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:57:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The act of wiping back to front is a common cause of UTI's, it's a pretty standard question that could stop you from doing it in the future if you are doing it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Mgmegadog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:03:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's just rude. Informing people is one thing. Shaming them for not already knowing is completely different.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe I should have mentioned that earlier.
Wile-E-Coyote ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And I got ridiculed so many times when suggesting this to Ex's as a precaution. I actually paid attention to health warnings and sex ed, don't fuck me again right?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Women have shorter urethras, so it's easier to get UTIs
Wile-E-Coyote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:49:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am aware of that, figured since guys are never really given this advise it was implied I was a guy.
Pleaseluggage ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:24:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Heh. Okay. So my sister just replied that she had to tell a patient that groping her is not acceptable. Yeah. Jesus people.
feistyfoodie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:22:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
BFF had to explain to a grown man what celery was. She finally Google'd it and showed him a picture and he claimed he'd never seen it in his life.
I still don't know how this could be true, but he had diabetes so I'm guessing his diet didn't include much vegetables.
(He asked her for healthy snack ideas since he drove a bus and couldn't eat his regular candy bars Ana whatnot anymore. She suggested celery with peanut butter, I think.)
glottony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
An osteopath is as much a doctor as a naturopath. They aren't doing shit
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Checked your post history a little bit to see how far this bullshit followed you. Dig your heels in buddy, you're shameless.
glottony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:48:45 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much. But you're still a quack
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:00 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry you couldn't get into medical school
glottony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:55:16 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up nurse
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:23 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn you're not even smart enough to be a competent toll. Good luck in the next life ma'am.
glottony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:28:43 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not smart enough to spell, small wonder you're a DO.
ShamelessFox ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:03:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Can you please explain this about naturopathy to my BFF? Thnx.
Aeleas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How about we start with the governor of Massachusetts, since there's a bill to license them sitting on his desk.
ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with you.
I've got this very well educated woman taking medical advice via Skypefrom some crackpot and wondering why she keeps getting sick and having medical problems.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:30:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
All these stories convince me we need WWIII or an asteroid or whatever can kill all of us to fucking hurry up and get here. We are irredeemably stupid and have outlived our usefulness as a species. FTW
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:31:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I own a construction company. Can I answer this question?
thatguyinstarbucks ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 02:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Just today, the owner of a coffee shop I'm sitting in asks me "In what country is the Panama Canal"? I asked politely if he was shitting me, and answered Panama. He said I was 2nd of 12 people that day to get it right.
thingsthatbreak ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:31:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is that relevant?
thingsthatbreak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:31:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How is that relevant?
Oznog99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It's in Canal.
bentbrewer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife just sad "sea anal, as in a boat"
gaming0monkey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:15:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to explain to my mom that you don't catch a cold from simply being in the cold. My grandfather was one of the best doctors in our town and recieved the highest honor one can get in our town for his work...
dahlek88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:18:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but I knew someone in college who thought that girls peed out of their buttholes.
evlbuxmbetty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:52:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a very serious argument with a guy once that girls do in fact poop and fart. He sincerely did not believe they did. He was a beady eyed fuck anyway.
oz_moses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a girl, I take it?
Frugalista1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I'm in the hospital I end up with a Foley catheter. 7 times last year alone.
My dear sweet husband still thinks I don't have to use the toilet to poop then. Ugh!
Hank_Fuerta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:48:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My wife was a surgical tech for a long time and she told me this story an OB/Gyn told her about a couple he'd been seeing for some time. They couldn't get pregnant and kept trying and trying. Nothing. Their tests came back fine, everything seemed normal so doc starts asking more questions. Turns out, yep, they were doing it in the wrong hole.
_bamuh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: I'm not a doctor but...
lambofgun ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While I was on vacation at home, one of my employees broke the shit out of a tow motor because he tried to use it to pick up a... tow motor. I was never more enraged to be playing video games in my boxers and have to udder the phrase "well [employee], what did you think was going to happen" when they called
Edit: I am such an idiot, I didn't realize this is for doctors only
Stephen1985 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:56:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor just fyi
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 04:27:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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the_schmeez ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:10:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a HIPAA violation if they don't give up names and locations
allyourbase51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Uh... no, it's not.
MeMyselfAnDie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time I had this patient that thought vague stories without any identifying information could be HIPAA violations.
Caz1982 ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 01:13:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Naturally, large portions of this thread would end up dedicated to ripping on the American health care system and getting moralistic about how healthcare should be free. Fuck it, I haven't had enough downvotes this week.
We have a terrible health care system here, true. It's ungodly expensive. But that's largely because the government has tried to get everyone covered without taking over the institutions directly and socializing it. This means that they have been essentially demanding that insurance companies write a blank check any time a doctor says that an expense is warranted.
We would be far better off with no regulation at all than we are with what we have. Prices would be obscenely low, employers would be able to cover employees more easily, and community nonprofits could cover those who slip through the cracks.
I can't believe more adults don't understand this.
ZiggyTheHamster ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:21:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The only way this is true is if you think the CEOs running insurance companies are going to decide not to make their shareholders a shitload of money.
What will instead happen is that we'll get worse service for roughly the same price, and the difference in cost will go back to the shareholders. Sure, a competitor could come up to provide better service for less, but the lack of regulation means that the insurance companies could form a racket and keep the new guy out via exclusivity contracts. This is why you don't see a hell of a lot of online-only banks (Ally is the only one I can think of): because they have to play nice with the big guys or else.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I probably misstated that; I meant no regulation on health care specifically. Anti-trust, which holds for every business, still applies. There's no reason to assume cartel formation, which if anything has been made easier with excessive regulation.
But you're showing a distinctly dark view of the character of health care that is filled with people who see themselves as caring and interested in human decency. Even lawyers take pro-bono cases.
ZiggyTheHamster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:49:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If insurers were doing it out of the goodness of their heart, insurance companies wouldn't have executives that make more money per hour than most people make in a year. They also wouldn't have shareholders, because "making people healthy" and "making a ton of money" are diametrically opposed goals.
Caz1982 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:04:56 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A) making people healthy and making a ton of money aren't diametrically opposed goals. Making extremely poor people healthy, maybe. But not everyone is extremely poor, helping the extremely poor is a charitable cause and you can't run a system that works for everyone how it works for them, and some people actually think that providing a valuable service justifies getting paid for it.
B) Have you considered that health insurance companies don't have enough competition? And that regulation is making it much easier for them to avoid competition? That maybe doctors could do better for their patients by working outside of the insurance infrastructure?
I'm not defending the profit margins of insurance companies. They are a symptom of a problem, and that problem is regulatory capture, allowed by a culture that simply doesn't want to think about paying for anything directly when it comes to healthcare. That gives them too much power. I'd rather the government mandate financing for major procedures than mandate insurance.
ZiggyTheHamster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Making everyone healthy means that the top two things an insurance company will pay for is preventative care and emergency care. Preventative care should be free (or bundled with the premium cost) if your goal is to make everyone healthy. Emergency care costs vary wildly and insurance companies are less able to control costs because you're going to be going to the closest one.
As a result, they're not going to make as much money. However, if your deductible is so high that it's not worth going to the doctor, yet you still pay the premium, they make a ton of money. This is what they want you to do.
The government can fix this situation in one of two ways:
As far as insurance companies not having enough competition, that is a problem they largely brought on themselves. Yes, the states regulate insurance companies differently, so you end up with "lines around the states" like Trump puts it, but an early version of the ACA was going to fix that and it wasn't well received by the insurance companies or the people involved in the bill because it took away a right from a state.
Also, the individual mandate was a condition by the insurance companies for ignoring preexisting conditions. If you have another idea on how to allow people with preexisting conditions to get insurance/healthcare without mandating everyone have insurance, Congress would like to know.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Insurance companies are still companies, so saying they brought a lack of competition "upon themselves" is kind of like saying that Rockefeller brought his monopolistic practices upon himself. I don't think that would be a bad thing from his perspective.
Those companies are making money and the ACA is helping. Beyond that, your suggestions 1 and 2 would probably save money, although they have the same problems that any given government-run economic situation has: bureaucratically run cost calculations that are rarely flexible enough to deal with price changes anywhere in upstream markets, the likely creation of queues from inadequate supply and excess demand, and the occasional screwy incentives that come from rigid payout policy.
Preexisting conditions are just costly. To avoid the individual mandate, I'd rather raise the Medicare tax and put it into a fund that would be based on the previous year's costs, then means-tested, and let charities or rolling zero-interest debt handle any overflow.
But eventually, if we can't accept that some people will be uninsured, it'll probably be single-payer, I'd guess at the federal level (Medicare for all). I don't like it, but it's cleaner and better than what we have now.
ShortbusOK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I read this as pro-bonobo cases.
casual_observer681 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:21:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Worse service for a much higher price (as much as 300 percent) is what we've gotten with the ACA. It is neither affordable nor decent care. Insurance companies, regardless of whether it is medical, auto, or home have are in business to maximize profit for shareholders, not protect the insured. A less regulated environment would help control costs, but only if government plays a proper role in preventing price fixing.
ZiggyTheHamster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Why would this change with less regulation? Less regulation = less money spent on complying with regulation = more money for shareholders = insureds still get screwed.
Health is not a free market and should not be subject to the same treatment. If your car breaks down, you can call around and see who provides the best value for you. If you break your arm, you will visit the nearest ER and hope they can get you fixed sooner rather than later.
shyhalu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:29:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the thread is ripping on people like you, ignorant of the things you talk about.
Our healthcare is ungodly expensive because we have a combination of complete idiots being given access to care and insurance companies doing whatever they can to increase the bottom line.
It was ungodly expensive before any government intervention, and it is still ungodly expensive after. And other countries don't share this problem.
Tried that in the past, didn't work. I don't know about you but I don't appreciate the idea of being denied entry into a hospital because they couldn't find my wallet as there are no longer any regulatory laws telling them to operate first, bill later.
And no, it doesn't mean companies writing a blank check. That is just you have issue with any form of authority and giving an extreme example that is simply not true.
Caz1982 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:46:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you aren't arguing that costs haven't gone up, because that's not even close to being supportable. And I'm not talking about Obamacare, so I don't mean just the last six or seven years.
But I will say that making insurance companies cover everyone and ignore pre-existing conditions has made it worse. There has been no downward pressure on price in the American health care market for decades. A market system might help that but subsidies and demand for universal coverage will not.
shyhalu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Slowing down the rising costs != stopping costs from going up.
Did you actually read the ACA laws?
Caz1982 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:18:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Okay fine, "making insurance companies cover everyone" is an exaggeration, and there are plans which are grandfathered and don't have to cover PEC's. Let's get pedantic.
And of course I didn't read the entire ACA. If you did, then you could probably digest War and Peace along with the Wheel of Time series in a long weekend. I applaud your stamina, but you know what the ACA said about PEC's; it's summarized on the ACA website, and it takes very little economic imagination to see how it could raise costs.
How far would the costs have gone, and at what rate, in the absence of the ACA? You don't know. It's a counterfactual. But based on your own characterization of insurance companies and the uncontroversial reality that they had a seat at the table for the drafting of the bill, there's no reason at all to think they've taken a hit.
And good God, stop being defensive and let's get back to the point. I'm not a Republican.
shyhalu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't read the ACA, you know you are exaggerating things.....and you "can't believe more adults don't understand this"?
Most adults read and try to understand the things they criticize, you aren't one of them.
You don't even understand what is coming out of your mouth now.
Is there even a reason to continue this conversation? Nah, we're done here its easier to just block you. Maybe you should consider switching to being a Republican, you have the integrity and intellectual honesty along the same lines of the teaparty members.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What is wrong with you?
From the ACA website: "No insurance plan can reject you, charge you more, or refuse to pay for essential health benefits for any condition you had before your coverage started."
Is there something difficult to understand about this? It means they ignore pre-existing conditions. Saying "they can't charge you more" guarantees that they charge everyone more to begin with to keep from taking a loss based on the probability you will cost them more. The costs get pooled and everyone pays more.
"Cover everyone"; does the ACA require that everyone gets health insurance or face a punitive fine, or not?
Have you or have you not read the entire ACA yourself? Because it's barely hyperbole.
Protip: when someone says "let's get pedantic", they usually are indicating sarcasm. You've ignored the entire point of the conversation to "win" the argument, all because you can't economics. Nice job.
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage/pre-existing-conditions/
I guess this is an illegitimate source of information to you.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:11:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol it's not because they are young / old . It's because politics makes people act like children playing against a rival high school team. Unfortunately healthcare has become very political. It's really sad because America leads the world in healthcare and a more free market would probably help the world.
yoshimanga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is only true if you ignore every other high income country. America is at or towards the bottom on every health care metric for first-world countries. http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2015/oct/us-health-care-from-a-global-perspective Except spending. We're pretty much the best at that.
bentbrewer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You and your pesky facts.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
If your filthy rich in this world you generally go to high end american hospital. Not saying its efficient or that just any hospital would do.
yoshimanga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:35 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wish that it was rich people going to great hospitals that was driving up spending. It's mostly ER visits for poorly managed complex chronic illnesses. A great example of it is this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DiwTjeF5AU
If you're interested in learning more about the data behind healthcare spending in the US and how/why that isn't reflected in outcomes (basically, we spend tons of money but are dying earlier and living in poorer health) I'm happy to provide you with more info.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:38 on January 13, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I'll watch that
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It may be expensive but it is one of the best in the world
Caz1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. But you can't ignore efficiency.
Doomslayr ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor but one of my mates hadn't seen star wars before...
TrivialAntics ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:32:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure how worried I am that there are physicians here with such badly atrocious basic grammar and spelling skills.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:04:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TrivialAntics ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:28:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't improper grammar. Explain how.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:50 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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TrivialAntics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:21 on January 12, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... By the standards of literature perfection, That's not how it's expected to be written. Yeah it's redundant, but Jesus, that's an overly particular observation,don't you think?
I could see if we were writing some technical dissertation to be read aloud in front of prestigious snoots or something that warrants impeccably flawless grammar. Like, idk, some standardized curriculum text, but that's a reach in a place like reddit.
Those kinds of corrections in lit were so fucking annoying. I always wanted to tell my teacher "I fucking know, you asshole. I MEANT to write it that way, now fuck off." lol
Honestly, man. Don't make grammar nazis look like prancing hippies on lsd. This conversation was almost embarrassingly unnecessary, lol Why'd you do it, were you that bored?
Spazmer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:34 on January 14, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wait wait wait... you criticized the spelling and grammar of others, then freaked out when your own piece of writing was criticized. Maybe they MEANT to write it that way.
TrivialAntics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:38 on January 15, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The spelling of others. Not the grammar. No doctor should mispell the most common words we use and the comprehension of any doctor that does is suspect. Or did you think every doctor got through med school with flying colors? That's a valid observation. The criticism on my grammar had no leg to stand on whatsoever. A doctor that makes 4th grade spelling mistakes is no doctor I'd be interested in seeing. If you would, well... by all means, you let me know how that works out for you. Just don't come crying your stupid tears at us on reddit when they cut off the wrong nut.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:54:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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pastelsnowdrops ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Edgy.
JohnnieGoodtimes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:09:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not as edgy as saying edgy
FreedomFromIgnorance ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:39:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll probably gross you out, but once I tore my frenulum during sex. Very bloody, very painful and very unlikely for people who are circumcised (if at all possible). That was probably the worst drawback.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dafuq are you talking about
oz_moses ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:52:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
fuggit- have an upvote!
carriage4hire ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 00:53:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
anytime someone defends Trump
monika099 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 09:41:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A patient came up to a doctor friend of mine, asking for same spa she received at some salon for her hair fall problem.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:56:26 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That common core is garbage.
terrycotta ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 08:08:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Not a doctor" so I'm NOT GOING TO ANSWER THE FRIGGIN QUESTION! smdh
Corey307 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:22:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
There's 100x more PA's, nurses, paramedics and EMT's out there with perfectly good anecdotes. It's the prompt that's the problem.
terrycotta ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 08:24:06 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This wasn't meant for them.
Corey307 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:50:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Then you'd lose out a pile of great stories.
terrycotta ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:59:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
what would you "lose"?
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You're not witty or smart pointing out a single spelling mistake, AutoCorrect does funny things when you're on mobile. And you abandoned your initial complaint so there's that.
terrycotta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:59:19 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I sure felt witty and funny, but thanks for letting me know ;)
Corey307 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:22:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The downvotes let you know that you have a unique sense of whatever.
terrycotta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:39 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
even professional standup comedians get boos and dislikes sometimes. It's part and parcel of putting yourself out there.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Kurisuchein ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:43:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What am I missing here?
forevergallifralone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's dumb about that? I don't understand.
Bradford_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My buddy busted a nut in his girlfriend right after she started taking birth control. (face palm)
msieurmoustache ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had a nurse ask me when we'd have the genotype results for a negative testing of HCV. I had to tell her we couldn't identify the genotype of something we didn't even found. I had to explain it a couple of times before she got it.
Mandie_Renee_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Education wins fans.
haleykohr ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, top posts aren't even from doctors
crimsonpalisade ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Irl flatearthers, fmd.
halfginger16 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, nor am I related to a doctor, but my mother had to explain to a very angry nurse that the reason I was not sitting up straight in my chair (2-3 days after spinal surgery) was because I was healing from spinal fusion, and was nowhere near strong enough to sit up that much.
I realize that they had me try to sit up to make sure my muscles/bones healed well, but be reasonable. I'm trying my best, don't yell at me expecting me to have princess posture.
KaraWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I would have considered telling my mom to strap me in the chair. Lol effort to sit up? Nah. Strap me up k thanks.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:31:30 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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hist0ryRepeats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My 9 year old nephew still believes in Santa. He was so excited to find Santa got him the gift he wanted this year, again.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 21:29:00 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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shinypretty ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:32 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The vast majority of this thread isn't true, is the answer.
jaygould13 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:01:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yesterday my 25 year old sister looked at me dead in the eyes and said "isn't auschwitz a Jewish thing?" I have never been more ashamed.
deanna0975 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Downtime?
Morawka ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:12:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
any non physician/health care related experiences?
runnertrish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:36:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably.
Idontstandout ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:54:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I will have to search online for studies. Maybe someone on Reddit has come across one?
iMissMacandCheese ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:44:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
IANAD, but as a 27 year old I had to explain to my mother of two children that pee comes out of a different hole than babies.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:53:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
not a doctor, my wife is in IT industry and she was shocked when her 28 yo married (female) colleague didn't know what an orgasm was
Vivirmos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:54:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Reading down this page has gotten me even more worried about not being able to see a doctor
MiniBaby44 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:24:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
mybosseverydamnday
princerae ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:40:50 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for explaining that to me!
slurpthegravytrain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:19:14 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm very certain his imaginary dog could've used the ambulance more than his real girlfriend!
weezethejuu-ice ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:34:54 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
He did his best. I turned out okay haha
The_Jackal628 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 01:23:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This guy at my work is constantly complaining he has no money. Yet he blows his paycheck on things he doesn't need. He also refuses to pack a lunch and eats out everyday. It's like talking to a brick wall. Don't complain your broke when you blow your money on frivoulous things.
Akashic101 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 07:28:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor in any way, but a student. I sport-class we played voleyball. I smacked the ball over the net, where another classmate tried to catch the ball. Didn't work, couldn't move his thumb after that, got swollen and blue. And here is the thing, he thought there were no bones in your thumb that could break. He didn't went to a medic 3 days. After holidays he comes in with a bandage.
tl'tr: mate sucks at sport, broke thumb, didn't care
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:01:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: I'm only an EMT with six months of schooling.
gambiting ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:36:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My friends ex-fiance said to him that he's not allowed to be friends with me until I add her on Facebook. For the sake of the friendship,I had to have a conversation with her explaining that I don't add everyone on Facebook but that doesn't mean I don't like her. I hated her fucking guts. Also, we're adults with jobs,this is not a kindergarten.Few months after the engagement she told my friend she likes him more as a friend than someone she would like to be with, so I guess he dodged a bullet there.
theDeadmanDave ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:44 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I work in a retail store that offers printing services, I once had a young man come in with a laptop. He sat at the counter frustrated, and after several minutes of refusing our help, he finally demanded to speak to a manager. He then proceeded to complain that no matter how many times he presses the print button, we still weren't printing his documents. This guy turned out to be a lawyer (or more realistically worked for one) trying to print out precedents for a case he was working on in town.
chronopoly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Good one, doc
HelpfulMoose ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:16:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Pinky135 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:36 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Liners2001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:09 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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payattention007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wind.
MagicalKartWizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
-SPAWN!
crashing_this_thread ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:17:35 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to convince him that midnight was 12 o'clock and not "sometime around 2 to 4 or something, I don't know".
He was degenerate so I stopped hanging out with him shortly after this.
Edit: For entirely different reasons. He was a sadist who tortured and killed other peoples house cats for fun.
foghornleghorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you my wife?
Thebossjarhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please let that person be your wife. That would be hilarious.
crashing_this_thread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Are you degenerate?
And no, I doubt it.
Thebossjarhead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:25:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Please let that person be your wife. That would be hilarious.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 01:07:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder how many of the 'doctors' posting here are actually doctors. I doubt they have time to scour Reddit in their spare time.
Bmood1 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:33:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
i had to teach a guy how to take a derivative of 2x. he was in calculus 2.....
DookieS13 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:30:17 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing special, but a couple blue collar ones.
Had a guy go to work underfloor on a train, and was told to bring his tools, so instead of doing that, he walks down into the pit with windex and paper towels, completely ready to work.
Had a guy at the fire suppression company I once worked for test a 300gpm fire pump. While standing by the front of a test port to get a pressure reading, the other guy started the pump to begin. So Donny dipshit stands in front of the port holding the gauge, almost getting knocked over, but continues to stand in front of the jet stream of water trying its hardest to knock him down, for about a minute and a half straight. For reference, the water output is about the same as two fire hydrants combined.
IrishLaaaaaaaaad ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 08:50:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not a doctor, but my sister used to work in a hotel and she had to teach one of her coworkers how to use a mop properly.
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 23:41:20 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
HIPAAAAAAAAAA!
granitekitty ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:48:07 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
None of these things violate HIPAA since they in no way identify the patient.
MagicalKartWizard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:10:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
bone's connected to the thiiiiiiiigh bone...
scruit ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
This is a thread about doctors, not veterinarians.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 23:33:55 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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SchalkeSpringer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:51:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Elk" originally was the word for moose(Alces alces sp.), moose populations in Europe/Asia are called elk still. North American Elk(Cervus canadensis sp.) are better called wapiti to avoid confusion if you're talking to someone from Europe. Asian/Eurasian species of what would be in North America an elk(Cervus canadensis sp.) are called wapiti exclusively because "elk" still refers to the moose(Alces alces sp.).
People sometimes don't realise that moose have an extensive range in Norther Europe and Asia- in fact in the not too distant past the moose even had subspecies in Iran and surrounding areas! It's not a strictly North American species. Neither is the wapiti.
I think this was probably a language confusion, not someone being stupid or ignorant. "Moose" were called Elk long before they were called "moose" by English speakers.
vengefulmuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
She's lived in America her whole life. It wasn't language confusion, that I would understand, she's just not that bright.
SchalkeSpringer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did she think moose and wapiti had like...a two hundred year family feud and if they end up in the same habitat they fight to the death?
vengefulmuffins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:24:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It was more like she thought elks/wapiti were female moose. Then thought we were lying to her when we said that they were different species. This all started when I went to a elk reserve and took pictures and showed them at work. She started by saying that the reserve wouldn't last long because there were no males in my pictures.
VaneFreja ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:15:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Could you please tell me? I'm not native in English, in Danish they are both called "elg"....
Glass_Spires ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:47 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Elk look more like deer, while moose are much larger.
A better explanation is here: http://k99.com/moose-or-elk-how-to-tell-the-difference/.
Pics here: https://www.google.com/search?q=moose+vs+elk&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1r8eVqrbRAhVmiVQKHTK1AksQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=659#imgrc=u0z_FlQNfphvzM%3A.
VaneFreja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:43:16 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for clarifying!
vengefulmuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Moose: https://i.imgur.com/LqeuLhb.jpg Elk: https://imgur.com/gallery/DN84gVn
Basically the difference is about 300-400lbs, and moose are about twice the size of elk.
VaneFreja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks a lot, I definitely see that they are nowhere near the same thing.
powerpi314 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:16:55 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I had a patient who walked into my office with his hand hanging by a single tissue, and in his attached hand was a succulent plant. He was swinging his hand around talking about holistic ways to rebuild flesh and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Thanks for listening.
diggexpat ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:16:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: The Chinese don't know shit about biology.
shyhalu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They have an excuse, most of the people in the U.S. don't.
Shabata ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:33:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Every time a Jehovah's Witness shows up.. it's like trick or trick..
Rebelpride1 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:38:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate flushed tampons into our shitty septic tank in our rental house for 3 months. When the bathroom flooded with shit water, I was glad her bathroom was the one down stairs.
Stoic_Bear923 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 11:19:45 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Shine on you crazy diamond!
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 00:19:41 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Madmantwentyone ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:51:04 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Did...did you read the question? At all?
dasfilth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I seem to have missed the "doctors" part.
MaxRockwilder ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:10:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the uncomfortable,weight-loss conversation, that I had with your mother.
heyitsbobandy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"Give it a couple pumps next time and see what happens...I think you'll be pleasantly surprised"
Idontstandout ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:06:58 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
And now we have horses involved.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:42 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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thingsthatbreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not the question.
CreatrixAnima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The question didn't specify medical issues.... only that those answering be doctors.
DocCrooks1050 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
We can change this to "Corpsman of Reddit" and the answer would be "everything".
rjm1775 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:15 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Doc, we weren't all that stupid! Well, then again....
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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oz_moses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:34 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck it- play one IRL anyway!
stephaw26 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Telling my mom she has too many dogs and to quit adopting them.
Atrainlan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:19:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
No such thing as too many dogs. I can't believe I have to say this to an adult.
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Until you get to hording critters. They die and get forgotten about while your carpet becomes a mat of pee and poo. Ask me how I know.
nightfrost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know
Corey307 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:48:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hospital sent us for a patient complaining of weakness, the smell and filth was appalling. Got the patient to the hospital for treatment and I can only hope a psychiatric evaluation, I reported the state of her home to social workers. Can only hope she got help.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:57 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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andrewia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:50 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I dearly hope this is sarcastic. (If you're serious for the first half of your comment, the stories are anonymized so there's no information at risk of being linked back to a person.)
Edit: Aww, they deleted their first two comments they ever made. Too bad, I typed up a decent reply too explaining anonymity vs. confidentiality.
winchesterbros ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Those are some pretty interesting points actually. I can understand why it might make one question their reality. Still crazy though haha
ryulaaswife ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:09 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't see it being bad for them either way, but good to know!
BasedLime ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 00:40:37 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors of Reddi- NURSE HERE
whotaketh ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:55:08 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What, we don't have to explain the same things to our patients?
malonkey1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:28 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously. Nurses can't possibly be knowledgeable about medical stuff, they don't have the white coat or the "Dr." in front of their name. What could they possibly know that google doesn't?/s
whotaketh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
WebMD is the devil's work.
sandalwoodhero ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 00:29:31 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
One time at my methadone clinic... oh wait... HIPAAAAAAAAAAAA
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:59 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
When it is general, non-identifying infornation, it is fine. Think case studies, or examples that professor give students.
casualcollapse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:52 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes?
handsomegeek ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 07:38:49 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Had to explain to a co-worker that Quarterly commission's come every 3 months I wasn't nice about it I don't think he likes me anymore.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 13:09:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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ihateflyingthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:21 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
The narwhal has baconed.
-Master-Builder- ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: "Not a doctor but..."
toad_mountain ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:54 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
While we were laying beneath the stars in a field during a meteor shower, a girl asked me if the moon was a star... She went to a private Uber Catholic high school, but still.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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fourthwyrdsister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
What's the treat? More coke?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Anything like burgers, pizza or so...
bunnicula_darklady ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 13:52:25 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
You, are likely, onto something. I should have specified which cancer. I wonder if genetics could tell each smoker the best means of kicking the habit
Hkatsupreme ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 00:26:05 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fuck I hope none of you are my doctors. Not to be an asshole but you all sound like assholes!
Down vote me all you want but you can't escape your own demeanor!
malonkey1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
It seems that everyone goes into medicine as JD, and comes out as Cox or worse.
forevergallifralone ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:40:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Or they're just smarter than you and you can't comprehend that.
Hkatsupreme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:24 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'm only in high school buddy. But I also know i want a doctor who can put up with my stupid questions without making me feel insecure and I don't need circlejerking to discourage that opinion.
forevergallifralone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:25 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a freshman, bud.
Keyboard_Mouseketeer ยท -40 points ยท Posted at 23:59:46 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Explaining to someone why they shouldnt vote democrat.
malonkey1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:53 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Not, as I understand it, a medical issue. I'm not a doctor, though, so maybe there's some unknown risk I'm not aware of.
Keyboard_Mouseketeer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:02 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
TheDude1451 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:11 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, this must have been your car I saw a few weeks ago.
http://i.imgur.com/r57KnTC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iSwBQ9H.jpg
homebrewneuralyzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:51 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to your very own downvote apocalypse.
Keyboard_Mouseketeer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:07 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I wear downvotes like a badge of honor in liberal ran default subs.
Mad_Mab ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 09:22:39 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I know how ill be spending my weekend. Thanks
Drakeytown ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:25:18 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A friend in college had a roommate ask her to peel a banana for her. :/
EpilepticBabies ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:12 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"โข
TropicalPriest ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:05:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'll get the teeth grinding and my muscles feel weird, but it doesnt really keep me awake or make me superbly happy either, not more than a few shots of espresso would.
liffey2009 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:03 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Yes thank god. The woman ended up going with Julie.
Maxwell_Benson ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:36:27 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
"here is why we have the electoral college mom..."
pragya394 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:25:00 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Santa isn't real
KCL40mVal ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 23:12:51 on January 9, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, it's real. probably spelled it wrong though.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 00:29:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
'humans and dinosaurs lived together, right?'
Mad_Mab ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 08:30:01 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Appreciate it. Thanks
CaptnNMorgan ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 08:37:38 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
That it's bigger on the inside
just_hating ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 11:50:46 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I am not a doctor. I am a trainer for a big online retailer. There are conversations I have daily with people that surprisingly drove themselves to work.
aleatorya ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 09:58:33 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
A quarter of an hour is un fact 15 minutes !
Ross8070 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 10:35:48 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not a doctor but I used to run pubs and I have to tell at least two people a year to go home and bath as they were making the building stink!
[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 09:59:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
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Pinky135 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:45:10 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Copied from one of the best karma'd comments and replaced a few words...
csoup1414 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:23 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Really the other comment was the only one that made me literally lol
GooseVersusRobot ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 01:58:43 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Dis guy said I want to poopy poopy but he no no how
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 10:53:22 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't this asked less than a week ago?
Bluzub ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 05:51:21 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Doctors should not make fun of their patients, Unless it's harmless banter with a colleague- which the lay person wouldn't understand. Doctors who reply to these posts with their "crazy" stories come across as jaded and belittle the profession. BTW when the OP specifically asks "Doctors of Reddit", why do nurses, emt's, medical students, and other non-physicians seem so inclined to reply?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:08:29 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Damn dude why even post this comment?
Falvonator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:32:13 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he's gotten too much praise lately. Craving some negative attention. Here you go, have another down vote.
poo0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:40 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
They must have hit the roof when they read the firefighter's story!!
Falvonator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:20 on January 10, 2017 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I'm in IT. I had to explain to someone that turning on a monitor, doesn't turn the computer on. This person was about 40!